| Monday, March 28th, 2011, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:13] | Izarie: | OK, I get it... |
| [00:00:30] | Izarie: | so, there was a /var/lib/mythtv folder for the mythtv user |
| [00:01:08] | Izarie: | I copied my conf file .mythtv folder here and changed the owner to mythtv and now the daemon works |
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| [00:05:17] | Teligard: | So, how long does it generally take for a mythexport to complete? |
| [00:05:30] | Teligard: | Mines been running for 1+ hours |
| [00:05:36] | Izarie: | ?? |
| [00:05:41] | Izarie: | what is that ? |
| [00:05:46] | wagnerrp: | mythexport is a transcoding tool |
| [00:05:50] | iamlindoro: | A program not supplied by us |
| [00:05:56] | wagnerrp: | specifically intended for export to ipods and the like |
| [00:06:01] | Izarie: | k |
| [00:06:06] | wagnerrp: | as with any transcoding tool, its going to take a long time to run |
| [00:06:14] | Teligard: | It allows for export of video for mobile devices, or so it appears |
| [00:06:16] | wagnerrp: | 1+ hrs is not surprising by any measure |
| [00:06:23] | Teligard: | even with no content? |
| [00:06:35] | wagnerrp: | how can it be doing something if there is no content |
| [00:06:47] | wagnerrp: | what does it have to complete if there are no recordings to work on? |
| [00:07:00] | Teligard: | Good question |
| [00:07:33] | Teligard: | I haven't mounted any of my shares yet or anything |
| [00:09:52] | wagnerrp: | well as mentioned, that is a mythbuntu application, you would have to see #ubuntu-mythtv for assistance |
| [00:10:11] | bance: | you have to try jamu |
| [00:10:20] | wagnerrp: | for what purpose? |
| [00:10:32] | bance: | blinhg |
| [00:10:34] | wagnerrp: | jamu and mythexport are for completely different uses |
| [00:11:35] | bance: | yes but you have to admit jamu makes myth look nice |
| [00:12:07] | wagnerrp: | the theme makes mythtv look nice, jamu just provides the images |
| [00:12:21] | wagnerrp: | and at least for mythvideo, the images are provided just fine by the internal code |
| [00:12:33] | bance: | very nice they are too ! |
| [00:14:05] | bance: | mythvideo is not really what myth i sa bout thoughis it? |
| [00:14:25] | bance: | spaced! |
| [00:14:38] | wagnerrp: | for mythvideo, jamu does not really provide any significant advantage |
| [00:14:53] | wagnerrp: | you get the 'maintenance', which will occasionally rescan the entries for additional metadata |
| [00:14:59] | wagnerrp: | but honestly, it doesnt update that often |
| [00:15:17] | wagnerrp: | the other thing jamu does is provide artwork for recordings |
| [00:15:27] | wagnerrp: | something not really yet implemented in mythtv |
| [00:15:34] | wagnerrp: | hopefully, that stuff will make it in for 0.25 |
| [00:16:28] | bance: | brill myth just keeps getting better and better |
| [00:21:35] | bance: | something slightly O/T for a noob, how do mailing lists work? I registered at mythtv-users but don't know how to reply to threads..... |
| [00:22:02] | wagnerrp: | you hit 'reply', type up a message, and send |
| [00:22:34] | wagnerrp: | your reply goes to the list server |
| [00:22:45] | wagnerrp: | the list server forwards it on to all subscribed users |
| [00:22:49] | bance: | I somehow knew it was that simple.... |
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| [00:22:59] | bance: | thanks |
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| [00:29:16] | bance: | good night all |
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| [00:39:53] | Teligard: | has anyone seen any docs on how to get the MS Media Center Remote to change channels (how to set up lirc for it)? |
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| [00:51:33] | puff: | So, this hauppage HD-PVR... |
| [00:53:24] | puff: | I haven't found anywhere that states this explicitly, but I'm guessing what it does is essentially capture from the component video at very high resolution. |
| [00:53:47] | puff: | Capture and encode to digital format. |
| [00:54:55] | [R]: | yes |
| [00:54:59] | puff: | Cool... |
| [00:55:19] | wagnerrp: | well 'very high' is debatable |
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| [00:58:26] | puff: | wagnerrp: High enough to record and play back 1080? |
| [00:58:58] | wagnerrp: | record, yes... it does not have video outputs for playback |
| [00:59:15] | [R]: | and it only supports up to 1080i |
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| [01:15:30] | csnook: | Any idea why 1080 ATSC videos are slow and ridiculously low-pitched on 0.24, while 720 is fine? |
| [01:15:48] | csnook: | (Fedora 14, rpmfusion packages) |
