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| [00:02:29] | wagnerrp: | how dare mythtv be written in C++/Qt |
| [00:02:36] | wagnerrp: | i demand it be rewritten in python |
| [00:02:42] | wagnerrp: | thats just how FOSS works |
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| [00:15:09] | wagnerrp: | sphery: think i should try to migrate these socket changes over to the master branch? |
| [00:15:21] | wagnerrp: | the jobqueue is still a ways off |
| [00:15:33] | wagnerrp: | but i think i can have the socket stuff in and tested by the end of the weekend |
| [00:16:01] | wagnerrp: | id like to have the file server for 0.25, even if the jobqueue isnt ready yet |
| [00:19:01] | sphery: | that sounds good to me... might want to bounce it off some of the others, though--especially those that think big changes should be on mondays, not end of week |
| [00:19:32] | sphery: | wagnerrp: ^^^ (just realized you sent that a while ago) |
| [00:20:32] | wagnerrp: | yeah, like three minutes |
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| [01:01:39] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo or xris: if i want to delete a branch and restart it, but that branch has been pushed to github |
| [01:01:48] | wagnerrp: | is there any non-disruptive way to do that? |
| [01:02:18] | xris: | wagnerrp: safer to create one with a new name |
| [01:02:58] | xris: | but if you don't think anyone else has downloaded the branch from github (or plans to use it), you can push --delete on the remote branch, and then recreate it. |
| [01:03:12] | xris: | but you'll get conflicts if anyone has downloaded it and tries to push changes back on it |
| [01:06:21] | Beirdo: | so as I've said before, we're probably best off just leaving them there until we release 0.25, and then clean up all the now unneeded branches at once |
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| [02:53:10] | skd5aner: | Stupid power outage – now my mythbackends aren't playing nicely :P |
| [02:54:43] | sphery: | optimize_mythdb.pl |
| [02:54:45] | skd5aner: | slave backend is constantly spitting out – http://pastebin.com/BzLbUfVF |
| [02:54:51] | skd5aner: | sphery: already ran that (twice) |
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| [02:55:18] | maek: | does mythtv it self have a upnp client? |
| [02:55:26] | sphery: | then try mysqlcheck |
| [02:55:48] | sphery: | I'll bet you have a crashed table that can't be fixed automatically |
| [02:56:48] | sphery: | maek: no, only a upnp server. eventually we should have a client |
| [02:57:15] | maek: | sphery: so there is no way to get upnp play back into a myth tv "front end" ? |
| [02:57:43] | skd5aner: | sphery: running... |
| [02:57:48] | sphery: | no, closest putting whatever file the other server has into mythvideo directories |
| [02:58:04] | maek: | ok |
| [02:58:05] | maek: | ty :) |
| [02:58:16] | sphery: | so if it's some device that also acts as a file server, just mount its directory under your mythvideo directories |
| [02:58:31] | sphery: | otherwise, you'd have to copy the file to mythtv |
| [02:58:35] | sphery: | (or use some other player) |
| [03:00:04] | maek: | so if I nfs mount an export and add the dir myth will stream it? |
| [03:00:16] | skd5aner: | sphery: they all came back ok except for 3... |
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| [03:00:35] | sphery: | 3 tables bad? |
| [03:00:38] | maek: | can you swap out the mythtv player for vlc? |
| [03:00:40] | sphery: | one of which is storagegroup, right? |
| [03:00:46] | skd5aner: | weatherdatalayout, weatherscrees, and weathersourceettings... but none of those should matter |
| [03:00:51] | wagnerrp: | no, mythtv does not use an external player |
| [03:00:58] | sphery: | maek: no, but you can have mythtv execute external apps |
| [03:01:01] | skd5aner: | and they didn't come back "Bad" they came back as 'The storage engine for the table doesn't support repair" |
| [03:01:02] | wagnerrp: | skd5aner: odd that only the innodb tables would break |
| [03:01:14] | sphery: | skd5aner: hmmm... yeah, those shouldn't matter |
| [03:01:15] | skd5aner: | not bad... sorry, wasn't spitting it all out fast enough |
| [03:01:35] | skd5aner: | so... what else could have broke? |
| [03:01:45] | maek: | sphery: thanks again |
| [03:02:03] | sphery: | skd5aner: your system mounts failed? |
| [03:02:26] | skd5aner: | WHOA... |
| [03:02:37] | sphery: | Nelly |
| [03:02:43] | skd5aner: | 2011-05–27 23:02:18.752 adding: tzcheck as a client (events: 0) |
| [03:02:43] | skd5aner: | 2011-05–27 23:02:25.387 adding: raptor as a slave backend server |
| [03:02:50] | skd5aner: | tzcheck as a client? wtf? |
| [03:02:56] | wagnerrp: | yeah, that happens |
| [03:02:58] | skd5aner: | that was on the master backend when I launced the slave backend |
| [03:03:11] | wagnerrp: | its some special tag for testing the time zone |
| [03:03:14] | wagnerrp: | before fully connecting |
| [03:03:16] | skd5aner: | ah, ok |
| [03:03:17] | sphery: | yeah, it's a temp connection that's a workaround for a protocol limitation |
| [03:03:25] | wagnerrp: | protocol limitation? |
| [03:03:41] | sphery: | and one I plan to remove as soon as we have a way to use services api from within mythtv |
| [03:03:41] | ** wagnerrp knows of no such limitation ** | |
| [03:04:08] | skd5aner: | I'm gonna send a couple outputs from the master and slave via pastebin here in a sec... |
| [03:04:22] | sphery: | limitation that if you use the protocol before the gcontext has set up the connections, you end up creating a command and monitor connection and end up creating a recursive event loop |
| [03:04:25] | skd5aner: | You can see the correlation between log output on both of them |
