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| [00:03:20] | wagnerrp: | there is, http://mythtv.org/wiki/Windows |
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| [01:01:08] | Beirdo: | OMG, mytharchive is craptacular :) |
| [01:03:07] | Beirdo: | Of course, I probably borked it :) |
| [01:03:59] | jams: | it's a bit awkward to use, but it did work |
| [01:04:31] | Beirdo: | heh, well, I changed all the system calls to myth_system, etc. I'm sure I borked something, but I'll fix it :) |
| [01:04:54] | Beirdo: | it's having issues with the work dir right now, it seems |
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| [01:05:20] | Beirdo: | 2010-11–27 16:59:14.259 MythNativeWizard: Failed to open file for writing – /tmp/archive/work/Outlaw/1005_20101113200000.mpg.xml |
| [01:05:27] | Beirdo: | bet that was my bad though |
| [01:05:44] | jams: | i would think so, assuming that /tmp/archive is present |
| [01:06:07] | jams: | i don't remember if it actually made the top level dir |
| [01:06:38] | Beirdo: | it is :) I read that from /tmp/archive/logs/progress.log |
| [01:06:57] | jams: | on another note my 256GB usb flash drives showed up, and they work |
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| [01:07:15] | jams: | i was a bit worried as the price and website was a bit suspect |
| [01:07:55] | wagnerrp: | thats a rather massive flash drive |
| [01:08:04] | nutron: | how much was it jams? |
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| [01:08:30] | jams: | roughly $100 i think |
| [01:09:17] | nutron: | hmm and you filled it/deleted it with 256g of datas? |
| [01:09:49] | jams: | not yet, just made sure it showed up as 256 and worked with some small files |
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| [01:11:00] | wagnerrp: | does something like that come pre-formatted? |
| [01:11:18] | jams: | yes it does |
| [01:11:44] | jams: | bayflashdrive.com |
| [01:11:52] | nutron: | hmm, I remember reading quite some time ago, that some unscrupulous sellers on ebay were somehow modifying the drives to show up as something they're not. |
| [01:11:54] | wagnerrp: | UDF? |
| [01:12:02] | wagnerrp: | its certainly not fat32 at that size |
| [01:12:50] | jams: | it shows up as vfat |
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| [01:15:24] | Beirdo: | 2010-11–27 17:14:32.665 Failed to change permissions on archive work directory: No such file or directory |
| [01:15:27] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [01:15:33] | Beirdo: | pretty sure that was me too |
| [01:16:15] | Beirdo: | changed a mkdir to a mkpath |
| [01:16:41] | Beirdo: | but it's building the ISO |
| [01:17:31] | Beirdo: | hahaha |
| [01:17:47] | Beirdo: | Create Archive belches on my > 4G recording |
| [01:20:17] | Beirdo: | and Create DVD core dumps |
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| [01:48:13] | pembo13: | what exactly does this mean?: |
| [01:48:15] | pembo13: | Client speaks protocol version 56 but we speak 23056 |
| [01:48:25] | pembo13: | i'm getting this with no client explictly connected to the backend |
| [01:51:11] | wagnerrp: | it means a 0.23 client is trying to speak to your 0.23.1 backend |
| [01:51:29] | pembo13: | wagnerrp: as far as i know i have no other clients connected |
| [01:51:40] | pembo13: | wagnerrp: i've just turned on mybackend for the first itme in months |
| [01:52:26] | wagnerrp: | mythweb perhaps? are you running mythbuntu and have jamu running on a cron? |
| [01:53:14] | eyeoh: | I'm going to try a reboot now |
| [01:53:16] | pembo13: | wagnerrp: no, found a machine i haven't used for awhile with mythforntend on |
| [01:53:27] | pembo13: | it's probably beeing looping looking for a bkacned all this time |
| [01:53:30] | eyeoh: | also, I did most likely install another version before this, accidentally (didn't complete) |
| [01:53:47] | eyeoh: | so I guess I'll have to get rid of it or something if this doesn't work |
| [01:53:51] | eyeoh: | and install again |
| [01:54:05] | eyeoh: | however, more reading for me first. |
| [02:04:17] | pembo13: | wagnerrp: thank you |
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| [02:43:02] | k-man: | how come mythfrontend --version reports : MythTV Version : exported ? i built from a git pull |
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| [02:46:17] | wagnerrp: | because the script is designed to use svn |
| [02:46:48] | wagnerrp: | git, while unique, does not provide sequential IDs for each checkout |
| [02:47:06] | wagnerrp: | so that printout will have to be revised to use something else if/when we move completely to git |
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| [02:49:44] | k-man: | wagnerrp: ah, thanks |
| [02:50:48] | k-man: | wagnerrp: so what is the method for getting version numberse in git? |
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| [02:51:34] | wagnerrp: | there is an include you have to modify to specify the SVN version number manually |
| [02:52:37] | k-man: | ok, thanks |
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| [02:55:29] | Beirdo: | OK, I think I may almost have Create Archive working |
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| [03:05:07] | achew22: | I'm trying to get my remote setup to use jumpoints. The first thing I did was went to edit keys and set some of the jumppoints to have key combo shortcuts. To make sure they worked I restarted myth and then tried the new key combos and they aren't jumping for me. Is there something special you have to do to get them to work? |
| [03:05:21] | Beirdo: | hahahaahahaha |
| [03:05:26] | Beirdo: | no wonder this isn't working |
| [03:05:42] | Beirdo: | mytharchive is not friends with storage groups,it seems |
| [03:06:19] | Beirdo: | at least not for videos |
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| [03:11:27] | Beirdo: | iamlindoro: did you already commit part of your rework of the video scanner? |
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| [03:15:32] | Beirdo: | this code needs a serious slap |
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| [03:39:16] | ovrflw0x: | i would like to run (maybe) mythtv on HTPC which has USB outlets – i want a tv tuner card which can record, play videos from digital mpeg-2 set top box (DVB-T?), my cable provider has a analog wire coming in where I live and it is connected to set top box which shows digital tv, which tv tuner will fit the bill? |
| [03:40:25] | wagnerrp: | if you want to capture of an STB, you need an analog capture device |
| [03:40:44] | wagnerrp: | for USB, that will either be a PVR-USB2 for standard definition, or HDPVR for high definition |
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| [03:43:14] | ovrflw0x_: | anybody? |
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| [03:43:40] | Beirdo: | you got your answer |
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| [03:43:58] | ovrflw0x: | where is it? Beirdo |
| [03:44:05] | iamlindoro: | jesus christ |
| [03:44:06] | ovrflw0x: | i got disconnected |
| [03:44:10] | Beirdo: | right after your question |
| [03:44:21] | wagnerrp: | ping timeout, he wasnt around to hear it |
| [03:44:25] | wagnerrp: | !logs |
| [03:44:29] | wagnerrp: | !url logs |
| [03:44:29] | MythLogBot: | logs: http://mythtv.beirdo.ca/ircLog/channel/1 |
| [03:44:53] | Beirdo: | iamlindoro: have you played wtih mytharchive recently? |
| [03:45:02] | iamlindoro: | Beirdo, I've never played with it period |
| [03:45:07] | iamlindoro: | aside frmo theming it |
| [03:45:08] | Beirdo: | hahah |
| [03:45:09] | Beirdo: | OK |
| [03:45:40] | Beirdo: | well, it's not liking using video files, it's expecting them to have full path rather than relative path, it seemss |
| [03:45:46] | Beirdo: | but that's not something I changed. |
| [03:45:50] | Beirdo: | so... screw it |
| [03:45:54] | iamlindoro: | You'll need to speak to paul-h about that |
| [03:46:01] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [03:46:02] | iamlindoro: | he knows, he just doesn't use MythVideo SGs |
| [03:46:11] | iamlindoro: | so hasn't updated it to support them |
| [03:46:24] | ovrflw0x: | wagnerrp: i also need to see all the tv program schedules not only just "record", hd-pvr is only for recording tv |
