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| [02:14:04] | benklop: | i've recently upgraded to .23.1 from .23 and I am not getting VERY high cpu usage from mythfrontend when at an idle |
| [02:14:14] | benklop: | eg at menus and such |
| [02:14:29] | benklop: | usually after skipping forward or back in a show |
| [02:14:40] | benklop: | it starts preezing up every second or so, and then if I pause or go to a menu or anything the mythfrontend process uses as much CPU as is available |
| [02:14:51] | benklop: | ts a single core box, so if there is 1 thread with an issue I guess I could imagine this not being noticed on newer machines |
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| [02:21:51] | benklop: | any ideas? i'm really stumped |
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| [03:02:27] | benklop: | turns out if I remove mythnetvision it all works fine |
| [03:03:18] | benklop: | with -v all logging I noticed that about the time of each skip, mythnetvision appeared to be doing some kind of updating |
| [03:03:31] | benklop: | loading info about dailymotion into the database |
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| [03:43:30] | skybandit: | evening all |
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| [03:44:26] | skybandit: | does myth tv work with windows? or is it still being developed? |
| [03:45:09] | wagnerrp: | frontend only |
| [03:45:35] | wagnerrp: | use as a backend is planned, but not currently in development |
| [03:46:04] | skybandit: | ty |
| [03:46:21] | skybandit: | im going to have to read up this for sure |
| [03:46:43] | skybandit: | i just came across it and had to check it out |
| [03:47:19] | wagnerrp: | http://mythtv.org/wiki/Executive_Overview |
| [03:48:12] | skybandit: | im a noob so if you dont mind, could you explain in a nutshell the advantages or differences of front-end over back-end? |
| [03:48:31] | wagnerrp: | see the above link |
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| [03:49:39] | wagnerrp: | there is no advantage or disadvantage of one over the other, they serve entirely different purposes |
| [03:51:03] | skybandit: | by briefly reading your link i see im going to have to read up on this a bit |
| [03:51:11] | skybandit: | do you have any forums? |
| [03:51:26] | wagnerrp: | none official, we have mailing lists |
| [03:51:35] | wagnerrp: | ever used windows media center? |
| [03:52:00] | skybandit: | not sure, is that the same as windows media player? |
| [03:52:11] | wagnerrp: | no |
| [03:52:24] | wagnerrp: | ever seen the ads about direct tv's new multi-room dvrs? |
| [03:52:27] | skybandit: | i guess i havent then |
| [03:52:42] | skybandit: | im in canada so i dont see dtv ads |
| [03:53:03] | wagnerrp: | anyway, the backend does the recording, the frontend does the playback |
| [03:53:06] | skybandit: | but i understand the concept of duel tuners, etc |
| [03:53:23] | wagnerrp: | two separate programs, can be run on the same machine, or different machines |
| [03:53:42] | wagnerrp: | this lets you run multiple frontends off the same tuners and disk space |
| [03:53:50] | wagnerrp: | rather than having to record the same things in every room |
| [03:54:05] | wagnerrp: | also lets you have one giant box in the closet/basement/attic/crawlspace |
| [03:54:13] | skybandit: | this has me intrigued |
| [03:54:13] | wagnerrp: | that holds all youre hard drives and tuner cards |
| [03:54:25] | wagnerrp: | and have comparatively small boxes at each tv |
| [03:55:19] | wagnerrp: | its basically the same thing as those DTV systems, as media center extenders, as sagetv extenders, .... |
| [03:55:36] | skybandit: | oh my, i got lots of reading to do...lol |
| [03:57:07] | skybandit: | wish you guys had a forum where i could read up on set-up etc, and ask any questions as I go |
| [03:57:37] | wagnerrp: | we have the wiki and the official documentation to read through |
| [03:57:45] | wagnerrp: | and there is the mailing list, and its archives |
| [03:58:15] | wagnerrp: | beyond that, there are a handful of 3rd party forums dedicated to mythtv |
| [03:59:12] | skybandit: | do you have a link to any of these 3rd party forums? |
| [03:59:36] | wagnerrp: | there is mythtvtalk.com, and there is a mythbuntu section on the ubuntu forums |
| [04:00:01] | wagnerrp: | i would really stay away from there as a new user, and the mailing list for that matter |
| [04:00:22] | wagnerrp: | all youre going to find is a bunch of wrong information by people who dont know what theyre doing |
| [04:00:35] | skybandit: | as a noob what do you recommend? |
| [04:00:58] | wagnerrp: | the wiki has a fair bit of wrong or outdated information on its own, but were trying to correct that for the frequented pages |
| [04:01:28] | wagnerrp: | and this channel is going to be primarily devs, and a few long time users |
| [04:02:40] | skybandit: | i need something that i can follow along at a pace to allow me to gather all i need and ask questions as I go |
| [04:03:14] | wagnerrp: | read through the official docs and the wiki |
| [04:03:21] | wagnerrp: | pop in here for questions as you need |
| [04:03:44] | skybandit: | ill do my reading at the links you have provided, and when i get really stuck I will come back here and peaster you ;) |
| [04:03:45] | wagnerrp: | basic questions a 'noob' is going to ask are likely going to be answered in here in short order |
| [04:04:06] | skybandit: | peaster = pester |
| [04:04:29] | skybandit: | ill do my research before i come here to bug...promise |
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| [04:05:33] | wagnerrp: | something of note that a lot of users seem to overlook |
| [04:05:39] | wagnerrp: | we dont write drivers |
| [04:05:56] | wagnerrp: | aside from a few specific devices, we dont support individual tuner cards |
| [04:06:03] | wagnerrp: | its just like windows, we just support the API |
| [04:06:09] | wagnerrp: | linuxtv.org handles all the tuner support |
| [04:06:18] | skybandit: | k |
| [04:06:29] | skybandit: | ill do my homework |
| [04:06:31] | stoth: | yay! |
| [04:07:07] | wagnerrp: | stoth: yeah, were learning to push them off on you as early as possible |
| [04:07:17] | stoth: | lol |
| [04:07:20] | skybandit: | thanks for your help, im gonna get to reading, hopefully all goes well |
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| [04:24:32] | Crankygeek01: | Good Evening, I need some serious help....I have installed Mythbuntu, I have a HD PVR (Hauppauge). I am stuck with the mythtv-setup options...I think I have it configured correctly, but I can't get it to download any program guide.....I did test the hd pvr box, and it seems to be working, yet I can't watch TV, even though when I ran a cat command on it, it did record a minute or so before I stopped it.... |
| [04:25:13] | wagnerrp: | Crankygeek01: you have set up a schedules direct account? |
| [04:25:19] | Crankygeek01: | Any help would be greatly appreciated.... |
| [04:25:49] | Crankygeek01: | No, I was able to chose Directv as the channel listings |
| [04:26:21] | wagnerrp: | direct tv does not provide channel listings in any manner we can use |
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| [04:27:30] | Crankygeek01: | ok, I will create an account on schedulesdirect |
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| [04:29:41] | wagnerrp: | directtv provides listings broadcast through their proprietary, encrypted protocol |
| [04:29:49] | wagnerrp: | such that only their specific boxes can use it |
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| [04:35:11] | Crankygeek01: | OK, I setup the SD account |
| [04:35:31] | wagnerrp: | now give mythtv your credentials, and tell it to pull your lineup |
| [04:35:49] | wagnerrp: | you may want to prune your SD lineup on their page before doing so |
| [04:36:25] | Crankygeek01: | ok, I had clicked on SCAN FOR CHANNELS, and now it's frozen, how can I kill it |
| [04:36:40] | wagnerrp: | just kill mythtv-setup |
| [04:36:45] | Crankygeek01: | ok, cool |
| [04:42:52] | Crankygeek01: | It's running Mythfilldatabase now |
| [04:43:06] | ** wagnerrp just stabbed himself with an exacto-knife ** | |
| [04:43:20] | Crankygeek01: | Ohh...be careful |
| [04:43:52] | Crankygeek01: | brb |
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| [04:50:06] | Crankygeek01: | Wow, it takes a while to write this database for the 1st time....it's still going |
| [04:50:30] | wagnerrp: | ive got an articulating lamp on my desk that broke, plastic pins holding it together snapped |
| [04:51:00] | wagnerrp: | so i drilled it out, replaced it with bolts, and all fixed... i had to remove some nubs used to hold the springs |
| [04:51:12] | Crankygeek01: | Wow |
| [04:51:12] | wagnerrp: | and the only thing available was an exacto knive |
| [04:51:25] | Crankygeek01: | lol |
| [04:51:31] | wagnerrp: | i kept thinking 'gee, this is a bad idea, im going to end up stabbing myself' |
| [04:51:33] | wagnerrp: | sure enough... |
| [04:51:39] | Crankygeek01: | Did you cut yourself badly? |
| [04:51:59] | wagnerrp: | no, old and dull, so it just bounced off |
| [04:52:11] | Crankygeek01: | ahh, that's good |
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| [04:52:46] | Crankygeek01: | Will this mythfilldatabase stop when it's done? |
| [04:53:00] | wagnerrp: | yeah... how many channels do you have? |
| [04:53:28] | Crankygeek01: | Directv has 1000 channels in their lineup |
| [04:54:05] | wagnerrp: | yeah... you may want to find something else to do for the next half hour or better |
| [04:55:21] | Crankygeek01: | Hopefully you will still be around when this is done :) |
