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Monday, May 31st, 2010, 00:01 UTC
[00:01:48] J-e-f-f-A: wagnerrp, I was going to persue making my own ir blaster with a usb-enabled PIC, but I had not found the time to do so. (Plus I haven't toyed around with the usb-enabled PICs yet) – but since I've gone HD and can now control my STB's with Firewire, I don't need lirc anymore...
[00:02:06] [R]: control over firewire is the best
[00:02:15] [R]: thats what i use
[00:03:19] J-e-f-f-A: Yeah... that reminds me... I updated the 6200ch program to have an optional 'delay' parameter – .5 seconds in-between 'key presses' was ridiculously slow... I'm using 10ms now, and my channel change happens in < 1 sec. ;-)
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[00:03:32] ** J-e-f-f-A must update the wiki. ;-) **
[00:03:44] [R]: what i really hate is how much the scientific atlanta boxes suck
[00:03:52] [R]: and you can only do channel or power, and not any panel controls
[00:04:43] J-e-f-f-A: [R], Humm... Well, I've got FiOS with the Motorola QIP7100 boxes – I leave them on 24x7, and only do the channel changing.
[00:05:04] [R]: i want to be able to do the EXIT button
[00:05:13] [R]: cuz right now i have like a 3 second sleep after i cahnge the channel
[00:05:17] [R]: to let the osd lear
[00:05:34] J-e-f-f-A: [R], The one on the Wiki has 'exit' – check it out, perhaps it will work on the SA box?
[00:06:05] [R]: no
[00:06:07] [R]: i just said
[00:06:07] J-e-f-f-A: [R], I put an exit command right after my channel change – ie "6200ch -e -g myguidhere"  ;-)
[00:06:11] [R]: [05:03:51] [R] and you can only do channel or power, and not any panel controls
[00:07:11] J-e-f-f-A: [R], So you did try it then... Ok, The source that was included with 0.22-fixes didn't have the 'exit' or 'menu' functions, but the one on the wiki does.
[00:08:06] [R]: yeah, i've spent hours upon hours screwin around with it
[00:08:55] [R]: i wound up writing my own channel changer script too
[00:10:36] J-e-f-f-A: [R], Like I said, I modified 6200ch.c to accept an optional parameter for the inter-digit delay, but other than that, it's the 'stock' program. My channel changer scripts have the channel change command, then the 'exit' command, then a 2 second delay. Seems to work perfect so far.
[00:11:26] J-e-f-f-A: (I've only had the FiOS setup since Friday morning, and only got the firewire stuff all working yesterday after getting a new firewire card with more ports... [the 7100 only has one firewire port])
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[00:27:32] [R]: weird, consistently, the 3rd time i change the channel from the guide
[00:27:33] [R]: it crashes
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[00:40:49] [R]: it's like clockwork
[00:40:51] [R]: eveyr time
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[00:53:44] ElBano: hi
[00:53:52] ElBano: i have had problems with mythweb for quite some time after some rpm upgrades
[00:53:54] ElBano: mostly unusable now
[00:56:21] sphery: wagnerrp: gotta love how on NCIS: LA, they got the Conficker worm ("Trojan Horse virus, Conficker variant, F Type strain" in their words) in the op center. Maybe they should have applied those Windows security fixes, after all.  :) Also funny that shutting down their computers shuts down all their cell phone numbers.
[00:56:31] sphery: ElBano: we'll need info on what is happening/what's not working
[00:58:00] ElBano: for one thing, it sits there an awful long time now at http://localhost/mythweb
[00:58:04] ElBano: doing nothing
[00:58:25] sphery: php installed? properly configured?
[01:00:00] sphery: ElBano: check out the MythWeb README file and verify your PHP and mythweb configuration
[01:00:05] russell5: mythtv is pissing me off today i keep getting NVP(0): Timed out waiting for free video buffers. with choppy playback and cant fix
[01:00:14] ElBano: User Notice at /usr/share/mythweb/classes/MythBackend.php, line 102:
[01:00:14] ElBano: Unexpected response to MYTH_PROTO_VERSION '56':
[01:00:28] ElBano: User Notice at /usr/share/mythweb/classes/MythBackend.php, line 124:
[01:00:28] ElBano: Failed to set php timezone to
[01:00:30] sphery: ElBano: and then what?
[01:00:34] ElBano: and then the last
[01:00:40] ElBano: Warning at /usr/share/mythweb/modules/_shared/tmpl/default/header.php, line 16:
[01:00:40] ElBano: Cannot modify header information – headers already sent by (output started at /usr/share/mythweb/includes/errors.php:148)
[01:00:43] sphery: does it say something about expected protocol version?
[01:01:01] ElBano: you mean this?
[01:01:06] ElBano: Unexpected response to MYTH_PROTO_VERSION '56':
[01:01:19] sphery: that's the unexpected one
[01:01:23] sphery: what's the expected one
[01:01:34] ElBano: it doesnt seem to say
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[01:02:27] sphery: basically 56 is the protocol version for 0.23-fixes
[01:02:38] sphery: So I'm guessing your backend is 0.23-fixes
[01:02:56] sphery: your MythWeb is likely either trunk (57) or 0.22-fixes (50)
[01:03:12] sphery: either way, you need to get the proper version of MythWeb
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[01:05:41] ElBano: well, im using the rpms:O
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[01:05:47] ElBano: and they just got upgraded again, but the problems seem to remain
[01:09:03] sphery: ElBano: I'd suggest uninstalling all mythtv-related RPMs, then verifying there's nothing left from older versions
[01:09:07] sphery: then reinstall them
[01:09:26] sphery: shouldn't affect your DB, but make a backup beforehand, just in case: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Database_Backup_and_Restore
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[01:16:50] ElBano: ok
[01:17:22] ElBano: i cant do yum remove myth* it seems
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[01:39:55] Pwen: does anyone know how to reenable the ipod/iphone interface on mythweb? I can only ever get the normal pc versoion on my iphone since accidentally touching the "reset to defaults" link
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[01:40:57] [R]: is there a commadn to wipe out all guide data?
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[01:42:36] stib: Hi – I'm having trouble playing theora encoded ogv files. The picture breaks up all over the place, on both high and low bitrate movies. I'm using mythtv 0.23 on a core2 quad machine
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[01:45:23] [R]: what does the frontend say?
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[01:47:17] stib: nothin, it just plays the video. This is playing a video from the hdd. It's fine with all sorts of other videos, just not ogg/theora
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[01:56:13] [R]: in the log i mean
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[02:19:36] Pluribus: Hello all. Anyone alive in here that may be able to point me in the correct direction to troubleshot an audio issue?
[02:20:24] Pluribus: (Running Trunk if it helps as the hdaudio merge made MOST things work for me)
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[02:37:09] PennStateJoe74: good day folks! I'm still working on my initial install of mythtv trying to run hdpvr with directv d-11 box with LiveTV (i know – bad idea! – but I'm determined to figure it out).
[02:37:29] PennStateJoe74: I'm soooo close – I can almost see myself relaxing on the couch watching TV!!
[02:38:11] PennStateJoe74: I have directv.pl script working from command line – and have confirmed it is controlling my STB.
[02:39:03] PennStateJoe74: video card = 8800 gts – i'm running "slim" as my playback profile
[02:39:27] PennStateJoe74: when i click watch live tv – I get nothing! it times out after a few seconds and goes back to main menus
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[03:00:35] k-man: does mythtv support pulseaudio?
[03:01:39] PennStateJoe741: yes
[03:01:39] wagnerrp: that depends
[03:01:44] wagnerrp: what version are you running
[03:03:25] wagnerrp: PennStateJoe741: check your backend logs for errors
[03:05:21] Pluribus: Anyone know what a fair number of my videos would output a stream of "channel element 3.0 is not allocated" errors. I suspect it is due to me haveing configured Stereo output and the input file is 5.1 AAC.
