| Sunday, July 24th, 2011, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:48] | Beirdo: | silly yank. |
| [00:00:54] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [00:01:01] | wagnerrp: | your forum is stupid, nothing makes sense, your program is stupid |
| [00:01:06] | wagnerrp: | well then why the f--- are you here? |
| [00:01:25] | Beirdo: | because he's stupid. |
| [00:01:42] | justinh: | beating folks is all well & good but where do you stop? I mean how do you decide they've had enough? |
| [00:01:59] | wagnerrp: | stop? |
| [00:02:02] | justinh: | lol |
| [00:02:11] | Beirdo: | they've had enough when the cops haul you off them |
| [00:02:22] | justinh: | well I suppose you could stop.. if you were sure the beating had made them sterile |
| [00:03:10] | Beirdo: | justinh: You a Manchester United fan, BTW? |
| [00:03:20] | justinh: | hmm time to stop the handbrake job on the backend. 15fps indeed |
| [00:03:28] | wagnerrp: | liverpool! liverpool! |
| [00:03:31] | justinh: | Beirdo: nope. I don't believe in THEFOOTBALL |
| [00:03:33] | Beirdo: | they absolutely smoked Seattle's MLS team the other day |
| [00:03:36] | Beirdo: | 7–0 |
| [00:04:05] | Beirdo: | didn't expect Seattle to win, but that was a bit much of a pummeling :) |
| [00:04:06] | justinh: | Beirdo: I don't know much about THEFOOTBALL but I know this.. it was probably bows & arrows against lightning |
| [00:04:27] | justinh: | the USA is erm.. a bit new to the game |
| [00:04:29] | Beirdo: | hehe, kinda felt like it |
| [00:04:44] | Beirdo: | well, MLS teams are mostly not US players though |
| [00:05:08] | Beirdo: | just like the teams over there, ya hire from whereever peole are good (and not already taken) |
| [00:05:18] | justinh: | it'd be like me saying I was surprised about the trouncing the Manchester Warriors Football team took against a *real* American football team ;) |
| [00:05:33] | Beirdo: | but still, MLS is a different class of soccer than premiership... |
| [00:05:40] | justinh: | (or whatever the local USA football team is called here) |
| [00:05:49] | justinh: | Beirdo: less coke & hookers? |
| [00:06:05] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [00:06:46] | justinh: | do you get this over there – people who live in different parts of the country supporting a team from way away? |
| [00:07:12] | justinh: | I can't understand that at all. Local teams you go & see every week – sure |
| [00:07:32] | iamlindoro: | yes, quite common here |
| [00:08:00] | justinh: | undertandable where it's somebody who used to live there or something I suppose |
| [00:08:22] | iamlindoro: | there's lots of reasons why, though-- I went to school across the country and went to tons of baseball games in Boston... lots of happy memories with friends going to games there, so the sentimental side of me has a soft spot for them |
| [00:08:26] | justinh: | when I was at school there were kids who changed allegiances to whoever was looking good for top of the table |
| [00:08:26] | Beirdo: | especially common with the New York Yankees |
| [00:08:33] | wagnerrp: | justinh: my last apartment was about two blocks from a bar that filled up with Pittsburgh fans whenever they played |
| [00:08:38] | wagnerrp: | thats a good 10hr drive from here |
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| [00:08:42] | justinh: | wow |
| [00:08:57] | Beirdo: | I have a coworker who wears a Boston Bruins jersey... |
| [00:09:07] | justinh: | and the money people spend.. sheesh. People over here sold cars & houses to see the world cup of soccer thing |
| [00:09:16] | Beirdo: | but he's been a fan for most of his life |
| [00:10:12] | wagnerrp: | its generally only common to see such things over here if they grew up there, or spent several years there, or had a parent that was being into that team |
| [00:10:18] | wagnerrp: | its rarely arbitrary |
| [00:10:22] | Beirdo: | yeah |
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| [00:10:29] | justinh: | seems pretty arbitrary here |
| [00:10:37] | wagnerrp: | s/being/big/ |
| [00:10:51] | wagnerrp: | so this has to take the cake for worst attempt to upgrade mythtv |
| [00:11:14] | wagnerrp: | "error: the symbol 'grub_xputs' not found\ngrub rescue>" |
| [00:11:27] | justinh: | I had a girlfriend whose mother was a big Manchester supporter. She had a fanzine in the smallest room in the house & I had occasion to read it once. the letters page was full of people from argentina, s. africa.. everywhere but the UK LOL |
| [00:11:53] | justinh: | wagnerrp: typo? they meant to type mythtv-setup but managed to walk into fdisk & trash the HDD? |
| [00:12:02] | iamlindoro: | sigh, I had this whole day available to work on Myth, and I've accomplished... nothing |
| [00:12:15] | justinh: | iamlindoro: try having a kid. oh boy |
| [00:12:19] | wagnerrp: | is manchester similar to the yankees? |
| [00:12:22] | Beirdo: | justinh: well, that's where the players are from :) |
| [00:12:32] | wagnerrp: | they pour huge amounts of money into the team |
| [00:12:33] | justinh: | I had this whole day available to do everything I planned ;) |
| [00:12:36] | wagnerrp: | so they always have a good team |
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| [00:12:44] | Beirdo: | wagnerrp: I would say that would be a fair comparison, yes. |
| [00:12:51] | wagnerrp: | so they have fans all over the place because people are shallow and want to root for the winning team |
| [00:13:03] | iamlindoro: | justinh: It's not even lack of time, it's not being able to conjure up a task I'm interested in working on |
| [00:13:18] | justinh: | iamlindoro: ah. for me it's more brain rot |
| [00:13:29] | justinh: | I get free time nowadays all I wanna do is curl up on the couch |
| [00:13:36] | Beirdo: | wagnerrp: and have people all over who hate them too |
| [00:13:38] | iamlindoro: | heh |
| [00:14:15] | justinh: | our childminder was on holilday a while back. we took turns taking time off work to look after the little lad... after 2 days I was a shell |
| [00:14:23] | justinh: | that is bloody hard work |
| [00:14:57] | iamlindoro: | indeed |
| [00:15:08] | justinh: | he's on the verge of being able to turn the frontend off now.. little blighter |
| [00:15:25] | wagnerrp: | as long as he cant turn off the backend |
| [00:15:36] | justinh: | give him time ;) |
| [00:15:46] | justinh: | he doesn't even know that cupboard exists yet |
| [00:15:48] | iamlindoro: | that's why god made beatings |
| [00:16:16] | justinh: | lol |
| [00:16:41] | Beirdo: | it's gonna be weird using mythtv without a remote |
| [00:17:04] | wagnerrp: | no beirdo, return that kinect to the store |
| [00:17:10] | Beirdo: | hahah |
| [00:17:12] | wagnerrp: | right now mister! |
| [00:17:17] | Beirdo: | that would require me to move. |
| [00:17:19] | ** wagnerrp pulls out his gun ** | |
| [00:17:28] | Beirdo: | I'd rather use something that uses brainwaves |
| [00:17:45] | Beirdo: | although even those will be lacking some evenings |
| [00:18:06] | Beirdo: | nah, this is just for the devel box, gonna do playback on the 17" LCD monitor |
| [00:18:24] | justinh: | it's nice having a desktop machine again, mind |
| [00:18:30] | justinh: | lovely 22" monitor :) |
| [00:18:34] | Beirdo: | with the lame little computer speakers next to it |
| [00:18:49] | justinh: | also nice to be able to edit my camcorder recordings at last |
| [00:19:00] | Beirdo: | will let me toy around with things without breaking my real setup nearly as much |
| [00:19:10] | justinh: | I don't like W7 though. My next machine is gonna be a Mac |
| [00:19:21] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [00:19:44] | justinh: | then again, it always *is* then I see the price |
| [00:20:18] | Beirdo: | yeah, then the story changes |
| [00:21:02] | justinh: | I need to try OSX for a couple of days before I lay out that kind of money |
| [00:21:14] | justinh: | and the software I'd need to edit etc |
| [00:22:27] | justinh: | wonder if the mac store would be able to help me become a convert ;) |
| [00:23:04] | justinh: | course by the time I ever need a new machine there might be a good linux video editor |
| [00:23:09] | justinh: | who knows! |
| [00:23:13] | Beirdo: | could be |
| [00:23:25] | Beirdo: | and monkeys may fly outta yer butt too. |
| [00:24:12] | justinh: | just for giggles I got a trial of Premiere to try against Sony Vegas on the new pc.. oh boy did it ever suck |
| [00:24:39] | justinh: | vegas just eats uy AVCHD on this box.. premiere erm.. chugged along |
| [00:25:38] | Beirdo: | this office is noticably warmer with 4 PCs running |
| [00:25:40] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [00:25:46] | justinh: | definitely need a better gpu than the onboard one though.. encoding h.264 720p at 5Mbps takes a bit of time |
| [00:25:57] | justinh: | like about 10fps |
| [00:27:48] | Beirdo: | yech |
| [00:28:02] | wagnerrp: | youre encoding DVDs to 5mbps h264? |
| [00:28:08] | wagnerrp: | oh, no... 720p |
| [00:28:12] | justinh: | no, home movies |
| [00:28:24] | justinh: | even then I think I need to turn up the bitrate some |
| [00:28:30] | wagnerrp: | yeah, sounds about right |
| [00:28:55] | justinh: | vegas can use a modernish nvidia gpu for encoding now though they say |
| [00:29:06] | wagnerrp: | last time i tried to recompress my recordings on a core2duo @2.75GHz |
| [00:29:07] | justinh: | so £25 should get me some more fps |
| [00:29:14] | Beirdo: | home movies... good thing you have a kid or I'd be wondering what you're up to :) |
| [00:29:20] | wagnerrp: | 1080i30 to 1080p24@6mbps was around 2.5fps |
| [00:29:30] | wagnerrp: | took like 6hrs for an episode of the big bang theory |
| [00:29:46] | wagnerrp: | bow-chica-wow-wow |
| [00:29:53] | wagnerrp: | 'home movies' |
| [00:30:29] | justinh: | wife.. knock at the door... "oh.. that must be the washing machine repair guy..." |
| [00:30:50] | justinh: | boom chica wow-wow, bow dow dow dowwwwwwwwwww... |
| [00:31:12] | wagnerrp: | holy crap |
| [00:31:22] | wagnerrp: | i heard there was some terrorist shooting in oslo, but 85 dead? |
| [00:31:45] | justinh: | wagnerrp: yeah. and a bombing that left a few dead |
| [00:31:48] | justinh: | massive explosion |
| [00:32:01] | justinh: | same guy was involved in both |
| [00:32:14] | wagnerrp: | yeah, the bombing was 8, or maybe 11... which isnt that odd |
| [00:32:20] | justinh: | neo-nazi, some reports are saying |
| [00:32:27] | wagnerrp: | but usually someone takes you out long before you hit 85 |
| [00:32:48] | justinh: | not when it's on an island with no police in the middle of a big frickin lake |
| [00:33:04] | wagnerrp: | yeah, it said it was at a youth camp |
| [00:36:51] | wagnerrp: | well they dont call it a 'killing field' for nothing |
| [00:37:02] | wagnerrp: | stood out in an open field with automatic weapons and a bag of ammo |
| [00:37:12] | wagnerrp: | cant get close enough to do anything about it even if you wanted to |
| [00:37:45] | justinh: | bbc reckon he co-operated with the police right away |
| [00:38:01] | justinh: | I think he's just a nut. you gotta be |
| [00:38:43] | wagnerrp: | apparently he wrote some 1500 page manifesto about freeing europe from the muslims |
| [00:43:10] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [00:43:31] | Beirdo: | you know... it helps when you plug the HDHR3 into the ethernet switch |
| [00:43:36] | Beirdo: | works MUCH better that way |
| [00:43:38] | wagnerrp: | indeed it does |
| [00:44:15] | wagnerrp: | for what purpose would you want to run php in cgi mode when using apache? |
| [00:44:35] | wagnerrp: | i mean if it supports the native interpreter, why not use the native interpreter? |
| [00:44:43] | wagnerrp: | what benefit could there possibly be to using cgi? |
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| [00:45:22] | iamlindoro: | Beirdo: Just like my new employee, who came to me for help when they failed to turn on a UPS and couldn't figure out why it wasn't working |
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| [00:46:06] | sphery: | wagnerrp: what, and be just another sheep with a configuration exactly like everyone else's? |
| [00:46:12] | wagnerrp: | 'is the computer plugged in?' 'i cant tell, its dark' 'well turn the light on' 'i cant, we have a power outage' |
| [00:46:32] | Beirdo: | iamlindoro: hehe, nice |
| [00:46:57] | iamlindoro: | It was a bit of a shock, this employee is pretty sharp generally |
| [00:46:59] | wagnerrp: | sphery: i know php/apache supports such operation, so there has to be some utility to it |
| [00:47:03] | wagnerrp: | i just cant fathom what |
| [00:47:10] | iamlindoro: | we all make boneheaded mistakes sometimes-- just don't usually go to our bosses about them |
| [00:47:22] | Beirdo: | yeah, exactly |
| [00:47:27] | sphery: | IMHO, fastcgi in apache is useful for languages whose only interfce with apache is cgi |
| [00:48:02] | sphery: | only useful, that is |
| [00:48:25] | iamlindoro: | Went to go see how easy it would be to switch container out to Matroska, but since our codecs of choice are generally not supported, it would basically need to be a new recorder class from scratch |
| [00:50:16] | wagnerrp: | mpeg4 is not supported? |
| [00:50:39] | iamlindoro: | it is, but that's the only one |
| [00:50:49] | wagnerrp: | well theres only two |
| [00:51:10] | iamlindoro: | and RTJPEG and mJPEG |
| [00:51:11] | wagnerrp: | who would know a lot about the PBB? |
| [00:51:17] | iamlindoro: | stuart M |
| [00:51:20] | iamlindoro: | he wrote it |
| [00:51:23] | iamlindoro: | I know a bit |
| [00:51:28] | iamlindoro: | daniel probably most after stuart |
| [00:51:48] | wagnerrp: | #9539 seems like a very reasonable patch, simple enough to apply if you know your way around it and know its not something stupid to do |
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| [00:52:00] | wagnerrp: | we support mjpeg? |
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| [00:52:06] | wagnerrp: | i thought it was just rtjpeg and mpeg4 |
