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Dagmar: |
Try some Google searches |
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Dagmar: |
I hear those work wonderfully |
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oobe: |
i use google to find pictures of naked celebrates |
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Dagmar: |
I'm just a little irked that people will so shamefacedly ask stuff on the level of "does it work with 110VAC wall outlets?" |
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Dagmar: |
Common sense or one google search could answer the question, and they've done neither |
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oobe: |
yea i understand |
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oobe: |
but seriously check it out http://www.gagreport.com/Funny_Pictures/sexy_megan-fox_3a.htm i can find pics of naked hot actress's |
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** sphery thinks he may have finally found a way to prevent users from doing partial restores... ** |
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sphery: |
I made the partial restore section of the backup page /far/ too long to read |
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sid3windr: |
you're assuming one reads -anything- before just beginning to do it? |
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sphery: |
heh, true |
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sphery: |
they'll still see the offset code lines that show how and will likely just do it without reading anything |
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justinp_home: |
oobe, good call – just double checked and it looks like it's only certain videos |
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sid3windr: |
:) |
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oobe: |
justinp_home, i had the same problem with one specific ac3 video reencoding the audio fixed it |
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oobe: |
fyi that same video played fine on different motherboard with different soundcard |
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justinp_home: |
looks like the only difference in the audio encoding between the two files I'm looking at (one working, one not) is interleaving alignment |
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justinp_home: |
aligned works, split across doesn't |
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oobe: |
heres i good one http://images.celebritymoviearchive.com/membe . . . 20S02E15.jpg |
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map7_: |
Every once in a while I get this error when running mythfrontend on my terminal: ICE default IO error handler doing an exit(), pid = 1655, errno = 32 |
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map7_: |
some people on the ubuntu forum have mentioned deleting the .ICEauthority file in the users home directory to fix it, is this the recommended approach? |
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sphery: |
that's the recommended workaround |
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oobe: |
once my backend died with that error message my xsession died also i never figured it out |
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oobe: |
but it never happened again eith |
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oobe: |
ether |
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justinp_home: |
Yep, that's it – just looked at another working file and another non-working file |
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sphery: |
map7_: until the application that's changing permissons on ~/.ICEauthority is fixed |
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justinp_home: |
The working files are all "aligned on interleaves", non-working are "split across interleaves" |
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sphery: |
map7_: in other words, there's an app that's doing Bad Things to that file and it breaks other apps |
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sphery: |
That app is /not/ Myth, though. |
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sid3windr: |
justinp_home: hmm, sounds like that's a bug or some missing support then.. ;/ |
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justinp_home: |
So, yeah, looks like I'll need to re-encode the audio for those non-working files |
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oobe: |
justinp_home, just simply re encoding audio with avidemux worked great with that issue |
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oobe: |
and to be honest all my other ac3 videos havent needed it |
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justinp_home: |
Yeah, I verified that I have some working AC3-encoded files, so that's not the problem; it's definitely the interleaving |
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oobe: |
i never new what the problem was |
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justinp_home: |
So, if I'm going to re-encode anyway, any advice on what to re-encode to? |
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kormoc: |
Any Danish folks around? |
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oobe: |
justinp_home, i tryed re encoding to mp3 but that didnt fix it it made it worse i then tried re encoding to ac3 and that worked |
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henrik__: |
kormoc, swedish if that helps ;) |
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kormoc: |
henrik__: just wondering if the danish krone was kr or Kr or KR |
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kormoc: |
wikipedia claims it's kr, but we have a customer claiming that everyone knows it's KR, figured I'd try to do a double check before changing the app :) |
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henrik__: |
Dkr |
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iamlindoro: |
kormoc, http://www.xe.com/symbols.php |
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iamlindoro: |
kr |
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iamlindoro: |
"This symbol is composed of two sequential characters: a lower case "k" followed by a lower case "r"." |
