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| [00:03:27] | mattwj2002: | how do you shut off deinterlacing |
| [00:03:28] | mattwj2002: | ? |
| [00:03:53] | MarcT: | 2nd page in the setup of your profile |
| [00:04:04] | Josh__: | mattwj2002, specify deinterlacing filter to "none" in your playback profile |
| [00:04:36] | ** iamlindoro calls first fix in -fixes! ** | |
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| [00:06:13] | Josh__: | iamlindoro, 0.22 branched? woot! |
| [00:06:24] | iamlindoro: | Josh__, It's not released, don't get excited ;) |
| [00:06:31] | iamlindoro: | branched, but not a release yet |
| [00:10:52] | mattwj2002: | yeah |
| [00:10:55] | mattwj2002: | this sucks |
| [00:11:06] | mattwj2002: | mythtv doesn't work with HD but kaffeine does |
| [00:11:07] | mattwj2002: | :( |
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| [00:11:21] | mattwj2002: | both have PVR function |
| [00:11:27] | Josh__: | iamlindoro, understood, but a branch is the beginning :) |
| [00:13:31] | iamlindoro: | mattwj2002, You must be joking around, right? Myth works wonderfully with HD |
| [00:13:39] | iamlindoro: | *your* install might not, but mine's fantastic |
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| [00:13:57] | sphery: | mythtv doesn't work with HD? |
| [00:14:03] | sphery: | I have beautiful HDTV in Myth |
| [00:14:06] | mattwj2002: | iamlindoro I am talking about on an Eee PC 900 |
| [00:14:07] | mattwj2002: | :) |
| [00:14:24] | sphery: | that would be "My underpowered system doesn't work with HD" |
| [00:14:25] | iamlindoro: | That hardware is woefully underpowered for HD |
| [00:14:37] | mattwj2002: | it works with kaffeine though! |
| [00:14:40] | iamlindoro: | Kaffeine doesn't do 1/10th what Myth does |
| [00:14:47] | sphery: | if you want a fair comparison, disable all the other stuff Myth does |
| [00:14:51] | iamlindoro: | There's a hell of a lot more going on under the surface in myth |
| [00:15:02] | sphery: | things like deinterlacing and audio upmixing and ... |
| [00:15:17] | wesw02: | This is really really off topic (sorry) does anyone know of an irc with experts on HDMI and TOSLINK |
| [00:15:37] | Josh__: | wesw02, toslink is woefully overrated |
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| [00:16:09] | wesw02: | the question is a little less toslink specific more over an audio setup question for hmpc |
| [00:16:14] | wesw02: | htpc** |
| [00:16:39] | Josh__: | wesw02, why don't you actually ask the question and see if anyone has any suggestions? |
| [00:17:15] | sphery: | in here, we often pretend to be experts on all sorts of topics |
| [00:17:32] | notlistening: | ;) |
| [00:17:39] | notlistening: | mines being dumb |
| [00:17:42] | wesw02: | I suppose I'll go ahead and ask (again off topic, I apologize). I have a friend who works at Best Buy (he thinks he knows everything because of it), he claims that I'm lossing audio quality on my setup because I'm running my audio over HDMI to my TV then back to my reciever via toslink |
| [00:17:52] | ** mag0o is an expert cake eater ** | |
| [00:18:38] | wesw02: | His accusation is that all LCD tvs convert the digital audio from the HDMI source to analog for processing, then back to digital for retransmission to the reciever |
| [00:18:47] | wesw02: | now this of course makes no sense to me at all |
| [00:20:38] | notlistening: | not likely |
| [00:20:40] | wesw02: | I was wondering if someone could weigh in on this. |
| [00:20:51] | squidly: | what is TOSLINK? |
| [00:20:58] | iamlindoro: | Optical |
| [00:21:04] | squidly: | kk |
| [00:21:10] | wesw02: | Yea its the data layer for optical audio |
| [00:21:35] | wesw02: | he claims I'm better to run audio straight to the reciever from the computer instead of going through the LCD |
| [00:21:42] | squidly: | ok kind of like Fiber Link, and Opt-E-Man |
| [00:21:49] | notlistening: | not as an expert or anything but the whole D2A A2D conversion when both are D2D |
| [00:22:05] | mzb is now known as mzb_zz | |
| [00:22:44] | notlistening: | you could try that but i think again not an expert that you might experience timing issues with video audio sync is that likely from someone with expereince |
| [00:23:38] | notlistening: | goos subjrvtas i am thinking of doing the same ;) |
| [00:23:49] | notlistening: | *subject |
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| [00:24:54] | wesw02: | I honestly don't think he's knows what he's talking about, I'm just looking to prove him wrong |
| [00:25:29] | iamlindoro: | wesw02, I think your friend doesn't know what he's talking about either |
| [00:25:45] | iamlindoro: | but proving him wrong is likely to be difficult, and he likely knows that |
| [00:25:59] | iamlindoro: | ie the "make up something obscure and stupid that can't be easily disproven" kind of tool |
| [00:26:42] | mzb_zz is now known as mzb | |
| [00:26:43] | iamlindoro: | it's a much less "expensive" conversion just to take the AC3 stream and retransmit it-- doing a format conversion, and paying for hardware to decode AND encode AC3 would be monstrously dumb |
| [00:26:43] | wesw02: | iamlindoro, yea thats completely true, it's very hard to prove something is not true |
| [00:26:56] | Josh__: | wesw02, you can always remind him that he works at BestBuy, if he knew what he was talking about he's be working for a much better company. |
| [00:27:23] | ** wesw02 just rofled ** | |
| [00:27:31] | Josh__: | Rather than being told what kind of spiel to give to customers to confuse them into buying more expensive products than they need. |
| [00:28:16] | wesw02: | another valid point |
| [00:28:17] | ** Josh__ is utterly confused by the new channel scanner. ** | |
| [00:28:28] | wesw02: | I just hate listening to him ramble about he knows what he's talking about |
| [00:29:18] | Josh__: | wesw02, just tell him that your decision was made based on your own research, and you see no reason to change something that works. |
| [00:29:26] | notlistening: | http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=2 . . . 75729AAR62hA |
| [00:29:42] | notlistening: | seems to depend on your TV model |
| [00:31:09] | notlistening: | but if you wanting true HD sound apparently TOS does not have the bandwidth for it and your limited to HDMI :? |
| [00:31:14] | iamlindoro: | wesw02, http://en.allexperts.com/q/Home-Theater-2859/ . . . vices-TV.htm |
| [00:31:26] | iamlindoro: | That's your exact question, and indicates your setup is exactly correct |
| [00:31:54] | Josh__: | I dont see how the channel scanner finds QAM, DVB, as well as mpeg from a single hdhomerun tuner attached to Comcast cable |
| [00:32:02] | iamlindoro: | Presuming you are only transmitting 5.1, that is |
| [00:32:11] | sphery: | what's it do with other HD audio formats? |
| [00:32:29] | iamlindoro: | I'd be shocked if the TV decoded any of the HD formats, very very few do |
| [00:32:39] | wesw02: | yea |
| [00:32:40] | iamlindoro: | And no, AC-3 and DTS are not HD formats :) |
| [00:32:41] | sphery: | so it just stops there? |
| [00:32:46] | wesw02: | this should do |
| [00:32:47] | iamlindoro: | sphery, Likely |
| [00:32:57] | sphery: | so, if you hear it, it works :) |
| [00:33:02] | wesw02: | thanks for all the help guys :) |
| [00:33:32] | iamlindoro: | sphery, Well, most Blu Ray players will either parse out the lossy core of DTS-HD MA (to regular 5.1 DTS) or decode the other formats to PCM audio |
| [00:33:42] | iamlindoro: | so if the TV doesn't support it, you can configure to send that |
| [00:33:53] | sphery: | ahh, cool |
| [00:34:00] | sphery: | though it would go 2-channel PCM? |
| [00:34:09] | sphery: | (once it leaves HDMI?) |
| [00:34:12] | iamlindoro: | well, depends on your config |
| [00:34:13] | iamlindoro: | yeah |
| [00:34:15] | Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : -v jams | |
| [00:34:33] | iamlindoro: | you might be able to set 8 channel to the TV, but the most you'd squeeze onto the optical would be two channel |
| [00:34:45] | iamlindoro: | ooh, did jams get sassy earlier and I missed it? ;) |
| [00:34:46] | sphery: | I heard some are shoehorning non-S/PDIF formats into S/PDIF connections (TOSLink/Digital Audio) |
| [00:34:54] | sphery: | though still just compressed formats |
| [00:35:12] | jams: | no I had a connection reset |
| [00:35:35] | iamlindoro: | ah |
| [00:35:59] | jams: | nothing exciting about that =) |
| [00:36:07] | iamlindoro: | indeed not ;) |
| [00:36:26] | iamlindoro: | So I heard .22 is like totally out |
| [00:36:33] | iamlindoro: | and like, perfect |
| [00:37:13] | ** wesw02 is buying an HD-PVR as soon as .22 is marked beta ** | |
| [00:37:28] | sphery: | I heard that only one of the tuners on the HDHomeRun works, and only if the cable company gives you a DTA |
| [00:37:42] | sphery: | ^^^ completely not true |
| [00:38:41] | iamlindoro: | sphery, think it's time for the appeal for testers |
| [00:38:55] | iamlindoro: | wesw02, we branched .22 today (though it's not a release, people can feel free to test) |
| [00:39:06] | notlistening: | has anyone tested the new asus revo the n330 model for htpc use? |
| [00:40:10] | notlistening: | iamlindoro, already testing :D |
| [00:40:22] | iamlindoro: | I think I'm going to start using the Amelie as my showcase for fanart. It's just such a pretty fanart. http://www.fecitfacta.com/amelie.png |
| [00:41:17] | wesw02: | oh yea, |
| [00:41:21] | wesw02: | ! |
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| [00:41:55] | squidly: | iamlindoro: I'm curretnly running 0.22 (trunk) |
| [00:41:58] | wesw02: | wait, you mean you created a child branch from the Trunk for 0.22 right? |
| [00:42:15] | sphery: | squidly: there is no 0.22 |
| [00:42:20] | sphery: | never been tagged |
| [00:42:34] | sphery: | Like me, back when I was the fastest kid on the block... |
| [00:42:48] | iamlindoro: | yes, the branch has been created for .22 |
| [00:42:57] | squidly: | sphery: look up ^^ |
| [00:43:09] | squidly: | it was dont today |
| [00:43:10] | sphery: | but until the /tag/ is created, there /is/ no 0.22 |
| [00:43:16] | wesw02: | I'm so excited right now |
| [00:43:17] | sphery: | http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/tags |
| [00:43:24] | sphery: | vs http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/branches |
| [00:43:28] | iamlindoro: | sphery is right |
| [00:43:31] | sphery: | thus, /never been tagged/ |
| [00:43:36] | wesw02: | do you guys use tags for builds? |
| [00:43:53] | iamlindoro: | That said, trunk users are safe to follow 0.22-fixes if they want to end up w/ the release |
| [00:44:05] | sphery: | and, in reality, with 0.21, we tagged and then re-tagged because the initial tag was too buggy :) |
| [00:44:18] | sphery: | tags are more of a holdover from cvs |
| [00:44:26] | wesw02: | (I work at a company that writes a properity SCM, I sometimes have development habits that aren't in line with OSS development processes) |
| [00:44:27] | iamlindoro: | ie you can do an svn switch to release-0-22-fixes now and you'll slide right in to the release and follow fixes |
| [00:44:29] | Josh__: | Sigh, I havent been able to get a usable video yet with trunk. |
| [00:44:35] | sphery: | but they serve the purpose of marking official revision numbers for released versions |
| [00:44:43] | wesw02: | okay cool |
| [00:44:48] | wesw02: | thats exactly what I thought |
| [00:45:21] | sphery: | Anyone updating from 0.21-fixes or trunk to release-0-22-fixes, please do it like: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/356880#356880 |
| [00:45:25] | wesw02: | again very excited, I'm doing a checkout now :) |
| [00:45:31] | sphery: | rather than a checkout |
| [00:45:34] | sphery: | :) |
| [00:47:19] | wesw02: | without too many details is there a lot of Qt development left? We use Qt at work to develop our main applications, I've wanted to contribute to MythTv before now, but I haven't had time with School and Work |
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| [00:47:49] | iamlindoro: | wesw02, Not sure I know what you mean by "qt development left" |
| [00:48:04] | iamlindoro: | We use Qt all the time, it's just the toolkit-- the Qt development in myth won't ever end |
| [00:48:25] | wesw02: | hehe, I should clearify |
| [00:48:34] | wesw02: | I meant Qt related bugs |
| [00:48:55] | wesw02: | for 0.22 |
| [00:49:00] | iamlindoro: | likewise, there will always be bugs that in some way pertain to Qt |
| [00:49:08] | wesw02: | perhaps I chould just check Trac ;) |
| [00:49:28] | Josh__: | wesw02, whereabouts are you located? |
| [00:49:36] | wesw02: | Mason, Ohio |
| [00:49:41] | iamlindoro: | wesw02, there aren't going to be bugs marked as "qt related" |
| [00:50:00] | iamlindoro: | they're just Bugs-- whether they're related to myth code or in code that some way uses Qt, you'll ever know until you're fixing them |
| [00:50:02] | sphery: | wesw02: we don't use the Qt UI at all, though, so if that's what you mean... |
| [00:50:20] | jamey: | any suggestions as why i am having hard time getting hdmi in trunk working? worked fine in my last install with .21 |
| [00:50:21] | sphery: | (where "at all" means except for the part that we're trying to replace) |
| [00:50:37] | jamey: | hdmi audio that is |
| [00:50:49] | notlistening: | iamlindoro, already testing :D just spotted a bug :D |
| [00:51:12] | wesw02: | sphery, yea that's what I meant, I though you might use some of the UI classes |
| [00:51:50] | iamlindoro: | only really for the settings screens at this point |
| [00:51:55] | iamlindoro: | and that code is ancient ancient |
| [00:52:01] | iamlindoro: | not going to find anything worthwhile to do there |
| [00:52:12] | iamlindoro: | as it's all getting ripped out in the near future anyway |
| [00:52:17] | sphery: | wesw02: yeah, the Qt UI code isn't really appropriate for a 10-ft UI... |
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| [00:52:26] | jamey: | audio works on the computer main sound card just cant figure out the deal with hdmi. |
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| [00:52:34] | sphery: | we have a custom UI that's designed for use with a TV and remote |
| [00:53:01] | notlistening: | jamey, what OS you using? |
| [00:53:07] | jamey: | karmic |
| [00:53:18] | notlistening: | pulse? |
| [00:53:28] | jamey: | right now disabled |
| [00:53:45] | jamey: | i tried it with it but disabled it just using alsa |
| [00:53:46] | wesw02: | maybe if I can make sometime this weekend I'll open up some code and have a look, are there any good documents that describe some of the design patterns or anything that might help some who's not familar with the code base get started? |
| [00:54:02] | notlistening: | what hdmi hardware you using? |
| [00:54:10] | jamey: | ati |
| [00:54:17] | jamey: | ati 4350 |
| [00:54:42] | notlistening: | right and are you getting any sound through hdmi? |
| [00:54:57] | jamey: | no not in myth |
| [00:55:02] | jamey: | get it on the outside |
| [00:55:15] | jamey: | but cant get it to work in myth |
| [00:55:23] | jams: | for all those Jason Mews fans out there, Bitten is playing on Chiller in a couple hours |
| [00:55:41] | iamlindoro: | jams, Now you're just making words up ;) |
| [00:56:06] | notlistening: | jamey. have you done any work on your alsa config? |
| [00:56:25] | jamey: | I have tried setting defaults asound.rc |
| [00:56:37] | jamey: | i am not a master of the whole alsa deal |
| [00:56:46] | notlistening: | and your totally adverse to running pulse? |
| [00:57:03] | iamlindoro: | s/adverse/averse/ |
| [00:57:11] | jamey: | no like i said I used to use pulse its just not working in that either |
| [00:57:17] | jamey: | same deal really wierd |
| [00:57:17] | jams: | Jason Mewes, my bad |
| [00:57:20] | iamlindoro: | He's *averse* to running pulse because it would cause an *adverse* reaction |
| [00:57:57] | jamey: | In gnome there used to be a setting when u setup pulseaudio it was set default mixer |
| [00:58:12] | jamey: | Now in karmic ther is no such setting, at least i cant find it |
| [00:58:18] | jamey: | think that may be the problem |
| [00:59:01] | notlistening: | iamlindoro, thanks for the correction there ;) |
| [00:59:10] | iamlindoro: | Always happy to help |
| [01:00:12] | squidly: | jamey: personally I remove Pulse from my system. It's caused me nothing but probelms |
| [01:01:22] | jamey: | well I will use whatever will work, cuz i haven't had luck getting either working. It just over hdmi too. other sound cards work. Seems like a bug possibly |
| [01:01:24] | notlistening: | try sudo apt-get install asoundconfig-gtk |
| [01:02:08] | notlistening: | my bad asoundconf-gtk |
| [01:02:13] | jamey: | yeah you know what happens when u run that in karmic nothing |
| [01:02:27] | squidly: | jamey: you in a console? |
| [01:02:33] | jamey: | it crashes, I used to use it to set my default card |
| [01:04:18] | jamey: | one sec i'm checking |
| [01:05:02] | notlistening: | yeah but i have to confess not running karmic ;) |
| [01:06:14] | notlistening: | http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1009407.html |
| [01:06:36] | notlistening: | there is loads of info there my experiences with ubuntu and ati |
| [01:08:35] | jamey: | yeah thanks, but the thing is i'm not a virgin to getting hdmi working i have it working on several computers using multiseat. The only place i am having problems is with myth .22 |
| [01:09:18] | jamey: | just was wondering if anyone else had heard of some problems |
| [01:10:11] | notlistening: | okay not that it helps it works for me, but i am using an upstream version of pulse on both nvidia and ati machine and that solved all my issues |
| [01:10:42] | jamey: | can u run 9.17 |
| [01:10:51] | jamey: | pa 9.17 |
| [01:12:06] | jamey: | is there a commandline version of running asoundconf-gtk |
| [01:12:07] | jamey: | ? |
| [01:12:30] | notlistening: | asoundconf |
| [01:12:46] | notlistening: | its there on the ubuntu forums |
| [01:13:02] | notlistening: | i am running 9.15 |
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| [01:17:33] | notlistening: | even if you running on the EIT do you need to run mythfilldatabase? |
| [01:20:45] | sphery: | notlistening: not in 0.21-fixes and above |
| [01:21:45] | notlistening: | i have mythweb running and the program data is very hit and miss at the moment |
| [01:22:06] | notlistening: | does it come with time? |
| [01:22:53] | notlistening: | i can see slowly filtering in now |
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| [01:28:31] | mag0o: | sphery == mdean? |
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| [01:29:12] | sphery: | mag0o: yep |
| [01:29:44] | mag0o: | k, if you need any more info on 7049 let me know :) |
| [01:30:15] | sphery: | ah, that's you... :) No. I reproduced it today. |
| [01:30:22] | sphery: | I'm working a different patch first, then will get to that one. |
| [01:30:37] | mag0o: | cool, no hurries |
| [01:30:43] | sphery: | I still want to know what 0.21-fixes did, so I'll test that once I get to "stop working on Myth and start using Myth" time later tonight. |
| [01:31:10] | sphery: | It's very likely, though, it was a change I committed recently that caused it. |
| [01:31:48] | sphery: | mag0o: BTW, you can use the INFO menu to play back those recordings... Select the recording, hit INFO (i), then Play from... and select Beginning |
| [01:32:03] | hondo: | My R5.5 knoppMyth install is hampered by my hitting the "return key" on my keyboard and the machine reacting as if I hit return several times. |
| [01:32:10] | mag0o: | yeah, doing that or clear the bookmark and play it |
| [01:32:15] | hondo: | My R5.5 knoppMyth install is hampered by my hitting the "return key" on my keyboard and the machine reacting as if I hit return several times. |
