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| [00:09:57] | EvilBob: | I seem to have "lost" my recordings, The files exist but myth does not seem to find them, is there a way to "rescan" them? |
| [00:12:40] | iamlindoro: | Not presently |
| [00:12:51] | iamlindoro: | though in the future there will be |
| [00:12:59] | iamlindoro: | right now your only option is a DB restore |
| [00:14:30] | iamlindoro: | well, that and one of the various scripts to reinsert them without metadata |
| [00:14:48] | iamlindoro: | myth.rebuilddatabase.pl or whatever it's called |
| [00:15:12] | EvilBob: | Right on, repairing the tables helped |
| [00:15:33] | iamlindoro: | or that :) So sounds like they weren't lost, you just had a broken table or two |
| [00:16:04] | EvilBob: | I found a couple old disks that had recordings from... some point in the past I wanted to add at the same time |
| [00:16:40] | EvilBob: | I think they are my Boy's cartoons honestly so I don't care a lot |
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| [00:17:06] | EvilBob: | thanks iamlindoro |
| [00:17:38] | iamlindoro: | np |
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| [00:29:13] | Gibby: | time for beerrun |
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| [00:30:15] | Gibby: | guess it will have to wait till next caution |
| [00:33:23] | Hilikus: | MMlosh: what do you mean its not necessary? |
| [00:33:30] | Hilikus: | its too much otherwise |
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| [00:45:10] | johnf1911: | how is the stability of the kernel hd-pvr transmitter code these days? |
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| [00:45:25] | johnf1911: | when I was discussing it back in January it wasn't expected to be too great |
| [00:45:34] | johnf1911: | but I read on the wiki that 11.04 has kernel support |
| [00:45:36] | johnf1911: | is it stable? |
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| [00:46:12] | johnf1911: | j-rod|afk: I heard you and awalls were working on it? |
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| [00:47:48] | johnf1911: | 11.04 clearly being the ubuntu release, with associated 2.6.38 kernel |
| [00:48:07] | johnf1911: | hmm, when awall expected it to be stable |
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| [01:01:33] | thecardsmith: | is there a way to change the size of the text on the "info" box (like channel name, blurb about a show)? mine is ultra tiny on my screen |
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| [01:30:18] | sphery: | skd5aner: yep, kor moc_afk had all the info for you (5.0.15 is minimum, changed long ago--and 5.5 should work fine in 0.24-fixes and above) |
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| [02:24:31] | Gibby: | any idea on this? http://pastebin.com/JLr4udJ3 it happens when i change channel, i get video no audio, if i go to the same channel again the audio comes back |
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| [02:38:15] | jpabq: | Gibby, do you have your HD-PVR configure for AAC or AC3? If AAC, you will have better luck with AC3. If AC3, then it looks like when you change channels the HD-PVR is outputting AAC even though it is told to do AC3. I have this vague memory of someone else mentioning that, but I don't remember the specifics. |
| [02:39:36] | Gibby: | just double checked, it is AC3 |
| [02:39:47] | Gibby: | it was doing it 2 days ago, didn't yesterday no it is todya |
| [02:41:23] | Gibby: | and it doesn't do it the first time going into live tv |
| [02:44:04] | jpabq: | You could try playing around with adding an appropriate call to v4l2-ctl in your channel change script, to try and force the HD-PVR "back" into AC3 mode. based on your pastbin, it is outputting AAC — or at least afd is interpreting it as AAC. |
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| [02:51:58] | dudz_: | ok just setup mythtv in our loungeroom |
| [02:52:17] | dudz_: | i don't see the tv tunner card in the list, so i guess i'll need to do something to make it go there |
| [02:52:35] | dudz_: | when running mythtv-serup |
| [02:52:36] | dudz_: | *setup |
| [02:53:35] | dudz_: | it's a Winfast PxDVR3200 H |
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| [03:03:27] | jpabq: | Gibby, do you compile from source? If so, take a look at libs/libmythtv/mpegrecorder.cpp. In there, where ever you see StartEncoding(readfd); insert a line before that which says SetV4L2DeviceOptions(readfd); |
