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| [00:00:08] | [James]: | juski: the video-ui.xml doesnt show the change. How can I make it editable for gedit? |
| [00:01:00] | iamlindoro: | Why didn't you just do what he told you to? |
| [00:01:06] | iamlindoro: | sudo nano /path/to/the/file |
| [00:01:19] | iamlindoro: | you have a .save because you started making things up on your own |
| [00:01:20] | [James]: | I did |
| [00:01:33] | [James]: | no I didnt make things up on my own |
| [00:01:33] | ** iamlindoro sighs ** | |
| [00:01:37] | iamlindoro: | nano doesn't leave .save files |
| [00:01:47] | [James]: | well Ill run it again |
| [00:02:43] | juski: | I said use sudo nano because vi is too much for a noob & it's not technically safe to run GUI apps under sudo, I read in some ubuntu doc today |
| [00:03:00] | juski: | s/safe/a good idea |
| [00:05:19] | android6011: | i have a tv wonder ve, and there is no sound, i have the audio out goign to the mic, and the only way for sound is if i go into alsamixer and up the mic sound, but then its out of sync since I guess myth isnt grabbing audio from port, what do i do |
| [00:05:45] | juski: | into the mic? use LINE or CD input |
| [00:05:54] | android6011: | juski: tried that to |
| [00:05:57] | juski: | mic inputs are way too sensitive |
| [00:06:11] | juski: | and READ THE DOCS. They tell you how to set up the audio for that |
| [00:06:24] | juski: | mute the playback channel (i.e. for LINE IN) |
| [00:06:37] | juski: | set the CAPTURE option to grab LINE IN. Done |
| [00:06:53] | juski: | in the linux mixer app ^^^^ |
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| [00:09:56] | android6011: | ok thanks |
| [00:10:00] | android6011: | think i got it going now |
| [00:10:23] | juski: | holy crap/. my wireless is too awful to even play music from an nfs share |
| [00:10:26] | juski: | F F S |
| [00:10:31] | android6011: | no its still off |
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| [00:12:10] | juski: | well, setting the right input to CAPTURE & muting it in the playback section is certainly the right way to go about making it work |
| [00:13:03] | juski: | if you unmute the channel in the 'playback' section & hear audio from the tuner immediately, then you've done something wrong in mythtv-setup somehow, or just NOT done something |
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| [00:15:44] | android6011: | how can i set the default capture to the line in? i tried aumixer and some other mixer in mythbuntu and that didnt work |
| [00:15:58] | [James]: | juski: Weve made progress. Now IMDB box doesnt show up when you start the video manager, but when I try to add the IMDB number, it just freezed mythtv, and when I hit esc. it crashes. |
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| [00:18:24] | juski: | sigh |
| [00:19:53] | android6011: | ok i got it now |
| [00:20:01] | android6011: | hopefully it lasts through reboot |
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| [00:21:40] | juski: | [James]: pastebin the whole video-ui.xml file |
| [00:21:48] | juski: | upload the whole file to pastebin.ca |
| [00:23:14] | juski: | scratch that. try a different theme like MythCenter & see if it's ok with that |
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| [00:33:06] | gbee: | juski: you're assuming the ongoing problem is theme related, I'm less sure |
| [00:33:32] | juski: | I'm starting to think it's something falling over because of a missing script dependency ;) |
| [00:33:51] | gbee: | probably something of that nature |
| [00:34:03] | gbee: | or a really old version of 0.21 |
| [00:34:13] | juski: | anyway, made me get off my arse & update something :) |
| [00:36:08] | gbee: | well I should go back to bed, only got up because I wanted to check that The Wire repeat was scheduled to record since the backend crashed before it could record the first showing |
| [00:36:15] | spikemcc: | can someone help me install my tv tuner ??? |
| [00:36:25] | android6011: | how can i find out the source id for when using custom mythfilldatabase commands? |
| [00:37:49] | coolthreads: | can someone take a quick look at my log file? thanks |
| [00:38:02] | juski: | spikemcc: way to furnish us with information that enables us to help you |
| [00:38:51] | spikemcc: | lspci > Bus 006 Device 003: ID 2040:2400 Hauppauge |
| [00:39:06] | coolthreads: | think i close to getting live tv going now, just it can't seem to read the /var/lib/mythtv/recordings files |
| [00:39:42] | juski: | spikemcc: and you think we know all the bus IDs off by heart? lol |
| [00:40:02] | spikemcc: | hauppauge win tv pvr usb 2 external tv tuner ... |
| [00:40:33] | juski: | finally. like getting blood out of a stone |
| [00:41:18] | Dagmar: | coolthreads: So take a few hours off and go look up some basic Linux command-line tutorials so you'll know your way around |
| [00:41:38] | spikemcc: | http://pastebin.com/m524d4b6 maybe my logs will help you to help me ... |
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| [00:43:09] | iamlindoro: | erm.. your logs indicate your device is working fine |
| [00:43:17] | iamlindoro: | Aug 14 03:50:06 inspiron1501 kernel: [ 1938.406171] pvrusb2: registered device video0 [mpeg] |
| [00:43:22] | iamlindoro: | To where should I mail the bill? |
| [00:43:24] | coolthreads: | Dagmar: fair opinion but you haven't considered even taking a look at what I mean |
| [00:44:08] | spikemcc: | why it don't work with an application ? |
| [00:44:25] | iamlindoro: | because the user isn't setting it up right, with virtual certainty |
| [00:44:29] | Dagmar: | coolthreads: Because it would be obvious if you were familiar with something as simple as user/group ids and file permissions. |
| [00:44:31] | Dagmar: | Not a joke. |
| [00:44:38] | spikemcc: | mplayer is the only software to start it but i got no channels ... |
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| [00:45:08] | iamlindoro: | spikemcc, We don't provide support for getting your hardware working here-- we provide support for Myth |
| [00:45:11] | Dagmar: | It's throwing the stuff in there without understanding how all the pieces fit together that's made it _not_ work |
| [00:45:20] | Dagmar: | I have a URL that might help somewhat with that part |
| [00:45:31] | iamlindoro: | spikemcc, if you want to know how to work with it on a lower level, you need to go to #v4l |
| [00:45:39] | spikemcc: | where I could get some help then ... |
| [00:45:42] | spikemcc: | ok |
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| [00:45:58] | Dagmar: | coolthreads: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Executive_Overview <-- reading this will fill you in on how Myth works |
| [00:46:19] | Dagmar: | It should make the "why" of whether or not Myth can read a given file much more obviosu |
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| [00:48:38] | juski: | we need one of those chairs with bits of the seat missing for these interrogations in here |
| [00:49:17] | juski: | people might just spill the beans right away then |
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| [00:50:13] | ** iamlindoro swings around the rop w/ the knot at the end ** | |
| [00:50:17] | iamlindoro: | er rope |
| [00:50:23] | Cyber-Dogg: | kormoc: you there? |
| [00:50:50] | coolthreads: | ok |
| [00:51:09] | kormoc: | howdy |
| [00:51:14] | Cyber-Dogg: | howdy :-) |
| [00:51:26] | Cyber-Dogg: | so... I have something weird going on with X now |
| [00:51:37] | Cyber-Dogg: | the edges of the screen are just slightly off the edge of the screen |
| [00:51:46] | Cyber-Dogg: | but the resolution is set right |
| [00:52:06] | kormoc: | it's called overscan, if your hardware supports it, the nvidia settings app can tweak the card to account for it |
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| [00:52:37] | Cyber-Dogg: | and, I had my ati x10 remote working... but then after a reboot it's not now... |
| [00:53:41] | Dagmar: | X10 is really the wrong mechanism to be using with Myth |
| [00:53:54] | Dagmar: | Hopefully you're talking about an IR remote that just happens to have X10 capabilities |
| [00:54:06] | Cyber-Dogg: | it's an rf remote |
| [00:54:11] | Cyber-Dogg: | but yes :-) |
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| [01:00:21] | nighthawk: | looks like mythplugins 21276 doesn't build |
| [01:02:30] | iamlindoro: | does here |
| [01:02:55] | Cyber-Dogg: | so, it looks like I have a Geforce 8200 |
| [01:05:59] | nighthawk: | turns out I just don't have any idea what i'm doing ;-) |
| [01:06:08] | nighthawk: | only needed a little distclean to fix things up |
| [01:06:13] | Cyber-Dogg: | I feel the same way :-) |
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| [01:09:58] | Cyber-Dogg: | so... this overscan issue... |
| [01:10:02] | Cyber-Dogg: | I didn't have it last night |
| [01:10:06] | Cyber-Dogg: | :/ |
| [01:11:17] | nighthawk: | cosmic rays |
| [01:11:36] | Cyber-Dogg: | well, I emerged so much crap last night... |
| [01:11:47] | Cyber-Dogg: | and then I rebooted this morning and this happened :/ |
| [01:11:52] | nighthawk: | metadata.cpp:398: error: ?DeleteFile? is not a member of ?RemoteFile? |
| [01:11:53] | nighthawk: | what the frak |
| [01:13:19] | iamlindoro: | You are building against out of date libraries |
| [01:13:33] | nighthawk: | yeah, but which ones? the journey begins... |
| [01:13:39] | iamlindoro: | you need to go back to mythtv, distclean that, make it again, install it, then distclean plugins and build that |
| [01:13:59] | nighthawk: | oh, so it isn't 3rd party libs? |
| [01:14:09] | iamlindoro: | no |
| [01:14:16] | nighthawk: | ah, I need to install mythtv before building mythplugins? |
| [01:14:30] | iamlindoro: | uh... yes. |
| [01:14:41] | nighthawk: | solved! |
| [01:14:45] | iamlindoro: | This does not inspire great confidence that you should be running trunk |
| [01:14:56] | nighthawk: | it worked before |
| [01:15:01] | nighthawk: | I know why, do you? ;-) |
| [01:17:21] | iamlindoro: | You must be joking |
| [01:17:29] | nighthawk: | nope |
| [01:17:36] | iamlindoro: | Your problem was about the most basic knowledge you need to run myth, let alone trunk |
| [01:17:48] | Cyber-Dogg: | so... the overscan issue I'm having seems to be related to my TV |
| [01:17:51] | nighthawk: | that isn't strictly true |
| [01:17:51] | iamlindoro: | if you don't know you need to install the frontend before building the plugins, then you should avoid trunk |
| [01:17:57] | Cyber-Dogg: | if I use the HDMI1 on it, it works fine |
| [01:18:04] | Cyber-Dogg: | if I use HDMI2... I get overscan...? |
| [01:18:05] | nighthawk: | why? |
| [01:18:50] | iamlindoro: | nighthawk, because now instead of working on myth I'm answering stupid questions that should be running trunk should know. Wonder what .22 will do without because I lost this time? |
| [01:18:55] | android6011: | is there a way to schedule a recording through command line? |
| [01:18:57] | Dagmar: | So, call up the manufacturer and bitch for giving you an option |
| [01:19:04] | nighthawk: | I didn't make you answer me, you're free to /ignore me |
| [01:19:08] | nighthawk: | in fact, I'd prefer you did |
| [01:19:09] | iamlindoro: | ok |
| [01:19:10] | iamlindoro: | bye |
| [01:19:12] | nighthawk: | :-D |
| [01:19:18] | Dagmar: | I'm sure it'll be a welcome change for them from getting chewed out over not having overscan, or for having overscan. |
| [01:19:23] | [James]: | juski: You still here? |
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| [01:19:57] | Dagmar: | nighthawk: I suggest you avoid finding out what happens when you taunt dev-types |
| [01:20:07] | [James]: | lol |
| [01:20:07] | nighthawk: | I'm not taunting anyone |
| [01:20:33] | nighthawk: | I'm a dev type myself (have as much fun with that as you feel you need to) |
| [01:20:47] | Dagmar: | I doubt it. |
| [01:20:51] | nighthawk: | doubt what? |
| [01:21:02] | eljefe: | I have a pvr-500 (dual tuners) they both show up when I configure cards, but I can't get myth to switch my tuners... Is there something I missed? |
| [01:21:06] | nighthawk: | what is this, ego night? |
| [01:21:29] | Dagmar: | Now when you're saying things like "ah, I need to install mythtv before building mythplugins?" and "yeah, but which ones? the journey begins..." |
| [01:21:47] | [James]: | That sounds like me lol |
| [01:21:51] | Dagmar: | That tells us you're a prat who fancies himself a developer and has no experience with even compiling other people's projects |
| [01:21:55] | nighthawk: | yes, that statement was when I thought I had broken one of the pre-req libs |
| [01:22:08] | nighthawk: | you're making assumptions based on incomplete data |
| [01:22:27] | Dagmar: | And you're making the assumption that you're can b.s. the people in here like you b.s. the average person on the street |
| [01:22:33] | Dagmar: | s/you're/you/; |
| [01:22:40] | nighthawk: | how am I b.s.ing anyone? |
| [01:23:01] | Dagmar: | By acting like you know the difference between your ass and a hole in the ground, if you must ask. |
| [01:23:07] | [James]: | dont bs a bs'er |
| [01:23:18] | nighthawk: | oh, that is an excellent argument |
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| [01:23:45] | Dagmar: | Considering that I just got done building a 168 binary packages in the last three days you can bite me |
| [01:23:53] | [James]: | *sings*Why cant we cant we be friends*sings* |
| [01:24:09] | nighthawk: | that is some serious skill |
| [01:24:24] | Dagmar: | With any luck I'll have a beta ready after another 30–40 of them and a day or two of testingt |
| [01:24:54] | nighthawk: | please forgive me for questioning you |
| [01:25:48] | [James]: | Dagmar: WWJD |
| [01:26:13] | nighthawk: | James: well, what WOULD you do? ;-) |
| [01:26:22] | Dagmar: | [James]: JEsus would say "eff it" and run Ubuntu |
| [01:26:27] | [James]: | lol |
| [01:26:36] | [James]: | I love Ubuntu |
| [01:27:08] | eljefe: | can two tuners use the same input connections? |
| [01:27:51] | Anduin: | eljefe: as in channel list? |
| [01:28:09] | eljefe: | i guess so |
| [01:28:13] | Dagmar: | eljefe: If they're both say, connected to the same coaxiable cable network? Sure |
| [01:28:22] | Dagmar: | That's part of the reason things are set up the way they are |
| [01:28:52] | Dagmar: | I've got Comcast cable here, and a PVR-500 (which to the system, looks like two tuners) |
| [01:28:53] | eljefe: | so then why doesn't it work when i press c |
