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| [01:38:51] | skd5aner: | boop boop doodily doop |
| [01:39:10] | ** skd5aner is restless ** | |
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| [01:54:06] | Beirdo: | someone put a doomsday device in ya? |
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| [02:08:53] | oobe: | I have a thing where on occasion a video will randomly play in mythvideo after i exit playback of another video |
| [02:08:59] | oobe: | it seems completely random |
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| [02:19:48] | Hilikus: | i've been having occasional problems where i open the guide while watching live tv and the guide never appears, the small window with the live feed still works normally but where the text of the guide would be there's nothing |
| [02:20:09] | Hilikus: | has this been reported? |
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| [02:37:57] | J-e-f-f-A: | ugh... my udev rules for FC8 don't work in FC13... /me is googling... :-( |
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| [04:47:03] | tvars: | Hi. I'm struggling with a LIRC issue after upgrading to Ubuntu 10.04. Would someone care to help? |
| [04:47:30] | [R]: | you have to tell us what your "issue" is before anyone can know if they can help |
| [04:48:43] | tvars: | basically remote won't work, used to work. sudo cat /dev/input/event5 shows output on remote keypresses, irw shows nothing when lircd is started |
| [04:48:53] | tvars: | I think my hardware.conf is correct |
| [04:50:01] | tvars: | i thought it may be HAL getting in the way again because when lircd is not started, remote key presses seem to be interpreted as keyboard inputs |
| [04:50:19] | tvars: | but lshal shows the device as ignored, as per my rule in /usr/share/hal/fdi/preprobe/20thirdparty/lirc.fdi |
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| [04:50:33] | [R]: | sounds like your lirc config is wrong |
| [04:51:04] | tvars: | which files should I look at other than hardware.conf? |
| [04:52:16] | tvars: | tom@mythbox:/etc/lirc$ cat hardware.conf | grep -v "#" |
| [04:52:16] | tvars: | LIRCD_ARGS="" |
| [04:52:16] | tvars: | |
| [04:52:17] | tvars: | START_LIRCMD=false |
| [04:52:18] | tvars: | |
| [04:52:18] | tvars: | LOAD_MODULES=true |
| [04:52:19] | tvars: | |
| [04:52:19] | tvars: | DRIVER="dev/input" |
| [04:52:20] | tvars: | DEVICE="/dev/input/event5" |
| [04:52:21] | tvars: | MODULES="" |
| [04:52:21] | tvars: | LIRCD_CONF="/etc/lircd/lircd.conf" |
| [04:52:22] | tvars: | LIRCMD_CONF="" |
| [04:52:22] | tvars: | REMOTE="DViCO USB Remote" |
| [04:52:22] | tvars: | REMOTE_MODULES="" |
| [04:52:23] | tvars: | REMOTE_DRIVER="dev/input" |
| [04:52:23] | tvars: | REMOTE_DEVICE="/dev/input/event5" |
| [04:52:24] | tvars: | REMOTE_LIRCD_CONF="lircd.conf" |
| [04:52:24] | tvars: | REMOTE_LIRCD_ARGS="" |
| [04:54:16] | [R]: | don't flood in here |
| [04:54:20] | [R]: | and its your lircd.conf |
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| [04:59:01] | achew22: | I just got a HD-PVR and I'm trying to set it up. I am getting a weird error though. hdpvr 1–1:1.0: untested firmware version 0x12, the driver might not work |
| [04:59:17] | achew22: | I booted into windows :( to get the firmware on there I guess that was version 0x12 |
| [04:59:35] | achew22: | then plugged it into a vanilla Karmic install where I got that message |
| [04:59:45] | achew22: | so I went and built the v4l drivers as per the wiki |
| [04:59:46] | [R]: | what makes you think it's an error |
| [04:59:46] | [R]: | ? |
| [05:00:10] | achew22: | when I cat from /dev/video0 (where it created itself) I get a borked mpeg |
| [05:00:22] | [R]: | you created it? |
| [05:00:28] | [R]: | oh... where IT |
| [05:00:32] | [R]: | achew22: borked? |
| [05:00:36] | achew22: | screwed up? |
| [05:00:39] | [R]: | meaning? |
| [05:00:43] | achew22: | skrewed up |
| [05:00:44] | [R]: | did you set the input correctly? |
| [05:00:48] | achew22: | I may not have |
| [05:01:06] | achew22: | i'm at "Testing the driver" in http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Hauppauge_HD-PVR |
| [05:01:46] | [R]: | you're sure there is a valid picture on the component? |
