| Saturday, September 18th, 2010, 00:01 UTC | ||
| [00:01:06] | pak0: | what can i do for solve my problem with flash and mythbrowser? |
| [00:04:53] | iamlindoro: | pak0, wait for Qt to work around it, or for Adobe to fix flash |
| [00:05:03] | iamlindoro: | you can *try* 10.0, but there are no promises with flash |
| [00:09:41] | sphery: | pak0: so 10.2 didn't work? |
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| [00:10:10] | sphery: | Now I know why they call it "Square" |
| [00:10:36] | sphery: | this is why closed, proprietary code is so much better than open code |
| [00:10:51] | sphery: | it's literally a single line of code to fix it, and Adobe can't be bothered |
| [00:11:50] | sphery: | so instead, we have to put hacks in browsers to work around the issue |
| [00:12:03] | [R]: | i swear |
| [00:12:08] | [R]: | my dad acts like the world is going to come to an end |
| [00:12:12] | [R]: | if he can't watch fox news |
| [00:12:56] | sphery: | I thought people watched Fox News so they could hear how the world is coming to an end |
| [00:13:48] | skd5aner: | s/I thought people watched Fox News so they could hear how the world is coming to an end/I thought people watched News so they could hear how the world is coming to an end |
| [00:13:52] | [R]: | sphery: ROFL |
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| [00:14:05] | [R]: | so he comes into the living room, change sthe channel |
| [00:14:07] | [R]: | and then walks right out |
| [00:14:09] | [R]: | like wtf |
| [00:14:29] | skd5aner: | or, more simply s/Fox News/News |
| [00:14:55] | sphery: | yeah, that fits, too |
| [00:15:09] | [R]: | Error: unterminated `s' command |
| [00:15:15] | sphery: | guess the main difference is which direction the fingers are pointing |
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| [00:16:40] | sphery: | wow, someone needs to check [R] for a buffer overflow. I think your regexp syntax issue caused a segfault |
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| [00:55:43] | gpmidi_wrk: | Hey, I'm running Mythdora and have two HD-PVRs setup. I'm having trouble getting live tv to work. Whenever I try to go to it, it fails to launch and usually takes me back to the main menu. Once in a while it will work but displays the screen twice (top half, bottom half, both showing the same somewhat messed up image). I've followed and reviewed the HD-PVR Wiki page and been unable to figure out what, if anything, I've done wrong. Any ideas? |
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| [00:56:43] | wagnerrp: | that half-half issue is one with ATI drive problems |
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| [00:57:09] | gpmidi_wrk: | wagnerrp: ah, I happen to be using an ati card, what's the solution to it? |
| [00:57:50] | wagnerrp: | dont use the 'bob' deint filter |
| [00:58:17] | gpmidi_wrk: | is that in the ati control panel? |
| [00:58:34] | wagnerrp: | no, thats in mythtv |
| [01:00:23] | gpmidi_wrk: | cool, found wiki page on how to change that |
| [01:00:38] | gpmidi_wrk: | what do I do about it not even picking up video from either of my hd-pvrs? |
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| [01:01:49] | wagnerrp: | the recording issues, check your backend logs |
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| [01:04:02] | gpmidi_wrk: | will do, thanks |
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| [01:59:38] | gpmidi_wrk: | I'm making progress but now mythtv's backend is segfaulting on me: Sep 17 21:57:55 stor16 kernel: mythbackend[4399]: segfault at 7f555c002ca0 ip 0000003dd3c77a73 sp 00007f546a1faf80 error 4 in libc-2.11.2.so[3dd3c00000+170000] |
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| [03:27:28] | high-rez: | Has mythcenter been updated to use a new OSD ? |
| [03:28:25] | wagnerrp: | mythcenter hasnt been updated to be mythcenter |
| [03:28:35] | wagnerrp: | nearly all of it is just passed through to the defaults |
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| [03:35:24] | high-rez: | the OSD is now... blue instead of the black one – and doesn't show channel etc when surfing through livetv? The blue looks real nice, just isn't quite as useful as the black osd. |
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| [05:56:10] | Beirdo: | what is this? Everyone has a life tonight? |
| [05:56:19] | [R]: | lol |
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| [05:59:52] | ** Beirdo grumbles at Qt for being a pain today ** | |
| [06:00:20] | [R]: | did you do the "Cute 4 dance"? |
| [06:01:24] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [06:01:37] | Beirdo: | even sacrificed a small goat |
| [06:02:50] | [R]: | maybe it was too small... |
| [06:03:01] | [R]: | sacrifices require a hefty goat or lamb |
| [06:04:05] | Beirdo: | seems that way |
| [06:14:59] | wagnerrp: | hey now, we at mythtv are not monsters... kitten sacrifices only |
| [06:16:03] | Beirdo: | you been in the pr0n again? |
| [06:16:06] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [06:16:31] | Beirdo: | tell me... why do we bring up a webserver to try to find the backend via UPnP? |
| [06:17:59] | wagnerrp: | what kind of sick porn are you looking at that has ritual sacrifice? |
| [06:18:35] | Beirdo: | no no... that's related to an image that used to be on the internet... |
| [06:18:35] | wagnerrp: | the upnp detection uses mythxml to query the database info |
| [06:18:44] | Beirdo: | yes, but as a client. |
| [06:18:56] | Beirdo: | why do we need an httpserver in the client?! |
| [06:18:59] | wagnerrp: | <backend>:6544/myth/GetConnectionInfo?Pin=0000 |
| [06:19:08] | wagnerrp: | in the client? you dont |
| [06:19:19] | Beirdo: | well, we do |
| [06:19:25] | wagnerrp: | and you should continue |
| [06:19:30] | wagnerrp: | or else youre going to break my stuff |
| [06:19:31] | Beirdo: | :6549 t seems |
| [06:19:51] | wagnerrp: | i dont use the web server |
| [06:19:52] | Beirdo: | I'm looking into that previewgen hang |
| [06:19:54] | wagnerrp: | but i use the upnp detection |
| [06:20:09] | Beirdo: | yeah, I think the code in our libs is odd. |
| [06:20:25] | Beirdo: | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:God-kills-kitten.jpg |
| [06:20:28] | Beirdo: | there ya go |
| [06:20:30] | wagnerrp: | and any machine that responds to a upnp query is supposed to have a page where you can subsequently query the capabilities of the device |
| [06:20:49] | [R]: | Beirdo: everyone knwos its 'god kills a kitten when you download mp3s' |
| [06:21:46] | Beirdo: | yeah, but the frontend when doing upnp discovery of the backend (and other clients) shouldn't need a webserver, it's a client |
| [06:21:51] | Beirdo: | or am I missing something? |
| [06:22:10] | wagnerrp: | [R]: i thought it was 'when you download mp3s, you promote communism/terrorism' |
| [06:22:33] | Beirdo: | or at least you piss off Metallica |
| [06:22:38] | [R]: | wagnerrp: that too |
| [06:22:45] | [R]: | but mainly kittens are killed |
| [06:22:49] | wagnerrp: | the frontend exposes it self as a upnp capable object |
| [06:22:59] | wagnerrp: | if you run an msearch, you find the frontend |
| [06:23:02] | Beirdo: | fine |
| [06:23:05] | wagnerrp: | has nothing to do with upnp detection of the backend |
| [06:23:12] | wagnerrp: | completely independent |
| [06:23:22] | Beirdo: | nope |
| [06:23:34] | Beirdo: | should be |
| [06:23:37] | Beirdo: | but it isn't |
| [06:25:36] | Beirdo: | the code in mythcontext.cpp that creates the server on that port is included by mythpreviewgen |
| [06:27:43] | Beirdo: | and I don't get why we need a server at all other than that the code seems to think it needs one |
| [06:28:14] | [R]: | if the code says so, it must be true |
| [06:28:18] | [R]: | the code is never wrong |
| [06:28:22] | [R]: | thats something i learned once a long time ago |
| [06:30:47] | wagnerrp: | well remove what you wish, but i would like the upnp server in the frontend to remain |
| [06:31:08] | wagnerrp: | so whatever you need to retain that capability |
| [06:31:17] | Beirdo: | yah, I'm not concerned about that |
| [06:31:18] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [06:31:42] | Beirdo: | I'm concerned about the preview generator seemingly wanting to have one or soemthing |
| [06:31:50] | [R]: | you can do GetScreenshot over the webserver for the frontend |
| [06:31:58] | [R]: | i know people were tlaking about it the other day on the ml |
| [06:32:04] | Beirdo: | I know you can |
| [06:32:08] | Beirdo: | I fixed it :) |
| [06:32:19] | [R]: | does it get a screenshot of the video? |
| [06:32:30] | Beirdo: | it does for me |