| [01:29:09] | [James]: | Dagmar: Do you know of a way to get schedules direct data free? |
| [01:29:10] | Dagmar: | Why doesn't what work |
| [01:29:26] | eljefe: | it doesn't change from tuner 1 to tuner 2 |
| [01:29:26] | Dagmar: | [James]: Yeah, you pay $20 or whatever for the first month and the next 11 are free. |
| [01:29:26] | nighthawk: | it doesn't change tuner? |
| [01:29:42] | nighthawk: | I think it isn't supposed to |
| [01:29:54] | [James]: | ROFL |
| [01:29:57] | Dagmar: | eljefe: Did you for sure tell Myth you have two tuners, and bound the *source* to both of them? |
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| [01:30:26] | android6011: | 55 |
| [01:30:33] | eljefe: | yea i have /dev/video0 (Tuner 1) and /dev/video1 (Tuner1) |
| [01:30:36] | Dagmar: | [James]: Trust me man, when the alternative is forever dorking around with xmltv (or at least having to unbreak it five times a year) that $20 is WAY well spent |
| [01:30:53] | [James]: | I can imagine that |
| [01:30:54] | Dagmar: | eljefe: Okay so did you associate them both with the same signal source? |
| [01:30:59] | eljefe: | yes |
| [01:31:11] | Dagmar: | [James]: Yeah it does generally suck that something costs *gasp* money |
| [01:31:11] | eljefe: | just a channel scan called Cable |
| [01:31:13] | Dagmar: | I feel your pain there. |
| [01:31:15] | Cyber-Dogg: | so the picture off the screen problem... I just changed the TV to just scan... fixed |
| [01:31:17] | Dagmar: | But, it's money well spent |
| [01:31:21] | Dagmar: | WELL spent |
| [01:31:25] | nighthawk: | I spent more than 20$ building my IR setup |
| [01:31:43] | Dagmar: | elejfe: You ahve what signal source? |
| [01:31:43] | Anduin: | eljefe: Try m -> Switch Input |
| [01:31:45] | [James]: | Dagmar: Lol, but its open source :) |
| [01:31:52] | Dagmar: | [James]: No it's not |
| [01:32:01] | [James]: | Linux :( |
| [01:32:19] | eljefe: | its 6 cents a day, get the schedules |
| [01:32:20] | Dagmar: | The listings data is not open source |
| [01:32:30] | Dagmar: | People who have jobs to do so put that in |
| [01:33:07] | [James]: | I know. They should work for free to support the mythtv community ;) |
| [01:33:09] | nighthawk: | compare your hourly work rate to time spent not using SD |
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| [01:33:38] | eljefe: | Anduin: it only has 1 input in the menu as well |
| [01:33:49] | Dagmar: | [James]: Feel free to come up with a non-infringing way for "community volunteers" to populate that data, in all those markets, from all those cable and satellite providers |
| [01:33:56] | nighthawk: | eljefe: just curious what tuners you are using? |
| [01:34:06] | eljefe: | its a pvr-500 dual card |
| [01:34:29] | Anduin: | eljefe: You haven't configured the input source on the second input (my guess) |
| [01:34:45] | eljefe: | both say they are hooked to the cable source |
| [01:34:52] | Dagmar: | elejfe: Scanning does not work with those |
| [01:35:14] | eljefe: | uh... just for channels it does, no data |
| [01:35:21] | Anduin: | eljefe: Unless an input is recording it should be listed. |
| [01:35:21] | Dagmar: | No. |
| [01:35:32] | Dagmar: | It cannot get meaningful signal information from an NTSC broadcast source |
| [01:35:38] | eljefe: | okay, you're right. I must just be lucky ;) |
| [01:35:39] | iamlindoro: | The one listed is the one you're *not* using |
| [01:35:55] | iamlindoro: | so a two tuner setup will show one in switch inputs |
| [01:36:23] | eljefe: | lol thank you iamlindoro |
| [01:36:32] | iamlindoro: | np |
| [01:36:32] | eljefe: | but c should change it as well? |
| [01:36:36] | iamlindoro: | no |
| [01:36:37] | Anduin: | no |
| [01:36:55] | eljefe: | why? it used to |
| [01:36:58] | iamlindoro: | in .21 and later, nextcard is unbound by default |
| [01:36:58] | Dagmar: | heh |
| [01:37:00] | nighthawk: | c changes only when it is configured as a seperate source right? |
| [01:37:17] | eljefe: | I just configured it on a separate source as well |
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| [01:38:40] | iamlindoro: | If you want C to work as you are thinking, you need to bind it to NEXTCARD |
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| [01:39:09] | iamlindoro: | In the TV Playback context |
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| [01:39:14] | nighthawk: | the graphite theme is polishing up really nice |
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| [01:41:11] | eljefe: | iamlindoro: TV Playback? in the frontend settings? |
| [01:44:20] | nighthawk: | does mythvideo have any sort of event mechanism for pre and post playback user scripts? |
| [01:45:42] | Dagmar: | Not that I've noticed |
| [01:45:58] | Anduin: | It does not |
| [01:46:10] | eljefe: | iamlindoro: nevermind, it is bound to Y now. Thanks for your help |
| [01:46:13] | Dagmar: | I can think of some uses for such a thing tho, but that would likely be best off as a more feature replete set of patches |
| [01:46:14] | Anduin: | (though you could make your own play command) |
| [01:46:19] | iamlindoro: | eljefe, np |
| [01:46:59] | nighthawk: | yeah, I have a use case, but it is one of those things where it is probably better to wrap it into a larger change instead of hack it in |
| [01:48:48] | krisb: | hmm |
| [01:49:18] | krisb: | someone broke the configure script for mythplugins in svn :o you have to add --prefix=/usr/local even though that is the default one |
| [01:49:26] | krisb: | weird |
| [01:49:37] | krisb: | it was trying to include libs from /include |
| [01:49:39] | nighthawk: | can one call the internal player? I could "external" to a script for what I want to do and then back to internal instead of mplayer, duct tapish, but it would work for me :-D |
| [01:49:45] | delsol_: | 80 minutes or so for a super bitchin case: |
| [01:49:45] | delsol_: | http://cgi.ebay.com/SUPERMICRO-3U-Server-Chas . . . p3286.c0.m14 |
| [01:49:50] | delsol_: | (with PSUs) |
| [01:50:28] | krisb: | atleast that fixed one of the errors, bah |
| [01:50:56] | Anduin: | nighthawk: no |
| [01:51:00] | krisb: | err nevermind, maybe I should do this when I'm more awake |
| [01:51:17] | nighthawk: | ah well :\ |
| [01:51:31] | eljefe: | oh, so how can i make mouse clicks work in myth? |
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| [01:54:05] | nighthawk: | I thought I had seen something about enabling mouse on the wiki, but can't seem to find it |
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| [02:00:15] | krisb: | finally it compiles, i am an idiot |
| [02:00:33] | eljefe_: | my scroll works already i can choose items, but have to use keyboard to hit enter |
| [02:01:05] | eljefe_: | I just want to bind middle click (mouse3) to enter and buttons 1/2 to back/forward |
| [02:01:38] | nighthawk: | krisb: setting configure options while doing something else at the same time hasn't worked out to well for me either ;-) |
| [02:05:26] | krisb: | well, last night when I was even more tired I completely forgot about the configure script when trying to install mythvideo |
| [02:05:34] | krisb: | and went to the mythvideo dir and did a qmake |
| [02:05:52] | krisb: | and I forgot about that today |
| [02:06:04] | krisb: | so there were leftover broken Makefiles that made mythvideo not compile |
| [02:06:28] | krisb: | and configure didn't overwrite them |
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| [02:08:32] | unimaginative: | Can anyone offer some suggestions? I press "guide" and the remote stops responding. If I hit "exit" then it starts working agin. |
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| [02:12:07] | nighthawk: | I forgot to install the mythtv build before I ran the build for mythplugins and thought I had accidentally removed some external libs when I updated my system earlier... so much for running on 5 hours sleep |
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| [02:13:00] | unimaginative: | weird |
| [02:13:04] | krisb: | yeah, though I did have to copy mythsystem.h manually to /usr/local/include/mythtv so I might have broken something else |
| [02:13:07] | unimaginative: | I can control it just fine with the tenlet interface |
| [02:13:23] | unimaginative: | so it's definately the remote/lirc |
| [02:13:27] | krisb: | should probably start with a clean SVN checkout :P |
| [02:13:36] | krisb: | unimaginative: what does irw show when you press the buttons? |
| [02:14:10] | nighthawk: | I spent most of my evening screwing around with the ftdi IR receiver trying to make that work before I moved on to building trunk |
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| [02:16:10] | unimaginative: | krisb: irw is showing all the keypresses correctly |
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| [02:16:57] | nighthawk: | still wont read consistent timings :-( |
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| [02:17:05] | krisb: | are you running trunk? |
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| [02:17:25] | unimaginative: | krisb: no, 0.21-fixes |
| [02:17:34] | krisb: | no idea then |
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| [02:17:49] | unimaginative: | krisb: I'm thinking lirc isn't passing th3e keypresses to myth corectly |
| [02:18:02] | unimaginative: | let me double check my lircrc |
| [02:18:10] | krisb: | which method are you using? internal myth support for lirc? |
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| [02:20:09] | unimaginative: | I'm not sure what the method is called, but in my lircrc, for every key in my lircrc, I have " prog = mythtv" |
| [02:20:33] | krisb: | .mythtv/lircrc ? |
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| [02:21:41] | unimaginative: | krisb: correct, with a symlink in ~/.lircrc |
| [02:22:01] | krisb: | probably using the internal lirc support then |
| [02:22:43] | unimaginative: | krisb: I'm not sure how lirc hands off the request to mythfrontend though |
| [02:22:48] | unimaginative: | any ideas? |
| [02:23:00] | unimaginative: | the telnet interface works fine, even after the remote has stopped responding |
| [02:23:05] | krisb: | mythfrontend reads from the lirc socket |
| [02:23:14] | nighthawk: | I believe you have to enable that |
| [02:23:30] | krisb: | did you check the mythfrontend output? |
| [02:24:44] | unimaginative: | mythfrontend's log doesnt show anything special when the problem happens |
| [02:25:29] | unimaginative: | I guess for the time being I can bind the "up" and "down" arrow keys on the remote to a netcat script to issue the commands via telnet interface, but that's hackis |
| [02:25:53] | nighthawk: | I'm pretty sure in the frontend setup there is a screen for turning on lirc support |
| [02:26:04] | unimaginative: | nighthawk: just a second, let me check |
| [02:26:32] | krisb: | well if all buttons work except two then i guess lirc is turned on |
| [02:26:48] | unimaginative: | the remote works wonderfully until I go into the guide |
| [02:27:17] | unimaginative: | then it registers the *first* keypress and nothing else afterwards, until "exit" is pressed |
| [02:27:35] | krisb: | maybe you messed up some of the keybindings in myth? |
| [02:27:39] | krisb: | under settings -> edit keys |
| [02:28:54] | unimaginative: | but up/down/left/right are global bindings, arent they? |
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| [02:30:13] | krisb: | I suppose, it was just a shot in the dark, I was gonna say the guide froze your myth but if telnet works then that can't be it, so I have no idea |
| [02:30:55] | unimaginative: | krisb: I've got two remotes configured, let me find the other one and see if it works |
| [02:31:06] | unimaginative: | if it does then it's gotta be a configuration issue |
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| [02:32:59] | jams: | some window managers will cause that |
| [02:33:00] | Dagmar: | From your description it's a mmisconfiguration in lirc |
| [02:33:40] | unimaginative: | The other remote acts exactly the same |
| [02:33:41] | Dagmar: | Wait, no, hanging up like that in the guide would rather mean your myth binary is broken |
| [02:33:49] | Dagmar: | Get one that doesn't suck |
| [02:34:05] | unimaginative: | ? |
| [02:34:38] | unimaginative: | the program isnt frozen |
| [02:35:00] | unimaginative: | the telnet interface still works after the remote(s!) stop working |
| [02:35:06] | unimaginative: | I'll keep piddling |
| [02:35:36] | nighthawk: | does pluggin in a kb work? |
| [02:35:43] | unimaginative: | have not tried that yet |
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| [02:45:07] | nighthawk: | why would I get a file not found for a shared library that is present where it should be? |
| [02:46:18] | krisb: | wrong version? path not in /etc/ld.so.conf ? |
| [02:46:39] | krisb: | (remember to run ldconfig if you edit ld.so.conf) |
| [02:48:35] | Cyber-Dogg: | kormoc: I just changed the TV to just scan and problem is gone |
| [02:48:54] | Cyber-Dogg: | :-) |
| [02:49:25] | krisb: | hmm |
| [02:49:28] | krisb: | /dev/mapper/storbox 3.6T 1.3T 2.4T 36% /media/storbox |
| [02:49:31] | krisb: | need more diskspace soon |
| [02:49:32] | krisb: | :o |
| [02:49:34] | Dagmar: | It'll also fail if that library has a dependent library that's missing |
| [02:50:13] | clever: | holy sh*t |
| [02:50:19] | clever: | 3.6tb .... |
| [02:50:28] | nighthawk: | krisb was right, I had overlooked a typo |
| [02:50:34] | krisb: | it's actually a 5x 1TB drives in RAID5 |
| [02:50:46] | clever: | lol |
| [02:50:59] | clever: | raid5 under lvm id say |
| [02:51:19] | krisb: | nah, md raid |
| [02:51:34] | clever: | ah |
| [02:51:42] | clever: | i'm used to seeing /dev/mapper for lvm |
| [02:51:51] | krisb: | yeah on top of the md device |
| [02:51:53] | clever: | allways though raid would be /dev/md |
| [02:52:06] | krisb: | the raid is /dev/md0, lvm is ontop of that |
| [02:52:40] | krisb: | though I have spent more time rebuilding the RAID than actually using it |
| [02:52:44] | krisb: | hopefully it will be stable now |
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| [02:55:39] | nighthawk: | ah finally, got trunk running with stoth's updated driver |
| [02:56:15] | krisb: | hmm, I might have to get a Logitech Cordless MediaBoard Pro bluetooth keyboard with touchpad |
| [02:56:28] | krisb: | and set up multiple X servers with hotkeys to switch between |
| [02:56:39] | krisb: | so I can easily switch between myth, firefox and spotify |
| [02:57:10] | thedarkone: | how do u post a file ? as a patch? for trunk one? |
