| Saturday, February 19th, 2011, 00:04 UTC | ||
| [00:04:59] | adub_: | wagnerrp i got the same remote you have in can you show me in pastebin your lircd.conf settings |
| [00:05:14] | wagnerrp: | no, i dont have an lircd.conf |
| [00:05:22] | adub_: | oh what do i have |
| [00:05:24] | wagnerrp: | or rather, i have the one that came with lirccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccc |
| [00:05:42] | wagnerrp: | the mceusb remote codes should come pre-programmed |
| [00:06:00] | adub_: | i looked on there there are some settings that arent working |
| [00:06:08] | adub_: | some buttons |
| [00:06:36] | adub_: | like i can move up and down but not select volume up and down works but not channel up and down and guide button does not work |
| [00:07:02] | adub_: | i was using a mceusb file i found online maybe it was outdated during install though i did not see mceusb in the list |
| [00:07:13] | adub_: | maybe it was not listed as mceusb |
| [00:07:19] | adub_: | i was looking for mce something though |
| [00:07:32] | Diverdude: | is there a tool for linux (other than pdfedit) which can be used to annotate pdf files? |
| [00:07:38] | wagnerrp: | there are some lircrc files for the mceusb remotes and mythtv on the wiki |
| [00:07:49] | wagnerrp: | but the lircd.conf that comes with lirc should have everything you need |
| [00:07:51] | adub_: | ya i downloaded the one out there |
| [00:08:17] | adub_: | ok i just selected custom so maybe it will work now dunno |
| [00:09:08] | adub_: | na same thing only certain buttons are working |
| [00:09:24] | adub_: | im more concerned with the sound though |
| [00:09:25] | wagnerrp: | does 'irw' pick up all the necessary buttons? |
| [00:09:37] | adub_: | type in irw |
| [00:09:43] | adub_: | in command ine |
| [00:09:52] | wagnerrp: | yes |
| [00:10:26] | adub_: | no such file or directory |
| [00:10:40] | wagnerrp: | you must have 'irw' if you installed lirc |
| [00:12:20] | adub_: | well the remote does function some so ya it has to be installed |
| [00:12:30] | wagnerrp: | thats not true |
| [00:12:32] | adub_: | ill search repositories after these updates that im grabbing to see if it works |
| [00:12:44] | wagnerrp: | you could have a remote that functions as an HID device |
| [00:12:57] | adub_: | gotcha |
| [00:13:02] | adub_: | ill brb |
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| [00:16:30] | clgshaft: | Hey guys I switched motherboards, and now I can see the mythtv background when watching tv on my 2250 |
| [00:17:10] | wagnerrp: | the HVR-2250 does not have a video output such as to watch tv on |
| [00:18:07] | clgshaft: | Ok. Well when I am watching the 2250 source |
| [00:18:37] | clgshaft: | Using nvidia graphics card |
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| [00:19:06] | clgshaft: | I don't have the issue on the 950 |
| [00:20:05] | wagnerrp: | the 950 and 2250 are going to output the same mpeg2 content, meaning playback should be exactly the same |
| [00:20:46] | clgshaft: | With a different source |
| [00:23:08] | clgshaft: | Seems to have stopped |
| [00:23:11] | clgshaft: | Weird |
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| [00:37:58] | clgshaft: | I am getting it on all channels |
| [00:38:37] | clgshaft: | I can see the mythtv background |
| [00:39:38] | clgshaft: | Exit live tv, come back in, and it's gone |
| [00:39:50] | clgshaft: | What would be causing this? |
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| [01:08:49] | Stevezau: | i have a usb dvb card that has a inbuilt IR receiver.. which creates a inputX in /dev.. ive got lirc but im gettig double key presses cause its also detected as a kbd.. any ideas how i can tell ubuntu to ignore kdb events from that input device?? |
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| [01:59:13] | adub_: | is there a command to run lirc again or a way to choose my mceusb remote |
| [02:03:03] | russell5: | what os? how did you install lirc? |
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| [02:11:51] | adub_: | russell5 ubuntu 10.10 |
| [02:11:58] | adub_: | i think apt-get install mythbuntu |
| [02:12:12] | russell5: | sudo dpkg-reconfigure lirc |
| [02:12:14] | adub_: | basically installs a bunch of crap |
| [02:12:34] | adub_: | my remote is new it appears also i have mceusb loaded not mceusb2 |
| [02:12:36] | russell5: | that should let you choose to confiugre lirc with mceusb remote |
| [02:12:41] | tgm4883: | via mcc as well |
| [02:14:54] | adub_: | in my list i dont see the remote |
| [02:15:03] | adub_: | or a generic option for mceusb |
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| [02:24:46] | tgm4883: | adub_, it's usually listed under "windows media center" |
| [02:26:19] | adub_: | cool i just copied and pasted i found my remote online its still not working how the buttons should |
| [02:26:37] | adub_: | do i need to restart lirc after updating the lircd.conf file |
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| [02:28:09] | ** wagnerrp wonders how Beirdo^2 is IRCing on a bike ** | |
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| [02:28:57] | iamlindoro: | HE'S ON A BOAT |
| [02:29:04] | Beirdo^2: | Haha. Not on the bike yet. |
| [02:29:49] | Beirdo^2: | That would be quite a trick |
| [02:31:26] | Beirdo^2: | Going to have to make mailman stop being stupid when I get home |
| [02:31:45] | adub_: | do i need to tell myth where the lircd.conf file is to look at |
| [02:35:59] | adub_: | wagnerrp how well does the mediagate remote work for you with mythtv |
| [02:36:11] | adub_: | like the ok button doesnt do anything for me |
| [02:36:51] | [R]: | myth doent care about the lircd.conf |
| [02:37:33] | adub_: | oh what does it care about bc this remote works but not all the buttons |
| [02:37:42] | adub_: | how can i get this remote to work properly |
| [02:37:47] | wagnerrp: | no, mine is an 'ehome infrared transmitter' |
| [02:38:09] | adub_: | was thinking you said you had mceusb like the one on newegg |
| [02:38:13] | adub_: | you sent the link to me |
| [02:38:19] | wagnerrp: | i seem to recall telling you before you bought it that i had the same remote, but a different receiver |