| [01:16:27] | wagnerrp: | sounds like wrong deinterlace filter |
| [01:16:39] | wagnerrp: | youre using a 2x on a system incapable of handling it |
| [01:17:43] | csnook: | when I transcode down to MPEG 4 at 1 GB/hour, it does the same thing |
| [01:18:05] | csnook: | live TV audio skips at 1080 |
| [01:18:13] | csnook: | recordings don't |
| [01:18:37] | csnook: | actually, recordings skip too, now that I think about it |
| [01:18:43] | csnook: | until I transcode down |
| [01:19:01] | csnook: | then they stop skipping, but I'm watching in slow-mo and listening in super-slow-mo |
| [01:19:13] | csnook: | Hauppauge 1250, if that matters |
| [01:19:39] | csnook: | so, um, what's a 2x? |
| [01:22:39] | csnook: | also, is this a playback problem, or a recording/transcoding problem? |
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| [01:35:00] | csnook: | I don't even know of anything that'll play these modified .nuv files, and I don't have the hardware acceleration to play the original .mpg |
| [01:35:34] | wagnerrp: | youre transcoding 1080i to 1GB/hr? |
| [01:36:00] | csnook: | yes |
| [01:36:04] | csnook: | roughly |
| [01:36:18] | wagnerrp: | thats ridiculously low |
| [01:36:20] | csnook: | I'm using the default for MPEG 4 but disabling scaling |
| [01:36:30] | csnook: | I know, all I did was disable scaling |
| [01:36:47] | csnook: | was hoping I had the CPU to handle at least that |
| [01:37:17] | csnook: | since I have plenty of CPU for broadcast-quality 720p |
| [01:37:34] | csnook: | I'm thinking the CPU isn't the problem |
| [01:37:56] | wagnerrp: | i mean 1080i60 h264 should be 2–3GB/hr, and the mpeg4 that mythtranscode outputs should be another 50% on top of that |
| [01:38:17] | csnook: | I was getting 7 GB/hour from broadcast |
| [01:38:39] | csnook: | 3 GB/hour at 720 |
| [01:39:00] | wagnerrp: | h264 is only designed to encode at twice the efficiency of mpeg2 |
| [01:39:10] | csnook: | I know |
| [01:39:18] | wagnerrp: | and mpeg4 was never intended as a replacement, it really cannot handle hd content well |
| [01:39:30] | csnook: | my point is, something is fucked up with 1080i and I don't think the CPU is the problem |
| [01:39:31] | wagnerrp: | note, you are not using h264, as mythtranscode is not capable of h264 |
| [01:39:36] | wagnerrp: | you are using mpeg4asp |
| [01:40:01] | wagnerrp: | and please watch the language in this channel |
| [01:40:10] | csnook: | well, the CPU is the problem with live TV, but I've given up on live TV, as I can just watch that on the TV itself |
| [01:40:11] | csnook: | sorry |
| [01:40:26] | wagnerrp: | what CPU? |
| [01:41:15] | csnook: | 2.66 GHz C2Q |
| [01:41:29] | wagnerrp: | then you should not be having any troubles with any content in mythtv |
| [01:41:34] | csnook: | same behavior whether the background is idle or not |
| [01:41:44] | csnook: | well, I have no hardware acceleration |
| [01:41:52] | wagnerrp: | what graphics card? |
| [01:42:02] | csnook: | Intel X4500HD |
| [01:42:10] | csnook: | but I don't have a VAAPI-enabled build |
| [01:42:16] | wagnerrp: | mythtv is not VAAPI enabled |
| [01:42:23] | wagnerrp: | use the Slim playback profile |
| [01:42:24] | csnook: | .25 devel builds are |
| [01:42:39] | csnook: | but I was hoping to avoid dependency hell |
| [01:42:53] | wagnerrp: | no, there are no VAAPI-enabled mythtv builds |
| [01:43:41] | wagnerrp: | there are VAAPI patches on trunk |
| [01:43:50] | wagnerrp: | but those havent been touched for about half a year |
| [01:43:57] | iamlindoro: | ones which haven't been updated in ages |
| [01:44:11] | csnook: | slim profile makes no difference |
| [01:44:18] | wagnerrp: | and at the last time they were touched, they were deemed insufficiently reliable on intel drivers available at the time to be worth committing |
| [01:45:17] | sphery: | heh, on the mythweb page when trying to create a rule for Breaking In: "Possible conflicts: Criminal Minds: Conflicted" |
| [01:45:44] | sphery: | (Conflicted is the episode title) |
| [01:45:47] | csnook: | well then, all the more reason to avoid devel builds |
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| [01:55:37] | ripperda: | hello, I recently updated my mythbuntu setup to mythtv .24. I configured audio and it worked fine until last night. Playing ps3 through the same receiver works fine. I'm having trouble getting mythtv to play audio and was hoping someone could assist me in reviewing my mythtv audio setup |
| [01:56:43] | [R]: | if it was workikng fine... what did you change |
