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Friday, June 12th, 2009, 00:00 UTC
[00:00:39] juski: think I need to start paying people to make webpages about me so the theme stuff appears way down google's list. or change my name
[00:00:53] juski: I just want to forget
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[00:01:46] darkdrgn2k3: LOL awww
[00:01:56] darkdrgn2k3: for what its worth themes do look awsome..
[00:02:05] juski: s/do/can
[00:02:13] juski: and will come 0.22 :)
[00:02:21] darkdrgn2k3: LOL
[00:02:30] darkdrgn2k3: yes... but thats cause they re-did then UI..
[00:02:35] juski: still, right now they're a way better than UIs on commercial DVRs
[00:02:38] darkdrgn2k3: for what you had to work with..
[00:02:46] darkdrgn2k3: its awsome!
[00:02:52] juski: look at Sky Plus, even Sky HD
[00:03:10] juski: no, it was a bunch of hacks. Very lazily done
[00:03:38] juski: well I say lazily, but drawing graphics is more fun than editing xml & making sure containers don't overlap
[00:04:17] darkdrgn2k3: LOL SO TURE
[00:05:45] juski: actually watching Adam Sandler films is more fun than the latter
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[00:09:17] juski: anyway, back to worrying about my doggy on his first night in kennels
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[00:18:08] ACExTechGeek: well guys who were helping me with myth earlier i finally got it up and running
[00:18:18] ACExTechGeek: thanks for helping
[00:18:31] Lambach: I was told I should come here to find out it the HVR-1600 cards were working.
[00:18:50] ACExTechGeek: im not sure perhaps somone else knows
[00:19:56] Lambach: Congats ace. Don't you love that feeling when everything boot up just right for the first time. Get that bit of glee.
[00:20:02] Lambach: So nice, lol.
[00:20:03] ACExTechGeek: yeah
[00:20:10] ACExTechGeek: ive recorded some stuff now
[00:20:20] ACExTechGeek: turns out i forgot to install mysql and a firmware update
[00:20:44] Lambach: Nice, I
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[00:21:06] Lambach: m at the I have a spare comp pricing projects part.
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[00:21:56] ACExTechGeek: i really like myth now that it works right
[00:22:15] mattwj2002: hi guys I have a simple question
[00:22:27] mattwj2002: how do I change the audio track on mythvideo?
[00:22:48] juski: press M
[00:23:00] Ponty: TGIF
[00:23:06] juski: bring up the menu, then select a different audio track :)
[00:23:27] mattwj2002: m doesn't bring up the menu
[00:23:43] juski: yes it does
[00:23:50] mattwj2002: it mutes it
[00:23:57] juski: unless you're not using the internal player
[00:24:12] juski: which I guess you're not
[00:24:24] juski: so use whatever key mplayer needs to switch audio tracks
[00:24:40] juski: or whatever player you're using which isn't myth's internal player
[00:25:27] mattwj2002: yeah I think it is mplayer
[00:29:26] mattwj2002: I found it
[00:29:42] mattwj2002: in case anyone is wondering # changes the audio tracks in mplayer
[00:29:43] mattwj2002: :)
[00:30:38] juski: what's mplayer? ;-)
[00:30:43] mattwj2002: :P
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[00:37:53] ** iamlindoro grumbles about backgrounds **
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[00:48:15] iamlindoro: http://www.fecitfacta.com/menublah.png
[00:48:19] iamlindoro: blahhhhh stupid menus
[00:49:25] iamlindoro: http://www.fecitfacta.com/menublahgreen.png
[00:49:50] SHADOW_V1: very clean
[00:50:11] iamlindoro: cleanliness borne out of lack of ideas for the menus ;)
[00:50:32] SHADOW_V1: yay
[00:50:39] SHADOW_V1: Thats a start!
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[00:52:41] CoreDump: nice background and font
[00:54:21] iamlindoro: I'll probably go with generic swoopy backgrounds for simplicity's sake, and include instructions on how to change the background (which is a random image from a given directory)
[00:55:30] iamlindoro: blah, haven't touched the theme in ages, it works fine for me, everything left is in making it ready for consumption
[00:59:25] wagnerrp: now you just need to have the submenus scroll up and down from behind those words
[00:59:44] juski: no no no. no lame cross menus please
[01:00:04] wagnerrp: bah, i like the XMB
[01:00:15] juski: you can have it
[01:00:37] wagnerrp: more than the old xbox blade menu, i havent seen their new one
[01:00:52] juski: well, the blades sucked
[01:01:07] juski: MCE has the cross menu. it's awful
[01:01:43] wagnerrp: i tried VMCE a while back, didnt like it much
[01:01:51] wagnerrp: but the sony version works well enough
[01:02:09] juski: hard to see what you've selected and with the font size they used, hard to read on a TV from a reasonable distance too I'd bet
[01:02:23] iamlindoro: I wonder if I'm the only person bothered by the fact that the text in the system status screen is a buttonlist
[01:02:24] juski: seen videos of it. not struck on it, the sony offerring
[01:02:43] juski: iamlindoro: nah, I had designs on ripping it up & doing it properly once
[01:03:03] juski: nice background btw
[01:04:31] iamlindoro: thanks, it was two minutes fumbling around in inkscape, I really have no idea what to do with it
[01:05:27] juski: yeah wanted to pull the expiry list stuff out & make it more like the PBB, among other changes. still do but don't anybody hold their breath
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[01:07:25] juski: maybe have boxes like the miniplayer available to show on any free screen space, containing status info – or indeed the mythical scroller ;-)
[01:08:29] wagnerrp: now heres the big question, if thats two minutes in inkscape, can you script it?
