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| [00:13:17] | Twiggy2cents: | well I give up. Making a fake dir for default makes the myth hang when accessing recordings and videos. I am just going to go back to local until 0.25 and use mythmedia server |
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| [00:15:15] | wagnerrp: | what is a 'fake dir'? |
| [00:16:03] | Twiggy2cents: | Well, it is an invalid dir |
| [00:16:23] | wagnerrp: | what does that mean? |
| [00:16:45] | Twiggy2cents: | /home/darren/NonExistant, for example |
| [00:17:02] | wagnerrp: | so its a real directory, that you created with 'mkdir'? |
| [00:17:06] | Twiggy2cents: | no |
| [00:17:21] | wagnerrp: | then what is it? |
| [00:17:26] | Twiggy2cents: | its a fake directory |
| [00:17:37] | Twiggy2cents: | nonexistant. The path that leads to nowhere |
| [00:17:40] | wagnerrp: | so its nothing |
| [00:17:42] | Twiggy2cents: | yes |
| [00:17:46] | wagnerrp: | you just typed in some gibberish into mythtv-setup |
| [00:17:49] | Twiggy2cents: | yes |
| [00:17:53] | wagnerrp: | thinking that would somehow have any effect |
| [00:17:58] | Twiggy2cents: | :) |
| [00:18:10] | wagnerrp: | why dont you make a real directory, put that into mythtv setup, and see what happens? |
| [00:18:31] | Twiggy2cents: | It works, but I dont want to store recordings on this computer |
| [00:18:45] | wagnerrp: | and since you have no tuners on that computer |
| [00:18:51] | wagnerrp: | there will be nothing to store recordings from |
| [00:19:01] | wagnerrp: | so you dont have to worry about that |
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| [00:19:12] | Twiggy2cents: | So it wont save recordings from the mbe to the sbe? |
| [00:19:27] | wagnerrp: | no, recordings are not saved over mythproto |
| [00:19:29] | wagnerrp: | only accessed |
| [00:19:32] | Twiggy2cents: | ohh |
| [00:19:41] | wagnerrp: | the backend requires direct file access to store to |
| [00:19:49] | Beirdo: | wagnerrp: OK, there's that PPC ffmpeg fix applied |
| [00:19:53] | wagnerrp: | whether that be through a local disk, NFS< or some other filesystem |
| [00:19:55] | Twiggy2cents: | So the only issue I would have is that my available storage would be skewed? |
| [00:20:08] | Twiggy2cents: | Let me clarify |
| [00:20:11] | wagnerrp: | i dont even know if that would be the case |
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| [00:20:29] | wagnerrp: | the disk scheduler may not take it into account because there are no tuners on that machine |
| [00:20:33] | Twiggy2cents: | The displayed storage on the recordings screen. (arclight) |
| [00:20:49] | wagnerrp: | and if it is a problem, you can make a couple MB file, mount it using a loop mount, and set that as a recording directory |
| [00:21:00] | wagnerrp: | meaning your available storage would be off by a whole couple MB |
| [00:21:10] | wagnerrp: | whatever the minimum needed to make an ISO is |
| [00:21:13] | Twiggy2cents: | true |
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| [00:30:21] | ThisNewGuy: | iamlindoro: do you mean delete from recordedartwork where season = 0; |
| [00:30:53] | wagnerrp: | in any case, the only reason you should consider staying with local folders at this point is if you have a number of encrypted ISOs that cannot be used over storage groups |
| [00:33:07] | iamlindoro: | ThisNewGuy: yes |
| [00:33:33] | Twiggy2cents: | Where does the import cd save the files? |
| [00:38:25] | iamlindoro: | Wherever you have configured it to do so |
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| [00:46:55] | ThisNewGuy: | iamlindoro: I get a compile error: http://pastebin.com/wK2sCkaM |
| [00:47:58] | ThisNewGuy: | do I need to distclean? |
| [00:49:02] | wagnerrp: | what is your configure line? |
| [00:49:12] | iamlindoro: | yes, you need to distclean |
| [00:49:31] | iamlindoro: | *always* distclean before reporting compile errors, though that will fix this one |
| [00:49:59] | Beirdo: | heh, we all get caught on that one once in a while |
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| [00:50:40] | wagnerrp: | i get caught more than most, because screwy lame includes require me to link directly against my install dir |
| [00:51:04] | Beirdo: | iamlindoro: I would think that you can close #9762 with wontfix at this point :) |
| [00:51:25] | Beirdo: | as Jamu is gone. |
| [00:52:02] | iamlindoro: | ah-yup |
| [00:52:04] | iamlindoro: | thanks |
| [00:53:16] | Beirdo: | no problem. Just doing a quick sweep through the pile o' tickets and that stood out |
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| [00:55:02] | ThisNewGuy: | k – distclean'ing and re-compiling |
| [00:55:15] | Beirdo: | wow, we have a log of unclaimed chaff there |
| [00:55:21] | iamlindoro: | Beirdo: Hah, weird, I would have thought the "fixed" would have gotten that one |
| [00:55:32] | Beirdo: | I woulda thought so too. |
| [00:56:26] | wagnerrp: | unclaimed chaff... meaning the 115 tickets in report 23? |
| [00:57:06] | Beirdo: | welll, especially the ones that aren't even in someone's queue as new |
| [00:57:38] | Beirdo: | like report 13... anonymous |
| [00:57:41] | wagnerrp: | well theres a lot of general tickets |
| [00:57:44] | wagnerrp: | and no one gets general |
| [00:57:52] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [00:58:49] | Beirdo: | well, I'm gonna head home, and maybe see if there isn't a bug or two that I can put under my foot and squish |
| [00:59:32] | wagnerrp: | i need to get back to merging the jobqueue branch up to current |
| [00:59:37] | wagnerrp: | its so painfully far behind |
| [00:59:39] | Beirdo: | yeah, true |
| [00:59:47] | Beirdo: | let me know if any assistance is needed |
| [01:00:02] | wagnerrp: | ive i have one merge in queue, can i trigger a second? |
| [01:00:14] | Beirdo: | who wants to be the bad guy and "wontfix" #9705 |
| [01:00:31] | Beirdo: | in queue? like it's not complete yet? |
| [01:00:34] | wagnerrp: | i.e. i made changes upstream to fix things in the jobqueue branch |
| [01:00:47] | wagnerrp: | im still fixing things, havent committed yet |
| [01:01:13] | Beirdo: | oooh. |
| [01:01:32] | Beirdo: | so you want to take the uncommitted changes and put them onto the other branch? |
| [01:01:53] | wagnerrp: | i want to bring in more committed changes from master |
| [01:02:01] | Beirdo: | ahh. |
| [01:02:14] | Beirdo: | well, the simplest would be to git stash the uncommitted changes |
| [01:02:14] | wagnerrp: | stash/merge/pop? |
| [01:02:20] | Beirdo: | do the merge and pop, yeah |
| [01:02:49] | Beirdo: | that way there's only one potential merge conflict to resolve at the end, less messy |
| [01:04:27] | Beirdo: | OK, heading home, seeya on the flip side |
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| [01:12:49] | koffel: | can some one tell me how to setup a slave backend? |
| [01:15:23] | wagnerrp: | you set it up just like a master backend |
| [01:15:31] | wagnerrp: | but you point it at the same database as the master backend |
| [01:15:36] | wagnerrp: | rather than having its own |
| [01:16:50] | koffel: | ahh |
| [01:25:44] | ThisNewGuy: | iamlindoro: It seemed to be working but then I got a segfault: http://pastebin.com/97P92naS |
| [01:26:07] | wagnerrp: | got a core dump? |
| [01:26:52] | wagnerrp: | 192.168.0.84 is your master backend? |
| [01:27:11] | ThisNewGuy: | no core dump, yes 84 is my backend |
| [01:27:28] | wagnerrp: | is this repeatable? |
| [01:27:59] | ThisNewGuy: | not sure – I'll restart the backend and try again |
| [01:29:52] | iamlindoro: | That segfault is probably just an unavoidable side effect of the fact that your backend seems to have hung up with the infamous socket error |
| [01:30:05] | iamlindoro: | (which has nothing to do with metadata lookup) |
| [01:30:26] | iamlindoro: | Just the fact that when you hammer a lot of data at it over sockets, the backend tends to go bye bye |
| [01:30:57] | iamlindoro: | it's one of our hot button issues for .25... not that anyone has volunteered to look at it |
| [01:31:02] | ThisNewGuy: | ah – anything I can do to help? |
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| [01:31:19] | iamlindoro: | If anyone were looking at it, you could ask them :) |
| [01:31:54] | wagnerrp: | learn socket code and mythsocket structure and event handling |
| [01:31:55] | wagnerrp: | :P |
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| [01:32:16] | wagnerrp: | im only about two years into it |
| [01:32:48] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: any suggestions when it refuses to stash? |
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| [01:34:55] | ThisNewGuy: | hmm – maybe a good learning opportunity |
| [01:35:11] | ThisNewGuy: | iamlindoro: it finished this time – time to checkout the movies |
| [01:35:19] | wagnerrp: | nah, ive got a rewrite in the works, but thats not going to hit until 0.26 likely |
| [01:35:42] | wagnerrp: | the socket code is the same, but event handling and query processing will be redone |
| [01:36:17] | ThisNewGuy: | k |
| [01:36:37] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: i seem to have cleaned up all the merges |
| [01:36:47] | wagnerrp: | it just doesnt compile because of upstream changes pulled in |
| [01:36:55] | wagnerrp: | and i cant compile until i pull more stuff in |
| [01:37:06] | wagnerrp: | im thinking i just commit as is, and merge again |
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| [01:38:32] | ThisNewGuy: | iamlindoro: looks great! – Fanart and covers for TV and Movies |
| [01:38:46] | ThisNewGuy: | I'll let you know if I discover any issues |
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| [02:00:51] | wagnerrp: | iamlindoro: so why do we have all these '#if 0 do_some_logging' blocks? |
| [02:01:47] | wagnerrp: | i know you got into it with beirdo about those |
| [02:03:13] | Beirdo: | wagnerrp: they were commented out with // or /* */ before, but were still commented |
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| [02:03:31] | wagnerrp: | right, what was wrong with the previous comment format? |
| [02:03:45] | Beirdo: | I'd imagine that in some places, they could be removed completely as they are long abandoned debugging |
| [02:04:26] | Beirdo: | commenting code with /* */ especially is very dangerous as they block can contain comments |
| [02:08:38] | Beirdo: | anyways, we should have everyone at sometime sweep through their code chunks and remove old code they have had commented for months/years if it's not needed anymore |
| [02:09:04] | Beirdo: | sorry for stomping on some toes by pushing the issue prematurely |
| [02:09:15] | wagnerrp: | no, just curious |
| [02:09:21] | wagnerrp: | came across it in one of the merges |
| [02:09:27] | wagnerrp: | and it was... odd and seemingly pointless |
| [02:09:47] | Beirdo: | odd, yes. less pointless than it may at first seem though ;) |
| [02:09:56] | Beirdo: | arbitrary, definitely |
| [02:12:34] | Beirdo: | anyways, I do apologize for overstepping the bounds of what I was working on at the time. It was an unwise choice. |
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| [02:13:41] | Beirdo: | OMG, how many segfaults do we have listed here to fix? |
| [02:13:49] | wagnerrp: | 47 |
| [02:14:13] | wagnerrp: | theyre the hidden killer |
| [02:14:18] | Beirdo: | heh, either you counted them or you're estimating, but either way. frick |