| [03:00:18] | iamlindoro: | If you mean a patch to myth, yes, you open a ticket on trac and attach a unified diff with a detailed description of what it does |
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| [03:10:07] | nighthawk: | hvr-2250 still not working great :-( |
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| [03:10:14] | thedarkone: | okay well i just was working on terra theme and fix the tv guide to look like schedule program guide |
| [03:15:42] | android6011: | i had a recording scheduled, and it popped up the box asking if i wanted to watch and record, record go to menu etc. |
| [03:15:51] | android6011: | if i wasnt home would it just default to watch and record? |
| [03:16:03] | kormoc: | what was selected when it poped up? |
| [03:16:18] | kormoc: | (and why would you have live tv on and not be home?) |
| [03:16:28] | kormoc: | ((and why would you have live tv on!?!?!)) |
| [03:16:46] | Cyber-Dogg: | so... I'm down to two problems now :-) |
| [03:16:47] | android6011: | well im saying if the machine was running but tv off |
| [03:16:52] | Cyber-Dogg: | my remote wonder |
| [03:16:56] | android6011: | who knows what others in the house would do :p |
| [03:16:56] | Cyber-Dogg: | and sound |
| [03:17:04] | kormoc: | train them with pain |
| [03:17:07] | android6011: | watch and record was selected |
| [03:17:15] | kormoc: | so that's what it would do |
| [03:17:43] | android6011: | ok |
| [03:17:47] | android6011: | i figured, just checking |
| [03:18:43] | android6011: | i figured, just checking |
| [03:18:54] | android6011: | ok |
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| [03:18:56] | android6011: | ok |
| [03:19:01] | ** kormoc blinks ** | |
| [03:19:01] | android6011: | 56 |
| [03:19:06] | nighthawk: | anyone here happen to be using an hvr-2250 ? |
| [03:19:07] | android6011: | opps |
| [03:19:24] | android6011: | how can i cancel once a recording has started? it keeps saying tuner is busy and either cancel or watch |
| [03:19:41] | android6011: | pressing stop just puts me back at main menu |
| [03:19:45] | android6011: | pressing record does nothing |
| [03:19:50] | kormoc: | go cancel the recording |
| [03:20:19] | android6011: | how can i cancel once a recording has started? it keeps saying tuner is busy and either cancel or watch |
| [03:20:36] | iamlindoro: | he's stuck in a loop |
| [03:20:39] | android6011: | how can i cancel once a recording has started? it keeps saying tuner is busy and either cancel or watch |
| [03:20:45] | iamlindoro: | jesus eff |
| [03:20:51] | ** kormoc eyes the quiet button ** | |
| [03:20:52] | nighthawk: | so it isn't just my client |
| [03:21:04] | android6011: | my bad |
| [03:21:18] | android6011: | media center remote and laptop dont mix :p |
| [03:21:41] | kormoc: | android6011: www.lmgtfy.com?q=mythtv%20cancel%20recording |
| [03:22:06] | android6011: | well when i have this windows pulled up its a lot easier |
| [03:22:13] | nighthawk: | kormoc: that site is perect :D |
| [03:22:34] | nighthawk: | I now have an effective tool to educate the college hires @ work |
| [03:22:41] | Cyber-Dogg: | so kormoc |
| [03:22:47] | Cyber-Dogg: | you know how my sound didn't work in gentoo in myth? |
| [03:22:57] | Cyber-Dogg: | well i've discovered that it doens't seem to work in X either |
| [03:23:02] | Cyber-Dogg: | in the sound setup tool |
| [03:23:17] | kormoc: | so you likely don't have the correct driver compiled into your kernel |
| [03:23:34] | Cyber-Dogg: | even though when I run speaker-test it works fine? |
| [03:23:59] | ** kormoc doesn't know what speaker-test is, nor what the x sound setup tool is ** | |
| [03:24:07] | Cyber-Dogg: | lol |
| [03:24:08] | nighthawk: | did you make sure myth was pointed at the correct device? |
| [03:24:15] | Cyber-Dogg: | yeah |
| [03:24:17] | Cyber-Dogg: | ALSA:default |
| [03:24:29] | nighthawk: | and speaker-test was with ALSA:default ? |
| [03:24:33] | Cyber-Dogg: | yep |
| [03:24:45] | kormoc: | and your mythtv user is in the audio group? |
| [03:24:49] | Cyber-Dogg: | well... i've got other issues at the moment... |
| [03:24:54] | Cyber-Dogg: | I can't get my firewire to work again |
| [03:24:59] | Cyber-Dogg: | but I had it working before! :-) |
| [03:25:04] | Cyber-Dogg: | yes it was |
| [03:25:24] | nighthawk: | can you run speaker-test w/your mythtv user? |
| [03:25:27] | Cyber-Dogg: | so I have the firewire prime working |
| [03:25:35] | Cyber-Dogg: | it tells me it's primed |
| [03:25:46] | Cyber-Dogg: | but when I hit watch Tv it flashes and comes righ tback |
| [03:26:00] | kormoc: | so check the logs? |
| [03:28:10] | Cyber-Dogg: | doh... didn' thave video source bound |
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| [03:28:55] | nighthawk: | I found a new way to take down my htpc, rmmod old saa7164 drivers, then modprobe with new drivers... |
| [03:29:33] | kormoc: | I always liked dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/kmem |
| [03:30:12] | nighthawk: | this one made X go greyscreen, and no ping response |
| [03:31:07] | Cyber-Dogg: | ok |
| [03:31:22] | nighthawk: | kormoc: perhaps that is how skynet gained sentience |
| [03:31:24] | Cyber-Dogg: | so now in the log I see "Error: No valid DTV info, ATSC..." |
| [03:31:37] | Cyber-Dogg: | Error: Failed to setup digital signal monitoring |
| [03:31:52] | kormoc: | Cyber-Dogg: I bet google would know |
| [03:32:03] | Cyber-Dogg: | ask the oracle |
| [03:32:07] | kormoc: | nighthawk: how'd you know the name of my server? ;) |
| [03:32:34] | nighthawk: | 15 days till skynet's birthday ;-) |
| [03:32:44] | delsol: | Congratulations whoever got the case. |
| [03:33:21] | Dagmar: | kormoc: It was more fun when you could rm /proc/kcore |
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| [03:34:45] | Cyber-Dogg: | how do i rebuild 6200ch? |
| [03:34:55] | Cyber-Dogg: | I need to add a new vendor id to it |
| [03:34:55] | nighthawk: | I remember when I had a RH7 box and I rm -rf / just to see how it would fall apart |
| [03:35:25] | pat__: | we've all had fun like that in the past "kill -9 1" |
| [03:35:33] | Cyber-Dogg: | I know it's in /usr/share/mythtv/contrib/channel_changers |
| [03:35:37] | Cyber-Dogg: | and I can modify it |
| [03:35:42] | Cyber-Dogg: | just don't know how to rebuild it |
| [03:36:30] | Cyber-Dogg: | n/m |
| [03:36:33] | Cyber-Dogg: | figured it out |
| [03:39:02] | nighthawk: | 2009-08–14 23:38:41.800 NVP(1): Prebuffer wait timed out 20 times. |
| [03:39:10] | nighthawk: | is that an issue with the tuner or myth? |
| [03:39:25] | Dagmar: | Could be either |
| [03:39:53] | Dagmar: | This is why the docs talk about testing your tuner _outside of myth_ |
| [03:40:35] | nighthawk: | mplayer seems to also have issues with the stream |
| [03:42:04] | clever: | pat__: yesterday i was pushing the magic sysrq keys |
| [03:42:15] | clever: | pat__: i forgot that synergy cant forward them to the next computer over |
| [03:42:32] | clever: | instead of killing the remote pc, i killed the local one |
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| [03:46:40] | Dagmar: | I wonder what part of "local interrupt" confused you |
| [03:47:55] | clever: | i was so used to synergy working so seamlessly and i just hit the keys without thinking |
| [03:48:13] | clever: | the target was a vmware session on winblows |
| [03:48:21] | android6011: | i can't figure out how to switch tuners. I have both tuners with the same channel info. they have the same line in so the channels will be the same, but i just cant figure out how to say ok get channel 56 on this tuner not this one |
| [03:48:35] | Dagmar: | You basically can't. |
| [03:48:47] | Dagmar: | Is there some difference between what you're feeding both inputs? |
| [03:48:53] | android6011: | nope |
| [03:49:06] | android6011: | i just want one for watching, one for recording |
| [03:49:27] | Dagmar: | You can set weights for them, but htat's about it |
| [03:49:43] | Dagmar: | It won't do what you want becuause frankly, what you want doesn't make a lot of sense. |
| [03:49:50] | clever: | you can also mark a prefered card for recording rules |
| [03:50:14] | nighthawk: | if they are both the same source then it doesn't really matter which is which |
| [03:50:18] | Cyber-Dogg: | ok |
| [03:50:19] | android6011: | well i mean, right now its defaulting live tv to my bad card |
| [03:50:20] | clever: | but Dagmar is right, its better to just let it pick whatever card is free |
| [03:50:20] | Cyber-Dogg: | firewire is working again |
| [03:50:33] | Dagmar: | So there IS a difference between them then |
| [03:50:39] | android6011: | oh |
| [03:50:43] | android6011: | you meant diff between the cards? |
| [03:50:45] | android6011: | then yes |
| [03:50:58] | android6011: | i thought you meant between the feed coming into them, i just have a splitter |
| [03:50:58] | nighthawk: | if one is bad, then it probably shouldn't be in use at all |
| [03:51:01] | clever: | remove the bad card from the config |
| [03:51:17] | android6011: | i just want to fall back on the bad card while the good card is recording if i want to watch something else |
| [03:51:46] | android6011: | i mean its not "bad" but its not good |
| [03:52:09] | nighthawk: | define good? |
| [03:52:24] | android6011: | not very fuzzy like my bad one is |
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| [03:53:01] | android6011: | will mythweb let me pick which card to record from? |
| [03:53:19] | Cyber-Dogg: | ok |
| [03:53:22] | Cyber-Dogg: | so regarding my audio |
| [03:53:24] | Cyber-Dogg: | the log says |
| [03:53:32] | Cyber-Dogg: | Opening ALSA audio device 'default' |
| [03:53:40] | Cyber-Dogg: | mixer unable to find control Master 1 |
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| [03:54:04] | clever: | android6011: mythweb and mythfrontend let you set a prefered input for a recording rule |
| [03:54:15] | android6011: | ok |
| [03:55:06] | Cyber-Dogg: | so, if I leave X |
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| [03:55:09] | Dagmar: | Cyber-Dogg: Try checking the wiki. I hear it's documented |
| [03:56:25] | android6011: | how is the pvr-250 quality |
| [03:56:32] | Dagmar: | Obsolete |
| [03:56:56] | android6011: | for analog though? wont analog only get so good? |
| [03:57:10] | kormoc: | analog is obsolete |
| [03:57:15] | Dagmar: | That model card is obsolete |
| [03:57:39] | android6011: | what would be a good card then? |
| [03:57:41] | Dagmar: | It was superceded by the PVR-150 a long time ago |
| [03:57:47] | Dagmar: | Pfft. |
| [03:58:06] | Dagmar: | TV makes people functionally illiterate. |
| [03:58:08] | Cyber-Dogg: | now speaker-test isn't working! |
| [03:58:18] | android6011: | right now i have hvr-1800 but still waiting analog support |
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| [04:18:56] | Cyber-Dogg: | where is asound.conf on gentoo? |
| [04:19:22] | Dagmar: | The same place it should be on every other Linux system running a kernel from the last eight years |
| [04:19:29] | Cyber-Dogg: | lol |
| [04:19:31] | Cyber-Dogg: | ok... |
| [04:19:41] | kormoc: | not anywhere by default? |
| [04:19:58] | Cyber-Dogg: | yeah... I was looking in /etc but I didn't see it |
| [04:20:18] | Cyber-Dogg: | so... kormoc: should I have to configure it at all? |
| [04:20:26] | Cyber-Dogg: | or shold it just pick my stuff up on it's own? |
| [04:20:34] | kormoc: | depends on your card |
| [04:20:36] | Dagmar: | We need to start telling people that they need at least six months of administrator-level Unix experience before they can install Myth on Gentoo |
| [04:20:56] | Cyber-Dogg: | lol |
| [04:21:10] | Cyber-Dogg: | kormoc: I have onboard nvidia sound |
| [04:21:14] | Dagmar: | Everyone else should go straight to MythBuntu, do not pass go, do not ask a buncha questions that are documented on the web seven ways from Sunday |
| [04:21:16] | kormoc: | Dagmar: I typically tell people they should go do LFS without documentation for a few years before Gentoo.... |
| [04:21:36] | Dagmar: | kormoc: I just figure if they're gone for six months that's six months of bliss |
| [04:21:38] | kormoc: | Cyber-Dogg: typically you shouldn't need anything for that (assuming a recent kernel) |
| [04:21:40] | Cyber-Dogg: | it's HDA Nvidi |
| [04:21:43] | Cyber-Dogg: | right... |
| [04:21:52] | Dagmar: | I've seen exactly _one_ MythTV question in the last four hours |
| [04:22:17] | kormoc: | cat /proc/asound/cards |
| [04:22:22] | kormoc: | is your card listed? |
| [04:22:31] | Cyber-Dogg: | yep |
| [04:22:37] | Cyber-Dogg: | HDA-Intel – HDA Nvidia |
| [04:22:47] | kormoc: | with a valid irq/etc? |
| [04:22:57] | Cyber-Dogg: | it would appear so |
| [04:23:03] | Cyber-Dogg: | nothing looks wrong with it to me |
| [04:23:09] | Dagmar: | Everything else almost entirely wihtout exception has been nothing but people too lazy to use Google to find answers to the most basic of questions |
| [04:23:33] | kormoc: | so run/instlal alsamixer and verify the sound isn't muted/etc |
| [04:23:40] | Cyber-Dogg: | yep, done that |
| [04:23:41] | kormoc: | (is this a mac mini?) |
| [04:23:45] | Cyber-Dogg: | nope |
| [04:23:49] | Cyber-Dogg: | it's a shuttle xpc |
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| [04:23:58] | Cyber-Dogg: | nothing is muted, volumes all up full |
| [04:24:03] | kormoc: | okay, so when you try to playback sound, what does it say? |
| [04:24:09] | Cyber-Dogg: | nothing :-) |
| [04:24:19] | kormoc: | has it ever worked with this kernel? |
| [04:24:22] | Cyber-Dogg: | yes |
| [04:24:30] | kormoc: | what broke it? |
| [04:24:48] | Cyber-Dogg: | if I knew that I wouldn't be asking such a vague question :-) LOL |
| [04:24:58] | Cyber-Dogg: | seriously... it worked like 3 hours ago |
| [04:25:09] | Cyber-Dogg: | then I started banging on the firewire issues and stuff |
| [04:25:14] | Cyber-Dogg: | somewhere in there I broke it I guess |
| [04:25:17] | Dagmar: | So did you reboot yet? |
| [04:25:21] | Cyber-Dogg: | yes |
| [04:25:27] | Cyber-Dogg: | several times |
| [04:25:41] | Cyber-Dogg: | uh... I guess one thing that I have added was wpa_supplicant |
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| [04:25:46] | Cyber-Dogg: | and I'm using a broadcom |
| [04:25:52] | Cyber-Dogg: | so I had to do fwcutter |
| [04:25:53] | kormoc: | so when you run speaker-test, what does it say? |
| [04:25:55] | ** kormoc sighs ** | |
| [04:25:56] | Dagmar: | So check dmesg for errors and/or make sure the mixer levels aren't muted. |
| [04:26:04] | kormoc: | kill it, you don't want to use that |
