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| [00:07:22] | gbee: | anyone else have blue video with XV and recent nvidia drivers? |
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| [00:09:20] | gbee: | well I suppose to be accurate, only skin tones are blue |
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| [00:12:25] | mikeos1: | ooh look, a press release http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dfrtrw74_2ds4jnkg4 |
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| [00:13:58] | mzb: | ok, I've modified parts of gtalkbot.py to work with the mythtv python bindings to the point where I can send a jabber msg to 'mythtv' like "upcoming Play School" and it prints me a list. |
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| [00:14:19] | mzb: | (python's a new thing for me so it's taking a while) |
| [00:14:24] | GreyFoxx: | gbee: not compiled with mmx ? |
| [00:15:18] | mzb: | sound ok so far? |
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| [00:19:31] | mzb: | I do realise that I'll need to add more functions to the bindings (like record), but I'll cross that bridge when I come to it |
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| [00:21:07] | mzb: | oh, also used bits of mbot.py |
| [00:25:05] | mzb: | so the result so far has authentication + plugins |
| [00:31:16] | clever: | mzb: nice:) |
| [00:31:44] | clever: | i made a irc+msn bot in c++ a while ago, and i can add things easily |
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| [00:31:55] | mheld: | hey y'all |
| [00:31:55] | clever: | in theory, i could use libmyth to talk to the backend and do the same stuff |
| [00:32:05] | clever: | mzb: but yours is probly alot less work in total |
| [00:32:37] | kormoc: | !mzbbot AUTH MythRulez! RECORD "The Golden Girls" Priority +100 |
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| [00:33:01] | mheld: | I keep on trying to scan for channels using mythtv and dvbscan, but I'm getting an error "Failed to open frontend" when I use dvbscan and all of the channels timeout using the mythtv channel scanner |
| [00:33:25] | mheld: | also, the device I'm using is a pinnacle PCTV hd pro usb stick |
| [00:33:31] | wagnerrp: | that sounds like a driver failure |
| [00:33:36] | mheld: | i believe I've got the drivers installed |
| [00:33:43] | mheld: | i'm not getting any errors in dmesg |
| [00:33:50] | wagnerrp: | if 'scan' in dev-tools isnt running, the driver is broken |
| [00:34:07] | mheld: | oh, what? |
| [00:34:14] | mheld: | are dvbscan and scan two different things? |
| [00:34:29] | wagnerrp: | dvbscan is what it used to be called |
| [00:34:31] | wagnerrp: | now its just scan |
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| [00:34:47] | linagee: | wow I hate american idol so much |
| [00:35:02] | wagnerrp: | you lose the end of fringe? |
| [00:35:14] | linagee: | wagnerrp: I'm losing minutes watching american idol. lol |
| [00:35:20] | linagee: | wagnerrp: and I fear what you just said. lol |
| [00:35:26] | mheld: | wagnerrp: I get two completely different errors between scan and dvbscan |
| [00:35:38] | linagee: | wagnerrp: i have my mythtv offset like 3 minutes. american idol is going 6 minutes past that |
| [00:35:51] | mheld: | wagnerrp: "main:2273: FATAL: failed to open '/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0': 16 Device or resource busy" |
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| [00:36:00] | wagnerrp: | linagee: i just gave fringe a permanent 5 minute offset |
| [00:36:03] | linagee: | wagnerrp: if I were watching TV in my livingroom without a DVR, would I really have to wait 10 minutes after the hour just to see fringe? LOL |
| [00:36:06] | wagnerrp: | mheld: are you running the backend? |
| [00:36:15] | mheld: | i should be |
| [00:36:29] | wagnerrp: | not if youre trying to scan using scan, dvbscan, or the mythtv scanner |
| [00:36:32] | mheld: | i should stop that, no? |
| [00:36:35] | janneg: | wagnerrp: I think it's the other way. it was originally called scan but some distros remaned it to dvbscan due to conflicts and so it got renamed in the repo too |
| [00:36:35] | linagee: | wagnerrp: how funny that I say american idol and you say fringe. LOL. |
| [00:36:43] | linagee: | wagnerrp: psychic |
| [00:36:48] | wagnerrp: | unless told otherwise, mythbackend locks access to the tuners |
| [00:36:56] | wagnerrp: | mythtv wants dedicated access to all resources |
| [00:36:57] | mheld: | wagnerrp: thank you veeerrrrryyy much |
| [00:37:00] | mheld: | scanning now |
| [00:37:12] | linagee: | someone should hard code mythtv to do offsetting for american idol |
| [00:37:20] | mheld: | now all I have to do is import the channels |
| [00:37:21] | mheld: | and bam |
| [00:37:25] | wagnerrp: | linagee: not really, AI has been running over several minutes for the last two months |
| [00:37:30] | mheld: | i get to watch lost on my shiney new server box |
| [00:37:42] | linagee: | wagnerrp: never heard of AI |
| [00:37:56] | wagnerrp: | i didnt want to type out 'American Idol' |
| [00:38:17] | linagee: | wagnerrp: what is AI about? |
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| [00:39:00] | linagee: | wagnerrp: i'd love to single out american idol. :) not only does it go waaaay past the hour, i don't like the show. :) |
| [00:39:07] | wagnerrp: | something about network TV automatons getting up on stage for karaoke |
| [00:39:24] | linagee: | i would be super happy if my mythtv box never recorded a second of american idol |
| [00:39:52] | linagee: | wagnerrp: wait, so there's a show called AI, and it has absolutely nothing to do with sci-fi??? |
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| [01:11:50] | mzb: | clever: yeah, hope so. Combination of pyxmpp and mythtv bindings should make it relatively easy. |
| [01:12:16] | clever: | i made my bot mainly in Qt |
| [01:12:28] | clever: | good for learning the ins&outs of qt itself |
| [01:12:34] | mzb: | need to add "find" and "record" functions to mythtv bindings |
| [01:12:43] | clever: | a good deal of it uses(or abuses) the qt event loops |
| [01:12:54] | mzb: | heh |
| [01:13:23] | clever: | im currently in the process of adding the mythtv telnet proto to it |
| [01:13:31] | clever: | so i can remotely control mythfrontend from irc |
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| [01:14:02] | mzb: | that was the weakness (different purpose) in gtalkbot |
| [01:14:05] | clever: | no problems with the code on the first try:D |
| [01:14:12] | clever: | its dumping everything to stdout! |
| [01:14:20] | clever: | 06 22:13:51 <@clever> !mythtvc theP4 |
| [01:14:28] | clever: | "MythFrontend Network Control |
| [01:14:53] | clever: | now i just need to relay the output to irc, which is relatively simple |
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| [01:14:55] | mzb: | from gtalkbot module mythtv.py: This plugin implements the MythTV on screen display and telnet functionality in a simple example mbot bot. |
| [01:15:11] | clever: | ahh:D |
| [01:15:17] | mzb: | time for shave .. got a meeting (and a 4yo to get out of the bath) .. gtg |
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| [01:19:01] | pac1: | I've got captions on but lines of caption are not being erased before the next line appears. (works in ntsc, not in atsc) |
| [01:20:29] | pac1: | Its writing two lines, one a few scan lines below the first. |
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| [01:29:39] | clever: | mzb: http://privatepaste.com/b90k5OhW9S http://privatepaste.com/50uM9VQHRK |
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| [01:31:57] | clever: | mzb: its basicaly a crude relay but i can add more with little work |
| [01:32:22] | mzb: | neat |
| [01:32:35] | clever: | that code will work on irc and maybe msn |
| [01:32:45] | clever: | the framework in the background handles both seamlessly |
| [01:32:47] | mzb: | neater than http://privatepaste.com/b0fYjOHoR9 |
| [01:33:08] | mzb: | (which is the plugin part to suit my heavily modified gtalkbot) |
| [01:33:28] | clever: | i dont know much python |
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| [01:34:37] | clever: | i see you had to add a special case to do the 'query recording' which i planned to add to 'query location' |
| [01:34:40] | deminished: | hi which is the most feature rich live myth tv iso ? |
| [01:34:41] | clever: | i had to do it manualy |
| [01:35:11] | kormoc: | There're all about the same, just a frontend with the standard plugins |
| [01:35:23] | kormoc: | and unlikely what you are after |
| [01:35:28] | deminished: | ok thanks |
| [01:42:56] | mzb: | clever: the hard part now is that I need to add find and record to the bindings, and some contextually logic command parsing in the bot |
| [01:43:01] | mzb: | bbl |
| [01:46:29] | clever: | yeah |
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| [02:02:32] | squidly: | is anyone here knowledgable about the Antec Fusion Black case with the Soundgraph IR/LCD system? I can get the LCD working, but when I try to start the IR system I dont get any controls working |
| [02:02:54] | squidly: | running a mode2 agaist the control works, and I see code, but I dont see anything else. |
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| [02:10:14] | dannz: | trying to find a solution for this -> //www.mailinglistarchive.com/mythtv-users@mythtv.org/msg84932.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.mailinglistarchive.com/mythtv-user . . . sg84932.html |
| [02:11:46] | dannz: | getting the following error: |
| [02:11:47] | dannz: | MythSocket(98d26e0:12): writeStringList: Error, invalid string list. |
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| [02:19:47] | dan__: | sigh :( |
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| [02:39:50] | user1: | Hi, I'm getting a black screen when I go to watch tv. Could someone help me to debug this? I have two capture cards, the channel scanner found channels and I beleive the correct ones for my cable comapny |
| [02:39:50] | user1: | sound is also not working |
| [02:40:12] | user1: | TV Error: LiveTV not successfully started |
| [02:41:08] | user1: | Perhaps this is a ATI driver thing,, I didn't do anything with the video drivers |
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| [02:44:19] | Demerzel: | hello folks |
| [02:44:20] | user1: | I'm not sure how to tell what video driver is loaded, the screen looks great though |
| [02:44:50] | user1: | Hi Demerzel, I'm a newb, this channel is very slow |
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| [02:45:04] | Demerzel: | anyone know if there's a capture card I can use with my MythTV setup to capture component video off a STB? |
| [02:45:39] | Demerzel: | it's probably slow due to the time of day |
| [02:45:48] | Demerzel: | plus nhl playoffs |
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| [02:45:52] | Demerzel: | possibly :) |
| [02:46:00] | RyeBrye: | squidly: the IR for soundgraph has 2 lirc devices that you have to read from |
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| [02:46:26] | RyeBrye: | squidly: you have to set it up to read from both or it wont work |
| [02:46:55] | Demerzel: | i'll say this |
| [02:47:09] | Demerzel: | i bought a veris multimedia station a few weeks back |
| [02:47:17] | Demerzel: | a rebranded soundgraph it seems |
| [02:47:27] | Demerzel: | and it was a royal pain |
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| [02:47:40] | Demerzel: | ended up removing it from the equation altogether |
| [02:48:08] | Demerzel: | irrecord wouldn't even work consistently to generate a config file for the remote |
| [02:51:16] | squidly: | RyeBrye: yea I got it working |
| [02:51:24] | squidly: | now to get myth to read the inputs |
| [02:51:39] | RyeBrye: | .lircrc |
| [02:52:33] | RyeBrye: | Demerzel: anyone know if there's a capture card I can use with my MythTV setup to capture component video off a STB? |
| [02:52:54] | RyeBrye: | Demerzel: I'll take that soundgraph off your hands for $5 ;) |
| [02:53:01] | RyeBrye: | Demerzel: yes, the HD-PVR |
| [02:53:01] | user1: | I'm getting a black screen when I try to watch lve tv, does anyone know how to troubleshoot this? |
| [02:53:12] | Demerzel: | RyeBrye: yeah just reading up on that now ... have you used one? |
| [02:53:30] | squidly: | RyeBrye: RyeBrye in ~/.lircrc or ~/.mythtv or where? |
| [02:53:34] | Demerzel: | RyeBrye: returned that sucker within the time allowed, sorry :) |
| [02:53:39] | RyeBrye: | no, I haven't. A handful of regulars in here have. You need to run the bleeding edge |
| [02:53:45] | RyeBrye: | mythtv trunk |
| [02:53:48] | RyeBrye: | squidly: let me check, one sec |
| [02:53:51] | Demerzel: | ah |
| [02:53:52] | squidly: | RyeBrye: ty :D |
| [02:53:52] | wagnerrp: | Demerzel: it still has some bugs, and its only on trunk |
| [02:54:01] | Demerzel: | so no luck if i'm using mythbuntu |
| [02:54:20] | Demerzel: | or some such where i'd like to keep a consumer grade stable-ish setup |
| [02:54:34] | squidly: | Demerzel: I'm using mythbuntu |