| [06:32:45] | [R]: | interesting |
| [06:32:46] | Beirdo: | I think it depends on your playback renderer |
| [06:32:50] | [R]: | voodoo magic |
| [06:41:21] | Beirdo: | what the... |
| [06:48:06] | Beirdo: | wagnerrp: confirmed that it opens the port, listens to it |
| [06:54:34] | Beirdo: | so not good |
| [06:55:38] | Beirdo: | gonna have to figure out how to make the preview generator be capable of discovery without announcing itself as a renderer (which the frontend SHOULD) |
| [06:57:01] | Beirdo: | or if it must, it should use a random high port so they don't collide with each other |
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| [07:04:40] | wagnerrp: | i really wish fallout would let you know how much 'high' time you have left before the drugs wear off |
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| [07:05:08] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [07:09:08] | wagnerrp: | i take a strength enhancer to let me carry that little extra bit of loot |
| [07:09:25] | wagnerrp: | and the moment i get out side so as to fast-travel, it wears off, preventing fast-travel |
| [07:11:41] | xris: | heh |
| [07:11:49] | ** xris wonders when he'll have time to play video games again ** | |
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| [07:12:05] | Beirdo: | about 13–14 years? |
| [07:12:20] | Beirdo: | nah, should be sooner :) |
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| [07:13:22] | xris: | yeah, should be a window where I can play before he gets old enough to steal the controllers away from me |
| [07:13:39] | Beirdo: | and then you can maybe even play WITH him :) |
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| [07:19:48] | wagnerrp: | thats all well and good as long as you can still let him win |
| [07:20:34] | wagnerrp: | im sure it loses some of the fun when that stops being a choice |
| [07:20:51] | ** xris sucks at video games ** | |
| [07:21:39] | wagnerrp: | what the crap... it just spawned to guys out of thin air, right behind me |
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| [08:11:50] | wagnerrp: | wow... 60-some comments in the Ars article about the HDCP stuff, and not one talks about it being used to rip bluray disks |
| [08:12:15] | wagnerrp: | in fact the only mention of bluray is someone saying it would allow him to play his movies on his non-hdcp compliant monitor |
| [08:19:18] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [08:19:32] | Beirdo: | the HDFury already covered that |
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| [10:10:42] | stuartm: | wagnerrp: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki?title=Talk:Hauppau . . . p;rcid=48706 |
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| [12:09:22] | s000501: | Having a problem ("Huh, no eprom present", "Invalid EEPROM", "Encoder mailbox not found") with my Hauppage PVR-500 tuner card after installing a new motherboard, any tips to resolve these issues? |
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| [12:48:48] | ikke-t: | "pre-roll + head start" what is head start in mythtv? |
| [12:53:27] | ikke-t: | what is this option used for, trying to translate it... |
| [12:53:32] | ikke-t: | any idea? |
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| [13:26:46] | RDV_Linux: | Has anyone seen in current trunk where MythTV does not pass the channel number to the channel change script specified on the setup input connections. This script works from the command line. In the script I piped bash parms 0–4 to a file and parm 0 of course is the script path but no other parms have values. |
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| [15:10:59] | cleith: | hello, anybody around? |
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| [15:23:17] | high-rez: | I'm not around. For sure. |
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| [15:58:07] | russell5: | hey does anyone know how mark videos as watched in the mythvideo plugin. i found this and it seems that it is in the code but i cant find the setting http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/changeset/21217 |
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| [15:59:54] | wagnerrp: | probably in the info (i) menu |
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| [16:01:33] | stuartm: | in 0.25 it should work no differently to the how it does for recordings, hopefully |
| [16:01:55] | russell5: | :) thanks i am an idiot i was just looking in menu |
| [16:07:55] | wagnerrp: | stuartm: you still have access to the pages after deletion? |
| [16:08:32] | stuartm: | yeah |
| [16:08:57] | stuartm: | nothing truely gets deleted in wiki land |
| [16:09:09] | wagnerrp: | that some sysop thing? on our end theres nothing but the notification of deletion |
| [16:09:10] | wagnerrp: | ah |
| [16:09:22] | stuartm: | sysops+ |
| [16:10:37] | stuartm: | there are a bunch of things you probably don't see as an ordinary user |
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| [16:41:24] | waza-ari: | hey all, i have two questions regarding mythtv: (im using mythbuntu with the currently shipped version of mythtv). |
| [16:41:47] | wagnerrp: | doubtful |
| [16:42:22] | wagnerrp: | youre either running the one that comes with ubuntu, which is several hundred revisions prior to the release |
| [16:42:35] | wagnerrp: | or youre running the -fixes branch, which is well after the release |
| [16:43:10] | wagnerrp: | if youre in the former, you should update |
| [16:44:09] | waza-ari: | mythbuntu is a special ubuntu distribution. It comes with mythtv 0-23-fixes (24158) |
| [16:44:23] | wagnerrp: | yes, that is not 0.23 |
| [16:44:37] | wagnerrp: | that is some snapshot of the 0.23-fixes branch prior to the actual 0.23 release |
| [16:44:48] | wagnerrp: | and technically, the 'currently shipped' version of mythtv is 0.23.1 |
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| [16:45:18] | waza-ari: | yeah, that was my fault. i just wanted to say that im using the version that comes with mythbuntu. |
| [16:45:28] | waza-ari: | So i should update before asking some silly questions? |
| [16:46:10] | wagnerrp: | if its general use, go ahead and ask |
| [16:46:19] | wagnerrp: | if its bugs and/or instabilities, update |
| [16:48:29] | waza-ari: | Its some sound (re)encodung issue. I found some threads in the mailing archive. Going to update, try again and hope, i dont have to ask :) |
| [16:49:26] | waza-ari: | But anyway, i have one general question: Is it possible, to get german metadata? And is it possible, to update all metadata at once? |
| [16:49:50] | wagnerrp: | schedulesdirect is the only service for which mythtv has direct support for |
| [16:50:07] | wagnerrp: | anything else, youll have to provide an XMLTV provider to use, and configure mythtv to use that |
| [16:51:02] | wagnerrp: | s/provide/find/ |
| [16:51:22] | wagnerrp: | anyway, whats your sound issue? |
| [16:51:46] | wagnerrp: | 're-encoding'... so youre trying to transcode stuff? |
| [16:52:14] | waza-ari: | I have some video files with dts encoded sound. I'm using digital output over hdmi connection. I just want the decoded dts data sent to receiver, but somehow mythvideo is decoding and re-encoding the audio stuff to ac3 |
| [16:52:25] | waza-ari: | see here: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/archive/MythTV_C2/Users_F11/ |
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| [16:53:02] | wagnerrp: | that got added in 0.23 |
| [16:53:16] | wagnerrp: | passthough is still supported, i dont quite remember how to set it up |
| [16:53:18] | wagnerrp: | i dont use it |
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| [16:54:00] | waza-ari: | okay, then hopefully it will work, when the update process is complete :) |
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| [17:00:36] | waza-ari: | hm, after updating to 0.23.1 i still dont get dts sound. Is there anything special i have to set? |
| [17:01:14] | skd5aner: | wagnerrp: good afternoon! |
| [17:02:30] | skd5aner: | wagnerrp: I added a new section to the release notes wiki page – prerequisite changes", was hoping you might be able to help out with any python items that might need to be added |
| [17:02:35] | skd5aner: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Release_Notes_-_0. . . . site_Changes |
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| [17:03:13] | skd5aner: | Not sure if there's any new libraries and/or min. version requirements that might have been added (or changed/removed) since last release |
| [17:03:22] | skd5aner: | released to the python stuff |
