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duiu: |
Is there anyway to schedule mythtv recordings from a windows box aside from installing the windows port, or doing some form of remote login to the linux machine? |
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wagnerrp: |
mythweb |
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wagnerrp: |
although i suppose you could consider pulling up a web page a form of remote login |
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duiu: |
but it's not XDMCP or VLC, so it's nice. thanks :) |
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** sphery thinks he meant VNC ** |
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i-pink: |
hii |
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i-pink: |
i get erorr |
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i-pink: |
cannot login to database |
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sphery: |
http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-6.html#ss6.2 |
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i-pink: |
some one can help me? |
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sphery: |
i-pink: see the URL above |
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i-pink: |
is not a login to remote media center. |
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** kormoc sighs ** |
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i-pink: |
<sphery> i use ubuntu |
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sphery: |
i-pink: if that doesn't help, then you probably need to find someone who uses your particular distro to help |
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sphery: |
so, you might want to try #ubuntu-mythtv |
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i-pink: |
i dont make nothing, because the URL is not talk about ubuntu |
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Gumby: |
i-pink, I suggest you actually bother to read the page posted by sphery. it has the exact info you need |
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** kormoc sighs ** |
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i-pink: |
is normal to connect to the database if i want media center on my computer? |
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sphery: |
i-pink: the people in #ubuntu-mythtv will know how MySQL (including root and mythtv DB user accounts) are configured and what steps of the normal install have been done for you already, so they would know far more than I about how to fix your problem. |
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Gumby: |
i-pink, mythtv uses a database for almost all of its settings. so yes, its normal to connect to a database |
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sphery: |
MythTV requires a database... Everything (except video, music, and images) is stored in the database |
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JEDIDIAH__: |
it's not an ubuntu problem, you just need to know how to reset the mythtv/mythconverg password. |
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JEDIDIAH__: |
learn about mysql and then promptly forget all about it. |
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i-pink: |
but i am normal woman – not computer engineering |
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JEDIDIAH__: |
A myth system is lots of little bits that are mostly not myth. |
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JEDIDIAH__: |
normal women in the corporate world connect to oracle databases all the time. |
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sphery: |
i-pink: if you want an Ubuntu-centric walkthrough of getting started with MythTV, I'm sure there are some on the Ubuntu wiki. |
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i-pink: |
i am use the computer to see movies and internet |
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JEDIDIAH__: |
the ubuntu channel gave it to her. |
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PMantis: |
Hi guys (pastebin to follow), Fringe was supposed to record last night on 31–1 (local fox OTA). About 4 minutes before it was to record, I saw line after line of "Can't find channel blah blah". Fringe apparently recorded, but then when I went to play from the frontend, "could not find file". :( |
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benklop_: |
hello |
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sphery: |
PMantis: that's normal... we tune the channel, then wait for data and write all data we get... if the card never gives us data, we have a 0-byte file (which then gets deleted) |
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benklop_: |
i'm trying to use mythwelcome and mythshutdown and such to save some energy, and i'm having some little issues. |
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benklop_: |
i've followed the guides in the wiki, and I am able to manually tell my backend to power on whenever |
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PMantis: |
sphery: A show recorded just before this on the same channel and it was fine. A show recorded just afterward on a diff channel.. |
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benklop_: |
works great as far as hardware is concerned |
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sphery: |
PMantis: not much we can do, though, when the network is broadcasting garbage at the time the show starts... happened to me once, too. Terminator: TSCC recorded but had all sorts of issues at the end, then Prison Break (on the same channel immediately after) didn't record because the station sent out garbage |
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PMantis: |
Here's my pastebin: http://pastebin.com/d3175fd5 |
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sphery: |
in my case, another myth user also using an antenna and OTA had the exact same thing happen |
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PMantis: |
sphery: Hmmm |
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sphery: |
PMantis: yeah, it means that they were sending out garbage in one of the "important ATSC" tables |
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sphery: |
NIT or whatever |
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benklop_: |
but "mythshutdown -t" gives me an error, "QTime::fromString: Parameter out of range" |
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PMantis: |
sphery: by "it means" are you referring to the data in my paste? |
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sphery: |
PMantis: yeah |
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sphery: |
Could not find channel 31_1 in TVCT |
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PMantis: |
An odd thing is... it's 31–1 in SD, and on my myth setup |
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benklop_: |
if I enable logging (most) I see this : 2009-02–11 18:56:28.666 Mythshutdown: wakeup time given is: ti56e_t |
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sphery: |
PMantis: since we stop the (already tuned-in) capture card and start again, when it tried to tune Fringe, there wasn't enough info to find it, so it did the best it could and waited (hopefully) for data, but it never came |
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benklop_: |
I can't figure out why it's trying to set the wakeup time to ti56e_t.... |
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sphery: |
on the bright side, it won't happen again for quite some time (unless your Fox affiliate is completely inept) |
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benklop_: |
I have the wakeup time format set to time_t (which is what its supposed to be..) |
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PMantis: |
sphery: I occasionally have a 0B file showing up in mythweb.. by occasionally, I'd guess 2–3 a week, on varied channels. |
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PMantis: |
sphery: What really sux is I'm into Fringe. Fortunately, we still have a DishDVR |
