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[00:04:30] | wagnerrp: | sphery: are you saying get rid of QUERY_RECORDINGS all together? |
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[00:10:15] | sphery: | wagnerrp: yeah, was considering it... not used within mythtv code--only used by bindings |
[00:10:32] | wagnerrp: | and mythweb |
[00:10:36] | wagnerrp: | what does the frontend use? |
[00:10:41] | sphery: | the function that loads programs will still exist and be used by mythxml... |
[00:10:45] | sphery: | ah, forgot to check mythweb |
[00:11:20] | sphery: | ah, yeah, nvm... there are some usages |
[00:13:24] | wagnerrp: | any suggestion on where i can find a good CA database? |
[00:13:36] | wagnerrp: | seems im feeding a bad one to postfix |
[00:13:43] | wagnerrp: | so its not accepting gmail's cert |
[00:13:48] | wagnerrp: | and refusing to relay through |
[00:17:18] | sphery: | wagnerrp: http://www.openssl.org/support/faq.html#USER16 , but the script they link no longer works... I hacked it to make it work, but haven't actually made my apps start using the new bundle |
[00:17:31] | sphery: | doesn't take much to hack it |
[00:17:55] | wagnerrp: | well i think i pulled the one i need off geotrust |
[00:17:59] | wagnerrp: | lets see if this works... |
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[00:19:43] | wagnerrp: | untrusted issuer.... |
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[00:22:04] | wagnerrp: | what is the cvs address supposed to be? |
[00:22:53] | wagnerrp: | surely not [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
[00:23:29] | wagnerrp: | kormoc: you still in or have you left? |
[00:23:37] | kormoc: | still here |
[00:24:16] | wagnerrp: | have you actually tried our 0.24 ebuilds? |
[00:24:53] | kormoc: | nope |
[00:25:04] | kormoc: | other people claim to be running them tho |
[00:25:46] | wagnerrp: | http://www.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/ . . . /311702.html |
[00:26:01] | wagnerrp: | could we just replace the normal '/' in sed with '#' or something? |
[00:26:18] | wagnerrp: | i dont know if portage runs sed directly, or if it has its own sed-like command |
[00:27:25] | kormoc: | well, it works in 0.25, so we should have to just copy that line over from 0.25 to 0.24 |
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[00:28:26] | mtrax: | hi, I've been getting a few segfaults lately for the 24-fixes, but I dont have a backtrace should I still report it? |
[00:28:37] | wagnerrp: | it works in 0.25 because 0.25 is branch 'master' |
[00:28:46] | wagnerrp: | seems the sed line is choking on 'fixes/0.24' |
[00:29:08] | wagnerrp: | mtrax: is mythtv segfaulting? or is X terminating? |
[00:29:20] | mtrax: | mythfrontend[5682]: segfault at 400170cc ip 08282eb4 sp 9ec1aeec error 4 in myth frontend[8281000+2000] |
[00:29:32] | mtrax: | mythfrontend terminates back to X |
[00:29:35] | wagnerrp: | find your core file |
[00:29:56] | wagnerrp: | if you cant find one, 'man ulimit' to figure out how to enable core files |
[00:30:07] | wagnerrp: | wait until it crashes again, and open the core file in gdb to make a backtrace |
[00:30:45] | wagnerrp: | if not that, we would at the very least need a '-v all' to try to narrow down what its doing |
[00:31:02] | wagnerrp: | but debugging segfaults without a backtrace can be very difficult |
[00:32:00] | mtrax: | todate I haven't had any just in the last few weeks I've noticed it |
[00:32:57] | mtrax: | no man file for ulimit on my F13 system |
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[00:48:19] | kormoc: | wagnerrp, ahh! that makes sense |
[00:48:53] | wagnerrp: | back to the original question, would using '#' instead of '/' in the sed argument work with that version of sed? |
[00:49:15] | kormoc: | I'm pretty sure it won't, but only one way to tell |
[00:50:56] | ** Beirdo plays some Queen. ** | |
[00:51:21] | Beirdo: | another one bites the dust... |
[00:51:32] | ** wagnerrp plays some Massive Attack ** | |
[00:51:51] | wagnerrp: | dissolved girl would become dust... right? |
[00:52:10] | Beirdo: | hehe |
[00:53:52] | kormoc: | Ashes to Ashes... Dust to Dust... |
[00:53:53] | Beirdo: | all these years later, and I still like this song |
[00:54:01] | kormoc: | People to... People? |
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[00:54:36] | mtrax: | any idea where the core files would be saved? |
[00:54:52] | kormoc: | cwd |
[00:55:17] | Beirdo: | people are people? |
[00:55:24] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: whats not to love? http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6812654184516506185# |
[00:55:32] | awalls: | peop |
[00:55:34] | wagnerrp: | millions of people? |
[00:55:41] | kormoc: | People for me? |
[00:56:01] | wagnerrp: | people come in a can |
[00:56:15] | kormoc: | They were put there by a man |
[00:56:22] | Beirdo: | I saw this commercial on TV once. |
[00:56:30] | Beirdo: | sooo bad |
[00:56:36] | awalls: | in a factory downtown |
[00:56:39] | Beirdo: | I still laughed pretty hard though |
[00:56:47] | wagnerrp: | if i had my little way, id eat people every day |
[00:57:17] | awalls: | nature's candy in a.. |
[00:57:51] | awalls: | <mumble> or pie. |
[00:59:16] | Beirdo: | wagnerrp: that commercial is proof that not all commercials are pointless crap.. Some are funny crap :) |
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[01:00:41] | NewBuntu81: | nice song, wagnerrp |
[01:02:38] | JEDIDIAH___: | canned soylent green? |
[01:03:59] | wagnerrp: | yes, canned by the president of the united states |
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[01:05:48] | ** Beirdo wants to bugger off ** | |
