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| [01:31:31] | dpgraves: | hi all having issue with fresh install ubuntu 10.10 with myth-tv 0.24 trying to start the back end just will not start the backend errors on the capture card. |
| [01:31:48] | dpgraves: | tried using analog card to set as a dummy still no go. |
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| [01:34:12] | dpgraves: | I have a leadtek dtv 2000 ds that does register if set to dvb dtv it registers as afatech af9013 which i think is correct but no matter what i do cannot get the backend to start properly. |
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| [01:58:53] | [R]: | omg |
| [01:58:55] | [R]: | it would be cool |
| [01:59:01] | [R]: | if it showed where the commercial breaks are |
| [01:59:04] | [R]: | when you hit the i button |
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| [02:03:04] | ablyss: | does the vdpau filter "vdpaustudio" also apply to LED TVs? |
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| [02:03:31] | iamlindoro: | Do LED TVs display colors? |
| [02:03:50] | iamlindoro: | Then yes, it applies :P |
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| [02:04:10] | mattwj2002: | hey all |
| [02:04:47] | mattwj2002: | anyone here? |
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| [02:10:28] | mattwj2002: | wagnerrp: are you here? |
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| [02:19:40] | sphery: | iamlindoro: ah, great, -users telling someone to use mythnettv instead of mnv |
| [02:19:50] | iamlindoro: | superb |
| [02:19:57] | sphery: | wasn't there some licensing issue with mythnettv |
| [02:20:05] | sphery: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythNettv |
| [02:20:11] | sphery: | and if so, why is it still on the wiki |
| [02:20:32] | iamlindoro: | torrent support is problematic |
| [02:21:01] | iamlindoro: | realistically, if it's about RSS people should use mirobridge until I finally find time to do scheduled downloads of RSS stuff |
| [02:21:30] | iamlindoro: | But really under no circumstances should one use the mythnettv |
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| [02:34:18] | mattwj2002: | I can't to start recording 2 TBs worth of HD |
| [02:34:19] | mattwj2002: | :D |
| [02:34:23] | mattwj2002: | *can't wait |
| [02:38:17] | wagnerrp: | think theres any way to get pipermail to automatically delete the signature block? |
| [02:42:00] | mattwj2002: | hi wagnerrp |
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| [02:45:22] | johnsu01: | so, somehow mythvideo has made all the pathnames for my video files wrong — it's added an extra subdirectory to the path which does not exist |
| [02:45:22] | johnsu01: | it thinks they are in movies/usb, when they are really just in movies/ |
| [02:45:35] | johnsu01: | there was at one time a usb subdirectory, but it's gone from the filesystem now |
| [02:46:01] | johnsu01: | running "Scan for changes" hasn't removed the usb directory, though it has still discovered the new movies which live in movies/ |
| [02:46:05] | wagnerrp: | evening mattwj2002 |
| [02:46:30] | mattwj2002: | how are you? |
| [02:47:15] | wagnerrp: | bit tired |
| [02:47:47] | wagnerrp: | somehow we had awful traffic jams |
| [02:48:00] | wagnerrp: | the white death descended on our city |
| [02:48:15] | wagnerrp: | and half an inch of snow brought the highway to a standstill |
| [02:48:29] | mattwj2002: | only half an inch |
| [02:48:30] | mattwj2002: | ? |
| [02:48:34] | mattwj2002: | where do you live? |
| [02:48:34] | wagnerrp: | about that |
| [02:48:41] | wagnerrp: | cincinnati |
| [02:48:46] | mattwj2002: | I live in Minneapolis that is nothing |
| [02:48:50] | wagnerrp: | weve already had about 8–10 inches this year |
| [02:48:54] | wagnerrp: | half an inch is nothing here either |
| [02:49:01] | wagnerrp: | yet.... somehow it was |
| [02:49:17] | johnsu01: | sigh, nm, while describing the problem, I figured it out, as usual :) |
| [02:49:27] | johnsu01: | skyline chili forever! :) |
| [02:50:19] | wagnerrp: | johnsu01: what was it? no idea what could have caused a spurious directory to remain after a scan |
| [02:50:42] | johnsu01: | wagnerrp: the directory did actually exist still, it was a symlink and I was looking in the wrong place |
| [02:50:55] | johnsu01: | although, I don't understand why it couldn't play the videos |
| [02:50:58] | wagnerrp: | heh |
| [02:51:17] | johnsu01: | since the symlink did point from the base video directory to the right place, where all the movies are |
| [02:51:37] | wagnerrp: | only one instance of a file can exist in the database at a time |
| [02:51:46] | wagnerrp: | meaning you cant get multiple copies of something by symlinking it around |
| [02:52:05] | johnsu01: | this was something that changed during the last major upgrade |
| [02:52:08] | wagnerrp: | files are hashed to detect moving them around, but results in that side effect |
| [02:52:28] | johnsu01: | to 24 |
| [02:52:40] | wagnerrp: | hashes were added to 0.23 |
| [02:53:00] | johnsu01: | it had been working for a long time before that (which is why I'd forgotten what the actual video directory was) |
| [02:53:54] | wagnerrp: | are you still unable to play the files? or is everything working now? |
| [02:54:22] | johnsu01: | hm, well it's looking in the right place now, but still says "Seek failed" — might be a permissions issue.. |
| [02:54:46] | wagnerrp: | the frontend says seek failed? |
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| [02:55:13] | wagnerrp: | note that the frontend is only accessing a stream from the backend |
| [02:55:20] | wagnerrp: | the backend is what actually opens up files |
| [02:56:06] | johnsu01: | frontend says seek failed |
| [02:56:11] | nutron: | Hrrm, why would mythpreviewgen continuously segfault according to the logs? Lots of first frame is no keyframe warnings (assuming this is mythcommflag) ... feels like my seek tables are pooched or I'm using the wrong container format... or? |
| [02:56:34] | johnsu01: | not a permissions issue |
| [02:56:56] | wagnerrp: | the preview generator has never been particularly stable, which is why it is offloaded to a separate process that can die on its own |
| [02:57:07] | johnsu01: | I don't see any error in the backend log at this verbosity.. |
| [02:57:21] | wagnerrp: | frequent problems are trying to run the preview generator before enough data has actually been recorded |
| [02:57:52] | johnsu01: | it found all the videos and updated their metadata from imdb, but won't play them |
| [02:58:13] | wagnerrp: | themoviedb.org , imdb doesnt let us scrape their site anymore |
| [02:58:21] | nutron: | wagnerrp: do you remember why the video previews were taken out? |
| [02:58:46] | wagnerrp: | nutron: because the UI was rewritten, and no one has written a new (proper) video widget |
| [02:58:58] | wagnerrp: | the old video preview was really an ugly hack |
| [02:59:02] | johnsu01: | wagnerrp: ah, right |
| [02:59:12] | wagnerrp: | it wasnt so much a video, as a sequence of pngs |
| [02:59:35] | wagnerrp: | which is why CPU load was so high running such a small video preview |
| [02:59:43] | wagnerrp: | and also why it was only a couple seconds worth, looped |
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| [03:00:40] | nutron: | wagnerrp: ahh, ok. so theoretically the internal player couldn't be used in say the same context as pip? |
| [03:01:10] | wagnerrp: | previously, the UI was completely detached from the video player and OSD |
| [03:01:22] | wagnerrp: | with 0.24 and mark's work, they are now combined as one set of code |
| [03:01:43] | wagnerrp: | so before, no, you couldnt use the existing player from within recorded programs |
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| [03:04:14] | nutron: | ok |
| [03:04:32] | nutron: | and mythpreviewgen is just hella buggy? |
| [03:04:49] | wagnerrp: | more it doesnt like partial recordings |
| [03:05:04] | wagnerrp: | it generally works just fine if you run it after the recording is finished |
| [03:05:40] | nutron: | Gotcha, well I deleted all png's and on rebuild it kept dying... like thousands of times... |
| [03:05:47] | wagnerrp: | but there are problems with accessing short recordings, and problems accessing recordings with bad seek data (which can often happen at the beginning) that it doesnt handle |
| [03:06:04] | nutron: | Ok, and seek data is rebuilt using commflag |
| [03:06:06] | nutron: | right? |
| [03:06:11] | wagnerrp: | yes |
| [03:06:20] | Beirdo: | mythcommflag --rebuild |
| [03:06:24] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [03:06:26] | nutron: | :o |
| [03:06:30] | Beirdo: | Howdy guys |
| [03:06:31] | nutron: | Complex! |
| [03:06:39] | nutron: | Hola. |
| [03:06:52] | Beirdo: | well, you gotta tell it which recording too :) |
| [03:07:01] | nutron: | WHAT?!!?!?! that's crap |
