Beirdobot, irc.freenode.net

Sunday, March 28th, 2010, 00:02 UTC

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Wicked:

hmm hello all. i was going through my collection and downloading metainfo when mythfrontend locked up...and now when i restart mythfrontend....it crashes and i see this in the output: http://pastebin.com/bWC8FD80

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iamlindoro:

Error is plain english ;)

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iamlindoro:

Your timezones are misconfigured-- they need to be the same (not just the same offset)

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Wicked:

mythfrontend never did this before crashing

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sphery:

EDT != America/New_York

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Wicked:

it crashed and now it does this and wont run

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iamlindoro:

so you should fix it

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sphery:

what crashed?

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Wicked:

mythfrontend

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sphery:

the process or the computer?

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Wicked:

process

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iamlindoro:

The above is not a crash

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Wicked:

locked up

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iamlindoro:

not locked up

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Wicked:

iamlindoro, no. its the result

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sphery:

what locked up?

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iamlindoro:

hung QProcesses, but has nothing to do with why your FE won't start

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iamlindoro:

sphery, it's just the Qt QProcess bug

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iamlindoro:

it's not locked

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iamlindoro:

Ctrl-C

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Wicked:

mythfrontend locked up when i was adding movie info....i minized the window to check top.......and mythfrontend would not refresh when switchign back

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Wicked:

and now mythfrontend does that

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iamlindoro:

Again, fix your timezone issues, and the FE will start fine

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sphery:

basically if your mysqld didn't shut down right--because you hit Reset button or whatever when something that may or may not have locked or crashed before what you're getting now--you probably have a broken DB and need to run mysqlcheck -r

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sphery:

but regardless, you need to fix your time zone settings

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Wicked:

system never crashed. just mythfrontend

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sphery:

either they're wrong in the terminal or they're wrong on the system

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Wicked:

yea...but why would it all of a sudden be wrong?

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Wicked:

ive had mythfrontend open the last hour or so...everything was fine...then it crashed...and now this

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sphery:

Wicked: because someone changed something?

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Wicked:

it was litterally fine one second...then this the next

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Wicked:

not since mythfrontend was open

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sphery:

I suggest you reboot

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sphery:

quickest, easiest way to put your system in a good state

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ComradeHaz`:

Good evening all. If I were to build a machine with the intent of capturing (recording) with http://www.ebuyer.com/product/140477 What sort of spec processor would I need?

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Wicked:

front or backend?

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sphery:

ideally both

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Wicked:

:o

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sphery:

if you want, try just the frontend, if that doesn't work, then both

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ComradeHaz`:

Reboot a linux box?!

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ComradeHaz`:

pff :D Never!

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sphery:

ComradeHaz`: feel free to explain to him in detail exactly how all the init scripts and settings on his system--including the ones that are broken in some or all environments--work so that you can walk him through the multi-hour process of reconfiguring his system to a known good state

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sphery:

ComradeHaz`: that will save him the 30s of rebooting

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ComradeHaz`:

hehe, ok, you win :D

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sphery:

so, couple hours of your + his time versus 30s of a computer's time... Probably fair?

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ComradeHaz`:

uptimehaz@tux:~$ uptime

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ComradeHaz`:

00:15:59 up 175 days, 11:39, 2 users, load average: 0.79, 0.69, 0.71

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ComradeHaz`:

:P

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Wicked:

im just curious as to why this happend.

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sphery:

"Don't have to reboot" doesn't mean "Shouldn't reboot."

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Wicked:

*happened.

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sphery:

Wicked: because something changed

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sphery:

feel free to figure out what changed and where, but I have no interest in doing so

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sphery:

when a 30s reboot will likely fix things

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ComradeHaz`:

get etckeeper

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ComradeHaz`:

anyway

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ComradeHaz`:

wot I sed? Anyone have any thoughts

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ComradeHaz`:

?

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sphery:

etckeeper won't restore the environment, right?

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ComradeHaz`:

no, but might help next time :)

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sphery:

i.e. the environment in any running processes

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ComradeHaz`:

no, but if it's due to a a config change....

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ComradeHaz`:

might be able to pin it down if he's access to that

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ComradeHaz`:

mind you

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ComradeHaz`:

that sais

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ComradeHaz`:

*said

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ComradeHaz`:

figuring out what's happened even with that is probably beyong most non-geeks :D

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sphery:

ComradeHaz`: Assuming that card is supported in GNU/Linux (see http://linuxtv.org/wiki ), since the card will dump already-encoded-by-the-broadcaster MPEG data, the recording load will be negligible on any modern hardware. (Basically just the load of writing a file to disk at a couple GB per hour.)

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sphery:

however, commercial flagging and transcoding can take up CPU

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ComradeHaz`:

hmm, well disc access will be to my RAID 5 server

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sphery:

and if you're using the system as a combined frontend and backend--meaning you'll do playback as well as recording--you'll need a system that can properly decode the video you're given by the broadcaster in real time.

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ComradeHaz`:

over gigabit lan

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ComradeHaz`:

so that should be OK

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sphery:

right, but couple GB per hour is negligible without raid :)

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ComradeHaz`:

aye

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sphery:

that was supposed to indicate it's basically no load

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iamlindoro:

strongly suggest not putting recordings on RAID

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iengelhardt:

Hello there...

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Wicked:

rebooting the frontend did not fix it

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sphery:

so commflagging, transcoding, and playback are where you'll get load

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ComradeHaz`:

why iamlindoro?

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sphery:

Wicked: same error?

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sphery:

Wicked: if so, change your time zone

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Wicked:

sphery, yea

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Wicked:

my timezones are the same as the where

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sphery:

then you were running MythTV 0.21-fixes before

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sphery:

or they've changed

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sphery:

one of the 2

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iamlindoro:

ComradeHaz`, Because you will be thrashing all of your disks every time you make a recording, delete a recording, watch Live TV, etc... You will wear this disks out much, much faster

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Wicked:

0.23-fxies

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jamesd_:

iamlindoro, because linux software lvm/raid sucks.. and adds a lot of pain that just isn't worth it.

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Wicked:

*0.23-fixes

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ComradeHaz`:

meh

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sphery:

Wicked: so change your time zone back to what it was before

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sphery:

because it changed

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ComradeHaz`:

they're up and running all the time anyway

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iamlindoro:

ComradeHaz`, and because Myth does a much better job by using its own storage group functionality, which aggregates volumes

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sphery:

Wicked: and, in truth, where it needs changed is the broken backend configuratoin

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iamlindoro:

Up and running is much different than reading adn writing to them constantly

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Wicked:

i just double checked and they are both the same...and they are the same as they have been

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sphery:

Wicked: because EDT is /not/ a valid time zone setting

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sphery:

(not valid for any MythTV box)

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sphery:

because it means you'll have to change time zone when we go back to EST

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Wicked:

so where do i change it? mythtv-setup?

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iengelhardt:

Hello Jamesd_ I am a noob, mind if I ask you a question?

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ComradeHaz`:

well, my only storage is 5 1.5 TB discs and they're in a RAID, so meh

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ComradeHaz`:

it'll be fine :D

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sphery:

and you don't want to change it on every system every time DST starts/ends

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sphery:

Wicked: no, on the system

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** iamlindoro sighs **

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sphery:

using the system configuration tools that are distro specific

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ComradeHaz`:

if the die I swap :)

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sphery:

I have no idea how to do it on your distro

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jamesd_:

iengelhardt, ask and some here will figure out an answer or make one up ;-)

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Wicked:

i just know....mythtv was doing fine...i added a bunch of movies using "w" to get metainfo...it then locked up....non responsive for 5+ mins...i then ctrl + c'ed mythtv

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Wicked:

*mythfrontend

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sphery:

ComradeHaz`: not using RAID has the huge benefit of reducing fragmentation significantly

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sphery:

ComradeHaz`: assuming you have multiple file systems

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ComradeHaz`:

fragmentation?

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iengelhardt:

Hey guys, I can't watch LiveTV on my Frontend, using the HDPVR as a capture device...

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ComradeHaz`:

are we talking windowsy things here?

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sphery:

technically, you could have multiple RAID file systems and you'd get the same benefit, but you need at least one file system per concurrent recording

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Wicked:

all the systems are america/new york

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Wicked:

nothing changed on them

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ComradeHaz`:

I use a linux software raid containing LVM's of ext3

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iengelhardt:

This is all I get: Invalid file descriptor in 'safe_read()'

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iengelhardt:

2010-03–26 18:38:40.846

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iengelhardt:

RingBuf(/home/iengel/Videos/LiveTVcache/1391_20100326183818.mpg)

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sphery:

Wicked: reboot the backend

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sphery:

if it is set to America/New_York, all will be fine when it reboots

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sphery:

something changed the time zone of that process

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ComradeHaz`:

uh

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ComradeHaz`:

well, the clocks change here tonight

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ComradeHaz`:

could that have anything to do with it?

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Wicked:

we had daylight savings...but like...2 weeks ago

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sphery:

he's in the US where they changed a while back

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ComradeHaz`:

aye, Irealise that

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jpabq_:

iengelhardt: it used to work?

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ComradeHaz`:

hmm, so the only inut on that card appears to be the satelite input :/

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iengelhardt:

No this is a new system and I can capture video with CAT, but WATCHTV just fails and dumps me to the main menu

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sphery:

ComradeHaz`: uh, for DVB-S stuff, that's a good thing

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ComradeHaz`:

hmm, so what is the best way to connect a set-top-box with all the obvious outputs on it to a pc to capture?

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jpabq_:

iengelhardt: does recording work?

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iengelhardt:

Hmmm...never made it that far, I start with LiveTV, if that works, then I am usally off to the racess...

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iengelhardt:

usually off to the races..

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sphery:

ComradeHaz`: for standard definition, PVR-150/500 for standard def or HD-PVR for high-def

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jpabq_:

iengelhardt: The HD-PVR is actually more stable recording than it is for LiveTV.

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iengelhardt:

Oh...thats actually an interesting revelation...

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iengelhardt:

I did not know that...

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iengelhardt:

Do most MythTV users just use the HD-PVR for recording>

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iengelhardt:

?

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jpabq_:

Yes. If you want to use it for LiveTV, you pretty much *have* to apply some optional patches, as described on the wiki page.

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iengelhardt:

Thanks for responding jpabq_

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ComradeHaz`:

so does one connect from set top to hdpvr with an hdmi cable?

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jpabq_:

ComradeHaz`: component cables

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ComradeHaz`:

but they're analogue aren't they?

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iengelhardt:

jpabq_, do you have the HDPVR working for you?

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jpabq_:

ComradeHaz`: yes, that is why it works — HDMI is copy protected.

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ComradeHaz`:

hmm, good point

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jpabq_:

iengelhardt: yes, I use a pair of them with a couple of Directv STBs.

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ComradeHaz`:

is the quality worth the effort making the archive?

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iengelhardt:

Very cool

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sphery:

quality is very good

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sphery:

and it's legal :)

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iengelhardt:

I am hooking it up to my ShawDirect box here in Canada

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jpabq_:

ComradeHaz`: not quite HDMI but much, much, much better than s-video (or other standard-def) options.

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sphery:

If you can get a hardware CAM for your DVB-S cards, you could use that to capture the digital directly

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ComradeHaz`:

yer, I until recently ran component caples from my dvd recorder to my projector

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iengelhardt:

What permissions have you given the directories where MythTV saves the recordings?

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ComradeHaz`:

they were indeed pretty good

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sphery:

and I'm assuming you're not in the US since you were looking at DVB-S/DVB-S2

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ComradeHaz`:

indeed, UK

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sphery:

otherwise, you can't do DVB-S

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sphery:

yeah, I think you guys can get hardware CAMs from some providers or something...

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jpabq_:

iengelhardt: you might want to go through mythtv-setup again and make sure you have all the options correct. For example, make sure you have not specified a channel to pre-tune to, for the HD-PVR.

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ComradeHaz`:

yer

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iengelhardt:

Yeah, I covered that off...

