Beirdobot, irc.freenode.net

Saturday, September 26th, 2009, 00:00 UTC

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dustybin:

meshe: i will order that book

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dustybin:

before any script / language, regex comes first

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dashcloud:

having just seen Flash Forward, it looks very promising

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Dagmar:

I can say without having seen it that the book was probably better.

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laga:

and i was just gonna scream and toss because someone said flash was promising ;)

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Dagmar:

I can only HOPE that the event is more than just a plot gimmick in the show

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dashcloud:

I'm psyched for it, especially since Fringe is getting really strange this season, and moving a lot closer to SciFi standards than it was last season

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johnsu01:

after a few incidents, including running out of disk space and also doing an upgrade, I now have no video when watching recordings

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johnsu01:

just audio

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johnsu01:

I can play the recordings on the same box with mplayer just fine

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johnsu01:

with live tv, I get the myth info boxes on the screen, but no video

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johnsu01:

I guess it seems like a video card setting was probably lost..

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mag0o:

db probably crashed if you ran out of space

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mag0o:

there is a script that will fix up the database, though i dont recall the name right off hand

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mag0o:

myth_optimize_db or something along those lines

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rkjnsn:

Okay. I seem to have run into a problem with MythMusic. I have a CD that matches exactly two CDs on the freedb server I am using (actually the MusicBrainz freedb proxy). The problem is that unlike my desktop ripping program, which prompts me to select which match is correct, MythMusic just picks one, which is, in this case, the wrong one. Is there any way to select the other entry?

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wagnerrp:

whats with the massive amount of tickets today

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iamlindoro:

erik hovland

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iamlindoro:

is the answer :)

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wagnerrp:

yeah, i see its all one person

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Dagmar:

heheheh

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Er1K:

hey, stop making my screen flash :)

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wagnerrp:

i wonder just how much i need to change in #6839 before its completely new code

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oktiv:

good day everyone, i have an issue with my first mythbuntu install. I've looked through miles of topics and can't seem to find an answer. also it's been almost a decade since i've been on irc so please excuse me if i goof on the etiquette.

[02:45:29]

oktiv:

livetv works once per frontend session, 2nd time only sound with a pvr-150. on first boot, all is well. live tv works and and sound is fine. i can browse the guide and change channels. i can watch a recorded program. but i can only do one of these per frontend session.

[02:45:29]

oktiv:

if i go to livetv then back to the main menu then back to livetv, there is no video only sound.

[02:45:29]

oktiv:

i have to exit the frontend application and restart the frontend application (not the machine).

[02:45:30]

oktiv:

if i go to recorded programs i can watch one but not a second one. restart the application...

[02:45:30]

oktiv:

basically whenever it goes to the gui, things get wonky.

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wagnerrp:

oof

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wagnerrp:

you didnt type that out in notepad and copy it in did you?

[02:46:27]

oktiv:

sorry?!!!! it is a post i made from a forum

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wagnerrp:

pasting multiple lines in is not a good thing

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oktiv:

i seem to remember now, something about spamming the board right

[02:47:57]

wagnerrp:

multiple lines in rapid succession just tends to cause problems for everyone

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wagnerrp:

so this is a playback issue, the actual recorded files play fine in another application?

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oktiv:

like i said, about a decade. i beg forgivness and promise never to do it again. ever

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wagnerrp:

no need to be so serious

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wagnerrp:

and besides, my (non-op) opinion makes no difference... :P

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oktiv:

well, everything plays fine. the live tv or the recorded show. but just the first time i get into the frontend. if i go to the live tv and then to the main menu, i cannot get back in the live tv video, only sound

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android60:

What in the channel table does mythtv use to tune the channel, the freqid?

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wagnerrp:

i mean can you go to your recordings directory, and play the livetv recordings with mplayer?

[02:52:14]

wagnerrp:

android60: analog or digital?

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android60:

wagnerrp: digital

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wagnerrp:

mplexid and serviceid

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oktiv:

analog cable, the recordings are fine, but again only once. then i have to close the frontend (not shud down) and then start the application again. mplexid & serviceid?

[02:54:01]

oktiv:

and thanks

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wagnerrp:

oktiv: talking to android60

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android60:

wagnerrp: so if its null thats bad then right? and also, should analog channels have null mplexid and serviceid

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wagnerrp:

android60: digital channels need those two to tune, analog channels need neither

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android60:

ok

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wagnerrp:

oktiv: go to your recordings directory, check your livetv recordings with mplayer, see if they all play with video

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android60:

using mythfilldatabase manually, is there a way to have it only update program info and not channel info

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oktiv:

member:wagnerrp: is ther an easy way to put your name in the text or is a copy/paste best? the recorded live tv videos are fine, mpg files. all video and audio are fine for all of them. there is an error though "A0: [pulse] Failed to connect to server: Internal error"

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wagnerrp:

thats because mythtv shuts down pulse audio, because it causes problems with A/V sync

[03:02:42]

wagnerrp:

so if the files are all fine, your tuner card is fine, and its a playback issue

[03:02:51]

wagnerrp:

what video card are you using?

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oktiv:

H pvr-150

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wagnerrp:

video card, not tuner card

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wagnerrp:

output device

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oktiv:

duh!! nvidia

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oktiv:

hang on

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wagnerrp:

you have the nvidia binary drivers installed?

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oktiv:

geforce 8600 gt, the proprietary driver? yes

[03:04:45]

wagnerrp:

maybe see if mythtv is trying to use xvmc, disable it

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kormoc:

Anyone know how to change the capture resolution on the hdpvr for standard def?

[03:05:16]

jpabq:

kormoc: It always captures at whatever resolution it is fed.

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kormoc:

Rgr, that's what I figured

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jpabq:

Can you change your STB to scale for you?

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kormoc:

Yeah, but I'm enjoying the much smaller files when I don't let it, just odd that it's outputting 720x480

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jpabq:

Oh, you want something like 640x480 instead?

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kormoc:

Yeah, I'd like to keep it 4:3 if I could

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oktiv:

wagnerrp: i read "Geforce 8 and later do not support XvMC" from the mythtv wiki on XvMC. let me look into what it is an how to tell

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iamlindoro:

Heh, a billboard on FlashForward: "Oceanic Airlines: Perfect Safety Record!"

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rkjnsn:

I searched through the mailing list archive, and I could only find messages about problems getting freedb to work at all, and nothing about selecting the correct CD when there are multiple correct matches.

[03:13:06]

rkjnsn:

And the online documentation is very sparse on importing CDs.

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oktiv:

wagnerrp: running "mythfrontend --version" from terminal shows xvmc, xvmcw, xvmc_vld am i lookin in the right place?

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wagnerrp:

you are correct that the 8-series does not support xvmc, but im still wondering if it is trying to, and failing, which is causing your issue

[03:20:09]

wagnerrp:

go into utilities --> setup --> tv settings --> playback

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wagnerrp:

and go a couple pages in to playback profiles

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wagnerrp:

from the dropdown at the top, select slim

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wagnerrp:

see if that fixes your issue

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oktiv:

"current video playback profile" i had it set to cpu++ because its a core2duo 64bit mythbun 9.04 @ 2.66 w/ 4gb

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oktiv:

let me try this

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wagnerrp:

no, unless you have very good reason to use something else (and know what youre doing), you should be using slim

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oktiv:

it should be a default then!!!

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oktiv:

:)

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wagnerrp:

to be honest, i dont know what is default anymore

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oktiv:

custom is the new default

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kormoc:

why would you be using XvMC on a core 2 duo?

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wagnerrp:

kormoc: i have no idea if he is

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wagnerrp:

thats just my first guess

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oktiv:

because i'm a linux noob (trying very hard) that is typing this on a mac book pro and who fixes f*(& windows machines all day :)

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oktiv:

wagnerrp: i love you in a non gay way!!!! i've been banging my head for two weeks now and you've fixed the issue completely!

[03:28:20]

oktiv:

let me scan and email you a beer

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** wagnerrp opens mail to find live bobcat, will not assist again **

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oktiv:

can i ref. your irc id on the mythbuntu forum?

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wagnerrp:

no need, all i did was tell you to use 'slim'

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wagnerrp:

http://xkcd.com/325 ... if you didnt get the above reference

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oktiv:

well i need to post it a [SOLVED] and thank you for not linking me to /b/

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wagnerrp:

no, that would be 'caturdaylol' over in the user list

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caturdaylol is now known as caturday

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caturday:

lolhaiguise

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oktiv:

good to know. one more question

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wagnerrp:

!trout caturday calender

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** MythLogBot slaps caturday with a calender trout on behalf of wagnerrp... **

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wagnerrp:

youve still got half an hour to wait

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caturday:

a calendar trout....

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caturday:

wtf

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wagnerrp:

yep, from DC, its still Friday there

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oktiv:

also does the frontend buffer livetv when the gui is up? can i be watching livetv, go to the menu (escape) and then return to the livetv and rewind to see what i've missed?

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caturday:

wagnerrp: uh, no

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[R]:

oktiv: no

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wagnerrp:

no

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caturday:

every day is caturday

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wagnerrp:

if you leave livetv, you cannot return

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wagnerrp:

you can hit 'r' before you leave, to turn it into a recording

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oktiv:

do you think it's possible?

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wagnerrp:

but then you have to go into recordings in the media library

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wagnerrp:

and continue to watch the recording in-progress

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oktiv:

maybe in the future. i like your thinking. I should email you a bobcat

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wagnerrp:

probably not, few (if any) of the devs use livetv

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[R]:

wtf, this is the 2nd show i've watchend vdpau is acting perfectly

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RyeBrye:

I've wanted the frontend buffering livetv when the gui is up for a long time... but I gave up a long time ago and just never use livetv on myth

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wagnerrp:

it probably wouldnt be all that difficult to have an alternate 'escape' that leaves the livetv running

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wagnerrp:

and have a popup when you first start up livetv, to allow you to connect to an in-progress session

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RyeBrye:

yeah, makes sense

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oktiv:

so most all of the "power users" just use myth to time shift their tv watching

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RyeBrye:

yep

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wagnerrp:

you could even allow multiple frontends on one viewing session

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wagnerrp:

but that could get difficult when one party decided to change channels

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RyeBrye:

beat down

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oktiv:

multiple cards?

