| Monday, November 16th, 2009, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:51] | michaelm: | Maybe you should offer to host thetvdb.com at your datacenter Dagmar. |
| [00:01:29] | Dagmar: | We normally run only two 21A circuits to each rack, but we make damn sure people can't go over that |
| [00:01:45] | Dagmar: | There's never going to be melted wires here. |
| [00:02:07] | Dagmar: | michaelm: If they were perhaps looking for a cure for cancer in TV programming, there's a lab that might pick them up |
| [00:02:09] | Dagmar: | This is an .edu |
| [00:02:36] | Sedorox: | it could be that the servers that ended up going offline.. weren't configured right for a reboot.. so when they came up.. they were more or less broken |
| [00:02:38] | wagnerrp: | ive recently become very interested in some supermicro chassis that holds some four dual quad systems in a 2U case |
| [00:02:41] | Sedorox: | or other HW could have failed with it |
| [00:02:53] | Dagmar: | It sounds like these jokers were running stuff off wall power or somethign |
| [00:03:08] | wagnerrp: | the concept that we could replace our entire existing compute capacity with a half-height rack |
| [00:03:09] | michaelm: | Cancer patients need TV. |
| [00:03:19] | Dagmar: | Sedorox: http://forums.thetvdb.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&a . . . art=10#p9322 |
| [00:03:23] | wagnerrp: | but i cant imagine what we would have to do to cool the thing |
| [00:03:31] | Dagmar: | Seriously, they're talking about having to put *in* a new circuit |
| [00:03:37] | Dagmar: | You dont' do that unless you melted something |
| [00:03:54] | wagnerrp: | i dont even know how you would melt a circuit |
| [00:03:58] | Sedorox: | unless they are just that retarded (which I wouldn't put it pass them) it's REALLY hard to run a blade center (the ones I've seen are 4 cords, probably 30 or 60 amps each) |
| [00:03:59] | Dagmar: | wagnerrp: Put it in a room with dedicated air-conditioning? :) |
| [00:04:13] | Sedorox: | Dagmar: could be just to turn up the other machines |
| [00:04:28] | Dagmar: | Sedorox: doubt it |
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| [00:04:34] | wagnerrp: | unless you kept tripping your 15A breaker trying to power the thing, so you replaced it with a 50A one on your 20A rated power lines |
| [00:04:50] | Dagmar: | Typically you go out of business when you prioritize new provisioning over existing colo units |
| [00:04:50] | hednod: | anyone gotten mythtv to work over pulseaudio, and still be able to do AC3/DTS pass through? |
| [00:05:06] | hednod: | the pulseaudio portion already works, mplayer does passthrough flawlessly |
| [00:05:14] | Sedorox: | maybe someone replaced the breaker and outlet to go from a 20amp to a 30/60 amp... and blew the lines |
| [00:05:17] | Sedorox: | that coulda been fun |
| [00:06:14] | wagnerrp: | for some reason i thought pulseaudio couldnt do passthrough, and had no intention of adding that capability |
| [00:06:55] | michaelm: | The other big possibility is that they tripped the breaker, and they aren't going to plug everything back in and power it up again (because the breaker will just trip again) until they upgrade the power. |
| [00:06:56] | Dagmar: | Surely they didn't just find the cables necessary to plug the blade server straight into a pair of CDUs or something |
| [00:07:24] | Dagmar: | michaelm: Non-retarded people would simply remove the blades that pushed things into the red from the equation and turn stuff back on |
| [00:07:32] | wagnerrp: | so rather than just unplugging the blade until they do, theyre going to make everyone else suffer? |
| [00:07:43] | Dagmar: | Any idiot should be able to handle that in less than an hour. |
| [00:08:00] | Sedorox: | wagnerrp: as said, it seems the blew the lines running to the cage |
| [00:08:05] | Sedorox: | i.e. there is no power to the server at all |
| [00:08:18] | Sedorox: | not simply pulling the new boxes.. but needing new physical lines ran |
| [00:08:23] | wagnerrp: | Sedorox: see michaelm's comment |
| [00:08:45] | michaelm: | Maybe thetvdb isn't the highest priority in that chassis. Maybe the other customer is running, and thetvdb is down. |
| [00:08:53] | Sedorox: | well yea, but unlikely, unless they really don't know what they are doing |
| [00:08:56] | Dagmar: | Doubt it |
| [00:09:26] | wagnerrp: | Sedorox: well considering the other possibility is they melted their power lines, do you think they know what theyre doing? |
| [00:09:27] | Dagmar: | That's like saying "A housecat and an elephant were crossing a bridge, and due to the immense weight it collapsed. Someone should put that fucking cat on a diet." |
| [00:09:40] | iamlindoro: | Read the forum topic on the issue, they're using it as an opportunity to move to another data center |
| [00:10:12] | iamlindoro: | they swapped DNS over to the new location, but they need to get in and move the hardware |
| [00:10:16] | iamlindoro: | so, tomorrowish |
| [00:10:35] | wagnerrp: | iamlindoro: they were only going to go ahead with the move if power wasnt going to come back online until monday |
| [00:10:58] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp, and then he followed up and said they would |
| [00:11:08] | iamlindoro: | " |
| [00:11:09] | iamlindoro: | Just a followup for everyone. He's not yet been able to get access to the co-loc, but he's working on it. I've made the DNS changes required to get the site moved ASAP as soon as possible, but he'll still need to get in there to do it. Unfortunately this means Sunday or Monday at this point. I know it's inconveniencing people, but we've done all we can do to this point." |
| [00:11:12] | wagnerrp: | ah, must have missed that one |
| [00:11:40] | Bigsheff1: | just installed on 9.10 and cant get the scan channels to work in fact the whole page is scrambled! any help |
| [00:11:47] | wagnerrp: | i figured that meant access to the coloc its currently in |
| [00:11:54] | wagnerrp: | as in they couldnt get access to their hardware to move it |
| [00:12:25] | michaelm: | Bigsheff1: Are you trying to scan digital channels, or analog? |
| [00:12:25] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp, right, but the DNS change suggests the move is happening |
| [00:12:41] | Bigsheff1: | uk, digi |
| [00:12:56] | wagnerrp: | what whole page? |
| [00:13:10] | wagnerrp: | you mean everything you scanned was listed as encrypted? |
| [00:13:14] | michaelm: | Is it the mythtv setup page that is all scrambled? |
| [00:13:22] | Bigsheff1: | yes can navigate but it skips the scan section |
| [00:13:38] | wagnerrp: | have you used mythtv before? |
| [00:13:57] | michaelm: | So the page is fine you just can't select the scan button? |
| [00:14:23] | Bigsheff1: | just a bit, and yes cnat click on button |
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| [00:14:43] | iamlindoro: | Probably attempting to scan with an analog tuner |
| [00:14:54] | iamlindoro: | can't do that ATM |
| [00:15:03] | iamlindoro: | oh, sorry, see scrollback |
| [00:15:07] | wagnerrp: | so you went through all three steps properly? add a card, add a video source, attach video source to tuner input on card, before trying to scan? |
| [00:15:11] | iamlindoro: | anyway, means you haven't connected a listings source then |
| [00:15:13] | Bigsheff1: | no probs |
| [00:15:40] | wagnerrp: | you havent accidentally tried using the analog size of your digital card right? |
| [00:15:47] | Bigsheff1: | hang on let me just check that |
| [00:15:51] | wagnerrp: | you added as a dvb card, rather than a v4l one? |
| [00:16:19] | Bigsheff1: | yes works in vlc but would like to use myth |
| [00:16:25] | michaelm: | I doubt plugging a cable in to the analog connector would disable the channel scan button... |
| [00:16:44] | iamlindoro: | michaelm, Setting up your card as an analog card would... |
| [00:16:56] | wagnerrp: | Bigsheff1: im saying most digital tuner cards also have an analog framegrabber |
| [00:17:11] | wagnerrp: | and they show up to linux as two separate cards, even though you may only have one installed |
| [00:17:29] | wagnerrp: | if youre trying to use the analog side, the scan button will be disabled |
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| [00:21:54] | Bigsheff1: | added card but unable to get video source? |
| [00:22:38] | wagnerrp: | well this is amusing.... http://forums.thetvdb.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2180 |
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| [00:25:33] | kormoc: | wagnerrp: I'd say I just lost some more faith in humanity, but it's been long gone |
| [00:26:11] | wagnerrp: | now lose your faith again, but this time in russian! |
| [00:26:19] | Bigsheff1: | me stupid look's on wrong page now scanning me thinks i got analogue, cant wait till switch over here |
| [00:26:49] | kormoc: | ??? ???? ? ???????????? ???????? |
| [00:26:52] | wagnerrp: | arent you on BT? english ISP? |
| [00:27:03] | wagnerrp: | you should have plenty of digital channels to access |
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| [00:28:17] | Dagmar: | Time to go back to shooting stupid rooskies |
| [00:29:12] | Bigsheff1: | yes on bt but not prepared to pay for tv via bt |
| [00:29:43] | wagnerrp: | but you should have free broadcast digital available (DVB-T) |
| [00:30:22] | Bigsheff1: | thats what i got one haup* digi pci card |
| [00:35:00] | Bigsheff1: | got tv but no sound |
| [00:39:23] | Bigsheff1: | got it forgot to increase sound |
| [00:39:28] | Bigsheff1: | me stupid |
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| [00:42:58] | groogs: | i'm having trouble tuning some analog (us-cable) channels I know I should get (was working this PVR-150 in another machine, on myth 0.20/21). this is myth 0.22. how do i go about debugging this? |
| [00:44:01] | wagnerrp: | how are you having trouble tuning? |
| [00:44:11] | wagnerrp: | i mean you should just specify a channel, and the card goes to it |
| [00:44:17] | wagnerrp: | are you getting static on those channels? |
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| [00:46:25] | mattwj2002: | hi room |
| [00:46:29] | mattwj2002: | I have a question |
| [00:46:43] | wagnerrp: | cant help until you ask it.... |
| [00:46:53] | iamlindoro: | you should ask the channel instead, though |
| [00:47:07] | groogs: | wagnerrp: yes, just static |
| [00:47:08] | mattwj2002: | does anyone know is there is a conflict with running mythtv and asterisk on the same box? It seems to me there was at some point |
| [00:47:26] | wagnerrp: | should be none |
| [00:47:32] | groogs: | mattwj2002: i did for about 4 years, with 0 problems |
| [00:47:36] | wagnerrp: | groogs: are you sure you get those channels? |
| [00:47:56] | wagnerrp: | i mean you can stick a tv on the cable/antenna and tune them? |
| [00:47:59] | groogs: | wagnerrp: 100%. i've used this exact card to get them before, and i plugged the cable directly into a regular TV and verified i get them |
| [00:48:14] | mattwj2002: | thanks groogs |
| [00:48:42] | wagnerrp: | are you possibly using the wrong frequency table? |
| [00:49:31] | groogs: | wagnerrp: i have it set to us-cable |
| [00:49:42] | groogs: | which should be right |
| [00:49:48] | wagnerrp: | should be, yes |
| [00:50:38] | Dagmar: | wagnerrp: Hopefully no one will get pissed that I created an account there just to cite explicitly WHY one doesn't translate names |
| [00:51:16] | wagnerrp: | no one of any consequence |
| [00:51:35] | Dagmar: | Someone should smack some manners into that damn roosky tho |
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| [00:52:09] | Dagmar: | Antiarc: Comcast? |
| [00:52:13] | Dagmar: | *sigh* |
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| [00:59:59] | Dibblah: | ... Unless, of course, you're Anglicising Russian names. That's perfectly OK. ;) |
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| [01:15:57] | mersault: | Anyone heard any new from the tvdb folks? Was it just a matter of lots of people finally upgrading to 0.22 and just getting slashdotted off the face of the planet? |
| [01:16:41] | iamlindoro: | haven't you asked for each of the last three days? |
| [01:16:42] | wagnerrp: | http://forums.thetvdb.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&a . . . art=10#p9322 |
| [01:16:49] | iamlindoro: | They'll be back up tomorrow |
| [01:17:07] | mersault: | ah, was unaware the forums were still up. |
| [01:17:08] | wagnerrp: | outage at their data center |
| [01:20:23] | mersault: | ouch. that sucks. though, reading through this forum post, that's a pretty poor data center that blows TWO circuits on 9 blades. glad to hear they're moving to a new one. |
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| [01:22:20] | Captain_Murdoch: | iamlindoro, I'm around not but not for long. got sick after working overnight out of town last wed/thurs and have hardly been on a computer since. trying to get rested up so I can go back to work tomorrow. |
| [01:22:25] | Captain_Murdoch: | s/not/now/ |
| [01:24:58] | iamlindoro: | Captain_Murdoch, Meh, it's sort of a moot point at this point, but: http://www.fecitfacta.com/simplestorage.png |
| [01:25:10] | iamlindoro: | and |
| [01:25:11] | iamlindoro: | http://www.fecitfacta.com/simplesetupexample.ogg |
| [01:25:16] | Captain_Murdoch: | just saw that actually, was looking in scrollback. |
| [01:25:25] | Captain_Murdoch: | I did look at most of your images posted. |
| [01:25:27] | Captain_Murdoch: | looks good. |
| [01:25:27] | iamlindoro: | might check out the video, just generated that a bit ago |
| [01:25:33] | iamlindoro: | yeah, but useless now |
| [01:25:47] | Captain_Murdoch: | ok, I'll take a look. |
| [01:26:11] | iamlindoro: | yeah, enjoy... what might have been :) I'll just hope that someday we get something simple enough mortals can use ;) |
| [01:29:19] | Captain_Murdoch: | looks good in my opinion. /me goes to read the other relevant scrollback. :( |
| [01:29:26] | iamlindoro: | heh |
| [01:29:41] | iamlindoro: | I've said my piece, in scrollback and elsewhere |
| [01:29:55] | freddo123: | hey was wondering if there is a way to schedule a recording to record a program on any channel, but not HD? |
| [01:29:59] | iamlindoro: | Not going to beg anyone to let me fix it :) |
| [01:30:44] | Captain_Murdoch: | how can we setup the backend in a web interface if the backend isn't running yet? |
| [01:30:55] | ** iamlindoro shrugs ** | |
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| [01:31:34] | Captain_Murdoch: | if we have to have the backend be able to startup unconfigured and reconfigurable on the fly via the web interface, /me thinks that will be a long time before it is written. |
| [01:31:49] | iamlindoro: | Sort of my conclusion |
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| [01:46:26] | wagnerrp: | freddo123: there is no canned solution, however you can set up an advanced recording using your own sql query |
| [01:47:10] | freddo123: | wagnerrp: okay thanks! |
| [01:47:41] | wagnerrp: | thats only an option in the frontend, mythweb does not offer that capability |
| [01:49:49] | freddo123: | If I set it to record on multiple channels using multipe entries, will it be smart enough to only record one, by detecting dups? |
| [01:50:19] | freddo123: | so I can specify the 4 SD channels in 4 recording schedules. and leave out the HD one? |
| [01:53:05] | wagnerrp: | better option would be to check for the 'hdtv' field |
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| [01:53:30] | wagnerrp: | assuming your listings provider can be trusted to set that correctly, of course |
| [01:53:44] | wagnerrp: | why dont you want the HD copy? |
| [01:54:26] | wagnerrp: | if you dont intend to keep it, then file space shouldnt be much of a problem |
| [01:54:50] | wagnerrp: | if you do intend to keep it, recording the digital/hd copy and transcoding down will yield much better quality than the analog copy |
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| [01:57:18] | freddo123: | mostly space, The same show is on 3–4 channels all at that same time, 1 channel is HD. But I don't believe the show will be transmitted in HD anyway |
| [01:59:14] | wagnerrp: | HAH |
| [01:59:34] | wagnerrp: | logrotate took those 2.6GB of myth logs, down to a 100MB bzip |
| [02:00:35] | Dagmar: | Text... it r compressable |
| [02:00:53] | wagnerrp: | i should probably just delete it, not like im ever going to read it |
| [02:01:21] | AndrewNC: | what causes this: NVP(0): prebuffering pause |
| [02:01:40] | wagnerrp: | a very wide range of scenarios |
| [02:02:08] | wagnerrp: | could be network interference, could be file system issues, could be system load issues, could be.... |
| [02:02:39] | AndrewNC: | so something is choking the system... |
| [02:02:44] | wagnerrp: | its a very non-descript error |
| [02:02:44] | AndrewNC: | does it refer to audio or video? |
| [02:02:55] | wagnerrp: | it refers to data |
| [02:02:56] | AndrewNC: | it is flooding my frontend log |
| [02:03:16] | wagnerrp: | its having trouble buffering the data stream containing both audio and video |
| [02:03:26] | wagnerrp: | are you having playback problems? |
| [02:03:57] | AndrewNC: | yeah, choppy video... might be a signal issue |