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iamlindoro: |
quite specific |
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henrik__: |
yes but i would prefere you use Dkr, like we use Skr :) |
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iamlindoro: |
Personal preference and what's right are toften two different things |
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iamlindoro: |
personally, I'd go by the currency site |
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henrik__: |
well sweden and denmark is quite close.. and we use kr to.. |
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henrik__: |
but it's diffrent exchange rate.. |
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iamlindoro: |
henrik__, In which case is SEK and DKK |
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henrik__: |
the danish even clames that the 3:rd largest city in sweden is a suburb to copenhagen |
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iamlindoro: |
the currency *sign* is kr |
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henrik__: |
yes |
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iamlindoro: |
not Dkr |
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henrik__: |
iamlindoro, your right! |
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kormoc: |
which is what we're asking bout, as it's a customer preference for what currency symbol they want to see, not what currency they exchange with or the like |
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kormoc: |
iamlindoro: aye, it's just one of those crazy customers who won't accept that we're going with the banking standard for the symbols and throwing up a storm |
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iamlindoro: |
GDIAF? |
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kormoc: |
yeah, just wanted to make sure I was right first ;) |
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henrik__: |
lycka till |
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dashcloud: |
I'm at a complete loss trying to restore my backup file onto my fresh install- I get this message: ERROR: The specified backup file cannot be read. Invalid backup filename, stopped at /usr/share/mythtv/mythconverg_restore.pl line 831. |
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oobe: |
check the paths |
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dashcloud: |
I've checked the paths |
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sphery: |
dashcloud: you're not following instructions |
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sphery: |
dashcloud: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Database_Backup_an . . . _backup_file |
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sphery: |
what argument(s) does that command show that yours doesn't? |
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sphery: |
:) |
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sphery: |
dashcloud: it is one or more missing arguments, right? |
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sphery: |
either --directory or --filename (or both)? |
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dashcloud: |
I didn't think so, but let me check again |
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sphery: |
what was the exact command you ran? |
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sphery: |
(command line) |
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dashcloud: |
/usr/share/mythtv/mythconverg_restore.pl --verbose --directory /var/lib/mythtv/db_backups/ --filename mythconverg-1244–20091130191423.sql |
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sphery: |
ok, that looks good |
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sphery: |
and what does the following give: ls -l /var/lib/mythtv/db_backups/mythconverg-1244–20091130191423.sql |
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dashcloud: |
-rwx------ 1 root mythtv 146735205 |
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sphery: |
and are you running mythconverg_restore.pl as root? if not: sudo chmod 644 /var/lib/mythtv/db_backups/mythconverg-1244–20091130191423.sql |
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dashcloud: |
I am not running the script as root- is that the recommended way? |
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sphery: |
also, note that the backup and restore scripts can both work with gzip'ed backups (so you don't have to gunzip before restoring) |
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sphery: |
dashcloud: actually, I highly recommend not running it as root |
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sphery: |
it's just that the file you're using is only readable by root |
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sphery: |
so change its permissions with the chmod I gave you |
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dashcloud: |
that would explain a lot |
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sphery: |
:) |
Error at /opt/beirdobot/share/beirdobot/web/includes/utils.php, line 120:
htmlentities() [function.htmlentities]: Invalid multibyte sequence in argument
Details:
datetime: 2010-12-03 18:54:14 (UTC)
errornum: 2
error type: Warning
error string: htmlentities() [<a href='function.htmlentities'>function.htmlentities</a>]: Invalid multibyte sequence in argument
filename: /opt/beirdobot/share/beirdobot/web/includes/utils.php
error line: 120
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dashcloud: |
which .sql file creates the proper database? I dropped the whole database, and thought I created a new one with mc.sql, but the restore script says it can't connect to the database, and Error: database doesn't exist |
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sphery: |
mc.sql will create the database |
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sphery: |
but it also sets a password for the mythtv user |
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sphery: |
so if you had a different one, it may have changed it |
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sphery: |
it does: GRANT ALL ON mythconverg.* TO mythtv@localhost IDENTIFIED BY "mythtv"; |
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sphery: |
