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| [00:16:20] | Some_Person: | I'm trying to set MythTV up for ATSC over-the-air, and it isn't detecting many of my channels |
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| [00:17:20] | Some_Person: | Every time I run the channel scanner, it seems to randomly detect some of my channels but not others |
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| [00:19:08] | cesman: | Some_Person: first guess would be signal. I'd check antennaweb.org to ensure you are pointed in the right direction |
| [00:19:25] | Some_Person: | I can receive everything on 4 other receivers |
| [00:19:42] | Some_Person: | same antenna |
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| [00:21:03] | wagnerrp: | are those four other devices all connected to the antenna simultaneously? |
| [00:21:34] | Some_Person: | Yes, but not all are being used |
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| [00:22:38] | wagnerrp: | do you have a lot of high-rise buildings around you? |
| [00:22:42] | wagnerrp: | is the antenna below the tree line? |
| [00:22:53] | Some_Person: | Not really, I'm in a large 2-story apartment complex |
| [00:22:58] | Some_Person: | It's on a table in my living room |
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| [00:23:29] | wagnerrp: | im just wondering if you could be getting multipath issues |
| [00:23:40] | wagnerrp: | low level buildings, probably not significant |
| [00:23:50] | wagnerrp: | meaning its probably only signal strength |
| [00:24:00] | Some_Person: | I am having no signal issues on any other receivers |
| [00:24:05] | wagnerrp: | tuner cards are often more finicky than those found in TVs |
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| [00:24:33] | Some_Person: | 3 of my other receivers are cheap converter boxes, the fourth is built into a DVD recorder |
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| [00:25:49] | Some_Person: | After multiple scans, I have been able to set every channel into the lineup, except KPRC (real channel 35/virtual channel 2) |
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| [00:30:55] | wagnerrp: | bah |
| [00:31:02] | Some_Person: | nevermind, got it |
| [00:31:09] | wagnerrp: | even Jobs has that 'sent from my <whatever>' crap |
| [00:31:14] | Some_Person: | and everything actually works in the frontend |
| [00:31:23] | ThisOtherGuy: | hey everybody |
| [00:31:42] | wagnerrp: | http://blogs.fsfe.org/hugo/2010/04/open-lette . . . -jobs/#sjobs |
| [00:31:44] | ThisOtherGuy: | I saw all of the recent clang commits – can anyone explain what that is? |
| [00:31:52] | Some_Person: | even the low power godblasters are coming in (though I'm going to delete those) |
| [00:32:27] | wagnerrp: | something to do with OSX |
| [00:33:07] | wagnerrp: | ah, no |
| [00:33:14] | wagnerrp: | just sponsored by apple |
| [00:33:42] | wagnerrp: | seems someone was using its static analyzer to check the code base |
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| [01:16:15] | janneg: | wagnerrp: just the compiler and it's warnings, I'm too dumb to run the analyser |
| [01:16:43] | janneg: | ThisOtherGuy: clang is an alternice c/c++ compiler using llvm |
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| [01:48:43] | Beirdo: | my brain hurts |
| [01:50:46] | ** wagnerrp seems to have broken the bindings ** | |
| [01:51:26] | mag0o: | super glue! |
| [01:52:44] | Beirdo: | OK, time to head home... so I can pack... to go to Philly on Sunday :) |
| [01:55:21] | wagnerrp: | !trout Beirdo cheesesteak |
| [01:55:21] | ** MythLogBot slaps Beirdo with a cheesesteak trout on behalf of wagnerrp... ** | |
| [01:55:38] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [01:55:42] | Beirdo: | yeah, hopefully |
| [01:57:41] | wagnerrp: | you just got there, and already you want to leave? |
| [01:57:49] | wagnerrp: | seattle must suck |
| [01:57:58] | Beirdo: | no no... going to the Philly office for training for a couple weeks :) |
| [01:57:59] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [01:58:15] | Beirdo: | the hopefully was for the cheesesteak :) |
| [01:59:15] | Beirdo: | I like it here in Seattle, but training happens, and all ;0 |
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| [02:02:00] | Beirdo: | anywho... I have temporary internet tonight :) |
| [02:02:14] | Beirdo: | so I'm sure I'll be on later |
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| [02:29:57] | wagnerrp: | what is someone doing running trunk and python2.5 anyway |
| [02:31:55] | wagnerrp: | wait, python2.5 does understand the 'with' clause |
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| [02:54:19] | ver: | the thing about python... |
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| [03:08:03] | Beirdo: | woohoo |
| [03:08:10] | Beirdo: | temporary internet :) |
| [03:08:33] | Beirdo: | sprint mobile hotspot borrowed... |
| [03:09:23] | ** wagnerrp waits patiently for the rest of ver's comment ** | |
| [03:10:37] | Beirdo: | the thing with python... is it's a sneaky snake |
| [03:11:06] | wagnerrp: | python just has so much love to give |
| [03:11:12] | wagnerrp: | it hugs you and wont let go |
| [03:11:40] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [03:13:03] | ver: | hehe |
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| [03:27:36] | wagnerrp: | how do people make it to trac without doing a bit of googling on their own? |
| [03:29:20] | mag0o: | google "mythtv bug" |
| [03:29:23] | mag0o: | ;) |
| [03:29:40] | wagnerrp: | how about the error you received |
| [03:29:53] | wagnerrp: | 'table marked as crashed and should be repaired', i think ill file a bug against mythtv |
| [03:29:58] | mag0o: | hehe |
| [03:30:26] | wagnerrp: | that should instantly take you to a mysql support page, or forum, or something |
| [03:30:37] | wagnerrp: | and you should be able to find the commands you need in under 30 seconds |
| [03:30:59] | wagnerrp: | im certain it took far longer than that to find the mythtv trac and open a new ticket |
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| [05:10:51] | Beirdo: | bleh |
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| [05:15:47] | pfunk: | anyone here encountered this recently? https://bugs.launchpad.net/mythtv/+bug/229797 |
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| [05:21:51] | tank-man: | for those that don't want to click it (or hate urls with no description), the 'title' of the bug is "Recording will not commence until a PMT is set. " |
| [05:22:00] | tank-man: | :P |
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| [05:25:17] | pfunk: | tank-man: thanks. recently i've be plagued by failed recordings that spam the backend with this |
| [05:25:41] | pfunk: | trying to get to the bottom |
