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Thursday, July 15th, 2010, 00:00 UTC

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Captain_Murdoch:

here's a junky flv video of those theme downloader screenshots in action: http://mythtv.bc2va.org/videos/themedownloader_01.html the flash flashes too much. those full-screen previews don't flash inbetween, in full-screen preview mode, you scroll up/down adn see the next one right away.

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Captain_Murdoch:

at the end, I hit ENTER on TransBlue and it's downloaded from the website, installed, and the UI is reloaded.

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wagnerrp:

that looks like poo...

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wagnerrp:

...h

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Captain_Murdoch:

a theme designer could even make the 'fullscreen' preview draw behind the buttonlist if they wanted.

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wagnerrp:

the kids name that computer?

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Captain_Murdoch:

:) that's my wife's machine which I have a virtual desktop running on. flv was made with vnc2flv

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Captain_Murdoch:

other machine names are taz, daffy, etc. :)

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Captain_Murdoch:

one x-files hold-out of 'skinner' for the firewall.

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Captain_Murdoch:

my physical dev system needs to be upgraded before I can run trunk since I only have Qt 4.4 on there and MythDownloadManager made us require 4.5 now. :|

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wagnerrp:

that full screen preview is great

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wagnerrp:

but well definately need some high res preview images

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Captain_Murdoch:

yeah, I need to regen screenshots of the themes before the code is committed as well.

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Captain_Murdoch:

going to regen each at the native resolution of the theme.

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wagnerrp:

maybe allow multiple images in a slideshow?

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Captain_Murdoch:

you mean for a single theme? I thought about that, or having left/right rotate among images for the current theme.

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wagnerrp:

is there any theme storage done by the backend? or is this all a frontend thing?

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Captain_Murdoch:

the FE deals with the themes site directly for themeinfo.xml and preview images since MythUIImage and ThemeInfo can both load files from http:// URIs. when the user selects a theme for download, the FE tells the MBE to download the theme, then the FE copies the them over the myth proto and removes the copy on the MBE. That way the theme is in the MBE's MythDownloadManager cache and another FE can install the same theme with

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Captain_Murdoch:

out having to redownload from the website until the theme package expires from the MBE's cache. current MythDownloadManager cache is the default of 50MB, but that could be bumped up or down as we see fit later.

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Captain_Murdoch:

I thought about having the theme package kept on the MBE, but that would mean having to make our own cache and dealing with cleanup, etc. on that. just downloading it on the MBE causes it to be in the QNetworkDiskCache, so that's letting Qt do the cache work for us.

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Captain_Murdoch:

I also had a preliminary patch to allow theme storage to be on the MBE, so a FE wouldn't even have to download a theme, it could just tell the MBE to install the theme and then use the theme over the myth protocol, but that's not as fast as having the images local since some themes can be big, so I put that patch aside for now and went with just downloading the theme on the MBE to get it in the MBE's cache.

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wagnerrp:

well there should only be a handful of things it has to pull from the backend, and then everything else runs out of the themecache, right?

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wagnerrp:

i would expect it to be a bit slow when starting, but afterward be completely unnoticeable

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Captain_Murdoch:

yeah, once the images are in themecache, they don't have to get redownloaded if they're not modified.

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wagnerrp:

but you still have to check file modification times on the backend?

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Captain_Murdoch:

I still have the patch and it worked nicely. the FE asks the MBE about any themes it has and the FE can then use those themes.

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Captain_Murdoch:

yeah, but we weren't doing that up until recently because it was broken. I reenabled that recently after I moved the main socket into mythcorecontext and fixed remotefile to use that for most of it's file status checks

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Captain_Murdoch:

I kept the patch, but wanted to get the downloader working first. I may reconsider the idea and the downloader would then present the user with 2 options, 1) install locally, 2) install globally on the master backend.

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Captain_Murdoch:

the http lastmodified check is fast since it comes out of the QNetworkDiskCache if the url exists. I need to put in a staleness limit in there though, to check the site if the lastmodified and last fetch date are over 60 seconds old.

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GrahamIRC:

Does anyone know if MythPhone still exists in 0.23 ?

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twor0_zz:

I assume I can skip forward a certain amount within recordings, but can those be recorded and shared with others?

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kormoc:

GrahamIRC, it does not

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kormoc:

twor0_zz, huh?

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GrahamIRC:

oh what happened to it ?

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kormoc:

GrahamIRC, it was unmaintained and there was no one to update it to work with the new UI code

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GrahamIRC:

oh what a shame :-(

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twor0_zz:

kormoc: I can skip adverts with a ff button. Can others benefit from my sharing when I skipped adverts?

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GrahamIRC:

Thanks for the info Kormoc

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kormoc:

twor0_zz, nope

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GrahamIRC:

but you can create a cut list twor0_zz

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wagnerrp:

twor0_zz: sharing that data has been brought up a hundred times in the past, and its just not something that is transferable

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wagnerrp:

different people are going to have slightly different times, and slightly different broadcasts

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J-e-f-f-A:

Captain_Murdoch: It looks really nice... ;-)

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twor0_zz:

Hmm.. Anyway to create a syncronization like using the initial 45 secs of audio?

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twor0_zz:

and a central server.

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kormoc:

twor0_zz, still won't work enmass as my fox station will be different then your fox station, my first commerical break might be 3 minutes 30 seconds when yours is 3 minutes

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twor0_zz:

Darn

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twor0_zz:

are the differences a per network and per region thing?

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kormoc:

twor0_zz, could be both, and could be per showing, simpsons at 8 may have different commercials then the repeat of the same episode at midnight

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kormoc:

twor0_zz, it all depends on who's injecting what commercials when

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twor0_zz:

Seems that a new show would be easier to work with.

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twor0_zz:

everyone records show #1 at the first time it shows up.

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kormoc:

and how would that help later showings?

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kormoc:

you know there's a break say 5 minutes in, but you don't know how long it'll be on future showings

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kormoc:

could be none at all

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kormoc:

this is why we commflag automatically :)

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twor0_zz:

commflag?

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kormoc:

commercial flag

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Shadow__X:

correct me if i am wrong but the comcast dta doesnt support encryption it gets the same channels as a qam tunner correct?

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kormoc:

we have code that processes the video and automatically detects commercial breaks and flags them and can be set to skip them automatically

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kormoc:

Shadow__X, if I understand your question, yes

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Shadow__X:

the comcast dta adapater is just a plain qam tuner right?

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iamlindoro:

no

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J-e-f-f-A:

Shadow__X: Actually – I think it supports a very simple encryption, that's not clear qam... IIRC...

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iamlindoro:

DTAs have a weak encryption mode, which is why they needed a waiver from the FCC to turn them on-- you need a DTA precisely because they're encrypting basic

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J-e-f-f-A:

^ ;-) He's got the details... ;-)

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iamlindoro:

meaning they are locking clear QAM down to *nothing* but antenna channels in DTA areas

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Shadow__X:

iamlindoro: hmm that would explain why i lost even more channels

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twor0_zz:

wow thought it would requre a distributed model to rid my shows of ads.

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Shadow__X:

i wish comcast went out of business

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kormoc:

twor0_zz, it's not perfect, but I get ~95% hit rate

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Shadow__X:

lets switch to xfinity and give people less for more money

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Shadow__X:

so to get those channels in digital again i need a box or a dta adapter

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iamlindoro:

actually, with the box or DTA, you'll be getting them in analog... and only RF outs on DTAs

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iamlindoro:

so even worse

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Shadow__X:

if comsumers were smart we could get them to go out of business

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twor0_zz:

how can I get started?

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kormoc:

twor0_zz, http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Commercial_Detection

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Shadow__X:

iamlindoro: it seems as if comcast is pushing me to get a hdpvr

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Shadow__X:

does fios have more qam now?

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wagnerrp:

twor0_zz: note that commercial detection is not the same thing as a cutlist

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wagnerrp:

the cutlist is what you define when you go into edit mode

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wagnerrp:

and is always used by the frontend during playback

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wagnerrp:

the commercial detection is considered less precise

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wagnerrp:

and can either be ignored outright, pop up a notification, or handled like the cutlist, depending on the setting in the frontend

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twor0_zz:

commercial detection can be used as input for a cutlist if I read correctly.

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wagnerrp:

yes, in edit mode, you can choose to import the detected commercials

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bugger:

hi all – i'm running .23 on debian – for some reason i don't have video manger in the utilities menu

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bugger:

the option just isn't there

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wagnerrp:

correct

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kormoc:

bugger, that's cause it's not there anymore

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bugger:

ok, so how do i rescan my video directory?

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wagnerrp:

from within mythvideo

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wagnerrp:

hit 'm'

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bugger:

ah

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bugger:

that does it lol

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bugger:

thanks

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Captain_Murdoch:

J-e-f-f-A, thank iamlindoro for most of the UI, I've been mainly working on the backend/downloader code mainly.

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Captain_Murdoch:

s/mainly// :) /me shouldn't edit his comments after watching a commercial.

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GreyFoxx:

I looked at the image downloader problem, the data is definiately there in downloadFinished (for local videos)

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J-e-f-f-A:

Captain_Murdoch: ;-) Yeah, but it all looks to be progressing well...

