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Saturday, April 11th, 2009, 00:00 UTC

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genii:

schdav: Thanks

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ravi:

hi

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ravi:

how do I get mythvideo to re-read a directory?

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ravi:

or is it automatic?

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iamlindoro:

Utilties/Setup->Video Manager

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iamlindoro:

Enter that and it will update the video list

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iamlindoro:

(assuming .21 or older)

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ravi:

ah ok

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ravi:

i am using latest trunk

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ravi:

but i'llt ry that

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iamlindoro:

Then that won't work.

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ravi:

oh

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iamlindoro:

Why are you using trunk?

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ravi:

how it the new version different

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ravi:

not sure ... just wanted to compile it myself / have knowledge of how it all worked

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iamlindoro:

You should go back to .21-fixes, then

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ravi:

is the trunk really that bad?!

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iamlindoro:

No, it's just that in order to get help from any of the people here qualified to help with trunk, you need to be following every message on the dev and commits lists

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iamlindoro:

As trunk is intended for development, not to run for the average user

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iamlindoro:

I asked why you were running trunk because the answer to your question ahs been covered countless times on all the myth lists

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ravi:

hmm

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ravi:

the docs are a bit sparse

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iamlindoro:

The docs don't apply to trunk

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ravi:

ok

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iamlindoro:

Commit messages are how you learn what has changed in trunk

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iamlindoro:

docs get updated for releases

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kormoc_:

Read the code and get off my lawn!

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** kormoc_ waves his cane **

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iamlindoro:

get back to rewriting MythWeb in Python, old man

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kormoc_:

Back in my day, men were men, women were woman, and snakes were snakes, not programming languages!

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iamlindoro:

Thanks for the Perl of wisdom

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ravi:

there's a programming language called women?

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ravi:

;)

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SankesAndStuff:

I have a quick question... and I can't find the answer in the wiki etc as I'm new to digital signal over the air and don't understand it quite yet. With a single card (such as a hd-5500) can you record multiple shows, or is that only available if you use multiple input cards, or have a cable box or other device that multiplexes?

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SankesAndStuff:

and I mean simultaneously

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iamlindoro:

Cable boxes don't do any multiplexing

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iamlindoro:

Myth will allow one card to record multiple programs provided a) the card and signal are digital, and b) the two programs to record are on the same mux

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iamlindoro:

See http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Multirec

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SankesAndStuff:

Thank you.

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iamlindoro:

np

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SankesAndStuff:

So in North America it shouldn't be a problem with over the air digital?

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iamlindoro:

In North America OTA multirec is more or less useless

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SankesAndStuff:

Why so?

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iamlindoro:

As most OTA multiplexes in the US are one primary channel, or one primary channel and that channel's news or weather subchannel

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sphery:

iamlindoro: did you notice my message from very early this morning? About Dollhouse/Daisies/Chuck/Kings?

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SankesAndStuff:

Ah, I guess I don't understand what a mux is

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sphery:

mux is basically a single frequency

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iamlindoro:

sphery, Yes, I caught it in the backlog-- you had me believing that dollhouse had been canceled based on your language, jerk!

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sphery:

i.e. NBC and ABC affiliates transmit on 2 different frequencies

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sphery:

heh, just the last episode not running

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sphery:

but they had an argument as to why

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iamlindoro:

sphery, I do still worry for it, but at least this gives it a chance

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sphery:

don't know if it's an indication of things to come, though

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SankesAndStuff:

iamlindoro: So if I'd probably record one program locally and end up just getting whatever else from another source and importing it?

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iamlindoro:

I can't parse that question

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kormoc_:

E_PARSE: Say what?

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sphery:

SankesAndStuff: no, you'd get a 2nd digital capture card so you can record both shows at once

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SankesAndStuff:

iamlindoro: let me rephrase... OTA multirecord in the US is more or less useless... so in the instance of 2 shows being on at the same time on different networks the solution would be to record one show myself, and seek different sources to get the other show and import it into my mythtv videos.

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sphery:

SankesAndStuff: or, you'd record one show with your digital capture card, then go to the Fox/ABC/NBC/.../Hulu website and watch the other show through their player (but not be able to keep it)

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iamlindoro:

SankesAndStuff, As the only legit source of that material would be to record it yourself, no, as sphery mentioned, you would get a second capture card

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SankesAndStuff:

Gotcha.

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iamlindoro:

We don't condone, appreciate, or allow talk of piracy here

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sphery:

a 2nd digital capture card is like $50

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iamlindoro:

As that ain't the free in freenode ;)

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sphery:

so, that's like 50 episodes from iTunes (but you'll get 100x better quality by recording OTA HDTV)

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sphery:

so, it's cheaper to get the second capture card

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iamlindoro:

sphery, Are TV shows .99 on itunes?

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sphery:

I think

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iamlindoro:

I thought they are $2–4

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sphery:

were at one point

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SankesAndStuff:

iamlindoro: I'm not condoing piracy. I was under the impression that some sources allowed legal download of some of their material.

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iamlindoro:

.99 for music

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sphery:

oh, that may be...

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sphery:

you're right...

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iamlindoro:

SankesAndStuff, There is no legal source of downloading US network television

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sphery:

it was $2 or $4 (same on XBox 360, where the $4 is usually higher res)

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iamlindoro:

you can view some online with a flash player

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sphery:

so that means the capture card pays for itself /much/ quicker

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SankesAndStuff:

iamlindoro: Okay. I wasn't condoning piracy... I wouldn't want to suggest such a thing in a legit channel.

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iamlindoro:

ok, sounds good

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iamlindoro:

anyway, the second tuner is well worth it

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sphery:

SankesAndStuff: and note that the HDHomeRun can record 2 channels at once (i.e. it has 2 tuners)

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sphery:

and doesn't take any pci/pcie slots

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SankesAndStuff:

So the HD 5500 card is probably overkill for mythtv?

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sphery:

It's overpriced, anymore

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iamlindoro:

SankesAndStuff, Why would it be overkill?

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iamlindoro:

It's over...dang it sphery

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SankesAndStuff:

(and yes, I do know there is a page on the wiki about card choice)

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sphery:

You may actually be better off getting an A180 or an HVR-1600 and sending the other $80 you saved to EFF directly

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SankesAndStuff:

But the less expensive cards don't necessarily have less tuning ability etc?

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iamlindoro:

anyway, get 2x HVR-1250s, or a couple Pinnacle 800i

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iamlindoro:

It's digital, you don't buy anything more by paying more

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sphery:

HVR-1250 being the digital-only cheaper cousin of the HVR-1600 (IIRC)

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SankesAndStuff:

I know by definition that digital signal is lossless.... I was just reading earlier (and possibly being misinformed) that some cards tended to tune better than others.

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iamlindoro:

There are slight variations in tuner quality across cards, but if you have anything resembling a decent signal you will never know the difference

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sphery:

heh, lossless...

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SankesAndStuff:

What I would be doing would be all OTA digital.

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iamlindoro:

Lossiest Lossless signal evar

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ravi:

hmm why does a frontend need access to files via nfs (mythvideo)?!

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** sphery wonders about these locations with blockiness/audio cutout/... **

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sphery:

I really have to find out what's killing my reception--it's getting worse, again

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sphery:

But FL doesn't have huge amounts of tall trees, so...

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ravi:

so everytime i add a new frontend i'd have to reconfigure it!?

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SankesAndStuff:

And if I've read things correctly, since it OTA is digital and already encoded, I wouldn't be using overhead to store the video other than writing it to disk, correct?

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iamlindoro:

SankesAndStuff, correct

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SankesAndStuff:

So the majority of the overhead would be in playback.

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iamlindoro:

righta gain

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iamlindoro:

er right again

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SankesAndStuff:

so a AMD 3000+ would probably be able to record a single show and playback at the same time?

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sphery:

3000+ (single core) is right on the edge of underpowered for MPEG-2 HDTV playback

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sphery:

I'd recommend a nice 65W TDP AMD Athlon X2 5200+

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sphery:

It's what, $40, now?

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iamlindoro:

$cheap

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SankesAndStuff:

I'll check and see if this mobo supports it... I don't remember the make and model on this current spare parts machine :D

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sphery:

(are you getting the feeling that those of us in here don't see Myth as a way to save money on a PVR?)

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SankesAndStuff:

I do know I have another board and chip that is probably much better as the board is a A8N-SLI.... at least a 4000... I think it is a 5200 tho

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sphery:

The best way to save money with a Myth box is to buy low-power components/efficient PSU's... And shut down the Myth boxes when not in use. :)

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sphery:

the 4000+ wouldn't be bad.

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SankesAndStuff:

Heh, I'm not really trying to save money on anything... just trying to build something as currently I don't even watch ANY TV as I got tired of my cable company

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sphery:

I have a 4800+ that can do 2x timestretch without problems

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sphery:

(and you can't watch TV at more than 1.75x timestretch)

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sphery:

i.e. can't keep up with it.

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sphery:

heh, search for Athlon X2 on newegg and there are no results in the CPU/Processors category

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SankesAndStuff:

I'll probably buy a better chip for whichever board I'm going to use as a frontent/backend and then use the better of my 2 current chips as my main box/another mythtv frotend.

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sphery:

even better, an Athlon X2 4850e 45W TDP for $56: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103255

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sphery:

I really need to replace some of my old Athlon XP systems just for the power savings.

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** genii sends sphery another few solar panels **

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sphery:

heh, I wish I had solar panels (and for free, too)

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genii:

sphery: We are installing some at one of my workplaces

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iamlindoro:

Sigh, I do hate the time of day on the list when JYA wakes up

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iamlindoro:

Thankfully he hasn't found his way here yet

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iamlindoro:

though I should think we'd chase him out

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Dagmar:

Damn liars on FOX.

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sphery:

genii: yeah, if the payback were better, I might consider some, but electricity here is cheap compared to many places in the US

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sphery:

Dagmar: which lie?

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Dagmar:

"Dollhouse will be back in 90 seconds" my lilly white butt

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sphery:

heh

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Dagmar:

Whoa. It *was* 90s that time

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Dagmar:

I feel like I should contact them and ask if there's a problem

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sphery:

ah, another captioner who captions phonetically... "Sending the address to your P. D. Hey!"

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schdav:

jams: trip to microcenter not useful (at least not for an ir device) but i fixed the irblaster.info serial thing (yay tools!) so at least i can change the channel on one stb now.

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Dagmar:

OMFG such an easter egg

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thedarkone:

i have a motorala DCH3200 can i use usb as channel changer?

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wagnerrp:

no

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eclipse[UME]:

has anyone considered using the WII remote as a mouse for mythtv?