| [05:02:44] | achew22: | yep i'm gonna reboot really quick |
| [05:03:54] | achew22: | Yeah, same thing |
| [05:03:58] | achew22: | I get a really nice frame |
| [05:04:03] | achew22: | then it freezes |
| [05:04:24] | achew22: | on the plus side the box glows |
| [05:04:37] | [R]: | well i'd say just skip that and try to set up myth and see what happens |
| [05:04:38] | achew22: | so from an ascetics standpoint we're in the black |
| [05:05:44] | achew22: | Okay, Added it as a capture card |
| [05:05:51] | achew22: | card type: H.264... (HD-PVR) |
| [05:05:59] | achew22: | video device /dev/video0 (only choice) |
| [05:06:02] | achew22: | default input component |
| [05:06:05] | achew22: | audio SPDIF |
| [05:06:25] | achew22: | okay I tied the input connectino for component to my SD account |
| [05:06:40] | achew22: | now i'm going to sudo mythbackend and see what happens |
| [05:08:04] | achew22: | it wont let me into live tv |
| [05:08:39] | achew22: | when I started the backend I got Channel(/dev/video0)::Tune(): Error -1 while setting frequency (v2): Invalid argument |
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| [05:16:37] | achew22: | [R]: That is so freaking cool! Thank you |
| [05:17:27] | achew22: | I read that the composite cables are crap and they can cause the kind of breaking that I'm seeing. Did anyone have trouble with the cables that came in the box? |
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| [05:20:10] | kormoc: | woot is a 26" lcd tv for $254.99 |
| [05:25:52] | wagnerrp: | kormoc: any comment on last night's SQL ramblings? |
| [05:26:07] | [R]: | achew22: they work fine for me |
| [05:26:32] | achew22: | wagnerrp: was that rambling in devel or in -users? |
| [05:26:41] | achew22: | [R]: hrm. It looks like there is more tweaking to be done :) |
| [05:26:42] | kormoc: | wagnerrp, missed it |
| [05:26:48] | kormoc: | wagnerrp, will catch up in a few |
| [05:27:07] | wagnerrp: | well the initial question had been solved |
| [05:27:15] | kormoc: | ahh |
| [05:27:28] | kormoc: | that's good at least :) |
| [05:27:37] | wagnerrp: | but then later... about modifying the schema so that the 'NOT NULL' fields all have a default value |
| [05:27:53] | kormoc: | resounding *yes* :) |
| [05:28:13] | kormoc: | it's actually important for the innodb migration |
| [05:28:28] | kormoc: | as myisam will allows NULLS into NOT NULLs but innodb won't |
| [05:29:16] | wagnerrp: | myisam through the python mysql module wont allow NULLs |
| [05:29:37] | wagnerrp: | which resulted in my having to set up large blocks of default values to ensure those classes functioned properly |
| [05:29:44] | wagnerrp: | hence my wanting default values set |
| [05:30:03] | kormoc: | Well, it's more akin to the sql engine actually will inject nulls at times into not null fields |
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| [06:03:26] | oobe: | on occasion a video will randomly play in mythvideo after i exit playback of a video |
| [06:03:48] | oobe: | I am unable to reproduce it has anyone else seen this occurance |
| [06:04:48] | [R]: | sure you didn't do "play folder"? |
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| [06:11:42] | oobe: | yes |
| [06:12:07] | oobe: | if i did then i would know and i would never of mentioned it |
| [06:12:42] | oobe: | also the videos that randomly play are in completly different folders and are random |
| [06:12:55] | oobe: | as in no relation no reason for it to happen |
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| [06:17:26] | ** rhollan needs GigE networking to move his videos around. ** | |
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| [06:31:07] | jpabq: | J-e-f-f-A, Do you use USB to change channels? If so, the udev rule for gpsd gets in the way. Rename it to start with 99, and that will solve the problem. |
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| [06:54:46] | AndyCap: | jpabq: there's also last_rule |
| [06:57:06] | justinh: | heheh. I need to show this video to the ceo of the company I work for http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6XAPnuFjJc&am . . . outube_gdata |