[03:05:46] Pluribus: Configuring 5.1 output stops the errors, but alas, I dont yet have a 5.1 system :-(
[03:07:57] Pluribus: (Running trunk post hdaudio merge (r24907))
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[03:09:03] jya: Pluribus: if the content you war playing is 5.1 AAC, then it makes no difference between playing them on a stereo or 5.1 system as far as the decoding is concerned
[03:09:15] jya: this channel element 3.0 error is a ffmpeg message
[03:09:36] jya: post hdaudio , all channels are decoded (here 6)
[03:10:14] Pluribus: BTW, thanks for getting it working as far as it is :-) It finally let me drop mplayer.
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[03:10:35] jya: so I don't believe you would see "channel element 3.0 is not allocated" errors, if you set stereo output, but don't see it if you set 5.1
[03:10:58] jya: mplayer doesn't play 5.1 AAC on a stereo system properly btw, myth is much better there now
[03:12:07] jya: if you have issue decoding AAC with the internal ffmpeg decoder, try compiling myth with --enable-libfaad
[03:12:25] Pluribus: I do get them... Any way to isolate them a little further? (These are MP4 files if it matters to the decoders)
[03:12:35] jya: for the time being libfaad is more complete than ffmpeg internal decoder
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[03:12:55] jya: you wrote "Configuring 5.1 output stops the errors, but alas"
[03:13:00] jya: so which one is it ?
[03:13:29] Pluribus: Ok, Under the audio config, I normally run with "Stereo" That generates the errors.
[03:13:55] jya: and if you set 5.1, you don't ?
[03:14:03] Pluribus: If I set it to 5.1, the errors stop, but the I (of course) dont get the most of the audio channels as I ONLY have stereo.
[03:14:03] jya: probably because then you get no sound at all ? :)
[03:14:19] jya: sorry, but that doesn't make sense...
[03:14:38] Pluribus: If I set 5.1 I hear music and what sounds like partially spatialized sound.
[03:14:43] jya: what you set in the user settings: stereo or 5.1, has now nothing to do with how the video is decoded
[03:14:58] Pluribus: No VIDEO plays 100% fine all the time.
[03:14:59] jya: the error you mention are in the decoder
[03:15:18] jya: so 5.1 or stereo, the audio is decoded the same way
[03:15:20] Pluribus: Ahhh, I understand the confusion now.
[03:15:31] jya: so it can NOT make a difference in the error messages you are seeting
[03:15:36] Pluribus: The error message is video related not audio
[03:15:51] Pluribus: Ok.. So red herring...
[03:16:17] Pluribus: Is that a correct statement?
[03:16:25] jya: so let's restart from scratch...
[03:16:41] jya: what problem do you have with the playback, ignore the messages in the logs
[03:17:20] Pluribus: Ok, when I play some mp4 files, (I encode them with 5.1 AAC all the time)
[03:17:33] Pluribus: SOME of them, I get no audio.
[03:17:57] Pluribus: If I set my speaker configuration to 5.1, I hear music and some spatialized audio.
[03:18:23] Pluribus: (The 5.1 behavior is expected on a strictly stereo system)
[03:18:40] jya: what's your audio configuration?
[03:18:49] Pluribus: I switch back to stereo speaker config, no audio and streams of errors in the logs.
[03:19:05] Pluribus: Audio is HDMI via a NVIDIA GT220
[03:19:15] jya: Pluribus: stop trying to diagnose the problems, your conclusions are wrong to start with...
[03:19:20] Pluribus: Stereo speakers on the TV basicly
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[03:19:28] jya: just tell me the symptoms
[03:19:50] jya: what audio output device have you set in the config?
[03:20:09] Pluribus: hdmi:CARD=NVidia
[03:20:31] jya: is that what shows in the list, or you typed that
[03:20:39] Pluribus: List showed it.
[03:21:00] Pluribus: ALSA:default didnt work for me, that one did.
[03:21:14] jya: ALSA:default is your front left/right speakers
[03:21:19] jya: won't work through hdmi
[03:21:32] Pluribus: Makes sense then.
[03:21:47] jya: so you have ALSA:hdmi in your audio config
[03:21:57] jya: set to stereo
[03:22:04] Pluribus: Correct.
[03:22:13] jya: anything in advanced?
[03:22:20] Pluribus: Nothing
[03:22:25] jya: unchecked?
[03:22:40] jya: what version of mythtv?
[03:23:15] Pluribus: truk current as about 45 minutes ago.
[03:23:19] Pluribus: er trunk
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[03:24:02] jya: ok.
[03:24:28] jya: play your video, with -v audio,playback and post the full output somewhere (pastebin.com)
[03:24:51] Pluribus: 10–4 be back less than 10 minutes
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[03:29:12] hipitihop: I'm finding the fact that a great majority of DVD's can't be played on my myth box is frustrating. I know it is not mythtv fault. does anyone know if there is firmware or commercially available DVD drives available which can play commercial DVD's ?
[03:30:24] oobe: mythmusic wouldnt work for me at all until created a special asoundconf that made hdmi default then set mythtv to use alsa:default
[03:30:27] jya: hipitihop: what are you on about ?
[03:30:29] Pluribus: http://pastebin.com/bbcABAfk
[03:31:14] Kazan: anyone had the problem where their emu10k1 card has volume levels through the roof?
[03:31:26] Kazan: and alsamixer won't work
[03:31:46] Kazan: get an "ALSA lib pulse .... unable to connect: connection refused"
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[03:32:06] hipitihop: jya, If I go to my local DVD hire place, or I purchase other commercial DVD's , most of them cannot be played on my mythbox. I assume this is all related to copy protection being enforced by dvd drive firmware or somesuch
[03:32:11] Bigshot: anyone from toronto?
[03:32:23] Bigshot: I need frequency of citytv
[03:32:35] jya: hipitihop: you have an incorrect assumption...
[03:33:07] jya: Pluribus:show me the log with audio set to 5.1 , no other modification...
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[03:33:37] Bigshot: how do I get frequencies for channels in toronto?
[03:33:39] hipitihop: jya, happy to be wrong ... please elaborate
[03:33:56] Pluribus: 10–4 coming up
[03:34:00] jya: Pluribus: uncheck AC3, DTS, and check PCM box
[03:34:30] jya: hipitihop: what's the brand of your dvd drive?
[03:35:21] Bigshot: come oun guyz
[03:36:17] hipitihop: jya, Lite On SATA Slim DVD-RW Tray Loading DS-8A2S, 24x24x24 – 8x8x8(8x6x),DVDRAM5X, DL
[03:36:54] Bigshot: how do I get frequencies for channels in toronto?
[03:37:13] jya: hipitihop: AFAIK, you don't need a special firmware for that drive, they don't enforce region locking like matshita or LG drives do
[03:37:56] jya: hipitihop: so all you have to install is libdvdcss
[03:38:20] hipitihop: jya, I don't believe it is a region locking issue ... I'm trying to play DVD's from my region
[03:38:56] jya: then, your issues has zero to do with the drive firmware or whatever you think it was...
[03:38:56] jya: t
[03:38:57] jya: o
[03:39:16] jya: play encrypted DVD, you need to install libdvdcss
[03:39:20] Bigshot: how do I get frequencies for channels in toronto?
[03:39:49] jya: Bigshot: if you didn't get your answer the first time, why do you think asking 10 times your questions will help.
[03:39:50] hipitihop: jya, I see, sounds promising, how can I tell if I have that loaded ?
[03:40:03] jya: what linux are you using ?
[03:40:10] Bigshot: jya, ubuntu
[03:40:16] hipitihop: mythbuntu
[03:40:37] jya: enable the medibuntu repository
[03:40:42] jya: and install libdvdcss2
[03:41:04] jya: and then play your dvd
[03:41:56] Bigshot: man mythtv-users are dumb
[03:41:57] hipitihop: jya, apt says I already have newest version
[03:42:35] jya: hipitihop: have you tried playing the DVD with say VLC ?
[03:43:10] hipitihop: jya, no I haven't .. good point, maybe it is the internal vs other methods
[03:43:49] jya: if it plays in VLC, then may be worth creating a ticket with the output of mythfrontend started with -v playback
[03:44:12] jya: so we can see the errors and what's going on
[03:45:01] Pluribus: Ok, I catch the point in troubleshooting too much. Same video now does EXACTLY the same thing with 5.1. I still captured the requested information in case it is useful. http://pastebin.com/g7StudkW
[03:45:26] jya: Pluribus: of course it does exactly the same thing :)
[03:45:44] jya: told you so earlier... just wanted to confirm
[03:45:55] jya: who encodes audio at 24kHz anyway?