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| [02:54:59] | squidly: | I've got a soundgrapch in my HTPC box |
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| [02:55:06] | squidly: | just finishing up the reomte config now |
| [02:55:07] | RyeBrye: | squidly: in ~/.mythtv/lircrc |
| [02:55:11] | Demerzel: | nice |
| [02:55:14] | RyeBrye: | squidly: here is my lircrc file for my soundgraph imon |
| [02:55:15] | RyeBrye: | http://pastebin.com/d1248fc9 |
| [02:55:34] | RyeBrye: | the button names probably dont line up with yours but you get the idea |
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| [02:55:50] | squidly: | RyeBrye: rock on ty! |
| [02:56:23] | squidly: | RyeBrye: you are using the imon_pad? (rm200? |
| [02:56:29] | RyeBrye: | I can post my soungraph config too – it wont have any nobs but you can compare the codes and you could copy and paste the ones for the buttons if you want |
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| [02:57:08] | RyeBrye: | I think I have the 15c2 0038 version |
| [02:57:26] | squidly: | RyeBrye: Bus 003 Device 002: ID 15c2:0038 SoundGraph Inc. |
| [02:57:32] | squidly: | I think we have the same one ;) |
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| [02:58:04] | RyeBrye: | I dont have dials on my case, but they are probably the same |
| [02:58:27] | squidly: | I have on big wheel, but I'm not planning on using it for anything right now |
| [02:59:14] | RyeBrye: | http://pastebin.com/d10c4a482 |
| [02:59:20] | RyeBrye: | that is my /etc/lircd.conf file |
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| [03:00:02] | RyeBrye: | Look at the length of the codes before using it. That one is set to use the long buffer – which is necessary for the imon_pad if you want to use the dials but some earlier versions of the driver got by only using the short buffers and truncating the codes |
| [03:00:09] | RyeBrye: | If you are runnign the lirc cvs you would have the newest code |
| [03:00:38] | squidly: | yea I'm using the cvs lirc |
| [03:00:41] | RyeBrye: | ok, good |
| [03:01:00] | squidly: | the lircd that came with mythbuntu didnt have the drivers |
| [03:01:55] | RyeBrye: | The working stuff has been in cvs for a while, but they are focused on getting stuff ready to merge into the kernel I believe and they haven't done any releases since last october |
| [03:02:42] | squidly: | yea same here |
| [03:02:50] | squidly: | it will be nice for it to get merged with the kernel |
| [03:02:59] | squidly: | make the driver section a lot easier to handel |
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| [03:04:17] | RyeBrye: | if you just drop that lircd.conf into /etc/lircd.conf and that lircrc into ~/.mythtv/lircrc and start myth all the main buttons shouldwork |
| [03:04:30] | squidly: | ok cool |
| [03:04:32] | squidly: | I will do that |
| [03:04:43] | RyeBrye: | although you will want to tweak them to your liking. (For instance, I like timestretch so I have the buttons directly to the right and left of the big pad increasing and decreasing timestretch) |
| [03:06:17] | squidly: | well that will be done later |
| [03:06:33] | squidly: | right now I just want it to work so that I can get rid of the blasted keyboard and coax ;) |
| [03:06:58] | RyeBrye: | http://www.ronfrazier.net/mythtv/#MythTVImonServer This guy has a cool project that uses the iMon more fully than LCDproc does |
| [03:07:14] | RyeBrye: | I'm not running it right now, but I played with it a while ago |
| [03:07:59] | squidly: | RyeBrye: I found that page a month or 2 ago |
| [03:08:06] | squidly: | and I could not find after! |
| [03:08:07] | squidly: | ty |
| [03:08:09] | squidly: | brb |
| [03:08:13] | squidly: | time to check things out |
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| [03:11:35] | user1: | I just tried cat /etc/video0 > /some_file.mpg |
| [03:11:39] | user1: | This works |
| [03:12:01] | user1: | I think this means my video driver is busted? |
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| [03:22:01] | squidly: | RyeBrye: Failed to read lirc config /home/craig/.mythtv/lircrc for mythtv |
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| [03:22:56] | Demerzel: | craig? who's craig? |
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| [03:23:17] | squidly: | a blank user I setup for my frontend |
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| [03:25:14] | RyeBrye: | squidly: strange. Oh, I have that as a symbolic link pointing to ~/.lirc/mythtv |
| [03:25:19] | RyeBrye: | not sur why |
| [03:25:59] | RyeBrye: | but in ~/.mythtv/ I see lircrc -> ../.lirc/mythtv when I ls -al |
| [03:26:15] | squidly: | yea I had that to |
| [03:26:26] | squidly: | let me try it again |
| [03:28:01] | Demerzel: | ok folks |
| [03:28:04] | Demerzel: | i'm outta here |
| [03:28:05] | RyeBrye: | dunno. works for me |
| [03:28:07] | squidly: | later Demerzel |
| [03:28:08] | Demerzel: | g'night |
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| [03:28:19] | RyeBrye: | Maybe make sure you copied it right? (i.e. the version in the edit box without the line numbers) |
| [03:28:25] | squidly: | RyeBrye: mythtv: bad file format, /home/craig/.mythtv/lircrc:18 |
| [03:28:31] | squidly: | I wonder if somethign didnt copy right |
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| [03:28:37] | RyeBrye: | possibly |
| [03:28:42] | RyeBrye: | line 18? |
| [03:28:49] | tank-man: | maybe look at what line 18 says |
| [03:29:01] | squidly: | prog = mythtv |
| [03:29:20] | tank-man: | or the lines around it |
| [03:29:49] | RyeBrye: | http://pastebin.com/d58a7df74 |
| [03:29:51] | tank-man: | bad format, so correct it |
| [03:29:55] | RyeBrye: | There – now that's base64 formatted :) |
| [03:30:07] | RyeBrye: | It might have been tabs or somethign screwing it up |
| [03:30:16] | RyeBrye: | you shuold be able to un-base64 encode that pastebin and get an exact copy |
| [03:30:20] | squidly: | yea |
| [03:30:25] | squidly: | let me get it and unbase it |
| [03:30:37] | RyeBrye: | the md5sum of it is 34154a2c97446a5233f3b4286a860fdf |
| [03:31:08] | squidly: | RyeBrye: md5sum lircrc |
| [03:31:08] | squidly: | e4aaa2d4f01519387d6ba56a15e3869c lircrc |
| [03:31:16] | squidly: | oh wait let me unbase it |
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| [03:31:38] | RyeBrye: | its named mythtv in ~/.lircrc |
| [03:31:47] | RyeBrye: | so I have that file in ~/.lircrc/mythtv |
| [03:31:50] | tank-man: | eh, why are you encoding a plaintext file ? |
| [03:32:13] | RyeBrye: | tank-man: for giggles |
| [03:32:43] | squidly: | hmm |
| [03:32:53] | RyeBrye: | and then ~/.mythtv/lircrc is a symbolic link pointing to it |
| [03:33:11] | squidly: | RyeBrye: i'm getting invalid input |
| [03:33:23] | squidly: | did you just base64 the file? |
| [03:33:34] | RyeBrye: | yeah |
| [03:33:45] | user1: | can anyone tell me what DPMS is? as in "DPMS Deavtivated" |
| [03:33:48] | RyeBrye: | what is the md5sum of the base65 -d version? |
| [03:33:57] | RyeBrye: | user1: dynamic power molestation system |
| [03:34:06] | squidly: | e4aaa2d4f01519387d6ba56a15e3869c |
| [03:34:23] | squidly: | RyeBrye: are you on a 64bit or a 32 bit system? |
| [03:34:28] | RyeBrye: | 64bit |
| [03:34:31] | squidly: | same here |
| [03:34:49] | user1: | RyeBrye: Are you joking? |
| [03:34:50] | RyeBrye: | Strange. |
| [03:34:56] | squidly: | yea very strange |
| [03:35:00] | squidly: | user1: no he's not |
| [03:35:14] | squidly: | DPMS is a nice thing to have if you can have it :) |
| [03:35:35] | tank-man: | user1, its for power management of the monitor |
| [03:35:52] | tank-man: | auto off, scrn saver, etc |
| [03:35:56] | user1: | huh, ok |
| [03:36:03] | user1: | I guess that's not the problem them |
| [03:36:43] | squidly: | its not a problem but a nice then when you can use it |
| [03:37:18] | RyeBrye: | the only difference I see is that the "escape button" line around 267 is off- it has /tabs and I had spaces in mine |
| [03:37:24] | RyeBrye: | (in the original pastebin) |
| [03:37:29] | user1: | I was hoping that would lead to my error, looks like I just have the more generic TV Error: to work with |
| [03:37:48] | squidly: | RyeBrye: hmm |
| [03:38:00] | squidly: | perhaps a tr may fix it |
| [03:38:12] | Pontiac: | Can anyone tell me how to fix this: |
| [03:38:18] | Pontiac: | WARNING: multiple channel mappings for 'CFTM' |
| [03:38:18] | Pontiac: | WARNING: Multiple channel mappings found, please adjust Schedules Direct lineup |
| [03:38:45] | Pontiac: | I've been through the channel list twice and can't seem to find the duplicate, other than channel 26 USED to be doubly assigned. |
| [03:40:15] | RyeBrye: | squidly: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Imon#Configure_LIRC_for_the_iMON_PAD is where I got the original lircrc that I modified |
| [03:40:26] | squidly: | RyeBrye: okies I though to |
| [03:40:27] | Pontiac: | hmmm.. Stand by.. Just noticed I can delete the channel on the web site. |
| [03:40:27] | squidly: | so* |
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| [03:40:30] | RyeBrye: | DONT use his lircd.conf file though – since it's useing the odl (short_ buffer |
| [03:40:48] | squidly: | yea I didnt use that one |
| [03:40:51] | squidly: | it broke lirc |
| [03:41:43] | RyeBrye: | Yeah, I should edit that wiki someday and remove the barnacles. That page is a mess |
| [03:42:53] | venger: | should i expect audio to drop out on a seperate frontend when mythcommflag is running on the backend against the same recording being watched? the issue seems to have cleared up as soon as mythcommflag disappeared from the top list on the backend |
| [03:43:32] | RyeBrye: | not unless you are running on clevers hardware |
| [03:44:11] | squidly: | RyeBrye: if I can get this working I will be golden for a little while :) |
| [03:44:13] | clever: | RyeBrye: my hardware doesnt do that:P |
| [03:44:28] | clever: | RyeBrye: i can run 5 transcode jobs and several playbacks at once without a problem |
| [03:44:44] | clever: | but i dont have enough people in the house to ever put such a load on it:P |
| [03:45:43] | venger: | its just weird only audio was affected yet the video didn't miss a beat |
| [03:46:55] | clever: | video will often lag behind up to 30 seconds without any noticable skiping before the audio starts to suffer(stuff i noticed with mplayer) |
| [03:47:03] | clever: | not shure how mythtv would handle that |
| [03:47:10] | squidly: | RyeBrye: yea its something in there |
| [03:47:21] | squidly: | brb time to go to frontand and try to fix it |
| [03:47:38] | Pontiac: | How come people have a lot of problems with mplayer, yet, I haven't had a single issue with it between rips and DVDs? |
| [03:49:10] | user1: | I got it working.. |
| [03:49:29] | user1: | its really really slow though, not watchable |
| [03:50:06] | Pontiac: | At least you can watch TV... So far nadda for me. Not even a blank screen! |
| [03:50:45] | user1: | I think its a database issue |
| [03:50:52] | user1: | for you |
| [03:51:07] | user1: | why dont you poke around |
| [03:51:23] | venger: | this shows up in the log when it happens "NVP::AddAudioData():p2: Audio buffer overflow, audio data lost!" |
| [03:51:26] | Pontiac: | I'm validating your thought by letting the database update. ;) |
| [03:52:15] | Pontiac: | Nope. Nadda. Just flashes. |
| [03:52:19] | Led-Hed: | what is the port number to check a backends status? |
| [03:52:35] | Led-Hed: | via a web browser. |
| [03:52:59] | meshe: | 6544 |
| [03:53:02] | Led-Hed: | thanks |
| [03:53:43] | Pontiac: | hmmm.. Wonder if its VNC thats causing this problem |
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| [03:53:51] | Pontiac: | 06/05/2009 23:53:22 trapped RECORD XError: unknown 216/25/12 (0xb7b4702c) |
| [03:53:51] | Pontiac: | 06/05/2009 23:53:23 trapped RECORD XError: unknown 235/24/0 (0x1) |
| [03:56:18] | user1: | suddenly I'm seenibg gnome over the TV, is that a setting somewhere? |
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| [03:57:43] | Pontiac: | Nope. All it does is open then close. |
| [04:03:04] | squidly: | RyeBrye: that happens even if I pull out everything |
| [04:03:11] | squidly: | only now it shows up at line:1 |
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| [04:07:09] | dannz: | anyone know what causes MythSocket(98d26e0:12): writeStringList: Error, invalid string list. |
| [04:08:41] | tank-man: | invalid string list :) |
| [04:08:51] | tank-man: | maybe look at the few lines before it |
| [04:10:29] | Pontiac: | Is there a way I can validate whether or not this software will read a video stream from the video card? lspci shows that the device is there, but, the TV option just doesn't work. |
| [04:11:03] | user1: | cat /dev/video > /tmp/file.mpg |
| [04:11:41] | dannz: | tank-man, it says it then, "slave back"end no longer connected |
| [04:11:51] | dannz: | its something to do with my master/slave setup |
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| [04:16:03] | squidly: | RyeBrye: it was something with config file as dled from pastbing |
