| Tuesday, December 28th, 2010, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:23] | Led-Hed: | semsem, all you have to do is place your custom lircrc in the users home that launches the frontend |
| [00:00:52] | wagnerrp: | it would work that way were he running mythfrontend, but he is not |
| [00:00:53] | Led-Hed: | easiest way to tell what user runs the frontend is to do: ps -A |grep myth |
| [00:01:06] | semsem: | I did that, but still my RC is not working only few buttons working by default |
| [00:01:21] | wagnerrp: | he is running a wrapper script that fiddles with the environment, and then runs mythfrontend |
| [00:01:30] | Led-Hed: | oh |
| [00:01:43] | wagnerrp: | meaning the wrapper script changes the location of home in the environment |
| [00:01:54] | Led-Hed: | I see |
| [00:01:57] | wagnerrp: | thats why i keep saying it maps to whatever $HOME is in the environment |
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| [00:02:15] | semsem: | this is the output |
| [00:02:17] | semsem: | root@myth:~# ps -A |grep myth 1183 ? 00:00:19 mythbackend 1751 ? 00:00:56 mythfrontend.re |
| [00:03:20] | semsem: | I copied my lircrc to everyplace there is /.mythtv, actually there is only two of them |
| [00:03:28] | semsem: | but still not working |
| [00:03:58] | semsem: | it works fine on my VDR |
| [00:05:31] | Led-Hed: | semsem, unfortunately I dont have any experience with Mythbuntu. |
| [00:06:06] | Led-Hed: | If I remember corectly, there is a utility to setup your remote that comes with Mythbuntu |
| [00:06:11] | wagnerrp: | neither do i, nor do a large majority of the users in here |
| [00:06:40] | Led-Hed: | I think the util is called mythbuntu-lirc-generator |
| [00:07:01] | semsem: | I have read something about it |
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| [00:07:12] | semsem: | but I dont trust anything automatic |
| [00:07:29] | Led-Hed: | semsem, then dont run Mythbuntu. |
| [00:07:37] | semsem: | no |
| [00:07:46] | Led-Hed: | install ubuntu and then install mythtv via apt-get |
| [00:08:03] | semsem: | I mean only it will generate some buttons wrongly |
| [00:08:09] | wagnerrp: | mythtv installed via apt-get /is/ mythbuntu |
| [00:08:21] | semsem: | is it easy? |
| [00:08:22] | Led-Hed: | wagnerrp, really. |
| [00:08:27] | semsem: | I would like to do so |
| [00:08:28] | wagnerrp: | same exact packages |
| [00:08:52] | wagnerrp: | you just have some additional things installed from the default ubuntu installation that arent used by mythbuntu |
| [00:09:05] | Led-Hed: | wagnerrp, I only run my backend that way. frontends are MiniMyth |
| [00:09:17] | Led-Hed: | probably why I dont notice |
| [00:09:18] | wagnerrp: | and mythbuntu comes with things like pulseaudio disabled |
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| [00:09:58] | semsem: | what do you recommend wagnerrp, lucid or maverick? |
| [00:10:06] | Led-Hed: | BBL |
| [00:10:13] | Led-Hed: | good luck semsem |
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| [00:10:18] | wagnerrp: | i have never run ubuntu, i cant recommend anything related to them |
| [00:10:19] | semsem: | bye mate |
| [00:10:26] | semsem: | thanks |
| [00:10:39] | semsem: | aha |
| [00:10:43] | semsem: | I see |
| [00:11:04] | semsem: | what do you use mate? |
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| [00:11:16] | wagnerrp: | gentoo and freebsd |
| [00:11:31] | semsem: | never used them |
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| [00:12:01] | semsem: | what do you like about them? |
| [00:12:50] | wagnerrp: | i like freebsd because it was the first thing i came across most of a decade ago that supported all of my controller cards |
| [00:13:27] | wagnerrp: | i like gentoo because it has the closest package manager design to freebsd in a linux distro |
| [00:13:53] | semsem: | I see you are an old linuxian:) |
| [00:14:11] | wagnerrp: | ive only been using linux for about five years |
| [00:14:15] | semsem: | I have just started using linux 2 years ago |
| [00:14:26] | semsem: | and I am still semi-newbie |
| [00:14:39] | ** kormoc thinks semsem is russian ** | |
| [00:14:50] | semsem: | why? |
| [00:15:17] | kormoc: | It's just how I read your grammar |
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| [00:15:32] | semsem: | hehehe |
| [00:15:42] | semsem: | I am far from Russia |
| [00:15:53] | semsem: | actually very far |
| [00:17:28] | wagnerrp: | i would say saudi arabia personally |
| [00:17:51] | semsem: | hahaha how did you know |
| [00:18:08] | wagnerrp: | used /whois |
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| [00:18:21] | semsem: | my IP is appearing to you |
| [00:18:30] | wagnerrp: | run '/whois semsem' |
| [00:18:58] | semsem: | where I run this? |
| [00:19:10] | semsem: | I am using firefox |
| [00:19:11] | wagnerrp: | hereeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eee |
| [00:19:17] | wagnerrp: | gah... |
| [00:19:25] | wagnerrp: | key jammed |
| [00:19:58] | semsem: | And you're from France |
| [00:20:00] | semsem: | right? |
| [00:20:45] | wagnerrp: | no, im connected through a freenode server in france |
| [00:21:14] | semsem: | I see |
| [00:21:40] | semsem: | I thought your name is like a French |
| [00:21:53] | wagnerrp: | wagner is german, not french |
| [00:22:06] | semsem: | aha sorry |
| [00:22:27] | semsem: | I am listening to a pharmacology doctor |
| [00:22:35] | semsem: | whose name is Raymond |
| [00:22:52] | semsem: | so I thought it is a French name |
| [00:22:55] | wagnerrp: | anyway, the '/whois' returns your hostname |
| [00:23:10] | wagnerrp: | or if it cant resolve that, it returns your IP address |
| [00:23:15] | JEDIDIAH__: | ...Ride of the Valkeries begins to play in Jedi's head. |
| [00:23:31] | wagnerrp: | the IP address it gave for you is registered to an ISP in saudi arabia |
| [00:24:04] | wagnerrp: | dun dun dun dun dun... dun dun dun dun dun... dun dun dun DUN dun, dun dun dun dun! |
| [00:24:44] | semsem: | how I make my IP address not appearing in IRC chat channels? |
| [00:24:45] | JEDIDIAH__: | ...kill da wabbit... |
| [00:26:25] | JEDIDIAH__: | "Everything I know about Opera I learned from Bugs Bunny" |
| [00:26:30] | JEDIDIAH__: | Someone should put that on a tshirt. |
| [00:26:58] | semsem: | Wagner, are you still here? |
| [00:27:04] | kormoc: | nothing like making a shirt and getting sued for copyright infringement |
| [00:27:04] | wagnerrp: | uh huh |
| [00:27:39] | semsem: | do you know where the channels file is stored in mythtv? |
| [00:27:47] | wagnerrp: | there is no channels file |
| [00:27:47] | JEDIDIAH__: | "Bugs Bunny" would be a trademark issue. |
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| [00:27:57] | semsem: | hmm |
| [00:28:20] | wagnerrp: | mythtv stores all temporary files and information for accessing the database in ~/.mythtv |
| [00:28:21] | semsem: | how I can then quickly delete unwanted channels? |
| [00:28:26] | wagnerrp: | everything else is stored in the database |
| [00:28:40] | wagnerrp: | mythtv-setup, mythfrontend, and mythweb all have channel editors capable of deleting channels |
| [00:28:56] | semsem: | mythweb? |
| [00:29:00] | semsem: | great then |
| [00:30:06] | semsem: | I am going to bed now |
| [00:30:23] | semsem: | Thanks Wagner for your help |
| [00:31:01] | wagnerrp: | night |
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| [00:31:32] | JEDIDIAH__: | set unwanted channels to be not visible. |
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| [00:31:57] | wagnerrp: | right, if you outright delete them, they will just be reinserted next time you scan |
| [00:32:13] | wagnerrp: | if you set them as not visible, mythtv will still know they exist nest time you scan, and will leave them invisible |
| [00:32:23] | wagnerrp: | bah... he quit, too late |
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| [01:09:14] | Shadow__X: | wagnerrp: oh ok thanks i just updated the 3 lines and it worked |
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| [01:20:37] | knightr: | thanks sphery! |
| [01:23:00] | Shadow__X: | hey guys everytime i try to use hulu within mythnetvision i just get a really large hulu logo. i am able to access hulu through firefox |
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| [01:25:31] | ** wagnerrp so enjoys responding to pirating users with advice only applicable if they werent ** | |
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| [01:28:59] | sphery: | wagnerrp: on forum? |
| [01:29:50] | sphery: | Shadow__X: bring up mythbrowser and try to go to hulu.com and see if you see more/better errors |
| [01:31:13] | wagnerrp: | sphery: yeah, mythtvtalk |
| [01:31:24] | Shadow__X: | hey sphery ok thanks ill try that |
| [01:31:36] | sphery: | heh |
| [01:31:45] | wagnerrp: | some user complaining about artifacting on 1080p rips |
| [01:32:05] | sphery: | ah, so you told him options for better-quality ripping? |
| [01:32:11] | Shadow__X: | wagnerrp: i was able to successfully set the options for tv shows but i guess i setup the user job wrong its supposed to be Mythvidexport.py %JOBID% right |
| [01:32:13] | wagnerrp: | i told him it could be caused by either data corruption, or too low bitrate |
| [01:32:35] | wagnerrp: | either could be solved by re-ripping off the disk |
| [01:32:42] | sphery: | heh |
| [01:32:47] | sphery: | fun |
| [01:32:59] | wagnerrp: | and 'as he knows', the several day long re-compression process is incredibly tedious |
| [01:33:24] | wagnerrp: | he should just buy more hard drives, and store the original 20–30GB files directly |
| [01:34:20] | sphery: | good advice |
| [01:34:51] | wagnerrp: | im guessing its more bad rips than corruption |
| [01:35:26] | wagnerrp: | since he claimed some 15GB versions played fine |
| [01:35:48] | wagnerrp: | i guess he didnt understand the concept that with VDPAU, bitrate makes no difference |
| [01:35:51] | wagnerrp: | either it plays or it doesnt |
| [01:42:32] | Shadow__X: | so i was able to get mythvidexport to successfully run but, it did not detect top gear as a show and used generic and now i cant find the file |
| [01:43:19] | wagnerrp: | it uses your defined television metadata grabber for new information |
| [01:43:41] | wagnerrp: | so if the show cannot be searched for with it (specifically thetvdb.com), it will revert to a 'generic' show |
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| [01:48:09] | Shadow__X: | ok its top gear us and thats listed on tthetvdb |
| [01:48:54] | Shadow__X: | but i do see that sd does not flag it as top gear us, its just top gear |
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| [01:53:13] | dewman: | wagnerrp, thanks for pointing me to the analog sound dvi to hdmi....I just got it working..... =) |
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| [01:53:30] | Shadow__X: | but it does see that its on history channel and it was aired at 10 |
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| [01:55:54] | Shadow__X: | it also had the title for that episode |
| [01:56:17] | dewman: | now if I can just get the nvidia x server settings to save the overscan compensation |
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| [02:09:58] | sphery: | trying to decide whether to delete The Good Guys without watching or whether to watch it--keeping in mind that it was cancelled after season 1 |
| [02:10:10] | wagnerrp: | wait, what??? |
| [02:10:14] | wagnerrp: | NO!!!! |
| [02:10:21] | ** wagnerrp goes to sulk ** | |
| [02:10:32] | sphery: | was cancelled 10 days ago |
| [02:10:47] | wagnerrp: | what a great christmas gift |
| [02:10:48] | sphery: | only decent thing about it was that Fox aired the whole season (AFIUI) |
| [02:11:30] | sphery: | even tv.com lists it as "final episode"/"ended" |
| [02:11:49] | sphery: | usually they take 6mos to update the status because networks don't outright cancel them |
| [02:11:51] | iamlindoro: | Good Guys was fun as hell |
| [02:11:52] | sphery: | http://www.tv.com/the-good-guys/show/77913/summary.html |
| [02:12:06] | sphery: | worth watching without a S2? |
| [02:12:10] | wagnerrp: | yeah |
| [02:12:11] | iamlindoro: | probably yes |
| [02:12:15] | sphery: | cool |
| [02:12:39] | sphery: | I deleted 2 other series, but remembered you guys saying good things about this one, so I just cancelled the rule on it so far |
| [02:13:40] | sphery: | http://www.dfw.com/2010/12/16/379410/bye-bye-good-guys.html |
| [02:15:15] | sphery: | so found a way that my first episodes rule fails... |
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| [02:15:49] | sphery: | when there's a show that's moved to syndication or, for example, from Canada and its pilot doesn't use the word pilot in the subtitle, it won't show up |
| [02:16:43] | Shadow__X: | is there a way to get the mythvidexport script to properly detect top gear us? |
| [02:18:00] | wagnerrp: | in the old version, and more correctly the old bindings, there was a mechanism force proper detection for differences in names between TMS and TTVDB |
| [02:18:54] | Shadow__X: | i thought it would detect it properly if it compared the channel it was recorded on,the date, and the title |
| [02:19:17] | wagnerrp: | i never added that back with the metadata rewrite in 0.24 |
| [02:19:37] | wagnerrp: | the metadata grabbers only compare title, and optionally subtitle |
| [02:19:39] | wagnerrp: | nothing else |
| [02:19:50] | wagnerrp: | thetvdb doesnt currently support anything else |
| [02:20:14] | Shadow__X: | so for a show like top gear that has afaik atleast 2 verions it will not work properly? |
| [02:20:38] | wagnerrp: | for now, yes |
| [02:21:37] | iamlindoro: | rename the show Top Gear (US) |
| [02:21:40] | iamlindoro: | in recordings |