so you'd need to do: GRANT ALL ON mythconverg.* TO mythtv@localhost IDENTIFIED BY "mypassword"; |
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sphery: |
or possibly revoke the localhost permission |
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wagnerrp: |
wow... two screensaver viruses found for ubuntu |
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sphery: |
(though the former is probably better) |
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sphery: |
wagnerrp: what? |
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wagnerrp: |
its finally happened, linux has gotten sufficiently common on the desktop that its no longer 'secure from viruses' |
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sphery: |
heh, it never was |
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sphery: |
just wasn't worth the effort |
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wagnerrp: |
two screensaver .debs were found to install a program that auto-updated itself and provided a botnet for DDOSing |
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wagnerrp: |
sphery: yeah, that whole security through obscurity thing |
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sphery: |
it's Apple's Mac OS X that was always "secure from viruses", because only a company like Apple could ever make something that good |
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sphery: |
so were these in the official repo or in some 3rd-party place? |
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wagnerrp: |
3rd party |
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wagnerrp: |
gnome-look.org |
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sphery: |
ah |
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sphery: |
although I dread the inevitable, "Now those smug Linux users see that Linux isn't any more secure than Windows," I'm glad to see some out there. |
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sphery: |
After all, it will help the people who actually believed that Linux was secure to understand that there's no such thing as a system that's secure from malicious code |
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jblack: |
I think you're falling into black and white thinking. |
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sphery: |
(save a system whose code can never be updated) |
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map7_: |
My diskless remote frontend takes 37seconds to start the mythfrontend, is this normal? does the diskless terminals use the servers processing power? |
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wagnerrp: |
yes, no |
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sphery: |
map7_: I'm guessing that you have a CD or DVD or flash card or ... in a removeable drive |
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map7_: |
sphery no I pxe boot |
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wagnerrp: |
no, 37 seconds isnt far off |
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sphery: |
which is also why it may start in a different plugin |
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sphery: |
map7_: I mean the drive on the server |
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sphery: |
s/server/frontend/ |
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sphery: |
you don't have any removeable media on the frontend/ |
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map7_: |
the server is a Q9550 with 2GB ram and 1TB disk, |
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map7_: |
no there is no removable media on the frontend |
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map7_: |
no hard drive either |
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sphery: |
then it's likely the image cache checks and stuff |
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sphery: |
so it would be normal (for net boot) |
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wagnerrp: |
erm... 37 seconds from the power button? |
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sphery: |
wagnerrp has actually done net boot, so trust him more than me |
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wagnerrp: |
or from running 'mythfrontend' |
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map7_: |
37seconds from running mythfrontend |
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wagnerrp: |
oh, that is a long time |
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map7_: |
2minutes in total from the power button |
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wagnerrp: |
something is wrong there |
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map7_: |
on the server mythfrontend takes 7 seconds |
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wagnerrp: |
37 seconds is a decent time from power button to fully functional |
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map7_: |
which is acceptable |
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wagnerrp: |
even 7 seconds is a bit long to start the frontend |
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map7_: |
it does seem to sit there doing nothing for some time. |
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sphery: |
and really no removeable media at all |
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sphery: |
or card readers or ... connected |
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wagnerrp: |
hmm... one machine does it in 10 seconds, another in 3 |
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map7_: |
sphery there is no removable media in the frontend, the frontend does have a DVD drive and card reader with nothing in it. |
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wagnerrp: |
another in 2 |
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sphery: |
the card reader with nothing in it may have something to do with it |
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sphery: |
see http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/7135 |
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wagnerrp: |
the 10s one is the only one that actually has a hard drive |
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wagnerrp: |
go figure |
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wagnerrp: |