| [04:57:37] | Crankygeek01: | Do you know if there is a way to set this up to use the directv remote, or am I better off using the cheap remote that came with the HD PVR? |
| [04:58:12] | wagnerrp: | i dont know if the remote that came with the HDPVR accepts generic inputs |
| [04:58:33] | wagnerrp: | if you have the receiver working, you can run 'mode2', and start pressing buttons |
| [04:58:51] | wagnerrp: | if it responds to both, you can reprogram it however you desire |
| [04:59:06] | wagnerrp: | iif it only responds to the hauppauge remote, then youre stuck with it |
| [04:59:43] | Crankygeek01: | ok, not sure what you mean, but the database is done |
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| [05:00:20] | Crankygeek01: | should I try seeing if the tv works now, or is there other steps I need to do 1st? |
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| [05:01:40] | wagnerrp: | it should be working |
| [05:02:27] | Crankygeek01: | Nope...I hit watch TV and it says please wait then just drops back to the menu |
| [05:04:51] | wagnerrp: | check your backend logs |
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| [05:07:26] | Crankygeek01: | Sorry, where do I find the log file? |
| [05:08:51] | wagnerrp: | where ever you told it to log |
| [05:09:03] | wagnerrp: | if youre using some distro's packages, thats often to /var/log or /var/log/mythtv |
| [05:16:33] | Crankygeek01: | found it |
| [05:18:24] | Crankygeek01: | Channel(/dev/video0)::Tune(): Error -1 while setting frequency (v2): Invalid argument |
| [05:25:27] | Crankygeek01: | Do you think you could look at this log if I pastebin it? not really sure what it's telling me except that it's broken... |
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| [05:28:47] | Crankygeek01: | http://mythtv.pastebin.com/3xFvwRK4 |
| [05:31:36] | wagnerrp: | you set this up as an HDPVR right? |
| [05:31:46] | wagnerrp: | the card type |
| [05:39:34] | Crankygeek01: | Yes |
| [05:41:00] | wagnerrp: | what did you tell it to use as a channel changer? |
| [05:42:11] | Crankygeek01: | umm, let me check |
| [05:44:55] | Crankygeek01: | THe external channel change command? |
| [05:45:04] | Crankygeek01: | is that what you are looking for? |
| [05:47:03] | wagnerrp: | yes |
| [05:47:12] | wagnerrp: | since that is not a tuner, you need an external channel changer |
| [05:47:27] | wagnerrp: | it sounds like that is failing, and causing the recordingg to abort |
| [05:47:54] | Crankygeek01: | That line is blank |
| [05:48:19] | wagnerrp: | then thats why its failing |
| [05:48:27] | wagnerrp: | since you dont have an external channel changer set up yet |
| [05:48:35] | wagnerrp: | just put '/bin/true' in there |
| [05:48:46] | wagnerrp: | you can fix that later once you have recording working |
| [05:48:51] | Crankygeek01: | no quotes? |
| [05:49:26] | wagnerrp: | no |
| [05:49:42] | Crankygeek01: | ok, let me try it again |
| [05:51:29] | Crankygeek01: | ok, I get video now, but no sound |
| [05:51:45] | Crankygeek01: | I think I have this hooked up wrong........ |
| [05:52:39] | Crankygeek01: | I should I have the inout coming from the STB into the pvr, then the output on the pvr going to the TV...? |
| [05:53:05] | Crankygeek01: | I should I have the input*** coming from the STB into the pvr, then the output on the pvr going to the TV...? |
| [05:53:23] | wagnerrp: | the 'outputs' on that box are merely passthrough |
| [05:54:01] | Crankygeek01: | ok, so the actual video is coming through the monitor cable? |
| [05:54:48] | wagnerrp: | the video is run through your video card, if thats what youre asking |
| [05:54:53] | Crankygeek01: | yes |
| [05:55:04] | Crankygeek01: | better way of saying it |
| [05:56:03] | Crankygeek01: | well, how do I get the sound up to the TV? |
| [05:56:33] | Crankygeek01: | I am using a regular monitor cable from the video card to the vga inout on the TV |
| [05:56:53] | wagnerrp: | why not DVI/HDMI? |
| [05:57:00] | wagnerrp: | and you use the outputs on your sound card |
| [05:57:09] | wagnerrp: | unless you have a video card that supports HDMI audio |
| [05:57:53] | Crankygeek01: | I am using a nvidia 7800 series, just 2 dvi outputs |
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| [05:58:43] | wagnerrp: | so use DVI, and separate audio from your sound card |
| [05:58:44] | Crankygeek01: | and the back of the TV only has a standard monitor jack on the back |
| [05:59:09] | wagnerrp: | funky... |
| [05:59:13] | wagnerrp: | old HDTV? |
| [05:59:26] | wagnerrp: | like, pre-2005? |
| [05:59:27] | Crankygeek01: | so I will need to purchase a DVI to HDMI cable? |
| [05:59:38] | wagnerrp: | does your tv have HDMI? |
| [05:59:49] | Crankygeek01: | Sony XBR |
| [05:59:52] | Crankygeek01: | yes |
| [06:00:11] | wagnerrp: | then yes, you can pick up DVI->HDMI cables for ~$5 online |
| [06:00:11] | Crankygeek01: | but the vid card doesn't have an hdmi output |
| [06:00:38] | Crankygeek01: | let me see what I have for sound inputs |
| [06:03:27] | Crankygeek01: | I am thinking I should probably invest in a better video card |
| [06:04:06] | Crankygeek01: | The TV signal was very skippy, I think the card is probably causing that |
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| [06:05:03] | Crankygeek01: | any recommendations on a decent card with HDMI and audio built in? |
| [06:06:14] | wagnerrp: | gt210 or 220 |
| [06:07:35] | Crankygeek01: | Ahh, the video is smooth now, I had to change the resolution on the DTV box |
| [06:07:58] | wagnerrp: | eh? |
| [06:09:04] | Crankygeek01: | strange, the box is always set to 1080i, but when I switched it to 480p, the jumping stopped |
| [06:09:25] | wagnerrp: | what is your processor? |
| [06:09:48] | Crankygeek01: | AMD Athlon 64x2 3800+ |
| [06:10:03] | wagnerrp: | 2.2GHz? |
| [06:10:19] | Crankygeek01: | 2.3 I think |
| [06:10:29] | wagnerrp: | that chip is going to peak out at... maybe 8–9Mbps |
| [06:10:40] | wagnerrp: | peak bitrate on the HDPVR is 13.5Mbps |
| [06:10:49] | wagnerrp: | and it scales based off the resolution of the source |
| [06:10:58] | wagnerrp: | higher the resolution of the source, higher the bitrate of the content |
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| [06:12:06] | Crankygeek01: | Wow, so the idea of the cheap DVR is now costing me a lot more than I had hoped :( |
| [06:12:20] | wagnerrp: | who ever said mythtv was a cheap dvr? |
| [06:12:35] | Crankygeek01: | What kind of CPU should I be looking at? |
| [06:14:09] | wagnerrp: | for software decoding? you want a modern architecture (athlon II, phenom II, core 2, core i3/5/7) at 2.5GHz or better |
| [06:14:19] | wagnerrp: | the athlons, maybe 2.7GHz or better |
| [06:17:39] | Crankygeek01: | ok, well I guess I am going computer shopping tomorrow |
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| [06:26:44] | Crankygeek01: | Thanks for your help, I will pick up a new machine tomorrow.....4 or 8 gig of ram? |
| [06:28:18] | wagnerrp: | no real need for more than 2 |
| [06:28:49] | wagnerrp: | also note that if you get a new nvidia graphics card, you can use VDPAU to offload the content |
| [06:29:07] | wagnerrp: | the recordings output by the HDPVR are one of the supported formats |
| [06:30:05] | Crankygeek01: | what is vdpau? |
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| [06:42:19] | wagnerrp: | nvidia's hardware acceleration API |
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| [08:28:39] | ugliefrog: | Ive been allover trying to solve this issue....I cant hear sound during live tv.......ive also noticed it in vlc when using pvr mode...I dont know how to go about troubleshooting the problem |
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| [09:12:14] | justinh: | ugliefrog: what sort of tuner? |
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| [09:14:59] | ugliefrog: | justinh, hapugee 1600 |
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| [09:18:40] | ugliefrog: | justinh, WinTV-HVR-1600 |
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| [11:06:24] | justinh: | ugliefrog: seems like you're trying the analogue section of the card am I right? |
| [11:07:14] | justinh: | oh nevermind. that's an mpeg2 encoding card so you should be getting audio and video at the same time – both captured on the same card |
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| [11:23:23] | ugliefrog: | justinh yes the analog |
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| [12:23:52] | Saviq: | hi all, I have used my dvb-s2 myth setup for some time now and I've now switched to using a multiswitch instead of a diseqc switch |
| [12:25:03] | Saviq: | and suddenly myth won't switch to the proper high/lo band, h/v polarity... |
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| [12:25:32] | Saviq: | shouldn't a diseqc switch == multiswitch in terms of band control? |
| [12:26:24] | Saviq: | I've tried using different settings in the card diseqc menu, to no avail... myth will only lock to high band horizontal (or vertical, can't remember now) |
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| [12:42:49] | Saviq: | actually, it seems that it won't switch to low band, polarization is fine on high band |
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| [16:11:15] | wagnerrp: | 'if i remove the warning that mythweb cannot find the backend, it silently fails!' |
| [16:13:35] | wagnerrp: | what is wrong with people... |
| [16:14:53] | dewman: | ' to start press any key, wheres the any key?' |
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| [16:17:59] | awalls: | !seen anykey |
