| Saturday, November 14th, 2009, 06:16 UTC | ||
| [06:16:06] | trumee: | anybody using opensuse here? |
| [06:16:06] | mchou: | I dont recall whether it was BB or Wally |
| [06:16:06] | defaultro: | we are all lined-up |
| [06:16:06] | defaultro: | i remember lining up at 4am |
| [06:16:06] | J-e-f-f-A: | mchou: My son just got a job at BB, and is scheduled to work from 3am to 3pm on BF... |
| [06:16:06] | trumee: | the packages on packman dont seem to have mythvideo |
| [06:16:06] | mchou: | J-e-f-f-A: hah, you get to get all the deals then :) |
| [06:16:06] | J-e-f-f-A: | mchou: it was wally-world |
| [06:16:06] | defaultro: | so maybe, in NY, they'll do it better |
| [06:16:06] | J-e-f-f-A: | mchou: hehe... "Hey Joe, hide one of these for me..." ;-) |
| [06:16:06] | iamlindoro: | I heard mythvideo is all messed up this release anyway-- heard they accidentally deleted the video manager |
| [06:16:06] | ** J-e-f-f-A laughs! ** | |
| [06:16:06] | mchou: | I never got the point of BF anyways |
| [06:16:06] | iamlindoro: | and for some reason random wallpapers keep popping up |
| [06:16:06] | trumee: | guess, need to build it from svn then. |
| [06:16:06] | mchou: | I dont give a damn if you offer an iphone at 99 cents |
| [06:16:06] | mchou: | I aint freezing my ass oth in the cold |
| [06:16:06] | defaultro: | hahaha |
| [06:16:06] | defaultro: | it was freezing cold last year |
| [06:16:06] | defaultro: | it was snowing too |
| [06:16:06] | mchou: | my point exactly |
| [06:16:06] | defaultro: | it's really good deal though |
| [06:16:06] | mchou: | nah |
| [06:16:06] | defaultro: | but the wait time is ridiculuos |
| [06:16:06] | mchou: | I wait after new years |
| [06:16:06] | benkevan: | I thought we were going to have that same stampede at the Call of Duty MW2 Midnight release |
| [06:16:06] | defaultro: | that I am not aware |
| [06:16:06] | J-e-f-f-A: | mchou: I never 'camped out' for BF, but have shown up at 9 or 10am... and usually got the item I was after. |
| [06:16:06] | benkevan: | It got a little scary for a minute |
| [06:16:06] | mchou: | that's the best time to shop |
| [06:16:06] | defaultro: | at local stores? |
| [06:16:06] | mchou: | yup |
| [06:16:06] | benkevan: | mchou: BF is the best time to shop.. depending on what you want.. TV's best during Super Bowl |
| [06:16:06] | mchou: | BF is the worst time to shop |
| [06:16:06] | mchou: | bunch of crazed maniacs |
| [06:16:06] | mchou: | herd fucking mentality |
| [06:16:06] | mchou: | you get all the "open box" goodies after new years |
| [06:16:06] | defaultro: | :) |
| [06:16:06] | mchou: | plus no line at checkout |
| [06:16:06] | defaultro: | i'll have to check it next time |
| [06:16:06] | defaultro: | BF is also good |
| [06:16:06] | defaultro: | few people only |
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| [06:16:06] | defaultro: | wow, for the tv, I should have waited for the super bowl. I bought a plasma about a month ago |
| [06:16:06] | mchou: | seriously, there's nothing that even sounds remotely interesting this BF |
| [06:16:06] | J-e-f-f-A: | mchou: Last year I picked up a nice Gamin GPS for $100 less than regular price... ;-) |
| [06:16:06] | mchou: | J-e-f-f-A: yeah, I get a garmin now at costco for $130 :) |
| [06:16:06] | defaultro: | 3 yrs ago, I got 250mb hdd for $29 |
| [06:16:06] | dustybin: | a few of my channels have only small bits of channel info from EIT, most of it says NO DATA |
| [06:16:06] | mchou: | yeah, that sounds like a good deal |
| [06:16:06] | defaultro: | i was lucky that folks didn't pay attention to much to HDDs |
| [06:16:06] | defaultro: | I saw them grabbing dvd players |
| [06:16:06] | J-e-f-f-A: | mchou: Ah, didn't realize the BB BF ads were posted yet... hehehe |
| [06:16:06] | defaultro: | oh, I like shopping at Target even if there are no holidays/events |
| [06:16:06] | ** mchou recalls the good old days when you made your purchase on Thursday before BF ** | |
| [06:16:06] | defaultro: | I love their 75% :) |
| [06:16:06] | J-e-f-f-A: | mchou: You can do that online now. ;-) |
| [06:16:06] | mchou: | then return & rebuy on BF :) |
| [06:16:06] | defaultro: | hahaha |
| [06:16:06] | defaultro: | my friend does it too |
| [06:16:06] | mchou: | that's called "reservation" |
| [06:16:06] | dustybin: | if you use EIT, am i right in thinking that one doesnt ever need to run mythfilldatabase |
| [06:16:06] | dustybin: | if you use a grabber, then one should execute mythfilldatabase |
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| [06:16:42] | pak0: | i`m back :) |
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| [06:16:42] | defaultro: | dustybin, just like our tv, it can display some information about the channel we are watching |
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| [06:16:42] | justinh: | dustybin: no xmltv, no need to run mythfilldatabase |
| [06:16:42] | justinh: | jees don't you know this stuff by now? lol |
| [06:16:42] | J-e-f-f-A: | hehe... 600Hz HTDV? /me thinks that's a typo... |
| [06:16:42] | dustybin: | mythtv is a big old girl |
| [06:16:42] | mchou: | yeah, apparaently mythtv rapes some guys over too |
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| [06:16:48] | justinh: | no dustybin. it's a bitch & it owns you |
| [06:16:48] | dustybin: | ive been using mythtv for about 2.5 + years and i still havent mastered it :D |
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| [06:16:48] | dustybin: | right, EIT will only kick in if the backend is idle after a certain amount of time |
| [06:16:48] | dustybin: | so if im watching live TV, EIT will not fill in channel info |
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| [06:16:49] | knightrage: | soooooo i can't scan any channels for my v4l pinnacle pctv hd 800i [cx8800] card because the button "scan for channels" is greyed out... any idea why? ive got the capture card listed as 'analog v4l capture card', created a video source named 'src' that uses no listings grabber and is us-cable channel freq, and ive mapped the television input connection to the 'src' video source |
| [06:16:49] | mchou: | knightrage: you doing ntsc, cable, or OTA? |
| [06:16:49] | mchou: | knightrage: ^^^??? |
| [06:16:49] | knightrage: | cable |
| [06:16:49] | knightrage: | us-cable |
| [06:16:49] | mchou: | knightrage: who is your cable provider? |
| [06:16:49] | AndrewNC_: | if one makes changes to a lircrc file, is it necessary to restart mythtv AND lircd, or just mythfrontend? |
| [06:16:49] | knightrage: | mchou: comcast standard cable in charlottesville, va |
| [06:16:49] | mchou: | knightrage: you should go qam |
| [06:16:49] | mchou: | knightrage: not need to use analog capture on that card |
| [06:16:49] | mchou: | knightrage: analog capture on that card is frame grabber (no HW encoder) |
| [06:16:49] | mchou: | knightrage: google scte65scan and you should be pretty much set |
| [06:16:49] | mchou: | and you get to watch the locals in Hi Def |
| [06:16:49] | mchou: | assuming you have a beefy enough front end to decode |
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| [06:16:58] | pak0: | is recommended for best performance, separate timeshift, recording and system on each disk? |
| [06:16:58] | pak0: | i have 3 disk on my pc, and think this can help alot really? |
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| [06:16:59] | sphery: | pak0: you should definitely not record onto any file system with your MySQL data or root file system. IMHO, using separate disks for recordings is much better than using RAID or any other multi-disk solution (like LVM concatenation). Ideally you'd have a disk for the root and MySQL data that's separate from all recording disks. If you have all large disks, at least use partitions to separate root/MySQL from recordings. |
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| [06:17:11] | pak0: | thank you very much sphery |
| [06:17:11] | pak0: | time to sleep |
| [06:17:11] | pak0: | see you all good night soldiers |
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| [06:17:18] | Guest55322: | Hi all, recently upgraded to 0.22 and now my OSD menus are not working while watching live tv? any ideas? |
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| [06:17:18] | Koprolalie: | Hi people, have a quick question: |
| [06:17:18] | Koprolalie: | Kann you have a dedicated master backend server with no TV/Video card, but a frontend/slave backend with a video interface that records to the master backend? |
| [06:17:18] | Koprolalie: | Because my master backend would be a server with several SCSI drives (dedicated for storage+encoding+comm detection) that's in the basement, wouldn't want that in my livingroom (15k drives aren't that silent). |
| [06:17:18] | Koprolalie: | Would have a barebones system as frontend/slave backend in my livingroom for playback and my video card would be in there as well (have satellite). |
| [06:17:18] | Koprolalie: | lol *Can |
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| [06:17:21] | desp75: | Hi all! |
| [06:17:21] | desp75: | Is it possible to run 0.21 frontend with 0.22 server backend? |
| [06:17:21] | iamlindoro: | no |
| [06:17:21] | desp75: | ah.. To bad... is there a 0.22 frontend for OSX? |
| [06:17:21] | iamlindoro: | if you compile one or find that someone has compiled them for you, sure |
| [06:17:21] | desp75: | ok... Thanks... Compiling my first on the server right now... |
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| [06:17:23] | desp75: | Another question, when i transcode my recordings they saves as .nuv, what is that and why not mpeg? |
| [06:17:23] | iamlindoro: | legacy choice-- when myth was first written it was the container format that worked best... nobody has done much work in the intervening years on the lossy compression code to enable new container formats, and none of the devs really use the transcoder all that much |
| [06:17:23] | desp75: | ok... well i stopped using it to... |
| [06:17:23] | desp75: | Thanks for the help... cu around! |
| [06:17:23] | Koprolalie: | Anybody? The wiki doesn't have any info on this specific situation. |
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| [06:18:25] | iamlindoro: | Koprolalie, why does the one in the basement have to be a master? Just make is a slave backend, make the upstairs system the master backend, and record to a network mount |
| [06:18:25] | Koprolalie: | doesn't have to, the livingroom machine just isn't very powerful |
| [06:18:25] | iamlindoro: | or better still, if all you care about doing is running jobs on the system, make the upstairs system the only (master) backend, and run mythjobqueue on the downstairs box |
| [06:18:25] | iamlindoro: | backends don't really have to be powerful |
| [06:18:25] | Koprolalie: | I can do that? |
| [06:18:25] | iamlindoro: | and you can farm out jobs to jobqueues/slave backends |
| [06:18:25] | iamlindoro: | yes |
| [06:18:25] | Koprolalie: | oh thats very nice |
| [06:18:25] | Koprolalie: | would the mysql database have to be on the upstairs machine? |
| [06:18:25] | iamlindoro: | the database doesn't have to be on any of the myth boxes, just has to be somewhere on the network, and accessible to all backends/jobqueues |
| [06:18:25] | iamlindoro: | meaning if you really wanted, you could put the SQL server alone on a third machine |
| [06:18:25] | Koprolalie: | .. doh >.< ..it's the weekend my mind is gone.. |
| [06:18:25] | Koprolalie: | yeah just realized that ^^ |
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| [06:18:26] | Koprolalie: | so then the only thing the upstairs machine would do would be recording |
| [06:18:26] | iamlindoro: | yup |
| [06:18:26] | Koprolalie: | (to the downstairs nfs) |
| [06:18:26] | iamlindoro: | and scheduling |
| [06:18:26] | dustybin: | is there a way to change channel using telnet? |
| [06:18:26] | dustybin: | remote controls can be annoying sometimes |
| [06:18:26] | iamlindoro: | yeah, use something intuitive, like telnet |
| [06:18:26] | ** iamlindoro glares ** | |
| [06:18:26] | Koprolalie: | basement couldn't do scheduling? I use sat, so I use a IR transmitter... |
| [06:18:26] | iamlindoro: | Koprolalie, The backend doing recording does the scheduling-- I'm not speaking of you setting up schedules, I'm speaking of it parsing through the listings and deciding what to record based on the rules you have set up |
| [06:18:26] | iamlindoro: | it's a behind the scenes process |
| [06:18:26] | dustybin: | MythFrontend Network Control |
| [06:18:26] | dustybin: | :D |
| [06:18:26] | Koprolalie: | oh ok! |
| [06:18:26] | Koprolalie: | Think that settles that.. thanks iamlindoro! |
| [06:18:26] | iamlindoro: | np |
| [06:18:26] | dustybin: | key 1 :D |
| [06:18:26] | dustybin: | those telnet controls could be handy for automation |
| [06:18:26] | dustybin: | one could turn on BBC news channel when one wakes up in the morning |
| [06:18:26] | Koprolalie: | dustybin: you use lirc? |
| [06:18:26] | Koprolalie: | ie. have it set up for mythtv? |
| [06:18:26] | Josh__: | Why does a frontend running locally on the MBE run smoothly, but my remote frontends stumble all on themselves. |
| [06:18:26] | dustybin: | X10 > turn TV & Amp & Light On Telnet > Turn on BBC News Channel |
| [06:18:26] | dustybin: | Koprolalie: yes i do |
| [06:18:26] | Koprolalie: | I think you can inject a keypress into your lirc devices, so that lirc think your remote is doing something |
| [06:18:26] | dustybin: | that is called IR Blasting? |
| [06:18:26] | Koprolalie: | not really ir blaster just emulates a device |
| [06:18:26] | dustybin: | right i see what you mean now |
| [06:18:26] | Koprolalie: | what I am thinking is something like |
| [06:18:26] | Koprolalie: | 'UP' > /dev/input/eventx |
| [06:18:26] | dustybin: | passing commands into the mythfrontend network control is a better way of doing it IMO |
| [06:18:26] | Koprolalie: | well 'UP' probably has to be the code for up for your specific remote |
| [06:18:26] | dustybin: | Koprolalie: your method sounds like a fugly hack |
| [06:18:26] | Koprolalie: | is it still fugly if it works? |
| [06:18:26] | dustybin: | indeed |
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| [06:18:29] | PeaceKeeper: | Can anyone help me with mythweb. All I see is the thumbnail on the recorded details page. no option to stream |
| [06:18:29] | Guest55322: | can anyone help me figure out why my osd menus arent working? |
| [06:18:29] | PeaceKeeper: | with flowplayer that is |
| [06:18:29] | Koprolalie: | dustybin: check out the application part: http://www.lirc.org/html/technical.html |
| [06:18:29] | Koprolalie: | could probably send a packet to lircd |
| [06:18:29] | Josh__: | At this point I'm stumped. I can't tell if my problem is related to my hardware, my OS, or the mythtv package itself... |
| [06:18:29] | PeaceKeeper: | I dont know where to look for errors :( |
| [06:18:29] | Josh__: | PeaceKeeper, the streaming web app is experimental. No suggestion is made that it even works. |
| [06:18:29] | PeaceKeeper: | It did work before I reloaded OS |
| [06:18:29] | PeaceKeeper: | now it is just a thumbnail, flowplayer is not even loading and then erroring |
| [06:18:29] | Josh__: | PeaceKeeper, every time I had a problem with flowplayer it was strictly a permisisons issue. |
| [06:18:29] | Josh__: | Sigh, i'm not sure if it's directly related to my problem, but I did switch to Ubuntu Server on my MBE. |
| [06:18:29] | Josh__: | Mabye I should try another distro. |
| [06:18:29] | PeaceKeeper: | OK |
| [06:18:29] | sphery: | in "[mythtv-users] Slashdot Review of Internet TV Announcements – Any MythTV Integration?" – "A flurry of announcements from YouTube, Boxee, Dell and Clicker on Thursday brought good news for anyone considering canceling their cable service in favor of internet TV. First, YouTube announced that within the next few days it will start offering full 1080P HD streams; better than your cable company can offer." |
| [06:18:29] | PeaceKeeper: | I am lookging :D |
| [06:18:29] | sphery: | wow... 1080p garbage on youtube |
| [06:18:29] | sphery: | be still my beating heart |
| [06:18:29] | sphery: | now I can cancel my cable subscription and instead watch some skate boarder fall down in 1080p |