| [03:04:49] | sphery: | did you check that your file system is actually good with all mounts in place? |
| [03:04:52] | wagnerrp: | so its less of a protocol limitation |
| [03:04:59] | skd5aner: | Master Backend – http://pastebin.com/3yzZQff8 |
| [03:05:04] | wagnerrp: | and more of a limitation of how the shared connection is handled in gCoreContext |
| [03:05:20] | wagnerrp: | maek: if your upnp server supports nfs, does that also mean its a full linux machine? |
| [03:05:45] | skd5aner: | Slave backend – http://pastebin.com/pxYNPUiH |
| [03:05:50] | maek: | wagnerrp: yeah its just a centos box |
| [03:06:27] | wagnerrp: | maek: is it a permanent machine on your network? |
| [03:06:56] | maek: | wagnerrp: yes |
| [03:07:10] | wagnerrp: | so install mythtv, run a backend, and define a Videos storage group on it |
| [03:07:28] | skd5aner: | sphery, wagnerrp: you can see specific log output on the master backend that coordinates with the timestamps on the slave |
| [03:07:40] | wagnerrp: | or better, make that your master backend, and move your tuners over there |
| [03:08:09] | maek: | wagnerrp: the tuner card wont fit and I dont have a cable split for it |
| [03:08:31] | maek: | wagnerrp: if I make it another backend can my all in one myth tv box also get content from it? |
| [03:08:56] | skd5aner: | maek: go away... I need exclusive help here and you're interfering! |
| [03:09:01] | skd5aner: | maek: totally kidding ;) |
| [03:09:03] | wagnerrp: | mythvideo will stream content from any backend with a Videos storage group defined |
| [03:09:10] | maek: | skd5aner: fair enough :) |
| [03:09:14] | skd5aner: | heh |
| [03:09:18] | maek: | wagnerrp: ok thanks |
| [03:09:34] | ** maek shoves skd5aner to the front of the line ** | |
| [03:09:34] | wagnerrp: | sphery: any 'bad' happen that you know of with a tunerless slave? i know its not supported or tested |
| [03:09:35] | skd5aner: | no, seriously... I'm joking around... keep asking quesitons! |
| [03:09:36] | skd5aner: | :) |
| [03:11:01] | sphery: | wagnerrp: last I knew file system stuff didn't work properly |
| [03:11:13] | sphery: | because it's all based on encoderlist, which, by definition, is based on encoders |
| [03:11:27] | sphery: | don't know if CM fixed that part or not, yet |
| [03:11:38] | ** iamlindoro promises to personally fix skd5aner good ** | |
| [03:12:06] | skd5aner: | nice... it's about time I get personal 1 on 1 support around here... geeze |
| [03:12:23] | ** iamlindoro selects a tire iron for "fixing" ** | |
| [03:12:30] | ** skd5aner waits for iamlindoro to obtain channel opporator status in 3... 2... 1... ** | |
| [03:12:47] | Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +o iamlindoro | |
| [03:12:50] | iamlindoro has been kicked from #mythtv-users by iamlindoro!~iamlindor@mythtv/developer/iamlindoro (iamlindoro) | |
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| [03:12:54] | iamlindoro: | whoops, missed |
| [03:13:01] | skd5aner: | clunk |
| [03:13:16] | skd5aner: | wow... that escalated really quickly |
| [03:13:31] | iamlindoro: | I did not see that coming |
| [03:13:38] | skd5aner: | Where did you get that hand grenade Brick? |
| [03:13:42] | iamlindoro: | I threw a trident |
| [03:14:07] | wagnerrp: | theres a party in my pants |
| [03:14:18] | skd5aner: | a pants party? |
| [03:14:32] | wagnerrp: | do you want to come to the pants party? |
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| [03:15:48] | maek: | are you inviting me to a party in your pants? |
| [03:15:53] | skd5aner: | so anyone have any idea why my two backends are doing a repeating tango of connecting, then saying no directories fouind for file storage, then haveing a MythSocket Error ---- REPEAT |
| [03:16:40] | wagnerrp: | check your master and local IPs |
| [03:18:07] | skd5aner: | they show correct in ifconfig... |
| [03:18:17] | skd5aner: | everything is connecting properly for a few seconds, and then disconnecting |
| [03:18:35] | iamlindoro: | skd5aner, He's suggesting that you check them in mythtv-setup |
| [03:18:51] | skd5aner: | was just going to ask if that's where you wanted me to check |
| [03:18:52] | skd5aner: | looking now |
| [03:19:22] | skd5aner: | could a power outage affect that? I mean... it identifies and connects between the two? |
| [03:19:43] | sphery: | skd5aner: have you tried restarting (and/or rebooting) the master backend? |
| [03:19:45] | iamlindoro: | I daresay wagnerrp is suggesting based on the symptoms, rather than a guess of what happened-- I would have suggested same |
| [03:19:48] | skd5aner: | a few times |
| [03:20:04] | skd5aner: | If you look at the pastebin's above, the dance goes like this... |
| [03:21:26] | skd5aner: | eh, too hard to summarize |
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| [03:24:09] | ** iamlindoro wonders how long it will take for someone to throw the "Typical open source jerk suggesting we fix it ourselves" in his face on -users... ** | |
| [03:24:51] | iamlindoro: | "How dare you tell me what to do with my spare time (while I tell you what to do with yours)..." |
| [03:25:04] | sphery: | well, the OP did the open source thing right--send an e-mail to the list to shame developers into fixing their bad code |
| [03:25:10] | skd5aner: | what's the current recomended way of removing orphaned items in the DB and/or file system? |
| [03:25:10] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [03:25:14] | Beirdo: | and me too ;) |
| [03:25:15] | sphery: | so, of course, you're just deflecting, now |
| [03:25:28] | sphery: | skd5aner: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Find_orphans.py |
| [03:25:38] | sphery: | though it requires a working master backend and storage groups :) |
| [03:25:56] | sphery: | (and potentially working remote backends, depending on config) |