| [01:32:44] | sphery: | mag0o: and the reason the clear on playback start doesn't help is because that starts at the bookmark, then clears the bookmark, but then you've already hit the end of the recording, so it asks about exiting or deleting, you hit exit, and it saves a new bookmark :) |
| [01:32:45] | hondo: | oops |
| [01:33:01] | mag0o: | sorta the bookmark loop i've entered |
| [01:33:08] | mag0o: | like the twilight zone |
| [01:33:08] | sphery: | won't happen once we fix the extra bookmark |
| [01:33:15] | sphery: | heh, yeah |
| [01:33:15] | mag0o: | ahh |
| [01:33:36] | sphery: | hondo: on the keyboard, not remote? |
| [01:33:47] | hondo: | sphery, ya |
| [01:34:03] | sphery: | hmmm... can't think of any reason that would happen |
| [01:34:19] | sphery: | unless your X keyboard repeat rate settings are really borked |
| [01:34:22] | Josh__: | uh-oh, mythplugins won't compile on my system. |
| [01:34:36] | sphery: | Josh__: pastebin error message? |
| [01:34:58] | hondo: | sphery, doesn't happen at the console |
| [01:35:03] | sphery: | hmmm.... |
| [01:36:12] | Josh__: | sphery, http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/1566284 |
| [01:36:35] | hondo: | sphery, I also get a complete hard-lock of my system if I hit "return" (KB) on "Watch TV" |
| [01:36:56] | hondo: | I wonder if the two are related |
| [01:37:53] | sphery: | Josh__: you're using Qt4? |
| [01:38:06] | Josh__: | sphery, yes. |
| [01:38:22] | sphery: | # |
| [01:38:23] | sphery: | /usr/local/include/mythtv/mythcontext.h:9:19: error: QObject: No such file or directory |
| [01:38:35] | sphery: | seems to imply that some of your distcc hosts aren't set up for Qt4? |
| [01:38:42] | Josh__: | I'm not using distcc |
| [01:38:44] | Josh__: | just a second |
| [01:38:56] | clever: | sphery: no |
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| [01:39:45] | Josh__: | I dont see distcc as a valid configure option to disable. |
| [01:39:54] | clever: | sphery: distcc will pre-compile (the #includes) on the client end, so the hosts dont need headers |
| [01:40:20] | sphery: | hondo: the complete hard lock could go either way... it could potentially be caused by a race condition triggered by a slew of returns issued just as playback starts or it could actually be an indicator of the actual root of the problem... :( |
| [01:40:42] | sphery: | clever: any ideas how his system wouldn't know QObject? |
| [01:41:06] | clever: | sphery: add the -v flag to the compile command |
| [01:41:55] | Josh__: | clever, the --version flag? |
| [01:41:58] | Josh__: | grin |
| [01:42:01] | clever: | Josh__: no, verbose |
| [01:42:17] | Josh__: | -v, --version Print the version number of make and exit. |
| [01:42:26] | clever: | then gcc will spew every directory it goes thru as it searches for QObject |
| [01:42:29] | sphery: | Josh__: -I/usr/include/qt3 |
| [01:42:31] | sphery: | not good |
| [01:42:35] | Josh__: | hmm |
| [01:42:43] | clever: | Josh__: is that from distcc gcc or g++? |
| [01:42:48] | sphery: | did you do an svn switch from a 0.21-fixes build? |
| [01:42:51] | Josh__: | that's from 'make' |
| [01:42:55] | Josh__: | sphery, yes. |
| [01:43:01] | Josh__: | sphery, as per the gossamer-threads post |
| [01:43:20] | sphery: | Josh__: do a: find . -name 'Makefile' -delete && svn revert -R . |
| [01:43:36] | sphery: | Josh__: oh, wait |
| [01:43:42] | sphery: | do a make distclean first |
| [01:43:50] | sphery: | make distclean && find . -name 'Makefile' -delete && svn revert -R . |
| [01:43:54] | Josh__: | sphery, ok |
| [01:44:04] | clever: | Josh__: what i do, is cd into the directory make crashed on, then copy/paste the command it ran(and failed) |
| [01:44:18] | clever: | then manualy tweak that command with things like -v until i find the problem and fix it |
| [01:44:28] | sphery: | yeah, this is because he followed some (incomplete) advice I gave earlier :) |
| [01:44:59] | sphery: | I forget that some people actually compile in the same working copies they svn up... |
| [01:45:05] | Josh__: | sphery, now, start over from scratch ./configure ? |
| [01:45:24] | clever: | i should probly update sometime soon |
| [01:45:47] | sphery: | Josh__: yeah |
| [01:46:02] | Josh__: | sphery, still upset, and I agree, it appears it's using qt3 libs.. *sigh* |
| [01:46:13] | sphery: | it did the same thing? |
| [01:46:30] | sphery: | and you make distclean'ed it? |
| [01:47:17] | ** sphery wonders if the proper way to past-tense "make distclean" would be "made distclean" ** | |
| [01:47:20] | clever: | when i last had this problem |
| [01:47:25] | clever: | i uninstalled the qt3 dev libs |
| [01:47:26] | Josh__: | sphery, yes. Same error |
| [01:47:38] | clever: | causing it to crash hard if it ever tried to use qt3, instead of half working |
| [01:47:40] | Josh__: | clever, sounds like a good idea, I dont plan on compiling any qt3 apps :) |
| [01:48:45] | sphery: | Josh__: might need to repeat the following in both mythplugins and mythtv, then reconfigure/recompile/re-install mythtv, then reconfigure/compile mythplugins: make distclean && find . -name 'Makefile' -delete && svn revert -R . |
| [01:49:11] | sphery: | sorry my incomplete advice slowed you down :) |
| [01:49:23] | sphery: | I was trying to save people time/bandwidth |
| [01:49:43] | Josh__: | sphery, no biggie. |
| [01:49:52] | Josh__: | I can do a complete checkout of 0.22-fixes if needed |
| [01:50:57] | notlistening: | with the show listings do i just need to be patient? |
| [01:52:14] | Josh__: | um, sphery |
| [01:52:24] | sphery: | problem? |
| [01:52:43] | Josh__: | go back to that gossamer-threads post you mentioned earlier |
| [01:52:50] | Josh__: | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/356880#356880 |
| [01:53:03] | Josh__: | I didnt read enough before doing it, and switched to 0.21-fixes |
| [01:53:04] | sphery: | you did a copy paste and didn't update it to release-0-22-fixes? |
| [01:53:06] | sphery: | sorry |
| [01:53:11] | Josh__: | it's ok |
| [01:53:12] | sphery: | should have mentioned that was required :) |
| [01:53:22] | Josh__: | I should have noticed it |
| [01:53:28] | sphery: | but on the bright side, this time I actually have told you all the other things |
| [01:53:40] | Josh__: | it's okay, I'm doing a co of 0.22-fixes |
| [01:53:46] | sphery: | the deleting the Makefile part being important for the Qt3 to Qt4 switch |
| [01:54:12] | Josh__: | so I need to delete the makefile on this new svn checkout I assume? |
| [01:54:22] | Josh__: | or would a distclean before ./configure suffice? |
| [01:55:42] | hondo: | sphery, I might not have a pc105 board as my xorg.conf wishes |
| [01:55:54] | hondo: | ` |
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| [01:57:39] | sphery: | ideally, make distclean in mythtv and mythplugins and myththemes and themes, then go to the trunk directory, then svn switch http://svn.mythtv.org/svn/branches/release-0-22-fixes/ , then rm mythtv/version.pro , then find . -name 'Makefile' -delete && svn revert -R . |
| [01:57:43] | sphery: | Josh__: ^^^ |
| [01:57:57] | ** sphery should put that on a wiki page or something ** | |
| [01:58:06] | sphery: | hondo: hope that's it... |
| [01:58:08] | hondo: | http://home.gna.org/ngl/doc/ngl/keyboard.html — has key # 33 as one vertical key, Mine is horizontal |
| [01:59:17] | sphery: | hondo: xev ? |
| [02:00:30] | Josh__: | sphery, much better. |
| [02:00:48] | hondo: | sphery, lemme look that up |
| [02:01:10] | Josh__: | that was the original problem, I reverted back to 0.21-fixes rather than actually doing some thinking and making sure the URL was correct :) |
| [02:01:35] | sphery: | Josh__: cool... and thanks for being my guinea pig... Now I can be sure I get all the info in the post/wiki page |
| [02:01:50] | skimj1: | I'm looking for a quick pointer: How can I make the internal DVD player start at either the DVD menu or just start the main title (skip FBI/previews)? I'm running 0.21 |
| [02:02:05] | sphery: | Josh__: though, since I didn't warn you that's an old post from 0.21-fixes days... |
| [02:02:15] | hondo: | sphery, oh yea, I remember xev |
| [02:02:19] | sphery: | it's easy not to notice that one-char difference |
| [02:02:37] | sphery: | hondo: yeah, it tells you what x events are received |
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| [02:02:47] | sphery: | so point to the box and hit the key and see what all X sees |
| [02:04:06] | hondo: | sphery, I've used this when setting up evrouter |
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| [02:11:42] | Josh__: | sphery, the channel scanner's still throwing me for a loop with all the different types of channels it finds on a single ATSC HDHR tuner. |
| [02:12:57] | Josh__: | Does deleting all the tuners on the master backend purge the channel tables still? |
| [02:13:27] | wagnerrp: | it does not now, and it has no for as long as ive used mythtv |
| [02:13:41] | wagnerrp: | your source holds the channels |
| [02:13:44] | wagnerrp: | not your tuner |
| [02:13:56] | Josh__: | wagnerrp, ahh.. I must have been mistaken |
| [02:14:21] | Josh__: | let me wipe my source and see if I still get conflicts from a scan (there should be none, IMO) |
| [02:15:01] | Josh__: | If the channel scanner is to be trusted, my ATSC hdhomerun is picking up some DVB channels. |
| [02:15:34] | sphery: | Josh__: you have to delete video sources to delete channels |
| [02:15:50] | sphery: | channels are related to video sources not cards/inputs |
| [02:15:55] | larrikin: | I upgraded everything recently including all myth stuff 0.20->0.21 .. the only thing that seems still a problem is that mythweb program page (ie. the recording job options) the page isn't rendering properly, everything is stacked to the left side and some line breaking appears non-existent .. |
| [02:16:22] | Josh__: | After I get done recompiling I'll delete the sources and try another channel scan |
| [02:16:28] | sphery: | the video source is the abstraction that allows reusing the same channels on multiple inputs as well as specifying when inputs have different channels |
| [02:17:14] | sphery: | larrikin: the Backend Status page? |
| [02:17:26] | hondo: | sphery, appears that I have a pc 104 "Windows" board. Changed it in xorg.conf, reboot, and get "c7" respawning too fast. Ugh |
| [02:17:29] | sphery: | larrikin: better, can you filebin a screenshot? |
| [02:18:05] | leprechau: | anyone have any cautions about the pinnacle 800i cards? |
| [02:18:14] | leprechau: | im thinking of picking up two of em |
| [02:18:26] | larrikin: | sphery: the status page looks perfect, I'll try a screenshot of the program page |
| [02:18:33] | Josh__: | Arent those just framegrabbers? |
| [02:18:44] | sphery: | Josh__: also, often you need to delete /all/ video sources to clean out everything http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/264034#264034 |
| [02:18:56] | leprechau: | the mythtv page says there used to be a problem with the audio back on older kernel...but there is no mention of it on the linuxtv page |
| [02:19:05] | Josh__: | sphery, no biggie, this is my test laptop, there's only one video source. |
| [02:19:06] | sphery: | leprechau: if it's an analog cpature card, then yes, I have cautions--don't use framegrabbers! |
| [02:19:23] | leprechau: | sphery, it's atsc/qam card |
| [02:19:30] | sphery: | leprechau: you want either the PVR-150 or PVR-500 or (assuming NTSC) HVR-1600 |
| [02:19:51] | Gav8in: | yay! this new antenna is kicking ass. |
| [02:19:56] | sphery: | if it's ATSC/QAM, it should be fine if it has Linux support (see linuxtv.org/wiki ) |
| [02:20:01] | sphery: | leprechau: ^^^ |
| [02:20:03] | Josh__: | leprechau, http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Pinnacle_800i |
| [02:20:12] | leprechau: | Josh__, yeah i have read all of those |
| [02:20:39] | leprechau: | was hoping someone might have had one i could talk to...that page on myth wiki says there used to be an audio problem with that card back on older kernels |
| [02:20:59] | leprechau: | but no update to that page if newer firmware/v4l fixed it or now |
| [02:21:03] | sphery: | hondo: c7 respawning too fast would imply some breakage in your inittab on the "ondemand" runlevels |
| [02:21:06] | leprechau: | *not |
| [02:26:40] | mattwj2002: | hi guys |
| [02:26:44] | mattwj2002: | I need some help |
| [02:27:00] | MarcT: | yeah, that hair is deadful |
| [02:27:47] | mattwj2002: | I have a Hauppauge WinTV HVR-850 mythtv recognizes it as a webcam what can I do |
| [02:27:53] | mattwj2002: | yeah I know I need a hair cut |
| [02:27:54] | mattwj2002: | :( |
| [02:28:06] | wagnerrp: | mythtv does not recognize webcams |
| [02:28:10] | iamlindoro: | Wow, Patrick Swayze dead |
| [02:28:23] | sphery: | really? |
| [02:28:26] | sphery: | cause? |
| [02:28:30] | MarcT: | cancer |
| [02:28:30] | iamlindoro: | cancer |
| [02:28:33] | sphery: | wow |
| [02:28:36] | wagnerrp: | hes been fighting cancer for several years |
| [02:28:46] | sphery: | I hadn't heard. |
| [02:28:53] | mattwj2002: | I know wagnerrp |
| [02:28:58] | mattwj2002: | :P |
| [02:29:01] | sphery: | (don't really do the celebrity following thing) |
| [02:29:10] | iamlindoro: | top of cnn.com |
| [02:29:17] | mattwj2002: | it isn't a webcam but for some reason it thinks it is one |
| [02:29:28] | mattwj2002: | it is an analog/hd tv tuner |
| [02:30:16] | sphery: | mattwj2002: best bet is linuxtv.org/wiki |
| [02:30:43] | ** meshe is about to compile trunk on her netbook ** | |
| [02:30:44] | wagnerrp: | iamlindoro: i was flipping through channels earlier tonight, and came across some MMA, where they were talking about 'the octagon' |
| [02:30:56] | wagnerrp: | i couldnt help but think about a bit of Anchorman trivia |
| [02:31:09] | ** MarcT thinks meshe is nuts ** | |
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| [02:31:21] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp, hahaha |
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| [02:31:48] | meshe: | some people want me to work on the perl bindings and the only place i have time to do that is on my 3 hour/day commute |
| [02:32:07] | wagnerrp: | eh? is that total? 90min each way? |
| [02:32:19] | meshe: | yeah, 90 mins each way |
| [02:32:33] | MarcT: | bus tram subway? |
| [02:32:48] | meshe: | 1 bus and 2 trains |
| [02:33:05] | MarcT: | if your driving, I need to make sure I'm not around l9ol |
| [02:33:17] | meshe: | i have iphone tethering working in linux, so connectivity isn't an issue |
| [02:33:36] | MarcT: | heh, you got the file too? |
| [02:33:52] | MarcT: | to unlock the feature on the phone? or you not with ATT? |
| [02:33:56] | meshe: | no, tethering worked legitmately in Canada from day 1 |
| [02:34:57] | MarcT: | an.. canada.. that explains alot =p |
| [02:35:09] | clever: | ive done some reverse-tethering |
| [02:35:20] | clever: | to get super-cheap/fast inet on the phone |
| [02:35:30] | wagnerrp: | but why? you have a computer right there |
| [02:35:45] | meshe: | that's what I was just thinking |
| [02:35:51] | clever: | yeah thats the main reason to not bother doing it:P |
| [02:36:04] | clever: | enless you have an app you must use on the phone, or are doing dev work on a cell app |
| [02:36:26] | meshe: | my phone has wifi, so that's not an issue |
| [02:36:38] | clever: | mine doesnt |
| [02:39:02] | clever: | ive looked at a few tethering app's for the palm/treo, and most of them emulate a usb serial port/modem |
| [02:39:05] | meshe: | the only time i bother connecting it to a wifi connection is when i'm in the states to avoid paying $1/MB |
| [02:39:23] | clever: | but the main problem, is that it needs the name/pw for connecting, the same ones entered in the phones network config |
| [02:39:58] | clever: | id have to ask the telco for that, and then they may catch on |
| [02:40:02] | clever: | and it may not even work |
| [02:40:16] | meshe: | clever: howardforums.com all the info is there |
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| [02:42:47] | larrikin: | sphery – still trying to upload my screenshot, filebin keeps calling it invalid, its 640px wide png |
| [02:44:09] | sphery: | larrikin: maybe http://www.screenshots.cc/ ?\ |
| [02:44:09] | iamlindoro: | Wait a Minute, Bryce Larrikin? Didn't you steal my girlfriend and get me kicked out of Stanford? |
| [02:44:20] | sphery: | though, don't go there if work |
| [02:44:25] | sphery: | seems it's nsfw |
| [02:44:44] | meshe: | you got kicked out of Stanford? |
| [02:44:47] | sphery: | iamlindoro: now I miss Chuck |
| [02:45:05] | iamlindoro: | Yeah, now I work at this electronics store and.. well, you don't want to hear about me |
| [02:45:39] | ** iamlindoro pulls up the "Domo Arigato Mr. Roboto" segment ** | |
| [02:45:57] | meshe: | nvm :) |
| [02:46:03] | larrikin: | sphery – http://imagebin.ca/view/RQH6XTNd.html |
| [02:46:06] | meshe: | i've still never seen Chuck |
| [02:46:20] | sphery: | imagebin is probably a better choice |
| [02:47:15] | iamlindoro: | JEFFSTER! |
| [02:47:37] | sphery: | larrikin: that's normal... click "Hide" next to Advanced Options and note what happens. |
| [02:48:20] | larrikin: | sphery – see how all the options on the 'More' line are packed together ? |
| [02:48:22] | sphery: | larrikin: then click Show again (for Advanced Options ) and then maximize the window |
| [02:48:47] | larrikin: | sphery – prior to upgrade all the 'More' stuff was on a separate line |
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| [02:49:08] | sphery: | larrikin: ah, I see, now |
| [02:49:18] | sphery: | yeah, that's broken |
| [02:49:24] | sphery: | (but not on mine...) |
| [02:49:29] | sphery: | that's current 0.21-fixes? |
| [02:49:38] | Josh__: | sphery, okay, I wiped all my video sources, and re-ran the channel scanner, it found some "non-conflicting atsc channels" and some "non-conflicting mpeg channels", and some "conflicting" mpeg channels? |
| [02:49:45] | mattwj2002: | hey guys I don't feel like compiling mythtv but I would like to try an early release of .22 is there any ubuntu packages available? |
| [02:50:02] | Josh__: | mattwj2002, no. 0.22 didn't exist until earlier this evening. |
| [02:50:03] | sphery: | larrikin: can you pastebin mythbackend --version , please |
| [02:50:12] | iamlindoro: | and still doesn'y |
| [02:50:16] | iamlindoro: | doesn't |
| [02:50:28] | iamlindoro: | .22 is branched, not released |
| [02:50:30] | mattwj2002: | there isn't any ppa? |
| [02:50:35] | sphery: | mattwj2002: ubuntu weekly builds of trunk is the same |
| [02:50:43] | sphery: | (for now) |
| [02:51:13] | sphery: | Josh__: I don't really know what's up with the conflicting/non-conflicting stuff, but I'm pretty sure they're still working on that |
| [02:51:51] | mattwj2002: | sphery do you know where I would find the weekly trunk for mythtv? |
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| [02:52:18] | sphery: | no, sorry... I'm not a *buntu user |
| [02:52:40] | mattwj2002: | no problem :) |
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| [02:53:37] | meshe: | mattwj2002: i think the mythbuntu site has it |
| [02:53:51] | mattwj2002: | awesome thanks meshe |
| [02:53:52] | mattwj2002: | :D |
| [02:54:28] | MarcT: | larrikin what browser are you using? |
| [02:54:38] | mattwj2002: | your right....here is the link in case anyone is interested |
| [02:54:40] | mattwj2002: | http://mythbuntu.org/auto-builds |
| [02:54:41] | larrikin: | sphery – http://pastebin.org/17986 WARN: ads and popups |
| [02:55:08] | sphery: | yeah, pastebin.org seems to have been cracked |
| [02:55:09] | larrikin: | MarcT: Iceweasel, hasn't changed since mythweb 0.20 install tho |
| [02:55:37] | iamlindoro: | way to upgrade to .21 just days before .22 comes out, btw ;) |