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GreyFoxx:

I had it write out the dlInfo->m_data info at that point and it's a valid image

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J-e-f-f-A:

Shadow__X: I have FiOS tv now, and the only thing I get in clear QAM is local government stations and about half of the OTA stations I can get with an antenna.

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Shadow__X:

J-e-f-f-A: i guess i am so angry because i had all those clear qam channels since 2008 and in one fell swoop they took em away

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Shadow__X:

J-e-f-f-A: i really dont like it when companies take things away that you are already paying for.

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J-e-f-f-A:

Shadow__X: Yeah, I had cumcast (internet only) for 7 years before FiOS internet was available ... it was the worst customer service I had ever experienced...

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Shadow__X:

J-e-f-f-A: they have a data cap and they make you pay for things that a few months ago you didnt have to and they wonder why more and more people are ditching cable

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Captain_Murdoch:

GreyFoxx, thanks. I hadn't seen any issues in my testing either.

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Shadow__X:

J-e-f-f-A: yeah they are absolutely terible

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GreyFoxx:

Capt: I'm starting to move back up the chain to figure out where it's being lost. very weird

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J-e-f-f-A:

Shadow__X: (ps: my misspelling of their name was INTENTIONAL!)

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iamlindoro:

GreyFoxx, Captain_Murdoch: Sorry, I should have noted that I did all that testing several days ago-- the downloader is fine, there is some small issue somewhere in metadataimagedownload.cpp

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GreyFoxx:

ahhh ok

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iamlindoro:

GreyFoxx, Captain_Murdoch: If I take the resulting QByteArray and try to load it as a QImage, however, it turns up as invalid every time

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Captain_Murdoch:

iamlindoro, I think you mentioned something, but a 2nd confirmation is nice.

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iamlindoro:

I literally do the download and on the next line feed it to QImage with no success

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iamlindoro:

And an error attempting to write it out to any local file (resulting file is always 4 bytes)

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iamlindoro:

Hang on, will commit my current code

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iamlindoro:

so we're all on the same page

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GreyFoxx:

4 bytes...the size of the pointer?

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iamlindoro:

presumably, but even if I read the data into a non-pointer, no luck

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GreyFoxx:

weird

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Captain_Murdoch:

iamlindoro, I'm doing that in mythimage.cpp. calling GetMythDownloadManager()->download(filename, &data); then im->loadFromData(data); 'im' is a ptr to a QImage.

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iamlindoro:

I am determined to make it work with MythDownloadManager or I would have just reverted to before

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Captain_Murdoch:

look at libmythui/mythimage.cpp around line 290

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iamlindoro:

but haven't had a change to work it again for a few days

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iamlindoro:

Captain_Murdoch, That's literally exactly what I do, and it always complains about extraneous data before 0xd9 or whatever

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iamlindoro:

The dl completes, then: QImage testImage;

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iamlindoro:

bool didLoad = testImage.loadFromData(download->data());

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Captain_Murdoch:

don't loadFromData(download->data()); just loadFromData(download);

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iamlindoro:

Captain_Murdoch, Can't do that with a pointer to a QByteArray

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iamlindoro:

won't compile

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Captain_Murdoch:

loadFromData(*download)

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GreyFoxx:

*download ?

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GreyFoxx:

yeah

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iamlindoro:

don't go getting all logical on me

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iamlindoro:

Hang on, bet that will be the key to fixing it period too

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iamlindoro:

testing

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Captain_Murdoch:

download->data() is returning a char* to a null-terminated string which isn't what you want for binary data.

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iamlindoro:

right

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iamlindoro:

I never claimed to be smart

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iamlindoro:

;)

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iamlindoro:

well, maybe that once

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Captain_Murdoch:

we knew you were joking. :)

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iamlindoro:

Yes, that will have done it

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Captain_Murdoch:

great.

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iamlindoro:

one more test

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GreyFoxx:

woop!

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iamlindoro:

hmm, there is still something bad in here, but it *is* working so will commit and find this bug later

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iamlindoro:

ladytype coming over

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GreyFoxx:

yes, thatis much more important :)

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** GreyFoxx goes to figure out how to use mythnetvision **

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iamlindoro:

let me know if you figure it out

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iamlindoro:

Granted, in trunk there is a tiny bit of pending work (I need to set the housekeeper to run mythfillnetvision since I've removed the threaded frontend background updates)

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GreyFoxx:

will do :) I was having weird issues with some of the python stuff the other day looking to evaluate ${MYTHPYTHON} so I'm not sure if this will affect that or not

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wagnerrp:

that has been fixed

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GreyFoxx:

cool

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wagnerrp:

i accidentally used ' when i should have used "

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wagnerrp:

you know how these things are...

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kormoc:

has anyone attempted mythmusic scanning lately?

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Twiggy2cents:

I have a nuvexport question pertaining to using it as a user job. Could someone help me out?

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iamlindoro:

won't know unless you ask

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Twiggy2cents:

okay so I can run the user job from the command line and I get a bunch of errors about the database not being open while trying to open setting: ...

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Twiggy2cents:

But then it runs and encodes properly

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wagnerrp:

are you running from the same user?

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GreyFoxx:

Cool, one more update after that image download commit and then maybe it's sleep time

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Twiggy2cents:

but it errors out according to mythweb when running thorugh myth

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iamlindoro:

GreyFoxx, Captain_Murdoch: Thank you for helping me straighten it out

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Twiggy2cents:

no but I did do chmod 777 on /bin/nuvexport and /etc/nuvexportrc

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Twiggy2cents:

thats where my files are btw

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wagnerrp:

why is nuvexport in /bin?

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Twiggy2cents:

thats where someone else had it. (it was in the mythbox home folder(myth runs on mythtv user))

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Twiggy2cents:

Where should I put it?

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wagnerrp:

that someone else was dolt

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Twiggy2cents:

I have all of the files also at /home/nuvexport

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wagnerrp:

*a dolt

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GreyFoxx:

iam: Thank you for working on it. Work has been so crazy for so long I barely want to touch a computer when I get home now :)

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Twiggy2cents:

Ive tried to look at the mythbackend.log and I dont really understand it. There is a whole bunch of db errors and device busy errors but nothing about it failing at transcoding

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Twiggy2cents:

im guessing that since it works on my mythbox user and not through mythtv its a permissions issue?

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iamlindoro:

more likely a proper configuration of the bindings/config.xml/mysql.txt issue

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Twiggy2cents:

so what steps should I be taking? Im pretty nubish but I have most basic commands understood

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Twiggy2cents:

newbish*

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wagnerrp:

pastebin your logs

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Twiggy2cents:

which ones. I only know of the mythbackend.log. I didnt know where nuvexport logs are

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Shadow__X:

btw thanks J-e-f-f-A,iamlindoro,kormoc for the info about the comcast dta's

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wagnerrp:

if nuvexport gets run by the backend as a userjob, anything it outputs will be printed to the same log file

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Twiggy2cents:

also I need a light weight text editor that supports selecting and copy. Its on mythbuntu and the only way I know to edit it is with pico.

[02:06:45]

Twiggy2cents:

I dont know how to select all and copy on pico

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wagnerrp:

with the mouse?

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wagnerrp:

you mean select multiple pages...

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wagnerrp:

im guessing gedit wouldnt be installed

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wagnerrp:

maybe gvim?

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Twiggy2cents:

Im guessing by pages you mean the ability to scroll why selecting

[02:08:16]

wagnerrp:

or you can edit and upload the whole file

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Twiggy2cents:

no gvim

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Shadow__X:

anyone remember when newegg had the hdpvr on sale?

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Twiggy2cents:

oh. Should I clear it and then run the user action?

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wagnerrp:

or you can do that if the problem is repeatable

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Twiggy2cents:

okay I got it http://pastebin.com/LjCLR1x7

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Twiggy2cents:

wow wonderful internet

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Twiggy2cents:

Im back

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Twiggy2cents:

wagnerrp, Have you had a chance to look at that pastebin yet?

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wagnerrp:

thats the frontend log, not the backend

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wagnerrp:

and it seems to indicate that you do not have the database credential file set up

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Twiggy2cents:

it said mythbackend.log

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Twiggy2cents:

lies. i was wrong

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Twiggy2cents:

brb I will grab the backend.

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Twiggy2cents:

http://pastebin.com/g760u4uT

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Twiggy2cents:

that is the backend

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wagnerrp:

this is a slave backend?

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Twiggy2cents:

master backend

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Twiggy2cents:

it all works except for the userjob

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wagnerrp:

it searched for, and found, the master backend already running somewhere on the network

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Twiggy2cents:

I dont understand. That is the only hmm I had a failed attempt at setting up a frontend/ backend on another computer I just did sudo killall mythbackend and it didnt return any errors. Should I retry the user action?

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wagnerrp:

at line 8, the backend failed to connect to the specified database

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wagnerrp:

so it went out searching for an existing backend on the network

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wagnerrp:

and on line 15, it found one

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wagnerrp:

and subsequently successfully connected to the backend

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wagnerrp:

i dont know what to tell you beyond that

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wagnerrp:

seems you already have a backend running on that machine

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Pwen:

quick questio, where do I configure the backend to allow access to non-localhost clients? thanks

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wagnerrp:

and it already has all your tuner cards open

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wagnerrp:

Pwen: mythtv-setup, first section, first page

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Pwen:

sooo.. the ip you input for backend address?

