| Saturday, January 30th, 2010, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:37] | TauPan: | question: does mythtv have any idea about pal plus? |
| [00:00:52] | dherde: | OK thanks I guess I will start over. I did get it to compile, so I guess that is something.. Well, I will think about it later.. my girl needs me to go play pinochle.. |
| [00:01:36] | wagnerrp: | TauPan: mythtv supports the V4L and IVTV APIs |
| [00:01:36] | TauPan: | (because it just switched the screen format on me *before* the picture changed, which is typical if the guy in the station hits the button too early) |
| [00:01:49] | wagnerrp: | if your 'pal plus' tuner card supports one of those two, it will work with mythtv |
| [00:02:04] | TauPan: | I'm not actually sure my tuner card supports pal plus |
| [00:02:14] | TauPan: | wagnerrp: do you know what pal plus is? |
| [00:02:45] | dherde: | It appears that synaptic knows that I have 0.22. Do I need to make it forget that and revert back to 0.21? |
| [00:03:06] | wagnerrp: | looks like some 'enhanced resolution' analog |
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| [00:05:22] | TauPan: | yes... I honestly don't care about the enhanced resolution, although it's nice (but not remotely close to digital) |
| [00:05:47] | TauPan: | but a handy feature is that the tv gets a very simple signal that tells it about the aspect ratio of the picture |
| [00:08:43] | TauPan: | afaik myth can automatically detect those black stripes at the edge of the picture, which I enabled... but it just looked like the aspect ratio was switched *before* the actual picture changed |
| [00:09:02] | TauPan: | that would be typical for pal plus, that's why I wondered |
| [00:09:56] | TauPan: | (I'm watching analog tv over ivtv at the moment) |
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| [00:35:44] | grokky: | RDV_Linux, wagnerrp: thanks for changeset 23361 – works fine now. |
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| [00:44:00] | RDV_Linux: | grokky: Glad to hear that. |
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| [03:40:39] | UltimateMass: | I have a Dell system (GX270) with Mythbuntu 9.10 Installed. When I watch or play video, I cannot see any of the dialog text in the boxes that pop up. All I see is a transparent box with no text in it. Running on a 800 x600 res monitor.. |
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| [04:01:39] | wagnerrp: | did they just skip an entire episode of dollhouse? |
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| [04:02:29] | jayvee: | Okay, so this is the right channel. |
| [04:02:36] | jayvee: | Right, so my MythTV won't play any video. I killed my tv_grab_au script, and now my database appears to be screwed. Re-running the script doesn't repair it. |
| [04:02:43] | jayvee: | The error: EntryToProgram(0@Thu Jan 1 10:00:00 1970) failed to get pginfo |
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| [04:04:36] | jayvee: | Basically, how do I clear my tv guide data? |
| [04:04:45] | jayvee: | I don't want to willy-nilly truncate tables. |
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| [04:09:48] | ** cesman had seen that pginfo error a LONG time ago... ** | |
| [04:09:55] | cesman: | cannot remember any magic bullet |
| [04:10:15] | cesman: | if you db is jacked, then you need to check it for and repair any errors |
| [04:10:34] | cesman: | mysqlrepair or myismchk... |
| [04:10:52] | iamlindoro: | that error is generic |
| [04:11:03] | iamlindoro: | it just means "hey, stop reading frontend logs for what is a backend issue" |
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| [04:23:06] | jayvee: | cesman: it's not a mysql error — the mysql server didn't crash |
| [04:23:11] | jayvee: | the tv guide script did |
| [04:23:34] | jayvee: | iamlindoro: do you know how to go further into the backend? |
| [04:23:58] | jayvee: | ah, there's a /var/log/mythtv |
| [04:24:21] | jayvee: | DVBChan(1:/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0) Error: SetChannelByString(2089): CheckChannel failed. Please verify the channel in the 'mythtv-setup' Channel Editor. |
| [04:24:27] | jayvee: | TVRec(1) Error: Failed to set channel to 2089. Reverting to kState_None |
| [04:24:44] | jayvee: | "Reverting to kState_None" definitely describes the symptoms I'm getting |
| [04:24:55] | jayvee: | I press on "Watch TV", and then it throws me back to the main menu |
| [04:26:30] | jayvee: | I don't really comprehend the rest of the error though. |
| [04:26:49] | jayvee: | I'm looking at my channels list in mythtv-setup, and don't really know what to look for. Everything looks fine. |
| [04:28:05] | jayvee: | Aha, I think I fixed it — the "starting channel" in one of the pages was set to 2089 |
| [04:28:09] | jayvee: | and I don't have a channel 2089 |
| [04:28:17] | jayvee: | and never have, which is weird |
| [04:28:25] | jayvee: | filesystem corruption!? |
| [04:32:01] | jayvee: | well iamlindoro thanks for the backend pointer |
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| [04:41:01] | high-rez: | hmm. arclight is pretty but i'm not sure its quiteso functional |
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| [04:58:34] | BobLfoot: | any movement with getting the HVR-1800 Analog Tuner working for Mythtv? |
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| [05:18:19] | jac1d2: | I am having the dreaded length mismatch between programinfo problem where all my recordings have disappeared from the watch recordings screen |
| [05:18:40] | jac1d2: | I do not appear to have any 127 value bookmark or cutlist values in the recorded table. I can see my recordings from mythweb |
| [05:18:53] | jac1d2: | any suggestions on where to look to resolve this? it is driving me crazy after 3 hours of trying to find an answer on the mailing lists etc |
| [05:21:23] | wagnerrp: | this is in mythfrontend? |
| [05:21:29] | jac1d2: | yes |
| [05:21:45] | jac1d2: | wagnerrp: It is a new install of mythbuntu 9.10, about 3 weeks old |
| [05:22:02] | wagnerrp: | the only length mismatch i can think of is the ProgramInfo block coming from the backend |
| [05:22:27] | wagnerrp: | but you should never have a chance to hit that, because you should have been denied access to the backend do a mismatched rev |
| [05:22:37] | jac1d2: | wagnerrp: That is greek to me but I'm happy to do anything I can to get more info for diagnosis. |
| [05:23:07] | wagnerrp: | want to use whatever that mythbuntu auto-pastebin thing is? |
| [05:23:09] | jac1d2: | wagnerrp: This is the weird thing, it is a new install, I haven't upgraded from somwhere else of changed anything since installing it. Just all of a sudden it went walkabout today... worked fin earlier, the kids watched shows then bam, nothing |
| [05:23:50] | jac1d2: | wagnerrp: Not sure what auto pastebin you mean but I'll certainly do whatever you need. You want the front end output on fail? |
| [05:23:59] | wagnerrp: | i dont know what it is |
| [05:24:16] | wagnerrp: | i just see mythbuntu users with some pastebin pulled from half a dozen different files |
| [05:24:23] | wagnerrp: | they cant possibly be doing it on their own |
| [05:24:29] | wagnerrp: | so its some script that comes with mythbuntu |
| [05:25:01] | jac1d2: | ah,. no idea, I am new to mythbuntu, am more used to KnoppMyth |
| [05:25:58] | jac1d2: | http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/1771650 |
| [05:26:15] | jac1d2: | wagnerrp: That is the last few lines of the mythfrontend when I run it, go in and try and access the recordings |
| [05:27:14] | gbutters: | mythbuntuloggrabber |
| [05:27:46] | jac1d2: | gbutters: Just reading about that now |
| [05:30:49] | BinaryMan: | i came here ready to ask a plethora of questions. |
| [05:30:56] | jac1d2: | lets see if this works.... http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/f588a295e |
| [05:31:09] | BinaryMan: | right before i was about to ask my first question, i checked the version i was using |
| [05:31:27] | BinaryMan: | apparently, ubuntu hasn't updated jaunty's repo to use .22 |
| [05:31:45] | BinaryMan: | i find all this worth mentioning. |
| [05:32:53] | jac1d2: | wagnerrp: Any ideas how I find myself in this state? |
| [05:34:09] | wagnerrp: | are you using the release mythbuntu 9.10? or a recent copy? |
| [05:34:36] | jac1d2: | release |
| [05:34:54] | jac1d2: | wagnerrp: release |
| [05:34:58] | wagnerrp: | the release 9.10 came with a RC version of 0.22, not a final |
| [05:35:05] | wagnerrp: | you might want to try updating mythtv |
| [05:35:14] | jac1d2: | wagnerrp: oh jesus... really? |
| [05:35:26] | wagnerrp: | additionally, try running the frontend with '-v network,extra' |
| [05:35:35] | jac1d2: | wagnerrp: wouldn't that show up in the package manager if it was available? |
| [05:35:43] | wagnerrp: | your error *shouldnt* happen |
| [05:35:57] | wagnerrp: | since the official frontend should refuse to connect to the backend with such a mismatch |
| [05:36:18] | wagnerrp: | in which case it would produce a different error than what you saw |
| [05:37:09] | jac1d2: | wagnerrp: With that additional verbosity I do see the listings on the console but then it finished with: |
| [05:37:27] | jac1d2: | wagnerrp: 2010-01–29 21:36:00.236 SortedList is Empty |
| [05:37:27] | jac1d2: | 2010-01–29 21:36:01.656 MythSocket(8a921a0:20): write -> 20 41 QUERY_IS_ACTIVE_BACKEND[]:[]jac-mythbuntu |
| [05:37:27] | jac1d2: | 2010-01–29 21:36:01.657 MythSocket(8a921a0:20): read <- 20 4 TRUE |
| [05:37:27] | jac1d2: | 2010-01–29 21:36:01.661 Warning: container 'exit prompt' is missing child 'title' |
| [05:37:33] | wagnerrp: | please dont paste in here |
| [05:37:37] | wagnerrp: | pastebins only |
| [05:39:03] | jac1d2: | Sorry, here is the whole shooting match... it isn't failing to get data, it burps on something else... http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m4ddb6290 |
| [05:40:22] | wagnerrp: | that doesnt look quite right... |
| [05:43:48] | jac1d2: | wagnerrp: How so? |
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| [05:44:55] | wagnerrp: | well i was going to paste that into a terminal, and see if i could process it |
| [05:45:05] | wagnerrp: | although that seems to be taking a lot more than i had expected |
| [05:46:45] | jac1d2: | wagnerrp: a lot more time you mean? just hangs? |
| [05:46:45] | high-rez: | Hmmf |
| [05:47:07] | wagnerrp: | i mean i pasted it into the terminal 5 minutes ago, and it still pushing through the buffer |
| [05:47:23] | jac1d2: | whoa |
| [05:49:50] | jac1d2: | wagnerrp: is it some kind of buffer overflow issue? I only have 210 recordings, hardly a record number around hre I would think? |
| [05:50:02] | wagnerrp: | no, you have 224 recordings |
| [05:50:23] | wagnerrp: | however you only started on recording 217 when you lost the transfer |
| [05:50:36] | wagnerrp: | the length mismatch is because of a partial programinfo block |
| [05:51:46] | jac1d2: | wagnerrp: this is all new to me, but does that mean the conversation is being cut short by 7 recordings worth of programinfo ? |
| [05:52:23] | wagnerrp: | basically |
| [05:52:48] | wagnerrp: | i would update myth to 0.22-fixes, and see if youre still having the problem |
| [05:53:51] | jac1d2: | I guess I need to find out where that is packaged for mytbuntu |
