Beirdobot, irc.freenode.net

Monday, April 26th, 2010, 00:12 UTC

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flindet_:

Hi, I'm wondering if anyone here is using Surewest in Sacramento and, if so, if it's working well with HD. Thanks.

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iamlindoro:

Hahah, in the latest episode of V, they're at a world leadership summit.. and they pan by someone from the "Weyland-Yutani Corporation"

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iamlindoro:

(Which is the megacorp from Alien/Aliens/etc.)

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symptom:

how important is a pci express capture card vs straight PCI?

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wagnerrp:

all depends on what slots your motherboard has

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wagnerrp:

with digital tuners and mpeg encoders, you will never see more than a couple MB/s from a card

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symptom:

will never need more than a couple MB/s for digital tuning?

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symptom:

so for digital PCI would be fine?

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wagnerrp:

an ATSC tuner will only use 19mbps maximum, a QAM tuner is about double that

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Greek-Boy:

is there a way to see the PID of a channel in MythTV?

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symptom:

and since PCI is 133MB/s I should be good?

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Greek-Boy:

nevermind, i'll just do a pid scan with dvbsnoop

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wagnerrp:

symptom: unless you have a PCI video card or gigabit ethernet, you shouldnt be able to push enough traffic through to saturate it

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symptom:

no my vid card is agp

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symptom:

thanks

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PeaceKeeper:

Can MythBrowser us a normal tv remote? I am tring but the arrow does not seem to move.

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wagnerrp:

you should be able to use a 4-way to move between the links

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PeaceKeeper:

I have the Left Right Up Down assigned to the bindings. Is that what you are referring too?

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wagnerrp:

yes

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PeaceKeeper:

Humm let me try again.

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** iamlindoro suggests looking at the browser bindings that start with "MOUSE" **

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PeaceKeeper:

I have :D

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PeaceKeeper:

thx

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PeaceKeeper:

I every read the part about having to restart for the bindings to work. but no luck

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PeaceKeeper:

I am going to try a another site see if it is that

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iamlindoro:

You don't need to restart for the bindings to work

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PeaceKeeper:

BTW: mythbroswer is cool now ;)

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PeaceKeeper:

oh... I thought I read you did

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iamlindoro:

Hopefully you're not trying to use a flash player or something and expecting the mouse bindings to work

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iamlindoro:

flash steals focus

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wagnerrp:

general rule... settings that need a restart are in mythtv-setup, settings that dont are in mythfrontend

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iamlindoro:

meaning you will need a real mouse if you want to manipulate a flash widget

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PeaceKeeper:

Maybe it has flash on it not sure. I will try google to make sure

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iamlindoro:

and hopefully you paid attention to toggleinput binding

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PeaceKeeper:

humm

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** PeaceKeeper is afraid now he missed that **

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iamlindoro:

MOUSE* bindings tested and working fine here

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PeaceKeeper:

Do they work on engadget?

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PeaceKeeper:

I am typing in google now (on remote) hehe

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iamlindoro:

yes, they work on engadget

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PeaceKeeper:

humm ok I have a config issue.

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iamlindoro:

2,4,6,8 (the default values) all working fine

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PeaceKeeper:

Is there somewhere to set the zoom on start up? Still trying to get my bndings working

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PeaceKeeper:

Sweet I got the numbers working. Now I just cannot get enter

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PeaceKeeper:

but I cam getting there

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hipitihop:

I have a pocket pc which I would like to use as a frontend remote using wifi , can anyone recommend an app ?

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PeaceKeeper:

Thank you for your help!

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PeaceKeeper:

Can anyone tell me that the MOUSELEFTBUTTON is on the bindings for MythBrowser?

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iamlindoro:

Should probably re-read that question

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iamlindoro:

because I have no idea what you're asking

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iamlindoro:

"that the" should be "what the," perhaps?

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iamlindoro:

It's a binding which emulates a mouse click. It works fine here.

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PeaceKeeper:

sorru

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PeaceKeeper:

sorry...I got it.

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PeaceKeeper:

Thx again :) So no flash in MythBrowser?

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iamlindoro:

Flash works in mythbrowser

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PeaceKeeper:

Oh I must need to install a package them

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PeaceKeeper:

I must be missing it. Is it just the flash for mozilla? Or is there a link I can read to see how to get it working?

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iamlindoro:

There is no link to read

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iamlindoro:

your myth must be built against Qt 4.5 or later, and you must have the plugin properly installed, that's all

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iamlindoro:

If you are on a distro that only has Qt 4.4, for example, it won't work

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PeaceKeeper:

Plugin = Mythbrowser?

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iamlindoro:

flash

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PeaceKeeper:

Where do I get that?

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iamlindoro:

Where do you get flash?

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iamlindoro:

From Adobe

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iamlindoro:

Are you running Qt 4.5 or later?

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PeaceKeeper:

Not sure. I am getting on box now to see

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PeaceKeeper:

qt-4.6.2–8.fc11.x86_64

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iamlindoro:

then your Qt is fine

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iamlindoro:

so if you're not getting flash, then the flash plugin is improperly installed

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PeaceKeeper:

Ok I will redownload and see what I can do

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PeaceKeeper:

Flash Player 10 for Linux (.rpm) ?

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PeaceKeeper:

or I can compile. Just want to make sure this is right

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iamlindoro:

That's distro specific, you'll need to seek advice from whomever is your distro expert on that

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iamlindoro:

it's outside the scope of myth

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PeaceKeeper:

ok will do. thx for the pointers

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iamlindoro:

Needs to be the proprietary Adobe Flash plugin, not any free alternative (which will not work)

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iamlindoro:

ie, not gnash or whatever it's called

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PeaceKeeper:

Ok

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PeaceKeeper:

Do I have to link libflashplayer.so somewhere for mythbrowser to use it?

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Beirdo:

BEER

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Beirdo:

oops, caps lock

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Beirdo:

watching Balls of Steel

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Beirdo:

what a waste of a movie :)

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wagnerrp:

the ping pong movie?

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Beirdo:

yeah

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Beirdo:

funny, I guess... but heh.. stooopid

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wagnerrp:

better than blades of glory, or whatever the ice skating one was

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Beirdo:

yeah

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PeaceKeeper:

libflashplayer.so -> /usr/lib/flash-plugin/libflashplayer.so does not work in /usr/lib64/mythtv/plugins. Am is going about this the wrong way?

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symptom:

cant buy the HVR-1150 anywhere....

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symptom:

I suppose it is time to just upgrade the computer with a motherboard that has PCIe

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wagnerrp:

is the 1150 even supported? i see no mention of it on the site

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sphery:

Fox (or my local affiliate) is really annoying tonight. They keep flip-flopping between HDTV and SDTV feeds.

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LeonhartBA:

good evening everyone

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LeonhartBA:

anyone willing to help me out with setup of hauppague 1800 card

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LeonhartBA:

I tried everything, I get some video..but no sound

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sphery:

does the 1800 even work with MythTV?

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sphery:

I thought there were driver issues

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LeonhartBA:

I get the video to work

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LeonhartBA:

not amazing quality

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LeonhartBA:

but it works..just no sound

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wagnerrp:

analog has driver issues, digital works fine

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sphery:

ahhh

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LeonhartBA:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6129026&postcount=132

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LeonhartBA:

that does not work either? I figure I ask before I head down the path

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wagnerrp:

that was like a year and a half and three ubuntu revisions ago

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LeonhartBA:

yeh..

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LeonhartBA:

cant find anything for 10.04

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LeonhartBA:

am I better off getting a better card?

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wagnerrp:

thats because theres likely nothing to do with 10.04, it 'just works'

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wagnerrp:

you are trying to use the digital side, correct?

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LeonhartBA:

believe so

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LeonhartBA:

its just a direct cable in from the wall

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LeonhartBA:

its the only thing keeping me from completely switching to linux

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LeonhartBA:

watching tv in the venings before bed

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LeonhartBA:

*evenings

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wagnerrp:

you are trying to use a 'DVB' card?