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PMantis: |
On a side note, I was able to change jumpers on the HD inside my DishNetwork DVR500, plug in a USB adapter, and play the recordings on Myth! :0D |
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PMantis: |
:-D |
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benklop_: |
that's pretty cool |
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benklop_: |
I assume you had to remove the HD though, |
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benklop_: |
not just made the dish dvr a networked dvr that myth can get to.. |
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PMantis: |
benklop_: No, *just* enough room to unplug and plug in cables with it still in the box. |
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benklop_: |
cool.. but still it's not a networked thing right? because that would be pretty neat too.. |
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PMantis: |
benklop_: Oh, I see what you mean... yeah, needed a physical powerdown, and connection to the mythtv box do read the HD directly. |
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PMantis: |
s/do/to |
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benklop_: |
okay, yeah. when i saw you say something about switching jumpers I got kinda excited.. |
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benklop_: |
thought they had a switch to allow you to get access to the box or something like that |
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PMantis: |
haha, jumpers on the HD.. master/slave/cable select... couldn't see the labels w/o breaking the warranty seal, so I just did it trial and error. |
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PMantis: |
benklop_: Anyway, we're really OT. :) |
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benklop_: |
yeah... I'm looking for info on an arror mythshutdown is throwing |
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benklop_: |
http://rafb.net/p/frbEKX87.html has the log |
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benklop_: |
It's saying I specified the time format as "ti56e_t" |
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benklop_: |
but I have checked, and everywhere I can see it says "time_t" |
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PMantis: |
Hmmm, That doesn't mean much to me.. |
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PMantis: |
BTW, anyone know why my myth setup uses "RecordingOnly" instead of "Recording", so I can't watch the show while it's recording? |
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benklop_: |
PMantis: not sure what you mean |
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PMantis: |
TVRec(4): Changing from None to RecordingOnly |
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sphery: |
you can always watch a recording in progress... just go to Watch Recordings |
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sphery: |
that's all internal state keeping stuff |
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sphery: |
just start it from watch recordings and it will play |
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PMantis: |
Oh sure, but if a frontend tries to tune to that channel, I would expect it to "piggyback" on the same tuner if it can... so if 3 frontends want to watch the same channel, it shouldn't lock 3 tuner cards... |
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sphery: |
benklop_: according to http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Mythwelcome#MythShutdown_program there is no -t arg to mythshutdown |
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sphery: |
benklop_: you should try with --debug |
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benklop_: |
sphery: according to mythshutdown --help there is.. |
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benklop_: |
it's supposed to set the startup time to the next recording time |
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sphery: |
ok, wiki may well be out of date (wouldn't be the first time :) |
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benklop_: |
basically, my box was not coming back up, and I am running that to check why |
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sphery: |
benklop_: yeah, there is a -t in current -fixes... |
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benklop_: |
and it's trying to use an invalid time format, even though all the configuration pages I can see have it set to "time_t" |
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benklop_: |
sphery: just checked, and it's set to "time_t" in the database |
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sphery: |
benklop_: I don't use it (as I'd rather waste power than risk a failed boot when I'm traveling), so I can't help |
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sphery: |
but, still, try runing with --debug and see if it says anything more |
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benklop_: |
ok, i will. |
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benklop_: |
think it could be a bug? |
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benklop_: |
or more likely just a settings error? |
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sphery: |
iamlindoro: actually, GreyFoxx was just waiting for me to submit #6255 so that he could change things enough to break my patch so I'd have to update it |
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iamlindoro: |
So inconsiderate |
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GreyFoxx: |
hahah |
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GreyFoxx: |
I would have done it last night but my laptop broke (just fixed it) |
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GreyFoxx: |
and today was too busy at work :) |
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iamlindoro: |
I'm really glad you went with the merged view |
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sphery: |
have you already installed it? |
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iamlindoro: |
no, not yet, just reading the log |
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sphery: |
I just booted my dev box to try to catch up with you and you were just faking... |
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iamlindoro: |
I'll be here all night resolving stuff w/ my existing patches |
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GreyFoxx: |
Sorry :) |
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iamlindoro: |
s'ok, I'll probably put it off 'til the weekend |
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iamlindoro: |
(and maybe anduin will have committed one of them by then and I will be off the hook :) ) |
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hadees: |
anyone using the Intel DG45FC? |
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sphery: |
iamlindoro: what happened to date night? |
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sphery: |
or was it a date with a myth box? |
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iamlindoro: |
It's on its way |
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sphery: |
GreyFoxx: I can see we're going to need an ability to delete SG dirs for other hosts (i.e. users will invariable /not/ delete Videos group with a host before decomissioning/changing hostnames) |
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iamlindoro: |
!trout GreyFoxx Change-all-the-same-DB-queries-as-me |
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** MythLogBot slaps GreyFoxx with a Change-all-the-same-DB-queries-as-me trout on behalf of iamlindoro... ** |
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benklop_: |
is there a websvn or something for mythtv? |
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iamlindoro: |
svn.mythtv.org |
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iamlindoro: |
Five files with major fixes to make, could have been worse |
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sphery: |
ooh... r19979... Only 21 commits to 20K |