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| [05:55:16] | wagnerrp: | could you paste your backend logs? |
| [05:56:14] | jac1d2: | They are on this pastebin already I think http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m4ddb6290 |
| [05:56:47] | wagnerrp: | thats the verbose frontend |
| [05:56:50] | Captain_Murdoch: | jac1d2, do you feel comfortable with SQL? |
| [05:57:00] | high-rez: | I'm losing audio when moving between sources |
| [05:57:23] | jac1d2: | Captain_Murdoch: Yes, sql is fine |
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| [05:57:52] | Captain_Murdoch: | can you run "select count(*) from recorded where bookmark > 127 or cutlist > 127;" |
| [05:57:53] | wagnerrp: | try 'select count(1) from recorded where bookmark > 1;' |
| [05:58:17] | Captain_Murdoch: | yeah, that's better. :) 127 was the bad value. :) |
| [05:58:28] | jac1d2: | wagnerrp: 0 |
| [05:58:28] | ** Captain_Murdoch didn't get enough sleep last night. ** | |
| [05:58:36] | Captain_Murdoch: | try cutlist |
| [05:59:11] | jac1d2: | wagnerrp: backend logs on this pastebin http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/f588a295e |
| [05:59:14] | jac1d2: | Captain_Murdoch: will do |
| [05:59:50] | jac1d2: | Captain_Murdoch: 0 on cutlist as well (I thought I had checked those as that was the only thing I could find before but my sql is rusty so best to have double checked) |
| [05:59:59] | high-rez: | man atsc has a ton of guide data. i always thought it was like a couple hours worth at most |
| [06:00:42] | wagnerrp: | nothing in the backend logs of any note |
| [06:00:56] | wagnerrp: | high-rez: for most people, it is |
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| [06:02:07] | Captain_Murdoch: | jac1d2, you from Vancouver? |
| [06:02:23] | wagnerrp: | Cipher: mythtv with FiOS works exactly the same as any other QAM provider |
| [06:02:26] | jac1d2: | Captain_Murdoch: If by from you mean do I live in Vancouver, yes :) |
| [06:02:34] | high-rez: | wangerrp: All but one of my providers has a ton of data – and that provider has none. |
| [06:02:38] | Captain_Murdoch: | my wife is from Coquitlam |
| [06:03:08] | Captain_Murdoch: | was just up there a few weeks ago. |
| [06:03:22] | wagnerrp: | you may manage a couple channels with a clearqam tuner (theyre required to provide the must-carry) |
| [06:03:41] | wagnerrp: | but for the most part, youre stuck with a STB and an ir blaster |
| [06:03:48] | jac1d2: | Captain_Murdoch: I only live a few minutes from coquitlam |
| [06:04:44] | Captain_Murdoch: | I don't see much in the backend log you posted. have you checked to make sure you don't have a corrupt table? |
| [06:05:24] | Captain_Murdoch: | you could also try that query with "duplicate" or "transcoded" to see if either of those fields is hosed up. |
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| [06:07:08] | jac1d2: | Captain_Murdoch: are duplicate and transcode in the recordings tabb? |
| [06:07:12] | jac1d2: | table |
| [06:07:17] | Captain_Murdoch: | recorded yes |
| [06:07:27] | Captain_Murdoch: | transcoded |
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| [06:08:10] | jac1d2: | Captain_Murdoch: all reporting 0 |
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| [06:08:28] | wagnerrp: | before continuing, should jac1d2 update to -fixes? |
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| [06:12:18] | Captain_Murdoch: | I'm not sure what has gone in that might affect this but it wouldn't hurt if it's easy enough to do. |
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| [06:13:12] | jac1d2: | Captain_Murdoch: trying to do that now via the mythbuntu autobuilds option |
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| [06:16:43] | jac1d2: | Captain_Murdoch: I hope this doesnt hose my system |
| [06:17:04] | Captain_Murdoch: | make sure you make a SQL backup before starting the new install |
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| [06:18:30] | jac1d2: | Captain_Murdoch: just did a mysqldump of it |
| [06:19:36] | Cipher42: | hello? |
| [06:20:02] | Cipher42: | sorry, finally got in |
| [06:20:08] | Cipher42: | does mythtv work with verizon fios? |
| [06:20:23] | wagnerrp: | i answered that about 20 minutes ago |
| [06:20:47] | Cipher42: | sorry i didn't see |
| [06:20:52] | jac1d2: | ...when he said yes :) |
| [06:21:04] | Cipher42: | in digital? |
| [06:21:05] | Cipher42: | thanks guys |
| [06:21:17] | wagnerrp: | yes... it works as well as it does with any other QAM cable service |
| [06:21:18] | Cipher42: | i have a hauppauge 1800 |
| [06:21:24] | Cipher42: | i have analog |
| [06:21:37] | jac1d2: | the 1800 and analog don't play nicely the last time I looked, admiteddly a while ago |
| [06:21:42] | Cipher42: | not sure if hauppauge 1800 analog even works with mythtv yet |
| [06:22:02] | Cipher42: | yea, but verizon fios analog an digital both work with mythtv? |
| [06:22:16] | Cipher42: | i was having a major problems getting channels to come up in mythtv-setup |
| [06:22:18] | wagnerrp: | i was not aware verizon provided analog service |
| [06:22:31] | Cipher42: | yea there are digital and analog channels |
| [06:22:35] | Cipher42: | for old skool crt's |
| [06:22:54] | wagnerrp: | anyway, QAM works fine with that card |
| [06:23:06] | wagnerrp: | the local 'must carry' broadcast channels |
| [06:23:32] | Cipher42: | not sure what that means |
| [06:23:35] | wagnerrp: | analog on that card works on linux, but theres an issue that makes it incompatible with mythtv |
| [06:23:43] | Cipher42: | ah ok |
| [06:23:46] | Cipher42: | still?? |
| [06:23:49] | Cipher42: | it's been so long.. |
| [06:24:11] | jac1d2: | get an hvr-1600 and you'll be fine |
| [06:24:19] | wagnerrp: | or keep your card |
| [06:24:26] | wagnerrp: | and get a cheap pvr-150 off ebay |
| [06:24:35] | jac1d2: | well here goes nothing, the upgrades are installed, I guess I should try and reboot and see if it blows up... |
| [06:24:42] | jac1d2: | be back in a few |
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| [06:27:49] | jac1d2: | Well I -think- I am upgraded to the latest .22 branch of the mythbuntu autobuild, but not change... still how do I confirm my build version? |
| [06:28:04] | wagnerrp: | mythfrontend --version |
| [06:28:13] | jac1d2: | got it... MythTV Version : 23323 |
| [06:28:25] | wagnerrp: | looks fairly recent |
| [06:28:29] | jac1d2: | sayd 22-fixes as well so that sounds like I'm current... crap, no improvement |
| [06:28:34] | wagnerrp: | couple days old |
| [06:29:02] | Cipher42: | is there a channel for advice on spoiled girlfriends? |
| [06:29:14] | wagnerrp: | #4chan |
| [06:29:38] | Wicked: | lol |
| [06:30:11] | Wicked: | be sure to post as much personal info as possible. there a thorough group -_- |
| [06:30:21] | Cipher42: | no one there |
| [06:30:27] | jac1d2: | so recorded programs still appearing fine in mythweb but nada in ui |
| [06:30:33] | Wicked: | consider yourself lucky lol |
| [06:30:48] | wagnerrp: | you can try their website |
| [06:31:12] | Cipher42: | just give me my damned battlefield bad company 2 beta key and i'll be aight |
| [06:31:27] | Wicked: | whats that drop? |
| [06:31:33] | Wicked: | 1st one was pretty good |
| [06:32:19] | jac1d2: | wagnerrp: What else can I do to help debug this? |
| [06:33:08] | jac1d2: | wagnerrp: same length mismatch between programinfo error when I run the frontend and try to access recordings, no changes I can see |
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| [06:36:15] | jac1d2: | I am about ready to break out the blood and chicken bones. Saturday morning cartoon time is not going to be pleasant tomorrow... |
| [06:36:37] | wagnerrp: | jac1d2: i dont know my way around myth's socket code, im better with python |
| [06:36:46] | wagnerrp: | http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/1771676 |
| [06:38:54] | jac1d2: | http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/1771678 |
| [06:39:30] | wagnerrp: | well mythweb pulled the list, the bindings pulled the list |
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| [06:39:47] | wagnerrp: | the same list that the frontend failed at some 122819 bytes |
| [06:40:14] | wagnerrp: | now i know the frontend socket code should handle that, since theres users with over a thousand recordings |
| [06:40:32] | wagnerrp: | but i dont know why it would cut out early |
| [06:40:44] | jac1d2: | wagnerrp: That is what I expected too (many more recordings than I) |
| [06:40:54] | jac1d2: | wagnerrp: is there a special character that isn't escaped or anything like htat? |
| [06:41:23] | wagnerrp: | not that i know of |
| [06:41:35] | wagnerrp: | and i know the bindings choke hard on unicode |
| [06:41:44] | wagnerrp: | that revision more so than current |
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| [06:42:15] | jac1d2: | wagnerrp: does it make sense that when I try to change the filter view, even to a group with as few as 3–4 recordings, that doesn't work either? |
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| [06:43:33] | wagnerrp: | well if you want to test that theory, run be.backendCommand('QUERY_RECORDINGS Play') |
| [06:43:58] | wagnerrp: | should print out the big massive string like you saw with the verbose output from mythfrontend |
| [06:45:23] | jac1d2: | http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/1771683 |
| [06:45:55] | wagnerrp: | there it is |
| [06:46:00] | wagnerrp: | huh |
| [06:46:29] | wagnerrp: | Captain_Murdoch: if youre still around, you might want to check that out |
| [06:46:42] | wagnerrp: | a bunch of null characters half a dozen entries up from the bottom |
| [06:47:18] | wagnerrp: | where are you getting your guide data? |
| [06:47:25] | jac1d2: | schedulesdirect and atsc |
| [06:47:36] | wagnerrp: | both? well thats wrong right there |
| [06:47:41] | jac1d2: | but I should mention the last few recordings happened while we were continuing to trouble shoot this |
| [06:47:42] | wagnerrp: | you should stick to one or the other |
| [06:47:43] | wagnerrp: | but not mix |
| [06:48:44] | sphery: | largest pastebin I've ever seen :) |
| [06:48:54] | Captain_Murdoch: | oh, now you show up.... |
| [06:48:54] | jac1d2: | I -thought- I was getting it all from SD but when I looked closely earlier today I noticed it seemed to be getting it from the atsc stream but also it was checked to use the xmltvid so I'm not even sure what the answer is on that, to be honest, it was on my list to look in to when everything vanished |
| [06:49:13] | Captain_Murdoch: | yeah, we shouldn't choke on those, but there may be something down in the socket code that does. |
| [06:49:25] | sphery: | firefox 3.5.6 can't render it right |
| [06:49:33] | wagnerrp: | sphery: works fine here |
| [06:49:49] | wagnerrp: | erm, no... guess im on 3.6 |
| [06:49:54] | sphery: | it's killing my system with the javascript highlighting garbage |
| [06:50:22] | jac1d2: | is there a recording I can delete to remove them and possibly clear this? |
| [06:50:35] | sphery: | trying to scroll is painfully slow and trying to select stuff (to mark the beginning of a record) is nearly locking up my system |
| [06:51:54] | Captain_Murdoch: | jac1d2, january 29th, 7:10PM whatever recorded at that time. |