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| [01:57:51] | ripperda: | that's what I'm confused about. I can't find it in my logs now, but I think I may have had an unrelated kernel oops, which a reboot should have resolved. however, before I saw that, I tweaked my audio settings |
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| [01:58:10] | [R]: | well untweak it |
| [01:58:16] | ripperda: | so I'm not sure if my current problems are due to something outside of mythtv or my changes to my mythtv settings |
| [01:58:35] | ripperda: | I don't recall what my previous settings were, which was why I was hoping someone could review |
| [01:59:01] | ripperda: | I guess I should try using an audio program (like mpg123 or aplay) outside of mythtv to verify audio is working independently of mythtv |
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| [02:16:11] | wagnerrp: | wtf... |
| [02:16:24] | wagnerrp: | chevy has updated onstar to allow access to.... facebook |
| [02:17:16] | [R]: | haha |
| [02:17:22] | [R]: | so you can post your crash to your wall |
| [02:18:01] | ripperda: | ha, well, apparently I had the settings right and the receiver audio had been turned way down.. silly me, I feel stupid. ah well, at least the problem's solved now. thanks! |
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| [02:29:11] | mycosys: | daft question – copy and paste between text boxes in setup in 0.24, does it work? want to move my old default player to alternate and set default to internal |
| [02:30:47] | mycosys: | oh, other daft question – is there any way to scale the theme font in 0.24 – seems to have disappeared |
| [02:31:22] | Izarie: | thanks everybody |
| [02:31:27] | Izarie: | It works |
| [02:31:34] | Izarie: | Tiem to go to bed !!! |
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| [02:32:51] | GWG: | I still can't figure out if I have my surround sound set up correctly. |
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| [02:58:11] | Teligard: | hello again |
| [02:58:57] | Teligard: | any ideas why I wouldn't be able to mount a network share in mythbuntu? Here's the entry that is failing in my fstab: |
| [02:59:42] | Teligard: | ' //mybook2/Public/XBMC_layout /mnt/mediaserver1 cifs rw,user=relder,credentials=/etc/samba/.credentials,uid=1000,iocharset=utf8,file_ mode=0777,dir_mode=0777 0 0 |
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| [03:04:53] | wagnerrp: | are you supposed to define both a user= and credentials= ? |
| [03:05:56] | Teligard: | When I dont I get: |
| [03:05:57] | Teligard: | [17182.484264] CIFS VFS: No username specified |
| [03:05:57] | Teligard: | [17182.484275] CIFS VFS: cifs_mount failed w/return code = -22 |
| [03:06:20] | Teligard: | I'm also in #ubuntu asking... |
| [03:07:00] | Teligard: | It's really strange to me that I'm having this issue, as my other systems don't give me the error, but I do get a notification that the share can't be seen |
| [03:07:11] | Teligard: | So I'm doing something wrong, just don't know what |
| [03:07:22] | wagnerrp: | yes, #ubuntu or #samba is really where you should be asking this |
| [03:07:34] | wagnerrp: | ideally, we dont have to deal with network mounts |
| [03:07:43] | wagnerrp: | and when we do, NFS is much preferred over CIFS |
| [03:07:55] | Teligard: | I've never used NFS |
| [03:08:11] | Teligard: | IF you can provide words of wisdom, I'll take them |
| [03:08:36] | wagnerrp: | well '//mybook2' looks like an external drive with built in NAS |
| [03:08:46] | wagnerrp: | and if that NAS doesnt support NFS, not much you can do |
| [03:09:04] | wagnerrp: | other than move the drive internally, and use your backend as the file server |
| [03:09:41] | Teligard: | It supports it, I've just never used NFS |
| [03:10:04] | Teligard: | It's a WD MyBook World |
| [03:10:58] | Teligard: | I lucked out and was the benefactor of 2 1 TB NAS's, so thought I'd put them to good use :-) |
| [03:11:19] | Teligard: | or, should I say, beneficiary |
| [03:12:05] | wagnerrp: | better to just swipe the drives, and shove them im a computer |
| [03:13:43] | Teligard: | They aren't in a format I can dothat with. I tried it when I thought one was dying on me. |
| [03:13:50] | Teligard: | didn't work |
| [03:14:05] | wagnerrp: | how so? |
| [03:14:35] | wagnerrp: | theyre just a standard internal drive in a more advanced case |
| [03:16:56] | Teligard: | But the filesystem format is different |
| [03:17:16] | wagnerrp: | its likely ntfs |
| [03:17:27] | Teligard: | plus, I'd like to keep them in a NAS to make them more portable |
| [03:25:16] | mycosys: | did you think about bandwidth? |
| [03:25:35] | mycosys: | even gigabit ned has 1/3 the bandwidth of sata |
| [03:25:37] | mycosys: | *net |