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| [03:07:15] | wagnerrp: | dudz_: you need to go into mythtv-setup, option two |
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| [03:07:36] | wagnerrp: | add a new card, you need to select the type 'dtv dvb capture' |
| [03:08:03] | wagnerrp: | mythtv will autodetect the card located at /dev/dvb/adapter0 |
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| [03:37:06] | taylorr: | does anyone know if the signal monitor works anymore – supposedly you press Alt-F7 and it should appear |
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| [03:39:54] | wagnerrp: | it should, not that it will stall playback while running |
| [03:39:57] | wagnerrp: | note |
| [03:40:19] | taylorr: | wagnerrp: does it work for you? |
| [03:40:29] | wagnerrp: | never used it personally |
| [03:40:39] | taylorr: | it doesn't work on 0.24-fixes or master |
| [03:41:10] | taylorr: | I have a friend who is going to setup MythTV for the first time and was wanted to use the signal monitor to calibrate his antenna |
| [03:41:22] | wagnerrp: | what tuner? |
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| [03:41:53] | taylorr: | any type of tuner: qam,hdpvr,atsc |
| [03:42:12] | wagnerrp: | hdpvr != tuner |
| [03:42:19] | wagnerrp: | and you dont need a signal monitor for qam |
| [03:42:30] | wagnerrp: | specifically... i mean what device |
| [03:42:34] | taylorr: | iamlindoro: does Alt-F7 bring up the signal monitor for you? |
| [03:42:48] | wagnerrp: | hdhomerun, just run their command line utility in a loop |
| [03:42:54] | wagnerrp: | anything else, use femon |
| [03:43:08] | wagnerrp: | or is his antenna actually right next to his tv? |
| [03:44:30] | taylorr: | can you use femon while MythTV is using the tuner? |
| [03:44:36] | wagnerrp: | no |
| [03:44:53] | nvrmore100: | hi everyone, was wondering if anyone might be help with a silly issue…the heme chooser menu is missing on my linux FE, but not my Mac FE, and I haven't the darndest clue why :) |
| [03:44:56] | taylorr: | so again the signal monitor is needed for ATSC |
| [03:45:20] | wagnerrp: | nvrmore100: they should be identical, assuming you are using the same version |
| [03:45:31] | nvrmore100: | hence my confusion :) |
| [03:45:59] | nvrmore100: | tried several themes, thinking that might be the issue (manually changing), but still nothing with that option under setup |
| [03:46:05] | nvrmore100: | mac FE, its there, works great |
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| [03:56:55] | Gibby: | jpabq, no i am on mythbuntu, i will take a look at later this weekend |
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| [03:58:58] | dudz_: | yeah wagnerrp there is a card shown there as the dvb as adapter0 though its not called the name of the card i have, and when i run a channel scan it doesn't find anything. |
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| [05:57:55] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp / Beirdo: http://www.fecitfacta.com/subtle.png |
| [05:58:28] | iamlindoro: | all done without any external trickery |
| [06:01:16] | Beirdo: | nice :) |
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| [06:01:36] | Beirdo: | and you seriously need more recordings :) |
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| [06:01:53] | iamlindoro: | Heh, I game up on a bunch of series, and moved a bunch to MythVideo |
| [06:01:56] | iamlindoro: | er gave up |
| [06:02:24] | Beirdo: | I'm poking at gputrans right ow |
| [06:02:28] | Beirdo: | now rather |
| [06:02:54] | Beirdo: | this will be so much simpler with CUDA |
| [06:03:07] | Beirdo: | I can't believe I got it working as well as I did using Cg |
| [06:03:43] | iamlindoro: | Beirdo: Not OpenCL for cross-vendor? |
| [06:04:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, I'll likely use OpenCL |
| [06:04:18] | Beirdo: | it sits on top of CUDA anyways for nvidia |
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| [06:05:55] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp: Metadata Lookup is a QObject derived class-- I'd like to run it in the jobqueue but creating a command line around it isn't exactly feasible... is there a path to doing this, or do I need to abandon the thought of using the jobqueue? |
| [06:06:11] | Beirdo: | ahhh, that's what the bad_vector's used for... doing scene change detection (also not working) |
| [06:06:34] | iamlindoro: | I suppose in a worst case scenario I *could* write a commandline app that just takes a chanid and starttime like everything else, and updates the DB internally... |