[01:06:46] | kormoc: | Lump sat alone in a buggy marsh, totally motionless except for her heart... |
[01:06:53] | Beirdo: | gotta get to Lowes and buy another hole saw to abuse |
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[01:07:17] | Beirdo: | 1951 steel >> crappy hole saw |
[01:07:26] | sphery: | Beirdo: go for diamond-tipped |
[01:07:33] | Beirdo: | heh |
[01:07:49] | Beirdo: | I might get carbide dust tipped |
[01:07:55] | Beirdo: | I only need one more hole |
[01:08:00] | sphery: | you can get some good ones at Jared, The Galleria of Jewelry |
[01:08:04] | Beirdo: | haha |
[01:08:17] | Beirdo: | I will never darken their door |
[01:08:24] | sphery: | heh |
[01:08:39] | sphery: | then you won't have people saying, "He went to Jared" |
[01:08:44] | Beirdo: | whew |
[01:08:57] | ** sphery shouldn't admit to knowing those commercials... MythTV commercial detection and all... ** | |
[01:08:59] | Beirdo: | "he bought into the ad campaign" |
[01:09:03] | sphery: | heh |
[01:09:17] | Beirdo: | besides, diamonds are boring |
[01:09:35] | Beirdo: | I'd rather see sapphires or emeralds |
[01:09:51] | sphery: | maybe you can find an adamantium hole saw |
[01:10:01] | Beirdo: | less likely to have funded a war in Africa too |
[01:10:10] | sphery: | true |
[01:10:31] | sphery: | Leo taught us all about those blood diamonds |
[01:10:42] | Beirdo: | heh |
[01:10:45] | Beirdo: | yeah. |
[01:11:09] | sphery: | I have to decide which mouse to use with this computer... |
[01:11:20] | Beirdo: | the one that squeaks loudest |
[01:11:39] | sphery: | old (but nicer, 6-button) laptop mouse or new 4-button mouse |
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[01:12:22] | sphery: | hmmm... 7-button laptop mouse |
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[01:12:23] | mtrax: | ok got core file for trying to watch DVD.. but this isn't my initial problem. |
[01:12:33] | mtrax: | but just the same. |
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[01:13:09] | Beirdo: | OK, enough of this. I'm going to Lowes |
[01:13:21] | Beirdo: | one more hole saw... and a file, please. |
[01:13:30] | sphery: | good luck |
[01:13:37] | Beirdo: | danke |
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[01:27:06] | judget: | I know that my ip addresses are correct. What else can cause the MythTV is using all inputs but there are no active recordings? |
[01:28:21] | kormoc: | a weird state that restarting the backend will fix? |
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[01:36:47] | judget: | unfortunately no kormoc |
[01:38:22] | judget: | i am thionking that the tuner is for some reason not recording a stream |
[01:38:53] | judget: | since when u wtach tv we are actually watching it after it has been recorded right |
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[02:01:17] | kubes1: | hello, can one change the format that the myth backend stores it video files? I was looking to use h.264. |
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[02:02:56] | wagnerrp: | yes |
[02:03:27] | wagnerrp: | a. move to europe and record broadcast h264 |
[02:03:38] | wagnerrp: | b. buy an HDPVR and record locally compressed h264 |
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[02:06:41] | kubes1: | Thanks. So content is always stored in its received as format? And transcoded on playback? |
[02:06:54] | Unhelpful: | can't mythtranscode convert recordings offline? |
[02:07:24] | wagnerrp: | why would you transcode on playback? you DECODE on playback |
[02:07:34] | wagnerrp: | mythtranscode can transcode things at a later time |
[02:07:40] | wagnerrp: | but it is not capable of h264 |
[02:08:02] | wagnerrp: | and unless youre using an old framegrabber, mythtv will record content exactly as it receives it from the tuner/capture card |
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[02:09:35] | ** Unhelpful could swear there's a script around for mencoder or ffmpeg transcode ** | |
[02:09:56] | wagnerrp: | nuvexport, but that transcodes for export, not in place |
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[02:10:07] | kubes1: | Was looking at using a Roku of really similar like some some of these other SOC video systems. They seem to only decode h264 |
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[02:39:53] | JEDIDIAH___: | Yes. The $100 media players seem to all have similar limitations. |
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[02:48:09] | Beirdo: | OMG |
[02:49:46] | Beirdo: | use the correct tool, and the job is infinitely easier |
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[02:52:00] | [R]: | that's what she said |
[02:52:02] | [R]: | HAHA |
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[03:43:31] | adub: | did a recent update fix hdmi audio for some |
[03:43:42] | adub: | update |
[03:44:00] | adub: | i added .24 updates for mythbuntu and magically again hdmi audio works |
[03:44:11] | [R]: | hdmi audio has been working forever for me |
[03:44:15] | adub: | oh |
[03:44:22] | adub: | it worked for me a while back then stopped working |
[03:44:24] | adub: | now it works again |
[03:44:32] | adub: | i just took some updates |
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[03:53:39] | sphery: | Annoyingly effective marketing... CBS has been running a plate just before shows that just says, "Chaos is Coming." I had no idea what it meant, but it made me look it up and find out about their upcoming new series, Chaos, premiering on Apr 1. |
[03:56:23] | wagnerrp: | its a trap |
[03:57:00] | [R]: | the british version of the office is awful |