| [16:17:59] | MythLogBot: | anykey was last seen 1321 days 5 hours 16 minutes 20 seconds ago |
| [16:18:51] | awalls: | !seen anykey_ |
| [16:18:51] | MythLogBot: | anykey_ is here and has been idle for 2 hours 44 minutes 4 seconds |
| [16:19:38] | ** wagnerrp presses anykey_ ** | |
| [16:19:52] | dewman: | hahaha.. |
| [16:20:15] | ** awalls wonders if interrogating anykey_ for the answer will work ** | |
| [16:24:04] | wagnerrp: | but seriously... mythweb errors, saying its misconfigured |
| [16:24:17] | wagnerrp: | you remove said error... you really expect its going to magically work? |
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| [16:24:42] | denniss: | hey, i am trying to set backspace as the global ESCAPE Button, and it works everywhere exept of livetv, browser and youtube |
| [16:24:50] | wagnerrp: | and feel sufficiently strongly about your solution, that you post it on trac? |
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| [16:25:09] | ** awalls humms "I Believe in Magic" to himself ** | |
| [16:26:36] | denniss: | stuartm: removed it from clearosd and still does not work |
| [16:32:15] | skd5aner: | hmmmm, new mobo and the nic won't come up in the OS |
| [16:32:27] | skd5aner: | stupid realtek 8111D |
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| [16:32:39] | wagnerrp: | watch out for the sharks |
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| [16:46:05] | sphery: | someone must be trying to dual-boot BSD? |
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| [16:51:50] | skd5aner: | figured it out... |
| [16:52:12] | cromag: | what does "use over the air egp" mean ? |
| [16:52:25] | cromag: | or. |
| [16:52:35] | skd5aner: | same OS drive as old mobo, created a new udev rule for the new nic, as eth2 |
| [16:52:56] | skd5aner: | apparently, enough of the networking configs assume it's going to be eth0 |
| [16:53:00] | skd5aner: | so, I changed the udev rule |
| [16:53:04] | skd5aner: | worked after a reboot |
| [16:53:14] | cromag: | my real question might be; will that setting refuse my xmltv ? |
| [16:54:40] | wagnerrp: | cromag: if you are already using xmltv, or otherwise live in north america, you dont want to bother with EIT data |
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| [16:54:58] | cromag: | im trying to get EPG to work, im in europe |
| [16:55:37] | cromag: | i bought a subscription to a bunch of channels as i was not able to get the EPG via the dvb-c transmissions for some reason |
| [16:55:49] | sphery: | cromag: can't mix EIT and xmltv on the same channel |
| [16:55:49] | cromag: | "via the cable" if that sounds better. |
| [16:55:51] | sphery: | either or |
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| [16:56:19] | cromag: | what is EIT ? |
| [16:56:43] | cromag: | EPG in other countries ? |
| [16:56:58] | wagnerrp: | EIT is the broadcast guide data |
| [16:57:05] | cromag: | oh. |
| [16:57:08] | wagnerrp: | EPG is just the general concept of a program guide |
| [16:57:12] | cromag: | ok. |
| [16:57:30] | cromag: | i would rather have the Broadcasted data i think. |
| [16:57:53] | cromag: | thanks |
| [16:57:59] | cromag: | that was pretty essential to know :=) |
| [17:00:19] | sphery: | wagnerrp: heh, "At work we put a number of TVs into a customer as public displays – 42" Samsungs IIRC." That must be one very big person. |
| [17:00:40] | cromag: | heh |
| [17:00:43] | sphery: | that from Re: [mythtv-users] VGA verses HDMI |
| [17:04:40] | skd5aner: | sphery: remember how I said I forgot what I was going to tell you and then remembered? |
| [17:04:44] | skd5aner: | yea... it was actually something else... aha |
| [17:04:48] | skd5aner: | haha |
| [17:05:15] | sphery: | heh |
| [17:05:28] | sphery: | so you've re-remembered |
| [17:05:31] | skd5aner: | yea |
| [17:05:39] | sphery: | I guess before you dismembered? |
| [17:05:50] | skd5aner: | heh, I guess if you're gone for a few days thats when I actually need to tell you things |
| [17:05:58] | skd5aner: | it's when you're around that there's nothing to discuss ;) |
| [17:06:02] | sphery: | heh, I'll keep that in mind :) |
| [17:06:21] | skd5aner: | anyway – I knew you were working on the --dd-grab-all stuff |
| [17:06:39] | skd5aner: | and that it's now the recommended approach to updating all the data, and not to use --refresh-all, correct? |
| [17:07:31] | sphery: | wagnerrp / iamlindoro : BTW, you'll appreciate this. On the plane home, we had in-seat entertainment computers. They had ads before 10K feet, including one for "Lone Star". The TV-on-demand had the premiere of Lone Star. Seems kind of dated... :) |
| [17:07:54] | sphery: | skd5aner: exactly |
| [17:08:02] | sphery: | DD users should never use --refresh-all |
| [17:08:06] | skd5aner: | you might want to reach out to Robert Eden then.... – http://forums.schedulesdirect.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=581 |
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| [17:08:39] | sphery: | ah, well he knows about it--he was actually very happy when we decided to announce it to the list |
| [17:08:39] | [R]: | speaking of dd-grab-all... since i started using it. i get "no guide data was inserted" every now and then... is something wrnog or is that expected? |
| [17:08:42] | skd5aner: | sphery: I brought that show up a few days ago, how I liked it |
| [17:08:59] | skd5aner: | sphery: I'm sure he does, but he might want to update that post since it's a sticky with thousands of views |
| [17:09:14] | sphery: | I guess maybe he's still mentioning --refresh-all because of the performance/system requirements issue with --dd-grab-all |
| [17:09:25] | sphery: | Oh, I see what you mean... |
| [17:09:28] | skd5aner: | well, actually – I think the original post is several years old |
| [17:09:32] | sphery: | that was an old post, stickied |
| [17:09:38] | skd5aner: | but, it's a sticky so people will continue to see it |
| [17:09:39] | sphery: | I'll see if I can get him to do that. |
| [17:09:47] | sphery: | thanks for noticing |
| [17:09:50] | skd5aner: | np |
| [17:10:13] | sphery: | also, with --refresh-all you'd probably also want --refresh-today |
| [17:10:46] | sphery: | for the xmltv guys out there... |
| [17:10:56] | wagnerrp: | sphery: i never watched lone star |
| [17:11:03] | skd5aner: | I got my new mobo, cpu, and RAM within 20 hours of me ordering it, I love that |
| [17:11:20] | cromag: | question: if i go to video source in -setup, choose EIT, and "try-all" press the down arrow, i dont get anywhere, but the text in the box below thinks im on the "perform EIT scan" button but there is none |
| [17:11:28] | cromag: | what todo ? :) |
| [17:11:30] | sphery: | wagnerrp: oh, I thought you had. I saw you/ iamlindoro / skd5aner talking about it and its cancellation |
| [17:11:32] | skd5aner: | wagnerrp: he was probably thinking of me, since iamlindoro and I were commiserating over it's demise |
| [17:11:39] | sphery: | typical Fox treatment |
| [17:11:55] | skd5aner: | yea... meanwhile, 22 seasons of The Simpsons :) |
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| [17:12:08] | sphery: | I didn't read much--just saw the mention and your questioning how they could cancel after an episode or 2 |
| [17:12:24] | sphery: | yeah, though I still enjoy the simpsons, I think it's time to end it |
| [17:12:38] | skd5aner: | I remember there was some show last year that got cancelled after 1 show, can't remember what it was though |
| [17:12:40] | sphery: | s/time/past time/ |
| [17:12:41] | sphery: | :) |
| [17:13:12] | skd5aner: | actually, I liked the season premier... it had Flight of the Conchords on it |
| [17:13:55] | skd5aner: | and, it was one of the (extremely few) Lisa episodes I actually didn't hate |
| [17:14:02] | skd5aner: | quite opposite actually |
| [17:14:20] | Linkeroo: | simpsons won't end, they make way too much on merchandise |
| [17:14:25] | Linkeroo: | they'll ride it as long as possible |
| [17:14:51] | ** skd5aner hasn't yet started watching the new Futurama as he wanted to rewatch the old stuff again first ** | |
| [17:15:32] | sphery: | skd5aner: same here |
| [17:15:37] | sphery: | plus, I don't get cartoon network |
| [17:15:46] | sphery: | so I have to get the dvd's for the new stuff, too |
| [17:15:51] | sphery: | (have the old stuff on dvd) |
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| [17:19:27] | Roed: | Hi, i just installed Mythbuntu with a pinnacle pctv 330e device. When i scan for channels i only get radio. I really dont know what i am doing wrong. Any help would be very appreaciated. Thanks in advance |
| [17:20:14] | wagnerrp: | mythtv doesnt do radio, do you mean youre getting audio-only digital channels? |
| [17:20:53] | Roed: | Its listing all the radio channels in the country as tv channels. |
| [17:21:15] | Roed: | But there are no tv channels |
| [17:21:23] | skd5aner: | sphery: actually, comedy central is running the new stuff (and old stuff) now |
| [17:21:37] | skd5aner: | they picked up the contract from cartoon network a year or two ago |
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| [17:21:57] | skd5aner: | no longer adult swim |
| [17:22:08] | skd5aner: | I think it's on after Colbert |
| [17:23:05] | sphery: | skd5aner: ah, interesting |
| [17:23:09] | sphery: | didn't realize it moved |
| [17:23:09] | wagnerrp: | !seen devinheitmueller |
| [17:23:09] | MythLogBot: | devinheitmueller was last seen 21 hours 56 minutes 18 seconds ago |
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| [17:23:22] | sphery: | fox isn't planning to put them on network tv, right? |