| [17:03:27] | skd5aner: | s/released/related |
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| [17:08:21] | wagnerrp: | will do |
| [17:08:58] | wagnerrp: | lxml is the only thing ive added |
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| [17:09:09] | skd5aner: | ok, it's already on there |
| [17:09:15] | wagnerrp: | mysqldb was required before, but was never forced by the installer |
| [17:09:16] | skd5aner: | good deal then |
| [17:09:45] | wagnerrp: | mnv adds some other requirements for specific grabbers, like oauth |
| [17:09:56] | waza-ari: | great. after updating my sound card is not recognized at all anymore... |
| [17:10:38] | skd5aner: | ok, if you know specifically the requirements (and it's new) can you add them? if not, I'll dig into the grabber scripts and figure it out |
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| [17:11:06] | wagnerrp: | i think the requirements are all listed on the MNV page |
| [17:11:12] | wagnerrp: | i know ive seen them somewhere on the wiki |
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| [17:11:19] | skd5aner: | ok, I'll hunt them own |
| [17:11:20] | skd5aner: | down |
| [17:11:25] | wagnerrp: | waza-ari: 0.23 does not detect sound cards |
| [17:11:26] | skd5aner: | thanks for the lead |
| [17:11:43] | waza-ari: | ubuntu is not detecting my sound card at all... |
| [17:11:51] | waza-ari: | aplay -L only lists the pulseaudio device... |
| [17:12:17] | wagnerrp: | ubuntu is a different matter, we dont provide support for that here |
| [17:12:24] | wagnerrp: | we can only suggest you completely uninstall pulseaudio |
| [17:12:47] | waza-ari: | sure. just wanted to say that after updating i cannot test it, cause sound card is not detected anymore. |
| [17:12:55] | waza-ari: | I use pulseaudio to stream sound from laptop to media pc |
| [17:13:29] | wagnerrp: | so youre one of the 1–2% that actually has use for a sound server... rare |
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| [17:14:10] | waza-ari: | yeah, i have... and pulseaudio is somehow the only solution i found... |
| [17:14:35] | wagnerrp: | pulseaudio, jack, arts, esound... plenty of sound servers |
| [17:14:52] | wagnerrp: | mythtv 0.23 does not support use of pulseaudio |
| [17:14:58] | waza-ari: | i know its a bit off-topic, but which would you recomment? |
| [17:15:03] | wagnerrp: | instead, it disables it on sight so it can access ALSA |
| [17:15:22] | wagnerrp: | trunk, which will be branched to 0.24 in a few days, does support it |
| [17:15:23] | waza-ari: | mythtv is using the alsa device and i cannot use pulseaudio during mythtv is running... |
| [17:15:33] | wagnerrp: | if you must use pulseaudio, you may want to consider upgrading to that |
| [17:16:21] | waza-ari: | i dont have to – if there is another (good) solution just to stream the sound from notebook to media-pc, i would also switch away from pulseaudio |
| [17:16:28] | kisak: | where a lossless mpeg2 transcode fails, does a non-lossless pass have a better chance of success? |
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| [17:21:25] | wagnerrp: | actually... you wanted to do passthrough audio? |
| [17:21:30] | wagnerrp: | pulseaudio isnt even an option |
| [17:21:33] | wagnerrp: | it doesnt allow passthrough |
| [17:22:04] | tank-man: | kisak, probably depends, only you have seen the error message. |
| [17:22:09] | waza-ari: | not from notebook. I just want mythtv (directly on media-pc) to use passthrough. Since afaik it directly uses alsa, i should be fine? |
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| [17:23:27] | kisak: | tank-man: it's error 232, deadlock detected |
| [17:25:09] | stuartm: | the lossless/lossy transcodes follow very different paths, so yes, a lossy transcode is likely to succeeded |
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| [17:26:19] | stuartm: | but it will also change the codec, bitrate etc and decrease overall quality |
| [17:28:58] | kisak: | well, I have a removecommecial script and I'm working on a second-attempt section which only comes into play after a deadlock is detected and I know that lossless is not able to handle the job |
| [17:30:03] | kisak: | remuxing the file with ffmpeg and sending it back through the same routine doesn't improve the success rate |
| [17:31:11] | kisak: | I don't want to go lossy, primarily due to the additional payload on the server, but I don't see what other option I have at this point |
| [17:37:10] | stuartm: | unfortunately not many people want to work on the lossless transcode, so it still has the odd bug |
| [17:37:28] | wagnerrp: | cut at keyframes, use some tool to fix the timecodes, and reformulate the seek and cut data |
| [17:39:04] | kisak: | I don't see a way to do that in a script |
| [17:39:51] | wagnerrp: | the only thing you cant do in a script is fix the timecodes |
| [17:40:01] | wagnerrp: | you need to call some external executable for that |
| [17:41:37] | wagnerrp: | sadly, thats the tricky part |
| [17:41:51] | wagnerrp: | finding something that will work on TS files, and wont completely barf |
| [17:42:02] | wagnerrp: | havent found one yet |
| [17:42:11] | wagnerrp: | the script is otherwise mostly written |
| [17:43:26] | kisak: | oh! I possibly missed a step in the process |
| [17:43:40] | kisak: | hopefully it'll improve the odds |
| [17:44:13] | kisak: | mythtranscode --gencutlist inside of the second chance section |
| [17:44:18] | waza-ari: | One more question Following a guide on wiki i have to 'Check the box next to "AC3 to SPDIF passthrough"' in General settings. I have no such checkbox. Was it removed/renamed? |
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| [17:45:34] | wagnerrp: | yes, it got reworked for 0.23, and again for trunk (0.24) |
| [17:45:45] | wagnerrp: | so any audio guides will be outdated |
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| [17:46:50] | waza-ari: | wagnerrp: hm, okay. anything else i have to set? Or should it be okay to select an digital audio interface and check Dolby and DTS box? |
| [17:47:13] | wagnerrp: | dont know, i dont use that stuff |
| [17:47:23] | waza-ari: | Hm, okay. Thanks anyway |
| [17:47:30] | waza-ari: | Okay, one last question: |
| [17:47:46] | waza-ari: | can i get german metadata for my mythvideo films? |
| [17:48:08] | FredYerkes: | Hello – has IMDB changed something that's reulsting in errors starting like this? – "WARNING [imdbpy.parser.http.urlopener]" |
| [17:48:39] | wagnerrp: | mythvideo is pulled from thetvdb.com and themoviedb.org, if they have german data available, and their APIs support alternate language support, you can pull it |
| [17:48:55] | wagnerrp: | FredYerkes: we dont support anything that pulls data from the IMDB website here |
| [17:50:58] | FredYerkes: | wagnerrp: roger that, that's probably the issue then, I'm using the wrong source with jamu |
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| [18:18:10] | skd5aner: | so, what exactly is yasm, and what's it do (and why is it recommended)? |
| [18:20:18] | Beirdo: | OK, have the HVR-2250 ;) |
| [18:20:35] | Beirdo: | just collected it from downstairs |
| [18:21:00] | kisak: | and the peasants rejoice |
| [18:23:10] | wagnerrp: | skd5aner: its an alternate assembly linker |
| [18:24:32] | skimpydog: | I have a question regarding mythweb, and I have a feeling this is related to rewriterules in apache |
| [18:24:55] | skimpydog: | for example: https://domain.com/secret.cake/mythweb/tv |
| [18:25:00] | skimpydog: | brings me to a 404 |
| [18:25:23] | skimpydog: | as expected as there's really nothin in there as it should be directed by the tmpl if I'm not mistaken |
| [18:25:31] | wagnerrp: | you need to set the correct Rewrite Base in the mythweb.conf httpd inclide |
| [18:25:39] | kisak: | secret.cake is secret |
| [18:25:43] | high-rez: | Woot, got rid of my old server on CL before it lost more value :) |
| [18:25:48] | skimpydog: | I just commented that out before restarting apache |
| [18:25:53] | skimpydog: | lookin again |
| [18:26:35] | skimpydog: | I assume this shoudl be: |
| [18:26:36] | skimpydog: | RewriteBase /secret.cake/mythweb/ |
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| [18:26:43] | skimpydog: | according to the path? |
| [18:26:47] | Beirdo: | and a commit. |
| [18:27:26] | skimpydog: | getting the same results |
| [18:27:40] | skimpydog: | RewriteBase /secret.cake/mythweb/ |
| [18:27:41] | skimpydog: | RewriteRule ^(css|data|images|js|themes|skins|README|INSTALL|[a-z_]+\.(php|pl))(/|$) – [L] |
| [18:27:41] | skimpydog: | RewriteRule ^(pl(/.*)?)$ mythweb.pl?PATH_INFO=/$1 [L,QSA] |