[03:57:06] | [R]: | i can't understand like half the stuff the yare saying |
[03:57:17] | wagnerrp: | youre going to tune in, and get reruns of the retarded race |
[04:00:11] | [R]: | wtf |
[04:00:15] | [R]: | do british people really talk like this? |
[04:00:50] | wagnerrp: | crikey! |
[04:01:16] | [R]: | the us office stole this show like word for word |
[04:01:17] | [R]: | its crazy |
[04:01:47] | wagnerrp: | yeah, pretty much |
[04:02:02] | wagnerrp: | i wonder how much different life on mars was |
[04:02:26] | [R]: | was? |
[04:02:41] | wagnerrp: | ? |
[04:02:46] | [R]: | huh? |
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[04:03:36] | wagnerrp: | life on mars, its a tv show |
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[04:04:04] | [R]: | oh |
[04:04:05] | [R]: | lol |
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[04:11:45] | iamlindoro: | life on mars was very different |
[04:12:28] | iamlindoro: | he was in the ICU and woke up in the last episode, but couldn't deal with being back in "present day" so jumped off a building at the end trying to get back to his coma |
[04:12:41] | iamlindoro: | oh, and spoiler alert |
[04:12:49] | wagnerrp: | we dont speak of the abysmal endings of that show in here |
[04:13:02] | iamlindoro: | Yeah, the above was the UK version |
[04:13:03] | wagnerrp: | the last episode was only 28 minutes long |
[04:13:38] | iamlindoro: | and the plots were basically entirely different too... only the premise was sort of the same |
[04:14:30] | wagnerrp: | surely the british version didnt have someone reciting Vanilla Ice to the Black Panthers |
[04:14:47] | iamlindoro: | no ;) |
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[04:16:01] | wagnerrp: | thats how i roll |
[04:17:47] | iamlindoro: | UK series had a spin-off too |
[04:17:58] | iamlindoro: | set in the early 80s |
[04:18:14] | iamlindoro: | and IIRC at the end the retconned the flashback world into purgatory |
[04:18:19] | wagnerrp: | WTF |
[04:18:35] | wagnerrp: | how do you have a spinoff of a show where the old real character killed themselves at the end |
[04:18:56] | adub: | wagnerrp check your hdmi audio bro |
[04:18:59] | iamlindoro: | with a new character entirely set in the same flashback world |
[04:19:20] | wagnerrp: | i dont use hdmi audio |
[04:19:30] | adub: | i know you said you took an update and it stopped |
[04:19:34] | adub: | are you .24 |
[04:19:41] | ** kormoc blinks at adub ** | |
[04:19:49] | [R]: | i'm not your bro, pal |
[04:19:54] | wagnerrp: | i did a kernel, alsa, and a whole bunch of other crap update... and it stopped |
[04:20:06] | adub: | try it again |
[04:20:25] | adub: | well what os |
[04:20:29] | wagnerrp: | im perfectly content with analog |
[04:20:44] | wagnerrp: | considering im sending it to a tv with a pair of tinny 10W speakers |
[04:21:10] | [R]: | i'm so glad i got full 5.1 digital passthrough working on my tv |
[04:21:59] | iamlindoro: | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUfts9dfZ9I&feature=related |
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[04:22:38] | wagnerrp: | yeah, i was going to respond that... but then i realized neither bro nor pal were parts of the bit |
[04:22:44] | [R]: | haha |
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[05:07:44] | NewBuntu81: | Hi All. Quick question. I'm trying to set up Mythweb using apache2 (httpd). I got a page to show in the browser. However, I cannot get the mythweb contents to show. Any hints? |
[05:08:00] | NewBuntu81: | I'm following instructions at http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/User_Manual:Initial_Installation |
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[05:09:36] | tgm4883: | sphery, you win, i'm changing all of my recordings to any time any channel |
[05:10:11] | tgm4883: | i just missed a crapton of recordings for what appears to be no apparent reason |
[05:17:01] | Beirdo: | metric crapton? |
[05:23:25] | tgm4883: | Beirdo, Nope, i'm pretty sure it's imperial |
[05:26:15] | Beirdo: | hehe :) |
[05:40:19] | clgshaft: | hey guys |
[05:40:42] | clgshaft: | why would my lirc give back a command that my device does not support sending? |
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[06:34:57] | clgshaft: | any lirc experts here? |
[06:35:05] | clgshaft: | dont know how to fix this |
[06:35:08] | clgshaft: | [root@mythtvmain ~]# irsend SEND_ONCE DCT700 info |
[06:35:09] | clgshaft: | irsend: command failed: SEND_ONCE DCT700 info |
[06:35:09] | clgshaft: | irsend: hardware does not support sending |
[06:35:09] | clgshaft: | [root@mythtvmain ~]# |
[06:35:58] | Beirdo: | stop trying to send out a receiver |
[06:36:28] | clgshaft: | ?? |
[06:38:01] | clgshaft: | im sending out a receiver? |
[06:38:15] | Beirdo: | that's what the error seems to be indicating |
[06:38:48] | clgshaft: | ok, so what should i send? |
[06:39:08] | clgshaft: | im trying to test lirc |
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[06:43:34] | Beirdo: | I think you may wanna read lirc docs |
[06:43:53] | Beirdo: | we all stumbled through it at one point. |
[06:46:41] | justinh: | IR sending is something still fairly new to me too, but I figured it out |
[06:47:31] | justinh: | that's one of the things with lirc docs – they're not so good at pointing out some stuff. Dots have to be joined by users |
[06:47:38] | clgshaft: | i have been reading and trying for about 5 hours |
[06:48:23] | justinh: | the irsend command has a device option IIRC |
[06:48:56] | clgshaft: | ok |
[06:48:57] | justinh: | oh and if you've not configured lirc to allow transmission you'll get the error about sending not being supported |