| [03:25:58] | wagnerrp: | ugh.... another thing ive got to look at |
| [03:26:11] | sphery: | what? there's a problem with that? |
| [03:26:18] | sphery: | that = find_orphans.py? |
| [03:26:20] | wagnerrp: | reports of it doing strange things |
| [03:26:24] | sphery: | ahhh |
| [03:26:34] | sphery: | last I ran it, it worked fine |
| [03:26:39] | wagnerrp: | best i can guess is recordings shared over NFS, with the paths defined on both machines |
| [03:26:54] | wagnerrp: | im not sure if i handle that properly |
| [03:26:54] | sphery: | ahhh, I don't have such a config |
| [03:27:05] | sphery: | I don't much care for nfs |
| [03:28:03] | wagnerrp: | yeah, i dont have such a config either |
| [03:28:09] | wagnerrp: | and didnt think of it when i designed it |
| [03:28:49] | skd5aner: | first time in a long time I feel stumped about how to fix an issue with my mythtv setup |
| [03:28:53] | sphery: | wow, Hyundai and House just taught me about the pseudo heart in my calves |
| [03:28:54] | wagnerrp: | ugh, and more unicode issues |
| [03:28:57] | ** skd5aner very frustrated ** | |
| [03:29:21] | wagnerrp: | i should probably respond to him |
| [03:29:35] | sphery: | skd5aner: run with -v file,extra |
| [03:29:41] | sphery: | remote backends |
| [03:30:06] | sphery: | wagnerrp: heh, yeah, wondered if that unicode thing was one of your already fixed things |
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| [03:30:54] | skd5aner: | sphery: also through socket on there |
| [03:30:58] | skd5aner: | since it says it's a socket error |
| [03:31:36] | sphery: | hmmmm... do a query on your storagegroup table |
| [03:31:42] | sphery: | see if you have any null chars in there |
| [03:31:43] | skd5aner: | k... |
| [03:32:07] | skd5aner: | can you help with the query? |
| [03:32:08] | sphery: | (which may show with truncated data... unless you have to actually do a hex() to see them...) |
| [03:32:15] | skd5aner: | actually |
| [03:32:18] | sphery: | try select * from storagegroup; to start |
| [03:32:20] | skd5aner: | let me just look at all of it |
| [03:32:22] | skd5aner: | yea |
| [03:34:52] | skd5aner: | sphery: http://pastebin.com/t0def2wi |
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| [03:36:09] | sphery: | skd5aner: select hex(groupname), hex(hostname), hex(dirname) from storagegroup; |
| [03:36:40] | sphery: | and, btw, does that look right for what you thought should be in storage groups? |
| [03:36:59] | skd5aner: | http://pastebin.com/UsYDdUfS |
| [03:37:01] | skd5aner: | yes |
| [03:37:39] | sphery: | definitely no nulls... there goes that theory |
| [03:37:43] | skd5aner: | heh |
| [03:37:58] | sphery: | thought maybe it corrupted a row on repair |
| [03:39:35] | sphery: | hmmm... interesting. This is failing in MainServer::HandleQueryFreeSpace(). Did you just upgrade? |
| [03:39:40] | sphery: | what's your --version? |
| [03:39:42] | skd5aner: | no... |
| [03:39:44] | skd5aner: | hang on a sec... |
| [03:40:05] | wagnerrp: | sphery: i have no idea what this problem he was having with find_orphans was though |
| [03:40:49] | sphery: | that makes it really hard to fix... :( |
| [03:42:15] | skd5aner: | sphery: might have figured somethign out here... just a sec |
| [03:42:26] | sphery: | great--because I'm out of ideas |
| [03:42:28] | skd5aner: | might be one of those forehead slap moments |
| [03:42:52] | ** iamlindoro preemptively demands an apology and public flogging ** | |
| [03:42:53] | wagnerrp: | on second thought, im suffering the problem he was having with find_orphans |
| [03:42:56] | wagnerrp: | WTF |
| [03:43:48] | skd5aner: | sphery: well, as iamlindoro predicted... my mounts were messed up – and of course, I thought I checked that, but I had the wrong terminal up and was confusing NFS mounts :/ |
| [03:43:51] | sphery: | iamlindoro: I'm sorry for not figuring out skd5aner's problem. |
| [03:44:00] | sphery: | let the flogging commence... I'm braced for it. |
| [03:44:10] | iamlindoro: | flogging for everyone! |
| [03:44:13] | sphery: | wait... I said mounts, too |
| [03:44:22] | ** skd5aner slaps forehead... ** | |
| [03:44:29] | iamlindoro: | Flogging for some... miniature american flags for others! |
| [03:44:38] | skd5aner: | sphery: well, then you're spared! |
| [03:44:49] | sphery: | phewwww... that was close |
| [03:45:09] | skd5aner: | Put me in the stocks and pillory for the night |
| [03:46:12] | sphery: | oh, no you don't. we're not putting you in pill storage |
| [03:46:39] | iamlindoro: | not if the release notes aren't up to date, anyway |
| [03:47:34] | skd5aner: | still, as a user, I'm obligated by user-law to publically point out that the developers should have known that this could have happened, and created a solution to fix the issue for me OR minimally, tell me exactly what was wrong with my unique configuration so that I could resolve it without "lookin' a fool" |
| [03:48:49] | skd5aner: | iamlindoro: sweet, my saving grace is that I'm 2 weeks behind... I knew that my extremely busy real-life "distractions" would pay off in dividends one of these days! |
| [03:49:14] | sphery: | yes... I'll change the message from "No directories found for file storage. Please check the Storage Groups setting for this backend." and add, "and make sure you check that the directories are actually mounted. No, really, go check it again. I'm waiting!" |
| [03:50:10] | sphery: | OK. Just saw a cell phone commercial I actually liked. |
| [03:50:22] | ** skd5aner hates feeling this dumb ** | |
| [03:50:40] | sphery: | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcr2uWkJkzI |
| [03:50:49] | skd5aner: | anyway – gave me a reason to escape the living room while the wife chats with her mom on skype |