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| [06:18:39] | PeaceKeeper: | COuld this bbe it? avahi_entry_group_add_service_strlst("mythbackend") failed: Invalid host name |
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| [06:18:45] | Josh__: | sphery, I'm so disgusted right now, with myth in general. Nothing but problems since I replaced the drives and switched to ubuntu-server |
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| [06:18:45] | wagnerrp: | what problems in particular? |
| [06:18:45] | Josh__: | What would you guys suggest for a MBE distro? preferably, it needs to be able to run and be maintained headless, with some sort of package/dependancy manager, using binary packages... |
| [06:18:45] | Koprolalie: | debian? |
| [06:18:45] | wagnerrp: | if you want binary packages, basically anything but gentoo |
| [06:18:45] | Koprolalie: | thats what I use, but from source |
| [06:18:45] | Koprolalie: | I thought you could emerge mythtv in gentoo |
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| [06:18:45] | wagnerrp: | Koprolalie: binary packages was a requirement |
| [06:18:45] | wagnerrp: | technically, you can build binary packages for gentoo and install them on a separate system |
| [06:18:45] | wagnerrp: | but i dont think that falls within the 'spirit' of the request |
| [06:18:45] | Koprolalie: | oops sorry ^^ but debian offers mythtv through the debian-multimedia repository |
| [06:18:45] | Josh__: | wagnerrp, ugh. I can't pinpoint exactly when it happened (sometime around the Ubuntu 9.10 upgrade, though my old MBE ran gentoo.) Afterwards, every time I tried to watch LiveTV (was how I was testing), it takes 30 seconds frmo the time I hit "LiveTV" to the time I get any video at all. After I got video, it was full of artifacts with lots of errors in the logs. It even did that on my PVR cards... |
| [06:18:45] | Josh__: | wagnerrp, It would only play the stream for about 15 seconds before dropping back to mainmenu, "buffering failed too many times" |
| [06:18:45] | PeaceKeeper: | Ok I give up :( I dont know why I get the thumbnail and not flowplayer |
| [06:18:45] | Koprolalie: | *gentoo's portage has mythtv up to 0.23 alpah |
| [06:18:45] | wagnerrp: | PeaceKeeper: check your perl modules, you may be missing a dependency |
| [06:18:45] | Josh__: | That's what I *was* running as a MBE, and it did a fine job. I just hated having to wait for 3–4 hours every time a package dep needed to be upgraded. |
| [06:18:45] | PeaceKeeper: | humm |
| [06:18:45] | wagnerrp: | for instance, mythweb runs just fine without any perl database modules, but they are needed for the flash streaming |
| [06:18:45] | PeaceKeeper: | Where can I find a list of the deps? |
| [06:18:45] | PeaceKeeper: | wiki? |
| [06:18:45] | wagnerrp: | your error logs |
| [06:18:45] | PeaceKeeper: | i see nothing in error logs :( |
| [06:18:45] | wagnerrp: | see if apache is complaining about something |
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| [06:18:47] | PeaceKeeper: | avahi_entry_group_add_service_strlst("localhost") failed: Invalid host name |
| [06:18:47] | PeaceKeeper: | is all |
| [06:18:47] | PeaceKeeper: | and I am tryign to run that down now |
| [06:18:47] | PeaceKeeper: | Seem it might be a SELinux issue. But if I disable SELinux I still get error |
| [06:18:47] | wagnerrp: | it shouldnt be, youre not doing anything that would use special permissions |
| [06:18:47] | wagnerrp: | just running ffmpeg on a file, and piping it straight through apache |
| [06:18:47] | PeaceKeeper: | I am not sure what that error is or even if it is related |
| [06:18:47] | PeaceKeeper: | wagnerrp: ? |
| [06:18:47] | PeaceKeeper: | wagnerrp: I was not aware you could do that |
| [06:18:47] | wagnerrp: | flash streaming, thats how it works |
| [06:18:47] | wagnerrp: | you have ffmpeg output to stdout, which apache is dumping straight onto the socket |
| [06:18:47] | PeaceKeeper: | can you give me a sample syntax? |
| [06:18:47] | PeaceKeeper: | It is really odd. I dont even see flowplayer and then get and error |
| [06:18:47] | PeaceKeeper: | I just see a thumb where flowplayer used to be (on last install) |
| [06:18:47] | wagnerrp: | http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/trunk/myth . . . tream_flv.pl |
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| [06:18:57] | wagnerrp: | starting at line 65 |
| [06:18:57] | PeaceKeeper: | looking :D |
| [06:18:57] | PeaceKeeper: | you referring to: /dev/stdout 2>/dev/null ? |
| [06:18:57] | Josh__: | PeaceKeeper, what's the difference between the 5 torrent files available when you choose to download the debian install disc? |
| [06:18:57] | wagnerrp: | PeaceKeeper: the first part is where the video is output to |
| [06:18:57] | wagnerrp: | the second part tells it to null any errors |
| [06:18:57] | PeaceKeeper: | humm, I use fedora (was CentOS till this install). But I am guessing DVD and CD(1–4(?)) images. Maybe 32bit and 64bit |
| [06:18:57] | PeaceKeeper: | ok |
| [06:18:57] | PeaceKeeper: | so sent stdout |
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| [06:19:00] | wagnerrp: | the lines 88 and 89 read the output from ffmpeg, and dump it back out for apache to send |
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| [06:19:00] | PeaceKeeper: | bah I have not idea what I am doing. I am so over my head |
| [06:19:00] | wagnerrp: | those are the commands it runs, all it needs |
| [06:19:00] | wagnerrp: | so if its not working, either you dont have permissions |
| [06:19:00] | wagnerrp: | ffmpeg isnt compiled correctly (maybe no mp3 support) |
| [06:19:00] | wagnerrp: | or you dont have the proper perl dependencies |
| [06:19:00] | PeaceKeeper: | K I am still banging away at the syntax |
| [06:19:00] | PeaceKeeper: | I says it need an output file |
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| [06:19:04] | wagnerrp: | basically, all you need are p5_DBI, and p5_DBI_Mysql |
| [06:19:04] | Josh__: | Debian, here I come |
| [06:19:04] | PeaceKeeper: | perl-DBI ? |
| [06:19:04] | wagnerrp: | database interface |
| [06:19:04] | PeaceKeeper: | perl-Class-DBI-mysql? |
| [06:19:04] | PeaceKeeper: | opps |
| [06:19:04] | PeaceKeeper: | sorry |
| [06:19:04] | PeaceKeeper: | perl-Class-DBI-mysql is not installed |
| [06:19:04] | PeaceKeeper: | I just wish i could find an error somewhere |
| [06:19:04] | PeaceKeeper: | A log somewhere that had and error |
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| [06:19:06] | mangus580: | any of you guys use a homebrew IR reciever? |
| [06:19:06] | PeaceKeeper: | I used to but not anymore |
| [06:19:06] | mangus580: | lirc is kicking my ass getting it to work :-( |
| [06:19:06] | PeaceKeeper: | migth be able to help, if it is simple hehe |
| [06:19:06] | PeaceKeeper: | humm |
| [06:19:06] | PeaceKeeper: | you use irw? |
| [06:19:06] | mangus580: | umm dunno |
| [06:19:06] | mangus580: | I tried irw... and got nothing |
| [06:19:06] | PeaceKeeper: | (I think that was the command) to see if you are getting signal from remote |
| [06:19:06] | mangus580: | if I try to run mode2 or irrecord, I get a message saying "could not get file information for /dev/lirc" |
| [06:19:06] | PeaceKeeper: | irw ... then press keys on remote |
| [06:19:06] | mangus580: | that netted me nothing |
| [06:19:06] | PeaceKeeper: | ahhh |
| [06:19:06] | mangus580: | me thinks my issue is deeper than that :-) |
| [06:19:06] | PeaceKeeper: | you have the lirc kernel modules? |
| [06:19:06] | mangus580: | I believe so, checking |
| [06:19:06] | PeaceKeeper: | what OS you running? |
| [06:19:06] | PeaceKeeper: | or distro |
| [06:19:06] | PeaceKeeper: | ROFL |
| [06:19:06] | mangus580: | also when I run dmesg I see the serial module loded |
| [06:19:06] | mangus580: | mythbuntu |
| [06:19:06] | mangus580: | latest rev |
| [06:19:06] | PeaceKeeper: | humm I am on fedora |
| [06:19:06] | PeaceKeeper: | I have to have lirc-libs lirc lirc-remotes and lirc-devel |
| [06:19:06] | mangus580: | k |
| [06:19:06] | PeaceKeeper: | wagnerrp: i gave up. thx for the help. I will work on it some other time. Not seeing any errors is just frustrating me :) |
| [06:19:06] | wagnerrp: | you get those packages installed? |
| [06:19:06] | PeaceKeeper: | I think |
| [06:19:06] | PeaceKeeper: | yes |
| [06:19:06] | PeaceKeeper: | perl-Class-DBI and perl-Class-DBI-mysql |
| [06:19:06] | PeaceKeeper: | those are installed |
| [06:19:06] | PeaceKeeper: | I think those are the two you said |
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| [06:19:11] | Josh__: | okeydokey, debian is installed. |
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| [06:19:12] | Josh__: | Now to see if we can get source compiled... |
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| [06:19:13] | PeaceKeeper: | ll |
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| [06:19:13] | PeaceKeeper: | doh |
| [06:19:13] | mangus580: | well.... thinking I might have borked my LIRC install |
| [06:19:13] | mangus580: | so I am going to attempt the live cd and see if it works there |
| [06:19:13] | Koprolalie: | Josh_: you don't have to compile from source, you can pull mythtv with apt |
| [06:19:13] | Josh__: | Koprolalie, From what I'm reading, it's only available on the unstable dist |
| [06:19:13] | Josh__: | I installed stable... |
| [06:19:13] | Koprolalie: | Lenny 5.0? |
| [06:19:13] | Josh__: | Correct. |
| [06:19:13] | Koprolalie: | its available |
| [06:19:13] | Josh__: | 0.22-fixes ? |
| [06:19:13] | Koprolalie: | not sure you need to check |
| [06:19:13] | Koprolalie: | debian-multimedia |
| [06:19:13] | Josh__: | I'm on the website now... |
| [06:19:13] | Josh__: | 11/11/2009 : |
| [06:19:13] | Josh__: | Mythtv 0.22 is now in experimenatl(i386 and amd64 arches). |
| [06:19:13] | Josh__: | Only my experimental repository is needed and you must have unstable installed, these packages are not installable with testing or stable. |
| [06:19:13] | Koprolalie: | you need to last time I used 0.21 |
| [06:19:13] | Koprolalie: | hm |
| [06:19:13] | Koprolalie: | oh well my bad then ^^ |
| [06:19:13] | Koprolalie: | I have lenny |
| [06:19:13] | Koprolalie: | but I compiled 0.23 alpha from source |
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| [06:19:14] | Josh__: | It's okay, we all learn... |
| [06:19:14] | Josh__: | I just dont know what build deps I need. |
| [06:19:14] | Josh__: | I know Xorg, I know QT4 |
| [06:19:14] | Josh__: | possibly alsa-dev |
| [06:19:14] | Josh__: | I'm just gonna run ./configure and install stuff till it stops bitching. |
| [06:19:14] | Koprolalie: | :D |
| [06:19:14] | Koprolalie: | deps should be in readme |
| [06:19:14] | iamlindoro: | or... you know... just run "apt-get build-dep mythtv" |
| [06:19:14] | iamlindoro: | (after having added whatever repository has mythtv) |
| [06:19:14] | PeaceKeeper: | should flvplayer.swf be installed for mythweb to tream? |
| [06:19:14] | Josh__: | iamlindoro, will that work if mythtv is not installable on debian stable? |
| [06:19:14] | Koprolalie: | but he's building from source.. but I guess the deps haven't changed that much between .21 and 22 |
| [06:19:14] | Josh__: | PeaceKeeper, flvplayer is the backup player. |
| [06:19:14] | iamlindoro: | The only dep since .21 is all of Qt4 |
| [06:19:14] | PeaceKeeper: | I dont have that |
| [06:19:14] | Koprolalie: | yeah it will you'll just have to add the rep |
| [06:19:14] | Josh__: | PeaceKeeper, you shouldnt need it if you have flowplayer |
| [06:19:14] | Josh__: | hrm. |
| [06:19:14] | PeaceKeeper: | Josh__: ok |
| [06:19:14] | Josh__: | let me try that |
| [06:19:14] | Koprolalie: | I think it's |
| [06:19:14] | Koprolalie: | deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch main deb-src http://www.debian-multimedia.org unstable main |
| [06:19:14] | Koprolalie: | or so |
| [06:19:14] | Koprolalie: | ah I mean deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch main deb-src http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch main |
| [06:19:14] | PeaceKeeper: | Yea, well flowplayer hates me :) |
| [06:19:14] | Koprolalie: | deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org unstable main |
| [06:19:14] | Koprolalie: | deb-src http://www.debian-multimedia.org unstable main |
| [06:19:14] | Koprolalie: | there we go |
| [06:19:14] | Koprolalie: | you might have to get the keyring |
| [06:19:14] | Koprolalie: | just checked you could look in stable, but you would only get 21 |
| [06:19:14] | Josh__: | Got the keyring, added the repos, let's try it out. |
| [06:19:14] | Koprolalie: | may the unix gods be with you |
| [06:19:14] | Josh__: | Koprolalie, no bueno |
| [06:19:14] | Josh__: | E: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/www.debian-multimedia.org_dists_unstable_main_source_Sources& nbsp;– open (2 No such file or directory) |
| [06:19:14] | Koprolalie: | ah fucky |
| [06:19:14] | wagnerrp: | Koprolalie: watch the language |
| [06:19:14] | Josh__: | I could just create that file, but I thought that's what the keyring was for? |
| [06:19:14] | Koprolalie: | sorry |
| [06:19:14] | Koprolalie: | ther might not be a unstable directory in the rep |
| [06:19:14] | Koprolalie: | try another one like: |
| [06:19:14] | Koprolalie: | deb http://debian.dc-uoit.net/debian-multimedia/ stable main |
| [06:19:14] | Josh__: | would it be wise to just create the directory? |
| [06:19:14] | Koprolalie: | I mean on debian-multimedia |
| [06:19:14] | Koprolalie: | My dns can't resolve the site |
| [06:19:14] | Koprolalie: | so I can't see |
| [06:19:14] | Koprolalie: | but with stable you would only get 0.21, but the depends shouldn't have changed inbetween the 21 and 22 versions |
| [06:19:14] | PeaceKeeper: | wagnerrp: I get not errors with "ffmpeg -y -i 2052_20091112200000.mpg -g 30 -r 24 -f flv -ac 2 -ar 11025 /dev/stdout" just a bunch of stuff out to screen |
| [06:19:14] | PeaceKeeper: | not = no** |
| [06:19:14] | Josh__: | How about source? |
| [06:19:14] | Josh__: | deb-src http://www.debian-multimedia.org sid main or |
| [06:19:14] | Josh__: | deb-src ftp://ftp.debian-multimedia.org sid main |
| [06:19:14] | Koprolalie: | wouldn't know, I can't access those sites |
| [06:19:14] | Koprolalie: | but what are you trying now? |
| [06:19:14] | Koprolalie: | get the deps or the packages |
| [06:19:14] | Josh__: | there are a few suggestions on debian-multimedia.org, I just want the deps |
| [06:19:14] | iamlindoro: | just install the normal repos and run apt-get build-dep mythtv |
| [06:19:14] | Koprolalie: | I'd just add |
| [06:19:14] | Koprolalie: | deb http://debian.dc-uoit.net/debian-multimedia/ stable main |
| [06:19:14] | Koprolalie: | and run |
| [06:19:14] | Josh__: | kk |
| [06:19:14] | Koprolalie: | apt-get build-dep mythtv |
| [06:19:14] | mangus580: | @#$%$#@% I should have just ordered and IR receiver LOL |
| [06:19:14] | PeaceKeeper: | OH MY!! I am a moron! |
| [06:19:14] | PeaceKeeper: | I figured it out |
| [06:19:14] | Josh__: | Koprolalie, E: Unable to find a source package for mythtv |
| [06:19:14] | PeaceKeeper: | Enable Video Playback was not checked! |
| [06:19:14] | Koprolalie: | iamlindoro: did any depends change between 21 and 22? |
| [06:19:14] | PeaceKeeper: | in mythweb setup |
| [06:19:14] | Koprolalie: | Josh__: you get the keyring? |
| [06:19:14] | iamlindoro: | qt4 |
| [06:19:14] | PeaceKeeper: | wagnerrp: Thank you for your help!!! |
| [06:19:14] | wagnerrp: | ... |
| [06:19:14] | Josh__: | Koprolalie, already have the keyring for debian-multimedia |
| [06:19:14] | Koprolalie: | apt-get update |
| [06:19:14] | Koprolalie: | apt-get install debian-multimedia-keyring |
| [06:19:14] | Koprolalie: | apt-get update |
| [06:19:14] | Koprolalie: | and run update? |
| [06:19:14] | Koprolalie: | thats the most important ^^ |
| [06:19:14] | wagnerrp: | !trout wagnerrp always ask the obvious |
| [06:19:14] | ** MythLogBot slaps wagnerrp with a always ask the obvious trout on behalf of wagnerrp... ** | |
| [06:19:14] | wagnerrp: | no MythLogBot? |
| [06:19:14] | Koprolalie: | iamlindoro: so 21 uses an older qt? |
| [06:19:14] | Josh__: | Koprolalie, still no bueno. |
| [06:19:14] | Josh__: | Koprolalie, correct. |
| [06:19:14] | iamlindoro: | correct, qt3 |
| [06:19:14] | Koprolalie: | what are you getting? |
| [06:19:14] | Koprolalie: | do you get anything running |
| [06:19:14] | Koprolalie: | apt-cache search myth |
