Beirdobot, irc.freenode.net

Saturday, September 11th, 2010, 00:03 UTC

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wagnerrp:

this almost makes me want to bother running antivirus software... http://gizmodo.com/5635127

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iamlindoro:

I'd be a lot more scared of Rocky IV Lundgren

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iamlindoro:

Modern Lundgren is just proof that Universal Soldier reanimation is all too real

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wagnerrp:

and the alternative... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6ryQ8N_Lv0

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Beirdo:

it was the heat of the moment

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Beirdo:

yay for Asia concert footage

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kormoc:

wagnerrp, http://www.youtube.com/user/norton#p/c/DD8655 . . . /rdEQ8ahXu6U

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wagnerrp:

that the 2010 version?

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kormoc:

2009

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wagnerrp:

2010 was caterpillar with laser eyes

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kormoc:

oh nice

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wagnerrp:

yeah, thats 2010

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wagnerrp:

remember, its like cars

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wagnerrp:

they release a year ahead of time

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wagnerrp:

go figure...

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kormoc:

I just like the 'The caterpillar in typical caterpillar fashion eats a leaf'

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Beirdo:

sphery: still getting slow startup with innodb, BTW

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sphery:

Beirdo: :(

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Beirdo:

and I'm not gonna chase it tonight

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Beirdo:

I don't think it's the database, but rather some locking/race condition type of thing

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Beirdo:

2010-09–10 19:55:18.464 VidOutVDPAU Error: IsErrored() in ProcessFrame

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Beirdo:

2010-09–10 19:55:18.467 Player(0), Error: AVSync: Unknown error in videoOutput,

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Beirdo:

aborting playback.

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Beirdo:

oh now what the heck is this crap

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Beirdo:

it won't play anything.

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Beirdo:

[2828942.783906] mythfrontend[4159]: segfault at 7f66f809b0d4 ip 00007f66e532ed10 sp 00007fffb78b6d80 error 4 in libvdpau_nvidia.so.195.36.24[7f66e5329000+8c000]

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Beirdo:

not... impressed

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Beirdo:

2010-09–10 20:12:19.767 VDPAU Error: Error at mythrender_vdpau.cpp:1486 (#25, Unknown)

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Beirdo:

2010-09–10 20:12:19.767 VDPAU Error: Failed to create VDPAU device.

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Beirdo:

ummmm

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Beirdo:

I think I'll be power cycling now

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Beirdo:

oh thank GOD

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Beirdo:

for a sec there I thought I fried the video card

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Beirdo:

works fine after a power cycle.

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sphery:

/whois Beirdo\nircname: kormoc, Jr.

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Beirdo:

heheh

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Beirdo:

I was scared for a bit there, yeah

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Beirdo:

and I don't want to try it again!

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Beirdo:

It really didn't like that treatment

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high-rez:

Hmmf

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high-rez:

Is there a known memory leak in trunk ?

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wagnerrp:

do you have evidence of a memory leak in trunk?

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high-rez:

wagnerrp: Over time, mythfrontend keeps consuming more memory. I wasn't sure what it was till I added some swap...

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high-rez:

I'm upto 619megs on mythfrontend – and it was quite a bit less yesterday...

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high-rez:

(it appears linux is just swapping the unused bits)

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wagnerrp:

did you seek through a lot of artwork in mythvideo?

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high-rez:

Nope

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high-rez:

Infact, i haven't used mythvideo at all. LiveTV/Recordings only.

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wagnerrp:

what value is 619?

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high-rez:

*blink* huh?

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high-rez:

Oh

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wagnerrp:

where do you see 619?

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high-rez:

Virtual. 230 resident.

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wagnerrp:

virtual is virtual, not used

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wagnerrp:

youre only using 230MB of memory

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wagnerrp:

plus whatever you have shared

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wagnerrp:

if you actually look at the memory you have listed as 'used' in top, its probably less than the virtual usage of mythfrontend

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wagnerrp:

total used, by the entire system

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Beirdo:

grrrr

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Beirdo:

PBB... "Loading....." nada

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Beirdo:

backend went sideways there

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Beirdo:

not my night

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high-rez:

Hmm.. Yeah, I guess virt doesn't make sense – but resident memory does increase over time.

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iamlindoro:

UDOTROUT

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** Beirdo ups his threadpool from 5 to 20 **

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Beirdo:

iamlindoro: any idea what closure code to use in #8889

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iamlindoro:

Worksforme? That's what I use for unable to reproduce

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Beirdo:

sounds as good as any

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Beirdo:

we need a "Huh?" :)

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achew22:

is 0.24 in feature freeze?