| [02:55:46] | MarcT: | is that a fixes build from march of 08? |
| [02:56:22] | MarcT: | I cant help with .21-fixes. |
| [02:56:24] | MarcT: | =p |
| [02:56:25] | sphery: | larrikin: seems it shouldn't be doing that |
| [02:56:33] | sphery: | looks like -fixes from July 09 |
| [02:56:46] | sphery: | you're looking at the plugin version |
| [02:56:50] | larrikin: | MarcT – Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.0.8) Gecko/2009032811 Iceweasel/3.0.7 (Debian-3.0.7–1) |
| [02:59:04] | larrikin: | MarcT / sphery – looks completely normal in IE7 |
| [02:59:59] | larrikin: | MarcT / sphery – now that I know its only a browser compat thing I'm less concerned, I orig thought my install was at fault |
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| [03:03:44] | iamlindoro: | What was your first clue? |
| [03:03:45] | MarcT: | that |
| [03:03:45] | ** iamlindoro drinks a shot to Defying Gravity. ** | |
| [03:03:45] | iamlindoro: | May Beta bring you all the shiny orange happiness in the world |
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| [03:06:12] | sphery: | wow... iamlindoro is getting a nicket |
| [03:06:14] | sphery: | nickel |
| [03:06:25] | iamlindoro: | I am?? |
| [03:06:26] | iamlindoro: | Yay! |
| [03:07:17] | larrikin: | sphery – do I take it that the program detail bug is known/fixed already ? |
| [03:07:18] | sphery: | see Re: [mythtv-users] Mythbackend VERY unstable. Repetitive errors inordkuo log |
| [03:07:34] | sphery: | larrikin: let's just say it's a "workforme" |
| [03:07:48] | larrikin: | sphery – okay |
| [03:08:16] | sphery: | larrikin: even in trunk (where that's changed somewhat) |
| [03:08:36] | sphery: | larrikin: I'd recommend you clear your browser cache--I'll bet you have some old CSS |
| [03:08:44] | larrikin: | just bear in mind that 0.20 rendered perfectly in same browser |
| [03:08:56] | sphery: | yeah, so old 0.20 CSS :) |
| [03:08:57] | larrikin: | thats a thought |
| [03:10:08] | sphery: | Josh__: it can't start mythvideo if the MythVideo database schema is wrong |
| [03:10:09] | larrikin: | sphery – damn, that was it :) |
| [03:10:34] | larrikin: | tyvm .. |
| [03:10:36] | sphery: | larrikin: took me until just now to think of it, too, so don't feel bad :) |
| [03:11:43] | larrikin: | note to downstream packagers .. warn users to clear browser cache .. |
| [03:12:06] | sphery: | heh |
| [03:12:28] | sphery: | larrikin: on the bright side, I'm sure you'll remember it when you upgrade to 0.22 in a month or 2 :) |
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| [03:12:47] | larrikin: | no way.. but you will, so I'll be back |
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| [03:13:04] | larrikin: | :) |
| [03:13:25] | larrikin: | but you may want ot charge next time |
| [03:13:28] | larrikin: | *to |
| [03:13:49] | meshe: | encyclopedia sphery-anica |
| [03:14:03] | sphery: | heh |
| [03:14:17] | sphery: | yeah, since iamlindoro just earned a nickel for some on-list advice, I should have charged... |
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| [03:14:39] | sphery: | (though his was gambling earnings, not fee for services) |
| [03:14:50] | meshe: | i almost got a 900 number for all the computer support calls I used to get |
| [03:14:59] | iamlindoro: | Papa needs a new master backend |
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| [03:15:58] | meshe: | i see ~$4,000 in hardware purchases in the next 4 months |
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| [03:16:34] | iamlindoro: | I actually have a stack of 2 TB hard drives right here that I need to get built into an array before the good TV starts |
| [03:17:50] | meshe: | nice, I'll probably be buying a few of those when I build my new backend Januaryish |
| [03:18:14] | meshe: | I'll be upgrading to HD then |
| [03:18:20] | iamlindoro: | cool |
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| [03:19:48] | iamlindoro: | Josh__, Is your .22 database a fresh DB or one brought over in some way from .21? |
| [03:20:17] | iamlindoro: | if so, how did you get it there? You appear to have a broken DB schema as ticket #7053 is not possible under non-broken-DB circumstances |
| [03:20:38] | sphery: | Josh__: what's the output of: mysql -umythtv -p mythconverg -e 'SELECT * FROM settings WHERE value = "mythvideo.DBSchemaVer";' |
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| [03:30:05] | wagnerrp: | oof.... a build errored, and the error is beyond my console scrollback |
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| [03:31:24] | wagnerrp: | so with 21860, does that mean 0.22 is no longer trunk? |
| [03:32:29] | sphery: | 21860 means we have a branch that will eventually become 0.22 |
| [03:32:38] | sphery: | until there's a tag for 0.22, there's no 0.22 |
| [03:32:48] | sphery: | http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/tags |
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| [03:45:01] | MarcT: | hmm the channel icon for syfy is still wrong.. guess where every the icons are coming from is not up to date. |
| [03:45:12] | MarcT: | where ever |
| [03:45:19] | iamlindoro: | lyngsat |
| [03:45:43] | MarcT: | can I submit updates to them? and if I do does anyone know the turn around? |
| [03:45:54] | iamlindoro: | but it needs to be periodically updated at services.mythtv.org too |
| [03:46:12] | iamlindoro: | you can probably go to lyngsat and get a nice high quality correct icon :) |
| [03:46:23] | MarcT: | the syfy icon still says SciFy |
| [03:46:35] | sphery: | iamlindoro: actually, isn't it lyngsat, as proxied through services? |
| [03:48:45] | sphery: | seems there is one for Syfy (but do people really want that ugly icon)? http://www.lyngsat-logo.com/tv/s_43.html |
| [03:50:40] | MarcT: | beats the old one http://imagebin.ca/view/w5pY8J.html |
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| [03:52:42] | iamlindoro: | it's probably already correct |
| [03:52:42] | iamlindoro: | lyngsat-logos.com IIRC |
| [03:52:42] | iamlindoro: | -logo |
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| [03:53:20] | android60: | For blueray quality video, what is the recommended minimum for graphics card, also, would a graphics card with hdmi cause any problems? or it just depends on the card? |
| [03:53:53] | MarcT: | HDMI would probably be recommended.. |
| [03:54:14] | android60: | ok, i haven't checked in a while but last time i did hdmi didnt work so well with linux |
| [03:54:28] | MarcT: | theoretically the nVidia ION should be capable. |
| [03:54:39] | MarcT: | um.. really? when was that? |
| [03:54:48] | android60: | looong time ago |
| [03:54:54] | MarcT: | been using HDMI for like 2 years now no issues. |
| [03:55:03] | android60: | ya this was more like 4 years ago lol |
| [03:55:08] | sphery: | iamlindoro: do you know the differences between the low-res and high-res versions of the logos? |
| [03:55:09] | MarcT: | lol |
| [03:55:33] | MarcT: | sphery several bytes? |
| [03:55:34] | android60: | if i get a good graphics card, for blueray quality if i have vdpau enabled, will basically any processor work? |
| [03:55:53] | sphery: | iamlindoro: i.e. differences in URI, reasons why we shouldn't just always go high-res, etc? |
| [03:56:04] | sphery: | (I know you looked into it after that one MythWeb patch) |
| [03:56:05] | iamlindoro: | sphery, The high res ones often have transparency |
| [03:56:07] | android60: | i have a sempron 2850+ or something like that and a core 2 duo |
| [03:56:10] | iamlindoro: | which makes them sooooo much nicer |
| [03:56:21] | sphery: | so with 0.22, the high res should always be used? |
| [03:56:30] | iamlindoro: | I spent about four hours getting all my icons massaged and manually downloaded, but it makes all the diffrerence |
| [03:56:39] | iamlindoro: | no, the script at services still looks for jpg |
| [03:56:44] | iamlindoro: | which doesn't support alpha |
| [03:56:49] | iamlindoro: | we need to mention that to xris |
| [03:56:51] | sphery: | yeah, I want to ask xr is to update the list at services |
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| [03:56:54] | iamlindoro: | to hunt the png first |
| [03:57:01] | ian___: | hello everybody |
| [03:57:12] | sphery: | but I want to have all the info to tell him how to update his script so that it pulls the high-res ones if appropriate |
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| [03:57:38] | sphery: | but I meant "should" as "now is the time to switch services, right"? |
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| [03:58:16] | iamlindoro: | yeah :) |
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| [04:01:34] | MarcT: | ok well, I'm going to bed. see you all in the morning. |
| [04:01:42] | android60: | i heard a rumor .22 is only about 2 or 3 weeks from becoming official/stable. that true? |
| [04:01:56] | wagnerrp: | more or less |
| [04:02:00] | android60: | nice |
| [04:02:15] | MarcT: | might be sooner. but you never can tell |
| [04:02:26] | iamlindoro: | But don't bet on it ;) |
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| [04:02:44] | android60: | heh |
| [04:02:53] | MarcT: | if robert has his way it wont be till arclight is ready lol |
| [04:03:29] | meshe: | trunk compile on a 1.8Ghz Atom: user 122m48.477s |
| [04:03:30] | wagnerrp: | i doubt that |
| [04:03:38] | wagnerrp: | 1.8? |
| [04:04:02] | wagnerrp: | is that one of the newer single core Zs? |
| [04:04:14] | meshe: | er 1.66Ghz |
| [04:04:32] | MarcT: | my 230 atom is only a 1.6 =p |
| [04:04:47] | meshe: | mines a 280 |
| [04:04:50] | android60: | is there a way to have it report the time it took to compile or you just kinda have to time it on your own |
| [04:04:58] | iamlindoro: | time make |
| [04:05:02] | MarcT: | time make |
| [04:05:04] | MarcT: | LOL |
| [04:05:08] | android60: | ok, ill keep that in mind |
| [04:05:21] | android60: | do you know what sort of power usage you guys are getting on those atoms? |
| [04:05:42] | MarcT: | well, I have external power and no HDD |
| [04:05:46] | wagnerrp: | kormoc: you around? |
| [04:05:54] | MarcT: | I dont have one of the killawatt things |
| [04:06:11] | MarcT: | but others report the same setup as being like 19 – 21 ? |
| [04:06:17] | android60: | i got one of newegg one time, my core2duo w/ 1 hdd uses about 60 |
| [04:06:30] | android60: | dang, thats not bad |
| [04:06:44] | android60: | MarcT: what do you have for graphics and are you watching hd? |
| [04:07:01] | iamlindoro: | It's an ION, that tells you the graphics :) |
| [04:07:02] | MarcT: | I'm using the IONITX-C |
| [04:07:07] | iamlindoro: | nVidia 9400 |
| [04:07:09] | wagnerrp: | android60: a bit high, the E6600+2GB+80GB compute nodes we have at work run about 45W idle |
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| [04:07:46] | android60: | MarcT: are you using it as a frontend and backend? |
| [04:07:55] | MarcT: | no frontend only |
| [04:08:01] | wagnerrp: | although thats with a nice antec 80+ PSU |
| [04:08:13] | wagnerrp: | same systems with a POS inwin supply pull closer to 55W |
| [04:08:24] | sphery: | 80 PLUS ftw!!! |
| [04:08:37] | android60: | ya i got an 80plus and my nas dropped about 10 watts as well |
| [04:08:38] | iamlindoro: | "ftw" FTL |
| [04:08:58] | wagnerrp: | sphery: of course those are wider cases, and dont fit on our shelves properly |
| [04:09:06] | MarcT: | android60 http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/User:MarcT#About_my_boxes |
| [04:13:51] | meshe: | onto mythplugins |
| [04:14:38] | MarcT: | mesha, you using distcc? |
| [04:14:55] | meshe: | no, i should be |
| [04:14:57] | MarcT: | or building only on the atom? |
| [04:15:11] | meshe: | building on the atom, mostly out of curiosity |
| [04:15:17] | MarcT: | heh |
| [04:15:27] | wagnerrp: | bah... i built qt with qt3support, why is mythtv failing to build |
| [04:15:35] | android60: | I'm looking forward to .22, except that the current .22 trunk in ubuntu has a broken mythtv-database that refuses to accept the mysql root pass |
| [04:16:12] | MarcT: | building over network is horrible for me.. I chroot into the folders on my backend and build there instead.. and I use distcc to let the atom help build lol |
| [04:16:49] | wagnerrp: | MarcT: works fine for me, only maybe a 20% speed loss from building on a local disk |
| [04:17:25] | meshe: | my netbook and desktop are running the same version of ubuntu, i could just compile on the desktop which takes 15 mins and build a package there |
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| [04:18:57] | wagnerrp: | damned portage... it never actually built the qt3support package |
| [04:19:46] | wagnerrp: | thats another thing ill have to mention to kormoc, missing dependency on his ebuild |
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| [04:21:46] | MarcT: | there something wring with mine? |
| [04:21:49] | MarcT: | wrong |
| [04:22:10] | MarcT: | or just personal choice |
| [04:23:29] | skimj1: | Anyone know: How can I make the internal DVD player start at either the DVD menu or just start the main title (skip FBI/previews)? I'm running 0.21 |
| [04:23:41] | wagnerrp: | i already had a copy of kormoc's on my hard drive, i dont like how you use version '9999', and apparently hes trying get get his cleaned up and put into the main portage tree |
| [04:24:55] | MarcT: | thye wont do it.. they took the old svn builds out because they didnt want to have the headaches |
| [04:26:31] | MarcT: | And I have gotten little to no feedback on my ebuilds, if people dont like the 9999 tell me, I can change it.. of course that also means that the version in your make.conf is useless as I would be switching to 0.22–21843 or something like that. |
| [04:30:08] | MarcT: | ok REALLY going to bed now. |
| [04:30:15] | MarcT: | night |
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| [05:23:22] | lowone: | vdpau... did i do something wrong with these compile flags? http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/1566445 (and i also set the playback profile thingy to vdpau) i am getting really high cpu use :( mplayer is happy |
| [05:24:24] | Loto: | did you enable to the vdpau renderer in settings / video? |
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| [05:30:31] | lowone: | i did this: -> TV Settings -> Playback -> Playback Profiles |
| [05:30:34] | lowone: | is there another place? |
| [05:30:58] | Loto: | tv settings? there is a tv settings? |
| [05:31:47] | Loto: | settings -> video settings -> player -> Render Method = vdpau |
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| [05:37:38] | Loto: | omg im retarded |
| [05:37:44] | Loto: | sorry wrong window |
| [05:37:54] | Dagmar: | It's okay. We KNow. |
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| [06:03:11] | pheld: | the backend (21837) suddenly fails to tune after being idle, except for epg scanning, for a few hours. It complains that it's unable to set DiSEq tone and voltage, but there's no switch involved. It's not the hardware that is in a bad state, because it's enough just to restart the backend to get it going again. Is this a known problem? |
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| [06:06:07] | tob: | HI |
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| [06:08:54] | tob: | i have purchased a second tv-card. My first one is already in the box and the channels a configured. Is it possible to simply duplicate all entries in mythconverg.channel and change the source id to "2" |
| [06:09:10] | tob: | or would this break something? |
| [06:09:39] | tank-man: | why not just do it thru mythtv-setup ? |
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| [06:10:02] | wagnerrp: | tob: you are misunderstanding how mythtv works |
| [06:10:14] | wagnerrp: | cards and inputs do not have channels |
| [06:10:20] | wagnerrp: | the channels are bound to a source |
| [06:10:27] | tob: | mh, but the scans create to much channels |
| [06:10:28] | wagnerrp: | and a source is bound to one or more inputs |
| [06:10:48] | wagnerrp: | if you add a new card, just bind the same source to the input on the second card |
| [06:11:21] | tob: | ok |
| [06:11:28] | tob: | thats all? :-) |
| [06:11:52] | wagnerrp: | thats all |
| [06:12:16] | tob: | thanks |
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| [06:12:34] | wagnerrp: | (assuming they are actually connected to the same source) |
| [06:12:40] | wagnerrp: | same cable line, same antenna, ... |
| [06:12:58] | tob: | jes they are, they are even the same cards |
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| [07:23:39] | juski: | hahaha the mythtvcast people want to interview actual mythtv developers. for getting the facts straight perhaps? |
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| [07:58:57] | loki_666: | is there some best practices regarding the linux disk cache and mythtv? |
| [07:59:40] | loki_666: | i'm having a strange issue, when the memory is full, and the kernel needs to free some memory to continue to cache the recording stream is stutter a bit |
| [07:59:54] | sphery: | disk cache? |
| [07:59:56] | loki_666: | it free 600mb |
| [07:59:57] | loki_666: | yep |
| [08:00:03] | sphery: | page file? |
| [08:00:09] | sphery: | swap, I mean |
| [08:00:10] | loki_666: | no swapping |
| [08:00:18] | loki_666: | it's pure disk cache |
| [08:00:38] | sphery: | yeah, you're likely to have issues when you start swapping |
| [08:00:42] | loki_666: | during the free i can see the wait active rising |
| [08:00:53] | sphery: | I don't know of any way to prevent that |
| [08:01:03] | loki_666: | my system is not swaping at all (3gb) |
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| [08:02:01] | loki_666: | any idea |
| [08:02:22] | sphery: | sorry, I'm not understanding the question (probably because it's 4am here and I should be in bed) |
| [08:02:39] | sphery: | I'll leave you to other, more-awake people |
| [08:04:35] | loki_666: | sphery, the question would be is there a way to limit the disk caching for the recording stream |
| [08:05:47] | juski: | what? |
| [08:06:09] | juski: | AFAIK myth just spits it out to the FS. So any caching, the FS does |
| [08:06:37] | sphery: | loki_666: the memory buffer? |
| [08:07:18] | sphery: | loki_666: HD Ringbuffer size (KB): The HD device ringbuffer allows the backend to weather moments of stress. The larger the ringbuffer, the longer the moments of stress can be. However, setting the size too large can cause swapping, which is detrimental. |
| [08:07:24] | sphery: | in mythtv-setup |
| [08:08:06] | loki_666: | ok i'll look into that |
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| [08:09:14] | sphery: | though unless you have extraordinarily slow storage or a very bad filesystem choice or are using ext3 without (Myth's) slow deletes enabled, you shouldn't ever have to touch it on a system w/ 3GB RAM |
| [08:09:51] | loki_666: | but i'm not sure that's the issue, the issue is more general: i mean there is no reasons to cache (done by the kernel) 2gb of live stream |
| [08:10:06] | loki_666: | i'm on ext3 with slow delete |
| [08:10:17] | loki_666: | on sata 3gbps |
| [08:12:04] | sphery: | the kernel's caching disk data to memory should have no impact on your system |
| [08:12:55] | sphery: | when it needs more of that memory, it just "uncaches" something by just overwriting the memory--it doesn't page it to disk (as the memory cache is just already just a copy of something on disk) |
| [08:13:34] | sphery: | (sure, it really updates a table, first, but still, no real work to uncache) |
| [08:14:06] | loki_666: | i know it doesnt page it to disk, i can tell you that when the kernel is freeing it's cache i can see wait active rising -> and my myht playback stuttering for half a sec |
| [08:15:02] | juski: | why's it only HD ringbuffer? |
