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| [00:01:15] | kormoc: | I'd understand thread per IO target, that seems kinda limiting to be per pool |
| [00:03:08] | wagnerrp: | some rather inconclusive numbers... http://forums.freebsd.org/showpost.php?p=64121&postcount=5 |
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| [00:04:19] | wagnerrp: | it would seem the data passed by bonnie is a bit skewed in favor of compressed filesystems |
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| [00:08:05] | darkdrgn2k3: | is thre any harm in mounting the root drive of a myth fe on another linux machine... chrooting to it and then compiling myth |
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| [00:08:11] | darkdrgn2k3: | (IE: on a quad core vs an atom) |
| [00:08:41] | wagnerrp: | there may be issues with a mis-detected architecture |
| [00:08:49] | darkdrgn2k3: | :-S dam |
| [00:09:02] | darkdrgn2k3: | AMD 64 vs an atom :-S |
| [00:09:42] | wagnerrp: | go ahead and try it |
| [00:09:49] | wagnerrp: | you cant really do much harm |
| [00:09:57] | wagnerrp: | if it doesnt work, youre out 20 minutes |
| [00:10:06] | wagnerrp: | and you could end up saving yourself hours |
| [00:10:12] | darkdrgn2k3: | yeh... |
| [00:10:20] | darkdrgn2k3: | seeing how the amd is quad core.. |
| [00:10:30] | wagnerrp: | and its a 'real processor' |
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| [00:10:34] | darkdrgn2k3: | LOL that too |
| [00:10:49] | kormoc: | disable --proc-ops, tell it to compile to i686, call it good |
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| [00:11:08] | darkdrgn2k3: | btw ftw i reinstalled Fedora 13 on the ion box.. did an update.. and magically hdmi audio appeas now :) |
| [00:11:08] | wagnerrp: | desktop or mobile atom? |
| [00:11:11] | darkdrgn2k3: | what does --proc-ops do |
| [00:11:19] | darkdrgn2k3: | wagnerrp: good question. its the ZBOX |
| [00:11:23] | wagnerrp: | rather --disable-proc-opts |
| [00:11:28] | darkdrgn2k3: | Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU D510 @ 1.66GHz |
| [00:11:33] | wagnerrp: | the desktop atoms are all 64 bit |
| [00:11:41] | wagnerrp: | i assume youre running 64-bit fedora on it |
| [00:11:47] | darkdrgn2k3: | @%#@%$#@ no i installed 32 bit.. |
| [00:11:48] | darkdrgn2k3: | sob |
| [00:11:52] | darkdrgn2k3: | time to re-install :-S |
| [00:11:54] | wagnerrp: | the mobile versions only support 32-bit operation, go figure |
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| [00:12:08] | darkdrgn2k3: | so Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU D510 @ 1.66GHz is 64 bit? |
| [00:12:25] | wagnerrp: | if wikipedia is to be truste |
| [00:12:26] | wagnerrp: | d |
| [00:12:35] | darkdrgn2k3: | wikipedia is never to be trusted!!!! |
| [00:12:42] | darkdrgn2k3: | its goal is misinformation i tell you1 |
| [00:13:57] | darkdrgn2k3: | i love how some packages like oxygen-icon-theme-4.4.5–1.fc13.noarch takes FOREVER to install on an atom |
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| [00:14:17] | wagnerrp: | i love how everything takes forever to do on an atom |
| [00:14:18] | wagnerrp: | :P |
| [00:14:23] | darkdrgn2k3: | not EVERYTHING |
| [00:14:28] | darkdrgn2k3: | you can still do 1+1 quite quick |
| [00:16:07] | darkdrgn2k3: | what does --disable-proc-opts actualy do? |
| [00:16:42] | wagnerrp: | disable processor specific optimizations |
| [00:17:04] | darkdrgn2k3: | would that slow down the myth vs me compiling it on the atom? |
| [00:17:24] | wagnerrp: | youll still do the SSE stuff, but it wont set any --march parameters |
| [00:17:35] | wagnerrp: | myth will likely run marginally slower |
| [00:17:54] | wagnerrp: | but for your purposes, most things should be handled by the GPU anyway |
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| [00:31:20] | wagnerrp: | huh huh... http://gizmodo.com/5670939 |
| [00:34:24] | tank-man: | reminds me of this south park episode heh http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsxKv9vLDL0 |
| [00:37:11] | wagnerrp: | nice |
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| [01:14:09] | Captain_Murdoch: | jstenback, you around? |
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| [01:17:21] | stevieman: | is there a way in .23 to auto fetch the metadata for videos? |
| [01:17:38] | wagnerrp: | how much do you have? |
| [01:17:55] | stevieman: | too many to each individually :) |
| [01:18:09] | wagnerrp: | in the small hundreds, just click through and hit 'w' on each |
| [01:18:14] | wagnerrp: | should only take a couple minutes |
| [01:18:21] | stevieman: | oh that works |
| [01:18:28] | wagnerrp: | beyond that, you can set up JAMU on 0.23, or upgrade to 0.24 |
| [01:18:43] | wagnerrp: | you dont need to wait for anything after hitting 'w' |
| [01:18:46] | stevieman: | I just upgraded to .23 |
| [01:19:02] | wagnerrp: | just hit it, and move onto the next |
| [01:19:02] | wagnerrp: | youre a bit late |
| [01:19:14] | stevieman: | to the .23 party? |
| [01:19:25] | wagnerrp: | yep |
| [01:19:41] | stevieman: | is .24 a full release? |
| [01:19:56] | stevieman: | or is it beta? |
| [01:20:03] | wagnerrp: | we do RC2 on monday, with a release planned for the monday after |
| [01:20:51] | stevieman: | oh thats cool. I' leary of beta stuff. |
| [01:20:54] | wagnerrp: | 0.24 has already been branched with one release candidate |
| [01:21:17] | wagnerrp: | what are you currently running? the release tarball or some revision off subversion? |
| [01:22:55] | wagnerrp: | mythbackend --version |
| [01:24:40] | stevieman: | I'm running .23 from mythbuntu 10.04 |
| [01:24:55] | wagnerrp: | what revision? |
| [01:24:56] | wagnerrp: | mythbackend --version |
| [01:26:55] | stevieman: | sec let me check |
| [01:33:22] | stevieman: | hmm it would seem that my vnc connection isn't allowing me to use the esc key |
| [01:33:42] | wagnerrp: | what do you need VNC for? |
| [01:33:59] | stevieman: | that is how I connect to my mythbox |
| [01:34:09] | wagnerrp: | just ssh in |
| [01:34:16] | wagnerrp: | all you need is a command prompt |
| [01:35:37] | stevieman: | I forgot about ssh |
| [01:35:42] | stevieman: | I hope I turned it on |
| [01:37:00] | stevieman: | yay I did :) |
| [01:37:10] | stevieman: | the ver # is 24158 |
| [01:37:45] | wagnerrp: | congratulations, you are running buggy, pre-release mythtv |
| [01:38:00] | wagnerrp: | 0.23 was not released until 245xx-something |
| [01:38:08] | stevieman: | seriously |
| [01:38:18] | wagnerrp: | seriously |
| [01:38:31] | stevieman: | so mythbuntu 10.04 release is a buggy pre-release? |
| [01:38:38] | stevieman: | niiiice |
| [01:38:42] | stevieman: | wankers |
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| [01:38:59] | ** tgm4883 mumbles something bad about stevieman ** | |
| [01:39:11] | wagnerrp: | well, we did tell them we would have a version out in time for them to have it in their final release.... and then didnt |
| [01:39:13] | stevieman: | and I grabbed 10.04 because it was an LTS |
| [01:39:39] | stevieman: | steller |
| [01:39:47] | wagnerrp: | they learned their lesson with 10.10, and shipped with 0.23.1 instead of a buggy pre-release 0.24 |
| [01:39:52] | ** tgm4883 mumbles something about autobuilds http://www.mythbuntu.org/auto-builds ** | |
| [01:40:00] | wagnerrp: | yeah, there is that |
| [01:40:15] | wagnerrp: | no one should be running the release version of mythbuntu anyway, when they have nice auto-builds set up |
| [01:40:46] | stevieman: | guess I'm going to have to get oh maybe mythdora |
| [01:40:53] | tgm4883: | ? |
| [01:40:59] | wagnerrp: | or... just tell mythbuntu to update to the autobuilds |
| [01:41:19] | tgm4883: | yea, update to autobuilds |
| [01:41:22] | stevieman: | well I guess that's a better idea |
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| [01:49:20] | darkdrgn2k3: | hmm anyone know what spif in a Nvidia GT21x is hdmi out? |
| [01:49:32] | wagnerrp: | spif? |
| [01:49:52] | darkdrgn2k3: | doh |
| [01:49:53] | darkdrgn2k3: | S/PDIF |
| [01:49:59] | darkdrgn2k3: | lost a few characters there |
| [01:50:03] | darkdrgn2k3: | like a / and a d |
| [01:50:06] | wagnerrp: | the GT210 doesnt do SPDIF |
| [01:50:29] | darkdrgn2k3: | in alsamixer in Nvidia GT21x HDMI i see 4 spdifs numbered 1 – 4 |
| [01:50:36] | darkdrgn2k3: | uhh null – 3rather |
| [01:50:49] | wagnerrp: | well anyway, you shouldnt be using SPDIF |
| [01:50:56] | wagnerrp: | the HDMI output is far more capable |
| [01:51:22] | darkdrgn2k3: | i was under the impression that a spdif channel controled the hdmi audio out |
| [01:51:36] | wagnerrp: | no, SPDIF is limited to 2mbps |
| [01:51:45] | wagnerrp: | the HDMI output can manage several MBps |
| [01:51:53] | darkdrgn2k3: | odd |
| [01:51:57] | darkdrgn2k3: | in the other front end |
| [01:52:10] | darkdrgn2k3: | i had to unmute aa spdif channel to allow HDMI audio to work... |
| [01:52:43] | wagnerrp: | 24-bit/96kHz/7.1 LPCM is easily doable over HDMI, but about 10x the bandwidth SPDIF allows |
| [01:52:52] | darkdrgn2k3: | im sorry |
| [01:52:55] | stevieman: | does anyone know how I get mythbuntu to update to auto-builds? |
| [01:52:57] | darkdrgn2k3: | im confusing that with IEC958... |
| [01:53:25] | wagnerrp: | tgm4883: ^^^ |
| [01:54:39] | darkdrgn2k3: | no |
| [01:54:46] | darkdrgn2k3: | alsamixer shows spdif as well |
| [01:54:49] | darkdrgn2k3: | maybe its just mislabled? |
| [01:55:18] | darkdrgn2k3: | but aplay -L shows hdmi:CARD=NVidia |
| [01:55:20] | darkdrgn2k3: | so i guess im good :) |
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| [02:05:21] | [R]: | talk about efficiency... i paid my schedules direct renawl, and right from paypal it said "click here to go back to schedules direct" and it already had my new renewal date... |
| [02:11:59] | darkdrgn2k3: | [r] go go gagit paypal-apis |
| [02:12:11] | tgm4883: | stevieman, wagnerrp did you install the auto-builds package? |
| [02:12:38] | [R]: | darkdrgn2k3: haha |
| [02:13:06] | tgm4883: | it would be mythbuntu-repos.deb |