| [02:38:51] | wagnerrp: | mine has two transmitter jacks, the one you showed had none |
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| [02:45:07] | adub_: | oh |
| [02:46:22] | adub_: | it has a usb receiver thing so it can work |
| [02:46:37] | adub_: | so yours came with a different receiver |
| [02:47:29] | adub_: | how do i configure certain buttons if myth doesnt care about lircd.conf |
| [02:47:41] | adub_: | can i force it ot use that conf |
| [02:47:56] | wagnerrp: | no, lircd cares about lircd.conf |
| [02:48:10] | wagnerrp: | the lircd.conf tells it how to translate codes into commands |
| [02:48:18] | wagnerrp: | which it then passes to any program connected on the socket |
| [02:48:30] | wagnerrp: | the commands are then handled by the program using the lircrc |
| [02:48:32] | adub_: | oh i see |
| [02:48:58] | adub_: | but basically waht it boils down to you have to have the correct settings in lircd.conf stlil though |
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| [02:49:23] | adub_: | after inputting the codes i found |
| [02:49:34] | wagnerrp: | i dont know how to handle HID remotes, ive never used one |
| [02:49:51] | adub_: | i stopped and restarted the lircd |
| [02:50:40] | adub_: | u have the same remote and use transmitter jacks |
| [02:50:58] | adub_: | so oyu dont use the usb device for ir that comes with the remote |
| [02:53:21] | wagnerrp: | i have a different receiver box than the one showed in the one you bought |
| [02:53:32] | wagnerrp: | its wider with two transmitter jacks on either side of the USB cable |
| [02:53:41] | wagnerrp: | it doesnt show up as an HID device |
| [02:53:48] | wagnerrp: | so it doesnt work without running lirc |
| [02:53:57] | wagnerrp: | however lirc is preprogrammed for all the codes that it will send |
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| [03:05:25] | [R]: | it looks like every night at hte same time |
| [03:05:34] | [R]: | i get a popup which i can only assume is for switched video |
| [03:05:39] | [R]: | telling me if i dont hit select i MIGHT lose the channel |
| [03:05:41] | [R]: | but i never do |
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| [03:55:28] | skd5aner: | Beirdo: ping? |
| [03:57:50] | Beirdo: | pong |
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| [03:58:35] | skd5aner: | ah, good evening :) |
| [03:58:52] | skd5aner: | was playing around with MythWeather this evening, haven't done so since the 0.24 release... very very nice :) |
| [03:59:25] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [03:59:28] | skd5aner: | Beirdo: however, the search on the animated maps doesn't appear to be doing anything, and wasn't sure if you were aware of that issue or not? Or, if it's just me |
| [03:59:37] | Beirdo: | it should |
| [04:00:00] | skd5aner: | I enter either a city name or a zip code, and the please wait dialog flashes for about a second and nothing is ever returned in the list |
| [04:00:04] | wagnerrp: | more likely youre not searching well |
| [04:00:19] | Beirdo: | you have to search for city |
| [04:00:28] | skd5aner: | I did, similiar to the other ones |
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| [04:00:39] | Beirdo: | no zip code... and it has to be one that has an NOAA radar station |
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| [04:01:13] | skd5aner: | Well, let me try again... I'll try some other cities just to check... brb |
| [04:01:20] | Beirdo: | so to get the closest one that covers you, you may need to look up one. |
| [04:01:23] | Beirdo: | one moment |
| [04:01:23] | skd5aner: | anything I can do from the cli to test the script? |
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| [04:02:51] | skd5aner: | Beirdo, that's the key |
| [04:03:04] | skd5aner: | Beirdo: it's not major cities, it's ones with NOAA radar in them |
| [04:03:41] | Beirdo: | correct |
| [04:04:01] | Beirdo: | sure, you can run it from the command line just fine |
| [04:04:07] | skd5aner: | hmmm, not exactly straight forward, but now that I know what to look for :) |
| [04:04:14] | Beirdo: | agreed |
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| [04:04:30] | skd5aner: | maybe some day in the future, it'll be smart enough to find "closest" to a zip or something |
| [04:04:38] | Beirdo: | I'd like to add at some point a method to search zip |
| [04:04:40] | Beirdo: | aye |
| [04:04:46] | Beirdo: | that's what I was thinking |
| [04:05:07] | Beirdo: | http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/nexradinv/index.jsp |
| [04:05:15] | Beirdo: | that's the map of them :) |
| [04:05:40] | skd5aner: | that'll work |
| [04:05:47] | Beirdo: | if you click on the closest one, it should tell you the city to put in |
| [04:05:50] | skd5aner: | interesting how South Korea is on thatmap |
| [04:05:56] | Beirdo: | you MIGHT be able to use call letters |
| [04:06:09] | Beirdo: | well, US has military bases there :) |
| [04:06:22] | skd5aner: | we have a lot of military bases a lot of places ;) |
| [04:06:38] | Beirdo: | true |
| [04:06:46] | skd5aner: | just funny that guam and PR is there, at least they're terrtories |
| [04:06:51] | Beirdo: | but it's kinda odd that only those ones are in NEXRAD |
| [04:06:57] | Beirdo: | Guam and PR are part of the USA |
| [04:07:12] | Beirdo: | South Korea... ain't :) |
| [04:07:19] | skd5aner: | I mean, Guam and PR should be there, funny that South Korea is there as well – did we annex them and I missed it? |
| [04:07:28] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [04:07:40] | Beirdo: | surprised Gitmo's not there |
| [04:07:49] | wagnerrp: | we do have as many troops stationed there as they do |
| [04:07:54] | skd5aner: | Key West is |
| [04:07:59] | skd5aner: | closest you'll get I guess |
| [04:08:04] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [04:08:08] | skd5aner: | 90 miles covers Cuba |
| [04:08:20] | Beirdo: | not all of Cuba |
| [04:08:23] | skd5aner: | alright, good night and have a good weekend – thanks for clarification |
| [04:08:26] | Beirdo: | close, but not all :) |
| [04:08:34] | Beirdo: | no problemo |