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| [04:18:30] | Pontiac: | user1> Didn't work. It wrote the file, but, it wouldn't play the mpg file. |
| [04:19:47] | tank-man: | I believe that only works if you have a hardware mpeg encoder |
| [04:20:58] | user1: | i have a huagepaugh 150 |
| [04:21:14] | user1: | i dont know if it is an encoder or not |
| [04:21:21] | user1: | i didnt think it was |
| [04:21:29] | tank-man: | yes it is |
| [04:21:35] | user1: | sweet |
| [04:21:42] | tank-man: | mpeg2 hardware encoder |
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| [04:22:47] | Pontiac: | Alright, so the machine sees that the card is there (ASUS TV-FM 7135 – saa7134) and although Mythbuntu sees that its got a Television, Composite and S-Video inputs, all three are showing NONE. I have the cable plugged in. |
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| [04:24:11] | dannz: | my slave backend keeps disconnecting.. http://www.pastebin.ca/1414990 |
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| [04:27:08] | user1: | wow, the desktop effects beryl slowed mythtv waaay down |
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| [04:30:58] | Pontiac: | THATS the name of the GUI driver. I always installed COMPIZ but could NEVER figure out why the hell I'd never have the options for the visual effects. |
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| [04:33:39] | clever: | lol |
| [04:35:10] | Pontiac: | Well, looks as though I'm out of luck for these two tuner cards. >:[ |
| [04:41:28] | Pontiac: | .. although I did just find this page: http://www.marknmel.com/viewblog/?p=157 |
| [04:41:35] | Pontiac: | I may be able to convince it to work. |
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| [04:43:18] | pembo13: | is there anything I cna do about "All encoder MPG stream buffers are full. Dropping data" ? |
| [04:43:30] | pembo13: | i lost half a show apperently due to this |
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| [05:26:46] | benc-: | I've got a "mythcommflag -j 13167 -V 3" running that's only using half a cpu-core. %25 total on a dual core. overall %75 idle 1% iowait. 3% system memory used by mythcommflag. niced to 0. any options that could cause this? |
| [05:27:53] | at0m|c: | benc-: maybe the disk is bottleneck, and not CPU? mythcommflag isn't very CPU intensive, it just quickly scans through the file |
| [05:28:32] | at0m|c: | benc-: on my machine it uses only a couple % CPU too.. |
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| [05:31:59] | benc-: | that would make sense, but seems unlikely. tv spool is on a drive that hdparm tests at 70–90MB/s. and I don't think that disk is doing anything but mythcommflag. |
| [05:33:11] | benc-: | or maybe it really does use that much disk bandwidth per cpu usage. perhaps I'll experiment with more mythcommflag instances simultaneously. it's just running one now. |
| [05:40:43] | benc-: | "iostat -mx 5" says 3–4 %util for the spool drive. less for other drives. |
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| [05:50:09] | benc-: | found solution. cpu usage option under mythtv-setup. seems mythcommflag does internal waiting. not just niced 17 by default. |
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| [06:06:05] | Pontiac: | Know what I find really funny? |
| [06:06:29] | Pontiac: | I purchased this tuner card a few years ago, at about the same time I picked up my P4B800-Deluxe motherboard. |
| [06:06:53] | Pontiac: | Problem was that for whatever reason, when I had the card running in XP, I could watch what I wanted, but as soon as I closed the window, my machine would hard lock. |
| [06:07:22] | Pontiac: | Well, I'm beating this thing up in Mythbuntu on the exact same motherboard, and I've not had one issue. |
| [06:07:39] | Pontiac: | Ironic how a `windows only` tuner card from ASUS seems to work better in Linux. |
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| [06:43:25] | at0m|c: | Pontiac: 8) Btw, most routers also say "system requirements: Win or Mac", as if networking were OS dependant.. |
| [06:44:29] | Pontiac: | Thats only because it comes with totally useless software to RUN on those machines. ;) |
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| [06:48:46] | at0m|c: | Always wondered what extra's such software would give, compared to the options from the router's http config page. Bit like the 300MB HP printer "driver software" people love to install, I guess |
| [06:49:13] | Pontiac: | Looking forward to them HP printer driver DVDs. :/ |
| [06:49:22] | at0m|c: | ew |
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| [06:53:07] | Pontiac: | I'm working on getting my tuner card up and running. Figured out how to get the damned thing running... Now trying to figure out why the hell I'm getting frame skips and audio pauses every few seconds. |
| [06:53:17] | Pontiac: | Its a decent machine. |
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| [07:01:29] | at0m|c: | Pontiac: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/User_Manual:Detail . . . ontend#Audio – Aggressive sound card buffering maybe ? |
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| [07:02:51] | at0m|c: | Pontiac: for stuttering every couple seconds, do you have any background processes using lots of resources? updatedb (usually runs after boot) or so |
| [07:03:14] | Pontiac: | Top isn't showing much of anything else other than frontend chewing up some CPU. |
| [07:03:33] | Pontiac: | All I'm doing is pulling from the tuner, not recording anything. |
| [07:03:44] | Pontiac: | The audio also sounds extremely garbled. |
| [07:03:48] | at0m|c: | maybe a samplerate problem? |
| [07:03:57] | at0m|c: | ie. 44.1/48kHz mismatch |
| [07:03:59] | Pontiac: | Possibly. Just reading over the link you gave me. |
| [07:04:08] | Pontiac: | I did have it set for 32000. |
| [07:04:17] | at0m|c: | try 44.1 |
| [07:04:51] | Pontiac: | As much as I DIDN'T want VNC to be running on this machine, I'm so glad it IS running. heh |
| [07:05:16] | Pontiac: | Now its set for 44100. The Audio Device is set to dsp1 instead of just dsp... |
| [07:05:19] | Pontiac: | Wonder what the diff is. |
| [07:05:55] | Pontiac: | stephen@distro:/dev$ ls -ltr | grep -i dsp |
| [07:05:55] | Pontiac: | crw-rw----+ 1 root audio 14, 12 2009-05–07 02:39 adsp |
| [07:05:55] | Pontiac: | crw-rw----+ 1 root audio 14, 3 2009-05–07 02:39 dsp |
| [07:05:55] | Pontiac: | crw-rw----+ 1 root audio 14, 19 2009-05–07 02:39 dsp1 |
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| [07:06:41] | at0m|c: | Pontiac: not sure, trial and error would tell the difference :> |
| [07:08:14] | Pontiac: | Alright.. So changed it to go to dsp instead of dsp, confirmed its running at 44100... NOW I'm running audio at about a second late. heh |
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| [07:12:24] | at0m|c: | Pontiac: audio _offset_ is easy to overcome, check the keybinding for changing the player's offset |
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| [07:20:39] | ninharp: | morning |
| [07:20:49] | ninharp: | it's possible to use an old bt878 tuner card (v4l supported) in mythtv? cause if tried a lot of thinks but it doesnt open the LiveTV! and in status it said Tuner 1 not present and Tuner 2 not present ;( |
| [07:21:00] | ninharp: | anyone what i have to do that it work? all other things work fine |
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| [07:23:57] | cesman: | ninharp: yes, it is possible |
| [07:24:14] | cesman: | ninharp: you need to investigate your logs |
| [07:24:26] | cesman: | ninharp: depending on distro, start looking in /var/log/mythtv |
| [07:24:57] | ninharp: | is there any problem if i got no EPG? |
| [07:27:25] | ninharp: | which log? |
| [07:27:52] | ninharp: | mythbackend.log is the only one which has content |
| [07:29:09] | ninharp: | brb |
| [07:29:56] | cesman: | doh! |
| [07:30:07] | ** cesman thinks perhaps he should rest his head... ** | |
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| [07:50:00] | Pontiac: | ... what have they been doing for the last decade then? |
| [07:50:20] | wagnerrp: | faffing about |
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| [08:37:20] | OpenMedia: | Anyone here tried out the DVB version of the HDHomeRun? |
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| [08:42:27] | ninharp: | cesman: whats wrong with my sentence? |
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| [11:18:45] | XiXaQ: | have I understood correctly, that Myth can be used to stream video from an analog tv tuner to another machine on the network? |
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| [11:20:12] | sulx: | thats the most basic thing it does |
| [11:21:22] | XiXaQ: | nice! :) |
| [11:22:26] | tank-man: | basic? doesnt tivo have patents on stuff like that |
| [11:23:10] | XiXaQ: | I've had a tv card for years, but the media center that came with it, a Windows thingie from Pinnacle, was too slow and Linux didn't support the card at the time, so I stuffed it away. A few days ago, I decided to give it another shot, and discovered that it worked perfectly out of the box with Ubuntu and tvtime. |
| [11:23:33] | XiXaQ: | being able to stream tv from my desktop to my laptop would be very cool. |
| [11:24:34] | sulx: | vlc can do that als |
| [11:25:24] | sulx: | tank-man: patent for streaming video? =) |
| [11:25:33] | XiXaQ: | really? I couldn't get vlc to use my tv tuner at all. |
| [11:25:56] | sulx: | really |
| [11:26:23] | tank-man: | TiVo sued EchoStar in 2004 for violating a patent on a "multimedia time warping system," which involved recording a program on one channel while watching another. |
| [11:26:44] | sulx: | O_o |
| [11:26:45] | tank-man: | this is from 2006 http://news.cnet.com/2100-1047_3-6061104.html |
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| [12:12:17] | ninharp: | hi |
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| [12:22:01] | ninharp: | cesman: i have log files now! and it seems that it cant find any program |
| [12:22:12] | ninharp: | now one tuner is present |
| [12:22:32] | ninharp: | but the screen is getting dark for a few ms and then switched back to menu |
| [12:22:59] | ninharp: | the log said.. |
| [12:23:02] | ninharp: | 2009-05–07 14:16:53.923 TV: Attempting to change from None to WatchingLiveTV |
| [12:23:05] | ninharp: | 2009-05–07 14:16:53.925 Using protocol version 40 |
| [12:23:08] | ninharp: | 2009-05–07 14:16:55.043 GetEntryAt(-1) failed. |
| [12:23:11] | ninharp: | 2009-05–07 14:16:55.045 EntryToProgram(0@Do Jan 1 01:00:00 1970) failed to get pginfo |
| [12:23:14] | ninharp: | 2009-05–07 14:16:55.046 TV Error: LiveTV not successfully started |
| [12:23:17] | ninharp: | 2009-05–07 14:16:55.046 TV Error: LiveTV not successfully started |
| [12:23:19] | ninharp: | 2009-05–07 14:16:55.130 TV: Deleting TV Chain in destructor |
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| [13:11:53] | tank-man: | ninharp, did you go thru mythtv-setup and setup your tv tuner? |
| [13:12:40] | ninharp: | yep |
| [13:13:01] | ninharp: | but i live in germany and so i think i cannot get tv information over xmltv |
| [13:13:21] | ninharp: | or is this not relevant |
| [13:14:09] | tank-man: | im not sure. |
| [13:14:30] | tank-man: | even without tv guide info, you should still be able to view the video |
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| [13:15:06] | ninharp: | i think so |
| [13:15:17] | ninharp: | but it says ever i had to run mythfilldatabase |
| [13:15:34] | ninharp: | but it makes nothing here cause no xmltv |
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| [13:17:29] | tank-man: | i think you need to scan for channels or use mythfilldatabase to tell it what channels you have first |
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| [13:22:58] | ninharp: | ive scanned already |
| [13:22:58] | ninharp: | the channels are present in the konfiguration |
| [13:22:58] | ninharp: | i can set priorities and so on |
| [13:22:59] | tank-man: | Does the tv tuner card work outside of mythtv? does it work with mplayer ? |
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| [13:56:58] | kslater1: | testing 1 2 3 |
| [13:58:52] | Cancel: | 3 2 1 |
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| [13:59:51] | kslater1: | thanks Cancel, at least I know my client is working |
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| [15:04:59] | squidly: | anyone know of internal blu-ray playwers that work well? |
| [15:05:03] | squidly: | I may want to get one |
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| [15:14:02] | CyberKnet: | aah, the idle part of the seen command is nice. |
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| [15:15:18] | CyberKnet: | Always kills me when I'm in a channel and an authorized user uses a command like that, and then 10,000 people try it and it doesn't work for them. SO, for your amusement... |
| [15:15:24] | CyberKnet: | !seen Beirdo |
| [15:15:24] | MythLogBot: | Beirdo is here and has been idle for 2 days 18 hours 54 minutes 17 seconds |