[03:46:16] Pluribus: NERO recode ...
[03:46:28] Pluribus: Yes, I now realize bad idea...
[03:46:31] jya: you must have told it to use 24kHz
[03:46:38] Pluribus: Nope default setting.
[03:46:41] jya: this is a very unusual samplingrate
[03:46:59] jya: makes no difference in the end, as myth will resample it
[03:47:32] jya: anyhow... it's a decoding error... try installing libfaad2 and recompile mythtv with --enable-libfaad
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[03:48:27] jya: libfaad was written by the folks at Nero, so if they can't decode the crap they encoded...
[03:49:17] Pluribus: Cool, is that the decoder that myth is generally heading for or ffmpeg? Any way that I can help make it better with the planned decoder? (Any yes, I will build against libfaad2 as well)
[03:49:32] jya: this is all ffmpeg stuff
[03:49:40] jya: either ffmpeg uses its internal decoder
[03:49:43] jya: or it uses libfaad
[03:50:27] Pluribus: Ah, ok. Be back in 10–15 after a rebuild :-)
[03:50:27] jya: libfaad support is going to be dropped at some stage... but in the mean time, libfaad often does a better job that the internal decoder
[03:50:44] jya: don't have to do a make clean on the whole lot
[03:51:01] jya: just go in libmyth/avcode ; make clean
[03:51:06] Bigshot: jya, where to go to get frequencies/
[03:51:07] jya: then re-run configure
[03:51:34] jya: Bigshot: I'm dumb remember, I don't know how to google
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[03:51:44] Bigshot: yo dude jya
[03:51:49] Bigshot: I treid a hell feck lot
[03:51:54] Bigshot: but want' able to get it
[03:51:58] Bigshot: tried many ways
[03:52:29] jya: look like you are as dumb as I am then...
[03:52:38] Bigshot: hell no
[03:52:48] jya: the difference is I don't give a damn about toronto
[03:52:59] Bigshot: who the fuck cares
[03:53:15] Bigshot: I don't give a damn about where you live etiher
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[03:55:14] jams: guess he doen't live up to his nick
[03:55:20] Pluribus: jya: do you mean libs/libavcodec?
[03:55:28] jya: no
[03:55:36] jya: I mean libmyth/libavcodec
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[03:57:39] Pluribus: Doesnt exist that I can find. Top of checkout... mythtv/libs/libmyth doesnt have any subdirectories. (other than .svn)
[03:57:50] jams: jya, does your audio work include proper oss4 support?
[03:57:53] jya: ??
[03:58:31] jya: let say that i'm fairly confident i'm right:)
[03:58:44] jya: jams: no
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[03:58:58] jams: k
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[04:00:23] jya: Pluribus: mythtv/libs/libavcodec
[04:00:26] Pluribus: Ok, but http://svn.mythtv.org/svn/trunk/mythtv/libs/libmyth/ doesnt have it either :-(
[04:00:33] Pluribus: Ah, ok.
[04:00:38] jya: my bad, was good the first time :)
[04:02:51] Pluribus: No problem, it will save a ton of build time
[04:04:10] Pluribus: Hmm, configure doesnt say tell me it IS configured. (It is silent about it either way)
[04:05:28] Pluribus: But config.h has it, so I should be good.
[04:08:18] jya: well, either it will work... You you'll have to re-encode your video with something else
[04:08:45] Pluribus: Will this change the API any (IE – Should I rebuild mythvideo? )
[04:08:46] jya: You made me doubt myself for a seconds with your works if I set 5.1 but not stereo
[04:10:08] Pluribus: sorry about that. I must have gotten myself messed up trying to isolate it myself.
[04:10:24] jya: Pluribus: now
[04:10:32] jya: this is only related to the internal decoder
[04:10:48] Pluribus: Ok, just checking...
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[04:11:13] jya: Pluribus: the think I changed in the new audio code, is that for AAC, we always decode all audio channels available, and downmix as needed.
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[04:11:22] jya: because ffmpeg is unable to properly downmix those
[04:11:35] jya: so if you decode for stereo, you only get left/right and miss out on the rest
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[04:11:49] jya: libfaad does properly downmix AAC
[04:12:10] jya: but as I didn't want to test AAC internal or AAC libfaad, myth does it own downmix
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[04:17:31] Pluribus: I think the reconfigure triggered a full build anyway... oh well.
[04:19:10] Pluribus: (And to think that I have been using myth since 0.18 and am just now living on trunk...)
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[04:23:08] Pluribus: ok built lets go test... wish me luck
[04:31:09] Pluribus: libfaad2 works.
[04:32:06] Pluribus: I will go through all my video over the next few days and make sure they now work properly. (First time with ONLY myth internal player)
[04:32:23] jya: no more decoding errors?
[04:32:25] jya: great
[04:32:39] Pluribus: Nope, ran clean.
[04:33:00] jya: may be worth trying the latest ffmpeg/ffplay and lodge a bug upstream
[04:34:38] Pluribus: Sounds good. I am just happy you got me off of mplayer :-) These videos were the only reason I still used it... I love storage groups now :-)
[04:34:59] jya: you were okay with mplayer before?
[04:35:10] jya: you would have missed the center channels too with it
[04:35:33] Pluribus: With just stereo, I never noticed it missing.
[04:35:40] jya: weird
[04:36:12] Pluribus: Now it did have a hellish time figuring out the mplayer commands to downmix...
[04:37:09] Pluribus: af=pan=2:1:0:0:1:1:0:0:1:0.5:0.5:1:1 is the magic for mplayer
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[04:39:53] Pluribus: never mind me, it just occured to me, that what I WAS missing was the center channels since speech is probably going to come out center on a 5.1 system.
[04:40:48] Pluribus: IE – What I did notice when playing my videos was that I heard music and all speech was VERY low volume like it was only what was spilling to side channels.
[04:41:10] Pluribus: The audio filter above maps the 5.1 channels to left-right only.
[04:41:22] jya: well, your "magic" isn't really proper downmix either :)
[04:41:41] jya: myth downmix using Dolby Pro-Logic II matrices
[04:42:04] jya: just in case someone still use those
[04:42:30] Pluribus: I dont need them anymore :-) mplayer is gone now that Internal works for me :-)
[04:43:53] Pluribus: between the hdaudio code merge and libfaad2, I would bet the majorify of my videos will work great, been trying various ones for the last 5–6 minutes everything working so far.
[04:44:57] Pluribus: I REALLY need to get myself a 5.1 system and forget this whole stereo thing anyway :-)
[04:48:17] Pluribus: Hey, I finally joined the 21st century and got a HDTV set...
[04:49:17] Pluribus: Either way, thank you for your assistance again, jya.
[04:49:28] jya: you're welcome
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[05:19:28] Beirdo: wagnerrp: yeah, but mine will be better
[05:19:29] Beirdo: hehe
[05:19:41] ** Beirdo curses glibc **
[05:19:54] Beirdo: I just do NOT get this
[05:31:49] ** wagnerrp hugs generators **
[05:35:19] Beirdo: that might be toastily painful
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[05:35:53] wagnerrp: http://docs.python.org/tutorial/classes.html#generators
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[05:44:18] Beirdo: oh, that kinda generator... not the gasoline-powered puppy for running your power tools in the middle of nowhere :)
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[06:31:05] Beirdo: I wonder if somehow the problem isn't in my custom memory alloc stuff
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[08:11:21] Beirdo: gah, found my dang problem
[08:12:25] justinh: sigh. are users going to be hell bent on preventing mythtv moving forward for all time?
[08:12:38] Beirdo: heh
[08:12:45] Beirdo: probably
[08:13:16] Beirdo: I hate glibc. Adding undocumented alignment requirements to pthreads structures.
