| Wednesday, March 9th, 2011, 00:02 UTC | ||
| [00:02:06] | kormoc: | it should tell you something tho |
| [00:03:04] | NewBuntu81: | it shows, "Index of / |
| [00:03:04] | NewBuntu81: | [ICO] Name Last modified Size Description |
| [00:03:04] | NewBuntu81: | [DIR] mythweb/ 07-Mar-2011 12:24 - |
| [00:03:04] | NewBuntu81: | Apache/2.2.17 (Fedora) Server" |
| [00:03:22] | kormoc: | Do you have mod_php installed? |
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| [00:04:59] | NewBuntu81: | i have php...as in php-5.3.5–1.fc14 installed. mod_php doesn't show up as an option in add/remove. I'll try yumming it |
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| [00:06:52] | NewBuntu81: | "yum install mod_php" --> "Package php-5.3.5–1.fc14.i686 already installed and latest version" |
| [00:07:01] | NewBuntu81: | command and output |
| [00:07:07] | NewBuntu81: | so i guess yes, i do?! |
| [00:07:09] | kormoc: | you might need to configure apache to load it |
| [00:07:29] | kormoc: | I don't know Fedora so I'm not much help |
| [00:07:58] | kormoc: | (or if you installed it after apache was running, restarting apache might be all you need) |
| [00:08:28] | NewBuntu81: | restarting it allowed me to access the webpage via IP, just no myth information on that page. |
| [00:08:45] | NewBuntu81: | I'm thinking it needs to load those files for myth?! are they the *.so's? |
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| [00:10:01] | NewBuntu81: | also i'm confused on whether i'm supposed to be editing at /etc/httpd/conf.d/mythweb.conf, or at /var/www/html/mythweb/mythweb.conf |
| [00:10:18] | clever: | both i think |
| [00:10:36] | clever: | hmmm no, just the first i think |
| [00:10:36] | kormoc: | no, just the /etc/httpd/conf.d/ one |
| [00:10:55] | NewBuntu81: | files in /etc/httpd/conf.d/ are: mod_dnssd.conf mythweb.conf php.conf phpMyAdmin.conf README welcome.conf |
| [00:11:04] | kormoc: | edit the mythweb.conf one |
| [00:11:52] | NewBuntu81: | files in /var/www/html/mythweb are: too many to list, but has a classes, configuration, modules, and a few key files like: mythweb.conf.apache, mythweb.conf.lighttpd, and mythweb.php |
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| [00:20:18] | NewBuntu81: | hehe, now i have the fedora Test page again. |
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| [00:27:25] | NewBuntu81: | stupid question but, on the primary backend...should you be setting the "db_server" as localhost, or the IP of the machine? (same machine) |
| [00:27:52] | wagnerrp: | this is in mythweb? doesnt matter |
| [00:27:59] | Beirdo: | actually, it might |
| [00:28:00] | NewBuntu81: | yes, and ok |
| [00:28:04] | wagnerrp: | nothing gets its information from mythweb except mythweb |
| [00:28:06] | NewBuntu81: | ah... |
| [00:28:20] | wagnerrp: | well... doesnt matter assuming the mythtv account has rights to access the database from localhost |
| [00:28:25] | Beirdo: | there is a way to config where it's not listening on localhost |
| [00:28:30] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [00:28:39] | wagnerrp: | shush you |
| [00:29:12] | Beirdo: | but basically, you should avoid using localhost in the configs if ANY other frontend or backend machine will be accessing it |
| [00:29:17] | wagnerrp: | now for the backend, it would matter if you intend to use upnp auto-discovery |
| [00:29:24] | Beirdo: | it will only cause you odd issues later |
| [00:29:40] | wagnerrp: | since that is the database config the master backend would be sending out to subsequent programs |
| [00:29:55] | wagnerrp: | and if the master backend is telling remote machines to connect to the database on localhost.... |
| [00:30:21] | Beirdo: | bingo :) |
| [00:31:03] | NewBuntu81: | right, so use IP, correct? |
| [00:31:19] | Beirdo: | safest all around, yes |
| [00:32:37] | NewBuntu81: | thanks |
| [00:32:54] | NewBuntu81: | LMAO, "Uncomment the following line to allow PHP to pretty-print .phps files as PHP source code" |
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| [00:41:08] | NewBuntu81: | howdy, clgshaft |
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| [01:04:27] | Twiggy2cents: | how do I change mythweb back to the root address in a url and not a /mythweb? |
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| [01:04:41] | wagnerrp: | with RewriteBase |
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| [01:05:25] | Twiggy2cents: | thanks |
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| [01:08:34] | Twiggy2cents: | so that is moreso a hack? If you install mythweb by default it is accessible by xxx.xxx.x.xxx. Mine is accessed by xxx.xxx.x.xxx/mythweb/. Is that RewriteBase the easiest method in this situation? |
| [01:09:08] | wagnerrp: | if you install mythweb by default it is accessible by xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/mythweb/ |
| [01:09:18] | wagnerrp: | access to it from the webroot is non-standard |
| [01:09:29] | wagnerrp: | and accomplished by messing with the RewriteBase |
| [01:09:37] | wagnerrp: | and possibly other rewrite rules |
| [01:09:48] | wagnerrp: | its been years since ive messes with that, so i dont remember |
| [01:10:01] | Twiggy2cents: | ohh |
| [01:10:52] | sphery: | look in your mythweb.conf, which has a nice description and a commented rewritebase |
| [01:14:55] | Twiggy2cents: | Thank you |
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| [02:25:57] | wagnerrp: | wow |
| [02:26:58] | wagnerrp: | man breaks into home, takes shower, owner comes in, confronts him, so burglar locks himself in the bathroom and calls 911 afraid the home owner has a gun |
| [02:27:16] | [R]: | lol |
| [02:27:30] | [R]: | thats like the druggie who calls the cops cuz he got some bad pot |
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| [02:28:00] | Newbuntu81-2: | i saw that earlier, almost posted it on here but thought i'd get "scolded". crazy |
| [02:28:41] | wagnerrp: | nah, you just get scolded for running fedora |
| [02:29:55] | Newbuntu81-2: | lol |
| [02:29:56] | Newbuntu81-2: | why? |
| [02:30:08] | wagnerrp: | because of your name |
| [02:30:13] | Newbuntu81-2: | hahhaa |
| [02:30:17] | Newbuntu81-2: | that was just to throw you off....jk |
| [02:30:29] | Newbuntu81-2: | i was new at mythbuntu in the beginning, so the name fit. |
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| [03:29:56] | NewBuntu81: | hi all. does anyone know what the "link" in the /var/www folder is for? |
| [03:30:02] | NewBuntu81: | i just realized my link is broken... |
| [03:30:06] | NewBuntu81: | it's to mythweb but its broken |
| [03:30:27] | [R]: | "the link"? huh? mythtv does no such thing |