| [15:15:33] | CyberKnet: | well, no amusement for you guys, I suppose. |
| [15:15:53] | CyberKnet: | !my !command !worked! |
| [15:16:06] | J-e-f-f-A: | !seen CyberKnet |
| [15:16:06] | MythLogBot: | CyberKnet is here and has been idle for 13 seconds |
| [15:16:12] | J-e-f-f-A: | ;-) |
| [15:16:14] | CyberKnet: | heh |
| [15:16:26] | Cancel: | it's not unusual to be in a channel and !seen not require any special authorization |
| [15:17:21] | sid3windr: | it's not unusual to be loved by anyone |
| [15:19:51] | Cancel: | that depends on who you are, are you actually loveable if so no problem, if you're prickly then ...... |
| [15:20:11] | CyberKnet: | Not that we'd name names ... dagmar. |
| [15:20:16] | CyberKnet: | =P" |
| [15:24:52] | Cancel: | just throw him under the bus why don't you |
| [15:25:00] | Cancel: | back it up and forth a few times too while your'e at it |
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| [15:26:52] | CyberKnet: | hi stuart |
| [15:27:01] | stuarta: | afternoon |
| [15:27:08] | CyberKnet: | how are you today? |
| [15:27:29] | CyberKnet: | Cancel: Maybe he was the "actually lovable" part of that example... ? |
| [15:27:52] | CyberKnet: | whoops. forgot the e. |
| [15:28:31] | ** J-e-f-f-A thinks you left off off on purpose. ;-) ** | |
| [15:28:38] | CyberKnet: | heheheh |
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| [15:33:36] | J-e-f-f-A: | [ot] – Any of you guys/gals have a recommendation for a decent WYSIWYG html editor – preferrably open source – but even a 'shareware' or pay one would be ok if it's good... ;-) |
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| [15:37:44] | meshe: | J-e-f-f-A: Nvu |
| [15:38:09] | meshe: | J-e-f-f-A: KompoZer |
| [15:38:18] | meshe: | http://webdesign.about.com/od/htmleditors/tp/aatpwyslinux.htm |
| [15:38:50] | meshe: | Dreamweaver is still the best, but it's about $300 |
| [15:38:56] | J-e-f-f-A: | meshe: Yeah, tried them... They seem ok on the surface, but seem to have issues — they don't always upload things properly and leave the web site goofed up... :-( |
| [15:39:29] | meshe: | don't upload with an editor, upload manually |
| [15:39:47] | J-e-f-f-A: | meshe: I can edit web pages with just a text editor – but trying to come up with a way for my pastor to be able to edit the web site (at least part of it) easily... |
| [15:40:27] | stuarta: | that's why i ended up using something like geeklog |
| [15:40:32] | stuarta: | for the whole site |
| [15:40:53] | CyberKnet: | I use a CMS for things like that. |
| [15:41:10] | meshe: | yeah, a CMS would be best for that, Joomla, Drupal, Wordpress... |
| [15:41:15] | CyberKnet: | Umbraco |
| [15:41:30] | ** CyberKnet checks to make sure he wore his asbestos suit ** | |
| [15:42:14] | J-e-f-f-A: | meshe: any winblows recommendations? 'cause I'm the only one running Linux... ;-) |
| [15:42:39] | meshe: | you install those on the site and access the editors through a browser |
| [15:42:43] | CyberKnet: | Yeah. |
| [15:43:11] | CyberKnet: | Umbraco is a CMS that runs on windows/ASP.NET, Joomla and Drupal will run on a LAMP setup |
| [15:43:23] | CyberKnet: | not sure what WordPress needs. |
| [15:43:51] | meshe: | i don't think any of them require the L or |
| [15:43:54] | meshe: | A in LAMP |
| [15:44:00] | J-e-f-f-A: | cool, thanks guys/gals. ;-) Time to research them... ;-) |
| [15:44:11] | CyberKnet: | meshe: aah yes, my mistake. |
| [15:44:50] | meshe: | CyberKnet: no mistake, your statement was correct, i was just clarifying |
| [15:45:04] | CyberKnet: | :) |
| [15:45:26] | CyberKnet: | While no mistake was technically made, it was definitely thought. heh,. |
| [15:45:48] | J-e-f-f-A: | Some script kiddie grew our gestbook with useless entries — 17MB... ;-) |
| [15:45:56] | CyberKnet: | That was nice of him. |
| [15:46:20] | meshe: | Captcha |
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| [15:46:42] | J-e-f-f-A: | Yeah... I haven't done any 'serious' html coding in like 5+ years... ;-) so I've got some catching up to do... |
| [15:47:55] | meshe: | most of my HTML is done in vi as a skeleton/template for the web design team to make look good, if I need to do anything more complicated I use Dreamweaver |
| [15:49:09] | J-e-f-f-A: | meshe: Hehe... I've done about 99% of my web stuff with "notepad.exe" on windows, or a simple text editor on Linux for years... But for somebody non-technical, I've got to come up with a simple "wysiwyg" point-and-click solution... ;-) |
| [15:50:31] | CyberKnet: | "Html coding" |
| [15:50:31] | CyberKnet: | heh |
| [15:50:41] | meshe: | the only thing i use notepad for is to edit a system's host file |
| [15:50:50] | meshe: | any further than that and I install Notepad++ |
| [15:50:53] | sid3windr: | i've been looking for the "e" you forgot but I really can't figure it out CyberKnet ... < CyberKnet> whoops. forgot the e. |
| [15:50:57] | sid3windr: | :/ |
| [15:51:15] | CyberKnet: | sid3windr: I think Cancel picked it up and ... used ... it? |
| [15:51:41] | CyberKnet: | meshe: I'm partial to UltraEdit over Notepad++ |
| [15:52:08] | meshe: | for windows, UltraEdit is the best editor, but theres the licencing... |
| [15:52:16] | CyberKnet: | Although the latest version is making me rethink that. I don't like their new toolbar and tab control. But the good news is they'll have an X version soon. |
| [15:52:54] | meshe: | i wouldn't use an X version, i've switched fully over to gvim now |
| [15:52:57] | CyberKnet: | meshe: That it isn't Free software does bother some people... I'm not one of them though. |
| [15:53:40] | J-e-f-f-A: | I've been using 'nedit' on linux, and occasionally 'kate'. ;-) |
| [15:53:57] | meshe: | CyberKnet: it's not that, i have a personal and work licence, but most windows machines that i work on aren't mine, so i'm not installing a copy of software someone had to pay for on machines i don't own/control |
| [15:54:32] | meshe: | gvim has all the features that i loved about ultraedit including column edit |
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| [15:57:03] | CyberKnet: | meshe: Aha. Did you know there is a U3 version? |
| [15:57:14] | CyberKnet: | No explorer integration, but completely portable. |
| [15:57:24] | meshe: | no, haven't used it in a couple years now |
| [15:57:39] | meshe: | not since i finally got approval at work to switch to linux |
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| [15:59:26] | CyberKnet: | aah. |
| [16:00:18] | CyberKnet: | To each the best tool to fulfill their need, I say. |
| [16:00:33] | CyberKnet: | If that's Notepad++ or gvim for you, then that is great. |
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| [16:01:11] | meshe: | yeah, i use vim over ssh on our development servers to manage and write 10's of thousands of lines of code each year, it's just easier to stay in the same tool |
| [16:01:52] | CyberKnet: | very true. |
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| [16:02:27] | CyberKnet: | I still get annoyed every once in a while finding I've typed :q! or :wq into UltraEdit or Notepad :P |
| [16:02:46] | CyberKnet: | although not as often as I type ls into a Dos box |
| [16:02:48] | CyberKnet: | heh. |
| [16:03:02] | meshe: | hehe, i tend to do that in our CMS's editors |
| [16:03:27] | meshe: | or after writing an email in thunderbird or a message in jabber |
| [16:06:35] | gbee: | ahh Ultraedit, for a while I'd gladly have continued paying for a linux version |
| [16:09:14] | gbee: | had IDM decided to port it to X three/four years ago, I might have done exactly that |
| [16:09:20] | CyberKnet: | heh |
| [16:10:36] | meshe: | "Column mode is truly indispensable..." heh, ctrl-v in vim :) |
| [16:11:12] | meshe: | good that they are getting to it finally, but yeah, it's too late for me |
| [16:11:29] | gbee: | looking at their website, IDM have grown up, it was a simple one man operation when I started using Ultraedit, paying for a license actually resulted in a personal thankyou from Ian and he would answer support questions personally |
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| [16:19:25] | J-e-f-f-A: | Humm... seem Joomia requires MySQL – not sure if our hosting provider gives me access to it... ;-) seems a call is in order! |
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| [16:27:41] | meshe: | J-e-f-f-A: just remember, read a howto on joomla before using it, it's much, much easier than just trying to jump into it |
| [16:30:24] | J-e-f-f-A: | meshe: Yeah, seems they're running Linux and php is accessable, and mysql is on the system, but need to check with them for login credentials, etc. No shell access to the box... :-( |
| [16:31:15] | J-e-f-f-A: | meshe: I could also install it locally on my linux box here for learning purposes... ;-) |
| [16:31:26] | meshe: | that would probably be a good idea |
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| [16:33:32] | meshe: | J-e-f-f-A: here's an example of Joomla, it's my husband's site: http://www.savetheplanetonline.org/ |
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| [16:35:45] | J-e-f-f-A: | meshe: Looks pretty good. ;-) |
| [16:37:14] | meshe: | pretty easy to do too, most of it was up and running about 30 mins after ordering the domain (granted, that's after you have joomla experience) once it's all set up, editing pages can be done by anyone you specify very, very easily |
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| [16:38:13] | J-e-f-f-A: | meshe: Yeah, that's what I need to do... So I'm not the only one updating the site – spreading the responsibility around... ;-) |
| [16:39:06] | J-e-f-f-A: | meshe: "Beanhead" ;-) hehehehe |
| [16:39:57] | meshe: | yeah, his nickame is "The Bean" |
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| [16:41:19] | J-e-f-f-A: | meshe: I think they made a movie about him — "Mr Bean" — oh, wait – that was "Mr" bean, not "The" bean... ;-) hehehe |
| [16:41:34] | meshe: | heh |
| [16:44:30] | J-e-f-f-A: | Humm.... another potential issue – Joomia is ~25MB... not sure how much space we get with Verizon... Humm.... (another question to ask them...) |
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| [17:23:44] | rah: | when I run "mythfilldatabase --manual", I get asked to assign a "channel ID" to a particular channel in the EPG data: |
| [17:23:55] | rah: | Choose a channel ID (positive integer) [0] |
| [17:24:00] | rah: | what is this value used for? |
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| [17:28:03] | rah: | is it supposed to be the same channel ID as used in the database; ie, the "chanid" column of the "channel" table? |
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| [17:30:37] | CyberKnet: | I don't know, sorry rah. |
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| [17:31:12] | CyberKnet: | I wonder if SeaGL is pronounced Sea G L, or like seagull |
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| [17:38:21] | meshe: | rah: http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&a . . . BUS%26sa%3DG |
| [17:38:50] | meshe: | in the contents, click Mythfilldatabase – manual |
| [17:38:59] | meshe: | and no, this isn't a dev question :) |
| [17:40:47] | rah: | "It serves as the primary key for the channel table in the MySql database." |
| [17:40:48] | rah: | right |
| [17:41:03] | rah: | meshe: again, I disagree; I believe it is a dev question |
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| [17:41:12] | meshe: | why do you disagree? |
| [17:42:03] | meshe: | you are asking a question about *using* a myth program which makes it a *user* question |
| [17:42:22] | ** CyberKnet agrees with meshe ** | |
| [17:42:27] | rah: | because (a) it involves knowledge of the internals of the system, and (b) it involves the (lack of) development of documentation |
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| [17:42:41] | laga: | for fucks sake. |
| [17:42:50] | laga: | just play by the rules and stop being a whiney bitch |
| [17:42:59] | laga: | and stop wasting everyone's time |
| [17:43:07] | rah: | laga: I don't remember asking you a god-damned thing! |
| [17:43:29] | meshe: | rah: i found that page by googling it for you |
| [17:43:35] | rah: | meshe: thanks |
| [17:43:43] | rah: | google wasn't so helpful for me |
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| [17:44:17] | meshe: | my search terms were: mythfilldatabase choose a channel id |
| [17:44:19] | iamlindoro: | adios |
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| [17:45:02] | rah: | my search terms were: mythtv mythfilldatabase channel id |
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| [17:46:29] | meshe: | that was my first search too, but when that didn't work, i search for the text that mythfilldatabase was asking you ;) |
| [17:47:24] | rah: | I searched for that text, too |
| [17:47:25] | rah: | odd |
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| [17:56:54] | rah: | Using the channel ID doesn't appear to work: |
| [17:57:09] | rah: | 2009-05–07 18:54:00.397 DB Error (Adding Service): |
| [17:57:09] | rah: | Query was: |
| [17:57:09] | rah: | INSERT INTO channel |