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Dagmar:

Probably

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iamlindoro:

http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Controlling_MythTV_using_a_Wii_remote

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iamlindoro:

nope, never ever

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thedarkone:

wagnerrp what should i use

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iamlindoro:

Hopefully most people sober up before doing something like that though

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schdav:

those things burn through batteries

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** dustybin makes iamlindoro some cheese and crackers **

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schdav:

that would cut into my sitting on the couch time

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Dagmar:

It's why real men use rechargeables

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schdav:

Dagmar: still have to get up to recharge it

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Dagmar:

So what

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Dagmar:

You can do it when you change your colostomy bag.

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schdav:

lol

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eclipse[UME]:

na, I just use the litter box next to the couch

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schdav:

eclipse[UME]: what do you need a mouse for?

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eclipse[UME]:

other system work on the front end

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schdav:

ah

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eclipse[UME]:

it would be nice to unteather the keyboard + mouse from that box so I can put it in a closet.

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schdav:

vnc + laptop

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thedarkone:

i have a motorala DCH3200 what should i use for channel changer?

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eclipse[UME]:

good idea schdav

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schdav:

thedarkone: a lego mindstorms robot and a remote control

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eclipse[UME]:

although ssh works better ;)

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schdav:

eclipse[UME]: yeah thats what i use unless its something i have to use the gui for

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schdav:

eclipse[UME]: i.e. firefox -> hulu

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eclipse[UME]:

thats exactly what I'm looking to do firefox -> hulu

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thedarkone:

schdev well i get u here to change channels

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eclipse[UME]:

I did like XBMC and using the xbox controller.

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eclipse[UME]:

that setup was good.

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schdav:

yeah generally hulu looks sad on my 115" projected screen but occasionally i'll do it in a pinch

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eclipse[UME]:

I hear ya

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eclipse[UME]:

the NBC streams are generaly better than HULU

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eclipse[UME]:

but often times I just dl the HD rip and watch it that way

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eclipse[UME]:

too much pixelation on the projector otherwise

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schdav:

thedarkone: does that box have firewire? or a serial port?

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eclipse[UME]:

HULU looks just about as good as my nintendo hooked up to the projector

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schdav:

eclipse[UME]: and by dl i hope you mean legally purchase it

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eclipse[UME]:

absolutely .... iTunes

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schdav:

thedarkone: otherwise you have a few choices in ir transmitters

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schdav:

thedarkone: all of which are heavily documented on various wikis and user lists

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thedarkone:

i mean i seen they say usb port

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schdav:

doubtful that'll work

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thedarkone:

they have firewirl

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thedarkone:

firewire

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thedarkone:

but pc don't

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schdav:

thedarkone: ok well they sell magical cards that will put on in your pc if you've got a spare slot

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schdav:

thdarkone: otherwise buy an ir transmitter or transceiver

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schdav:

or make one

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thedarkone:

i have mce one

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sphery:

wow... big/important information in the season^H^H^H^H^H^Hseries finale of Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles

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justinp_home:

hey, wait – say what?

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GreyFoxx:

is it the end of the series for sure ?

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sphery:

It's not officially cancelled, but it's almost definite.

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sphery:

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/02/22/terminat . . . t-fall/13263

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Dagmar:

Killer robots are hard to produce in the current economic climate

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sphery:

I thought they were all made in the future and sent back to the present ;)

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Dagmar:

sphery: Yeah, but the CFO wasn't buying that excuse anymore

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sphery:

heh

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justinp_home:

Somebody needs to tell them they could totally save a bunch of money by switching to Linux on their CGI machines

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justinp_home:

;)

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Dagmar:

So long as no one starts airing commercials about people being stalked by a penguin with oversized googly-eyes stuck on

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thedarkone:

can any tell me if comcast on demand work with mythtv

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Dagmar:

thedarkone: Probably.

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ColdFyre:

it will, not over firewire

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Dagmar:

With a little luck they'll tell you the answer is no

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sphery:

Wow... Terminator: Judgement Day looks really good.

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iamlindoro:

Yeah it does

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sphery:

even if you're not yet up on T:TSCC, might want to watch the special sneak preview at 31 min after the hour on tonight's episode

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thedarkone:

i mean with lirc

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Dagmar:

Anything that uses IR can be used with LIRC

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Dagmar:

The exceptions to that are so few as to not be worth mentioning.

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justinp_home:

Oh, well...this is why I try not to get too in love with Fox shows

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justinp_home:

They have a habit of farking over the really good ones

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Dagmar:

sphery: Tonight's broadcast of what?

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wagnerrp:

terminator

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sphery:

heh, Terminator Salvation, that is...

[02:50:34]

sphery:

Yeah, in tonight's Terminator TV show

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Dagmar:

Oh frell

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Dagmar:

I didn't have the box record it

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Dagmar:

I guess I'll just watch it on Hulu tomorrow

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justinp_home:

Dagmar, hulu likely won't have the T:S preview

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Dagmar:

Better picture than what freaking Comcast is getting me at any rate

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sphery:

I'm sure it will be online withing days... Just make it special for tonight, then put it up on the movie website...

[02:51:47]

Dagmar:

justinp_home: You wouldn't know this being in the UK and all, but Hulu doesn't miss a chance to pimp anything.

[02:51:50]

justinp_home:

Yeah, probably

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justinp_home:

eh? UK, you say?

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Dagmar:

They've even gotten Dr. Horribles Sing-A-Long Blog back up

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justinp_home:

What gives you that idea?

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Dagmar:

You're not juski?

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justinp_home:

nope

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Dagmar:

Hmm... Roadrunner. I guess not.

[02:52:48]

justinp_home:

dr horrible on hulu?

[02:52:50]

justinp_home:

sweet!

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justinp_home:

I need to pay more attention.

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Dagmar:

"The hammer... is my penis."

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justinp_home:

hehehehehhehehehehehe\

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justinp_home:

Crap.

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Dagmar:

By the way, it's amazing what little it takes to change my opinion of a show

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justinp_home:

I'm all out of free ports on my switch

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Dagmar:

I thought Dollhouse was basically going nowhere, but suddenly after seeing Eliza Dusku in that BDSM outfit, I like it. :)

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justinp_home:

gotta go pick up another one

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justinp_home:

Ya know, Dollhouse was on my radar, but I haven't taken the time to sit down and watch it

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Dagmar:

Eliza Dushku + Leather + Spikes == WIN

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justinp_home:

Yeah, I think I'll have to start watching it. I've got time, now that I'm done with BSG

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AnNahar:

hi, anyone using the asx stream link in mythweb?

[03:01:07]

AnNahar:

wondering how to do that if i use auth

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Dagmar:

You read the comments in the mythweb htaccess template

[03:02:20]

Dagmar:

...because it explains things.

[03:02:39]

AnNahar:

Dagmar, i think you may be thinking of something else

[03:02:50]

AnNahar:

apparently vlc has a way to do it

[03:02:54]

Dagmar:

I might have the filename wrong

[03:04:04]

Dagmar:

VLC has exactly squat to do with it

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AnNahar:

Dagmar, let it go

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Dagmar:

It's *documented*

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Dagmar:

It's right there in the fragment of htaccess directives that mythweb ships out with

[03:05:14]

AnNahar:

i know, that's the one im using

[03:05:34]

Dagmar:

Then please feel free to explain how you were talking about some other asx streaming link

[03:05:55]

AnNahar:

there's definitely no "asx" in that apache configuration file from mythweb

[03:05:58]

AnNahar:

because i just searched

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Dagmar:

READ the file.

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AnNahar:

im READING It dude, what do you think i just said?

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AnNahar:

bbl

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Dagmar:

You said you searched for "asx"

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Dagmar:

That's even less useful than "skimming" it.

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Dagmar:

So, if you'd like to continue to be a dick to people telling you where to find what you need, good luck with that.

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Dagmar:

You done acting a fool yet?

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AnNahar:

Dagmar, i'm done listening to you, yes

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Dagmar:

Well, good luck with that being a jerk to people who tell you the answers you need then.

[03:13:38]

AnNahar:

Dagmar, you're a jerk to everyone in here

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** kormoc sighs **

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Dagmar:

Welcome to the ignore list, prick

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AnNahar:

and in this case, you don't even know what you're talking about, or what i'm asking

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AnNahar:

thanks!

[03:14:17]

AnNahar:

it turns out it's a certificate issue

[03:15:15]

AnNahar:

which means this may be more of an issue with apache than mythweb

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** kormoc raises an eyebrow **

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Dagmar:

He's still talkin' crazy?

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kormoc:

how would a invalid cert be an apache issue?

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kormoc:

that's more of a configuration issue

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AnNahar:

Dagmar, i thought you had me on ignore

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AnNahar:

kormoc, http://pastebin.ca/1388564 that

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AnNahar:

is what vlc is spitting out when i try to play a stream from mythweb

[03:17:54]

AnNahar:

the vlc channel said it means invalid cert

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kormoc:

Right, so buy a valid cert or tell VLC to ignore invalid certs

[03:18:11]

AnNahar:

i used one of the mythweb apache configs, and i have auth to access mythweb remotely

[03:18:18]

Dagmar:

heh

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AnNahar:

kormoc, yeah, im trying to find out how to do the latter, but the guy doesn't know:O

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kormoc:

AnNahar, you could just read the man page, it'd be documented in there if it's an option

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AnNahar:

and no one in #videoland told me

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Dagmar:

*kof*cacert*kof*

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AnNahar:

ah POOP

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AnNahar:

they removed it and they aren't bringing the feature back

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wagnerrp:

ive developed the nVidia corollary to Godwin's Law

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wagnerrp:

As a mythtv user list discussion grows longer, the probability of the discussion degenerating into commentary on VDPAU hardware approaches unity

[03:29:50]

sphery:

x/away

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iamlindoro:

Hahaha, I was just going to guess that that was your theory

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sphery:

Ooops.

[03:30:15]

AnNahar:

kormoc,

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iamlindoro:

wagnerrp, With JYA about, it's a virtual certainty

[03:30:25]

AnNahar:

"You can always install custom Root CAs to %vlcuserdatadir%/ssl/certs"

[03:30:33]

AnNahar:

how would i do that?

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iamlindoro:

wagnerrp, He *cannot* go without recommending his own build and talking about VDPAU as though it can play any codec, without limits

[03:31:19]

AnNahar:

i copy those from a mythweb dir?

[03:31:29]

Dagmar:

Find a nice red herring to keep him busy

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sphery:

Does it do MPEG-1 acceleration? I've got some old 180x240 MPEG-1's that my system strains to play?

[03:32:00]

iamlindoro:

sphery, yes, actually :)

[03:32:10]

sphery:

heh

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kormoc:

AnNahar, that has absoutely nothing to do with myth. You would need to generate a root certificate, then generate your server cert, and then sign your server cert with your root cert, and so on and so forth, well beyond what is on topic in here and instructions are just a google away...