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[01:09:03] juski: it's only xml
[01:09:19] wagnerrp: could you write some macro that changes a couple color, size, and position variables, and generates random swoopy backgrounds
[01:09:35] wagnerrp: similar to the current 'random theme' mode
[01:09:42] juski: myth can't deal in raw xml yet
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[01:09:52] juski: erm svg I mean
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[01:09:58] iamlindoro: http://www.fecitfacta.com/status.png
[01:10:04] iamlindoro: Hmm, that's a little better I guess
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[01:11:16] juski: better than any of my offerings but I don't use that screen
[01:11:23] iamlindoro: one less screen to theme I guess
[01:11:31] iamlindoro: Heh, hardly better :)
[01:11:31] juski: though maybe mostly cos it looks like arse.. catch-22
[01:11:51] iamlindoro: anyway, I have decided I won't be touching mythzonepoop or mytharchive
[01:12:16] juski: the old 'don't use, won't do' :)
[01:13:39] iamlindoro: indeed
[01:15:01] iamlindoro: oh, and netflix
[01:15:30] iamlindoro: MMZM and Netflix should be dumped and mytharchive done over from scratch
[01:15:34] iamlindoro: (IMHO)
[01:16:21] SHADOW_V1: YESS
[01:16:57] juski: thought about mytharchive for five once
[01:17:30] juski: considered using some playlist style gaff from the PBB
[01:17:59] juski: then got a bit deeper in thought & gave up. meh
[01:22:20] wagnerrp: PBB?
[01:22:55] jams: playbackbox
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[01:30:36] juski: as in the 'watch recordings' screen. seemed logical at the time
[01:40:52] juski: well, I have a plane to catch. toodle pip
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[03:35:21] SHADOW_V1: whats the application that gives you a cli that shows you the runtime level and lets you enable/disable programs/daemons
[03:36:24] tank-man: cat and chmod
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[03:37:48] SHADOW_V1: isnt there a another app that can do that
[03:37:59] tank-man: grep initdefault /etc/inittab will show the runlevel
[03:38:10] SHADOW_V1: ah ok thanks
[03:38:34] tank-man: and on my distro, i use chmod +x or -x to turn on and off startup files
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[03:38:49] SHADOW_V1: ah ok
[03:39:14] tank-man: its probably distro specific
[03:39:23] SHADOW_V1: yeah thats what it seems like
[03:39:27] SHADOW_V1: what distro do you use
[03:39:33] tank-man: slackware
[03:40:01] SHADOW_V1: ah ok
[03:40:15] SHADOW_V1: i use ubuntu
[03:40:44] SHADOW_V1: so debian probably has something different
[03:40:59] tank-man: maybe a search term like "ubuntu start stop restart services OR daemons"
[03:41:34] SHADOW_V1: tank-man, good call
[03:41:49] SHADOW_V1: sysvconfig
[03:42:11] SHADOW_V1: ubuntu start stop restart services OR daemons
[03:42:19] SHADOW_V1: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/how-to-controll . . . ervices.html
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[03:43:44] tank-man: i hate .biz sites , they most ly seem like ad/spam sites
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[03:44:00] SHADOW_V1: hmm
[03:44:05] SHADOW_V1: this one doesnt seem like one
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[03:44:28] tank-man: yea, looks good overall
[03:45:04] ** cesman wonders why 'service' is becoming used more and more instead of daemons.... **
[03:45:22] iamlindoro: influx of windows users
[03:45:25] SHADOW_V1: i said daemons
[03:45:44] ** cesman isn't picking on anyone... just wondering **
[03:45:51] SHADOW_V1: ok
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[03:47:35] SHADOW_V1: iamlindoro, do you have a mac
[03:47:51] iamlindoro: Yes, several, and many many more at work
[03:48:03] SHADOW_V1: how do you like them vs windows boxen
[03:48:32] iamlindoro: I don't use windows at all these days, so I imagine that speaks strongly to my preference
[03:48:42] SHADOW_V1: ah ok glad to hear it
[03:48:43] iamlindoro: whereas I do use and quite like Mac OS X
[03:50:16] SHADOW_V1: ok yeah i was ok with windows untill i realised how much better linux is and i want something like linux on a laptop except you know that can be used on a laptop
[03:50:31] SHADOW_V1: by used i mean you know power features and sleep resume
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[03:57:18] SHADOW_V1: does it stay reliable and fast after use
[03:58:24] iamlindoro: Assuming proper use, sure
[03:59:32] SHADOW_V1: whats considered proper use
[03:59:53] iamlindoro: Not installing every program advertised by a flash banner on every site you visit
[04:00:03] iamlindoro: not dropping it
[04:00:12] SHADOW_V1: but i thought thats what your supposed to do
[04:00:13] iamlindoro: emptying the trash now and again
[04:00:20] SHADOW_V1: they said i was getting a godo deal
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[04:03:07] jblack: sigh. This remote is so annoying.
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[04:05:27] SHADOW_V1: http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2 . . . oud-servers/
[04:05:32] SHADOW_V1: kinda looks pretty
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[04:46:36] wagnerrp: SHADOW_V1: thats a rather awkward machine
[04:46:48] wagnerrp: two machines?
[04:47:09] SHADOW_V1: wagnerrp, why isnt it just one machine 4 cpus 4 banks of ram
[04:47:15] SHADOW_V1: for*
[04:47:35] wagnerrp: look at the back panel, two copies
[04:48:03] SHADOW_V1: hmm that is weird
[04:48:19] SHADOW_V1: i dont know hardware always intrigued me
[04:48:30] wagnerrp: two sets of: expansion slot, vga, serial, 2xusb, 3x8p8c
[04:48:40] SHADOW_V1: but i dont know what job would assemble those then management
[04:48:44] SHADOW_V1: gmanage them
[04:48:45] wagnerrp: plus some lights, and cooling vents
[04:51:35] wagnerrp: yes, that is a dual server tray
[04:52:05] wagnerrp: the other layouts either include additional drives, or additional memory, instead of the extra server
[04:53:55] SHADOW_V1: hmm ok
[04:54:19] SHADOW_V1: so what job would include setting those systems up and managing them
[04:54:28] SHADOW_V1: i love the idea of daya centers
[04:55:33] wagnerrp: meh... im more of a supercomputer guy myself
[04:55:51] SHADOW_V1: i do thoroughly enjoy clusters
[04:56:16] SHADOW_V1: but to administer those doesnt someone need a masters degree
[04:56:35] iamlindoro: wagnerrp, Get my PMs?