| [06:58:10] | AndyCap: | you sure he'll take away the right things? :P |
| [07:00:33] | AndyCap: | larger reward lead to poorer performance. Hmm, Pay cuts, win-win.' |
| [07:00:35] | AndyCap: | :P |
| [07:01:57] | justinh: | oh yeah I forgot he's a total PHB |
| [07:02:24] | justinh: | not that we get bonuses anymore cos they keep moving the goal posts :) |
| [07:07:10] | justinh: | 4 more email enquiries asking what days & times training classes are on ... grrr.. why isn't it possible to send people a slap by email? |
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| [07:14:35] | justinh: | hmmm maybe where I went wrong with this site is that I didn't put myself into the brain of a stupid person first |
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| [07:15:09] | justinh: | yeah course it's all logical to *me*.. course everything's easy for *me* to find. I *look* :) |
| [07:17:33] | AndyCap: | Hm, the super powers of time talk by philip zimbardo was interesting. |
| [07:21:37] | AndyCap: | s/super/secret/ |
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| [07:33:29] | justinh: | ruh? frontend now sans audio. killed squeezeslave & now it works. don't tell me alsa virtual devices can change number too |
| [07:35:57] | justinh: | hmmm think I'll have to change my script to run it with -L, parse the result to get the right device id number. bah |
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| [10:31:31] | justinh: | time to fire up the nx client & get some theme work done in the hazy sunshine :) |
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| [12:26:38] | justinh_: | <alpha> is a very exciting effect that affects the transparency/opacity of a widget or image. LOL. We better not get animation or he'll have a heart attack |
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| [13:47:02] | justinh: | better. feel like I'm actually getting somewhere now |
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| [14:18:57] | KaZeR: | i'd need to switch my master and slave backend. any tips? |
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| [14:19:43] | wagnerrp: | go into mythtv-setup, change the IP listed as the master backend to the other machine |
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| [14:21:31] | KaZeR: | sweet. that's all what is needed? |
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| [15:37:21] | jpabq: | AndyCap, I must not have used last_rule correctly, because I could not get it to work. Finally, out of desperation, I renamed the rule, and that worked. |
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| [15:49:36] | azlon: | i am reading about JAMU on the wiki and it says it should be included in version .22 and .23 but i dont see it. how can i find out what version i am running? |
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| [15:50:24] | wagnerrp: | mythbackend --version |
| [15:51:34] | azlon: | hrmm... running .23 |
| [15:53:37] | azlon: | jamu is normally installed in /home/.mythtv right? |
| [15:54:18] | wagnerrp: | considering it comes with the mythvideo scripts, im going to say /usr/[local/]share/mythtv/mythvideo |
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| [16:34:08] | ugubabba: | hey there |
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| [16:35:01] | justinh: | ooo might be getting somewhere now http://imagebin.ca/img/XM-0p1J.png |
| [16:36:23] | ugubabba: | have a dvb-t audio problem i believe.. anyone experience there? |
| [16:36:55] | justinh: | maybe. what exactly is the issue? |
| [16:37:30] | ugubabba: | i loose the sound in irregular intervals.. changing the audio channel brings it back but its majorly annoying |
| [16:37:53] | ugubabba: | monitored it in the terminal once or twice , myth seems to loose the codec somehow |
| [16:38:07] | justinh: | how do you mean changing the audio channel? do you mean selecting a different track with the OSD menu? |
| [16:38:14] | ugubabba: | correct |
| [16:38:20] | ugubabba: | or with "+" ;) |
| [16:38:24] | justinh: | myth can't lose the codec |
| [16:38:42] | justinh: | it might be failing to identify the codec properly – which could be the fault of the broadcaster |