[06:49:15] | clgshaft: | how to i allow transmission?> |
[06:50:06] | justinh: | by having suitable parameters configured in your lircd.conf file. of course |
[06:50:46] | clgshaft: | umm ok, i have my stb info in there |
[06:51:20] | clgshaft: | is that wrong? |
[06:51:30] | justinh: | not necessarily |
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[06:52:24] | justinh: | oh yeah hardware.conf has a part to play too |
[06:54:02] | justinh: | are you running ubuntu perchance? |
[06:54:14] | justinh: | if you are it has a wizard to help you |
[06:54:39] | clgshaft: | fedora |
[06:55:11] | clgshaft: | if i am using a mce, should lircd.conf have the mceusb or my dct2000? |
[06:56:06] | justinh: | the remote codes for everything you want to be able to send or receive have to be in lircd.conf |
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[06:56:23] | clgshaft: | ok, i have those in there |
[06:56:50] | justinh: | but if your hardware.conf file isn't properly set up, sending won't work |
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[06:57:28] | clgshaft: | i set that up too |
[06:57:42] | justinh: | with TRANSMITTER lines? |
[06:57:54] | justinh: | e.g. TRANSMITTER="Serial Port (UART)" ?? |
[06:58:03] | clgshaft: | and put include "hardware.conf" in lircd.conf after end remote |
[06:58:04] | justinh: | TRANSMITTER_MODULES="lirc_dev lirc_serial" etc ? |
[06:58:21] | justinh: | no, you don't include hardware.conf in lircd.conf |
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[06:59:50] | justinh: | erm.. why isn't hardware.conf mentioned in the lirc docs? |
[07:00:13] | clgshaft: | http://pastebin.com/j8qkvEsJ |
[07:00:32] | clgshaft: | thats the hardware.conf |
[07:00:46] | [R]: | becaue hardware.conf is a debian/ubuntu bastardization |
[07:00:55] | justinh: | [R]: that figures |
[07:00:58] | [R]: | lol |
[07:01:28] | justinh: | so where does the info ubuntu/debian keeps in hardware.conf live in real life? |
[07:01:45] | [R]: | its just used in the init script |
[07:01:54] | [R]: | how to start lirc, what modules to load, and what params to pass it |
[07:02:02] | [R]: | dpkg-reconfigure will rewrite it |
[07:02:02] | Beirdo: | I want beer. Why can't my stuff be here already? |
[07:02:32] | justinh: | [R]: ahh |
[07:02:44] | justinh: | [R]: that's a bit nasty |
[07:03:08] | justinh: | although it's probably just there to make life easier for users without rewriting lirc |
[07:03:34] | clgshaft: | anyway to start over? erase everything i did? |
[07:03:49] | justinh: | clgshaft: you don't really have to |
[07:04:11] | justinh: | clgshaft: if lircd is running, stop it |
[07:04:11] | clgshaft: | ok, well i cant find an answers |
[07:04:41] | clgshaft: | stopped |
[07:04:46] | justinh: | clgshaft: I can't run lirc on my backend box, cos its serial port is busy looking after the UPS – and my frontend isn't switched on so I can't look at that either |
[07:06:27] | justinh: | clgshaft: it's likely just a matter of running lircd with the right parameters – maybe even rebuilding it if you built it from source |
[07:06:50] | clgshaft: | i dont know how i built it |
[07:07:00] | justinh: | how did you install it? |
[07:07:07] | clgshaft: | lirc? |
[07:07:11] | justinh: | yes |
[07:07:14] | clgshaft: | yum install lirc |
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[07:09:40] | justinh: | maybe you just need to run lircd to tell it to use a transmitter as well as a receiver |
[07:09:54] | clgshaft: | ok how do you do that? |
[07:10:13] | justinh: | I suspect by editing the script which runs lirc |
[07:10:31] | clgshaft: | ok |
[07:10:38] | justinh: | or you can test it by doing it from the commandline first |
[07:10:38] | clgshaft: | ill keep researching |
[07:11:13] | clgshaft: | ive tried everything |
[07:12:06] | clgshaft: | thanks |
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[07:14:29] | justinh: | LOL even this webpage I found about configuring lirc on fedora for ir blasting goes on about rebooting after making config file changes. SIGH |
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[07:15:05] | justinh: | hahahahaha AND mysql warnings generated by the server |
[07:17:10] | clever: | :( |
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[07:19:57] | justinh: | heck even for modprobe.conf changes a user should really only need to unload the module & reload it |
[07:20:25] | justinh: | or maybe log out & back in again for some kinds of changes.. but surely not reboot |
[07:21:43] | clever: | reboot is only needed if the hardware is severely confused or the module is linked into the kernel |
[07:22:26] | justinh: | aye but building lirc into the kernel is umm... is that even allowed? lol |
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[08:46:52] | Beirdo: | bed |
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[09:03:13] | rooaus: | testing |
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[10:07:19] | s0126h: | what hardware does mythtv work with |
[10:16:31] | AndyCap: | s0126h: most hardware that works with linux. What type of hardware are you thinking of? |
[10:31:54] | hashbang: | morning, all! |
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[12:01:22] | wagnerrp: | !url tuners |
[12:01:23] | MythLogBot: | tuners: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hardwar . . . _Information |
[12:01:28] | wagnerrp: | s0126h; ^^^^ |
[12:13:19] | veehexx: | whats the deal with resume from suspend and mythbackend process? it seems to be crashing my machine – do i need todo something specific to enter suspend/wakeup? |
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[12:53:27] | wagnerrp: | sphery: finally, a worthwhile use for 3D displays |