| [05:26:12] | tank-man: | I don't know what PMT is, but why not try setting it |
| [05:28:40] | pfunk: | as far as I can google, PMT has something to do with captions |
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| [05:30:20] | pfunk: | its weird really, this only seems to hit my air2pc cards and only on certain channels |
| [05:30:46] | pfunk: | but there is no pattern. it will pick up a show one day, and produce this error another |
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| [05:58:36] | wagnerrp: | pfunk: still around? are you trying to record digital cable? |
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| [05:59:32] | wagnerrp: | you get those types of errors if your cable provider moves around their lineup |
| [05:59:48] | wagnerrp: | which they enjoy doing with no rhyme, reason, or warning |
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| [06:31:52] | gpd: | I've done a bad thing: dd of 30G image to wrong partition. to recordings partition instead of root. |
| [06:32:17] | gpd: | the recording partition is 700G – any idea if I can rescue the data beyond the first 30G? |
| [06:32:40] | wagnerrp: | ouch |
| [06:32:56] | wagnerrp: | the problem is that youve wiped out your partition table |
| [06:33:41] | wagnerrp: | now file systems have distributed tables scattered around the hard drive for quick access |
| [06:33:52] | wagnerrp: | but usually the start of the disk defines the locations of thos |
| [06:33:53] | wagnerrp: | e |
| [06:35:06] | wagnerrp: | if you can create a fake partition of exactly the same size as your existing disk, format it in exactly the same manner, and then dd a couple megs of that back to the real disk |
| [06:35:14] | wagnerrp: | you may be able to recover whatever wasnt overwritten |
| [06:35:43] | wagnerrp: | i recovered most of a 250GB disk formatted with UFS2 that way several years back |
| [06:36:09] | wagnerrp: | of course then i had only managed to destroy the first few dozen MB, instead of several dozen GB |
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| [06:51:02] | gpd: | sorry – was on another channel – they suggested testdisk – which is now running – fingers crossed |
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| [07:55:11] | gpd: | no joy. :( |
| [07:57:03] | wagnerrp: | data recovery without some specialized (and usually expensive) software is usually a crapshoot |
| [07:58:31] | gpd: | ok – screw it – it was only recorded TV. |
| [07:58:39] | gpd: | now back to rebuilding the mythtv box. |
| [07:59:14] | gpd: | upgrading to lucid: nightmare. |
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| [08:44:29] | clever: | wagnerrp: know of anything for ext3? |
| [08:44:59] | clever: | ive got a 20gig ext3 thats fried a tad (lvm/xfs screwup) and ive tried reading it manualy (by hand) and it looks nothing like the other ext3 fs's |
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| [09:17:20] | ciphergoth: | mythtfilldatabase appears to succeed, but I don't see any program data in mythweb |
| [09:17:47] | ciphergoth: | I'm using tv_grab_uk_rt and I've configured it in /home/mythtv/.mythtv/TV.xmltv to try to grab only one channel |
| [09:18:10] | ciphergoth: | it says "Updated programs: 0 Unchanged programs: 405" but I can't see any programs |
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| [09:20:00] | ciphergoth: | This is under Ubuntu Karmic. I'm running mythfilldatabase as the mythtv user. |
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| [09:28:07] | oobe: | have you setup your channel sources correctly in mythtv-setup |
| [09:29:17] | gbee: | ciphergoth: did you enter associate the xmltvid with that channel in mythtv-setup? |
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| [09:45:21] | ciphergoth: | gbee: I think so – in the channel editor in mythweb I see dave.uktv.co.uk which is what's in TV.xmltv |
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| [09:45:59] | ciphergoth: | oobe: I think so, but of course hard to be sure. Is there a way of running mythtv-setup without being on the console of the TV machine? |
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| [09:53:43] | ciphergoth: | OK, I have mythtv-setup running now after some ssh and xauth trickery |
| [09:53:50] | ciphergoth: | what do I need to check |
| [09:54:43] | ciphergoth: | oobe: have you setup your channel sources correctly in mythtv-setup |
| [09:54:45] | ciphergoth: | gbee: ciphergoth: did you enter associate the xmltvid with that channel in mythtv-setup? |
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| [09:57:15] | ciphergoth: | huh, in the channel editor in mythtv-setup I see many channels twice |
| [09:57:33] | ciphergoth: | sometimes with slightly different names eg BBC FOUR/BBC Four |
| [09:59:16] | ciphergoth: | this seems to be the problem! One has a channel number the other an xmltv id |
| [10:00:05] | ciphergoth: | should I just delete all channels and restart? How would I go about that? |
| [10:00:07] | stuartm: | ciphergoth: yeah, you need to associate the xmltvid with the channels added by the scan, otherwise xmltv/mythfilldatabase insert channels instead |
| [10:00:16] | ciphergoth: | oh God |
| [10:00:21] | stuartm: | 'Delete All Channels' |
| [10:00:24] | ciphergoth: | OK |
| [10:00:28] | ciphergoth: | grief! |
| [10:00:51] | ciphergoth: | ok DONE, what next? |
| [10:01:00] | stuartm: | think I'll disable that behaviour, analogue is rare enough these days that we don't really want xmltv inserting channels |
| [10:01:30] | stuartm: | ciphergoth: scan, then go through the channels editing each one and adding the xmltvid |
| [10:01:32] | ciphergoth: | have started scan |
| [10:01:36] | ciphergoth: | owwwwwww! |
| [10:01:37] | stuartm: | or you could just use EIT |
| [10:01:47] | ciphergoth: | is there a plan to avoid this pain in future? |
| [10:01:49] | stuartm: | although xmltv (radiotimes) data is better |
| [10:01:55] | stuartm: | ciphergoth: yes |
| [10:02:18] | ciphergoth: | I used to just use EIT |
| [10:02:42] | stuartm: | but it tends to take a backseat as most devs haven't set up a new system in years |
| [10:02:53] | stuartm: | so the pain is a distant memory# |
| [10:03:24] | ciphergoth: | heh |
| [10:03:31] | ciphergoth: | my old system died, so starting from scratch |
| [10:03:49] | ciphergoth: | thought it would be easier after all these years1 |
| [10:05:46] | ciphergoth: | hmm, mythtv-setup is unhappy because it can't write to the mythvideo directory. |
| [10:05:51] | ciphergoth: | Should it be able to? |
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| [11:45:51] | waxhead: | hi everyone... |
| [11:46:49] | waxhead: | what's the advantage with vdpau? |
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| [11:47:52] | waxhead: | I've enabled it and just wondering what you might expect to "see"... or is it more about making the hardware work better? |