| [02:16:19] | tgm4883: | well i'm headed out to dinner. You should just need to install the mythbuntu-repos.deb package then debconf will prompt you to enable auto-builds and select a version. Once finished, run apt-get update then apt-get upgrade to update your packages |
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| [02:21:43] | stevieman: | tgm4883: I have no idea |
| [02:22:44] | russell5: | anyone with fios and a 2500 model cable box that uses serial |
| [02:26:03] | stevieman: | So do I update to 23.1 using the autobuilds? |
| [02:26:13] | wagnerrp: | yes |
| [02:26:37] | stevieman: | cool |
| [02:27:00] | stevieman: | so can I use this to update to .24 when it's released? |
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| [02:28:05] | stevieman: | what repo do I use? |
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| [03:02:02] | darkdrgn2k3: | ok what am i missing |
| [03:02:08] | darkdrgn2k3: | 2010-10–22 23:01:24.586 MSqlDatabase::OpenDatabase(), db object is not valid! |
| [03:02:12] | darkdrgn2k3: | i got qt-mysql installed... |
| [03:14:57] | darkdrgn2k3: | arg whats missing |
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| [03:16:59] | darkdrgn2k3: | i check i have the same mysql packages that i have on another |
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| [03:23:55] | gkffjcs: | Hey all is there a definitive list of all tuner cards currently known to work well with MythTV? |
| [03:25:04] | darkdrgn2k3: | soemwhere in the wiki |
| [03:25:11] | tank-man: | probably same list as the ones that work with linux in general |
| [03:25:15] | wagnerrp: | !url tuners |
| [03:25:15] | MythLogBot: | tuners: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hardwar . . . _Information |
| [03:25:54] | darkdrgn2k3: | wagnerrp:ok what packages are needed to make mysql work with myth? |
| [03:25:56] | darkdrgn2k3: | qt mysql |
| [03:26:00] | darkdrgn2k3: | do you need python as well |
| [03:26:05] | wagnerrp: | no |
| [03:26:18] | wagnerrp: | mythtv doesnt run on python |
| [03:26:24] | darkdrgn2k3: | thats wha ti thought |
| [03:26:24] | wagnerrp: | only a couple of the metadata grabbers require python |
| [03:26:30] | darkdrgn2k3: | but i get |
| [03:26:30] | darkdrgn2k3: | QSqlDatabase: QMYSQL3 driver not loaded |
| [03:26:31] | darkdrgn2k3: | QSqlDatabase: available drivers: QSQLITE |
| [03:26:48] | darkdrgn2k3: | and i have qt-mysql-4.6.3–8.fc13.i686 installed |
| [03:26:48] | wagnerrp: | then you dont have the qt mysql libraries installed |
| [03:27:53] | darkdrgn2k3: | qt3 or at4? |
| [03:27:55] | darkdrgn2k3: | qt |
| [03:28:05] | darkdrgn2k3: | ..doesnt matter i have qt3-MySQL installed to |
| [03:28:22] | darkdrgn2k3: | so what am i missing? |
| [03:28:52] | stevieman: | which repo should I use for the autobuild update? |
| [03:32:30] | jstenback: | Captain_Murdoch: here now |
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| [03:40:42] | brianboonstra: | Anyone else having trouble with mythfilldatabase and SchedulesDirect? I dont' see it populating in trunk or 0.24. |
| [03:42:20] | gkffjcs: | Has anyone used a Sarbent Tuner Card? |
| [03:42:57] | jstenback: | anyone else having problems getting to svn.mythtv.org? |
| [03:43:08] | wagnerrp: | gkffjcs: is it listed on linuxtv.org? |
| [03:43:44] | gkffjcs: | I will check wagnerrp I wasn't aware of that resource thanks! |
| [03:43:56] | wagnerrp: | i gave it when you first came in |
| [03:43:59] | wagnerrp: | !url tuners |
| [03:43:59] | MythLogBot: | tuners: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hardwar . . . _Information |
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| [03:44:16] | brianboonstra: | svn appears dead for now |
| [03:44:23] | jstenback: | same here |
| [03:44:25] | wagnerrp: | brianboonstra, jstenback: it happens... |
| [03:44:32] | jstenback: | seems to, yeah |
| [03:44:39] | wagnerrp: | wait, subversion is down? or trac is down? |
| [03:44:46] | gkffjcs: | Is there a specific page on that site where I can find listings? |
| [03:44:55] | jstenback: | wagnerrp: both, it seems |
| [03:45:01] | wagnerrp: | subversion is working for me |
| [03:45:27] | wagnerrp: | trac uses a sqlite database, and it occasionally gets locked |
| [03:45:34] | wagnerrp: | it takes some time before it resets itself |
| [03:46:09] | brianboonstra: | I always wondered what these timeouts were about...funny that trac uses SQLite and Myth uses MySQL |
| [03:46:28] | wagnerrp: | yeah, its something a number of us have complained about for years |
| [03:46:40] | wagnerrp: | someone with access just needs to get around to migrating it over |
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| [03:46:59] | wagnerrp: | gkffjcs: listings? |
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| [03:50:08] | atrus: | any way under the current 0.24 branch to: a) allow output to ALSA:pulse, or b) get 5.1 audio through the Pulseaudio:default output? |
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| [03:51:34] | atrus: | i've confirmed that 5.1 audio to pulseaudio natively and via ALSA both work correctly outside of mythtv. |
| [03:52:51] | gkffjcs: | I found it in the listings... It looks like the card needs kernel modules to be loaded manually, but it also mentions that in the latest kernel the card has good drivers and support, I am not afraid of loading kernel modules as I am a relitively experienced linux user so I will be trying my luck with this card. thanks for pointing me to the right information! |
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| [03:56:03] | atrus: | aha, disregard. ALSA:pulse seems to work okay currently |
| [03:57:20] | brianboonstra: | So mythfilldatabase -v all shows stuff like this, but no program listings appear in the UI: 2010-10–22 22:17:14.159 MSqlQuery::exec(DataDirectCon) INSERT INTO dd_program ( programid, title, subtitle, description, showtype, category_type, mpaarating, starrating, stars, runtime, year, seriesid, colorcode, syndicatedepisodenumber, |
| [03:57:20] | brianboonstra: | originalairdate) VALUES ('EP000170700418', 'Cops', 'Kansas City, Missouri; Kansas City, Kansas', 'Suspect slits his wrists; officer is injured in a traffic accident; domestic dispute involves a crack addict.', 'Series', 'series', '', '', '0', '', '', 'EP00017070', '', '1022', '1998-05–02') |
| [03:57:59] | brianboonstra: | mysql> SELECT * from mythconverg.program; |
| [03:57:59] | brianboonstra: | Empty set (0.00 sec) |
| [03:58:16] | [R]: | brianboonstra: notice how its inserting into dd_program, not program |
| [03:58:25] | brianboonstra: | yes that's a temp table |
| [03:59:23] | brianboonstra: | Not really sure where in the logs to look for when the temp entries get put in the main tables, but I tried both with and without the dd-grab-all flag |
| [03:59:39] | [R]: | how big is the log? |
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| [04:01:05] | brianboonstra: | 22MB :-P |
| [04:02:04] | [R]: | make a regular log |
| [04:02:06] | [R]: | and pastebin it |
| [04:02:16] | [R]: | with grab all |
| [04:02:25] | [R]: | and what version? |
| [04:02:53] | brianboonstra: | This is this afternoon's build of 0.24-fixes, OSX 10.6.4 |
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| [04:03:42] | brianboonstra: | @R: Uh, what does "grab all" mean in this context |
| [04:04:05] | [R]: | dd-grab-all |
| [04:04:06] | [R]: | ... |
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| [04:04:53] | brianboonstra: | dumb q |
| [04:07:21] | brianboonstra: | http://pastebin.com/ymZBUcgg |
| [04:07:25] | Captain_Murdoch: | jstenback, I sent you an email to check something. |
| [04:07:40] | jstenback: | Captain_Murdoch: looking |
| [04:08:24] | [R]: | 2010-10–22 23:04:29.475 No channels are configured to use grabber. |
| [04:08:28] | [R]: | brianboonstra: well that doesnt' look good |
| [04:08:34] | jstenback: | Captain_Murdoch: I apparently do not have a mythpreviewgen binary |
| [04:08:44] | jstenback: | Captain_Murdoch: might be a minimyth bug |
| [04:09:05] | Captain_Murdoch: | ok, great, so we know what caused the issue. |
| [04:09:25] | jstenback: | Captain_Murdoch: ok, the lack of the preview generator binary? |
| [04:09:36] | brianboonstra: | @R: a MythTV-Setup problem ? I did put SD into the app but I'm a bit of a rookie w.r.t. setup |
| [04:10:10] | brianboonstra: | I noticed, though, that during setup, the fetch lineups stuff failed to work |
| [04:10:15] | Captain_Murdoch: | jstenback, yep. if that binary doesn't exist or isn't executable, then we punt to the master to tell it to generate the preview. |
| [04:10:28] | [R]: | brianboonstra: yeah... the documenation explains all the steps you have to do |
| [04:10:28] | jstenback: | ah, ok |
| [04:10:34] | [R]: | brianboonstra: you ahvet o do them all, in order |
| [04:10:48] | [R]: | brianboonstra: but if fetch channels failed... you have no channels |
| [04:10:58] | [R]: | brianboonstra: randomly ignoring errors is a bad thing |
| [04:11:01] | brianboonstra: | Well I have channels but they are all from a scan |
| [04:11:07] | jstenback: | Captain_Murdoch: I'll let the minimyth author know that it's not being installed |
| [04:11:11] | brianboonstra: | Fair enough on the errs |
| [04:11:12] | Captain_Murdoch: | ok, minimyth should install mythpreviewgen when it installs mythbackend. |
| [04:11:22] | jstenback: | Captain_Murdoch: I'm guessing that binary is new in 0.24? |
| [04:11:28] | Captain_Murdoch: | yes |
| [04:11:35] | jstenback: | ok, makes sense |
| [04:11:50] | brianboonstra: | I'll try again, reading the docs better before posting my next silly q. Thanks! |
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| [04:27:15] | wagnerrp: | Captain_Murdoch: still around? |
| [04:27:22] | Captain_Murdoch: | yeah |
| [04:27:35] | wagnerrp: | is it you or sphery currently working on the videofile schema? |
| [04:31:37] | jstenback: | Captain_Murdoch: message (with guess at a fix) for minimyth posted on the minimyth forums. I'll keep an eye on it and make sure it gets fixed |