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RyeBrye:

Yeah, have them jump onto another tuner or something

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oktiv:

why am i watching th 700 club?

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RyeBrye:

and if they can't jump to another tuner to get what they want, they can't always get what they want

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Dagmar:

oktiv: Bad taste

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oktiv:

nope, just the channel myth was on :( i'm not that old

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wagnerrp:

RyeBrye: well the initial user should have priority

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rkjnsn:

Is there a better spot to ask my question?

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RyeBrye:

?

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wagnerrp:

rkjnsn: never saw any question from you

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wagnerrp:

oh, its way up there...

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wagnerrp:

how would there be multiple correct matches?

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oktiv:

ahh spiderman, that's better. i'll leave you peeps alone for now. i've got a list on the todo before i put this machine in production.

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rkjnsn:

Two different CD's have the same discid, so the server responds by saying there are multiple exact matches. The ripper on my PC let's me pick which one is correct, but mythmusic just seems to pick one at random.

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oktiv:

thanks again wagnerrp

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wagnerrp:

it probably picks the first match

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wagnerrp:

and two entries with the same ID sounds like a broken system

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rkjnsn:

Well, yes, it could be said that freedb's discids are a broken system, but that's what we've got.

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rkjnsn:

discid collisions are a know issue, which is why the protocol has a provision for multiple exact matches.

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rkjnsn:

Is there another way to get metadata in mythmusic?

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wagnerrp:

have it in the mp3s when you scan them

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wagnerrp:

mythmusic can read existing ID3 tags just fine

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rkjnsn:

Well, this is actually something I'm setting up for my dad, so he would pretty much just be putting CDs into the Myth box to import them.

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rkjnsn:

I was just wondering if there was an alternate to freedb for the import cd function.

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rkjnsn:

Since you mentioned that the current system sounds broken.

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wagnerrp:

dont know, never used it

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rkjnsn:

Ah. Okay.

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Cyber-Dogg:

howdy

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cesman:

hello Cyber-Dogg

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rkjnsn:

Do you think I should ask the list?

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rkjnsn:

Or is it just not possible?

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RyeBrye:

rkjnsn: ask the list. Seaworld taught me that anything is possible if you believe

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sphery:

So, I'm trying to buy some parts to replace the computer that died on me this week, and newegg goes down just after I choose mobo/CPU, but before I get the RAM.

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wagnerrp:

what died?

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sphery:

it was actually just the CPU fan, but it's an old Sempron system

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wagnerrp:

seems up for me

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sphery:

so I'm just getting a new one

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wagnerrp:

hehe... fan failed? replace the system!

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sphery:

hmmm.... just spins for me

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wagnerrp:

you sound like a Mac user

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sphery:

Well, the old system wasn't too power efficient

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wagnerrp:

that was just the impetus you needed...

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sphery:

and I've been planning on swapping my Athlon XP (89W TDP) mythbackends out for some nice 65W Regor systems (since I can't get 45W), so I'll get the mythbackend, then take the fan from my mbe and put it on the sempron system

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sphery:

turns out the sempron is probably in the 62–64W range

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wagnerrp:

sphery: #6839 was closed because i co-opted some code some unknown person on IRC and added a bunch of crap to it

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wagnerrp:

would a from-scratch rewrite be sufficient?

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wagnerrp:

closed because the code was from an unknown author

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sphery:

Heh, and the Athlon XP 2000+ is 60W and Athlon XP 2400+ is 65–68W

[07:03:39]

sphery:

Yeah, I saw it get closed. I'm not sure--I'd recommend asking danielk

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sphery:

maybe I'll just get a fan... :)

[07:04:22]

sphery:

ah, newegg's back

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wagnerrp:

do you know where mythtv stores MAC addresses (for WOL)?

[07:08:24]

sphery:

which wol?

[07:08:29]

sphery:

the DB wol

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sphery:

or the backend wol

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sphery:

or the new backend wol?

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wagnerrp:

either, any

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sphery:

DB one is in mysql.txt in WOLsqlCommand

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sphery:

(as a command, though, as you've probably guessed)

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wagnerrp:

oh, so you have to set them manually

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** dustybin thinks a mythbackend only box is a 90% waste of a box **

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wagnerrp:

its not something automatically populated

[07:12:11]

wagnerrp:

dustybin: what else would you be doing with it?

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dustybin:

wagnerrp: www.thinkdebian.org

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sphery:

default for WOLsqlCommand="echo 'WOLsqlServerCommand not set"

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wagnerrp:

thats an answer?

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sphery:

which doesn't wake well

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dustybin:

i mean, seriously, how much cpu does a backend use, it cannot be much

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wagnerrp:

ok, so what if after your tuner cards, multiport network cards, and POS equipment, you have run out of expansion slots?

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wagnerrp:

what are you to do?

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dustybin:

pray to jesus

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wagnerrp:

what if your OS of choice does not run tuner cards well?

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dustybin:

linux is my OS of choice

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dustybin:

linuxtv drivers are ok for me

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dustybin:

i am still using my first ever linux server i ever built

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sphery:

wagnerrp: btw, the old backend wol (master backend only) is in mythtv-setup General settings under master backend

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sphery:

don't know where the new ones are (and don't have my dev box/trunk repo running)

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wagnerrp:

was just wondering if machines were supposed to record their MAC to somewhere in the database on boot

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wagnerrp:

usually whenever i want to wake something up, it has been offline long enough that the address is gone from the ARP cache

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wagnerrp:

meaning i have to get onto the DHCP server and pull the address from there

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sphery:

no, we don't get it

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wagnerrp:

i suppose its of no difficulty to make a wrapper script to do that...

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sphery:

I have a dir on my external server with a bunch of .wol files by hostname

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wagnerrp:

yeah, or i could just record them somewhere convenient

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wagnerrp:

im planning my... sixth primary server upgrade in the next couple months

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dustybin:

wagnerrp: ready for .22?

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wagnerrp:

what do you mean?

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dustybin:

maybe your building a VDPAU system?

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dustybin:

actually you said 'server'

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wagnerrp:

primary server... backend... no playback... no real functional video card even

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dustybin:

ok

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sphery:

now I'm considering actually buying a new CPU cooler for $16.50 (including $5.99 shipping after $4.50promo code)

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sphery:

since it seems my backends are not bad for power--I'd only really be saving the GPU power

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wagnerrp:

for $16, youll probably get a better one with your new CPU

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sphery:

yeah, new CPU means new CPU, mobo, ram

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** dustybin looks forward to reading the .22 changelog **

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wagnerrp:

oh, you mean new cooler in place of all that other stuff

[07:25:16]

sphery:

yeah

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sphery:

if I get 2 coolers, it's $29.12

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dustybin:

87 left

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dustybin:

http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/query?status=infon . . . lestone=0.22

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dustybin:

shall i patch them today?

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** dustybin puts on his coding gloves **

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wagnerrp:

sphery: presumably this is going nowhere near a normally occupied area of the house?

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dustybin:

is VDPAU a binary only driver?

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dustybin:

supplied by nvidia?

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wagnerrp:

you use something other than a binary-only driver with mythtv?

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dustybin:

coming to think of things, the whole of nvidia drivers are binary

[07:29:09]

dustybin:

so that means you are relying on nvidia to get it right

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wagnerrp:

and?

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dustybin:

how can one debug VDPAU problems if the driver is closed source?

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wagnerrp:

would you otherwise be going through and debugging their code?

[07:30:27]

dustybin:

am i right in thinking that the stability of VDPAU + mythtv, is all in nvidias hands?

[07:31:41]

wagnerrp:

OMG! what would you do with a faulty core design!

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dustybin:

graphic drivers must be _serious_ complicated creatures

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sphery:

wagnerrp: it can go anywhere--it's a headless server

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wagnerrp:

have to crack open that heat spreader

[07:32:14]

wagnerrp:

and get out your magnifying glass and nanoprobe

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sphery:

So, $16 for 1 HS/Fan or $143 for a new CPU/RAM/Mobo

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dustybin:

are the nvidia drivers coded in C + ASM ?

[07:32:32]

sphery:

er, $143.98

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alakhia:

i upgraded to karmic and now I cannot run mythtv anymore

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alakhia:

i get this error:

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alakhia:

2009-09–26 00:34:35.092 Loading base theme from /usr/share/mythtv/themes/default/base.xml

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alakhia:

2009-09–26 00:34:35.105 Unable to load window 'mainmenu' from menu-ui.xml

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wagnerrp:

sounds like youre trying to use a theme that no longer exists

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alakhia:

any idea what is wrong and how i can fix it?

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wagnerrp:

is karmic tracking -fixes? or trunk?

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kormoc:

trunk

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sphery:

mythfrontend -O Theme=MythCenter

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wagnerrp:

so it probably is some error dealing with the themes getting shifted all over the place in the last couple weeks

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sphery:

yeah, so do what I mentioned, then go to Appearance and change the theme

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alakhia:

sphery: thanks ... that works

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sphery:

now change the theme to fix it

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sphery:

wagnerrp: now I'm leaning toward getting the fan and sticking with the backends I have, and waiting--nay, hoping--for a 45W TDP dual-core...