| [02:14:48] | wagnerrp: | whoosh |
| [02:15:53] | Beirdo: | that the sound of something going right over my head? :) |
| [02:16:13] | wagnerrp: | 47... killer... hidden.... |
| [02:16:51] | wagnerrp: | several video games, and a movie starring a certain marshall |
| [02:17:00] | iamlindoro: | hitman, I got it |
| [02:17:11] | iamlindoro: | though the movie does not exist |
| [02:17:14] | iamlindoro: | DOES NOT EXIST |
| [02:17:45] | Beirdo: | heh. beyond me |
| [02:17:51] | Beirdo: | sorry :) |
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| [02:20:18] | Beirdo: | #9366. Is that even still valid? |
| [02:22:09] | Beirdo: | and is that mythvideo-related or recording playback? Not that there's much of a difference |
| [02:24:16] | Beirdo: | oh and I *HATE* it when people give the backtrace of the threads and don't show the starting part where it actually says HOW it died |
| [02:24:28] | Beirdo: | you gotta search every thread and figure it out |
| [02:25:31] | iamlindoro: | That's a mythbuntu trace |
| [02:25:36] | Beirdo: | how hard is it to copy the first part of gdb too? |
| [02:25:37] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [02:25:40] | iamlindoro: | their rebuilder thing does that, it drives me nuts |
| [02:25:51] | Beirdo: | glad I'm not alone :) |
| [02:26:00] | iamlindoro: | It's some automated tool... Please do feel free to talk to them about it |
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| [02:26:38] | Beirdo: | yeah, I'll have to remember that sometime. all it needs is to do bt, THEN thread apply all bt full |
| [02:26:38] | wagnerrp: | ok... merges are done |
| [02:26:44] | wagnerrp: | now to try to get this thing to start working again |
| [02:27:16] | wagnerrp: | i should distclean and start fresh |
| [02:27:37] | Beirdo: | #4 0x00e8817f in av_malloc (size=42030016) at libavutil/mem.c:83 |
| [02:27:45] | Beirdo: | mallocing 42MB?! |
| [02:28:00] | Beirdo: | I think perhaps the ac3 stream was borked? |
| [02:29:32] | Beirdo: | not sure if that's repeatable, just one particular file, or what |
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| [02:38:43] | Beirdo: | oh that's just great |
| [02:39:15] | Beirdo: | I just power cycled my HDPVR because it was giving the polling errors... right in the All-Star Game |
| [02:39:18] | Beirdo: | bleh |
| [02:40:04] | Beirdo: | shoulda just let it flap around until the end of the game |
| [02:40:33] | Beirdo: | and hope the video was useful rather than just aborted like it is now |
| [02:40:36] | Beirdo: | ah well |
| [02:41:49] | Beirdo: | I guess I only missed the last half hour or so |
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| [02:49:09] | jpabq: | I upgraded to master a couple of days ago (for the first time in over a month). previewgen and commflagging seems to be a bit broken now. Often fails the first time (triggered by the recording start). If I tell it to commflag after the show is done recording, that seems to work. I will investigate more, but was wondering if anyone else is seeing this behavior? |
| [02:50:51] | iamlindoro: | I've seen the previewgen weirdness, I think multiple people have |
| [02:51:11] | iamlindoro: | someone has complained of weird DB insert errors with mythcommflag that work after the recording stops |
| [02:51:22] | jpabq: | When the previewgen fails, you can't delete the recording from PBB, because it is listed as "in use". |
| [02:51:27] | iamlindoro: | My suspicion would immediately fall to ringbuffer changes |
| [02:51:32] | Beirdo: | for me the previewgen won't give a good preview for any analog capture |
| [02:52:04] | Beirdo: | likely unrelated to the issues you're seeing, but yeah, something's wonky in there |
| [02:52:26] | jpabq: | I am seeing the same behavior from either ATSC or HD-PVR, so source does not seem to matter. |
| [02:52:54] | Beirdo: | hmm, those seem to work for me lately. But yeah, there's something awry. Fun |
| [02:53:35] | Beirdo: | I put in #9904 to track it for mine, feel free to join in if it's the same issue |
| [02:54:16] | Beirdo: | it seems to give either a black frame or it times out... or I get what looks like a B-frame |
| [02:55:45] | Beirdo: | haven't taken the time to drill into it at all |
| [03:04:05] | jpabq: | xz definitely compresses better than bz2, but also definitely takes longer to do it. |
| [03:04:19] | Beirdo: | and uses more memory, IIRC |
| [03:04:37] | Beirdo: | and maybe also for decoding? I remember there were tradeoffs there |
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| [03:13:55] | jpabq: | Wish I had started mythbackend up with --loglevel notice. My log is getting hammered by the new metadata stuff. |
| [03:14:51] | iamlindoro: | jpabq: It should subside quickly-- or you can just get ahead of it at run the three steps at top: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Enhancing_Recordin . . . adata_Lookup |
| [03:15:12] | iamlindoro: | jpabq: I assume it's the artwork update? |
| [03:15:42] | iamlindoro: | Only the first one should really be more than a few lines, and ideally you'll follow the steps on that page to get it all set up |
| [03:15:54] | jpabq: | I guess. A lot of "ProcessRequest ringbuffer.cpp:487 (Start) – RingBuf(/multi3/mythvideo/Coverart//43838_coverart.jpg): Not starting read ahead thread, this is a write only RingBuffer" |
| [03:16:26] | jpabq: | as well as file transfer messages. |
| [03:16:35] | jpabq: | I do have almost 3000 recordings. |
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| [03:17:18] | iamlindoro: | jpabq: So it's doing the artwork download and update, which is a daily run but only the first will take very long |
| [03:17:31] | iamlindoro: | jpabq: and it only needs to download once per inetref, of which you likely have many, many fewer |
| [03:17:39] | iamlindoro: | ie one series = one inetref |
| [03:18:12] | jpabq: | I did run mythmetadatalookup the other day, but it looks like it is going threw it again. I did update today, so I picked up some of your latest changes. |
| [03:18:18] | jpabq: | through |
| [03:18:23] | iamlindoro: | The one running right now is a different step |
| [03:18:45] | iamlindoro: | the otehr day you might have gotten the info set on recordings, and maybe rules, now the housekeeper is getting the artwork up to date |
| [03:18:50] | jpabq: | looks like it is done. |
| [03:19:00] | iamlindoro: | Really, though, for a legacy install you want to have run all three of the steps at the top of that page |
| [03:19:07] | iamlindoro: | then everything should be pretty smooth sailiing |
| [03:19:31] | jpabq: | Beirdo, I am getting a LOT of "INSERT INTO recordedseek" errors during the current recording. |
| [03:19:42] | jpabq: | iamlindoro, will do. Thanks. |
| [03:20:00] | iamlindoro: | Hereafter, let's say Chuck Season 5 begins... when you record the first episode, that housekeeping job will pull in the season 5 artwork and set it up... while maintaining the season 4 artwork for episodes from that season |
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| [03:22:02] | wagnerrp: | i was going to say firefly season 2, or life season 3 |
| [03:22:17] | Beirdo: | jpabq: I haven't seen those, but I know others have. |
| [03:22:40] | Beirdo: | it's like it's trying to insert the marks twice somehow |
| [03:22:42] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp: I wanted to pick things that are not coincident with infernal subzero temperatures |
| [03:23:10] | wagnerrp: | you have to have hope |
| [03:23:14] | wagnerrp: | there always must be hope |
| [03:23:34] | wagnerrp: | good guys season 2 |
| [03:23:40] | wagnerrp: | it will happen |
| [03:23:45] | wagnerrp: | oh.. it will... it will |
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| [03:23:52] | iamlindoro: | That show was aweseme |
| [03:23:54] | iamlindoro: | awesome |
| [03:24:17] | Beirdo: | I hope it has a season 2 ;) |
| [03:26:00] | iamlindoro: | being canceled before the season ended doesn't inspire much ;) |
| [03:26:44] | Beirdo: | yeah, I know. |
| [03:26:49] | Beirdo: | stupid networks |
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| [03:38:36] | Beirdo: | #9915 looks like a permissions issue to me, not a mythtv issue |
| [03:42:24] | iamlindoro: | Beirdo: And if not that, a SAMBA issue |
| [03:42:42] | iamlindoro: | sounds like possibly some issue with making the mountpoint the SG root |
| [03:44:16] | Beirdo: | yeah, exactly. |
| [03:44:35] | Beirdo: | we'll see if he even responds |
| [03:46:08] | Beirdo: | to start, let's see the basic perms. And the samba mapping of archive -> execute bit, or mounted owner, etc often give fun issues |
| [03:49:41] | iamlindoro: | Guess Paul on #9659 doesn't know what "original poster" means |
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| [04:00:28] | Beirdo: | heh, sigh. |
| [04:01:12] | Beirdo: | he was the first me-tooer. but I guess if we fix the issue... |
| [04:01:28] | Beirdo: | still wish people would pay attention |
| [04:01:30] | jpabq: | iamlindoro, I thought you had metadata lookup working for Castle? Using the UI, to manually set the metadata, I get "No match found..." |
| [04:02:49] | Beirdo: | mythnews is one of the "nearly abandoned" plugins at times, it seems |
| [04:03:28] | jpabq: | "mythmetadatalookup --refresh-all-artwork" just segfaulted. |
| [04:03:33] | iamlindoro: | jpabq: are you looking up an item with a subtitle which doesn't yet exist at TVDB? |
| [04:03:42] | Beirdo: | yech |
| [04:03:49] | iamlindoro: | jpabq: Backtrace |
| [04:03:55] | Beirdo: | we just love segfaults :) |
| [04:04:18] | jpabq: | iamlindoro, how would i know? |
| [04:05:33] | iamlindoro: | check? |
| [04:05:37] | jpabq: | iamlindoro, it looks like thetvdb only has the first episode of season 4 |
| [04:06:28] | jpabq: | oops. actually it is season 3. Yes they have the episode I tried to look up "http://thetvdb.com/?tab=episode&seriesid= . . . ;lid=7" |
| [04:06:43] | iamlindoro: | jpabq: anyway, just set the inetref yourself if the lookup fails |
| [04:07:22] | iamlindoro: | at which point future recordings will inherit it |
| [04:07:45] | iamlindoro: | ie, put 272911 in |
| [04:08:00] | iamlindoro: | erm, 83462 |
| [04:08:13] | Beirdo: | it's the seasonid? ahh, that's probably why my experiment with CHAOS failed |
| [04:08:18] | Beirdo: | I put the seriesid |
| [04:08:23] | iamlindoro: | Beirdo: nah, it's the seriesid |
| [04:08:27] | Beirdo: | then forgot all about it and went to bed |
| [04:08:33] | Beirdo: | oh |
| [04:08:43] | Beirdo: | hehe, in that case, I likely mistyped it |
| [04:09:06] | jpabq: | iamlindoro, does an automatic lookup of castle work for you? I just thought I remembered you saying it did. |
| [04:09:35] | wagnerrp: | once you set the inetref, yes |
| [04:09:36] | iamlindoro: | jpabq: It works when there's no subtitle |
| [04:09:49] | iamlindoro: | and yes, once youv'e set inetref, it'll work for all recordings on that rule thereafter |
| [04:10:14] | jpabq: | Should it fall back to a "no subtitle" lookup, if it fails with a subtitle? |
| [04:10:21] | iamlindoro: | maybe |
| [04:10:25] | iamlindoro: | I'll think about it |
| [04:10:46] | iamlindoro: | The lookup fallthrough is already very complicated |
| [04:11:30] | iamlindoro: | Anyway, just put in the inetref, set the season and episode to some arbitrary value, and save it for now |