| [06:07:00] | Beirdo: | the last time I did much on this code base was 2007 or so |
| [06:07:02] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [06:07:31] | ** iamlindoro remembers wondering just who this Beirdo guy was, and when he was going get off his ass and finish up this cool GPU transcode tool ;) ** | |
| [06:07:57] | Beirdo: | heh, blame the ex-wife... she got too annoyed with me spending time on it |
| [06:08:09] | Beirdo: | now... not an issue |
| [06:08:27] | iamlindoro: | probably on a number of levels |
| [06:08:45] | Beirdo: | it basically has the code for doing denoising, but not 100% right yet, and done in Cg |
| [06:08:53] | Beirdo: | heh, yeah, on several levels. |
| [06:09:32] | iamlindoro: | ok, I think I'm sold... I guess a mythmetadatalookup app is workable, so long as it does its own DB updates when the lookup completes |
| [06:10:04] | Beirdo: | that sounds doable, yeah |
| [06:13:20] | iamlindoro: | maybe I'll add a flag that says "replace everything with the looked up values" too |
| [06:13:45] | iamlindoro: | so that when someone crashes a DB or reimports a file, all one would need would be title and subtitle or season/ep |
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| [06:15:04] | iamlindoro: | For some reason I can't get mythweb to work again even though I *think* I've done all that's needed in the php bindings |
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| [06:15:31] | Beirdo: | well that's no fun |
| [06:15:31] | iamlindoro: | incremented number of lines, added the new attribute names to MythTVRecording.php... not sure what else I am missing |
| [06:15:36] | GTswagger: | Beirdo: You aware that the new mplayer breaks nuvexport? -frames 1 causes mplayer to go crazy infinitely ... but -frames 0 produces desired output. Oddly, I cannot find -frames 1 *ANYWHERE* in my nuvexport files, but I can find -frames 0 in nuvinfo.pm ... begging the question ... where in the hell did it get -frames 1 from??? |
| [06:16:23] | Beirdo: | GTswagger: put in a ticket. I'll look into it when I get a good break from other fun :) |
| [06:17:11] | Beirdo: | 2011-Jul-01 23:14:45.701136 [6829] <0> 598 frames in 25.761108 (23.21 FPS) |
| [06:17:11] | MythLogBot: | SVN 6829: (branch master) https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/89672e00 |
| [06:17:19] | Beirdo: | that doesn't seem so great. |
| [06:17:28] | Beirdo: | that was 720x480 MPEG2 |
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| [06:17:57] | Beirdo: | but I'd have to see how fast yuvdenoise does it |
| [06:17:58] | Beirdo: | heh |
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| [06:21:49] | Beirdo: | Hmm, I wonder if this would work better in floating point mode rather than fixedpoint |
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| [06:24:50] | Beirdo: | bah |
| [06:24:58] | Beirdo: | bad_count: 0.00000 |
| [06:26:47] | GTswagger: | Beirdo: Ticket 9892 ... and if, by chance, VP8/WebM support appears in nuvexport, I'll send you some microbrew beer and a SouthEast LinuxFest tshirt. :) |
| [06:27:06] | Beirdo: | heh. |
| [06:27:22] | Beirdo: | to go with the NorthWest one I forgot to get. |
| [06:28:00] | GTswagger: | Or better yet, since I'm SELF's VP, I could, ya know, urge you to submit a talk and we can get you down here to drink with us yokels in person |
| [06:28:08] | GTswagger: | :) |
| [06:28:13] | Beirdo: | heh. |
| [06:28:40] | Beirdo: | I think if I were to submit one, it would likely be at LinuxFest NW. Much closer to home |
| [06:28:51] | Beirdo: | but who knows, maybe later on |
| [06:29:09] | GTswagger: | Wellll we did get Garret Honeycutt to SELF this year from Seattle and Leslie Hawthorn from Portland. |
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| [06:29:19] | GTswagger: | We have no objections to raiding the Pacific Northwest talent pool. |
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| [06:29:29] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [06:30:58] | Beirdo: | hmmm |
| [06:31:07] | Beirdo: | OK, I think I've been chasing the wrong thing |
| [06:31:15] | Beirdo: | the decimation is working fine |
| [06:31:24] | Beirdo: | the data it's decimating... is all 0 |
| [06:31:25] | Beirdo: | heh |
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| [06:37:16] | Beirdo: | wonder if I have the threshold wrong. |
| [06:37:23] | Beirdo: | rather.. wonder what it should be |