| [00:52:43] | iamlindoro: | Beirdo: can we get the bot to spit out and exploded ticket url? |
| [00:52:51] | iamlindoro: | maybe anything with #? |
| [00:53:03] | wagnerrp: | http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/9539 |
| [00:53:18] | Beirdo: | I don't think that's in there right now |
| [00:53:21] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp: yeah, I navigated to it |
| [00:53:23] | Beirdo: | not sure though |
| [00:53:25] | Beirdo: | #1234 |
| [00:53:30] | Beirdo: | nope. |
| [00:53:38] | iamlindoro: | Beirdo: yeah, was wondering about having it added |
| [00:54:10] | Beirdo: | we could do that ;) |
| [00:54:13] | wagnerrp: | i mean if it works as his patch says it does |
| [00:54:27] | wagnerrp: | that could eliminate possibly hundreds of queries when flipping through groups |
| [00:54:54] | Beirdo: | yes, we support mjpeg ;) |
| [00:55:05] | Beirdo: | for old matrox cards primarily |
| [00:55:35] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp: yes, the patches seem reasonable |
| [00:55:37] | wagnerrp: | oh... we would get pre-compressed mjpeg, and just stuff it in the nuv |
| [00:55:41] | iamlindoro: | I would confirm with stuartm |
| [00:55:48] | Beirdo: | yah, precisely |
| [00:55:59] | Beirdo: | they were old mjpeg hw encoders |
| [00:56:02] | wagnerrp: | ill kick it to him and leave him a message in #mythtv for when he wakes up |
| [00:56:57] | justdave: | so, if I'm shopping for a new set-top box to stick mythfrontend on (no backend needed, I have that elsewhere in the house), what's good hardware to get these days? |
| [00:57:02] | iamlindoro: | I want a fun project that I can get done tonight... a new recorder doesn't sound like it |
| [00:58:06] | justdave: | my existing ones are all Mac Minis, but the lack of ability to procure one that actually has a DVD drive these days makes me wonder about the cost justification |
| [00:58:56] | wagnerrp: | do you actually need a dvd drive? |
| [00:59:27] | wagnerrp: | i mean, as opposed to ripping them to mythvideo, and storing them on your backend |
| [00:59:35] | justdave: | personally, I don't, but the wife and kids still watch DVDs, so yes. |
| [01:00:07] | iamlindoro: | could always get a nice sexy USB one that stacks on top |
| [01:00:09] | wagnerrp: | watch dvds, you can store the ISOs on the backend |
| [01:00:13] | justdave: | and they'd be too impatient to wait for it to get ripped when they walk in the door with a new one and want to watch it |
| [01:00:55] | justinh: | you need a faster machine. takes 10 mins to rip on my new box :) |
| [01:00:57] | wagnerrp: | personally, for the rental or new purchase, i would just pick up a $30 player from bestbuy/walmart/target |
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| [01:01:09] | justdave: | I was thinking the TB of disk space that they come with would be overkill and wouldn't get used... |
| [01:01:23] | justdave: | but I suppose I can always NFS mount that on the backend server and let it use the space. :) |
| [01:01:39] | wagnerrp: | well i was just referring in general |
| [01:01:52] | wagnerrp: | not as a reason you should get a mac mini in particular |
| [01:02:03] | wagnerrp: | personaly, i dont have optical drives in any of my systems |
| [01:02:07] | justdave: | I have a USB bluray drive here I can hook to it, too |
| [01:02:21] | justdave: | which oddly enough only works in Linux. :) |
| [01:02:29] | justdave: | Apple hasn't seen fit to support Bluray yet |
| [01:02:48] | justdave: | (drive would work in Windows, I'm sure, but I don't use that ;) |
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| [01:03:18] | wagnerrp: | i doubt apple ever will natively support bluray playback |
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| [01:03:43] | justdave: | yeah, especially since they don't even include optical drives anymore |
| [01:03:49] | justdave: | "digital download is the way of the future" |
| [01:04:05] | wagnerrp: | and if they dont have a protected path of sufficient opaqueness for the bluray forum to allow 3rd party players |
| [01:04:20] | wagnerrp: | i mean thats the real issue, they dont have the protected path that windows does |
| [01:04:40] | wagnerrp: | thats why you dont see cablecard capable software on OSX either |
| [01:05:09] | wagnerrp: | not because apple doesnt want it, apple doesnt care to support the drm requirements cable labs wants |
| [01:05:21] | wagnerrp: | s/doesnt want it/wont allow it/ |
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| [01:09:37] | iamlindoro: | This is really one of those nights where the content owners could charge me $20 to show me a movie on demand which is currently in the theatre |
| [01:09:58] | iamlindoro: | I want to see Captain America, but girlfriend working and too lazy to go see it alone |
| [01:11:44] | wagnerrp: | jya uses the iptv tuner... think he has any interesst in taking tickets for it? |
| [01:12:01] | Beirdo: | can always try |
| [01:12:10] | wagnerrp: | AFAIK, hes the only dev who actually has a use for it |
| [01:12:23] | iamlindoro: | Daniel has done some work on it recently |
| [01:12:31] | iamlindoro: | even set up a test bed IIRC |
| [01:12:43] | Beirdo: | I'd have a use for it if I had an IPTV source :) |
| [01:12:52] | wagnerrp: | right, but he has no real vested interest in it |
| [01:12:54] | Beirdo: | alas... |
| [01:13:07] | wagnerrp: | as opposed to someone who actually records stuff through it |
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| [01:21:00] | iamlindoro: | Heh, looks like skd5aner did a little updating of the release notes, but only formatting... wonder if he's gotten so far behind he's given up :) |
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| [01:35:24] | Beirdo: | Hmm |
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| [01:42:43] | Beirdo: | this HDHR3 is tuning NOTHING |
| [01:42:52] | Beirdo: | and saying it has 0 signal strength |
| [01:43:37] | wagnerrp: | did you plug the coax in? |
| [01:43:41] | Beirdo: | yes |
| [01:43:49] | wagnerrp: | i have to ask, you know... because you forgot the ethernet |
| [01:43:50] | wagnerrp: | :) |
| [01:43:52] | Beirdo: | I have the antenna on it |
| [01:44:05] | Beirdo: | tried two antennas now both with and without amps |
| [01:44:16] | Beirdo: | two different amps |
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| [01:44:34] | Beirdo: | and using their CLI scan, mythtv and the Windows scan |
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| [01:53:02] | Beirdo: | now it's working... after another power cycle |
| [01:53:12] | Beirdo: | I think I need to get new firmware perhaps |
| [02:03:47] | wagnerrp: | sphery: you want tickets dealing with cutlists? |
| [02:11:12] | Beirdo: | OK, it's behaving for now |
| [02:12:36] | sphery: | wagnerrp: if they're actual cut list ones, yeah, but if they're player ones, no :) |
| [02:12:53] | wagnerrp: | transcoding is applying improper cuts |
| [02:13:04] | sphery: | which is that? |
| [02:13:05] | wagnerrp: | although its 13 months old |
| [02:13:10] | wagnerrp: | so the new cutlist stuff may have fixed it |
| [02:13:31] | wagnerrp: | the new cutlist stuff went into 0.24, right? |
| [02:13:47] | wagnerrp: | do you recall when, specifically? |
| [02:13:48] | Beirdo: | is that a mpeg2cut style transcode? |
| [02:13:58] | wagnerrp: | no, nuv |
| [02:14:06] | sphery: | which ticket? |
| [02:14:15] | wagnerrp: | 9575 |
| [02:14:31] | wagnerrp: | going through janne's old tickets |
| [02:14:52] | sphery: | [mythtv-commits] Ticket #9575: Idle system causes corrupt recording on last viewed channel |
| [02:14:56] | sphery: | that's cut list? |
| [02:15:05] | wagnerrp: | 8575 |
| [02:15:14] | sphery: | heh ok |
| [02:15:49] | sphery: | yeah, it's possible that one was fixed with player changes or seektable fixes |
| [02:16:12] | sphery: | but the "longer the movie, the more is missing" makes it sound player/seektable related |
| [02:16:42] | sphery: | that I was thinking that no one actually fixed the nuv seektable stuff |
| [02:16:55] | sphery: | that = though |
| [02:17:39] | Beirdo: | I may have fixed it while fixing the MPEG ones, but I don't think so |
| [02:18:34] | sphery: | wonder if running a seektable rebuild then cutting works properly |
| [02:18:41] | wagnerrp: | only 65 tickets to go |
| [02:18:46] | sphery: | in other words, if it's only the while-recording seektable that's borked |
| [02:18:49] | Beirdo: | probably |
| [02:19:14] | wagnerrp: | we should turn off the spam filters |
| [02:19:16] | sphery: | yeah, I'd guess so, too, just because it's likely more would notice it with transcoded recordings not seeking properly |
| [02:19:18] | wagnerrp: | hit 10k by tomorrow |
| [02:20:09] | wagnerrp: | plus apparently we would have gotten a list of face creams made from foreskins |
| [02:20:46] | wagnerrp: | http://code.mythtv.org/trac/admin/spamfilter/monitor/41384 |
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| [02:21:26] | wagnerrp: | i scared him off... :) |
| [02:22:50] | iamlindoro: | There, that was a little project, but it feels like a nice improvement |
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| [02:42:30] | justdave: | oh, cool, mythfrontend got a new launcher icon in avenard's repo. One that actually has contrasting colors so you can see it on the panel :) |
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| [02:51:04] | jst: | Is there a way to renice mythcommflag so it doesn't bog down my machine? |
| [02:51:52] | wagnerrp: | renice doesnt work? |
| [02:52:14] | wagnerrp: | if you want it to happen automatically |
| [02:52:28] | wagnerrp: | there are options in the jobqueue settings to make the commflagger run nice |
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| [02:52:38] | wagnerrp: | and if that is not sufficient, enforce a bit of sleep time |
| [02:53:32] | jst: | wagnerrp: are you referring to setting it to "slow" |
| [02:53:50] | wagnerrp: | possibly |
| [02:53:57] | wagnerrp: | i dont recall what the specific setting is |
| [02:53:59] | jst: | yeah, that's not working |
| [02:54:09] | jst: | let me find it |
| [02:54:13] | wagnerrp: | what version are you running? |
| [02:54:25] | jst: | CPU lowsage: Low |
| [02:54:30] | jst: | 24.0.1 |
| [02:54:49] | wagnerrp: | lowsage? |
| [02:55:19] | jst: | cpu lowsage: low |
| [02:55:32] | jst: | cpu usage: low |
| [02:55:43] | jst: | heh, sorry, drunk |
| [02:55:56] | wagnerrp: | what is this system? |
| [02:56:12] | jst: | what do you mean? fedora 15 xfce spin |
| [02:56:26] | wagnerrp: | hardware |
| [02:56:30] | jst: | ohh |
| [02:56:40] | jst: | want me to pastepin? |
| [02:56:52] | wagnerrp: | what is there to pastebin? |
| [02:57:10] | wagnerrp: | just cpu, memory, are your recordings on your database disk? are they on the system disk? |
| [02:58:33] | jst: | amd dual core 3 ghz, memory — not sure how to find it |
| [02:58:41] | jst: | i have 3 hard drives... 1 for os, 1 for recordings |
| [02:59:23] | jst: | nvidia mcp78s geforce 8200 that does vdpau no prob |
| [02:59:45] | wagnerrp: | run 'top', mythcommflag should be at the top |
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| [02:59:57] | wagnerrp: | what is the value in the fourth column (NI) |
| [03:00:40] | jst: | 1 sec |
| [03:00:45] | jst: | btw, i disabled commflag |
| [03:01:43] | jst: | 0 |
| [03:01:53] | jst: | should i make it 19 |
| [03:02:08] | wagnerrp: | was that from running through the jobqueue, or running on the command line? |
| [03:02:41] | jst: | okay, mythcommflag isn't at the top because it is disabled |
| [03:02:47] | jst: | i can reenable |
| [03:02:53] | jst: | and see the NI value |
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| [03:04:09] | Beirdo: | stupid HDHR3 |
| [03:04:24] | Beirdo: | I think it overheats itself |
| [03:05:43] | jst: | wagnerrp: okay, 3 minutes until a recording completes and then it will start mythcommflag |
| [03:07:49] | Beirdo: | I need a break. it's tuning right now, but I give it only a few minutes |
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| [03:10:44] | wagnerrp: | i dont get it |
| [03:10:56] | wagnerrp: | theres a py-zfs module... but it doesnt really seem to do anything |
| [03:11:29] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [03:11:47] | Beirdo: | well, I'm gonna let this thing sit... sans cover |
| [03:12:01] | Beirdo: | see if it will stay cool enough to actually record shows |
| [03:12:27] | wagnerrp: | theres another unofficial one that may actually do stuff |
| [03:12:36] | wagnerrp: | and actually interfaces with the zfs library directly |
| [03:12:42] | Beirdo: | with the case on, the coax connector got uncomfortably hot to the touch |
| [03:12:43] | wagnerrp: | but... it only builds under Solaris |
| [03:12:50] | wagnerrp: | and seems to be non-trivial to port |
| [03:12:51] | Beirdo: | heh, figures |
| [03:13:13] | jst: | 2 mins, wagnerrp :) |
| [03:13:29] | wagnerrp: | it was three minutes eight minutes ago |
| [03:13:34] | Beirdo: | I'm really not impressed by the HDHR3 compared to my old HDHR Dual. |
| [03:13:40] | jst: | i know, my mistake heh |
| [03:13:53] | wagnerrp: | what stops recording at the half hour? |
| [03:13:55] | wagnerrp: | robot chicken? |
| [03:14:11] | wagnerrp: | erm, quarter hour |
| [03:14:24] | jst: | some local fox |
| [03:14:25] | Beirdo: | wow, even the ethernet chip is heating up |
| [03:14:39] | iamlindoro: | could just have a bum unit |
| [03:14:39] | ** Beirdo uses his digital wattmeter... ** | |
| [03:14:41] | wagnerrp: | is the power adapter overdriving it? |
| [03:14:46] | Beirdo: | aka finger |
| [03:15:06] | Beirdo: | it's the right power adapter |
| [03:15:16] | Beirdo: | it's rated 5V/1A |
| [03:15:19] | wagnerrp: | sure, but is it actually right? |
| [03:15:26] | wagnerrp: | what is it actually outputting |
| [03:15:38] | Beirdo: | probably 5V at up to 1A |
| [03:15:52] | Beirdo: | there's no easy way to measure the current |
| [03:15:59] | wagnerrp: | but the voltage? |