[08:13:19] Beirdo: thanks
[08:13:28] justinh: ouch
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[08:13:44] Beirdo: just spent 2 days chasing a bug that shouldn't be
[08:13:46] Beirdo: heh
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[08:13:58] Beirdo: as I have my own memory allocator...
[08:14:50] Beirdo: which I now get to add an "aligned allocate"
[08:14:52] Beirdo: to
[08:14:53] Beirdo: heh
[08:15:24] Beirdo: but at least I finally FOUND the problem
[08:15:42] Beirdo: what it shows as.... 100% CPU usage
[08:16:17] Beirdo: as the internals of glibc's handling of pthread_cond_wait is stupid and doesn't error out if futex gives an error message
[08:16:28] Beirdo: and it's the futex itself that truly needs to be aligned
[08:17:16] Beirdo: strace showed futex spewing EINVAL because the futex wasn't aligned (now that's more of a DUH for me!) :)
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[08:59:30] banksy: RDV_Linux 20hrs ago – thanks for responding regarding current state of mythnetvision and audio streams
[09:02:14] banksy: Next Q: Running 0.23 fixes. What plugin do people recommend if I want to play 2 or 3 internet radio streams (m3u with mp3 inside I assume). Was using mythstream in 0.22 but not in 0.23. Or should I do something clever with filetypes in mythvideo?
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[09:10:58] Beirdo: YAY. fixed
[09:11:56] Beirdo: gotta get rid of a lousy warning though
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[10:41:26] k-man: how can i get mythtv and mpd to share audio output?
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[10:45:37] Golffies: Hi k-man; 'mdp' stands for 'mplayer' or something else ?
[10:46:23] xand: mpd is music player daemon
[10:47:25] k-man: Golffies: what xand said
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[11:06:29] Golffies: Thanks, and what is the issue here ? When running mythtv, ALSA sound device cannot be accessed by music player daemon anymore ?
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[11:16:02] k-man: Golffies: well, yeah, basically mpd or mythtv-frontend hogs the sound device depending on which one starts first
[11:29:26] Golffies: Ok, sorry for asking as you are looking rather for someone able to answer :-)
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[11:39:52] dan4dm: k-man: what's the q?
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[11:54:34] k-man: how can i make mpd and mythtv-frontend share the audio output device, or mix the output of the two
[11:55:07] k-man: how is pulseaudio support in .23?
[11:56:09] GreyFoxx: practically nonexistant
[11:56:19] GreyFoxx: myth disables pulse if it's running I believe
[11:56:42] k-man: hehe oh – not what i was hoping for
[11:56:55] k-man: so what are my options?
[11:57:22] GreyFoxx: no clue, I don't live in pulseaudio world so I don't have to deal with it :)
[11:58:05] k-man: well, i was more asking if you might have any idea how i can get mpd and mythtv to share audio output stream
[11:58:12] k-man: or output device
[11:58:32] GreyFoxx: never used mpd either
[12:01:10] k-man: GreyFoxx: well, so far it looks good, but i need to make it share the audio device with mythtv
[12:05:30] wagnerrp: k-man: mythtv will happily share an ALSA device if you have one capable of hardware muxing
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[12:11:42] k-man: wagnerrp: ok, what should i read up on to learn more? hardware muxing?
[12:12:05] k-man: is that using dmix?
[12:12:19] wagnerrp: if you have a pulse-built system, chances are the people who built your system for you disabled all output from all programs besides pulse
[12:12:39] wagnerrp: wasnt that nice of them....
[12:12:41] k-man: debian squeeze
[12:14:43] k-man: i don't think pulseaudio is installed on my system
[12:16:19] k-man: there seems to be a fair few tickets that mention pulseaudio in trac
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[12:42:27] the_dime_bar: hi can myth tv be used as a dlna server
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[13:07:12] Golffies: @ the_dime_bar: according to http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/UPnP answer seems to be positive ; under LinHES, I noticed a "Fuppes" UPnP client that could easily be activated. Well, is the embedded MythTV UPnP server able to deal with DLNA clients, or is an add-on such as Fuppes requiered ? I did not test.
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[13:16:43] Golffies: My mythbox suffers this bug http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/7784. It has been locked a few weeks ago, so no more comments can be added. When developers lock a ticket, does it mean there is only slim hope to see the trouble solved ?
[13:17:18] iamlindoro: No, we lock a ticket because some idiot decides the rules of our ticket system don't apply to them
[13:17:58] iamlindoro: ie, they want to argue about our ticket administration instead of adding information relevant to the bug itself
[13:18:10] Golffies: Understand
[13:18:44] iamlindoro: It still remains an open bug, and it still gets addressed when appropriate
[13:20:49] Golffies: I wanted to copy-paste there details about my mythbox, in hope it could help. In such a case, are you used to unlock the ticket after a few weeks passed away ?
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[13:21:55] iamlindoro: Golffies, We don't need any further information on that ticket. In fact, it's *probably* already fixed in trunk. I appreciate your interest in getting it fixed, but if more information is required then the ticket status will be set to infoneeded and specific information would be requested
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[13:22:24] Golffies: It's all right.
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[13:26:16] mahr83: After playing a dvd in mythtv the interface disappears, I have to reset the frontend, it works fine up until I play a dvd which plays, then it dies.. I have to remove the dvd then restart the frontend
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[13:33:50] Kazan: i installed myth with pulseaudio support.. if i rip pulse out of the system, i assume i need to recompile to remove that or encounter segfaults? :D
[13:36:41] Golffies: May someone give me a hand on scan problems I have with my DVB card ? "scan -a 0 /usr/share/dvb-utils/scan/dvb-s/Hotbird-13.0E" just completes a scan of the two first transponders; "scan -a 0-n -l UNIVERSAL /usr/share/dvb-utils/scan/dvb-s/Hotbird-13.0E" does not give better results. Where to find an already ready channels.conf file for Hotbird-13.0E, to compare what is inside ?
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[13:43:37] dan4dm: Kazan: why rip it out? do you just want to stop pulse from autostarting?
[13:44:52] dan4dm: Kazan: to disable PA http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7821384&postcount=8
[13:45:28] Kazan: dan4dm: pulse is a disaster and it is preventing my soundblaster live from workin correctly
[13:46:11] Kazan: im going to try to use my motherboards onboard HD audio (*Rolleyes*) and see if that resolves the problem
[13:46:19] Kazan: pulse cannot handle mixing the frequencies correctly
[13:46:47] dan4dm: Kazan: do the disable, should be ok? pulse can be a pain (I mostly use jack...) but once you know how to kill PA it's ok
[13:47:00] sid3windr: =)
[13:48:11] Kazan: the onboard HD audio works right
[13:48:18] Kazan: it is just the soundblaster card that doesn't get along it seems
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[14:02:23] jarle: I have a recording schedule that records several different titles (description and subtitle are empty) Is there some way to only record one showing of each title that the rule matches?
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[14:04:12] clever: 'record once' under the rule type at the top
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[14:07:39] wagnerrp: Kazan: 'pulse support' in 0.23 is merely the ability to disable pulse audio
[14:07:50] wagnerrp: if pulse is not found running, it will just not do anything
[14:08:12] wagnerrp: however you will have problems if the shared library no longer exists to link to
[14:08:19] jarle: clever: this will make the recording rule continue to work for new titles matching the rule, even if the rule has resulted in a match already?
[14:08:50] clever: not sure
[14:09:20] jarle: clever: I was of the impression that the rule would be deleted as soon as *one* show was recorded...
[14:09:39] clever: and when you dont have wildcards in the rule, that works just fine
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[14:14:56] jarle: clever: my problem is that the program guide has the title set to "<title>: <subtitle>" So I use wildcards to match '<title>%' Eventually I should write a patch to just fixup the eit, but right now I would just like to create a rule that will not record more than one show of <title>: <subtitle>, however record each new instance where <subtitle> differs..
[14:15:18] clever: ah
[14:15:59] clever: my best idea would be a php script in crontab that fixes up the program table
[14:16:09] clever: and if any rows where updated, tell the backend to resched
[14:17:19] ** wagnerrp suggests you use the php bindings for that **
[14:17:48] jarle: clever: actually this should probably be done in mythtv/libs/libmythtv/eitfixup.cpp instead.