| [03:26:20] | wagnerrp: | its not like mythtv even comes close to exceeding the capability of gigabit |
| [03:26:34] | [R]: | that's what she said |
| [03:26:38] | Teligard: | haha |
| [03:27:26] | Teligard: | ok, I have a majority of the nfs mount figured out; all except passing credentials |
| [03:27:41] | wagnerrp: | there are none to pass |
| [03:27:59] | mycosys: | you dont think it would load the network jus a touch if her were to do a commercial marking or transcode job? |
| [03:28:08] | mycosys: | *he |
| [03:28:32] | wagnerrp: | both would be CPU limited long before disk or network |
| [03:29:07] | mycosys: | on 100mbit too? |
| [03:29:23] | Teligard: | I'm running Gbit through the house |
| [03:29:25] | wagnerrp: | transcoding? definately |
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| [03:29:49] | wagnerrp: | commflagging, a fast processor might exceed the limited on mpeg2 content |
| [03:30:45] | mycosys: | curious teligard – what is going on the drives? |
| [03:31:06] | wagnerrp: | what else? porn! |
| [03:31:28] | Teligard: | ISO's, 720p video content (or better), music |
| [03:31:40] | Teligard: | TV show recordings and series |
| [03:32:10] | Teligard: | wagnerrp: if it was, I'd be shot by the others that live in the house |
| [03:32:36] | mycosys: | wagnerrp – would it get kinda funky using storage groups from a nas without mythbackend? |
| [03:32:41] | Teligard: | They don't have much of a sense of humor |
| [03:32:59] | wagnerrp: | you cannot use mythtv without a backend |
| [03:33:35] | Teligard: | mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting 192.168.1.197:/Public/XBMC_layout |
| [03:33:38] | mycosys: | as in – to share those without mounting cifs on ea frontend it would need to go thru the backend and then out to the network again? |
| [03:33:48] | Teligard: | That's what I get when I try to mount the network volume |
| [03:33:49] | qupada: | Afternoon all. I found myself in a fun situation this morning when my gentoo box has started the purging of HAL from all corners of the system. I've gone the quick and dirty route and purged the dependency from the ebuild after discovering the only place it's used is a last-resort DBUS call (after consolekit and others fail) in mythfrontend/exitprompt.cpp. I suspect I'm not going to hit any major issues because of this but if someone wants to tell me |
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| [03:34:37] | mycosys: | qupada – ur post was too long – cut off at tell me |
| [03:34:49] | qupada: | "someone wants to tell me I'm wrong please do" |
| [03:34:54] | qupada: | sorry about that |
| [03:35:18] | mycosys: | not worried :) jus thought ur entire message should get thru lol |
| [03:35:20] | wagnerrp: | mycosys: mythtv will first search local files to see if the content is available, and then fall back to streaming from the backend |
| [03:36:05] | wagnerrp: | but even if using the backend as a proxy, you would never come close to hitting gigabit limits |
| [03:36:17] | wagnerrp: | remember, gigabit is duplex |
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| [03:37:37] | Teligard: | I know that I'm able to stream 4 seperate simultateous videos to 4 seperate boxes from the NAS without a hiccup |
| [03:37:47] | Teligard: | When I can get the shares to work |
| [03:38:16] | Teligard: | My limitation is the video capabilities of the frontends |
| [03:38:42] | Teligard: | Which I'm working on getting around by on-the-fly re-encoding of the video stream |
| [03:38:47] | foxbuntu: | Teligard, what are the gpu chips? |
| [03:38:52] | Teligard: | on a mediadirector |
| [03:38:59] | Teligard: | You don't want to know |
| [03:39:16] | foxbuntu: | ? |
| [03:39:16] | wagnerrp: | mythtv does not support on-the-fly transcoding |
| [03:39:26] | Teligard: | They are integrated on GX270 dell's (p4 2.4) |
| [03:39:37] | foxbuntu: | Teligard, intel? |
| [03:39:53] | Teligard: | your right, that's why I'm looking into some options like vlc to generate a stream |
| [03:39:57] | Teligard: | yes |
| [03:40:03] | Teligard: | LOW end intel |
| [03:40:20] | wagnerrp: | mythtv cannot view streams from VLC |
| [03:40:28] | Teligard: | They can handle DVD fine, just no HD content |
| [03:40:46] | foxbuntu: | Teligard, yeah, thats been my experience |
| [03:41:22] | foxbuntu: | Teligard, if you look into any upgrades, get a cheapo nvidia that supports vdpau |
| [03:41:42] | foxbuntu: | can prob get something for ~$40 these days |
| [03:41:50] | Teligard: | I'm been looking that over |
| [03:41:50] | wagnerrp: | 25 |
| [03:42:02] | foxbuntu: | wagnerrp, alright... |
| [03:42:20] | Teligard: | The other issue is that it needs to be low profile, or a PCI |