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| [06:52:40] | ** Captain_Murdoch wonders if we should get that in a ticket or if we should attribute it to bad data. ** | |
| [06:52:43] | jac1d2: | Captain_Murdoch: Er... nothing in mythweb |
| [06:52:51] | Captain_Murdoch: | not sure if the socket code has to handle it that way. |
| [06:53:20] | jac1d2: | Captain_Murdoch: I have a listing at 3pm (Mad Money) and then 8pm (Dollhouse)... I have nothing in between... oh wait, must bei n livetv |
| [06:53:32] | Captain_Murdoch: | probably, it's an odd time. |
| [06:53:37] | Captain_Murdoch: | 7:10:39 |
| [06:53:55] | sphery: | LiveTV |
| [06:53:58] | jac1d2: | aha... thats an atsc station and I see rogue characters in the station ID |
| [06:54:47] | jac1d2: | happens to be a new ota station here that I never watch |
| [06:54:53] | jac1d2: | I happened to tune it tonight when testing channel change scripts |
| [06:54:54] | wagnerrp: | yeah, fix the channame in the channel editor, and that should fix subsequent recordings |
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| [06:55:03] | sphery: | station should be editable |
| [06:55:15] | wagnerrp: | why theyre in there in the first place, i couldnt tell you |
| [06:55:25] | jac1d2: | wagnerrp: Bad news... I deleted the recording and same issue when I go in the FE |
| [06:56:23] | sphery: | whats numprogramlines, now? |
| [06:56:30] | wagnerrp: | do you have mythtv set to autoexpire instead of default? |
| [06:56:51] | wagnerrp: | run that 'backendCommand' line again, see if the show is gone now |
| [06:57:00] | jac1d2: | wagnerrp: not sure I know the context of that question. Its a stock mythbuntu install, not sure what defaults are on in that case, i didn't change any expiration defaults |
| [06:57:02] | sphery: | Doesn't the final entry only have 43 lines? |
| [06:57:14] | sphery: | meaning that the 0' is bad chars |
| [06:57:27] | sphery: | (O |
| [06:57:33] | sphery: | (I'm still in http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/1771683 ) |
| [06:58:09] | wagnerrp: | sphery: that string in that pastebin parses out fine |
| [06:58:09] | sphery: | nvm.... miscounted |
| [06:58:20] | wagnerrp: | (i just tried so in the python bindings) |
| [06:58:32] | sphery: | yeah, it's good |
| [06:58:39] | sphery: | is it all the recordings it should be? |
| [06:59:06] | jac1d2: | http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/1771688 |
| [06:59:11] | wagnerrp: | probably plus some livetv recordings that would be filtered out by the frontend |
| [07:00:07] | wagnerrp: | yeah, the bad recording is still there |
| [07:00:11] | wagnerrp: | how did you delete it? |
| [07:00:15] | jac1d2: | from mythweb |
| [07:00:37] | jac1d2: | it was OMNI TV with about 12 reversed ?'s after the station name, used the delete link on the right... |
| [07:00:49] | wagnerrp: | null characters |
| [07:00:56] | wagnerrp: | 0x00 |
| [07:02:56] | jac1d2: | aha if I leave the livetv filter in mythweb and go back in, our friend is in fact still there |
| [07:02:59] | jac1d2: | you are correct |
| [07:03:44] | jac1d2: | 42_1 – OMNI BC������������� |
| [07:05:18] | jac1d2: | In fact, I deleted 3 other livetv shows recorded prior to that, they are all still present as well |
| [07:05:32] | sphery: | heh: bool LoadFromRecorded( ProgramList &destination, bool orderDescending, bool possiblyInProgressTecordingsOnly, const ProgramList &schedList) |
| [07:05:39] | sphery: | "possiblyInProgressTecordingsOnly" |
| [07:06:07] | sphery: | jac1d2: so are these or aren't these deleting properly? |
| [07:06:40] | jac1d2: | sphery: They disappeared from the web interface so I thought they had, when I left the livetv view in mythweb and returned to it, they were still present so they did not delete afterall |
| [07:06:55] | sphery: | Can you change the recording group on them? |
| [07:06:58] | sphery: | to Deleted? |
| [07:07:09] | sphery: | (no question mark--case sensitive, not translated) |
| [07:07:21] | jac1d2: | sphery: you mean via mythweb or? |
| [07:07:29] | sphery: | ideally via mythweb |
| [07:07:33] | sphery: | (don't know if it allows that) |
| [07:07:40] | jac1d2: | looking |
| [07:07:54] | sphery: | if not, I know the frontend would, but were you unable to see them in the frontend... |
| [07:08:13] | jac1d2: | sphery: yes a bit difficult to use the FE to do it when they are hidden :) |
| [07:08:26] | Captain_Murdoch: | jac1d2, "update channel set name = 'OMNI BC' where chanid = 2421;" |
| [07:08:51] | wagnerrp: | that stuff just gets pulled in with a join, right? |
| [07:08:52] | sphery: | channel editor won't let him update the name with the bad chars? |
| [07:08:59] | wagnerrp: | you fix the channel table, and you fix everything? |
| [07:09:14] | sphery: | alos, are you sure it's channel.name and not channel.callsign? |
| [07:09:24] | Captain_Murdoch: | yeah, callsign is right before the bad data. |
| [07:09:26] | sphery: | it's name |
| [07:09:28] | Captain_Murdoch: | :) |
| [07:09:38] | ** Captain_Murdoch already counted out the fields in the log. ** | |
| [07:09:38] | jac1d2: | Captain_Murdoch: Done, and fixed in mythweb, trying delete now |
| [07:09:39] | sphery: | still too slow... |
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| [07:09:57] | wagnerrp: | its the 8th field, starting from 1 |
| [07:09:59] | wagnerrp: | whatever that is |
| [07:10:05] | wagnerrp: | i have it in the bindings as 'channame' |
| [07:10:09] | Captain_Murdoch: | yep |
| [07:10:46] | jac1d2: | Captain_Murdoch: You solved the riddle... with that change I could see everything in the FE (didn't try and delete it yet) |
| [07:11:04] | Captain_Murdoch: | they solved it, I just swooped in for the credit. :) |
| [07:11:05] | sphery: | cool |
| [07:11:08] | wagnerrp: | i assuming you didnt set that yourself |
| [07:11:14] | jac1d2: | hell no |
| [07:11:20] | wagnerrp: | so the scanner got that from the program table? |
| [07:11:32] | jac1d2: | must have |
| [07:11:35] | sphery: | Captain_Murdoch: if that's true, then "they" = wagnerrp--I was just a speed bump on the road to success :) |
| [07:11:45] | jac1d2: | does it make sense that if I never tuned that channel until tonight that it wouldnt' have updated? |
| [07:11:51] | Captain_Murdoch: | sphery, he's the one that noticed the \x00\x00 's |
| [07:12:08] | wagnerrp: | toss up a ticket for the scanner to do some sanitation of the data? |
| [07:12:12] | sphery: | (miscounted the number of fields in the last row, thought it was callsign, ... I was just slowing down progress :) |
| [07:12:24] | wagnerrp: | not sure what else would have caused those nulls to be there |
| [07:12:30] | sphery: | did that channel name come from the scanner? |
| [07:12:38] | wagnerrp: | its an ATSC channel |
| [07:12:43] | jac1d2: | in testing my channel change script it failed and I ended up on the analog version of that channel, but I wanted to watch what was on it for a moment and realized they recently started broadcasting in digital so I tuned the digital channel – the first time it had been tuned since the initial scan |
| [07:13:13] | jac1d2: | that appears to be when all hell broke loose, around 19:10 |
| [07:13:38] | jac1d2: | Not sure if it updated when I did that or it was always like that but there were never any recordings associated with it so it never tripped the wire? |
| [07:13:48] | wagnerrp: | the latter |
| [07:14:10] | jac1d2: | I am awed by your collective godlyness |
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| [07:14:29] | wagnerrp: | i just do the python |
| [07:15:11] | sphery: | and user support and fixing other stuff and ... |
| [07:15:15] | sphery: | (he does a lot :) |
| [07:15:20] | jac1d2: | sanitizing scanner data sounds like a good idea |
| [07:15:51] | jac1d2: | any reason you shouldn't be able to delete that entry from mythweb? |
| [07:15:54] | jac1d2: | (prior to the fix) |
| [07:17:18] | jac1d2: | erm, they are not deleting from the web interface, those last three are persisting when I return to that page... will try from the FE now that I can see them again |
| [07:19:02] | jac1d2: | in fact I can't delete them from the FE either... |
| [07:19:43] | jac1d2: | ah... the Omni recording has no programid at all (at least not visible) is that causing a second issue? |
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| [07:24:19] | jac1d2: | hmm tried setting that to a value and still cant delete it (setting programid) |
| [07:25:27] | jac1d2: | anyone, anyone... Bueller.... Bueller? |
| [07:27:22] | sphery: | programid is irrelevant |
| [07:27:41] | jac1d2: | sphery: Was worth a try while I waited :) |
| [07:27:58] | sphery: | usually if they don't delete (but it looks like they delete, then they pop up later) that means you have invalid owner/permissions on the file |
| [07:28:05] | jac1d2: | sphery: just confirmed, the underlying video is there, I can watch it... just wanted to make sure the file didn't delete and the db entry stuck around |
| [07:28:06] | sphery: | or the directory containing the file |
| [07:28:24] | jac1d2: | AHA |
| [07:28:36] | jac1d2: | just looking, I do see varying perms in the video dir |
| [07:28:53] | jac1d2: | should all be mythtv.mythtv correct? |
| [07:29:23] | sphery: | whoever runs the backend |
| [07:29:47] | sphery: | and if it's NFS, it has to be the same UID on the backend server and the NFS server |
| [07:30:09] | jac1d2: | local disk, no nfs here |
| [07:30:15] | jac1d2: | backend runs as.... |
| [07:30:32] | jac1d2: | mythtv... |
| [07:30:45] | jac1d2: | all entries mythtv.mythtv now but still can not delete |
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| [07:31:17] | sphery: | and perms? |
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| [07:31:49] | sphery: | rw-rw-r-- would be good (644) |
| [07:31:59] | sphery: | and make sure the directory containing the files is 775 |
| [07:32:07] | sphery: | rwxrwxr-x |
| [07:32:27] | jac1d2: | all the mpg files are rw/r/r |
| [07:32:49] | sphery: | who runs the backend? |
| [07:32:59] | jac1d2: | mythtv |
| [07:33:01] | jac1d2: | drwxrwsr-x 2 mythtv mythtv 36864 2010-01–29 23:16 recordings |
| [07:33:26] | sphery: | that's fine (sticky group means that all should get mythtv group ownership) |
| [07:33:44] | sphery: | check the backend logs for error messages |
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| [07:36:05] | jac1d2: | duh... the files aren't in recordings... they are in /livetv and I didn't fix those perms |
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| [07:39:38] | jac1d2: | Is it normal that I can't delete livetv from the ui? I can't delete shows from weeks ago that are under livetv either, although I cna under recordings |
| [07:41:07] | jac1d2: | Weird, I can delete from mythweb but not from the UI when it comes to live TV |
| [07:41:26] | jac1d2: | but I cna live with that for now, I need to get some rest. Thanks for saving my kids saturday morning TV time :) |
| [07:41:29] | jac1d2: | you guys are awesome |
| [07:41:33] | sphery: | you mean you don't see them in the UI or you see them but they don't delete? |
| [07:41:39] | jac1d2: | see them, they don't delete |
| [07:41:45] | jac1d2: | can delete recordings |
| [07:41:46] | sphery: | they should... |
| [07:42:07] | jac1d2: | no longer any backend errors in log either |