| [03:07:10] | nutron: | how about *? |
| [03:07:11] | nutron: | :P |
| [03:07:20] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: do you? |
| [03:07:33] | Beirdo: | do I?! |
| [03:07:37] | wagnerrp: | i thought there was one of those commands that if you gave it nothing |
| [03:07:43] | Beirdo: | ooooh |
| [03:07:43] | wagnerrp: | it would just loop through and do everything |
| [03:07:54] | Beirdo: | I'm not sure, it might rebuild for all |
| [03:08:01] | Beirdo: | I'm not about to test that theory |
| [03:08:09] | wagnerrp: | heh |
| [03:08:10] | Beirdo: | it will do some operations for all though |
| [03:08:46] | nutron: | Should the table for seek data be over a gig in size? |
| [03:09:00] | wagnerrp: | how many recordings do you have? |
| [03:09:05] | nutron: | 2000+ |
| [03:09:09] | wagnerrp: | then yes |
| [03:09:13] | nutron: | k |
| [03:09:21] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [03:09:37] | wagnerrp: | remember, its one 44 byte (i think) entry for each key frame |
| [03:09:52] | wagnerrp: | mpeg2 recordings will typically have two of those per second |
| [03:09:52] | nutron: | The system's feeling sluggish though, can't help but think it's the massive backend logs that's causing the iowait |
| [03:10:16] | nutron: | rrrrrough... |
| [03:10:31] | johnsu01: | wagnerrp: hm, with -v all there are no messages at all when I try to play a video |
| [03:10:42] | wagnerrp: | on the backend? |
| [03:10:46] | Beirdo: | nutron: you have loggging on in the db? |
| [03:10:53] | wagnerrp: | do you have mythvideo set up for local folders or storage groups? |
| [03:10:54] | nutron: | yeah |
| [03:11:00] | johnsu01: | wagnerrp: correct, on the backend |
| [03:11:01] | nutron: | wagnerrp: me or johnsu01 ? |
| [03:11:09] | johnsu01: | wagnerrp: I'm not sure.. |
| [03:11:11] | wagnerrp: | yeah, binary logs are generally not advised |
| [03:11:19] | wagnerrp: | just do frequent backups |
| [03:11:39] | nutron: | wagnerrp: oh wait, I thought he was asking about backend logs.. (row entries in the db) |
| [03:11:39] | wagnerrp: | mysql binary logs can get very massive very fast |
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| [03:11:46] | Beirdo: | if your mysql is logging, that would be a good place to start tweaking :) |
| [03:12:03] | nutron: | ugh, no .. no beenary logs |
| [03:12:06] | nutron: | I know better |
| [03:12:17] | wagnerrp: | they are transaction logs, and are required if you want to recover up to a specific commit |
| [03:12:24] | wagnerrp: | but we dont really need that with mythtv |
| [03:12:34] | nutron: | nope, off. First thing I did |
| [03:12:41] | nutron: | on that backend |
| [03:12:47] | wagnerrp: | johnsu01: did you define the directories for mythvideo in mythfrontend or in mythtv-setup? |
| [03:13:38] | johnsu01: | wagnerrp: currently, in mythfrontend, but I may have done it in mythtv-setup at some point... |
| [03:14:01] | ** wagnerrp debates responding to Stephen Atkins about mythtv's quality filter refusing a digital lock on datetime soaps ** | |
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| [03:14:51] | wagnerrp: | johnsu01: do you have multiple frontends or just the one? |
| [03:14:53] | nutron: | hmm buying the hib has done wonders for my productivity :( |
| [03:15:04] | wagnerrp: | hib? |
| [03:15:17] | nutron: | wagnerrp: humble indie bundle |
| [03:15:23] | wagnerrp: | steam? |
| [03:15:29] | johnsu01: | wagnerrp: currently just the one, but in the past I have experimented with having multiple frontends for this same backend |
| [03:15:39] | johnsu01: | currently the only frontend is on the same box as the backend |
| [03:15:51] | wagnerrp: | if you have any intention of using multiple frontends, you will want to switch to storage groups |
| [03:15:59] | wagnerrp: | which will allow the backend to serve up all mythvideo content |
| [03:16:10] | johnsu01: | oh yes, I remember that being a problem before :) |
| [03:16:13] | wagnerrp: | but with just a single frontend and local content, the local folders you are using currently are fine |
| [03:16:21] | nutron: | wagnerrp: naw, 10 games, pay what you want, assign the funds as you want and they're pretty freakin' awesome games. I guess it is available on steam... though I think it's over. Love that the linux folk doubled the windows folk in dollars. |
| [03:16:32] | wagnerrp: | it also means mythvideo is not touching the backend at all for mythvideo |
| [03:17:26] | johnsu01: | okay, let me try more debug on the frontend |
| [03:17:28] | wagnerrp: | so whatever the problems are, they are in the frontend and not the backend like i originally said |
| [03:17:28] | nutron: | I was gonna ask this because I haven't actually done it yet. I have a single frontend currently (in prod) but have 3 more that are about to come online. When setting recording profiles/defaults and other "global" type settings that affect a single backend, does one frontend become master for settings? |
| [03:17:49] | wagnerrp: | no |
| [03:18:00] | nutron: | ok so each can override then? |
| [03:18:07] | wagnerrp: | for global settings, yes |
| [03:18:16] | nutron: | a'ight, simple enough |
| [03:18:51] | nutron: | This leads me to believe that I can reproduce MythTV in 7000 lines of perl code running as an ActiveX plugin for IE 6. |
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| [03:19:45] | wagnerrp: | perl? activex? dont those contradict? |
| [03:19:47] | nutron: | Was that tasteless? =D |
| [03:19:57] | wagnerrp: | no, that was derivative |
| [03:20:04] | wagnerrp: | someone already managed to do it in 1700 lines |
| [03:20:14] | nutron: | oh that was it! lol screwed that one up again. |
| [03:20:16] | johnsu01: | wagnerrp: okay, for one thing, it's using mplayer for a DVD directory, where it used to use internal |
| [03:20:25] | wagnerrp: | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/dev/187428#187428 |
| [03:20:30] | johnsu01: | internal is still the default player |
| [03:20:37] | Beirdo: | 17, 70... sounds the same |
| [03:20:39] | wagnerrp: | 'Internal', yes |
| [03:20:39] | johnsu01: | so I guess it's not recognizing that as a dvd anymore |
| [03:20:50] | wagnerrp: | these are VIDEO_TS folders? |
| [03:21:00] | johnsu01: | wagnerrp: they are parent folders with a VIDEO_TS subdir |
| [03:21:05] | wagnerrp: | yeah |
| [03:21:06] | johnsu01: | wagnerrp: for example SCORE/VIDEO_TS |
| [03:22:00] | johnsu01: | dvd player is definitely set to Internal |
| [03:22:13] | johnsu01: | but "default player" is mplayer |
| [03:22:13] | nutron: | hmm, mpeg ts vs ps? should I leave the container as ps? I'm concerned about the no keyframe (thousands upon hundreds upon thousands of lines complaining about first frame is no keyframe) bah. |
| [03:22:48] | ** Beirdo wants a cigar ** | |
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| [03:23:04] | nutron: | brb |
| [03:23:06] | johnsu01: | wagnerrp: I can just change the default player to Internal I suppose, but I'm curious as to why it's not recognizing the dvds anymore |
| [03:23:27] | wagnerrp: | ideally, you should be using Internal for everything |
| [03:23:37] | wagnerrp: | and ive never tried using VIDEO_TS folders |
| [03:23:44] | wagnerrp: | only single files and ISOs |
| [03:23:51] | johnsu01: | it's worked for many years :) |
| [03:24:34] | johnsu01: | well, changing the default player to internal works |
| [03:24:36] | wagnerrp: | over the holiday, i converted most of my older rips (assorted avi/mkv/mp4) over to ISOs |
| [03:24:50] | wagnerrp: | has to be a capitol I |
| [03:25:07] | johnsu01: | yes, sorry, I used capital in the settings |
| [03:25:14] | johnsu01: | and it's now playing |
| [03:25:39] | wagnerrp: | so the seeking issues were mplayer problems |
| [03:26:25] | Beirdo: | wagnerrp: *if* that setting stays, we really should make it case insensitive ;0 |
| [03:26:34] | Beirdo: | so many people have messed that one up |
| [03:26:44] | johnsu01: | wagnerrp: well.. mplayer wasn't being given a file to play, it was being given a direcotry |
| [03:26:59] | johnsu01: | wagnerrp: and since it wasn't with the dvd:// prefix, it wasn't looking for video_ts |
| [03:27:16] | wagnerrp: | yeah, external player support has been largely abandoned since 0.22 |
| [03:27:24] | wagnerrp: | if it works, great |
| [03:27:31] | johnsu01: | so in my mind there is still the question of why Internal wasn't chosen to begin with — seems like maybe a regression |
| [03:27:33] | wagnerrp: | if it doesnt, that just means its time to get removed |
| [03:27:53] | wagnerrp: | probably a carry-over from an old install before Internal was the default |
| [03:28:09] | johnsu01: | wagnerrp: Internal was set to be the DVD player |
| [03:28:28] | johnsu01: | wagnerrp: And now, it clearly recognizes the directory as a DVD, from the log messages |
| [03:28:39] | wagnerrp: | dont know then |
