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| [00:01:05] | Davide-buntu: | hmm ok |
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| [00:06:02] | wagnerrp: | Dagmar: to be honest, i didnt think anything of that scene |
| [00:06:12] | wagnerrp: | since wallabies on the loose dont seem to be that uncommon around here |
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| [00:06:43] | wagnerrp: | ive found articles about three that have gotten loose in the area in the last couple years |
| [00:06:54] | wagnerrp: | one was just a couple miles from my house |
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| [00:15:23] | Dagmar: | wagnerrp: This is the US. If you see a kanga, it escaped from a zoo or you're in LA. |
| [00:16:45] | Dagmar: | In other news, even light hail stings like a *bitch* through a t-shirt |
| [00:16:45] | Gumby`: | kangaroos can be pretty scary up close |
| [00:16:57] | Dagmar: | Gumby`: They'll kick yer butt |
| [00:16:57] | Gumby`: | you dont want to fsck with a kangaroo |
| [00:17:02] | Dagmar: | I've seen videos |
| [00:18:02] | Gumby`: | I've been in a human/kangaroo common area somwewheres outside of...melbourne I think it was |
| [00:18:14] | Gumby`: | it was a bit unnerving feeding the large ones |
| [00:18:15] | Gumby`: | hehe |
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| [00:20:49] | Gumby`: | oh no, it was brisbane.. thats right |
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| [01:01:54] | Leebier: | if i do a freh install of myth and i've backed up my mythconverg but i do not keep my recorded programs, what kind of chaos would i have if i restore the database on my new install? |
| [01:01:59] | Leebier: | fresh install* |
| [01:03:22] | Dagmar: | It would probably be easier to just reconfigure it from scratch |
| [01:03:32] | Dagmar: | ...mainly because it takes like 10 minues |
| [01:03:34] | _ben: | it'd work |
| [01:03:56] | Dagmar: | You'd have to do something to make it realize all the recordings have expired, but that's not something I'm used to doing |
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| [01:15:30] | wagnerrp: | Dagmar: no, they escaped from someone's house, who had them as pets |
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| [02:23:50] | Led_Hed: | is there anything special I need to do to have a Slave Backend Wake for a recording? |
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| [02:42:03] | sphery: | Led_Hed: gotta run trunk--0.21-fixes can't wake it |
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| [02:58:32] | cesman: | oh?! |
| [02:58:43] | cesman: | sphery: trunk will wake a slave on demand? |
| [02:58:54] | ** cesman was going to write a script to do that ** | |
| [03:00:37] | sphery: | cesman: yeah, can use WOL for it |
| [03:00:44] | sphery: | will also shut them down when not in use |
| [03:03:39] | oobe: | does anyone know why /var/run/mythtv/mythbackend.pid oftend doesnt exist so when i use /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend restart or stop it doesnt work |
| [03:04:06] | oobe: | i can manually create the pid file then the script works |
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| [03:29:07] | [R]: | excellent... not running out of RAM anymore |
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| [03:32:06] | CyberKnet: | a little mythbuntu trouble installing :| |
| [03:32:20] | CyberKnet: | actually, technically it's Grub trouble. |
| [03:32:30] | ** [R] ponders why mythwelcome would be using more than 100mb of ram ** | |
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| [03:48:58] | sphery: | heh, TMS needs to take another look at the description they wrote for "Land of Doom": "A man (Deborah Rennard) and a woman (Garrick Dowhen) seek ..." |
| [03:50:20] | CyberKnet: | sphery: Are you a mythbuntu user? |
| [03:51:01] | sphery: | no, sorry |
| [03:51:16] | [R]: | CyberKnet: if you have a question just ask it |
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| [03:52:44] | CyberKnet: | [R]: Well... I did a default mythbuntu install ... told it to use the whole drive for the install, and away it went. Reboot and Grub gives me an Error 15 |
| [03:53:01] | CyberKnet: | looking at the partitions, it looks like /dev/sda1 is 12GB, and to my eye looks like / |
| [03:53:03] | [R]: | sounds like an ubuntu error, not a mythtv error |
| [03:53:29] | CyberKnet: | Yes, it is. |
| [03:53:57] | CyberKnet: | (that is, it is a mythbuntu error, not a mythtv error) |
| [03:54:28] | [R]: | no, its a 100% ubuntu error |
| [03:55:24] | CyberKnet: | ok... |
| [03:56:39] | sphery: | are you sure the root mapping is right in your /boot/grub/menu.lst |
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| [03:57:30] | sphery: | CyberKnet: what does it say for the root mapping? |
| [03:58:48] | CyberKnet: | I'm not much one for grub files, but it appears to be setting root=UUID=[guid here] |
| [03:58:58] | CyberKnet: | [guid here] looks like a guid, and is not the literal text |
| [03:59:29] | [R]: | grub errors hav nothing to do with root= |
| [03:59:48] | sphery: | grub error 15 is file not found |
| [04:00:09] | sphery: | so it could have a lot to do with wrong root mapping |
| [04:00:31] | CyberKnet: | I have the live cd in, and issued command 'root (hd0,0)' and then 'setup (hd0)' |
| [04:00:40] | sphery: | CyberKnet: I don't mean the root= in the kernel line |
| [04:00:48] | sphery: | CyberKnet: I mean the root (hd0,0) type thing |
| [04:00:56] | sphery: | which I'll bet says root (hd1,0) |
| [04:01:03] | CyberKnet: | sphery: oh |
| [04:02:04] | CyberKnet: | I don't see an uncommented line in menu.lst that contains that |
| [04:02:30] | sphery: | wanna pastebin your menu.lst? |
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| [04:02:53] | CyberKnet: | I can try |
| [04:03:18] | CyberKnet: | Hopefully net is up on the live cd :) |
| [04:04:27] | CyberKnet: | Yes, I believe I can ... 1 moment |
| [04:07:08] | CyberKnet: | http://pastebin.ca/1580974/ |
| [04:07:17] | CyberKnet: | I also included the output of sudo fdisk -l |
| [04:07:23] | CyberKnet: | so you could see the drive arrangement |
| [04:07:36] | CyberKnet: | I appreciate you guys help, thanks. |
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| [04:26:37] | sphery: | CyberKnet: can you do a: sudo vol_id /dev/sda1 |
| [04:26:43] | CyberKnet: | additionally, from the live cd after running grub and issuing 'find /boot/grub/stage1' it says (hd0,0) |
| [04:27:09] | CyberKnet: | for stage 2 it also says (hd0,0) |
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| [04:28:23] | CyberKnet: | trying |
| [04:29:40] | sphery: | specifically looking for ID_FS_UUID |
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| [04:30:14] | CyberKnet: | http://pastebin.ca/1580989/ |
| [04:30:20] | CyberKnet: | appended to the bottom |
| [04:31:37] | sphery: | hmmm... I don't know why it's not finding the files |
| [04:32:31] | CyberKnet: | I don't understand why it made the 12GB partition and the 308GB partition and then used 1.7GB of the 12Gb partition and only a few hundred mb of the 308GB partition |
| [04:32:48] | CyberKnet: | I thought maybe it was making the 308gb partition for / and the 12gb partition for /boot, but apparently not |
| [04:33:31] | CyberKnet: | the 308Gb it used for /var/lib ... weird |
| [04:33:47] | CyberKnet: | maybe a reinstall is the word, this time with me choosing the partitions instead of the installer |
| [04:33:51] | sphery: | I think mythbuntu puts its recordings in /var/lib/mythtv |
| [04:33:55] | sphery: | or something like that |
| [04:34:03] | CyberKnet: | oh, now that would make sense. |
| [04:34:04] | sphery: | 12gb is plenty for a root partition |
| [04:34:17] | sphery: | and you only need a tiny amount of space for the boot partition |
| [04:34:17] | CyberKnet: | I have /dev/sdb for the recordings. |
| [04:34:30] | CyberKnet: | it didn't create a boot partition though |
| [04:34:30] | sphery: | yeah, you can use both |
| [04:34:51] | sphery: | yeah, it seems to have used the same partition for boot and root |
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| [04:35:04] | CyberKnet: | could the size of that partition be causing trouble do you think? |
| [04:35:11] | CyberKnet: | i.e. boot files too far out on the disk |
| [04:35:11] | sphery: | which makes sense since few systems have bios hdd size issues, anymore |
| [04:35:21] | sphery: | probably not |
| [04:35:22] | CyberKnet: | hmmm... this is a pretty recent mb |
| [04:35:34] | sphery: | unless you're using a pentium 2 :) |
| [04:35:41] | sphery: | then it might have issues |
| [04:36:19] | CyberKnet: | nah, this is under a year old mb for athlon64 |
| [04:36:36] | CyberKnet: | I can't imagine what the problem is :| |
| [04:37:31] | CyberKnet: | I've always used fedora before |
| [04:38:38] | oobe: | does anyone know what is used in video-ui.xml to make it rotate thru the menu in gallery view rather than having to down down down you can just push up and it send's you straight to the bottom |
| [04:38:45] | oobe: | i dont know how to describe it well |
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| [04:42:52] | CyberKnet: | oobe: I understand what you are asking, but I do not have the answer sorry. |
| [04:43:04] | sphery: | CyberKnet: check out /boot/grub/device.map |
| [04:43:14] | sphery: | make sure that looks right |
| [04:43:52] | oobe: | iamlindoro would know his theme can do it but most dont seem to anymore in .22 |
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| [04:43:58] | oobe: | but he's not here |