| [03:46:46] | Beirdo: | it strips off the configured local dir, but doesn't add it back on before trying to copy files or access them, it seems |
| [03:46:48] | wagnerrp: | ovrflw0x: a capture card wont get that for you |
| [03:46:48] | ovrflw0x: | wagnerrp: can i replace the set top box entirely and just use a "usb" device? |
| [03:46:49] | Beirdo: | I dunno |
| [03:47:00] | wagnerrp: | that depends entirely on your cable provider |
| [03:47:09] | wagnerrp: | if you get analog cable, yes |
| [03:47:18] | wagnerrp: | if you get digital cable... that depends |
| [03:47:24] | ovrflw0x: | it is digital |
| [03:47:33] | Beirdo: | so I'll continue to test that what I changed works as best I can tell, but I may need to revisit mytharchive |
| [03:47:37] | ovrflw0x: | wagnerrp: there is no card just a set top box |
| [03:47:44] | wagnerrp: | north america or europe? |
| [03:48:38] | ovrflw0x: | wagnerrp: india |
| [03:48:50] | wagnerrp: | hmm... dont know about them |
| [03:48:56] | ovrflw0x: | dvb-t |
| [03:48:57] | wagnerrp: | im going to assume DVB-C |
| [03:49:08] | ovrflw0x: | wagnerrp: wikipedia says dvb-t |
| [03:49:08] | wagnerrp: | but i dont know if they would provide CI cards |
| [03:49:22] | wagnerrp: | T is broadcast (terrestrial), C is cable |
| [03:49:23] | iamlindoro: | ovrflw0x, DVB-T uses an antenna, not cable |
| [03:49:33] | ovrflw0x: | k |
| [03:50:50] | ovrflw0x: | wagnerrp: any clue how i can get tv schedule using a tv tuner card? |
| [03:50:51] | solv: | does anybody know what is happening with dvd ripping capabilities – seeming as mtd has been removed |
| [03:51:13] | wagnerrp: | you dont get your schedule through a tuner card |
| [03:51:23] | wagnerrp: | you get your schedule through an XMLTV provider |
| [03:51:23] | solv: | I think a gui for handbrake-cli would be a good idea |
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| [03:51:56] | iamlindoro: | solv, Nothing is happening with dvd ripping-- you should use whatever you like, but it won't be a part of myth |
| [03:52:31] | acidfreeze: | could someone help me out with mythweb.. i can record in mythtv but when i schedule in mythweb nothing ever happens |
| [03:52:32] | ovrflw0x: | wagnerrp: i've used windows media centre and it shows tv schedule |
| [03:52:37] | solv: | iamlindoro: that's a huge blow....it is a major feature that heaps of people use |
| [03:52:54] | iamlindoro: | ah well |
| [03:52:56] | iamlindoro: | they'll live |
| [03:53:16] | wagnerrp: | ovrflw0x: yes, windows media center does not get scheduling data from the tuner card |
| [03:53:33] | wagnerrp: | as part of your WMC license, microsoft contracts guide data from whatever company in that area provides it |
| [03:53:34] | ovrflw0x: | wagnerrp: then? |
| [03:53:41] | ovrflw0x: | ok |
| [03:54:01] | solv: | iamlindoro: well people who know what they are doing maybe, but those who use mythtv as a standalone device with a 10 foot interface and only a remote to do things with will suffer |
| [03:54:06] | wagnerrp: | in mythtv, that service is provided by XMLTV grabbers |
| [03:54:25] | wagnerrp: | solv: the simple fact is it needed to be seriously updated |
| [03:54:27] | acidfreeze: | yea works great... |
| [03:54:28] | ovrflw0x: | wagnerrp: so any way i can get tv tuner card for dvb-c? |
| [03:54:29] | iamlindoro: | solv, Unfortunately those people will need to learn to rip DVDs with something else. |
| [03:54:33] | wagnerrp: | and it could not be done in time for 0.24 |
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| [03:54:54] | wagnerrp: | until someone takes the time to do the necessary work on it, it will not come back |
| [03:54:55] | ovrflw0x: | can i* |
| [03:55:01] | acidfreeze: | you can grab from zap still using grabber.. |
| [03:55:07] | solv: | iamlindoro: yeah i know mtd was broken – it was a problem for me so I just handbrake |
| [03:55:15] | wagnerrp: | you cannot get guide data from zap2it |
| [03:55:30] | acidfreeze: | uhh yea you can |
| [03:55:30] | wagnerrp: | and even when zap2it was providing downloadable guide data, they did not provide it for india |
| [03:55:34] | wagnerrp: | no, you cant |
| [03:55:38] | ovrflw0x: | wagnerrp: which dvb-c card should i use? |
| [03:55:43] | acidfreeze: | i just did last night with grabber |
| [03:55:43] | iamlindoro: | acidfreeze, not legally you can't |
| [03:55:50] | Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +o iamlindoro | |
| [03:55:52] | wagnerrp: | i dont know, never used any blend of DVB-C |
| [03:55:55] | acidfreeze has been kicked from #mythtv-users by iamlindoro!~iamlindor@unaffiliated/iamlindoro (acidfreeze) | |
| [03:56:01] | iamlindoro: | I'm sick of warnings |
| [03:56:13] | ovrflw0x: | wagnerrp: do they exist? |
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| [03:56:22] | wagnerrp: | yes, plenty of them exist |
| [03:56:40] | ovrflw0x: | wagnerrp: can you name a few? |
| [03:56:42] | wagnerrp: | and depending on your cable provider, you may be able to get one that takes a CI card to handle the encrypted channels |
| [03:56:43] | ovrflw0x: | best ones |
| [03:56:46] | wagnerrp: | !url tuners |
| [03:56:46] | MythLogBot: | tuners: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hardwar . . . _Information |
| [03:56:56] | wagnerrp: | like i said, ive never used any blend of DVB |
| [03:57:00] | iamlindoro: | acidfreeze, That was your one free kick without a ban. The only lawful way of getting guide data in your locale is Schedules Direct. We don't take kindly to thieves here. |
| [03:57:02] | wagnerrp: | i have no experience with any such tuners |
| [03:57:34] | acidfreeze: | dude .. i could care less about this channel.. no useful help... PEACE Ban be douche |
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| [03:58:01] | wagnerrp: | anyone consider that a loss? |
| [03:58:08] | iamlindoro: | I'm the douche when he's the one ripping off his listings |
| [03:58:59] | solv: | doesn't the US have guide data on websites that can be scraped? In Australia we just use shepherd script/scraper....it is one seriously amazing program... |
| [03:59:17] | solv: | and no it's not illegal |
| [03:59:18] | ovrflw0x: | wagnerrp: should i buy one with CI card? |
| [03:59:52] | ovrflw0x: | wagnerrp: if i provide you with model number of my set top box can you advice? |
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| [04:00:33] | iamlindoro: | solv, Does this seem like the right time to push about this? In the US, which is where MythTV "lives," scraping data from sites against their terms of service is *theft* and illegal... and I daresay the sites being scraped in Australia have equivalent terms of service which are being ignored |
| [04:01:11] | iamlindoro: | solv, But if something about what you've seen so far leads you to believe that I am interested in arguing about legality in any locale, you should know that I am in a banning mood |
| [04:01:22] | wagnerrp: | ovrflw0x: no, i cannot advise, as i have no experience with DVB, DVB-C, or CI cards |
| [04:02:09] | wagnerrp: | solv: the simple fact is that three years ago, schedules direct was set up for the explicit reason that there /was/ no legal option for quality guide data in the US after labs.zap2it shut down |
| [04:03:00] | solv: | iamlindoro: I think your overreacting....I was just wondering if it was another option for people who didn't want to pay a fee for their guide data....for those that choose to then great, they will get great quality data no hassle, but maybe some people are happy with 95% accuracy that is legal and free... |
| [04:03:20] | solv: | and if you ban me over discussing something like this then your are an irresponsible op |
| [04:03:27] | iamlindoro: | solv, There is no other legal option in the US |
| [04:03:31] | solv: | okay |
| [04:03:36] | iamlindoro: | solv, I will absolutely ban for violations of our rules |
| [04:03:47] | iamlindoro: | And a discussion of this nature runs right on the line |
| [04:03:51] | wagnerrp: | solv: there is EIT data, broadcast with the TV |
| [04:04:01] | wagnerrp: | but over here, that generally amounts to a couple hours of data |
| [04:04:05] | _Techie_: | is there any way to check what username and password were used during the mythtv setup |
| [04:04:06] | wagnerrp: | and thats only for OTA stuff |