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sphery:

iengelhardt: and that you /have/ specified an external channel change script

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ComradeHaz`:

there's a lot of kot we can buy legally

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sphery:

iengelhardt: you must have one--even if it's just /bin/true

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ComradeHaz`:

law's are funny here, can buy stuff that is clearly for doing dubious things with

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iengelhardt:

I am using /bin/true while I am testing...would that be good enough?

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sphery:

(one external script, and you must not have the pre-tune)

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ComradeHaz`:

but it's perfectly legal to own one, as long as you don;t use it!

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sphery:

iengelhardt: yeah, /bin/true is good for testing

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iengelhardt:

You mentioned patches...where would I find these patches? Are these mentioned on the wiki page?

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jpabq_:

iengelhardt: yes, but they only help with LiveTV channel changes, so are not likely to fix your problem.

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iengelhardt:

hmmm...

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iengelhardt:

I keep thinking that there is a permission issue here, in that the backend can't write to the folders defined in the storage groups.

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iengelhardt:

Does anyone know what these should be?

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iengelhardt:

How did you guys install MythTV? What linux flavor are you using?

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wagnerrp:

manually, gentoo

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iamlindoro:

high and low tones turned into ones and zeros, exherbo

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Beirdo:

Tell me...

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Beirdo:

why is University of Washington in the EAST Division of NCAA?

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Beirdo:

are Americans that retarded that Seattle's considered east?

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Beirdo:

or am I just on crack tonight again?

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wagnerrp:

as far as the owned territories of the US are concerned... yeah, its more easterly

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Beirdo:

but Syracuse played in the West Region?!

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iamlindoro:

Everything is east from somewhere ;)

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Beirdo:

I think they had their map upside down

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iamlindoro:

(and likewise, west)

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FreakWent:

when you use mythfrontend -v, where does it output the verbose info?

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wagnerrp:

the terminal

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wagnerrp:

unless you use -l or >, it logs to the terminal

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FreakWent:

damn

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jpabq_:

iengelhardt: the mythbackend process obviously needs permission to write to the storage directories. What user is the mythbackend process running as? What user owns the storage directories?

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** Beirdo pokes FreakWent with the language trout **

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FreakWent:

sorry

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** wagnerrp things Kentucky needs to stop trying to make those 3's **

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iengelhardt:

Hi Jpabq_ – OK the bulk of my storage is on the /home partition

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Beirdo:

heh

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Beirdo:

I'm not really much of a basketball fan

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wagnerrp:

of course WVa can try all they want

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Beirdo:

maybe I'll learn to be

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wagnerrp:

you cant grow up in kentucky and not at least like... kentucky

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Beirdo:

yeah, that does make sense ;)

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iengelhardt:

And I must admit, I am not sure which user the mythbackend process is running as. While I am testing I am logged in on my lone user acct on the box.

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Beirdo:

I may get convinced to follow the UW Huskies

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wagnerrp:

and if you dont like kentucky, the state disowns you

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Beirdo:

they send ya to TN?

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iengelhardt:

I think that the mythbackend is using the mythtv user, but when I check in the users and groups tool, there is only my user account, and root

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wagnerrp:

WTF was that

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wagnerrp:

back and forth and back and forth, and then someone just lets the ball fly out of bounds

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Beirdo:

heh

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iengelhardt:

I have everthing installed on a ubuntu karmic x64 OS

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Beirdo:

someone flash boobs?

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Beirdo:

heh

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wagnerrp:

seriously, there were like three turnovers in the course of six seconds

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Beirdo:

yikes

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iengelhardt:

Thanks for responding jpabq_

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Beirdo:

hehe and Tennessee is Midwest...

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Beirdo:

OK then

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FreakWent:

how can I get myth to talk to some other software for handling the tv? Can myth be coaxed into passing info to mplayer or VLC and accepting a strema back?

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wagnerrp:

you can sorta do it with VLC, using RTSP and an m3u

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wagnerrp:

but its at best an ugly hack

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FreakWent:

anything that works

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jpabq_:

iengelhardt: if you run "ps aux | grep mythbackend", you can see what user is running that process.

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FreakWent:

unless there's something i couldf use instead — does freevo still suck?

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Beirdo:

?!

[00:59:39]

FreakWent:

did i say something wrong?

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Beirdo:

OK, we are going to send you to "competing" software, why?

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iengelhardt:

OK – very good. I am going to try that right away...I am going suspect its a hidden mythtv user.

[01:00:00]

FreakWent:

you can't tune my dvico card, and other sware can

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Beirdo:

I'm sure it can

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Beirdo:

if any Linux software can tune it, then I'm sure mythtv can

[01:00:47]

iengelhardt:

If I wanted to grant this user full control to the storage folders I have designated in my user profile, what command would do that?

[01:00:51]

wagnerrp:

the problem is one with mythtv using the wrong frequency

[01:00:59]

wagnerrp:

why its doing so? no idea

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FreakWent:

Beirdo I'd assume the same

[01:01:14]

FreakWent:

VLC has 0 problem, instant picture, crystal clear

[01:01:38]

FreakWent:

myth gives 74%, 4.8 SNR, (LMs) and no picture

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FreakWent:

but only for certain cahnnels

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FreakWent:

that have a 625MHz offset on the freq

[01:02:28]

FreakWent:

my hypothesis is that tuning to the freq directly works, and that VLC does this, but asking the card to implement the offset fials — and I think myth might be doing this

[01:02:28]

iengelhardt:

chown mythtv, then chmod 777

[01:02:43]

jpabq_:

iengelhardt: this isn't really a linux support channel, but.... chown is used the change the ownership of a file or directory. chmod is used to change the permissions. chgrp changes the group.

[01:02:49]

FreakWent:

I'm trying to get femon running to get more info, because -v channels was useless.

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jpabq_:

iengelhardt: if the correct user owns the directory, you only need that user to have permissions. 777 gives EVERYONE persmission.

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FreakWent:

Beirdo does that make sense?

[01:03:54]

Beirdo:

yeah, it could make some sense

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Beirdo:

does it do this for every channel, or just some?

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iengelhardt:

oh I know ... this is for mythtv only... I can hack that out.

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Shadow__X:

hey iamlindoro are you around i have an osx spotlight search question you might know the answer to

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wagnerrp:

does he use OSX for anything?

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Shadow__X:

wagnerrp: ireally thought he used macs i am pretty sure remembering he atleast had one mac

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FreakWent:

Beirdo it *only* does it for channels from a specific broadcaster in my area, and that broadcaster is the only one that doesn't end on a round GHz boundary for the frequency.

[01:06:27]

jpabq_:

iengelhardt: also realize that the mythbackend user also needs permission to read from your capture devices.

[01:06:33]

FreakWent:

other people have had the same problem with the same hardware

[01:06:53]

Beirdo:

FreakWent: It may be more related to the broadcaster than the hardware

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wagnerrp:

everywhere with that hardware? just in australia? just in your area?

[01:07:30]

FreakWent:

iengelhardt if you do ls -l /dev/dvb/* you can see the group that you need to add your myhttv user to

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FreakWent:

wel;l

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FreakWent:

other people don't seem to have followed up as much as me, but for example

[01:07:54]

FreakWent:

http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies- . . . /521910.html

[01:08:08]

FreakWent:

http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/7302

[01:08:26]

FreakWent:

And there's a long blog post by a dude in Brisbane

[01:08:49]

FreakWent:

it seems to be that you get this if you have DViCO gear, mythtv, and any channel with an offset.

[01:09:08]

FreakWent:

The driver author, who I contacted, wrote to me and said

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Beirdo:

could be the driver is borked

[01:09:44]

FreakWent:

If the ABC has an offset from the advertised frequency in your area, why not just adjust the frequency that you tune up by 166kHz? I believe that's what most STBs, etc, do.

[01:09:54]

FreakWent:

Beirdo yeah

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FreakWent:

but he also said:

[01:10:16]

FreakWent:

I'm not familiar with any problems with the drivers for the zarlink chip – at least the stuff I wrote years back had a lot of use around Aus with few problems reported and none outstanding that I'm aware of (none specific to this chip anyway).

[01:10:58]

FreakWent:

so, see, it works mostly, I assume a lot of developers just stick the freq in and tune to that, instead of doing it 'properly' and using offset features in the card, and the driver, that possibly don't work.

[01:11:05]

Beirdo:

sounds like a driver snafu to me

[01:11:20]

Beirdo:

the first link you gave kinds agrees

[01:11:32]

FreakWent:

Since, in general, broadcasters don't use offsets, and people use hauppage or w/ever, I'm a bit of an edge case

[01:11:39]

Beirdo:

wish my friend still worked at Zarlink :)

[01:11:40]

FreakWent:

yeah so if we agree it's a driver snafu

[01:11:45]

FreakWent:

o.O me too!!

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FreakWent:

look:

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wagnerrp:

wow... after 20 attempts, UK makes their first 3 of the night

[01:12:43]

wagnerrp:

only 3 minutes left in the game

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Beirdo:

I don't know enough of the details of the DVB-API to give sane guesses as to how to go about tweaking things at all

[01:13:20]

FreakWent:

from the author:

[01:13:27]

FreakWent:

If *you* have somehow managed to get either of DViCO or DiBcom to respond to you, please pass on my address and ask them to contact me directly.

[01:13:32]

FreakWent:

so, you know.. it sucks

[01:13:47]

FreakWent:

and the whirlpool link I posted also says that there was trouble getting the details from the makers

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Beirdo:

and which is the core issue

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FreakWent:

it is, indeed

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FreakWent:

and it would probably be of more concern

[01:14:35]

FreakWent:

if mythtv was not the only software I can find taht can't tune the card.

[01:14:45]

FreakWent:

everything else I tried can.

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Beirdo:

well, you could go read the code for mythtv and something that works, and try to determine the differences in the use of the DVB-API

[01:15:45]

FreakWent:

I spose...

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Coded1:

any one familiar with mythnettv? I used mythnettv-gui to add subscriptions and it works(downloads the video) now I need to remove some subscriptions, using the gui I enter the feed url and click "Unsubscribe" but when I goto "Subscriptions > Show next 5 downloads" it still shows the same feed. any tips?

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FreakWent:

kinda hoping someone else could do that for me :)

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Beirdo:

heh. keep hoping :)

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Beirdo:

use the source :)

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iengelhardt:

jpabq_ I just saw that last comment – how do I grant the mythTV user (which as it turns out from PS grep is the user MythTV is running under) access to my capture devices?

[01:17:59]

wagnerrp:

iengelhardt: add that user to the group which owns those devices

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Beirdo:

FreakWent: unfortunately my todo list is pretty long, and I have no way to test, etc

[01:18:44]

FreakWent:

iengelhardt try

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FreakWent:

sudo nano -w /etc/group

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Beirdo:

wagnerrp: any idea if the mythweather author is ever on IRC?

[01:18:58]

FreakWent:

and find the group (probably video, maybe not)

[01:19:30]

wagnerrp:

Beirdo: not sure who exactly is in charge of that

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FreakWent:

and add the mythtv user to that group by adding ,username to the end.

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iengelhardt:

Hi FreakWent – what am I editing in that config file? Will it be obvious?

[01:20:00]

FreakWent:

http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-linux-add-user-to-group/

[01:20:00]

Beirdo:

wagnerrp: ah. Well... I'm just thinking of how to add the copyright to each page :)

[01:20:10]

wagnerrp:

iengelhardt: you need to add the user mythbackend is run as to the group that owns those devices

[01:20:20]

iengelhardt:

Oh got your last comment ok very good Thanks a bunch

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wagnerrp:

Beirdo: gbee seems to have the most commits against it

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wagnerrp:

but theres half a dozen other devs on there as well

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Beirdo:

K. I'm sure themers will be annoyed to have to squeeze more text in :)

[01:21:57]

Beirdo:

but I think it's probably a good plan anyways

[01:24:36]

Beirdo:

anyways... I think I'm gonna make 18h be 36h for yr.no :)

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Beirdo:

heh

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Beirdo:

within TOS, but kinda will look odd

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wagnerrp:

i think this is the most mount of play ive ever seen in the last two minutes of the game

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Coded1:

I know SQL enough sql to get this done manually, in the mythnettv/database.py it makes a reference to "gFlags" which seems to hold the default values does anyone know where these gflags are stored?