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wagnerrp:

thats the term used in mythtv-setup

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Beirdo:

digital video beer

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LeonhartBA:

yea, I think so

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wagnerrp:

then youre just pulling a pre-encoded mpeg stream straight from the broadcaster

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wagnerrp:

if youre not getting audio, the problem is in your audio setup, not the card

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Beirdo:

ok wth?

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wagnerrp:

are you trying to do digital passthrough or something?

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Beirdo:

KFC put out a chicken sandwich that is a coronary waiting to happen.

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Beirdo:

instead of bread... two fried chicken pieces?!

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LeonhartBA:

I want to keep it basic

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wagnerrp:

the breading is all thats needed

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LeonhartBA:

plug the cable in, start it up..and watch tv

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wagnerrp:

what more do you want?

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wagnerrp:

geez Beirdo...

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LeonhartBA:

the setup is killing me though

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Beirdo:

wagnerrp: hehe, yeah well. but dang!

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wagnerrp:

LeonhartBA: take one of those recordings, try to run it on a different machine

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wagnerrp:

im going to bet the video (and card) is just fine

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wagnerrp:

and that your problem is during playback

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LeonhartBA:

probably

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LeonhartBA:

few distros ago I tried as well...worked fine through vlc

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LeonhartBA:

and a diff tv program..but no luck with mythtv

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jya:

janneg: changeset 24242/24243 broke mpeg2 playback for me ...

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JohnQ:

Is the blaster that is included with the HDPVR reasonably good, and easy to set up, etc?

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[R]:

it gets no distance

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[R]:

and its a bitch to setup depeneding on your dist

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JohnQ:

Hm

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JohnQ:

Good thing I asked

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[R]:

i use firewire

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[R]:

its quite EXTREME

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JohnQ:

.. A firewire blaster?

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[R]:

no

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[R]:

change channel over firewire

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JohnQ:

Ah

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JohnQ:

I wonder if my box supports that

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[R]:

what do you have

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JohnQ:

Its a motorola something from comcast... not sure

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[R]:

is it hd?

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JohnQ:

Yep

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[R]:

as long as they aren't breaking the law

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[R]:

the firewire should work

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JohnQ:

How hard is that to set up? :-)

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[R]:

if you find the right channel changer for your box

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[R]:

its easy

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wagnerrp:

rather... its required by law to work

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JohnQ:

Kay

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JohnQ:

I should probably go buy a firewire cable :-)

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[R]:

for months i was cursing my cable company cuz i coud't get firewire working

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[R]:

turned out i had a bad cable

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JohnQ:

Frack. I hate apt. Trying to upgrade lirc has torpedoed my machine.

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JohnQ:

apt uninstalled itself, among other things.

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[R]:

lol

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[R]:

thats why it prompts you

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[R]:

before doing stupid things

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JohnQ:

Its not like you have any alternative. In order to install X, you need Y and Z.. if you dont want that.. then too bad. No X for you.

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JohnQ:

Its gonna be a looong night. I hate maintaining this machine.

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wagnerrp:

let it rot?

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JohnQ:

Ya thats what I usually do :-)

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JohnQ:

But then when I wanna install something new, like my new HDPVR .... it all comes crashing down

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JohnQ:

Usually when this happens, it is weeks before the myth starts working nicely again.

[05:26:35]

wagnerrp:

use snapshots

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wagnerrp:

if you bork something, just boot into the old install

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JohnQ:

I'm a bear of very little forethought.

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Beirdo:

bleh

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JohnQ:

Wow.. I've been out of it for a while. 0.23 is "stable" now?

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wagnerrp:

has been for some time

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wagnerrp:

a good month, month and a half

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JohnQ:

The motd seems out of date then

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JohnQ:

err topic

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wagnerrp:

no, its right

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JohnQ:

Then what am I missing

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JohnQ:

How can 23 be stable, and yet the "latest stable" be 22?

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wagnerrp:

0.23 is branched, stable, and ready to use

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JohnQ:

Hm

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wagnerrp:

there has just not been any official tarball and release

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wagnerrp:

so 0.22 is still the latest stable /release/

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JohnQ:

Maybe I should just use 22 then.

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wagnerrp:

0.23 is perfectly fine for use, it has just not been released yet

[06:10:02]

wagnerrp:

logistical reasons, nothing to do with the stability of the code

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JohnQ:

I'm beginning to wonder if it wouldnt be easier to just switch to mythdora or mythbuntu rather than trying to get this dinosaur up to spec.

[06:25:12]

JohnQ:

How easy/hard is it to migrate existing recordings over to a new distro?

[06:27:36]

wagnerrp:

copy your files, backup/import your database, done

[06:28:31]

JohnQ:

The entire DB? or just some of the tables?

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wagnerrp:

all of mythconverg

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JohnQ:

Actually.. looks like mythdora uses 0.21 still.

[06:29:47]

JohnQ:

Since I;m on 0.22 now, I bet that means its a bad idea.

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JohnQ:

Oh wait... I'm on crack. 0.23, yay

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Fudge:

can someone point me to any tutorial on installing mythtv on jaunty

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Beirdo:

why would you need a tutorial?

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Beirdo:

have you read the mythtv docs?

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Fudge:

no installed it and couldnt get it to work, where are docs or wiki?

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wagnerrp:

mythtv.org, mythtv.org/wiki

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Fudge:

great thanx :)

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dfletcher:

success! finally acheived a goal I've had for a long time now. all media (avi, iso dvd, plastic dvd, music, TV) available together in one place and a single remote controls both the TV and myth. ahhhhhh this is so sweet

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dfletcher:

heh now I want to build a fancy remote, this one's just the sony that came with the TV. I'm thinking like LCD screen with previews plus a small keyboard and trackball :)

[08:42:58]

dfletcher:

hmm myth seemed to crash though while scanning my 20GB music collection, it's only partially in there. /me wonders what's up

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dfletcher:

oh and BTW, THANK YOU myth devs for some really cool software

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dfletcher:

:)

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SirColin:

how does one go about upgrading from 0.22 to 0.23?

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justinh:

that would depend very much on which distro you use, and whether or not you use its packages

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SirColin:

well im gonna put in in a vm first it will be a vanilla mythbuntu 9.10

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justinh:

not a very good idea to do anything mythtv related in a virtual machine

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justinh:

1. back up the 0.22 database

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SirColin:

it not gonna be used for anything i just wanna have a play for now see whats what

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justinh:

nothing is what

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justinh:

things haven't changed all that much between versions as far as core functionality is concerned

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justinh:

and fwiw, best of luck getting tuner cards to work in a VM

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SirColin:

i know what your saying but there are people who already have tuner cards working in vm's now with x11 forwarding and sound too !

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justinh:

you're. not your

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SirColin:

not try-ed it myself ! :-)

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justinh:

running myth in a VM isn't something anybody here would encourage

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justinh:

let those 'people' stick to their own ill-advised practises

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SirColin:

me either but it's good to look at these things i think

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justinh:

no it isn't

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justinh:

there are applications VMs are suited to.. and mythtv isn't one I'd put on the list

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SirColin:

funny people once said that about pbx'es too

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justinh:

most people don't need a PBX at home

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justinh:

like most people don't need virtual machines either

[10:31:51]

justinh:

there are any number of analogies you can use to explain why virtual machines – like cloud computing – isn't the great answer to every possible problem

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SirColin:

they make good test platforms which is what i was asking for help on but never mind!

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justinh:

yes – good test platforms for *some* things

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justinh:

not *all* things

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justinh:

certainly not in *all* situations

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justinh:

people go on about VMs like they're the answer to everything. They're not

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justinh:

in the case of a mythtv system they only add complexity & overhead precisely where you don't need it

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JohnQ:

does the ir receiver on the hdpvr work with lirc? Or just the blaster?

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justinh:

IIRC the lirc part of the driver isn't what you'd call reliable yet

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JohnQ:

ah

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justinh:

http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Hauppauge_HD-PVR would be a good place to look for information though

[10:37:01]

JohnQ:

Yeah.. that onl mentions the blaster.

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JohnQ:

Nothing on the reciever

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justinh:

JohnQ: on jarod's site he says the receiver can lock up meaning the whole device has to be reinitialised. he's looking into it, but his to-do list is very long

[10:39:48]

justinh:

http://wilsonet.com/?p=40

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justinh:

on that basis alone it's probably worth not even bothering & just use an external IR transceiver

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JohnQ:

Isn't that several months old? (Dated Jan)

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justinh:

old doesn't necessarily mean out of date

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JohnQ:

Well.. it predates my distro.