| [04:04:11] | solv: | wagnerrp: okay..that's usually not too bad |
| [04:04:14] | wagnerrp: | there is none for cable |
| [04:04:25] | wagnerrp: | _Techie_: mythtv does not use usernames or passwords |
| [04:04:33] | solv: | yeah most people in AU only have OTA...paytv is a big fail over here |
| [04:04:42] | wagnerrp: | the only thing it has is the PIN for remote auto-detection |
| [04:04:54] | eyeoh: | Australia has good free to air TV. |
| [04:04:57] | ovrflw0x: | wagnerrp: there is card inserting space, but no card is there does that mean all channels are unencrypted? |
| [04:04:59] | eyeoh: | compared to everywhere else |
| [04:05:01] | _Techie_: | sorry, SQL passwords* |
| [04:05:25] | wagnerrp: | _Techie_: mythtv does not set up mysql passwords, it requires you do that manually on your own |
| [04:05:37] | _Techie_: | i used the ubuntu repo's |
| [04:05:42] | solv: | eyeoh: so it seems |
| [04:05:49] | wagnerrp: | ovrflw0x: if you have a CI slot with no card, then it is possible all your channels are unencrypted |
| [04:05:56] | wagnerrp: | _Techie_: then you probably want #mythbuntu |
| [04:06:28] | ovrflw0x: | wagnerrp: seems like my STB only has model no. with no name only (DVB is written on it and its full form) |
| [04:09:01] | ovrflw0x: | wagnerrp: it is from technotrend german company i saw it on cable providers website |
| [04:09:07] | ovrflw0x: | hsc-1171na |
| [04:10:38] | ovrflw0x: | wagnerrp: can you suggeset a dvb-c for this model of stb? |
| [04:10:44] | ovrflw0x: | suggest* |
| [04:11:03] | wagnerrp: | no, i cant, i have no experience with DVB, DVB-C, or CI cards |
| [04:11:22] | wagnerrp: | you can keep asking, but im just going to keep giving you the same answer |
| [04:11:53] | wagnerrp: | youre going to have to wait for a few hours until the european crowd shows up in the morning if you want advice |
| [04:12:04] | ovrflw0x: | k man ;) |
| [04:12:57] | ovrflw0x: | wagnerrp: what do you think about HTPC Asrock Core 100HT-BD is it worth a buy? |
| [04:13:41] | wagnerrp: | is that an Atom? |
| [04:14:17] | ovrflw0x: | yes |
| [04:14:22] | ovrflw0x: | i3 |
| [04:14:26] | ovrflw0x: | not atom |
| [04:14:34] | wagnerrp: | should do fine |
| [04:14:39] | ovrflw0x: | it comes with i3,i5,i7 |
| [04:14:54] | ovrflw0x: | wagnerrp: any better htpc you suggest? |
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| [04:15:22] | wagnerrp: | anything other than an atom |
| [04:15:29] | ovrflw0x: | k |
| [04:15:33] | wagnerrp: | and for a backend, preferably something sizable to allow for expansion |
| [04:15:51] | wagnerrp: | i.e. multiple pci[e] slots for tuners, multiple sata slots for hard drives |
| [04:16:17] | Beirdo: | wagnerrp: you should rule out old VIA too... and P6, etc :) |
| [04:16:18] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [04:16:53] | m4xx: | anyone mind telling me how i can set the tuner type on my second card if it's the same make/model of the first |
| [04:17:38] | m4xx: | i had to do option cx18 tuner=65 for the first one, and it works for the first one but not the second, wondering if i have to do something else |
| [04:17:40] | ovrflw0x: | wagnerrp: can you provide me link to such htpc? |
| [04:18:09] | ovrflw0x: | or name it |
| [04:20:55] | m4xx: | i see on google people have set a card= flag, not sure where i would get the card number |
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| [04:43:04] | Beirdo: | OMG |
| [04:43:29] | Beirdo: | of course, the one recording I brought over to the devel box... HAD to be 1080i H.264 |
| [04:43:46] | Beirdo: | it's off making a DVD image... so reencoding it. |
| [04:44:02] | Beirdo: | 8fps |
| [04:44:06] | Beirdo: | sigh |
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| [05:12:58] | Beirdo: | heeheh |
| [05:13:14] | Beirdo: | so, watching something recorded in HD off DirecTV |
| [05:13:29] | Beirdo: | it has an ad fro Dish network HD, saying how much better it is |
| [05:13:34] | Beirdo: | and the ad... is in SD |
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| [05:28:38] | digitalstimulus: | in mythvideo, is it possible for random trailers to be downloaded or streamed (not video trailers of movies you already have) to be played before a movie? |
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| [05:30:48] | wagnerrp: | there is currently no grabber support for downloading trailers |
| [05:31:35] | wagnerrp: | if you find a site that allows unrestricted downloads of trailers, let us know |
| [05:32:44] | iamlindoro: | s/unrestricted/unrestricted, legal/ |
| [05:34:01] | digitalstimulus: | i see. There is a package in ubuntu called mythbuntu-apple-trailers which allows streaming trailers, but probably not in the manner I am looking for |
| [05:34:45] | wagnerrp: | there is a package in ubuntu that allow you to bypass the UA locks apple has put in place to require you to use quicktime to view their trailers |
| [05:34:58] | wagnerrp: | that does not make it legal |
| [05:35:12] | wagnerrp: | rather it is in direct violation of their terms of use |
| [05:37:19] | wagnerrp: | iamlindoro: completely unrelated thought... is 'dead girl' immortal? |
| [05:37:48] | ** digitalstimulus wonders what special code lies within a quicktime viewer that isn't in other viewers. ** | |
| [05:37:49] | wagnerrp: | was rewatching that show, and it just occured to me the dog would be well into its 20s |
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| [06:02:59] | wagnerrp: | why did that show get canned... |
| [06:04:10] | wagnerrp: | well who died instead... its a random proximity thing... bitch i was in proximity |
| [06:04:28] | kormoc: | wagnerrp, what show? |
| [06:05:03] | wagnerrp: | pushing daisies |
| [06:06:32] | kormoc: | ahh. I should watch that sometime |
| [06:07:00] | wagnerrp: | you never saw it? |
| [06:07:17] | kormoc: | negative |
| [06:07:43] | wagnerrp: | yeah, it should be watched |
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| [07:21:56] | biffhero: | [10:05] <wagnerrp> pushing daisies <<< I saw the first episode of this season, as my first episode watched ever. When that kid whacked that lady with the mallet, I laughed so hard that I about fell off the couch. |
| [07:22:15] | biffhero: | oh, wait, that was the first EP of Weeds, right? ./sigh |
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| [07:28:57] | wagnerrp: | yeah... completely different plot |
| [07:29:43] | kormoc: | SPOILTERS! |
| [07:31:54] | biffhero: | yeah, oops. spoiler alert. |
| [07:34:28] | wagnerrp: | i was thrice named sword master at the southern area regional volunteer infantry reenactment regiment... i wanted to be a jedi... |
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| [07:50:10] | Beirdo: | mmmm, Weeds |
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| [07:51:55] | Beirdo: | why am I craving steak.... at almost midnight? |
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| [08:54:59] | Beirdo: | OK, down to testing mythshutdown stuff, WOL, some LIRC thingy and all iamlindoro's code :) |
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| [08:55:43] | Beirdo: | still need Windows support though, of course |
| [08:56:24] | wagnerrp: | yeah... about that |
| [08:56:38] | wagnerrp: | windows support is still on the opposite side of a season of pushing daisies |
| [08:56:46] | Beirdo: | hehehe |
| [08:56:55] | Beirdo: | gotcha |
| [08:57:21] | Beirdo: | Not sure how I can test the WOL and mythwelcome/mythshutdown crap |
| [08:57:29] | Beirdo: | but the others I should be able to |
| [09:05:06] | wagnerrp: | bah... now i have to delete my email that said the same exact thing |
| [09:06:31] | Beirdo: | soorrrry |
| [09:06:55] | Beirdo: | !trout Udo idiotic victim wannabe |
| [09:06:55] | ** MythLogBot slaps Udo with a idiotic victim wannabe trout on behalf of Beirdo... ** | |
| [09:08:07] | Beirdo: | If ya don't understand what a memory leak actually is, you have no place whining about them :) |
| [09:08:36] | Beirdo: | we have a *wee* memory leak in the backend last I looked |
| [09:08:39] | Beirdo: | like 35k |
| [09:10:06] | Beirdo: | and 27k in the frontend |
| [09:10:08] | Beirdo: | oooooh |
| [09:10:17] | Saviq_afk is now known as Saviq | |