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wagnerrp:

is the one the backend is running on

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Pwen:

instead of 127.0.0.1 I should put my network IP? on the master backend?

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wagnerrp:

yes

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Pwen:

thanks :-)

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Twiggy2cents:

so wagnerrp I do have a backend running on the machine and I set the useraction from mythweb. Should I check to see if there is two backends running?

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wagnerrp:

i guarantee you already have one backend running on that machine

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wagnerrp:

find out the user it is running as

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Twiggy2cents:

how do I do that?

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wagnerrp:

ps aux | grep mythbackend

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wagnerrp:

you want to copy ~/.mythtv/config.xml and ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt of that user, to those locations under the username things are failing as

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Twiggy2cents:

what exactly am I looking for. Myth tv is listed once with a sl /usr/bin/mythbackend --logfile /var/log/mytht/mythbackend.log --user mythtv

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Twiggy2cents:

and mytybox s+ grep --color=auto mythbackend

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Twiggy2cents:

and mythbox ssl mythbackend

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Twiggy2cents:

I skipped the numbers so tell me if you need them too

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wagnerrp:

the first word is the user that is running the application

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wagnerrp:

you skipped all the good stuff

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nichos:

hi all, im having a simple lirc problem that I just can't figure out. When I make changes to my ~/.lirc/mythtv file, they don't seem to take effect

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Twiggy2cents:

ha okay 12981 2.1 0.7 3320 788 pts/o

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nichos:

if re-started the frontend and lirc

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Twiggy2cents:

for mythtv

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nichos:

er, if = i've

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[R]:

nichos: mythtv doesmn't use ~/.lirc/mythtv

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Twiggy2cents:

I didnt have mysql.txt in /home/mythtv/.mythtv could that be causing it?

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nichos:

[r] shoot, why did ubuntu make that for me then !

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nichos:

i see it here under .mythtv

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Twiggy2cents:

wagnerrp, still errored: userjob returned non-zero check logs

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nichos:

oh, it's a symlink

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wagnerrp:

it could be in /etc/mythtv instead

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Twiggy2cents:

in that folder is the config.xml mysql.txt and session-settings

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nichos:

so that is a symlink, and of course it contains the settings ive put in

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nichos:

do i need to restart someting?

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nichos:

i didn't restart the backend

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Twiggy2cents:

hmm wagnerrp my config.xml in the etc/mythtv states the user for the db is mythtv but I am using root for the backend.

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wagnerrp:

well the one in /etc/mythtv is the correct one that seems to work

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wagnerrp:

so use that one

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Twiggy2cents:

and root in the mythtv home folder

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Twiggy2cents:

are you sure? the front end connects to the root one

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wagnerrp:

the backend started by the system is apparently using the one in /etc/mythtv

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wagnerrp:

and that one works

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Twiggy2cents:

okay

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wagnerrp:

anything else is picking up the database from that working backend

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Twiggy2cents:

okay I changed it to mirror the etc one. Also the etc one had the computers ip address while the home folder one had localhost

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Twiggy2cents:

still failed

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nichos:

when I test with irw the output says "Aspect" which im trying to bind to "w"

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J-e-f-f-A:

nichos: so put the mapping in your .lircrc file, and you'll be all set... ie... begin prog = mythtv button = Aspect config = w end

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nichos:

do i have to restart anything? nothing I do seems to change it

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clever:

just mythfrontend

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J-e-f-f-A:

nichos: Ypu probably have to restart mythfrontend ^^ yeah

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nichos:

i must be insaine

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Twiggy2cents:

hmm this one looks better wagnerrp http://pastebin.com/b1mXfPf7

[03:04:21]

nichos:

or missing something obvious

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nichos:

i put exactly that (except with line breaks) in my .lircrc, restarted frontend and no go

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J-e-f-f-A:

nichos: you are editing the .lircrc file for the user mythfrontend is running as, right? (typically 'mythtv', but who knows...) ;-)

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Twiggy2cents:

access denied to db?

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nichos:

j-e-f-f-A yes, the same user that launches it is the user who's running vim

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clever:

nichos: and that file is in the home dir for that user

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nichos:

for giggles I also changed the "Stop" to P (pause) and it didn't do it

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nichos:

clever – yes

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nichos:

http://pastebin.com/4gAQKCkv

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J-e-f-f-A:

nichos: Then either you're not restarting mythfrontend, or you're changing the wrong file (or the change didn't save?)

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clever:

or lircd may not be running/setup right

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nichos:

im editing on the same machine (so I must exit frontend), the file does save, that pastebin is from "cat"

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nichos:

lircd works with everything else (pause, up down, vol, etc) just about every button

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J-e-f-f-A:

clever: He's getting the output of "Aspect" when he runs 'irw' and presses that button, so lirc seems ok...

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clever:

J-e-f-f-A: ok

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nichos:

the only thing I haven't done is restart....

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J-e-f-f-A:

nichos: Are you using more than one remote control? If not, I don't think you need the 'remote=' line...

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Twiggy2cents:

wagnerrp, the mysql text is also trying to connect on root. Should I change that to mythtv?

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nichos:

j-e-f-f-A, no I'm not, the auto-generator did that

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k-man:

for some reason ABC News is being marked as "this episode was previously recorded"

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k-man:

any idea how i can make it not "preveously recorded" so it will record properly again?

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kormoc:

k-man, it's likely a generic episode

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kormoc:

k-man, set the recording rule to ignore previously recorded shows

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** J-e-f-f-A is not familiar with the 'auto-generator'... **

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kormoc:

J-e-f-f-A, that's cause there is no auto-generator?

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k-man:

can i do that from the web interface?

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kormoc:

k-man, yes

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k-man:

"duplicate check"?

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kormoc:

Yup, set that to none

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nichos:

see mythbuntu-lirc-generator

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J-e-f-f-A:

nichos: Maybe you need to put that entry in the ~/.lirc/mythtv file instead?

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** J-e-f-f-A doesn't run Ubuntu... Fedora here... **

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nichos:

j-e-f-f-A that's where I started

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kormoc:

No manual entry for mythbuntu-lirc-generator :P

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k-man:

damn, i hate those spam phone calls one receives from time to time

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nichos:

google && "I'm feeling lucky" :P

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k-man:

kormoc: thanks, i think that will solve the problem

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nichos:

just as a test, i did "mv .lirc lirc_BACK"

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nichos:

restarted frontend and the remote doesnt work, so it's reading something in that dir

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kormoc:

nichos, mythfrontend has the lirc file it's using in it's logs

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nichos:

LIRC: Successfully initialized '/dev/lircd' using '/home/nichos/.mythtv/lircrc' config

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nichos:

well dang it

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J-e-f-f-A:

nichos: And according to this page: https://code.launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/mythbun . . . rc-generator — "add support for..." "aspect" – if it's case-sensitive, changing your button name from "Aspect" to "aspect" might 'fix' it too...

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nichos:

nope, out of curiosity i deleted the "down" button, but it had no effect. I'm at a loss, there must be something ubuntu-ish that im missing

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witrchris:

Anybody here have mythtv running with a scientific atlanta stb?

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[R]:

no... i dont think ANYONE has ever tried that

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[R]:

let us know

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[R]:

;)

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nichos:

oh shit, i think i know......

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J-e-f-f-A:

nichos: careful with the language...

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witrchris:

lol ok i'm an idiot for asking

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nichos:

oh (?) sorry

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witrchris:

i'm thinking hd-pvr + scientific atlanta box + firewire to change channels so i can get hd digital cable

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[R]:

witrchris: exactly what i do

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witrchris:

[R]: who's your provider?

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[R]:

cox

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nichos:

well, I had 3 remotes in my file

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nichos:

i didn't scroll all the way down :/

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nichos:

thanks for your help though jeff

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J-e-f-f-A:

nichos: So you've got it now? good! ;-)

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witrchris:

i'm hoping it'll work with twc in rochester, ny

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nichos:

yes'sir, thanks for your help

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witrchris:

<noob> can anyone recommend a decent USB remote that won't break the bank?

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[R]:

what is a usb remote

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J-e-f-f-A:

witrchris: MC MCE – about $20 with receiver if you shop around a little bit... search ebay for 'Microsoft RC6' to weed out the crap...

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witrchris:

mce remote

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[R]:

the hdpvr comes with a remote...

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** J-e-f-f-A forgot about the hd-pvr remote... I think mine are still in the box. ;-) **

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witrchris:

i had a haupphage pci card but it's got crap remote support in linux

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witrchris:

so i think i'm gonna sell it off and get $ towards the hd-pvr

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J-e-f-f-A:

witrchris: If you do end up buying an MCE remote, this guy has the remote & receiver for about $20 + $9 shipping ... http://cgi.ebay.com/Dell-Microsoft-XP-VISTA-M . . . em2a074e16a3 — if you shop around, you can find it a little cheaper usually.