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| [07:27:26] | Beirdo: | I see |
| [07:27:37] | Beirdo: | my SAD_halfpel seems to be.. borked |
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| [08:56:06] | Beirdo: | my motion detection routines are borked |
| [08:56:08] | Beirdo: | all of em |
| [08:56:22] | Beirdo: | it's time for bed :) More fun tomorrow |
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| [13:05:28] | Mr_Joshi: | is there a way to expire old recordings but also prevent certain recordings from expiring? |
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| [13:08:39] | dekarl: | just turn of autoexpire for certain recordings? |
| [13:08:49] | Mr_Joshi: | how can i do that? |
| [13:09:38] | dekarl: | in mythweb, just click on the clock symbol, in the frontend, via the storage menu of the recording |
| [13:09:50] | Mr_Joshi: | thanks :) |
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| [15:01:28] | tim: | hello hello |
| [15:05:13] | tim: | for some reason I keep getting tfpt open timeout error when i try to pxe boot |
| [15:05:33] | iamlindoro: | ... what does that have to do with MythTV? |
| [15:05:52] | tim: | i installed the mythbuntu diskless-server |
| [15:05:52] | iamlindoro: | You should probably speak to the provider of your distro |
| [15:06:13] | iamlindoro: | Thi channel is for support of MythTV, not your entire distro |
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| [15:06:29] | iamlindoro: | #ubuntu-mythtv or #ubuntu would be more appropriate |
| [15:06:39] | tim: | ok thank you, sorry to bother you |
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| [15:27:21] | wagnerrp: | iamlindoro: you want to just fire off a bunch of update tasks and have the jobqueue run them in batch fashion? |
| [15:28:12] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp: No, I want the jobqueue to run a non-external app |
| [15:28:50] | iamlindoro: | as in, it would be nice not to have to build a command line application to get the jobqueue to run a task |
| [15:30:06] | wagnerrp: | the problem with that is it would prevent breaking the jobqueue out of the backend |
| [15:34:42] | wagnerrp: | in the current design, there really is no 'jobqueue' to talk to |
| [15:34:49] | wagnerrp: | you add a new entry in the database |
| [15:35:08] | wagnerrp: | and some completely independent thread picks i tup |
| [15:35:25] | wagnerrp: | in my rewrite, you talk to the scheduler, but the scheduler doesnt actually do anything on its own |
| [15:35:42] | wagnerrp: | rather, it fires off tasks over mythproto |
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| [18:22:09] | kwtm2: | MythTV is giving me no end of frustration! I've tried to reinstall but apparently there is an already existent mythtv database to which I don't know the password! Where is this file stored, so that I can delete it and to a clean installation? |
| [18:22:50] | wagnerrp: | you should never edit database files directly |
| [18:23:08] | wagnerrp: | all manipulation of said files should be done through the database server |
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| [18:23:50] | wagnerrp: | if you dont know the password you set for access to the mythtv database, then create a new one |
| [18:24:12] | wagnerrp: | grant all on mythconverg.* to 'user'@'host' identified by 'password'; |
| [18:24:13] | iamlindoro: | PS, that's the Database and your packages giving you no end of frustration |
| [18:24:52] | iamlindoro: | since mythtv doesn't create or drop databases for you... it just uses the one you tell it to. Mythtv is innocent in all of this. |
| [18:27:11] | kwtm2: | create a new password, or a new database? |
| [18:27:22] | wagnerrp: | a new password |
| [18:27:27] | wagnerrp: | with that command i just gave you |
| [18:27:28] | kwtm2: | You can do that?? |
| [18:27:35] | wagnerrp: | i just showed you how |
| [18:28:01] | kwtm2: | There's no grant command... you mean literally "grant all on mythconverg.* ..." etc? |
| [18:28:17] | wagnerrp: | exactly what i typed |
| [18:28:21] | wagnerrp: | that is a mysql command |
| [18:28:27] | wagnerrp: | meaning you have to send that command to the mysql server |
| [18:28:34] | wagnerrp: | as the root mysql user |
| [18:28:52] | wagnerrp: | (note that the mysql root user has no relation to your system root user) |
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| [18:33:15] | kwtm2: | Ok, so it's more MySQL that I have to learn ... |