| [04:11:47] | iamlindoro: | (the season and episode on the rule don't matter, but they are used as a hint for future lookups) |
| [04:12:48] | jpabq: | jamu found good artwork for it. I guess the decision is whether to work do the best you can with the acceptances of false-positives, or to make the user manually do more work to avoid the false positives. |
| [04:13:22] | iamlindoro: | I don't find false positives acceptable, personally |
| [04:14:07] | iamlindoro: | so my preference is to err on the side of caution... it costs the user next to nothing to just set an inetref on a couple of shows where it can't guess right. It causes a lot more heartache to have to undo all the work it would do if it got it wrong |
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| [04:16:30] | iamlindoro: | That said, I'll add the subtitleless lookup, but ONLY when there is a subtitle present and all the other lookups fail which will make Castle work |
| [04:18:45] | wagnerrp: | jpabq: JAMU handled castle out of the box, because it came with a number of pre-set definitions |
| [04:19:00] | wagnerrp: | one was that Castle should be inetref whatever |
| [04:19:01] | jpabq: | mythmetadatalookup segfaulting seems to have wedged my backend. |
| [04:19:14] | iamlindoro: | No, it's the wedging your backend that segfaulted mml |
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| [04:19:56] | iamlindoro: | it's opening tons of remotefile writes, which exacerbate the Socket error thing |
| [04:19:59] | Beirdo: | QThreadStorage: Thread 0x27d3ed0 exited after QThreadStorage 3 destroyed |
| [04:20:08] | jpabq: | Could be. |
| [04:20:22] | Beirdo: | I just got that on exit from a --refresh-all-artwork |
| [04:21:50] | iamlindoro: | Beirdo: That's harmless, I can squash that pretty easily |
| [04:21:50] | Beirdo: | I had similar oddness in the commflag binary (I think) that went away with the addition of a CleanupGuard that deleted gCoreContext, basically |
| [04:21:55] | Beirdo: | K |
| [04:22:43] | iamlindoro: | I suspect it's the lookup and download threads just finishing up, but the object that owns them gets destroyed before they have a chance... regardless, it will only exist if the download and artowrk setting are complete, so the real work is done |
| [04:24:05] | Beirdo: | right |
| [04:24:37] | Beirdo: | something along those lines. :) I'll leave it with you, I'm not too worried about it |
| [04:27:35] | Beirdo: | I think I need some chips |
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| [04:40:05] | iamlindoro: | jpabq: Fixes for Castle committed. |
| [04:40:25] | iamlindoro: | It'll now try a "Hail Mary" lookup when all else fails on a title/subtitle lookup |
| [04:40:42] | iamlindoro: | Tested against the only episode of Castle I could find in my guide, which has a subtitle, and working |
| [04:41:11] | jpabq: | :) |
| [04:41:14] | jpabq: | Thanks |
| [04:41:49] | iamlindoro: | jpabq: FWIW I haven't triggered the BE socket hang, but I had quite a lot less to grab than some people... the "download a crapload of graphics all at once" socket hang can happen in MythVideo too, it's been around for a long, long time (ergo my certainty about it) |
| [04:42:23] | iamlindoro: | I am 99% certain that the segfault in MML is because the timer on the download is running out while it still thinks its writing to the backend, because the backend has left it hanging |
| [04:42:28] | jpabq: | Understood. Just annoying since I was actually recording something at the time. |
| [04:42:48] | iamlindoro: | I'm sorry about that |
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| [04:43:37] | iamlindoro: | I used to have a backend which was in some subtle way different, and when I worked on mass metadata grabbing for MythVideo, I used to be able to trigger the socket error deadlock at will by rm'ing all my artwork , removing the whole library, scan, put it back, scan |
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| [04:44:11] | iamlindoro: | and always in the middle of a RemoteFile::Write (though I don't think it's RemoteFile to blame, it's just a heavy consumer of sockets) |
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| [04:45:29] | jpabq: | I assume --refresh-all just updates missing data? |
| [04:45:52] | iamlindoro: | yup |
| [04:46:21] | iamlindoro: | only operates on recordings themselves, copies all data that it can from rules where appropriate, looks up anything else that might be new or unlooked up, and does no artwork download |
| [04:46:28] | iamlindoro: | So it should be safe socketwise |
| [04:47:41] | iamlindoro: | And really, everyday use of --refresh-all-artwork should be absolutely safe too-- but that initial one may cause socket error issues in the case of huge grabs |
| [04:48:05] | jpabq: | (before your fix) I went in and set Castle's id manually. I then brought up the metadata UI screen again, and it did not seem to keep the id I had entered manually, but tried to figure it out automatically again... |
| [04:48:38] | iamlindoro: | There appears to be a bug in the schedule editor that I haven't figured out yet |
| [04:48:47] | iamlindoro: | You need to exist the whole parent before it will "take" |
| [04:49:04] | iamlindoro: | so save, esc, reenter will work, but save, reenter won't |
| [04:49:22] | jpabq: | Okay. I will keep that in mind. |
| [04:49:22] | iamlindoro: | I am not certain why that is, it's on my list |
| [04:50:13] | jpabq: | It looks like it is downloading artwork for each individual episode? |
| [04:50:13] | iamlindoro: | It is definitely *my* bug, though, I'm clearly missing something about updating the in-memory recording rule |
| [04:50:21] | iamlindoro: | each season |
| [04:50:56] | jpabq: | Ah, it is downloading screeshots. |
| [04:51:27] | jpabq: | Is that really necessary for recordings? |
| [04:51:28] | iamlindoro: | but just one per season, right? For whichever the first recording it finds of that season, yes, it presently downloads the screenshot too. Also on the list |
| [04:52:03] | iamlindoro: | not strictly necessary, it's automatic for all metadata image downloads, and working around it for recordings will just take more code |
| [04:52:24] | jpabq: | A quick glance does not show it doing more than 1 per season. |
| [04:52:34] | iamlindoro: | Here, I'll fix it now |
| [04:54:07] | iamlindoro: | jpabq: fixed |
| [04:54:10] | iamlindoro: | (but untested) |
| [04:54:16] | jpabq: | :) |
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| [04:58:41] | jpabq: | Running mythmetadatalookup does point out that I need to go through and delete recording rules that are no longer "in use". |
| [04:59:19] | iamlindoro: | jpabq: Hah, found my little schedule editor bug |
| [04:59:39] | Beirdo: | nice, that was fast :) |
| [04:59:42] | iamlindoro: | obvious once you know what to look for: m_recordingRule->Save(true); |
| [04:59:46] | iamlindoro: | derrrr |
| [05:00:34] | iamlindoro: | so I updated the in-memory one, but the parent screen saved it on the way out |
| [05:00:42] | Beirdo: | ahhh |
| [05:00:45] | iamlindoro: | versus me saving it as I closed my own |
| [05:01:04] | jpabq: | iamlindoro, cool. I am not going to do much more tonight. I have to get into wind-down mode, or I won't sleep worth a damn. |
| [05:01:18] | iamlindoro: | Yep, fix works |
| [05:01:43] | iamlindoro: | jpabq: NP, thanks for trying it out-- I know there are growing pains and people are used to JAMU's dumb-but-easy... I promise it will be more powerful and easier still |
| [05:01:54] | jpabq: | "! Error: There was an error with the XML retrieved from thetvdb.com: |
| [05:01:54] | jpabq: | Opening and ending tag mismatch: p line 9 and Overview, line 10, column 402" |
| [05:02:25] | iamlindoro: | That's a TVDB API problem |
| [05:02:32] | iamlindoro: | finally one I can blame on someone else ;) |
| [05:02:40] | jpabq: | iamlindoro, I very much understand that is is in it's early stages. It has a LOT of potential, though! |
| [05:02:57] | iamlindoro: | Thanks, it really does mean a lot to me for you to see/say that |
| [05:03:06] | Beirdo: | it's pretty nice :) |
| [05:03:19] | iamlindoro: | And Wayyyy the F faster in the PBB, if you haven't tested |
| [05:03:33] | iamlindoro: | no more get a list of files, build a list of potentials, hunt for matches, rinse, repeat |
| [05:03:45] | Beirdo: | yeah, I didn't pay attention, but I will when this show is over |
| [05:03:45] | iamlindoro: | just pull the whole map for that item, set them, add them to the cache list, done |
| [05:04:08] | Beirdo: | nice. Not iterating meaninglessly is a great thing |
| [05:04:26] | iamlindoro: | not to mention the inherent slowness of doing the whole list over mythproto |
| [05:04:36] | Beirdo: | heh, yeah |
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| [05:06:25] | iamlindoro: | I personally never really found the image hunt slow, but even for me the comparison is night and day |
| [05:06:48] | Beirdo: | and I'm sure it was worse the more images you have too |
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| [05:07:03] | Beirdo: | so for sphery with thousands of recordings, I bet he'll notice :) |
| [05:07:28] | iamlindoro: | well, the real slowdown would be based on numbers of artwork files, which probably has a more direct correlation to recording rules |
| [05:07:32] | iamlindoro: | which is still a lot for sphery |
| [05:07:42] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [05:07:48] | ** wagnerrp wonders why beirdo hasnt converted his jobinfo class yet ** | |
| [05:07:49] | iamlindoro: | but I'll bet I still have more artwork files |
| [05:08:00] | iamlindoro: | (because the mythvideo stuff is in there too) |
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| [05:08:08] | Beirdo: | jobinfo class? |
| [05:08:10] | Beirdo: | que? |
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| [05:08:35] | wagnerrp: | any particular rules to follow? important to verbose, and then warning/err/info? |
| [05:08:54] | wagnerrp: | files in the jobqueue bbbbbranch |
| [05:09:04] | jpabq: | iamlindoro, it looks like it may be grabbing info for deleted (deleted recgroup) shows. Not a big deal, but could maybe be optimized to ignore them. |
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| [05:09:38] | Beirdo: | oooh, in the other branch :) |
| [05:10:01] | Beirdo: | mostly, VB_IMPORTANT -> VB_GENERAL, LOG_ERR (or _WARNING) |
| [05:10:03] | iamlindoro: | jpabq: I suppose so, yes |
| [05:10:21] | wagnerrp: | oddly, mythverbose was traded for mythlogging automatically |
| [05:10:26] | wagnerrp: | i dont recall doing that |
| [05:10:35] | Beirdo: | VB_EXTRA -> LOG_DEBUG. Otherwise, I was putting mostly into just LOG_INFO |
| [05:10:58] | Beirdo: | but it's within yer discretion, of course. Default level is info and above |
| [05:11:18] | Beirdo: | that probably happened in the merge |
| [05:11:23] | iamlindoro: | jpabq: Is the recgroup name for Deleted translated? |
| [05:11:58] | iamlindoro: | jpabq: ie, if I want to do a comparison on pginfo->recgroup == "Deleted", does it need to be tr("Deleted")? And is that even the right string? |
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| [05:12:59] | wagnerrp: | but nothing merged, that file doesnt exist in the main branch |
| [05:13:12] | jpabq: | iamlindoro, based on what I am seeing in programs/mythfrontend/playbackbox.cpp, I would say that "Deleted" is NOT translated. |