| [04:26:15] | kormoc: | it's a 802.11N? |
| [04:26:18] | Cyber-Dogg: | speaker-test doesn't say anything, no errors |
| [04:26:23] | Cyber-Dogg: | no... old g card |
| [04:26:30] | Cyber-Dogg: | 43xx |
| [04:26:37] | kormoc: | nothing or no errors? |
| [04:26:53] | Cyber-Dogg: | it says playback device is default |
| [04:27:03] | Cyber-Dogg: | 1 channels |
| [04:27:05] | Cyber-Dogg: | pin noise |
| [04:27:06] | Cyber-Dogg: | ,etc.. |
| [04:27:07] | krisb: | hmm, I should probably be more awake to configure JAMU properly |
| [04:27:21] | Cyber-Dogg: | shows time per period 0 – Front left |
| [04:29:15] | Cyber-Dogg: | so upon further analysis... it would appear it's a mixer problem |
| [04:29:22] | Cyber-Dogg: | but I have all the volumes cranked in alsamixer |
| [04:29:28] | kormoc: | are they muted? |
| [04:29:35] | Cyber-Dogg: | nope |
| [04:29:40] | Cyber-Dogg: | the sound is just really quiet |
| [04:30:00] | thedarkone: | trunk one is awsome features on it |
| [04:30:41] | thedarkone: | i mean has awsome features on it |
| [04:30:44] | Cyber-Dogg: | ok |
| [04:31:02] | Cyber-Dogg: | well... it's working well enough I can hear it righ tnext to the speaker at least... |
| [04:31:03] | kormoc: | features on it? not worried they'll crush it? |
| [04:31:10] | Cyber-Dogg: | so I'm goign to try myth again |
| [04:31:17] | kormoc: | run amixer and pastebin the output? |
| [04:32:34] | Cyber-Dogg: | sweet! |
| [04:32:36] | Cyber-Dogg: | reboot |
| [04:32:37] | Cyber-Dogg: | it works |
| [04:32:40] | Cyber-Dogg: | loaded myth |
| [04:32:43] | Cyber-Dogg: | sound works! |
| [04:32:45] | Cyber-Dogg: | :-) |
| [04:32:51] | ** kormoc blinks ** | |
| [04:33:41] | Cyber-Dogg: | just accept it... |
| [04:33:44] | Cyber-Dogg: | it works... |
| [04:33:44] | Cyber-Dogg: | :-) |
| [04:33:49] | Cyber-Dogg: | LOL |
| [04:33:55] | Cyber-Dogg: | I don't want to question it and make it mad |
| [04:33:57] | Cyber-Dogg: | so... |
| [04:34:08] | Cyber-Dogg: | my last problem is the ati_remote |
| [04:35:05] | krisb: | hmm, anyone here using JAMU? |
| [04:35:13] | krisb: | is there a way to tell it to ignore a directory? |
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| [04:36:00] | kormoc: | Yes, afaik no |
| [04:36:37] | krisb: | bah, it fails because it doesn't have permissions to open lost+found |
| [04:37:18] | Cyber-Dogg: | so how about tackling that HDMI :-) |
| [04:37:18] | kormoc: | RDV_Linux: might be worth doing a readable check and gracefully handle it? |
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| [04:38:02] | kormoc: | What's to tackle? just read the docs, follow the docs, enjoy |
| [04:38:19] | Cyber-Dogg: | no, I mean sound over HDMI |
| [04:38:35] | kormoc: | As I said, read docs, follow docs, enjoy |
| [04:38:39] | Cyber-Dogg: | LOL |
| [04:38:43] | Cyber-Dogg: | I tried that |
| [04:40:31] | kormoc: | Try it again? |
| [04:40:43] | Cyber-Dogg: | yeah I will |
| [04:40:51] | Cyber-Dogg: | any pointers on the atiremote? |
| [04:40:52] | Dagmar: | Hire someone? |
| [04:40:58] | Cyber-Dogg: | I've got lirc installed |
| [04:41:05] | kormoc: | I don't use anything ATI |
| [04:41:09] | Dagmar: | Chuck it and buy a serial IR dongle and a $15 remote from walmart |
| [04:41:26] | Dagmar: | Either way, the answer is sstill the same |
| [04:41:32] | Dagmar: | "read docs, follow docs, enjoy" |
| [04:45:21] | krisb: | argh, not a fan of hacking python code |
| [04:48:24] | iamlindoro: | MWaaaaaaahahaha |
| [04:48:34] | iamlindoro: | I'm going to get MythVideo to < 10 tickets by weekend, and I aimed |
| [04:48:38] | iamlindoro: | er as I |
| [04:49:30] | ** Dagmar files bug reports about lack of ficticious video support ** | |
| [04:49:48] | krisb: | jesus I can't even add a permission check to python code :/ |
| [04:49:50] | ** Dagmar files bug reports about lack of support for gumball dispensers ** | |
| [04:50:39] | iamlindoro: | WIN! MythVideo tickets = 9 |
| [04:51:09] | iamlindoro: | And just a shade over two years of openness on that last ticket |
| [04:52:58] | ** kormoc cheers ** | |
| [04:53:40] | iamlindoro: | That last one made me a little crazy trying to get right, too |
| [04:53:41] | krisb: | if os.access(cfile, os.R_OK): |
| [04:53:45] | krisb: | technically, that should work |
| [04:53:47] | krisb: | I think |
| [04:54:33] | krisb: | I have not written a single line of python code in my life |
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| [04:54:49] | krisb: | well now I have |
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| [05:01:23] | iamlindoro: | If Anduin finds some time to fix the scan bug I think MythVideo will be in some serious business :) |
| [05:06:28] | Cyber-Dogg: | so, should I be using xvmc? |
| [05:06:42] | kormoc: | no |
| [05:06:53] | Cyber-Dogg: | because it's pumping errors out about it |
| [05:08:40] | Cyber-Dogg: | it says Xlib: extension "XVideo Motion Compensation" missing on display |
| [05:09:22] | krisb: | os.access must be broken in python or something |
| [05:09:25] | krisb: | I have no idea |
| [05:10:44] | wagnerrp: | my finger tips are raw... it hurts to type |
| [05:11:25] | GreyFoxx: | \ |
| [05:11:43] | wagnerrp: | Cyber-Dogg: if you have a board that supports sound over HDMI, you do not have XvMC support |
| [05:12:14] | wagnerrp: | theyre not mutually exclusive, but no hardware exists that is capable of both |
| [05:15:59] | krisb: | yay |
| [05:16:09] | krisb: | I fixed it |
| [05:17:18] | Cyber-Dogg: | k |
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| [05:23:34] | Cyber-Dogg: | so how do i get rid of it? |
| [05:23:56] | kormoc: | get rid of what? |
| [05:24:45] | kormoc: | There's this thing called context that helps words convey thoughts |
| [05:25:30] | Cyber-Dogg: | LOL |
| [05:25:35] | Cyber-Dogg: | read up :-) |
| [05:25:38] | Cyber-Dogg: | xvmc |
| [05:25:42] | Cyber-Dogg: | I figured it out though |
| [05:25:55] | Cyber-Dogg: | remove the use flag :) yay for gentoo |
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| [05:46:27] | krisb: | trying to find out where in the code JAMU determines what is a movie and what is a TV series |
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| [05:51:40] | iamlindoro: | It determines it the same way MythVideo does, by filename |
| [05:51:57] | iamlindoro: | ie $title s##e## subtitle.ext versus title.ext |
| [05:52:07] | krisb: | yeah I figured as much, but I'm struggling to find where in the code it is so I can hack it |
| [05:52:10] | kormoc: | hrm |
| [05:52:14] | iamlindoro: | You can't |
| [05:52:21] | kormoc: | does storage groups work with mythvideo's scanner right now? |
| [05:52:21] | krisb: | since it seems to think movies with year in the filname are series |
| [05:52:33] | iamlindoro: | mythvideo does the assignment of what's a series or movie |
| [05:52:38] | iamlindoro: | not Jamu |
| [05:52:39] | krisb: | oh |
| [05:52:44] | iamlindoro: | kormoc, Yes |
| [05:52:48] | kormoc: | hrm |
| [05:53:00] | kormoc: | it's not for me, I wonder why... |
| [05:53:05] | iamlindoro: | kormoc, What are you seeing? |
| [05:53:20] | iamlindoro: | and to head off the same runaround from the other day-- are you in flat file mode? |
| [05:53:26] | kormoc: | it only scans the first dir in the list |
| [05:53:28] | iamlindoro: | erm file browse mode, that is |
| [05:53:29] | kormoc: | hrm |
| [05:53:53] | iamlindoro: | kormoc, Ah, that I don't know about-- I only have one-- it *should* do multiple, but I haven't evr tested that |
| [05:54:15] | iamlindoro: | and never mind about the other stuff I was asking, I though you might have the same issue as Janne from the other day |
| [05:54:39] | wagnerrp: | im trying to update a year and a half old gentoo install |
| [05:54:50] | wagnerrp: | im starting to think i should just start from scratch |
| [05:54:55] | wagnerrp: | im going to have to rebuilt the entire system |
| [05:55:06] | kormoc: | ahh, there we go |
| [05:55:13] | kormoc: | had to bounce the frontend |
| [05:56:16] | krisb: | iamlindoro: any idea where mythvideo does the movie/series check then? |
| [05:56:46] | wagnerrp: | heh... |
| [05:56:56] | iamlindoro: | I should hope so, I wrote it |
| [05:56:58] | krisb: | I always thought the metadata scripts took care of that and added it to the database as either a series or movie |
| [05:57:04] | Cyber-Dogg: | my sound broke again! |
| [05:57:11] | iamlindoro: | krisb, Myth never supported Tv in the DB until last week |
| [05:57:16] | iamlindoro: | in the Video DB, that is |
| [05:57:20] | Cyber-Dogg: | it's got to be realtead to X and not Myth |
| [05:57:24] | Cyber-Dogg: | because it doesn't work in X either |
| [05:57:34] | krisb: | oh.. well JAMU insists on adding everything as TV |
| [05:57:42] | iamlindoro: | no, it doesn't |
| [05:57:52] | iamlindoro: | you need to read the whooooole webpage, carefully. |
| [05:57:56] | iamlindoro: | wiki page, that is |
| [06:08:38] | krisb: | disabled a few of the default regexp's that I don't need |
| [06:09:18] | krisb: | that were causing year to be detected as season/episode numbers |
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| [06:28:51] | krisb: | it works \o/ |
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| [08:10:03] | coolthreads: | watch tv works dvb-s, just choppy playback, all the channels work. |
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| [08:48:17] | ** Dibblah should consider upgrading from 20741... ** | |
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| [09:03:39] | Dibblah: | janneg: I take it you're following http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/br . . . dccbb7acc06c |
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| [09:40:59] | levander: | I'm reading about this tru2way stuff. Does anyone know what a CE company is? |
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| [09:45:09] | AndyCap: | levander: consumer electronics? |
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| [09:52:19] | levander: | AndyCap: ah, good guess, i bet that was it |
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| [09:55:11] | juski: | ffs |
| [09:56:13] | juski: | iamlindoro: accessing my share on wired connection, graphite is only a *bit* slow now :) so the gl bug obviously isn't as serious as it first looked |
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| [10:22:55] | janneg: | Dibblah: no, but the plan for mythtv is to use dsp-enabled ffmpeg instead of TI's dsp-enabled gstreamer |
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| [10:31:23] | Dibblah: | Interesting... |
| [10:36:47] | juski: | not much love for gstreamer in some parts of the world ;-) |
| [10:37:38] | rek: | hi |
| [10:37:59] | rek: | mythtv at the boot keeps wrting on the disk |
| [10:38:10] | rek: | used iotop to see and kill it |
| [10:38:42] | rek: | also...can u help me to use mythtv |
| [10:38:57] | juski: | rek: mythtv is a DVR application. When you're watching, you're *recording*, so the HDD is being accessed |
| [10:39:06] | rek: | no |
| [10:39:13] | rek: | just at the bootg |
| [10:39:34] | rek: | i'm not even able to configure mythtv |
| [10:39:54] | rek: | my mythtv doesn't work |
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| [10:42:29] | laga: | rek: what's in the log file? |
| [10:42:51] | rek: | a lot of things |
| [10:43:01] | ** pat__ chuckles ** | |
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| [13:14:45] | juski: | DLNA no worky in loonix. just use your remote |
| [13:19:50] | AndyCap: | O_o |
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| [14:41:07] | stoth: | will myth compile up against qt4? |
| [14:41:20] | GreyFoxx: | Trunk requires QT4 |
| [14:41:22] | iamlindoro: | trunk is qt4 only, .21 is qt3 only |
| [14:41:23] | stoth: | website makes no mention of 4. |
| [14:41:25] | GreyFoxx: | 0.21-fixes will not |
| [14:41:29] | stoth: | thx |
| [14:41:38] | iamlindoro: | stoth, hey, quick question |
| [14:41:39] | stoth: | anyone tried compiling against qt4 embedded? |
| [14:41:50] | iamlindoro: | stoth, have the HVR-1800 analog fixes made it to the v4l-dvb repo yet? |
| [14:42:00] | stoth: | no. |
| [14:42:07] | stoth: | They're not ready and mauro pushed back. |
| [14:42:13] | iamlindoro: | okay-- should the kernellabs repo work properly w/ myth? |
| [14:42:45] | stoth: | The card will deliver video, but I had a channel change issue. Given the time window I had to look into the issue I ran out of tie. |
| [14:42:50] | iamlindoro: | stoth, Don't know if anyone's tried the embedded version, there may be some mailing list archives about it though |
| [14:44:08] | iamlindoro: | OK, it's always delivered video, but the channel change issue has always been present, that's the one I was hoping the fix had been found for |
| [14:44:52] | stoth: | ahh. I'd never seen it (or tried it). I did make it work correcly with mplayer ://pvr mode as mkrufky suggested was required for myth. |
| [14:46:01] | iamlindoro: | Grumble... I love the people who open tickets for files that don't play, then when asked for logs and samples, go back to the users list with indignant messages about "surely someone else sees this, etc." |
| [14:46:08] | iamlindoro: | just give us the samples, jackass |
| [14:46:08] | stoth: | mplayer successfully changes channels, plays video via the encoder on demand. I was lead to believe that was basically what myth needed, and doing this would largely bring myth support. IN reality when I tested with my, I say (un-be-knownst?) to me, the video hang and/or channel change issue which you have just described. |
| [14:46:35] | stoth: | those kind of tickets tend to fall quickly off anyone's radar. |
| [14:46:47] | iamlindoro: | heh, yep |
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| [14:58:22] | janneg: | stoth: no idea if it compiles against qt embedded, mythtv svn in openembedded compiles against qt4-x11 |
| [14:58:44] | stoth: | iamlindoro: If I only need frontend capabilities on a small embedded device then I can go ahead and --disable-dvb and similar backend type features with zero issues, right? |
| [14:59:12] | stoth: | janneg: thanks. |
| [15:01:50] | janneg: | stoth: probably |
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| [15:19:26] | stoth: | it would appear that at one stage --disable-backend was valid, ignored now. |
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| [15:21:37] | janneg: | stoth: yes, it's only intended to make porting easier |
| [15:22:11] | stoth: | thx |
