| Sunday, January 30th, 2011, 00:06 UTC | ||
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| [00:08:46] | mianos: | I have a user problem, I finally got jamu.py running well and it's got all the meta data plus the downloaded the coverart |
| [00:08:55] | mianos: | but now myth does not load it |
| [00:09:11] | mianos: | it seems it's not adding the directory to the jpg |
| [00:09:21] | mianos: | 5 MythUIHelper, Error: LoadScaleImage(11544_coverart.jpg)Unable to find image file |
| [00:10:04] | mianos: | root@mythtv:/var/lib/mythtv/coverart# ls -l 11544_coverart.jpg |
| [00:10:05] | mianos: | -rw-r--r-- 1 mythtv mythtv 522602 2011-01–29 21:38 11544_coverart.jpg |
| [00:10:05] | mianos: | root@mythtv:/var/lib/mythtv/coverart# file 11544_coverart.jpg |
| [00:10:06] | mianos: | 11544_coverart.jpg: JPEG image data, JFIF standard 1.01 |
| [00:10:09] | mianos: | file is there |
| [00:10:17] | mianos: | readable by myth |
| [00:10:56] | mianos: | mythvideo 2:0.24.0+fixes.20110129.bb5e1 |
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| [00:15:44] | wagnerrp: | mianos: you have that directory defined for the 'Coverart' storage group? |
| [00:16:24] | mianos: | yes |
| [00:16:39] | mianos: | should I be seeing the directory prepended to that filename? |
| [00:16:46] | wagnerrp: | no |
| [00:16:47] | mianos: | I thought I did once |
| [00:16:57] | mianos: | dI'll double check the storage group |
| [00:18:44] | mianos: | yep coverart /var/lib/mythtv/coverart/ |
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| [00:20:46] | mianos: | value data hostname |
| [00:20:47] | mianos: | VideoArtworkDir /var/lib/mythtv/coverart mythtv |
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| [00:31:06] | scorp007: | hi, does a) mythfrontend.real need to be running for a recording to occur? and b) if so, will mythbackend kill it after a recording so that idle shutdown can occur? |
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| [00:31:23] | wagnerrp: | the backend is for recording, the frontend is for playback |
| [00:31:27] | scorp007: | oh |
| [00:31:45] | scorp007: | so.. it seems like if frontend is running, it won't go idle? |
| [00:32:10] | wagnerrp: | the backend will not shut down so long as a mythfrontend is connected to it |
| [00:32:45] | scorp007: | it seems like the instructions on http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/ACPI_Wakeup make no mention of killing the frontend so that shutdown can occur |
| [00:33:01] | scorp007: | i.e. automatically killing it, or what have you,. |
| [00:33:13] | wagnerrp: | no, as the frontend is independent |
| [00:33:29] | wagnerrp: | the assumption on that page is that you are either running a dedicated backend, and your frontends are all machines you manually shut down |
| [00:33:32] | scorp007: | hmm.. what if the same box is used for playback occasionally? |
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| [00:33:57] | wagnerrp: | or you are using a program called 'mythwelcome', which offers a basic remote controllable menu to drop back to and still allow the backend to shut down |
| [00:34:21] | scorp007: | can it be done without that program? just with stock mythbuntu? |
| [00:34:43] | wagnerrp: | mythwelcome is part of mythtv, it should be included in the stock mythbuntu |
| [00:34:49] | scorp007: | oh. |
| [00:35:01] | scorp007: | is that program necessary for what I'm trying to accomplish? |
| [00:35:27] | wagnerrp: | if you wish to run a combo frontend/backend, and allow the backend to automatically shut down when idle |
| [00:35:33] | wagnerrp: | you have to set up mythwelcome |
| [00:35:38] | scorp007: | ohh, I see. |
| [00:35:40] | wagnerrp: | or... just exit out of mythfrontend to the desktop |
| [00:35:52] | wagnerrp: | either works |
| [00:36:03] | wagnerrp: | mythwelcome just lets you start the frontend back up through the remote |
| [00:36:03] | scorp007: | ah, but the frontend will always auto-open on boot. |
| [00:36:30] | scorp007: | so if I schedule a recording, the system will boot up, and the frontend will open, blocking the shutdown |
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| [00:39:35] | scorp007: | can I do something about that? |
| [00:39:48] | wagnerrp: | alter the startup scripts |
| [00:39:55] | scorp007: | where are they located? |
| [00:40:05] | wagnerrp: | dont know |
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| [00:58:47] | larzen: | folks.. i keep getting this error: mythfilldatabas[14469] general protection ip:7f1268015c02 sp:7f125b65eb80 error:0 in libmyth-0.22.so.0.22.0[7f1267f4a000+2c9000] |
| [00:58:57] | larzen: | i see it in the logs.. all the time.. not sure how to go about fixing |
| [00:59:09] | kormoc: | larzen, is this new? |
| [00:59:38] | larzen: | kormoc: nope. has been going on since ever i upgraded to 0.22_p24255 |
| [00:59:48] | larzen: | so a good number of months now |
| [00:59:52] | kormoc: | upgrade to newer? |
| [01:00:30] | larzen: | im a little afraid to be homest! |
| [01:00:48] | larzen: | when I upgraded from 0.21 to 0.22 it took a long time to get everything to work right again |
| [01:01:26] | kormoc: | Well, given how old 0.22 is, I doubt anyone will really want to work on it given it might be fixed already and it likely isn't causing any actual issue, is it? |
| [01:01:53] | larzen: | kormoc: im not sure – last week I found that my db wasn't actually populated |
| [01:01:57] | larzen: | so i had to run the tool manually |
| [01:02:14] | kormoc: | and that worked fine? |
| [01:02:15] | wagnerrp: | the upgrade from 0.21 to 0.22 was two years of development and a major switch in the application development platform |
| [01:02:29] | wagnerrp: | i doubt 0.22 forward will cause such issues |
| [01:02:30] | larzen: | when i run the tool manually no problem |
| [01:05:00] | larzen: | this is on a gentoo distro |
| [01:05:06] | larzen: | let me see if they have an e-build |
| [01:07:24] | larzen: | mythtv-0.23.1_p27077 |
| [01:07:32] | larzen: | is this update going to mess up my db? |
| [01:07:56] | wagnerrp: | it will permanently update it, but i wouldnt consider that 'messing it up' |
| [01:08:03] | wagnerrp: | i wouldnt use that anyway |
| [01:08:14] | wagnerrp: | if youre going to update, update to 0.24 |
| [01:08:18] | larzen: | which ver do you recommend? |
| [01:09:12] | larzen: | 0.24 is stable? |
| [01:09:19] | wagnerrp: | has been for several months |
| [01:09:33] | wagnerrp: | i wouldnt use the ebuilds in the portage tree either |
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| [01:10:39] | larzen: | compile it from src? |
| [01:10:49] | larzen: | i mean.. download straight from myth website? |
| [01:10:57] | kormoc: | larzen, we have our own portage tree |
| [01:11:01] | wagnerrp: | youre already doing both when you use portage |
| [01:11:03] | [R]: | that's what she swaid |
| [01:11:11] | wagnerrp: | (in case you didnt realize) |
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| [01:11:36] | kormoc: | larzen, https://github.com/MythTV/packaging/tree/master/Gentoo |
| [01:12:19] | larzen: | crazy =) |
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| [01:15:52] | scorp007: | anyone know why I'm getting errors about the dvb card on reboot such as: http://codepad.org/rqjoLzWO — but when I sudo service mythtv-backend restart, it fixes it? |
| [01:16:16] | wagnerrp: | usb tuner? |
| [01:16:19] | kormoc: | scorp007, myth is getting started before the driver finishes loading |
| [01:16:33] | scorp007: | kormoc, why could that be happening? |
| [01:16:56] | kormoc: | scorp007, because your driver takes x time and myth starts up before x time is donw |
| [01:17:13] | kormoc: | *done |
| [01:17:15] | scorp007: | hmm |
| [01:17:23] | scorp007: | what can I do about it? |
| [01:18:10] | scorp007: | wagnerrp, I don't think so, how can I tell? |
| [01:18:43] | scorp007: | kormoc, I even tried adding "service mythtv-backend restart" in rc.local, but didn't seem to help |
| [01:18:45] | kormoc: | do you plug it into a usb port? |
| [01:18:53] | wagnerrp: | ... |
| [01:18:59] | scorp007: | kormoc, that would imply it's external, right? |
| [01:19:04] | kormoc: | yes |
| [01:19:08] | scorp007: | no, it's internal |
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| [01:19:34] | kormoc: | scorp007, try sleep 30; service mythtv-backend restart; |
| [01:19:36] | kormoc: | or something like that |
| [01:19:50] | scorp007: | 30 is in seconds, right? |
| [01:20:35] | scorp007: | it is, nvm |
| [01:21:25] | scorp007: | also, I uncommented the line to start mythwelcome in the session-settings file, and unchecked "auto start the frontend" in the control center, and when I did the latter, neither would auto start. |
| [01:21:33] | scorp007: | but without the latter, *both* would start. |
| [01:21:40] | scorp007: | when I only want the former. |
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| [01:24:23] | scorp007: | sleep 30 didn't seem to help in the rc.local... could it be something else perhaps? |
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| [01:26:58] | scorp007: | how can I tell if rc.local even ran? |
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| [02:39:10] | wagnerrp: | anyone notice that ohloh linecount and worth dropped by half? |
| [02:39:37] | kormoc: | oh noes! I should have sold earlier! |
| [02:40:17] | iamlindoro: | Something about the git switchover broke the linecount |
| [02:40:23] | iamlindoro: | if it reduced by half then it's right again |
| [02:41:31] | wagnerrp: | yeah, its down to 2.3M lines, which is more in line with what i got from 'wc' |
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| [03:14:50] | scorp007: | is mythshutdown -w <time> supposed to execute the set wake command? |
