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| [00:03:54] | jblack_: | yeah. |
| [00:04:36] | jblack_: | That particular issue isn't intresting to me. The licensing issues are, though. ;) |
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| [00:50:44] | Pontiac: | So due to my inability to get my tuner card to record audio on its own, I have to pump the audio through the on-board sound. Problem is that when I want to record the recorded shows, or any of the videos I have on the machine, the tuner walks all over whatever else I happen to be watching.... |
| [00:51:23] | Pontiac: | so, I'm planning on setting up a second machine to handle the front end, and let the back end do its recording. Its more apt to do that as its got an HT P4 2.7ghz CPU at 533mhz FSB. |
| [00:51:24] | clever: | same framegrabber problem as allways |
| [00:51:36] | clever: | you need to configure mythtv to record from the sound card |
| [00:51:39] | Pontiac: | What do I have to do to the now-backend machine to allow the front end? |
| [00:52:03] | Pontiac: | clever> It is recording. But I can't figure out how to mute the audio play back, while it records. |
| [00:52:14] | Pontiac: | Maybe aumix just doesn't cut it. |
| [00:52:21] | clever: | inside 'alsamixer' you can mute the linein on just playback |
| [00:52:34] | Pontiac: | I'll try that. Sec. |
| [00:52:43] | iamlindoro: | If only the answers weren't shrouded in mystery in the Myth documentation under confusing titles like "configuring sound" |
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| [01:17:22] | Pontiac: | Perfect. But I still think I'm gonna setup the front end. |
| [01:18:00] | Pontiac: | *IF* I have the hardware, find a way to get both tuners working. |
| [01:22:17] | Pontiac: | hmm "Forget Old" doesn't seem to .. 'Forget' |
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| [01:33:22] | castlec__: | Would anyone be able to tell me what the differences between mysql.txt and config.xml should be between front-end and back-end? I am unable to connect the two because I get a 'No UPNP servers found' error |
| [01:34:39] | wagnerrp: | castlec__: those two files serve the same purpose, however 'config.xml' is the new version |
| [01:34:57] | wagnerrp: | mysql.txt is only kept around for old scripts that may have not been updated yet |
| [01:35:26] | wagnerrp: | you will only be able to autodetect a backend if you set a pin in mythtv-setup |
| [01:35:36] | wagnerrp: | (and the backend is running, and with a network addressable IP) |
| [01:35:53] | Pontiac: | There seems to be a glitch with the "FORGET OLD" button... I went into the database, found oldrecorded handles the old schedules, but it doesn't actually delete anything from here. |
| [01:36:11] | castlec__: | I do have a pin set. I actually had no issues with it until I changed the ip address |
| [01:36:21] | castlec__: | I don't know if they are tied together or not |
| [01:36:28] | Pontiac: | When I manually removed the appropriate row from the database, refreshed the MythWeb page for that showing, it now shows it says its never been recorded. |
| [01:36:38] | Pontiac: | Yet I PROMISE I hit the FORGET OLD a few times. ;) |
| [01:36:39] | wagnerrp: | the two computers are on the same subnet? with the same broadcast address? |
| [01:36:54] | castlec__: | yes. Pingable and all |
| [01:37:06] | wagnerrp: | and the broadcast address? |
| [01:37:18] | castlec__: | both on 192.168.1.0 |
| [01:37:36] | wagnerrp: | so theyre both using 192.168.1.255... |
| [01:37:48] | castlec__: | the front end is a pxe client being loaded from the back-end |
| [01:37:54] | castlec__: | yeah |
| [01:39:20] | wagnerrp: | well the only things that could really go wrong with auto-detection should be: the pin not set, the backend not running, the backend not running on an accessible interface, and the machines being on different subnets |
| [01:40:07] | castlec__: | unless I've got the pin set incorrectly, all of the above are good |
| [01:40:27] | wagnerrp: | well any pin set, and the upnp should be activated |
| [01:40:33] | wagnerrp: | it should be detected |
| [01:40:46] | castlec__: | the pin is set in mythtv-setup under localhost section I think |
| [01:40:58] | wagnerrp: | the 'localhost' section? |
| [01:41:14] | castlec__: | I don't remember right now. I'm on the front end machine |
| [01:41:29] | wagnerrp: | if you have localhost set anywhere, youre doing it wrong |
| [01:41:43] | castlec__: | I"ll have a look at it and set it again. I remember it being in a section with an odd name |
| [01:41:49] | wagnerrp: | third possible error, 'the backend not running on an accessible interface' |
| [01:42:06] | wagnerrp: | the backend must be set to use its 192.168.1.whatever address, rather than the default localhost |
| [01:42:07] | castlec__: | as in, running on localhost instead of eth0? |
| [01:42:27] | wagnerrp: | otherwise, networked frontends and slave backends will not connect |
| [01:42:37] | castlec__: | There is only one place that is settable correct? |
| [01:42:46] | wagnerrp: | two places, same page |
| [01:43:02] | wagnerrp: | one for the master backend, and one for the backend on the machine youre currently running mythtv-setup on |
| [01:43:18] | wagnerrp: | assuming you only have one backend, those should both be the same |
| [01:43:19] | castlec__: | I only have one backend |
| [01:43:46] | castlec__: | if you don't mind, I'm going to rejoin the channel from the other machine so I can verify all of it with you |
| [01:44:50] | castlec: | hey, I guess I'm already here..... that would explain the _ on my name |
| [01:46:28] | castlec: | I think I just found the problem..... there are two IPs on the General page and I only changed the address for master |
| [01:46:41] | castlec: | instead of local backend also |
| [01:46:58] | wagnerrp: | so the backend is currently set up as a slave backend, with no master to connect to |
| [01:47:07] | wagnerrp: | only the master backend will enable upnp |
| [01:47:20] | wagnerrp: | for autodetection or a/v streaming |
| [01:47:31] | castlec: | master was correct.... local backend was not |
| [01:47:49] | castlec: | I assume those should be the same when there is only one backend |
| [01:49:10] | wagnerrp: | correct |
| [01:49:10] | castlec: | I'll test it out and report back..... Thanks for the push wagner |
| [01:49:17] | wagnerrp: | and they should always be the same on the master backend |
| [01:49:21] | castlec: | ok |
| [01:49:35] | castlec: | I must have just skimmed over it not realizing I needed to change it in two places |
| [01:50:37] | castlec: | does a mythfilldatabase need to be run for anything other than programming updates? |
| [01:50:53] | wagnerrp: | nope, thats all its for |
| [01:51:07] | wagnerrp: | and it should get run automatically |
| [01:51:14] | wagnerrp: | you should never need to run it manually |
| [01:51:21] | castlec: | Ok. Mythbuntu automatically asks if you want to run it after every exit from setup |
| [01:51:42] | wagnerrp: | asks you? or suggests you should? |
| [01:52:04] | castlec: | It asks if you want to run it. |
| [01:52:16] | wagnerrp: | ok, thats a mythbuntu thing |
| [01:52:54] | castlec: | The exact wording is: Would you like to run mythfilldatabase |
| [01:53:25] | castlec: | I had figured it was mythbunut specific but didn't know when I needed to click on vs not so I've always let it run it |
| [01:53:29] | castlec: | Thanks for the extra info |
| [01:54:32] | castlec__: | that got it wagner. Thanks a lot :) |
| [01:55:54] | ** Pontiac goes and preps the new machine. ** | |
| [01:57:34] | castlec__: | and sorry for not catching it earlier |
| [01:58:28] | iamlindoro: | The penalty is exile to the forbidden zone |
| [01:59:06] | wagnerrp: | not the floating mirror!!! |
| [02:01:32] | iamlindoro: | Guilty! Guilty! Guilty! Guilty! |
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| [02:03:05] | Pontiac: | You guys are mental..... |
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| [02:03:28] | wagnerrp: | youve obviously never watched Superman |
| [02:03:51] | heyheyhey: | superman 2 quest for peace |
| [02:04:00] | wagnerrp: | wasnt that 4? |
| [02:04:08] | iamlindoro: | Indeed it was |
| [02:04:28] | iamlindoro: | Superman 4: Pretend It Never Happened |
| [02:04:40] | castlec__: | lol |
| [02:04:52] | wagnerrp: | yeah, i remember thinking that movie was lame even as a little kid |
| [02:06:02] | heyheyhey: | lol |
| [02:06:32] | heyheyhey: | well i have all the superman's on dvd |
| [02:06:33] | heyheyhey: | lol |
| [02:06:42] | heyheyhey: | i guess i am lame lol |
| [02:06:44] | wagnerrp: | and you dont even know their order? |
| [02:06:58] | heyheyhey: | it was a typo |
| [02:06:59] | heyheyhey: | lol |
| [02:07:30] | heyheyhey: | i know superman 2 had zod in it |
| [02:07:59] | heyheyhey: | the 3 exiled krypo |