| [02:21:48] | iamlindoro: | which will make it match TVDB |
| [02:21:56] | wagnerrp: | 'cept, you cant rename shows in recordings... can you? |
| [02:21:59] | iamlindoro: | yes |
| [02:22:05] | iamlindoro: | (you can, that is) |
| [02:22:23] | Shadow__X: | oh really>? that would be great how can i go about that |
| [02:22:29] | iamlindoro: | Menu->Recording Options->Change Recording Title |
| [02:28:07] | wagnerrp: | theyve got a viper on their banners |
| [02:28:22] | wagnerrp: | i really dont like where dodge went with that thing |
| [02:28:37] | wagnerrp: | would be a beautiful card if it didnt have such a hideous hood |
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| [02:29:33] | Shadow__X: | also imo they did too much of the muscle car idea.It handles bad? You have to slow down too much in the turns? lets add moar HP!!! |
| [02:29:57] | Shadow__X: | also the whole burn yourself as you exit thing due to the side pipes |
| [02:30:50] | wagnerrp: | side pipes are a good thing for front engined cars |
| [02:31:19] | Shadow__X: | but the way they have it on the viper you burn yourself while exiting |
| [02:31:24] | wagnerrp: | side pipes mean less piping between the exhaust headers and the exhaust |
| [02:31:34] | wagnerrp: | reduces weight, reduces parasitic losses on the engine |
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| [02:31:53] | Shadow__X: | iamlindoro: will i have to edit each episode this way? or can i set it for all recordings under a specific rule |
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| [02:32:04] | Shadow__X: | wagnerrp: yes i know. When done right its a good thing |
| [02:32:10] | iamlindoro: | Individually for any show that needs a new title |
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| [02:34:37] | Shadow__X: | is there a way to atleast get new episodes to have the updated recording title |
| [02:35:00] | iamlindoro: | no |
| [02:35:12] | Shadow__X: | because if i am understanding this right i will have to manually edit the title of each episode of top gear that is the us version |
| [02:35:16] | iamlindoro: | You're talking about spending 15 seconds once a week |
| [02:35:18] | iamlindoro: | you're live |
| [02:35:20] | iamlindoro: | er you'll |
| [02:35:36] | Shadow__X: | just making sure. Thats all |
| [02:35:38] | wagnerrp: | there has been proposed custom fixups for epg data for just such a scenario |
| [02:35:42] | wagnerrp: | but it has never materialzed |
| [02:35:56] | iamlindoro: | I'll beat that to the punch with my solution anyway |
| [02:36:26] | wagnerrp: | doesnt thetvdb store the TMDIDs? |
| [02:36:40] | iamlindoro: | not that we could lawfully use |
| [02:36:48] | iamlindoro: | and in most cases, not filled out |
| [02:37:22] | iamlindoro: | rather, my solution will be when you set up a recording rule, you'll also be able to pick the right metadata result (as when you query a video in Mythvideo) and pick your artwork, so the rule will contain the TVDB ID |
| [02:37:39] | iamlindoro: | which we can then pass through to recorded |
| [02:37:53] | iamlindoro: | then you can just use that when exporting if you like |
| [02:38:47] | Shadow__X: | thats pretty neat |
| [02:39:18] | wagnerrp: | well ideally, you wouldnt use anything |
| [02:39:29] | wagnerrp: | the recordedfile rework would take care of that whole script |
| [02:39:42] | iamlindoro: | "sort of" |
| [02:39:54] | iamlindoro: | you'll still need to export it from recordings to video in the DB |
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| [02:40:04] | iamlindoro: | you just won't necessarily need to move the file |
| [02:40:07] | wagnerrp: | well it would mean you change a few entries in the relevant tables |
| [02:40:16] | wagnerrp: | as opposed to creating a completely new entries |
| [02:40:39] | iamlindoro: | most of the data you care about is still in the distinct tables |
| [02:40:57] | iamlindoro: | ie, plot, title, subtitle, season, episode, etc. are, according to that last graphic, not shared values |
| [02:41:54] | sphery: | only way you could get the title changes is by doing a manual recording rule |
| [02:42:06] | sphery: | (changed on future episodes, that is) |
| [02:42:19] | sphery: | but that carries all the downsides of VCR usage |
| [02:42:58] | sphery: | though I'd think that a local hack or extension of mythvidexport to allow overrides would make more sense |
| [02:43:23] | sphery: | (that said, I admit to not knowing anything about mythvidexport) |
| [02:43:51] | wagnerrp: | sphery: there used to be such a 'local hack' in the python bindings themselves |
| [02:43:52] | Shadow__X: | I was thinking of a way to have a specific recording rule overide the recorded name |
| [02:44:12] | wagnerrp: | but that didnt get carried over across a rewrite in 0.24 |
| [02:44:13] | Shadow__X: | so in this it would rename the episodes recorded by the specific rule the appropriate name |
| [02:44:26] | sphery: | wagnerrp: speaking of python scripts, though, what's the status on find_orphans.py ? Should I not be recommending that to 0.24-fixes users? |
| [02:44:44] | wagnerrp: | it should work fine |
| [02:44:46] | sphery: | wagnerrp: could be done as a hack to the script, right? |
| [02:45:07] | sphery: | so all those people getting errors (and still getting errors) must have broken downloads? |
| [02:45:19] | wagnerrp: | got a link to any current errors? |
| [02:46:06] | sphery: | most recent was http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/466185#466185 |
| [02:46:10] | sphery: | 2 days ago |
| [02:46:28] | sphery: | oh, but that's an ascii issue |
| [02:46:51] | wagnerrp: | unicode issue, rather |
| [02:47:03] | wagnerrp: | and the change i made /should/ have fixed it |
| [02:47:13] | wagnerrp: | or at least it did when i tested it |
| [02:47:22] | sphery: | ok, I'll recommend a re-download and try again |
| [02:47:24] | wagnerrp: | but that line is from after said fix |
| [02:47:32] | wagnerrp: | there have been no changes since then |
| [02:47:33] | sphery: | the mythwikiscripts "cache" doesn't last long, right? |
| [02:48:00] | sphery: | oh, so re-downloading won't help |
| [02:48:15] | wagnerrp: | no, and frankly i dont know what will at the moment |
| [02:49:03] | sphery: | you need to move to a country that uses non-Latin characters |
| [02:49:15] | sphery: | then you'll be the one to run across any related problems |
| [02:49:20] | sphery: | makes it easier to debug |
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| [02:53:21] | sphery: | wagnerrp: I'll try recommending he set his locale properly... |
| [02:53:52] | JEDIDIAH__: | all you need is some non-latin content. |
| [02:54:05] | wagnerrp: | sphery: that likely isnt the problem |
| [02:54:11] | wagnerrp: | well... maybe isnt the problem |
| [02:54:21] | wagnerrp: | i honestly dont know what is |
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| [02:56:23] | sphery: | well, no one better than me to recommend something that may be completely off the wall |
| [02:56:31] | sphery: | since I have no knowledge of python stuff |
| [02:56:41] | sphery: | what language would someone in Austria speak? |
| [02:56:56] | wagnerrp: | austrian |
| [02:56:57] | sphery: | not de_DE, right? |
| [02:57:41] | wagnerrp: | its a variant of german |
| [02:57:46] | sphery: | de_AT, it seems |
| [02:57:46] | wagnerrp: | similar, but not quite |
| [02:58:13] | Shadow__X: | under the videos directory in storage groups i have 2 folders listed Movies and shows. When i set mythvidexport to put tv shows in the shows folder it creates a show folder within Movies. What am i doing wrong |
| [02:59:13] | wagnerrp: | what do you specifically have set for the format? |
| [02:59:39] | Shadow__X: | V: Shows/%TITLE%/Season |
| [02:59:58] | Shadow__X: | i messed up on the reast of season but i will fix that later |
| [03:00:14] | wagnerrp: | oh, you have two separate directories listed for Videos? |
| [03:00:19] | Shadow__X: | yes |
| [03:00:26] | Shadow__X: | and it defaults to the first one for some reason |
| [03:00:34] | wagnerrp: | it defaults to the more empty one |
| [03:01:14] | wagnerrp: | it balances on freespace only |
| [03:01:23] | Shadow__X: | oh |
| [03:01:25] | wagnerrp: | and if theyre the same, it picks the first |
| [03:01:46] | Shadow__X: | so should i just switch their order |
| [03:01:48] | wagnerrp: | do those actually show up as separate directories inside mythvideo? |
| [03:01:57] | Shadow__X: | yes |
| [03:02:05] | wagnerrp: | as i understood it, i thought they would be merged into a single view |
| [03:02:15] | sphery: | Shadow__X: one possible fix: dd if=/dev/zero of=/path/to/Movies/ballast bs=128M count=4000 && mythvidexport.py |
| [03:03:08] | Shadow__X: | they are on the same drive, I will just adjust my directory structure |
| [03:03:10] | sphery: | (btw, in case it's not obvious, that's a bad joke) |
| [03:03:20] | Shadow__X: | sphery: yes it was obvious :) |
| [03:03:31] | wagnerrp: | iamlindoro: you around? |
| [03:03:32] | sphery: | heh, good |
| [03:03:43] | Shadow__X: | 4000*128M |
| [03:03:45] | Shadow__X: | right? |
| [03:04:09] | sphery: | yeah, would put 500GiB of wasted space on the movies filesystem :) |
| [03:04:19] | Shadow__X: | thats quite a bit |
| [03:04:51] | sphery: | would also take a long time to write to the hdd |
| [03:05:31] | Shadow__X: | so what should i do |
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| [03:06:04] | wagnerrp: | if theyre in the same filesystem, just put the root directory into the storage group |
| [03:06:11] | wagnerrp: | as opposed to each individually |
| [03:07:14] | Shadow__X: | ok will do |
| [03:07:15] | iamlindoro: | I'm here |
| [03:07:31] | wagnerrp: | is that the intended behavior? |
| [03:07:35] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp, Only identical paths on different hosts are merged (IIRC, I didn't write that bit) |
| [03:08:22] | iamlindoro: | it's also possible he has file browse mode on |
| [03:08:28] | wagnerrp: | so if you have multiple paths on the same hoest, they will be set as subfolders in a virtual root? |
| [03:08:45] | iamlindoro: | Probably-- that or FB mode is on |
| [03:08:55] | iamlindoro: | Things are subtly different between one and the other |
| [03:09:45] | Shadow__X: | iamlindoro is right i have file browse mode on |
| [03:09:53] | wagnerrp: | eew |
| [03:09:59] | sphery: | we have too many views/modes in mythvideo... |
| [03:10:10] | sphery: | :) |
| [03:10:23] | ** wagnerrp wouldnt mind dropping browse mode ** | |
| [03:10:34] | iamlindoro: | Yeah yeah |
| [03:10:38] | sphery: | I say drop everything that the maintainer doesn't use |
| [03:10:52] | Shadow__X: | i like to keep folders separate. I like to view movies and shows in 2 separate folders |
| [03:10:53] | iamlindoro: | well FWIW we're rapidly approaching a day where filesystem has no bearing on how things are presented |
| [03:11:13] | iamlindoro: | Well that has to do with how you export them, not with MythVideo |
| [03:11:13] | ** wagnerrp wouldnt mind dropping local files either ** | |
| [03:11:19] | sphery: | at least, then, people can't "customize" their way to breaking things |
| [03:11:25] | iamlindoro: | Shadow__X, Have you turned off FB mode? |
| [03:11:45] | Shadow__X: | yes i turned it off right now and am rescanning |
| [03:12:01] | iamlindoro: | You don't need to rescan |
| [03:12:09] | sphery: | yeah, local file should go and--if we don't have encrypted dvd file support for SGs by then--use it only and specifically for DVD |
| [03:12:11] | wagnerrp: | he does if he never scanned in the first place |
| [03:12:16] | iamlindoro: | well, yeah |
| [03:12:27] | iamlindoro: | though I was under the impression that your script inserted records |
| [03:12:42] | wagnerrp: | yeah, but hes only used it a couple of times |
| [03:13:36] | iamlindoro: | MythVideo will be getting a major overhaul, it's just a matter of me defining the scope |
| [03:13:42] | sphery: | wow, Chloe Armstrong was mean to her Mom before she went off world |
| [03:14:00] | wagnerrp: | smallville? |
| [03:14:24] | sphery: | (I'm watching the (made for TV?) movie Storm Cell, which has the actress who plays Chloe Armstrong from SGU as the main character's daughter) |
| [03:14:38] | sphery: | yeah, made for TV |
| [03:14:48] | sphery: | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0983922/ |
| [03:15:15] | wagnerrp: | why would you go 'off world' in a movie about a storm? |
| [03:15:19] | sphery: | Elyse Levesque = Dana (and later Chloe) |
| [03:15:24] | sphery: | off world in SGU |
| [03:16:25] | Shadow__X: | the other issue i am having is that when i do this ./Mythvidexport.py --tformat=Shows/%TITLE%/Season %SEASON%/%TITLE% – S%SEASON%E%EPISODEPAD% – %SUBTITLE% |
| [03:16:41] | wagnerrp: | it breaks, because you need quotes |
| [03:16:50] | Shadow__X: | ah |
| [03:17:11] | Shadow__X: | sorry about this stuff |
| [03:18:01] | wagnerrp: | anything youre asking likely means the documentation is deficient |
| [03:18:12] | wagnerrp: | that whole thing about being 'too close to document' |
| [03:18:54] | kormoc: | HDHR is $90 on amazon.com for a limited time again |
| [03:19:00] | Shadow__X: | maybe. i know i have run into some similair in the past |
| [03:19:47] | Shadow__X: | the first time i read that as hdpvr and got very happy |
| [03:19:51] | sphery: | kormoc: but you can get it for only $100 if you're willing to buy used |
| [03:19:57] | Shadow__X: | but soon realized it was hdhr |
| [03:20:01] | kormoc: | Ooh! That's a better deal! |
| [03:20:11] | sphery: | yeah, I hear they don't make them like they used to |
| [03:20:37] | kormoc: | sphery, I looked this AM and it was full price. Just got a $50 gift card and was gonna bite the bullet and low and behold, lowered! Jackpot! |
| [03:20:47] | ** kormoc enters the world of OTA ** | |
