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| [00:49:55] | wagnerrp: | oof! |
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| [00:50:29] | wagnerrp: | ive been struggling through some error that should not be possible for the last three hours |
| [00:50:39] | wagnerrp: | turns out its due to lack of braces around an if statement |
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| [01:15:11] | iamlindoro: | D'oh |
| [01:17:20] | wagnerrp: | well its still not working |
| [01:17:29] | wagnerrp: | but at least its not working in a manner that at least somewhat makes sense |
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| [01:33:29] | brockp: | I just setup a new 0.24-fixes install using the ubuntu packages, I installed mythvideo and the metadata for many of hte titles were filled in but many are blank, WHen I try to do 'manually add movie #' using imdb or themoviedb.org numbers, nothing happens |
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| [01:34:52] | wagnerrp: | what number do you give it? |
| [01:35:07] | brockp: | 10035 |
| [01:35:15] | brockp: | WHich should be 100 girls, |
| [01:37:58] | iamlindoro: | logs will say it all |
| [01:38:30] | brockp: | yeah just looked in console, sorry: [brockp@macfu ~]$ /Applications/MythFrontend.app/Contents/Resources/share/mythtv/metadata/Movie/tm db.py -l en -D 10035 |
| [01:38:31] | brockp: | The subdirectory "tmdb" containing the modules tmdb_api.py (v0.1.3 or greater), tmdb_ui.py, |
| [01:38:31] | brockp: | tmdb_exceptions.py must have been installed with the MythTV python bindings. |
| [01:38:31] | brockp: | Error:(No module named MythTV.tmdb.tmdb_api) |
| [01:38:40] | brockp: | sry, should have used pastebin |
| [01:38:49] | iamlindoro: | So your bindings are broken, or you have an old copy of the scripts installed |
| [01:39:15] | wagnerrp: | which is even stranger that some would work |
| [01:39:16] | iamlindoro: | or you're on 11.04 and not using the right python-mysqldb version |
| [01:39:23] | iamlindoro: | The "some" are TV shows |
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| [01:39:50] | wagnerrp: | but if tv worked, so should movies |
| [01:39:51] | brockp: | Well the backend is running on ubuntu, the front end I am using rightnow is on a mac, maybe a conflict |
| [01:40:04] | brockp: | No some movies worked, like 28 weeks later worked |
| [01:40:06] | iamlindoro: | brockp: in .24, what is on the backend is meaningless |
| [01:40:19] | iamlindoro: | and the bindings do not work on Mac OS TTBOMK |
| [01:40:21] | wagnerrp: | have any worked on the machine you are currently on? |
| [01:40:29] | brockp: | nope, |
| [01:40:42] | wagnerrp: | then yeah... limitation of OSX |
| [01:40:53] | brockp: | Ok So I just ran tmdb.py on the ubuntu machine and it printed out some xml, |
| [01:40:57] | iamlindoro: | You should do your lookups from the Ubuntu machine |
| [01:41:02] | iamlindoro: | yes, as it should |
| [01:41:11] | iamlindoro: | You'll need to do your metadata management there |
| [01:41:27] | brockp: | coolio I thought I had already tried there, but being a dumb one, I think I used imdb numbers, (old myth user coming back) |
| [01:41:38] | wagnerrp: | so just use the ubuntu backend for that task, or install linux on the apple machine, or submit patches to the osx packaging |
| [01:41:46] | wagnerrp: | imdb numbers should work fine |
| [01:41:56] | wagnerrp: | as long as someone has specified those numbers on themoviedb.org |
| [01:42:01] | brockp: | If its python I might be able to fix the osx issues, more later |
| [01:42:46] | wagnerrp: | the two metadata scripts currently shipped with mythtv are both python, and they both rely on code built into the python bindings |
| [01:43:01] | brockp: | ohh that might cause issues, |
| [01:43:15] | iamlindoro: | Though supporting the bindings on OS X would of course be welcome, so feel free to make them work there ;) |