| [04:32:24] | Captain_Murdoch: | wagnerrp, sphery is the one running with it now, I haven't done much since the schema was posted. |
| [04:32:30] | Captain_Murdoch: | jstenback, thanks. |
| [04:32:39] | jstenback: | Captain_Murdoch: no, thank you! |
| [04:33:02] | Captain_Murdoch: | others may run into it with other distros ifthey miss the new binary, but the patch Icommitted will at least prevent the event loop. |
| [04:33:25] | jstenback: | yeah, indeed |
| [04:33:43] | jstenback: | Captain_Murdoch: do you know off the top of your head if there are any other new binaries? |
| [04:34:41] | Captain_Murdoch: | not that I can think of. |
| [04:35:20] | Captain_Murdoch: | do you compile from source normally or is that from a package? |
| [04:35:21] | jstenback: | k |
| [04:35:30] | jstenback: | I compile from source |
| [04:35:51] | Captain_Murdoch: | ok, nevermind then. |
| [04:35:59] | jstenback: | (which is very painful, takes like 6 hours or something now on beefy hardware) |
| [04:36:35] | Captain_Murdoch: | you need at least ccache and distcc if you can use that as well. |
| [04:37:36] | jstenback: | Captain_Murdoch: unfortunately it won't compile with ccache, and distcc won't really help since a lot of it won't paralellize much at all (I've got 8 cores locally) |
| [04:38:15] | Captain_Murdoch: | the mythtv tree parallels great |
| [04:38:21] | jstenback: | indeed |
| [04:38:29] | jstenback: | that compiles in a couple of minutes :) |
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| [04:42:33] | sphery: | wagnerrp: any particular questions (or suggestions?) |
| [04:43:28] | wagnerrp: | no, just wondering the status |
| [04:43:39] | wagnerrp: | i was thinking of looking into the jobqueue rewrite a bit this weekend |
| [04:43:45] | sphery: | I just made some updates to the schema a couple days ago |
| [04:43:51] | wagnerrp: | and if all videos are going to be stored in a single table |
| [04:44:06] | wagnerrp: | it would make sense to map jobs against that id, rather than chanid and starttime |
| [04:44:10] | sphery: | http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/wiki/TaskRecordedFile + http://misc.thirdcontact.com/MythTV/recordedfile_schema.png |
| [04:44:18] | wagnerrp: | yea... trac is dead |
| [04:44:28] | wagnerrp: | doesnt seem to be coming back on its own |
| [04:44:32] | sphery: | yeah, the picture works pretty well, though |
| [04:44:38] | sphery: | gives you the general idea |
| [04:44:49] | sphery: | don't know if I should do streaminfo differently, though |
| [04:45:00] | sphery: | I'll need to ask some DB guru, like kormoc_afk |
| [04:45:10] | wagnerrp: | yeah, thinking i should map it off mediafile.fileid |
| [04:45:31] | sphery: | right, that will be the one related to the actual files on disk |
| [04:45:32] | wagnerrp: | not going to allow multiple files against a videofile? |
| [04:45:59] | sphery: | yeah, as many as you want |
| [04:46:13] | wagnerrp: | oh, videopart |
| [04:46:18] | sphery: | recordedfile and videopart map recorded and videofilemetadata to files |
| [04:46:22] | sphery: | yeah |
| [04:46:29] | wagnerrp: | right, was thinking videofile was something different |
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| [04:46:55] | sphery: | yeah, the naming gets kind of confusing |
| [04:47:25] | wagnerrp: | so images and trailers are all going to be mapped to mediafiles? |
| [04:47:27] | sphery: | I still have to do the db update that brings mythvideo schema into tv schema |
| [04:47:30] | sphery: | it's going to be ugly |
| [04:47:42] | sphery: | right, images, trailers, previews, ... |
| [04:47:56] | sphery: | any file that's related to a recording or video |
| [04:48:18] | sphery: | videofilemetadata will probably become videometadata, at least eventually |
| [04:48:34] | sphery: | since file stuff is generally right of the metadata stuff |
| [04:49:06] | sphery: | I think it's videofilemetadata mainly so it's different from videometadata |
| [04:49:17] | sphery: | lots of stuff in videometadata will need converting |
| [04:49:34] | sphery: | I also need to ask iamlindoro if there's anything missing from that |
| [04:50:26] | wagnerrp: | yeah, lots of stuff |
| [04:50:38] | sphery: | lots missing? |
| [04:51:58] | wagnerrp: | tagline, studio, releasedate, watched, processed, homepage |
| [04:52:24] | wagnerrp: | director could probably be removed, if people is merged |
| [04:52:40] | wagnerrp: | year perhaps derived from releasedate |
| [04:53:44] | sphery: | wonder if CM had some other plan for any of those or if they're just newer than his original design |
| [04:54:05] | Captain_Murdoch: | sphery, do you happen to know what "MythTV Branch" (aka myth_source_path from version.cpp) is in an exported svn tree? |
| [04:54:06] | wagnerrp: | theyre fairly new |
| [04:54:20] | sphery: | Captain_Murdoch: pretty sure "Unknown" |
| [04:54:22] | Captain_Murdoch: | think they were newer than my stuff and I didn't concentrate on MVthat much. |
| [04:55:03] | Captain_Murdoch: | sphery, hmm, so for an exported tree, I may have to use the library API version to get the version number to use for the Theme Chooser. |
| [04:55:31] | wagnerrp: | sphery: is it possible to have a auto_increment shared between two tables? |
| [04:56:09] | sphery: | I still kind of want to remove coverfile, trailer, screenshot, banner, fanart from videofilemetadata and just use the mediafile.type to find them, but I'm not sure how resource intensive the joins would be |
| [04:56:18] | sphery: | wagnerrp: good question |
| [04:56:20] | sphery: | where for? |
| [04:56:41] | wagnerrp: | a shared 'id' for recorded and videofilemetadata |
| [04:56:55] | wagnerrp: | im just wondering for handling shared people/genre/country |
| [04:57:02] | wagnerrp: | instead of the current independent ones for each |
| [04:57:15] | sphery: | Captain_Murdoch: probably. I think most distro packagers are using a script that puts a good value in place, but some of the smaller ones aren't--and with all the changes to trunk, it's quite possible that the script *buntu, Fedora, ... were using is broken, now |
| [04:58:02] | Captain_Murdoch: | ok, if it's not trunk and not "release-.*" then I'll pull from the library API version. |
| [04:58:04] | sphery: | wagnerrp: so consolidate those into a single table? |
| [04:58:27] | iamlindoro: | You want to consolidate people, genre, and country? |
| [04:58:30] | iamlindoro: | That's not going to work |
| [04:58:40] | wagnerrp: | no, i mean have one 'people' table |
| [04:58:42] | sphery: | Captain_Murdoch: that's a good plan... it may actually be Exported or soemthing |
| [04:58:52] | wagnerrp: | rather than independent ones for videos and recordings |
| [04:59:02] | iamlindoro: | the RC1 tarball should read .24-rc1 as the version |
| [04:59:21] | iamlindoro: | since part of the release script is echoing the variable into mythtv/VERSION |
| [05:00:09] | Captain_Murdoch: | iamlindoro, this isn't the version, it's the svn path. it says 'trunk' for trunk, and 'branches/release-0-24-fixes' for -fixes. |
| [05:03:07] | sphery: | wagnerrp: ok, so watched is in videofile, so that would be available for both videos and recordings |
| [05:03:36] | sphery: | processed is indicating whether it's been processed for metadata grabbing? |
| [05:03:43] | wagnerrp: | correct |
| [05:04:00] | sphery: | ok, so looks like I need to add tagline, studio, releasedate, processed, homepage |
| [05:04:04] | sphery: | thanks for looking |
| [05:05:29] | wagnerrp: | length should probably be in videofile |
| [05:06:16] | wagnerrp: | or maybe videoinfo |
| [05:07:18] | wagnerrp: | although that would require each file to be opened once to populate |
| [05:07:24] | wagnerrp: | so i dont know |
| [05:07:53] | wagnerrp: | if course all the streaminfo stuff needs that |
| [05:07:56] | wagnerrp: | *of |
| [05:09:18] | sphery: | what is length? |
| [05:09:24] | sphery: | # of seconds of playback? |
| [05:09:37] | wagnerrp: | yeah |
| [05:09:54] | sphery: | yeah, we're not storing that at all for recordings |
| [05:10:11] | sphery: | though maybe doing so would make sense |
| [05:10:16] | wagnerrp: | perhaps showlevel removed in favor of a shared form of recordedrating |
| [05:11:15] | wagnerrp: | the mythvideo grabbers will pull that information, but AFAIK they dont do anything with it |
| [05:11:49] | sphery: | so on consolidating people and all, wouldn't we just move director and videometadatacast into people? |
| [05:12:02] | wagnerrp: | yes |
| [05:12:21] | sphery: | so we wouldn't need a shared autoincrement, then, right? since it would only be one table |
| [05:12:24] | wagnerrp: | im just saying there is also videocountry and videogenre, dont know if those would be worth anything for recordings |
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| [05:13:21] | wagnerrp: | so then videometadatacast would have fields videoid,chanid,starttime,castid,role? |
| [05:13:29] | wagnerrp: | or would you have one videocast |
| [05:13:35] | wagnerrp: | and separate maps for videos and recordings |
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| [05:14:04] | iamlindoro: | guys, if you could hold off on proposing major changes like this until a time when I'm able to spend some time talking to you both about it, I'd appreciate it |
| [05:14:16] | iamlindoro: | since some of the stuff that has just been discussed is totally inaccurate |
| [05:15:15] | iamlindoro: | eg, length is a value in minutes, not seconds, rating most definitely is used, and there are reasons to keep the video cast separate |
| [05:15:35] | iamlindoro: | But I need sleep, early morning tomorrow |
| [05:15:57] | sphery: | right now it's just talk |
| [05:16:06] | sphery: | initial conversion won't change anything, really |
| [05:16:12] | sphery: | just where the data is stored |
| [05:16:21] | sphery: | mainly for the file info |
| [05:16:37] | sphery: | but, yeah, we'd definitely talk to you first |
| [05:16:39] | sphery: | :) |
| [05:16:45] | wagnerrp: | anyway... original question |
| [05:16:53] | sphery: | yeah, now I see what you mean |