[07:41:31]

wagnerrp:

oh you dream too small

[07:43:26]

wagnerrp:

(should be hoping for a quad core or something)

[07:45:18]

wagnerrp:

this comes close... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103682

[07:45:38]

wagnerrp:

although 3x the price of the 5050e is a bit much to swallow

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sphery:

Yeah, the Athlon II 605e is supposed to be a 45W quad core

[07:45:47]

sphery:

don't know when it will be out

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sphery:

and if it's really 45W TDP or if that's ADP

[07:46:33]

sphery:

and, yeah, too expensive for me--especially since I don't have any way to use that power (other than SETI)

[07:46:59]

wagnerrp:

here we go... 235e and 240e

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wagnerrp:

new 45W DCs

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sphery:

what?

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sphery:

at newegg?

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wagnerrp:

not yet

[07:47:30]

wagnerrp:

apparently theyre already on shelves in Japan

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sphery:

wonder if shipping from japan would cost me more than $16 (cost of the hs/fan :)

[07:49:05]

wagnerrp:

i had a FXO card and some serial-USB adapters shipped from hong kong

[07:49:08]

wagnerrp:

couple bucks each

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sphery:

AMD's energy efficient CPUs have always carried a price premium over their regular CPUs. In Japan, the 235e is priced from $75–82, the 240e from $86–91, and 605e from $157-$169 (ouch!). ( http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx? . . . adid=2337060 )

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sphery:

the 605e is the quad-core 45W

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wagnerrp:

those are 2.7 and 2.8GHz

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wagnerrp:

so expect ~15–25% better than the 5050e

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wagnerrp:

(from the more modern core)

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sphery:

wow

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sphery:

nice

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dustybin:

image a box with a 45W quad-core and WD green HDs

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wagnerrp:

the 605e is only 2.3GHz

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sphery:

and the part that sucks is I just took all my old computer junk to disposal--and there were some fans I probably could have used...

[07:53:19]

sphery:

and the 45W CPU's should come out this month (meaning in a week?)

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wagnerrp:

sphery: whats interesting is how economies change when youre using per-seat software

[07:54:42]

wagnerrp:

on the machines at work on which we run per-process licenses, its more economical to buy fewer of very expensive high clocked, high power processors

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sphery:

heh, yeah

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alakhia:

0.22 appears more polished in a few places

[07:59:50]

alakhia:

i already got it to crash once

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wombo:

ahh that is good you got it to crash, I am hoping that means you have logged it in trac with an explanation of how you did it?

[08:02:33]

alakhia:

i don't see any way to specify custom command for a movie (e.g. vlc)

[08:02:48]

wagnerrp:

its in the same place it used to be

[08:02:54]

wagnerrp:

however you shouldnt need to

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Gumby`:

does anyone know why (and potentially how to solve) I get a very loud pop whenever I go from livetv to the menu and switching channels (and also various other times)

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Gumby`:

I think its due to the master being muted when the channel is changed but I am unsure how to fix this

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Gumby`:

it only seems to happen when I am using hdmi audio

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sebrock:

wow Graphite looks awesome...

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sebrock:

Hey, is it possible to run 0.22 Frontend using a.021 backend?

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GreyFoxx:

No

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sebrock:

I just read the notes

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sebrock:

when will it be officially released?

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laga:

before 0.23

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GreyFoxx:

It wont be long now. It's in feature free and just bug fixes being commited leading to a release

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sebrock:

who made Graphite Theme, alias?

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GreyFoxx:

iamlindoro

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sebrock:

alright, all hail iamlindoro – awesome theme

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sebrock:

all hail all of you anyway for this great piece of software

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dustybin:

i am so tempted to build a new home server

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dustybin:

but do i really need one?

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oobe:

wierd after installing trunk updates plot info is missing in mythvideo using gallery view and graphite but it still appears in listings and gallery view in other themes

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gbee:

oobe, theme breakage

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oobe:

thats what i was thinking

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oobe:

is there a mailing list for trunk bug reports?

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oobe:

i have a few things

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jduggan:

dustybin: no you dont!

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wombo:

Does anyone know how the ASX streaming is supposed to work? I am trying to open the ASX stream for a recording on Ubuntu 9.04 but it VLC fails to play it

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wombo:

The link in the ASX file does not look very good http://192.168.1.3:80//mythweb/pl/stream/1070/1252854000

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wombo:

ignore that I worked it out, but I have to now find some way of getting it to automatically add my password

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sulx:

wombo: omg you are trying to use my server!! ;)

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wombo:

lol

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sulx:

my backend has same ip ;)

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wombo:

just dont delete Las Vegas until I have finished watching it ok :)

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sulx:

sure

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DonAlex:

Afternoon peeps..

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DonAlex:

Anyone know if it is possible to jump directly to an app without navigating menus?

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janneg:

DonAlex: like mythfrontend mythvideo?

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DonAlex:

Yeah or mythmusic.. or mythradio

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DonAlex:

hell even mythphone come to think of it..

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janneg:

jsut try it

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DonAlex:

be nice to answer a call in one click

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DonAlex:

just try what?

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janneg:

mythfrontend mythvideo

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DonAlex:

oh? I see.. hmm

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DonAlex:

with an already running instance of mythfrontend?

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DonAlex:

would that work?

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DonAlex:

hmmm

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DonAlex:

well kinda works I guess..

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DonAlex:

though not sure how you would quite such an app?

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gbee:

DonAlex: there are jumppoints, maybe that's what you were looking for?

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DonAlex:

Could be.. is that how is knows the path back from an app?

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DonAlex:

just would me nice to press music on the remote and bring up music..

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gbee:

install mythcontrols if you haven't already, then you can bind key presses/combinations to jump directly to different plugins and screens without using the menu

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DonAlex:

ahhhhhhh

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DonAlex:

cool yes that is prolly what I need to work with.

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DonAlex:

Hmm that would be Edit Keys would it , under setup?

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gbee:

amazingly the official docs are light on information about jump points

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gbee:

DonAlex: yes

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DonAlex:

hmm see there is a wiki page about controlling it from a smart phone using mythcontrol..

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tmkt:

http://www.mefeedia.com/entry/mythtv-0-22-gra . . . iew/23367677

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tmkt:

all i can say is wow nice work

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tmkt:

df

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RyeBrye:

yeah, graphite is nice

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RyeBrye:

good work

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gbee:

iamlindoro: noticed an issue with the above video, put template values in <template> instead of <value> so they aren't shown when the textarea is empty

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gbee:

plus it lets you using a default value as well as a template

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Chaz6:

Hi there, I have a DVB-IP gateway (transporting a DVB-T multiplex to multicast/rtp + sap); can I watch and schedule recordings using myth?

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Chaz6:

I couldn't find info on that on the wiki

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Chaz6:

ffmpeg reports the stream like this: http://pastebin.ca/1580294 (and it has 0x10,0x11,0x12,0x14 for EPG/EIT)

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Chaz6:

Aha, I found the wiki page http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/DVB-IPTV

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Chaz6:

So it seems EPG is not supported yet

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sphery:

wombo: See the MythWeb README file, specifically the part "I'm trying to stream audio/video, but it's not working." (which, basically, says it almost definitely won't work).

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iamlindoro:

My commits referencing tickets lately have been painfully slow in updating the ticket status

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sphery:

maybe you're just fixing too many tickets?

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iamlindoro:

ha

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iamlindoro:

you're a funny man

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sphery:

I've had 2 patches for one ticket that I've been trying to decide which to use for 2 weeks, now--giving Trac plenty of time to keep up with me.

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iamlindoro:

Something I just fixed 5–10 minutes ago still hasn't updated the ticket to closed AFAICT

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iamlindoro:

(#7181)

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dustybin:

anybody know whos responsible for that terrible graphite theme?

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iamlindoro:

fixed in 22062

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sphery:

So, I ended up buying a new HS/Fan for my Sempron--not a new computer. It and my 2 backend systems are between 60–70W TDP, so getting a dual-core 65W doesn't help much (other than the fact that it would have an integrated nvidia GPU). But, AMD will have the energy-efficient version of that chip "soon" (this month?) at 45W, so I'm waiting for that.

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** iamlindoro kicks trac **

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iamlindoro:

Maybe it's trying to tell me something

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sphery:

maybe you didn't use ASCII characters in the "fixes #7181"?

[15:55:41]

iamlindoro:

ie "are you *sure* it's fixed?

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sphery:

heh

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iamlindoro:

Hate to ticket spam and close it manually, but...

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iamlindoro:

gbee, actually, thought you might like to know that your 404 code worked properly on that ticket :)

[15:57:25]

iamlindoro:

since it *was* a 404 URL when it was encoded improperly

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gbee:

yeah, it could probably stop processing when it sees the 404 otherwise it still does the image test etc and still complains that it might be a redirect

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iamlindoro:

Hmm, yeah, I'll have a look in a bit

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jduggan:

hmm, nova-s for £23 on ebay

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janneg:

iamlindoro: trac misses closing commit occasionally

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iamlindoro:

janneg, Yeah, I feel like I've seen it a lot lately-- oh well, no harm done

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gbee:

jduggan: hands off!

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jduggan:

gbee: there's 3

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jduggan:

gbee: im going to get one

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jduggan:

:P

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gbee:

iamlindoro: seems I might have accidentally reverted some of your graphite textarea renaming when I moved it, since I issues the local move just before you made that commit

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iamlindoro:

ah

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iamlindoro:

okay, I'll straighten it out

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iamlindoro:

Thanks for letting me know

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gbee:

someone was saying that the plot was missing earlier, so I'm assuming it was my fault

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iamlindoro:

Yes, seems copy was made from an old version

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gbee:

and they mentioned that "length/runtime" which could be made consistent

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gbee:

iamlindoro: can't have been that old, but yeah, seems svn doesn't check that when doing a move :(

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iamlindoro:

Old enough to make me do it twice ;)

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gbee:

sorry :(

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iamlindoro:

Haha, it's okay

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iamlindoro:

I have a local copy that has most of the changes, it's a quick fix

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sphery:

gbee: are the themes in trunk/themes going to trunk/oldthemes, too?