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| [16:39:02] | justinh: | drop some frontend log output into a pastebin & we can take a look |
| [16:39:57] | wagnerrp: | wait... pandorica? |
| [16:40:18] | justinh: | myers? |
| [16:40:37] | wagnerrp: | your screenshot |
| [16:40:43] | wagnerrp: | i thought it was 'pandora' |
| [16:40:55] | wagnerrp: | the BBC making up words again? |
| [16:41:24] | justinh: | heh |
| [16:41:30] | justinh: | kind of |
| [16:41:39] | justinh: | could be anything – it's a name after all |
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| [16:41:53] | justinh: | as Pandora's box... was er.. belonging to Pandora wasn't it? |
| [16:42:20] | justinh: | as for the plot contrivance which gets you there... meh. not quite a waste of time entirely |
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| [16:43:23] | ugubabba: | dammit.. first time i use this irc client.. dofile:///var/log/mythtv/mythfrontend.log |
| [16:43:30] | ugubabba: | that did not work apparently |
| [16:44:15] | justinh: | er.. you'll be wanting to put that into a pastebin |
| [16:44:23] | justinh: | go to pastebin.ca & paste it |
| [16:44:35] | justinh: | if you put the whole thing in here people will more than hate you for it |
| [16:44:49] | ugubabba: | hehe |
| [16:46:56] | ugubabba: | think i got it |
| [16:47:00] | ugubabba: | http://pastebin.ca/1889888 |
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| [16:50:05] | ugubabba: | uh maybe of help, i run kubuntu 10.04 , sb audigy, all myth plugins from mythbuntu |
| [16:52:11] | justinh: | hmmm can't help feel it's samplerate related |
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| [16:53:53] | ugubabba: | hmm |
| [16:54:20] | ugubabba: | can i change the samplerate for live tv somewhere? |
| [16:54:29] | justinh: | no, you get what is broadcast |
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| [16:55:29] | justinh: | so, when you get the problem on a certain channel do you have to change audio tracks every time? |
| [16:55:38] | ugubabba: | yep |
| [16:55:45] | ugubabba: | back and forth, sound comes back |
| [16:55:57] | ugubabba: | in .22 that never happened |
| [16:55:58] | justinh: | what do you mean back & forth? |
| [16:56:43] | justinh: | like say you change to channel X, there's no sound, so you select the other audio track... and that's it? or something else? |
| [16:56:48] | ugubabba: | 2nd audio track is mostly empty (occassionally theres the visual impaired track) , so i have to go back to the first |
| [16:57:11] | justinh: | ah & when you ping back to the original channel you get sound |
| [16:57:13] | justinh: | weird |
| [16:57:25] | ugubabba: | yep |
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| [16:57:35] | justinh: | you could do worse than update to a 0.23-fixes |
| [16:57:47] | justinh: | grab the mythbuntu daily/weekly builds |
| [16:58:06] | justinh: | the default version ubuntu ships is older than the official released version |
| [16:58:25] | ugubabba: | ok will try |
| [16:58:35] | ugubabba: | nothing to loose ;) |
| [16:58:42] | ugubabba: | thanks for your help |
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| [17:13:05] | justinh: | whoah. way less clutter if you make the inactive recordings buttonlists empty |
| [17:13:18] | ** justinh suddenly warms to fanart ** | |
| [17:17:02] | EvilGuru: | Does anyone else see judder every now and then when watching 50FPS (25FPS PAL deinterlaced) on a 60Hz screen? |
| [17:28:01] | EvilGuru: | Seems as if a 5:6 pulldown would be useful |
| [17:28:49] | wagnerrp: | the video card should manage the frame duplication automatically |
| [17:32:13] | EvilGuru: | wagnerrp: That is what is driving me crazy, the frame duplication |
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| [17:33:32] | EvilGuru: | some frames are duplicated, some are not, and so I observe judder every now and then (mainly for scrolling text) |
| [17:34:09] | wagnerrp: | so you actually /want/ interlaced content? |
| [17:34:52] | EvilGuru: | I believe motion interpolation is a closer term |
| [17:35:41] | kormoc: | why don't you output at 50 htz |
| [17:36:01] | kormoc: | motion interpolation won't help if it's frequency jitter |