| [09:10:25] | wagnerrp: | i would have added something about dropping everything, and laboriously scanning through the hundreds of thousands of code that encompasses the backend to find said memory leak |
| [09:10:36] | justinh: | but... but... but! !!!!!111One!! |
| [09:10:38] | wagnerrp: | s/code/lines of code/ |
| [09:10:46] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [09:11:06] | justinh: | every user is important, especially those whose name is Udo |
| [09:11:26] | justinh: | it's open source. You HAVE to jump when users say jump! |
| [09:11:35] | Beirdo: | if he wants to scream leak, he can prove it or shut it |
| [09:11:39] | justinh: | oh wait. I got open source confused with working for THE MAN |
| [09:11:57] | Beirdo: | and if there are leaks, we will fix them |
| [09:12:18] | justinh: | MBE must be leaking so much memory my backend box must be swapping all the time since it's been running for months on end |
| [09:12:30] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [09:12:47] | wagnerrp: | last time he complained and finally provided valgrind logs |
| [09:12:56] | wagnerrp: | stuartm slaved over them for days |
| [09:13:05] | Beirdo: | his ps crap shows that the resident memory is constantly increasing |
| [09:13:05] | wagnerrp: | and managed to close up a few dozen KB worth of leaks |
| [09:13:28] | Beirdo: | and that his VMEM grows a few megs in several weeks |
| [09:13:34] | Beirdo: | ooooh, such a leak |
| [09:13:58] | wagnerrp: | thats several weeks, and tens of thousands of recordings later |
| [09:14:05] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [09:14:06] | biffhero1: | implement a backend restart during a quiet time. |
| [09:14:11] | biffhero1: | but only on his machines. |
| [09:14:25] | Beirdo: | maybe... just maybe... the in-memory structures are larger. |
| [09:14:25] | justinh: | biffhero1: that's the MCE way to do things |
| [09:14:26] | wagnerrp: | he has no quiet time |
| [09:14:33] | wagnerrp: | he records everything, all the time |
| [09:14:42] | justinh: | whut? |
| [09:14:45] | wagnerrp: | and doesnt understand what we mean when we say hes a fringe case |
| [09:14:47] | Beirdo: | on one channel, no? |
| [09:14:53] | justinh: | everything, all the time? :-O |
| [09:14:59] | wagnerrp: | yes, he records everything on several channels |
| [09:15:01] | biffhero1: | there's gotta be time. like when he changes channels. |
| [09:15:11] | justinh: | gah, what is it with Android apps having no frickin QUIT option? |
| [09:15:22] | wagnerrp: | no, he has custom rules for 'record friggen everything' |
| [09:16:04] | Beirdo: | he's a nuisance :) |
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| [09:16:12] | justinh: | it's as if no user of an Android app will ever want to *leave* an application. grrr |
| [09:16:23] | kormoc: | biffhero1, he has one tuner per channel he records, so it never has to change channels |
| [09:16:41] | wagnerrp: | s/channel/multiplex/ |
| [09:16:46] | wagnerrp: | each tuner records several channels |
| [09:16:49] | kormoc: | aye, that |
| [09:16:52] | wagnerrp: | simultaneously |
| [09:17:01] | kormoc: | so the most downtime he gets is the time it takes to close a file and open a new one |
| [09:17:09] | rixon: | Hello all, i just wanted the opinion of you all here, whats the BEST DTV tuner card for linux and MythTV? |
| [09:17:24] | kormoc: | !url tuners |
| [09:17:24] | MythLogBot: | tuners: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hardwar . . . _Information |
| [09:17:32] | rixon: | i've seen the list |
| [09:17:33] | justinh: | rixon: depends on your exact needs. As it always has |
| [09:17:39] | wagnerrp: | rixon: ATSC? QAM? DVB-S? DVB-C? DVB-T? ISDB-T? |
| [09:17:49] | kormoc: | For me, HDPVR! |
| [09:18:01] | rixon: | terestrial DTV in the US |
| [09:18:08] | rixon: | so atsc |
| [09:18:09] | wagnerrp: | single? dual? usb? pci? pcie? pcix? minipci? expresscard? ethernet? |
| [09:18:17] | justinh: | nobody has ever really done any qualititive testing, e.g. sensitivity, immunity from interference etc |
| [09:18:20] | rixon: | single, any pci |
| [09:18:32] | wagnerrp: | kormoc: hdpvr != tuner card |
| [09:18:33] | wagnerrp: | :P |
| [09:18:35] | Beirdo: | I'd still go with an HDHomerun |
| [09:19:02] | justinh: | they wanna do a PoE HDHR. then I might be more interested |
| [09:19:16] | wagnerrp: | not at the moment |
| [09:19:21] | wagnerrp: | but its only 10/100 |
| [09:19:29] | wagnerrp: | so you could wire up your own passive POE |
| [09:19:31] | justinh: | heh I could mod it I suppose |
| [09:20:05] | wagnerrp: | IIRC, the power supply is 2A@5V |
| [09:20:19] | wagnerrp: | you would need to run 24V or something for that kind of power, and step it down |
| [09:21:48] | rixon: | Cool, the HDHomeRun TECH looks pretty good... |
| [09:21:55] | rixon: | might have to wait a few paychecks tho. |
| [09:22:00] | wagnerrp: | rixon: no, you dont want the TECH |
| [09:22:06] | wagnerrp: | you want the standard dual tuner |
| [09:22:15] | rixon: | wha'ts wrong with the tech? |
| [09:22:25] | wagnerrp: | i doubt theyre still running it, but newegg had it on sale for $80 on friday |
| [09:22:33] | rixon: | dood! |
| [09:22:33] | wagnerrp: | its far more capability than you need |
| [09:22:54] | wagnerrp: | the stanrd HDHR is regularly available for ~$120 |
| [09:23:01] | wagnerrp: | the TECH retails for like 3x that much |
| [09:23:18] | wagnerrp: | the standard one is for single endpoint use |
| [09:23:31] | wagnerrp: | and for mythtv, you are going to dedicate the HDHR to the backend |
| [09:23:32] | kormoc: | you can't use the multicast with myth afaik |
| [09:23:42] | high-rez: | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?It . . . 05-_-Product |
| [09:23:44] | high-rez: | $80 |
| [09:23:56] | wagnerrp: | the TECH is designed for video distribution, and will multicast the video streams to multiple endpoints simultaneously |
| [09:24:21] | rixon: | cool. |
| [09:24:32] | rixon: | well for $80, can't hardly go wrong! |
| [09:24:35] | rixon: | dual tuner, too. |
| [09:24:47] | wagnerrp: | you dont need multicast, you dont need to spend the (large amounts of) extra money for the tech |
| [09:24:54] | kormoc: | dual tuner with multirec |
| [09:25:07] | rixon: | I wasn't even going to consider an etnernet based tuner, but if you guys vouch for it, then I suppose it's alright. |
| [09:25:23] | high-rez: | hdhr is excellent |
| [09:25:28] | kormoc: | hdhr++ |
| [09:25:49] | wagnerrp: | at least two of use have one, sounds like high-rez has one as well |
| [09:26:13] | Beirdo: | I really like my hdhr |
| [09:26:52] | high-rez: | Mine has been great. I have it installed in a location close to my antenna for a short coaxial run. |
| [09:27:17] | wagnerrp: | yeah, that's the real advantage of that thing |
| [09:27:29] | wagnerrp: | install your antenna and your tuner in your attic |
| [09:27:29] | rixon: | yeah |
| [09:27:37] | wagnerrp: | short cable run means you dont need an amp |
| [09:27:41] | wagnerrp: | just ethernet and power |
| [09:28:42] | Beirdo: | OK, I must be missing something. |
| [09:29:45] | Beirdo: | trying to get mythnetvision doing something |
| [09:30:03] | Beirdo: | but it's not giving me any of the scripts. |
| [09:30:05] | Beirdo: | Ooooh |
| [09:30:09] | Beirdo: | wait a sec |
| [09:31:37] | Beirdo: | OK, it does say it will be compiled |
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| [09:32:07] | kormoc: | you need to chmod +x by hand |
| [09:32:13] | Beirdo: | oooh |
| [09:32:25] | Beirdo: | right, I remember stuartm complaining :) |
| [09:34:20] | Beirdo: | they are all 755 |
| [09:35:49] | Beirdo: | there's no particular setup required, is there? |
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| [09:37:03] | kormoc: | donno |
| [09:37:09] | kormoc: | never got it to work |
| [09:37:15] | Beirdo: | heh :) |
| [09:37:17] | Beirdo: | OK |
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| [10:22:39] | rixon: | alright! |
| [10:22:46] | rixon: | ordered my hdhomerunner. |
| [10:23:02] | justinh: | HDHomeStarRunner yay! |
| [10:24:17] | kormoc: | King of HDTown |
| [10:25:05] | rixon: | witht he strongbad adapter |
| [10:25:29] | justinh: | problem is, there's no real point trying to make it work with your compy486 |
