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deadlyninja:

i want to use a low powered machine for a frontend, is there any way to make the backend downsample the video in real time before sending it to the frontend

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kormoc:

no

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directhex:

myth has no on-access transcoder.

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deadlyninja:

i saw a video of tinymce doing that for little handheld devices and phones and whatnot, i also saw that tinymce integrates with mythtv. can i use tinymce in conjunction with mythtv to get an 'on-access transcoder'?

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kormoc:

I've never heard of tinymce intigrating with mythtv

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deadlyninja:

sorry, not tinymce, but linuxmce

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kormoc:

linux mce uses myth, but only for certain things, so it's unlikely you can use that part of linuxmce without the rest

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J-e-f-f-A:

Humm... why is a CD Rip trying to access each of my HDD's exclusively?

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J-e-f-f-A:

Strange... was permissions – curious as to why it didn't generate an error, but oh well...

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J-e-f-f-A:

(er, an error on the frontend that is, instead of just to the log.)

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J-e-f-f-A:

Actually, seems like it may be a bug... attemps to open /dev/sr0 'esclusively', then says will retry in 1 second. But in 1 second it starts trying '/dev/sg*', where it's 0-f ..

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J-e-f-f-A:

Humm... tries /dev/sr0 for 1 second, then sg0 for 10 seconds, sga for 10 seconds, then alternates to "sg2" and "sgb", in a loop until I break out of the frontend... I let it run for a while and it got up to sgm and sg13 ... strange.

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RyeBrye_:

Hm. I just noticed this line in my mythburn log... Stream #0.0[0x1e0]: Video: mpeg2video, yuv420p, 1920x1080 [PAR 1:1 DAR 16:9], 65000 kb/s, 59.94 tb(r)

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RyeBrye_:

is 1080i video yuv420p?

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RyeBrye_:

shouldn't that be yuv1080i?

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GreyFoxx:

heh no :)

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GreyFoxx:

that\s just how the frame layers are layed out

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RyeBrye_:

oh, ok

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GreyFoxx:

nothing to do with resolution/interlacing

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RyeBrye_:

just curious

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RyeBrye_:

I didn't think it was the end of the world or anything...

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larzen:

Is there any way to check when mythtv channel update last ran?

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larzen:

mythfilldatabase that is...

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larzen:

i am wondering how to check when it last ran

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GreyFoxx:

the status screen will show it

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J-e-f-f-A:

larzen: pull up a web browser and go to http://localhost:6544

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GreyFoxx:

or mythweb's status screen

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J-e-f-f-A:

^^ yep. ;-)

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J-e-f-f-A:

larzen: it's on the bottom of the screen — "Last mythfilldatabase run started on xxx and ended on xxx" "There is guid data until xxx"

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larzen:

yep :) i didnt know about that little trick

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larzen:

thanks folks... I guess my cron job doesnt work

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GreyFoxx:

I let mythbackend run it for me :)

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** J-e-f-f-A does too...;-) **

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larzen:

GreyFoxx – how do I set that?

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GreyFoxx:

can't remember if it's a frontend setup menu setting or mythtv-setup

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larzen:

mine last on Dec 11 ;)

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larzen:

mine last ran i meant

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J-e-f-f-A:

larzen: mythfrontend -> setup -> Setup -> General -> 7th page – "Mythfilldatabase"

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larzen:

J-e-f-f-A – perfect ;) thank you!

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J-e-f-f-A:

larzen: I think the issue I had with it not running automatically is that my path to mythfilldatabase was not correct and/or fully qualified... but it's been a year or two since I fixed it... ;-)

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J-e-f-f-A:

perhaps OT, but what the heck are the /dev/sg[0–9] devices? They seem to be related to the different of the /dev/sd[a-h] physical devices... and the CD Ripper seems to be trying to access them...

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J-e-f-f-A:

nvm – "SCSI generic" devices... still don't understand why the cd ripper is trying to access them... when it knows the CD drive is /dev/sr0 ...

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J-e-f-f-A:

Humm... changing the device to /dev/scd0 (which is just a symlink to /dev/sr0 anyways) seems to be working ... so far...

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kb1ibt:

what is the easiest way to setup a slave backend on a laptop (running MacOS) since it has more horsepower than my master backend

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iamlindoro__:

Hmmm, okay, think I can basically document how the heck to get DVB-S working. Just got some fairly broken but working Chinese TV.

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J-e-f-f-A:

kb1ibt: don't count on it... I don't think the backend has been [successfully] ported to OSX yet...

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kb1ibt:

J-e-f-f-A: there are binaries from http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Myth_on_Mac_OS_X but it doesn't help with setting up the slave

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J-e-f-f-A:

kb1ibt: The only tuner that works from it is the HDHomeRun or some firewire STBs...

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kb1ibt:

J-e-f-f-A: I don't need the mac to act as a recorder just as a transcoder. i already have a mythbuntu box setup as the recorder

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J-e-f-f-A:

kb1ibt: Then I don't see how it would be different than setting up a slave backend on another Linux box. ie: Install Mythtv, Configure, Run...

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kb1ibt:

that's the problem the configuring and controlling the slave, i've been searching both the wiki and google and can't find a good guide on how to get it working

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J-e-f-f-A:

kb1ibt: IIRC, I don't think it

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J-e-f-f-A:

kb1ibt: ... it's all that complicated – I setup a slave once, and IIRC, all I had to do was set the master backend IP in mythtv-setup, and my local backend IP...

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J-e-f-f-A:

kb1ibt: with the possible exception of having to set some mysql permissions.

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shep_:

man – the mythweb statistics page is kinda cool

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shep-home:

First recording: Sunday January 11th, 2004

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shep-home:

coming up on 5 years

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Computer_Czar:

I need to get Mythweb running

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larzen:

Folks.. in mythweb...when I click on "Don't record" a certain show.. it appears in a red border in the recording schedules..

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larzen:

is there any way to completely remove those?

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larzen:

even after I cancel the schedule of the "series" those options are still present

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xris:

larzen: "don't" is an override schedule

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xris:

if you delete the original schedule, you can just click on the red-box one and "schedule normally" to dlete the override

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larzen:

ah ;)

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larzen:

thank you!

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EnderTheThird_:

anyone have any suggestions for a database to keep track of my movies and games?

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RyeBrye_:

mysql?

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RyeBrye_:

what do you mean "keep track of"?

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RyeBrye_:

like the files or the physical media? if you have a mac – delicious library is really good

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EnderTheThird_:

something that uses something like imdb to look up everything for me would be nice

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EnderTheThird_:

just Linux for me (Ubuntu 8.10). I'd like to keep track of what I own and when friends borrow movies

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EnderTheThird_:

any suggestions?

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RyeBrye_:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/ays/index.html?ie=U . . . entries%2A=0

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RyeBrye_:

online

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EnderTheThird_:

works for me. thanks

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exit

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kaktuspalme:

hi all

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kaktuspalme:

is bluray playing support in development?

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bestis:

tried to find info why can't get files when recording, but everything seems ok, but no file is generated at storage. http://pastebin.com/d59d01d09 tested recording with czap+dd and it works a-ok. Log only says http://pastebin.com/d59d01d09

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bestis:

. http://pastebin.com/m6951035e – with most verbose.. it thinks that the channel is encrypted but it isn't? :)

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david___:

My MBE seems to be crashing 6 or so times a day at the moment – each time with a "malloc(): memory corruption" – can anyone provide some pointers?

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dbaldaro:

anyone there?

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dbaldaro:

Anyone awake – and can provide some help?

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dustybin:

when i ffmpeg a vob file im getting a load of errors on some of my dvds:

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dustybin:

[svcd @ 0xb7f3a680]buffer underflow i=1 bufi=2248 size=3840

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dustybin:

[svcd @ 0xb7f3a680]packet too large, ignoring buffer limits to mux it

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jduggan:

dood, do you work?

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dustybin:

[NULL @ 0xb7c64430]error, non monotone timestamps 23733360 >= 23733360

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jduggan:

:P

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dustybin:

no i dont work

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flynch:

any DVB users out there that I can bounce a quick question off?

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dbaldaro:

My backend is constantly crashing with "malloc(): memory corruption" errors in /var/log/mythtv – any ideas?

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dbaldaro:

flynch – I have a DVB card in.

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test1:

hello

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flynch:

dbaldaro: Cheers, I'm trying to get a hauppage NOVA-T card going here.

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flynch:

found channels with (w_scan -F -t 3 -X) but can't get tzap to lock on... it constantly reports a snr of 0000

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flynch:

I'm wondering if I should be using a powered antenna, I'm just using the stock ariel that shipped with the hauppage device.

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flynch:

does that make sense? Do you think that a powered ariel would probably help?

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dbaldaro:

I have always found that DVB only works with fixed antennas not the naff ones that you get with the cards

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dbaldaro:

flynch: you in the UK?

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flynch:

dbaldaro: I'm in Ireland (just outside of Dublin).

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dbaldaro:

you will not get a decent reception unless you are sat under the main transmitter in your area!

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flynch:

we have a DVB test underway here at three rock where they allegedly have a 50 killo watt transmitter

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dbaldaro:

Flynch: I have my DVB plugged into the house antenna – works a treat.

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dbaldaro:

If I coudl just stop my backend from crashing 6 times a day, I would be happier!

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flynch:

ok, I'm going to go out and but an amplified indoor ariel... not quite at the stage where I'm willing to climb up onto the root to install an ariel

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flynch:

yikes 6 times a day is alot....

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flynch:

I ran mythtv in boston for 4 years and found the backend to be very stable (but I was recording over firewire)

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dbaldaro:

yeah – not great, only starting happening recently – not what I need over Christmas!

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flynch:

no, that wouldn't go over well with the wife / family

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dbaldaro:

up to recently it was stable as a rock – not sure what changed – other than upgrading to ubuntu 8.10

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jduggan:

dustybin: how do you afford to run myth? i struggle and work fulltime ;p save like crazy for a new frontend :|

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dustybin:

jduggan: i have savings

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dustybin:

and i take money off the government

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dustybin:

(without feeling guilty one bit)

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jduggan:

is there a medical reason? or just cba'd?

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** directhex corrects dustybin **

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directhex:

you don't take money from the government.

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jduggan:

yea

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jduggan:

take from US

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jduggan:

:\

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directhex:

"take from TAXPAYERS" is the correct phraseology

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dustybin:

yeah the problems called there isnt any jobs around

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GreyFoxx:

No McDonalds in your area? No places needing Janitorial staff? No ditch digging? No snow removal? No ( 8 billion other manual labour jobs)?

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GreyFoxx:

OR do you mean "No jobs that give me lot sof money for little to no work or responsibility there for I don't want them"

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GreyFoxx:

If your area is that starved for work that you can get or create on yor own then it might be time to look elsewhere

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dustybin:

jeeze why am i not allowed to work? ive worked all my life

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dustybin:

in january im going to study the A+ then the NETWORK+

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GreyFoxx:

You 90 or something ?

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dustybin:

32

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dustybin:

i will use my spare time studying in january

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dustybin:

think as me as a student

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dustybin:

i might also do the SERVER+ / SECURITY+ / LINUX+

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dustybin:

then after those exams, do some basic MS exams

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dustybin:

then APPLE ACSA, and BSD BSDA

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GreyFoxx:

"use my spare time" ?\

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GreyFoxx:

Isn't all your time spare time ?

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jduggan:

heh

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dustybin:

yes

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GreyFoxx:

Then why can't you work and educate yourself unless you will be in afulltime program?

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dustybin:

then hopefully, i might be able to get a job on the helpdesk

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jduggan:

hmm, where you livin dustybin?

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dustybin:

there are no jobs about at all, my local job centre is over crowded with people, the internet gives no response, my local supermarket have no vacancies

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dustybin:

i been sending my CV out to LOTS of places the last few months

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dustybin:

i had 1 interview, but because it was so far away, i didnt get the job

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dustybin:

jduggan: London / UK

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dustybin:

need to reboot, my log is filled with this: [91713.765377] mt2060 I2C read failed

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jduggan:

wtf

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jduggan:

(11:47) < dustybin> yeah the problems called there isnt any jobs around ??????? IN LONDON????

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jduggan:

it's like the IT hub of the UK

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jduggan:

there are helpdesk jobs everywhere

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dustybin:

i been a apple mac artworker for 12 years, so this is a career change for me

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dustybin:

i dont have that experience

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** dustybin reboots **

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dustybin:

actually, i might as well re-compile v4l first

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jduggan:

you have computer experience? linux experience? willing to learn? helpdesk jobs dont need a big CV

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dustybin:

as soon as i pass the A+ and NETWORK+ i should be able to walk straight into one of those jobs

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directhex:

i'd like a change of scenery, but not in this job climate

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jduggan:

same

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jduggan:

i'd like to move home, but there's literally no jobs in my field in wet wales

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jduggan:

not without a commute ;D

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jduggan:

sometimes you have to move away for a job.. ;]

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directhex:

i'm on a great commuter hub, but i don't think now is the time to pack in a 100% secure, 31kpa job

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jduggan:

not at all

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jduggan:

im on a good commuter hub

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jduggan:

right on the M1

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jduggan:

i started lookin for a new job about 9months ago... i've given up for atleast 12months, see how things stabalise :P

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jduggan:

secure job, good pay, its actually a good job, i've just progressed as far as i can within the company

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dustybin:

you might live close to justinh if your on the M1 o_0

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jduggan:

he's in manchester

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jduggan:

i'm down in northampton

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jduggan:

&& milton keynes

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jduggan:

live in northampton, i work in both northampton and MK

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jduggan:

(we have two facilities)

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dustybin:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7787280.stm

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dustybin:

"hese people are not scroungers. They are blameless victims of a worldwide economic downturn and deserve to be treated as such"

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dustybin:

*These

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Webspot:

Hi. I'm trying to set up two backends. The master backend is in charge of everything, and then the slave backend has the TV tuner in. When I try to run both backends, the slave gets an error message saying: "writeStringList: Error, invalid string list". Log of slave: http://pastebin.com/m388db5b3 – Log of master: http://pastebin.com/d7ce8ffbb – Could anyone give me and idea of where I am going wrong?

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si-p:

hello, i'm having problems getting channel names and the program guide setup and populated.

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si-p:

i believe i should be able to get program listing transmitted (dvb-t card)

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si-p:

it looks like i'm picking up channels

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si-p:

running the channel scanner in mythtv-setup lists a load of channels that show a picture when selected

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si-p:

but all the channels are "Unnamed"

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si-p:

i've tried to use xmltv also, but no success there either

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si-p:

looks like tv_find_grabbers times out if run from within mythtv-setup – running it manually from the shell produces output and appears to complete successfully.