| [02:09:05] | castlec: | next step...... I just changed my display resolution to match the tv but it is not scaled to that resolution. Is that handled in the playback profiles and if so, what should I set? |
| [02:09:27] | castlec: | I have a happy little picture surrounded by black |
| [02:10:09] | wagnerrp: | is mythfrontend displaying that way? or is all of X displaying that way? |
| [02:11:16] | castlec: | just myth |
| [02:16:35] | heyheyhey: | wagnerrp if i run irexec with say left and right and will it interfer with mythbackend? |
| [02:16:52] | wagnerrp: | left and right? |
| [02:17:01] | heyheyhey: | on remote |
| [02:17:15] | heyheyhey: | but i use them in frontend too |
| [02:17:44] | wagnerrp: | mythbackend never touches lirc, nor does it run an Xapp to be affected by irxevent |
| [02:18:21] | wagnerrp: | the only reason mythbackend would be bothered by anything lirc is if you have irexec running an application which uses mythproto, or otherwise sends kill signals to mythbackend |
| [02:18:23] | heyheyhey: | so would irexec and myfrontend confilct |
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| [02:41:59] | stevecam: | its working :-D |
| [02:46:42] | castlec: | hey wagner, what is happening is that it starts to play at full resolution for a split second, as in, while it acquires tuner lock, then scales down to whatever it decides it needs to |
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| [03:14:10] | castlec: | is there anyone who can help with some scaling issues? Is it possible that the myth player decides to scale down because the cpu can't handle the larger picture? I can't figure out why my picture is being sized down |
| [03:16:42] | clever: | it may refuse to up-scale if your cpu cant handle it |
| [03:16:49] | clever: | but down-scaling would take more power |
| [03:17:32] | castlec: | it should be 1:1 or something similar. it's a tv hd signal going to 1280x720 |
| [03:18:20] | castlec: | it looks like it holds the 1:1 scale for a second and then pushes it down |
| [03:18:43] | clever: | you also sometimes get a widescreen frame with black bars on the top/bottom, shown on a wide screen, causing extra bars on the left/right |
| [03:19:48] | castlec: | i've got that but it's caused by improper scaling, not by the widescreen format. it's not maxing out either the horizontal or the vertical |
| [03:20:16] | clever: | try the W key |
| [03:20:37] | castlec: | I'll give that a go. |
| [03:20:39] | castlec: | brb |
| [03:26:57] | chet: | anyone know why mythtv 0.22 shows a lot of 'this channel was found to be in conflict with other channels. Please enter a unique channel number.' prompts after a new scan with the hdhomerun? |
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| [03:29:17] | iamlindoro: | Presumably you mean trunk, as there's no .22 yet |
| [03:29:30] | iamlindoro: | and it shows that because the new channel scanner is a work in progress |
| [03:29:45] | chet: | yes, trunk |
| [03:31:55] | castlec: | clever, w for zoom got the job done but I don't understand why it's neccessary. It runs full with the main display on the same machine at a lower resolution, then runs full on my backend at 1080p |
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| [05:24:58] | Ponty: | So, I got the front end installed, from a console, I managed to connect to the mysql database with mysql -u mythtv -p -h {ip of host} and it connected. I was able to change the database and list all the tables... |
| [05:25:17] | Ponty: | But when I try to do anything with the UI, it tells me it can't connect to the database, after it does the pre-scalling. |
| [05:25:52] | Ponty: | Prior to that, MySQL on the host was set to ignore all network connections, which was corrected, and it was restarted. |
| [05:25:57] | Ponty: | What else can I check? |
| [05:26:04] | wagnerrp: | check ~/.mythtv/config.xml, make sure the database login settings are correct |
| [05:26:16] | Ponty: | On the host? |
| [05:26:29] | wagnerrp: | on the machine that isnt connecting |
| [05:28:05] | Ponty: | The XML file says that the DB port is 0, however I suspect that it's a default, and still will go to the default of 3306? |
| [05:29:09] | wagnerrp: | correct |
| [05:31:33] | Ponty: | Everything looks right. The host IP is correct, the username/password is correct... |
| [05:32:19] | wagnerrp: | try giving other locations database access |
| [05:32:38] | wagnerrp: | give the IP, the hostname, the full hostname.... |
| [05:32:49] | wagnerrp: | the whole subnet |
| [05:34:17] | Ponty: | <DBHostName>192.168.2.32</DBHostName> |
| [05:34:32] | wagnerrp: | no, the machine that isnt connecting |
| [05:34:45] | wagnerrp: | that entry is the IP address of the server |
| [05:34:57] | wagnerrp: | you need to grant access to the client machine, the separate frontend |
| [05:35:12] | stevecam: | is there a channel selection menu in mythtv |
| [05:35:33] | wagnerrp: | the on screen guide |
| [05:35:39] | wagnerrp: | theres a hotkey (dont remember what) |
| [05:35:45] | wagnerrp: | or you can access it from the 'm' menu |
| [05:36:01] | wagnerrp: | or you can have it go there automatically at the start of livetv |
| [05:36:11] | Ponty: | What I did was go to the section "Modyfying access to the MySQL database for multiple systems" and did the last suggested grant all. |
| [05:36:32] | Ponty: | I also set the password successfully. |
| [05:36:46] | wagnerrp: | pointy, what was the exact line you gave it... you can omit the password if you want |
| [05:36:59] | wagnerrp: | and what is the IP address of the frontend? |
| [05:37:02] | Ponty: | grant all on mythconverg.* to mythtv@"192.168.1.%" identified by "mythtv"; |
| [05:37:07] | Ponty: | change the 1 to a 2. |
| [05:37:18] | stevecam: | how do i select a channel in the menu, it just brings up the recording menu |
| [05:37:25] | Ponty: | The front end machine is 2.52. The back end is 2.32. |
| [05:37:42] | wagnerrp: | stevecam: dont know, never actually used it |
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| [05:38:03] | ** Ponty checks with MySQL on that access. ** | |
| [05:38:12] | wagnerrp: | Ponty: try granting that machine specific access |
| [05:38:23] | Ponty: | K. Sec. |
| [05:39:32] | Ponty: | mysql> update user set host='192.168.2.32' where Host='192.168.2.%'; |
| [05:39:35] | Ponty: | Now to check the box. |
| [05:41:28] | Ponty: | HA! Still have access permission errors... |
| [05:42:33] | Ponty: | Wait.. 32 isn't going to work. |
| [05:42:55] | wagnerrp: | well you need both for obvious reasons |
| [05:43:08] | Ponty: | Well, the host is hooking in via localhost. |
| [05:44:22] | stevecam: | what should i do to avoid skipping in HD |
| [05:44:35] | wagnerrp: | stevecam: what hardware is your frontend? |
| [05:45:41] | stevecam: | I have a GeForce 4 Ti, a single core p4, and 1gb RAM |
| [05:46:03] | wagnerrp: | clockrate? |
| [05:46:07] | stevecam: | 4x AGP |
| [05:47:06] | stevecam: | 2.4ghz |
| [05:47:46] | wagnerrp: | well my 1.8 doesnt even come close to ATSC decoding, which is ~16mbps mpeg2 |
| [05:47:54] | wagnerrp: | i wouldnt doubt a 2.4 would have trouble |
| [05:49:02] | stevecam: | im thinking of using a different PC, a slow one for a frontend, since they will be different PC's , do you think there will be any benifit |
| [05:49:48] | wagnerrp: | when mythtv first starting being used, you needed a fast backend for recording off framegrabbers, and a relatively slow backend to decode standard definition content |
| [05:49:55] | wagnerrp: | however the roles have reversed |
| [05:50:15] | wagnerrp: | you need next to no power, and only a bit of IO capacity to record off mpeg encoders and digital tuners |
| [05:50:23] | wagnerrp: | but a fair bit of power for decoding in the frontend |
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| [05:51:14] | wagnerrp: | for HD mpeg2, you really dont need much power, but a P4 2.4 is an old chip, and netburst was a bad architecture anyway |
| [05:51:38] | wagnerrp: | any Ath64, Core2, or better will manage HD mpeg2 |
| [05:52:01] | wagnerrp: | as well as an AthXP maybe 1.6–1.8GHz or better |
| [05:52:18] | wagnerrp: | for a P4, the cutoff is probably somewhere around 2.6–3.0 |
| [05:53:07] | stevecam: | is it possible to tell the computer to downsample before it goes to the other computer |
| [05:53:27] | wagnerrp: | you can transcode to a lower quality, yes |
| [05:53:45] | stevecam: | live? |
| [05:53:46] | wagnerrp: | however mythtv does not have any facility to do this on-the-fly from the backend |
| [05:54:03] | wagnerrp: | nor the capability of maintaining multiple copies of a recording at different quality levels |
| [05:54:06] | stevecam: | probably take up too many resources |
| [05:54:25] | wagnerrp: | on a high end backend, certainly not |
| [05:56:32] | stevecam: | no, there wouldnt be |