[12:53:36] | wagnerrp: | full screen multiplayer |
[12:53:57] | wagnerrp: | each user gets their own angle, rather than split-screen |
[12:54:47] | veehexx: | so your going to need polarizing layer on the tv too? |
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[13:00:41] | justinh: | hmm nokia have got rid of Qt. Boo |
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[13:31:23] | skd5aner: | justinh: nokia did not get rid of Qt, they just sold off the licensing aspect of it |
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[14:19:27] | sphery: | wagnerrp: much better than the 3d show idea |
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[14:37:34] | JEDIDIAH___: | given what has been going on at nokia, perhaps "getting rid of" qt is for the best. |
[14:39:02] | sphery: | Oneiric Ocelot... Was that a typo? They must have meant Ornery--what with them dropping GNOME for Unity and dropping X for Wayland. |
[14:39:44] | JEDIDIAH___: | no typo. it means dreamy or dreamlike or something. |
[14:39:52] | sphery: | JEDIDIAH___: agreed... I think Qt will be fine with less (no?) Nokia involvement. |
[14:40:20] | skd5aner: | JEDIDIAH___: I would say that's not the best of advice – unless you have a suggestion on exactly what to forklift in it's place |
[14:40:47] | JEDIDIAH___: | nokia has already decided on their "forklift" |
[14:41:19] | sphery: | skd5aner: KDE will keep working on Qt, regardless of what happens at nokia |
[14:41:24] | JEDIDIAH___: | at least they don't seem to be going Oracle on us. |
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[16:04:40] | s0126h: | what hardware does mythtv work with |
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[16:07:34] | JEDIDIAH___: | what kind of hardware are you interested in buying? |
[16:08:22] | uW: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Category:Hardware |
[16:18:09] | hashbang: | s0126h: you keep asking, but you never tell us what category of hardware you're asking about. |
[16:20:20] | uW: | i thought i saw that question twice |
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[16:37:57] | Newsome: | Hi there....anyone here availble to answer a newbie question? |
[16:42:38] | veehexx: | probably not, but try me... :) |
[16:44:54] | jamesd_laptop: | yes you have to connect the antena cable to the tuner device and the system does require the power plug to be connected to power |
[16:44:57] | Newsome: | I have been using myth for OTA HD for about two years. I am investigating the possibility of satellite through myth w/o a set top box |
[16:45:07] | Newsome: | :) |
[16:45:54] | Newsome: | Free-to-air satellite is still available in the US... and some of it is DVB-S...if it is unencrypted, can myth tune it in with the right card. HVR-2200 maybe |
[16:46:18] | Newsome: | or is there a difference between US DVB and European DVB? |
[16:47:13] | veehexx: | US sat afaik is DVB-S2, UK is DVB-S. |
[16:47:30] | Newsome: | http://www.sathint.com/amc-1?list=transponders&sort=band |
[16:47:46] | Newsome: | look at frequency 3915 H |
[16:47:56] | veehexx: | and yes, it'll work. im using a TBS 6981 dual-sat tuner for freeSAT in the UK. |
[16:48:10] | Newsome: | vs 3720 H |
[16:48:24] | Newsome: | so DVB-s is DVB-s no matter where you are. |
[16:48:31] | veehexx: | yep. |
[16:48:52] | veehexx: | else they'd be no point in having the DVB-S spec :) |
[16:49:06] | veehexx: | although S2 and S are 2 completely different systems. |
[16:49:18] | veehexx: | so you need to ensure the card you buy has DVB-S support. |
[16:49:20] | Newsome: | I know that... |
[16:49:27] | Newsome: | S2 seems to be more HD stuff |
[16:49:39] | veehexx: | might be in the US. |
[16:49:51] | veehexx: | BBC HD is in S format. |
[16:49:52] | Newsome: | the hard part it seems is finding DVB-S cards in the US. |
[16:49:58] | Newsome: | gotcha |
[16:50:12] | veehexx: | hold on, i thought you were in the UK? |
[16:50:21] | Newsome: | I am in the US. |
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[16:50:37] | Newsome: | no DVB-T or DVB-C but we have DVB-2 and S2 |
[16:50:42] | veehexx: | oh, sorry – not sure why i thought you were UK. |
[16:50:55] | Newsome: | im sorry....DVB-s and DVB-S2 |
[16:51:01] | veehexx: | the TBS (turbosight) stuff seems very obtainable in the US. |
[16:51:08] | veehexx: | was a bugger to find in the UK. |
[16:51:29] | veehexx: | http://www.tbsdtv.com/ for their hardware. im using the 6981 card. |
[16:51:40] | veehexx: | anwyay, gtg, home time :) |
[16:51:48] | Chat0491: | hi all |
[16:51:49] | Newsome: | is there good linux support> |
[16:51:58] | Newsome: | by veehexx...thanks for your help |
[16:52:09] | veehexx: | tbs – yes. one of the reasons i bought it. |
[16:52:13] | veehexx: | linux and windows support |
[16:52:16] | wagnerrp: | !url tuners |
[16:52:16] | MythLogBot: | tuners: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hardwar . . . _Information |
[16:52:54] | Newsome: | sweet...thanks |
[16:53:14] | Chat0491: | hi there any one want to chat |
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[16:54:46] | melnie: | hey all |
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[16:55:25] | Newsome: | I have an old dual-LNB dish hanging off my deck...(don't remember the provider) but with the correct card, and the right anlges, I should be able to receive an unencrypted DVB-S signal to my computer. |
[16:55:27] | Newsome: | Yes? |
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[16:58:07] | wagnerrp: | Newsome: if you point it the right direction |
[16:58:11] | wagnerrp: | http://lyngsat.com |