| [01:43:44] | iamlindoro: | (though that's more a limitation of the build script/limitation of python pacakges available on OS X, IIRC) |
| [01:44:01] | wagnerrp: | i would... but i have no osx machine to actually test on, nor any knowledge of OSX package formatting |
| [01:44:39] | iamlindoro: | Actually have a HDHR Prime coming, possibly next week, going to play with a OS X only system for fun |
| [01:45:31] | iamlindoro: | With 3 tuners I was thinking to devote two to my production Linux backend, and use one on a distinct OS X setup |
| [01:45:37] | wagnerrp: | OSX master backend? |
| [01:46:00] | iamlindoro: | yeah, just for fun |
| [01:46:29] | wagnerrp: | did you see the commentary in the dev channel last night about executable names? |
| [01:46:41] | iamlindoro: | I didn't\ |
| [01:47:05] | wagnerrp: | certain things like grabbing a lineup from SD use hard coded executable names |
| [01:47:15] | wagnerrp: | meaning they dont know to run MythFillDatabase |
| [01:47:45] | iamlindoro: | yeah, we have a number of such cases elsewhere in the code where we use ifdefs |
| [01:47:49] | iamlindoro: | I saw the ticket |
| [01:47:54] | iamlindoro: | didn't seem like this was any different than the others |
| [01:48:11] | iamlindoro: | that said, we shouldn't be building camelcase binaries on OS X, that's stupid |
| [01:48:35] | iamlindoro: | If one wants to be nonstandard, at least add spaces |
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| [01:49:55] | wagnerrp: | there it is |
| [01:50:05] | wagnerrp: | i hate programming sometimes |
| [01:50:16] | wagnerrp: | an hour spent writing hundreds of lines of code |
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| [01:50:31] | wagnerrp: | and then several more hours spent tracing down that single character that makes it all broken |
| [01:51:11] | wagnerrp: | a missed ! in an if statement |
| [01:51:38] | iamlindoro: | on that note, is there a way to force the logging stuff to output the logging as the code gets to it? I have added tons of logging when working through issues and had crashes happen *after* log lines, but the logging hasn't gone to the console by then |
| [01:51:57] | iamlindoro: | making the logging useless for debugging |
| [01:52:26] | wagnerrp: | hehe |
| [01:52:39] | wagnerrp: | probably wasnt considered when writing it |
| [01:52:46] | iamlindoro: | ie, I add LOG(blah) code(); LOG(foo); code2(); LOG(bar); code3(); |
| [01:52:53] | iamlindoro: | crash happens in code3() |
| [01:52:57] | iamlindoro: | but no logging is output |
| [01:53:46] | wagnerrp: | of the logging code ... |
| [01:54:00] | wagnerrp: | I KNOW NOTHING! |
| [01:54:06] | iamlindoro: | noted |
| [01:54:12] | iamlindoro: | Beirdo: ^^ If you get a chance |
| [01:54:23] | wagnerrp: | </schultz> |
| [01:55:16] | wagnerrp: | hmm... does tvland still play old hogans heroes reruns? |
| [01:55:42] | [R]: | i know universal hd does |
| [01:56:13] | wagnerrp: | looks like my local NBC... weather channel? does |
| [01:56:21] | [R]: | lol |
| [01:56:28] | wagnerrp: | go figure... |
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| [02:59:01] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: the reason we couldnt switch to mkv for recordings is because it didnt support mjpeg or rtjpeg, right? |
| [03:01:53] | iamlindoro: | I don't think that's ever been the reason |
| [03:02:17] | iamlindoro: | since MJPEG/RTJEG could easily be replaced with XViD/H.264/etc. |
| [03:02:33] | wagnerrp: | right, thats what i was going to follow up with |
| [03:03:15] | iamlindoro: | The real reason is IMO just that there's a ton of code that few of us understand for setting up the container properties and codec options, and NuppelVideoRecorder is a gnarly mess |
| [03:03:52] | iamlindoro: | But maybe if we all beg Captain_Murdoch to revive his AVFormatRecorder patch which allowed for user selectable container and codec, and restrict it to a few sane, widely used options for each... |