| [04:13:26] | skd5aner: | Beirdo: well, it found the NOAA station, but now it's not displaying a map? Does it just take a little bit to retrieve it? |
| [04:15:36] | Beirdo: | I assume you saved the settings... |
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| [04:15:45] | Beirdo: | it should load up just fine |
| [04:16:06] | skd5aner: | the screen is there, but blank (using arclight) |
| [04:16:15] | skd5aner: | I saved 'em :) |
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| [04:18:48] | skd5aner: | doh, maybe I didn't... |
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| [04:21:45] | adub_: | man im so about ot through in the towel and admit defeat |
| [04:22:03] | adub_: | i have googled every parameter to pass |
| [04:22:26] | adub_: | does 0.24 have scan for audio devices in the frontend options 0.23 does not have this option |
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| [04:56:55] | clgshaft: | Hey guys. What kind of games can be played with mythgame? |
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| [04:57:13] | wagnerrp: | mythgame is just a generic program launcher |
| [04:57:29] | wagnerrp: | with a bit of logic to let you scan for titles in a certain directory |
| [04:57:37] | wagnerrp: | and a bit more logic for metadata lookup |
| [04:57:47] | wagnerrp: | anything you can run on the command line, you can run with mythgame |
| [04:58:33] | clgshaft: | Ok. So being new to Linux, any computer game? |
| [04:58:47] | wagnerrp: | no, anything you can run on the command line |
| [04:58:52] | wagnerrp: | game or otherwise |
| [04:59:52] | clgshaft: | Ok I'll have to look into this, never played a game on Linux |
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| [05:09:12] | adub_: | actuallly odds seem better to get audio working with 0.24 there are more settings and you can scan although audio is still not working :( |
| [05:09:33] | adub_: | sucks there are just a bigillion settings in the frontend and combinations ofr audio |
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| [05:57:48] | denisesball1: | hello all, is it possible for me to use a mythtv-frontend version .23 with a .22 backend? I keep getting "This version of MythTV requires and updated database (schema is 10 versions behind) Please run mythtv-setup of mythbackend to update your database |
| [05:58:17] | denisesball1: | this is only for a remote front end, the server with the backend runs the correct version of the frontend and works |
| [06:01:29] | wagnerrp: | no, all frontends must be updated at the same time |
| [06:03:59] | denisesball1: | hm, i wish i could find .22 packaged for ubuntu 10.10 then, that would probably be the easiest |
| [06:04:22] | wagnerrp: | would updating the other machine to 0.23 (or 0.24) be easiest? |
| [06:05:06] | denisesball1: | possibly, its ubuntu 9.10. not sure there are packages made for it and it might be a pain |
| [06:14:27] | denisesball1: | actually the lucid ppa worked for maverick! nice |
| [06:15:46] | ** Beirdo gives mailman the evil eye. ** | |
| [06:15:54] | Beirdo: | let me login, you putz. |
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| [06:16:34] | wagnerrp: | someone was complaining about that on the mailing list |
| [06:16:49] | Beirdo: | I fixed that part |
| [06:17:15] | Beirdo: | but now I'm trying to login as administrator, and not having much luck on the particular list |
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| [06:18:46] | Beirdo: | but ONLY that one list. |
| [06:18:51] | Beirdo: | interesting |
| [06:22:02] | lyricnz: | any idea why my mythfrontend (on mac) flashes red every few seconds, during playback? video driver? |
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| [06:42:35] | Beirdo: | YAY |
| [06:42:39] | Beirdo: | stray lockfile |
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| [06:53:27] | ** lyricnz swears at whatever is messing with his frontend ** | |
| [06:53:42] | [R]: | ghosts! |
| [06:53:43] | Beirdo: | stop swearing at yourself :) |
| [06:54:13] | lyricnz: | Seems like I'd be unable to effect this particular issue, even if I wanted to ;) |
| [06:56:09] | Beirdo: | come ON mailman |
| [06:57:12] | lyricnz: | the "red flash" seems impervious to changing qt/opengl, video modes, playback profiles, etc |
| [07:00:03] | lyricnz: | any ideas? |
| [07:02:07] | Beirdo: | nope |
| [07:09:26] | lyricnz: | could some buffer be filled with red, and flash indicates underrun? |
| [07:10:13] | lyricnz: | linux frontend to same backend has no problem. cpu load on backend is low. this used to be fine (I don't use it much, but kids are on the other tvs) |
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| [07:15:55] | lyricnz: | Odd. Setting playback transparency to < 100 seems to fix it, though I can see desktop through the window :/ |
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| [08:13:03] | FabriceMG: | question , Is it possible to compile only the frontend? |
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| [09:42:03] | justinh: | FabriceMG: no, it isn't possible to only compile the frontend |
| [09:42:56] | justinh: | however, there's nothing to stop you editing the make stuff to stop non-frontend files being installed – or just deleting the non-frontend files yourself |
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| [15:02:23] | adub_: | hi alllll im baaaack with my last day off and last day to attempt to get sound working on mythtv with hdmi |
| [15:03:03] | adub_: | sphery btw its 0.24 that lets you scan in audio devices 0.23 does not i have more options now when i scan honestly i htink i just need to find the correct settings for my card |
| [15:03:08] | adub_: | in the audio settings setup |
| [15:03:19] | adub_: | since sound works with every other device on my system |
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| [15:07:53] | sphery: | adub_: and rescanning, selecting a different device, then Next, Next, ... Finish, then going back and rescanning, then selecting the right device, then Next, Next, ... Finish didn't help? |
| [15:08:27] | adub_: | no but i am thinking that maybe i am not selecting the right mixer or something |
