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| [00:00:11] | iamlindoro: | what the hell, there's always some iamlindorounderscoreunderscoreunderscore popping in and out of here |
| [00:00:46] | ** iamlindoro smashes his laptop with that hammer ** | |
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| [00:01:41] | iamlindoro: | There, that'll show the bastard |
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| [00:12:56] | iamlindoro: | I think that clarke.freenode.net is probably the least stable freenode server of all |
| [00:15:52] | purserj: | win 47 |
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| [00:19:04] | Dagmar: | I begin to think I should just set a hook to respond to *any* walls from drwaters with "/server 0" |
| [00:19:44] | wagnerrp: | well at least there was a notification beforehand |
| [00:19:57] | wagnerrp: | rather than the more common unexpected split |
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| [00:54:26] | SHADOW__X: | hey iamlindoro would you say that you get about 70 percent of channels normally over firewire off the box |
| [00:54:41] | SHADOW__X: | 70 % of total channels |
| [00:57:30] | GreyFoxx: | There is no hard and fast rule |
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| [00:57:48] | GreyFoxx: | I get 100% of my channels on the STB via firewire. Other get onlya few, others none |
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| [01:01:22] | SHADOW__X: | hmm ok well i am having issues with my stb itself not having all my channels just yet |
| [01:01:33] | nomin: | was codec is needed to play .nuv files with mplayer? |
| [01:01:40] | nomin: | *what codec |
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| [01:01:45] | SHADOW__X: | so hopefully that wil resolve most of my issues but i am getting a decent amount so far more than just qam |
| [01:01:55] | SHADOW__X: | and thanks GreyFoxx for your response |
| [01:02:03] | wagnerrp: | i believe nuppel files are usually rtjpeg |
| [01:02:20] | GreyFoxx: | I thought the default was mpeg4 |
| [01:02:34] | GreyFoxx: | but a user can pick it in the recording/transcoding profiles |
| [01:03:01] | nomin: | I mean the audio. mplayer can play the videos just fine but mplayer and other video players cannot play the audio. |
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| [01:03:25] | GreyFoxx: | nomi: It's just mp3 audio |
| [01:03:49] | nomin: | GreyFoxx: I have mythtv set to record raw. |
| [01:05:01] | wagnerrp: | well if its raw, then its just a PCM stream from the sound card |
| [01:05:49] | nomin: | I've always been able to play them but this version of mandriva I'm on is probably missing some kind of codec. |
| [01:06:22] | nomin: | mplayer says what format it is but it's in some strange hex format. |
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| [01:07:11] | nomin: | "Cannot find codec for audio format 0x41574152" |
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| [01:50:52] | source_code: | i have a mythtv 0.20 backend with a xbox mythfrontend. everything is working fine but i just noticed today that every time i try to use my newly installed mythfrontend on another computer while my xbox frontend is running. there is a message that the tuner is in use. as far as i know mythtv is suppose to support multiple frontends.....? |
| [01:53:12] | iamlindoro: | It supports multiple frontends fine, but only one frontend can use a tuner at a time |
| [01:53:43] | hads: | Which makes sense |
| [01:55:06] | iamlindoro: | agreed |
| [01:55:47] | squish102: | but both frontends should be able to play recordings |
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| [01:56:35] | hads: | And .21 has that little popup menu from memory. |
| [01:56:35] | iamlindoro: | yes, but that's not what he's talking about-- the "tuners in use" message only comes up w/ LiveTV |
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| [02:08:09] | cva: | Since upgrading to .21 directv.pl no longers works correctly within mythtv to control my directv receiver. From the command line all is well. I'm wondering if .21 is expecting a different return value than previous versions from the external channel change command. |
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| [02:11:19] | source_code: | i am getting tuner in use message. is this expected or something i am missing that needs work? |
| [02:12:20] | iamlindoro: | source_code: we answered you immediately after you asked your question |
| [02:12:26] | iamlindoro: | 20 minutes ago |
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| [02:13:08] | source_code: | i am sorry. i was trying to get my 4 yr old into bed. hez still awake. late late for him.... |
| [02:13:15] | iamlindoro: | so read back |
| [02:13:24] | iamlindoro: | it's only like 15 lines ago |
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| [02:13:41] | msphobia: | anyone having troubles with mythfrontend from latest trunk svn? I updated yesterday and now mythfrontend doesn't do anything.... doesn't crash, just does its usual startup stuff, then sits with nothing on screen, with the last log messages being |