| [03:16:24] | Beirdo: | one sec |
| [03:16:56] | jst: | wagnerrp: nice is at *17* |
| [03:16:57] | Beirdo: | 5.03V |
| [03:17:08] | wagnerrp: | close enough |
| [03:17:10] | jst: | can i change that somehow? |
| [03:17:11] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [03:17:16] | wagnerrp: | jst: meaning it is being niced |
| [03:17:20] | wagnerrp: | 17 is pretty low |
| [03:17:25] | jst: | shit |
| [03:17:29] | Beirdo: | could be a bum unit though, yeah |
| [03:17:30] | jst: | err, crap |
| [03:17:31] | wagnerrp: | if 17 is causing problems, making it lower wont fix anything |
| [03:17:34] | wagnerrp: | and watch the language |
| [03:17:41] | jst: | sorry |
| [03:17:48] | jst: | so what are my other options? |
| [03:18:17] | Beirdo: | processor, demodulator and tuners all get fairly hot, the ethernet PHY is getting fairly toasty |
| [03:18:32] | Beirdo: | if that's the way it's supposed to run, the thing needs to have a fan |
| [03:18:54] | Beirdo: | works pretty well until it just stops |
| [03:18:55] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [03:18:59] | jst: | quardcore? |
| [03:19:29] | wagnerrp: | jst: how much space do you have free on your recording drive? what filesystem? |
| [03:19:41] | wagnerrp: | how are these commflaggings affecting you, specifically? |
| [03:20:08] | jst: | /dev/sdc1 2.0T 1.3T 617G 68% /mnt/sdc1 |
| [03:20:47] | jst: | whenerver mythcommflag is running, other shows are very chopper! |
| [03:21:06] | jst: | err |
| [03:21:16] | wagnerrp: | choppy recording? choppy playback? |
| [03:21:22] | jst: | /dev/sdb1 2.1T 1.6T 441G 78% /mnt/sdb1 |
| [03:21:24] | jst: | playback |
| [03:22:07] | wagnerrp: | do we ionice mythcommflag? |
| [03:22:46] | iamlindoro: | I thought we did |
| [03:22:48] | jst: | i don't follow... |
| [03:22:55] | jst: | ohh |
| [03:23:00] | wagnerrp: | we myth_ioprio, i assume that does the same thing |
| [03:23:13] | iamlindoro: | yes, though IIRC it's a setting how we nice it |
| [03:23:29] | iamlindoro: | or more accurately, how we nice it is based on a setting |
| [03:23:33] | Beirdo: | OK, I'm gonna go look at code in a few :) |
| [03:23:36] | Beirdo: | finally |
| [03:23:45] | jst: | great! |
| [03:24:01] | wagnerrp: | even still, the flagger should be CPU limited |
| [03:24:04] | wagnerrp: | not disk limited |
| [03:24:10] | wagnerrp: | especially with any form of 2TB drive |
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| [03:30:59] | sphery: | fwiw, high = default priority and no sleeps, medium = 17 nice and no sleeps, low = 17 nice and sleeps after every frame processed |
| [03:31:59] | wagnerrp: | sufficient sleeping that it can only muster like 50fps or so |
| [03:32:13] | wagnerrp: | as opposed to the 500fps you might otherwise get with HD MPEG2 content |
| [03:32:52] | sphery: | probably |
| [03:33:32] | Beirdo: | now... what first. |
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| [03:35:32] | wagnerrp: | live encoder for mythweb music streaming |
| [03:38:07] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [03:38:16] | Beirdo: | that's not on my list, I hope :) |
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| [03:38:30] | Beirdo: | gotta go see what all fun you've added to my collection ;) |
| [03:38:45] | Beirdo: | and also gotta debug me some more of the mpeg2fix fun |
| [03:39:09] | wagnerrp: | i didnt add anything to anyones that was more than a dozen lines or so |
| [03:39:24] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [03:39:34] | Beirdo: | thanks for doing some triage, BTW |
| [03:40:12] | ** Beirdo looks at Mount Packing Boxes and sighs ** | |
| [03:40:28] | Beirdo: | One problem with buying so much crap from Amazon |
| [03:40:33] | Beirdo: | the boxes pile up. |
| [03:40:45] | Beirdo: | and in each box is usually another box or two |
| [03:41:22] | Beirdo: | I guess I'll run it down to the recycling bin... tomorrow |
| [03:45:00] | Beirdo: | I guess I should setup mythweb on the devel box too |
| [03:45:03] | Beirdo: | sigh |
| [03:45:10] | Beirdo: | some other day |
| [03:45:33] | wagnerrp: | you have any need for a freebsd mythtv image? |
| [03:46:05] | Beirdo: | not right now, I have my box capable of building one |
| [03:46:22] | wagnerrp: | package list? |
| [03:46:35] | Beirdo: | ? |
| [03:46:48] | Beirdo: | which ones did I install? |
| [03:46:52] | Beirdo: | I can't remember :) |
| [03:46:56] | wagnerrp: | ? |
| [03:46:59] | Beirdo: | definitely Qt |
| [03:47:02] | jst: | any look for my problem (mythcommflag) slows live/recorded shows to a crawl? |
| [03:47:08] | wagnerrp: | i mean... do you want the package list of crap i installed for my backends? |
| [03:47:12] | jst: | if i killall mythcommflag, everything works fine |
| [03:47:20] | Beirdo: | Oooh, sure, in case I missed some |
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| [03:49:44] | wagnerrp: | http://pastebin.com/F6dTwP4q |
| [03:49:51] | wagnerrp: | thats everything ive got installed on the buildbot |
| [03:50:23] | Beirdo: | cool |
| [03:50:32] | Beirdo: | I refused to install qt3support |
| [03:50:45] | Beirdo: | which is how I found that mpeg2fix needed it :) |
| [03:50:47] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [03:54:04] | Beirdo: | hmmm |
| [04:02:03] | Beirdo: | starting to really hate computers |
| [04:02:20] | Beirdo: | teh freebsd box spontaneously rebooted |
| [04:02:20] | wagnerrp: | oh but theyre so indifferent to you! |
| [04:02:36] | Beirdo: | and got stuck partway into the boot |
| [04:03:14] | wagnerrp: | probably forgot to update your zfs cache |
| [04:03:29] | Beirdo: | not that I know of |
| [04:03:46] | Beirdo: | why would that crash after running for like 8h though? |
| [04:03:55] | wagnerrp: | although if youre using the gpt boot, you shouldnt have to |
| [04:04:00] | wagnerrp: | no, i mean why it failed on boot |
| [04:04:11] | Beirdo: | yeah, using gptzfsboot |
| [04:06:09] | Beirdo: | crazy computer |
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| [04:15:58] | wagnerrp: | well, the only time my two bsd boxes reboot is when the power goes out |
| [04:16:24] | wagnerrp: | (or when i try to destroy an epair) |
| [04:23:36] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [04:24:07] | wagnerrp: | like ive mentioned a couple times, thats an insta-fault |
| [04:24:11] | wagnerrp: | insta-panic |
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| [08:06:09] | okolsi: | stuartm: this is how date is defined in Blue Abstract PBB: http://pastebin.com/SbqWEwaG |
| [08:08:24] | okolsi: | stuartm: "starttime" works fine while "shortdate" needs to be active before it is shown.. this happens both with Blue Abstract 1.4 and 1.5 versions |
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| [10:45:24] | k-man: | I'm having a problem with my remote frontend connecting to the mysql db. I granted permission to %, but when I try and log in from my remote machine using mysql, I get this error: ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'mythconverg@192.168.1.2'@'localhost' (using password: YES) |
| [10:50:58] | k-man: | hmm... maybe syntax was wrong.. but even mysql --user root -p --host=192.168.1.2 mythyconverg fails |
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| [11:28:52] | k-man: | oh, it would help if I spell the db name correctly |
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| [11:34:11] | trumee: | I have two mce transrecievers using which i want to control two 3 stbs. do i need to run two copies of lircd? |
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| [11:35:13] | trumee: | each HP transreciever has 2 ports each. |
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| [11:58:03] | k-man: | does anyone use the MythCenter theme other than me? |
| [12:00:35] | solv: | no |
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| [12:04:23] | k-man: | solv, thanks |
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| [12:05:27] | solv: | =) |
| [12:09:29] | stuartm: | k-man: paul-h does |
| [12:09:59] | k-man: | oh yay! 2 people in the world use it |
| [12:10:20] | sphery: | k-man: also, your error above from mythtv shows it's trying to log in as user mythconverg (rather than to database mythconverg) |
| [12:10:37] | k-man: | i've been hacking it a bit: https://github.com/jasonblewis/MythCenterNew |
| [12:10:53] | k-man: | sphery, yes, I worked that one out eventually |
| [12:10:58] | k-man: | thanks :) |
| [12:11:26] | k-man: | its a nasty hack of the theme, but it makes the fields wider so you can see all the text in them |
| [12:11:49] | k-man: | minus points for style, plus points for usability |
| [12:11:54] | stuartm: | k-man: actually, I believe it's pretty popular among a lot of older users as it's stylistically identical to the older versions of MythTV, 0.18,0.16,etc |
| [12:12:12] | k-man: | yeah right |
| [12:12:27] | k-man: | I might post it to the users list soon |
| [12:13:44] | sphery: | what, we have a new maintainer for the MythCenter theme? http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Theme_Teams |
| [12:13:47] | sphery: | :) |
| [12:14:01] | k-man: | almost |
| [12:14:25] | sphery: | I'd /really/ like to get teams of people who actually use each of the (especially in-mythtv-repo) themes to maintain them. |
| [12:14:28] | k-man: | I like the theme too because it works for SD 4:3 tvs |
| [12:14:45] | sphery: | Yeah, we really need a non-Childish 4:3 theme, too |
| [12:14:55] | k-man: | sphery, well – this is my first go at it |
| [12:14:57] | sphery: | since that's pretty much the only one |
| [12:15:04] | k-man: | I need feedback on it |
| [12:15:06] | sphery: | k-man: everyone has to start somewhere... :) |
| [12:15:25] | sphery: | besides, if a team works on it, each person can build on the inputs of others |
| [12:15:33] | k-man: | yeah |
| [12:15:35] | k-man: | would be nice |
| [12:15:47] | sphery: | the hard part is getting people to actually volunteer to help |
| [12:16:28] | k-man: | yes |
| [12:16:34] | k-man: | finding time is hard |
| [12:16:50] | sphery: | even though maintenance could be as simple as just doing those things you want to do when you decide to do them |
| [12:17:07] | sphery: | (I think people are afraid it would become a job for them) |
| [12:17:18] | k-man: | people will no doubt not like my theme as I shifted things left of center. had to to make the wide selectors fit |
| [12:17:21] | sphery: | but, again, if we can get a team of people... |
| [12:17:39] | k-man: | well, I'm happy to be part of the MythCenter theme |
| [12:18:11] | sphery: | Yeah. I think danielk had refused a similar change to the MythCenter theme because "MythCenter has a certain style..." kind of thing |
| [12:18:27] | k-man: | I used Template Toolkit to make it easier to move things around on my theme |
| [12:18:31] | k-man: | err.. .on the them I should say |
| [12:18:37] | sphery: | that said, I can see how it would make it actually usable, so... |
| [12:18:58] | k-man: | well, as it stands, it solves my issue with it |
| [12:19:31] | k-man: | the worst field was the "record this program at any time...." was always truncated |
| [12:19:34] | k-man: | drove me nuts |
| [12:20:07] | sphery: | yeah |
| [12:20:18] | sphery: | without changes, mythcenter is mostly useless on that screen |
| [12:20:51] | sphery: | we really need to get a smart UI guy (like stuartm :) to figure out a way to redo that screen so that the long "labels" aren't actually the button names |
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| [12:21:14] | stuartm: | sphery: it's all in the theme |
| [12:21:18] | k-man: | also the storage options screen was very bad too, but I rarely use that screen so it didn't really matter so much |
| [12:21:25] | stuartm: | sphery: it's not hardcoded that way |
| [12:21:46] | sphery: | stuartm: I thought recording rule editor forced the words into the buttons |
| [12:22:42] | stuartm: | oh, hmm, yeah it does |
| [12:22:51] | stuartm: | I was thinking of the priority stuff |
| [12:23:39] | sphery: | ahhh |
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| [12:24:54] | k-man: | so would either of you care to test out my theme? |
| [12:26:18] | sphery: | I probably wouldn't be a very helpful tester--I not at all artistic, and know that I'd prefer it over existing just by the usability gains |
| [12:28:39] | k-man: | I just actually loaded it on my live mythbox |
| [12:28:45] | k-man: | it does look a little funny |
| [12:29:13] | k-man: | anyway, I'll run it like that for a few days |
| [12:29:16] | k-man: | see how I feel |
| [12:34:50] | rileyp: | i use mythcentre on my be as it is graphically challenged ( I only use it for the guide) |
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| [12:54:27] | rileyp: | does irsend work in the newer kernels |
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| [12:56:46] | rileyp: | moved to natty from lucid for the hd sound and alsa 0.24 and will go to myth025 if its worth it vut Im having trouble with irsend. I might be better straying with lucid wher lirc plays as per normal |
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| [12:57:40] | stuartm: | k-man: I'd love to help but I can barely make the time to test my own themes right now |
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| [12:58:03] | k-man: | ok thanks |
| [12:58:36] | k-man: | rileyp, try out my theme if you care to – I tried to fix the problem where fields were too narrow to show the whole text |
| [13:00:26] | rileyp: | k-man that would be a big job yo fix? ... its been like that a long time I have loaded your link above and will try to find some time... |
| [13:00:55] | k-man: | rileyp, wasnt too big |
| [13:01:10] | k-man: | took me a few hours to get the hang of things |
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| [13:09:50] | rileyp: | problem I find with themes is they have changed so much of the way they work I'm now lost and cant solve problems I used to be able to. I really dislike the removal of the osd theme menu as now my favorite (graphite) has a different osd theme to what it used to and I dont like it. whimper moans groans... |