| [03:14:59] | scorp007: | because it doesn't look like it's doing anything. |
| [03:15:15] | scorp007: | (configured in mythwelcome that is) |
| [03:15:39] | wagnerrp: | its setting time the machine is to wake up in the motherboards nvram, through use of ACPI calls |
| [03:16:10] | scorp007: | then what is the point of the shell script in the mythwelcome config? |
| [03:16:27] | wagnerrp: | honestly... ive never set it up, i dont know how all to configure it |
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| [03:29:46] | wagnerrp: | hahahaha.... theyre bringing back a charlie's angels tv series this fall |
| [03:31:19] | [R]: | are they gonna be hot atleast? |
| [03:32:20] | wagnerrp: | just see that mentioned as a possible series next season |
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| [03:34:59] | [R]: | oh |
| [03:37:26] | wagnerrp: | ugh... |
| [03:37:36] | ** wagnerrp rewrites his socket storage structure yet again ** | |
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| [04:01:27] | Cyd: | LOL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnLKZmtd0-A – Go to 2:45, just random grabs the guys bananas and farts on them |
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| [04:04:17] | ** kormoc eyes Cyd ** | |
| [04:04:47] | nutron: | Ugh. My second pvr150 keeps locking up and creating zero length files. Nothing in dmesg, though it wasn't creating zero length files until I turned up the kbp/s on the recording profiles. Sounds like hardware to me, interrupts and the billions that are created :/ |
| [04:06:34] | wagnerrp: | Cyd: i want my 30 seconds back |
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| [04:07:17] | nutron: | I wonder do I still need to fix dsdt tables with newer kernels? broken acpi stuff? |
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| [04:17:05] | Junkbot: | ohai |
| [04:17:32] | Junkbot: | having some problems setting up mythtv on mini10 |
| [04:17:34] | Junkbot: | *dell |
| [04:20:13] | wagnerrp: | yeah, you dont want to use mythtv on a dell mini10xx |
| [04:22:12] | [R]: | it's the weirdest thing |
| [04:22:18] | [R]: | my hdpvr always has problems on nickelodeon |
| [04:22:23] | [R]: | stupid cable company |
| [04:22:46] | wagnerrp: | Junkbot: the mini10 line uses underpowered Atom processors |
| [04:22:58] | Junkbot: | wagnerrp: :( |
| [04:22:58] | wagnerrp: | and doesnt support hardware decode offload in mythtv |
| [04:23:08] | wagnerrp: | meaning the best they will be good for will be standard definition playback |
| [04:23:11] | Junkbot: | wagnerrp: i can't find any drivers |
| [04:23:12] | Junkbot: | :( |
| [04:23:30] | Junkbot: | wagnerrp: would you know where i can get there? |
| [04:23:33] | Junkbot: | &tgen |
| [04:23:36] | Junkbot: | *them |
| [04:24:08] | wagnerrp: | nearly any drivers you should need to use should be included in your kernel |
| [04:24:20] | Junkbot: | do you own a mini10? |
| [04:24:23] | wagnerrp: | no |
| [04:24:27] | Junkbot: | ok |
| [04:24:30] | wagnerrp: | just looked up the specs on the dell site |
| [04:24:36] | Junkbot: | ok |
| [04:24:54] | ** wagnerrp knows better than to buy Atom laptops with Intel graphics ** | |
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| [04:25:12] | Junkbot: | wagnerrp: got it for free |
| [04:25:17] | Junkbot: | well |
| [04:25:23] | Junkbot: | got it from a contest |
| [04:25:26] | Junkbot: | so yeah :( |
| [04:25:55] | Junkbot: | well i can see it in lsusb |
| [04:26:17] | Junkbot: | i'm not entirely sure what to do next to make it detectable by tv programs |
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| [04:28:54] | Cyd: | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ke7oeKd2CH4 |
| [04:30:04] | wagnerrp: | see what? what are you trying to do? |
| [04:30:28] | Junkbot: | the tv tuner |
| [04:30:47] | wagnerrp: | for what purpose? |
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| [04:31:01] | Junkbot: | watching tv? |
| [04:31:17] | wagnerrp: | within the context of mythtv, that system does not have enough power to watch digital broadcasts |
| [04:31:37] | Junkbot: | ok |
| [04:31:43] | Junkbot: | but out of the context of mythtv? |
| [04:31:48] | [R]: | scottie i need more power... i'm givein it all shes got captain! |
| [04:31:54] | Junkbot: | because it was able to do that quite reasonably on windows |
| [04:31:55] | Junkbot: | :( |
| [04:32:01] | wagnerrp: | out of the context is irrelevant, this is the mythtv help channel |
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| [04:32:16] | Junkbot: | then where can i get help out of the context? |
| [04:32:40] | wagnerrp: | #the-channel-of-your-distro, or #linuxtv |
| [04:33:01] | wagnerrp: | you MUST use a player that supports VAAPI |
| [04:33:23] | wagnerrp: | as the only way youre going to be able to decode digital broadcasts in real time is by offloading them to VAAPI |
| [04:33:27] | wagnerrp: | mythtv currently does not |
| [04:35:10] | kormoc: | Junkbot, the fact is you won't be able to watch tv on linux on that box as there are no linux drivers that support hardware decoding. You *won't* be able to use it under linux |
| [04:35:27] | wagnerrp: | kormoc: the NM10 doesnt do VAAPI? |
| [04:35:40] | kormoc: | wagnerrp, I didn't think it did? |
| [04:35:55] | Junkbot: | kormoc: ok ;_; |
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| [04:36:02] | wagnerrp: | i figured they were using the same powervr chip as the GMA500 |
| [04:36:33] | kormoc: | my understanding is they went extremely barebones on that one |
| [04:43:15] | kormoc: | wagnerrp, it's a X3100 |
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| [04:44:31] | Beirdo: | BOOOOO |
| [04:44:35] | wagnerrp: | so thats why all the NM10 boards still feature nvidia graphics? |
| [04:45:04] | wagnerrp: | so the things completely worthless on linux AND windows |
| [04:45:15] | Beirdo: | stupid find won't run right from buildbot... |
| [04:45:33] | wagnerrp: | the chips that dont have VAAPI dont do full offload on windows either |
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| [04:47:34] | wagnerrp: | 'all folders/files have 377 access' |
| [04:47:43] | kormoc: | yeah, it's a pretty worthless device |
| [04:47:46] | Beirdo: | Ahh, I think I have it this time |
| [04:47:48] | wagnerrp: | could you actually run a program without having read access to it? |
| [04:47:58] | Beirdo: | you need ; not \; |
| [04:48:10] | Beirdo: | the \ is for shell escaping |
| [04:48:16] | Beirdo: | duh |
| [04:50:32] | Beirdo: | wagnerrp: no, I don't think you can :) |
| [04:51:26] | kormoc: | well, not without breaking security |
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| [04:56:24] | wagnerrp: | "Not paying for comcast cable. But do get channels they have to send thru the wire, fcc thing i guess. Theres about 15 or them, includieng Hallmark channel and Discovery channel."... huh? |
| [04:57:22] | chelz: | anyone know if you can use vdpau on one card but display on another card? |
| [04:57:36] | wagnerrp: | chelz: not at this time |
| [04:57:39] | chelz: | nooo |
| [04:57:59] | [R]: | wagnerrp: clear qam |
| [04:58:18] | chelz: | on cards when they say "HDTV / S-Video Out" is it real s-video? or just using an s-video connector for component? |
| [04:58:18] | wagnerrp: | [R]: he doesnt get clear qam, he doesnt have a cable subscription |
| [04:58:28] | [R]: | wagnerrp: he might have cable internet |
| [04:58:32] | [R]: | wagnerrp: and they dont filter the digitals |
| [04:58:51] | wagnerrp: | do they actually let you do that? |
| [04:59:02] | wagnerrp: | phone co makes me have an active line with number to use DSL |
| [04:59:16] | [R]: | yoou can have cab le internet w/o cable tv subscription |
| [05:01:42] | sphery: | wagnerrp: so, what I said in the e-mail I just sent was, " what I left out of the e-mail I just sent was, |
| [05:02:24] | sphery: | wagnerrp: so, what I said in the e-mail I just sent was, "If you'd like to work on it, feel free to do so." What I left out of the e-mail I just sent was, "and I'll put things aside to review it when it's done." |
| [05:02:47] | sphery: | (sorry, keyboard/finger-placement issues on the first) |
| [05:03:31] | sphery: | that in reply to the "No intention to distract anyone! As for myself, though, I don't really have anything else "pressing" on my plate right now" |
| [05:03:49] | sphery: | on the bright side, if done right, it will be easy to review |
| [05:04:54] | sphery: | and then users can set it up to run on every delete event, then when they delete a playlist, it can run 30 times in 0.5s |
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| [05:27:05] | Beirdo: | ahhh, much better. Got a pile more switch ports now |
| [05:29:27] | Beirdo: | sometime I'll shift the cabling around to be more sane |
| [05:29:57] | Beirdo: | but not right now. Once Royal Pains finishes, I'll turn on the BluRay for the first time |
| [05:30:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [05:31:20] | ** Captain_Murdoch looks at the 15 link lights on his switch with 24+2 ports. ** | |
| [05:36:29] | sphery: | could put that thing outside in December and save stringing up decorations/lights |
| [05:37:39] | Captain_Murdoch: | should make a script that pings IPs in rapid succession real quick so I can make the lights look like the front of K.I.T.T. |
| [05:37:46] | Captain_Murdoch: | s/real quick// |
| [05:43:59] | Beirdo: | heheh |
| [05:44:25] | Beirdo: | come on BluRay player... finish your upgrade |
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| [05:48:37] | Beirdo: | Ommm, way too much information there |
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| [05:50:46] | Beirdo: | yay. Netflix on the big TV |
| [05:55:03] | Beirdo: | wonder if this thing does UPnP :) |
| [05:55:17] | Beirdo: | like I care that much :) |