[16:59:02] | Newsome: | that is what I meant by the right angles...I haven't verified coverage for my area but it is a North American sat |
[16:59:38] | wagnerrp: | if youre in NA, your access to unencrypted DVB-S with a mini-dish almost nil |
[16:59:48] | s0126h: | how do i tell what digital signal my cable company use |
[17:00:00] | Newsome: | are you in the US? |
[17:00:04] | s0126h: | canada |
[17:00:27] | Newsome: | then I don't know...in the US, I think they all use QAM |
[17:00:41] | Newsome: | most ATSC tuners are QAM as well |
[17:00:50] | Newsome: | at least that is what I found |
[17:00:53] | wagnerrp: | s0126h: http://www.silicondust.com/support/channels |
[17:01:15] | kisak_: | I'm running mythtv 0.24-fixes and I'm getting backtraces in the log file from mythpreviewgen |
[17:01:28] | kisak_: | *** glibc detected *** /usr/bin/mythpreviewgen: free(): invalid next size (normal): 0x0000000000ae4330 *** |
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[17:01:59] | kisak_: | the other relevent line appears to be sh: line 1: 10832 Aborted /usr/bin/mythpreviewgen --size 0x0 --chanid 3194 --starttime 20110307013000 > /dev/null |
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[17:05:41] | sphery: | kisak_: we need real backtraces to fix problems. http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Debugging |
[17:05:56] | kisak_: | ok |
[17:06:19] | wagnerrp: | if your segfault made a core dump, you can use that to make a backtrace |
[17:06:30] | wagnerrp: | otherwise, just run that command directly through the debugger |
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[17:08:45] | kisak_: | http://pastebin.com/bq9sseY1 is this what you're looking for? |
[17:09:19] | Newsome: | wagnerrp...thanks for the info. I found a coverage map for the sat that I am looking at and i have solid coverage. the link http://lyngsat.com wouldn't load on my computer but I found it here...http://www.satbeams.com/footprints?beam=5439 |
[17:09:36] | Newsome: | It looks like it may actually work. Thanks again. |
[17:09:58] | wagnerrp: | http://www.lyngsat.com ... works fine here |
[17:13:28] | Newsome: | the earlier link was missing the www....i didn;t even think about trying it. thanks. Gotta run and get back to work. |
[17:13:36] | Newsome: | thanks again for all your help |
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[17:20:28] | sphery: | kisak_: no, that's a useless glibc "backtrace", not a real backtrace... See the page I linked and follow the instructions (for core file or for "interactive") |
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[17:21:01] | wagnerrp: | we didnt write glibc, so we cant really fix anything that goes wrong in glibc |
[17:21:17] | wagnerrp: | the only things we can fix are the problems in our code that resulted in the fault in glibc |
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[17:21:46] | wagnerrp: | the full backtrace, traces the program path all the way back out from the fault to the start of that thread |
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[17:39:24] | sphery: | It's official. I love having the MythWeb protocol version in the mythtv directory structure (instead of in the mythweb repo (or mythplugins, as before)). Makes it much easier to update. |
[17:39:42] | sphery: | PHP bindings are making a believer out of me |
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[19:38:12] | Beirdo: | hehe |
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[20:17:23] | skd5aner: | haven't updated nvidia driver in a while – what's the current recommended version? |
[20:17:48] | wagnerrp: | 256, or a later blend of 260 |
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[20:21:21] | skd5aner: | looks like I'm running 256.44 |
[20:21:35] | skd5aner: | when do you mean "blend" of 260? |
[20:21:49] | wagnerrp: | earlier versions had some significant problems |
[20:22:15] | skd5aner: | yea, I remember seeing that – which is why I've steared clear until things got a bit more stable |
[20:23:25] | wagnerrp: | looks like ive been running... 270 for the past month? |
[20:23:41] | wagnerrp: | pulled in by an update at the end of january |
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[20:24:05] | skd5aner: | you use your distro's packaged nvidia drivers or compile from their script? |
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[20:24:23] | wagnerrp: | gentoo, its all compiled |
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[20:25:03] | skd5aner: | ah, I always just run the install script directly from nvidia |
[20:25:37] | wagnerrp: | thats really all gentoo does |
[20:25:49] | wagnerrp: | just with a wrapper so it knows where stuff it installed goes |
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[20:31:06] | clgshaft: | hey guys, could someone point me in the direction of a good lirc ir blaster guide. Mine is saying it doesn't allow sending. Tried wiki and ubuntu guides. Using fedora 14 and mce receiver/ir blaster. Thanks |
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[20:34:05] | ** wagnerrp wonders when someone is going to complain about themes not scaling properly for their 21:9 display ** | |
[20:46:41] | ** Beirdo gives pandora an evil look. get bent with the ads! ** | |
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[20:47:57] | Beirdo: | wagnerrp: hehe. 21:9?! |
[20:48:19] | kormoc: | Beirdo, I like wide faces you insensitive clod! |
[20:48:26] | Beirdo: | heheh |
[20:48:42] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: yeah... phillips has had wide format TVs for a couple years now |
[20:49:10] | Beirdo: | what do ya do with a drunken sailor... |
[20:50:44] | wagnerrp: | throw 'em in the brig? |