| [03:42:25] | wagnerrp: | 'course that assumes his machines take PCIe |
| [03:42:31] | wagnerrp: | which they almost certainly do not |
| [03:42:37] | foxbuntu: | yea |
| [03:42:45] | Teligard: | low pro's are more expensive, and PCI is going by way of the dinosaurs |
| [03:43:14] | foxbuntu: | Teligard, depends, I have run into some low pros that are nearly the same cost |
| [03:46:55] | foxbuntu: | Technophil, I assume lowpro agp yes? |
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| [03:47:47] | Teligard: | yes |
| [03:53:15] | foxbuntu: | Teligard, http://www.kpsurplus.com/nvidia-quadro-p118-0 . . . i-58839.html |
| [03:53:50] | wagnerrp: | that looks like a GF6200 |
| [03:53:51] | foxbuntu: | Teligard, I havent checked vdpau on that however |
| [03:53:58] | wagnerrp: | meaning no VDPAU |
| [03:54:10] | wagnerrp: | and not even enough opengl performance to run the opengl video renderer |
| [03:54:39] | Teligard: | ouch |
| [03:57:17] | foxbuntu: | wagnerrp, you sure on that? from what I am reading its a newer chip than that |
| [03:57:23] | mycosys: | why was the 5200 so popular before vdpau? |
| [03:57:26] | mycosys: | for myth users |
| [03:57:31] | foxbuntu: | NVS280 is what I am seeing |
| [03:57:49] | wagnerrp: | mycosys: because it was a cheap card that worked |
| [03:58:04] | mycosys: | read something about harware overlaying? |
| [03:58:38] | wagnerrp: | it supports xv, as do all nvidia cards in the last decade |
| [03:59:07] | wagnerrp: | it supports xvmc, which you should only touch with a lit stick of dynamite |
| [03:59:37] | foxbuntu: | with the fuse nearly used up... |
| [04:00:39] | Teligard: | haha, now am I seeing a little displeasure in the xvmc support.... :-) |
| [04:00:56] | Teligard: | no animosity |
| [04:01:23] | wagnerrp: | no, its seething hatred |
| [04:01:29] | Teligard: | hahaha |
| [04:01:47] | Teligard: | couldn't tell ;) |
| [04:02:10] | mycosys: | did use it for a while on a 6200 – was glad to be rid of it |
| [04:02:45] | wagnerrp: | foxbuntu: older it seems, 5200-based quadro |
| [04:03:59] | mycosys: | was what it looked to me too wagnerrp, but wasnt sure |
| [04:04:20] | wagnerrp: | yeah, ive got a 6200 AGP card that it looks identical to |
| [04:04:26] | wagnerrp: | but thats not surprising |
| [04:04:38] | wagnerrp: | similarly low power output, so similarly small heatsink |
| [04:04:47] | mycosys: | looks near identical to the nvs100 i had lol |
| [04:05:35] | wagnerrp: | Teligard: anyway... xvmc would do offloading of the motion compensation calculations for mpeg2 decoding |
| [04:05:49] | wagnerrp: | which means it would offload about 40% of the task |
| [04:06:05] | wagnerrp: | rendering late model P3s barely capable of HD MPEG2 playback |
| [04:06:36] | Teligard: | So, I guess the P2 is out of the question? (hehe) |
| [04:06:41] | Teligard: | j/k |
| [04:06:43] | wagnerrp: | in exchange, it had a cludgy interface, and even cludgier overlay support |
| [04:07:00] | wagnerrp: | meaning your OSD was limited to very simple black and white images |
| [04:07:11] | Teligard: | Well, right now, I just need to be able to get to the media |
| [04:07:15] | Teligard: | 1 step at a time |
| [04:07:22] | wagnerrp: | now Xv is even worse, it effectively has no OSD support |
| [04:07:38] | wagnerrp: | but since youre sending raw video, instead of a compressed bitstream |
| [04:07:50] | wagnerrp: | you can cook whatever image into the video you want |
| [04:07:59] | wagnerrp: | of course since that is done prior to scaling |
| [04:08:20] | Teligard: | minimizes the teh decoding workload |
| [04:08:21] | wagnerrp: | you get issues like the OSD being rendered to the video at 480i, before being scaled up to 1080p, making it all nasty |
| [04:08:40] | wagnerrp: | or even worse, the OSD being rendered at 1080p, scaled down to 480i, and being completely unreadable |
| [04:08:56] | wagnerrp: | hence the opengl renderer |
| [04:09:17] | wagnerrp: | in which case the raw YUV video is fed in as one texture, the OSD elements as mulitple other textures |
| [04:09:24] | foxbuntu: | wagnerrp, where are you seeing that, everything I am finding is that is a NVS 280 chip |
| [04:09:45] | foxbuntu: | wagnerrp, not that it really matters, but its really my own curiosity at this point |
| [04:09:46] | wagnerrp: | and the shader code doing all necessary transforms and compositing at proper resolution |
| [04:10:07] | wagnerrp: | foxbuntu: i honestly cant figure out anything about the 'p118' |
| [04:10:18] | wagnerrp: | however the NVS280 ran off an NV34 core |
| [04:10:24] | wagnerrp: | the same one used in the low end 5-series |