| [10:25:59] | justinh: | regardless of what anyone says on the 'vintage hardware' thread |
| [10:26:13] | Beirdo: | kormoc: it was a bug in our changes that caused em not to get listed :) |
| [10:26:19] | kormoc: | ahh |
| [10:26:48] | Beirdo: | now I can take the copious useless debugging back out |
| [10:26:49] | Beirdo: | heh |
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| [10:28:50] | rixon: | thanks for your advice, everyone! |
| [10:29:07] | rixon: | i'll see you all later when I come back to get mythtv set up with that thing. |
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| [10:56:36] | Beirdo: | Oh wow, it's taking forever to parse the output of the PBS scraper |
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| [11:11:35] | Beirdo: | woohoo |
| [11:11:45] | Beirdo: | netvision tree and search working |
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| [11:26:22] | Beirdo: | metadata will be tomorrow |
| [11:26:43] | Beirdo: | it's causing a mythsystem bugfix, and I don't feel like coding it at 3:30am |
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| [11:28:14] | Digdilem: | hmm, yeah. 1–3 am i've done some of my best work, but it tails off after that sharply |
| [11:33:13] | Beirdo: | for me, I can keep going until daybreak, but not if I've been going > 12h anyways :) |
| [11:33:44] | Beirdo: | I want to consider my options before fixing this one |
| [11:33:59] | Beirdo: | and that's best done after a night's sleep |
| [11:44:16] | Beirdo: | Udo-- |
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| [14:16:24] | sphery: | wagnerrp: heh, last time someone complained about the sise of recordedseek, I told him to go ahead and delete it :) ... Of course, that was back when I was a nobody, so I probably couldn't get away with doing that. (Even then, a lot of people said it was mean.) |
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| [14:21:14] | sphery: | couldn't get away with doing that, now |
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| [15:29:04] | KwikkSilva: | Hi guys |
| [15:30:13] | KwikkSilva: | any suggestions on a small form factor ebay purchase for mythtv – i have no idea... |
| [15:30:26] | KwikkSilva: | looking for something quiet and cheap for the living room |
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| [15:40:37] | stuartm: | finally dvb_usb_dib0700 is out of initrd and I have a working system again, that was painful |
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| [16:02:52] | Delian: | hi all |
| [16:03:45] | Delian: | accuweather script doesn't support localization? |
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| [16:04:31] | Delian: | the mythweather ts file for my locale is ok |
| [16:05:24] | Delian: | is it a lack of the script? |
| [16:05:29] | mike__: | hello friends# |
| [16:05:45] | mike__: | i nedd some help with a pinnacle usb tv tuner |
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| [16:08:40] | wagnerrp: | mike__: do you see a /dev/dvb/adapter<n> for it? |
| [16:09:53] | mike__: | no i haven't yet |
| [16:09:59] | mike__: | should i? |
| [16:10:10] | mike__: | i am a newb |
| [16:11:40] | wagnerrp: | mythtv doesnt provide support for individual tuners |
| [16:11:47] | wagnerrp: | we support the linux video capture APIs |
| [16:12:26] | wagnerrp: | until you get the drivers working such that you have the relevant device nodes for your tuner, its out of our area of expertise |
| [16:12:37] | wagnerrp: | you may try for help in #linuxtv |
| [16:12:46] | wagnerrp: | or the channel of your distro |
| [16:12:58] | mike__: | ok thank you for your time |
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| [16:13:21] | wagnerrp: | linuxtv is the project that actually writes the tuner drivers |
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| [16:22:03] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: will waitpid work for any terminated process? or only child processes? |
| [16:22:15] | wagnerrp: | im wondering in the context of the jobqueue |
| [16:22:28] | wagnerrp: | the jobqueue is restarted with the actual job still running |
| [16:22:50] | wagnerrp: | would the same tracking code be useful in that application |
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| [16:23:11] | wagnerrp: | or would it need a new call for those types of tasks? |
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| [16:27:24] | massysett: | When I use the proprietary ATI driver, the GUI works fine. But when I try to play recordings, I get sound but no video. Open-source radeon driver plays video but then I don't get XVideo. thanks for any help... |
| [16:27:51] | massysett: | Had same problem with nvidia proprietary driver too. |
| [16:28:30] | wagnerrp: | presumably you were using the ATI driver with an ATI card and the nVidia driver with an nVidia card |
| [16:28:56] | massysett: | Yeah, had an nvidia card that I plugged in first, now back to on-board ATI video. |
| [16:29:20] | wagnerrp: | you are using the Slim playback profile? |
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| [16:30:58] | massysett: | Tried Normal and CPU--. Just switched it over to Slim, still no video. Just a black screen, with perfect sound. |
| [16:31:15] | Rabbit^^: | Has anyone here tried to use MythTV with FreeBSD and succeeded? |
| [16:31:17] | wagnerrp: | are you using some sort of compositing window manager? |
| [16:31:28] | wagnerrp: | Rabbit^^: yes, i run my master backend on a freebsd box |
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| [16:31:39] | massysett: | Naa, just Fluxbox. |
| [16:32:36] | Rabbit^^: | Was it easy to set up? I have NO personal experience with Linux and have access to an unused PIII 866MHz tower. |
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| [16:33:44] | wagnerrp: | this would be a backend only? |
| [16:34:09] | massysett: | No, it's got the backend and frontend on the same machine. |
| [16:34:15] | wagnerrp: | Rabbit^^, ^^ |
| [16:34:29] | Rabbit^^: | You mean for recording for Cable box/wall access? |
| [16:35:05] | wagnerrp: | for a machine that slow, you only want to deal with mpeg encoders and digital tuners |
| [16:35:08] | massysett: | oh, whoops |
| [16:35:23] | wagnerrp: | for mpeg encoders, youll want a PVR-150/500 |
| [16:35:34] | wagnerrp: | there is a driver for those in the ports tree, but ive never gotten it to compile |
| [16:35:50] | wagnerrp: | for digital tuners, youre really limited on your options, again by drivers |
| [16:36:08] | wagnerrp: | im using an HDHomeRun which is connected over the network, and mythtv accesses directly, no drivers needed |
| [16:36:14] | Rabbit^^: | The tuner would be the Diamond ATI TVW750USB. I have USB 2.0 via an add-in card on this machine. Is that adequate? |
| [16:36:47] | wagnerrp: | there is some project which provides an emulation layer for the linux USB subsystem |
| [16:36:55] | wagnerrp: | for the purposes of using linux video capture drivers |
| [16:37:19] | wagnerrp: | if that tuner is supported under linux, you may be able to get it working under freebsd using that project |
| [16:37:30] | Rabbit^^: | The software included with this particular tuner records in .mpg. Does that mean it has an encoder? |
| [16:38:02] | wagnerrp: | no, it is a digital tuner |
| [16:38:10] | wagnerrp: | the broadcaster encodes it to mpeg2 |
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| [16:42:00] | Rabbit^^: | Where does one find which tuner are supported by linux? I am a computer tinkerer. I eventually intended on upgraded this system to a Pentium D 920. Would that improve my tuner options? |
| [16:42:05] | wagnerrp: | !url tuners |
| [16:42:05] | MythLogBot: | tuners: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hardwar . . . _Information |
| [16:42:22] | wagnerrp: | and no, it will make no difference |
| [16:42:36] | wagnerrp: | with more power, you /can/ use framegrabbers instead of mpeg encoders |
| [16:42:39] | wagnerrp: | ... but you shouldnt |
| [16:43:16] | wagnerrp: | more power really means the scheduler, guide downloader, and jobqueue are happier |
| [16:47:15] | Rabbit^^: | This is a hybrid ATSC/analog USB tuner. |
| [16:47:24] | wagnerrp: | its a framegrabber |
| [16:47:29] | wagnerrp: | you dont want to use framegrabbers |