| [03:04:28] | iamlindoro: | There's a ton of MKV container stuff that I've always been eager to use in Myth, like adding chapters at cutpoints when transcoding, etc. |
| [03:05:55] | iamlindoro: | There were also those that thought MKV couldn't stream, but they were mistaken, MKV supports streaming |
| [03:06:23] | Captain_Murdoch: | so in wagnerrp's comment above, s/recording/transcoding/ ?? |
| [03:06:24] | wagnerrp: | im somewhat mixed about that |
| [03:06:47] | wagnerrp: | i guess it would be nice for portability |
| [03:06:57] | wagnerrp: | but i still think stuff like chapters should be stored in the markup tables |
| [03:07:00] | iamlindoro: | Captain_Murdoch: Well, would be nice to record straight in to MKV |
| [03:07:07] | iamlindoro: | (for framegrabbers, anyway) |
| [03:07:15] | Captain_Murdoch: | who uses those? :) |
| [03:07:20] | Captain_Murdoch: | besides bruce |
| [03:07:21] | ** iamlindoro raises his hand ** | |
| [03:07:26] | iamlindoro: | oh, framegrabbers |
| [03:07:28] | iamlindoro: | not me |
| [03:07:39] | wagnerrp: | Captain_Murdoch: i know when jya was looking into it a couple months back, one of the options was just to switch to mkv rather than try to fix nuv |
| [03:07:42] | iamlindoro: | but that said, more cards are framegrabbers now than were five years ago |
| [03:07:50] | wagnerrp: | i was trying to remember the reasons why we couldnt |
| [03:08:08] | wagnerrp: | i thought i remembered something about mjpeg/rtjpeg support |
| [03:08:18] | iamlindoro: | since five years ago it was easy to get one of a half dozen good hardware encoders, and now hardware encoders are rare, or on cards that are undesirable for other reasons |
| [03:08:55] | wagnerrp: | of course now, there is less reason to use framegrabbers or SD hardware encoders anyway |
| [03:09:12] | wagnerrp: | most people are going to HDPVRs for analog capture |
| [03:09:24] | iamlindoro: | I suppose that's true, but to the average user, us telling them that they shouldn't use the card whose box says "record from your cable box" just leaves us holding tha bag |
| [03:09:25] | Captain_Murdoch: | I don't think anyone cares about mjpeg/rtjpeg support. if someone doesn't have a fast enough cpu to encode to mpeg2 or 4 in realtime they should buy a hardware encoder. |
| [03:09:43] | wagnerrp: | s/buy a hardware encoder/buy a new CPU/ |
| [03:09:50] | iamlindoro: | I don't want to use a framegrabber, but it's difficult to escape the fact that they're out there, and if we're going to support them, it would be nice to use modern containers and codecs |
| [03:10:20] | iamlindoro: | (and that explaining why a framegrabber is bad to a use who has already bought one only makes them angry at us-- it "works just fine in windows") |
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| [03:11:25] | Captain_Murdoch: | my main reason for the initial patch was transcoding, but recording to a libavformat container just came along with it. |
| [03:12:06] | iamlindoro: | I wouldn't object to either :) |
| [03:12:32] | iamlindoro: | I actually have often thought about a universal (within myth) transcode/record XML format |
| [03:12:55] | iamlindoro: | so that you could trade XML profile files with the users list-- "here's a good profile for recording and streaming to the PS3/ipad/whatever" |
| [03:13:17] | Guyverix: | That would be pretty slick! |
| [03:13:18] | wagnerrp: | doesnt nuvexport already have something like that? |
| [03:13:22] | wagnerrp: | how does it handle profiles? |
| [03:13:33] | iamlindoro: | Don't think nuvexport has anything like that |
| [03:14:18] | Captain_Murdoch: | iamlindoro, with container/codec support, that's just a matter of allowing import/export of recording profiles. |
| [03:14:25] | iamlindoro: | anyway, the idea would be transcoding, recording, maybe ultimately uPnP streaming could work from the same profile store, and the user could pick and choose for their needs |