| [15:31:22] | sphery: | wagnerrp: why the 5050e (65W TDP AMD CPU) disappeared: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103687 and http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103681 |
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| [15:31:54] | sphery: | oh, wait... 5050e was a 45W TDP. nvm |
| [15:40:55] | stoth: | awkward: http://pastebin.com/m36d5f686 |
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| [15:52:18] | wagnerrp: | sphery: yeah, i have a friend who just end up using that 245, rather than waiting for the 5050e to come back in stock |
| [15:54:35] | nighthawk: | what is the most likely cause for choppy video stream from a dvb tuner? (both myth and mplayer) |
| [15:54:47] | wagnerrp: | lack of CPU power |
| [15:55:18] | nighthawk: | vdpau is the same as xv |
| [15:55:29] | wagnerrp: | eh? |
| [15:55:31] | nighthawk: | I was thinking memory bandwith but I have cpu throttling disabled |
| [15:55:56] | wagnerrp: | oh, you might be trying to use the wrong timebase setting |
| [15:56:02] | wagnerrp: | theres some option in the setting somewhere |
| [15:56:10] | wagnerrp: | flips between using audio or video as the time base |
| [15:56:15] | wagnerrp: | if you set it to audio, it can cause problems |
| [15:56:27] | nighthawk: | in the decoder or for the card? |
| [15:56:38] | wagnerrp: | u dibt renenver |
| [15:56:42] | wagnerrp: | i dont remember |
| [15:56:58] | wagnerrp: | (right had was in the wrong place) |
| [15:57:06] | laga: | wagnerrp: i believe 'use video as timebase' will cause more trouble |
| [15:57:41] | nighthawk: | could it be bad signal? I don't know how qam degrades |
| [15:57:52] | wagnerrp: | ah, well i knew it was one way or the other |
| [15:57:58] | wagnerrp: | QAM != DVB |
| [15:58:18] | nighthawk: | I have a comcast feed to clarify |
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| [15:59:54] | nighthawk: | tv and tuner card from same splitter in the basement, but the final leg for the tuner hookup has about 6' of somewhat crummy rg58 |
| [16:00:39] | nighthawk: | I'm trying to narrow down, is it the digital signal input, the tuner card, system settings, or player settings |
| [16:00:48] | wagnerrp: | jerkiness is not a signal issue |
| [16:00:57] | wagnerrp: | with a signal issue, you see digital artifacts |
| [16:01:11] | wagnerrp: | which are very distinguishable from most other forms of errors |
| [16:01:11] | nighthawk: | ok, good that eliminates that |
| [16:02:01] | wagnerrp: | you will see single blocks of wrong color, up to lines of blocks and full areas of the recording of bad color |
| [16:02:42] | nighthawk: | that is what I was thinking but wasn't sure, I've only had digital for a few months so I'm not familiar with all scenarios yet |
| [16:02:47] | wagnerrp: | if it gets worse, you will have a fragment of a frame, and mythtv will pause until if finds another full frame it can start decoding with |
| [16:03:12] | nighthawk: | top says mplayer is running at ~30% cpu |
| [16:03:30] | nighthawk: | so I'm leaning towards memory, bus setting, or driver setting |
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| [16:04:57] | nighthawk: | it seems to degrade over time too |
| [16:05:24] | nighthawk: | now it is running at about .2fps hah |
| [16:05:45] | wagnerrp: | youre not trying to use wireless are you? |
| [16:05:58] | wagnerrp: | a frontend connected over wireless |
| [16:06:46] | nighthawk: | no, I'm using ssh to exec on the htpc, but it is an all in one machine, and mplayer exhibits the same issue |
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| [16:09:54] | nighthawk: | I don't recall this when I tested prior to a recent fedora kernel update, maybe I'll reboot with the old kernel just to rule that out |
| [16:11:04] | nighthawk: | haven't been using the tuner much yet since I'm still slowly building out the device, but it may be worthwhile to regression test any time I change anything, troubleshooting playback isn't the easiest thing in the world |
| [16:11:59] | sphery: | wagnerrp: I almost bought it... Glad I remembered the 5050e was a 45W... I just plugged in my Kill-a-Watt when I started up my 5050e (all-integrated sound/video) system after coming back from travel and found it's using about 86W (with BOINC, therefore, CPU max'ed). Before, with my Sempron 3300 (89W TDP) and its all-integrated mobo, I was pulling about 113W. I /really/ want a 45W CPU for my backends. |
| [16:12:22] | sphery: | I just hope that the 45W CPU's come back--don't care if it's the 5050e or a new AM3 one or what... |
| [16:12:44] | sphery: | oh, and both of those numbers are with an 80 PLUS PSU. |
| [16:13:04] | nighthawk: | sphery, I got a 4850e, 45w is sweet :D |
| [16:13:35] | nighthawk: | heatsink is barely above room temp |
| [16:13:45] | sphery: | Without the 80 PLUS, the Sempron's power usage was about 125W. |
| [16:14:05] | sphery: | yeah... Unfortunately, newegg only has single-core 45W CPU's now. |
| [16:14:17] | sphery: | I want dual-core 45W... |
| [16:14:34] | nighthawk: | really? are they phasing out or just a shortage? |
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| [16:15:01] | sphery: | I haven't found any info that says what's happening. The 5050e (and 4850e) are both marked as "Discontinued" items. |
| [16:15:09] | sphery: | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103298 |
| [16:15:17] | sphery: | er, "Deactivated" |
| [16:15:40] | nighthawk: | deactivated == discontinued? |
| [16:15:57] | nighthawk: | maybe a new sku or line refresh |
| [16:16:52] | sphery: | I was assuming they were phasing them out to get new AM3-/Phenom II-based 45W TDP CPU's, but haven't seen any hard info. |
| [16:17:42] | sphery: | all they have, so far, for Phenom II is 65W and above, though |
| [16:18:43] | nighthawk: | not even listed on amazon anymore |
| [16:19:48] | sphery: | heh, funny that in Phenom II, the dual core Callisto is an 80W TDP, but the "older" Deneb (quad core) and Heka (tri core) have 65W options. |
| [16:20:27] | wagnerrp: | since theres no such thing as a tri-core processor |
| [16:20:35] | wagnerrp: | rather a quadcore with a deactivated core |
| [16:20:42] | wagnerrp: | does that mean you can get 65W quads? |
| [16:21:11] | sphery: | well, they actually have Deneb quad's that show 65W TDP |
| [16:21:45] | nighthawk: | I can't find any info on brisbane production, but it looks like few have them in stock anymore |
| [16:21:52] | sphery: | but, yeah, I've heard that if you're lucky and get a Heka where a functional core was disabled (versus one with a broken core), you can enable the 4th core |
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| [16:23:14] | sphery: | yeah, I'm happy with the 5050e performance for the systems where I want 45W, so I don't want to be forced to go 65W just because they couldn't get newer designs to run stable at low enough power |
| [16:23:37] | stoth: | Hey, I;m looking to add more storage to my backend. Does anyone have a definitive URL showing the current state of seagate drivers (ideally with bad model numbers). Or, is anyone recommending seagate at all these days? |
| [16:23:47] | stoth: | s/drivers/drives/ |
| [16:24:09] | wagnerrp: | the bad firmwares have all been updated |
| [16:24:13] | sphery: | I have a ton of Seagate (I purchase based on cost :). |
| [16:24:17] | wagnerrp: | and current drives *should* be safe |
| [16:24:32] | stoth: | So no problems with the barracudas assuming a certain firmware rev? |
| [16:24:33] | nighthawk: | hi stoth! question: my 2250 is working, but the stream is very choppy, any idea on likely cause? |
| [16:24:35] | wagnerrp: | but some people have just been burned too badly, and will never return |
| [16:24:39] | sphery: | I got a firmware update for my 2 (of 3) with bad firmware. If you get one produced "relatively" recently (within the last year?) you should be good. |
| [16:25:13] | stoth: | nighthawk: try http://www.kernellans.com/hg/~stoth/saa7164-dev then report back. |
| [16:25:21] | stoth: | (ideally via the blog) |
| [16:25:29] | nighthawk: | I am, built it last night |
| [16:25:36] | stoth: | looks great for me. |
| [16:25:46] | nighthawk: | is there updated firmware I need to get seperately? |
| [16:25:54] | wagnerrp: | sphery: the only complaint i have with my seagates is that they are consistently my hottest running frives |
| [16:25:56] | wagnerrp: | drives |
| [16:26:09] | sphery: | yeah, mine run hot, too |
| [16:26:12] | stoth: | nighthawk: No. Step into the linuxtv room and discuss. |
| [16:26:36] | stoth: | What's considered a stable firmware for the seagates now? Anyone know off hand? |
| [16:28:28] | sphery: | I don't remember, and can't find the one I'm using in my log files. |
| [16:29:09] | sphery: | but I know that the firmware I used to update my 2 is not compatible with my 3rd (the one whose firmware wasn't broken) |
| [16:29:47] | stoth: | grr, thanks. I'll gave to wade through a zillion google hits to find a rasonable side. Hmm. maybe wikipedia. |
| [16:30:13] | sphery: | then again, you could just do the "wait and see" approach. :) |
| [16:30:35] | sphery: | I had 2 with bad firmware and--on my Myth system, which doesn't use RAID--/never/ noticed any issues. |
| [16:30:49] | stoth: | lol, wife would kill me if Greys Anatomy wasn't online ;) |
| [16:31:04] | sphery: | I only updated just in case because everyone was talking about it |
| [16:31:20] | wagnerrp: | (just checked...) my seagates are all 100–105F, WDs are ~95F with one up around 105F, samsungs are all under 90F |
| [16:32:01] | stoth: | wagnerrp: wd green or blacks? |
| [16:32:13] | wagnerrp: | probably blacks |
| [16:32:24] | wagnerrp: | theyre all 750s, i dont think WD did greens on them |
| [16:32:43] | sphery: | too bad you didn't ask about this, yesterday, too... newegg had a 15% off sale on all HDD's "while funds last" (and they didn't last this long) |
| [16:32:57] | sphery: | with promo code HDDSALE15 |
| [16:33:13] | wagnerrp: | i have no room left, already 9 drives in the array |
| [16:33:13] | stoth: | I picked up one drive today (cheap hitachi) for a document server. |
| [16:33:25] | stoth: | (via 15% coupon) |
| [16:33:43] | wagnerrp: | anyway, i think theyre all blacks and blues |
| [16:33:58] | sphery: | so you're looking to fix existing seagates, not buy new? |
| [16:34:08] | stoth: | buy new. |
| [16:34:19] | stoth: | I'm actually leaning towards wd's |
| [16:34:23] | wagnerrp: | nope, two blues, one green |
| [16:34:37] | sphery: | Oh... I was going to recommend calling Seagate. They'll ensure you get the right firmware for your specific model. |
| [16:34:47] | stoth: | thx |
| [16:34:49] | wagnerrp: | the green is just under 95F |
| [16:35:14] | sphery: | and though you have to talk to someone to get access to the firmware file, IMHO, it's a /much/ better idea than downloading some random file from the 'net and flashing it to your HDD... |
| [16:35:31] | wagnerrp: | anyway sphery, im not buying any more drives until i start building out a new array with 2TBs |
| [16:35:39] | sphery: | cool. |
| [16:35:39] | wagnerrp: | and the deals on those yesterday were nothing great |
| [16:35:49] | sphery: | I have a couple TB free, still, so I'm not in a hurry to buy. |
| [16:36:02] | wagnerrp: | and that '15% off' sale was up to $10 |
| [16:36:29] | sphery: | Need to get a real mobo, too--with SATA support--rather than using my PCI SATA card (whose firmware stops boot if it probes the HDD's too early) |
| [16:36:31] | wagnerrp: | plus the $10 (i actually thought it was 10%) you get from bing |
| [16:36:49] | sphery: | I ended up disabling quick boot (to get a full mem check) to give the HDD's more time to init |
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| [16:37:39] | sphery: | ah, so it was only 15% on a $67 HDD... So, not so disappointed I missed it. :) |
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| [16:38:18] | wagnerrp: | im actually thinking of selling my raid card, and switching to software with one of those cheap 8/16 port controllers |
| [16:38:20] | XLV: | seagates good firmware is cc1h, and sd1b.. flash the first if you got a hdd with cc1g, or the 2nd if you got a sd** one |
| [16:39:01] | stoth: | XLV: thx |
| [16:39:07] | sphery: | yeah, I have SD1B on my 2 |
| [16:39:41] | sphery: | er, actually, I have SD1A |
| [16:39:48] | XLV: | and here http://www.behardware.com/news/lire/13-03-2009/ some rma data from some large online french store ( not direct rma to manufs ) |
| [16:40:28] | sphery: | so now I wonder what changed from SD1A to SD1B... |
| [16:40:41] | XLV: | i got four 1.5TB cc1h.. so far, so good, bought about a month ago |
| [16:41:20] | sphery: | and SD35 in my other drive |
| [16:41:46] | XLV: | it was the firmware that bricked lots of hdds iirc |
| [16:41:55] | XLV: | fixed stuttering, could brick though |
| [16:42:02] | sphery: | sd1a was? |
| [16:42:38] | XLV: | i think.. |
| [16:43:31] | XLV: | worked ok on others though |
| [16:44:19] | XLV: | idk.. seagate released a whole stream of firmware updates.. i was up to it when i was about to get those 1.5TB.. now i dont remember exactly, you'll need to google it |
| [16:44:41] | sphery: | yeah, doing that now... |
| [16:44:52] | XLV: | http://wotnews.com/like/seagates_sd1a_firmwar . . . udas/388177/ |
| [16:44:57] | sphery: | stoth: http://seagate.custkb.com/seagate/crm/selfser . . . DocId=207931 |
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| [16:45:14] | stoth: | sphery: thx |
| [16:45:28] | wagnerrp: | that old of drives eh? |
| [16:45:34] | sphery: | XLV: mine are 1.5TB's |
| [16:45:41] | wagnerrp: | maybe i should check my 750s |
| [16:45:42] | sphery: | don't know if they're affected |
| [16:46:02] | sphery: | unfortunately they recommend backing up data before applying firmware update |
| [16:46:29] | sphery: | all my data was available after fw update last time, but I'm sure that's only because I did move all my 1TB of recordings before doing it |
| [16:46:32] | wagnerrp: | well the data is already backed up.... buy a lengthy 15hr RAID rebuild |
| [16:46:49] | sphery: | if I don't this time (now that I have about 3TB across the 3 drives), I'm sure I'll lose something |
| [16:47:28] | nighthawk: | my first TB drive was in my htpc build in may, it is amazing how fast it fills up... TB is the new GB :( |
| [16:47:41] | sphery: | yeah |
| [16:48:21] | nighthawk: | tho newegg has a 1.5tb green for 120$ :D |
| [16:48:22] | sphery: | I'm working on my exabyte storage array... |
| [16:48:31] | wagnerrp: | firmware is reading... '3.AAE' and '3.AAK' |
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| [16:48:35] | wagnerrp: | that cant be right |