| [17:23:29] | wagnerrp: | Roed: you have manually installed the drivers listed here? http://www.kernellabs.com/blog/?p=1397 |
| [17:25:03] | Roed: | wagnerrp: no, I havent seen this site before. But the signal i can get here is only analog. |
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| [17:25:32] | wagnerrp: | then you need to get an analog tuner |
| [17:25:42] | wagnerrp: | something like a PVR-USB2 or HVR-1900 |
| [17:25:52] | skd5aner: | sphery: nope, I think they promised ~22 new episodes to comedy central |
| [17:25:55] | skd5aner: | and see where it goes |
| [17:26:12] | skd5aner: | but I think that Fox is still the production studios |
| [17:26:44] | sphery: | too bad |
| [17:26:49] | Roed: | wagnerrp: mine is a hybrid, i got buth dcb-t and analog |
| [17:26:49] | sphery: | guess I'll have to do dvd then |
| [17:26:57] | skd5aner: | man it's great you can just put a linux OS drive on a new mobo and it'll "just work(tm)" |
| [17:26:59] | Roed: | both* |
| [17:27:28] | Roed: | wagnerrp: i tested the tuner on xp, to make sure it was working and it is. |
| [17:28:02] | skd5aner: | alright, off to enjoy the day |
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| [17:30:56] | wagnerrp: | Roed: that tuner is a framegrabber, which as far as many of us in here are concerned, should not be used with mythtv |
| [17:31:05] | cromag: | i might need some guidance in how i set my system to get EIT data, the xmltv is crazy as i need to map every channel. |
| [17:31:06] | wagnerrp: | the two devices i mentioned are both mpeg encoders |
| [17:31:53] | wagnerrp: | Roed: do you have a '/dev/video0'? |
| [17:32:34] | Roed: | wagnerrp: Ok, what kind of tuner would you suggest? I need DVB-C and analog |
| [17:33:49] | wagnerrp: | you /need/ usb? |
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| [17:37:06] | Roed: | wagnerrp: i got usb now. but im making a media center, so i guess it would be best with an internal. |
| [17:38:33] | wagnerrp: | there do not seem to be any cards which do both DVB-C and hardware encoded analog in one unit |
| [17:38:49] | Roed: | hmm |
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| [17:39:31] | Roed: | Maybe i should just start with the analog tuner then |
| [17:39:31] | wagnerrp: | best bet would be one of these http://mythtv.org/wiki/Hauppauge_PVR-150 |
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| [17:39:40] | wagnerrp: | and soemthing from this list http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/DVB-C_PCI_Cards |
| [17:40:23] | wagnerrp: | if you wish to use encrypted DVB-C, make sure to get one that lists 'common interface' |
| [17:40:40] | Roed: | ok? |
| [17:41:13] | wagnerrp: | common interface (CI) is a slot that takes a conditional access module, for accessing encrypted (pay) channels |
| [17:41:49] | Roed: | ahh, i know those. some tv's got them |
| [17:42:22] | wagnerrp: | mythtv can only use CAMs if they are slotted directly into the tuner card |
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| [17:42:30] | Roed: | Okay |
| [17:43:00] | Roed: | I will look into a new card. Is Hauppauge the best atm? |
| [17:43:52] | wagnerrp: | doesnt matter, they only have one very old DVB-C card |
| [17:44:21] | wagnerrp: | however they are one of a very few number of companies that produces hardware encoder cards for analog |
| [17:44:40] | wagnerrp: | and the PVR-150/500 cards are absolutely the recommended card for analog tv |
| [17:45:04] | wagnerrp: | (or their HDPVR for HDTV, or one of their combo cards if you need analog and digital) |
| [17:45:38] | wagnerrp: | basically, if you want analog, you want a hauppauge |
| [17:45:49] | wagnerrp: | analog in mythtv, that is |
| [17:46:48] | Roed: | Okay. I need analog right now. but my provider also got digital dvb-c, and soon with mpeg-4 |
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| [17:47:22] | wagnerrp: | compression doesnt matter, the tuner cards dont care so long as you keep it within their bitrate limits |
| [17:47:33] | Roed: | Okay |
| [17:47:36] | wagnerrp: | and any modern card should have no problem handling the full bitrate of a DVB channel |
| [17:47:49] | Roed: | Super |
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| [17:48:11] | Roed: | So i just need an analog and dvb-c tuner then. |
| [17:48:31] | wagnerrp: | some old DVB cards were limited in bus bandwidth, which meant they couldnt be used with higher bandwidth HD streams |
| [17:48:39] | tj__: | I am trying to run 0.24 latest build but I keep getting an error. saying it is unable to calc params. |
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| [17:49:10] | wagnerrp: | tj__: what is saying that? |
| [17:49:18] | wagnerrp: | we need some context |
| [17:49:32] | skd5aner: | are there any startup/rc scripts in trunk or were they removeD? |
| [17:49:52] | tj__: | I am running the mythbackend. |
| [17:49:53] | wagnerrp: | http://mythtv.org/wiki/Startup_Scripts |
| [17:50:01] | skd5aner: | wagnerrp: thanks |
| [17:50:13] | Roed: | wagnerrp: Okay. I will try to find a new card very soon. Maybe post it here to see wheater or not you like it.. Thank you very much for the help :-) |
| [17:50:14] | skd5aner: | my startup scripts havne't worked for a while |
| [17:50:18] | wagnerrp: | tj__: is this something in the mythtv logs? or is this your startup script complaining? |
| [17:50:25] | tj__: | I am getting an error message "AutoExpire: ERROR: Filesystem info cache is empty, unable to calculate necessary parameters |
| [17:50:35] | tj__: | This is from standard out |
| [17:50:41] | tj__: | when I run it from the command line |
| [17:50:50] | wagnerrp: | Roed: basically, if youre recording analog, and not just watching directly, you want a hardware encoder |
| [17:51:00] | wagnerrp: | and that for the most part limits you to hauppauge cards |
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| [17:51:14] | wagnerrp: | there are a handful of others that also do hardware encoding, but not many |
| [17:51:34] | denniss: | hey, i am just playing around with my new box...and i have a problem getting the hd-channels tuned. i can get a lock using szap-s2 but in mythtv they are partly locked only, any idea? |
| [17:51:42] | Roed: | wagnerrp: Ok. i will look for one of those on their website. Thanks |
| [17:52:06] | wagnerrp: | they no longer sell their analog only cards, only combo units with DVB-T |
| [17:52:22] | wagnerrp: | at least over here, you can pick up their older analog-only cards used very cheaply |
| [17:52:46] | wagnerrp: | or you may just want to have DVB-T for when local channels start poping up |
| [17:52:52] | Roed: | I live in Denmark (Northern Europe) |
| [17:53:27] | Roed: | We do use dvb-t here, but my cable provider uses dvb-c |
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| [17:55:06] | Roed: | wagnerrp: have you seen this one Hauppauge WinTV HVR-930C |
| [17:55:49] | wagnerrp: | not a hardware encoder |
| [17:56:08] | Roed: | argh. and its very important? |
| [17:56:42] | wagnerrp: | you dont /need/ it, you can use a framegrabber with the V4L2 input in mythtv |
| [17:56:46] | wagnerrp: | but i wouldnt |
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| [17:56:58] | wagnerrp: | where were you scanning before? in mythtv or in some other program? |
| [17:57:15] | Roed: | in mythtv |
| [17:57:49] | wagnerrp: | if that card is returning FM channels in a scan, something is broken |
| [17:58:14] | wagnerrp: | you were scanning as a V4L2 device at /dev/video0? |
| [17:58:28] | Roed: | Well i dont think it is. |
| [17:58:58] | Roed: | I just started the backend. and started the channel scan |
| [17:59:12] | Roed: | it found alot of radio channels |
| [17:59:29] | wagnerrp: | started mythtv-setup rather |
| [17:59:33] | Roed: | But they are not listed in the watch tv |
| [17:59:34] | wagnerrp: | the backend doesnt do channel scans |
| [18:00:04] | Roed: | yeah :-) |
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| [18:00:22] | wagnerrp: | were you scanning analog or digital? |
| [18:00:29] | Roed: | im quite sure, my setup is wrong |
| [18:00:37] | Beirdo: | fugh |
| [18:00:42] | wagnerrp: | that card shows up as two devices |
| [18:00:48] | Roed: | now i have been stuck here for 8 hours :-( |
| [18:00:49] | wagnerrp: | a DVB-T tuner at /dev/dvb/adaptor0 |
| [18:00:50] | Beirdo: | wake up and my firewall box is wedged |
| [18:00:57] | wagnerrp: | and an analog tuner at /dev/video0 |
| [18:01:10] | wagnerrp: | you need to set both sides up independently |
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| [18:01:39] | wagnerrp: | and give them different sources |
| [18:01:45] | wagnerrp: | and scan them separately |
| [18:02:01] | wagnerrp: | you also need to add them to the same input group, so mythtv knows it cannot use both at the same time |
| [18:02:19] | Roed: | Ok. |
| [18:02:39] | Roed: | When i go into capture cards i got 1. in Input connections i got 3 |
| [18:02:51] | Roed: | S-video, coposite1 and television |
| [18:02:56] | Roed: | composite* |
| [18:03:33] | wagnerrp: | ok, those wouldnt show up unless you had the card set up properly |
| [18:03:34] | Roed: | I go to Video Source and make a new one. Called it TV. Selected grabber at Denmark xmltv |
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| [18:03:48] | Roed: | Ok |
| [18:03:49] | wagnerrp: | but that still makes no sense why you would be getting radio channels in an analog scan |
| [18:03:56] | wagnerrp: | they use different frequencies |
| [18:04:06] | wagnerrp: | the tuner card shouldnt even be capable of accessing them |
| [18:04:06] | Roed: | When i scan now i get alot of radio channels |