| [04:44:09] | sphery: | oobe: probably something about wrap |
| [04:44:27] | oobe: | oh ok i was search for scroll |
| [04:44:56] | CyberKnet: | sperry: it is correct |
| [04:45:13] | CyberKnet: | sorry, too many r's there :) |
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| [04:45:46] | oobe: | i tried changing upscrollarrow and downscrollarrow to full |
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| [04:50:53] | mag0o: | oobe: <wrapstyle> i think |
| [04:51:33] | mag0o: | oobe: it's either that or <scrollstyle> check http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythUI_Theme_Development |
| [04:51:46] | oobe: | hmm changed <wrapstyle>items</wrapstyle> to <wrapstyle>selection</wrapstyle> but doesnt work |
| [04:52:04] | oobe: | ty mag0o |
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| [04:55:00] | mag0o: | oobe: <wrapstyle>selection</wrapstyle> works here as you described, at top of list, press up and i get to the bottom. at the bottom of the list, press down and get to the first item |
| [04:57:10] | mag0o: | actually that should be <wrapstyle>items</wrapstyle> – that lets me cycle around the list using one directional arrow as you described |
| [04:57:18] | ** mag0o is still learning themeing ** | |
| [04:57:34] | oobe: | hmm doesnt seem to work here |
| [04:57:40] | mag0o: | which theme? |
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| [05:02:02] | oobe: | do i need to reload the theme |
| [05:02:15] | oobe: | abstract-blue |
| [05:04:44] | oobe: | mine already was items before i started messing with it |
| [05:04:45] | mag0o: | if it's in base.xml or menu-ui.xml it needs to be reloaded |
| [05:04:46] | wagnerrp: | sphery: anything pre-64-bit (and a bit before that) may still have LBA-48 issues |
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| [05:05:21] | CyberKnet: | 64bit here |
| [05:05:28] | mag0o: | ah, the new theme, i dont have it here yet, so i can't load it up to test |
| [05:06:22] | CyberKnet: | Trying a reinstall to fix it with a different partition setup |
| [05:09:53] | mag0o: | oobe: it's wrapping around the main menu here, where are you trying to get it to wrap? |
| [05:10:16] | oobe: | in mythvideo gallery |
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| [05:10:31] | oobe: | like i have a large amount of files and folders etc. |
| [05:13:05] | mag0o: | after line 743 in video-ui.xml try adding <wrapstyle>items</wrapstyle> and see if that does the trick |
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| [05:15:03] | oobe: | mine is already edited a fair bit |
| [05:15:07] | oobe: | <textarea name="clock" from="base_clock"> |
| [05:15:07] | oobe: | <position>1065,0</position> |
| [05:15:07] | oobe: | </textarea> |
| [05:15:15] | oobe: | is the bottom of line 743 |
| [05:16:42] | mag0o: | below there a few lines, you'll find <buttonlist name="videos"> in that block stick the wrapstyle line below the <layout>grid</layout> line |
| [05:19:10] | oobe: | mag0o, yes that works thanks |
| [05:19:18] | mag0o: | yw |
| [05:20:19] | mag0o: | that only changed it for the gallery view in videos, so if you change views, you'll have an idea of where you need to go |
| [05:22:01] | oobe: | ok thanks this is all i need it think |
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| [05:32:21] | oobe: | hmm do you know how to change the number of folders displayed |
| [05:32:46] | oobe: | e.g 10 horizontal 5 vertical |
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| [05:32:56] | wagnerrp: | you used to be able to set that, but i think it is static now |
| [05:33:19] | mag0o: | depends on the area |
| [05:33:29] | mag0o: | i *think* |
| [05:33:55] | mag0o: | iirc, mythui tries to fill the available area as best as possible |
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| [05:37:04] | oobe: | it used to be ajustable in setup /utils / media settings / video settings in 21 |
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| [05:56:15] | oobe: | wagnerrp, some themes have different amount of rows? |
| [05:56:27] | iamlindoro: | set by the theme |
| [05:56:30] | wagnerrp: | oobe: yes |
| [05:57:00] | oobe: | iamlindoro, where abouts do i change it in the video-ui.xml |
| [05:57:16] | iamlindoro: | many places |
| [05:57:40] | iamlindoro: | # of rows/columns is determined by the buttonarea (total space allotted to buttons) and the area on the buttonitem |
| [05:58:03] | oobe: | thanks |
| [05:58:10] | iamlindoro: | ie if your buttonaread is 1000x200, and your buttons are 100x100, you'll have two rows of 10 |
| [05:58:26] | mag0o: | yay, i was right about that :) |
| [05:58:30] | iamlindoro: | (assuming you leave spacing at 0) |
| [05:59:48] | [R]: | anyone here use vdpau? |
| [06:03:11] | wagnerrp: | yes |
| [06:04:57] | ** wagnerrp goes back to fiddling with regexes ** | |
| [06:05:58] | [R]: | wagnerrp: does it hate you as much as it hates me? |
| [06:06:13] | wagnerrp: | seems to like me just fine |
| [06:06:42] | wagnerrp: | although ive been meaning to tweak the profile a bit |
| [06:07:42] | [R]: | i get preemptinos consstantly |
| [06:07:53] | [R]: | its not corrupt streams, cuz i can replay the same part just fine |
| [06:08:11] | [R]: | sometimes it preempts and frontend starts usin 99% and locks up my system |
| [06:10:02] | wagnerrp: | using trunk? using what driver revision? |
| [06:10:12] | [R]: | i've used 180, 185, and 190 |
| [06:10:15] | [R]: | yes trunk |
| [06:10:50] | [R]: | i saw a thread on the nvidia forum with someoen saying he noticed similar random occurences like that |
| [06:11:07] | wagnerrp: | i used to have those, they just seemed to go away at some point |
| [06:11:36] | wagnerrp: | well this is fantastic |
| [06:12:04] | wagnerrp: | in recorded and livetv, the frontend socket returns '<file> <frame> <rate>' |
| [06:12:17] | wagnerrp: | in mythvideo, it returns '<frame> <file> <rate>' |
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| [06:12:55] | [R]: | awesome |
| [06:12:57] | [R]: | :) |
| [06:14:50] | iamlindoro: | sounds like the kind of patch I'd happily apply in the name of consistency :) |
| [06:15:18] | wagnerrp: | ill have it up in a couple minutes |
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| [06:21:49] | wagnerrp: | seems it may take a bit to trace down |
| [06:22:22] | iamlindoro: | whenever, sounds like a fix to me |
| [06:23:33] | wagnerrp: | well the query gets routed through mythevent, and thats something i have read no code for |
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| [06:39:23] | wagnerrp: | it also doesnt list a file length (even though the player knows it) |
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| [06:42:25] | iamlindoro: | WTF? Who replies to a 3 year old invalid ticket? |
| [06:43:04] | mag0o: | haha Version: 0.19 |
| [06:43:08] | iamlindoro: | And does so only by quoting the original ticket text... |
| [06:43:48] | [R]: | someone that doesnt knw what they are doing |
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| [06:44:07] | iamlindoro: | goes without saying |
| [06:45:26] | wagnerrp: | maybe theyre using an old version of linuxmce |
| [06:45:33] | iamlindoro: | heh |
| [06:45:51] | [R]: | would 64bit help with h264 softwre decoding? |
| [06:45:59] | iamlindoro: | no |
| [06:46:43] | wagnerrp: | well... slightly |
| [06:46:56] | iamlindoro: | but probably not perceptibly |
| [06:47:10] | [R]: | so 64bit for myth doesnt really help thatm uch? |
| [06:47:11] | wagnerrp: | you will gain some boost due to the extra registers |
| [06:47:28] | wagnerrp: | but thats due to the architecture change, and not anything to do with being 64-bit |
| [06:47:45] | wagnerrp: | and yeah, its not likely to be more than a couple percent |
| [06:48:17] | DonAlex: | Uggg.. this is driving me nuts.. |
| [06:48:38] | DonAlex: | all of a sudden the backend is not contactable by any clients |
| [06:48:47] | [R]: | this guy says he can awtch 720p from an hdpvr on a 2.5ghz dual core amd... interesting |
| [06:49:07] | DonAlex: | It is running.. it is listening but the clients for some reason are trying to connect on port :0 |
| [06:49:10] | wagnerrp: | [R]: sure, hes probably only running ~8–10mbps at that resolution |
| [06:49:16] | iamlindoro: | the resolution is of little consequence-- the bitrate will make a much larger difference |
| [06:49:27] | [R]: | it says 4 actually |
| [06:49:37] | iamlindoro: | heh, four will look like poop |
| [06:49:40] | DonAlex: | 2009-09–27 07:15:20.391 QMulticastSocket: setsockopt – IP_ADD_MEMBERSHIP Error |
| [06:49:41] | DonAlex: | 2009-09–27 07:16:52.151 Connecting to backend server: 192.168.0.52:0 (try 1 of 5) |
| [06:49:41] | [R]: | HAHA |
| [06:49:52] | [R]: | http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=33910 |
| [06:49:57] | wagnerrp: | it will go down to... 1mbps? |
| [06:50:01] | DonAlex: | But the right backend server port is in settings so what gives? |
| [06:50:03] | [R]: | how would that core 2 do with an hpdvr? |
| [06:50:03] | iamlindoro: | wonder if I still have the per-megabit samples on my site |
| [06:50:16] | iamlindoro: | http://www.fecitfacta.com/hdpvr/ |
| [06:50:24] | DonAlex: | I can connect to the mysql db fine.. |
| [06:50:42] | wagnerrp: | the torrent samples were still up as of a few weeks ago |
| [06:50:57] | iamlindoro: | Think mine are a bit more granular |
| [06:51:09] | iamlindoro: | but I'd also rather the world not download every one of mine :) |
| [06:51:43] | wagnerrp: | yeah, the torrent ones were only 7, 10, and 13.5 |