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justinh:

last I remember hearing was that the story hasn't changed

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justinh:

fwiw, spending $20 on a new remote/receiver/blaster isn't that big a deal anyway

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JohnQ:

Ya, its on my to-do list, once command ir has some in stock again.

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justinh:

about time STBs all had direct IR ports anyway

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justinh:

our last STB did, but it was disabled. wth point is that?

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JohnQ:

is there a gui-way to change the values in mythdora.conf?

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justinh:

wouldn't bank on there being one built into mythfrontend. heh

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JohnQ:

No, I wouldn't expect so.

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justinh:

doubt it's something you'd want to change often anyway

[11:19:07]

JohnQ:

Probably not. But I do need to change it now..

[11:19:28]

JohnQ:

sysinfo.cgi

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JohnQ:

If theyre going to bother to make a gui to set it the first time... seems like it would be a simple thing to allow you to get back to change the settings later.

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justinh:

heh. people on radio4 complaining about adverts in the EPG of their panasonic DVD recorders

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Abo:

Hi All, I need help with a "No UPnP backend" error, followed by a can't login error. I've check mysql.txt and my.cnf. I have checked the logs: Mysql error log I don't understand (http://pastebin.com/vGFvCwTq), mythbackend.log "can't read mysql.txt" mysql is fine IP the same as on mythtv-setup, same as ifconfig ouput (trying to post my backend log on paste bin.

[12:23:52]

Abo:

I found this post among many (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=726680) deleted some logs and still no joy.

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justinh:

I'm not sure deleting logs would ever solve a problem

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Abo:

Something was said about "device out of space", I also deleted some videos to release about 10Gb from the drive.

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justinh:

deleting files yourself isn't advisable

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justinh:

*especially* if they're recordings

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Abo:

How should I go about it? Will it solve the problem.

[12:28:53]

Abo:

I can't seem to paste my backend log on pastebin, it times out or something.

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justinh:

the 'no upnp backend' message isn't specifically an error

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Abo:

Mythtv does not startup. At first the complaint is No UPnP backend found and give the language selection, I select my language and check that IP address is correct on exiting it says "can't login".

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justinh:

you've got some bad mysql problems there Abo

[12:35:41]

Abo:

And I am still new to all this, so I guess I can say "tell me about it". How do I solve it?

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justinh:

if I were you I'd flatten the OS & just reinstall

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Abo:

justinh: flatten?

[12:36:45]

justinh:

just reinstall the OS

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Abo:

justinh: if the problem is mysql why "flatten" and reinstall OS?

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justinh:

from that mess of a mysql log it looks like trying to repair it would be a waste of time

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justinh:

looks to me like a user has messed around with a lot of stuff.. and who knows what else they broke too ;)

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Abo:

I did a dist upgrade to 10.04RC, so I don't have the disk to reinstall. 9.10 just didn't do UPnP for me at all.

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justinh:

so download a new ISO :)

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JohnQ:

My lirc seems to be working up to and including irw and ircat... but the frontend is still ignoring it. What is left that it could be?

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Abo:

justinh: I really don't want to reinstall. besides I am also trying to learn so maybe it ime to learn mysql. What's so fowl about mysql logs?

[12:40:35]

justinh:

mysql complaining it doesn't have write access

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justinh:

is the root partition full or something crazy?

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justinh:

mysql *really* does *not* like it when the partition the database is stored on gets full

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justinh:

you're lucky if there's anything of the database left when that happens

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Abo:

justinh: yeah I saw that in that backend logs that I can't seem to paste in paste said "can't read mysql.txt" so can't I just go change permissions of the file?

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justinh:

this a standard ubuntu install?

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Abo:

Justinh: how do I know if the partition is full? Can't freeing up some space on that particion help?

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justinh:

Abo: depends. if your mysql setup is already screwed it might be too late

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justinh:

df tells you how much free space you have

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Abo:

justinh: but how do I find out, what am I supposed to learn from this so I don't run into it again?

[12:45:13]

justinh:

I already said

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justinh:

df

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Abo:

justinh: can I paste the results here or pastebin? or is the a dir or location I should be looking at?

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justinh:

the mysql store is generally /var/mysql/ which would be on the root partition of a default ubuntu install

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Abo:

justinh: /dev/sda1 is 99% full but that's a mount a drive with content no system files, I think?

[12:47:04]

justinh:

wrong

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justinh:

unless you partitioned your system differently, that is

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justinh:

but if /dev/sda1 is mounted to / and it's 99% full...OOPS

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Abo:

justinh: there are system files? What do I do delete some files from it. Which is what I think the post I cited earlier was suggessting

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Abo:

justinh: oops?

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justinh:

it happened to me once.. I'd downloaded a lot of stuff to the wrong place by mistake. I lost my database

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justinh:

you should always be careful not to run out of space on the partition mysql stores its data on.. or BAD THINGS can happen

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justinh:

at best it'll stop working. at worst it will trash the whole database

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Abo:

justinh: how do I check if that's what I have done? And perhaps see if my database is as stuffed as yours was.

[12:50:00]

justinh:

ubuntu has a DISK USAGE ANALYZER

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justinh:

not that you'll be able to install it, mind

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justinh:

so it's probably time to learn to use the du command

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Abo:

justinh: well all is said and done isn't the power behind Open Source, Linux specifically that it is modular (a grouping of seprate files). If that true can't I just get rid of the sick part and reinstall only that?

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justinh:

what you have to do now is find out why your root partition is full

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Abo:

justinh: du command I am still new and there's seem to be mountains to learn, so du command?

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Abo:

justinh: right so how do I go about doing that? Step by step would be great, will paste advice in my own personal help file.

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justinh:

Abo: the 'man' command is very handy to know

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justinh:

and google is often a great way to find examples of commands you need

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justinh:

we're all about teaching people to fish here

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jduggan:

why fish when you can walk into a supermarket and pay

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jduggan:

:D

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jduggan:

oh,wait...

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Abo:

justinh: yeah, I had to google du (disk usage) was just reading about it, I don't know how to use the man command either. And still trying to understand what help gives me re: man pages.

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Abo:

justinh: still reading about du. So does it have flags that allow me to look at the space hogs and remove them?

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justinh:

well, start looking in your home directory

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Abo:

justinh: so it is "du /"?

[13:02:19]

justinh:

is not your home directory

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justinh:

question – do you download stuff?

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Abo:

justinh: are the numbers on the side the size of the files?

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justinh:

oh for fuck's sakes!

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Abo:

justinh: du does did what seems to be my whose tree structure. I don't know what to do with this information.

[13:04:23]

Abo:

justinh: what? sorry, am a new and little slow on the uptake.

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Abo:

justinh: yes I download stuff, why?

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Abo:

justinh: du /home is much shorter list. But still do not know what to do with the information. Do I just go and delete files with large numbers (size)?

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GreyFoxx:

Abo: He left a few minutes ago

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Abo:

Thanks!

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hashbang:

Abo: find . -type f -printf "%s %p\n" | sort -rn | less

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hashbang:

Abo: will give you a list of files and their paths from the current directory (.) sorted by decreasing size

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vbman2:

can someone assist me with mythtv?

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vbman2:

i set my card up .and i go to watch tv but... it freezes

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jya:

what does the log states when you start mythfrontend with -v audio,playback

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vbman2:

first i have the hvr-1600

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vbman2:

holdon

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vbman2:

jya where is the mythtv log

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jya:

it will be output on the command line where you start mythfrontend

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jya:

run mythfrontend with

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jya:

mythfrontend -v audio,playback

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vbman2:

holdon

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GreyFoxx:

:q

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wagnerrp:

is that the 'i can touch my nose with my tongue' smiley?

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GreyFoxx:

heh sure, better than the "hey IRC isn't vi" response :)

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Dibblah:

Heh. For anyone wondering how low-power the Joggler (Atom N520) is, they use a plastic heatsink.

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wagnerrp:

plastic? why bother?