| [18:33:29] | kwtm2: | Then I should ask about the relationship between MySQL and MythTV. |
| [18:33:32] | wagnerrp: | no mysql to learn |
| [18:33:45] | wagnerrp: | run 'mysql' on the command line to get into the interactive client |
| [18:33:49] | kwtm2: | Well, if I understand you correctly, I have to know how to ... |
| [18:34:06] | wagnerrp: | then run that command, substituting the the user, host, and password you want |
| [18:34:07] | kwtm2: | ahhh, so I run the mysql command. See? Told you I have to learn about MySQL. |
| [18:35:00] | kwtm2: | Well, I really do want to understand it instead of just typing in commands, so if you wouldn't mind me asking ... for a new MythTV installation, where it had previously been (seemingly) working, with channels set up and program guide from SchedulesDirect in place... |
| [18:35:12] | kwtm2: | ... why would it say "I |
| [18:35:28] | kwtm2: | ... why would it say "that program is already recorded" when I tell it to record a TV program? |
| [18:35:28] | wagnerrp: | you are granting all permissions to the mythconverg database (the one mythtv uses by default) to the user to specify |
| [18:35:50] | kwtm2: | Sorry, I meant I wanted to know why it failed before. It was only because it failed that I suspected maybe it had the password wrong. |
| [18:36:12] | wagnerrp: | if you have the password wrong, mythtv will refuse to start |
| [18:36:13] | kwtm2: | So I told MythTV to use a different password, and that's when all hell broke loose |
| [18:36:17] | wagnerrp: | as it cannot access the database |
| [18:36:35] | kwtm2: | Well, I would have expected that when I told MythTV to go back to the old password, everything would go back to normal. |
| [18:36:44] | wagnerrp: | and it should |
| [18:36:57] | kwtm2: | Apparently that is not the case. Once MythTV has decided that the password is wrong, it will not work with the old password. |
| [18:37:09] | wagnerrp: | it certainly will |
| [18:37:10] | kwtm2: | Also it will switch the GUI theme to something ugly which I have never specified or even seen before. |
| [18:37:16] | wagnerrp: | how exactly did you tell mythtv to use another password? |
| [18:37:31] | kwtm2: | For the MythTV front end, under Utilities/Setup > Setup > General, |
| [18:37:52] | kwtm2: | I think the 1st or 2nd screen has the password. I noted the current password, then changed it to a password from a previous installation |
| [18:38:13] | kwtm2: | (thinking that maybe there was a persistent password from previous even though I was supposed to have purged everthing) |
| [18:38:15] | wagnerrp: | when it failed to connect, it should have opened straight into the database configuration screen |
| [18:38:25] | kwtm2: | It did go straight into the db config screen. |
| [18:38:35] | wagnerrp: | and if you set the old password back, it should have reverted to exactly the way it was before |
| [18:38:39] | kwtm2: | Then it asked me for password, and I tried various combinations but it didn't work. |
| [18:39:06] | kwtm2: | Let me ask you this: under the working config Util/Setup > Setup > General, that password that it displays — that would be the current working password, right? |
| [18:39:27] | wagnerrp: | should be, yes |
| [18:39:31] | kwtm2: | It could not have been using one particular password but displaying a different password on that config screen (which, since I never used before, still worked)? |
| [18:39:45] | kwtm2: | Ok, that's what I thought. Well, maybe I copied the password wrong then .. that's the only possibility I have. |
| [18:39:54] | kwtm2: | BUt that still doesn't explain the original problem which precipitated this. |
| [18:40:13] | kwtm2: | It *was* working, and I said "record this program" and it said "Oh, it's already been recorded, so I won't bother recording again." |
| [18:40:31] | kwtm2: | I said "Really? Let's watch the program" and it said "I can't find the program files!" |
| [18:40:46] | wagnerrp: | mythtv will tell you a program is already recorded if there is a matching entry already in the database as recorded |
| [18:40:58] | wagnerrp: | using whatever duplicate detection method you had set for that rule |
| [18:41:00] | kwtm2: | So it looks like I erased all the previous MythTV recordings (as I intended) but there is an entry in the database, which I guess I didn't delete. |
| [18:41:19] | wagnerrp: | you erased the recordings directly in the filesystem? |
| [18:41:31] | kwtm2: | So, next question for you: can I safely issue whatever MySQL command there is to erase that database? (I get the feeling that the "database" is not just one file.) |