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si-p:

i'm sure i've had it working better than this before

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si-p:

it used to pickup the program guide and channel names from the tranmitted signal

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si-p:

has anyone got any suggestions?

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test1:

si-p: can u run mythfilldatabase --manual ?

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si-p:

test1: i can but it doesn't do much – it complets in a matter of seconds

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si-p:

test1: i'll try again now

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test1:

does it says that config file is empty?

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test1:

name.xmltv is empty ..please delete ....

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test1:

or does it says name.xmltv doesn't exist ..

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test1:

si-p: ?

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si-p:

test1: there's no mention of xmltv in the output

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si-p:

i ran mythfilldatabase --manual | grep xmltv

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test1:

mine says "XMLTV config file is: /home/test1/.mythtv/source_video.xmltv

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si-p:

test1: i think it's because at the moment it's setup to get the program guide from the transmitted signal

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si-p:

test1: and if mythtv-setup i cant select a xmltv grabber

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si-p:

test1: because it times out or doesn't complete (according to the output message)

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test1:

what is your grab?

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test1:

tv_grab_XX

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si-p:

i think it would be tv_grab_uk_rt

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test1:

tv_grab_XX --configure --offset 7 --days 0

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test1:

then u put this tv_grab .conf in .mythtv folder (of your user)

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si-p:

test1: this sounds good, let me try that

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test1:

(the tv grab might be in good place, or in .xmltv, then u check you have the good xmltv id in each channel (in myth setup) or pressing E when viewing the channel

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test1:

xmltv id must be the one of Your grabber

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si-p:

test1: ok, i've moved the conf file into .mythtv

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si-p:

test1: should i be able to select this in input sources in mythtv-setup now?

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test1:

run your grab without option and read what are the xmltv id >put the same in xmltv id of myth set up

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test1:

tv_grab_uk_rt [enter] in konsole

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test1:

read the ids

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si-p:

test1: ok its retrieving listings now

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si-p:

test1: it reckons about 10 mins to do that

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test1:

read ids

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test1:

put the same in myth setup (in channels)

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si-p:

test1: what do you mean? will it display ids at the end?

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test1:

no

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test1:

si-p: in Konsole u can change options of "historic" to put it in no limit. then if u run tv_grab_uk_rt , u let it finish , then u scroll up and u can read xmltv channel id

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test1:

theese ids must be exactly the same in myth (myth set up/channels)

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test1:

when graber is in good place and id are correct, u can run mythfilldatabase --manual

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test1:

(got to go) if still not working you can try this :

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si-p:

test1: will i have to enter the channel ids manually in mythtv-setup?

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test1:

configure the grab with 'offset 1', and only the BBC to see if it works better

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test1:

yes manually

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test1:

if still not working

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test1:

find an other grab for uk programs :)

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si-p:

ok, i'll give it a go

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si-p:

test1: thanks for your help

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test1:

yw

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test1:

gml

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test1:

gl*

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si-p:

test1: cheers

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test1:

(back in 3 hours ;) lol

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octavsly:

Question

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gbee:

Answer

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octavsly:

I can watch encrypted channels but cannot watch FTA

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octavsly:

Thank gbee :-)

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octavsly:

kaffeine can watch both of them.

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octavsly:

Any clues? Is there anythink I can tweak?

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octavsly:

I have a DVB-T (1500) from Technotrend with CI, Connax CAM and smartcards

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octavsly:

Using Mythtv mythtv-0.21_p18314 (under Gentoo)

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** jamiem wants a silent PC with at least 2 PCI slots for my Hauppauges **

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** jamiem didn't realise that onboard decoding used no CPU :/ **

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octavsly:

what do you have in mind?

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octavsly:

jamiem?

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jamiem:

nothing.

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jamiem:

(in more ways than one :S)

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jamiem:

some form of ITX probably if/when funds allow. I've heard of problems with PCI riser cards though

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octavsly:

what problems?

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jamiem:

not that there aren't ITX boards with more PCI slots, but I've yet to find a reasonably priced fanless option

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jamiem:

octavsly: speed problems, I guess. Dunno.

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octavsly:

correct

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octavsly:

I have been using VIA for some time (C7)

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octavsly:

EPIA12000EG

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octavsly:

fanless

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jamiem:

hmm

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octavsly:

depends what you want to do with it

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jamiem:

I have an 800 version of similar board. It lacks 686 instructions

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jamiem:

anyway that's my mail/dns/dhcp/etc server

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octavsly:

I hava P150MHz for that (used to ba a 90)

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octavsly:

:D

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jamiem:

congrats on the upgrade ;)

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jamiem:

had you stayed with the P90 you could have air-cooled it

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octavsly:

not really. Was quite worm

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octavsly:

This 150 is warm too

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octavsly:

Question: I can watch encrypted channels but cannot watch FTA. Somebody has the same experience?

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jamiem:

Freeview here

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gbee:

all my channels are FTA, no experience of using a CAM/CI

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octavsly:

Unfortuntelly I have to since in The Netherlands all digital content is encryted :-(

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octavsly:

Digital Tv via cable is encrypted, terestrial also, sattelite same story

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si-p:

how do you import channels.conf using mythtv-setup?

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BlackDark:

morning

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BlackDark:

question about mythvideo : since I've activated the digital sound output (aka spdif), with some video files, I don't have sound anymore

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BlackDark:

is that a known problem with mythvideo ?

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BlackDark:

btw I run mythtv 0.20.* on my box

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directhex:

god knows. most of us run myth from 2008

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gbee:

vs 2006

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BlackDark:

for instance, that file RIFF (little-endian) data, AVI, 512 x 304, 23.98 fps, video: DivX 5, audio: MPEG-1 Layer 3 (stereo, 44100 Hz) have no sound

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gbee:

BlackDark: it's probably a freq issue, 41Khz vs 44Khz or something

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BlackDark:

ok and what is the workaround ?

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gbee:

not a subject I really know anything about

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gbee:

might require alsa config changes, using plug software upconverting etc

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gbee:

really don't know

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si-p:

should there be an option in mythtv-setup to import channels.conf? i can't find it

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gbee:

I suggest you wait around until someone who actually knows what they are talking about is around

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GreyFoxx:

ugh..... I updated myth this morning, and of course had to backout myth watch recordings patch..... I feel like I'm back in the 90's or something now hehe

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GreyFoxx:

gbee: Do you know how to rebuild the .qm files when you update the .ts translation files ?

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gbee:

lrelease something.pro

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sphery:

BlackDark: gbee is exactly right--it's the sound format. http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Configuring_Digital_Sound for a start. There's a lot of incorrect info on the page, but the actual config file at http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Configur . . . .2C_Properly will work if you use digital or mixed-digital for the default output.

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dustybin:

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/6631/trainingnewzq0.jpg

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GreyFoxx:

gbee: Cool, thanks

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gbee:

I was right? well once a year ain't too bad

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jamiem:

gbee: Merry Christmas

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BlackDark:

sphery: thanks !!

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dustybin:

"...you might as well skip the Xmas celebration completely, and instead sit in front of your linux computer playing with the all-new-and-improved linux kernel version." – Linus Torvalds

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gbee:

pass

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quicksilver:

that was last year though

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squish102:

dustybin which one was he referring to?

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dustybin:

squish102: i dont know, got it from here: http://www.sreejithemk.net/index.php/2008/09/linux-qoutes/

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jarle:

si-p: you still need help importing channels.conf?

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si-p:

jarle: please

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si-p:

jarle: i dont know whether that's what i need to do to get my channels sorted

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si-p:

jarle: i thought i could get the channel info transmitted with the signal, but i'm having problems with that

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jarle:

si-p: what kind of input?

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si-p:

jarle: dvb-t, is that what you mean?

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jarle:

si-p: you do have a channels.conf made already?

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jarle:

si-p: so you have set up your input card in mythtv-setup and then scanning for channels in mythtv-setup should do the trick...

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si-p:

jarle: yes i have a channels.conf although I'm not sure where that file came from

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si-p:

jarle: i was trying to get this sorted yesterday and channels.conf has yesterdays date

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si-p:

jarle: where should channels.conf be located?

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jarle:

si-p: channels.conf is supposed to be a list of channels that *you* can get, that you have med yourself by scanning using the dvb-utils

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jarle:

you should probably try to let mythtv-setup do the scanning instead

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jarle:

si-p: have you tried using the channel scanner in mythtv-setup?

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si-p:

jarle: yes

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si-p:

jarle: it runs and all the channels are given the name "Unnamed"

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si-p:

jarle: i can use the channel numbers assigned in mythtv and a picture displays on some of them

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si-p:

jarle: i have a channels.conf in the home dir of the mythtv user, should it be copied into /home/mythtv/.mythtv?

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porcodildo:

hey

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porcodildo:

the movies information in mythvideo are stored in the database?

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GreyFoxx:

yes

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porcodildo:

like thumbnails, imsb infos

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GreyFoxx:

thumbnails are not

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porcodildo:

:(

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porcodildo:

ok

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GreyFoxx:

just the info

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porcodildo:

also the filename?

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GreyFoxx:

of the video and the coverfile/thumbnail

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GreyFoxx:

though soon the filename will be store in 2 parts, . Currently it's a full path to the file but soon it will be the path and filename seperate

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gbee:

yay

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jarle:

si-p: then you could try installing dvb-utils and create your own channels.conf (something like this: http://hausheer.osola.com/docs/33), and then import channels.conf using the import channels.conf dropdownmenu in the channels scanner of mythtv-setup

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GreyFoxx:

<<-- Literally doing that right now

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GreyFoxx:

It's xmas, but better time to goof off at work

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porcodildo:

uhm

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** iamlindoro__ cracks the whip at GreyFoxx **

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porcodildo:

i would like to crypt the media partition

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BlackDark:

sphery: the problem is, my card refuses to output anything but 48000hz

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BlackDark:

so my problem is there

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iamlindoro__:

crypt it? What'd it even do to you that you want to put it in a tomb?

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iamlindoro__:

Sheesh, I'd rather just encrypt it myself

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si-p:

jarle: ok, could you please be a bit more specific about where in the interface i import the file?

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si-p:

jarle: in mythtv-setup i go into Channel Editor, but i dont see an option in there to import

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si-p:

jarle: if i go into Channel Scanner and dont see it in there either,

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sphery:

BlackDark: translated, "The problem is, my card [is a standard PC sound card based on the Intel standards]"

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BlackDark:

isn't alsa supposed to upscale to 48000hz ?

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sphery:

BlackDark: a long time ago, when CPU's were so powerful compared to software that people had no need to buy more expensive/faster processors, Intel came up with the idea of putting all sound processing on the CPU.

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BlackDark:

ok

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sphery:

BlackDark: And, now--because Intel is making chipsets--they've begun work on a new sound standard that removes audio processing from the CPU and uses a discrete signal processor to avoid all the interrupts, which will save about 4–6W of power usage

[15:15:29]

sphery:

BlackDark: and, yes, alsa supports automatic sample, rate, and format conversion using the plug plugin--which is exactly what the ALSA config I linked does for digital and mixed-digital

[15:16:49]

sphery:

(was just explaining the history to make sure people didn't think I was knocking Intel with the comment about the sound card being limited by being based on an Intel standard--i.e. AC'97 or Intel HDA)

[15:17:04]

BlackDark:

ok I asked that because I've done what the page was telling, and that's doesn't work

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si-p:

jarle: scan is looking for /dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0 and /dev/dvb doesn't exist

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BlackDark:

aplay -D ALSA:spdif test.ac3

[15:19:13]

BlackDark:

ALSA lib pcm.c:2145:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM ALSA:spdif

[15:19:13]

BlackDark:

aplay: main:550: audio open error: No such file or directory

[15:19:39]

sphery:

so you have ~/.asoundrc and you've edited the config to specify the right hardware device (i.e. card 0 device 1 or whatever) and you've edited the stanza "pcm.!default" to only have 'slave.pcm "digital-hw"' uncommented?

[15:20:26]

sphery:

you'll want to use ALSA:digital or ALSA:mixed-digital (or, if you edit the default as described above, ALSA:default)

[15:20:52]

sphery:

but that "ALSA:<whatever>" only works in Myth. In ALSA, you'd use something like aplay -D spdif test.ac3

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BlackDark:

so in the section pcm.!default ?

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sphery:

but aplay doesn't support AC-3

[15:21:29]

BlackDark:

that's was the howto's example

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sphery:

and the config file only configures the digital output for PCM (i.e. does not configure/convert AC-3/DTS)

[15:21:43]

si-p:

jarle: thanks for your help anyway

[15:21:51]

sphery:

like I said, "There's a lot of incorrect info in that page" :)

[15:22:18]

jarle:

si-p: in the channel scanner, there is a button (in the middle of the screen) where you can set it to full tuned scan, scan only one transport, or import channels.conf

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sphery:

the "aplay -D devicename /path/to/audio/file.au" is correct, though--but it uses a supported audio format (au)

[15:22:50]

sphery:

change "devicename" to digital or mixed-digital

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jarle:

si-p: which distro are you using?

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si-p:

jarle: debian

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BlackDark:

sphery: what format does it support ?

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si-p:

jarle: in channel scanner i have something called Scan Type and it's set to Full Scan

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si-p:

jarle: and there is no other value for this other than Full Scan

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gering:

I'm trying to use the Edit Keys helper but it is not recognizing when I push some of the buttons on my MCE remote, e.g. "Live TV". The irw utility responds to these buttons, though. Any ideas?

[15:24:58]

si-p:

jarle: Debian unstable

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jarle:

si-p: I have only used the dvb-s scanner, so I'm a bit lost when it comes to dvb-t scanning

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si-p:

jarle: ok, you seem to have more idea than me :)

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BlackDark:

ok works with a wav file

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sphery:

BlackDark: yeah, (some) wav files are supported

[15:26:01]

BlackDark:

now mplayer

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si-p:

jarle: it's been about 12 months since i last tried to setup mythtv on this machine

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sphery:

for mplayer, you'd need a different format to specify the ALSA device. However, changing "pcm.!default" changes the default for ALSA, so it's /much/ easier to change the default to the desired device

[15:26:59]

Shadow_7:

My HDTV overscans about 10% of the image off screen at 1920x1080. 1776x1000 is the largest on screen mode I've gotten. And Cntrl+Alt+[+] has no noticeable difference other than the ability to scroll the virtual space between 1920x1080 and 1776x1000.