| [15:08:35] | adub_: | and the master pcm thing |
| [15:08:50] | adub_: | like there is three combinations with each i do get different options with the scanning though |
| [15:08:54] | adub_: | so its detecting |
| [15:09:09] | adub_: | i have yet to ifnd a setting that owrks |
| [15:09:21] | adub_: | cna you tel lme wha tyou use for mixer and if you use pcm or master |
| [15:09:36] | sphery: | what audio device do you have? |
| [15:09:42] | adub_: | gt218 |
| [15:09:46] | adub_: | geforce 210 |
| [15:09:48] | sphery: | in MythTV? |
| [15:09:54] | adub_: | oh |
| [15:09:56] | sphery: | ALSA:something? |
| [15:10:07] | adub_: | K one sec yeah i have devices |
| [15:12:04] | adub_: | ALSA:dmix:CARD=NVidia,DEV=3 |
| [15:12:25] | sphery: | For mixer, you need ALSA:default |
| [15:12:33] | adub_: | i have mor than just that tho |
| [15:12:44] | sphery: | for audio device, that will only allow stereo |
| [15:13:00] | sphery: | you probably want ALSA:CARD=NVidia,DEV=3 |
| [15:13:09] | adub_: | ALSA:hdmi:CARD=NVidia,DEV=0 |
| [15:13:10] | sphery: | make sure you scan, then find it in the list |
| [15:13:44] | adub_: | ALSA:hw:CARD=NVidia,DEV=3 |
| [15:14:05] | adub_: | ALSA:plughw:CARD=NVidia,DEV=3 |
| [15:14:17] | adub_: | ALSA:pulse |
| [15:14:25] | sphery: | ok, yeah, don't use pulse |
| [15:14:32] | adub_: | PulseAudio:default |
| [15:14:43] | adub_: | thats what is listed |
| [15:14:52] | sphery: | try ALSA:hw:CARD=NVidia,DEV=3 or ALSA:hdmi:CARD=NVidia,DEV=0 (selected from the list after a rescan) |
| [15:15:07] | sphery: | and make sure you use ALSA:default for mixer |
| [15:15:30] | adub_: | do i want dolby digital option and dts |
| [15:15:43] | adub_: | also do i want any advanced audio options |
| [15:17:13] | adub_: | also mixer contorl pcm or master ?? |
| [15:17:50] | adub_: | also after a change like this do i need to do anything additional |
| [15:17:57] | sphery: | try as simple as possible |
| [15:18:01] | sphery: | no dolby digital/dts |
| [15:18:08] | adub_: | ok i did that nothing |
| [15:18:10] | sphery: | mixer controls master |
| [15:18:18] | adub_: | two great oh mixer i idd not have master |
| [15:18:21] | adub_: | just pcm |
| [15:18:27] | adub_: | lemme go back in there |
| [15:18:30] | sphery: | probably doesn't matter, but it's the simplest |
| [15:18:37] | adub_: | no sound |
| [15:18:44] | adub_: | do you know if gt218 is supported |
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| [15:18:56] | sphery: | does 0.24 have the Test button in the audio setup page? |
| [15:19:07] | sphery: | we don't support specific sound cards |
| [15:19:21] | sphery: | we support ALSA, etc., so once you get your sound card working and properly configured, it will work |
| [15:19:45] | sphery: | I have no clue how to properly configure yours--as ALSA configuration itself is black magic |
| [15:19:48] | adub_: | hmm sound works with all other devices |
| [15:19:56] | adub_: | i appreciate the patience btw |
| [15:20:31] | sphery: | I have a feeling you have Pulse Audio installed and running, in which case you need to use Pulse Audio in MythTV (and you can only ever get stereo sound) |
| [15:20:34] | adub_: | i do not see a test button |
| [15:20:47] | sphery: | your best bet is to get rid of Pulse completely |
| [15:21:01] | sphery: | but try ALSA:pulse for now |
| [15:21:03] | adub_: | how do i do that apt-get remove pulseaudio ?? |
| [15:21:10] | adub_: | ok ill do that someone was saying softawre |
| [15:21:13] | sphery: | you'll have to ask some *buntu user--I don't know |
| [15:21:14] | adub_: | also what do you think of htis page |
| [15:21:19] | adub_: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/User_Manual:HDAudioPassthrough |
| [15:21:26] | adub_: | i have gt218 |
| [15:21:43] | adub_: | at the very bottom i could not make apples to oranges out of what it was saying |
| [15:21:51] | sphery: | and you've got kernel 2.6.35 or higher? |
| [15:22:01] | sphery: | that's the best documentation we have on it |
| [15:22:59] | Methuselah: | @wagner and kormic: I am just following up on something you both told me yesterday. I asked about ati big desktop, if there was a way to get the screen launched on second screen. And you guys said to get the flamethrower nvidia card. Interestingly enough mythtv itself has a nice solution -geometry xres x yres + xoffset + yoffset . Anyways I know you guys help alot of people so I thought I'd give you my f |
| [15:23:01] | Methuselah: | eedback, and thanks. |
| [15:23:01] | sphery: | uname -r shows kernel version |
| [15:23:45] | sphery: | Methuselah: set those in the frontend settings if you're using them normally--don't do command-line override with -geometry |
| [15:24:05] | sphery: | i.e. GUI X/Y Offset and GUI Width/Height settings in Appearance settings |
| [15:24:21] | adub_: | lemme see |
| [15:24:44] | adub_: | 2.6.35-25-generic |
| [15:24:55] | Methuselah: | ah ok, i was doing so by command line. I will change it, thanks. |
| [15:25:24] | sphery: | adub_: try ALSA:pulse and see if you get audio |
| [15:25:25] | adub_: | sphery the pulse audio did not work i read i have to select as software which is obvious |
| [15:25:30] | adub_: | i used master and not pcm |
| [15:25:36] | adub_: | not sure what to select there |
| [15:25:38] | sphery: | did you switch mixers? |
| [15:25:57] | sphery: | though for ALSA:pulse, ALSA:default /might/ be right, anyway... |
| [15:26:14] | sphery: | can you try: ps -efw | grep -i pulse |
| [15:28:23] | adub_: | http://ubuntu.pastecode.com/2198 |
| [15:28:29] | adub_: | there is the output for that command |
| [15:29:40] | sphery: | yeah, pulseaudio is what's causing the problem for you. So, either set up MythTV to use PulseAudio directly (with something like PulseAudio:default, but I have no clue what it really is and get bad-quality, stereo-only, high-latency audio) or get rid of the Pulse abomination |
| [15:30:21] | adub_: | ok |
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| [15:30:39] | adub_: | the pulse audio sound server though |
| [15:30:49] | adub_: | is this what my other sound is piping through |