| [08:15:16] | juski: | or do they mean Hard Drive? |
| [08:15:45] | loki_666: | juski, HD is for hard drive |
| [08:16:04] | juski: | folks usually say HDD |
| [08:16:21] | juski: | there's space to actually say DISK |
| [08:16:50] | sid3windr: | high definition ringbuffer! |
| [08:16:59] | sid3windr: | of high density |
| [08:17:02] | sid3windr: | ala floppee |
| [08:20:26] | juski: | "the HD Device ringbuffer". HD Device does not spell 'disk' out in my mind :-\ |
| [08:21:01] | juski: | some of the things in this effort are just daft. It's like 'video sources' all over again |
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| [08:27:36] | sphery: | actually, it is high definition |
| [08:28:21] | sphery: | the sdtv capture cards output a low-enough bitrate that they don't need adjustable-sized buffers |
| [08:28:54] | sphery: | (well, really, neither do HD cards, but someone complained until he got his dial to play with) |
| [08:29:08] | juski: | but in theory it could apply to anything not just 'HD' devices right? |
| [08:29:24] | sphery: | only hd devices |
| [08:29:36] | juski: | how does myth know a device is 'hd' though? |
| [08:29:36] | sphery: | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ . . . 03543#303543 |
| [08:29:45] | sphery: | ok, digital |
| [08:30:10] | sphery: | but digital because of the whole high-bitrate HDTV that sometimes exists on digital |
| [08:30:31] | juski: | 18mbits/sec is hardly high really |
| [08:30:44] | juski: | though on a busy network it could be relatively so I guess |
| [08:30:47] | sphery: | high compared to typical SDTV |
| [08:32:07] | sphery: | I guess Daniel's term, "HD-capable" is best |
| [08:32:29] | sphery: | though I don't know if the HD-PVR respects it (I don't think it does) |
| [08:35:24] | juski: | that'd be funny wouldn't it |
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| [08:35:57] | juski: | a big control dial with loads of flashing lights. doesn't actually *do* anything though :P |
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| [08:45:09] | Dibblah: | I wonder how many of these issues are caused by the sync issue in the kernel. |
| [08:46:14] | Dibblah: | http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12309#c397 |
| [08:47:14] | juski: | I wish freenx would sort out their cut/paste stuff |
| [08:47:22] | juski: | sometimes works, sometimes doesn't :-\ |
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| [09:02:08] | mikasaari2: | What could be problem when I get error like "Video Buffer outrun" or something like that when watching live TV ? I do have separate backend and frontend and the problem occurs when using NFS or streaming. Thanks a lot for ideas. |
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| [09:02:40] | mikasaari2: | Oh, and I am using latest trunk |
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| [09:03:14] | orc: | where does mythtv takes XMLTVs from? I wrote my own script since xmltv's doesn't include one for my country... |
| [09:04:24] | orc: | and I'd like for mythtv to read from it, I just don't know where it looks... |
| [09:07:53] | sphery: | mikasaari2: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Troubleshooting:Prebuffering_pause ? |
| [09:07:56] | juski: | xmltv grabbers – at least the ones which work to the xmltv spec – all use unique identifiers for every channel |
| [09:08:03] | mikasaari2: | sphery: Thanks ! |
| [09:08:14] | juski: | most xmltvids are made to look like URLs |
| [09:08:15] | sphery: | orc: Myth uses mythfilldatabase to run xmltv grabbers |
| [09:08:36] | orc: | hmm |
| [09:08:36] | sphery: | orc: but you can run mythfilldatabase and specify the location of an xmltv file (see mythfilldatabase --help) |
| [09:08:43] | orc: | kewl :) |
| [09:08:43] | orc: | thanks |
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| [09:09:18] | sphery: | orc: best approach would be to fix your grabber to actually conform to the xmltv capabilities spec so Myth will automatically find it using tv_find_grabbers |
| [09:09:56] | orc: | yeah, i just wanted to check if it actually works |
| [09:10:12] | sphery: | ahh, also run xmltv's script that verifies the xml |
| [09:10:30] | sphery: | tv_check , I think |
| [09:11:02] | sphery: | if it's wrong, mythfilldatabase won't give useful info (and might do bad things), but tv_check will help you fix it before giving it to Myth |
| [09:13:04] | orc: | thanks :) |
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| [09:37:17] | jasonbassett: | Hello |
| [09:37:46] | jasonbassett: | I am trying to boot minimyth over the network using pxe to an eeepc 701 and also a first generation fitpc |
| [09:37:52] | jasonbassett: | each have differing issues... |
| [09:38:07] | jasonbassett: | Anyone here had luck with either device? |
| [09:38:12] | juski: | neither of those platforms is supported |
| [09:38:38] | juski: | you'll need to build it yourself and modify it, or ask Pablo very nicely |
| [09:38:40] | jasonbassett: | on the fitpc i noticed the sound card driver was not available |
| [09:39:07] | jasonbassett: | well what i did to was download th kernel src for the same version and build a sound card module |
| [09:39:17] | jasonbassett: | but upon loading it is errors out |
| [09:39:39] | juski: | it is errors out? |
| [09:39:52] | jasonbassett: | and the eeepc comes up with some "unmatch in regex marked by here in m here pal ntsc" type error |
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| [09:40:06] | juski: | better ask pablo about it. it's his baby |
| [09:40:30] | jasonbassett: | ok |
| [09:40:37] | juski: | sign up in their forums, give the output of lspci & stuff & he should be able to help you |
| [09:40:46] | jasonbassett: | will do |
| [09:40:48] | jasonbassett: | thanks |
| [09:40:59] | juski: | he's dead good with that sort of stuff |
| [09:41:07] | jasonbassett: | other that that, my main backend is going very well |
| [09:41:18] | juski: | building minimyth from zero is quite a job |
| [09:42:44] | jasonbassett: | in the forum, when signin up it says "mythical television set" or "opensource dvr", whats the mythical tv set? |
| [09:45:32] | levander: | In "Upcoming Recordings" I'm getting different results than if I check an individual show for future showings. Anyone seen anything like that before? |
| [09:46:00] | juski: | jasonbassett: huh? |
| [09:46:25] | jasonbassett: | when signing up to the forum it asks me to choose what mythtv setup i have from those 2 |
| [09:46:43] | levander: | Are those names of themes? |
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| [09:47:16] | jasonbassett: | dont think so, it has given me just the standard phpbb theme |
| [09:47:25] | juski: | I think it's to help confuse spam bots |
| [09:47:39] | jasonbassett: | ah |
| [09:47:46] | juski: | like anobody with half a clue would know the answer |
| [09:47:57] | sid3windr: | yea |
| [09:48:00] | juski: | which prolly rules out human bots too |
| [09:48:00] | sid3windr: | (so which one is it?) |
| [09:48:24] | juski: | it's basically asking you what mythtv is. a mythical TV set or an open source DVR |
| [09:48:31] | jasonbassett: | i thought i was missing out on some awesome mythtv hardware for a minute |
| [09:48:35] | sid3windr: | =) |
| [09:48:44] | juski: | IRC servers should get some of that |
| [09:48:58] | juski: | there' |
| [09:49:09] | juski: | there's a maths question too! 1+2+3+4+5 ! |
| [09:49:27] | jasonbassett: | yeh, luckily i had my calculator handy |
| [09:49:32] | jasonbassett: | :-) |
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| [09:56:37] | gbee: | juski: as you asked, you've been demoted in #mythtv-theming |
| [09:57:06] | gbee: | fwiw you didn't have ops, just voice |
| [09:58:42] | juski: | yeah I didn't see the point, I'm no use at channel type stuff |
| [10:00:14] | gbee: | it's really just so devs don't get moderated should we ever have to enable emergency moderation, plus I think it's used in here to distinguish devs from the crowd |
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| [10:05:41] | PhoenixMage: | Hi Guys, |
| [10:06:06] | PhoenixMage: | what are the advantages of using openGL rather then qt? |
| [10:06:31] | juski: | looks nicer for one thing |
| [10:06:55] | juski: | secondly, qt drawing isn't hardware accelerated |
| [10:07:08] | juski: | not that myth relies upon that much yet |
| [10:07:19] | PhoenixMage: | ok |
| [10:07:21] | juski: | but it will :) |
| [10:07:22] | PhoenixMage: | thanks |
| [10:07:56] | juski: | with > qt4.4 it might be less of an issue, I dunno |
| [10:08:23] | juski: | it's reckoned to be much faster than previous versions. not that any of mythtv's ui drawing could be called slow |
| [10:08:42] | PhoenixMage: | I am using trunk |
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| [10:51:07] | mzb: | I've got a recording that mythtranscode refuses to play with (yes, I've seen related bug) |
| [10:51:28] | mzb: | what is the recommended way to demux/remux an mpeg2 recording? |
| [10:51:54] | mzb: | I can't see how to do it with either ProjectX or avidemux |
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| [11:11:09] | mzb: | dm, looks like I've got it (the concept) now. |
| [11:11:40] | mzb: | demux with ProjectX (or whatever?) and then combine the audio+video with avidemux |
| [11:11:59] | mzb: | could have sworn I had a nice command line solution ... but stuffed if I can remember it now ;) |
| [11:14:34] | mzb: | hmm .. maybe not, now I'm getting "invalid dts/pts combination" |
| [11:15:07] | mzb: | (although it appears to have worked) |
| [11:18:36] | juski: | I find ffmpeg -i $file -acodec copy -vcodec copy $outfile does the trick on things mythtranscode fails on in the majority of cases |
| [11:25:05] | mzb: | hmm ... thanks juski, I'll see if I can remember that next time ;) |
| [11:25:32] | juski: | merely stripping out extraneous crap seems to help a lot of the time |
| [11:25:54] | mzb: | (5.5GB of music videos in a single recording |
| [11:26:22] | juski: | I remember that there used to be issues if the stream contents changed during a recording. no idea how gracefully they're handled now |
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| [11:26:45] | juski: | it's been a *long* time since I transcoded anything other than DVB radio recordings |
| [11:27:45] | mzb: | hmm |
| [11:28:02] | mzb: | I've moved away from "audio-only" formats ;) |
| [11:28:47] | mzb: | 30GB of audio (iirc) vs >200GB of uncompressed music videos ... well uncompressed in the sense that the mpeg2 is what I receive |
| [11:29:07] | juski: | if I could get music videos without annoying screen junk, I would. the majority of the ones I do have now are taken from DVD |
| [11:30:04] | juski: | <3 the work of Michel Gondry, Chris Cunningham et al |
| [11:30:14] | mzb: | meh, not concerned about logos/etc ... it's all just pictures with noise ;) |
| [11:30:54] | juski: | music channels over here cover half the screen :( |
| [11:31:05] | mzb: | :| |
| [11:31:09] | MarcT: | I have a feeling they corporations are attempting to kill some shows. Moved some to Friday |
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| [11:31:29] | mzb: | out of interest, two related questions: |
| [11:31:57] | juski: | mzb: yeah they have scrollers & 'up next' junk – among the other junk is a feature where you can SMS message the channel & see it appear |
| [11:32:17] | mzb: | 1) when editing, at what _exact_ point in time is the cutlist updated? When the cutpoint is inserted, or when editing mode is exited |
| [11:32:22] | juski: | many a vid ruined by txt spk |
| [11:32:35] | juski: | mzb: my guess would be the latter |
| [11:32:48] | mzb: | 2) when mythtranscoding is the cutlist loaded as soon as the job starts, or is it read as needed(?) ?? |
| [11:33:06] | juski: | there's only one way to find out ;-) |
| [11:33:17] | mzb: | ie: can I put cutpoints in for the next job (on the same file) while the first job is running |
| [11:33:25] | mzb: | yes, absolutely right ;) |
| [11:33:48] | juski: | well, two ways. 1 – try it or 2 – look in the source :P |
| [11:34:15] | MarcT: | I believe cutpoints are saved as soon as they are entered. |
| [11:34:55] | MarcT: | For transcoding, If I recall correctly the custlist is loaded before the job starts |
| [11:35:21] | MarcT: | So no you can not modify it as it is transcoding and have it effect the transcode |
| [11:35:49] | MarcT: | However, if there are 2 jobs, then the second job will respect the modifications you save. |
| [11:36:00] | juski: | mzb: so when are you going to supply patches to allow splitting recordings up? ;-) |
| [11:36:03] | MarcT: | because it does not start until after the first. |
| [11:36:48] | mzb: | patches? I've described my technique numerous times |
| [11:37:14] | mzb: | Insert cutpoints ... name the recording ... transcode with user job |
| [11:37:15] | mzb: | rinse and repeat |
| [11:37:15] | MarcT: | Yes but it will not be added to myth unless you supply the feature patch. |
| [11:37:27] | mzb: | there's nothing to add |
| [11:37:30] | MarcT: | oh |
| [11:37:39] | mzb: | all the functionality already exists |
| [11:37:46] | MarcT: | LOL I didnt know. First I heard about recording splits |
| [11:37:57] | mzb: | I just have a user job |
| [11:38:25] | mzb: | so, the recording gets named "Video Hits – Prince – Some Gay Song" |
| [11:39:02] | juski: | it'd be way nicer if you could specify a mode where it splits the file though :) |
| [11:39:03] | mzb: | run the user job on it and you end up with an mpeg2 file called /myth/video/videos/Music/Prince/Prince – Some Gay Song.mpg" |
| [11:39:30] | mzb: | yeah, but I'd still have to name each song manually, so this isn't that bad |
| [11:39:38] | juski: | hmm true |
| [11:40:46] | juski: | another way you could do it is mark all the songs as if they were parts of the recording you want to keep & supply a list of filenames to the script then it could possibly do it all in one lop |
| [11:40:53] | mzb: | and yes I can edit while the last transcode is running |
| [11:41:45] | mzb: | yes, true ... that's what I'd hoped originally ... but probably a) beyond me atm b) I suspect I'd be the only one using it ;) |
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| [11:43:01] | mzb: | just trying to catch up ... haven't done any for a few months (with moving house, having baby, etc) |
| [11:43:04] | mzb: | find /myth/video/videos/Music/ -type f | egrep -e "\.mp.*g$" | wc -l |
| [11:43:05] | mzb: | 1349 |
| [11:43:09] | mzb: | getting there ;) |
| [11:43:24] | juski: | heh |
| [11:43:26] | mzb: | 210G /myth/video/videos/Music/ |
| [11:43:44] | juski: | I did hope that when DVD came out you'd be able to buy DVD music singles. No hope |
| [11:43:47] | mzb: | house warming this weekend ... just trying to add a little polish |
| [11:44:10] | juski: | mzb: mythvideo's new filtering will be a massive boon for you then come 0.22 |
| [11:44:31] | mzb: | how so? |
| [11:44:51] | juski: | you'll be able to search/filter :) |
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| [11:45:42] | juski: | dunno about playlisting.. think it's already there |
| [11:46:03] | mzb: | um ... nah .. I use my dodgy script method (again) |
| [11:46:20] | mzb: | I have a .pls playlist that's run by a custom command (the playlist can be empty) |
| [11:46:31] | juski: | oh and the telnet interface now has a 'play $file' command :) |
| [11:46:44] | tmkt: | morning |
| [11:46:52] | mzb: | the custom command generates the contents of the list ... and then starts mplayer/xine/whatever to play the contents of the list |
| [11:46:56] | mzb: | works quite well |
| [11:47:07] | PhoenixMage: | Do I need any audio libraries installed if I am outputting DVB to my TV using HDMI? |
| [11:47:41] | mzb: | currently have control via IR + bluetooth (pywii !) and telnet+RF (using X10 keyfob remote) |
| [11:47:58] | mzb: | play $file ... hmm |
| [11:48:24] | mzb: | still not sure if it helps me in my quest to have random-order music video playback ;) |
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| [12:07:13] | mycosys: | where would i find a build script for trunk? |
| [12:08:20] | mycosys: | have built for win, running pre packaged for mythbuntu, want to build for Suse11.1respin |
| [12:08:33] | juski: | ./configure then make then make install. repeat for mythplugins, then myththemes, and themes ;-) |
| [12:08:35] | GreyFoxx: | echo "./configure; make; make install" >> mo.sh ; sh mo.sh |
| [12:08:38] | GreyFoxx: | bam |
| [12:08:45] | gardengnome: | oh yeah |
| [12:08:53] | mycosys: | that hard eh lol |
| [12:09:25] | juski: | no rocket scientist degree necessary :) |
| [12:09:54] | GreyFoxx: | seriously though if you are looking for something to make a package for you there might be something in the contrib directory... I've never really paid attention to those |
| [12:09:54] | mycosys: | need a subversion client i presume? does it check dependancies? |
| [12:10:18] | juski: | no it doesn't but apt-get build-dep mythtv will grab just about everything |
| [12:10:30] | juski: | it misses a couple of things like libmp3lame-dev IIRC |
| [12:10:32] | mycosys: | if suse had apt it might |
| [12:10:38] | juski: | meh |
| [12:10:44] | mycosys: | lol |
| [12:11:50] | mycosys: | what can i do – i like kde and yast, if they do it as well on a deb distro i will move in a second |
| [12:12:01] | juski: | configure will probably catch the obvious stuff for you |
| [12:12:20] | juski: | how much that includes I dunno |
| [12:12:51] | mycosys: | lol |
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| [12:13:04] | mycosys: | is there a list of deps somewhere? |
| [12:13:12] | mycosys: | just top level |
| [12:13:20] | juski: | somewhere, not on the mythtv site |
| [12:14:39] | mycosys: | lol |
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| [12:16:13] | j-rod: | there is both apt and yum for suse |
| [12:16:34] | j-rod: | and yum-builddep mythtv will do the same thing as apt-get build-dep mythtv |
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| [12:23:48] | mzb: | mycosys, this is what I use: http://openpaste.org/en/16784/ |
| [12:24:05] | mzb: | deps coming |
| [12:24:14] | mzb: | (for Debian) |
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| [12:25:22] | mzb: | mythtv-dev-requirements: http://openpaste.org/en/16785/ |
| [12:25:24] | mycosys: | thx jrod, mzb |
| [12:25:44] | mycosys: | found this too http://svn.mythtv.org/svn/trunk/packaging/rpm/build_myth.sh |
| [12:25:57] | mzb: | run requirements are different depending on the box |
| [12:26:11] | mzb: | for unichrome add: xserver-xorg-video-openchrome |
| [12:26:12] | mycosys: | doesnt dep alsa tho does it? |
| [12:26:37] | mzb: | err ... don't think it does for runtime, and probably builds without it |
| [12:26:43] | mzb: | ask an expert ;) |
| [12:27:16] | mycosys: | lol |
| [12:27:56] | mzb: | oh ... there's one more thing to add to the dev list |
| [12:27:59] | mzb: | python |
| [12:28:00] | mycosys: | will it need some kind of vdpau-dev pkg? |
| [12:28:03] | mycosys: | ahh |
| [12:28:21] | mzb: | if you use vdpau ;) |
| [12:28:41] | mycosys: | laptop with a quadro NV160 – be silly not to lol |
| [12:28:50] | mzb: | I've no idea |
| [12:29:05] | Josh_: | mycosys, IIRC, the vdpau dev programs are provided by the nvidia development drivers |
| [12:29:14] | mzb: | can't remember if I built with it or not on this box (2x 9800GT) |
| [12:29:20] | mycosys: | sweet |
| [12:29:29] | mzb: | err |
| [12:29:43] | mycosys: | 2 9800GTs???? i presume that is a dual booter? |
| [12:30:19] | mzb: | it is ... now a multi-seat ubuntu box, but never use Vista |
| [12:30:24] | mzb: | vdpau-dev – Video Decode and Presentation API for Unix |
| [12:30:24] | Josh_: | mycosys, my laptop's got 2x Nvidia 8600M GT's :) |