| [17:57:16] | rah: | Database error was: |
| [17:57:16] | rah: | Duplicate entry '1011' for key 1 |
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| [18:06:55] | Defense: | Hi, why doesn't the archive plugin rename the archive to the name of the movie after exporting the record? |
| [18:07:09] | rah: | is there any documentation anywhere on what should be used as the channel ID? |
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| [18:07:20] | rah: | (and more importantly, why?) |
| [18:09:49] | Pontiac: | Thank you Virtual Box for SNAPSHOTS... Just did an upgrade from 8.10 to 9.04 and X is now fubarred. |
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| [18:10:57] | Pontiac: | rah> Find the place where you can edit the channels, delete all the channels, then re-download the channel guide. Don't scan for channels. |
| [18:11:56] | rah: | Pontiac: erm.. if I don't scan for channels, how will mythtv know which frequency to set the DVB receiver to? |
| [18:12:48] | Pontiac: | There are two buttons. One is to scan the channels, which has the tuner go through each channel and get the signal quality. The other button will assign channels based on the downloaded list you get from your channel guide provider. |
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| [18:13:31] | rah: | I see |
| [18:14:08] | Pontiac: | Worked great with Rogers Cable. |
| [18:14:46] | Pontiac: | I tried to scan, then apply what was downloaded, but I ended up with duplicate channels, unassigned channels, etc. So I dropped all the channels, then just ran with what the provider gave me, and it worked perfectly. |
| [18:15:37] | rah: | Pontiac: where are these two buttons? |
| [18:15:49] | Pontiac: | Gimme a sec. |
| [18:16:15] | Pontiac: | Gotta turn on the machine. |
| [18:16:39] | laga: | hrm. how can i delete multiple recordings at once? |
| [18:16:41] | rah: | Pontiac: you realise that there are channels that I can receive that aren't covered by the channel guide? |
| [18:17:07] | tank-man: | laga, tag them with "/" and then goto playlist options and delete |
| [18:18:04] | rah: | "On the connection pane there is a "Scan for channels" button, if you are configuring a digital source such as a DVB card, you need scan for channels and you must do this before pressing the "Fetch channels from listings source" button." — http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-9.html |
| [18:18:10] | laga: | tank-man: awesome, thanks |
| [18:19:19] | Pontiac: | rah> Do you know what channels were downloaded vs the channels you added? |
| [18:19:25] | Pontiac: | err.. added/scanned? |
| [18:19:49] | rah: | Pontiac: not off the top of my head, no |
| [18:20:36] | rah: | Pontiac: why? |
| [18:20:49] | Pontiac: | Alright, try this. Go into the Backed Configuration (Exit out of the front end, then SYSTEM> MythTV Backed Setup) |
| [18:20:58] | Pontiac: | Select Channel Editor |
| [18:21:27] | Pontiac: | Select "SORT MODE" as Channel Number. |
| [18:22:06] | rah: | why? |
| [18:22:08] | Pontiac: | Look for channel 11, try deleting it. |
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| [18:23:19] | Pontiac: | .. or look for channel 1011, and try deleting that one. (Kind of grabbing at straws) |
| [18:23:25] | rah: | I'm a little concerned that you're giving me instructions as opposed to explaining the solution to the problem |
| [18:23:33] | DigitalNY: | I have a amd64 system that I just installed mythdora on.. it's running a HVR-1600 ATSC/QAM/NTSC tuner and a PCI (not express) Nvidia FX6200.. all my live tv & recordings display as a 1/4 inch line across the tv (using s-video out) and the monitor (vga) |
| [18:23:36] | DigitalNY: | any idea guys? |
| [18:24:30] | rah: | ok, I have a problem |
| [18:24:32] | Pontiac: | Rah> The technical explanation is that the database is unable to insert channel 1011 due to there already BEING a channel 1011 in the database. The 1011 is the primary key, has to be unique, etc, etc. |
| [18:24:46] | rah: | Pontiac: I know |
| [18:24:50] | rah: | Pontiac: that's not the problem |
| [18:24:56] | rah: | I can't seem to configure mythtv |
| [18:24:59] | Pontiac: | So my thoughts are if you go through the GUI, drop either channel 11, or 1011, whichever is there, then it should allow for the new record to be reinserted. |
| [18:25:06] | rah: | I've followed the instructions on how to configure it |
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| [18:25:16] | rah: | but the instructions are incomplete what should I do? |
| [18:25:30] | Pontiac: | *scrolls back up* |
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| [18:27:32] | Pontiac: | [1:23p] <rah> when I run "mythfilldatabase --manual", I get asked to assign a "channel ID" to a particular channel in the EPG data: |
| [18:27:32] | Pontiac: | [1:24p] <rah> Choose a channel ID (positive integer) [0] |
| [18:27:57] | Pontiac: | Pick a different number for now. 1111 for instance. I think this is the PK value you're entering. |
| [18:28:34] | rah: | why would it ask me for a channel ID if the channel ID wasn't significant? |
| [18:29:31] | Pontiac: | It is significant. Its the channel you go to when you select channel 1111 (Or 111 – checking my tables right now) |
| [18:29:51] | rah: | no, that's the channel number, not the channel ID |
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| [18:30:59] | Pontiac: | *************************** 5. row *************************** |
| [18:30:59] | Pontiac: | chanid: 1009 |
| [18:30:59] | Pontiac: | channum: 9 |
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| [18:32:12] | Pontiac: | What I would suggest is take the channel number you want to assign, add 1000 (Or some other arbitrary number larger than 1000) then let it insert. For some reason the database thinks you've got two channel elevens. |
| [18:34:12] | meshe: | confirmed on my system too, chanid needs to be unique, but it doesn't look like it needs to be anything other than that |
| [18:34:33] | meshe: | it could probably be an auto_inrement field, but there are most likely reasons why it wasn't made so |
| [18:34:43] | Pontiac: | No, there is no auto-increment on that field. |
| [18:34:55] | Pontiac: | mysql> describe channel; |
| [18:34:55] | Pontiac: | +-------------------+-----------------------+------+-----+---------+-------+ |
| [18:34:55] | Pontiac: | | Field | Type | Null | Key | Default | Extra | |
| [18:34:55] | Pontiac: | +-------------------+-----------------------+------+-----+---------+-------+ |
| [18:34:55] | Pontiac: | | chanid | int(10) unsigned | NO | PRI | 0 | | |
| [18:34:56] | Pontiac: | | channum | varchar(10) | NO | MUL | | | |
| [18:35:05] | Pontiac: | You'd see auto_increment in the EXTRA field. |
| [18:35:19] | meshe: | Pontiac: seriously, use pastebin |
| [18:35:31] | Pontiac: | heh. Alright. |
| [18:35:56] | meshe: | i meant that it could have been made auto_increment, not that it could currently be |
| [18:36:38] | Pontiac: | Possibly. I'm not using the latest release, so there may have been a change. |
| [18:36:48] | rah: | meshe: surely the mythfilldatabase wouldn't bother asking for an ID if it could have been auto_increment? |
| [18:37:01] | ** meshe think you're still missing what i mean... ** | |
| [18:37:25] | Pontiac: | Someone may have altered the table manually to have the DB assign numbers to ChanID? |
| [18:37:26] | meshe: | they could change it or have made the field auto_increment when it was designed originally, but they didn't |
| [18:37:45] | rah: | meshe: surely the mythfilldatabase program wouldn't bother asking for an ID if it could have been auto_increment? |
| [18:38:03] | meshe: | since it only requires unique numbers, auto_increment woudl normally be a good idea, but there may be some design decision as to why they didn't |
| [18:38:19] | Pontiac: | rah> Go into MySQL and run describe channel; and see what shows up. |
| [18:38:23] | rah: | meshe: you're talking about the database |
| [18:38:26] | gbee: | who knows, that code was written so long ago and few people use --manual |
| [18:38:27] | meshe: | i'm not saying that it is autoincrement, that that it probably should be |
| [18:38:36] | rah: | meshe: the database isn't the mythfilldatabase program |
| [18:38:49] | rah: | meshe: and the mythfilldatabase program is asking for an ID value |
| [18:38:59] | ** meshe nods ** | |
| [18:39:07] | gbee: | not sure I even know what --manual does |
| [18:39:11] | meshe: | to insert into the database into a field that has to be unique |
| [18:39:22] | rah: | meshe: irrespective of whether or not the database field was or is auto_increment, the program is asking the user for a number |
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| [18:39:26] | Pontiac: | rah> Yes, because that field MAY be used by another table for referential integrity. |
| [18:39:46] | meshe: | rah, enter another number :) |
| [18:39:48] | rah: | meshe: if that number could be randomly chosen, then why is the program asking for it? |
| [18:39:48] | meshe: | try 2011 |
| [18:40:03] | meshe: | i don't know, read the code :) |
| [18:40:05] | Pontiac: | For `SOME` reason a row is there with field 1011 already, and MySQL is belching. Just enter another number. You're not going to kill the computer. ;) |
| [18:40:13] | rah: | read the code? |
| [18:40:20] | rah: | jesus |
| [18:40:36] | rah: | I did that before |
| [18:40:53] | rah: | made changes to the mythtv source |
| [18:40:59] | rah: | I became ill |
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| [18:42:12] | CyberKnet: | seriously ... this is not that big of a deal that you've drawn out into a huge ordeal. |
| [18:42:28] | rah: | Pontiac: I've already done that, before I started asking in here |
| [18:42:39] | rah: | Pontiac: I get repeated rows in the channel table |
| [18:43:02] | meshe: | gbee: just said that the code is very old and that few people use --manual so it's not suprising that there's few in here that know what the process is |
| [18:43:30] | rah: | who is gbee? |
| [18:44:24] | Pontiac: | Then one of two things are happening... The database isn't deleting row 1011 for some reason, which is causing a fault, or, you're downloading two different channel listings, which both have channel number of 1011, which is causing the barf. When confronted, enter a different number, like 100011. |
| [18:45:15] | rah: | the existing row contains the channel frequency information |
| [18:45:50] | rah: | meshe: and where would one go, if not "here", that would know what the process is? |
| [18:46:38] | Pontiac: | The Channel Frequency info tells the tuner card what to tune into. The concept of "CHANNELS" is just for the people who don't have a science degree in broadcasting. |
| [18:46:49] | Pontiac: | Pen/paper/copy&paste that number. |
| [18:46:52] | meshe: | the mailing list, or read the code, and if you figure it out document it in the wiki so that others with the same issue don't have to do the same |
| [18:46:55] | rah: | Pontiac: my point is that the row shouldn't be deleted |
| [18:47:18] | Pontiac: | Why can't it? |
| [18:47:31] | rah: | I cannot believe that I am the only person in the UK which has come up against this problem |
| [18:47:32] | i_is_cat: | rah, you could always pay for my flight and accomodations plus $150/hr for my time and i'll come over and get it fixed for you |
| [18:48:04] | Pontiac: | Make sure you put into the contract that its a minumum of 3 hours. |
| [18:48:09] | rah: | i_is_cat: who the hell are you? |
| [18:48:14] | Pontiac: | One SQL statement would fix it. {smirk} |
| [18:48:19] | i_is_cat: | ;) |
| [18:48:38] | i_is_cat: | rah, i believe my nick states who i am or who i is |
| [18:48:51] | rah: | your belief is mistaken |
| [18:49:05] | Pontiac: | rah> How many channel guides are you using? |
| [18:49:12] | rah: | Pontiac: one |
| [18:49:13] | meshe: | not even a small fraction of people that use myth hang out in chat, the mailing list has a much wider range of people |
| [18:49:19] | Pontiac: | How many channels have you manually entered? |
| [18:49:38] | iamlindoro: | Half the people in here who *could* help are ignoring the channel as helping people acting like jerks for free isn't our idea of fun |
| [18:49:54] | meshe: | iamlindoro: that too |
| [18:49:58] | i_is_cat: | iamlindoro has that right |
| [18:50:27] | Pontiac: | Alright, Rah, are you able to get into mysql and use the database in question? |
| [18:50:34] | rah: | Pontiac: what do you mean? at what point? are you asking how many channels I've entered in my life time? are you asking how annoyed I am at having gone through dozens of questions posed by the mythfilldatabase program, only to have it fail? |
| [18:50:50] | rah: | Pontiac: of course I can |
| [18:50:52] | rah: | Pontiac: why? |
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| [18:51:06] | rah: | we're evidently not going to solve the problem here |
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| [18:51:19] | i_is_cat: | i think thats mostly because of someones attitude... |
| [18:51:33] | Pontiac: | Because I'm going to give you an update statement that will make that record 1011 go away. |