| [04:10:52] | foxbuntu: | wagnerrp, hmm...alright |
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| [04:17:07] | wagnerrp: | Teligard: my suggestion? just scrap the old systems |
| [04:17:18] | wagnerrp: | if you want, keep the cases and PSUs |
| [04:17:27] | wagnerrp: | replace the mobo/proc/memory |
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| [04:17:49] | mycosys: | athlon 2 2xx is so cheap i have to agree |
| [04:17:51] | clever: | wagnerrp: the only real solution to 480i OSD, is to turn OSD alpha off |
| [04:18:13] | wagnerrp: | clever: no, the only real solution to OSD is to use opengl |
| [04:18:17] | Teligard: | Right now I'm working on a budge of 0.00 |
| [04:18:22] | Teligard: | budget |
| [04:18:23] | clever: | gl would fix it without loosing alpha |
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| [04:18:28] | mycosys: | $150 will get a very usable mobo/ram/cpu combo, if you hunt around with even vdpau |
| [04:18:32] | wagnerrp: | Xv can never render a nice OSD |
| [04:18:48] | Teligard: | but, when that changes, I will be changing everything out |
| [04:18:58] | wagnerrp: | nvidia is getting out of the onboard video market, so prices are going up |
| [04:19:21] | mycosys: | yeah – but if you can find an ol 8300 chipset (if ur lucky) ur set |
| [04:19:23] | wagnerrp: | but two years ago, i picked up a 2.6GHz dual core AMD, onboard 8200, and 2GB of memory for $160 |
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| [04:19:33] | wagnerrp: | thats still plenty for all of mythtv's needs |
| [04:19:51] | wagnerrp: | enough CPU for just about everything, VDPAU for anything beyond that |
| [04:20:08] | Teligard: | good buy |
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| [04:20:31] | wagnerrp: | it wasnt a particularly good buy, just standard newegg pricing at the time |
| [04:20:46] | clever: | 400mhz P2 is enough for a slave be, but its fairly limiting as a master |
| [04:21:53] | wagnerrp: | well its fairly limiting as a slave be too, since its only going to have ISA, a couple PCI, and USB 1.1 |
| [04:21:55] | Teligard: | Well, right now, I nedd to be able to mount the shares, then I can go from there |
| [04:22:11] | clever: | the sata card has usb 2.0 |
| [04:22:25] | clever: | though i think sata+xfs is maxing the cpu |
| [04:22:49] | clever: | i dont think it can get IO bound |
| [04:23:33] | clever: | though right now, all its using usb for is a webcam, so i dont really need much |
| [04:23:52] | Technophil: | foxbuntu: ?? COnfusion with Teligard? |
| [04:24:35] | foxbuntu: | Technophil, yup, sry, not enough tabbing |
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| [04:41:09] | Technophil: | no worries |
| [04:41:54] | Technophil: | (And thanks for your contribution, I understand its one of the more significant ones) |
| [04:47:44] | foxbuntu: | Technophil, not sure which you are pointing to, but yw |
| [04:47:47] | foxbuntu: | :) |
| [04:49:49] | Technophil: | foxbuntu: Yes was you, but didn't want to offend any of the other significant contributers either.... |
| [04:50:46] | foxbuntu: | Technophil, sry, I just didnt know which contrib you were referring to... |
| [04:52:13] | foxbuntu: | Technophil, most of my work is in mythbuntu, but I have poked myth a time or two |
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| [04:54:55] | Technophil: | foxbuntu: I was referring to your on going work for years now, nothing specific, just the big picture stuff. I don't want to go overboard but I did want to take the opportunity to say thanks, (seeing you said Hi) just in case you needed it! |
| [04:55:32] | foxbuntu: | Technophil, ah yes, well thanks |
| [04:55:52] | foxbuntu: | Technophil, I have been with myth a very long time now |
| [04:59:00] | Teligard: | ok, so what was the trick for getting mythtv to show media located in sub folders? |
| [04:59:13] | wagnerrp: | trick? |
| [04:59:56] | Teligard: | I used the frontend to add the /mnt/mediaserver1/XBMC_layout folder |
| [05:00:12] | wagnerrp: | you dont add folders in the frontend |
| [05:01:24] | Teligard: | ok |
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| [05:01:51] | wagnerrp: | if you want to access videos |
| [05:01:57] | wagnerrp: | you add them to the Videos group on the backend |
| [05:02:37] | Teligard: | ok |
| [05:02:56] | Teligard: | Why is there a section in the frontend? |
| [05:03:05] | wagnerrp: | because that was the old way to do it |
| [05:03:13] | wagnerrp: | and it simply hasnt been removed yet |
| [05:03:23] | Teligard: | oh, ok |
| [05:03:47] | Teligard: | To bad you couldn't use the old code and interface to design profiles |
| [05:03:56] | wagnerrp: | profiles? |
