Tuesday, September 1st, 2009, 00:00 UTC | ||
[00:00:50] | sphery: | elmojo: audio capture only meaning? For supported TV tuner cards, see linuxtv.org/wiki |
[00:01:01] | sphery: | oops... sorry |
[00:01:06] | sphery: | that was for el_critter |
[00:01:13] | sphery: | el_critter: ^^^ |
[00:01:39] | el_critter: | sphery: I just need to capture audio from TV, video is going to be discarted |
[00:01:52] | sphery: | well, MythTV won't work for that |
[00:01:58] | kormoc: | el_critter: so erm... why? |
[00:02:17] | sphery: | but you can find all the info on capture cards that are supported in GNU/Linux at linuxtv.org/wiki |
[00:02:36] | sphery: | well, because MythTV is a DVR for recording TV, including both video and audio |
[00:02:49] | Defense|Twin (Defense|Twin!n=jepz@d137135.adsl.hansenet.de) has quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
[00:02:53] | sphery: | and MythTV does not yet support things like DVB Radio (at least not well) |
[00:03:06] | paperclip: | you can simply demux later, no? |
[00:03:29] | sphery: | yes, something that's not mythtv can discard the video, but MythTV won't do that |
[00:03:33] | el_critter: | I know, I'm not going to use MythTV, I just want your recommendation for a nice tv capture card that works out of the box for linux |
[00:03:35] | elmojo__ (elmojo__!n=tralph@cpe-024-163-063-165.nc.res.rr.com) has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) | |
[00:03:49] | paperclip: | heh |
[00:03:52] | sphery: | linuxtv.org/wiki is the best resource |
[00:03:58] | paperclip: | I'd like an fm tuner! |
[00:04:19] | sphery: | and Myth doesn't support FM radio, either (though many capture cards do) |
[00:04:36] | paperclip: | I was only kidding, sorta |
[00:04:53] | paperclip: | I would like one.. but I ordered an HDhomerun this morning |
[00:04:56] | el_critter: | thanks |
[00:04:58] | sphery: | though there used to be some 3rd-party FM radio things (like MythFM), they have bitrotted |
[00:05:27] | sphery: | and were really hacks in the first place |
[00:05:28] | paperclip: | shame.. local community radio is always doing live feeds from festivals and concerts |
[00:05:45] | sphery: | (meaning not really integrated/stomped all over tuner usage/didn't use Internal player/...) |
[00:06:03] | paperclip: | i'm pretty sure cron and cat should work for what I need.. |
[00:06:30] | sphery: | yeah--just make sure you don't steal tuners from tv recording |
[00:06:42] | paperclip: | I don't have any tuners |
[00:06:58] | paperclip: | hoping the hdhomerun gets here soon tho |
[00:09:43] | paperclip: | anyone know where, in the states, I can order an inexpensive usb IR receiver? |
[00:10:32] | drenyx: | Dagmar, guess what? |
[00:11:11] | drenyx: | the qt symlink worked, I had just changed some other config option |
[00:11:19] | drenyx: | things seem to be working now |
[00:11:42] | elmojo (elmojo!n=tralph@174.99.106.48) has quit (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) | |
[00:11:44] | dashcloud: | I'm trying to pick out an external 1 TB drive- any brands to avoid or to go for? |
[00:11:45] | GuySoft: | is there a bot in the room with a tell command? |
[00:14:22] | drenyx: | dashcloud: if I had my pick, I'd get something that had a external raid setup for you, unless you don't care about the data after a drive fails... |
[00:14:26] | kormoc: | GuySoft: to tell what? |
[00:14:27] | drenyx: | but I'm extra paranoid |
[00:14:47] | kormoc: | dashcloud: I like WD's stuff |
[00:15:15] | dashcloud: | sounds good |
[00:16:42] | drenyx: | ditto, I run only WD |
[00:17:06] | dashcloud: | is multirec supported on all digital tuners? (and for the ones it supports, what's the max # of virtual tuners that can be added?) |
[00:17:55] | elmojo (elmojo!n=tralph@cpe-174-099-106-048.nc.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[00:18:17] | kormoc: | no, only on tuners that support it, and depends on the multiplex, if the multiplex has 6 streams, 6 tuners, if it has 4, 4 tuners, etc |
[00:18:26] | kormoc: | more tuners just won't do anything |
[00:20:00] | MartinCleaver (MartinCleaver!n=martincl@206-248-163-209.dsl.teksavvy.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[00:20:27] | drenyx: | so...how do I set up like, movie directories and stuff for myth to play? |
[00:21:17] | elmojo_ (elmojo_!n=tralph@cpe-024-163-063-165.nc.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[00:21:19] | Gav8in (Gav8in!n=gavin@ytz.ca) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[00:21:39] | Gav8in: | has there been a regression wrt the speed of video playback today? |
[00:22:46] | sphery: | dashcloud: and the UI only allows you to set up 5 virtual tuners max because testing revealed that number should generally work withouth causing more problems than it solves |
[00:23:02] | sphery: | drenyx: MythVideo |
[00:23:11] | dashcloud: | sphery: thanks! |
[00:24:04] | jpabq (jpabq!n=jpabq@71-38-209-160.albq.qwest.net) has quit () | |
[00:24:59] | drenyx: | sphery: is that a command? or that's the part that makes it work ? |
[00:25:53] | sphery: | that's the plugin that can do that |
[00:26:10] | sphery: | needs installed, then it's accessed/configured through mythfrontend |
[00:27:17] | drenyx: | is there an easy way to configure it? |
[00:27:33] | _styelz (_styelz!n=yoohoo@m0o0.mooo.com) has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) | |
[00:27:37] | kormoc: | the setting screens aren't easy? |
[00:28:01] | drenyx: | I didn't see it for mythvideo, but I might've been looking in the wrong spot |
[00:28:41] | sphery: | Utilities/Setup|Setup|Media Settings ... something about video-ish... |
[00:28:51] | sphery: | I think |
[00:29:31] | drenyx: | now I found I think... |
[00:31:56] | sphery: | Yeah, I'm sure having such clear instructions--a veritable map--from me helped immensely |
[00:36:25] | elmojo (elmojo!n=tralph@cpe-174-099-106-048.nc.res.rr.com) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
[00:38:36] | drenyx: | I did not dig deep enough the first time before asking |
[00:38:57] | drenyx: | well, I have a working mythtv install (no tuner card) for playing movies at the moment from my library |
[00:39:09] | drenyx: | I think I'm about as stopping point as it gets |
[00:39:19] | drenyx: | (for sleeping before more tweaking) |
[00:39:58] | hadees (hadees!n=hadees@72-48-75-59.dyn.grandenetworks.net) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
[00:42:38] | Gav8in: | i'm hopin' the latest svn fixes my playback regression |
[00:42:53] | drenyx: | playback regression ? |
[00:45:07] | Gav8in: | playback of video has become dead slow after an svn up this morning |
[00:46:34] | sphery: | Gav8in: Are you getting tons of "MythSocket(<some value>:-1): writeStringList: Error, called with unconnected socket." errors in your log, now? |
[00:48:19] | Gav8in: | sphery, no. is that at the default loglevel? |
[00:49:53] | sphery: | yeah |
[00:50:02] | sphery: | would be in either important or general |
[00:50:06] | sphery: | don't remember which |
[00:52:11] | Gav8in: | hrm, well i'm not seeing it |
[00:52:15] | jya: | anyone here using trunk with 5.1 analog audio ? |
[00:52:25] | Gav8in: | i am however getting horrible stuttering video playback, esp of 720p content |
[00:52:49] | styelz (styelz!n=yoohoo@m0o0.mooo.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[00:53:42] | sphery: | Gav8in: I don't remember any changes to playback code today... There were changes to socket handling. |
[00:53:48] | sphery: | Gav8in: are the files local? |
[00:53:55] | Gav8in: | yes, on an xfs filesystem |
[00:54:12] | Gav8in: | so my alternate hypothesis is that it got too full, had only 7gb free when i found the problem |
[00:55:10] | sphery: | that's quite possible |
[00:55:12] | Gav8in: | i'm doing a recompile and i'll retest, we'll see. let me know what to enable to debug this socket problem if itisn't in the default logs |
[00:55:16] | sphery: | xfs doesn't like full filesystems |
[00:55:28] | sphery: | it's default verbosity |
[00:55:30] | Gav8in: | i've freed about 40 gigs since then, it's only a 180gb partition so that's relatively empty |
[00:55:39] | sphery: | and it should be /very/ obvious in the logs if you're getting it |
[00:55:42] | Gav8in: | i'll ask myth to keep i guess 20gb free from now on |
[00:55:55] | kormoc (kormoc!n=kormoc@unaffiliated/kormoc) has quit ("http://www.seagl.org") | |
[00:55:59] | Gav8in: | the only log pain was something about not finding channels in multiplexes |
[00:56:15] | sphery: | might want to do a rescan, too, just in case, then |
[00:56:31] | Gav8in: | rescan for channels, you mean? sure. |
[00:56:56] | Gav8in: | i've been doing a lot of antenna fiddling, and i switched my reception of a local channel that's simulcast from the low-vhf version to the uhf version of the multicast |
[00:57:02] | sphery: | yeah, rescan channels |
[00:57:14] | Gav8in: | i will; thanks. |
[00:57:25] | Gav8in: | btw: my WAF and TAF (toddler acceptance factor) are very high |
[00:57:42] | Gav8in: | they like either myth's superior viewing experience, or the wicked tivo remote i bought |
[00:58:27] | Gav8in: | |
[00:58:42] | sphery: | that's a good thing |
[00:59:33] | sphery: | wondering whether my system has "PAF" (Personal Acceptance Factor) or "MAF" (Me) or what... |
[00:59:47] | Gav8in: | heh |
[01:00:05] | Dibblah: | Uhhhh...? |
[01:00:07] | Dibblah: | /dev/md10 3605383184 -2855584 3425095792 0% /mnt/backup |
[01:00:37] | Dibblah: | How exactly has that volume got negative used space? :( |
[01:00:38] | Gav8in: | -2855584 eh? |
[01:00:52] | Gav8in: | that would scare the living s--- out of me if i saw it |
[01:01:09] | Gav8in: | mount -o remount,ro /dev/md10 |
[01:01:16] | Gav8in: | sorry, that was my reflexes there |
[01:01:27] | sphery: | wow... That must be the rare "dark" bits that scientists have always theorized exist out there somewhere |
[01:11:19] | EvilGuru (EvilGuru!n=freddie@warzone2100/developer/EvilGuru) has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) | |
[01:13:59] | RyeBrye (RyeBrye!n=ryebrye@170.249.sfcn.org) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[01:23:01] | Gav8in: | well, the system is still suttering and awful |
[01:23:09] | ** Gav8in hrms. ** | |
[01:23:12] | Gav8in: | wish i knew what to fix |
[01:23:39] | paperclip: | http://www.ehomeupgrade.com/2009/08/31/asus-e . . . on-graphics/ |
[01:24:27] | Slim-Kimbo (Slim-Kimbo!n=Kimbo@host86-168-176-99.range86-168.btcentralplus.com) has quit () | |
[01:25:05] | wagnerrp: | no IR sensor? |
[01:25:29] | wagnerrp: | i wonder if anyone makes a USB-plug-mounted sensor |
[01:25:40] | wagnerrp: | like those tiny bluetooth radios |
[01:26:38] | paperclip: | i'm sure it's possible.. |
[01:26:53] | wagnerrp: | well it certainly possible |
[01:26:57] | Gav8in: | well, this sucks. i wish i knew why trunk was so hideouslyh slow on my machine |
[01:26:58] | wagnerrp: | i just wonder if anyone cells one |
[01:27:00] | wagnerrp: | sells |
[01:27:03] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp, the iguanaworks one is IIRC |
[01:27:10] | paperclip: | I'd probably just use a wiimote and one of those bluetooth dongles |
[01:27:53] | wagnerrp: | iamlindoro: close... but the bluetooth dongles im talking about are all of a quarter inch past the end of the USB plug |
[01:27:58] | squish102 (squish102!n=squish10@cpe-075-176-069-055.carolina.res.rr.com) has quit ("= oops wrong button") | |
[01:28:10] | iamlindoro: | the aforementioned is the best you'll find I think |
[01:28:15] | iamlindoro: | find, I |
[01:28:20] | wagnerrp: | the kind of thing you can plug into your laptop, and then put it into a bag without risking it breaking off |
[01:28:37] | paperclip: | yeah.. that's huge :P |
[01:29:13] | wagnerrp: | you remove the transmitters, you could hack that board down to half the size |
[01:29:28] | hadees (hadees!n=hadees@72-48-75-59.dyn.grandenetworks.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[01:29:40] | wagnerrp: | you redesign the board, you could move the chip to the underside and the receiver directly behind the plug |
[01:29:54] | wagnerrp: | easily under half an inch |
[01:31:06] | RDV_Linux (RDV_Linux!n=doug@CPE001195554bb4-CM00111a59bd9e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has quit ("Leaving.") | |
[01:31:27] | paperclip: | yeah.. i'm guessing there are already smaller units |
[01:31:48] | wagnerrp: | not that i know of |
[01:31:53] | jya: | with radio chip , you're pretty much never free to move them wherever you want as they create a lot of digital noise |
[01:32:05] | Gav8in: | i have a usb dingle that sticks about 1/8" past the USB plug on my laptop |
[01:32:42] | Gav8in: | it's not flush, but it's close |
[01:33:01] | IrishGent (IrishGent!n=MattS@71.126.137.196) has left #mythtv-users () | |
[01:33:03] | j-rod: | woo! delivery from Hong Kong... |
[01:33:14] | paperclip: | dingle! :p |
[01:33:16] | Gav8in: | it's useful; my car's diagnostic thingy speaks usb, so when i'm working on my engine i can set my laptop wherever in view and see engine data |
[01:33:29] | Gav8in: | err, s/speaks usb/speaks bluetooth/ |
[01:33:37] | paperclip: | Gav8in: we're talking IR |
[01:33:51] | Gav8in: | well, use a bluetooth dingle and a wiimote |
[01:33:54] | guysoft422: | hi all, i am using gravatars, and for some strange reason, the default gravatar is not the grey shadow, is there a way to set the default? |
[01:34:08] | Gav8in: | that i think was a reasonable suggestion, and there's teeny weeny usb bluetooth dingles. |
[01:34:09] | wagnerrp: | gravatar? |
[01:34:13] | RDV_Linux (RDV_Linux!n=doug@99.235.15.164) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[01:34:41] | j-rod: | also, hdpvr IR receive working quite nicely now, cleaning things up, will then commit the necessary patch |
[01:36:07] | jya: | Having negative free space on unix-like system is common, depending on the OS and filesystem used |
[01:36:14] | Gav8in: | well, i'm now completely flummoxed why my mythbox stopped working with an update |
[01:36:18] | ** Gav8in hrms. ** | |
[01:36:45] | wagnerrp: | there are several FSs that set the 'zero' to somewhere around 5–10% free space |
[01:37:31] | ** wagnerrp still wants to know what a gravatar is in relation to mythtv ** | |
[01:37:33] | sphery: | this was negative /used/ space |
[01:37:50] | paperclip: | Gav8in: problem is that most AV equipment is using IR.. |
[01:37:55] | wagnerrp: | oh? well thats rather funky |
[01:37:56] | jya: | ah yes, more of a worry then :) |
[01:38:27] | sphery: | maybe it means it will delete the first 2855584 bytes you write to it |
[01:38:42] | sphery: | I still think it's dark bits |
[01:38:50] | ** Gav8in hrms. ** | |
[01:40:36] | j-rod: | piss. really must figure out why lirc_zilog insists on not unloading. |
[01:40:50] | Gav8in: | AHA. |
[01:41:00] | Gav8in: | logging playback, it looks like my machine is doing software decoding of video |
[01:41:22] | Gav8in: | 2009-08–31 21:37:26.322 VidOutVDPAU: Created VDPAU context (software decode) |
[01:42:39] | guysoft422: | worng channel :-/ |
[01:43:09] | Gav8in: | oh, what's the right channel? |
[01:45:04] | wagnerrp: | i think guysoft422 meant he was in the wrong channel |
[01:46:00] | Gav8in: | maybe, but what i was talking about was the topic of discussion in #mythtv, so i think he was givin' me a helpful cue |
[01:46:14] | davidm2 (davidm2!n=David@nat/ti/x-jhienlurtrgpztaq) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[01:46:17] | davidm2 (davidm2!n=David@nat/ti/x-jhienlurtrgpztaq) has quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
[01:46:30] | wagnerrp: | doubtful, guysoft422 is not in #mythtv |
[01:46:37] | guysoft422: | wagnerrp, Gav8in yes.. thats what i meant :-S |
[01:49:34] | jst_home (jst_home!n=jst@dpc6935243243.direcpc.com) has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) | |
[01:49:35] | sphery: | Gav8in: those are really -users issues |
[01:49:46] | Gav8in: | sorry |
[01:49:47] | sphery: | until we identify the bug that's causing them |
[01:50:04] | Gav8in: | ah, ok. i'll remember. |
[01:50:05] | sphery: | Gav8in: are you getting it only on channel change? |
[01:50:17] | sphery: | or even when entering LiveTV |
[01:50:19] | Gav8in: | no, all the time. perhaps EIT scans? |
[01:50:21] | sphery: | or even with recordings? |
[01:50:29] | Gav8in: | all the time, even when not recording. |
[01:50:32] | sphery: | oh, even when not wathcing... likely eit-related, then |
[01:50:42] | sphery: | I know nothing of eit, so I can't help with that |
[01:51:12] | Gav8in: | okie |
[01:53:26] | jst_home (jst_home!n=jst@dpc6935243243.direcpc.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[01:56:06] | Lord_Deathscythe (Lord_Deathscythe!n=chris@h216.228.20.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) has quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
[01:59:20] | styelz (styelz!n=yoohoo@m0o0.mooo.com) has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) | |
[02:15:44] | styelz (styelz!n=yoohoo@m0o0.mooo.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[02:21:07] | drenyx: | ok, gonna see how much of my config I lose on reboot :> |
[02:21:09] | drenyx: | bbl |
[02:21:18] | drenyx (drenyx!n=guest@astound-64-85-248-242.ca.astound.net) has quit ("Leaving") | |