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sphery:

(not that I'm pestering you to do it, but just wondering if that's the plan)

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gbee:

sphery: that's what I was thinking but it depends if Chutt wants to package them, in which case the reason they were originally in themes remains – size

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sphery:

yeah

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sphery:

oldthemes is pretty large, now

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sphery:

maybe we need a lessoldoldthemes for them...

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gbee:

heh, I suspect that Chutt won't be tarballing those this time around

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jduggan:

gbee: got one :)

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jduggan:

£23 delivered, shade more than i wanted to pay but meh

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Chaz6:

My dvb-t receiver was £14 delivered here to denmark, and today i saw the same one going for £8 from HK

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Chaz6:

The former was a uk seller

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jduggan:

gbee, http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Hauppauge-WinTV-NOVA-S- . . . p3286.c0.m14

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gbee:

jduggan: yeah, more than I'd really be happy to pay, but maybe I'll just give in

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gbee:

jduggan: aye, got it up right now

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jduggan:

gbee: i was tempted to snap up all three and ask the seller for a discount :)

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gbee:

jduggan: that's what I did the last time around

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jduggan:

now i need to wait for the S2 to come down in price :P

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jduggan:

gbee: hehe

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gbee:

if only the Satelco actually worked :/

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gbee:

I'd feel less reluctant if I could sell on the Satelco in good conscience, say to someone who doesn't care about BBC HD

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Chaz6:

Well I don't, but unfortunately i dont have a dish+lnb either :/

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Chaz6:

I will get one sooner or late

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Chaz6:

+r

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jduggan:

Freeview power increase from 20,000 W to 200,000 W, 10 times stronger

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jduggan:

hmmmm

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jduggan:

hopefully that will fix my dvb-t issues

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jduggan:

(in 3 years time)!

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jduggan:

well, 2.5

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Chaz6:

I can get a very good signal indoors here

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Chaz6:

Right now there's only 2 multiplexes, and one nationally; there is a new one due to start on 1st November

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gbee:

you know what will happen? A week after I buy this Nova-S BBC HD will move to another mux that the Satelco can actually pick up

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Chaz6:

The 2nd one here is all encrypted :(

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jduggan:

gbee: no doubt

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** gbee hits 'Commit to Buy' **

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gbee:

and feels lousy about it

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Chaz6:

Hey you can always sell it on in the worst case

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gbee:

ah well, I do have the new Quad LNB, maybe there will be times when I want to record BBC HD and ITV HD at the same time

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** gbee realises how ridiculous that sounds **

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jduggan:

shrug

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jduggan:

do you have itv hd workign?

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Chaz6:

I have enough spare bandwidth to send you the full DK-MUX-1 if you want to have a peek :)

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gbee:

yeah

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Chaz6:

You'll need 20Mbs though

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gbee:

works fine with current trunk

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jduggan:

how are you getting listings?

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jduggan:

rt?

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gbee:

rt

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jduggan:

interesting

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gbee:

hd.itv.co.uk

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Chaz6:

http://www.chaz6.com/files/dk-mux-1.html for the rundown

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gbee:

xmltvid, not a url

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jduggan:

yea

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Chaz6:

I can't find any epg tools for linux that can read a multicast ts instead of dvb :/

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Chaz6:

Unfortunately I'm too stupid to write one myself

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Chaz6:

Would be nice to have something for vbi/teletext too

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Chaz6:

VLC can read it at least

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jblack:

Chaz6: You could hire someone...

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yfaykya:

Do I lose any debug info by not running mythfrontend through gdb but enabling unlimted core files? I guess I can run gdb on the core file if there is a seg fault right?

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jblack:

you might or might not. if the stack gets sufficiently corrupted the core can be useless

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yfaykya:

jblack: Ok thanks. Its defo better than nothing though

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wagnerrp:

mike_hurley_1: what codec are you trying to play back?

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sphery:

mike_hurley_1: no, you're missing the fact that the libraries that decode video are basically single-threaded and only one codec is partially supported for multithreaded decoding

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mike_hurley_1:

wagnerrp: mpeg4 ffmpeg is what it's encoded with inside mkv with ac3 audio passed from dvd

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sphery:

all will be improved in the future

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mike_hurley_1:

ok

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wagnerrp:

what kind of mpeg4

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wagnerrp:

ASP or AVC?

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mike_hurley_1:

no idea

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mike_hurley_1:

whatever handbrake means my ffmpeg mpeg4

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sphery:

yeah, only some kinds of MPEG-4 AVC (H.264) support multi-threaded decode right now

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wagnerrp:

probably ASP

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Chaz6:

jblack: any idea what sort of remuneration would be involved with that?

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mike_hurley_1:

actually, that's what i do for sd...the hd stuff i have no idea what codec

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mike_hurley_1:

they were a bunch of wmv which probably doesn't help

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Chaz6:

I'd be after a c++ library and python binding

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mike_hurley_1:

test samples

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wagnerrp:

like sphery said, H264 has the concept of 'slices', where the codec was designed with multithreaded in mind

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wagnerrp:

each slice (one chunk of the screen) gets decoded in a separate thread

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wagnerrp:

but it is reliant on the encoder encoding in slices as well

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wagnerrp:

everything else in mythtv is single threaded

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mike_hurley_1:

is there hope for all the decoders or would that require way too much ram?

[17:10:02]

wagnerrp:

sphery: is the deint in a second thread something added in trunk? or is it in 0.21?

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sphery:

mike_hurley_1: when ffmpeg gets full support for multithreaded decode and when myth resyncs with that multi-thread-capable code, myth will support it. Unfortunately, the ffmpeg stuff isn't ready, yet--it breaks decoding of many videos

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sphery:

wagnerrp: trunk only

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wagnerrp:

mike_hurley_1: mythtv uses ffmpeg as its decoding library, and currently there is an experimental ffmpeg-mt branch of ffmpeg that allows multithreaded encode/decode on eventually all formats

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mike_hurley_1:

i'd imaging you could have threads start from different marker frames but i'd also image that eating a lot of ram to hold the data

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wagnerrp:

mike_hurley_1: that would be 'I-frames' or 'keyframes', and i do not believe that is how ffmpeg-mt is set up

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sphery:

see ffmpeg-mt (but note that installing it won't help Myth, and "backporting" it into Myth will break Myth because it doesn't work--one of the devs already tried it, and it's not ready)

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wagnerrp:

once that gets merged back into mainline ffmpeg, it will probably be sufficient reason for another ffmpeg sync

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mike_hurley_1:

do you know if it's an active development path or is it something being played with in the background to their normal release schedule?

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wagnerrp:

at which point you either have to run trunk, or wait until the next release

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wagnerrp:

that aside, the Atom is probably the ONLY processor that could really make use of multithreaded decode of anything but h264

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wagnerrp:

all the other codecs are relatively simple to decode, such that any multicore processor probably has the power to decode it single threaded

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mike_hurley_1:

which is what i have...fortunately it supports decoding all but one of my 720p samples

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mike_hurley_1:

and may become less of an issue if that atom/ion kit becomes the dominate htpc atom platform...i've read good things about it

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mike_hurley_1:

ok guys, thanks

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wagnerrp:

the ION has support for mpeg1, mpeg2, vc-1, and h264

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wagnerrp:

it will not help you if you dont let me complete my sentence

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sphery:

heh

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sphery:

man on a mission, it seems

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sphery:

and mission was complete before you knew it

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wagnerrp:

i dont quite understand it

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wagnerrp:

i buy games on Steam without a second thought

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wagnerrp:

but i cant bring myself to buy a music download

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wagnerrp:

or a movie download

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sphery:

trust in the provider--and how long they'll be around?

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wagnerrp:

even if i knew they were DRM free and could be transferred anywhere i like

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wagnerrp:

(which the games on steam are not)

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Chaz6:

RIP allofmp3 :( they offered WAV and FLAC

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sphery:

so it's just wanting that physical disc?

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Chaz6:

I bought a few albums before they went

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wagnerrp:

they were also no better than just downloading illegally

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wagnerrp:

(considering you were downloading illegally)

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Chaz6:

Debatable

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wagnerrp:

from what i understand, they had no contract allowing them to sell you that content

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sphery:

well, at least they made people feel like it might be legit--you know, placebos are really effective, sometimes

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Chaz6:

There was no conviction against them

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wagnerrp:

because theyre in Russia, no one over there cares

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Chaz6:

Sony et al dropped suit

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sphery:

because they died

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wagnerrp:

they realized getting the site shutdown was the best win they could expect

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sphery:

(not sony, of course)

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Chaz6:

I also bought from UK sites, and i have my fair share of hard plastic

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Chaz6:

I only used them for things i couldnt find elsewhere

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sphery:

I love how one arm of Time Warner (cable) is saying, "extremely fast downloads of music and movies," while the other is getting all spun up about the downloading of music and movies

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wagnerrp:

HAHAHA, they were sued for more than Russia's GDP

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sphery:

nice

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wagnerrp:

sphery: theres some Austrailan ISP getting sued over that currently, they recently started offering cap-free internet from 8pm to 8am

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Chaz6:

That's just... whacked

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Chaz6:

If they came to Scandanavia their heads would blow off

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wagnerrp:

only daytime browsing counts towards their (very limited) bandwidth caps

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Chaz6:

I have lived in australia so I know of the woes of telstra

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Chaz6:

The new PPC-1 cable is currently carrying test traffic, should be live very soon

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Chaz6:

Hopefully it will let more isps offer unlimited plans

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sphery:

yeah, by the other, I meant the label side of TW--the ones who feel that all their stuff is getting stolen

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wagnerrp:

so the limitation was just one due to lack of upstream bandwidth via undersea cable?