| [06:19:14] | Josh__: | Koprolalie, lots of myth stuff |
| [06:19:14] | Koprolalie: | well then he should be able to pull the mythtv deps |
| [06:19:14] | PeaceKeeper: | wagnerrp: I just started clicking to see what I could find, and I had a V8 moment |
| [06:19:14] | Koprolalie: | what does |
| [06:19:14] | Koprolalie: | apt-get build-dep mythtv |
| [06:19:14] | Koprolalie: | give you? |
| [06:19:14] | Koprolalie: | I'm sorry I just noticed I'm a moron |
| [06:19:14] | Josh__: | Koprolalie, E: Unable to find a source package for mythtv |
| [06:19:14] | Koprolalie: | apt-get build-dep mythtv |
| [06:19:14] | Koprolalie: | will get the packages from deb-src |
| [06:19:14] | Josh__: | ahh |
| [06:19:14] | Koprolalie: | but the rep I gave you is only deb |
| [06:19:14] | Josh__: | gotcha |
| [06:19:14] | Josh__: | Koprolalie, works now :) |
| [06:19:14] | Koprolalie: | You could try replacing the rep with: |
| [06:19:14] | Koprolalie: | deb ftp://gulus.usherbrooke.ca/debian-multimedia/ stable main |
| [06:19:14] | Koprolalie: | deb-src ftp://gulus.usherbrooke.ca/debian-multimedia/ stable main |
| [06:19:14] | Koprolalie: | oh great then ! |
| [06:19:14] | Koprolalie: | what'd you do? |
| [06:19:14] | Josh__: | just copied the existing deb ftp: blah blah with an identical deb-src line |
| [06:19:14] | Josh__: | So now I"m gonna have to remove all the QT3* stuff and replace with qt4 |
| [06:19:14] | Koprolalie: | ha, nice little trick, they are after all in the same directory *hits head on table* |
| [06:19:14] | Koprolalie: | yup |
| [06:19:14] | Koprolalie: | but you should check the readme for the exact qt4 version |
| [06:19:14] | iamlindoro: | 4.4 or greater |
| [06:19:14] | Koprolalie: | there you have it |
| [06:19:14] | Josh__: | There's not a qt4 meta package? |
| [06:19:14] | Koprolalie: | there should be |
| [06:19:14] | Koprolalie: | apt-cache search it |
| [06:19:14] | Josh__: | looking, dont see anything obvious |
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| [06:19:21] | Koprolalie: | should be qt4-x11 |
| [06:19:21] | Josh__: | Looks like 4.4.3 is the latest qt version for lenny |
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| [06:19:21] | Josh__: | Koprolalie, doesnt exist |
| [06:19:21] | Josh__: | Looks like I might have the majority of them though. |
| [06:19:21] | Josh__: | Don't worry, I"m sure ./configure will tell me :) |
| [06:19:21] | Koprolalie: | yup 4.4.3–1 |
| [06:19:21] | Koprolalie: | testing the latest is 4.5.3–4 |
| [06:19:21] | Koprolalie: | it's a source package |
| [06:19:21] | Josh__: | Ooh, that reminds me |
| [06:19:21] | Josh__: | New flyleaf is supposed to be woot |
| [06:19:21] | Koprolalie: | flyleaf? that's alternative, right? |
| [06:19:21] | Josh__: | let's see.. |
| [06:19:21] | Josh__: | Koprolalie, Yep. wailing emo chick, is 'frontman' |
| [06:19:21] | Josh__: | Koprolalie, looks like our trick worked, I have most support except for DirectFB and VDPAU, those arent needed for a MBE, right? |
| [06:19:21] | Koprolalie: | :D I'm more of a old school thrash metal kinda guy.. but some new stuff here and there |
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| [06:19:22] | Koprolalie: | I forget |
| [06:19:22] | Koprolalie: | yeah you shouldn't need the directframebuffer |
| [06:19:22] | Josh__: | Koprolalie, I listen to anything and everything, a country song caught my attention yesterday. I had just heard the new Flyleaf CD is pure gold, beginning to end – which is rare for music today. |
| [06:19:22] | Koprolalie: | thats true |
| [06:19:22] | Koprolalie: | oh thats right your building backend only, right? |
| [06:19:22] | Josh__: | Koprolalie, on this box, yes. |
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| [06:19:23] | Koprolalie: | VDPAU is for decoding and playback |
| [06:19:23] | Koprolalie: | I wonder if you even need qt then |
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| [06:19:24] | Koprolalie: | uhh ok you do |
| [06:19:24] | Koprolalie: | not only the gui runs on qt |
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| [06:19:25] | mangus580: | woohoo!!! making progress |
| [06:19:25] | mangus580: | irw is now reporting key presses |
| [06:19:25] | mangus580: | but I had to use 'irw lircd' |
| [06:19:25] | mangus580: | as a command to see them |
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| [06:19:26] | ** wagnerrp thought all albums went gold ** | |
| [06:19:26] | mangus580: | wagnerrp: you actually awake? |
| [06:19:26] | wagnerrp: | its not even midnight |
| [06:19:26] | mangus580: | ;-) |
| [06:19:26] | mangus580: | you know much about LIRC? |
| [06:19:26] | wagnerrp: | used it, sure... know much about it, not really |
| [06:19:26] | wagnerrp: | ask a way, i probably wont answer |
| [06:19:26] | mangus580: | LOL |
| [06:19:26] | mangus580: | well I cant get irrecord to work |
| [06:19:26] | mangus580: | cant tell if the daemon is supposed to be stopped to make it work? |
| [06:19:26] | Shadow__X: | hey wagnerrp i am finally making the .22 leap |
| [06:19:26] | Shadow__X: | :) |
| [06:19:26] | Shadow__X: | cant wait to get to use and appreciate iamlindoro's hard work |
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| [06:19:28] | mangus580: | looks like its now a matter of making my remote work with lirc |
| [06:19:28] | Shadow__X: | wagnerrp: how do i regenerate all thumbnails again for mythweb |
| [06:19:28] | wagnerrp: | no idea |
| [06:19:28] | wagnerrp: | delete the existing ones, and let mythtv decide to regenerate? |
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| [06:19:28] | wagnerrp: | looks like my export script reverts back to a generic file when it cannot access the grabber |
| [06:19:28] | Josh__: | How can I show the _current autonegotiated_ link status of eth0? 1000Mbit, 100Mbit, 10Mbit ? |
| [06:19:28] | wagnerrp: | ethtool eth<n< |
| [06:19:28] | wagnerrp: | > |
| [06:19:28] | Josh__: | sigh. |
| [06:19:28] | Josh__: | http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/1670842 |
| [06:19:28] | Josh__: | gigibit adapter running at 10Mbit. |
| [06:19:28] | wagnerrp: | bad cable? |
| [06:19:28] | wagnerrp: | the adapter will autonegotiate down to a speed it feels stable at |
| [06:19:28] | Josh__: | Dont think so – I *THINK* the box I have permanently on that cable connects at gig. |
| [06:19:28] | Josh__: | let me check it out though. |
| [06:19:28] | oobe: | does anyone know how i enable mysql over ethernet |
| [06:19:28] | wagnerrp: | mysql does not operate over ethernet |
| [06:19:28] | Josh__: | wagnerrp, TCP, right? |
| [06:19:28] | wagnerrp: | there you go |
| [06:19:28] | pat_: | http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/how-do-i-enable . . . -server.html |
| [06:19:28] | pat_: | that was a google of "remote access mysql" |
| [06:19:28] | iamlindoro: | So, for anyone who thinks MythTV setup is way too hard, here is my little project for the day: http://www.fecitfacta.com/gbeeswishismycommand.png http://www.fecitfacta.com/simplecapture.png |
| [06:19:28] | wagnerrp: | both ttvdb and beirdo's sites are down.... |
| [06:19:28] | Shadow__X: | iamlindoro: that might be too easy |
| [06:19:28] | ** iamlindoro glares ** | |
| [06:19:28] | Shadow__X: | keep up the good work sir that would make things easier for some |
| [06:19:28] | iamlindoro: | I swear to f**king god, this is why nothing gets done around here |
| [06:19:28] | iamlindoro: | because you are all ungrateful bitches |
| [06:19:28] | iamlindoro: | "It's too hard" |
| [06:19:28] | iamlindoro: | "No, that's TOO easy" |
| [06:19:28] | iamlindoro: | "Too many settings!" |
| [06:19:28] | iamlindoro: | "No, I love that setting!" |
| [06:19:28] | iamlindoro: | dickwads |
| [06:19:28] | brad3: | some of us are appreciative, you are doing a rocking job lindoro |
| [06:19:28] | iamlindoro: | thanks brad3 |
| [06:19:28] | Shadow__X: | iamlindoro: i was just poking fun at the fact no matter how much easier you make things some people will still complain i always appreciate your hardware and can see how much dedication you have |
| [06:19:28] | Shadow__X: | and others as well since you have been accepted as a dev |
| [06:19:28] | iamlindoro: | grad you appreciate my hardware |
| [06:19:28] | iamlindoro: | s/grad/glad/ |
| [06:19:28] | brad3: | i appreciate your hardware (20tb) too |
| [06:19:28] | brad3: | so jealous |
| [06:19:28] | brad3: | ;) |
| [06:19:28] | iamlindoro: | 22 |
| [06:19:28] | brad3: | do you manage to store that all in one comp? |
| [06:19:28] | iamlindoro: | yep |
| [06:19:28] | Shadow__X: | oh come on thats drool worthy |
| [06:19:28] | brad3: | jeez that must be a beast |
| [06:19:28] | wagnerrp: | big lian-li file server |
| [06:19:28] | iamlindoro: | yep |
| [06:19:28] | brad3: | lian-li? |
| [06:19:28] | Josh__: | wagnerrp, not the cable. COuld be the switch or ethernet card though. |
| [06:19:28] | wagnerrp: | theyve got a line with 12 bays in the bottom chamber |
| [06:19:28] | brad3: | wow, they look great. never heard of that brand around where i live |
| [06:19:28] | wagnerrp: | Josh__: you can force the speed, and see if it is stable |
| [06:19:28] | wagnerrp: | brad3: theyre very nice cases, but you pay for the quality |
| [06:19:28] | Josh__: | wagnerrp, How? |
| [06:19:28] | wagnerrp: | theyre one of the more expensive brands |
| [06:19:28] | wagnerrp: | 'you get what you pay for' kind of thing |
| [06:19:28] | Josh__: | I know you shouldnt really force autonegottion |
| [06:19:28] | brad3: | sweet, i'm going to put it down on my to buy list |
| [06:19:28] | brad3: | as soon as i pay off my car, i'm going to try to build a lindoro worthy box |
| [06:19:28] | brad3: | with 8 bagillion gigabytes |
| [06:19:28] | brad3: | haha |
| [06:19:28] | Josh__: | I got my lian-li for free :) |
| [06:19:28] | Josh__: | two of them even |
| [06:19:28] | wagnerrp: | ive always wondered, how does the upside-down motherboard mounting on that case work out? |
| [06:19:28] | Dagmar: | wagnerrp: Pretty well, except for the byte-ordering issues |
| [06:19:28] | wagnerrp: | thats the one thing ive hated about my P180, the motherboard power connector is so far from the power supply |
| [06:19:28] | Dagmar: | Highest/lowest significant byte order goes right out the window |
| [06:19:28] | Dagmar: | ...but it's not like they've not been dealing with that in .au for ages anyway. |
| [06:19:28] | Koprolalie: | xD |
| [06:19:28] | Koprolalie: | ..win |
| [06:19:28] | Josh__: | wagnerrp, gotta be card. |
| [06:19:28] | Dagmar: | Frankly I can stand a little distance between the PSU and the mainboard power connector, if for no other reason than it means I don't have to velcro up the bloody ten inches of PSU cable that's left over when the connector is only four inches from the exit point of the PSU |
| [06:19:28] | Josh__: | wagnerrp, even on my 10/100 switch autoneg drops down to 10Mbps |
| [06:19:28] | wagnerrp: | brad3: anyway... if you like your fingers, a nice case like that is well worth the purchase |
| [06:19:28] | Dagmar: | Josh_Borke: Seriously? |
| [06:19:28] | Josh__: | Dagmar, A good soldering iron and some heatshrink will fix that problem |
| [06:19:28] | Dagmar: | Your 10/100 cards are auto-negotiation at 10 instead of 100? |
| [06:19:28] | sid3windr: | lol |
| [06:19:28] | sid3windr: | =) |
| [06:19:28] | sid3windr: | sounds like realtek cards :> |
| [06:19:28] | Josh__: | Dagmar, When did you join this conversation? If you had read the buffer you would know I'm talking about a gigabit. |
| [06:19:28] | Dagmar: | Ahhh |
| [06:19:28] | Dagmar: | Yes that space is still back in 1990 for reasons I can't figure out |
| [06:19:28] | sid3windr: | so, your gig cards drop down to 10Mbit on autoneg on a 10/100 switch? |
| [06:19:28] | Dagmar: | There used to be problems with 10/100 stuff (and still with some older Solaris equipment) mysteriously negotiating down to 10 instead of 100 for no good reason |
| [06:19:28] | Josh__: | sid3windr, No, my gig card in my server drops to 10mbit on any switch I attach it to. |
| [06:19:28] | Dagmar: | They should however, NOT do that. |
| [06:19:28] | Dagmar: | We've got a crapton of stuff that it works with correctly. |
| [06:19:28] | Josh__: | It's an Intel e100 driver card. |
| [06:19:28] | Josh__: | erp |
| [06:19:28] | Josh__: | e1000 |
| [06:19:28] | sid3windr: | then I think your card is broken |
| [06:19:28] | sid3windr: | because my e1000's don't do that at all :) |
| [06:19:28] | Josh__: | I think it is as well...too bad it's onboard. |
| [06:19:28] | Dagmar: | Generally when it doesn't it's a problem with the switch _configuration_ being wrong, or the cabling, or the NIC with a heavy helping of "it's the NIC" |
| [06:19:28] | sid3windr: | if you force both sides to 100 it's ok? |
| [06:19:28] | wagnerrp: | Josh__: you do have a lifetime warranty on those things... just hope Intel doesnt confiscate them |
| [06:19:28] | Josh__: | sid3windr, havent forced anything yet. |
| [06:19:28] | sid3windr: | is it a 3com switch? :P |
| [06:19:28] | Dagmar: | We've seen a number of lesser-brands failing to neg at gig speeds |
| [06:19:28] | Josh__: | wagnerrp, huh? An onboard gigibit adapter on an Intel motherboard? |
| [06:19:28] | Josh__: | sid3windr, switches I've tried are Netgear, Netgear, and Linksys. |
| [06:19:28] | wagnerrp: | intel networking equipment is warrantied for life |
| [06:19:28] | Josh__: | wagnerrp, but even onboard cards? *gasp* |
| [06:19:28] | Dagmar: | wagnerrp: They SOO want inroads into that space |
| [06:19:28] | wagnerrp: | you have onboard e1000 hardware? |
| [06:19:28] | wagnerrp: | then you have server grade equipment, likely to have some similar warranty |
| [06:19:28] | Koprolalie: | server grade? pah |
| [06:19:28] | Josh__: | wagnerrp, it's an Intel s478 board – D865PERL or something |
| [06:19:28] | Koprolalie: | dell optiplexes from 04 have e1000 in them |
| [06:19:28] | Koprolalie: | even our 520 now do |
| [06:19:28] | Josh__: | bleh, guess I'll throw my realtek 10/100 card in, 100 is better than 10, anyway |
| [06:19:28] | wagnerrp: | really... everything consumer motherboard ive seen just has some cheepo realtek or marvell yukon controller |
| [06:19:28] | Josh__: | wagnerrp, I wonder if that was my problem all along? Not sure how myth+hdhomerun can handle10mbit. |
| [06:19:28] | wagnerrp: | Josh__: it cant |
| [06:19:28] | Koprolalie: | intel chipsets.. |
| [06:19:28] | Dagmar: | I'm gonna have to look into upgrading my core network to gige here |
| [06:19:28] | Dagmar: | The stuff's cheap enough that I no longer have an excuse not to |
| [06:19:28] | sid3windr: | :) |
| [06:19:28] | Dagmar: | $20 NICs and a $50 switch... pffft. |
| [06:19:28] | sid3windr: | 15 eur for e1000 new in store here :) |
| [06:19:28] | Koprolalie: | yeah you can get an 8 port gigE for 50 |
| [06:19:28] | Dagmar: | That and now that I have the main fileserver running with SATA disks, my network is the choke point again |
| [06:19:28] | Dagmar: | When I upgraded to 100base-T it was becuase my disks were faster than the network, and I'm in the same boat again now |
| [06:19:28] | wagnerrp: | yeah, its nice to push 70+MB/s across the network |
| [06:19:28] | Dagmar: | wagnerrp: I was frankly blown away that I was getting slightly higher than that from this new 1.5Tb disk I got |
| [06:19:28] | Koprolalie: | Dagmar: what kind of disks did you have before? Oo |
| [06:19:28] | Dagmar: | I actually ginned up a build of bonnie++ to test |
| [06:19:28] | wagnerrp: | thats what ive been peaking at on Win7 over samba, usually averages in the mid 50s |
| [06:19:28] | Dagmar: | Koprolalie: This was back in 2000–2001 when I jumped to 100base-T. UDMA was just starting to become common |
| [06:19:28] | Dagmar: | ...so most of my disks were grumbling along at 16–20Mb/s burst |
| [06:19:28] | Koprolalie: | about to say.. drives slower than 10MB/s |
| [06:19:28] | Koprolalie: | ouch |
| [06:19:28] | Dagmar: | This new drive gets close to 80Mb/s _sustained_ |
| [06:19:28] | Dagmar: | Koprolalie: Dude I had a pair of _full height_ SCSI disks that were striped together |
| [06:19:28] | Dagmar: | 4 whole gigabytes |
| [06:19:28] | wagnerrp: | 70–80MB/s should be the sustained throughput on the inner track |
| [06:19:28] | wagnerrp: | outer track should push 130MB/s |