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Beirdo:

yes

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achew22:

is that marked anywhere?

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Beirdo:

yes

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Beirdo:

devel mailing list

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achew22:

Okay, I'll look the rest up

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Beirdo:

Sept 6 email from Chris Pinkham

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achew22:

thank you

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Beirdo:

de nada

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achew22:

there is a bug squashing party tomorrow, huh?

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wagnerrp:

hey, theyre selling an ION system on woot for $60

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wagnerrp:

only good for the next couple minutes

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sphery:

wagnerrp: heh, does it make a good frontend?

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wagnerrp:

yeah, but its limited in what it supports playing

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sphery:

yeah, can't expect a lot out of an ion like that

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achew22:

what was it?

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wagnerrp:

http://www.woot.com/Blog/ViewEntry.aspx?Id=14180

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achew22:

am I missing something? Is that vinyl table a ion computer?

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wagnerrp:

woosh

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achew22:

Ah

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wagnerrp:

every time someone finds a new ION system, they ask in here or on the mailing list, or they cry up to the stars... 'will this make a good mythtv system?'

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achew22:

clearly that would be awful since it has no video output. the joke is that it probably would be worthless to myth (although it might be a really crazy awesome hack). I get it (I hope)

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wagnerrp:

its a RECORD PLAYER

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wagnerrp:

it doesnt run linux, it doesnt play video, it just records off vinyl

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achew22:

exactly, it would require a crazy hack

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wagnerrp:

but its an ION... so its good for mythtv

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wagnerrp:

it wouldnt be a crazy hack either, it would be writing a linux drive, and adding a bit of code to mythmusic to allow ripping off of it

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achew22:

to add video out, it would

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wagnerrp:

as much of a hack as people putting PCs running MAME inside old NES cases

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sphery:

heh, I had a Nova episode that I wasn't interested in watching, so I've kept it for about 2 years. Decided I'd put it on in the background while doing some patching, and found out it was a rerun of one I'd seen, but with the wrong listings info (station changed which aired).

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wagnerrp:

oh look, i hacked my NES to run atari games

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sphery:

So 2 yrs keeping something for no reason (and I had to delete and allow re-record, so I may end up getting it again later)

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wagnerrp:

bathe in my l33t r4dn355

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sphery:

you mean "l33t rn4dn355"

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sphery:

(your "m" was missing a hump :)

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wagnerrp:

m?

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sphery:

in madness

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wagnerrp:

oh, madness

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sphery:

yeah

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wagnerrp:

no, i was going for radness

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sphery:

yeah, see, that just doesn't fit :)

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sphery:

atari on NES is madness

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wagnerrp:

would you rather it emulate your master system?

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sphery:

master system?

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wagnerrp:

original sega

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sphery:

ohhh... I don't know my vintage consoles

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sphery:

(My XB360 is my first)

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Beirdo:

fun night of bug squashage

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Beirdo:

one more compile, then bed

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Gibby:

is this a blaster also? http://cgi.ebay.com/Microsoft-Media-Center-Ke . . . em23096fe4ee

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kormoc:

likely

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Gibby:

guess i will order jsut 1 first

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kormoc:

mine is that model (I believe) and it has dual transmitters

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kormoc:

only way to know is to see the back of it

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Gibby:

well i just ordered my first true front end and i need a ir receiver, now just to pick out a remote

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kormoc:

not every remote will work with that receiver (if it's the same as mine)

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Gibby:

ah ok, any reason not to get this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856173004

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kormoc:

I don't like ion platforms

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kormoc:

they're too costly if you want an optical drive and don't have much cpu power at all

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Gibby:

nope, don

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Gibby:

don't need an optical drive and i am using diskless also

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Gibby:

what do you use?

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kormoc:

I use a mac mini and highly recommend it

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kormoc:

gonna get another one soon

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Gibby:

hmm mac mini... hmmm can i boot a mythbuntu image to it?

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kormoc:

I'd imagine so

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Gibby:

hmmm, i tink i am going to get this remote http://cgi.ebay.com/Microsoft-MCE-Remote-Cont . . . em255ac97d1b

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lapion:

Hi

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lapion:

I cannot enter a filename for import existing scan in the scan-configuration screen

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dustybin:

i thought mac minis didnt have enough video RAM for vdpau to work properly?

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messerting:

Hi, I've got about 1TB worth of TV-recordings that I would like to keep. They stem from 0.21 and 0.22, and include several db updates.