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| [03:30:45] | NewBuntu81: | with file properties of trying to go to /usr/local/src/mythtv/mythplugins/mythweb |
| [03:30:56] | NewBuntu81: | but that location doesn't exist on fedora |
| [03:31:07] | [R]: | well you'll have to talk to whatever installed it |
| [03:31:08] | NewBuntu81: | maybe i need to change the link, or make a new link? |
| [03:31:10] | [R]: | cuz myth sure doesn't |
| [03:31:19] | [R]: | didn't* |
| [03:32:00] | NewBuntu81: | what "file" in the mythweb folder is launched to start mythweb when you access by IP? |
| [03:32:07] | NewBuntu81: | like on a webpage, it launches index.html |
| [03:32:17] | [R]: | mythweb has an index.php |
| [03:32:28] | NewBuntu81: | where is that located on your box? |
| [03:32:57] | [R]: | in the mythweb directory |
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| [03:33:18] | [R]: | where i put my stuff is reallyu irreevlent from whatever you used ot install mythweb put it |
| [03:33:22] | NewBuntu81: | in the same folder with the mythweb.conf.apache and mythweb.conf.lighttpd files? |
| [03:33:34] | [R]: | in the same directory with all the otehr mythweb files |
| [03:33:35] | NewBuntu81: | sorry, just trying to reverse engineer so i can get this working. |
| [03:33:58] | NewBuntu81: | the web server is working, but it's not calling up the right file or something |
| [03:34:05] | [R]: | sounds like a webserver issue |
| [03:34:09] | [R]: | not a myth issue |
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| [03:35:24] | [R]: | oh wait |
| [03:35:26] | [R]: | its mythweb.php |
| [03:35:53] | NewBuntu81: | ok |
| [03:36:36] | NewBuntu81: | do you have to link your web server folder to mytyweb plugin files in another folder? |
| [03:36:53] | [R]: | no |
| [03:36:56] | [R]: | i know how to set up a webserver properly |
| [03:37:10] | [R]: | pretty sure mythweb comes with setup instructions |
| [03:37:12] | NewBuntu81: | hahaha, well would someone who doesn't do that for a living? |
| [03:37:19] | NewBuntu81: | yep, i've read them, over and over |
| [03:37:26] | NewBuntu81: | highlighted, researched...that's why i'm here :-) |
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| [03:37:50] | NewBuntu81: | i've even gone so far as to compare WORKING files from the mythbuntu mythweb to the nonworking ones in fedora |
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| [03:46:51] | clgshaft: | hey guys i am still getting this error |
| [03:46:52] | clgshaft: | irsend: command failed: SEND_ONCE DCT700 info |
| [03:46:52] | clgshaft: | irsend: hardware does not support sending |
| [03:46:56] | clgshaft: | any ideas? |
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| [03:48:35] | [R]: | clgshaft: the lirc device you are using doesnt have transmit enabled |
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| [04:11:19] | clgshaft: | [R] how do i enable it? |
| [04:11:30] | wagnerrp: | with a hammer |
| [04:11:33] | [R]: | haha |
| [04:11:38] | [R]: | clgshaft: depends on the device, |
| [04:11:57] | clgshaft: | i got a hammer |
| [04:12:03] | [R]: | best to find a guide from someone who has your exact device |
| [04:12:11] | clgshaft: | mce usb blaster |
| [04:12:14] | [R]: | setting up lirc is pretty much out of the scope of mythtv |
| [04:12:24] | [R]: | "mce usb blaster" could mean anytinhg |
| [04:12:29] | [R]: | theres a million different models |
| [04:13:08] | clgshaft: | [ 6.836230] lirc_dev: IR Remote Control driver registered, major 250 |
| [04:13:09] | clgshaft: | [ 6.837483] rc rc0: lirc_dev: driver ir-lirc-codec (mceusb) registered at minor = 0 |
| [04:13:24] | clgshaft: | nm |
| [04:13:26] | [R]: | a) don't flod b) that says absolutely nothing |
| [04:13:36] | clgshaft: | i know |
| [04:13:39] | clgshaft: | sorry |
| [04:13:46] | clgshaft: | wrong paste |
| [04:13:54] | wagnerrp: | hes fine, that was only two lines |
| [04:14:22] | [R]: | notice i only used 1 o instead of 2 o's |
| [04:14:29] | [R]: | lol |
| [04:14:52] | clgshaft: | SMK Manufacturing, Inc. eHome Infrared Receiver |
| [04:15:09] | clgshaft: | that has a blaster |
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| [04:43:55] | sphery: | wagnerrp: yeah, dblain is the one who wrote (and did virtually all maintenance on) MythXMLTest |
| [04:44:10] | wagnerrp: | what maintenance? |
| [04:44:21] | sphery: | maybe one or 2 changes |
| [04:44:23] | sphery: | :) |
| [04:44:33] | wagnerrp: | he wrote it 5 years ago, and hasnt touched it in 4 |
| [04:44:38] | sphery: | yeah |
| [04:44:46] | wagnerrp: | of course the interface has been static over those four years |
| [04:44:52] | wagnerrp: | and there has been no need for touching |
| [04:45:07] | sphery: | I almost changed it for the query_recordings update, but decided not to since he was rewriting the server |
| [04:45:38] | ** wagnerrp really loves json, when xml is the alternative ** | |
| [04:46:04] | [R]: | if you love json so much |
| [04:46:06] | [R]: | why dont you marry it |
| [04:46:21] | ** wagnerrp ... touches ... json ** | |
| [04:46:25] | sphery: | heh, yeah, json makes a lot more sense for a lot of stuff |
| [04:46:59] | wagnerrp: | i just really _hate_ dealing with the tree structures that xml parsers produce |
| [04:47:13] | wagnerrp: | json, you just get a bunch of maps or lists |
| [04:47:22] | sphery: | or objects |
| [04:51:46] | confuzed: | I lost the blaster cable for my SMK USB MCE IR reciever (http://www.hauppauge.com/images/mce_remote_wi . . . g_large.jpg) can anyone tell me if cutting the blaster off the old PVR 150 IR blaster/reciever and slapping a miniplug on the end of it would work? |
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| [04:53:58] | confuzed: | only other alternative I see is to put a pvr 150 in my frontend so I can use it's blaster... not my favorite option. |
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| [04:54:37] | wagnerrp: | why do you need a blaster in a frontend? |
| [04:54:40] | [R]: | why does your frontend need a blaster to begin with... |
| [04:54:44] | confuzed: | lol |
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| [04:55:53] | confuzed: | I was hoping to control the volume on my stereo with it. It's connected via spdif and I don't have a remote for the reciever anymore. |
| [04:56:19] | wagnerrp: | how were you going to get the codes if you dont have the remote? |
| [04:56:26] | confuzed: | uhhh |
| [04:56:55] | ** wagnerrp thinks confuzed is confuzed ** | |
| [04:57:01] | confuzed: | I hoped that I'd find them on the net somewhere? Its a sony reciever, cant be too hard to find. |
| [04:57:05] | [R]: | rofl |
| [04:59:44] | confuzed: | Screw it... I'll make my wife get up and adjust the volume... then maybe she will let me spend some cash on a decent remote that I can just program to control the reciever. |