| [07:42:45] | jac1d2: | Are you sure you should be able to delete filtered livetv from the UI? |
| [07:42:52] | sphery: | there may be a bug though that you might be encountering... I don't remember if it was fixed, but was thinking someone mentioned that LiveTV wouldn't delete. |
| [07:43:00] | jac1d2: | I notice when I go in to the explicit delte menu under manage recordings it doesn't even list livetV or let me select it |
| [07:43:06] | sphery: | it should work, but might be a bug in your version |
| [07:43:16] | sphery: | I don't remember if it was fixed overall, though |
| [07:43:24] | jac1d2: | sphery: I can live with that if that is the case |
| [07:43:31] | jac1d2: | does appear to be the case here |
| [07:43:46] | sphery: | http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/7788 |
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| [07:44:02] | sphery: | perhaps it will get fixed this weekend during the Bug-squasing party... |
| [07:44:18] | sphery: | any chance you compiled your mythfrontend? |
| [07:44:23] | sphery: | er, mythtv |
| [07:44:29] | sphery: | (it's the backend you need :) |
| [07:44:33] | wagnerrp: | no, stock mythbuntu |
| [07:44:39] | jac1d2: | nope, this is an auto build from mythbuntu for .22-fixes |
| [07:44:44] | wagnerrp: | (upgraded to the latest -fixes binaries) |
| [07:44:45] | sphery: | ok... |
| [07:44:56] | sphery: | I can see about testing that |
| [07:45:04] | jac1d2: | so the other issue, we did find an honest to go bug or at least an oppotunity to santize scanner data? |
| [07:45:09] | sphery: | Captain_Murdoch: still around? |
| [07:45:12] | jac1d2: | *god |
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| [07:45:44] | sphery: | Captain_Murdoch: does this sound right: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/attachment/ticket/ . . . elete.dpatch "// LiveTV ProgramInfo's are not in the aggregated list" (your change) + "// unless LiveTV is the currently selected group" (patch's addition) |
| [07:46:05] | sphery: | jac1d2: it could be considered both |
| [07:46:18] | sphery: | I doubt the protocol will be fixed to handle the nulls |
| [07:46:18] | Captain_Murdoch: | barely, trying to finish my pixel aspect ratio patch for fonts. |
| [07:46:35] | sphery: | Captain_Murdoch: no problem--feel free to keep working that |
| [07:46:41] | sphery: | just thought you might know the issue |
| [07:46:58] | sphery: | jac1d2: I mean, "I doubt the protocol will be fixed to handle the nulls /before 0.23 is released/" :) |
| [07:47:01] | BinaryMan: | is there a reason images aren't being fetched when populating my videos with metadata? |
| [07:47:32] | sphery: | BinaryMan: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythVideo_.22_Transition_Guide + http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythVideo_File_Parsing ? |
| [07:47:33] | Captain_Murdoch: | sphery, no, I haven't looked into that. |
| [07:47:38] | jac1d2: | Well thank you again everyone. I'm going to call it a night. |
| [07:47:39] | wagnerrp: | BinaryMan: how exactly are you doing it? |
| [07:47:53] | wagnerrp: | i assuming by hitting 'w'? |
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| [07:48:08] | BinaryMan: | INFO -> Metadata Options -> Download Metadata |
| [07:48:14] | wagnerrp: | same thing |
| [07:48:15] | sphery: | Captain_Murdoch: I'll test it... I have a couple of temp recordings I can delete on my dev box |
| [07:48:40] | BinaryMan: | wagnerrp: the videos are iso archives of the original DVD. |
| [07:48:41] | sphery: | problem is we're doing bsp in here, so stuarta won't notice and he'll think no one's attending his party :( |
| [07:49:07] | wagnerrp: | BinaryMan: have you set the proper variables in mythvideo setup in mythfrontend for the image paths? |
| [07:49:31] | wagnerrp: | sphery: nonsense |
| [07:49:35] | wagnerrp: | were coming up with new bugs |
| [07:49:38] | BinaryMan: | wagnerrp: if they aren't set by default, probably not. |
| [07:49:40] | wagnerrp: | were doing nothing to squash old ones |
| [07:50:06] | BinaryMan: | wagnerrp: would this be under video settings or image settings? |
| [07:50:55] | wagnerrp: | setup --> media settings --> video settings |
| [07:51:19] | wagnerrp: | video settings, image settings, music settings... those are all for independent plugins |
| [07:51:25] | sphery: | wagnerrp: but the LiveTV delete bug was a pre-existing bug... :) http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/7788 |
| [07:51:30] | BinaryMan: | the default directory does exist. |
| [07:51:37] | BinaryMan: | i don't see why images aren't being downloaded to it. |
| [07:51:39] | sphery: | what's the call on backports |
| [07:51:45] | BinaryMan: | wait a second. |
| [07:51:48] | wagnerrp: | and its writable by the user running mythfrontend? |
| [07:52:01] | sphery: | this is a very simple fix if it works and fixes a bug in 0.22-fixes, but it's not super important |
| [07:52:13] | BinaryMan: | wagnerrp: that's what i was thinking |
| [07:52:34] | BinaryMan: | no, it isn't, but it is writable by the group 'mythtv' and the user running the frontend is in that group. |
| [07:56:07] | BinaryMan: | the directory is /var/lib/mythtv/pictures |
| [07:56:14] | BinaryMan: | and the user can definitely write to the directory. |
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| [07:56:28] | BinaryMan: | so i'm guessing this is a grabber problem and not a user permission problem |
| [07:57:10] | sphery: | nvm on backports... code in trunk has changed significantly, so I'm not backporting |
| [07:57:22] | wagnerrp: | BinaryMan: what video, specifically? |
| [07:57:48] | BinaryMan: | wagnerrp: i've tried several. |
| [07:57:55] | wagnerrp: | list a couple |
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| [07:58:33] | BinaryMan: | 28 Days Later, 28 Weeks Later, American History X, Angels and Demons, August Rush and so on. |
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| [08:02:04] | wagnerrp: | odd, the old tmdb.pl doesnt run for me any longer |
| [08:02:36] | BinaryMan: | my sincerest apologies. |
| [08:03:01] | wagnerrp: | no, its just neglected, replaced by tmdb.py, and apparently left to disrepair |
| [08:03:22] | BinaryMan: | i started this project running ubuntu 9.04 only to find out that the repo doesn't provide .22 for 9.04 |
| [08:03:23] | wagnerrp: | however it behaves slightly differently from the new tmdb.py |
| [08:03:41] | wagnerrp: | wait... are you running 0.21? |
| [08:03:46] | BinaryMan: | no |
| [08:04:00] | BinaryMan: | i just spent the last hour upgrading so i could use .22 out of the box. |
| [08:04:13] | BinaryMan: | i was having other problems with .21 which is why i upgraded. |
| [08:04:22] | BinaryMan: | i *know* i'm running .22 |
| [08:08:06] | BinaryMan: | as far as why images are not being downloaded? |
| [08:08:32] | BinaryMan: | is there a log that might tell me what exactly is happening, perhaps? |
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| [08:40:10] | [Peter]: | wtf |
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| [09:14:07] | sphery: | Really? When will it stop???? |
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| [09:15:07] | And4713: | sphery, Im amazed the client has not been temporarily suspended yet |
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| [09:15:14] | sphery: | no joke |
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| [09:15:33] | sphery: | do you know if we were to ask in #freenode if they could do that? |
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| [09:15:47] | And4713: | why dont we just solve it from our end by calling slicer |
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| [09:15:59] | sphery: | don't know slicer... |
| [09:16:00] | And4713: | or someone else with the ability to tempban locally |
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| [09:16:11] | sphery: | oh, heh, I have that ability |
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| [09:16:18] | sphery: | but not in #mythtv :( |
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| [09:16:20] | And4713: | I dont know him personally either but hes the head dude |
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| [09:16:47] | And4713: | wait |
| [09:16:50] | sphery: | seems it's a problem with Australia (basedon the 2 guys it's happening to?) |
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| [09:17:13] | And4713: | sphery, my apologies, mumble and mythtv are right next to eachother in my client |
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| [09:17:27] | sphery: | heh, no probs |
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| [09:17:33] | sphery: | figured it was just someone I didn't know ;) |
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| [09:17:55] | sphery: | I'm going to see if someone in #freenode can "fix" it for us in both #mythtv-users and #mythtv |
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| [09:19:58] | sphery: | And4713: heh, they're talking about it in #freenode |
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| [09:20:09] | And4713: | sphery, oh? |
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| [09:20:40] | sphery: | And4713: seems that the default join rate limit is too low, so clients that are set up to join too many channels are getting booted (then those with auto-rejoin do this ^^^) |
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| [09:21:19] | sphery: | (this is the default for the new ircd they just migrated to) |
| [09:21:20] | And4713: | sphery, wouldent the mass reconnections cause a tempban though |
| [09:21:21] | Tanthrix: | I can see that there are getting right on top of it... |
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| [09:21:39] | sphery: | yeah, sounds like they may have it fixed soon |
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| [09:21:47] | sphery: | still, you'd think their clients would have figured it out |
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| [09:21:51] | Tanthrix: | Hrm, migrating a whole IRC network. That sounds like fun. |
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| [09:21:59] | And4713: | and sphery I know its new but they have been testing it forever, I doubt there isnt connection throttling |
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| [09:22:06] | sphery: | no joke--and wasn't too painful for users (well, most of us :) |
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| [09:23:12] | sphery: | heh, and someone in some channel is using the nick NICKSERV and is echoing out passwords in one of the channels |
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| [09:23:31] | sphery: | er, that was on calvino.freenode.net |
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| [09:23:53] | xand: | god this is annoying |
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| [09:23:54] | And4713: | this is pretty painful here jesus |
| [09:23:59] | Tanthrix: | sphery: If you can tempban him, for the love of god why not? |
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| [09:24:05] | And4713: | sphery, can we not do something |
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| [09:24:10] | And4713: | yes I agree with Tanthrix |
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| [09:24:30] | sphery: | ok, I have to try to figure it out--I just got op and don't know how to use it |