| [16:47:37] | wagnerrp: | for mythtv's purposes, consider it digital only |
| [16:48:09] | Rabbit^^: | Framegrabber refers to hardware devices? |
| [16:48:58] | wagnerrp: | a framegrabber refers to a type of analog tuner/capture card which pushes raw video frames to a chunk of shared system memory |
| [16:49:27] | wagnerrp: | which the capture software has to capture and recompress, and multiplex in the audio from another source, in real time |
| [16:49:54] | wagnerrp: | they work great for live playback, where the playback software just copies that video straight into the display card's video buffer |
| [16:49:59] | wagnerrp: | but they suck for recording |
| [16:50:08] | Rabbit^^: | Would I be better off to wait until I can make the motherboard upgrade and move to a Hauppauge WinTV HVR-2250? |
| [16:51:17] | wagnerrp: | only if you intend to switch to linux, write a freebsd driver, or pay awalls lots of money to do it for you |
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| [16:52:56] | Rabbit^^: | (y other option is to use this tuner on a Windows 7 *or subsequent release) on the Pentium D 920 system, which has a free PCIe x1 slot. |
| [16:52:57] | benklop_: | hello! i've marked about 150 recordings to delete, but it doesn't look like myth is freeing the space.. how can I tell myth to actually delete the associated files? |
| [16:53:21] | benklop_: | in system stats it says there is 75i gigs used by these deleted recordings |
| [16:53:25] | benklop_: | 751 |
| [16:53:47] | wagnerrp: | Rabbit^^: mythtv does not currently support the windows driver architecture |
| [16:54:14] | wagnerrp: | benklop_: sounds like you have mythtv set to move deleted recordings to the Deleted group, rather than directly deleting them |
| [16:54:30] | wagnerrp: | recordings in the Deleted group can be undeleted, but are moved to the top of the auto-expire list |
| [16:54:37] | benklop_: | wagnerrp: that sounds probable |
| [16:54:41] | benklop_: | ok, i see |
| [16:54:43] | Rabbit^^: | The other option does not involve Linux (it would be a Windows system). |
| [16:54:45] | wagnerrp: | they will be automatically deleted when you run out of room |
| [16:54:52] | benklop_: | where is that option? |
| [16:54:54] | wagnerrp: | Rabbit^^: and it would not involve mythtv wither |
| [16:55:35] | benklop_: | i have to use some space on my mythbox temporarily for some other stuff, I need to free it up even though myth sees no need to use it currently |
| [16:56:20] | benklop_: | i don't believe i've seen that option before.. is it new ish? |
| [16:56:26] | Rabbit^^: | Does MythTV work more effectively on internal card (such as Hauppauge WinTV HVR-2250)? |
| [16:57:13] | wagnerrp: | Rabbit^^: if theyre both using the DVB subsystem, mythtv cant tell the difference |
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| [16:57:27] | benklop_: | does myth notice I have run out of room only when trying to do a recording, or at other times as well? |
| [16:58:09] | wagnerrp: | but internal are preferred by most people, mostly because its cleaner to have everything inside the box than attached dangling on the outside |
| [16:58:37] | wagnerrp: | benklop_: i believe it checks once every 15 minutes even when not recording |
| [16:59:37] | Rabbit^^: | Windows Media Center does not even DETECT the TVW750USB (XP MCE 2005). Would MythTV work better than Windows XP MCE 2005? |
| [17:01:09] | wagnerrp: | mythtv will detect any digital tuners that show up through the DVB API |
| [17:01:21] | wagnerrp: | if there is a linux driver using that API, mythtv can use it |
| [17:04:37] | benklop_: | wagnerrp: i just started live TV to make it detect it was running out of space |
| [17:04:52] | benklop_: | that seemed to work |
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| [17:05:57] | Rabbit^^: | Does anyone here have any experience with Windows 7 and Media Center? Do you like MythTV better? |
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| [17:15:46] | cmendes0101: | Anyone familiar with Turtle beach riviera soundcard and with 2-pin hdmi audio on a graphics card? Graphics card has a 2-pin cable to attach to spdif output and not sure it if I can or how |
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| [17:19:48] | wagnerrp: | the 2-pin header on older nvidia and ATI cards is an SPDIF header |
| [17:20:21] | wagnerrp: | you /can/ use a discrete card to provide that |
| [17:20:34] | wagnerrp: | but if your onboard audio has it, it will work just as well |
| [17:24:42] | cmendes0101: | I dont have that on my onboard audio, this is why im trying to use the Turtle Beach Riviera soundcard, but it has 8-pins at what is labeled SPDIF I/O and not sure which pins it could be, if that is the right setup |
| [17:27:10] | wagnerrp: | 8-pin? not 10-pin? |
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| [17:28:57] | cmendes0101: | oh wait, your right. Its 10. |
| [17:31:34] | wagnerrp: | with one of the pins missing? |
| [17:31:54] | wagnerrp: | so its :::.: ? |
| [17:32:40] | cmendes0101: | Actually .:::: pin 2 is missing |
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| [17:51:00] | m4xx: | i've got 2 hvr-1600's installed. the second one show's only static and has an error in /var/log/messages you can see the error at http://mythtv.pastebin.com/7CkP3hsD on line 33 anyone care to help diagnose the problem? |
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| [17:57:54] | fbnts: | Hi, what package contains the metadata lookup scripts tmdb.py etc in mythbuntu? |
| [17:58:38] | wagnerrp: | should be the same one that provides mythbackend and mythfrontend |
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| [17:59:49] | fbnts: | ah ok, my /usr/share/mythtv/ directory doesnt contain the metadata directory or scripts. Should I just try reinstalling the mythfrontend package? |
| [18:01:16] | m4xx: | i had the same problem when i installed the first card and it turned out i had to set the tuner type to something other than what it was defaulted to. I'm not sure if this could be the same problem. To set the tuner type i had to add "option cx18 tuner=65" to modprobe.d, would i also have to do this for the second card or should that handle both cards of the same type |
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| [18:01:40] | m4xx: | same problem as in it only showed static. |
| [18:02:16] | Digdilem: | taht should fix the issue for both cards if they're identical and the same version |
| [18:02:28] | m4xx: | yes, both same make/model/version |
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| [18:02:36] | m4xx: | that's what i thought |
| [18:02:38] | Digdilem: | i don't know how to fix the irq log if it's causing an issue though |
| [18:02:54] | Digdilem: | seen similar things with other kit but it was only a warning and didn't affect operation for me |
| [18:03:05] | m4xx: | :( |
| [18:03:19] | Digdilem: | unless you can change physical slots or juggle irq's in bios somehow? |
| [18:03:27] | Digdilem: | (not taht I think you can with modern bioses) |
| [18:03:33] | m4xx: | i only have the 2 pci slots |
| [18:03:50] | Digdilem: | ah. hopefully someone else will have a clue. sorry |
| [18:04:07] | m4xx: | thanks for the input thought, that handels part of my question :) |
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| [18:04:47] | Digdilem: | i see the other card is on irq 16 though, so it's not directly clashing. maybe that error message is some other thing |
| [18:06:07] | pheld: | "playCtx, Error: Attempting to setup a player, but it already exists": Does this mean that mythfrontend is failing to release resources on channel changes? |
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| [18:17:20] | cmendes0101: | Wooh ok awsome it worked. I couldnt find anything online about those SPDIF pin stuff for hours so I tried tracing the card and a couple guesses. Its pin 4(SPDIF) & 6(Ground) on a turtle beach riviera |
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| [18:24:35] | m4xx: | not sure if it's related to the problem i'm having but if i remove the cx18 mod then do the modprob it only add's one of the two cards. |
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| [18:30:15] | m4xx: | hmm, when i try to test /dev/video1 it says tuner type not set |