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| [15:30:53] | sphery: | This is the best reason to use Mythbuntu instead of trying to make MythTV work on Ubuntu |
| [15:31:15] | adub_: | will i need esound afterward or something |
| [15:31:19] | sphery: | because a team of people figures out all the things that have to be changed on the lower-level distro to make it work properly with MythTV so you don't spend a week trying to get your audio working |
| [15:31:28] | sphery: | no, you don't want esound |
| [15:31:32] | sphery: | you want ALSA used directly |
| [15:31:33] | adub_: | i did apt-get remove mythtv and autoremoved everything |
| [15:31:39] | adub_: | then installed mythbuntu |
| [15:31:44] | sphery: | no, Mythbuntu is a distro |
| [15:31:48] | sphery: | Ubuntu is a distro |
| [15:31:50] | adub_: | apt-get install mythbuntu-desktop |
| [15:31:54] | sphery: | if you start with Ubuntu, you have Ubuntu |
| [15:32:00] | adub_: | right |
| [15:32:05] | sphery: | if you start with Mythbuntu, you have Ubuntu /already/ configured for MythTV |
| [15:32:29] | adub_: | sphery i will just blow this install off and install mythbuntu |
| [15:32:46] | adub_: | i think that would be the absolute best avenue |
| [15:33:00] | sphery: | http://mythbuntu.org/ is Mythbuntu. http://mythbuntu.org/downloads is where you download Mythbuntu |
| [15:33:07] | adub_: | k |
| [15:33:09] | adub_: | thanks |
| [15:33:12] | sphery: | and, yeah, I agree that it's best--IMHO, it's the best way to start with MythTV |
| [15:33:43] | sphery: | and for anyone who likes the Debian or Ubuntu style distro, Mythbuntu is the best way to use Ubuntu |
| [15:33:49] | laga: | yep |
| [15:34:18] | sphery: | ^^^ and there is one of the guys who spends countless hours of his time following mythtv development so you don't have to |
| [15:34:26] | adub_: | so mythbuntu do not have pulse audio installed |
| [15:34:39] | Methuselah: | curious to know has there been any thought of making mythtv capable of running in window in such away that it can be resized live? |
| [15:34:40] | laga: | heh, i haven't worked on mythbuntu in years, i'm completely out of the loop |
| [15:34:59] | adub_: | thanks laga for your hard work and all you guys to the opensource community i wish i had the programming knowledge |
| [15:35:01] | sphery: | ah, well, I guess it's like the title of President... :) |
| [15:35:12] | sphery: | ok, so "spent" countless hours of his life |
| [15:35:33] | sphery: | adub_: My thoughts on Mythbuntu: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/471954#471954 |
| [15:35:35] | laga: | who knows what the future holds ;) |
| [15:35:53] | laga: | rather thank tgm4883` |
| [15:36:18] | sphery: | yeah, he has been super active, lately |
| [15:37:02] | sphery: | adub_: anyway, I think you'll have a much easier time getting MythTV working by starting with Mythbuntu (=Ubuntu already configured appropriately) |
| [15:37:28] | adub_: | ok we'll see if not then i dunno what to do i know i can get my nvidia configured and owrking in the OS |
| [15:37:36] | adub_: | so there is no pulse audio with mythbuntu? |
| [15:37:55] | sphery: | but on the bright side, trying the hard way first gave you something to keep you busy during your little vacation :) |
| [15:38:00] | adub_: | according to that documentation was it stating that gt218 will work with myth? |
| [15:38:06] | sphery: | it should be much easier |
| [15:38:26] | sphery: | I don't know exactly what they do about Pulse, but they have the distro configured so audio should work well for you |
| [15:38:37] | adub_: | honestly i am glad i took the hard road it learned a ton about myth and with my video capture card i can breeze through a myth setup in no time |
| [15:38:41] | sphery: | and, yeah, it should work fine with 2.6.35+ |
| [15:38:45] | adub_: | and i understand the innerworkings better |
| [15:38:47] | adub_: | for sure |
| [15:39:09] | sphery: | yep, if you went the easy way, first, MythTV would be much more of a black box |
| [15:39:25] | sphery: | seems you had MythTV basically figured out--and it was just the low-level (system) audio stuff getting in your way |
| [15:39:35] | sphery: | so good time to switch over to the easy way... |
| [15:39:41] | adub_: | how well do xbmc and mythtv run together on the same box |
| [15:39:48] | adub_: | i mean seperate programs for sure |
| [15:40:03] | sphery: | You've been practicing your swings with 2 baseball bats, now you're stepping up to the plate, so you take one so you can hit a home run :) |
| [15:40:09] | adub_: | but this is ultimately what i want to do i am setting up a htpc / webserver but the web side is lightweight on apps |
| [15:40:25] | sphery: | you should be able to run xbmc on the system as you like |
| [15:40:35] | sphery: | though, IMHO, you should not use it to watch your MythTV recordings |
| [15:40:44] | adub_: | sweet just making sure i thought as much but never know there could be quirks |
| [15:41:01] | adub_: | ya i seen where you oculd use it as a frontend |
| [15:41:06] | sphery: | take advantage of all the features mythfrontend offers (commercial skip, UI with tons of metadata, timestretch, ...) for MythTV recordings |
| [15:41:11] | adub_: | and that would be a common sense move to just use mythfrontend |
| [15:41:12] | sphery: | and feel free to use xbmc for other stuff |
| [15:41:27] | adub_: | right that is the goal the apps are meant to do two different things |
| [15:41:36] | sphery: | cool, should work for you |
| [15:41:39] | adub_: | but just not totally different |
| [15:41:44] | adub_: | :) |
| [15:42:13] | adub_: | also before i started this i was running i386 OS installs on amd64 hardware |
| [15:44:17] | sphery: | heh |
| [15:44:54] | adub_: | sphery have to make sure it shouldnt matter if i am watching analog tv |
| [15:45:01] | adub_: | that is the only coax i have hooked up atm |
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| [15:46:35] | sphery: | with an appropriate analog capture card you should be fine |
| [15:46:51] | sphery: | like a PVR-150 or HVR-1600 or similar--one with a hardware encoder |
| [15:46:56] | adub_: | hvr-1600 i can watch the video all day |
| [15:46:59] | adub_: | ya |