| [06:51:51] | wagnerrp: | but they were also about 10x as large as yours |
| [06:52:11] | iamlindoro: | yeah, IMO a 30 second sample is enough to get a sense of what plays |
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| [06:53:25] | iamlindoro: | should all be 1080i in my samples so one can test deinterlace if so inclined |
| [06:55:28] | DonAlex: | Ok that is MIGHTY weird.. |
| [06:57:02] | DonAlex: | jsut trying mythbackend --clearcache and it is STILL trung to connect on port :0 not port 3306 |
| [06:57:14] | wagnerrp: | [R]: as a point of reference, my 2.7GHz Core2 using libavcodec (on Windows), is right at about peaked on one core |
| [06:57:42] | wagnerrp: | however it does seem perfectly playable, and no A/V sync issues |
| [06:57:48] | [R]: | wagnerrp: playing what kind of file? |
| [06:57:48] | wagnerrp: | on the 13.5mbps sample |
| [06:57:50] | [R]: | ah |
| [06:58:22] | [R]: | i forget who it was, maybe it was you... talking smack about an amd chip... is core 2 better than an amd? |
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| [06:58:43] | wagnerrp: | clock for clock, yes |
| [06:59:17] | [R]: | ok so if i'm going with software decoding, does nvidia vs intel for the gpu matter? |
| [07:00:02] | wagnerrp: | nvidia is preferred |
| [07:00:32] | wagnerrp: | but as long as you have a real intel gpu (and not the 3rd party GMA500), intel should work fine |
| [07:00:48] | [R]: | well i can always pull the pci express card from my desktop |
| [07:01:51] | DonAlex: | ok this is totally weird.. unless I set up mythbackend on the client with the right port the mythfrontend cannot connect?! |
| [07:02:10] | DonAlex: | how is that possible? the backend is not even running on the client |
| [07:02:18] | wagnerrp: | mythbackend does not need to run on a frontend |
| [07:02:34] | wagnerrp: | nor do you have to go through the backend setup |
| [07:02:57] | wagnerrp: | the only configuration mythfrontend needs is access to the database |
| [07:03:11] | wagnerrp: | it pulls everything else it needs to run from there |
| [07:03:33] | wagnerrp: | and can even auto-detect the backend to get the address of the database |
| [07:04:45] | DonAlex: | but for some bizarre reason the front ends are all trying to connect to the backend on backend:0 ? |
| [07:05:16] | wagnerrp: | did you set your master backend IP as a hostname rather than an IP? |
| [07:05:24] | DonAlex: | no |
| [07:05:39] | wagnerrp: | then why would it try to connect to 'backend' |
| [07:05:55] | wagnerrp: | unless are you saying it is trying to connect to the mysql server on 'backend:0' |
| [07:06:00] | DonAlex: | Oh I meant x.x.x.x:0 |
| [07:06:19] | DonAlex: | could be.. |
| [07:07:27] | DonAlex: | *blinks* |
| [07:07:28] | wagnerrp: | select * from settings where value='BackendServerPort'; |
| [07:07:33] | wagnerrp: | it should all be 6543 |
| [07:07:42] | DonAlex: | Da.. they are.. all the clients.. |
| [07:07:54] | DonAlex: | ok something weirtd is going on.. could this be uPNP related? |
| [07:07:57] | wagnerrp: | the clients do not have a backend server port |
| [07:08:20] | DonAlex: | now I set up the backend on the client with the right port all of a sudden the other clients can connect? |
| [07:08:27] | DonAlex: | da. I know that.. |
| [07:08:33] | iamlindoro: | You're not doing something like running mythtv-setup on each client, are you? |
| [07:08:51] | DonAlex: | Not on each client no.. just one extra client.. |
| [07:09:22] | DonAlex: | only one client has mythbackend in stalled.. and actually it is not even running atm |
| [07:09:39] | wagnerrp: | shut everything down, make sure 'masterserverip' is set properly, start the backend, start the clients |
| [07:11:01] | DonAlex: | Yeah.. Iam just wondering how it all got so horrible out of sync.. |
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| [07:11:26] | DonAlex: | mythweb stopped working too bizarre.. |
| [07:11:45] | DonAlex: | it is like something automatically re wrote some settings? |
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| [07:31:47] | Gumby: | Is there a good script that can be used with mythtv for downloading cover art for videos/movies? |
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| [08:01:33] | DonAlex: | Ok so.. that is all kinda sorted out... |
| [08:01:40] | DonAlex: | only now live TV is broken :( |
| [08:01:53] | DonAlex: | keep getting this error GetEntryAt(-1) failed. |
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| [10:02:48] | Drenyx: | Dagmar around lately ? |
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| [10:24:55] | jamieleshaw: | Hello, my myth tv won't go fullscreen how do i fix this |
| [10:29:03] | jamieleshaw: | that's in tv mode i mean |
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| [10:32:32] | pak0: | hi all people, good morning |
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| [10:36:41] | pak0: | when i can find only 3 channels is for my dvb-t driver? |
| [10:39:44] | Chaz6: | pak0, maybe the others are encrypted? |
| [10:42:48] | pak0: | no lol, i can watch before updater to karmic about 25 channels |
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| [10:43:24] | pak0: | just jumped to trunk version because on fixed my card seems to be one dvb-s for myth, but know its recognized but cant find more channels |
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| [10:44:54] | pak0: | and mythfill takes a very long time for only 3 channels |
| [10:45:02] | pak0: | im looking at logs |
| [10:45:14] | pak0: | because kaffeine can watch 25 channels =/ |
| [10:46:01] | Chaz6: | are those 3 channels out of the same 25 channels? |
| [10:47:03] | pak0: | nop |
| [10:47:22] | Chaz6: | Okay, then i guess make sure the adapter is not open by another app first before myth |
| [10:47:28] | pak0: | before update my myth 9.04 and jumped to 9.10 and trunk is the problem |
| [10:47:40] | pak0: | no, i have no more openning my card |
| [10:47:48] | pak0: | hmm, how can i tested? |
| [10:47:54] | pak0: | if its openend for anyhitng? |
| [10:49:14] | Chaz6: | I suppose if you can open it in kaffiene, then it is alright |
| [10:49:17] | Chaz6: | Sorry not sure what else to suggest |
| [10:49:22] | Chaz6: | check dmesg maybe when myth is running |
| [10:49:43] | pak0: | for open on kaffeine i have to stop mythbackend |
| [10:50:04] | pak0: | launch myth-setup on terminal? |
| [10:50:34] | pak0: | i try it all modes for scan, importing channels.conf, synt manual... synt all transpor |
| [10:50:42] | pak0: | i have my problem is with the transporder |
| [10:56:23] | pak0: | i tryed the opcion of search for new transports and ignore timeout w/o lucky |
| [10:59:31] | pak0: | my dvb-t have a one light when i plug the cable in, but now is off |
| [10:59:36] | pak0: | i think that is the problem |
| [11:01:07] | oobe: | anyone know how to make fonts bigger in recordings-ui.xml |
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| [11:05:49] | pak0: | i have to work |
| [11:05:53] | pak0: | bye people |
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| [12:49:05] | spoky99: | someone know how to modify o insert a frequency table for the scan? In mythbuntu 8.10 is missing italy table and... I don't found all the channel using the frequency table of other coutry |
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| [13:35:10] | wkerzend_: | I'm currently setting up a mythbuntu backend with 2 identical recording cards: I can setup the recording cards. but have trouble with scanning the channels and settinmg up xmltv. Do I have to scan for both cards or can I sanc for each one and then the other dvbt knows about it as well? |
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| [13:39:13] | styelz: | wkerzend_ i have 4, and scan on one works for all 4 for me. |
| [13:39:30] | styelz: | and they are all different models |
| [13:39:54] | styelz: | cards |
| [13:40:03] | wkerzend_: | styelz: so you scan and you dont do fetch from listingssource |
| [13:40:11] | wkerzend_: | styelz: mine are the same |
| [13:42:49] | styelz: | i setup a listing source and assign it to all cards. im using shepherd for xmltv guide, im in australia |
| [13:43:49] | wkerzend_: | styelz: me too normally but I'm setting this up for my parents in germany |
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| [15:16:38] | wkerzend_: | okay, I'm not quite clear on how these things work. Why do I need a video source(which seems a bad name as it seems more like the listings provider) to scan for channels on my dvbt cards? |
| [15:21:02] | RyeBrye: | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883103228 this wont work with vdpau will it? |
| [15:23:44] | mchou: | RyeBrye: what's the big hurry? wait for ion2 |
| [15:23:58] | RyeBrye: | Yeah, I'm not in any hurry |
| [15:24:08] | mchou: | RyeBrye: better cpu.... |
| [15:24:43] | mchou: | RyeBrye: Just get a WDTV for $99 and get it over with |
| [15:25:10] | mchou: | RyeBrye: less tweaking, more watching! |
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| [16:22:59] | mchou: | man, I'm surprised nobody in mythtv land has looked into Broadcom's crystal HD |
| [16:24:59] | mchou: | this could blow the whole nettop mythfrontend into something REAL right now |
| [16:25:27] | mchou: | no more messing with VDPAU |
| [16:25:38] | mchou: | might even work with ATI |
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| [16:29:52] | mchou: | broadcom is lame too. Only OEM sales apparently |
| [16:30:22] | mchou: | that looks like good HW too |