| [02:04:33] | wagnerrp: | not going to be a reception/recording/signal issue |
| [02:04:47] | wagnerrp: | unless its a damaged recording, that the player is struggling on |
| [02:04:56] | AndrewNC: | no? hmm |
| [02:05:07] | AndrewNC: | wouldn't a reception issue = damaged stream ? |
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| [02:05:27] | wagnerrp: | do you see significant digital artifacting? |
| [02:05:32] | AndrewNC: | 1080 dvb-c |
| [02:05:45] | wagnerrp: | its not dvb-c |
| [02:05:49] | AndrewNC: | no, but I'm using vdpau which doesn't react the same as xv |
| [02:07:02] | AndrewNC: | correction, i'm seeing weirdness, but being vdpau I'm not sure it corresonds to signal artifacts |
| [02:09:54] | wagnerrp: | does mythtv need to be HUP'd when rotating log files? |
| [02:09:59] | Dagmar: | Oh sweet. |
| [02:10:13] | Dagmar: | Das Keyboard has a new model for the modern internets |
| [02:10:15] | Dagmar: | http://thereifixedit.files.wordpress.com/2009 . . . 98347737.jpg |
| [02:10:53] | wagnerrp: | the wiki says yes |
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| [02:12:04] | wagnerrp: | is there some context to this? |
| [02:12:14] | Josh__: | Haha, apparently Comcast isnt carrying the ota DT2 feed for KUHT (PBS) |
| [02:12:16] | wagnerrp: | i see the smilies, but the letter layout makes no sense |
| [02:12:24] | wagnerrp: | and the broked keys.... |
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| [02:14:31] | jedix: | hello |
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| [02:14:54] | jedix: | I'm wondering what refresh I should pump out so that my tv is okay with 24 or 30 frames |
| [02:15:25] | [R]: | jedix: 120 |
| [02:15:53] | wagnerrp: | will modern cards even do 1920x1080@120hz? |
| [02:16:06] | [R]: | probably not |
| [02:16:27] | wagnerrp: | just set it at 60fps, and dont worry about it |
| [02:16:28] | iamlindoro: | and the TVs don't take 120Hz input |
| [02:16:42] | iamlindoro: | they take 24p/30 and step it up to 120 |
| [02:16:58] | jedix: | okay |
| [02:17:01] | jedix: | so it's at 60 |
| [02:17:02] | wagnerrp: | does mythtv even support changing refresh rate based off the video content? |
| [02:17:07] | iamlindoro: | yeah |
| [02:17:20] | wagnerrp: | i mean i know you can set an alternate video output resolution |
| [02:17:54] | jedix: | so I could get it to change the refresh? |
| [02:18:03] | jedix: | based on the video info? |
| [02:18:04] | iamlindoro: | yes (.22 or greater) |
| [02:18:13] | jedix: | hehe |
| [02:18:21] | jedix: | how do I check that |
| [02:18:24] | jedix: | it's been a while |
| [02:18:49] | iamlindoro: | Utilities/Setup->Setup->Appearance, page 3 |
| [02:18:54] | wagnerrp: | well it hasnt been a while, apparently that setting has only existed for a couple weeks (the age of 0.22) |
| [02:19:01] | iamlindoro: | "Seperate modes for gui and tv playback" |
| [02:19:32] | iamlindoro: | then set Rate to "Any" |
| [02:19:35] | wagnerrp: | so should i take it you had no desire to theme mythflix? |
| [02:19:43] | jedix: | well |
| [02:19:51] | jedix: | my videos are all in media |
| [02:20:03] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp, Amusingly, I did a week or so ago |
| [02:21:07] | jedix: | so it'd have to detect on the video codec or something |
| [02:21:11] | jedix: | does it support that? |
| [02:21:26] | wagnerrp: | mythtv has its own internal player |
| [02:21:37] | wagnerrp: | as such, it has all the data it needs to change the playback rate |
| [02:22:03] | iamlindoro: | right, the auto-refresh setting will only work for the internal player |
| [02:22:09] | jedix: | but all the videos are being handled by mplayer |
| [02:22:38] | wagnerrp: | is there any specific need for mplayer? |
| [02:22:42] | wagnerrp: | or do you just have it carried over as the old default? |
| [02:22:43] | iamlindoro: | so stop using mplayer |
| [02:23:12] | wagnerrp: | Internal has actually been the recommended for several years, but it only got set as the default in 0.22 |
| [02:24:23] | jedix: | I'm beginning to question how old my myth is |
| [02:25:32] | jedix: | 0.21 |
| [02:25:38] | jedix: | perhaps I should update? |
| [02:25:39] | iamlindoro: | 18 months |
| [02:25:58] | iamlindoro: | at least, that's when that release happened (although I guess closer to 19–20 months now) |
| [02:26:06] | wagnerrp: | you should consider updating to 0.22-fixes |
| [02:26:29] | wagnerrp: | which may be a good opportunity to update your distro as well |
| [02:26:56] | wagnerrp: | take a look through the release notes on the wiki, and the mythvideo transition guide, before you do so |
| [02:27:21] | mangus580: | the netflix module is about useless isnt it? |
| [02:27:34] | wagnerrp: | its for managing your netflix mail queue |
| [02:27:43] | wagnerrp: | mythtv will likely never have access to anything beyond that |
| [02:27:45] | mangus580: | mail queue? |
| [02:27:53] | mangus580: | oh the shipping queue |
| [02:27:56] | mangus580: | I cant even figure that out |
| [02:27:57] | mangus580: | LOL |
| [02:28:03] | wagnerrp: | mailing DVDs to you? netflix's primary original business? |
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| [02:30:33] | mangus580: | is there more than the one theme for a 4:3 screen ratio? |
| [02:31:17] | wagnerrp: | for 0.22? not currently |
| [02:31:21] | jedix: | hehe, I was asking that a few years ago about 16:9 |
| [02:31:43] | mangus580: | figured as much |
| [02:32:26] | wagnerrp: | apparently the current themers all use widescreen |
| [02:32:40] | mangus580: | yeah |
| [02:32:42] | mangus580: | :-( |
| [02:32:51] | mangus580: | thats nice... if you have a WIDE SCREEN! |
| [02:32:58] | wagnerrp: | theres the one revamped old theme, and someone currently building a (childish) 4:3 theme |
| [02:33:10] | mangus580: | LOL |
| [02:33:17] | wagnerrp: | and thats about it |
| [02:33:35] | wagnerrp: | maybe the theming competition will bring out additional themes |
| [02:33:53] | mangus580: | dont get me wrong.... |
| [02:33:59] | mangus580: | its not going to scare me away from myth! |
| [02:34:18] | jedix: | it's going to make you get a new tv? |
| [02:34:26] | mangus580: | some day |
| [02:34:31] | mangus580: | need a job first |
| [02:34:37] | jedix: | :/ |
| [02:34:46] | jedix: | good luck man |
| [02:34:48] | wagnerrp: | iamlindoro: seems something else good happened today |
| [02:34:53] | mangus580: | and being there is nothign wrong with this tv, its hard to justify |
| [02:35:07] | jedix: | oh yeah. |
| [02:35:09] | wagnerrp: | its old and busted? |
| [02:35:20] | wagnerrp: | you need some new hotness |
| [02:35:58] | mangus580: | heh |
| [02:36:01] | jedix: | I don't want to upgrade myth |
| [02:36:16] | mangus580: | seriously though.. its not like I personally watch that actual tv much myself |
| [02:36:20] | jedix: | it took me so long to get this version working |
| [02:36:28] | wagnerrp: | jedix: nothing forcing you to |
| [02:36:32] | wagnerrp: | although what kind of content do you have in mythvideo? |
| [02:37:34] | wagnerrp: | 0.22 has vastly improved tv show support in mythvideo |
| [02:37:48] | wagnerrp: | it actually has functional metadata now |
| [02:37:49] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp, whahappened? |
| [02:38:07] | wagnerrp: | 'kill off 350 support' |
| [02:38:15] | iamlindoro: | ah, yeah :) |
| [02:40:25] | mangus580: | while the Gallery plugin could use some help... we are enjoying it :-) |
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| [02:41:17] | jedix: | the non-recorded tv shows (that are old and I probably 99% don't want) are tv shows and many movies |
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| [02:42:07] | jedix: | also, I use the upnp server for the ps3 sometimes |
| [02:43:03] | jedix: | is the scroll speed better in the movies section? |
| [02:43:10] | jedix: | it takes me forever to get to the movie I want |
| [02:43:20] | iamlindoro: | only peasants scroll in .22 |
| [02:43:20] | mangus580: | means you got too many movies! |
| [02:43:24] | jedix: | idealy I'd want a "press letter to jump to that" |
| [02:43:30] | iamlindoro: | Grownups press Ctrl-S and jump to the movie |
| [02:43:39] | jedix: | no way |
| [02:43:45] | jedix: | there's a key that I don't know about? |
| [02:43:55] | iamlindoro: | .22 or later only |
| [02:44:07] | mangus580: | is there a key set that lets you jump to live tv, and one for the recorded list? |
| [02:44:27] | mangus580: | (didnt see them in the bindings list) |
| [02:44:28] | jedix: | damnit |
| [02:45:18] | iamlindoro: | "Thank you iamlindoro for writing such a brilliant bit of code" |
| [02:45:22] | iamlindoro: | I think that's what you were going for |
| [02:47:38] | jedix: | hehe |
| [02:47:48] | jedix: | it's awesome that all these features exist now |
| [02:48:00] | jedix: | it sucks that I'll more than likely break everthing upgrading |
| [02:49:18] | jedix: | I'm very happy to see tv show support and searches |
| [02:49:37] | AndrewNC: | anyone happen to know a command line tool to show current disk r/w speeds? |
| [02:50:06] | [R]: | hdparm can do it |
| [02:51:06] | mangus580: | jedix: what are you afraid of breaking? |
| [02:51:38] | Sedorox: | hdparm -tT /dev/disk |
| [02:52:04] | AndrewNC: | Sedorox: I think that one benchmarks rather than shows current usage |
| [02:52:33] | SeveredCross: | Ah, for current usage, you probably want iotop. |
| [02:52:33] | Sedorox: | oh you want current |
| [02:52:34] | Josh__: | Anyone know if LIRC/Myth is capable of interpreting when the remote button is held, not simply go "full-blown repeat", but scale up into it? |
| [02:52:34] | Sedorox: | sorry |
| [02:52:46] | wagnerrp: | no |
| [02:52:53] | AndrewNC: | tht puts me on the right track, thx |
| [02:52:56] | Dagmar: | Not possible. |
| [02:53:35] | Sedorox: | I use gkrellm on my desktop to monitor it and others.. shows the disk activities at least |
| [02:53:51] | SeveredCross: | Not sure what gkrellm uses, but iotop is good. |
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| [02:54:08] | Sedorox: | it is it's own deamon, iirc |
| [02:54:13] | Sedorox: | but yea.. |
| [02:54:18] | AndrewNC: | yeah, I recall using gkrellm in the past, but since I'm ssh'd in while watching live tv, I'd rather use something textbased |
| [02:54:50] | mangus580: | I take it there are no key-combos for what I asked about? |
| [02:55:15] | HypNoMadic: | Hello – I've noticed for weeks now that the longer my frontend is running, the slower it gets, even running for less than a day renders it very sluggish while navigating the menu |
| [02:55:48] | wagnerrp: | for weeks.... so this would be 0.21? |
| [02:56:12] | Josh__: | HypNoMadic, could be lots of things – CPU heat, memory leaks, etc. |
| [02:57:13] | HypNoMadic: | Josh__: It's just the mythfrontend that slows down, if I restart gdm it's very speedy for about 8 hours or so, all other apps/daemons on the system seem to be fine |
| [02:57:40] | wagnerrp: | HypNoMadic: what version? |
| [02:58:12] | HypNoMadic: | wagnerrp: I compile the latest SVN just about ever day or so, and I've noticed it for probably a month or longer |
| [02:58:44] | mangus580: | oh.... I know what I wanted to ask! |
| [02:58:53] | mangus580: | where can I find an easy install windows version? LOL |
| [02:59:00] | ** Josh__ almost has his channel lineups configured correctly! ** | |
| [02:59:06] | Josh__: | mangus580, good luck. |
| [02:59:13] | mangus580: | was afraid of that |
| [02:59:18] | HypNoMadic: | I've been watching the patch updates and mailing lists hoping to see some hits on this, I've seen just a hint in the mailing lists |
| [02:59:33] | chainsawbike: | mangus580, http://members.iinet.net.au/~davco/ |
| [02:59:38] | mangus580: | I suppose when I need it in the office, I can always reboot into minimyth |
| [03:01:49] | mangus580: | thansk chainsawbike!! |
| [03:05:17] | jedix: | wifi says 0.22+fixes is not released |
| [03:05:25] | Josh__: | Is this a typo? |
| [03:05:30] | wagnerrp: | what is 'wifi'? |
| [03:05:41] | jedix: | yeah typo |
| [03:05:44] | jedix: | wiki |
| [03:05:57] | wagnerrp: | oh, where does it say 0.21? |
| [03:06:13] | jedix: | what? |
| [03:06:15] | jedix: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Release_Notes_-_0.22-fixes |
| [03:06:23] | jedix: | Release notes yet to be determined – Not yet release. |
| [03:06:50] | Josh__: | In the MythVideo configuration pages, under "Ripping" – There's an option called "Transcode AC3 Audio", but the help text says "_If set_ the MTD will preserve AC3 audio in transcoded files" |
| [03:06:57] | wagnerrp: | well technically, the -fixes releases are never 'released' |
| [03:07:05] | jedix: | oh |
| [03:07:07] | wagnerrp: | theyre just made available on subversion |
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| [03:07:30] | iamlindoro: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Release_Notes_-_0.22 |
| [03:07:39] | Josh__: | Naturally checking the box implies "I want to" – but that doesnt make sense with the help text at the bottom. |
| [03:07:40] | jedix: | yeah, I saw that |
| [03:07:47] | jedix: | was wondering what was fixed in 0.22 and what was not |
| [03:08:12] | iamlindoro: | We fixed all the closed bugs |
| [03:08:16] | iamlindoro: | the open ones are ones we didn't |
| [03:08:51] | jedix: | hehe |
| [03:08:52] | jedix: | thanks |
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| [03:12:35] | jedix: | where's the opened bugs? |
| [03:12:58] | wagnerrp: | the ones that arent closed |
| [03:13:07] | jedix: | yeah |
| [03:13:09] | jedix: | where;s the list |
| [03:13:18] | wagnerrp: | svn.mythtv.org |
| [03:14:35] | mangus580: | bugs? what bugs?? |
| [03:15:27] | iamlindoro: | Those are the code we're forced to fix because we wrote it, as opposed to the ideas, which we get to ignore |
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| [03:16:22] | wagnerrp: | except for the ones that are marked invalid, because the reporter wont be our friend and talk to us |
| [03:17:13] | mangus580: | I was tryign to imply that myth is perfect ;-) |
| [03:17:22] | Josh__: | haha |
| [03:17:31] | Josh__: | No software is perfect :) |
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| [03:17:51] | Josh__: | Sometimes I have typos in "hello world" |
| [03:18:13] | iamlindoro: | Ehlo, wurld |
| [03:18:35] | mangus580: | LMAO |
| [03:19:45] | ** Josh__ tries to remember the permissions on his gigant0r "shared" volume ** | |
| [03:20:18] | ** mangus580 wishes he had a volume big enough to care about ** | |
| [03:20:31] | Josh__: | haha |
| [03:21:01] | mangus580: | :-) |
| [03:21:06] | mangus580: | my biggest drive is a 300gb |
| [03:21:42] | jedix: | my biggest volume is ~3tb |
| [03:21:53] | ** mangus580 is really jealous ** | |
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| [03:22:02] | mangus580: | jedix: why dont you send your cast-offs my way??? |
| [03:22:10] | jedix: | haha |
| [03:22:11] | mangus580: | you prolly toss 500gb drives LOL |
| [03:22:47] | Josh__: | mangus580, http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=213& . . . 000491400402 |
| [03:22:48] | wagnerrp: | ive got a stack of 300s with nothing to plug them into |
| [03:22:52] | iamlindoro: | I have 11 1TB drives stacke dont he desk :) |
| [03:22:58] | iamlindoro: | er stacked on |
| [03:23:07] | wagnerrp: | you should start building furniture |
| [03:23:14] | Josh__: | That was a small project to see how big of an array I could make with all the drives I had laying around... |
| [03:23:40] | ** mangus580 is accepting donations!! ** | |
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| [03:23:48] | Josh__: | I just bought my first 1TB drive friday. |
| [03:24:04] | jedix: | I have 16x 36gb fc drives |
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| [03:25:13] | ** J-e-f-f-A currently has 5x 500GB, and 1x 1TB drives on his backend for Video... and a 1TB still in the box – plan to replace one of the remaining WD 500's before it dies... ** | |
| [03:25:25] | jedix: | nod |
| [03:25:37] | ** mangus580 cries ** | |
| [03:25:52] | jedix: | hey, 300 isn't too shabby |
| [03:26:07] | J-e-f-f-A: | mangus580: I've had 4 of my 6 WD 500's fail in the past 2 or 3 years... :-( |
| [03:26:07] | mangus580: | I think I have a 300, and 2 80s in the box LOL |
| [03:26:21] | mangus580: | that sux J-e-f-f-A |
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| [03:26:55] | J-e-f-f-A: | mangus580: Yeah, especially when the 1st time it happened, 2 drives failed at once, losing everything on my Raid5... |
| [03:27:18] | iamlindoro: | /dev/md1 20.3T 10.2T 10.1T 50% /MythMedia |
| [03:27:19] | mangus580: | ouch! |
| [03:27:22] | iamlindoro: | bwoop bwoooooo |
| [03:27:24] | J-e-f-f-A: | mangus580: the 2nd time one drive failed, I lost the 500GB of data on that one drive (since I had switched to individual drives and Storage Groups) |
| [03:27:27] | jedix: | nice |
| [03:28:05] | J-e-f-f-A: | Yeah, iamlindoro is a HD junkie... ;-) (Nothing wrong with that BTW... ) |
| [03:28:10] | ** Josh__ uses SG's, but all hosted on his 500GBx2 RAID1. ** | |
| [03:28:40] | jedix: | you must have a massive sata controller |
| [03:28:51] | mangus580: | I would be happy with 1tb total I think |