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| [09:24:38] | Tanthrix: | Hehe, fair enough. |
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| [09:25:06] | And4713: | Id say give it to me but thats just irreverent and bull headed |
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| [09:25:13] | Tanthrix: | Ooo, Dagmar got banned? |
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| [09:25:19] | sphery: | heh, well that sounds even more difficult |
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| [09:25:22] | And4713: | sphery, use /chanserv op #mythtv-users |
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| [09:25:27] | Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +o sphery | |
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| [09:25:38] | xand: | not another one |
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| [09:25:51] | xand: | /mode +b *!*@domain.name |
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| [09:26:17] | And4713: | sphery, /mode +b Agrajag!*@* |
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| [09:27:39] | And4713: | sphery, quickly haha |
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| [09:28:03] | sphery: | heh |
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| [09:28:11] | xand: | there's a – in the nick |
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| [09:28:17] | And4713: | xand, whoops |
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| [09:28:25] | Tanthrix: | I'm not sure how I feel about Dagmar being banned. I used to think he was a complete jerk, more useless than not around here. But now I sort of miss him...it was sort of nice to come back here after a year or two and know that he was still here...being a jerk to newbies and the world. |
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| [09:28:41] | And4713: | you might want to -b that forst one |
| [09:28:44] | Mode for #mythtv-users by sphery!~mdean@user-0c6sj10.cable.mindspring.com : -b Agrajag!*@* | |
| [09:28:46] | sphery: | thx |
| [09:28:50] | And4713: | sorry bout that didnt see the - |
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| [09:29:19] | sphery: | OK, I think I'm back to normal |
| [09:29:23] | And4713: | wow that completely fills my buffer |
| [09:29:27] | sphery: | I was trying to follow some directions I got from someone else |
| [09:29:27] | Tanthrix: | Peace is restored! Thanks sphery. |
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| [09:29:34] | sphery: | too bad I can't do it in #mythtv |
| [09:29:35] | And4713: | and mines 750 lines |
| [09:30:02] | sphery: | now to figure out why my nick was mentioned in #freenode |
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| [09:30:25] | And4713: | sphery, how much fo a zoo is it in there right now |
| [09:30:38] | sphery: | pretty busy |
| [09:30:47] | sphery: | I didn't talk--I'm just lurking |
| [09:31:04] | And4713: | talk about a complete whirlwind of texty |
| [09:31:53] | sphery: | some 3 different nicks joined and repeated what looked like a list of all users on niven.freenode.net a bunch of times then left... Don't know why |
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| [09:32:35] | xand: | more bans time! |
| [09:32:48] | sphery: | wonder how long I should keep Agrajag- banned |
| [09:33:12] | sphery: | would his client have figured it out by now and stopped trying? |
| [09:33:18] | And4713: | apparently not |
| [09:33:32] | Tanthrix: | There's one way to find out. |
| [09:33:42] | And4713: | considering it connected at least 375 times |
| [09:33:53] | sphery: | heh |
| [09:33:55] | And4713: | and thats just within what I can see |
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| [09:36:30] | sphery: | heh, my log doesn't have a channel name, now |
| [09:36:51] | And4713: | sphery, I would say keep him banned until they come up with a solution in #freenode |
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| [09:37:12] | sphery: | sounds good |
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| [09:43:18] | pheld: | does anyone know what is it that makes the back-end fail to access the DVB-interface every now and then? (trunk) |
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| [09:43:42] | pheld: | and shouldn't it be able to reopen the interface without backend restart? |
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| [09:46:11] | pheld: | the backend keeps repeating errors related to attempts to set interface parameters until it is restarted. |
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| [09:46:56] | pheld: | will it behave differently if the backend is configured to release the DVB-interface when it is unused? |
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| [09:49:44] | sphery: | pheld: yes, you probably want open dvb cards on demand... the failing to access is likely due to a low-level (driver/card) error |
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| [09:50:48] | pheld: | trying that now, but the text on the config page indicates that this will also disable active EIT-scanning, is that right? |
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| [09:51:26] | sphery: | pheld: not sure--I don't know anything about EIT (but if that's what the help text says, it's likely the case :) |
| [09:53:05] | sphery: | pheld: they're separate settings, so enable open on demand and leave active EIT enabled |
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| [09:53:35] | sphery: | though the active EIT will always use (one or more) cards, myth will be able to reopen the devices if it needs to |
| [09:53:35] | pheld: | but the text for active EIT indicates that it is blocking the interface |
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| [09:54:15] | sphery: | Use DVB Card for active EIT scan: This option activates the active scan for program data (EIT). With this option enabled the DVB card is constantly in-use. |
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| [09:54:19] | sphery: | right? |
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| [09:54:41] | pheld: | I'll have a look at the code. There's no reason why it can't try to open the interface for scanning periodically and just wait if it happens to be locked by some other process. |
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| [09:55:35] | pheld: | yes, that's the text I was referring to |
| [09:55:58] | sphery: | sounds like you can enable open on demand, then |
| [09:56:19] | sphery: | it will always demand (at least one) card, but it can reopen when required |
| [09:56:49] | sphery: | pheld: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/5754 (though it's a bit of a hack) |
| [09:57:12] | sphery: | it = the idea, not necessarily the code (I haven't looked at the code) |
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| [09:58:50] | sphery: | So, /kb'ing those guys in here seems to have stopped them auto-joining in #mythtv , too |
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| [10:18:35] | sphery: | I stand corrected... Agrajag- got his client sorted and high-rez's client is still auto-rejoining #mythtv... |
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| [10:27:40] | sphery: | And4713: btw, for the record--according to my logs, it was 977 times by the time I (with your help) banned him |
| [10:28:03] | And4713: | thats a hefty number of times for it not to have throttled |
| [10:28:32] | sphery: | no joke |
| [10:29:08] | sphery: | high-rez is still trying to connect to #mythtv, but I'm pretty sure I don't have op there |
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| [10:29:46] | sphery: | nope, I don't (chanserv just told me :) |
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| [10:42:15] | anykey_: | is there a way to bind the Skip Back/Forward keys to Previous/Next chapter *only* for DVDs? |
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| [11:08:15] | sphery: | And4713: skip back/forward keys meaning left/right buttons? |
| [11:08:22] | sphery: | sorry, that was for anykey_ |
| [11:08:25] | sphery: | anykey_: ^^^ |
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| [11:11:18] | anykey_: | sphery: yeah |
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| [11:29:14] | sphery: | anykey_: No, not without changes to the code. I think it's using either UP/DOWN or CHANNELUP/DOWN by default. |
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| [11:30:03] | anykey_: | it uses UP/DOWN |
| [11:30:55] | anykey_: | a bit hard to explain to the user.. |
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| [12:10:08] | olx69: | http://www.mythtvtalk.com/ what's up here? |
| [12:12:38] | olx69: | I've written a script to convert recordings to mkv and put them into mythvideo or even stay it as mythtv recording. As time time mkv only with ogg/mp3 and h264. Where to place it for the community to test it? It's tested for PAL-BG SD-TV from DVB-T |
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| [12:14:13] | olx69: | it works as mythjob,standalone remote also |
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| [16:25:19] | UltimateMass: | When I am watching Live TV or Recorded TV I get transparent boxes that appear with no text in them (there should be text there... ). I have tried different themes, no effect. I do not have schedules direct set up yet (wanted to make sure this would work first!). This is on a Dell GX270 (ATI Video) with Mythbuntu installed. Anyone know the fix for this? My searches are coming up blank or I'm not phrasing the question corr |
| [16:26:58] | UltimateMass: | also, this is on a large monitor that has a max of 800 x 600. Everything else works fine, record, change channels i have added.. but i just never see any text in the boxes.. |
| [16:28:58] | AndyCap: | Oh, my. 7 hour train ride in 1080i50. 246GB. |
| [16:30:53] | olx69: | http://www.mythtvtalk.com/forum/ not found??? |
| [16:32:34] | tank-man: | uri works for me |
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| [16:34:00] | AndyCap: | Heh, I guess mythtv doesn't do ProRes playback. |
| [16:34:16] | tank-man: | current active users: MSNBot(2), Yahoo! Slurp, Google, Google AdSense, Google FeedFetcher |
| [16:34:17] | tank-man: | :) |
| [16:34:33] | tank-man: | those users are sure active on the forums |
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| [16:42:43] | UltimateMass: | When I am watching Live TV or Recorded TV I get transparent boxes that appear with no text in them (there should be text there... ). I have tried different themes, no effect. I do not have schedules direct set up yet (wanted to make sure this would work first!). This is on a Dell GX270 (ATI Video) with Mythbuntu installed. Anyone know the fix for this? My searches are coming up blank or I'm not phrasing the question corr |
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| [17:15:07] | oobe: | UltimateMass, are you talking about the osd when you hit I key |
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| [17:15:26] | oobe: | or do you mean there is a problemd with tv playback |
| [17:15:47] | oobe: | it is possible that you are trying to use a osd theme that is not installed |
| [17:16:33] | oobe: | change your osd theme under utils setup > tv settings > playback osd |