[02:23:07] | nighthawk_ (nighthawk_!n=nighthaw@24.128.157.168) has quit (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) | |
[02:24:05] | [R] ([R]!n=rbox@unaffiliated/rbox) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[02:24:36] | squish102 (squish102!n=squish10@cpe-075-176-069-055.carolina.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[02:30:03] | RyeBrye (RyeBrye!n=ryebrye@170.249.sfcn.org) has quit (wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) | |
[02:30:03] | poodyp (poodyp!n=poodyp@cpe-98-148-122-5.socal.res.rr.com) has quit (wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) | |
[02:30:03] | flohack1234598 (flohack1234598!n=hacki@chello084115131198.3.graz.surfer.at) has quit (wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) | |
[02:30:03] | nuonguy (nuonguy!n=john@c-76-102-14-249.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has quit (wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) | |
[02:30:03] | leprechau (leprechau!n=leprecha@temp4.wavelinx.net) has quit (wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) | |
[02:30:03] | abqjp (abqjp!n=john@c-98-230-202-207.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) has quit (wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) | |
[02:30:04] | Caliban (Caliban!n=ianmacd@jiskefet.caliban.org) has quit (wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) | |
[02:30:04] | Agrajag- (Agrajag-!n=filip@c211-30-185-177.artrmn2.nsw.optusnet.com.au) has quit (wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) | |
[02:30:04] | sid3windr (sid3windr!i=luser@bastard-operator.from-hell.be) has quit (wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) | |
[02:30:05] | slayven (slayven!i=slayven@xover.htu.tuwien.ac.at) has quit (wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) | |
[02:30:05] | Therock_ (Therock_!i=therock@connected.through.eushells.com) has quit (wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) | |
[02:34:04] | j-rod: | ok, IR blasting *and* receiving are working on my hdpvr now |
[02:35:49] | [R]: | SWEET |
[02:35:51] | [R]: | i'm getting mine tomorrow |
[02:36:01] | RyeBrye (RyeBrye!n=ryebrye@170.249.sfcn.org) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[02:36:01] | poodyp (poodyp!n=poodyp@cpe-98-148-122-5.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[02:36:01] | flohack1234598 (flohack1234598!n=hacki@chello084115131198.3.graz.surfer.at) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[02:36:01] | nuonguy (nuonguy!n=john@c-76-102-14-249.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[02:36:01] | leprechau (leprechau!n=leprecha@temp4.wavelinx.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[02:36:01] | abqjp (abqjp!n=john@c-98-230-202-207.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[02:36:01] | Caliban (Caliban!n=ianmacd@jiskefet.caliban.org) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[02:36:01] | Agrajag- (Agrajag-!n=filip@c211-30-185-177.artrmn2.nsw.optusnet.com.au) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[02:36:01] | sid3windr (sid3windr!i=luser@bastard-operator.from-hell.be) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[02:36:01] | slayven (slayven!i=slayven@xover.htu.tuwien.ac.at) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[02:36:01] | Therock_ (Therock_!i=therock@connected.through.eushells.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[02:36:26] | [R]: | j-rod: is there instructions somewhere? |
[02:36:54] | j-rod: | not yet |
[02:37:18] | j-rod: | I still have to clean things up so blasting works *without* irsend thinking it failed... |
[02:37:51] | j-rod: | (the driver is currently claiming to have failed after two tries, when in fact, it was successful on both attempts) |
[02:38:07] | j-rod: | (so irsend returns with an error, and the commands get send twice, but they're the correct commands |
[02:38:15] | j-rod: | so full functionality is damned close now |
[02:43:58] | brad2: | nice work j-rod! |
[02:47:08] | [R] ([R]!n=rbox@unaffiliated/rbox) has quit ("Leaving") | |
[02:48:03] | j-rod: | now to figure out why the hell it thinks its failing... |
[02:49:32] | EvilGuru (EvilGuru!n=freddie@helium.witherden.org) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[02:51:35] | poodyp (poodyp!n=poodyp@cpe-98-148-122-5.socal.res.rr.com) has quit () | |
[02:57:43] | mchou (mchou!n=quassel@unaffiliated/mchou) has quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
[03:03:15] | qupada (qupada!n=qupada@131.203.203.2) has quit ("...") | |
[03:03:16] | el_critter (el_critter!n=critter@200.8.188.225) has quit ("Leaving.") | |
[03:04:13] | qupada (qupada!n=qupada@131.203.203.2) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[03:11:49] | MartinCleaver (MartinCleaver!n=martincl@206-248-163-209.dsl.teksavvy.com) has quit () | |
[03:14:22] | kormoc (kormoc!n=kormoc@unaffiliated/kormoc) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[03:14:23] | Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +v kormoc | |
[03:20:41] | jya (jya!n=avenardj@gw2.hydrix.com) has quit () | |
[03:33:13] | dashcloud (dashcloud!n=quassel@pool-96-245-191-112.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) | |
[03:37:43] | Dagmar: | Yeah. |
[03:39:48] | [R] ([R]!n=rbox@unaffiliated/rbox) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[03:43:19] | [R] ([R]!n=rbox@unaffiliated/rbox) has quit (Client Quit) | |
[03:49:02] | j-rod: | ok, blasting working perfectly fine for me now too |
[03:51:04] | kormoc: | woo |
[03:51:13] | kormoc: | updated my kernel version, lost audio |
[03:52:42] | heyheyhey (heyheyhey!n=heyheyhe@c-68-81-148-97.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[03:52:59] | heyheyhey: | hey all |
[03:58:56] | j-rod: | kormoc: yeah, alsa has a tendency to do that, esp. w/anything "Intel HDA" |
[04:01:06] | sphery: | Would that make it "Intel High Definition Silence"? |
[04:01:10] | kormoc: | heh |
[04:01:21] | kormoc: | ahh there we go, different model |
[04:01:58] | kormoc: | hrm |
[04:01:59] | ** iamlindoro wonders if kormoc is setting up new hardware ** | |
[04:02:09] | kormoc: | I am! HDPVR sweetness abounds :) |
[04:02:34] | sphery: | I hear they're working on getting the IR working on those things... |
[04:02:58] | iamlindoro: | I heard if we all switch to SageTV, it "just works" |
[04:03:02] | kormoc: | if it accepts the mceusb 2 remote signals, that'd be awesome |
[04:03:17] | kormoc: | I have to say, the hdpvr is the absolutely easiest thing to setup |
[04:03:59] | wagnerrp: | kormoc: because you want a big glowing blue thing by your tv, rather than a tiny little nondescript black box? |
[04:04:07] | kormoc: | ot |
[04:04:12] | kormoc: | It's actually not bad at all |
[04:04:26] | kormoc: | very very very soft |
[04:04:31] | j-rod: | iamlindoro: I heard if we all switch to Fedora it Just Works. :) |
[04:04:42] | oobe (oobe!n=oobe@insidiousramblings.com) has quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
[04:04:57] | sphery: | who puts their backends by their TVs, anyway? |
[04:05:08] | kormoc: | I do I do! |
[04:05:16] | wagnerrp: | yeah... well you dont even have a frontend by your tv! |
[04:05:37] | j-rod: | sphery: I have my hdpvr hooked to my frontend running as a slave backend, because that's where my only cable box is too |
[04:05:52] | j-rod: | (I actually use the cable box directly a lot of the time for live tv) |
[04:05:59] | sphery: | guess that makes sense |
[04:06:09] | sphery: | well, except for the using the cable box directly part |
[04:06:13] | [R] ([R]!n=rbox@unaffiliated/rbox) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[04:06:21] | ** j-rod spent nearly the entire weekend w/it tuned to Fox Soccer Channel ** | |
[04:06:25] | sphery: | and the LiveTV part |
[04:06:47] | ** wagnerrp goes back to ripping his remaining unripped DVDs ** | |
[04:06:51] | j-rod: | next to zero commercials during soccer games |
[04:07:28] | j-rod: | so its not so bad to just watch it live as background to other stuff I'm working on |
[04:07:42] | sphery: | So I was hoping that kormoc would have finished up the changes for MythWeb that started as a quick patch and quickly got me in over my head. Figured if he had it done, I wouldn't have to feel guilty for not doing it myself. |
[04:07:49] | j-rod: | like, shredding my xbox to fix my latest red ring of death episode |
[04:08:44] | sphery: | oooh... I just had #2 about a month ago |
[04:08:51] | j-rod: | and hacking on a certain device driver... |
[04:08:56] | sphery: | you'll love the new RRoD return process... SO much smoother. |
[04:08:56] | kormoc: | Hehe |
[04:09:08] | j-rod: | this was my 2nd, was about 3 months past the 3 year warranty window |
[04:09:14] | sphery: | :( |
[04:09:22] | j-rod: | so it was a $99 fee to get it repaired |
[04:09:25] | sphery: | my 2nd was 6mos prior to the 3-yr warranty window |
[04:09:30] | j-rod: | said screw it, I'd try myself |
[04:09:30] | oobe (oobe!n=oobe@insidiousramblings.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[04:09:34] | sphery: | (about perfect timing IMHO) |
[04:09:43] | sphery: | what did you end up doing? and did it work? |
[04:10:12] | j-rod: | took it completely apart, put new thermal grease on the gpu and cpu |
[04:10:18] | kormoc: | hrm |
[04:10:24] | j-rod: | then intentionally overheated the gpu for about 30 min |
[04:10:35] | sphery: | to "reflow" it |
[04:10:36] | j-rod: | to reflow solder somewhere |
[04:10:38] | j-rod: | yeah |
[04:10:50] | j-rod: | turn off, let cool, cross fingers... |
[04:10:54] | sphery: | how did you overheat it? |
[04:10:56] | j-rod: | and its back to life |
[04:11:16] | j-rod: | ran it w/the fan shroud removed and the fans blowing air only on the cpu |
[04:11:26] | sphery: | ahhh |
[04:11:30] | sphery: | with a RRoD? |
[04:11:37] | sphery: | still does GPU stuff then? |
[04:11:57] | j-rod: | http://www.llamma.com/xbox360/repair/images/x . . . mp%20074.jpg |
[04:12:12] | j-rod: | yeah, 30 minutes sitting there w/the rrod flashing |
[04:12:24] | j-rod: | http://www.llamma.com/xbox360/repair/ring_of_ . . . lamp_fix.htm for the full fixage |
[04:12:29] | sphery: | nice |
[04:12:35] | j-rod: | though I just put the x-clamps back |
[04:12:38] | sphery: | I'll have to keep that in mind for RRoD #3 |
[04:12:44] | sphery: | (as I don't want to just buy another) |
[04:12:44] | j-rod: | figured washer inserts was the next step |
[04:13:15] | j-rod: | my fallback plan a was to get the arcade one for $200, kinda would like to get a jasper w/hdmi out anyway |
[04:13:23] | j-rod: | plan b is a ps3 slim |
[04:13:38] | sphery: | yeah, arcade for $200 and just slap your old HDD on it... |
[04:13:44] | j-rod: | exactly |
[04:13:52] | j-rod: | (120G WD w/hacked firmware... :) |
[04:13:55] | sphery: | plan b only sucks for having to replace all the games (the expensive part) |
[04:14:03] | j-rod: | yup |
[04:14:04] | sphery: | did you do a DIY HDD upgrade? |
[04:14:09] | j-rod: | I did |
[04:14:19] | sphery: | I'm considering doing that, but was waiting 'til the end of my 3-yr window |
[04:14:25] | j-rod: | originally had a 20 |
[04:14:30] | j-rod: | no reason to wait, really |
[04:14:40] | j-rod: | when you send the xbox in for repair, its w/o the drive anyway |
[04:14:48] | sphery: | yeah, when they're charging >$1/GB there's /no/ way I'd pay for the 120GB |
[04:14:56] | wagnerrp: | ok... now i hate windows again |
[04:14:59] | j-rod: | I think I paid $45 for the drive |
[04:15:01] | sphery: | Yeah, but I didn't know if they'd be able to detect anything... |
[04:15:09] | j-rod: | then a few hours o fpain |
[04:15:12] | wagnerrp: | i dont f-ing want to run this program as administrator |
[04:15:36] | wagnerrp: | i want to run it as my g-d user, without the increased privileges |
[04:15:49] | sphery: | yeah, I was looking and the only one from newegg that's compatible is http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136373 , which is $50 |
[04:15:51] | wagnerrp: | i know exactly what functionality that will inhibit, and im perfectly fine with that |
[04:16:15] | j-rod: | sphery: yep, that's exactly the one I got |
[04:16:33] | j-rod: | the only real gotcha is that the firmware flasher is VERY picky about what sata controller you run it on |
[04:16:35] | sphery: | maybe newegg will do a nice HDD sale or clearance that one or something |
[04:16:41] | sphery: | really... |
[04:16:53] | j-rod: | yeah, I tried like 4 different machines before finding one that actually worked |
[04:16:55] | sphery: | fortunately, I'm starting to get several mobos with different controllers |
[04:16:59] | j-rod: | ended up using an old ICH7, iirc |
[04:17:13] | j-rod: | ICH8 or 9 failed, everything !Intel failed |
[04:17:32] | sphery: | I take it HDDHackr is Windows? |
[04:17:39] | sphery: | that will be the challenge for me... |
[04:17:51] | j-rod: | dos boot disk, actually |
[04:17:56] | sphery: | sweet! |
[04:17:58] | sphery: | that I can do |
[04:18:19] | j-rod: | though I did use xplorer360 (or something like that) under winders to copy files from the old drive |
[04:18:51] | sphery: | cool |
[04:19:03] | sphery: | I'll keep it in mind... 5 more months 'til my EOW |
[04:19:26] | ** j-rod tags and builds a Fedora 11 kernel w/fully functional hdpvr ir support... ** | |
[04:19:50] | sphery: | good work on that, btw. many will be ecstatic |
[04:20:29] | j-rod: | now I can hide mine back away and never ever touch the IR part on it ever again. :) |
[04:21:11] | j-rod: | guess I should try to finish up transmit support on the first-gen mceusb receiver |
[04:21:20] | j-rod: | seems a lot of people are getting those off ebay these days |
[04:23:09] | wagnerrp: | seriously... 3 years later and a program receiving constant updates on windows still requires admin rights |
[04:23:14] | wagnerrp: | thats just lazy |
[04:23:35] | sphery: | which prog? |
[04:23:57] | wagnerrp: | megui.... actually thats not the problem but a dependency, avisynth |
[04:24:27] | wagnerrp: | of course the issues with avisynth can be worked around |
[04:25:06] | wagnerrp: | time to give handbrake a whirl and see what kind of options it gives |
[04:25:07] | sphery: | interesting |
[04:25:44] | wagnerrp: | ive always been a bit put off by it, i have the notion that it is going to do everything for me, without letting me decide what it is doing |
[04:25:58] | wagnerrp: | but having never used it, thats completely unfounded |
[04:27:42] | wagnerrp: | handbrake doesnt seem to like my partial rips... |
[04:28:15] | kormoc: | iamlindoro: have you noticed that the video storage group appears to be calculated in the tv disk space usage? |
[04:28:42] | iamlindoro: | kormoc, yep, fix will require storage group types being implemented |
[04:29:00] | kormoc: | kk, was just worried there for a few :) |
[04:29:45] | ** sphery wonders if he should include http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/6582 since SG types won't be 'til 0.23 ** | |
[04:31:00] | kormoc: | Updates to snow leopard, hdpvr, fun day! |
[04:32:27] | wagnerrp: | yep, handbrake isnt for me |
[04:32:31] | kormoc: | hrm |
[04:32:41] | kormoc: | auto nfs mounts are missing on snow leopard |
[04:32:42] | kormoc: | that's bad |
[04:33:29] | sphery: | guess wagnerrp prefers stomping on the bike pedals so he can do those fancy spinning stops |
[04:33:46] | kormoc: | ahh, it's /changed/ again |
[04:33:51] | kormoc: | it's in disk utility |
[04:34:16] | jya (jya!n=avenardj@60-242-40-141.static.tpgi.com.au) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[04:34:45] | heyheyhey (heyheyhey!n=heyheyhe@c-68-81-148-97.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) | |
[04:37:08] | wagnerrp: | sphery: never seen anyone do donuts on a BMX? |
[04:39:12] | heyheyhey (heyheyhey!n=heyheyhe@c-68-81-148-97.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[04:39:12] | d00gster (d00gster!n=doughant@77.31.106.234) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[04:39:39] | heyheyhey: | is there a way to saperate music video's from movies? |
[04:39:55] | wagnerrp: | what do you mean? |
[04:39:56] | sphery: | in recordings? |
[04:40:07] | sphery: | if so, recording groups |
[04:40:23] | sphery: | or filter by category |
[04:41:12] | heyheyhey: | no i have music video dvds |
[04:41:33] | wagnerrp: | and you want to separate them in mythvideo? |
[04:41:36] | heyheyhey: | in video's it shows music one and movies |
[04:41:38] | wagnerrp: | just put them in different folders |
[04:42:03] | heyheyhey: | yeah it makes it show folders |
[04:42:31] | wagnerrp: | so whats the problem? |
[04:42:39] | heyheyhey: | tring to see if there was a neater way |
[04:42:46] | wagnerrp: | nope, folders |
[04:42:55] | heyheyhey: | if not i delete the music video's |
[04:43:32] | iamlindoro: | Or create categories and when .22 is out use category sort mode |
[04:43:40] | iamlindoro: | category metadata browse mode, that is |
[04:44:34] | sphery: | and in 0.21-fixes, you can just filter on the category of your choosing |
[04:44:49] | j-rod: | hm, I need to see if ppc builds are still borken... |
[04:45:06] | j-rod: | for both of those users that care |
[04:48:13] | wagnerrp: | aww come on.... |
[04:48:40] | wagnerrp: | three times in a row, i got half way through typing out a long path before trying tab-completion |