| [05:00:07] | confuzed: | ... and the frontend. |
| [05:00:16] | wagnerrp: | got any cheap universal remotes laying around? |
| [05:00:37] | wagnerrp: | cheap $10 radioshack universal or something |
| [05:00:51] | wagnerrp: | it may have the codes |
| [05:01:00] | confuzed: | We moved recently and I tossed most of that junk. I might have one in a box somewhere. Then of course I can't justify a $100 remote though. |
| [05:01:03] | wagnerrp: | meaning getting them back out would be a matter of programming it for the receiver |
| [05:01:19] | wagnerrp: | and then reading them with 'mode2' from your mceusb receiver |
| [05:01:29] | confuzed: | ahh... I see what your saying. |
| [05:01:43] | wagnerrp: | mode2 being a low level access to the device, bypassing lircd's filter |
| [05:03:44] | confuzed: | I'll have to rethink my strategy a bit... I think I would really prefer a new remote over everything else. But back to the original question. Do you know if there is anything but an IR Emmiter at the end of the cable on either the SMK USB or the PVR 150 blasters? |
| [05:04:15] | [R]: | resistors, differnet pinouts, etc |
| [05:04:23] | [R]: | capacitors |
| [05:06:04] | confuzed: | Thats what I am concerned about. I know they are both just 2 wires, but whats at the end could be vastly different or identical. |
| [05:06:34] | wagnerrp: | the mceusb blasters are 2-pin, the hauppauge ones are 4-pin |
| [05:06:43] | wagnerrp: | because the hauppauge IR port is for send and receive |
| [05:06:49] | wagnerrp: | thus, they are not compatible |
| [05:07:36] | confuzed: | right. 2 for the recieve 2 for the transmit. I was going to cut the emitter off and slap on a standard mono miniplug (if I had good reason to believe it would work) |
| [05:09:03] | confuzed: | I don't think I'll chance it. |
| [05:09:27] | ** [R] steps a few feet back and watches the explosion ** | |
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| [05:10:10] | confuzed: | lol... I hardly think there would be fireworks. magic smoke maybe. |
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| [05:18:14] | wagnerrp: | i dont get it |
| [05:18:33] | wagnerrp: | if i open the connection info page with the right pin, everything works properly |
| [05:18:49] | wagnerrp: | if i open it with the wrong pin, firefox gives me a 501 (not authorized) |
| [05:18:56] | wagnerrp: | but python gives me a 404 (not found) |
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| [06:42:16] | Brent_: | hey guys, i have tried installing lirc and i still get the my hardware does not support sending |
| [06:42:55] | [R]: | what odes installing lirc have to do with that? |
| [06:43:00] | [R]: | and can't you just pick a nick and stick with it? |
| [06:43:19] | Brent_: | oh lol |
| [06:43:24] | Brent_: | dont know why that chnaged |
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| [06:53:04] | clgshaft: | ok i think it is my hardware.conf file |
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| [06:57:47] | clgshaft: | nm i have no clue |
| [06:57:48] | clgshaft: | lol |
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| [07:15:00] | nevcx: | \q |
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| [07:39:29] | justinh: | wagnerrp: hey, you... you bubble popper, you ;-) |
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| [07:49:05] | Beirdo: | I have some bubble-wrap for him |
| [07:50:43] | justinh: | FGS.. what is it with the time & attendance booking system here? It's *lost* entries I definitely remember putting in |
| [07:51:10] | justinh: | stupid .NET & MS SQL abomination |
| [07:51:31] | justinh: | made by our own in-house IT goons, who are no longer with the company |
| [07:52:04] | justinh: | looks like I'll have to be vigilant & enter my times like a good boy every day instead of in batches |
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| [11:49:52] | justinh: | is it morning? heh |
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| [13:02:29] | wagnerrp: | justinh: you know me, always ready with a pin |
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| [14:12:21] | xyzabc: | seems like my audio tracks are always slightly out of sync with the video. is there a general solution to this issue |
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| [14:13:08] | wagnerrp: | what type of tuner do you have? |
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| [14:14:26] | xyzabc: | pcHDTV HD5500 |
| [14:14:41] | wagnerrp: | and youre recording analog or digital? |
| [14:16:46] | xyzabc: | digital |
| [14:17:04] | xyzabc: | so it should not be an issue with the recording per se |
| [14:17:10] | wagnerrp: | have you tried these recordings in other programs? |
| [14:17:25] | xyzabc: | what? |
| [14:17:34] | wagnerrp: | the recordings, the ones you made in mythtv |
| [14:17:40] | wagnerrp: | have you tried them in another program |
| [14:17:57] | xyzabc: | yes I think they are o.k. if I play them back with another program |
| [14:18:34] | wagnerrp: | think or confirmed? |
| [14:19:38] | xyzabc: | well, if I play them back on a different system with another program they are fine. I have not really played them on the same system with a different program, so it is not a problem with the file per se, but seems to be a mythttv issue |
| [14:20:00] | wagnerrp: | system doesnt matter, just wanted to confirm the files themselves were fine |
| [14:20:09] | wagnerrp: | are you using pulseaudio by any chance? |
| [14:20:42] | xyzabc: | yes |
| [14:20:49] | wagnerrp: | stop using pulseaudio |
| [14:21:07] | xyzabc: | it is the standard audio system for fedora |
| [14:21:15] | wagnerrp: | so uninstall it |
| [14:21:26] | xyzabc: | what do I use instead? |
| [14:21:34] | wagnerrp: | the same thing youre using already |
| [14:21:36] | wagnerrp: | ALSA |
| [14:21:47] | wagnerrp: | pulseaudio does not have any hardware support |
| [14:21:49] | xyzabc: | so no configuration changes to mythtv |
| [14:22:06] | wagnerrp: | its just an unnecessary layer between the software and audio hardware |
| [14:22:06] | xyzabc: | o.k. let me give that a try. |
| [14:22:34] | wagnerrp: | make sure your audio device is 'ALSA:default' |
| [14:22:34] | xyzabc: | does it handle mixing when multiple sounds are played at the same time by different programs or something? |
| [14:23:17] | wagnerrp: | with DMIX, yes |
| [14:25:49] | wagnerrp: | what you wont be able to do? you cant dynamically shift between multiple outputs, and you cant push audio to another computer |
| [14:26:01] | wagnerrp: | but so few people actually need to do such |
| [14:26:13] | wagnerrp: | there was absolutely no reason for pulse to be forced on everyone |