| [17:36:15] | wagnerrp: | somehow he managed to get PAL content in an ATSC country |
| [17:36:18] | EvilGuru: | kormoc: it is my computer, as opposed to a TV |
| [17:36:19] | kormoc: | "PAL material in which 2:3 pulldown has been applied, suffers from a similar lack of smoothness, though this effect is not usually called ?telecine judder?. Effectively, every 12th film frame is displayed for the duration of three PAL fields (60 milliseconds), whereas the other 11 frames are all displayed for the duration of two PAL fields (40 milliseconds). This causes a slight ?hiccup? in the video about twice a second" |
| [17:36:28] | EvilGuru: | and my computer monitor is 60Hz |
| [17:37:14] | kormoc: | most computer monitors have a range of frequencies |
| [17:37:32] | wagnerrp: | other option would be to speed up playback by 20% |
| [17:37:45] | wagnerrp: | mythtv will automatically adjust the audio frequency to match |
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| [17:38:34] | AndyCap: | why would pal material have 2:3 pulldown? |
| [17:38:48] | AndyCap: | 3:2? |
| [17:38:54] | kormoc: | Quoting wikipedia |
| [17:39:03] | AndyCap: | ohh |
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| [18:31:15] | wagnerrp: | quiet day.... |
| [18:32:23] | rhollan: | yup |
| [18:32:36] | rhollan: | Going to reconfigure my network and try to learn some LDAP concepts |
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| [18:45:17] | cesc: | just one simple question. How difficult for a noob is to install mythtv on ubuntu? Would be better to install MythBuntu in a different partition, different than ubuntu? |
| [18:47:27] | wagnerrp: | ubuntu plus the mythtv packages is little different than mythbuntu |
| [18:47:57] | wagnerrp: | the big changes is mythbuntu uses Xfce (since gnome is overkill for a dedicated frontend), and does not install pulseaudio |
| [18:48:26] | wagnerrp: | 0.23 and pulseaudio do not mix |
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| [18:58:03] | cesc: | so which one would you recommend me to install? I currently have ubuntu 10.4 installed. Would you install mythtv on my lucid lynx or would you prefer to install mythbuntu in a different partition? |
| [18:59:16] | wagnerrp: | this sounds like its not going to be a dedicated machine |
| [19:00:19] | cesc: | no it's not |
| [19:00:26] | wagnerrp: | then i wouldnt install either |
| [19:00:59] | cesc: | would you pick up any other program to see tv on my pc then? |
| [19:01:16] | wagnerrp: | you just want to watch tv? you have no intention to record? |
| [19:02:14] | cesc: | yes I'd love to be able to record programs even if I'm working sometimes... for instance if a football game in on TV while I'm working. Then be able to watch it later on. |
| [19:02:38] | cesc: | I've a big external HD 1.5 TB |
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| [19:14:13] | rhollan: | I would reccomend dedicating a machine to mythtv if you plan to record... otherwise, you might find recording interfering with other work you do on that machine. |
| [19:14:30] | rhollan: | And, in that case, I've been happy with Mythbuntu |
| [19:14:55] | wagnerrp: | or more importantly, mythtv might find other work you do on that machine interfering with recording |
| [19:15:03] | rhollan: | Installing mythtv on a "regular" Linux box is good for "playing" with it, though |
| [19:15:49] | rhollan: | That said, I DO plan on having my mythtv box do other low-processing-overhead things, like sink email for my domain, and proxy-cache DNS |
| [19:16:40] | rhollan: | With all the work I did ripping all my content, I really don't want it on a machine where I make lots of system changes (that, and my daughter watches from the mythtv box). |
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| [19:23:04] | rhollan: | hmm. mythfilldatabase does not seem to run automagically |
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| [19:31:42] | clever: | rhollan: it has to be enabled in the setup somewhere |
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| [19:57:02] | wagnerrp: | why would you write a wiki article that repeatedly linked back to itself |
| [19:57:10] | wagnerrp: | whats the point of linking to a page youre already on |