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Dibblah:

http://jogglerwiki.info/index.php?title=CPU_Heatsink_Replacement

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Dibblah:

That's a relatively good question.

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wagnerrp:

but even with that, it still cant handle TDP for extended periods

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wagnerrp:

(even with the mod, that is)

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wagnerrp:

thats an utterly horrible design

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Dibblah:

Allegedly, the "stand" is also part of the heatsink, but I don't see any metal -> metal contact.

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Abo:

Hi All, I am still having issues with my mythtv (mythbuntu)installation and after some up and downs, help from justinh and hasgbang, I am looking at my mysql.err log and am at at loss please help – http://pastebin.com/hMEdsgRW

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wagnerrp:

i almost wonder if they ran a bunch of plastic through the form just to get the shape down

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wagnerrp:

and accidentally let all those parts get used in production

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wagnerrp:

that has to be a mistake

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wagnerrp:

no one would be that stupid as to intentionally design it that way

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Dibblah:

You can't really injection mould aluminium for that sort of thing.

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wagnerrp:

extrude, or welding only?

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wagnerrp:

does that thing have a POTS modem?

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wagnerrp:

no, apparently that big rectangular box with wires coming off of it is the LAN hardware

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wagnerrp:

ive only ever seen stuff that looked like that on modems

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johnnyj:

it's the little boxy thing with numbers on it

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wagnerrp:

maybe it is modem

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wagnerrp:

some sort of acoustic transformer

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johnnyj:

my blt drive went waol

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wagnerrp:

you have some form of motor that provides you with BLT sandwiches?

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johnnyj:

that would be fantastic

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johnnyj:

i had a segfault issue yesterday and once I recompiled with the profile build I couldnt get it to segfault

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Abo:

Hi All, mysql wont start, see error.log (http://pastebin.com/VMs4QBG6), please help.

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iamlindoro:

Abo: You should seek help in #mysql, or #yourdistro

[16:06:41]

iamlindoro:

(instead of asking here every 30 minutes)

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iamlindoro:

We really only troubleshoot MythTV here-- For tuner issues we send people to #linuxtv, for mysql to #mysql, etc.

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skd5aner:

iamlindoro: finally had a chance to play around with MNV again this weekend, worked well once I figured out the focus issues – only probablem I see is a lot of flashing during playback

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skd5aner:

imagine that, flash is flashing

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sphery:

skd5aner: That would be due to the fact that Adobe is clueless about video and do video in RGB or RGBA and will not consider using YUV with a colorspace conversion (so they say that Xv and any other *nix video API is unusable).

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sphery:

thus the 100% CPU usage on full-scren Flash displayed at 1080p on a dual-core 3GHz CPU or whatever

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dougt_:

cool blu-ray support in x264: http://x264dev.multimedia.cx/?p=328

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sphery:

wow, someone should do that for MythTV

[16:22:33]

sphery:

oh, wait...

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sphery:

dougt_: also, note that there's absolutely no decryption support available, so it's not like it will allow you to play Blu-Ray videos

[16:23:30]

dougt_:

yeah, first step, i think.

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dougt_:

f'ing DRM.

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dougt_:

btw, comcast cable's boxes have the most flakey support of firewire evar!

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sphery:

well, I can hardly blame the content producers when even MythTV users create programs to populate the MythVideo database with information about stolen videos

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dougt_:

?

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sphery:

http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/433486#433486

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dougt_:

i don't steal.

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sphery:

Just saying that far too many people do

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iamlindoro:

Can MythTV play Blu Ray disk structures yet?

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dougt_:

sphery: that script has nothing to do with pirates.

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sphery:

iamlindoro: Yep!

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iamlindoro:

sphery: awesome

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iamlindoro:

;)

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sphery:

dougt_: did you read the script?

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dougt_:

just the comments about it...

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sphery:

http://mythadder.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/mythadder.py

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johnnyj:

sphery: where is that mythburn.py patch again (please) ?

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dougt_:

sphery: mostly being devil's advocate here...

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sphery:

dougt_: oh, wait... wrong script... This one: http://mythvideo-scanner.googlecode.com/svn/t . . . o-scanner.pl

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sphery:

too many people doing scripts that all do what's already built into MythtV

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sphery:

dougt_: specifically: $markers->{scene} = [

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sphery:

"PROPER","SCREENER","KAMERA","INTERNAL", "LiNE","iAPULA","LIMITED","DIMENSION",&q uot;DIAMOND","inf","iNFAMOUS" ];

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dougt_:

ah,

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dougt_:

yeah, that part probably should be factored out.

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sphery:

johnnyj: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/8376

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sphery:

dougt_: And the crazy part is the guy actually created a Google Code project for it and put his own name/contact info on it

[16:29:27]

dougt_:

sphery: but I thought all of this was built in, like you said. if I drop videos into my /var/myth/video (or whatever) directory, myth find them and will fetch meta data.

[16:29:39]

sphery:

anyway, apologies to pest789/mythadder for accidentally accusing the wrong script

[16:29:43]

johnnyj:

tu sir

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sphery:

dougt_: and even worse, he asks for donations for his script that he users to parse stolen video file names

[16:30:09]

skd5aner:

sphery: IT'S A WITCH!

[16:30:26]

sphery:

heh

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sphery:

johnnyj: lots of testing and improvements appreciated

[16:31:04]

dougt_:

sphery: well, that is dumb. the economics are just not there. better to just give it away....

[16:31:19]

sphery:

johnnyj: might want to talk with paul-h to see if he has any specific ideas for how it should be implemented (i.e. as a fallback for when tcrequant isn't avialable or ...)

[16:31:54]

sphery:

yeah, not to mention, just how wrong is it to not only make a script to use for stealing videos, but also to ask others who use it for money

[16:32:10]

sphery:

after all, aren't the freetards who steal videos the exact type of people who would refuse to donate?

[16:32:55]

sphery:

anyway, the reason it was done as a separate script is because MythVideo won't properly parse the filenames of stolen videos and these lazy thieves are too lazy to even rename their stolen videos

[16:38:07]

sphery:

iamlindoro: So, I think perhaps your news got buried in my rant... dougt_ didn't even seem to notice. :)

[16:38:39]

iamlindoro:

They'll figure it out when it gets committed ;)

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dougt_:

sphery: reads up.

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sphery:

dougt_: it's not officially announced, but all you need to know is up there

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dougt_:

oh fFF!

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johnnyj:

i'm starting to consider writing a theme

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sphery:

s/to know/to figure it out/

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iamlindoro:

sphery: [*]

[16:39:24]

sphery:

johnnyj: as long as it's not a port of an old legacy theme, yay!

[16:39:27]

iamlindoro:

* Feature only available on iamlindoro's computer

[16:39:33]

sphery:

heh

[16:39:47]

sphery:

iamlindoro: well, I have an early impl, which could probably be coaxed into working

[16:40:02]

sphery:

of course, I have no Blu-Rays--encrypted or not--so...

[16:40:05]

iamlindoro:

sphery: And you have logs that point at the patch which is now a fully working version

[16:40:09]

johnnyj:

nah I thought I'd take arclight as a starting point and mod it into something it's not

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iamlindoro:

sounds awesome

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sphery:

iamlindoro: much easier than fixing the .pro issues

[16:40:22]

iamlindoro:

I'll take three

[16:40:47]

sphery:

johnnyj: so, the recommendation is usually to start from scratch...

[16:40:53]

sphery:

You'll get a much more consistent/proper theme

[16:41:07]

sphery:

start by making all the widgets, then put them in screens

[16:41:29]

johnnyj:

i was actually curious if any of the theme writers had a quick write up on what a dev cycle looks like on theming

[16:41:41]

sphery:

iamlindoro: did you do a writeup on the process? Either on -theming list or on the wiki?