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Beirdo:

That's not a standard plugin, is it?

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Coded1:

me?

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wagnerrp:

mythnettv is an unofficial, and fairly unused pluging

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Beirdo:

right

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wagnerrp:

i doubt theres many people around who have used it

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Beirdo:

ask the authors :)

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Coded1:

:)

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wagnerrp:

and fewer who know anything of the internal workings

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Coded1:

mythnetvision is supposed to be better, but only in 0.23 and not in ubuntu repos yet

[01:30:28]

wagnerrp:

it should be

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Coded1:

o rly

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Beirdo:

so wait... or use SVN

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wagnerrp:

it should have been available in 10.04 builds for weeks

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RDV_Linux:

Coded1: There is a Ubuntu Package but you must already be using the Mythbuntu 0.23 PPA

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wagnerrp:

how was that not goal tending?

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Coded1:

RDV_Linux, sweet if I add the PPA will I have to uninstall 0.22 first?

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wagnerrp:

guess it was too far from the basket

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RDV_Linux:

wagnerrp: It is available with 9.10 and 0.23 will be standard with 10.04

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Coded1:

or will it just update 22 – 23

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Beirdo:

wagnerrp: I wonder if setting the low temp to "unknown" or "---" would work

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wagnerrp:

i really dont like bob huggins

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RDV_Linux:

Coded1: No you just go to the Daily Builds and switch repositories from 0.22 to 0.23 and you will upgrade. See http://www.mythbuntu.org/auto-builds

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wagnerrp:

i dont mind UK losing, or WV winning... i just dont like Huggins

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RDV_Linux:

Coded1: The assumption is that you are already using Mythbuntu.

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Coded1:

RDV_Linux, im using plain ubuntu with mythtv installed after

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RDV_Linux:

Coded1: You may want to hold off until 10.04 is release Apr 29th to save your self two upgrades. U set my test systems by installing Ubuntu and then apply the Mythbuntu packages so that should not be a problem. I may be an issue if you compiled Myth on top of Ubuntu.

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RDV_Linux:

s/U/I/

[01:37:20]

RDV_Linux:

s/I may/It may/

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jpabq:

iengelhardt, you can use the gpasswd command to add a user to a group. For example "gpasswd -a mythtv video" Would add the mythtv user to the video group.

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jpabq:

Oops, he is gone.

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Coded1:

RDV_Linux, never compiled the source its all from repos

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RDV_Linux:

Coded1: Then check out the Daily build link I gave you a few minutes ago.

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Coded1:

RDV_Linux, in progress :) thanks

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[R]:

i'm trying to figure out why my backend doesn't shutdown sometimes when its idle... i'm seeing 2 TCP connectinos from the backend to itself on port 6543 in the TIME_WAIT state... what could cause that?

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Coded1:

RDV_Linux, its asking me which repo I want to use {DE,UK,US,PPA} I would guess US (im from canada) but PPA is throwing me off

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[R]:

oh n/m... now they are gone

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RDV_Linux:

Coded1: I am also from Canada and use the US one they are all the same just different distances away from you.

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Coded1:

thanks ... eh

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RDV_Linux:

Coded1: The PPA one throws a lot of people off.

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Coded1:

RDV_Linux, Its getting easier and easier to manage the package system, I like

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Coded1:

updating right now

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RDV_Linux:

Coded1: Just a side note the mythnetvision package is separate from the regular Mythbuntu packages so even after you upgrade to 0.23 you need to use Synaptic to add the "mythnetvision" package.

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Coded1:

RDV_Linux, thanks again

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Coded1:

will do

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RDV_Linux:

Coded1: I think this has/will change with Mythbuntu 10.04

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Coded1:

RDV_Linux, Do I use mythnetvision from mythfrontend?

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RDV_Linux:

Coded1: Yes it only works from a FE

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Coded1:

its still trying to load FE 0.22

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Coded1:

then seg faults

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Coded1:

/usr/bin/mythfrontend.real: Symbol `_ZTV19MythTextInputDialog' has different size in shared object, consider re-linking

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Coded1:

mythfrontend version: branches/release-0-22-fixes [22594] www.mythtv.org

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wagnerrp:

eeww.... bad... evil...

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Coded1:

i agree

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wagnerrp:

no, youre running a buggy, pre-release version of mythtv

[02:00:43]

wagnerrp:

0.22 wasnt released until somewhere around 22750

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Coded1:

http://pastebin.ca/1854305 << take a look at that. It keeping back mythtv-frontend ?

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sphery:

Coded1: you tried to upgrade to 0.23 and it's still using 0.22-fixes?

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Coded1:

sphery, apparently

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sphery:

I'm guessing this is Mythbuntu based on the pre-release version number you have, right?

[02:04:17]

wagnerrp:

and the mythfrontend.real

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sphery:

wagnerrp: wonder if they have something broken that's causing this--like with the DB editor guy from the list

[02:04:34]

sphery:

ah, yeah, the real...

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sphery:

Coded1: did you try a reboot, too

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Coded1:

ahh no I did not brb

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clever:

[R]: TIME_WAIT means something was connected, but disconnected recently

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[R]:

clever: yeah, it was mythshutodwn

[02:06:33]

clever:

its to keep the port from getting re-used too soon i think, to prevent confusion

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[R]:

i gave up and just restarted the backend

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Coded1:

same thing :(

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sphery:

Coded1: I'd recommend uninstalling all mythtv packages, then installing the 0.23 packages

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Coded1:

ya I'll give it a go

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sphery:

(I'm assuming you got 0.23 with packages and had 0.22 packages before)

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Coded1:

sphery, you got it

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sphery:

when you've finished uninstalling, make sure you have nothing at /usr/{,local/}lib/libmyth*

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Coded1:

sphery, all done looks clean

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Coded1:

sphery, RDV_Linux it looks good mythtv-0.23 was listed for install with lots of other goodies

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donFTW:

my listings in mythweb look all messed up now since the upgrade to 0.22

[02:14:44]

wagnerrp:

how so?

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donFTW:

just says 2, 3, 4, 5 instead of 2 ( CBS ), 4 (NBC), 5 (FOX)

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donFTW:

wonder why that would change. logos are gone too. i used to have those shown

[02:16:08]

donFTW:

maybe the location where it looks has changed since the upgrade and db schema change

[02:16:17]

donFTW:

bunch of other shit did ;p

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sphery:

wonder what's borking the upgrade

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Beirdo:

donFTW: language, please :)

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Beirdo:

you did upgrade mythweb along with mythtv, correct?

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donFTW:

ah sorry Beirdo. wont happen again

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wagnerrp:

upgrading mythweb?

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Beirdo:

it's understandable that you are frustrated, of course

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donFTW:

yeah, also upgraded mythweb

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donFTW:

no im not frustrated

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donFTW:

hehe

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Beirdo:

OK, not sure what to suggest then

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donFTW:

hrm in recorded programs, when it lists the programs there isnt any channel information listed

[02:22:01]

donFTW:

listed title, subtitle, program id, original airdate, airdate, then channel is blank, then it shows length, file size..

[02:22:13]

donFTW:

thats not right. hrm.

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Beirdo:

ave you filled the database after the upgrade?

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Beirdo:

that MIGHT help, not sure

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donFTW:

mythfilldatabase yeah

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donFTW:

it goes through without any errors

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donFTW:

think in the .21 -> .22 upgrade something in the db isnt happy heh

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donFTW:

hrm i even have a mythweb/data/tv_icons directory owned by the apache user... hrm

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Coded1:

When I try to watch a youtube video from mythnetvision === (<unknown>:8446): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_window_get_origin: assertion `GDK_IS_WINDOW (window)' failed

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Coded1:

FE is locked up, have to kill it

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FreakWent:

mythtv source code is hard to understand.

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wagnerrp:

i imagine one could say the same thing about any sufficiently large project

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Coded1:

wow .23 is looking much sharper

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Coded1:

in mythnetvision is there anyway to copy/paste the rss url ? kinda sucks having to write it down and type it in

[03:07:35]

FreakWent:

wagnerrp I would have to agree

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FreakWent:

in VLC I've found if( (ret = ioctl( p_sys->i_frontend_handle, FE_SET_FRONTEND, &fep )) < 0 )

[03:08:06]

FreakWent:

which makes some sense

[03:08:15]

FreakWent:

but in myth I can't get that deep.

[03:08:21]

FreakWent:

anyway

[03:08:26]

FreakWent:

Might get back to it some other time

[03:17:16]

Wicked:

hmm. i have some videos that are like "MAIN DIR/TV MAIN DIR/Movies" then like MAIN DIR/TV/Show/Season1...and mythtv gets a poster for Season1...so when im in the shows dir...all the season folders have a nice picture...but when im in MAIN DIR/TV/ all the folder with tv shows are the default blank question mark...how cani get mythtv to download the show icon for the folder?

[03:18:17]

wagnerrp:

add a 'folder.jpg'

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Wicked:

yea. theres now automated way?

[03:18:35]

Wicked:

*no

[03:19:07]

wagnerrp:

not at current

[03:19:20]

Wicked:

whats weird is it does get shows thumbs..but only randomly.

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Wicked:

like it found a thumbnail for Cops and the show DEA

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wagnerrp:

there is a image search

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Coded1:

my bad, copy paste works for mythnetvision ... :)

[03:19:47]

Wicked:

but not for all the others

[03:20:14]

wagnerrp:

where it will do a breadth first (i believe) scan through all videos within that folder, and grab the first image it finds

[03:20:17]

Wicked:

i guess i may just have to manually download all the shows pictures myself

[03:22:40]

pizzledizzle:

hm, i deleted all recordings in /var/lib/mythtv/recordings but they're still listed in the frontend. when i try to delete them from the list, it tells me file doesnt exist (no duh).. how do i clean up the list?

[03:23:14]

pizzledizzle:

good sirs, i seek your help

[03:23:24]

Wicked:

it should ask

[03:23:38]

Wicked:

if the files are not there..mythtv will ask if you want to remove them from the database as well

[03:25:19]

pizzledizzle:

it doesn't :(

[03:26:19]

Wicked:

hmm

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Coded1:

pizzledizzle, if you press "m" for menu does it give an option to rescan

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pizzledizzle:

nope, just tried it :(

[03:32:46]

pizzledizzle:

im in watch recordings menu

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pizzledizzle:

i select recording, hit delete, it asks me if i want to delete it, i say yes, it asks me if i want to delete it (again), i say yes, and the recording is still there

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wagnerrp:

that can happen with orphaned recordings

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Wicked:

i imported some files into mythtvideo....but realized some are mislabeled...so i renamed them...and rescanned in mythtvideo....but they are still showing up the same. i have to goto each video...hit i...goto metadata...then reset metadata on each file for the new file names to be effective....

[03:47:14]

wagnerrp:

in 0.23?

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Wicked:

and when a whole season is off by 1...its a major pita....and when its more then just one season....

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Wicked:

wagnerrp, yea

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wagnerrp:

because it now recognizes that the video has moved

[03:47:35]

wagnerrp:

and only updates the filename in the rdatabase

[03:47:47]

wagnerrp:

rather than recreating and flushing all your metadata

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Wicked:

hmm. i had not gotten any metadata yet.

[03:48:26]

wagnerrp:

but you still had the videometadata entries

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pizzledizzle:

so how do i remove those files?

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Wicked:

i just imported the videos into mythvideo....realized they where mislabeled....renamed them...rescanned.

[03:48:55]

pizzledizzle:

or rather how do i remove those entries of recordings

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wagnerrp:

you have to remove them out of the folder completely, and rescan

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Wicked:

wagnerrp, hmm i do like that mythtv hashes the files and keeps data..but it should only do it after scraping or something.