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witrchris:

J-e-f-f-A: and that'll work with linux?

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J-e-f-f-A:

witrchris: Yessir! -)

[03:50:41]

J-e-f-f-A:

witrchris: If you want one with a TV Power button, he's got them for $3 more... http://cgi.ebay.com/OEM-Microsoft-XP-VISTA-Me . . . em53e22a4556

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witrchris:

hmm i kinda want that lol

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J-e-f-f-A:

witrchris: You can program the TV power button to control your TV, and, optionally the volume up/down buttons for the TV also...

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witrchris:

right

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J-e-f-f-A:

witrchris: The buttons are backlit, *except* for the numbers (which is odd!)...

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witrchris:

lol that's not that big of a deal.

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witrchris:

though i know it's a bit out of date, i'm _really_ looking at doing a linuxmce install...

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J-e-f-f-A:

I also have a few of these remotes... they're are identical code-wise to the M$ branded ones, and actually have a few more buttons, but aren't backlit. http://cgi.ebay.com/HP-Remote-Control-PC-5069 . . . em3caeeaab2f

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Twiggy2cents:

hey how do I clear the queue of errored jobs on mythweb?

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Twiggy2cents:

hey wagnerrp you still there? I fixed it

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J-e-f-f-A:

witrchris: Here's one that looks a bit like a cell phone! http://cgi.ebay.com/New-HP-Universal-Remote-C . . . em3cadfab021

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Twiggy2cents:

many 182 people in here and hardly anybody talks

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Twiggy2cents:

somebody has to know how to remove errored jobs from the queue

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J-e-f-f-A:

Twiggy2cents: Most of us have irc proxies and aren't here 24x7, although our proxy is...

[04:00:47]

witrchris:

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Dell-Gyration-Air-Mou . . . em58875b246f ooh looks like a gyration remote...

[04:00:52]

J-e-f-f-A:

Twiggy2cents: ... and no, I don't...

[04:00:53]

witrchris:

albiet a not cheap one

[04:01:27]

Twiggy2cents:

J-e-f-f-A, well I didnt figure they were all active, I just figured there would be more active

[04:02:49]

J-e-f-f-A:

Twiggy2cents: Well, the UK folks are mostly still in bed, and some of us US folks are going to bed now... <me> ;-) Believe me, this channel can get quite chatty at times...

[04:03:35]

Twiggy2cents:

lol well I really need to too. I think I found it. In the mysql BAH I hate mysql

[04:03:41]

Twiggy2cents:

<---------------doesnt know how to work it

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J-e-f-f-A:

witrchris: I don't know how well the mouse/gyration stuff is supported (maybe 100%, I don't know!) – but that is a nice remote. ;-)

[04:04:18]

witrchris:

haha yeah..

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Beirdo:

gyrate this...

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Beirdo:

heh

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witrchris:

granted, i don't necessarily NEED the functionality of a gyro remote

[04:04:46]

Beirdo:

I want me a Harmony one of these days

[04:05:14]

J-e-f-f-A:

Beirdo: Hehehe... reminds me of something we used to say in High School... Give someone the bird, and say "Sit & Rotate — when you get to the Elbow, the ride's over!"

[04:05:29]

Beirdo:

heh

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Beirdo:

when ya hit my shoulder. BLEEP off.

[04:05:51]

Beirdo:

heh

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Beirdo:

yeah

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Beirdo:

pretty similar

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J-e-f-f-A:

witrchris: I've really got to get to bed, but here's another one – not all that pretty, but free shipping, so less than $20: http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-HP-MCE-REMOTE-CONTROL . . . em4145aa8ecf

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witrchris:

J-e-f-f-A: that's got an emitter

[04:07:25]

J-e-f-f-A:

witrchris: Ick, but shipping from China... Yikes, you'll get it in about a month!

[04:07:30]

witrchris:

however, do i need something else to actually _emit_ the stuff?

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Beirdo:

you need the IR emitter

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J-e-f-f-A:

witrchris: Hopefully not, you should be able to do channel changing via FireWire.

[04:08:03]

witrchris:

ok

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Beirdo:

they are like $2–5 on amazon.com

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J-e-f-f-A:

witrchris: But the MCE receiver is a great transmitter too...

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Beirdo:

although, if you can use firewire, you don't need IR emitter at all :)

[04:09:12]

witrchris:

right.

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witrchris:

but i have a tv too and i'm lazy heh.

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Beirdo:

laziness FTW

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Beirdo:

sphery: you up?

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Beirdo:

#8648... that's a real bug, my man. :) A deleted file shouldn't make things crash.

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Beirdo:

looks like a case of bad exception handling (at least on the surface)

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joe_k:

hi. I have mythbuntu 10.04 and I can't fetch channels from the schedulesdirect listings server. I think it has to do with perl 6 date functions. anyone experienced the problem?

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Beirdo:

perl 6?!

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joe_k:

err, libdate-manip-perl 6.xx

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Beirdo:

ah.

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Beirdo:

first off, mythbuntu support is in #mythbuntu :)

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Beirdo:

secondly, I can assure you that trunk certainly is working, and I'd be very surprised if 0.23-fixes weren't

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Beirdo:

soo, there's an autobuild setup for 0.23-fixes under mythbuntu that people have linked to here before

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Beirdo:

I'd bet that using that rather than the default pre-0.23 install that comes with mythbuntu 10.04 may fix a lot of interesting issues

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Beirdo:

also, not sure how perl modules would affect mythfilldatabase which is not in perl :)

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joe_k:

well the xmltv stuff is in perl (/usr/bin/tv_grab_na_dd and friends)

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joe_k:

and i figured its what got called to populate the channel list

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joe_k:

but i patched a couple lines in that particular file for the new version and resetup everything

[06:58:14]

joe_k:

but still no channels and nothing happens when I click "fetch channels from listings server"

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joe_k:

(but the patch did correct a perl error)

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joe_k:

really i would like to see if any errors messages are printed when mythtv-setup is running .... or find where that 'fetch' button is defined in the sources to see what it calls and then go fix that

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Beirdo:

joe_k: xmltv is not used by mythtv to do Schedules Direct data

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Beirdo:

anyways, it's time fer bed for me

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Beirdo:

good luck. look for the autobuilds, get a 0.23-fixes one, that may well fix it

[07:11:17]

Beirdo:

you may need to get over to #mythbuntu for further support on that

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justinh:

joe_k: I don't use SD but I found I couldn't run xmltv stuff either due to a problem with Perl Date::Manip too

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justinh:

the one shipping with mythbuntu & current ubuntu is too new for xmltv if I remember right, so you need either an older version of Date::Manip or an updated xmltv grabber.. or just a hack on the grabber

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xand:

mmmm hardware for new mythtv box should arrive (at work) today, that'll annoy our receptionist >.<

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justinh:

there's a bug open on the date::manip issue anyway

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justinh:

but as Beirdo said SD data grabbing in mythtv doesn't use perl so the date::manip issue shouldn't even affect it – but it *would* affect the tv_grab_na_dd script

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justinh:

WTH? /var/www/mythweb is a symobilic link to /usr/share/mythtv/mythweb (!)

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justinh:

or a symbolic link, even

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clever:

sounds like an ok place to store mythweb

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kripz:

Does the mythvideo's internal player support vpdau?

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justinh:

course it does

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justinh:

supports exactly the same things as mythtv's tv/recordings player. Because it's the same player

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kripz:

interesting... it doesnt seem to be upmixing 2.1 to 5.1

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justinh:

that has *nothing* to do with vdpau

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kripz:

thats a different topic :D

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justinh:

and *everything* to do with mythtv's general audio settings

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kripz:

TV upmixing works fine but videos dont upmix, i dont know if it's the upmixing or maybe it cant play my mkv?

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justinh:

or maybe there's just no surround information in the video soundtracks

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kripz:

probablym, shouldnt it upmix to 5.1?

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justinh:

not sure. personally I just use digital out for surround, and if it ain't got DTS or AC3 encoding, no surround :)

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justinh:

you'd think that even a movie with just a basic stereo soundtrack should have at least ProLogic encoding in it

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justinh:

that's where the surround (rear) channel is phase encoded in the L + R channels

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justinh:

the centre channel is derived from the L+R channels too

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justinh:

so yeah a basic stereo soundtrack should in theory produce surround with an upmixer

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justinh:

the settings for the internal player are exactly the same for videos & TV content so if upmixing is working with one it should work on the other – unless of course you're not actually using the internal player for videos. some distros still default to using mplayer AFAIK. It'll pay you to check

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justinh:

by that I mean some distros packing mythtv actually still set the default video player to mplayer AFAIK

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kripz:

justinh, even without all that stuff, can i get mythvideo to just treat the rear speakers like the front speakers? ie. output it on both rear and front

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justinh:

you're missing the point. mythvideo

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justinh:

aghh

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justinh:

mythvideo's player is THE SAME as the TV player

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justinh:

so whatever the tv/recordings player does, mythvideo does too

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justinh:

and vice-versa

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justinh:

that is, unless you've still got it set as something other than Internal

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justinh:

and FWIW, having the rear channels do exactly the same as the front isn't actually upmixing

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justinh:

nor, in my experience, does it provide a compelling sound stage

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Twiggy2cents:

hey wagnerrp you awake?