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iamlindoro:

-theming probably has some basic notes about that

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johnnyj:

i've read it twice and it will prolly make more sense when I actually do it

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sphery:

johnnyj: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ . . . 03884#403884

[16:43:01]

sphery:

http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ . . . 16696#416696

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iamlindoro:

http://mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-theming/20 . . . /000139.html

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sphery:

http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ . . . 96655#396655

[16:43:29]

johnnyj:

ah inkscape – that answers my 1st question

[16:44:10]

sphery:

yeah, that last one from me is the bird's-eye view of the process

[16:44:17]

sphery:

the first from me describes the inkscape usage

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johnnyj:

this is all exactly what I was hoping for

[16:44:30]

sphery:

(and the first from me seems to be the thread with the one from iamlindoro )

[16:44:51]

johnnyj:

it's all in the mulling it over phase

[16:45:08]

iamlindoro:

Reading (and understanding) http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythUI_Theme_Development from top to bottom will greatly increase the chances that you will succeed

[16:45:16]

iamlindoro:

and following the tutorial when it prompts you to do so

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johnnyj:

i'm not really an artistic person – I'm more of a problem solver, so taking an existing theme and 'fixing it' seems more appealing to me – but I will take your suggestion of from scratch seriously

[16:46:13]

dougt_:

is there a good overview of playback profiles. I do not understand (http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Playback_profiles).

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dougt_:

i am wondering if there can be a "auto" profile that will look at cpuinfo and gpu settings, and just do the right thing.

[16:47:43]

iamlindoro:

Not with present code

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iamlindoro:

johnnyj:

[16:48:10]

iamlindoro:

johnnyj: Note that "fixing" existing themes when things you are fixing are likely to be artistic choices might be poorly received ;)

[16:52:20]

johnnyj:

iamlindoro: please forgive – I did put that term in quotes on purpose – there's nothing "wrong" with arclight

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wagnerrp:

dougt_: i dont really understand that news article, doesnt x264 already output bluray-compatible video?

[16:52:30]

johnnyj:

why else would i want to start with it ?

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dougt_:

i didn't think so wagnerrp.

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iamlindoro:

wagnerrp: AIUI the key issues were NAL-HRD compliance and HRD timing information being missing

[16:55:05]

xand:

if they'd chosen a sensible method of bluray compression, you could have HD movies on DVDs and bluray wouldn't be needed :D

[16:55:06]

iamlindoro:

wagnerrp: Also, Criterion paid to have it officially compliance tested, so it has a "official" stamp of approval now too

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xand:

s/bluray/video/

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iamlindoro:

xand: Huh? Then your movies could be painfully low bitrate or 20 minutes long?

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wagnerrp:

iamlindoro: so does that mean were going to start seeing the x264 command line string showing up in criterion releases?

[16:56:10]

iamlindoro:

Anyone who thinks that 3 Mbit internet theft-video is "as good" as real bluray is too much of a thief to buy real bluray

[16:56:19]

iamlindoro:

wagnerrp: heh, I somewhat wondered

[16:57:31]

iamlindoro:

wagnerrp: http://git.videolan.org/?p=x264.git;a=commit; . . . 23c7d0c9f505

[16:57:52]

wagnerrp:

so still no response from that author after i explained 'your script is not welcome'

[16:58:07]

wagnerrp:

guess hes more willing to hide in the shadows than the librarian guy

[16:59:07]

sphery:

wagnerrp: which script? on our wiki?

[16:59:19]

wagnerrp:

no, the one you linked to

[16:59:35]

wagnerrp:

googlecode one

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sphery:

ahhh--you e-mailed the author?

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wagnerrp:

http://www.mythtvtalk.com/forum/general/13044 . . . etadata.html

[17:00:35]

sphery:

wagnerrp: speaking of scripts on the wiki... This may be another wrench in the gears: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki?title=Myth_sensors . . . ;oldid=44714

[17:01:38]

sphery:

That's probably the only script that contains HTML entities, but to get them to show up properly in browser, I had to use & for the & in ℃

[17:01:39]

wagnerrp:

you mean as far as the html tags?

[17:01:50]

sphery:

just the ℃

[17:02:10]

wagnerrp:

what was it RDV did for that example xml for the mnv grabbers?

[17:02:33]

sphery:

I'd be happy to change the page if you know of a good way to enclose it

[17:02:58]

** iamlindoro did the MNV grabber docs **

[17:03:06]

sphery:

basically, look after "Current CPU Temperature: %s " in the before/after

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wagnerrp:

ah, no... the source was compliant, but the rendered page wasnt

[17:03:27]

iamlindoro:

yeah

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sphery:

I'm also wondering if ⅝ was a typo as it doesn't look like a degree symbol

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sphery:

(it was pulled straight from the CPP code that used to have the libsensors call)

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sphery:

http://www.danshort.com/HTMLentities/index.php?w=fract says it's 5/8, but in my browser, it's some Arabic(?) character

[17:06:03]

sphery:

http://www.mountaindragon.com/html/iso.htm says ° for degree

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sphery:

shows as degree in my browser on the backend status page, though

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sphery:

ah, 8541 != 8451... &#8451 is deg C

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sphery:

at least in <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">

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wagnerrp:

funky

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wagnerrp:

i get two completely different pages for Category:Scripts

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wagnerrp:

depending on whether im logged in or not

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wagnerrp:

including it reporting being access an additional 600 more times

[17:13:54]

wagnerrp:

some sort of ISP caching?

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sphery:

wagnerrp: me too

[17:15:18]

wagnerrp:

some sort of server-side caching?

[17:15:22]

sphery:

all the categories are gone

[17:15:29]

sphery:

except the original one

[17:15:36]

sphery:

wonder if I've been making them wrong

[17:15:47]

sphery:

original being Python Scripts'

[17:15:53]

wagnerrp:

look at the view count

[17:16:00]

wagnerrp:

theyre way off

[17:16:11]

sphery:

This page was last modified on 18 May 2006, at 18:02

[17:16:14]

sphery:

strange

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wagnerrp:

no, thats right

[17:16:28]

wagnerrp:

no one has edited that category

[17:16:33]

wagnerrp:

only referenced stuff into it

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sphery:

oh, based on when someone made the "This category contains useful scripts "

[17:16:57]

wagnerrp:

i mean you keep hitting refresh, and it stays at 8106 views

[17:17:01]

wagnerrp:

its being cached somewhere

[17:18:04]

sphery:

I'm wondering if our caching is breaking it

[17:18:19]

sphery:

have a feeling if we edit the scripts page, it will update

[17:18:22]

sphery:

but only once

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sphery:

wagnerrp: it has a Cache-Control: private, must-revalidate, max-age=0 and Last-Modified: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 08:48:07 GMT and Expires: Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 GMT

[17:21:51]

sphery:

so I'd think it has to be our on-server caching

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sphery:

no eTag, but the above should prevent caching on web caches

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sphery:

for the subcategories

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wagnerrp:

sphery: looks like ill have to build a library of 'bad strings' for this thing

[17:23:37]

sphery:

sorry... :(

[17:23:48]

sphery:

for the HTML entity?

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wagnerrp:

i already have nbsp, but quot, amp, lt, gt, etc...

[17:24:11]

sphery:

I haven't been escaping < (though I may have in one of them...)

[17:24:23]

sphery:

I was thinking I verified it wasn't required in them, though

[17:24:31]

wagnerrp:

this myth_sensors.pl has them all over the place

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sphery:

ah, but the wiki escapes them for me

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wagnerrp:

right

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sphery:

in the <pre>

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sphery:

forgot that someone had to do it

[17:25:20]

sphery:

yeah, myth_recent_recordings is also messed up

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sphery:

"

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sphery:

could you just run it through some HTML-unescape function?

[17:26:01]

wagnerrp:

maybe

[17:26:21]

sphery:

don't know if you have one in the dependent libs

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sphery:

anyway

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wagnerrp:

but for #8541, im still going to have to figure out a way to handle that separately

[17:26:51]

sphery:

oh, btw, it's ℃

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wagnerrp:

the standard python file i/o is ascii

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sphery:

but all I escaped in it is the &

[17:27:04]

wagnerrp:

meaning 7-bit text

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sphery:

so it's just a & -> &

[17:27:16]

wagnerrp:

there is no temperature symbol in standard ascii

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sphery:

it should be in the code as ℃

[17:27:34]

sphery:

because the code is ASCII

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sphery:

and because we don't want to put a non-ASCII char in the HTML source

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wagnerrp:

ah, didnt check to see if you had corrected it yet or not

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sphery:

it's correct in the current rendered view of that page

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sphery:

so it's just the & that needs unescaping--along with the others you found <, >, ", etc.