| [06:19:28] | Koprolalie: | yeah I'm lucky I work at out unis IT dep ^^ always dragging home old server hardware |
| [06:19:28] | Dagmar: | This is a LOT faster than 100bT can deal with |
| [06:19:28] | Koprolalie: | not bad had 6 73 gigs in raid 10 |
| [06:19:28] | Dagmar: | Copying all the stuff I had to copy for Windows 7 made it very apparent that I was burning too much time waiting on the network |
| [06:19:28] | Dagmar: | The point of me having the striped 4Gb pair was to accellerate zone times for EverQuest |
| [06:19:28] | Dagmar: | hehh |
| [06:19:28] | Koprolalie: | :D |
| [06:19:28] | Dagmar: | ...cuz most of EQ's files were in RAM on the fileserver, and even if they weren't the disks working together could readily keep up, and there was no competition for head switch times |
| [06:19:28] | Dagmar: | Zone loading times went from 15–20s down to 4s |
| [06:19:28] | Koprolalie: | there was a great deal on ebay today.. 20 73 gig 10k u150 scsi drives for 200 |
| [06:19:28] | Dagmar: | ...cuz it was basically just copying the things from RAM on the fileserver into RAM on my workstation |
| [06:19:28] | Koprolalie: | huh |
| [06:19:28] | Koprolalie: | yeah but with sata speeds scsi is almost out of date |
| [06:19:28] | Dagmar: | Koprolalie: EQ read it's files in a bit of a weird way that wasn't always entirely sequential |
| [06:19:28] | Dagmar: | Koprolalie: ...and remember that head-switch times would drop your read throughput into the crapper |
| [06:19:28] | Koprolalie: | yeah true again.. |
| [06:19:28] | Dagmar: | Even keeping the files almost religiously defragmented could not keep things moving smoothly if the disk had to do anything else important |
| [06:19:28] | Dagmar: | So, with a fileserver that had piles of RAM in it, filesystem caching would do most of the "heavy lifting" of getting the disk into RAM and keeping it there. |
| [06:19:28] | defaultro: | evening folks, is it possible to return an unopened item to newegg if lets say we find the same item locally but at a very much lower price? |
| [06:19:28] | Dagmar: | defaultro: Yeah but since the err was on your part, you're looking at paying a restocking fee and shipping |
| [06:19:28] | defaultro: | got it |
| [06:19:28] | defaultro: | shipping is fine but restocking |
| [06:19:28] | defaultro: | like bestbuy, it's 15% on opened item |
| [06:19:28] | Dagmar: | If that was a sale price you might just see if there's a Craigslist in your area, split the difference on the restocking fee, and see if you can save some bucks that way |
| [06:19:28] | defaultro: | k |
| [06:19:28] | Dagmar: | No shipping, and a 7% loss |
| [06:19:28] | Dagmar: | I've actually done that a few times |
| [06:19:28] | Dagmar: | I bought like five motherboards last year just to test them. |
| [06:19:28] | Dagmar: | Sold them to someone else locally for a loss of half the restocking fee |
| [06:19:28] | defaultro: | i was thinking of buying the parts now at Newegg. Then on thanksgiving sale, if I find something lower, I'll buy it then just return to newegg |
| [06:19:28] | Dagmar: | So like, less than $10 it cost me to mess with the board for a week, and no one ever complained about open box when I could tell them practically encyclopaedic information about the board |
| [06:19:28] | defaultro: | i saw some forum about the newegg cyber monday. THey said that not all items are on big sale |
| [06:19:28] | defaultro: | k |
| [06:19:28] | Dagmar: | Many things are already on such slim margins that no sales prices are really possible |
| [06:19:28] | Dagmar: | Good thing tho that Best Buy has finally figured out that they DO have to compete with that |
| [06:19:28] | Dagmar: | I bought that 1.5Tb drive from Best Buy for $8 more than tax and shipping would have added |
| [06:19:28] | Dagmar: | With JIT delivery models being faciliated by decent inventory management mechanisms, there's really no excuse for brick and mortar to be as far behind in pricing as they were |
| [06:19:28] | mangus580: | anyone any good with irrecord for LIRC? |
| [06:19:28] | Dagmar: | It's going to be painful |
| [06:19:28] | Dagmar: | Master it tho and you can do bloody anything with IR signaling |
| [06:19:28] | mangus580: | :-) I know THAT already LOL |
| [06:19:28] | Dagmar: | I keep meaning to suggest strongly to them that they should change teh approach of their documentation |
| [06:19:28] | Dagmar: | It's a lot easier to deal with LIRC if one doesn't have it in their head that everything should magically work |
| [06:19:28] | Koprolalie: | ohh don't start.. got my usb transceiver in the mail today... |
| [06:19:28] | mangus580: | they even have an approach with their dogs? |
| [06:19:28] | Dagmar: | Approach it like it's a toolkit for _making_ something useful, and there's no more suprises left |
| [06:19:28] | mangus580: | I am making decent headway finally |
| [06:19:28] | mangus580: | just cant get it to record my commands from the remote properly |
| [06:19:28] | mangus580: | and the config file I find for it doesnt work fully (its actually for one model # off) |
| [06:19:28] | Dagmar: | Don't count on it to record 100% |
| [06:19:28] | Koprolalie: | kinda reminds me of my favorite tshirt... it says RTFM |
| [06:19:28] | Dagmar: | Be prepared to look at what it records and then clean the data up once you know for sure what it's sending |
| [06:19:28] | Koprolalie: | :) |
| [06:19:28] | mangus580: | cleaning the data up would be fine... if I knew what the data meant ;-) |
| [06:19:28] | Dagmar: | The data is generally *not* that complex |
| [06:19:28] | mangus580: | thats good... because I am *not* that complex! |
| [06:19:28] | Dagmar: | The hardest thing about it is spotting when a remote is sending "just" a code repeatedly, or if it's sending key-down,code,key-up sequences, or when it's sending keycode,repeat codes |
| [06:19:28] | Dagmar: | Those are pretty much the only three permutations |
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| [06:19:29] | mangus580: | yeah... what its recording doesnt make any sense to me |
| [06:19:29] | mangus580: | doestn even look like the semi-working file for the remote |
| [06:19:29] | Dagmar: | Okay, so focus on whether or not the recorder is detecting the framing right |
| [06:19:29] | Dagmar: | Work on recording just ONE button |
| [06:19:29] | mangus580: | hmmm good idea |
| [06:19:29] | Dagmar: | Start with a button less likely to send sequences that might change depending on how you pressed (or held) the button, like the power button |
| [06:19:29] | Dagmar: | There's no utility in holding that one down with most remotes, so when you push it, it'll just send one code |
| [06:19:29] | Dagmar: | Mostly |
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| [06:19:33] | Dagmar: | Vol+ on the other hand, that one might well be sending a sequence of codes |
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| [06:19:52] | Dagmar: | Mute is another good contender for "I push this, it sends one code, I hold it, it sends the same code" |
| [06:19:59] | wagnerrp: | well that was rather delayed... |
| [06:22:53] | mangus580: | nope wont even do the one button |
| [06:24:10] | Dagmar: | Okay then something is fundamentally messed up with the reciever then |
| [06:24:26] | Dagmar: | ...or at least the recieveing "mechanism" |
| [06:24:48] | Dagmar: | Most likely cause is looking for the wrong encoding mechanism |
| [06:25:07] | Dagmar: | There's two that _could_ be used. |
| [06:26:07] | Dagmar: | One works like so... with the highs being ones and the lows being zero so _-_--__- would be 01011001 |
| [06:26:13] | mangus580: | well... there is one config file for this remote that works... it just doesnt encompass all the buttons |
| [06:26:18] | mangus580: | but it works about perfect |
| [06:26:23] | Dagmar: | The other works based on the time length between changes |
| [06:26:39] | Dagmar: | So that _-_--__- would be 00110 |
| [06:27:03] | Dagmar: | Ah okay, so those buttons are using different sequences |
| [06:27:09] | mangus580: | here is the odd thing... the one that works looks like this (now its only the 'top' half that works, the bottom is not working) |
| [06:27:09] | mangus580: | http://lirc.sourceforge.net/remotes/uei/DVR-1055 |
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| [06:27:36] | Dagmar: | Okay so you can see that it's constant-length encoding |
| [06:27:46] | mangus580: | when I record... it records looking like this file http://lirc.sourceforge.net/remotes/scientifi . . . orer_8300_HD |
| [06:27:47] | Dagmar: | Make sure you're not using record in a manner that looks for phase-shift encoding |
| [06:28:00] | Dagmar: | That mistake will result in the recorder showing you random gibberish practically |
| [06:28:15] | mangus580: | ohhh |
| [06:28:21] | mangus580: | lemme try something |
| [06:28:59] | Dagmar: | Yeah I do *literally* mean LIRC is easier to deal with if you look at it like a _tool_ for analyzing and building working configs |
| [06:29:33] | Dagmar: | ...but like most complex tools, you do have to know quite a lot about what you're trying to work on |
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| [06:29:57] | Dagmar: | Chainsaws look easy, but there's a lot to them that will take your fingers away if you don't know about trees |
| [06:30:22] | Dagmar: | Things like, "has anyone ever hung a hammoc here" and "is this thing hollow at this point" |
| [06:30:33] | mangus580: | I had something come up suggesting I use the -f flag to make it work |
| [06:30:36] | mangus580: | so I was using it |
| [06:30:40] | mangus580: | now reading the man.... |
| [06:30:44] | mangus580: | I see thats probably a BIG mistake |
| [06:30:50] | Dagmar: | You probably should have looked up what that flag does |
| [06:31:01] | Dagmar: | ...but each little piece of new information helps |
| [06:31:17] | mangus580: | yeah |
| [06:31:20] | mangus580: | brb... trying again |
| [06:31:53] | Dagmar: | Notice that second file you linked probably _was_ generated by irrecord and cleaned up a bit |
| [06:32:17] | Dagmar: | Someone who wanted to could actually sit down and convert that data into more palatable and transparent hex |
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| [06:34:02] | Dagmar: | Those timings look so regular I doubt it's phase shift stuff |
| [06:34:28] | defaultro: | Thanks Dagmar for the info |
| [06:34:40] | Dagmar: | np |
| [06:36:15] | karamorf: | I'm having some problems with MythVideo on MythTv .22 ... I can't seem to figure out how to get it to find my video files. I've added the correct path to the setting, is it just suppose to find videos automatically? i remember in previous versions you had to tell it to scan for files, but the documentation says this is no longer the case ... is there some kind of debug mode I can use to figure out the problem. I installed it from source if that makes a |
| [06:36:32] | Dagmar: | mangus580: What may help is if you actually scribble a little something to show you the _binary_ output of irrecord |
| [06:36:47] | wagnerrp: | karamorf: in previous versions, you had to go into the video manager to scan for files |
| [06:37:08] | Dagmar: | karamorf: Yeah, start the frontend with -v all (IIRC) to make it show you all verbose debug info |
| [06:37:10] | wagnerrp: | now, video management has been shifted to the context menus, as has an option to scan |
| [06:37:31] | Dagmar: | wagnerrp: So you still have to tell it by default? |
| [06:37:32] | wagnerrp: | however there is still no automatic scanning |
| [06:37:38] | mangus580: | Dagmar: http://pastebin.com/d324b98e4 |
| [06:37:40] | Dagmar: | Ah much simpler then |
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| [06:38:15] | mangus580: | seems it still used raw mode |
| [06:38:22] | Dagmar: | Well, yes. |
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| [06:38:44] | Dagmar: | It's the sanest way to record when you don't know which encoding mechanism is used |
| [06:38:45] | karamorf: | whats the keyboard shortcut to open the context menu? |
| [06:38:57] | wagnerrp: | 'm' and 'i' are the two menu keys |
| [06:39:02] | karamorf: | thanks |
| [06:39:46] | Dagmar: | mangus580: ...tryin' to remember wtf the format represents in raw mode |
| [06:40:03] | Dagmar: | I know it's the time spent high or low but I may have to go look it up |
| [06:40:24] | mangus580: | :-) |
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| [06:41:08] | Dagmar: | mangus580: This seems applicable tho |
| [06:41:11] | Dagmar: | http://old.nabble.com/irrecord-blaster-problem-td6069195.html |
| [06:41:14] | Dagmar: | Look at the first response |
| [06:41:38] | Dagmar: | There's a VERY good chance your remote is speaking RC5 or 6 |
| [06:41:53] | mangus580: | agreed |
| [06:41:57] | Dagmar: | If it is, that gives irrecord a much better idea of how it should watch |
| [06:41:57] | mangus580: | which is more popular? |
| [06:42:15] | Dagmar: | 5 I think, but it's not really a matter of "popularity" |
| [06:42:32] | Dagmar: | Most remote controls and the protocol they use are practically thrown together at the last minute |
| [06:42:51] | Dagmar: | "It works now" being the only thing generally adhered to |
| [06:43:52] | Dagmar: | This is why when you get a one4all there's hundreds of different models instead of just a dozen |
| [06:44:01] | mangus580: | so you would suggest using the RC-5 (or 6) template in the generic listing... and start with that |
| [06:44:07] | Dagmar: | Everyone's trying desperately to make their remote NOT accidentally work on anything else |
| [06:44:11] | Dagmar: | Yeah |
| [06:44:41] | Dagmar: | mangus580: Unless the remote control is BROKEN (I have one such remote) the pulses it sends should be of a really, REALLY obvious length |
| [06:45:20] | Dagmar: | You might not know what it is at first, but given a specific sampling frequency you can deduce it rather easily, IF the device's output signal is stable |
| [06:45:24] | mangus580: | well when I try to do a button using RC5 I get 'Something went wrong. Please try again.' |
| [06:45:27] | mangus580: | trying 6 now |
| [06:46:06] | mangus580: | nope... get hte same with 6 |
| [06:47:32] | Dagmar: | Okay. This will sound weird, but have you used mode2? |
| [06:47:44] | mangus580: | I have tried it |
| [06:47:53] | mangus580: | but not really sure what I am doing with it |
| [06:47:55] | Dagmar: | It'll tell you what your reciever is seeing |
| [06:48:01] | Dagmar: | It emits time lengths |
| [06:48:02] | mangus580: | see tons of ref to it.. but nothing really giving much info |
| [06:48:46] | Dagmar: | With this information you can "see" (even better if you can use libgd or something)... |
| [06:48:55] | Dagmar: | ...the time the signal spent being high or low |
| [06:49:03] | mangus580: | k |
| [06:49:54] | Dagmar: | If nothing else you should be able to just _watch_ it's output in realtime to figure out if a button is sending one burst of stuff, or a stream |
| [06:50:03] | Dagmar: | Find the button with the shortest burst of "stuff" |
| [06:50:16] | mangus580: | ok, had to siwth the lircd.conf back to the one that 'kinda worked' to get any output at all on mode2 |
| [06:50:45] | Dagmar: | I always told it to just read the device raw |
| [06:50:48] | mangus580: | http://pastebin.com/dbd10744 |
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| [06:50:58] | mangus580: | was the output I got |
| [06:51:04] | Dagmar: | xmode2 looks like it would make it easier to look at, but I've never used it |
| [06:52:03] | Dagmar: | You could also take the easy mode option |
| [06:52:07] | Dagmar: | Is the remote programmable? |
| [06:52:10] | Dagmar: | :) |
| [06:52:12] | mangus580: | no |
| [06:52:15] | mangus580: | well |
| [06:52:16] | mangus580: | yeah |
| [06:52:16] | Dagmar: | Drat |
| [06:52:21] | mangus580: | on a different function button |
| [06:52:26] | Dagmar: | I have a one4all urc9660. |
| [06:52:27] | mangus580: | but its programmable by device |
| [06:52:33] | mangus580: | not a 'learn' |
| [06:52:46] | mangus580: | this is the remote http://www.urcsupport.com/html.php?page_id=289 |
| [06:52:48] | Dagmar: | So tell it to pretend to be something "known" |
| [06:52:59] | mangus580: | well, see thats the thing |
| [06:53:06] | Dagmar: | Dude, tell it to behave like a Phillips rc-6 |