| [03:51:27] | skd5aner: | sphery: yea, saw that few days ago... I kinda thought it was dumb, but appreciate what they're going for there |
| [03:51:38] | sphery: | yeah, but dumb enough to be funny |
| [03:51:47] | sphery: | which is why I liked it |
| [03:51:58] | skd5aner: | I did appreciate this recent development though – http://www.droid-life.com/2011/05/26/htc-ceo- . . . -officially/ |
| [03:52:01] | sphery: | at least they didn't say, "The highest resolution phone screen ever." |
| [03:52:17] | sphery: | (which implies no one will ever make a higher-resolution screen in the future) |
| [03:52:24] | sphery: | yeah, saw that |
| [03:52:26] | skd5aner: | hurray for consumer feedback of a vocal minority actually making an impact |
| [03:53:05] | sphery: | htc may be my openmoko replacement for hardware |
| [03:54:03] | sphery: | (replacement from the standpoint of, "replaces the hardware I dreamed of one day being able to use," since I don't actually use my Freerunner as a phone) |
| [03:54:14] | skd5aner: | I've got a friend who is very obssessed with his Nexus S, but for some reason had an iphone 4 for a few weeks for a job, and was really impressed with it's "retina" display |
| [03:54:21] | sphery: | we just need to create a usable software stack to go with it |
| [03:54:44] | sphery: | yeah, iphone 4 display is nice... just not, "The highest resolution phone screen ever." |
| [03:55:04] | sphery: | might be, "The highest resolution phone screen, *yet*," but not "ever". |
| [03:55:04] | skd5aner: | s/ever/eva |
| [03:55:44] | sphery: | who was it that made a new display that could allow for cheap 300dpi tablet-sized screens... |
| [03:55:45] | skd5aner: | not sure how they compare to the qHD displays that are coming out in some of the android phones |
| [03:58:10] | wagnerrp: | iamlindoro: after the schema rework, will mythvideo content continue to only exist in Videos? |
| [03:58:21] | iamlindoro: | It makes me sad that people don't just ignore it, but literally take offense at the suggestion that they help out |
| [03:58:26] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp, Yes |
| [03:58:34] | iamlindoro: | At least, it should in my opinion |
| [03:58:50] | iamlindoro: | There's a divide in thinking on this point, of course |
| [03:58:59] | wagnerrp: | ok, just wondering |
| [03:59:11] | iamlindoro: | I personally feel that the graphical representation of archived video should be different than recordings |
| [03:59:24] | wagnerrp: | find_orphans skips a list of 'special' groups like those used for MythVideo |
| [03:59:34] | iamlindoro: | There are definitely those who advocate the "present it all together" approach, but that just sounds like a mess to me |
| [03:59:53] | wagnerrp: | and if mythvideo got dynamic groups, that would be difficult to manage |
| [03:59:54] | sphery: | I want separate views, but all accessed from the same location |
| [04:00:13] | sphery: | where you switch with a menu or navigation or whatever |
| [04:00:22] | wagnerrp: | i certainly agree that i dont want my recordings and videos mixed |
| [04:00:24] | sphery: | and the whole view changes aprpopriately |
| [04:00:36] | wagnerrp: | having them separate just seems cleaner from a collection management perspective |
| [04:00:41] | sphery: | yeah, mixed would be bad.... like completely unmanageable |
| [04:01:42] | sphery: | but having them all access from "Media"... (rather than Watch Recordings, Watch Videos, Watch Optical Discs, Play Music, ..., all in the main menus--and at various levels--is annoying) |
| [04:01:48] | sphery: | just makes it hard to move from one to the next |
| [04:01:57] | wagnerrp: | huh |
| [04:02:03] | sphery: | at least in my opionin |
| [04:02:20] | wagnerrp: | iamlindoro: you much up to date on the QUERY_SG_GETFILELIST command? |
| [04:02:38] | iamlindoro: | nope, didn't write it, never written any code that uses it |
| [04:03:02] | wagnerrp: | oh? i thought mythvideo used that for scanning |
| [04:03:05] | sphery: | what's the question? |
| [04:03:14] | iamlindoro: | it does, but I didn't write SG support for mythvideo |
| [04:03:21] | iamlindoro: | at least, not the video portion |
| [04:03:30] | iamlindoro: | I wrote the UI SG stuff |
| [04:03:32] | wagnerrp: | it seems to have a new fourth argument in the object response |
| [04:03:43] | wagnerrp: | it should be <type>::<name>::<size> |
| [04:03:50] | iamlindoro: | Fairly likely that's one of Captain_Murdoch's latest changes |
| [04:03:56] | wagnerrp: | but now its <type>::<name>::<size>::<name again> |
| [04:03:58] | sphery: | yeah, he changed it not long ago |
| [04:03:59] | iamlindoro: | For HTML setup |
| [04:04:21] | sphery: | https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/7255d463c |
| [04:04:34] | wagnerrp: | surely theres a more meaningful purpose to that fourth argument than just the name a second time |
| [04:04:48] | iamlindoro: | I'm sure there is |
| [04:04:59] | sphery: | - Add relative path as a 4th arg to the 'file' result from GetFileInfoList() |
| [04:05:04] | sphery: | perhaps? |
| [04:05:25] | iamlindoro: | yup |
| [04:05:49] | sphery: | no one going to say, "wow, you found that commit fast!" |
| [04:06:19] | sphery: | (it's one of my saved/marked messages because it affects some changes I have in the works) |
| [04:07:23] | iamlindoro: | Well now the mystery is gone |
| [04:08:19] | wagnerrp: | might have been good for that one to get a proto bump |
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| [04:08:45] | sphery: | yeah, makes sense |
| [04:10:40] | wagnerrp: | for that matter, when did we got filesize added to that query |
| [04:10:47] | wagnerrp: | i dont seem to have that documented on the wiki either |
| [04:12:15] | wagnerrp: | fancy, github doesnt follow movies |
| [04:12:16] | wagnerrp: | moves |