[14:18:13] clever: yeah, that looks like a much better place
[14:18:20] clever: fix it before it even touches program
[14:19:36] jarle: clever: I have already written some code to fix other eit stuff, I was just wondering if there was a temp way to fix this without writing patches :)
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[14:52:21] tmkt: any one know why my hvr-1600 remote would all of sudden half work after a recent update? anything changed here? or should i be checking with the lirc people
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[14:55:49] tank-man: updated what?
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[15:00:24] Kazan: the orange connector for the center and sub channel.. are those two separate channels, or are they intermixed?
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[15:02:49] tmkt: updated 0.23 packages to most recent deb release
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[15:39:40] liminal: hello
[15:39:58] liminal: im having trouble connecting to the database during mythtvbackend setup
[15:40:10] liminal: can someone help me troubleshoot
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[15:42:29] liminal: im unable to ping it during ping verfication stage
[15:48:53] wagnerrp: is the database running?
[15:49:12] wagnerrp: are you connecting from a remote machine? if so, do you have mysql set up to listen on the network?
[15:49:22] liminal: im local
[15:49:32] liminal: how do i start the database
[15:49:44] wagnerrp: thats something to ask in #your-distro
[15:49:55] liminal: ubuntu
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[16:05:33] liminal: my sql demon is running i have confirmed
[16:05:49] liminal: i dont know why i can't ping the standard mythtv database
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[16:49:35] liminal: hello
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[16:56:24] PennStateJoe: Anyone familiar with using freemote control with Storm 2 with mythtv? I'm trying to set this up with my external stb to channel change.
[16:58:10] justinh: freemote control? wth?!
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[17:00:51] PennStateJoe: http://www.accentual.com/freemote/
[17:00:52] justinh: hahahah what a crock http://www.intelligentfurniture.co.uk/hiw.aspx
[17:01:23] justinh: ooo even bigger meh. smartphone as a remote :-\
[17:01:46] PennStateJoe: ...?
[17:02:43] justinh: what's so wrong with using a *remote* as a remote?
[17:03:39] iamlindoro: It's just like a remote, only without all the intuitive design and tactile feedback!
[17:04:23] justinh: isn't the telnet interface a bit laggy compared to IR/RF remotes using lirc or whatever anyway?
[17:04:33] PennStateJoe: An IR remote requires line of sight. This allows bluetooth or wifi connection to fronted and backed machines. My setup will have server in basement right underneath my living room.
[17:04:59] justinh: my backend machine is in a cupboard outside the livingroom :-)
[17:05:22] justinh: line of sight.. pfft. my remote has over 10 metres range – it just has to be in the same room
[17:06:10] justinh: anyway I doubt you'll find anybody here familiar with using 'freemote'
[17:06:34] justinh: it's not likely any use for changing channels on a set top box anyway
[17:06:49] justinh: you'll still need an IR blaster for that I'll bet
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[17:07:36] ** iamlindoro frowns at TMDB **
[17:07:40] iamlindoro: take my upload, stupid!
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[17:08:43] wagnerrp: justinh: telnet is perfectly quick for me, check out mythremctl
[17:09:13] wagnerrp: was never more than a frame or two lag even over wireless
[17:09:26] iamlindoro: Oh that's helpful
[17:09:30] iamlindoro: max upload is 1 MB
[17:09:38] iamlindoro: but if you try to upload over 1 MB, it just sits there forever
[17:09:43] wagnerrp: hehe
[17:09:47] liminal: im trying to install mythtv on ubuntu, after i select my language i get an error message 'no upnp'
[17:10:04] liminal: what does this mean? i then seem unable to connect to my database
[17:10:09] justinh: liminal: try reading the ubuntu community docs about mythtv
[17:10:09] wagnerrp: liminal: it means it cannot find your backend over upnp
[17:10:35] wagnerrp: if youre setting up the frontend, the backend needs to be running
[17:10:50] wagnerrp: if youre setting up the backend, you need to specify your database credentials manually
[17:11:05] wagnerrp: although to be honest, i thought mythbuntu had automated most of that stuff
[17:12:05] justinh: wagnerrp: it's still possible to mash the return key & miss everything pertinent
[17:12:15] justinh: oh go away you pesky popups!
[17:12:17] justinh: ahhh
[17:12:25] justinh: now.. oh damn it's not working! HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[17:12:56] wagnerrp: yeah, i dont like touchscreen remotes either
[17:17:39] wagnerrp: wtf would you use sshfs to share your video directory...
[17:19:30] justinh: wth? I changed my frontend's IP address & now it's wanting to go through setup stages again
[17:20:03] justinh: IP address mind you, not hostname
[17:21:02] Pluribus: Can that new IP connect to the database and does that IP resolve to the same name on the backend?
[17:21:35] Pluribus: Those are usually the issues that I have when I switch frontend IP addresses
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[17:22:19] justinh: yes
[17:22:53] justinh: fixed it
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[17:51:14] mcl0vin: anyone here using mythtv with ubuntu?
[17:51:49] mcl0vin: also i am wondering if anyone using Hauppage HVR 1600 ? did you managed to get your remote ctrl working?
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[17:52:40] tank-man: sounds like ubuntu problem, heard another person saying controller broke in an update
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[17:54:45] RobertLaptop: Question I have several backends and thanks to hardware failure I have a bunch of shows that have files on the HD and data in the database but myth ins't linking the two. What is the best way to reconnect those files to there data?
[17:56:18] mcl0vin: tank-man: thanks that helps alot
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[18:00:36] liminal: my mythtv install doesnt seem to have included a UPnP-server
[18:00:42] liminal: which is why it cant talk to my database
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[18:02:52] tank-man: mcl0vin, well it means if you are doing it the automated way in current ubuntu, it is not going to work. you have to read the README files to get it to work
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[18:04:10] mcl0vin: tank-man: i am not doing it the auto way....i complied it...which READ ME u ref too please
[18:06:15] tank-man: I don't have the hvr 1600, but do have the pvr250 and setup lirc before. which part of the setup did not work for you. I don't want to play 20 questions. its easier to diagnose your problem when you tell what youve done and what isnt working
[18:07:44] mcl0vin: tank-man: well , i compiled it and trying to config it , but i don't see it in dmesg or its not in and /dev/input/event
[18:08:23] mcl0vin: tank-man: and when i 'cat /proc/bus/input/devices' i don't see any trace of IR
[18:08:25] tank-man: did you load the kernel module?
[18:08:32] tank-man: after compiling
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[18:09:49] mcl0vin: tank-man: which one , i don't know
[18:13:11] tank-man: when i setup lirc, this is the msg i get before compiling "You will have to use the lirc_i2c kernel module.
[18:13:11] tank-man: Now enter 'make' and 'make install' to compile and install the package."
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[18:13:43] tank-man: did you see a similar message before typing "make" ?
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[18:17:41] liminal: has anyone got mythtv going on ubuntu lucid lynx?
[18:18:15] wagnerrp: im sure thousands of people have
[18:21:00] mcl0vin: tank-man: yes
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[18:23:39] wagnerrp: liminal: mythtv comes with its own upnp server
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[18:24:01] wagnerrp: the only reason it wouldnt be running is if you had told mythtv to only listen on 127.0.0.1
[18:24:26] wagnerrp: in which case you wouldnt need it anyway, because you already have the necessary credential file for mythfrontend to use
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[18:42:00] wagnerrp: havent seen that face in a while
[18:42:04] wagnerrp: !seen kormoc
[18:42:04] MythLogBot: kormoc was last seen 7 days 1 hour 25 minutes 17 seconds ago
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[18:42:12] wagnerrp: well.. maybe not that long
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[19:15:39] iamlindoro: kormoc, Heh, have you been saving up your fixes?