[03:32:34]

sphery:

I guess it's theoretically possible someone might use MPEG-1 for a high-res/high-bitrate video...

[03:33:34]

iamlindoro:

sphery, The Terminator Salvation preview on tonight has been on apple.com for a week or so

[03:33:34]

AnNahar:

which is exactly what i was saying

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AnNahar:

kormoc, i know it has nothing to do with myth, that's what i had said and dagmar argued with me about it

[03:33:51]

sphery:

really...

[03:33:57]

sphery:

they told me it was special

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iamlindoro:

They told you it was a "world television event"

[03:34:17]

iamlindoro:

Which might be true, whatever that means :)

[03:34:17]

sphery:

oh

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kormoc:

AnNahar, no, Dagmar was talking about the documentation we have that skips auth for asx streaming and will stream on port 80

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iamlindoro:

sphery, It's "Trailer 3" on Apple's TS page

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AnNahar:

kormoc, would that get around the whole cert problem?

[03:36:45]

kormoc:

AnNahar, for streaming, yes

[03:36:55]

AnNahar:

kormoc, oh ok

[03:37:08]

AnNahar:

kormoc, i was looking for that information in the mythweb.conf file for httpd but didn't see it

[03:37:19]

Dagmar:

kormoc: Which is exactly the thing he asked about

[03:37:59]

iamlindoro:

sphery, Plus it's got Moon Bloodgood, who is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[03:38:00]

iamlindoro:

hot

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Dagmar:

"hi, anyone using the asx stream link in mythweb?" ... "wondering how to do that if i use auth"

[03:38:17]

wagnerrp:

moon bloodgood? thats someone's actual name?

[03:38:22]

kormoc:

AnNahar, go to settings -> Streaming, set force http for streams enabled

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iamlindoro:

wagnerrp, Yep

[03:38:28]

wagnerrp:

raised by vampire hippies no doubt

[03:38:38]

iamlindoro:

wagnerrp, The chick from Journeyman, and before that, Daybreak

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sphery:

iamlindoro: yeah, I was very upset when they cancelled Daybreak

[03:38:56]

wagnerrp:

i remember day break

[03:39:03]

wagnerrp:

that was disappointing...

[03:39:04]

iamlindoro:

sphery, I liked *both* shows, *annoyed*

[03:39:12]

wagnerrp:

everyone needs a bit of groundhog day in their life

[03:39:18]

iamlindoro:

Which just goes to show that my liking a show is enough to get it canceled

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sphery:

I don't think I watched Journeyman

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wagnerrp:

groundhog day was the best episode of stargate ever

[03:39:38]

Dagmar:

Big blonde dude... Travels through time when he snarts to sneeze

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sphery:

wagnerrp: I loved 200

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Dagmar:

Somehow runs into his ex repeatedly

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kormoc:

AnNahar, and the auth removal is in the mythweb.conf.apache file, as Dagmar indicated

[03:39:55]

sphery:

but Groundhog Day was good, too

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wagnerrp:

which was '200'?

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AnNahar:

so the settings you were talking about, the first

[03:40:30]

** wagnerrp goes to his stargate repository... **

[03:40:33]

Dagmar:

The spoof episode IIRC

[03:40:45]

Dagmar:

Everyone just acted crazy the whole way through

[03:40:52]

sphery:

yeah

[03:41:16]

wagnerrp:

are those a bunch of ewooks?

[03:41:19]

AnNahar:

are in mythweb settings or the mythweb.conf.apache?

[03:41:26]

wagnerrp:

i dont seem to have ever seen this episode

[03:41:28]

kormoc:

AnNahar, in mythweb itself

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Dagmar:

wagnerrp: There may have been an ewok or two in that episode. I don't remember.

[03:41:51]

** genii goes back to watching Return of The Jedi **

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sphery:

wagnerrp: I was watching it on a plane... They did the "Previously" and I'm like, "wait a minute..."

[03:42:05]

Dagmar:

wagnerrp: They did a lot of silly stuff, up to and including spoofing Shatner/StarTrek

[03:42:07]

sphery:

just keep watching, though

[03:42:08]

iamlindoro:

http://versbrava.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/ . . . dgood-10.jpg

[03:42:12]

iamlindoro:

mm mm MMM!

[03:42:18]

Dagmar:

iamlindoro: SFW?

[03:42:23]

wagnerrp:

the 'furlings'

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iamlindoro:

ehhh... ish

[03:42:28]

kormoc:

Skantly clad

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iamlindoro:

underwear

[03:42:41]

Dagmar:

Yeah that's her alright

[03:42:43]

Dagmar:

She's purty

[03:43:00]

Dagmar:

i <3 hapa chix

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AnNahar:

oh i see

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kormoc:

Okay, this is weird

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kormoc:

if you google image search for "British House of Commons", I'm the first hit

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jflatt:

SNL has been marked as rerun every week for at least the past two weeks. Is there something wrong with my system, or is it SD problem?

[03:46:07]

wagnerrp:

isnt the writer in 200 an alien with amnesia, who doesnt remember hes an alien?

[03:46:14]

kormoc:

Aye!

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Dagmar:

kormoc: Um... Because you have a picture of the House of Commons on your site?

[03:46:40]

AnNahar:

kormoc, so really i should only need to change that setting and to port 80, right?

[03:46:48]

AnNahar:

and then i can do vlc http://... .asx?

[03:46:52]

AnNahar:

NOPE

[03:46:57]

AnNahar:

same error

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kormoc:

Dagmar, aye, and not a single other person has a larger pr then 1

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kormoc:

AnNahar, that's sorta impossible given http doesn't to SSL/TLS

[03:47:54]

AnNahar:

kormoc, i checked the box "force http for streams"

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AnNahar:

and force http/https port for streams as 80

[03:48:02]

sphery:

jflatt: last week's shows as original airdate Apr 4, 2009 for me...

[03:48:10]

sphery:

jflatt: It's just a matter of bad luck for you...

[03:48:22]

Dagmar:

Heh. I forgot they spoofed Thunderbirds in there too http://www.sg1archive.com/images/200/Picture-48.jpg

[03:48:51]

AnNahar:

kormoc, isn't that all i should have to do?

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sphery:

jflatt: mythfilldatabase always downloads the listings for tomorrow (+1) and +13... If your local station tells TMS which episode is actually airing on Friday, but after your mythfilldatabase runs, you miss out on the update

[03:49:21]

AnNahar:

kormoc, or does checking that option require an additional installation of myth?

[03:49:31]

kormoc:

no

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wagnerrp:

ill have to check out the invisible jack episode

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AnNahar:

kormoc, ok, so i checked the box and put port 80

[03:49:46]

sphery:

jflatt: we don't download today because mythfilldatabase deletes all shows on a given channel on a given day then fills it bakc in, so if we downloaded today right now, I'd lose 23:49min of listings data

[03:49:51]

jflatt:

ok i didnt notice that before, it says the original airdates on mine are 1975

[03:49:58]

wagnerrp:

or... did that one never actually happen?

[03:50:15]

iamlindoro:

jflatt, any generic episode is always the air date of the show's premiere

[03:50:19]

sphery:

technically, I'd lose 23hrs or 23 1/2 or so, depending on when all the shows that are airing now actually started)

[03:50:35]

iamlindoro:

jflatt, Since SNL premiered in 75, that's the date for generic episodes of SNL

[03:50:43]

sphery:

jflatt: and, on the bright side, Myth /always/ records generic episodes just for this reason

[03:51:08]

sphery:

(always unless you explicitly tell it not to with an Exclude generic episodes filter)

[03:51:20]

Dagmar:

Just tell it to always record at that time and be done with it

[03:51:20]

wagnerrp:

sadly, it seems it never happened

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jflatt:

i think ive got it on new episodes only

[03:51:43]

sphery:

wagnerrp: I think it was a /very/ early episode

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AnNahar:

kormoc, please, shouldn't i just have to change the setting in mythweb?

[03:51:49]

Dagmar:

"Live" shows tend to (annoyingly) not say a damn thing to much of anyone when they decide to reair an old episode

[03:51:54]

AnNahar:

i changed the setting

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wagnerrp:

sphery: the internet claims it never happened

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AnNahar:

to force stream over http

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sphery:

wagnerrp: guess not

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SankesAndStuff:

.nickserv identify 858Sjn3

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iamlindoro:

ahhhhhh

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kormoc:

SankesAndStuff, might want to change that now...

[03:53:16]

wagnerrp:

weee! time to change your passowrd

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iamlindoro:

hahaha

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SankesAndStuff:

Ooooops

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kormoc:

AnNahar, well, you're doing something wrong if it's still using https

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Dagmar:

wagnerrp: You'd be correct, although they _referenced_ the unaired episode during 200

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AnNahar:

oh, i need to uncomment

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iamlindoro:

and probably the ssh password at good ol' 74.194.225.82

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SnakesAndStuff:

actually not... just was bored and was going to see what kind of response I'd get :P

[03:55:14]

SnakesAndStuff:

not even registered w/ nickserv

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iamlindoro:

Just like all those magazines you read "for the articles"

[03:55:43]

Dagmar:

*sigh*... Another 12v-to-5v DC converter disqualified

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kormoc:

iamlindoro, wagnerrp, sphery, http://www.stargatecommunity.com/play/Jack-Invisible-i1737739

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Dagmar:

So, why can't I just use a freaking transformer and a choke to bring the noise down?

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kormoc:

that's the episode I remember, and it's not 200

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AnNahar:

kormoc, so i uncommented those lines in my mythweb.conf and changed the settings to force over http

[03:56:29]

AnNahar:

that should be it, right?

[03:56:36]

kormoc:

restart apache, aye

[03:56:50]

wagnerrp:

kormoc: i get a bunch of videos from a bunch of different episodes

[03:56:52]

AnNahar:

i did so

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SnakesAndStuff:

So, just out of curiousity... how many others in here program AVR microcontrollers?

[03:57:13]

AnNahar:

mplayer http://foo.... .asx says no stream found to handle url...

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kormoc:

wagnerrp, not one at the top?

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wagnerrp:

bah.... noscript strikes again

[03:58:14]

Dagmar:

kormoc: I *think* they aired 200 before the invisible jack episode

[03:58:56]

wagnerrp:

kormoc: all that footage was straight out of 200

[03:59:02]

AnNahar:

kormoc, yeah, it says no stream found to handle...

[03:59:05]

** kormoc blinks **

[03:59:13]

kormoc:

When did they find time to do that with the rest of 200?