| [16:30:24] | AndyCap: | mchou: you should pay closer attention to the rumours in this channel |
| [16:30:38] | mchou: | screw this channel |
| [16:31:00] | mchou: | I get my infos now from xbmc channel :) |
| [16:31:07] | CyberKnet: | what is the recordedmarkup table for? just cutpoints? |
| [16:31:35] | mchou: | AndyCap: they are way more forward thing now |
| [16:31:41] | mchou: | thinking* |
| [16:31:52] | AndyCap: | well, then, screw you. |
| [16:34:45] | mchou: | AndyCap: show me links where such rumors are even discussed.... |
| [16:34:57] | janneg: | CyberKnet: cut points, commercial breaks, resolution changes .. |
| [16:35:39] | mchou: | AndyCap: cause I'm not having any lucking seeing it mentioned by any myth sources |
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| [16:39:57] | mchou: | AndyCap: seriously. I'm not joking. |
| [16:41:16] | olejl: | I have used my PC as a combined FE/BE. I recently bought a new computer to use as FE only. The problem is I can't connect to the BE. No Errors. Only this line on the BE every time I try to start the FE: MainServer, Warning: Unknown socket closing MythSocket(0x7f7c680dcaa0) |
| [16:41:56] | AndyCap: | mchou: well, looking at the logs you were even present in this very channel at the time. you figure it out. |
| [16:42:43] | mchou: | AndyCap: dude, stop horsing around. at least designate a search term |
| [16:42:58] | CyberKnet: | janneg: THanks. I thought commercial skip was stored in recordedseek? |
| [16:43:25] | mchou: | AndyCap: or a date (as in beirdo's mythtv log) |
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| [16:44:05] | ** CyberKnet looks at mchou and wonders what google is for :) ** | |
| [16:44:22] | ** CyberKnet realises his own questions could be answered that way too, and stops throwing stones :) ** | |
| [16:44:38] | mchou: | CyberKnet: dude, what makes you think I didn't check google? |
| [16:44:41] | CyberKnet: | heh |
| [16:44:54] | CyberKnet: | mchou: chill. I'm just horsing around. |
| [16:44:55] | AndyCap: | CyberKnet: don't worry, the glass house is broken a long time ago. |
| [16:45:24] | CyberKnet: | mchou: You're an intelligent person. Of course I assumed you had looked in google. |
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| [16:46:08] | CyberKnet: | anyways. I'm going to go back to idling. It's much less dangerous. |
| [16:47:32] | laga: | ah, always glad to have mchou on ignore :) |
| [16:50:27] | ** CyberKnet looks for laga's asbestos ** | |
| [16:50:44] | CyberKnet: | Anyone have a favorite easy way for triggering the upcoming recordings to be regenerated? |
| [16:51:16] | iamlindoro: | mythbackend --resched |
| [16:51:45] | CyberKnet: | while it is already running, or need to stop first? |
| [16:51:56] | iamlindoro: | while running |
| [16:52:02] | mchou: | CyberKnet: with lemmings like laga, it's no wonder Germany gave rise to Hitler |
| [16:52:45] | mchou: | CyberKnet: had he been around back in the day he would have claimed "I didn't know" |
| [16:53:53] | janneg: | CyberKnet: tables were splitted for performance reason 2–3 years ago. recordedseek is huge |
| [16:54:22] | CyberKnet: | janneg: Oh. It's been about that long since I looked at this particular aspect of Myth, so that makes sense. |
| [16:56:55] | CyberKnet: | I just reinstalled my backend and while I took a copy of the database, I'm wondering if it isn't a better idea to just have everything re-comm-skip instead of trying to move over recordedmarkup |
| [16:57:20] | CyberKnet: | I've already reimported the recordings from the old database |
| [16:57:25] | mchou: | CyberKnet: wth? |
| [16:57:40] | CyberKnet: | but I'm getting a unique key violation when trying to insert the old recordedmarkup data |
| [16:57:52] | CyberKnet: | mchou: tth |
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| [17:45:06] | mag0o: | ls |
| [17:45:10] | mag0o: | doh |
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| [18:02:09] | mag0o: | hmm, this just started happening today |
| [18:02:09] | mag0o: | http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/1581621 |
| [18:03:37] | mag0o: | and here's one from a diff recording source http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/1581624 |
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| [18:04:45] | mag0o_: | did my last 2 messages come through? |
| [18:05:09] | laga: | last one was 20:03 < mag0o> and here's one from a diff recording source http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/1581624 |
| [18:05:16] | mag0o_: | ok |
| [18:05:17] | mag0o_: | :) |
| [18:05:25] | [R]: | laga: you really should switch servers |
| [18:05:27] | mag0o_: | the recordings play for about 30 seconds then die with that |
| [18:05:30] | mag0o_: | i just did |
| [18:05:38] | [R]: | laga: is that a remote frontend? |
| [18:05:39] | mag0o_: | or at least did a /reconnect |
| [18:06:00] | [R]: | errr |
| [18:06:02] | [R]: | mag0o_: |
| [18:06:12] | mag0o_: | yes, a remote frontend, no nfs mounts |
| [18:06:13] | [R]: | mag0o_: and also, does it die in the same spot or different spot if you replay it? |
| [18:06:19] | [R]: | whats the network like? |
| [18:06:25] | [R]: | ethernet or wifi |
| [18:06:28] | mag0o_: | ethernet |
| [18:07:56] | mag0o_: | i'll run it twice and pastebin it for timestamp comparison |
| [18:08:48] | mag0o_: | hmm, starting over right after it does, the recording is playing |
| [18:08:59] | mag0o_: | right after it dies* |
| [18:09:59] | mag0o_: | there we go, it took considerably longer that time |
| [18:10:11] | mag0o_: | almost 2 minutes |
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| [18:11:04] | sphery: | mag0o_: time for a filesystem check? |
| [18:11:19] | sphery: | and or smartctl check |
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| [18:12:13] | mag0o_: | on the frontend or backend? |
| [18:13:21] | sphery: | actually, that error is only possible with a remote file |
| [18:13:24] | sphery: | so it would be the backend |
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| [18:13:51] | sphery: | but that means it could be network issues preventing the read as opposed to disk errors |
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| [18:14:24] | sphery: | does it happen to all recordings or just the one? |
| [18:14:41] | mag0o_: | all |
| [18:14:50] | sphery: | if all of them, might want to try NFS mounting the backend filesystem and see if it plays that way |
| [18:14:57] | mag0o_: | i would bet network b/c my router has been acting flaky lately |
| [18:15:14] | mag0o_: | in fact, i actually set up another b/c i felt like this was coming, so i'll swap them out to see |
| [18:15:17] | sphery: | I don't remember any recent changes to RemoteFile, though, |
| [18:15:23] | sphery: | ah... yeah, network could cause it |
| [18:15:32] | mag0o_: | bbiaf |
| [18:15:35] | sphery: | good luck |
| [18:15:38] | mzb: | change over the wet string you're using to connect your boxen ;) |
| [18:15:43] | sphery: | if that doesn't help, we'll need backend logs |
| [18:16:02] | sphery: | mzb: maybe the string just dried out and he needs to dip it in water again? |
| [18:17:29] | mzb: | yep, I reckon that would be an accurate diagnosis |
| [18:17:47] | mzb: | either that, or the string isn't _tight_ enough! |
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| [18:18:08] | mzb: | (plays havoc with the tin-can phone quality, too;) |
| [18:20:24] | mzb: | a micro-spray irrigation system might be overkill, though |
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| [18:23:21] | sphery: | heh |
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| [18:24:18] | wagnerrp: | wet string? i always thought you just used dry string |
| [18:25:48] | jblack: | wet string is usually used when crafting objects because it shrinks as it dries. |
| [18:26:15] | wagnerrp: | for string+tincan communication |
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| [18:27:04] | jblack: | so if he were running a permament stringcan installation, he'd build it with wet string, which would tighten upon drying and provide great accoustics. |
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| [18:27:22] | tim-: | anyone care to recommend a good tuner card? I will be using just HD OTA and would like to be able to record 1 show and watch another live at a minumum |
| [18:27:39] | jblack: | tim; hd5500 from pchdtv.com |
| [18:27:55] | jblack: | you'll want to buy two tuners for $100 each. |
| [18:28:13] | jblack: | you'll get anywhere from 2 to 4 recordings at the same time, depending upon how the stations are set up. |
| [18:28:22] | mzb: | *cackle* |
| [18:28:31] | wagnerrp: | those cards are rather pricey.... what kind of slots/ports do you have available? |
| [18:28:35] | mag0o_: | oh yeah, i set up this new router with a different ip scheme – everyone still has the same last octet, but went from 192.168.1 to 192.168.10 |
| [18:28:41] | mag0o_: | hmm, this'll be fun |
| [18:28:58] | mzb: | "wet string in a can" ... hmm |
| [18:29:02] | jblack: | They're open, and unlike most manufacturers, support linux. |
| [18:30:07] | tim-: | wagnerrp: well.. i am still specing out the backend system |
| [18:30:12] | ** mzb is more of a specialist with invisible string, but occasionally dips his toe in .... ** | |
| [18:30:14] | tim-: | so i can make whatever is needed available |
| [18:30:20] | mag0o_: | so, with an ip scheme change, what will be the best way to update that on the backend? trying to run mythtv-setup results in the system just trying to connect to the old ip |