| [03:28:56] | Josh__: | jedix, or just more than one :) |
| [03:28:59] | iamlindoro: | 10 onboard SATA ports, 8 more on a card |
| [03:29:57] | jedix: | 10 onboard? nice |
| [03:30:18] | iamlindoro: | Yeah, it's a beast |
| [03:30:20] | iamlindoro: | and silent! |
| [03:30:46] | iamlindoro: | (because it lives in a closet and the cables run through the walls to nice, sexy wall panels |
| [03:30:57] | mangus580: | LOL |
| [03:31:10] | mangus580: | hows the heat from it? is that how you heat the house in the winter?? :-) |
| [03:31:14] | ** J-e-f-f-A 's backend is loud, but the 3x120MM fans probably have something to do with that... hehehehe ** | |
| [03:31:22] | iamlindoro: | mangus580, winter? |
| [03:31:28] | iamlindoro: | You mean like when it rains sometimes? |
| [03:31:29] | wagnerrp: | 3x120mm fans should be relatively quiet |
| [03:31:33] | ** iamlindoro lives in California ** | |
| [03:31:52] | jedix: | southern? |
| [03:31:56] | iamlindoro: | Northern |
| [03:31:56] | mangus580: | I see |
| [03:32:04] | jedix: | bay area? |
| [03:32:06] | iamlindoro: | yup |
| [03:32:14] | jedix: | cool |
| [03:32:16] | jedix: | nice area |
| [03:32:22] | iamlindoro: | yeah, I like it |
| [03:32:41] | jedix: | I was there last year around this time.. went to mir woods and all |
| [03:32:42] | iamlindoro: | mangus580, The heat isn't bad, plenty of fans going over the drives, and the closet is large enough to adequately disperse heat |
| [03:32:45] | J-e-f-f-A: | wagnerrp: You would think, but it's pretty loud... One of these days I should bring home my dB meter and take some measurements... probably at least 50–60dB |
| [03:33:04] | wagnerrp: | 60dB is very loud |
| [03:33:12] | Wicked: | muir woods is amazing ;o |
| [03:33:28] | mangus580: | my backend is somewhat loud |
| [03:33:32] | RyeBrye: | Lets just say RFC 5545 for short ;) |
| [03:33:33] | mangus580: | but my frontend is SILENT |
| [03:33:41] | RyeBrye: | woops, wrong chan! :P |
| [03:33:48] | wagnerrp: | a normal PC is going to be 30–35dB |
| [03:33:53] | ** jedix once worked on a server that ran at 130dB, required air protection ** | |
| [03:34:17] | SeveredCross: | WTF 130db? |
| [03:34:22] | mangus580: | poop... windows myth wont run on win7 |
| [03:34:29] | jedix: | yeah |
| [03:34:29] | RyeBrye: | jedix: I saw that server on Alias – the one that flies around in the sky? |
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| [03:35:05] | jedix: | hehe, no ATCA, 16 slots each with dual xeons |
| [03:35:17] | J-e-f-f-A: | wagnerrp: yeah, it's up on a shelf in my cellar, so I'd rather have it be cool than quiet. I don't remember if I replaced the fans with temp-controlled fans or not. That would quiet it down a bit. |
| [03:36:23] | jedix: | iamlindoro: does the updates watch dirs for changes? |
| [03:36:28] | jedix: | that would make my life |
| [03:37:00] | wagnerrp: | i dont care what you put in the thing, simple fans are not going to push 130dB at 1m |
| [03:37:05] | J-e-f-f-A: | jedix: What's your question again, in english? ;-) |
| [03:37:28] | jedix: | if mythvideo watches the directory |
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| [03:37:49] | J-e-f-f-A: | wagnerrp: We have a 1U AIX box at work that when you first turn it on probably hits 95–100dB... then the fans slow down. |
| [03:38:06] | J-e-f-f-A: | jedix: I believe you have to 'rescan' from the menu – only takes a sec. |
| [03:38:21] | wagnerrp: | i might believe 90dB |
| [03:39:22] | jedix: | well, 0.21+fixes requires me to escape out then go back in |
| [03:39:57] | J-e-f-f-A: | jedix: 0.22-fixes doesn't require you to exit. ;-) |
| [03:40:01] | wagnerrp: | 0.21 requires you to rescan in the video manager |
| [03:40:05] | wagnerrp: | its completely different in 0.22 |
| [03:44:20] | jedix: | but.. I don't rescan |
| [03:44:25] | jedix: | I jsut exit and go back in |
| [03:44:29] | jedix: | does it auto scan? |
| [03:47:24] | jedix: | I chose to believe J-e-f-f-A |
| [03:49:56] | ** Josh__ just had a brainpoop moment ** | |
| [03:50:07] | mangus580: | uh oh |
| [03:50:32] | Josh__: | I chmodded 751 rather than 775 |
| [03:51:07] | wagnerrp: | can you actually execute without read access? |
| [03:51:26] | Josh__: | wagnerrp, you can cd into directories, but can't 'ls' |
| [03:53:16] | SeveredCross: | Yeah, it's pretty special. |
| [03:54:12] | Josh__: | "Everybody look at me, cause I'm sailin on a boat!" |
| [03:55:12] | Josh__: | okay, permissions on the local filesystem are fine, that means there's a problem authenticating with samba... |
| [03:55:25] | Josh__: | OR |
| [03:55:35] | Josh__: | I could just mount the directory with nfs and call it a day. |
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| [04:01:05] | mangus580: | ok, I give – that myth compile for winbloze just isnt stable :-( |
| [04:01:06] | mangus580: | oh well |
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| [04:05:13] | k-man: | i'm just curious, why do people bother to try and run myth on windows? |
| [04:05:33] | Josh__: | k-man, I wouldnt mind a windows client |
| [04:05:35] | mangus580: | because having a handy portable laptop with a myth frontend could be useful |
| [04:05:40] | mangus580: | I dont want a back end |
| [04:05:42] | mangus580: | just a front end |
| [04:05:49] | k-man: | ok, fair enough |
| [04:05:51] | Josh__: | k-man, would keep me from having to reboot my laptop just to watch tv in the 'loo |
| [04:05:52] | mangus580: | I tend to sit at my desk, with the desktop running |
| [04:06:00] | mangus580: | but want to watch my shows on the laptop |
| [04:06:02] | k-man: | Josh__: thats desperate ;) |
| [04:06:07] | Josh__: | k-man, :) |
| [04:06:20] | mangus580: | I do have a minimyth netboot install I can bring it up on |
| [04:06:26] | mangus580: | but thats time consuming |
| [04:06:38] | k-man: | can you not run the FE in a vm? |
| [04:06:40] | Josh__: | mangus580, i've got 2x320GB's in my laptop, I dualboot :) |
| [04:06:46] | mangus580: | I am wondering if my wifi is the instability |
| [04:07:06] | Josh__: | mangus580, got some binaries you can send my way? |
| [04:07:16] | mangus580: | my last adventure of a different OS for the laptop was OSX |
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| [04:07:26] | mangus580: | standby josh I will scroll up for the link |
| [04:07:42] | Josh__: | Oh, it was linked in IRC? I can find it then. |
| [04:07:46] | k-man: | mangus580: how did that go? |
| [04:08:00] | mangus580: | http://members.iinet.net.au/~davco/ |
| [04:08:09] | mangus580: | went decent k-man |
| [04:08:20] | mangus580: | I just couldnt use the dual core (had to bios set it to single) |
| [04:08:34] | mangus580: | and I was missing the sd card reader and headphone jack |
| [04:08:41] | Josh__: | I forget the name of the package, but there's an 'unlocked' version of OSX you can use on pretty much any PC hardware |
| [04:08:41] | mangus580: | might have kept it, but the HD crashed |
| [04:08:49] | mangus580: | Kalyway |
| [04:10:22] | Josh__: | Hmm, my audio on my bedroom box disappeared. |
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| [04:10:45] | k-man: | a friend runs the front end on a mac mini – he says its great, especially as he can use itunes instead of myth music |
| [04:11:16] | mangus580: | cool |
| [04:11:22] | mangus580: | I suppose I could bring up mythbuntu in a VM |
| [04:11:26] | mangus580: | but that would take time |
| [04:11:40] | mangus580: | although I could set it to sleep and wake it up as needed |
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| [04:13:34] | mangus580: | it would only be useable in the house |
| [04:14:27] | oobe: | or not at all |
| [04:14:43] | mangus580: | LOL |
| [04:14:46] | mangus580: | possibly |
| [04:16:32] | mangus580: | why would you say that though oobe? |
| [04:17:19] | oobe: | about the VM |
| [04:17:28] | oobe: | i wasnt paying much attention though |
| [04:17:32] | mangus580: | myth doesnt like VM's? |
| [04:17:34] | mangus580: | ah |
| [04:17:49] | oobe: | how can a vm access virtual tuners |
| [04:17:59] | mangus580: | for front end only |
| [04:18:02] | oobe: | or hardware acceleration for video playback |
| [04:18:08] | k-man: | oobe: its its the frontend, does it need to access tuners? |
| [04:18:21] | k-man: | dunno about the hardware acceleration though |
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| [04:19:05] | oobe: | VMs are getting beter and better it might work but call me old fashioned for saying linux just works so why bother |
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| [04:19:35] | mangus580: | because I dont want to run linux on my laptop |
| [04:21:30] | oobe: | mangus580, im thinking there are ways of accessing recordings and mythvideo shares using native solutions |
| [04:21:34] | oobe: | what OS is it ? |
| [04:21:51] | mangus580: | win7 |
| [04:21:59] | oobe: | xvmc works well with myth 22 |
| [04:22:02] | mangus580: | my experience so far shows that upnp isnt that handy |
| [04:22:02] | oobe: | i have tested it |
| [04:22:10] | mangus580: | as livetv woudl be nice too |
| [04:22:10] | oobe: | the linux version of course |
| [04:22:28] | oobe: | also you could just make samba shares |
| [04:22:38] | oobe: | which im sure you aware of |
| [04:22:55] | mangus580: | but that wont get the live tv will it? |
| [04:22:59] | oobe: | no |
| [04:23:30] | oobe: | but you could record somthing on the backend and watch it while it records |
| [04:23:44] | oobe: | or even struggle with compiling a win32 mythfrontend |
| [04:23:50] | mangus580: | true |
| [04:24:33] | oobe: | compiling a win32 version of myhtfrontend would be somthing i would try |
| [04:24:45] | oobe: | i have seen many reports of compile errors though |
| [04:25:02] | mangus580: | well I am trying the pre-compiled linked above |
| [04:25:17] | oobe: | oh ok i didnt see that |
| [04:25:36] | mangus580: | but it wasnt working so well for me |
| [04:25:52] | mangus580: | so I am stepping back a slight rev |
| [04:26:44] | oobe: | what link? |
| [04:27:28] | mangus580: | http://members.iinet.net.au/~davco/ |
| [04:30:49] | oobe: | yesterday i tried running ttvdb on a fresh slackware install and noticed i needed to install tvdb-api so i did then afterwards the site was down and i thought somthing was still broken now its still down LOL |
| [04:31:23] | justinh: | pfft. still not getting through to people why the arrow key accelerators were taken out is it? |
| [04:31:50] | iamlindoro: | because the devs hate freedom |
| [04:31:51] | iamlindoro: | duh |
| [04:32:07] | iamlindoro: | and like breaking honest, hard-working people's Teevee |
| [04:35:05] | iamlindoro: | I love that, even though it is a net 0 increase in button presses, people are still bitching |
| [04:35:08] | oobe: | that is funny |
| [04:36:28] | justinh: | and even though somebody has been working on reducing the number of menu keys needed to be defined too |
| [04:37:17] | wagnerrp: | ooh... up-to-date binaries |
| [04:37:22] | mangus580: | is that why the buttons I mapped for ffwd and rew dont work?? LOL |
| [04:39:53] | oobe: | mangus580, probably not infact i would say no for sure |
| [04:40:07] | wagnerrp: | mangus580: thats why you can no longer use 'right' to play the selected item |
| [04:40:23] | wagnerrp: | since the menus are no longer vertical, right is meaningless |
| [04:40:25] | mangus580: | I have noticed a few button pushes that dont match the wiki |
| [04:40:41] | mangus580: | see my menus are vertical still LOL |
| [04:40:58] | wagnerrp: | thats because the author of your theme made it so |
| [04:41:07] | wagnerrp: | not because the myth interface demands it |
| [04:42:07] | wagnerrp: | do not turn off that mythtv, they are in control of the vertical and the horizontal |
| [04:44:03] | mangus580: | I know that |
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| [05:07:23] | mangus580: | ok, crazy question |
| [05:07:28] | mangus580: | if I have the backend stopped |
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| [05:07:34] | mangus580: | and I am trying to restore a copy of the db |
| [05:07:43] | mangus580: | would could be rebuilding it faster than I can do anything with it? |
| [05:08:06] | wagnerrp: | rebuilding what? |
| [05:08:12] | mangus580: | the database |
| [05:08:21] | mangus580: | every time I empty it, something is putting the tables back in |
| [05:08:42] | wagnerrp: | a frontend or backend running somewhere |
| [05:08:49] | mangus580: | k |
| [05:08:53] | wagnerrp: | see whats connected to port 3306 |
| [05:08:58] | mangus580: | how? |
| [05:09:08] | wagnerrp: | netstat -n | grep 3306 |
| [05:10:05] | Dagmar: | ffs |
| [05:10:07] | Dagmar: | no |
| [05:10:11] | Dagmar: | rofl |
| [05:10:15] | mangus580: | ffs? |
| [05:10:29] | Dagmar: | Did you stop the mysql server? |
| [05:10:47] | Dagmar: | I have this sinking feeling your basically smashing data on top the tables |
| [05:10:56] | Dagmar: | s/your/you're/; |
| [05:11:12] | mangus580: | I cant because I am using phpmyadmin |
| [05:11:24] | wagnerrp: | why cant you stop it? |
| [05:11:26] | Dagmar: | rofl |
| [05:11:44] | wagnerrp: | phpmyadmin has nothing to do with starting or stopping the database |
| [05:11:54] | mangus580: | pretty sure phpmyadmin wont operate if the db server is down |
| [05:11:55] | wagnerrp: | its just some web-based interface to mysql, for easy management |
| [05:12:01] | mangus580: | think I found the issue |
| [05:12:27] | mangus580: | mythbuntu must maintain the connection even in the frontend is shut down |
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| [05:13:22] | mangus580: | dont mind me... being a little stupid over here |
| [05:14:27] | mangus580: | when myth upgrades the db... it stores a backup |
| [05:14:27] | mangus580: | where does it stash it? |
| [05:14:41] | iamlindoro: | in your default storage group |
| [05:14:48] | mangus580: | k |
| [05:16:13] | Dagmar: | I thought you were trying to restore the database by copying files back |
| [05:16:16] | justinh: | wheee istanbul crashy crashy |
| [05:16:17] | Dagmar: | My mistake |
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| [05:19:02] | ** mangus580 crosses fingers ** | |
| [05:19:15] | Dagmar: | Jerub: When my gorilla is tanking it damn well better get heals or the run won't get very far |
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| [05:20:42] | justinh: | http://homepage.ntlworld.com/justin.hornsby2/test.ogg |
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| [05:23:51] | mangus580: | how would I import the backup file into the database using a terminal session? |
| [05:23:56] | mangus580: | (too big for phpmyadmin) |
| [05:24:31] | wagnerrp: | mysql -p < backup.sql |
| [05:24:46] | mangus580: | so I have to decompress it first? |
| [05:24:56] | wagnerrp: | or better, use the backup and restore scripts |
| [05:25:15] | mangus580: | where/how would I find/use a restore script? |
| [05:25:25] | mangus580: | (headed to wiki... but laymans terms would be nice) |
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| [05:28:32] | wagnerrp: | ugh... finally get a windows binary, and it craps out due to some Qt crap |
| [05:29:15] | justinh: | keep dreaming the dream :D |
| [05:35:16] | mangus580: | ok, scripts arent working for me |
| [05:35:24] | mangus580: | says 'command not found' |
| [05:37:48] | Dagmar: | Yes, generally that means they're not in your PATH |
| [05:37:56] | mangus580: | or |
| [05:38:09] | mangus580: | it means the wiki didnt say to put ./ in front of the script when attempting to execute it |
| [05:38:22] | Dagmar: | Yes, because you've have learned that from Unix 101. |
| [05:38:41] | mangus580: | well... sadly I didnt |
| [05:38:44] | Dagmar: | s/you've/you'd/; |
| [05:38:44] | mangus580: | I slept that day |
| [05:39:05] | clever: | this isnt DOS until you add the CWD to PATH |
| [05:40:11] | mangus580: | I guess all I am saying is if ai wiki is going to be specific... it should be SPECIFIC ;-) |
| [05:40:35] | mangus580: | some of us rely on it LOL |
| [05:40:52] | Dagmar: | Don't rely on high-level documentation to explain to you newbie stuff. |
| [05:41:08] | Dagmar: | Having to write that kind of documentation makes documentation authors into homocidal maniacs. |
| [05:42:25] | mangus580: | I guess I dont see why if you are going to state a 'command' for restoring a db... you would put it in exactly as it should be typed |
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| [05:48:58] | Dagmar: | It should remind you to press the enter key, too. |
| [05:49:04] | mangus580: | probably |
| [05:49:29] | ** Dagmar pinches his eyes ** | |
| [05:50:04] | mangus580: | keep in mind... MOST people do know about an enter key ;-) |
| [05:52:05] | wagnerrp: | yeah, they usually use the any key |
| [05:52:18] | mangus580: | sure |
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| [06:03:23] | mangus580: | I guess most people think that just because someone like me is actually capable of setting up myth... that I know linux |
| [06:03:24] | mangus580: | ;-) |
| [06:03:50] | mangus580: | but with things like mythbuntu around.... |
| [06:04:01] | mangus580: | one really doesnt NEED to know what they are doing |