[04:49:00] | wagnerrp: | only windows doesnt have tab-completion, and i shifted to another box, losing everything i had typed |
[04:49:42] | wagnerrp: | i no longer have control over that pinky, it just hits tab keys all on its own now |
[04:50:09] | kormoc: | the only answer is to cut it off |
[04:50:18] | wagnerrp: | must be |
[04:50:48] | wagnerrp: | of course then i wont have something to break when i need to take my mind off the pain of something else |
[04:51:04] | kormoc: | there's always the other one |
[04:51:30] | wagnerrp: | nah, thats for the 'enter' key on the numpad |
[04:58:37] | wagnerrp: | x264 settings have changed a bit since the last time ive done this |
[05:09:47] | meatmanek_ (meatmanek_!n=meatmane@izanagi.STUDENT.CWRU.Edu) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[05:10:06] | meatmanek_: | does transcoding scale to multiple processors well? |
[05:10:23] | wagnerrp: | meatmanek_: depends on the codec |
[05:11:57] | sphery: | or how many transcodes you're doing concurrently |
[05:12:25] | meatmanek_: | are there codecs which can split onto multiple cores? |
[05:12:29] | wagnerrp: | yes |
[05:12:44] | wagnerrp: | hence... why it would depend on the codec |
[05:12:52] | meatmanek_: | examples? |
[05:13:09] | wagnerrp: | divx, h264, vc1 |
[05:14:04] | wagnerrp: | thats specifically the official divx encoder |
[05:14:19] | wagnerrp: | most ASP implementations (including XviD) do not support multithreaded operation |
[05:16:46] | wagnerrp: | ooh... PS3 3.0 firmware went live a couple hours ago |
[05:25:54] | Dagmar: | Really? |
[05:25:58] | Dagmar: | ANything good in it? |
[05:28:34] | wagnerrp: | theyre migrating away from independent applications |
[05:28:51] | wagnerrp: | so the PS Store is now integrated into the XMB |
[05:29:17] | [R]: | you know what would kick butt... south park studios in mythtv |
[05:29:27] | wagnerrp: | aside from that... i dont know |
[05:29:35] | wagnerrp: | havent really looked at it, or downloaded it |
[05:29:43] | wagnerrp: | [R]: what are you talking about? |
[05:29:53] | [R]: | wagnerrp: being able to watch it inside mythtv |
[05:30:07] | wagnerrp: | yeah, you can... using mythbrowser |
[05:30:17] | [R]: | yeah, i dont want to ahve to use a web browser |
[05:30:21] | [R]: | thats cumbersome |
[05:30:58] | wagnerrp: | well then go complain to comedy central about not making their ToS compliant with scrapers |
[05:32:31] | xris (xris!n=xris@xris.forevermore.net) has quit ("Terminated with extreme prejudice - dircproxy 1.2.0") | |
[05:34:11] | xris (xris!n=xris@xris.forevermore.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[05:34:11] | Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +v xris | |
[05:37:43] | wagnerrp: | i take that back |
[05:38:19] | wagnerrp: | i dont see anything in their ToS that would disallow use of a scraper to build a local interface to their video feeds |
[05:43:57] | oobe (oobe!n=oobe@insidiousramblings.com) has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) | |
[05:45:18] | adante_ (adante_!n=adante@59.167.212.65) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[05:47:07] | adante (adante!n=adante@59.167.212.65) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
[05:47:12] | adante_ is now known as adante | |
[05:49:00] | oobe (oobe!n=oobe@insidiousramblings.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[05:53:38] | jst_home_ (jst_home_!n=jst@dpc6935243243.direcpc.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[05:57:40] | crankhar1er is now known as crankharder | |
[06:00:12] | gnome42 (gnome42!n=gnome42@69-196-130-5.dsl.teksavvy.com) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
[06:08:16] | AndyCrawford (AndyCrawford!n=andycraw@host-72-51-139-54.newwavecomm.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[06:09:32] | AndyCrawford (AndyCrawford!n=andycraw@host-72-51-139-54.newwavecomm.net) has quit (Client Quit) | |
[06:10:46] | jst_home (jst_home!n=jst@dpc6935243243.direcpc.com) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
[06:13:07] | Dagmar (Dagmar!i=dagmar@unaffiliated/dagmar) has quit (Excess Flood) | |
[06:13:20] | Dagmar (Dagmar!i=dagmar@98.193.180.167) has joined #MythTV-Users | |
[06:29:21] | jvs (jvs!n=jvs@90.146.56.206) has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) | |
[06:30:14] | KraMer (KraMer!n=mark@adsl-70-240-204-164.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) has left #mythtv-users ("Leaving") | |
[06:30:15] | Typosu (Typosu!n=moose@S010600195b863efb.ed.shawcable.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[06:33:31] | Typosu (Typosu!n=moose@S010600195b863efb.ed.shawcable.net) has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) | |
[06:34:59] | Typosu (Typosu!n=moose@S010600195b863efb.ed.shawcable.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[06:38:46] | Defense|Twin (Defense|Twin!n=jepz@e177235011.adsl.alicedsl.de) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[06:38:59] | Typosu (Typosu!n=moose@S010600195b863efb.ed.shawcable.net) has quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
[06:39:36] | Tomasu (Tomasu!n=moose@S010600195b863efb.ed.shawcable.net) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
[06:39:41] | Typosu (Typosu!n=moose@174.3.75.174) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[06:44:17] | Wicked (Wicked!n=zero@unaffiliated/blazed) has joined #Mythtv-users | |
[06:45:55] | mgisbers is now known as mgisbers_away | |
[06:46:47] | poodyp (poodyp!n=poodyp@cpe-98-148-122-5.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[06:48:24] | Typosu (Typosu!n=moose@174.3.75.174) has quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
[06:48:45] | Typosu (Typosu!n=moose@S010600195b863efb.ed.shawcable.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[06:48:47] | mgisbers_away is now known as mgisbers | |
[07:00:56] | hangfire_ (hangfire_!i=broadhed@spoon.netsoc.tcd.ie) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[07:01:25] | hangfire (hangfire!i=broadhed@spoon.netsoc.tcd.ie) has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) | |
[07:01:36] | TomasuAway (TomasuAway!n=moose@174.3.75.174) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[07:09:03] | Typosu (Typosu!n=moose@S010600195b863efb.ed.shawcable.net) has quit (Connection timed out) | |
[07:09:20] | FR^2 (FR^2!n=frzwo@2001:41d0:1:ed2f:0:0:0:cafe) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[07:13:54] | oobe (oobe!n=oobe@insidiousramblings.com) has quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
[07:24:18] | mgisbers is now known as mgisbers_away | |
[07:26:11] | oobe (oobe!n=oobe@insidiousramblings.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[07:26:52] | grokky (grokky!n=grokky@excalibur.csse.unimelb.edu.au) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
[07:26:58] | mgisbers_away is now known as mgisbers | |
[07:30:29] | superdump (superdump!n=rob@unaffiliated/superdump) has quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
[07:30:39] | [R] ([R]!n=rbox@unaffiliated/rbox) has quit ("Leaving") | |
[07:31:31] | `oobe` (`oobe`!n=oobe@insidiousramblings.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[07:32:59] | cdpuk (cdpuk!n=chris@cdpuk.cdp.me.uk) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[07:42:04] | `oobe` (`oobe`!n=oobe@insidiousramblings.com) has quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
[07:45:25] | oobe (oobe!n=oobe@insidiousramblings.com) has quit (No route to host) | |
[07:45:47] | the_alien (the_alien!n=till@dslb-084-060-045-225.pools.arcor-ip.net) has quit () | |
[07:55:43] | davilla (davilla!n=davilla@xbmc/staff/davilla) has quit () | |
[07:57:52] | oobe (oobe!n=oobe@insidiousramblings.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[08:06:51] | superdump (superdump!n=rob@unaffiliated/superdump) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[08:15:16] | pizzledizzle (pizzledizzle!n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) has quit () | |
[08:17:41] | Defense|Twin (Defense|Twin!n=jepz@e177235011.adsl.alicedsl.de) has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) | |
[08:17:54] | Defense|Twin (Defense|Twin!n=jepz@e177235011.adsl.alicedsl.de) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[08:43:27] | doc___ (doc___!n=doc@15.Red-80-37-209.staticIP.rima-tde.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[08:45:46] | superdump (superdump!n=rob@unaffiliated/superdump) has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) | |
[08:47:08] | superdump (superdump!n=rob@unaffiliated/superdump) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[08:58:49] | jgarvey (jgarvey!n=jgarvey@cpe-098-026-065-013.nc.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[09:00:01] | gunni (gunni!n=quassel@xdsl-84-44-132-37.netcologne.de) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[09:02:42] | greudin (greudin!n=eugenio@host150-192-dynamic.59-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[09:02:48] | greudin: | hi all |
[09:04:14] | chainsawf (chainsawf!n=chainsaw@121-73-114-254.cable.telstraclear.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[09:06:36] | chainsawbike (chainsawbike!n=chainsaw@121-73-114-254.cable.telstraclear.net) has quit (Nick collision from services.) | |
[09:07:02] | chainsawf is now known as chainsawbike | |
[09:15:32] | gunni_ (gunni_!n=quassel@xdsl-84-44-129-201.netcologne.de) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
[09:15:47] | greudin: | I have a strange problem my HVR-1300 dvb-t(cx2207) work with all program(mplayer kaffeine) except mythtv and I don't know why |
[09:16:03] | greudin: | i always get channel lock |
[09:16:18] | greudin: | and during scan Signal Timeout offset |
[09:21:04] | juski: | try increasing the signal timeout. That is the amount of time mythtv waits to get a lock when it's trying to find a signal |
[09:23:09] | mgisbers is now known as mgisbers_away | |
[09:23:14] | greudin: | juski, oh yes I tryed but also with 15000 it's the same |
[09:23:15] | grokky (grokky!n=grokky@ppp121-44-214-193.lns10.mel4.internode.on.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[09:25:30] | mgisbers_away is now known as mgisbers | |
[09:28:36] | TomasuAway (TomasuAway!n=moose@174.3.75.174) has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) | |
[09:38:14] | greudin: | juski, when I do the scan the signal is near 80% but it don't find anything |
[09:40:08] | saverio (saverio!n=saverio@sisinflab.poliba.it) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[09:42:23] | mindoms (mindoms!n=stefan@93.82.89.183) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[09:43:21] | saverio: | hello, I have a problem in compiling and installing myth on debian lenny... When I launch mythtv-setup or mythfront end I seen coloured rectangles without text and it prints in console this messages : X Error: RenderBadPicture (invalid PictureParameter) |
[09:45:11] | doc___ (doc___!n=doc@15.Red-80-37-209.staticIP.rima-tde.net) has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) | |
[09:45:14] | Defense|Twin (Defense|Twin!n=jepz@e177235011.adsl.alicedsl.de) has quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
[09:45:50] | greudin: | saverio, ninux? |
[09:48:11] | doc___ (doc___!n=doc@15.Red-80-37-209.staticIP.rima-tde.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[09:49:32] | Heliwr (Heliwr!n=Heliwr@S0106000000000001.vs.shawcable.net) has quit ("I've got to get out of this place, if it's the last thing I ever do...") | |
[09:51:19] | univate (univate!n=chris@124-171-167-239.dyn.iinet.net.au) has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) | |
[09:52:47] | Heliwr (Heliwr!n=Heliwr@S0106000000000001.vs.shawcable.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[09:55:11] | Tomasu (Tomasu!n=moose@S010600195b863efb.ed.shawcable.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[10:16:06] | Dr^Mouse (Dr^Mouse!n=karl@mickey.mouse-hole.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[10:16:24] | Dr^Mouse: | hello all |
[10:17:38] | Dr^Mouse: | I'm hoping someone's about who can help me. |
[10:17:48] | juski: | just ask |
[10:19:34] | Tomasu (Tomasu!n=moose@S010600195b863efb.ed.shawcable.net) has quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
[10:19:40] | Dr^Mouse: | I have just set up a projector for my main MythTV box. Although this is fantastic for films, sport and other 'big screen' events, for general TV use it is a little big. I have started zooming out, but I have to do this manually ever time I watch a programme. Is there any way to save a zoom setting to be used as default? |
[10:20:21] | Dr^Mouse: | Or to define a custome 'Fill' setting? |
[10:20:47] | c0p3rn1c (c0p3rn1c!n=jeroen@222.22-200-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[10:20:55] | waxhead_ (waxhead_!n=pete@124.176.60.6) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[10:22:28] | juski: | nope |
[10:23:53] | Tomasu (Tomasu!n=moose@S010600195b863efb.ed.shawcable.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[10:26:22] | Dibblah: | Dr^Mouse: You get used to it. |
[10:30:20] | d00gster (d00gster!n=doughant@77.31.106.234) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
[10:37:54] | Dr^Mouse: | Dibblah: Yeah, I probably will. I'm currently at about a 2:1 viewing ratio (screen width to distance from screen) which is within the range that home theatre sites suggest, and it is fantastic for films etc., but before that I was running a 22" monitor at the same distance. I guess a bit of time will make it fine, but it would be a nice feature to add. |
[10:38:41] | middy (middy!n=middy@203-206-60-40.dyn.iinet.net.au) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[10:40:01] | Dr^Mouse: | Another thing someone may be able to help with. I am a big Formula 1 fan, and now, with the big screen, I would like to be able to watch the 'live' timings on the same screen. I am currently in the process of setting up a way to record those timeings for later playback, but I can't seem to find a way to enable PIP when watching a recording. Is this possible? |
[10:40:20] | Dr^Mouse: | s/timeings/timings/ |
[10:41:29] | Dr^Mouse: | It would also be usefull to enable me to watch my security camera (just a webcam, but set up as an IPTV channel under myth) while watching recordings. |
[10:54:37] | juski: | PBP is possible in current trunk, IIRC – so it'll be in 0.22 |
[10:55:24] | juski: | btw no video source without EPG data is EVER useful in mythtv :) |
[10:55:29] | middy (middy!n=middy@203-206-60-40.dyn.iinet.net.au) has left #mythtv-users () | |
[10:55:44] | juski: | you'll have to feed dummy guide data in for it to work |
[11:00:04] | Dibblah: | Dr^Mouse: I would seriously suggest looking into ZoneMinder. |
[11:00:08] | Dibblah: | And mythzoneminder. |
[11:09:05] | Dr^Mouse: | Dibblah: Ok thanks I'll look into that. And juski: I would be feeding guide data for the live timings, it's currently a work in progress (I will share code for it once it is working). The other thing I looked into was modifying Myth to handle F1 timings, and any other live sports data that may be available, possibly with some sort of plugin, but I never had the time to read up on it. |
[11:11:40] | Dr^Mouse: | currently I am generating a raw yuv stream from a modified live-f1 client into ffserver, but it does the job (kind of, ish... not elegant but good enough for now) |
[11:12:44] | juski (juski!n=justin@cpc1-salf4-0-0-cust69.manc.cable.ntl.com) has quit ("Yawn!") | |
[11:14:23] | Dr^Mouse: | any timescale on 0.22 completion? |
[11:16:01] | styelz (styelz!n=yoohoo@m0o0.mooo.com) has quit (Client Quit) | |
[11:18:46] | styelz (styelz!n=yoohoo@m0o0.mooo.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[11:23:40] | lyricnz (lyricnz!n=simonrob@ppp118-208-219-101.lns10.mel6.internode.on.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[11:26:45] | univate (univate!n=chris@124-171-167-239.dyn.iinet.net.au) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[11:31:33] | mindoms (mindoms!n=stefan@93.82.89.183) has quit (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) | |
[11:39:04] | mindoms (mindoms!n=stefan@vpn1-16.tu-graz.ac.at) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[11:55:20] | Dibblah: | I believe (and don't hold me to this) that we're on-target for a release before the Olympics. |
[11:58:22] | sid3windr: | could always go to the paralympics.. ;) |
[12:03:29] | PointyPumper (PointyPumper!i=Pintlezz@190.244.73.136) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[12:09:25] | d00gster (d00gster!n=doughant@94.97.77.165) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[12:12:49] | Pumpernick (Pumpernick!i=Pintlezz@190.244.73.136) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
[12:14:15] | highzeth (highzeth!n=hz@hoiseth.no) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[12:16:06] | saverio (saverio!n=saverio@sisinflab.poliba.it) has quit ("Sto andando via") | |
[12:16:45] | inordkuo (inordkuo!n=inorkuo@97.66.21.169) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[12:20:45] | waxhead_ (waxhead_!n=pete@124.176.60.6) has quit ("Ex-Chat") | |
[12:34:46] | mazda01 (mazda01!n=daniel@cpe-173-89-33-87.wi.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[12:43:14] | grokky (grokky!n=grokky@ppp121-44-214-193.lns10.mel4.internode.on.net) has quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