| [14:28:40] | xyzabc: | well not the remote control does not work |
| [14:28:58] | wagnerrp: | the remote control has absolutely nothing to do with pulseaudio |
| [14:29:45] | justinh: | it's not even as if you can *easily* change between PA configs on the fly anyway |
| [14:30:40] | justinh: | ok it's easier than editing a config file, restarting a service.. but still... |
| [14:31:40] | xyzabc: | wagnerrp, the remote control someware has always been really tempermental. I think it has to do with the order the modules load in |
| [14:32:14] | justinh: | if lirc isn't running when mythfrontend loads, it won't make any difference when lirc finally loads because mythfrontend only looks for it once |
| [14:32:27] | justinh: | so make sure lirc is running before starting mythfrontend |
| [14:32:28] | wagnerrp: | the sound is pulseaudio, now alsa... the ir is lirc, or possibly Xorg |
| [14:32:37] | wagnerrp: | either way, they are not in any way connected |
| [14:33:06] | wagnerrp: | i really dont understand why pulse took off like it did |
| [14:33:09] | justinh: | wagnerrp: unless you're using the audio device as an IR receiver |
| [14:33:26] | justinh: | people do that, apparently. shudder |
| [14:33:30] | wagnerrp: | i mean sound servers made sense at one point |
| [14:33:50] | wagnerrp: | but anymore, if the sound card itself doesnt provide hardware mixing, ALSA enables DMIX by default to do mixing in software |
| [14:34:05] | xyzabc: | how else do you handle sound input from multiple programs at the same time? is there hardware support for this? |
| [14:34:10] | justinh: | but MUHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, being able to switch between my bluetooth headset & my crappy analogue 7.1 surround setup is awesome! |
| [14:34:19] | xyzabc: | don't need it on the mythtv system but on other systems |
| [14:34:40] | wagnerrp: | xyzabc: as just explained, if the sound card itself does not provide hardware mixing, ALSA will enable DMIX to do sound mixing in software |
| [14:34:40] | justinh: | there's DMIX, and some modern soundcards even have hardware mixing |
| [14:35:01] | wagnerrp: | DMIX has been enabled by default for some number of years now |
| [14:35:16] | xyzabc: | I see |
| [14:35:32] | justinh: | I dunno why people want to have simultaneous audio anyway. first thing I do is turn notification noises off. they're bloody annoying |
| [14:35:55] | justinh: | boop beep. plop! click! BANG |
| [14:36:20] | wagnerrp: | well it depends on the application, and whether it cleanly relinquishes control of a device |
| [14:36:33] | wagnerrp: | say your listening to music, and want to watch some flash video |
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| [14:36:53] | wagnerrp: | will the music player give up the sound card when you hit pause |
| [14:37:03] | wagnerrp: | or will it keep it, and block your browser from accessing it |
| [14:37:24] | wagnerrp: | mixing bypasses the whole issue |
| [14:38:04] | justinh: | and as for the in-duh-vidual volume controls pulseaudio allegedly offers... last time I saw that on ubuntu it was a proper PITA to bring it up |
| [14:38:35] | justinh: | easy to see it was all about aping how windows vista/7 does it, but sadly not as easy to actually do it |
| [14:38:50] | ** justinh could bitch about PA all day, all night.. and all month ** | |
| [14:39:15] | wagnerrp: | well this seems rather suspicious... http://www.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/ . . . /311777.html |
| [14:40:04] | justinh: | quite |
| [14:40:32] | justinh: | I think if he lacks the nouse to dump a stream into a file.. er.. he's on a hiding to nothing in his quest to do anything dodgy :-P |
| [14:41:43] | justinh: | but maybe, just maybe, he'll spot something easy that zillions of people who've looked before him have missed & we'll all get free teevee |
| [14:47:05] | jarle: | Is there a reason that "Title search" set to record any time on any channel does not seem to honor any dupe-checking? It seems to schedule all recordings, even if it has been recorded before??? |
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| [14:48:07] | justinh: | can't any recording rule do duplicate checking? I thought that was the case |
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| [14:49:33] | jarle: | justinh: so did I, that's why this has me wondering... |
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| [15:08:51] | wagnerrp: | justinh: seems its something considerably more innocent, and considerably more ignorant |
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| [15:26:10] | ** justinh sniggers ** | |
| [15:26:31] | justinh: | oh man, do I EVER wish those bumpers & DOGs were put there by the receiver |
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| [15:28:13] | ** justinh looks on the back of his head for one of those big circular locking connectors ** | |
| [15:28:25] | wagnerrp: | impressive |
| [15:28:34] | wagnerrp: | i cant see back there myself |
| [15:28:52] | justinh: | no cameras? ;-) |
| [15:29:04] | wagnerrp: | although ive got a little zit back there in just the right spot |
| [15:29:41] | justinh: | my 'roid phone just got me out of a hole at work. needed to read a board serial number but the label was misaligned in the printer rendering the numbers illegible. Barcode reader to the rescue! |
| [15:30:08] | wagnerrp: | hey now, this is a family friendly channel |
| [15:30:15] | wagnerrp: | no talking about 'roids and holes |
| [15:30:20] | justinh: | lol |
| [15:30:49] | wagnerrp: | we dont want to know about your flare ups |
| [15:31:03] | jams: | thanks wagnerrp for that image |
| [15:31:13] | justinh: | I need to go home |
| [15:32:29] | wagnerrp: | jams: im going to toss one last email to the list tonight to see if there are any last minute requests of data |
| [15:32:43] | jams: | k |
| [15:32:43] | wagnerrp: | ive got a copy of the data packet im generating currently, if you want me to email it to you |
| [15:32:56] | jams: | yeah i could take a look |
| [15:33:00] | wagnerrp: | its pretty-printed, and actually human readable |
| [15:33:23] | jams: | i have to say pretty print is one of the best features of python |
| [15:33:40] | wagnerrp: | actually, its pretty printed by the json code, bot the pprint module |
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| [15:33:52] | jams: | oh |
| [15:34:08] | jams: | well my statement still stands :) |
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| [15:34:55] | wagnerrp: | php has some 'array_dump' or something like that which functions very similarly |
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| [15:43:30] | wagnerrp: | sent, let me know if you think there will be any problems |