| [06:53:12] | mangus580: | I have found codes for the Scientific Atlanta boxes it works with |
| [06:53:15] | mangus580: | but they dont work either |
| [06:53:24] | mangus580: | so I suspect... that each cable company uses their own :-( |
| [06:53:37] | mangus580: | and I cant change the cable mode |
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| [06:53:43] | mangus580: | which overrides like 1/3 the buttons |
| [06:53:43] | Dagmar: | Lemme dig a bit here |
| [06:53:54] | mangus580: | honestly, I should stop being so damn cheap and just buy a remote |
| [06:54:01] | Dagmar: | http://www.vulturesnest.net/mythtvremote.html |
| [06:54:05] | mangus580: | but I have like 3 of these stupid things |
| [06:54:10] | Dagmar: | I paid $14 for the remote at Wal Mart |
| [06:54:19] | Dagmar: | Follow that guy's procedure |
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| [06:54:42] | mangus580: | hmmm yanno... |
| [06:55:09] | Dagmar: | Yes, I felt stupid for not having thought to do that initially |
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| [06:55:42] | mangus580: | I do have one of these... http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=11019000 |
| [06:55:43] | Dagmar: | I'd previously had three different "multimedia PC" remotes that I'd slogged through COMPLETELY reverse-engineering |
| [06:56:07] | Dagmar: | One of which was insane, because it's crystal was broke and it's signal was NOT constant |
| [06:56:37] | Dagmar: | ...so when I got the URC I started dumping the raw data, figuring out the codes and then googled it and found that guy's page |
| [06:58:51] | Dagmar: | The only reason I went to that much trouble is because with the ebay'd remotes, I *had* to so I'd gotten used to it |
| [06:59:26] | Dagmar: | It never occurred to me that instead of using LIRC to figure out what the remote was sending, I should just change what the remote was sending to something LIRC could for sure understand |
| [07:01:56] | mangus580: | heh |
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| [07:07:10] | mangus580: | so... I should go down through my universal list, find a device code that works with lirc and calli tgood :-) |
| [07:09:06] | Dagmar: | *Absolutely* |
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| [07:17:03] | mangus580: | making progress! |
| [07:17:43] | mangus580: | problem is, my 'navigation' pad mimicks the play/ffwd/rwd/stop buttons :-( |
| [07:22:52] | Dagmar: | Read the vulture's nest page |
| [07:23:02] | mangus580: | I did |
| [07:23:08] | Dagmar: | The procedure he outlines for changing individual buttons on the one4all remote actually works on a lot of them |
| [07:23:11] | mangus580: | but with my remote not being that exact one... |
| [07:23:15] | mangus580: | but |
| [07:23:17] | mangus580: | I have an idea |
| [07:23:27] | Dagmar: | Try it and see |
| [07:23:33] | mangus580: | didnt work |
| [07:28:37] | mangus580: | nope... that no workie |
| [07:28:42] | mangus580: | thought maybe I could pull all the codes out of the file |
| [07:28:45] | mangus580: | and run IRrecord again |
| [07:28:52] | mangus580: | it didnt record a dman thing LOL |
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| [07:33:21] | iamlindoro: | ah, Dibblah's awake |
| [07:33:35] | Dibblah: | What'd I break? |
| [07:33:48] | iamlindoro: | nothing, but at least you will appreciate this |
| [07:33:56] | iamlindoro: | http://www.fecitfacta.com/simpleipsetup.png |
| [07:33:59] | iamlindoro: | http://www.fecitfacta.com/simplecapture3.png |
| [07:34:03] | iamlindoro: | http://www.fecitfacta.com/deletecard.png |
| [07:34:16] | Dibblah: | Oh. But... |
| [07:34:24] | Dibblah: | This makes it too easy to set up myth! |
| [07:34:33] | Dibblah: | You're breaking down our barrier to entry! |
| [07:34:36] | Dibblah: | ;) |
| [07:34:40] | iamlindoro: | heh |
| [07:34:47] | Dibblah: | Autodetecting IP addresses? |
| [07:34:57] | iamlindoro: | yep |
| [07:35:15] | Dibblah: | :) |
| [07:35:48] | iamlindoro: | also prevents you from making stupid setup mistakes (ie it won't let you set the loopback as the slave backend address, designating the BE a slave is just a matter of checking the checkbox, etc.) |
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| [07:36:58] | Dibblah: | Nice job! :) |
| [07:37:07] | iamlindoro: | thanks :) |
| [07:37:20] | iamlindoro: | The rest is a lot harder to simplify |
| [07:37:38] | iamlindoro: | trying to figure out which options in capture card setup are absolute essentials... think I can do it with four |
| [07:37:39] | Dibblah: | Direct access, or only through wizard? |
| [07:38:02] | iamlindoro: | it's only through the wizard, with an option to toggle to "Classic mode" |
| [07:38:13] | ** Dibblah needs to check if the bug that meant DVB on demand was broken is still there. ** | |
| [07:38:18] | Dibblah: | (should be default) |
| [07:38:26] | iamlindoro: | can't get past a step without it being done properly, so finishing the wizard may limit your setup option, but guarantees a working backend at the end |
| [07:39:03] | iamlindoro: | people wanting more exotic setups can use the regular mode, but this should cover 90% of first time setups IMO |
| [07:39:05] | Dibblah: | Well, if the configuration only takes 5 minutes and not very much brainwork, that's no real issue. |
| [07:40:06] | iamlindoro: | Indeed-- the idea is to offer a lightning quick/dead easy setup for the average user who just wants to set up a capture card and have a DVR |
| [07:40:16] | Dibblah: | I still like the idea of the backend autodetecting the cards / sources. |
| [07:40:23] | Dagmar: | Well, _that_ can be done if you assume a given set of hardware |
| [07:40:31] | Dibblah: | (for digital inputs) |
| [07:40:53] | Dibblah: | No – I specifically mean doing away with "input connections" |
| [07:41:37] | Dibblah: | ... You have scanned channels, which you detect through trying to tune to a known multiplex, then do a fuzzy match to see which source it belongs to. |
| [07:41:44] | iamlindoro: | My hope is that the wizard will never even expose the first time user to myth-specific vocabulary. The first time user shouldn't need to know what a listing source is |
| [07:42:21] | iamlindoro: | ie, step three will be, "Great. Now let's set up the source of your listing information. MythTV relies on listings to provide advanced scheduling and timeshifting capabilities yadda yadd" |
| [07:42:25] | Dibblah: | Takes an extra maybe 5 seconds to startup, but... None of the "my cards changed around and now Myth is busted" |
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| [07:44:38] | mangus580: | Dagmar: you still here? |
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| [08:34:00] | fregoMT: | is thetvdb.com down? |
| [08:34:38] | fregoMT: | does anyone know if the DB is mirrored? I'm trying to fix up metatag info for videos using jamu. |
| [08:34:53] | iamlindoro: | http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/thetvdb.com |
| [08:35:19] | iamlindoro: | and no, it's not mirrored anywhere user accessible |
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| [08:36:32] | Seventoes: | anyone ever had mupen64plus not able to go full screen? #mupen64plus is dead |
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| [08:37:47] | fregoMT: | ahh... bummer. Thanks for the new tool, iamlindoro |
| [08:38:30] | iamlindoro: | np. TVDB is frequently down on weekends when everyone is trying to use it-- strongly encourage donating to them so that they can improve that situation |
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| [08:41:10] | neverett: | can anyone help me with a newbie question? |
| [08:41:52] | Seventoes: | neverett: don't ask to ask, just ask |
| [08:43:31] | neverett: | haha ok... |
| [08:43:44] | neverett: | here's my situation and i'm wondering if mythtv is right for me |
| [08:43:57] | Seventoes: | mythtv vaccumed my living room earlier |
| [08:44:08] | neverett: | LOL |
| [08:44:40] | neverett: | i have my dvd collection backed up on ubuntu as iso images... i'm wondering if i can use mythtv as an interface to play them on my tv |
| [08:44:48] | Seventoes: | yup |
| [08:45:08] | Seventoes: | afaik at least, but i'm pretty sure mythtv can play isos of dvds |
| [08:45:26] | neverett: | next question... how would i get mythtv set up to do something like that? |
| [08:45:42] | Seventoes: | i think just set up the dir as a video source and mythtv does the rest |
| [08:45:49] | Seventoes: | might need to ask the all-knowing google though |
| [08:46:17] | neverett: | would i need the backend and frontend installed... i plan on just using the computer as a media center |
| [08:46:38] | Seventoes: | use mythbuntu and it's a simple thing to set up :) |
| [08:46:52] | neverett: | got it |
| [08:46:53] | Seventoes: | you select the system role during setup |
| [08:47:01] | Seventoes: | so just pick Frontend + Backand and it's all good |
| [08:47:12] | neverett: | sounds good |
| [08:47:21] | neverett: | thank you very much for your help! |
| [08:47:25] | Seventoes: | yup :) |
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| [08:49:54] | snafuflux: | anyone around to field a mythvideo .22 question? |
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| [08:52:18] | snafuflux: | ok, well I was wondering if mythvideo had a password option to remove the ability of letting users delete actual files |
| [08:52:39] | snafuflux: | I can see someone messing around with my settings and delete something with out knowing they're deleting the file! |
| [08:54:29] | fregoMT: | How about changing permissions on the files themselves? chmod 555 *.avi -R |
| [08:54:54] | snafuflux: | will this go into subdirs as well? |
| [08:54:57] | fregoMT: | that should keep everyone from getting to them. Who else is logged on to your machine that could do that? |
| [08:55:03] | fregoMT: | I think the -R does that |
| [08:55:08] | Seventoes: | -R makes it do subdirs |
| [08:55:30] | snafuflux: | well, no one else. it's an actual front end. so peopel using the remote could just be messing around and click delete |
| [08:55:35] | fregoMT: | make sure you are in the correct video directory before executing that command |
| [08:55:43] | fregoMT: | and you'll have to be root or sudo it first |
| [08:56:29] | snafuflux: | for mkvs I'd just use mkv instead of avi, ya |
| [08:56:38] | Seventoes: | yup |
| [08:56:42] | snafuflux: | nice |
| [08:56:50] | snafuflux: | you rock |
| [08:56:52] | snafuflux: | testing now |
| [08:59:45] | snafuflux: | would I want 555 or 444? |
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| [09:00:58] | fregoMT: | 444 I think |
| [09:01:25] | snafuflux: | yah, thats what I was thinking. correct me, if I'm wrong. 4 = read, 2 = write 1 = execute |
| [09:01:32] | snafuflux: | or |
| [09:06:18] | snafuflux: | hmm, didn't work. 5 or 4. I think it's because mythreal is running as the user who has full acces |
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| [09:09:00] | fregoMT: | it may have deleted it from the DB, but I'll bet the file is still there. |
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| [09:09:11] | fregoMT: | It's on a linux filesystem right? |
| [09:10:05] | fregoMT: | check that you've actually changed the permission with ls -al |
| [09:11:22] | snafuflux: | yah it's linux, ext4 |
| [09:11:29] | snafuflux: | the file goes bye bye |
| [09:11:35] | snafuflux: | I watch it using thuner |
| [09:15:22] | snafuflux: | there we go |
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| [09:17:12] | snafuflux: | 444 worked. dunno why it wasn't before |
| [09:17:23] | snafuflux: | this should work on samba shares too, eh |
| [09:18:49] | fregoMT: | you'll make the changes on the server hosting the files naturally. |
| [09:19:07] | fregoMT: | you could also mount the samba shares as read only |
| [09:19:28] | snafuflux: | ooh |
| [09:19:30] | snafuflux: | how do you do that |
| [09:19:51] | snafuflux: | I'm using the gf interface to share :P |
| [09:19:59] | snafuflux: | I'm not a linux buff yet |
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| [09:24:04] | fregoMT: | I think it'd be in your /etc/fstab file. you specify ro as an option when you mount |
| [09:24:11] | snafuflux: | actually, I think the final result for what I want is: be able to write over samba (download and store via a windows box), but not allow anyone but root delete |
| [09:24:15] | fregoMT: | from the command line it's "-o ro" |
| [09:24:53] | fregoMT: | I like samba... but you are talking about serving it up on a windows box? |
| [09:24:59] | fregoMT: | I don't recommend that |
| [09:25:01] | snafuflux: | no no |
| [09:25:05] | fregoMT: | oh ok |
| [09:25:06] | snafuflux: | it's all on linux |
| [09:25:08] | fregoMT: | cool |
| [09:25:15] | snafuflux: | but I download movies/tv from a window sbox |
| [09:25:22] | snafuflux: | and I copy over to my linux box |
| [09:25:25] | fregoMT: | Gotcha |
| [09:25:32] | snafuflux: | so windows share (samba) needs access to linux (write) |
| [09:25:40] | fregoMT: | I'm running azureus on linux... works pretty good for downloads |
| [09:25:42] | snafuflux: | but I don't want anyone (other than root) deleting files |
| [09:25:59] | fregoMT: | ya, that's pretty straight forward |
| [09:26:03] | snafuflux: | I haven't made the full transition yet hah. |
| [09:26:24] | snafuflux: | straight forward to you, but I don't know how to do this! your guidance would be appreciated |
| [09:26:26] | fregoMT: | the uid's can be a pain in the ass when you are going to a share from multiple boxes |
| [09:26:41] | fregoMT: | the uid's will want to be the same when you set user level permissions |
| [09:27:05] | fregoMT: | Gotta hit the hay... good luck man |
| [09:27:11] | snafuflux: | thanks |
| [09:27:13] | snafuflux: | nite |
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| [10:55:42] | Guest55322: | hey all, when I switch to a hd tv channel, I here very loud static, sd tv channels are fine any ideas? |
| [10:55:58] | Guest55322: | I'm using a soundblaster live with digital out. |
| [10:56:37] | flexxxv: | hello I am just using mythtv 0.22 (ubuntu karmic) got all working, just one problem: The teletext shows up too small (see here: http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/2490/bilds . . . ythtvfro.png ). Changing the screen resolution is not fixing this. |
| [10:57:31] | Guest55322: | I've enabled ac3 dts pass thru and using alsa. |
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| [13:46:42] | rooter7: | Suddenly in converting to 0.22, now my Program Guide only shows 6 channels. I want 10 or more, but can't find where to set this? |
| [13:48:00] | mag0o: | that is determined by the theme |
| [13:48:46] | rooter7: | With 0.21 I could set it. Maybe I edited the xml? |
| [13:50:25] | mag0o: | it was a setting in .21, now in .22 it is controlled by the theme |
| [13:53:20] | rooter7: | Hm, that's retarded. Any idea where the setting is? Not in base.xml. |
| [13:54:13] | mag0o: | schedule-ui.xml – it's there so that themer can ensure that their theme looks as they intended |
| [13:55:15] | mag0o: | i *believe* you're looking for <timeslots>x</timeslots> |
| [13:55:37] | rooter7: | neon-wide doesn't seem to have a schedule-ui.xml. |
| [13:55:59] | rooter7: | ... checked all subs too. |
| [13:56:26] | dustybin: | i had my first ever .22 segfault, i tried to load a FLAC in mythmusic and *BANG* |
| [13:56:35] | dustybin: | no more frontend |
| [13:58:27] | rooter7: | OK there's a schedule-ui.xml under default and default-wide. |
| [13:59:22] | rooter7: | Maybe <channels>5</channels> and <timeslots>4</timeslots> |
| [13:59:25] | justinh: | rooter7: neon-wide, blootube, blootube-wide, projectgrayhem & projectgrayhem-wide are all deprecated |
| [13:59:41] | justinh: | no longer supported & I will no longer develop them |
| [14:00:07] | rooter7: | Dang, I guess I have to find a new dark theme. |
| [14:00:37] | justinh: | anybody is of course free to learn theming & can maybe get help porting themes to mythui |
| [14:00:39] | dustybin: | rooter7: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythUI_Theme_Development |
| [14:01:18] | justinh: | dunno why anybody prefers the old layouts anyway |
| [14:02:12] | justinh: | rooter7: and good luck getting > 5 channels to look decent in the EPG with any theme |