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| [12:02:54] | dan4dm: | waxhead: you should see lower cpu usage |
| [12:03:16] | waxhead: | cool.. I suspected as much.. |
| [12:03:44] | waxhead: | of course I'd have to go back and reset it and see what it looks like before/after... |
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| [12:06:36] | waxhead: | hmm... do I have to restart the frontend if I change the playback profile? |
| [12:10:13] | waxhead: | cool... yes.. there's a big difference |
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| [12:18:26] | ciphergoth: | stuartm: It worked – thanks! Goodness me, what extraordinary pain for such an ordinary task |
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| [12:20:21] | stuartm: | the solution unfortunately requires cooperation and work from both sides, xmltv and mythtv, it's been slow to make progress |
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| [12:31:52] | waxhead: | doesn't make bad movies any better though.. :) |
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| [12:54:03] | Azelphur: | So, my backend is off to the morgue, and I need to build something new to replace it. I want something that'll handle say 5 hd video streams to be future proof. Any suggestions on parts I should be buying? |
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| [13:18:53] | stuartm: | backend only? |
| [13:19:42] | stuartm: | in that case all I'd suggest is two large HDDs + whatever junk you might have lying around |
| [13:20:50] | stuartm: | although if you want to do commercial flagging and possibly transcode HD in future, then a minimum of 2–3Ghz dual-core would be a wise investment |
| [13:22:12] | stuartm: | recording digital requires no CPU, or much RAM, you don't even need fast drives, but two would help with load balancing |
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| [13:27:46] | stuartm: | in fact I'd have no problem recommending 5400rpm drives for power/noise reasons |
| [13:29:02] | Dibblah: | 100w costs more than £100 / year at the moment to run. So low power parts ROI appears quite quickly. |
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| [14:44:31] | gpd: | any idea why my OSX frontend might be hit and miss with finding recordings? shows nothing then stops responding. intermittant though. |
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| [16:05:07] | Mandingo-Builder: | can some one point me to a working debian directory for build debs |
| [16:05:14] | Mandingo-Builder: | for .23 |
| [16:20:29] | stuartm: | show me a working debian package ... |
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| [16:56:06] | gpd: | Error preparing query: SELECT MIN(id),dirname FROM storagegroup WHERE hostname = :HOSTNAME AND groupname NOT IN ( 'DB Backups', 'Videos', 'Trailers', 'Coverart', 'Fanart', 'Screenshots', 'Banners' ) GROUP BY dirname; |
| [16:56:26] | gpd: | No error type from QSqlError? Strange... |
| [16:56:57] | gpd: | Those are the errors when the OSX frontend is trying to access the recorded programs page. everywhere else it seems to be ok. odd. |
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| [17:00:13] | gpd: | If I remove the HOSTNAME statement then the query runs ok |
| [17:06:23] | bjd: | :HOSTNAME? |
| [17:06:50] | stuartm: | it's a placeholder in a prepared statement |
| [17:06:59] | bjd: | ah k |
| [17:07:33] | stuartm: | gpd: which version of QT or mysql? |
| [17:07:45] | stuartm: | and ! or |
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| [17:14:25] | gpd: | stuartm: not sure on the QT as that must be embedded in the binary OSX – which i got from a weekly build site |
| [17:14:43] | gpd: | mysql is 5.1.41–3ubuntu12 (Ubuntu) |
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| [17:16:24] | stuartm: | gpd: should be shown in mythfrontend --version output |
| [17:19:40] | gpd: | QT Version : 4.6.2 |
| [17:20:07] | gpd: | MythTV Version : 24258M |
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| [17:37:19] | ciphergoth: | Anyone got any useful tips for making XBMC for Xbox talk to MythTV? |
| [17:37:30] | wagnerrp: | no, no... and NO |
| [17:37:34] | ciphergoth: | I'm watching the converstation with Wireshark, but all I can see is some UPnP chatter |
| [17:37:48] | ciphergoth: | wagnerrp: is there a better solution for Xbox + MythTV? |
| [17:38:01] | wagnerrp: | drop the xbox, get something from this decade? |
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| [17:38:58] | wagnerrp: | the xbox doesnt have enough power for anything but standard def mpeg2 |
| [17:38:58] | ciphergoth: | you send me the money, I will :-) |
| [17:39:09] | wagnerrp: | it doesnt have the memory to do any sort of fancy guy |
| [17:39:11] | ciphergoth: | that's OK, it's driving a standard def tele |
| [17:39:11] | wagnerrp: | gui |
| [17:39:18] | ciphergoth: | don't care about fancy gui |
| [17:39:21] | wagnerrp: | its not the output, its the video source |
| [17:39:26] | ciphergoth: | just want to watch live TV at standard def |
| [17:39:39] | ciphergoth: | I'm in the UK, we have plenty of standard def channels |
| [17:39:45] | wagnerrp: | im actually surprised xbmc even supports that platform still |
| [17:40:06] | wagnerrp: | i figured they dropped it once they switched to opengl only |
| [17:40:40] | ciphergoth: | see this from January this year : http://hackaday.com/2010/01/18/xbmc-on-xbox-k . . . g-and-going/ |
| [17:43:03] | wagnerrp: | jeesh... you would think those guys could spend those hours backporting doing something more worthwhile |
| [17:43:11] | wagnerrp: | and earn the $150 or so needed for a nice new frontend |
| [17:44:11] | wagnerrp: | anyway, you dont want to try to interface mythtv with xbmc either |
| [17:44:40] | wagnerrp: | use mythlink or mythfs to make human-readable names available to xbmc |
| [17:44:51] | wagnerrp: | the 'mythbox' plugin that interfaces directly does very bad things |
| [17:45:05] | wagnerrp: | they spoof their supported protocol and schema to force a connection |
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| [17:45:22] | wagnerrp: | and risk serious corruption of mythbackend and the database |
| [17:48:09] | gpd: | looks like it was a password issue – now working |
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| [18:02:43] | ciphergoth: | wagnerrp: hmm, OK. Shame about the live TV. |
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| [18:03:28] | wagnerrp: | shame about the mythbox authors having no sense |
| [18:03:51] | wagnerrp: | of course its probably not their fault, they just use the cmyth library, which is actually doing the bad stuff for them |
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| [18:07:22] | ciphergoth: | what's the cheapest way of getting something that is actually up to the job? |