[19:17:16] ** kormoc laughs **
[19:17:24] kormoc: Nah, just found some time :)
[19:18:24] iamlindoro: cool, glad you still love us :)
[19:18:28] iamlindoro: well, tolerate us
[19:19:03] wagnerrp: well, wouldnt like to see us die in a fire
[19:19:18] iamlindoro: just be very badly burned
[19:19:37] ** kormoc laughs **
[19:21:51] iamlindoro: I wonder how much hate mail I will get when the users list reads my message and hones in on "I am dumping all the secondary movie scripts"
[19:23:36] wagnerrp: well to be fair, Capt'M was going to dump them anyway as soon as he got around to the recording/video merger
[19:23:51] wagnerrp: do any of those secondary ones actually function as a grabber?
[19:23:58] iamlindoro: How would that have happened? His merge doesn't have anything to do with grabbers
[19:24:08] wagnerrp: all the ones i saw hit the database directly for updates
[19:24:12] iamlindoro: there are multiple non-english grabbers, those are the ones to be dumped
[19:24:24] iamlindoro: None of them touch the DB
[19:24:35] iamlindoro: I am referring to the contents of mythvideo/scripts/Movie
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[19:29:55] ** wagnerrp would take a swipe at bash **
[19:30:10] iamlindoro: heh
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[19:30:54] [R]: am i missing something? where is the 'create account' link on the trac?
[19:31:14] wagnerrp: i use bash all the time, but something just seems... wrong to me... piping together fetch, wget, curl, awk, grep, sed, and a dozen other programs to beat a webpage into submission
[19:31:18] wagnerrp: [R]: doesnt exist
[19:31:56] wagnerrp: however you can specify your name in preferences --> general
[19:31:57] [R]: hrm
[19:31:59] [R]: ah
[19:32:00] wagnerrp: it will be kept in a cookie
[19:32:12] [R]: mmm cookies
[19:32:15] [R]: i finally finished my patch!
[19:32:18] [R]: its like 2 lines!
[19:32:37] wagnerrp: tickets can be opened and patches can be uploaded by anyone
[19:32:44] wagnerrp: logins are just needed for management duties
[19:32:54] [R]: ah
[19:33:10] [R]: you said duty
[19:33:11] [R]: :)
[19:33:12] [R]: lol
[19:33:30] wagnerrp: !trout [R] doody
[19:33:30] ** MythLogBot slaps [R] with a doody trout on behalf of wagnerrp... **
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[19:34:07] [R]: lol
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[19:40:59] mcl0vin: tank-man: are you still around
[19:41:49] [R]: wagnerrp: are excessivly long explanations in tickets ok?
[19:43:26] Golffies: Hi,
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[19:45:06] ElBano: hi
[19:45:16] liminal: wagnerrp the upnp server install on my mythtv doesnt appear to be working
[19:45:28] ElBano: i uninstalled then reinstalled myth and mythweb
[19:45:34] ElBano: but im still getting an error with mythweb
[19:45:43] ElBano: User Notice at /usr/share/mythweb/classes/MythBackend.php, line 102:
[19:45:43] ElBano: Unexpected response to MYTH_PROTO_VERSION '56':
[19:45:55] ElBano: Warning at /usr/share/mythweb/modules/_shared/tmpl/default/header.php, line 16:
[19:45:55] ElBano: Cannot modify header information – headers already sent by (output started at /usr/share/mythweb/includes/errors.php:148)
[19:46:55] kormoc: ElBano: you need to use the same version of mythweb and mythbackend
[19:48:08] ElBano: mythweb-0.23–1.fc12.x86_64
[19:48:08] ElBano: mythtv-backend-0.23–1.fc12.x86_64
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[19:52:40] kormoc: well, the mismatched proto is claiming otherwise
[19:52:45] kormoc: something's weird
[19:54:06] liminal: wagnerrp i didnt tell mythtv to do anything upnp wise, just the standard install.
[19:55:00] liminal: Im selecting lanuage and straight away it gives me an error message saying 'no upnp' OK
[19:56:20] wagnerrp: liminal: are you setting up the frontend or backend?
[19:56:38] liminal: wagnerrp either
[19:56:53] wagnerrp: [R]: the more clear and succinct the ticket is, the more likely someone is going to bother dealing with it
[19:57:10] [R]: well i think it explains it nicely
[19:57:33] [R]: i'll add a quick summary and then an explanation
[19:58:28] wagnerrp: liminal: if you specify a routable IP for the backend to listen on, it will enable the UPnP server
[19:58:52] wagnerrp: then if you specify a PIN, it will respond to searches
[19:59:15] wagnerrp: that search will allow a frontend or slave backend to search for the master backend, and pull the database configuration from it
[19:59:26] wagnerrp: rather than having to specify it manually on each machine
[19:59:49] liminal: wagnerrp im trying to talk to the mysql database on 'localhost'
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[20:00:33] wagnerrp: kormoc: thats not a mismatched proto, thats a bad response
[20:01:57] kormoc: oh whoops
[20:02:14] Golffies: Trying to import a channels.conf file with myth-setup, I get a pop-up message : "cannot tune channels", or something close. What might be wrong ?
[20:02:24] [R]: wagnerrp: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/8519
[20:02:46] ElBano: kormoc, what can i do?
[20:03:45] liminal: wagnerrp how do i specify a routable IP for my upnp server?
[20:04:26] wagnerrp: liminal: are you planning on running myth on more than one machine?
[20:05:17] liminal: nope
[20:05:30] liminal: one machine will do nicely
[20:05:35] wagnerrp: then it doesnt matter
[20:05:59] wagnerrp: upnp doesnt work on one machine anyway
[20:06:11] wagnerrp: you can only be running one upnp process per machine
[20:06:19] liminal: ah.. whys it not working then
[20:06:29] wagnerrp: whats not working?
[20:07:11] liminal: backend setup, can't talk to my database
[20:07:27] wagnerrp: you havent set the credentials properly
[20:07:36] wagnerrp: or you havent actually created credentials to us
[20:07:36] wagnerrp: e
[20:07:52] wagnerrp: or you havent actually created the database to make credentials for
[20:08:09] wagnerrp: have you been following an install guide somewhere?
[20:08:17] wagnerrp: or are you just trying to fudge your way through it
[20:11:08] Beirdo: wagnerrp: I solved my odd pthreads issue
[20:11:26] Beirdo: seems pthread_cond_t now needs to be 8-byte aligned in memory
[20:11:49] Beirdo: go glibc... add new requirements that aren't in the POSIX spec.
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[20:16:07] Beirdo: so I added forced alignment to my code, and away it goes
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[20:20:29] liminal: wagnerrp i am using an install guide, and infact have installed mythtv before and had no problems
[20:21:49] liminal: when i run the fillmythtvdatabase command its giving me errors: unable to read configuration file mysql.txt
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[20:27:50] justinh: liminal: so there's a clue. what's in mysql.txt ?
[20:28:31] justinh: if it's not there, it needs to be in ~/.mythtv
[20:28:45] justinh: and if it's there it has to have the right credentials to get into the mythconverg database
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[20:29:29] wagnerrp: if you have your backend running, it should already be populated and in place
[20:29:30] liminal: its there, but its in lockdown
[20:29:40] justinh: if your install is anything like most ubuntu installs your mysql password for the mythtv database user will be randomised
[20:29:42] MTughan: Anyone know where I can get the frontend for Fedora 13? RPMFusion has 0.23 in the repos, but I need 0.22.
[20:29:47] justinh: liminal: lockdown?