[15:27:08]

si-p:

jarle: no hardware changes, just software updates and I'm sure i had the channel stuff being populated using EIT

[15:27:25]

si-p:

jarle: i find mythtv such a pain to setup

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gbee:

Shadow_7: what input? VGA or DVI/HDMI

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jarle:

si-p: try putting something like this into google and see if you find any more help there "scan for dvb-t channels channels.conf mythtv""

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si-p:

jarle: dont think ive ever managed to get it setup correctly

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Shadow_7:

defaults.pcm.card # to change your default card. (only works for apps using alsa natively)

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BlackDark:

like that mplayer -ao alsa:device=spdif ?

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Shadow_7:

gbee: HDMI via a VisionTek / ATI HD 4550

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si-p:

jarle: ok, i'll give that a go in a bit, thanks

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gbee:

any modern HDTV that is overscanning, especially by that amount ...

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Shadow_7:

BlackDark: yes, if spdif is named in your asoundrc

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gbee:

even with old SDTVs we tend to assume 5% max

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Shadow_7:

otherwise you're gonna have to use hw:0 and other names.

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gbee:

my Sony doesn't overscan at all

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sphery:

BlackDark: don't remember the format, but if that's corect, it would use the spdif logical device defined by ALSA. The spdif logical device is basically writing /direct/ to the hardware (meaning /no/ conversion of rates occurs). If you're trying to do AC-3, though, that's what you need, but you /also/ need to have 48kHz AC-3 or a program that re-encodes AC-3 to 48kHz

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gbee:

Shadow_7: sure it's not just a display setting? i.e. you've got it in stretch mode

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sphery:

Myth doesn't (currently) re-encode AC-3 to 48kHz, though it can decode AC-3 and write out the decoded and down-mixed (to 2-channel) audio to digital or mixed-digital (which will do rate conversion on the PCM).

[15:31:21]

Shadow_7:

tried the different modes, no luck.

[15:31:27]

Shadow_7:

Only 4 to choose from.

[15:31:39]

sphery:

However, you can use analog outputs and Myth will output 5.1 channels of decoded audio that can be converted

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gbee:

the aspect ratio modes, yeah?

[15:32:09]

jamiem:

what is mythtv.record.type ?

[15:32:30]

jamiem:

it looks like 1 is Films but there are other "1s" that aren't

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jamiem:

no that can't be right

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Shadow_7:

Any tricks (that apply to ATI cards) for acheiving underscan, so my 1920x1080 fits the screen?

[15:33:29]

sphery:

jamiem: if you mean mythconverg.record.type, it's the recording rule type

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BlackDark:

ok, that works with mplayer too with mplayer -ao alsa:device=spdif ...

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sphery:

jamiem: (but direct editing of the DB is not recommended :)

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jamiem:

sphery: thanks (my db is called mythtv)

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BlackDark:

how can I do the same for mythvideo internal player ?

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gbee:

Shadow_7: wonder if you're seeing the default overscan change they made in recent versions of the ati driver

[15:34:37]

gbee:

hang on, let me see if I can dig up the fix

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Shadow_7:

I'm not sure what I'm seeing. I was expecting to have / learn about overscan/underscan since it's a 1080p LCD HDTV.

[15:35:45]

jamiem:

I guess I have to add JOIN program to get genres

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jamiem:

sphery: I know it's not recommended but I'm trying to amend multiple offsets for just movies

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Shadow_7:

I've tried various modelines and no luck. tried the --display-attrib:tmds1,sizeX:1920 sizeY positionX positionY stuff and doesn't seem to affect it.

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gbee:

hmm, just remember that the issue with the driver was underscan, not overscan – basically they changed the default behaviour for certain display types which affected TVs ... maybe you need that underscan behaviour

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Shadow_7:

There was a 74.25 modeline that I changed to 74.2 that did affect it, but that's about the only one.

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Shadow_7:

underscan would be nicer.

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Shadow_7:

at least I'd be able to see the taskbar / window decorations / menus / ......

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sphery:

jamiem: multiple offsets?

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jamiem:

sphery: some are 0 some are 2 and I went to amend the start and end offsets all to 5

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jamiem:

but only for films :)

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Shadow_7:

I like my cards upscaling abilities. But without 1920x1080 on the HDTV, It sort of defeats WHY I bought the card to start with.

[15:41:58]

Shadow_7:

Which was for HDMI out and FullHD resolution.

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gbee:

Shadow_7: you might want to look at this thread and try reversing the options given – http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php . . . mp;page=4#40

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jamiem:

oh. `record` has category. Doh.

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gbee:

e.g. try "aticonfig --set-pcs-val=MCIL,DigitalHDTVDefaultUnderscan,1"

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Shadow_7:

It does 720p pretty good. But almost all of my non-TV displays do much better than that.

[15:42:52]

gbee:

or change the output offset/res

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sphery:

jamiem: aren't film recording rules one-off rules (find and record one episode...)?

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jamiem:

Yes. But I'm lazy and don't want to go through a few dozen

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Shadow_7:

I think part of the issue is that the HSync / VRefresh rates are very narrow. Many of the modelines that would underscan exceed the dot clock. H 15–46 / V 59–63 / C 160MHz

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sphery:

jamiem: yeah, type 1 = single record

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jamiem:

UPDATE record SET startoffset=5,endoffset=5 WHERE category LIKE "Movie" All done. :)

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sphery:

jamiem: but, going through a few dozen is better

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Shadow_7:

Tried that one iirc.

[15:45:08]

Shadow_7:

Not currently connected to that display.

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jamiem:

sphery: I appreciate your help.

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Shadow_7:

tried 0 too. Might be that it's a visiontek card which doesn't offer linux drivers. Although the ATI fglrx driver seems to work good enough.

[15:48:13]

Shadow_7:

Is there a way to disable the upscaling abilities? I'm wanting to do video editing, and I probably shouldn't be looking at the pretty rendering of ugle sources all the time.

[15:48:31]

Shadow_7:

s/ugle/ugly/

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Shadow_7:

It seems that some HDTVs have an option to turn overscan off, mine doesn't.

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aBs0lut30:

hey guys, still fighting the svn configure script not liking my FreeType, can someone tell me where its looking for the FT_Init_FreeType function? is it looking in the library object, or is it looking in the source files??

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aBs0lut30:

cause as far as I can tell thats what its not finding...

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jamiem:

Shadow_7: you're in good company. I have to settle for 3/4" border on my "HD" TV

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jamiem:

1366x768 ftl

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Shadow_7:

My issue is that my borders are OFF screen.

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jamiem:

Shadow_7: mine were. I was using a Mac Mini though and could turn overscan off in display settings

[16:00:58]

Shadow_7:

although 720p is on screen and pretty good looking.

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Josh_Borke:

i have that problem with the DVI output on my card, i clone across both vga and dvi and the vga fits the screen perfectly while the dvi out my panels at the top and bottom disappear

[16:01:40]

jamiem:

my Mac OS X build on mythtv/frontend doesn't seem to like audio only channels. It dies.

[16:02:22]

Shadow_7:

Well the HDTV only had HDMI, component, and composite inputs.

[16:02:41]

jamiem:

I see. I'm using DVI --> HDMI cable

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jamiem:

if I use D-SUB I get 1024x768 stretched or 1280x1024 shrunk to illegibility

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Shadow_7:

I got this card because it had HDMI out so I didn't need to buy an adapter ($30+).

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jamiem:

wish I'd known about 1080i/p properly before I bought

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Shadow_7:

But I ended up by and adapter anyway since reports were such that supported resolutions differed between HDMI and DVI outputs.

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jamiem:

indeed

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Shadow_7:

Although I haven't seen any difference between the two myself.

[16:04:49]

jamiem:

tbh no-one who doesn't know that the border is there have noticed/mentioned it

[16:04:54]

jamiem:

it doesn't seem to detriment viewing

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Josh_Borke:

i got a cheap dvi-hdmi cable for like $5

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jamiem:

ouch double negative hell

[16:05:27]

jamiem:

it might be that my friends are too polite to care to upset me :)

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** jamiem wonders what to do with his Soekris, now **

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Shadow_7:

I don't think knowing about 1080i/p differs with what you get/buy. My TV only shows those resolutions with TV sources at 60Hz. Or so the support for the TV says anyway.

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jamiem:

Shadow_7: mine too, I think. Maybe we both have the same Panasonic ;)

[16:06:53]

Shadow_7:

Well 42" HDTV required me to get as 20' HDMI cable. $90+

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jamiem:

or at least the same insides inside. My TV runs Linux :D

[16:07:11]

Shadow_7:

Mines a Sanyo – DP42848

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Shadow_7:

Coax inputs on the thing suck. Although all others seem good.

[16:08:23]

Shadow_7:

And only one Coax input connection.

[16:08:40]

Shadow_7:

S-Video is much better looking on that display / tv.

[16:08:50]

gbee:

$90? wtf? You can get a 20' HDMI cable for £10 here ($20)

[16:08:55]

Shadow_7:

upscaling on the TV is kind of grainy though.

[16:09:18]

jamiem:

gbee: I *wish* 1GBP == 1USD. It's somewhat lower nowadays :/

[16:09:25]

Shadow_7:

I say a 75' one for $699 USD

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jamiem:

10 British pounds = 14.79500 U.S. dollars

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jamiem:

er 2USD

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Shadow_7:

s/say/saw/

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jamiem:

nm

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** jamiem goes away **

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Shadow_7:

There was a 50' one for $200 at a circuit city that was liquidating.

[16:10:41]

Shadow_7:

Otherwise 8' ones are $30 USD-ish

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gbee:

jamiem: err, yeah, by todays rates it's £10 is $14 ... jeez, hadn't realised it had dropped that far

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Shadow_7:

I think it's all jacked up price wise here since the DTV turnover is this coming February.

[16:12:16]

Shadow_7:

Versus canada and others that are taking a bit longer to screw things up.

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gbee:

$200 is just insane, 4–5x what you should be paying for a 50' cable at an absolute maximum

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Shadow_7:

It's a monster cable though. A bit botique here and normally associated with high quality audio cables.

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gbee:

yeah but utterly meaningless for digital ...

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Shadow_7:

Depends on interpretation. The DVD that came with it says otherwise.

[16:15:58]

RyeBrye_:

Yes, I would totally trust a DVD that came with an overpriced cable to help me feel good about why I bought it

[16:16:01]

gbee:

like gold plating a steel knife and charging you £100 because it "might cut better"

[16:16:14]

RyeBrye_:

Monster for digital cables is total and complete bullshit

[16:16:29]

RyeBrye_:

does it make the 0's "more pure" and the 1's "more 1ish" ?

[16:16:30]

Shadow_7:

Given that it's a DVD and not a BlueRay for a BlueRay cable.

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edoceo:

RyeBrye_: TRUE!

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gbee:

Shadow_7: trust me, it's utter bullshit – several groups have tested Monster HDMI cables against the cheapest (HDMI approved) cables on the market and found no quality difference

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RyeBrye_:

You could use a series of paperclips soldered to the HDMI connectors on the proper pins and would notice no difference

[16:17:26]

Shadow_7:

Probably. But they do make a difference in my XLR mic cables.

[16:17:28]

RyeBrye_:

well... maybe not – it's hard to solder paperclips

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RyeBrye_:

Shadow_7: yeah, for analog cables, cable quality does matter

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** iamlindoro_ huggle monoprice.com **

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iamlindoro_:

s/huggle/huggles/

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gbee:

to be HDMI approved HDMI cables have to have an error rate less than something stupid like 1 in 10 billion

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Shadow_7:

The Monster Coax cable I also got sucks compared to other bottem end Coax cables with slip on connections.

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iamlindoro_:

gbee: Not only have monster cables been tested against cheap cables, they've been tested against wire coat hangers and found to have the same response

[16:18:48]

gbee:

even the HDMI consortium have called bullshit on cables with huge markups like Monster's

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Shadow_7:

Unfortunately you wont find any other type of cable at Frys, Circuit City, Best Buy, .......

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iamlindoro_:

http://consumerist.com/362926/do-coat-hangers . . . nster-cables

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iamlindoro_:

Doink

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jamiem:

hehe

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Shadow_7:

I think Fry's did have another brand, but it was the same damn price.

[16:20:14]

iamlindoro_:

"Matix"

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iamlindoro_:

That's the other "non-Monster" but still crazy expensive brand Fry's carries

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Shadow_7:

The HDMI to DVI adapter was $40 at Radio Shack. But radio shack is synonymous with high markups.

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iamlindoro_:

Heh, I just got two nice component cables, a couple of optical couplers, two optical cables, and an HDMI coupler for $40 all together from monoprice

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Shadow_7:

The component cables are $30-ish as well.

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iamlindoro_:

SPHERY INVADE MY INBOX

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iamlindoro_:

what question would that be? Which container format is full of the most "win-ness?"

[16:45:46]

iamlindoro_:

Which HP case is full of the most purpley plasticky goodness?

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gbee:

I'm not sure I want to answer that question

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gbee:

transcoding of flac to mp3 – what gui apps

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iamlindoro_:

Oh, so it's the genuine article

[16:53:06]

iamlindoro_:

Not some pretender

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gbee:

yeah? scary

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gbee:

as it happens I remembered transkode

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iamlindoro_:

You kannot have a KDE applikation without your "Kays" after all

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gbee:

but unfortunately due to a familiar QT but transkode is crapping out half way through the list

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gbee:

s/but/bug/

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jduggan:

meh

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jduggan:

i have to work tomorrow morning

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jduggan:

:|

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iamlindoro_:

Heh... someone keeps submitting Sass Kenji tickets and they keep getting committed. So much for confounding the enemy :)

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gbee:

huh?

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iamlindoro_:

gbee: The "DN EIT Patch" and the just-committed cascading Diseqc switch patches are from the MythTV satellite stealy patchset

[17:26:16]

iamlindoro_:

I note both were submitted by "anonymous"

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javatexan:

how often is too often for hitting the mythtv db with a quick update. I've added a cron job to change the parental level of videos in certain directories to a new parental level...I have automated scripts that transcode and move videos to certain directories that run about every 30 min or so, is that too often to mess with the database?

[17:26:51]

GreyFoxx:

They are not our enemy

[17:26:59]

GreyFoxx:

they are the sat companies enemy :)

[17:27:17]

GreyFoxx:

as long as we are not violating laws or bypassing encryption then it's no concern of ours

[17:27:26]

iamlindoro_:

GreyFoxx: And if they draw unwanted, unwarranted negative attention to Myth, are they friends?