| [03:14:44] | Captain_Murdoch: | then you can create the profile chooser and downloader. :) |
| [03:14:59] | iamlindoro: | Captain_Murdoch: or maybe just skip the import and always parse from a known dir/SG/whatever for user simplicity |
| [03:15:32] | iamlindoro: | Captain_Murdoch: Heh, yeah, you joke but it would be cool :) |
| [03:15:45] | Captain_Murdoch: | need to import for backing up, etc.. |
| [03:16:14] | Captain_Murdoch: | could read real-time but import automatically on use |
| [03:16:14] | wagnerrp: | Captain_Murdoch: re: commandlineparser stuff, ive rewritten it with a single shared class for storing information about input arguments |
| [03:16:17] | iamlindoro: | I suppose-- maybe just do the import first time it is seen automatically |
| [03:16:21] | iamlindoro: | heh, yeah, exactly |
| [03:16:33] | wagnerrp: | from here, it should be a lot easier to tag something as part of a group, or as a dependent |
| [03:16:40] | wagnerrp: | and print/fail accordingly |
| [03:16:49] | Captain_Murdoch: | wagnerrp, nice. |
| [03:19:40] | [R]: | blah, i hate math |
| [03:19:45] | [R]: | why is it so crappy |
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| [04:04:34] | deschmit: | Anyone use mirobridge? I'm trying to get it working but I'm getting this error. |
| [04:04:35] | deschmit: | ~$ /usr/share/doc/mythtv-backend/contrib/imports/mirobridge/mirobridge.py -t |
| [04:04:35] | deschmit: | 2011-08–12 22:59:48,852 – mirobridge – INFO – Using python library 'pyparsing' version 1.5.2 |
| [04:04:35] | deschmit: | 2011-08–12 22:59:49,190 – mirobridge – CRITICAL – Importing Miro functions has an issue. Miro must be installed and functional, error('NoneType' object has no attribute 'get') |
| [04:05:03] | wagnerrp: | sounds like you dont have Miro installed |
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| [04:06:58] | deschmit: | ~$ dpkg-query -l|grep miro |
| [04:06:58] | deschmit: | ii miro 4.0.3–1ubuntu1~pcf1~natty GTK+ based media player |
| [04:06:58] | deschmit: | ii miro-data 4.0.3–1ubuntu1~pcf1~natty GTK+ based media player |
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| [04:09:06] | deschmit: | not sure if the problem is with miro or the mirobrige.py script |
| [04:20:59] | iamlindoro: | Rather, it sounds like you should read the docs |
| [04:21:00] | iamlindoro: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MiroBridge#This_st . . . _not_work.21 |
| [04:21:55] | iamlindoro: | actually, might not be the documented error, since that pertains to lower rather than get |
| [04:22:03] | iamlindoro: | so I defer to wagnerrp since he's the python expert |
| [04:25:26] | deschmit: | yeah, I was looking at the "lower" error link yesterday. It didn't seem to be the same. |
| [04:27:30] | iamlindoro: | Although |
| [04:27:56] | iamlindoro: | 4.0.2 is the latest the author has tested |
| [04:28:18] | wagnerrp: | assuming youre running an up-to-date mythtv build |
| [04:28:37] | iamlindoro: | So 4.0.3 may have introduced a problem, and yeah, to support 4.0.2 you need absolute latest fixes |
| [04:28:57] | iamlindoro: | since IIRC Doug's fixes for the new Ubuntu only went in in the last month or so |
| [04:29:22] | iamlindoro: | since you seem to be on Ubuntu, that means you need to have the mythbuntu fixes repository enabled, and be up to date with it |
| [04:29:33] | deschmit: | ii mythtv 2:0.24.0+fixes.20110425.56c54fa-0ubuntu0mythbuntu2 |
| [04:30:25] | iamlindoro: | That would be april |
| [04:30:32] | deschmit: | 4.0.3 for miro just came out today I think. I had 4.0.2 yesterday and had the same error |
| [04:30:42] | iamlindoro: | Again, you are on ancient .24-fixesx |
| [04:30:50] | iamlindoro: | you need current .24-fixes to have support for Miro 4 |
| [04:31:15] | deschmit: | cool. thanks |
| [04:31:37] | iamlindoro: | Support for Miro 4.0.2 went in on July 9 |