[03:59:17]

** kormoc blinks **

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wagnerrp:

200 is an episode of flashbacks

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Dagmar:

No there was an actual episode

[03:59:34]

Dagmar:

I remember seeing it

[03:59:42]

SnakesAndStuff:

Is antenna talk in here alright?

[03:59:42]

kormoc:

I totally remember seeing it too

[03:59:46]

Dagmar:

When 200 aired tho, that episode hadn't yet been aired (or possibly even shot)

[04:00:01]

Dagmar:

SnakesAndStuff: Antennas are for people who can't afford cable

[04:00:05]

Dagmar:

j/k

[04:00:15]

kormoc:

AnNahar, so open up the .asx file and see where the streams point

[04:00:36]

wagnerrp:

i remember something about an invisibility episode

[04:00:38]

genii:

rabbit ears!

[04:00:40]

wagnerrp:

except they werent invisible

[04:00:49]

SnakesAndStuff:

I was just thinking that if multiple directional antennas worked better than a single one that it would be fairly easy to make a switch that works along with MythTV that switches the antenna according to the channel

[04:00:51]

wagnerrp:

but shifted into a slightly different dimension

[04:00:59]

wagnerrp:

they could not be seen or heard

[04:01:19]

wagnerrp:

of course im pretty sure that happened in TNG too, and i may be getting stories crossed

[04:01:21]

sphery:

kormoc: yeah, that's the one where they're out of phase

[04:01:29]

Dagmar:

SnakesAndStuff: Not multiple, just one pointed in the right direction provided you have a directional antenna

[04:01:55]

SnakesAndStuff:

Hmmm... I haven't started experimenting yet... so usually one direction will pick up most?

[04:02:10]

Dagmar:

SnakesAndStuff: If an omnidirectional antenna will get you enough gain to pick up ATSC well, I'd just go with that

[04:02:21]

Dagmar:

SnakesAndStuff: There's no "usually". There's different types of antennas

[04:02:42]

SnakesAndStuff:

Hopefully where I'm moving will have enough coverage that it won't be an issue

[04:02:44]

wagnerrp:

what the hell kind of capacitor banks do they have that they could blow up the entire mountain, from several hundred feet down

[04:02:54]

Dagmar:

Some are designed to amplify what they pick up in one direction, some in two directions, some everywhere but below and above them (might as well be omnidirectional, but usefully so)

[04:03:25]

Dagmar:

wagnerrp: I think some conventional explosives were involved there

[04:03:49]

Dagmar:

Those giant flywheel backups tend to be very sturdily constructed

[04:04:20]

Dagmar:

Something to do with people not being keen on having a two ton bit of fishing weight spinning out of control at > 100 RPM going off it's base

[04:04:51]

wagnerrp:

s/100/10000/

[04:05:13]

Dagmar:

See, I don't even want to THINK about being near that

[04:05:41]

Dagmar:

I know one actually *failed* at one of the facilities iAsiaWorks built, and the technicians present at the time almost wet themselves.

[04:05:57]

wagnerrp:

i can imagine

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Dagmar:

I was told they could hear it grounding out, outside the facility

[04:06:38]

Dagmar:

They would't even find bits of you if those things could come out of their casings that easily

[04:07:09]

wagnerrp:

well they had to rip off farscape... considering they already have half the cast

[04:07:22]

Dagmar:

No complaints here.

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Dagmar:

Claudia Black is delicious

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wagnerrp:

every possibility exists in another dimension

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wagnerrp:

such as the possibility that we are all controlled by puppeteers in the ceiling

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Dagmar:

Ceiling Cat woudln't let that go on

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Dagmar:

You know how cats and string are.

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wagnerrp:

hahahaha! their strings got cut, and they collapsed on the other end

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Dagmar:

kormoc: This look familiar to you? http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/WellIntentioned-Destruction.aspx

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Dagmar:

devpts isn't mounted

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Dagmar:

wrong chan

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achew22:

Is there any published documentation on the python bindings for myth?

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kormoc:

Dagmar, aye, just a tad

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Dagmar:

:)

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mythbox1:

a little help please:

[05:22:53]

mythbox1:

i upgraded my mobo and now cannot boot into mythdora 10.21

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mythbox1:

I get a message: unable to access resume device /dev/volgroup00/logvol02

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mythbox1:

mount: error mounting /dev/root on /sysroot as ext3: no such file or directory

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wagnerrp:

that sounds like something you should ask the fedora people

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wagnerrp:

or maybe mythdora

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wagnerrp:

that has to do with a broken distro install, not a broken mythtv

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mythbox1:

i figured as much... just hoping that someone in here has some fedora 10 exp. I am pretty new to linux

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RyeBrye:

Fedora 10 didn't support my motherboard so I switched to Kubuntu (after years of picking on Ubuntu users and calling them mindless drones) and haven't really looked back. – ymmv of course

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mythbox1:

I booted another hard disk I had laying around to fedora 10 and it came up just fine, I don't know if it matters but the one I tested is SATA(it was originaly installed that way) and the one I use for mythdora is IDE. The new MB has only one IDE channel, so the only thing that didn't get connected was the DVD drive.

[05:39:30]

mythbox1:

i am able to run the mythdora rescue, and get a command shell... any suggestions on what I should change to get my distro working again?

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wagnerrp:

the RENNtech modified C63 AMG has a radar jammer embedded in the mirror....

[05:41:59]

wagnerrp:

.... oh this cant end well...

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ravi_:

hi all

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ravi_:

what do I need to get alsa support?

[06:15:02]

wagnerrp:

alsa compiled into your kernel

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ravi_:

i am sure I have that because I am using a stock ubuntu kernel

[06:16:14]

wagnerrp:

well with stock ubuntu, and the ubuntu binaries, it should work just fine

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ravi_:

do i need some kind of development headers?

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wagnerrp:

only if you intend to compile something (i.e. do development)

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ravi_:

ah ... well, i am compiling mythtv from svn (0.21 this time)

[06:19:08]

ravi_:

ah it works

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ravi_:

had to install libasound2-dev

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ravi_:

i see that 021 uses qt3

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ravi_:

where as trunk uses qt4

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wagnerrp:

that is correct

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wagnerrp:

why do metallic terminators go through the temporal bubble naked? i mean their 'clothes' are just colored metal anyway

[06:35:16]

sphery:

wagnerrp: My thoughts exactly...

[06:35:32]

sphery:

I didn't mention it, though, for fear of spoiling it for others...

[06:35:44]

wagnerrp:

well now you spoiled everything!

[06:35:50]

wagnerrp:

i could have been talking about the second movie

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sphery:

Gotta say Hulu was nice for watching the last 10min of the Fringe episode that got American-Idol'ed, but I don't think I could have handled more than about 10min through hulu

[06:36:51]

sphery:

I thought you were talking about the 2nd movie? :)

[06:37:19]

wagnerrp:

i mean besides the fact that robert patrick is a sexy beast

[06:37:33]

sphery:

heh

[06:37:58]

sphery:

lot of good info in that movie...

[06:38:24]

sphery:

if it turns out to be the last, er, movie, I think it works that way.

[06:38:51]

sphery:

Though I hope there's at least another season of movies.

[06:39:51]

wagnerrp:

they better have at least a couple more movies

[06:40:10]

sphery:

well, it's not looking good for more...

[06:40:15]

wagnerrp:

if for no other reason, to give an ending

[06:40:25]

wagnerrp:

that last movie had quite the cliff hanger

[06:40:33]

sphery:

true...

[06:40:39]

sphery:

but it did answer a lot of questions

[06:40:53]

sphery:

and, the future has to always be an unknown...

[06:41:23]

sphery:

we can just assume that someone time traveled sometime and changed stuff if we don't get more

[06:41:47]

wagnerrp:

well what i dont understand is that a couple movies ago, when that one liquid movie whiped out that whole movie filled with movies, when shes actually around to protect movies from the movies

[06:42:56]

wagnerrp:

i guess shes working under the premise that the movies justify the movies

[06:43:04]

sphery:

I guess so

[06:43:20]

sphery:

didn't want the movies to get leaked all over the Internet

[06:43:28]

sphery:

too early for them to be seen

[06:43:33]

wagnerrp:

but wasnt that movie making the movies that crashed into her movie at the end of the last movie?

[06:43:49]

sphery:

I wondered where that movie came from...

[06:44:16]

sphery:

It looked like a different movie design from the one that got stolen from the movie, though.

[06:44:24]

sphery:

didn't get a good view, so I may be wrong

[06:44:38]

wagnerrp:

they saw lifting up out of that pit of movie, out in the desert by that movie, where all those people in the movie were movied

[06:44:55]

sphery:

I wondered if the liquid movie on the ground started out as part of her or "infected" her after the movie came through the window

[06:45:02]

wagnerrp:

oh, it was a different movie you think? ill have to check

[06:45:24]

sphery:

I didn't keep the old movie, so I can't compare

[06:45:25]

wagnerrp:

yeah, the fact that it was in the shape of a movie was rather ominous

[06:45:29]

sphery:

was going off memory

[06:45:39]

sphery:

yeah

[06:48:59]

wagnerrp:

yeah, the movie that crashed into the movie in the latest movie is definately a lot smaller than the one that rose out of the movie a couple of movies ago

[06:49:57]

sphery:

yeah, and this seemed to be an x-wing movie versus a ducted-fan type movie

[06:50:21]

sphery:

perhaps it was the movie's brother that sent this one

[06:51:10]

sphery:

I just don't understand why the movies--that said "No" when they were asked in the future--are actually doing the "Yes" in the present

[06:51:44]

wagnerrp:

well theres like three factions

[06:52:12]

wagnerrp:

the movies that want to kill the movies

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sphery:

3? I could have guessed 2...

[06:52:43]

wagnerrp:

the movies that want to kill the other movies because those movies are trying to kill them in the first place

[06:52:51]

wagnerrp:

and the movies that just want all movies to live in harmony

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sphery:

hmmm...

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sphery:

makes sense

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sphery:

just based on the number of movie plots we've discussed, it sounds like there need to be more movies

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wagnerrp:

hey Dibblah, movie movies movies movies but movie movies movied and movied

[06:53:59]

sphery:

Let's hope for another season of movies

[06:54:57]

wagnerrp:

man, that would have been so much better if he immediately left

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sphery:

heh

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wombo_:

Does mythphone still need to be disabled on a trunk SVN install?

[07:40:24]

wagnerrp:

mythphone?

[07:40:38]

wagnerrp:

i know not this that you speak of

[07:41:05]

wombo_:

The phone plugin that got ripped out of trunk

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wagnerrp:

right, its gone... no need to do anything about it

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wombo_:

I just want to update the source install documentation and from memory it got removed

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wombo_:

ok I will update then

[07:41:41]

wombo_:

What about Mythnetflix

[07:41:43]

wombo_:

?