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| [18:04:16] | Roed: | heh, strange |
| [18:05:19] | Roed: | funny thing is that mythtv got the logos for allmost everyone of them. |
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| [18:05:42] | Roed: | and somehow they are in the list, i cant see then when i go to the frontend under watch tv |
| [18:05:54] | Roed: | maybe its because i have given them a number |
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| [18:08:55] | Crankygeek: | Wagnerrp: Good Afternoon.......You were helping me last night configure a system, do you think you can take a little time to contunue with me? |
| [18:09:05] | Roed: | wagnerrp: actually as i remember, when i do the scan i dont get anything. but these are listed when i run configure under the video source |
| [18:09:47] | denniss: | any idea why mythtv-setup gets a lock on a multiplex but frontend/backend does not? |
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| [18:14:52] | Crankygeek: | Does anyone know what I should be setting External channel change command: to with a DirectvSTB? |
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| [18:21:37] | Nede: | hi |
| [18:23:08] | Nede: | I would like some advice on hardware for a backend |
| [18:23:48] | Nede: | sorry for my english, i'm italian and use google translate.. |
| [18:24:41] | Nede: | ? |
| [18:24:47] | wagnerrp: | Nede: what do you want this backend to do? |
| [18:25:04] | wagnerrp: | Crankygeek: cant help you with that, never used an external changer |
| [18:26:01] | Nede: | wagnerrp one moment... |
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| [18:26:38] | ColdFyre: | so if i read the wiki right, myth has no pulseaudio support? |
| [18:27:25] | tj__: | I am getting an error message "AutoExpire: ERROR: Filesystem info cache is empty, unable to calculate necessary parameters |
| [18:27:28] | Nede: | to do live TV streaming 2-frontend, hd tv, streaming mp3, photos, movies and avi mkv, xmltv .... |
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| [18:27:46] | tj__: | This is from mythbackend |
| [18:27:49] | wagnerrp: | ColdFyre: its a bit more complicated, but correct |
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| [18:27:58] | tj__: | from the standard out |
| [18:28:28] | tj__: | This is on version 0.24 |
| [18:28:28] | wagnerrp: | tj__: is it actually affecting anything? |
| [18:28:54] | tj__: | Well on the front end I get one image and then the screen freezes |
| [18:29:20] | tj__: | and the output of frontend says something about 100ms since frame buffer. |
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| [18:29:31] | wagnerrp: | Nede: so you need two digital tuners and enough storage space for whatever your content is |
| [18:29:37] | tj__: | I'd have to run it again to get the exact message. on the front end |
| [18:29:40] | wagnerrp: | nothing real complex there |
| [18:30:33] | skd5aner: | bummer – everything was going so well, but having some serious issues trying to do anything with the backend |
| [18:30:47] | Nede: | wagnerrp: I already have a Hauppauge HVR-400 and a technotriend 1500 |
| [18:30:48] | skd5aner: | when connecting the frontend, it's extremely slow and will never play back video |
| [18:30:59] | skd5aner: | and even mythweb is tremendously slow when loading the status page |
| [18:31:42] | Nede: | wagnerrp: I need to change my pentium 4 .... |
| [18:32:04] | wagnerrp: | a P4 will do all of that |
| [18:32:33] | wagnerrp: | however its a bit underperforming if you want to do hardware raid, transcoding, or commercial flagging |
| [18:32:46] | wagnerrp: | it also consumes huge amounts of power for what its capable of |
| [18:34:58] | skd5aner: | man, this really sucks... wtf is going on |
| [18:35:33] | Nede: | wagnerrp: but want to change the machine, I recommend a powerful processor core i7 or just type a core duo? ram? The powerful GPU is the only frontend or backend? |
| [18:35:37] | Crankygeek: | <wagnerrp> What did you have me type in that line last night for the channel changer, I can't remember |
| [18:35:54] | wagnerrp: | '/bin/true' |
| [18:36:09] | wagnerrp: | just something to always return success, to make mythtv think the channel changing worked |
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| [18:36:34] | wagnerrp: | Nede: most of the task of the backend is to just shuffle files around |
| [18:37:09] | wagnerrp: | the scheduler, database, and guide download code all consume a lot of power, but only for short periods of the day |
| [18:37:32] | wagnerrp: | the more channels and tuners you have, the longer a scheduler run will take, and more desirable it will be to have a more powerful backend |
| [18:37:48] | wagnerrp: | then there is the jobqueue, commercial detection, transcoding, etc... |
| [18:37:54] | wagnerrp: | if you want to do those, the more power the better |
| [18:38:11] | wagnerrp: | 1GB is sufficient on a dedicated backend, 2GB is better |
| [18:38:17] | wagnerrp: | more than that, and its just going to disk cache |
| [18:38:29] | wagnerrp: | a GPU does exactly nothing on the backend |
| [18:38:53] | skd5aner: | ahhhh... here's a pretty dumb question, if I compiled mythtv with --enable-proc-opt, and now I have a new CPU, I imagine that it could have some issue running correct? |
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| [18:39:14] | wagnerrp: | it could |
| [18:39:16] | kormoc: | skd5aner, depends on if it's a upgrade or downgrade |
| [18:39:18] | wagnerrp: | from what to what? |
| [18:39:33] | Nede: | ahhh ok wagnerrp |
| [18:39:48] | Nede: | 2 gb ram? |
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| [18:41:30] | Nede: | my actually machine is a pentium 4 2,8 ghz, 2 gb ram, 1 Tb hd + 80 gb! Also it's fine? |
| [18:42:14] | skd5aner: | from an old athlon 64 X2 3800+ (I think) to a new mobo with an Athlon-II X4–640 |
| [18:42:36] | skd5aner: | myth is just SUPER slow |
| [18:42:37] | wagnerrp: | skd5aner: shouldnt have any trobles |
| [18:43:02] | skd5aner: | after the switch, mythbackend is just not responding properly at all |
| [18:43:09] | stoth: | wagnerrp: I'm running mythtv-rec and it wants to upgrade my other mythtv backend db. Any tips for running a second frontend/backend on a dev box on the same network as a production mythtv box? |
| [18:43:47] | wagnerrp: | stoth: the only issues you may run up against is the upnp detection |
| [18:44:00] | wagnerrp: | just make sure all your systems have config.xmls set up so it doesnt |
| [18:44:07] | wagnerrp: | or, turn off upnp entirely on the backends |
| [18:44:10] | knightr: | kormoc, Hi! I found out why I was getting those weird error messages in MythWeb (why it looked like I had no channels defined...).. |
| [18:44:11] | Nede: | Asus AT5IONT-I |
| [18:44:20] | Nede: | sorry, one moment.. |
| [18:45:02] | Nede: | I bought this card for my new frontend: Asus AT5IONT-I. I made a good buy for the frontend? |
| [18:45:06] | wagnerrp: | Nede: if you are considering converting from a pentium 4 to an Atom system, you are probably downgrading |
| [18:45:41] | kormoc: | knightr, yeah? |
| [18:45:42] | skd5aner: | hmmm, in the backend logs in mytweb it shows constant "scheduled items" entries |
| [18:46:07] | wagnerrp: | stoth: to disable upnp, you can either use '--noupnp' on the command line, or set the upnp PIN to <blank> |
| [18:46:22] | wagnerrp: | thats an impressive heatsink |
| [18:46:23] | Nede: | wagnerrp: only frontend... |
| [18:46:52] | Nede: | wagnerrp: p4 for backend.... |
| [18:48:29] | knightr: | kormoc, Looks like the "Only display favorite channels:" checkbox had been checked by mistake... I dug up the query in the getChannelList (or something like that code) to check what could make the query fail and then I found this had been clicked (not on purpose)... )-; |
| [18:49:03] | kormoc: | ahh! |
| [18:49:42] | stoth: | wagnerrp: I figured I'd run mythtv-setup and configure a new backend. Do you recall which file contains the mysql create tables etc? |
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| [18:50:08] | Nede: | wagnerrp: considerations? |
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| [18:50:22] | knightr: | kormoc: Yep, my thought exactly... Is this a temporary setting, I don't know how many times I restarted my backend... Is this kept in a cookie or elsewhere? |
| [18:50:26] | wagnerrp: | Nede: aside from reservations about hardware decoding, should work fine |
| [18:50:51] | wagnerrp: | stoth: mc.sql |
| [18:51:03] | stoth: | thx |
| [18:51:04] | wagnerrp: | but to be honest, all it does it create the mythconverg table and set up default encoding |
| [18:51:04] | tgm4883: | When mythtv is scheduling, If I have a schedule that is true for 2 different channels at the same time, how does mythtv choose which one to record? |
| [18:51:13] | tgm4883: | let me clarify that |
| [18:51:14] | wagnerrp: | database, rather |
| [18:51:23] | tgm4883: | the schedule is for the same show |
| [18:51:58] | Nede: | wagnerrp: but does not decode the backend? |
| [18:51:59] | wagnerrp: | tgm4883: assuming you have no schedule or recorder priorities, i assume from the top of the list down |
| [18:52:09] | wagnerrp: | Nede: no, the backend does not decode anything |
| [18:52:19] | Nede: | ah thack |
| [18:52:27] | Nede: | ah thank |
| [18:52:34] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, ok, thats what I was assuming too. So starting at channel 2 until it finds the first one |
| [18:53:00] | tgm4883: | basicaly I have a schedule for recording oregon football, and this week it might also be on ESPN (although likely not) |
| [18:53:03] | stoth: | whey! An "OpenCable recorder" |