| [18:51:43] | ** squidly reads backlog... ** | |
| [18:51:57] | CyberKnet: | aaah, in the words of my kindergarten teacher "Somebody is going to need a cranky spanky soon..." |
| [18:51:58] | Pontiac: | update channel set chanid=10011 where chanid=1011 limit 1; |
| [18:52:01] | rah: | Pontiac: I don't need an update statement |
| [18:52:07] | rah: | Pontiac: I write SQL for a living |
| [18:52:08] | Pontiac: | To fix your problem, you do. |
| [18:52:21] | rah: | Pontiac: no, that won't fix the problem |
| [18:52:22] | ** iamlindoro sighs ** | |
| [18:52:24] | Pontiac: | If you write sql for a living then you shouldn't be afraid to update table rows. |
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| [18:52:36] | Pontiac: | Then you're describing the problem wrong. |
| [18:52:41] | rah: | why do you think that I'm afraid to update table rows? |
| [18:52:55] | Pontiac: | I gotta go pick up my wife. L8r. |
| [18:53:00] | i_is_cat: | rah, regardless of what you do or how you feel, if you ask for help and refuse the suggestions, you're not going to get anywhere |
| [18:53:08] | CyberKnet: | Heck, if you change the frontend painter and your video card is set up wrong, you better hope you're comfortable editing table rows :D |
| [18:53:29] | ** squidly thinks it time for another /ignore ** | |
| [18:53:35] | CyberKnet: | Of course, MythWeb is also good for that. |
| [18:53:43] | CyberKnet: | squidly ... I'm hurt. :P" |
| [18:53:48] | squidly: | CyberKnet: lol |
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| [18:54:21] | iamlindoro: | Some people were tragically underbeaten as children |
| [18:54:23] | squidly: | CyberKnet: not you.. but another attitude issue in the chan. |
| [18:54:27] | squidly: | iamlindoro: lmao.. agreed |
| [18:54:36] | iamlindoro: | ;) |
| [18:55:08] | gbee: | CyberKnet: that's what -O is for ;) |
| [18:55:17] | squidly: | iamlindoro: I have to admit though I'm a toys-r-us kid still ;) |
| [18:56:44] | squidly: | makes me glad to have a daughter and son I can take there :D |
| [18:57:06] | iamlindoro: | Though if one is unable to conjure 5 minutes of patience and basic courteous human interaction while asking for help, I'm happier with them suffering with a broken system. |
| [18:57:09] | iamlindoro: | What can I say, I'm a hater. |
| [18:57:44] | rah: | lol |
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| [19:02:10] | laga: | CyberKnet: mythfrontend --reset, btw |
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| [19:09:25] | tank-man: | I'll be the nice guy and translate his problem, he can access channels (and wants to record/watch them) that are not in his downloaded tv info. |
| [19:09:29] | tank-man: | :) |
| [19:09:58] | iamlindoro: | His problem is clear, it's the behavior that's broken |
| [19:10:07] | CyberKnet: | laga: OOooooh. I should have done a --help I guess ;) |
| [19:10:14] | laga: | :) |
| [19:10:26] | squidly: | its a PEBKAC issue |
| [19:10:41] | CyberKnet: | gbee: and again ... the things I learn hanging around with smarter people than I. |
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| [19:20:44] | rah: | "he" is still here, btw |
| [19:21:06] | iamlindoro: | It's not that we don't know, it's that we don't care. |
| [19:22:06] | Dagmar: | Note that 'he' was in double-quotes. |
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| [19:23:42] | gbee: | dare I ask whether we're talking about analogue capture, analogue tuner or digital here? --manual only applies to the first two and even then, it's an old workaround and unmaintained |
| [19:25:56] | sid3windr: | how do you show the previously recorded livetv recordings in the frontend? |
| [19:26:13] | meshe: | sid3windr: you have to change the playback group |
| [19:26:19] | rah: | gbee: digital |
| [19:26:36] | i_is_cat: | mmmmm im making chili and it smells awesome in here |
| [19:26:42] | Dagmar: | Daskhal: It suspect it might be ignotus or lmgtfy |
| [19:26:50] | sid3windr: | meshe: change it where? (and at this point it's hypothetical because the recording already expired) |
| [19:26:51] | meshe: | there an option in the menu on that page or you can include it in your default display in your frontend settings |
| [19:28:18] | meshe: | in the recordings screen i think you can hit M to change the recording group displayed |
| [19:28:29] | squidly: | meshe: I usualy just change the display group on myfrontend in the recoarded page |
| [19:29:11] | meshe: | i changed my default setting to prompt for the group when going to the recording screen and also included livetv in the all recordings group |
| [19:29:26] | meshe: | can't remember the exact screen it's on though |
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| [19:30:40] | squidly: | meshe: yea I dont want my fiancee to see that when she tries to find her "shows"...so I set it to not show LiveTV all the time |
| [19:31:04] | ** meshe nods ** | |
| [19:31:22] | meshe: | i don't watch live tv much if ever so it's empty most of the time |
| [19:31:38] | squidly: | same here |
| [19:31:56] | squidly: | I usualy recoard though out the week and have a veg marathon sundays |
| [19:32:28] | i_is_cat: | mmmmm vegetative vegetables |
| [19:34:15] | squidly: | lol iamlindoro |
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| [19:34:23] | squidly: | i mena i_is_cat |
| [19:35:09] | i_is_cat: | i pretty much just use mythtv when im goin to bed its on my desktop only and it works great for me but i dont do weird things with it |
| [19:35:22] | i_is_cat: | ripping dvds didnt seem to work but thats fine i use mencoder for that.. |
| [19:36:03] | i_is_cat: | but there are so many features that i hear about thats like daaaaaaaaammmnnn thats cool.. mythweb was one of those |
| [19:36:11] | clever: | i_is_cat: cpdvd |
| [19:36:28] | i_is_cat: | mencoder works perfectly for me |
| [19:36:33] | i_is_cat: | 98% of the time |
| [19:36:50] | clever: | cpdvd can rip the .VOB files out and give you the full dvd including menus |
| [19:37:14] | i_is_cat: | i dont like the menus.. i just want the videos |
| [19:37:20] | clever: | ah |
| [19:37:36] | timonator: | what steps can i take to troubleshoot my dvb-t adapter? i could scan the channels fine, but when i select "watch TV" in the mythtv main menu, nothing happens except for the screen flickering briefly |
| [19:37:39] | i_is_cat: | if i ever burn a copy for whatever purpose i create my own menus with qdvdauthor |
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| [19:37:54] | sid3windr: | meshe: thanks :) |
| [19:38:07] | meshe: | sid3windr: no problem |
| [19:38:12] | meshe: | timonator: check your backend logs |
| [19:38:20] | thedarkone: | hey all any one have a good link on how to make a rs232 serial lirc emitter? |
| [19:38:39] | i_is_cat: | thedarkone, they're alllllllllll over google |
| [19:39:01] | thedarkone: | i could only find ones were u can by them |
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| [19:39:40] | i_is_cat: | i could find all sorts of info on buying them and building them |
| [19:39:45] | timonator: | meshe: will do, thanks |
| [19:39:51] | i_is_cat: | i must be a google master or something *shrug* |
| [19:40:24] | meshe: | i_is_cat: i think the same sometimes, i think that search engine use is an innate skill for some people |
| [19:40:45] | timonator: | the mythtv backend log is full of can't connect to database spam messages |
| [19:41:10] | timonator: | it's 38 megs in size and constantly growing |
| [19:41:12] | i_is_cat: | timonator, then thats your issue |
| [19:41:18] | i_is_cat: | its not connecting to the db |
| [19:41:24] | thedarkone: | well i put into google how to make a irc serial emitter |
| [19:41:38] | timonator: | it uses the wrong password, but why? |
| [19:41:47] | timonator: | i set the correct password in /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt |
| [19:42:52] | meshe: | did you run mythtv-setup? |
| [19:43:13] | timonator: | yeah, but i can and maybe should run it again |
| [19:43:16] | timonator: | as root, yes? |
| [19:43:32] | meshe: | preferably as the user you plan on running mythbackend as |
| [19:43:59] | timonator: | that would be mythtv then. |
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| [19:52:01] | timonator: | improvement: now the screen stays black for several seconds |
| [19:52:31] | meshe: | keep watching those backend logs, they will tell you why it's not coming up |
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| [19:53:56] | timonator: | yes |
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| [19:54:05] | timonator: | currently it's permission problems with my recordings folder |
| [19:54:19] | Pontiac: | Good ol' chmod 777 * |
| [19:55:24] | meshe: | i swear that the black screen on live tv error always comes down to permission issues with the recordings folder |
| [19:55:40] | gbee: | heh, chown -R mythtv:mythtv /path/to/recordings/dir |
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| [19:58:12] | timonator: | amazing! |
| [19:58:15] | timonator: | it's stargate SG-1! |
| [19:58:20] | Pontiac: | rm -R / |
| [19:58:25] | Pontiac: | rm -Rf / |
| [19:58:33] | meshe: | Pontiac: hey! none of that |
| [19:58:43] | Pontiac: | *chokes on his ice-cap* |
| [19:58:48] | timonator: | Pontiac: i did that and now my screen is black, what do i do now? |
| [19:59:01] | Pontiac: | I'm surprised its black. |
| [19:59:13] | Pontiac: | Install WinME? |
| [19:59:16] | clever: | yeah |
| [19:59:16] | clever: | it should stay running |
| [19:59:16] | clever: | but be unable to do anything more |
| [19:59:20] | Pontiac: | rm doesn't work on WinME |
| [19:59:28] | meshe: | Microsoft Bob |
| [19:59:30] | timonator: | yeah, i was just kiddinf |
| [19:59:54] | Pontiac: | mmm.. Bob was awesome. |
| [20:00:05] | Pontiac: | .. err.. Lemme clarify that.. MICROSOFT Bob was awesome. |
| [20:00:13] | meshe: | haha |
| [20:00:49] | Pontiac: | Uptime was about two days. Much better than what WinME was. |
| [20:01:13] | clever: | 17:01:13 up 29 days, 18:12, 43 users, load average: 4.07, 2.94, 2.26 |
| [20:01:33] | meshe: | i installed WinMe once and uninstalled it after i saw the "Welcome to Windows 98" in the start menu |
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| [20:02:09] | meshe: | i think it was an RC or beta |
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| [20:03:04] | Pontiac: | LMAO! Nice. hahaha |
| [20:03:20] | gbee: | I'm ashamed to say that I didn't know better and ran WinME for a full six months until I obtained a copy of Windows 2000 |
| [20:03:37] | laga: | i used to run WinME on my overclocked box back then |
| [20:03:44] | laga: | was slightly unstable.. |
| [20:03:47] | Pontiac: | I pretty much skipped WinME as well. Went from 3.1 to 95 to 98 to 2K then XP. |
| [20:03:52] | Pontiac: | ... I seem to be stuck at XP. |
| [20:04:03] | meshe: | Pontiac: that was my progression too |
| [20:04:25] | meshe: | i still don't use Vista anywhere |
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| [20:05:08] | Pontiac: | I've got a machine I'm going to be setting up (eventually) that'll run Win7 RC. |
| [20:05:21] | gbee: | I went from every *consumer* version from 3.10 onwards, until 2K – my experience of XP was limited to about a day on a new laptop, before it was wiped and replaced with linux] |
| [20:05:24] | Pontiac: | Stuff it somewhere under my desk. |
| [20:06:08] | Pontiac: | Problem is, now that I'm working where I'm at, I've come to really enjoy Linux. Problem is, I'm also a gamer, and its too much of a PITA to keep swapping OS's. |
| [20:06:31] | Pontiac: | So if I want Linux, I just get VirtualBox going with Ubuntu (Which I'm currently trying to fix due to the "upgrade button") |
| [20:06:32] | gbee: | with luck, I'll never need to run Windows (or whatever they call it in 10 years) again |
| [20:06:53] | laga: | gbee: i had to run windows in virtualbox today for a school project :/ |
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| [20:07:03] | gbee: | I gave up games, such was my commitment to the cause ;) |
| [20:07:12] | Cancel: | gbee: don't worry you will |
| [20:07:29] | Pontiac: | I can't give up games. Its like ripping my Tim Hortons away from me. :P |
| [20:07:42] | wagnerrp: | 'WinME' would have been slightly unstable on your non-overclocked box |
| [20:08:52] | gbee: | sure, I played with Cedega for a time and tried to squeeze every last drop from those ID games which would run on linux, but ultimately I was losing interest in the unrealistic arcade style gameplay that most games offered by that point |
| [20:09:25] | meshe: | i just reboot to XP to game |
| [20:09:41] | meshe: | and probably windows 7 when it comes out, cause hey, it comes with XP |
| [20:09:59] | gbee: | I just wanted Operation Flashpoint/Armed Assault to run under linux, but alas, that's unlikely to ever happen :/ |
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| [20:10:50] | ** CyberKnet wonders what will happen to any DNF source that actuall existed with 3DR's demise ** | |