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| [13:14:24] | k-man: | rileyp, sorry, no idea about that |
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| [13:43:51] | Meliorator: | hey all, i have some hauppauge tv cards and i'm wondering if it's possible to get a mythtv server running in a vmware workstation (win7 host, ubuntu 11.04 vm) with them? |
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| [15:14:45] | wagnerrp: | Meliorator:::: no |
| [15:15:28] | oliver_: | I'm trying to install mythtv from sources on a mythbuntu system so that I can make a minor modification, but I'm getting version mismatch errors when trying to start the newly compiled mythbackend. Is there anyone here who is able / willing to help me out? |
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| [15:21:01] | Meliorator: | ah :( well, i was thinking of having a tv server, with lots of tv tuners, which are set to record certain series and serve up live tv to the boxes on my local network. what are my options with mythtv? |
| [15:21:47] | Meliorator: | i'm currently using WMC, which works well, but is bloated and "clunky" |
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| [15:22:11] | Meliorator: | and it doesn't give my anywhere near enough configuration to play with |
| [15:22:36] | wagnerrp: | oliver_: it means... youre running two different versions |
| [15:22:51] | wagnerrp: | is that version mismatch a protocol mismatch? schema mismatch? ABI mismatch? |
| [15:23:22] | oliver_: | Application binary / libraries |
| [15:23:36] | wagnerrp: | Meliorator: yes, mythtv will do that, but it does not support windows backends, and most tuner types are only supported in linux |
| [15:23:40] | Meliorator: | basically, i'd want to be able to stream live tv to any o/s easily and have all normal tv controls |
| [15:23:54] | wagnerrp: | while you could in theory run USB tuners in passthrough mode in a VM |
| [15:24:01] | wagnerrp: | you really shouldnt bother with VMs at all |
| [15:24:16] | wagnerrp: | oliver_: it means you have plugins compiled for a different version of mythfrontend |
| [15:24:33] | Meliorator: | well, windows sees my tuners as usb devices, even though they are pci... |
| [15:25:03] | wagnerrp: | yeah, im still going to say run linux or dont bother |
| [15:25:24] | Meliorator: | trouble is i dont have a spare box to test, before i make any switch |
| [15:26:33] | wagnerrp: | got a spare hard drive? |
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| [15:31:16] | wagnerrp: | oliver_: is the application you are running outright refusing to start? |
| [15:33:17] | oliver_: | wagnerrp: Yup. Just the backend though. The frontend will start with a certain amount of whinging. If I 'make uninstall' both the mythtv and mythplugins, the old one starts just fine. |
| [15:34:01] | wagnerrp: | then your backend has somehow become mismatched with your library versions |
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| [15:34:17] | wagnerrp: | which should never happen because the two are part of the same package |
| [15:34:31] | wagnerrp: | however, mythbuntu breaks up the core install |
| [15:34:41] | wagnerrp: | resulting in the possibility of such things |
| [15:35:02] | wagnerrp: | wait, youve installed from source on this box? |
| [15:35:03] | oliver_: | I read that mythbuntu do have some funkyness with their themes packages, but I'm reluctant to blanketly remove all of those packages incase I really screw up and get beaten by the wife. |
| [15:35:19] | oliver_: | Yup. I want to tinker with mythvideo. |
| [15:35:39] | wagnerrp: | is this 0.24 or 0.25? |
| [15:35:41] | oliver_: | 0.24 |
| [15:35:56] | oliver_: | Fixes 0.24, to be exact. |
| [15:35:57] | wagnerrp: | well note that any of your tinkering will amount to little |
| [15:36:00] | wagnerrp: | mythvideo is gone |
| [15:36:03] | wagnerrp: | consumed by the core |
| [15:36:27] | wagnerrp: | in any case, the libraries and applications are all installed by the core |
| [15:36:46] | wagnerrp: | so installing from source, you should have updated everything in one fell swoop |
| [15:36:56] | oliver_: | That's what I thought. |
| [15:37:11] | wagnerrp: | did you remove the conflicting mythbuntu packages first? |
| [15:37:23] | wagnerrp: | is it possible one of those could have updated, and overwritten your build? |
| [15:37:55] | oliver_: | As I said, I'm reluctant to do so as if the tv stops working, I won't be flavour of the month. |
| [15:38:11] | oliver_: | But I figured that /usr/local/... should trump /usr/..., so there shouldn't be an issue. |
| [15:38:12] | wagnerrp: | settings are all contained in the database |
| [15:38:47] | wagnerrp: | dont know about that |
| [15:39:00] | wagnerrp: | i would ask in #ubuntu-mythtv |
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| [15:39:17] | wagnerrp: | since this is almost certainly a conflict between the sources in the packages you overwrote |
| [15:39:33] | wagnerrp: | i would suggest removing all the packages entirely |
| [15:39:40] | wagnerrp: | and then installing the source build over top of it |
| [15:39:45] | oliver_: | Okay. Didn't realise the channel existed. |
| [15:39:55] | wagnerrp: | note that many of mythbuntu's applications are in fact not applications |
| [15:40:05] | wagnerrp: | but scripts pointing to <application.real |
| [15:40:31] | oliver_: | I only installed the system two day ago, so I guess if removing the wrong packages does leave it all broken, I can always start again :) |
| [15:41:47] | oliver_: | Thanks for your help, and I'll head over to the other channel should I still struggle. |
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| [16:08:48] | Meliorator: | wagnerrp: so if i have a linux server with all my tv tuners in, i can *somehow* watch/control live tv on a windows box? |
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| [16:26:51] | wagnerrp: | the frontend will run on a windows machine, yes |
| [16:27:11] | wagnerrp: | or you can watch recordings either through a samba share, or upnp |
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| [16:37:07] | oobe: | anyone know of a GPU as good or better than a GT220 that doesnt have a fan I been using a gt220 for ages with no problem now the fan is whining loudly |
| [16:37:46] | oobe: | it needs to have hdmi |
| [16:39:05] | wagnerrp: | you can get fanless GT220s |
| [16:43:33] | oobe: | really that is good |
| [16:43:40] | oobe: | I will look around |
| [16:44:31] | wagnerrp: | you can probably find a replacement heatsink for that gt220 |
| [16:44:41] | wagnerrp: | i added a fanless heatsink to my 9800gt |
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| [16:46:28] | oobe: | yea I only spent $40 on it |
| [16:46:41] | oobe: | or so cant remember I do remember it was cheap |
| [16:46:53] | oobe: | so replacing it completly seemed more time efficient |
| [16:47:14] | oobe: | however looking around a lot of the one's on ebay are over priced |
| [16:49:40] | oobe: | I dont know How i got mine so cheap now where ever I look everything is like twice the price |
| [16:49:52] | oobe: | maybe replacing the HS is the idea |
| [16:53:12] | oobe: | I already tried underclocking it |
| [16:53:24] | oobe: | although it seems to have a mind of its own |
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| [17:02:53] | wagnerrp: | i see GT220s for as low as $25 after rebate |
| [17:03:01] | wagnerrp: | but the fanless ones tend to be more expensive |
| [17:04:15] | wagnerrp: | you might try http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121438 |
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| [17:05:04] | stuartm: | okolsi: fixed |
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| [17:05:33] | wagnerrp: | honestly, i dont know why one would ever buy computer hardware on ebay |
| [17:05:47] | wagnerrp: | stuff like cases, maybe... but not the electronic bits |
| [17:09:48] | AndyCap: | wagnerrp: because it can't be found anywhere else. ) |
| [17:10:41] | wagnerrp: | make that, computer hardware still available retail |
| [17:10:59] | oobe: | wagnerrp, I cant buy from newegg but I found to local shops with that card for around $55 so I might get one tommorow |
| [17:11:09] | oobe: | the noise just disappeared though lol |
| [17:11:14] | wagnerrp: | canadian? |
| [17:11:19] | oobe: | It was bad enough to wake me up |
| [17:11:22] | oobe: | australian |
| [17:11:25] | oobe: | AUD |
| [17:11:38] | wagnerrp: | ah, didnt know ebay operated in australia |
| [17:11:42] | oobe: | yea |
| [17:11:51] | oobe: | and u cant order from newegg in australia |
| [17:12:06] | wagnerrp: | well you can, but only in special circumstances |
| [17:12:08] | oobe: | but luckily there are 2 of the cheapest hardware suppliers right near me |
| [17:12:18] | wagnerrp: | you have to be on a US military base |
| [17:12:36] | wagnerrp: | actually, i dont know if we have any down there |
| [17:12:38] | wagnerrp: | probably not |
| [17:13:47] | oobe: | yea probably not |
| [17:13:57] | oobe: | we dont have any wars here |
| [17:14:02] | oobe: | or any oil |
| [17:14:16] | AndyCap: | well, I don't about US, but there are services that do re-ship from the us |
| [17:14:18] | wagnerrp: | yeah, but i didnt know if we had a naval station left over from WWII or something |
| [17:14:25] | AndyCap: | don't know about AUS |
| [17:14:54] | AndyCap: | but if you want it cheap, I guess there's too much overhead involved in that for just 40 dollars. |
| [17:15:27] | oobe: | damn it it just started up again |
| [17:15:40] | oobe: | maybe all I need to do is pull it out and give it a clean |
| [17:15:52] | oobe: | its been pretty quiet or silent for the last few months |
| [17:15:59] | AndyCap: | Ah, freight-forwarder is the word |
| [17:16:23] | oobe: | if it wernt making this noise the last thing I would be thinking about is a new GPU |
| [17:17:11] | AndyCap: | oobe: get a replacement gpu cooler? |
| [17:17:38] | oobe: | yea I would but I dont know how easy hard it would be compared to how much I would save |
| [17:17:46] | oobe: | I mean its only $55 to replace |
| [17:18:03] | oobe: | but a new HSF might cost atleast $30 |
| [17:18:49] | AndyCap: | if you can get the same chip, I might not pay off, but if you risk having to fix a lot of "bugs" with a new card etc it might be worth it |
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| [17:19:02] | AndyCap: | hmm, my typing is a bit off today. |
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| [17:19:33] | oobe: | I sought of see getting a GT520 as an upgrade anyway |
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| [17:19:52] | oobe: | only thing is I dont play games and probably will never see a performance increase |
| [17:23:20] | okolsi: | stuartm: :) |
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| [17:30:22] | wagnerrp: | oobe: i dont believe a 520 is any more powerful than a 220 |
| [17:31:38] | oobe: | I think it is I checked the specs I might be wrong though |
| [17:31:49] | wagnerrp: | yeah, its actually LESS powerful |
| [17:31:58] | wagnerrp: | but it only uses half the power at TDP |
| [17:32:07] | wagnerrp: | and probably mess less than half when idle |
| [17:32:27] | wagnerrp: | plus you get HD audio passthrough if your receiver supports it and you have bluray content |
| [17:33:27] | oobe: | hmm thats confusing http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121438 vs http://commercial.asus.com/product/detail/43 shows the GT520 as more powerful |
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| [17:33:51] | oobe: | so are you saying the GT520 will use less power |
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| [17:34:39] | wagnerrp: | its a higher clockrate, more bandwidth, newer version of directx/opengl/cuda |
| [17:34:50] | wagnerrp: | but it only has half the geometry shaders |
| [17:35:16] | wagnerrp: | s far as mythtv needs, it should still be plenty |
| [17:35:16] | AndyCap: | does vdpau use the shaders? |
| [17:35:24] | AndyCap: | ok |
| [17:35:32] | wagnerrp: | yes, deinterlacing filters are implemented in the shaders |
| [17:35:42] | oobe: | what does that mean to someone like me who never plays games and just wants myth to work its best |
| [17:35:50] | wagnerrp: | its good enough |
| [17:35:56] | oobe: | does it mean I wont beable to use high qaulity deinterlacers? |
| [17:36:04] | wagnerrp: | and it has additional features that would be beneficial to mythtv over the 220 |
| [17:36:13] | wagnerrp: | it should be powerful enough to do so |
| [17:36:46] | oobe: | ok so over all its better? |
| [17:37:08] | oobe: | your saying it uses less power and has additional features used by mythtv correct? |
| [17:37:21] | wagnerrp: | it uses less power, and it offers HD audio passthrough |
| [17:37:29] | oobe: | I cannot see a problem its all pluses to |
| [17:37:38] | oobe: | what is HD audio passthrough |
| [17:38:07] | oobe: | does that mean when I plug it into my tv I can control the volume with out using softvol |
| [17:38:23] | wagnerrp: | no |
| [17:38:58] | wagnerrp: | that means when you play back bluray, with DTSMA or TrueHD, with a compatible HDMI AV receiver, you can use the higher quality audio |
| [17:39:18] | oobe: | ah ok |
| [17:39:24] | wagnerrp: | by definition, passthrough implies no 'softvol' |
| [17:39:33] | wagnerrp: | as softvol requires alteration of the audio stream |
| [17:40:26] | oobe: | ok |
| [17:40:33] | oobe: | sounds like it wont make a difference to me then |
| [17:41:18] | oobe: | at the moment I plug my gt220 into my lcd tv via hdmi and use softvol to control the volume on the tv |
| [17:43:05] | oobe: | anyway maybe all I need to do is take out my gt220 and give it a good clean as I said it was pretty quiet before today |
| [17:43:07] | wagnerrp: | why not use the tv to control the volume on the tv? |
| [17:44:08] | wagnerrp: | a 'good clean' wont do much |