| [14:02:28] | dustybin: | justinh: can you pick up G.O.L.D ? |
| [14:02:36] | justinh: | dustybin: it's a PAID FOR channel |
| [14:02:48] | justinh: | one of the bloody useless TUTV thingies |
| [14:02:48] | dustybin: | ohhh thats why!! i can never tune in |
| [14:03:00] | justinh: | aunting numpty |
| [14:03:05] | dustybin: | for some reason i cannot tune into Television X, i could do before |
| [14:03:16] | justinh: | yes, people actually PAY for all those Only Fools & Horses repeats |
| [14:03:33] | dustybin: | they never repeat the early ones either |
| [14:03:45] | justinh: | dustybin: like maybe it's because it's not broadcasting now :P |
| [14:03:55] | dustybin: | justinh: i tried last night |
| [14:04:00] | justinh: | and? |
| [14:04:08] | dustybin: | and the night before, i can get the EIT channel info, i tune in and nothing |
| [14:04:23] | justinh: | no great loss |
| [14:04:26] | justinh: | I've seen it |
| [14:04:32] | justinh: | there's better on youtube |
| [14:04:33] | dustybin: | hmmm one of my favourite channels :( |
| [14:05:04] | justinh: | and if your interests are, say.. more esoteric.. certainly much better available on the net :D |
| [14:05:08] | jduggan: | isnt that a porn station? |
| [14:05:17] | justinh: | not what I would call porn |
| [14:05:53] | jduggan: | some people will watch anything |
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| [14:06:12] | justinh: | QVC |
| [14:07:26] | rooter7: | justinh: it looked fine with 8 channels in neon-wide, as I have a 12' screen. It was so nice to be ablke tosee all HBO and Shotime on one screen so I could set schedules. |
| [14:07:59] | justinh: | 12' screen at what resolution though |
| [14:08:12] | rooter7: | 1080p |
| [14:08:21] | justinh: | now with channel groups you don't need that junk |
| [14:08:35] | rooter7: | ? |
| [14:08:41] | justinh: | yeah you can group channels |
| [14:09:07] | rooter7: | Would that let me see lots of channels on one screen? |
| [14:09:37] | rooter7: | I've already set indigent channels invisible, so see what I want. |
| [14:09:45] | justinh: | no but grouping would do away with the need to have lots of channels visible |
| [14:09:59] | justinh: | certainly a more intelligent solution |
| [14:10:14] | justinh: | you people who want 3 pixel high text just because you run at 1080. MEH |
| [14:10:29] | justinh: | look – I can have 200 lines of text! |
| [14:10:48] | rooter7: | Right now the letters are a foot high... |
| [14:11:01] | rooter7: | ... and I'm 8' away. |
| [14:11:01] | justinh: | boo hoo |
| [14:11:07] | justinh: | get editing the xml then |
| [14:11:44] | rooter7: | Not criticizing you... just looking for a solution. |
| [14:11:53] | justinh: | get editing the xml then |
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| [14:12:12] | rooter7: | Well of course I'm trying to do that. |
| [14:14:08] | rooter7: | Can't figure out how to make the text small tho. Have <font> small, but it's not enough. Reduced all the points, but still not enough. |
| [14:14:54] | justinh: | where is the font defined? |
| [14:15:44] | rooter7: | I'm looking in <guidegrid> |
| [14:16:16] | rooter7: | On my remote frontend machine it's ignoring my settings in schedule-ui |
| [14:16:18] | justinh: | no where is the font *defined* |
| [14:16:31] | rooter7: | IDK. |
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| [14:16:42] | justinh: | like where you say <font>small</font> just calls up the font |
| [14:17:01] | justinh: | you need to find out the part that says <font name="small"> yada yada yada </font> |
| [14:17:01] | rooter7: | base? |
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| [14:17:14] | justinh: | usually base.xml yeah |
| [14:17:35] | justinh: | though you can define your own in the -ui.xml page |
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| [14:18:06] | justinh: | e.g. <font name="epgsmall" base="small"> <pizelsize>30</pixelsize></font> |
| [14:18:11] | rooter7: | I've set <channels> and <timeslots> on the remote, but it's still 6x4 |
| [14:18:24] | justinh: | that'd inherit stuff from the small font but be 30 pixels high |
| [14:18:45] | justinh: | which schedule-ui.xml file did you edit? |
| [14:19:03] | rooter7: | metallurgy, which is the theme I'm using now. |
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| [14:19:22] | justinh: | if you're using a wide theme you should change the default-wide/schedule-ui.xml if the theme doesn't have it already |
| [14:19:57] | rooter7: | Ah. But isn't the default and default-wide overwritten when I change the theme? |
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| [14:20:12] | new2linx: | trying to run mythrename.pl from master backend and I am gettting "This host not configured for myth, (No RecordFilePrefix defined for dell in the settings table.)" can anyone help please? |
| [14:21:12] | justinh: | rooter7: in metallurgy's schedule-ui.xml it uses small for the font, which is defined in its base.xml file – and that is only loaded once when you first run mythfrontend. so to see changes you'd have to reload mythfrontend |
| [14:21:30] | justinh: | rooter7: defining a new font locally in schedule-ui.xml will get you there faster |
| [14:21:33] | new2linx: | someone suggested I need to copy a ~/.mythtv/config.xml from a frontend that can successfully connect to database and paste it on the master backend but the master backend already has a config.xml. it contains this: http://pastebin.com/f2d5d25e6 |
| [14:22:55] | justinh: | rooter7: you'll also have to change the channellist buttonlist |
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| [14:26:29] | justinh: | arghhh more emails from monitor |
| [14:26:33] | justinh: | monit, even |
| [14:26:37] | rooter7: | In changing just <channels> and <timeslots> to 10–6 I get 6–6 in the display. Maybe it refuses to display more than the fontsize will allow. Although I did set epgsmall as you said, I didn't set <font> to that. Trying... |
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| [14:28:25] | rooter7: | Nah, no change. |
| [14:28:31] | justinh: | rooter7: see this pastebin: http://pastebin.ca/1671156 |
| [14:29:09] | justinh: | put the 3 font definition lines in before <guidegrid |
| [14:29:20] | justinh: | and change the <font> from small to epgsmall |
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| [14:29:35] | justinh: | save the file, go back to the menu & back into the guide |
| [14:29:52] | justinh: | and btw this is the manage recordings EPG not the livetv one |
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| [14:30:21] | justinh: | if you want to change the list of channels by the side you'll also need to change the buttonlist called 'channellist' |
| [14:30:39] | Josh__: | Wow, Debian lenny doesnt have xfs, jfs nor ext4 support out of the box... |
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| [14:31:46] | justinh: | be way easier just to change a native 1080p theme |
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| [14:32:14] | justinh: | oops there aren't yet any :D |
| [14:32:25] | justinh: | time to go out & do stuff |
| [14:32:41] | rooter7: | justinh: thanks, but still 6x6 |
| [14:33:11] | rooter7: | Trying to get 10x6. I hope # comments things out in xml... |
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| [14:36:56] | rooter7: | WAFM, I do have 10 channels, but the buttonlist is still 6... changing. |
| [14:37:50] | jarle: | uhm.... after upgrading my kernel I do not have any /dev/dvb/ dir??? Any idea what has changed? |
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| [14:40:14] | fstx: | How can I find out what's in my .nuv files, esp resolution? |
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| [14:45:28] | fstxx: | How can I find out what's in my .nuv files, esp resolution? |
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| [14:49:47] | rooter7: | No idea. |
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| [14:54:53] | fstxx: | rooter7: Apparently VLC can tell me (the unmentionable version at least). Stream and media-info, advanced tab gives me RJPG, 480x576. But it can't play it! |
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| [14:55:57] | rooter7: | mplayer from the command-line? |
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| [14:57:46] | fstxx: | probably, but what I need to know now is what bitrate I should use |
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| [14:59:03] | rooter7: | IDK about nuv, but for mkv SD 2Mb and HD 6MB. |
| [14:59:20] | rooter7: | Come into the 21st century... |
| [14:59:33] | Josh__: | Okay, so the devices are there, and they're set to the permissions of the user running mythtv-setup, but mythtv-setup can't probe the cards? |
| [14:59:40] | dlonie: | Hi guys, does anyone know if there is a version of mythstream that works with Qt4? |
| [14:59:59] | dlonie: | Or any sort of network stream player? |
| [15:00:30] | rooter7: | streamplayer, streamripper. |
| [15:01:18] | fstxx: | rooter7: I am trying, but I have some things recorded from Analog that I (or rather my kids) want to keep |
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| [15:01:53] | rooter7: | IDK anything about nuv. |
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| [15:04:10] | dlonie: | Hrm, neither of those do quite what I'm looking for. I just want to be able to play an ogg stream from the network in myth. Mythstream seems to do this, but it's not compiling with qt4 :-/ |
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| [15:07:29] | captainc: | Guys, I'm looking for some basic info about using mythtv to tune channels from a comcast hd box and viewing them through the pc. MythTV is capable of doing both correct? |
| [15:10:30] | Josh__: | Captain_Murdoch, with the right hardware |
| [15:10:50] | Josh__: | captainc, Are you expecting to keep the HD signal? |
| [15:11:30] | captainc: | Josh__: I think being able to record the program would be a big plus. I am most concerned with tuning and watching though. |
| [15:12:17] | captainc: | If MythTV could act as the DVR, it would be awesome. I don't expect to get a comcast dvr box, just one that can tune the HD channels. |
| [15:12:28] | Josh__: | captainc, Most analog cards with hardware encoding are capable of taking a signal from S-Video, and encoding it for playback in myth. I do exactly that with my PVR-150 |
| [15:12:37] | captainc: | I currently have the default SD one. |
| [15:12:51] | Josh__: | Ok then, right now your'e stuck with S-Video as highest video quality. |
| [15:12:55] | Josh__: | I'm in the same boat. |
| [15:13:25] | Josh__: | In order to get true HD video into myth from the Comcast HD box, you need a Hauppauge HD-PVR |
| [15:14:08] | captainc: | It would record from the Component cables? |
| [15:14:13] | Josh__: | If you're happy with SD video, any card with S-Video inputs (and preferably hardware encoding!) will do. |
| [15:14:35] | Josh__: | Captain_Murdoch, the HD-PVR uses the component video output on your HD Set-top box. |
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| [15:16:53] | captainc: | Do any common graphics cards have HD capture capability? |
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| [15:17:41] | Josh__: | captainc, A few have that capability, VERY few actualy work in linux. |
| [15:19:10] | captainc: | I have a gtx 280... any word on that card? |
| [15:19:13] | Josh__: | captainc, your best bet is to get a Hauppauge PVR-150, they're SD only, but getting really cheap. |
| [15:19:43] | Josh__: | It's not really worth your time trying to debug something with minimal linux support. |
| [15:19:50] | fstxx: | Does that HD-box to HD-PVR via components work in Europe? |
| [15:20:31] | captainc: | gotcha. now what about controlling the set top box itself? mythtv sends a signal to it to change the channels? |
| [15:20:32] | Josh__: | fstxx, I'm completely speaking out of my ass, but I dont see why not. Unless theres a NTSC/PAL conflict, I dont remember what you guys use in europe. |
| [15:21:05] | Josh__: | captainc, that's where it gets interesting. There are generally two ways of controlling a Comcast STB. Infrared (works, but unreliable), and firewire. |
| [15:21:30] | Josh__: | captainc, Since 2004 the cableco's are REQUIRED to provide you a STB with a working firewire port upon request. |
| [15:21:51] | Josh__: | Funny thing is, very few employees at Comcast even know about that FCC ruling. |
| [15:23:02] | fstxx: | Josh__: I don't even know of HD-boxes here have component output, and if so, what comes out of them. I would hope that you get the full resoultion from the digital input. |
| [15:23:09] | captainc: | hmm, ok. seems like this sd box has usb only. |
| [15:23:37] | Josh__: | captainc, that firewire FCC ruling is only for the HD boxes, and it's only required "on request" |
| [15:23:49] | Josh__: | Captain_Murdoch, You have the new Cisco RNG-100, I take it? |
| [15:24:04] | captainc: | SA Explorer 2200 |
| [15:24:33] | Josh__: | captainc, Oh, no experience with that box. Don't expect the USB ports to actually work though :/ |
| [15:26:44] | Josh__: | So what you need, is an infrared blaster (they make some dedicated blasters for serial ports, I just used an MCEUSB2 reciever with blasting capability) |
| [15:26:54] | Josh__: | and a dedicated video encoding card. |
| [15:27:00] | Josh__: | PVR150 is a suggestion. |
| [15:27:47] | captainc: | ok great |
| [15:28:16] | Josh__: | then get yourself set up on SchedulesDirect (for listings data) and your'e golden. |
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| [15:40:23] | captainc: | thanks again Josh |
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| [15:52:36] | fstxx: | I am trying to use mythweb to add imdb numbers, but the cover does not appear. What do I have to do? |
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| [15:55:22] | Josh__: | Anyone have Debian and can tell me how the hell to get the 'v4l2-ctl' utility? |
| [15:55:38] | Josh__: | it's apparently not available on the repos I'm running. |
| [15:56:50] | new2linx: | can someone tell me how to query the database so I can see what the actual filename is of a certain recording? I want to just watch the show from my windows box without having to set up a mythfrontend on the windows box. I have tried mythrename.pl but it's erroring out, i have asked for help regarding that but no one suggested anything. |
| [15:57:14] | new2linx: | the shows name is white collar |
| [15:57:42] | Josh__: | new2linx, select basename from recorded where title = "White Collar"; |
| [15:57:51] | new2linx: | thanks, will try |
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| [16:00:45] | new2linx: | Josh__, HUH??? it shows me 3 different recordings, is there also a way to show white collar from a certain date? 11-13–09? |
| [16:01:04] | Josh__: | new2linx, you can sort them by date, but dont know the syntax offhand. |
| [16:01:15] | Josh__: | just do this: |
| [16:01:17] | iamlindoro: | no |
| [16:01:18] | iamlindoro: | no |
| [16:01:18] | iamlindoro: | no |
| [16:01:19] | iamlindoro: | no |
| [16:01:19] | iamlindoro: | no |
| [16:01:19] | iamlindoro: | no |
| [16:01:21] | iamlindoro: | no |
| [16:01:22] | iamlindoro: | no |
| [16:01:24] | iamlindoro: | ffs |
| [16:01:33] | clever: | select starttime,basename from recorded where title = "White Collar" order by starttime; |
| [16:01:36] | clever: | :P |
| [16:01:38] | iamlindoro: | new2linx, Just highlight the record in "watch recordings" and press "U" |
| [16:02:02] | new2linx: | Josh__ that was it. thanks so much! |
| [16:02:03] | iamlindoro: | That will show you the program details. You can toggle between the two views by pressing "I". It shows the filename there |
| [16:02:18] | dustybin: | iamlindoro: do you use the mythmusic plugin? |
| [16:02:19] | Josh__: | new2linx, iamlindoro's method is better, I wasnt aware of that. |
| [16:02:28] | new2linx: | iamlindoro, sorry, as i said I want to watch the show from a windows box and I don't want to have to install a frontend. thanks anyway |
| [16:02:59] | new2linx: | iamlindoro, oh sorry, I didn't realize you were getting to that. I wasn't aware of that. thanks a lot |