| [03:21:08] | sphery: | heh, Jeff Bezos gave you a little Christmas present |
| [03:21:10] | Shadow__X: | kormoc: noooo its against the hoa |
| [03:21:46] | sphery: | he's going to attract those dangerous electramanetic radiations to the apartment |
| [03:21:57] | kormoc: | true enough, but I figure they won't notice one of these http://j.mp/hDSGWd |
| [03:21:58] | sphery: | this isn't just his life he's taking into his hands |
| [03:22:39] | kormoc: | I'm missing a lot of good shows I could get OTA |
| [03:22:51] | Shadow__X: | most likely not. Btw you know about the amazon prime student membership right? free 1 year membership |
| [03:22:56] | kormoc: | Aye |
| [03:23:03] | sphery: | they just might notice all the new photons beaming toward your apartment, though! |
| [03:23:04] | kormoc: | Amazon Prime == Worth it! |
| [03:23:15] | kormoc: | true enough! |
| [03:23:23] | Shadow__X: | little timmy might get headaches? |
| [03:23:35] | kormoc: | I'm wondering if my 802.11 will interfere with it |
| [03:23:43] | sphery: | yes, this is why eee ems are bad |
| [03:23:48] | Shadow__X: | what if your neighbors are allergic to ota |
| [03:24:04] | kormoc: | I'd say they could go die in a fire... but.... we're kinda attached... |
| [03:24:12] | sphery: | might as well just put them into a microwave oven |
| [03:24:27] | sphery: | it's basically the same thing... |
| [03:24:34] | kormoc: | it's true |
| [03:27:01] | orlok: | When i try to use mythtv-frontend under ubuntu 10.10 X craps out and goest back to the login screen |
| [03:28:17] | sphery: | sounds like mythfrontend is crashing, and X is waiting on mythfrontend, so when mythfrontend is gone, X has nothing left to do, so it exits |
| [03:28:34] | sphery: | if mythfrontend is crashing, we'd need a backtrace to fix it |
| [03:28:35] | orlok: | it only seems to happen on hdtv channels |
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| [03:28:46] | sphery: | but before you do that, you should probably update to most-current 0.24-fixes |
| [03:28:54] | sphery: | http://www.mythbuntu.org/auto-builds |
| [03:29:02] | orlok: | its odd, i dont normally see X clients taking down the server |
| [03:29:05] | sphery: | and see if it still does that |
| [03:29:22] | sphery: | like I said, the server is likely just shutting down when it's done |
| [03:29:27] | orlok: | though i guess theres some direct memory access stuff going on |
| [03:29:32] | kormoc: | unlikely |
| [03:29:36] | iamlindoro: | XVMC |
| [03:29:38] | sphery: | i.e. X was started such that when you exit mythfrontend, X exits |
| [03:29:39] | kormoc: | orlok, it's likely just the only program running... |
| [03:29:45] | orlok: | kormoc: no |
| [03:29:51] | iamlindoro: | It's not myth's fault, it's Xorg's fault |
| [03:29:58] | orlok: | i'm running the frontend from command line |
| [03:30:02] | iamlindoro: | when using an XvMC profile with a driver that doesn't support it |
| [03:30:08] | sphery: | if it is taking down the server, it's not mythfrontend doing it--only a driver could |
| [03:30:22] | kormoc: | iamlindoro, nice.... |
| [03:30:29] | iamlindoro: | Utilities/Setup->Setup->TV Settings->Playback->Page three, switch from CPU+ to Slim |
| [03:30:31] | orlok: | it only happened when i tried to change to a high def channel |
| [03:30:33] | sphery: | orlok: so, try going into mythfrontend settings Utilities/Setup... |
| [03:30:38] | iamlindoro: | then nextnextnextnextnextnext FINISH |
| [03:30:38] | sphery: | hey, how'd you get so fast at typing |
| [03:30:48] | iamlindoro: | then ta daaaaaa xorg bug worked around |
| [03:30:57] | iamlindoro: | (but still not myth's fault) |
| [03:31:01] | orlok: | iamlindoro: cool, will try |
| [03:31:08] | kormoc: | /grep <sphery>.*slim |
| [03:31:11] | sphery: | XvMC should die |
| [03:31:14] | orlok: | heh, if Xc craps out due to an app, its STILL X's fault :) |
| [03:31:18] | sphery: | oh, wait, it did :) |
| [03:31:26] | iamlindoro: | orlok, true that |
| [03:32:09] | orlok: | though i really like the way that apps just grey out now, instead of not being updated at all |
| [03:32:29] | orlok: | thats the major benifit i noticed of all this newfangled GL desktop stuff |
| [03:33:05] | wagnerrp: | yeah, you probably dont want to use all that newfangled GL desktop stuff |
| [03:33:16] | wagnerrp: | and if you are, you better use the opengl painter and renderer |
| [03:33:17] | Wicked: | hello all. anyone have good/bad experiences with: http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Control-Infrare . . . &sr=1-18 |
| [03:33:22] | sphery: | but I want my mythfrontends on a cube! |
| [03:33:30] | orlok: | wagnerrp: just using stock ubuntu 10.10 on an eee901 |
| [03:33:40] | sphery: | and to go up in flames when I exit |
| [03:33:43] | Wicked: | from the reviews...it seems to work with lirc.....but the mouse emulation thing makes me a bit nervous |
| [03:33:51] | orlok: | i'm not using the fancy wobbly windows or any of that crap heh |
| [03:34:00] | wagnerrp: | yeah, you probably dont want to use mythtv on an eee |
| [03:34:07] | sphery: | orlok: yeah, you're much better off switching to a more lightweight DE or WM |
| [03:34:19] | sphery: | something like xfce or RatPoison or EvilWM |
| [03:34:31] | sphery: | especially on an eee |
| [03:34:38] | wagnerrp: | something like a_better_computer |
| [03:34:43] | sphery: | can the eee even do HDTV playback? |
| [03:34:49] | wagnerrp: | it doesnt have the CPU power to do HD MPEG2 |
| [03:34:57] | wagnerrp: | and it doesnt have a GPU to offload to |
| [03:34:58] | sphery: | vdpau? |
| [03:35:03] | sphery: | so, no :) |
| [03:35:04] | wagnerrp: | or even one with enough power for the opengl painter |
| [03:35:12] | wagnerrp: | its on a crappo GMA 950 |
| [03:35:21] | Wicked: | ..basically im looking for a nice mce remote. my previous one worked well...but after dropping it a few times the ir led thing broke. |
| [03:35:36] | Wicked: | so now im trying to buy a different mce remote that might be built better. any suggestions? |
| [03:35:55] | wagnerrp: | orlok: no high definition content for you |
| [03:36:58] | wagnerrp: | 'the preinstalled xandros kernel of the 700 series only supports up to 1GB' |
| [03:37:01] | wagnerrp: | wait... what...? |
| [03:37:10] | wagnerrp: | how can the linux kernel limit you to 1GB of memory? |
| [03:39:10] | wagnerrp: | seems the 1101s and 1201s are the only models useful for video |
| [03:39:21] | wagnerrp: | and the 1201N is the only one useful for mythtv |
| [03:39:40] | sphery: | which cpu are these? |
| [03:39:46] | sphery: | arm? |
| [03:39:50] | wagnerrp: | atoms |
| [03:39:55] | sphery: | hmmm |
| [03:40:01] | wagnerrp: | the 1101HA and 1201HA are both GMA500 |
| [03:40:06] | wagnerrp: | the 1201N is an ION |
| [03:40:26] | orlok: | iamlindoro: cheers, seems to have fixed it |
| [03:40:31] | wagnerrp: | the rest are all GMA900 or GMA950 |
| [03:40:45] | wagnerrp: | and assorted Celeron CULV or Atom |
| [03:40:58] | orlok: | Ok, another question... Avermedia USB DVB dongle with build in IR receiver.. |
| [03:41:14] | orlok: | any chance of it working? |
| [03:41:15] | wagnerrp: | neither of any particular worth to mythtv |
| [03:42:46] | orlok: | yeah, thought it was worth a try heh |
| [03:42:57] | orlok: | i'd prefer to use a wiimote myself |
| [03:43:11] | sphery: | had I watched this movie 2 years ago when it first aired, I could have warned kormoc about the bad weather coming his way |
| [03:44:08] | kormoc: | Which movie is this? |
| [03:44:16] | sphery: | Storm Cell |
| [03:44:24] | sphery: | made for TV summer movie from 2008 |
| [03:44:27] | kormoc: | oh nice |
| [03:44:45] | sphery: | yeah, looks like Seattle is going to have big problems |
| [03:45:01] | kormoc: | good thing I'm 7 stories up in the air away from the flooding! |
| [03:45:17] | sphery: | heh |
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| [03:48:04] | PMantis: | Hello, I have 156 jobs in my queue. Where can I see what's hanging this? Mythbuntu 10.04 |
| [03:48:31] | Shadow__X: | the workers union |
| [03:48:39] | sphery: | in mythweb's Backend Status page (or the backend status page), check to see which job is on top |
| [03:48:51] | sphery: | you can also check in mythfrontend's System Status page under jobs |
| [03:49:09] | sphery: | you'll likely end up having to kill whatever's stuck |
| [03:49:21] | sphery: | I'm guessing a mythcommflag from weeks ago |
| [03:49:37] | sphery: | probably due to signal issues during broadcast |
| [03:50:42] | PMantis: | sphery, Yeah I can see the scrips, but I'd like to see what the error is. I've rebooted the backend a few times over the past few weeks, so it'd be nice to see what was wrong. |
| [03:50:57] | iamlindoro: | and/or a user job that isn't actually enabled in all spots |
| [03:51:24] | sphery: | well, check to see what one is running, then check the log output from it |
| [03:51:36] | sphery: | and kill it when you find out |
| [03:52:13] | sphery: | shutting down mythbackend (for a reboot) would only cause mythbackend to restart the job on the same (possibly broken) recording again--which would likely get stuck, again |
| [03:52:40] | orlok: | yay can now watch high def channels |
| [03:52:48] | sphery: | you have to kill the job (or can try to stop the job from mythfrontend, but doing so may not work if the job is truly stuck) |
| [03:52:55] | orlok: | thanks guys |
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| [03:53:05] | iamlindoro: | He can try, anyway |
| [03:53:15] | PMantis: | I've looked through /var/log, but I don't see any logs for the jobs |
| [03:53:40] | iamlindoro: | jobs are logged in your mythbackend log |
| [03:53:51] | iamlindoro: | provided you have told mythbackend to actually perform logging |
| [03:53:56] | PMantis: | Hmm, I'll grep that |
| [03:56:32] | Shadow__X: | once i use mythvidexport i am not able to use mythtranscode on the file anymore corrrect? |
| [03:59:03] | wagnerrp: | Shadow__X: why would you say that? |
| [03:59:26] | wagnerrp: | once you use mythvidexport, you now have one file in your recordings, and another in your videos |
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| [03:59:35] | wagnerrp: | they are now completely independent |
| [04:00:08] | Shadow__X: | sorry for being ambiguous. Am i able to run mythtranscode on the exported video |
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| [04:04:05] | Lexridge: | I have been working to re-enable pulseaudio on my system, and finally got everything working...well, mostly. The 5.1 channel mapping on mythtv is now wrong when playing back mkv files. They play fine in vlc however. Any ideas? |
| [04:04:33] | wagnerrp: | for some reason, i thought the pulseaudio support in mythtv was only 2.0 |
| [04:05:21] | Lexridge: | Humm, my mixer is showing me 6 channels, but channel 4 is now the LFE whereas it used to be ch6. |
| [04:05:31] | Lexridge: | and is also ch6 in vlc |
| [04:05:51] | Lexridge: | and ch3 is center |
| [04:06:30] | Lexridge: | ch1 and ch2 are both now rear. |
| [04:08:21] | Lexridge: | it should be in this order L,R,RL,RR,C,LFE |
| [04:08:42] | Lexridge: | that is pretty much the standard, it would seem. |
| [04:08:59] | Lexridge: | And, this all worked fine under ALSA |
| [04:11:55] | PMantis: | Hmmm, mythexport broke, and jobs for this are crashing |
| [04:12:16] | wagnerrp: | mythexport is mythbuntu only |
| [04:13:58] | PMantis: | wagnerrp, Are you saying I can't tell anyone why my 156 jobs were hung 'cause it mentions something that's not directly supported in the channel? |
| [04:14:32] | wagnerrp: | no, im saying mythexport is only going to be used by a limited number of users |
| [04:14:45] | wagnerrp: | and the mythbuntu channel is more likely to be helpful trying to debug your issue |
| [04:15:16] | PMantis: | Already on that then. :) |
| [04:15:25] | wagnerrp: | this isnt the 'wrong' place to ask, just perhaps not the best |
| [04:15:49] | Shadow__X: | wagnerrp: mythtranscode is only for recordings right? I wont be able to transcode exported recordings |
| [04:16:00] | Shadow__X: | after they are exported that is |
| [04:16:36] | wagnerrp: | mythtranscode can be run on filenames, but why would you want to? |
| [04:18:18] | Shadow__X: | I want to run mythtranscode numerous times on the same original file to figure out which profile would be best for me |
| [04:18:29] | Shadow__X: | or is that too execive |
| [04:18:42] | wagnerrp: | the only profile you should be using mythtranscode for is lossless commercial cutting |
| [04:20:15] | Shadow__X: | and then use ffmpeg to get the file down? |
| [04:20:26] | Shadow__X: | file size down* |
| [04:20:56] | wagnerrp: | if you want |
| [04:21:06] | wagnerrp: | generally easier just to buy more/larger hard drives if it comes to that |
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| [04:22:33] | Shadow__X: | yes getting a bigger hard drive would be easier but, to have a tv show on hand after i watch it 3.5GB per show is a bit much. I would like to try and get it under 1GB without losing too much quality |
| [04:23:03] | wagnerrp: | 3.5GB/show means its HD? |
| [04:23:35] | xtort-: | yes, about |
| [04:24:32] | wagnerrp: | same person, different names? |
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| [04:25:33] | Shadow__X: | wagnerrp: yes to HD. no to same person |
| [04:25:41] | wagnerrp: | mpeg2? |
| [04:25:45] | Shadow__X: | yes |
| [04:25:56] | Shadow__X: | firewire recording |
| [04:26:12] | wagnerrp: | then youre not likely to get it below 1.5GB or so without reducing quality |
| [04:26:29] | wagnerrp: | and thats transcoding to h264, which mythtranscode cannot do |
| [04:26:53] | wagnerrp: | mythtranscode can only do mpeg4asp, at which there is really no choice but to lose quality when transcoding HD mpeg2 |