| [04:31:58] | iamlindoro: | http://www.mythbuntu.org/repos |
| [04:32:04] | iamlindoro: | install, update, upgrade |
| [04:32:25] | deschmit: | will do. thanks again! |
| [04:32:27] | iamlindoro: | np |
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| [04:58:28] | Quan-Time: | mythTV doesnt seem to allow my mouse (bluetooth track pad, logitech Dinovo Mini), and it doesnt go full screen.. ubuntu 10.04 x64, latest mythTV.. cant work it out for the life of me. read what i can on issues, im obviously doing something wrong.. ideas please ? |
| [04:58:57] | Quan-Time: | i can use my arrow keys and what not, but not mouse / track pad |
| [04:59:05] | [R]: | you dont use a mouse in myth |
| [04:59:08] | wagnerrp: | the mouse works, however the mouse cursor is hidden by default |
| [04:59:16] | wagnerrp: | you can enable it in the appearance settings |
| [04:59:30] | wagnerrp: | mythtv is not full screen because compiz is preventing it |
| [04:59:36] | iamlindoro: | That said, even with the cursor enabled, only some of myth allows its use |
| [04:59:57] | iamlindoro: | you can scroll, you can select *some* things, cannot select others-- generally speaking, a mouse is no use with Myth |
| [05:00:52] | wagnerrp: | unless, of course, someone were to donate a nice touchscreen pc to one of a handful of devs |
| [05:01:09] | wagnerrp: | then i would bet mouse support would get pretty full featured pretty quickly |
| [05:01:11] | wagnerrp: | :) |
| [05:01:38] | iamlindoro: | That said, one dev already has Myth running on a touchscreen device |
| [05:01:47] | iamlindoro: | a trendy one |
| [05:04:02] | wagnerrp: | do you know if he actually has it running on one? |
| [05:04:08] | wagnerrp: | or just that simulator? |
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| [06:35:14] | Beirdo: | wagnerrp: yes, I think that was the initial reason |
| [06:35:36] | Beirdo: | in particular, MJPEG (which comes from hardware encoders) woulda been an issue |
| [06:35:58] | wagnerrp: | ancient hardware encoders? |
| [06:35:59] | Beirdo: | but I'm sure a) we can find a way around that and b) almost none are still in use |
| [06:36:02] | Beirdo: | yes |
| [06:36:13] | Beirdo: | Matrox made some way back |
| [06:37:01] | Beirdo: | actually, we could just announce that MJPEG support would be dropped for 0.25, and rip it out, and I'm sure we won't hear a peep. |
| [06:37:29] | Beirdo: | Just got home from the Boston/Seattle game, BTW |
| [06:37:37] | Beirdo: | as expected, Boston won |
| [06:38:07] | Beirdo: | but the company paid for it. so... |
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| [06:39:00] | wagnerrp: | they must not win the rest of the series |
| [06:39:04] | wagnerrp: | you know what you have to do |
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| [06:39:12] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [06:39:12] | wagnerrp: | their red socks are the source of all their power |
| [06:39:18] | wagnerrp: | ready the bleach! |
| [06:39:30] | Beirdo: | turn em into Chicago? |
| [06:39:35] | Beirdo: | that would just be cruel |
| [06:39:59] | Beirdo: | but at least they wouldn't be the Cubs :) |
| [06:41:00] | wagnerrp: | da cubs |
| [06:41:37] | wagnerrp: | who would win in a game between the chicago cubs, and mike ditka? |
| [06:41:56] | Beirdo: | heh. And who would know? |
| [06:42:35] | wagnerrp: | dont tell me you never saw that |
| [06:42:44] | Beirdo: | nope |
| [06:43:23] | Beirdo: | so, my new frontend box is still at work |
| [06:43:31] | Beirdo: | gonna bring it home on Sunday |
| [06:43:53] | ** Beirdo looks at his old one in disgust ** | |
| [06:44:25] | laga: | nice! |
| [06:44:44] | laga: | my new TV should be arriving next week. yay. |
| [06:44:46] | Beirdo: | I'll be reusing the video card |
| [06:45:05] | Beirdo: | assuming I can find the full-size backplate, which shouldn't be too hard |
| [06:45:25] | Beirdo: | and the system drives... I gues |