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tzanger:

good afternoon

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Chaz6:

The problem is there is no competition, it is the first cable not owned by a carrier majority

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tzanger:

I have a working frontend/backend setup (two different machines)

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tzanger:

I am trying to add a second backend (slave) which has a pcie tuner (master does not have pcie)

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tzanger:

they seem to connect

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Chaz6:

Their international rates are enormous

[17:30:19]

tzanger:

the master sees the channels I scanned and so on on the slave

[17:30:32]

tzanger:

but the frontend can't seem to tune anything on the slave backend's tuner

[17:30:44]

tzanger:

now, I installed the frontend software on the salve backend as well just to test

[17:30:46]

sphery:

tzanger: sounds like broken video sources config

[17:30:47]

tzanger:

and it can tune just fine

[17:30:54]

tzanger:

sphery: well that's just it

[17:31:00]

tzanger:

the master backend does not see the sources on the slave backend

[17:31:02]

sphery:

tzanger: you need to have a separate video source for each separate group of channels

[17:31:22]

sphery:

if the master and the slave tuners all tune the exact same channels, you have only one video source

[17:31:26]

tzanger:

sphery: I'm not sure I understand. I have a tuner on the slave and it has its own channel group

[17:31:28]

wagnerrp:

you are hitting the button or menu option to change over to the tuner on the slave?

[17:31:31]

sphery:

channels are defined by the video source, so you don't rescan

[17:31:33]

tzanger:

sphery: no, slave is ATSC, master is DVB-S

[17:31:45]

wagnerrp:

huh? how did you pull that off?

[17:32:08]

tzanger:

wagnerrp: master backend has a DVB-S card in it, slave backend has an ATSC card in it

[17:32:26]

tzanger:

master does not see slave tuner though, and slave does not see master tuner

[17:32:33]

sphery:

then if they are legitimately 2 different video sources and properly configured, it's likely what wagnerrp said--you're not switching to the other tuner

[17:32:47]

sphery:

and are just noticing that you don't see the other's channels in the browse list

[17:32:53]

sphery:

use the EPG to change

[17:33:16]

tzanger:

sphery: the front end saw both channels but I could not watch live tv from the slave tuner

[17:33:26]

tzanger:

should the master backend not see the tuners on itself and all slaves?

[17:33:28]

wagnerrp:

what do you mean the master does not see the slave tuner?

[17:33:30]

sphery:

so, I'm guessing you're getting like 3 channels on that DVB-S, right? NASA and maybe a couple of shopping channels?

[17:33:40]

wagnerrp:

the backends all record on their own tuners

[17:34:20]

tzanger:

sphery: actually I'm not tuned to dish or expressvu satellites, I'm doign actual honest to goodness legitimate fta

[17:34:38]

tzanger:

(well will be, I hear that HIST and DOCU are clear on 101, but haven't actually got the dish up yet)

[17:34:51]

wagnerrp:

the master will make a slave's tuners as 'remote' on the status page, but the slave will never make any mention of the master's tuners

[17:34:52]

tzanger:

wagnerrp: the master backend does not see the slave backend's tuners

[17:34:56]

tzanger:

shoudl they not be listed in the tuner list?

[17:35:01]

wagnerrp:

and thats as far as the two mix

[17:35:07]

tzanger:

wagnerrp: I'm not even getting that far

[17:35:15]

tzanger:

I see no remote tuners on the master's tuner list (mythtv-setup)

[17:35:22]

wagnerrp:

you have all three systems running on the same database?

[17:35:45]

wagnerrp:

if you go into the backend logs, you see mention of the slave system logging into the master backend as a slave backend

[17:35:45]

sphery:

tzanger: yeah, I was just wondering what specific channels were really FTA in the US... That was really a question about what you found. Guess I'll have to wait to find out, though. :)

[17:35:53]

tzanger:

wagnerrp: absolutely yes. the slave backend setup has 127.0.0.1 listed as its own DB, and then the master DB is my master DB's IP

[17:36:02]

tzanger:

sphery: yeah, I'm honestly not caring too much, it'd be nice if I could find something

[17:36:08]

wagnerrp:

erm... what?

[17:36:16]

wagnerrp:

the slave is running its own database?

[17:36:26]

sphery:

tzanger: mythtv-setup won't show you the capture cards on other hosts

[17:36:32]

sphery:

you only see those on the current host

[17:36:34]

sphery:

so that's fine

[17:36:43]

tzanger:

wagnerrp: mythtv-setup asks for a "local" db and a master IP if one exist, or 127.0.0.1 if not

[17:36:48]

tzanger:

sphery: really? ok. hm

[17:36:52]

wagnerrp:

NO

[17:36:53]

sphery:

mythbackend status page ( http://backendhostname:6544/ ) should show all the tuners

[17:37:06]

wagnerrp:

127.0.0.1 can ONLY be used if you only have one single machine

[17:37:26]

sphery:

right, no 127.0.0.1 anywhere in a multi-system setup

[17:37:28]

tzanger:

sphery: mythtv-setup will not show input connections for other backends either?

[17:37:32]

sphery:

and only one database, no matter what

[17:37:44]

tzanger:

wagnerrp: ok, let me change that, I thought it looked a little funny

[17:37:48]

sphery:

tzanger: right, because input connections are based on the cards (that you can't see)

[17:38:03]

wagnerrp:

when you say 'own DB' and 'master DB', are you saying you have two databases running? or did you mean backend?

[17:38:29]

tzanger:

wagnerrp: mythtv-setup on the slave, general settings

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tzanger:

local backend ip address: 127.0.0.1, and then master backend address 192.168.77.4

[17:38:47]

wagnerrp:

you must set the same master IP on each backend

[17:38:53]

tzanger:

wagnerrp: yes I definitely ahve that

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sphery:

tzanger: can't use 127.0.0.1 for local

[17:39:00]

tzanger:

and I can see the master/slave communicating

[17:39:01]

sphery:

must use a real IP

[17:39:03]

tzanger:

sphery: ok

[17:39:06]

wagnerrp:

this is a global setting, so if youre properly using the same database, you only set it once

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tzanger:

will change that, moment

[17:39:15]

tzanger:

wagnerrp: yes, it seemed to find it automatically

[17:39:50]

wagnerrp:

the local backend IP is the one the local backend communicates on

[17:39:59]

tzanger:

wagnerrp: ah, that was probably my whole problem

[17:40:00]

wagnerrp:

s/communicates/listens/

[17:40:08]

tzanger:

local backend IP shoudl be my eth0 IP then

[17:40:08]

wagnerrp:

if youre only listening on localhost

[17:40:22]

wagnerrp:

remote frontends cannot connect to it to receive video feeds

[17:40:40]

tzanger:

aha that was the entire probelm then I bet

[17:42:42]

tzanger:

just rescanning channels since I'd deleted the video source :-)

[17:43:29]

tzanger:

the only ATSC I have is 50 miles away, but after changing out the shit balun on the antenna with a $2 one and using a good (cm-7777) amp, I'm getting acceptable results

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tzanger:

wagnerrp / sphery: that seemed to fix me right up. thank you very much.

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tzanger:

actually I had a question asked of me the other day, and I'm not sure of the answer. Does mythtv have a youtube or other video streaming plugin?

[17:58:31]

petre:

I'm running mythbuntu jaunty (9.04) with a hauppauge 2250 dual tuner card. I had gotten it working a couple months ago using the instructions at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=942403

[17:59:19]

petre:

But then it stopped recording shows. I think the problem was caused by me by updating the kernel somewhere along the way.

[17:59:58]

petre:

Looking in the log I was seeing "Starting up as the master server.

[17:59:58]

petre:

ERROR: no valid capture cards are defined in the database."

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sphery:

tzanger: no--closest thing is MythTube plugin, which is a plugin on a ticket, but it no longer works (and may not be fixable due to ToS/legal reasons)

[18:01:20]

petre:

Fine, I thought, I'll recompile the drivers with the new kernel. So, I did, although I used the newer 27223 drivers as suggested on page 5 of the URL I posted above.

[18:01:32]

sphery:

there's also another fork of Myth (Heliocreek) that provides some of that functionality, but it has issues

[18:01:57]

sphery:

tzanger: the best approach is to start a browser and browse the site

[18:02:10]

tzanger:

hmm

[18:02:14]

tzanger:

I'm gonna just stick to myth :-)

[18:02:20]

tzanger:

it's worked well for me over the last 5 years

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sphery:

petre: sounds like you need to delete and re-create your capture cards--see http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/264034#264034

[18:04:15]

petre:

Everything compiles, lsmod shows the driver is loaded, but I'm still seeing the "No valid capture cards" in the log

[18:04:19]

sphery:

tzanger: I stand corrected--yours is the best approach: don't use YouTube/Hulu/etc. :)

[18:04:32]

sphery:

petre: read what I said...

[18:04:43]

tzanger:

haha :-) I don't like them, but the kids/wife would like the functionality

[18:04:45]

sphery:

it's myth config that's likely broken

[18:04:53]

petre:

sphery, ok, I'll try the 'delete all capture cards'; tx

[18:07:03]

tzanger:

bah, now it's saying 401 unauthorized for my schedulesdirect account

[18:07:27]

sphery:

mythfilldatabase?

[18:07:34]

sphery:

if so, fix up your video source

[18:07:34]

wagnerrp:

has anyone used the onscreen keyboard on trunk recently?

[18:07:44]

sphery:

not I

[18:07:52]

sphery:

tzanger: is this trunk?