[20:29:49] wagnerrp: the only reason it wouldnt is if you are trying to run your backend and mythfilldatabase as two separate users
[20:30:31] liminal: i needs root permission to access it seems
[20:30:38] justinh: ubuntu sets everything up so mythbackend runs as the 'mythtv' user btw. I really fail to see how people manage to screw up installing mythtv on ubuntu other than second-guessing or just mashing the enter key
[20:31:24] liminal: justinh i completely agree with you
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[20:31:30] liminal: so why isnt it working
[20:31:50] justinh: you really have to pay attention when it installs
[20:31:54] wagnerrp: liminal: you shouldnt, because you shouldnt be running mythbackend or mythfilldatabase as root
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[20:32:24] justinh: for one thing it randomises the mysql mythtv user credentials, and it tells you what the password is and which file it's stored in
[20:33:02] liminal: wagnerrp im running the backend configurator, its failing because it can't talk to the database, it then runs the fillmythtvdatabase command
[20:33:06] liminal: which also fails
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[20:33:11] justinh: which it would
[20:33:20] justinh: check you can log into the database
[20:33:30] justinh: mysql -u mythtv -pTHEPASSWORD
[20:33:52] justinh: where THEPASSWORD is the password stored in /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt – like the setup thing shows you
[20:34:23] justinh: if that works, then try the command "use mythconverg"
[20:34:56] liminal: ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
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[20:35:10] justinh: so the password you think is right is actually wrong
[20:35:29] justinh: or the mythtv database user hasn't been created
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[20:35:52] wagnerrp: mythtv-setup does not run mythfilldatabase, it only suggests you do so if you have never done so before
[20:35:53] liminal: i think more likely the latter
[20:35:58] justinh: I thought we'd seen the last of these kind of snafus a couple of years ago
[20:36:49] justinh: I think the only reason it'd have failed is that the mythtv packaged installer couldn't create the mythtv user – and that's likely because it didn't know the mysql root password
[20:37:06] justinh: try logging into mysql as the root mysql user then
[20:37:14] justinh: mysql -u root -pTHEROOTPASSWORD
[20:37:50] justinh: where THEROOTPASSWORD is either what you set it as when ubuntu installed mysql for you, or whatever the installer set it as for you
[20:38:08] justinh: this is the reason why I say it's important to pay attention while it's installing
[20:39:03] liminal: ERROR 1049 (42000): Unknown database 'therootpassword'
[20:39:08] liminal: werid
[20:39:10] sid3windr: lol.
[20:39:25] ** justinh gives up **
[20:39:32] liminal: why is it taking -p has a database?
[20:39:40] liminal: doesn't p stand for password?
[20:39:44] sid3windr: you put a space
[20:39:54] sid3windr: "-p" means prompt for password
[20:39:58] justinh: yeah note I didn't put a space
[20:40:21] liminal: theres a space
[20:40:25] justinh: linuxy stuff cares about things like this, and letter case.. not using numbers for alpha characters etc
[20:40:26] liminal: and it asks me for a password
[20:40:37] justinh: mysql -u root -pTHEROOTPASSWORD
[20:40:42] liminal: ah
[20:40:44] justinh: there is NO space between -p and THEPASSWORD
[20:41:29] justinh: you can say mysql -u root -p DATABASEWHICHACTUALLYEXISTS
[20:41:34] justinh: then it'll prompt for the password
[20:41:47] justinh: but the database you specify has to actually exist for it to work
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[20:42:19] liminal: ERROR 1049 (42000): Unknown database 'therootpasswordmysql'
[20:42:31] liminal: :s
[20:42:42] liminal: without the space
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[20:44:16] liminal: ah yes i was beeing a doosh
[20:44:23] liminal: okay im in as root
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[20:45:01] liminal: Your MySQL connection id is 217
[20:45:10] liminal: Server version: 5.1.41–3ubuntu12.1 (Ubuntu)
[20:45:29] kormoc: Ooh, that connection is has to be the problem, it should be 42
[20:45:51] kormoc: Given that is, after all, the answer
[20:46:47] Beirdo: heya kormoc :) ain't holidays great?
[20:47:18] kormoc: Indeed
[20:47:58] Beirdo: my brain hurts... too much fighting with pthreads
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[20:48:36] Golffies: When importing a channels.conf, myth-setup answers back: "Failed to find any channels". What might be wrong with that channels.conf file ? Thanks.
[20:48:46] liminal: justinh I can access mysql as root, why can't mythtv
[20:49:03] Greek-Boy: which motherboard can you guys recommend for a HTPC?
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[20:51:59] [R]: Greek-Boy: <insert one of the millions of random motherboards that has been discussed on the mailing list>
[20:52:28] bjd: thats like asking what car should i buy
[20:52:40] [R]: bjd: a lexus of course
[20:52:41] [R]: lol
[20:52:45] Beirdo: anything but one of the old crappy VIA chipset ones? :)
[20:52:50] Greek-Boy: lol
[20:52:50] Greek-Boy: ok
[20:52:57] Greek-Boy: I think I will go for Asus or Geforce then
[20:53:03] Greek-Boy: with a i5 processor
[20:53:15] sid3windr: a geforce motherboard with an i5 processor eh
[20:53:47] Greek-Boy: yeah
[20:53:51] Greek-Boy: :P
[20:53:56] Beirdo: good luck with that
[20:54:37] Beirdo: IIRC geforce is invariably tied to AMD processors... unless that's changed
[20:55:38] Greek-Boy: no
[20:56:11] sid3windr: amd processors will most likely be linked to amd graphics cards methinks
[20:56:13] sid3windr: not nvidia ;)
[20:56:31] iamlindoro: Beirdo, 8xxx series onboard are all AMD, 9xxx series onboard are all Intel boards
[20:56:41] Beirdo: iamlindoro: gotcha
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[20:57:46] Greek-Boy: hmmm
[20:58:07] Greek-Boy: i'm trying to decide whether to go for 2-core or quadcore on the i5
[20:58:31] Beirdo: go for 8-core :)
[20:58:37] Beirdo: heh
[20:58:44] Beirdo: it's not my money
[20:59:04] sid3windr: are there i5/7 8core? :p
[20:59:15] Greek-Boy: there is i7 8-core now
[20:59:19] sid3windr: aha
[20:59:24] sid3windr: so 16 with HT
[20:59:31] Greek-Boy: yup
[20:59:34] sid3windr: nice
[20:59:34] Beirdo: I installed Linux on a dual 8-core a few weeks back
[20:59:47] Beirdo: that was fun to see spewing
[20:59:59] Beirdo: 81k bogomips total
[21:00:18] sid3windr: because bogomips actually mean something!
[21:00:19] sid3windr: :p
[21:00:34] Beirdo: well, 16 cores total... you figure it out
[21:00:56] Beirdo: doesn't matter if bogomips are a bit bogus... 16-core is still sweet
[21:01:24] sid3windr: :)
[21:01:29] Beirdo: and bogomips ARE a valid comparison within a technology family anyways
[21:02:05] Beirdo: not cross-technology, of course
[21:02:30] sid3windr: I have 45k bogomips on a single quadcore i7 with HT .. :P
[21:03:04] Beirdo: yeah, but that's not comparable because hyperthreading isn't a full core :)
[21:03:14] Beirdo: heh
[21:03:18] Beirdo: but still nice
[21:03:35] Beirdo: I remember when I first broke the 1k bogomips barrier
[21:03:44] Beirdo: that impressed the heck out of me at the time
[21:04:52] Beirdo: of course, I started with a 40MHz 386 :)
[21:05:18] Beirdo: ahh, those were the days... took 24h to compile a 1.2 series kernel
[21:06:01] bjd: heh
[21:06:03] Beirdo: I feel old
[21:06:46] Greek-Boy: lol
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[21:08:05] lydgate: using mythtv .23, when i use edit recording, the current frame seems to "get in the way" of the frame i'm trying to edit if i skip time increments > 20 seconds
[21:08:28] lydgate: as in, if i skip ahead 1 minute, the frame 1 minute ahead will flash for a second but then be replaced by the current frame
[21:08:45] lydgate: anyone else have this problem?
[21:08:50] lydgate: it used to work, several versions ago
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[21:09:58] newbie007: hi, I'm having trouble setting up my HaughPaugh 1950 and HP 2250. Could someone help me troubleshoot?
[21:10:44] [R]: you have to tell us your "trouble" before anyone an help troubleshoot...
[21:11:23] ** Beirdo shoots some trouble... BANG! **
[21:11:27] newbie007: for the 1950, I don't have a /dev/video0 directory
[21:11:35] [R]: you wouldn't have a /dev/video0 directory
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[21:12:12] Beirdo: way to go, kormoc... mucho commits :)
[21:12:33] [R]: newbie007: with just the 1950 in, what does dmesg look like?
[21:12:33] newbie007: under mythtv-setup, add capture device I get a error saying "Failed to open"
[21:13:46] [R]: that's not what i asked...