| [04:16:38] | wagnerrp: | perhaps i just screwed up the documentation |
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| [04:32:08] | wagnerrp: | whats this 'theatrical' developer blowout in the linux kernel? |
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| [04:37:07] | sphery: | ? |
| [04:38:11] | wagnerrp: | some comment from jay ashworth in the 'mythtv sucks im leaving' thread |
| [04:42:49] | sphery: | hmmm... no idea what that was |
| [04:52:49] | wagnerrp: | i wonder how many people will be taken aback by the fact that the code base is well over 1MLOC |
| [05:00:59] | wagnerrp: | also, seems i wrote find_orphans to be host ignorant |
| [05:01:10] | wagnerrp: | it doesnt care where the file is, so long as it finds it somewhere |
| [05:01:59] | wagnerrp: | the downside is that it has no offline host detection |
| [05:02:11] | wagnerrp: | if you have an offline host, it will mark all that content as orphaned |
| [05:02:17] | wagnerrp: | and offer to delete it |
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| [05:08:32] | Beirdo: | heh, except I don't think Jay's leaving per se. |
| [05:08:44] | wagnerrp: | no, Jay isnt |
| [05:08:50] | wagnerrp: | the guy who started the thread is |
| [05:09:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, another whiny MCE user-to-be |
| [05:09:11] | wagnerrp: | Jay just mentioned some issue that happened in the linux kernel earlier this year |
| [05:09:16] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [05:09:27] | wagnerrp: | but i never heard of such a thing |
| [05:09:30] | Beirdo: | yeah, not sure what he was alluding to either |
| [05:09:39] | wagnerrp: | unless maybe he was talking about ffmpeg |
| [05:10:00] | Beirdo: | maybe that's it and he got confused |
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| [05:39:00] | Novae: | Hi guys, what's the support like in FreeBSD and does anyone have a list of supported cards? I've found a few references to some old analog cards being supported but more interested in DVB-T |
| [05:39:17] | wagnerrp: | you can use the HDHomeRun |
| [05:39:58] | wagnerrp: | driver support sucks, but it works fine besides that |
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| [05:53:50] | Novae: | I hadn't thought of that, that might be the way to go as i've been unable to find a PCIe tuner that's supported in FreeBSD, let alone freebsd + myth |
| [05:54:18] | wagnerrp: | mythtv will support any tuner card exposed using the linux DVB API |
| [05:54:24] | wagnerrp: | but then linux != freebsd |
| [05:54:45] | wagnerrp: | and freebsd really doesnt have its own capture api to use as a replacement |
| [05:55:01] | Novae: | yeah. and ultimatly that's the biggest issue as currently freebsd doesn't have a good V4L type library afaik |
| [05:55:19] | wagnerrp: | there is some project (webcamd) that can supposedly use any linux USB capture driver |
| [05:55:24] | wagnerrp: | but i have no idea how that works |
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| [05:56:07] | Novae: | I'm also not sure if they're compatible with myth under fbsd... |
| [05:57:00] | wagnerrp: | http://www.freebsdnews.net/2010/04/29/dvb-s-l . . . 0-23-webcamd |
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| [06:02:08] | lapion: | hello |
| [06:03:17] | lapion: | I run my frontend as a different user then my backend I wouldn't think that should be a problem. |
| [06:03:30] | wagnerrp: | it shouldnt be, no |
| [06:03:52] | lapion: | however it does seem like it is the problem... |
| [06:04:21] | wagnerrp: | and the symptoms of the problem? |
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| [06:12:33] | lapion: | hmm nvm symptoms just changed.. |
| [06:13:22] | lapion: | the v4l cards stream records just fine, it's only during live playback that the problem appears.. |
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| [06:14:46] | lapion: | wagnerrp, whenever I watch a livestream of the analog card I get crashes with jumpfile errors |
| [06:15:10] | wagnerrp: | could you pastebin the actual errors? |
| [06:15:20] | lapion: | well not crashes but black screens |
| [06:15:35] | lapion: | I will have to wait for it to finish recording. |
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| [06:24:28] | lapion: | hmm the analog card records just fine, however live playback is broken... |
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| [06:38:19] | Beirdo: | OK, think I found my db logging shutdown fix |
| [06:38:56] | Beirdo: | now gotta checkin part of it, and see if the other part is necessary or not |
| [06:39:01] | lapion: | wagnerrp, what pastebin to use ? |
| [06:39:14] | Beirdo: | I'd like to change as little of the db handling code as possible |
| [06:39:33] | Beirdo: | lapion: pastebin.com or pastebin.ca, or whatever :) |
| [06:40:32] | lapion: | to paste images.. |
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| [06:43:41] | Beirdo: | dunno for that. |
| [06:45:33] | Shiggs|MB: | ...didn't someone say that there's a 0.25 with a web setup? |
| [06:46:18] | Beirdo: | no. there's a 0.25pre, with web setup being worked on |
| [06:46:30] | Shiggs|MB: | ahhh ok |
| [06:47:41] | lapion: | http://imagebin.org/155568 |
| [06:48:06] | lapion: | a nice pastebin for image ( with other words: an imagebin ;-) |
| [06:50:03] | Beirdo: | of course... for my test run, I did a commflag of a 1h show at 1080i H.264 |
| [06:50:09] | Beirdo: | stupid. |
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| [06:51:21] | lapion: | wagnerrp, here is a screenshot.. http://imagebin.org/155568 |
| [06:51:41] | lapion: | oops you meant the logging errors probably |
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| [07:00:13] | lapion: | Error opening jump program file: http://pastebin.com/0m5nybpK |