| [04:27:00] | wagnerrp: | unless the source material is already crap |
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| [04:29:54] | Lexridge: | wagnerrp....fixed it. I changed the audio device in frontend to ALSA:default, and now I have correctly mapped 5.1 audio again, and it shows up in PA as an ALSA PULSE PLUGIN. Not the best fix, but since it works, I will use it. |
| [04:30:31] | wagnerrp: | no, if you use the pulse alsa emulation, you will get bad audio sync |
| [04:30:48] | wagnerrp: | use the pulseaudio output, and have mythtv hit pulse directly |
| [04:31:02] | Lexridge: | I thought I might, but so far, lip syncing is fine...just on fast forwarding, it takes about 2 secs for the audio to return. |
| [04:31:37] | Lexridge: | I WAS using the pulseaudio output, but the channel mapping gets so fscked up, it's not usable. |
| [04:32:24] | Shadow__X: | the bit rate is bitrate: 11691 kb/s |
| [04:32:36] | Shadow__X: | so i think its decent |
| [04:32:42] | Lexridge: | I know how to change the channel mapping within PA, but that will mess everything else up, including VLC and MPlayer |
| [04:34:06] | Lexridge: | Is there a way to change the channel mapping within mythfrontend that you know of? |
| [04:34:40] | Lexridge: | I have been reading that mythfrontend uses the SMPTE mapping, and everything else is using the ATSC mapping. |
| [04:35:11] | Lexridge: | Perhaps that should be an option someday in the audio configuration |
| [04:36:48] | Lexridge: | I cannot yet test how the 5.1 plays from an off-air HD channel, and nobody is running 5.1 programming atm. |
| [04:37:18] | Lexridge: | *as* nobody is running 5.1 programming atm |
| [04:38:41] | Lexridge: | where is iamlindoro? I'd bet he would know. |
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| [04:43:52] | wagnerrp: | im sure he wants nothing to do with pulseaudio |
| [04:44:07] | Lexridge: | hummm, maybe I can change it in the sourcecode. |
| [04:44:19] | wagnerrp: | our own audio dev, as well as any of our devs who have touched pulse want nothing to do with it |
| [04:44:38] | wagnerrp: | the only reason its supported at all is because the mainstream distros seem intent upon forcing it on us |
| [04:44:51] | Lexridge: | I'm not a fan of PA myself. I have been fighting it off for 2 years now. |
| [04:45:01] | Lexridge: | and decided to throw in the towel. |
| [04:45:16] | Lexridge: | I dont think PA is ever going away |
| [04:45:27] | Lexridge: | and it gets harder and harder to get rid of in newer dists. |
| [04:45:29] | wagnerrp: | it literally provides nothing new |
| [04:45:48] | wagnerrp: | as far as i can tell, JACK already did everything pulse currently does |
| [04:45:55] | wagnerrp: | and did it with low latency to boot |
| [04:46:22] | Lexridge: | I agree. I use jack frequently as I do multitrack audio here. |
| [04:46:27] | wagnerrp: | the only difference is it never shipped with a fancy GUI to control it with |
| [04:46:40] | kormoc: | but JACK wasn't programmed by a egocentric jackass to push it as the only solution there is! |
| [04:47:05] | Lexridge: | Right, but if jack had an easy to use GUI, I think it would win overall. |
| [04:47:19] | Lexridge: | qjackctl is very close |
| [04:47:43] | Lexridge: | Once you figure out the patchbay, it's awesome |
| [04:48:32] | Lexridge: | but unfortunetly, everything does not play well with jack, for it to be system wide. Firefox for example with Flash |
| [04:48:47] | Lexridge: | very unstable with jack |
| [04:49:45] | Lexridge: | vlc is not the greatest with jack either. It will just drop out of the jack connections listing |
| [04:50:45] | wagnerrp: | 'pulseaudio is used in recent versions of several major linux distributions such as... OpenWRT' |
| [04:50:53] | wagnerrp: | WTF is openwrt using pulseaudio? |
| [04:50:54] | Lexridge: | But if jack were implemented system wide with a GUI, everyone would be forced to fix the jack plugins. |
| [04:50:59] | wagnerrp: | or any audio at all for that matter |
| [04:51:07] | kormoc: | wagnerrp, bluetooth voip |
| [04:51:14] | Lexridge: | lol, Why does a router need PA? |
| [04:51:41] | Lexridge: | kormoc, that's cool. A router with BT built in. |
| [04:51:58] | kormoc: | you can get routers with usb ports |
| [04:52:15] | wagnerrp: | kormoc: what do you need pulseaudio for? |
| [04:52:31] | wagnerrp: | routing a bluetooth headset through the audio API is only going to reduce the capability of it |
| [04:52:33] | Lexridge: | I guess you can run OpenWRT on x86, so you could have any hardware you needed. |
| [04:52:50] | Lexridge: | and as much CPU as you wanted. |
| [04:52:51] | wagnerrp: | i.e.: you cant dial through to it, you can use the buttons on it, ... |
| [04:53:05] | kormoc: | wagnerrp, *a lot* of people believe that the bluetooth audio layer is userspace in pulse audio |
| [04:53:37] | wagnerrp: | hopefully no one actually programming for it |
| [04:53:43] | Lexridge: | PA is much better at BT than ALSA is, but they are all still kernel modules, are they not? |
| [04:54:02] | Lexridge: | I mean, the BT support is kernel modules. |
| [04:54:23] | wagnerrp: | Lexridge: if you were programming for a pair of BT headphones, you may have a point |
| [04:54:28] | wagnerrp: | but this is a headset |
| [04:54:37] | wagnerrp: | its a specific piece of hardware, designed for a specific use |
| [04:54:41] | Lexridge: | I have never been able to make SCO devices work with ALSA, but they worked instantly in PA. |
| [04:54:48] | wagnerrp: | you only want a single application and a single audio stream ever going through it |
| [04:54:59] | Lexridge: | which was NICE! |
| [04:55:05] | wagnerrp: | you dont want your sound server multiplexing in all sorts of unnecessary noise into the headset |
| [04:55:48] | Lexridge: | Well, SCO is low quality to begin with. It's for telephony. A2DP is for stereo |
| [04:56:16] | Lexridge: | PA multiplexes all the audio streams? |
| [04:56:17] | wagnerrp: | phone headsets arent in stereo anyway |
| [04:56:46] | wagnerrp: | yes, that is its entire purpose |
| [04:56:53] | wagnerrp: | to abstract the hardware away from the application |
| [04:56:59] | Lexridge: | No, jaw bone headsets are not....but I do have a pair of Sony DR-BT101 which work with stereo music, or telephony |
| [04:57:02] | wagnerrp: | so audio from multiple applications can be mixed together |
| [04:57:15] | Lexridge: | I see |
| [04:57:43] | wagnerrp: | if you only have a single application accessing the hardware, there is exactly zero use for it |
| [04:58:02] | Lexridge: | ture |
| [04:58:04] | Lexridge: | true |
| [05:00:02] | Lexridge: | How much latency does PA add to a system? I mean, using jack with PA would kinda defeat the purpose would it not? |
| [05:00:54] | Lexridge: | perhaps PA just passes it through with higher priority...nope, doubt it lol |
| [05:01:09] | kormoc: | multisecond latency at time |
| [05:01:12] | kormoc: | *times |
| [05:01:23] | Lexridge: | I'm gonna be laying down some multitracks in Jan. It will be an interesting test. |
| [05:02:00] | Lexridge: | It is the latency is bad, I can easily revert back to ALSA. |
| [05:02:12] | kormoc: | ALSA actually supports audio layer mixing as well, no need for PA for that |
| [05:03:11] | Lexridge: | Yea, I know that. I just dont want to have to keep switching back and forth everytime I want to record, or watch a movie. |
| [05:04:31] | Lexridge: | Perhaps I will try to configure everything to always use jack as a default. It will take time to build the patchbays, but in the long run, it would be much better. |
| [05:05:07] | Lexridge: | It will all depend on how well the ALSA-JACK plugin works. |
| [05:06:33] | Lexridge: | I had lots of problems with it in the past, but hey, I upgraded to fedora 8 to fedora 13 a few weeks ago. Maybe things will work much better. |
| [05:06:48] | Lexridge: | from F8 to F13 I meant. lol |
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| [05:15:27] | wagnerrp: | Lexridge: i was actually thinking of that |
| [05:15:52] | wagnerrp: | ive got several machines around for testing of various things |
| [05:16:08] | wagnerrp: | JACK has a windows client, MythTV has JACK support |
| [05:16:42] | wagnerrp: | i use a KVM for video, but JACK might be interesting for audio, rather than running patch cables directly |
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| [05:19:56] | Lexridge: | Interesting idea. |
| [05:20:27] | Lexridge: | but I'd bet the jack support under Windows is less than desirable. Does the windows version of myth support windows jack? |
| [05:20:49] | wagnerrp: | no, it uses the native windows APIs |
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| [05:25:09] | Lexridge: | figures |
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| [05:51:21] | Lexridge: | goodnight all |
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| [07:20:09] | mgolisch: | is there any resources on known working dvb-c hardware? |
| [07:20:37] | wagnerrp: | !url tuners |
| [07:20:37] | MythLogBot: | tuners: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hardwar . . . _Information |
| [07:22:05] | mgolisch: | are external tuners generaly bad? |
| [07:22:18] | wagnerrp: | external meaning... usb? |
| [07:22:25] | mgolisch: | yeah |
| [07:23:10] | wagnerrp: | personally, i think external tuners are clumsy |
| [07:23:16] | mgolisch: | k |
| [07:23:16] | wagnerrp: | but its all preference |
| [07:23:29] | wagnerrp: | if youve got a big box with all these PCI[e] slots, why not use them |
| [07:25:11] | mgolisch: | yeah right, i currently do not have anything, my current htpc just died so iam in the phase of searching for components to use for a new one |
| [07:27:38] | mgolisch: | so basicaly iam looking for something to record and watch digital cable tv prferably with working ci and hdtv |
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| [07:31:16] | wagnerrp: | tuner cards are not involved in watching anything |
| [07:31:38] | wagnerrp: | and unless youre talking about some very old USB1.1 tuner cards, they dont really have anything to say about hdtv either |
| [07:31:53] | wagnerrp: | they just capture the stream as it is sent by the broadcaster, and pass it onto the system |
| [07:32:15] | wagnerrp: | or in the case of CI cards, pass it through the CAM before passing it onto the system |
| [07:34:13] | mgolisch: | i see |
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| [08:30:35] | justinh: | grrr. transcode: Transcode Errored: Pingu: High Quality (exit status 232, job status was "Errored") |
| [08:30:59] | justinh: | could well be time to upgrade to 0.24 soon |
| [08:32:57] | wagnerrp: | pingu? |
| [08:33:14] | justinh: | yeah recording every one of em & archiving |
| [08:33:29] | wagnerrp: | thats the name of a show? |
| [08:33:30] | justinh: | probably less hassle than ripping DVDs |
| [08:33:39] | justinh: | heh you never seen it? |
| [08:33:47] | justinh: | it's a kids' show |
| [08:33:57] | wagnerrp: | never heard of it |
| [08:34:10] | justinh: | kind of claymation – a penguin who gets into all kinds of scrapes |
| [08:34:37] | wagnerrp: | i cant tell, is that thing speaking or just making noise? |
| [08:35:49] | justinh: | just makes noises I think |
| [08:35:56] | justinh: | it's language agnostic ;) |
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| [08:39:30] | wagnerrp: | yeah... i dont get it |
| [08:39:49] | wagnerrp: | must be 'best viewed while on drugs' |
| [08:40:34] | justinh: | or while very young, perhaps ;) |
| [08:40:40] | wagnerrp: | maybe i just dont understand the dutch |
| [08:41:03] | justinh: | it's a kids' TV show that isn't all BUYMEBUYMEBUYMENOW!!!!!!!!! |
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| [08:41:39] | wagnerrp: | what kids shows are? |
| [08:42:04] | justinh: | just about everything american speaking |
| [08:42:35] | ** wagnerrp doesnt remember the shows he watched as a kid having all sorts of merch ** | |
| [08:42:44] | wagnerrp: | maybe turtles was the worst |
| [08:42:47] | justinh: | yeh well it's a bit different now |
| [08:43:59] | justinh: | and don't forget the Disneys of this world ;) |
| [08:44:06] | wagnerrp: | i got out of the kids show market right before the power ranger stuff |
| [08:44:09] | wagnerrp: | all garbage |
| [08:44:18] | justinh: | yeah that's when it really all went to hell |
| [08:44:40] | wagnerrp: | they would come out with a new version every year or two just so there would be new rangers, and vehicles, and accessories, and enemies to buy |
| [08:44:46] | justinh: | actually no, it got worse with Pokemon |
| [08:45:40] | wagnerrp: | now that you mention it, the card game and spinning top shows (whatever theyre called) are nothing but a means to sell merch |
| [08:46:38] | justinh: | there's a heck of a lot of it about |
| [08:46:49] | wagnerrp: | heh... i was the prime market for power rangers when it came out |
| [08:47:00] | justinh: | even the BBC are guilty of it |
| [08:47:06] | wagnerrp: | 8 years old and i already understood that it was stupid garbage |
| [08:47:38] | justinh: | I was in the market for Transformers. I saw through that too |
| [08:49:09] | wagnerrp: | transformers and robotech were both before me |
| [08:49:34] | justinh: | not sure we ever got robotech over here |
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| [08:51:30] | justinh: | this reminds me of a certain South Park episode ;) |
| [08:51:42] | wagnerrp: | mechastreistand? |
| [08:53:14] | justinh: | can't remember the episode title. they're always wrong when they show them here |
| [08:53:47] | justinh: | the one where the pokemon type company wants to invade america using the toys |