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| [15:47:55] | bcgrown: | good morning people |
| [15:48:15] | bcgrown: | does anyone know of a good solution for watching mythtv stuff on an Android device? |
| [15:48:49] | bcgrown: | ideally, streaming. the mythweb flowplayer doesn't work with the Android version of Flash |
| [15:55:34] | sphery: | all I can say is that there were a few people discussing exactly that on the -users list. I think in mythweb flow player problem thread |
| [15:55:51] | bcgrown: | just found this: http://code.google.com/p/mythdroid/ |
| [15:55:54] | bcgrown: | looks promising |
| [15:57:51] | justinh: | I just uninstalled that. And mythmote :-) |
| [15:58:25] | bcgrown: | justinh: oh? i've been using mythmote to control my frontend occasionally, i thought it was pretty good |
| [15:58:52] | bcgrown: | that site says mythdroid can stream recordings to the android device though |
| [15:58:52] | justinh: | I find it easier to use an actual remote |
| [15:59:00] | bcgrown: | yeah me too |
| [15:59:11] | bcgrown: | i want to be able to watch stuff on my phone though |
| [15:59:41] | justinh: | I want to be able to watch stuff on my actual TV. Which I can when my wife isn't watching blimmin soaps |
| [16:01:00] | bcgrown: | well, i have that option alreadyt |
| [16:01:25] | bcgrown: | make a playback group for blimmin soaps... set playback speed to 1.2x :) |
| [16:05:46] | justinh: | already done |
| [16:06:57] | bcgrown: | continue increasing speed until she notices...then dial it back a notch and say you turned that off |
| [16:10:34] | bcgrown: | http://q2box.com/projects/androidmythweb/ <-- this would be great if it actually existed |
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| [16:40:28] | justinh: | even with timestretch & commercial flagging (which now mostly works thanks to hashbang!) soaps still amount to $stupid hours per week |
| [16:44:40] | bcgrown: | yeah |
| [16:44:47] | bcgrown: | i know what you mean |
| [16:44:54] | bcgrown: | who/what is hashbang? |
| [16:47:38] | wagnerrp: | #! |
| [16:47:45] | bcgrown: | smartass... |
| [16:49:19] | justinh: | hashbang is who made commflagging work for UK peeps. OK so by wrapping mythcommflag in an external script but hey it works really well |
| [16:49:34] | justinh: | and best of all it can be tweaked |
| [16:49:41] | justinh: | *without* editing code |
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| [16:50:13] | wagnerrp: | you mean it added UI options? |
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| [16:53:27] | justinh: | it's easier to tweak a script than c++ code |
| [16:54:08] | bcgrown: | ah cool |
| [16:54:10] | justinh: | and with all the settings rationalisation going on there'd be a fight to get flagging profiles put in |
| [16:55:43] | bcgrown: | any reason this wouldn't work on Android too? I'm pretty sure it supports h.264 as well http://chriscarey.com/projects/mythtv/iphone/ |
| [16:58:37] | bcgrown: | hrmm.. the demo site just shows the dreaded blue lego block in place of the videos |
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| [17:30:21] | adub_: | sphery well the good news is the remote is 100% working now bad news no sound but i havent dived into configs that much |
| [17:30:37] | adub_: | im going to first get all the updates and see what the kernel update does for me and work from there |
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| [17:33:13] | abqjp: | adub_, Just to be clear from the other day, I use a "speaker-test" command in my startup (boot-up) script because that is the only way I can reliably get sound after a reboot. The speaker-test initializes something that myth does not seem to... |
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| [17:40:18] | adub_: | abqjp what speaker test command to you initiate i seen some examples online |
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| [17:43:01] | abqjp: | I don't have the computer up right now. It is the one I quoted the other day, that you said you had already tried. Just try speaker-test without any arguments and see if it gives you any sound. It should if you are using the asound.conf I posted at that time too. If speaker-test gives you sound, THEN going into myth, sound should work. |
| [17:47:39] | abqjp: | [02/17/11 19:39] <abqjp> adub, for things like youtube (flash audio), you will probably need something like http://mythtv.pastebin.com/M1xBwuiK in your /etc/asound.conf file, to tell the system in general to route sound via your HDMI |
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| [17:49:17] | abqjp: | [02/17/11 23:02] <abqjp> adub, I do "/usr/bin/speaker-test --test wav --speaker 1" as part of my /etc/rc.d/rc.local script to "prime" the audio on my GT220. Might work for you too. |
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| [17:51:14] | adub_: | gotcha thanks for the heads up |
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| [17:51:21] | adub_: | ill try and letcha know if it worked |
| [17:52:54] | abqjp: | adub_, looking at my database, it looks like I am just using "ALSA:hdmi:CARD=NVidia" for the audio device on that mythfrontend computer. |
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| [18:45:16] | adub_: | abqjp what system are you running |
| [18:45:39] | adub_: | still no sound however i have gotten hdmi sound on everything else via configuration |
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| [18:49:15] | adub_: | im thourghly convinced at this point i need a new graphics card |
| [18:49:40] | adub_: | if all people are doing online is inputting asound.conf and editing /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf |
| [18:49:40] | wagnerrp: | what card do you have? |
| [18:49:55] | adub_: | geforce 210 |
| [18:50:04] | wagnerrp: | should work fine |
| [18:50:08] | adub_: | hmm |
| [18:50:14] | adub_: | i have tried nearly everything man |
| [18:50:24] | adub_: | gt 218 |
| [18:50:28] | wagnerrp: | for what its worth, i had to revert back to analog audio because i could get HDMI to work again after a kernel update |
| [18:50:41] | adub_: | oh |
| [18:50:42] | wagnerrp: | a GT218 would be an... ION2? |