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** stuarta burps **

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** oobe wakes up wagnerrp **

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oobe:

he's just making a coffee he will be here in a sec

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Twiggy2cents:

oh okay

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oobe:

sorry i was kidding I thought you knew

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oobe:

humour doesnt translate well on irc somtimes

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oobe:

i guess non ascii characters dont either

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Twiggy2cents:

well I wasnt sure, i though maybe you two worked together or something

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Twiggy2cents:

lol

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Twiggy2cents:

they need to make a standard of using sarcastic tags on anything questionable

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justinh:

it's easier with me. everything I say is intended as sarcasm

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stuarta:

</sarcasm>

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stuarta:

what's wrong with that

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Twiggy2cents:

thats what I was talking about

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justinh:

my IRC client marks sarcasm as slightly grey text on a black backrgound. As all the other text

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Twiggy2cents:

lol If i read that right you client marks it all as sarcasm?

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justinh:

no, it all looks the same

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** stuarta pokes justinh with a comically shaped sarcasm trout **

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Twiggy2cents:

does anybody use xchat?

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stuarta:

ew

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justinh:

psst.... wanna xchat? cam?

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Twiggy2cents:

asl

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stuarta:

tho it's one of the better windows clients

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Twiggy2cents:

I use it on linux and windoze

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justinh:

what's windoze? is it a clone of Windows sourced from the Far East?

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Twiggy2cents:

I just wanted to know how to change my text to a different color other than crap grey with out having to actually look for it lol

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Twiggy2cents:

windoze is windows 8 :)

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justinh:

go to My Computer, select C:, right click on it & select FORMAT from the menu. Click YES or OK. Then you're done

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oobe:

lol

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oobe:

that wouldnt work thank god

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Twiggy2cents:

that didnt do it. To fix it I had to put a dos disk in start to dos and do a del tree c:\

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Twiggy2cents:

Hmm now it seems to have a system theme and say no os found

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Twiggy2cents:

:(

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justinh:

hmm I think word must have got out about me being on paternity leave soon. I'm frickin snowed

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stuarta:

eta?

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justinh:

original ETA is Monday

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justinh:

subject to change of course ;)

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stuarta:

oooo, so add a few days cause it's the first one

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justinh:

so everybody says

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justinh:

ain't necessarily so

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stuarta:

nope, but true 90% of the time

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justinh:

a grandparent staunchly proclaimed last week "eeee but you've GOT to get him baptised!". Why? "Or he won't be able to get a job". Like WTH?

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stuarta:

heh, it'll need it if it marries a catholic :)

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justinh:

nah, it'll have enough brains not to get involved with anybody religious I hope :)

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justinh:

it/more than likely *he*/

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stuarta:

:)

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stuarta:

my little man is 8.5 mths old now

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justinh:

how time flies eh

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stuarta:

indeed

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Captain_Murdoch:

mine has the operating room scheduled for his delivery on monday the 26th.

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stuarta:

no variation in that schedule then

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** stuarta thinks 0.24 will have to be called the "baby boom" release **

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justinh:

I just hope ours wants to come out of his own accord. wife hates hospitals, and her being banned from driving for 6 weeks wouldn't go down well

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justinh:

did the dry run at the weekend. 20 minute drive in traffic :)

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** Captain_Murdoch just realizes the irony that he's trying to get the theme downloader mostly finished before the other download happens. **

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stuarta:

hah

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justinh:

can't you feed/burp with one hand & code with the other?

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stuarta:

i've tried, it's not terribly successful

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justinh:

lol

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justinh:

reeto. time to mod some more boards. thankyou for being idiots, hardware design guys

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Captain_Murdoch:

yeah, with my daughter, I used to set her in my lap or in a bouncy chair on my desk or on the floor beside me. I had practice typing with one hand when I broke my right hand in college and a few years ago when I broke the left one in Bermuda.

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Captain_Murdoch:

most of my recent dev work has been in a vnc session on my laptop while sitting on the couch.

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frebas:

hi! I cant scan with my dvb-s device using mythtv but with kaffeine it works. the problem ist that i cant add a LNB there just happens nothing if i want to.

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stuarta:

trying pushing down before pushing enter

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frebas:

?

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stuarta:

by default nothing is highlighted so it's not possible to add the lnb until you highlight add new lnb

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frebas:

thank

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frebas:

s

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frebas:

i thought it was hightlighted

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wagnerrp:

gbee, iamlindoro: liucong104 on the wiki could use deleting

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Twiggy2cents:

wagnerrp, You were spot on with it being a db issue last night

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Twiggy2cents:

I had the backend connecting to db host localhost and the rest was trying to connect to the computers actual IP as the host.

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Twiggy2cents:

I also found out the wonders of a gui interface for mysql!

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wagnerrp:

mysql doesnt have a gui interface

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Twiggy2cents:

no but mysql admin does

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wagnerrp:

i think the /only/ thing i would ever use a 3rd party program for access to mysql is for user management

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wagnerrp:

that seems like the only thing that could be made easier than the command line for mysql

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Twiggy2cents:

Well I used it for checking where the db was and the settings and clearing the errored job queue. I hope I dont need to utilize it much

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wagnerrp:

the jobqueue will clean itself out on its own

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Twiggy2cents:

The error ones hadnt left but all the others had

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wagnerrp:

they will eventually

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wagnerrp:

they intentionally stay there for a long time

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wagnerrp:

in case things errored while you were out of town or something

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mzb:

I'm interested in the idea of watching my mythtv recordings from a remote location

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mzb:

is there a *nice* way of doing this?

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Twiggy2cents:

ohh okay. Well I have to get to work but thanks for taking the time to point me in the right direction!

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wagnerrp:

mzb: how much bandwidth you got?

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mzb:

mythweb is not working for me

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joe_k:

justinh: well then the xmltv stuff doesnt apply, I just need to get my channels fetched

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mzb:

at home it's 6Mb/1Mb ... here it's 1500Kb/256Kb

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mzb:

ish

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wagnerrp:

yeah, 1mbps isnt going to get you much

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justinh:

hmm. if you're gonna leave it several hours before replying, chances are I'll have forgotten what was being talked about :)

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wagnerrp:

mythweb flash streaming should work, if youve got the CPU grunt to transcode in real time

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mzb:

figured as much, so I thought I'd give mythweb a try but it's b0rk3d

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justinh:

remember I'm old :P

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wagnerrp:

why isnt mythweb working?

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joe_k:

justinh: fetch channel listings from schedulesdirect not working

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mzb:

mbe is amd x2 4400+

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joe_k:

justing: also tried #mythbuntu but that channel is dead

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wagnerrp:

joe_k: what type of tuner?

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joe_k:

hdhomerun

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mzb:

(looks pretty idle from here, too;))

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justinh:

oh yeah & date::manip – whichever one ubuntu is shipping with doesn't like xmltv

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wagnerrp:

you cannot fetch a channel listing for digital tuners

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wagnerrp:

you must scan, and match up XMLTV IDs manually

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joe_k:

Oh. damn

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justinh:

we really need to start working out how to wizardise this

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joe_k:

ok well the tv_grab_na_dd tool fetched me an XML list with a lot of "display names" for each channel id

[14:51:30]

mzb:

the BE logs are showing 'Protocol version check failure' whenever I try anything with mythweb

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joe_k:

can that help me?

[14:51:42]

wagnerrp:

mzb: going to be sufficient for anything mpeg2, not for h264 broadcasts

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mzb:

that's fine

[14:52:06]

mzb:

I only want SD ... even transcoded is ok

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wagnerrp:

if youre getting problems with the protocol version check

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wagnerrp:

chances are that you have a mismatch between backend and mythweb versions

[14:52:27]

wagnerrp:

upgrade/downgrade mythweb to match

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wagnerrp:

you should see an error as such when opening mythweb

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mzb:

nope

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** Beirdo yawns **

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mzb:

I've copied the mythweb dir directly out of the src dir that runs on the MBE

[14:54:41]

mzb:

the MBE obviously works ;)

[14:54:51]

mzb:

mythweb *mostly* works

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wagnerrp:

what revision?

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mzb:

err

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mzb:

Revision: 24727

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mzb:

gee ... that is getting a bit old ;)

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joe_k:

wagnerrp: can you point me to any references for what config files need to be edited to match up xmltv ids

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wagnerrp:

500 revisions, only a handful of those are going to be for 0.23-fixes

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joe_k:

joe_k: or is it all via the ui

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mzb:

this is trunk, not fixes

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wagnerrp:

joe_k: log into schedulesdirect, and mouse over a channel to get its XMLTV ID

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joe_k:

ok irssi i am not talking to myself

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wagnerrp:

then go into the channel editor in mythtv-setup, or mythfrontend, or mythweb, and set that xmltv id for the matching channel

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joe_k:

i have the channel list with IDs in an XML file, just need to know how to tell Myth

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joe_k:

so I can see my schedule data.... filldatabase has been fetching it

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Beirdo:

joe_k: why are you using xmltv for schedules direct?