| [18:08:15] | wagnerrp: | for running mythfrontend? the xbox would actually be fine for standard definition video, IF it had more memory |
| [18:08:40] | wagnerrp: | you could probably dumpster dive or pick up halfway decent machines from a thrift store for cheap |
| [18:08:59] | ciphergoth: | You mean a PC |
| [18:09:08] | ciphergoth: | that's got a lot of downsides compared to an XBOX |
| [18:09:21] | ciphergoth: | larger, louder, setting up the remote control is more work |
| [18:09:22] | wagnerrp: | an xbox IS a PC |
| [18:09:30] | wagnerrp: | and its a loud, power hungry one at that |
| [18:09:52] | ciphergoth: | It's quieter than the PC I'm typing at! |
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| [18:10:06] | wagnerrp: | its a 733MHz P3, a Geforce 3 video card, and a woefully inadequate 64MB of memory |
| [18:10:24] | wagnerrp: | and if its quieter than your current PC, you cheaped out on the CPU heatsink |
| [18:11:26] | wagnerrp: | the recommendation for purchasing NEW hardware is going to be something that can handle at least ATSC |
| [18:11:49] | wagnerrp: | which means either an ION with hardware decoding |
| [18:11:59] | wagnerrp: | or just about any Athlon64 or Core2 grade chip |
| [18:12:10] | wagnerrp: | higher end P4s and Athlons should work too |
| [18:12:17] | wagnerrp: | but you cant purchase them anymore |
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| [18:12:41] | wagnerrp: | that puts entry level at maybe $150, for board, processor and memory |
| [18:12:56] | wagnerrp: | or maybe $200 if you need to purchase case and IR receiver |
| [18:14:20] | ciphergoth: | I'd need the lot |
| [18:14:30] | ciphergoth: | where are you buying whole computers for $200? |
| [18:14:36] | ciphergoth: | I'm in UK, but still |
| [18:14:38] | wagnerrp: | newegg |
| [18:14:42] | wagnerrp: | oh, UK |
| [18:14:49] | wagnerrp: | in that case, limits are going to be a bit higher |
| [18:14:57] | wagnerrp: | youve got DVB-T, which supports h264 |
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| [18:15:43] | wagnerrp: | assuming they support slices in their encodes, the new hardware recommendations are going to be about the same |
| [18:15:50] | wagnerrp: | but older hardware wont work so well |
| [18:16:08] | ciphergoth: | not seeing anything on newegg for quite that little! |
| [18:16:10] | wagnerrp: | youll want something dual core |
| [18:16:48] | ciphergoth: | But I could do without an HDD altogether |
| [18:17:02] | wagnerrp: | that was the assumption |
| [18:17:20] | ciphergoth: | well I've set up DHCP booting before, should be no trouble |
| [18:17:28] | wagnerrp: | PXE |
| [18:17:50] | wagnerrp: | or if nothing else you can just install to and boot from a $10 USB stick |
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| [18:18:05] | ciphergoth: | PXE works well for me |
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| [18:18:49] | ciphergoth: | still, you're talking about motherboard, processor, memory, case and fans, a graphics card that can drive a tele |
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| [18:19:17] | wagnerrp: | a low end athlon X2 is $60 |
| [18:19:27] | wagnerrp: | a matching motherboard with onboard video and svideo output is $45 |
| [18:19:30] | ciphergoth: | isn't there consumer electronics that just does this without me having to do any work yet? |
| [18:19:46] | ciphergoth: | motherboard with onboard svideo? Didn't know you coudl get that, cool |
| [18:20:04] | wagnerrp: | 2GB of memory for another $45, but you could get by with 1GB on a frontend |
| [18:20:12] | ciphergoth: | I assume modern motherboards won't be compatible with a 5 yo case |
| [18:20:20] | wagnerrp: | ciphergoth: you have to go way back for that, geforce 6100 |
| [18:20:27] | wagnerrp: | anything newer doesnt support svideo onboard |
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| [18:20:53] | wagnerrp: | modern motherboards come in microatx form just like they used to |
| [18:21:04] | ciphergoth: | oh OK |
| [18:21:21] | wagnerrp: | you could even hack up that old xbox and install in there if you really wanted to |
| [18:21:33] | ciphergoth: | that seems excessive |
| [18:21:47] | ciphergoth: | more tempted to try and make x-dsl do this job |
| [18:21:53] | ciphergoth: | ie xbox linux |
| [18:22:04] | wagnerrp: | well, so does trying to use mythtv/xbmc on hardware that was new 12 years ago |
| [18:22:14] | ciphergoth: | not quite that old |
| [18:22:40] | ciphergoth: | the XBOX is just over eight years old |
| [18:23:00] | wagnerrp: | yeah, but it used several year old PC parts with a new video card when it was released |
| [18:23:33] | wagnerrp: | looks like the pentium 733 was released in october of 99 |
| [18:24:00] | ciphergoth: | the thing is |
| [18:24:03] | ciphergoth: | it was £25 |
| [18:24:07] | ciphergoth: | with a pile of games |
| [18:24:20] | wagnerrp: | sure, you get what you pay for |
| [18:24:31] | ciphergoth: | I've got a lot more than what I pay for |
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| [18:24:35] | ciphergoth: | watched lots of videos on it |
| [18:24:40] | ciphergoth: | but never got MythTV integration going |
| [18:26:43] | wagnerrp: | Cap_J_L_Picard: you can mark a channel as 'commercial free', so the commflagger will never run on it |
| [18:27:04] | wagnerrp: | you can also mark on your recording rules that you dont want the commflagger to automatically run |
| [18:27:56] | ciphergoth: | great, I can search for motherboards with onboard HDMI but not onboard s-video... |
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| [18:28:31] | wagnerrp: | ciphergoth: if you need svideo, youre either going to have to go with an old 6100 board, or get a discrete video card |
| [18:28:40] | wagnerrp: | a discrete card will be ~$25 |
| [18:28:52] | highzeth: | or get a vga adapter |
| [18:29:10] | wagnerrp: | far more than $25, and it will look like crap |
| [18:29:43] | highzeth: | crap, yes |
| [18:32:52] | ciphergoth: | oh, I'd need a PSU too |
| [18:33:02] | ciphergoth: | had to raid the one that was in the case |
| [18:34:01] | Cap_J_L_Picard: | wagnerrp: thanky... |
| [18:34:14] | Cap_J_L_Picard: | wagnerrp: I'll go and look... |
| [18:34:58] | Cap_J_L_Picard: | hmm, changing SQL database with a substring match for "BBC" should do it... |
| [18:35:19] | wagnerrp: | eh? |
| [18:35:54] | Cap_J_L_Picard: | wagnerrp: That way I can do all the channels in a single query... |
| [18:36:14] | wagnerrp: | youre on your own once you go tinkering in the database |
| [18:36:43] | Cap_J_L_Picard: | wagnerrp: it's just the commethod field in each record. |
| [18:36:55] | Cap_J_L_Picard: | that's commmethod field. |
| [18:37:20] | Cap_J_L_Picard: | I'll use the setup to see what it changes it to do for one channel. |