[17:27:48]

GreyFoxx:

Myth is well known enough

[17:27:55]

GreyFoxx:

just like you can play bittorrent downloaded content in myth

[17:28:02]

GreyFoxx:

we just wont include a torrent client

[17:28:05]

** iamlindoro_ shrugs, grumbles **

[17:28:23]

iamlindoro_:

You kids get off my lawn

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GreyFoxx:

I'm not saying it's right nor defending the usage for that purpose

[17:28:42]

GreyFoxx:

but we are not violating nor breaking anything :)

[17:30:08]

Anduin:

javatexan: nothing important touches that table when mythvideo isn't running so update as often as you like, the data isn't reread from the DB if mythvideo is running though.

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iamlindoro_:

javatexan: And anyway, when myth is recording it's updating the DB many hundreds of times more frequently than that

[17:31:18]

iamlindoro_:

so 30 minutes is very very trivial :)

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javatexan:

k..very true....I am learning that mysql is not exactly "heavy duty"... LOL

[17:32:45]

iamlindoro_:

Depends

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iamlindoro_:

try doing something on your system when mythfilldatabase --refresh-all is running

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javatexan:

lol

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gbee:

oh the irony, turns out that since switching to HDMI audio I've been affected by the 44.1Khz issue, I just hadn't used mythmusic on that frontend until now

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gbee:

wonder why plug isn't doing it's job

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meshe:

mysql isn't very heavy duty???

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meshe:

Threads: 496 Questions: 854466446 Slow queries: 20912 Opens: 2283522 Flush tables: 1 Open tables: 65 Queries per second avg: 304.442

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GreyFoxx:

That's more a config issue than anything :)

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javatexan:

its missing some really nice relational db characteristics....but thats not a conversation for here

[17:51:23]

meshe:

304 queries per second

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meshe:

javatexan: i'll give you that, but that's lessening with each release

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javatexan:

its great for "flat file" dbs though

[17:52:20]

meshe:

the InnoDB storage engine gives you most of the ACID compliance

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javatexan:

yeah...its getting better

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meshe:

one coder here had a bug in his code that was causing an additional 200 queries per second so we were pushing 500+ queries per second through that database server and it handled it fine

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javatexan:

GreyFoxx: what are you working on these days?

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jamiem:

MOAR disks!

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jamiem:

mpeg2 is not small

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jamiem:

hmm

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GlemSom:

I'm a bit confused here... http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/branches tells me the latest fixes is 19386 – while http://svn.mythtv.org/svn/branches/release-0-21-fixes/ tells me its 19439...Which one is right here?

[18:25:54]

iamlindoro_:

GlemSom: 19386 is the last time fixes was touched. The repository is at 19439.

[18:26:10]

iamlindoro_:

They are both correct, just differing pieces of information.

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abqjp:

GlemSom: subversion uses *unique* version numbers, even across branches. So, if you have three branches, which each have on commit, then branch A could be at r1, while B is at r2 and C is at r3.

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GlemSom:

hmm, I just noticed my MCE remote can poweron my girlfriends Zeptop laptop... I wonder how they made that...

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sphery:

wake on usb?

[19:01:39]

Dagmar:

Somewhat obviously.

[19:01:39]

GlemSom:

there's no USB devices attached sphery

[19:01:54]

gbee:

internally there are

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Dagmar:

Whether it's USB or serial doesn't exactly matter, anyway.

[19:02:28]

Dagmar:

The laptop was clearly designed to wake on an IR event

[19:02:28]

GlemSom:

According to the specs the laptop does not have infrared... guess there must be then...

[19:03:31]

sphery:

GlemSom: re: #6018 ( http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/6018 ), what were the details of the schedule you tried to forget, how you did it, and what happened?

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iamlindoro_:

HEh, you can't power a laptop with no IR on with IR... unless there's IR.

[19:11:02]

jduggan:

heh

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jduggan:

too funny

[19:11:57]

GlemSom:

sphery, I'm trying to make it forget show: "Navy CIS: Episode 59". Was recorded on channel TV 3+ at Tue, Dec 23, 17:00 to 18:00- I'm uploading a complete database dump at http://freeshells.ch/~glemsom/database.dump (Will be done in about 10 minutes... Sorry, really slow line)

[19:12:52]

sphery:

GlemSom: and after the "forget old", it's still showing as previously recorded?

[19:13:21]

sphery:

(should say, previously-recorded and duplicate)

[19:13:33]

sphery:

is the DB backup from after the forget old?

[19:14:05]

sphery:

Oh, and thanks for uploading... Looking at the exact rules/history/listings will make is /much/ easier to determine what happened.

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sphery:

GlemSom: Oh, and BTW, what do you get from: mythbackend --version

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sphery:

nvm... I think I can parse the packager's version... 0.21-fixes r19402/r19405

[19:15:49]

GlemSom:

sphery, The dump is AFTER i hit "forget old"... mythbackend is: MythTV Version : 19439. MythTV Branch : branches/release-0-21-fixes

[19:16:06]

sphery:

ok, thx

[19:16:16]

GlemSom:

sphery, And yes, it's still shown as previously recorded

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sphery:

tanderson: Any luck on looking through the changes to the modules for the PCHDTV HD-5500/HD-3000? Which modules were you looking at? (I've found that rolling back to an old kernel is much more work than I had hoped since I didn't keep my old .config's.)

[19:23:42]

GlemSom:

sphery, upload complete

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sphery:

cool

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Carlosp2:

hi

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sphery:

hi

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Carlosp2:

is there a way to avoid access to a video source to a specific frontend?

[19:26:40]

sphery:

GlemSom: BTW, while compressing a database backup with bzip2 takes forever (about 7 minutes on my Athlon XP 2400+ with a 200MB backup), compressing with gzip is very fast (about 30 seconds on the same system/DB).

[19:27:01]

tanderson:

sphery: I was going to try git bisect until I realized v4l-dvb was mercurial which I have no idea how to use

[19:27:39]

sphery:

and the gzip-compressed backup is only about 30% larger (i.e. compressed backup is about 40MB rather than 30MB)

[19:27:42]

tanderson:

sphery: other than that, nope. I'm not so sure that the signal strength is any indication though, because the shows are being recorded fine

[19:27:50]

sphery:

tanderson: cool... I'm just now looking through changelogs

[19:28:35]

tanderson:

if you have anything to test I can try it

[19:29:11]

sphery:

thanks... I'll keep that in mind.

[19:29:16]

Carlosp2:

can I ban certain channels only for one frontend?

[19:30:17]

sphery:

Carlosp2: no, not really. closest you could get is getting the frontend to first try to use a capture card that's connected to a different video source

[19:30:44]

sphery:

Carlosp2: is this a "one frontend can't decode HDTV in real-time" kind of thing?

[19:31:06]

iamlindoro_:

Or a "keep the kids from the porno" thing?

[19:31:25]

sphery:

lol

[19:31:45]

sphery:

or a keep the parents from realizing that I have a video source just for pr0n

[19:32:13]

Carlosp2:

sphery: no, it's just I use xbmc as a frontend, and I don't want terrestrial channels to show up in the list

[19:32:24]

Carlosp2:

jeje, no

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iamlindoro_:

s/frontend/video player/

[19:32:50]

iamlindoro_:

XBMC is *not* a frontend

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Carlosp2:

I have terrestrial and sat inputs, I want access only to the sat channels

[19:33:05]

sphery:

for LIveTV or just recordings?

[19:33:08]

jamiem:

XINAFE

[19:33:18]

sphery:

if recordings, you can do recording groups and have parental controls enabled :)

[19:33:21]

Carlosp2:

just livetv

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sphery:

that would require some support from XBMC

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iamlindoro_:

sphery: Now if only they could figure out how to do that in python

[19:34:18]

Carlosp2:

may be, I'm afraid xbmc gets the channels list from mysql

[19:34:26]

sphery:

in mythfrontend, you could set a subset of channels as favorites and tell it to only show favorites and then only those would show up on that frontend

[19:35:11]

Carlosp2:

I supose this wouldn't work in xbmc....

[19:35:36]

sphery:

don't know if they support favorites, but...

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iamlindoro_:

They don't support nothin'

[19:36:11]

sphery:

iamlindoro_: import mythfrontend (then sample everything in the medicine cabinet) http://xkcd.com/353/

[19:36:15]

iamlindoro_:

They show channels the same way they show a list of files

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iamlindoro_:

sphery: Wheeeee! import playeverythingperfectly!

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sphery:

seems we're wasting our time writing mfe in C++/Qt, then... :)

[19:38:18]

gbee:

not again?

[19:39:21]

sphery:

gbee: was in reference to http://xkcd.com/353

[19:40:01]

gbee:

got that a little late

[19:40:02]

sphery:

but, we all really know that mythui rocks

[19:40:24]

iamlindoro_:

So I managed to get Chinese news television via DVB-S last night

[19:40:29]

gbee:

!trout sphery bag of rocks

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** MythLogBot slaps sphery with a bag of rocks trout on behalf of gbee... **

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** iamlindoro_ tugs at sphery's shirttail **

[19:41:02]

sphery:

iamlindoro_: gotta enable Chinese simplified characters in the OSD, too.

[19:41:04]

iamlindoro_:

mommy? Why is daddy gbee always so angry?

[19:41:18]

gbee:

iamlindoro_: I know that China now owns the USA, does that explain your sudden passion for all things China?

[19:41:43]

iamlindoro_:

gbee: It's my secret asian fetish

[19:41:51]

gbee:

;)

[19:42:11]

sphery:

iamlindoro_: he's just feeling underappreciated because he carries the weight of the entire future of MythTV on his shoulders and people don't understand him

[19:42:59]

gbee:

and sphery is picking on me

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iamlindoro_:

sphery: way to be magnanimous about it. <offers sphery a steak for that eye>

[19:43:12]

sphery:

now, if only he had written mythui in some real language/API, like Perl (42 lines of code), Gloss (because it's pretty), or XBMC (because it has an X in the name)...

[19:44:38]

sphery:

No, really, I love the mythui work you've done. I saw the true benefit of mythui when I did the patch for #5759 .

[19:45:09]

sphery:

It's amazing how much simpler the C++ /and/ the theme code was after the conversion.

[19:45:20]

** iamlindoro_ intends to work on the couple little bling bits he keeps starting and quitting at this week **

[19:45:22]

sphery:

(and it's amazing how much an artistic person could do with it)

[19:45:58]

iamlindoro_:

Adding the 720p/1080i icons keeps making my head hurt and I keep telling myself I'll wait until gbee is done with the PBB

[19:46:00]

iamlindoro_:

:)

[19:46:17]

** sphery considers just buying an Avermedia A-180 (to go alongside my 4 HD-3000's) just to see if my antenna signal strength really is low or if it's a driver issue. **

[19:47:15]

gbee:

don't hold your breath, I've been staring at it for three evenings in a row now and achieved about 10 lines

[19:47:34]

gbee:

bored with it

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iamlindoro_:

That's the spirit!

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[19:51:51]

iamlindoro_:

a la PS3ish UI background

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Dagmar:

Let's just make the UI so CPU-intensive that if it displays properly, people won't have to ask about h.264 1080 single sliced

[19:57:18]

iamlindoro_:

This is where VDPAU is helpful

[19:57:43]

iamlindoro_:

Especially as I would only be playing with it for *my* satisfaction, and screw 'em if it doesn't run on their box

[19:57:45]

sphery:

GlemSom: still here?

[19:59:02]

iamlindoro_:

http://www.divx.com/divx7/

[19:59:13]

iamlindoro_:

/me wonders what the point of it is when you're using someone else's codecs

[19:59:18]

sphery:

yeah, a new release of stolen code?

[19:59:35]

iamlindoro_:

"featuring true HD with h.264 video and aac audio"

[19:59:49]

sphery:

so what makes it divx?

[19:59:51]

iamlindoro_:

So... is it a container format, then? An encoder?

[20:00:08]

iamlindoro_:

I'm going to assume it's just encoding software

[20:03:07]

iamlindoro_:

Uh oh, Media portal has released 1.0, I move the next release of Myth is 2.0 to keep up!

[20:03:24]

** sphery wonders if it's past 19;00 in the part of the world that has station TV3 and uses listings in the language at http://pastebin.ca/1292508 **

[20:03:59]

iamlindoro_:

Yes, it is.

[20:04:12]

sphery:

what language?

[20:04:21]

iamlindoro_:

Looks like Svenska to me

[20:04:29]

iamlindoro_:

Sweeeeeeeedish

[20:04:43]

sphery:

cool. I know why he had the issue at #6018...

[20:04:45]

iamlindoro_:

Where it's 2100

[20:05:03]

GlemSom:

sphery, Now I am... (Needed to do some last minute shopping...) :)

[20:05:14]

sphery:

GlemSom: cool... I know why the problem happened.

[20:05:33]

GlemSom:

Ok ?

[20:05:58]

sphery:

You have 2 distinct (from the backend's perspective) episodes of Navy CIS: Episode 59. One with a description, "Amerikansk dramaserie." and one with a description that starts with that and then has a bunch of extra.

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sphery:

When you marked the 17:00–18:00 episode to "Forget old", it did it (duplicate = 0, see http://pastebin.ca/1292508 ). However, since the 19:00–20:00 episode has a different description, it was /not/ marked to forget old (duplicate = 1), so it is/was blocking the 19:00–20:00 episode from recording

[20:08:26]

GlemSom:

Actually I used mythweb to mark the episode from 17:00 to 18:00 "forget old" – and then I looked at that same episode again.... Still marked as recorded

[20:08:30]

sphery:

Here are the listings data: http://pastebin.ca/1292513 and I only saw those 2 episodes, so I'm assuming you were using the fact that it wasn't recording at 19:00–20:00 as proof it didn't work.

[20:08:55]

sphery:

forget old only says, "Do not use this episode for duplicate detection."

[20:09:05]

sphery:

It keeps the record of the show having been recorded.

[20:09:35]

sphery:

To delete the record, you'd have to use mythfrontend's Previously Recorded screen and select Delete (rather than "Allow this episode to re-record.")

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john_rey:

hello

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iamlindoro_:

Well hello there sailor

[20:10:13]

john_rey:

i have a problem :(

[20:10:16]

sphery:

but, the duplicate = 0 on the 17:00–18:00 episode on oldrecorded ( http://pastebin.ca/1292508 ) says that the forget old worked.