| [05:57:42] | mianos: | jamu is not putting the coverart path in |
| [05:58:43] | kormoc: | mianos, congratulations? |
| [05:59:54] | mianos: | too much messing witht he script and not enough time in myth I think |
| [06:00:34] | mianos: | now to work out what is wrong |
| [06:01:01] | mianos: | the videometadata 'coverfile' is udpated with a file only by jamu |
| [06:01:09] | mianos: | but myth needs a full path |
| [06:01:16] | mianos: | that's why it fails to open |
| [06:01:48] | mianos: | so, is there a setting in myth to prepend a directory? or is jamu meant to add it? |
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| [06:10:25] | mianos: | anyone have any ideas? does the coverfile record in your videometadata have full paths? |
| [06:10:59] | wagnerrp: | no, it is a path relative to the base of the storage group |
| [06:11:35] | mianos: | when I update it manually in myth with the 'i' and edit |
| [06:11:42] | mianos: | it stuck the full path in |
| [06:11:54] | wagnerrp: | then you arent using storage groups |
| [06:12:11] | mianos: | no |
| [06:12:25] | mianos: | I only have one machine and my san is a SAN |
| [06:12:39] | mianos: | it's not a linux machine, it's an old HP |
| [06:13:00] | wagnerrp: | what does manufacturer have to do with being a linux machine? |
| [06:13:23] | mianos: | it can't run a mythbackend |
| [06:13:42] | mianos: | so I have to mount it using NFS |
| [06:13:50] | wagnerrp: | do you have any backend running anywhere? |
| [06:13:56] | mianos: | yes on the local machine |
| [06:13:58] | mianos: | the HTPC |
| [06:14:14] | mianos: | so yourthink coverart needs storage groups to work at all? |
| [06:14:17] | wagnerrp: | so you mount the videos on the HTPC, and use storage groups |
| [06:14:22] | mianos: | I can do that I guess |
| [06:14:29] | wagnerrp: | you can still mount the folders on your local machine |
| [06:14:31] | mianos: | I thoygh that was not a legal config |
| [06:14:33] | mianos: | but sure |
| [06:14:47] | wagnerrp: | but mythvideo will know how to find them locally through storage groups |
| [06:14:56] | wagnerrp: | rather than through the local folder defines |
| [06:14:58] | mianos: | yes I expected so |
| [06:15:11] | mianos: | somegoe jamu knows they are net mounts |
| [06:15:19] | mianos: | so I expected myth to complain similarly |
| [06:15:23] | mianos: | so I'll put this on hold |
| [06:15:25] | wagnerrp: | jamu must be run on the backend |
| [06:15:32] | mianos: | and move the storage to stroage groups |
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| [06:16:33] | wagnerrp: | if this is mythvideo, you dont need jamu anyway |
| [06:16:56] | mianos: | yes mythvideo |
| [06:17:27] | mianos: | I'm just trying to work out how to get covers |
| [06:17:30] | wagnerrp: | mythvideo in 0.24 now supports bulk metadata grabbing |
| [06:17:44] | wagnerrp: | there is no need to use jamu for mythvideo |
| [06:17:47] | mianos: | I'm not sure where that is documented |
| [06:17:59] | wagnerrp: | http://mythtv.org/wiki/MythVideo |
| [06:18:17] | mianos: | oh, ise the I key on each video? |
| [06:18:20] | mianos: | and edit it |
| [06:18:31] | wagnerrp: | no, mythtv in 0.24 supports bulk grabbing |
| [06:18:32] | mianos: | As of .24, MythVideo can (and will, by default) automatically attempt to grab all metadata for items as they are inserted into the library. The default name-matching algorithm is set to a low tolerance to prevent false positives as much as possible, so some items may need a manual query if there are multiple items of the same name or multiple very closely named items. |
| [06:18:36] | mianos: | yes I read that |
| [06:18:43] | mianos: | low tolerance is very low |
| [06:18:43] | wagnerrp: | it will process any video not previously processed |
| [06:18:58] | mianos: | Fantasia.mkv |
| [06:19:03] | mianos: | won't get much useful |
| [06:19:15] | wagnerrp: | it will match with the movie 'Fantasia' |
| [06:19:16] | mianos: | but wait, I'll change the setup to storage groups first |
| [06:19:29] | mianos: | if it did, I'd have the cover art |
| [06:19:41] | mianos: | it does not |
| [06:19:48] | mianos: | .24+fixes from ubuntu |
| [06:19:53] | wagnerrp: | it will pull information for this movie... http://www.themoviedb.org/movie/756 |
| [06:19:55] | mianos: | but anyway I'mnot all that worried |
| [06:19:58] | mianos: | no work |
| [06:20:14] | mianos: | jamu is almost going now |
| [06:21:02] | mianos: | of course I'd rather the built in, as my first experience with the jamu script was a bug, known and not in my dist |
| [06:21:21] | mianos: | UTF8 error on directories specified as ignored |
| [06:21:41] | wagnerrp: | utf in python is just one big error |
| [06:22:28] | mianos: | never used itmyself, and I've done quite a bit of python in the last few years |
| [06:22:46] | mianos: | python is a nice language but things can be flakey |
| [06:23:18] | wagnerrp: | hopefully 3.x will be better with utf |
| [06:25:07] | mianos: | I'm sure it is |
| [06:25:23] | mianos: | but nothing i ever use works with 3.X |
| [06:25:27] | mianos: | libraries and such |
| [06:25:41] | wagnerrp: | yeah, everything has to be reworked |
| [06:25:47] | wagnerrp: | its effectively a new language |
| [06:26:08] | kormoc: | With sane scoping? |
| [06:26:17] | mianos: | the 'print' gone was enough to shock me back to 2.7 :) |
| [06:26:28] | wagnerrp: | print isnt gone |
| [06:26:38] | mianos: | even though that 'print' thing is such a hacky feature |
| [06:26:43] | wagnerrp: | print is just a function, rather than a statement |
| [06:26:48] | mianos: | ok print to print( |
| [06:26:51] | mianos: | yer |
| [06:27:00] | mianos: | but I had a lot of the old style hacked ones |
| [06:27:04] | mianos: | never did that again |
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| [06:45:50] | mianos: | ok storage in use |
| [06:46:04] | mianos: | all artis updated from eixtsing metadata put in there by jamu |
| [06:46:20] | mianos: | the advice: metadata does not work without storage groups |
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| [06:46:27] | mianos: | coverart I mean |
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| [07:04:16] | nutron: | Ooooh! Coffee! |
| [07:04:25] | ** nutron paws at his mug ** | |
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| [07:28:01] | scorp007: | what do people recommend as a space efficient format to store many recordings on harddisk? Ideally with good quality. |
| [07:28:39] | wagnerrp: | mpeg2 |
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| [07:30:52] | Beirdo: | or H.264... |
| [07:31:02] | wagnerrp: | depends on what recorded it |
| [07:31:12] | Beirdo: | true dat :) |
| [07:31:19] | wagnerrp: | a digital tuner, id store it as mpeg2 |
| [07:31:27] | wagnerrp: | an HDPVR, id store it as h264 |
| [07:31:31] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [07:31:47] | Beirdo: | sounds familiar :) |
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| [07:37:21] | kormoc: | I think 'as a file' is the best answer |
| [07:37:32] | kormoc: | files are pretty space efficient |
| [07:37:42] | Beirdo: | kormoc: oooh, I like that answer |
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| [07:38:16] | ** wagnerrp prefers storing the frames on individual pages ** | |
| [07:38:24] | wagnerrp: | flipbook tv ftw! |
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| [07:41:44] | scorp007: | is there a guide to have mythtv automatically convert recordings to h264 after they've completed recording? |
| [07:41:55] | scorp007: | possibly with the transcode feature? |
| [07:41:58] | wagnerrp: | why would you want to? |
| [07:42:15] | scorp007: | well, to save me having to do it manually? |
| [07:42:28] | Beirdo: | be simpler to buy more disk and just leave the recordings alone |
| [07:42:56] | scorp007: | and just leave the untouched .mpg recorded files as they are? |
| [07:43:04] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [07:43:13] | scorp007: | is that what you do? |
| [07:43:14] | Beirdo: | why waste hours of CPU time? |
| [07:43:22] | wagnerrp: | s/hours/days/ |
| [07:43:32] | scorp007: | true |
| [07:43:36] | Beirdo: | hours per show ;) |
| [07:44:04] | Beirdo: | yeah, it's not worth it for general recordings. The very few that you want to keep forever, I could see doing it |
| [07:44:08] | wagnerrp: | last time i tried doing a proper transcode to h264 was on my current 2.8GHz Core2Duo |
| [07:44:10] | Cyd: | beirdo |
| [07:44:11] | Cyd: | is a weirdo |
| [07:44:12] | Cyd: | haahah |
| [07:44:13] | Cyd: | AH |
| [07:44:14] | Cyd: | AHAH |
| [07:44:31] | scorp007: | what kind of resolution is 1440x1080? |
| [07:44:34] | wagnerrp: | transcoding to 6mbps h264, 1080p24 took me 6.5hrs for a 22 minute show |
| [07:44:49] | wagnerrp: | thats 13 hours of CPU time for 22 minutes of video |
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| [07:45:10] | scorp007: | wagnerrp, what cpu? |
| [07:45:17] | wagnerrp: | 2.8GHz Core2Duo |
| [07:45:24] | scorp007: | ah, right |
| [07:45:29] | scorp007: | that is indeed long |
| [07:45:43] | Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +o Beirdo | |
| [07:45:54] | ** nutron snickers ** | |
| [07:45:55] | Beirdo: | Cyd: behave, please |
| [07:45:57] | wagnerrp: | the batter steps up to the playte |
| [07:46:07] | Cyd: | lol |
| [07:46:11] | wagnerrp: | the catcher motions |
| [07:46:15] | Cyd: | i love how everyone is starting to do that on IRC |
| [07:46:17] | wagnerrp: | the pitcher doesnt seem happy |
| [07:46:18] | Cyd: | the new fad |
| [07:46:24] | wagnerrp: | new fad? |
| [07:46:27] | Cyd: | yes |
| [07:46:32] | wagnerrp: | whats a new fad? |
| [07:46:32] | Cyd: | regular user goes into phonebooth and turns into op |