[18:08:00]

tzanger:

sphery: no no

[18:08:05]

sphery:

if so, you may have to work around what might be an issue

[18:08:19]

sphery:

good, then fixing the suorce should work

[18:08:36]

tzanger:

nevermind I see it now

[18:08:38]

tzanger:

wrong username

[18:08:39]

wagnerrp:

granted, im running an old version about 160 commits out of head

[18:08:47]

wagnerrp:

but the OSK is unusable

[18:08:59]

wagnerrp:

'space' brings it up, but it is not given focus

[18:09:08]

petre:

sphery, I deleted all capture cards after deleting all video sources, as instructed

[18:09:26]

sphery:

wagnerrp: I think iamlindoro saw similar issues with Qt dialogs

[18:09:47]

sphery:

petre: now recreate them

[18:09:54]

wagnerrp:

well thats odd...

[18:10:08]

wagnerrp:

'space' on the frontend socket brings it up without focus

[18:10:09]

sphery:

changing the drivers may have changed the cards enough that you needed to recreate them in myth

[18:10:23]

petre:

but when I go to create the new capture card, I select DVB DTV capture card (v3), but in the DVB Device number, nothing appears

[18:10:23]

wagnerrp:

spacebar on the frontend directly just inserts a space into the editline

[18:10:36]

petre:

I think there is supposed to be a 0 and 1

[18:10:41]

petre:

(dual tuner)

[18:10:47]

petre:

but it's blank.

[18:11:19]

wagnerrp:

i really dont know how to bring up the OSK

[18:11:46]

sphery:

petre: hmmm... in that case, there may be something at a lower-than-myth level causing issues

[18:12:10]

sphery:

wagnerrp: I think it used to be SELECT

[18:12:27]

sphery:

though that should mean that space would do it

[18:12:54]

petre:

hmm, earlier I ran lsmod and saw the driver listed, but I don't see it now

[18:13:13]

wagnerrp:

'enter' remotely, and the enter button locally, both bring up the OSK

[18:13:24]

wagnerrp:

locally, it works, remotely, it doesnt have focus

[18:14:17]

wagnerrp:

ill have to check that against a more recent revision, and put up a ticket

[18:15:00]

olejl:

petre: I had a similar problem a while back

[18:15:19]

wagnerrp:

im thinking its the fe socket triggering functions directly, rather than going through the same interface as the keyboard and LIRC

[18:15:29]

olejl:

some other driver module was loaded instead of my dvb module

[18:15:30]

wagnerrp:

and its just triggering them wrong/old

[18:15:31]

tzanger:

hmm, 100mbit ethernet should be able to handle ATSC channels

[18:15:43]

wagnerrp:

tzanger: yes, ATSC peaks out at under 20mbps

[18:15:44]

olejl:

I had to blacklist that driver and everything was back to normal

[18:16:01]

tzanger:

wonder why it's chugging

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sphery:

wagnerrp: you mean the telnet control thing?

[18:23:35]

sphery:

if so, I'm not surprised it doesn't work

[18:23:46]

sphery:

as it is--like you said--a whole different approach to sending the keys

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olejl:

petre: http://lists.zerezo.com/video4linux/msg24630.html <--- This was my issue and how it was solved

[18:29:57]

petre:

olejl, were you not seeing the driver listed?

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olejl:

petre: the wrong driver was loaded

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petre:

olejl, oh, I see now

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petre:

hmm, the only thing that looks like the 2250 when I run lspci is this, which doesn't seem correct:

[18:34:37]

petre:

02:00.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors Device 7164 (rev 81)

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petre:

ok, I guess that's it, matches what's in dmesg

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olejl:

petre: seems similar to what I get: 05:01.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7146 (rev 01=

[18:36:36]

olejl:

*)

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gizmobay:

does anyone know how to get synaesthesia working with mythmusic in trunk? Mine just shows a black screen.

[18:40:43]

petre:

I don't think the wrong driver is being loaded; dmesg *looks* normal:

[18:40:46]

petre:

http://www.pastebot.net/paste/s3c7ZbG1mV1/

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gbee:

gizmobay: mushrooms

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gizmobay:

lol

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gizmobay:

where can I get them

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Chaz6:

Hey, Theora 1.1 just got released

[18:43:28]

gizmobay:

is there a -dev package I needed when I compiled?

[18:46:22]

wagnerrp:

sphery: yeah, the socket interface

[18:48:54]

petre:

ok, using the old drivers DOES work, the card is listed as are the two DVB Device numbers.

[18:50:28]

petre:

It seems the newer drivers from Hauppauge, as listed in the message from juicedM3 at the bottom of http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=942403&page=4 do NOT work

[18:51:44]

wagnerrp:

drivers from hauppauge?

[18:52:08]

wagnerrp:

i was unaware hauppauge has ever released linux drivers for its products

[18:52:22]

tzanger:

thanks again for the help guys; very excellent support. I love this system.

[18:52:41]

iamlindoro:

they don't/haven't

[18:53:24]

iamlindoro:

The referenced files in that post aren't drivers, they're firmware

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petre:

wagnerrp, they haven't, but their windows drivers can be used to build the linux drivers

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iamlindoro:

erm, not exactly

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wagnerrp:

firmware, not drivers

[18:54:13]

iamlindoro:

the frimware can be extracted from the windows installer

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petre:

my mistake; yes, firmware

[18:54:25]

wagnerrp:

its microcode that runs on the tuner card itself

[18:54:42]

petre:

but using the newer firmware does not appear to work, for me anyway

[18:54:48]

petre:

using the older firmware does

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wagnerrp:

they may have tweaked the device interface, such that the old drivers no longer communicate properly with it

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petre:

What does 'Perform EIT scan' do?

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wagnerrp:

tells mythtv to use that tuner for EIT scanning

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Chaz6:

wagnerrp: oh, so it can read epg from streams?

[18:57:25]

petre:

Is EIT scanning where it queries the channel for listing info?

[18:57:28]

wagnerrp:

when the tuner is idle, mythtv will sweep the available multiplexes for EPG data

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Chaz6:

wagnerrp: okay, the wiki page said it couldn't do that, maybe outdated

[18:57:56]

jblack:

Of course, by extracting the firmware, you're performing copyright infringement. So it's not recommended.

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wagnerrp:

not so much 'cant' as much as 'shouldnt'

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wagnerrp:

jblack: how is that copyright infringement?

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Chaz6:

wagnerrp: maybe that's just for iptv streams

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Chaz6:

I got my firmware off the supplied driver disk

[18:59:25]

Chaz6:

It's kinda necessary to use the receiver :)

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wagnerrp:

Chaz6, petre: youre talking about the HVR-2250, which is an ATSC tuner

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wagnerrp:

ATSC broadcasts typically have very limited EPG data

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wagnerrp:

which is why you shouldnt use it

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Chaz6:

wagnerrp: i was hoping to read epg from a dvb-iptv multiplex

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Chaz6:

No atsc here

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wagnerrp:

DVB-IPTV.... that doesnt sound right....

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petre:

wagnerrp, that's what I was thinking that someone had told me earlier, that it's better to use the SD info

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Chaz6:

There is a dump of the eit stream http://www.chaz6.com/files/dk-mux-1.html

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wagnerrp:

if its DVB, then it is a modulated signal

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wagnerrp:

if it is IPTV, then it is by definition not DVB

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Chaz6:

I have no problems receiving it, my gateway dumps the whole multiplex onto the lan

[19:02:17]

wagnerrp:

you just have a TS stream

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Chaz6:

So it is different

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Chaz6:

This is what i get from tsreader: http://www.chaz6.com/files/epg-grid.png

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petre:

What do I need to watch the ASX stream from the web interface to myth? I'm running Ubuntu on the client end.

[19:35:54]

petre:

Firefox launches Totem movie player, but then I get a 'location not found' error

[19:36:24]

petre:

BTW, thanks everyone for the tips; my mythbuntu backend is working properly once again.

[19:37:04]

sphery:

petre: sett the MythWeb README, specifically, "Q: I'm trying to stream audio/video, but it's not working."

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sphery:

see

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petre:

sphery, ok, thanks

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sphery:

though if you don't have authentication/https getting in the way, it's a problem with your filesystem config

[19:37:56]

sphery:

asx just gives the link to the actual file

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sphery:

and the movie player has to read the file directly

[19:38:22]

sphery:

link = not through the web interface

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petre:

sphery, I did what the README suggested, and now when I click on the link the stream starts but then it just hangs

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petre:

so, progress, but a new problem

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petre:

nm, problem appears to be, as always, with Totem; works fine in vlc. Totem never seems to work for me.

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Led-Hed:

I've had 2 Firewire HD STB's working flawlessly on my backend for a few months now. Then the other day one just flat out refused to get LAM lock, the other is still fine. Any idea what might cause this?

[20:22:38]

Dagmar:

Hardware failure, obviously

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Led-Hed:

I swapped out the STB for a new one (same model) no luck. Still no LAM lock

[20:22:51]

Dagmar:

Undo you last software change then

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_ben:

Yo

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Led-Hed:

Dagmar, no software changes.

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Led-Hed:

havent touched the Backend in months

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messerting:

Led-Hed: your provider might be doing something funny with the stream

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jduggan:

encrypted?

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messerting:

here in norway, some guys need to put the smartcard into the original box once a month

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jduggan:

have you swapped the boxes between feeds?

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Led-Hed:

jduggan, not encrypted. Other STB is working fine.

[20:24:28]

jduggan:

Led-Hed: other box is fine in your feed that doesnt work?

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jduggan:

as in cable feed

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Led-Hed:

jduggan, swapped cables

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Led-Hed:

still no LAM

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Led-Hed:

even swapped Firewire cables and ports

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ekristen:

0.21.20080304–1 ... does anyone know if the rss is built into mythweb in this version? or only in svn trunk

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Led-Hed:

I wonder if a Fireware update could have caused it.?

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Dagmar:

You just finished saying that you didn't change anything

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Led-Hed:

Can Cable Co's push Firmware?

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jduggan:

yes

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Led-Hed:

Dagmar, I didnt. Wondering if Cable Co may have.