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wagnerrp:

a couple months ago now

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wombo_:

cool

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wagnerrp:

i was under the impression mythflix was a 3rd party plugin

[07:42:27]

wagnerrp:

ah... no

[07:42:31]

wagnerrp:

mythflix is enabled by default

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wombo_:

ahh ok

[07:43:09]

wagnerrp:

actually, everything but faac in mythmusic is enabled by default

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wombo_:

ok I will just remove mythphone then, thanks

[07:55:54]

grokky:

Can anyone advise the best method for finding out what all the default preassigned names for theme XML elements are?

[07:56:24]

wagnerrp:

like... for theme design?

[07:56:50]

wagnerrp:

if youre developing something for myth, #mythtv is the better place to be

[07:57:37]

wombo_:

I think there is a website that covers all of that

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wagnerrp:

http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythUI is probably a good place to start

[07:59:29]

wagnerrp:

although there doesnt seem to be much there

[08:00:20]

wagnerrp:

http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/wiki/MythUIThemeFormat

[08:00:35]

wagnerrp:

just understand that the mythui stuff in trunk is very much still in progress

[08:00:51]

wagnerrp:

so theres not a whole lot that has gone into documentations so far

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grokky:

actually this: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythUI_Theme_Development seems to be the most comprehensive.

[08:01:24]

wagnerrp:

ah, yeah... thats the one i was looking for

[08:01:34]

wagnerrp:

i saw it earlier, but couldnt remember where

[08:01:38]

grokky:

but it is still missing some key info for budding theme developers.

[08:03:36]

wagnerrp:

well gbee (the mythui lead) and iamlindoro (deep into a theme) are currently probably the best people to look for assistance

[08:03:48]

justinh:

heh

[08:03:58]

justinh:

yeah leave me out of it

[08:04:41]

justinh:

there's not yet any listing of every possible attribute for themes... but the source code for theme parsing isn't hard to read

[08:05:22]

wagnerrp:

look through the code, look through the Terra demo theme, work things out for yourself

[08:05:36]

wagnerrp:

or wait until 0.22 is released and hope for some more documentation by that time

[08:05:36]

justinh:

themers have a better start than I ever did

[08:07:13]

justinh:

wagnerrp: there's way more theme documentation now than there ever was

[08:07:44]

wagnerrp:

justinh: sure, but gbee is frequently throwing out changes

[08:08:04]

wagnerrp:

perhaps not big changes, but tweeks nontheless

[08:08:09]

justinh:

been ages since there was a mythui commit

[08:08:22]

justinh:

certainly anything xml format related

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grokky:

justinh: agreed. I think the doco I linked to above is a great start. I've had a squiz at the code, I think my problem is I'm looking for something which is no longer there (the preassigned "size" textarea).

[08:08:36]

justinh:

grokky: hmm?

[08:09:07]

justinh:

<textarea name="foo">x,y,Xsize,Ysize</textarea>

[08:09:27]

justinh:

size as in a file size you mean? ah

[08:09:38]

justinh:

in which part of mythtv?

[08:10:16]

wagnerrp:

really? i see iamlindoro and gbee frequently discussing modifications

[08:10:28]

wagnerrp:

of course my concept of time has been rather non-existent recently

[08:10:33]

wagnerrp:

that could have been weeks ago

[08:10:34]

justinh:

wagnerrp: doesn't always equate to commits ;-)

[08:10:59]

justinh:

I'm keep myself pretty much up to date for when I break into theming again

[08:11:23]

wagnerrp:

even though youve sworn it off a dozen times over already? :P

[08:11:37]

justinh:

there might be new things added but I doubt tags will be changing syntax etc at this stage

[08:11:51]

justinh:

wagnerrp: come on... it's inevitable

[08:14:11]

justinh:

not guaranteed though, and depends on whether I succeed in making code changes to acheive the things I need for my ideas to work well

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justinh:

not going anywhere without those changes

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justinh:

grokky: some hard-coded definitions have changed or were removed but it wouldn't be hard to add em back

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grokky:

that's what I'm thinking. I was using a "size" element to show the size o recorded programs in the playbox box. stopped working. I think it has perhaps been removed. hence why I can't find it in the code.

[08:16:28]

justinh:

ah

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grokky:

I thought it might have been renamed, but can't find it.

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justinh:

thought that's what it might have been so I'm having a look in playbackbox.cpp

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justinh:

dunno why anybody is concerned with the filesize for that screen though.. but since the delete recordings screen view was taken away...

[08:18:16]

justinh:

hmm don't think the metadata is displayed in playbackbox.cpp

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sveinung:

I want myth and a wine app to access my sound card at the same time. Do i have to do the whole jack thing or is it possible to do with alsa only?

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wagnerrp:

should be no problem with alsa

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wagnerrp:

jack is really only used in applications where you need extremely low latency

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wagnerrp:

usually audio creation

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justinh:

grokky: it will be in playbackbox.cpp if it's anywhere

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sveinung:

i get device busy. Should i create a new "virtual" device for myth and let the other use default?

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wagnerrp:

i dont know... ive never had problems with multiple applications using alsa simultaneously

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wagnerrp:

it has always 'just worked' for me

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sveinung:

analog or digital out?

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grokky:

justinh: yeah. I've just looked through it and no go. It must have been taken out. Which is a litle odd. i though it would be useful, especially when deciding what to delete first, bsed on size. No biggie though.

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wagnerrp:

analog

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justinh:

grokky: it wasn't taken out. more than it just hasn't been ported

[08:25:21]

justinh:

*that

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wagnerrp:

for digital, thats going to be a bit complicated, as you can no longer use passthrough

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sveinung:

OK. my output is digital (spdif koax)

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justinh:

should be relatively easy to add it there grokky

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wagnerrp:

youre going to have to decode everything, and let also multiplex and re-encode to ac3/dts

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wagnerrp:

or, just stick to 2-channel LPCM

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justinh:

grokky: it's well known some stuff didn't make it because it'd be trivial to put it back in ;-)

[08:26:37]

justinh:

people had better things to do.. functional, working ports to mythui were needed & there was little time for all the detail devils

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grokky:

I had, perhaps mistakenly, assumed it had been ported as it used to work after the playbackbox had been ported to mythui.

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justinh:

maybe it's somewhere else. worth a grep :)

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sveinung:

about half of my recordings have ac3 + mpeg2. The rest is mpeg2 only.

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gbee:

grokky: might have been renamed to something like filesize, but check libs/libmythtv/programinfo.cpp ProgramInfo::ToMap() for a full list of available info

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justinh:

playbackboxlistitem.cpp

[08:28:59]

justinh:

heh

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justinh:

might be a good time for a wiki page to be created.

[08:31:28]

justinh:

progMap["filesize"] = longLongToString(filesize);

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justinh:

blimmin eck somebody went to town there gbee ;)

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gbee:

you can even have the director's favourite colour

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gbee:

heh, mythui EPG is fast

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gbee:

even better, Paul has copied over the icon bug :p

[08:37:44]

justinh:

time for me to log into the wiki then eh

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justinh:

what's the difference between recordingstatus & recstatus?

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gbee:

I did know this, but right now I can't remember

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gbee:

think it's format of the string

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gbee:

that stuff is a little messy, but it was like that when I got here boss

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justinh:

one way to find out :)

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gbee:

aye, if in any doubt, stick it in a theme and found out :)

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grokky:

thanks gbee, justinh. filesize_str was what I was after. Was just looking in the wrong place (and filesize or size aren't very unique to grep on)!

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Dibblah:

Dman. There was a recent "doubled recording length" type fix recently, but I can't remember when :(

[08:54:59]

Dibblah:

Damn, even.

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justinh:

so what does filesize do in a theme then?

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justinh:

hmmm just a long string of whatever is in the recorded table prolly

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justinh:

big number in bytes no doubt

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oobe:

i want to do a fresh install of a newer os version and want to install mythtv from scratch without importing a database backup but i would like to keep my recordings schedule and recorded tv shows what tables do i need to backup and restore

[09:03:31]

grokky:

justinh: yep filesize is bytes, filesize_str is GB.

[09:03:41]

cecil:

oobe: read the mythtv doc

[09:03:53]

oobe:

i am

[09:04:05]

oobe:

http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Backup_your_databa . . . new_hardware

[09:04:10]

oobe:

that is what im reading

[09:04:21]

oobe:

i just need to know what tables are necessary

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cecil:

keep reading

[09:05:47]

cecil:

http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-23.html#ss23.7

[09:05:54]

grokky:

<shape name="box"> is great. Don't have to make png's for alpha'd backgrounds. Pity you can't seem to use it within buttonlist state's – then you could make simple selection bars without using any graphics.

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justinh:

can't you? I'd have thought it would be usable anywhere a graphic can be used

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oobe:

is the record table my recording schedule

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justinh:

bugger. dont' have permission to add pages

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gbee:

grokky: there should be no reason for it not to work within the buttonlist states

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gbee:

if it's really not working then I'll have to take a look

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gbee:

might be that CopyFrom on the shape widget is broken

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justinh:

two shapes, one in white with 25% alpha or so.. half the size of the shape it's on top of.. perfect shiny button :)

[09:16:50]

justinh:

ohhh the joy of not having to faff around editing SVGs, exporting & copying PNGs... :D

[09:17:05]

grokky:

gbee: I'm not positive. I'm new to theming myth. This is my first go. I'm just investigating a bit further now. It might be my dodgy xml. sounds like justinh has it working.

[09:17:18]

justinh:

hahaha I never said that

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justinh:

I'm saying that in theory, it should just drop into anywhere you can use an image

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justinh:

or anything else infact

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justinh:

unless there's a bug there.. which is certainly possible

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justinh:

well, time to get ready. stuff to do

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gbee:

would definately break if CopyFrom was wrong and I know that Paul isn't strong on the concept there

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grokky:

gbee: it does not seem to work within a <state>. it works outside of one, ie, in <statetype> BUT, the boxes dissapear as soon as I change to a different group.

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grokky:

gbee: probably not related or important, but a shape drawn within <clock> in menu-ui.xml comes up at the wrong Z depth – over the clock text, rather than under it. Works fine if shape is defined outside of <clock> so no big deal and perhaps expected behaviour.

[09:29:26]

grokky:

shape not working within states is annoying though. I've double checked the xml and can't see anything wrong, so I'm guessing a bug.

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gbee:

looking at it now

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gbee:

the within clock one is expected and unavoidable, to fix it we'd have to change the way the clock is constructed

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grokky:

gbee: figured as much. I think I just saw the box shape dissapear on its own (when it was defined within statetype but outside state, when a recording finished and presumably the screen was refreshed ( I have a another statetype for recording status).