| [05:13:12] | iamlindoro: | jpabq: n/m, looks like pginfo->GetRecordingGroup() != "Deleted" |
| [05:13:20] | iamlindoro: | right |
| [05:13:27] | Beirdo: | wagnerrp: you lost me. |
| [05:13:33] | iamlindoro: | And on that note, should filter out Live TV artwork too |
| [05:13:51] | Beirdo: | I think my brain is on vacation today |
| [05:14:02] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: i mean... git doesnt have the smarts to update headers when you rename a file does it? |
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| [05:14:13] | jpabq: | g'night all |
| [05:14:45] | Beirdo: | not that I know of, but if it thinks your file was based on another file, it may have pulled in the changes in that other file perhaps |
| [05:15:02] | wagnerrp: | brand new file |
| [05:15:04] | iamlindoro: | night |
| [05:15:25] | Beirdo: | so if your file is basically 90% the same as another file, it may take that file and apply your diffs to it |
| [05:15:34] | Beirdo: | if that makes sense |
| [05:16:08] | wagnerrp: | right, its nothing like any other file |
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| [05:17:24] | wagnerrp: | well, no sense worrying about it |
| [05:18:19] | Beirdo: | beats me then :) |
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| [05:23:52] | Beirdo: | hey, wagnerrp: the modular-proto branch... is it dead, or just sleeping? |
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| [05:24:51] | Beirdo: | hey, wagnerrp: the modular-proto branch... is it dead, or just sleeping? |
| [05:25:05] | Beirdo: | since ya ping timed-out just after I asked :) |
| [05:25:11] | wagnerrp: | dead and consumed |
| [05:25:17] | Beirdo: | cool |
| [05:25:29] | wagnerrp: | the worthwhile chunks have been committed to master already |
| [05:25:39] | Beirdo: | it will get cleaned up with the others after 0.25 release then, I guess |
| [05:26:22] | wagnerrp: | i think i left a slave backend class in there that might be worth saving |
| [05:26:51] | Beirdo: | cool |
| [05:27:07] | Beirdo: | well, no rush, we have to get to release before worrying about that anyways |
| [05:27:12] | wagnerrp: | that is, if someone wants to put together a very simplified slave recorder |
| [05:27:27] | Beirdo: | which I think we do want to be able to do |
| [05:27:28] | wagnerrp: | mythrecord or some such |
| [05:28:29] | Beirdo: | iamlindoro: yeah, noticably faster image updates. Kudos. |
| [05:29:30] | Beirdo: | gah, I can't believe Merlin has no fan art |
| [05:29:55] | Beirdo: | does in swedish |
| [05:29:58] | Beirdo: | OK then |
| [05:31:51] | Beirdo: | same showid, so it should be able to find something |
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| [05:34:12] | iamlindoro: | Beirdo: Yeah, the artwork is language specific too (but falls back to english for other languages) |
| [05:34:48] | Beirdo: | well, it seemed to find it, so all is good. Next victim :) |
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| [06:31:13] | wagnerrp: | odd... even after a distclean and reconfigure |
| [06:31:28] | wagnerrp: | im getting issues with undefined VERBOSE calls in libmythbase |
| [06:38:17] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: any suggestions? |
| [06:39:48] | wagnerrp: | it is possible ccache is boogered? |
| [06:39:56] | Beirdo: | it is, yes |
| [06:40:26] | Beirdo: | I'd do a git grep VERBOSE in the offending dir as well to see if there are any still there |
| [06:40:44] | wagnerrp: | yeah, nothing |
| [06:40:46] | Beirdo: | it should find some VERBOSE_MAP and VERBOSE_LEVEL_CHECK |
| [06:40:48] | Beirdo: | but that's it |
| [06:41:04] | Beirdo: | yeah, try a make distclean |
| [06:41:10] | Beirdo: | then go in there and rm *.o |
| [06:41:10] | wagnerrp: | done |
| [06:41:11] | wagnerrp: | twice |
| [06:41:38] | Beirdo: | in case there are old .o files that distclean doesn't clean out due to not being in the build anymore |
| [06:41:55] | Beirdo: | which may somehow be linked in anyways |
| [06:42:07] | wagnerrp: | cleared ccache, trying again |
| [06:42:11] | Beirdo: | K |
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| [07:01:28] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: a distclean and ccache clear later, still getting it |
| [07:02:45] | Beirdo: | did you distclean AND clean out the .o files? |
| [07:03:01] | Beirdo: | and also might want to clean out the installed .h files too |
| [07:03:41] | wagnerrp: | nothing installed, this is a fresh jail |
| [07:03:50] | wagnerrp: | im going to bed, ill screw with it later |
| [07:03:53] | Beirdo: | K :) |
| [07:04:18] | Beirdo: | I'll be on tomorrow, maybe some pastebin will make it clearer what to look for, dunno |
| [07:04:23] | Beirdo: | have a good sleep |
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| [07:53:31] | birandkoray: | hi guys |
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| [09:24:34] | perlmonkey: | hi guys, managed to break my setup somehow, hoping someone can help |
| [09:25:23] | perlmonkey: | when I start mythtv frontend it starts with just a blank window.. and I noticed this in log: MediaRenderer::HttpServer Create Error 2011-07–13 10:23:21.402 Empty LocalHostName. |
| [09:25:25] | perlmonkey: | any ideas? |
| [09:26:29] | perlmonkey: | after a while the window closes down by itself |
| [09:26:48] | perlmonkey: | then restarts |
| [09:27:18] | justinh: | no hostname? |
| [09:29:19] | perlmonkey: | full log: http://paste.debian.net/122759/ |
| [09:31:34] | perlmonkey: | sorry theres more: |
| [09:31:35] | perlmonkey: | http://paste.debian.net/122760/ |
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| [09:32:21] | justinh: | no idea what's up there |
| [09:32:41] | perlmonkey: | :-/ |
| [09:32:53] | perlmonkey: | was working fine until 2 weeks ago |
| [09:33:02] | perlmonkey: | all I have changed is my router |
| [09:33:25] | justinh: | you waited 2 weeks to try & fix it? :-O |
| [09:33:36] | perlmonkey: | haven't needed to use it until now |
| [09:33:58] | perlmonkey: | didn't realise it was boken until today |
| [09:34:09] | perlmonkey: | most annoying |
| [09:34:38] | perlmonkey: | will have to try and get frontend working on master backend and take it from there |
| [09:34:53] | justinh: | blimey, if mrs doesn't get to see her stories all hell breaks loose |
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| [09:38:18] | perlmonkey: | nah doesn't work on master either |
| [09:38:22] | perlmonkey: | something clearly up |
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| [09:50:01] | perlmonkey: | well got frontend working on master, but still no joy on slave |
| [09:50:05] | perlmonkey: | same blank window |
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| [09:50:29] | justinh: | broken gl? |
| [09:50:38] | perlmonkey: | gonna try a reboot on both machines |
| [09:50:39] | perlmonkey: | brb |
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| [09:50:41] | justinh: | try mythtv-setup -O ThemePainter=qt |
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| [09:55:10] | perlmonkey: | nah, still same.. takes a long time for the frontend to even start.. maybe 2 minutes |
| [09:55:22] | perlmonkey: | something screwed here |
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| [09:57:49] | perlmonkey: | sometimes I *really* hate this f'kin program |
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| [09:59:08] | justinh: | try with -O ThemePainter=qt |
| [09:59:42] | justinh: | oh wait it IS using the qt painter already |
| [10:00:14] | justinh: | it appears that more has changed than just your router |
| [10:00:46] | perlmonkey: | nothing has, apart from normal sys updates on workstation/slave box |
| [10:00:55] | perlmonkey: | i haven't touched the backend box, no updates done |
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| [10:04:33] | perlmonkey: | *reinstalling frontend* |
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| [10:06:04] | perlmonkey: | no change |
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| [10:06:33] | perlmonkey: | fuk it, i cant waste a whole day on this..i'm gonna scrap the whole f'kin thing and install something else, only need it to monitor cctv cam |
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| [10:07:51] | justinh: | would've told *anyone* not to bother with mythtv for that |
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| [10:11:55] | perlmonkey: | i used mythtv for tv previously *and* cctv, but have since stopped watching tv |
| [10:12:13] | perlmonkey: | mythtv now overkill |
| [10:12:27] | perlmonkey: | anyway im done. thanks |
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| [12:54:25] | iamlindoro: | Guess I won't have a change to tell him that it's not a MythTV error, but an ubuntu one, and that it would be fixed with an rm -rf ~/.ICEautothority |
| [12:54:40] | iamlindoro: | er .ICEauthority |
| [12:54:56] | iamlindoro: | anyway, it's academic now, another user blames Myth for their broken setup, news at 11 |
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| [13:02:37] | justinh: | ah so it was something to do with the user not having the right security permissions to use the desktop? That's *mad* |
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| [13:14:02] | ThisNewGuy: | iamlindoro: if ttvdb.com adds fanart for a season that previously didn't have any (i.e. a row already exists in recordedartwork with no fanart) will --refresh-all-artwork pick that up and update the row? |
| [13:15:06] | iamlindoro: | ThisNewGuy: No, only empty seasons are changed-- this is by design, as a user may not *want* a particular season of a show to be touched/filled in |
| [13:16:22] | iamlindoro: | however, in your specific example, there's actually no such thing as season specific fanart |
| [13:16:29] | iamlindoro: | fanart covers the entire series |
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| [13:19:07] | iamlindoro: | ThisNewGuy: At most I might add updating to attempt to fill every row to dangerous mode (which isn't *exactly* dangerous, just aggressive to the point of being slightly ridiculous) |
| [13:19:23] | justinh: | hahaha NewsCorp have withdrawn their bid to buy BskyB |
| [13:20:59] | ThisNewGuy: | iamlindoro: is it possible to add a warning message to --refresh-all-artwork if updates exists but they're not being downloaded? |
| [13:21:24] | iamlindoro: | ThisNewGuy: No-- how would I know? |
| [13:21:49] | iamlindoro: | We don't run a lookup on items that already have artwork-- otherwise we'd be raping the metadata sources once every 24 hours |
| [13:22:13] | iamlindoro: | and thus, can't know whether there's new art |
| [13:22:13] | ThisNewGuy: | k |
| [13:22:35] | iamlindoro: | I'll add it to -dangerously |
| [13:23:02] | ThisNewGuy: | dangerously overwrites everything even things that were changed manually right? |
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| [13:23:18] | justinh: | is -timidly the default option? ;-) |
| [13:23:34] | iamlindoro: | justinh: more or less |
| [13:24:10] | justinh: | aka the -noIdidnotreadtheREADME option :) |
| [13:24:21] | iamlindoro: | ThisNewGuy: No, Dangerously just looks up EVERYTHING, whether it's got an inetref or not, versus the default which will only look up things which it has a reasonable liklihood of being able to get artwork for |