[20:10:16]

GlemSom:

sphery, But, the show still has the status: "This showing was recorded." – and the "Forget old" button is still there... ?

[20:10:54]

sphery:

is it in your recordings directory (i.e. have you yet deleted the recording)?

[20:11:08]

john_rey:

how can i stop the recording while watching tv, because i only need mythtv to watch tv and i dont need the records

[20:11:24]

sphery:

GlemSom: (because there's another possibility, but one that's much more complex :)

[20:11:43]

iamlindoro_:

john_rey: go to the watch recordings screen, bring up the context menu, and choose "stop recording"

[20:12:05]

sphery:

if it's still in recorded, I could see MythWeb saying Forget Old. If it's not, it's probably the complex thing...

[20:12:56]

john_rey:

must i do this every time when i start watching tv???

[20:12:59]

GlemSom:

Well, actually I used mythweb to delete the recording....

[20:13:18]

john_rey:

is there no option like stop always recording?

[20:13:24]

GlemSom:

Or dyd I use mythfrontend... I'm not quite sure on that...

[20:13:44]

sphery:

john_rey: MythTV without recordings is not MythTV. You want xawtv or kaffeine(?) or ?

[20:14:07]

sphery:

GlemSom: oh, nvm... I have your DB, so I can check. :)

[20:14:31]

john_rey:

no i like mythtv, and all what it can do, but i dont need the record function every time i watching tv

[20:14:33]

GlemSom:

sphery, To be honest... quite sure I used mythfrontend to delete the recording... I remember watching the first 5 minutes – and then it turned out I knew that episode... So I deleted it (Using mythfrontend)

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iamlindoro_:

john_rey: ah, you are asking a classic question

[20:15:04]

sphery:

GlemSom: did you delete it after getting the DB backup? It's still listed in the backup.

[20:15:10]

iamlindoro_:

john_rey: Myth is *always* recording

[20:15:17]

iamlindoro_:

john_rey: But myth expires liveTV recordings

[20:15:20]

GlemSom:

No, I deleted it before the backup

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iamlindoro_:

john_rey: If the recording is very short, it will be immediately expired. Otherwise it will by default be expired after 24 hours *or* when you run low on disk space

[20:16:07]

wagnerrp:

john_rey: that is the most basic function of any DVR

[20:16:11]

sphery:

GlemSom: did it record both of the episode 59's? It's definitely still there in the backup: http://pastebin.ca/1292524

[20:16:19]

wagnerrp:

if you do not record livetv, you cannot pause/ff/rw tv

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iamlindoro_:

john_rey: Myth will *not* mercilessly fill your drive with LiveTV, it's all temporary-- and no, you cannot prevent it from doing so-- Whether you know it or not, your Cable company DVR (and everyone else's) are recording everything too

[20:16:56]

sphery:

GlemSom: also, are you by any chance using Gentoo?

[20:17:27]

john_rey:

but my pc is too low to manage, show tv and recording

[20:17:38]

iamlindoro_:

john_rey: If you want to prevent *seeing* live TV recordings, and only see the scheduled recordings, enter watch recordings, press M, and change your filter to one that excludes LiveTV (anything but "all")

[20:17:42]

sphery:

john_rey: xawtv :)

[20:17:45]

wagnerrp:

what is your pc? what kind of tuner card?

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GlemSom:

sphery, Yes, I'm running gentoo

[20:18:22]

iamlindoro_:

john_rey: Too low on what? Like I said, Myth will expire live TV recordings if it runs short on space

[20:18:31]

wagnerrp:

actually, i bet youre trying to run mythtv on your desktop arent you

[20:18:39]

iamlindoro_:

(and scheduled recordings too for that matter, but live tv first)

[20:18:40]

wagnerrp:

mythtv really wants dedicated hardware

[20:19:10]

sphery:

GlemSom: wondered if it was Gentoo because your DB is corrupt (has broken character encoding).

[20:19:35]

sphery:

so, now, I can use the backup you gave me to test the fix that likely every Gentoo user will have to perform before upgrading to trunk/0.22

[20:19:42]

sphery:

so, big thanks :)

[20:20:18]

john_rey:

:D im a little bit confused :D is it possible to stop the recordings and just watch tv or not ???

[20:20:32]

wagnerrp:

in mythtv, absolutely not

[20:20:37]

iamlindoro_:

john_rey: What's to be confused about? In MythTV, Live TV *is* a recordings.

[20:20:38]

sphery:

john_rey: by using the right program for the job--something like xawtv, yes

[20:20:43]

iamlindoro_:

And no, you cannot prevent that

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wagnerrp:

mythtv is first and foremost a DVR. as mentioned, recording livetv is the primary function of a DVR

[20:21:05]

gbee:

no, MythTV is a DVR/PVR

[20:21:07]

sphery:

john_rey: if you want to use mythtv for music/dvd/video/etc. and use xawtv for livetv, then use EXECTV to put xawtv in a menu

[20:21:19]

iamlindoro_:

sphery: Ewwwwwwwwwwww

[20:21:25]

john_rey:

ah, this sounds nice

[20:21:33]

jduggan:

wwhah

[20:21:36]

gbee:

of course you don't get the mythtv OSD or integration

[20:21:43]

sphery:

iamlindoro_: yeah, but if that's what he thinks he wants, he can watch TV like it's 1983. :)

[20:21:48]

GlemSom:

sphery, I should be using UTF8 iirc.... Does that cause problems?

[20:21:57]

john_rey:

so i add with exectv the xawtv in the mythtv menu and watch about this right?

[20:22:06]

Dagmar:

Sure.

[20:22:11]

iamlindoro_:

GlemSom: Did you follow a certain wiki article on how to use UTF in myth?

[20:22:24]

GlemSom:

No, that's Gentoo's default

[20:22:27]

sphery:

GlemSom: the Gentoo configuration is broken... I'm actually testing the fix, now. If you'd like, I can tell you how to fix yours once I get it working.

[20:22:31]

iamlindoro_:

Yes, gentoo's broken default :)

[20:22:37]

sphery:

Or you can wait until 0.22 is released. :)

[20:23:17]

GlemSom:

Well, I haven't noticed it to be broken... :) But sure, I'll like it to be fixed :)

[20:23:33]

GlemSom:

Well, afaik 0.22 isn't groing to be released any time soon :P

[20:23:47]

iamlindoro_:

depends on your definition of soon

[20:23:53]

GreyFoxx:

yeah :)

[20:23:56]

iamlindoro_:

If you mean "as a Christmas present," then no, not soon

[20:23:57]

** jduggan reckons his .19 setup might be updated to .22 when its released (coincidentally when i plan on going to dvb-s :P) **

[20:24:01]

jduggan:

<3months ?

[20:24:06]

sphery:

[20:24:10]

john_rey:

is there anywhere a howto to add xawtv in mythtv?

[20:24:16]

sphery:

GlemSom: in a properly encoded DB

[20:24:26]

sphery:

(stupid Enter next to quote...)

[20:24:27]

wagnerrp:

if you mean 'soon' in terms of geological scales, then yes, 0.22 will be out soon

[20:24:40]

GlemSom:

iamlindoro_, Well, I don't think it's going to be this year! ;) Yeah – within 3 months I'll define as soon (when talking about mythtv anyway)

[20:24:48]

iamlindoro_:

sphery: amusingly, my IRC client renders part of whatever you just said as "(incompatible encoding)"

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iamlindoro_:

There's possibly an outside shot of 3 months

[20:25:49]

sphery:

iamlindoro_: the broken one (after "Notice that") or the "proper, but broken outside of Myth one" (the one after gibberish)?

[20:26:15]

GlemSom:

[20:26:16]

iamlindoro_:

After the Yen Sign and the quotation mark, everything after that

[20:26:48]

sphery:

GlemSom: Actually, I plan to write up a wiki page that tells how to fix the Gentoo DB's. I know exactly how to do the MySQL portion of it, but I don't know for sure if I have the Gentoo portions correct, so if you'd like to be a tester, I can give you the link once I write it up.

[20:27:12]

GlemSom:

sphery, Sure, I'll test it! :)

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sphery:

iamlindoro_: after the quotes was a linefeed, so it must have meant, "somewhere in this line", so we don't know which it disliked. :(

[20:28:07]

GlemSom:

sphery, What are the consequences of Gentoo's broken DB?

[20:28:20]

sphery:

any upgrade to trunk or 0.22 will fail. :)

[20:28:22]

iamlindoro_:

GlemSom: Inability to upgrade to .22

[20:28:38]

GlemSom:

iamlindoro_, Ohh – not that's a showblocker!

[20:28:42]

GlemSom:

now=now

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jduggan:

fail

[20:28:55]

wagnerrp:

the setup/backend/frontend will complain about not being able to upgrade the database schema, and exit

[20:28:55]

jduggan:

2x

[20:28:56]

jduggan:

:P

[20:28:58]

GlemSom:

not=now... ohh.. something....

[20:28:59]

sphery:

you can only upgrade if you fix it properly (as I will write up) or lose data (and if the latter, you'll also corrupt some of the existing data)

[20:29:10]

GlemSom:

I REALLY need spelling check!

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wagnerrp:

but 'not' is a real word

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iamlindoro_:

I would say that being forced to remain at the current version is by very definition a blocker

[20:29:58]

jduggan:

iamlindoro_: not really

[20:30:02]

jduggan:

depends what you want/need

[20:30:06]

jduggan:

im still happily on .19

[20:30:07]

jduggan:

=]

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jduggan:

sorta..

[20:30:17]

jduggan:

;)

[20:30:23]

iamlindoro_:

jduggan: Being *blocked* from upgrading isn't a blocker?

[20:30:27]

gbee:

*cough* freak

[20:30:30]

GlemSom:

wagnerrp, Maybe I just need a delay to my "Enter" key... So I can cancel – and correct my spelling!

[20:30:31]

sphery:

what should I call the page on the wiki, "Fixing a broken Gentoo database configuration before upgrading to trunk or 0.22" seems kind of long...

[20:30:36]

jduggan:

iamlindoro_: ok :)

[20:31:19]

tanderson:

sphery: what motherboard do you have? I could give you my 2.6.17 config if you've a similar motherboard

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sphery:

tanderson: it's a cheap PC Chips...

[20:31:46]

iamlindoro_:

Mmm, delicious PC chips

[20:31:47]

tanderson:

via chipset?

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jams:

iamlindoro_- see any reason to provide a way to delete a saved group of settings from the UI ? I plan on adding it to mythsettings(cmdline)

[20:32:16]

iamlindoro_:

jams: It wouldn't hurt to have it in the UI too

[20:32:27]

iamlindoro_:

jams: Which I guess is not an answer to your question :)

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sphery:

tanderson: it's mainly not wanting to check the configuration before compiling--I tried just importing from my 2.6.26.? config and they had renamed CONFIG_DVB, so DVB wasn't enabled, so all the DVB modules weren't there and I figured similar issues occurred elsewhere.

[20:33:09]

wagnerrp:

jams: as in... flush all the settings connected to a particular host?

[20:33:09]

sphery:

If the changelogs don't give me enough info, I'll just sit down and go through the menuconfig one of these days.

[20:33:24]

iamlindoro_:

wagnerrp: Naw, they only exist as clones of the settings

[20:33:35]

iamlindoro_:

wagnerrp: Don't affect the "used" versions

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sphery:

(though I'm seriously considering just buying a different card to see if it's even worth checking--the cost of the other card is well spent if it prevents my wasting a few hours on a kernel downgrade :)

[20:34:04]

iamlindoro_:

it's a save/restore of existing settings, so the delete would be a delete of the saved copy

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jams:

well guess i can add the framework, and leave it as an todo to hook up a button

[20:34:28]

iamlindoro_:

jams: Why bother, just make it part of the dropdown actions

[20:34:37]

iamlindoro_:

Save/Restore/Copy_From/Delete

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jams:

doh that would work as well, what was i thinking

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** jamiem had to transcode -m a load of stuff for archival due to Christmas schedule upcoming programmes **

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sphery:

jams: gbee wanted a way to delete the settings for a host

[20:35:23]

jams:

i blame it on all the snow

[20:35:33]

iamlindoro_:

heh, jams are you in the NE?

[20:35:38]

jams:

WI

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sphery:

tanderson: oh, and BTW, SiS chipset

[20:35:47]

iamlindoro_:

umm... it may rain here tonight, does that count?

[20:36:02]

gbee:

or more relevant, copy settings from one host to another

[20:36:16]

jams:

gbee- that portion is done

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iamlindoro_:

jams' patch accomplishes that

[20:36:22]

jams:

along with other stuff

[20:36:23]

iamlindoro_:

works nicely too

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sphery:

iamlindoro_: and, yeah, I know PC Chips is dirt cheap and not high performance, but when I bought a high-performance mobo with a high-performance N^Hchipset, the chipset kept overheating and causing kernel panics, which is /really/ annoying when you're 1000 miles away from the reset/power button (especially since it was my master backend) :)

[20:37:39]

gbee:

jams: fantastic

[20:37:52]

jams:

gbee- would you like to look at the patches before it hits trac?

[20:37:59]

sphery:

the PC Chips (=ancient technology) systems have been rock-solid stable. Best money I ever spent was scrapping the high-performance mobo in the backend and getting a POS PC Chips

[20:38:21]

iamlindoro_:

sphery: I have grown to love my fancy Gigabyte backend board-- solid polymer capacitors, all the jumpers are pushbutons, s'nice

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gbee:

jams: I'd like to, but I can't afford to be distracted from what I'm doing :/

[20:38:36]

jams:

figured as much

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wagnerrp:

pushbutton? how do you tell what setting theyre in?

[20:38:49]

sphery:

jams: I definitely want to look at the patch, but I probably won't get time for a couple weeks (visiting family), so I can check them out when they hit track. :)

[20:38:57]

jams:

gbee- you would cringe at the use of the qt wizard settings =)

[20:38:59]

gbee:

how do you lose the jumper?

[20:39:29]

sphery:

iamlindoro_: what chipset on that?

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Dagmar:

He means microswitches, I'm sure.

[20:39:36]

Dagmar:

i.e., dipswitches

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iamlindoro_:

wagnerrp: Clear CMOS, Clear *backup* CMOS, on-board power-on, etc.

[20:39:57]

iamlindoro_:

And no, I mean pushbuttons :)

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gbee:

I remember when it was all dipswitches instead of jumpers, we're going back again?