| [18:37:49] | Cap_J_L_Picard: | then I'll construct a query for all channels with "BBC" in the name. |
| [18:37:52] | Cap_J_L_Picard: | easy.. |
| [18:39:10] | ciphergoth: | wagnerrp: forgive the monster URL, but what about http://www1.conrad-uk.com/scripts/wgate/zcop_ . . . crwidth=1600 |
| [18:39:12] | highzeth: | would have been done allready if you ticked the check boxes via webui |
| [18:39:48] | wagnerrp: | error, unable to create shopping basket |
| [18:39:51] | Cap_J_L_Picard: | highzeth: if you have mythweb installed, and still lots of channels to do that for all BBC channels. |
| [18:40:09] | wagnerrp: | mythweb == webui |
| [18:41:19] | ciphergoth: | wagnerrp: gaaaaah, should have known |
| [18:41:53] | highzeth: | I cant imagine using myth without its webui, sorry for taking that for granted |
| [18:42:17] | ciphergoth: | try http://www.ciao.co.uk/click.php?oid=89629126& . . . %3D466799750 |
| [18:43:10] | wagnerrp: | should work fine, if a bit large |
| [18:44:56] | ciphergoth: | that is really very cheap for a computer |
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| [18:50:00] | Cap_J_L_Picard: | highzeth: well, I happen to have mythweb, but "UPDATE `channel` SET `commmethod`=-2 WHERE `name` REGEXP '.*BBC.*'" is just as easy |
| [18:50:15] | Cap_J_L_Picard: | and does all BBC channels in one shot |
| [18:50:37] | Cap_J_L_Picard: | all 20 records |
| [18:50:57] | highzeth: | sure, my only point was that you would have been done 8min ago |
| [18:51:17] | Cap_J_L_Picard: | I was done 8 minutes ago... |
| [18:51:42] | klk: | it looks to me like atrpms updates their myth packages more frequently than rpmfusion. is that the case? |
| [18:51:49] | Cap_J_L_Picard: | and possibly not, a lot of records to go through one by one for the BBC ones. |
| [18:53:32] | highzeth: | eh? lotsa records? Are we talking about the same channel editor in the webui? |
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| [18:55:43] | Cap_J_L_Picard: | highzeth: yes, and it has 98 rows, I need to manually go through them and tick the box for 20 of them. Checking to see if it is BBC. |
| [18:56:03] | Cap_J_L_Picard: | the computer does the same in 0.0008 seconds. |
| [18:56:36] | Cap_J_L_Picard: | It takes a couple of minutes to write that very simple query. |
| [18:57:19] | Cap_J_L_Picard: | and I can't tick the wrong channel by accident either. |
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| [18:57:47] | stuartm: | highzeth: you can't edit channels in mythweb in the UK, too many, causes the form submission to fail quietly |
| [18:58:03] | dfletcher: | heh I wish I had known that would work yesterday when I uncheked about 500 HD channels ;) |
| [18:58:30] | highzeth: | stuartm: I have yet to have any such issues, I too have UK channels in addition to a few hundred more on other sats |
| [18:58:47] | ** dfletcher sat here with the dumb card that DirecTV gave him and compared the mythweb list to the card :/ ** | |
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| [18:59:21] | Cap_J_L_Picard: | stuartm: urm, then there is a mistake in the PHP... |
| [19:00:25] | stuartm: | Cap_J_L_Picard: or the default apache config, honestly I don't really care where the problem is, I just don't edit channels in mythweb |
| [19:01:05] | Cap_J_L_Picard: | but for someone who knows SQL, it makes it easy to write a query to do such a simple task... |
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| [19:14:06] | dfletcher: | man I'm such a dork. I just made a spreadsheet of TV/movies/series/music against disk space to figure out the optimum storage solution :) |
| [19:15:07] | dfletcher: | I now have at least 250GB room for growth in all categories. not bad :) |
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| [19:23:24] | dfletcher: | hmm anyone seen an external USB DVD drive cause interference with NTSC TV before? (and vice-versa – many DVDs seem to lock up/look corrupt) |
| [19:23:48] | dfletcher: | while this thing is on there's a steady stream of rolling interference on the TV. it's so odd |
| [19:23:50] | wagnerrp: | sure, if the drive is next to the cable, and the cable is unshielded |
| [19:24:11] | dfletcher: | well it's a normal USB cable with a big ferrite bead on the end |
| [19:24:23] | wagnerrp: | ntsc |
| [19:24:27] | dfletcher: | ah |
| [19:24:30] | wagnerrp: | i assume svideo or composite? |
| [19:24:31] | dfletcher: | well that's really svideo |
| [19:24:40] | dfletcher: | ok I'll try another svideo cable |
| [19:24:57] | wagnerrp: | if it is poorly shielded, or nor properly grounded, you can get that sort of interference |
| [19:25:44] | dfletcher: | hmm I think that might have been the nicest one I had laying around. might have to go run to the rat shack or staples |
| [19:25:57] | wagnerrp: | how long is it? |
| [19:26:05] | wagnerrp: | is it running along side any other cables? |
| [19:26:12] | wagnerrp: | or near florescent lights? |
| [19:26:43] | wagnerrp: | if none of the above, you may be experiencing a ground loop |
| [19:27:01] | dfletcher: | heh yeah it's near one of those new fangled florescent light bulbs *and* it's in a group of cables sticking out the back of the cabinet |
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| [19:27:19] | dfletcher: | the USB cable isn't one of those though |
| [19:27:32] | wagnerrp: | any particularly high power AC lines that would induce signal into the svideo cable? |
| [19:27:54] | dfletcher: | ah perhaps the power for this external USB DVD |
| [19:28:06] | dfletcher: | hmm no that's DC |
| [19:28:20] | wagnerrp: | you have a wall-wart? or an in-line supply? |
| [19:28:24] | dfletcher: | there is 1 AC source, the media center |
| [19:28:37] | dfletcher: | in-line brick |
| [19:28:40] | dfletcher: | on the DVD thing |
| [19:31:57] | dfletcher: | hmm I'll try separating the svideo cable from the rest of the rats nest. I think there's another unused hole in this cabinet I can use |
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| [19:33:31] | ver: | well there's your problem, you got rats nesting in it. |
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| [19:35:15] | dfletcher: | wagnerrp++ |
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| [19:35:20] | dfletcher: | worked great, thank you! |
| [19:35:27] | dustybin: | im drunk so i shouldnt post, but one thing |
| [19:35:31] | dustybin: | god |
| [19:35:32] | dustybin: | http://www.straferight.com/photopost/data/500 . . . stallman.jpg |
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| [19:37:22] | wagnerrp: | dfletcher: thats the problem with unbalanced signals |
| [19:37:53] | wagnerrp: | and why nearly all (inexpensive) signalling formats have moved away from it |