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| [13:24:45] | justinh: | I seriously need to start thinking about getting up to speed with this lot again |
| [13:25:13] | iamlindoro: | -dangerously ignores all the signs that it is about to look something up which cannot possibly have a result, or for which the result might possibly be a false positive, and does it anyway |
| [13:25:31] | iamlindoro: | If all your content already has inetrefs, dangerously is perfectly safe |
| [13:25:45] | iamlindoro: | But if you're someone who is half-assing it, then you get what you get |
| [13:26:42] | ThisNewGuy: | k – thanks |
| [13:26:46] | iamlindoro: | np |
| [13:27:55] | iamlindoro: | I came up with a way to improve the accuracy of searches last night (to pick the right grabber most of the time right off the bat), hopefully I'll find some time to work that today |
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| [13:34:44] | justinh: | with this attention to detail, you are surely spoiling us :) |
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| [13:50:44] | iamlindoro: | Hah, with everyone used to Jamu just picking whatever-art-work-lazy-matching, but always providing SOMETHING, it needs to be polished and featureful to convince people that matching more conservatively is a better idea |
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| [13:57:16] | jst: | Anyone here familiar with mythcal? I'm running Fedora, have all the correct packages installed, but I'm running into this error: http://pastebin.com/4YxHi0qs |
| [13:58:31] | ** justinh looks it up ** | |
| [13:58:50] | justinh: | "mythcal is a simple script that synchronizes your MythTV recording schedule to a Google calendar. ".. Okay. WHY? |
| [13:59:24] | jst: | So I can see what I have set to record later. |
| [13:59:33] | justinh: | looks like you're missing the mythtv bindings |
| [13:59:54] | justinh: | specifically the mythtv python bindings |
| [14:00:36] | jst: | Nope. Package python-MythTV-0.24.1–2.fc15.x86_64 already installed and latest version |
| [14:00:39] | ** justinh saves himself the hassle & just leaves the box on 24/7 ** | |
| [14:00:55] | jst: | Same here. I just want to be able to see what's coming up when I'm at work. I cannot SSH into my home box. |
| [14:01:15] | justinh: | surely an import failing would be that it can't find it |
| [14:02:19] | justinh: | did you check it out or copy the code from the wiki? |
| [14:03:07] | ThisNewGuy: | iamlindoro: I have a TV Show called "baggage" that has no subtitle and no inetref in ttvdb.com. When I run --refresh-all it gets the inetref from a disney movie called "baggage buster". Is there anyway to say "don't mess with this episode"? |
| [14:05:41] | jst: | justinh: yeah, i checked it out using svn. |
| [14:06:38] | justinh: | jst: I'd still say (note I know very little about python other than I dislike it) that a fail on import implies some kind of bindings issue |
| [14:08:42] | justinh: | jst: looks like similar errors for other scripts which use python bindings were fixed by purging the bindings & reinstalling em |
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| [14:11:02] | jst: | so remove the package and reinstall it? |
| [14:11:18] | justinh: | seems to be the way |
| [14:11:50] | justinh: | google "ImportError: cannot import name MythTV" & see for yourself |
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| [14:15:29] | jst: | yum remove python-MythTV; yum clean all; yum install python-MythTV didn't work. :( |
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| [14:26:59] | ThisNewGuy: | didn't the bindings recently change to MythBE – could it be that mythical is out of sync with your version of the bindings? |
| [14:32:01] | jst: | ahh |
| [14:33:02] | jst: | ahh, cool... i changed it to: from MythTV import MythBE |
| [14:33:09] | jst: | getting new errors now though :( |
| [14:34:07] | jst: | man, forget this |
| [14:34:18] | jst: | rpm fusion needs to get their act together |
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| [14:52:19] | wagnerrp: | jst: have you checked the wiki to see if there is an updated version of mythical? |
| [14:52:28] | elkin: | hi everyone! |
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| [14:54:26] | elkin: | While adding the new features of inetref to my theme I noticed that the python scripts that should donwload the artwork dont work for me anymore |
| [14:54:36] | elkin: | I am getting "Error:(No module named ttvdb.tvdb_ui) " |
| [14:55:00] | elkin: | but running python from cli and doing a import ttvdb.tvdb_ui works... |
| [14:55:18] | wagnerrp: | that should not work from the command line |
| [14:55:30] | wagnerrp: | however import MythTV.ttvdb.tvdb_ui should work |
| [14:55:40] | elkin: | one second |
| [14:56:54] | elkin: | wagnerrp: ImportError: No module named ttvdb.tvdb_ui |
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| [14:57:26] | elkin: | running Mythbuntu 11.04 |
| [14:58:23] | elkin: | I do have both pythhon 2.6 and 2.7 installed |
| [14:59:08] | wagnerrp: | even if you didnt have the bindings installed, you should not be getting that error out of ttvdb.py |
| [14:59:17] | wagnerrp: | since it traps the imports, and reports a different error |
| [15:01:09] | wagnerrp: | can i see the full traceback? |
| [15:01:41] | elkin: | wagnerrp: sure, how do I create it and post it? |
| [15:02:53] | wagnerrp: | wait.... |
| [15:02:57] | wagnerrp: | do you only see that line |
| [15:03:22] | wagnerrp: | or do you see "The modules tvdb_apu.py (v1.0.0 or greater), tvdb_ui.py, ....." |
| [15:03:38] | elkin: | wagnerrp: no, two lines more |
| [15:03:49] | elkin: | The modules tvdb_api.py (v1.0.0 or greater), tvdb_ui.py, tvdb_exceptions.py and cache.py. |
| [15:04:05] | elkin: | They should have been installed along with the MythTV python bindings. |
| [15:04:09] | wagnerrp: | right, that is the normal response from ttvdb.py when the mythtv python bindings are not installed |
| [15:04:26] | wagnerrp: | considering you have two versions of python, they are probably installed for the wrong version |
| [15:04:49] | elkin: | but the bindings are installed... by the package libmyth-python |
| [15:05:03] | wagnerrp: | yes yes... but you have two copies of python |
| [15:05:12] | wagnerrp: | chances are they are only installed on one of them |
| [15:05:30] | wagnerrp: | and when called from mythtv, the script is trying to run the wrong one |
| [15:05:42] | elkin: | ohh |
| [15:05:56] | elkin: | let me uninstall one... |
| [15:06:01] | wagnerrp: | 'head /usr/share/mythtv/metadata/Television/ttvdb.py' and see which one the script is trying to load |
| [15:06:12] | wagnerrp: | the hashbang line at the top of the file |
| [15:07:55] | elkin: | #!/usr/bin/env python |
| [15:08:13] | wagnerrp: | and then "python --version" |
| [15:08:57] | elkin: | Python 2.7.1+ |
| [15:09:20] | elkin: | I uninstalled "sudo apt-get remove python2.6 --purge" |
| [15:09:26] | elkin: | did not fix |
| [15:09:46] | wagnerrp: | thats because the bindings were likely installed against python2.6 |
| [15:10:12] | elkin: | will reinstall |
| [15:10:36] | wagnerrp: | when you reinstall, i dont know if the bindings will still be there |
| [15:10:47] | wagnerrp: | they should be in /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/MythTV |
| [15:11:22] | iamlindoro: | Can *anyone* who lives in a non-english speaking country give me a "Select * from program LIMIT 10;" ? |
| [15:12:53] | elkin: | iamlindoro: sure... where do you want it posted? |
| [15:13:01] | wagnerrp: | pastebin.com |
| [15:13:01] | iamlindoro: | elkin: pastebin is fine, thanks |
| [15:13:41] | wagnerrp: | elkin: if you get python2.6 installed, and a 'python2.6' followed by 'import MythTV' works, then you can change the hashbang on the grabber scripts manually |
| [15:13:55] | wagnerrp: | probably the best thing to do would be to reinstall the bindings package |
| [15:14:05] | wagnerrp: | which will hopefully install it against python2.7 |
| [15:14:19] | wagnerrp: | which means using 'python' as the interpreter will work normally |
| [15:14:44] | wagnerrp: | this is all guessing however, ive not use the mythbuntu packages so i dont really know how they function |
| [15:18:02] | elkin: | iamlindoro: http://pastebin.com/BcNEUKDu |
| [15:19:00] | iamlindoro: | Ewww, empty category_types... That's what I was afraid of :( |
| [15:19:01] | iamlindoro: | Thanks |
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| [15:20:09] | elkin: | iamlindoro: not over the air epg... grabber script |
| [15:20:10] | abqjp: | iamlindoro: Speaking of false positives... during one of Directv's free weekends, I recorded "The Bounty Hunter". The Schedule Editor meta data lookup is pulling in "DOG The Bounty Hunter", and does not give me the choice of choosing the movie instead of the series. If it was going to force pick one or the other, I would expect it to pick the movie, since it is an exact title match, instead of the series which is not. |
| [15:20:55] | iamlindoro: | abqjp: The metadata grabbing is a fallthrough method which starts with the TV grabber... I am working on a method to improve the grabber selection logic right now |
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| [15:21:02] | jst: | wagnerrp: with respect to mythcal, i am using the latest version from svn |
| [15:21:19] | wagnerrp: | what svn? |
| [15:21:25] | iamlindoro: | abqjp: I'm going to pull in the category_type from recordedprogram and use movie vs. series there to affect the initial grabber selection logic |
| [15:21:54] | iamlindoro: | abqjp: People with less full guide data will still be stuck with the fallback behavior, but those with good guide data should get high accuracy by picking the right grabber first |
| [15:22:10] | wagnerrp: | jst: actually... the mythical i know about is a perl script |
| [15:22:13] | wagnerrp: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Mythical.pl |
| [15:22:18] | elkin: | wagnerrp: import MythTV works, but import MythTV.ttvdb.tvdb_ui will not work |
| [15:22:21] | wagnerrp: | has nothing to do with python |
| [15:22:43] | abqjp: | iamlindoro: sounds good. |
| [15:23:07] | jst: | wagnerrp: cool, trying now |
| [15:23:11] | wagnerrp: | elkin: what about MythTV.__version__ |
| [15:23:14] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp: elkin: I solved that same problem yesterday by nuking the the $prefix/share/mythtv/metadata dir, all installed Myth python modules, and doing a reinstall of the bindings and scripts |
| [15:23:21] | wagnerrp: | jst: what script are you talking about? |
| [15:23:50] | wagnerrp: | iamlindoro: thats my guess, very old version of the bindings, before ttvdb was migrated out of the grabber scripts |
| [15:24:14] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp: For some reason the issue appeared recently for me, but clearly it was caused by me in some way, so all's well that ends well |
| [15:24:42] | wagnerrp: | odd |
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| [15:27:15] | elkin: | iamlindoro: I use "program.category_type LIKE 'film'" to detect movies |
| [15:27:27] | elkin: | iamlindoro: this being Germany |
| [15:27:50] | iamlindoro: | elkin: yes, we use "movie" here, that's even worse news since it means it's not standardized |
| [15:28:02] | iamlindoro: | but I can easily check movie + film |