[10:57:00]

messerting:

Now, at 0.23 (from svn) it seems my db is somewhat corrupt.

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messerting:

Is there a way I start out with a clean db, and then import the old recordings?

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messerting:

I know there is this mytharchive, but I don't think I've got 1TB of free space anywhere...

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cesman:

messerting: can you not repair the db?

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justinh:

messerting: I was in the unfortunate position of having a mangled / partition a few months ago. the database was pretty much borked beyond repair BUT I managed to recover the recorded, channel & a couple of other tables just fine on a different machine/install

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justinh:

basically copied /var/lib/mysql to a new install, dumped the tables then inserted them over my most recent mythconverg db backup (the db backups were supposed to happen automagically every day but had been failing for ages)

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justinh:

that's 'dumped the tables' meaning I used mysqldump :-)

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messerting:

justinh: ok, thanks. I'll try mysqldump and do a clean install of the distro. (using preupgrade to climb several releases isn't very smart (fedora))

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Justin511:

Hey can anyone help me get my tv tuner set up?

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Justin511:

I have the Hauppauge PVR-1250 Model 1196

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wagnerrp:

drivers should be included with a modern kernel

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wagnerrp:

no firmware to set up

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wagnerrp:

it should just show up in /dev/dvb

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Justin511:

I don't know what that is sorry

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Justin511:

I'm pretty new to this

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wagnerrp:

add that adapter as a DVB card in mythtv-setup, and follow the rest of the documentation from there

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Justin511:

Okay let me try that

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Justin511:

What is a DVB card?

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wagnerrp:

a card that uses the linux DVB API

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Justin511:

Where is that option?

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wagnerrp:

in mythtv-setup, card setup

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Justin511:

Capture cards?

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Justin511:

Video sources? Input connections?

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wagnerrp:

sounds right

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wagnerrp:

capture cards

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Justin511:

K

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wagnerrp:

do understand that card is digital only

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wagnerrp:

dont expect to use it for analog

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Justin511:

I don't know what that means

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Justin511:

I have a Motorola set top box

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wagnerrp:

wont work

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Justin511:

It worked perfect in Windows Media Center

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Justin511:

How should I set it up then

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wagnerrp:

plug it directly into the cable line

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wagnerrp:

you can receive whatever comes unencrypted from verizon

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Justin511:

Why no box?

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wagnerrp:

because that box outputs analog

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Justin511:

Oh

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wagnerrp:

and that card does not support analog capture

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Justin511:

Why did it work in Windows then?

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wagnerrp:

because hauppauge wrote the drivers for windows, which did support analog capture

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Justin511:

Oh, whats better then?

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wagnerrp:

the linux drivers are 3rd party, and only support digital

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Justin511:

Digital sounds better

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wagnerrp:

however you will only be able to receive those channels verizon broadcasts unencrypted

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Justin511:

Oh, what would they be?

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wagnerrp:

that depends entirely on verizon... see http://www.silicondust.com/support/channels/

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Justin511:

Ok

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Justin511:

So even though I pay for a ton of channels on my regular Verizon FIos

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Justin511:

I only get a few through this?

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wagnerrp:

you can only get those that are unencrypted

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wagnerrp:

that may be few, that may be many

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wagnerrp:

it varies from area to area

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Justin511:

Okay I guess I will find out

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Justin511:

So I unplug my box and plug the coaxial right into my PC

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wagnerrp:

correct

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wagnerrp:

if you want to record off the STB, you will need a card that supports analog on linux

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Justin511:

Would it be TV/Cable Ant or DTV Ant

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wagnerrp:

and preferably one that does mpeg encoding

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Justin511:

or S-Video

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Justin511:

Oh okay, I don't watch enough TV to be buying another card, it came with PC lol

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Justin511:

Right now its in TV/Cable Ant for when I used windows

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Justin511:

do I keep it there or move to DTV Ant

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wagnerrp:

there is only one coaxial input on that card

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Justin511:

?

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Justin511:

Hauppauge Inc. HDPVR-1250 model 1196 (rev 0f)

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wagnerrp:

yep, looking at the picture right now

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wagnerrp:

and i have one in my basement

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Justin511:

Can I see the pic?

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wagnerrp:

http://hauppauge.com/site/products/data_hvr1250.html

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Justin511:

Werid thats not it

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Justin511:

Plus my IR Inputs are at the bottom

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Justin511:

Of my PC

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wagnerrp:

then you must have the MCE version, which is not a model 1196

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Justin511:

The what?