| [05:57:47] | stevecam: | well, i was making a dedicate PC to run only the mythtv frontend, what would you recommend |
| [05:58:07] | wagnerrp: | what is your goal? |
| [05:58:32] | stevecam: | to view digital and hd channels on a dedicated pc |
| [05:58:42] | wagnerrp: | if you just want broadcast mpeg2, any normal desktop chip sold retail will do nicely |
| [05:58:57] | wagnerrp: | i know DVB offers h264, but i dont know if anyone in your area broadcasts using it |
| [05:59:51] | wagnerrp: | however Ath64s do maybe 3–4mbps/GHz, Core2s maybe 5 |
| [06:00:15] | wagnerrp: | thats per core |
| [06:00:49] | wagnerrp: | i know DVB can get up to 20–25mbps, so figure any midrange C2D, or high end Ath64X2 could manage broadcast h264 |
| [06:01:15] | wagnerrp: | bluray is a bit more difficult, as it can get up to 30–40mbps |
| [06:01:38] | wagnerrp: | so youre looking at a heavily OC'd dual core, or a quad core for that |
| [06:02:28] | wagnerrp: | alternatively, you can try out VDPAU (nvidia's hardware video decode acceleration), but realize that hardware decoders are nowhere near as fault tolerant as software decoders |
| [06:02:47] | wagnerrp: | with VDPAU, a P3 or better can handle all of that content |
| [06:06:04] | stevecam: | well, i only need to worry about the frontend |
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| [06:42:02] | Ponty: | I think I'm gonna give up for tonight. |
| [06:42:40] | Ponty: | I can't get the front end machine to talk to the back end machine. The back end is playing Holmes on Holmes, so I know the DB is up for it, as well as I can use mysql from a command line and hook to the remote host without problems. |
| [06:43:14] | wagnerrp: | youre running 'mysql' from the machine that you cant get to connect? |
| [06:43:35] | Ponty: | mysql -u mythtv -p -h 192.168.2.32 |
| [06:43:38] | Ponty: | 32 is the host machine. |
| [06:43:45] | wagnerrp: | from 2.52? |
| [06:43:47] | Ponty: | From the client machine, which is 52. |
| [06:44:14] | wagnerrp: | if mysql works, but mythfrontend doesnt |
| [06:44:26] | wagnerrp: | either your config.xml is wrong, or your install is borked |
| [06:44:44] | wagnerrp: | something seriously wrong with the binaries themselves |
| [06:44:56] | wagnerrp: | and if theyre prepackaged binaries, thats not likely |
| [06:45:03] | Ponty: | Lemme pastebin the config. |
| [06:45:31] | Ponty: | I got it from the ubuntu libraries with whatever gnomes package manager is. Its Ubuntu 8.10 with a FRESH install off the CD. |
| [06:46:56] | Ponty: | http://pastebin.ca/1433650 |
| [06:47:39] | wagnerrp: | what about /etc/mythtv/,mythtv/config.xml? that file exist? |
| [06:48:24] | Ponty: | No, but a /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt exists, and its got the same creds as I would expect to connect to the DB. |
| [06:48:49] | Ponty: | Does Myth give any sort of log when it can't connect for one reason or another? |
| [06:49:04] | wagnerrp: | depends on how it is started |
| [06:49:23] | Ponty: | Currently, manually from the Gnome desktop. |
| [06:49:35] | Ponty: | Well, the .. err.. start menu. heh |
| [06:49:36] | wagnerrp: | either it logs to stdout with a definable amount of verbosity, or to a log file with the '-l ' directive |
| [06:49:52] | wagnerrp: | open up a terminal, and run 'mythfrontend.real' |
| [06:50:01] | wagnerrp: | i think thats the link to the binary |
| [06:50:20] | wagnerrp: | with ubuntu/mythbuntu, mythfrontend is just some wrapper script |
| [06:50:39] | Ponty: | heh.. This SOB is so new I've still not installed the up to date nVidia drivers. |
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| [06:52:03] | Ponty: | It says "New DB connection, total: 2".... "Connected to database 'mythconverg' at host: 192.168.2.32".... |
| [06:52:11] | Ponty: | Now to see if it can hit my recordings... |
| [06:52:26] | wagnerrp: | looks like youre just using the wrong settings file |
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| [06:52:39] | wagnerrp: | ask someone who knows mythtv on ubuntu what file its actually using |
| [06:53:06] | Ponty: | Ahh.. Its looking like it wants to connect to 127.0.0.1 for the recordings. |
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| [06:57:35] | Ponty: | Thanks. This has gotten me going in the right direction. At least I know its looking at the wrong server. Just gotta slap it upside the back of the head and tell it to pay attention. |
| [06:57:53] | Ponty: | ... but I still should give up to go to sleep. heh |
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| [07:03:48] | Ponty: | *BINGO*... I had to go into the new front end and configure its backend to talk to the mysql database on the host. |
| [07:04:11] | wagnerrp: | a frontend shouldnt be running a backend |
| [07:04:36] | sulx: | why not? |
| [07:04:43] | Ponty: | Efficiency. |
| [07:04:50] | sulx: | bull... |
| [07:04:56] | sulx: | if machine has enough power |
| [07:04:59] | wagnerrp: | if its a frontend only box, with no tuners, it shouldnt be running a backend |
| [07:05:12] | Ponty: | Theres a better definintion. ;) |
| [07:05:14] | sulx: | aah |
| [07:05:21] | sulx: | if thats the case |
| [07:05:33] | wagnerrp: | i apologize... wasnt clear enough |
| [07:06:00] | Ponty: | This machine is going to be just a front-end because the other machine isn't ultra-powerful, AND it was causing heartache when recording and watching TV shows. |
| [07:06:40] | Ponty: | AND I just wanted to see what it'd be like. :) |
| [07:06:44] | Ponty: | Thanks for the assist. |
| [07:06:54] | Ponty: | Now to install the nVidia drivers. |
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| [07:20:31] | linagee: | wow did TV die or something? was there no new simpsons? |
| [07:21:11] | ** linagee waits for someone to say like, "good ridance" ** | |
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| [07:27:09] | Ponty: | My brother is a phreak when it comes to Simpsons. He's got every ep from every season. |
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| [07:28:00] | wagnerrp: | and somehow controls the player using his phone line? |
| [07:28:31] | Ponty: | Well... No.. Has them all uploaded to our colo at an ISP and streams them, one ep after another. |
| [07:28:57] | wagnerrp: | so then... hes not a phreak |
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| [07:32:36] | Ponty: | Does controlling the colo from his cell phone to modify the play list count? |
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| [07:33:13] | Supaplex: | not if the cell service is paid for :) |
| [07:33:28] | Ponty: | It is, by his employer. |
| [07:33:33] | wagnerrp: | does he use a touch tone phone? or whistle? |
| [07:34:02] | Ponty: | ... ok.. so he's not THAT big of a phreak. |
| [07:34:38] | Supaplex: | nawe, he flaps his gums at 2.6khz |
| [07:35:30] | Ponty: | No, thats one of my kids. |
| [07:35:36] | wagnerrp: | why 2.6kHz? thats just one specific code to bump the long distance switchover into a diagnostic mode |
| [07:35:38] | Ponty: | Or it seems like it some days. |
| [07:36:01] | wagnerrp: | free calls isnt going to do much to let you change your playlist |
| [07:36:08] | wagnerrp: | unless thats how hes calling into the coloc |
| [07:36:18] | Ponty: | RDP |
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| [07:51:44] | Ponty: | Whats a typical system load when recording? |
| [07:52:58] | Supaplex: | depends on the typical hardware, typical recording quality, typical .... |
| [07:52:59] | wagnerrp: | probably 1, since mythbackend is continuously active |
| [07:53:28] | sid3windr: | very typical. |
| [07:53:32] | wagnerrp: | processor usage on anything but a framegrabber will be next to zero |
| [07:55:54] | Supaplex: | sid3windr: isn't it though? =D-) |
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| [15:50:29] | josh_: | NOTHING is working rightl |
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| [16:17:18] | Ponty: | [3:51a] <Ponty> Whats a typical system load when recording? |
| [16:17:18] | Ponty: | [3:53a] <Supaplex> depends on the typical hardware, typical recording quality, typical .... |
| [16:17:18] | Ponty: | [ |
| [16:17:31] | Ponty: | My system load is at 15 and rising. :/ |
| [16:18:07] | Ponty: | Hell of a lotta disk-waits for some reason. |
| [16:18:14] | wagnerrp: | Supaplex was wrong about that... got 'load' and 'cpu usage' confused |
| [16:18:51] | wagnerrp: | CPU usage should be moderate for a framegrabber, or next to zero for any other type of capture |
| [16:19:02] | wagnerrp: | however there is no reason load should be 15 |
| [16:19:12] | Ponty: | Unfortunately this card is indeed a framegrabber type. No on-board encoding, unfortunately. |
| [16:19:23] | wagnerrp: | you probably have a deadlock somewhere |
| [16:19:41] | Ponty: | With all the muckery I was doing yesterday its possible. |
| [16:19:47] | Ponty: | .. err.. this morning. heh |