[03:49:27]

Wicked:

i see

[03:50:09]

wagnerrp:

talk to iamlindoro about that one, the scan in the python bindings has the same behavior as mythvideo

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Wicked:

would be nice if when you where on a folder...you could hit i..then reset metadata or something

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wagnerrp:

that would probably get handled the same way as recordings

[03:54:03]

wagnerrp:

i.e. you create a playlist, and then do various operations on the playlist

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Wicked:

hmm

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wagnerrp:

and before you ask, playlists will probably go in some time after the video/recording database rework

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wagnerrp:

which AFAIK is still only in planning

[04:04:12]

Wicked:

hmm ok

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pizzledizzle:

sirs, i have found a solution to my problem. i will share my genius with you: i went into mysql database, figured out the names of the files that are supposed to be deleted, created them, and then used front end to delete them

[04:09:21]

Wicked:

hmm..whats the proper way to install jamu? the wiki does not really say how to install it...and running it from the default location gives me errors saying: "! Warning – MythTV python bindings could not be imported, error(No module named MySQLdb)"

[04:11:06]

Wicked:

this is on 0.23-fixes as of a day or so ago....normal install..installed mythtv,mythplugins....

[04:13:37]

Wicked:

does jamu not work with 23-fixes?

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wagnerrp:

then you need to install MySQLdb

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wagnerrp:

jamu works just fine on 0.23

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wagnerrp:

its a python plugin, used to access the database

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Wicked:

hmm.

[04:15:46]

Wicked:

ok

[04:16:20]

Wicked:

i thought it was asking for some kinda python module? from mythtv.

[04:16:32]

wagnerrp:

python module... yes, from mythtv... no

[04:16:37]

Wicked:

i see a python mysql package in the package manager...installng it now

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wagnerrp:

its trying to load the mythtv python modules

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wagnerrp:

however they are failing to load, due to the lack of database access

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Wicked:

ah

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Wicked:

ok its installed...but still not working right. it now cannot find the scripts

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Wicked:

! Error: To search for movies movies the IMDbPy library must be installed.Check your installation's repository or check the following link.from (http://imdbpy.sourceforge.net/?page=download)

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Wicked:

that is provided by mythtv right?

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wagnerrp:

no, that is a separate thing pulled in my jamu

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wagnerrp:

use your package manager, or the link provided

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Wicked:

oh. i thought these where all maintained with mythtv...and when instaling myth they where too

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wagnerrp:

they should be pulled in as dependencies, but they are not maintained by mythtv

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Wicked:

ah ok.

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Wicked:

thanks for the help man :)

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JeffATL:

what's the userspace command for selecting outputs on a pvr-150?

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JeffATL:

found it – v4l2-ctl

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innatech:

Hey all. Having a little trouble adding a second HVR-1600 card to my backend (CX-18 based.) Set it up the same as the first card, which is working, but the frontend fails and locks up on a black screen when I switch to it.

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innatech:

The first card comes up fine after a front-end restart, and I can capture raw output from /dev/video1 and play it back w/vlc on the back end, so the second card appears to be functional.

[05:50:15]

innatech:

I'm at a loss as to what the problem might be.

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wagnerrp:

innatech: check your backend logs

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innatech:

wagnerrp: will do, was just starting to do that. Anything in particular I should be looking for?

[05:52:36]

wagnerrp:

anything that looks like an error, timestamped at the time of the failed recording

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innatech:

I'm seeing "get playback URL should be local but could not be found" errors. Lots of them.

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innatech:

strangely formed, though: "2010-03–27 22:46:25.228 ERROR when trying to delete file: /GetPlaybackURL/UNABLE/TO/FIND/LOCAL/FILE/ON/videodrome/1202_20100301100001.mpg. File doesn't exist. Database metadata will not be removed.

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innatech:

"

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innatech:

Nothing conspicuous aside from that.

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wagnerrp:

then for some reason, it cannot access that tuner card

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innatech:

hmm.

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innatech:

And for the record, I was just trying to view LiveTV on the second card, not record anything.

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wagnerrp:

same thing

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innatech:

yeah, I figured. This is the sort of thing I'm not sure how to address--what would prevent Myth from accessing the card when "cat /dev/video1 > test.mpg" appears to work OK?

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wagnerrp:

file permissions?

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innatech:

Myth doesn't seem to be having any trouble creating files when viewing LiveTV on the first card.

[06:00:21]

wagnerrp:

either mythbackend doesnt have access to the device node, or you messed up configuring it

[06:00:32]

wagnerrp:

those are the only two things i can think of

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innatech:

Well, I used the same config as the first HVR-1600. I'll take a look at the device node, but as I didn't change anything there I'd expect the default to be correct. I'd blame the hardware, but manual capture is working. So it's probably my fault, just wish I could figure out how.

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innatech:

Perms on /dev/video0 and /dev/video1 are identical.

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innatech:

Stat does show different "device type" for /dev/video0 and /dev/video1. (51,0 and 55,5 respectively.) Is that normal?

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wagnerrp:

yes, those are the major and minor

[06:06:32]

wagnerrp:

see 'man mknod'

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innatech:

yeah, OK. Been an eternity since I've thought about this stuff.

[06:12:39]

innatech:

Seeing more entries in the log now: "Could not get inputs for the capturecard. Perhaps you have forgotten to bind video sources to your card's inputs?" Strange, as I just ran the back end config and checked that.

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innatech:

Another anomaly is that myth isn't showing the DVB input on the second CX18. Only on the first.

[06:16:14]

innatech:

second HVR-1600, that is.

[06:18:03]

innatech:

nope, scratch that. It does see it. I just had a menu glitch setting it up. DVB is OK.

[06:20:27]

FreakWent:

can anyone direct me to some documentation on getting mythtv to use mplayer or xine or something else to handle the DTV card?

[06:21:18]

wagnerrp:

it cannot use either

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wagnerrp:

as mentioned, the only way you could have an external program handle your tuner is through VLC

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wagnerrp:

and thats only because you have have it emulate a IPTV broadcaster

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FreakWent:

aha, I see what you mean now

[06:22:13]

FreakWent:

so you tell mplayer that you have an IP TV station :)

[06:22:24]

FreakWent:

is that on a wiki somewhere?

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wagnerrp:

see the wiki page about using VLC to provide multirec, before mythtv internally had multirc

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FreakWent:

thanks

[06:22:56]

FreakWent:

I've since confirmed that xine, mplayer and vlc all work fine with my card :(

[06:23:23]

wagnerrp:

which i cant seem to find, but the dreambox page on the wiki is basically the same thing

[06:26:24]

FreakWent:

thanks

[06:26:36]

FreakWent:

anyway I'm now really sad that mythtv is essentially the best system

[06:26:50]

FreakWent:

because all the others (freevo and xbmc) work for me :(

[06:27:36]

innatech:

I generally find my problems aren't with Myth per se, but the components it relies upon.

[06:28:51]

FreakWent:

yeah and that's fair enough, and true of a lot of FOSS

[06:29:17]

FreakWent:

I Was going to say more but I'm too tired.

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wagnerrp:

i have heard from one of the linuxtv devs that cards occasionally fail to work with mythtv, because mythtv acts in some unexpected, but perfectly valid way in handling tuners, exposing a bug in the driver

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innatech:

Yup, me too. I'm probably going to give up for now and take another whack at this misbehaving second card in the morning.

[06:30:05]

wagnerrp:

but not knowing anything of the internals of either, i cant put blame on anyone

[06:30:32]

innatech:

Yes--I may have to send a message to the IVTV/CX18 people. A second card identically set up failing to work doesn't make a ton of sense. They might be able to shed some light.

[06:32:16]

wagnerrp:

if you can cat the device node, its likely on mythtv's side that its not working

[06:32:16]

wagnerrp:

both are 1600s, right?

[06:32:16]

wagnerrp:

because the 1800 may seem identical to the 1600 in capabilities

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innatech:

Yes. But what's there to go wrong in myth?

[06:32:16]

wagnerrp:

but there is a known driver deficiency that causes tuning to fail in mythtv

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innatech:

I bought two of the same card.

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innatech:

I'm not using the tuner at the moment, just the svideo w/ D*tv boxes.

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wagnerrp:

i would just delete all tuners

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wagnerrp:

set them both up from scratch

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innatech:

I'll try that.

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wagnerrp:

and make sure you didnt mess something up

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wagnerrp:

DTV boxes?

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innatech:

DirecTV.

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wagnerrp:

oh...

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wagnerrp:

ok, i was going to ask why you were capturing analog off an ATSC tuner box

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wagnerrp:

with an ATSC tuner

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innatech:

heh, yeah. That'd be silly indeed.

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wagnerrp:

how are you changing channels?

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innatech:

Serial cables and the directv.pl script.

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wagnerrp:

just for kicks, change your changer script to /bin/true

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wagnerrp:

and see what happens

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innatech:

k.

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innatech:

I'll be damned. It switched inputs w/o crashing. Bad serial port on the second rcv'r maybe?

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wagnerrp:

whatever is going on, the channel changer script is returning failed

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innatech:

must be a bad port. Not a big problem, I have a pile of these old boxed. Thanks!

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innatech:

wagnerrp: that was it. Forcibly resetting the control port on the receiver did the trick. Thanks again.

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wagnerrp:

good to hear

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peque:

Hey Guys. I have 2 HVR4000 cards from Hauppauge – but getting this error: Error: SetChannelByString(3): Failed to initialize multiplex options ! on all tunercards – and no picture – could someone guide me in the rigth way to solve this

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iridium:

hello

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iridium:

do you know whether there are any plans to support VA API in mythtv soon?

[09:03:17]

wagnerrp:

plans? yes... soon? not so much

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wagnerrp:

probably by 0.25, maybe by 0.24

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iridium:

:(

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wagnerrp:

ATI or Intel?

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iridium:

ATI

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iridium:

780G

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wagnerrp:

doesnt support VAAPI anyway

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iridium:

of course it does

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iridium:

H.264 acceleration works great using a patched mplayer

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iridium:

and the latest xvba-video package from splitted desktop systems

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iridium:

(and recent catalyst versions)

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wagnerrp:

they add support for earlier cards?

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wagnerrp:

the initial catalyst support back in november was only for 4xxx and later

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iridium:

I don't know, I only know that my 780G chipset is obviously supported

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wagnerrp:

the 780G is a 3xxx series chip

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iridium:

yep, HD3200

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iridium:

and it has, AFAIK, only UVD+

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iridium:

according to some people in the phoronix forums, it even works with the older HD 2600 cards

[09:08:37]

iridium:

but as I don't have a HD2xxx card, I can't confirm this

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iridium:

http://www.splitted-desktop.com/~gbeauchesne/xvba-video/

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iridium:

it may not be as stable as VDPAU yet, but at least for some basic use cases, it already works well

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iridium:

and as there are also VDPAU backends for VA API available, I see no reason to stick to the old vendor-dependent video acceleration APIs any more

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wagnerrp:

we stick with VDPAU because it exposes additional UI and deinterlacing elements not available through VAAPI

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wagnerrp:

heres the original release article i was thinking of... http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article . . . pi&num=1

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wagnerrp:

the initial release only supported UVD2 chips (4000-series)

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wagnerrp:

not sure when they changed that

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wagnerrp:

anyway... one of the devs is working on support for a GMA500 board

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wagnerrp:

which would bring in VAAPI support, including any VAAPI capable hardware

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iridium:

:)

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iridium:

I look forward to it

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wagnerrp:

so the AMD stuff is finally working stably with linux now?

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wagnerrp:

you know if anyone still makes boards with analog TV out?

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iridium:

well, latest catalyst still don't support X.Org-server 1.7

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iridium:

+drivers

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iridium:

and I only tested the new VA API drivers with some 720p video streams, not with 1080p or 1080i

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wagnerrp:

i havent been able to find a single motherboard with svideo since the old nv6150 boards

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wagnerrp:

really makes it a pain trying to build a system for an old CRT

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iridium:

my sapphire HD3870 has an analog tv out

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wagnerrp:

motherboards, not video cards

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iridium:

hm

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iridium:

ok

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iridium:

no idea

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iridium:

sorry

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wagnerrp:

although those are going missing from video cards too now

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wagnerrp:

the latest line from both manufacturers dont have TV output anymore

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wagnerrp:

seems the only difference between UVD (2000 series) and UVD+ (3000 series) is the support for HDCP

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wagnerrp:

which wont do much good under linux anyway

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iridium:

<-- brb

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pat_:

wagnerrp: don't try the intel atom board then, it has svideo which doesn't really work properly

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wagnerrp:

pat_: and horribly underpowered to boot

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JustGav:

Good morning people

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pat_:

wagnerrp: ntsc only with no ability to correct any of the screen positions or overscan

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JustGav:

I have a small issue, just wonder if anybody has any ideas, I've got a Kworld DVB-S 100 that I've just put into a ubuntu 9.10 box, got the /dev/dvb dir, but myth is saying "Could not get card info", am I chasing my tail with a card that is bound to give me grief?