| [19:40:09] | dustybin: | mythtv controls my tv, my videos, my music, my lights for the last few years. thank you to everyone who made this happen :D |
| [19:40:18] | dfletcher: | ver, heh if there is a better name for the power/ethernet/svideo/audio cable mess sticking out the back of my cabinet then I have yet to hear it :P |
| [19:41:44] | wagnerrp: | dfletcher: use cable ties? wirelooms? wraps? |
| [19:42:21] | dustybin: | i think you can take things for granted very easily. think how amazing this stuff is. even the internet. think about it |
| [19:42:46] | wagnerrp: | sure you didnt toke up instead? |
| [19:42:56] | dustybin: | jack daniels :D |
| [19:43:00] | wagnerrp: | that doesnt sound like the booze talking |
| [19:44:00] | AndyCap: | meth? |
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| [19:44:06] | dustybin: | haha no drugs |
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| [19:44:49] | wagnerrp: | dfletcher: i do this for any permanent installations... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cable_lacing |
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| [19:47:33] | dustybin: | would be nice to go to a party like this and mix with people like you guys :D |
| [19:47:36] | dustybin: | http://breakpoint.untergrund.net/reports.php |
| [19:48:13] | ** wagnerrp prefers to go to parties for reasons other than talking geek talk ** | |
| [19:49:24] | dfletcher: | wagnerrp, sure but I still have a teeny bit experimental setup here. seeing what will work before I nail it down. measure twice, cut once etc. |
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| [19:49:53] | dfletcher: | eventually I hope to get rid of this keyboard and mouse, I'm using it less and less |
| [19:50:05] | dfletcher: | but currently still dropping to terminal once in a while |
| [19:51:57] | dfletcher: | actually I'd love to get rid of this external DVD too, just didn't quite have the extra budget for it. so that's another thing that'll go away in a month or 2 |
| [19:52:11] | wagnerrp: | why do you need dvd? |
| [19:52:22] | dfletcher: | I have a big collection that's not ripped yet |
| [19:52:45] | wagnerrp: | use a dvd player? |
| [19:52:53] | ** wagnerrp has never been partial to dvd playback in mythtv ** | |
| [19:52:58] | dfletcher: | heh I'd rather have isos |
| [19:53:04] | dfletcher: | the iso playback is sweet |
| [19:53:22] | wagnerrp: | so then you wouldnt need a dvd drive |
| [19:53:34] | dfletcher: | well just to do the initial ripping |
| [19:53:45] | dfletcher: | heh yeah though I could probably do that in the closet |
| [19:54:13] | dfletcher: | oh and wifey likes netflix. another reason to have one handy in living rrom |
| [19:54:37] | ** dustybin listens to minimal techno via mythmusic ** | |
| [19:54:51] | wagnerrp: | minimal techno? |
| [19:54:56] | dustybin: | http://s1.radio.lclhst.net:1337/listen.pls |
| [19:54:58] | dustybin: | :D |
| [19:55:15] | dustybin: | i think this is just 'techno; |
| [19:55:45] | dustybin: | good old fashioned techno |
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| [19:56:23] | AndyCap: | as opposed to baroque techno. |
| [19:56:24] | dfletcher: | oh heh also I think it would take about 10+ TB to get isos of this entire collection ;) heh maybe I should transcode some of it. I guess I don't need an .iso of all The Prisoner series :P |
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| [19:57:10] | dfletcher: | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14eUKogPF7s |
| [20:01:37] | ver: | dfletcher, i saw that movie when it came out. |
| [20:01:45] | ver: | no, not really. |
| [20:01:50] | ver: | but i have seen it. |
| [20:02:03] | stuartm: | it was a series, not a movie |
| [20:02:03] | ver: | actually, i only saw the parody of it on the simpsons, but that's close enough. |
| [20:02:10] | ver: | stuartm, shows what i know. |
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| [20:02:26] | wagnerrp: | well youre talking about maybe 6GB/movie on average |
| [20:02:54] | wagnerrp: | and IMHO, tv series shouldnt be kept in ISO format |
| [20:03:10] | wagnerrp: | one video per file |
| [20:03:13] | dfletcher: | heh except for my Doctor Who DVD's I agree |
| [20:03:19] | wagnerrp: | cant work the metadata otherwise |
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| [20:13:30] | dustybin: | i went through the phase of exploring all the different software / projects, and i still am, but im slowly discovering what i like. I will contribute to mythtv at some point, mythtv is one of those projects what is fun and easy to contribute to, i think there comes a time where you need to stop looking around and start focusing |
| [20:14:14] | dustybin: | a lot of people here are dedicated to mythtv, but what about other exciting projects like asterisk and zoneminder etc |
| [20:15:04] | ** bjd raises an eyebrow ** | |
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| [20:16:00] | dustybin: | i dont understand how you could make yourself dedicated to one project when there are lots of projects out there what are equally as exciting |
| [20:16:22] | bjd: | maybe people don't find them equally exciting? |
| [20:16:34] | dustybin: | indeed that might be the case! |
| [20:16:39] | wagnerrp: | maybe people dont have a use for them, or find that they already do everything they need |
| [20:16:57] | wagnerrp: | if something already does everything you need/want, there is not reason to assist development |
| [20:17:13] | bjd: | i can't see many people having much use for znoeminder anyway |
| [20:17:16] | dfletcher: | yeah I was wondering that. like what's the incentive right now to e.g. jump into the Samba team? I can't see any. sucks for them |
| [20:17:49] | dfletcher: | it's too good for their own good ;) |
| [20:17:54] | wagnerrp: | dfletcher: well... maybe you want full AD server support |
| [20:17:58] | AndyCap: | dfletcher: AD server support for instance? encryption? |
| [20:18:04] | wagnerrp: | or you find something a bit slow and you want to optimize things |
| [20:18:11] | dfletcher: | hmm I guess |
| [20:18:12] | AndyCap: | smb2 support. |
| [20:18:24] | ** wagnerrp got there first ** | |
| [20:18:32] | ** wagnerrp jumps up and down ** | |
| [20:18:38] | wagnerrp: | in yo face AndyCap! |
| [20:18:40] | dfletcher: | but it's easy to see that as a snowball that's going to collect these features eventually anyway :P |
| [20:19:08] | wagnerrp: | :P |
| [20:19:46] | AndyCap: | In soviet russia the software finds you |
| [20:21:20] | dustybin: | 1) first check everything out, find out what you like. 2) contribute and dedicate yourself to something you enjoy the most |
| [20:21:42] | dustybin: | 3) dont expect and praise for what you do, do it because you want to. |
| [20:21:51] | AndyCap: | dustybin: and mythzoneminder and mythphone had to come from somewhere. :) |
| [20:22:00] | wagnerrp: | mythphone? |