| [19:57:38] | kormoc: | SEO Baby! |
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| [20:02:57] | rhollan: | clever: yeah, I figured as much. |
| [20:04:35] | rhollan: | the key word is "somewhere" |
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| [20:22:19] | stevieman: | I have an old P4 1.8 box that I am trying to use for a myth front end. Even with Bob 2x running I get stuttery video from the HD OTA feed (I don't have an HD TV) The 5200 doesn't cut it. Would a 6600 give me stutterless video? |
| [20:23:25] | wagnerrp: | no |
| [20:26:07] | stevieman: | do I need to goto something in the 7000 series? |
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| [20:26:20] | stevieman: | I don't have a PCI-E slot |
| [20:26:31] | wagnerrp: | 7000 series wont cut it either |
| [20:27:00] | sid3windr: | I think you need viddy pow! |
| [20:27:09] | sid3windr: | 9600 PCI or so? |
| [20:27:22] | stevieman: | seriously? it's barely studdering with the 5200 |
| [20:27:55] | sid3windr: | wagnerrp knows more than me.. :) |
| [20:28:30] | wagnerrp: | if youve still got a P4 1.8, your computer is 8yrs old and you should consider upgrading |
| [20:29:23] | sid3windr: | and sell the old junk to clever |
| [20:29:39] | sid3windr: | he'll be happy to have a new "best" machine |
| [20:29:40] | sid3windr: | ;) |
| [20:30:25] | stevieman: | I was looking at http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/XvMC:Example_CPU_Savings and a 2.26 with a 5200 seems to work pretty good so I figured a 1.8 with a stronger video card would work too |
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| [20:31:36] | wagnerrp: | there is no 'stronger video card' |
| [20:31:43] | wagnerrp: | XvMC is a static quantity |
| [20:31:48] | wagnerrp: | and it only provides partial offload |
| [20:32:55] | stevieman: | So a 7300GT isn't any better than a 5200? For video only I assume you mean. |
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| [20:33:55] | wagnerrp: | actually, i dont think the 7000 series even supports XvMC |
| [20:34:17] | stevieman: | arg |
| [20:34:34] | stevieman: | you are just full of good news today arn't you ;) |
| [20:34:52] | sid3windr: | so how 'bout vdpau with a 9xxxx in pci, wagnerrp ? that could work couldn't it? |
| [20:34:59] | sid3windr: | s/xxxx/xxx/ |
| [20:35:05] | wagnerrp: | sure... but PCI video cards suck |
| [20:35:15] | sid3windr: | true that |
| [20:35:18] | wagnerrp: | better to just upgrade and be done with it |
| [20:35:20] | sid3windr: | but if one really doesn't want to upgrade ;) |
| [20:35:24] | stevieman: | no vdpau on AGP correct |
| [20:35:28] | wagnerrp: | correct |
| [20:35:33] | kormoc: | one should get a job and upgrade :P |
| [20:35:56] | stevieman: | one has a job, but also a house kids, cars yadda yadda yadda :) |
| [20:36:14] | kormoc: | get the kids to get a job! |
| [20:36:17] | rhollan: | Use that old computer for a backend, and get a decent front end. |
| [20:36:47] | rhollan: | really, nvidia ION is starting to look quite attractive. |
| [20:36:51] | sid3windr: | yup |
| [20:36:55] | sid3windr: | was just gonna say that :) |
| [20:37:06] | sid3windr: | a nice atom based silent board with vdpau gpu |
| [20:37:42] | stevieman: | well I think my cheapest option is a better P4 cpu. In the short term anyways |
| [20:37:53] | wagnerrp: | i would recommend using something more powerful than an atom for anything running a backend |
| [20:39:10] | wagnerrp: | stevieman: no, you'll be hard pressed to find a Socket 478 processor these days, and if you do, it will be exceedingly expensive, and only a moderate upgrade from your current processor |
| [20:39:42] | rhollan: | Really, things have gotten cheaper. |
| [20:39:47] | [R]: | wagnerrp: would commflag benefit any much from 64bit? |
| [20:39:48] | stevieman: | wagnerrp: I'd only pick one up used if I get one. I wouldnt by one new |
| [20:39:59] | [R]: | wagnerrp: given the same processor |
| [20:40:04] | rhollan: | Look at an HP 310 nettop. |
| [20:40:08] | wagnerrp: | [R]: no, not significantly |
| [20:40:09] | rhollan: | seriously. |
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| [20:40:18] | rhollan: | Add a USB drive and tuner and you are done. |