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| [06:14:26] | mangus580: | how long does a flag commercials job usually take (on an hour SD show?) |
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| [06:15:00] | [R]: | depends on your cpu and the codec |
| [06:15:12] | mangus580: | hmmm |
| [06:15:20] | mangus580: | I flagged it right before I asked |
| [06:15:24] | mangus580: | at 72% already |
| [06:15:45] | mangus580: | although, I think it was runnign before I shut the backend down to fix my db mess |
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| [06:20:38] | ProfessorBacon: | anyone using mythtv on opensuse? just wondering if i should try upgrading from packman.. |
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| [06:57:43] | justinh: | whoops. first in the building at work today |
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| [07:00:32] | iamlindoro: | There's something to that |
| [07:00:41] | iamlindoro: | remember, you were in at 3 AM and there's not a soul who can prove otherwise |
| [07:01:59] | wagnerrp: | man... you got absolutely nothing done in that whole four hours |
| [07:02:01] | wagnerrp: | seriously... |
| [07:03:06] | mangus580: | :-) |
| [07:04:10] | mangus580: | is there a way to keep teh aspect ratio scaling to always be off? |
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| [07:10:12] | justinh: | there's still theming I can do over my freenx connection :) |
| [07:10:20] | mangus580: | heh |
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| [07:11:05] | justinh: | pondering a reply to another thread moaning the loss of arrow key accelerators. Like WAKE UP, smell the coffee. They ain't coming back unless you downgrade to 0.21 |
| [07:11:18] | mtrelins: | hey guys, when i use a commandline to play a game (rom) i get sound |
| [07:11:19] | mangus580: | LOL |
| [07:11:23] | mtrelins: | same commenadline in mythtv = no sound |
| [07:11:27] | mtrelins: | what do i shut off |
| [07:11:35] | mtrelins: | to stop myth from grabbing control of the sound |
| [07:11:44] | justinh: | mtrelins: get rid of pulseaudio |
| [07:11:48] | justinh: | next! |
| [07:11:55] | mtrelins: | is that a myth option? |
| [07:11:59] | justinh: | nope |
| [07:12:06] | mtrelins: | ok so like gnome? |
| [07:12:10] | justinh: | nope |
| [07:12:16] | Dagmar: | Assuming you told it to use ALSA:default for sound, pulseaudio is not your friend. |
| [07:12:30] | mtrelins: | i did |
| [07:12:38] | justinh: | PA was a complete dog on my karmic box. It had to go |
| [07:12:43] | mtrelins: | so what do i tell it to use? |
| [07:12:50] | Dagmar: | ALSA:default |
| [07:12:52] | mtrelins: | apt-get remove pulseaudio? |
| [07:13:11] | justinh: | audio just stopped working altogether the other day. Uninstalled pulseaudio, installed alsamixer etc & bang. Audio again :) |
| [07:13:21] | Dagmar: | pulseaudio is just grabbing your sound, assuming that the card is capable of muxing multiple streams on it's own and getting it wrong, and subsequently failing because pulse is trying to "help" |
| [07:13:40] | Dagmar: | ALSA makes the same mistake frequently |
| [07:13:48] | mtrelins: | so i just have to remove pulseaudio? |
| [07:13:58] | Dagmar: | ...but it generally doesn't screw things up because alsa, left to do it's own thing, doesn't try to hang onto the sound card all the time |
| [07:13:59] | justinh: | mtrelins: it's up to you |
| [07:14:07] | Dagmar: | just disable it first to be sure |
| [07:14:16] | mtrelins: | disable it through init script? |
| [07:14:35] | Dagmar: | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio |
| [07:14:43] | justinh: | myth pauses pulseaudio when you run mythfrontend, which stops any app using it from outputting sound |
| [07:15:37] | mtrelins: | ahhh |
| [07:15:42] | mtrelins: | but i can alt-tab |
| [07:15:49] | mtrelins: | and still run the emulator |
| [07:15:50] | mtrelins: | with sound |
| [07:15:53] | mtrelins: | is that consistent? |
| [07:16:14] | justinh: | that other app is probably not using pulseaudio then |
| [07:16:34] | mtrelins: | so is this the real problem? |
| [07:16:38] | justinh: | because as long as mythfrontend is *open* it'll pause pulseaudio |
| [07:16:39] | mtrelins: | or is it something else? |
| [07:16:48] | mtrelins: | oh yeah, i just alt-tab to a terminal |
| [07:16:51] | mtrelins: | and run the emulator |
| [07:16:54] | justinh: | PA is the single worst thing to happen to linux audio ever IMHO |
| [07:16:54] | mtrelins: | same exact commandline |
| [07:16:58] | mtrelins: | but this time, with audio |
| [07:17:06] | Dagmar: | Nah, there's been worse |
| [07:17:12] | mtrelins: | esound is pretty bad |
| [07:17:21] | mtrelins: | i like oss |
| [07:17:28] | Dagmar: | esound isn't worse, but it sucked mightily for a long time |
| [07:17:35] | Dagmar: | OSS was definitely worse |
| [07:17:40] | mtrelins: | :( |
| [07:17:45] | Dagmar: | OSS had NO idea about multiple sound streams |
| [07:17:53] | Dagmar: | It's the _reason_ esound had to be invented |
| [07:18:03] | justinh: | pfft. nobody really needs multiple audio streams |
| [07:18:07] | Dagmar: | Yes they do |
| [07:18:10] | justinh: | other than folks with ADD |
| [07:18:21] | mtrelins: | any idea though about why the emulator works with sound from the prompt and without from MythGame? |
| [07:18:25] | Dagmar: | If you have an app that "goes ding" while you're playing some music with XMMS you get no ding without muxing of some kind |
| [07:18:37] | mtrelins: | emulator works from alt-tab terminal launch while myth is running |
| [07:18:48] | justinh: | if I have an app which "goes ding" the very first thing I ever do is stop the aunting thing "going ding" |
| [07:18:54] | Dagmar: | Yeah well that's you |
| [07:19:14] | Dagmar: | Me, I like apps to be able to clamor for my attention if I'm not looking straight at them |
| [07:19:26] | justinh: | ubuntu, with its default sound scheme of "pebbles falling into a toilet" etc |
| [07:19:32] | Dagmar: | ...assuming there's something important they have to tell me |
| [07:23:38] | mtrelins: | any more ideas? |
| [07:24:03] | Dagmar: | there's no real need for more ideas since the problem is almost certainly pulseaudio screwing up |
| [07:24:23] | Dagmar: | The page I linked shows how to disable pulse |
| [07:25:01] | mtrelins: | should i install esound? |
| [07:25:05] | Dagmar: | No. |
| [07:25:05] | mtrelins: | does myth pause esound? |
| [07:25:08] | Dagmar: | You only need ALSA for this |
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| [07:25:11] | mtrelins: | ok |
| [07:26:52] | justinh: | sigh. why is anybody even bothering to ressurect retro? lol |
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| [07:27:18] | justinh: | especially bringing back the old default list view. jesus. somebody liked that?! |
| [07:28:20] | iamlindoro: | Hopefully once concept is out people will see that the way out is forward, not back ;) |
| [07:29:02] | justinh: | out? oops |
| [07:29:10] | iamlindoro: | heh |
| [07:29:41] | banyan: | hi all: what's up with this? mythtv-themes = 0.22 is needed by package mythtv-0.22–1.fc11 |
| [07:30:06] | justinh: | wooo dependency hell |
| [07:30:12] | banyan: | I can only see a package called mythtv-themes 0.21 |
| [07:30:39] | Dagmar: | Meh just grab the themes from 0.22-fixes svn then |
| [07:30:48] | Dagmar: | They don't change terribly much from that |
| [07:30:54] | Dagmar: | You can sort out why there's no package for it later |
| [07:31:08] | banyan: | but that won't make yum happy. bleah... |
| [07:31:38] | banyan: | who do I whinge at about package issues for mythtv? |
| [07:31:52] | Dagmar: | You can tell yum to take a flying leap *if* you know it's safe to override something |
| [07:32:03] | Dagmar: | ...which in this case, we can be pretty sure thta pakcage is just a buncha themes |
| [07:32:19] | Dagmar: | Ask whoever maintains that repo |
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| [07:33:30] | mangus580: | woohoo... mythbuntu on Vbox is working just fine |
| [07:34:05] | justinh: | yeah because virtualising everything is such a *great* idea when there's absolutely no need to |
| [07:35:40] | mangus580: | there IS a need here though |
| [07:35:49] | mangus580: | now I can use my windows laptop to pull up a myth frontend |
| [07:35:55] | Dagmar: | heh |
| [07:36:05] | justinh: | and it's fast enough to play video? |
| [07:36:07] | Dagmar: | You have to admit it's less hassle than wrangling a native Win32 build |
| [07:36:16] | mangus580: | sure is |
| [07:36:22] | mangus580: | working just fine |
| [07:36:37] | Dagmar: | justinh: There's actually not a lot of performance penalty for virtualization on the newest CPUs |
| [07:36:52] | mangus580: | seeing a 'slight' bit of 'tearing'?? |
| [07:37:00] | mangus580: | on VERY fast movement |
| [07:37:10] | justinh: | still feel a bit meh about virtualisation for average users though |
| [07:37:26] | mangus580: | but I can live with it for now |
| [07:37:26] | justinh: | but yeah prolly the only way to get a native frontend on windows |
| [07:37:37] | mangus580: | I would prefer a windows frontend |
| [07:37:46] | mangus580: | but the builds I found wont work on my laptop |
| [07:37:57] | justinh: | I would prefer if people wasting their time trying to port myth to windows concentrated on improving it first |
| [07:38:12] | justinh: | ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME! |
| [07:38:41] | mangus580: | LOL |
| [07:38:42] | zeltak: | hi guys...anyone knows of a way to control mythtv thorugh a cell phone (symbian)? |
| [07:38:58] | mangus580: | anyway, its bedtime here |
| [07:38:59] | iamlindoro: | use the phone to call someone on a computer on your local network |
| [07:39:00] | mangus580: | later all |
| [07:39:06] | iamlindoro: | then dictate which keys they should press |
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| [07:39:23] | mangus580_zzz: | LMAO |
| [07:39:24] | Dagmar: | zeltek: MythWeb |
| [07:39:33] | banyan: | hey, I was contemplating setting up a PS3 as a frontend. What are my chances of having a happy experience? |
| [07:39:40] | justinh: | banyan: slim to none |
| [07:40:05] | justinh: | no video acceleration. whoops. stick to upnp |
| [07:40:06] | banyan: | lol, so much for that then! Is it because of the weird hardware? |
| [07:40:17] | Dagmar: | banyan: Slim to none |
| [07:40:30] | Dagmar: | banyan: Just use it's uPnP functionality and transcode videos into a format the PS3 can play |
| [07:40:34] | Dagmar: | THAT works really well actually |
| [07:41:27] | zeltak: | thx Dagmar but i meant more for pause play ..movement? |
| [07:41:34] | Dagmar: | At the moment the main problem I'm aware of is poor support for hardware accelleration of playback, unless you leave the PS3 firmware alone |
| [07:41:59] | Dagmar: | zeltak: The only option there I'm aware of would be twofold, and one I think is out of the question for your phone. |
| [07:42:10] | Dagmar: | One being an IR emitter app, and since your phone probably doesn't have an IR emitter, that's out. |
| [07:42:18] | zeltak: | yup |
| [07:42:25] | Dagmar: | The other is absurd. You could use pocketputty to access the telnet control port. |
| [07:42:44] | zeltak: | hehe yeah that is a bit absurd :) |
| [07:42:45] | justinh: | or you could write your own app to use the telnet control port |
| [07:42:47] | Dagmar: | Someone was working on a web app that you could use the phone's browser on, but I don't know what happened to it. |
| [07:42:52] | Dagmar: | It would not be all that responsive |
| [07:43:09] | justinh: | none of the phone based remotes are |
| [07:43:13] | zeltak: | i know zero about programming so that will be difficult if not impossinle justinh :) |
| [07:43:18] | justinh: | since they all use the telnet interface |
| [07:43:29] | justinh: | best bet is to forget the whole idea :) |
| [07:43:38] | justinh: | waste of a good phone |
| [07:43:53] | zeltak: | yeah...my remote pvr 150 went dead so ithought i could replace it with my n97 |
| [07:44:02] | zeltak: | k thx guys for the input :) |
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| [07:50:50] | zeltak: | Dagmar: just for the record if i do ssh into the machie where can i find telnet example commands? |
| [07:51:22] | Dagmar: | If you enable the frontend telnet interface (It's somewhere in the frontend setup menus) it'll tell you. |
| [07:51:33] | Dagmar: | Telnet in and it'll become obvious. |
| [07:51:52] | zeltak: | k thx again..im desperate not to get off the couch ill try that ;-) |
| [07:52:01] | Dagmar: | Pfft. |
| [07:52:06] | Dagmar: | Just buy a wireless keyboard. |
| [07:52:09] | Dagmar: | Much easier. :) |
| [07:52:39] | Dagmar: | I have this little Scorpius i20 think they don't make anymore, with a playstation-like stick poking out of the upper right |
| [07:52:40] | zeltak: | yeah im moving to Boston in 2 months so all new stuff is off the table as im flying there and cant take much |
| [07:53:00] | zeltak: | ill buy all new stuff there |
| [07:53:15] | Dagmar: | Why then aren't you using just a plain serial IR dongle and a cheap-ass programmable remote? |
| [07:53:17] | zeltak: | otherwise of course i would have bought a new remote (and new pc ;-)) |
| [07:53:46] | Dagmar: | I bought a transciever pre-made for $30 |
| [07:53:59] | zeltak: | well im not that technical and as i said dont want to put to much effort to a machine that will only be with me for 2 months |
| [07:54:03] | Dagmar: | Fifteen minutes work with a website talking about the model remote I bought and I was done |
| [07:54:15] | zeltak: | ill look into it, thx |
| [07:54:25] | zeltak: | u have a link by any chance? |
| [07:54:39] | Dagmar: | I put it in the wiki at one point. IguanaWorks or something like that |
| [07:55:13] | Dagmar: | Yep. These people |
| [07:55:13] | Dagmar: | http://iguanaworks.net/products.psp |
| [07:55:36] | zeltak: | thx Dagmar |
| [07:55:39] | Dagmar: | I don't know if they still make the serial one, but what they sell is definitely "supported" by LIRC |
| [07:55:49] | Dagmar: | ...so even their USB one should work fine |
| [07:56:08] | Dagmar: | Looks like they have both still |
| [07:57:23] | zeltak: | thx i look into it |
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| [08:09:42] | justinh: | lol. run times for '24' pulled from tmdb.com = 60 minutes |
| [08:09:51] | justinh: | pedantic |
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| [08:22:21] | zeltak: | Dagmar: this links seems to work for nokia in case anyone else here is intersetd: |
| [08:22:23] | zeltak: | http://www.cs.mu.oz.au/~aaron/mythtvmobileremote.html |
| [08:22:29] | zeltak: | so far so good |
| [08:22:42] | justinh: | slow? |
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| [08:27:47] | zeltak: | not so bad justinh |
| [08:28:10] | zeltak: | its meant for the n800 but works pretty well on my n97 |
| [08:28:27] | zeltak: | there keys are a bit off but it works and actually works well |
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| [09:20:23] | tank-man: | zeltak, the page says n80, not n800 |
| [09:24:27] | justinh: | ahh mordac, preventer of information services is here |
| [09:25:29] | zeltak: | yeah sorry tank-man i meant n80 |
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| [10:54:32] | mzb: | which of the lcd functions in lcdserver.cpp is used for playback of recordings? |
| [10:55:32] | mzb: | ie: channel or generic are my best guesses |
| [10:56:39] | ** mzb starts grepping ** | |
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| [11:15:42] | justinh: | oh goody. this company is now violating the mozilla licence |
| [11:16:16] | justinh: | who says businesses don't exploit free software. heh |
| [11:16:25] | Dibblah: | It's OK to violate licenses when you don't mind people violating yours. |
| [11:17:15] | justinh: | apparently the CEO kicked off last week about the state of the lab. When I was off |
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| [11:20:12] | ivor: | justinh: heh, you in a 'clean desk' lab now? |
| [11:21:14] | justinh: | heh no |
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| [11:21:19] | justinh: | it's a proper tip though |
| [11:21:35] | justinh: | but I'm not prepared to tidy up after anybody else |
| [11:21:59] | justinh: | I make a mess, I tidy it up. If others make a mess it's their responsibility |
| [11:23:06] | ivor: | na, I've tidied up others mess before.... |
| [11:23:15] | ivor: | step 1. get a biiiig bag...... |
| [11:23:37] | ivor: | et voila. all cleared. |
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| [11:29:35] | sid3windr: | what's wrong with the floor, ivor ? it's not big enough? :> |
| [11:34:26] | justinh: | ffs now I have to change some 0402 resistors. which is normally ok only these ones are between dimm sockets |
| [11:36:32] | justinh: | not on the solder side btw :P |
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| [11:41:42] | justinh: | who the aunting hell are they kidding |
| [11:45:13] | ivor: | haven't you got tweezers? :) |
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| [11:53:09] | justinh: | got tweezers. the dimm sockets are like 5mm apart |
| [11:54:14] | justinh: | and we've not got proper SMT rework gear |