[12:50:57] | mindoms (mindoms!n=stefan@vpn1-16.tu-graz.ac.at) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
[12:54:33] | Gav8in: | I'm /win hide |
[13:00:14] | Dr^Mouse (Dr^Mouse!n=karl@mickey.mouse-hole.com) has quit ("leaving") | |
[13:05:40] | MartinCleaver (MartinCleaver!n=martincl@206-248-163-209.dsl.teksavvy.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[13:06:50] | sid3windr: | I'm not |
[13:10:14] | M-M (M-M!n=user@70.54.221.202) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[13:13:25] | davidm (davidm!n=David@nat/ti/x-vmmfyitiwubdvmjb) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[13:13:53] | davidm is now known as Guest33161 | |
[13:14:51] | quasar (quasar!n=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[13:20:51] | CoreDump|home is now known as CoreDump | |
[13:26:54] | flindet (flindet!n=flindet@c-67-164-215-138.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[13:27:52] | doc___ (doc___!n=doc@15.Red-80-37-209.staticIP.rima-tde.net) has quit ("leaving") | |
[13:39:08] | JEDIDIAH__ (JEDIDIAH__!n=jedi@cpe-76-185-72-21.tx.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[13:45:32] | juski (juski!n=justin@cpc1-salf4-0-0-cust69.manc.cable.ntl.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[13:46:10] | olesalscheider (olesalscheider!n=desktop@xdsl-87-79-191-51.netcologne.de) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[13:48:52] | adante (adante!n=adante@59.167.212.65) has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) | |
[13:50:49] | mindoms (mindoms!n=stefan@93.82.89.183) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[13:53:21] | hadees (hadees!n=hadees@72-48-75-59.dyn.grandenetworks.net) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
[14:01:52] | adante (adante!n=adante@59.167.212.65) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[14:02:13] | cocoa117 (cocoa117!n=cocoa117@80-47-205-28.lond-th.dynamic.dial.as9105.com) has quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
[14:04:03] | tank-man (tank-man!i=1000@174.6.38.217) has quit ("Fuck off with your Star Trek ideas") | |
[14:04:19] | tank-man (tank-man!i=1000@174.6.38.217) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[14:09:20] | mindoms (mindoms!n=stefan@93.82.89.183) has quit (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) | |
[14:22:01] | mindoms (mindoms!n=stefan@93-82-89-183.adsl.highway.telekom.at) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[14:22:58] | elprespufferfish: | anybody know why my display is showing the LCDproc Server screen now? it's switching off with the mythtv stuff |
[14:24:19] | j-rod: | elprespufferfish: set ServerScreen=no in LCDd.conf if you don't want to see it |
[14:24:33] | j-rod: | mythtv now correctly round-robins with other screens instead of blocking them all out |
[14:25:16] | elprespufferfish: | j-rod, thanks. i thought that was the default, so i left it commented out |
[14:25:19] | elprespufferfish: | working great now :D |
[14:38:13] | mindoms1 (mindoms1!n=stefan@93-82-87-37.adsl.highway.telekom.at) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[14:39:20] | meatpod (meatpod!n=irchon@192.5.109.49) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[14:39:33] | meatpod: | heyo |
[14:39:49] | juski: | byebye |
[14:39:58] | hadees (hadees!n=hadees@rrcs-97-77-45-90.sw.biz.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[14:40:12] | meatpod: | how much does l2 cache play a role in transcoding speed? |
[14:41:11] | meatpod: | would it be worth the extra $50 to go from q8400 to q9550? |
[14:42:14] | wagnerrp: | meatpod: not significantly |
[14:42:35] | meatpod (meatpod!n=irchon@192.5.109.49) has quit (Client Quit) | |
[14:43:14] | meatpod (meatpod!n=irchon@192.5.109.49) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[14:43:51] | meatpod: | good to know |
[14:44:01] | dmz (dmz!n=dmz@244.sub-75-209-248.myvzw.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[14:44:43] | wagnerrp: | oh dear god... someone on the -users list is recommending someone transcode to 720p MPEG4ASP@1800kbps |
[14:46:02] | Shadow__X: | seems resonable no? |
[14:46:34] | colo (colo!n=karljoha@c-83-233-23-50.cust.bredband2.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[14:46:36] | wagnerrp: | thats a reasonable bitrate if youre encoding to standard definition |
[14:46:47] | wagnerrp: | it will look abysmal at 720p50 |
[14:51:01] | poodyp (poodyp!n=poodyp@cpe-98-148-122-5.socal.res.rr.com) has quit () | |
[14:51:59] | highzeth: | depends *alot* on the action/motion of the video tho ;) |
[14:52:15] | meatpod (meatpod!n=irchon@192.5.109.49) has quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
[14:52:31] | meatpod (meatpod!n=irchon@192.5.109.49) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[14:52:36] | Shadow__X: | but it will be a smaller file |
[14:52:41] | Shadow__X: | and that matters more than quality |
[14:53:11] | meatpod: | to an extent |
[14:53:23] | gregL (gregL!n=greg@cpe-67-246-41-80.nycap.res.rr.com) has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) | |
[14:53:40] | wagnerrp: | if you need smaller files, you need bigger hard drives |
[14:54:18] | wagnerrp: | with how cheap hard drives are, there is no sense sacrificing visible quality for space |
[14:54:23] | highzeth: | I wouldnt mind a 1800kbps encode of say a Golf Contest, I would mind one a F1 race tho |
[14:54:25] | Shadow__X: | newegg did have the 180 2tb deal |
[14:54:32] | meatpod: | a text file containing "blah" would technically be smaller but it's not useful |
[14:54:39] | wagnerrp: | Shadow__X: thats still a bit pricey |
[14:55:01] | Shadow__X: | right but are 1.5tb drives fully safe |
[14:55:13] | wagnerrp: | should be... yes |
[14:55:23] | wagnerrp: | Seagate isnt the only manufacturer |
[14:55:42] | wagnerrp: | and besides, their drives should be safe as well, they have just left a bad taste in peoples mouths |
[14:55:43] | mindoms (mindoms!n=stefan@93-82-89-183.adsl.highway.telekom.at) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
[14:55:53] | Shadow__X: | also right now i have 5 1tb drives in an array and dont really have sata ports left after inlcuding the os drive and the dvdrom |
[14:56:06] | Shadow__X: | i think the next upgrade i do is a full array upgrade |
[14:56:20] | dmz (dmz!n=dmz@244.sub-75-209-248.myvzw.com) has quit ("Leaving") | |
[14:56:29] | Shadow__X: | wagnerrp: yeah esp iamlindoro i feel like he had a horrible time with those drives |
[14:56:56] | jvs (jvs!n=jvs@90.146.56.206) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[15:02:48] | ** j-rod has four of the 1.5T seagates ** | |
[15:02:59] | j-rod: | one has up and died on me |
[15:03:11] | j-rod: | still need to figure out which one it is and get it RMA'd |
[15:03:19] | j-rod: | been busy though |
[15:05:02] | tmkt: | yeah..i have .5T not quite enough |
[15:05:14] | tmkt: | but i think i'll be upgrading now that I've got a job lined up |
[15:05:50] | meatpod: | awesome. my crappy irc client. doesn't display /me messages properly |
[15:06:08] | tmkt: | i'll add 1.5T...2 T should be enough, i'd hope |
[15:06:11] | meatpod: | also iPod ishard to type on |
[15:09:13] | gregL (gregL!n=greg@67.246.41.80) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[15:11:05] | Gav8in: | hrm. rescanned, still getting lots of can't find messages from TVCT ihn my backend log |
[15:11:16] | Gav8in: | there's gotta be a bug here, i'll run through a debugger this evening |
[15:13:05] | Gav8in: | http://www.pastebin.ca/1550383 <-- this crap, over and over and over again |
[15:14:41] | colo (colo!n=karljoha@c-83-233-23-50.cust.bredband2.com) has quit ("leaving") | |
[15:14:51] | meatpod (meatpod!n=irchon@192.5.109.49) has quit () | |
[15:18:55] | cocoa117 (cocoa117!n=cocoa117@80-47-205-28.lond-th.dynamic.dial.as9105.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[15:30:41] | mindoms1 (mindoms1!n=stefan@93-82-87-37.adsl.highway.telekom.at) has quit ("Leaving.") | |
[15:31:29] | Goga777 (Goga777!n=Goga777@shpd-78-36-178-13.static.vologda.ru) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[15:34:48] | middy (middy!n=middy@203-206-60-40.dyn.iinet.net.au) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[15:43:45] | pisani (pisani!n=pisani@CPE-72-135-219-203.wi.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[15:44:35] | pisani (pisani!n=pisani@CPE-72-135-219-203.wi.res.rr.com) has left #mythtv-users () | |
[15:49:35] | greudin (greudin!n=eugenio@host150-192-dynamic.59-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) | |
[15:51:41] | paperclip: | wow.. i ordered an IONITX from newegg yesterday morning and UPS says it's out for delivery for the last 3 hours |
[15:53:01] | FR^2 (FR^2!n=frzwo@2001:41d0:1:ed2f:0:0:0:cafe) has quit ("Connection reset by peer") | |
[15:54:12] | middy (middy!n=middy@203-206-60-40.dyn.iinet.net.au) has quit () | |
[15:57:43] | greudin (greudin!n=eugenio@host197-196-dynamic.49-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[16:01:00] | sphery: | paperclip: live in NJ? IIRC, newegg has a distribution center in Edison. |
[16:01:36] | paperclip: | I'm in new orleans.. they also ship from Memphis |
[16:02:19] | sphery: | wow... memphis->new orleans is still far enough I'd have thought it would take a couple days |
[16:02:45] | paperclip: | it says they received it last night at 8p |
[16:02:52] | paperclip: | it's an 8 our drive.. |
[16:02:54] | paperclip: | hour |
[16:03:11] | paperclip: | pretty good time for ups |
[16:03:15] | elprespufferfish: | nice :D |
[16:03:58] | paperclip: | I'm excited.. all the parts for my first true HTPC |
[16:04:21] | paperclip: | previously i'd only run boxee on a laptop with a broken screen :P |
[16:04:35] | AndyCap: | oh come on, this is patentable? a remote that twits when you turn on tv? http://www.bizjournals.com/triangle/stories/2 . . . ana=from_rss |
[16:05:03] | paperclip: | why would you want that in the first place |
[16:05:43] | AndyCap: | besides, they don't really want it on twitter I guess, they want to secretly send it to nielsen.com :P |
[16:06:04] | paperclip: | i could see that as slightly useful.. |
[16:06:52] | AndyCap: | then again I don't really get twitter. :P |
[16:07:18] | paperclip: | i get it.. but auto messages are pretty annoying in general.. |
[16:08:00] | paperclip: | it'd be like having a bot in channel that said every time you loaded a web page.. |
[16:08:54] | jpabq (jpabq!n=jpabq@71-38-209-160.albq.qwest.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[16:09:05] | AndyCap: | heh, yet I've seen people having their clients autoannounce mp3 playback |
[16:09:10] | the_alien (the_alien!n=till@mail.ism-dortmund.de) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[16:09:11] | AndyCap: | (and get banned for it) :) |
[16:09:26] | the_alien (the_alien!n=till@mail.ism-dortmund.de) has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) | |
[16:09:36] | the_alien (the_alien!n=till@mail.ism-dortmund.de) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[16:09:49] | meatmanek_: | see |
[16:10:01] | Goga777 (Goga777!n=Goga777@shpd-78-36-178-13.static.vologda.ru) has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) | |
[16:10:14] | meatmanek_: | some people assume that everybody wants to know every detail of your day |
[16:10:22] | meatmanek_: | their* |
[16:10:39] | Goga777 (Goga777!n=Goga777@shpd-95-53-187-168.vologda.ru) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[16:11:02] | Shadow__X: | or some peoples lifes are so pathetic and mudanne they need to try and get as much attention towards theirs lives as possible to feel as if they truely do have a purpose |
[16:11:16] | Shadow__X: | s/lifes/lives |
[16:13:45] | MythbuntuGuest94 (MythbuntuGuest94!n=Mythbunt@nat/novell/x-czajyhkotyujqeoe) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[16:15:49] | MythbuntuGuest94: | Hello, I have mythbunut and I am having trouble displaying other channels when I watch live tv |
[16:16:50] | MythbuntuGuest94: | I have pvr-150 with cable coax and it is set to come up to channel 2. However when I change channels it just goes to a black screen |
[16:19:20] | Dagmar: | You should read the documentation |
[16:19:41] | Dagmar: | You need to use an IR blaster or somethign to make the cable box change channels if you've got it hooked up that way |
[16:20:27] | Dagmar: | AndyCap: They may be trying to highlight the stupidity of the patent process |
[16:20:28] | MythbuntuGuest94: | I do not have a cable box, in another room i have a tv directly conneceted to the cable and I just change the channels on the tv |
[16:20:50] | Dagmar: | Either early last month or the month before last, some patent trolls actually filed suit against Twitter |
[16:21:08] | MythbuntuGuest94: | http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/f1be0b0d0 |
[16:22:06] | dwax (dwax!n=dweather@206.83.81.179.ptr.us.xo.net) has quit ("Ex-Chat") | |
[16:22:10] | kormoc (kormoc!n=kormoc@unaffiliated/kormoc) has quit ("http://www.seagl.org") | |
[16:23:07] | Dagmar: | I'm on a text-console at the moemnt so I can't pull that up right now... What's channel 2 got to do with it then? |
[16:23:10] | sphery: | empty pastebin? |
[16:23:25] | Dagmar: | I assumed since you mentioned it you had a cable box outputting to channel 2 over RF |
[16:23:33] | AndyCap: | Dagmar: I don't think it's possible to find a patent stupid enough. |
[16:23:45] | Dagmar: | If that's not the case, then just check you logs. |
[16:23:59] | MythbuntuGuest94: | sphery it should be /f1be2b0d0 |
[16:24:35] | Dagmar: | AndyCap: You should see the patent the trolls got. It actually covers delivery of short messages "near instantaneously" over multiple mediums |
[16:24:42] | MythbuntuGuest94: | sorry, /f1be2b0d0 |
[16:25:02] | Dagmar: | Like, if they hadn't mentioned multiple mediums, the most retarded patent examiner would have bounced their application with one word: "PAGERS!" |
[16:25:19] | Dagmar: | Rather clearly, they will fail if it goes to court |
[16:25:30] | MythbuntuGuest94: | Dagmar, channel 2 is what it is set to go to on start up. It is the only channel that works however |
[16:25:56] | Dagmar: | Okay so it's basically not changing channels then... Check the backend log (hopefully /var/log/mythbackend.log) and your dmesg output |
[16:26:01] | sphery: | MythbuntuGuest94: first thing to fix: OSDImgCache, Error: Creating osdcache directory failed. |
[16:26:23] | Dagmar: | sphery can surely walk you through it |
[16:26:29] | Dagmar: | I gotta git to work |
[16:26:45] | sphery: | myth creates a directory $HOME/.mythtv/osdcache , where it keeps local copies of theme elements. You need to fix permissions so it can |
[16:27:38] | sphery: | note that $HOME may not be your user's home--it's the HOME of whichever user is running the mythfrontend program |
[16:28:33] | sphery: | you won't be able to control volume because of: mixer unable to find control Master 1 |
[16:28:35] | Dagmar: | BTW... wowpapercraft.blogspot.com <-- some of the stuff on there is insane |
[16:28:38] | Dagmar: | worng chan |
[16:28:57] | Dagmar: | I get the feeling the backend wasn't told there was a PVR-150 |
[16:29:10] | Dagmar: | It's hard to break ivtv driver loading on Mythbuntu |
[16:29:16] | sphery: | you need to change your "Mixer controls" setting to PCM or, if you have a "new, advanced" Intel HDA sound card that's lacking /both/ PCM and Master controls, you'll need to either create a softvol control or use external volume control |
[16:29:28] | sphery: | actually, I think that's a SG issue... |
[16:29:43] | sphery: | Or an Intel video drivers issue |
[16:30:00] | MythbuntuGuest94: | Sphery – ok yes I usally run the front end as a regualr user |
[16:30:29] | Dagmar: | Make sure your disk isn't full then |
[16:30:53] | sphery: | ProgramInfo, Error: GetPlaybackURL: '1013_20090720115124.mpg' should be local, but it can not be found. |
[16:30:56] | sphery: | is bad |
[16:31:05] | tgm4883 is now known as tgm4883_ | |
[16:31:09] | Dagmar: | Hence, check the disk space |
[16:31:20] | sphery: | MPEGRec(/dev/video0) Warning: Audio sample rate 32000 Hz is not supported by ivtv driver, using 48000 Hz instead. |
[16:31:22] | tgm4883_ is now known as tgm4883 | |
[16:31:23] | sphery: | is worse |
[16:31:28] | Dagmar: | eek |
[16:31:31] | Dagmar: | Man I gotta run |
[16:31:37] | sphery: | In your Recording Profiles, change the audio sample rate to 48kHz |
[16:31:45] | sphery: | Can't use 32kHz with ivtv' |
[16:32:06] | sphery: | (and there's no reason to do so, anyway--audio bitrate is negligible compared to video, so no real benefit to reducing it) |
[16:32:34] | sphery: | For the playback problems, first fix the recording profile |
[16:33:01] | sphery: | then if you still don't get video, start looking at the "should be local, but it can not be found" thing--fix your Storage Groups configuration/directory permissions/etc. |
[16:33:07] | MythbuntuGuest94: | sphery – I do not have an osdcache directory in my regular users directory or my mythuser directory. |
[16:33:19] | sphery: | right, it's saying it cannot create it |
[16:33:37] | sphery: | whichever user was running mythfrontend did not have permissions on the $HOME/.mythtv directory |