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joe_k:

ok i dont know what i am using

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joe_k:

i am trying to make it work

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wagnerrp:

i dont know what tv_grab_na provides, but there is no guarantee that it will match up with scheduledirect's data

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wagnerrp:

pull the xmltvids from the SD website

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joe_k:

i read a reference to that in a problem ticket

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joe_k:

i am poking in the dark

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joe_k:

drawing straws

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joe_k:

it definitely connects to schedulesdirect and downloads data correctly. It takes my sd password

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joe_k:

so its related somehow

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joe_k:

the root problem is – no schedule data in the listings for the channels I have scanned

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wagnerrp:

http://mythtv.org/wiki/Adding_Digital_Cable_C . . . _USA/Canada)

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joe_k:

sd account created. lineup selected. channels scanned. input connections setup.

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wagnerrp:

erm... no

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Beirdo:

there's a builtin way to use Schedules Direct, and you don't even need xmltv installed

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wagnerrp:

scratch that

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wagnerrp:

dont read that page

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wagnerrp:

its all wrong

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joe_k:

ok...

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mzb:

classes/MythBackend.php: static $protocol_version = 57;

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joe_k:

Beirdo: be that as it may, I dont see the data

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joe_k:

Beirdo: this would seem to be the most simple config. Fresh mythbuntu. Hdhomerun. New SD account... I thought this was a common setup

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wagnerrp:

go to the page, open a lineup, mouse over a channel, and the xmltvid will be displayed in a popup

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mzb:

2010-06–23 02:35:06.735 Using protocol version 57

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wagnerrp:

then use livetv to find the matching channel, and set the xmltvid

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wagnerrp:

do that for all the channels, run mythfilldatabase, and youll be done

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joe_k:

set where

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wagnerrp:

in one of the three channel editors

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wagnerrp:

there is a command to open one up in livetv in mythfrontend

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wagnerrp:

'e'? i dont remember

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joe_k:

i have been doing this in mythtv-setup

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** stuarta wibbles **

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wagnerrp:

easier to do this in the frontend or mythweb

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wagnerrp:

considering you need to watch the channels to figure out what they are

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** mzb wobbles ;) **

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joe_k:

ok I see a field for it in mythtv-setup... i will go try to find the input field in the frontend

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mzb:

'6 little ducks that I once knew ...' ... *sigh* ;)

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joe_k:

BTW Ubuntu is the suck for UI... are they trying to copy windows as fast as they can???

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joe_k:

sweep-select doesn't copy in the terminal??? WTF

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joe_k:

anyway

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mzb:

joe_k, middle click to paster

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mzb:

joe_k, middle click to paste

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joe_k:

yes I have been using X for like 15 years

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** mzb give joe_k a round of applause! **

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joe_k:

ubuntu is grating on me!

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mzb:

:)

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stuarta:

windows cut n paste still annoys the shit out of me, it's not consistent like X is

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mzb:

agreed

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joe_k:

no to mention the overuse of horizontal bars on wide screens!

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mzb:

go for netbook edition then!

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joe_k:

heh

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joe_k:

maybe i will

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joe_k:

gah

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joe_k:

thanks guys

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mzb:

might be time to go (back?) to Debian? ;))

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stuarta:

go for the server edition! no crap

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stuarta:

no X if you get it right :)

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mzb:

I click on a recording and I get "Warning: Unknown Program."

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mzb:

asx stream is too much for the skinny pipe at this end

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mzb:

(at the least)

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mzb:

I've tried with bot firefox and chrome

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mzb:

both!

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mzb:

nm, time to crash

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wagnerrp:

Beirdo: have you given any thought to migrating the weather scripts over to the backend metadata handler?

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iamlindoro:

I'm not sure if it lends itself to that (it's not really backend metadata anyway, just metadata classes, there's nothing in the protocol yet)

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wagnerrp:

ah, right.... only the MNV stuff gets handled by the backend/mythxml

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wagnerrp:

forgot the other stuff is still called manually

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wagnerrp:

i was just thinking about it from a recent feature request to put weather data in mythwelcome, pushing that stuff into the backend would make it easier to access that data external from stuff like mythwelcome or mythweb

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wagnerrp:

nevermind me, early morning musings

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justinh:

ho ho ho. gig E isn't working on one of our machines. then we find 2 in a row the same. then I find out it's cos the 1v8 line for the gig phy is dropping to 0.5V... and then ponder that these shouldn't even have passed test... then found out that they don't test the Gig E. lol

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justinh:

I must work for an awesome company

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wagnerrp:

10/100 is good enough for anyone

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justinh:

well yeah if you can actually get 100 out of it sure

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justinh:

not that anybody has yet got gigabit out of our gigabit port

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justinh:

33Mhz PCI bus. LOL

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wagnerrp:

but theres a whole 8MB/s of headroom there

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justinh:

note that's also the bus captured video is travelling on

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frebas:

what does "error opening jump program file buffer" mean? i cant watch live tv

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wagnerrp:

issues with livetv generally have nothing to do with the frontend

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wagnerrp:

please see the backend logs for an explanation of why the recording failed

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iamlindoro:

A common reason for that one is a time mismatch between backend and frontend

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frebas:

recording works

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wagnerrp:

apparently not

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wagnerrp:

livetv /is/ a recording

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wagnerrp:

just a special one managed by the frontend, rather than the scheduler

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frebas:

there are only 2 channels with programm information (EPG)

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frebas:

a time mismatch cant be

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frebas:

frontend and backand is on one pc

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iamlindoro:

We could talk about it for a few more hours, or you could check the logs

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frebas:

ok

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frebas:

i just change the pc with irc

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GlemSom:

Anyone else having failures when using EPG in LiveTV – after rev 25333 ? Or is that just me... ?

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caelor:

a question – I'm guessing lossless h264 cutting is still on the distant horizon (and no closer), right? Just before I spend some time trying to convince mythtranscode to top and tail some BBC HD recordings ready for archiving...

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wagnerrp:

no, there has been no work on putting lossless h264 cutting in mythtranscode

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caelor:

thanks :) saved me some time. Don't really need HD for archiving anyway, so I'll downsample them at the same time

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frebas:

iamlindoro: pastebin.de/8267

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wagnerrp:

apparently theres some script on the wiki which uses an external transcoder, capable of clipping

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wagnerrp:

or you could rig something up with 'dd'

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wagnerrp:

someone just need heavy medication and a padded room... http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/141732/

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caelor:

yeah, I've been playing with different options today. Just trying to find one that's user friendly enough for me to remember what to do next time I come to archive things in 6 months time...

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caelor:

wagnerrp: I could tie your responses to me and that link together – reencoding video often makes me feel like I need heavy medication and a padded room.

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wagnerrp:

caelor: completely unrelated to you, a random off topic remark

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caelor:

indeed, but gave me a chuckle when I mentally tied them together.

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caelor:

is there any documentation on the "--profile" argument to mythtranscode? It seems a little sketchy from what I'm seeing

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** Beirdo cues some Extreme **

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CyberKnet:

Beirdo :)

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Beirdo:

heya

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gbee:

heh, just been looking at which cards fall into the A/B feature sets for VDPAU, probably not new to anyone here but I'd assume that all 9xxx series offered complete acceleration of all three codecs, instead it turns out that the bottom of the range 8200 IGP which I've got is actually better than many 8xxx and 9xxx series discrete cards

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Beirdo:

nice

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wagnerrp:

gbee: sure, but 'feature set b' just adds full VC-1 acceleration

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Beirdo:

gbee: any idea if the animated gif support is likely to happen sometime soon? :)

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wagnerrp:

which is transparently handled by the driver on cards that dont support it

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gbee:

wagnerrp: not according to the docs

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wagnerrp:

oh?

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gbee:

Feature set A includes VC-1, but apparently doesn't offer full hardware acceleration for any codec

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wagnerrp:

i thought A had full acceleration for everything but the VC-1 entropy compressor

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wagnerrp:

and B added acceleration for that

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gbee:

err, full accel for H.264 actually, not not VC-1 or mpeg-2

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gbee:

http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x . . . mits-decoder

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gbee:

"but not"

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gbee:

of course it's caveated with "at least" so it's entirely possible some A cards offer full accel for one or both,

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gbee:

http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x . . . endix-a.html

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gbee:

anyway, I found it surprising, I felt sure that it would be the other way around, you don't tend to expect the bottom range IGP (supporting VDPAU) to do better than the more expensive, power hungry, discrete cards

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wagnerrp:

well nvidia generally releases the high end cards first

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wagnerrp:

so the bottom range IGPs are much newer hardware

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frebas:

iamlindoro: i changed the directory for the recordings and now it works

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gregl:

I thought the channel changing scripts were moved out of contrib to the wiki,but I can't seem to find them..Can anyone point me in the right direction?

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wagnerrp:

http://mythtv.org/wiki/Channel_Change_Scripts

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gregl:

Thanks..

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caelor:

is nuvexport tied to releases, or is it (within reason) cross compatible between 0.23-fixes and trunk?