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| [15:28:36] | jst: | wagnerrp: http://code.google.com/p/mythcal/ |
| [15:32:57] | wagnerrp: | yeah, converting MythTV to MythBE in the two places it is used should work |
| [15:33:02] | wagnerrp: | could i see the errors you were getting? |
| [15:35:30] | JEDIDIAH__: | category_type in ('film','movie') |
| [15:35:44] | iamlindoro: | JEDIDIAH__: wrong language |
| [15:35:52] | iamlindoro: | but right idea |
| [15:36:24] | iamlindoro: | Misses the point aht it's easier to compare against standardized values than ones that vary per-grabber and locale |
| [15:37:43] | elkin: | need to go... be back later. thanks for the help |
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| [15:38:40] | jst: | wagnerrp: sure, one second |
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| [15:41:00] | wagnerrp: | ill be back in ~10 |
| [15:41:55] | jst: | from MythBE import MythBE |
| [15:41:56] | jst: | ImportError: No module named MythBE |
| [15:42:14] | jst: | i can try different permutations of that, but it still throws other errors |
| [15:53:07] | wagnerrp: | no... 'from MythTV import MythBE' |
| [15:53:28] | wagnerrp: | MythTV is the module, MythBE is the backend connection class within that module |
| [15:57:39] | wagnerrp: | jst: ^^^ |
| [16:02:58] | jst: | http://pastebin.com/E63777g9 |
| [16:03:31] | jst: | wagnerrp: ^^^ heh, we did the same thing |
| [16:05:07] | wagnerrp: | MythTV is the module you import from |
| [16:05:17] | wagnerrp: | MythBE is the class you import, and use in the script |
| [16:05:26] | wagnerrp: | so the MythTV() should be MythBE() |
| [16:07:07] | jst: | wagnerrp: http://pastebin.com/TLynD7fy |
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| [16:08:17] | wagnerrp: | yeah, that one would take a bit more work |
| [16:08:22] | wagnerrp: | not sure what best to do there |
| [16:09:59] | elkin: | back from work... still same "No module named ttvdb.tvdb_ui" error even after deinstalling all mythtv packages, nuking the whole /usr/share/mythtv directory and reinstalling |
| [16:10:16] | wagnerrp: | it should still be MythTV.ttvdb.tvdb_ui |
| [16:11:14] | wagnerrp: | what version does the log at the top of /usr/share/mythtv/metadata/Television/ttvdb.py say? |
| [16:11:29] | elkin: | yea, that is the output from the script and from within python |
| [16:11:42] | wagnerrp: | it should say the version is 1.1.3 |
| [16:13:13] | jst: | 1.12 |
| [16:13:23] | elkin: | "#!/usr/bin/env python" and version 1.1.3 |
| [16:13:36] | wagnerrp: | odd |
| [16:15:09] | jst: | where can i find mythlink.pl? |
| [16:15:16] | jst: | wiki refers to it, but doesn't show the code! |
| [16:15:24] | wagnerrp: | and you can run 'python' and 'import MythTV'? |
| [16:15:40] | elkin: | strange, doing "import ttvdb.tvdb_ui" from the python cli now exits with: "The modules tvdb_api.py (v1.0.0 or greater), tvdb_ui.py, tvdb_exceptions.py and cache.py." |
| [16:15:45] | elkin: | it is doing something |
| [16:15:56] | elkin: | the "import MythTV" works flawlessly |
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| [16:16:20] | jst: | import MythTV works... ImportError: No module named tvdb_ui |
| [16:16:39] | elkin: | jst: I see, you have the same problem? |
| [16:17:33] | jst: | i dunno, not sure who wagnerrp is talking to |
| [16:17:45] | jst: | just trying to get mythical.py working |
| [16:18:46] | elkin: | jst: you seem to have the same problem as me, but I am trying to get ttvdb.py running |
| [16:23:15] | jst: | what distro? |
| [16:23:18] | jst: | err *which |
| [16:23:59] | wagnerrp: | jst: the problem with mythical.py is currently that i now return a custom datetime, which includes an empty tzinfo |
| [16:24:20] | elkin: | jst: mythbuntu |
| [16:24:20] | wagnerrp: | so the utility in your script does not know how to handle it |
| [16:24:31] | wagnerrp: | mythical.pl is directly on that page i sent you |
| [16:24:58] | jst: | wagnerrp: yeah, i will use that, just gonna have to run a web server or write a script to push .ical files |
| [16:25:09] | jst: | plus google calendar doesn't like their format |
| [16:25:12] | jst: | way too complicated |
| [16:25:15] | wagnerrp: | if it does not do the same thing |
| [16:25:22] | wagnerrp: | then fix mythical.py |
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| [16:25:28] | wagnerrp: | or contact the author of the problem |
| [16:25:50] | wagnerrp: | im actually thinking i maybe shouldnt be doing that in the bindings |
| [16:26:09] | wagnerrp: | either leave the timezone empty, or properly populate it |
| [16:26:19] | wagnerrp: | anyway, you are not having the same problem as elkin |
| [16:26:49] | wagnerrp: | elkin: what about 'import MythTV.ttvdb.tvdb_ui'? |
| [16:27:25] | elkin: | wagnerrp: ImportError: No module named ttvdb.tvdb_ui |
| [16:28:06] | wagnerrp: | what about 'import MythTV; print MythTV.__version__' |
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| [16:29:54] | elkin: | wagnerrp: (0, 25, -1, 2) |
| [16:30:55] | wagnerrp: | in that version, that import that you said failed should work just fine |
| [16:31:11] | elkin: | wagnerrp: the ubuntupackage changes the path with a patch |
| [16:31:24] | wagnerrp: | why? |
| [16:31:55] | elkin: | wagnerrp: no clue: ROOT_FLAGS = --root="$(INSTALL_ROOT)/../libmyth-python" |
| [16:32:16] | elkin: | wagnerrp:PREFIX_FLAGS="--install-layout=deb" |
| [16:32:22] | wagnerrp: | thats just installing to a separate file so they can package it |
| [16:32:35] | wagnerrp: | and deb means they install to dist-packages, rather than the default site-packages |
| [16:32:49] | wagnerrp: | one is normal |
| [16:32:55] | wagnerrp: | the other is... debian... |
| [16:33:07] | elkin: | wagnerrp: well thats the only changes |
| [16:33:52] | wagnerrp: | neither should affect the importing of that submodule |
| [16:34:44] | elkin: | wagnerrp:is there a way of telling python to reload all the PATHs? might this be a problem? |
| [16:35:04] | wagnerrp: | it wont do anything, since you have access to the MythTV module |
| [16:35:18] | wagnerrp: | so you should have no trouble accessing the ttvdb submodule it contains |
| [16:35:52] | elkin: | wagnerrp: would some "ln -s" into the root module directory do something good? |
| [16:36:07] | wagnerrp: | only if stuff was moved where it shouldnt be |
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| [16:54:58] | jst: | anyone know where i can find mythlink.pl? |
| [16:56:20] | wagnerrp: | should be in contrib |
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| [16:59:01] | jst: | is that a package i have to install? |
| [16:59:58] | elkin: | wagnerrp: yea!! got it to work... "sudo rm -rf /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.7/MythTV/" removes the symlinks. Then "rm -rf /usr/share/pyshared/MythTV". After that install bindings from source... |
| [17:00:28] | wagnerrp: | pyshared? pymodules? |
| [17:00:29] | elkin: | wagnerrp: I guess I need to write a bugreport for the package |
| [17:00:36] | elkin: | pyshared |
| [17:00:39] | wagnerrp: | thats debian/ubuntu funkiness there |
| [17:00:46] | wagnerrp: | traditional python does no such thing |
| [17:03:07] | jst: | can someone send me mythlink.pl? sorry, have no idea how to get it. |
| [17:03:55] | wagnerrp: | its installed to where ever your packages stuffed contrib |
| [17:04:51] | jst: | hmm, locate myth | grep contrib returns nothing... locate mythlink returns nothing |
| [17:04:55] | wagnerrp: | if nowhere... https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/tree/master/ . . . /mythlink.pl |
| [17:05:40] | jst: | perfect, thanks |
| [17:06:52] | elkin: | new problem: "AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'getLogger'" |
| [17:07:22] | wagnerrp: | dont know about that one, thats not part of the mythtv bindings |
| [17:07:39] | wagnerrp: | there is a 'logger' module, but that is part of python itself |
| [17:07:45] | wagnerrp: | it should come packaged with any python install |
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| [17:19:39] | Twiggy: | Well I will finally have mythtv tv set up with video storage groups and no tunerless backends. Newegg had a shellshocker 1.5tb drive for $50 |
| [17:19:55] | Twiggy: | I will have plenty of room in the BE now |
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| [18:02:53] | elkin: | wagnerrp: "sudo apt-get remove python" then add all the stuff again... gee some work to get it to work |
| [18:03:08] | elkin: | wagnerrp: thanks for all the help |
| [18:03:19] | wagnerrp: | not sure what would have caused all that trouble |
| [18:03:24] | wagnerrp: | might be worth asking in ubuntu-mythtv |
| [18:05:45] | elkin: | wagnerrp: I guess its just the many distribution upgrades plus the uncountable updates of mythtv I have done that had killed something |
| [18:06:08] | elkin: | wagnerrp: still the libmyth-python packages is broken somehow |
| [18:06:57] | wagnerrp: | we ship the python bindings as part of the core install |
| [18:07:15] | wagnerrp: | so the separate package is entirely mythbuntu's creation, if it is broken somehow |
| [18:08:32] | elkin: | yea they break the python stuff into an own package but still leave the scripts |
| [18:08:52] | elkin: | inetrefs are working... nice! |
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| [18:56:42] | sphery: | wagnerrp: you sure what you're hating isn't the fact that github fails to notify us of some commits, so when you merged master into jobqueue-rewrite, it looked like you pushed in a few extra changes (but they're really changes that went into master, but without e-mail notifications) |
| [18:57:28] | sphery: | or was the merge of master into jobqueue-rewrite the accidentally-pushed change from another branch? |
| [18:57:35] | wagnerrp: | no, i was working on stuff in jobqueue-rewrite last night |
| [18:57:39] | wagnerrp: | and pushed them without intending |
| [18:57:43] | sphery: | ahhh |
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| [20:15:34] | sphery: | strange... I went to http://savannah.gnu.org/ , and got, "Failed to connect to database: Lost connection to MySQL server at 'reading initial communication packet', system error: 113. Please contact as soon as possible server administrators root@localhost." and being a good citizen of the FOSS community, I sent an e-mail, but it's just bouncing back immediately--like it never even leaves my system. |
| [20:19:53] | iamlindoro: | you should hack into localhost and find out what's going on |
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| [20:20:12] | iamlindoro: | You never know, their admin and you might have a lot in common |
| [20:20:40] | sphery: | heh, yeah, it's possible--all great minds and all, right? |
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| [21:00:31] | iamlindoro: | WTF is with all the recent "OT, but I don't care, I'll ask anyway" BS on the list? |
| [21:00:49] | iamlindoro: | Now it's about batch text editing? Can we not enforce *any* rules? |
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| [21:07:59] | j-rod: | I was hoping the phallic throughput measuring thread would die a quick death |
| [21:10:38] | wagnerrp: | hey j-rod, look how fat and long my pipe is! |
| [21:11:13] | j-rod: | and look at how much stuff comes out of it in X number of seconds! |