| [03:28:43] | johnsu01: | so the question is, why wasn't myth using Internal to begin with, even if mplayer was set as the default for other filetypes? |
| [03:29:45] | Beirdo: | wow |
| [03:30:10] | Beirdo: | the shipment from omahasteaks.com... 17lb!? |
| [03:31:18] | Beirdo: | make that 17.70lbs :) |
| [03:33:40] | Beirdo: | I want my yummy beef already :) |
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| [04:00:52] | ** J-e-f-f-A hacks their website and re-directs Beirdo's beef to his house... ;-) ** | |
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| [04:12:21] | Twiggy2cents: | wagnerrp, is there reason for coverting old videos to iso? |
| [04:12:39] | wagnerrp: | no, i wouldnt recommend ever converting videos to ISO |
| [04:13:01] | Twiggy2cents: | why did you then? |
| [04:13:02] | wagnerrp: | unless you intend to subsequently burn that ISO to a disk, and use it in a standalone player |
| [04:13:06] | Twiggy2cents: | ohh |
| [04:13:08] | wagnerrp: | i didnt |
| [04:13:20] | wagnerrp: | erm... yeah, used the wrong word |
| [04:13:20] | Twiggy2cents: | wagnerrp> over the holiday, i converted most of my older rips (assorted avi/mkv/mp4) over to ISOs |
| [04:13:22] | Twiggy2cents: | lol |
| [04:13:24] | wagnerrp: | s/converted/replaced/ |
| [04:13:38] | wagnerrp: | i re-ripped them from the original disks |
| [04:14:00] | Twiggy2cents: | gotcha. do you keep them full feature or just the feature film? |
| [04:14:01] | wagnerrp: | by 'most', i mean i made it about halfway through the DVD carousel |
| [04:14:07] | wagnerrp: | full thing |
| [04:15:06] | Twiggy2cents: | ohh. BTW I had an issue when I concatenated the files together. The index was horridly screwed up. Do you know of an easier way to reindex it rather than to reindex before converting to another container? |
| [04:15:16] | wagnerrp: | yeah, i saw that |
| [04:15:21] | Twiggy2cents: | I am guessing that you can index a video after its been made? |
| [04:15:25] | wagnerrp: | i dont remember having such problems last time i did that |
| [04:15:42] | wagnerrp: | easiest would probably be just to remux it |
| [04:15:54] | wagnerrp: | or you might be able to fix it by generating a seek table |
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| [04:16:13] | wagnerrp: | off the top of my head, i could come up with an ffmpeg line to use |
| [04:16:20] | wagnerrp: | but you would only get the first audio and first video track |
| [04:16:24] | wagnerrp: | probably not what you want |
| [04:17:28] | wagnerrp: | ffmpeg -i <old.vob> -acodec copy -vcodec copy -target film-dvd new.vob |
| [04:17:50] | Twiggy2cents: | so basically when I used avidemux to make an index file then convert to mpeg 2, I essentially did the same thing that you are saying? Aside from it not being a vob when its done? |
| [04:18:12] | wagnerrp: | a VOB already is mpeg2 |
| [04:18:25] | wagnerrp: | but it seems yes, you just reindexed and remultiplexed it |
| [04:18:32] | Twiggy2cents: | So then you can rename a VOB to .mpg and it would work the same? |
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| [04:19:05] | wagnerrp: | extensions are largely irrelevant |
| [04:19:17] | Beirdo: | except in DOS :) |
| [04:19:19] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [04:19:23] | wagnerrp: | any proper player will read the first few bytes of a file to find out what the file actually is |
| [04:19:29] | wagnerrp: | rather than relying on an extension |
| [04:19:40] | Twiggy2cents: | I guess what I was asking then, is that "is the vob container the same as the mpeg 2 container" |
| [04:19:57] | wagnerrp: | VOB is a slight modification on (i think) an mpeg2 ts |
| [04:20:08] | Twiggy2cents: | okay |
| [04:20:09] | iamlindoro: | ps |
| [04:20:16] | wagnerrp: | ah... PS |
| [04:20:47] | Twiggy2cents: | I know I could look it up, and I kinda tried but I didnt read enough to understand. What is the difference between ps and ts? |
| [04:21:04] | wagnerrp: | one has a bunch of additional crap intended to be used for streaming |
| [04:21:57] | Twiggy2cents: | streaming from what? |
| [04:22:13] | Twiggy2cents: | I kinda figured that anytime the video is playing it's streaming |
| [04:22:38] | wagnerrp: | multicast and broadcast streams |
| [04:22:49] | wagnerrp: | all digital TV uses TS formats |
| [04:23:03] | wagnerrp: | it allows you to pick up at any point in the stream and start playing |
| [04:23:14] | wagnerrp: | while PS requires you to read the header at the beginning |
| [04:23:21] | Twiggy2cents: | oh. So if I were to choose one to convert to, I should use PS? |
| [04:23:58] | wagnerrp: | PS will be noticeably smaller than TS |
| [04:24:24] | Twiggy2cents: | Ohh so it wont affect anything other than size? |
| [04:25:46] | Beirdo: | not terribly :) |
| [04:26:10] | Beirdo: | TS (as wagnerrp was saying) is better for streaming and seeking, etc |
| [04:26:34] | Beirdo: | but that's about it for video that can fit in either |
| [04:27:58] | Beirdo: | unless I'm forgetting something |
| [04:27:59] | Beirdo: | heh |
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| [05:11:31] | Beirdo: | oooh, I made nginx confused |
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| [05:15:08] | Beirdo: | fixed it |
| [05:18:00] | Beirdo: | note to self... when proxying, don't set the hostname inside the proxy in the http headers MATCH the external name |
| [05:18:13] | Beirdo: | reverse proxy will munge it totally wrong |
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| [06:29:22] | Cru_: | Hey, wondered if someone could help me. I just added a hard drive to my mythtv box but now when it turns on it only goes to the "mythtvbox login" screen on the terminal and never enters the GUI of the OS or MythTV. I just am sitting at the terminal (I manually typed in a login and signed in, but still nothing) |
| [06:29:24] | Cru_: | I remember having a problem similar to that before....it had something to do with "X" background I think but don't remember |
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| [06:30:01] | wagnerrp: | sounds like distro problems |
| [06:30:07] | wagnerrp: | if you are used to a graphical login |
| [06:30:14] | wagnerrp: | then your system is running xdm/gdm/kdm |
| [06:30:32] | wagnerrp: | if one of those is not starting, there is likely something wrong with your Xorg installation |
| [06:30:39] | wagnerrp: | whatever the problem, X is failing to run |
| [06:30:51] | wagnerrp: | either way, the problem is long before you get into mythtv |
| [06:31:18] | wagnerrp: | one thing to check |
| [06:31:26] | Cru_: | here is all I did: I went to clone my hard drive and used dd command appropriately via live cd, but when the original hard drive is plugged in, it has this error |
| [06:31:31] | wagnerrp: | perhaps the ordering of your drives has changed since installing the new drive |
| [06:31:42] | wagnerrp: | run 'ls /dev/sd*' |
| [06:32:11] | wagnerrp: | that should list your available hard drives and partitions |
| [06:32:14] | Cru_: | it is the correct one (i unplugged the extra hd to make sure) |
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| [06:32:27] | Cru_: | not when it was on...but earlier =) |
| [06:32:49] | Cru_: | is there a way to re-install Xorg via terminal? |
| [06:32:50] | wagnerrp: | no, im saying if your board is set up to use AHCI |
| [06:33:01] | wagnerrp: | adding a new drive could result in the existing drives being reordered |
| [06:33:16] | wagnerrp: | meaning your boot drive used to be on /dev/sda, but is now on /dev/sdb |
| [06:33:24] | wagnerrp: | in which case your fstab would be incorrect |
| [06:33:37] | wagnerrp: | boot would fail, and init would drop you into single user mode to fix the problem |
| [06:33:42] | Cru_: | ah. the command you had me type in says the correct sda1, sda2, etc |
| [06:34:10] | wagnerrp: | if you unplugged the second drive, then you would only have one drive listed there |
| [06:34:13] | wagnerrp: | /dev/sda is the drive |
| [06:34:21] | wagnerrp: | /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2 are partitions on that drive |
| [06:34:27] | wagnerrp: | you probably will have three |
| [06:34:31] | wagnerrp: | boot, swap, and root |
| [06:34:32] | Cru_: | yeah, and sda5 |
| [06:34:45] | Cru_: | which is what I had before i did the clone/adding hd |
| [06:34:45] | wagnerrp: | you can look in /etc/fstab to see where those are mounted |
| [06:34:59] | wagnerrp: | add the new drive in |
| [06:35:04] | wagnerrp: | check those devices again |
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| [06:35:17] | wagnerrp: | see if they have now moved to /dev/sdb1, /dev/sdb2, and /dev/sdb5 |
| [06:35:47] | wagnerrp: | if they have, then you either need to swap the ports on your motherboard so they are ordered properly |
| [06:36:01] | wagnerrp: | or you will have to remount root read/write when you drop to single user mode |
| [06:36:03] | wagnerrp: | and fix your fstab |
| [06:36:38] | wagnerrp: | what i am telling you is the manual way to fix this |