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| [15:48:57] | jams: | will do |
| [15:49:06] | jams: | do you think it's worth reporting the mysql version? |
| [15:50:32] | wagnerrp: | kormoc wanted it |
| [15:50:44] | wagnerrp: | getting information about the available engines would definately be useful |
| [15:50:46] | jams: | oh it's already in the list |
| [15:51:07] | jams: | nevermind |
| [15:51:08] | wagnerrp: | as we may be interested in moving to InnoDB (from MyISAM) |
| [15:51:18] | wagnerrp: | but a number of distros disable it by default |
| [15:51:24] | jams: | knew about the storage engine, but skipped right over the version |
| [15:51:39] | jams: | even read the note about the dump not having it. |
| [15:51:55] | wagnerrp: | yeah, i know i added it, but i didnt see it in the dump anywhere |
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| [16:22:09] | sphery: | wagnerrp: Ah, good. Now that you've convinced people that Tegra 3/Kal-El isn't the way to go, a user is suggesting that others set up the PogoPlug to run the backend and MySQL server. |
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| [16:23:02] | sphery: | "My power consumption when the system is idle has dropped from approx 100W to about 15W"... Pretty impressive for a system with capture cards and HDDs... After all, I'm sure he's not comparing apples and oranges. |
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| [16:26:56] | wagnerrp: | oh? i dont see that thread |
| [16:27:33] | mycosys: | 100w idle?? |
| [16:27:40] | mycosys: | seems a touch hefty |
| [16:28:12] | wagnerrp: | yeah, thats what happens when youve got 16 hard drives, and you cant spin down most of them because it makes your raid card unhappy |
| [16:29:12] | wagnerrp: | sphery: should have mentioned the mac mini idles under 10W |
| [16:29:23] | mycosys: | jebus |
| [16:29:42] | wagnerrp: | the new ones anyway, the older PPC ones ran hot |
| [16:29:59] | ** mycosys is sad ppc is no more ** | |
| [16:30:48] | wagnerrp: | i think IBM was honestly happy to get out of the business |
| [16:31:18] | wagnerrp: | not enough volume for the price they could charge and the time spent on development |
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| [16:31:38] | mycosys: | motorola/freescale was the one making em at the end |
| [16:31:47] | mycosys: | IBM has continued on with power |
| [16:31:50] | wagnerrp: | comparatively, have you see the prices their P6 and P7 servers go for? |
| [16:31:58] | mycosys: | no? |
| [16:32:00] | wagnerrp: | i thought the PPC970 was an IBM chip |
| [16:32:16] | wagnerrp: | derived from the P4 |
| [16:32:35] | mycosys: | not sure – i know g6 was waiting on motorola and they couldnt get it cool enuf so apple finally ditched em |
| [16:33:11] | mycosys: | and freescale were the only ones making powerpc after that afaik |
| [16:33:27] | mycosys: | pegasOS wasnt it? |
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| [16:35:20] | sphery: | wagnerrp: oh, yeah... |
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| [16:38:43] | wagnerrp: | im going to make a new trac component for the xml stuff |
| [16:38:48] | wagnerrp: | should that be under MythTV or Bindings? |
| [16:39:18] | wagnerrp: | im partial to listing it as a separate set of bindings |
| [16:41:37] | sphery: | probably a new component |
| [16:41:58] | sphery: | just make a MythXML or backend HTTP server or ... component |
| [16:42:09] | sphery: | which is what you said... :) |
| [16:42:51] | wagnerrp: | i mean im just thinking its intended to be used for external access, right? |
| [16:44:03] | sphery: | yeah, makes sense--and it will likely be used by other bindings, anyway |
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| [17:19:03] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp: Wasn't the boxee frontend guy using almost exclusively MythXML? |
| [17:21:54] | wagnerrp: | i thought one of them was |
| [17:22:01] | wagnerrp: | couldnt remember if it was the boxee or the roku guy |
| [17:24:39] | wagnerrp: | there was some discussion about calls on one of the xbmc forum threads |
| [17:24:48] | wagnerrp: | but i think they dropped mythxml for going all protocol/database |
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| [17:33:11] | wagnerrp: | huh... i didnt know c++ had a try...catch... construct |
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| [19:07:41] | kormoc: | Ahh... nothing like decently large databases... Query OK, 1131825185 rows affected (1 day 41 min 47.34 sec) |
| [19:13:47] | Beirdo: | hehehe |
| [19:14:08] | Beirdo: | good thing that's not the scheduler :) |
| [19:14:23] | sphery: | Sounds like you need to switch to Mongo DB. I hear it's web scale. |
| [19:20:32] | kormoc: | Oh yeah, for sure. 1.1 billion rows is nothing for a Mongo cluster of 10x the servers I currently have! |
| [19:22:34] | sphery: | heh |
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| [19:22:57] | sphery: | I'm sure there's a cloud for that... |
| [19:23:02] | sphery: | maybe cloud 9 |
| [19:23:04] | kormoc: | ha! |
| [19:26:48] | wagnerrp: | is that the one in outer space? |
| [19:29:41] | wagnerrp: | everyone knows server farms go much faster in orbit |
| [19:30:11] | wagnerrp: | i mean youre only going like 1000mph on the ground, but youre going like 25000mph in space |
| [19:31:25] | sphery: | nice |
| [19:31:39] | wagnerrp: | thats like 25x faster |
| [19:31:39] | sphery: | I think I'll hire one out to do my commflagging |
| [19:31:43] | sphery: | that will work great |
| [19:31:59] | wagnerrp: | or like 600x more powerful |
| [19:32:05] | sphery: | now commercial flagging 25x faster |
| [19:32:18] | sphery: | *after uploading to the in-orbit cloud, at 25kbps |
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| [19:45:22] | clgshaft: | Hey guys, I have the remote and receiver working with lirc, meaning I can change channels, but the ir blaster says not allowed send commands. Where or what is a solution for this? Thanks |
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| [19:59:27] | clgshaft: | No lirc experts? |
| [19:59:55] | wagnerrp: | well there is one, but he doesnt seem to be here at the moment |
| [20:00:47] | clgshaft: | Ok |
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| [20:01:01] | wagnerrp: | 'he' being the current lirc maintainer |
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| [20:10:19] | clgshaft: | Ok |
| [20:10:48] | clgshaft: | Any idea what file activates allowing send commands? |
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| [20:13:39] | iamlindoro: | There's no file, the capabilities are registered by the driver |