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| [11:54:33] | justinh: | so not a case of blob some paste on, plonk resistor down & then IR reflow |
| [11:55:33] | justinh: | some aunt has nicked all my 0402 minireels anyway :) |
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| [12:02:28] | justinh: | Aww. RIP E-wah Woo-wah |
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| [12:09:29] | doc___: | hi there |
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| [12:24:01] | justinh: | hmm time to cancel any upcoming recordings from channel4 this week |
| [12:24:16] | jduggan: | why? |
| [12:24:21] | jduggan: | 3d rubbish? |
| [12:25:44] | justinh: | yup |
| [12:28:55] | justinh: | heh. though they call it '3d week' it seems only a tiny proportion of programmes are actually '3d' |
| [12:29:44] | jduggan: | is it just certain platforms that can get it? sky etc? |
| [12:29:54] | jduggan: | or is it across terrestrial/freesat/freeview/cable |
| [12:31:33] | justinh: | C4 across the board |
| [12:31:39] | justinh: | coloured specs '3d' |
| [12:32:12] | justinh: | think only Derren Brown need be marked as 'don't record' :) |
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| [12:33:18] | jduggan: | i dont like his shows |
| [12:33:23] | jduggan: | i dont find them entertaining |
| [12:34:20] | justinh: | trick or treat always seemed totally set up |
| [12:34:28] | justinh: | as in fake |
| [12:35:10] | justinh: | anyway it's one of the better things C4 show |
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| [12:51:18] | mathmoi: | Hi, I've recently updated to 0.22 and since then MythTv does not record shows. When I go into upcoming recording it says "Canceled recording (recorder Failed)". I can watch live TV and if I press the record button of my remote during live TV the show is effectively recorded. |
| [12:51:30] | mathmoi: | Is this a known problem? |
| [12:54:06] | wagnerrp: | digital tuner? multirec? |
| [12:55:14] | mathmoi: | Hauppage 150 tuner card, recording only one show at a time. |
| [12:57:25] | mathmoi: | Is there a log file or some place I should look for more informations about what went wrong? |
| [12:57:56] | wagnerrp: | the backend logs |
| [12:58:31] | wagnerrp: | ive been getting 'canceled recordings' but i think its a slightly different error |
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| [13:04:00] | mathmoi: | Humm, there is defenitely something wrong, my log file is 300Mb and growing :) |
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| [13:13:14] | mathmoi: | I finally opened the log file and it's full of : |
| [13:13:19] | mathmoi: | 2009-11–16 06:36:07.155 TFW: safe_write(): funky usleep |
| [13:13:19] | mathmoi: | 2009-11–16 06:36:07.158 TFW, Error: safe_write(): File I/O errcnt: 2 |
| [13:13:19] | mathmoi: | eno: No space left on device (28) |
| [13:13:27] | mathmoi: | Any idea? |
| [13:13:31] | wagnerrp: | .... |
| [13:13:46] | wagnerrp: | you dont know what could be causing that error? |
| [13:14:28] | mathmoi: | No, I'm gonna google it. I guess for some reason the backend is not able to free space in the recordings folder. |
| [13:14:45] | wagnerrp: | thats exactly what the error says |
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| [13:14:53] | wagnerrp: | your partition is full |
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| [13:15:31] | mathmoi: | Yes, it's full, but ussually it would just delete an old show to make place for a new one. |
| [13:16:07] | wagnerrp: | have you enabled auto-expire on your old recordings? |
| [13:16:44] | mathmoi: | Well, before the update it was enabled and worked. |
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| [13:40:16] | mathmoi: | Thanks wagnerrp for your help. |
| [13:40:51] | wagnerrp: | seems it wasnt much help |
| [13:41:02] | wagnerrp: | not sure why your stuff wouldnt be getting expired |
| [13:41:51] | mathmoi: | Well, I don't know either, but i've got to go to work now. I'll see tonight. |
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| [14:57:12] | rooter7: | Theme error: Font needs a face |
| [14:57:13] | rooter7: | Type: 'font' |
| [14:57:15] | rooter7: | Name: 'epgsmall' |
| [14:57:37] | rooter7: | <font name="epgsmall" base="small"> |
| [14:57:38] | rooter7: | <pixelsize>15</pixelsize> |
| [14:57:40] | rooter7: | </font> |
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| [15:02:18] | justinh: | so there's no font in the theme called 'small' |
| [15:02:26] | justinh: | oops |
| [15:02:34] | justinh: | nope it's not that |
| [15:02:38] | justinh: | not base= |
| [15:02:41] | justinh: | it's from= |
| [15:03:02] | justinh: | e.g. <font name="epgsmall" from="small"> |
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| [15:04:48] | rooter7: | Whoah, yay, no wonder it didn't work yesterday. Works great now. |
| [15:05:56] | rooter7: | But also I #'ed out multiline for channellist and <multiline>false</multiline>, but it's still multiline? |
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| [15:16:01] | rooter7: | Damn, I can bring the grid to 10x6, but not the channels or times. |
| [15:19:26] | wagnerrp: | rooter7: #mythtv-theming is likely a better place for these questions |
| [15:19:37] | wagnerrp: | although both are generally idle this time of day |
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| [15:26:12] | exelnet: | how can i rename all videos using the metadata information? i tried: su mythtv -c "/usr/share/mythtv/mythvideo/scripts/jamu.py -MF /var/lib/mythtv/videos/ /var/lib/mythtv/videos/" |
| [15:26:20] | exelnet: | which somehow doesnt work, |
| [15:27:34] | wagnerrp: | mythtv has read/write access to these files? |
| [15:28:38] | RDV_Linux: | exelnet: Start by working on a small directory before doing your whole collection. Also wagnerrp is correct about RW permissions. |
| [15:29:00] | exelnet: | wagnerrp: yes, the are owned by mythtv |
| [15:29:09] | exelnet: | RDV_Linux: its just 15 files... |
| [15:29:35] | RDV_Linux: | exelnet: There is a chance that jamu cannot parse the filename to know what to name them to. Pastbin the output from a test run. |
| [15:30:56] | RDV_Linux: | exelnet: Use the -V verbose option this time. Such as -MFV |
| [15:31:24] | justinh: | escape time! |
| [15:32:31] | wagnerrp: | escape at mid-afternoon? |
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| [15:52:42] | exelnet: | RDV_Linux: here is the output http://pastebin.com/m42b18fa4 this time with only 1 file... another file without spaces and umlauts works fine |
| [15:53:13] | RDV_Linux: | looking now back in a bit |
| [15:55:56] | RDV_Linux: | exelnet: Jamu thinks that this video file is a movie. Is that correct? |
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| [15:57:06] | exelnet: | RDV_Linux: yes |
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| [15:58:35] | RDV_Linux: | Ok then this time use the options -MIFV and you go into interactive mode where you can pick the movie from a list. If it does not work pastbin me the whole output. |
| [16:00:17] | exelnet: | RDV_Linux: this seems to work. but the metadata should indicate which movie it is? why do i have to set the movie a second time? |
| [16:00:30] | exelnet: | i ve already done it in mythvideo |
| [16:01:35] | RDV_Linux: | exelnet: I am only working the problem so am trying to eliminate what could be wrong. |
| [16:02:51] | RDV_Linux: | exelnet: Maybe some how the reference number was changed and just do not know. |
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| [16:05:32] | exelnet: | hmm well it doesnt work with any of the files |
| [16:07:09] | RDV_Linux: | exelnet: Are you sure that TMDB has the movies you are trying to rename and uses the titles you have as your file name? Jamu can only rename if they are in TMDB. |
| [16:08:05] | exelnet: | RDV_Linux: well those files have associated metadata in the database. so i thought jamu could rename those files according to the metadata |
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| [16:10:08] | RDV_Linux: | exelnet: No Jamu always uses the sources TMDB and TVDB when renaming. I think you will need to find a separate renamer script or write one. |
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| [16:10:44] | RDV_Linux: | exelnet: I am fairly sure there is a movie renamer script out there. |
| [16:11:11] | exelnet: | ah ok... |
| [16:11:14] | exelnet: | thanks |
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| [16:44:30] | gizmobay: | Every so often I get a FE segfault when I exit a recording that I accessed from the watch recordings screen. Anyone else notice this? |
| [16:44:51] | wagnerrp: | it happens, much less so than it used to |
| [16:44:59] | wagnerrp: | ive not actually seen it in a month or two |
| [16:45:19] | gizmobay: | okay, thanks |
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| [17:18:52] | justinh: | wagnerrp: 40 mins extra time today too :) |
| [17:19:18] | justinh: | be cruel to make me stay from 06:50am to 17:30 I think |
| [17:19:34] | mangus580: | awww |
| [17:20:19] | iamlindoro: | especially since justinh came in at 3 AM like that |
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| [17:25:54] | justinh: | it was around 4am actually. doggy being sick woke me up |
| [17:26:21] | wagnerrp: | hopefully not by being sick on you |
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| [17:27:01] | justinh: | nah. course since we got burgled last year the slightest noise wakes me up now |
| [17:29:27] | justinh: | heh somebody else ran into the nasty (I mean NASTY) tearing with VDPAU that I saw this morning. Pity they didn't try restarting mythfrontend after changing nvidia-settings |
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| [17:33:18] | gbee: | wonder how long we have to wait for the fallout from the xbox/pvr-350 code removal |
| [17:33:53] | justinh: | framegrabbers next? muhahahahaha |
| [17:34:47] | gbee: | trying to think of something else we can drop |
| [17:34:57] | justinh: | gawd, hate to think how slow mythfrontend is on the xbox these days, especially with themes that feature artwork ;-) |
| [17:35:17] | justinh: | even if people have upgraded their xbox to the maximum possible ram |
| [17:35:27] | justinh: | which IIRC is still only 128MB |
| [17:37:54] | justinh: | ahhh so that's why the wii optical drive LEDs are annoyingly flashing. Incoming mail or another update waiting |
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| [17:44:00] | Dubstar_04: | Has anyone encountered this with mythnews 2009-11–16 17:42:26.023 Progress count (4294967184) is higher than total (104863? |
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| [17:44:07] | iamlindoro: | gbee: .23 realse + 1 day :) |
| [17:44:12] | iamlindoro: | er release |
| [17:48:17] | mangus580: | I dont care about the xbox/pvr-350 stuff |
| [17:48:23] | mangus580: | I want my fast forward button back!!! |
| [17:48:24] | mangus580: | LMAO |
| [17:48:45] | wagnerrp: | mangus580: sure, but youre not the average flake who will want to rant on the mailing list |
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| [17:48:57] | CShadowRun: | Hi, trying to setup my mythtv box, in input connections i have /dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0, i click on it, then click scan for channels, next. It then says "Error parsing parameters" and doesn't scan |
| [17:48:58] | wagnerrp: | one day, and weve already got one 'disappointment' |
| [17:49:07] | mangus580: | wagnerrp: I think you missed the joke |
| [17:49:28] | wagnerrp: | i didnt know the fast forward button was gone |
| [17:49:32] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp: who expressed the disappointment? |
| [17:49:39] | wagnerrp: | f-myth-users |
| [17:49:54] | mangus580: | its not really, but it was all I could remember about some key's that were removed :-) |
| [17:49:58] | kormoc: | He's a high bet |
| [17:50:49] | wagnerrp: | but rather than simply complain, at least he was asking about noise levels from modern video cards |
| [17:51:21] | ** CShadowRun pokes ** | |
| [17:51:27] | mangus580: | I just like to gripe about the wiki not being linux-newb compliant :-D |
| [17:51:32] | gbee: | video cards make noise? |
| [17:51:54] | CShadowRun: | gbee i can hear my mouse moving with my twin 8800GT's |
| [17:52:09] | wagnerrp: | apparently there are no fanless GT220s available yet |
| [17:52:29] | wagnerrp: | CShadowRun: you can hear your mouse moving because you have crappy onboard sound |
| [17:52:44] | wagnerrp: | they dont properly isolate those things |
| [17:52:50] | CShadowRun: | hehe |
| [17:53:07] | CShadowRun: | Does anyone have any suggestions on my problem? |
| [17:53:08] | iamlindoro: | The confusing thing is that he, TTBOMK, is still using 0.18 |
| [17:53:19] | iamlindoro: | so what does it matter what we remove, since he'll never upgrade? |
| [17:53:24] | mangus580: | CShadowRun: stop moving the mouse! |
| [17:53:35] | CShadowRun: | mangus580, lol, i meant my mythtv problem |
| [17:53:36] | ** mangus580 is trying to fill Dagmar's shoes ** | |
| [17:53:41] | CShadowRun: | i can't scan for channels :( |
| [17:54:04] | wagnerrp: | the machines at work, i can hear scrolling/resizing/moving windows |
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| [17:55:19] | mangus580: | uh oh |
| [17:55:27] | mangus580: | I am down to 4.6 gb of recording space left :-( |
| [17:55:44] | iamlindoro: | I'm down to a mere 10 TB free |
| [17:55:55] | mangus580: | sure... rub it in |
| [17:56:06] | ** mangus580 is still accepting dontations!! ** | |
| [17:56:13] | Dubstar_04: | Can anyone play video in mythnews? |
| [17:56:37] | SeveredCross: | Dontations, eh? |
| [17:56:45] | wagnerrp: | mythnews directly? no... |
| [17:56:54] | wagnerrp: | but mythnews can open mythbrowser which can play videos |
| [17:57:19] | mangus580: | SeveredCross: yeah... I figure guys that brag about having 10TB of free drive space probably have castaway 500gb drives LOL |
| [17:57:21] | Dubstar_04: | wagnerrp: i mean like the youtube videos and what not? |
| [17:57:34] | wagnerrp: | iamlindoro: i recently discovered that we have *slightly* more storage capacity at work than you do |
| [17:57:43] | wagnerrp: | (if you dont count that stack of 1TB drives on your desk) |
| [17:57:47] | iamlindoro: | Heh... well I'm not greedy :) |
| [17:58:05] | iamlindoro: | I can live with my little array ;) |
| [17:58:37] | iamlindoro: | BTW, mythnews can play videos |
| [17:58:47] | iamlindoro: | it supports podcasts and uses the internal player to play them |
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| [17:58:56] | wagnerrp: | did not know that |
| [17:59:16] | iamlindoro: | It's nothing too special, just downloads them and plays them, but it'll do it |
| [17:59:38] | iamlindoro: | which is probably why everyone and their dog bases their internet video plugins on MythNews :) |
| [17:59:57] | gbee: | it's really ropey |
| [18:00:19] | gbee: | iamlindoro: have the final list of settings we can drop? |
| [18:00:46] | iamlindoro: | gbee: Let me get something together this morning after the Monday morning work blitz ends |
| [18:00:57] | iamlindoro: | right now I'm a bit distracted |
| [18:01:00] | wagnerrp: | speaking of internet video, what was that thing about network support in the internal player? |
| [18:01:23] | wagnerrp: | i couldnt find the channel discussion or ml post it was referencing |
| [18:01:37] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp: Someone wanting to contract a dev to add support for using a series of mms:// streams as a tuner/channel lineup |
| [18:01:43] | iamlindoro: | came in through the contact form |
| [18:01:47] | gbee: | iamlindoro: no hurry, just that I haven't been following the -users debate (not subscribed) |
| [18:02:12] | sab: | I am up versioning to 0.22 from 0.21 on amd64,mythtv-0.22.tar.bz2 build, install, configure, run all ok, trying for same with mythplugins-0.22, should I use qt3 or qt4 ? ;where put plugins source tree in mythrv tree ?; |
| [18:02:14] | iamlindoro: | ok, will try to get you something in a few hours |
| [18:02:55] | iamlindoro: | sab: just pull the whole tree as explained at http://svn.mythtv.org, and .22 builds only gainst qt4.4 or greater |
| [18:02:57] | gbee: | take a few days if you want :) |
| [18:03:02] | iamlindoro: | ok |
| [18:03:29] | iamlindoro: | sab: svn co http://svn.mythtv.org/svn/branches/release-0-22-fixes/ mythtv-0–22 |
| [18:03:42] | gbee: | there is never any shortage of things to be done, just that removing things is fun |
| [18:03:53] | Dubstar_04: | When i try to play videos in mythnews I get this: 2009-11–16 18:01:33.822 Progress count (3604532) is higher than total (385) |
| [18:03:57] | sab: | thank you will go to svn |
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| [18:05:02] | Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +v sphery | |
| [18:05:16] | wagnerrp: | whats with 'Mike Dent' starting off so many discussions so others can pick out his computer for him? |
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| [18:17:53] | iamlindoro: | gbee: Think this accounts for all the ones that got shot down: http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/1673740 |