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pat_:

wagnerrp: I learnt the hard way...

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JustGav:

Been up all night searching but can't seem to find much in the way of info :(

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wagnerrp:

nothing else is currently using that card?

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JustGav:

wag, if you mean me, no, fresh install, nothing at all

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JustGav:

I've just moved the card to see if it is an irq issue potentially

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wagnerrp:

does the user running mythtv have permissions to that card?

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JustGav:

Hmmmm, let me double check when it reboots

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wagnerrp:

the udev rules on most distros put that in the 'video' group

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wagnerrp:

so the user running mythtv-setup and mythbackend must also be in the 'video' group

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JustGav:

Cheers for this btw, I came up with the idea of moving away from mediaportal... the day the wife wants to watch the GP :( ;)

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wagnerrp:

gp?

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wagnerrp:

grand prix?

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JustGav:

Australian Grand Prix, yeah

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wagnerrp:

bit late, race is over

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JustGav:

Yeah, but it is screened here in the UK at 1pm UTC

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JustGav:

Already made the mistake of finding out who wins

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artus36:

Morning all

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artus36:

I have a quick questino

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artus36:

would it be possible to shutdown the mythfrontend via mythweb?

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wagnerrp:

sorta

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wagnerrp:

you can pull up the telnet socket

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wagnerrp:

and press the proper key sequence to close the frontend

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artus36:

how about the backend?

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wagnerrp:

not at all

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artus36:

I have managed the WOL via Internet now succesfully

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artus36:

and now the machine boots up

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artus36:

I can work with mythweb on it

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wagnerrp:

for what its worth, the backend decides on its own when its ready to shutdown

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artus36:

wagnerrp: yes it does

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artus36:

I have mythwelcome running

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artus36:

but I need to start and stop mythfrontend one time at least

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artus36:

then it shuts down again

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artus36:

or I need to program a recording and it shuts down

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artus36:

can I avoid this need of running mythfrontend one time?

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wagnerrp:

never used mythwelcome, or auto-shutdown

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artus36:

so that the counter runs straight when I start the mythwelcome?

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artus36:

works nicely

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artus36:

setwake.sh writes the time to bios and machine wakes up again

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wagnerrp:

i let my backend run always, and then boot/shutdown the FEs by remote

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wagnerrp:

easier to mange

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artus36:

I have be and fe on one machine

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wagnerrp:

ive got one of those too, just stays on all the time

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JustGav:

Okay, just checked and mythtv is a member of the video group, I've moved the card so it might solve that IRQ issue, just going to quickly check

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artus36:

I want to save some power and shutdown and reboot works well now

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artus36:

WOL via Internet works now also nicely

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JustGav:

Ahh, but my user wasn't. 2 secs :)

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wagnerrp:

you arent running mythtv-setup as user mythtv?

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wagnerrp:

there are a number of sanity checks that mythtv-setup does

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JustGav:

Nah, I have a user 'manager'... it seems to have solved it adding it to the groups ;)

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wagnerrp:

that do nothing if you arent running as the same user

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JustGav:

aargh rookie mistake I suppose

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JustGav:

Thanks for that, next step tuning channels :)

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iridium:

re

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JustGav:

Going to do a quick reinstall, think I've borked it somewhere

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JustGav:

Another quick one, anyway with a mythbuntu cd to do an install to iscsi, as it doesn't seem to have a text option?

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JustGav:

I use iscsi for all my systems

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dibbz:

anyone else had hangs on mythfrontend when seeking with recordings off a hdhomerun

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dibbz:

i'm having to kill -9 Xorg

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dibbz:

deb testing/latest nvidia driver/ 22 fixes svn

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dibbz:

i get defunt children and nothing with i attach to the process

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dibbz:

been going on for a while and i just went thru updates on os/nvidia driver/svn etc

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dibbz:

tho i do get continous sigalarms if i attach to Xorg

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htpc:

Hi, does anyone know how to install themes for mythtv 0.23?

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bjd:

what do we think of the revo for a frontend job?

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matmatmat:

hello

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matmatmat:

can i have mythtv display the native resolution of a video source and let my tv upscale it?

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matmatmat:

somehow mythtv is producing a lot of artefacts here

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AndyCap:

matmatmat: have mythtv switch to the video resolution with xrandr? but I would think there could be a better solution

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matmatmat:

actually vlc upscales pretty well

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AndyCap:

what kind of artifacts?

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matmatmat:

im not sure where they come from

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matmatmat:

its a udp stream

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matmatmat:

and during fast movements, the image gets blocky

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matmatmat:

i think ill go reinstall the whole thing

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Gav:

Hiya, quick Q, where do I get dvb-s list of channels for the UK?

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at0m:

Gav: i'd look at my provider's site, or whoever is broadcasting

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Gav:

Ah, sorry I meant more for the tuning on mythtv... I know what channels :)

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Gav:

I've found the fact that you can do a channel scan for dvb-t, but not an item for dvb-s

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Gav:

Aaah, found it :)

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matmatmat:

hm damnit, no optical drive

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Gav:

Aaah, that will be issue, cx8802_start_dma() Failed. Unsupported value in .mpeg Any idea?

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Gav:

Hmm szap and dvbtraffic work fine....aaarggh

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Gav:

Hiya

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Beirdo:

iamlindoro: do you happen to know if mythweather can already handle UTF-8 input?

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Gav:

Okay, this driving me nuts, mplayer works just file with 'mplayer "dvb:BBC 1 South"' but myth refuses to tune

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sphery:

Gav: I don't know DVB-S, but you may want to read http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/DVB-S (which has some good info on it)

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sphery:

including http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/DVB-S#MythTV_Setup

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Gav:

Yeah, I've done that, and get all that... except when I hit the last next it doesn't do anything and spits out the start_dma error

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Gav:

Seems to be fairly common doing a google search, but can't find the solution

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sphery:

ah, that sounds like a driver issue

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Gav:

it works in mplayer tho which is what is throwing me

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sphery:

scan works in MPlayer?

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sphery:

you mean playback works, right?

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Gav:

playback works yeah

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Gav:

I did a scan and got a channels.conf file

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sphery:

and the dma error is at the end of scan, right?

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Gav:

Hmmm, try a scan again and watch dmesg

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sphery:

if so, I'd assume that MythTV uses some (broken) driver functionality that's not used by *zap's scan

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Gav:

Aaaah okay, that sounds plausible

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Gav:

hmmmmm, I'll have to searching for a solution I guess tho

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Gav:

All because the wife wanted LiveTV in xbmc :)

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sphery:

you should convince the wife to want mythfrontend, not XBMC

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Gav:

Nah, I like XBMC and just the UI of it

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sphery:

since with mythfrontend, you get full functionality

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sphery:

and XBMC could easily trash your whole db

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Gav:

The mo, I had to jump in the loft as it was to get an old cable box out so she could watch telly

[15:05:39]

Gav:

If I cant even get the backend working smoothly, neither XBMC/myth will matter as I'll be forced to go back to mediaportal

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sphery:

I'm assuming the STB is until you can get the DVB-S working, right, since you can't do DVB-S with an STB

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Gav:

yeah, it is the old solution....

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sphery:

ok, just making sure :)

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Gav:

DVB-C cable box :)

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Gav:

I've got a sat dish on the side of house for this setup

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Gav:

I daren't touch the working stuff :)

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Gav:

szap is working nicely, dvbtraffic is seeing something and I'm not getting any errors in /var/log/dmesg

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Gav:

Yes, it does thru the unsupported value in .mpeg error when it finishes szap

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Gav:

thru=throw

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Gav:

Okay, just installing the latest v4l drivers

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stuartm:

Beirdo: late in the day for a change, but one of the cleanest ways to ensure that mythweather has proper support for _any_ encoding that a grabber might chose is to change it to use xml with proper lang declarations – QT's xml parser will automatically do the right thing under those conditions

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xand:

hjhjhjjh/win 24

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xand:

argh

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matmatmat:

at least it has regexp in it

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Beirdo:

OK

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Beirdo:

stuartm: well, it needs to be able to support UTF-8 for scrapers for non-English areas :)

[15:58:21]

Beirdo:

so I guess I just bit off another chunk?

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Beirdo:

crud

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stuartm:

well it can easily be adjusted to support UTF-8, but only UTF-8 – the way it's implemented now

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Beirdo:

that might be a good start

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Gav:

I'm going to call it quits for now... this issue is a show stopper :(

[16:03:02]

Beirdo:

but I agree that reworking them to return XML might be a better overall goal

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stuartm:

honestly I didn't know until now that it wasn't UTF-8 friendly, I'd assume that Joe had accounted for that

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Beirdo:

I'm not sure it isn't... I'm asking, actually, but if it isn't, it needs to be.

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stuartm:

I'll check in a few minutes

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Beirdo:

thanks :) I'm trying to kick this wunderground scraper into behaving

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Gav:

Anybody else have any solutions for ... cx8802_start_dma() Failed. Unsupported value in .mpeg

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[Peter]:

Gav: I get that from time to time but I don't think it harms anything

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Gav:

it's stopping me from scanning on mythtv-setup :(

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Gav:

mplayer dvb://blah works, szap works, but just not able to run mythtv

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Gav:

Either that or I have missed an obvious step

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[Peter]:

Gav: did you set up the diseqc stuff?

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Gav:

Yup, that is set for LNB

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[Peter]:

Gav: Have you verified it's still there? because if you don't hit next all the way through on the level above the diseqc config it will forget about it

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[Peter]:

that took me 2 hours to find at one time :)

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Gav:

Just clicked on it again to check it's there

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Gav:

Any other ways of confirming?

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[Peter]:

if it shows up it should be there

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Gav:

Okay, I'll walk thru it.. option 1 -> capture cards -> DVB DTV -> click diseqc -> and I see LNB

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[Peter]:

well, then it's ok

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Gav:

Aaah wait!!!

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Gav:

Now it is blooming scanning....

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Gav:

Guess it might have needed that kick again

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Gav:

I've spent 3 hours trying to solve this :)

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slickrick:

is coverart working in mythweb 0.22 for videos? i have symlinked my data/covers directory to my jamu covers by mythweb shows "cover missing" for all the covers.

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slickrick:

^^^ sorry. data/video_covers

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sphery:

you mean in MythWeb?

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slickrick:

yes.

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sphery:

no idea

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slickrick:

dang ... before it just worked after being symlinked.

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sphery:

oh, I suppose I should have known you meant MythWeb since you said, "is coverart working in mythweb 0.22 for videos"

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sphery:

TTBOMK, it doesn't work in 0.22-fixes if you have video storage groups configured

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sphery:

IIRC, it (mostly) does in 0.23-fixes

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sphery:

good reason to upgrade today?

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slickrick:

okay, not using storage groups.

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sphery:

might not work in 0.22-fixes without storage groups, either

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sphery:

what distro?

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slickrick:

gah .. have done so much upgrading of stuff in the past day ....

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slickrick:

ubuntu 9.10

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sphery:

Then I'd recommend switching to 0.23

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stuartm:

Beirdo: untested, but I think the following should force UTF8 even if the user's locale is something else, e.g. Latin1 – http://pastebin.mandriva.com/17660

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Beirdo:

oooh, yay

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Beirdo:

hey, freenode... get better server code ;)

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Beirdo:

wow

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Beirdo:

there are a lot of towns named Moscow in the US

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Beirdo:

commies!