| [07:46:51] | Cyd: | then they say something like |
| [07:46:54] | Cyd: | "WATCH IT" |
| [07:47:09] | wagnerrp: | thats the way its been since i started using IRC in the 90s |
| [07:47:14] | Cyd: | nah |
| [07:47:15] | scorp007: | what format are the raw .mpg files in that mythtv produces? |
| [07:47:21] | Beirdo: | Maybe it's a function of your behavior that it seems to follow you everywhere |
| [07:47:27] | wagnerrp: | scorp007: theyre mpegs |
| [07:47:34] | Cyd: | that doesnt make sense |
| [07:47:42] | scorp007: | so that's just uncompressed video data? |
| [07:48:03] | wagnerrp: | mpegs? |
| [07:48:06] | wagnerrp: | no |
| [07:48:11] | wagnerrp: | thats very much compressed |
| [07:48:12] | nutron: | mpeg is compressed, think of mpeg as jpeg, but m instead of j |
| [07:48:16] | nutron: | =) |
| [07:48:22] | scorp007: | oh, right. They still seem huge. |
| [07:48:32] | scorp007: | is 1440 x 1080 a standard size? |
| [07:48:37] | wagnerrp: | uncompressed 1080i60 would be on the order of 400MB/s |
| [07:48:56] | Beirdo: | Cyd: anyways, be on your best behavior, or you will have to find another channel to delight with your silliness. |
| [07:49:07] | nutron: | So I've decided that it's myth that hurts my encoder card, puts it in some state that ... it becomes unresponsive. No dmesg output.. yeah that's it. I blame myth :P |
| [07:49:10] | Beirdo: | scorp007: it is one of the HD sizes, IIRC |
| [07:49:10] | kormoc: | The most odd thing about cyd is he's not a myth user nor has any interest in myth |
| [07:49:24] | Cyd: | sorry Beirdo |
| [07:49:28] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: i find it amusing that everyone he has decided to pester is an op |
| [07:49:29] | kormoc: | he just showed up like a stray dog and stuck around |
| [07:49:41] | Beirdo: | wagnerrp: yeah, I find that interesting too |
| [07:49:55] | Cyd: | hey Beirdo as a token of my apology |
| [07:50:00] | Cyd: | i can find you another dick to suck? |
| [07:50:11] | Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +o kormoc | |
| [07:50:11] | Beirdo: | Bye, luser. |
| [07:50:14] | Mode for #mythtv-users by kormoc!~kormoc@mythtv/developer/kormoc : +b *!*zinc@65.92.103.* | |
| [07:50:14] | Cyd has been kicked from #mythtv-users by kormoc!~kormoc@mythtv/developer/kormoc (Cyd) | |
| [07:50:18] | Beirdo: | hehhe |
| [07:50:19] | wagnerrp: | the pitcher finds a pitch he likes |
| [07:50:23] | Beirdo: | you beat me to it :) |
| [07:50:23] | wagnerrp: | he winds up |
| [07:50:25] | wagnerrp: | he throws |
| [07:50:32] | scorp007: | Beirdo, I have like maybe 10–15 mins so far of a show in that size, and it's around 1.8 GB already. |
| [07:50:32] | kormoc: | I've been waiting for days |
| [07:50:38] | scorp007: | I can only imagine what an hour would be like. |
| [07:50:52] | Mode for #mythtv-users by Beirdo!~gjhurlbu@mythtv/developer/beirdo : -o Beirdo | |
| [07:50:54] | wagnerrp: | scorp007: probably about 4x that |
| [07:50:59] | Mode for #mythtv-users by kormoc!~kormoc@mythtv/developer/kormoc : -o kormoc | |
| [07:51:10] | Beirdo: | scorp007: sounds in line with some of my HD recordings |
| [07:51:13] | scorp007: | and that's "compressed" ? |
| [07:51:18] | Beirdo: | very much so |
| [07:51:21] | wagnerrp: | very much so |
| [07:51:26] | Beirdo: | take out your calculator |
| [07:51:37] | scorp007: | would h264 do any better a job? |
| [07:51:49] | wagnerrp: | about 2–3x better, yes |
| [07:51:50] | Beirdo: | 1440*1080*50*3 (assuming you are in PAL-land) |
| [07:51:52] | kormoc: | sure, take forever to do it, but sure |
| [07:52:06] | scorp007: | why *50 ? |
| [07:52:07] | Beirdo: | and that's in bytes/s uncompressed |
| [07:52:14] | wagnerrp: | 50 fps |
| [07:52:16] | Beirdo: | 50 frames per second |
| [07:52:23] | scorp007: | is that how high pal is?! |
| [07:52:23] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: its actually half that, twice |
| [07:52:31] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [07:52:36] | wagnerrp: | its interlaced, and its only 12bpp |
| [07:53:10] | Beirdo: | heh, yeah true. |
| [07:53:14] | wagnerrp: | still, youre looking at around 450mbps of raw video data |
| [07:53:17] | Beirdo: | I'm getting tired |
| [07:53:25] | wagnerrp: | compared to maybe 15mbps of mpeg2 |
| [07:53:31] | scorp007: | oh ok |
| [07:53:51] | scorp007: | so you must need many TBs of diskspace to hold a reasonable amount of recordings. |
| [07:53:59] | kormoc: | depends |
| [07:54:03] | scorp007: | I can imagine how much 1 season of a show would take... |
| [07:54:05] | kormoc: | I find 1tb is plenty for me |
| [07:54:13] | wagnerrp: | and a good reprocessing, denoising, deinterlacing, transcoding... might get you down to 5mbps before you really start to run into quality loss |
| [07:54:30] | scorp007: | wagnerrp, yeah, but for high cpu cost :/ |
| [07:54:39] | wagnerrp: | very high |
| [07:55:30] | kormoc: | scorp007, my hdpvr recordings are around 4.5 gigs per hour, that gets me a tad over 225 hours of shows. Plenty IMHO |
| [07:56:29] | scorp007: | yep. I'll need to probably get a new hdd for my pvr. Right now it's 250 GB. I have to offload it all to my workstation, which has a bigger hd. |
| [07:56:46] | scorp007: | any reason why VLC doesn't display the current/end times for mythtv mpgs? |
| [07:56:53] | scorp007: | just says 0:00/0:00 |
| [07:56:58] | wagnerrp: | 2TB hard drives are readily available for under $100 over here |
| [07:57:04] | scorp007: | as though it doesn't have any length information... |
| [07:57:25] | scorp007: | wagnerrp, yep, this pvr hdd is pretty old |
| [07:57:31] | ** Beirdo shrugs ** | |
| [07:57:50] | scorp007: | what player you guys use to play recorded mpgs? |
| [07:57:59] | wagnerrp: | mythfrontend |
| [07:58:55] | Beirdo: | and occasionally, a UPnP client box |
| [07:59:18] | nutron: | Beirdo: any suggestions on a upnp client? |
| [07:59:40] | scorp007: | Beirdo, what software does the client box use to play? |
| [08:00:07] | Beirdo: | nutron: my WD TV Live Plus does really well |
| [08:00:17] | Beirdo: | scorp007: whatever code they run. |
| [08:00:28] | wagnerrp: | scorp007: it has a built in firmware, not any sort of software than can be updated or replaced |
| [08:00:53] | scorp007: | oh |
| [08:00:56] | Beirdo: | except with other firmware from the manufacturer, usually |
| [08:01:49] | nutron: | Beirdo: ahh along the same lines as the patriot box office |
| [08:01:50] | nutron: | cool |
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| [08:02:53] | Beirdo: | so far, it's played everything I've thrown at it from mythtv without an issue |
| [08:03:26] | Beirdo: | right up to 1080i H.264, which knocks my TV's built-in UPnP player right on its butt |
| [08:04:02] | nutron: | nice |
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| [08:04:37] | nutron: | Well I'm only looking for one b/c I don't want to spend money on the hardware to do another front end, 3 or maybe 4 are enough. :) |
| [08:04:52] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [08:05:02] | Beirdo: | it was $99 of amazon |
| [08:05:11] | nutron: | Any hints on zero byte hung hauppauge cards in the list? I've been searching for infos. |
| [08:05:36] | nutron: | Ahh good 'ol amazon :) Everytime I shop there, I end up getting some third party junk like on ebay. |
| [08:05:38] | Beirdo: | still like the frontend better, but I don't have a frontend in the bedroom at this time |
| [08:05:59] | nutron: | does the wd play music too? |
| [08:06:01] | Beirdo: | umm, I bought it FROM Amazon |
| [08:06:08] | Beirdo: | not some fool selling on there |
| [08:06:16] | Beirdo: | I think so, but I've never tried |
| [08:06:58] | nutron: | ok |
| [08:07:45] | nutron: | wow watching the server log for postfix... my email server sure says go ____ yourself a lot... especially to ips coming from korea/china |
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| [08:21:40] | kormoc: | nutron, you have the worst luck |
| [08:25:00] | nutron: | kormoc: well, what can I do? :) |
| [08:26:47] | nutron: | It's done it twice, I haven't checked to see if LiveTV still works, I forgot to do that, but I do believe the card is busy doing nothing in some state. Though I think I can rule hardware out since the driver seems to think it's still there, no dmesg output and... well I dunno. Though both times it's been the same tuner. So it could be an interrupt issue with whichever other device its sharing it with. |
| [08:26:57] | nutron: | Ack, heh. I'm so long winded. |
| [08:28:12] | nutron: | Or, it could be VBI |
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| [08:37:59] | Beirdo: | anyways, I think it's time for bed here |
| [08:38:12] | kormoc: | Wimp! It's only 12:40! |
| [08:38:19] | nutron: | g'night Beirdo |
| [08:38:29] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [08:38:32] | nutron: | What about the flying cows and beer? |
| [08:38:36] | Beirdo: | yeah, I'm wimpy tonight |
| [08:38:57] | Beirdo: | I have a growler of nice IPA ready for tomorrow though |
| [08:40:35] | kormoc: | That's no good cause Tomorrow's Tomorrow is a work day |
| [08:40:53] | wagnerrp: | IPA? |
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| [08:41:28] | Beirdo: | yes, IPA |
| [08:41:37] | Beirdo: | yummy hoppy beer |
| [08:41:58] | Beirdo: | just gotta wait for this show to end, and then I go sleep |
| [08:42:30] | nutron: | hmm so far 6 zero-byte complaints and no real answers. Thanks google! |
| [08:43:45] | nutron: | google's supposed to answer all of my questions! It's why I put up with the ads all over the interweb. |
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| [09:04:10] | chelz: | what kind of cpu would i need to be re-encoding h264 from mpeg2 in the background while watching say xvid stuff and have no stutter or anything like that? |