| [18:30:20] | ** mzb thinks he'd better go to bed ** | |
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| [18:30:39] | tim-: | jblack: interesting.. so i can get multiple recordings out of each tuner? |
| [18:31:13] | wagnerrp: | if youve got PCIe slots, HVR-1250s are rather cheap for one tuner, the 2250 is a bit more than twice the price for two tuners (and has mpeg encoders if anyone writes the drivers for it) |
| [18:31:19] | wagnerrp: | tim-: its called 'multirec' |
| [18:31:21] | jblack: | sometimes. sometimes several channels are on the same frequency, or something like that. Myth can take advantage of it if the card can, which the hd-5500 does. |
| [18:31:33] | wagnerrp: | when you tune a digital channel, you get an mpeg2 transport stream |
| [18:31:40] | wagnerrp: | which may include multiple video and audio feeds |
| [18:32:06] | mag0o: | update settings set data = '192.168.10.5' where data = '192.168.0.5' and hostname = 'mythmaster' |
| [18:32:08] | wagnerrp: | multirec allows you to record more than one of those sets of streams out of the TS |
| [18:32:12] | mag0o: | will that get me going? |
| [18:32:37] | mag0o: | or is there a more graceful way |
| [18:32:41] | wagnerrp: | if you are lacking in expansion slots, the HDHR is a dual tuner usually found for $140, ethernet attached |
| [18:32:52] | sphery: | tim-: if you are in the US, then the chances of multirec being useful are small--unless you use cable, in which case, you may or may not even be able to record digital TV from there, depending on whether it's encrypted |
| [18:32:54] | wagnerrp: | also supported under linux by the manufacturer |
| [18:33:24] | tim-: | wagnerrp: makes sense sort of.. so would that only be the subchannels? ie. channel 10 from analog has 10.001, 10.002 etc or whatever they are? |
| [18:33:25] | jblack: | hrmm. multirec does me a bit of good here with OTA in notheastern PA |
| [18:33:28] | sphery: | tim-: if you have encrypted cable, you have to do analog encoding--meaning something like the PVR-150 or the HVR-1600 (analog side) or the HD-PVR (once 0.22 is released) |
| [18:33:47] | tim-: | sphery: this will be all ota |
| [18:33:58] | sphery: | tim-: exactly--can only record from 2 logical channels broadcast on the same frequency |
| [18:34:14] | sphery: | otherwise, you need multiple tuners for multiple recordings |
| [18:34:16] | jblack: | but they're corrupt out here. I think if you dig enough, all the channels are owned by 2 or 3 companies. |
| [18:34:50] | sphery: | jblack: does good for more than PBS or your stations actually have interesting things on subchannels? |
| [18:34:53] | tim-: | so it would be safe to assume that if i get 2 tuners, i can juts record 1 show and watch 1 live (or record 2) |
| [18:35:04] | jblack: | Here, WB CW and something else are all on the same freq. And all 4 pbs' are on the same freq too. |
| [18:35:18] | jblack: | WB CW and Fox, I think. |
| [18:35:48] | sphery: | jblack: here, the only subchannels I /ever/ record are our WMFE Encore (PBS rebroadcasts of primetime stuff during the daytime) and this (which is a subchannel of CW in my area and carries old movies all the time) |
| [18:36:07] | jblack: | definitey a YMMV thing |
| [18:36:27] | sphery: | all my other subchannels are 24-hr weather garbage |
| [18:36:45] | sphery: | or one is the SDTV version of the HDTV main channel |
| [18:36:50] | sphery: | (which makes absolutely no sense...) |
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| [18:37:19] | sphery: | guess it's good for those who want to record at half the bitrate, though :) |
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| [18:38:35] | tim-: | i appreciate the help.. that helps things make a bit more sense now at least |
| [18:39:11] | sphery: | for US digital, though, there are a lot of good tuner card choices |
| [18:39:45] | tim-: | the hvr-1250 looks to be good for the price. i was looking at it earlier |
| [18:39:51] | sphery: | everything from the HDHomeRun to the Hauppauge HVR-1250 (PCIe) or the Hauppauge HVR-1600 (PCI) |
| [18:39:56] | ** mag0o crosses fingers ** | |
| [18:40:05] | sphery: | and the Avermedia A180 is often cheap if you can find it |
| [18:40:27] | sphery: | unfortunately, you just missed the $39.99 HVR-1250 by 2 days |
| [18:40:34] | iamlindoro: | Or break into my house and choose from the graveyard of ATSC/QAM cards on my desk |
| [18:40:49] | mag0o: | toss me a qam256 one :) |
| [18:40:52] | tim-: | iamlindoro: if you could just send me your address i'll knock that out |
| [18:40:57] | sphery: | and newegg is out of the ones that qualify for the $10 mail-in rebate |
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| [18:41:26] | sphery: | iamlindoro: you should just throw them in the framegrabber bonfire |
| [18:41:36] | mag0o: | prebuffered this time, but it went on playing, so i'd say the router *was* the issue, i'll see if this whole scooby doo plays |
| [18:41:56] | iamlindoro: | sphery, They're only half framegrabber, it's not their fault who their parents were |
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| [18:42:16] | sphery: | tim-: I stand corrected--buy.com got some more HVR-1250's in, so they have it for $49.99 – $10 MIR with free shipping – http://www.buy.com/prod/hauppauge-1196-wintv- . . . 7503282.html |
| [18:42:27] | tim-: | so while specing out the system, if i am putting 2 tuners in and using it as a backend only, should i have any concerns from a cpu (or any other hardware for that matter)standpoint? i was just planning to through a p4 3ghz and a few gigs of ram into it |
| [18:42:33] | tim-: | sphery: awesome thanks! |
| [18:42:52] | sphery: | P4 3GHz is good for a backend system |
| [18:42:57] | sphery: | but is really stretching it for a frontend |
| [18:43:15] | wagnerrp: | other than power and heat concerns, and lack of power for commflagging |
| [18:43:25] | sphery: | might be OK with video card helping (XvMC (*shudders*) or VDPAU) |
| [18:43:41] | tim-: | my frontend will support vdpau |
| [18:43:43] | sphery: | but you'd be better off with a nice low-TDP dual-core system |
| [18:43:49] | mag0o: | my backend is a p4 3ghz with a usb stick for ota a pvr350 for cable and an saa-based card for satellite |
| [18:44:02] | mag0o: | only a gig of ram and its running fine (besides router issues) |
| [18:44:12] | mzb: | for perspective, I use an X2 4400+ for my BE+FE |
| [18:44:34] | tim-: | hmm.. i can probably swing getting a new dual core for backend if that is better |
| [18:44:34] | sphery: | a 3GHz P4 is right on the edge of being able to do software decode and deint of MPEG-2 HDTV |
| [18:44:50] | mag0o: | i don't do any playback on it |
| [18:44:53] | mag0o: | backend only |
| [18:45:03] | sphery: | right now, dual-core isn't used for decoding, but it's nice to have the second core for "other" stuff |
| [18:45:12] | sphery: | mag0o: ah, yeah, P4 3GHz would be fine for a backend |
| [18:45:47] | sphery: | tim-: so, since we don't do multithreaded decode, you're better off getting a high-GHz dual core than a lower-GHz quad core |
| [18:46:50] | mzb: | unless you like being able to run multiple jobs at the same time? |
| [18:46:56] | tim-: | good to know.. i was planning on quad core for my frontend |
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| [18:47:09] | sphery: | Unfortunately my favorite chip ever--the AMD 5050e 45W TDP dual core AM2 CPU--isn't available and they haven't yet released the replacement (the 605e 45W TDP dual core AM3 CPU) (but might be out this month...) |
| [18:47:12] | mag0o: | and actually both of my frontends are p4 2.8 ht, with a 5200 and mx 4000 – both play sd fine on tube 4:3 tv and playback ota hd fine on them too, using cpu-- |
| [18:47:43] | sphery: | tim-: but a nice 65W TDP CPU (either an AMD Regor or an Intel Core 2 Duo) would be great |
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| [18:50:22] | mag0o: | yep, was definately the router, just had another prebuffer pause, but it kept on playing |
| [18:50:53] | jams: | thats better |
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| [18:51:24] | mag0o: | grr, i spoke too soon of course |
| [18:52:14] | mag0o: | so, fsck the recordings disk? |
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| [19:01:24] | [R]: | to fix my vdpau issues i need to turn on vdpau debugging... when i turn on vdpau debugging... myth starts freaking out... i can't win |
| [19:01:34] | wkerzend_: | is anyone here who uses the eu epgdata service? I have trouble with the grabber: format error: can't find EOCD signature |
| [19:02:59] | laga: | wkerzend_: do have you the latest version of the grabber? |
| [19:03:07] | wkerzend_: | I use the 1.3 version |
| [19:03:11] | wkerzend_: | 1.30 |
| [19:03:16] | wkerzend_: | is there a later one? |
| [19:03:31] | wkerzend_: | laga: I use the 1.30 one. |
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| [19:08:37] | laga: | wkerzend_: no, that's the latest one. how many times did you download listings today? |
| [19:09:03] | wkerzend_: | a couple of time I had trouble at first |
| [19:09:18] | wkerzend_: | Is there a limit? |
| [19:09:35] | laga: | yes, there is. it is reset at midnight AFAIK |
| [19:09:53] | wkerzend_: | can I test if I have trouble with the limit? |
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| [19:11:05] | laga: | wkerzend_: go to www.epgdata.com and try to download data there. if you get a blank page, the limit has kicked in |
| [19:11:24] | wkerzend_: | laga: is there some website where I can download it with a browser? |