| [05:17:03] | wagnerrp: | jobqueue based off mediafile.fileid instead of chanid/starttime? |
| [05:17:36] | sphery: | yeah, that's how it will need to be |
| [05:18:02] | wagnerrp: | length is minutes? to be honest, ive never really messed with that field |
| [05:18:18] | sphery: | though it probably wouldn't be much difference in the design, would it? |
| [05:19:11] | wagnerrp: | anyway, i was just thinking about length being mapped to an individual file specifically so it could be used for recordings |
| [05:19:29] | wagnerrp: | right now, its just measured from endtime-starttime |
| [05:19:37] | wagnerrp: | which is inaccurate if youve transcoded |
| [05:19:51] | wagnerrp: | a show might only be 43 minutes, but will still list 60 |
| [05:20:38] | sphery: | where does length show other than in playback for a recording? |
| [05:20:49] | sphery: | in playback it still best-guesses based on # of frames |
| [05:21:13] | sphery: | maybe in MythWeb Recorded Programs or something? |
| [05:21:27] | wagnerrp: | oh, thats in mythweb, right |
| [05:21:35] | sphery: | yeah |
| [05:21:39] | wagnerrp: | i knew i had seen it somewhere, and it bothered me |
| [05:21:52] | sphery: | like you said, it may make sense to have a length stored for recordings, too |
| [05:22:19] | sphery: | and if so, then it makes sense to put it on the right hand side somewhere |
| [05:23:10] | sphery: | like in videofile? |
| [05:24:40] | rhpot1991: | so I'm wondering if the custom filter containing "colorspace=0" in the vdpau playback profiles is still default or if I have some old data in here from upgrades? |
| [05:25:14] | sphery: | if it's just colorspace=0, that's old garbage |
| [05:25:20] | rhpot1991: | yep |
| [05:25:50] | rhpot1991: | should it be vdpaucolorspace anymore, or will that default to auto and be good enough? |
| [05:26:27] | sphery: | no idea |
| [05:26:46] | sphery: | though look closely at the nvidia drivers, which now support ColorSpace and ColorRange for HDMI |
| [05:27:43] | rhpot1991: | thanks sphery |
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| [05:29:03] | sphery: | ok, since auto is a valid setting for it, if it doesn't default to auto, it's a very confusing implementation' |
| [05:29:16] | sphery: | and if it can do auto, I wonder why it's a setting |
| [05:29:45] | rhpot1991: | I'll just remove the old colorspace and see how things goes |
| [05:30:07] | rhpot1991: | hit a cpufreq issue after my last upgrade and I'm just checking on the vdpau settings now for sanity |
| [05:30:26] | sphery: | cpufreq downclocked the bus or something? |
| [05:30:52] | rhpot1991: | it was ondemand and my cpu was hitting 80% and I had bufferunderruns |
| [05:31:03] | rhpot1991: | changing it to performance seems to have solved the issue |
| [05:31:07] | rhpot1991: | athlon x2 |
| [05:31:17] | wagnerrp: | sphery: im thinking this would be a good time to take job creation out of the database |
| [05:31:42] | sphery: | rhpot1991: yeah, if it was downclocking, that would have affected the bus, so would likely have made it impossible to push data fast enough |
| [05:31:42] | wagnerrp: | shift it onto the backend protocol |
| [05:31:46] | sphery: | wagnerrp: good plan |
| [05:32:34] | rhpot1991: | sphery: kinda annoying cause it was working fine before so I assumed I broke something and all, oh well we'll see if it behaves well from this point on |
| [05:33:29] | sphery: | if you want to keep it on ondemand for normal running, not during playback, use a MythTV system event to flip it to performance at playback started and back to ondemand at playback finished |
| [05:33:41] | sphery: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythTV_System_Events |
| [05:33:58] | sphery: | er, playback stopped |
| [05:34:10] | wagnerrp: | make sure to check the 'sender' in your script, so you only do it on the machine you want |
| [05:34:51] | sphery: | wagnerrp: so should mythlink.pl be updated to check the sender |
| [05:35:25] | wagnerrp: | not sure why |
| [05:35:26] | sphery: | I still haven't set up the system events for that--still running the daily cron |
| [05:35:44] | sphery: | otherwise, would all 3 backends delete and recreate the link? |
| [05:36:13] | wagnerrp: | sure, if youre running the script on three machines all using the same shared directory to create the links |
| [05:36:29] | sphery: | or, in my case--where each backend sees only its own files--would the other backend run mythlink.pl and not find the recording file, so not create the link |
| [05:36:30] | wagnerrp: | im talking about him having multiple frontends, and having the script installed on each |
| [05:36:45] | wagnerrp: | any time any one of them started playback, it would issue the event globally |
| [05:37:00] | wagnerrp: | but he would only want the machine actually actively playing to go into 'high power' |
| [05:37:10] | sphery: | right |
| [05:37:29] | sphery: | but wouldn't anyone running mythlink.pl as a system event want only one backend to create the new link |
| [05:37:35] | wagnerrp: | where if you were running mythlink on a shared folder, you would only need one backend to run the script |
| [05:37:43] | wagnerrp: | meaning you would only have the event handler set up on one machine |
| [05:37:53] | sphery: | and even unshared, it would only succeed on one backend |
| [05:38:11] | wagnerrp: | unshared, you would want it to run on all of them |
| [05:38:13] | sphery: | so it still makes sense |
| [05:38:15] | sphery: | right |
| [05:38:18] | wagnerrp: | either way, you wouldnt care about the sender |
| [05:38:42] | sphery: | so when a recording starts on my mbe, who gets the message? |
| [05:38:47] | wagnerrp: | everyone |
| [05:38:52] | sphery: | so it makes sense to check |
| [05:39:00] | wagnerrp: | im still not understanding why |
| [05:39:18] | sphery: | that way when users with shared dirs configure it on multiple hosts, it won't keep deleting/creating the link one time per backend |
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| [05:40:15] | wagnerrp: | if they are writing links to a shared drive, then they only configure it to run on one machine |
| [05:40:18] | sphery: | /and/ without shared dirs, it will prevent the backend that can't see the file from going to the trouble of querying the DB, looking in all the storage group directories, then falling back to all the directories in /all/ the storage groups, then falling back to the hardcoded directory |
| [05:40:34] | sphery: | yes, because /our/ uses never misconfigure anything |
| [05:40:38] | sphery: | users |
| [05:41:18] | sphery: | anyway, from what you've said, it sounds like it makes it more robust to actually check |
| [05:41:21] | wagnerrp: | im trying to think of the behavior that will always work, rather than the one that will sometimes run more efficiently |
| [05:41:21] | sphery: | so we should |
| [05:41:38] | sphery: | so it can fail if we check the sender? |
| [05:41:48] | sphery: | oh, you mean if they only configure it on one host |
| [05:42:08] | wagnerrp: | if they only configure it on one host with shared links, not checking works properly |
| [05:42:21] | wagnerrp: | if they configure it on every host, with local links, not checking works properly |
| [05:42:37] | wagnerrp: | the only time you would want to check is if either its misconfigured |
| [05:42:45] | wagnerrp: | or if they dont have the recording directories mapped over nfs |
| [05:43:00] | sphery: | yeah |
| [05:43:04] | sphery: | and I don't have NFS |
| [05:43:28] | wagnerrp: | in the first case, it just means theyll run it N times more than necessary... not a big problem |
| [05:43:48] | wagnerrp: | in the second case, it means they will run when they dont have access to the content, and will just fail out when it finds that |
| [05:45:03] | wagnerrp: | if you check it, and the recordings are available over nfs, it will not show up for any remote recordings |
| [05:49:59] | sphery: | yeah |
| [05:50:27] | sphery: | I'll just put the check in my wrapper script |
| [05:50:59] | wagnerrp: | maybe add it as an option, --local or something |
| [05:51:15] | sphery: | nah, like you said, it works fine as it is |
| [05:51:23] | sphery: | and will always work |
| [05:51:51] | sphery: | I just wasn't seeing the properly-configured-with-shared-directories side of things |
| [05:52:04] | wagnerrp: | apparently ABC, CBS and NBC have all blocked the google tv from their web content |
| [05:52:23] | sphery: | and Fox is having frantic meetings to decide what to do |
| [05:53:07] | sphery: | at least per http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN2111296920101022 |
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| [05:57:07] | Captain_Murdoch: | wagnerrp, at least some of those want you to use hulu plus instead. |
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| [05:57:21] | Captain_Murdoch: | coming soon to a roku near you |
| [05:58:09] | wagnerrp: | apparently hulu is also blocking the googletv |
| [05:58:10] | sphery: | Captain_Murdoch: only with subscription? |
| [05:58:21] | Captain_Murdoch: | sphery, yeah, that's the 'plus' part. |
| [05:58:26] | wagnerrp: | but, you can bypass it by changing your UA |
| [05:58:36] | wagnerrp: | i wonder if you can do the same thing for the network content |
| [05:58:42] | sphery: | I find it funny that iPhone can only use Hulu with a subscription |
| [05:59:01] | sphery: | wagnerrp: careful or you'll get booted for discussing how to violate ToS |
| [05:59:05] | sphery: | :) |
| [05:59:12] | Captain_Murdoch: | netflix sub is good enough for me and I can use that on my iphone and Touches. |
| [05:59:33] | sphery: | yeah, netflix makes more sense to me |
| [05:59:46] | sphery: | but I'm a patient man, so I don't mind waiting a year to catch a season |
| [06:00:10] | wagnerrp: | i saw some claim that netflix streaming takes some 20% of primetime internet traffic |
| [06:00:22] | wagnerrp: | not sure if i believe that, thats a /lot/ of bandwidth |