[04:57:25] wagnerrp: oddly, i noticed them right before you mentioned them, but theyre timestamped to hours ago
[04:57:55] iamlindoro: probably for the best, tarball is substantially updated since
[04:58:04] wagnerrp: SHADOW_V1: you can learn enough run one of those tinkering in your spare time
[04:58:32] SHADOW_V1: yeah thats what i try to do
[04:58:52] SHADOW_V1: when i get a chanc where i move i am going to setup a small cluster
[04:59:17] SHADOW_V1: but never kew what to run on the cluster to actually use it
[04:59:21] wagnerrp: i have no formal sysop training, but im sure i could rebuild the one at work to at least its current state
[04:59:48] SHADOW_V1: i tried to use folding at home but its core doesnt sllow for distribution the way i want it to be
[05:00:14] wagnerrp: why build a cluster if you have no use for it?
[05:00:18] SHADOW_V1: it would spread each core but it would open a new process instead of uses threads over the mosix core
[05:00:35] SHADOW_V1: because i love the idea of clusters and would love to work with them
[05:00:53] wagnerrp: pick up a hobby like computer graphics, or physics simulations
[05:01:03] SHADOW_V1: yeah i guess what i want to be in a sysop but when i graduate i wont have enough experience for it
[05:01:18] SHADOW_V1: yeah i wanted to get into rendering just havnt had the time for that as of yet
[05:01:31] wagnerrp: although its not that easy to pick up simulation software, at least in my area of study
[05:01:45] SHADOW_V1: yeah
[05:02:45] wagnerrp: its all either sold proprietary codes, in-house proprietary codes, or otherwise deemed worth of export control and thus a bit difficult to access
[05:02:49] SHADOW_V1: my plan was to try and find a job that would work on an it team but all i have seen have been help desk
[05:03:09] SHADOW_V1: havnt heard from them either
[05:03:10] wagnerrp: but thats not to say you cant just grab the equations and build something yourself
[05:03:18] SHADOW_V1: right
[05:04:11] wagnerrp: you can find textbooks to walk you through a basic CFD solver, im sure you can find similar things for other disciplines
[05:04:22] SHADOW_V1: cfd?
[05:04:31] wagnerrp: computational fluid dynamics
[05:04:37] SHADOW_V1: ah ok
[05:04:46] SHADOW_V1: yeah that would really tax the cluster
[05:05:03] wagnerrp: its all relative
[05:05:23] SHADOW_V1: to the fluid being rendered
[05:05:25] SHADOW_V1: ?
[05:05:33] SHADOW_V1: or what that fluid is being put through
[05:05:34] wagnerrp: you could write a code that would fly on your PC, or you could write one that would bog down a roadrunner
[05:05:47] SHADOW_V1: right
[05:05:49] wagnerrp: it all depends on the granularity and accuracy of the code and model
[05:06:09] SHADOW_V1: yeah
[05:06:46] wagnerrp: but dont just build a cluster because you want a cluster
[05:07:06] SHADOW_V1: right i was going to figure out what i was going to use it for afterwards
[05:07:32] wagnerrp: then youll find it to be overkill or inadequate
[05:08:54] SHADOW_V1: i think i was going to use that to force me to teach myself how to use blender
[05:09:18] wagnerrp: will blender do distributed rendering?
[05:10:07] SHADOW_V1: i thought it did
[05:10:10] SHADOW_V1: i could be wrong
[05:10:12] iamlindoro: wagnerrp, yeah
[05:11:00] wagnerrp: well at the very least, when we do rendering at work, we just do one scene per machine
[05:11:06] wagnerrp: err... one frame
[05:12:16] wagnerrp: one of the guys wrote an 'image' exporter for our in-house distributed 3d visualizer
[05:12:21] wagnerrp: saves as a pov-ray input file
[05:12:32] wagnerrp: makes nice pretty pictures
[05:12:40] wagnerrp: because everyone knows thats what engineering is all about
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[05:23:08] Lexridge: xris: Strange that WDTV-
[05:23:19] Lexridge: DT does not show up in the SD schedules.
[05:24:14] Lexridge: somehow a LF got inserted there....it should have been WDTV-DT
[05:26:37] Lexridge: anyway, I sent an issue msg.
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[07:17:44] rhp_: Hi all, I recently upgraded mythdora 4.0 to mythdora 10.21. This is giving me so much trouble that I'm going to downgrade back to mythdora 4.0 (due to severe regressions in the VLD XvMC playback part). Since I do not think mythtv supports database version downgrades, I will have to 'downgrade' the right tables by hand. So far I figured out that `record' and `recorded' are of interest. Are there any other tables I must take over?
[07:20:05] sulx: record recorded oldrecorded recordedprogram recordedrating recordedmarkup recordedseek
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[07:20:33] rhp_: sulx: thanks
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[10:44:54] grokky: Howdy all. I suspect this is a dumb question, but fri night and tired. Mythmusic (recent trunk) plays .m4a apple lossless fine, but doesn't recognise .m4a extension. renaming to .flac works. Easy fix to get mythmusic to recognise .m4a extension?
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[12:33:36] wagnerrp: any halfway decent format does not require an extension
[12:34:03] wagnerrp: you can pick up the header ID to identify the format
[12:35:58] grokky: wagnerrp: yup. it works regardless of extension. I was just hoping it'd be easy to seamlessly move files between iphone/itunes/mythmusic etc. If only apple supported flac. oh well
[12:37:28] wagnerrp: these files are all stored on a linux machine?
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[12:41:49] wagnerrp: grokky?
[12:42:38] wagnerrp: nevermind... the files are originally mp4, not flac
[12:45:23] wagnerrp: (note that '.m4a' is not a valid extension from the spec, but something apple came up with. an m4a and m4v are nothing more than a renamed mp4)
[12:56:50] sphery: I thought they were renamed mp4 with FairPlay to make them so much better
[13:01:40] wagnerrp: 'The iZ3D monitor has the capability of polarizing light at any angle'... wait a minute, i thought putting out polarized light was just a matter of how LCDs functioned
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[13:02:06] meek: can mythtv be used as a daap client?