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Beirdo:

oh for Gods sakes

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stuartm:

Beirdo: maybe someone can find a suitable icon for hazy which matches the exist style, may even one in that collection

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stuartm:

apologies for the missing 'ing', my typing has been affected by the bandaging on the finger I attempted to amputate earlier ;)

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Beirdo:

eek

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Beirdo:

stuartm: yeah, for now, I'm mapping it to fog, which isn't quite right :)

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stuartm:

http://pastebin.mandriva.com/17661

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stuartm:

Beirdo: ^^

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[Peter]:

wtf is up with freenode today?

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Beirdo:

stuartm: lookin good, thanks

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Beirdo:

I'll have to try it out soon

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Beirdo:

this network is the pits

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Beirdo:

stop netsplitting, you oinking network!

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wagnerrp:

[Peter]: look what happens whan you ask such things

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[Peter]:

sorry :)

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Beirdo:

wagnerrp: got another weather scraper for 3/6 day :)

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Beirdo:

!trout freenode crappy network

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** MythLogBot slaps freenode with a crappy network trout on behalf of Beirdo... **

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wagnerrp:

why did someone post a ticket to trac with their updates to be made to the wiki?

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Beirdo:

wagnerrp: mental retardation, I think

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stuartm:

wagnerrp: silly question, you've been around here long enough to know the answer to that

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** wagnerrp laughs at [Peter] **

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Beirdo:

omg

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wagnerrp:

well he created an account an hour ago

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wagnerrp:

lets see what happens

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Beirdo:

I'll probably go update it later anyways

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Beirdo:

heh

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wagnerrp:

i think ill put in the required types now

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Beirdo:

we know for sure what we need to get the 3day and 6day working :)

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Beirdo:

I modified the output of yr.no scraper to use --- for lows

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Beirdo:

see if that looks OK, and all :)

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Beirdo:

but I'll have to update it on my webspace there

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stuartm:

Beirdo: better to output a blank and have the theme deal with it as appropriate, themers get the opportunity to do their own thing for empty strings, whether that's specify a default or even to not display a label for those

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Beirdo:

stuartm: OK. it's data I can't get from the source. blank works too

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Beirdo:

as long as mythweather doesn't toss the whole screen, all is good

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stuartm:

if you include it in the output without a value you should be fine

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Beirdo:

OK :)

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Beirdo:

there's a change I need to make to the schema for mythweather

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Beirdo:

64 characters ain't long enough for the location, as yr.no can only use a format that can be longer

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Beirdo:

simple change, but I'll have to determine the way of setting up for a db upgrade for the plugin :)

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Beirdo:

shouldn't be too hard

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stuartm:

64 seems mean, I'd always allocate at least 128 for short string columns

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stuartm:

Beirdo: dbcheck.cpp

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Beirdo:

yeah, I was thinking of bumping it to 128

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Beirdo:

yup :)

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Beirdo:

I was concentrating on the scripts to start, but I think it's time to look at the related patch

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Beirdo:

your UTF-8 patch (once tested) should do well

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wagnerrp:

what am i doing manually duplicating this weather-screens.xml

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Beirdo:

hehe

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Beirdo:

I dunno

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wagnerrp:

go go gadget python

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Beirdo:

I want to add copyright to each page still :)

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stuartm:

Beirdo: should be a field for that, or does it only apply to some screens and not others?

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wagnerrp:

Beirdo: the tmp directory only seems to be provided for data grabs, not searches?

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stuartm:

BBC grabber required it, so I know it's there for at least the Current and 3 day

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Beirdo:

there is a field for copyright, but currently it's only shown on the current conditions screen

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Beirdo:

wagnerrp: correct.

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wagnerrp:

should apply to all screens

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stuartm:

huh, used to be there in the 3 day, that looks like a regression

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Beirdo:

wagnerrp: I totally agree

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wagnerrp:

IMO, that should be an optional parameter returned by -v, and just filled in everywhere

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wagnerrp:

i mean thats not likely to be transient data is it?

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Beirdo:

I would think not, but who knows? :)

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Beirdo:

Gav_: your name better not be Gavin... :) There's only room for one Gavin :)

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Beirdo:

muhahaha

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Beirdo:

jeez, some people are stupid

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wagnerrp:

?

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Beirdo:

oh, the moron in the mailing list telling me that yr.no is not allowed outside of Norway... totally misquoting the page he linked

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wagnerrp:

why would they provide weather data for outside of norway... if not allowing people to use it?

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Beirdo:

exactly

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Beirdo:

they specifically say that they will not provide the ToS in English, but you need someone to translate it

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Beirdo:

we did that

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jamesd__:

the weather in norway is top secret, if it got out it could cause a 25% drop in tourism ;-)

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Beirdo:

and the ToS do NOT say not to use it outside Norway. They just don't promote it as they are worried about load

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Beirdo:

and if at some point they change the ToS, then fine... we adjust

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sphery:

Beirdo: so you don't think he speaks Norwegian and translated the actual ToS differently? :)

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sphery:

s/translated/interpreted/

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Beirdo:

doubt it

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Beirdo:

he's from NL

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sphery:

yeah, I don't think he does

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Beirdo:

and we had several people here from NO translate it

[17:35:53]

** wagnerrp thinks he does **

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wagnerrp:

does mythvideo now automatically go off the language you define in setup?

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sphery:

Oh, if he does, then maybe he knows something the English page doesn't say

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Beirdo:

then he should link to it, and we can get others to translate it for us

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wagnerrp:

and knows more norwegian than the other norwegians

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iamlindoro:

wagnerrp, it uses the FE langauge-- but all of our grabbers concat the requested language and the "default" language together

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iamlindoro:

ie if you ask for -l fr, you get french results and the default results, english

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iamlindoro:

but yeah, if you want to force what's passed to the -l flag in MV, you have to change the FE language

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wagnerrp:

i know the -l was mandatory

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wagnerrp:

just wonder where it got the language

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sphery:

It looks like http://go.nrk.no/go/e/unknown;siteId=225/http . . . ta/1.3321307 is the real ToS

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Beirdo:

yup

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sphery:

that being the link in "Please read the requirements for free use of our data thoroughly"

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sphery:

but it's all Greek to me...

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sphery:

or maybe Norwegian.

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Beirdo:

heh

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Beirdo:

google translate it

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Beirdo:

it will be a Norwegian version of Engrish, but you can clearly see there are no country limitations

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Beirdo:

past not using radar data from Scandinavia, and I'm not using radar at all

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Beirdo:

I'm using the XML

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stevi:

Hello, I need some help: I installed Mythbuntu 10.04 beta and tried to restore my database backup. I have been able to restore everything but when I start mythfrontend I get: Could not connect to the master-backend. Is it running?

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sphery:

According to my local networks, weather information without a 10M Watt RADAR is useless. :)

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Beirdo:

hehe

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sphery:

stevi: please post the full startup logs in http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/

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wagnerrp:

thats a big radar

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wagnerrp:

i dont know what you would do with a 10MW radar

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wagnerrp:

thats considerably more powerful than most military installations

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Beirdo:

track mosquito flights

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Beirdo:

if you don't fry em in the process

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stevi:

sphery: http://mythtv.pastebin.com/W9wMe8w7

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sphery:

wagnerrp: yeah, in truth, it's only a 1MW radar: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WOFL ("The Guardian")

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stevi:

mythbackend.log

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wagnerrp:

did they claim it was 10MW? or was that you exaggerating?

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Beirdo:

1GW :)

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sphery:

stevi: you've changed hostnames/ip addresses

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sphery:

stevi: so your master backend doesn't know it's a master backend

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sphery:

funny thing is that I was goind to say that I needed the frontend log to tell you why the frontend won't connect to the backend...

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sphery:

but since the backend log shows that your backend doesn't know it's a master backend, it had the info we needed :)

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sphery:

wagnerrp: so, I guess that explains why the Fox weather guy has started to grow a 6th finger on his right hand...

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Beirdo:

hehe

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Beirdo:

that's so he doesn't have a middle finger

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sphery:

heh--to prevent those accidental on-screen gestures

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sphery:

now that's dedication

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Beirdo:

hehe

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Beirdo:

Go, Fox :)

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sphery:

stevi: did you change hostname when you upgraded?

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sphery:

if so, you need to fix a bunch of stuff

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stevi:

ah, okay. so do i only need to change the hostname in the backend setup?

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stevi:

i did not upgrade. i reinstalled.

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stevi:

i deleted my 9.10 partition and installed 10.04 beta in the same partition while /home stayed the same on another partition

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sphery:

is the hostname the same or different?

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wagnerrp:

hah! the nwsxml.pl is programmed for lysdexics

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stevi:

mhh, i don't really know. the only hostname i saw was localhost

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wagnerrp:

KCVG and CKVG return the same response

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Beirdo:

??

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Beirdo:

interesting

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wagnerrp:

im sure its not the grabber itself, but rather just the data service

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sphery:

stevi: and you have only one MythTV host (i.e. no remote backends or frontends)?

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stevi:

i only have one machine with backend/frontend combination

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sphery:

and no other machines running any backend or frontend processes?

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wagnerrp:

so this guy has taken two hours to <pre> a generic block of text into that page?

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wagnerrp:

a completely unnecessary generic block at that?

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stevi:

no other machines with backend or frontend. I had another frontend a few month ago. does this matter?

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Beirdo:

wagnerrp: figures

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wagnerrp:

i mean you follow the format, who cares the flow that mythweather calls them

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sphery:

stevi: if you have ever had any remote hosts, you can't use localhost anywhere in the config

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Beirdo:

it can be useful to know, but if you really need to know, use the source

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sphery:

so when mythbackend prompted you for the hostname, you have to pu in myth-desktop

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sphery:

stevi: I recommend shutting down mythbackend and restarting it with mythbackend -p

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sphery:

it will prompt for the name/host info again

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sphery:

or, if upstart gets in the way, just use mythtv-setup to change it

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sphery:

in General settings

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stevi:

ok, and what is the right hostname? localhost or the one i probably used in mythbuntu 9.10?

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iamlindoro:

Ha... hahah

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iamlindoro:

SD censored an episode title

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Beirdo:

oh?

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iamlindoro:

"Whore" became "W..."

[18:00:23]

Beirdo:

but w..?

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iamlindoro:

not even a profane word, strictly speaking

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stevi:

sphery: thank you very much. I changed the ip adress and everything seems to be working again. great. thanks again!

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sphery:

stevi: great

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sphery:

stevi: you really don't want localhost in the config, though

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sphery:

but fixing that may be a challenge, now, depending on how you've run things in the past

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stevi:

i changed it to something like 192.178.178.X. i will now try to fix my tv-cards an see how things are going

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wagnerrp:

eew...

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wagnerrp:

external IPs

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[Peter]:

He probably meant 168

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stevi:

should i not use this ip adress?

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wagnerrp:

192.168 is an RFC1918 private address range

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wagnerrp:

i dont know where 192.178 is allocated for

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stevi:

what's the problem with this?

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wagnerrp:

is your machine's address actually 192.178?

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wagnerrp:

.whatever.whatever

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sphery:

and if so, is it pulling its IP directly from a cable/DSL modem or whatever?

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stevi:

no 192.168.x.x

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sphery:

ah, that's better

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wagnerrp:

looks like 192.178 is registered to sweden

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Beirdo:

bork bork bork

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Beirdo:

hehe

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stevi:

but mine is 178 not sweden

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stevi:

i mean 168

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wagnerrp:

basically... 192.178 is an internet address, rather than a private network address

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wagnerrp:

and probably not what you want to have your backend listen on

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wagnerrp:

but since you mistyped, its a moot point

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Beirdo:

hehe

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stevi:

a, ok. now i get it.

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Beirdo:

well, I'm off for a it, see y'all on the flip side

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Beirdo:

a bit rather

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stevi:

i'm also off. thx again for your help!

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sphery:

Any MacOS X users around?

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sphery:

if so, I'd love to have you check a header for me

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sphery:

(with a simple grep)

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sphery:

grep '$set\|init$groups' /usr/include/grp.h

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sphery:

nvm...