| [18:50:48] | wagnerrp: | s/could/couldnt/ |
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| [18:50:59] | adub_: | gotcha couldnt i see |
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| [18:51:12] | adub_: | the analog sound on this |
| [18:51:41] | adub_: | i disable onboard to get rid of confusion i could renable but i was unable to get it to work either |
| [18:51:56] | adub_: | but not sure what settings to role with this card is hd also but has analog inputs |
| [18:52:06] | adub_: | its my onboard mobo sound |
| [18:52:40] | adub_: | the good news is me going to mythbuntu for whatever reason my remote works perfectly fine now |
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| [18:52:49] | adub_: | which is a good thing one less headache i have to mess with |
| [18:53:43] | adub_: | wagnerrp so your rocking alsa:analog in audio output device |
| [18:53:47] | adub_: | for your setting |
| [18:54:00] | wagnerrp: | something like that, i dont remember what specifically |
| [18:54:13] | adub_: | you on your htpc |
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| [19:01:51] | judget: | newbe here trying to get started setup mythtv server but my client on another machine has the prorocoll error |
| [19:02:13] | wagnerrp: | protocol mismatch? |
| [19:02:36] | tgm4883`: | judget, what version of mythtv are you running on each machine? |
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| [19:02:41] | StevenR: | sounds like the backend and frontend are different versions |
| [19:03:08] | denisesball1: | hey all, i added a second lineup to my schedulesdirect account, but its not showing up in mythtv-setup. does it just take a bit show up? |
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| [19:06:04] | judget: | my new mythtv client saysver it only understands protocol 56 and the server is 23056 |
| [19:06:47] | wagnerrp: | then you need to upgrade it to 0.23.1 |
| [19:06:54] | wagnerrp: | or upgrade both to 0.24 |
| [19:07:29] | tgm4883`: | yep, just as wagnerrp said |
| [19:07:41] | tgm4883`: | you can do that via http://mythbuntu.org/repos |
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| [19:08:49] | judget: | i installed it from synaptic in ubuntu 10.4 |
| [19:08:59] | judget: | how to upgrade? pls |
| [19:09:05] | tgm4883`: | judget, yes, and you need to add the mythbuntu repos, as I just said |
| [19:09:29] | judget: | ok ill give that a try thanks |
| [19:09:36] | tgm4883`: | yw |
| [19:09:48] | judget: | should i add those repose in synaptic? |
| [19:10:34] | tgm4883`: | did you read the page? |
| [19:10:44] | tgm4883`: | brb, rebooting desktop |
| [19:12:29] | judget: | hmmm do i do this on my mythbuntu server or on the client? |
| [19:12:42] | judget: | i am at the page now... reading |
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| [19:13:25] | tgm4883: | You would do this on the machine that isn't running 0.23.1 |
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| [19:26:29] | momelod: | greetings channel |
| [19:27:17] | momelod: | i've got mythtv working w/ alsa and surroundsound over plughw:0,3 device. but when mythfrontend is running i don't get sound out of any other application. |
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| [19:34:22] | judget: | ok anyway I did the repo upgrade to both my client and server but the client i think is only 23.x and the server i set to go to 24 |
| [19:35:14] | judget: | so i just added the mythbuntu conmtrol center assumin that will let me push the client up to 24 |
| [19:36:18] | tgm4883: | judget, what mythbuntu version are you using on your client? |
| [19:36:41] | judget: | i am getting them both up to 24 now |
| [19:36:56] | judget: | i fond the setting in the mythbuntu control center |
| [19:37:31] | tgm4883: | ok |
| [19:38:05] | judget: | let me see how far i cane get and ill get abck to u tx |
| [19:38:20] | judget: | i assume the best docs ate on the mythbuntu site? |
| [19:38:49] | tgm4883: | judget, for setup or what? |
| [19:39:02] | judget: | beginner dummy setup for me |
| [19:39:22] | tgm4883: | http://mythbuntu.org/wiki/installation-guide |
| [19:39:28] | judget: | i have a new mythbuntu server i just built and my regular ubuntu strudio desktop with a client only on it |
| [19:39:33] | judget: | tx man |
| [19:40:21] | judget: | yea thats the one i found earlier and bookmarked |
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| [19:53:14] | judget: | on the myth server should the local backend and the master backend be the same IP address I am running just the onen server |
| [19:53:49] | judget: | or shoudl the local be the loopback and the master be the real ip of the machine? |
| [19:54:29] | judget: | i am planning now for only a single server with multiple clients |
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| [19:58:00] | judget: | nvm i see the doc now |
| [19:58:30] | pillar: | hi, just found out about mythtv, I'm curious to find out how it would work on findland dvb-c, can it also show paid channels? |
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| [20:08:47] | justinh: | pillar: yes with a suitable *hardware* CAM & viewing card |
| [20:14:47] | pillar: | justinh: ok cool, is there any page that would have information on those that I could look |
| [20:14:53] | AndyCap: | pillar: so that depends on who makes the conditional access system for your provider |
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| [20:15:34] | AndyCap: | pillar: what's the name of your provider? |
| [20:16:30] | pillar: | AndyCap: Welho |
| [20:18:38] | AndyCap: | heh. is this the providers' homepage? http://dvb.welho.fi/cable.php |
| [20:19:18] | AndyCap: | providing channels.conf beats all expectations. |
| [20:19:35] | AndyCap: | too bad they don't mention anything about conax there |
| [20:20:58] | pillar: | AndyCap: yeah, that's them |
| [20:22:21] | AndyCap: | pillar: but since they mention conax card here http://www.welho.fi/en/yksityisille/tv-ja-kan . . . es/welho-mix odds are good you can get it working if you buy a conax cam and have a tuner with the cam slot (Common Interface) |