| [17:44:19] | wagnerrp: | if the fan is making noise, its because the bearing is failing |
| [17:44:23] | wagnerrp: | it will only get worse |
| [17:45:10] | oobe: | ok I will just replace it then |
| [17:45:35] | oobe: | cause on my tv I plugged in speakers and the speakers cant be controlled by the tv volume |
| [17:45:58] | oobe: | so I put the tv volume on 0 and control the speakers with softvol |
| [17:46:18] | wagnerrp: | why not plug the speakers directly into the computer, and use analog audio? |
| [17:46:19] | oobe: | I dont remember all the variations I tried but this is what works the best for me |
| [17:47:08] | oobe: | I can do that but I dont want to I prefer to have only sound out of hdmi for tv and only sound out of pc for desktop noises etc. |
| [17:47:17] | oobe: | I use this pc as a workstation too |
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| [17:48:22] | oobe: | so right now Im typing this convo on my desktop and on my tv I have mythtv loaded in twinview |
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| [18:30:59] | trumee: | is there anyway to specify the device or socket to use in irexec? |
| [18:31:31] | sphery: | trumee: yes, it's a setting |
| [18:31:46] | trumee: | sphery, oh really where? |
| [18:32:01] | trumee: | sphery, in .lircrc? |
| [18:32:07] | sphery: | LIRC daemon socket: UNIX socket or IP address[:port] to connect in order to communicate with the LIRC Daemon. |
| [18:32:14] | sphery: | oh, you mean change your LIRC to use something else? |
| [18:32:36] | sphery: | if not, our setting is in main General settings |
| [18:33:16] | sphery: | looks like lirc allows you to specify --output for the socket |
| [18:33:19] | trumee: | sphery, i already have lirc running which creates /var/run/lirc0 and i have changed that setting in mythtv |
| [18:33:40] | trumee: | sphery, problem is i have two lircd daemons |
| [18:33:42] | sphery: | ah, you said "in irexec" |
| [18:34:31] | trumee: | sphery, http://old.nabble.com/How-to-pick-device-in-i . . . 2126801.html |
| [18:35:15] | trumee: | sphery, mythtv is working fine with lirc after i had modified the setup settings |
| [18:35:51] | sphery: | or perhaps: http://www.lirc.org/html/configure.html#lircrc_format |
| [18:35:55] | sphery: | Using multiple different devices simultaneously |
| [18:36:07] | sphery: | All events will now be visible at /var/run/lirc/lircd. The second lircd instance connects to the first instance using a TCP/IP socket. |
| [18:36:34] | sphery: | that kind of setup (where you have one lirc listening to the other, and "forwarding" those messages along with its own) |
| [18:37:18] | trumee: | sphery, yes but that will mean both my mce devices will pick up the same remote |
| [18:38:10] | trumee: | i only need the first device for transrecieving, the second only to act as a transmitter |
| [18:39:18] | sphery: | so why not use the other one as a receiver (so irexec's using the default device picks the right one)? |
| [18:40:05] | trumee: | there is no default device atm, but perhaps that is the way to go forward |
| [18:40:44] | trumee: | sphery, thanks for your idea. i will try it out. |
| [18:41:13] | sphery: | should be the path of least resistance |
| [18:41:20] | sphery: | there may well be a prettier approach, though |
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| [20:00:16] | lapion: | anyone in here have any experience with anysee with built in pcmcia ports devices and linux ? |
| [20:00:45] | wagnerrp: | perhaps #linuxtv ? |
| [20:01:05] | lapion: | or better said with mythtv |
| [20:01:30] | wagnerrp: | we dont handle hardware |
| [20:01:39] | wagnerrp: | we handle the DVB and V4L APIs |
| [20:01:57] | wagnerrp: | until you get that device recognized by its respective drivers, its out of our area of expertise |
| [20:03:28] | lapion: | I was just wondering if the ones that are on the market actually are linux compatible ? |
| [20:03:35] | wagnerrp: | !url tuners |
| [20:03:36] | MythLogBot: | tuners: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hardwar . . . _Information |
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| [20:35:11] | iamlindoro: | ThisNewGuy: Trying out your mythweb patch-- I like the approach in general. I do have a few comments if you have a moment |
| [20:35:34] | ThisNewGuy: | Sure – what's up? |
| [20:36:35] | iamlindoro: | There's a misspelling of the word "metadata" which is no big deal... I've opted to change "Metadata Home Page" to simply "Home Page" since it's in context with the inetref |
| [20:36:41] | iamlindoro: | I have some concerns about the multiselect, though |
| [20:37:19] | iamlindoro: | first, the multiple returns give you year, a description of the show, and other info-- why not display it? when you have multiple shows or movies with identical titles, it's the context info that makes a selection possible |
| [20:37:33] | iamlindoro: | Second, on my display, that multiselect is *giant* |
| [20:37:38] | iamlindoro: | and the images are all broken links |
| [20:38:10] | iamlindoro: | Otherwise, very, very nice work-- this is a great addition |
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| [20:39:57] | iamlindoro: | Oh, and I was going to suggest you use the same green button CSS styling as the user job buttons for the home page link in recorded programs |
| [20:40:01] | iamlindoro: | so that it's obvious it's there |
| [20:40:55] | ThisNewGuy: | Sweet – thanks for the quick feedback! |
| [20:41:38] | iamlindoro: | np... any idea why the banners all show up as broken links? |
| [20:41:55] | ThisNewGuy: | yeah – that's weird – what browser are you using? |
| [20:41:59] | iamlindoro: | chromium |
| [20:42:08] | iamlindoro: | I'll try firefox |
| [20:42:29] | ThisNewGuy: | I noticed that IE did that in intranet mode |
| [20:42:52] | ThisNewGuy: | but when I tested in chrome 12, firefox 3 and IE 9 internet mode they all worked |
| [20:43:17] | iamlindoro: | Firefox showing no banners at all even when I know those shows have them |
| [20:43:27] | iamlindoro: | eg, "Castle" |
| [20:43:33] | ThisNewGuy: | hmm – lemme try |
| [20:43:45] | AndyCap: | Hmm, weird, all my channels except 1–9 are gone |
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| [20:45:40] | ThisNewGuy: | interesting – are you hitting a local box (e.g. "http://myth") as opposed to a full qualified domain like http://myth.mybox.com? |
| [20:45:47] | iamlindoro: | by IP |
| [20:45:56] | iamlindoro: | local box, standard in every way (port 80, etc) |
| [20:47:25] | ThisNewGuy: | weird – if I hit by IP or full name I get images, but local name I get none |
| [20:47:52] | ThisNewGuy: | uh oh – my kid's waking up – I'll play with it some more tonight and look into your other feedback as well |
| [20:47:53] | iamlindoro: | switching to hostname, same situation for me |
| [20:47:56] | iamlindoro: | thanks |
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| [20:53:05] | oobe: | hmm I use to have to use vdpaubuffersize=32 or else I would get artifacts watching some h264 content now I just tried not using it and I dont appear to get artifacts anymore is this a driver update or a myth update that appears to of fixed it |
| [20:53:29] | branden__: | Anyone know how to setup the mysql server for mythtv to log into? |
| [20:54:37] | oobe: | sounds like you need to read the users guide branden__ |
| [20:54:48] | branden__: | I am using slackware. |
| [20:54:55] | branden__: | It talks about |
| [20:55:08] | branden__: | distribution specific ways to set it up |
| [20:55:35] | branden__: | and slackware has all of the packages setup |
| [20:55:51] | branden__: | so that they are vanilla or as is from the provider. |
| [20:58:08] | oobe: | I dont really understand your question and I used to use mythtv and slackware just fine |
| [20:58:57] | branden__: | I can't get mytv to log into the mysql server I created. |
| [20:59:16] | branden__: | I created it on the same machine |
| [20:59:36] | branden__: | How do I do this? |
| [21:00:26] | oobe: | open up /etc/rc.d/rc.mysqld and comment out SKIP="--skip-networking" |
| [21:00:36] | oobe: | then restart mysqld |
| [21:01:18] | ThisNewGuy: | iamlindoro: do you see coverart – e.g. if you look up a movie like "the american" |
| [21:03:03] | branden__: | Thanks oobe I will give it a try |
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| [21:03:08] | iamlindoro: | ThisNewGuy: I need an example that I can find in my guide :) |
| [21:03:26] | oobe: | branden__, http://www.mnspace.net/articles/mythtv-slack12.1.html this page might be useful too look for sub heading titled "MySQL Configuration" |
| [21:04:01] | iamlindoro: | ThisNewGuy: Found one-- yes, coverart is working |
| [21:04:05] | iamlindoro: | so TMDB is okay |
| [21:04:32] | iamlindoro: | And makes the giganticness seem more sensible (especially if you add description and year) |
| [21:06:27] | iamlindoro: | Maybe make the title font a little smaller, and add the extra info, and it'll be just about right |
| [21:06:37] | ThisNewGuy: | I wonder why banners don't show – maybe some redirect is confusing something |
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| [21:07:05] | ThisNewGuy: | my 2 issues with the extra info were: |
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| [21:07:28] | ThisNewGuy: | 1. the descriptions can be really long (maybe truncate?) |
| [21:07:32] | branden is now known as Guest15012 | |
| [21:07:39] | iamlindoro: | yes, just limit it to a few sentences |
| [21:07:40] | Guest15012 is now known as branden__ | |
| [21:07:48] | iamlindoro: | that's enough to get the idea |
| [21:08:07] | branden__: | oobe i still can't log on to my mysql server |
| [21:08:09] | iamlindoro: | or maybe have a tooltip with the full description on mouseover |
| [21:08:12] | ThisNewGuy: | 2. I couldn't find a good layout that worked with both cover art style ( image on left) and banner style (image above) |
| [21:08:36] | ThisNewGuy: | I'll think about it some more |
| [21:08:51] | wagnerrp: | branden__: have you set up the permissions for the user/pass you are trying to use? |
| [21:08:57] | iamlindoro: | yeah... I think that we have to have some of that information |
| [21:09:03] | iamlindoro: | I am testing "titanic" right now |
| [21:09:13] | oobe: | branden__, test it manually mysql -umythtv -pmythtv-passwd -h localhost mythconverg |
| [21:09:14] | iamlindoro: | It's got six items with identical titles |
| [21:09:26] | iamlindoro: | The images help, but won't always be enough |
| [21:09:30] | iamlindoro: | and won't always be present |
| [21:09:56] | ThisNewGuy: | yeah – I agree |
| [21:10:22] | iamlindoro: | all told, though, these are minor changes-- generally speaking, 99% of this is right on the money |
| [21:10:26] | iamlindoro: | so thanks a lot for the hard work |
| [21:10:54] | branden__: | oobe, Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'localhost' |
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| [21:11:04] | ThisNewGuy: | nw – I really appreciate you adding the functionality to make it possible |
| [21:11:09] | wagnerrp: | branden__: have you set up the permissions for the user/pass you are trying to use? |
| [21:11:16] | oobe: | branden__, then you need to look at the link I gave you already |
| [21:11:48] | branden__: | You mean /etc/rc.d/rc.mysqld and comment out SKIP="--skip-networking" |
| [21:11:54] | oobe: | nope |
| [21:12:01] | wagnerrp: | the mnspace link |
| [21:12:09] | branden__: | I may have logged out before I get it. |
| [21:12:14] | wagnerrp: | scroll a third of the way down to 'mysql configuration' |
| [21:12:22] | oobe: | yea that comment out thing was only if you were using a remote ip |
| [21:12:27] | wagnerrp: | http://www.mnspace.net/articles/mythtv-slack12.1.html |
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| [21:13:29] | wagnerrp: | dont do the 'create database' thing |
| [21:13:38] | wagnerrp: | use the database creation script that comes with mythtv |
| [21:13:49] | wagnerrp: | see the linked official documentation |
| [21:17:30] | ThisNewGuy: | iamlindoro: thetvdb.com is returning a 403 when I request the banner – do they have any rules on who can request? |
| [21:18:15] | iamlindoro: | ThisNewGuy: I don't think so, whatever comes out of the lookup API works for me directly... some sort of weird proxying or something? |
| [21:18:23] | oobe: | so wagnerrp I think im gonna run up the road in a couple of hrs to get a gt520 but some threads say its not as good as gt220 in terms of using high quality vdpau profile is this just a limitation on old drivers which is probably fixed by now the wiki page claims it can do advanced x2 |
| [21:19:06] | wagnerrp: | ive heard there were some performance issues with drivers |
| [21:19:08] | ThisNewGuy: | i bet it sees that the referrer is a local box and denies it |
| [21:19:13] | wagnerrp: | i dont know if they have been resolved at this time |
| [21:19:31] | oobe: | ah so I really want a gt220 again that is silent and fanless then |
| [21:19:40] | oobe: | pity they are harder to find |
| [21:19:53] | iamlindoro: | ThisNewGuy: hmm, dunno |
| [21:20:04] | wagnerrp: | a 520 SHOULD work |
| [21:20:16] | wagnerrp: | and nvidia is generally good at fixing issues in linux drivers |
| [21:21:22] | wagnerrp: | you can try a fanless 430 |
| [21:21:30] | wagnerrp: | which will be a significant jump in performance |
| [21:21:39] | branden__: | What is GID? |
| [21:21:39] | wagnerrp: | but will be more expensive |
| [21:21:59] | wagnerrp: | can we have some context? |
| [21:22:07] | oobe: | yea the difference in price at my local stores is only $7 |
| [21:22:07] | iamlindoro: | Group ID |
| [21:22:18] | oobe: | but what I like is the power savings in 520 |
| [21:22:28] | oobe: | electricity is expensive in australia |
| [21:22:35] | wagnerrp: | yeah, the 430 will use as much power as the 220 |
| [21:22:50] | oobe: | we just got a new carbon emissions tax too |
| [21:22:51] | branden__: | Well Australia is land locked |