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| [18:54:17] | m4xx: | if any one is interested, i had to set tuner=#,# to set the tuner type on both cards. I guess the irq error is just a warning as Digdilem had suggested. |
| [18:56:14] | Digdilem: | glad you got it sorted |
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| [18:59:40] | m4xx: | thank you again :) |
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| [19:39:29] | karl_: | I'm wondering if someone could give me a little help/advice on getting my HD PVR working. I am able to do a "cat /dev/video0 > vid.mpg and then play the mpg file; but while inside of the mythtv frontend, I'm unable to watch tv. |
| [19:40:22] | m4xx: | have you set up your card in the backend? |
| [19:40:35] | karl_: | yes...it looks right to me...shows /dev/video0 |
| [19:40:56] | m4xx: | that's for mpeg? |
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| [19:41:14] | [R]: | what do the log say |
| [19:41:39] | karl_: | I'm not sure...I'll check...what log file should I look at? |
| [19:41:53] | [R]: | backend and frontend |
| [19:46:39] | karl_: | 010-11–28 11:34:03.188 TVRec(1): Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV |
| [19:46:39] | karl_: | 2010-11–28 11:34:03.239 TVRec(1): HW Tuner: 1->1 |
| [19:46:39] | karl_: | 2010-11–28 11:34:03.381 Channel(/dev/video0)::Tune(): Error -1 while setting frequency (v2): Invalid argument |
| [19:46:39] | karl_: | 2010-11–28 11:34:03.429 TVRec(1) Error: Failed to set channel to 2. Reverting to kState_None |
| [19:46:39] | karl_: | 2010-11–28 11:34:03.479 TVRec(1): Changing from WatchingLiveTV to None |
| [19:46:41] | karl_: | 2010-11–28 11:34:57.438 AutoExpire: CalcParams(): Max required Free Space: 1.0 GB w/freq: 15 min |
| [19:46:43] | karl_: | 2010-11–28 11:38:29.128 mythbackend version: branches/release-0-23-fixes [26437] www.mythtv.org |
| [19:47:20] | [R]: | not to flood the channel |
| [19:47:33] | [R]: | sounds like you might not have configured it as an hdpvr |
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| [19:49:28] | karl_: | just tripple checked...it shows as a .h264 hdpvr encorder device |
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| [19:50:07] | [R]: | what "shows" |
| [19:50:19] | karl_: | when I go into mythtv backend setup |
| [19:50:37] | [R]: | did you set a "starting c hannel" |
| [19:50:42] | iamlindoro: | pause |
| [19:50:43] | [R]: | that would be on the input |
| [19:50:52] | iamlindoro: | This is yet another case of not reading the help text |
| [19:51:03] | karl_: | I'll check that right now |
| [19:51:08] | iamlindoro: | He set a starting frequency |
| [19:51:20] | iamlindoro: | the one whose help text specifically says that it's for tuner devices |
| [19:51:24] | iamlindoro: | which an HD-PVR isn't |
| [19:52:25] | karl_: | starting channel was set to channel 2 |
| [19:52:44] | [R]: | karl_: and there you go |
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| [19:53:16] | iamlindoro: | No, not starting channel |
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| [19:53:21] | karl_: | so you are saying to remove the starting channel? |
| [19:53:21] | iamlindoro: | preset TUNER to channel |
| [19:53:32] | iamlindoro: | the one that says LEAVE THIS BLANK as the first three words of the help text |
| [19:53:33] | [R]: | oh right... tahts what i meant |
| [19:53:39] | [R]: | lol |
| [19:53:54] | iamlindoro: | ie, the one that explains that if you're not using a tuner, which you're not, that you should leave it blank, which you didn't |
| [19:55:11] | [R]: | iamlindoro: maybe it should not show the option for hdpvr? |
| [19:55:23] | iamlindoro: | It's not in the HD-PVR configuration page, it's in the input config page |
| [19:55:30] | [R]: | yeah, i just saw it |
| [19:55:46] | [R]: | but the input is tied to the hdpvr |
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| [20:01:36] | karl_: | I'm sorry, but I'm a little confused as to what the settings should be...in addition, doubly sorry to ask a question & then have to leave without being able to try everything...my wife & kid have been yelling at me to get going. |
| [20:02:07] | karl_: | I hope it will be ok to try & resolve this matter with everyones help a little later this afternoon. |
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| [20:23:08] | stuartm: | here I am again, re-ripping albums to Lame V0 quality when I was _sure_ I had already re-ripped them all :/ |
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| [20:29:00] | m4xx: | is there a way to get jump points to work while watching live tv? |
| [20:29:29] | m4xx: | if i try to jump to mainmenu from live tv it wont work, but if i bring up the guide it iwll |
| [20:29:31] | m4xx: | *will |
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| [20:58:57] | sphery: | m4xx: no, not until someone creates the proper patch for http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/7939 |
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| [21:11:41] | Saviq: | hi all, since upgrading to 0.24 my frontend hogs one core during playback (I'm using VDPAU), the only thing mentioned in -v playback,audio is about video being too slow and dropped frames |
| [21:11:59] | Saviq: | any idea what might cause that? how can I provide more relevant info? |
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| [21:43:49] | Beirdo: | wagnerrp: waitpid is specifically for child processes, AFAIK |
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| [21:44:33] | wagnerrp: | i forget, that thread /only/ does waitpid now, right? |
| [21:45:38] | wagnerrp: | no, waitpid and timeout checking/termination |
| [21:45:43] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [21:46:25] | wagnerrp: | just wondering how that should be handled |
| [21:46:39] | wagnerrp: | if thats to be handled, it should be handled by mythsystem |
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| [21:48:53] | Beirdo: | I'd have to think about it... but right now, I'm thinking on how to make the metadata stuff happy |
| [21:49:13] | Beirdo: | I will have it behaving shortly, I'm sure |
| [21:53:00] | Beirdo: | at 3:30am I had had enough :) |
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| [22:33:58] | dforthman: | hi there. i've got mythtv running in ubuntu 10.04 following the online docs, but the audio is in and out, and the video is looks like a blocked porno channel. anyone see this before? or can point me in the right direction? |
| [22:35:30] | [R]: | what do the logs say |
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| [22:41:56] | dforthman: | well, there are a lot of "Unknown audio decoding error" "frame CRC mismatch" and "frame sync error" messages in the frontend log |
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| [22:49:22] | dforthman: | here ya go: 2010-11–28 17:30:23.122 [ac3 @ 0x741e960]frame CRC mismatch |
| [22:49:22] | dforthman: | 2010-11–28 17:30:23.147 [ac3 @ 0x741e960]frame sync error |
| [22:49:22] | dforthman: | 2010-11–28 17:30:23.147 AFD Error: Unknown audio decoding error |
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| [22:51:39] | [R]: | what is your source? |
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| [22:54:12] | dforthman: | i have an ati tv wonder 600 usb |
| [22:54:39] | [R]: | no clue what that is |
| [22:54:44] | [R]: | [03:51:39] [R] what is your source? |
| [22:55:12] | dforthman: | define "source" – The TV Tuner? |
| [22:56:20] | [R]: | what is plugged into the ati tv wonder |
| [22:56:29] | dforthman: | oh, ok i got ya |
| [22:56:35] | dforthman: | it's digital antenna |
| [22:56:56] | Twiggy2cents: | dforthman, did you follow the guide to get the tv tuner working? |
| [22:57:09] | Twiggy2cents: | I had that tv tuner and it isnt an out of the box thing. At least when I set it up |
| [22:57:35] | dforthman: | Twiggy2cents, yeah. followed the guide – I get audio and video, it's just choppy and garbled |
| [22:57:51] | [R]: | do you get errors on every channel? |
| [22:58:36] | dforthman: | i didn't test all of them, just the few i actually watch. would you like me to test them all? i can then put the log file on a pastebin for you? |
| [22:58:56] | iamlindoro: | The issue is broken signal |