[13:02:07] wagnerrp: how are you going to get a LCD to magically rotate
[13:03:07] wagnerrp: meek: sort of
[13:03:24] meek: wagnerrp: hmm what does that mean?
[13:03:35] wagnerrp: you have to install a helper program, which mounts the DAAP share to the file system
[13:03:47] wagnerrp: and then just access the music through the file system as normal
[13:06:01] meek: wagnerrp: ok, cool. thanks
[13:11:29] jblack: I need to find a different remote. This topseed mce remote just don't work right.
[13:12:10] Dibblah: I have found proof positive that porn is bad for you.
[13:12:16] Dibblah: http://regmedia.co.uk/2009/06/12/ixus_95_is_33a.jpg
[13:12:34] Dibblah: First glance thought – How did THAT picture get onto thereg?
[13:12:43] Dibblah: Oh – it's a microphone.
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[13:13:26] wagnerrp: what does that have to do with porn? people in the porn you watch wear excessive amounts of eye shadow?
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[13:14:04] Dibblah: Uhm... What could you theoretically replace the microphone with?
[13:14:17] wagnerrp: although this one would show that sexual experimentation is bad for you.. http://xkcd.com
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[13:14:55] wagnerrp: well if youre thinking that way... that guy must be like 4' long
[13:15:20] wagnerrp: in which case they wouldnt be giggling and smiling, but probably running
[13:15:54] Dibblah: Like I said, first glance and mind like an open sewer.
[13:17:01] wagnerrp: oh, porn is bad because thats what you think of now... i get it
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[13:32:38] rooter7: qsocketdevice.h: No such file or directory
[13:33:14] rooter7: Seems it still wants qt3-devel, even after I was dragged kicking and screaming to KDE4.
[13:33:38] rooter7: Any way around this?
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[13:39:32] wagnerrp: switch to trunk
[13:39:47] wagnerrp: 0.21 uses all qt3, trunk uses all qt4
[13:40:00] rooter7: I've always been told that users never, never use trunk?
[13:40:14] wagnerrp: its got nothing to do with what version of qt you use, or what version of kde you use
[13:40:22] wagnerrp: its up to the program what version of qt you need
[13:40:52] rooter7: Trunk has been unstable and crashy in my experience, at least in the past.
[13:40:52] wagnerrp: trunk is unfinished, and can be buggy
[13:41:26] wagnerrp: so trunk is for people who can work through, work around, or otherwise suffer these bugs on their own
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[13:42:34] rooter7: Rather not have that pain. Is there any other way? If I install qt3-devel?
[13:42:56] wagnerrp: if you are using 0.21, you need qt3 installed
[13:44:00] rooter7: I don't know how to tell, but I thought I was running qt4 before with KDE3.5.10, and likely had qt3 installed as well.
[13:44:25] rooter7: Maybe if I continue with qt4 and again install qt3?
[13:44:52] wagnerrp: the two can be installed simultaneously, yes
[13:45:24] rooter7: I just don't want to get criticized for running trunk.
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[13:46:24] Dibblah: No, no – That's not the way it's supposed to work.
[13:46:40] wagnerrp: you wont get criticized for running trunk, you get criticized for the questions you ask while running trunk
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[13:47:00] Dibblah: You're on fixes, something doesn't work, someone in here says try trunk, *then* you get criticised for running trunk.
[13:47:03] wagnerrp: trunk users are expected to have an amount of self-sufficience
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[13:48:14] wagnerrp: if you come in here on trunk expecting handholding, then you get criticized
[13:48:24] CyberKnet: aaaaaaah
[13:48:25] rooter7: Hey, there's a libqwt5-qt3-dev package. (Debian Testing) Seems to be a compat. I'll try that.
[13:48:30] CyberKnet: I wondered why nobody would hold my hand.
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[13:49:03] CyberKnet: It's because I run trunk!
[13:49:15] rooter7: No, there are other reasons for that, CyberKnet...
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[13:50:18] CyberKnet: how useless is it to join a channel and then broadcast that you are away because you have been inactive?
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[13:50:33] wagnerrp: if you can work through problems on your own, if you can check trac for reported bugs, if you can apply patches and correct inconsistencies between revisions without assistance, (if you wont get yelled at by someone if mythtv suddenly stops working)
[13:50:41] wagnerrp: then its probably alright to use trunk
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[13:50:57] CyberKnet: yikes. I'm on trunk, and I *can't* do those things!
[13:51:02] rooter7: I just want it to work.
[13:51:19] wagnerrp: if you want it to just work, then stick with a stable release
[13:51:38] rooter7: Looks like it's compiling boys...
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[13:51:46] wagnerrp: and go ask the debian/ubuntu people how to install qt3 on your release
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[13:52:11] rooter7: Apparently I'm running freakin' qt5...
[13:52:46] rooter7: And this qt5/qt3 compat is working...
[13:52:50] CyberKnet: I'm running qt 3.14159265
[13:53:04] rooter7: Debian Testing.
[13:53:09] wagnerrp: that looks like plain old normal qt3
[13:53:12] Dibblah: Mmmmm. Pi.
[13:53:19] wagnerrp: and whatever package 'qwt5' is
[13:53:32] CyberKnet: Dibblah: qt pi even.
[13:53:46] Dibblah: Ugh. Thanks for that.
[13:53:59] CyberKnet: yw
[13:54:14] CyberKnet: I'm sure nobody has ever made that joke before.
[13:54:31] rooter7: Ugh
[13:54:55] CyberKnet: Lot of Ughs in here today.
[13:55:01] stuarta: ugh
[13:55:07] rooter7: Well, it's not compiling very clean, but it's sure going.
[13:55:16] laga: Ugh :/
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[13:56:12] CyberKnet: any one else?
[13:56:21] CyberKnet: no? ok then. Moving right along.
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[14:11:18] rooter7: It's official: It compiled. {makes note}
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[14:52:08] TUplink: whe do i have like 14 mythfrontends running even tho i only opend it once
[14:52:23] TUplink: even a reboot dont help
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[14:57:24] stuarta: well that didn't make sense
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[14:58:28] sphery: TUplink: chances are it's your KDE or GNOME auto-restart/session junk
[14:59:11] stuarta: my thought was a top defaulting to showing threads
[14:59:26] TUplink: im using flexbox
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[15:01:15] TUplink: how do i get rid of it all?