| [21:23:09] | iamlindoro: | Australia is water locked |
| [21:23:13] | wagnerrp: | branden__: youve got that backwards |
| [21:23:17] | branden__: | That is what I mean |
| [21:23:20] | wagnerrp: | landlocked means they have NO access to the see |
| [21:23:24] | wagnerrp: | they are surrounded by land |
| [21:23:27] | wagnerrp: | sea |
| [21:23:28] | oobe: | um australia is the biggest exporter of coal in the southern hemisphere |
| [21:23:32] | oobe: | so that is no the issue |
| [21:23:45] | oobe: | its the environmental concerns |
| [21:23:46] | branden__: | the tax is |
| [21:23:51] | branden__: | I call bull |
| [21:24:07] | branden__: | on the carbon tax |
| [21:24:15] | wagnerrp: | carbon tax? |
| [21:24:26] | wagnerrp: | i didnt think any country had actually implemented such a thing |
| [21:24:40] | oobe: | yea its only new |
| [21:24:57] | oobe: | but our electricity was already expensive before |
| [21:25:59] | ThisNewGuy: | iamlindoro: ttvdb.com doesn't allow image hotlinking – that's the issue – I guess we need to dl and save or figure out something tricky |
| [21:26:04] | branden__: | There is a rumor that with the carbon tax they can charge us for exhaling CO2 |
| [21:26:23] | wagnerrp: | any politician who comes up with such a thing should be shot |
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| [21:26:28] | wagnerrp: | ... for the good of the environment |
| [21:27:04] | branden__: | Did you know that green house gases really don't ever warm the earth, only cool it. |
| [21:27:44] | wagnerrp: | they increase our albedo and decrease our emissivity |
| [21:27:50] | iamlindoro: | ThisNewGuy: Hmm, maybe kormoc will have a suggestion for how best to implement that |
| [21:28:10] | wagnerrp: | less light comes in, less light goes out, for a net increase in heat |
| [21:28:20] | ** sphery wonders how wagnerrp knew exactly when ppc build would finish ** | |
| [21:28:33] | wagnerrp: | stopwatch |
| [21:28:34] | sphery: | Is wagnerrp a PPC? |
| [21:28:45] | sphery: | ah, thought maybe you /were/ the buildbot |
| [21:28:49] | branden__: | wagnerrp, I have an example |
| [21:28:59] | wagnerrp: | check the waterfall, you can see the build logs in real time |
| [21:29:10] | wagnerrp: | it was a couple of files off from the one that causes the error |
| [21:29:22] | iamlindoro: | ThisNewGuy: failing that, it would be okay just to not return images for TV for now |
| [21:29:35] | ThisNewGuy: | I bet we could dl via ajax so it's in the cache and then link to the image |
| [21:29:36] | iamlindoro: | but obviously the more polished, the better :) |
| [21:29:36] | branden__: | never mind, though this global warming scandal has to stop. |
| [21:30:03] | wagnerrp: | branden__: what scandal? the world is warming up |
| [21:30:11] | sphery: | wagnerrp: heh, Australia is the country where an entrepreneur is setting up a new business of selling carbon credits to companies. He's creating the carbon credits by hunting kangaroos. |
| [21:30:26] | ThisNewGuy: | yup – i'm running on https so no referrer headers so mayber we could just get everyone to run https? :p |
| [21:30:32] | sphery: | er, no, camels |
| [21:30:34] | AndyCap: | sphery: oh noes, skippy! |
| [21:30:37] | AndyCap: | :) |
| [21:30:40] | sphery: | (and maybe some kangaroos) |
| [21:30:45] | sphery: | http://ecocentric.blogs.time.com/2011/06/10/a . . . bon-credits/ |
| [21:30:49] | wagnerrp: | would that be jumpy? |
| [21:30:50] | AndyCap: | sphery: what ever hits his bumper? |
| [21:31:10] | sphery: | actually plans to have a fleet of helicopters out there "mining" credits |
| [21:31:22] | branden__: | The earth will warm and cool naturally. |
| [21:31:47] | wagnerrp: | branden__: that is correct, and it is a fact that the earth is in a warming trend |
| [21:32:01] | AndyCap: | branden__: unfortunately that may have huge effect on the creatures living on the earth |
| [21:32:04] | branden__: | sunspots |
| [21:32:16] | branden__: | have some to do with this |
| [21:32:19] | sphery: | wagnerrp: but you're forgetting the mini ice age that's just starting |
| [21:32:33] | wagnerrp: | sphery: actually, its just ending |
| [21:32:33] | sphery: | (which is the sunspots thing--and by "just starting" I mean that some say is starting) |
| [21:32:39] | wagnerrp: | it started back in the 1700s |
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| [21:33:36] | branden__: | http://capnbob.us/blog/2006/08/26/correlating . . . bal-climate/ |
| [21:34:37] | sphery: | + http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/06/14/ice_age/ |
| [21:35:29] | sphery: | can't find the actual article/announcement from US National Solar Observator and US Air Force Research Laboratory |
| [21:35:40] | wagnerrp: | branden__: im not arguing with you about the point youre intending to make |
| [21:35:48] | wagnerrp: | im arguing over what youre actually saying |
| [21:35:56] | wagnerrp: | global warming is not a scandal |
| [21:35:56] | branden__: | ? |
| [21:36:02] | sphery: | http://www.nso.edu/press/SolarActivityDrop.html |
| [21:36:09] | wagnerrp: | at least no among any scientific circles |
| [21:36:13] | wagnerrp: | the earth is warming |
| [21:36:13] | branden__: | i mean it has much to do with sunspots |
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| [21:36:18] | wagnerrp: | the debate is over what is causing it |
| [21:36:23] | sphery: | agreed, there |
| [21:36:25] | wagnerrp: | and whether we are having any significant affect |
| [21:36:38] | branden__: | I bet you when the earth starts to cool from lack of spots they are going to say are efforts worked. |
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| [21:38:59] | branden__: | The best part about ice ages are that they prove man kind has not killed as much wild life as nature does. |
| [21:40:34] | branden__: | I am done messing around with science and politics |
| [21:40:48] | branden__: | for now. |
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| [21:41:55] | stuartm: | honestly we cannot be sure of the truth one way or the other for the simple fact that climate scientists get funding to prove man made climate change, they don't get it for disproving it |
| [21:42:30] | stuartm: | the recent Cern announcement for example shows just how scared many scientists really are of publishing data which goes against the man-made theory |
| [21:42:44] | wagnerrp: | thats not true |
| [21:42:50] | wagnerrp: | funding comes from both sides |
| [21:43:19] | wagnerrp: | the issue is that politics get involved, and any studies that show maybe we arent involved get derided as being falsified in order to prove the point of the funder |
| [21:43:21] | stuartm: | not the significant government funding |
| [21:43:38] | stuartm: | because politicians are now pretty invested in the whole mess |
| [21:44:10] | wagnerrp: | right |
| [21:44:22] | wagnerrp: | its politically better to be 'for the environment' |
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| [21:45:51] | wagnerrp: | its like a study paid for by a tobacco company saying second hand smoke isnt that bad |
| [21:46:07] | wagnerrp: | anyone who is anti-smoking is going to say the study is fraudulent |
| [21:46:19] | wagnerrp: | there is no longer any objectivity |
| [21:46:25] | stuartm: | well, to appear to be for the environment, which isn't always the same thing – hence governments backing schemes which are actually detrimental and ineffective because on face value they are 'green' |
| [21:48:41] | stuartm: | my personal opinion is hardly unbiased, I studied Geology at uni and it was safe to say that back then geologists collectively laughed at the whole man-made 'global warming' hype |
| [21:49:00] | AndyCap: | sphery: and then they lost funding? |
| [21:50:26] | stuartm: | climate scientists (where did they all come from??) at least back then were studying records (of dubious quality) dating back a couple of centuries, geologists were looking at climate going back millions of years |
| [21:50:52] | stuartm: | so those two groups had wildly varying ideas of what was 'normal' |
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| [21:51:56] | branden__: | I am not sure what to do about, useradd mythtv Creating mailbox file: File exists |
| [21:52:16] | wagnerrp: | any geologist will tell you 'normal' is well above where we are currently |
| [21:52:38] | stuartm: | my first year we got told the how Greenland actually was green back when the vikings arrived there and how grapes were grown as far north as Scotland within written history |
| [21:52:55] | wagnerrp: | stuartm: well thats false |
| [21:53:05] | wagnerrp: | iceland was green, greenland was garbage |
| [21:53:22] | wagnerrp: | it was called greenland to entice people to follow lief erikson in search of adventure |
| [21:53:23] | branden__: | Not to be rude but hec* yeah |
| [21:53:57] | stuartm: | wagnerrp: it wasn't called Greenland because it was green, but the coastal areas were free of ice |
| [21:54:33] | wagnerrp: | simon hobson, you foolish man |
| [21:54:57] | branden__: | I think he means where the ice ends on the ocean |
| [21:56:07] | stuartm: | on the flip side a little under 150 years ago the Thames in London froze over so thick for the whole winter period that shops and fairs were held on it, the thames hasn't frozen over even an inch in living memory ... |
| [21:57:27] | branden__: | You mean 1960? |
| [21:57:37] | branden__: | something |
| [21:58:11] | branden__: | wagnerrp, Can you help me with this though? |
| [21:58:16] | sphery: | stuartm: yeah, that's the Maunder Minimum--which is what NRO and AFRL are saying we may have a repeat of within the next 10yrs |
| [21:58:16] | ** iamlindoro wonders if branden__ is visting from 2111 ** | |
| [21:58:33] | stuartm: | the state of Greenland actually isn't that important, I'm certainly not going to dig out old lecture notes and textbooks to argue the point, let's just agree that the world/seas were certainly considerably warmer than they are today |
| [21:58:50] | wagnerrp: | branden__: i dont know what would cause useradd to fail in such a manner |
| [21:58:54] | branden__: | iamlindoro, Ello chap. |
| [21:59:00] | wagnerrp: | however thats really more of a distro issue |
| [21:59:15] | branden__: | sigh |
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| [22:00:16] | stuartm: | sphery: yup, the maunder minimums and the 11,000 cycles were a heavy part of the palaeontology related courses |
| [22:00:30] | stuartm: | not that I remember much anymore |
| [22:00:31] | wagnerrp: | to be honest, i dont actually use useradd to add users to my systems |
| [22:00:38] | ** branden__ says crap. Later that night gets up and smashes head into wall and misses stud. ** | |
| [22:00:53] | ** branden__ there by putting a hole in the wall. ** | |
| [22:01:15] | wagnerrp: | my 'distro' of choice uses pw instead |
| [22:02:07] | sphery: | wagnerrp: useradd doesn't seem to be failing--it's just saying there's already a mail file for that user |
| [22:02:15] | sphery: | (or it's failing because there's a mail file for that user) |
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| [22:02:37] | branden__: | bash-4.1# ls /home/ |
| [22:02:37] | branden__: | branden ftp |
| [22:02:38] | branden__: | bash-4.1# |
| [22:02:40] | sphery: | branden__: what do you get for: groups mythtv |
| [22:02:44] | branden__: | sorry for the spam. |
| [22:02:59] | sphery: | probably (based on that) "No such user" |
| [22:03:09] | branden__: | mythtv:x:1001: |
| [22:03:19] | sphery: | so you have a user... doesn't have any home dir |
| [22:03:37] | branden__: | pretty much. |
| [22:03:44] | sphery: | perhaps userdel, then another useradd (and specify 1001 for uid/gid)? |
| [22:03:54] | branden__: | Triad userdel |
| [22:03:58] | sphery: | though be careful as userdel will delete files |
| [22:04:03] | jams: | if you use userdel add -r so it cfully removes the user |
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| [22:04:08] | stuartm: | btw, Simon Hobson? |
| [22:04:24] | branden__: | The file was not there before or after. |
| [22:04:37] | wagnerrp: | stuartm: having troubles running a backend under Xen on a 1.3GHz athlon |
| [22:04:39] | sphery: | branden__: mail file is likely in /var/spool or some such |
| [22:04:43] | sphery: | (not home dir) |
| [22:04:58] | branden__: | Not what I mean ! |
| [22:05:11] | branden__: | !meaning of what I was saying. |
| [22:05:32] | sphery: | wagnerrp: what, even with magic virtualization? |
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| [22:06:01] | branden__: | ls /var/spool/mail/ |
| [22:06:01] | branden__: | branden mythtv root |
| [22:06:03] | ** sphery wonders if perhaps the buzz may be a bit overhyped ** | |
| [22:06:09] | branden__: | again sorry for the spam. |
| [22:06:15] | stuartm: | wagnerrp: heh, ok |
| [22:06:24] | sphery: | branden__: yeah, that mythtv is likely why it's failing |
| [22:06:44] | branden__: | rm it is. |
| [22:06:45] | sphery: | and, IMHO, 2 lines of paste isn't spam... 3 borders on spam. 4 is spam. :) |
| [22:06:51] | stuartm: | the second fe/be I ever built used a 1.4Ghz Athlon (Thunderbird iirc) |
| [22:07:07] | sphery: | but thanks for actually considering whether it is :) |
| [22:07:44] | wagnerrp: | stuartm: actually, its a dual core ath64 neo |
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| [22:07:51] | sphery: | after all, if you type as fast as wagnerrp, you could type out 2–3 lines of stuff fast enough it would look like pasting... |
| [22:07:57] | stuartm: | it would probably still be running as a BE if I didn't a crap about it using considerably more power than a modern processor yet running at a fraction of the speed |
| [22:08:09] | jams: | sphery- thats only when his keyboard sticks |
| [22:08:15] | wagnerrp: | meaning... it it has about as much single threaded performance as a 1.7GHz thunderbird |
| [22:08:16] | sphery: | heh, yeah, especially then |
| [22:08:29] | sphery: | but also when someone asks a question and I'm typing an answer to it |