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| [08:54:21] | wagnerrp: | one where barbara streistand has to collect both haves of some crystal, to transform into some giant robotic godzilla? |
| [08:54:26] | justinh: | the company guys get around the americans by telling them how envious they are of their big peni ... |
| [08:54:34] | wagnerrp: | oh, no... chimpokemon or something |
| [08:54:39] | justinh: | yeah that's it |
| [08:56:01] | wagnerrp: | hehe... 'stupidity can be worse than vulgarity and violence' |
| [08:57:22] | wagnerrp: | ah, chinpokomon |
| [08:57:36] | wagnerrp: | apparently 'chin chin' is the japanese word for 'penis' |
| [08:58:32] | justinh: | heheh |
| [08:58:37] | justinh: | I learned something today |
| [08:59:44] | justinh: | that's weird though. I've heard 'chin chin' used as an expression like 'cheers' before |
| [08:59:54] | mgolisch: | yeah me too |
| [09:00:15] | justinh: | that'd be a pretty big faux-pas said in the wrong company :P |
| [09:00:20] | wagnerrp: | well you know, its like saying 'have a good penis' |
| [09:01:02] | mgolisch: | yeah |
| [09:01:18] | justinh: | oooo.. I oogled error 232 for giggles.. up comes iamlindoro's user page – with a script to fix dodgy DVB mpegs |
| [09:01:30] | justinh: | result! It works too :) |
| [09:02:17] | justinh: | darn STBs.. they don't care if PIDs & stuff are all messed up |
| [09:02:22] | wagnerrp: | yeah, its probably an issue with replex somewhere |
| [09:02:29] | mgolisch: | so if i wanted to watch livetv what cpu would i need for that? |
| [09:02:40] | justinh: | mgolisch: depends |
| [09:02:45] | wagnerrp: | on the content |
| [09:03:36] | justinh: | if all you wanna do is *watch* stuff live then er.. you don't really need mythtv |
| [09:03:54] | mgolisch: | i also want to record shows |
| [09:05:19] | mgolisch: | so basicaly iam wondering if i should go with that ion based board or get me something with a decent cpu(non atom) instead |
| [09:06:12] | wagnerrp: | is this a combined frontend/backend? |
| [09:07:06] | mgolisch: | yeah |
| [09:07:17] | wagnerrp: | get a real processor |
| [09:07:22] | mgolisch: | i do not plan for aditional computers in my htpc setup |
| [09:08:10] | wagnerrp: | well the idea with a separate backend is that your backend is a big noisy machine with a bunch of tuner cards and hard drives |
| [09:08:29] | wagnerrp: | while your frontend is diskless, with just a mini-itx board, cpu and memory in a tiny box |
| [09:08:49] | wagnerrp: | (or you have multiple frontends of that configuration) |
| [09:10:19] | mgolisch: | still unsure what i realy want, id love to have multiple tuners so i could watch one thing and record another |
| [09:10:52] | mgolisch: | but then i could only record or watch the paytv stuff or i would have to get aiditional cards and pay again for all the packages |
| [09:10:56] | mgolisch: | :( |
| [09:11:37] | mgolisch: | i wonder how those recivers they give you do it, the one i have currently seems to be able to let me watch something while recording something else |
| [09:11:41] | mgolisch: | with only one smartcard |
| [09:12:19] | mgolisch: | but none of the pci cards i have found so far seem to be twin tuner or something |
| [09:12:36] | wagnerrp: | there are twin-tuner DVB-C+CI cards |
| [09:12:57] | wagnerrp: | someone even posted a 4-tuner card in here a couple days ago |
| [09:13:01] | wagnerrp: | but i dont thing it took CI cards |
| [09:13:20] | mgolisch: | maybe i didnt look hard enough then |
| [09:13:25] | wagnerrp: | however every tuner ive ever seen required one CI card per tuner |
| [09:14:46] | mgolisch: | hm okay, bloody cable companies, i wonder what happens if i just copy the card |
| [09:14:56] | mgolisch: | but i guess they are probably gona notice that |
| [09:15:11] | wagnerrp: | just get... two cards? |
| [09:15:19] | staylo: | I've been impressed with the ION and MythTV, the mythbuntu setup on my revo r3600 copes with HD (DVB-S) without issues. |
| [09:15:26] | wagnerrp: | over here, its a couple bucks per cablecard |
| [09:15:46] | mgolisch: | yeah it would be 5Eur/month for an aiditional card |
| [09:15:56] | mgolisch: | +plus the price for all the packages again |
| [09:15:59] | wagnerrp: | the ION only works because you have the nvidia chip to do decoding for you |
| [09:16:13] | wagnerrp: | there is nothing to be impressed about by the Atom |
| [09:16:22] | wagnerrp: | you can only get one card per subscription? |
| [09:16:26] | mgolisch: | yeah i wonder if it realy works well if its something you cant do with vdpau |
| [09:16:31] | wagnerrp: | if you get a second card, you have to bay for all the channels twice? |
| [09:16:42] | wagnerrp: | no, the Atom is garbage |
| [09:16:50] | mgolisch: | wagnerrp: yeah unless i totaly missunderstand my cable providers website |
| [09:16:52] | wagnerrp: | if you cant do it with VDPAU, you pretty much cant do it |
| [09:17:29] | mgolisch: | yeah, had that problem on my last htpc it totaly sucked with mame |
| [09:17:31] | mgolisch: | :( |
| [09:17:40] | mgolisch: | because of the atom |
| [09:17:59] | staylo: | No, unaccelerated flash for example is terrible. But I tested the new flash thing (stage something) and it looked promising. |
| [09:18:19] | mgolisch: | but yeah if all you do is h264 or other stuff the purevideohd chips do you should be good with that |
| [09:18:43] | mgolisch: | those zotac and assorted ion barebones things are quite cheap around 200eur |
| [09:18:46] | mgolisch: | or so |
| [09:18:58] | wagnerrp: | no, if all you do is h264 compliant with the limited purevideo decoder, you should be good with that |
| [09:19:24] | wagnerrp: | the decoder chip cannot do 'all h264', or even 'all h264 of l4.1 or below' |
| [09:19:26] | staylo: | Hmm, the revos are much more expensive now, definitely not worth it. |
| [09:19:39] | wagnerrp: | there are several encoder options it chokes on |
| [09:19:50] | wagnerrp: | plus it cant handle different profiles |
| [09:20:00] | wagnerrp: | it doesnt handle stream corruption well |
| [09:20:23] | wagnerrp: | its just generally good to have enough CPU that you can fall back to a more robust software decoder |
| [09:21:43] | mgolisch: | makes sense |
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| [16:18:42] | xtort-: | I've added new recording profiles, but they aren't showing up in the program recording options in mythweb or in the frontend. I've restarted the backend. Is there anything else I need to do? |
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| [16:23:06] | xtort-: | The frontend always segfaults as I back out of that screen though, so maybe that's the issue |
| [16:23:40] | wagnerrp: | pretty sure we dont support adding new recording profiles |
| [16:24:02] | wagnerrp: | yeah, the option is there |
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| [16:24:26] | wagnerrp: | but there is some flaw with how Qt handles the dialog window that prevents the newly added profile from actually doing anything |
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| [16:24:53] | xtort-: | Ahhh, I see |
| [16:25:20] | xtort-: | That's OK, I can just reuse the few that are given already then |
| [16:25:28] | xtort-: | Thanks for the info |
| [16:27:00] | wagnerrp: | iamlindoro: beat me to it |
| [16:27:50] | iamlindoro: | Always ready to spring into action when people get annoying |
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| [17:20:41] | david3r3: | Ok. I Got my mythtv working well, but I don't have a tuner. Can I hide the tuner related menus ? ( REcordings, watch TV, etc... ) |
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| [17:22:04] | iamlindoro: | You could edit your menu theme |
| [17:22:16] | wagnerrp: | david3r3: but mythtv is designed as a dvr |
| [17:22:22] | wagnerrp: | the frontend requires a backend to run |
| [17:22:31] | wagnerrp: | and the backend requires a tuner card, or it will error and close |
| [17:26:58] | FabriceMG: | hello , i'am in 0.24 PPA mythbuntu, and I have 1 problem with mythtranscode , he have 1 bug with audio output in fifo mode |
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| [17:29:24] | FabriceMG: | http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/2031585 |
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| [17:29:41] | FabriceMG: | 1 explication? |
| [17:30:52] | david3r3: | I am looking at the xml file now, looks pretty straight forward, thanks :D |
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| [17:32:39] | wagnerrp: | mythtranscode shouldnt be using on h264 video |
| [17:33:11] | wagnerrp: | FabriceMG: ^^^ |
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| [17:35:08] | FabriceMG: | wagnerrp, wrong, it's work perfectly in 0.23.1 !!!! |
| [17:35:35] | wagnerrp: | mythtranscode supports lossless transcode of mpeg2 to mpeg2 |
| [17:35:45] | wagnerrp: | and it supports lossy transcode to mpeg4asp and rtjpeg |
| [17:35:51] | FabriceMG: | the probleme is not video format h264 but , the audio |
| [17:35:58] | wagnerrp: | it cannot losslessly clip h264 |
| [17:36:29] | wagnerrp: | and transcoding from h264 to asp for anything but compatibility with some particular hardware decoder is just foolish |
| [17:36:50] | wagnerrp: | it may have errored on the audio |
| [17:36:59] | wagnerrp: | but its moot, since you shouldnt be using mythtranscode on that file anyway |
| [17:40:05] | FabriceMG: | 0.24, with new audio system , have 1 bug now, in 0.23.1 work properly, i have made more and more test |
| [17:40:41] | wagnerrp: | the point is... what are you trying to do exactly? |
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| [17:42:45] | wagnerrp: | if youre trying to losslessly cut, it will fail since you cant do that on h264 content in mythtranscode |
| [17:43:01] | wagnerrp: | if youre actually trying to transcode to a different format, you should really be using a better utility than mythtranscode |
| [17:43:15] | FabriceMG: | in 0.24 if your file have 6 audio channels, you have big chance mythtrancode don't work properly |
| [17:43:55] | FabriceMG: | I want confirmation that this bug is to not waste my time looking for a bug in my program |
| [17:43:58] | wagnerrp: | but your file only has 2 channel audio, not sure how you can make that claim |
| [17:45:11] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: i recall you running into some issues trying to dump audio through mythtranscode for nuvexport, that it would try to upmix the audio and break? |
| [17:45:25] | wagnerrp: | looks like hes running into the same issue here |
| [17:45:44] | FabriceMG: | mythtranscode is today the best way to extract you recordings in other format with the cutlist |
| [17:46:18] | wagnerrp: | mythtranscode is A way to do it |
| [17:46:31] | wagnerrp: | and if youre actually transcoding with it, youre using a garbage codec to do so |
| [17:47:26] | FabriceMG: | all work , but sometime the audio is broken for some recordings |
| [17:48:30] | FabriceMG: | i think , after , after , after reseach, it's the frequency is not good , i think |
| [17:48:34] | FabriceMG: | in raw mode |
| [17:48:55] | FabriceMG: | fifo -> audout |
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| [17:49:01] | wagnerrp: | the last thing in the log says its trying to resample the audio, and throwing an error |
| [17:49:37] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo saw something like that a couple weeks ago when messing with nuvexport, he would have a better idea what is going on |
| [17:49:47] | wagnerrp: | not resample, remix |
| [17:50:00] | wagnerrp: | resample changes the frequencies, remix changes the channels |
| [17:50:25] | wagnerrp: | it has decided to go from the source 2-channel AC3 up to 6-channel for some reason |
| [17:50:34] | FabriceMG: | i'am not 1 specialist of audio |
| [17:52:08] | FabriceMG: | I have yet to find the common factor for the bug on audio transcoding |
| [17:52:37] | Shadow__X: | wagnerrp: so as of right now you cant use mythtranscode to do remove the cutlist from a hdpvr recording using lossless |
| [17:52:50] | wagnerrp: | s/right now/ever/ |
| [17:53:07] | wagnerrp: | mythtranscode has never supported lossless cuts of h264 |
| [17:54:20] | Shadow__X: | so when i get a hdpvr how would i do lossless cuts of it from within mythtv |
| [17:55:33] | wagnerrp: | iamli ndoro has a script up that cuts using avidemux instead... http://mythtv.org/wiki/User:Iamlindoro |
| [17:55:35] | FabriceMG: | sample : 1 min of audio in real is out in 20 sec in raw mode |
| [17:55:49] | wagnerrp: | theres another on the wiki that does projectx that may work as well |
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| [17:56:14] | wagnerrp: | it cuts at keyframes only |
| [17:56:26] | wagnerrp: | so you will have some extra video around the cutpoints |
| [17:56:33] | david3r3: | Hey, I just merged the main menu and the media library menu, my MythTV is awesomer now :D Thanks for your help :D |
| [17:56:39] | Shadow__X: | which one the iamli or the projectx one |
| [17:57:07] | wagnerrp: | the projectx one does full cuts, but i dont know if it handles h264 |
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| [17:57:30] | wagnerrp: | iamli ndoro's one does h264, and was specifically for hdpvr content, but only cuts at keyframes |
| [17:58:08] | Shadow__X: | oh ok i gotcha. yeah i thought he had something working a while ago just forgot if it was merged in or not |
| [17:58:33] | wagnerrp: | merged in? |
| [17:59:19] | Shadow__X: | make it so you would not need to run a seperate script |
| [17:59:29] | wagnerrp: | ah, no |
| [17:59:39] | FabriceMG: | OK,ok, I finish my test with 0.23.1 with bugged recordings, and will be back later for this bug , ok? |
| [18:10:45] | Beirdo: | wagnerrp: yeah, if your source audio has 6 channels, mythtranscode (at least in --fifo mode) gives you 6-channel PCM |