| [06:00:51] | sphery: | at one point, they were shipping DVDs each day whose total storage size was far greater than the capacity of the Internet |
| [06:01:30] | sphery: | granted, the streaming is much lower res/bitrate, but it shows there's a lot of shows going out |
| [06:01:55] | ** Captain_Murdoch hasn't watched a shipped DVD in 2–3 months, just been using streaming. ** | |
| [06:02:10] | wagnerrp: | apparently its dynamic, 500–1500kbps |
| [06:02:14] | sphery: | yeah, I think Netflix is going to turn into a streaming company--whether they want to or not |
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| [06:02:47] | Captain_Murdoch: | need to totally reorder my physical DVD queue since I use streaming so much. |
| [06:03:13] | sphery: | I'm actually surprised that just when HDTVs start to get popular, people move to the low-res/low-bitrate streamed video |
| [06:03:25] | sphery: | sure it's not bad, but it's kind of funny |
| [06:03:53] | sphery: | I bought an episode of Supernatural on XBox Live, and the quality was fine--then again, I had to download it then watch it, IIRC. |
| [06:04:19] | Captain_Murdoch: | looks pretty decent on my plasma, it's not OTA quality, but good enough most of the time. |
| [06:04:37] | sphery: | not which OTA quality |
| [06:04:41] | sphery: | better than NTSC, right? |
| [06:04:45] | Captain_Murdoch: | yes |
| [06:04:54] | Captain_Murdoch: | not ATSC quality that is. :) |
| [06:04:58] | sphery: | yeah, the one I watched was about DVD quality--just slightly less |
| [06:05:34] | sphery: | it was probably more like the 1500kbps level (since it was a download then watch show) |
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| [06:06:06] | Captain_Murdoch: | that's all I watched tonight in fact, didn't fire up mythfrontend at all, just netflix streaming for the past few hours while working on the laptop. |
| [06:07:56] | sphery: | hmmm.. guess it was more like 6.8Mbps |
| [06:07:58] | sphery: | http://gizmodo.com/5048025/giz-explains-why-h . . . ery-high-def |
| [06:08:29] | sphery: | it was an HDTV episode |
| [06:08:49] | sphery: | no wonder I didn't notice the quality as being low |
| [06:08:59] | wagnerrp: | satellite is all <10mbps? |
| [06:09:15] | Captain_Murdoch: | sphery, yeah, my last few hours appears to have averaged ~300KBytes/sec at least according to cacti. |
| [06:09:27] | sphery: | <10 for H.264 is probably about as good as ATSC gets |
| [06:09:49] | sphery: | Captain_Murdoch: cool, that's not too bad |
| [06:10:03] | sphery: | unfortunately, the little chart doesn't show Netflix streaming on it |
| [06:10:08] | wagnerrp: | WTF is samba pulling so much CPU... |
| [06:10:14] | sphery: | it does show "Web "HD" downloads" |
| [06:10:45] | sphery: | heh: Xbox Live Marketplace has the highest bitrate-and indeed, often gets props for its quality-at close to 6.8Mbps. |
| [06:10:55] | sphery: | like I said, it wasn't bad :) |
| [06:11:18] | sphery: | now I have to rethink my, "it's not bad," stance on the streaming videos |
| [06:11:25] | wagnerrp: | shame that itunes stuff is CAVLC, so mark the bitrate 30% less for quality sake |
| [06:12:02] | ** Captain_Murdoch is off to bed ** | |
| [06:13:29] | sphery: | wow, the Vudu 20Mbps sounds good |
| [06:13:44] | sphery: | but since this was a Sep 2008 story, I wonder if it's dead |
| [06:17:33] | wagnerrp: | Captain_Murdoch: before you go, any idea what could be causing a mythproto command to fill up the HTTP queue? |
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| [06:19:33] | sphery: | woah, Wal-Mart bought Vudu in Feb |
| [06:20:29] | sphery: | and now Redbox is aiming to take out Netflix: http://gizmodo.com/5591153/redbox-tries-to-ex . . . e-on-netflix |
| [06:28:57] | wagnerrp: | sphery: from the comments... 'in other news, redtube tries to take on youtube by expanding... well... other things' |
| [06:30:16] | sphery: | wait, so was that a joke article? |
| [06:30:25] | sphery: | or just a bad joke comment |
| [06:30:30] | wagnerrp: | no, bad joke comment |
| [06:30:41] | wagnerrp: | rather, crude joke comment |
| [06:31:28] | sphery: | ah |
| [06:32:00] | wagnerrp: | 'redtube' being one of those things we frequently pick up in the BadContent filter on trac |
| [06:32:20] | sphery: | ahhh |
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| [07:54:35] | lowone: | hello, does anyone know if the debian testing version of mythtv supports vdpau? or do i need to build it myself? |
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| [09:42:41] | eFfeM: | trying to install mythtv with lighttpd but keep getting Fatal error: Call to a member function query_col() on a non-object in /www/pages/modules/backend_log/init.php on line 19 |
| [09:42:42] | eFfeM: | guess this is credentials related; anyone a suggestion what I should to to make a simple setup (don't need too much security) |
| [09:42:55] | eFfeM: | anyone a ptr ? |
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| [09:48:43] | sid3windr: | yes, install apache |
| [09:49:51] | eFfeM: | hm, this is on an arm system, getting apache+php to cross-compile is a major nightmare; and actually got this running a while ago with 0.22 |
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| [11:02:14] | euedlg: | Is there any way to make mythtv understand a directory structure like Media/Movies/Movie1/movie1.avi without listing every movie directory individually? (purely for media library playback) |
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| [14:19:07] | darkdrgn2k3: | morning all |
| [14:19:15] | darkdrgn2k3: | i managed to get my ion's hdmi hardware to show up in fedora now |
| [14:19:31] | darkdrgn2k3: | but when i try outputting sound to hdmi i get this http://pastebin.ca/1970948 |
| [14:19:33] | darkdrgn2k3: | any sugestions |
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| [14:31:30] | darkdrgn2k3: | Disabling Audio, reason is: Aborting Audio Reconfigure. Invalid audio parameters ch 2 fmt 0 @ 44100Hz <- i think that might be the reason |
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| [14:56:31] | wagnerrp: | lowone: mythtv builds with vdpau enabled by default |
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| [15:26:25] | ripperda: | anyone know how to hide the mouse cursor in mythtv? specifically, I have the option selected, but when I come back from suspend, the cursor is visible again |
| [15:27:14] | justinh: | weird. that shouldn't happen |
| [15:27:40] | ripperda: | I usually need to exit the frontend and restart to hide the cursor again |
| [15:27:50] | justinh: | for me it's easy. 1. I don't have a mouse connected and 2. I don't use suspend either (not worth it when booting takes about 25secs) |
| [15:28:06] | justinh: | sounds like your problem has something to do with X |
| [15:28:30] | ripperda: | yes, I wonder how quick my boot would be. I should experiment with that |
| [15:28:43] | ripperda: | ah well, I'll work on some scripts to stop/start the frontend automatically |
| [15:29:15] | justinh: | that's basically a stock ubuntu boot time.. not fettled it to remove extras yet |
| [15:29:43] | justinh: | and that'd from a 2.5" sata HDD.. not ssd or anything similarly exotic |
| [15:30:28] | wagnerrp: | id rather keep those 23 seconds |
| [15:30:45] | wagnerrp: | plus my boot time takes quite a bit longer |
| [15:32:32] | wagnerrp: | i should play around with initng |
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| [15:42:29] | sphery: | ripperda: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/436181#436181 + http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/443740#443740 |
| [15:43:13] | justinh: | my cable STB takes over 2 mins to fully boot up from powered off |
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| [15:44:59] | wagnerrp: | kormoc: you said youve used initng for years, where do you get it from? |
| [15:45:12] | wagnerrp: | all the documentation for the ebuilds points to svn.initng.org, which doesnt exist |
| [15:45:30] | wagnerrp: | (documentation on where to get the ebuilds, that is) |
| [15:47:15] | ripperda: | sphery, thanks, reading that right now |
| [15:47:48] | sphery: | ripperda: There's a lot of clutter in those threads. If you unclutter it, there's really only one word that's important. |
| [15:48:09] | ripperda: | unclutter or xwit? |
| [15:48:59] | sphery: | wagnerrp: they've moved to Git: http://gitorious.org/initng |
| [15:49:34] | wagnerrp: | sphery: i can find the project, im just wondering if gentoo ebuilds for it still exist |
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| [15:52:54] | sphery: | wagnerrp: I know nothing of ebuilds, but: http://gitorious.org/initng-ebuilds + http://gitorious.org/portage + http://gitorious.org/gentoo-portage-activity-monitor |
| [15:53:09] | sphery: | oh, wait, ignore the last 2 |
| [15:53:13] | sphery: | not initng specific |
| [15:54:08] | wagnerrp: | amazing... wonder why they didnt show up when i searched on that page |
| [15:54:10] | wagnerrp: | thanks |
| [15:59:06] | ripperda: | sphery, thanks, xwit works great |
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| [16:02:08] | ripperda: | another question; I have changed mythvideo to use folders. I still use nfs for my movies (mostly isos) and storage groups for tv shows (all mpeg-2 or mpeg-4) |
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| [16:02:42] | ripperda: | when I first enter mythvideo, the two categories show up as "videos" and "Storage Groups". on another frontend (nearly identical), they come up as "Movies" and "TV Shows" |
| [16:02:59] | ripperda: | I have no idea why the two are different, but is there a way to control what this text shows? |
| [16:03:04] | wagnerrp: | in the 'm' menu, there are alternate sort methods |
| [16:03:18] | wagnerrp: | the default is to sort by the folder structure |
| [16:03:26] | wagnerrp: | but you can also have it automatically generate other structures |
| [16:04:29] | ripperda: | ah, I see, "file browse" mode shows the actual file directory names |
| [16:05:05] | wagnerrp: | no, file browse loads the file list from the filesystem instead of the database, at time of opening mythvideo |