| [18:18:14] | iamlindoro: | gbee: Though I'm sure the loud shrieking sound you will hear if you remove something sacred will notify you |
| [18:26:39] | Dagmar: | wagnerrp: Some people think they're being cunning by doing that |
| [18:27:16] | Dagmar: | I think he desperately needs a PCChips board |
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| [18:30:56] | ** wagnerrp thinks the 'Enable CD Writing' setting should be deleted outright ** | |
| [18:31:24] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp: They're all deletions of settings |
| [18:31:24] | wagnerrp: | if you dont want to write CDs, dont... why need there be a setting to disable it |
| [18:31:55] | iamlindoro: | sensible defaults doesn't mean leave the setting, it means remove the setting and set the behavior as specified |
| [18:32:22] | iamlindoro: | delete outright is for settings the do nothing/should do nothing |
| [18:39:11] | wagnerrp: | well i could make some comment about the delete outright of 'extra audio buffer', but it would just be a worthless argument |
| [18:39:42] | wagnerrp: | no sense making one |
| [18:41:29] | iamlindoro: | We should just make the internal player play right instead :) |
| [18:41:59] | iamlindoro: | Since slapping a setting on an obscure player behavior rather than fixing the core problem is a naughty kludge IMO |
| [18:42:24] | wagnerrp: | well it was set to 'always true', as the cd writing was set to 'always true', im just not understanding the difference |
| [18:42:25] | iamlindoro: | From the user's perspective (and other players manage it successfully), it should "just play" |
| [18:42:42] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp: Sorry that the format of my list isn't good enough |
| [18:43:02] | iamlindoro: | I guess this is the internet, so let's go ahead and bitch about it instead of doing anything helpful |
| [18:43:03] | wagnerrp: | like i said, theres no point to argument, since it makes no different anyway |
| [18:43:28] | wagnerrp: | i was just a bit confused |
| [18:45:34] | CShadowRun: | anyone care to help me getting my DVB-S card to work? It's a dm1105...i'm not getting much life out of it |
| [18:45:51] | CShadowRun: | running mythbuntu 9.10 |
| [18:46:15] | wagnerrp: | you said the driver was installed, you had the dev node, you just couldnt tune/scan? |
| [18:46:26] | CShadowRun: | yea i think so |
| [18:46:28] | CShadowRun: | it shows up fine in dmesg |
| [18:46:46] | CShadowRun: | and in /dev/dvb, so that makes me assume that it's driver is ok |
| [18:46:58] | CShadowRun: | but when i click scan for channels it just says invalid parameters |
| [18:46:58] | Dagmar: | Absolutely amazing the number of people who can't get dvs-s to work... |
| [18:47:01] | wagnerrp: | possibly some permissions issue? can you use it in any external players? (i dont know what else supports dvb-s) |
| [18:47:13] | Dagmar: | ...and tend to blame a lack of documentation... |
| [18:47:23] | Dagmar: | ...and then never write a single line of documentation once they're done. |
| [18:47:36] | CShadowRun: | wagnerrp, i dunno any either |
| [18:47:53] | CShadowRun: | someone in ubuntu-uk tried some stuff using dvbtune and dvbstream and mplayer and didn't get any results |
| [18:47:55] | CShadowRun: | so i guess not |
| [18:48:16] | CShadowRun: | (I didn't understand most of it, he seemed to be manually passing frequencies to tune to and everything) |
| [18:48:57] | CShadowRun: | good news is i found people with my problem |
| [18:49:00] | justinh: | szap with a .conf file should to the job |
| [18:49:09] | CShadowRun: | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1212133 this exact problem |
| [18:49:19] | ** justinh doesnt do forums ** | |
| [18:50:18] | CShadowRun: | specially post #8, when i run scan that's what i get |
| [18:50:29] | CShadowRun: | and #10 is exactly the same as my dmesg output |
| [18:50:47] | CShadowRun: | nobody seems to have found a solution on the thread, though |
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| [18:51:29] | justinh: | #linuxtv |
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| [18:51:45] | justinh: | if they can't help you nobody here can |
| [18:51:54] | CShadowRun: | k ty |
| [18:52:10] | justinh: | you might just be missing the firmware |
| [18:52:26] | justinh: | I've seen cards get device nodes created etc – they just won't tune without firmware |
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| [18:57:49] | wagnerrp: | does Mark Cuban have a buttload of Microsoft stock? or is he just a wacko? |
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| [18:59:19] | justinh: | who? |
| [19:00:00] | wagnerrp: | apparently he has just offered $1M to each of the top 1000 websites by rank to delist from Google in favor of Bing |
| [19:00:27] | justinh: | heh |
| [19:01:33] | Dagmar: | So Microsoft just paid him a hundred million dollars did they? |
| [19:01:41] | Dagmar: | You know they've got the cash |
| [19:01:51] | justinh: | haven't tried bing yet. doubt I ever will |
| [19:01:54] | wagnerrp: | (billion) |
| [19:02:10] | devinheitmueller: | that's with a *B* |
| [19:02:12] | devinheitmueller: | :-) |
| [19:02:24] | Dagmar: | I don't know about you, but I wouldn't do that for anything less than ten percent commission, dude. |
| [19:02:40] | Dagmar: | So, before you get on your high horse about me not typing 'billion', read again. |
| [19:02:44] | Dagmar: | :P |
| [19:03:04] | wagnerrp: | so microsoft paid him $100M to spend $1B of his own cash? |
| [19:03:15] | ** wagnerrp hides ** | |
| [19:03:26] | justinh: | anyway, as if that'd make much difference |
| [19:03:42] | justinh: | MS will forever be paying the price for Gates ignoring the potential of the inter-tubes |
| [19:03:44] | devinheitmueller: | I hear he's not a very good businessperson. I would think he might have been better to get Microsoft to pay him 1.1 billion. |
| [19:04:36] | justinh: | could be worse. could be peeing his money into huggly linux distros |
| [19:04:47] | iamlindoro: | Of course he's not a good businessman-- have you seen the Dallas Maverick's play? |
| [19:05:14] | Dagmar: | I'm _sure_ he's not spending a billion of his own money on that |
| [19:05:17] | iamlindoro: | Buy a team that doesn't suck, Mark |
| [19:05:26] | Dagmar: | His own kids would file to have him committed. |
| [19:09:42] | Dagmar: | Wait heheh |
| [19:09:52] | Dagmar: | The DoJ could file suit against Cuban for that |
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| [19:12:20] | PeaceKeeper: | does ttvdb.py work since thetvdb.com is down? |
| [19:12:31] | wagnerrp: | no |
| [19:12:42] | wagnerrp: | it will not work until the API server comes back online |
| [19:15:57] | sphery: | "[mythtv-users] Database upgrade 0.21 -> 0.22: issue to avoid" |
| [19:15:59] | sphery: | *sigh* |
| [19:17:19] | PeaceKeeper: | wagnerrp: ok thx. That is what I thought :) |
| [19:17:54] | wagnerrp: | the forums are still online, so you can check back there for updates on when it will be back up |
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| [19:32:46] | Dubstar_04: | is it possible to round the corners of an imgetype? |
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| [19:33:09] | wagnerrp: | Dubstar_04: better asked in #mythtv-theming |
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| [19:34:54] | justinh: | Dubstar_04: got yer answer. see you in the other channel |
| [19:34:55] | iamlindoro: | But the short answer is, you would need to apply a mask |
| [19:35:20] | iamlindoro: | and yes, -theming for followups would be best |
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| [19:38:25] | gpd: | just upgraded to karmic – now mythtv user logs into gnome and i get flicker / slowdowns – what window manager do people use for frontend? |
| [19:38:40] | sab: | got svn http://svn.mythtv.org/svn/branches/release-0-22-fixes/ mythtv-0–22;make build & install ok;mythconverg.settings table shows mytharchive settings;no mytharchive menu options in mythfrontend; any suggestions ? |
| [19:39:22] | wagnerrp: | technically you dont need any window manager for the frontend |
| [19:39:40] | wagnerrp: | but people generally end up using evilwm, ratpoison, or some other similarly light frontend |
| [19:39:52] | wagnerrp: | just enough to deal with any focus issues that may occur |
| [19:40:01] | wagnerrp: | s/frontend/window manager/ |
| [19:40:31] | wagnerrp: | flickers and slowdowns sounds more like some kind of video driver issue though |
| [19:40:33] | gpd: | wagnerrp: thanks – what do you use? |
| [19:40:48] | wagnerrp: | issues with an ATI card specifically |
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| [19:40:54] | gpd: | actually two issues – one is vsync when running in gnome |
| [19:41:07] | gpd: | the other stuttering – probably caused by 1680x1050 |
| [19:41:10] | wagnerrp: | either that, or you may be having conflicts with something like compiz |
| [19:41:29] | gpd: | yes – compiz currently an issue with gnome |
| [19:41:51] | gpd: | will set up evilwm / whatever is suggested |
| [19:42:05] | wagnerrp: | its all personal preference |
| [19:42:09] | gpd: | then will set x11 resolution with nvidia-control to lower |
| [19:42:30] | wagnerrp: | 1680x1050 is a perfectly fine resolution to run at if your TV is native to that |
| [19:42:34] | gpd: | but not sure what is best res for UK freeview – must be near 720x576? |
| [19:43:00] | gpd: | wagnerrp: ok – so that isn't the issue then? I'll focus on getting rid of gnome / compiz |
| [19:43:42] | justinh: | gpd: depends if your TV is CRT or not.. and if not, how good its native scaling is |
| [19:43:57] | wagnerrp: | although unless you have some monitor re-purposed as a TV (often done on TVs <24"), you will probably be better off running 1280x720 or 1920x1080 |
| [19:44:05] | gpd: | not CRT – right now using a Del LCD as 'tv'. |
| [19:44:06] | gbee: | 1024x576 |
| [19:44:27] | justinh: | gpd: so then always run at the native res of the flat panel |
| [19:44:37] | wagnerrp: | on an LCD, you should always run at the native res if possible |
| [19:44:38] | gbee: | ^^^ |
| [19:44:42] | gpd: | justinh: ok – great thx |
| [19:44:48] | justinh: | gbee: that's alright if your driver offers that res :-\ |
| [19:44:49] | wagnerrp: | although on most LCD TVs, thats not possible since they overscan |
| [19:44:56] | gbee: | justinh was faster :) |
| [19:45:06] | justinh: | nothing wrong with letting an overscanning TV continue to overscan |
| [19:45:09] | gpd: | so the fact that I was running mythtv-frontend with 95% CPU is not related to resolution? |
| [19:45:13] | gbee: | buy Sony |
| [19:45:19] | justinh: | unless you like noticing the crud at the sides, top & bottom |
| [19:45:45] | gpd: | and when 'action' or horizontal pans it would stutter... |
| [19:45:48] | justinh: | or in the case of digital TV, the *nothing* :P |
| [19:45:50] | wagnerrp: | justinh: well you generally cant give it a signal at its native res |
| [19:46:05] | gpd: | should I be looking into the filtering / something in mythtv rendering? |
| [19:46:19] | justinh: | wagnerrp: what you mean is you can't give it the *viewable* resolution ? |
| [19:46:31] | justinh: | gpd: deinterlacing & sync to vblank |
| [19:46:56] | gpd: | justinh: ok – thanks – will rtfm on that :) |
| [19:47:24] | wagnerrp: | i mean theres no reason trying to send it something funky at 1360x768 when even then its still going to scale the image |
| [19:47:30] | gpd: | is there an obvious choice of lightweight WM too? |
| [19:47:58] | justinh: | tried playback on my new backend properly this morning. it sucked til I disabled compositing (simple nvidia xconfig option) and enabled vsync in nvidia settings then restarted mythfrontend |
| [19:48:16] | justinh: | aww so no bending teevees around a cube. Meh |
| [19:48:26] | wagnerrp: | ratpoison, evilwm, fluxbox, xfce, ... there any number that will use under a couple MB and will get out of the way when myth is full screen |
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| [19:48:49] | gpd: | wagnerrp: too much choice :D |
| [19:49:11] | wagnerrp: | compositing wants to bend you around a cube.... |
| [19:49:28] | sab: | can anyone help with mytharchive plugin? |
| [19:50:26] | justinh: | sudo apt-get uninstall mytharchive ? |
| [19:50:40] | justinh: | problem solved! |
| [19:51:01] | justinh: | bugger. I forgot some people just type stuff in that they see in IRC channels |
| [19:51:52] | gpd: | looks like fluxbox is well regarded |
| [19:52:38] | sab: | is there a different channel that might have someone who can help with mytharchive? |
| [19:52:41] | justinh: | tried evilwm a good while back. couldn't get the title bars to go away |
| [19:52:51] | gpd: | ratpoison seems to be trying to do away with the mouse |
| [19:53:00] | justinh: | sab: maybe if you ask a specific question about mytharchive, related to the problem you're having... (!) |
| [19:54:33] | justinh: | i.e. put a little bit of effort in, and people might be able to help |
| [19:54:55] | gpd: | hah – xmonad! mmm... |
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| [19:57:09] | sab: | I installed mythplugins-0.22 from svn;build, install on amd64 ok;mythfrontend menus now have entrys for weather, netflix etc but not mytharchive;mythconverg.settings was updated and has entrys for mytharchive;any idea why mytharchice isn't working? |
| [19:58:21] | iamlindoro: | You need to explain what is not working... |
| [19:58:30] | iamlindoro: | ie, where are you expecting to find it? |
| [20:01:26] | sab: | There should be two new mytharchice items in mythfrontend, new menu items for mythweather, netflix, etc appear but nothing from mytharchive. |
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| [20:03:51] | iamlindoro: | *Where* are you looking? |
| [20:03:59] | iamlindoro: | Christ, this is like pulling teeth |
| [20:04:14] | iamlindoro: | and if you say "The frontend," so help me... |
| [20:04:33] | ivor: | pulling teeth is pretty straightforward surely? get a set of pliers... |
| [20:04:58] | iamlindoro: | ivor: Depends purely on which side of the equation you're on ;) |
| [20:06:17] | sab: | Sorry I can't be more on point thanks anyway. |
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| [20:06:39] | iamlindoro: | So... you're just not going to give the requested info? |
| [20:06:45] | iamlindoro: | Sigh |
| [20:07:06] | justinh: | charter cable, so English a possible first language. heh |
| [20:07:30] | iamlindoro: | Charter in Louisiana, so all bets are off |
| [20:07:34] | iamlindoro: | clover hooves are likely |
| [20:07:37] | iamlindoro: | er cloven |
| [20:07:44] | justinh: | clover works too |
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| [20:08:05] | iamlindoro: | He was late for a date with his sister anyway |
| [20:08:22] | Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +v janneg | |
| [20:08:51] | ** wagnerrp makes frantic claims that northern kentucky is different ** | |
| [20:09:08] | ivor: | I always wonder that people are able to use IRC to start off with? surely that implies a certain predetermined level of ability |
| [20:09:21] | justinh: | ivor: heard of mirc? ;-) |
| [20:09:22] | wagnerrp: | oh, louisiana, not lousiville |
| [20:09:27] | iamlindoro: | More and more people ubuntu-ing their way onto freenode these days |
| [20:09:53] | ** iamlindoro rips the September off his calendar and finds another September underneath ** | |
| [20:09:56] | ** ivor loses all faith in humanity ** | |
| [20:10:18] | justinh: | I just lost faith in the whole fricking project again |
| [20:10:55] | justinh: | the 'guiding hand' approach wins once more wooo |
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| [20:17:07] | kormoc: | justinh: ooh? |
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| [20:20:37] | Greek-Boy: | hi |
| [20:20:54] | ** wagnerrp thinks the thetvdb outage is just to let people know how much they need it ** | |
| [20:20:55] | Greek-Boy: | anyone here got VDPAU running on ACER Revo with ubuntu 9.10? |
| [20:21:09] | wagnerrp: | watch the donations pour in when it comes back online |
| [20:21:17] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp: heheh |
| [20:21:46] | wagnerrp: | Greek-Boy: plenty, check the mailing list archives for several discussions about it |
| [20:22:28] | wagnerrp: | absence makes the heart grow fonder |
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| [20:23:46] | errr-or: | hi, i have trouble getting my Hauppauge Nova S2 (PVR 4000 lite) to work with mythtv 0.22. It works well with kaffeine. i also can do a manual scan like: sudo scan -l UNIVERSAL -s 0/usr/share/dvb/dvb- s/Astra-19.2E > ~/channels.conf. But i cannot import that file to mythtv. MythTV doesnt scan at all. And i also tried 3 different firmware versions. x86_64. Where to look next? |
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| [20:25:51] | janneg: | errr-or: which kernel? |
| [20:26:33] | errr-or: | 2.6.31 |
| [20:27:10] | janneg: | is the card displayed as DVB-S2 in mythtv-setup? |
| [20:27:19] | errr-or: | yes |
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| [20:27:45] | janneg: | errr-or: how do you scan in mythtv-setup? |
| [20:28:24] | metalac: | hey guys with 0.22 I can't play DVDs. I get something like: "unable to find map file" and "failed to read video_ts.ifo" |