| [18:11:00] | Beirdo: | which ffmpeg does not know how to deal with |
| [18:11:40] | Beirdo: | which is insane, granted, but there it is |
| [18:12:49] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: no, hes got 2 channel ac3, and mythtranscode wants to remix it to 6 channel for some resaon |
| [18:12:56] | wagnerrp: | i guess thats a different problem |
| [18:13:21] | Beirdo: | ummm, AC3 is 6 channel |
| [18:13:37] | wagnerrp: | ac3 is ac3, nothing says it has to be 6 channel |
| [18:14:01] | Beirdo: | when decoded, I think it's *always* 6 channel |
| [18:14:07] | wagnerrp: | ive got plenty of dvds and a handful of recordings with 2 channel audio |
| [18:14:27] | Beirdo: | I mean how ffmpeg deals with it |
| [18:14:43] | wagnerrp: | so ffmpeg is just hosed as far as ac3 is concerned |
| [18:14:55] | Beirdo: | not 100% sure there |
| [18:16:22] | Beirdo: | what does mythffmpeg say the file is? |
| [18:16:26] | Beirdo: | i.e. channels? |
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| [18:24:09] | Beirdo: | let's put it this way... 100% of the AC3 in my recordings has required downmixing from 6->2 channels |
| [18:24:22] | Beirdo: | your mileage may vary :) |
| [18:24:37] | wagnerrp: | well hes already in 2 channels, and it wants to upmix for some reason |
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| [18:24:53] | Beirdo: | hehe, likely related anyways |
| [18:25:18] | Beirdo: | if he wants to upmix using ffmpeg, I hope he has lots of patience |
| [18:26:12] | Beirdo: | now let's go see if any of the devs are in today... see what work I might be able to get done |
| [18:30:15] | wagnerrp: | the irony, finding a fabrice to help a fabrice |
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| [18:51:05] | Beirdo: | heh, these are not the devs that you are looking for. |
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| [18:51:23] | Beirdo: | I guess today will (hopefully) be a quiet one. |
| [18:51:44] | GreyFoxx: | hehe not for me |
| [18:51:54] | GreyFoxx: | i've got our main fe currently reinstalling |
| [18:51:54] | Beirdo: | no? |
| [18:51:59] | Beirdo: | eek |
| [18:52:02] | GreyFoxx: | and already had complaints ;) |
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| [18:52:33] | GreyFoxx: | i had to shoo them out of the room |
| [18:52:33] | Beirdo: | I had about 55 servers to take out of commission last week (after putting in 30 more powerful ones to replace them the week before) |
| [18:52:48] | GreyFoxx: | i told them we have plenty of tv's and other mythboxes they can go watch ;) |
| [18:52:54] | wagnerrp: | what did you do with the old ones? |
| [18:53:05] | Beirdo: | so I'm hoping for an uneventful week |
| [18:53:08] | Beirdo: | heh |
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| [18:53:20] | Beirdo: | nothing yet, they are in hot-standby until we are 100% sure |
| [18:53:33] | Beirdo: | then they will be unceremoniously ripped out of the racks |
| [18:54:00] | wagnerrp: | and? |
| [18:54:13] | wagnerrp: | just wondering, because on a 2-yr or so upgrade cycle, thats still decent stuff |
| [18:54:13] | Beirdo: | no longer my problem :) |
| [18:54:20] | Beirdo: | this is 5-yr |
| [18:54:29] | wagnerrp: | yeah, thats not so good stuff |
| [18:55:04] | Beirdo: | generally speaking, if there's still hope for the machines, they are stacked and used for emergency deploys |
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| [18:55:26] | Beirdo: | or vultured by other teams with even crappier hardware :) |
| [18:56:26] | Beirdo: | if I had my way... I'd put a trebuchet on the roof of the data center in Philly and see if we can hit Camden |
| [18:56:47] | Beirdo: | splashdown in the Delaware River would be cool too |
| [18:57:20] | Beirdo: | somehow, I don't think management will go for that plan |
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| [18:57:55] | wagnerrp: | just dont tell the sierra club... |
| [18:58:01] | wagnerrp: | ... or the coast guard for that matter |
| [18:58:04] | Beirdo: | pfft. |
| [18:58:16] | Beirdo: | that would decrease the pollution level of that river |
| [18:58:53] | Beirdo: | and if we hit Camden, bonus! |
| [18:59:23] | Beirdo: | sorry if any Camden residents in the channel, but if you're here, you know what Philly thinks of ya. |
| [19:01:22] | Beirdo: | Jersey always gets the short end of the stick :) |
| [19:02:08] | wagnerrp: | thats because people from Jersey are... different |
| [19:02:34] | wagnerrp: | that land changes them somehow |
| [19:02:59] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [19:03:16] | Beirdo: | Philly detests Camden... NYC detests Newark |
| [19:03:28] | Beirdo: | both rightfully so from what I've seen |
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| [19:06:37] | sphery: | "I have 12 tuners (with a patched mythtv to allow 20 virtual tuners per physical), so its not for the lack of tuners. " |
| [19:07:02] | sphery: | and MythTV scheduling doesn't work with my modified source--fix MythTV... |
| [19:07:08] | wagnerrp: | where is this? |
| [19:07:16] | sphery: | [mythtv-users] Recording every Movie does not work – Says it willrecord Earlier |
| [19:07:24] | sphery: | likely caused by scheduler overload |
| [19:07:41] | Beirdo: | WTF? |
| [19:07:43] | sphery: | as might be his [mythtv] Mythbackend – double free or corruption -v0.24-90-g3cf32e8/fixes/0.24 |
| [19:07:53] | sphery: | which is failing in the scheduler |
| [19:07:56] | Beirdo: | 20 virtual tuners per physical?! |
| [19:07:59] | sphery: | no joke |
| [19:08:05] | sphery: | why would he need 240 tuners |
| [19:08:13] | Beirdo: | how many multiplexes have 20 streams? |
| [19:08:16] | sphery: | and he's trying to do a rule to record every movie that airs |
| [19:08:24] | sphery: | sounds like a professional |
| [19:08:26] | Beirdo: | and if they did, would they be worth watching? |
| [19:08:45] | sphery: | well, I'm sure they'd compress down nicely for redistribution via nzb or whatever :) |
| [19:08:45] | wagnerrp: | isnt there some comment in the code about the 5-tuner hard limit? |
| [19:08:47] | Beirdo: | sounds like another Udo |
| [19:08:49] | wagnerrp: | about why its there? |
| [19:08:59] | sphery: | don't know if it's commented |
| [19:09:54] | sphery: | but, hey, it's open source, so I should be able to make random changes to the code and expect everything to still work |
| [19:10:21] | wagnerrp: | i like the 'v0.24-90-(hex-blah) |
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| [19:10:42] | sphery: | just like how I often change random bytes in MS binaries to make them better--it's basically what the universe does, too, just ask Darwin |
| [19:10:43] | Beirdo: | hahah |
| [19:11:16] | wagnerrp: | sphery: oh if only... |
| [19:11:22] | sphery: | real coders user mutation and evolution |
| [19:13:00] | wagnerrp: | real codes build the physical laws of the universe such that one daemon that gets spawned into the system is programmed with the necessary behavior to write the code in the manner you wish |
| [19:13:20] | wagnerrp: | intelligent design! it really exists to make a better mythtv! |
| [19:13:31] | sphery: | heh |
| [19:13:45] | sphery: | that's exactly what the Matrix was about, too |
| [19:13:55] | sphery: | as finally revealed at the end of the 3rd movie |
| [19:14:19] | wagnerrp: | wait, there were sequels? |
| [19:14:51] | sphery: | heh, I wish I didn't know of them |
| [19:14:54] | JEDIDIAH__: | obviously wagner wiped his own memory to save himself the trauma. |
| [19:15:41] | wagnerrp: | i still think its amusing there was a community project to remaster those three movies into a single one with all mention of Zion removed |
| [19:16:42] | sphery: | kormoc: Udo approves of your work and wanted to tell you that you need more indexes: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/466394#466394 |
| [19:16:42] | JEDIDIAH__: | there's an entire subculture dedicated to fixing movies. |
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| [19:17:41] | JEDIDIAH__: | although removing zion kind of might put a damper on the first film. |
| [19:17:59] | sphery: | kormoc: as, obviously, the changes you made prior to 0.24-fixes must have been the addition of indexes--since nothing else could possibly speed up queries, and--of course--MythTV developers would never think of using indexes, so we must have been missing them |
| [19:18:10] | Beirdo: | hehe |
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| [19:18:25] | sphery: | just throw a few more in there and we should be done |
| [19:18:33] | Beirdo: | I see he crawled back into his "massive memory leak" hole though |
| [19:18:38] | wagnerrp: | JEDIDIAH__: well i assume they left the two hovership operators around, and didnt somehow make the thing autopilot controlled |
| [19:18:55] | kormoc: | Hahaha |
| [19:19:04] | Beirdo: | after much bluster telling us that we're doomed... he found exactly what I told him. |
| [19:19:17] | sphery: | actually, looks like--based on the ratio--we need 175 new indexes |
| [19:19:26] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [19:19:37] | sphery: | 90197840 / 514679 |
| [19:19:49] | kormoc: | it's funny how I sneaked them in without a schema update |
| [19:19:56] | sphery: | yeah |
| [19:19:58] | ** kormoc is a sql ninja ** | |
| [19:20:11] | sphery: | and no way all your other DB design changes were related |
| [19:20:23] | Beirdo: | couldn't be |
| [19:24:00] | Beirdo: | can someone please slap agraham with the "how to debug mythtv" clue-by-4? |
| [19:24:05] | sphery: | heh |
| [19:24:45] | wagnerrp: | or a 'we cant fix edits that we cant see' |
| [19:24:51] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [19:25:12] | Beirdo: | (hex-blah) |
| [19:25:16] | Beirdo: | uh...huh. |
| [19:25:25] | Beirdo: | more like (hex-blah)-dirty |
| [19:25:59] | Beirdo: | and then gives a "backtrace" on the other thread... with no backtrace info |
| [19:26:09] | Beirdo: | WHACK |
| [19:26:25] | sphery: | I just sent a little clue |
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| [19:28:54] | Beirdo: | and how many frickin movies does one moron need? |
| [19:29:05] | sphery: | I really think that this is not one moron |
| [19:29:10] | sphery: | I think it's one professional |
| [19:29:30] | sphery: | whether that's a licensed professional or a license-evading professional, I'll leave for others to decide |
| [19:29:34] | Beirdo: | if he's redistributing these movies, he's a moron |
| [19:29:50] | sphery: | we need to add some watermarks to the recordings ;) |
| [19:30:04] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [19:30:19] | sphery: | I mean, really, I don't see any reason any user would need 240 tuners |
| [19:30:30] | Beirdo: | stenographic messages indicating the IP, etc of the person recording it... |
| [19:30:37] | FabriceMG: | wagnerrp, Beirdo, thanks for your time, i will come later after many test, and tell a problem in dev's channel |
| [19:30:41] | sphery: | now if there were 40 users or so, ... |
| [19:31:12] | Beirdo: | but 40 users... is outside the licensing of TV, no? |
| [19:31:15] | Saviq: | hi all, does mythvideo 0.24 update metadata regardless of the 'automatically download metadata' setting? also, is there a way to limit the languages in which it retrieves it? I'm getting cyrillic russian descriptions just because I'm in central europe... |
| [19:31:17] | wagnerrp: | sphery: that would require transcoding |
| [19:31:31] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: big family? |
| [19:31:36] | Saviq: | (update != download for new items) |
| [19:31:40] | Beirdo: | *personal* use :) |
| [19:31:41] | sphery: | which would? 40 users sharing a mythbackend? |
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| [19:32:00] | Beirdo: | yes, pretty hard to write that off as time-shifting |
| [19:32:04] | wagnerrp: | maybe he has a big plot of land, and his extended family has set up a trailer park in his back yard |
| [19:32:23] | Beirdo: | that's still outside licensing agreements, typically |
| [19:32:38] | sphery: | did you mean transcoding for space or bandwidth? |
| [19:32:52] | wagnerrp: | transcoding to insert watermarks |
| [19:32:56] | sphery: | ahhh |
| [19:33:04] | sphery: | I wasn't linking that back |
| [19:33:09] | Beirdo: | yeah, that's a shame :) |
| [19:33:26] | sphery: | we could just modify bits in the stream, though, right |
| [19:33:46] | wagnerrp: | sure, but it would never survive a remux |
| [19:33:46] | Beirdo: | I mean, my personal use is already close to the edge of what we are supposed to be allowed |
| [19:33:51] | sphery: | or containerize the untranscoded recording in an msdrm wrapper |
| [19:33:59] | Beirdo: | i.e. timeshifting programs like a VCR |
| [19:34:28] | sphery: | then rewrite the kernel so you can't modify or copy those files |
| [19:34:44] | Beirdo: | when you record more programming than there are hours in the day (per person in the family), it starts to cross into grey territory |
| [19:35:24] | sphery: | Beirdo: it's still time-shifting... he's just shifting stuff for the year 2187 |
| [19:35:25] | kormoc: | his double free is caused likely because his scheduler query result set is larger then mysql max packet size |
| [19:35:37] | Beirdo: | kormoc: yeah :) |
| [19:35:38] | kormoc: | and so mysql is dumping the connection and qt doesn't handle it gracefully |
| [19:35:43] | sphery: | kormoc: nice... you should reply |
| [19:35:54] | ** Beirdo hands kormoc the clue-by-4 ** | |
| [19:36:20] | sphery: | I did tell him to revert his changes and test, but additional responses (especially a technical response) would lend credence |
| [19:37:13] | Beirdo: | I'd laugh pretty hard if he's hitting open file descriptor limits too |