| [16:05:19] | wagnerrp: | which means for large libraries, it is going to take a long time to open |
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| [16:06:11] | ripperda: | ah ok, I'll play around with that. I see a few options, but that's a little lower on my priority list |
| [16:06:21] | ripperda: | I'm looking at some of my playback problems in mythvideo right now |
| [16:07:27] | ripperda: | so when I try to playback anything I've ripped off dvd (either iso or handbraked to mp4), everything works fine. I can skip forward and backwards as much as I want, no problem |
| [16:07:56] | wagnerrp: | but stuff moved from recordings doesnt work properly? |
| [16:08:07] | wagnerrp: | you want to generate skiplists for your videos |
| [16:08:15] | wagnerrp: | only those that contain mpeg2 |
| [16:09:15] | ripperda: | yes, exactly. anytime I try to skip at all, the frontend seems to hang |
| [16:09:39] | wagnerrp: | mythcommflag --video |
| [16:09:46] | ripperda: | do I need skiplists even for non-commercial skipping? |
| [16:10:31] | wagnerrp: | seektable, rather |
| [16:10:52] | wagnerrp: | for mpeg2 content, mythtv provides bit-accurate seeking |
| [16:11:05] | wagnerrp: | it stores a table of the location of each keyframe |
| [16:11:21] | wagnerrp: | so it can seek there instantly |
| [16:11:31] | wagnerrp: | when it doesnt have this (for mpeg2), it gets a little screwy |
| [16:12:15] | ripperda: | ok, thanks. I'll experiment with that |
| [16:12:22] | ripperda: | unfortunately need to run right now. thanks for the tips! |
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| [17:30:45] | agoodm: | hi, ive got two mythtv boxes at different locations on freesat in the uk. ive set up the tv guide and got the first working fine and would like to transfer the guide over to the second one without loosing the recordings or scheduled recordings on the second box... which database tables should i transfer? |
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| [17:35:21] | sphery: | the guide as in program listings? |
| [17:35:37] | sphery: | why transfer? Just re-grab them on the 2nd or set up EIT on the 2nd. |
| [17:36:21] | sphery: | there's really no supported way of transferring program listings because they link into other configuration-specific data |
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| [17:41:52] | sphery: | agoodm: see above + http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/456937#456937 |
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| [17:55:19] | agoodm: | why grab? because i had to input 300 channel numbers manually. eit doesnt work very well on freesat (only now/next) |
| [17:55:37] | agoodm: | sphery |
| [17:56:15] | agoodm: | i need to copy the config over then I can use tv_grab_dvb_plus to populate the data here... thatll save bandwidth |
| [17:56:23] | agoodm: | sphery its the config im missing |
| [17:56:55] | BLZbubba: | is it 100% impossible to watch a 3d hdtv on a normal computer screen? |
| [17:57:41] | sphery: | agoodm: well, no real way to transfer the channel info (which is what you're asking about--not transferring the listings). You'll need to rescan. |
| [17:57:42] | darkdrgn2k3: | any onw know why im getting this error: http://pastebin.ca/1970948 |
| [17:57:43] | agoodm: | BLZbubba, yes |
| [17:58:34] | sphery: | darkdrgn2k3: which of the many errors concerns you? |
| [17:58:35] | BLZbubba: | what is different about it? can't they just encode the 3d on a normal mpeg? |
| [17:58:47] | agoodm: | sphery if I rescan can I somehow copy my channel numbers and xmltvids across? perhaps based on serviceid which is gonna be the same in both instances |
| [17:59:23] | sphery: | agoodm: there's no support for doing so in mythtv |
| [17:59:29] | agoodm: | BLZbubba, 3dtv sets output light polarised one way for one eye and polarised the other way for the other eye then there is a filter in the glasses... |
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| [18:00:30] | sphery: | agoodm: unless the glasses are active-shuttering, in which case they alternately block each eye so that only one eye sees each image |
| [18:00:39] | agoodm: | sphery, hmm when i first set this up i copied the entire database over and just emptied some tables and it worked without rescanning, so im presuming if i copied the right database tables over itd work again... dont wanna do entire db cus ill loose my recording schedules and recorded programs |
| [18:00:54] | darkdrgn2k3: | sphery |
| [18:00:56] | darkdrgn2k3: | sphery: 13.2010-10–23 10:18:04.742 AudioPlayer: Disabling Audio, reason is: Aborting Audio Reconfigure. Invalid audio parameters ch 2 fmt 0 @ 44100Hz |
| [18:01:08] | sphery: | BLZbubba: some monitors and video cards provide support for 3D, but MythTV has no support for it (and, I would be very suprised if you could get it to work in GNU/Linux, even) |
| [18:01:21] | sphery: | darkdrgn2k3: that's unimportant if you get sound. |
| [18:01:32] | darkdrgn2k3: | sphery: i dont :( |
| [18:01:44] | darkdrgn2k3: | i get sound if i play to the intel card for regular speakers |
| [18:01:47] | darkdrgn2k3: | not alsa:hdmi |
| [18:02:05] | sphery: | darkdrgn2k3: did you just upgrade to trunk? |
| [18:02:06] | BLZbubba: | ah it is the refresh rate, you need 120hz for 3d |
| [18:02:16] | sphery: | if so reconfigure your audio--including running the scan for devices part |
| [18:02:18] | darkdrgn2k3: | sphery: not just but i used trunk to compile last night |
| [18:02:31] | darkdrgn2k3: | sphery: yes i saw that and tried that |
| [18:02:31] | sphery: | still start with reconfiguring audio |
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| [18:03:06] | AndyCap: | agoodm: are there any tv's that use polarized light? |
| [18:03:23] | agoodm: | AndyCap, no idea, cinema does tho :D |
| [18:03:28] | sphery: | darkdrgn2k3: well, if you get that error /and/ you get no audio, something in your audio config (either in MythTV or in your sound layer (such as Pulse) or in underlying system/driver config (such as ALSA)) is misconfigured |
| [18:03:33] | darkdrgn2k3: | so utilities/setup/general 4th screen.. scan for audio devces the i select ALSA:hdmi:CARD=NVidia |
| [18:03:33] | sphery: | I don't know what, though |
| [18:04:02] | darkdrgn2k3: | sphery: its an ION.. i dont use pulse so it must be alsa... any way to check the alsa layer? |
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| [18:05:10] | darkdrgn2k3: | (still 2010-10–23 14:04:40.601 AudioPlayer: Disabling Audio, reason is: Aborting Audio Reconfigure. Invalid audio parameters ch 2 fmt 0 @ 44100Hz after the above mentioned lasks) |
| [18:06:23] | darkdrgn2k3: | sphery: odd lower in the config i see "2010-10–23 14:04:41.395 Opening ALSA audio device 'hdmi:CARD=NVidia'." |
| [18:06:28] | darkdrgn2k3: | uhh config=log |
| [18:06:57] | darkdrgn2k3: | so first it errors |
| [18:07:06] | darkdrgn2k3: | then it says ok?!?!? |
| [18:07:12] | darkdrgn2k3: | http://pastebin.ca/1971160 |
| [18:09:26] | wagnerrp: | sphery: other_mike is just getting himself into all sorts of pain... now he wants to run multi-headed |
| [18:10:00] | Trux: | Anyone else having issues with projectM rendering slow (100% CPU) in .23.x ? (.22 was fine and fast) | Running mythtv-0.23.1_p26437, libvisual-projectm-2.0.1, libprojectm-2.0.1-r1 |
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| [18:10:25] | Trux: | In the Gentoo |
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| [18:12:53] | darkdrgn2k3: | hmm what does this mean: http://pastebin.ca/1971162 |
| [18:13:16] | wagnerrp: | means you segfaulted |
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| [18:14:23] | darkdrgn2k3: | on what though? |
| [18:14:29] | darkdrgn2k3: | seemd to have continues? no? |
| [18:14:37] | wagnerrp: | looks like something in ALSA |
| [18:14:59] | darkdrgn2k3: | @$@$% :_S |
| [18:15:25] | wagnerrp: | yes... let your anger flow through you... |
| [18:15:32] | darkdrgn2k3: | OOOOOoooommmm... |
| [18:15:53] | darkdrgn2k3: | damit this hardware was sopposed to work with linux/myth :'( |
| [18:15:57] | sphery: | AndyCap: Sony, Panasonic, Samsung, and Toshiba are pushing active shuttering, and Vizio, LG and some others are--at least--dipping their toes in both pools |
| [18:16:27] | sphery: | wagnerrp: and--as always--asking questions in the most-obfuscated way possible |
| [18:16:39] | wagnerrp: | AndyCap: technically, all LCDs use polarized light |
| [18:16:41] | wagnerrp: | thats how they function |
| [18:17:19] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: you around? |
| [18:17:51] | AndyCap: | wagnerrp: hehe, well they did that before 3d too |
| [18:18:36] | sphery: | but you're definitely right that active-shuttering is more common with current 3D TVs |
| [18:19:01] | wagnerrp: | any reasonable solution is going to require glasses of some sort |
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| [18:19:24] | wagnerrp: | there is no way to do a 3D TV without glasses |
| [18:19:30] | AndyCap: | I'm holding out for passive glasses though |
| [18:19:40] | [R]: | i thought someone came out with something recently that didnt need glasses |
| [18:19:54] | wagnerrp: | there are ways to do 3D monitors for individual persons without glasses |
| [18:20:17] | wagnerrp: | but those set up an interference pattern, such that at certain degrees, you see one image, other degrees you see another image |
| [18:20:29] | wagnerrp: | similar to holograms show you two different images at different angles |
| [18:20:51] | wagnerrp: | which means, you have to be seated at the right angle and distance to see the proper 3D |
| [18:21:03] | wagnerrp: | otherwise, youre either going to see some blended or inverted image |
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| [18:22:36] | wagnerrp: | passive 3D LCDs are doable, but you need a /very/ fast panel |
| [18:23:57] | wagnerrp: | youll need one panel to polarize the backlight, flipping between your two limits at double the refresh rate |