| [12:30:25] | mycosys: | this one was dual 9600GT, but sacrificed one to go into a myth server rebuild – dont game enough |
| [12:31:00] | mycosys: | 2x8600mGT<1x9600GT lol |
| [12:31:23] | Josh_: | mycosys, *sigh*, my secret's out :) |
| [12:31:25] | mzb: | this box was supposed to be the development tool for a contract job ... but it fell through, and I've still got it :) |
| [12:31:36] | mycosys: | ahhh – nice |
| [12:31:38] | mzb: | (XPS730 w/ 3x 500GB .... etc) |
| [12:32:28] | mycosys: | Latitude E6400, 1x160G, 1x320G(both caviar blk), NVS160 etc ;) |
| [12:32:30] | mzb: | but my *real* machine is an X2 4400+ with 7 drives and 4 tuners (it works harder;) |
| [12:32:55] | mzb: | oh ... XPS730 is Q9550 2.83GHz .... totally waster on Vista ;) |
| [12:33:36] | mycosys: | lol – myth box is a northwoodHT 2.8, soon to be sempron64 3600(?) with 9600GT, and yep, worked hard |
| [12:34:29] | mzb: | sempron better than p4? |
| [12:34:29] | mycosys: | keep trying to convince fiancee that vista is a waste of a machine but she loves it |
| [12:34:39] | mzb: | meh |
| [12:34:58] | mzb: | mine likes Ubuntu (now) ;) |
| [12:35:00] | mycosys: | is an athlon64 with less cache, so yes, but the main thing is PCI for the drives etc |
| [12:35:20] | mycosys: | *PCIe |
| [12:35:32] | mzb: | yes, I know ... I've got the 3400+ (the slowest/cheapest 64bit version?) |
| [12:35:41] | mzb: | (socket 754 though) |
| [12:35:52] | mycosys: | eep |
| [12:35:58] | mycosys: | this is AM2 |
| [12:36:01] | mzb: | all the other AMD's I've got are s939 |
| [12:36:11] | mzb: | s/all/both |
| [12:36:25] | mycosys: | all my 754s are retired |
| [12:36:28] | mzb: | X2 3800+ and X2 4400+ |
| [12:36:44] | mzb: | yeah, mine too |
| [12:36:54] | mycosys: | 2 AM2s going – sem 3800 and brisbane 5200+ |
| [12:36:58] | mzb: | still sitting here somewhere ;) |
| [12:37:02] | mzb: | ah |
| [12:37:05] | ** PhoenixMage just bought a new Zotac ION ** | |
| [12:37:18] | mycosys: | schweeet – frontend? |
| [12:37:23] | PhoenixMage: | indeed |
| [12:37:28] | mycosys: | ITX-A-C? |
| [12:37:31] | PhoenixMage: | building from scratch |
| [12:37:37] | PhoenixMage: | ITX-D |
| [12:38:00] | PhoenixMage: | In an Antec MicroFusion 350 |
| [12:38:22] | mycosys: | nice |
| [12:38:33] | mycosys: | rather like the laptop PSU of the A-C |
| [12:38:35] | PhoenixMage: | Buying a blu-ray drive, capture card and WD Green 1.5Tb on the weekend for it |
| [12:38:54] | PhoenixMage: | Thought about it but the MF350 comes with PSU |
| [12:38:57] | mycosys: | why not Scorpio Blue? |
| [12:39:04] | PhoenixMage: | Couldnt justify the extra $30AU |
| [12:39:06] | mzb: | MFE is the MBE as well (due to a slight *cough* error on my part during moving house ... took the root server apart;) ... ah well ... side effect is that we're HD-capable now ;) |
| [12:39:07] | mycosys: | or travelstar? |
| [12:39:17] | PhoenixMage: | Scorpio Blue |
| [12:39:20] | PhoenixMage: | ? |
| [12:39:33] | mzb: | the 3400+ is sitting as parts waiting for a purpose (or home) |
| [12:39:52] | PhoenixMage: | I am about to replave my 7 servers with atoms I think |
| [12:39:55] | mycosys: | lol – MBE is MFE here too – or was supposed to be lol |
| [12:39:58] | PhoenixMage: | cheap and do the job for my home lab |
| [12:40:09] | mzb: | (I've recently reduced my machine count ... esp the 2/47 ones;) |
| [12:40:11] | mycosys: | Scorpio blue is 5400RPM 2.5" |
| [12:40:38] | mycosys: | up to 500G iirc |
| [12:40:52] | mzb: | now have 24/7 = (tuner, xps, pbx) and on demand = (bedtv, etc) |
| [12:40:54] | PhoenixMage: | I have an old 80Gb HD in it atm, I'll probably leave that to be truth just want the extra space in my server for storage |
| [12:41:16] | mycosys: | fair – lot of people prefer the 2.5" for quiet |
| [12:41:16] | PhoenixMage: | I have never had a HTPC b4 so its a first for me |
| [12:41:30] | PhoenixMage: | I bought a new Panasonic Viera 50" about 2 months ago |
| [12:41:43] | mycosys: | OH WOW! |
| [12:41:52] | mycosys: | IPS goodness |
| [12:41:53] | PhoenixMage: | I wont hear it, my bedroom where it would be living is huge |
| [12:42:06] | PhoenixMage: | IPS? |
| [12:42:21] | mycosys: | In-Plane-Switching LCD |
| [12:42:22] | ** PhoenixMage feels out of touch ** | |
| [12:42:34] | PhoenixMage: | I have no idea what that is |
| [12:42:49] | mycosys: | MUCH better colour and contrast than TN LCDs which is what most are |
| [12:43:02] | mycosys: | and near perfect off angle viewing |
| [12:43:05] | PhoenixMage: | oic |
| [12:43:11] | mycosys: | you choose VERY well |
| [12:43:19] | PhoenixMage: | Viera is plasma |
| [12:43:44] | mycosys: | rly? bugger – mum bought the 32" Viera IPS a couple months back |
| [12:44:04] | PhoenixMage: | I knew from HT ppl that the panasonics had the best picture |
| [12:44:12] | mycosys: | yup |
| [12:44:22] | PhoenixMage: | I am putting in a JVC HD-1 prjector downstairs |
| [12:44:24] | mycosys: | apart from trinitron and oled of course |
| [12:44:55] | ** mycosys still runs trinitrons, cos hes cheap and loves colour ** | |
| [12:45:27] | ** PhoenixMage has a trinitron CRT ** | |
| [12:45:38] | mycosys: | they have magnificent colour |
| [12:45:58] | PhoenixMage: | sitting in my study, never gets used much anymore |
| [12:46:41] | PhoenixMage: | its only small though |
| [12:47:58] | mycosys: | mine are just 21" units :( |
| [12:48:11] | mycosys: | full HD tho lol – gr8 if ur up close rofl |
| [12:48:36] | PhoenixMage: | http://panasonic.com.au/products/details.cfm?objectID=5086 |
| [12:48:43] | PhoenixMage: | My plasma |
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| [12:49:15] | mzb: | hmm ... looks like the ARIA music show on GO! is just a loop of a dozen songs ... I'm guessing that changes each night. |
| [12:49:33] | mzb: | any of you ozzies watched GO! in the wee hours? ;) |
| [12:49:41] | PhoenixMage: | Nope |
| [12:49:52] | PhoenixMage: | but it was a good alternative to oprah when I was sick yesterday |
| [12:50:22] | mycosys: | not that i recall -0 i think there may be a couple interesting shows on then tho – but i forget – i dont watch live tv rofl |
| [12:50:39] | juski: | Go, as in the movie? |
| [12:50:47] | mycosys: | as in channel 88 |
| [12:50:51] | juski: | ah no. lol |
| [12:50:56] | PhoenixMage: | New Aussie DVB channel |
| [12:51:18] | juski: | you actually have 88 channels or more? |
| [12:51:26] | mycosys: | no rofl – 14 |
| [12:51:34] | juski: | so why call a channel '88' ? |
| [12:51:35] | mzb: | no ... they like "EASY" numbers |
| [12:51:46] | mycosys: | 8 is the main channel |
| [12:51:54] | juski: | they like easy scheduling, I know that much ;) |
| [12:52:02] | mzb: | eg: main channel for this company is 8, HD is 80, new "HD" channel is 88 (although I'm yet to see HD content on it;) |
| [12:52:05] | mycosys: | 81,82 and 83 were in use, they moved 83 to 88 |
| [12:52:22] | juski: | BBC scheduling is starting to get really sloppy :( |
| [12:52:24] | mycosys: | 80 is the HD i tink |
| [12:52:37] | mzb: | similar situation for the 4 other broadcasters |
| [12:52:37] | PhoenixMage: | 7 Digital shits me, all the same thing |
| [12:52:48] | mzb: | 2,20,21,22,23 |
| [12:52:51] | juski: | how VT playback can end up over time I'll never know |
| [12:52:53] | mzb: | 6,60,66 |
| [12:52:57] | mzb: | and so on |
| [12:52:58] | mycosys: | should try prime – NEVER ends on time – stuffs recodings even if u put 10min on |
| [12:53:17] | mzb: | I have 10pre/20post on most commercial stations |
| [12:53:19] | juski: | I've had to pad by 15 on some shows |
| [12:53:30] | mycosys: | suck – i REALLY need a second tuner just to watch 1 at a time |
| [12:53:33] | juski: | they've even taken to starting early |
| [12:53:33] | mycosys: | *sucks |
| [12:53:54] | mycosys: | in prime time? |
| [12:54:00] | juski: | yeah |
| [12:54:06] | mycosys: | **** |
| [12:54:13] | PhoenixMage: | I am about to buy 2 Dvico Dual 4s |
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| [12:54:21] | mycosys: | thought primetv was bad – they only go over 15 min at night |
| [12:54:32] | juski: | I get my time via NTP. when I first started using myth they were all fairly bang on |
| [12:54:34] | mycosys: | looked at asus U3100minis? |
| [12:54:35] | juski: | not now |
| [12:54:49] | mzb: | mycosys, hence me having four ... although one is external ... I'd use the DD4 I've got but I'd have to remove one of the 3x DTV1000T's for that |
| [12:55:06] | ** juski states for the record he's not enough faith in VDPAU to invest money in hardware yet :P ** | |
| [12:55:34] | tmkt: | 88% complete |
| [12:55:35] | tmkt: | ice |
| [12:55:36] | ** mycosys just ditched sli for it lol ** | |
| [12:55:41] | mzb: | he's talking about the USB tuner's designed (or sold for/with) the eeepc's |
| [12:56:03] | mycosys: | thats the 1s – VERY sensitive, and cheap, and reliable |
| [12:56:08] | juski: | won't trust a USB tuner as far as I could throw one |
| [12:56:13] | PhoenixMage: | mycosys: they work out of the box? |
| [12:56:15] | mycosys: | ur about to |
| [12:56:24] | mycosys: | they are MADE for linux dude |
| [12:56:30] | juski: | yeah yeah |
| [12:56:53] | mycosys: | huappage novat-t-500 and divico dual 4 ARE USB |
| [12:56:54] | juski: | wait til you see your first mysterious USB disconnects |
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| [12:57:23] | juski: | mycosys: I know, which is partly why I don't own either :) |
| [12:57:32] | mycosys: | have – i2c errors – rebuilt driver – but that was on the older u3000mini – u3100mini doesnt hav the issue |
| [12:57:57] | mycosys: | with the fresh driver havent seen a disconnect in months |
| [12:58:31] | mycosys: | but ur about to |
| [12:58:40] | mzb: | ooh ... snagged another 4-minute-wonder ! :) |
| [12:58:53] | mzb: | (not on programme) |
| [12:59:03] | mycosys: | 4min wonder? |
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| [13:00:28] | PhoenixMage: | Buying 2 of them is the same price as buying a dual 4 |
| [13:00:44] | mzb: | lol, make that + 1minute's worth of credits! |
| [13:00:47] | mycosys: | $120? |
| [13:01:18] | mzb: | yeah, I think it was a series of music videos ... sort of a competition run by JJJ? |
| [13:01:30] | PhoenixMage: | They are $65 each at MSY and a dual 4 is $135 |
| [13:02:42] | mycosys: | $15 less – and sensitivity is known great – LOT of happy aussie users http://www.overclockers.com.au/wiki/MythTV#Su . . . ner_adapters |
| [13:02:52] | PhoenixMage: | Pay $5 more but at least the dual 4 is bracketed to the pci slots rather then hanging out the back with the coax attached |
| [13:03:19] | mzb: | http://www.abc.net.au/corp/pubs/media/s1001823.htm |
| [13:03:25] | mzb: | (the link doesn't work) |
| [13:03:28] | mycosys: | 'hanging out the back' means you can move the RF secion 3m away fro the RF heavy PC |
| [13:04:07] | mzb: | heh ... if you're signal's that bad that 3cm makes a difference then you've got problems |
| [13:04:10] | mycosys: | *section |
| [13:04:27] | mzb: | RG6 quad all the way! ;) |
| [13:04:35] | mycosys: | 3m, not 3cm, and ever hear of the inverse square law? |
| [13:04:47] | PhoenixMage: | I have a new antenna on the roof and everything is RG6 quad core |
| [13:04:51] | mzb: | ah _metres_ |
| [13:05:04] | mycosys: | reasonable USB cable length |
| [13:05:12] | ** mzb recalibrates his eyes and finds his coffee cup is empty ** | |
| [13:05:25] | PhoenixMage: | Gonna have to put a booster in for the tuners |
| [13:05:50] | mycosys: | bugger |
| [13:05:54] | mzb: | hmm ... I've found USB tuners to be problematic at times (eg: recovering from power outage without replugging) |
| [13:06:13] | PhoenixMage: | Granted the USB would be handy if Telstra decide to send me away for work |
| [13:06:16] | mycosys: | few years backl for sure, still for a lot o cheapies |
| [13:06:20] | mzb: | what's your signal strength like? |
| [13:06:26] | mycosys: | whose? |
| [13:06:30] | mzb: | PhoenixMage, |
| [13:06:39] | PhoenixMage: | No idea |
| [13:06:47] | mzb: | femon -H |
| [13:06:54] | mycosys: | what does myth say when u bring up a live channel? |
| [13:07:11] | mycosys: | (q is more important than strength) |
| [13:07:23] | PhoenixMage: | Wouldnt know how to measure it, was told when it was put up that if splitting more then 3 ways would need a booster |
| [13:07:36] | mzb: | disregard the % numbers ... it's more important that it doesn't vary ;) (ie: some of my tuners are at 100% when they say 20) |
| [13:07:40] | mycosys: | they like to sell stuff |
| [13:07:45] | PhoenixMage: | Havent bought my capture cards yet mycosys |
| [13:07:51] | mzb: | I'm splitting four ways |
| [13:07:51] | mycosys: | ahhhh |
| [13:08:11] | mzb: | but then I could just about spit on the transmitter ;) |
| [13:08:14] | mycosys: | i get good 3 way out of an internal aerial and dual shield |
| [13:08:30] | Josh_: | PhoenixMage, there's all kinds of guides regarding splitting cable, the main thing is that if you split the cable the signal is degreaded through each splitter you go through. |
| [13:08:39] | mycosys: | admitted the aerial is 43 element and i am 5k from the transmitter |
| [13:09:04] | mzb: | and I've got my *cough* home-made "wooden" aerial ;) (200MHz digital-only) |
| [13:09:11] | mzb: | lol |
| [13:09:13] | PhoenixMage: | lol |
| [13:09:21] | mzb: | 43 ... overkill? |
| [13:09:38] | mycosys: | lol – $30 at jaycar saved me another try at a phased array – you would think it would eb a sinch for an electronic tech rofl |
| [13:09:39] | PhoenixMage: | Josh_: I wouldnt buy a booster unless I saw problems, I am more of a suck it and see first kind of person |
| [13:09:53] | mzb: | ah, a multiband |
| [13:11:09] | mycosys: | http://www.jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?ID=L . . . SUBCATID=478 yay for trade pricing |
| [13:11:12] | Josh_: | PhoenixMage, I'm on Comcast and I have my cable split once(to the cable modem) then three ways (to my two analogue TVs) then 4 more ways (to my myth tuners) |
| [13:11:22] | Josh_: | PhoenixMage, no booster needed. |
| [13:11:40] | mzb: | btw, this particular 4-minute-wonder was produced by Film Victoria! |
| [13:11:45] | mycosys: | josh – you must have some serious qual cable and splitters |
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| [13:12:16] | mzb: | "Inga Liljstrom – Eve" |
| [13:12:39] | Josh_: | mycosys, RG-6 quad cable, dont know the spec on the splitters. |
| [13:13:01] | mycosys: | bit better than my rg59/u for a start lol |
| [13:13:33] | mycosys: | plan to get some rg6 – in due time lol |
| [13:13:46] | juski: | cable is driven hard, unlike say, an antenna :P |
| [13:13:49] | bjb1959_: | I have a strange problem. when I reboot my machine the first time I start mythtv to watch tv or record the picture is eratic, jittery, starts, stops etc until I exit mythtv then start it again. then everything is fine. any ideas? |
| [13:14:17] | Josh_: | mycosys, with a small amount of bitching to my cableco, the tech brought me enough cable to rewire my house :_) |
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| [13:14:40] | Josh_: | bjb1959_, what tuner? |
| [13:14:48] | ** mycosys wonders if he shoudl hassle friends that run a comms company lol ** | |
| [13:15:08] | Josh_: | bjb1959_, there's reports of a specific tuner that the first recording is no good, but all subsequent recordings are find. |
| [13:15:12] | mycosys: | bjb1959_ also – what GPU? |
| [13:15:51] | bjb1959_: | hauppaugue 16xx (can't remember the exact number and nvidia 7600 |
| [13:17:11] | Josh_: | bjb1959_, ATSC or DVB tuner? |
| [13:17:22] | Josh_: | I've got the HVR-1600 ATSC |
| [13:17:24] | oobe: | for some reason mtd seems to be running on my remote frontend and it often seems to use a lot of cpu does anyone know how it gets enabled and disbaled? |
| [13:17:40] | mycosys: | 1600 is atsc |
| [13:17:49] | bjb1959_: | josh, not running the digital side just the atsc side |
| [13:18:13] | Josh_: | bjb1959_, atsc is digital. You mean you're only using the analog portion of the card? |
| [13:18:49] | bjb1959_: | josh, yea, sorry. it has two inputs one for digital and one for analog I think. not using digital input |
| [13:19:18] | mzb: | and another one (4mw) by the bumblebeez! |
| [13:19:27] | bjb1959_: | what is the command I run to get the card info? lspci? |
| [13:19:28] | mycosys: | you know digital requires FAR less machine power? |
| [13:20:10] | Josh_: | mycosys, the HVR-1600 has a hardware encoder for the analog side. Is that what you're referring to? |
| [13:20:10] | tmkt: | why would you not use the digital? |
| [13:20:23] | mycosys: | ahhh – sorry – my bad |
| [13:20:25] | tmkt: | atsc/digital 5.1 surround sound/hdtv |
| [13:20:32] | tmkt: | analog is just plain oogly |
| [13:21:15] | Josh_: | mycosys, tmkt still, I agree, analog is nasty – especially with an HD-capable TV. (I still have to use mine, sadly) |
| [13:21:50] | mycosys: | bjb1959_ http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV-HVR-1600 http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_hvr-1600 info on the card – cant see any known issues – what is the system made up of? |
| [13:21:59] | PhoenixMage: | Man I wish I could get Travla miniitx rack mount cases here |
| [13:22:42] | mycosys: | travla? |
| [13:23:34] | PhoenixMage: | http://www.travla.com/product_d.php?id=0000000015 |
| [13:24:04] | PhoenixMage: | Thats what I need for my atom servers when I buy them |
| [13:24:21] | PhoenixMage: | When I got the house built I terminated all my comms under the stairs |
| [13:24:34] | PhoenixMage: | half height rack in there |
| [13:24:41] | mycosys: | wouldnt be able to cool a frontend – b ok for a backend with usb tuners |
| [13:24:55] | PhoenixMage: | fits perfectly under the landing |
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| [13:25:16] | PhoenixMage: | nah, this to replace my incredibly dated lab servers |
| [13:25:16] | Josh_: | I hate rebranded crap. My laptop came with a rebranded avermedia USB tuner, I can't find drivers for to save my life. |
| [13:25:37] | mycosys: | chipset? |
| [13:26:18] | Josh_: | mycosys, I'm looking. There's two conexant chips |
| [13:26:36] | Josh_: | an "mpeg II A/V encoder" I'm assuming is for the analoge |
| [13:26:46] | Josh_: | CX23416–22 |
| [13:27:29] | Josh_: | and another , smaller, conexant chip, labelled "CX25843–242" |
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| [13:28:53] | juski: | whoah mpeg encoding onboard? neato |
| [13:29:54] | juski: | so it's a cx25843 broadcast AV decoder |
| [13:30:17] | juski: | and an mpeg2 encoder in one USB box |
| [13:30:39] | juski: | in this context 'decoder' just means it turns things into digital form |
| [13:32:50] | Josh_: | which sounds right, it's supposely a hybrid USB tuner. |
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| [13:33:42] | Josh_: | Can't find anything on either Toshiba's, nor Avermedia's website, regarding driver supprot |
| [13:33:57] | juski: | they never mention linux support |
| [13:34:03] | juski: | they never mention linux |
| [13:34:14] | Josh_: | it says "TOSHIBA" in big letters on the top of the box, but on bottom, it's got 'www.avermedia.com' embossed in the plastic |
| [13:34:40] | Josh_: | who is "they"? |
| [13:34:51] | juski: | who do you think? Manufacturers |
| [13:35:13] | juski: | don't you know linux doesn't actually exist in the minds of most people ? ;) |
| [13:35:46] | juski: | it's easy to forget that tha vast majority of folks have never seen the word 'linux' |
| [13:35:59] | Josh_: | juski, I understand that. However, I havent even found WINDOWS drivers for this thing yet. |
| [13:36:21] | Josh_: | and it's over two years old. |
| [13:36:42] | juski: | heh |
| [13:36:54] | mycosys: | # AVerMedia AverTV Hybrid Ultra USB (AP6R) ? |
| [13:37:07] | juski: | don't worry about it. I bought a leadtek HW mpeg2 encoding tuner from ebay that I never got working |