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sphery:

figured out since Mac OS is BSD-based, it's likely it supports a non-POSIX, BSD function (and the initgroups manpage on developer.apple.com lends further credence to that theory)

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ikevin:

hi

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ikevin:

anyone know how can i play MP4V-ES video (AMR audio) stream on myth's livetv?

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wagnerrp:

is it actually content youre pulling in through a capture card?

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ikevin:

nop, directly from an rtsp stream

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ikevin:

i've error:

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ikevin:

2010-03–28 21:03:36.125 IPTVFeedRTSP:Failed to setup: audio AMR : SETUP: cannot handle response: RTSP/1.0 415 Unsupported Media Type

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ikevin:

2010-03–28 21:03:36.138 IPTVFeedRTSP:Failed to setup: video MP4V-ES : Failed to read response: Succès

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wagnerrp:

if its a supported capture device (including the virtual IPTV 'card'), it should just work

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wagnerrp:

assuming mythtv supports that format

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ikevin:

so ffmpeg can read the stream (i play it on vlc)

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wagnerrp:

what version of mythtv?

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ikevin:

0.22

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wagnerrp:

try updating to 0.23rc, it has a several month more recent sync of ffmpeg

[19:10:53]

wagnerrp:

that may have better success

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wagnerrp:

if not, submit a ticket, and if possible a sample of video

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iamlindoro:

that's not a decode issue

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iamlindoro:

it's a IPTV recorder issue, and means your service isn't supported

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iamlindoro:

you are welcome to improve the IPTV recorder to support your service, however

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ikevin:

how can i do that?

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iamlindoro:

become familiar with the IPTV code, and make any modifications to support your IPTV service, then submit a patch

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ikevin:

and IPTV recorder are hardware card?

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wagnerrp:

no

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wagnerrp:

virtual

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ikevin:

ok

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wagnerrp:

all done in software

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wagnerrp:

it just behaves like a capture card in mythtv, since thats what mythtv was designed to use

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ikevin:

ok, it's the thing dev only for the isp free?

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iamlindoro:

It was written for the Free.fr service, and anything that works beyond that is chance

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wagnerrp:

if you want to see if myth can handle the actual video

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wagnerrp:

capture a chunk with VLC

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wagnerrp:

and try playing it with 'mythavtest <filename>'

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ikevin:

i try

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ikevin:

mmm, vlc still recode the video :/

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wagnerrp:

im sure theres a 'copy' output of some sort

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ikevin:

yep, found using a command line

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ikevin:

the video can be played using mythavtest

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ikevin:

can't i load an m3u who containt webtv on the video module of myth?

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wagnerrp:

then as iamlindoro said, its just a problem with the IPTV 'card' not supporting your particular blend of RTSP

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iamlindoro:

the IPTV recorder isn't meant to service "webtv"

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iamlindoro:

it's meant for actual broadcast provider IPTV

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iamlindoro:

meaning actual broadcast channels provided by a cable/TV provider within their broadcast domain

[19:24:28]

ikevin:

i think a need to recode a part of myth to get it working?

[19:25:00]

ikevin:

(it's a normal rtsp stream, i think that free's stream who are specials)

[19:25:26]

iamlindoro:

again, the IPTV recorder isn't just a generic RTSP player

[19:25:34]

iamlindoro:

the IPTV recorder is for actual IPTV services

[19:26:17]

wagnerrp:

ikevin: mythtv works just fine with VLC's RTSP server

[19:27:16]

ikevin:

it's a vlc rtsp server ...

[19:27:37]

wagnerrp:

your VLC rtsp server?

[19:28:38]

ikevin:

nop, external, i make a try to relay it with a local vlc server

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Wicked:

hmm...in the video options...i see you can mark a video as watched...but where do i see if the video has indeed been watched?

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iamlindoro:

By filtering by watched, or using a theme that shows watched/unwatched visually

[19:30:35]

Wicked:

ah i see. is there any themes that do show watched/unwatched?

[19:30:47]

wagnerrp:

looking at Arclight, i can say it does

[19:30:57]

Wicked:

im horrible at keeping track of what was the last episode i watched

[19:31:10]

Wicked:

wagnerrp, oh really? lastnight i didnt see where it said that

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iamlindoro:

Think he means in MythVideo

[19:31:29]

Wicked:

yea

[19:31:30]

Wicked:

i do

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Wicked:

btw i like arclight :)

[19:32:02]

Wicked:

iamlindoro...thats yours right?

[19:32:06]

iamlindoro:

anyway, there might be some theme that shows it visually in MythVideo, but none that I know of

[19:32:07]

iamlindoro:

yes

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Wicked:

nice job

[19:32:24]

iamlindoro:

glad you like it

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Wicked:

:)

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wagnerrp:

apparently Batman is the only movie ive ever watched...

[19:33:00]

Wicked:

hehe

[19:33:09]

wagnerrp:

eew... segfault

[19:33:31]

wagnerrp:

and no core file

[19:33:43]

wagnerrp:

odd... ulimit is set to unlimited

[19:35:47]

wagnerrp:

nevermind, it wasnt

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wagnerrp:

well whatever it was, i cant repeat it

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dustybin:

holy lords, .23 is out

[19:41:21]

wagnerrp:

no, 0.23rc is out

[19:41:27]

dustybin:

ohh

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dustybin:

i will compile anyhow.. im at my parents so i can do it remotely :D

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ikevin:

wagnerrp, i've tryed to dump a part of the stream (who can be played using mythavtest), i've streamed it with my local vlc, mplayer can read the stream, so myth doesn't

[19:43:04]

dustybin:

actually i better read a .22 .23 upgrade guide

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wagnerrp:

theres not much of one needed

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wagnerrp:

no big database changes

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dustybin:

ace :D

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wagnerrp:

some new things, but the only thing that would likely break stuff is the new python bindings

[19:44:39]

** dustybin feels excited **

[19:44:52]

wagnerrp:

if youve got any old python scripts, those will likely have to be updated

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dustybin:

im going to updatedb and remove any sign of 'mythtv'

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sphery:

wagnerrp: so their DRM is done in Flash--not with some stupid Activex control or something Win only)

[20:11:07]

sphery:

if so, that's cool

[20:11:22]

sphery:

and I wish that Fox and CW and ... would do the same

[20:11:56]

wagnerrp:

no, their streams are now DRMd

[20:12:01]

wagnerrp:

they dont solely use flash

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sphery:

so what unDRM's it for Linux?

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wagnerrp:

nothing, they recently added DRM

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wagnerrp:

or at least activated it

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sphery:

ok, what unencrypts it for playback

[20:12:55]

sphery:

(not talking about stealing it)

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stuartm:

heh, 24 has been finally axed

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wagnerrp:

you mean besides the flash player?

[20:13:30]

sphery:

so the flash player is doing whatever it takes to play it?

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iamlindoro:

yeah

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sphery:

that's what I was saying would be cool in the US

[20:14:03]

sphery:

instead of the Win/Mac only solutions that a lot of networks have, now

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wagnerrp:

well we still cant use it over here anyway

[20:14:12]

wagnerrp:

due to the geolocation crap

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sphery:

right, but at least they did better for their citizens than our networks are doing

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wagnerrp:

does anyone have a Mac-only solution?

[20:16:09]

wagnerrp:

ive only ever seen Windows-or-bust

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sphery:

I don't know for sure that any work on Mac--I just assumed they'd have to

[20:18:45]

wagnerrp:

flash and silverlight are the only two player platforms i know of

[20:18:58]

wagnerrp:

flash works (poorly) everywhere, silverlight is windows-only

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iamlindoro:

windows + mac

[20:19:20]

wagnerrp:

oh? i thought mac users had to use moonlinght

[20:19:31]

iamlindoro:

There's an official Safari plugin

[20:19:40]

iamlindoro:

(I watched a bit of the olympic hockey series that way)

[20:19:43]

wagnerrp:

i take that back then

[20:20:46]

sphery:

but don't a lot of them have outside-the-player-browser-plugin garbage that's platform specific and involved in getting the info/stream/whatever that the player needs?

[20:21:02]

sphery:

I know some of the Windows ones use Activex controls

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iamlindoro:

I can only speak to my experience with one (maybe two?) sites, it worked, but what you say might well be the case

[20:22:52]

stuartm:

just be glad that the realplayer plugin is near enough dead

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wagnerrp:

we dont need no water, let the m-f- burn

[20:24:02]

sphery:

huh, looks like Fox works, now

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** wagnerrp thinks we need a language exception for the Bloodhound Gang **

[20:25:13]

** sphery wonders what http://www.cwtv.com/cw-video/supernatural is doing **

[20:25:44]

sphery:

"We're sorry, but only the following operating systems are supported at this time: * Windows XP or Vista * Mac OS X 10.3 or greater"

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wagnerrp:

Move player

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sphery:

ah, so that's different?

[20:26:19]

sphery:

not a flash thing

[20:26:49]

wagnerrp:

its still On7, but its some other player, yes

[20:27:00]

wagnerrp:

erm... VP7 (from On2)

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stuartm:

you mean google

[20:27:57]

sphery:

whatever it is, it got me to pay $2 to buy an episode of Supernatural that I missed in the OTA-channel-moving-before-the-digital-changeover (because I didn't want to wait for the summer repeats)

[20:27:58]

wagnerrp:

thats right, google did buy them a couple months back

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stuartm:

and speculation is that Google only bought them in order to waive the patents and make it the only patent free codec for HTML 5

[20:29:25]

sphery:

I really should have gone outside to do some yard work rather than working on Myth today

[20:29:44]

sphery:

guess I have time for a bit of it before dark

[20:30:07]

wagnerrp:

youve got like 4 hours

[20:30:25]

dustybin:

before i started compiling .23, i did: apt-get build-dep mytthv, however, i still got this problem: http://paste.debian.net/66322/plain/66322

[20:30:32]

dustybin:

*mythtv

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stuartm:

sphery: I did that, but promptly slice a finger open with a pruning saw ... which was pretty careless

[20:32:44]

sphery:

stuartm: hope that doesn't affect your ability to type... :)

[20:32:45]

stuartm:

not the first time I've done it either, that saw is razor sharp :(

[20:33:12]

stuartm:

sphery: it has, I'm even slower than usual ;)

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sphery:

wagnerrp: yeah, I guess it's the heavy overcast making it seem later than it is--plus may mean it's the rain, and not the dark, that I have to beat

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sphery:

stuartm: guess we'll just have to lower your quota down to 10x-the-code-output-of-an-expert-developer

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sphery:

temporarily, of course

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stuartm:

!salmon sphery frozen

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** MythLogBot connects with the head of sphery with a frozen salmon on behalf of stuartm... **

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iamlindoro:

Don't worry, given where the bar is set for expertise around here, that's still astonishingly low ;)

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Beirdo:

clunk

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Kunalagon:

I installed some 0.23_alpha22857 version of mythtv from Gentoo repository, and it seems there is still broken analog channel tv scan??

[20:48:37]

wagnerrp:

thats because that version is from way way back in december

[20:48:46]

wagnerrp:

the analog scan fix only went in a couple weeks ago

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Kunalagon:

Oh, thanks I lot, I am so happy to hear that. And when 0.23 version should be released?

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iamlindoro:

Most likely at some point in April

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oobe:

but the fixes branch is already out

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iamlindoro:

Correct

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wagnerrp:

its branched, it is not yet tagged and released

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oobe:

so Kunalagon you could use that and you wont have to worry about upgrades when it does come out

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iamlindoro:

the branch precedes the tag of the release

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oobe:

yes im not confused its just a suggestion

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iamlindoro:

he's not using ubuntu, so there's no concept of needing to track a particular branch

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iamlindoro:

he'd still have to compile and install regardless, so there's nothing less "to worry about"

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oobe:

yes but what about his schema

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iamlindoro:

What about it? We don't change schema while we're in feature freeze

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iamlindoro:

He's using trunk from four months ago, so it's moot regardless

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oobe:

oh ok

[20:57:44]

oobe:

i just noticed his package name

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oobe:

well i was just thinking if he upgrades to release-fixes-23 then he wont have to worry about upgrading later on

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oobe:

but if his schema is already the same then it is moot

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oobe:

as you put it

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cheriff:

hi, i have the db corruption (only Db charset us utf8: server, client and connection are all latin1, as i believe they should be?) but only it seems in the oldrecorded table. Is it safe to just trunc that, assuming im ok with possible dupe recordings going forward?