| [20:28:35] | metalac: | also get "failed to open DVD device at /dev/dvd" |
| [20:28:39] | metalac: | but permissions look ok to me |
| [20:31:22] | errr-or: | janneg: i added the card as "DVB DTV TV Card". for TV data i chose EIT / europe west. then i got to channel editor --> scan channels. there i choose "Input: DVB: /dev/dvb0/adapter0/frontend0". i fill in a freq from a tut i use. and try to scan. |
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| [20:32:28] | errr-or: | janneg: frequency i use 12551500 symbolrate 22000000 V the rest as it is |
| [20:32:36] | janneg: | errr-or: scanning for 11362000 horizontal 22000000 modulation 8PSK fec 2/3 and modulation system D VB-S2 should work |
| [20:33:36] | errr-or: | janneg: i get found no channels |
| [20:33:44] | janneg: | but the one you tried should work too |
| [20:34:22] | janneg: | errr-or: try to increase the timeouts of the cards. have configured a LNB? |
| [20:35:00] | errr-or: | janneg: lnb? i dont think so, software specific :) |
| [20:35:17] | errr-or: | metalac: any dvd you wanna play? |
| [20:36:01] | errr-or: | janneg: where do i setup my lnb? |
| [20:36:03] | janneg: | errr-or: diseqc config in the card setup. menu 2 of mythtv-setup |
| [20:36:37] | errr-or: | janneg: i didnt touch this because i dont use disecq. i'll try right now |
| [20:36:49] | metalac: | errr-or: unfortunately i only have one dvd, it's from netflix i think it should be ok plays fine on other computers |
| [20:36:52] | bagpuss_thecat: | are there any patches or plugins available for backends that allows them to retransmit all the radio stations on a single mux over a multicast network when the dvb-t cards are not in use? |
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| [20:37:54] | janneg: | errr-or: you have to configure a single lnb even if you don't have a diseqc-switch |
| [20:38:08] | errr-or: | janneg: that was the 'error' im hunting for some hours |
| [20:38:22] | errr-or: | janneg: seems im reading the wrong howtos... |
| [20:40:30] | errr-or: | metalac: does it play within kaffeine or totem ? |
| [20:40:43] | metalac: | errr-or: thanks for help but it looks like my issue was with missing libdvdcss2 |
| [20:41:11] | errr-or: | metalac: thats what i would tell as next ;) |
| [20:41:49] | metalac: | errr-or: it's been a while since i built a fresh system so I forgot all the things that I need to have runing |
| [20:42:14] | errr-or: | metalac: im just building... first time mythtv :D second try today. |
| [20:42:36] | metalac: | errr-or: good luck :). I've been running it since 0.18 and never looked back :D |
| [20:42:52] | errr-or: | metalac: next step is my remote :P |
| [20:43:05] | errr-or: | metalac: already serving data to my ps3 :D |
| [20:43:25] | metalac: | errr-or: what are you doing with ps3? |
| [20:44:02] | errr-or: | metalac: for now watching movies and listen to my music. |
| [20:44:26] | metalac: | errr-or: oh you're using it as a frontend? |
| [20:44:41] | wagnerrp: | bagpuss_thecat: nothing of the sort, although you may be able to tie in some kind of functionality using the EIT code |
| [20:45:24] | errr-or: | metalac: yes. running mediatomb and transcoding my flac files on the fly to listen to them with my ps3. my soundcard still has no support for ac3 and this 'complicated' stuff :) |
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| [20:48:24] | janneg: | errr-or: is the scanning working now? |
| [20:48:50] | metalac: | errr-or: i've been meaning to get my ps3 as a frontend one of these days just to see how it performs |
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| [20:49:58] | errr-or: | janneg: yes it scanned some channels. but seems fill mythdb doesnt work. it was just open for a second or so. if i choose watch tv in mythtv i get please wait... and get back to the menu |
| [20:50:53] | errr-or: | metalac: if you just need some basic xvid, flac, mp3 support you can easily setup mediatomb. for more complex stuff you need to read some more ;) |
| [20:51:41] | errr-or: | metalac: i got the new slim, and i just realised a few days after i got it at home that it doesnt support linux anymore :( |
| [20:52:39] | metalac: | errr-or: good thing i got the old fat one :D |
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| [20:54:32] | errr-or: | metalac: yeah it the best bluray player out there imho :D |
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| [21:02:09] | bagpuss_thecat: | wagnerrp: cool, I'll have a look (although I'm no coder, other than Bash :-) |
| [21:03:09] | wagnerrp: | bagpuss_thecat: it would not be a simple project |
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| [21:05:57] | bagpuss_thecat: | wagnerrp: I can imagine not :-) |
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| [21:20:57] | gpd: | how the hell do i get fluxbox to be the WM for mythtv? .... aaahahah! |
| [21:21:47] | gpd: | clearly .xsession is being ignored... |
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| [21:24:43] | Hoxzer: | gpd: ~/.fluxbox/apps add line: [startup] (mythfrontend) |
| [21:25:15] | gpd: | Hoxzer: wouldn't that start mythfrontend in a live fluxbox session? |
| [21:25:34] | gpd: | my issue is that i can't start fluxbox... |
| [21:25:42] | Hoxzer: | aaah |
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| [21:28:07] | gpd: | trying .xinitrc instead of .xsession ... |
| [21:28:50] | gpd: | nope... |
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| [21:31:05] | gpd: | i must have to specify it in the gdm.conf – as it is clearly not starting a custom session |
| [21:31:15] | jeffjeffdejeff: | how do i delete all the recorded programs from my list? i've deleted the recordings from the folder, but the information is still showing |
| [21:33:24] | kormoc: | by deleting them in the frontend one by one? |
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| [21:34:09] | defaultro: | gdp, my xinitrc contains exec /usr/bin/startfluxbox |
| [21:34:14] | jeffjeffdejeff: | that's what i'm trying to avoid kormoc :) |
| [21:34:26] | kormoc: | that's the supported method |
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| [21:34:41] | defaultro: | gdp, it's in /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc |
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| [21:37:46] | wagnerrp: | gpd: if you want autologin, and and dont have multiple users, gdm is overkill |
| [21:38:06] | wagnerrp: | either add a 'startx' somewhere in the init scripts |
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| [21:38:16] | wagnerrp: | or add an X server to one of the terminals |
| [21:38:34] | jeffjeffdejeff: | kormoc: what about an unsupported method? |
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| [21:39:23] | wagnerrp: | jeffjeffdejeff: if youve deleted all the files, there is a perl script in contrib which will remove orphaned recordings |
| [21:41:42] | gpd: | wagnerrp: good point – removing. what the hell :) |
| [21:42:54] | gpd: | bah – dependency hell |
| [21:43:56] | jeffjeffdejeff: | /usr/share/doc/mythtv-backend/contrib/myth.find_orphans.pl.gz |
| [21:43:57] | jeffjeffdejeff: | ? |
| [21:44:11] | gpd: | wagnerrp: i am currently not set up to be able to log in manually as mythtv user – is this normal? |
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| [21:48:55] | defaultro: | gdp, you can use gdm to autologin your mythtv account |
| [21:49:11] | defaultro: | modify custom.conf |
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| [21:51:33] | wagnerrp: | the only reason you could not log in manually as mythtv is if mythtv had no password or had no defined shell |
| [21:51:52] | xris is now known as ex-nerd | |
| [21:51:56] | wagnerrp: | either of which should preclude gdm from starting a desktop session as well |
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| [21:52:31] | Baylink: | QUERY: MythTV-Setup: Could someone remind me how one deletes an association between a card and a program source? We have one tuner out of 4 that doesn't work right, and it's somehow gotten coupled to our cable schedule. Do I not have a Delete button *because* I didn't shut down the backend? |
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| [21:53:42] | wagnerrp: | open up mythtv-setup, go to card input (option 4), select your input, and cycle through the video sources until you get none |
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| [21:54:11] | Dagmar: | Updated http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/DHCP_Server a bit to make many things clearer |
| [21:54:22] | wagnerrp: | or, option 2, just delete the tuner card from mythtv |
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| [21:55:50] | wagnerrp: | does NFS have any sort of connection queue? |
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| [21:56:08] | wagnerrp: | or does the client just keep hitting the server with requests until a process opens up to serve it? |
| [21:56:32] | Baylink: | I missed that None was a choice there; thanks. |
| [21:56:55] | wagnerrp: | when the number of nodes >> the number of nfs pre-forked processes |
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| [22:11:00] | hads: | Anyone seeing livetv seek issues? I see #6817 which refers to h264 and was fixed. This appears to be only on MPEG2 DVB-S, the PVR-150 input is still working fine. |
| [22:11:46] | hads: | I should say, the only DVB-S I have is MPEG, and that is what the issue is showing on. |
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| [22:13:14] | hads: | The OSD just shows 0:01 of 0:01 all the time. |
| [22:14:38] | jeffjeffdejeff: | trouble archiving an .avi movie to dvd. get error failed while running ffmpeg to re-encode video – any suggestions? |
| [22:15:47] | keith4: | my cable provider decided to move all of their channels around. any way to update recording schedules to use new channels (fetched from SD), or should I just re-make them? |
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| [22:18:55] | linxeh: | where should I look to debug why I can't rip DVDs in mythtv ? |
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| [22:22:28] | wagnerrp: | keith4: this is analog? |
| [22:24:59] | keith4: | wagnerrp: no. it's a long story... |
| [22:25:16] | keith4: | actually, they shut off all analog during this most recent transition |
| [22:25:28] | wagnerrp: | are they allowed to do that? |
| [22:25:28] | keith4: | i'm using firewire + HD box, currently |
| [22:25:40] | keith4: | sure they are |
| [22:25:56] | wagnerrp: | i thought you had to carry at least the local stations for the next several years |
| [22:26:08] | keith4: | of course, lots of customers who don't buy into their "you need a converter box for every TV" bullshit are jumping ship to a competitor |
| [22:27:23] | keith4: | i really can't complain, i guess. they added about 40 more HD channels |
| [22:27:39] | devinheitmueller: | wagnerrp: they are required to carry the "must carry" channels in ClearQAM if they get rid of the analog equivalents. |
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| [22:27:49] | keith4: | and threw in all the showtime networks, HD, for 3 momths |
| [22:27:51] | keith4: | months |
| [22:27:58] | keith4: | yes, they do have the major networks in clear QAM |
| [22:28:05] | Dagmar: | Ooo free softcore |
| [22:28:15] | keith4: | so my pchdtv5000 isn't *totally* useless |
| [22:28:17] | devinheitmueller: | But that basically means you go from getting a few dozen analog channels to getting something like 12 channels in ClearQAM (most of which are in a foreign language) |
| [22:28:19] | wagnerrp: | i thought they were required to provide the analog versions as well |
| [22:28:24] | devinheitmueller: | nope. |
| [22:28:43] | devinheitmueller: | The requirement is that they just have to carry the "must carry" channels in an unencrypted form. |
| [22:29:03] | keith4: | i used to figure out all the digital -> analog mappings for myth, but i gave up around the 3rd or 4th time they moved everything, and got their HD box |
| [22:29:04] | wagnerrp: | well that explains how my phoneco doesnt have to carry analog cable |
| [22:29:17] | devinheitmueller: | yup. |
| [22:29:42] | wagnerrp: | (even though they provide QAM) |
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| [22:30:05] | keith4: | i miss the glory days when my cableco had *all* clear QAM |
| [22:30:16] | keith4: | except ESPN, oddly enough |
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| [22:30:35] | ernstp: | do you need mythfilldatabase for the eit/epg? |
| [22:30:42] | devinheitmueller: | keith4: they probably couldn't carry EPSN in the clear due to a carriage agreement. |
| [22:31:01] | wagnerrp: | i remember the glory days when i didnt have to pay extra for my internet access due to ESPN360 |
| [22:31:03] | ernstp: | I'm having trouble getting mythtv to read my epg after 60 seconds of idle |
| [22:31:03] | keith4: | indeed. still can't, apparently |
| [22:31:23] | keith4: | they've finally caught up with the competition, it seems, with their HD offerings |
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| [22:31:53] | keith4: | http://www.rcn.com/lehigh-valley/digital-cabl . . . hd_option=hd |
| [22:32:50] | devinheitmueller: | I swear I really should build a cheap OOB tuner and sell it to MythTV users so that they can automatically get EIT data and detect their channels being moved around. |
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| [22:33:06] | keith4: | devinheitmueller: i would pay good money for that |
| [22:33:29] | wagnerrp: | i would be happy with just channel movements |
| [22:33:49] | devinheitmueller: | most people would be happy just if the channel movements could be automatically detected. |
| [22:33:53] | keith4: | i would be happy just being *notified* about movements |
| [22:34:02] | keith4: | so that i didn't find out by recording static |
| [22:34:05] | keith4: | for a week |
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| [22:35:39] | keith4: | actually, it would be neat if I could somehow suck the mappings out of the cable box. because it's obviously in there somewhere |
| [22:36:14] | devinheitmueller: | Yeah, the cable box gets the data using the OOB tuner. |
| [22:36:46] | wagnerrp: | im a bit surprised theres no mechanism to pull that over from firewire |
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| [22:36:52] | Dagmar: | keith4: Yes, but that would interfere with the cable company's plan to force you to rent their PVR |
| [22:37:02] | keith4: | Dagmar: ah, that's true |
| [22:37:14] | wagnerrp: | for TVs that support firewire, how do they get a channel lineup? |
| [22:37:44] | Dagmar: | The STB probably does all the tuning |
| [22:37:59] | wagnerrp: | but how does the TV tell it what to tune to |
| [22:38:13] | Dagmar: | Prolly tells it "5.3" and nothing more specific than that is my guess |
| [22:38:24] | Dagmar: | Either that or those people with their firewire TVs are _real_ pissed most of the time |
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| [22:39:00] | keith4: | if it's similar to how my firewire setup works... you just tell the box "175" |
| [22:39:14] | keith4: | or, in my case, 1006 now |
| [22:39:36] | wagnerrp: | right, but im asking how the tv knows theres something at channel 175 |
| [22:39:44] | wagnerrp: | can it request a channel list? |
| [22:39:57] | wagnerrp: | do you have to scan through all thousand or so possible channels? |
| [22:40:15] | keith4: | no idea |
| [22:40:25] | keith4: | i'd imagine it scans |
| [22:40:40] | rhpot1991: | I'd venture it works just like hdmi, its just a signal going into the tv and you have 2 devices to control |
| [22:41:03] | keith4: | no, the firewire is definitely bidirectional |
| [22:41:10] | clever: | keith4: what about having mythbackend detect garbage recordings? |
| [22:41:26] | wagnerrp: | well then you may as well just use one of the other interconnects, there would be no purpose to firewire at all |
| [22:41:34] | clever: | ive seen the bitrate of my files sky rocket when it was static, trying to encode the totaly random noise |
| [22:41:43] | keith4: | clever: yah, i thought about it. the recordings always ended up being like 976 bytes, or something absurdly small |
| [22:41:47] | clever: | and ive seen the bitrates drop to almost nothing when the STB gave a single static error frame |
| [22:42:06] | Dagmar: | Not much to put in but the occasional i-frame |
| [22:42:17] | keith4: | well, this wasn't really static, since it was all digital |
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| [22:43:25] | keith4: | i guess mythtv detected some sort of problem, and aborted |
| [22:43:50] | keith4: | it would certainly be possible to just scan the logs for failures, and alert via email or whatever, i guess |
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| [22:44:24] | clever: | it would be nice for it to retry capture after abort |
| [22:44:34] | clever: | and maybe send an alert to the frontends, which can show a popup warning |
| [22:44:42] | rhpot1991: | keith4: http://forums.audioholics.com/forums/archive/ . . . /t-6357.html |
| [22:44:54] | rhpot1991: | claims that tv uses firewire to control devices, but not any audio/video |