| [16:20:27] | Ponty: | If this show its recording right now works, I'm not going to put too much thought into it. However, its annoying because it takes MythWeb forever to show me the recorded shows. |
| [16:20:34] | kormoc: | my framegrabber on my old 2.4 ghz p4 used around 30% of my cpu to encode, using around 700 megs per hour |
| [16:20:55] | kormoc: | Ponty, so it's likely building the thumbnails for mythweb, that *is* a resource hog |
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| [16:21:09] | Ponty: | Thats the kind of stats I'm getting as well. I'm looking at about 800meg/hr as well. |
| [16:21:32] | kormoc: | 0.21-fixes or 0.22? |
| [16:21:40] | Ponty: | Not sure. Lemme check |
| [16:21:44] | kormoc: | (or rather -trunk or 0.21/fixes) |
| [16:22:01] | Ponty: | I *THINK* it was the alpha3 version. |
| [16:22:10] | ** kormoc raises an eyeborw ** | |
| [16:22:12] | wagnerrp: | alpha3? |
| [16:22:18] | kormoc: | what distro? |
| [16:22:19] | wagnerrp: | no such beast |
| [16:22:26] | Ponty: | mythbuntu-9.04-alpha3-desktop-i386.iso |
| [16:22:37] | iamlindoro: | ... |
| [16:22:38] | Ponty: | I grabbed it Jan 26, 2009. |
| [16:22:54] | kormoc: | shutdown apache, see if your load drops to normal after a few seconds |
| [16:24:40] | Ponty: | 16.21...16.35....16.25....16.15....16.29.... The thing is, when I sat down just now, it was at 14 something. |
| [16:25:14] | Ponty: | http://pastebin.ca/1434050 |
| [16:25:16] | kormoc: | if apache is down and it's still doing that, then it's not -trunk I'd venture to guess |
| [16:25:38] | kormoc: | how many recorded shows do you have? |
| [16:25:46] | Ponty: | Maybe 30. |
| [16:26:27] | Ponty: | root@distro:/drives/200gig/Recordings# ls *.nuv | wc |
| [16:26:27] | Ponty: | 31 31 744 |
| [16:26:36] | kormoc: | So IMHO, if mythweb is the trigger of this (and you'll need to restart the BE), what likely happened is mythweb went to grab the thumbnail, got a permission denied, asked the BE to regenerate it |
| [16:26:55] | Ponty: | Since BE is going crazy right now, its put me on hold. |
| [16:26:56] | kormoc: | and there's historically been bugs in the BE doing tons of regeneration, might just have triggered it |
| [16:27:37] | Ponty: | That would fit since most of the rest of the pages MythWeb give are pretty instant. |
| [16:27:55] | Ponty: | But once I go into vewing the "Recorded Programs" it just sits there. It DOES eventually come back. |
| [16:28:06] | Ponty: | Is there an option to turn off the thumbnail regen? |
| [16:28:19] | kormoc: | There's an option to turn off pixmaps in the mythweb settings, aye |
| [16:28:30] | kormoc: | it's how I run most of the time anyway |
| [16:28:53] | Ponty: | Gotta launch a VM. Don't want to bug the kids and their Dorra. *eyes roll* |
| [16:29:09] | kormoc: | mythweb settings, not mythtv-settings |
| [16:29:20] | Ponty: | Oh. |
| [16:29:36] | kormoc: | there's a key icon near the top/center of the page |
| [16:30:00] | kormoc: | and then I believe it's under tv, something about 'Display Pixmaps?' and it's a checkbox |
| [16:30:07] | kormoc: | uncheck, hit save, call it good |
| [16:30:36] | Ponty: | Perfect. |
| [16:31:01] | Ponty: | Werks mint now. Appreciated. |
| [16:31:51] | kormoc: | I'd venture to guess that all you'd need to do is give your apache user read permissions on your recording dir(s), but god only knows how ubuntu might be setup |
| [16:32:49] | Ponty: | Well, there are PNGs of different sizes in there. |
| [16:33:08] | kormoc: | Aye, but if mythweb can't read them, it'll request the BE to regenerate them |
| [16:33:20] | Ponty: | Write but no read access? |
| [16:33:43] | kormoc: | the BE writes them for us, we're under a different unix user (apache's rather then the BE's) |
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| [16:34:14] | ** kormoc wonders how cynicismic managed to quit twice at the same time ** | |
| [16:34:27] | Ponty: | Recordings directory is RWX for all. |
| [16:34:29] | wagnerrp: | '1c' and 'ic' |
| [16:34:30] | Ponty: | I and 1. |
| [16:34:31] | wagnerrp: | two different users |
| [16:34:38] | kormoc: | ahh |
| [16:34:59] | kormoc: | Ponty, could be the dirs up the tree, if a single one of them is not +r for the apache user, we can't go down the path |
| [16:35:18] | wagnerrp: | what about +x? |
| [16:35:27] | Ponty: | Well this is interesting. The NUV files are RW/R/R, but the nuv.png file is RW/RW/RW, and the resized images (100x75, etc) are RW/R/R. |
| [16:35:30] | kormoc: | just as important |
| [16:35:50] | Ponty: | wagnerrp> The directory itself is RWXRWXRWX, yes. |
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| [16:36:21] | Ponty: | The owner of the files are mythtv/mythtv. |
| [16:36:26] | kormoc: | sudo -u apache/httpd/whatever ls /path/to/recording/dir ? |
| [16:38:48] | Ponty: | http://pastebin.ca/1434062 |
| [16:39:08] | Ponty: | I wonder... |
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| [16:39:38] | kormoc: | Sure, but that's not the apache/httpd/whatever user doing the ls :P |
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| [16:42:08] | Ponty: | I can get to the directory as the apache user. |
| [16:42:18] | Ponty: | And I can touch files. |
| [16:42:33] | kormoc: | so then it's purely the BE bug |
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| [16:43:22] | Ponty: | Well, I'm not opposed to blowing this thing away and download the latest. (Which I've already done... just gotta go to work to get my spool of CDs) |
| [16:43:41] | Ponty: | OS is seperate from the data drives. |
| [16:43:49] | iamlindoro: | There's no reason to blow away the install, just update your packages |
| [16:43:51] | kormoc: | I wouldn't venture to say that the newer mythbuntu would actually help |
| [16:44:07] | iamlindoro: | apt-get update && apt-get upgrade |
| [16:44:23] | ** kormoc wonders if there's a dist- missing ** | |
| [16:44:28] | Ponty: | There are some updates I've been putting off. |
| [16:44:56] | iamlindoro: | kormoc, Shouldn't be necessary, he's already on the current, the differences between the alpha and the release should just be package updates |
| [16:45:09] | kormoc: | fair 'nuff |
| [16:45:36] | iamlindoro: | not that it would hurt |
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| [16:45:46] | kormoc: | You know... have health insurance based out of CA when you're in WA is really crappy... |
| [16:46:41] | kormoc: | "Yes, the hospital will claim they don't accept us as insurance, but they will, just make them submit the forms." |
| [16:46:58] | iamlindoro: | yeah, that sounds promising |
| [16:47:50] | kormoc: | I might have cracked a bone in my foot again, and everywhere is listed as out of network and not covered... whee... |
| [16:48:24] | kormoc: | but the lady on the phone promises that they'll cover it... I wonder who I believe |
| [16:48:36] | Ponty: | Looks as though the updates that were pending were linux related, not myth related. |
| [16:48:39] | Ponty: | Updating anyways. |
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| [16:51:08] | Ponty: | Hmm.. Just checking with iostat and it seems to be writing about 6–7,000 blocks every couple seconds. |
| [16:52:35] | kormoc: | well, 800 megs a hour is ~225 k/sec, that would put your block size at ~ 32k? |
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| [16:56:53] | Ponty: | This is goofy, and I think IOStat has a bug or something... The partition the recordings are being written to are /dev/sdb1, yet, sda/sda1 are going haywire. |
| [16:57:14] | iamlindoro: | Well... aren't you running apt? |
| [16:57:18] | Ponty: | Drive space though isn't going where. |
| [16:57:18] | sid3windr: | so why do you think iostat has a bug? |
| [16:57:20] | Ponty: | Its done. |
| [16:57:28] | sid3windr: | :) |
| [16:57:35] | sid3windr: | try iotop instead |
| [16:58:11] | Ponty: | Nice. |
| [16:59:00] | Ponty: | mythbackend is going crazy with 15 generate-previews. mythcommflag is up there as well. |
| [16:59:39] | kormoc: | restarting the BE will kill the preview generations |
| [16:59:54] | kormoc: | and I think there's a way to limit mythcommflag down? |
| [16:59:55] | Ponty: | I think I'm currently recording something... Sec |
| [17:01:08] | Ponty: | ... oh wow this thing is fubarred. |
| [17:03:34] | josh_: | This motherboard SUCKS. I've tried three different distos, and RMA'd the board. sound doesnt want to work, network doesnt want to work, and video stutters on it badly. |
| [17:05:34] | Ponty: | What board? |
| [17:06:22] | Ponty: | Total DISK READ: 119.91 K/s | Total DISK WRITE: 577.05 K/s |
| [17:07:00] | Ponty: | I suppose thats 'reasonable' for writes while streaming. This box needs a reboot pretty bad, but can't tell if its recording cuz now Apache locks tight. heh |
| [17:07:13] | Ponty: | Awesome. {big grin} (No, I'm not mad... I do find this quite entertaining) |