| [16:48:41] | sphery: | by working, I mean, I'm trying to earn enough money that one day I can actually afford it :) |
| [16:48:52] | XLV: | wagnerrp, those are even older models |
| [16:49:12] | XLV: | i got some of those too.. some 320 and 500 7200.11 |
| [16:49:15] | sphery: | yeah, the firmwares he was quoting were for Baracude 7200.11's |
| [16:49:21] | sphery: | cuda, that is |
| [16:49:22] | nighthawk: | it is exabyte>petabyte right? |
| [16:49:26] | XLV: | they arent affected |
| [16:49:29] | wagnerrp: | nighthawk: yes |
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| [16:49:42] | sphery: | TB -> PB -> EB |
| [16:50:00] | wagnerrp: | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exa- |
| [16:50:03] | nighthawk: | thats getting close to astrophysics numbers :P |
| [16:50:14] | wagnerrp: | eh? |
| [16:50:19] | sphery: | PB = 10^15 and EB = 10^18 |
| [16:50:37] | nighthawk: | i mean it is a great deal of data |
| [16:51:20] | wagnerrp: | figure a moderate data center has petabytes of data |
| [16:51:22] | clever: | what if you hooked up 8 multirec cards at once |
| [16:51:25] | sphery: | "Billiard"? |
| [16:51:30] | wagnerrp: | larger ones are probably running close to exabytes |
| [16:51:33] | nighthawk: | a few more orders of magnitude and you're at "first one with a neutron star datastore for their backend wins" |
| [16:51:34] | clever: | and tried to record every channel 24/7 |
| [16:51:42] | clever: | how long till you fill the new beast :P |
| [16:51:55] | ** sphery wonders if that means that playing a game of pool involves 10^15 of something ** | |
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| [16:52:08] | nighthawk: | wagnerrp, true, but in consumer space it is fairly huge |
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| [16:52:53] | wagnerrp: | well you ARE looking at ~$100M in disk space alone |
| [16:52:55] | sphery: | wonder how much google has |
| [16:53:07] | clever: | sphery: google stores the databases in ram |
| [16:53:11] | nighthawk: | some site had an esitmate of internet accessible data recently, can't recall who |
| [16:53:17] | wagnerrp: | clever: no they dont |
| [16:53:38] | sphery: | pretty sure they wouldn't be doing that with GMail |
| [16:53:39] | nighthawk: | google uses consumer sata drives, they have the best statistical measurements going |
| [16:54:03] | clever: | wagnerrp: the google.com search db, is mainly in ram with the backup on disk |
| [16:54:06] | nighthawk: | one of the hardware sites had an article on it |
| [16:54:26] | sphery: | and they use a custom-designed filesystem that's currently undergoing a major shift (to Google File System 2) |
| [16:54:33] | wagnerrp: | there is a comparatively small amount of processed data for the search algorithms to use sitting in memory |
| [16:54:41] | wagnerrp: | all the web cache stays on the disk |
| [16:54:42] | clever: | wagnerrp: http://hackaday.com/2009/04/11/googles-servers-revealed/ |
| [16:55:00] | nighthawk: | are there any documentaries on google tech available? that would be some geek porn worth watching |
| [16:55:13] | clever: | nighthawk: just posted the link |
| [16:55:23] | wagnerrp: | like sphery said, if everything were in memory, what would be the purpose of putting millions of man hours into GFS |
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| [16:55:48] | sphery: | maybe it's a ramdisk :) |
| [16:56:03] | nighthawk: | that has a youtube vid on the blackbox, but is there something about their general search farm? |
| [16:56:04] | XLV: | http://seagate.custkb.com/seagate/crm/selfser . . . &Hilite= thats the last and most conclusive kb article from seagate.. |
| [16:56:10] | clever: | i also stumbled across http://hackaday.com/2008/09/05/welcome-to-the-petacenter/ |
| [16:56:14] | ** sphery sees 2 HDD in that picture ** | |
| [16:56:50] | wagnerrp: | what are those red and black leads bolted to the right side of the case? |
| [16:56:54] | clever: | sphery: they have many of those small systems on a rack, being used together |
| [16:56:59] | clever: | wagnerrp: battery backup |
| [16:57:12] | nighthawk: | nice, that second one's photo looks like out of a james cameron movie |
| [16:57:17] | wagnerrp: | each system has its own battery? |
| [16:57:23] | clever: | wagnerrp: yes |
| [16:57:26] | wagnerrp: | or they run to independent AC and DC power systems? |
| [16:57:33] | wagnerrp: | seems rather costly.... |
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| [16:57:37] | clever: | i think every system has its own battery |
| [16:57:44] | sphery: | Is that using a DC->DC PSU? |
| [16:57:53] | wagnerrp: | sphery: looks like a dual mode |
| [16:57:55] | clever: | 'This may add a little money in the initial cost of the unit, but apparently it is a much more efficient way of handling power' |
| [16:58:00] | clever: | sphery: most likely |
| [16:58:01] | nighthawk: | they probably buy bulk car batteries :P |
| [16:58:02] | wagnerrp: | each PSU acts as a UPS |
| [16:58:07] | sphery: | so on the left is the AC->DC PSU? |
| [16:58:07] | rek: | hi |
| [16:58:13] | rek: | i have some problems |
| [16:58:19] | rek: | do u use ubuntu? |
| [16:58:35] | wagnerrp: | because you can see the standard NEMA cable running out the far left side of the PSU |
| [16:58:35] | clever: | sphery: there is probly a single massive and high efficency ac->dc psu for the whole group of systems |
| [16:58:37] | sphery: | I'd think they could do much better with DC->DC with such a large installation... |
| [16:58:49] | rek: | what's a upnp backend ? |
| [16:58:58] | wagnerrp: | the backend is the backend |
| [16:59:11] | wagnerrp: | if you have a network accessible IP set for the master backend |
| [16:59:16] | wagnerrp: | it will enable the UPNP server |
| [16:59:21] | sphery: | rek: if you mean it's saying that no UPnP backends found, it just means you have to manually specify the master backend IP address |
| [16:59:33] | wagnerrp: | which is a (semi) standard interface for 3rd devices to connect to |
| [16:59:34] | nighthawk: | I have read some datacenters are migrating to DC->DC |
| [16:59:36] | wagnerrp: | 3rd party |
| [16:59:38] | sphery: | rek: the UPnP is used to autodiscover the backend if you configure the backend to allow that |
| [16:59:39] | rek: | can i use lifeview hybrid with hardy with mythtv ? |
| [17:00:04] | rek: | yep sphery help i have really a lot of eerrors and i'm not so expert |
| [17:00:11] | wagnerrp: | nighthawk: you can get DC-DC transformers running at >96% efficiency |
| [17:00:18] | sphery: | rek: chances are those errors aren't errors |
| [17:00:19] | rek: | what does backend mean? |
| [17:00:27] | sphery: | rek: just fill in the info and all will be good |
| [17:00:34] | wagnerrp: | rek: check the Executive Overview page on the wiki |
| [17:00:42] | nighthawk: | wagnerrp, the only argument against it I read was "you can't let go" |
| [17:00:46] | sphery: | rek: it should be asking you for information when you start up mythtv-setup (as the user who runs mythbackend) |
| [17:00:50] | rek: | sphery ..i really hop...to manage to do this |
| [17:00:57] | wagnerrp: | you should read that, as you seem to have no understanding of how mythtv works |
| [17:01:01] | nighthawk: | but I don't think it is unreasonable to have properly trained techs in a datacenter... |
| [17:01:12] | wagnerrp: | nighthawk: you cant let go? |
| [17:01:27] | clever: | sphery: 'I think the industry should move to 12v input only motherboards. As the Cnet article mentions it is only $2 more for the motherboard components, and then PSU’s can drop dramatically in price.' |
| [17:01:31] | rek: | sphery .. i told him all the info am i doing smth wrong? |
| [17:01:42] | nighthawk: | if you grab a live surface |
| [17:01:43] | wagnerrp: | oh, the whole DC seizes you up to the bus, AC knocks you back thing? |
| [17:01:52] | nighthawk: | yeah, old edison vs tesla argument |
| [17:02:13] | wagnerrp: | there are ways you can make it safe |
| [17:02:22] | wagnerrp: | i mean things like blade racks are all DC internally |
| [17:02:36] | wagnerrp: | and thats going to be running several kV |
| [17:02:40] | wagnerrp: | err.. kW |
| [17:02:40] | rek: | lso at the boot of ubuntu mythtv starts and i must do sudo kill number beccause it destroy your hard disk! |
| [17:02:41] | clever: | wagnerrp: 12v dc isnt enough to break the resistance in the skin, enless your hands are sweaty |
| [17:02:48] | sphery: | nice... I'm starting to be happy I went with 80 PLUS PSU's instead of a DC->DC solution with deep-cycle batteries in an online UPS mode |
| [17:02:54] | rek: | ? |
| [17:03:02] | nighthawk: | it was mostly handwaving, I think it makes obvious sense to eliminate conversions where possible |
| [17:03:06] | sphery: | Living alone, I could get stuck to my computer forever... |
| [17:03:07] | wagnerrp: | clever: true, but you dont use 12V, you use something higher like 48V |
| [17:03:12] | rek: | yep 50 volt are enought |
| [17:03:37] | wagnerrp: | you have to run a MASSIVE amount of amperage through your bus bars for 12V |
| [17:03:55] | rek: | what are u doing? |
| [17:04:06] | clever: | wagnerrp: ahh |
| [17:04:11] | rek: | hei |
| [17:04:21] | sphery: | rek: we'd need specific log files from running each component to tell you specifics, but really, start with reading the http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Executive_Overview |
| [17:04:28] | laga: | rek: ubuntu does what? |
| [17:04:37] | rek: | mythtv writes on the hd ven if i do nothing |
| [17:04:40] | clever: | another posible use for the onboard battery backup, is that you can unplug the whole system and move it, without powering down |
| [17:04:48] | rek: | i do sudo kill mmythtv |
| [17:04:49] | wagnerrp: | clever: each server would be running 20–40 amps |
| [17:05:12] | laga: | rek: yeah, killing mythtv won't help because there is no 'mythtv' process running |
| [17:05:21] | rek: | ti need some people that help e |
| [17:05:28] | rek: | it's not so simple |
| [17:05:42] | rek: | sudo kill number |
| [17:05:48] | rek: | i did sudoo iotop |
| [17:05:57] | wagnerrp: | what are you trying to kill? |
| [17:05:59] | clever: | thats a new tool:D |
| [17:06:03] | rek: | to discover the pid of course |
| [17:06:27] | clever: | i just use /proc/sys/vm/block_dump to find that info |
| [17:06:36] | rek: | ? |
| [17:06:49] | rek: | why does it do that? |
| [17:06:56] | clever: | if you write a 1 to that, the kernel will dump every single disk read/write to printk and the system log |
| [17:07:07] | wagnerrp: | sounds... painful |
| [17:07:09] | rek: | dunno |
| [17:07:21] | clever: | wagnerrp: its what ive allways used to track the io load down |
| [17:07:32] | rek: | help or i'll install mythbuntu |
| [17:07:48] | [Peter]_: | is that a threat? :) |
| [17:07:54] | clever: | lol |
| [17:07:59] | rek: | bought lifeview hybrd for 54 euro |
| [17:08:03] | rek: | maybe lol |
| [17:08:09] | rek: | hybrid* |
| [17:08:20] | rek: | and this....keyboard |
| [17:08:31] | rek: | so |
| [17:08:38] | sphery: | rek: using mythbuntu would be a /very/ good way to get Myth |
| [17:08:41] | rek: | now i'll paste something |
| [17:08:54] | rek: | ok but i have ubuntu |
| [17:09:41] | clever: | wagnerrp: acording to the scripts i made to use blockdump, most of the io load is mythbackend |
| [17:09:42] | sphery: | As I see it, the difference between Ubuntu + MythTV and MythBuntu is that with Ubuntu + MythTV, you have to reconfigure all of Ubuntu to work with MythTV. With MythBuntu, you just get Ubuntu already configured like you need it to run MythTV. |
| [17:09:48] | clever: | i forgot i even had it running on this box... |
| [17:10:11] | sphery: | rek: so, really, if you want MythTV--and especially if you're just getting started--you probably should be using MythBuntu |
| [17:10:13] | clever: | must be an old log entry |
| [17:10:32] | rek: | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/253739/ |
| [17:10:51] | sphery: | otherwise you have to learn all sorts of things like how to completely get disable PulseAudio, how to ensure your network is started before mythbackend starts, how to ... |
| [17:11:14] | rek: | sphery i hop to find some expert in this chan in order to set it right in 6 minutes |
| [17:11:17] | sphery: | but the hard part is learning that you have to learn them--i.e. figuring out what in the default configuration of Ubuntu will not work with MythTV |
| [17:11:25] | clever: | i'm network booting, if the network is down before mythtv starts, the laws of the universe are being broken :P |
| [17:12:01] | sphery: | rek: I seriously doubt you could even explain what's wrong in 6 minutes--just because there's so much variability possible. |
| [17:12:09] | rek: | ok 30 min |
| [17:12:13] | rek: | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/253739/ |
| [17:12:47] | sphery: | rek: did you even read that? 2009-08–15 19:10:02.668 Fatal Error: Audio not configured, you need to run 'mythfrontend', not 'mythtv'. |
| [17:13:14] | sphery: | 2009-08–15 19:10:02.232 Could not open settings file /home/riccardo/.mythtv/mysql.txt for writing |
| [17:13:19] | [Peter]_: | sphery: he made the same mistake yesterday and was told to run mythfrontend :) |
| [17:13:21] | rek: | sure |
| [17:13:27] | sphery: | 2 problems in the order they need to be fixed |
| [17:13:40] | rek: | [Peter]_: again... i did it |
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| [17:13:51] | [Peter]_: | rek: so why did you go back to running mythtv? |
| [17:13:55] | rek: | sure sphery tried that |
| [17:13:56] | laga: | rek: yeah, as we can see from the logs :) |
| [17:14:34] | rek: | [Peter]_: le cose si iniziano dall'inizio .... u can't beging narrating things from the end like a film |
| [17:14:59] | [Peter]_: | okay. |
| [17:15:12] | rek: | laga...this is the first paste ..... it's not funny |
| [17:15:31] | rek: | i'm waiting u disuss about th output |
| [17:15:32] | laga: | rek: depends. :) |
| [17:15:57] | rek: | so sphery what could we do |
| [17:16:02] | sphery: | rek: the only 2 errors are the ones I pointed out |
| [17:16:17] | sphery: | fix them and--if you get other errors after doing so--fix them |
| [17:16:17] | rek: | ok so what could we do |
| [17:16:30] | rek: | hw c i fix em |
| [17:16:32] | sphery: | run mythfrontend as the user who should run mythfrontend\ |
| [17:16:44] | sphery: | or, install a properly configured distro :) |
| [17:16:49] | rek: | what? |
| [17:16:57] | laga: | i assume he'd need to run mythtv-setup first |
| [17:17:04] | sphery: | http://www.mythbuntu.org/ |