| [13:37:14] | juski: | no drivers anywhere for it |
| [13:37:20] | juski: | at least not the mpeg encoder |
| [13:38:00] | Josh_: | mycosys, the styling of the box is identical to mine |
| [13:38:06] | Josh_: | the labelling is different of course |
| [13:38:09] | Josh_: | that could be it. |
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| [13:38:58] | Josh_: | - radio |
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| [13:41:43] | ** PhoenixMage wonders if he needs to compile both dri and glx support into x ** | |
| [13:41:57] | PhoenixMage: | too late to be thinking about this stuff |
| [13:42:39] | mycosys: | y compile x??? |
| [13:42:49] | PhoenixMage: | why not? |
| [13:42:59] | juski: | 4MOARSPEEDZ |
| [13:43:01] | mycosys: | waste of effort |
| [13:43:02] | PhoenixMage: | It interests me how it works |
| [13:43:14] | mycosys: | make doesnt show u much o that |
| [13:43:25] | Josh_: | we have a term in gentoo for people like that. They're called "ricers" |
| [13:43:35] | mycosys: | sounds appropriate |
| [13:44:06] | PhoenixMage: | meh |
| [13:44:15] | mycosys: | gonna be runing fluxbox too? |
| [13:44:32] | mycosys: | or just no wm? |
| [13:45:02] | PhoenixMage: | actually on my desktop I was running e17 |
| [13:45:07] | gardengnome: | the old classic: http://funroll-loops.info/ |
| [13:46:09] | Josh_: | gardengnome, haha |
| [13:46:55] | Josh_: | gardengnome, OMGZ WUT R UR CLFAGS? |
| [13:46:56] | PhoenixMage: | For me its more about knowing exactly what packages are on my systems and that the code has been vetted by the community rather then morons (such as those at Debian) who modify code to stop compiler warnings and introduce flaws into packages |
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| [13:48:06] | PhoenixMage: | So yeah, speed is not my reason |
| [13:48:07] | Josh_: | That site is awesome |
| [13:49:51] | PhoenixMage: | It is funny |
| [13:50:14] | Josh_: | "its -O3 the letter, not -03 the number" |
| [13:50:16] | bjb1959_: | josh, sorry about that, got on a call at work. system is about 1 year old AMD dual core 5400+ 4 GB memory, nvidia 7600 256 MB pretty basic stuff and as I say it works fine once I stop and then re-start mythtv |
| [13:50:19] | gardengnome: | MAKEOPTS="-j256" rotflmao |
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| [13:53:37] | pmind: | hi, everyone! |
| [13:53:57] | PhoenixMage: | oh, and I hate gentoo about as much as anyone |
| [13:53:59] | Josh_: | Steps to Reproduce: – 1. Join an IRC channel; 2. Wait for a Gentoo user to come in, talk about how he "emerged" this and that and all the "optimizations" he used, but something still isn't working; 3. Mention that he should have read the FAQ before /joining and /kick him. |
| [13:54:31] | pmind: | can anyone help me? I'm trying to configure micrpphone on my mythtv. I can't see no driver in microphone box |
| [13:55:37] | pmind: | in my devices list, I can't see /dev/dsp |
| [13:55:42] | juski: | funroll-loops.info is not funny to me. when the facts of the situation are so sad, it's no longer funny |
| [13:55:54] | juski: | mythtv doesn't use microphones |
| [13:56:18] | juski: | if you mean mythphone, wave goodbye to it in 0.22 :) |
| [13:56:28] | Josh_: | and I think the mythphone support was removed in trunk. |
| [13:56:31] | PhoenixMage: | "I essentially started using Gentoo because my ....ing KDE clock would never show the right time in Red Hat." |
| [13:56:42] | sid3windr: | where in the US could I buy a c19 power cable online? :) |
| [13:56:55] | PhoenixMage: | Josh_: It says it has been in the release notes |
| [13:57:08] | juski: | support was not removed. MYTHPHONE WAS REMOVED :D |
| [13:57:09] | sid3windr: | I checked newegg but they only have C19-C20 apparently? |
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| [13:59:05] | mycosys: | PhoenixMage – try Suse – reputed as THE KDE distro |
| [13:59:29] | sid3windr: | uhh |
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| [13:59:32] | sid3windr: | suse went to gnome years ago |
| [13:59:37] | sid3windr: | you know |
| [13:59:41] | sid3windr: | suse.. novell.. gnome... |
| [13:59:47] | gardengnome: | opensuse comes with kde as the default desktop AFAIK. |
| [14:00:09] | PhoenixMage: | I like the deafult security posture on a SLES install |
| [14:00:45] | PhoenixMage: | I also have a passionate hate for package management |
| [14:01:13] | pmind: | I know that from 0.22 will not be supported, but at the moment, I'd like to solve this problem. I need to know just the name of the device becose in device combo-box there are no device! |
| [14:01:47] | juski: | only works with OSS devices AFAIK, so if there's no OSS device name for your USB mic... |
| [14:02:25] | juski: | anyway the dropdown box isn't a list of devices it detects. they're just hardcoded choices. You need to enter the *actual* device name in there yourself |
| [14:02:27] | mycosys: | KDE isnt defaul – but it is what Suse is known for even now – would be a nut to run suse on gnome |
| [14:03:00] | mycosys: | KDE and YAST |
| [14:03:25] | gardengnome: | http://www.h-online.com/open/openSUSE-to-defa . . . /news/114050 |
| [14:03:28] | gardengnome: | nuff said. |
| [14:04:44] | boylec_: | Anyone know if mythtv can view input from a non-tunable capture card? i.e. Composite or S-Video input |
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| [14:06:23] | mycosys: | yes it cam – no prob |
| [14:06:25] | juski: | boylec_: yes |
| [14:06:28] | PhoenixMage: | Interesting problem with the over optimisation of mysql the other day. QT was failing in all its statements to the DB |
| [14:06:50] | mycosys: | can also use an IR blaster to control a set top (cable) box connected to it |
| [14:06:50] | gardengnome: | PhoenixMage: btw, are you trolling? just wondering. |
| [14:06:58] | PhoenixMage: | You would think reduciong the O level shouldnt really have an effect |
| [14:07:56] | mycosys: | nite all |
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| [14:08:26] | PhoenixMage: | gardengnome: no, it what way am I trolling? |
| [14:09:00] | boylec_: | does it default to assuming there is a tuner if you dont specify an external channel change command? |
| [14:09:10] | gardengnome: | PhoenixMage: dunno. saying you're not a typical gentoo ricer, then claming to hate package management, then complaining that mysql failed because you optimized too much |
| [14:09:14] | juski: | enough distro hating |
| [14:09:20] | juski: | horses for courses etc. |
| [14:09:26] | PhoenixMage: | I never offered my opinions on anything until some one asked why I was compling X |
| [14:09:27] | pmind: | juski: how can I know the name of my device! I'm using alsa driver, and in /dev/snd there are just controlC0 and pcmC0D0c |
| [14:10:19] | PhoenixMage: | I dont run gentoo, I do hate packagement though it can be a necessary evil and I didnt optimise mysql, it was the default optimisation for the package done by the developers |
| [14:10:50] | squidly: | PhoenixMage: have you ever tired to manage anything more then 2 boxes with out package managment? |
| [14:11:01] | PhoenixMage: | but as juski said, horses for courses |
| [14:11:31] | PhoenixMage: | squidly: no because I am not stupid enough to do it, as I said, a necessary evil at times |
| [14:11:34] | juski: | we all make rods for our own backs one way or the other when we pick a distro :) |
| [14:12:24] | PhoenixMage: | Hence why I said I like SLES security posture |
| [14:12:50] | gardengnome: | juski: true enough |
| [14:12:52] | tmkt: | anyone have an idea how the upgrade to v0.22 happens? just update the packages? |
| [14:12:58] | tmkt: | or scripts to run also? |
| [14:13:19] | gbee: | guess you'll know when 0.22 is released at the end of the month |
| [14:13:51] | tmkt: | yup |
| [14:14:08] | tmkt: | probably just wait for next version of mythbuntu |
| [14:14:13] | tmkt: | guessing it will be 22 based |
| [14:14:18] | iamlindoro: | yes, it shall |
| [14:14:27] | squidly: | tmkt: check the wiki |
| [14:14:34] | squidly: | it's got instructions on how to change over |
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| [14:15:02] | Josh_: | pmind, I apologize, I dont' use a microphone, I wouldnt know the first thing about identifying it with mythphone. |
| [14:16:14] | tmkt: | iamlindoro – anyway i can start those changes to mythgallery(flickr) without having 22 installed? would like to start on that asap |
| [14:16:34] | iamlindoro: | no point developing on .21, it's 100% different |
| [14:16:43] | iamlindoro: | anything you write wouldn't apply to anything current |
| [14:16:56] | tmkt: | yeah..dont want to develop on 21 |
| [14:16:57] | pmind: | Josh_: thanks |
| [14:17:05] | iamlindoro: | different toolkit versions that are incompatible with one another, and different UI libraries |
| [14:17:44] | tmkt: | was going to dev on my mythtv live box..since my dev box died last month |
| [14:17:58] | tmkt: | but guessing i'd run into conflicts running 0.21, and developing for 22 |
| [14:17:59] | Josh_: | pmind, my suggestion would be to try and get it working outside of myth, then mirror those settings. I think? alsa is the software that controls the microphone as well as outbound audio. |
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| [14:18:36] | pmind: | Josh_: ok, now im trying to use ALSA:default |
| [14:19:01] | squidly: | Josh_: correct |
| [14:19:33] | tmkt: | guess i could do vmware on my windows work laptop |
| [14:20:35] | pmind: | Josh_: outside of myth, the applications use just "ALSA:default" |
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| [14:22:51] | Josh_: | pmind, ALSA:default is just a pointer. No idea *why* it would change between inside and outside of myth.. |
| [14:23:12] | Josh_: | pmind, try doing an 'aplay -l', and figuring which device is the actual microphone |
| [14:25:52] | PhoenixMage: | nite all |
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| [14:29:02] | pmind: | Josh_: 'aplay -l' -> **** List of Playback hardware devices **** : the file is empty |
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| [14:37:31] | oobe: | when i upgrade to .22 i am assuming it will handle my old database of recordings and schedules but will i need to run mythtv-setup and setup storage groups and reconfigure my tuners |
| [14:37:34] | oobe: | also would i just be better off dumping my recordings and recording schedules to an sql backup the drop the database then restore then install .22 from scratch |
| [14:38:04] | oobe: | then restore the recordings backup |
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| [14:49:34] | rooter7: | Myth can't finish removing flagged commercials on H.264 HD transport streams. |
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| [14:52:11] | rooter7: | (0.21-fixes, Debian Testing) |
| [14:53:12] | iamlindoro: | Lossless mode? Myth doesn't do lossless transcode on H.264 |
| [14:53:20] | iamlindoro: | Patches very welcome ;) |
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| [14:54:13] | wagnerrp: | why are token ring drivers still compiled into the default linux kernel... |
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| [14:54:30] | rooter7: | Have opatched it with two H.264 patches (Alan's), but it can't complete when video anomolies. |
| [14:56:57] | sid3windr: | "compiled into the default linux kernel" |
| [14:57:02] | sid3windr: | what'es a default linux kernel? :) |
| [14:57:28] | wagnerrp: | the default options when you type 'make menuconfig' |
| [14:57:44] | sid3windr: | and they're <*> ? |
| [14:57:58] | sid3windr: | the default options for make menuconfig make VERY little sense |
| [14:58:04] | sid3windr: | token ring is just tip of the iceberg |
| [14:58:21] | sid3windr: | also, TR drivers for the cards I actually posess were never ported to 2.6 :( |
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| [15:01:09] | wagnerrp: | looks like my webcam drivers finally made it into the kernel |
| [15:01:17] | wagnerrp: | wonder if ill be able to get zoneminder working |
| [15:04:19] | wagnerrp: | 'Are you sure you really want to build the staging drivers? They taint your kernel, dont live up to the normal linux kernel quality standards, are a bit crufty around the edges, and might go off and kick your dog when you arent paying attention' |
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| [15:07:43] | dserban__: | why is it that myth used to be able to close the dvd tray in the videos menu, and now it doesn't? |
| [15:07:48] | dserban__: | more of an annoyance really. |
| [15:08:30] | dserban__: | nothing hown in the frontend log... just odd |
| [15:08:53] | dserban__: | it ejects fine, just doesn't toggle the tray closed |
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| [15:22:09] | Josh_: | bleh |
| [15:22:20] | gbee: | reminds me of another ubuntu bug where it intefers with myth trying to eject the tray and even pops up windows about it, which you then need to break out a mouse/keyboard to remove |
| [15:22:39] | Josh_: | gbee, ahh, I remember that |
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| [15:24:55] | gbee: | I think mythbuntu needs to start modifying configurations and stop relying on leaving other packages untouched, at least LinHES (aka knoppmyth) is a fully dedicated distro, mythbuntu is really just Ubuntu + mythtv and some configuration tools |
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| [15:25:17] | gardengnome: | that stuff can be controlled by us, AFAIK. |
| [15:25:28] | gardengnome: | if there are bugs like that, we need to know about them |
| [15:26:00] | gardengnome: | since we ship our own X session, we can do pretty much everything that's needed |
| [15:26:04] | gbee: | and when things like autologin breaks (repeatedly) and all sorts of dialogs popup over the myth window I start to question whether mythbuntu is really the stress free alternative |
| [15:26:46] | gardengnome: | are you running karmic? |
| [15:26:50] | gbee: | gardengnome: I'd be a happy little bunny if some of these things could be worked out |
| [15:27:12] | gardengnome: | gbee: fire away. |
| [15:27:19] | gardengnome: | ie, tell me what's wrong |
| [15:28:11] | gbee: | laga: whichever one is based on 2.6.28 |
| [15:28:44] | gardengnome: | ah, that's.. something stable |
| [15:28:56] | gardengnome: | when does autologin break? |
| [15:30:20] | gbee: | gardengnome: randomly after a reboot it goes to the login prompt instead, the autologin stuff in the mcc is broken won't let you select the user and each time you start mcc it's unset again |
| [15:30:55] | gardengnome: | are you running any third-party repos, including the mythbuntu testing repo? |
| [15:31:01] | gbee: | a few perl dependencies are missing, I've noted perl-time-format, but iirc there were others |
| [15:31:35] | gbee: | screensaver/dpms keeps starting, tried everything I can think of to disable it |
| [15:31:44] | gbee: | imho should be disabled by default |
| [15:32:44] | gbee: | and I've an open ticket about the force_lna_activation without which the Nova-T 500 is useless, but that one looks like it's outside your control |
| [15:32:56] | gardengnome: | that ticket has been open for ages :'( |
| [15:33:33] | gbee: | gardengnome: I'll have to get back to you about the mythbuntu testing repo, I can't remember if I added that back when I first setup that box |
| [15:34:15] | gbee: | I think I added at least one repo to get hold of a newer 0.21 package, the default one was a little too old |
| [15:34:46] | gardengnome: | yeah, what repos you have would be good to know |
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| [15:36:10] | gbee: | any tips on how to dump that info to a console? |
| [15:36:12] | dserban__: | heh yeah, I just switched to mythbuntu from a deb install ... ironed out the thousands of little problems ... but this dvd insert thing is driving me nuts... though there are alternatives heh, it's just one of those things |
| [15:36:28] | gardengnome: | gbee: cat /etc/apt/sources.list and sources.list.d/* |
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| [15:36:53] | gardengnome: | dserban__: pro-tip: it won't be fixed if you don't file a bug report |
| [15:37:31] | dserban__: | I just don't know what to report... reported the media keys not working etc... and a few other annoyances... but this time... wth do I report? |
| [15:38:03] | dserban__: | I press a button which I'm pretty sure sends an eject -t /dev/sr0... used to close the tray, now it doesn't? heh I have no proof :P |
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| [15:38:16] | sid3windr: | does eject -t /dev/sr0 work from the commandline then? |
| [15:38:21] | gbee: | http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/1567153 |
| [15:38:25] | dserban__: | sid3windr, yessir |
| [15:38:39] | sid3windr: | mmhm |
| [15:38:51] | gardengnome: | meh |
| [15:38:58] | ** gardengnome is too stupid for mdadm ** | |
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| [15:39:21] | dserban_: | and my video drive is set to the same thing.. I have a feeling it's HAL related...most of my ... problems lately seem to stem from "HAL" |
| [15:39:25] | sid3windr: | then I guess you're glad there's no raidhotadd/remove/... stuff anymore =) |
| [15:39:26] | dserban_: | oooh crap |
| [15:39:37] | sid3windr: | "open the pod bay doors, hal" |
| [15:39:43] | dserban_: | lol |
| [15:39:47] | sid3windr: | OPEN THE DVD DRIVE HAL |
| [15:39:51] | gbee: | I can't do that Dave |
| [15:39:51] | sid3windr: | I'm afraid I cannot do that, dserban. |
| [15:40:00] | sid3windr: | hehe |
| [15:40:02] | gbee: | ok, so I abbreviated |
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| [15:40:20] | sid3windr: | you're jeopardizing the mythical mission! |
| [15:40:33] | dserban_: | heh |
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| [15:41:01] | dserban_: | so i'm pretty much ready to toss mythbuntu... gbee, which did you say was a dedicated distro? |
| [15:41:10] | dserban_: | linhes? |
| [15:41:11] | sid3windr: | ehh |
| [15:41:14] | sid3windr: | it's still on your monitor =) |
| [15:41:20] | dserban_: | oh lol |
| [15:41:27] | dserban_: | yeah I need coffee. |
| [15:41:29] | sid3windr: | (and otherwise there's a pgup key) |
| [15:42:15] | dserban_: | though I did go full circle there |
| [15:42:31] | dserban_: | asked and answered ... within the same second... |
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| [15:43:53] | sid3windr: | same second? |
| [15:43:57] | sid3windr: | I see 9 seconds difference :p |
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| [15:53:05] | dserban_: | ohh grr... same minute :P |
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| [15:59:54] | okolsi: | just tried jamu first time.. looks promising together with Graphite etc. |
| [16:00:33] | okolsi: | first issue is that it doesn't take into account Deleted recgroup.. so it fetches lots of unwanted stuff |
| [16:01:13] | iamlindoro: | okolsi: That's a feature request, not a bug |
| [16:01:20] | iamlindoro: | (IMO) |
| [16:01:58] | okolsi: | well.. yeah.. should be 1–2 lines and I already found the place in jamu.py but never done any Python.. so.. :) |
| [16:02:33] | RDV_Linux: | okolsi: I saw your message about some issue with Jamu. I am the author what were you you expecting Jamu to do? |
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| [16:03:09] | okolsi: | well just to skip fetching any metadata/images if a recording belongs to Deleted recgroup |
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| [16:03:47] | okolsi: | if you have lots of HD space and Deleted recgroup in use.. there might be tens or hundreds of "deleted" shows and IMO jamu should not fetch anything for those |