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wagnerrp:

sphery: looks like there is an 'escape()' function, but no 'unescape()'

[17:30:25]

sphery:

that's too bad

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sphery:

probably put the unescape functionality in some rendering lib

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wagnerrp:

oh, seems i can use the htmllib to parse it

[17:33:46]

sphery:

So, the key is different for the logged in and not logged in versions of the page

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wagnerrp:

seems the library im using to build the etree actually does all that kind of parsing for me

[17:34:04]

sphery:

not logged in:

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sphery:

logged in:

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wagnerrp:

which is why i ended up with '\xa0' instead of ' '

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sphery:

missing the "!edit=0" in the logged in version

[17:35:16]

wagnerrp:

but it still doesnt handle the html special characters

[17:36:05]

wagnerrp:

although it seems like that wont matter

[17:37:11]

wagnerrp:

sphery: yeah... non-issue

[17:37:16]

wagnerrp:

that file works just fine as it is

[17:37:22]

sphery:

cool

[17:37:31]

sphery:

I didn't actually look at a downloaded file

[17:37:37]

sphery:

sorry for the noise

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wagnerrp:

it shows up exactly as it does on the rendered page

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sphery:

now to figure out the categories page

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sphery:

sweet

[17:38:31]

sphery:

did you finish up the Script info tags?

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wagnerrp:

no, havent touched it in a few days

[17:38:54]

sphery:

just wondered

[17:38:57]

wagnerrp:

been working elsewhere on the bindings

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sphery:

seemed a lot had them

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wagnerrp:

no, i was holding out to rethink the actual fields provided

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wagnerrp:

now that it grabs all available code boxes, rather than the filename specified

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sphery:

ah, cool

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sphery:

wagnerrp: well, I purged the cache for that page... If you notice new categories not appearing, we may need to do it again (just add ?action=purge to the end of the URI)

[17:55:58]

wagnerrp:

yeah, saw the discussion... thanks

[17:56:34]

wagnerrp:

you think contact information would be worthwhile? or would just just be likely to cause spam?

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sphery:

for scripts?

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sphery:

I've been using a poor-man's obfuscation for any e-mails in the scripts I put up there

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wagnerrp:

yeah

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sphery:

figured it would be a bad spam thing

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wagnerrp:

put in a contact field into the 'script info' template

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wagnerrp:

trac unresponsive to anyone else?

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J-e-f-f-A:

sphery: Hehehe... I created an email address of "junk_inbox@___.net", and use that for all my stuff – spambots throw it away as they assume it's fake... ;-) Been working perfectly for a few years now...

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Wicked:

is embeded subtitles in mkv files still not supported in mythvideo? i could not get them to work and google suggests that as of 0.22 its not fully impletemented

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iamlindoro:

PGS and other sitmapped subtitles work fine

[18:13:37]

iamlindoro:

embedded text is unsupported

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iamlindoro:

s/sitmapped/bitmapped/

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iamlindoro:

If you want a supported configuration, re-rip and don't convert to text

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Wicked:

ok so its still not implemented

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iamlindoro:

correct

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Wicked:

thanks :)

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iamlindoro:

And probably won't be, there's little reason to

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Wicked:

really?

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Wicked:

thats just silly

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iamlindoro:

really

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iamlindoro:

Oh?

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iamlindoro:

Do explain

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Wicked:

having everything in one file is much nicer

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iamlindoro:

You can still have them in the MKV

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iamlindoro:

it's *less* work to rip with bitmapped subtitles

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iamlindoro:

Only reason you would be "stuck" with a text subtitle is with a stolen file

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iamlindoro:

in which case we don't care

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wagnerrp:

Wicked: all optical content comes with bitmapped subtitles

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wagnerrp:

its easier for both parties to simply support the bitmapped subtitles

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wagnerrp:

it just takes up a bit more space, which is inconsequential compared to the storage required for large quantities of video

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Wicked:

hmm ok. i dont know what options i used to do this....

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iamlindoro:

Please don't be silly

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iamlindoro:

we're not stupid

[18:17:22]

iamlindoro:

it's not a matter of the "options"

[18:17:35]

iamlindoro:

since you can't just tick some box to turn bitmaps into text

[18:17:38]

iamlindoro:

it takes work

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wagnerrp:

in order to make text subtitles, you have to go through a lengthy process to train the OCR software against that specific movie

[18:18:09]

wagnerrp:

last time i tried, it took me about 15 minutes to do the whole thing

[18:19:12]

Wicked:

i had done this movie a month or two back...and it was my 1st time. i dont remember the details...trying to find the guide i used.

[18:19:25]

wagnerrp:

versus maybe 5 minutes to actually set up the rest of the rip/encode

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** iamlindoro sighs **

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Wicked:

i guess ill just use xmbc or mplayer for right now to watch this....then look into reripping

[18:19:52]

Wicked:

so archiving into myth

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Wicked:

*for

[18:20:38]

Wicked:

ah nice! mplayer picked up on the subtitles without my doing anything

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stuartm:

what's the test we run to see if PulseAudio is running in 0.22? A laptop frontend is complaining that pulse is running but it's not

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sphery:

stuartm: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/trunk/myth . . . il.cpp#L1278 , so if you're running vim /path/to/pulseaudiosucks.html , it might trip

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wagnerrp:

sphery: cant figure out a way to pass in URLs to that template, without them being turned into links

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wagnerrp:

either i force it to plain text processing, and they never get substituted in

[18:34:58]

wagnerrp:

or i get a big '<a>' structure

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sphery:

URLs for?

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stuartm:

sphery: funky, nothing in the process list containing 'pulse' let alone 'pulseaudio'

[18:35:16]

wagnerrp:

external links, like for the mythlink.pl page

[18:35:24]

sphery:

stuartm: also see http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/trunk/myth . . . til.cpp#L334

[18:35:40]

sphery:

assuming one of those is your error

[18:35:50]

sphery:

wagnerrp: ah, yeah, you mentioned that

[18:36:07]

wagnerrp:

not that i recall

[18:36:26]

sphery:

you mentioned the idea for using URL's to external scripts

[18:36:31]

wagnerrp:

oh

[18:36:33]

sphery:

not that it didn't work

[18:36:56]

johnnyj:

iamlindoro: do you know where your post on figuring coordinates from inkscape?

[18:36:58]

sphery:

in other words, I should have remembered that

[18:37:25]

stuartm:

sphery: well the 0.22 version anyway, starting to think that Colin or whoever the packager is these days has changed the test :/

[18:37:33]

** mag0o marks down today as the first day that sphery forgot something **

[18:37:40]

iamlindoro:

johnnyj: I think that sentence is missing a verb

[18:37:47]

johnnyj:

is?

[18:37:58]

wagnerrp:

yes, it is

[18:38:11]

johnnyj:

(i was hoping your mind would fill in the blank and not notice it)

[18:38:15]

iamlindoro:

johnnyj: I'm pretty sure it was posted when you said you were interested in theming

[18:38:26]

iamlindoro:

(ie, it's in the log)

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mag0o:

after a while, you start doing the themeing math in your head

[18:38:43]

stuartm:

sphery: ok thanks, I have to bend Colin's ear anyway as the mandriva packaged apps aren't reporting a complete version string

[18:38:47]

johnnyj:

did you or sphery 'say' it?

[18:38:56]

iamlindoro:

Yes, sphery did

[18:38:57]

iamlindoro:

http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ . . . 96655#396655

[18:39:17]

johnnyj:

thanks

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sphery:

stuartm: cool... would be nice if you can get that fixed--"Unknown" is not a useful version

[18:40:14]

sphery:

(or Exported or whatever)

[18:40:14]

wagnerrp:

the natives are getting restless... http://mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/2010-April/287441.html

[18:40:38]

sphery:

well, TTBOMK, there's only one remaining blocker

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iamlindoro:

j-rod: ^^

[18:44:28]

iamlindoro:

http://mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/2010-April/287442.html

[18:44:52]

iamlindoro:

s/atrpm's/ATRPMs/

[18:45:02]

wagnerrp:

iamlindoro: isnt that just the same guy as before?