| [18:41:38] | kwtm2: | I had to reinstall my system from a failing hard drive. |
| [18:41:56] | wagnerrp: | do not think of the database as a file |
| [18:42:03] | wagnerrp: | thats a bad concept |
| [18:42:13] | wagnerrp: | you should not interact with the database files from the command line ever |
| [18:42:19] | kwtm2: | I did not bother transferring my MythTV recordings from previous. It looks like I did, however, inadvertently transfer the database containing MythTV info from the previous, so I'm still haunted by the ghost of my previous recordings. |
| [18:42:42] | wagnerrp: | mythtv stores all its information in the database |
| [18:42:51] | kwtm2: | wagnerrp: Well, there's more MySQL, then. All this I am learning. Ok, so it sounds like there is some MySQL server running somewhere, and I have to tell it to erase the database. |
| [18:42:54] | wagnerrp: | so if you recovered from a database backup, you recovered all those old recording entries as well |
| [18:43:16] | wagnerrp: | if you erase the database and create a new one, you erase everything |
| [18:43:18] | kwtm2: | I had no intention of recovering from the database backup, but since I copied everything else over, I apparently copied the database, too, whatever that is. |
| [18:43:25] | wagnerrp: | which includes all your configurations, all your recording rules, etc... |
| [18:43:29] | kwtm2: | That's fine, I am happy erasing the database. |
| [18:43:41] | wagnerrp: | then 'drop database mythconverg;' |
| [18:43:52] | wagnerrp: | and then follow the installation instructions you used to create the database in the first place |
| [18:43:53] | kwtm2: | I really really just want to start over. But apparently the MythTV reinstallation fails to reinitialize the database. |
| [18:44:31] | kwtm2: | I didn't really have any installation instructions used to create the database in the first place; I just installed the package (sudo apt-get in Ubuntu). Would that reinstall everything? |
| [18:45:02] | wagnerrp: | the seek in #ubuntu-mythtv how to best flush the database and restart |
| [18:45:05] | kwtm2: | I guess the answer should be yes, but I am now leery since apt-get purge mythtv should also have erased the database and it failed to do so. Not sure how much to trust those package maintainers at Ubuntu. |
| [18:45:12] | wagnerrp: | since they do much of the manual installation tasks for you |
| [18:45:13] | kwtm2: | Ah, I didn't realize there was such a channel. |
| [18:45:39] | iamlindoro: | packagers are wise not to purge user data when purging packages |
| [18:45:40] | wagnerrp: | purging the mythtv package should not delete the database |
| [18:46:25] | wagnerrp: | package managers should only delete those files that were created during installation of the package |
| [18:46:43] | kwtm2: | Are you sure? i woudl agree with you if we were talking about deleting packages, but to purge means to delete all config info, too. |
| [18:47:05] | kwtm2: | But wasn't the mythconverg database created with installation of mythtv? Did it already exist? |
| [18:47:17] | iamlindoro: | If you purges office and it deleted all of your document files, would you be happy? |
| [18:47:17] | iamlindoro: | It's quite likely that the mythbuntu packagers have a well thought out way of handling your issue, and that you're simply unaware of it... ie, "dpkg-reconfigure something something" |
| [18:47:32] | wagnerrp: | kwtm2: the problem is that mythtv is not confined to any specific system |
| [18:47:59] | wagnerrp: | lets say you remove the package from some dedicated frontend, and it deletes the database |
| [18:48:10] | kwtm2: | iamlindoro: Absolutely!! If I didn't want my document files deleted, I'd have used "delete" not "purge". |
| [18:48:17] | wagnerrp: | now youve lost access to all your recordings, and your backend and other frontends will no longer function |
| [18:48:38] | kwtm2: | wagnerrp: That's wonderful! I know how to set it up. I don't know how to deal with MySQL demons. |
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| [18:49:43] | iamlindoro: | kwtm2: then you are the rare user who would rather drop a tactical nuclear weapon than learn how to fix the issue. Again, it's quite likely that your issue has a properly managed solution, you just don't know about it-- and all it takes is asking the people who know it (or finding the right documentation) |