| [20:40:42] | rhollan: | Not the FASTEST option, but quiet and can render HD |
| [20:40:51] | [R]: | wagnerrp: thats what i thought |
| [20:41:00] | stevieman: | well thanks for the tips, Im off to enjoy my rain filled day |
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| [20:42:26] | wagnerrp: | huh... guess i was wrong about S478 stuff being expensive |
| [20:42:42] | dan4dm: | hi – getting lots of mythbackend.log errors about "Duplicate entry" eg http://pastebin.com/acBXncZ6 – any hints pls on what to try? |
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| [20:43:35] | wagnerrp: | looks like problems with your xmltv grabber |
| [20:43:52] | wagnerrp: | trying to provide listings for multiple programs on the same channel and time |
| [20:45:09] | dan4dm: | ah ok, that's helpful to know, wouldn't have guessed. those questionmarks in the attempted query are normal or unusual? |
| [20:45:27] | dan4dm: | oh no i see |
| [20:45:35] | dan4dm: | the questionmarks are where the bindings go |
| [20:45:44] | wagnerrp: | thats how the QT mysql stuff works |
| [20:45:45] | wagnerrp: | right |
| [20:46:33] | wagnerrp: | i dont know why it would be updating |
| [20:46:48] | wagnerrp: | are you running EIT or something? |
| [20:48:12] | dan4dm: | TBH i don't know. i have a fairly unmodified mythbuntu 0.23, 2 x DVB-T, not sure if EIT is involved... |
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| [20:51:54] | dan4dm: | ok, i have a video source named "TransmittedGuide" with Listings Guide set as "Transmitted Only (EIT)" |
| [20:52:49] | dan4dm: | it's the only one in the list of Video Sources, don't remember setting it up so I guess it came with that |
| [20:53:37] | dan4dm: | is it a good idea to change it to an xmltv source instead (uk, so radio times)? |
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| [21:28:39] | dan4dm: | uk's rt xmltv seems not to include the radio channels? |
| [21:28:59] | rhollan: | off topic but /me is trying to udnerstand LDAP in depth |
| [21:35:11] | justinh: | dan4dm: nah it doesn't... nick – maintainer of tv_grab_uk_rt has discussed it with radiotimes I think but so far nothing forthcoming. til then, EIT ftw |
| [21:35:40] | justinh: | dan4dm: I use uk_rt for TV channels & EIT for radio |
| [21:37:06] | justinh: | I can't remember how I did it but whatever I did it's been that way for years now |
| [21:38:30] | justinh: | ah yes. one video source, set to use xmltv (tv_grab_uk_rt) *and* to use EIT |
| [21:38:48] | justinh: | but, on my TV channels I've set their xmltvids and useonairguide=0 |
| [21:39:01] | justinh: | and on radio channels, no xmltvid (obviously) and useonairguide=1 |
| [21:39:31] | dan4dm: | justinh: aha, crafty |
| [21:39:54] | justinh: | dan4dm: the important part is not mixing things up |
| [21:40:09] | justinh: | i.e. don't set useonairguide to 1 for channels where there's xmltv data |
| [21:40:27] | justinh: | or you'll get loads of messages about duplicate entries etc I expect ;) |
| [21:40:40] | justinh: | that's *if* you already use xmltv |
| [21:41:40] | dan4dm: | ok i think for the time being i'll stick with EIT, just truncate and refresh it and see if the duplicate msgs go away |
| [21:41:54] | justinh: | dan4dm: is it total log jam? |
| [21:42:25] | justinh: | AFAIK occasional entries in there could just be times being updated on the fly – which is the utter advantage in using EIT data |
| [21:42:35] | justinh: | least in the UK where it's updated very regularly |
| [21:42:50] | justinh: | like when Wimbledon overruns by 15 hours ;) |
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| [21:43:38] | dan4dm: | ah ok; well it's not filling up my HD with the messages... possibly just as you say |
| [21:45:35] | justinh: | reminds me I prolly need to rescan at some point.. gah |
| [21:45:40] | justinh: | I *hate* freeview for that |
| [21:49:16] | justinh: | went to the flicks tonight. god, film needs a FPS upgrade SO badly |
| [21:49:28] | justinh: | to heck with 3d |
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| [22:18:08] | AndyCap: | justinh: maybe in another 20 years when everyone thinks rolling shutter is how "film" should look. |