| [18:27:41] | skimpydog: | RewriteRule ^(.+)$ mythweb.php?PATH_INFO=/$1 [L,QSA] |
| [18:28:01] | Beirdo: | so, on Monday, I should have the case, mobo, etc. Maybe Tuesday my order from Monoprice with some other cabling... And the DVD-RW maybe Wednesday |
| [18:28:05] | skimpydog: | that's what's currently being used for the rewrite rules, and it is on in the main .conf |
| [18:28:28] | Beirdo: | skimpydog: please use a pastebin if pasting more than one or maybe two lines |
| [18:28:33] | skimpydog: | np |
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| [18:39:42] | high-rez: | Wow, there's something very off playing music on my setup. Sounds like everything is going through a distortion pedal :) |
| [18:40:09] | high-rez: | And exiting mythmusic I get: 2010-09–18 11:38:58.120 Failed to create OpenGL texture. – and the frontend becomes unresponsive (trunk) |
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| [18:49:58] | high-rez: | Odd that recorded programs, livetv all works fine (PCM out and DD out) – but my mythmusic stuff is all terribly distorted :( |
| [18:55:57] | kisak: | did you find out what the behavior is with the QT4 renderer? |
| [18:56:14] | Beirdo: | K, the USB->SATA converter works |
| [18:56:15] | high-rez: | *blink* – that to me ? |
| [18:56:21] | kisak: | high-rez: yup |
| [18:56:28] | high-rez: | I could give her a try |
| [18:57:27] | high-rez: | I just upgraded everything to trunk r26363 last night – everything was fine with another trunk rev from a couple weeks ago. |
| [18:57:33] | high-rez: | Let me change the renderer though to see :) |
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| [18:59:39] | high-rez: | Instant exit with QT renderer |
| [19:03:30] | skimpydog: | my problem was that I had the rewrite rules and the initial options that are built into the mythweb,conf defined 2 times. the other was in the .include file for my main vhost container |
| [19:03:35] | skimpydog: | thank you for your assistance |
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| [19:09:32] | Gibby_away: | so for my main tv watcing room, i have a 55"... I have an older 5.1 surround sound that does not have optical in, so i only get 5.1 when watchinga dvd... I need to upgrade the recieve would like to stay around $100... any recommendations? |
| [19:14:50] | sphery: | skd5aner: notes are looking good... would be great if the contents could be made collapsible, but I don't know if MW does that |
| [19:22:19] | sphery: | or maybe a ToC limit of 2 would work |
| [19:23:26] | skd5aner: | sphery: thanks |
| [19:23:44] | wagnerrp: | there are extensions that support that kind of thing, but not the base code |
| [19:23:50] | sphery: | can't seem to make the toclimit work--I don't know MW |
| [19:23:51] | skd5aner: | sphery: I plan to do an expand/collapse probably for the next releases page |
| [19:24:16] | skd5aner: | I'll take a look at the TOC limit stuff as well |
| [19:24:18] | sphery: | wagnerrp: yeah, I was trying to see if I could borrow the template from http://heroeswiki.com/Template:Toclimit |
| [19:24:37] | sphery: | but don't know how to get to it |
| [19:24:58] | sphery: | anyway, probably best if I don't break the page :) |
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| [19:27:50] | skd5aner: | sphery: lol, I put apache instead of php didn't I? |
| [19:27:54] | skd5aner: | oh brother |
| [19:28:14] | ** Beirdo yawns ** | |
| [19:28:54] | sphery: | skd5aner: yeah, but Apache 5.3 probably won't be out for another 50+ years, I figured we should remove that requirement. |
| [19:29:25] | Beirdo: | heheh |
| [19:29:28] | Beirdo: | nice |
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| [19:31:49] | sphery: | I'd love to see the dcraw executable requirement replaced with libraw, but unfortunately, I don't have raw images and, therefore, I'm happy just using --disable-dcraw . |
| [19:32:11] | Beirdo: | there is no library version of dcraw |
| [19:32:13] | skd5aner: | sphery: I'm working on the TOC limit now, should have it done shorlty – good idea |
| [19:32:25] | sphery: | Beirdo: http://www.libraw.org/ |
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| [19:32:42] | sphery: | LibRaw is based on the source codes of the dcraw utility, where part of drawbacks have already been eliminated and part will be fixed in future. The users of the library are provided with API to be built into their software programs. |
| [19:32:59] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [19:33:04] | Beirdo: | and not in any distro |
| [19:33:04] | sphery: | not that it's an important change |
| [19:33:14] | Beirdo: | I think we'll stick with dcraw for the time being |
| [19:33:16] | sphery: | like I always say, "If you use it, they will build it" |
| [19:33:47] | Beirdo: | but yeah, that does look promising :) |
| [19:33:59] | Beirdo: | it looks like it was done RIGHT |
| [19:34:17] | Beirdo: | as opposed to dcraw which is craptacular code that happens to work |
| [19:34:20] | sphery: | there was a comparison of it and dcraw somewhere on the site, and it seems to be /much/ more capable now |
| [19:34:52] | sphery: | (so the "in the future" is more the "fixing the quirks" than supporting features) |
| [19:35:12] | sphery: | anyway, it's a good one for someone's rainy-day list |
| [19:35:22] | Beirdo: | yeah. I like the direction it seems to be taking |
| [19:35:40] | Beirdo: | but I'm loathe to add another library sucked into the code unless we need to |
| [19:35:55] | sphery: | so, start seeding the various distro forums to get packages built, and it will be all ready for us when we switch :) |
| [19:36:11] | Beirdo: | so let's give it some time to solidify and get into distros, and we should be good in a bit :) |
| [19:36:50] | sphery: | Cool new library! Just found this on the net, and I think it definitely needs to go into <insert repo name>! |
| [19:37:07] | Beirdo: | I can't stand forums though |
| [19:37:10] | sphery: | yeah |
| [19:37:15] | sphery: | that makes 2 of us |
| [19:37:30] | Beirdo: | I'm too old for that crap :) |
| [19:37:31] | wagnerrp: | sphery: i thought you were looking for something which had a javascript-expandable TOC, collapsed by default |
| [19:37:35] | sphery: | why should I have to dig to find the things people say.... It should just come to me |
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| [19:38:01] | sphery: | wagnerrp: either approach works for me... figured the limit would be easier to get. |
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| [19:38:40] | Beirdo: | and it's LGPL 2.1 so it is compatible license-wise, AFAIK |
| [19:38:46] | sphery: | Beirdo: if we do need to pull in our own copy of the lib, libraw-lite may be sufficient (not that I could say for sure: http://www.libraw.su/docs/API-notes-rus.html#versions ) |
| [19:39:04] | Beirdo: | heh |
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| [19:39:25] | Beirdo: | I don't wanna deal with merging in their changes, etc |
| [19:39:32] | sphery: | yeah |
| [19:39:45] | sphery: | using system libs would be best--assuming a relatively-stable API |
| [19:39:54] | Beirdo: | yup |
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| [19:40:07] | sphery: | but merging isn't too difficult if we don't have any local changes |
| [19:40:09] | sphery: | plus, git :) |
| [19:40:15] | Beirdo: | yeah :) |
| [19:40:17] | Beirdo: | and yeah |
| [19:40:24] | Beirdo: | I have it bookmarked |
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| [19:40:40] | Beirdo: | I'll take a better look during down times in 0.25 |
| [19:40:52] | sphery: | yeah, definitely not worth doing now |
| [19:41:01] | Beirdo: | too late for 0.24 anyways :) |
| [19:41:02] | sphery: | like I said, I don't need raw image support, so... |
| [19:41:08] | Beirdo: | I don't... yet |
| [19:41:19] | Beirdo: | but after I have a new digital camera, I might |
| [19:41:48] | sphery: | Oooh. You should definitely get one. Then you'll be more-highly motivated :) |
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| [19:42:30] | stuartm: | the dcraw dev is an idiot |
| [19:42:36] | sphery: | the big annoyance with it is that its name is similar to (and easy for users to confuse with) libraw1394 |
| [19:42:53] | Beirdo: | stuartm: totally agreed |
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| [19:43:08] | sphery: | IIRC, dcraw seemed to be done by a guy who does Windows dev, right? |
| [19:43:14] | Beirdo: | he won't make a library/threadsafe because then he can't use global variables |