| [18:53:10] | tgm4883: | "College Football: Stanford at Oregon or Washington at USC" |
| [18:53:18] | tgm4883: | that is not helpful for me :( |
| [18:53:40] | ttist25: | Hello. I'm capturing HD from my 1394 connection on my HD cable box. If I play recordings from within MythTV it's very choppy. If I navigate to the storage/recordings folder outside of myth and play those recordings they play pretty much flawlessly. I know I can change the player for videos but I can't find a concrete answer on whether I can change the default player for recordings. Can I? |
| [18:54:16] | Nede: | wagnerrp: one question: SSD? benefits for the backend or frontend or all two! Just for the know, the data for normal hd |
| [18:54:17] | ttist25: | ps – using VLC outside of myth |
| [18:54:26] | wagnerrp: | ttist25: mythtv does not support external players |
| [18:54:36] | wagnerrp: | Nede: no benefits, except higher cost |
| [18:54:49] | Nede: | ahahaha |
| [18:54:57] | ttist25: | I was afraid of that – thanks wagner |
| [18:55:00] | tgm4883: | ttist25, sounds like you need to try different playback profiles |
| [18:55:04] | wagnerrp: | ttist25: sounds like you screwed up your playback profile, try switching to Slim |
| [18:55:31] | ttist25: | I have played with profiles without much success – the thing that gets me is it works so well in VLC |
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| [18:56:34] | kormoc: | knightr, it's in the mythweb session, aye |
| [18:56:43] | kormoc: | we shouldn't allow it to be toggled if there are no favorite channels |
| [18:57:17] | Nede: | wagnerrp: thanks for the technical advice, I salute you and the next w mythtv |
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| [19:00:16] | knightr: | kormoc, only problem would be if *all* the favorites are removed after it has been checked... The setting would have to be cleared... The other possibility would be to warn about it if getChannelList returns no channels (in the search page and the listings page...) |
| [19:01:17] | knightr: | I was really beginning to think that package upgrade had messed up everything... |
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| [19:02:07] | knightr: | (it was done at about the same time that checkbox must have been checked...) |
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| [19:04:43] | skd5aner: | how to I log to the terminal window and a log file? |
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| [19:05:00] | kormoc: | knightr, yeah, I'll see bout making that a bit nicer |
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| [19:08:57] | knightr: | kormoc, Thanks! I won't make that mistake again (or if I do mistakenly click it I'll know what to do) but I'm sure I won't be the last person to do that mistake so doing something about it is appreciated. Thanks! |
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| [19:10:49] | knightr: | (if I was a little better at PHP I would try to fix it myself and submit you the patch but for now I prefer to leave the job to professionnals (-; ) |
| [19:11:06] | ttist25: | If I gave you guys my system info could you recommend recording profile settings that might help to reduce that choppiness? |
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| [19:12:19] | wagnerrp: | sure |
| [19:12:28] | ttist25: | ok – great |
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| [19:12:49] | ttist25: | Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.93GHz, 1024 KB cache, Nvidia GForce 7500 LE 256MB of RAM |
| [19:13:03] | ttist25: | and I'm capturing from the firewire port |
| [19:13:26] | ttist25: | and 1.5 GB RAM – sorry |
| [19:13:40] | wagnerrp: | so mpeg2 content? |
| [19:13:41] | skd5aner: | oooh, ahhh... make -j8 ;) |
| [19:13:53] | wagnerrp: | that processor should be able to do decoding entirely in software |
| [19:14:01] | wagnerrp: | but may struggle depending on the deint filter you use |
| [19:14:33] | ttist25: | well – like I said – it works great if I play these recordings in VLC |
| [19:15:02] | wagnerrp: | make sure you are using the proprietary nvidia drivers and xv |
| [19:15:02] | ttist25: | so – unless MythTV is using up a hell of a lot of resources – I think it should be able to handle it |
| [19:15:09] | wagnerrp: | and maybe try using bob or onefield |
| [19:15:11] | ttist25: | yep – been through that |
| [19:15:34] | ttist25: | not familiar with bob or onefield |
| [19:16:12] | ttist25: | is that something i should be looking for? |
| [19:16:27] | wagnerrp: | its in the playback profiles |
| [19:16:38] | wagnerrp: | select one, and hit 'edit' to get into the more advanced options |
| [19:17:47] | ttist25: | ok – I'm not infront of the box right now but I should look for bob or onefield? |
| [19:18:18] | wagnerrp: | those are low requirement deinterlacers |
| [19:18:25] | ttist25: | ok |
| [19:18:41] | ttist25: | and deinterlacing happens at playback time? |
| [19:18:52] | wagnerrp: | when else would it happend? |
| [19:19:17] | ttist25: | no clue boss! i'm still fumbling my way through :) |
| [19:19:20] | skd5aner: | well, in all fairness, you *could* deinterlace content before playback |
| [19:19:24] | skd5aner: | but mythtv doesn't do that |
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| [19:19:33] | wagnerrp: | the only way you can apply such filters is during playback or transcoding |
| [19:19:42] | skd5aner: | right |
| [19:19:42] | ttist25: | ok |
| [19:19:58] | ttist25: | I'll give those a shot |
| [19:20:05] | ttist25: | anything else you might recommend? |
| [19:21:29] | ttist25: | actually now that I think of it, I don't think I was in playback profiles – maybe only recording profiles |
| [19:22:20] | ttist25: | anyway – I'll give it a shot – thanks a bunch. You guys are always a big help |
| [19:23:03] | wagnerrp: | recording profiles do nothing when recording over firewire, or any other digital capture |
| [19:23:29] | ttist25: | heh – that's good to know |
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| [19:23:49] | stoth: | during Connect source to input, I select fetch channels from lisings source (schedulesdirect) and it's instanteaneous and doesn't appear to download channels. Neither can I then set a starting channel. Ideas? |
| [19:23:54] | ttist25: | that would explain why i saw no difference |
| [19:23:55] | wagnerrp: | recording profiles are to control how you handle compression |
| [19:24:04] | wagnerrp: | and all digital inputs mythtv supports are pre-compressed |
| [19:25:26] | ttist25: | stoth – have you verified username/password and network connectivity? |
| [19:25:42] | stoth: | yep |
| [19:27:45] | ttist25: | do you see your channel lineups? |
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| [19:28:08] | stoth: | ttist25: yep. I can manually add a channel for the sake of testing. It's ok. |
| [19:28:13] | skd5aner: | I think I fixed it... it was actually an update problem on the frontend... ::knock on wood:: |
| [19:28:37] | ** Beirdo enjoys his working HVR-2250 :) ** | |
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| [19:29:32] | Beirdo: | I should pop the box open and put in the SATA MiniPCIE card and the the fan grille |
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| [19:30:51] | Beirdo: | the the? |
| [19:30:59] | ** Beirdo glares at his fingers ** | |
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| [19:31:35] | jams: | if thats the worse thing your fingers do, I think you will be ok |
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| [19:32:14] | Beirdo: | that's for me to know, and you not to find out :) |
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| [19:32:37] | jams: | pretty sure i don't want to know |
| [19:32:46] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [19:32:59] | Beirdo: | yeah well... back to reality... |
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| [20:02:45] | ** RogerM is trying to translate "File Finder To Import". A theme string.. But has problems to actually understand what that combination of words is actually means. And running mytharchive without any recordings/videos doesn't make it easier. :) ** | |
| [20:03:33] | [R]: | it sound slike it might open a file finder |
| [20:03:34] | [R]: | to find files |
| [20:03:37] | [R]: | which to import |
| [20:05:37] | RogerM: | The theme file says it's in archivefile_selector so it could be in a "choose file" selector.. But since I have no files too choose I don't see that window. :) |
| [20:05:59] | RogerM: | better import a file to my collection and look further. |
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| [20:47:51] | skd5aner: | ABC's "My Generation" got the ax |
| [20:47:59] | [R]: | haha |
| [20:48:05] | [R]: | good thing i didn't waste my time on it |
| [20:48:29] | skd5aner: | eh, I was going to give it a shot – wife liked it |
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| [20:51:17] | skd5aner: | killed after 2 episodes, it is the second casualty of the new series in additon to Lone Star – surprised those are the only two so far |
| [20:51:30] | skd5aner: | too bad it wasn't 2 series that I had no interest in recording in the first place |
| [20:55:56] | Beirdo: | they axed Lone Star? |
| [20:55:59] | Beirdo: | jee |
| [20:56:04] | Beirdo: | idiots |
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| [20:56:27] | skd5aner: | yup |
| [20:57:00] | skd5aner: | I think the problem with lone start was under-promoting it before hand |
| [20:57:05] | skd5aner: | s/start/star |
| [20:57:20] | Beirdo: | bah to that |
| [20:57:38] | Beirdo: | the problem is network execs with rectal-cranial inversion |