| [17:07:36] | Ponty: | Acutally "UPCOMING RECORDINGS" shows nothing recording. |
| [17:07:39] | Ponty: | THATS interesting. |
| [17:07:41] | Ponty: | REBOOT! |
| [17:07:50] | Ponty: | Well, I'll try killing the BE first. |
| [17:09:09] | sid3windr: | ehh |
| [17:09:15] | sid3windr: | do you have dma enabled on your disks? =) |
| [17:10:21] | josh_: | Ponty, it's the ASUS P5N7M-VA |
| [17:10:55] | Ponty: | Interesting. I've not ever had any problems with ASUS and 'Nix. |
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| [17:11:42] | Ponty: | Mythbackend is fubarred. PROBABLY something to do with my database changes. Damn it. |
| [17:11:51] | Ponty: | Log file is just going crazy. |
| [17:12:03] | Ponty: | Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'localhost' (using password: YES) |
| [17:12:10] | Ponty: | I'll have to fight with it later. |
| [17:12:16] | Ponty: | Nothing critical being recorded today anyways. |
| [17:15:06] | Ponty: | heh.. 167meg log file. |
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| [17:17:17] | Ponty: | Musta fobarred the password. |
| [17:17:38] | wagnerrp: | yeah, mythtv likes log diarrhea when something breaks |
| [17:18:26] | Ponty: | How fortunate I've got backups. |
| [17:19:47] | josh_: | good backups are not a matter of luck :) |
| [17:20:12] | Ponty: | hehe.. Damn it, except these backups are JUST of the mythdatabase. |
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| [17:20:25] | ** Ponty alters that for future `issues`. ** | |
| [17:22:45] | Ponty: | I'm out for a few. |
| [17:22:49] | josh_: | It's a shame that this P4 2.8 has no problems being a myth frontend, but the Q6600+4GB ram has so many "problems" |
| [17:23:15] | josh_: | One day I'll figure it out, but in the meantime, i'm debating just getting another board |
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| [17:23:56] | wagnerrp: | well aside from the fact of the P4 struggling on HD |
| [17:24:10] | wagnerrp: | or is that just above the minimum |
| [17:24:39] | josh_: | wagnerrp, it does struggle on HD |
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| [18:00:35] | sphery: | Hmmm... "I encountered a couple of errors using the win32-packager.pl script..." I think the error was using the win32-packager.pl script/trying to run Myth on Windows. |
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| [18:13:55] | gbee: | surprises me that there aren't more people working on the windows port |
| [18:16:42] | wagnerrp: | everyone who would work on it just run linux, and everyone else uses samba |
| [18:17:29] | wagnerrp: | a lot of want, but little motivation on the part of someone who can actually do something about it |
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| [18:18:00] | wagnerrp: | plus theres the whole issue of having to run activeperl |
| [18:18:03] | laga: | maybe even less motivation now that we have vpdau |
| [18:18:04] | wagnerrp: | for some reason, that just bothers me |
| [18:18:10] | sphery: | Yeah, I suppose if you use Windows, it could be nice, but even then, I'm a firm believer in having a dedicated system running Myth stuff (meaning any OS would be fine) and I watch TV when I watch TV--i.e. if something is good enough to watch, I watch it and pay attention to it. I don't do any of that half-listen-to-the-show-while-doing-other-stuff-on-my-computer garbage. |
| [18:18:53] | sphery: | (that's what Internet radio is for) |
| [18:19:37] | wagnerrp: | sphery: i would probably only use it for recording editing |
| [18:19:56] | sphery: | gbee: sorry for stealing an easy win from you... I have a (tiny) patch that moves the Total (storage) section to the top of the list in the backend status page. :) |
| [18:20:19] | ** sid3windr does a LOT of this half-listen-to-the-show-while-doing-other-stuff-on-my-computer garbage ** | |
| [18:20:34] | sphery: | gbee: I'll post it and another that adds total amount of space used by LiveTV, Deleted, and Auto-expirable recordings |
| [18:20:36] | sid3windr: | I still have the windows port wiki page open but have not advanced much further than correcting some outdated links in it ;/ |
| [18:21:35] | sphery: | sid3windr: my brother does that (except for the "on my computer" part--he turns on TV for background noise). I've never understood using a visual medium for background noise. That's why I'm a fan of radio for background noise. |
| [18:21:55] | gbee: | sphery: you are welcome, too busy atm for the easy wins |
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| [18:23:21] | gbee: | sphery: if you are interested, the status stuff needs to ignore non-recording storage groups, or at least display them separately, currently my 'video' storage group is counted towards the total |
| [18:26:48] | sphery: | gbee: yeah, that's been on my list since I put the DB Backups special group in there, but with George Nassus's promised storage-group-types patch, I held off thinking I'd do it right. Cap'n M did a (self-described) hack in http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/changeset/19695 just to be able to close #4770 until we had a proper framework. I have a slightly better patch (uses StorageGroup::kSpecialGroups to find out whether to ignore the ... |
| [18:26:55] | sphery: | ... filesystem). I'll post it. |
| [18:27:01] | sphery: | I'd really like to do it right, though... |
| [18:27:33] | gbee: | ok |
| [18:28:03] | sphery: | (doing it right, would also allow things like MythWeb's asking for a list of recordings storage groups for scheduling a new rule, etc...) |
| [18:28:37] | sphery: | anyway, thanks for the reminder... I guess now that we have a couple of other special groups, we need the more generic solution (even if it's still a hack) |
| [18:29:52] | wagnerrp: | it finally started raining, maybe that means itll cool down around her |
| [18:35:12] | iamlindoro: | This Lenovo ION netbook is starting to look more like the ticket |
| [18:37:08] | XLV: | iamlindoro, still single core atom |
| [18:37:37] | iamlindoro: | Yep, not perfect just yet |
| [18:37:54] | iamlindoro: | I figure we'll see a dozen or so before the "just right" comes along |
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| [18:39:21] | XLV: | yeah, besically we need someone to endure intel's strongarming and use the dual core 330 and ion.. maybe some kamikaze chinese |
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| [18:40:18] | iamlindoro: | There's a couple of dual core + ION coming along, but I haven't seen a netbook version just yet, all nettops as far as I've seen |
| [18:40:28] | meshe: | iamlindoro: do you have a link for the netbook? |
| [18:40:36] | iamlindoro: | meshe, http://gizmodo.com/5268833/lenovo-s12-is-the- . . . true&s=x |
| [18:41:04] | wagnerrp: | nettop, netbook... whats the difference? |
| [18:41:23] | iamlindoro: | nettop = low power desk top, netbook = low power laptop |
| [18:41:38] | iamlindoro: | marketspeak, of course |
| [18:41:45] | gbee: | + very small form factor |
| [18:41:54] | iamlindoro: | yeah |
| [18:42:04] | meshe: | nice |
| [18:42:37] | iamlindoro: | I've slowly come around to sort of wanting a little nettop for random shell/use on the couch/in the kitchen |
| [18:42:45] | iamlindoro: | and at this point I figure might as well get an ION one |
| [18:43:17] | iamlindoro: | Not that I'm sold on VDPAU as a panacea, but having it there as a fallback wouldn't hurt |
| [18:43:25] | wagnerrp: | ive been considering picking up a n810 or similar... i just dont think ill be happy with the performance |
| [18:43:44] | iamlindoro: | We do some work with n810s at work, usability is sometimes frustrating |
| [18:43:50] | gbee: | sucks to be an early adopter, not sure what I'd do with a HD capable netbook, but I'd still trade it for my non-HD capable netbook |
| [18:43:53] | iamlindoro: | especially if you ever want to type anything |
| [18:44:04] | XLV: | wagnerrp, i'd spend a little more and get a 12" notebook.. or get a 8–9" netbook and maybe upgrade the ssd |
| [18:44:25] | XLV: | in betweens are a bit out of place, too slow or too big |
| [18:44:28] | wagnerrp: | XLV: well the idea being that i could actually carry it around |
| [18:44:28] | iamlindoro: | On that note, you can get a Dell mini 9 (or even 12 if you like) for practically NOTHING at their outlet + coupon |
| [18:44:46] | iamlindoro: | They're starting at about $250ish before a coupon, and with a coupon you can get below $200 |
| [18:45:28] | iamlindoro: | a lot of which are simply purchased as new and returned (and they note the difference between that and a refurb) |
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| [18:46:38] | iamlindoro: | Gotta say I was pretty impressed with the moblin 2.0 demo, I could see myself using something like that |
| [18:47:00] | iamlindoro: | (on a nice little ION netbook) |
| [18:49:20] | kormoc: | where do you get a coupon for the mini-9? |