[20:40:25]

Dagmar:

sphery: I can't tell if you're being sarcastic about that PCChips thing, or if you're drunk

[20:40:31]

wagnerrp:

ok, so not 'real' jumpers like whether to apply SB power to USB

[20:40:41]

sphery:

Dagmar: it's truly how I feel.

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gbee:

my new mobo is jumperless (aside from the CMOS reset)

[20:40:52]

iamlindoro_:

wagnerrp: Well, clear CMOS has classicly been jumpered

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Dagmar:

sphery: You will change your mind after buying a few more of those things

[20:41:16]

sphery:

have 3 myth backends with them and never have any issues

[20:41:23]

Dagmar:

They don't have a very high retention rate. I.e., PCChips boards die early and oftten compared to stuff made with less cheap-ass pieces

[20:41:33]

sphery:

have a few other systems that run them

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wagnerrp:

yeah, but its not really a jumper to set anything, it just shorts the battery long enough for the CMOS to reset

[20:42:17]

iamlindoro_:

wagnerrp: What's that to do with anything? I didn't say "the jumpers to set hings are pushbuttons"

[20:42:20]

sphery:

only issues I've had with them, I've had with mobo's from other manufacturers, too (including Asus and Gigabyte)--exploded caps from the 2004 capacitor issue

[20:43:22]

wagnerrp:

well i must say, gigabyte has come a long way

[20:43:26]

iamlindoro_:

sphery: That's the nice thing about the solid polymer capaciters

[20:43:34]

sphery:

besides, their longevity is actually a bit longer than I need--I have a ton of Athlon XP systems that I would love to burn out so I can replace them with more power-efficient systems

[20:43:34]

gbee:

the one pcchips board I had did just fine for the short period it was in use

[20:43:53]

wagnerrp:

my last gigabyte board (nforce2), had no CMOS anything, and the battery was shoved in such a place i had to remove the sound card to pull out the battery

[20:43:55]

tanderson:

sphery: nope sorry, I got a via chipset

[20:44:08]

sphery:

tanderson: yeah, thanks for the offer.

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sphery:

Mine is SiS since a) the slave backend used to be the master backend when I used PVR-x50's back when the Via chipsets of the day didn't work with those cards and b) the master backend got an identical board when I had reliability problems with the "good" board I bought for the mbe

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sphery:

Oh, and, yes, the slave backend (and a master backend on a friend's system from the same vintage) are PC Chips boards purchased in 2004 (but, late enough in 2004 that it was after the cap issue). IMHO, 4-years is a reasonable life, so if it died today, I'd feel I got my $39 worth. :)

[20:47:44]

sphery:

Not that I would recommend PC Chips to /anyone/, but I'm glad that I bought them for my systems.

[20:49:02]

gbee:

4 years is more than respectable, I think I've only used the same board for 4 years once, in the box that became my gateway

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gbee:

I might set out with the intention of using boards for longer, but after two/three years there has usually been some motive for an upgrade

[20:50:43]

sphery:

yeah, gateways are nice that way... I was upset when lightning took out my (cheap-to-power) Pentium 100/MMX that was my gateway.

[20:51:25]

sphery:

of course, now that it's dead, I can't be accused of being a cl e v er wannabe

[20:52:16]

iamlindoro_:

You'd be surprised what I can accuse you of

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inordkuo:

hi all. can anyone help me figure out what i'm doing wrong setting up xvmc with an nvidia 5200?

[20:52:36]

gbee:

retired mine and replaced it with my first ever hardware router because it was a _lot_ smaller, silent and cheaper to run

[20:53:00]

iamlindoro_:

The first thing you're doing wrong is "setting up xvmc on a 5200"

[20:53:06]

sphery:

heh

[20:53:13]

inordkuo:

is it impossible?

[20:53:14]

sphery:

inordkuo: why do you need XvMC?

[20:53:17]

wagnerrp:

gbee: i actually did that just a couple months ago

[20:53:43]

wagnerrp:

not really a 'hardware router', but an embedded system non the less

[20:53:43]

inordkuo:

well it's not actually for me...for my bro who is running some older hardware

[20:53:49]

sphery:

wagnerrp: I'm considering doing that now that I have an OpenWRT-capable router.

[20:54:06]

Dagmar:

Well, for one thing, aside from merely installing the nVidia driver, there's nothing to "set up"

[20:54:29]

inordkuo:

i can get xvmc running with the grey scale osd but it stutters when the osd is up. if i get chromakey going, then all i get for video is blue screen.

[20:54:38]

sphery:

However, I run enough externally-accessible servers that I would still need to run the other system (just provide a better setup having the gateway/firewall separate from the server machines)

[20:54:42]

Dagmar:

If you're doing something OTHER than just installing the nVidia binary driver and telling xorg to use the "nvidia" driver, then you are doing something wrong.

[20:54:50]

gbee:

inordkuo: un-check 'fade osd'

[20:54:59]

inordkuo:

i've done that

[20:55:04]

** gbee shrugs **

[20:55:19]

inordkuo:

i've read that the stuttering goes away when the chromakey hack is enabled

[20:55:21]

iamlindoro_:

Sounds like it's too old even for xvmc to help, then. And That's *old!*

[20:55:26]

wagnerrp:

do you have to do anything extra like adding the 'composite' module to xorg?

[20:55:28]

gbee:

XvMC sucks really and I didn't even think the 5xxx series supported it

[20:55:42]

wagnerrp:

that had me hung up for days trying to get vdpau working

[20:55:45]

inordkuo:

i've disabled composite in xorg

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sphery:

inordkuo: buy yourself--I mean your bro--a holiday present (newer system that can actually decode video in software) and save yourself the time :)

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** iamlindoro_ thought he burned up Xvmc is the great framegrabber conflagration of 12/08 **

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iamlindoro_:

s/is/in/

[20:56:29]

john_rey:

i found something on mythtv.org

[20:56:31]

john_rey:

The Default profile will be used for any recording which does not otherwise have a specific profile assigned. The 'Live TV' profile will be used when watching TV. The remaining two profiles are available for customizing to allow for more precise control over what quality is used for a given program.

[20:56:53]

** gbee isn't sure if that's 12th Aug, Dec 8th or Dec 2008 **

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john_rey:

is this the option to shut down the recording?

[20:56:59]

iamlindoro_:

gbee: the last

[20:57:03]

john_rey:

my english is not so good sry

[20:57:05]

iamlindoro_:

john_rey: NO

[20:57:12]

iamlindoro_:

john_rey: One more time, you CANNOT stop myth from recording

[20:57:40]

wagnerrp:

again, mythtv is a DVR. all DVRs record everything you watch

[20:57:55]

john_rey:

damn

[20:58:14]

wagnerrp:

i suppose if you really wanted to, you could revert back to 0.18 or 0.19 when mythtv still used a ringbuffer

[20:58:43]

wagnerrp:

if you dont want to record anything, just watch tv on your tv

[20:58:58]

john_rey:

did someone know a alternative of myhttv

[20:59:13]

wagnerrp:

scroll back, its been mentioned several times

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iamlindoro_:

john_rey: ALL DVR software will record everything

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iamlindoro_:

that is the DEFINITION of a DVR

[20:59:56]

iamlindoro_:

If you want to watch TV without recording, you *don't* choose a DVR

[21:00:06]

GreyFoxx:

john_rey: Why not record it? It will auto delete by itself

[21:00:25]

john_rey:

because my pc is too slow

[21:00:30]

wagnerrp:

what is your PC?

[21:00:38]

wagnerrp:

i asked that about an hour back

[21:00:40]

GreyFoxx:

What kind of capture card ?

[21:00:47]

john_rey:

dvbs

[21:00:53]

GreyFoxx:

that takes 0% cpu to receord

[21:00:58]

GreyFoxx:

almost nothing

[21:01:11]

john_rey:

hmm, ok

[21:01:14]

GreyFoxx:

so unless you are running on a 486 it should be fine

[21:01:19]

GreyFoxx:

the dvb stream is already encoded

[21:01:25]

GreyFoxx:

myth just reads from the card and writes it to disk

[21:01:38]

john_rey:

but when im watching its like a dia show

[21:01:45]

GreyFoxx:

playback will depend on a lot of other factors and are much more cpu intensive than recording

[21:02:02]

GreyFoxx:

then you video card/X is improperly setup or you don;t have enough CPU for the material

[21:02:14]

iamlindoro_:

But it has *nothing* to do with recording

[21:02:22]

john_rey:

and if i watch with kaffeine it works fine

[21:02:39]

GreyFoxx:

And of course it's possible you don't have DMA enabled for your drive controller which would make your disk access too slow

[21:02:44]

iamlindoro_:

Then you have wrong deinterlacers/playback settings/the OSD is too much for you, etc.

[21:02:58]

GreyFoxx:

what kind of cpu are you using ?

[21:03:06]

john_rey:

p4 with 2,8 ghz

[21:03:41]

GreyFoxx:

What kind of material? SDTV or HDTV? mpeg2 or h264 ?

[21:03:59]

GreyFoxx:

Cause that cpu should easily handle SDTV and HDTV mpeg2 ... h264 I couldn't say

[21:04:29]

john_rey:

mpeg

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wagnerrp:

well all dvbs recordings will show up as a .mpg file

[21:05:02]

wagnerrp:

regardless of codecs used

[21:05:31]

GreyFoxx:

SDTV or HDTV ?

[21:05:46]

wagnerrp:

whats the ffmpeg command to dump video stats?

[21:06:05]

GreyFoxx:

-i I think

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gbee:

ffmpeg -i <filename>

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jams:

delete sure was simple to add in

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gbee:

yay for people too lazy to google

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Anduin:

iamlindoro_: trailer_button?

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iamlindoro_:

Anduin: for which part?

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Anduin:

iamlindoro_: Theme stuff/editmetadata

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** iamlindoro_ suddenly wonders if he defined a variable he didn't use **

[21:16:53]

iamlindoro_:

Anduin: Okay, I give up, I don't think I understand the question :)

[21:17:18]

iamlindoro_:

I haven't looked at my own patch in a week or two either, so sorry

[21:17:38]

Anduin:

iamlindoro_: It does nothing, nor is there a way to pick up .trailer files for display on the edit screen or I'm missing something.

[21:17:56]

iamlindoro_:

Anduin: No, there isn't (currently) but it's no more broken than the cover files

[21:18:15]

iamlindoro_:

because the cover file browser screen is MIA, so is the trailers one, which would use the same widget

[21:18:55]

Anduin:

Well probably not the same unless gbee makes it better than the old one

[21:19:16]

iamlindoro_:

Well, Had planned on adapting whatever was used for cover browsing

[21:19:24]

iamlindoro_:

Or at least following the example

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sphery:

Heh... MythTV on OpenSolaris. Seems like a lot of work for...

[21:19:57]

sphery:

zfs, maybe?

[21:20:04]

Anduin:

Yeah, I was just making a final pass and playing a trailer with an item was the last thing, didn't look too close at it before

[21:20:26]

gbee:

I was going to create a general purpose file browsing popup which could display previews of images/videos

[21:20:47]

Anduin:

gbee: a directory picker flags would be nice too

[21:21:01]

iamlindoro_:

Anduin: I have been using a short script to manually associate a trailer with a movie in teh mean time, but you're right, that's the one part that was missing (but not much I could do about it)

[21:21:02]

gbee:

yeah

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iamlindoro_:

Anduin: Although I know it's not a great answer, my thought was it was no *more* broken than cover files

[21:22:09]

gbee:

basically something which would be used everywhere we want to select a file(s) or directories, supporting filters, start locations and the rest

[21:22:26]

Anduin:

iamlindoro_: Yeah, I'm fine checking it in as-is, just checking I wasn't missing something, there are plenty of broken things in there currently.

[21:22:30]

iamlindoro_:

Anduin: Committing it "as-is" would mostly just hide the functionality until the file browser is added, so IMO it ought to be fine

[21:22:43]

iamlindoro_:

Anduin: Myth patch, mythvideo, or both ? ;)

[21:22:45]

iamlindoro_:

er My patch

[21:23:33]

iamlindoro_:

Anduin: You had mentioned you hated the UI portion of things so I wanted to do it to increase chances it would make it in :)

[21:23:34]

Anduin:

No your patch is now fixed, I was just going through testing everything before committing it

[21:24:02]

iamlindoro_:

Oh, um... good? It's... fixed.

[21:24:31]

Anduin:

iamlindoro_: The number one thing I hate about the UI stuff is having to do it in all supported themes, that isn't a problem currently :)

[21:24:57]

Anduin:

iamlindoro_: Not the issue I mentioned, a few other minor issues are fixed, you'll see soon when I commit it.

[21:25:10]

iamlindoro_:

ok...

[21:25:19]

Anduin:

(I just need to manually give a video a trailer so I can actually see it work)

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J-e-f-f-A:

iamlindoro_: I re-worked the mythlcdserver 'bigclock' code last-night to have a 12 or 24 hour display format option. What do you think? -> http://jartz.gotdns.com:8008/files/bigclock_new.jpg

[21:34:49]

J-e-f-f-A:

iamlindoro_: The dot in the bottom-right corner blinks instead of the colons.

[21:34:58]

Dagmar:

Argh

[21:35:14]

Dagmar:

Your code is fine but jeez I hate fixed-spacing in LCD displays

[21:35:33]

iamlindoro_:

J-e-f-f-A: Neato! Almost makes me wish I kept any of my myth boxes somewhere visible :)

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gbee:

not sure what I expected, but is the lack of comment/feedback on the TMDB switch a good thing? i.e. no-one has noticed or they don't have complaints so far?

[21:36:00]

Dagmar:

iamlindoro__: Is it wrong to be considering the Sharper Image "Entertainment" projector as a secondary display?

[21:36:16]

iamlindoro_:

Dagmar: Depends on whether you're my grandma :)

[21:36:23]

gbee:

J-e-f-f-A: it uses the user's time format setting?

[21:36:25]

Dagmar:

$99 gets you a projector with exactly *shit* for resolution, but it uses really cheap $10 bulbs.

[21:36:36]

iamlindoro_:

gbee: It works well for the most part, and occasionally causes segfaults. Next time I see one I'll force myself to get a BT

[21:36:55]

Dagmar:

I'm seriously thinking about getting one used from eBay to use to project the time and stuff on the wall catacorner to my TV

[21:36:57]

gbee:

segfault? hmm, that's odd

[21:37:11]

Dagmar:

480x240 resolution. You have been warned.