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| [22:19:23] | justinh: | time to peek in the source & maybe update the wiki with my findings.. if any |
| [22:23:51] | wagnerrp: | AndyCap: it will be for the 'artistic' directors, the black-and-white of the future |
| [22:24:46] | wagnerrp: | justinh: cinema films are already higher framerate, usually 48 or 72 fps |
| [22:25:19] | justinh: | wagnerrp: ahh digital projection.. heh. never seen anything digitally projected yet AFAIK |
| [22:25:39] | skd5aner: | justinh: it's hard to NOT find digital projection in the states anymore |
| [22:26:02] | skd5aner: | film is a dying breed it seems |
| [22:26:22] | justinh: | heh |
| [22:26:27] | skd5aner: | but, I didn't know that they weren't still projected at 24fps |
| [22:26:53] | highzeth: | justinh: heh, yeah, I had 2 hours post puffer on the finals, extended to 10 now just to be safe. Wont be home when it happens ;P |
| [22:27:01] | highzeth: | s/puffer/buffer |
| [22:28:30] | wagnerrp: | skd5aner: whats that? most theaters only have one one or two of their halls switched to digital |
| [22:28:38] | wagnerrp: | at least in the cinemas around here |
| [22:29:32] | skd5aner: | wagnerrp: hmmm, well... I'd say about 50% around me, but I generally go to the newer theaters. I'm sure the smaller/older ones probably aren't all the way there yet |
| [22:29:44] | highzeth: | think all are digital here apart from the movie club where all the buffs meet and watch the classics =) |
| [22:30:00] | skd5aner: | wife wants to go see Toy Story 3 tonight |
| [22:30:06] | skd5aner: | imax 3d |
| [22:30:14] | wagnerrp: | i guess the places around here would rather spend money on better seats, and cheaper concessions |
| [22:31:07] | skd5aner: | I'm not really in the mood, since my car got towed earlier today during the US world cup game X( |
| [22:31:29] | wagnerrp: | broken or illegally parked? |
| [22:31:47] | skd5aner: | apparently, illegally parked... it became a valet parking zone at 4PM |
| [22:31:55] | skd5aner: | they towed it at 4:03 :P |
| [22:32:08] | [R]: | that's called efficiency |
| [22:32:11] | wagnerrp: | any nearby posted signs to indicate it as such? |
| [22:32:20] | skd5aner: | Wasn't marked as such, we stared at the signs for about 10 minutes trying to figure out where that was marked |
| [22:32:34] | skd5aner: | It talked about M-F no parking times, but not Saturday/Weekend |
| [22:32:45] | wagnerrp: | if its not readily marked, thats completely bogus |
| [22:33:02] | wagnerrp: | sue them for illegal seizure |
| [22:33:26] | skd5aner: | That's what I said – but the towing company does what the city tells them... I can't really do anything about it except pick up the car and maybe deal with the city on Monday |
| [22:33:26] | AndyCap: | wagnerrp: are they actually at 48fps or just showing 24 frames twice each like they used to? |
| [22:33:44] | wagnerrp: | AndyCap: they could just be doubling/tripling frames |
| [22:34:51] | skd5aner: | wagnerrp: they towed about 10 cars :P |
| [22:34:59] | skd5aner: | so, it wasn't like I was the dumb sucker who didn't read the signs |
| [22:35:12] | wagnerrp: | contact the other people, file a class action suit |
| [22:35:19] | wagnerrp: | everyone gets screwed by the lawyers! |
| [22:35:21] | skd5aner: | ha... |
| [22:36:42] | skd5aner: | This is one of those times where it's not worth the fight, not for me at least :/ |
| [22:37:28] | skd5aner: | I do wish that it was clearly my fault though, I would just feel dumb, not mad |
| [22:38:19] | AndyCap: | heh, reminds me of a wikipedia article I stumbled across recently. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predatory_towing |
| [22:38:37] | skd5aner: | alright – off to try to salvage the rest of the weekend, with $110 less in my pocket |
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| [22:57:37] | justinh: | LOL. Mythbusters = news? I do not think |
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| [23:08:28] | wagnerrp: | AndyCap: predatory tweeting? is that using twitter to figure out who isnt home and is thus available to rob? |
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