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| [20:11:31] | gbee: | CyberKnet: who knows, I can bet that someone is still trying to figure out how they might profit from it |
| [20:12:24] | Pontiac: | I thought 3DR was gone AGES ago. Didn't realize they were still kick'n. |
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| [20:14:15] | CyberKnet: | gbee: I think pretty much anyone with decent management could still profit from it. |
| [20:14:31] | DigitalNY: | Any idea what would cause recorded video playback & live tv to be just a couple horizontal lines in the center of the display.. even though the preview looked fine |
| [20:14:35] | wagnerrp: | Pontiac: they released some DNF teaser about a year ago |
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| [20:14:50] | CyberKnet: | gbee: They could probably release some binary that just showed a picture and some cheesy music at this stage and it would gross millions. |
| [20:15:12] | laga: | i would buy it |
| [20:15:28] | ** gbee groans ... kill me ... ** | |
| [20:15:58] | laga: | it's time to chew some gum and kick some ass |
| [20:16:16] | ** timonator chews ass and kicks bubble gum ** | |
| [20:16:18] | DigitalNY: | Nah.. kill me.. I'm on day 2 of just trying to get mythdora to work with my pci (not express) nvidia 6200 & a hauppauge hvr-1600.. previous 2 days was trying to get mythbuntu to work |
| [20:16:23] | DigitalNY: | lol |
| [20:16:46] | ** CyberKnet notices he is all out of gum ** | |
| [20:16:49] | CyberKnet: | *shrug* |
| [20:16:58] | Pontiac: | .. oh.. wow... All I had to do to get X to start was rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf. *eyes roll* |
| [20:17:55] | sid3windr: | what are you waiting for? |
| [20:17:57] | sid3windr: | christmas?! |
| [20:18:22] | meshe: | DigitalNY: what are you outputting the video to? what video card? |
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| [20:19:25] | DigitalNY: | a BFG Tech Nvidia PCI (not PCI-E) Geforce FX6200 with output cloned to it's s-video out.. running the nvidia proprietary driver |
| [20:19:43] | wagnerrp: | DigitalNY: do you have any other outputs connected to it? |
| [20:20:11] | wagnerrp: | with nothing else connected, the 6200s should default to svideo |
| [20:20:12] | meshe: | that sounds like the rez or refresh are wrong for the tv it's connected to |
| [20:20:18] | DigitalNY: | the outputs connected are a VGA (17" monitor) and the tv via svideo to composite cable |
| [20:20:33] | wagnerrp: | your tv doesnt take svideo directly? |
| [20:20:33] | DigitalNY: | it's only the mythtv window that's affected.. rest of the desktop looks fine |
| [20:20:37] | DigitalNY: | No |
| [20:21:08] | wagnerrp: | so the computer is outputting to the tv just fine, only mythtv wont display on the tv? |
| [20:21:12] | sid3windr: | yeah I have an odd thing |
| [20:21:17] | sid3windr: | new lcd tv, doesn't seem to do s-video |
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| [20:21:31] | DigitalNY: | if I go to view live tv it shows as a black box with the tv image compressed into about 1/8" line running across the center |
| [20:21:33] | Lhorian: | hello everybody |
| [20:21:46] | gbee: | DigitalNY: mythfrontend -O ThemePainter=qt |
| [20:22:01] | gbee: | or if that fails, mythfrontend -O ThemePainter=opengl |
| [20:22:08] | wagnerrp: | are you running independent screens? or xinerama? |
| [20:22:24] | gbee: | oh sorry, ignore me, those lines won't fix video problems |
| [20:22:51] | wagnerrp: | if youre running independent screens, mythtv should 'just work' on the tv |
| [20:23:11] | wagnerrp: | if youre using xinerama, you will have to force mythtv to use the proper resolution and offset |
| [20:23:11] | DigitalNY: | whatever the nvidia settings control panel does wagner.. i used the nvidia display settings tool to enable the tv |
| [20:23:21] | DigitalNY: | probably xinerama |
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| [20:24:04] | DigitalNY: | just a sec.. I'll check |
| [20:24:25] | ciphergoth: | I want to buy a remote control to use with mythtv – I've been using a wired keyboard – any recommendations? |
| [20:24:39] | J-e-f-f-A: | meshe: Gee, I'm safe – we've got 750MB space, only using 40MB currently... ;-) I've got Joomla installed, messing around with it 'off to the side' right now to get a feel for it... |
| [20:24:55] | wagnerrp: | ciphergoth: get an MCEUSB2 compatible remote |
| [20:25:14] | Lhorian: | ciphergoth: allmost every remote will do using LIRC |
| [20:25:36] | wagnerrp: | your tuner card didnt come with a remote? |
| [20:25:56] | wagnerrp: | you can also wire up your own attached to a serial port |
| [20:26:03] | DigitalNY: | Okay.. I just set it to run a seperate xserver.. lets see if it does the same |
| [20:26:09] | wagnerrp: | or get a UIRT |
| [20:26:27] | rah: | I have a couple of problems with mythtv |
| [20:27:14] | rah: | firstly, the window displays underneath gnome panels |
| [20:27:20] | ciphergoth: | wagnerrp: how do I find out whether a remote control is MCEUSB2 compatible? |
| [20:27:48] | ** CyberKnet wonders what the simple solution to displaying underneath gnome panels might be ** | |
| [20:27:49] | wagnerrp: | look at the page on the wiki |
| [20:28:09] | CyberKnet: | It couldn't be that simple now, could it? |
| [20:28:21] | wagnerrp: | if the remote looks like the one on the wiki, and the receiver is USB-attached, with to 1/8" jacks for ir blasters, its probably compatible |
| [20:28:27] | rah: | secondly, it displays two copies of the video stream, half the correct size, on top of one another |
| [20:28:30] | wagnerrp: | check user comments on the site if possible |
| [20:28:43] | ciphergoth: | wagnerrp: OK, thanks – looking at wiki page now |
| [20:28:53] | ciphergoth: | Gah, do they all have that bloody green logo in the middle? |
| [20:28:56] | rah: | http://teasel.6gnip.net/~rah/bad-mythtv-display.jpg |
| [20:29:00] | CyberKnet: | rah: You got us... you caught us in the act. MythTV is a big lie – it doesn't work for anyone. |
| [20:29:04] | wagnerrp: | yep |
| [20:29:19] | wagnerrp: | if you want something else, check out the usb-uirt |
| [20:29:29] | wagnerrp: | its a bit more expensive, and doesnt come with a remote |
| [20:29:37] | wagnerrp: | but you can program it to use whatever you want |
| [20:29:53] | wagnerrp: | (you may be able to reprogram the MCEUSB2 to use alternate remote signals as well, i havent tried) |
| [20:30:04] | CyberKnet: | rah: Please don't tell anyone else that though, we're trying to see just how far we can push the lie. |
| [20:30:53] | Lhorian: | lol! |
| [20:32:09] | Lhorian: | hey, I have a Technotrend T-1500 capture card which needs firmware |
| [20:32:36] | Lhorian: | however, the startup of mythbackend is too quick for this upload |
| [20:32:45] | gbee: | rah: using an ATI card? |
| [20:32:57] | rah: | gbee: yes |
| [20:33:03] | rah: | gbee: is this a known issue? |
| [20:33:07] | Lhorian: | leaving me in the cold, after boot I have to restart the backend to get livetv |
| [20:33:17] | gbee: | you can't use the Bob deinterlacer with the ATi driver, it doesn't supportit |
| [20:33:30] | Lhorian: | anyone seen this before? |
| [20:33:39] | rah: | I don't know what the Bob deinterlacer is |
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| [20:34:23] | laga: | the thingamabob deinterlacer? |
| [20:34:34] | tank-man: | users of ati+linux, nope no known problems with those two combos :) lol |
| [20:34:43] | tank-man: | its in playback settings |
| [20:34:45] | squidly: | tank-man: lol |
| [20:35:15] | meshe: | rah: search the mailing list for the first issue: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/engine? . . . sb=post_time |
| [20:35:50] | DigitalNY: | okay.. i've got the x server running on the tv only.. no xinerama.. no crt.. and it's still doing it :-( |
| [20:36:15] | meshe: | DigitalNY: what resolution/refresh is it trying to send to the tv? |
| [20:37:11] | DigitalNY: | 640x480.. unsure on the rate.. just a sec |
| [20:37:35] | gbee: | rah: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Playback_profiles – under settings > TV > TV Playback or something |
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| [20:39:03] | squidly: | wagnerrp: gbee thanks for your help the other day with HDMI sound, and my remote. I got them all working fully :D |
| [20:40:56] | CyberKnet: | THere's help for HDMI Audio in here? |
| [20:41:04] | CyberKnet: | Hot dang. I think I'll be back tonight ;) |
| [20:41:33] | meshe: | CyberKnet: there's tons of discussion going on about it on the mailing list |
| [20:42:00] | CyberKnet: | I have HDMI Audio, and at one point in time I could even control the volume from inside Myth. |
| [20:42:10] | CyberKnet: | I still have hdmi audio working, just no volume control. |
| [20:42:19] | CyberKnet: | I've used the TV's volume in the mean time to compensate. |
| [20:42:24] | CyberKnet: | not a pressing issue. |
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| [20:42:33] | CyberKnet: | maybe I'll look into the mailing list tonight. |
| [20:43:10] | meshe: | CyberKnet: great way to search it: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/ |
| [20:43:12] | squidly: | CyberKnet: there is not volume control |
| [20:43:24] | squidly: | for HDMI audio from what I'm told |
| [20:43:28] | ** meshe chuckles at squidly ** | |
| [20:43:30] | CyberKnet: | There isn't? I thought I had that working at one time. Perhaps not. |
| [20:44:23] | CyberKnet: | I sure wish my remote could learn codes and passthrough the TV's volume signals then! *grin* |
| [20:44:36] | meshe: | there is a way, though i wouldn't do it personally |
| [20:44:47] | wagnerrp: | there is no simple way to 'passthrough' codes |
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| [20:45:15] | CyberKnet: | wagnerrp: I may have used the wrong terminology there. |
| [20:45:16] | squidly: | meshe: oh..really? |
| [20:45:26] | squidly: | I though it was not working with nvidia HDMI cards |
| [20:45:35] | CyberKnet: | wagnerrp: I just meant I wish my remote was learning so that it could learn the tv's volume codes. |
| [20:45:43] | meshe: | squidly: yes, alsa can remix the audio for you before it goes off to the digial stream |
| [20:46:00] | wagnerrp: | squidly: AFAIK, it currently does not work with nvidia cards, but it does work with onboard chips |
| [20:47:22] | CyberKnet: | meshe: and this is a bad thing if you are only sending stereo audio out anyway? |
| [20:47:46] | CyberKnet: | I suppose it could allow for audio sync issues. |
| [20:47:54] | squidly: | ahh |
| [20:47:59] | Lhorian: | does anyone know how to fix a to slow firmware upload vs. a too quick start of mythbackend. By this cause myth-backend 'misses' a capture card at boot |
| [20:48:01] | meshe: | CyberKnet: i prefer to keep my internal volume control set at 100% and let the home theatre manage amplification |
| [20:48:28] | squidly: | yea I'm just going to do my serial port thing I was talking about |
| [20:48:32] | CyberKnet: | meshe: with internal volume at 100%, don't you get distortion? |
| [20:48:35] | meshe: | though that may be a fallback to my experience with analog and with digital it may just pass the audio strengh as a param |
| [20:48:39] | meshe: | CyberKnet: no |
| [20:48:53] | squidly: | though this is build in nvidia card |
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| [20:49:13] | CyberKnet: | Lhorian: put a delay in the mythbackend start? |
| [20:49:25] | squidly: | Lhorian: sleep or wait depending no your shell ;) |
| [20:49:38] | rah: | meshe: no help there |
| [20:49:39] | Lhorian: | CyberKnet: you know where to do that? |
| [20:49:46] | rah: | gbee: help there, thanks |
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| [20:50:11] | meshe: | rah, my ubuntu panels started showing after i upgraded to 9.04 and one of the posts in there fixed it |
| [20:50:13] | CyberKnet: | Lhorian: That would really depend on your distro and/or how you set it up. |
| [20:50:13] | wagnerrp: | if you get distortion by turning your card's volume up too high, you need to buy a new sound card |
| [20:50:20] | wagnerrp: | your card should not be capable of clipping |
| [20:50:30] | rah: | meshe: I don't use compiz |
| [20:50:53] | meshe: | isn't compiz enabled by default nowadays? |
| [20:51:10] | squidly: | meshe: not on my mythbuntu box |
| [20:51:23] | Lhorian: | CyberKnet: OK. Well, it's Mythbuntu 9.04 |
| [20:52:02] | squidly: | Lhorian: /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend |
| [20:52:06] | rah: | meshe: evidently not on all distributions |
| [20:52:26] | wagnerrp: | i would say not on most distributions |
| [20:52:27] | meshe: | squidly: yeah, the one that i had the problem on was my dev box which is regualar ubuntu |
| [20:52:37] | Lhorian: | squidly; Thanks, was already checking out in this dir |
| [20:52:39] | squidly: | meshe: understandable |
| [20:52:49] | squidly: | Lhorian: check out start) in that file |
| [20:53:05] | squidly: | at the top of that functino put a sleep or wait |
| [20:54:00] | rah: | can mythfrontend display not-fullscreen? |
| [20:54:13] | squidly: | rah: mythfrontend --help |