| [19:43:46] | Beirdo: | so don't do something the right way because it conflicts with your bad coding practise? |
| [19:43:49] | Beirdo: | nice |
| [19:44:00] | sphery: | heh |
| [19:44:06] | skd5aner: | hmmm, ToC limit isn't working for me either :/ |
| [19:44:21] | skd5aner: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Template:TOC_limit |
| [19:44:22] | sphery: | skd5aner: yeah, seems we don't have that template... |
| [19:44:26] | Beirdo: | so yah, libraw does look promising, in spite of the somewhat confusing name |
| [19:44:28] | skd5aner: | I created it |
| [19:44:39] | wagnerrp: | how do globals prevent you from using threads? |
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| [19:45:04] | wagnerrp: | or is he doing something stupid like defining more than static data in globals? |
| [19:45:09] | skd5aner: | I based it off of that original site, but also off of MW's own implementation of the template |
| [19:45:11] | Beirdo: | wagnerrp: because each thread expects to be able to change variables as if they are they only user |
| [19:45:23] | skd5aner: | sphery: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tem . . . ;action=edit |
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| [19:45:35] | Beirdo: | the code is crappy |
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| [19:45:42] | skd5aner: | it actually "works" because it places the TOC, but it doesn't do the limit |
| [19:45:44] | skd5aner: | hrmmm |
| [19:45:47] | sphery: | skd5aner: I don't know anything about creating templates... wagnerrp has done it before |
| [19:45:59] | ** wagnerrp hides ** | |
| [19:46:02] | sphery: | wagnerrp: speaking of your MW prowess, has anyone gotten you privs, yet? |
| [19:46:10] | Beirdo: | globals should be only stuff that's shared between threads, and written by none (unless protected by mutexes) |
| [19:46:10] | wagnerrp: | nope |
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| [19:46:16] | sphery: | maybe we can con stuartm into doing it if he has the keys? |
| [19:46:22] | stuartm: | I don't |
| [19:46:41] | wagnerrp: | only bureaucrats do |
| [19:46:43] | sphery: | :( |
| [19:46:44] | stuartm: | only xris, Chutt and Kevin do |
| [19:47:28] | stuartm: | and I don't want to bother Chutt, Kevin hasn't been active for a while and xris hasn't responded to multiple requests |
| [19:47:35] | stuartm: | !salmon xris |
| [19:47:35] | ** MythLogBot plants a salmon upside the head of xris on behalf of stuartm... ** | |
| [19:47:42] | sphery: | heh |
| [19:48:03] | skd5aner: | sphery: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:TOC_limit &nd ash; lots of people complaing about it not working there, reading through it now |
| [19:48:29] | skd5aner: | ahhhh |
| [19:48:30] | skd5aner: | I see |
| [19:48:32] | sphery: | skd5aner: thanks... You don't have to worry too much about this, though. It's not that big a deal--just thought it would make the ToC a bit more useful |
| [19:48:33] | skd5aner: | it's not in the CSS |
| [19:48:38] | sphery: | ahhh |
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| [19:49:01] | skd5aner: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css |
| [19:49:02] | skd5aner: | bingo |
| [19:49:07] | skd5aner: | I'll add it there, and it'll work :) |
| [19:49:26] | skd5aner: | or, actually... |
| [19:49:27] | skd5aner: | I wont |
| [19:49:33] | skd5aner: | since it must take admin rights |
| [19:50:22] | stuartm: | sphery: technically I could give myself bureaucrat privs as I have root on the server, but I'd rather do this officially than abuse my root privs |
| [19:50:48] | xris: | stuartm: huh? |
| [19:51:00] | wagnerrp: | pretty sure the #if stuff only works if youve got an extension enabled |
| [19:51:41] | kisak: | hi xris, still looking after mythweb? |
| [19:51:45] | skd5aner: | well, I asked in #mythtv, if anyone would be so kind as to make those changes I'd greatly appreciate it :) |
| [19:52:04] | xris: | kisak: kormoc more than me lately, but yes |
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| [19:54:10] | wagnerrp: | skd5aner: do those need to be categories? |
| [19:54:17] | skd5aner: | xris: would hat be something you could do for me? |
| [19:54:18] | iamlindoro: | stuartm, I'm also still waiting on the MythTV wiki skin to be added, but I've given up on that |
| [19:54:27] | wagnerrp: | couldnt you just manually bold them, or set them to some other text type? |
| [19:55:07] | skd5aner: | wagnerrp: I suppose I could, but honestly was just easier to do it this way, and if TOC Limit could work then it would eliminate the issue |
| [19:55:08] | wagnerrp: | and that '#if' only works if youve got the ParserFunctions extension installed |
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| [19:55:58] | wagnerrp: | skd5aner: just '''text''' it |
| [19:56:12] | sphery: | so, sounds like we need to get xris to give iamlindoro, wagnerrp, and stuartm the right wiki privs |
| [19:56:29] | skd5aner: | wagnerrp: the #if part is commented out, it's the line above |
| [19:56:32] | skd5aner: | that matters |
| [19:56:40] | xris: | huh, thought I had already done that months ago |
| [19:56:41] | xris: | hang on |
| [19:57:05] | xris: | you talking about admin privs, or write access to the code? |
| [19:57:06] | iamlindoro: | I already have enough access to delete and ban, which is fine for me |
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| [19:57:25] | iamlindoro: | I did do a MythTV wiki skin months ago that makes the wiki look like the web page, though |
| [19:57:51] | skd5aner: | wagnerrp: deleted the commented out line, it was from another site's implementation of the template, but I mirrored WMs |
| [19:57:55] | skd5aner: | I mean MWs :) |
| [19:58:07] | skd5aner: | iamlindoro: cool! |
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| [19:58:43] | xris: | wagnerrp: + admin |
| [19:58:46] | iamlindoro: | http://www.fecitfacta.com/wiki.png |
| [19:59:04] | xris: | don't know stuartm's wiki username |
| [19:59:26] | skd5aner: | Gbee |
| [19:59:32] | wagnerrp: | GBee |
| [20:00:43] | skd5aner: | wagnerrp: either way, would be nice to have the TOC Limit in rather than rely on manual font attribute manipulation if people wanted to use the template :) |
| [20:00:47] | xris: | ahh, case sensitive |
| [20:00:52] | xris: | he's already admin |
| [20:00:56] | wagnerrp: | fair enough |
| [20:01:00] | Beirdo: | iamlindoro: I like. |
| [20:01:13] | sid3windr: | lol@search term |
| [20:01:13] | wagnerrp: | xris: i think the request was to make him a bureaucrat |
| [20:01:22] | sphery: | should he be a bureaucrat? |
| [20:01:24] | xris: | ah. I figured that was lesser. :) |
| [20:01:29] | stuartm: | xris: yeah I'm already an admin, but admin's can't change user privs, hence why I was calling on you |
| [20:01:39] | stuartm: | s/admin/sysop/ |
| [20:01:49] | xris: | ok, done for all 3 |
| [20:01:54] | sphery: | even an admin can't get past the bureaucracy |
| [20:02:02] | skd5aner: | I'll go ahead and request some priv too please :D |
| [20:02:02] | wagnerrp: | considering he has root on the box, and can make himself bureaucrat any time he pleases anyway... |
| [20:02:04] | skd5aner: | j/k ;) |
| [20:02:29] | stuartm: | I don't need to be a bureaucrat, but it would avoid me pestering you for this stuff in future |
| [20:02:51] | wagnerrp: | so, i guess these ops rights come with the responsibility to clear out all my cruft? :P |
| [20:03:04] | stuartm: | I think the only only thing sysops can't do is manage user permissions |
| [20:03:10] | xris: | stuartm: which would be useful on days when kormoc and I are both at his house getting plastered on good beer |
| [20:03:27] | stuartm: | wagnerrp: uh-huh, why do you think I was trying to get you some privs in future? |
| [20:03:29] | wagnerrp: | heard you make your own of that stuff? |
| [20:03:53] | Beirdo: | mmmm, beer |
| [20:04:05] | stuartm: | xris: even kormoc doesn't have bureaucrat perms, it was just you Isaac and Kevin Khupal |
| [20:04:25] | stuartm: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki?title=Special:List . . . p=bureaucrat |
| [20:04:44] | stuartm: | vs Admins – http://www.mythtv.org/wiki?title=Special:List . . . ;group=sysop |
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| [20:05:01] | Beirdo: | beeraucrats |
| [20:05:05] | skd5aner: | so now that we have an abundance of sysops – anyone willing to add those items to the MediaWiki:Common.css file? :D |
| [20:05:35] | stuartm: | skd5aner: can that be edited through the wiki itself? |
| [20:06:02] | stuartm: | apparently yes, http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css |