| [17:19:41] | oobe: | olx69, http://www.mythtvtalk.com/forum/mythtvtalk-ne . . . dowtime.html |
| [17:21:08] | wagnerrp: | skd5aner: it's doubtful thats the cause |
| [17:21:38] | wagnerrp: | output from an HDPVR *should* always be valid |
| [17:21:56] | wagnerrp: | even if the video it is compressing is weird funky garbage from your STB |
| [17:22:10] | wagnerrp: | it should still be a valid stream coming out of the HDPVR |
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| [17:23:59] | jpabq: | wagnerrp, should, but I have the same experience as skd5aner. The H.264 stream seems to be corrupt when you tell the HD-PVR to start "encoding" when it's video inputs are not being fed a "stable" video/audio stream. |
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| [17:31:56] | wagnerrp: | $5 says Ben Edwards on the -users list doesnt have HBO |
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| [18:11:29] | BobLfoot: | any movement with getting the HVR-1800 Analog Tuner working for Mythtv? |
| [18:12:22] | wagnerrp: | plenty of user requests, patches always welcome |
| [18:12:32] | wagnerrp: | but i dont believe any of the devs actually have one to fix the issue |
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| [18:13:33] | wagnerrp: | although from what i understand, its actually a fault on the part of the driver, rather than mythtv |
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| [18:17:15] | BobLfoot: | wagnerrp: I haven't worked with c since 1987 and am not familiar at all with the newer python, java and such languages. So while I can read code I'm pretty hopeless to write my own at this point. |
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| [18:17:52] | BobLfoot: | I'd probably not even qualify as a dev for mythtv |
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| [18:23:48] | BobLfoot: | anyidea why when burining recordings to DVD any other menu option than the default results in a failure? |
| [18:23:49] | UltimateMass: | oobe: This was a straight install of mythbuntu default.. no changes.. I just never see the text in the transparent boxes that popup if you are watching live tv and press "r" for record.. you get a transparent box that pops up but it has no text |
| [18:23:51] | UltimateMass: | i will try the osd |
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| [18:24:41] | oobe: | yea that is the problem then "the boxes" that popup are called osd which stand for On Screen Display |
| [18:25:21] | UltimateMass: | why would a default mythbuntu default to a osd that it doesn't install? ...odd? |
| [18:25:40] | oobe: | there is a problem with your osd possibly the default osd theme is not installed or you have a problem with you x configuration and fonts |
| [18:25:50] | oobe: | im only guessing UltimateMass |
| [18:26:05] | UltimateMass: | np, i will check those, thanks for the help! |
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| [18:27:56] | wagnerrp: | BobLfoot: well anything you wrote in 1987 probably looks nothing like myth's code |
| [18:28:20] | wagnerrp: | considering its a mix of C++ and the Qt libraries |
| [18:28:40] | wagnerrp: | the code syntax and structure are similar, but thats about it |
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| [18:35:22] | BobLfoot: | yeah I know wagnerrp – I was fluent in Basic, Fortran, Pascal, RPG II and 8080 Assembly Lenguage at that time. Even wrote a special function calculator program in Assembly Language. |
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| [18:36:10] | BobLfoot: | Since then I've worked more with Industrial Machines and stayed in the PC world only as a hobby. |
| [18:36:43] | ** wagnerrp still regularly uses fortran ** | |
| [18:37:03] | BobLfoot: | I only remember that column 8 was important |
| [18:37:14] | wagnerrp: | well... 'still' being relative, since i really only started about 5 years ago |
| [18:38:02] | wagnerrp: | column 8 (and that whole syntax in the first 8 columns) hasnt existed since F90 |
| [18:38:23] | BobLfoot: | see wagnerrp I date myself already |
| [18:39:38] | wagnerrp: | theres a surprising amount of engineering code using fortran |
| [18:40:04] | wagnerrp: | companies arent going to throw out decades of programming, but theres even new stuff written using that language |
| [18:40:20] | wagnerrp: | including some weird constructs including both python and fortran |
| [18:40:33] | wagnerrp: | that kind of baffles me |
| [18:41:15] | BobLfoot: | not surprising to me the algorithm for the 8046 calculator chip I wrote and the company patented in 1986 is still used in the visual C versions on PC's today. |
| [18:41:49] | BobLfoot: | too bad I signed that intellectual rights document – dang |
| [18:44:21] | BobLfoot: | wagnerrp: nice trip down memory lane. I've also been reading the getting started developing webpage. I've only got 1 mythbox and don't know if I want to risk crashing it by doing development stuff yet. |
| [18:46:10] | wagnerrp: | if you actually intend to do something about it, you should speak with someone who actually knows what the problem is |
| [18:46:27] | wagnerrp: | last i heard, it was something in the V4L drivers, rather than any of myth's code |
| [18:47:26] | BobLfoot: | wagnerrp: I will when I finally decide to come off the fence. After all it took me 3 years of hobby play before I converted the entire house to Fedora and Centos |
| [18:50:08] | BobLfoot: | wagnerrp: gottta run – trip to town time now that the plow has opened the road. |
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| [19:17:23] | sphery: | what in the world is: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/changeset/23373 |
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| [19:17:55] | wagnerrp: | removal of white space |
| [19:18:22] | wagnerrp: | that extra character would have destroyed the world |
| [19:18:38] | sphery: | ah, the trac had "White space changes" ignored, so it said, "No files changed." |
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| [19:19:13] | sphery: | I was wondering how to commit a change that doesn't change anything |
| [19:19:19] | wagnerrp: | eh? shows up fine here |
| [19:19:32] | wagnerrp: | both on trac, and trac's email notification |
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| [19:22:29] | sphery: | yeah, once I unchecked "White space changes" under ignore, it shows fine |
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| [19:44:46] | sphery: | Captain_Murdoch: So, do you know of a reason that the Windows compiler would fail on mythtv/libs/libmythtv/tv_play.cpp +5886 (top-of-tree)? It seems it doesn't like WHENCE (the only one declared "out of order", if that's important). Did I do some big no-no with that? |
| [19:45:54] | ** sphery also just realized that the word he wanted was "relative", not "incremental" ** | |
| [19:47:07] | sphery: | Any chance Jonathan who's trying to compile trunk on Windows is in here? |
| [19:48:48] | sphery: | or perhaps WHENCE is causing a namespace collision on Windows |
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| [19:53:28] | wagnerrp: | sphery: have you used anything that uses the python bindings? |
| [19:53:43] | wagnerrp: | im a bit concerned about your special case, the one with hundreds (thousands?) or recordings |
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| [19:54:56] | wagnerrp: | the file transfer code has some stuff to break up long transfers, because the backend will stall on a transfer more than 150–200k or so |
| [19:55:00] | clever: | wagnerrp: 1787 on my end if you need some testing |
| [19:55:12] | wagnerrp: | the backend proto commands have no such stuff |
| [19:55:25] | wagnerrp: | and im just worried since that 200k limit is somewhere around 350 recordings |
| [19:56:09] | sphery: | wagnerrp: I still have Python 2.5 on my system, so I haven't really tried |
| [19:57:05] | ** sphery is slightly concered that his system is less-capable of testing than clevers ;) ** | |
| [19:57:08] | wagnerrp: | this should work on either 0.22 or trunk, if it doesnt error, there is no problem... http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/1772291 |
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| [20:03:41] | Captain_Murdoch: | sphery, I don't see anything wrong with that code. |
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| [20:05:39] | sphery: | Captain_Murdoch: Thanks. I went ahead and pre-emptively cleaned it up a bit to better follow coding style (and to not use all-caps names, in case they conflict with macro definitions). I'm suspecting that it was just a name collision. |
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| [20:09:59] | sphery: | though now, I'm thinking I probably should have used camelback case... |
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| [20:22:38] | dustybin: | 20:22:37 up 36 days, 7:47, 3 users, load average: 0.63, 0.65, 0.66 |
| [20:22:49] | dustybin: | thats how long my backend has been on :D |
| [20:23:17] | dustybin: | holy cows, who are the other 2 users o_0 |
| [20:23:32] | wagnerrp: | two other instances of yourself |
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| [20:23:49] | ** sphery logs out quickly ** | |
| [20:23:51] | wagnerrp: | the frontend, backend, and your current terminal likely all count as their own user |
| [20:24:25] | dustybin: | who gave me a list, its ok :D |
| [20:24:51] | jams: | it's best not to entertain his paranoia |
| [20:24:55] | dustybin: | .22 has been working excellent for me, hardly any problems at all |
| [20:25:12] | Sephen: | Does anyone have some URLs I can look at for connecting MythTV to a Dish or DirectTV STB? I got one of the awesome letters in the mail telling me Comcast is turning off analog cable, and I have no love for Comcast as it is, so I think its switch-time. :) |
| [20:25:45] | wagnerrp: | Sephen: just the generic instructions for using myth with a STB |
| [20:26:07] | dustybin: | what happens when your myth recordings directory runs out of space, what kind of warnings do you guys get? |
| [20:26:10] | wagnerrp: | get an analog capture card, plug it into your STB, set up an external channel changer script using lirc/serial/firewire |
| [20:26:21] | wagnerrp: | honestly, its never happened |
| [20:26:40] | sphery: | Sephen: which means analog capture--PVR-150 or HVR-1600 for standard def or HD-PVR for high def |
| [20:27:14] | wagnerrp: | yes, if you use a framegrabber, you will be openly ridiculed |
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| [20:28:03] | dustybin: | i have a idea for mythtv, have you ever wanted to flick through mythtv menus without disturbing what your watching? how about a way to have the menu overlayed on what your currently watching? |
| [20:28:44] | Sephen: | wagnerrp/sphery: Any knowledge of those providers' STBs turning off analog output in some cases? |
| [20:28:44] | sphery: | dustybin: might be possible after the mythui OSD rewrite |
| [20:28:50] | dustybin: | ace :D |
| [20:29:33] | wagnerrp: | Sephen: as far as im aware, theyre not allowed |
| [20:29:35] | dustybin: | i really cannot think of anything else it needs, mytthv is finished :D |
| [20:29:46] | wagnerrp: | thats why cable companies and the MPAA is pushing hard for SOC |