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wagnerrp:

are you upgrading from 0.21 to 0.22?

[21:05:02]

cheriff:

wagnerrp: yes

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wagnerrp:

running gentoo?

[21:05:13]

cheriff:

yep :(

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stuartm:

heh

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wagnerrp:

sphery: you have the link handy?

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iamlindoro:

he does, it's in his error log :)

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iamlindoro:

s/error//

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wagnerrp:

ah... forgot about that

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cheriff:

i've done the backup; drop; reconfig; restore process – which changed some of the utf8's in 'status', but not that last one, it seems

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cheriff:

i guess im just asking would it be safe to just nuke that one problematic table? my reading seems to indicate its only used to determine when not to re-record something already gotten, but am wary of leaving dangling crosslinks from other tables, or what have you. (sorry if my DB terminology isn't 100%)

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dustybin:

what dep is responsible for creating [libmythfreemheg-0.23.so.0.23.0] Error 1 ?

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wagnerrp:

libmythfreemheg is part of mythtv

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dustybin:

wagnerrp: does libmythfreemheg require deps for it to be compiled?

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iamlindoro:

everything in myth has dependencies. Many of them.

[21:16:30]

wagnerrp:

it would help to have an actual error message

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iamlindoro:

/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lGL

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iamlindoro:

missing/broken GL libs

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dustybin:

http://paste.debian.net/66326/plain/66326

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wagnerrp:

yeah, you need to figure out why you have no opengl libraries

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dustybin:

i will apt-get install all the binaries and dev i can find

[21:18:39]

wagnerrp:

or you could just do so for the open gl libraries

[21:18:46]

wagnerrp:

or if you have an nvidia card, the nvidia drivers

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dustybin:

the nvidia libs worked, thanks, i'm sure i have done this before..

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dustybin:

these are my blue-prints for future backend / server box, this will be a beast :D

[21:29:35]

dustybin:

http://paste.debian.net/66330/plain/66330

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dustybin:

(a low powered beast!)

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wagnerrp:

why are you buying a Xeon?

[21:31:35]

dustybin:

wagnerrp: i would like to use a quadcore in my server because of virtual machines

[21:31:50]

dustybin:

it was a toss between intel i5 750 v intel xeon 3440

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iamlindoro:

Another horrible idea

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wagnerrp:

so you went with the rebranded, slower, and more expensive model?

[21:32:19]

wagnerrp:

good choice!

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dustybin:

the xeon has HT, the i5 750 doesnt

[21:33:00]

dustybin:

the xeon is only a few pounds more in UK

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Kunalagon:

I done this : svn co http://svn.mythtv.org/svn/branches/release-0-23-fixes/ mythtv-0–23 , now...how to compile?

[21:33:30]

wagnerrp:

its a good 25% more on newegg

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wagnerrp:

Kunalagon: standard process... configude; make; make install

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iamlindoro:

Legendary gentoo compile expertise

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Kunalagon:

wagnerrp: yes, but I have couple of folders in mythtv-0–23, should I enter to mytthv or some other?

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bjd:

:)

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Kunalagon:

maybe, it is better I go to sleep

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stuartm:

cd mythtv;./configure;make;sudo make install

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wagnerrp:

sudo?

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wagnerrp:

in here we use our root accounts, mister

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** iamlindoro feels like ./configure --help should be a requirement **

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iamlindoro:

then there's nobody to blame but oneself when it doesn't work right

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wagnerrp:

the userbase doesnt want to fish

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Beirdo:

oooh, iamlindoro is volunteering to put help in configure?

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Beirdo:

heh

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iamlindoro:

Beirdo, configure already has good help :)

[22:11:10]

Beirdo:

shhh

[22:11:14]

Beirdo:

let me be silly :)

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iamlindoro:

heh

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jamesd__:

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wagnerrp:

wow

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Beirdo:

jamesd__: funny how the blue light rarely goes offf

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wagnerrp:

Beirdo: your bot failed hard on that one

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Beirdo:

hmm?

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wagnerrp:

check the logs

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jamesd__:

Beirdo, must of taken him several weeks to test it properly ;-)

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Beirdo:

hehe.

[22:13:41]

Beirdo:

nice

[22:14:05]

Beirdo:

wonder what it did there...

[22:14:23]

Beirdo:

it's likely a web frontend issue rather than the logging part though

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Beirdo:

OK, took screen shots of my putty and chrome windows... I'll look into it later :)

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wagnerrp:

test

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wagnerrp:

http://test.com/

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wagnerrp:

http://test.com/ <-- some text here

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wagnerrp:

funky...

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Beirdo:

yeah

[22:17:40]

** Beirdo shrugs **

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Beirdo:

dunno off hand, but the ' in the conversation came in as a reverse R on my IRC screen

[22:19:02]

Beirdo:

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Beirdo:

blahblah

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Beirdo:

beats me right now

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Beirdo:

but I have it captured to look at later :)

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stuartm:

huh? What are you two talking about?

[22:21:14]

wagnerrp:

check beirdo's logs

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wagnerrp:

jamesd__'s comment shows up as blank

[22:22:06]

Beirdo:

anyways, I feel the need fore more caffeine... and some food

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Beirdo:

and there's no Starbucks near here

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Beirdo:

now THERE's a problem I won't have soon :)

[22:23:01]

Beirdo:

won't be able to throw a proverbial cat without hitting several Starbucks soon.

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stuartm:

interesting

[22:23:15]

Beirdo:

ahhh, Seattle.

[22:23:16]

Beirdo:

hehe

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stuartm:

foo

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stuartm:

just testing the interplay of two of those characters, which don't render here fwiw

[22:24:45]

cheriff:

JEDIDIAH__: my problem was that I let 0.21 record some shows after running the 'de-corrupt' procedure, so the latter shows had pesky (c) symbols in their description

[22:25:07]

cheriff:

(nick complete fail, sorry)

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stuartm:

that's just a reminder that you shouldn't be uploading the recordings to youtube or torrenting them

[22:26:15]

Beirdo:

6 more work days... then I am liberated of my current employer. YAY

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cheriff:

i *think* i managed to fix it by running the text conversion commants mythtv-setup does, by hand and noting which rows were causing grief, and manually editing the descripton of afflicted rows in the backup, then restoring

[22:27:01]

cheriff:

mythtv-setup have updated the schema and am at the main setup screen now

[22:27:31]

Beirdo:

Hmm, I could go for some Hungarian Goulash and a pint of beer

[22:27:44]

Beirdo:

too bad I'd probably have to fly to Europe to get it

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cheriff:

(actually, the (c) was applied expressly to the guide data (from ota EPG) to stop scrapers, I presume)

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stuartm:

heh

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Beirdo:

hmmm, seems that line is in the db at least :)

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Beirdo:

we are almost hitting 4M rows, BTW

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Beirdo:

3,937,457

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wagnerrp:

how long?

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Beirdo:

since 2003 or so

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Beirdo:

1112314500

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Beirdo:

epoch time :)

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Beirdo:

back in the days when I used PircBot

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Beirdo:

I imported all its logs

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stuartm:

guess I better start spamming if I'm going to grab that 4 millionth line

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Beirdo:

hehe

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wagnerrp:

thats just under 5 years

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Beirdo:

it was 2005?

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Beirdo:

I don't remember

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Beirdo:

heh

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wagnerrp:

three days and 40 minutes away

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Beirdo:

nice

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wagnerrp:

Thu Mar 32 19:15:00 2005

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wagnerrp:

31

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Beirdo:

hehe

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Beirdo:

Mar 32.. I like

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Beirdo:

that was the first record, I think it was the earliest

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Beirdo:

be funny to see who's the most foul-mouthed over time

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Beirdo:

doubt it will be me as I lurked for almost 3yrs in there :)

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wagnerrp:

you should plot it

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wagnerrp:

daily occurance

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Beirdo:

heh

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Beirdo:

the BLEEP-o-meter?

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Beirdo:

hehe

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wagnerrp:

actually, someone had an IRC stats page up somewhere

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wagnerrp:

dont recall the link

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Beirdo:

yeah

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iamlindoro:

jmeyer.us/stats

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wagnerrp:

thats the one

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Beirdo:

my plan is to put similar capabilities into the bot

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wagnerrp:

4.3 years, almost as long as yours

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Beirdo:

yup :)

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Beirdo:

two geeks think alike I guess

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Beirdo:

what to do...

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Beirdo:

6:45... I'm hungru and no food to eat...and don't feel likel going out

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Beirdo:

and obviously can't type tonight

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Beirdo:

:)

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jolaren:

I'm gettin crazy! I have two dvb-t cards.. one hauppage wintv nova-t 500 and one hauppauge wintv nova-td 500.. my dmesg is filled with mt2060 I2C read failed

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jolaren:

I want to disable rc_polling on only one of the cards

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jolaren:

the -t 500 that is

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stuartm:

unless they use different drivers you can't

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jolaren:

cry.. ;/

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jolaren:

I think perhaps they are, can I check somehow? I rerolled to 1.10 instead of 1.2

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iamlindoro:

kormoc, Would it be a imposition to ask you to turn off voting (or at least stop counting results) at midnightish tonight?

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Beirdo:

heh.

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Beirdo:

there's something to to

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Beirdo:

do rather

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Beirdo:

try to resurrect this busted X config

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Beirdo:

hmm

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sid3windr:

jolaren: 1.10 is newer than 1.2

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sid3windr:

[usually]

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jmk-mcfaul:

I just emailed the list, but I figured it can't hurt to ask here... anybody ever had a tuner card cause lost network packets?

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jmk-mcfaul:

as soon as I install my new Hauppauge 2250 tuner, I get 5–15% lost packets on ethernet

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jolaren:

sid3windr, was a type-o

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jolaren:

sid3windr, ofc i meant 1.20

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sid3windr:

jmk-mcfaul: sounds like irq problems

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jmk-mcfaul:

lspci says that the tuner and the nic both have their own IRQs

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jmk-mcfaul:

tuner is on 11, nic is 28

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wagnerrp:

sid3windr: i didnt think you could have IRQ problems with PCIe

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jmk-mcfaul:

when both are installed, tuner is at 02:00.0, nic is at 03:00.0... When I remove the tuner, the nic winds up at 02:00.0

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jmk-mcfaul:

this is indeed PCIe

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sid3windr:

wagnerrp: you can't?

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jmk-mcfaul:

I have 2 1xPCIe slots, tried the tuner in both, exact same results

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sid3windr:

I haven't really looked much at this newfangled stuff ;)

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wagnerrp:

sid3windr: i assumed not, considering it was no longer a shared bus

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sid3windr:

mmmgoodpoint

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jmk-mcfaul:

apparently some interrupts can still be shared

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jmk-mcfaul:

lspci -vvvv | grep Interrupt shows more than one thing routed to a couple IRQs

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jmk-mcfaul:

but the tuner and nic both have their own

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iamlindoro:

Wow, this is considered a *bug* at Mythbuntu: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+bug/302919

[23:37:16]

iamlindoro:

My hardware doesn't have a driver! This is bug, yes?

[23:37:42]

iamlindoro:

for great justice, read the comments

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iamlindoro:

"I think project lcdproc is in awful state :("

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iamlindoro:

"I join this request."

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iamlindoro:

I would lock the HELL out of that thing!

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awalls:

It's at "wishlist" level of importance...

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iamlindoro:

error: invalid importance ;)

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awalls:

Is the bug reporting system doubling as a feature request system

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awalls:

?

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iamlindoro:

seems so

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iamlindoro:

They are welcome to take them, we sure don't :)

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awalls:

sed 's/ENOTSUPP/EWISHLIST/g'

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iamlindoro:

I do sometimes wish we had the ability to set custom close status

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iamlindoro:

Closed->DieInAFire, etc ;)

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awalls:

Closed->ShotInHead

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awalls:

"This bug affects 3 people" :)

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awalls:

*and* wishlist status. Closed->DOA

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