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grokky:

I'm 90% sure I didn't touch anything keyboard/remote related. Dunno if this helps point the finger at the bug.

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gbee:

grokky: check the dimensions aren't larger than the containing state/statetype

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gbee:

if necessary, give the state/statetype an area equal to the shape

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grokky:

gbee: no joy. Still will not draw when inside a state.

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gbee:

grokky: ok, I haven't had a chance to play with the shape stuff yet, I'll look into it

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grokky:

gbee: no problem and no rush. Thanks for offering to look into it and for all your mythui efforts – its fantastic.

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janneg:

iamlindoro: I thought I had already committed the enable plugins" change

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janneg:

but mythuiwebbrowser.cpp was still modified on my disk

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janneg:

javascript is at least for me already enabled, if it's not please reopen the ticket

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janneg:

thanks for the reminder

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linagee:

anyone here watch dollhouse? i'd bet echo's handler is either working for the NSA also, or working for alpha. echo did not detect it could be him because she was programmed to inheritantly trust him.

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Nockian:

hell no

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yalu_:

helolo. my cpu usage is at 100% when watching a dvd and the sound/video stutters... I don't have that when I use mplayer! what can I do about it? except for using mplayer which is less convenient

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Shadow__X:

go in display options you can try cpu--

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yalu_:

Shadow__X: is that the same setting for live tv? because live tv works fine

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Shadow__X:

i believe it is but i am not 100 percent sure

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Shadow__X:

i would still try that and see how it works

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Shadow__X:

also what overlay are you using in mplayer

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yalu_:

overlay? I don't know what that means...

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kormoc:

slim is the typically recommended setting

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kormoc:

and live-tv might not be as hungry as your dvd, hence why one would work and one wouldn't

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Shadow__X:

oh ok kormoc so in this situation slim would be better then cpu--

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kormoc:

aye, in theory

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Shadow__X:

oh ok ill keep that in mind

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yalu_:

then again where do I set that setting for the dvd? :-)

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thedarkone:

can u tell me if a pentuim d 3.2 ghz is any good

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Shadow__X:

thedarkone, its a processor what do you mean by anygood

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thedarkone:

i mean for myth

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Shadow__X:

i basically 2 p4's stuck together

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Shadow__X:

s/i/its

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Shadow__X:

what do you plan on doign for mythtv

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Shadow__X:

it believe it all depends on what you plan to do with it determines what you need

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AriX_:

hmmmm

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thedarkone:

as a Backend

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Shadow__X:

what tuners are you going to have? do you plan to do hd and sd?

[16:08:09]

thedarkone:

hd and sd

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thedarkone:

2 pvr 500's

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Shadow__X:

how are you recording hd over a pvr 500

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thedarkone:

oh i can't

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thedarkone:

sorry

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thedarkone:

just sd

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Shadow__X:

also since the pvr 500s have mpeg encoders that wont need alot of processing power and aslong as you have a video card that is well supported then it more than adequate

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kormoc:

it's fine for SD

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thedarkone:

i have nvidia 6200 gt 512mb

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thedarkone:

hd

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** kormoc blinks **

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kormoc:

why did you just say 'hd' there?

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thedarkone:

says it hd

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tank-man:

turbo

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Shadow__X:

supercharged turbo more like it

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kormoc:

Marketing Dribble...

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thedarkone:

this what i was planing on doing is making this backend and having 5 frontends

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kormoc:

then the gfx card is meaningless and you have plenty of power for that

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thedarkone:

yeah

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thedarkone:

cool

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thedarkone:

will ondemand work?

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Shadow__X:

the computer will turn on ondemand

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thedarkone:

i am using comcast hcm3200

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thedarkone:

but can i watch ondemand on it

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kormoc:

if you program enough steps into it, sure

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thedarkone:

okay have u tried it

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thedarkone:

?

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kormoc:

Nockian, I don't want my mythbox ordering for pay programs

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kormoc:

*no

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thedarkone:

well comcast here offers free movies

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thedarkone:

and music videos

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kormoc:

sure, but myth doesn't know what is free and what isn't

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thedarkone:

oh so it basicly useless?

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kormoc:

yes

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thedarkone:

so i couldn't watch a free movie

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kormoc:

not via myth

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thedarkone:

that beats the perpose of setting up myth

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thedarkone:

lol

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Shadow__X:

didnt you read what mythtv was for?

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thedarkone:

pvr

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Nockian:

mythtv is great for me so far

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Nockian:

can't believe i didn't do it a long time ago

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thedarkone:

lol

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wagnerrp:

thedarkone: you *could* set up a manual recording, buy the PPV content, and record it

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wagnerrp:

but the only way youre going to do it automagically is though some sort of OCR-based screen scraper

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tank-man:

why record it if it is ondemand content that is free ?

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kormoc:

because for it to be in myth, you have to record it?

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bulle:

sadly computers still cant read our minds, and just automagicaly transfer all that we want to see to our computers, we actualy have to tel them to do it =(

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** bulle hopes windows 7 will fix that **

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sphery:

iamlindoro: any reason why no JavaScript in [20351] ?

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kormoc:

sphery, might be better to ask janne?

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sphery:

yeah, just wondered if iamlindoro had heard anything.

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sphery:

I would think that on today's web, the JavaScript is more important than plugins (though I'll admit that there's a lot of web that requires plugins, too)

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kormoc:

well, most sites with video content (youtube, hulu, etc) all require plugins *and* js

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sphery:

yeah

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sphery:

I wonder if janneg knows something I don't--like that enabling plugins automatically enables JS or something.

[17:30:00]

sphery:

anyway, not that big a deal, and I'm sure someone who's actually using it will get it sorted.

[17:31:45]

sphery:

heh, http://doc.trolltech.com/4.5/qwebsettings.html#WebAttribute-enum : "QWebSettings::PluginsEnabled: Enables or disables plugins in web pages. Currently Flash and other plugins are not supported."

[17:31:55]

sphery:

according to iamlindoro it was working well.

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kormoc:

heh

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kormoc:

I read that as it's entirely a noop

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kormoc:

as flash and other plugins reads like all to me

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sphery:

guess "not supported" means "use if you like, but we're not responsible"

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sphery:

that is true...

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sphery:

all plugins are either flash or other plugins...

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sphery:

kind of like, "QWebSettings::JavaEnabled: Enables or disables Java applets. Currently Java applets are not supported."

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sphery:

make up your mind, API

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kormoc:

Hrm

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kormoc:

I ran into a problem with my plan of using the nvidia ion platform

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kormoc:

there's never been any mention of wifi at all

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bulle:

kormoc: so just use whatever wifi stuff you like ?

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kormoc:

bulle, it doesn't have any pci/pci-e slots

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bulle:

kormoc: usb then ?

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sphery:

I think, in keeping with the SciFi rename, they should call it WyFy, now

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kormoc:

for 802.11n? don't think it exists currently

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bulle:

guess that might not be optimal if you want to stream stuff over wifi

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bulle:

kormoc: it sure exists

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kormoc:

well, with linux support?

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bulle:

kormoc: atheros has usb chips, that do 802.11n, at both 2.4 and 5ghz, and have released opensource gpl driver, that is to be included in 2.6.30 aswell

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bulle:

ar9170 is the name of the driver

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bulle:

seems ralink also have provided source for their 802.11n usb thingy

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kormoc:

bulle, http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/ar9170

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bulle:

http://www.linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers

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kormoc:

bulle, doesn't actually support N yet

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bulle:

kormoc: use the otus driver then, it does

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bulle:

kormoc: thats what i use

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kormoc:

for what usb device?

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bulle:

kormoc: ar9170 based ones

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kormoc:

I'm currently using a ath9x card and it doesn't support p2p or ap modes, which make it kinda sucky

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bulle:

kormoc: the otus one, is what atheros provided, and its being "transfered" or rewritten or whatever, into the ar9170 driver, and otus do n modes just fine, so the ar9170 will do it to, if it doesnt do it yet, i have only tried the otus driver realy

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bulle:

there is also rt2800usb something, but i havent tried those devices

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kormoc:

Ahh, it does to p2p but no ap modes

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bulle:

mind, i have only used 2.4ghx 802.11n with the otus driver not 5ghz, so i can comment on how it works at 5ghz

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wagnerrp:

is there a simple way to renumber users and groups?

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wagnerrp:

im trying to use sshfs, but mismatching groups and users are causing problems

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kormoc:

wagnerrp, if it's only one level, sshfs has an option to set the uid/gid

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wagnerrp:

kormoc: im just going to change them and hope for the best

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wagnerrp:

theres only one user on my laptop, and the little services that pick up user accounts dont seem to actually own any files

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janneg:

sphery: javascript was already activated. at least youtube works here with the change I committed

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janneg:

sphery: iamlindoro is the wrong person to ask, since the patch in #6449 enabled also javascript

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wagnerrp:

seems the RAID at work is not quite fast enough to keep up with 8 instances of bzip

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wagnerrp:

and there went the thermal alarm...

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hachi:

do the 'user specified jobs'... or whatever they're called... are they locked around them

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hachi:

or some conceptual lock?

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wagnerrp:

locked?

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wagnerrp:

what do you mean?

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hachi:

I'm curious if a file is deleted while one of those is running, how does mythtv handle it

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hachi:

does it wait till the job is finished to process the delete request?