[16:34:21] | sphery: | I didn't get enough of the frontend log to see which directory it's using, though |
[16:35:41] | sphery: | actually, it seems we don't output it for the frontend... |
[16:35:48] | ** sphery will have to fix that ** | |
[16:38:04] | MythbuntuGuest94: | so shoudl i change my permissions for my .mthtv dir only or recserivly? or do i just need to change the owner? |
[16:38:48] | andreax (andreax!n=andreaz@p57B94F59.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[16:38:55] | sphery: | what are permissions for /home/mythtv and /home/mythtv/.mythtv |
[16:39:00] | sphery: | (assuming mythuser is mythtv) |
[16:39:53] | andreax (andreax!n=andreaz@p57B94F59.dip.t-dialin.net) has quit (Client Quit) | |
[16:40:24] | MythbuntuGuest94: | . |
[16:40:49] | stoth (stoth!n=stoth@ool-18bfe0d5.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[16:40:53] | MythbuntuGuest94: | drwxr-xr-x for mythtv |
[16:42:15] | MythbuntuGuest94: | having trouble listing my .mythtv dir |
[16:42:31] | sphery: | sudo ls -ld /home/mythtv/.mythtv |
[16:42:35] | sphery: | perhaps |
[16:42:50] | sphery: | if that doesn't work, there's definitely a problem there :) |
[16:43:30] | MythbuntuGuest94: | ok that worked : ) |
[16:43:46] | Anduin (Anduin!n=awithers@pdpc/supporter/professional/anduin) has quit ("leaving") | |
[16:43:54] | MythbuntuGuest94: | drwxr-xr-x mythtv root |
[16:44:25] | sphery: | and mythfrontend is running as user mythtv? |
[16:44:50] | sphery: | if so: sudo rm -r /home/mythtv/.mythtv/{osd,theme}cache |
[16:44:53] | sphery: | and restart the frontend |
[16:44:57] | Anduin (Anduin!n=awithers@pdpc/supporter/professional/anduin) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[16:44:57] | Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +v Anduin | |
[16:45:11] | sphery: | then fix the recording profile |
[16:45:18] | sphery: | then test |
[16:45:59] | sphery: | oh, and be very careful with the syntax on that rm command or you could do bad things... |
[16:46:07] | sphery: | i.e. errant spaces are /very/ dangerous |
[16:46:29] | MythbuntuGuest94: | ya, well i normall run the frontend from the gui when i'm logged in as a regular user (not mythtv user) |
[16:46:29] | sphery: | (I recommend copy/paste) |
[16:46:56] | MythbuntuGuest94: | sphery – should i still run that command? |
[16:47:10] | sphery: | I would guess that the mythbuntu start script is setting the process to run as the user they've configured |
[16:47:30] | sphery: | if not, you'll need to find "the right way" to start it--I don't know MythBuntu, so I can't tell you how they've defined it |
[16:47:34] | sphery: | but, yeah, run that command |
[16:47:40] | sphery: | can't hurt and just might fix any problems |
[16:48:16] | sphery: | in #ubuntu-mythtv they could tell you more about how to "occasionally" run mythfrontend on a system (getting it set up and how to start it properly) |
[16:48:25] | jarjar (jarjar!n=jarjar@ANantes-256-1-90-168.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[16:49:05] | jarjar: | hello i search french user can you help me please |
[16:50:50] | MythbuntuGuest94: | spherey – no such file or directory. I doulbe checked and verified this |
[16:51:23] | MythbuntuGuest94: | those files dont exist |
[16:52:17] | sphery: | then you're probably starting mythfrontend wrong for how they've designed the distro |
[16:52:23] | sphery: | some mythbuntu user will have to help |
[16:52:38] | sphery: | but still fix recording profiles |
[16:52:43] | sphery: | then possibly storage groups |
[16:53:03] | raptorjr (raptorjr!n=raptorjr@92-32-118-48.tn.glocalnet.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[16:54:20] | MythbuntuGuest94: | ok |
[16:54:22] | raptorjr: | hello, i did a update right now of trunk, and when i enter watch recordings the frontend takes 100% cpu, is this known or is it only me? |
[16:54:47] | gnome42 (gnome42!n=gnome42@76-10-148-210.dsl.teksavvy.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[16:58:11] | MythbuntuGuest94: | sphery- thaks for your help |
[17:03:57] | sphery: | raptorjr: sounds like you're on a system that only works with vdpau and you don't have current trunk |
[17:04:20] | raptorjr: | i have 21623 |
[17:05:06] | raptorjr: | |
[17:05:13] | raptorjr: | i'm |
[17:05:22] | sphery: | yeah, there's no live preview in trunk' |
[17:05:29] | sphery: | did you have trunk working before? |
[17:05:42] | sphery: | if not, it's almost definitely a configuration issue on your system |
[17:06:00] | raptorjr: | yes, did the latest update a few days ago. i'm kind of new at this, how do i go back to a specific revision? |
[17:09:58] | sphery_ (sphery_!n=mdean@user-0c6sj46.cable.mindspring.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[17:09:59] | Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +v sphery_ | |
[17:12:54] | sphery_: | raptorjr: as I was saying before my power so rudely disappeared... because other people are getting playback with current trunk |
[17:14:41] | the_alien (the_alien!n=till@mail.ism-dortmund.de) has quit () | |
[17:22:52] | sphery (sphery!n=mdean@user-0c6sj46.cable.mindspring.com) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
[17:24:41] | jarjar: | hello i have download a channels.conf for my country |
[17:25:11] | jarjar: | where do i put it in for i can see tv? |
[17:25:33] | sphery_: | jarjar: in MythTV, you should really use the mythtv-setup channel scanner to configure channels |
[17:26:02] | sphery_: | channels.conf doesn't have all the information MythTV needs, so importing it doesn't usually work well |
[17:26:03] | jarjar: | i use mythbuntu |
[17:26:20] | sphery_: | start mythtv-setup and go through the steps there |
[17:26:42] | jarjar: | it's a channels.conf by a man in a mythtv french forum |
[17:27:01] | sphery_: | still, myth doesn't use channels.conf |
[17:27:10] | d00gster (d00gster!n=doughant@94.97.77.165) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
[17:27:12] | sphery_: | and it doesn't have enough info |
[17:27:20] | sphery_: | so you should scan for yourself |
[17:27:39] | jarjar: | ok a restart a scan with myth setup |
[17:27:41] | raptorjr: | sphery_, there was no problem with playback, it works perfectly, it was when i'm on the watch recordings screen |
[17:28:08] | sphery_: | raptorjr: oh, sorry... I misread. Yeah, that's a known issue. |
[17:28:14] | sphery_: | price of running unstable code :) |
[17:28:21] | the_alien (the_alien!n=till@mail.ism-dortmund.de) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[17:28:28] | raptorjr: | :) |
[17:28:30] | sphery_ is now known as sphery | |
[17:29:13] | raptorjr: | then i know, didn't notice it before when i switched to trunk a few days ago |
[17:29:31] | sphery: | it's been there for a long time |
[17:29:44] | sphery: | however, you'll see it more depending on config |
[17:29:56] | sphery: | only happens with opengl painter |
[17:30:01] | raptorjr: | ok |
[17:30:09] | sphery: | and some themes show it more than others |
[17:30:27] | raptorjr: | thought it was funny since nothing is mowing on that screen |
[17:30:33] | raptorjr: | moving |
[17:30:40] | sphery: | actually, there's a lot moving--you just don't see it :) |
[17:30:52] | raptorjr: | ok :) |
[17:31:00] | sphery: | it's alphapulse and the clock |
[17:31:24] | sphery: | so, depending on theme, the moving stuff may all be invisible |
[17:39:45] | inordkuo (inordkuo!n=inorkuo@97.66.21.169) has quit (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) | |
[17:39:47] | raptorjr: | it seems that it was because i had disabled composite in xorg. read somewhere that it was a good thing to do if you were running vdpau |
[17:40:15] | raptorjr: | now everything works like it did before 9% cpu in watch recording screen |
[17:40:37] | inordkuo (inordkuo!n=inorkuo@97.66.21.169) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[17:41:33] | YangYin (YangYin!n=YangYin@c-98-228-112-238.hsd1.il.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[17:42:33] | hangfire_ (hangfire_!i=broadhed@spoon.netsoc.tcd.ie) has left #mythtv-users () | |
[17:42:57] | Pumpernick (Pumpernick!i=Pintlezz@190.244.73.136) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[17:43:27] | greudin: | absurd |
[17:43:45] | greudin: | I get Not ivtv driver?? in the log when I try to watch live tv |
[17:43:57] | greudin: | 20 minutes ago all it's ok |
[17:44:09] | greudin: | after upgrade alsa this mess |
[17:44:16] | greudin: | why!! |
[17:44:24] | raptorjr: | how can i remove a commercial flagging of a recording? after i edited the recording and removed all commercials, and transcoded it. the flagging is still there and jumps when it shouldnt =) |
[17:49:16] | sphery: | greudin: sounds like you have multiple different devices and on reboot they moved--you need udev rules or module options to "pin" your video devices to a specific number |
[17:50:06] | sphery: | raptorjr: you should transcode it in myth. if you do it removes all that garbage automatically |
[17:50:16] | raptorjr: | yes i did |
[17:50:25] | sphery: | then you don't have the old flag list |
[17:51:00] | PointyPumper (PointyPumper!i=Pintlezz@190.244.73.136) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
[17:51:08] | sphery: | but play the recording and hit e, then z, then clear all the cut points, then exit to playback |
[17:51:29] | raptorjr: | ok, will try |
[17:53:52] | kormoc (kormoc!n=kormoc@unaffiliated/kormoc) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[17:53:52] | Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +v kormoc | |
[17:55:15] | wagnerrp: | looks like WD released Black and RE 2TB drives today |
[17:55:23] | kormoc: | OOH! |
[17:55:24] | kormoc: | linkie? |
[17:55:30] | sphery: | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/09/01/wd_2tb_caviar_black/ |
[17:55:42] | kormoc: | UGHHHH!!!! a week too late!!! |
[17:55:48] | sphery: | was waiting for kormoc to show up for that, but wagnerrp pounced first! |
[17:55:57] | wagnerrp: | heh |
[17:56:05] | wagnerrp: | figured as much |
[17:56:07] | kormoc: | Time for another upgrade! Woo! |
[17:56:10] | wagnerrp: | you had that link up too fast |
[17:56:14] | sphery: | yeah |
[17:56:47] | wagnerrp: | i just happened upon it at anandtech right as kormoc logged in |
[17:56:55] | wagnerrp: | kormoc: that mean you ordered a green last week? |
[17:56:56] | Heliwr (Heliwr!n=Heliwr@S0106000000000001.vs.shawcable.net) has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) | |
[17:57:04] | kormoc: | wagnerrp: nah, 1 tb blacks |
[17:57:25] | kormoc: | I don't do green or blue ;) |
[17:57:27] | edizzle (edizzle!n=ereyna@nat/novell/x-astinrmwdvvtwriy) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[17:57:38] | wagnerrp: | a racist eh? |
[17:57:41] | kormoc: | Just means my desktop gets the 1t's and the server gets the 2t's |
[17:57:59] | kormoc: | If supporting a downtrodden color is colorist, then paint it black! |
[17:58:05] | ** kormoc starts humming rolling stones ** | |
[17:58:36] | Heliwr (Heliwr!n=Heliwr@S0106000000000001.vs.shawcable.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[17:58:36] | wagnerrp: | do they still make blues? |
[17:58:43] | kormoc: | so sphery I think I have all the sleeps out, just tracking down some odd behavior with the refresh, it's refreshing after the schedule incorrectly. |
[17:59:46] | kormoc: | wagnerrp: afaik yeah |
[17:59:57] | sphery: | kormoc: cool... did you end up updating rec_default() , rec_override() , activate() , etc? |
[18:00:07] | kormoc: | sphery: the ones that didn't call reschedule, aye |
[18:00:12] | YangYin (YangYin!n=YangYin@c-98-228-112-238.hsd1.il.comcast.net) has quit () | |
[18:00:28] | sphery: | so there was some other place besides the ones I marked in that proto-patch? |
[18:00:44] | wagnerrp: | i think they still make 2.5" blues, but i havent seen a 3.5" blue in a long time |
[18:01:14] | sphery: | Seagate will soon have a 1TB 2.5" : http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/09/01/2tb_seagate_sff/ |
[18:01:22] | sphery: | (don't know why the URI says 2tb) |
[18:01:47] | ** wagnerrp complains about his stale fortune cookie ** | |
[18:02:08] | ** wagnerrp complains about his retarded fortune ** | |
[18:02:23] | MythbuntuGuest94 (MythbuntuGuest94!n=Mythbunt@nat/novell/x-czajyhkotyujqeoe) has quit () | |
[18:03:14] | AndyCap: | wagnerrp: that's why you should go for the fortune cookies with wings. |
[18:03:56] | MythBork (MythBork!n=B@74-128-60-179.dhcp.insightbb.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[18:04:10] | AndyCap: | now even in a flash variety, http://www.9news.com/news/article.aspx?storyi . . . provider=top |
[18:05:14] | kormoc: | IPoAC |
[18:05:55] | wagnerrp: | kormoc: i heard some white water rapids company is actually using that |
[18:06:15] | kormoc: | Yup, hence AndyCap's link :) |
[18:06:50] | wagnerrp: | oh, didnt click on it |
[18:07:57] | edizzle (edizzle!n=ereyna@nat/novell/x-astinrmwdvvtwriy) has left #mythtv-users () | |
[18:10:31] | messerting (messerting!n=messerti@cm-84.208.182.112.getinternet.no) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[18:16:04] | FR^2 (FR^2!n=frquadra@frquadrat.de) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[18:17:16] | MythBork (MythBork!n=B@74-128-60-179.dhcp.insightbb.com) has quit ("Leaving") | |
[18:22:17] | the_alien (the_alien!n=till@mail.ism-dortmund.de) has quit () | |
[18:23:33] | wagnerrp: | will the jobqueue trigger more than one job per minute? |
[18:24:37] | dansushi (dansushi!n=dan@147.4.211.195) has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) | |
[18:24:44] | wagnerrp: | actually, better question... is there any way to detect what what machines are currently running a jobqueue |
[18:24:52] | wagnerrp: | through mythbackend or otherwise |
[18:25:08] | gizmobay (gizmobay!n=gizmobay@VDSL-130-13-9-12.PHNX.QWEST.NET) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[18:25:33] | dansushi (dansushi!n=dan@147.4.211.195) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[18:31:13] | GlemSom (GlemSom!n=glemsom@0x5da34bca.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1105.sdnqu1.customer.tele.dk) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[18:31:39] | sphery: | wagnerrp: meaning what machines are allowed to run jobs or what machines are currently executing jobs? |
[18:32:44] | _tux (_tux!n=Miranda@mnch-4d043a46.pool.mediaWays.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[18:33:10] | tank-man (tank-man!i=1000@174.6.38.217) has quit ("Fuck off with your Star Trek ideas") | |
[18:33:46] | wagnerrp: | meaning what machines are allowed to run jobs (and currently have a jobqueue running that can run them) |
[18:34:14] | iamlindoro: | http://www.fecitfacta.com/mv_23_menu.png |
[18:34:17] | wagnerrp: | i suppose i can always just add a job for that machine, and remove it ~3 minutes later if it has not been executed |
[18:34:55] | sphery: | any reason you need to specify which machine? |
[18:35:11] | wagnerrp: | so i can test a particular machine |
[18:35:16] | sphery: | ahh... |
[18:35:24] | sphery: | was thinking this was for the bindigns or something |
[18:35:40] | wagnerrp: | no, this is something to facilitate exporting to other devices |
[18:35:44] | sphery: | iamlindoro: pretty |
[18:35:52] | iamlindoro: | thanks |
[18:35:58] | sphery: | I like the alpha |
[18:36:25] | sphery: | but those fonts look a little heavy... |
[18:36:26] | sphery: | :) |
[18:36:44] | iamlindoro: | Yeah, trying to learn from mistakes made in Graphite, slowly but durely hammering it in to a style I can move forward with |
[18:36:51] | iamlindoro: | That's Inkscape, the font rendering is correct there ;) |
[18:36:52] | sphery: | (joking about your previous comments re: Qt fonts) |
[18:36:57] | sphery: | d'oh |
[18:37:00] | sphery: | ruins my joke |
[18:37:12] | wagnerrp: | i want to be able to add a hot-swap hard drive to a backend/jobqueue, have it detect the hard drive, and sync selected content over to it, along with a sql file to drop all existing content, and add the new content |
[18:37:29] | sphery: | and removes all artistic credibility I may have falsely acquired |
[18:42:10] | KraMer (KraMer!n=mark@adsl-70-240-204-164.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[18:50:38] | _tux (_tux!n=Miranda@mnch-4d043a46.pool.mediaWays.net) has quit ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") | |
[18:51:00] | _tux (_tux!n=Miranda@mnch-4d043a46.pool.mediaWays.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[18:55:52] | scan_away (scan_away!n=scan@64.34.165.146) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[18:59:32] | outlier (outlier!n=tom@76.216.128.10) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[19:01:39] | paperclip (paperclip!n=papercli@ip72-204-175-205.no.no.cox.net) has quit ("Ex-Chat") | |
[19:05:49] | lcase (lcase!n=lcase@p5B0E8D14.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[19:07:05] | d00gster (d00gster!n=doughant@77.30.9.36) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[19:07:16] | raptorjr (raptorjr!n=raptorjr@92-32-118-48.tn.glocalnet.net) has quit () | |
[19:08:05] | iamlindoro: | http://www.fecitfacta.com/mv_23_menu2.png |
[19:08:09] | iamlindoro: | Getting little closer... |
[19:09:00] | sphery: | are you moving stuff around? |
[19:09:14] | sphery: | I didn't keep the old one to compare |