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| [16:03:55] | new2linx: | Josh__ that way would be better but this way I can putty into backend, run the query without having to go to master backend and run mythfrontend just to get the same info I can get from the command line from the windows box |
| [16:04:18] | Josh__: | new2linx, just be DAMN careful mucking around the database. |
| [16:05:07] | new2linx: | Josh__, query's aren't going to hurt anything I would suspect |
| [16:05:08] | clever: | id go into the mysql admin and create a 2nd username with read-only perms |
| [16:05:17] | clever: | so you cant screw up the db |
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| [16:08:20] | new2linx: | any ideas what would cause my pvr-500 to start recording really grainy when it was fine about a week ago? running ubuntu 9.04 with kernel 2.6.28-15-generic with mythtv 0.21.0+fixes21768–0ubuntu0+mythbuntu3 |
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| [16:15:10] | dustybin: | England v Brazil is about to start ITV :D |
| [16:16:28] | dustybin: | football looks nice and smooth, greedy highmotion 2 is doing a good job :D |
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| [16:18:27] | iamlindoro: | oh wiki |
| [16:18:36] | iamlindoro: | "0.22 introduces the concept of storage groups. " |
| [16:18:39] | iamlindoro: | no |
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| [16:44:22] | oobe: | anyone know a good guide for mythweb on slackware |
| [16:44:33] | oobe: | i am not doing to great with it |
| [16:47:42] | Makere: | hmm myth is eating lots of cpu time |
| [16:50:31] | Makere: | /usr/bin/mythcommflag -j 417 -V 3 safe to kill this process? |
| [16:50:49] | Makere: | I have more than 2 of them running |
| [16:50:54] | Makere: | and they're killing my cpu |
| [16:51:03] | GreyFoxx: | Depends on if you want comfladding on those shows or not |
| [16:51:08] | GreyFoxx: | comflagging |
| [16:51:13] | Makere: | what's that? |
| [16:51:15] | GreyFoxx: | if you don't kill them and disable it |
| [16:51:18] | GreyFoxx: | comercial flagging |
| [16:51:22] | Makere: | ah |
| [16:51:29] | Makere: | bleh |
| [16:51:41] | GreyFoxx: | You can set nice levels for them I think |
| [16:51:48] | GreyFoxx: | or just kill and disable it |
| [16:52:09] | Makere: | I'll disable it |
| [16:52:12] | Makere: | never use it anyways |
| [16:52:43] | Makere: | remember where I can disable it from? |
| [16:52:51] | Makere: | somewhere in settings... but where |
| [16:53:44] | wagnerrp: | new2linx: if you want to watch recordings from windows, you have several options |
| [16:54:04] | wagnerrp: | 1) build a copy of the windows frontend, or otherwise download someone else's binary |
| [16:54:23] | wagnerrp: | 2) use a UPNP client, WMP on vista or better serves as one |
| [16:54:32] | wagnerrp: | 3) stream the recordings through mythweb |
| [16:55:00] | wagnerrp: | 4) use mythrename.pl to link the files to another directory with sensible names, which you share over samba |
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| [16:57:29] | wagnerrp: | 5) just understand how the files are named.... <tuner><channel>_<start time in YYYYMMDDHHmmss>.mpg |
| [16:57:31] | Makere: | alright |
| [16:57:58] | Makere: | is there a MPD client addon for mythfrontend |
| [16:58:07] | wagnerrp: | mpd? |
| [16:58:27] | Makere: | Music Player Daemon or something like that |
| [16:58:43] | wagnerrp: | there is mythmusic |
| [16:59:04] | wagnerrp: | or does MPD speak some specific network streaming protocol? |
| [16:59:08] | Makere: | there seems to be mythmpd |
| [16:59:22] | clever: | wagnerrp: mpd is a daemon that plays music and takes commands over telnet |
| [16:59:31] | Makere: | MPD just has multiple clients and is widely supported |
| [17:00:03] | Makere: | project is mothballed meh |
| [17:00:05] | wagnerrp: | mythfrontend itself takes commands over telnet |
| [17:00:29] | clever: | but the actual commands are different, so it wouldnt exactly be a drop in replacement |
| [17:00:41] | wagnerrp: | but in this case, its functionality is really limited to arrow and number keys |
| [17:00:59] | wagnerrp: | you cant grab a list of files, or select something to play |
| [17:01:09] | clever: | wagnerrp: you can for recordings |
| [17:01:11] | wagnerrp: | its more a replacement for a remote control |
| [17:01:19] | wagnerrp: | recordings and videos, yes... music, i dont think so |
| [17:01:32] | Makere: | and when I want to play music and watch music at the same time |
| [17:01:38] | Makere: | meh |
| [17:01:39] | clever: | ueah, i basicaly just use it for replacing the remote |
| [17:01:44] | Makere: | MPD is just great |
| [17:02:04] | Makere: | an addon for mythfrontend to support it would be nice |
| [17:02:13] | Makere: | so I could control it from mythfront end |
| [17:02:36] | Makere: | but it's not really something I need too much |
| [17:02:41] | Makere: | would be just nice add |
| [17:03:12] | iamlindoro: | patches/new plugins welcome |
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| [17:07:35] | leoncamel: | hey, is there anybody use friio ? |
| [17:09:30] | wagnerrp: | so did mikec upgrade from several versions back? |
| [17:09:47] | iamlindoro: | guess so |
| [17:12:52] | mangus580: | wagnerrp: got my remote and lirc working finally :-) |
| [17:13:36] | leoncamel: | is there anybody live in Japan ? |
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| [17:16:21] | darkfrog: | I just installed Ubuntu 9.10 and installed MythTV. Everything works fine except when I try to launch mythvideo it segfaults and the frontend dies...is this a known bug? |
| [17:16:34] | defaultro: | mangus, what remote are you using? |
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| [17:17:15] | mangus580: | its a UEI – Atlas... DVR-1056 |
| [17:17:20] | mangus580: | came with my cable boxes |
| [17:17:42] | jjwin2k: | My EIT-Scanner isnt working. :( Neither Readding nor reinstalling was of any help... |
| [17:17:43] | mangus580: | I have it all working except for 2–3 buttons (as my config file is for the DVR-1055 which has fewer buttons) |
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| [17:20:31] | mangus580: | do any of you guys use mythexport? |
| [17:20:56] | wagnerrp: | thats a mythbuntu thing, i wasnt even aware of it until a couple weeks ago |
| [17:21:23] | mangus580: | I am just trying to determine if it runs on the backend? or can it run on a frontend only machine? |
| [17:21:33] | mangus580: | (since i use fedora for my backend, but mythbuntu for my frontend) |
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| [17:22:48] | mersault: | thetvdb.com go down last night? |
| [17:23:51] | iamlindoro: | they are often slow/difficult to access on weekends. |
| [17:24:11] | mersault: | 100 packet loss on a 220 packet ping... |
| [17:24:17] | mersault: | er, 100% |
| [17:24:26] | iamlindoro: | SO? |
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| [17:24:32] | iamlindoro: | s/O/o/ |
| [17:25:36] | iamlindoro: | You should donate to them when they come back up. If enough people do so they will be able to afford better hosting/hardware |
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| [17:29:51] | gizmobay: | I'm using a blaster to change channels on my SA 3250 STB. The STB misses channels every so often. SHould I use Firewire? |
| [17:31:10] | ** defaultro is shocked to find out from #fedora that their Xorg doesn't use xorg.conf anymore. I'm so behind ** | |
| [17:34:31] | brad3: | hey iamlindoro, if you were to buy a new motherboard and cpu for a mythtv box, would you buy dual core or quad-core? |
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| [17:45:50] | defaultro: | dual core is enough brad |
| [17:46:00] | defaultro: | but what are you planning to use it for? |
| [17:46:14] | defaultro: | playback multiple hd, encoding |
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| [17:47:02] | Caliban: | Hmm, got a strange problem here. |
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| [17:47:40] | Caliban: | A 4 card machine that has run fine for more than 2 years has suddenly started producing silent recordings for everything recorded on card 1. |
| [17:48:20] | Caliban: | Logs contain messages like this: |
| [17:48:21] | Caliban: | 2009-10–31 23:10:06.787 NVP: Disabling Audio, params(-1,-1,-1) |
| [17:48:21] | Caliban: | 2009-10–31 23:10:06.788 NVP: Disabling Audio, params(0,-1,-1) |
| [17:48:28] | Caliban: | but those may be red herrings. |
| [17:48:39] | Caliban: | Cables checked and found to be good. |
| [17:48:52] | Caliban: | What would make a system start to do this? |
| [17:49:03] | Caliban: | No config changes have taken place, as far as I can tell. |
| [17:49:14] | Caliban: | I treat the box as an appliance and don't mess with settings. |
| [17:49:23] | Caliban: | As I say, it has worked for 2+ years. |
| [17:49:34] | Caliban: | What is the NVP referred to in that error message? |
| [17:53:15] | iamlindoro: | NuppelVideoPlayer |
| [17:54:21] | Caliban: | OK, thanks. I was wondering if it was NVidia <something>, so I can at least stop thinking about that now. |
| [17:55:03] | Caliban: | The 'Disabling Audio' message appears only after the recording finishes, which is what makes me think it may be a red herring. |
| [17:55:35] | Caliban: | OTOH, it appears at all only for recordings made with card 1, the card that now produces silent recordings. That makes me think that it is a clue. |
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| [17:56:15] | Caliban: | I just can't think of any card-specific config settings. |
| [17:56:41] | Caliban: | The box has 4 Hauppauge PVR cards. They all work the same way, but now one of them has stopped recording audio. |
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| [17:58:52] | wagnerrp: | how do you have a 220 ping if you have 100% packet loss? |
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| [17:59:21] | wagnerrp: | those are rather mutually exclusive |
| [18:00:02] | mersault: | wagnerrp: sorry if I was unclear, I was without coffee. 220 packets sent, 0 returned, 100% packet loss. |
| [18:00:54] | wagnerrp: | anyway, theyve been down since yesterday evening |
| [18:03:49] | mersault: | that's unfortunate. is TMDB a different site/group? are they having the same difficulties? |
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| [18:26:50] | Phluid: | is ttvdb down? |
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| [18:27:40] | mersault: | Phluid: yes. |
| [18:27:54] | frego_: | no mirrors or anything? |
| [18:28:18] | mersault: | mirrors cost money, which I'm guessing the tvdb folks are struggling with. |
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| [18:28:28] | wagnerrp: | tmdb is a different person |
| [18:29:13] | wagnerrp: | tmdb's recent issues were for an upgrade |
| [18:29:22] | wagnerrp: | ttvdb's current issues are... unkown |
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| [18:35:32] | bsharitt: | Would MythTV be a good solution if I just want to play stored content on a file server and completely hide/disable any and all PVR functionality? |
| [18:36:53] | wagnerrp: | 0.22 much more so than 0.21, but you should probably consider something dedicated to non-recording playback, like xbmc or boxee |
| [18:37:02] | mersault: | that's kinda like buying an espresso machine so you can fill a cup with hot water to make tea. It'll work, but I suspect there's a better tool for the job. |
| [18:37:28] | bsharitt: | I've actually been playing with xbmc and boxee, but they are horribly unstable |
| [18:38:37] | wagnerrp: | are you trying to use some developmental alpha or something |
| [18:39:24] | bsharitt: | well boxee is only an alpha, and I've been using for a long time with many issues. Sure they'll fix one issue, but others always pop up |
| [18:40:06] | mersault: | I've generally heard good things about xbmc. never used it though. |
| [18:40:31] | bsharitt: | just started playing with xbmc, and what ever version is in their Ubuntu PPAs, but it has been crash on several videos |
| [18:40:35] | mersault: | and boxee is kinda crippled in Canada, since lots of the streaming content doesn't work here. |
| [18:41:09] | wagnerrp: | video playback has gotten some much needed love in 0.22, but music and photos could use some work still |
| [18:41:57] | bsharitt: | Unfortunately music is something that needs help in everything, and it's one of the things I'd like most. |
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| [18:42:38] | wagnerrp: | music playback works fine, but its not particularly pretty |
| [18:42:41] | bsharitt: | Maybe I'll start working my way through some of the regressions introduced in Moovida since the change from Elisa |
| [18:43:05] | bsharitt: | that's the thing, I want a really nice interface, they all work, but suck to use |
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| [19:04:35] | justinh: | mersault: I only hear good things about xbmc but have yet to see it successfully play a video on any box I've tried it on – other than the original xbox build I mean |
| [19:05:23] | justinh: | it's also kinda slow on my intel based laptop, windows or linux |
| [19:05:58] | justinh: | so I guess YMMV :) |
| [19:08:25] | sphery: | Maybe that's why they don't call it XBMP |
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| [19:12:08] | bsharitt: | I'm using an old laptop with intel graphics too. xbmc plays some files, but not others. |
| [19:12:32] | bsharitt: | The frustrating part is that there seems to be no pattern to what it will an won't play. |
| [19:13:19] | sphery: | I'm sure it works fine as long as you get your videos from the right sources. |
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| [19:15:24] | Dagmar: | ...and when one researches |
| [19:16:10] | justinh: | meh, I tried all options available & couldn't seem to find the ' just sit there hogging CPU until you kill it' tickbox to uncheck |
| [19:16:39] | sphery: | heh, according to some users, Myth needs one of those, now |
| [19:21:43] | mtnbkr: | can anyone help with a "ram minimyth" problem? Just upgraded to 0.22 backend and ram-minimyth install... atftpd logs clearly my diskless station is requesting the correct minimyth.conf file. but the /var/log/messages on the diskless client shoes things like "MM_THEME_NAME='' is not valid." and " 'TCode' (or 'MM_DHCP_TCODE') not configured." when they clearly are inthe config file. any ideas? |
| [19:21:46] | justinh: | definitely needs something to stop people launching boxee or xbmc from a menu item :D |
| [19:22:18] | justinh: | mtnbkr: look on their forum. I got pig sick of config file stuff changing every release |
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| [19:22:38] | wagnerrp: | 'ram minimyth'? |
| [19:22:48] | wagnerrp: | is that someones separate fork of minimyth? |
| [19:22:49] | justinh: | wagnerrp: yeah PXE booted myth distro |
| [19:22:51] | mtnbkr: | justinh: yeah, but these options are the same... |
| [19:22:57] | justinh: | wagnerrp: no just minimyth |
| [19:23:00] | mtnbkr: | wagnerrp: PXE boot minimyth |
| [19:23:01] | wagnerrp: | ive heard of minimyth, but not 'ram' |
| [19:23:24] | justinh: | ram minimyth is the one which uncompresses itself into ram |
| [19:23:33] | mtnbkr: | wagnerrp: mounts / in ram disk I think rather than NFS or local hd |
| [19:23:33] | wagnerrp: | ah |
| [19:23:40] | justinh: | there's also an nfs image, and one for local booting :) |
| [19:23:53] | mtnbkr: | it works really great when I am nt breaking it. lol |
| [19:24:09] | wagnerrp: | sounds like it would need an excessive amount of memory |
| [19:24:24] | justinh: | wagnerrp: nah. the image is pretty small even uncompressed |
| [19:24:26] | mtnbkr: | justinh: I am "searching" in their forums and unfortunately finding nothing... :( |
| [19:24:44] | mtnbkr: | justinh: I htink my two clients are mini-atcx with 512M ram |
| [19:24:52] | mtnbkr: | arg mini-atx |
| [19:25:07] | justinh: | it used to be about 128MB compressed |
| [19:25:07] | sphery: | wonder if the logo for the distro is a sheep |
| [19:25:16] | wagnerrp: | really, i figured a 1GB box would be a lower limit, maybe 768 at a bare minimum |
| [19:25:32] | justinh: | wagnerrp: depends on the theme, resolution etc :) |
| [19:25:49] | justinh: | blootube-wide was great on my minimyth box at 720x576 |