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Nockian:

can someone recommend a decent remote to use with mythtv? i was going to just get one of the packaged MCE remotes with the IR receiver included unless there's something easier/cheaper/better

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wagnerrp:

no idea

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hachi:

hmmm, okay

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wagnerrp:

Nockian: the mceusb2 line is fairly simple to set up

[19:15:01]

hachi:

today is the day I build my mythtv dev setup... been failing to do that for a while

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wagnerrp:

unless you want to do something special, its better to get a receiver that comes with a remote

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Nockian:

wagnerrp: these ones? http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MCE_Remote

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Nockian:

version 2 of those, that is

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wagnerrp:

otherwise, youre going to have to program the IR codes in lircd.conf yourself

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Nockian:

yeah, i'd prefer easier

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wagnerrp:

Nockian: correct

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hachi:

while I appreciate the MCE remote, in fact I like it

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Nockian:

okay, thanks

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wagnerrp:

i have a pair of them

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hachi:

I kinda wish there was some alternative that wasn't handing microsoft a little money :)

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wagnerrp:

the only thing i struggled with getting it working was that i needed a version of lirc that was marked as 'development' by my package system

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wagnerrp:

so i had to force the installation of the newer version

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wagnerrp:

once there, the codes were all recognized

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wagnerrp:

and it took handful of tweaks to my lircrc to migrate my old hauppauge codes

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wagnerrp:

lircd.conf converts from a HEX code to a named command, and then the lircrc converts from the named command to a program action

[19:19:47]

wagnerrp:

my hauppauge receivers were fairly painless as well

[19:20:03]

wagnerrp:

the only problem was that the cable was fairly short, and it required a tuner card to be installed in the system

[19:20:18]

wagnerrp:

ive heard the blasters on those things are finicky too

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Nockian:

yeah, i've had both the HVR-1600 and HVR-1250 and couldn't get the IR to be recognized by linux. it would load the module correctly, but i think it was something going on with the physical plug of the card, they're very loose

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Nockian:

i'm going to return the HVR-1250 because the analog side doesn't work, which is a bummer

[19:25:03]

Nockian:

the HDHomeRun works great, though

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wagnerrp:

supposedly the 1600 works with the hauppauge ir driver

[19:25:35]

Nockian:

anyways, i'm just going to get an mceusb2 IR receiver/remote package

[19:25:36]

wagnerrp:

but the 1250 does not

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Shadow__X:

1600 analog and digital works

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wagnerrp:

also, the 1250 does not have an mpeg encoder

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wagnerrp:

so you would be ill advised to use the analog side, even if it were working

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Nockian:

wagnerrp: yeah, i could get the 1600 to work, but the connection in the back kept disconnecting

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Shadow__X:

Nockian, i have 2 hvr 1600s and the connections stay on

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Nockian:

if i propped a piece of cardboard up behind the HVR-1600 to hold the cable just right, it would work

[19:26:43]

wagnerrp:

if you buy the 1250, you get a inexpensive ($50) PCIe digital tuner

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Nockian:

Shadow__X: yeah, it was just that particular card

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wagnerrp:

its hard to find a cheaper retail digital tuner

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Nockian:

wagnerrp: that's true

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Nockian:

and the digital side works great

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wagnerrp:

you can find cheaper PCI tuners, but usually only as a refurb, or some sort of sale

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wagnerrp:

anyway, im happy with mine, and ive got a pair of 150s for my analog needs

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Shadow__X:

wagnerrp, if i knew how to i could allow myth to use the 1800

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wagnerrp:

yeah, on newegg theres one KWorld priced abnormally low at $20, and the rest are $45+

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wagnerrp:

Shadow__X: the digital side should work just fine

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wagnerrp:

the analog side... dont know about that one

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wagnerrp:

you can try just accessing the mpeg feed, and using an external channel changer script

[19:33:38]

wagnerrp:

but IIRC theres some issue with that

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Shadow__X:

yeah it does work and the analog side works in linux but doesnt use ivtv so myth doesnt know how to use the tuner

[19:34:19]

Shadow__X:

wagnerrp, yeah i made a script to change the channels but it didnt work too well

[19:34:29]

Shadow__X:

it works with mplayer and changing the channel

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Shadow__X:

but myth still flips out with it not being ivtv

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Nockian:

have any of you tried the ADS Tech PTV305 or PTV306?

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Nockian:

it's an analog card

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kormoc:

FYI, Amazon has a Refurb Harmony 550 remote for $5

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kormoc:

*45

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wagnerrp:

i was disappointed by the feel of the buttons on my 550

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gbee:

seeking in h.264 without a seektable seems completely broken

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thedarkone:

i have a wierd problem if i use nvidia drivers my screen goes nutz

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thedarkone:

but if i use ones ubuntu installs it fine

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laga:

then use the ones shipped with ubuntu. or use envy-ng. do not use the installer from nvidia.com as it will break your box

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thedarkone:

i did use envyng ones that what made it wacked out

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laga:

then use the ones you currently have and be happy ;)

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thedarkone:

well that a problem it won't give me res i want

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thedarkone:

1280x768

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wagnerrp:

why would you want 1280x768?

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thedarkone:

my lcd uses that res

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wagnerrp:

i mean a TV is either going to be 1280x720 or 1366x768

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wagnerrp:

a laptop is probably going to be 1280x800

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wagnerrp:

i dont know of anything that would natively run 1280x768

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gbee:

it's an odd res, but I wouldn't be suprised that there are one or two 16:9 monitors operating at that res

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wagnerrp:

except... its not 16:9

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sphery:

nothing says pixels have to be square

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gbee:

heh, sorry, mental lapse

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brianboyko:

Hi guys. I want to try something funky with a MythTV box. Would it be possible to set up a MythTV Linux server & client in the living room on an Ubuntu distribution... then access it over the LAN to watch TV from a MythTV client from a virtualized Linux desktop in Windows?

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gbee:

it's not even 16:10, so yeah, extremely unlikely resolution

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brianboyko:

So, computer A [Native Linux + MythTV Server + MythTV Client] --------> computer B [Windows + VirtualBox + Linux (Virt.) + MythTV Client]

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wagnerrp:

yes, but you wouldnt want to

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brianboyko:

Why not, Wagner?

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wagnerrp:

the video performance of a virtualized linux machine would be abysmal

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wagnerrp:

better to just use UPnP (if youre running vista) or mythrename.pl and a samba share otherwise

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brianboyko:

Got a link as to how to set that up?

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wagnerrp:

if you want, you can try your hand at compiling mythfrontend under windows, but dont get your hopes up

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wagnerrp:

if you have vista, mythtv will 'just work' with windows media player

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wagnerrp:

there are a handful of other windows apps that work with upnp, ive used the Nero player before

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wagnerrp:

otherwise, just search the wiki for mythrename.pl

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wagnerrp:

set it up to run once every half hour on a cronjob

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wagnerrp:

and then share the folder

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bulle:

or use mythweb if you want to have nice thumbnails and stuff

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wagnerrp:

seems theres some conflict over whether WXGA is 1280x768 or 1280x800

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thedarkone:

well i got a 2nd problem now

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wagnerrp:

similarly whether WVGA is 800x480 or 854x480

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thedarkone:

every time i start my frontend ask for database info

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brianboyko:

What about using andLinux?

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wagnerrp:

andLinux?

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brianboyko:

ahn, nevermind.

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wagnerrp:

ive heard of coLinux before...

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wagnerrp:

seems to be much the same thing...

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wagnerrp:

same intent anyway

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wagnerrp:

oh, it runs off coLinux

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wagnerrp:

anyway, i think the problem with coLinux was that video playback would be wholly unaccelerated

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wagnerrp:

meaning all video scaling and such would be done in software

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wagnerrp:

using the X11 blitter

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gbee:

really curious to know the state of the windows port, after some intial flurry I've heard little since, hardly gets any mention – I know it compiles and more or less works, but so few people seem to run it

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gbee:

guess most windows users don't really want to be compiling things from scratch, we'd need to provide a binary

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bulle:

most linux users dont want to compile either =)

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gbee:

well exactly, but I think more are willing to try

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wagnerrp:

more that you are basically building an entire linux system, dependencies and all, from scratch on your windows machine

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gbee:

hmm, some obvious deps but assuming that's true, I can't really see why it would be the case

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gbee:

meh, maybe I'm not as interested as I thought I was, who uses Windows anyway?

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wagnerrp:

i tried it some time last year

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wagnerrp:

but for some reason i was against installing activeperl

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wagnerrp:

and failed miserably trying to install manually

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thedarkone:

now here a good question how would one get mce remote in mythtv to get a cable box go left instead of mythtv ffw

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kormoc:

thedarkone, that makes no sense with a typical setup

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thedarkone:

yeah i know

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thedarkone:

well i wanted to use mce remote to work cable box

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kormoc:

it doesn't really work that way

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kormoc:

neather device is programmable

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thedarkone:

i see

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thedarkone:

then i just better to use firewire

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thedarkone:

port

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thedarkone:

then lirc

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kormoc:

there's a difference between the remote and the blaster

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wagnerrp:

oof... my internet upload is too slow for FLAC

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thedarkone:

so kormoc i would need cable box next to tv?

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thedarkone:

for control

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kormoc:

thedarkone, erm... next to the mythbox yes, but that's not always next to a tv

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wagnerrp:

well this is somewhat odd

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wagnerrp:

a dual-dual Xeon is faster at tarring over NFS, than an identical machine that actually holds the (hardware) RAID array

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thedarkone:

well kormoc i am tring to do comcast on demand

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Shadow__X:

hmm very odd

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akaPrince:

peeps, i need your skillz & brains... http://rafb.net/p/raVaYQ58.html

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** akaPrince is a little surprised at how hard it is to get the ir remote going. 10x harder than building the hardware, installing the os, and installing myth **

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iamlindoro:

So UK folks, how did Dr Whoah look in Aytch Dee?

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akaPrince:

hehe Aytch Dee

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akaPrince:

took me 3s to figgur

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wagnerrp:

seems AT&T upped the ante to $250K

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Mike909:

If I want to map a remote button to execute a specific command, do I edit "/home/user/.lirc/mythtv" or do I edit "/home/user/.mythtv/lircrc" ?

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wagnerrp:

~/.mythtv/lircrc

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Shadow__X:

i hate download caps

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wagnerrp:

although usually people have that linked into ~/.lircrc, so that they can use one file for multiple programs

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Mike909:

thanks wagner: any idea what is the purpose of the ~/.lirc/mythtv file?

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Mike909:

hmm...let me think about that.

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wagnerrp:

dont know, i dont have one of those

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akaPrince:

wagnerrp: any idea about http://rafb.net/p/raVaYQ58.html

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akaPrince:

.lirc is normally a local override

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wagnerrp:

akaPrince: ive made it a point to only buy receivers with pre-programmed drivers

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wagnerrp:

never used irrecord

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Mike909:

and how would I tell if ~/.mythtv/lircrc was in face "linked" to ~/.lirc/mythtv?

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wagnerrp:

ls -l

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Mike909:

it would show a "->" symbol...like a symlink?

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wagnerrp:

thats what i mean by linked

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Mike909:

ls -l gives me:

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Mike909:

-rw-r--r-- 1 mike mike 2811 2009-04–11 14:59 lircrc

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akaPrince:

it's not necessarily linked – it could be that lirc looks in .lirc first, then elsewhere

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wagnerrp:

although you could just as easily hardlink the two

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Mike909:

so I guess it's not linked.

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wagnerrp:

hardlinking can only be confirmed by checking the inodes

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akaPrince:

in principle, if i do an irrecord <testfile>, copy <testfile> to lircd.conf, and reload lircd, i should see the learned buttons with irw, right?

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Mike909:

how would I check the inode? Keep in mind, this is somewhat at it's default setting, running mythbunt 8.10.

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akaPrince:

< akaPrince> .lirc is normally a local override

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akaPrince:

rm /etc/lircd.conf

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akaPrince:

meh

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Mike909:

so, I guess I should edit both files, just to be safe?