| [06:36:53] | wagnerrp: | depending on your distro, there may be an easier, more automated way to do this |
| [06:37:00] | Cru_: | ok |
| [06:37:04] | wagnerrp: | so you should try their channel for assistance |
| [06:37:16] | Cru_: | ok....thats ubuntu-mythtv, right? |
| [06:37:27] | wagnerrp: | more likely #ubuntu |
| [06:37:45] | wagnerrp: | as mentioned, this is a problem long before you get into anything mythtv |
| [06:37:46] | Cru_: | ah, ok. thanks a bunch. i will tinker around and then try those places |
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| [07:10:22] | zoran119: | fun fun fun... !!NoTrans: SQL Error: Incorrect key file for table './mythconverg/program.MYI'; try to repair it [#126]!! |
| [07:10:38] | zoran119: | no backup of course |
| [07:10:45] | zoran119: | any way of fixing this? |
| [07:11:15] | wagnerrp: | truncate and refill |
| [07:11:25] | wagnerrp: | the program table is for storage of your guide data |
| [07:11:33] | wagnerrp: | fully recoverable from your guide data provider |
| [07:12:00] | zoran119: | so just truncate table program and run mythfilldatabase? |
| [07:12:05] | wagnerrp: | yes |
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| [07:54:04] | clgshaft: | How do I copy a file from one folder to another? Ubuntu. Cp destination/name? |
| [07:54:19] | wagnerrp: | man cp |
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| [07:55:44] | clgshaft: | Ok |
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| [07:56:08] | Beirdo: | w00t.... Almost have my MUD login page hooked in |
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| [07:56:58] | Beirdo: | it's trying, but failing as I haven't coded the last bit of code in the MUD itself yet |
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| [08:10:20] | clgshaft: | Dmesg shows it loading fine |
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| [13:11:23] | mikasaari: | Hi ! Is there some way to pass the mythfrontend timezone checking. I am testing to build mythtv client over tinycore which has weird way of setting the timezone and this causes mythfrontend to give error and exit soon after the startup. Thanks |
| [13:12:41] | mikasaari: | Weirdness can be read from "http://wiki.tinycorelinux.com/Setting+the+Tim . . . Guides" where the + sign is changed with "-" sign |
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| [13:28:56] | AndyCap: | mikasaari: wtf? what do they do on the other side of UTC? |
| [13:32:15] | mikasaari: | AndyCap: I am pretty confused about this as well ! Checking if I could go around this in distro itself. Other possibility is that the new version of tinycore has some fix for this. Anyways the document informs this and also I have tested this by myself. Setting the TZ=EET-2 is infact EET+2 |
| [13:32:22] | mikasaari: | and that is totally stupid |
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| [13:38:09] | mikasaari: | AndyCap: I can get as close as correct UTC Offset, Correct time and ntp enabled, but the Zone ID is not same :( Life sucks |
| [13:39:23] | mikasaari: | surely could make some command line parameter to skip the util.cpp checkTimeZone Zone checking but compiling mythtv libraries in this Atom machine takes forever |
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| [13:43:47] | mikasaari: | For tinycore testers -> install tzdata.tcz, link correct timezone file to /etc/localtime, unset TZ and mythfrontend works |
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| [15:09:31] | aharris2325: | hey my mythtv on debian squeeze won't connect to the mysql database |
| [15:09:33] | aharris2325: | any ideas? |
| [15:09:45] | blizzard_: | same host? |
| [15:09:49] | blizzard_: | which IP did you specify? |
| [15:09:58] | aharris2325: | 127.0.0.1 |
| [15:10:00] | blizzard_: | external IP and letting mysql listen to localhost only? |
| [15:10:12] | aharris2325: | it's on the same machine |
| [15:10:13] | blizzard_: | netstat -anptl |grep -i mysql |
| [15:10:37] | aharris2325: | tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:3306 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 9998/mysqld |
| [15:10:43] | blizzard_: | okee |
| [15:10:46] | blizzard_: | looks good |
| [15:11:01] | blizzard_: | mysql -u mythtv -p mythconverg |
| [15:11:40] | aharris2325: | access denied |
| [15:11:43] | blizzard_: | mysql -h localhost -u mythtv -p mythconverg |
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| [15:12:06] | aharris2325: | access denied |
| [15:12:16] | blizzard_: | wrong password I guess? |
| [15:12:31] | aharris2325: | it's the same password i put in it |
| [15:12:38] | aharris2325: | but i may have forgotten |
| [15:13:55] | aharris2325: | anyway to change it> |
| [15:14:10] | blizzard_: | yep |
| [15:14:16] | blizzard_: | do you remember the root password? |
| [15:14:26] | blizzard_: | mysql -u root -p |
| [15:14:31] | blizzard_: | ah btw |
| [15:14:35] | aharris2325: | yea, i was just logged into it, but alas i am a total noob to mysql |
| [15:14:48] | aharris2325: | k |
| [15:14:51] | blizzard_: | you should NOT substitute mythconverg with your password |
| [15:14:59] | aharris2325: | k |
| [15:15:01] | blizzard_: | the -p states that you will enter your password afterwards |
| [15:15:07] | blizzard_: | so |
| [15:15:11] | aharris2325: | k |
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| [15:15:12] | blizzard_: | mysql -h localhost -u mythtv -p mythconverg |
| [15:15:16] | blizzard_: | try that again |
| [15:15:22] | blizzard_: | exactly as it says |
| [15:15:32] | blizzard_: | it will quote you for a password |
| [15:15:36] | aharris2325: | yea |
| [15:15:39] | blizzard_: | and if that doesnt work, try password "mythtv" |
| [15:15:42] | aharris2325: | i apparently forgot the password |
| [15:15:55] | aharris2325: | it logged in |
| [15:16:04] | blizzard_: | with mythtv as password? |
| [15:16:15] | aharris2325: | haha yea |
| [15:16:20] | blizzard_: | thought so )= |
| [15:16:20] | blizzard_: | =) |
| [15:16:23] | blizzard_: | default password |
| [15:16:28] | aharris2325: | ah |
| [15:16:36] | blizzard_: | did you type that in mythtv-setup aswell or the "other password"? |
| [15:17:27] | blizzard_: | you're quiet, means you typed the other password and is currently verifying if it works better with "mythtv" as password |
| [15:17:30] | blizzard_: | am I right? =) |
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| [15:23:17] | aharris2325: | yea it is in the setup |
| [15:23:44] | aharris2325: | i use a very small cable company. what frequency table should i try? |
| [15:26:41] | blizzard_: | ehum |
| [15:26:42] | blizzard_: | no clue |
| [15:26:52] | blizzard_: | I use satellite my self |
| [15:27:01] | aharris2325: | is there anyway to get it to scan all frequencies? |
| [15:27:05] | blizzard_: | aint there ne "scan all" or similar? |
| [15:27:42] | blizzard_: | the way I do it is that I use "scan" in the CLI to generate a channels.conf file |
| [15:27:52] | blizzard_: | and then I feed mythtv with it |
| [15:27:55] | blizzard_: | and off we go =) |
| [15:28:28] | blizzard_: | I THINK you can do the same for dvb-c (which is cable) |
| [15:29:15] | aharris2325: | everything i investigated uses a frequency table, and apparently, my provider uses a different frequency table |
| [15:30:01] | blizzard_: | "scan hm |
| [15:30:05] | blizzard_: | which country? |
| [15:30:16] | aharris2325: | USA |
| [15:30:33] | blizzard_: | oh, dont know if small countries like that are supported.. |
| [15:30:35] | blizzard_: | ahem ;) |
| [15:30:42] | aharris2325: | lol |
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| [15:31:21] | blizzard_: | I get my frequencies from the dvblinux package |
| [15:31:31] | blizzard_: | which also has dvb-c frequencies |
| [15:31:49] | blizzard_: | check if you got anything under /usr/share/dvb/dvb-c/ that might be applicable to you |
| [15:32:11] | blizzard_: | if so, we'll feed "scan" with that file, and generate a channels.conf that we feed mythtv with |
| [15:32:27] | blizzard_: | files under that dir are ascii files that contains frequency tables |
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| [15:33:52] | blizzard_: | debian package for that dir is dvb-apps |
| [15:34:14] | blizzard_: | otherwise, you might have the frequencies on your providers homepage? |
| [15:34:58] | blizzard_: | (I'm a lil lost my self since I only use satellite... I would go to lyngsat.com but that's satellite only. Should be a similar page somewhere that fits your needs tho...) |
| [15:36:22] | aharris2325: | haha |
| [15:36:23] | aharris2325: | nah |
| [15:36:50] | aharris2325: | i may as well be in zimbabwe |
| [15:37:57] | blizzard_: | should be a way of doing blind scans I think |
| [15:38:53] | blizzard_: | http://www.digipedia.pl/man/doc/view/w_scan.1/ |
| [15:38:58] | blizzard_: | that might be something for ya |