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| [20:57:50] | skd5aner: | just saying – they didn't do a good job at getting the word out so that's why ratings were probably low |
| [20:58:04] | skd5aner: | the pilot was good – I haven't watched the second episode yet |
| [20:58:42] | Beirdo: | oh no... people in our "random" sampling didn't watch it... |
| [20:58:51] | Beirdo: | stupid network execs don't get it |
| [20:59:11] | Beirdo: | for a show to make it... you rely on word of mouth |
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| [20:59:26] | Beirdo: | and that doesn't happen in two episodes, usually |
| [21:01:42] | wagnerrp: | clearly they have some great marketing people |
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| [21:03:57] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:04:02] | ttist25: | hey guys – I was trying to change the deinterlacing options in my playback profile to try to help with stuttering but I don't have an option that says "Deinterlace playback" (using Mythdora 10.21) – do I need to set something somewhere else to see the option? |
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| [21:04:28] | wagnerrp: | you go into the playback profile, select the resolution range of your content, and 'edit' |
| [21:06:39] | ttist25: | AHA! Thank you sir |
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| [21:07:16] | Beirdo: | mythmusic isn't SG-capable yet, correct? |
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| [21:08:36] | wagnerrp: | correct |
| [21:09:01] | Beirdo: | K. Just wanted to be sure :) |
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| [21:11:18] | ttist25: | should I set my Primary and Fallback deinterlacers to the same thing? |
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| [21:12:46] | [R]: | ttist25: and the point of that is... |
| [21:13:39] | ttist25: | i'm assuming it's pointless? perhaps a better question would've been "what is a fallback deinterlacer? |
| [21:13:50] | ttist25: | :) |
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| [21:14:25] | [R]: | oen that is simpler than the main one |
| [21:14:28] | [R]: | so if the main one fails |
| [21:14:32] | [R]: | it has something to fall back onto |
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| [21:15:26] | ttist25: | ok gotcha – thanks |
| [21:18:19] | ttist25: | HAH! You guys rock! |
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| [21:18:42] | ttist25: | Thanks Wagner and R |
| [21:18:56] | ttist25: | Bob did the trick |
| [21:20:53] | sphery: | Bob's your uncle. |
| [21:21:38] | wagnerrp: | of course the differing opinion is that requiring Bob just means you need a batter processor |
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| [21:21:50] | ttist25: | correct |
| [21:22:11] | ttist25: | my wife is the other side of that differing opinion! |
| [21:22:25] | ttist25: | Uncle Bob is all for the better processor |
| [21:22:43] | wagnerrp: | shes promoting keeping with the 7yr old hardware? |
| [21:22:44] | sphery: | gotta heh |
| [21:22:55] | sphery: | s/gotta// |
| [21:23:20] | ttist25: | she says she's all for winning the lottery |
| [21:23:34] | ttist25: | so she can support my myth habit |
| [21:23:36] | wagnerrp: | arent we all |
| [21:23:39] | ttist25: | heh |
| [21:23:41] | sphery: | was going to say, "gotta convince her that you'll save money overall due to power savings from getting a nice low-TDP/low-energy-usage frontend with a real processor (like a Core 2 Duo)" |
| [21:24:12] | sid3windr: | sure will |
| [21:24:15] | sid3windr: | after about 10–15 years |
| [21:24:16] | sphery: | and taking advantage of modern processor's frequency scaling and power savings features |
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| [21:24:44] | ttist25: | she does drive a prius so – I might be able to convince her |
| [21:24:49] | sid3windr: | ahh |
| [21:24:56] | sphery: | sid3windr: heh, we're trying to sell the idea, so no need for specifics |
| [21:24:57] | sid3windr: | one of the most polluting cars in history |
| [21:24:59] | sid3windr: | awesome =) |
| [21:25:08] | sid3windr: | sphery: :> |
| [21:25:10] | wagnerrp: | sid3windr: an old P4 system is going to consume 100–150W on average |
| [21:25:36] | wagnerrp: | a modern system with power savings and clock scaling is going to be 25–50W onaverage |
| [21:25:56] | sid3windr: | yes, but how much does a watt cost, vs the cost of the atom/c2d +board+ new ram .. :) |
| [21:26:02] | sphery: | and a nice 80 PLUS PSU! |
| [21:26:08] | wagnerrp: | so depending on your parts and cost of power in your area, youre looking at 3–5 years for recovery |
| [21:26:09] | sid3windr: | hehe |
| [21:26:21] | sid3windr: | new 80 plus psu will surely add a year or two at least =) |
| [21:26:44] | ttist25: | it's not working |
| [21:26:53] | wagnerrp: | of course if youre the kind of person who actually wants to do data processing, youre looking at ROI in a few months |
| [21:26:57] | ttist25: | she's not going for it |
| [21:27:03] | sphery: | I've gotten all my 80 plus for $39.99 or less (one at $39.99, 2 at $19.99 and all the rest at $29.99) |
| [21:27:13] | sphery: | total of 9 |
| [21:27:34] | sphery: | of course, it was a no brainer for me to switch--since my old ones were blowing up :) |
| [21:27:51] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:28:03] | wagnerrp: | sid3windr: considering that same system that runs under load 50–75W less than the P4 system is also going to crank out 3–4x the work |
| [21:28:24] | sphery: | and will run under load much less of the time |
| [21:28:29] | wagnerrp: | so youre replacing 4 machines for maybe 1/7th the power consumption |
| [21:28:40] | sphery: | and the P4 probably doesn't do any real power savings even if it does freq scaling, right? |
| [21:28:55] | wagnerrp: | sure it does |
| [21:28:56] | sphery: | meaning at load or not, it's pretty much the same power usage |
| [21:29:07] | wagnerrp: | it will clock itself down to 200MHz for the purposes of not burning up |
| [21:29:15] | wagnerrp: | but its not going to do idle clock scaling |
| [21:29:23] | wagnerrp: | the kernel doesnt have access to that |
| [21:29:24] | sid3windr: | p4 clockback does not save watts |
| [21:29:27] | sid3windr: | hehe |
| [21:29:34] | sid3windr: | yes it may be doing 4x the work |
| [21:29:37] | sid3windr: | but usually it's just doing nothing |
| [21:29:41] | sid3windr: | as mythtv thing that is |
| [21:29:42] | sid3windr: | :p |
| [21:29:44] | sphery: | heh, ok, thermal protection excluded :) |
| [21:30:09] | sid3windr: | sphery: that's not expensive for 80plus psus btw |
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| [21:30:28] | sphery: | and a mythtv box that does nothing most of the time can really benefit from modern processor freq/power scaling |
| [21:30:56] | wagnerrp: | no, a mythtv box that does nothing most of the time can really benefit from modern standby and wakeup ability |
| [21:30:59] | ttist25: | in any case – thanks again |
| [21:31:06] | [R]: | wagnerrp++ |
| [21:31:40] | Beirdo: | I can really benefit from not worrying about power usage :) |
| [21:31:40] | sphery: | sid3windr: yeah, I've been buying mine when they're on sale. I also always go with 400W ones (and would be happier with smaller, if I could find them in 80 plus) |
| [21:31:44] | ttist25: | i can watch without wanting to launch my iphone into the LCD |
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| [21:32:06] | sphery: | Beirdo just ran an extension cord to the neighbor's apartment... |
| [21:32:11] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:32:12] | Beirdo: | no |
| [21:32:14] | ttist25: | hahahahaha |
| [21:32:20] | Beirdo: | but my bill is shockingly low |
| [21:32:21] | ttist25: | cyta |
| [21:32:24] | ttist25: | cya |
| [21:32:27] | sphery: | later |
| [21:32:32] | sphery: | best of luck getting that upgrade |
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| [21:34:42] | sphery: | wonder if kormoc is around and if he'd know if there's a bug in default backend port picking--for http://mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/2010 . . . /298697.html (and http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/7557 and http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/7561 and http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/9042 ) |
| [21:35:40] | ** sid3windr pays 208 eur/mo for power ** | |
| [21:35:43] | sid3windr: | ;[ |
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| [21:36:43] | [R]: | sid3windr: do you live in a mansion? |
| [21:36:53] | sid3windr: | no |
| [21:37:00] | sphery: | sid3windr: in Spain? |
| [21:37:03] | sid3windr: | no |
| [21:37:08] | Beirdo: | if he's paying EUR, that explains it |
| [21:37:10] | [R]: | i live in a desert |
| [21:37:15] | sid3windr: | how do you make a connection to spain? :P |
| [21:37:16] | [R]: | and dont pay anywhere near that |
| [21:37:20] | Beirdo: | Europe is more expensive than here by far |
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| [21:38:11] | sphery: | Spain was spending a fortune on renewable energy and drove their energy prices up higher than anywhere else in Europe (the world?)--and the economic issues in Spain are just making energy prices worse, now |
| [21:38:17] | sphery: | at least that's what I heard |
| [21:39:06] | Beirdo: | how odd. Myth recorded House... twice |
| [21:39:25] | Beirdo: | with the same description, same subtitle |
| [21:39:27] | sphery: | http://lmgtfy.com/?q=spain+renewable+energy+problems |
| [21:39:40] | sphery: | same programid? |