| [18:50:13] | kwtm2: | Well, I guess I've set it up before the first time, and I can set it up again. But when that doesn't solve the problem, I don't know how to start with a clean slate. |
| [18:50:27] | wagnerrp: | there is a script on the wiki, 'Find_orphans.py', that will remove all orphaned recording entries |
| [18:50:40] | wagnerrp: | it will flush out all your existing recordings, and allow mythtv to continue operating as normal |
| [18:50:54] | kwtm2: | I believe there should never be a situation where, if someone is willing to start with a clean slate |
| [18:51:48] | wagnerrp: | however if you want to start with a clean slate, and dont know how to maneuver the ubuntu package manager to create the database for you |
| [18:51:52] | wagnerrp: | http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-6.html#ss6.2 |
| [18:52:31] | wagnerrp: | those are the manual installation instructions for those whose package managers dont do things for them |
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| [18:56:03] | kwtm2: | Thanks. Will try ubuntu-mythtv first, then try that plan. |
| [18:56:16] | kwtm2: | Sorry about the desultory conversation --taking care of a toddler at the same time. |
| [18:57:19] | kwtm2: | Anyway, first I'll try that grant all mythconverg thing. |
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| [21:28:30] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp: Bearing in mind it is 99% likely I have caused this issue myself with my pginfo changes, can you help me with: http://pastebin.com/mUZnW1NT |
| [21:32:52] | wagnerrp: | is this in committed code, or your own branch? |
| [21:33:03] | wagnerrp: | s/committed/pushed/ |
| [21:33:20] | iamlindoro: | local code |
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| [21:33:29] | iamlindoro: | The onyl changes I have made to the python bindings are: |
| [21:33:54] | iamlindoro: | http://pastebin.com/9E2Gmyu9 |
| [21:36:45] | wagnerrp: | category is now an integer? |
| [21:37:10] | wagnerrp: | no, you reordered stuff |
| [21:37:23] | wagnerrp: | oh yeah! this is going to cause 3rd party stuff pain |
| [21:39:11] | wagnerrp: | yeah, i dont know why that would cause problems |
| [21:39:11] | iamlindoro: | yes, reordered, yes, pain |
| [21:39:23] | wagnerrp: | that error comes from a failed import |
| [21:39:30] | wagnerrp: | which means the stuff simply isnt there to import |
| [21:39:33] | iamlindoro: | not intentional.. mostly done out of a desire to keep like types together... but if I had it to do again... |
| [21:39:48] | wagnerrp: | however i dont see anything in there which would cause it to fail to install |
| [21:40:09] | wagnerrp: | open python, and see if you can 'import MythTV' |
| [21:40:25] | iamlindoro: | yup |
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| [21:43:29] | iamlindoro: | yeah, same from the command line, not just when called from code. Hmmm |
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| [21:46:49] | wagnerrp: | youre saying tmdb.py works from the command line? |
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| [21:48:29] | wagnerrp: | what about 'import MythTV.tmdb.tmdb_api'? |
| [21:48:56] | wagnerrp: | and then 'from MythTV.tmdb.tmdb_ui import BaseUI' |
| [21:48:59] | iamlindoro: | no, I'm saying the same query fails |
| [21:49:06] | wagnerrp: | oh |
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| [21:50:09] | iamlindoro: | File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module> |
| [21:50:09] | iamlindoro: | File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/MythTV/tmdb/tmdb_api.py", line 50, in <module> |
| [21:50:09] | iamlindoro: | from tmdb_ui import BaseUI, ConsoleUI |
| [21:50:09] | iamlindoro: | ImportError: cannot import name BaseUI |
| [21:51:01] | wagnerrp: | /usr/local/lib? |
| [21:51:33] | wagnerrp: | dist-packages, rather than the default site-packages, is a debian/ubuntu thing |
| [21:51:44] | wagnerrp: | but i thought they stored their stuff to /usr/lib/python... |
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| [21:52:16] | nasa01: | Hi, I saw on the mailing list discussion about the "waited 100ms for video buffer" errors (along with pauses in playback). But I didn't see a solution — is there one? |
| [21:52:23] | wagnerrp: | the installer is supposed to drop to the default location the OS prefers if the prefix is /usr or /usr/local |
| [21:52:59] | wagnerrp: | in any case, do you have a /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/MythTV/tmdb/tmdb_ui.py? |