| [20:15:23] | clgshaft: | Ok, so could I be missing a driver? |
| [20:15:31] | sphery: | s/missing/using the wrong/ |
| [20:16:31] | clgshaft: | I have followed the mce guide on wiki, which install mceusb2 |
| [20:16:56] | clgshaft: | The receiver works, well half the buttons do |
| [20:17:12] | sphery: | which means you're likely using the in-kernel keyboard driver, not the lirc drivers |
| [20:17:21] | ** sphery is guessing ** | |
| [20:19:23] | clgshaft: | I am using my keyboard driver to blast, but should be using the lirc driver to blast? |
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| [20:45:16] | sphery: | wagnerrp: It's official. A 1.2GHz ARM (Marvell Kirkwood 6281) chip (in a PogoPlug) is /not/ underpowered for running a master mythbackend and MySQL server. |
| [20:45:22] | sphery: | I just read this on the -users list |
| [20:45:38] | wagnerrp: | yeah, im writing up a response currently |
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| [20:46:40] | sphery: | heh |
| [20:46:48] | sphery: | I'm waiting anxiously |
| [20:47:13] | sphery: | seems our users are all about cheap--and not inexpensive |
| [21:00:33] | Beirdo: | heh |
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| [21:01:34] | uW: | forget the 1W..hamster powered is the goal.. |
| [21:02:30] | Beirdo: | and if you need it faster, supply a cat to scare the hamster |
| [21:02:49] | clever: | or better yet, put butter on the top of a cat and drop it |
| [21:03:03] | clever: | cats always land on there feet, and bread always lands butter side down |
| [21:03:08] | clever: | but if you combine the 2! |
| [21:03:30] | Beirdo: | !trout clever |
| [21:03:30] | ** MythLogBot slaps clever with a trout on behalf of Beirdo... ** | |
| [21:03:31] | uW: | OMG!!! i think the world would end |
| [21:04:03] | iamlindoro: | I swear the silicondust site has gone through three redesigns in the last month, but still no HDHR Prime |
| [21:04:33] | clever: | sphery: if the performance of a pogoplug was ok, it would be a very nice idea for remote wakeup of slaves to save massive power |
| [21:04:35] | Beirdo: | last I heard, it was in interop testing |
| [21:05:11] | clever: | though you can probly do things simpler/better by just using wake on lan to wake the master when needed |
| [21:05:21] | wagnerrp: | iamlindoro: theyre getting bored waiting for certification |
| [21:05:32] | iamlindoro: | Beirdo: Last I got out of them was that all testing was done and they were being hung out to dry by CableLabs |
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| [21:05:41] | Beirdo: | heh, that could be |
| [21:06:11] | sphery: | clever: you can still use it for remote wakeup of slaves /and/ master backend to save massive power... |
| [21:06:34] | sphery: | just don't try to run the master backend and mysql on it |
| [21:06:43] | sphery: | (and, can wake your mysql server, too) |
| [21:06:54] | clever: | cant the frontend run a command if it cant contact the mysql server? |
| [21:07:21] | sphery: | backends can |
| [21:07:39] | sphery: | don't think the frontend can--since the frontend needs backends |
| [21:07:57] | clever: | i thought there was a config.txt entry for that, though it could be long gone by now |
| [21:08:05] | sphery: | ah, and now I see you said the same... "< clever> though you can probly do things simpler/better by just using wake on lan to wake the master when needed" |
| [21:08:25] | sphery: | there is a config.xml/mysql.txt entry for that, but it's used by backends |
| [21:08:47] | clever: | ah, so the frontend would need a slave backend before it has a chance of waking the master |
| [21:10:35] | ** Beirdo shakes a fist at his HDPVR ** | |
| [21:10:48] | Beirdo: | obviously needs a good ole-fashioned power cycle |
| [21:11:22] | Beirdo: | it crapped out the other day, apparently... I had 11 0-byte recordings... and the device is no longer seen by lsusb |
| [21:11:27] | Beirdo: | sigh |
| [21:11:37] | Beirdo: | well, once I get home... |
| [21:12:21] | sphery: | WOLsqlCommand and WOLsqlReconnectWaitTime |
| [21:12:24] | clever: | one of my old harddrive enclosures would vanish from lsusb after reboot, id need to manualy reconnect it after each reboot |
| [21:12:37] | Beirdo: | this wasn't a reboot |
| [21:12:54] | clever: | in my case, it never worked if it was plugged in at power up |
| [21:22:33] | sphery: | clever: thanks for helping me find that one |
| [21:22:46] | ** sphery wonders where the commit message is ** | |
| [21:25:16] | sphery: | Beirdo: ok, so no commit cook or #mythtv-commits for my most-recent commit ( https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/03e12 . . . e6b711fd1318 ), but it also doesn't appear at github's News list – https://github.com/organizations/MythTV |
| [21:25:26] | sphery: | so seems it's just github brokenness |
| [21:25:37] | sphery: | or I've become a commit ninja |
| [21:27:01] | sphery: | or github slowness. |
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| [21:28:16] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [21:28:33] | Beirdo: | it does occasionally miss them it seems |
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| [21:29:55] | sphery: | yeah, finally came through the e-mail list, but not #-commits, it seems |
| [21:30:09] | sphery: | weird... |
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| [21:34:14] | wagnerrp: | sphery: didnt we have some user who noted that things actually started breaking when his scheduler times were running up over 2 minutes? |
| [21:37:49] | iamlindoro: | closed->Don'tUseCarpHardware |
| [21:37:53] | iamlindoro: | hah, or Crap |
| [21:38:11] | wagnerrp: | mythtv doesnt run on fish |
| [21:38:25] | wagnerrp: | actually... i wanted to cite that as a reason to have real hardware |
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| [21:42:37] | kormoc: | wagnerrp, yes, the guy who had his recordings start multiple minutes after the scheduled time |
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| [21:56:49] | sphery: | wagnerrp: I think you're thinking of nutron's "things start 2 minutes late" issue (and logs that showed reschedules being interrupted), but that was with good hardware and it cleared up after starting a new DB--so something was broken in configuration |
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| [21:57:04] | sphery: | at least the 2min late thing cleared up |
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| [21:57:12] | sphery: | seems the reschedule interruptions are common |
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| [21:58:14] | sphery: | wagnerrp: the most-likely-noticeable issue is the one users keep bringing up on the list that when a reschedule happens, they see UI lockups |