| [21:39:50] | sphery: | if both have programid, dup matching policy is ignored |
| [21:40:02] | sphery: | if so, then it aired at the same time on 2 channels with different callsigns |
| [21:40:04] | Beirdo: | let me check :) |
| [21:40:13] | Beirdo: | no, both were on Fox |
| [21:40:18] | sphery: | and that's a known bug--that you could fix :) |
| [21:40:27] | Beirdo: | smae prgramID |
| [21:40:33] | sphery: | right, but if it's fox on 2 different sources with 2 different callsigns |
| [21:40:42] | Beirdo: | one was on Monday, one on Friday |
| [21:40:45] | sphery: | oh |
| [21:41:01] | sphery: | then don't know why it would do that |
| [21:41:12] | sphery: | maybe different rules with one of them having no dup matching? |
| [21:41:14] | Beirdo: | one was 1hr long, the other 1h3m |
| [21:41:15] | sphery: | or an override? |
| [21:41:21] | Beirdo: | not that I know of |
| [21:41:35] | sphery: | different lengths but same programid? |
| [21:41:43] | sphery: | I could see the programid changing for that |
| [21:42:00] | sphery: | anyway, those were the only guesses I had for why |
| [21:42:04] | Beirdo: | EP006883590224 |
| [21:42:06] | Beirdo: | for both |
| [21:42:07] | sphery: | gotta go... good luck figuring it out |
| [21:42:15] | sphery: | I'll check mine later to see if it did the same |
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| [21:42:20] | Beirdo: | just odd |
| [21:42:22] | Beirdo: | I'll live |
| [21:43:10] | Beirdo: | if it keeps doing it, I will certainly be looking into it |
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| [21:49:47] | Beirdo: | um, how would ABC cancel Lone Star |
| [21:49:51] | Beirdo: | it's on Fox |
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| [21:53:31] | wagnerrp: | i suppose daddysmurf is not going to come over here? |
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| [21:54:27] | Beirdo: | heh,, too busy with Smurfette |
| [21:55:04] | wagnerrp: | his suga dauta? |
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| [21:55:23] | Beirdo: | something like that, must be |
| [21:56:10] | Beirdo: | hmmm, where was that guy complaining about filldb running every 3h rather than using suggested time? |
| [21:56:12] | sid3windr: | I have a small htpc case without fan, putting in an atom system that is passively cooled isn't a good idea, right |
| [21:56:49] | NightMonkey: | sid3windr: It Depends(tm). |
| [21:56:57] | sid3windr: | on what ? ;) |
| [21:57:04] | sid3windr: | room temperature? ;) |
| [21:57:08] | wagnerrp: | it depends on the size of your heatsink, and the open-ness of the case |
| [21:57:29] | sid3windr: | it's a big.ss heatsink I think, but the case isn't very open |
| [21:57:34] | sid3windr: | it has a vent opening above the cpu |
| [21:57:44] | sid3windr: | but it's meant to have a c2d cooler below it |
| [21:57:54] | wagnerrp: | got a drill press? |
| [21:57:58] | sid3windr: | no |
| [21:58:03] | sid3windr: | why? :) |
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| [21:58:23] | wagnerrp: | a sheet stamp? |
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| [21:58:47] | NightMonkey: | sid3windr: Grab one of these: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0017L9Q9C/ref=oss_product and let us know if it was a good idea. ;) |
| [21:58:55] | sid3windr: | dunno what a sheet stamp is |
| [21:59:02] | sid3windr: | google image gives sheets of stamps |
| [21:59:02] | sid3windr: | ;) |
| [21:59:12] | wagnerrp: | sheet metal stamp |
| [21:59:12] | sid3windr: | heatsink would be something like this http://www.zotacusa.com/zotac-ionitx-f-e-atom . . . erboard.html |
| [21:59:29] | wagnerrp: | a big mechanical or hydraulic press that punches holes in sheet metal |
| [21:59:47] | sid3windr: | NightMonkey: well, that would be a useful thing to have in any case I think – but We are not able to ship this item to your default shipping address. |
| [21:59:50] | sid3windr: | ;) |
| [21:59:57] | sid3windr: | wagnerrp: no, I don't have handyman tools due to not being a handy man ;) |
| [22:00:29] | NightMonkey: | sid3windr: Wha? |
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| [22:01:39] | sid3windr: | NightMonkey: I think they only ship to US ;) |
| [22:01:56] | ** sid3windr gotta stop using ;) – i've used it like 15 times in the last 20 lines :( ** | |
| [22:01:57] | NightMonkey: | sid3windr: Oh. |
| [22:02:06] | wagnerrp: | why not use that tiny fan that comes with it |
| [22:02:12] | NightMonkey: | Well, something like it, anyway. |
| [22:02:16] | sid3windr: | hmm |
| [22:02:19] | sid3windr: | does that board come with a fan? |
| [22:02:36] | Beirdo: | put down the ;) bong |
| [22:02:39] | sid3windr: | oh hmm |
| [22:02:46] | wagnerrp: | sure looks like it in the pictures you posted |
| [22:02:51] | sid3windr: | well if there wasn't one included I'd probably be looking for something like it indeed |
| [22:02:52] | wagnerrp: | tiny little 60x60x10 |
| [22:02:57] | sid3windr: | unless now you guys said no it's excellent without fan |
| [22:03:03] | sid3windr: | because obviously even the tiniest fan makes noise |
| [22:03:12] | sid3windr: | most tiny fans make more noise than the big ones too |
| [22:03:22] | sid3windr: | but I'm sure they won't be that crazy to bundle a 12krpm fan :P |
| [22:03:33] | sid3windr: | this pc is in the bedroom, currently on a pentium dualcore with stock intel cooler |
| [22:03:43] | sid3windr: | if I can cut down the noise some more that would be good |
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| [22:09:43] | Beirdo: | wagnerrp: the filldb ignoring the nextsuggestedtime is a real thing, it seems |
| [22:12:58] | Beirdo: | and... |
| [22:13:07] | Beirdo: | the setting is NOT in my db either |
| [22:13:31] | Beirdo: | don't we have some sort of SetSetting() call? |
| [22:15:04] | Beirdo: | and yes we do |
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| [22:22:11] | Beirdo: | wagnerrp: who's the mythfilldb god? |
| [22:22:45] | wagnerrp: | stuartm i believe |
| [22:24:42] | Beirdo: | K |
| [22:24:53] | Beirdo: | I think that we should be using SetSetting() in there |
| [22:25:14] | Beirdo: | or rather... SaveSetting() |
| [22:26:23] | Beirdo: | I'll create a patch locally and try it |
| [22:26:46] | Beirdo: | but the report of it running every 3h is definitely the case, and not the expected behavior |
| [22:27:00] | Beirdo: | if the setting isn't in the db, it never adds it, only updates it if it's there |
| [22:27:07] | Beirdo: | a pretty clear bug, I'd say |
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| [22:59:28] | dlonie`: | Hi all, I'm having a bizarre issue with mythtv. No matter what theme I load, no images appear on the menu screens, only text. |
| [22:59:59] | dlonie`: | Some themes don't even show which entry is highlighted, making navigation fun :-) |
| [23:00:17] | dlonie`: | Any ideas? |
| [23:03:03] | wagnerrp: | the 'highlighted' issue is one where youre using pre-release themes with a released 0.23, or visa versa |
| [23:03:17] | wagnerrp: | problems with image loads would be documented in your frontend logs |
| [23:04:42] | dlonie`: | I've tried clearing out /usr/share/mythtv and reinstall to clean old themes, but it still happens. I don't see any problems in the log other than font substitutions, but I'll look again. |
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| [23:04:57] | wagnerrp: | what version of mythtv are you running? |
| [23:06:07] | dlonie`: | Trunk, just pulled a few moments ago |
| [23:06:26] | wagnerrp: | what video card? |
| [23:08:00] | dlonie`: | This happens both on the backend machine with a nvidia GeForce 8400 GS, and when Xforwarding through ssh to a Mobile Intel GM45 |
| [23:08:41] | wagnerrp: | ssh forwarding... it could be OpenGL issues |
| [23:08:50] | wagnerrp: | have you tried 'mythfrontend -O ThemePainter=qt'? |
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| [23:10:01] | mohi666: | what's the best TV Tuner compatible with Linux? |
| [23:10:14] | wagnerrp: | that depends |
| [23:10:40] | dlonie`: | wagnerrp: That worked! |
| [23:10:41] | wagnerrp: | we have NTSC tuners, PAL tuners, SECAM tuners, ATSC tuners, QAM tuners, DVB-T tuners, DVB-S tuners, DVB-S2 tuners, DVB-C tuners, ISDB tuner... |
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| [23:11:33] | Beirdo: | and "best" also depends on what your ranking criteria are |
| [23:11:58] | wagnerrp: | and since youre a california comcast user, you are probably going to want to read http://mythtv.org/wiki/Recording_Digital_Cable |
| [23:12:10] | dlonie`: | Well, sort of — Now it's drawing the background, but not drawing images or highlighting menu entries |
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| [23:12:50] | dlonie`: | I'll pastebin a verbose output in a minute... |
| [23:13:57] | dlonie`: | http://codepad.org/JjvxWLXd |
| [23:14:54] | dlonie`: | Image loading stuff starts around line 500 |
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| [23:20:13] | dlonie`: | ack, apparent codepad truncates. Full log: http://69.204.65.200/fe.out |
| [23:21:41] | dlonie`: | Looks like it can't find anything in the cache, and then tries to load directly. I checked ~/.mythtv/themecache and all theme caches are empty |
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| [23:33:15] | Beirdo: | urgh |
| [23:33:27] | Beirdo: | stop getting bad signal. |
| [23:33:31] | Beirdo: | stupid antenna |
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| [23:54:56] | Beirdo: | another "minor" bug fixed. Gotta see if there was a ticket |
| [23:58:20] | Beirdo: | win 14 |
| [23:58:23] | Beirdo: | argh |
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