| [19:37:29] | kormoc: | I'll reply in a bit, gotta get some work done |
| [19:37:43] | Beirdo: | heh :) |
| [19:38:25] | sphery: | I have a feeling we'll get a reply... "I found that it works if I use only 10 virtual tuners per physical tuner. So, now I'm off to buy 20 more physical tuners." (at which point he'd be back to the same place he's at now--both in terms of tuners and SQL result sets ;) |
| [19:39:28] | high-rez: | Any of you played with blu-ray 3d? Is the 3d data stored as a separate track in the transport stream or is it encoded in the original video track? |
| [19:39:44] | high-rez: | I'm looking at a 3d movie, and the m2ts doesn't appear to have anything interesting in it. |
| [19:39:49] | wagnerrp: | um... neither? |
| [19:39:50] | kormoc: | oh lordy. A thread on getting the auto-letterboxing working on a ion? That can't end well... |
| [19:39:56] | wagnerrp: | there is no such thing as 3d bluray |
| [19:40:22] | wagnerrp: | kormoc: its a playback profile such that anything <720p gets played back in software |
| [19:40:29] | wagnerrp: | completely bypassing the whole vdpau issue |
| [19:40:44] | high-rez: | wagnerrp: Ok. What do you call bluray movies made for 3d tvs then ? |
| [19:41:05] | kormoc: | sure, but my mini uses a fair bit of oomph to do it, it's not like it's free |
| [19:41:16] | wagnerrp: | a fantasy? ive only ever seen a handful of '3dtvs', and theyre all hideously low resolution |
| [19:41:23] | wagnerrp: | like 512x384 or so |
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| [19:42:03] | high-rez: | How about. The 'farse 3d' that's being sold. That's what I'm asking about. Where you have two images, split up/down or left/right with a 45 pixel buffer. I'm asking – how does that work ? |
| [19:42:14] | wagnerrp: | you mean stereoscopic tvs |
| [19:42:22] | high-rez: | Sure |
| [19:42:22] | sphery: | oh, wait, he has 12 tuners... he'll only need to buy 12 more physical tuners to get back to where he's at if he halves the virtual tuner limit |
| [19:42:27] | wagnerrp: | no, dont know anything about how that is set up |
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| [19:44:47] | sphery: | kormoc: the solution was to not use VDPAU for standard def recordings--with the assumption that only SDTV recordings are letterboxed |
| [19:45:08] | sphery: | I was worried when I saw the subject, too |
| [19:45:22] | Shadow__X: | what about hd recordings that have sd letterboxed content within |
| [19:45:31] | wagnerrp: | theyre still broken |
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| [19:45:47] | wagnerrp: | s/broken/not automatically handled by vdpau' |
| [19:46:14] | sphery: | Shadow__X: ION users aren't allowed to record those :) |
| [19:46:28] | sphery: | actually, his approach isn't bad and might get some |
| [19:47:04] | sphery: | I still think, however, that the whole auto-detect-letterboxing is a big waste |
| [19:47:08] | sphery: | it's not hard to change the zoom |
| [19:47:12] | sphery: | we even have a key for that |
| [19:47:27] | kormoc: | but my remote doesn't have a button for it |
| [19:47:33] | ** kormoc shifty eyes ** | |
| [19:47:35] | high-rez: | hmm, so it appears that "blu-ray 3d" interleaves ssif files, which are just mpeg2 transport streams. |
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| [19:48:04] | wagnerrp: | so it just has two separate video streams |
| [19:49:09] | Captain_Murdoch: | sphery, better to just do it as a post-process job instead of trying to do realtime. I like the idea of auto zooming, but a single code base would be good. it's the same reason I dropped on-the-fly commercial detection years ago since it couldn't be used with any hardware decoding. |
| [19:49:12] | high-rez: | So I'm guessing it sets up two output canvases, puts the 45 pixel separation betweeen them, and plays the separate frames in sync |
| [19:49:31] | high-rez: | Does VDPAU support outputting two video streams at once ? |
| [19:49:36] | sphery: | Captain_Murdoch: I agree that part of the commflag or some new post-processing would be useful |
| [19:49:36] | wagnerrp: | no |
| [19:49:45] | wagnerrp: | supposedly the hardware does support it |
| [19:49:48] | wagnerrp: | but the API does not |
| [19:49:53] | sphery: | Captain_Murdoch: just think auto zoom is pretty useless |
| [19:50:09] | wagnerrp: | 45-pixel separation? |
| [19:50:14] | high-rez: | Right. |
| [19:50:19] | wagnerrp: | why? |
| [19:50:22] | Shadow__X: | high-rez: this may sound far fetched but can you have vdpau output one stream while cpu takes care of the other one? |
| [19:50:24] | high-rez: | Therese a barrier between the two frames, apparently 45 pixels by spec. |
| [19:50:29] | sphery: | especially since it just zooms to a specific location in the frame--not the location with the video |
| [19:50:31] | Captain_Murdoch: | sphery, it's not just one keystroke, a lot of times it's multiple, even if you have a key bound to 'W' or whatever it is. |
| [19:50:48] | wagnerrp: | barrier where? |
| [19:50:52] | sphery: | I.e. it assumes the actual image is centered within (and, at least on my channels, it's not) |
| [19:50:58] | Captain_Murdoch: | sphery, yeah, needs to be exact and post-procesing makes that easier. |
| [19:51:04] | high-rez: | wagnerrp: I guess haviung the 45 pixels of black allows the TVs to figure out the difference between left/right or top/bottom |
| [19:51:10] | wagnerrp: | you mean it actually sends the data to the TV at 3885x1080? |
| [19:51:17] | sphery: | Captain_Murdoch: yeah... I often use manual zoom, though--so I can actually get the whole picture without cutting things off |
| [19:51:38] | sphery: | sometimes I end up with a small pillarbox or a small letterbox or sometimes I end up having to move up or down |
| [19:51:41] | high-rez: | wagnerrp: Yeah |
| [19:51:52] | wagnerrp: | thats just retarded |
| [19:51:53] | high-rez: | wagnerrp: http://hdguru.com/3d-hdtv-and-hdmi-explained/1336/ |
| [19:51:54] | wagnerrp: | doesnt HDMI support sending multiple video streams? |
| [19:52:02] | sphery: | I just don't like the current implementation, and we'd really need a better implementation (like you mentioned) to get my support |
| [19:52:06] | Captain_Murdoch: | sphery, :) me too, and I'm sure I'll use it more frequently over the next couple weeks with all the zoomed-out video with local crawlers running because of the recent snow snorm. |
| [19:52:15] | sphery: | heh, yeah |
| [19:52:25] | high-rez: | wangerrp: It appears as one stream, with the separateion between the two parts. My bro in laws '3d' tv allows you to sleect wether the 3d is top/bottom or left/right... |
| [19:52:40] | sphery: | at least my local stations tend to ruin the whole recording with weather notices--rather than scrollers, they interrupt the whole show |
| [19:52:48] | Captain_Murdoch: | that was the reason I wrote the manual zoom code originally. :) can't recall if it was a snow storm or election results, but it was the local crawlers I was trying to get rid of. |
| [19:52:49] | wagnerrp: | top/bottom would work better for us |
| [19:53:02] | wagnerrp: | video cards like to render square |
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| [19:53:11] | high-rez: | wagnerrp: I think the 1.4 spec upgrade is basically allowing the extra bandwidth required to send the monsterous display resolution. |
| [19:53:12] | wagnerrp: | something to do with the memory ordering in the framebuffer |
| [19:53:19] | sphery: | like the Polar Express recording I had--more than 40 minutes of cut to weather center (missed movie) and 30+ minutes of scrollers taking up almost 3/4 of the display |
| [19:53:27] | sphery: | gotta love my local broadcasters\ |
| [19:53:44] | wagnerrp: | high-rez: why not allow it to have multiple video streams, so you can actually handle stereoscopic output properly |
| [19:53:52] | wagnerrp: | rather than some crude hack where you double the resolution |
| [19:54:03] | wagnerrp: | its all software anyway |
| [19:54:20] | high-rez: | wagnerrp: Don't ask me, I didn't write the spec. I was expecting that they would just double the frame rate – but it looks like they've doubled the resolution instead... |
| [19:54:25] | wagnerrp: | the hardware only provides the bitstreaming interface, and multiplexing over the three available channels |
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| [19:55:01] | Shadow__X: | have the packager scripts been updated to use github? |
| [19:55:03] | wagnerrp: | you give it independent named channels, the tv can decide what to do with it |
| [19:55:14] | wagnerrp: | there is no need to tinker around with various settings |
| [19:55:17] | sphery: | wagnerrp: you're not allowed to call it 1.4 |
| [19:55:23] | sphery: | that's in violation of hte specification |
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| [19:55:55] | sphery: | It's "High Speed HDMI cable" |
| [19:56:04] | sphery: | numbers not allowed |
| [19:56:10] | tobi-wan-kenobi: | hello! i have some issues getting epg/eit to work – i have a 3-lns diseqc switch and a dvb-t antenna. for the first source (dvb-t or dvb-s) i configure, epg works perfectly fine, for the others, no data is fetched, as far as i can see. i am using mythbuntu 10.10 and have configured separate video sources for each input (so, 4 in total). i would really appreciate any help! |
| [19:56:25] | wagnerrp: | oh great, so now were back to the whole USB mes |
| [19:56:29] | sphery: | so soon, we'll have the same confu... |
| [19:56:30] | sphery: | exactly |
| [19:56:35] | wagnerrp: | when we get another bump, it wil be superspeed |
| [19:56:39] | sphery: | because people are too stupid to understand numbers |
| [19:56:40] | wagnerrp: | and then ultraspeed |
| [19:56:42] | wagnerrp: | and turbospeed |
| [19:56:47] | Crys: | hyperspeed |
| [19:56:49] | wagnerrp: | and ridiculousspeed |
| [19:56:50] | Crys: | megaspeed |
| [19:56:53] | sphery: | and ludicrous speed |
| [19:56:54] | wagnerrp: | and ludicrouspeed |
| [19:56:56] | high-rez: | wagnerrp: So it appears, that to implement stereoscopic bluray playback, someone would need to keep the two decodes in sync, and then play them out in sync to two separate cavases separated by 45 pixels of 'active blanking' |
| [19:57:31] | wagnerrp: | high-rez: sounds like you would have to do that entirely within software |
| [19:57:33] | Crys: | see, plenty of names left |
| [19:57:41] | wagnerrp: | as the VDPAU decoder doesnt support such things |
| [19:58:16] | wagnerrp: | so it seems there is no hard set limit to virtual tuners in the code? |
| [19:58:48] | wagnerrp: | just that the spinbox only goes up to 5 |
| [19:59:45] | wagnerrp: | https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/blob/master/ . . . rce.cpp#L122 |
| [20:01:54] | sphery: | wagnerrp: right--the UI was changed to limit the number to a reasonable, tested configuration |
| [20:02:09] | sphery: | as you increase beyong 5, the performance degrades significantly--non-linearly |
| [20:02:22] | sphery: | and, likely with 12x20, you end up overloading things |
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| [20:02:28] | sphery: | since no one tested that configuration |
| [20:02:43] | sphery: | guess that means there's no comment, though |
| [20:02:46] | Shadow__X: | overloading what |
| [20:02:51] | sphery: | the scheduler |
| [20:02:55] | sphery: | the mysql result set |
| [20:02:59] | Shadow__X: | oh ok |
| [20:03:02] | sphery: | the stuff that's used in scheduling |
| [20:03:19] | sphery: | I don't know exactly what, but it seems that agraham has an opportunity to find out |
| [20:03:40] | Shadow__X: | i wonder how much storage he has |
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| [20:03:48] | wagnerrp: | 400GB |
| [20:04:04] | wagnerrp: | movies only stay on his hard drives for two days |
| [20:04:16] | sphery: | heh |
| [20:04:16] | jstenback: | wagnerrp: Hey there, I'm trying to use your mythvidexport.py script here, got a sec for a python binding question? |
| [20:04:17] | Shadow__X: | that sounds legit |
| [20:04:23] | wagnerrp: | shoot |
| [20:04:27] | sphery: | but if he records 240 shows for 1 hour, he could overshoot that 400GB |
| [20:04:51] | wagnerrp: | not if those 20 shows are limited to 12 physical channels |
| [20:04:56] | wagnerrp: | 240 |
| [20:05:25] | wagnerrp: | youre looking at ~200GB/hr or so maximum |
| [20:05:40] | jstenback: | wagnerrp: I'm running into a problem where the bindings can't find the BackendServerIP for hostname.domain.tld here, and the reason being (I think) that I have a LocalHostName set that is the hostname only, w/o any domain names in it |
| [20:05:58] | jstenback: | wagnerrp: the LocalHostName is set in ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt |
| [20:06:08] | jstenback: | wagnerrp: but it seems the bindings don't read that file |
| [20:06:13] | wagnerrp: | the python bindings dont read mysql.txt |
| [20:06:19] | wagnerrp: | they do read config.xml |
| [20:06:20] | jstenback: | right |
| [20:06:20] | jstenback: | ok |
| [20:06:34] | wagnerrp: | and i thought i set it up to handle localhostname when defined in the config.xml |
| [20:06:34] | sphery: | wagnerrp: heh, yeah, forgot about that part |
| [20:06:42] | sphery: | still, 2 hours would fill it :) |
| [20:06:59] | jstenback: | wagnerrp: so yeah, my followup question is what the syntax is for defining LocalHostName in config.xml |
| [20:07:06] | sphery: | I still think it's a suspect setup |
| [20:07:24] | wagnerrp: | <LocalHostName>your.host.name.com</LocalHostName> |
| [20:07:42] | jstenback: | wagnerrp: under DefaultBackend in the XML? |
| [20:07:54] | wagnerrp: | i think thats where i have it set up to read from |
| [20:07:58] | sphery: | https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/blob/master/ . . . s/config.xml |