| [22:08:35] | wagnerrp: | jams: what are you taaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalking about? |
| [22:08:35] | branden__: | useradd still fails in creating the home directory file maybe I should use su - |
| [22:08:45] | wagnerrp: | f-! |
| [22:08:58] | sphery: | heh |
| [22:09:10] | sphery: | was that planned or just good/bad coincidence? |
| [22:09:20] | wagnerrp: | planned |
| [22:09:25] | branden__: | I think it is slackware that is doing it. |
| [22:09:33] | sphery: | heh, you sold the coincidence thing with your 2nd line |
| [22:09:35] | stuartm: | sphery: now you've made him explain the joke |
| [22:10:00] | sphery: | yeah, that's why they won't let me in the comedy club, anymore |
| [22:10:13] | branden__: | I might as well run the backend as root |
| [22:11:16] | branden__: | can I pretend to curse by using a bunch of *'s? |
| [22:11:42] | branden__: | as in *********** |
| [22:12:35] | sphery: | according to Penn & Teller, no--that's just as bad |
| [22:12:53] | branden__: | who are those two? |
| [22:12:54] | stuartm: | branden__: no need to be star struck in our presence |
| [22:13:34] | branden__: | according to me crap is better. |
| [22:13:44] | branden__: | gigady |
| [22:13:55] | branden__: | ^ that to |
| [22:14:49] | branden__: | Well slackware has failed me. |
| [22:14:54] | sphery: | branden__: http://www.tv.com/penn-andamp-teller-bullsh!/ . . . summary.html |
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| [22:15:25] | branden__: | I have slow internet. |
| [22:15:50] | sphery: | It's a TV Show. Penn & Teller are magicians and performers. |
| [22:15:50] | ThisNewGuy: | iamlindoro: I have a fix to proxy thetvdb.com through the server if you're not running HTTPS which should solve the issue (though be a little slow); where was metadata misspelled? |
| [22:16:17] | ctmjr: | or perhaps you have failed slackware |
| [22:16:22] | [R]: | sphery: so i rmmebered why i wanted that power off button... i can't wait for 0.25 |
| [22:16:42] | branden__: | shush and its useradd for slackware not adduser |
| [22:17:43] | sphery: | branden__: that particular episode ridiculed people who claim to never swear, but just use alternative words with the same intensity, tone, and meaning of the actual curse words |
| [22:17:51] | wagnerrp: | if you feel the need to curse, clearly you are not embracing the idioms of slackware |
| [22:17:56] | stuartm: | sometimes I can actually see the point of apps like drakuser |
| [22:18:10] | sphery: | [R]: so what's it for? |
| [22:18:37] | branden__: | I don't need to curse just use curse like terms |
| [22:18:37] | [R]: | sphery: i use irexec to catch the powerbutton |
| [22:18:43] | [R]: | sphery: now i dont need irexec anymore |
| [22:18:44] | wagnerrp: | when hes watching porn and the wife/boss/kids come in |
| [22:18:57] | [R]: | wagnerrp: HAHA |
| [22:19:03] | branden__: | ? |
| [22:19:48] | sphery: | I know I'm setting up Ctrl+Esc as EXIT and not mapping it to a remote button, and setting up Alt+Esc as EXITPROMPT and putting that on my remote--then when I'm doing maintenance, I can Ctrl+Esc to exit mythfrontend when the TV is off without having to hope I'm selecting the right button in the "Are you sure" prompt |
| [22:20:23] | branden__: | Have you ever tried to stop you addiction [R]? |
| [22:20:29] | sphery: | [R]: ah, so having power button be different from, say, the stop button? |
| [22:20:32] | [R]: | branden__: which addiction? |
| [22:20:46] | [R]: | sphery: i dont have a stop button |
| [22:20:58] | [R]: | i just have "exit" |
| [22:20:58] | branden__: | The one that can't be mentioned in polite company |
| [22:21:00] | wagnerrp: | [R]: the one to cheese wiz |
| [22:21:01] | [R]: | which is escape |
| [22:21:07] | [R]: | branden__: what? |
| [22:21:07] | iamlindoro: | ThisNewGuy: one of the instances of "Metadata home page" |
| [22:21:13] | [R]: | wagnerrp: that stuff sounds gross... never had it |
| [22:21:20] | wagnerrp: | put the spray can down |
| [22:21:35] | branden__: | gigady |
| [22:22:08] | ctmjr: | philly cheese steak without cheese wiz is just a sandwich |
| [22:22:14] | [R]: | sphery: what happens if you do EXIT while playing somehting? does it prompt you like if you exited out of a recording or does it just exit? |
| [22:22:50] | stuartm: | cheese does not belong in a spray can |
| [22:23:18] | branden__: | I own a bulldog you own a german shepherd now what does that have to do with cheating on your wife |
| [22:23:19] | wagnerrp: | no one ever said it was cheese |
| [22:23:37] | iamlindoro: | ThisNewGuy: the delay *should* be relatively trivial, and we're talking about very tiny images anyway |
| [22:23:38] | wagnerrp: | woah woah... cheating on your wife? |
| [22:23:42] | wagnerrp: | what are you talking about? |
| [22:23:56] | sphery: | [R]: EXIT and EXITPROMPT are both in the Main Menu context (i.e. you can only exit from the main menu) |
| [22:24:01] | branden__: | I was trying to quote a movie but epicly failed |
| [22:24:19] | [R]: | sphery: ah, hrm... theres a key to get to the main menu right? |
| [22:24:22] | iamlindoro: | stuartm: heh, amusingly it's referred to as "cheese product" or "cheese food" on the can to avoid calling it cheese, since in a strict sense, it isn't |
| [22:24:32] | sphery: | I think there's a jump point that can do that |
| [22:24:45] | [R]: | i wonder if that causes the "exit recording" prompt |
| [22:24:53] | branden__: | couples retreat to be exact |
| [22:25:13] | sphery: | [R]: yeah, the appropriately-named "Main Menu" jump point goes to main menu |
| [22:25:44] | sphery: | [R]: and, yeah, right now, if you have action on playback exit set to prompt, any jump point will get "queued" until you exit the recording |
| [22:26:07] | sphery: | (actually, it will prompt, and if you choose to not exit, it will still be stuck in the queue) |
| [22:26:19] | [R]: | i should probably just disable that option |
| [22:26:22] | [R]: | and set it to always save |
| [22:26:27] | sphery: | so when you do exit, you go to the main menu instead of watch recordings |
| [22:27:01] | branden__: | Is there anyone here with internet so fast they can watch 1080p real time, because I can barley watch 360 half real time |
| [22:27:02] | sphery: | yeah, I plan to eventually make that one similar to the exit button, but have to figure out how to do it since you may exit without a key press |
| [22:27:17] | branden__: | sorry |
| [22:27:21] | iamlindoro: | 1080p is just a resolution, the only thing that is relevant is bitrate |
| [22:27:55] | sphery: | [R]: note, also, there's a TV Playback/EXITSHOWNOPROMPTS key binding that exits playback of the show without the prompt |
| [22:28:12] | stuartm: | iamlindoro: it's deeply ironic that British/English cuisine is so frequently mocked in American film and tv when the US is home to products such as Cheese Wiz, Hershey's, Twinkies and Sunny Delight |
| [22:28:13] | branden__: | I am talking about 5 megabytes per second verses 100kbs a second |
| [22:28:14] | sphery: | granted, you'd need to hit that, then the main menu jump point, then the exit key to get out of mythtv |
| [22:28:17] | [R]: | sphery: oh, interesting |
| [22:28:29] | branden__: | I mean kBs |
| [22:28:33] | [R]: | sphery: i can map multiple keys to my keys |
| [22:28:43] | sphery: | btw, it's Cheese Whiz... as if the cheese took a... nvm |
| [22:28:44] | wagnerrp: | 5MBps is not that hard to come by in many areas of the world |
| [22:28:51] | iamlindoro: | stuartm: heh, luckily as a nation of immigrants we've inherited the best of the world along with the worst |
| [22:29:00] | wagnerrp: | and 100Kbps is not even considered high speed internet in most areas of the world |
| [22:29:00] | stuartm: | iamlindoro: aye, that's true |
| [22:29:07] | branden__: | wagnerrp, I can't play anything on you past 360p |
| [22:29:18] | branden__: | you = youtube |
| [22:29:28] | wagnerrp: | sure you can, you just have to wait for it to preload |
| [22:29:39] | branden__: | No I can't. |
| [22:29:42] | sphery: | heh, youtube = flash = extremely inefficient |
| [22:29:44] | branden__: | I am not that patient |
| [22:29:50] | wagnerrp: | if you mean 100KBps, instead of 100Kbps |
| [22:29:53] | sphery: | ah, you mean bandwidth... nvm |
| [22:29:57] | branden__: | Yeah |
| [22:30:02] | wagnerrp: | i had 100KBps download speeds back in the late '90s |
| [22:30:04] | branden__: | In some parts of the US |
| [22:30:21] | branden__: | You can get 10MB/s for $50 a month. |
| [22:30:43] | branden__: | I really loved when I lived there. |
| [22:30:47] | iamlindoro: | M*bit*, not M*Byte* |
| [22:30:52] | iamlindoro: | little b |
| [22:30:53] | branden__: | I mean byte |
| [22:30:56] | iamlindoro: | no, you don't |
| [22:31:03] | wagnerrp: | 50Mbps is not that uncommon |
| [22:31:10] | wagnerrp: | anything higher than that is rare |
| [22:31:11] | branden__: | I could download slackware 13.1 in 12 minutes |
| [22:31:19] | branden__: | or less |
| [22:31:23] | iamlindoro: | Which is not 10 Megabytes per second |
| [22:31:26] | wagnerrp: | and i doubt you could manage it for $50/mo |
| [22:31:34] | branden__: | discount |
| [22:31:50] | branden__: | It was a bundle thing |
| [22:32:07] | wagnerrp: | 10MBps for 12 minutes is nearly a full dual layer DVD |
| [22:32:12] | branden__: | tv/phone/internet for $100 a month. |
| [22:32:35] | branden__: | I did not say it didn't fluctuate |
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| [22:33:01] | branden__: | When people accessed the unencrypted wifi. |
| [22:33:43] | branden__: | facebook and a slackware download really can take a bandwidth toll. |
| [22:33:57] | branden__: | can really not really can* |
| [22:34:06] | wagnerrp: | even on the most graphically intense sites, youre talking about maybe a MB for a page |
| [22:34:40] | wagnerrp: | no single person browsing would make much of a dent against an 80Mbps pipe |
| [22:34:41] | branden__: | Not when you can't stop the neighborhood leachers. |
| [22:34:55] | branden__: | I mean leaches |
| [22:35:01] | wagnerrp: | thats why you limit the throughput on the open wireless |
| [22:35:07] | wagnerrp: | or... not have open wireless |
| [22:35:28] | wagnerrp: | there was very likely some clause in your ISP contract that prevented you from running open wireless anyway |
| [22:35:46] | branden__: | Does not mean I listened. |
| [22:35:52] | branden__: | Or read it. |
| [22:36:10] | wagnerrp: | so if youre calling neighborhood users leechers |
| [22:36:17] | wagnerrp: | generally that means you did not appreciate them |
| [22:36:24] | wagnerrp: | so why would you want to run open wireless? |
| [22:36:59] | wagnerrp: | all it does is open you up to significant risk should someone discover such high speed access, and use it for nefarious purposes |
| [22:38:22] | wagnerrp: | and the 'i didnt do it, someone on my unencrypted wifi did' is not a viable defense |
| [22:38:44] | StevenR: | hmmm. How do I see if my myth backend is sending upnp stuff? Is there a way to check if it's enabled? |
| [22:38:57] | wagnerrp: | even if its true, youre still out all your computer hardware for months with no recourse, as it gets analyzed by authorities |
| [22:39:11] | wagnerrp: | StevenR: check 'netstat' and see if mythtv is listening on port 1900 |
| [22:39:54] | StevenR: | wagnerrp: I see udp 0 0 239.255.255.250:1900 0.0.0.0:* 20408/mythbackend |
| [22:40:02] | wagnerrp: | thats upnp |
| [22:40:08] | StevenR: | wagnerrp: so if I run a upnp client, then it should pick it up? |
| [22:40:21] | wagnerrp: | yes |
| [22:42:48] | branden__: | Well when you have to manage people in your house that don't want to have security stuff, because it "gets in there way" you are forced to use unencrypted. |
| [22:43:09] | branden__: | also "security suff"* |
| [22:43:17] | branden__: | I mean stuff |
| [22:43:21] | wagnerrp: | you tell them 'too bad, you use encrypted or you dont get internet' |
| [22:43:44] | wagnerrp: | even my ancient 3com card from 2003 can do WPA2 |
| [22:44:21] | branden__: | This was a while ago not any more since the economy became crap. |
| [22:44:38] | branden__: | i am talking the high speed part. |
| [22:45:10] | wagnerrp: | what does the economy have to do with anything? |
| [22:45:13] | branden__: | and the place where I live |
| [22:45:47] | branden__: | never mind that though. |
| [22:46:17] | wagnerrp: | there is nothing preventing anyone from running WPA |
| [22:46:34] | wagnerrp: | there is no reason why anyone wouldnt have their system encrypted as such |
| [22:47:11] | branden__: | Well i am out numbered by the computer illiterate democracy here. |
| [22:47:25] | wagnerrp: | then you configure their machines for them |
| [22:47:33] | wagnerrp: | or you document how to set it up themselves |
| [22:48:32] | branden__: | ok then. |
| [22:49:05] | branden__: | I do however want to know about a windows virus rumor |
| [22:49:42] | branden__: | There has been chatter about a worm that can infect windows computers over wifi from the source computer. |
| [22:50:06] | iamlindoro: | what does this have to do with MythTV? |
| [22:50:17] | wagnerrp: | what does this have to do with wifi? |
| [22:50:19] | branden__: | It slows down encoding. |
| [22:50:45] | iamlindoro: | No. this is irrevelant. Stay on topic. |
| [22:50:53] | branden__: | dang |
| [22:50:55] | wagnerrp: | if you have a virus, then your primary concern is you have a virus |
| [22:51:07] | wagnerrp: | who cares if it slows down your computer |
| [22:51:13] | wagnerrp: | you shouldnt be using that computer until you clear it off |
| [22:51:35] | branden__: | ok then. |
| [22:52:37] | branden__: | Well I am going to have to switch linux distobutions on this computer |
| [22:52:54] | branden__: | distributions* |
| [22:53:07] | wagnerrp: | the only way a virus could spread through wifi is if it were specifically bundled with a tool to automatically crack wifi encryption, after which it would still have to spread through some other vector |