| [17:17:08] | rek: | no |
| [17:17:16] | rek: | i ary h da cd |
| [17:17:18] | laga: | rek: go read a good book on linux, then go read the documentation for mythtv. or try mythbuntu and read their documentation |
| [17:17:32] | laga: | and try to spell properly, it's an insult to those trying to help you |
| [17:18:54] | rek: | sphery if u want i query u... i don't want to discuss here i'm offended damaged |
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| [17:19:49] | rek: | if u don't want to help someone just don't write... |
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| [17:36:31] | juski: | we're in the business of helping people who are willing to TRY things themselves. we can't take you through every single step |
| [17:36:53] | laga: | especially when you have problems thousands of other people had before |
| [17:37:04] | laga: | and their solutions are well-documented |
| [17:38:22] | juski: | he came in here yesterday with exactly the same problems, said there was 'lots of stuff' in the logs & left it at that. Without anything to go on, nobody can help |
| [17:38:36] | laga: | (i thought that was hilarious) |
| [17:41:50] | linxeh: | hi there, has anyone managed to get the imon/soundgraph lcd 15c2:0038 version working with jaunty 64bit? I've been going mad with various guides and getting nowhere. at the moment I just want to get the remote control working (I figure that's easier) then move on to the lcd, but I don't see anything from irw or mode2 using the device |
| [17:43:06] | juski: | if mode2 isn't working at all I think that'd rather point to the driver not working |
| [17:43:50] | rek: | what |
| [17:44:08] | rek: | juski is quite simple |
| [17:44:20] | juski: | I am not quite simple |
| [17:44:23] | linxeh: | juski: well, it opens the device and waits, but doesnt print anything (so I guess that means it is working?) |
| [17:44:25] | juski: | I'm complicated |
| [17:44:27] | rek: | i saw |
| [17:45:10] | rek: | juski haha so ask something to me |
| [17:45:35] | laga: | rek: http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
| [17:47:13] | rek: | read |
| [17:47:15] | juski: | ok then. Why are you not listening to the advice you have already been given?! |
| [17:47:33] | rek: | what advice? |
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| [18:00:07] | juski: | rek: 1. your database is not configured, or you have a library missing 2. you run *mythfrontend* not 'mythtv'. It seems obvious you've not read any documentation because no docs tell you to start mythfrontend with 'mythtv' |
| [18:00:59] | wagnerrp: | i said that before when he didnt know what 'mythbackend' was |
| [18:01:51] | juski: | you will actually SAVE TIME by stopping what you are doing and reading some documentation |
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| [18:02:20] | wagnerrp: | start with the executive overview on the wiki, to get an idea where all the pieces fit |
| [18:02:32] | wagnerrp: | then go onto the documentation where it describes how to put all those pieces in place |
| [18:03:36] | wagnerrp: | yeah, i did say that an hour ago |
| [18:07:32] | wagnerrp: | buy 2 get 2 free bluray on the WB shop |
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| [18:08:28] | sphery: | oooh... Supernatural would be worth it. Maybe Smallville. |
| [18:09:59] | wagnerrp: | nah, not really |
| [18:10:08] | wagnerrp: | seems movies are all mid 20s each |
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| [18:10:29] | wagnerrp: | you can find better final prices on amazon without any special deals |
| [18:10:51] | sphery: | I didn't get to see prices... "SOFTWARE DETECT\nYou do not have the most current version of Flash." meaning, "We don't have a web site. We have a Flash site. If you don't use the proprietary technology we feel the entire world should use, you are not worthy to see our site." |
| [18:10:55] | wagnerrp: | nevermind... the default on that side is 'price – high to low' |
| [18:11:04] | wagnerrp: | heh |
| [18:11:26] | wagnerrp: | i got the 'you cannot view our side because you do not have javascript enabled |
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| [18:11:46] | wagnerrp: | seems the low end is $12.50 |
| [18:11:50] | sphery: | was it really disabled or just a "we thought that a browser as old as 3.x was too old"? |
| [18:11:58] | wagnerrp: | no, it was disabled |
| [18:12:28] | wagnerrp: | theres only one page of $12.50 movies, the rest are all $20 and up |
| [18:12:41] | sphery: | so none of the TV, though? |
| [18:13:07] | sphery: | I'm not even positive that Supernatural and Smallville are even WB's but I was thinking they were |
| [18:13:18] | kormoc: | Smallville is |
| [18:13:27] | sphery: | Guess I could start my flash-enabled (crashable) firefox process |
| [18:13:35] | wagnerrp: | smallville is 'CW' |
| [18:13:39] | wagnerrp: | is that CBS + WB? |
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| [18:14:02] | sphery: | yeah, but don't know if they actually own the TV stuff |
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| [18:14:39] | kormoc: | smallville started on WB |
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| [18:15:01] | wagnerrp: | 'Harold & Kumar Unrated'.... |
| [18:15:08] | wagnerrp: | now i only ever saw the TV version |
| [18:15:21] | sphery: | there's still a thewb.com website |
| [18:15:28] | kormoc: | even more bad CG cheetahs? |
| [18:15:29] | wagnerrp: | but i dont recall anywhere in that that movie where there even COULD be some 'unrated' content |
| [18:15:39] | kormoc: | the topless girls? |
| [18:15:42] | wagnerrp: | unless they added some entire scenes |
| [18:17:17] | kormoc: | Malin Akerman is topless in the first Harold and Kumar movie |
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| [18:18:02] | tzanger: | good afternoon... I feel a little stupid for asking, but I cannot find it in the wiki or even with some rudimentary google searching... what's the anonymous svn url to grab mythtv? |
| [18:18:09] | sphery: | which site has the deal? http://www.wbshop.com/ |
| [18:18:26] | wagnerrp: | yeah, directions are on the front page on slickdeals.net |
| [18:18:34] | tzanger: | nevermind, found it |
| [18:18:34] | kormoc: | tzanger: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ |
| [18:18:54] | tzanger: | kormoc: no, that's to use trac to look through the repo, I was refering to pulling it down |
| [18:19:10] | kormoc: | tzanger: "Welcome to the MythTV Trac server ? |
| [18:19:10] | kormoc: | Stable: If you'd like to get the 0.21 stable branch, do this: " |
| [18:19:28] | kormoc: | and then the entire command line you need to copy and paste into a terminal to get it |
| [18:19:56] | kormoc: | and then the same thing for trunk |
| [18:20:16] | kormoc: | so no, you're wrong about that |
| [18:20:24] | tzanger: | kormoc: ahh, my apologies |
| [18:20:33] | tzanger: | I grabbed the contrib directory now, thank you |
| [18:20:49] | tzanger: | has anyone in here used myth's 1394 implementation with Rogers Cable (in Ontario, Canada) ? |
| [18:20:55] | kormoc: | It's not like I should know or anything, I only work with it every few days... |
| [18:20:58] | tzanger: | there are some reports on the wiki but they're fairly old |
| [18:21:01] | tzanger: | kormoc: :-) |
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| [18:28:01] | wagnerrp: | kormoc: now i remember that scene... the one with the creepy tow truck driver |
| [18:28:08] | sphery: | wagnerrp: could you make it work? It seems that they may have accidentally allowed that and have fixed the site since. One is "Blu-ray Ecommerce Email: Buy 2 BD, get 1 Free. 0809" and the other is "Red2Blu Customers Buy 2 Get 1 Free Coupon". Seems they won't let you stack them, anymore. |
| [18:28:31] | sphery: | You'd have to buy 4 to get 2 instead of buy 2 get 2 |
| [18:28:37] | wagnerrp: | ah, no idea |
| [18:28:47] | wagnerrp: | didnt actually look at it that closely |
| [18:29:10] | sphery: | Yeah, I probably won't do it since they don't have 4 seasons of Supernatural (only S3 and S4) on BD |
| [18:29:23] | sphery: | (actually S4 is pre-order) |
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| [18:30:28] | wagnerrp: | looks like time for another hddvdboxsets run |
| [18:31:39] | wagnerrp: | problem is i too often just end up rebuying movies i have on dvd |
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| [18:44:34] | eljefe_: | hey guys, anybody know if I can bind mouse clicks in myth? |
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| [18:53:06] | wagnerrp: | and here i am again.. shipping as much as the actual movies |
| [18:53:41] | mindoms1: | im trying to help rek now. like the blind leading the blind... how to determine/set the password of the mythtv user in the database? |
| [18:54:08] | wagnerrp: | the password is encrypted, if you dont know it and it is not written down, it is lost |
| [18:54:16] | wagnerrp: | but... chances are, it is 'mythtv' |
| [18:54:28] | wagnerrp: | or you can set you own new password |
| [18:54:45] | mindoms1: | np, we have the root password. just need to set/recover the password for the user mythtv |
| [18:54:51] | wagnerrp: | "grant all on mythconverg.* to 'mythtv'@'localhost' identified by '<whatever password>'" |
| [18:54:54] | rek: | wagnerrp: it is in mysql.txt that password |
| [18:55:18] | wagnerrp: | rek: actually, it is in ~/.mythtv/config.xml |
| [18:55:22] | wagnerrp: | but then only if you put it there |
| [18:55:32] | wagnerrp: | (or otherside your distro's installer put it there) |
| [18:55:38] | wagnerrp: | s/otherside/otherwise/ |
| [18:55:58] | mindoms1: | ubuntu puts it in .mythtv/mysql.txt. but i think that one is wrong |
| [18:56:11] | wagnerrp: | nothing should be using mysql.txt anymore |
| [18:56:19] | wagnerrp: | anywhere |
| [18:56:39] | mindoms1: | well... ubuntu does. but ill check |
| [18:56:40] | rek: | also the hdd works always |
| [18:56:47] | rek: | does yes |
| [18:56:49] | rek: | u right |
| [18:56:54] | rek: | i read some info |
| [18:57:01] | wagnerrp: | ubuntu does not use mysql.txt, at least it should not |
| [18:57:08] | rek: | i pasted the correct mysql |
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| [18:59:22] | mindoms1: | well. my setup is using it. ubuntu 9.04. |
| [18:59:22] | mindoms1: | .mythtv/mysql.txt is a symlink to /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt |
| [18:59:22] | mindoms1: | just tryed by using a wrong password |
| [18:59:34] | wagnerrp: | mysql.txt is nothing |
| [18:59:46] | wagnerrp: | it is merely kept around for old scripts that have not been updated |
| [19:00:00] | wagnerrp: | config.xml is the correct place to make these changes |
| [19:00:32] | mindoms1: | my mythfrontend refuses to connect when a wrong PW is set in mysql.txt. ... just checked that |
| [19:01:03] | wagnerrp: | well then youre using an old version |
| [19:01:19] | wagnerrp: | because myth should ONLY try to read that file if a config.xml does not exist |
| [19:04:34] | mindoms1: | mythfrontend --version: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/253782/ |
| [19:04:34] | mindoms1: | and config.xml does exist ... |
| [19:08:14] | eljefe_: | Anybody know how to bind mouse-clicks to myth? |
| [19:08:18] | Wicked: | i use ubuntu also and it does seem to still use mysql.txt |
| [19:08:37] | Wicked: | i had issues with mysql.txt a few weeks back |
| [19:08:55] | sphery: | if $HOME/.mythtv/config.xml doesn't exist, mysql.txt is used--regardless of distro |
| [19:09:55] | wagnerrp: | ugh... still $12 for Kiss Kiss Bang Bang |
| [19:09:59] | wagnerrp: | it just keeps going up in price |
| [19:10:12] | sphery: | the biggest problem with mysql.txt is that there tend to be multiple on your system, so users often don't know which they're using |
| [19:10:21] | sphery: | if you use config.xml, it's /always/ $HOME/.mythtv/config.xml |
| [19:10:34] | Wicked: | ah |
| [19:10:42] | sphery: | So using config.xml is preferred. |
| [19:10:51] | wagnerrp: | that env redirect doesnt work for config.xml? |
| [19:11:08] | sphery: | yeah, but it's not meant to be used by users :) |
| [19:11:18] | sphery: | it's an undocumented development feature |
| [19:11:29] | wagnerrp: | doesnt mean the ubuntu wrappers arent using it |
| [19:11:58] | sphery: | but, technically, $MYTHCONFDIR/config.xml is /always/ used, where if MYTHCONFDIR isn't defined, MYTHCONFDIR defaults to $HOME/.mythtv |
| [19:12:50] | sphery: | if a distro is using it, we need to get them to fix it |
| [19:13:36] | sphery: | (as it's no harder to export HOME than to export MYTHCONFDIR if they want to change the dir used--only difference being with HOME they're stuck with .mythtv under it) |
| [19:14:01] | gbee: | load average: 14.54, 8.30, 4.08 |
| [19:14:13] | sphery: | nice... what's happening there? |
| [19:14:19] | wagnerrp: | NFS issues? |
| [19:14:34] | sphery: | or 20 concurrent H.264 transcodes? |
| [19:14:45] | sphery: | (actually, probably wouldn't take that many :) |
| [19:15:11] | wagnerrp: | all you would need were 20 slices in one transcode |
| [19:15:20] | gbee: | sphery: just running mtd to rip a DVD >:/ |
| [19:15:27] | sphery: | wow |
| [19:15:33] | wagnerrp: | well that certainly sounds broken |
| [19:15:35] | sphery: | transcoding, though, not an ISO rip |
| [19:16:14] | sphery: | I'm guessing, that is |
| [19:16:16] | mindoms1: | /usr/bin/mythfrontend doesnt even mention a config.xml. i guess this is the wrapper... |
| [19:16:43] | gbee: | sphery: ISO rip :) |
| [19:16:45] | sphery: | mindoms1: config.xml's usage is coded into Myth |
| [19:16:56] | sphery: | yeah, that's gotta be a bug... |
| [19:17:20] | gbee: | weird thing is that mtd's cpu usage isn't excessive, nothing in top is, so I suspect it's more kernel related |
| [19:17:39] | wagnerrp: | if you opened mythfrontend in a text editor and there is anything legible there, yes... you are looking at the wrapper script |
| [19:17:51] | sphery: | there was a change 4 days ago to use different args: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/changeset/21222/tr . . . ythvideo/mtd |
| [19:18:24] | sphery: | might want to check your transcode program to see if it supports -1 and/or --color |
| [19:18:44] | sphery: | though that should only be used on transcoded ones, not rips |
| [19:18:56] | mindoms1: | wagner. right |
| [19:19:35] | gbee: | heh, now Opera has gone zombie on me |
| [19:19:47] | sphery: | OOM killer? |
| [19:20:01] | wagnerrp: | 'one system was set up running a bunch of DX11 SDKs and the other was running a demo for the upcoming shooter Wolfenstein' |