| [20:22:15] | ** wagnerrp has no idea what that is ** | |
| [20:22:17] | AndyCap: | wagnerrp: and disappear again. :P |
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| [20:25:47] | dustybin: | i hate the attitude 'ohhh so why dont you contribute'. hmmm, if i contributed, it would be because i could and i wanted to, not for any status |
| [20:25:59] | dustybin: | rant over |
| [20:27:33] | ** dfletcher decides to contribute his amazing mythcoffee and mythhomesecurity (when they exist) :P ** | |
| [20:29:53] | wagnerrp: | dustybin: the attitude over 'why dont you contribute' is only for people requesting new features |
| [20:30:11] | wagnerrp: | if you want to use the software, and never contribute anything back to the community, thats fine |
| [20:30:20] | wagnerrp: | its open source to allow people to do that |
| [20:30:35] | dfletcher: | omg there's 4 hours until next recording! ummm I knew there was about 10 things I wanted to do on the backend but now I can't remember any of them! |
| [20:30:48] | wagnerrp: | if you want to start requesting new features, its nice if you show youre willing to put forth some effort to benefit mythtv on your own |
| [20:31:01] | dfletcher: | mmm icons. btw why do I have to shut off the backend just to get channel icons? isn't that a bit.. weak? |
| [20:31:22] | wagnerrp: | dfletcher: i dont think thats actually the case |
| [20:31:37] | dfletcher: | wagnerrp, well the only tool I've found so far is in the backend setup |
| [20:31:41] | wagnerrp: | i think that was just put in the channel editor because thats where it makes sense to |
| [20:31:51] | dustybin: | wagnerrp: aye i see your point |
| [20:32:51] | dustybin: | i remember 'public domain' in the Amiga days |
| [20:32:57] | wagnerrp: | dfletcher: most things in mythtv-setup require a restart of the backend, including adding and deleting channels |
| [20:33:13] | wagnerrp: | but i dont think just adding channel icons makes a difference |
| [20:33:24] | dfletcher: | right but there's like 400 missing icons in my setup. it takes a long time to go through this |
| [20:33:30] | wagnerrp: | if for no other reason than the backend doesnt actually use them for anything |
| [20:33:37] | dfletcher: | so if this is the only tool to do it... my backend is down all that time |
| [20:33:39] | wagnerrp: | the most it does is provide file access to them |
| [20:33:48] | wagnerrp: | so run mythtv-setup without terminating the backend |
| [20:33:54] | dfletcher: | oh I can do that? |
| [20:33:54] | wagnerrp: | you can do that |
| [20:33:57] | dfletcher: | how? |
| [20:33:57] | sid3windr: | does mythfrontend compile on mips? ;) |
| [20:34:12] | wagnerrp: | by running it without terminating the backend? |
| [20:34:19] | wagnerrp: | seems fairly obvious to me |
| [20:34:34] | sid3windr: | wagnerrp: unless running mythbuntu I guess |
| [20:34:36] | dfletcher: | oh heh sorry I'm on ubuntu, the menu items just do it |
| [20:34:38] | dfletcher: | heh sorry |
| [20:34:40] | sid3windr: | :) |
| [20:34:48] | wagnerrp: | right, on mythbuntu, you need to run 'mythtv-setup.real' |
| [20:34:55] | wagnerrp: | they have a wrapper script around the real binary |
| [20:35:05] | wagnerrp: | for the purposes of automatically shutting down the backend when you run it |
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| [20:37:09] | dfletcher: | ahh I see yeah, wrapped by mythbuntu ok cool. easy nuff. |
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| [20:44:38] | pfunk: | wagnerrp: hey sorry I missed you last night |
| [20:45:04] | pfunk: | I'm actually seeing my PMT problem with regular OTA broadcasts |
| [20:45:12] | pfunk: | usually NBC |
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| [20:55:59] | ver: | hrm, not a signal issue? |
| [21:01:11] | pfunk: | I'm doubtful its signal. Many times recorings on the same channnels go off without a hitch |
| [21:01:54] | pfunk: | Just every few days I produce a 0 byte recording and about a million of the same error in the title of the ticket I linked last night. |
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| [21:18:20] | dfletcher: | phew that was painful! heh much more like this and I'll need a chair in my server closet. heh hopefully my choices help some other directv user in bay area :) |
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| [21:52:18] | clever: | wagnerrp: does dual core 3.6ghz sound like enough for some decent HD decoding? |
| [21:52:48] | wagnerrp: | that sounds awful |
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| [21:54:02] | wagnerrp: | the only processor intel ever released faster than 3.33 was a P4 |
| [21:54:13] | clever: | wagnerrp: let me find the cpuinfo file |
| [21:54:34] | clever: | wagnerrp: model name : Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.60GHz |
| [21:54:58] | clever: | flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx lm constant_tsc pebs bts pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl est tm2 cid cx16 xtpr |
| [21:54:59] | wagnerrp: | and it would have been single core with hyperthreading at that |
| [21:55:12] | clever: | there is 2 clearly seperate heatsinks under the fan |
| [21:55:25] | wagnerrp: | so its dual processor? |
| [21:55:25] | clever: | 2 fully seperate cores on there own die's |
| [21:55:31] | wagnerrp: | oh |
| [21:55:45] | clever: | yeah dual processor would be a better term |
| [21:55:46] | wagnerrp: | yeah, the P4s were on separate dies on a single package |
| [21:55:56] | clever: | i think they are fully seperate packages |
| [21:56:14] | wagnerrp: | the package is the card and socket |
| [21:56:22] | clever: | the crazy thing is that the beast has 13 harddrives, and less then 1tb of disk space |
| [21:56:27] | wagnerrp: | one socket, one package |
| [21:57:45] | wagnerrp: | anyway, that 3.6 dual P4 is going to be equivalent in performance to a low end Core2 |
| [21:57:51] | clever: | i think the raid stripping is spreading the load over all 12 drives evenly, 12 stripes |
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| [21:58:16] | clever: | i did a real crude test with aircrack, and it cracks a set of dump files in 1.2 seconds, the core2duo 1.8ghz cracks it in 1.4 |
| [21:58:37] | wagnerrp: | 1.8 is low end |
| [21:58:49] | clever: | but at those speeds, half of it might just be loading of the .cap files alone |
| [21:58:52] | wagnerrp: | i think 1.86 was the lowest speed made for a standard desktop socket |
| [21:58:56] | clever: | model name : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T7100 @ 1.80GHz |
| [21:58:59] | clever: | cpu MHz : 1794.886 |
| [21:59:03] | wagnerrp: | anything lower was mobile, or some special low power socket |
| [21:59:09] | clever: | laptop |
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| [21:59:10] | wagnerrp: | the T series were all for mobile systems |