| [18:49:23] | gbee: | hmm, I'll have to check that out, didn't like linpus and a full desktop os like Mandriva just doesn't work either, need something in between |
| [18:50:42] | XLV: | android is being tested too.. maybe in a while it will be a viable alternative used on dirt cheap arm netbooks |
| [18:50:45] | janneg: | I think moblin needs still a couple of months before it's ready |
| [18:50:50] | XLV: | i have seen some for 150 euro and less |
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| [18:51:27] | janneg: | gbee: have you tried ubuntu netbook remix? |
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| [18:52:49] | iamlindoro: | kormoc, fairly easy to google, or they send them weekly on their mailing list |
| [18:53:06] | iamlindoro: | kormoc, Took me a few google tries to find one that would apply, though |
| [18:53:22] | gbee: | janneg: no, guess I should but I was very disappointed the last time I tried Ubuntu |
| [18:59:00] | janneg: | gbee: I don't like ubuntu but the netbook remix is useable |
| [18:59:14] | iamlindoro: | Yeah, I hear that moblin is definitely rough, but shows a lot of promise from what I saw |
| [18:59:33] | iamlindoro: | I'd go so far as saying it even makes using a netbook look "fun" |
| [19:00:22] | janneg: | yeah, moblin looks very promising but especially the browser needs work |
| [19:00:53] | janneg: | it's hard to use it without crashing |
| [19:01:45] | janneg: | the crashes are not fatal since just the per tab backend process crashes |
| [19:02:42] | iamlindoro: | Interesting... Yeah, it'll be at least a few months before I purchase anything to run it on, so hopefully it will mature a bit |
| [19:05:19] | galorin: | I'm sitting here with an Aspire A110L, default OS is a pain,but wife complains when I tweak. |
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| [19:23:21] | gbee: | janneg: just viewed a video of netbook remix and it looks reasonable enough, so I'm downloading it now |
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| [19:25:15] | gbee: | galorin: huge pain, I put up with it for months because it at least worked and I didn't fancy spending hours experimenting with other distros to find out that they didn't for some reason or another |
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| [19:25:53] | gbee: | plus I'd already setup the apps the way I wanted them, starting that over again .... ugh |
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| [19:27:20] | galorin: | I've used straight mandriva. booting off an external hdd, worked OK. |
| [19:27:33] | gbee: | I'd gladly pay for a netbook distro based on Mandriva just for the simplicity of having the same tools on all machines, but Mandriva have no plans to release their netbook distro for download (only pre-installed) :( |
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| [19:27:46] | kormoc: | that's silly |
| [19:27:52] | galorin: | needed the hdd for something else, so bye bye mandriva |
| [19:28:08] | iamlindoro: | Wow, that doesn't make any sense at all |
| [19:28:25] | galorin: | Just wait, it'll wind up on bittorrent. |
| [19:28:55] | iamlindoro: | The very notion of needing to "pirate" linux is insane |
| [19:29:36] | iamlindoro: | silly mandriva |
| [19:29:50] | galorin: | It is, but so is what Mandriva wants to do with their netbook version |
| [19:30:41] | gbee: | Mandriva will install and run off the SSD, with plenty of space to spare, but for speed reasons I went with LXDE and that's a huge disappointment, it's their official lightweight desktop but it clearly didn't get much testing since it's riddled with bugs, it's not really netbook friendly – no kickoff menu, most apps don't get menu entries and need to be started from terminal ... |
| [19:31:35] | wagnerrp: | i thought mandrake/mandriva had died off |
| [19:31:47] | wagnerrp: | havent heard them mentioned in years |
| [19:32:37] | iamlindoro: | I used Mandrake forever, think my first Myth box was on Mandrake |
| [19:32:49] | gbee: | they've dumped kpowersave from 2009 Spring which is just daft because it's replacement is unavailable with LXDE and lacks the functionality of kpowersave anyway ... altogether, despite being a huge Mandriva user upto now, it's something of a disappointment ... :/ |
| [19:33:11] | galorin: | they're doing OK in south america, but hitched themselves to the wrong horse |
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| [19:33:40] | galorin: | I cut my teeth on Mandrake 8.1 |
| [19:34:10] | gbee: | wagnerrp: far from it, although the relentless rise of Ubuntu has put what IMHO is a superior 'user-friendly' distro in the shade |
| [19:34:29] | gbee: | galorin: heh, same |
| [19:35:00] | gbee: | at least I think it was 8.1, might have been earlier but it was several years (and drinks) ago |
| [19:35:22] | wagnerrp: | 8.1 was like 2002–2003 time period |
| [19:35:39] | kormoc: | Redhat 5.1, Manhattan... I remember when Apollo was the new hawtness... |
| [19:35:44] | wagnerrp: | i remember trying out mandrake 8.1 and RH 7.3 sometime back then |
| [19:35:52] | iamlindoro: | Remember buying a boxed version of Mandrake at the book store in College, I wish it were still possible to get Linux in "retail" format |
| [19:35:55] | gbee: | ok, definitely earlier then |
| [19:36:24] | iamlindoro: | Free is great, but I'd happily support development and have some nice supporting materials |
| [19:36:33] | iamlindoro: | just "feels" nice |
| [19:36:45] | kormoc: | Then I moved to Mandrake 5.2, Leeloo, stuck with it till 8.0 when I moved to Gentoo |
| [19:37:01] | gbee: | iamlindoro: still is, at least with Mandriva, pay and you get a physical box, manual disks and support |
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| [19:37:49] | wagnerrp: | i know you can still buy the BSDs |
| [19:37:55] | iamlindoro: | gbee, Yeah, if I were a mandriva user at this point I'd likely go that way |
| [19:37:55] | wagnerrp: | maybe not in-store, but certainly online |
| [19:38:33] | galorin: | iamlindoro, I got a retail box of 8.1 from Wal-Mart :-) Must have been the only one that bought it. |
| [19:38:51] | iamlindoro: | galorin, Heh, I seem to recall getting numerous versions of Mandrake from Borders |
| [19:39:27] | gbee: | kormoc: I've been moving in the opposite direction with regards to usability and off-the-shelf, the longer I've used the linux the more I want something that just works, that lets me spend my time on something other than compiling or hacking at text configs |
| [19:41:26] | galorin: | gbee, I agree. I want to spend my time doing interesting stuff, nnot doing what everyone else has to do to get a working system |
| [19:41:29] | gbee: | having that ability is great, but it shouldn't be a necessity, if I want to install openoffice it should take less than a minute, not a day etc – having recently sampled some distros I'd still say that Mandriva has got the config tools spot on |
| [19:42:39] | meshe: | that exactly why I use ubuntu, it just works, but if i want to get under the hood I can |
| [19:42:58] | kormoc: | gbee, Well, I've recently (2007) switched to OSX as my desktop os, so I'm sorta the same way, other then in the server realm |
| [19:43:31] | galorin: | I want to do the hackintosh thing |
| [19:43:56] | sphery: | kormoc: and you find gentoo to be sufficiently workable for servers--even when considering upgrades, etc? |
| [19:44:17] | sphery: | most admins I've talked to loathe gentoo because of upgrades |
| [19:44:36] | gbee: | meshe: yeah, so everyone says, it just didn't work out that way when I last tried it – w/ Mandriva everything worked out of the box, wireless up and running in a couple of minutes, w/Ubuntu I spend nearly two entire days trying to get wireless working amid countless other frustrations (this was a couple of years ago though) |
| [19:44:43] | galorin: | I do Slackware, or debian netinstall for servers |
| [19:44:44] | kormoc: | For my home stuff, aye, it doesn't get in my way, I'm way faster on a gentoo box then CentOS/RHEL which is what I typically use for business stuff |
| [19:44:44] | sphery: | (I have no opinion on the matter as I don't really know a lot about gentoo) |
| [19:44:56] | sphery: | ahhh... makes sense |
| [19:45:35] | kormoc: | But yeah, I write my own packages and I have a lot easier control over my own repos |
| [19:45:47] | meshe: | gbee: yeah, that was ubuntu a couple of years ago, now everything i've put it on just works |
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| [19:47:15] | sphery: | I accidentally got someone to switch from Windows to Ubuntu... |
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| [19:47:59] | wagnerrp: | accidentally? |
| [19:48:09] | meshe: | i started off as a Mandrake user, a couple of years ago i decided that apt/debs was far less of a headache then yum/rpms |