| [18:24:04] | wagnerrp: | normal LCDs just use a passive filter to do that |
| [18:26:01] | wagnerrp: | its a lot easier to do on plasmas, CRTs, and DLPs |
| [18:26:17] | wagnerrp: | since their light is not already polarized by their basic nature |
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| [18:27:26] | [R]: | why can't you just do it with a 120hz and do 60/60? |
| [18:27:27] | wagnerrp: | sphery: why do we still have the X11/XSHM renderers? |
| [18:28:01] | wagnerrp: | [R]: because we dont actually have TVs that run at 120hz |
| [18:28:18] | [R]: | oh... another one of thosee marketing bs'es? |
| [18:28:19] | wagnerrp: | there is a huge discrepancy between the advertised refresh rate and the actual |
| [18:28:38] | wagnerrp: | LCD monitors have been advertised as 2ms response for years now |
| [18:28:57] | [R]: | wagnerrp: but if it truely was 120... could it be done? or am i just making thigns up? |
| [18:29:05] | wagnerrp: | but those things are so overdriven that they require 25ms to stabilize at the proper color |
| [18:30:09] | wagnerrp: | you could probably do it |
| [18:30:21] | [R]: | well how do the active shutter glasses work though |
| [18:30:41] | wagnerrp: | since youre only running between the two limits, you could heavily tune it so hit those precisely |
| [18:31:12] | sphery: | wagnerrp: yes, though I don't know if it works |
| [18:31:36] | wagnerrp: | sphery: i was asking why |
| [18:31:40] | sphery: | it's more there for grabbing screenshots with OSD/subtitles--which no longer needs to be a special renderer with modern X |
| [18:31:42] | wagnerrp: | someone is trying to do video playback in VNC |
| [18:31:48] | wagnerrp: | which means he has to be using one of those |
| [18:31:52] | wagnerrp: | #9139 |
| [18:32:05] | AndyCap: | I think I've edited recordings over vnc. :P |
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| [18:32:17] | sphery: | yeah, that was one of the reasons why requiring OpenGL was shot down in the past |
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| [18:32:38] | wagnerrp: | video playback, not UI painting |
| [18:32:43] | sphery: | because then I can't use mythfrontend playback in VNC/X forwarding/VMs/... |
| [18:32:44] | AndyCap: | it was handy at the time, but hardly a must have. :P |
| [18:33:10] | sphery: | wagnerrp: right, some people are actually trying to do that |
| [18:33:19] | sphery: | and they don't seem to realize just how stupid it is |
| [18:33:24] | sphery: | MHO |
| [18:33:42] | sphery: | wagnerrp: Toshiba announced a no-glasses 3D tv |
| [18:33:45] | sphery: | it's small, though |
| [18:33:56] | sphery: | and, yeah, requires special placement of viewer |
| [18:34:09] | sphery: | 12 and 20in versions, now |
| [18:35:01] | sphery: | oh, and Japan only |
| [18:35:21] | sphery: | Regza GL1 Series |
| [18:35:51] | knightr: | wagnerrp, I think Beirdo was supposed to go camping this weekend... |
| [18:36:03] | [R]: | ewww |
| [18:36:06] | [R]: | like outside? |
| [18:36:18] | wagnerrp: | ah, right.... |
| [18:36:28] | [R]: | with the bugs and bears? |
| [18:36:59] | sphery: | bugbears? |
| [18:37:08] | [R]: | HAHA |
| [18:37:09] | sphery: | glad those haven't made it to FL, yet |
| [18:39:41] | knightr: | [R], yep outside... He went there equpped with his sleeping bag, his knife and fire... (I am not fully sure what he intended to do with the last two items though... :) ) |
| [18:39:58] | [R]: | sounds scary |
| [18:40:32] | wagnerrp: | sphery: you know anything about myth_system? |
| [18:40:39] | sphery: | very little--especially now |
| [18:41:50] | wagnerrp: | hmm... im going to need to make some changes to it, to make the jobqueue work |
| [18:42:15] | wagnerrp: | im just wondering why we thread off a reaper, and not make the whole thing some threaded class |
| [18:44:49] | wagnerrp: | i mean theres a half dozen individual functions, and then a reaper class |
| [18:45:17] | wagnerrp: | why arent those functions included in the class, and then you just have an external process object to manage |
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| [18:52:27] | dustybin: | anybody know what the ffmpeg command is to rebuild a seek table on a vob file? |
| [18:55:13] | wagnerrp: | you cant rebuild it, you have to remux it |
| [18:56:17] | dustybin: | wagnerrp: does that mean it will lose quality? |
| [18:56:39] | dustybin: | wagnerrp: ive used vobcopy to create 1 large vob file |
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| [19:15:39] | agoodm: | well ive managed to copy the database over and keep my recordings with a fair bit of hacking |
| [19:15:47] | agoodm: | worth it to avoid reinputting 300 chan numbers tho |
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| [19:25:21] | darkfrog: | Hey guys, I'm runing Ubuntu with the Hauppauge HD PVR and it's been running fine for the past several months but I recently (within the past couple of weeks) updated Ubuntu and now it's no longer recording sound. I can watch existing recordings from before the upgrade and they have sound, but everything new has no sound. Not sure exactly what do to resolve this... does anyone know why or how to fix this? |
| [19:34:52] | [R]: | how the hell is pee wee's big adventure a valid suggestin when searching for beetlejuice? |
| [19:34:55] | ** [R] smacks tmdb ** | |
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| [19:42:16] | Elshar: | Both are awful 80's movies? :P |
| [19:44:25] | [R]: | lol |
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| [19:44:44] | knightr: | if it had been with a pr0n movies I would have understood considering Paul Reubens problems with the justice system.. |
| [19:45:13] | [R]: | lol |
| [19:45:34] | knightr: | re: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Reubens |
| [19:46:27] | [R]: | his 2002 mugshot is scary |
| [19:46:53] | [R]: | than again that pic in the 2004–2008 section... he looks liek a chomo with that mustache |
| [19:47:11] | knightr: | ah, I see they are related... look at the last part where they talk about Jeffrey Jones... |
| [19:47:29] | knightr: | Jeffrey Jones was in Beetlejuice... re: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Jones |
| [19:48:07] | [R]: | haha |
| [19:49:25] | wagnerrp: | now we know why he was always grinning and going after ferris |
| [19:50:57] | knightr: | :) |
| [19:53:26] | wagnerrp: | at what point does a gasoline motor with direct injection simply become a diesel motor? |
| [19:53:51] | [R]: | when it requires diesel gasoline? |
| [19:54:12] | wagnerrp: | a diesel engine will run on gasoline just fine |
| [19:54:31] | wagnerrp: | a gasoline engine wont run on diesel, since it doesnt have the compression ratio |
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| [19:56:12] | wagnerrp: | my point is... a diesel engine prevents knock by not injecting the fuel until the ignition point |
| [19:56:26] | wagnerrp: | at which point it spontaneously combusts |
| [19:56:51] | [R]: | engines are above my head |
| [19:56:56] | [R]: | just like electronics |
| [19:56:59] | [R]: | and math |
| [19:57:07] | wagnerrp: | if youre making a gasoline motor that injects fuel directly into the cylinder, instead of mixing it in the throttle body... whats the difference |
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| [20:05:26] | Elshar: | Seems to be compression ratio? :) |
| [20:06:23] | wagnerrp: | yeah, reduced compression ratio means reduced efficiency, higher rpm, higher peak power, and the need for an ignition source |
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| [20:18:12] | dustybin: | wagnerrp: your a clever sod |
| [20:18:38] | sid3windr: | his a clever sod! |
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| [20:19:29] | wagnerrp: | ? |
| [20:20:46] | sphery: | wagnerrp: might want to mention to danielk in #mythtv that's the VNC implies Xshm |
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| [20:32:23] | dustybin: | ffmpeg -i gran\ torino.vob -vcodec copy -acodec copy torino2.vob <-- is that the correct way to remux ? |
| [20:35:06] | darkdrgn2k3: | is there a way to play a simple test sound out of hdmi:CARD=NVidia via command line? |
| [20:37:09] | Elshar: | Hrm, were you talking about the Mazda 2? |
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| [20:48:12] | AndyCap: | darkdrgn2k3: aplay? |
| [20:48:19] | dustybin: | think im gonna stick 23.1 and wait for 24 instead |
| [20:48:38] | dustybin: | *23.0 |
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| [20:49:39] | darkdrgn2k3: | AndyCap: yes but how? |
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| [21:05:45] | AndyCap: | darkdrgn2k3: well, what I did was put pcm.!default hdmi:Intel in /etc/asound.conf and just use ALSA:default in myth. |
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| [21:16:52] | gilesw: | heya mythers |
| [21:17:28] | gilesw: | really happy with my mythtv install but i'm trying to clear out a lot of the cruft channel wise |
| [21:18:04] | gilesw: | is there a list of all the gaming, religious,shop channels? |
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| [21:22:35] | sphery: | gilesw: That would be very much provider specific. I suggest looking on your provider's website. |
| [21:23:38] | sphery: | Though someone in the UK may be able to help more than me--maybe a direct link or something. |
| [21:26:31] | gilesw: | heya sphery I found something to make a start with actually |
| [21:26:33] | gilesw: | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=497488&page=2 |
| [21:27:29] | gilesw: | they've done most of the hard work, needs a bit of updating but it's mostly there, I'll just get rid of some of the ones they've added too. |
| [21:28:33] | gilesw: | after I've done that then I'm pretty happy with the install |
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| [21:28:51] | gilesw: | the only thing remaining is doing transcoding to mp3 of radio recordings |
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| [21:29:31] | gilesw: | can anyone point me to a guide on how to do that at all? |