| [21:58:25] | sphery: | even playback pausing and stuff |
| [21:58:33] | sphery: | even if the backend is remote from frontend |
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| [22:18:13] | TheWarden: | Hi is it possible to control the tv guide, to load my own sources of data and have it auto scroll with the option of using full screen half screen top or bottom? |
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| [22:24:34] | TheWarden: | looking for a way to do a scrolling lineup (scrolling tv guide) using MythTV. |
| [22:25:21] | sphery: | got a picture that shows an example? |
| [22:25:38] | sphery: | I'm guessing you could create a theme to do what you want, but don't really understand what you want |
| [22:26:17] | sphery: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythUI_Theme_Development + http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythUI_Demo_Theme + http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythUI_XML_Examples have more info |
| [22:26:46] | TheWarden: | sphery: well not sure the screen shot would show it all. I want to provide my meta data source for the guide then make the guide auto scroll. Then I need the ability to use full screen guide or have it only use half the screen. |
| [22:26:55] | TheWarden: | When half have the option to set it to top or bottom of screen. |
| [22:27:07] | sphery: | well, our guide only uses the guide info in the db |
| [22:27:21] | sphery: | which only uses xmltv or Schedules Direct data |
| [22:27:33] | sphery: | so if you want your own, you'd have to create an XMLTV grabber for it |
| [22:27:37] | TheWarden: | sphery: Oh so one can change what it uses for a source and what channels to have on it? |
| [22:27:39] | sphery: | or need to put your data elsewhere |
| [22:28:02] | sphery: | yes, it turns out that not everyone in the world has the same channels I do... ;) |
| [22:28:04] | TheWarden: | mmm so the rest would be possible? |
| [22:28:12] | iamlindoro: | Auto-scroll is not possible |
| [22:28:13] | TheWarden: | lol you know what I mean though |
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| [22:28:19] | TheWarden: | crap, really? |
| [22:28:20] | sphery: | don't know for sure about the theming stuff |
| [22:28:24] | iamlindoro: | nor can you toggle the half of the screen the guide is on in real time |
| [22:28:27] | sphery: | but iamlindoro is an expert on theming |
| [22:28:48] | TheWarden: | iamlindoro: well that option would be set prior to using it. |
| [22:29:12] | iamlindoro: | It wouldn't be an option, but you could theme it such that the guide appeared only on half of the screen, but that's not a user-accessible option, it would be hardcoded in the theme |
| [22:29:23] | iamlindoro: | And no auto-scroll |
| [22:29:46] | wagnerrp: | !seen devinheitmueller |
| [22:29:46] | MythLogBot: | devinheitmueller was last seen 13 days 23 hours 8 minutes ago |
| [22:29:47] | TheWarden: | mm interesting so the only issue really is getting auto-scroll |
| [22:29:56] | wagnerrp: | the linuxtv devs, theyve abandoned us |
| [22:30:06] | sphery: | what are you doing? trying to create your own annoying TV Guide channel? |
| [22:30:14] | TheWarden: | basically looking to achieve what the old TV Guide channel does.... scrolling guide |
| [22:30:21] | sphery: | you know, the ones that always show the channels /just after/ the one I want to see |
| [22:30:22] | wagnerrp: | why would you want that? |
| [22:30:31] | TheWarden: | sphery: lol yuppers |
| [22:30:34] | wagnerrp: | when you have a remote that would let you manually scroll on demand |
| [22:30:51] | wagnerrp: | the only reason to have a scrolling guide is because you have no interactive control |
| [22:30:53] | sphery: | even in a hotel when I don't know what channels they have, I don't use that since it wastes so much of my time |
| [22:30:59] | TheWarden: | lol believe it or not many people want it and in certain situations its perfect. A way to get info out there for a university, college, hotels, etc. |
| [22:31:07] | sphery: | it's easier to find info on the internet |
| [22:31:20] | wagnerrp: | so then youre trying to build a commercial system? |
| [22:31:33] | TheWarden: | I agree but there is ppl out there wanting it... so this is why I'm asking to see if MythTV could do it even with some alterations. |
| [22:32:02] | TheWarden: | Well maybe no idea at the stage yet... obviously if that went commercial it would be an issue I'm guessing with licensing of MythTV not sure. |
| [22:32:09] | wagnerrp: | there is no one out there who both wants it, and has used the interactive alternative |
| [22:32:35] | wagnerrp: | unless they really dont want any of it |
| [22:32:36] | TheWarden: | Really I now of three companies that do just that and they sell such a service. |
| [22:32:40] | wagnerrp: | and are just using TV for background noise |
| [22:32:59] | wagnerrp: | yes, they are services for non-interactive use |
| [22:32:59] | TheWarden: | I see where you guys are coming from and I agree but hey if there is market then way not. |
| [22:33:03] | wagnerrp: | for analog cable without boxes |
| [22:33:24] | TheWarden: | yup... even high schools would find this of use. |
| [22:33:36] | wagnerrp: | for analog cable systems |
| [22:33:43] | clever: | sphery: yeah, i sometimes add the local provider to my SD list and fire up an xmlltv client, just to get a guide for the hotel |
| [22:33:57] | TheWarden: | I know its hard to believe but there is way more analog then one realizes. I was shocked too. |
| [22:34:24] | wagnerrp: | but if youre using mythtv, then you have a computer and a remote, and have an interactive menu |
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| [22:35:19] | TheWarden: | yes yes I know wagnerrp... but that part would not be used if this was an viable option to go to. I'm looking for this as an option to reduce costs in a company and at the same time looking at providing regular revenue to MythTV as donations. |
| [22:35:51] | TheWarden: | a win win situation to me. |
| [22:36:12] | wagnerrp: | so this would be for a traditional analog cable system, with multiple broadcast channels and a scrolling guide |
| [22:36:45] | wagnerrp: | im just missing some basic understanding of what you want |
| [22:37:01] | wagnerrp: | you want to make a scrolling menu in the frontend, but then youre not going to use the frontend? |
| [22:37:32] | TheWarden: | lol let me post a picture |
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| [22:37:52] | wagnerrp: | and he quits.... |
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| [22:39:44] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp: Heh, was just about to confirm #9647 to you |