| [20:54:36] | DigitalNY: | Well.. I set the resolution & rate to 640x480_60, horizontal 30–50 manually in the xconfig.. still nothing in mythtv except a black box with a couple lil lines across the center when watching video.. menus are fine |
| [20:54:42] | Lhorian: | squidly: and then put in 'sleep', right? |
| [20:54:50] | DigitalNY: | I can pastebin the xorg.conf |
| [20:54:52] | rah: | squidly: thank you |
| [20:55:23] | squidly: | Lhorian: yea |
| [20:55:26] | squidly: | rah: np |
| [20:56:07] | Lhorian: | squidly: something like 10, what is it? 10 seconds? |
| [20:57:10] | squidly: | Lhorian: sleep 10; yea |
| [20:57:15] | squidly: | Lhorian: or man sleep ;) |
| [20:57:29] | Lhorian: | squidly: thnx |
| [20:57:39] | Lhorian: | bye everybody |
| [20:57:45] | CyberKnet: | later Lhorian |
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| [20:59:37] | J-e-f-f-A: | meshe: ... I went and installed the sample data – how do I clear it to start from 'scratch'??? ;-) (tell me to RTFM if you want...) |
| [20:59:46] | meshe: | reinstall |
| [21:00:09] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ok, thanks. ;-) (meshe) |
| [21:00:13] | meshe: | i takes just a couple minutes and is the easiest way |
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| [21:06:01] | J-e-f-f-A: | meshe: Humm... just transferring the 'installation' dir to the webserver didn't work – but seems that renaming "configuration.php" with '.old' on the end may have done the trick... |
| [21:06:32] | Cancel: | drop the db, drop the tables maybe |
| [21:06:35] | Cancel: | or truncate them |
| [21:06:50] | meshe: | the installer should drop them |
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| [21:07:13] | J-e-f-f-A: | Yeah, and I don't have access to mysql directly – it's a hosted website. ;-) |
| [21:09:45] | DigitalNY: | alright.. any particular distribution that everyone reccomends? I've been through mythbuntu & mythdora.. and both had huge issues with my hardware.. with mythbuntu the nvidia driver absolutely refused to work (I tried all 3 versions it had available) and with mythdora I'm not getting video in mythtv.. just a black screen with two pixel lines of video |
| [21:13:54] | J-e-f-f-A: | DigitalNY: I don't know what to say – both of those are excellent distributions IMHO. I run Fedora Core on most of my boxes, with Myth from source. I had a test box setup with mythbuntu before and didn't have any issues like you're describing with it... (sorry I guess I'm kinda useless today!) |
| [21:14:51] | gbee: | both issues are driver related, but why you'd be having those problems with the nvidia driver ... |
| [21:15:16] | DigitalNY: | I just can't figure out why mythtv would display video playback / live tv as a line across the center of it's window when the desktop & mythtv little preview window displays fine.. *shrug* |
| [21:15:17] | J-e-f-f-A: | DigitalNY: What is your video card??? |
| [21:15:29] | DigitalNY: | Nvidia Geforce 6200 (nv44a) |
| [21:15:39] | DigitalNY: | pci |
| [21:15:48] | J-e-f-f-A: | DigitalNY: Preview window doesn't use hardware acceleration. |
| [21:15:49] | gbee: | DigitalNY: preview isn't hardware accelerated, fullscreen video is |
| [21:16:00] | J-e-f-f-A: | ^^ beat ya by 2 seconds. ;-) |
| [21:16:11] | dustybin: | will mythtv .22 feature smooth scrolling cursor ? |
| [21:16:29] | DigitalNY: | okay.. so it's a hardware accel issue.. try a different nvidia driver? |
| [21:17:03] | J-e-f-f-A: | DigitalNY: Try changing the playback profile to "Slim" – and see if that helps. |
| [21:17:58] | gbee: | dustybin: no, ran out of time |
| [21:18:29] | dustybin: | aye ok |
| [21:18:32] | rah: | I've selected EIT as a video source and run mythfilldatabase but I still don't seem to have any EPG data |
| [21:18:59] | DigitalNY: | no change Jeffa |
| [21:19:22] | J-e-f-f-A: | DigitalNY: What deinterlacer are you using? |
| [21:19:34] | rah: | is there something more I should be doing to get EIT data to be used? |
| [21:19:58] | ** J-e-f-f-A doesn't use EIT, so he's unsure how to answer that question... ;-) ** | |
| [21:20:16] | DigitalNY: | Jeffa: Where would I find that? |
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| [21:22:44] | J-e-f-f-A: | DigitalNY: In the playback profile. I'm running a 6200 AGP on my backend here – works great. |
| [21:23:11] | ** J-e-f-f-A just realized he has to head out to pick up his truck from the tire shop before they close... DOH!!! DigitalNY – be back in 15 mins or so... ** | |
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| [21:43:19] | meshe: | DigitalNY: this file worked for my 6600 with composite out, try it and change the line that says TVOutFormat to SVIDEO for your setup: http://holly.trusty.ca:8080/xorg.conf |
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| [21:54:41] | netrix: | i'm having a tough time figuring out why an ota hd channel is specified hows no guide data, while the sd version i have the same xmltvid for does. |
| [21:54:47] | netrix: | i have disabled eit information. |
| [21:54:53] | netrix: | and run mythfilldatabase. |
| [21:54:55] | netrix: | any ideas? |
| [21:55:22] | netrix: | sorry, ment to say an ota hd channel has no guide data . . . |
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| [21:56:14] | netrix: | if it's still not clear, i set the same xmltvid for both. sorry, my first explanation sucked. |
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| [22:08:45] | J-e-f-f-A: | DigitalNY: Ya still having problems, or did meshe's file help? |
| [22:11:03] | DigitalNY: | I ended up reinstalling mythbuntu.. it had more minor issues.. :-/ |
| [22:11:57] | DigitalNY: | it's doing it's channel scan for the QAM-256 side now |
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| [22:14:33] | DigitalNY: | It's a bit of a pain because our idiotic local cable service (time warner) runs Clear QAM with 64,128&256 modulation depending on the channel... and rebroadcasts vsb-8 local OTA hd |
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| [22:16:00] | J-e-f-f-A: | DigitalNY: yeah, I could see where that's a pain... So far I just run Dish Network SD -> Hauppauge SD tuners, and a HDHomeRun for ATSC OTA. |
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| [22:19:09] | netrix: | what do you use for guide data on atsc ota? |
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| [22:19:25] | J-e-f-f-A: | netrix: Schedules Direct. |
| [22:19:45] | netrix: | J-e-f-f-A: Dang me too, and it find it doesn't have all the data for my area. |
| [22:21:03] | netrix: | when i make changes to xmltvid's in mythweb how do i get the changes to take effect? |
| [22:21:18] | netrix: | i mean like having the guide populate with new data from the corosponding xmltvid. |
| [22:21:31] | J-e-f-f-A: | netrix: Scroll down to the bottom and click the 'save' button iirc... |
| [22:21:56] | J-e-f-f-A: | Then I think you need to run mythfilldatabase.... (It's been a LONG time since I had to do that though – at least 3 years...) |
| [22:22:09] | netrix: | yeah i did that. one my ota hd channels shows the same as the sd channel from cable. so i set the xmltv id's to the same thing and still no love. |
| [22:22:11] | netrix: | yep did that too. |
| [22:22:29] | deeemac: | anyone know if there is anything special you need to do when adding a recording job manually to the database? or if record is the only table that it needs to be added in? |
| [22:23:16] | netrix: | J-e-f-f-A: i can't believe something so simple has me stumped. |
| [22:24:54] | xand: | deeemac: simply adding to the db won't work |
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| [22:25:11] | xand: | you have to talk to the backend too |
| [22:25:16] | J-e-f-f-A: | netrix: Yeah, I honestly don't remember if I had to play around with the xmlids or if they just 'magically' worked in my area... (Boston) |
| [22:26:02] | deeemac: | xand: what do you have to send to that? |
| [22:26:12] | xand: | don't know |
| [22:26:24] | netrix: | J-e-f-f-A: thanks anyways. |
| [22:26:31] | deeemac: | xand: I did mythbackend --resched after, but it didn't pick it up |
| [22:27:01] | deeemac: | is there a command line way of adding a job to record? |
| [22:27:20] | deeemac: | through a mythtv thing, instead of directly in the database |
| [22:27:32] | xand: | I looked briefly at that before but then got bored of it |
| [22:29:10] | deeemac: | I'm just looking for some way of adding a job other than using the default gui |
| [22:29:25] | J-e-f-f-A: | deeemac: use mythweb. |
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| [22:30:41] | deeemac: | J-e-f-f-A: I was looking at doing that, was going to see if there was a easier way than editing all their code to do what I wanted |
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| [22:34:18] | deeemac: | like if its just a matter of adding a row to the record table and runing a command etc. |
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| [22:47:23] | DigitalNY: | J-e-f-f-a: figured out the issue |
| [22:48:00] | DigitalNY: | The nvidia card & the hvr-1600 don't share irq's well because of the proprietary nvidia driver.. and they were both stuck on IRQ17.. moving the cards physically around in the system fixed the issue |
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| [22:51:11] | netrix: | omg. rescanned all my ota and punched in all the xmlid's by hand, let it run myth-filldatabase and my guide still has incorrect data for some channels. wtf. |
| [22:51:46] | laga: | is it EIT scanning? |
| [22:53:29] | netrix: | no, i turned that off. |
| [22:53:40] | netrix: | i should double check. |
| [22:55:06] | netrix: | okay it is on.... i had it off 30 minutes ago and it made no difference. |
| [22:56:59] | DigitalNY: | shouldn't hitting the center "ok" button on the black newer phillips ir media center remotes select the channel to watch from the program guide.. ugh.. yay.. I love setting up remotes (not) |
| [22:57:22] | netrix: | laga: if i turned it off is there anything else i should do? i let mythtv-setup run mythfilldatabase when i exited. |
| [22:57:47] | laga: | netrix: empty the program table? |
| [22:58:18] | netrix: | laga: never done that before, how is it done? |
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| [22:58:33] | laga: | netrix: i usually truncate the program table |
| [22:58:38] | netrix: | laga: or literally clean the program sql table. |
| [22:58:40] | netrix: | ah. |
| [22:58:43] | netrix: | fun. |
| [23:00:23] | Dagmar: | Time to get out the alcohol wipes |
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| [23:04:26] | deeemac: | is there any kinds of api's to use in perl, php, or any web languages for mythtv? |
| [23:04:28] | RyeBrye: | [4:58pm] netrix: laga: or literally clean the program sql table. <-- I don't think you meant what you said |
| [23:04:35] | J-e-f-f-A: | DigitalNY: Humm... ;-) Maybe that's the source of my Hauppague tuner 'scratchy audio' issues... I didn't try that, and all the 'fixes' found on the web don't seem to work for me... ;-) |
| [23:06:04] | netrix: | RyeBrye: ... ? i truncated it like laga suggested. |
| [23:06:12] | netrix: | but i made a backup first just in case.... |
| [23:06:26] | RyeBrye: | I dont think you meant "literally" |
| [23:07:54] | netrix: | RyeBrye: are we playing semantics here? |
| [23:09:16] | meshe: | deeemac: yes, there are perl bindings in myth and a couple other languages |
| [23:10:11] | deeemac: | meshe: do you know where the documentation on it is by any chance? I only found one example on the developer wiki |
| [23:10:29] | meshe: | trunk or 0.21-fixes? |
| [23:11:44] | deeemac: | meshe: you mean just in the svn source code? |
| [23:11:59] | meshe: | which version of myth are you trying to code against? |
| [23:12:07] | deeemac: | 2.1 stable |
| [23:12:29] | deeemac: | http://svn.mythtv.org/svn/branches/release-0-21-fixes/ ? |
| [23:12:39] | deeemac: | It looks like |
| [23:13:05] | meshe: | http://svn.mythtv.org/svn/branches/release-0- . . . tv/bindings/ |
| [23:13:20] | deeemac: | ahh cool, thanks! |
| [23:14:41] | DigitalNY: | What would be the easiest way to move all of mythtv's storage to a different directory.. I have a 2.5TB LVM volume mounted as /storage.. |
| [23:15:04] | sid3windr: | is BBC on sat FTA or scrambled? |
| [23:15:31] | meshe: | DigitalNY: i think the program you're looking for is mythrename.pl |
| [23:16:07] | netrix: | laga: you rock ... truncating the program table and then running mythfilldatbase did the trick. just in the nick of time ... my next recording kicks in 30 minutes too! |
| [23:16:11] | netrix: | laga: thanks again. |
| [23:16:22] | laga: | netrix: :) |
| [23:16:40] | laga: | netrix: did the same thing today when i set up my myth box at my new place :) |
| [23:19:20] | netrix: | laga: cool ... it's a trick i will definitely remember now. |
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| [23:46:42] | mikeones: | should be avalible with any gmail account right? |
| [23:47:01] | mikeones: | opps, wrong window |
| [23:47:03] | wagnerrp: | mikeones: wrong channel? |
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