| [22:53:33] | wagnerrp: | and its all irrelevant towards mythtv, since wifi doesnt have the bandwidth to push HD video |
| [22:53:55] | branden__: | double ahh |
| [22:54:00] | branden__: | ok then |
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| [22:58:51] | iamlindoro: | Haha, this show "Deadliest Warrior" on Spike is hilarious... pits two groups or warriors against one another and analyzes who would win in a fight. So this episode is the US revolutionary Continental Army versus The French Grand Armee... and the "simulated" faceoff at the end ends with George Washington personally stabbing Napoleon Bonaparte to death |
| [22:59:17] | tgm4883: | iamlindoro, go USA? |
| [22:59:17] | iamlindoro: | irrespective of the fact that they lived decades apart |
| [22:59:24] | iamlindoro: | tgm4883: f*** yeah! |
| [22:59:26] | iamlindoro: | ;) |
| [23:00:02] | wagnerrp: | iamlindoro: besides, everyone knows Washington would have run over Bonaparte with his 2010 Challanger |
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| [23:00:32] | StevenR: | wagnerrp: thanks, upnp appears to be working a bit |
| [23:00:36] | iamlindoro: | heh, that was a good commercial, though |
| [23:01:57] | wagnerrp: | say what you may about dodge quality, thats a purty car |
| [23:04:12] | Twiggy2cents: | wagnerrp, I agree. I think chrysler quality sucks on all but their flagship and luxuryish vehicles |
| [23:04:54] | Twiggy2cents: | Basically the only good ones are the Ram the non base model 300 Pacifica Challenger. |
| [23:04:59] | Twiggy2cents: | I think that may be it |
| [23:06:13] | iamlindoro: | The new Charger was right sexy |
| [23:06:20] | iamlindoro: | knowing nothing of the QC on it |
| [23:06:51] | Twiggy2cents: | Meh, I think it is a glorified grocery getter. But then again the original was too. |
| [23:07:16] | wagnerrp: | i dont know, i never really liked the current dodge grill |
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| [23:08:13] | wagnerrp: | its like its too big up front |
| [23:08:39] | Twiggy2cents: | bold is the new sleek |
| [23:09:13] | wagnerrp: | and theres too much going on |
| [23:09:45] | wagnerrp: | theres the upper grill with the standard dodge cross, theres the lower grill, here are two sets of lights, all sorts of funky curves |
| [23:10:11] | wagnerrp: | the challanger is plain and clean |
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| [23:11:07] | wagnerrp: | its like the viper |
| [23:11:20] | wagnerrp: | the original viper was beautiful, just a very clean car |
| [23:11:29] | wagnerrp: | then they added more aerodynamics to it |
| [23:11:30] | wagnerrp: | and vents |
| [23:11:33] | wagnerrp: | and fins |
| [23:11:34] | wagnerrp: | and ports |
| [23:11:43] | wagnerrp: | and they uglied the whole thing up |
| [23:12:23] | wagnerrp: | the '08-'10 viper was a butt ugly car |
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| [23:13:06] | Shadow__X: | using transcode auto detect keeps erroring out. within the logs i see warning partial frame found also i see a failed to decode fram position was 0 |
| [23:13:45] | wagnerrp: | theres a handful of tickets open on trac related to transcoding |
| [23:14:29] | Shadow__X: | wagnerrp: most of dodges are chunky cars (they weigh too much |
| [23:14:38] | Shadow__X: | ok will check that out |
| [23:15:02] | Shadow__X: | transcoding has been working for me though up until i hit this issue |
| [23:16:44] | branden__: | Is fadora any good, for multimedia? Considering they don't include anything proprietary. |
| [23:17:13] | wagnerrp: | they dont? i thought that was debian |
| [23:19:13] | sid3windr: | fedora is worse :p |
| [23:19:31] | sid3windr: | I don't think debian actually leaves out the mp3 codec |
| [23:19:36] | sid3windr: | where fedora does |
| [23:20:20] | branden__: | What is a good distro for mythtv, that still allows me to have some functionality of the desktop? |
| [23:20:45] | wagnerrp: | gentoo |
| [23:21:17] | branden__: | I have a gentoo machine but it takes me days to set it up because of my internet. |
| [23:21:36] | branden__: | At one time I had fast internet I no longer do. |
| [23:21:38] | wagnerrp: | its a loaded question |
| [23:21:45] | branden__: | ? |
| [23:21:48] | wagnerrp: | the easiest machine to configure mythtv on is the one youre used to |
| [23:21:54] | wagnerrp: | for me, thats gentoo |
| [23:22:03] | wagnerrp: | for sidewinder, thats apparently fedora |
| [23:22:13] | branden__: | I have had 2 gentoo boxes at one time I think |
| [23:22:31] | branden__: | My main gentoo box, is broken. |
| [23:22:47] | branden__: | Some xfce update screwed it up. |
| [23:23:25] | StevenR: | hrrm. how do I tell myth-backend where it's music is :S |
| [23:24:09] | wagnerrp: | you tell mythfrontend where its music is |
| [23:24:27] | wagnerrp: | if the xml server in mythbackend can find music in the same location, so be it |
| [23:25:05] | StevenR: | wagnerrp: I'd like to tell mythbackend where it is, so I can access it via upnp |
| [23:25:32] | branden__: | wagnerrp, Maybe mythbuntu? |
| [23:25:34] | wagnerrp: | yes, you tell mythfrontend where it is, using mythmusic |
| [23:25:46] | StevenR: | wagnerrp: but the frontend doesn't load the mythmusic plugin |
| [23:25:51] | wagnerrp: | the upnp server will attempt to access it where ever mythmusic's tables say it is |
| [23:25:58] | branden__: | wagnerrp, but is it functional? |
| [23:26:02] | wagnerrp: | of course the frontend loads the upnp plugin |
| [23:26:08] | wagnerrp: | s/upnp/music/ |
| [23:26:14] | wagnerrp: | all plugins are loaded by the frontend |
| [23:26:20] | StevenR: | 2011-07–25 00:25:17.796 Plugin mythmusic (0.24.20101129–1) binary version does not match libraries (0.24.20110505–1) |
| [23:26:54] | wagnerrp: | StevenR: then apparently you are running some three month old development frontend, against release plugins |
| [23:27:03] | wagnerrp: | branden__: many people use mythbuntu, yes |
| [23:27:12] | branden__: | wagnerrp, but is it functional? |
| [23:27:21] | wagnerrp: | is what functional? |
| [23:27:57] | branden__: | Will it do what ubuntu does where you have to update it every release or get left behind? |
| [23:28:05] | sid3windr: | wagnerrp: no, I run myth on debian exclusively ;) |
| [23:28:13] | sid3windr: | no fedora for me, phew ;) |
| [23:28:34] | branden__: | sid3windr, If I am correct debian installs are 25gigs |
| [23:28:43] | wagnerrp: | branden__: in the same way as ubuntu, yes |
| [23:28:50] | sid3windr: | I'm afraid debian installs are closer to 400MB |
| [23:28:53] | wagnerrp: | meaning the previous two versions are maintained |
| [23:28:56] | sid3windr: | you may be confusing it with fedora;) |
| [23:29:07] | wagnerrp: | as well as the long term service releases done every other year |
| [23:29:12] | branden__: | one second. while I google the matter |
| [23:31:03] | branden__: | I think there are like 5–7 install dvds on the full version. |
| [23:31:49] | sid3windr: | certainly, if you like installing 180000 packages :) |
| [23:32:00] | wagnerrp: | surely there isnt 25GB of data even available to install on linux |
| [23:32:18] | sid3windr: | maybe 3 source dvds :) |
| [23:32:57] | wagnerrp: | maybe if you were getting git repos of the source DVDs |
| [23:33:07] | branden__: | sid3windr, So the full install with the full version is 25Gb? |
| [23:33:08] | wagnerrp: | rather than just a tarball of the latest version |
| [23:33:45] | sid3windr: | branden__: I never even thought of installing all possible available packages, what on earth would posess you to install over 60 text editors, 18 office suites, 95 sound editing programs and 40 window managers? |
| [23:33:49] | sid3windr: | not to mention the 175K other programs |
| [23:34:03] | StevenR: | wagnerrp: It must be some strange packaing issue on this machine then. My other frontend works fine and I can configure it to point to the right location :) |
| [23:34:15] | sid3windr: | *600 text editors |
| [23:34:44] | branden__: | What is the debian base like? |
| [23:35:21] | branden__: | scratch that |
| [23:35:31] | sid3windr: | :) |
| [23:35:32] | ** sid3windr zzz ** | |
| [23:35:44] | branden__: | What is the best way to configure it? |
| [23:35:48] | branden__: | to you I mean. |
| [23:36:58] | branden__: | You know in bulk the debian full install can compete with windows 7 |
| [23:37:54] | Shadow__X: | wagnerrp: the tickets on trac are about lossless transcoding? |
| [23:38:12] | wagnerrp: | some are, some arent |
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| [23:43:57] | branden__: | Simple question |
| [23:44:31] | branden__: | Is on average encoding faster with 64 bit opposed to 32 bit? |
| [23:45:15] | wagnerrp: | should be marginally faster on 64-bit |
| [23:45:27] | branden__: | marginally? |
| [23:45:28] | iamlindoro: | A properly configured mythtv system should never need to perform encoding in CPU |
| [23:45:38] | Shadow__X: | i count 3 between .24 and .24.1 . 9870 deals with trancoding a recording a second time which i am not doing . 9662 seems to deal only with nuvexport which i am not doing (only mpeg2) and 9801 deals with mpeg4 which i am not doing. |
| [23:46:04] | wagnerrp: | marginally, because youre not actually using 64-bit ints to encode, youre simply taking advantage of increased register size and count |
| [23:47:19] | branden__: | Oh I see get all of the other computers on the system to do it with parallel encoding using transcode. |
| [23:48:01] | wagnerrp: | what system? |
| [23:48:15] | branden__: | ??? |
| [23:48:20] | wagnerrp: | ??? |
| [23:48:27] | branden__: | ok I know what you mean |
| [23:48:31] | branden__: | my network. |
| [23:48:34] | iamlindoro: | I highly doubt that |
| [23:48:34] | wagnerrp: | i surely dont |
| [23:48:52] | branden__: | ??? |
| [23:48:55] | iamlindoro: | nobody is talking about parallel encoding, or your network |
| [23:48:58] | wagnerrp: | no, for most uses, you should never encode anything in mythtv |
| [23:49:04] | branden__: | oh |
| [23:49:14] | wagnerrp: | you get digital recordings, encoded by the broadcaster |
| [23:49:22] | wagnerrp: | you get analog recordings, encoded by an MPEG encoder card |
| [23:49:34] | branden__: | frame capture cards |
| [23:49:35] | wagnerrp: | you get DVDs and Bluray, encoded by whoever authored them |
| [23:49:39] | wagnerrp: | and you store it all to disk |
| [23:49:44] | wagnerrp: | you dont want to use framegrabbers |
| [23:50:04] | iamlindoro: | </jedimindtrick> |
| [23:50:14] | branden__: | I was providing a counter productive example sorry |
| [23:51:00] | branden__: | wagnerrp, I can burn them directly without authoring them? |
| [23:51:07] | wagnerrp: | burn them? |
| [23:51:26] | wagnerrp: | i suppose you could store them on a hard drive, pour lighter fluid on it, and set it on fire |
| [23:51:27] | branden__: | I am lost here |
| [23:51:30] | wagnerrp: | but i dont know why you would want to |
| [23:51:30] | iamlindoro: | OK, I'm going to go on record. this has to be a Turing test. |
| [23:52:19] | stuartm: | but which of us is the bot? |
| [23:52:32] | branden__: | wagnerrp, I miss read. |
| [23:52:32] | iamlindoro: | ThisNewGuy: WTH, man, I ordered up all those changes HOURS ago and I'm still using only 90% perfect Mythweb patches here ;) |
| [23:52:39] | iamlindoro: | and mistyped |
| [23:53:59] | iamlindoro: | Note to IBM: stop perfecting your artificial intelligences by exposing them to this channel, it will only make them surly and jaded |
| [23:54:34] | stuartm: | did that guy from the other month finally accept that 64bit is stable and not some new fangled technology that might yet rip a hole in space and time? |
| [23:54:44] | wagnerrp: | todd something |
| [23:54:46] | iamlindoro: | nope |
| [23:55:06] | branden__: | Can I hear the story behind this, please? |
| [23:55:07] | wagnerrp: | 64? surely no one needs anything more than 40 bits |
| [23:55:19] | wagnerrp: | guy on some 3rd party myth forum |
| [23:55:32] | wagnerrp: | about once a year, he tries out 64-bit linux and 64-bit myth |
| [23:55:34] | wagnerrp: | has problems |
| [23:55:46] | wagnerrp: | determines 64-bit is not yet ready for use, and drops back to 32-bit |
| [23:55:57] | branden__: | Well once a year he should go buy a new computer, that will solve it. |
| [23:56:03] | stuartm: | that was shocking, I know some people carry around some weird ideas but that was classic craziness |
| [23:56:12] | iamlindoro: | meanwhile, 100% of MythTV devs have been using 64 bit distros for years |
| [23:56:48] | stuartm: | and I'd guess considerably more than two thirds of the users too |
| [23:58:02] | skd5aner: | The only outstanding issue I've found on 64-bit was issues with some game emulators that absolutely will not work on 64-bit platforms... so that limits some capabilities with mythgame, but beyond that – there are emulators that do work, but maybe not for a particular emulated system |
| [23:58:15] | wagnerrp: | basically, the only people not running 64-bit are those still running old P4s and Athlon XPs |
| [23:58:25] | wagnerrp: | plus the whole Atom nettop crowd |
| [23:58:28] | stuartm: | I wonder if once rained at the same time a car sounded it's horn and he now believes rain is caused by carn horns? |
| [23:58:36] | iamlindoro: | skd5aner: Predominantly those that don't provide source? (I know PCSX2 was limited in that way for a while) |
| [23:58:53] | branden__: | Shut this, All of my computers are pentium 3 and up. |
| [23:59:12] | wagnerrp: | ooh... P3s |
| [23:59:21] | wagnerrp: | thats a nice 10yr old architecture |
| [23:59:23] | branden__: | I have only one p3 |
| [23:59:46] | skd5aner: | iamlindoro: yea, the way they were packaged up were only available for 32-bit distros (on ubnutu and others), but it was extremely difficult to compile from source as well |
| [23:59:48] | branden__: | The rest are p4 and one athlon. |
| [23:59:56] | skd5aner: | iamlindoro: I think it was several of the snes based ones, like znes |
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