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iamlindoro: |
I think Anduin will get it, because he's so very good looking and smart and capable and always looks at other people patches |
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sphery: |
heh |
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Anduin: |
I should have tomorrow off, really |
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GreyFoxx: |
oopd missed a couple files! |
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sphery: |
Wow... Only 2 fuzz 1's after GreyFoxx's change |
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iamlindoro: |
Anduin, S'ok, I'm amending to account for Gfxx's patches, think I can get it done before date night ;) |
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GreyFoxx: |
sphery: You I was thinking of a mythvideo popup for that specific group when when the backend is no longer around |
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benklop_: |
sphery: it looks like the bug might be fixed in svn, i'm gonig to have to update and see..http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/changeset/18321 |
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iamlindoro: |
DONE! |
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GreyFoxx: |
Or make it a choice of "remove remote group or ignore for now" |
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GreyFoxx: |
instead of the ok box |
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GreyFoxx: |
(which pops up if a scan can't reach a backend it wants to scan :) ) |
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sphery: |
One of the fuzz's puts my new function (helper for Init() that I put just below Init()) below his new functions (Captain_Murdoch can rearrange them if he wants) ... The other I can't figure out (don't see any fuzz) |
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sphery: |
GreyFoxx: that would make sense for in there... I was thinking it might be nice to have some "cleanup" capability in mythtv-setup for generic groups |
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iamlindoro: |
GreyFoxx, Think you have a build failure here |
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sphery: |
(though they don't "hurt" anything in other places, they do add to the list of dirs to try--therefore slowing things--when we fallback) |
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GreyFoxx: |
iamlindoro: Update again |
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GreyFoxx: |
I missed 2 files in my first commit |
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iamlindoro: |
heh :) |
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iamlindoro: |
Them's the ones |
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GreyFoxx: |
I forgot to svn add them :) |
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sphery: |
iamlindoro: always check with /current/ trunk before reporting bugs... sheesh! |
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** iamlindoro hangs his head in shame ** |
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GreyFoxx: |
hah |
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sphery: |
now you owe us 2 extra patches |
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iamlindoro: |
I'll just not report bugs from now on like the cool kids |
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sphery: |
iamlindoro: can you blame them for not wanting to go on record providing a clip from a stolen video? |
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iamlindoro: |
Fifth amendment and all that |
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GreyFoxx: |
They coud privide a 20 meg dd from the start of one |
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GreyFoxx: |
And just rename it |
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GreyFoxx: |
heh |
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sphery: |
but then when you do a bitwise comparison with the offending file, it would show up like Unix code in an SCO search of Linux source... |
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SuiDog: |
Hey there.. Should I see a dmesg saying loading firmware for my win-tv 500 mce card? I see it initialize everything else but I don't see it loading the firmware. I'm just wondering if in 8.10 it does it differently.. everything I see (older versions) says I should see it. |
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wagnerrp: |
yes, dmesg should report loaded firmware |
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wagnerrp: |
or it should report failed loading |
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wagnerrp: |
either way, it should report something |
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SuiDog: |
it didn't say either |
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SuiDog: |
thats whats strange... now I had another card in there before and I notice that I didn't get the message one way or another unless I had the firmware in the dir. |
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SuiDog: |
and that what was strange |
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SuiDog: |
I looked at downloading the firmware package from ivtv website.. I already have them and it looks like the verison that came with 8.10 are newer than whats on the website.. if I go by file dates |
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wagnerrp: |
i just use the ones my package manager gives me |
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SuiDog: |
did you do 8.10 or another version.. |
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wagnerrp: |
i dont use ubuntu |
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SuiDog: |
I looked in the package manager and I only saw like source and utils |
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pigeon: |
anyone used mythtv with asian languages (chinese) before? the osd showing those glyphs as boxes only, but then the mythtv gui (tv guide for example) shows them properly. |
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sphery: |
PMantis: good news... Since the episode of Fringe that didn't record for you was the last one until April, Fox is almost guaranteed to rerun it before they start the April episodes (which start a run of 7 in a row) |
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PMantis: |
hah |
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PMantis: |
sphery: I watched it on the Dish DVR, but that's not connected to my new wall mounted widescreen LCD TV and Myth |
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PMantis: |
Myth rocks, but it ticked me off that it didn't record. |
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PMantis: |
Maybe I'll write a little script to monitor the log, and let me know if something is awry |
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sphery: |
if you were using anything other than myth to record from the OTA feed, it probably wouldn't have recorded either |
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sphery: |
so blame your local fox station |
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wagnerrp: |
what happened that it didnt record? |
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wagnerrp: |
time change? |
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sphery: |
broken broadcast |
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wagnerrp: |
cableco switch PIDs on their broadcast? |
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wagnerrp: |
err... station |
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sphery: |
http://pastebin.com/d3175fd5 |
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sphery: |
broken tables |
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wagnerrp: |
i missed the first part of the superbowl because NBC moved from 27 to 93 |
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jamesd: |
wagnerrp, what you didn't catch that error in the 6 hours of pre-game show they showed |
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