| [21:54:01] | iamlindoro: | I didn't manually put anything anywhere, if that's what you're asking |
| [21:54:01] | iamlindoro: | All distro-provided stuff, and regular make install of myth |
| [21:54:02] | iamlindoro: | though that file is indeed there |
| [21:54:15] | iamlindoro: | yep |
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| [22:19:47] | dibbz: | i built a new backend and migrated my recordings over, upgraded my deb squeeze frontend |
| [22:20:03] | dibbz: | and broke vdpau and audio in the process :( |
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| [22:21:10] | dibbz: | i was on 0.24 fixes before the upgrade, and i've taken my old vdpau profilegroups and settings table over to the new install |
| [22:21:38] | dibbz: | so, same audio device, same vdpau filters |
| [22:22:10] | dibbz: | no dice, the only thing i cant control was the squeeze dist upgrade and new libav*52/ffmpeg packages from debian-multimedia |
| [22:22:11] | wagnerrp: | how did you take them over? |
| [22:22:22] | dibbz: | as per the wiki |
| [22:22:28] | wagnerrp: | link? |
| [22:22:35] | dibbz: | oh the settings? |
| [22:22:47] | dibbz: | typed them into the mysql prompt |
| [22:23:00] | wagnerrp: | uh huh... likely you did it improperly |
| [22:23:14] | wagnerrp: | which is why we tell people not to manually change things in mysql |
| [22:23:35] | dibbz: | after 12 hours of doing it on the frontend |
| [22:23:50] | wagnerrp: | 12 hours??? |
| [22:24:02] | dibbz: | well most of yesterday wondering wtf i have vdpau blocks |
| [22:24:14] | wagnerrp: | theres nothing you do in a recording group that cannot be reproduced in about five minutes |
| [22:24:21] | dibbz: | so i rolled back nvidia driver |
| [22:24:40] | dibbz: | yes reproduced it many times |
| [22:24:47] | wagnerrp: | do you still have the dump of your original database before the upgrade? |
| [22:25:09] | dibbz: | yeh i moved the datyabase too, so i'm looking at them side by side |
| [22:25:23] | wagnerrp: | what do you mean by 'moved the database too' |
| [22:25:35] | dibbz: | mysql dump |
| [22:25:37] | wagnerrp: | you mean you took the actual files that the database uses to store files? |
| [22:25:38] | dibbz: | copy |
| [22:25:39] | dibbz: | import |
| [22:25:55] | wagnerrp: | ok, just making sure |
| [22:26:09] | wagnerrp: | you never want to make a binary copy of the mysql database files, always do a dump and import |
| [22:26:12] | dibbz: | i've beena unix admin for 24 years *cough* |
| [22:26:27] | dibbz: | lol sco xenix certified :P |
| [22:26:31] | dibbz: | anyway |
| [22:27:00] | dibbz: | i guess if i was to have a question |
| [22:27:17] | wagnerrp: | i would dump what you currently have, import back from the backup |
| [22:27:23] | wagnerrp: | and then run http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Database_Backup_an . . . d_or_backend |
| [22:27:41] | wagnerrp: | just take everything, settings and all from the old system |
| [22:27:44] | dibbz: | yeh |
| [22:28:39] | dibbz: | so thinging crazy like debian-multimedia is evil or nvidia 270/275 breaking vdpau |
| [22:28:43] | dibbz: | err nothing |
| [22:29:01] | dibbz: | i guess was my real concern |
| [22:29:04] | wagnerrp: | there were issues in the early versions of the 260.x driver set |
| [22:29:13] | wagnerrp: | but ive not heard any problems with the 270/275 sets |
| [22:29:14] | dibbz: | i actually upgraded from 260 |
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| [22:31:30] | dibbz: | thanks.. |
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| [23:40:46] | kusznir: | hi all: I'm trying to upgrade my myth fe/be (LinHes distro). I'm running mythtv-setup to do the schema update and such, and it fails. |
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| [23:41:08] | kusznir: | The error message is "table 'internetcontent' already exists. |
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| [23:41:28] | kusznir: | I tried going into the db and removing it by hand, then rerunning it by hand, but it still fails. |
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| [23:41:38] | kusznir: | (by fails, mythtv-setup exits and that's the error message at the prompt) |
| [23:41:45] | kusznir: | any suggestions? |
| [23:42:02] | kusznir: | (I'd just start over with a clean slate except I have a bunch of recordings I want to keep) |
| [23:43:42] | kusznir: | db schema version 1257, trying to go to 1264 |
| [23:43:50] | kusznir: | It fails on the 1258 schema upgrade |
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