| [20:06:09] | skd5aner: | stuartm: I BELEIVE so... based on what I've seen |
| [20:06:22] | skd5aner: | yea – posted the relavent links in #mythtv |
| [20:06:22] | ** stuartm puts away his ssh credentials ** | |
| [20:06:38] | wagnerrp: | aww... i hate politics |
| [20:06:56] | xris: | stuartm: wow.. and I had to beg for them recently |
| [20:07:08] | wagnerrp: | xris: thanks |
| [20:07:09] | xris: | though that was before isaac told me to take over all of mythtv.. heh |
| [20:07:48] | xris: | I still don't have the admin pw for the commits mailing list |
| [20:07:52] | xris: | I should just go and reset it in the db |
| [20:08:10] | skd5aner: | take over all of mythtv? |
| [20:08:22] | wagnerrp: | as in full server access to everything |
| [20:08:22] | stuartm: | xris: really? I've had sudo on all virts/alcor for a while, officially because we needed someone on this side of the world to restart servers if necessary |
| [20:08:26] | ** skd5aner tilts his head ** | |
| [20:09:01] | xris: | stuartm: I had to beg snow-man to install sudo.. he doesn't trust it. |
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| [20:09:19] | xris: | but that's different than knowing the mailman passwords |
| [20:09:20] | ** dustybin blinks ** | |
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| [20:09:35] | xris: | I know the superuser password for all of mailman, but for some reason it's not working on the commits list |
| [20:09:43] | Beirdo: | odd |
| [20:10:06] | stuartm: | xris: huh, well that had to be a while back, because I've been using it on the server for at least a year |
| [20:10:09] | xris: | dustybin: some old school SAs don't trust sudo because it was buggy in its early days |
| [20:10:15] | xris: | stuartm: yeah, it was quite awhile ago |
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| [20:10:30] | xris: | but.. anything's better than giving the root pw out to everyone. |
| [20:10:37] | stuartm: | xris: aye |
| [20:10:54] | ** Beirdo shakes his fist at amazon. Ship te DVD-RW drive already! ** | |
| [20:10:56] | xris: | I try my best never to know any root passwords |
| [20:11:12] | dustybin: | ? |
| [20:11:15] | Beirdo: | probably a good choice |
| [20:11:30] | stuartm: | strange as it might seem, until recently I never thought to try 'sudo su' to gain proper root instead of having to repeatedly type sudo each time, surprised that it works |
| [20:11:47] | skd5aner: | stuartm: sudo -i |
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| [20:12:03] | sphery: | No one knows root passwords on my (personal) boxes. I have a script that changes them in a daily cron. |
| [20:12:24] | skd5aner: | stuartm: that'll set you up with a root session until you "exit" |
| [20:12:25] | sphery: | (and don't have unset root passwords, because I do want to be able to ksu -a -l or sudo -i) |
| [20:12:36] | stuartm: | skd5aner: thanks, good to know |
| [20:13:10] | sphery: | stuartm: IMHO, on a properly-compiled sudo, it wouldn't work to sudo su :) |
| [20:13:34] | stuartm: | sudo is still a relative mystery to me, I'm not an ubuntu user so I was used to escalating to root directly |
| [20:13:48] | high-rez: | *blink* |
| [20:13:53] | Beirdo: | stuartm: sudo bash is a fairly common command line for me :) |
| [20:14:06] | skd5aner: | heh |
| [20:14:10] | high-rez: | stuartm: Never worked in big companies with massive control over root ? |
| [20:14:52] | tgm4883: | another company does the same sort of thing, only they call it dzdo instead of sudo |
| [20:14:55] | high-rez: | I've used powerbroker a lot – which is like a distributed management version of sudo in some really big *nix envs |
| [20:14:58] | stuartm: | high-rez: no :) |
| [20:15:00] | sphery: | sudo -i has the benefit of doing a login shell for root, so you get proper PATH, etc |
| [20:15:00] | tgm4883: | i've seen that in customers RHEL environments |
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| [20:15:41] | sphery: | versus sudo -s (which is just a shell) |
| [20:16:55] | high-rez: | sudo, in my opinion, is a very food thing... I never give out root passwords anymore. If it had a distributed central management and logging like powerbroker it would be killer. |
| [20:17:17] | sphery: | kerberos ftw! |
| [20:17:19] | high-rez: | s/food/good |
| [20:17:39] | sphery: | though it doesn't allow fine-grained control over which commands a user can execute |
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| [20:18:28] | high-rez: | I've never even seen a deployment of kerberos – and if lacks fine-grained control it seems a little pointless :) |
| [20:19:09] | sphery: | it's really an authentication service, not an authorization service |
| [20:19:19] | high-rez: | yp/nis replacement? |
| [20:19:22] | sphery: | so kerberos + some authorization is good |
| [20:19:59] | sphery: | but then again, MS is using Kerber-almost, so you've likely seen it (in some form :) |
| [20:20:24] | high-rez: | i thought they were using a renamed version of ldap for all that :) |
| [20:21:17] | sphery: | Active Directory = LDAP, and in domains, MS uses AD + Kerber-almost (Kerberos--extended to use a reserved field for their own benefit) |
| [20:21:32] | sphery: | at least, that's my understanding |
| [20:21:37] | high-rez: | Interesting |
| [20:21:43] | sphery: | (and I fully admit to being clueless on WIndows stuff) |
| [20:22:12] | high-rez: | I've never really tried to understand how the windows admin stuff works. Its a field where you compete with a /ton/ of people and the pay is considerably less ;) |
| [20:22:35] | sphery: | and ever couple of years, you have to re-learn everything from scratch |
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| [20:23:24] | high-rez: | Last time I did windows admin work was NT 3.51/NT4.0 when I was like 16 yrs old. :D I actually think in some ways windows is gotten worse since then (I though 3.51 was actually pretty solid). |
| [20:24:00] | sphery: | but they have PowerShell now (just like Super Mario Kart) |
| [20:24:23] | wagnerrp: | huh... |
| [20:24:31] | wagnerrp: | the page was already there, why did it create a new one |
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| [20:24:38] | stuartm: | and this is why I'm not a sysadmin, this stuff could put me to sleep |
| [20:24:47] | sphery: | agreed |
| [20:25:30] | high-rez: | I kinda miss being a sysadmin. I do platform management – which means I never get to touch any of the platforms. |
| [20:26:01] | wagnerrp: | skd5aner: still around? |
| [20:26:12] | stuartm: | high-rez: one thing, when you said 'logging like powerbroker' what did you mean? |
| [20:26:14] | high-rez: | 'Vendor implement X.' 'Tester test X.' 'Admins implement X.' – my job in the process is documenting everything. |
| [20:27:00] | high-rez: | stuartm: Basically when you get into a powerbroker shell (maybe sudo can do this now), you can have it log everything sent/received. E.g. if an admin does something stupid, or malicious – its all right there logged centrally. |
| [20:27:57] | stuartm: | high-rez: ok, I asked because sudo does the same, or at least it logs every command you run |
| [20:28:07] | sphery: | but not when you do sudo -i :) |
| [20:28:14] | sphery: | (only the sudo -i gets logged) |
| [20:28:16] | wagnerrp: | nevermind, i guess since there is no protect tab, its not normally visible, or at least not editable |
| [20:28:50] | high-rez: | startm: Even if the admin does rm -rf / – you've got it logged. I suppose if they down the network interface it wouldn't be logged, but our admins don't have physical access to machines – so they'd have to do that from serial consoles which are also logged ;) |
| [20:28:59] | stuartm: | sphery: ah, interesting, that undermines it's usefulness a little |
| [20:29:26] | stuartm: | Sep 18 17:44:32 : gbee : HOST=scafell : TTY=pts/2 ; PWD=/home/gbee/Download/mythplugins ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/usr/bin/make install |
| [20:29:29] | high-rez: | pb's logging is like if you script a session |
| [20:29:53] | high-rez: | thats like syslog loggin, this is more like a scripted session |
| [20:30:02] | high-rez: | E.g. from shell – do script blah.log |
| [20:30:09] | high-rez: | do al your admin stuff then type exit |
| [20:30:37] | stuartm: | right |
| [20:31:13] | high-rez: | You can configure it to repeat back stuff that doesn't get echo'd to console but is typed (e.g. password entry) or not. |
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| [20:31:52] | high-rez: | Logging individual commands through syslog isn't as useful. If I want to go back and say 'what happened on this node at X' i can go look to see who was executing commands and exactly what was typed. |