| [05:04:18] | Teligard: | x user has thier own section that they can watch movies from |
| [05:04:45] | Teligard: | Think of the scenario where the mythtv is the primary media device, and you have kids in the house |
| [05:04:51] | wagnerrp: | better to do that properly through the metadata |
| [05:04:58] | wagnerrp: | rather than hackishly through the filesystem |
| [05:05:04] | Teligard: | kids can have thier own folders, etc |
| [05:05:26] | wagnerrp: | you can use parental control levels |
| [05:08:22] | Teligard: | k |
| [05:08:53] | Teligard: | Also could allow for unique skins based on teh current users |
| [05:09:17] | Teligard: | Lots of reasons for them, but, they really aren't that important |
| [05:09:51] | wagnerrp: | lots of reasons, a HUGE amount of code, and a lack of desire to do the work |
| [05:10:20] | Teligard: | Ok, I set the proper top level folder, but it doesn't appear that the Watch Videos section is traversing the sub-folders to pull content |
| [05:10:55] | wagnerrp: | did you ever tell it to scan for content? |
| [05:11:06] | Teligard: | Where is that option? |
| [05:11:26] | wagnerrp: | media library -> watch videos, m -> scan for content |
| [05:12:01] | Teligard: | Ok, now it's scanning... |
| [05:12:08] | Teligard: | See if it finds anything |
| [05:12:14] | Teligard: | (I hope it does) |
| [05:12:52] | Teligard: | Looks like it's doing something, so that's good |
| [05:13:03] | wagnerrp: | its hashing all your content |
| [05:13:05] | Teligard: | The other item I'm working on is that !@#$ lirc |
| [05:13:06] | wagnerrp: | so it should take a good while |
| [05:13:15] | Teligard: | it's @ 3% |
| [05:13:25] | Teligard: | only about 150–160 movies, so not a big library |
| [05:13:41] | Teligard: | Several shows though |
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| [05:17:12] | Teligard: | does it autoscan, or can you set it to autoscan at a certain frequency? |
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| [05:20:25] | wagnerrp: | no, just make sure to tell it to scan in the infrequent event you rip a batch of dvds |
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| [05:42:55] | Beirdo: | BEER! |
| [05:42:58] | Beirdo: | muhahah |
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| [06:18:30] | Teligard: | headed to bed. Work in the morning, and it's already 2:16AM |
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| [08:36:23] | mortne: | Anyone who can help me set up a dtv channel that doesn't come up during a mythtv channel scan? |
| [08:36:45] | mortne: | I have a frequency and a service id... |
| [08:37:23] | mortne: | I don't know what a 'transport' is, and I think that's what I am missing... |
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| [08:46:09] | mycosys: | mortne – advice i have seen is that it is better to dl all the details with your grabber |
| [08:47:15] | mortne: | mycosys: Since it's digital, why would I want to use anything but the EIT guide? Do I need a grabber, also? |
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| [08:48:51] | mycosys: | generally in my experience eit regularly changes the name of programs, stuffing up recoding rules. it also has a lot less detail. it also doesnt specify where your channels are for you simplifying setup greatly lol |
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| [09:09:18] | joshpond: | hi all, does anyone know if the DVB-T version of the hdhomerun is supported in mythtv? |
| [09:17:20] | mortne: | joshpond: Not 100% sure, but I think I tried it once.. It is supported in Windows Media Center for sure, and I cannot think of anything that would make it less supported in mythtv... |
| [09:20:17] | joshpond: | thanks, I'm trying to find a linux version, having trouble with vdr so mythtv may be the go |
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| [10:50:10] | markk: | joshpond: yes – the dvb-t version is fully supported (I use it) |
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| [16:41:08] | J-e-f-f-A: | [ot] Anyone here have experience with ldap, and willing to give me some tips in an PM ? |
| [16:41:59] | J-e-f-f-A: | ... I'm pulling what's left of my hair out at work... DOH! |
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| [16:59:57] | ** J-e-f-f-A finds #openldap ;-) ** | |
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| [17:20:52] | awalls: | Is there such a thing as a decent, prebuilt Linux HTPC? |
| [17:21:26] | ** awalls is looking to spend less time assembling and more money purchasing: time == money ** | |
| [17:21:31] | wagnerrp: | foxbuntu: are you still selling mythtv units? |