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| [07:08:14] | tgm4883: | sphery, seem to be getting good responses on the patch in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mythtv/+bug/717717 |
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| [09:43:53] | gandalfcome: | I have MythTV 0.24 using mythbuntu 11.04. I also use the MCE remote, whenever I press down it jumps 2 instead of one. is that a known error? |
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| [11:34:40] | NickHu: | Hey all |
| [11:34:47] | NickHu: | Regarding skipping commercials in the UK |
| [11:35:01] | NickHu: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Silence-detect.sh << Do I disable it in mythfrontend and run that script side-along? |
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| [12:17:40] | d0x: | Hi experts. I need a video capture card to make some snaptshots of my hdmi signal |
| [12:17:54] | d0x: | does anyone know a good card that support linux? |
| [12:18:55] | d0x: | smth. like http://www.blackmagic-design.com/products/intensity/models/ this intensiy pro |
| [12:19:45] | d0x: | They say "linux support" but i read on a ubuntu forum that there is no v4l driver |
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| [12:25:46] | rileyp: | sony playtv works great with dvbt |
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| [13:22:37] | sphery: | tgm4883: Excellent... Thanks for the link, and the PPA, and getting some users to test.. I'll see about pushing that patch soon. |
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| [14:27:17] | wagnerrp: | d0x: there are no HDMI capture cards supported by mythtv at this time |
| [14:27:44] | wagnerrp: | and for what its worth, any commercial video sources you may want to capture (cable box, bluray player) will be encrypted with HDCP |
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| [16:40:50] | sphery: | heh, 12 hours is "plenty" of listings data |
| [16:40:53] | sphery: | yeah, for a VCR |
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| [16:54:54] | wagnerrp: | sphery: well i was halfway through typing up a response, but ive got to go and cant complete it |
| [16:55:09] | wagnerrp: | if you want to explain to him why several days/weeks of data is needed for conflict resolution |
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| [17:00:16] | sphery: | heh, I figure it's not worth the effort. I'll just be accused of being a Schedules Direct pusher and ignoring reality. |
| [17:00:24] | sphery: | besides, he's already made up his mind. |
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| [17:48:03] | Josh``: | Having an issue with the OSD on the blue-abstract theme. On liveTV and recordings playback, the OSD text is fine, however, on videos playback the text size is HUGE. I've attempted to update from 0.23 to 0.24 to fix this, as well as installing the latest theme tarball from mythtv wiki, with no success.. Where would I go to fix this? |
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| [17:50:11] | sphery: | Josh``: what "text"? the regular OSD text showing things like title and description? not caption text, right? |
| [17:50:42] | sphery: | I'm also guessing these videos have tiny resolutions, right? |
| [17:51:31] | Josh``: | sphery: my videos are 720 or 1080, and when I mention text, I'm referring to the popup menu as well as progress bar, etc. |
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| [17:52:20] | Josh``: | sphery: just a second, I'll post a pic |
| [17:52:22] | sphery: | not sure what would cause it, then... other than, perhaps, an OSD theme problem. Make sure you're running the newest blue-abstract (get it from the theme downloader) |
| [17:53:21] | Josh``: | sphery: having an issue with that, too. theme fails to download with no log entry. Is there a specific backend log level I need to use? |
| [17:53:43] | Beirdo: | ooooh, nice sunny day. |
| [17:53:46] | sphery: | not sure |
| [17:53:57] | Beirdo: | must go outside. |
| [17:53:58] | Josh``: | sphery: and I'm sure its a problem with the theme, as when I switch themes the text size problem goes awayy |
| [17:54:05] | sphery: | Beirdo: yeah, and I need to get outside and start doing mulch/landscaping work |
| [17:55:18] | Beirdo: | bah, manual labor |
| [17:55:20] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [18:00:55] | Josh``: | sphery: Progress bar: – http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s310/fuxxociety/SAM_0224.jpg |
| [18:01:10] | Josh``: | sphery: Menu – http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s310/fuxxociety/SAM_0223.jpg |
| [18:01:53] | Josh``: | sphery: let me get the theme downloader working and I'll post back with results |
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| [18:04:54] | analogue_: | anyone know how to run a userjob on demand? |
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| [18:14:59] | Powderking: | Hi all! I already posted my problem to the mythtv-users mailing list http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/481281. I can't make mysql db accessible from my lan. I changed bind-address, restarted mysqld, created the mythconverg db and changed the permissions as described here: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythTV-HOWTO#Modif . . . iple_systems But I can't connect to the db from my lan :-( |
| [18:15:00] | Powderking: | Can you help me with that please? |
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| [18:16:41] | analogue_: | powderking: sudo sockstat -l | grep mysql |
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| [18:19:20] | Josh``: | Can I change the loglevel for mythbackend without actually killing the process? |