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Mike909:

still a bit unsure how to tell which file, (or if both) is being used to map buttons to commands.

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akaPrince:

wagnerrp: i thought that the MCE remotes with USB receivers were well supported

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gbee:

iamlindoro: been thinking about metadata grabbing and preserving existing info, if I export something from Watch Recordings then I'll want fanart etc, but I'd prefer to keep the text I've got

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gbee:

don't suppose you have a thought on that?

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iamlindoro:

gbee, The export does that

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Mike909:

akaPrince: which ver. of MCE remote are you using? Ive got the Phillips ver.2 working good...but can't get the accompanying keyboard to work (with mce_mod_usb).

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iamlindoro:

assuming the image hunt succeeded and it displays fanart/banner/cover, those will be assigned to the exported recording

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gbee:

oh cool, so it keeps the existing text and just fetches artwork?

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** gbee hugs iamlindoro **

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akaPrince:

Mike909: the back of the remote says RRS9002–86xxf

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iamlindoro:

gbee, well, there would need to be existing artwork that matches the PBB requirements

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iamlindoro:

eliminating the need for running the grabber at all

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akaPrince:

it uses the media center rc6

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akaPrince:

protocol

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iamlindoro:

gbee, ie if you have "Doctor Who.jpg" in your fanart dir, and export Doctor Who, it will pick that up and use it

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Mike909:

mine sais" model 1039

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Mike909:

it's third from the left, on this page: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MCE_Remote#MCE_Keyboard

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iamlindoro:

gbee, Regarding running the grabber to get just the artwork, no, I haven't given it much though

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iamlindoro:

thought

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gbee:

iamlindoro: well we'll see, I've a series of The Wire I want to export, but I suspect the current descriptions are better than anything I'll get from tvdb

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iamlindoro:

gbee, In that case I would suggest picking some fanart and saving/naming to match the PBB requirements before the export, and it should pick them up automagically

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iamlindoro:

"The Wire.jpg" or "The Wire Season 1.jpg" or "The Wire s01e01.jpg" or "The Wire 1x01.jpg", all will be eligible

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Mike909:

if I make a change to .mythtv/lircrc and I want that to go into effect, do I just do a "/etc/init.d/lirc restart" ?

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akaPrince:

Mike909: i think so

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akaPrince:

but not there yet

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akaPrince:

one step behind ya...

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iamlindoro:

gbee, Note that the export patch doesn't use the Fanart/banner/etc. Storage Groups yet, so you'll need those dirs locally mounted as set in MythVideo

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akaPrince:

Mike909: on the wiki page, that's what i have, except my usb receiver is TSES-IR01 (made by TopSeed)

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akaPrince:

but mode2 works, and irrecord works, it's just that the output from irrecord does not work with irw

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xand:

argh mythtv you bastard :|

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iamlindoro:

xand you son of a toothless whore

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akaPrince:

mmm strange, i've deleted /etc/lircd.conf but /etc/init.d/lirc reload does not complain...

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xand:

it wont record something because it clashes... even though I cancelled the other program

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xand:

it still reckons it's there

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xand:

but it's not

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xand:

gah

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akaPrince:

Mike909: from that same wiki you sent me: You will also need to install an lircrc file (note no dot at the front of the filename in the ~/.mythtv directory so that when the frontend starts up it can see the mythtv configuration settings for your remote control buttons.

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xand:

how can I convince it that I've cancelled the other recording :(

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Mike909:

akaPrince, are you running ubuntu 8.10? I think I just ran the setup script and it worked (intrepid has out-of-thebox support)

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simcop2388:

ok i've managed to make mythfrontend think that this monitor is 4:3 (or at least its acting like it is) at some point and i can't figure out how to fix it since its now on a 16:9 1080p tv instead of an old computer monitor

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simcop2388:

where might i look for something like that?

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Mike909:

akaPrince, be warned...the accompanying keyboard will not work. there's a special project dedicated to that, but I havn't had success with it yet.

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akaPrince:

Mike909: running mythdora 10

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simcop2388:

nevermind.... found it.... i hate when that happens...

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Shadow__X:

simcop2387, check the monitor settings in linux itself

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simcop2388:

Shadow__X: it was in the appearance section next to the gui offsets+size

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Shadow__X:

ah ok

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akaPrince:

next i'm going to try lircd.conf.mceusb from http://www.lirc.org/remotes.tar.bz2

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akaPrince:

cp ./lircd.conf.mceusb /etc/lircd.conf

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akaPrince:

/etc/init.d/lirc restart

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akaPrince:

right?

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akaPrince:

Stopping infrared remote control daemon (lircd): [ OK ]

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akaPrince:

Starting infrared remote control daemon (lircd): [ OK ]

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akaPrince:

irw

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akaPrince:

meh... nothing happens

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Mike909:

ok, figured out what I had to edit. If using mythbuntu, you need to edit ~/.lirc/mythtv if you want to map custom commands to remote buttons. editing ~/.lirc/lircrc does not work

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tank-man:

Mike909, do you have a "~/.lircrc" file?

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Mike909:

i do. It points to a bunch of other files "include ~/.lirc/mythtv, mplaer, vlc" etc

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tank-man:

thats why it wasnt reading the changes in ~/.lirc/lircrc, cause it wasnt included

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wagnerrp:

simcop2387: you have to use a widescreen intended theme as well

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Mike909:

i don't hava file named "lircrc" in ~/.lirc

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Mike909:

I do have one in ~/.mythtv and yes, that's not in the list in ~/.lircrc

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akaPrince:

okay now trying http://www.koders.com/noncode/fid6D67FFD81B8B . . . 3D7AB15.aspx

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akaPrince:

[root@localhost mythtv]# /etc/init.d/lirc restart

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akaPrince:

Stopping infrared remote control daemon (lircd): [ OK ]

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akaPrince:

Starting infrared remote control daemon (lircd): [ OK ]

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akaPrince:

[root@localhost mythtv]# irw

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akaPrince:

gah

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akaPrince:

what i don't get, if i make my own .conf file using irrecord, it should work, right?

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Mike909:

ok, my custom mapping isn't working if mythfrontend is running. continuing to work on it.

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Mike909:

does lirc log to anywhere?

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akaPrince:

Mike909: can you pastebin your /etc/lircd.conf ?

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Mike909:

how do I pastebin?

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tank-man:

pastebin is like a online clipboard to paste stuff to

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tank-man:

many different sites let you do it

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akaPrince:

Mike909: http://www.rafb.net/paste/

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akaPrince:

anyone else with a working Media Center Edition black remote is welcome to past his lircd.conf

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Mike909:

ok,, i think Ive figured it out...to make it run even when mythtfrontend is running....modify ~/.lircrc to inclcude ~/.mythtv/lircrc, then add the command to ~/.mythtv/lircrc

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Mike909:

akaprince: URL: http://rafb.net/p/Ce4aub60.html

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akaPrince:

Mike909: thanks. also check man lircrcrd

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thedarkone:

what is interactive tv?

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iamlindoro:

Something you don't have as you're in the US

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thedarkone:

i see

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iamlindoro:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MHEG-5

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thedarkone:

i am still tring to figure how i can get this comcast on demand to work

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iamlindoro:

You don't.

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iamlindoro:

It doesn't work. The best you can do is manually order a movie on the cable box and do a cat /dev/video0 > somemovie.mpg

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thedarkone:

not like that i mean

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iamlindoro:

Then you don't.

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thedarkone:

controling it with lirc

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iamlindoro:

Can't. Don't.

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thedarkone:

so i don't have to keep using comcast remote

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iamlindoro:

There is no listings source for On Demand programming. The only option is doing so manually with your remote

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thedarkone:

yeah i know

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thedarkone:

but

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thedarkone:

how come lirc can not control left right up down

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thedarkone:

on channel 1

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iamlindoro:

Because myth has no means of passing anything but channel tuning to a cable box

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thedarkone:

well i see

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Mike909:

wow, also need it in .lirc/mythtv (using irexec as prog=) so you actually need the command in two places for it to work

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thedarkone:

some how i have to make a button run a script

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Mike909:

the darkone...thats exactly what I'm doing now.

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Mike909:

using an mce remote... would you like me to share what I had to do? it's not exactly straight forward.

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iamlindoro:

thedarkone, Even if you set a button to run a script, it's *still* not going to get you On Demand

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iamlindoro:

but enough of being ignored, I'm only a contributor and have been using myth for years, what the eff do I know?

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thedarkone:

well it would allow lirc remote to work

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thedarkone:

don't want for recording

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thedarkone:

i wanta say goto channel 1 and play a free music

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iamlindoro:

thedarkone, Once again, there is no means of passing the navigation stuff to On Demand menus via lirc within myth.

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thedarkone:

i should be able to goto channel 1 and then lirc takes over alows me to move left right

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thedarkone:

and so on

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tank-man:

thedarkone, you can have "modes" in lircrc and have a button to toggle each mode. (like a mode for mythtv and one for cablebox)

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** iamlindoro sighs **

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thedarkone:

how so tank-man

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tank-man:

well in the section you would have for cablebox, it would use irexec to use maybe a script to send an irblaster signal (i dont use an irblaster so im not too sure)

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thedarkone:

like if i press live-tv i can have it control cable box

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thedarkone:

i try and write a script for it

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akaPrince:

mister iamlindoro, being a aged myth user, any suggestions on why i can't even make my own lircd.conf (made with irrecord) to work?

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thedarkone:

it be a crule way but might work

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tank-man:

google maybe mythtv xmms lircrc modes to see an example

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tank-man:

and once you setup what to watch ondemand, then have mythtv record livetv

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akaPrince:

is there any chance some newfangled security policy can block the lircd socket?

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thedarkone:

tank man don't wanta record it just watch

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akaPrince:

can i do a raw connect to the lircd socket?

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akaPrince:

cat /dev/lircd

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akaPrince:

something like that?

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akaPrince:

srw-rw-rw- 1 root root 0 2009-04–11 17:58 /dev/lircd

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akaPrince:

is that a socket?

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tank-man:

akaPrince, what is the problem?

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tank-man:

rapid synopsis please

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rushfan:

Mythfrontend freezes on start-up and the console output is:

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rushfan:

QGLContext::makeCurrent(): Cannot make invalid context current.

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rushfan:

the backend seems to be functioning fine

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mib_d2hcexwi:

.

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mib_d2hcexwi:

hi

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tank-man:

... what could have been.

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wagnerrp:

rushfan: you are trying to use the OpenGL renderer, and an X-server that does not support OpenGL

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wagnerrp:

rushfan: do a '-o ThemePainter=qt'

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