| [19:20:02] | sphery: | only other recent mtd change is http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/changeset/21130 |
| [19:20:12] | wagnerrp: | are you serious??? theyre remaking that game AGAIN? |
| [19:20:26] | sphery: | wonder if it will be 4D this time... |
| [19:20:42] | wagnerrp: | you mean like prince of persia, where you have control over time? |
| [19:21:08] | sphery: | I'm waiting for the string-theory compatible 11D version |
| [19:21:37] | wagnerrp: | in this iteration of Wolfenstein, your character can move seamlessly between multiple branes |
| [19:21:48] | gbee: | actually, might just be I/O, ripping to the same drive as the system (long story) |
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| [19:22:14] | sphery: | that was his IRC client dying... |
| [19:22:21] | wagnerrp: | our hero's name is now B.J. Beckett |
| [19:22:27] | kormoc: | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfenstein_%28video_game%29 |
| [19:23:11] | kormoc: | B.J. Blazkowicz actually |
| [19:23:30] | wagnerrp: | im referring to sphery's 11D version |
| [19:23:46] | wagnerrp: | and a reference to Quantum Leap.... |
| [19:23:49] | sphery: | Quantum Leap reference? |
| [19:23:51] | sphery: | yeah |
| [19:23:57] | kormoc: | Tthe addition of a supernatural realm, called The Veil. While in The Veil the player has access to certain special abilities, such as the power to slow down time, to get around obstacles that exist in the real world, or even to be able to defeat enemies that have an otherwise impenetrable shield. |
| [19:24:13] | sphery: | wow, it is 4D |
| [19:24:39] | sphery: | only 7 to go |
| [19:25:26] | kormoc: | "Raven Software designer Manveer Heir claims that he will personally reimburse anyone who purchases Wolfenstein provided it outsells Madden NFL 10 in August... Days after the offer was made however, Heir pulled his promotion for reasons unknown." |
| [19:25:43] | ** kormoc assumes he realized how much that would cost if it happened ** | |
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| [19:26:35] | wagnerrp: | well their both repeat offenders of remakes |
| [19:26:40] | gbee: | and then X died :) |
| [19:26:51] | wagnerrp: | so i have no idea what kind of sales either might make |
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| [19:27:08] | kormoc: | actually, to be fair, this isn't a remake persay |
| [19:27:13] | wagnerrp: | i cant believe this is only the 10th revision of Madden NFL |
| [19:27:24] | kormoc: | it's a ill named sequel to RTCW |
| [19:27:50] | wagnerrp: | well RTCW technically wasnt a remake of the original |
| [19:28:01] | wagnerrp: | considering the original only had a marginal story line |
| [19:28:06] | wagnerrp: | and was only slightly more than 2D |
| [19:30:38] | kormoc: | it was farily solid 3d if you ignore the crap-tastic sprites for NPCs |
| [19:30:39] | wagnerrp: | oh well, everyone wants new levels of nazi killing |
| [19:31:13] | kormoc: | especially when not only can you kill the nazi, you then can go super natural and kill his ghost as well! |
| [19:31:18] | AndyCap: | assuming we're talking about wolfenstein 3d and not the earlier games |
| [19:31:40] | wagnerrp: | wolf3d was barely 3d |
| [19:31:53] | kormoc: | AndyCap: to be fair, the earlier games weren't owned by ID |
| [19:31:59] | wagnerrp: | the only thing drawn in 3 dimensions were the walls, and they were all the same height |
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| [19:32:30] | kormoc: | meh, the smooth motion movement in the world counts imho |
| [19:32:44] | wagnerrp: | motion was only on a 2D plane |
| [19:33:07] | wagnerrp: | the maps were only 2D |
| [19:33:20] | kormoc: | meh |
| [19:33:25] | kormoc: | it was still solid 3d rendering |
| [19:33:43] | kormoc: | even if you couldn't go up or down, it still looked 3d, which was more then anything else at the time |
| [19:34:01] | AndyCap: | and it was a lot slicker than earlier maze games. |
| [19:35:02] | gbee: | more than anything else decent, there were one or two earlier 3D-esque games |
| [19:35:39] | wagnerrp: | i remember some mid-80s wireframe 3d tank game |
| [19:36:49] | AndyCap: | Elite! |
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| [19:38:15] | wagnerrp: | 'the first enemies found are mutants with third arms grafted onto their chests holding pistols' |
| [19:38:38] | wagnerrp: | i remember those guys, but i never made the leap that was actually an arm holding the gun that was shooting me |
| [19:38:51] | wagnerrp: | it looked like they just had some weird box on their chest |
| [19:41:33] | gbee: | yeah, I only remember 4 enemies from W3D, the aryan SS guys with machine guns, the dogs, the fat blokes with chainguns in their chests and Hitler |
| [19:41:56] | wagnerrp: | hah! it used a specialized form of ray-tracing, where it shot out one ray per column of pixels, whatever wall it hits defines the texture to load for that column |
| [19:42:04] | wagnerrp: | so it really is just 2D rendered |
| [19:42:35] | wagnerrp: | gbee: these guys were in the second levelset, in place of the brown guards |
| [19:42:58] | wagnerrp: | the one where the end boss threw cleavers |
| [19:43:04] | gbee: | hmm, guess I remember the ordinary brown grunts, but not really the mutants |
| [19:43:40] | gbee: | the clever throwing boss I remember now, plus the needle throwing one |
| [19:43:58] | wagnerrp: | i dont remember the needles |
| [19:44:11] | wagnerrp: | i thought the five other bosses all had two or four chainguns |
| [19:45:47] | wagnerrp: | and the white pistol guys |
| [19:46:15] | gbee: | I just remember a boss? throwing hypodermic needles filled with a green liquid |
| [19:46:30] | gbee: | wasn't it the scientist behind the mutants? |
| [19:47:15] | gbee: | "The white-coated Dr Schabbs throws hypodermic syringes filled with a noxious-looking green substance. Although they cause a lot of damage, they are quite easy to avoid. Should you die from them, your on-screen face turns a zombie-like grey colour. Killing Schabbs brings an end to episode two." |
| [19:48:00] | wagnerrp: | they are syringes.... i thought they were cleavers |
| [19:49:26] | gbee: | there is a cleaver wielding boss, but apparently he never throws them, he attacks with a chest mounted weapon |
| [19:49:46] | gbee: | http://wolfenstein.wikia.com/wiki/Ubermutant |
| [19:51:16] | wagnerrp: | i never played SoD |
| [19:52:53] | gbee: | it's all a blur to me |
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| [20:00:43] | gbee: | Dibblah: doesn't give version info either, just a revision |
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| [20:29:25] | gbee: | iamlindoro: might not that playlist stuff done after all, too many other things to do |
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| [20:30:19] | gbee: | but if you look at the logic in PBB you should see how simple it really is, we add the files to a list then iterate through them calling Play() on each |
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| [20:31:56] | android6011: | does the saa7130 chipset do hardware encoding? |
| [20:36:05] | android6011: | nvm |
| [20:38:03] | sphery: | wow... lotta changes this week. almost seems like compiling without a ccache |
| [20:41:11] | mindoms1: | do you know if that analog/DVB PCI-card works in linux? Conexant CX23880/1/2/3 , sold as " lifeview hybrid" |
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| [20:41:53] | sphery: | I know that the Hauppauge HVR-1600 does |
| [20:42:13] | sphery: | and it has good analog with hardware encoder versus the garbage frame grabber most give |
| [20:42:27] | sphery: | though that's ATSC/NTSC |
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| [20:42:46] | sphery: | (if you really need DVB/PAL, I don't know what one to recommend) |
| [20:43:18] | linxeh: | argh! flipping imon/soundgraph 15c2:0038!! |
| [20:43:54] | mindoms1: | kk. thnx. rek got that card... just trying to make it work |
| [20:44:48] | sphery: | have you checked linuxtv.org and linuxtv.org/wiki and/or #linuxtv |
| [20:44:48] | rek: | i have the one with the remote control |
| [20:49:03] | mindoms1: | sure.. but it states "supported", but it doesnt work ootb... http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Conexant_CX2388x so where to look? (my dvb-usb stick worked ootb, so...) |
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| [20:56:30] | mindoms1: | okay. stupid question, sorry. there is a link on that site that says everything |
| [21:05:21] | tzanger: | has anyone in here used myth's 1394 implementation with Rogers Cable (in Ontario, Canada) ? |
| [21:05:24] | tzanger: | there are some reports on the wiki but they're fairly old |
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| [21:09:55] | hachi: | why doesn't inuseprograms have a unique key on chanid-starttime ? |
| [21:11:13] | hachi: | I thought this was supposed to be the locking table, and I don't see any way to know if I won the lock if someone else can just insert a row alongside me |
| [21:11:14] | iamlindoro: | gbee, no worries, I'll look this afternoon |
| [21:14:24] | coolthreads: | day 3 to try and get my dvb going |
| [21:16:42] | coolthreads: | I click watch tv and the channels come up, only that my picture is very blocky and the sound is bad |
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| [21:19:33] | coolthreads: | It shows 97 percent signal and the noice at 75, so It would appear to be my dish as it hasnt been touched since it was used for paytv |
| [21:20:09] | coolthreads: | wouldnt appear to be my dish* |
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| [21:28:46] | hachi: | isn't the test on a dvb card to just read from the device and put the data on disk, and then try to play it with something like ffmpeg? |
| [21:29:20] | hachi: | if that shows up blocky and whatnot, then it's not a mythtv problem... |
| [21:29:49] | hachi: | I've always had good luck just googling for my card model and 'problems' and reading all the stuff people talk about |
| [21:30:10] | hachi: | but I'm not working with dish stuff |
| [21:30:17] | hachi: | I'm just doing ATSC |
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| [21:38:06] | mindoms1: | is there a simple way to enhance the DVB-T signal? i got two different af-9005 usb sticks and about |
| [21:38:39] | mindoms1: | ...maximum 60 % signal, but less most of the time. |
| [21:40:06] | AndyCap: | mindoms1: a better antenna? |
| [21:41:17] | mindoms1: | hm. kind of obvious. but i tried some but it didnt help much... dunno. |
| [21:43:42] | linxeh: | with the card I've got there is some tweak to enable the amplification on the card |
| [21:43:46] | linxeh: | without it you get weak signal |
| [21:44:19] | linxeh: | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=880830 |
| [21:44:35] | linxeh: | maybe you need to seek out the options for the driver for somehting similar |
| [21:46:09] | mindoms1: | thnx. i'll try that |
| [21:51:22] | linxeh: | http://linuxtv.org/hg/v4l-dvb/file/ee300d3178 . . . /dvb/dvb-usb |
| [21:51:27] | linxeh: | might be clues there |
| [21:52:14] | linxeh: | do you know the tuner its using ? |
| [21:54:57] | mindoms1: | hm. its just af9005. thats the name of the module. afaik |
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| [22:00:01] | coolthreads: | thanks hachiand mindoms was sorting out my daughter |
| [22:01:38] | mindoms1: | hm. sorry. i dont understand... |
| [22:01:58] | coolthreads: | yous are talking about dvbs |
| [22:02:25] | mindoms1: | nope, dvb-t ... |
| [22:02:29] | coolthreads: | thats what im am trying to get running properly |
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| [22:03:23] | mindoms1: | i just dont get the "sorting out my daughter" thing |
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| [22:04:16] | linxeh: | mindoms1: presumably he meant changing her, or putting her to bed etc :P |
| [22:04:18] | coolthreads: | well when I asked a question, hachi replied when I was sorting out my daughter, making her bottle |
| [22:04:25] | coolthreads: | yeah |
| [22:05:11] | mindoms1: | ah, okay :) |
| [22:06:29] | coolthreads: | I never knew anything about mythtv up until 2 weeks ago |
| [22:06:38] | iamlindoro: | This is where complete, coherent sentences are quite helpful |
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| [22:11:04] | linxeh: | iamlindoro: thanks for the advice on 9300 boards the other night. I ended up buying a gigabyte 9400 matx board in the end |
| [22:11:13] | hachi: | hi, my name is hachi |
| [22:11:19] | hachi: | and yes, it does get confusing at times :) |
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| [23:18:26] | tzanger: | has anyone in here used myth's 1394 implementation with Rogers Cable (in Ontario, Canada) ? |
| [23:18:29] | tzanger: | there are some reports on the wiki but they're fairly old |
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| [23:41:34] | scan is now known as scan_away | |
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| [23:44:06] | Captain_Murdoch: | Any chance that Eric Bosch is in here? |
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| [23:49:19] | iamlindoro: | Anduin, Since we can now switch to the Video Manager as a view in MythVideo, I would like to remove the menu theme option for it. Think that having it there only encourages misunderstanding of how scans work now-- but I'd like your opinion on it first. |
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| [23:49:43] | iamlindoro: | and by menu theme option, I mean the Utilities/Setup->Video Manager option |
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| [23:58:30] | iamlindoro: | kormoc, Wanted you to know that the reason MENU does nothing on folders was because the only thing a folder item is eligible for in that menu is a DELETE... so for User safety, I disabled it for folders |
| [23:58:41] | kormoc: | gotcha |
| [23:59:05] | kormoc: | yeah, and I think they're backwards compared to other areas of myth? |
| [23:59:20] | iamlindoro: | Now technically speaking I *could* allow the user to to delete a folder.. but I'm uncomfortable with it being two errant keypresses away |
| [23:59:48] | ** kormoc nods ** | |
| [23:59:50] | iamlindoro: | kormoc, well, it's backwards compared to the PBB (which it was modeled after), but I got signals from Gbee the other day that indicated it was the PBB that would be changing |
| [23:59:56] | kormoc: | ooh |
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