| [21:11:37] | j-rod: | the allure of downloading isos over a DS3 is lost on me |
| [21:11:49] | j-rod: | since I just pull them over GbE here in the office |
| [21:12:01] | j-rod: | SEE, MINE'S EVEN BIGGER |
| [21:12:12] | wagnerrp: | i really pounded that fiber into my cisco last night |
| [21:13:01] | wagnerrp: | seriously, i was downloading on an OC3 when i was fifteen |
| [21:13:35] | wagnerrp: | i couldnt even use the whole thing because i was bottlenecked by 10/100 ethernet |
| [21:13:36] | j-rod: | perhaps the folks in the thread still *are* fifteen |
| [21:14:39] | wagnerrp: | plus back then, linux still installed using floppies, and it too longer to copy to the installation medium than to download... :) |
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| [21:25:44] | ** kormoc resists the urge to upgrade to 400/400 and link to a speedtest.net test in that thread ** | |
| [21:26:33] | iamlindoro: | I just cut work over to 2 x Gig fiber today, I could come up with a graphic of Calvin peeing on the text "OC3" |
| [21:26:46] | kormoc: | Nice! |
| [21:28:07] | iamlindoro: | Well, almost cut over, anyway, the clowns who ran the cabling from the perimeter to the data center decided it would be easier to punch down 2 of the 4 pairs to each jack and run half as many cables |
| [21:28:22] | iamlindoro: | because "100 Mbit should be enough for anyone" |
| [21:28:37] | iamlindoro: | Too bad the fiber switch won't turn up the interface without all four pairs |
| [21:28:52] | kormoc: | Of course. Why get gig when you pay for gig? |
| [21:29:18] | iamlindoro: | Heh, I would have been happy with at least getting 100 mBit for today and getting the wiring guys in, but it won't even bring up the interface |
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| [21:34:37] | wagnerrp: | i cant tell if jay ashworth through my response was funny, or was calling me a dick |
| [21:34:59] | kormoc: | I always assume the second with him |
| [21:35:11] | wagnerrp: | but he had a little smiley face |
| [21:35:21] | wagnerrp: | hence my confustion |
| [21:35:23] | wagnerrp: | confusion |
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| [22:17:32] | kormoc: | perhaps branden__ has a nvidia 7000 card in a 550 mhz amd k processor and is going to upgrade to 0.25 |
| [22:17:52] | wagnerrp: | well... then he can upgrade |
| [22:17:53] | wagnerrp: | :) |
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| [22:18:14] | branden__: | hello |
| [22:18:42] | wagnerrp: | branden__: basically, if you have a card that supports VDPAU, it does not support XvMC |
| [22:19:03] | branden__: | what is vdpau |
| [22:19:06] | kormoc: | and if you have a card that supports XvMC, you likely can just use the cpu to do the decoding |
| [22:19:18] | wagnerrp: | and if you have older hardware that supports XvMC, and a processor too slow to handle the decoding in software, then you simply want to upgrade |
| [22:19:19] | kormoc: | branden__, hardware accelerated video decoding and rendering |
| [22:19:20] | branden__: | you mean gpu |
| [22:19:28] | kormoc: | no |
| [22:19:29] | kormoc: | I mean cpu |
| [22:19:51] | kormoc: | XvMC is extremely limited, and thus typically the cpu can handle the few steps it offloads just fine |
| [22:19:52] | branden__: | I have one of two options here a radeon pro 9200 |
| [22:19:54] | wagnerrp: | XvMC was only ever good for MPEG2, and even then only a partial offload |
| [22:19:54] | branden__: | or |
| [22:20:29] | wagnerrp: | it would allow you to decode ATSC content on a 1.5GHz P4, rather than requiring a 2.5GHz P4 in software |
| [22:20:36] | wagnerrp: | the radeon cards never supported XvMC |
| [22:20:53] | wagnerrp: | as despite all of ATIs wild promises of what they WOULD support |
| [22:21:04] | wagnerrp: | their linux drivers have always been garbage |
| [22:21:11] | wagnerrp: | with such a card, your only option is Xv |
| [22:21:17] | wagnerrp: | as it does not have enough power to do OpenGL |
| [22:21:28] | branden__: | nvidia geforce 7600GS |
| [22:21:39] | branden__: | Those are my video card options |
| [22:22:00] | wagnerrp: | the 7600GS can do XvMC, but it should not do XvMC, nor for that matter should it be using Xv |
| [22:22:08] | wagnerrp: | you should use software decoding and OpenGL rendering |
| [22:22:37] | branden__: | how would I use opengl rendering? |
| [22:23:20] | ** kormoc wonders if branden__ actually has myth running or if this is more abstract ** | |
| [22:23:32] | wagnerrp: | branden__: Qt is not a graphics toolbox |
| [22:23:44] | wagnerrp: | it is an application framework |
| [22:23:52] | branden__: | ok |
| [22:24:00] | wagnerrp: | meaning it and gtk are not comparable in purpose |
| [22:24:57] | branden__: | Would a wintv card be ok for use with mythtv? |
| [22:25:15] | wagnerrp: | that depends, there are many types of cards that call themselves WinTV |
| [22:25:30] | wagnerrp: | what card specifically are you talking about |
| [22:25:42] | kormoc: | and it depends on where you are getting your tv signal from |
| [22:25:53] | branden__: | wintv hvr 1800 |
| [22:26:09] | wagnerrp: | that card can only be used for digital broadcasts, and unencrypted digital cable |
| [22:26:24] | branden__: | crap |
| [22:26:43] | branden__: | unencrypted you say |
| [22:27:02] | wagnerrp: | unencrypted, meaning any channels you can receive if you plug a digital tv straight into the wall |
| [22:27:11] | branden__: | nice |
| [22:27:19] | wagnerrp: | http://www.silicondust.com/support/channels/ |
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| [22:30:10] | branden__: | For my purposes this card will work just fine |
| [22:31:54] | branden__: | As I understand it |
| [22:31:57] | wagnerrp: | note that while the card does do analog video, deficiencies in the driver prevent analog on it from being used in mythtv |
| [22:32:10] | wagnerrp: | in the confines of mythtv, it is digital only |
| [22:32:41] | branden__: | I am a mythtv noob |
| [22:33:04] | branden__: | Could mythtv encode captured video to mpeg4? |
| [22:33:19] | wagnerrp: | that depends on what you mean by mpeg4 |
| [22:33:49] | branden__: | xvid dvix or the mpeg4 encoder built into ffmpeg |
| [22:34:02] | wagnerrp: | there is mp4 the container format, which is similar in concept to a zip file |
| [22:34:11] | wagnerrp: | there is mpeg4aac, audio compression |
| [22:34:19] | wagnerrp: | mpeg4asp (divx and xvid) |
| [22:34:27] | wagnerrp: | and mpeg4avc (x264) |
| [22:34:43] | wagnerrp: | mythtv will transcode to mpeg4asp using the ffmpeg encoder |
| [22:34:50] | wagnerrp: | and store it in a nuppelvideo container |
| [22:35:06] | wagnerrp: | however use of this codec and container is advised against |
| [22:35:09] | branden__: | I should get to work with cron and bash so it encodes all of my video to h.264 |
| [22:35:31] | wagnerrp: | well you wouldnt use cron, you would use mythtv's internal jobqueue |
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| [22:35:58] | branden__: | I was thinking that I would get the video then encode it to the slow h.264 |
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| [22:36:27] | wagnerrp: | digital video does not get encoded during capture |
| [22:36:40] | wagnerrp: | it is broadcast as mpeg2, and merely stored straight to disk |
| [22:37:36] | branden__: | encoded after that? |
| [22:37:59] | wagnerrp: | you can run batch tasks through the jobqueue to encode after the fact |
| [22:38:20] | wagnerrp: | due to the power requirements to compress HD H264 video |
| [22:38:20] | jhp: | wagnerrp: Is this also the reason why programs I record from channel A can be viewed (all dutch channels) while channels I record coming from BBC are not viewable in Mythtv after recording? |
| [22:38:23] | wagnerrp: | most people dont bother |
| [22:38:34] | wagnerrp: | and instead just buy additional hard drives |
| [22:38:35] | jhp: | When I download the mpeg file to my laptop I can view them normally. |
| [22:38:53] | wagnerrp: | are not viewable how? |
| [22:38:58] | branden__: | mpeg2 files are big |
| [22:39:03] | wagnerrp: | like your mythtv machine doesnt have the power to do so? |
| [22:39:23] | iamlindoro: | bugs bugs bugs, I make bugs |
| [22:39:27] | branden__: | I took 4 gigs of a mpeg2 file from a dvd to a few hundred megs with h.264 |
| [22:39:31] | iamlindoro: | buggy bug bugs |
| [22:39:39] | wagnerrp: | branden__: then you did it wrong |
| [22:39:52] | branden__: | ???? |
| [22:39:56] | jhp: | The viewer in MythTV just crashes on the mpeg file and when I try to view them using vlc it gives me errors in the file and only gmplayer on my laptop can properly view it. |
| [22:40:03] | wagnerrp: | and that 4GB MPEG2 file will be of drastically better quality than the few hundred MB h264 |
| [22:40:26] | wagnerrp: | H264 was only designed to manage about double the compressibility of MPEG2 |
| [22:40:26] | branden__: | wagnerrp: I used crf 20 it could not tell the differance |
| [22:40:39] | branden__: | difference* |
| [22:40:42] | wagnerrp: | and in practice, it might achieve three times better |
| [22:40:54] | wagnerrp: | few hundred means 300 |
| [22:41:06] | branden__: | well I have to tell |
| [22:41:11] | wagnerrp: | and if you compressed a full length movie down to 300MB, and didnt notice any compression artifacts |
| [22:41:18] | wagnerrp: | then it was a cell shaded cartoon |
| [22:41:32] | wagnerrp: | and the 4GB spent on the DVD was largely wasted bits |
| [22:41:43] | branden__: | that dvd have a lot of it is junk |
| [22:41:52] | jhp: | wagnerrp: Or you just have very bad eyes. |
| [22:41:52] | branden__: | just look at dvd author |
| [22:42:16] | wagnerrp: | what about dvd author? |
| [22:42:39] | branden__: | dvd author writes a bunch of blank sectors kind of like a true VOB |
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| [22:43:16] | wagnerrp: | yes, and any proper ripping program would remove all that blank data, leaving only the actual MPEG file |
| [22:43:33] | branden__: | I was talking about the raw file to h.264 |
| [22:43:54] | branden__: | my bad |
| [22:44:13] | wagnerrp: | when you broadcast digital TV, the filler data is provided in the transport stream |
| [22:44:31] | wagnerrp: | when you record digital tv, that filler data is automatically stripped out by the tuner card |
| [22:44:41] | wagnerrp: | and mythtv only gets the actual data streams |
| [22:45:23] | jhp: | The digital TV stream I receive is Multicast on a FTTH connection. |
| [22:45:26] | branden__: | Once I can get a box that won't burn out on me I will have my media box |
| [22:46:10] | branden__: | I had an amd machine that hit around the boiling point of water before it shut off |
| [22:46:32] | wagnerrp: | sounds like you need a bigger fan/heatsink |
| [22:46:39] | wagnerrp: | or you need to clear all the cat hair out |
| [22:46:48] | branden__: | cat hair? |
| [22:47:26] | wagnerrp: | or dog hair, or human hair, or dead skin, or any number of other stuff that clogs fans and heatsinks |
| [22:47:40] | wagnerrp: | cats just tend to shed a whole lot |
| [22:47:57] | branden__: | and cough then up as compressed hair balls |
| [22:48:01] | wagnerrp: | plus theyre indoors all the time, and like the warmth of a computer |
| [22:48:24] | wagnerrp: | no, very little of what they shed gets consumed |
| [22:48:40] | branden__: | I don't own any pets so pet hair is not a problem. |