| [19:11:40] | wkerzend_: | laga: it shows the page of the company |
| [19:19:00] | laga: | wkerzend_: http://www.epgdata.com/index.php?action=sendP . . . &popup=0 |
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| [19:19:46] | wkerzend_: | laga: yes it says limit reached |
| [19:20:20] | laga: | wkerzend_: i recommend that you a) write a polite email to service@epgdata.com indicating their limit is annoying b) wait a few hours ;) |
| [19:24:22] | EvilGuru: | Bah, retuning DVB-T on the 30th should be fun |
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| [19:25:59] | wkerzend_: | laga: I will flame their asses off :D. No I think I will just wait. Would it be useful for the community if I write an email? |
| [19:27:07] | Chaz6: | EvilGuru: you in denmark? |
| [19:27:47] | EvilGuru: | Chaz6: U.K. |
| [19:27:58] | Chaz6: | EvilGuru: ah, we get a new multiplex on november 1st |
| [19:28:05] | Chaz6: | I'll be over visiting again over christmas |
| [19:29:28] | EvilGuru: | It took enough voodoo to tune my source in when I did it some years back |
| [19:30:15] | Chaz6: | Hmm, i picked up a receiver the other day, and it was plain sailing as soon as i got the kernel driver working |
| [19:30:19] | _ben: | Chaz6: Yeah, it's going to be a pain |
| [19:30:23] | EvilGuru: | Not sure how well the backend config utility copes with new channels and changing multiplexes |
| [19:31:07] | Chaz6: | Mmm the new one will be on the same frequency, not really sure about that |
| [19:31:15] | laga: | wkerzend_: for the community? *shrug* i guess if enough people talk to them about it, they will realize it is an issue. unless it is not an issue for you, then you shouldn't write to them ;)) |
| [19:33:04] | Chaz6: | I guess i didn't have to worry about that here |
| [19:33:16] | Chaz6: | Presently there are two, one on 538MHz and one on 810MHz |
| [19:33:26] | Chaz6: | (Nibe-Tolne) |
| [19:36:27] | Chaz6: | Not sure how that's going to work |
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| [19:40:29] | justinh: | so. anybody got ideas how use freeview users should go about rescanning on wednesday? |
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| [19:40:52] | [R]: | justinh: huh? |
| [19:40:58] | justinh: | reckon it's a delete video source, delete channels, scan job or just delete & scan ? |
| [19:41:32] | justinh: | [R]: I take it you're not in the UK so you have no idea what freeview is |
| [19:41:48] | dgilmore: | anyone got the vodka plugin working? |
| [19:42:11] | [R]: | why wold you delete anything if you just have to rescan? |
| [19:43:16] | justinh: | [R]: same old same old. Channels are moving all over the place, stuff is going AWOL |
| [19:43:27] | [R]: | i once wrote a nice little perl script |
| [19:43:31] | [R]: | that used one of those dvb command line utils |
| [19:43:39] | [R]: | that scanned the dvb tables |
| [19:43:43] | [R]: | and updated the database |
| [19:43:46] | justinh: | I'm not ****ing resorting to that if I can help it |
| [19:44:08] | justinh: | no 'Uncle Bob's wiki script' solutions for me thanks |
| [19:44:37] | [R]: | huh? |
| [19:45:27] | justinh: | it's not going to be a simple case of rescanning. stuff will be moving all over the place. muxes will be on different frequencies & there'll be less of them |
| [19:45:55] | justinh: | mythtv-setup doesn't delete channels which are no longer there, last time I looked |
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| [19:46:17] | [R]: | yeah, i think my script used a static list of frequenices |
| [19:46:24] | [R]: | but it would be trivial to write a script that didn't |
| [19:46:59] | justinh: | again, I should reiterate that having to use external scripts should be a no-no |
| [19:47:13] | [R]: | you'd rather have to manually do this then have somethign in the background automatically fix it? |
| [19:47:19] | ** [R] ponders the logic to that ** | |
| [19:47:42] | justinh: | I have my own channel numbers, icon paths.. stuff like that |
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| [19:48:06] | justinh: | not only that but I don't take all the channels available. there are a lot not worth having :) |
| [19:48:18] | justinh: | it's gonna be a BIG PITA for us UK peeps |
| [19:49:09] | [R]: | yeah... sounds like a script that runs every week would be ideal |
| [19:49:21] | justinh: | you have no idea |
| [19:49:23] | iamlindoro: | While I am a great proponent of myth's flexibility, I think the community in general resorting to scripts for so much is the cause of a lot of our usability issues |
| [19:49:33] | justinh: | precisely |
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| [19:49:45] | iamlindoro: | And that's *not* to say that a script can't be a good idea sometimes, just that I see both sides |
| [19:49:49] | justinh: | or certainly the cause of developers not becoming aware of issues |
| [19:50:06] | iamlindoro: | ie last year we had someone willing to bankroll a real honest to goodness recommendation ssytem a la tivo |
| [19:50:19] | _ben: | justinh: i reckon .21 will be ok |
| [19:50:31] | _ben: | trunk will erm, be interesting |
| [19:50:31] | iamlindoro: | but it never materialized because people having nothing to do with development started chiming in w/ their scripts and hacks |
| [19:50:39] | justinh: | _ben: yeah, it'll find stuff. but the sorting out.. it's not gonna do Jack |
| [19:50:47] | _ben: | yup |
| [19:50:49] | justinh: | especially for those of us who use xmltv |
| [19:51:05] | justinh: | iamlindoro: twitter API? ;) |
| [19:51:10] | iamlindoro: | heh |
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| [19:51:43] | justinh: | I'm not in the least bit worried myth won't succeed in finding the new lineups |
| [19:51:50] | justinh: | I'm concerned about the aftermath |
| [19:52:02] | iamlindoro: | All my above said, I am heartened of late because I think at least a fair number of us are genuinely working on consistency and usability, and we're largely on the same page |
| [19:52:26] | justinh: | I'd love to come up with a way of sorting out the xmltv/DVB mashup mess we have now |
| [19:52:31] | justinh: | screw the UI |
| [19:52:51] | justinh: | it's ****ing horrible what xmltv & DVB users have to do |
| [19:54:27] | justinh: | sure people could write scripts, but why not concentrate effort on fixing the problem at source instead? ;-) |
| [19:55:00] | iamlindoro: | Think that's the aim of the setup API and the xmltv lineup project, no? |
| [19:55:20] | justinh: | damn DVB. Poor mythtv has to work around every country's own kinks in the 'standard', hence all the scanning breakages we keep having |
| [19:55:48] | _ben: | so, i'm moving into a new flat soon and i was thinking of a new tv |
| [19:55:55] | _ben: | do i hold back cos of dvb-t2? |
| [19:56:02] | justinh: | no use saying "muh, but my STB just works" – they come with the workarounds built in |
| [19:56:22] | justinh: | _ben: you'll have a bloody long wait |
| [19:56:45] | _ben: | heh ok |
| [19:56:53] | dustybin: | Mythtv – UK Edition |
| [19:56:55] | justinh: | they're not even demoing integrated DVB-T2 tuner hardware yet |
| [19:56:56] | dustybin: | Mythtv – US Edition |
| [19:57:31] | justinh: | I have my doubts that it's even going to be worth having |
| [19:57:31] | _ben: | i reckon it'll be like 2010 tho |
| [19:57:36] | _ben: | which isn't that long off |
| [19:57:55] | Chaz6: | Call me old fashioned, I like a tv that doesn't do any decoding at all, rather use a separate box |
| [19:58:07] | justinh: | I don't watch anything like enough TV to justify HD anyway |
| [19:58:12] | wagnerrp: | Chaz6: you mean a monitor? |
| [19:58:20] | Chaz6: | VDU :) |
| [19:58:32] | _ben: | sod having separates |
| [19:58:43] | justinh: | separates are messy |
| [19:58:43] | Chaz6: | If it's upgradable, that wouldn't be so bad |
| [19:58:57] | justinh: | the point is – there's no need for TVs to be upgradeable |
| [19:59:05] | Chaz6: | Evidently there is |
| [19:59:12] | Chaz6: | New transmission technologies |
| [19:59:13] | justinh: | well there is, but there isn't |
| [19:59:22] | Chaz6: | So I prefer it separate |
| [19:59:32] | Chaz6: | Much easier to ugprade a box, and allows more flexibility |
| [19:59:46] | justinh: | more £££ though |
| [19:59:53] | Chaz6: | That is the trade-off |
| [19:59:56] | justinh: | more remotes. more buttons to press |
| [20:00:04] | justinh: | more inputs needed |
| [20:00:10] | justinh: | less WAF |
| [20:00:15] | Chaz6: | Only if they're not standards compliant |
| [20:00:33] | justinh: | if I had a TV that could do everything mythtv can do I'd be happy :) |
| [20:01:33] | Chaz6: | I would think it's not beyond the realms of physics to make a set that has a swappable receiver/decoder module |
| [20:01:46] | justinh: | true, so why isn't anybody doing it? |
| [20:02:05] | justinh: | part of the problem is 'standards' & getting the bastard manufacturers to actually agree on something |
| [20:02:08] | rushfan: | Hey I'm trying to compile MythTV from the latest svn checkout but its breaking on this error: |
| [20:02:11] | rushfan: | ../../libs/libmyth/libmyth-0.22.so: undefined reference to `vtable for soundtouch::TDStretchMMX' |
| [20:02:15] | Chaz6: | Maybe because the display technology also improves so it's not worthwhile |
| [20:02:32] | justinh: | Chaz6: maybe because they want you to buy a whole new $thing instead :D |
| [20:02:35] | wagnerrp: | rushfan: thats what happens when your programs are not built against your libraries |
| [20:02:37] | Chaz6: | justinh: well yeah :) |