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Dagmar:

Oh wait thse are over firewire to STBs

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Dagmar:

Yeah, switch the two boxes

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Led-Hed:

Dagmar, I did switch them. Same result.

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Dagmar:

Same result as WHAT

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Led-Hed:

SA3250 works fine. SA4250HDC no LAM

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Dagmar:

That doesn't mean anything to me

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jduggan:

Led-Hed: and the good box works fine on both cables right?

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Dagmar:

DId the problem follow the STB that's not working or didn't it?

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Led-Hed:

swapped cables and the 4250 still doesnt get lock

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Dagmar:

If the problem moved with the STB, then something's changed with that STB

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Led-Hed:

jduggan, yes

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Dagmar:

Period, end of diagnosis. Time to call the cable company and ask them why they turned off your firewire port.

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jduggan:

dodgy stbs then, maybe fw got pushed

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Led-Hed:

Dagmar, the only thing that could have changed is if the Cable Co did it.

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Dagmar:

Led-Hed: I'm going to ignore you saying that since you didn't answer the straightforward question

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Led-Hed:

Dagmar, Firewire ports work on the bad box. I can change channels, and plugreport shows that its connected.

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Led-Hed:

Myth even tries to tune.

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ekristen:

anyone know how to get RSS in mythweb?

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Led-Hed:

Dagmar, sorry I must have missed your straight forward question. :)

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ekristen:

seems that the rss.php file on the wiki doesn't work

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Dagmar:

So, if the problem follows the box, it's the box

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Dagmar:

Period.

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Dagmar:

Call the cable company and tell them it's stopped working after their firmware update, or it's just died

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Dagmar:

...cuz you know, a cable company disabling firewire output in order to screw over customers... UNHEARD OF

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Dagmar:

THat would NEVER HAPPEN

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Led-Hed:

Dagmar, I tried the "just died" bit. They swapped it for a new one. Still no lock

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Dagmar:

Surely such things are class-A felonies

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Dagmar:

No wait

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Dagmar:

If nothing changed on your config then the cable company lied

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Dagmar:

One of you is mistaken or lying, and I don't think you're lying

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ekristen:

guess not then eh

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Led-Hed:

maybe I can get them to give me an old 3250.

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Led-Hed:

though I'll miss the HDMI

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Dagmar:

It might be worth it to walk through all the basic steps one would do to get a new unit working

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Led-Hed:

Dagmar, I did.

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Dagmar:

Testing priming the firewire, etc etc

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Led-Hed:

yup

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Dagmar:

It's more likely that they just did a firmware update that broke everything

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Led-Hed:

humm. I guess I'll have to call them. Not looking forward to the call.

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ekristen:

RSS anyone

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Dagmar:

Oh

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Dagmar:

Led-Hed: Just remember that whatever appearance they give, the first tier technical support people won't know their asses from a hole in the ground, let alone anything about firmware updates. *Regardless* of what they may tell you.

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iamlindoro:

ekristen, Just wait another week or two for .22, which includes mythweb RSS

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ekristen:

couple weeks eg

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ekristen:

eh

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messerting:

So, I had a crash, and things was torned down unclean, and now I get stuff like "ERROR when trying to delete file: /GetPlaybackURL/UNABLE/TO/FIND/LOCAL/FILE/ON/medusa/1147_20090926084856.mpg. File doesn't exist. Database metadata will not be removed." in the logs

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messerting:

is there a cleanup script somewhere?

[20:47:10]

ekristen:

might be able to do that

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jduggan:

week or two?

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jduggan:

oh man

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jduggan:

:o

[20:51:32]

oobe:

myth.find_orphans.pl will get rid of any files that do not exist

[20:52:26]

oobe:

and to get rid of entry's of files that exist in database but not on disk try manually creating the file

[20:52:40]

oobe:

then deleteing it in the recordings menu

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oobe:

i.e touch /path/to/1147_20090926084856.mpg

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oobe:

*myth.find_orphans.pl will get rid of any files that do not exist *in the database*

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iamlindoro:

find orphans will do both the DB metadata and the files

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iamlindoro:

--dodbdelete and --dodelete, respectively

[20:55:18]

iamlindoro:

not that you should use either command the first time

[20:55:27]

iamlindoro:

definitely want to run it without either to see what it plans to delete

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oobe:

nice work on graphite iamlindoro

[20:56:35]

iamlindoro:

thank you

[20:56:49]

oobe:

i been meaning to say how much i like it

[20:56:54]

sphery:

also, might want to run optimize_mythdb.pl or the MythWeb Repair Database

[20:57:41]

jduggan:

ive seen shots of improvements of the ui in trunk/.22, but is it lighter on hardware? or is it very much theme dependant ?

[20:59:02]

iamlindoro:

largely theme dependent-- but expecting that myth will perpetually support ancient hardware is unrealistic

[20:59:12]

iamlindoro:

ie IMHO we shouldn't even be catering to VIA users any more

[20:59:26]

iamlindoro:

and PVR-350 output support should be ripped out

[21:00:19]

oobe:

http://localhost/mythweb/settings/database

[21:00:23]

iamlindoro:

And if the 2–3 of us writing themes continue to do so only caring about our own hardware, I expect I'll get my wish :)

[21:00:29]

jduggan:

yea im not suggesting to still cater for old hardware, but i run a frontend on an atom 230 with 512mb ram the lighter themes in .21 run just fine, is .22 going to be a bit slower on the same hardware

[21:01:31]

iamlindoro:

Have no problem with folks who want to run underpowered Atom based hardware, I just won't be making any changes in my themes to support those... well, IMO poor... hardware choices

[21:01:55]

jduggan:

hehe

[21:02:41]

oobe:

i noticed the last few revisions of trunk mythvideo would use up to 1GB of ram when idle in gallery using graphite but this seems to be fixed now

[21:03:24]

oobe:

is there somthing that got fixed or was it my system

[21:04:05]

jduggan:

the atom is a bedroom fe in a dvd player formfactor case, its completely passive with no drives, dc psu and is silent, its the only way im allowed a fe in the bedroom =]

[21:04:43]

jduggan:

it was a better choice than a via setup imo, i couldnt get away with much more in such a slim case and still keep it silent

[21:05:05]

jduggan:

unless i start hiding the fe away

[21:05:24]

jduggan:

unfortunately i rent the property and running such cables through walls isnt an option

[21:06:25]

jduggan:

i can upgrade the memory, was more cpu grunt i was worrying about

[21:06:42]

_ben:

thos atom ion things look nice

[21:06:45]

_ben:

those*

[21:07:08]

jduggan:

im still sceptical of vdpau

[21:07:15]

_ben:

why?

[21:07:33]

jduggan:

ive tested on my workstation

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jduggan:

mixed results

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_ben:

i'm trying not to buy new stuff after my sucess with vdpau :)

[21:08:38]

jduggan:

i think id rather not solely rely on gpu decoding and have some reasonable cpu

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messerting:

oobe:, iamlindoro: thanks will try

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jduggan:

_ben: having said that, the price is reducing quite a bit, if they get closer to the £100 mark for the 330, its quite a cheap fe

[21:13:05]

jduggan:

ebuyer have the 330 for 125

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_ben:

got a link?

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_ben:

ah, got it

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_ben:

125 quid is pretty good tbh seeing you are getting a board, processor, graphics and wireless

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jduggan:

wireless is nothing for me, i wouldnt use

[21:25:51]

jduggan:

yes you get board/processor/graphics

[21:25:56]

jduggan:

but at that price point

[21:26:15]

jduggan:

you can get a 2.6ghz core 2 duo and a board with hdmi/dvi

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jduggan:

and you dont have to worry about vdpau

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_ben:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php . . . ;subcat=1436

[21:26:57]

_ben:

looks cool

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_ben:

and yes, wireless is a ipta

[21:27:10]

_ben:

pita

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_ben:

(when you just want to roll into bed and watch a film and the damn thing won't work)

[21:29:03]

_ben:

think i might get that asus

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_ben:

just need to decide on a case now

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jduggan:

cases are a sore point for me, i hate spending money on a case

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wagnerrp:

depends on the amount of money youre talking about

[21:36:06]

wagnerrp:

im perfectly content spending $100-$150 on a nice case

[21:36:34]

jduggan:

there are not many media cases in the UK for <£50

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sid3windr:

:)

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sid3windr:

duh

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jduggan:

which are what id consider nice

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jduggan:

and anything more i refuse to pay :)

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_ben:

heh

[21:37:39]

_ben:

I like the look of the silverstone ML02

[21:37:44]

_ben:

160 squid tho :/

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jduggan:

yea i refuse to buy a case that costs more than board/cpu/ram/gpu

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_ben:

but when you think about it, it's protecting your investment :p

[21:38:27]

jduggan:

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/135498# <- looks like it could be ok

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wagnerrp:

jduggan: i expect a nice case to last through several iterations of board/cpu/ram/gpu

[21:39:11]

jduggan:

wagnerrp: thats a valid point

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sid3windr:

my case is at its second set of contents :)

[21:39:51]

wagnerrp:

i expect to get pissed off at a cheap case, and junk it before the end of the usable life of the rest of the hardware

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_ben:

jduggan: would you pay http://www.ebuyer.com/product/167870# ?

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wagnerrp:

that case is just too large

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wagnerrp:

both of 'em

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_ben:

Yeah

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_ben:

hence me looking at the ML02 :p

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jduggan:

_ben: not on an unknown like that

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jduggan:

_ben: if i were to spend 75< it would be on something like a silverstone

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wagnerrp:

_ben: is the ML02 the pizza-box size one, with the flip down front panel?

[21:41:20]

_ben:

Yep

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_ben:

http://www.silverstonetek.com/products/p_spec . . . amp;area=usa

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wagnerrp:

no, thats not what i was thinking of

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jduggan:

i want a case about 2U in size

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jduggan:

hehe

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wagnerrp:

ah, i was thinking about the LC19

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messerting:

Hm, makes my Antec Fusion look so 1980's...