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[15:07:28] CyberKnet: http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/06/12/twitter- . . . mself-crazy/ roflmao
[15:08:10] GreyFoxx: TUplink: Do you actually see 14 frontend windows/screens?
[15:08:22] GreyFoxx: Or are you just seeing 14 "processes" in a pf/top ?
[15:08:25] GreyFoxx: ps /top
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[15:12:53] TUplink: no ps -aux shows them
[15:12:59] TUplink: and its SLOW
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[15:13:29] TUplink: like with just the menu up i have 9
[15:13:29] GreyFoxx: run pstree
[15:13:40] GreyFoxx: they are likely just threads of the single app
[15:13:53] GreyFoxx: some versions of the kernel/ps show an apps threads as seperate processes
[15:14:00] GreyFoxx: so it can be decieving
[15:14:15] TUplink: its not even in pstree
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[15:15:31] GreyFoxx: mythfrontend doesn't show up in pstree at all ?
[15:15:39] TUplink: nope
[15:16:00] GreyFoxx: I find that highly suspect :)
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[15:16:12] GreyFoxx: sure your not just missing it ?:) try pstree | grep myth
[15:17:02] TUplink: its there when its playing a movie but not at idle
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[15:17:58] GreyFoxx: That is very odd. I would expect you to always see the FE in a pstree output if it's running
[15:18:02] GreyFoxx: mythtv@bork:~$ pstree | grep myth
[15:18:02] GreyFoxx: |-mythbackend---11*[{mythbackend}]
[15:18:02] GreyFoxx: |-runfe.sh---mythfrontend---8*[{mythfrontend}]
[15:18:04] sphery: nice... my bank signed with MS to use the Bing engine for its locations search, and now the page doesn't work in Firefox (or Firefox on GNU/Linux)
[15:18:08] GreyFoxx: see, 1 frontend with 8 threads
[15:19:00] TUplink: ├─mythfrontend
[15:19:08] stuarta: sphery: nasty. and wtf is the bing engine?
[15:19:19] Dibblah: MS Live search.
[15:19:26] Dibblah: Renamed to be trendy.
[15:19:36] ** stuarta bangs head against desk **
[15:19:44] Dibblah: TUplink: They're threads, not processes. And it's normal.
[15:20:05] TUplink: ok....
[15:20:26] TUplink: well playback sucks..... now grantit its a 733 but ran good at one time
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[15:20:28] TUplink: LMAO
[15:20:52] stuarta: you haven't told it to use the opengl renderer have you?
[15:20:55] Dibblah: What changed?
[15:21:18] stuarta: you don't want that unless your graphics card has support for it
[15:22:42] TUplink: no.... um... i updated frontend and somehow had to reinstall Xorg
[15:23:03] TUplink: trust me its been all morning in the making
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[15:24:46] i_is_cat: hey is there a program that will convert a video file into a series of picture files.. jpeg or png or whatever..?
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[15:25:13] iamlindoro: TUplink: What GPU, what drivers, what myth renderer, and if video is the issue, what playback profile?
[15:25:29] iamlindoro: Oh, and what are you recording with, and where
[15:25:36] jamiem: i_is_cat: mencoder does that afaok
[15:25:41] SHADOW_V: also whats your employment history
[15:25:50] SHADOW_V: also to verify whats your ssn
[15:25:52] iamlindoro: presumably "comcast in West Virginia," but using what type of tuner device
[15:25:57] SHADOW_V: and mothers maiden name
[15:26:02] ** stuarta chuckles **
[15:26:37] iamlindoro: High school, home town, first pet's name, age at which you lost your virginity or, if not applicable, number of years you have lived in your mother's basement
[15:26:53] TUplink: um.... Xbox and was on Nvidia..... just put them to nvxbox to see what happens
[15:27:01] i_is_cat: jamiem, hmm ok ty.. im lookin for something for my landlord tho, he has a shitty dvr for a security system and it would be so much easier if i could get something that would just output 1 jpg for every frame of video and do it super simply cuz he is just not technically inclined whatsoever hehe
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[15:28:12] iamlindoro: Do the nVidia closed-source drivers even support the xbox GPU?
[15:28:18] iamlindoro: I'm imagining not
[15:29:08] troldrik: don't believe so.
[15:29:20] TUplink: i dont know.... but they were working
[15:29:33] iamlindoro: anyway, you can try using different Painters by trying mythfrontend -O ThemePainter=qt
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[15:29:55] iamlindoro: But we should probably claify on whether it's the UI that's slow or the video
[15:29:58] iamlindoro: er clarify
[15:30:19] TUplink: the UI is faster than it has been but vid playback jumps
[15:30:44] iamlindoro: Utilities/Setup->Setup->TV Settings->Playback
[15:30:45] iamlindoro: Page 3
[15:30:52] iamlindoro: change the profile from whatever it is to "Slim"
[15:31:03] iamlindoro: when click next all the way to the end, then finish
[15:31:06] iamlindoro: then try again
[15:31:39] troldrik: TUplink: which version of the nvidia drivers work on the nv2a?
[15:32:45] TUplink: i have no idea..... trying to get it to work again so i can get to the playback settings
[15:33:57] TUplink: there is suposed to be a nvxbox driver somewhere but i cant find it debian
[15:34:23] iamlindoro: If you're running with the vesa driver, then you're definitely sunk
[15:34:38] iamlindoro: but finding xbox graphics drivers is a bit outside the scope of this channel
[15:34:59] troldrik: that isn't the CLOSED SOURCED nvidia driver.
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[15:37:59] TUplink: Driver "fbdev" is the one that works
[15:38:22] iamlindoro: A framebuffer device is going to be very bad times for myth
[15:38:41] TUplink: LOL
[15:38:44] TUplink: figures
[15:38:53] GreyFoxx: there is no scaling acceleration
[15:39:10] GreyFoxx: if you played something that was the exact same resolution then it might play fine
[15:39:19] GreyFoxx: but anything requiring scaling would be horrid
[15:39:32] troldrik: cpu would still have to do yuv->rgb conv.