| [15:40:23] | blizzard_: | w_scan -f c -c US -n 2 -x |
| [15:40:28] | blizzard_: | something like that maby |
| [15:40:56] | aharris2325: | could it be because it's scanning for digital channels? |
| [15:41:07] | aharris2325: | and my cable company is broadcasting in analog? |
| [15:41:14] | blizzard_: | oh |
| [15:41:18] | blizzard_: | my bad |
| [15:41:22] | blizzard_: | I live in sweden |
| [15:41:30] | aharris2325: | lol, it's cool. |
| [15:41:38] | blizzard_: | we've killed off any analog broadcast (except for one provider) |
| [15:41:54] | blizzard_: | I guess it's similar for you =) |
| [15:42:01] | aharris2325: | sort of |
| [15:42:05] | blizzard_: | I have no idea how to scan analog =/ |
| [15:42:30] | blizzard_: | brb, f00d |
| [15:42:44] | aharris2325: | our over the air channels have to be digital, but they haven't forced the cable companies to switch to digital. you have to pay extra for digital channels here |
| [15:42:59] | aharris2325: | not with all companies |
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| [15:51:42] | aharris2325: | what directory are the frequency tables located in? |
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| [16:16:49] | elmojo: | jpabq, Beirdo, JEDIDIAH_: I had a movie that I recorded this morning go blank for a second and the came back with bad audio sync that corrected after a few minutes – do you guys see this happen much? |
| [16:17:04] | elmojo: | wondering if my coax-> optical converter might be at fault? |
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| [16:21:14] | Chicago: | I know I could check the repository for this, but I'm asking here hoping for a reply. Does anybody know if people are working on the UPnP capabilities right now and if there is room for help on the team? |
| [16:22:04] | wagnerrp: | talk to dblain and Beirdo about that |
| [16:22:15] | Chicago: | wagnerrp, hiya, Happy New year. |
| [16:22:17] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo wont be around for a couple hours, and dblain never comes in this channel |
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| [16:23:10] | Chicago: | I would like to add capabilities to on-the-fly take a raw flaw and encapsulate it in ogg for a Archos internet tablet and WD liveTV. |
| [16:23:16] | Chicago: | raw flac rather! |
| [16:24:06] | wagnerrp: | thats going to be a lot of work |
| [16:24:36] | wagnerrp: | since youre going to have to write an extensible live transcoding framework from scratch for it to be acceptable as a patch |
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| [16:25:08] | Chicago: | wagnerrp, I imagine a ffmpeg abstraction would be proper. |
| [16:25:27] | wagnerrp: | transcoding for support is fine and great, but just hard coding it for one particular profile would not be commit-able |
| [16:26:07] | Chicago: | wagnerrp, Yes exactly, this is where I need to do some evaluation and discovery of UPnP frameworks to see if the clients advertise their capabilities. |
| [16:27:28] | blizzard_: | Question, If I enable EIT/EPG data on the channels, AND use xmltv grabber |
| [16:27:39] | blizzard_: | which one overrides the other? |
| [16:27:55] | wagnerrp: | neither, you end up with a mishmash of brokenness |
| [16:28:03] | blizzard_: | craps |
| [16:28:14] | blizzard_: | xmltv doesnt cover all channels =/ |
| [16:28:24] | Chicago: | wagnerrp, I'll be back in a few hours after checking some of the last commits. |
| [16:28:24] | blizzard_: | and I dont trust EIT/EPG enough to run along only with that |
| [16:28:34] | wagnerrp: | so only turn on EIT for those channels you dont have XMLTV data for |
| [16:28:53] | blizzard_: | I can specify on a per channel basis? |
| [16:28:58] | blizzard_: | I thought it was per video source? |
| [16:28:59] | Chicago: | schedulesdirect didn't have proper listing data for the season premieres on CBS twice this week but EIT had it. |
| [16:29:21] | blizzard_: | dont have that direct thingie, im in sweden |
| [16:29:31] | blizzard_: | you know, big boobed blondes and polar bears =) |
| [16:29:46] | Chicago: | then why the hell do you watch TV. :p |
| [16:29:59] | blizzard_: | cuz I only got the polar bears around my house ;) |
| [16:30:37] | blizzard_: | haha, naah, we got neat gals, but no polar bears.. rain deers in the northern parts tho |
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| [16:33:44] | aharris2325: | anybody know how to brute force scan for channels with mythtv? |
| [16:33:53] | aharris2325: | scan all analog frequencies? |
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| [16:34:39] | blizzard_: | aharris: try kaffeine |
| [16:34:45] | aharris2325: | did no go |
| [16:34:50] | blizzard_: | =/ |
| [16:35:20] | aharris2325: | it scans for digital channels |
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| [16:35:27] | blizzard_: | oh =/ |
| [16:35:36] | aharris2325: | i have analog cable provider |
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| [17:09:55] | jpabq: | elmojo, I used to have problems like that, but have not in several months. I don't think I have had a problem like that since jya made myth work well with audio stream changes (5.1ch -> 2ch -> 5.1ch) so, whenever that was. |
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| [17:42:43] | elmojo: | how can you find out which exact tuner a recording is going to use? |
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| [17:42:57] | elmojo: | I've looked in mythweb and mythfrontend and can not find it |
| [17:47:11] | sphery: | elmojo: backend status page shows which tuner for next 10 upcoming recordings |
| [17:47:36] | sphery: | and, mythbackend --printsched shows which tuner for all upcoming recordings |
| [17:48:37] | sphery: | mythfrontend status might show it if there's an upcoming recordings "tab"... if not, it might be possible for themes to display it in mythfrontend upcoming recordings |
| [17:48:50] | sphery: | oh, and did you get your mythfilldatabase args |
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| [17:56:44] | wagnerrp: | elmojo: or if youre looking to use it in the script, QUERY_UPCOMING_RECORDINGS over mythproto will do it in the ProgramInfo block |
| [17:57:48] | sphery: | which is probably all wrapped up nicely in python bindings? :) |
| [17:58:36] | wagnerrp: | yeah |
| [17:58:54] | wagnerrp: | although it shouldnt be too difficult with the perl bindings wither |
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| [18:20:58] | elmojo: | sphery: from a user perspective I don't see any real option to know exactly which tuner is going to be used |
| [18:21:16] | wagnerrp: | upcoming recordings in mythweb |
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| [18:21:29] | wagnerrp: | the left side column tells you exactly which |
| [18:21:58] | elmojo: | You mean the Status column |
| [18:22:04] | elmojo: | they are all empty here |
| [18:22:13] | iamlindoro: | because you left your tuner names empty |
| [18:22:20] | wagnerrp: | what iamlindoro said |
| [18:22:37] | iamlindoro: | Give them a plain english name in capture card setup (I use QAM 1, QAM 1, HD-PVR 1, etc.) and they'll appear |
| [18:22:46] | iamlindoro: | er QAM 1, QAM 2 |
| [18:22:49] | elmojo: | ah! |
| [18:23:03] | elmojo: | that will work great! |
| [18:23:12] | elmojo: | it's been driving me crazy |
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| [18:30:34] | mastamind: | hi. i have a problem with mythvideo. it does not show any videos. what am i doing wrong? |
| [18:31:03] | wagnerrp: | have you scanned? |
| [18:31:17] | wagnerrp: | after you set up mythvideo, you must have it scan for content |
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| [18:32:20] | mastamind: | how can i scan for content? |
| [18:32:29] | mastamind: | and please don't tell me to "Enter MythVideo". the documentation already tells me that but it does not tell how i should enter mythvideo. |
| [18:32:40] | wagnerrp: | media library --> watch videos |
| [18:33:28] | iamlindoro: | You know how to enter it to determine there are no videos, but don't know how to enter it before hitting the menu button? |
| [18:33:35] | wagnerrp: | any plugins you install will either show up in 'media library' or 'info center' |
| [18:33:46] | wagnerrp: | heh, didnt even notice that |
| [18:33:48] | mastamind: | ok |
| [18:33:48] | mastamind: | now? |
| [18:33:48] | mastamind: | ok. that is MythVideo? |
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| [18:38:19] | mastamind: | ok. segfault. :-) |
| [18:38:19] | mastamind: | mythtv seems to work great... |
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| [18:39:27] | wagnerrp: | nice of him to stick around to fix the segfault |
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| [18:39:40] | iamlindoro: | yup |
| [18:41:05] | wagnerrp: | huh |
| [18:41:14] | wagnerrp: | 'from MythTV import mythproto' |
| [18:41:20] | wagnerrp: | wonder what that is |