| [21:30:40] | typhoon: | Hi all. Possible stupid question. I have a DVB-T and a DVB-S card. unfortunately the transmissions start times are up to 5 minutes apart. Without recording 5 minutes of chaff on the beginning of all my sat recordings (and missing the last 5 mins of the program) is there a way of adjusting this? |
| [21:31:21] | [R]: | typhoon: there is an xmltv offset... it might only be in hours... but you could use 2 datasources and just adjust the one |
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| [21:32:54] | typhoon: | [R] could you explain the 2 datasources? |
| [21:33:17] | typhoon: | [R] thanks for the reply btw :) |
| [21:33:53] | [R]: | mythtv requires a "video source" for each grabber |
| [21:33:54] | [R]: | just maek 2 |
| [21:34:15] | [R]: | for each lineup* |
| [21:37:25] | typhoon: | [R] I have 2 video sources. One for each card/DVB type. I use the OTA for the tv guide (I'm in the UK). I'm looking in the guide but it seems the offset is just for time zone correction |
| [21:37:52] | [R]: | oh... you get eit |
| [21:38:13] | [R]: | you could manually modify the database... |
| [21:38:14] | [R]: | :) |
| [21:38:47] | typhoon: | :D lol yeah I could do that |
| [21:40:20] | typhoon: | thinks......yeah I really could...hmm I could take a look at the mythfilldatabase script and mod it. |
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| [21:41:00] | [R]: | its not a script |
| [21:41:01] | [R]: | its a program |
| [21:41:30] | [R]: | it would be immensly easier to just do a few sql statements that add the offset |
| [21:41:38] | kormoc: | EIT is not processed by mythfilldatabase |
| [21:41:48] | [R]: | that too |
| [21:41:49] | [R]: | lol |
| [21:42:29] | typhoon: | i could just knock up a dirty perl script and cron it |
| [21:42:32] | ** [R] had a brainfart ** | |
| [21:42:53] | [R]: | you could probably get it done with 1 sql statement |
| [21:42:54] | kormoc: | typhoon, then each time it runs all your shows will move another 5 minutes into the future |
| [21:43:19] | kormoc: | as EIT will update some, but not necessarily all of them every time |
| [21:43:39] | [R]: | he could add a column to the table |
| [21:43:41] | kormoc: | are you sure your clock is set right on the computer? Would it be easier to match your pc clock to the source clock? |
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| [21:43:57] | kormoc: | [R], doesn't help if we just update the start/end times |
| [21:43:58] | typhoon: | my pc clock is perfectly matched to the dvb-t time |
| [21:44:16] | typhoon: | unfortunately dvb-s has a "different" time |
| [21:44:54] | [R]: | kormoc: it would be "original start time"... blank means it hasnt been processed... not blank means the script already adjusted it. so if they match, then mythtv set it back, if they mismathc, myth hasnt changed it |
| [21:45:21] | kormoc: | [R], and then real schedule changes won't get processed correctly |
| [21:45:49] | kormoc: | typhoon, my recommendation would be to ask on the mailing list, others have to have delt with this in the past |
| [21:45:56] | [R]: | kormoc: if they mismatch by 5 minjutes... than myth hasn't changed it |
| [21:46:06] | [R]: | :P |
| [21:46:33] | kormoc: | [R], You start recording a show, EIT update, myth stops recording the show, script updates start time, myth ignores it as it has already started in the past |
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| [21:46:59] | kormoc: | plenty of failures for fighting over start/end times with myth |
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| [21:47:30] | [R]: | yeah |
| [21:47:39] | [R]: | just hack up the eit code than |
| [21:47:46] | typhoon: | is there a way i can hijack the EIT schedule? it runs when myth is idle for 60 seconds |
| [21:48:00] | [R]: | typhoon: i just said... hack the code |
| [21:48:16] | kormoc: | it also gets it while recording if it happens to come across it in the stream |
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| [21:48:47] | typhoon: | [R] thats not a bad idea. Do you know a good place to start? |
| [21:48:53] | [R]: | the code |
| [21:49:06] | kormoc: | I still say asking the folks who have this working already would be a much better option... |
| [21:50:31] | typhoon: | I think I'll ask first before hacking the code and recompiling, seems overkill for a small problem |
| [21:50:48] | typhoon: | thanks kormoc, [R] |
| [21:51:31] | [R]: | kormoc: is there no global start time per tuner or just systemwide? |
| [21:52:02] | kormoc: | I don't know, but given how many other folks have similar setups, someone would know |
| [21:53:14] | typhoon: | I'm just trying to avoid wasting huge amounts of disk by extending my recordings by 7 mins..I can do it that way, but then I need to spend time trimming and things |
| [21:54:26] | justinh: | "so, what key do i use to stop recording on myth then?" LOL. <smack> |
| [21:54:55] | [R]: | justinh: ? |
| [21:55:19] | justinh: | just somebody I conversed with on the twitter today |
| [21:55:53] | typhoon: | justinh: ah I thought you were some kind of ninja troll :) |
| [21:56:17] | [R]: | justinh: whats the past tense of tweet? |
| [21:56:31] | justinh: | they were moaning that mythtv has no record button. I said course it has – turns out they were referring to some sort of onscreen button :-\ |
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| [21:56:55] | [R]: | onscreen button? huh? |
| [21:56:56] | justinh: | penantically pointed out that the R KEY is not a button |
| [21:57:07] | justinh: | it's a KEY. grrr |
| [21:57:13] | [R]: | how do you push an onscreen button? |
| [21:57:27] | justinh: | push/click/whatever |
| [21:58:19] | typhoon: | isnt there an OSD option for that somewhere? im sure I've seen it |
| [21:58:35] | justinh: | don't reckon there is, unless there are onscreen controls in 0.24-rc1 |
| [21:58:49] | justinh: | not taken 0.24 for a spin yet |
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| [21:59:48] | typhoon: | ive cheated...I use ganyremote and I can control myth via bluetooth :) |
| [21:59:55] | typhoon: | havent tried 0.24 either |
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| [22:08:09] | justinh: | anyway so I said she should ask for your money back.. she said that isn't the point.. got quite protracted. |
| [22:08:16] | justinh: | er.. her money back lol. |
| [22:08:32] | [R]: | lol |
| [22:08:42] | ** [R] is hopelessly lost ** | |
| [22:09:46] | justinh: | talking about mythtv on twitter, remember.. disappointed user... seemed to think that projects are all about trying to get the most users onboard, yada yada |
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| [22:11:24] | [R]: | yada yada yada.... haha |
| [22:11:39] | [R]: | i just watched that seinfeld episode like yesterday |
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| [22:39:23] | wagnerrp: | justinh: heh... mike is on twitter still sending things to the wrong group |
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| [23:00:47] | TLE: | good evening |
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| [23:02:48] | TLE: | I was wondering about the MythTV system events, is there a resource describing exactly what triggers the different events? Some of them are of cours self explanatory, but when is "Recording pending" and "Scheduler ran" triggered? |
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| [23:03:29] | [R]: | well schedular ran is ran well... when the scheduler ran |
| [23:03:37] | iamlindoro: | There is not a document describing all of them, but recording pending occurs shortly before a recording starts when myth does its "pre-flight check" |
| [23:03:57] | iamlindoro: | and as [R] says, the scheduler runs when the scheduler runs-- it can happen all the time, under many different circumstances |
| [23:04:17] | iamlindoro: | (new guide data, someone ran mythbackend --resched, periodically runs anyway, someone changed or added a recording, etc) |
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| [23:05:03] | iamlindoro: | as a basic rule of thumb, though, the scheduler will run any time the conditions that lead to recordings change |
| [23:05:31] | TLE: | ahh cool, thats exactly what I need, I need to run a script every time there is a change in the recording schedule, awesome |
| [23:05:48] | TLE: | [R], iamlindoro: thanks |
| [23:05:50] | iamlindoro: | np |
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| [23:48:18] | lowone: | neat.. upgrade from .21 + vdpau manually compiled; stuffs to .23.1 from debmultimedia seems to have gone flawlessly!! |
| [23:50:08] | lowone: | a question though... in .21+vdpau occationally a hd recording would crash mythfrontend on playback, i could hammer on the fastforward button and sometimes it would work and play.. in .23.1 i get the text "please wait...." |
| [23:50:30] | lowone: | any ideas on what causes this? is it looking for a key frame or something to start play from? |
| [23:50:52] | lowone: | i just updated my backend too but it hasnt recorded anything yet so dunno if that will magicly fix things |
| [23:51:18] | [R]: | the newer vdpau drivers and the newer vdpau spport in mythfrontend usually is fine about slightly corrupt recordings |
| [23:51:25] | [R]: | what driver were you using? |
| [23:51:30] | wagnerrp: | what processor? |
| [23:52:17] | lowone: | the frontend is a zotec atom n270 + nvidia 9100m |
| [23:52:59] | wagnerrp: | so just dropping back to standard+opengl is out of the question |
| [23:56:26] | lowone: | driver is nvidia's propriatary ontop of a .35 kernel all built lastnight while i was sleeping;; |
| [23:56:56] | lowone: | oh .36 |
| [23:58:01] | lowone: | i could try.. but back with .21 it would play back hd content but would become choppy for a few seconds every 10ish minutes |
| [23:58:13] | lowone: | (standard+opengl) |
| [23:58:39] | wagnerrp: | yeah, an Atom really isnt powerful enough to handle any HD content on its own |
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