[15:39:57] TUplink: thats the prob.... anyone know where i can get the nvxbox driver.... i think in the process of updating everything i lost it
[15:42:33] TUplink: what dose myth use to playback recordings? mplayer? or somthing like ffmpeg
[15:42:47] iamlindoro: Myth has its own internal player
[15:43:09] TUplink: ok..... well in the playback settings i saw ffmpeg
[15:43:26] iamlindoro: ffmpeg provides libraries used by most/all linux players
[15:43:32] iamlindoro: ffmpeg itself is not a player
[15:43:46] TUplink: cuz see with the mythvideo plugin it plays fine
[15:44:00] TUplink: and that uses mplayer
[15:44:28] iamlindoro: mythvideo *can* use mplayer, not that one should choose to
[15:44:32] Dibblah: Well, there is ffplay...
[15:44:57] iamlindoro: Dibblah: Yeah, true
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[15:51:09] iamlindoro: Anyway, turns out it's 2009, time to put the 733 Mhz celerons on the shelf, that hardware's millenium has passed
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[15:52:13] SHADOW_V: iamlindoro, tell that to clever
[15:52:24] iamlindoro: I do, with frightening regularity
[15:52:42] SHADOW_V: ah cary on the good fight
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[15:53:12] SHADOW_V: or more the endless fight
[15:53:36] iamlindoro: Eventually the hardware will fail and he'll be forced to venture out of doors to forage
[15:54:12] SHADOW_V: if only we had a video feed when that happens
[15:54:18] SHADOW_V: that owuld be an interesting site
[15:54:57] iamlindoro: The day star, it burns
[15:55:37] SHADOW_V: sight*
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[16:02:20] TUplink: how can i download all this http://xbox-linux.cvs.sourceforge.net/xbox-li . . . ideo-nvxbox/
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[16:03:04] wagnerrp: SHADOW_V: what are you talking about... a celery 733 is an upgrade for him
[16:04:24] SHADOW_V: wagnerrp, i am sure he has a 1ghz chip laying around somewhere
[16:06:49] iamlindoro: TUplink: We really don't have the knowledge to support xbox linux on top of myth itself here, you ought to check out a channel for whatever xbox linux distro you're running
[16:07:10] iamlindoro: They might be able to help you in #gentoo-xbox
[16:08:00] wagnerrp: TUplink: the biggest problem is that even if you do get it working, its not going to be fun
[16:08:11] wagnerrp: myth will not happily run on a system with that little memory
[16:08:23] iamlindoro: Yeah, I wouldn't inflict xbox myth on anyone
[16:08:37] TUplink: how do i get CVS files?
[16:09:40] iamlindoro: with cvs
[16:09:46] wagnerrp: anywhere that is hosting a CVS repository should give instructions on how to download it
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[16:26:58] wagnerrp: i dont understand this... how is bundling IE breaking AT laws?
[16:27:17] wagnerrp: if it is against the law somehow, how are they still breaking the law by no longer bundling it?
[16:29:00] wagnerrp: besides, OSX comes with safari, linux distros come with firefox or konqueror or nautilus or at the least some form of lynx/links
[16:29:29] iamlindoro: "J&W Minix 811 netbook gets the hands-on treatment"
[16:29:38] iamlindoro: Hmmm, I no think that word means what they think it means
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[16:29:45] iamlindoro: (Minix, that is)
[16:31:04] iamlindoro: So I had to order a Dell lappy here at work a few weeks ago, and it included a bonus $100 gift card, think I'll use it when they next run their $154 HD-PVR deal
[16:31:14] iamlindoro: Mmmm, $54 HD-PVR, Mmmmm....
[16:31:23] SHADOW_V: sent to SHADOW_V ?
[16:31:31] SHADOW_V: its called community for a reason
[16:31:33] iamlindoro: c/o iamlindoro
[16:31:49] SHADOW_V: how many would that make for you
[16:31:55] GreyFoxx: man I got exited at seeing $54 HD-PVR for a second :)
[16:32:06] iamlindoro: only the second HD-PVR
[16:32:14] GreyFoxx: then I saw it was from a deal
[16:32:15] GreyFoxx: yeah
[16:32:15] SHADOW_V: also can you crop commercials out yet
[16:32:16] wagnerrp: if they really work, id buy a dozen
[16:32:35] GreyFoxx: iamlindoro: I would have jumped at that price heh
[16:32:41] wagnerrp: youre sitting on a gold mine iamlindoro
[16:32:45] iamlindoro: Heh
[16:33:10] XLV: wagnerrp, one critical point will be the default search engine of IE8.. also i read its upon OEMs now to install some browser.. since OSS doesnt return any $ in OEMs' pockets in any way, i'd say they'll choose IE8 or even chrome
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[16:35:27] TUplink: ok... off mythtv subject but you all are smart.... how do i findout where all of the X drivers are instaled?
[16:35:50] wagnerrp: depends entirely on your distro
[16:35:58] wagnerrp: usually somewhere in the vicinity of /var/lib
[16:36:04] wagnerrp: err... /usr/lib
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[16:39:13] TUplink: i found them
[16:39:37] TUplink: the thing i just instaled instaled them to /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers
[16:39:59] TUplink: no... thats where they needed to be
[16:40:18] TUplink: /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/
[16:41:10] TUplink: LMAO..... perty colors...... all pixles..... WOO HOOO
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[17:22:45] wagnerrp: worst chipotle ever
[17:23:29] wagnerrp: meat was not well cooked, not fully cut, had gristle.... and the shell itself broke through in multiple places
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[17:24:09] SHADOW_V: wagnerrp, DEMAND A REFUND!
[17:24:34] wagnerrp: for something already in mah bellah, at a store two miles away?
[17:24:41] SHADOW_V: yup
[17:24:50] elkin: hi, I am running the latest trunk but have issues with "avi" and "mkv" files using the internal player. mythtv forgets the last position after exiting.