[20:51:15] | Beirdo: | hehe. shave his belly with a rusty razor. |
[20:51:15] | GreyFoxx: | early in the morning |
[20:51:16] | GreyFoxx: | ;) |
[20:51:42] | Beirdo: | GreyFoxx: I'm in a maritime music mood :) |
[20:51:50] | GreyFoxx: | I wish I was in sherbrooke now! |
[20:51:53] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
[20:52:13] | Beirdo: | hehe :) |
[20:52:33] | GreyFoxx: | I rememberlast summer, the tallships were in Halifax harbour and there were thousands of tourists on the waterfront |
[20:52:46] | Beirdo: | nice. :) |
[20:52:57] | GreyFoxx: | and out of nowwhere somedude with aguitar begging for change started singing that sherbrooke song |
[20:53:05] | Beirdo: | hahaha |
[20:53:12] | Beirdo: | nice move :) |
[20:53:14] | GreyFoxx: | and it shocked the hell out of the all ther americans when almost every single Canadian there started singing it |
[20:53:32] | GreyFoxx: | they were looking around at us all as if it was some sort of flashmob hehe |
[20:54:08] | Beirdo: | hehe, especially in Nova Scotia, I would kinda expect it |
[20:54:13] | GreyFoxx: | yeah |
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[20:54:25] | GreyFoxx: | It was actually kind of awesome at the time :) |
[20:54:25] | Beirdo: | you guys have quite the heritage of celtic music, etc |
[20:54:36] | Beirdo: | and the Newfs too :) |
[20:55:23] | GreyFoxx: | yeah |
[20:55:55] | clever: | dangit, now i need to dig that cd out |
[20:56:32] | Beirdo: | yer welcome :) |
[20:56:37] | clever: | :P |
[20:56:47] | clever: | need to remember where the heck it went first |
[20:57:01] | GreyFoxx: | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl-CfQvz21Y |
[20:57:33] | GreyFoxx: | one of many versions of it, but close to what I usually hear :) |
[20:57:46] | Beirdo: | why anyone would WANT to be in Sherbrooke, I dunno IRL |
[20:57:53] | GreyFoxx: | hehe same ;) |
[20:58:33] | wagnerrp: | oh FFS |
[20:58:39] | Beirdo: | but singing that in Halifax harbour... priceless |
[20:58:47] | wagnerrp: | 'mythtv backend ported to nvidia's quad core arm' |
[20:58:52] | Beirdo: | hehe |
[20:58:58] | Beirdo: | "go for it, punk" |
[20:59:08] | GreyFoxx: | Beirdo: Yeah, it was awesome , a literlaly right after the fireworksstarted. IT was amazingly well timed :) |
[20:59:24] | Beirdo: | sorry I missed that :) |
[20:59:47] | wagnerrp: | 'the raw horsepower should be sufficient for a backend with storage' |
[21:00:09] | clever: | here it is, 'from kitchen to ceilidh' |
[21:00:21] | GreyFoxx: | Beirdo: Damn, now that I've listened to it I want to go to a pub :) |
[21:00:29] | clever: | looks like the cd came with a box of keiths |
[21:00:48] | Beirdo: | aye. this type of music is SO conducive to pint after pint. |
[21:03:20] | Beirdo: | the guy who wrote that died in wagnerrp's backyard. |
[21:04:01] | Beirdo: | a fire on Air Canada Flight 797 on the ground... 1983 |
[21:04:21] | GreyFoxx: | yeah I was just reading that. Crazy |
[21:04:31] | Beirdo: | at 33?! dang |
[21:04:40] | wagnerrp: | just reading that... 27 years ago |
[21:05:30] | GreyFoxx: | "reports published at the time said that a man of Rogers' height and build escaped the plane, but then turned and went back inside, apparently to assist in the rescue of others" |
[21:05:31] | Beirdo: | gonna have to get some of his LPs :) |
[21:05:36] | GreyFoxx: | good on him |
[21:05:52] | Beirdo: | yeah |
[21:06:48] | kormoc: | wagnerrp, yeah... it's the perfect backend! |
[21:07:34] | wagnerrp: | kormoc: would mysql/the_scheduler really take advantage of four cores? or is it more dependent on single threaded performance? |
[21:08:02] | Beirdo: | oooh, I like Northwest Passage too |
[21:09:21] | kormoc: | wagnerrp, it's pretty solidly single threaded |
[21:10:03] | kormoc: | mysql can use multiple cores, but we don't push it enough to get any benefit from them, nor can myisam really use them. |
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[21:14:08] | Beirdo: | but dual core would put mysql in one core, and the backend in the other, I would suppose |
[21:14:49] | kormoc: | Beirdo, won't matter. The backend is waiting for the mysql data before it can start processing |
[21:14:56] | Beirdo: | hehe, true |
[21:15:10] | Beirdo: | other threads can keep running though |
[21:15:17] | kormoc: | we could look into doing unbuffered result sets, but I don't know offhand if the qt lib supports them nor how much of a difference it'd make |
[21:15:29] | Beirdo: | yeah, dunno either |
[21:16:37] | kormoc: | sure, another core for other threads will help, but it won't speed up the scheduler by 2x (or 4x for 4 cores) |
[21:16:43] | Beirdo: | heck no |
[21:16:54] | Beirdo: | we only wish |
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[22:01:17] | wagnerrp: | sphery: i finally got one through! http://www.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/ . . . /311737.html |
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[22:02:38] | wagnerrp: | i think that one is worthy of your level of verbosity |
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[22:16:24] | sphery: | wagnerrp: I'll see if we can fix the spam filters... don't know why it let you send one through |
[22:16:39] | sphery: | (joking--great post, I was just enjoying reading it) |
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[22:20:02] | sphery: | very good post--and worth ever word |
[22:33:27] | wagnerrp: | i still cant get over the bit about the benchmarks |
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[22:33:58] | wagnerrp: | using heavily optimized gcc 4.4.1 for the ARMs, versus typical settings on GCC 3.4.6 for the Core 2 |