| [16:04:51] | okolsi: | I'm talking about tv-shows in recordings.. not mythvideo stuff |
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| [16:05:10] | RDV_Linux: | okolsi: Jamu deals with videos in the MythVideo directory path. If you do not want Jamu to check for metadata do not include the paths. |
| [16:05:54] | iamlindoro: | RDV_Linux: he's talking about -MW |
| [16:06:22] | okolsi: | yes, I think that's what I'm talking about.. |
| [16:06:25] | RDV_Linux: | OK I did not see the options being used |
| [16:08:20] | okolsi: | just thought it would speed up the queries and not cause extra load to sites if already "Deleted" shows are skipped.. |
| [16:09:05] | RDV_Linux: | okolsi: For the -MW option Jamu uses entries in the "Scheduled" and "Recorded" DB tables to decide what needs to be checked. |
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| [16:11:22] | okolsi: | RDV_Linux: would it be possible to skip entries in Recorded that belong to 'Deleted' recgroup? |
| [16:12:22] | clever: | okolsi: anything is posible, its just a matter of how much code it takes |
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| [16:13:26] | RDV_Linux: | okolsi: clever is correct |
| [16:14:40] | okolsi: | well.. the same issue has been everywhere.. I think in MythWeb RSS feed, UPnP, and elsewhere.. Deleted recgroup is apparently not used that widely |
| [16:14:59] | clever: | i made my own status script which is aware of that recgroup |
| [16:15:05] | okolsi: | and I know that anything is possible.. got programming background but sadly with wrong languages (in myth circles I mean) |
| [16:15:07] | clever: | 0.28gig are deleted |
| [16:15:09] | clever: | 26.619gig can auto expire |
| [16:15:11] | clever: | ... |
| [16:16:03] | okolsi: | as I said earlier.. I found the place in jamu.py and it's 2–4 lines of code.. but apparently I have to now learn Python :-D |
| [16:16:10] | okolsi: | which is not a bad thing anyway.. |
| [16:16:16] | clever: | okolsi: can you stick that code on pastebin.ca? |
| [16:16:22] | okolsi: | sec |
| [16:17:36] | okolsi: | http://pastebin.ca/1567196 |
| [16:18:19] | okolsi: | line 4310 in jamu.py.. that would be potential place to check if a recording is in Deleted recgroup -> break; |
| [16:19:22] | clever: | is there any shred of sql in there? |
| [16:20:15] | clever: | found the full code |
| [16:20:40] | RDV_Linux: | okolsi: "Do you feel lucky?" It so happens I am testing changes to Jamu right now so I will see if I can squeeze your request in, No promises. But your timing is very good. |
| [16:20:42] | okolsi: | I don't think so.. would be best to exclude in sql of cource, but the sql might be inside python bindings or where ever.. |
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| [16:21:14] | okolsi: | RDV_Linux: sounds good... :) |
| [16:21:41] | clever: | okolsi: found it, like 4294 |
| [16:21:49] | clever: | it just blindly pulls every recording |
| [16:21:58] | okolsi: | RDV_Linux: and thanks for this tool! |
| [16:21:58] | sejmwatch: | hi when i try to open live tv on my mythbox i get in backend log following: http://pastebin.ca/1567198 it creates a file of size 0 i am using 0.22.20081110–1 |
| [16:22:01] | Hiisty: | is there any simple way to check (from the commandline) is my tc-card broken, mythbackend started to complain about my card |
| [16:22:04] | clever: | cur.execute(u'select * from recorded WHERE recgroup != "Deleted"') |
| [16:22:18] | clever: | okolsi: that minor change will fix it, no need to know any python:) |
| [16:22:27] | okolsi: | clever: okay, missed that.. it would be the best place. |
| [16:22:39] | okolsi: | clever: yes.. now I don't have to lear Python! ;) |
| [16:22:58] | RDV_Linux: | okolsi: You lucky that iamlindoro said your request make sense:) Your welcome. Try Miro Bridge at http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MiroBridge |
| [16:23:01] | Hiisty: | s/tc-card/tv-card |
| [16:23:08] | clever: | ive learned a little python, but i can already read the code and see what its doing |
| [16:23:57] | okolsi: | RDV_Linux: I'll check that out |
| [16:24:17] | skimj1: | Does anyone know, how can I make the internal DVD player start at either the DVD menu or just start the main title (skip FBI/previews)? I'm running 0.21 |
| [16:24:29] | iamlindoro: | skimj1: not currently possible |
| [16:24:47] | skimj1: | bummer. Thanks though. |
| [16:24:51] | iamlindoro: | np |
| [16:25:04] | iamlindoro: | someone had a patch for it, it will probably make .23 in 6–7 months |
| [16:25:09] | dserban_: | iamlindoro, do you know if the internal dvd player is now able to do the disney? |
| [16:25:11] | iamlindoro: | (ish) |
| [16:25:24] | iamlindoro: | dserban_: I'm sorry, I don't know, I don't use the DVD player a lot |
| [16:25:34] | dserban_: | the changelog says it's been "improved" |
| [16:25:47] | iamlindoro: | it has been, we are up to date w/ the latest libdvdnav |
| [16:25:50] | dserban_: | np I'll figure it out |
| [16:25:54] | iamlindoro: | so it may very well, I just don't know |
| [16:26:20] | skimj1: | How about automatically setting the bookmark on exit (the same as for "recordings")? |
| [16:26:24] | dserban_: | very good, I can wait until 22's out |
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| [16:49:05] | Dassu: | Is there a way to say mythwelcome to shutdown after recording ends and not to wait for jobs to finish |
| [16:49:50] | ** Dassu thinks that Recording is only time when Mythbox has to be running at odd times ** | |
| [16:50:26] | gbee: | you haven't see the hours I keep |
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| [16:50:30] | gbee: | seen |
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| [16:51:55] | Dassu: | well. |
| [16:52:04] | Dassu: | I'll just parse mythtv-status output |
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| [17:59:04] | `H1N1: | hi |
| [17:59:30] | `H1N1: | wow Apple TV dropped to $229 oO |
| [17:59:40] | `H1N1: | does it make a good front end? |
| [18:01:05] | dgilmore: | when watching HD content im seeing what looks like bad interlacing |
| [18:05:51] | rhpot1991: | `H1N1: I've heard some good things, you will need to modify it in order to have it usable though, which I think may void your warranty |
| [18:08:28] | `H1N1: | eh, warranty is the least of the problems |
| [18:08:43] | `H1N1: | yes, I immediately thought 'frontend' |
| [18:09:27] | `H1N1: | although, a diy front end would be more powerfull and cheaper. |
| [18:11:58] | `H1N1: | prolly not that small footprint form factor. |
| [18:15:39] | tmkt: | i've always thought one of those HP touchscreens would be great |
| [18:15:42] | tmkt: | just a little pricey |
| [18:16:54] | iamlindoro: | SWINE FLU! |
| [18:20:47] | tmkt: | bring it on |
| [18:21:10] | tmkt: | i defeat all flus of pig, cow, or aligator |
| [18:22:37] | gbee: | someone pointed out a nice little Atom based 15.4 720 (768) touchscreen the other day, it was let down by the fact that it wasn't ION and was overspec'd in many respects |
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| [18:24:44] | clever: | `H1N1: http://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=353 |
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| [18:29:37] | wagnerrp: | gbee: i would love to have a little all-in-one touchscreen ION unit just to put in different places that could use a computer |
| [18:29:49] | wagnerrp: | something in the kitchen, watch tv while making dinner |
| [18:30:25] | wagnerrp: | maybe have epicurious open with a recipe, or a calculator open for ingredient amounts |
| [18:31:25] | wagnerrp: | although i think i saw the one you were talking about, and it was like $900 |
| [18:31:33] | wagnerrp: | pretty steep for a POS Atom |
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| [18:35:43] | bradd_: | not exactly a mythtv question...but...after upgrading to lirc 0.8.6 is anyone else having issues with irexec? |
| [18:36:19] | bradd_: | i had to specific /dev/lircd for irw since the upgrade..but irexec doesnt accept a device flag |
| [18:37:59] | gbee: | `H1N1: to answer your earlier question, I'm sure there are better alternatives now available, something ION based – Acer Hornet can be had cheaper ($250) and incorporates ION, probably other advantages like power consumption and it's smaller |
| [18:38:18] | gbee: | err, Acer Aspire Revo, Hornet was the codename |
| [18:38:31] | gbee: | that's just one example of which I'm sure there are many |
| [18:38:32] | iamlindoro: | My experience w/ AppleTV have been extremely poor |
| [18:38:42] | iamlindoro: | and no, those of you who love them, I'm not interested in talking it out |
| [18:38:45] | wagnerrp: | or you can build your own, ION boards start ~$140 |
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| [18:40:00] | gbee: | you are going to struggle to find a of a suitable form factor which looks as nice the pre-built units IMHO, but if you are stuffing it in a cupboard or behind the tv that doesn't matter I guess |
| [18:40:16] | gbee: | s/a of/a case of/ |
| [18:41:02] | wagnerrp: | yeah, the more expensive boards come with DC power, so you could buy a stick of memory, some standoffs, and bolt it right to the underside of your TV stand |
| [18:41:35] | wagnerrp: | perhaps not a 'kid friendly' approach |
| [18:42:05] | wagnerrp: | but you could easily stuff it away somewhere such that someone not rooting around for things would never see it |
| [18:44:17] | iamlindoro: | Anduin: Hey, was wondering how things were w/ you and if you had made any progress on the Scan Bug. I spent half a day this weekend trying to fix it with minimal success (unless you count breaking MythVideo as success). Know you planned to get on it but was hoping to take some pressure off you. |
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| [18:46:42] | iamlindoro: | Am running out of bugs that I understand and feel like I'm drowning :) |
| [18:47:59] | ** juski throws iamlindoro a lifesaver ** | |
| [18:48:06] | iamlindoro: | heh, thanks |
| [18:48:08] | juski: | er.. rubber ducky I mean |
| [18:48:16] | iamlindoro: | d'oh |
| [18:48:23] | Anduin: | Haven't looked at the scan bug yet, it really should just be a matter of updating the single instance and adding any utility functions to make that possible. |
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| [18:49:04] | iamlindoro: | There are relatively few that *have* to get fixed IMO-- the scan bug, the delete bug, making sure a clean DB upgrade works, and file browsers |
| [18:49:15] | iamlindoro: | Anduin: OK, thanks. Tried and failed :) |
| [18:50:03] | josh_: | Moo. |
| [18:50:51] | josh_: | that's how I"m starting to feel. |
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| [18:54:24] | juski: | Are there any 3D mythtv themes yet? http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/digitaltv/a176768 . . . e-guide.html |
| [18:54:28] | juski: | :P |
| [18:55:05] | juski: | 3d epg? planet wtf |
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| [18:56:20] | ** iamlindoro ungroups all his widgets and moves half of them 10 pixels left, and half of the 10 pixels right ** | |
| [18:56:22] | iamlindoro: | FREEDEE! |
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| [18:57:38] | wagnerrp: | juski: heres one, but it only works with mythvideo in browse mode.... http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~llyod/tildeIma . . . FS.small.gif |
| [18:57:53] | juski: | oo & Virgin Media are apparently looking at giving us IPTV. Will it be open though? |
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| [18:58:27] | juski: | wagnerrp: 404 |
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| [18:58:43] | wagnerrp: | screw it... im not typing that out again |
| [18:58:48] | juski: | lol |
| [18:59:27] | pmhahn: | Anybody knows a little more details about the SQL tables of mythconverg? |
| [18:59:37] | wagnerrp: | supposed to be a joke referencing FSN in jurassic park |
| [19:00:23] | jduggan: | juski: will it fsck... but im sure it'll stop ppl with their dreambox/starview/kcrypt setups :P |
| [19:00:25] | wagnerrp: | pmhahn: theres a lot of information about them on the wiki |
| [19:01:30] | pmhahn: | wagnerrp: yes, already found the wiki, but I' missing some details |
| [19:01:44] | wagnerrp: | what in particular |
| [19:03:05] | messerting: | yo – I like PBP in trunk :) |
| [19:03:35] | pmhahn: | channel.sourceid is referencing what? capturecard.capturecardid OR videosource.sourceid OR cardinput.cardinputid? |
| [19:03:50] | juski: | pmhahn: manual hacking of the db is not encouraged here |
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| [19:04:13] | juski: | not saying you are doing that, just pointing it out |
| [19:04:14] | wagnerrp: | sourceid would be referencing.... sourceid |
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| [19:04:38] | ** iamlindoro gives messerting a look of sincere thanks for being the one and only person to say something he liked without immediately insulting some other part or saying how it should all work ** | |
| [19:05:03] | iamlindoro: | Users expressing that they like something, and just that, are few and far between... and welcome |
| [19:05:15] | juski: | hey pardon me for saying what I think |
| [19:05:22] | juski: | you want sucking up, ask somebody else |
| [19:05:38] | jduggan: | pbp? |
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| [19:06:00] | wagnerrp: | you understand how tuners in mythtv are set up, right? |
| [19:06:05] | juski: | picture by picture :) |
| [19:06:06] | iamlindoro: | juski: Hmm? Definitely didn't mean you :) |
| [19:06:18] | wagnerrp: | you have a source, that contains your channels and listings data for one 'source' |
| [19:06:30] | juski: | iamlindoro: wasn't sure, but either way ;-) |
| [19:06:31] | pmhahn: | juski: Still trying to understand the working, because currently I've got a problem and can't make any senso of it. |
| [19:06:31] | wagnerrp: | and that source then gets bound to one or more inputs on one or more tuner cards |
| [19:06:41] | iamlindoro: | juski: Anyone who's complained and then *fixed* it is totally exempted for the above :) |
| [19:06:48] | wagnerrp: | channels never have anything to do with capturecards or cardinputs |
| [19:06:50] | iamlindoro: | juski: Only applied to those who bitch and do nothing |
| [19:06:59] | juski: | still.. |
| [19:07:03] | wagnerrp: | only with the source |
| [19:07:17] | J-e-f-f-A: | Just came back from Micro Center — Picked up a 8400GS for $24.99 – $19.99 after $5 MIR... cheap VDPAU solution. ;-) 256MB PCIe Low-profile... good deal I think... http://microcenter.com/single_product_results . . . t_id=0305869 |
| [19:07:49] | juski: | wuh? they got that cheap? |
| [19:08:09] | juski: | ah, then I remember I need a PCIe riser for my crappy case :( |
| [19:08:17] | juski: | silverstone junk |
| [19:08:19] | J-e-f-f-A: | juski: It would seem so... ;-) They had a 9600 for $49 after rebate... |
| [19:08:22] | wagnerrp: | juski: i bought my 512MB fanless back in november for $30 (after MIR) |
| [19:09:03] | juski: | might have to go with a standard box & hide it out of the way |
| [19:09:04] | pmhahn: | wagnerrp: I read somewhere that I would have to get the "source" (=EPG provider?) multiple times under some constellations... |
| [19:09:05] | iamlindoro: | Just ripped my folks' mythbox (2 years old) open this AM to rebuild it and found a 8400 GS inside... was *very* surprised I built it with something that decent 24 months ago |
| [19:09:09] | juski: | it's not like we ever use the optical drive |
| [19:09:11] | iamlindoro: | well, maybe a bit less than 24 |
| [19:09:43] | Weeman: | How i can solve, why suspend or hibernate won't work. |
| [19:09:58] | pmhahn: | wagnerrp: I have an "old" FF-DVB-C card also with analog, and a second DVB-C Budget card. |
| [19:10:11] | Weeman: | When i choose hibernate or suspend, x goes down and only cursor blinks upper left corner. |
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| [19:11:11] | pmhahn: | wagnerrp: The old FF doesn't work with QAM256, but the Budget does. Some "channels" I only get via analog, some only work with the Budget, and some I get on all 3: Analog, FF and Budget |
| [19:11:13] | juski: | Weeman: try the IRC channel for the distro you use :) |
| [19:12:04] | juski: | jduggan: ah but if they do enough checking at the headend to see who's entitled to use what.. then it *might* just be opened up.. which would be almighty cool |
| [19:12:15] | juski: | jduggan: just a slim teensy weensy chance |
| [19:12:17] | J-e-f-f-A: | re: 8400GS – Gee, the web site says "low profile bracket not included, but can be purchased separately" – but they're included in the box. ;-) |
| [19:12:19] | pmhahn: | wagnerrp: I had a Budget-only setup working, but after adding the FF+Analog stuff, Analog doesn't work |
| [19:12:35] | jduggan: | juski: lets hope :) |
| [19:13:24] | juski: | jduggan: might even be tempted to crank up a paytv pack again, who knows :) |
| [19:13:28] | pmhahn: | wagnerrp: looking at the CardInput table I suddenly have 4 entries there, which I don't understand. So I'm trying to understand the SQL tables do ask intelligent questions... |
| [19:13:51] | juski: | could also let them do a lot more channels a la carte. rather than a minimum £25 for a load of frickin dross |
| [19:14:44] | jduggan: | juski: hehe, yea i dropped down to the basic 'M' package now... it actually works out cheaper to keep tv than to get rid of it |
| [19:15:40] | juski: | we only really used cartoon network & discovery. lol |
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| [19:16:19] | ** juski wonders how many powerpuff girls & dexter's lab DVDs you can buy with £25 ** | |
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| [19:18:08] | mchou: | J-e-f-f-A: I thought some people had issues with VDPAU w/256MB |
| [19:18:27] | gardengnome: | why would you wanna do that? |
| [19:18:42] | juski: | cos they were the only things on cable worth watching :P |
| [19:18:56] | ** Gav8in can't work today, too excited about winter classic. ** | |
| [19:19:03] | Gav8in: | i just found out today it's in boston |
| [19:19:20] | juski: | mythbusters was ok for a while. Not enough Teri though |
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| [19:20:20] | J-e-f-f-A: | mchou: The 2x deinterlacers either don't work, or don't work well IIRC, but otherwise it works. |
| [19:20:26] | josh_: | juski, don't you mean Grant? |
| [19:20:29] | josh_: | :p |
| [19:20:37] | Gav8in: | i used 256mb vdpau, and yeah, everythign but the 2x deint |
| [19:21:04] | juski: | I need to quit smoking. And IRC |
| [19:21:18] | juski: | *again* |
| [19:21:24] | J-e-f-f-A: | Gav8in: Maybe that's why it took me 1hr to get about 1/10th a mile in Boston today... GGGRRRRHHHH!!! |
| [19:21:33] | Gav8in: | jeff, that's on 1 January |
| [19:21:54] | Gav8in: | the winter classic is on 1 Jan, but yeah, there was a huge party at the garden this aft for season ticket holders to buy classic tix |
| [19:22:10] | J-e-f-f-A: | Gav8in: Ok, so maybe it was just contruction, and stupid people blocking intersections... unbelievable... |
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| [19:22:18] | Gav8in: | but averaging 0.1mph downtown is sadly common |
| [19:22:27] | Gav8in: | the streets were layed out by cows |
| [19:22:55] | Gav8in: | boston is such an unfortunate city that way. too new a city to have the circular walled city design with spoke & ring roads |
| [19:22:57] | Gav8in: | too old to have a grid |
| [19:23:26] | gardengnome: | juski: i had three cigarettes this year. damn tasty. :) |
| [19:23:28] | juski: | so who's up for being interviewed by mythtvcast about 0.22 then? |
| [19:23:44] | gardengnome: | juski: i've got this plush kitty. |
| [19:23:47] | Gav8in: | i can't smoke anymore; i tried a cigar last summer and i didn't enjoy it |