[21:43:12]

_ben:

nothing wrong with the '80's :p

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messerting:

:D

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jduggan:

oh

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jduggan:

also ideally in a case, id consider paying more for build in ir receiver, which i could plug into a serial/usb header

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jduggan:

built*

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wagnerrp:

i dont understand why no one has made a case with an integrated heatsink

[21:44:31]

wagnerrp:

i mean your standard AV component width is 17–18"

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wagnerrp:

while something like the LC19 is only 15" wide

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wagnerrp:

why not just cram a GPU-style heatsink in the extra width

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_ben:

guess that lc19 doesn't have a remote?

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iamlindoro:

Heh: 819G /MythMedia/movies/Television/Lost/

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wagnerrp:

with a nice big slow squirrel-cage blower

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iamlindoro:

Television on Blu Ray will require many drives ;)

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jduggan:

wth

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jduggan:

is that your media?

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iamlindoro:

Yes

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wagnerrp:

thats just one show, five seasons

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jduggan:

819gb of ripped lost bluerays?

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iamlindoro:

Yep

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jduggan:

jeebus

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jduggan:

dood

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iamlindoro:

Actually, still have three episodes left to rip ;)

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jduggan:

how much disk space have you got :D

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iamlindoro:

so + 30GB

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iamlindoro:

A lot :)

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_ben:

:)

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iamlindoro:

22 TB ATM

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jduggan:

i thought i had a alot

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_ben:

you have some crazy zfs setup?

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jduggan:

iamlindoro: nice

[21:48:08]

iamlindoro:

nope, just plain ol' XFS

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messerting:

ideally, one should also store all transponder streams by default, so one could just go back in time and jump the channels any given day

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jduggan:

i get disks for free

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jduggan:

various sizes

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jduggan:

but i have no where near that

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jduggan:

:P

[21:48:49]

jduggan:

your power bill must be huge in storage alone

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jduggan:

=]

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_ben:

i don't bother ripping my dvds

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messerting:

I bother ripping others dvds..

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wagnerrp:

jduggan: idle spindown?

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jduggan:

wagnerrp: sure, but if its one array, spinning up all those disks.. :)

[21:57:29]

wagnerrp:

and are run for all of what? a couple hours a day?

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wagnerrp:

i imagine recordings are on separate disks

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_ben:

so iamlindoro – what kinda case are all these disks in?

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wagnerrp:

http://img.donanimhaber.com/image.aspx/upfile . . . C7E850AF.jpg

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_ben:

nice

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wagnerrp:

i dont know if thats the exact case, lian-li has a dozen or so variants with the same basic internal structure

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iamlindoro:

ha, you remembered

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_ben:

is that a cooler master ?

[22:01:02]

iamlindoro:

yes, that's the case (V2000)

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iamlindoro:

Lian Li

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_ben:

crazy :)

[22:01:57]

jduggan:

http://www.acme-technology.co.uk/images/ACM316open.jpg

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wagnerrp:

there are various different colors, (un)perforated materials, different front panels with[out] doors

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_ben:

we use these at work: http://blogs.sun.com/mac/resource/_Thumper.jpg

[22:03:09]

wagnerrp:

but they all have the 12-disk bay in the bottom of the case

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_ben:

zfs rocks

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tzanger:

hmm.. does anyone have a better tuning app than dvbtune? it's horseshit. mythtv's tuner is significantly better, but unfortunately it isn't CLI or really useful for aiming :-)

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wagnerrp:

seems the test failed

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android60:

I am adding guide info from an xml file, but mplexid and service id are not being added and its failing to tune. I did a test channel and manually added them and the channel worked. The generated channel entries look like http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/1580703

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android60:

is something missing or is there something I'm doing wrong? I use mythfilldatabase --refresh-all --file 8 channel_info.xml

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wagnerrp:

yes, expecting those to get added by mythfilldatabase

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iamlindoro:

a) the XML files aren't supposed to include tuning info for digital, and b) we don't support/allow discussion of violating terms of service to get guide data

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wagnerrp:

analog channels can be added by the listings provider

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wagnerrp:

digital channels can ONLY be added by scanning

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iamlindoro:

myth is already free, if you want guide info (and want support for it) then in the US you get to subscribe to SD

[22:25:39]

wagnerrp:

if youre in the US, cough up the $20/yr for SD

[22:25:59]

wagnerrp:

its at least worth that much of your time to not have to screw around with getting xmltv working

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android60:

wagnerrp: well if you have to scan how would SD work with digital clear qam channels?

[22:26:45]

wagnerrp:

android60: you scan the channels, and then you go back through and manually insert XMLTV ids

[22:26:56]

wagnerrp:

you would have to do this with an xmltv provider anyway

[22:27:01]

wagnerrp:

so its no difference

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android60:

oh ok

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android60:

and i can do that in channel editor right?

[22:27:28]

wagnerrp:

(aside from iamlindoro's comment about WMC guide data being restricted to WMC)

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android60:

in mythtv-setup

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wagnerrp:

channel editor in mythtv-setup or mythweb

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android60:

ok i appreciate the info. I am not real worried about guide info, i just like the channel name etc to actually be there

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wagnerrp:

mythtv is nearly worthless without guide data

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wagnerrp:

you may as well just spend $20 on a VCR

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iamlindoro:

And FWIW, *we* care. We don't want to be seen as a bunch of thieving scumbags, so many of us who know what we're doing here refuse to help people who decided to steal

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android60:

heh, myth is a tad more complicated that that. a vcr organize everything in 1 place for an easy interface

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wagnerrp:

android60: but you cant do anything but a manual record

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android60:

I'm not trying to steal guide info or anything

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wagnerrp:

but you are, as mentioned, WMC guide data is intended for WMC use only

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android60:

I plan on moving this machine back and forth and want an easy way to switch channel info quickly

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android60:

so i figured using mythfill to update channels through xml would be easier for me

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iamlindoro:

trouble with that is that you just *happen* to be stealing guide data by doing so...

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iamlindoro:

or will you promise not to look?

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android60:

I am only using it to figure out the format of what the xml file needed to be

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iamlindoro:

what a load

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android60:

mythfilldb kept throwing a fit with w.e i tried

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iamlindoro:

downloading it *at all* is violating the ToS and not welcome

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iamlindoro:

That's like saying you stole a diamond ring, but it's okay because you only wanted the price tag

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android60:

how do you know I didnt download it on my vista premium machine?

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iamlindoro:

Because it doesn't come in that format from your vista machine.

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android60:

if the program i used put it that way then it would

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iamlindoro:

And that, as previously mentioned, would be a VIOLATION OF TERMS OF SERVICE and thus unwelcome here

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iamlindoro:

the data is license only for Media center use, and only for download with that program, which does *not* dome in XMLTV format

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iamlindoro:

so please stop looking for help here, because you are violating channel rules. k. Thnx.

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laga:

bai

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tzanger:

heh

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tzanger:

I had to modify dvbtune to be able to tune ATSC

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tzanger:

what a pain int he ass

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tzanger:

at least it's doing it's bloody job now

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Davide-buntu:

where can I find a guide to setup the IR receiver/blaster for my PVR-150?

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[R]:

lirc

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Davide-buntu:

[R], I've installed lirc from the synaptic package manger, but not sure how to use it

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[R]:

tahts what google was invented for

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Davide-buntu:

sorry I suck at linux, I've only been finding dated documentation regarding that. Do I have to compile/configure the sourcecode on my system?

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Davide-buntu:

mostly stuff from 2006

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[R]:

no, you just need lirc

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Davide-buntu:

just trying to figure out how to configure it..

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Davide-buntu:

ah, /etc/lircd.conf?

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android60:

Is there a way to block music channels when scanning for clearqam? I selected TV and not TV+Radio

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android60:

in trunk

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Dagmar:

FlashForward wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be

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_ben:

i'm a bit unsure about the scanner in trunk and it's status

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wagnerrp:

yeah, but now we have another show with an unknown, ominous force, that well probably never find out what it is

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Dagmar:

Eveyrone's unsure about the scanner

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Dagmar:

wagnerrp: Huh?

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Dagmar:

We know what it is

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_ben:

doesn't seem to work for me and i'm in trouble on the 30th :p

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Dagmar:

THere's a BOhttps://mail.google.com/mail/?shva=1#inboxOK

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Dagmar:

stupid fumblpad... There's a book. I know exactly what the "mysterious force" is

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Dagmar:

I didn't appreciate them talking about the deer tho

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Dagmar:

That was nonsense.

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wagnerrp:

deer?

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Dagmar:

They were trying to make it out like Lost or something

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Davide-buntu:

[R], I've installed lirc, checked the conf file, looks like all settings are correct. in MythTV control center I enabled the IR transmitter/receiver for Hauppage remote. still won't work any ideas?

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Dagmar:

Yeah when the cop was running through the city in chaos, no wait a kangaroo

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Dagmar:

No significance at all to the kangaroo being there

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wagnerrp:

yeah, kangaroo

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Davide-buntu:

batteries are good! :P

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wagnerrp:

but hey, we had a couple wallaby on the loose north of cincinnati a couple years ago

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Dagmar:

They might as well have splashed the screen with "Kangaroo? /discuss" like some forum troll

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Davide-buntu:

actually in the lircd.conf.hauppauge file I notice in the settings there isnt a set of instructions for "PVR-150" but the instructions for "PVR-350" seem to resemble the layout of my remote very closely. if I just change the name of those intructions to PVR-150 willl it make it look at my tuner card making the remote work? Anyone use a PVR-150 with remote? Thanks

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Dagmar:

Using it is documented on the wiki

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Dagmar:

You don't have to guess

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Dagmar:

Dig a bit in there. That remote with the little IR reciever built into your tuner card is rather common actually

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