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| [09:05:49] | scorp007: | chelz, well, presumably you can do it with any decent cpu, as long as you renice the encoding process. |
| [09:06:01] | scorp007: | so it has lower priority than the xvid decoder. |
| [09:06:39] | kormoc: | you'd have to mess with the io schedulers and use a tickless kernel with the realtime enhancements |
| [09:07:01] | kormoc: | chelz, that said, my dual quad core xeon box handles it semi-okay, but it's only 8 2.8ghz cores |
| [09:07:50] | sid3windr: | only 8 2.8 ghz cores.. :| |
| [09:07:52] | chelz: | hah |
| [09:08:03] | chelz: | yeah i think just a dualcore anything would do fine with a proper nice |
| [09:08:15] | chelz: | http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishD . . . ber=13355311 |
| [09:08:20] | chelz: | that's my planned box so far |
| [09:08:29] | kormoc: | sid3windr, you can get 12 core cpus now and run them on a quad board |
| [09:08:40] | sid3windr: | obviously ;) |
| [09:08:43] | chelz: | only i was hoping for like 500–600$ and i'm quite a bit over, so i'm looking at stuff to cut, and i think i'll have to go for a lesser cpu |
| [09:09:04] | kormoc: | chelz, my mini can decode h264 for commflagging well enough but I wouldn't encode on it while doing anything |
| [09:09:20] | kormoc: | chelz, and personally, I'd go with a better GPU |
| [09:10:27] | chelz: | kormoc: that gpu has all these weird specific things i need/want. low profile, fanless, s-video and supports vdpau |
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| [09:11:03] | sid3windr: | isnt $50 expensive for a 8400 :o |
| [09:11:13] | chelz: | i think it'll be fine decoding h264 and mpeg2 with vdpau, just most of the stuff i watch besides those are xvid |
| [09:11:16] | nutron: | chelz: that whole list seems expensive :s |
| [09:11:29] | kormoc: | chelz, yeah, but it doesn't support VC1 decoding, etc, so your VDPAU is pretty gimped |
| [09:12:06] | chelz: | kormoc: well there are two kinds of 8400 apparently, the original only did vp2 but the newer does vp3, this might be vp3. i'm only looking for h264 really though |
| [09:12:41] | chelz: | yeah i'd appreciate any comments/suggestions people have. just that videocard is kind of set. |
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| [09:18:48] | nutron: | wait... what? newegg's actually pricing things cheaper on the canadian site... |
| [09:19:11] | nutron: | your evga card is .50 cheaper here :/ plus an extra $4.00 shipping because it's shipped from the US anyway. |
| [09:20:04] | nutron: | chelz: I'd shop a bit on prices before you commit, unfortunately newegg doesn't price match, but I find them expensive here in Canada in comparison. |
| [09:20:46] | nutron: | bah ncixus doesn't do pricematching |
| [09:20:59] | ** kormoc raises an eyebrow ** | |
| [09:21:06] | kormoc: | Newegg is pretty good on our side |
| [09:21:20] | chelz: | nutron: oh yeah i'm going to shop around |
| [09:21:23] | nutron: | I beat their prices everytime I go shopping. |
| [09:21:23] | kormoc: | zipzoomfly sometimes has them beat, but it's not that often |
| [09:21:29] | chelz: | just looking for parts that work together and getting a ballpark price |
| [09:21:43] | chelz: | yeah last thing i built was with parts from newegg and zipzoomfly, then a bunch of misc retailers |
| [09:21:50] | nutron: | I use the shopping sites, pricematch and usually save about 10 – 20% over newegg |
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| [09:23:10] | kormoc: | I only shop at places I trust and there's not a lot of price difference among them |
| [09:23:29] | kormoc: | got burned too bad by the fly by night el-cheapo shops before |
| [09:24:27] | nutron: | aye, though I do the same, I just shop in one place and pricematch to the other el-cheapo places |
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| [10:59:26] | hashbang: | morning all |
| [10:59:43] | hashbang: | justinh: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Mythcommflag-wrapper # you might be interested in this script wot I wrote. |
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| [11:56:31] | Stevezau: | I'm having troubles trying to find a usb ir receiver in Aus(sydney).. any chance someone here is from aus that knows where i can buy one? :D |
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| [12:14:04] | dewman: | where would i find a list of the current fixes? IE this last update that I just received is g06c8142, i checked the wiki page but it seems that the update is not listed. Is that a ubuntu version number? |
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| [12:31:18] | stuartm: | https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/g06c8142 |
| [12:32:05] | stuartm: | yeah, that's gibberish |
| [12:33:00] | stuartm: | dewman: https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commits/fixes%2F0.24 |
| [12:33:07] | stuartm: | those are the commits to the 0.24 branch |
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| [15:07:36] | htpc: | how do I get mythtranscode --mpeg to run automatically with every recording? |
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| [15:35:30] | tank-man: | htpc, you can create a user job that does it |
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| [16:08:55] | wagnerrp: | htpc, tank-man: doing a lossless transcode with --mpeg doesnt do anything until you define a cutlist, which must be defined manually, you cannot use the mythcommflag skiplist as-is |
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| [16:10:53] | tank-man: | you can copy the skip list to the cut list as is if you trust the comm flag process |
| [16:11:32] | tank-man: | and i just read his question as just wanting to run a command after recording :) (didnt think about what the command did) |
| [16:11:38] | wagnerrp: | which you really shouldnt, because even the people who wrote it dont trust it enough for that kind of operation |
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| [16:47:25] | stuartm: | actually it's not true that a lossless transcode does nothing without a cutlist, it strips subtitle, additional audio and data streams so it can save a decent amount of space |
| [16:48:10] | stuartm: | htpc: just enabled auto-transcoding with a lossless profile, that's already a built in facility |
| [16:48:28] | stuartm: | you don't need a user job |
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| [16:58:40] | htpc: | stuartm: How do I enable autotranscoding? Is it with the backend setup checkbox "Run Transcode Jobs before Auto-Commercial Flagging"? because I only needed to transcode, not commercial flag. |
| [16:58:56] | wagnerrp: | htpc: its enabled per recording rule |
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| [17:00:01] | htpc: | wagnerrp: there is no way to automatically enable it for every recording? |
| [17:01:01] | xtort-: | yes, in the frontend settings you can set default recording options |
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| [17:02:29] | htpc: | xtort: I hadn't even checked the frontend, thanks! |
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| [17:07:58] | xtort-: | np, i didnt either for a while, didn't expect it to be there |
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| [17:15:31] | Captain_Murdoch: | htpc, you have to enable it in 2 places. on the recording rule (ie for each show you want to transcode) and on the recording profile (ie, to tell it which tuners it should transcode for). there's a also a default setting that is used for new scheduled recordings. that's in the frontend general settings area under the JobQueue page. "run transcode" |
| [17:18:58] | stuartm: | nice, simple and intuitive |
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| [18:02:20] | mattwj2002: | hi guys |
| [18:02:29] | mattwj2002: | why does my windows remote lock up? |
| [18:02:31] | mattwj2002: | :( |
| [18:03:06] | [R]: | your what? |
| [18:03:48] | mattwj2002: | mythtv or boxee it doesn't matter |
| [18:03:56] | [R]: | what? |
| [18:04:35] | mattwj2002: | I have a rc6 remote for my mythtv frontend |
| [18:04:41] | mattwj2002: | it just randomly stops working |
| [18:05:03] | mattwj2002: | the only way to get it to work for a while is a system reboot any idea how to fix this? |
| [18:05:06] | [R]: | sounds like an lirc issue |
| [18:05:47] | wagnerrp: | can you unload and reload the kernel module instead? |
| [18:06:53] | mattwj2002: | which module is it? |
| [18:07:24] | mattwj2002: | ir_lirc_codec, lirc_dev, or ir_core |
| [18:07:25] | mattwj2002: | ? |
| [18:07:55] | wagnerrp: | mceusb |
| [18:11:14] | mattwj2002: | dang it |
| [18:11:20] | mattwj2002: | it won't let me remove it |
| [18:11:21] | mattwj2002: | :( |
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| [18:11:34] | wagnerrp: | because lircd is still running |
| [18:12:53] | mattwj2002: | I just stopped it and it still won't |
| [18:13:02] | mattwj2002: | let me restart and try again |
| [18:15:03] | appamatto: | Hello, is there something I'm missing with regard to CC? |
| [18:15:25] | appamatto: | Do I do anything besides just turning it on via my TV? |
| [18:15:40] | [R]: | appamatto: thats not going to do antying |
| [18:15:52] | [R]: | appamatto: you nee dto make sure whatever you are using to capture, will capture the cc |
| [18:15:56] | [R]: | than you need ot turn on cc in myth |
| [18:16:01] | appamatto: | okay |
| [18:16:58] | appamatto: | Any hints as to where the CC setting in myth is? |
| [18:17:06] | appamatto: | (frontend, backend?) |
| [18:17:38] | [R]: | frontend... |
| [18:17:43] | [R]: | why would it have antyhign to do with the backend/ |
| [18:17:54] | appamatto: | I have no idea |
| [18:19:10] | appamatto: | I don't see any CC settings |