| [06:45:29] | laga: | who needs back plates? |
| [06:45:49] | Beirdo: | I don't need the second SATA card, I don't think, the new box has 4 ports |
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| [06:49:17] | wagnerrp: | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IYkb5KZzzs#t=4m11s |
| [06:49:26] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: ^^^ |
| [06:50:59] | Beirdo: | OMG, old SNL, I'd forgotten all about those skits |
| [06:51:32] | wagnerrp: | old SNL? its not that old |
| [06:51:36] | wagnerrp: | its only mid 90's |
| [06:51:41] | wagnerrp: | they went off the air in like 2002 |
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| [06:52:20] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [06:52:59] | Quan-Time: | wagnerrp: can i make mythTV full screen, like, how is compiz stopping it ? or is this the way it always is.. |
| [06:53:13] | wagnerrp: | disable compiz |
| [06:53:16] | Quan-Time: | me-tv works much better for a "simple" solution.. BUT the decoding SUX... |
| [06:53:17] | Quan-Time: | oh ok. |
| [06:53:23] | Quan-Time: | is that in the menu options or somethin ? |
| [06:53:31] | wagnerrp: | or apparently theres some form of 'compatibility' mode for compiz somewhere in its options |
| [06:54:04] | wagnerrp: | the issue is that mythtv simply doesnt have access to the full screen |
| [06:54:20] | wagnerrp: | because compiz has set it up with a virtual display into which it is trying to render |
| [06:54:22] | Beirdo: | I remember the old ones with John Goodman and Dan Ackroyd, etc. |
| [06:54:45] | Beirdo: | still 90s I guess |
| [06:54:59] | wagnerrp: | ackroyd was 70s and early 80s |
| [06:55:09] | wagnerrp: | goodman was 90s |
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| [06:55:16] | wagnerrp: | but he was never a cast member |
| [06:55:21] | wagnerrp: | more a frequent guest |
| [06:55:29] | wagnerrp: | like steve martin |
| [07:02:56] | wagnerrp: | wow, alec baldwin has actually surpassed steve martin |
| [07:07:23] | Beirdo: | in quantity maybe |
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| [08:16:03] | Quan-Time: | how can i access the full channel list / EPG list ? |
| [08:16:19] | Quan-Time: | im obviously a retarded monkey who cant beat his way out of a paper bag, as i just cant find it |
| [08:19:07] | Quan-Time: | also, some channels DONT stretch full screen, they are obviously broadcast with black boarders or something ? its REALLY annoying and wasting space.. there an option for that too ? |
| [08:23:41] | Quan-Time: | ugh M key.. got it |
| [08:23:53] | Quan-Time: | still cant work out this full screen / waste of space boarder thing |
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| [15:38:50] | wagnerrp: | git, i hate you sometimes |
| [15:39:34] | wagnerrp: | no i dont want to commit my merges just to be able to pull |
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| [15:45:14] | wagnerrp: | WTF |
| [15:45:28] | wagnerrp: | the diff is acting as if ive already committed this garbage on my local tree |
| [15:45:37] | wagnerrp: | how the f--- does that work? |
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| [15:57:35] | marsilainen: | wagnerrp: isn't it just that you have things staged? |
| [15:57:51] | marsilainen: | and that the diff is showing the difference between what is staged and not? |
| [15:58:01] | marsilainen: | (just guessing though...) |
| [15:58:07] | marsilainen: | I guess #git can help |
| [15:59:53] | [R]: | everything you screw up in git, a kitten gets killed |
| [15:59:58] | [R]: | THINK OF THE KITTIES! |
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| [16:55:23] | wagnerrp: | marsilainen: yeah, and thats just screwy |
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| [17:08:36] | marsilainen: | wagnerrp: I know what you mean – I feel like the git learning curve is a bit steep... |
| [17:08:49] | marsilainen: | feels quite different from other version control systems |