| [18:41:37] | wagnerrp: | oh! hes pulling in the whole file |
| [18:41:43] | wagnerrp: | why is he doing that |
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| [18:45:17] | wagnerrp: | anyone know what Doug Haber's name is on irc? |
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| [18:45:53] | wagnerrp: | !seen dough |
| [18:45:53] | MythLogBot: | dough has not been seen here |
| [18:46:19] | [R]: | dhizzle? |
| [18:46:22] | [R]: | haha |
| [18:47:49] | wagnerrp: | hes dumping everything to /dev/null |
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| [18:48:06] | wagnerrp: | i wonder if he just copied that line from somewhere, or if he ran into the 64k pipe buffer issue |
| [18:48:18] | wagnerrp: | speaking of which... |
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| [18:48:57] | wagnerrp: | iamlindoro: what do you think the likelihood of a tmdb.py/ttvdb.py response being >64K would be? |
| [18:49:08] | wagnerrp: | right now, that will deadlock the bindings |
| [18:49:12] | iamlindoro: | much greater in the case of ttvdb than tmdb |
| [18:49:41] | iamlindoro: | "Lost" as a search returns many, many results, but no guess as to what size-- there are possibly similarly large or larger numbers of resutls |
| [18:49:57] | wagnerrp: | ive never seen it in practice |
| [18:50:02] | wagnerrp: | so i didnt even think about it until now |
| [18:50:13] | [R]: | i had my mythvideo files named wrongly |
| [18:50:21] | [R]: | and i think it saerched for '[' as the title |
| [18:50:22] | iamlindoro: | I'll hazard a guess that it's possible, but I can't point to a "for sure" example |
| [18:50:25] | [R]: | and i got a million results back |
| [18:50:35] | iamlindoro: | mythvideo filters out brackets |
| [18:50:42] | [R]: | hrm, than maybe it searched for 0 |
| [18:50:44] | [R]: | or 1 |
| [18:50:44] | iamlindoro: | but maybe some other random character we don't |
| [18:50:48] | wagnerrp: | ttvdb and tmdb dont have a million entries |
| [18:50:51] | [R]: | i'm not really sure what it was searchign for, but i got a million results |
| [18:50:57] | wagnerrp: | imdb hardly has a million entries |
| [18:51:00] | wagnerrp: | theyre up to like 1.5 |
| [18:51:02] | [R]: | lol |
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| [18:51:27] | wagnerrp: | a million entries would have taken several minutes to pull from that website |
| [18:51:37] | [R]: | lol |
| [18:51:43] | [R]: | so literal... |
| [18:51:51] | wagnerrp: | i wouldnt be surprised if it started causing memory issues in python |
| [18:57:08] | elmojo: | jpabq: the problem I saw was in the actually recording itself and wasn't a playback issue |
| [18:59:33] | clgshaft_: | Hey guys, have you ever seen error -1 cannot initialize and not recognized on a hvr 1600? |
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| [18:59:50] | wagnerrp: | clgshaft_: need a bit more context for that |
| [19:00:23] | clgshaft_: | Dmesg says error -1 not recognized |
| [19:00:26] | clgshaft_: | Using ubuntu |
| [19:00:37] | wagnerrp: | so this is a driver/ubuntu problem |
| [19:00:38] | clgshaft_: | Next line says |
| [19:00:50] | clgshaft_: | I'll ask in ubuntu |
| [19:01:01] | wagnerrp: | we may be able to help |
| [19:01:10] | wagnerrp: | just understand that this is not actually a mythtv problem |
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| [19:01:39] | clgshaft_: | Error -1 cannot initialize |
| [19:01:44] | clgshaft_: | I understand |
| [19:02:02] | wagnerrp: | could you pastebin the whole thing, from ~100 lines on either side |
| [19:02:15] | clgshaft_: | Ok |
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| [19:13:17] | elmojo: | sphery: and no, I never figured out how to make mythfilldatabase update my channel listings based on my schedules direct channels |
| [19:18:17] | wagnerrp: | mfd wont update your guide data? or it wont add new channels? |
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| [19:26:16] | wagnerrp: | DrFredEdison: just about any motherboard from the past five years has done 6-channel audio |
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| [20:25:12] | kcorcoran_: | anyone available to assist me in getting my card configured? for some reason when i scan for channels it doesn't find any. help?? |
| [20:25:33] | wagnerrp: | what card? |
| [20:26:14] | kcorcoran_: | hauppage wintv-hvr 1600 |
| [20:26:24] | wagnerrp: | analog or digital side? |
| [20:27:22] | kcorcoran_: | analog, i think. i apologize, this is all very new to me. |
| [20:27:32] | Chicago: | kcorcoran_, Which kernel version are you using? Did you build it yourself? |
| [20:27:33] | wagnerrp: | with analog, you shouldnt be scanning |
| [20:27:38] | kcorcoran_: | i have my cable source plugged into the coaxial of the card |
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| [20:27:46] | wagnerrp: | pull a lineup from your schedules direct account |
| [20:28:05] | kcorcoran_: | can you help me to determine if i am using analog or digital? |
| [20:28:25] | kcorcoran_: | as it sits not its the cable coaxial plugged into the card. |
| [20:28:25] | wagnerrp: | what card type did you add the card as? |
| [20:29:23] | kcorcoran_: | V4L: /dev/video0 |
| [20:29:34] | wagnerrp: | then you messed up |
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| [20:29:46] | wagnerrp: | /dev/video0 does not support the standard V4L interface |
| [20:29:47] | kcorcoran_: | i figured...i was giving it a best guess. :) |
| [20:29:56] | kcorcoran_: | i figured...i was giving it a best guess. :)/ |
| [20:29:57] | wagnerrp: | /dev/video0 off that card is an MPEG2 interface |
| [20:30:11] | wagnerrp: | while that card does support V4L, it would be /dev/video24 or something |
| [20:30:15] | wagnerrp: | and you dont want to use that anyway |
| [20:30:46] | wagnerrp: | so go back, delete the card, add that input as an MPEG2 Encoder Card |
| [20:31:05] | kcorcoran_: | i deleted the card and reinstall, it does show one of the options as IVTV MPEG-2 encoder card – is that what i should select? |
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| [20:31:13] | wagnerrp: | yes, thats the one you want |
| [20:31:26] | wagnerrp: | then, instead of scanning, you will want to pull your analog lineup from your schedules direct account |
| [20:31:35] | kcorcoran_: | wait....the problem with the is it says probed info: failed to open |
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| [20:32:00] | kcorcoran_: | what do i enter for video deivce? |
| [20:32:14] | wagnerrp: | nothing, it will autodetect what cards are available and list them in the dropdown |
| [20:32:49] | clgshaft: | wagnerrp i am getting ainternal server error for pastebin |
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| [20:33:15] | wagnerrp: | clgshaft: try a different one, pastebin.ca, pastebin.com, pastie.org, fpaste.org |
| [20:34:20] | clgshaft: | http://pastebin.com/GG84ztrd |
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| [20:34:39] | kcorcoran_: | wagnerrp: not working. when i select that card there are 3 items below, video device, probed info: failed to open, and audio input: – there is nothnig listed for the video or audio devices. |
| [20:35:41] | Chicago: | kcorcoran_, choose the IVTV one like wagnerrp said, then manually key in /dev/video0 and see if it shows you you've got it probed. |
| [20:36:06] | wagnerrp: | mythtv should autodetect the 1600 just fine |
| [20:36:11] | wagnerrp: | if it doesnt, then something is wrong |
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| [20:36:23] | clgshaft: | for me wagnerrp? |
| [20:36:24] | wagnerrp: | and manually keying it in probably wont solf it |
| [20:36:31] | wagnerrp: | for kcorcoran_ |
| [20:37:22] | kcorcoran_: | Chicago: no. i entered '/dev/Video0' – still failed to open |
| [20:37:37] | wagnerrp: | thats because /dev/Video0 doesnt exist |
| [20:37:37] | kcorcoran_: | wagnerrp: yes? |
| [20:37:55] | wagnerrp: | im saying you dont type anything in for the video device, you let it autodetect |
| [20:38:10] | wagnerrp: | if it doesnt autodetect it, then something already has that device open and is using it for something |
| [20:38:36] | kcorcoran_: | its not autodetecting, its stating failed to open; so something must be using /video0? |
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| [20:38:49] | wagnerrp: | thats my guess |
| [20:39:10] | Chicago: | wagnerrp, around here I have to key in /dev/video0 after the IVTV device type is selected. I don't recall if it's only true for my pvr-500 but I know I do have to do it. |
| [20:39:31] | wagnerrp: | the pvr-500 should be autodetected as well |
| [20:39:53] | wagnerrp: | the only card that is usable that might not be autodetected is the hvr-2250 |
| [20:40:00] | wagnerrp: | and that would only happen on 0.23 and previous |
| [20:40:09] | kcorcoran_: | okay, i have shut down mythbuntu tv. how can i verify video0 is free? |