| [18:19:34] | [R]: | mayube you should be reading the doucmentation |
| [18:19:38] | [R]: | cuz theres tons of em |
| [18:20:01] | stuartm: | appamatto: during playback MENU > SUBTITLES > |
| [18:20:15] | stuartm: | there is a setting to always show subtitles |
| [18:20:20] | stuartm: | in the frontend settings |
| [18:20:38] | stuartm: | or just press T during playback |
| [18:21:31] | appamatto: | Ah okay, it says no captions, so I guess my backend wasn't configured properly |
| [18:21:47] | appamatto: | I'll check it out later |
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| [18:39:50] | chrisleith: | hello, anybody around? |
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| [18:41:21] | wagnerrp: | guess not |
| [18:41:35] | [R]: | haha |
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| [18:47:21] | InnerFIRE_: | i think ive configured my 950q sucessfully but I onnly get 2 or 3 channels. can someone help me |
| [18:47:50] | wagnerrp: | what half are you trying to use? |
| [18:48:40] | InnerFIRE_: | what do u mean? |
| [18:48:42] | [R]: | cola flavored sour candy... what will they think of next |
| [18:48:56] | wagnerrp: | that card operates in both digital and analog mode, which half? |
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| [18:54:52] | InnerFIRE_: | digital |
| [18:55:06] | InnerFIRE_: | i have a comcast motorola dvr box going to it |
| [18:55:07] | wagnerrp: | broadcast or cable? |
| [18:55:20] | wagnerrp: | erm... doesnt work that way |
| [18:55:32] | InnerFIRE_: | no? |
| [18:55:33] | wagnerrp: | cable boxes do not have digital modulators |
| [18:55:46] | wagnerrp: | they do not produce a signal that can be captured by a digital tuner |
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| [18:56:02] | wagnerrp: | if you are getting anything, then you are getting some pass through signal on the cable line |
| [18:56:02] | InnerFIRE_: | even this hd box i have? |
| [18:56:16] | InnerFIRE_: | so what do i do? |
| [18:56:35] | wagnerrp: | plug the card directly into the cable line and record whatever you can find unencrypted |
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| [18:56:49] | wagnerrp: | or buy a new tuner with proper analog support, to capture video from the cable box |
| [18:58:17] | JEDIDIAH__: | cola candies? sounds like root beer candies. very old school. |
| [18:59:25] | [R]: | JEDIDIAH__: but its sour, so covered in sugar |
| [19:00:24] | wagnerrp: | i misread that line at first |
| [19:00:31] | wagnerrp: | i thought you said 'covered in anger' |
| [19:00:39] | [R]: | lol |
| [19:01:30] | [R]: | and then they have jelly beans that taste like cotton candy |
| [19:01:33] | InnerFIRE_: | ok, ill try that and reconfigure. so i pretty much just need to send this box back to comcast is what you're saying? |
| [19:01:46] | wagnerrp: | does the box have a firewire port? |
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| [19:02:30] | wagnerrp: | http://mythtv.org/wiki/Recording_Digital_Cable |
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| [19:04:08] | InnerFIRE_: | yes, it does. I have like... 6 tuners and this 950 is the only one that works with ubuntu lol |
| [19:04:22] | InnerFIRE_: | all my others are ati tv wonders |
| [19:04:40] | InnerFIRE_: | brb, let me reconfigure myth |
| [19:04:47] | wagnerrp: | if the box has a firewire port, you can use that to capture off of it |
| [19:04:53] | wagnerrp: | no need for any tuner card |
| [19:04:59] | InnerFIRE_: | after the setup.. since im not using the box, will i get all 200 + channels? |
| [19:05:28] | wagnerrp: | likely not |
| [19:05:40] | wagnerrp: | you may, but its up to the cableco what they mark as copy freely |
| [19:06:07] | wagnerrp: | authorized devices can access any subscribed content over the firewire port |
| [19:06:16] | wagnerrp: | but mythtv is not an authorized device |
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| [19:06:36] | wagnerrp: | so the cable box will only allow it to access those shows the cableco has not marked to be protected by DRM |
| [19:07:06] | wagnerrp: | you may get everything, you may get nothing... youll likely end up with something in between |
| [19:07:28] | wagnerrp: | at the very least, it is generally a more reliable way to change channels than an IR blaster, and then you can use analog capture off a PVR-150 or HDPVR |
| [19:07:48] | InnerFIRE_: | let me try the way u said before and ill go from there. wish i could just use wmc in virtualbox but thats not recognizing card either. |
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| [19:09:05] | InnerFIRE_: | atsc channel #, timed out, no signal |
| [19:09:26] | trumee: | This might be dumb question. But what is the bitrate of a radio stream on DVB-S? |
| [19:09:51] | trumee: | audio only radio stream coming through satellite. |
| [19:10:08] | wagnerrp: | likely somewhere under 256kbps |
| [19:10:38] | trumee: | wagnerrp: thanks |
| [19:12:37] | wagnerrp: | InnerFIRE_: if you connect the tuner card directly to the cable line, and scan for QAM-256 channels using the cable channel list, this site will list the channels you are likely to get... http://www.silicondust.com/support/channels/ |
| [19:14:20] | [R]: | wow, it looks like cox finally put all the channel numbers and callsigns into the QAM chanels |
| [19:14:50] | wagnerrp: | are you looking at a scan or the SD lineup? |
| [19:15:05] | [R]: | sd |
| [19:15:11] | [R]: | are they lyin to me? |
| [19:15:16] | wagnerrp: | the local broadcast channels are likely named |
| [19:15:24] | wagnerrp: | everthing else is probably user generated |
| [19:16:06] | [R]: | i should wakeup my backedn and scan |
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| [19:38:22] | Gibby: | !seen jya |
| [19:38:22] | MythLogBot: | jya is here and has been idle for 1 day 8 hours 27 minutes 48 seconds |
| [19:43:26] | Shadow__X: | sphery: are you still thinking about setting up an automatic os x frontend compile box? |
| [19:44:31] | appamatto: | I'm trying to edit the ivtv module config for mythbuntu |
| [19:44:57] | Shadow__X: | sphery: also, hey |
| [19:46:14] | appamatto: | Is this necessary in recent mythtv versions? |
| [19:46:49] | appamatto: | I'm able to turn cc1 and cc3 on, but nothing shows up |
| [19:46:59] | appamatto: | So I'm guessing it is an IVTV problem |
| [19:47:50] | sphery: | Shadow__X: you must be thinking of someone else |
| [19:48:01] | sphery: | I think stuarta was considering it |
| [19:49:41] | wagnerrp: | Shadow__X: yeah, stuarta and bei rdo were intended to do so yesterday, but stuarta ended up busy with other duties |
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| [19:53:15] | appamatto: | hmm, not seeing anything in the logs about cc failing |
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| [19:53:43] | jya: | Gibby: yes? |
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| [19:58:24] | Wicked: | anyone in here familiar with fios? tomorrow verizon is coming in to hook our fios up and im curious as to what stb box im most likely to get...and whats the best way to get it all hooked up. Right now i have comcast SD and use a pvr-150 via svideo to record from my SA stb. I dont have hdpvr or any card capable of capturing hd stuff yet....so for the mean time i will only be doing SD stuff from fios. |
| [19:58:24] | Wicked: | Id like to have as little downtime as possible so im trying to get everything covered today so ill have a good idea of what needs to be done. |
| [19:58:25] | Shadow__X: | sphery: oh sorry about that |
| [19:58:41] | sphery: | heh, no problem--I was here, on the computer, anyway |
| [19:58:54] | Shadow__X: | wagnerrp: this was a few days ago. I didn't realize they were talking about it yesterday thanks |
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| [19:59:08] | Wicked: | For instance im getting guide data from schedules direct and ill have to change the line up for fios. is mythtv smart enough to get the new guide data and reschedule everything to the new channels? |
| [19:59:19] | Shadow__X: | i plan to do something similar for .24-fixes builds |
| [19:59:51] | Wicked: | i have made quite a few "record at any time of this channel" rules. are these gonna come back and bite me? |
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| [20:00:16] | Wicked: | *"record at any time on this channel" |
| [20:00:49] | stuartm: | that will bite, we match against chanid not name/callsign |
| [20:01:18] | Wicked: | :|...the vast majority of my rules are those |
| [20:03:01] | Wicked: | Is there anything i can do so it wont bite? |
| [20:03:16] | Wicked: | besides changing all the rules? there is *alot* of rules |
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| [20:11:53] | aputerboy: | When I override a recording (single time) it seems to hang around in my recording schedules long after that overrided program was recorded. Such one time overrides seem to just clutter up the menu and obscure what I want to see – the "always" rules and any upcoming 1-time rules. So, why aren't old 1-time rules deleted automatically? And is there any easy way to batch delete them? |
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| [20:12:17] | Gibby: | jya: i seemed to have lost all sound, doesn't looks like it is passing audio through HDMI anymore on my ION |
| [20:12:24] | stuartm: | I'm not sure how well it handles with a lineup change, it need not break, but that I simply cannot say whether it will – I don't even know who can answer that question, maybe Daniel |
| [20:13:05] | jya: | Gibby: ion1 or ion2 ; was it working before? what does aplay -L and aplay -l shows? |
| [20:14:35] | stuartm: | Wicked: I suggest backing up your database, and then ask on the -users mailing list how switching a lineup is handled |