| [22:45:12] | keith4: | ew! |
| [22:45:18] | keith4: | "it's a crap proprietary thing from Mitsubishi. They do NOT follow firewire protocol standards – so you can't even hook your camcorder up to the TV using that firewire port." |
| [22:45:29] | rhpot1991: | heh ya |
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| [22:46:07] | keith4: | ah, so they gimped it to work like an IR blaster? |
| [22:46:14] | keith4: | ... that sucks |
| [22:46:57] | rhpot1991: | ya, I know samsung has some sort of technology like that now |
| [22:47:08] | rhpot1991: | where I can control random devices with my tv remote all flowing through my tv |
| [22:47:18] | rhpot1991: | google is less than useful on any firewire tv information |
| [22:47:25] | keith4: | i actually go the other way. my TV has a serial port |
| [22:47:51] | iamlindoro: | mythplugins/mythtwitter/mythtwitter# |
| [22:47:58] | iamlindoro: | Heh... bet someone would like to play with that ;) |
| [22:48:19] | keith4: | back in the glory days of analog cable, i had a script that did "see what channel the TV is on, change myth to that channel, and then change the TV to the myth input" |
| [22:48:57] | keith4: | so, one button on my myth remote was "switch to Myth without losing any of this show" |
| [22:49:27] | rhpot1991: | iamlindoro: how about a mythdenti.ca instead |
| [22:49:40] | iamlindoro: | meh, we'll see |
| [22:49:52] | iamlindoro: | Twitter is easy because I can hook into a pre-existing Qt lib for it |
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| [22:50:30] | iamlindoro: | And I don't even use twitter ;) |
| [22:50:37] | rhpot1991: | identi.ca should be easier with more open specs I'd think |
| [22:50:55] | rhpot1991: | ya I don't touch twitter at all, I use identi.ca from time to time to shamelessly self promote |
| [22:51:30] | iamlindoro: | specs aren't really the issue, it's that there's a pre-existing Qt lib for twitter that makes posting a status update this: |
| [22:51:43] | iamlindoro: | m_twitter.Login(m_login, m_password); |
| [22:51:43] | iamlindoro: | m_twitter.PostNewStatus(m_tweet->GetText(), 0, m_source); |
| [22:51:44] | iamlindoro: | m_twitter.Logout(); |
| [22:52:03] | iamlindoro: | easy peasy, just threw it together while bored at work |
| [22:52:07] | iamlindoro: | don't tell my boss |
| [22:52:41] | Dagmar: | Yes, that's what Twitter needs. |
| [22:52:59] | laga: | Dagmar: for their breakthrough? |
| [22:53:00] | Dagmar: | #rednecktv is now watching channel 43. |
| [22:53:02] | Dagmar: | #rednecktv is now watching channel 44. |
| [22:53:05] | Dagmar: | #rednecktv is now watching channel 45. |
| [22:53:11] | Dagmar: | ...ad nauseum. |
| [22:53:18] | iamlindoro: | You must not have looked at twitter lately |
| [22:53:20] | kormoc: | meh, they have worse already |
| [22:53:23] | wagnerrp: | i was thinking it would list the actual tv show |
| [22:53:26] | iamlindoro: | it's already full of everything every myth user is recording |
| [22:53:35] | wagnerrp: | #rednecktv is now watching Backdoor Sluts 9 |
| [22:53:39] | Dagmar: | iamlindoro: I have. I've seen people using the twitter interface to Champions Online |
| [22:53:45] | iamlindoro: | anyway, it's not hooked into watching/recording at all |
| [22:53:58] | wagnerrp: | #rednecktv has rewound Backdoor Sluts 9 |
| [22:54:00] | iamlindoro: | It's just there to pop up a quick text entry/send an update |
| [22:54:05] | kormoc: | http://twitter.com/ffluvsmythtv |
| [22:54:06] | wagnerrp: | #rednecktv has rewound Backdoor Sluts 9 |
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| [22:54:16] | iamlindoro: | Just a little MythUI exercise |
| [22:54:46] | keith4: | wagnerrp: niiiice |
| [22:54:48] | kormoc: | Haha, why put the *time* of the recording in the tweet when it's already there? |
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| [22:55:06] | keith4: | twitter integration is getting out of control |
| [22:55:29] | keith4: | i just fired up Uncharted 2 on the PS3 over the weekend. it can hook into twitter, to tell everyone your progress, and when you die, etc. |
| [22:55:36] | kormoc: | yup |
| [22:55:56] | Wicked: | is there an easy way to have mythtv rename the files it records to the hdd?...would be cool if they where the show names and not the channel_airdate.mpg |
| [22:56:04] | laga: | keith4: penny arcade had a comic on that |
| [22:56:05] | iamlindoro: | Anyway, just occurred to me that we've removed two plugins without adding any, and that I want to add some fun new stuff people might like |
| [22:56:05] | kormoc: | and with twitter lists now, I can put you in the 'never going to read' list and totally ignore you while still 'following' you |
| [22:56:08] | PeaceKeeper: | mythtwitter (?) Oh my! |
| [22:56:13] | iamlindoro: | and he with the code, decides |
| [22:56:32] | kormoc: | iamlindoro: identi.ca support as well? ;) |
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| [22:56:38] | keith4: | Wicked: google "myth pretty" |
| [22:56:50] | iamlindoro: | kormoc: Would be a lot more work, there's already a Qt twitter library that I'm hooking in to |
| [22:57:02] | kormoc: | shh |
| [22:57:22] | Wicked: | keith4, hehe. ok. let me see what google turns up |
| [22:57:23] | wagnerrp: | Wicked: it is ill advised to rename myth's files |
| [22:57:23] | Dagmar: | Meh. Just call some perl and use the next four hours you'd have used working with Qt to do something useful |
| [22:57:32] | laga: | maybe identi.ca implemenets the same API |
| [22:57:35] | wagnerrp: | and you absolutely dont want to rename files as they are still recording |
| [22:57:50] | Wicked: | wagnerrp, hmm. why would it be a bad idea to rename the files? |
| [22:57:51] | laga: | implements* |
| [22:57:52] | keith4: | doesn't the pretty stuff use symlinks? |
| [22:58:01] | wagnerrp: | better to just use 'mythrename.pl' with the --link option, to create pretty symlinks in a separate directory |
| [22:58:10] | PeaceKeeper: | I think twitter on mythtv would be cool, but twitter every recording? |
| [22:58:11] | keith4: | Wicked: because Myth will never find them again |
| [22:58:28] | wagnerrp: | keith4: no, you can set the file name in the database to whatever you want |
| [22:58:39] | wagnerrp: | its just suggested that you keep them as the default |
| [22:58:43] | kormoc: | PeaceKeeper: if you didn't do every recording, why bother? |
| [22:58:44] | keith4: | meh |
| [22:58:52] | Wicked: | hmm. i just wanted to have them renamed after they are done recording...but still keep all the data of the original recording in mythtv. |
| [22:58:59] | wagnerrp: | i dont know if mythrename has any protection against currently recording files |
| [22:59:35] | wagnerrp: | Wicked: right, use mythrename.pl, use the link option, and use as many calls as you want for different name formats |
| [22:59:51] | wagnerrp: | i have one that lets me search by day, another than lets me search by show title |
| [23:00:01] | wagnerrp: | and theyre set on a cron to run five minutes past the half hour |
| [23:00:18] | Wicked: | hmm ok. ill have to look over mythrename.pl and how to use it. |
| [23:00:38] | Wicked: | if its gonna be a big pita..and cause issues down the road..ill just leave the recordings as is. |
| [23:01:03] | keith4: | oh, i know what i wanted to ask. my backend seems to segfault pretty reliably while: recording, commflagging, and watching the same file, simultaneously. wasn't ever really a problem, until the woman wanted to watch the MLB world series and save them, too... |
| [23:01:40] | keith4: | so i taught her to uncheck auto commflag while scheduling via mythweb, and then forgot to look into the problem |
| [23:01:52] | S2: | how is the theme contest going? are there already some cool submissions? |
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| [23:01:58] | wagnerrp: | none |
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| [23:02:15] | wagnerrp: | at least none posted to the mailing list |
| [23:02:37] | wagnerrp: | expect a proper theme takes a couple months for someone who knows what theyre doing |
| [23:02:37] | S2: | that's a pity |
| [23:02:58] | wagnerrp: | dont expect finished stuff to pop up a couple weeks after the start |
| [23:02:59] | S2: | i noticed that on the contest page it's not specified how to submit new themes |
| [23:03:16] | devinheitmueller: | I can't say I'm surprised. Lots of people complain about what's there, but very few are willing/capable of coming up with something better. |
| [23:03:25] | S2: | sure, the logical thing to do would be to submit it to the ml, but anyway... |
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| [23:04:11] | wagnerrp: | either mailing list or trac would probably be acceptable for submission |
| [23:06:10] | S2: | is justin still making themes? |
| [23:06:27] | wagnerrp: | doesnt matter |
| [23:06:46] | wagnerrp: | justin is a dev, justin has commit access.... justin is disqualified from the competition |
| [23:06:58] | S2: | oh, ok. |
| [23:06:59] | hednod: | anyone gotten mythtv to work over pulseaudio, and still be able to do AC3/DTS pass through? |
| [23:07:01] | ivor: | and he's grumpy |
| [23:07:18] | S2: | ivor: lol :) true :) |
| [23:07:43] | S2: | hednod: not me, but what would be the advantage of doing that? |
| [23:08:35] | wagnerrp: | there is no real advantage to use pulseaudio with mythtv |
| [23:09:06] | wagnerrp: | as there is no use for any of its sound server capabilities in nearly all usage scenarios |
| [23:09:54] | wagnerrp: | youre not going to be (shouldnt be) cycling between multiple outputs with mythtv |
| [23:10:24] | iamlindoro: | S2: to the mailing list is fine, by putting it up for download and announcing it is fine, but you're right, we need to clarify that |
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| [23:10:30] | hednod: | S2: pause my video and play music until i want to resume it |
| [23:14:24] | wagnerrp: | hednod: ALSA can already handle multiple audio sources just fine on proper hardware |
| [23:14:52] | hednod: | wagnerrp: would also be nice to be able to stream audio from my laptop to my media box |
| [23:14:53] | wagnerrp: | hednod: youre expected to set a bookmark, exit playback, and shift over to mythmusic |
| [23:15:29] | hednod: | wagnerrp: i don't use mythplayer for much (mplayer), and mythmusic is a steaming pile of... compared to mpd ;) |
| [23:15:54] | wagnerrp: | hednod: there are plenty of existing sound servers and other methods of streaming audio, no need to yet another attempt |
| [23:16:00] | hednod: | wagnerrp: so mythtv is not capable of this? i know AC3 passthrough works just fine through pulseaudio, mplayer is doing it just fine. |
| [23:16:37] | wagnerrp: | you *can* use pulseaudio with mythtv, however myth has no ability to maintain A/V sync |
| [23:16:43] | wagnerrp: | so it goes very, very bad |
| [23:17:33] | hednod: | wagnerrp: dmix works with digital passthrough? |
| [23:18:22] | Dagmar: | doubt it |
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| [23:18:39] | gizmobay: | Anyone know anything about Firewire? |
| [23:20:11] | Dagmar: | It only seldom involves actual fire? |
| [23:20:26] | Dagmar: | I'm assuming you're asking for information that can't easily be Googled. |
| [23:20:35] | gizmobay: | Yes |
| [23:21:26] | gizmobay: | My STB has a 6P connector and my computer has a 4P connector |
| [23:21:41] | gizmobay: | can I use a 6P/4P cable? |
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| [23:21:58] | CShadowRun: | My DVB-S PCI Card doesn't show up in lspci, what's up with that? |
| [23:22:14] | Dagmar: | CShadowRun: It's probably broken or not installed all the way |
| [23:22:24] | CShadowRun: | that might explain why it isn't working |
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| [23:23:18] | Dagmar: | gizmobay: Assuming you didn't buy it from www.loltronics.com or something, probably so |
| [23:23:44] | CShadowRun: | Dagmar, http://pastebin.com/m1173df41 it shows up in dmesg, but i can't see it anywhere in lspci |
| [23:23:52] | Dagmar: | CShadowRun: One of the things you can pretty much count on with a PCI device is that it WILL show up on the bus as "something" or it's dead. |
| [23:23:53] | CShadowRun: | i'm using mythbuntu 9.10, any suggestions? |
| [23:24:12] | CShadowRun: | but it shows in dmesg, why would it show on dmesg and not in lspci? |
| [23:24:13] | gizmobay: | okay, thanks |
| [23:24:15] | CShadowRun: | it's a brand new card :o |
| [23:24:30] | Dagmar: | *glare* |
| [23:24:42] | Dagmar: | Update your pci.ids file or learn to look more closely |
| [23:24:47] | Dagmar: | It's showing up as an ethernet adapter. |
| [23:25:02] | Dagmar: | [ 9.006644] input: DVB on-card IR receiver as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:09.0/input/input7 |
| [23:25:06] | CShadowRun: | haha...why is it showing up as an ethernet adapter |
| [23:25:15] | Dagmar: | 00:09.0 Ethernet controller: Device 195d:1105 (rev 10) |
| [23:25:23] | CShadowRun: | that's weird o.O |
| [23:25:36] | Dagmar: | Because you don't know enough to update your pci.ids file, probably |
| [23:26:02] | Dagmar: | Something with the bare id numbers showing should have really drawn your attention, man |
| [23:26:15] | CShadowRun: | true, i should have noticed that |
| [23:26:53] | ernstp: | anyone could bother to take a look at why my EIT scanning is broken? http://paste.ubuntu.com/320396/ |
| [23:27:03] | ernstp: | watching tv works fine |
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| [23:27:18] | ernstp: | and it looks like it's starting to scan |
| [23:27:21] | Dagmar: | CShadowRun: Looks like it's not in the list yet tho from what I can tell of http://pciids.sourceforge.net/v2.2/pci.ids |
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| [23:29:51] | Dagmar: | As to the loltronics comment I made earlier, there was a parts site a few years ago that sold "esoteric" adapters |
| [23:30:00] | gizmobay: | For firewire, the wiki says libraw1394 1.3.0 is broken. I have 1.3.0.4 installed on mythbuntu. Is this broken as well? |
| [23:30:19] | Dagmar: | Like RJ45 to RJ11, RG6 to 110VAC, RG6 to RJ45, and 110VAC to RJ45. |
| [23:30:55] | Dagmar: | ...and yes, I do mean "mains power to ethernet" |
| [23:30:56] | SeveredCross: | WTF? |
| [23:30:59] | SeveredCross: | Actually. |
| [23:31:01] | SeveredCross: | no, that's sensible. |
| [23:31:04] | SeveredCross: | POE. |
| [23:31:23] | Dagmar: | Good way to eliminate nasty network-enabled viruses |
| [23:31:30] | Dagmar: | *BZZT* no more switch |
| [23:31:38] | SeveredCross: | High-end routers have an ethernet port that actually isn't used for transmission--you wire mains power into it, and the router transforms it into 40V DC for power-over-ethernet. |
| [23:31:42] | Dagmar: | ...and no, they were not sensible devices. |
| [23:31:43] | SeveredCross: | Our IP phones here are powered that way. |
| [23:31:59] | Dagmar: | Each one was pretty much guaranteed to destroy something |
| [23:32:09] | Dagmar: | POE is absolutely not 110VAC |
| [23:32:09] | CShadowRun: | Dagmar, if it's not even in pci.ids, is it likely to be an unsupported card? |
| [23:32:13] | CShadowRun: | (Hense why i can't get it to do very much) |
| [23:32:14] | SeveredCross: | No, it's 40V DC. |
| [23:32:17] | Dagmar: | CShadowRun: There's the rub. |
| [23:32:25] | CShadowRun: | ? |
| [23:32:28] | SeveredCross: | But you need to get the electricity from somewhere, and 110VAC is as good a place as any. |
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| [23:32:37] | Dagmar: | If it's not in there, then it's a near certainty no kernel module driver is going to claim it through udev |
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| [23:33:02] | SeveredCross: | Ah, it appears to be 44VDC. |
| [23:33:05] | CShadowRun: | oh well |
| [23:33:09] | CShadowRun: | time to buy a different card then |
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| [23:39:02] | linxeh: | or 220VAC |
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| [23:40:42] | iamlindoro: | http://www.fecitfacta.com/twitter.png |
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| [23:45:13] | brad2: | iamlindoro: neat |
| [23:45:25] | iamlindoro: | brad2, not bad for ~30 minutes work |
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| [23:46:49] | brad2: | yeah |
| [23:47:00] | brad2: | everytime i see your theme screenshots, it makes me think i want to go trunk again |
| [23:47:05] | brad2: | darn you |
| [23:47:23] | iamlindoro: | heh, well nothing I'm goofing with today that you couldn't do in .22 |
| [23:47:44] | brad2: | i might have to try it, looks so good |
| [23:48:00] | iamlindoro: | Nah, it's all just work on my system, nothing from trunk |
| [23:49:54] | brad2: | cool |
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| [23:55:58] | ernstp: | does this look like EIT scanning is working? http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/1674182 |
| [23:57:13] | S2: | ernstp, to me it does. it's doing someting at least. |
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| [23:59:01] | ernstp: | S2, but nothing shows up... |
| [23:59:40] | S2: | ernstp, how many channels do you have? |
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