| [19:48:12] | wagnerrp: | they over at your house and use your computer? |
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| [19:48:25] | gbee: | I expect Remix to just work since it's targeted at this very platform/hardware, but on balance I'd still rather have something with Mandriva and the tools I'm familiar with, getting too set in my ways to adapt to a different package manager etc or a distro that won't let me log in as root etc ;) |
| [19:48:52] | gbee: | !yum, urpmi |
| [19:48:54] | meshe: | hah sudo passwd && su - |
| [19:49:14] | gbee: | vs su |
| [19:49:16] | meshe: | first rule of an advanced linux user using ubuntu |
| [19:49:23] | sphery: | She got a Windows virus and couldn't boot and asked for help getting her pics off the HDD. I recommended she get an external drive and use an Ubuntu LiveCD to boot the computer and copy the data from the internal to external HDD. She couldn't get that done (NTFS problems with the internal HDD's filesystem), so she had been using Ubuntu's LiveCD with the computer for >6mos until she finally asked me to get the data for her ... |
| [19:49:29] | sphery: | ... last week. She asked me to install Ubuntu after getting the data (so I restored Windows with the Dell restore, upgraded it, then installed 9.04 on another partition for her). |
| [19:49:49] | meshe: | the only reason you can't log into root on ubuntu is there's no password set |
| [19:49:55] | subquake: | anyone here willing to help me figure out how to install mythtv into FC11? |
| [19:50:23] | iamlindoro: | subquake, You are almost guaranteed to fail if you ask for someone to hold your hand through the whole process, but much more likely to get help if you ask specific questions |
| [19:50:33] | subquake: | I have specific questions |
| [19:50:49] | iamlindoro: | People will also be much more helpful if you have read the manual and checked the wiki first, too |
| [19:50:59] | gbee: | and I've never quite understood why people hate rpm or see deb as easier, the one feature I liked of debs was the explanation of space used/freed when installing a package, but rpm has offered that for a while now |
| [19:51:02] | subquake: | the wiki doesn't seem to help with fc11 |
| [19:51:02] | iamlindoro: | If you have specific questions, ask them, don't wait for volunteers |
| [19:51:04] | sphery: | subquake: and--unless there's some really good reason for bleeding edge--MythDora is a great way to get Myth and the Fedora feel |
| [19:51:40] | gbee: | anyway, think we've milked the whole distro discussion for all it's worth :) |
| [19:52:13] | meshe: | gbee: the terms RPM-hell and rpm dependancy hell was created for a reason, i've never had the kinds of issues i've had with rpms in a deb based distro |
| [19:52:22] | galorin: | aww,we haven't had a flamewar yet. :( |
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| [19:52:43] | meshe: | my personal opinion, not trying to slam RH/Fedora/Mandrake/*.rpm |
| [19:52:51] | kormoc: | galorin, Go die in a fire? (that work for ya?) |
| [19:52:53] | meshe: | and personal experience |
| [19:53:00] | gbee: | meshe: well that's the thing, I've never experienced rpm-hell, at least not since the days of Red Hat |
| [19:53:08] | subquake: | I had a look at mythdora. Is it easy enough to install all of the other server packages I'd like? |
| [19:53:38] | iamlindoro: | All the myth distros are just the core distro with the myth isntall process streamlined |
| [19:53:48] | iamlindoro: | nothing preventing you from using them as you might without myth |
| [19:53:50] | subquake: | alright then |
| [19:54:04] | meshe: | gbee: that's good, that's the main reason i ran away from the redhat based distros |
| [19:54:26] | meshe: | even though we have 50+ RHEL boxes here at work to maintain |
| [19:54:33] | sphery: | iamlindoro is way too fast... I wasn't half-way finished saying that when he had already convinced subquake |
| [19:54:45] | subquake: | I've had a terrible time getting fedora core installed. all of my downloads seem like they were corrupted except they pass all the sha1sum and verification tests |
| [19:54:46] | iamlindoro: | That's what the ladies tell me |
| [19:54:47] | iamlindoro: | I mean |
| [19:54:48] | iamlindoro: | erm |
| [19:54:50] | iamlindoro: | nothing |
| [19:55:03] | sphery: | you mean the ladies in your running group, I presume |
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| [19:55:15] | iamlindoro: | uh... Yeah, them! |
| [19:55:17] | jduggan: | subquake: burning to cd? |
| [19:55:20] | subquake: | yea |
| [19:55:21] | jduggan: | subquake: probably bad media ;) |
| [19:55:25] | jduggan: | common |
| [19:55:39] | subquake: | I hope that's all it was |
| [19:55:41] | sphery: | or burning too fast for the media |
| [19:55:49] | kormoc: | I know a bot, his name is iamlindoro, iamlindoro is his name... |
| [19:55:55] | meshe: | subquake: i have to burn my ubuntu cds at the slowest possible burn rate or they don't work |
| [19:55:56] | sphery: | (some media claim better capabilities than they posses) |
| [19:55:58] | subquake: | bought all these cd-rw and I get to use them once and discard... |
| [19:56:06] | sphery: | which, I suppose, could be considered bad media |
| [19:56:11] | subquake: | yea |
| [19:56:13] | iamlindoro: | kormoc, SarcasmBot |
| [19:56:20] | subquake: | I used a new one for the fc11 live and it worked fine |
| [19:56:32] | meshe: | !iamlindoro trout kormoc |
| [19:56:49] | ** iamlindoro trouts kormoc ** | |
| [19:56:57] | meshe: | wow, laggy |
| [19:57:01] | ** kormoc laughs ** | |
| [19:57:09] | iamlindoro: | (on behalf of meshe) |
| [19:57:22] | iamlindoro: | !seen common sense |
| [19:57:22] | MythLogBot: | common sense has not been seen here |
| [19:58:45] | subquake: | now before I go and re-install with mythdora, is it likely to be able to recognize my dumb tv tuner? it seems I have this one: KWorld ATSC 110 & KWorld ATSC 115 have an nxt2004 chip |
| [19:58:54] | iamlindoro: | Tonight I'm making a slow cooked shortribs topped with blue cheese, and a garlic herb sour cream mashed potatoes... I'm already hungry |
| [19:59:08] | meshe: | nice |
| [19:59:24] | subquake: | jealous! |
| [19:59:34] | kormoc: | I'm *still* waiting for our HR department to tell me if I'm covered or not in my state... |
| [19:59:36] | subquake: | I'd end up making charcoal jerky |
| [19:59:41] | iamlindoro: | subquake, the 110 and 115 work fine in linux, but as with any digital (and many analog) tuners, you will probably have to track down the firmware file |
| [19:59:58] | subquake: | thats the part I'm having a hard time with |
| [20:00:02] | subquake: | bummer |
| [20:00:10] | iamlindoro: | ISTR there's a firmware download script for that firmware |
| [20:00:23] | subquake: | uh |
| [20:00:30] | subquake: | what is ISTR? |
| [20:00:46] | iamlindoro: | I seem to recall |
| [20:00:54] | sphery: | I seem to remember it's something pretty boring... Don't know what, though. ;) |
| [20:00:56] | subquake: | thank you |
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| [20:01:29] | iamlindoro: | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_Feisty_hardware_list |
| [20:01:34] | galorin: | hids needputting to bed |
| [20:01:40] | kormoc: | and here I thought it was a integer string... |
| [20:01:44] | iamlindoro: | the get_dvb_firmware script is linked there |
| [20:01:46] | galorin: | s/h/k/ |
| [20:01:57] | ** sphery thought galorin was tucking in his mice/keyboards ** | |
| [20:01:59] | subquake: | you know, that's what I was thinking, but no... |
| [20:02:11] | kormoc: | Hungarian notation has failed me yet again! |
| [20:02:21] | iamlindoro: | (I seem to recall) that you should just need to run "perl get_dvb_firmware.pl nxt2004" |
| [20:02:51] | galorin: | iamlindoro, wish putting the kids to sleep was that easy |
| [20:03:01] | djtansey: | I am looking to deal with overscan issues on my sony 60w610 60" TV. I have an nvidia 8200 card, but the nvidia-settings tool doesn't seem to allow me to put in custom resolutions. Is there a way to limit the amount of the screen that is used, as mythtv allows you to do for its frontend? |
| [20:03:04] | iamlindoro: | and then dump the resulting firmware wherever fedora likes to see it |
| [20:03:44] | sphery: | djtansey: chances are you need to ignore some parts of the EDID data |
| [20:04:17] | sphery: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Specifying_DPI_for . . . DID_Settings |
| [20:04:30] | iamlindoro: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Comcast_Users_And_ . . . _by_Location |
| [20:04:31] | djtansey: | sphery: thanks. i will look at that. |
| [20:04:36] | iamlindoro: | Slowly getting a nice little list of VCT_IDs |
| [20:05:25] | djtansey: | sphery: how can i check if the edid includes a DPI setting? |