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| [20:29:59] | sphery: | Summer of Code? :) |
| [20:30:50] | wagnerrp: | yes, because rest assured that if such a thing occurs, dozens of hackers will spend their summer writing altered firmwares to re-enable those analog outputs |
| [20:31:21] | dustybin: | i would love to be in a room full of hackers, interesting as hell :D |
| [20:31:30] | Sephen: | what man can make, man can break. :) |
| [20:32:03] | wagnerrp: | and its not going to make a bit of difference to anyone, since the pirates will continue to use the Oscar and SAG preview disks that 'fell off the back of the mail truck' |
| [20:34:14] | Sephen: | My main reason for wanting to keep Myth, even when the providers all offer HD-DVRs these days, is the ability to speed up or slow down a program. I watch almost all documentaries and news shows at 1.25x normal.. I haven't found any DVR that does that yet... Side affects include faster speech those, so your slower friends may not understand you after long term exposure to fast TV. :) |
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| [20:34:54] | dustybin: | really, it should be, Winter of Code, who the heck wants to code in Summer |
| [20:34:58] | Sephen: | ...fast speech though... Grr for brain-induced type-os. |
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| [20:37:28] | dustybin: | Hostname: wizbox – OS: Linux 2.6.26-2–686/i686 – CPU: 2 x Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 (3192.222 MHz) – Processes: 172 – Uptime: 36d 8h 2m – Load Average: 0.55 – Memory Usage: 530.55MB/2027.40MB (26.17%) – Disk Usage: 599.68GB/1114.55GB (53.80%) |
| [20:37:33] | dustybin: | thats the beast :D |
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| [20:45:15] | ZykoticK9: | With MythVideo are there any character alternatives to separate title from subtitle other then "S01E01" sorta thing? |
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| [20:52:06] | sid3windr: | wtf |
| [20:52:09] | sid3windr: | mode +q $~a |
| [20:52:13] | sid3windr: | where to they get this stuff. |
| [20:52:29] | AndyCap: | from seven? :P |
| [20:52:45] | sid3windr: | ... :) |
| [20:53:08] | sid3windr: | someone put it in there.. :) |
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| [20:53:31] | sphery: | ZykoticK9: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythVideo_File_Parsing |
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| [20:55:34] | ZykoticK9: | sphery, thank you very much that was exactly what i was looking for – unfortunately it looks like the answer is NO (at least for my needs), but thanks again |
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| [20:59:11] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp, lots of people still don't have config.xmls, a mysql.txt will still work |
| [20:59:47] | iamlindoro: | which was RDV_Linux's issue with lots of people attempting to use JAMU at first |
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| [21:06:06] | high-rez: | Is there a way to force a recording to specific source? E.g. i told myth to record a program on my atsc source, but it decided to record it on my qam source instead... |
| [21:08:14] | sphery: | davebs: Generally you should re-ask the question in here for those who didn't see it in the wrong channel (and if you're having problems, it's because you need to identify with nickserv — see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration ), but IMHO, MythTV is not ideal if you're not using the DVR features. |
| [21:08:39] | sphery: | high-rez: glad you made it back... sorry about the ban while you were fixing your auto-join for the new ircd |
| [21:08:54] | high-rez: | sphery: I didn't even notice ;) |
| [21:09:11] | stuarta: | high-rez: use priorities on the source |
| [21:09:19] | sphery: | high-rez: Generally, the answer is no, you can't force a specific source... You can force a specific channel (meaning callsign). |
| [21:09:50] | sphery: | Using channel or input priorities has effects on what (and whether) you record as well as where you record, so you probably don't want to use them |
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| [21:11:22] | sphery: | high-rez: anyway, last night you and one other user were constantly joining and getting kicked because of the 11-channel-autojoin limit the new server had (and the other guy had 997 tries in an hour--which killed the channel), so I banned it until it looked like it got fixed. Yours doing 3 attempts every 2 minutes was much less annoying than the other. |
| [21:12:06] | high-rez: | Ahh ok. Yeah, I leacve my client running in a screen session so I didn't even notice. ;) |
| [21:12:14] | sphery: | anyway, if you haven't fixed your client to stagger auto-joins, you may need to |
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| [21:12:51] | high-rez: | Hmmf, I'll look into. |
| [21:12:55] | sphery: | things may have eventually worked out because enough channels had you banned that you were below the limit |
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| [21:13:13] | sphery: | or they may have up'ed the limit, too |
| [21:13:29] | sphery: | I didn't stick around #freenode long after I figured out what was happening |
| [21:13:56] | high-rez: | Yeah I'm guessing a lot of chans had the problem with such a low limit |
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| [21:36:54] | wagnerrp: | iamlindoro: doesnt the frontend automatically convert an old mysql.txt to a config.xml? |
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| [21:39:20] | high-rez: | sphery: So if I set the recording priority to my atsc card higher than on my qam card, then for the same channel on both sources, it'd prefer the atsc cardright? |
| [21:39:39] | Brad-D: | bought a second hd-pvr today! exciting :) |
| [21:39:54] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp, nope |
| [21:40:15] | iamlindoro: | it'll happily run config-xml free with just a mysql.txt... it'll only generate one with *nothing* there |
| [21:40:59] | wagnerrp: | ...wonder if i should put the mysql.txt reader back in the bindings |
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| [21:43:17] | sphery: | high-rez: if you want to change the order your cards are used, you should do it by ordering: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/419180#419180 (whole thread) . And see http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/418827#418827 for a case where a channel priority caused problems for a user (even though the rule's priority was 12, he didn't record the right showing). |
| [21:43:36] | sphery: | high-rez: and, of course, the obligatory: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/264034#264034 |
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| [21:47:01] | ripperda: | I have a frontend built out of an Aspire Revo (with Nvidia Ion). when I play back dvds encoded to mp4, playback is fine, but if I try to play the isos directly, the system struggles and there is a lot of screen corruption |
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| [21:47:24] | ripperda: | is this expected (the Atom/Ion combo can't handle decoding the isos)? |
| [21:47:48] | wagnerrp: | an Atom should handle dvd-bitrate mpeg2 just fine in software |
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| [21:47:59] | wagnerrp: | and the 9400M should work just fine with such content as well |
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| [21:48:24] | high-rez: | .. have you configured it to render vdpau? |
| [21:48:29] | ripperda: | ok, I know early rips had CSS issues, but I've fixed that and still seeing problems with freshly ripped isos. although I'll double check that |
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| [21:48:53] | ripperda: | I have configured vdpau via the tv-settings page (as the wiki suggests), but I'm not clear if that applies to dvd playback |
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| [21:53:23] | Smak: | I was thinking about buying an xbox as a front end. Do these work very well. Can I watch tv/ pause tv/ etc? |
| [21:53:38] | wagnerrp: | buying a original xbox? |
| [21:53:49] | Smak: | yea, they are like $40 on ebay |
| [21:54:01] | wagnerrp: | that piece of hardware that was antiquated when it came out 9 years ago? |
| [21:54:33] | Smak: | I was reading that some ppl use them as mythtv frontends |
| [21:55:24] | wagnerrp: | some people use them, yes |
| [21:55:34] | wagnerrp: | the sane of us just buy a new midrange pc |
| [21:55:46] | ripperda: | high-rez, is there someplace else to enable vdpau somewhere other than the tv settings -> playback profiles page? |
| [21:56:54] | wagnerrp: | a decent machine capable of use as a mythfrontend can be had for $200 retail |
| [21:57:14] | Smak: | I'm a bit poor right now, sadly |
| [21:57:25] | wagnerrp: | have any old PCs lying about? |
| [21:57:36] | wagnerrp: | theyre almost guaranteed to be a better frontend than an xbox |
| [21:57:45] | Smak: | I have an old ps2 :) |
| [21:57:55] | sphery: | Smak: it's a terrible choice for a mythtv frontend... We've actually just removed some XBox support code from Myth because it's such a bad choice. |
| [21:58:03] | sphery: | too limited in power |
| [21:58:06] | wagnerrp: | the problem is two fold |
| [21:58:15] | Smak: | Yea no worries |
| [21:58:20] | wagnerrp: | youre stuck with a marginal 733MHz P3 |
| [21:58:24] | Smak: | I was just dreaming on the cheap. :) |
| [21:58:30] | wagnerrp: | and youre stuck with a meager 64MB of memory (32MB?) |
| [21:58:59] | wagnerrp: | the former is barely enough to play standard def mpeg2/mpeg4asp recordings |
| [21:59:11] | Smak: | I'll just save up my money for the WinTV-HVR-1600 |
| [21:59:13] | wagnerrp: | probably insufficient to play dvds |
| [21:59:22] | wagnerrp: | and anything HD is completely out of the question |
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| [21:59:42] | wagnerrp: | beyond the fact that the lack of memory is going to make you swap heavily, and render the UI painfully slow |
| [22:00:21] | Smak: | yea no worries, I just have a tv in the bedroom. The main box is in the livingroom. Just wanted to add a frontend on the cheap |
| [22:00:55] | wagnerrp: | if you have no HD content, you can pick up a Atom board and a stick of memory for <<$100 |
| [22:01:17] | Smak: | Hmm, I might see what newegg as in that line |
| [22:01:25] | wagnerrp: | toss in a cheap power supply, or maybe get one of the DC powered atoms, and just stuff the whole thing caseless behind yor tv |
| [22:01:46] | wagnerrp: | if you need something more capable, the ION versions are going to be maybe $40 extra |
| [22:02:06] | Smak: | atom would be better. Doesn't use much power |
| [22:02:14] | wagnerrp: | ION == ATOM |
| [22:02:21] | wagnerrp: | just with an nvidia chipset rather than an intel one |
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| [22:02:53] | wagnerrp: | or for about the same price, you could pick up a cheap board, a cheap AMD dual core, and some memory |
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| [22:04:06] | wagnerrp: | basically, you do not want to run a frontend on less than 512MB of memory |
| [22:04:10] | wagnerrp: | 1GB is better if you can manage it |
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| [22:04:48] | jolaren: | Failed to run /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend 'stop' as user root. |