[17:25:02] SHADOW_V: mash some stuff together add food coloring and same that the food is tainted
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[17:31:29] wagnerrp: elkin: looks like that stuff is in the filemarkup table, type=2
[17:33:15] elkin: wagnerrp: that is for mythvideo but not for regular recordings... or am I wrong
[17:33:52] wagnerrp: you dont have 'avi's and 'mkv's in the regular recordings, not unless you hacked them in manually
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[17:34:19] wagnerrp: but in the event you did run some external transcoding script and reinsert them
[17:34:35] wagnerrp: that would be table recordedmarkup, same type
[17:35:10] wagnerrp: note that table also contains the seektables for all recordings, so it will be huge
[17:35:29] elkin: wagnerrp: no, used mythnettv do do the job
[17:37:09] wagnerrp: i assume mythnettv sets these 'recordings' up with proper channel IDs and start times?
[17:37:27] elkin: the log says: FindPosition(8569, search not adjusted) --> [69(48775844),70(49265112)]
[17:37:44] elkin: SeekReset(8596, 0, do flush, do discard)
[17:38:23] elkin: yes, mythtv does a mythcommflag to get the seektable and adds channel ID and Starttime
[17:39:01] elkin: normal mpeg2 recordings work fine
[17:39:04] wagnerrp: myth does seeking by recording exact byte position of certain elements
[17:39:31] wagnerrp: and normal recordings have this seektable automatically generated
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[17:39:45] wagnerrp: perhaps this problem is one side effect of not having a seektable
[17:39:54] elkin: can it be set to be less precise?
[17:40:25] elkin: mythcommflag --rebuild --hogcpu -f /var/lib/mythtv/recordings/1244725205_tmp5FjT8r
[17:40:36] elkin: as an example of what mythnettv does
[17:40:49] wagnerrp: yeah... thats what would build a new seektable
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[17:41:04] elkin: the file is an avi with divx inside
[17:41:35] elkin: it happens with VDPAU and software renderer
[17:41:54] wagnerrp: seeking is done all in software, has nothing to do with VDPAU
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[17:42:31] wagnerrp: basically, its a mechanism for rapid seeking through a variable bitrate file
[17:42:37] wagnerrp: constant bitrate, you can seek directly
[17:42:56] wagnerrp: variable bitrate, you have to take a guess, read the stream to find your position, take another guess....
[17:43:21] elkin: could it be that it takes longer to seek than some preset before it gives up?
[17:43:47] wagnerrp: i have no idea, ive never looked into that code
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[17:55:52] secleinteer: hi, does anyone know if the turtle beach riviera sound card can be used for audio passthrough via s/pdif out to a gfx card with hdmi?
[17:56:08] secleinteer: my mobo doesn't have s/pdif out
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[17:56:27] elkin: wagnerrp: could this be indicative of something:Invalid and inefficient vfw-avi packed B frames detected
[17:57:34] wagnerrp: vfw-avi?
[17:57:59] iamlindoro: That's a libavformat message
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[17:58:20] wagnerrp: vfw is a video editing framework for windows, i dont understand how it would have anything to do with a container
[17:58:39] wagnerrp: unless thats an ambiguous acronym
[17:58:58] iamlindoro: Read the message-- libavformat is complaining about the packing being done inefficiently using vfw-avi
[17:59:23] iamlindoro: ie complaining about the muxer used to create the file
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[18:00:01] iamlindoro: More or less advertising that whomever created the file had no idea what they were doing
[18:00:26] iamlindoro: Which is generally the case with the YARRRRRR avast me matey crowd
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[18:01:06] elkin: iamlindoro: I just remuxed using avidemux but it fixes nothing
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[18:04:45] iamlindoro: don't use avidemux
[18:04:55] iamlindoro: if you must use something, use ffmpeg
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[18:05:10] iamlindoro: and then of course you'll need to rebuild the seektable
[18:08:42] elkin: iamlindoro: just remuxed and muxed every 15 frames and now it works... do you know how to do this with ffmpeg?
[18:09:03] wagnerrp: i wonder why samsung hasnt released a 2TB drive yet, considering their 1TB drives are now two-platter
[18:10:02] SHADOW_V: maybe they dont like 4 platters
[18:10:36] wagnerrp: elkin: should be something like 'ffmpeg -i movie.avi -vcodec copy -acodec copy newmovie.avi'
[18:12:39] elkin: [NULL @ 0xe1bb10]error, non monotone timestamps 1 >= 1
[18:12:45] elkin: from your command
[18:13:32] wagnerrp: can ffmpeg handle vbr audio in avis?
[18:13:46] wagnerrp: i know a lot of stuff just refuses to
[18:14:39] iamlindoro: I know that I'm not inclined to help make pirated material work
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[18:23:20] elkin: thanks, mencoder works to remux
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[19:36:21] secleinteer: hi, does anyone know if the turtle beach riviera sound card can be used for audio passthrough via s/pdif out to a gfx card with hdmi? my mobo doesn't have s/pdif out.
[19:37:41] wagnerrp: can the riviera be used for spdif passthru in linux?
[19:38:07] wagnerrp: or rather, can ALSA see the spdif output?
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[21:14:03] dustybin: haha how cool
[21:14:03] dustybin: http://www.guerrillamail.com/
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[21:31:02] elg: how do I make the schedulesdirect offset change from mythtv-setup take effect? I've run mythfilldatabase to no avail
[21:34:27] kormoc: mythfilldatabase --refresh-all?
[21:35:55] ** elg gives it a try **
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[22:08:29] th1: I wish there was something like SchedulesDirect for Europe ;)
[22:08:54] th1: all these xml grabbers take hours to run and are pretty unreliable for places like Denmark
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[22:09:35] troldrik: mythfilldatabase seems to segfault half the time with tv_grab_dk_dr. :/
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[22:13:36] galorin: I've just got a couple questions. I just installed Mythbuntu (latest). I have 2 tuner cards, one isa Nova-t, working no bother. The other shows up as an unspecified saa7134 card. I can't get the saa card to work. Other issue is, I can't get the remote hooked up to the Nova-T to work
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[22:36:36] bbeattie: are there any dish or direct tv solutions to capture via firewire reliably? I know years ago there were a few hackish methods but I'm wondering if it's simpler now.