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| [20:10:31] | subquake: | and that perl script is in mythdora? I tried it for kix in fc11 here and it can't find it |
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| [20:11:24] | iamlindoro: | Just download the script from the link I sent you if you need it |
| [20:11:27] | meshe: | subquake: i think you missed the part of the wiki doc that says: Download this script: get_dvb_firmware |
| [20:13:30] | subquake: | duh |
| [20:13:34] | subquake: | thanks |
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| [21:53:03] | xris: | anyone ever hear of mythfilldatabase adding xmltvid fields to channels with matching channum or callsign fields? |
| [21:53:27] | wagnerrp: | yeah |
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| [21:53:40] | wagnerrp: | when i first set up digital |
| [21:53:52] | wagnerrp: | it automatically set up XMLIDs for a couple of the major network channels |
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| [22:00:26] | Ponty: | So I fixed my issue with the DB. User Input Error. *smacks forehead* |
| [22:00:28] | Ponty: | But now; |
| [22:00:30] | Ponty: | 2009-05–25 17:50:23.419 MythSocket(b2e02d68:-1): writeStringList: Error, called with unconnected socket. |
| [22:00:34] | Ponty: | Whats that all about? |
| [22:07:24] | xris: | wagnerrp: wonder how to make it happen. |
| [22:08:11] | mchou: | xris: hmm???? |
| [22:08:37] | mchou: | sorted list of matching callsigns |
| [22:08:38] | xris: | mchou: playing around with scte65scan |
| [22:08:57] | mchou: | xris: ahh. I havent played with that yet |
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| [22:09:09] | xris: | callsigns don't always match |
| [22:09:15] | mchou: | xris: but sctescan will make life a bit simpler |
| [22:09:22] | xris: | eyah |
| [22:09:29] | xris: | once it works properly and can easily tie into SD data |
| [22:09:31] | mchou: | xris: right. Best effort match |
| [22:09:37] | xris: | or once mythtv adds scte scanning directly |
| [22:10:25] | mchou: | espexially if you remove characters like '-', '_', and spaces |
| [22:11:13] | xris: | the scte data often has really long names. e.g.: DISCVR DISCOVERY CHANNEL |
| [22:11:14] | mchou: | call sign matching actually works surprising well |
| [22:11:21] | xris: | vs TMS/SD: DSCP |
| [22:11:51] | mchou: | ok. like I said I havent played with sctescan |
| [22:12:24] | mchou: | the scte data is probally generated by local cable franchises |
| [22:12:48] | xris: | correct |
| [22:12:51] | xris: | and thus is more accurate |
| [22:12:57] | xris: | it's only available on comcast |
| [22:13:00] | xris: | (for now) |
| [22:13:08] | mchou: | so you'd probably have to backreference the local franchise lineup/callsigns |
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| [22:14:20] | mchou: | there is another way to do what you're asking, of course :) |
| [22:14:43] | xris: | well, according to sctescan's author, mfdb is supposed to do it automagically |
| [22:14:51] | xris: | and since I've never heard of that happening, I figured I'd ask |
| [22:15:05] | mchou: | use callsigns from silicondust as 'translator' :) |
| [22:15:39] | mchou: | umm, that's silicondust's web site |
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| [22:21:04] | mchou: | xris: can you pastebin your sctescan output? |
| [22:21:15] | mchou: | interested in what it looks like |
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| [22:29:36] | sid3windr: | The Dbox2 always changing the channel. There are only the channel changed |
| [22:29:36] | sid3windr: | the MythTV known. |
| [22:29:37] | sid3windr: | ! |
| [22:29:47] | sid3windr: | I think the answer is no. |
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| [22:33:02] | xris: | mchou: http://forevermore.net/misc/scan.install.sql |
| [22:33:35] | xris: | mchou: although it has several different output formats. that's "install".. there's an "update" as well as raw table, and maybe a couple others. |
| [22:34:02] | mchou: | xris: that's not bad |
| [22:34:53] | mchou: | xris: nothing wrong except figuring out how to normalize callsigns betw. TMS and sctescan |
| [22:35:37] | mchou: | the "delete" sql statement isnt so cool |
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| [22:35:57] | xris: | mchou: which one? should be limited to sourceid |
| [22:36:09] | xris: | but if you dont' want that, use the "update" formt |
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| [22:36:22] | mchou: | "DELETE FROM channel WHERE sourceid=11;" |
| [22:36:27] | xris: | yeah. |
| [22:36:28] | mchou: | ahh, ok |
| [22:36:29] | xris: | that's fine. |
| [22:36:34] | xris: | or wait a few weeks and daniel will add scte scanning to mythtv itself. |
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| [22:37:49] | mchou: | xris: so you using Digital to analog converter for sctescan? |
| [22:37:59] | mchou: | I mean from comcast? |
| [22:38:17] | mchou: | or are you using motorola STB for this? |
| [22:38:29] | xris: | straight from the hdhomerun |
| [22:38:36] | mchou: | ahh, ok |
| [22:38:39] | xris: | use the STB to get the VCT_ID to know which channel list to pick up |
| [22:39:45] | MrGandalf: | I'm pulling out my hair trying to figure out why Myth is scaling my video height. For instance, 1920x1104. I have all scaling turned off and video does not use GUI size. |
| [22:40:07] | xris: | mchou: iamlindoro is forming a list on the wiki to know which is which for each zipcode, etc. |
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| [22:42:03] | wagnerrp: | oh, so thats what the VCT_ID is for, its just a list discriminator |
| [22:43:35] | mchou: | at least for comcast subscribers myth channel scanning will be a thing of the past |
| [22:44:25] | MrGandalf: | is that normal? |
| [22:44:34] | MrGandalf: | 1920x1104? |
| [22:45:43] | sphery: | MrGandalf: is 1920x1104 the video height or the height after scaling? |
| [22:46:15] | MrGandalf: | sphery: the video is 1920x1080 |
| [22:46:38] | sphery: | and you're saying it makes it taller to fit on your (presumable 16:10) screen? |
| [22:46:42] | sphery: | presumably |
| [22:47:03] | sphery: | if so, it sounds like you just need to set a DisplaySize with the appropriate 16:10 aspect ratio |
| [22:47:10] | MrGandalf: | the screen is 1920x1080 as well |
| [22:47:24] | sphery: | so where's 1920x1104 coming in? |
| [22:47:58] | MrGandalf: | that's what I'm pulling my hair out trying to figure out :) |
| [22:48:24] | gbee: | MrGandalf: look for the Xinerama display aspect setting, make sure it's 16:10 |
| [22:48:39] | sphery: | I mean where did you see something that said 1920x1104? |
| [22:48:50] | sphery: | you said video and screen are both 1920x1080, so... |
| [22:49:24] | MrGandalf: | gbee: it's 1.7777 |
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| [22:49:49] | MrGandalf: | both the display rect and video rect show 1920x1104 |
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| [22:50:40] | MrGandalf: | 480x480 video doesn't get scaled |
| [22:50:54] | MrGandalf: | but 720x480 turns into 720x496 |
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| [22:54:44] | gbee: | new one to me |
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| [23:24:29] | k-man: | is there a way to call a script after a schedule a recording? |
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| [23:26:05] | Blaidd: | Has anyone gotten Mythtv Player to work on Vista 64? |
| [23:34:38] | mchou: | Blaidd: do you think we are crazy? |
| [23:34:58] | Blaidd: | I know I certainly am :) |
| [23:35:06] | mchou: | Blaidd: why anyone would even attempt something like that is beyond me |
| [23:35:21] | mchou: | maybe unless you have on board ATI card |
| [23:35:38] | mchou: | but it's still crazy regardless |
| [23:36:06] | mchou: | you'd probably have better luck w/ windoze 7 |
| [23:36:10] | Blaidd: | mchou: because I have to use Vista 64 as my base os on the machine I spend most of my time on, and it would be nice to be able to watch stuff from my mythbox while using it.. |
| [23:36:21] | Blaidd: | Testin 7 is next on my list |
| [23:36:46] | Blaidd: | I only ask here because the forums for MythTv PLayer are pretty much dead |
| [23:36:53] | mchou: | Blaidd: I doubt anyone _has_ to use Vista 64 |
| [23:37:06] | Blaidd: | mchou: unfortunately I do, for now. |
| [23:37:14] | mchou: | yeah whatever |
| [23:37:36] | Blaidd: | mchou: I may be able to get away with running a 64 bit linux os in the future, but at the moment I can't. |
| [23:38:10] | mchou: | when I said I doubt anyone has to use Vista 64 I meant it |
| [23:38:23] | mchou: | ! Vista 64 != linux |
| [23:38:45] | Blaidd: | mchou: that's true, but XP 64 has too many drivers missing for some of the hardware I need to sue |
| [23:38:48] | Blaidd: | use* |
| [23:38:49] | mchou: | plenty of other windoze flavors around |
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