[19:09:24] | sphery: | oh, but the old didn't have a 2 |
[19:09:49] | sphery: | bubbles are good--look polished |
[19:10:41] | iamlindoro: | yeah... just need to figure out what to do about the floating screenshots and I'll have something to work with |
[19:11:06] | sphery: | So is that a Mongolian gazelle or a Tibetan Fox in the background? Strange looking plains-creature... And I've heard of bluegrass, before, but didn't realize just how blue it was. |
[19:11:52] | sphery: | (I'm joking there--I realize it's a series pic, not an episode one :) |
[19:12:26] | sphery: | I think it would actually be /very/ disturbing if the background changed on every scroll to another episode. |
[19:12:52] | iamlindoro: | within TV series, fanart doesn't change |
[19:13:08] | iamlindoro: | (unless the user has specified individual fanarts for each episode) |
[19:14:51] | iamlindoro: | I would really really like to see smooth crossfades between fanarts, though |
[19:14:59] | iamlindoro: | and if I had any notion of how to do it I would do so myself |
[19:15:13] | j-rod: | wow, is trebek really still vertical? |
[19:16:28] | Dagmar: | When he's not being ridden by high-priced women, sure |
[19:16:48] | outlier (outlier!n=tom@76.216.128.10) has quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
[19:19:01] | ekristen (ekristen!n=ekristen@pool-173-79-94-195.washdc.fios.verizon.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[19:19:39] | Defense|Twin (Defense|Twin!n=jepz@e177235011.adsl.alicedsl.de) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[19:20:42] | ekristen: | hello, I just got FIOS installed today, used to have comcast cable, besides running through the mythtv setup and doing a mythfilldatabase (now that I have switched over my schedules direct) is there anything else I need to do? |
[19:23:41] | Shadow__X: | ekristen: is watch tv working for your sources |
[19:24:07] | ekristen: | Shadow__X: its all digital so I am working on setting up the STB with my pvr 150 and irblaster |
[19:24:29] | Shadow__X: | you might beable to atleast use firewire to change the channels |
[19:24:36] | Shadow__X: | but ymmv |
[19:24:53] | Shadow__X: | just a thought also you can atleast get local broadcasts over firewire |
[19:25:01] | Shadow__X: | which would give you a smidgen on hd |
[19:25:30] | ekristen: | eh, well I got my PVR-150 with the irblaster cable |
[19:25:33] | ekristen: | thought I would just use that |
[19:28:22] | gbee (gbee!n=gbee@cpc1-derb9-0-0-cust513.leic.cable.ntl.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[19:28:22] | Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +v gbee | |
[19:29:53] | sphery: | ekristen: mythfilldatabase won't remove non-existent channels by default... The cleanest approach to /ensuring/ you're not leaving garbage/forgetting required steps is to do the video sources portion of http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/264034#264034 . |
[19:30:32] | sphery: | ekristen: you can try manually deleting the channels that are no longer in your lineup and mfdb's --remove-new-channels might work, but I won't guarantee any approach will work except the one in the linked post |
[19:30:34] | ekristen: | sphery: if I delete all video sources, my existing shows will still have their metadata correct? |
[19:30:43] | Shadow__X: | sphery: you should make a shortcut for that link |
[19:31:02] | sphery: | ekristen: all metadata, yeah, but if your chanid's change, they will no longer have channel numbers/icons shown |
[19:31:10] | sphery: | they = old recordings |
[19:31:12] | ekristen: | eh that I don't care about :) |
[19:31:21] | sphery: | your new channels will have their channel info, obviously |
[19:31:30] | ekristen: | I just wnat to be able to know what I am watching in my old recordings |
[19:31:51] | sphery: | I have a patch for the restore script that will eventually correct channel issues like that, but it's not ready and we're in a feature freeze |
[19:32:06] | sphery: | that won't be a problem... |
[19:32:13] | sphery: | all /important/ info will be there |
[19:35:13] | ekristen: | is there an option to tell mythtvsetup to ignore the resolution and offset adjustments? I am trying to configure my mythtv backend from my laptop using ssh and it is only backend now, it used to be a frontend too |
[19:35:28] | stoth (stoth!n=stoth@ool-18bfe0d5.dyn.optonline.net) has quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
[19:35:57] | sphery: | ekristen: mythtv-setup -O ThemePainter=qt -geometry 800x600 |
[19:35:59] | sphery: | or whatever |
[19:37:35] | ekristen: | much better |
[19:37:36] | ekristen: | thanks |
[19:37:46] | ekristen: | and its -geometry before the 800x600 |
[19:37:58] | sid3windr: | that's what sphery said:P |
[19:39:49] | Goga777 (Goga777!n=Goga777@shpd-95-53-187-168.vologda.ru) has quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
[19:41:15] | gpd: | any clue if the aspire revos function well as mythtv frontends? |
[19:41:48] | sphery: | for the type of content it plays and good quality versions of that type of content, probably |
[19:42:04] | sphery: | i.e. you're completely at the mercy of the nvidia drivers/vdpau |
[19:42:23] | sphery: | IMHO, frontends should be the most powerful part of your myth setup |
[19:42:53] | gpd: | unfortunately i don't have license to put in a non-silent solution |
[19:43:11] | sphery: | different room with wires run through/around walls? |
[19:43:24] | gpd: | that is working in one room -but the other is too far away i think |
[19:43:25] | sphery: | no case is as pretty as an invisible frontend |
[19:45:04] | gpd: | also: is there a good solution to the 'media player' for audio that runs alongside mythtv? the built in audio client plugin struggles with large numbers of files |
[19:45:09] | Dagmar: | ...until you stub your toe on the f**ker |
[19:45:31] | gpd: | right now i am using ctrl-alt to a gnome-terminal running mocp! |
[19:45:35] | Dagmar: | gpd: why would there be any other case |
[19:45:58] | Dagmar: | There's MythMusic and that's pretty much it |
[19:46:01] | sphery: | gpd: you mean MythMusic won't play some of your audio files? |
[19:46:12] | Dagmar: | sphery: NO! IMPOSSIBUHLS! |
[19:46:27] | gpd: | no – i mean i have lots of files and it is very difficult to get mythmusic to browse to what i want... |
[19:46:29] | sphery: | if not, you probably need to use EXEC in the menu to bring up a different player... grep for EXECTV for an example |
[19:46:37] | gpd: | i.e. i din't like the interface |
[19:46:57] | sphery: | oh, then, yeah, you'll have to use something else |
[19:46:59] | sphery: | or wait for 0.23 |
[19:47:01] | gpd: | a different player is fine – just wondering what works well in people's experience |
[19:47:22] | gpd: | right now i am struggling with tiny fonts in the other windows |
[19:47:25] | sphery: | I use a script that starts mplayer playing an Internet radio station |
[19:47:30] | gpd: | guess i need to find how to set DPI |
[19:47:44] | sphery: | i.e. non-visual UI because I don't "watch" my music |
[19:48:28] | gpd: | boxee works – but doesn't seem to play well alongside mythtv |
[19:48:48] | gpd: | unless i use a different X11 on :1 or something |
[19:48:56] | Dagmar: | How to set DPI for X11 is in the wiki |
[19:48:58] | Dagmar: | I know it's in the wiki. |
[19:49:15] | sphery: | gpd: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Frequently_Asked_Q . . . rect_this.3F plus the links to DisplaySize and Specifying DPI for NVIDIA Cards inside. |
[19:53:40] | gpd: | hmm. not sure about DPI – my xdpyinfo says 90x88 |
[19:54:18] | Dagmar: | Everything there is to know about DPI is in that wiki |
[19:54:46] | Dagmar: | I know I personally sat down and wrote almost a full typed page about it |
[19:55:11] | Dagmar: | If you can't figure out how to do the math to compute dots per inch with a ruler and the TV in front of you, you need to watch less television. |
[19:55:21] | Dagmar: | Seriouslu. |
[19:55:25] | Dagmar: | s/lu/ly/; |
[19:56:55] | Gav8in: | The size of the typesetting point, now there's something to argue about. |
[19:56:59] | gpd: | not sure if DPI is anything to do with my issue – my fonts are all fine -but i am running 1680x1050 and sitting 10 feet away – so in firefox the menus are all TINY – but the fonts are all as they should be... therefore is this a DPI issue? |
[19:57:17] | gpd: | or can i just tell metacity to use LARGER fonts? |
[19:57:30] | Dagmar: | You will need to tell Metacity to use larger fonts |
[19:57:47] | Dagmar: | Thankfully (and I swear this is a good thing) fonts in X are now handled _correctly_ with respect to size |
[19:57:55] | Dagmar: | Point size is a _real world_ size |
[19:58:04] | wagnerrp: | i cant imagine sitting 10' away from something running 1680x1050 |
[19:58:12] | Dagmar: | So like, a 12-point font will always be so many mm high, no matter what the size of hte screen |
[19:58:25] | Dagmar: | ...which makes 12point fonts on an 18foot projector absolutely hilarious. |
[19:58:47] | Dagmar: | Myth basically uses a fixed value so that themes won't shatter into a million pieces |
[19:59:27] | wagnerrp: | do they actually make anything larger than 22" at that resolution? |
[19:59:45] | ** AndyCap wants a 200dpi laptop. ** | |
[19:59:47] | gpd: | i am missing a cable to use my LCD TV so using an LCD monitor for now... |
[19:59:49] | sphery: | do we even know if that's the input resolution or the display resolution? |
[20:00:19] | Dagmar: | gpd: Honestly, it saves some hassle when you do that |
[20:00:42] | Dagmar: | For one, it generally means you can run the display at it's native res instead of having to output something and have the display mangle it to fit |
[20:02:23] | gpd: | Dagmar: so i should search for metacity font size setting... right? |
[20:02:44] | Dagmar: | If you're using Metacity you have GNOME, right? |
[20:02:44] | wagnerrp: | AndyCap: ive not seen one higher than 150dpi |
[20:02:55] | wagnerrp: | my laptop is around 135dpi |
[20:02:59] | Dagmar: | There's stuff in the gnome config tools to change the font size for Metacity and everything else |
[20:03:27] | Dagmar: | It won't affect MythTV (obviously) but it should make you able to adjust the font size for every Gtk+-driven app on there |
[20:03:39] | gpd: | Dagmar: no sign of gnome – the mythtv auto login doesn't seem to run gnome – just metacity |
[20:03:59] | gpd: | when i run mythtv frontend as a normal user – i get vertical sync issues / slowness |
[20:04:18] | wagnerrp: | most of the desktop monitors ive seen are right around 100dpi |
[20:04:20] | gpd: | but i can use gnome tools probably to set metacity fonts |
[20:04:39] | AndyCap: | whee, got my grubby hands on a pl2303 eeprom tool. :) |
[20:05:10] | Dagmar: | gpd: I've got no idea about doing it without the control panel stuff unless you want to poke around in gconf directly |
[20:05:23] | gpd: | while i do that --- another question: |
[20:05:31] | Dagmar: | I know the stuff GNOME provides is a nice interface for poking numbers into particular places in the gconf registry |
[20:06:21] | gpd: | I have VGA / DVI output from frontend – LONG VGA cable – then TV with Component / HDMI - |
[20:06:50] | gpd: | should I get VGA to component cable – OR VGA to HDMI (or is that not possible) |
[20:06:52] | Dagmar: | You get to spend money, then |
[20:07:18] | Dagmar: | I'd have gone for a video card with HDMI output personally |
[20:07:28] | AndyCap: | gpd: what's wrong with dvi -> hdmi btw? |
[20:07:34] | Dagmar: | ...but whatever you can find cheapest |
[20:07:35] | AndyCap: | apart from no sound. :P |
[20:07:47] | lcase (lcase!n=lcase@p5B0E8D14.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has left #mythtv-users () | |
[20:07:51] | gpd: | nothing worng with that – that is what i had before the server moved 30 feet away... |
[20:08:16] | gpd: | so i could buy at 30 foot DVI -> HDMI cable BUT I already own a 30 Foot VGA cable... |
[20:08:25] | gpd: | so was trying to save money... [fool] |
[20:08:38] | wagnerrp: | you still get worthwhile signal over 30ft? |
[20:08:52] | gregL (gregL!n=greg@67.246.41.80) has quit (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) | |
[20:09:01] | gpd: | 30 foot VGA cable to LCD monitor is great at 1680... |
[20:09:09] | AndyCap: | gpd: well, some people here have more luck with VGA, but if you don't have vga in on the TV you should get a DVI cable of some sort |
[20:09:11] | gpd: | just that i can't plug it into the LCD tv... |
[20:09:31] | gpd: | so VGA to component converter no good? |
[20:09:32] | AndyCap: | sinice vga is RGBHV and not component |
[20:09:48] | wagnerrp: | there is no such thing as a VGA to component 'connector' |
[20:09:58] | wagnerrp: | you have to get a scan converter |
[20:10:05] | gregL (gregL!n=greg@cpe-67-246-41-80.nycap.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[20:10:09] | AndyCap: | gpd: can your card output that on the vga connector? or are you talking about an expensive box that costs more than a new cable |
[20:10:10] | wagnerrp: | or have a device that can use RGB, which means a couple rare projectors |
[20:10:15] | gpd: | wagnerrp: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Premium-Component-Cab . . . p/B000P3NZ68 <-- |
[20:11:00] | gpd: | AndyCap: the card is a standard nVidia with VGA OR DVI |
[20:11:18] | wagnerrp: | that does not output a signal compatible with nearly any component input you will find |
[20:11:25] | AndyCap: | gpd: new cable time |
[20:11:42] | wagnerrp: | component is YPrPb, that cable will output RGB |
[20:11:49] | gpd: | wagnerrp: ok – good news, won't be buying that |
[20:11:51] | wagnerrp: | you will get garbage on screen |
[20:12:39] | Dagmar: | gpd: The simplest and least-expensive thing will be just to order a long HDMI or DVI cable from someone online |
[20:12:46] | Dagmar: | Don't buy it in a store unless you just won the lottery |
[20:13:01] | gpd: | Dagmar: fair enough – thanks |
[20:13:06] | AndyCap: | and are feeling very generous towards the store. |
[20:13:23] | gpd: | http://www.tvcables.co.uk/cgi-bin/tvcables/sh . . . i-cable.html <--- done |
[20:13:27] | Dagmar: | cables4less, places like that, they sell stuff for like a quarter of what BestBuy does |
[20:13:48] | Dagmar: | ...because basically, cables are just wire and are cheap |
[20:14:10] | Gav8in: | well, i was assured at bestbuy that if i used an inferior hdmi cable i'd get bad resolution and colours would look flatt3er |
[20:14:23] | AndyCap: | Gav8in: and become impotent? |
[20:14:27] | gpd: | Dagmar: true – but not that simple as the above VGA -> component story demonstrates — you need to know WTF the signals are ;) |
[20:14:33] | gpd: | which is where i FAIL ;) |
[20:14:39] | Gav8in: | i dunno. the same salesguy shared a rule of thumb about cable costs and stuff. it was pretty weird. |
[20:14:41] | wagnerrp: | at 30', you probably want to buy a pricier, lower gage cable |
[20:14:54] | AndyCap: | Gav8in: oh lord, not that 10% lie? |
[20:15:21] | wagnerrp: | the normal cheap AWG28 stuff is usually only recommended out to 15' |
[20:15:30] | Gav8in: | andy, something like that. |
[20:15:30] | AndyCap: | so lower gauge means lower AWG number right? not thinner cable? |
[20:15:38] | _tux (_tux!n=Miranda@mnch-4d043a46.pool.mediaWays.net) has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) | |
[20:15:44] | wagnerrp: | lower gauge, fatter cable |
[20:15:51] | AndyCap: | Gav8in: aka 100% of our bottom line. :P |
[20:15:51] | GreyFoxx: | lower gauge = thicker cacble |
[20:16:08] | Gav8in: | Go for 00 gauge. |
[20:16:10] | AndyCap: | and fewer shot. :) |
[20:16:10] | trumee (trumee!i=rs4@cpc1-nmkt1-0-0-cust91.cmbg.cable.ntl.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[20:16:30] | gpd: | again – back to the drawing board for the other room where the run would be 100 feet... balls. somebody needs to invent a CHEAP wireless HDMI send/receive system |
[20:16:34] | jams: | feeling better GreyFoxx? |
[20:16:39] | AndyCap: | gpd: there's also bluejeanscable. I think they ship from the uk too now for international order |
[20:16:43] | Gav8in: | or a cheap ATSC modulator |
[20:16:45] | GreyFoxx: | jams: much |
[20:16:49] | Gav8in: | the cheapest i've found was $575 |
[20:16:50] | wagnerrp: | Gav8in: no such thing |
[20:16:52] | jams: | good good |
[20:16:56] | Gav8in: | why on earth do ATSC modulators cost so much? |
[20:16:57] | AndyCap: | gpd: another frontend and gigabit ethernet. :P |
[20:17:06] | GreyFoxx: | I'm now on pills so no more 3 trips to the hospital every dya for an iv :) |
[20:17:10] | wagnerrp: | Gav8in: because there is no market for cheap ones |
[20:17:13] | Gav8in: | wagnerpp: as 00 gauge cable, or a cheap atsc modulator? |
[20:17:22] | Gav8in: | i know 00 gauge exists; i own some |
[20:17:34] | Gav8in: | so i guess the latter |
[20:17:37] | AndyCap: | Gav8in: in hdmi it would be somewhat unwieldly |
[20:17:38] | guysoft422 (guysoft422!n=guysoft@93-172-151-86.bb.netvision.net.il) has quit (Connection reset by peer) | |
[20:17:49] | wagnerrp: | i would love a cheap ATSC modulator |
[20:18:05] | Gav8in: | hdmi to atsc modulator i guess would cost like $600 to put together or so? |
[20:18:18] | GreyFoxx: | Gav8in: Planning to be youyr own TV station ? :) Why would you need a atsc modulator ?:) |