[21:37:53]

iamlindoro_:

gbee: Think it's when I do something unexpected like hit a key during download, and possibly another when it returns multiple results and I give it input it doesn't like

[21:38:00]

directhex:

Dagmar, good enough to play monkey island 1 AND 2, FYI

[21:38:12]

J-e-f-f-A:

gbee: Yeah, initially I just added a dropdown box for "Time Format: 12 Hour" "24 Hour" – then I changed the Localization string and noticed that it 'broke' with it, so I changed the code to just use the localization string. (the 12/24 checkbox could be removed I think)

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iamlindoro_:

My 1080p projector plays Monkey Island heckagood

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gbee:

iamlindoro_: ok, cool, BT would be nice because clearly some things aren't quite right :)

[21:38:43]

iamlindoro_:

Then I can use the fancy ScummVM swscalers

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iamlindoro_:

gbee: No problem, sorry I haven't gotten to it when I've seen it before

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** directhex runs iamlindoro_ through advmame3x **

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** iamlindoro_ feels sudden weight gain **

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iamlindoro_:

sphery: That's actually why I love the backend port

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iamlindoro_:

whoah, that sounded wrong

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sphery:

d'oh... Meant to hit preview, but hit Save page

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gbee:

can't say I like the sound of segfaults because it means I've probably screwed things up, but I'd much rather fix it than not know about it

[21:40:20]

J-e-f-f-A:

Dagmar: Hey, that would be a great display for my backend status... forget the little 20x4 lcd! ;-)

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iamlindoro_:

gbee: It may well be related to non-grabber things but only happen to have seen it there-- I think there is a segfault shared in common with mythtube which makes me wonder about htpcomms

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iamlindoro_:

(where you can also cause the occasional segfault with keypresses during a download)

[21:41:23]

J-e-f-f-A:

(the Sharper image projector that doesn't live up to it's name...)

[21:42:18]

gbee:

there is another issue with the cover download in mythvid that I really want to fix, if you move off the selected item during the download then the cover isn't updated

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iamlindoro_:

Would be nice to use the progress widget for the download so you know when it's still trying or has given up

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gbee:

and there is no indication that it's downloading at that time

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gbee:

iamlindoro_: 'zactly

[21:43:33]

gbee:

I was thinking a little spinny "busy" image where the poster would be

[21:43:39]

iamlindoro_:

OoooOOOooh

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Anduin:

unless you get to it I'm bringing back my big gray rectangle

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gbee:

I'll make time over the holiday, it shouldn't take long

[21:45:20]

iamlindoro_:

Sounds... um... wait, how do we feel about a big grey rectangle? Is this in THX1138-wide?

[21:46:30]

Anduin:

I hope it doesn't take long, giving up on doing it was the only thing that made me able to commit a few weeks back. There are a number of modal assumptions that need fixing in addition to some way to get to actual button items in a tree.

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Anduin:

I have time (next 10+ days), I plan to close tickets and get to that eventually, I hope you win though.

[21:54:19]

sphery:

any gentoo users around who can verify that my.cnf is stored in /etc/ on Gentoo?

[21:54:59]

opello:

i have /etc/mysql/my.cnf

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sphery:

opello: thx

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jams:

sphery any thoughts on an easy way to populate the new "Default" settings table with the settings myth uses by default? Looking for a way to avoid populating that table manually.

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jams:

suppose i could just leave it empty and let packagers populate it

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sphery:

jams: good plan (not doing it manually)--as defaults change over time... Just thinking off the top of my head, I'd guess we'd need some code in Myth to support it.

[21:57:35]

gbee:

Anduin: maybe I'm overlooking some hurdle right now, but I'll guess we'll see

[21:57:40]

sphery:

plus, plugins have different settings

[21:58:18]

sphery:

jams: the packagers option, though, is a reasonable first approach (and may actually be appreciated by packagers)

[21:59:00]

sphery:

anyone know if it's possible to "fold" a section in the wiki? (and to do so by default)

[21:59:54]

gbee:

I keep making the mistake of making things sound too easy or promising on stuff I don't have time to deliver, but at the very least I need to finish what I started with mythvideo because it's not fair to expect everyone else to do it

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jams:

sphery- there are actually two "Defaults" one is planned for default settings myth uses, the other is for distro's to have their own defaults.

[22:00:23]

sphery:

cool

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sphery:

if you're populating it programmatically, I'd recommend using an approach similar to what happens when you first start a component with a given (currently unused) hostname... That way, you can get backend settings, frontend settings, and/or (individual) plugin settings, as desired.

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jams:

thats a simple load/save but that doesn't help me any if the user has already changed values in the main settings table. The load/save will only change/add values if they do not already exisit.

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Anduin:

gbee: I will get to it, I'd be willing to do the progress bar thing but anything beyond blocking continuing actions takes more work and would in my estimation be more work than I'm willing to put in to it.

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gbee:

there is nothing on TV over the Christmas/New Year period and I'm not spending the holidays visiting the usual friends/relatives, so I expect I'll have time to catch up on a few jobs

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sphery:

Do Gentoo'ers use sudo for everything root, like Ubuntu-ers?

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quentusrex_:

Hello all

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sphery:

i.e. would Gento do: sudo mv /etc/mysql/my.cnf /etc/mysql/my.cnf-orig

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gbee:

probably not, it's not complicated enough

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quentusrex_:

I'm trying to get a Comcast DCH-6200 to work with firewire. Anyone have any suggestions?

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quentusrex_:

I don't think the firewire port is active... :(

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gbee:

should have emerge in there somewhere

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sphery:

gbee: heh... OK, I'll put the "if appropriate thing in" and leave them to fend for themselves. :)

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gbee:

"while hopping on one leg with your hands tied behind your back, type in the following: "

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denos:

quentusrex: What are you seeing?

[22:16:23]

quentusrex_:

thanks denos, I'm currently seeing the diagnostic page on the STB it says the ports are enabled but not active.

[22:17:22]

Webspot:

Hi. I'm trying to set up two backends. The master backend is in charge of everything, and then the slave backend has the TV tuner in. When I try to run both backends, the slave gets an error message saying: "writeStringList: Error, invalid string list". Log of slave: http://pastebin.com/m388db5b3 – Log of master: http://pastebin.com/d7ce8ffbb – Could anyone give me and idea of where I am going wrong?

[22:17:47]

denos:

Ok. Have you tried plugreport to see how things look on computer? If so what does it report?

[22:18:21]

denos:

I just set up a DCT-6200 last night (Calgary, AB, Canada) so its pretty fresh for me :)

[22:18:34]

gbee:

Webspot: socket error, are you using wireless between the two?

[22:18:37]

quentusrex_:

denos, I tried plugreport but it doesn't return anything.

[22:18:57]

Webspot:

gbee: No wireless. It's a wired connection.

[22:19:41]

denos:

quentusrex_, try (and paste the results): lsmod | grep 1394

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gbee:

the myth protocol unfortunately has very little fault tolerance, there are other software related causes (bugs) which would cause that error, but one of the main ones would be that packets were dropped

[22:20:16]

quentusrex_:

raw1394 32348 0

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quentusrex_:

dv1394 25180 0

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quentusrex_:

ohci1394 37936 1 dv1394

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quentusrex_:

ieee1394 96324 3 raw1394,dv1394,ohci1394

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gbee:

pastebin!

[22:20:27]

quentusrex_:

oops.

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quentusrex_:

denos, what do you see?

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denos:

quentusrex_, Same. So you have the right modules. When you say plugreport doesn't return anything, does it literally just drop to the next line or is there some output?

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Webspot:

gbee: Thanks for your help anyway. More investigating for me, I guess!

[22:24:14]

quentusrex_:

denos, it drops to the next line and returns nothing.

[22:24:34]

denos:

quentusrex_, What kernel are you using (uname -a)?

[22:24:47]

quentusrex_:

denos, Linux pcpharmacy-desktop 2.6.27-9-generic #1 SMP Thu Nov 20 21:57:00 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux

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denos:

quentusrex_, Have you blacklisted the juju firewire drivers?

[22:25:44]

quentusrex_:

denos, remind me how to do that.

[22:26:10]

denos:

quentusrex_, This should return nothing if they're blacklisted: lsmod | grep -i firewire

[22:26:30]

quentusrex_:

denos, it doesn't return anything.

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denos:

quentusrex_, The plot thickens then. Checking a few things here to see if I can duplicate a blank plugreport. In the meantime, what firewire chipset are you using?

[22:28:32]

quentusrex_:

denos, I'm not quite sure.

[22:28:58]

denos:

lspci | grep 1394, lspci | grep 1394

[22:29:53]

quentusrex_:

denos, It's on the motherboard... but lspci returns nothing about 1394..

[22:30:13]

gbee:

quentusrex_: disabled in the bios?

[22:30:26]

Anduin:

iamlindoro: 19441 let me know if I managed to break anything

[22:31:05]

iamlindoro:

Anduin, Cool, thanks! Contacting Amazon right now (sent HALF a gift I bought) will check it out in a couple

[22:31:41]

quentusrex_:

gbee, shouldn't be. I'm checking though...

[22:31:59]

sid3windr:

how do you send half a gift?

[22:32:53]

quentusrex_:

wow... the firewire was disabled in bios....

[22:33:04]

gbee:

no need to thank me

[22:33:05]

Dagmar:

They shipped the batteries but not the inflatable sheep

[22:33:07]

gbee:

;P

[22:33:12]

quentusrex_:

thanks anyways gbee.

[22:33:37]

denos:

quentusrex_, So you're back in business?

[22:33:52]

quentusrex_:

denos I'm booting up right now... I'll check a few things in a moment...

[22:33:52]

denos:

quentusrex_, (sidetracked for a bit there)

[22:34:15]

quentusrex_:

'

[22:34:20]

quentusrex_:

'Watch TV' still doesn't work.

[22:35:01]

gbee:

simlish?

[22:35:07]

quentusrex_:

04:03.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6306 Fire II IEEE 1394 OHCI Link Layer Controller (rev c0)

[22:35:36]

quentusrex_:

now plugreport returns info.

[22:35:43]

denos:

quentusrex_, You'll need to stop the backend, and fire up mythtv-setup and setup the firewire device. I have the exact same chipset so it should be fine.

[22:36:02]

Anduin:

gbee: it is what The Sims speak

[22:36:16]

denos:

quentusrex_, I had to use "Broadcast" mode instead of "Point to Point" (when you set up the device)

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denos:

quentusrex_: I found this helpful http://the-gibson.com/blog/2008/03/06/gentoo-mythtv/

[22:37:45]

gbee:

Anduin: that whole last paragraph went right over my head ;)

[22:38:09]

denos:

quentusrex_, You don't need to worry about the port settings if you're using 0.21 (maybe earlier?). Mythtv should autodetect the device.

[22:38:23]

test1:

does someone know why i only can view the channels without information of programmation ? (if, before the mythfillDB i had them all ok ?)

[22:38:51]

Anduin:

gbee: ahh, all the bad parts of going to the movies, we are chatter and an ad show from parity

[22:38:58]

quentusrex_:

denos, ok. I'm testing it now...

[22:39:14]

quentusrex_:

mythtv automatically detected most of the settings for the firewire connection...

[22:39:28]

quentusrex_:

So I'm hoping it'll work now

[22:39:29]

gbee:

Anduin: heh

[22:40:27]

test1:

does someone knows why i only can view the channels without information of programs ? (if, before runing mythfillDB i had them all ok ?)

[22:43:39]

quentusrex_:

denos, for some reason comcast asked for my pin

[22:43:45]

quentusrex_:

the box asked for the pin...

[22:45:20]

Dagmar:

Ohnoes! It's got a keylogger!

[22:45:33]

Dagmar:

Better change your password before it de's all your purples and sells your gold!

[22:45:53]

quentusrex_:

Dagmar :)

[22:45:58]

denos:

quentusrex_, That's a new one for me. Did you set up any parental controls? Also that's the DCT that asked for a pin?

[22:46:13]

iamlindoro:

Anduin, Still on hold with freakin' Bangladesh, but looks like I wasn't *too* far off, thanks for the improvements and the commit :)

[22:46:28]

quentusrex_:

I've got an lcd monitor attached to the mythtv box, and the STB attached to the projector.

[22:46:36]

quentusrex_:

on the projector it asked for the pin

[22:47:02]

sphery:

iamlindoro: do you know wiki-formatting?

[22:47:28]

sphery:

I'm trying to figure out how to include some info, but "fold" the section, by default (allowing the user to open it only if they want to see it)...

[22:47:32]

iamlindoro:

sphery, A little bit

[22:48:17]

denos:

quentusrex_, Maybe give them (Cable Company) a call and be prepared for a lot of long pauses... :( I'd just start with "My box is asking for a pin?"

[22:48:52]

quentusrex_:

yeah, it's asking for the 'locks PIN'

[22:49:11]

quentusrex_:

denos, what should I tell them the mythtv is emulating?

[22:49:15]

quentusrex_:

a VCR?

[22:50:51]

quentusrex_:

and the STB still says the firewire port is enabled but not active.

[22:50:56]

denos:

quentusrex_, You could also try switching to "point to point" to see if that helps. If they really want the technical bits, just say you're attaching a third party PVR via firewire and the PIN pops up initial communication. Stress that everything is fine with the third party PVR, you just need to know what to punch in for the pin.

[22:52:53]

Dagmar:

I'd try the obvious ones first... 0000, 1234, the last four digits of the STB's serial number, etc.

[22:53:05]

Dagmar:

At any rate it certainly shouldn't be demanding a PIN to connect to firewire

[22:53:12]

denos:

quentusrex_, When you try to view tv, what does mythtv do? (black screen, "Partial Lock", etc.)?

[22:53:21]

quentusrex_:

partial lock

[22:53:51]

denos:

quentusrex_, L__ / Lam ?

[22:54:10]

quentusrex_:

?

[22:54:33]

denos:

quentusrex_, Sorry, when it says partial lock, what follows that. Its probably L__ or Lam but just want to make sure.

[22:55:22]

quentusrex_:

L__

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denos:

quentusrex_, Ok. I started that way too. I didn't have a monitor hooked up so its possible I was being prompted for a pin as well. Lets run some tests. Shutdown the mythbackend/frontent.

[22:57:45]

denos:

Run plugreport and identify your node (likely 0 or 1), then run: firewire_tester -n 1 -B (it should indicate 5 round of success or failure)

[22:58:14]

denos:

Substitute -n 1 for your node if its something else

[23:00:49]

quentusrex_:

YAY, it works.