| [02:13:41] | msphobia: | 2008-07–09 22:06:27.922 mythfrontend version: 0.22.20080707–1 www.mythtv.org |
| [02:13:41] | msphobia: | 2008-07–09 22:06:27.922 Enabled verbose msgs: important general |
| [02:14:03] | source_code: | ok |
| [02:14:57] | source_code: | so does that mean that only one frontend at a time should be able to play live tv provided there is only one tuner on the backend |
| [02:15:06] | iamlindoro: | correct |
| [02:15:41] | source_code: | that makes sense. and makes the master backend and slave backend make more sense too. |
| [02:15:45] | source_code: | pretty clever |
| [02:16:12] | wagnerrp: | well slave backends are only really needed if you cant fit enough tuners in a single machine |
| [02:16:29] | wagnerrp: | or, if you want more power to do transcoding/commercial detection |
| [02:16:50] | Dagmar: | Well, not quite |
| [02:17:15] | Dagmar: | If you have two frontends and one tuner, you can watch LiveTV on both, provided they are both watching the same thing. |
| [02:18:08] | wagnerrp: | or, if its digital, you can have multiple virtual tuners, to allow multiple channels on a single multiplex |
| [02:18:19] | iamlindoro: | That's not right. If the single tuner is being used for live TV, the second frontend will pop up the "all tuners in use" message AFAIK |
| [02:18:38] | wagnerrp: | yeah, only one can be used for live tv at a given time |
| [02:18:46] | wagnerrp: | the other has to access it through recordings |
| [02:18:54] | iamlindoro: | That's right |
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| [02:20:44] | source_code: | any way, live tv using a single tuner for multiple frontends, could be or has been achieved? |
| [02:21:05] | iamlindoro: | source_code: has not been, will not be |
| [02:21:17] | wagnerrp: | with analog, no (unless of course it is a dual tuner card like a PVR-500) |
| [02:21:35] | wagnerrp: | iamlindoro: you cant do it with digital either? even though its indexed as multiple tuners? |
| [02:21:38] | iamlindoro: | you can watch live TV on one, and on the record go into watch recordings and watch what the first is watching, but both can't run "liveTV" at the same time with one tuner |
| [02:22:02] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp: yeah, with a digital tuner set to max recordings = 2 or greater, you can watch the same mux |
| [02:22:30] | iamlindoro: | since myth interprets that as 2 encoders |
| [02:22:45] | iamlindoro: | what I can't tell you is what will happen when one of those users tries to change channels to a new mux |
| [02:22:59] | Dagmar: | HEAD ASPLODE! |
| [02:23:19] | iamlindoro: | likely :) |
| [02:23:26] | wagnerrp: | you instantly get teleported into whatever show youre watching |
| [02:29:32] | Dagmar: | YAY FOR PPV PORNO! |
| [02:32:38] | wagnerrp: | sadly, you can only get PPV through cablecard tuners, or possibly firewire |
| [02:32:51] | wagnerrp: | does firewire have the same multiplex capability? |
| [02:33:07] | iamlindoro: | no, single record only |
| [02:33:20] | iamlindoro: | erm, sorry, maybe you didn't mean multirec |
| [02:33:33] | wagnerrp: | multirec, yes |
| [02:34:33] | wagnerrp: | well it seems someone has finally gone and made a dildo attachment for the wiimote |
| [02:35:16] | hads: | If you try to change channels to a different transponder it will just fail to change channel. |
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| [02:40:07] | Dagmar: | wagnerrp: I have yet to be able to find screenshots for Wii Love |
| [02:40:17] | Dagmar: | ...although this is far from the first game attachment of this type. |
| [02:40:39] | Dagmar: | Heck, there's drivers for the accessory that came with Rez in Japan, for the Linux kernel. |
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| [02:58:21] | wagnerrp: | im confused as to what the 'his dildo' is supposed to be for |
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| [03:01:41] | Dagmar: | I don't even want to know. |
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| [04:06:55] | clever: | 111% Completed @ 4.5462 fps. |
| [04:06:57] | clever: | wtf! |
| [04:09:58] | iamlindoro: | This is what you get for running Myth on GladOS |
| [04:10:25] | iamlindoro: | But since your most recent game console is a SNES, I don't expect you to get that one :) |
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| [04:12:53] | clever: | :P |
| [04:13:17] | clever: | how exactly is the distro related to the mythtranscoding breaking 100%? |
| [04:13:38] | iamlindoro: | If you knew what GladOS was, you'd know the answer to that-- she *crazy* |
| [04:13:50] | clever: | im googling it right now:P |
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| [04:14:41] | clever: | sounds like a character in a game |
| [04:14:56] | iamlindoro: | yup |
| [04:15:05] | clever: | ive gone thru all of hl and hl2 |
| [04:15:08] | clever: | a couple times |