| [20:40:26] | wagnerrp: | 'cat /dev/video0 > some_temp_file.mpg' |
| [20:40:34] | wagnerrp: | if it starts filling with data, it should be free |
| [20:40:39] | Chicago: | Which distro are you using kcorcoran_? |
| [20:40:47] | wagnerrp: | clearly mythbuntu |
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| [20:41:33] | kcorcoran_: | 10 .10, just downloaded the other day |
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| [20:42:03] | wagnerrp: | clgshaft: an nvidia card and a 1600, plus several other tuners |
| [20:42:13] | clgshaft: | yes |
| [20:42:17] | wagnerrp: | you may be running out of allocatable resources to initialize the tuner |
| [20:42:21] | clgshaft: | 1600, 2250, 950q |
| [20:42:40] | clgshaft: | how can i fix that? |
| [20:42:45] | wagnerrp: | http://mythtv.org/wiki/Common_Problem:_vmalloc_too_small |
| [20:43:20] | kcorcoran_: | wagnerrp: when i run that command i get bash: temp.mpg: Permission Denied |
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| [20:43:46] | wagnerrp: | clgshaft: that fix only applies if you are using a 32-bit kernel |
| [20:43:58] | wagnerrp: | kcorcoran_: try running it 'sudo' |
| [20:44:06] | kcorcoran_: | did, same result. weird |
| [20:44:22] | clgshaft: | i am using 64, and i already tried that fix |
| [20:44:25] | kcorcoran_: | when i ls the /dev folder i see Video0 |
| [20:44:38] | wagnerrp: | video0, case is important in linux |
| [20:44:46] | wagnerrp: | s/linux/everything but Windows/ |
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| [20:45:27] | kcorcoran_: | corrected the capital V...same issue. |
| [20:45:38] | kcorcoran_: | i know this is so close...frustrating. lol |
| [20:45:50] | Chicago: | Does dmesg show your tuners on the hvr-1600 are initialized? |
| [20:46:04] | clgshaft: | so i cannot alocate enough resources to use more than 2 tuner cards? |
| [20:46:47] | kcorcoran_: | Chicago: not familiar with how to test that. do i just go to a CLI and type in dmesg? |
| [20:47:06] | Chicago: | kcorcoran_, or 'less /var/log/dmesg' |
| [20:47:16] | wagnerrp: | clgshaft: maybe theres some conflict with the 1600 and 2250 drivers? |
| [20:47:29] | Chicago: | kcorcoran_, bash isn't a CLI it's a shell. |
| [20:47:29] | wagnerrp: | the 2250 (saa7164) seems to be loading and initializing before the 1600 |
| [20:47:47] | wagnerrp: | remove it, and see if the 1600 loads up |
| [20:48:00] | clgshaft: | wagnerrp, just remove the 2250, or do i need to uninstall? |
| [20:48:09] | wagnerrp: | physically remove it |
| [20:48:12] | clgshaft: | ok |
| [20:48:14] | clgshaft: | brb |
| [20:48:25] | kcorcoran_: | grabbing the output now |
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| [20:49:07] | wagnerrp: | do not paste that dmesg in here |
| [20:49:40] | wagnerrp: | i assume thats the reason you logged into IRC a second time |
| [20:49:57] | kcorcoran_: | no, i would pastebin it...but, its a lot...so am i just looking for that card in the output? |
| [20:50:18] | kcorcoran_: | no, i logged in 2nd time to actually be on the myth computer |
| [20:50:40] | wagnerrp: | basically, youre just looking for any lines that seem to indicate errors |
| [20:50:49] | wagnerrp: | youre concerned about the lines containing 'cx18' |
| [20:50:55] | wagnerrp: | and anything that looks related to those |
| [20:51:10] | wagnerrp: | but if you have a '/dev/video0', thats a pretty good indicator that everything should be working |
| [20:52:24] | Chicago: | kcorcoran_, your initialization should look like this -> http://pastebin.com/jMU83Lth |
| [20:52:26] | kcorcoran__: | i do have that. how can i verify nothing else is using it? |
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| [20:52:44] | clgshaft: | wagnerrp, still saw the msg on the boot screen |
| [20:52:44] | kcorcoran__: | it probably works, most likely my error in configuration |
| [20:52:45] | Chicago: | kcorcoran__, do 'lsof /dev/video0' |
| [20:54:00] | kcorcoran_: | then what? it just returned back ot the prompt |
| [20:54:12] | Chicago: | that means nothing has opened /dev/video0 |
| [20:54:34] | kcorcoran_: | okay, so i should launch myth backend server, correct? |
| [20:54:46] | Beirdo: | ls -al /dev/video0 ; id -a |
| [20:55:04] | wagnerrp: | no, because youve not yet set up your tuners |
| [20:55:08] | wagnerrp: | the backend will refuse to run |
| [20:55:26] | kcorcoran_: | it shows as myth backend server and setup? |
| [20:55:27] | clgshaft: | should i try other distros? |
| [20:55:32] | clgshaft: | try 32 bit? |
| [20:55:49] | clgshaft: | try without the nvidia? |
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| [21:00:22] | kcorcoran_: | beirdo: sent you PM |
| [21:00:28] | kcorcoran_: | this is so frustrating. |
| [21:00:45] | clgshaft: | kcorcoran, i hear you |
| [21:00:58] | clgshaft: | i have tried everything |
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| [21:01:52] | Beirdo: | kcorcoran_: as root, add your userid to the video group (vi /etc/group, add it on the end of the line for video) |
| [21:02:04] | Beirdo: | do the same for audio while you're at it |
| [21:02:08] | kcorcoran__: | http://pastebin.com/RepgKPvh |
| [21:02:11] | Beirdo: | then log out, log back in |
| [21:02:31] | Beirdo: | your userid doesn't have permissions on the device |
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| [21:03:00] | clgshaft: | w2hat will i miss, or lose going from32 to 64? |
| [21:03:15] | kcorcoran__: | would i type sudo root? |
| [21:03:34] | wagnerrp: | you said you were already on 64-bit |
| [21:03:35] | clgshaft: | sudo su |
| [21:03:41] | clever: | clgshaft: thats sudo -i |
| [21:03:45] | kcorcoran__: | not sure how to perform what you're asking |
| [21:03:48] | clgshaft: | sorry i meqant 64 to 32 |
| [21:03:56] | clever: | kcorcoran__: sudo gpasswd -a mythtv_username video |
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| [21:04:08] | clever: | kcorcoran__: gpasswd will edit the file for you, simpler:) |
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| [21:04:48] | Beirdo: | yeah, if you wanna use newfangled crap :) |
| [21:04:48] | clgshaft: | should i just try mythbuntu? |
| [21:04:49] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [21:04:56] | Beirdo: | add yourself to the audio group too |
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| [21:05:20] | Beirdo: | then log completely out |
| [21:05:25] | Beirdo: | log back in, try again |
| [21:05:26] | kcorcoran_: | gpasswrd: user 'mythtv_kcorcoran' does not exist |
| [21:05:53] | Beirdo: | OMG |
| [21:05:59] | Beirdo: | put your userid :) |
| [21:06:09] | kcorcoran_: | i entered sudo gpasswd -a mythtv_kcorcoran video |
| [21:06:15] | iamlindoro: | headdesk |
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| [21:06:17] | iamlindoro: | headdesk |
| [21:06:17] | kcorcoran_: | my userid is kcorcoran |
| [21:06:18] | iamlindoro: | headdesk |
| [21:06:25] | clever: | sudo gpasswd -a kcorcoran video |
| [21:06:26] | Beirdo: | then use that |
| [21:06:49] | Beirdo: | oh, the fun of newbie helping :) |
| [21:07:06] | kcorcoran_: | appreciate it...i realize this may frustrating, but i appreciate it |
| [21:07:20] | Beirdo: | hey, we all were there at one point |
| [21:07:45] | kcorcoran_: | thank you. :) okay, i performed the same task for audio. |
| [21:08:08] | iamlindoro: | don't make up steps |
| [21:08:15] | Beirdo: | right. now ya have to log off and log back in |
| [21:08:17] | kcorcoran_: | now do i launch mythtv backend server and setup? |
| [21:08:42] | Beirdo: | make up steps? I told him to do that, as later it will be useful |
| [21:09:02] | iamlindoro: | Any user with a desktop will already be in the audio group |
| [21:09:04] | Beirdo: | no need to log off/back in more than necessary |
| [21:09:08] | iamlindoro: | it won't make any difference at all |
| [21:09:39] | kcorcoran_: | logged back in...now what? |
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| [21:10:07] | Beirdo: | now try what you were doing again (verify with id -a that you are in the video group) |
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| [21:10:25] | kcorcoran_: | command please? |
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| [21:10:35] | Beirdo: | iamlindoro: I am looking at the pastebin of id -a on his system, and he was not in the audio group |
| [21:10:39] | Beirdo: | id -a |
| [21:10:48] | Beirdo: | it should have video in that list now |
| [21:11:03] | kcorcoran_: | correct, in both audio and video now. |
| [21:11:17] | Beirdo: | cool |
| [21:11:45] | Beirdo: | now you should be able to access /dev/video0 (and later the sound stuff for playback) |
| [21:12:16] | kcorcoran_: | okay, now i am back at the part to add my capture card...trying to add IVTV MPEG-2 encoder card |
| [21:12:22] | Beirdo: | anyways, I'm off to bury my head in some code. Good luck :) |
| [21:12:36] | kcorcoran_: | problem is it states probed info: failed to open |