[18:45:05]

sphery:

I'm guessing that the upgrade fails to remove old stuff properly

[18:45:08]

iamlindoro:

Is it the same guy?

[18:45:20]

iamlindoro:

Same complaint, thought it might be a second complaint

[18:45:27]

sphery:

did someone call 911 for him, yet?

[18:45:30]

sphery:

P.S.: My wife is killing me!!

[18:45:36]

iamlindoro:

heh

[18:45:58]

j-rod:

iamlindoro: no clue on that one, does look like probably some broken rpm deps going from 0.22 to 0.23 in atrpms.

[18:46:02]

iamlindoro:

wagnerrp: Other guy was "todd"

[18:46:06]

wagnerrp:

iamlindoro: 'todd', right

[18:46:11]

iamlindoro:

vs. Thomas

[18:46:14]

wagnerrp:

yeah, close, but probably not the same person

[18:46:23]

iamlindoro:

j-rod: If they are distinct, then it's the second identical complaint

[18:46:37]

j-rod:

they should be filing bugs w/atrpms

[18:46:43]

iamlindoro:

j-rod: Anyhoo, know it's not your repo, just thought you might know who to ping

[18:46:47]

wagnerrp:

j-rod: weve tried to tell them

[18:46:52]

j-rod:

they fail.

[18:47:02]

j-rod:

I could drop axel a line

[18:47:06]

sphery:

at least this went to -users list and not straight to mythtv trac

[18:47:12]

iamlindoro:

heh

[18:47:18]

wagnerrp:

http://www.mythtvtalk.com/forum/installation- . . . t-start.html

[18:47:20]

iamlindoro:

j-rod: http://www.mythtvtalk.com/forum/installation- . . . t-start.html

[18:47:21]

iamlindoro:

HA

[18:47:43]

wagnerrp:

booyah!

[18:47:44]

sphery:

I got the one from wagnerrp first--probably because OH is closer to FL than CA

[18:47:56]

iamlindoro:

that thread is AngryIamlindoroEnabled (tm)

[18:48:01]

wagnerrp:

beirdo confirms it

[18:48:03]

j-rod:

srsly? I have to register before I can even look at shit there?...

[18:48:10]

iamlindoro:

j-rod: just click outside the box

[18:48:11]

sphery:

just click the gray background

[18:48:17]

sphery:

annoying, though

[18:48:17]

** iamlindoro WINS **

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j-rod:

that's better.

[18:50:13]

** sphery DNS **

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sphery:

no need for NBNS here

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wagnerrp:

yeah, dirty windows user

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sphery:

heh

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j-rod:

I sent axel mail

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iamlindoro:

If he made sound effects professionally, he could be Axel Foley

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wagnerrp:

only if he doesnt complaint about not getting professional unpaid support from someone who doesnt even supply the software

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flohack:

Hi! I have a problem with a mythtv DB upgrade after an hardy -> lucid upgrade. I read http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Fixing_Corrupt_Database_Encoding but could not fix the problems.

[19:05:01]

flohack:

I always had wrong characters in my setup (seemed to be caused by xmltv). Can I somehow force the DB upgrade?

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sphery:

flohack: I need to see output of a DB ugprade attempt

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sphery:

i.e. mythbackend or mythtv-setup log output

[19:13:17]

sphery:

standard verbosity (-v important,general )

[19:14:23]

flohack:

sphery: give me a second, please

[19:14:51]

flohack:

http://pastebin.com/P4PupjQV

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flohack:

sphery: As you can see, it suggests the wiki article

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sphery:

flohack: and what distro are you using for your mythconverg database host (the mysqld server that hosts mythconverg)?

[19:16:12]

J-e-f-f-A:

iamlindoro: – Ha! Great response... That guy must have forgotten to take his meds...

[19:16:31]

flohack:

sphery: ubuntu for all systems (backend (db), frontend)

[19:16:45]

flohack:

upgraded from hardy to lucid

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flohack:

sphery: here is the mysql status output http://pastebin.com/b6Wn1tM6

[19:20:56]

sphery:

flohack: and has your mythconverg database always been on ubuntu?

[19:20:57]

flohack:

sphery: I concluded that the data in my people db is already in the wrong encoding by taking a dump and opening the file with kwrite in latin1 encoding. still garbled umlauts...

[19:21:41]

sphery:

a 0.21-fixes database backup /should/ be garbled in any text editor

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flohack:

sphery: Basically I would like to bypass the checks in mythtv-setup and force it to upgrade

[19:21:49]

sphery:

if it's not, /then/ you have a problem

[19:21:55]

sphery:

flohack: you can't do that

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flohack:

sphery: hmm

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sphery:

again? flohack: and has your mythconverg database always been on ubuntu?

[19:22:16]

flohack:

sphery: yes

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sphery:

flohack: then you can try: mysql -umythtv -p mythconverg -e 'TRUNCATE TABLE people;'

[19:22:58]

flohack:

sphery: ok, give me a second please

[19:22:59]

sphery:

flohack: that will get past that error. If you get any other errors, let me know because if you don't fix it properly, your MythTV will not work properly

[19:23:05]

wagnerrp:

hardy is 0.21?

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iamlindoro:

should be

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sphery:

well, 1214 was 0.21-fixes schema version

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iamlindoro:

Hardy->Intrepid->Jaunty->Karmic->Lucid

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sphery:

1214, 1244, 1254... what will be 0.24-fixes?

[19:23:51]

iamlindoro:

I mean what could possibly go wrong with five distro upgrades? ;)

[19:23:54]

flohack:

sphery: the -fixes might have been in the backports repo

[19:24:10]

wagnerrp:

so thats an old one, 8.04?

[19:24:11]

sphery:

well, regardless, you're using 0.21-fixes or before :)

[19:24:53]

** wagnerrp wonders why everyone has to speak in code **

[19:25:19]

sphery:

"Stay tuned for million-bottle giveaway..." "Be one of the first callers..." Really isn't a good marketing campaign when they've been using it for >1M days...

[19:26:27]

flohack:

sphery: YES, that did work!

[19:26:33]

flohack:

sphery: thanks a lot!

[19:26:41]

** wagnerrp wonders what company has had a toll free number for the past 2700 years **

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flohack:

sphery: Now I need to fix xmltv as it seems :-)

[19:26:58]

sphery:

flohack: cool... if anything else was broken, you'd have had to do a lot more work

[19:27:11]

sphery:

flohack: chances are you don't have to fix anything--now that you're using semi-recent MythTV

[19:27:19]

sphery:

0.22-fixes and above, that is

[19:27:36]

iamlindoro:

If he's on Lucid, that means he should even be on .23-fixes now

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sphery:

I hope so

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iamlindoro:

(though he should still enable the auto-builds to keep the fixes coming)

[19:27:51]

sphery:

as 0.23-fixes is what everyone should be running

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flohack:

sphery: Let's see if the frontend makes any more trouble :-)

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sphery:

flohack: and, yes, make sure you enable the auto-builds

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sphery:

http://www.mythbuntu.org/auto-builds

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iamlindoro:

sphery: As the users list said, "It's like the functionality of .21 with all the new bling!"

[19:28:16]

flohack:

sphery: it's 0.23 indeed

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j-rod:

iamlindoro/sphery/et al: axel says "that's from the updated qt in Fedora"

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j-rod:

i.e., they're running new mythtv built against new qt, with an old qt version still installed.

[19:29:22]

flohack:

ok, video and music schema upgrade worked as well

[19:29:30]

j-rod:

and they need to just yum upgrade

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sphery:

j-rod: cool...

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iamlindoro:

j-rod: So the packages don't check that?

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j-rod:

I guess not.

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iamlindoro:

heh

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j-rod:

I'd have assumed rpm auto-deps should have taken care of that.

[19:30:18]

iamlindoro:

OK, cool, we'll know what to tell people about that then

[19:30:19]

iamlindoro:

thanks

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j-rod:

unless the qt soname didn't change.

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j-rod:

axel packages things … much differently than I do.