[20:18:43] | Gav8in: | grey: for feeding video to TVs around the house on coax, say |
[20:18:50] | Gav8in: | it's not totally crazy |
[20:18:50] | AndyCap: | Gav8in: can atsc support 1080p mpeg2? |
[20:19:00] | wagnerrp: | Gav8in: just a modulator could be put together for ~$20 |
[20:19:06] | wagnerrp: | AndyCap: yes |
[20:19:06] | Gav8in: | no, so i guess a QAM modulator would make more sense |
[20:19:13] | GreyFoxx: | Yes, QAM |
[20:19:26] | Gav8in: | ui thought atsc was limited to about 19.4mbps? |
[20:19:28] | ** Gav8in shrugs ** | |
[20:19:43] | GreyFoxx: | And even then It is crazy. Just place myth boxes around the house, |
[20:19:45] | GreyFoxx: | :) |
[20:20:03] | AndyCap: | 30 fps 1080p according to wikipedia. |
[20:20:23] | sphery: | and 24fps |
[20:20:24] | wagnerrp: | GreyFoxx: im talking about a motor home with an existing coax matrix switchbox/modulator |
[20:20:39] | sphery: | http://www.hdtvprimer.com/ISSUES/what_is_ATSC.html |
[20:21:04] | wagnerrp: | i would love to be able to run hddvd/bluray over that (never gonna happen) |
[20:21:08] | wagnerrp: | or at least plug a mythbox into it |
[20:21:12] | sphery: | but people all say that blu-ray is the only way you could possibly be able to get 1080p... |
[20:21:23] | sphery: | only difference is blu-ray allows 1080p60 |
[20:21:36] | sphery: | but is there /any/ 1080p60 content in existence on blu-ray? |
[20:21:43] | Gav8in: | So an HDFury at $199 + a ZeeVee at $399 will, for $600, let you send HDMI out as QAM. Weird. |
[20:21:54] | wagnerrp: | ZeeVee? |
[20:22:04] | sphery: | (granted, that doesn't mean stations actually encode to 1080p30 or 1080p24 before broadcast, but...) |
[20:22:15] | Gav8in: | http://www.amazon.com/ZeeVee-ZV100-NA-ZvBox/d . . . 0&sr=8-1 |
[20:22:16] | Gav8in: | Zeevee |
[20:22:35] | Dibblah (Dibblah!n=Dibblah@94-168-160-13.cable.ubr11.dund.blueyonder.co.uk) has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) | |
[20:22:49] | wagnerrp: | video-in... QAM out? |
[20:22:52] | AndyCap: | Why Send HD Over Coax? Because it's there. |
[20:22:58] | AndyCap: | yeah. I can see that. |
[20:23:00] | Gav8in: | that's what it does |
[20:23:02] | Dibblah (Dibblah!n=Dibblah@94-168-160-13.cable.ubr11.dund.blueyonder.co.uk) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[20:23:02] | Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +v Dibblah | |
[20:23:28] | AndyCap: | people in various forum complaining about the future-unproofness of hdmi. :) |
[20:23:31] | Gav8in: | it's $$$ |
[20:23:44] | wagnerrp: | well then... the price for my the mythtv box for my parent's motorhome just jumped up over $1K |
[20:23:48] | sphery: | better question, why didn't the DVI/HDMI designers user coax, like they were supposed to |
[20:23:56] | Dagmar: | AndyCap: Gosh... whatever happened to all those promises of HDMI being upgradable through software updates? |
[20:23:57] | AndyCap: | sphery: becuase they were idiots |
[20:23:58] | sphery: | (and, no, I don't mean RG-59 or RG-6) |
[20:24:07] | sphery: | agreed |
[20:24:12] | sphery: | cheaped out |
[20:24:22] | Gav8in: | wag: you're getting one? |
[20:24:30] | Dagmar: | Oh wait... NO ONE ever bothered to ship any |
[20:24:35] | stoth (stoth!n=stoth@ool-18bfe0d5.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[20:24:40] | AndyCap: | then again. from what I saw you could send audio over SDI so that would be nice. |
[20:24:44] | M-M (M-M!n=user@70.54.221.202) has quit (Client Quit) | |
[20:24:58] | wagnerrp: | my mom is opposed to the whole idea, no way im going to push them on that |
[20:25:01] | Dagmar: | Sony had the one unit that does HDMI 1.3 and one stereo that went with it and no one else felt it necessary to even upgrade their already-sold units to that even |
[20:26:22] | GlemSom (GlemSom!n=glemsom@0x5da34bca.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1105.sdnqu1.customer.tele.dk) has quit ("Leaving") | |
[20:26:25] | Gav8in: | If I understand the HDFury, it's illegal to use if you dont use those little screws on the side. |
[20:26:39] | AndyCap: | O_o |
[20:26:43] | Gav8in: | so remember folks, screw in those little screws on the side! |
[20:26:44] | Dibblah: | Uhm... HDMI does use coax. |
[20:26:59] | Dibblah: | It's twisted pairs, inside a sheath. |
[20:27:02] | wagnerrp: | Gav8in: eh? |
[20:27:16] | sphery: | twisted pairs aren't coax |
[20:27:18] | Gav8in: | wagnerrp: they havea funny FAQ... |
[20:27:45] | Shadow__X: | that box is intriguing esp because you can have mythtv in your whole house quickly |
[20:28:06] | Dibblah: | I don't quite understand the complaint. |
[20:28:16] | Gav8in: | well, why on earth doesn't someone make a USB2 QAM thing? Why bother doing encoding in hw |
[20:28:23] | Dibblah: | coax really doesn't work for the type of signal in HDMI. |
[20:28:43] | Gav8in: | "- HDfury can screw directly to your display therefore (unlike the stripper/converter boxes) it remains compliant to the HDCP rules as it does not allow and end-user easy access to the analog decrypted signal. " <-- they actually say that. |
[20:28:55] | wagnerrp: | Gav8in: several years ago, some crackpot put together a DVB-T modulator using the VGA pins on an old video card |
[20:29:48] | AndyCap: | Dibblah: http://www.audioholics.com/education/cables/w . . . er-with-hdmi |
[20:29:54] | Dibblah: | There are hdfury clones. |
[20:30:25] | the_alien (the_alien!n=till@dslb-084-060-045-225.pools.arcor-ip.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[20:30:42] | Dibblah: | DVI is easy to terminate. |
[20:31:03] | AndyCap: | compared to hd-sdi? no. |
[20:31:27] | Dibblah: | Oh, goodness. The author does not understand broadband / baseband. |
[20:32:31] | Dibblah: | You can't do digital signals over any distance using coax. |
[20:32:32] | janneg: | wagnerrp: s/crackpot/Fabrice Bellard/ |
[20:32:58] | Dibblah: | You use balanced pairs for quite complex and difficult to explain reasons. |
[20:34:22] | Dibblah: | "that doesn't stop, doesn't error-check" – rubbish. |
[20:35:07] | Dibblah: | I'm stopping reading this. The author is a classic "audiophile". |
[20:36:11] | Gav8in: | http://www.pearcable.com/sub_products_anjou_sc.htm |
[20:36:44] | sphery: | Dibblah: another one at: http://forum.ecoustics.com/bbs/messages/34579/122868.html |
[20:36:57] | Gav8in: | http://www.usa.denon.com/ProductDetails/3429.asp |
[20:37:20] | sphery: | might be wrong, but it seemed reasonable (and fits my experience) |
[20:37:36] | Dibblah: | "First, there is no reason why any perceptible degradation of an analog component video signal should occur even over rather substantial distances"... Bull. |
[20:37:54] | c0p3rn1c (c0p3rn1c!n=jeroen@222.22-200-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) has quit ("Ex-Chat") | |
[20:37:58] | Dibblah: | Anything over 10m and you're toast with hi-def analogue. |
[20:38:10] | Dibblah: | Capacitive smearing kills you. |
[20:39:22] | Dibblah: | The same rules apply to digital cables as they do to analogue ones. |
[20:39:27] | Dagmar: | "Many thanks to Bluejeans Cable for providing this article for our site." |
[20:39:34] | Dagmar: | That explains so much |
[20:40:02] | Dibblah: | ... Don't buy the cheapest ones, they will suck. Don't buy the expensive ones, unless you have a severe personality disorder and too much cash. |
[20:43:25] | Tomasu (Tomasu!n=moose@S010600195b863efb.ed.shawcable.net) has quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
[20:44:38] | gbee: | the $500 Denon is an old classic, 1.5m Cat 5e ... license to print money |
[20:45:51] | lcase (lcase!n=lcase@p5B0E8D14.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[20:46:09] | Gav8in: | yeah, but I can never resist those two links whenever discussing quality cables or audiophiles. |
[20:46:14] | lcase (lcase!n=lcase@p5B0E8D14.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has quit (Client Quit) | |
[20:46:38] | Gav8in: | hey, should i expect ATSC to work on a boat? |
[20:47:00] | kormoc: | I'm on a BOAT!\ |
[20:47:11] | Gav8in: | awesome. is ATSC working? |
[20:47:11] | Gav8in: | heh |
[20:47:24] | j-rod: | kormoc: haha, awesome music vid |
[20:47:24] | AndyCap: | wouldn't that depend on how far from land you are? |
[20:47:36] | Gav8in: | oh, right, the SNL skit |
[20:47:49] | sphery: | and whether you're moving |
[20:47:51] | Gav8in: | andycap, well, sure. |
[20:47:59] | Gav8in: | well, here's the thing about the moving: you kinda always are. |
[20:48:24] | sphery: | AIUI, ATSC doesn't generally work for moving receivers |
[20:48:30] | AndyCap: | Gav8in: gyrostabilized platform. :) |
[20:48:34] | Gav8in: | i don't use docks much, mostly anchor and moorings, and so the boat's always tacking on the anchor (turning 60 degrees each way repeatedly) and wave action etc... |
[20:48:46] | gbee: | Dibblah: at least for HDMI all cables carrying the HDMI logo are rated to the same standards, so $1 or $100, it's still guaranteed to have an error rate less than 1 bit in 1 billion which is humanly imperceptible |
[20:49:18] | Tomasu (Tomasu!n=moose@S010600195b863efb.ed.shawcable.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[20:49:26] | AndyCap: | gbee: unless they're lying weasels who just learned how to print a HMDI logo and RoHS sticker. |
[20:49:30] | sphery: | wonder what range, etc. for that test |
[20:49:55] | sphery: | or if they have to verify each length of cable they make |
[20:50:58] | gbee: | AndyCap: sure, but if you are going to assume that's the case, who is to say it's even a HDMI cable and not a wet piece of string with two clothes pegs at either end? :) |
[20:51:33] | AndyCap: | gbee: well, some of the cables have to work at least to get them in the stores. :) |
[20:51:42] | sphery: | those are annoying when they keep drying out in your air-conditioned home and you have to rewet the cables mid movie |
[20:53:11] | ** AndyCap notices that the HMDI scam seems to work well. ** | |
[20:53:22] | Gav8in: | make sure to use electrolyte when you wet them. i do that the old fashioned way, with my ready supply of electrolyte enriched water... |
[20:53:39] | gbee: | I think firefox just crashed on me, turned my back for 1 minute ... |
[20:53:47] | sphery: | Gav8in: It's what plants crave! |
[20:54:06] | laga: | sphery: first movie i ever saw in hd. awesome |
[20:54:12] | sphery: | great show |
[20:56:33] | tank-man (tank-man!i=1000@174.6.38.217) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[20:57:53] | i_is_cat (i_is_cat!n=i_is_cat@S010600179a22e379.ed.shawcable.net) has quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
[20:57:56] | dustybin (dustybin!n=dustybin@unaffiliated/dustybin) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[21:00:23] | ** j-rod just got a spare lappy to hack on... and its better than my own. damn. ** | |
[21:00:33] | gbee: | I might just have to see if we can add last.fm support to mythmusic, I've been visiting the site for a while now as a way to sample tracks in full before buying (elsewhere) but today I decided to give the radio feature a try ... already discovered three new bands |
[21:01:16] | sphery: | just got to make sure that we keep anyone from adding recording support |
[21:01:18] | kormoc: | gbee: last.fm is nice, thesixtyone.com is also quite nice for really new bands |
[21:02:07] | sphery: | Woah!!! |
[21:02:38] | AndyCap: | no recording support in a recording app? Teh irony |
[21:02:56] | sphery: | last.fm finally updated their ToS after I sent them an e-mail about how it was completely wrong: http://www.last.fm/legal/terms#para3 was missing the "do not" in item iv. |
[21:03:23] | sphery: | They were prviously requiring that all users "copy or seek to copy or "rip" any audio and/or audiovisual content from the Website or any part of the Service (including, without limitation, the Last.fm widget);" |
[21:03:45] | Gav8in: | wow, that's awesome that they're require that |
[21:03:46] | Gav8in: | very liberal |
[21:03:51] | gbee: | I was getting into a rut and struggling to find something I wanted to spend my emusic credits on – their tailored recommendations have been getting steadily more depressing and I need something more upbeat on these wet summer days |
[21:04:14] | sphery: | Glad they updated it--now I can quote it on mythtv-users list without starting the "Well, it seems to me that we /have/ to steal it, so I'm just following the rules," discussion that would inevitably follow |
[21:05:59] | Gav8in: | heh |
[21:08:00] | trumee (trumee!i=rs4@cpc1-nmkt1-0-0-cust91.cmbg.cable.ntl.com) has quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
[21:08:20] | FR^2 (FR^2!n=frquadra@frquadrat.de) has quit ("Der Worte sind genug gewechselt, lasst mich auch endlich Taten sehn!") | |
[21:08:43] | AndyCap: | on a related note. does mythtv support CGMS-A? |
[21:10:47] | tfoyd (tfoyd!n=tfoyd@d75-158-99-152.abhsia.telus.net) has quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
[21:12:21] | jarjar (jarjar!n=jarjar@ANantes-256-1-90-168.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) has quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
[21:16:14] | cdpuk (cdpuk!n=chris@cdpuk.cdp.me.uk) has quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
[21:17:36] | messerting (messerting!n=messerti@cm-84.208.182.112.getinternet.no) has quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
[21:20:35] | gizmobay (gizmobay!n=gizmobay@VDSL-130-13-9-12.PHNX.QWEST.NET) has quit ("Leaving") | |
[21:23:02] | dustybin: | i have been trying to setup asterisk for the last few hours, and have only just realised what the problem is |
[21:23:16] | dustybin: | mythfrontend was holding up port 5060!!!!!!!!! |
[21:23:31] | dustybin: | arghghghghghghghg |
[21:23:47] | sphery: | iamlindoro: Had to do some testing in mythfrontend, so I switched to Graphite, today. It's nice, but I think my Planet Earth episodes aren't as good as yours. http://misc.thirdcontact.com/Planet_Earth_in_Graphite.png |
[21:23:55] | dustybin: | why the hell is mythfrontend using port 5070 |
[21:24:00] | dustybin: | *5060 |
[21:24:30] | sphery: | liveMedia |
[21:24:54] | sphery: | http://www.live555.com/liveMedia/ |
[21:25:44] | iamlindoro: | sphery, you're right, and your subtitles are all wrong (yes, yes, I know, different PE) |
[21:25:51] | sphery: | heh |
[21:26:08] | sphery: | I get the "Poor-man's Planet Earth" |
[21:26:48] | gbee: | heh, confused me for a moment |
[21:27:23] | gbee: | I've only got three eps, need to wait for them to come around again on BBC HD |
[21:28:26] | AndyCap: | dustybin: because you installed the plugin for it. |
[21:28:33] | dustybin: | ohh |
[21:28:38] | dustybin: | not mythphone? |
[21:28:40] | dustybin: | eeeek |
[21:28:44] | AndyCap: | well, duh. |
[21:28:51] | dustybin: | double eek |
[21:29:34] | sphery: | gbee: yeah, this one is a 1980's production (made for schools?) that was aired by my local community-college's channel |
[21:29:36] | kormoc: | dustybin: language... |
[21:29:48] | dustybin: | 'eek' is not a swear word? |
[21:30:17] | AndyCap: | kormoc: this is why should punish the dog immediatly. |
[21:30:28] | dustybin: | :( |
[21:31:21] | dustybin: | if you guys think mythtv is complicated, try and get your head around asterisk.. |
[21:33:00] | AndyCap: | (^*^) no problem. |
[21:33:24] | AndyCap: | (^MythTV^) now this hurts a bit. |
[21:33:49] | AndyCap: | (^Windows XP media center Edition^) this I can't do |
[21:34:32] | heyheyhey (heyheyhey!n=heyheyhe@c-68-81-148-97.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) | |
[21:34:34] | dserban (dserban!n=dserban@S010600195b2f0f96.ok.shawcable.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[21:35:32] | sphery: | Anyone on trunk tried editing a recording and hitting PgUp/PgDown when in edit mode? |
[21:35:45] | dashcloud (dashcloud!n=quassel@pool-96-245-191-112.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[21:36:01] | lyricnz (lyricnz!n=simonrob@ppp118-208-219-101.lns10.mel6.internode.on.net) has quit () | |
[21:36:05] | heyheyhey (heyheyhey!n=heyheyhe@c-68-81-148-97.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[21:38:52] | nighthawk_ (nighthawk_!n=nighthaw@c-24-128-157-168.hsd1.nh.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[21:41:34] | gunni_ (gunni_!n=quassel@xdsl-84-44-128-147.netcologne.de) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[21:44:08] | jgarvey (jgarvey!n=jgarvey@cpe-098-026-065-013.nc.res.rr.com) has quit ("Leaving") | |
[21:44:53] | wagnerrp: | janneg: in order to figure out how to broadcast DVB using the DAC on a graphics card, you are a genius hacker and completely nuts |
[21:45:01] | wagnerrp: | aka.... crackpot |
[21:46:52] | Gav8in: | lots and lots of "Waited too long for video out to pause" . Bad? Good? |
[21:46:53] | Gav8in: | hrm. |
[21:47:19] | CoreDump is now known as CoreDump|home | |
[21:48:20] | Gav8in: | roughly every 1.5 seconds |
[21:49:34] | grokky (grokky!n=grokky@ppp121-44-214-193.lns10.mel4.internode.on.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[21:49:59] | grokky (grokky!n=grokky@ppp121-44-214-193.lns10.mel4.internode.on.net) has quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
[21:57:23] | gunni (gunni!n=quassel@xdsl-84-44-132-37.netcologne.de) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