| [20:22:56] | pillar: | AndyCap: yeah, my understanding is that I have a conax card |
| [20:25:54] | AndyCap: | pillar: there is one snag though. If they require CI+ you're out of luck |
| [20:26:47] | AndyCap: | pillar: hmm, I can't read this http://www.welho.fi/ci |
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| [20:27:13] | pillar: | ok I'll check it |
| [20:28:26] | pillar: | AndyCap: it's talking about the HD receivers having this CI+ |
| [20:28:44] | pillar: | I have a normal pvr, I wonder if I still have CI+ then |
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| [20:29:06] | AndyCap: | pillar: the channels that require CI+ you can't get on linux, the others that work with a normal CAM should be fine |
| [20:29:42] | pillar: | AndyCap: ok, is that something that is being worked on or is that just impossible due to some security stuff? |
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| [20:30:30] | AndyCap: | pillar: so far it's not possible since they want to control exactly what devices recieve the unencrypted stream |
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| [20:30:49] | AndyCap: | pillar: if they were to relax their demands on what devices they authorize it could become possible |
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| [20:30:57] | AndyCap: | but that doesn't seem likely |
| [20:31:19] | pillar: | AndyCap: ok, thanks for the info |
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| [20:44:13] | momelod: | would anyone know what would cause the fe's "scan for audio devices" to not list my ALSA:default device. even tho `aplay -L` shows the device? |
| [20:45:06] | drkvoid: | anybody know where the url for iptv tuner channels gets stored in the db? I need to verify if the info made it in during the m3u import. |
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| [20:59:14] | justinh: | drkvoid: try looking in the channel editor instead |
| [21:02:06] | drkvoid: | justinh: K. Looking. I am assuming that it should show up in the "Frequency or Channel" field, which is blank. I'll try manually entering a couple and see if that works. |
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| [21:32:14] | drkvoid: | nope. not that field |
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| [22:01:38] | justinh: | ahh video-ui.xml we meet again |
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| [22:19:56] | bonelifer: | Okay, I'm messing around with my recording profile: http://mythtv.pastebin.com/9UspzhFa I have a PVR-500. Should I set aspect ratio to off? Does doing that allow the driver to auto-decide the correct Aspect ratio? Else what aspect ratio should I use? Do those AVG/MAX bitrates seem low? |
| [22:20:40] | wagnerrp: | bitrate could be higher, everything else seems fine |
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| [22:24:01] | bonelifer: | for shows like Conan and Craig Ferguson, I don't get the Season/Episode from SchedulesDirect, should I enable EIT? Would EIT be more likely to have since it would be coming from the local broadcast affiliate? |
| [22:25:25] | wagnerrp: | schedules direct is likely to provide better data than anything you get over EIT |
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| [22:25:37] | wagnerrp: | and you cannot mix data on a single channel |
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| [22:27:35] | bonelifer: | well I guess then manual addition of s/e for me. I use mythnuv2mkv to re-encode smaller and move to a holding directory, then tvnamer to rename and send to their final destination. So far those are the only two I have to manually add their s-e info. |
| [22:28:42] | wagnerrp: | recordings cannot hold season and episode data anyway |
| [22:30:43] | bonelifer: | must magically get the s-e for other shows then. |
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| [22:32:08] | wagnerrp: | likely pulls from thetvdb or tvrage |
| [22:32:59] | bonelifer: | so most likely need to nudge the mythnuv2mkv or the ttvdb library guy |
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| [22:34:15] | bonelifer: | I can understand Conan since they are naming their seasons(ttvdb guys) by the year, so right now we're on Season 2011. Which is strange since they don't do that to Craig's show and he's really the same format. |
| [22:34:59] | bonelifer: | they are worse then the wikipedia nazis |
| [22:37:21] | wagnerrp: | ive never been partial to mythnuv2mkv, since excessively long bash utilities... bother my sensibilities |
| [22:37:44] | wagnerrp: | and the primary purpose of tvnamer is to rename ill-gotten TV shows |
| [22:37:47] | bonelifer: | well, mythvidexport.py just wouldn't work for me |
| [22:37:49] | wagnerrp: | so i cant really help with either |
| [22:37:56] | wagnerrp: | that one i can help with... whats the problem |
| [22:38:01] | bonelifer: | all mine are recorded off the tv. |
| [22:38:11] | mianos: | handbrake |
| [22:38:16] | mianos: | command line is tiny |
| [22:38:18] | bonelifer: | I have cable |
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| [22:38:39] | wagnerrp: | no, im not saying thats what youre using it for, im just saying thats what its mostly used for |
| [22:38:49] | wagnerrp: | so ive never investigated it or how it works |
| [22:39:04] | bonelifer: | yeah, it makes it easier to place in a structured format |
| [22:39:50] | bonelifer: | basically fixed stuff not being formated the way the metadata grabber wants it in Videos |
| [22:40:10] | bonelifer: | I can't remember the last error, but at one point it complained ttvdb.conf and not being able to find it. |
| [22:40:47] | wagnerrp: | ah, that was something to do with the 0.23 version, and it shouldnt have been a fatal error anyway |
| [22:41:08] | bonelifer: | showed as errorr in the queue |
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| [23:58:41] | vontrapp: | the wiki page for the protocol programinfo says version 57 removes the field "commfree" |
| [23:58:52] | vontrapp: | but that field is nowhere to be found |
| [23:59:16] | vontrapp: | is it under some other alias? only thing I can figure is maybe programflags |
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