map7_: is this a machine with a persistent file system? |
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dashcloud: |
sphery: thank you very much for your help- I finally got it to restore the database |
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sphery: |
dashcloud: great... enjoy |
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wagnerrp: |
youre not running a read only NFS path with an aufs ramdisk are you? |
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map7_: |
wagnerrp it creates a r/w overlay directory in /var/cache/mythbuntu-diskless/overlay |
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wagnerrp: |
on the server? |
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map7_: |
yes |
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map7_: |
/etc/exports: /var/cache/mythbuntu-diskless/overlay/ *(rw,no_root_squash,async,no_subtree_check) |
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map7_: |
other programs start fast and the UI seems very fast when moving windows around. |
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map7_: |
maybe it's the theme i'm using, 'mythcenter (widescreen)' |
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map7_: |
wagnerrp which theme do you use on your 2second machines |
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wagnerrp: |
graphite@720p is the 3-second, mythcenter@480p is the 2 second |
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wagnerrp: |
although it may have something to do with a copy of mythfrontend already running |
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wagnerrp: |
and all of the shared libs already in memory |
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dashcloud: |
the new setup screens are really nice, and bring up a question: does the Test Decryptability option in DVB scan do anything for ClearQAM people? |
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** skd5aner is thinking about installing miro and playing with mirobridge ** |
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wagnerrp: |
new setup screens? |
| [02:12:36] |
dashcloud: |
yeah- I'm re-running the myth-backend setup, and in .22 it's changed from .21 |
| [02:12:38] |
skd5aner: |
I know mirobridge has to be installed on a backend, but I'm assuming that I would still need to use miro via a UI, correct? |
| [02:13:01] |
wagnerrp: |
skd5aner: miro still runs on its own and grabs whatever content you tell it to |
| [02:13:25] |
wagnerrp: |
mirobridge just then symlinks the content into your storage groups, and makes the corresponding channel/recording entries in the database |
| [02:13:56] |
skd5aner: |
wagnerrp: that's what I thought based on the wiki... I'm just figuring if it makes since to put it on my SBE/FE or on the MBE, but I don't really utilize my MBE for any GUI ops |
| [02:14:13] |
RDV_Linux: |
skd5aner: The only part of the Miro UI that you need is to select the channels you want to subscribe to and to change settings like the folder that Miro doenloads to. |
| [02:14:23] |
wagnerrp: |
it makes sense to put it wherever your storage is |
| [02:14:59] |
skd5aner: |
wagnerrp: storage is on MBE, but I use NFS to the SBE/FE... |
| [02:15:19] |
wagnerrp: |
you can create symlinks over NFS just fine |
| [02:15:38] |
wagnerrp: |
but you may want to enable the master backend override, to make the MBE stream all content |
| [02:15:42] |
wagnerrp: |
if it has all the hard drives |
| [02:15:58] |
skd5aner: |
RDV_Linux: thx, so really any "usage" of Miro and subscription add/delete/modify would take place within Miro, but all synching and watching happens between mirobridge and myth |
| [02:16:22] |
skd5aner: |
wagnerrp: master backend override is enabled :) |
| [02:16:36] |
RDV_Linux: |
skd5aner: That is it exactly |
| [02:17:06] |
skd5aner: |
however, I still use NFS for mythvideo because I still rely on ISOs |
| [02:17:29] |
skd5aner: |
so, recordings are streamed, but videos aren't yet :( |
| [02:18:22] |
skd5aner: |
cool guys – well, I think I'll start messing around with it in the next couple days. Looks interesting! Although, I've got enough recordings schedules right now to give me plenty of content to watch, but want to see what Miro has to offer |
| [02:18:41] |
RDV_Linux: |
skd5aner: Mirobridge works with or without storage groups. |
| [02:18:49] |
skd5aner: |
thanks wagnerrp and RDV_Linux |
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| [02:23:12] |
dashcloud: |
does the Test Decryptability option do anything for ClearQAM users? |
| [02:24:07] |
Dagmar: |
You would need to decrypt ClearQAM data, why? |
| [02:24:24] |
wagnerrp: |
the only thing it could do would be to check for streams improperly marked encrypted |
| [02:24:33] |
map7_: |
wagnerrp here is the output I get when starting mythfrontend: http://pastie.org/736672 |
| [02:24:48] |
wagnerrp: |
so if youre not missing any channels, its not worth the try |
| [02:24:51] |
map7_: |
I've put in how long the pause is between the slow parts |
| [02:25:27] |
wagnerrp: |
not of much use unless you crank up the verbosity to see what its actually doing |
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| [02:26:31] |
Dagmar: |
I just drive two counties over and look for old people at a crafts fair |
| [02:26:34] |
Dagmar: |
wrong chan |
| [02:26:59] |
wagnerrp: |
well now i really want some context for that |
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| [02:27:20] |
wagnerrp: |
dagmar trawling for old people in areas where no one would recognize him |
| [02:27:45] |
Dagmar: |
Actually, we were looking for someone who could/would spin some cat hair into yarn |
| [02:27:58] |
Dagmar: |
Yes, I said "cat hair" |
| [02:27:59] |
wagnerrp: |
to be honest.... i dont know which is more disturbing |
| [02:28:24] |
sphery: |
map7_: my suggestion is to update to current 0.22-fixes |
| [02:29:01] |
Dagmar: |
wagnerrp: Short story, an exgf left her persian/maine coon mix cat at her mom's for about two weeks while she went on vacation |
| [02:29:02] |
wagnerrp: |
sphery: proto version 50, thats fairly current |
| [02:29:07] |
Dagmar: |
Her mom managed to brush this sheepcat |
| [02:29:20] |
Dagmar: |
When she returned, she was given the cat, and a two gallon bag of cat hair |
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