[22:35:58] | wagnerrp: | sphery: http://www.ilsistemista.net/index.php/hardwar . . . ml?showall=1 |
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[22:39:41] | sphery: | it's what they call "optimized marketing" |
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[22:42:01] | sphery: | heh, and that page says almost exactly what you said--and has the numbers to back it up |
[22:42:57] | wagnerrp: | (because thats what i read before posting the email) |
[22:43:27] | wagnerrp: | you can follow up with the link, i think if i do, ill get cut off by the spam filters |
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[22:44:09] | wagnerrp: | its just the same thing everyone has been saying all long |
[22:44:20] | wagnerrp: | the performance per watt of an ARM is very impressive |
[22:44:40] | wagnerrp: | but it simply doesnt compare with the single threaded or total throughput of the x86 architecture |
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[22:47:19] | sphery: | yep, and does nvidia even plan to release tegra video drivers? |
[22:47:42] | wagnerrp: | chutt might be able to answer that, i have no idea |
[22:49:00] | sphery: | even if they did, they would have to have vdpau to be of any use |
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[22:51:44] | wagnerrp: | well theres nothing stopping them from making a completely independent API for access, so long as its of similar quality to the existing driver/api, and not AMD's mess |
[22:51:59] | wagnerrp: | but it would probably be easier on all involved to just release as VDPAU |
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[22:52:53] | ** wagnerrp wonders who this Achim Hofmann intends to inform about the gentoo issue ** | |
[22:54:12] | kormoc: | wagnerrp, Gentoo@UbuntuProject.org of course |
[22:54:38] | wagnerrp: | kormoc: anyway, the '#' in the sed argument works |
[22:54:42] | wagnerrp: | tested it last night |
[22:54:44] | kormoc: | oh nice |
[22:54:57] | wagnerrp: | between qt and mythtv, my laptop was recompiling crap for about 20 hours |
[22:55:25] | wagnerrp: | i really need to set up distcc for that thing |
[22:56:52] | wagnerrp: | im putting together a commit, ill go ahead and update the build dates while im at it |
[22:57:02] | kormoc: | sounds good |
[23:00:47] | wagnerrp: | aww come on... |
[23:01:02] | wagnerrp: | 30 seconds after i pull a hash for the new builds |
[23:01:06] | wagnerrp: | sphery makes a new commit |
[23:01:33] | ** wagnerrp grumbles ** | |
[23:01:33] | kormoc: | wipe and recheckout! |
[23:01:42] | wagnerrp: | how dare you continue development! |
[23:01:43] | wagnerrp: | :) |
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[23:02:07] | sphery: | wagnerrp: and it's a bin version change, too |
[23:02:37] | sphery: | just did another another one, so... |
[23:02:46] | ** sphery is keeping wagnerrp on his toes ** | |
[23:02:53] | wagnerrp: | kormoc: should we start handling bin changes in the ebuilds? |
[23:03:19] | kormoc: | bin changes? |
[23:03:29] | wagnerrp: | API changes, for plugin compatibility |
[23:03:32] | kormoc: | ahh! |
[23:03:50] | wagnerrp: | or do we just continue as we are doing, and assume people update all the plugins at the same time as the main package |
[23:04:22] | kormoc: | we likely should but given I don't know of a automated way, I think assuming folks do a global update is pretty safe |
[23:05:13] | sphery: | especially if we publicly ridicule those who don't |
[23:06:11] | wagnerrp: | ooh, thats not good |
[23:06:25] | wagnerrp: | i still had the old github tarball |
[23:06:40] | wagnerrp: | so when i redid the ebuilds for the new hash, theyre using the old tarball |
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[23:07:38] | kormoc: | yeah. I ran into that once |
[23:08:08] | kormoc: | I was wondering if we should put the hash in the tarball name but realized it'd really just be use two running into that |
[23:09:14] | wagnerrp: | well, and anyone else writing their own ebuilds |
[23:09:22] | wagnerrp: | but then those people can learn to deal with it too |
[23:11:56] | sphery: | heh, wagnerrp, the bubble popper |
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[23:49:31] | NewBuntu81: | Hi All. I'm trying to get Mythweb working on a new Myth installation in Fedora. I got apache (httpd) up and running, but I can't seem to get the myth interface to load in the website. Been searching blogs, can't seem to find anything that helps. Any tips or links would be appreciated. Thanks! |
[23:50:49] | ** kormoc looks at the nickname... back at the distro... back at the nickname... back at the distro... ** | |
[23:51:54] | Beirdo: | hehehe |
[23:51:54] | NewBuntu81: | Funny! I started with Mythbuntu. Fedora seems to work better with my 2250 card. |
[23:52:03] | Beirdo: | huh? |
[23:53:43] | NewBuntu81: | Oh wait...i just found one that is somewhat new, and guess who wrote it? our very own kormoc! svn co http://svn.mythtv.org/svn/branches/release-## . . . gins/mythweb |
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[23:54:14] | NewBuntu81: | Whoops that didn't copy right. This one. https://github.com/MythTV/mythweb/blob/master/INSTALL |
[23:54:50] | ** Beirdo steals the crack pipe from NewBuntu81 and tosses it across the street. ** | |
[23:55:21] | NewBuntu81: | hahaha. :-) |
[23:55:52] | NewBuntu81: | Ok so my webserver page (accessed by IP) shows one folder with mythweb. I guess i have to edit a .conf file to change it to mythweb for default... |
[23:56:05] | NewBuntu81: | At any rate, if i click mythweb...it should populate with tv schedule info...but it doesn't. |
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