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[22:46:40] secleinteer: wagnerrp: i don't know, i don't have it. i want to know before buying it
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[22:47:01] secleinteer: it says on newegg that someone got it to work with linux, though
[22:47:07] secleinteer: but i don't know how reliable that info is
[22:48:08] secleinteer: for example, ``Works perfectly in Linux and with Mythtv. I'm using it to dump the raw encoded audio to my receive via fiber.''
[22:48:40] secleinteer: oh wow, a review just posted today, i didn't see it before:
[22:48:53] secleinteer: ``I'm using the card for S/PDIF pass-through on a Kubuntu 9.04 media PC. It works flawlessly. ''
[22:49:11] secleinteer: i guess i'll buy it
[22:49:22] iamlindoro: spdif passthrough is NOT the same as jumpering through the GPU
[22:50:26] iamlindoro: You need a motherboard or sound card with headers and the jumpering cable, it is not the same connection, and you definitely can't pass an external optical connection to the GPU's SPDIF header
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[22:50:57] SHADOW_V2: but iamlindoro i read it on a blog
[22:51:00] secleinteer: also, ``Alsa under Linux recognized it without incident. 5.1 optical pass through to my receiver works very well. I only have the optical hooked up and Linux knows to use it for standard stereo sound, as well as 5.1''
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[22:51:06] SHADOW_V2: it was on the internet it must be true
[22:51:25] iamlindoro: oh, what was written is true, it's the interpretation that is in error
[22:51:36] SHADOW_V2: :)
[22:52:00] iamlindoro: You *can* output 5.1 audio through that device to your receiver. You *cannot* output 5.1 audio to that device, then jumper it to your GPU for HDMI audio
[22:52:27] troldrik: unless it has a header on board...
[22:52:34] secleinteer: yes, it does, i believe
[22:52:42] secleinteer: i don't mean use one of the ports
[22:53:01] secleinteer: look at this picture: http://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggImage/produc . . . 8-105-06.JPG
[22:53:09] secleinteer: "Optical S/PDIF I/O", on the board
[22:53:32] ** iamlindoro sighs, goes back to doing something worthwhile **
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[22:54:04] troldrik: And you know the pinout of that connector? :p
[22:54:11] secleinteer: no, that's why i'm here
[22:54:19] secleinteer: it has a 5 pin row, and a 4 pin row
[22:54:32] secleinteer: but the s/pdif cable that came with the gfx card only has 2 pins
[22:55:37] secleinteer: the instructions that came with the gfx card for connecting the s/pdif cable say that you need to connect it to the "s/pdif-out header on your motherboard or sound card"
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[22:57:46] secleinteer: troldrik: should i just email turtle beach?
[22:58:18] troldrik: I'd try the googl.e
[22:58:22] secleinteer: already did
[22:58:29] secleinteer: that's why i'm here ;/
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[22:59:42] secleinteer: troldrik: also, i'm not trying to get 5.1
[22:59:45] secleinteer: i just want 2 channel audio
[23:03:53] secleinteer: iamlindoro: btw, someone in ##hardware told me you can pass external optical audio to the gpu, by using a toslink to coaxial converter
[23:03:57] secleinteer: is that true?
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[23:20:35] kali67: I have comcast digital cable and while I can get CNN on my TV ( rf straight to TV , no stb) I can't seem to get it in mythtv , any ideas ?
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[23:31:44] secleinteer: well, nvm, i decided to get a radeon hd 4350 instead (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?It . . . 6814125251), since it's cheaper than even the sound card
[23:31:59] secleinteer: it has integrated audio, so that's gonna be a lot less hassle
[23:34:00] troldrik: except the drivers are shite.
[23:34:29] secleinteer: troldrik: yeah, i know, oh well
[23:34:33] secleinteer: i deal with it on my laptop
[23:35:09] secleinteer: the reviews said it works with ubuntu, so whatever
[23:35:19] secleinteer: i'm not going to be gaming or anything
[23:35:38] secleinteer: troldrik: btw, wasn't amd supposed to open source their drivers like a year ago? what happened to that?
[23:35:40] troldrik: and no vdpau.
[23:36:05] troldrik: secleinteer: they have provided open documentation.
[23:36:23] troldrik: The drivers are community/novell developed.
[23:36:28] secleinteer: but closed-source?
[23:36:33] troldrik: open sores.
[23:36:38] secleinteer: huh?
[23:36:39] troldrik: fglrx is closed.
[23:36:47] secleinteer: the OSS ones don't work?
[23:36:49] troldrik: radeon/radeon hd
[23:36:55] secleinteer: yeah, those aren't any good?
[23:37:09] troldrik: not really.
[23:37:29] secleinteer: ah
[23:37:30] secleinteer: oh well
[23:37:41] secleinteer: fglrx is pretty bad, but i'm used to it by now
[23:37:43] troldrik: opengl support is just starting.
[23:37:57] troldrik: no power management AT all.
[23:38:13] secleinteer: my thinkpad can't extend the desktop correctly, which is ridiculous, but other than that, it's no big deal
[23:38:40] troldrik: If you're lucky, the dri2 stuff will finally do v-sync on xvideo... loi.
[23:39:12] secleinteer: the funny thing is i actually have another box that has s/pdif out headers on the mobo
[23:39:17] secleinteer: but it's way too loud to use as an htpc
[23:39:42] troldrik: I just got a gf9400 motherboard instead.
[23:39:57] secleinteer: i can't change the mobo, it's an oem box
[23:40:09] secleinteer: the one that i'm using as the htpc
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[23:42:14] nambo: is there a way to mark multiple recordings for compression in myth?
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[23:42:35] nambo: i have it set to convert my recorgins to avi after 3 days, but i don't think it's working
[23:42:42] nambo: recordings*
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[23:55:56] iamlindoro: GreyFoxx, Is it of any help for me to test this Mythgame MythUI patch? have you looked at it at all yet?
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