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Justin511:

When I did that thing to find parts thats what came up

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wagnerrp:

no, that still only has one coaxial input

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Justin511:

Here I will copy and paste the output

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Justin511:

*-multimedia

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Justin511:

description: Multimedia video controller

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Justin511:

product: Hauppauge Inc. HDPVR-1250 model 1196

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Justin511:

vendor: Conexant Systems, Inc.

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Justin511:

physical id: 0

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Justin511:

bus info: pci@0000:04:00.0

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Justin511:

version: 0f

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Justin511:

width: 64 bits

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Justin511:

clock: 33MHz

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Justin511:

capabilities: pciexpress pm vpd msi bus_master cap_list

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Justin511:

configuration: driver=cx23885 latency=0

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Justin511:

resources: irq:17 memory:fe800000-fe9fffff

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wagnerrp:

do not paste more than 2 lines in here at a time

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Justin511:

Sorry

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Justin511:

But thats the output

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wagnerrp:

hahah

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wagnerrp:

an HDPVR-1250?

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wagnerrp:

theres no such thing

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Justin511:

:S

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Justin511:

It came built into the PC

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Justin511:

would it help if I showed you the PC

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Justin511:

I have the link where I bought it

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wagnerrp:

the 'HDPVR' is a USB-attached component capture box

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wagnerrp:

it is not a tuner, nor does it have a cx23885 chip

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Justin511:

Its not USB

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Justin511:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13845_3-10144225-58.html

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Justin511:

Thats where I got it

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Justin511:

Altho I have upgraded it since

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Justin511:

NTSC TV tuner, over-the-air ATSC high-definition Digital TV tuner, and FM tunerHP Media Center remote control with IR (infrared) receiver

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Justin511:

wagnerrp?

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wagnerrp:

that actually looks more like this unit... http://hauppauge.com/site/products/data_hvr1800mckit.html

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Justin511:

yeah

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wagnerrp:

based off the back of the card seen here... http://www.newegg.com/Product/ImageGallery.as . . . %2c83-107-70

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wagnerrp:

5–08.jpg%2c83-107-705–18.jpg%2c83-107-705–19.jpg%2c83-107-705& ndash;20.jpg%2c83-107-705–21.jpg&S7ImageFlag=0&WaterMark=1&Ite m=N82E16883107705&Depa=0&Description=HP%20Pavilion%20M9350F%28KQ498AA%29 %20Phenom%20X4%209850%282.5GHz%29%206GB%20DDR2%20750GB%20NVIDIA%20GeForce%209800 %20GT%20Windows%20Vista%20Home%20Premium%2064-bit

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kormoc:

jeeze

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Justin511:

LOL

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Justin511:

Didn't really work

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kormoc:

you have to append both parts of the url together

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Justin511:

But I'm looking at the pic

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Justin511:

And its exactly the same I think

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wagnerrp:

if you have an 1800, then you do have an mpeg encoder, and that card can be used for analog capture

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Justin511:

Well how would I check to make sure

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Justin511:

B/c it looks exactly the same

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wagnerrp:

but there are some outstanding driver issues on that card that prevent mythtv from using analog capture on it

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Justin511:

Aw

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wagnerrp:

to be honest, i would talk to the #linuxtv guys

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Justin511:

Alright, thanks

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wagnerrp:

there seems to be something funky going on with the detection of that card

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wagnerrp:

as i mentioned, there is no such thing as a HDPVR-1250

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Justin511:

Ha then somethings up with my PC

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wagnerrp:

and it seems you dont have either an HDPVR or an HVR-1250 anyway

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Justin511:

Guess not

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wagnerrp:

anyway, on that card, you have separate analog and digital inputs, and an FM input

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Justin511:

Yeah

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wagnerrp:

you would want to use the one marked 'ATSC/QAM'

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Justin511:

FM then TV/Cable then DTV

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Justin511:

I have been using TV/Cable

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Justin511:

None of them say that

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Justin511:

TV/Cable says TV in and DTV says Line in

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Justin511:

wagnerrp?

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Justin511:

(01:30:30 PM) awalls: Check the hg repository at the kernellabs.com site for the cx23885-mpx patches

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Justin511:

Anyone..?

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kormoc:

DTV (Digital TV) would be ATSC/QAM

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Justin511:

Sorry..that means?

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Justin511:

I got to this page:

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Justin511:

http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/How_to_Obta . . . vice_Drivers

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Justin511:

What do I do for Ubuntu?

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Justin511:

Oh I think I see

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