| [18:19:28] | Powderking: | analogue: http://pastebin.com/jKS3djHi |
| [18:19:40] | analogue_: | josh: mythbackend --help |
| [18:21:18] | Josh``: | analogue_: thanks |
| [18:22:10] | analogue_: | powerking: now it is listening on the external interface (192.168.1.6:3306) but not the internal interface (127.0.0.1) which may be causing your problems. |
| [18:23:01] | analogue_: | powderking: you want that line to read like: *:3306 which means it is listening on all interfaces (internal/external/whatever) |
| [18:23:35] | analogue_: | powderking: the way to do that is to specigy 0.0.0.0 as the binding interface |
| [18:24:01] | analogue_: | josh: np |
| [18:24:02] | Powderking: | analogue_: Thx, will give it a try... |
| [18:24:20] | analogue_: | yeah..should be in your mysql.conf or some such |
| [18:25:14] | Josh``: | sphery: apparently there have been two minor version bumps since blue-abstract was posted to the themes wiki :) Installing the latest version fixed the problem. |
| [18:31:10] | Powderking: | I changed it here: /etc/mysql/my.cnf and restarted mysql. But unfortunately I still can't login nor restore my db: http://pastebin.com/nwZni9C5 |
| [18:35:13] | analogue_: | oops |
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| [18:37:01] | analogue_: | powderking: ok..looks like you're talking to your db ok now, you just can't login |
| [18:39:08] | analogue_: | permissions are always a pita |
| [18:39:43] | Powderking: | Ahh, do I have to add my user (hoferr) to the mythtv group and vice versa? |
| [18:39:55] | Powderking: | Or maybe to the mysql group? |
| [18:39:55] | analogue_: | at this point, i install phpmyadmin, login as root, and then open up the permissions for the mythtv user |
| [18:40:23] | Powderking: | Ok, just a moment... |
| [18:41:33] | analogue_: | mysql is finicky about the hostname used when logging in (localhost, htpc, 127.0.0.1, 192.168.1.x, etc) so the permissions for mythtv need to be 'mythtv'@'%' ( % == wildcard) |
| [18:42:04] | analogue_: | i think i have a writeup on how to do it...let me see |
| [18:43:22] | analogue_: | nah..different writeup for a different problem |
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| [18:44:37] | Powderking: | Maybe it helps, if I just set the permission in mysql to 'mythtv'@'%' and not 'mythtv'@'192.168.1.%' as I did? |
| [18:45:01] | analogue_: | yeah..thats better |
| [18:45:58] | wagnerrp: | analogue_: you have defined the user job? you have set the user job as allowed to run on your backend? |
| [18:47:26] | Powderking: | What I think is strange is when I do "grant all on mythconverg.* to mythtv@"%" identified by "mythtv";" in mysql I get "Query OK, 0 rows affected (0.00 sec)". Doesn't it mean that nothing happened? |
| [18:48:52] | analogue_: | wagnerrp: yes, the user job is sitting in the db with the requisite permissions and all. i just want to run it on-demand instead of being triggered automatically according to the recording schedule |
| [18:49:09] | wagnerrp: | if the job is defined, with an executable and name |
| [18:49:16] | Powderking: | Still "$ mysql -u root -p -h 192.168.1.6" --> "ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'192.168.1.6' (using password: YES)" and the restore script returns the same. |
| [18:49:31] | wagnerrp: | it should be available to run either through mythweb, or through the on screen menus in the 'watch recordings' screen, or during recording playback |
| [18:49:44] | wagnerrp: | see the 'job options' section at the bottom of the on screen menu |
| [18:50:23] | analogue_: | powderking: try using the mythtv user and credentials |
| [18:51:19] | analogue_: | wagnerrp: what i want is to be able to do it programatically. something like step1) create record in job queue table step2) poke mythtv somehow so that it knows about the new job |
| [18:52:11] | wagnerrp: | there are methods in the python bindings for generating new jobs |
| [18:52:25] | wagnerrp: | i dont know if the similar methods in mythweb are actually in mythweb, or in the php bindings |
| [18:52:37] | wagnerrp: | in any case, there is nothing to 'poke' in mythtv |
| [18:52:40] | analogue_: | wagnerrp: is that sufficient? just create the new job and thats it? |
| [18:52:54] | analogue_: | wagnerrp: cool. will give that a try |
| [18:53:00] | Powderking: | analogue_: Doesn't work http://pastebin.com/66ayEQfA |
| [18:53:06] | wagnerrp: | the jobqueue runs completely independently on each mythbackend or mythjobqueue |
| [18:53:32] | wagnerrp: | it runs once a minute, picks up any job its authorized to run, and then loops |
| [18:53:52] | analogue_: | wagnerrp: ah..ok. so its polling continuously. that explains it |
| [18:53:54] | wagnerrp: | there is no coordination between independent jobqueues |
| [18:53:57] | wagnerrp: | there is nothing to trigger |
| [18:54:03] | wagnerrp: | you just shove it in the database and wait |
| [18:54:11] | analogue_: | waganerp: tnx1 |
| [18:54:26] | wagnerrp: | now if i have my way, that will get 'fixed' |
| [18:55:10] | analogue_: | wagnerrp: i'm guessing you mean adding support for jobs to the protocol and not mucking w/ the db |
| [18:55:12] | wagnerrp: | im currently in the process or rewriting the jobqueue, largely from scratch |
| [18:55:25] | wagnerrp: | there will be no manual access to the database |
| [18:55:31] | wagnerrp: | new jobs will be queued over myth protocol |
| [18:55:43] | wagnerrp: | and the jobqueues will operate threadless |
| [18:55:55] | wagnerrp: | instead waiting for a job scheduler running on the master backend to tell them what to do |
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| [18:57:45] | analogue_: | powderking: its hard to say whats wrong. thats why i use phpmyadmin. it gives you a very simple way to manage permissions and also you're less likely to shoot yourself in the foot by manually executing sql commands |