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| [19:03:21] | Guest63059: | Wondering if anyone here has some using the flock command |
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| [20:52:04] | bobgill: | Trying to run mythconverg_backup.pl following the Wiki and getting this: http://pastebin.com/V4ZMNxPu |
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| [21:14:46] | k-man: | recently the "what playlist" feature has not been working for me, it plays the first item in the list but fails to play subsequent items, anyone else experienced that? |
| [21:17:12] | k-man: | s/what/play |
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| [21:23:12] | k-man: | ah, seems to be a known problem |
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| [21:29:53] | k-man: | http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/8316 |
| [21:30:49] | k-man: | can you subscribe to a ticket in trac so it will email me if there are any changes to the ticket? |
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| [21:52:55] | ezzieyguywuf: | if I was going to buy a new tower for hd mythtv, including 2 or 3 network adapters, what sort of specs should I aim for and what could I expect to spend? |
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| [22:16:02] | nichos: | hi all, im having problems tuning in to livetv, it jumps back to the main screen. I keep getting this in my log: http://pastebin.com/ELakuEV7 |
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| [22:22:49] | nichos: | ive checked evertying |
| [22:22:57] | nichos: | deleted all my old chans, re-added them |
| [22:23:05] | nichos: | ive also ensured that i have a valid starting chan. |
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| [22:43:33] | wagnerrp: | ezzieyguywuf: why would you want multiple network cards? |
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| [22:44:01] | ezzieyguywuf: | wagnerrp: to record multiple shows at once. is it something else that you need multiples of to do th at? |
| [22:44:06] | ezzieyguywuf: | s/th at/that |
| [22:44:20] | wagnerrp: | but why would you want multiple network cards? |
| [22:44:45] | ezzieyguywuf: | to record multiple shows at once. |
| [22:44:50] | ** ezzieyguywuf scratches head. ** | |
| [22:44:58] | wagnerrp: | my words exactly |
| [22:45:01] | iamlindoro: | What does a network card have to do with recording shows? |
| [22:45:08] | wagnerrp: | network cards, and recording tv, have nothing to do with each other |
| [22:45:11] | iamlindoro: | Perhaps you mean tuner cards? |
| [22:45:19] | ezzieyguywuf: | wagnerrp: lol, yea what he said. |
| [22:45:24] | ezzieyguywuf: | that's my bad. |
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| [23:07:18] | k-man: | ezzieyguywuf, why do you need 2–3 network adaptors? |
| [23:07:57] | ezzieyguywuf: | k-man: I don't, I'd need 2–3 tuner cards |
| [23:08:54] | k-man: | ezzieyguywuf, oh, your question said you wanted 2–3 network adaptors |
| [23:09:04] | k-man: | adapters even |
| [23:09:48] | ezzieyguywuf: | k-man: yea I missoke |
| [23:09:54] | k-man: | ah ok |
| [23:10:14] | ezzieyguywuf: | er, misspoke :-P |
| [23:10:18] | k-man: | i read an interesting article on the new intel chipset – ill see if i can find it |
| [23:10:50] | k-man: | here you go: http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2011/03/revi . . . ater-pc.html |
| [23:11:02] | k-man: | its not mythtv specific, but still interesting imho |
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| [23:15:18] | ezzieyguywuf: | k-man: wow, very interesting. |
| [23:15:49] | k-man: | i really like that author, he writes good stuff |
| [23:16:34] | ezzieyguywuf: | I wonder what bitrate he's playing back those 1080p videos at... |
| [23:18:36] | ezzieyguywuf: | also, I wonder at the point he makes about netflix, and hulu in particular. I have a pretty slow internet connection, but I figure I can download the highdef hulu episodes so they're stored locally, and then watch 'em back at my leisure, with mythtv managing the library of shows.... |
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| [23:24:30] | wagnerrp: | ezzieyguywuf: 20–35mbps, what other bitrate would there be? |
| [23:24:46] | wagnerrp: | hulu does not allow the downloading of content |
| [23:24:52] | wagnerrp: | nor do they have 'highdef' content |
| [23:26:41] | wagnerrp: | you need a fairly high end Ath X2 to reliably do bluray, the Ath IIs and Core 2s do a bit better but you still need more than that 4850 he used in the previous build |
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| [23:27:35] | wagnerrp: | ... |
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