| [20:02:46] | justinh: | more to go into landfill yay! |
| [20:02:53] | Chaz6: | and make sure they stuff in drm stuff |
| [20:02:58] | rushfan: | wagnerrp: eh, can you be more specific? |
| [20:03:08] | wagnerrp: | not really |
| [20:03:15] | justinh: | erm.. I mean more to go to 3rd world countries where kids working for slave wages can recycle the bits |
| [20:03:20] | wagnerrp: | that was pretty specific |
| [20:03:35] | rushfan: | wagnerrp: Define libaries and what programs please? |
| [20:03:57] | wagnerrp: | libmyth-0.22.so is a library, mythfrontend is a program |
| [20:03:58] | justinh: | anyhoo. not looking fwd to wednesday afternoon |
| [20:04:07] | Chaz6: | Why is it changing? |
| [20:04:25] | wagnerrp: | you are trying to run a program compiled for a different version of your libraries |
| [20:04:30] | rushfan: | wagnerrp: yes I'm aware. Is mythfrontend not being compiled against libmyth or something? |
| [20:04:36] | rushfan: | wagnerrp: I'm not running anything. |
| [20:04:41] | rushfan: | I'm compiling a fresh installation |
| [20:04:41] | Chaz6: | Maybe im getting my wires crossed |
| [20:04:51] | justinh: | Chaz6: because the government is a bunch of greedy ***ks. they're selling off the old analogue TV spectrum & forcing us all to go digital |
| [20:04:52] | wagnerrp: | alternatively, your mythtv libraries are compiled against a different version of some dependency |
| [20:05:09] | wagnerrp: | if you are compiling on your own, just recompile all of myth |
| [20:05:13] | rushfan: | wagnerrp: I am. |
| [20:05:25] | Chaz6: | justinh: analogue is being dropped here on november 1st |
| [20:05:29] | dustybin: | justinh: analogue gets switched off this weds? |
| [20:05:32] | justinh: | Chaz6: so in essence rather than re-use the old analogue space for new/better/extra stuff, we're actually ending up with the same amount of channels in less space |
| [20:05:42] | rushfan: | wagnerrp: thats why I'm confused here. I removed the old installation and am recompiling from scratch |
| [20:05:44] | _ben: | part of wednesday stuff is to make way for dvb-t2 |
| [20:05:48] | justinh: | no |
| [20:05:54] | justinh: | not as such |
| [20:06:01] | wagnerrp: | rushfan: that error was during compiling? |
| [20:06:08] | Chaz6: | one of the reasons i left britain (again) was the stupid government |
| [20:06:09] | rushfan: | wagnerrp: yes |
| [20:06:16] | justinh: | _ben: part of it is killing a mux off, yes |
| [20:06:20] | wagnerrp: | well then youre likely missing some header file |
| [20:06:38] | wagnerrp: | or youre not linking in a library directory properly |
| [20:06:56] | justinh: | _ben: the other reason is they're moving the DVB-T transmitter frequencies already |
| [20:06:57] | rushfan: | wagnerrp: do I need to specify the qt4 path? |
| [20:07:10] | Chaz6: | Never did get my deposit back from VM, ***holes |
| [20:07:25] | wagnerrp: | rushfan: are you running trunk? |
| [20:07:25] | justinh: | Chaz6: still got the STB? :P |
| [20:07:36] | rushfan: | wagnerrp: yes |
| [20:07:40] | Chaz6: | justinh: i still got a modem, i ended up with 3 somehow, they only took one back |
| [20:07:54] | Chaz6: | i wouldn't want to keep the crappy stb anyway, was a pace |
| [20:08:00] | justinh: | Chaz6: they're better than Sky though. Those lying bastards are going round here telling folks that on switchover time, nobody will get telly without Sky |
| [20:08:04] | wagnerrp: | well then no, qt4 is typically installed in the default directories (/usr/lib or /usr/local/lib) |
| [20:08:16] | wagnerrp: | as opposed to qt3, which usually stuck itself in its own directory |
| [20:08:21] | Chaz6: | justinh: haha what a surprise, my nan got ripped off by sky |
| [20:08:28] | Chaz6: | They kept billing and billing and wouldn't stop |
| [20:08:52] | justinh: | I've considered getting Sky a couple of times but for all they mention 'free installation' & stuff, they won't stump up the BT line install fee |
| [20:08:55] | rushfan: | wagnerrp: well is there anyway I can get more specifics on why this is breaking from the compiler? |
| [20:09:11] | justinh: | so their "tenner a month" ends up at least double that |
| [20:09:18] | Chaz6: | Requiring a phone line is dumb, but i don't get why VM charge 10 quid extra for cable with no phone |
| [20:09:20] | justinh: | plus line rental |
| [20:09:37] | Chaz6: | The first cable i got was with telewest, was good back then |
| [20:09:54] | wagnerrp: | rushfan: other than looking through the compile errors, not really |
| [20:10:02] | rushfan: | wagnerrp: I am and its not being helpful at all |
| [20:10:04] | wagnerrp: | s/error/log/ |
| [20:10:05] | justinh: | no complaints about my cable. Think we've only had a handful of outages in the 9 years we've had it |
| [20:10:11] | dustybin: | why dont BT sell internet only lines? |
| [20:10:13] | justinh: | once we got the samsung STB that is :) |
| [20:10:20] | rushfan: | Its basically failing while trying to link to that libmyth |
| [20:10:25] | Chaz6: | I ended up just getting all 3 |
| [20:10:28] | justinh: | the ondemand stuff is nice |
| [20:10:33] | Chaz6: | 65/m |
| [20:10:49] | dustybin: | 21:10 < justinh> no complaints about my cable. Think we've only had a handful of outages in the 9 years we've had it |
| [20:10:57] | dustybin: | whoops |
| [20:10:58] | Chaz6: | Now i'm quite chuffed I have 2*100mbs for internet in my apartment :) |
| [20:11:01] | justinh: | I want to be able to totally customise a channel package ;) |
| [20:11:16] | justinh: | or just watch everything on-demand |
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| [20:11:32] | ** _ben gets bbc ondemand ** | |
| [20:11:39] | Chaz6: | shame there don't seem to be any VOD companies here that work over internet |
| [20:11:43] | _ben: | (and no, not iplayer) |
| [20:11:53] | Chaz6: | I got a vpn for watching iplayer stuff |
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| [20:12:10] | Chaz6: | Got cable in the apartment anyway from yousee, but i don't watch it much |
| [20:12:53] | justinh: | so, think I'll do a DB backup, back up my xmltv config file.. wreck the lot & do it again from scratch |
| [20:12:55] | Chaz6: | I don't suppose you remember the name of that service offering free off-air recording for ja.net users? |
| [20:13:06] | justinh: | ruh? |
| [20:13:18] | justinh: | never heard of such a thing |
| [20:13:23] | Chaz6: | I can't remember, it was jointly developed at cam.ac.uk |
| [20:13:54] | Chaz6: | it's a really good set up, they keep one week of all broadcasts, and you can request a programme be archived semi-permanently |
| [20:14:19] | justinh: | was that based on the thing the bbc R&D dept demoed at some geek event or other? |
| [20:14:32] | _ben: | no, thats redux |
| [20:14:41] | _ben: | and it rocks |
| [20:15:05] | justinh: | wasn't called that when I first watched the demo vid of it |
| [20:15:57] | justinh: | nah it wasn't redux |
| [20:16:03] | justinh: | placeshifting will never appeal to me |
| [20:16:47] | Chaz6: | I new i was going to kick myself for forgetting to make a note of it |
| [20:17:09] | _ben: | justinh: nah, it's not great but it's great for the archive |
| [20:17:21] | Chaz6: | Aha got it! http://www.boxofbroadcasts.com/ |
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| [20:18:02] | Chaz6: | Nifty, they even have searchable subtitles |
| [20:18:19] | Chaz6: | I still haven't figured out how to demux those in linux (apart from just watching them in vlc) |
| [20:19:44] | Chaz6: | Eek, i was wrong, wasn't cam.ac.uk, it was bournemouth uni, and cambridge imaging systems |
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| [20:20:15] | Chaz6: | Shame that it's built on open source and they don't provide their own source, at least not that i could find |
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| [20:29:10] | sphery: | which license is that? BSD? |
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| [20:34:38] | wagnerrp: | most of them except for gpl |
| [20:41:17] | wagnerrp: | seems intel's new optical peripheral interconnect is another attempt by apple to beat out USB |
| [20:42:08] | sphery: | So, it's FireOptic cable? |
| [20:42:18] | sphery: | (no, the lack of a b is not a typo :) |
| [20:42:22] | wagnerrp: | indeed |
| [20:42:41] | wagnerrp: | you know... you ruined the whole thing when you had to point out the pun |
| [20:42:52] | wagnerrp: | the capitalization was sufficient |
| [20:43:00] | sphery: | well, I figured you all know my penchant for typos, so... |
| [20:44:05] | wagnerrp: | well heres hoping something comes of it, i have no love for USB |
| [20:44:43] | Chaz6: | I'm all for it :) |
| [20:44:55] | Chaz6: | Interesting that it carries power too |
| [20:45:15] | Chaz6: | I guess it's one glass/plastic + 2 copper |
| [20:45:41] | wagnerrp: | maybe with Intel in charge of it, cheap hardware will be available and licensing will be inexpensive |
| [20:45:48] | sphery: | wagnerrp: but, USB 3--er, I mean SuperSpeed USB (since I'm not supposed to call it USB3)--is really nice |
| [20:45:58] | sphery: | it's basically PCIe on a USB cable |
| [20:45:59] | [R]: | they should call it EXTREME usb |
| [20:46:02] | wagnerrp: | they seem able to throw large amounts of money at a solution to make it common |
| [20:46:13] | wagnerrp: | sphery: oh? its actually hardware drivern now? |
| [20:46:35] | sphery: | wagnerrp: yeah, no polling and asynchronous and beautiful |
| [20:46:36] | Chaz6: | I'm not an apple fan, but they did a good job with firewire and displayport |
| [20:46:39] | sphery: | and I /hate/ USB |