| [22:04:48] | jolaren: | The underlying authorization mechanism (sudo) does not allow you to run this program. Contact the system administrator. |
| [22:05:05] | Smak: | well I really need a second video capture card, so I think I'll grab the 1600 first when I get some extra cash |
| [22:05:13] | wagnerrp: | jolaren: better to contact your distro |
| [22:05:21] | wagnerrp: | mythtv does not support any init scripts |
| [22:05:39] | wagnerrp: | do you need a capture card? or do you need a digital tuner? |
| [22:06:01] | Smak: | I don't have digitial cable yet. too expensive. |
| [22:06:18] | Smak: | but I figure I might one day so I better get the hybrid card. |
| [22:06:32] | wagnerrp: | no, but you can toss up an antenna and get free OTA digital |
| [22:06:42] | ripperda: | hmm, I'm looking at the output of the mythfrontend logfile when trying to play an iso; I see a lot of errors along the lines of "frame CRC mismatch" and "frame sync error" |
| [22:06:52] | wagnerrp: | additionally, the HVR-1600 is not going to be able to capture anything your cableco encrypts |
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| [22:06:58] | ripperda: | also, "AFD Error: Unknown audio decoding error" |
| [22:07:06] | wagnerrp: | meaning even over digital cable, youre not likely to receive anything more than you would get over an antenna anyway |
| [22:07:16] | Smak: | seriously. |
| [22:07:29] | Smak: | that saddens me |
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| [22:07:47] | wagnerrp: | silicondust.com maintains lists of channel lineups, searchable by zip code |
| [22:08:07] | wagnerrp: | you can go there and see what you are likely to be able to tune over digital cable |
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| [22:08:15] | Smak: | nice on it now |
| [22:08:18] | Smak: | thanks alot |
| [22:09:48] | Smak: | So it seems as if I can forget about getthing the Sci-Fi and Discover channel over digital |
| [22:10:17] | wagnerrp: | very likely |
| [22:10:29] | Smak: | Oo but look I get the weather channel in HD. |
| [22:10:50] | Smak: | Oooo HD rain clouds! |
| [22:10:51] | wagnerrp: | cable companies usually encrypt anything not listed as 'must carry' |
| [22:11:05] | wagnerrp: | meaning you can only tune it with a STB, or with a cablecard tuner |
| [22:11:17] | Smak: | So I am stuck getting ther dvr then for digital? |
| [22:11:19] | wagnerrp: | and cablecard tuners will only work in windows MCE |
| [22:11:49] | wagnerrp: | because the cable company cant trust any other software to prevent you from using the media in whatever manner you wish |
| [22:12:26] | Smak: | Lets start a protest :) |
| [22:12:51] | wagnerrp: | the FCC has already written off cablecard as a failure |
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| [22:14:40] | Smak: | I wonder how tivo get around it. |
| [22:14:53] | Smak: | maybe they have a contract |
| [22:15:17] | ripperda: | tivo reencodes the decrypted av stream |
| [22:15:17] | wagnerrp: | they agreed to follow the license, and lock you out of your recordings |
| [22:15:41] | wagnerrp: | however tivo is a piece of hardware, not software |
| [22:15:43] | ripperda: | or else they contracted their product to the company that produces the data (satellite, etc) |
| [22:15:57] | ripperda: | wagnerrp, I would consider it both |
| [22:16:33] | wagnerrp: | its as much a piece of software as the ps3/xbox/wii firmware is |
| [22:16:44] | wagnerrp: | its pretty much worthless without the hardware |
| [22:16:50] | Smak: | well bottom line is myth is going to get any encryted channels |
| [22:16:56] | wagnerrp: | but sure, you can consider it a piece of software |
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| [22:17:09] | Smak: | *isn't |
| [22:17:54] | Smak: | Well thanks for all the great information. |
| [22:18:02] | wagnerrp: | Smak: mythtv can handle encrypted channels just fine in various DVB nations |
| [22:18:41] | Smak: | wagnerrp : until comcast and time warrner gets there, then they will be as screwed as us! :) |
| [22:18:50] | wagnerrp: | you cannot use cablecard with mythtv because the licensing agreements prevent such ability |
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| [22:21:24] | Smak: | well I'll just get a digital cable box, have the output go to my mythtv box, and use an IR blaster setup so they myth box can change channels on the cablebox when needed. Problem solved! :P |
| [22:22:01] | ZykoticK9: | I'm able to play DVDs using mplayer, but when "internal" is selected for DVD playback the screen flashes for a moment then returns to the menu, any ideas? |
| [22:24:02] | wagnerrp: | Smak: until they get legislation through to allow blocking of the analog outputs on those devices |
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| [22:27:20] | ripperda: | ah got it. silly css. I had it installed on my main front/back end for ripping, but needed on my additional frontend for playback |
| [22:27:52] | ripperda: | ZykoticK9, sounds like what I was running into. dvds ripped without css would crash immediately. playback without css would scramble |
| [22:28:04] | ripperda: | ZykoticK9, if you haven't installed libdvdcss yet, check out this page: |
| [22:28:09] | ZykoticK9: | ripperda, but mplayer works fine? |
| [22:28:10] | ripperda: | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs |
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| [22:28:26] | ripperda: | ZykoticK9, I hadn't tried mplayer, just was using mythvideo |
| [22:28:46] | ripperda: | you may have a different issue. I would check the output of dmesg and the frontend logfile to see what's happening |
| [22:28:53] | ripperda: | sounds like the player is crashing for some reason |
| [22:29:00] | ZykoticK9: | ripperda, i already have libdvdcss install correctly – it seems like a mythvideo specific issue |
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| [22:29:15] | ripperda: | ZykoticK9, ok, I just ran through lots of problems, so thought I'd suggest it |
| [22:29:24] | ZykoticK9: | ripperda, thanks man :) |
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| [22:30:32] | jolaren: | I can't search channels on mythtv.. When trying to hit the option it just pass by it |
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| [22:37:44] | jolaren: | I've installed the drivers according to mythtv instructions |
| [22:37:45] | jolaren: | dvb-usb: Hauppauge Nova-T 500 Dual DVB-T successfully initialized and connected. |
| [22:37:50] | jolaren: | where are the drivers located? |
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| [22:41:37] | ripperda: | if I'm sharing iso images between multiple frontends, do I need to redownload metadata on each frontend? unfortunately, I'm not using storage groups due to them not supporting isos |
| [22:42:06] | wagnerrp: | of all your data is in the same location in the file system on each frontend |
| [22:42:17] | wagnerrp: | mythvideo will only retain one copy of it in the database |
| [22:42:26] | wagnerrp: | so all metadata will be shared |
| [22:42:39] | wagnerrp: | note that mythvideo expects this will be the case |
| [22:42:48] | wagnerrp: | and if your data is in different locations |
| [22:42:59] | wagnerrp: | the frontends will end up deleting eachother's videos during a scan |
| [22:43:27] | ripperda: | ok, is the metadata held on the backend then? and I want all frontends to have the same nfs path to the data? |
| [22:44:06] | wagnerrp: | the metadata is held in the database, the backend never sees that data or even knows its there |
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| [22:44:39] | ripperda: | ah ok, the database is on the backend system, but the backend server doesn't mess with it? |
| [22:45:48] | wagnerrp: | the backend server knows nothing about those database tables |
| [22:46:05] | ripperda: | got it, ok |
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| [23:06:16] | oobe: | hallo everybody glad you could join us |
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| [23:19:30] | jolaren: | Failed opening the card when trying to view mythtv |
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| [23:29:38] | jolaren: | mythtv won't recognize my phoenix cardreader |
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| [23:34:38] | jolaren: | Can anyone please help me to get my cardreader recognized by mythtv? I moved my /dev/ttyusb000 to /dev/adapter1/frontend0 but didn't work |
| [23:35:41] | iamlindoro: | Myth has nothing to do with card readers |
| [23:35:56] | iamlindoro: | myth does not directly address or control card readers of any kind |
| [23:36:12] | iamlindoro: | all of that is handled by the OS/DVB drivers. You should ask in #linuxtv |
| [23:37:48] | jolaren: | Is that so? Thank you. |
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| [23:41:59] | flexy: | I just noticed (after a month or three :) that since the last time I've watched the .dv recordings I've made with my old camcorder, the sound is missing now. Sound is working if I play them with ffplay on the same box. Any ideas? |
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| [23:45:59] | jolaren: | If I'll turn it to a question which is related to mythtv then.. where's the config file from where mythtv reads the dvb cards or whatnot. It's not possible to choose from within mythtvsetup .. it chooses by default /usr/dev/adapter~ |
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| [23:49:13] | TauPan: | hm, for some reason I can't watch two shows at the same time via rtp... |
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| [23:50:12] | TauPan: | I have a few channels I get via rtp from my provider (for "free", i.e. without drm and included in the contract). |
| [23:50:26] | TauPan: | and I can watch two of them at the same time via vlc |
| [23:50:34] | flexy: | jolaren: there's no config file, AFAIK. All is in database, you really SHOULD be able to set it up at mythtv-setup |
| [23:51:35] | TauPan: | but if I try to tune in one of those channels while I'm recording a show, I get corrupt video, and the recording is corrupted as well. |
| [23:51:53] | TauPan: | (only with mythtv, not with vlc) |
| [23:52:09] | jolaren: | flexy; strange |
| [23:52:35] | flexy: | jolaren: are you using latest release or trunk? |
| [23:53:16] | mishehu: | ok, I'm a little confused here about editing recordings and then using mythtranscode to permanently delete what I marked for deletion. but after creating my cutlist, and running mythtranscode --mpeg2 --chanid ... --starttime ... --honorcutlist, I have ended up with a file which still has all the red sections in it |
| [23:53:54] | flexy: | jolaren: I can't remember older stuff... :) If you are on those, I can walk you thru the settings. (I have to do it here at the same time, can't remember...) |
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| [23:55:17] | jolaren: | flexy; I'm not sure, I used the guide found on ubuntu.com |
| [23:55:46] | flexy: | jolaren: on console, mythbackend --version |
| [23:56:02] | flexy: | there you should see the version you are running |
| [23:56:20] | jolaren: | flexy; MythTV Version : 22594 |
| [23:57:24] | flexy: | recent enough |
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