| [20:33:25] | high-rez: | I could be totally offbase, but powershell looks ugly |
| [20:34:32] | high-rez: | looks like a kludge of vbscript,sql, and dos ;) |
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| [20:36:49] | skd5aner: | wagnerrp: back now |
| [20:38:08] | skd5aner: | sphery: I'm a big Kerberos guy |
| [20:38:24] | jams: | high-rez- it is ugly |
| [20:38:41] | jams: | but it's still better then cmd |
| [20:38:48] | skd5aner: | wagnerrp: what were you referingto? |
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| [20:39:48] | dustybin: | do you guys control mythtv via telnet quite often |
| [20:40:09] | high-rez: | jams: Sometimes microsoft seems to do things just because of "Not Invented Here" (i actually heard that statement while there) |
| [20:40:33] | high-rez: | dustybin: I do – when testing remotely :) |
| [20:40:52] | jams: | agreed |
| [20:41:00] | dustybin: | imagine you could list the tv guide and set recordings via telnet |
| [20:41:52] | dustybin: | setrecord BBC1 8PM EASTENDERS |
| [20:41:54] | dustybin: | ok. |
| [20:42:03] | high-rez: | jams: Its a real shame, because some of their core technologies aren't bad – but they often take a backwards approach so that they don't look like they're taking the unix approach. "This is a new fresh approach" – "We dont want to implement something that looks like unix". |
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| [20:43:17] | skd5aner: | stuartm: were you able to edit the MediaWiki:Common.css page? |
| [20:43:18] | stuartm: | high-rez: they don't want people to stop and ask why they are not using *nix to start with |
| [20:43:29] | stuartm: | stuartm: I assumed wagnerrp was going to do it |
| [20:43:38] | stuartm: | skd5aner: stupid autocomplete |
| [20:43:51] | skd5aner: | oh, no problem |
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| [20:44:56] | skd5aner: | heh, talking to yourself again |
| [20:45:08] | skd5aner: | was the good stuartm or evil stuartm? |
| [20:45:12] | skd5aner: | s/the/that |
| [20:45:56] | high-rez: | startm: I think they're comfortable in the markets where they're entrenched – but that stuff isn't going to be around forever. I almost think that there is an effort to break knowledge compatability so that people can't recycle admins. Instead of embracing an extending (which worked pretty well for a while) I think they have gone to 'be different than – so knowledge cant be transfered'. With the idea that admins who are used to one way would never |
| [20:46:49] | skd5aner: | stuartm, wagnerrp: Well, I'm going to head out for the evening. I've already included the TOC_Limit template on the release notes page, so whenever the CSS change is made, it'll automatically take effect |
| [20:46:53] | skd5aner: | thanks! |
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| [20:47:14] | high-rez: | For a lot of us who live in their backyard, even if we dont like their products, its scary to see them make bad long term decisions. A /lot/ of the people I work with are afraid of the area becoming a technology detroit. :) |
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| [20:48:30] | high-rez: | And for the argument that they're super profitable so everyone just shutup. The big three american car makers were raking in money before they crashed and burned both times. |
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| [20:54:56] | smithna: | I recently upgraded my svn install and seem to have broken mirobridge... Specific error I get is — Python Backend Connection: Backend has version 62, and we speak 59. I'm guessing I failed to update something, just not sure what |
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| [20:56:45] | sphery: | smithna: sounds like you didn't notice the configure output that said that you're missing python prerequisites so the pythong bindings wouldn't be installed |
| [20:56:49] | sphery: | so you're using hte old one |
| [20:56:56] | high-rez: | What's microbridge? |
| [20:57:00] | sphery: | mirobridge |
| [20:57:05] | ** high-rez is lost ** | |
| [20:57:15] | sphery: | http://www.getmiro.com/ |
| [20:57:17] | high-rez: | This is clearly something I need, or not. |
| [20:57:20] | ** smithna will check ** | |
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| [20:57:27] | sphery: | puts shows from Miro into Watch Recordings |
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| [20:58:12] | high-rez: | Huh |
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| [20:58:23] | high-rez: | That's neat I guess. |
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| [20:59:44] | smithna: | from configure: bindings_perl yes, bindings_python yes |
| [21:00:15] | sphery: | TTBOMK, it something that eventually will be superseded by MythNetvision, but currently, MNV doesn't handle Miro stuff |
| [21:00:49] | sphery: | smithna: then 2 python bindings installs? |
| [21:01:22] | sphery: | smithna: see, also, this thread: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/452030#452030 |
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| [21:11:45] | [R]: | Intel threatened legal action Friday against anybody who uses its proprietary crypto key leaked on the internet to produce hardware that defeats the so-called HDCP technology that limits home recording of digital television and Blu-ray. |
| [21:11:46] | [R]: | HAHA |
| [21:12:14] | [R]: | wouldn't it turn into the same situation as like the legal status of CSS? |
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| [21:14:33] | sphery: | they should threaten legal action |
| [21:14:35] | stuartm: | they have to huff and puff, it's what their clients would want, Intel aren't stupid, they know the cat is out of the bag |
| [21:15:16] | sphery: | key found or not has nothing to do with the license to use HDCP |
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| [21:16:41] | [R]: | didnt' some judge in europe rule once that css isn't illegal because its common knowledge or something like htat |
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| [21:17:41] | [R]: | “Someone has used mathematics and computers to be able to work back to what the master key is,” he said, declining to elaborate. |
| [21:17:41] | [R]: | Read More http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/09/inte . . . xzz0zuzbYKI0 |
| [21:17:43] | [R]: | lol |
| [21:17:48] | [R]: | omg... i really hate when pastes include the url |
| [21:17:51] | [R]: | evil evil websites |
| [21:18:26] | smithna: | sphery: the thread seems to describe my problem |
| [21:18:51] | smithna: | What I don't get is how to fix it. |
| [21:19:41] | sphery: | if you do have 2 copies installed, you need to get rid of one |
| [21:20:53] | smithna: | Yes, I had multipe copies (of MythTV.pm) which I cleaned up and I used the python setup.py script (from the thread) to clean up and reinstall the python parts. But now mirobridge can't find the module at all |
| [21:21:45] | smithna: | My impression from the thread is that the configure script was updated/changed by request and it is causing a little pain for some of us... |
| [21:22:13] | sphery: | that change only affects the Perl bindings |
| [21:22:27] | sphery: | Python bindings install location hasn't changed, TTBOMK |
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| [21:22:45] | sphery: | (i.e. mine are still installed in /usr, even though I use prefix of /usr/local for MythTV |
| [21:23:12] | sphery: | I don't think MiroBridge uses the Perl bindings at all |
| [21:23:52] | RDV_Linux: | smithna: mirobridge ONLY uses python bindings |
| [21:23:59] | smithna: | Ok |
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| [21:25:07] | sphery: | I'm guessing that your just moving the python stuff put it in a location that Python's not checking |
| [21:25:18] | sphery: | which is why it can't find the bindings, now |
| [21:25:35] | sphery: | so you may want to undo what you did and put them back in the same place and verify that they're actually installing |
| [21:26:18] | smithna: | yeah, I noted you said you have yours in /usr/ not /usr/local/ — which is where I just moved it too... |
| [21:26:28] | smithna: | time to move it back |
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| [21:44:59] | kisak: | what's the default bitrate for the Autodetect from MPEG2 transcoder? |
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| [21:56:12] | smithna: | Thanks sphery, RDV_Linux — that was it |
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| [22:10:37] | pm-: | hello |