| [22:39:45] | wagnerrp: | mmm... look at that milestone get set automatically |
| [22:40:47] | wagnerrp: | now we need to get someone to do it for a 0.24 commit, and hope the thing doesnt freak out |
| [22:41:55] | wagnerrp: | im going home... |
| [22:42:05] | wagnerrp: | maybe thewarden will be back with a picture by the time i get there |
| [22:42:22] | iamlindoro: | He had to quit |
| [22:42:30] | iamlindoro: | how else was he going to get MythTV on the top of the screen |
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| [22:43:03] | TheWarden: | okay here is a screen shot, http://bayimg.com/laEgLAadf |
| [22:43:10] | TheWarden: | this is running full screen |
| [22:43:11] | wagnerrp: | iamlindoro: hey now, gnome 3 hasnt been released yet, we still have the minimize button |
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| [22:43:14] | TheWarden: | it auto scrolls |
| [22:43:57] | wagnerrp: | yeah... still going home |
| [22:44:03] | NewBuntu81: | lmao |
| [22:44:26] | NewBuntu81: | I can see where a "Tv guide channel" would come in useful...but i still prefer mythweb--if i can get it working in fedora :-) |
| [22:44:32] | iamlindoro: | That's not a functional image from here... but the half naked dudes in the ad are visible, thanks for that |
| [22:45:44] | NewBuntu81: | must be a "scrolling ad". mines a cigarette. |
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| [22:46:26] | TheWarden: | ads I never saw any |
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| [22:47:14] | TheWarden: | ahh gotta love adblock |
| [22:47:25] | TheWarden: | so can I do this with MythTV? |
| [22:48:27] | iamlindoro: | Again, no auto-scroll, you'd need to rewrite the guide widget |
| [22:48:42] | TheWarden: | doable... mmm okay |
| [22:48:57] | clever: | couldnt you just use telnet control to hit page down every 30 seconds? |
| [22:49:40] | iamlindoro: | There are lots of ways to hack it, none of them particularly clean |
| [22:49:49] | iamlindoro: | but since it's a hack idea to begin with it's sort of a moot point |
| [22:50:18] | NewBuntu81: | pipe the data to PowerPoint and have it auto flip the page every minute? I dunno |
| [22:50:42] | NewBuntu81: | Instead of auto scroll, maybe just "page flipping"...like the Weather guide does |
| [22:51:09] | sphery: | wagnerrp: but is the milestone correct... it fixed a bug before 0.25, but the bug didn't exist in 0.24, so was it really "fixed for 0.25"? :) |
| [22:51:29] | ** sphery leaves that question for the philosophers ** | |
| [22:51:51] | iamlindoro: | Ah, the old "If a tree falls in the forest and the forest burns down, did it really fall" question |
| [22:51:54] | sphery: | If a bug falls in a development branch and no one hears it... |
| [22:51:58] | sphery: | heh |
| [22:52:30] | sphery: | I even checked the GNU philosphy page, and it didn't even touch on the matter |
| [22:52:43] | sphery: | http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/ |
| [22:56:29] | NewBuntu81: | I never heard the version that the forrest burns down, LOL. Wow...was it arson? |
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| [22:59:58] | NewBuntu81: | Is anyone using Fedora 14 and got Mythweb to work correctly? I'm showing a blank page. Read and reread the documentation AND various blogs, still not getting results. |
| [23:00:12] | NewBuntu81: | (Yes, It's NewBuntu using Fedora again) hahaha |
| [23:03:35] | TheWarden: | Thanks guys take care. |
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| [23:41:27] | wagnerrp: | my package spam is getting better, theyre actually sending text in the email now |
| [23:41:39] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [23:41:51] | wagnerrp: | 'The parcel was send your home address. And it will arrice within 7 bussness day.' |
| [23:42:01] | wagnerrp: | i didnt say it was english, but it is text |
| [23:42:02] | Beirdo: | arrice.. nice |
| [23:42:24] | Beirdo: | it must be arriving via lowered honda |
| [23:43:55] | wagnerrp: | no, were that the case, it would be a parcer |
| [23:44:10] | Beirdo: | hehehe |
| [23:44:17] | NewBuntu81: | "lowered" honda? |
| [23:44:31] | Beirdo: | hes |
| [23:44:34] | Beirdo: | yes even |
| [23:44:58] | NewBuntu81: | as in a civic or such that's been lowered, probably with annoying glass packs to be loud? |
| [23:45:04] | wagnerrp: | as in, its scraping the ground |
| [23:45:18] | Beirdo: | as in, gets high-centered on a speed bump |
| [23:45:24] | NewBuntu81: | lmao |
| [23:45:33] | wagnerrp: | i saw a toyota pickup that was so low, it got caught on the crest of a hill |
| [23:45:40] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [23:45:50] | wagnerrp: | they were stopped at a light, and couldnt get enough traction to get going again |
| [23:45:50] | NewBuntu81: | yea i'm not a fan of those, nor the non-stock harley mufflers |
| [23:46:06] | NewBuntu81: | it makes me think of that southpark episode with the bikers...LMAO |
| [23:46:07] | wagnerrp: | the two people in the bed had to get out and push |
| [23:46:30] | wagnerrp: | NewBuntu81: harley should sue owners with non-stock mufflers |
| [23:46:58] | NewBuntu81: | i agree. it's annoying. i'd like the township police to at least enforce the noise laws.. |
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| [23:47:10] | momelod: | greetings channel. |
| [23:47:21] | wagnerrp: | NewBuntu81: its got nothing to do with being annoying |
| [23:47:28] | momelod: | i can't get mythnews to play video: http://pastebin.com/hZtdrFeL |
| [23:47:41] | wagnerrp: | do you realize how much time they spend in an anechoic chamber to get those things to sound just right |
| [23:48:27] | wagnerrp: | theres thousands of hours spent tweaking the shape, volume, and baffling to get the right harmonics out of it |
| [23:48:47] | NewBuntu81: | I've now disabled selinux...arghhh, cmon apache... |
| [23:48:57] | Beirdo: | so almost all of my kegerator parts (except the backordered ones) are "Picked ready to pack" |
| [23:48:57] | NewBuntu81: | commented out various lines |
| [23:49:06] | Beirdo: | just send them! |
| [23:49:13] | NewBuntu81: | kegerator! hahaha |
| [23:49:31] | wagnerrp: | ? |
| [23:49:35] | NewBuntu81: | my dad had one i the garage in an old fridge |
| [23:49:43] | NewBuntu81: | i=in |
| [23:50:26] | Beirdo: | and the hoses... are in Kansas on their way here |
| [23:50:55] | Beirdo: | from Buffalo, NY. hehe |
| [23:50:57] | Beirdo: | anyways. |
| [23:52:08] | sphery: | better than if there were in Kansas on their way there, from Portland |
| [23:52:29] | Beirdo: | that would be typical of UPS/Fedex though |
| [23:52:34] | sphery: | heh |
| [23:54:25] | NewBuntu81: | hehehe, radio commercial for Intercourse (PA) |
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