| [19:23:48] | Gav8in: | i was sad |
| [19:23:57] | kormoc: | ju ski: who cares? |
| [19:24:10] | gardengnome: | yeah, after half of the cigarette, it did taste awful ;) |
| [19:24:15] | juski: | kormoc: just thinking whoever it was could turn up packing heat |
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| [19:26:39] | _ben: | heh, not being able to browse channels is starting to get at me now |
| [19:26:47] | jduggan: | ooh, juski, you might know the answer to this.. i have two NTL/virgin boxes in my house, one upstairs, one downstairs, both boxes have two f-type plugs on them, should the stb run from any socket? |
| [19:27:02] | jduggan: | where boxes = the plate on teh wall |
| [19:30:02] | meshe: | OT question: anyone know if the EEE netbooks with draft N have N driver support in linux? |
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| [19:33:59] | sphery: | MarcT: Any chance you could tell your client not to mess with color codes when you mention someone's nick? For those of us who use a black background, black text is hard to read. :) Thanks. |
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| [19:36:16] | gardengnome: | sphery: ah, where are the good old days where you'd just kick people with broken clients? |
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| [19:45:32] | MarcT: | Weird, it hasent done that before |
| [19:46:26] | sphery: | MarcT: every time you reply to someone with nick at the beggining of the line, I get: 09.15 14:48:37 -!- Irssi: [!] MarcT used color codes: fore: back: on #mythtv |
| [19:47:00] | MarcT: | ok.. I copy the persons name from the chat window, I wont do that anymore |
| [19:47:00] | sphery: | and then a dark yellow highlight for the user's nick and black on black for all other text |
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| [19:47:46] | MarcT: | which is weird cause I see it as all black. |
| [19:47:47] | sphery: | there's probably some kind of option in your client that allows you to turn off all formatting for some channels. |
| [19:47:58] | MarcT: | I'm using Trillian. |
| [19:47:59] | MarcT: | lol |
| [19:48:19] | juski: | jduggan: either or should be ok |
| [19:48:25] | sphery: | does it do nick auto-complete? Like, I can type Ma<Tab> and it will put MarcT |
| [19:48:34] | sphery: | might be easier than copy/paste |
| [19:48:43] | MarcT: | Actually it does. |
| [19:48:56] | MarcT: | I was unaware of that |
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| [19:49:13] | _ben: | heh :) |
| [19:49:25] | sphery: | anyway, I appreciate your fixing it, since I figured you didn't see it the way I did, and copy/pasting your comments into vim was way too hard. :) |
| [19:49:59] | MarcT: | lol |
| [19:51:32] | wagnerrp: | MarkT: Windows? or have you managed to get it running properly under WINE? |
| [19:53:10] | wagnerrp: | amusing that program started as an IRC client, and now IRC is someone of the bastard child medium |
| [19:53:19] | wagnerrp: | s/someone/somewhat/ |
| [19:53:49] | MarcT: | Winblows 7 |
| [19:54:34] | MarcT: | and I'm using Trillian Astra |
| [19:55:13] | wagnerrp: | Astra is supposed to work a lot better under WINE than previous versions |
| [19:55:32] | wagnerrp: | i had it partially functional in early '06, but i havent tried since then |
| [19:55:43] | MarcT: | Its my gaming rig, only windows machine oher than my work computer and the wifes system |
| [19:55:46] | gardengnome: | yeah, we don't have enough irc clients for *nix |
| [19:55:51] | wagnerrp: | preferences werent working properly |
| [19:56:24] | wagnerrp: | gardengnome: i had no intention of using it for IRC... just for IM in general |
| [19:56:59] | MarcT: | only reason I was looking at the windows build earlier this week was because I am moving in 2 weeks and the backend is going to be at work until I get cable setup at the house. |
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| [20:06:40] | mzb: | juski, just tried ffmpeg as you suggested ... didn't work ... back to demux/remux technique |
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| [20:40:40] | sphery: | Any trunk users out there who could run a quick log grep for me? (Adjust path to backend log as required, please.) grep Strange /var/log/mythbackend.log | wc -l |
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| [20:41:15] | wagnerrp: | anything in particular i should be '-v'ing? |
| [20:41:34] | sphery: | nope, I want all Strange-ness in the logs :) |
| [20:41:59] | wagnerrp: | 'No error type from QSqlError? Strange...' |
| [20:42:03] | wagnerrp: | and one of those has a date to it |
| [20:42:07] | sphery: | yeah, how many times... |
| [20:42:12] | sphery: | the wc -l... |
| [20:42:13] | wagnerrp: | 19 |
| [20:42:31] | wagnerrp: | out of 54MB |
| [20:42:34] | sphery: | and some of those are in post-socket-fixes versions of the log? |
| [20:42:50] | wagnerrp: | what revision would that be? |
| [20:43:24] | sphery: | r21726 from 2009-09–07 22:33:13 +0000 or better |
| [20:43:36] | wagnerrp: | running 21604 here |
| [20:43:42] | sphery: | oh, hmmm. |
| [20:47:04] | _ben: | nothing here sphery |
| [20:47:18] | sphery: | _ben: thx |
| [20:48:57] | wagnerrp: | oh aufs why do you hate me so... |
| [20:49:40] | gardengnome: | wagnerrp: aufs2 is quite nice? |
| [20:49:50] | wagnerrp: | youre asking me? |
| [20:49:56] | wagnerrp: | how would i know, i cant get it to work |
| [20:49:59] | gardengnome: | no, disregard the question mark |
| [20:50:17] | wagnerrp: | cant get the kernel and the module to mesh |
| [20:50:19] | gardengnome: | it's always worked well for me. unless somebody fscked it up in the ubuntu kernel.. |
| [20:50:27] | gardengnome: | wagnerrp: are you running aufs2 from git? |
| [20:50:33] | wagnerrp: | the module needs some additional patches in the kernel |
| [20:50:39] | wagnerrp: | and apparently one of them didnt work properly |
| [20:50:53] | gardengnome: | heh |
| [20:51:19] | gardengnome: | if you can't get it to work, try asking on their ML. junjiro is usually quick to answer |
| [20:51:31] | ** wagnerrp is not using ubuntu ** | |
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| [20:53:22] | gardengnome: | wagnerrp: "their" means the AUFS list |
| [20:53:40] | wagnerrp: | ah, well im actually on there currently |
| [20:54:16] | gardengnome: | ah |
| [20:58:00] | josh_: | haha |
| [20:58:09] | wagnerrp: | odd... the function shows up in the linux kernel headers |
| [20:58:25] | josh_: | SELECT * frrom USERS where clue > 0; |
| [20:58:28] | josh_: | "No results found" |
| [20:58:35] | sid3windr: | frrrrrrrrrrrrrrom |
| [20:58:55] | josh_: | sid3windr, shh |
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| [21:01:42] | wagnerrp: | talking about being unable to read blatent error messages? |
| [21:03:19] | _ben: | so, does the person(s) who creates ubuntu myth packages reside amongst us? |
| [21:03:43] | gardengnome: | _ben: maybe |
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| [21:11:21] | kormoc: | _ben: typically they sit in the ubuntu myth channel at the very least |
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| [21:14:13] | stevieman: | quick question, how do I do a search for a file in mythbuntu? The gui doesn't have a search or find option |
| [21:15:20] | wagnerrp: | not yet |
| [21:15:45] | wagnerrp: | i assume youre talking about mythvideo? |
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| [21:19:00] | wagnerrp: | i guess hes not talking about anything |
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| [21:19:10] | EvilDin: | hi, i imported iptv streams to mythtv channel list, problem is that streams are h264 video, and when i play video with mythtv, audio is much to fast or actually video is to slow shown, i am using Nvidia VDPAU Acceleration in settings, and same stream VLC plays very well, i am using 0.21-fixed version of mythtv |
| [21:19:18] | _ben: | bah, almost fixed everything but the programme guide is still awkward to use |
| [21:19:48] | wagnerrp: | 0.21 does not support VDPAU |
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| [21:20:35] | wagnerrp: | and theres the man you need to ask |
| [21:21:51] | MarcT: | jya, something recently broke 6975, probably not a hot item but just an informative notification |
| [21:22:32] | MarcT: | something between 21843 and 21873, trying to narrow it down now. |
| [21:22:39] | jya: | MarcT: I'll have a look.. |
| [21:23:21] | jya: | I was working on it anyway, there are 2 things broken currently. 5 channels AAC don't play properly (segfault), mono soundtrack when in stereo is distorted |
| [21:23:47] | MarcT: | ok, I mean it won't even apply on 21873 |
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| [21:24:22] | MarcT: | trying to find the specific commit that broke it |
| [21:25:37] | jya: | Let me look at it ... hopefully won't take long |
| [21:26:08] | MarcT: | looks like 21851 is the culpret |
| [21:26:27] | EvilDin: | i am sorry |
| [21:26:36] | EvilDin: | i use trunk version of mythtv |
| [21:26:46] | EvilDin: | and there is support for VDPAU |
| [21:27:06] | EvilDin: | just it seem that UDP streams gives mplayer problems |
| [21:27:28] | wagnerrp: | i thought you said you were using mythtv |
| [21:27:54] | EvilDin: | i am using mythtv trunk version |
| [21:28:02] | wagnerrp: | you said mplayer |
| [21:28:06] | MarcT: | then nwhy are you talking about mplayer? |
| [21:29:47] | kormoc: | gb ee: found the leak, it was my own debug code that caused it, sorry for the noise |
| [21:30:15] | wagnerrp: | kormoc: still interested in those x86 compile logs? |
| [21:30:17] | EvilDin: | doesn't mythtv uses mplayer ? |
| [21:30:23] | kormoc: | wagnerrp: aye |
| [21:30:24] | wagnerrp: | EvilDin: no |
| [21:30:54] | _ben: | BTW, with themes, – in particular project greyhem OSD – if you go to live TV, the program info box is empty? |
| [21:31:02] | _ben: | change theme – it's fine |
| [21:31:21] | EvilDin: | oh, ok, how can i set that tv programs udp streams, will use VLC, which seem to work with streams very well |
| [21:31:24] | MarcT: | EvilDin mplayer could be used if you set it up as your fallback player for mythvideo. |
| [21:31:33] | wagnerrp: | you cannot |
| [21:31:40] | kormoc: | EvilDin: by not using mythtv |
| [21:31:42] | wagnerrp: | recordings and livetv can only use the built in mythtv player |
| [21:31:46] | MarcT: | but you are talking about the actual myth app =p |
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| [21:32:29] | EvilDin: | ok, then probably there must be some setting to set, that udp h264 video streams would work with mythtv player ? |
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| [21:36:12] | MarcT: | jya, it was changeset 21849 |
| [21:36:36] | MarcT: | its because of the updated to the OSD menu |
| [21:36:51] | wagnerrp: | kormoc: a functional (manual) configure is at http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/1567534 |
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| [21:37:21] | wagnerrp: | the configure performed by gentoo is at http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/1567535 |
| [21:38:46] | kormoc: | snaz |
| [21:39:08] | wagnerrp: | the last couple hundred lines of the build is at http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/1567540 |
| [21:39:15] | wagnerrp: | i had to truncate it, 150K limit |
| [21:39:40] | jya: | MarcT: yes, I saw that... I'm more concerned with some other changes in libmythfreesurround, have to check if it patches things properly |
| [21:42:01] | kormoc: | that first one worked? |
| [21:42:02] | ** kormoc blinks ** | |
| [21:42:40] | wagnerrp: | didnt actually check it this instance |
| [21:42:49] | wagnerrp: | but it has worked in the past, when the ebuild failed with that error |
| [21:43:09] | kormoc: | kk |
| [21:43:14] | kormoc: | and that was with my ebuild? |
| [21:43:22] | jduggan: | asus or gigabyte? for a n330 atom board both are around the same price/spec its down to the choice of brand :d |
| [21:43:29] | wagnerrp: | that log was your ebuild |
| [21:43:41] | wagnerrp: | but the same error occurs in the ebuild in portage as well |
| [21:43:50] | MarcT: | is there a way I can sign up to watch a ticket without having to post a reply to it? |
| [21:46:47] | kormoc: | Marct add yourself to the cc list |
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| [21:54:01] | MarcT: | kormoc I dont seem to have that ability |
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| [21:56:53] | sphery: | kormoc: BTW, don't waste any time on #7057, yet. I'm almost positive it's invalid, but I was waiting for the reporter to confirm it works for him before closing it. |
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| [22:01:59] | kormoc: | wagnerrp: I think I might have got it... testing on my end real quick... |
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| [22:04:46] | styelz: | erg, my friggen encoders crap out every firggen day these days |
| [22:06:18] | kormoc: | wagnerrp: seems good, if you wanted to svn up and try again |
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| [22:07:32] | styelz: | ooh theres an update |
| [22:08:36] | wagnerrp: | kormoc: thanks, ill fire up the machine and give it a shot when i get home |
| [22:09:30] | EvilDin: | so is it possible to play h264 udp video streams in mythtv ? |
| [22:10:01] | wagnerrp: | you claimed you already are playing udp video streams in mythtv |
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| [22:10:28] | wagnerrp: | you said they did play, they just played at the wrong speed |
| [22:10:44] | wagnerrp: | there some setting 'use audio as timebase', or something like that, somewhere |
| [22:10:47] | wagnerrp: | try flipping it |
| [22:11:13] | wagnerrp: | what version nvidia drivers are you running? the 185 family has some issues, and the 190 family is still beta and buggy |
| [22:11:38] | _ben: | Just trying to get my head around the new channel scanner – is there any guide to this? |
| [22:11:44] | _ben: | can't seem to find anything in the wiki |
| [22:11:52] | wagnerrp: | theres some stuff about the composite extention, and 'useevents' in your xorg.conf, that can cause problems with vdpau |
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| [22:14:52] | wagnerrp: | EvilDin: other things to check... is this a playback issue or a recording issue? |
| [22:14:57] | wagnerrp: | record something off that channel |
| [22:15:07] | wagnerrp: | play back the file externally in VLC, does it play fine? |
| [22:15:27] | EvilDin: | stream directly opened in VLC works fine |
| [22:15:35] | wagnerrp: | no, not the stream, the recording |
| [22:15:39] | EvilDin: | recording i didn't try |
| [22:15:46] | kormoc: | ooh |
| [22:15:53] | kormoc: | it's likely wrong due to a missing seek table |
| [22:16:54] | wagnerrp: | that wouldnt affect playback would it? i thought that was just for ff/rw |
| [22:17:11] | wagnerrp: | and then, only anything over 3x |
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| [22:17:28] | wagnerrp: | ...headed home |
| [22:17:31] | kormoc: | huh, I know it's fixed issues with playback with mythvideo h264 files in the past |
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| [22:28:12] | squidly: | ok this is wired |
| [22:28:27] | squidly: | I put a new video in the video dir storage group |
| [22:28:36] | squidly: | but nothing when I do scan for changes |
| [22:31:45] | squidly: | oh.. I see I can not handel spaces in the file names |
| [22:32:04] | _ben: | mmm, is it usual to see conflicts when channel scanning? |
| [22:32:46] | sphery: | squidly: trunk? |
| [22:32:58] | sphery: | squidly: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythVideo_.22_Transition_Guide |
| [22:33:10] | sphery: | (it has nothing to do with spaces, and everything to do with how you're using MythVideo) |
| [22:34:33] | squidly: | sphery: It was a new video |
| [22:34:41] | squidly: | I'm using the storage groups setup |
| [22:34:52] | squidly: | I wiped out the old method |
| [22:35:37] | squidly: | (ie I was doing way to much with nfs for my poor server) |
| [22:37:55] | sphery: | squidly: read the part about Setting Up Video/Image Storage Groups on that page |
| [22:38:06] | sphery: | there's a /very/ important part there you didn't notice |
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| [22:41:04] | jya: | MarcT: I've updated the new_audio patch to build against 21874 |
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| [22:42:20] | squidly: | sphery: the ones about the cover art, fanart, screenshots, trailers |
| [22:43:03] | sphery: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythVideo_.22_Tran . . . orage_Groups |
| [22:43:03] | sphery: | read carefully |
| [22:43:04] | sphery: | don't stop after bullet 3 |
| [22:43:07] | sphery: | don't stop after the first 2 sentences of bullet 4 |
| [22:43:31] | MarcT: | Thanks jya |
| [22:43:35] | sphery: | don't stop after the first half of the 3rd sentence of bullet 4 |
| [22:43:53] | sphery: | that last part is very important |
| [22:44:04] | squidly: | sphery: yea I konw |
| [22:44:11] | squidly: | the you have to wait for it to show up |
| [22:44:33] | squidly: | I was looking at the logs |
| [22:44:51] | squidly: | as soon as I renamed the fiel to be appleseed.ex.machina.avi it works and was scanned |
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| [22:53:50] | sphery: | squidly: but with spaces it didn't? |
| [22:54:01] | mycosys: | hey guys – jus check – any database schema or protocol changes since 20847? |
| [22:54:15] | gardengnome: | mycosys: in trunk or in fixeS? |
| [22:54:20] | mycosys: | trunk |
| [22:54:51] | sphery: | mycosys: that's what DB backups are for |
| [22:55:32] | sphery: | and you really need to upgrade all parts of the system to the same version, anyway, so if this is to try to save your having to upgrade them all, that approach isn't supported |
| [22:55:39] | mycosys: | dont want to rebuild windows frontend, so before i build i need to know – next win build will be 0.22 release rofl. if it hasnt changed i build for buntu an suse |
| [22:56:12] | _ben: | mmm, i'm a bit confused about channel scanning – i get messages about non-conflicts and conflicts – how are you meant to handle these? |
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| [23:21:53] | mycosys: | so.... any database schema or protocol changes since 20847? |
| [23:22:00] | mycosys: | trunk |
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| [23:23:23] | mycosys: | !changelog |
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| [23:27:10] | mycosys: | would have thought it was a reasonably simple question? |
| [23:29:57] | mycosys: | another random sort of Q – will myth build on a G3? |
| [23:37:59] | kormoc: | my cosys: svn.mythtv.org, view the changelogs there... |
| [23:38:30] | kormoc: | and what sort of source are you using that a g3 would be enough for? |
| [23:39:10] | mycosys: | should cut it for 575i, just as it does for DVD |
| [23:39:50] | kormoc: | I doubt it'd handle the OSD |
| [23:41:11] | mycosys: | that might be a challenge for the ol radeon |
| [23:41:29] | kormoc: | it'll be entirely software rendered with any ATI card |
| [23:41:36] | mycosys: | would mainly be for fun – just as building the thing with suse was |
| [23:41:49] | kormoc: | and given the most they shipped was 333 mhz iirc... |
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| [23:51:50] | mycosys: | funny – mine is 400 |
| [23:52:13] | mycosys: | about the speed of an 8–900Mhz P3 |
| [23:52:37] | mycosys: | they dropped the mpg decoder card on them as they were capable on their own |
| [23:54:28] | mycosys: | tho i do have an ol PCI rage with the decoder daughterboard lol |
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