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| [17:30:24] | brockp: | I have some dvd's I ripped using ripit on my mac, It creates a volder OldCheneFamily.dvdmedia which hold Info.json and VIDEO_TS, which looks like a bit for bit copy of the dvd, how do I get mythvideo to read these rips? |
| [17:30:59] | wagnerrp: | put the VIDEO_TS folder in a directory listed in the Videos storage group in mythtv-setup |
| [17:31:01] | wagnerrp: | and youre done |
| [17:31:58] | brockp: | The extra directory caused issues?, wont this clobber all the other dvd's with the same naming? |
| [17:32:13] | brockp: | It holds VIDEO_TS.VOB, which each rip has one of |
| [17:32:21] | wagnerrp: | you do <root directory>/<movie name>/VIDEO_TS/ |
| [17:34:30] | brockp: | bah turns out it was working all along, when I first installed, 0.24 it gave me a folder with Info.json as an option, now it plays, gah I swear, always how it works once you finnaly ask for help :) |
| [17:34:52] | brockp: | What is your recomdneded rip to vob for linux now that mtd isn't available? |
| [17:35:20] | wagnerrp: | i just pull the full ISO |
| [17:35:44] | brockp: | It will read .iso from a storage group? |
| [17:36:12] | wagnerrp: | unencrypted ones, yes |
| [17:37:16] | brockp: | won't do decss on the fly of them? So using dd if=/dev/dvd of=movie.iso won't work with my monty python collection? |
| [17:37:48] | wagnerrp: | in 0.24, if you use the local folder definitions, you can use encrypted isos |
| [17:38:15] | wagnerrp: | in 0.25 when using storage groups, if the content is mounted locally, mythtv will discover it on the local filesystem, and you can use encrypted isos |
| [17:38:26] | wagnerrp: | however encrypted isos are not currently supported for remote streaming |
| [17:38:51] | brockp: | hmmm maybe I will switch to that, I only have 1 mirror, but then It won't send to a remote frontend, some testing is required, |
| [17:40:13] | brockp: | Ok the video_ts folder that ripit on the mac kicks out appears to decrpyt |
| [17:42:19] | brockp: | wow but the quality is awful on the remote front end on my mac, funky, odd as its a raw vob |
| [17:42:46] | brockp: | Ok thanks for the help, been a few years of no myth and just bringing it back as a dvd manager, (no cable) |
| [17:44:14] | brockp: | BTW to any devs love the new mythui features, |
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| [17:55:08] | EvilGuru: | Hmm, it is amazing how much better the Nova-T 500 responds to bad signal compared to the Nova-T |
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| [18:17:21] | thwg: | can someone point me to a good resource on transcoding? I can't seem to avoid the slow-motion effect. |
| [18:17:33] | wagnerrp: | slow motion effect? |
| [18:18:08] | thwg: | wagnerrp: when I transcode, the new file plays in slow motion |
| [18:18:47] | wagnerrp: | how are you transcoding? |
| [18:19:57] | thwg: | wagnerrp: from the frontend; should I use mytharchive? |
| [18:20:15] | wagnerrp: | mytharchive is for transcoding outside of mythtv, typically to store on DVD |
| [18:20:22] | wagnerrp: | not for transcoding in place |
| [18:20:35] | wagnerrp: | however, unless you are trying to support a specific device that has limited playback support |
| [18:20:39] | wagnerrp: | why are you transcoding? |
| [18:20:59] | thwg: | wagnerrp: to save some storage space & file away in my video collection |
| [18:21:13] | wagnerrp: | hard drives are cheap |
| [18:21:25] | wagnerrp: | transcoding is expensive in both CPU and personal time |
| [18:21:42] | thwg: | heh, ok |
| [18:21:58] | thwg: | is there a way to permanently remove commercials w/o transcoding? |
| [18:22:10] | wagnerrp: | what kind of recording? |
| [18:22:26] | thwg: | HD from OTA |
| [18:22:45] | wagnerrp: | ATSC recordings can be 'losslessly transcoded' |