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[21:18:09] newbie007: [R]: that's tricky, the 2250 is an internal card, I can remove it if that helps. I copied everything relevant to the 1950 to here http://pastebin.ca/1875054
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[21:19:49] [R]: and so you have no /dev/video* nodes?
[21:20:07] newbie007: no
[21:21:00] newbie007: I'm worried I missed something important, me me post the entire dmesg..
[21:21:12] [R]: #
[21:21:12] [R]: pvrusb2: registered device video0 [mpeg]
[21:21:21] [R]: if you seriously have no /dev/video0 your dist is horribly horribly broken
[21:22:47] newbie007: there were some lines that I thought were refferring to libflashplayer that I did not include, this is the full dmesg: http://pastebin.ca/1875055
[21:23:30] [R]: start the computer w/o it plugged in
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[21:23:31] [R]: then plug it in
[21:23:33] [R]: then paste dmesg
[21:24:03] newbie007: ok will do,, brb. Thanks for the help!!
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[21:26:22] Beirdo: I think I'll wait until the flurry slows before thinking of svn up _)
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[21:32:11] newbie007: [R]: http://pastebin.ca/1875063
[21:32:47] newbie007: [R]: I do have a /dev/v4l/by-path/ , not sure what that is
[21:33:20] [R]: do you have nodes in there?
[21:33:36] natanojl: kormoc: I actually thought about doing that myself last night when I went through the list of upcoming movies :)
[21:33:37] [R]: if you have no /dev/video0... you really should stop using such a crack induced distro
[21:35:00] newbie007: [R]: huh,, if I go to mythtv-setup now it is recognized
[21:35:20] [R]: lol
[21:35:35] newbie007: [R]: I'm sorry, I was "detecting" /dev/video by going to the command line typing /dev/vid<TAB><TAB><TAB>
[21:35:49] newbie007: I see it if I do a ls
[21:36:23] newbie007: it's definatly me and not the distro (fedora 13)
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[21:40:08] Beirdo: I love having backtrace ability in my code :)
[21:40:36] Beirdo: getting a log message I didn't expect... so I put a backtrace with it, and I can debug how it happened
[21:41:04] newbie007: I'm still not able to view Live TV: http://pastebin.ca/1875065
[21:41:10] drindt: how can i disable that commercial flagging is done during the recording process? its overloading my smart hardware...
[21:41:46] drindt: newbie007: what is set as the intial channel?
[21:41:52] [R]: drindt: theres a checkbox in the backend somewher
[21:42:12] [R]: newbie007: you also have no guide data
[21:42:30] drindt: newbie007: run mythfilldatabase
[21:42:49] drindt: [R]: in the backend?
[21:42:50] drindt: ok
[21:43:15] drindt: i guess then i have manually to activate the commercial flag job?
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[21:43:36] newbie007: I checked the inital channels they were set to 2 and 1 which I've now set to 3 and 6 (the latter is the 2250 HQ only)
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[21:45:32] newbie007: I tested with cat /dev/video0 > file1.mpg.. looks like the 1950 is working
[21:45:33] [R]: drindt: well you said you dont want the flagging to be done while recording... when do you want it to start? after it finishes? tehn what if you have 2 one after the other?
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[21:49:01] drindt: [R]: i would first record the entire movie, then flagging, both at one time kills the machine, it seems i have found the settings "start flagging during reording"
[21:49:35] [R]: drindt: yes, but what if you record something at 1pm that is an hour long, and then record something at 2pm that is an hour long?
[21:50:50] newbie007: I'm going to try a reboot, I deleted the card and I cannot add it back again
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[21:54:17] drindt: [R]: then the flag jobs may be queued
[21:54:32] [R]: drindt: its going to start the job after the recording finnishes
[21:54:40] drindt: i am just at home to watch my recordings
[21:55:10] drindt: [R]: with other words this setting makes no sense?
[21:55:17] [R]: what?
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[21:56:18] iamlindoro: http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/americas/05/31/ . . . .html?hpt=T1
[21:56:21] iamlindoro: holy crap
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[21:58:47] mike_hurley_1: I'm using mythbuntu's autobuilds of 0.24 and cannot get the backend to start at boot...looking at the error log it looks like the scheduler cannot find a capture card
[21:58:57] mike_hurley_1: the thing is i don't use capture cards (jsut watch videos)
[21:59:28] newbie007: I deleted the cards (to see if livetv was broken because of the 2250) and now I cannot readd it, I get a "Failed to open" message in mythtv-setup
[22:00:32] [R]: mike_hurley_1: myth w/o capture cards is an unsupported configuration
[22:00:42] [R]: newbie007: the backend isnt' running right?
[22:01:24] newbie007: no not running
[22:01:40] mike_hurley_1: [R]: is that a change is 0.24? 21, 22 and 23 supported it fine
[22:01:46] newbie007: I was able to cat /dev/video0 > file.mpg and view it though
[22:01:52] [R]: thats always been the waay it was
[22:02:05] [R]: are you sure thats the reason its not starting?
[22:02:15] mike_hurley_1: that's the only error i see int he log
[22:02:16] [R]: newbie007: screenshot!
[22:02:23] mike_hurley_1: not sure if it's a real error or more of a warning
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[22:03:52] [R]: turn on more verbose debugging
[22:04:08] mike_hurley_1: http://mythtv.pastebin.com/uL3Hs2z9
[22:04:21] [R]: i've heard you dont need a backend to use mythvideo
[22:05:26] newbie007: [R]: http://imagebin.ca/view/9_WrYx-I.html
[22:05:41] [R]: newbie007: of course it says failed to open
[22:05:49] [R]: newbie007: you have no video device...
[22:06:59] Wicked: mike_hurley_1, if your just looking for a media center and not planning on capturing tv from a tv card....there are other alternitives.....mythtv is really more focused on recording of tv
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[22:07:27] newbie007: [R]: ? why wouldn't I, and how do I get it back?
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[22:08:25] [R]: newbie007: you type it in...
[22:09:15] newbie007: [R]: I never did before,, it does work
[22:09:45] [R]: well now its blank
[22:10:50] newbie007: [R]: thanks, I was assuming that it was an indication of something else being wrong
[22:11:08] newbie007: great it's working thanks!
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[22:25:26] newbie007: exit
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[22:26:10] i_is_cat: my cable provider had some channel changes recently and i dont know what to do to get mythtv to recognize it...
[22:27:31] i_is_cat: ive gone to schedules direct and checked out the lineup and it looks fine, i did a mythfilldatabase but it didnt update the channels so i did a channel scan and refetched listings from the source etc. still nothing.
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[22:28:33] i_is_cat: then i went into the channel editor and manually changed all their info so its correct, so now i have the correct channel name and icon but all the listings for the channel are listings for what the channel used to be...
[22:29:03] i_is_cat: isnt there a simple way to go about this? :(
[22:33:14] sphery: i_is_cat: if you hadn't edited the DB directly, there's a simple way (mythfilldatabase --refresh-all)
[22:33:22] i_is_cat: dang
[22:33:39] sphery: since you edited the DB directly, I'd recommend the video sources portion of: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/264034#264034
[22:33:59] i_is_cat: thanks :)
[22:34:27] sphery: but, basically, when it happens next time, you have to rescan, then update xmltvids, then mythfilldatabase --refresh-all
[22:34:37] sphery: or just do the video sources portion of the above
[22:34:51] sphery: (works fine as a first solution, too :)
[22:35:17] i_is_cat: good to know ty :)
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[23:32:08] hipitihop: mcl0vin, I'm using the mythbuntu distro
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[23:36:22] wagnerrp: iamlindoro: seems that hole had absolutely nothing to do with the tropical storm
[23:36:39] wagnerrp: it opened up in late february from a ruptured sewer
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[23:36:59] jolaren: Anyone managed to view the flash or the asx recordings from mythweb onto a mobile device?
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[23:41:44] squish102: i have sound going through hdmi, how do i know if it is 5.1?
[23:42:31] squish102: i guess a line in .asoundrc = 'channels 2' is probably key here
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[23:50:58] [R]: squish102: what is it going to?
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