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Beirdo:

well, it hasn't changed from 0.23-fixes to trunk AFAIK

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caelor:

ok, thanks. I'll just grab the latest from svn

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caelor:

(lucid doesn't seem to have a package for it any more)

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Beirdo:

grrr

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Beirdo:

yeah, I know

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Beirdo:

and I complained to them before they cut that release

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dustybin:

Beirdo: how is mythweather coming along?

[17:38:40]

Beirdo:

should be usable except for animated maps

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dustybin:

ace :D

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Beirdo:

which is waiting for support in the mythui library

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dustybin:

is mythmusic being re-written from scratch

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Beirdo:

not by me, but it wouldn't surprise me

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dustybin:

aye ok

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caelor:

yeah. No harm done (to me, at least). https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nuvexport/+bug/520564 seems to be the reference where it got deleted. I'm not sure I'd agree that "Anyone who would like to use it we will be pointing to SVN" holds true though.

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gbee:

in future we can make nuvexport available via services so it won't need to be packaged

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Beirdo:

possibly

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Beirdo:

but it will still need to be sorta tied to the release loosely

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Beirdo:

as it uses perl bindings and the protocol

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gbee:

well services is planned to do that, it just allows for point releases to reach end-users faster

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Beirdo:

yeah :)

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caelor:

I am looking forward to services – it sounds like it will be a huge step forward

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CyberKnet:

How's it going Beirdo? – This message brought to you by Subway. Eat Fresh.

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Beirdo:

heh, not too bad. living in Seattle now... and single again

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Beirdo:

right now physically in downtown Philly though

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Beirdo:

listening to some nice Megadeth. hehe

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dustybin:

what is the average size of a blueray movie?

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dustybin:

20–30GB ?

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Beirdo:

about 5.25" diameter

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dustybin:

LOL

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wagnerrp:

more like 20–40GB

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dustybin:

the disks can store 50GB

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dustybin:

aye ok

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dustybin:

i need to calculate how much storage space i will need, its time to buy some new hds

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dustybin:

i might be able to store 30 blueray movies in 1TB of space, not bad :D

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gbee:

~30GB for 120 mins here

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dustybin:

ace

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gbee:

so yeah, 20–40GB is a good bracket

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CyberKnet:

Beirdo: Aw man. I'm really sorry to hear that.

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Beirdo:

these things happen

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caelor:

wagnerrp, Bierdo – I had to make a small mod to nuvexport to make it recognise the ffmpeg packaged with Lucid. Diff in http://mythtv.pastebin.com/vv136wqK – added a new clause to the version detection.

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Beirdo:

OK

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Beirdo:

I'll look at that in a moment. Thanks

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caelor:

np. Thought it might help prevent user questions if it's still applicable when the services infrastructure arrives.

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caelor:

I suspect the previous clause may never work, but didn't want to remove anything without knowing consequences

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dustybin:

im going to buy 3x seagate 2TB drives, configure them using linux soft raid-5 & LVM. This will give me a nice amount of space for HD & SD video, music, photos etc

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wagnerrp:

why would you make a RAID5 with only 3 drives

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dustybin:

Raid 5 --- Minumum 3 Drives

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wagnerrp:

yeah, but you would get more space out of 6x1TB drives, for the same price

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dustybin:

wagnerrp: but then i would have no potential to expand

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dustybin:

i would still have 3x spare hard drive bays

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wagnerrp:

then buy them all up front

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dustybin:

you got me thinking now..

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wagnerrp:

RAID expansion is a long, tedious process

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wagnerrp:

software raid on 2TB drives, thats going to take you a couple days for an expansion

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** iamlindoro will drink to that **

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joe_k:

this is why I want to get my backend running on my freebsd server

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joe_k:

zfs

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wagnerrp:

backend runs just fine on freebsd

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joe_k:

yeah i just havent installed it

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joe_k:

i should b/c my previous machine has a dead motherboard so have had no tv for a while

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wagnerrp:

ZFS bypasses the whole RAID expansion issue... by not supporting it

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joe_k:

i run raid on mine

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wagnerrp:

i wouldnt exactly call that an 'advantage'

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joe_k:

i chose mirrors though

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dustybin:

wagnerrp: it might take a couple of days, but once its done, i dont have to worry unless there is a disk failure

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joe_k:

oh, expansion.... yes well it kind of does. you can swap all the drives out "from under it" and let it rebuild them

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joe_k:

and when all the drives are bigger the volume will also be

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wagnerrp:

but you cant add a new drive, which is what dustybin is talking about doing

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joe_k:

well in my mirror config I add 2 at a time and they increase the pool size

[18:38:23]

joe_k:

but yeah adding to an existing raid set, i am not sure about

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joe_k:

(non-mirrored raid)

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dustybin:

wagnerrp: a seagate 1TB = 50 pound a seagate 2TB = 100 pound currently on ebuyer.com

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wagnerrp:

you can add or remove vdevs to a pool at will, but you cannot add disks to a stripped vdev

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joe_k:

right

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wagnerrp:

if you want to add new drives to a pool, you need to create a new independent vdev, and add that to the poo

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joe_k:

indeed

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dustybin:

wagnerrp: can i add new drives to RAID-6 ?

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wagnerrp:

dustybin: if your raid software/controller supports it

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dustybin:

ok

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wagnerrp:

joe_k: i would say that sequentially replacing each drive in an array and rebuilding is far more tedious then just adding a new one

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joe_k:

sure

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wagnerrp:

either way, its a very lengthy process, during which you are in a vulnerable, degraded state

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joe_k:

it could definitely be better, but for me it works great... I increase size by adding mirror pairs

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wagnerrp:

if youre looking for reliability, dont expand, just create new and copy over

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wagnerrp:

space it so those expansions will be several years apart, when youre looking for new server hardware anyway

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wagnerrp:

so you just build a new machine from scratch

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joe_k:

yep

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dustybin:

would RAID-6 take forever to expand like RAID-5 ?

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joe_k:

yes

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dustybin:

ok

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frebas:

deleting channels via mythweb interface doesnt work, there just doesnt happen anything

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joe_k:

same amount or more data shuffling

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dustybin:

i dont like the sound of RAID-5 or RAID-6, i think i might just buy double the amount of disks and use RAID 1+0

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wagnerrp:

no, 1+0 sucks

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wagnerrp:

rather, 0+1 sucks

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wagnerrp:

if youre going to do that, use 10

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gbee:

does anyone else see artifacts near the bottom of the picture with vdpau + VC1? particularly in dark scenes and at it's worst with white on black credits

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iamlindoro:

gbee: Depending on artifacting you are talking about, I may have seen it

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iamlindoro:

I have seen some breakups in the bottom 20% of the screen, usually breaking up to white

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iamlindoro:

almost like all-white macroblocks

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dustybin:

wagnerrp: i thought RAID 1+0 is RAID 10

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iamlindoro:

Probably worth playing the straight file rather than using libbluray, I had some concenrs when I first saw it that it might have been an issue with my implementation of libmythbluray

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iamlindoro:

but have not had an opportunity to test the theory

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wagnerrp:

dustybin: ive never heard anyone call it 1+0

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justinh:

thought there was something about bottom line corruption with vdpau on the users ML

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dustybin:

aye ok

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wagnerrp:

which is why i initially mistook what you said

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gbee:

iamlindoro: yeah that sounds like what I'm seeing, I tried grabbing a screenshot but my timing was off and this is the best I could get – http://miffteevee.co.uk/imagebin/VC1_VDPAU_artifacts.png

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wagnerrp:

i suppose the opposite is only called 0+1 to differentiate it from RAID1

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gbee:

at least I know it's not a problem on my end

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iamlindoro:

gbee: yes, have seen similar

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gbee:

gets a little worse than shown in the screenshot, but that gives an idea

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gbee:

it's probably been reported to Nvidia, but you never know

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iamlindoro:

gbee: The reason I had concerns about libmythbluray is that I fudged the block sizes as best I understood them, but was never quite certain-- 6144 is the correct number to use for a BD block, but wasn't sure I had the buffer size right in RingBuffer.cpp

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justinh:

so, all we have to do to keep somebody quiet is for me to come in & contribute? Heh I might stay

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justinh:

oh btw any other UK folks rescanned recently & found all the DVB-T radio channels – and possibly a handful of TV channels end up with underscores in front of their channum ?

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gbee:

iamlindoro: ah, ok well we can discuss that with Markk or janneg, they may have some idea and/or we can experiment to see if it helps any

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iamlindoro:

gbee: The quick test would be to play the m2ts file directly

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iamlindoro:

if it's still there, I'm in the clear ;)

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wagnerrp:

kormoc: that means you can no longer reproduce that issue?

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gbee:

I was just going to ask :)

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gbee:

no seeking, so getting to the credits at the end will be fun

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iamlindoro:

no seeking why?