| [22:11:27] | tortho: | Good day, myth is onlly showing me still pictures.... buth from mythweb I can see it actually records video... any hint? |
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| [22:12:56] | pm-: | how do i get my wintv card to show up in /dev/? |
| [22:13:08] | [R]: | pm-: is it supported by linuix? |
| [22:13:14] | [R]: | tortho: still pictures? |
| [22:13:44] | pm-: | [R], yeah hauppage says it is. model 1600 |
| [22:13:54] | tortho: | yes, like screen shot of what it is recording. If I "exit" myth and start it up again I get the next one... |
| [22:14:16] | [R]: | pm-: so follow the instructions on the wiki... |
| [22:14:26] | [R]: | tortho: huh? |
| [22:15:26] | tortho: | I started live tv... and it just gives me a picture of what is on tv at that time.... no video.... |
| [22:15:43] | [R]: | tortho: what is your playbakc profile set to? |
| [22:15:53] | tortho: | normal |
| [22:16:03] | [R]: | set it to slim |
| [22:16:29] | tortho: | it was set to real time cpu... and cpu+ on the profile by default, but I changed it now to try.. |
| [22:16:33] | tortho: | will try |
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| [22:24:24] | tortho: | [R]: Same thing .... got the picture and it then "freezes" |
| [22:24:33] | [R]: | what does the frontend log say |
| [22:25:30] | tortho: | hmmm... have to dig a little.. can only see a backend log |
| [22:40:11] | sphery: | tortho: it's possible frontend log is just going to stdout/stderr |
| [22:40:17] | sphery: | tortho: how are you starting playback? |
| [22:40:33] | tortho: | linuxmce |
| [22:40:44] | sphery: | are any OSDs visible? Could it just be pausing (maybe because of a double button press/send) |
| [22:40:59] | sphery: | I don't know LMCE... |
| [22:41:14] | tortho: | and I cant find any log.... |
| [22:41:22] | tortho: | what is the pause button in myth? |
| [22:41:25] | tortho: | "p"? |
| [22:41:29] | sphery: | usually |
| [22:41:35] | sphery: | that's the default |
| [22:42:13] | tortho: | it looks like it freezes.. caus e"esc" button does not work and I the grey square with the channel name is stuck there as well.. |
| [22:42:57] | sphery: | sounds like broken X or video drivers or something |
| [22:43:01] | tortho: | The other issue I have is that I need to start live tv and hit "esc" like He¤¤"&&/ to avoid the picture to freeze and get to the menu.. |
| [22:43:01] | sphery: | but that's just a guess |
| [22:43:30] | tortho: | hmmm.. continuing the search... |
| [22:44:49] | wagnerrp: | skd5aner: sorry, went out for dinner... looking at it now |
| [22:46:13] | wagnerrp: | oh, seems stuartm already did so |
| [22:53:07] | sphery: | wagnerrp: so on that page, we probably need limit = 3 for some reason? |
| [22:53:43] | wagnerrp: | ? |
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| [22:54:04] | sphery: | with limit = 2 on http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Release_Notes_-_0.24 , it seems to be showing only one heading level |
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| [22:56:22] | wagnerrp: | probably means how many'=' signs you have |
| [22:56:33] | wagnerrp: | since the second level has three |
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| [22:56:49] | sphery: | yeah, or limited to heading levels less than the number specified? |
| [22:57:28] | sphery: | much more usable, now, though without all the sub-sub-sub categories |
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| [23:03:47] | tgm4883: | Is there a way to disable the recording light on the HDPVR? |
| [23:03:54] | sphery: | black tape |
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| [23:03:58] | tgm4883: | software wise, not cutting the wire |
| [23:04:00] | tgm4883: | heh |
| [23:04:08] | tgm4883: | sphery, I figured that would be the option |
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| [23:04:30] | [R]: | tgm4883: yes... but its not supported in linux and it turns off the fan |
| [23:04:43] | tgm4883: | [R], well thats no deal |
| [23:04:46] | wagnerrp: | that thing has a fan? |
| [23:04:51] | tgm4883: | I'll just put some books in front of it |
| [23:04:52] | [R]: | the newer ones have fans |
| [23:05:00] | [R]: | tgm4883: mines in a closet |
| [23:05:03] | [R]: | tgm4883: where it belongs |
| [23:05:08] | tgm4883: | i'd like mine to be in a closet |
| [23:05:12] | wagnerrp: | [R] ++ |
| [23:05:17] | tgm4883: | but I need to buy a house so I can properly run wires |
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| [23:05:38] | [R]: | wired for ethernet was like the big selling point for me when i bought |
| [23:05:56] | [R]: | although i'm gonna have to drop my own because some moron put the ethernet on the wrong wall in my bedroom |
| [23:06:04] | tgm4883: | yep, thats what i'm looking for |
| [23:06:27] | wagnerrp: | i wonder how long it will be before 'wired for multimode' becomes important |
| [23:06:36] | tgm4883: | multimode? |
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| [23:06:46] | tgm4883: | i'd just like ethernet everywhere |
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| [23:06:53] | wagnerrp: | short distance fiber runs |
| [23:06:56] | tgm4883: | ah |
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| [23:08:05] | [R]: | isn't it spelled fibre? |
| [23:08:07] | wagnerrp: | its a lot cheaper to buy and use than single mode, but its only good for short distances (of several times that of ethernet) |
| [23:08:15] | wagnerrp: | only if your british |
| [23:08:21] | wagnerrp: | youre |
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| [23:08:33] | [R]: | lol |
| [23:09:04] | wagnerrp: | to be honest, i dont know why you wouldnt build a new house with fiber run everywhere |
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| [23:09:13] | wagnerrp: | i dont know why you wouldnt have done it 10 years ago |
| [23:10:03] | wagnerrp: | sure, no one is using it, but who's to say 20 years from now, it wont be the standard interconnect |
| [23:11:31] | [R]: | whos to say in 20 years from now everything won't be wireless? |
| [23:11:46] | wagnerrp: | the laws of physica |
| [23:11:48] | wagnerrp: | physics |
| [23:12:11] | [R]: | rofl |
| [23:12:15] | [R]: | which law? |
| [23:12:54] | wagnerrp: | the ones dealing with usable data transmission |
| [23:13:11] | wagnerrp: | and signal propagation |
| [23:15:16] | [R]: | blah |
| [23:15:28] | [R]: | whos to say in 20 years from now everything we know about physics is proved wrong? |
| [23:15:34] | [R]: | boo ya |
| [23:17:20] | wagnerrp: | i do, now quit yapping about wireless and run those wires... :P |
| [23:17:40] | [R]: | lol |
| [23:17:52] | [R]: | the navy does email over HF |
| [23:17:56] | [R]: | isn't that the coolest thing ever? |
| [23:18:24] | wagnerrp: | ? |
| [23:18:34] | [R]: | hf radio |
| [23:18:47] | wagnerrp: | you mean ELF? |
| [23:18:51] | [R]: | elf? |
| [23:18:59] | [R]: | no... i mean HF |
| [23:19:10] | wagnerrp: | what good is HF |
| [23:19:23] | wagnerrp: | too low frequency for significant bandwidth |
| [23:19:27] | [R]: | i said email |
| [23:19:30] | wagnerrp: | too high frequency for penetration |
| [23:19:31] | [R]: | not movei downloads |
| [23:19:35] | [R]: | wagnerrp: ship to ship |
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| [23:43:29] | Gibby_2: | is there a way to clear all the stuff in the database for just 1 frontend? |
| [23:45:29] | [R]: | DELETE FROM settings WHERE hostname = "frontendhostname"; |
| [23:46:29] | Gibby_2: | i take that is a mysql command? |
| [23:46:35] | [R]: | yup |
| [23:46:47] | Gibby_2: | hmm ok |
| [23:46:52] | [R]: | just change the identifier |
| [23:46:52] | [R]: | problem solved |
| [23:46:53] | [R]: | no sql mucking needed |
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| [23:48:41] | Gibby_2: | well i can't run that from just a command line |
| [23:49:11] | wagnerrp: | sure you can |
| [23:50:10] | Linkeroo: | echo "delete from settings where hostname = 'frontendhostname'" | mysql -u yourdbuser -pyourdbpassword mythconverg |
| [23:50:23] | Linkeroo: | would be the command line version |
| [23:50:30] | Gibby_2: | ahh ok, let me try that |
| [23:50:45] | Gibby_2: | messed up my keybindings all to hell with xmodmap and crap |
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| [23:54:08] | wagnerrp: | keybindings arent stored in that table |
| [23:54:45] | Gibby_2: | wagnerrp: o :/ |
| [23:59:15] | sphery: | Gibby_2: there's absolutely no benefit to doing so |
| [23:59:57] | sphery: | the settings take up virtually no space at all (less than 8kB of disk space) |
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