| [20:14:49] | Gibby: | ION2 http://pastebin.com/EjEHN3Mf |
| [20:15:02] | stuartm: | I'm not in the US, I've no experience of SD or had any reason to read that code |
| [20:15:31] | Wicked: | well supposedly http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Updating_Channel_Lineup |
| [20:15:55] | Gibby: | yes it was working yesterday, i did a rebuild, even using the same nvidia driver, i also went into alsamixer and unmuted the outputs |
| [20:16:14] | stuartm: | Wicked: that looks promising |
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| [20:16:39] | stuartm: | but still make sure to do some backups, compare the schedules before/after making the change etc |
| [20:17:41] | Wicked: | yea. i run the mythconverg back up script a few times a few |
| [20:17:48] | Wicked: | *a few times a week |
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| [20:19:56] | stuartm: | it sounds like the SD code handles changes better than the xmltv code ... guess I should fix that |
| [20:20:37] | appamatto: | Loos like I'm on the cx18 driver. Is there anything special for setting up closed captioning with that? |
| [20:21:36] | jya: | Gibby: do you have ALSA:hdmi:CARD=Nvidia,DEV=0 selected in the mythtv audio settings ? post the output of mythfrontend -v audio somewhere. |
| [20:21:57] | jya: | but it stops working all suddenly I can only think of two things: |
| [20:22:06] | jya: | 1- hardware issue, something broke |
| [20:22:35] | jya: | 2- make sure you boot your PC, after your turned on your TV and amplifier. To test, reboot the PC while the amplifier and TV are already on |
| [20:23:27] | Gibby: | yep thats is what i have selected, tv and amp are on proir too |
| [20:24:09] | Gibby: | it doesn't seem to be sending the signal over hdmi i think, since it won't change the amp's setting when i try to plan 2 channel like it used to |
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| [20:25:21] | appamatto: | If I'm in the US I should be using NTSC Closed Caption and not PAL Teletext, correct? |
| [20:25:36] | Beirdo: | correct |
| [20:25:55] | appamatto: | I read something about sliced VBI, is that necessary? |
| [20:26:42] | appamatto: | Or is my problem that I need to install a new driver? |
| [20:28:13] | Gibby: | also it doesn't give me 7.1 as a speaker option either |
| [20:28:32] | appamatto: | Is there a better system than mythbuntu for setting this up? |
| [20:29:18] | Beirdo: | appamatto: what capture card? |
| [20:29:23] | appamatto: | HVR-1600 |
| [20:29:40] | appamatto: | I'm on analog right now, which uses the cx18 driver apparently |
| [20:29:46] | Beirdo: | ah |
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| [20:30:07] | Beirdo: | not sure about whether VBI on the analog side there was supported or not in myth |
| [20:31:29] | appamatto: | Hmm, anything I could do as a sanity check? |
| [20:31:46] | Beirdo: | dunno off hand |
| [20:32:19] | appamatto: | There was a forum post from a guy who had analog VBI working |
| [20:32:25] | appamatto: | but his question was unrelated |
| [20:34:25] | Beirdo: | VBI works for ivtv |
| [20:34:37] | Beirdo: | past that, I'm not sure for the analog drivers |
| [20:35:20] | appamatto: | http://www.ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Cx18#Firmware |
| [20:35:46] | appamatto: | It says that sliced VBI insertion into the analog MPEG PS is a feature |
| [20:35:51] | Beirdo: | if you are using the cx18 driver, you are not using ivtv |
| [20:36:09] | Beirdo: | it may do things in the same way, however |
| [20:36:30] | appamatto: | well this page is cx18 and it's on the ivtvdriver.org site |
| [20:37:40] | appamatto: | I wonder if that means I need to select PS instead of TS |
| [20:38:28] | Gibby: | jya: http://pastebin.com/CQ6BvjsJ |
| [20:39:35] | jya: | was it working before with the 260.19.36 drivers? |
| [20:40:35] | Gibby: | yep |
| [20:40:55] | jya: | don't see anything special with those logs ; the problem isn't with myth. Do you get audio with any other program? |
| [20:41:11] | Gibby: | let me install vlc and check |
| [20:41:12] | appamatto: | Looks like I am using MPEG-2 PS in my recording profiles |
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| [20:46:39] | Chat6311: | hola |
| [20:47:13] | Chat6311: | espanol |
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| [20:51:06] | Beirdo: | hola. English |
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| [20:56:47] | hashbang: | jya: did you get the beer money I sent via Paypal? ;-) |
| [20:59:10] | jya: | hashbang: not sure ... haven't checked in a while was overseas for a few weeks and came back yesterday. I have lots of email to go through |
| [20:59:50] | hashbang: | jya: aha. Hope your gaff has escaped the floods. |
| [21:00:16] | jya: | that's in Queensland, I'm 3000km south |
| [21:00:34] | Gibby: | wierd, it is working now after a shutdown and not just a reboot |
| [21:00:48] | jya: | Gibby: so that's no 2 |
| [21:00:56] | hashbang: | ah, I thought I heard there was some over Melbourne way. Guess I mustn't have been paying attention. |
| [21:01:00] | wagnerrp: | that sounds like the name of a movie |
| [21:01:06] | jya: | I mentioned earlier: rebooting making sure the PC is turned on after the TV+amp |
| [21:01:13] | wagnerrp: | 3000km to Queensland |
| [21:02:53] | Gibby: | i did reboot about 10 times, tv and amp always on first but never worked, i had to do a shutdown |
| [21:02:58] | jya: | Gibby: issue is with the edid ; you need to use a custom EDID, or always boot the PC after the TV and amp |
| [21:03:33] | jya: | Gibby: I have a DVB-T card like that, sometimes it fails, and a reboot isn't enough. you must shutdown first |
| [21:07:07] | Gibby: | took longer to rebuild this frontend even with ltsp that i thought, atleast the wife is happy now, on to the next project on the HTDL |
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| [21:09:42] | hashbang: | jya: Hauppauge Nova-T-500? They're unreliable when warm-booted and it's a hardware design issue. :-( Work fine when cold-booted though. :-D |
| [21:09:57] | jya: | no, it's a Dvico Dual-4 |
| [21:10:06] | hashbang: | jya: a lot of it about, I guess. |
| [21:10:26] | Beirdo: | kinda wish my LCD module were on my master backend |
| [21:10:37] | Beirdo: | or frontend, actually |
| [21:10:55] | hashbang: | hmm |
| [21:11:07] | ** hashbang considers getting an LCD for his new MythTV box. ** | |
| [21:11:20] | hashbang: | Beirdo: any recommendations for something that fits in a 3.5" floppy bay? |
| [21:11:30] | Beirdo: | nope |
| [21:11:39] | Beirdo: | the ones I have are 5.25" bay |
| [21:11:39] | hashbang: | 5.25"? |
| [21:11:52] | jya: | hashbang: not 3.5" but 5.25" yes |
| [21:11:56] | wagnerrp: | 3.5" is pretty small for an LCD |
| [21:12:12] | wagnerrp: | even a 2x20 is going to be difficult to read from across the room |
| [21:12:41] | jya: | wagnerrp: not as hard to read as some themes on a 46" TV :) |
| [21:12:42] | hashbang: | wagnerrp: was really only thinking for when I use it for MythMusic. Would be nice to be able to do so without turning the TV on. |
| [21:14:25] | wagnerrp: | jya: yeah, some of that text gets a bit hard to read on my 26" from the far end of the couch |
| [21:14:42] | ** StevenR impatiently waits for his myth server to arrive ** | |
| [21:14:55] | Beirdo: | such is life |
| [21:16:27] | hashbang: | http://www.virtual-hideout.net/reviews/crysta . . . /index.shtml |
| [21:17:59] | hashbang: | supported by LCDproc :-) |
| [21:19:13] | hashbang: | ouch, $60 |
| [21:20:29] | wagnerrp: | honestly? id pick up an old used PDA with wifi |
| [21:20:47] | wagnerrp: | create a simple webpage to control it through |
| [21:20:47] | hashbang: | wagnerrp: yeah, screw it, I'll stick with Mythmote on my phone. |
| [21:21:14] | wagnerrp: | LCDs on the front are great and all |
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| [21:21:29] | hashbang: | but not $60+duty+VAT great. :-) |
| [21:21:31] | wagnerrp: | but i just cant think of a good control scheme to sort through hundreds or thousands of songs cleanly |
| [21:21:55] | wagnerrp: | not on a 20x2 screen with four buttons |
| [21:22:50] | hashbang: | wagnerrp: button 1:next album 2:album+10, 3:album-10, 4:play/pause |
| [21:23:09] | wagnerrp: | but you have to know the order of the albums |
| [21:23:16] | wagnerrp: | i suppose you could do alphabetical |
| [21:23:18] | wagnerrp: | but still... |
| [21:23:19] | hashbang: | exactly. |
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| [21:23:41] | hashbang: | it's similar to how the MP3 CD players used to do it |
| [21:24:00] | hashbang: | they weren't exactly pinnacles of usability, but... |
| [21:28:40] | ** hashbang is chuffed to have won 2 passive 7600GS PCIe cards on eBay today for a total of £18.50 :-) ** | |
| [21:29:06] | hashbang: | all being well, they'll be as good as the fan-cooled 7600GT for SD. |
| [21:30:53] | hashbang: | well, one will be. No spare PCIe slot for the other. :-) |
| [21:31:16] | stuartm: | but still not as good as a vdpau capable card |
| [21:31:33] | hashbang: | stuartm: yeah, I've got a GT240 ready when/if I start doing HD. |
| [21:31:50] | hashbang: | stuartm: but by then, I'll be connecting via HDMI, rather than VGA-to-RGB SCART |
| [21:32:02] | hashbang: | stuartm: (the GT240 can't output <31kHz VGA) |
| [21:32:25] | stuartm: | ugh, scart, what a terrible memory that was |
| [21:32:54] | hashbang: | stuartm: blame jya's fellow countrymen for that. :-o# |
| [21:33:26] | ** jya loves SCART. can turn on my TV automatically ** | |
| [21:33:56] | hashbang: | the electrical specs are OK, but the connector specs are a bit... sub-optimal. :-) |
| [21:34:57] | hashbang: | almost symmetrical, but not quite (like USB, in fact), thick cable but weak retention, continuously evolving usage |