| [22:59:24] | iamlindoro: | ie, the stream your device is getting is corrupted due to errors in the stream, usually caused by incorrect antenna aim or insufficient signal quality |
| [22:59:31] | dforthman: | it reports 80% signal. is that not enough? |
| [22:59:40] | Twiggy2cents: | http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/ATI/AMD_TV_Wonder_HD_600_USB did you reference that? |
| [22:59:51] | Twiggy2cents: | Did you set it up for dvb not analog? |
| [23:00:10] | [R]: | dforthman: drivers usually have no clue what they are talking about |
| [23:00:10] | iamlindoro: | dforthman, That's an electrical value, not an indication of the *quality* of signal |
| [23:00:25] | dforthman: | Twiggy2cents, yes, that's the guide i used |
| [23:00:31] | iamlindoro: | Biterror is far more critical |
| [23:00:49] | iamlindoro: | and the decode errors you are seeing indicate that your signal is broken |
| [23:00:55] | dforthman: | iamlindoro, so just move the antenna around a little then and see what happens? |
| [23:01:08] | iamlindoro: | dforthman, That would be a very unscientific way of doing it |
| [23:01:14] | dforthman: | haha |
| [23:01:32] | iamlindoro: | You should figure out what exact orientation and antenna type you need for your location on antennaweb, and aim with a compass |
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| [23:01:54] | iamlindoro: | It's possible your antenna is inadequate, or that your aim is way off, or that you are simply too far from transmitters to get usable signal |
| [23:02:44] | dforthman: | you're right... your ways is much more scientific |
| [23:02:44] | dforthman: | but not nearly as unpredictable |
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| [23:05:54] | biffhero: | Does that device kick out a mpeg file? I have always been happy with troubleshooting via "cat /dev/video0 > /tmp/file.mpg && mplayer /tmp/file.mpg" |
| [23:06:09] | dforthman: | i'll check |
| [23:06:15] | iamlindoro: | That is not how digital tuners work |
| [23:06:28] | iamlindoro: | digital tuners don't have /dev/video nodes |
| [23:06:38] | biffhero: | rats |
| [23:06:44] | KwikkSilva_: | hi guys |
| [23:06:54] | KwikkSilva_: | i'm pretty new to myth tv |
| [23:06:59] | iamlindoro: | (they do, however, emit transport streams, generall speaking) |
| [23:07:26] | KwikkSilva_: | I need to view television feeds from Ireland (tv3.ie SMIL format and RTE.ie smil) – can myth tv help? |
| [23:08:34] | dforthman: | ok, apparently if i unplug/replug i get errors in dmesg so i'm goin'g to restart. |
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| [23:12:04] | dforthman: | alright, so now i'm getting lgdt330x: i2c_read_demod_bytes: addr 0x0e select 0x58 error (ret == -19) all throughout my dmesg log – so guess i'll get that fixed and try again |
| [23:13:53] | iamlindoro: | dforthman, #linuxtv may be able to help, too, the driver devs hang out there |
| [23:14:01] | iamlindoro: | you will just need to be patient/wait for your answer |
| [23:14:01] | dforthman: | awesome, thanks |
| [23:14:09] | iamlindoro: | (ie, it could take quite some time) |
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| [23:15:21] | dforthman: | well, i can idle all day :D |
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| [23:20:28] | Beirdo: | oooh, the grounded mike is giving us a play by play of his latest fun |
| [23:21:46] | [R]: | what's the point of being able to unload nouveau... if the comptuer locks up when you try to start X with the proprietary nvidia? |
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| [23:22:36] | k_ross_: | heh, i'll set the line on the nunmber of posts in his latest thread at 90 posts. do you want the over or under? |
| [23:22:51] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [23:22:59] | Beirdo: | over, but just barely |
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| [23:24:47] | iamlindoro: | Best e-mail rule I've ever written |
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| [23:41:40] | dforthman: | hey – what was that website for the antenna pointing again? |
| [23:42:44] | wagnerrp: | tvfool? antennaweb? |
| [23:42:51] | gregL: | dforthman, This is one: http://www.tvfool.com/ |
| [23:42:55] | dforthman: | that's the one |
| [23:43:01] | dforthman: | antennaweb |
| [23:43:06] | dforthman: | i'll try the other also |
| [23:43:43] | Beirdo: | yay. got it |
| [23:43:50] | wagnerrp: | christ... five emails in reply to himself over the course of fifteen minutes |
| [23:44:01] | wagnerrp: | mike needs to be grounded from the mailing lists |
| [23:44:27] | Beirdo: | yeah, he needs to go sit in the corner |
| [23:45:46] | biffhero: | or come to IRC |
| [23:46:37] | Beirdo: | good god. |
| [23:46:51] | wagnerrp: | please no, dont let him on IRC |
| [23:47:56] | biffhero: | heh |
| [23:47:57] | wagnerrp: | wow... lot of wiki edits today... from someone other than me |
| [23:48:39] | ** iamlindoro sets mode +b on !@!grounded.net ** | |
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| [23:52:01] | k-man: | in .24 is there still a concept of OSD themes? |
| [23:52:12] | wagnerrp: | no, there is only the single unified theme |
| [23:52:36] | k-man: | wagnerrp: ok, thanks |
| [23:53:53] | Wicked: | does anyone know if you can test a capture card on a headless server by using x forwarding and doing something like "ssh -XY user@192.168.1.100 "mplayer /dev/video0" " .....im tyring it now and i get no sound and the video playback is very jerky |
| [23:54:01] | Wicked: | im trying to doing some testing |
| [23:54:13] | wagnerrp: | sounds about right |
| [23:54:21] | wagnerrp: | X11 does not handle sound |
| [23:54:25] | Wicked: | ah |
| [23:54:36] | [R]: | Wicked: what kind of card? |
| [23:54:37] | Wicked: | any idea how i can get video and sound? |
| [23:54:39] | wagnerrp: | and even standard definition analog video will easily saturate a 10/100 network |
| [23:54:40] | [R]: | Wicked: mpeg? |
| [23:54:45] | Wicked: | [R], a pvr-150 |
| [23:54:51] | Shadow__X: | is it common behavior to have the mythnetvision zoomed into the logo when trying to watch a hulu video? |
| [23:54:53] | [R]: | Wicked: just use netcat or something |
| [23:55:01] | wagnerrp: | cat /dev/video0 > test.mpg |
| [23:55:03] | Wicked: | wagnerrp, hmm...recordings playback fine across the network |
| [23:55:20] | Wicked: | wagnerrp, yea...im trying to do some stuff in my cable boxes menus |
| [23:55:26] | Wicked: | i need "realish" time video |
| [23:55:26] | wagnerrp: | Wicked: when you play recordings, you are decoding locally, sending the compressed video over the network |
| [23:55:39] | wagnerrp: | when you forward X, you are decoding remotely, sending the raw uncompressed video over the network |
| [23:55:53] | Wicked: | wont data come in from my card at the bitrate i set it too? |
| [23:56:03] | Wicked: | which should be well within my networks range |
| [23:56:10] | Wicked: | hmm |
| [23:56:25] | Wicked: | [R], yea im not really sure how to use netcat...ive only played with it a few times |
| [23:56:33] | wagnerrp: | no, you are decoding remotely, and pushing uncompressed video over the network |
| [23:56:49] | [R]: | Wicked: well thats what you want |
| [23:56:51] | wagnerrp: | video will come at 720x480x30x12bits |
| [23:57:06] | wagnerrp: | 15.5MB/s |
| [23:57:13] | Wicked: | hmm. |
| [23:57:16] | wagnerrp: | and X11 still wont handle your audio |
| [23:57:17] | Wicked: | interesting |
| [23:57:29] | wagnerrp: | what did you think X11 forwarding did? |
| [23:58:23] | Wicked: | produce remote programs locally using voodoo and ritualistic sacrafices |
| [23:58:32] | Wicked: | am i that far off? :) |
| [23:59:12] | wagnerrp: | if you need realtime, use something like VLC to stream the video over the network |
| [23:59:28] | Wicked: | yea |
| [23:59:29] | wagnerrp: | you may be able to pipe stuff from netcat into mplayer, i dont know if it will accept video from stdin |
| [23:59:34] | Wicked: | i figured it out with netcat. |
| [23:59:40] | Wicked: | http://ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Howto:Netcat_streaming |
| [23:59:46] | Wicked: | local: nc -l -p 5000 | mplayer - |
| [23:59:53] | Wicked: | server: cat /dev/video0 | nc 192.168.4.5 5000 |
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