| [18:23:15] | wagnerrp: | where the video is cut, and the frames between the cuts and nearest i-frame is repaired |
| [18:23:35] | thwg: | ok; can you point me to something that shows me how I should do that? |
| [18:23:42] | wagnerrp: | takes a couple minutes per recording, a couple more to set up the cut poitns |
| [18:23:51] | wagnerrp: | and is usually good for ~30% savings |
| [18:24:01] | thwg: | sounds like what I want... |
| [18:25:20] | wagnerrp: | i dont see a page on the wiki that explicitly documents it |
| [18:25:31] | wagnerrp: | however in the transcoding profiles |
| [18:25:38] | wagnerrp: | there is a checkbox for 'lossless' |
| [18:25:53] | thwg: | ok; thanks – I'll look into th at |
| [18:27:08] | sphery: | thwg: make sure you enable the option to "Save original files after transcoding (globally): If enabled and the transcoder is active, the original files will be renamed to .old once the transcoding is complete." in mythtv-setup and then /after/ verifying that the transcode is good, you can manually delete the .old file. |
| [18:27:34] | sphery: | and also make sure you're on current 0.24-fixes, too |
| [18:28:56] | thwg: | sphery: understood; thanks for the heads-up |
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| [20:46:01] | ** EvilGuru had forgotten just how crap indoor atenna are ** | |
| [20:46:24] | EvilGuru: | 7 floors up, direct line of sight to the transmitter and I can just get 2/6 multiplexes |
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| [20:47:57] | wagnerrp: | how close are you |
| [20:48:02] | EvilGuru: | 8km |
| [20:48:07] | wagnerrp: | nevermind |
| [20:48:21] | wagnerrp: | i was going do say if you were right underneath it, there is often a transmission shadow |
| [20:48:38] | wagnerrp: | could be multipath issues |
| [20:48:49] | wagnerrp: | although DVB-T is supposed to be better at handling that than ATSC |
| [20:49:18] | EvilGuru: | some pin-head decided to knock out the aerial on the roof, so I had to go out and buy a cheap indoor one |
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| [20:50:44] | EvilGuru: | I do not think the landlord/freehold company will be happy if I popped up a dish |
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| [22:46:30] | marsilainen: | bring on the day when all tv is delivered through the net |
| [22:52:00] | wagnerrp: | EvilGuru: tell them tough cookies, youll take it down when they fix the roof aerial |
| [22:55:37] | EvilGuru: | marsilainen: Not for a long time, I hope. My b/w cap is 100g a month. Watching news on MythTV will do 15g a day, easy. |
| [22:56:50] | wagnerrp: | presumably IPTV would be delivered by your ISP, and only traverse their network, not the internet |
| [22:56:57] | wagnerrp: | meaning it wouldn't count against your bandwidth cap |
| [22:57:13] | EvilGuru: | It would still cost the ISP a fair amount, at least here in the UK |
| [22:57:34] | wagnerrp: | honestly, any sane IPTV system would be using multicast, meaning you and 100 of your friends could all be watching the same thing with no increase in bandwidth |
| [22:57:38] | EvilGuru: | As all of the infrastructure is owned by BT who charge the ISPs quite a lot for hauling data |
| [22:59:22] | wagnerrp: | apple has filed patents for a system to allow for driverless printer access |
| [22:59:37] | wagnerrp: | silly me, i thought unix had such a system built into it in the 80s |
| [23:00:12] | wagnerrp: | and that USB had a basic printer profile that allowed for similar universal access |
| [23:00:17] | EvilGuru: | The sad thing is that the patents will probably be granted |
| [23:00:21] | wagnerrp: | you only needed drivers if you wanted fancy functionality |
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| [23:05:42] | EvilGuru: | Plug and play printer support is what converted my mother to Linux (way back in 06) when I plugged a printer in and had it just work(tm) |
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