| [21:12:55] | kcorcoran_: | DISGARD...i think we're closer!!! |
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| [21:13:26] | nordle: | Hello, wondering if you could help. Mythtv 0.24 Mythfrontend loads and go's straight to gallery, sends CPU to 100% and says "No images found in this directory". Then I can't move away and have to kill mythfrontend. I tried then mythfrontend -r but still it defaults to load Gallery and freeze the PC. Thoughts appreciated. |
| [21:16:14] | kcorcoran_: | okay, card is not working correctly. how do i locate channels now? i was told not to use the scan feature |
| [21:17:08] | wagnerrp: | kcorcoran_: you pull a lineup from your schedules direct account |
| [21:18:22] | nordle: | ahh, it didn't like the USB stick, trying to auto deal with it. Think I'll disable that feature for now. Problem solved. |
| [21:18:55] | kcorcoran_: | can you elaborate? right now the card is seen by mythtv...but i still need to setup video source don't i? |
| [21:19:07] | wagnerrp: | yes, you need to have a video source before you can scan |
| [21:19:13] | wagnerrp: | (or pull a lineup in this case) |
| [21:19:23] | wagnerrp: | the video source stores your channel list and guide data provider |
| [21:20:17] | kcorcoran_: | what do i accept as my listings grabber? |
| [21:20:23] | wagnerrp: | schedules direct |
| [21:20:37] | kcorcoran_: | do i have to enter a user id and password? |
| [21:21:10] | wagnerrp: | yes |
| [21:21:45] | kcorcoran_: | and i use the same user id and password i use to logon to the computer? |
| [21:22:30] | kcorcoran_: | or do i need to create an account at schedulesdirect.org? |
| [21:22:37] | wagnerrp: | yes |
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| [21:22:42] | wagnerrp: | you must create an account |
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| [21:23:53] | Chicago: | and pay $20 :) |
| [21:24:14] | wagnerrp: | you get a free 7-day trial |
| [21:24:22] | Chicago: | and then you pay $20 |
| [21:24:26] | wagnerrp: | so that means three weeks of guide data to fiddle around with before you have to pay |
| [21:24:55] | kcorcoran_: | is this the only way to watch tv via mythtv? |
| [21:26:07] | Chicago: | Yeah, it's the only way to go. |
| [21:26:37] | wagnerrp: | no, its the only legal way to get guide data for cable channels in north america |
| [21:26:43] | wagnerrp: | and mythtv doesnt function well without guide data |
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| [21:28:18] | kcorcoran_: | okay, i entered my new account info...what do i enter in the Data Direct Lineup: ? |
| [21:28:33] | Chicago: | you should hit the retrieve lineups button |
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| [21:29:17] | kcorcoran_: | its working....i think.. |
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| [21:30:07] | kcorcoran_: | okay, it stated fetching for a few seconds...returned to the screen...do i need to enter anything into the Data Direct Lineup? |
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| [21:34:23] | kcorcoran_: | Fetching lineups gets about 50% complete than nothing happens? |
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| [21:36:11] | wagnerrp: | you added alineup to your SD account? |
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| [21:39:37] | kcorcoran_: | i just added a line up. |
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| [21:52:06] | kcorcoran_: | updating the database now....fingers crossed |
| [21:59:50] | kcorcoran_: | not intuiative in the least. but free, at what cost? :) |
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| [22:36:26] | DHR: | I'm trying to add a directory to the default storage group using mythtv-setup. When I select [Add New Directory], it gives me the existing pathname to edit. How do I add? Do I stick a comma at the end and add another path? I would have expected one line per path. Is this documented somewhere? |
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| [22:39:24] | [R]: | DHR: are you sure you are't selecting the existing directory? |
| [22:39:31] | [R]: | cuz when you seletc add, it gives you a new dialog |
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| [22:48:12] | DHR: | [R]: I select 6: Storage directories and get a screen titled "Storage Groups (Directories for new recordings)". It has lined "Default", "Videos", and a bunch with the form "Create ... group". |
| [22:48:26] | [R]: | ok... |
| [22:48:36] | DHR: | When I select "Default", it goes to another screen |
| [22:48:40] | [R]: | yes... |
| [22:49:55] | DHR: | titled "Default" storage group directories. It has the path to my old directory on the next line, and the one after that is "add new directory" |
| [22:50:45] | [R]: | if you seledt add new and it shows you the exiting dir, your'e not selecting new |
| [22:50:54] | [R]: | the theme you are using might be horribly broken |
| [22:50:57] | DHR: | when I select either of those lines, I get another screen (the same in each case): |
| [22:51:24] | DHR: | that screen shows me the existing directory name and lets me edit it. |
| [22:52:17] | DHR: | So: do you suggest that I switch themes? I'm running mythbuntu's 0.24 (upgraded from .23) on top of Ubuntu 10.04 LTS. |
| [22:52:39] | DHR: | I've never consciously chosen a theme. |
| [22:53:20] | DHR: | I just did the upgrade so maybe that broke things. |
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| [23:06:24] | DHR: | wow: banging around on the arrow keys got me into a state that worked. |
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| [23:10:50] | Twigger: | Is there any known issues with audio/video sync on mythvideo? Every format I use has audio sync problems |
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| [23:11:06] | [R]: | Twigger: works fine for me |
| [23:11:10] | [R]: | Twigger: sounds liek your files are corrupt |
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| [23:11:31] | DHR: | assuming that this is a theme problem, any suggestions on how to fix a theme? Or maybe switch themes? |
| [23:11:35] | Twigger: | I dont have the problem with other players, just mythvideo. |
| [23:11:59] | Twigger: | It loses sync in mpg's avi mkv and some others |
| [23:12:10] | Twigger: | dvd's dont lose sync |
| [23:12:19] | [R]: | because your dvds aren't corrupt |
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| [23:13:09] | Twigger: | I concatenated the vobs together into a .mpg and there is still an issue. LIke I said it doesnt happen with other players |
| [23:13:37] | [R]: | your audio might be misconfigured |
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| [23:21:38] | Twigger: | If I press pause and then unpause, its fixed for a while. I have it routed as pulse:alsa. Btw I do have pulseaudio installed |
| [23:22:39] | clever: | Twigger: pulse is known for causing sync problems |
| [23:22:49] | clever: | i uninstall it the instant i see it |
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| [23:24:35] | Twigger: | Also livetv and recordings work fine |
| [23:26:30] | DHR: | I ahve an ancient Myth box and would like to build a new one and migrate the content (recording settings, recordings, ...). Is there a good method? Everyone seems to say upgrades magically work but this isn't exactly an upgrade. |
| [23:26:39] | DHR: | s/ahve/have |
| [23:27:13] | DHR: | ancient == MythTV .20 |
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| [23:28:35] | Twigger: | I woudl use alsa:spdif but I cant figure out how to make it store the alsa settings turning iec958 O on. I tried alsactl store. But I dont understand what else I have to do to make it load that on startup. (I havent really tried very hard though) |
| [23:31:03] | clever: | Twigger: the alsa scripts should save that on shutdown and restore it on bootup |
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| [23:32:01] | clever: | should just work |
| [23:32:32] | Twigger: | So I wonder if Pulse defaults it back to off then? |
| [23:33:24] | clever: | no idea |
| [23:33:27] | clever: | uninstalling pulse would tell you for sure |
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| [23:34:30] | Twigger: | But if I play the same videos in vlc and they play fine, wouldnt that mean it is something to do with myth and not the sound. Or is that a bad assumption |
| [23:36:52] | clever: | from what ive heard, pulse has trouble keeping the sync long-term |
| [23:37:08] | clever: | and only on certain hardware |
| [23:38:20] | Twigger: | Hmm but what about the fact that I dont lose sync on recordings or livetv though |
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| [23:38:49] | clever: | dont know |
| [23:39:45] | Twigger: | Me neither. I am not dismissing your idea though.. I dont have time to test it, but later on tonight I will test it using ALSA:spdif |
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