| [21:59:18] | clever: | ah |
| [22:01:20] | clever: | wagnerrp: is it the same kind of horid P4 as 'Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1500MHz'? |
| [22:01:32] | wagnerrp: | no, its actually worse |
| [22:01:42] | clever: | lol |
| [22:01:49] | dustybin: | nobody makes music like this anymore http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrQuR1LHAVI |
| [22:01:50] | clever: | so they made an even worse 64bit version, lol |
| [22:01:57] | wagnerrp: | the prescotts were actually lower performance per clock than the original P4s |
| [22:02:06] | wagnerrp: | dont ask me how they managed that |
| [22:02:45] | wagnerrp: | in addition to being two completely independent chips that have to communicate with each other through the north bridge |
| [22:03:02] | wagnerrp: | for all intents and purposes, it was a dual processor chip |
| [22:03:41] | clever: | which one was the prescotts? |
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| [22:04:03] | wagnerrp: | the last P4 core before they dropped the whole line |
| [22:04:12] | janneg: | wagnerrp: Core i5–670 has 3.46 GHz not counting turbo boost and -680 with 3.6GHz is announced |
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| [22:04:35] | wagnerrp: | janneg: those are dual core chips? |
| [22:04:42] | janneg: | yes |
| [22:04:45] | wagnerrp: | ah |
| [22:04:46] | janneg: | clarkdale |
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| [22:04:57] | clever: | i'm wondering what to try and do with the 12 harddrive raid array |
| [22:05:15] | wagnerrp: | junk it? |
| [22:05:25] | clever: | we have to return the whole thing intact next week :P |
| [22:05:27] | wagnerrp: | sell them for $25 each on ebay, and buy a 2TB drive? |
| [22:05:36] | clever: | they are scsi drives |
| [22:05:48] | wagnerrp: | $40? |
| [22:05:52] | clever: | rather small ones overall |
| [22:05:56] | clever: | total of just ~800gig |
| [22:07:07] | wagnerrp: | looks like the 680 was actually released two weeks ago |
| [22:07:49] | wagnerrp: | i didnt realize they had bumped them back up that far |
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| [23:02:40] | Azelphur: | why is it that mythtv doesn't pick up the correct channel number assignments from freesat? |
| [23:02:47] | Azelphur: | is it a bug or does freesat not broadcast the numbers? |
| [23:03:13] | wagnerrp: | im guessing the latter |
| [23:03:27] | wagnerrp: | they broadcast their own non-standard virtual assignments |
| [23:03:42] | wagnerrp: | that only their official STBs are programmed to access |
| [23:03:58] | Azelphur: | I see |
| [23:04:09] | wagnerrp: | (just a guess) |
| [23:04:13] | bjd: | wagnerrp: if you don't mind my asking, whats your dayjob? |
| [23:04:26] | wagnerrp: | student |
| [23:04:36] | bjd: | ah |
| [23:04:48] | Azelphur: | would be interesting to find out exactly what's going on there so it could be fixed properly |
| [23:05:12] | Azelphur: | if it's virtual assignments, there must be a list somewhere |
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| [23:27:48] | DQn3tsWRK: | hey i just install 10.04 the other day |
| [23:27:52] | DQn3tsWRK: | and im trying to get mythtv working |
| [23:28:05] | DQn3tsWRK: | i have my db working and everything |
| [23:28:16] | DQn3tsWRK: | but when i click watch tv, it says please wiat, then just goes back to the frontend menu |
| [23:28:18] | DQn3tsWRK: | any ideas? |
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| [23:28:30] | wagnerrp: | check your backend logs for why the recording is failing |
| [23:28:37] | ** DQn3tsWRK googles ** | |
| [23:28:46] | wagnerrp: | not google, backend logs |
| [23:30:09] | DQn3tsWRK: | http://pastebin.com/wQ9VACNe |
| [23:30:14] | DQn3tsWRK: | yea i had to check for the tail command again |
| [23:30:17] | DQn3tsWRK: | i have done it in the past |
| [23:30:18] | DQn3tsWRK: | but forgot |
| [23:30:22] | DQn3tsWRK: | theres the output |
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| [23:31:13] | DQn3tsWRK: | any ideas? |
| [23:34:28] | DQn3tsWRK: | 5$ via paypal if you help me get it working |
| [23:34:30] | DQn3tsWRK: | im paypal verified |
| [23:37:57] | DQn3tsWRK: | *tap tap* is this thing on? |
| [23:38:10] | bjd: | did you check the logs? |
| [23:38:26] | DQn3tsWRK: | bjd i just pasted the output of the logs |
| [23:38:32] | DQn3tsWRK: | http://pastebin.com/wQ9VACNe |
| [23:39:57] | DQn3tsWRK: | im getting errors about irsend |
| [23:41:54] | wagnerrp: | DQn3tsWRK: are you trying to use a external tuner? like a set-top-box? |
| [23:42:02] | DQn3tsWRK: | yea |
| [23:42:09] | DQn3tsWRK: | pvr150 with dtv stb |
| [23:42:16] | wagnerrp: | looks like you have not set up lirc |
| [23:42:23] | wagnerrp: | so your channel changer script is failing |
| [23:42:47] | bjd: | yea |
| [23:43:06] | wagnerrp: | since its failing, and returning an exit code other than zero, mythtv expects the whole tuning process has failed, and refuses to start capture |
| [23:43:55] | DQn3tsWRK: | hrmm |
| [23:43:57] | DQn3tsWRK: | any suggestions? |
| [23:44:15] | wagnerrp: | install and run lirc |
| [23:44:22] | DQn3tsWRK: | i did install it |
| [23:44:30] | DQn3tsWRK: | and i thought i set it up in mythbuntu control centre |
| [23:44:39] | wagnerrp: | is it configured to use your ir blaster, and running? |
| [23:44:39] | DQn3tsWRK: | how do i run lirc |
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| [23:53:27] | dustybin: | DQn3tsWRK: why dont you change your nick to something more normal? |
| [23:53:43] | wagnerrp: | at least its not garbage |
| [23:53:46] | mag0o: | :) |
| [23:53:50] | dustybin: | haha good point |
| [23:54:08] | mag0o: | because, we all have normal nicks around here :) |
| [23:54:51] | dustybin: | ignore me tonight, im drunk |
| [23:55:01] | mag0o: | /ignore dustybin |
| [23:55:03] | mag0o: | :) |
| [23:55:31] | dustybin: | im a mythtv user, have been for about 2/3 years, thats why im in mythtv-users |
| [23:55:53] | mag0o: | 8 months? |
| [23:55:57] | mag0o: | hehe |
| [23:56:08] | wagnerrp: | eh? |
| [23:56:16] | dustybin: | .20 was my first experience, or was it .19 |
| [23:56:19] | mag0o: | 2/3 years :) |
| [23:56:22] | dustybin: | debian sarge |
| [23:56:33] | wagnerrp: | are we spouting off pointless information now? |
| [23:56:37] | ** bjd sends dustybin back under his bridge ** | |
| [23:56:38] | dustybin: | yep! |
| [23:56:40] | dustybin: | :D |
| [23:56:43] | ** mag0o is just messin with dustybin ** | |
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| [23:57:01] | dustybin: | i have to admit, there are a lot of intelligent people in this channel |
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| [23:57:42] | dustybin: | annoying as they can be, but highly intelligent |
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