[21:59:39] | mindoms (mindoms!n=stefan@93-82-87-37.adsl.highway.telekom.at) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[22:00:58] | olesalscheider (olesalscheider!n=desktop@xdsl-87-79-191-51.netcologne.de) has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) | |
[22:10:17] | Slim-Kimbo (Slim-Kimbo!n=Kimbo@host86-168-176-99.range86-168.btcentralplus.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[22:23:07] | RyeBrye (RyeBrye!n=ryebrye@170.249.sfcn.org) has quit () | |
[22:23:44] | RyeBrye (RyeBrye!n=ryebrye@170.249.sfcn.org) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[22:30:39] | kormoc: | iamlindoro, RDV_Linux, does -MW also assume -M or do I need to cron both? |
[22:32:50] | andreax (andreax!n=andreaz@p57B94F59.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[22:34:07] | iamlindoro: | kormoc, Ionly cron the -MW |
[22:34:09] | iamlindoro: | er I only |
[22:37:04] | iamlindoro: | Which I realize doesn't answer your question :) |
[22:37:07] | Tomasu (Tomasu!n=moose@S010600195b863efb.ed.shawcable.net) has quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
[22:37:24] | iamlindoro: | but I only use Jamu for recording artwork download, so I don't actaully know what -M would do |
[22:37:49] | wagnerrp: | looking to add metadata download back to mythweb? |
[22:38:17] | mindoms1 (mindoms1!n=stefan@212-183-50-150.adsl.highway.telekom.at) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[22:41:17] | nighthawk_: | anyone know of a script that will retrieve missing s#e# for files that only have the title in the name? |
[22:43:23] | inordkuo (inordkuo!n=inorkuo@97.66.21.169) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
[22:45:33] | inordkuo (inordkuo!n=inorkuo@adsl-226-139-159.int.bellsouth.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[22:47:01] | gbee: | title, or subtitle aka episode name? |
[22:47:27] | ccfreak2k (ccfreak2k!i=ccfreak2@li26-205.members.linode.com) has quit (Client Quit) | |
[22:47:40] | gbee: | mythvideo in 0.22 will do a subtitle search, though whether that works if you only have the subtitle ... |
[22:47:53] | ccfreak2k (ccfreak2k!i=ccfreak2@li26-205.members.linode.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[22:48:14] | nighthawk_: | yeah, episode name... I want to bulk renames.. RDV put me in the right direction to write it |
[22:48:29] | nighthawk_: | but if you happen to know of an already existing bulk rename script that handles this, would save some time :) |
[22:48:34] | inordkuo (inordkuo!n=inorkuo@adsl-226-139-159.int.bellsouth.net) has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) | |
[22:48:35] | PointyPumper (PointyPumper!i=Pintlezz@190.244.73.136) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[22:48:50] | gbee: | not rename, no |
[22:49:17] | leprechau (leprechau!n=leprecha@temp4.wavelinx.net) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
[22:49:50] | ccfreak2k (ccfreak2k!i=ccfreak2@li26-205.members.linode.com) has quit (SendQ exceeded) | |
[22:49:59] | gbee: | thought you meant import :) |
[22:50:25] | gbee: | / metadata retrieval |
[22:50:29] | ccfreak2k (ccfreak2k!i=ccfreak2@li26-205.members.linode.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[22:50:38] | nighthawk_: | well, this is step 1 |
[22:50:51] | nighthawk_: | bulk rename the files, so jamu will handle the rest of auto importing |
[22:51:45] | ccfreak2k (ccfreak2k!i=ccfreak2@li26-205.members.linode.com) has quit (SendQ exceeded) | |
[22:52:26] | ccfreak2k (ccfreak2k!i=ccfreak2@li26-205.members.linode.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[22:53:53] | mindoms (mindoms!n=stefan@93-82-87-37.adsl.highway.telekom.at) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
[22:53:58] | hadees (hadees!n=hadees@rrcs-97-77-45-90.sw.biz.rr.com) has quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
[22:54:04] | kormoc: | the next two weeks are 98% full of scheduled recordings, woo |
[22:56:22] | RDV_Linux: | kormoc: You need the -M option with -MW. The -M option designates MythTV related functionality the additional (-F, -W, -I, -G) is used to identify the specific function you want acting upon the MythTV databases. |
[22:56:45] | Pumpernick (Pumpernick!i=Pintlezz@190.244.73.136) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
[22:57:16] | kormoc: | RDV_Linux: okay, so is there a -A (all) or similar? |
[22:58:22] | RDV_Linux: | kormoc: No as some of the functionality is either redundant or exclusive. What do you want to do? I will tell you what options to use. |
[22:58:57] | kormoc: | RDV_Linux: well, basically, I was hoping for one cron line that will update the mythvideo stuff and the recorded tv stuff |
[23:02:13] | RDV_Linux: | kormoc: Right now you would need two cron jobs (-M and -MW). It was set up that way as those jobs are usually run at different frequency. I run -M (maintenance) every second day and -MW everyday. The data on TVDB and TMDB do not change frequently enough to justify a maintenance run every night. |
[23:04:27] | kormoc: | fair 'nuff |
[23:04:30] | RDV_Linux: | kormoc: It may be possible to have two jobs on one cron command line or at least I think you can. |
[23:04:41] | kormoc: | yeah, with && |
[23:05:01] | RDV_Linux: | kormoc: See you have it all:) |
[23:05:38] | kormoc: | Heh, more was just making sure I didn't miss anything :) |
[23:05:58] | RDV_Linux: | np |
[23:07:34] | kormoc: | iamlindoro: ooh, perhaps you'd know. The HDPVR's top chunk, where the blingly light comes from, that's not a air intake is it? |
[23:07:51] | iamlindoro: | kormoc, pretty sure the air intakes are on the bottom |
[23:07:55] | kormoc: | slick |
[23:08:15] | kormoc: | I covered it in some foil and it got extremely hot, wanted to make sure I wasn't blocking soemthing |
[23:08:30] | stoth (stoth!n=stoth@ool-18bfe0d5.dyn.optonline.net) has quit ("Leaving") | |
[23:08:42] | ** iamlindoro wonders why kormoc is making clothes for his HD-PVR ;) ** | |
[23:09:01] | kormoc: | Hehe, it keeps the birds up at night :) |
[23:09:01] | iamlindoro: | is it so the government can't monitor what you watch? |
[23:09:01] | RDV_Linux: | kormoc: I black electrical taped my HDPVR bling lights off. If you are careful it does not show at all. |
[23:09:10] | kormoc: | ooh, good thought |
[23:09:38] | iamlindoro: | I let my bling lights shine like the sun |
[23:09:42] | RDV_Linux: | kormoc: Just over a year now and no problems |
[23:09:46] | iamlindoro: | in the closet that they live in |
[23:09:52] | kormoc: | snazzy |
[23:10:15] | kormoc: | I used the foil when around 3 am, they decided to make a point about not being able to sleep |
[23:10:31] | iamlindoro: | making up for lost time recording? |
[23:10:33] | RDV_Linux: | kormoc: I even did all but the record light on the front as well. |
[23:10:50] | kormoc: | iamlindoro: for sure |
[23:11:13] | iamlindoro: | I'm just now catching up on two seasons of True Blood |
[23:11:35] | iamlindoro: | I'm torn between the copsiou nudity of Anna Paquin versus the tooth gap of Anna Paquin |
[23:11:39] | iamlindoro: | er copious |
[23:11:56] | kormoc: | in 20 days, my drive will be full of tv again, woo! |
[23:12:04] | \malex\: | is there a longer list of mythtv somewhat-dedicated frontend hardware than the choosing frontend hardware list on the mythtv wiki? is there anything besides appletv and mediamvp? |
[23:12:10] | iamlindoro: | better get watching then! |
[23:12:37] | kormoc: | \malex\: there's the mac mini! ;) |
[23:12:58] | \malex\: | kormoc: well, besides the normal computers too :) |
[23:12:58] | kormoc: | iamlindoro: heh, my bro and his wife are out for the next 3 weeks, it'll be stacked up before I get too much time |
[23:14:10] | kormoc: | could be time to get a imac for the bedroom's FE... |
[23:15:52] | \malex\: | imacs don't have wallmount options |
[23:16:34] | kormoc: | nor does my bedroom wall |
[23:17:56] | \malex\: | well, that's compatible then |
[23:20:18] | superdump (superdump!n=rob@unaffiliated/superdump) has quit ("Leaving") | |
[23:24:23] | greudin (greudin!n=eugenio@host197-196-dynamic.49-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) has quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
[23:27:39] | grokky (grokky!n=grokky@excalibur.csse.unimelb.edu.au) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[23:28:08] | ekristen (ekristen!n=ekristen@pool-173-79-94-195.washdc.fios.verizon.net) has quit () | |
[23:29:04] | sphery (sphery!n=mdean@user-0c6sj46.cable.mindspring.com) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
[23:33:20] | nighthawk_: | I suck at regex, whats the string to modify s##x## to s##e## and keep the numbers intact? |
[23:34:49] | paperclip (paperclip!n=papercli@ip72-204-175-205.no.no.cox.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[23:34:53] | CoreDump|home: | sed "s/x/e" ? |
[23:35:09] | nighthawk_: | that would replace any x with the e though |
[23:35:28] | nighthawk_: | I only want it if it is within a episode tag |
[23:35:33] | CoreDump|home: | ah |
[23:35:37] | kormoc: | depends on the regex lib you are using and the frontend to that lib |
[23:35:50] | nighthawk_: | perl |
[23:35:50] | kormoc: | (posix, eposix, perl) (sed, perl, etc) |
[23:35:51] | gbee: | s/\d(x)\d/\1/ |
[23:36:33] | gbee: | err that's completely wrong |
[23:36:41] | gbee: | _completely_ |
[23:37:20] | gbee: | s/(\d))x(\d+)/\1e\2/ would be closer |
[23:37:30] | nighthawk_: | yeah... I can get it to match, but the replacement value |
[23:37:32] | gbee: | without the mis-matching brackets |
[23:37:37] | paperclip: | hello.. newb here.. is there any advantage to mythbuntu over installing ubuntu server then using packages from the avenard.com repo? |
[23:38:03] | gbee: | guess I'm just too tired ;) |
[23:38:07] | wagnerrp: | you have a bunch of people checking for stability, instead of one guy |
[23:38:20] | paperclip: | wagnerrp: that's for me? |
[23:38:27] | wagnerrp: | uh huh |
[23:38:32] | nighthawk_: | awesome gbee, that does it :) |
[23:38:44] | nighthawk_: | now I need to re-read the regex docs to understand why |
[23:38:52] | paperclip: | being bootable is the only thing I can think would be all that great.. mostly for testing at this point.. |
[23:38:59] | gbee: | paperclip: yes, install mythbuntu – comes with a whole bunch of configuration done for you and tools to simplify setup |
[23:39:02] | wagnerrp: | and i imagine jya is about done with maintenance on his repo, considering the imminence of 0.22 |
[23:39:50] | paperclip: | gbee: alrighty.. does mythbuntu support installing to usb thumb drives? wanna start there and move to HD later.. |
[23:40:19] | wagnerrp: | if it shows up as a hard drive on boot, i dont see how it wouldnt |
[23:40:51] | wagnerrp: | aside from maybe needing a special boot loader |
[23:41:20] | gbee: | nighthawk_: \d matches digit characters 0–9, + means match one or more, the brackets () mean assign this portion of the match to a variable which are named from 1, \1 & \2 are those variables which in this case are given the season and episode numbers respectively |
[23:41:21] | paperclip: | well.. I mean similarly to the way ubuntu can install itself to a thumb drive with a partition for persistent storage |
[23:41:24] | wagnerrp: | anyway... if youre worried about it, ubuntu+mythtv is identical to mythbuntu, plus a bit of unneeded programs |
[23:41:44] | paperclip: | ok.. |
[23:42:39] | kormoc: | although, keep in mind, the lack of a hard drive makes myth fairly worthless |
[23:42:55] | wagnerrp: | heh... didnt even think about that one |
[23:43:23] | wagnerrp: | then again, i still dont have boot drives on most of my myth machines (including one BE) |
[23:43:32] | paperclip: | I'm only trying to get the hardware straight.. and make sure my tuner works fine.. |
[23:43:44] | wagnerrp: | what is the tuner? |
[23:43:47] | paperclip: | eventually going to make my HTPC a front end.. |
[23:43:48] | kormoc: | you won't be able to even test the tuner in myth without a hard drive |
[23:43:52] | paperclip: | hdhomerun |
[23:43:58] | wagnerrp: | they it works fine |
[23:44:02] | wagnerrp: | then |
[23:44:03] | paperclip: | ahh... ringbuffer is on the HD? |
[23:44:07] | kormoc: | yes |
[23:44:11] | wagnerrp: | sorta |
[23:44:15] | paperclip: | hmm.. |
[23:44:21] | wagnerrp: | there is no more ringbuffer |
[23:44:25] | wagnerrp: | livetv is a recording |
[23:44:34] | kormoc: | wagnerrp: there's the HD ringbuffer... it's not dead (yet) sadly |
[23:44:40] | paperclip: | i thought folks were booting from mythbuntu cds |
[23:44:42] | kormoc: | unless I'm out of date? |
[23:44:42] | wagnerrp: | the whole show, start to finish, goes to the hard drive |
[23:44:43] | wagnerrp: | oh? |
[23:44:51] | paperclip: | and had diskless frontends |
[23:45:05] | kormoc: | paperclip: aye, but they have a disk-full backend to go with the disk-less frontend |
[23:45:08] | wagnerrp: | that certainly seems wasteful |
[23:45:10] | gbee: | paperclip: diskless frontends, not diskless backends |
[23:45:12] | kormoc: | wagnerrp: least, the setting's still there |
[23:45:29] | wagnerrp: | if youre going to have a CD drive and a disk... why not just buy a cheap hard drive |
[23:45:33] | paperclip: | well.. hmm.. guess i'll upgrade the server then.. |
[23:45:35] | wagnerrp: | or a CF card and adapter |
[23:45:39] | wagnerrp: | or USB stick |
[23:45:41] | wagnerrp: | or netboot |
[23:45:50] | paperclip: | any of those is fine.. |
[23:46:02] | kormoc: | or a pile of 2 tb western digital blacks in a 2u 24 drive monster |
[23:46:15] | paperclip: | once i stick these four 1.5tb drives in my server i'll have 4 spare 80gb drives |
[23:46:26] | wagnerrp: | using a drive and a CD just seems like the absolute worst idea for running a machine for any length of time |
[23:46:30] | paperclip: | just need to back up most of the 80gb somewhere |
[23:46:31] | wagnerrp: | kormoc: 2U 24 drives? |
[23:46:40] | kormoc: | wagnerrp: yeah |
[23:46:41] | wagnerrp: | pics or GTFO... |
[23:46:48] | kormoc: | one sec |
[23:46:57] | wagnerrp: | maybe a name? i can search |
[23:46:57] | paperclip: | did you see the 67tb 4u box on engadget today? |
[23:47:01] | kormoc: | wagnerrp: http://www.siliconmechanics.com/i23695/storage-server.php |
[23:47:22] | wagnerrp: | ah... lies |
[23:47:26] | leprechau (leprechau!n=leprecha@temp4.wavelinx.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
[23:47:26] | wagnerrp: | those are 2.5" drives |
[23:47:59] | kormoc: | hrm |
[23:48:01] | kormoc: | never noticed that |
[23:48:31] | kormoc: | there goes my lottery purchase |
[23:48:38] | wagnerrp: | heh |
[23:49:10] | wagnerrp: | anyway paperclip, you can get 96TB into a 4U |
[23:49:34] | paperclip: | oh |
[23:49:55] | paperclip: | these guys used 27 1.5tb drives |
[23:50:13] | kormoc: | that's not 67 tb |
[23:50:14] | wagnerrp: | the Sun 'thumper' vacuum cleaners store four rows of twelve wide hard drives, vertically, in a 4U chassis |
[23:50:28] | wagnerrp: | along with a dual processor opteron server |
[23:50:30] | kormoc: | paperclip: that's only 40.5 tb |
[23:50:41] | paperclip: | hmm |
[23:50:53] | paperclip: | lemme find the article |
[23:51:22] | kormoc: | to get 67 tb from 27 drives, you're stuck with 2.48t per drive |
[23:51:42] | paperclip: | http://www.boingboing.net/2009/09/01/open-design-for-a-67.html |
[23:51:56] | paperclip: | they have 9 backplanes.. |
[23:52:03] | paperclip: | i was thinking 3 drives per.. |
[23:52:07] | wagnerrp: | yeah, that looks like a ripoff of the thumper systems |
[23:52:31] | paperclip: | there are 5 |
[23:52:57] | kormoc: | 45 drives |
[23:53:31] | wagnerrp: | http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/001233.html |
[23:53:56] | paperclip: | kormoc: yes.. that's 9x5 :P |
[23:54:11] | paperclip: | mythbuntu torrent is pretty healthy.. |
[23:54:34] | wagnerrp: | the Sun ones im referring to are 4x12 |
[23:55:41] | kormoc: | hrm |
[23:55:47] | kormoc: | the sun has a free 60 day demo |
[23:55:58] | paperclip: | either way.. I was marveling at the thought of having 4.5tb available in my raid |
[23:56:03] | ** kormoc ponders what he could do with 96 tb for 60 days ** | |
[23:56:27] | wagnerrp: | the image on that page looks more like 15x3 |
[23:56:55] | Dagmar: | kormoc: Download about a third of the porn uploaded to Usenet |
[23:57:14] | wagnerrp: | i guess those are bare drives in that case? |
[23:57:21] | gbee: | wagnerrp: if you squint? |
[23:57:31] | wagnerrp: | thats how they get the extra 3 as compared to the X4500s |
[23:57:38] | wagnerrp: | gbee: i counted off the stickers |
[23:58:14] | paperclip: | so.. what does a diskless myth frontend do about live tv? |
[23:58:30] | wagnerrp: | same thing a frontend with a disk does |
[23:58:34] | wagnerrp: | try to take over the world |
[23:58:38] | paperclip: | word |
[23:58:50] | paperclip: | ok.. how does this sound.. |
[23:59:18] | kormoc: | paperclip: all frontends stream the tv from the backend, live or recorded |
[23:59:22] | wagnerrp: | seriously... all the data gets pulled over the transfer socket from the backend |
[23:59:22] | paperclip: | mythbuntu backend running in a headless virtualbox on my server... |
[23:59:32] | wagnerrp: | not going to work |
[23:59:40] | paperclip: | why not? |
[23:59:43] | wagnerrp: | too much overhead, and no hardware acceleration |
IRC Logs collected by
BeirdoBot.
Please use the above link to report any bugs.