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| [19:26:05] | justinh: | with 1GB RAM |
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| [19:26:22] | wagnerrp: | i guess you just cant use any theme thats going to dump a bunch of png fanart into the theme cache |
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| [19:26:47] | iamlindoro: | Which is to say "any theme that isn't actually default" |
| [19:27:36] | justinh: | I never managed to get my head around the instructions to make nfs booting of it work |
| [19:27:44] | justinh: | the config file is like WHUT |
| [19:27:50] | sphery: | well, no theme will dump fanart into theme cache if you don't download fanart |
| [19:28:11] | iamlindoro: | There's one of the things I forsee people bitching about in .23 |
| [19:28:23] | iamlindoro: | "I can't make it not download all the images!" |
| [19:28:29] | wagnerrp: | well that would require editing the grabber scripts, unless you want no metadata at al |
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| [19:28:35] | justinh: | iamlindoro: really? |
| [19:28:45] | justinh: | I'd rather have the option, personally |
| [19:28:54] | iamlindoro: | you do have an option |
| [19:28:58] | iamlindoro: | to upgrade, or not to |
| [19:29:06] | justinh: | that's nasty IMHO |
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| [19:29:19] | iamlindoro: | alas |
| [19:29:45] | iamlindoro: | Someone can fork the grabber and write the "light" version that only pulls in data |
| [19:29:52] | mtnbkr: | justinh: yeah, it's a bitch, but it is the coolest thing to show geek friends when they stop by! lol |
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| [19:31:17] | iamlindoro: | Would take all of 15 seconds of editing of the script |
| [19:33:15] | wagnerrp: | i should probably put something into my shutdown script to dump the contents of ~/.mythtv/themecache onto my overlay, for when i update the boot images |
| [19:33:38] | wagnerrp: | prevent having to regenerate that stuff |
| [19:34:31] | justinh: | that is seriously going to cause complaints aplenty |
| [19:34:48] | iamlindoro: | justinh, It's *exactly* the same as in .22... and .21... |
| [19:34:50] | wagnerrp: | when did the image for setup --> appearance get auto-generated from the installed themes? |
| [19:34:50] | iamlindoro: | etc. |
| [19:35:04] | iamlindoro: | justinh, They're just going to *realize* it now |
| [19:35:12] | justinh: | oh so the mythvideo code itself isn't gonna do it. ahh |
| [19:35:36] | iamlindoro: | MythVideo has always fallen back to a default script command if one wasn't in the field |
| [19:35:59] | iamlindoro: | thus you could clear the field and it would still run the default hardcoded script command in its place |
| [19:36:03] | justinh: | heh |
| [19:36:13] | mtnbkr: | justinh: when I telnet into the box, the file it is tftping (conf/myth1/minimyth.conf) actually lives in /etc/minimyth.d/minimyth.conf on the box so it appears that it is inot parsing it and applying the overrides. At least I have a good forum post now :) |
| [19:36:36] | iamlindoro: | It's just that since the command line fields have now all gone away, someone if going to put 2 and 2 together and go "But now I can't prevent image downloads!" (Even though they never could) |
| [19:36:42] | wagnerrp: | telnet? its running telnet instead of ssh? |
| [19:36:52] | justinh: | wagnerrp: on a local network why not? |
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| [19:37:34] | wagnerrp: | well you either no longer have the option of using it externally, or you carry around two daemons |
| [19:37:35] | mtnbkr: | wagnerrp:yeah in this case I could really care less. I am usually FAR more concerned about security though :) |
| [19:38:08] | iamlindoro: | s/could/couldn't/ |
| [19:38:10] | wagnerrp: | you could care less? |
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| [19:38:17] | iamlindoro: | drives me crazy, that one |
| [19:38:29] | wagnerrp: | beat me too it |
| [19:38:30] | justinh: | if you could care less, try harder :) |
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| [19:39:22] | wagnerrp: | oh crap |
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| [19:39:59] | wagnerrp: | i added a key to my ~/.ssh/authorized_keys yesterday |
| [19:40:07] | wagnerrp: | i just realized i used '>' instead of '>>' |
| [19:40:36] | iamlindoro: | youch |
| [19:41:04] | Dagmar: | So then you didn't really "add" so much as "roflstomped" then |
| [19:41:18] | wagnerrp: | pretty much |
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| [19:41:36] | wagnerrp: | i was wondering why i kept getting 'key refused' when trying to log on |
| [19:41:38] | Dagmar: | Yep, well, welcome to why I open things in vim and use :r |
| [19:41:49] | Dagmar: | I've blown away keys too many times |
| [19:42:18] | wagnerrp: | hold on... i think i have my home directory snapshotted |
| [19:42:49] | justinh: | read that as slashdotted there. lol |
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| [19:43:50] | wagnerrp: | nope |
| [19:44:14] | wagnerrp: | i *should* have it snapshotted... but the script i had doing that for various directories wasnt doing that one properly, and i hadnt gotten around to fixing it |
| [19:44:30] | wagnerrp: | horray for doing things in a timely manner |
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| [20:05:22] | wagnerrp: | iamlindoro: when youre scanning for metadata, and you return with multiple entries, is that popup completely theme controlled? |
| [20:05:57] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp, yeah... it's just a buttonlist, but it's themed |
| [20:06:42] | wagnerrp: | just ran into a problem with 'Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles' |
| [20:06:50] | iamlindoro: | ? |
| [20:06:51] | wagnerrp: | where 1, 2, and 3 were all off the edge of the box |
| [20:06:59] | iamlindoro: | ah, yeah, that's up to the theme |
| [20:07:00] | wagnerrp: | so there was no way to choose |
| [20:07:15] | iamlindoro: | There will always be some film that goes off the end of the button |
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| [20:07:44] | wagnerrp: | any capability in a buttonlist to scroll the text? |
| [20:07:55] | iamlindoro: | not yet, to |
| [20:07:59] | iamlindoro: | er s/to/no/ |
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| [20:08:36] | wagnerrp: | ok, so just put up, mod the theme to make it larger, or manually find the id.... sounds good |
| [20:08:44] | wagnerrp: | thanks |
| [20:09:35] | iamlindoro: | no problem |
| [20:10:40] | sphing: | is anyone running .22 with an hdhomerun? |
| [20:10:46] | wagnerrp: | yes |
| [20:11:15] | sphing: | I guess you're not seeing socket errors when you try to use the tuners then? |
| [20:11:57] | sphing: | http://pastebin.ca/1671447 |
| [20:12:07] | wagnerrp: | socket errors? no... i did notice some erratic behavior a couple days ago where it was dropping data, and mythtv was only receiving partial streams, but i think a power cycle fixed that |
| [20:12:18] | justinh: | I've been tempted to make popup boxes much wider |
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| [20:13:01] | wagnerrp: | sphery: thats mythsocket, communication between a master and slave, or a frontend |
| [20:13:06] | wagnerrp: | nothing to do with the HDHR |
| [20:13:16] | sphing: | right.. but I only see that when I begin to open a stream |
| [20:13:38] | iamlindoro: | justinh, I've done so in Arclight also |
| [20:13:53] | iamlindoro: | but even there there are still extremely long films that are too long-- and always will be |
| [20:13:57] | oobe: | finally got everything working in slackware |
| [20:17:17] | croppa_ is now known as croppa | |
| [20:18:31] | justinh: | hmmm I really like this Screen typeface :) |
| [20:18:40] | justinh: | need to find something like it for non silly money |
| [20:18:51] | iamlindoro: | justinh, which? |
| [20:19:05] | justinh: | Screen :) |
| [20:19:16] | justinh: | http://opentype.org/ProductsServices/tv_fonts.aspx |
| [20:19:46] | iamlindoro: | ah |
| [20:21:35] | jjwin2k: | Does anyone have a 0.22 Setup with a working EIT-Scanner? |
| [20:22:00] | justinh: | ugh. FFS open font library stuff sucks as hard as the open clipart library |
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| [20:40:40] | despo: | stupid question... |
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| [20:41:21] | despo: | How do i downgrade my 9.10 mythubuntu to kernel 2.6.28 ?? |
| [20:41:34] | [R]: | you don't |
| [20:41:47] | despo: | :) not possible? |
| [20:42:19] | jjwin2k: | despo: build from vanilla? |
| [20:42:35] | despo: | i have got some troubles with my dvbloopback... Won't compile in 2.6.31. |
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| [20:43:59] | despo: | jj: instructions anywhere? |
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| [20:46:15] | jjwin2k: | despo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild |
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| [20:47:48] | despo: | thanks! |
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| [20:51:31] | brad3: | hey guys, is putting a quad-core processer in a myth box useful? Or should i just stick with dual core? |
| [20:52:18] | [R]: | brad3: what is the box doing |
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| [20:53:16] | wagnerrp: | brad3: do you intend to do a lot of transcoding? do you intend to play bluray? |
| [20:53:28] | wagnerrp: | aside from those two, no real reason to have a quad core |
| [20:53:44] | brad3: | hmmmm, shows how much i know, i didn't even think blu-ray was possible in linux! |
| [20:53:57] | brad3: | i could do a bit of transcoding though |
| [20:54:04] | brad3: | quad core makes a big diff in that? |
| [20:54:09] | wagnerrp: | bluray directly? no... but you can rip them in windows, and play the m2ts files in linux |
| [20:54:37] | wagnerrp: | if you want to do multiple simultaneous transcodes, or want to transcode to a format that supports multithreaded encoding |
| [20:55:50] | brad3: | do alot of formats support multithreaded encoding? |
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| [20:57:07] | wagnerrp: | divx with the official encoders can, but those dont exist in linux |
| [20:57:19] | wagnerrp: | aside from that, just h264 and vc1 |
| [20:57:39] | brad3: | thanks |
| [20:57:50] | brad3: | my other question is, the new system i am thinking, likely won't have a cd drive |
| [20:57:57] | brad3: | is it difficult to load linux off a usb key? |
| [20:58:06] | wagnerrp: | depends on the distro |
| [20:58:08] | brad3: | sorry, i know a bit off topic :) |
| [20:58:16] | brad3: | i was thinking fedora 11 |
| [20:58:31] | wagnerrp: | boot from a USB? or install from a USB? |
| [20:58:47] | brad3: | i suppose either would do the trick |
| [20:58:56] | brad3: | i just want to get around needing a cd drive one time |
| [20:59:36] | mchou: | brad3: boot of usb key is no problem |
| [20:59:59] | wagnerrp: | most motherboards built in the last several years can boot off USB |
| [21:00:04] | brad3: | so you boot off the usb, and then install over the internet? |
| [21:00:09] | mchou: | brad3: as long as your bios supports it |
| [21:00:30] | wagnerrp: | its just a matter of how easy it is for the distro |
| [21:00:37] | mchou: | brad3: that's what hybrid iso are supposed to to |
| [21:00:48] | brad3: | thanks i will check it out |
| [21:04:52] | brad3: | okay, looks like i'm going to buy this mobo: EVGA nForce 730i Motherboard – NVIDIA GeForce 9300 MCP anyone have any last minute thoughts on it before i pull the trigger? ;) |
| [21:08:06] | grung0r: | so, I have a very strange problem. it appears that my mythtv box is incapable of deleting recordings. they do not auto-expire, nor can I delete them manually via the frontend, or even mythweb. the only way I can delete them is is via ftp. any ideas? |
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| [21:09:53] | oobe: | grung0r, chown -R mythtv:mythtv /path/to/recs |
| [21:10:15] | oobe: | or ls -lt first to check |
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| [21:13:26] | grung0r: | what exactly will that do? :) |
| [21:14:00] | laga: | grung0r: man chown |
| [21:14:02] | wagnerrp: | grung0r: make sure the mythtv user actually owns its recordings |
| [21:14:09] | wagnerrp: | thats the only reason why you would be incapable of deleting them |
| [21:14:11] | grung0r: | right. ok |
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| [21:30:44] | Josh__: | hey, mythfilldatabase segfault! |
| [21:31:23] | Josh__: | http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/1671520 |
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| [22:30:36] | Josh__: | Weird. |
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| [22:32:03] | Josh__: | I can get playback when I access my PVR-150 manually, but mythbackend reports: Not ivtv or pvrusb2 or hdpvr driver |
| [22:32:42] | wagnerrp: | you have it the correct device? |
| [22:32:54] | wagnerrp: | its not mistakingly using the one from a V4L card, or a webcam? |
| [22:32:54] | Josh__: | wagnerrp, yep, just doublechecked it. |
| [22:33:02] | Josh__: | No webcam on this box. |
| [22:33:12] | Josh__: | Just a HVR=1600 and a PVR-150 |
| [22:33:45] | wagnerrp: | dmesg reports no problems with the driver loading? |
| [22:33:51] | Josh__: | I checked with a v4l2-ctl -ITD -d /dev/video0 |
| [22:34:03] | Josh__: | um.... |
| [22:34:08] | Josh__: | None that I can see. |
| [22:34:15] | Josh__: | dmesg | grep ivtv |
| [22:34:26] | wagnerrp: | well theres more than just 'ivtv' |
| [22:34:44] | wagnerrp: | but if you can control the device, and catting the dev node gives proper video... that should be it |
| [22:34:49] | Josh__: | yep |
| [22:35:07] | Josh__: | Hmm, really? Is it that simple? |
| [22:35:19] | Josh__: | I specified a channel-changing script in mythtv-setup for that card, but none was present. |
| [22:35:35] | Josh__: | 2009-11–14 16:12:05.252 TVRec(5) Error: Failed to set channel to 2. Reverting to kState_None |
| [22:35:35] | Josh__: | 2009-11–14 16:12:05.253 TVRec(5): Changing from Watching WatchingLiveTV to None |
| [22:35:36] | wagnerrp: | youre using an STB with analog capture? |
| [22:35:42] | Josh__: | wagnerrp, correct. |
| [22:35:55] | Josh__: | I just hadn't copied the script over to /usr/local/bin |
| [22:36:16] | Josh__: | let me touch and chmod a+x a filename where myth is expecting one |
| [22:36:17] | Josh__: | and try. |
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| [22:38:47] | Thelasko: | Hi, Everybody! |
| [22:38:54] | Thelasko: | Okay, so I have "enable network remote control interface" checked, but I still can't control the front end with mythweb. |
| [22:39:41] | Thelasko: | What port am I supposed to use? |
| [22:39:53] | Josh__: | I hate people that dont read.. |
| [22:40:10] | Josh__: | Thelasko, there was a port option available in the SAME PAGE you set that network remote control option. |
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| [22:40:41] | Thelasko: | Josh_ Yeah, it's right here in front of me |
| [22:40:47] | Thelasko: | but what is it supposed to be? |
| [22:41:18] | Josh__: | Most people use 6546, which should be the default. |
| [22:41:34] | Thelasko: | I show 6544 here |
| [22:41:39] | Thelasko: | I'll try that, thanks |
| [22:43:08] | Josh__: | wagnerrp, omg, it was that simple... |
| [22:43:24] | Josh__: | put a blank executable file where myth was expecting to find one, and it works. |
| [22:43:45] | Thelasko: | That fixed it, thanks Josh_ |
| [22:43:49] | wagnerrp: | well it should have complained about a lack of channel change script, not a bad driver... |
| [22:43:53] | Josh__: | thefRont, no prob. |
| [22:44:20] | Josh__: | wagnerrp, it was close, and I had switched from my 1600 to the 150, it could have been complaining about the 1600 not being an ivtv driver (which its not) |
| [22:44:51] | Josh__: | now I need to mount this old system drive... I neglected to back up my scripts/remote data. |
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| [23:33:01] | Widget: | hi all |
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| [23:33:37] | Widget: | anyone else had 0.22 fail to work with their dvb-s cards? I get diseqc problems when I try to upgrade |
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