| [20:46:43] | wagnerrp: | as opposed to 1.0/1.1/2.0 which were software driven |
| [20:46:45] | sphery: | USB3, though.... |
| [20:46:52] | sphery: | exactly |
| [20:47:08] | Chaz6: | displayport is also specced for optical transmission |
| [20:47:16] | Chaz6: | Hardware is very rare though |
| [20:47:22] | sphery: | In my world, USB3 and USB only have in common 3 letters :) |
| [20:47:37] | sphery: | Chaz6: I also love DisplayPort :) |
| [20:47:41] | wagnerrp: | i have no opinion of displayport |
| [20:47:46] | sphery: | mostly because it's more patent friendly than HDMI |
| [20:47:56] | wagnerrp: | DVI, HDMI, displayport... to me theyre all practically the same thing with different connectors |
| [20:48:12] | sphery: | and HDMI is the "hey, let's all throw in patented techs so we can each get a share of the HDMI royalties we'll force all users to pay" |
| [20:49:09] | wagnerrp: | what is there to patent? its just DVI with the frequency cranked up |
| [20:50:35] | wagnerrp: | 'other improvements include multiple independent video streams (daisy-chain connection with multiple monitors)' |
| [20:50:40] | wagnerrp: | that would be nice.... |
| [20:50:55] | sphery: | DisplayPort is currently royalty free, while the HDMI royalty is 4 cents per device and has an annual fee of $10,000 for high volume manufacturers. (per http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DisplayPort ) |
| [20:51:02] | sphery: | Yeah, I want my 4 cents... |
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| [20:51:05] | wagnerrp: | especially with ATI's new cards letting me to drop back to one video card |
| [20:53:10] | [R]: | displayport has a 1Mb/s control port... wtf does a control port need 1 Mbit |
| [20:53:51] | sphery: | yeah, 640k should be enough for anyone |
| [20:53:59] | [R]: | haha |
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| [21:14:14] | family-mythbox: | Anyone here able to answer questions about mythbuntu 9.10 + mythtv .22 trunk? |
| [21:15:37] | iamlindoro: | family-mythbox, This isn't really a "volunteer without knowing what you're getting into" channel (nor would you want it to be), so it'd be best just to ask your questions and see how it goes |
| [21:16:19] | family-mythbox: | Well I can't get mythfrontend to find / list any videos from /var/lib/mythtv/videos (the default directory) |
| [21:16:34] | iamlindoro: | Did you run a scan? |
| [21:16:39] | family-mythbox: | I've ran the video manager |
| [21:16:44] | iamlindoro: | that's not how it's done |
| [21:16:46] | iamlindoro: | (anymore) |
| [21:16:52] | iamlindoro: | read the mythvideo .22 transition page on the wiki |
| [21:17:04] | simcop2387: | anyone know how close .22 is to being ready for prime time? |
| [21:17:08] | family-mythbox: | sigh... why didn't they just autoscan? lol |
| [21:17:17] | iamlindoro: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythVideo_.22_Transition_Guide |
| [21:17:28] | family-mythbox: | thanks for the link |
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| [21:23:32] | sphery: | simcop2387: well, that depends on where you're at. Here, it's currently about 2hrs 36min 30sec until primetime. |
| [21:23:59] | sphery: | though I'm still using 0.21-fixes, so really I'll only have 0.21-fixes ready for primetime. |
| [21:25:49] | ** dustybin decides to come out of the wood work because .22 is close to release ** | |
| [21:26:37] | family-mythbox: | oh, .22 is being released today? |
| [21:26:41] | family-mythbox: | lol |
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| [21:33:51] | sphery: | Thought I just dropped my production DB--which would have made my statement about having 0.21-fixes ready for primetime potentially incorrect. |
| [21:34:41] | sphery: | fortunately, it just turns out that I had forgotten that I had restored my dev system's DB already (so actually both DB's were there when I thought one was gone) |
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| [21:47:31] | laga: | i must be being stupid. what's the deal with the category field for id3 tags? i can only see the genre field in the wikipedia page |
| [21:49:30] | family-mythbox: | category such as rock , metal , blues, etc? |
| [21:49:43] | family-mythbox: | Anyone no why I have no sound in mythbuntu 9.10 + .22 |
| [21:49:47] | family-mythbox: | :( |
| [21:49:49] | laga: | yeah. in k3b, category has about 8 values or so |
| [21:49:58] | sphery: | family-mythbox: PulseAudio? |
| [21:50:08] | family-mythbox: | yes, it appears pulse is on my system |
| [21:50:08] | sphery: | though in mythbuntu, that should be gone... I think. |
| [21:50:24] | family-mythbox: | do I need to revert everything back to alsa? |
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| [21:52:06] | sphery: | well, myth doesn't work properly through PulseAudio |
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| [21:52:44] | sphery: | but I'd assume that mythbuntu had configured the system to not use Pulse--because Myth doesn't work properly through Pulse |
| [21:53:04] | sphery: | Don't know anything about the koala, though |
| [21:53:21] | family-mythbox: | i did install ubuntu-desktop though as I find the base distribution pretty weak |
| [21:53:31] | jduggan: | hm i use pulse, sorta :p |
| [21:53:41] | jduggan: | psuedo device |
| [21:53:48] | laga: | family-mythbox: you need to disable pulse. |
| [21:54:25] | sphery: | jduggan: well, when sound gets muted and doesn't unmute for a fast-forward or channel change or whatever, don't ask why :) |
| [21:54:59] | jduggan: | huh |
| [21:55:09] | jduggan: | i never had such problem |
| [21:55:52] | jduggan: | why would you want sound to unmute to fast forward |
| [21:57:10] | sphery: | so you don't hear screaching and 3x or 5x or 20x audio sounds |
| [21:57:44] | jduggan: | you mean mute not unmute then? |
| [21:57:55] | jduggan: | it works as expected for me |
| [21:59:12] | iamlindoro: | IF you are using recent fixes *or* trunk, you're not using trunk if you're using myth |
| [21:59:18] | iamlindoro: | er not using pulse if |
| [21:59:42] | iamlindoro: | You might think you are, but far more likely myth is using the hook to disable pulse and get at alsa directly |
| [22:00:26] | sphery: | even in -fixes Myth attempts to disable pulse |
| [22:00:33] | sphery: | but it might come back |
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| [22:00:46] | sphery: | and it's the unmuting /after/ the FFWD stops |
| [22:01:11] | sphery: | best is to unconfigure it |
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| [22:06:01] | jduggan: | while its not bust i aint fixin it :) |
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| [22:07:39] | sid3windr: | dontcha! |
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| [22:39:35] | aliby: | Any idea when I hit the skip button on my remote that it skips but also mutes the audio? |
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| [23:06:12] | thezfunk1: | hey guys, I don't suppose anyone is availabe to answer a quick question? |
| [23:06:29] | [R]: | if you have a uqestion you should just aski t |
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| [23:08:28] | thezfunk1: | I am trying to install myth 0.21 with VDPAU on my ION board. If I put avenard's release repositories in my sources I get the 180 version. If i put testing in my sourses list I get the 190 version. I want the 185 which is in the testing repositories. How do I modify the install command to select the 185's |
| [23:09:38] | [R]: | "the install command"? |
| [23:10:04] | thezfunk1: | apt-get install whatever |
| [23:10:45] | thezfunk1: | apt-get install libmyth-0.21–0 libmyth-perl mythtv-backend mythtv-common mythtv-frontend mythtv-transcode-utils pluto-mythtv-player |
| [23:11:11] | [R]: | and if you just install the 185 version? |
| [23:11:31] | thezfunk1: | that's my question how do I specify the 185 version |
| [23:11:55] | [R]: | install it just like any other package... |
| [23:12:05] | thezfunk1: | release gets me 180's, testing gets me 190's...i see 185 in the testing but I need to tell it to grab the 185's not the 190's |
| [23:12:51] | [R]: | 180,185,190 are all in the package name |
| [23:12:59] | [R]: | so whe you apt-get, type what you want |
| [23:14:01] | RyeBrye: | sudo apt-get clue |
| [23:14:33] | sphery: | aliby: heh... your timing is impeccable... You were only about 45 minutes too late to reading the channel. |
| [23:14:53] | sphery: | aliby: the problem is you're using PulseAudio and it doesn't work. |
| [23:14:59] | sphery: | so get rid of Pulse. |
| [23:15:09] | sphery: | disable it with a vengeance |
| [23:15:41] | thezfunk1: | are avenard's nvidia drivers any different than the regular ones |
| [23:16:22] | [R]: | thezfunk1: its not his drivers... he just packages the ones from nvidia |
| [23:16:53] | aliby: | ahh sphery i thought so |
| [23:16:55] | thezfunk1: | that's what I thought...just making sure, thanks |
| [23:17:33] | aliby: | Any easy way to disable pulseaudio? |
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| [23:17:46] | iamlindoro: | apt-get remove --purge pulseaudio ? |
| [23:17:58] | RyeBrye: | [R]: If you are working on getting avenards stuff to work, why don't you ask avenard? |
| [23:18:13] | RyeBrye: | oh, wait |
| [23:18:23] | RyeBrye: | you aren't the one doing it... I meant to tell the other guy that :P |
| [23:18:25] | ** RyeBrye is tired ** | |
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| [23:20:42] | aliby: | thanks iamlindoro |
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