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iamlindoro:

Should work with libav seeking

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kormoc:

wagnerrp, Aye, it's working fine

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wagnerrp:

good deal

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gbee:

iamlindoro: nevermind, thought it wasn't working when I tried yesterday

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iamlindoro:

cool

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gbee:

it does work, not pretty since it's not seeking to a keyframe, but it works

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gbee:

ok, still seeing the artifacts so it's not related to the block/buffer size

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** iamlindoro quietly rejoices **

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gbee:

heh, ffplay fails spectacularly to play the ts, audio but no video and subtitles are enabled for some reason, but they are huge and mostly off-screen

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justinh:

oof. gonna need to add another tuner. conflict! and this is *with* multirec & only 5 muxes. lol

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gbee:

but I get your point

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gbee:

anyway, plan is to replace the two single tuner DVB-T cards with a dual tuner and free up space therefore improving air circulation, the 500 is also low profile which will help with airflow and they run cooler in my experience, that should give me the option of a second Nova-T 500 in the free slot at some future date

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iamlindoro:

They put Weekend at Bernies on Blu-ray but I can't get Farscape? Tragedy.

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wagnerrp:

in qt, you can define default inputs for functions, right?

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iamlindoro:

In C++ in general, yes

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gbee:

iamlindoro: Farscape was shot on SD cameras, no advantage to making it available on Bluray, but films are generally shot on, er, film meaning they can make HD transfers

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wagnerrp:

when you call the function, can you provide a pre-defined input, without the preceeding one?

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** wagnerrp is more a C guy **

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iamlindoro:

gbee: Farscape was shot on 35mm, with effects done on digibeta

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justinh:

gbee: that's why I went down the road of getting a motherboard with 5 slots

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iamlindoro:

I'd happily take the limited CG stuff in upscaled SD

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iamlindoro:

since most of the actual effects were muppets/old fashioned

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gbee:

iamlindoro: really? Ok, I really thought it was done on video

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iamlindoro:

gbee: yep, and Season 4 was shot on HD digital

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gbee:

justinh: well this board has 5 slots, just that only 3 are PCI :)

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iamlindoro:

so would need to scan the film for 1–3, remaster the effects (optional), and just do a transfer of S4

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gbee:

iamlindoro: huh, thought the last season was before HD took off

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wagnerrp:

shame they dont keep those models around

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wagnerrp:

it probably wouldnt be too difficult to run their models through some tessellation, and re-render in HD

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iamlindoro:

gbee: http://www.timtoon.com/2009/11/07/farscape-wi . . . in-high-def/

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iamlindoro:

On the plus side, HD would only make Claudia Black look like more of a horse

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gbee:

I know for example that The Wire was shot in SD which is a crying shame, they had the option of shooting the last season in HD but decided it spoil it to change the style by changing cameras/resolution/aspect ratio

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gbee:

would

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gbee:

iamlindoro: I take it you're not a Claudia Black fan? ;)

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iamlindoro:

Just like Farscape, Firefly was shot on film and effects were done in SD-- The Blu-rays are still well worth it

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iamlindoro:

so I'd happily take the same treatment of Farscape

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iamlindoro:

(Firefly effects on Blu-ray are upscaled)

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iamlindoro:

gbee: Heh, I actually quite like her on the show, but stunning she is not

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gbee:

yeah, she tends to grow on you rather than being a knock-out beauty

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Beirdo:

caelor: I put a modified version of your patch into trunk

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wagnerrp:

well you know, she looks pretty good for having been cut in half the same year

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wagnerrp:

and eaten

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gbee:

and blown to smithereens

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wagnerrp:

she was blown up?

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iamlindoro:

turned into a pile of gumballs, then mixed up with someone else's gumballs, in the water

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gbee:

here and Crichton together, they were reassembled piece by piece

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gbee:

her

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iamlindoro:

then having the gumballs swallowed by a floating space toad

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iamlindoro:

then vommed up and reassembled

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wagnerrp:

ah, cant say i remember that episode

[19:49:09]

** wagnerrp was referring to Pitch Black **

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iamlindoro:

Series Finale

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iamlindoro:

then the PeaceKeeper Wars

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gbee:

wagnerrp: heh, yeah I forgot she was in that

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wagnerrp:

well she wasnt in it for long

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wagnerrp:

they killed her off pretty early

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gbee:

wagnerrp: as iamlindoro said, when the series was cancelled they killed them off, but when they were given the chance to wrap up the storylines in a special two-parter they had to resurrect them both

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iamlindoro:

And they RUINED the story with that miniseries, BTW

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Beirdo:

mmmm, git.

[19:51:02]

iamlindoro:

Or you might blame the fact that they compressed a whole season into four hours

[19:51:04]

iamlindoro:

but still

[19:51:34]

iamlindoro:

During the show, the whole universe felt alive, and scary, and weird

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gbee:

so it was a bit of a stretch, but at least they managed to make it humorous enough that the viewer is prepared to let it slide

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iamlindoro:

during the miniseries, it all just felt like plastic, and without the same spirit

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gbee:

... they've made a film version of the A-team ... wtf is wrong with Hollywood?

[19:54:04]

wagnerrp:

lack of creativity

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gbee:

well that's long been the case, but at least they made an effort to hide it when they were ripping off old material

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wagnerrp:

same thing the music industry has done for years

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wagnerrp:

find something that works with one crowd, and repeat

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Beirdo:

mmmmm, autotune

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Beirdo:

hehe

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wagnerrp:

slightly different name, slightly different look, but its all the same repackaged drivel

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gbee:

and sure, this isn't the first remake/film adaptation in recent years, but they are really scraping the barrel now

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wagnerrp:

hey you, up on stage, they only hired you because you can gyrate!

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Beirdo:

get to gyrating already

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Beirdo:

there. I have my git setup the way I want...

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wagnerrp:

who is the rapper who intentionally uses autotune for the distortion?

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gbee:

there's just the one?

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Beirdo:

if I am working on a branch, it will install to /opt/mythtv/${BRANCH} as a prefix

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wagnerrp:

well... how about the one who started it and made it a fad

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wagnerrp:

he needs to get gunned down in a nightclub

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iamlindoro:

wagnerrp: T-Pain

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** gbee shrugs, not a rap fan **

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wagnerrp:

neither am i, but you go out in public, you hear people playing it

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wagnerrp:

every time i hear that... makes me want to stick pens in my ears

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iamlindoro:

Heh, Nasa HD launching, just as we stop sending shuttles up

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Beirdo:

nah, just fling crap like a monkey

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gbee:

oh I do a pretty good job of tuning out and ignoring that crap, I honestly couldn't tell you a single number one for the last 5 years, MythTV has certainly helped with that

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Beirdo:

hahahah

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Beirdo:

playing music in alphabetical order by artist is evil

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Beirdo:

Metallica -> Michael Bolton

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Beirdo:

while I was in the bathroom. :) GAH

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Beirdo:

let's try The Offspring.

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kormoc:

wagnerrp, I read that as "every time i hear that... makes me want to stick penis in my ears" and I was really confused

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wagnerrp:

that no talent hack

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Beirdo:

kormoc: hahaha

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wagnerrp:

i had a great name until high school when he started releasing music

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iamlindoro:

That would be, It was a good name until I was about 12 years old and tghat no-talent ass clown started winning grammies ;)

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Beirdo:

yeah, I need to watch Office Space again

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gbee:

yeah, well just don't mix classical and metal in the same playlist, the greater range means I need to crank up the volume for the former and then the inevitable *oh crap* as I fight the wall of noise to reach the volume control

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wagnerrp:

yeah yeah... i havent been watching my monthly dosage on comedy central

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Beirdo:

hehe, wall of noise FTW

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wagnerrp:

gbee: clearly you never used your stereo as an alarm clock, and somehow mixed rage against the machine into the playlist

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Beirdo:

ahhahah

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gbee:

heh

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Beirdo:

I had a friend in University that used GNR for his alarm clock

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wagnerrp:

even worse, i had my bed lofted, since it was a small dorm room

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Beirdo:

he and his roommate likely to this day hate "Welcome to the Jungle"

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wagnerrp:

even worse, i had my computer under my bed, with big speakers duct taped to the posts of the bed

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Beirdo:

hehehe

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kormoc:

so you knocked yourself out?

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wagnerrp:

after a short intro, the 10" subs start blaring

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Beirdo:

and wagnerrp's head hits the ceiling

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wagnerrp:

almost killed myself trying to get out of bed to turn it off in a half-awake stupor

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Beirdo:

sigh. some people are oblivous :)

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Nidhoegger:

hi

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Nidhoegger:

is there a known issue with the internal player + mkv / ogm files?

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justinh:

hmmm. maybe none anyone knows about, but then that would be an unknown known issue.

[21:15:18]

justinh:

instead, why not descrbe the problem you're having?

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justinh:

then somebody might just be able to help :)

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Nidhoegger:

i have problems with playing ogm / mkv files with more than one language

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Nidhoegger:

mkv files get pixel artifacts pretty often (on my normal PC they work fine)

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Nidhoegger:

and ogm files stop every 3 seconds for a short amount of time

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Nidhoegger:

i thought it might be the video codec, but i demuxed them, muxed them to a avi file (the video uses avi, i didnt convert anything) with avidemux and they work fine

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Nidhoegger:

any idea?

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ekristen:

my frontend tells me my backend is out of date, I told it to update but nothing seems to be happening

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ekristen:

how do I upgrade from the backend?

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ekristen:

wagnerrp: you around?

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ekristen:

wagnerrp: somehow I have version 1254 but the mythproto libraries speak 1259

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