| [18:58:12] | analogue_: | wagnerrp: looking forward to it :) |
| [18:59:38] | analogue_: | powderking: also, i'm assuming you bounced mysql after the permission changes |
| [19:00:55] | Powderking: | I'm currently installing phpmyadmin. I chose apache and now it asks me to configure the db with dbconfig-common. I suppose I want that? What do you mean with bounced? |
| [19:01:17] | analogue_: | bounced= sudo service mysql restart |
| [19:01:52] | analogue_: | using the defaults with apache2 should be fine |
| [19:02:38] | Powderking: | Ah, no. I only restarted after changing the configuration file. So I need to restart mysql after changing the db permission as well? Will do that... |
| [19:03:36] | analogue_: | well, i can't be sure, but lets assume worst case scenario. doesn't hurt to do a restart so your 100% confident your changes have been taken into account |
| [19:04:49] | ** analogue_ wonders about the thousands of wasted man hours because mysql insists on defaults to only listen on localhost ** | |
| [19:06:37] | Powderking: | I installed phpmyadmin. How can I use it? |
| [19:07:03] | analogue_: | should be available at http:/localhost/phpmyadmin |
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| [19:08:56] | Powderking: | I can log in and see the mythconverg db. Can you advise me what to check? |
| [19:10:08] | analogue_: | go to the Privileges tab |
| [19:10:26] | Powderking: | Yes. |
| [19:10:42] | analogue_: | mythtv % database-specific ALL PRIVILEGES No |
| [19:10:43] | analogue_: | mythtv localhost database-specific ALL PRIVILEGES No |
| [19:10:59] | analogue_: | thats what my two rows for mythtv user look like |
| [19:11:36] | Powderking: | I have 4 mythtv rows |
| [19:11:39] | Powderking: | mythtv % Yes USAGE No |
| [19:11:46] | Powderking: | mythtv 192.168.1.% Yes USAGE No |
| [19:11:51] | Powderking: | mythtv 192.168.1.6 Yes USAGE No |
| [19:11:56] | Powderking: | mythtv localhost Yes ALL PRIVILEGES Yes |
| [19:12:06] | analogue_: | looks like overkill |
| [19:12:21] | Powderking: | I'll delete the two in the middle and change the other two? |
| [19:12:28] | analogue_: | sounds like a plan |
| [19:13:27] | Powderking: | Hmm, yes :-) But how can I delete them. I'm only able to check them but where's the delete button? |
| [19:14:02] | analogue_: | action column |
| [19:16:59] | Powderking: | This brings me to a big screen with Global privileges, Database-specific privileges, Change password, Change Login Information / Copy User, Create a new user with the same privileges and ... |
| [19:17:11] | Powderking: | But nothing to only delete |
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| [19:18:24] | Powderking: | Oh yes, I got it. Deleted succesfully :-) |
| [19:19:34] | analogue_: | yeah..its a little tricky. you have to click on the 'home' icon, then 'privileges' tab |
| [19:20:09] | Powderking: | Yes, now I only have |
| [19:20:10] | sphery: | Powderking: mythtv MySQL user must have ALL--USAGE isn't enough |
| [19:20:10] | Powderking: | mythtv % Yes USAGE No |
| [19:20:19] | Powderking: | mythtv localhost Yes ALL PRIVILEGES Yes |
| [19:20:26] | Powderking: | mythtv % Yes USAGE No |
| [19:20:33] | Josh``: | Weird. The theme downloader works on my bedroom pc, but does not work on my livingroom pc |
| [19:20:51] | analogue_: | mythtv % Yes USAGE No mythtv localhost Yes USAGE No |
| [19:21:17] | sphery: | Powderking: http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-6.html#modify_perm_mysql and not that some distros have broken mysql auth and you have to do an explicit SET PASSWORD after grants |
| [19:21:27] | sphery: | er, note that some... |
| [19:23:54] | Powderking: | Ok, so I have to set the privileges for the two mythtv users to all? How? And after modifying access I have to set the password again for the mythtv user? |
| [19:24:30] | Powderking: | Ah, think I got it |
| [19:24:37] | Powderking: | mythtv % Yes ALL PRIVILEGES Yes |
| [19:24:43] | Powderking: | mythtv localhost Yes ALL PRIVILEGES Yes |
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| [19:29:34] | Powderking: | YESSS, it successfully restored my DB :-D |
| [19:29:42] | Powderking: | Thanks alot!!! |
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| [19:30:51] | analogue_: | powderking: you're welcome :) |
| [19:31:36] | Powderking: | Wow, this kept me from preparing for my exams for two days now ;-) |
| [19:32:01] | Powderking: | Now I think I don't have any other excuse LOL |
| [19:32:07] | analogue_: | haha! |
| [19:34:33] | analogue_: | you might want to reply to your own post on the mailing list with the solution so others might benefit :) |
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| [19:40:48] | Powderking: | Yes, I will. So the main problem was that I had wrong connection and privilege permissions. Is that correct? |
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| [19:43:27] | analogue_: | powderking: i would sum it up by saying you had conflicting/extraneous permissions which you were able to straighten out with phpmyadmin |
| [19:44:21] | analogue_: | plus that binding address thing too |
| [19:45:08] | Powderking: | Ah yes, I will post both on the mailing list... |
| [19:45:39] | Powderking: | Thank you so much again :-D This was really driving me crazy! |
| [19:46:20] | ** analogue_ <start class star trek theme> is installed mythtv frontend on a mac for the first time..cool ** | |
| [19:46:29] | analogue_: | class==classic |
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| [19:53:18] | sid3windr: | to boldly go where no mac has gone before? |
| [19:54:21] | analogue_: | yup! |
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