| [20:08:24] | jstenback: | wagnerrp: lemme play around a bit... |
| [20:10:06] | wagnerrp: | sphery: witness the magic of 3d glasses... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN3UnhrEU6Y#t=2m8s |
| [20:11:58] | sphery: | is there audio? |
| [20:12:11] | wagnerrp: | there should be |
| [20:12:20] | sphery: | wonder if it requires newer flash |
| [20:12:21] | wagnerrp: | hes got the glasses on, feeling the other guy |
| [20:12:27] | wagnerrp: | saying 'its like i can touch you' |
| [20:12:31] | sphery: | oh, no, requires plugging in my speakers |
| [20:12:45] | sphery: | (was using a headset to video chat with my nephew last night) |
| [20:14:18] | sphery: | heh, much better with audio |
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| [20:18:41] | tobi-wan-kenobi: | sorry for bugging you, but i'd really love to get mythtv running smoothly, and having a huge part of the channels without EIT information is really annoying :-( EIT from different sources SHOULD work in principle, right? |
| [20:19:27] | [R]: | tobi-wan-kenobi: different soruces? |
| [20:19:41] | tobi-wan-kenobi: | dvb-s and dvb-t, in my case |
| [20:19:56] | wagnerrp: | you mean use EIT from a dvb-t source on dvb-s channels? |
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| [20:20:12] | tobi-wan-kenobi: | no, i want to use the EIT from dvb-t on dvb-t and the EIT from dvb-s on dvb-s |
| [20:20:32] | tobi-wan-kenobi: | my problem is: the first adapter i add works perfectly fine, the second just does not use its EIT data for some reason |
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| [20:21:10] | wagnerrp: | why not just use a proper xmltv provider? |
| [20:21:28] | wagnerrp: | http://www.epgdata.com/?action=newSubscriptio . . . amp;iOEM=VDR |
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| [20:22:16] | tobi-wan-kenobi: | thanks for the hint. my idea was that, at least in europe, EIT should work at least OK, and it is free |
| [20:22:16] | wagnerrp: | http://wiki.xmltv.org/index.php/Europe |
| [20:22:39] | wagnerrp: | no idea of its usefulness in other countries |
| [20:22:46] | wagnerrp: | but at least over here in the states, its crap |
| [20:22:55] | tobi-wan-kenobi: | i heard that, too :-) |
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| [20:23:13] | tobi-wan-kenobi: | you see, my problem is: using it for dvb-s works perfectly fine, all data correct |
| [20:23:29] | tobi-wan-kenobi: | but then, i don't see any information for dvb-t (or vice versa, if i configure dvb-t first) |
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| [20:23:37] | tobi-wan-kenobi: | i just don't get what i am doing wrong |
| [20:23:57] | wagnerrp: | scanning multiple sources independently /should/ work fine |
| [20:24:12] | sphery: | tobi-wan-kenobi: and you do have multiple video sources defined in mythtv, right? |
| [20:24:14] | wagnerrp: | never actually used it though |
| [20:24:35] | sphery: | i.e. one for dvb-t channels and a different one for dvb-s channels |
| [20:25:10] | tobi-wan-kenobi: | sphery: yes, indeed. two, at the moment |
| [20:25:43] | sphery: | and you've enabled EIT/on-air guide on both sources and left it enabled on the channels on those sources? |
| [20:25:48] | tobi-wan-kenobi: | i even configured a few channels manually to make sure the correct source is set |
| [20:26:01] | tobi-wan-kenobi: | sphery: yes, definitively |
| [20:26:18] | sphery: | and are using active eit? |
| [20:26:46] | tobi-wan-kenobi: | sorry, you lost me there... how do i do that? (sorry if the question is dumb) |
| [20:27:25] | wagnerrp: | is active the one that runs when youre actively using the tuners? |
| [20:27:28] | wagnerrp: | or is that passive? |
| [20:28:39] | sphery: | tobi-wan-kenobi: "Use DVB Card for active EIT scan" setting in mythtv-setup |
| [20:28:44] | sphery: | (video sources area?) |
| [20:28:46] | tobi-wan-kenobi: | ah, thanks |
| [20:28:57] | sphery: | passive is when you're using the tuners |
| [20:29:14] | sphery: | IIRC, there was a ticket that said passive does not working during live tv |
| [20:29:32] | tobi-wan-kenobi: | i set the 'use dvb card...' for both cards |
| [20:29:48] | tobi-wan-kenobi: | but i also tried setting it only on the card that does not show EIT data |
| [20:30:08] | tobi-wan-kenobi: | i think i still don't get the difference between active and passive :-( |
| [20:30:13] | sphery: | out of curiosity, if you disable if for the dvb-t (the one getting EIT data, now), does it work for dvb-s (the one not getting gdata)? |
| [20:30:32] | tobi-wan-kenobi: | i'll give that a try, hold on a sec |
| [20:30:46] | sphery: | oh, that setting is on capture card setup... should have been able to guess that :) |
| [20:31:05] | sphery: | also, do you have exactly 2 capture cards? one dvb-t and one dvb-s? |
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| [20:31:25] | tobi-wan-kenobi: | yes, exactly two. but the dvb-s is connected to 3 LNBs, if that is important... |
| [20:31:36] | sphery: | oh, that may be very important |
| [20:31:50] | sphery: | looking up something |
| [20:32:48] | tobi-wan-kenobi: | sphery: disabling the active EIT scan on the dvb-t helped... i could have sworn i already tried that |
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| [20:33:27] | sphery: | tobi-wan-kenobi: ok, ... see, also, http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/7701 (though if disabling scan on dvb-t made it start using dvb-s eit, that may not be the issue) |
| [20:34:14] | sphery: | I don't know anything about eit (or dvb, for that matter), but I've heard people saying that sometimes when you enable eit on multiple cards the drivers can get all messed up and eit won't work on some |
| [20:34:16] | tobi-wan-kenobi: | sphery: i added the dvb-s channels using a full scan, so that ticket does not apply to me, i guess |
| [20:34:29] | sphery: | that might be related--but you'd need to check with someone who knows what they're talking about |
| [20:34:32] | tobi-wan-kenobi: | i can easily believe that of the drivers :-( not the first issue here |
| [20:34:45] | sphery: | different card types, I assume? |
| [20:34:52] | sphery: | are they using different drivers, too? |
| [20:35:24] | tobi-wan-kenobi: | yes, usb dvb-t stick and pci-(x? e?) s2 card, from the same vendor, though |
| [20:35:40] | sphery: | hmmm |
| [20:35:43] | tobi-wan-kenobi: | but thanks to you, i can now at least choose which EIT source not to receive :-P |
| [20:35:51] | sphery: | heh |
| [20:36:04] | sphery: | well, I don't think I'll be able to help anymore |
| [20:36:23] | sphery: | but maybe that will give you the info you need to give someone who knows EIT stuff |
| [20:36:43] | sphery: | could try the mythtv-users mailing list if you don't find someone here... more people will see the question that way |
| [20:36:48] | sphery: | good luck |
| [20:37:31] | tobi-wan-kenobi: | thanks for the help, i will try that! |
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| [20:50:20] | sphery: | ok, cool that people are doing stuff with Kinect, but klirc... |
| [20:50:31] | sphery: | who wants to control MythTV by flailing around on a couch? |
| [20:50:47] | kormoc: | sphery, little boys with brothers |
| [20:50:55] | sphery: | heh |
| [20:51:06] | kormoc: | "Mom! Dave punched me!" "No I didn't! I just changed the channel!" |
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| [21:02:07] | awalls: | klirc could be useful to me if it could keep track of the real remote control and tell me the last place the kids put it |
| [21:02:21] | wagnerrp: | ooh... 8fdfa7589 |
| [21:02:28] | wagnerrp: | ill have to update the bindings for that one |
| [21:02:54] | wagnerrp: | Captain_Murdoch: should that one get a proto bump? |
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| [21:03:04] | Captain_Murdoch: | wagnerrp, no, proto didn't change |
| [21:03:07] | wagnerrp: | theres no change in syntax, but there is certainly a change in functionality |
| [21:03:22] | Captain_Murdoch: | not really, just not failing anymore if someone tried to do it. :) |
| [21:03:42] | Captain_Murdoch: | could probably go either way. but I'd say it was a bugfix. |
| [21:04:22] | Captain_Murdoch: | you just can now write to myth://SG@host/subdir/file instead of just myth://SG@host/file |
| [21:06:08] | ** Captain_Murdoch wishes we had a 'mythutil' binary because then he could commit his --copyfile SRCFILE DESTFILE code instead of hacking it into mythcommflag for testing. ** | |
| [21:06:53] | [R]: | why do people want to control myth with kinect |
| [21:07:01] | [R]: | i dont wnt to stand up and dance |
| [21:07:03] | [R]: | to watch tv |
| [21:09:55] | GreyFoxx: | I'd love to play with voice controls. Not so sure about the motion stuff though |
| [21:12:04] | ** Captain_Murdoch swats at a fly and accidentally deletes a whole season of NCIS. ** | |
| [21:12:12] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [21:13:20] | GreyFoxx: | hrm, the taskbars are still visible on my newly installed ubuntu based frontend |
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| [21:17:21] | ** GreyFoxx learns the joys of autohide... wheee ** | |
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| [21:23:33] | punkerstein: | could anyone help me? problems with analog tv in 0.24 |
| [21:24:29] | punkerstein: | #list |
| [21:24:34] | iamlindoro: | You won't know until you ask a question... |
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| [21:25:24] | punkerstein: | i get segmentation fault all the time. can't change channels. can't scan channels in mythtv-setup......... |
| [21:27:32] | punkerstein: | could anyone help me? problems with analog tv in 0.24 |
| [21:27:35] | punkerstein: | i get segmentation fault all the time. can't change channels. can't scan channels in mythtv-setup......... |
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| [21:34:01] | punkerstein: | ??? |
| [21:35:50] | iamlindoro: | relax, this is IRC, not the cable company's live one on one chat. Answers take hours sometimes, not minutes. If you're getting segfaults you should be producing backtraces per the manul/wiki debugging pages. If you have other issues they should be explained in detail with accompanying frontend and backend logs pasted to mythtv.pastebin.com |
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| [21:36:08] | iamlindoro: | er mythtv.pastebin.ca |
| [21:36:33] | punkerstein: | sorry, my fault. |
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| [21:39:07] | punkerstein: | i just thought that it is a common problem, and that i could get answer fast. |
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| [22:21:23] | jstenback: | wagnerrp: fwiw, it seems like the mythvideoexport.py must run on the master backend to work. Otherwise it seems to get confused about what host to use in various places... Didn't dig too deep though, as I got it to run on the master |
| [22:21:41] | jstenback: | s/must/ script must/ |
| [22:22:43] | jstenback: | wagnerrp: I'm also not having much luck getting it to copy the seek table over here |
| [22:23:13] | jstenback: | I'll probably dig into that later on, unless it's a known problem that's already been fixed somewhere. I'm running 0.24 |
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| [22:41:04] | momelod: | greetings channel |
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| [22:41:57] | momelod: | i notice that when using the Terra theme some of my videos show the video quality ie: 720p/1080p when i hit the "I" key for information during playback. |
| [22:42:33] | momelod: | how does mythvideo determine this? and why does it not work for all my videos? |
| [22:43:07] | [R]: | momelod: recording videos or video videos? |
| [22:43:20] | momelod: | video videos |
| [22:43:29] | [R]: | depends on the video and the metadata in it |
| [22:43:50] | iamlindoro: | during playback, it's determined by the dimensions of the video itself |
| [22:44:00] | iamlindoro: | it'll say 720p if it's 720p |
| [22:44:08] | iamlindoro: | it'll say 1080p if it's 1080p |
| [22:44:26] | momelod: | doesn't seem to work on all my videos tho. |
| [22:44:29] | iamlindoro: | but bear in mind, 1280x720 progressive is 720p, and not anything else |
| [22:44:44] | iamlindoro: | Some of your videos aren't the correct exact dimensions |
| [22:45:59] | iamlindoro: | likewise, 1080p/i will only display if the video is 1920x1080, not 1920xwhateveryoutrimmeditto |
| [22:46:05] | momelod: | is there a cli command i can use to see the dimensions of a video file? |
| [22:46:11] | iamlindoro: | ffmpeg -i filename |
| [22:48:50] | momelod: | thank you, that clarifies it |
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| [22:58:47] | momelod: | my next question, how do i force a metadata retrieval on newly added videos? |
| [22:59:29] | momelod: | i am running myth 0.24 |
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| [23:07:11] | sphery: | momelod: select it and hit w? |
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| [23:08:32] | [R]: | i thought it automatically did it |
| [23:08:38] | [R]: | i added a file like 2 days ago |
| [23:08:43] | [R]: | and when i went to it |
| [23:08:48] | [R]: | it had the description already |
| [23:09:35] | sphery: | maybe you have a jamu cronjob? |
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| [23:13:46] | [R]: | no i dont |
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| [23:13:50] | [R]: | but it was right away |
| [23:13:53] | [R]: | like i added the file |
| [23:13:55] | [R]: | iwent into mythvideo |
| [23:13:58] | [R]: | and boom, it was there |
| [23:19:46] | iamlindoro: | when auto-metadata grabbing is on, it'll query metadata when a file is added |
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