| [22:48:49] | branden__: | dust is though |
| [22:48:52] | wagnerrp: | but your hair and skin is |
| [22:48:57] | wagnerrp: | dust is largely dead skin |
| [22:49:17] | wagnerrp: | it flakes off, gets pulverized, and gets sucked into your computer |
| [22:50:06] | branden__: | air compressor it is then |
| [22:51:04] | branden__: | So could me doing this really decrease the temperature 50 degrees Celsius? |
| [22:51:32] | wagnerrp: | if your CPU is running at 100C, then something is wrong |
| [22:51:42] | Beirdo: | wagnerrp: depends on where it's measured :) |
| [22:51:56] | wagnerrp: | either there is crap clogging your heatsink, your CPU fan has died, the heatsink has become unseated |
| [22:52:00] | branden__: | internally |
| [22:52:07] | Beirdo: | in the core, i3/5/7 have their internal shutdown set to 99C |
| [22:52:17] | wagnerrp: | maybe you have four fans blowing in, and no vents |
| [22:52:23] | Beirdo: | but that's measured in the core |
| [22:52:41] | wagnerrp: | which means it should be the hottest temperature you might see |
| [22:52:45] | branden__: | This is a very old cpu around 10 years |
| [22:52:46] | branden__: | old |
| [22:52:54] | wagnerrp: | and a sensor on the motherboard might be around 80C |
| [22:52:57] | branden__: | It is clocked to 1.1Ghz |
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| [22:53:00] | Beirdo: | if that's measured on the motherboard... you are gonna have a melted crater |
| [22:53:43] | branden__: | It was measured directly adjacent to the cpu, or in the cpu |
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| [22:55:18] | branden__: | I was thinking if i could get the heat thing resolved I could clock it up to 1.4Ghz |
| [22:55:34] | Beirdo: | or you could just buy a modern CPU |
| [22:55:40] | branden__: | nah |
| [22:55:49] | Beirdo: | less chances of meltdown |
| [22:56:06] | branden__: | The newest cpu in my house is a p4 |
| [22:56:22] | Beirdo: | that's not a house |
| [22:56:22] | branden__: | I have 5 of them |
| [22:56:26] | Beirdo: | that's a museum |
| [22:56:36] | wagnerrp: | an 1.1GHz T-Bird isnt up to the task of ATSC decoding |
| [22:56:57] | branden__: | tours are from 11am to 1pm after that it is a house |
| [22:56:59] | wagnerrp: | spend $150, swap out the guts for something modern |
| [22:57:14] | Beirdo: | should thermally mount a cast iron skillet and use it to cook your eggs in the morning |
| [22:57:50] | branden__: | That would dissipate the heat, and provide a nice meal. |
| [22:58:04] | wagnerrp: | it would dissipate too much |
| [22:58:22] | wagnerrp: | you need a small tin, maybe the size of a mini-cd to cook eggs |
| [22:58:24] | branden__: | Not once it is encased with bacon fat |
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| [22:58:36] | Beirdo: | oooh, a tuna tin |
| [22:58:44] | branden__: | lol |
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| [22:59:35] | branden__: | As I under stand it h.264 can be decoded by very old machines. |
| [22:59:53] | Beirdo: | not at HD resolutions it can't |
| [23:00:00] | Beirdo: | maybe postage-stamp sized |
| [23:00:04] | branden__: | That is a given |
| [23:01:16] | branden__: | I have got a machine with speed of a 800Mhz processor to decode a mkv with h.264 video and ac3 audio at the resolution of 480p |
| [23:02:10] | branden__: | flv files had a lot of lag though |
| [23:02:20] | Beirdo: | mmm, dazed and confused |
| [23:02:26] | sid3windr: | <+Beirdo> that's not a house <+Beirdo> that's a museum <- LOL |
| [23:02:39] | branden__: | tours are from 11am to 1pm after that it is a house |
| [23:04:48] | branden__: | well then I have to go on that. |
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| [23:06:04] | wagnerrp: | why does he have so many old machines of the same era? |
| [23:06:19] | wagnerrp: | its like one day 8 years ago, he bought a bunch of hardware |
| [23:06:23] | wagnerrp: | and then hasnt bought anything since |
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| [23:17:24] | Beirdo: | heh, yeah |
| [23:18:11] | kormoc: | he's getting clever's hand me downs! |
| [23:19:43] | wagnerrp: | nah, hes still got old P2s and P3s |
| [23:21:37] | kormoc: | Holy crap! |
| [23:21:48] | wagnerrp: | ? |
| [23:21:55] | kormoc: | Someone is complaining on github about the libmpeg2 removal |
| [23:22:05] | kormoc: | https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/ebf97 . . . mment-476137 |
| [23:22:47] | Beirdo: | how does it not? |
| [23:23:11] | Beirdo: | just signed up today.. to complain |
| [23:24:59] | Beirdo: | always gotta be at least one ignoramus around |
| [23:25:14] | iamlindoro: | Moron |
| [23:25:22] | Beirdo: | aye |
| [23:25:26] | iamlindoro: | I will bet you good money he's in channel, too |
| [23:25:36] | iamlindoro: | since it can't be coincidence that it came up here not 30 minutes ago |
| [23:25:43] | iamlindoro: | so, to whom it may concern, you are a morom |
| [23:25:43] | Beirdo: | yeah, agreed |
| [23:25:44] | iamlindoro: | moron |
| [23:25:53] | Beirdo: | hehehe |
| [23:26:13] | Beirdo: | morom looks nicer, being a palindrome and all |
| [23:26:57] | jams: | i always thought the word describing a palindrome should be a palindrome |
| [23:27:10] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: us three have responded, are you going to chime in? |
| [23:27:29] | iamlindoro: | Morom sounds not unlike an Intel chip of some sort |
| [23:27:36] | wagnerrp: | jams, come join in the fun! |
| [23:29:58] | Beirdo: | there. |
| [23:31:44] | Beirdo: | any more wanna pile on? :) |
| [23:32:17] | ** wagnerrp just had a vision of a queen and a certain mel brooks movie ** | |
| [23:34:22] | wagnerrp: | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082517/quotes?qt=qt0445889 |
| [23:35:58] | wagnerrp: | four devs and an apology |
| [23:37:04] | Beirdo: | I think I need to watch that |
| [23:39:58] | kormoc: | I'm waiting for part 2 before I watch part 1 |
| [23:40:27] | defaultro: | check this out folks, LOL, http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-20138 . . . -Viagra.html |
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| [23:44:52] | iamlindoro: | jpabq: Beirdo, and any others playing the home game-- latest bundle of updates just committed should drastically improve the grabber selection logic, especially against Schedules Direct data (but by no means requiring it) |
| [23:46:23] | Beirdo: | cool |
| [23:46:39] | iamlindoro: | Selects the right grabber for all the movies in my guide, the right one for all the shows in my guide, falls back to the title-only search for Tv shows when there's no title/subtitle match (and thus presents you with a selection menu for Castle), etc. |
| [23:47:06] | iamlindoro: | Mostly, this big commit adds a bunch of logic to pick the right grabber first, instead of just universally trying TVDB then TMDB |
| [23:47:17] | iamlindoro: | ThisNewGuy: ^^ |
| [23:47:30] | Beirdo: | wow, you're keeping busy :) |
| [23:47:30] | wagnerrp: | the seriesid is somehow copyrighted, right? |
| [23:47:43] | wagnerrp: | so its not like we could have a translation table built somewhere |
| [23:47:48] | iamlindoro: | It's proprietary data, yeah |
| [23:47:56] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp: wellll |
| [23:48:05] | Beirdo: | not sure you technically can copyright a number |
| [23:48:06] | iamlindoro: | technically TVDB returns TMS seriesids |
| [23:48:15] | iamlindoro: | and technically we parse them in the metadata classes |
| [23:48:23] | iamlindoro: | lookup->GetTMSID() |
| [23:48:53] | iamlindoro: | I'm just not sure if it's kosher for we who legally have the data on our systems to compare it against a source which technically speaking, shouldn't have that data |
| [23:48:55] | Beirdo: | you can copyright the collection of numbers with related data, but I didn't think you could go much smaller than that in scope. |
| [23:49:10] | kormoc: | iamlindoro, one of the issues MG is hopefully going to solve |
| [23:49:14] | Beirdo: | where's our IP Lawyer? :) |
| [23:49:26] | wagnerrp: | MG? |
| [23:49:30] | iamlindoro: | kormoc: cool |
| [23:49:38] | kormoc: | Beirdo, it's less a copy right and more terms of service/service agreement |
| [23:49:48] | Beirdo: | ahh |
| [23:49:49] | kormoc: | wagnerrp, new pet project of mine, MediaGlue |
| [23:50:02] | iamlindoro: | In my mind it's in a gray area, but I'd rather stay out of those |
| [23:50:07] | kormoc: | right |
| [23:50:21] | wagnerrp: | hey look, you already have a facebook page |
| [23:50:25] | kormoc: | I think I have a solid way to handle it |
| [23:50:26] | kormoc: | wagnerrp, ooh? |
| [23:50:30] | Beirdo: | however, if we are just taking a publicized number off tvdb, we don't necessarily know they match TMS |
| [23:50:43] | kormoc: | Beirdo, and that's the goal of MG ;) |
| [23:50:47] | Beirdo: | yay! |
| [23:50:54] | Beirdo: | smart man, this kormoc :) |
| [23:51:22] | kormoc: | the goal is to be the glue id that ties together all the different media information/streaming locations on the web |
| [23:51:32] | kormoc: | have an id? Find all the others |
| [23:51:54] | Beirdo: | argh!! #9921 |
| [23:52:15] | wagnerrp: | libmpeg2 option no longer works for video playback? |
| [23:52:26] | Beirdo: | if RHEL6 doesn't have the "newer Date::Manip distribution", then don't use RHEL6 |
| [23:52:32] | Beirdo: | or learn how to use CPAN |
| [23:53:09] | wagnerrp: | how old is this new version? |
| [23:53:25] | Beirdo: | that would be my first question, yeah |
| [23:53:26] | Beirdo: | one moment |
| [23:53:59] | wagnerrp: | i mean if its a couple months, id say wait and see until it becomes time to release |
| [23:54:06] | Beirdo: | the absolute latest is 13 Jun 2011 |
| [23:54:08] | wagnerrp: | if its a year or more, screw em |
| [23:55:04] | Beirdo: | come on CPAN, what about the previous release? |
| [23:55:31] | wagnerrp: | http://search.cpan.org/~sbeck/Date-Manip-6.24 . . . 009-11-23%29 |
| [23:55:37] | wagnerrp: | oh yeah! screw 'em |
| [23:55:48] | wagnerrp: | november 2009 |
| [23:56:25] | kormoc: | rpm forge should have it, no? |
| [23:56:34] | wagnerrp: | and RHEL6 came out late last year didnt it? |
| [23:56:45] | wagnerrp: | meaning 6.xx was at least a year old at that time |
| [23:56:53] | iamlindoro: | Anyone remember when Red Hat always used to be the new hotness? |
| [23:57:00] | Beirdo: | I would hope it would be on RPM Forge |
| [23:57:01] | kormoc: | yeah |
| [23:57:24] | kormoc: | http://pkgs.repoforge.org/perl-Date-Manip/ |
| [23:57:43] | kormoc: | Do we require a 6+? |
| [23:58:06] | Beirdo: | yes |
| [23:58:12] | wagnerrp: | apparently the new version handles timezones much better |
| [23:58:13] | kormoc: | ahh |
| [23:58:34] | wagnerrp: | including some specific new classes for timezones |
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| [23:58:58] | Beirdo: | and if I *did* change it, it would be for 0.25, but why bother? |
| [23:59:23] | wagnerrp: | if it were something that just came out in april |
| [23:59:30] | wagnerrp: | i would think twice making it a requirement |
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| [23:59:37] | wagnerrp: | bug over a year and a half ago |
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| [23:59:46] | Beirdo: | yeah, it's been that way for a while, IIF |
| [23:59:50] | Beirdo: | IIRC |
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