| [21:35:53] | jya: | the connector is weird, but the concept was great. both-ways connector ; data etc. |
| [21:36:38] | stuartm: | jya: but they won't stay where they belong :) |
| [21:36:52] | hashbang: | jya: RGB monitors were horribly expensive in the UK before SCART arrived on portable TVs. :-) |
| [21:37:04] | jya: | it's hard to find devices with scart connector anymore |
| [21:37:38] | stuartm: | in theory HDMI can do the same, but in practice not many devices actually support it |
| [21:37:53] | hashbang: | jya: seem to be on most sources (generally not BD players) and all TVs I've seen in the UK. |
| [21:38:02] | jya: | I bought a DVB-T STB a few years ago, it had a scart output, and so did my TV. Connected it ; got audio and video working rght away; it would turn on the TV and switch channels appropriately. |
| [21:38:45] | hashbang: | jya: of course, sometimes that mode switching logic is bonkers. I have a DVD player that asserts that signal just before it turns off. Thanks... |
| [21:38:59] | jya: | Got brazilian coffee yesterday, gosh it's yummy. it tastes like chocolate |
| [21:40:23] | wagnerrp: | why not just drink hot chocolate? |
| [21:40:39] | stuartm: | really the only problem I had with scart were the connectors, very unreliable and a real pain to connect when reaching around behind a large CRT TV |
| [21:41:24] | hashbang: | stuartm: I imagine these days the cable's weight can tip over some of the less substantial LCD TVs. :-] |
| [21:41:33] | stuartm: | I'm really disappointed that the Virgin HD STB doesn't support hdmi control :( |
| [21:41:39] | stuartm: | hashbang: heh, yeah |
| [21:42:05] | hashbang: | a new variation on "not staying where they belong" :-) |
| [21:43:21] | hashbang: | hmm, I see Adobe have killed their yum repo server. Accident or murder? Who knows. |
| [21:44:42] | [R] ([R]!~rbox@unaffiliated/rbox) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [21:45:42] | Beirdo: | oh WTH |
| [21:46:11] | Beirdo: | why the heck do we have "class LCD * lcd" everywhere rather than "LCD *lcd"? |
| [21:47:38] | wagnerrp: | someone a bit too used to C and structs |
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| [21:47:48] | Beirdo: | seems so |
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| [21:54:17] | [R]: | wagnerrp: i dont know if you remember i had this issue wit hmy hdpvr where the video would start looping... i upgraded to 2.6.37 and it looks like hte problem went away |
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| [22:31:23] | mianos: | si there a standard/normal way to get live recordings into more a permanent area? |
| [22:31:50] | [R]: | mianos: hit record while you are watchign it live |
| [22:31:55] | wagnerrp: | if you are still viewing the live recording, you can hit 'r' and it becomes a scheduled recording |
| [22:32:34] | wagnerrp: | otherwise, you have to go into the watch recordings screen, turn off the livetv filter, and go into the context menu to move the recording |
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| [22:37:53] | cleith: | Hello |
| [22:38:14] | cleith: | Anybody know why enabling COMPOSITE is so incompatible with myth? |
| [22:38:34] | wagnerrp: | its not myth, so much as video output in linux |
| [22:38:49] | k-man: | anyone else experiencing the hang on "please wait"? |
| [22:38:56] | [R]: | k-man: what do your logs say |
| [22:39:15] | mianos: | wagnerrp, does it get the whole thing if I record it when it's almost finished? |
| [22:39:34] | wagnerrp: | mianos: mythtv is always recording |
| [22:39:42] | k-man: | [R]: ill check |
| [22:39:48] | mianos: | um, yes , I mean copy it over |
| [22:39:49] | wagnerrp: | everything you record on livetv will remain around for roughly a day after you record it |
| [22:39:52] | mianos: | yes I know it's int he filesystem |
| [22:40:07] | hashbang: | cleith: I have the COMPOSITE extension enabled on my MythTV box running the 256 nVidia drivers. What issue(s) are you experiencing? |
| [22:40:08] | mianos: | what I just did was log on and cp it to my recording archive |
| [22:40:17] | mianos: | I was wondering if there is a better way |
| [22:40:23] | wagnerrp: | when you hit 'r', it will mark the current show as a scheduled recording, as opposed to livetv |
| [22:40:25] | mianos: | when it finishes |
| [22:40:48] | cleith: | Prior to 0.24 I used to be able to leave composite enabled, but for 0.24 I pretty much have to disable to get good playback on a 9500gt. |
| [22:40:50] | wagnerrp: | it marks it right now |
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| [22:41:00] | k-man: | i don't think i save logs from the frontend unless it logs somewhere automaticaly? |
| [22:41:01] | hashbang: | cleith: using VDPAU, presumably? |
| [22:41:05] | k-man: | i should fix that |
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| [22:41:17] | cleith: | I get tearing, not much, but anoying enough |
| [22:41:51] | cleith: | hashbang: vdpau, and trying to use advanced 2X, but all deinterlacers behave the same |
| [22:42:09] | hashbang: | cleith: right, I'm using Xv on a 7600GT, so that's probably why I get away with it. |
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| [22:43:42] | cleith: | wagnerrp: can you elaborate on the issue? is it a sync problem. Anything that could be improved? |
| [22:43:58] | cleith: | In fact, it seemed better prior to 0.24 |
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| [22:44:46] | wagnerrp: | it may have seemed better |
| [22:45:03] | wagnerrp: | but apparently with 0.23, the timings just happened to line up better with your system and display rate |
| [22:45:12] | wagnerrp: | such that the issue was not as noticeable |
| [22:45:18] | cleith: | any way to make it seem better again ;) |
| [22:45:22] | wagnerrp: | it does not mean the issue did not previously exist |
| [22:45:27] | wagnerrp: | disable compsite on xorg? |
| [22:45:58] | cleith: | I'd really prefer not too if possible. This isn't a dedicated myth box. |
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| [22:46:29] | k-man: | does mythwelcome accept the -l logfile.log option? and does it pass it on to the frontend ? |
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| [22:47:34] | [R]: | k-man: mythwelcome --help |
| [22:47:38] | cleith: | Actually, when I disable composite, playback is almost flawless, but then I get some artifacts when I switch channels and go to the guide. Oddly, I don't get any of that with composite on. |
| [22:47:47] | [R]: | k-man: i think you can control how mythwelcome starts the frontend |
| [22:49:07] | cleith: | wagnerrp: what timings did you mean? anything I can tweak |
| [22:49:31] | k-man: | is there a solution for rotating the frontend log? |
| [22:50:39] | kormoc: | k-man, logrotate |
| [22:50:54] | kormoc: | k-man, your distro likely has it already |
| [22:51:21] | k-man: | kormoc: yeah, just checking it out |
| [22:51:53] | stuartm: | and call me crazy but I swear there are logrotate configs in the repo |
| [22:52:09] | k-man: | stuartm: there are some on the wiki i just discovered |
| [22:52:33] | stuartm: | looks like they are in the packaging repo |
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| [22:53:41] | kormoc: | stuartm, we ship some with the Gentoo ebuilds, should work for any distro with minor mods (specific log paths) |
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| [22:54:40] | stuartm: | kormoc: there's one in the rpm section of the packaging repo, should be accessible without a checkout via github |
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| [23:04:00] | k-man: | anyway, the please wait problem happens intermittently for me when watching recordings |
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| [23:09:05] | nordle: | Hi there, I'm getting audio stutter on playback of videos (x264 with lame mp3 audio in either avi's or mkv's) in mythtv 0.24 Internal Player. I don't get these issues with mplayer or VLC. I've tried the audio buffer setting, but thought it was just for TV playback, either way it didn't effect it. Are there any settings I can tweak? |
| [23:20:07] | stuartm: | nordle: did you upgrade from an earlier version? If so did you go through audio configuration, hit rescan and re-select the audio device? |
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| [23:23:39] | nordle: | stuartm: Thanks for the reply. I started with a fresh install of mythbuntu 10.10 (0.23 I think). Then selected 0.24 from a dropdown and off it went to get more packages. Sounds like I need to do the above, I'll try that. Thanks again. |
| [23:24:50] | cleith: | wagnerrp: Still there? |
| [23:25:50] | cleith: | Later, thanks all |
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| [23:26:33] | stuartm: | nordle: ok, could be that it's not selected the appropriate audio device for your machine, but that's a long-shot guess |
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| [23:27:19] | ** stuartm isn't really suited to front line support ** | |
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| [23:28:47] | nordle: | stuartm: hey man, you know more than me :) Any help appreciated. Gonna have to wait as can't shutdown mythbackend as recording. But as soon as I can I'll give it a shot. |
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| [23:35:08] | stuartm: | everything considered it's amazing just how little I really do know about MythTV :) |
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| [23:55:04] | Beirdo: | OK.. A-Team playing. what to look at next |
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| [23:59:48] | Beirdo: | mmmm hardcore forking action |
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