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j-rod:

uses some hacks to create libfooX sub-packages for every package, as is the norm elsewhere

[19:31:14]

j-rod:

er, for every library

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j-rod:

I just package 'mythtv-libs' containing all the libraries, which is the typical convention for Fedora/RH distros.

[19:32:07]

sphery:

does someone who understands these yummy things want to reply to the thread

[19:32:40]

sphery:

seems there's a tie in at http://mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/2010-April/287454.html

[19:33:02]

j-rod:

sure, I'll reply

[19:33:06]

sphery:

he says: I actually had a similar problem, after I originally just activated atrpms-testing and did "yum updte *myth&"

[19:33:13]

sphery:

so perhaps that's a bad way to upgrade

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j-rod:

well, in a sane world, the dep on newer qt would have been present, and it would work fine

[19:41:50]

j-rod:

but yeah, when in doubt, upgrade dependencies as well

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iamlindoro:

j-rod: Thanks for responding so quickly, And thank you for something to try with those folks in the future

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j-rod:

np

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sphery:

yes, thanks

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mag0o:

bahahah, this amazon 'retailer' is playing ice cream truck music for their hold music

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mag0o:

even funnier, she picked up from hold to tell me to please continue to hold

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mag0o:

yay, optical audio switch + 4 6' optical cables for $10 since they had it listed that way on the description.

[20:06:31]

mag0o:

(my surround sound receiver only has one optical in)

[20:06:52]

iamlindoro:

I have managed to scrape by with two, but I can't recall how

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mag0o:

i do have 2xcoax audio input, but only one device uses that

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wagnerrp:

sphery: success!

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sphery:

on the external URL?

[20:09:41]

wagnerrp:

yeah, got the wiki to print it straight without altering it

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sphery:

nice

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iamlindoro:

wagnerrp: So it really *was* user error, not even packager error-- odds the first guy will ever acknowledge fault? :)

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iamlindoro:

natanojl: You == jonatan, right?

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natanojl:

correct

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wagnerrp:

sphery: new patch up if you want to try it

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iamlindoro:

Thank you for the patch, the cleanups are much appreciated-- In general tickets are fine but when it's a patch rather than a bug report I don't mind e-mail either

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natanojl:

ok, I'll remember that

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wagnerrp:

iamlindoro: so... user error, please fix your system

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wagnerrp:

guy just wouldnt believe me

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iamlindoro:

natanojl: Nah, it wasn't a correction, just answering what you asked in e-mail-- we get few enough patches that either way is fine with me :)

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iamlindoro:

bug reports can always go to tickets :)

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wagnerrp:

and feature requests can go burn?

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stuartm:

some of us prefer a ticket, since it's less likely to be lost/overlooked

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natanojl:

iamlindoro: yeah, I read it as the answer to my question the email

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iamlindoro:

cool

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iamlindoro:

yeah, a ticket is always okay, but you did enough work on that patch that I can hardly get offended :)

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natanojl:

hehe

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wagnerrp:

gurjeet: if youre looking for an overview of how mythtv works, see http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Executive_Overview

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sphery:

gurjeet: at least, here is more appropriate place for discussion of hardware for MythTV than is #mythtv

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gurjeet:

wagnerrp: I think that'll answer some of my questions.. will ping back if needed.. Thanks

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vbman2:

anyone herE?

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nutron:

no

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** nutron tries to stop fiddling with zsh **

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vbman2:

nutron can you help why mythtv is freezing on livetv

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nutron:

pretty much anyone can, just ask your question.

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nutron:

describe your problem

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sphery:

if it's freezing at the program change boundary, it's because you're using Live TV

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sphery:

solution: don't use Live TV

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sphery:

all other guesses will be held until you describe the problem :)

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nutron:

:o livetv == bustered

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nutron:

discuss on mythtv-users

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nutron:

:)

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dfletcher:

mmm mythbusters on mythtv. this is pretty much completely awesome :)

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nutron:

mythical even

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dfletcher:

hehehe

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nutron:

or are they busting mythtv?

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dfletcher:

heh what's to bust? 0.23+fixes is approaching nirvana ;)

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nutron:

I wouldn't call it an orgasm just yet, I see no features pertaining coffee makers...

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** dfletcher adds it to TODO **

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nutron:

heh

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dfletcher:

ooh and a creepy 2001 Hal computer voice. Good morning Dave. Would you like coffee with your mytbusters? :)

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stuartm:

it's all fun and laughter until your mythtv box starts killing people

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nutron:

What's the worst that could happen...?

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nutron:

myth ? ... myth ?... open this door! I need my shot of 90210. Nooooo!

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nutron:

ok.. zsh is making me quiver with excitement... I must get back to coding

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sphery:

wagnerrp: sounds like jafa could use your help setting up a reproducible test case

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sphery:

defining the bounds of the failures for the HDHR stuff

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jsumners:

is there a remote command for PageUp/PageDown when browsing videos?

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iamlindoro:

? PageUp and Page down work fine

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iamlindoro:

If I understand your question, and I'm not sure I do, it sounds like maybe you're not aware that *you* are the one who maps keys on the remote. If you want page up and page down on your remote, then modify your lircrc and bind buttons to those keys

[22:33:53]

iamlindoro:

(guessing maybe a mythbuntu user where they write some default mappings out for you)

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jsumners:

iamlindoro: on http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Keybindings they are not listed under the "Remote Controls" section so i wasn't sure

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jsumners:

no, i know that i need to specify the mapping. i just wasn't sure what the mapping would be

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iamlindoro:

Those keys are just a few of many, many keys that are bound in myth

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iamlindoro:

PgUp, PgDown, I believe

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jsumners:

well, PgUp is working

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jsumners:

maye page down is PgDwn

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iamlindoro:

Could be PgDn

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jsumners:

it's not PgDwn so let's give that a show

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jsumners:

s/show/shot

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jsumners:

nope

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jsumners:

:-/

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jsumners:

doh!

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jsumners:

i had a typo

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iamlindoro:

So the right answer was...

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jsumners:

PgDown

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iamlindoro:

;)

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jsumners:

i had PdDown and didn't catch it

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jsumners:

thanks for the help

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iamlindoro:

np

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johnnyj:

is http://svn.mythtv.org/trac not responding ?

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johnnyj:

there it goes

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dfletcher:

http://fletchtronics.net/usb-keyboard-remote

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dewman:

dfletcher, is that your design?

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dfletcher:

yeah I make those dev boards .. and heh yeah I designed that super simple circuit too

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** dfletcher needs a better picture **

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tzanger:

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4 . . . ewozgray.jpg

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tzanger:

that's a pretty good picture

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dewman:

dfletcher, Very cool......

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dfletcher:

thanks!

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dfletcher:

I think my next remote though is a long-term project. built-in LCD, capability to browse while watching. trackball mouse, acclerometer. etc. the ULTIMATE remote ;)

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iamlindoro:

wagnerrp, not sure if this is due to recent changes, but the bindings seem unhappy with mirobridge: http://paste.ubuntu.com/423064/

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** sphery moves mirobridge to the "legacy, broken, user-contributed scripts" section of the wiki **

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sphery:

(joking)

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iamlindoro:

!trout sphery not-until-MNV-works-just-as-well

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** MythLogBot slaps sphery with a not-until-MNV-works-just-as-well trout on behalf of iamlindoro... **

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RDV_Linux:

sphery: I just dialed 911 ;)

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sphery:

heh

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sphery:

!trout iamlindoro get-MNV-working-right

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** MythLogBot slaps iamlindoro with a get-MNV-working-right trout on behalf of sphery... **

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iamlindoro:

!trout sphery where-are-those-patches-you-promised-back-in-2009

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** MythLogBot slaps sphery with a where-are-those-patches-you-promised-back-in-2009 trout on behalf of iamlindoro... **

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sphery:

and the trouts will fly!

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sphery:

I don't think the MNV stuff is waiting on any of those patches

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sphery:

besides, didn't you just implement them all yourself?

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iamlindoro:

Only the ones I had to

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iamlindoro:

which are just a fraction of those you've promised ;)

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sphery:

heh, that's how I do it

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sphery:

promise a patch, see if someone else will implement it for me, then--if not--give up and do it myself if I have to

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sphery:

fortunately, johnnyj hasn't figured this out, yet

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