[23:00:55]

quentusrex_:

I called comcast. they 'sent the code'

[23:01:05]

quentusrex_:

now it works onto the lcd screen

[23:01:13]

denos:

quentusrex_, Great!

[23:01:14]

quentusrex_:

I'm 80% of the way there :)

[23:01:47]

Dagmar:

They remotely unlocked the PIN?

[23:01:50]

Dagmar:

Jesus that's lame

[23:02:02]

quentusrex_:

alright, I'm getting a problem...

[23:02:08]

quentusrex_:

it dies after a matter of seconds.

[23:02:09]

denos:

Agreed. Some control freaks at your cable company

[23:02:22]

Dagmar:

There's no reason to make those locked by default other than to perhaps push people into buying their PVR service instead of letting them use their own

[23:02:43]

Dagmar:

I'd demand to know why that was locked in the first place

[23:03:03]

denos:

I got that too. Make sure you configured Broadcast when you executed mythtv-setup (not Point to Point).

[23:03:28]

quentusrex_:

denos, I'll reconfigure that in a second...

[23:03:47]

denos:

If you have that right, it's likely a data rate mismatch. Run plugreport and look for data_rate in the oPCR[0] line.

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quentusrex_:

what speed should work?

[23:05:23]

quentusrex_:

100? 200?

[23:05:42]

quentusrex_:

I have the comcast HD package...

[23:05:49]

denos:

Run plugreport and use what it reports plus 00. eg if plugreport is indicating data_rate=1 use 100 Mbps

[23:06:23]

quentusrex_:

now it's switched nodes...

[23:06:42]

denos:

That's ok. Myth follows the GUID which will be constant.

[23:07:36]

quentusrex_:

That's the plugreport output.

[23:07:40]

denos:

Make sure to restart the backend/frontend after making these changes. I had to pull the plug on the STB a couple of times (it would stop playing nicely when the settings were wrong)

[23:07:44]

quentusrex_:

after I've 'configured' the firewire input.

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denos:

So you should be ok with 200 Mbps based on that output.

[23:08:54]

quentusrex_:

hmm.... denos, The comcast cable box now outputs all channels in a small resolution output

[23:09:32]

sphery:

iamlindoro: did you see stuarta's comment on #5882 ? I wholeheartedly support his executive decision to delete that comment from Trac.

[23:09:37]

Dagmar:

Yeah, so, if I were you, I'd be documenting how you're going to making their tech support lives a living hell.

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Dagmar:

'cuz I'd call them as many times as it freakin' takes.

[23:09:59]

iamlindoro:

sphery, I did, I sorta wish I had seen it :) (oh, -commits!)

[23:10:10]

iamlindoro:

(Still on phone with F%$@#&%#$&(%#$&( amazon

[23:10:28]

Dagmar:

If you're a digital cable subscriber they can certain enable 5C protection, but they can't legally make the thing downsample the output (although I'm not entirely sure it even *can* do that)

[23:11:07]

sphery:

Any Gentoo users want to be the first to try the procedure for fixing your (broken) database system configuration/corrupt MythTV database using the instructions I just posted to the wiki? http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Fixing_C . . . ase_Encoding

[23:11:40]

test1:

i try

[23:12:01]

** sphery wonders how long it will be once he posts the link on the -users list before someone edits the wiki page and makes the instructions incorrect... **

[23:13:26]

sphery:

test1: OK, note that I haven't yet tried it on a Gentoo system, so some of the Gentoo parts may be a little rough around the edges. If they're obviously wrong, feel free to edit, otherwise, please let me know where you have issues. Also, note that if it doesn't work, you should revert to the old (broken) configuration until we've figured out the fix for the instructions. :)

[23:13:49]

sphery:

(See 4. What to do if problems occur for a quick discussion of reverting)

[23:14:42]

test1:

im on opensuse 11, and newbie , so dont wait a lot of my conclusions .. i'll tell u monday .. same hour :|

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jduggan:

rofl

[23:15:29]

test1:

(i'm installing that .. your tool could be useful :) lol

[23:15:34]

denos:

quentusrex_, Not sure on that one. I'm not using the STB output on my box (its only for Mythtv capture)

[23:16:41]

sphery:

test1: while it would be /extremely/ useful for you to run a test for me to see if OpenSuse is misconfiguring the DB server, as of now, I think it's only Gentoo that's broken.

[23:17:30]

quentusrex_:

denos, I think I've figured it out...

[23:17:37]

test1:

sphery: i'll have a look seriously .. but it's very tzcnical..for me :)

[23:17:39]

sphery:

test1: can you pastebin the output of: echo 'status;' | mysql -umythtv -p mythconverg

[23:17:56]

sphery:

(i.e. post the output at http://pastebin.ca/ )

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sphery:

if you can do that, I can probably tell you whether your system is corrupt

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denos:

Question for everyone else: I've setup MythTV (0.21p18314) with an Intel G35 (2.4.2 driver) on Xorg 7.2. Everything works great until I use the skip forward / back keys. The video goes from smooth to having a minor stutter. Ring any bells for anyone?

[23:19:43]

denos:

(from that point forward)

[23:20:23]

denos:

I've tried every option I can find in the Playback section but no dice. Navigation results in a noticable stutter in video output.

[23:20:46]

sphery:

denos: run optimize_mythdb.pl and then http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Repairing_the_Seektable on any recording file that still shows issues

[23:20:53]

test1:

sphery: http://pastebin.ca/1292659

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sphery:

denos: or, if it /only/ happens when skipping using the remote (i.e. not using the keyboard), you need to upgrade to post-r19222 0.21-fixes

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denos:

I'll give that a shot. Thanks!

[23:23:06]

sphery:

test1: thanks for the paste... It tells me that your system is properly configured, so the instructions on the page I posted (which are primarily for Gentoo) don't apply--you don't need to worry about it. And, I appreciate your help. I hadn't found anyone to test Suse config, yet.

[23:23:29]

test1:

i'm here

[23:23:33]

sphery:

gbee: are you around?

[23:24:15]

sphery:

gbee: if you're still mandriva, can you pastebin the output of the following, please: echo 'status;' | mysql -umythtv -p mythconverg

[23:24:39]

denos:

No remote here :( The stutter occurs with any forward / back navigation. Curiously, mplayer can play the raw .nuv fine (with a bunch of seeking).

[23:24:40]

sphery:

(just trying to find out for sure which distros misconfigure their MySQL servers)

[23:24:56]

kormoc:

sphery, more then just Gentoo eh?

[23:25:01]

test1:

sphery: actually, i'm in trouble with nuvexport instal .. but i do have myth installed :) (took me a week ! lol)

[23:25:05]

sphery:

denos: nuv, so from a frame grabber, then?

[23:25:19]

sphery:

kormoc: so far just Gentoo

[23:25:21]

denos:

Doesn't everyone use Gentoo?!

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gbee:

sphery: http://www.pastebin.ca/1292663

[23:26:01]

sphery:

test1: yeah, nuvexport takes some work (since it relies on external packages that change a lot)

[23:26:03]

kormoc:

denos, thank god not!

[23:26:15]

test1:

sphery: (i'm Opensuse 11.0 KDE 4.04)

[23:26:23]

sphery:

gbee: thx... guess I just lied to kormoc, then...

[23:26:30]

** kormoc laughs **

[23:26:31]

gbee:

sphery: why's that?

[23:26:38]

sphery:

gbee: did you edit your mysql config or are you using the default for Mandriva?

[23:26:48]

test1:

any help for installing nuvexport on suse welcome ! :)

[23:27:13]

gbee:

sphery: default

[23:27:33]

gbee:

db charset for my 0.21 database is latin1 (as it should be)

[23:29:13]

sphery:

gbee: Gentoo sets the character-set-server and default-character-set for [mysqld] to utf8. With 0.21-fixes and below, that means that characters get written to the DB incorrectly (they're unconverted from utf-8 because they're transferred as utf8 over a utf8 connection and the server then converts to latin1 to write to the DB).

[23:29:51]

test1:

YEAAAAAAH ! it works !

[23:29:53]

sphery:

gbee: so, I should really ask you, if your system's my.cnf (i.e. /etc/mysql/my.cnf or /etc/my.cnf) specifies character-set-server

[23:30:06]

test1:

damn xmltv id .. all manually :)

[23:30:57]

gbee:

"grep character-set-server /etc/my.cnf" says no

[23:31:28]

gbee:

default-character-set = utf8

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sphery:

gbee: is default-character-set under [mysqld]?

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gbee:

[mysql] not [mysqld]

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test1:

thanks to dev team !! i've got a new tv :)) and i hope soon a new avi-recorder ... cause i'm not friend of nuv ... hard to convert ..

[23:33:18]

gbee:

there isn't a [mysqld]

[23:33:32]

sphery:

gbee: good, then mandriva's configured correctly.

[23:33:37]

sphery:

sorry for the false alarm :)

[23:33:39]

** kormoc blinks **

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xris:

test1: rpm should work fine for suse

[23:33:50]

kormoc:

no [mysqld] at all, that's weird

[23:34:18]

sphery:

all defaults?

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iamlindoro:

UGH

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test1:

xris : plz, what rpm ? any link for a poor newbie ?

[23:34:31]

kormoc:

yeah, it's all defaults, but weird

[23:34:32]

gbee:

kormoc: there is a mysqld_safe, since mandriva runs mysqld_safe instead of mysqld directly

[23:34:43]

kormoc:

ahh

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test1:

xris : r u saying me to DL 'nuvexport.rpm' ?

[23:35:46]

gbee:

"mysqld_safe is the recommended way to start a mysqld server on Unix and NetWare. mysqld_safe adds some safety features such as restarting the server when an error occurs and logging runtime information to an error log file."

[23:36:10]

iamlindoro:

So. I order this five piece bath giftset as a gift on Friday. because all of my shipping totals over $79 I buy their stupid Amazon Prime thing figuring it actually costs me less to join than to pay my shipping... today ONE of the five pieces from the gift set and three random things show up. Amazon's solution? They'll accept a return and I can purchase it again. Oh, and they'll give me free shipping. Which I already got

[23:36:10]

iamlindoro:

for signing up for their STUPID AMAZON PRIME

[23:36:15]

gbee:

http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/mysqld-safe.html

[23:36:48]

iamlindoro:

So now I have NO Christmas gift to give to this person, and the most I talked them up to was a $15 refund/credit. UGHHK:ASDHK:

[23:37:26]

gbee:

give them Amazon's CEO's head on a platter instead

[23:37:29]

iamlindoro:

Maybe one of our Seattle dwellers can go over to their corporate and kick someone in the teeth for me

[23:37:33]

gbee:

gift wrapped of course

[23:37:45]

test1:

iamlindoro: hi :) ; today is 24 ;find an idea & some time b4 night ..

[23:37:45]

iamlindoro:

1/5th of the head, and four random slices of head

[23:38:17]

test1:

(tommorow.. if u r in usa ..)

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sphery:

gbee: mine (an unmodified MySQL my-medium.cnf) has [mysqld] but not [mysqld_safe] section but since mysqld_safe is a shell script that calls mysqld, mysqld_safe still uses the settings from mysqld

[23:38:58]

iamlindoro:

Indeed, I'll have to find something, but I really wiped myself out on Christmas this year AND I am supposed to get my new bank card today and it hasn't shown yet. :( What a Christmas

[23:39:07]

gbee:

sphery: yeah, just a semantic difference

[23:39:36]

test1:

iamlindoro : u could make some cds ..

[23:39:51]

sphery:

iamlindoro: you could always give them a WD Green 1TB HDD--you've got plenty of extras lying around. Just do a quick format...

[23:39:58]

iamlindoro:

test1, The only problem with that is I'm not 13 years old, I'm expected to give actual decent gifts

[23:40:09]

test1:

lol

[23:40:12]

iamlindoro:

sphery, I'm told chicks dig RAM

[23:40:18]

sphery:

lol

[23:40:53]

test1:

iamlindoro: call afriend and ask for $$$ ! what r they for .. :)

[23:40:56]

iamlindoro:

Well, I got a new feature into Myth, that's fun at least

[23:41:09]

iamlindoro:

I'll have lots of time to develop more after I fail to give Christmas Presents

[23:41:14]

iamlindoro:

and become a social pariah

[23:41:18]

gbee:

I'm lucky this year in that everyone told me exactly what they wanted, only exception is my sister and since she's in the US until late January I've got an extra month to figure out what to get her :)

[23:41:25]

test1:

^ ^

[23:42:15]

gbee:

well Dad didn't tell me what he wanted, but he's easy, a bottle of Whisky should do it

[23:42:24]

test1:

iamlindoro : so it' time to change of mp4 .. and give it

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test1:

iamlindoro:u can offer holidays at mountain (skying) .. it let u about 50 days more to but it effectively ..

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test1:

but*

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test1:

buy* .. damn y

[23:45:40]

test1:

.. no more ideas :|

[23:46:23]

xris:

test1: sorry, a bit slow on reading things.. yes. could download the rpm from my site.. or just the tarball and "make install"..

[23:47:05]

test1:

:) link ?

[23:47:10]

test1:

xris: ?

[23:48:08]

denos:

sphery, That fixed it (stutter issue). Thanks! Now, since this happens with everything I record, is there something I can change to prevent the issue? This is a new setup which is getting the stream from a DCT-6200 via firewire.

[23:48:12]

test1:

lol.. damn now i've got to find him in www .. or wait other 30'

[23:49:21]

denos:

I can script the mythcommflag script to run daily but I'm hoping there's something I can do to prevent it from occuring in the first place.

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sphery:

denos: once you've run optimize_mythdb.pl (written by the super-talented xris), it will fix the DB so it doesn't happen anymore (unless the DB crashes or something). You can run optimize_mythdb.pl in a daily cron to help keep seektables from being corrupted by ensuring the tables are never crashed for more than one day...

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denos:

sphery: Great! Thanks again!

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iamlindoro:

test1, Well, you're right about one thing, time to get creative :)

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test1:

:)

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test1:

iamlindoro: man, i found & bought 5 presents today ..so u can do it ! :)

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test1:

chocolate !!!

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iamlindoro:

Had to spend a little time being furious, though. Wouldn't bother me if they were small things, but they were big gifts for family

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sphery:

test1: if you type "nuvexport" (no quotes) into Google and hit, "I'm Feeling Lucky", and read the page you go to, you'll have everything you need (including his website)

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test1:

sphery: ty :)

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test1:

iamlindoro : it's ok so, u know them well, u'll find :))

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test1:

(gl)

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