| [04:15:15] | iamlindoro: | but apparently not Portal |
| [04:15:21] | clever: | havent heard of portal:P |
| [04:15:36] | iamlindoro: | How does one go through HalfLife 2 without also owning Portal? |
| [04:15:39] | clever: | never got 'the orange box' |
| [04:15:44] | iamlindoro: | well that was silly |
| [04:15:57] | clever: | half my problem |
| [04:16:03] | clever: | 95% of my systems are linux |
| [04:16:10] | clever: | wine doesnt handle games very well |
| [04:16:14] | iamlindoro: | So? I only played portal on Linux |
| [04:16:25] | clever: | wine/cegeda? |
| [04:16:28] | iamlindoro: | all the Source engine stuff plays fine in Wine |
| [04:16:35] | clever: | or has valve finaly started releasing native linux binarys |
| [04:16:48] | clever: | ah |
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| [04:18:22] | clever: | sounds like an interesting game |
| [04:18:55] | iamlindoro: | Easily the best part of the Orange Box |
| [04:19:13] | clever: | 88mb free |
| [04:19:16] | clever: | Need to get 33.9MB of archives. |
| [04:19:16] | clever: | After unpacking 106MB of additional disk space will be used. |
| [04:19:17] | iamlindoro: | and probably the funniest game I've ever played |
| [04:19:56] | clever: | `calc 106+33.9 |
| [04:19:56] | clever: | 106+33.9 == 139.9 |
| [04:20:01] | clever: | still short 1mb |
| [04:20:28] | clever: | found 20mb |
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| [04:24:14] | clever: | iamlindoro: so you think half my bugs will go away if i dont use ubuntu? |
| [04:24:40] | iamlindoro: | I think half of your bugs will go away if you are not allowed to patch or midfy any code, every again ;) |
| [04:24:48] | iamlindoro: | er modify |
| [04:24:52] | iamlindoro: | ever again |
| [04:25:02] | clever: | atleast 2 of the patches have fixed bugs |
| [04:25:22] | clever: | mythcommflag would put out a list of commflag points early on |
| [04:25:23] | iamlindoro: | and how many have you caused by "getting bored and removing stuff"? |
| [04:25:24] | clever: | that was empty |
| [04:25:37] | iamlindoro: | and don't make me check the logs for the confession on that one |
| [04:25:37] | clever: | mythfrontend blindly tryed to use an array element that didnt exist |
| [04:25:40] | clever: | causing an abort() |
| [04:25:53] | clever: | i undid those parts when done:P |
| [04:26:09] | iamlindoro: | mmhm |
| [04:26:10] | clever: | i was trying to make the video decoding faster so i removed peices of sse assembly |
| [04:26:22] | clever: | and i had to remove multiple lines before i even broke it |
| [04:26:48] | Dagmar: | *headdesk* |
| [04:26:48] | clever: | im surprised the jumps didnt go haywire, they looked precalculated |
| [04:27:04] | clever: | and svn diff claims the file is unmoded now |
| [04:27:11] | Dagmar: | Precalculated jumps, in source code. |
| [04:27:18] | clever: | Dagmar: in assembly |
| [04:27:24] | clever: | id have to refind it |
| [04:27:35] | Dagmar: | Don't bother. I don't want to know. |
| [04:27:39] | clever: | kk |
| [04:28:14] | clever: | now to put my ~/.wine on nfs so i can install a big fat steam game |
| [04:28:34] | clever: | ive ran call of duty with the WHOLE DAMN SYSTEM on nfs before so dont say this will break it:P |
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| [04:39:30] | SHADOW__X: | iamlindoro does the firewire node change when you reboot when using a stb |
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| [04:41:50] | wagnerrp: | why not just put ~/ on nfs? |
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| [05:00:36] | clever: | wagnerrp: i want the laptop to still work without the network |
| [05:00:45] | clever: | wagnerrp: but wine is a minor thing i can do without when away from home |
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| [06:45:14] | SHADOW__X: | hello everyone |
| [06:45:41] | SHADOW__X: | hey iamlindoro |
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| [08:22:01] | achew22: | what table in the db tracks upcoming records? i.e. what should I make a backup of before I redo my mythbox? |
| [08:25:11] | Agrajag-: | the whole db |
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| [08:49:03] | fryfrog: | achew22: recorded and record are one of a few of the key tables |
| [08:49:16] | achew22: | good, I got the right ones then |
| [08:49:42] | achew22: | thank you fryfrog |
| [08:49:49] | clever: | record i beleive is the rules |
| [08:49:54] | fryfrog: | but i thin if it were me, i'd backup the whole db |
| [08:49:58] | clever: | recorded is what you allready have |
| [08:50:05] | fryfrog: | then you can restore only the tables you need, but won't be farked if you forgot one |
| [08:50:13] | clever: | and youll want channels also for the rules to survive with any usefullness |
| [08:50:21] | clever: | and then half the ones explaining input cards |
| [08:50:29] | clever: | simpler to just get the whole thing |
| [08:50:44] | achew22: | I have to put the backup on my old laptop with 200mb of spare disk space, the DB was 350mb |
| [08:50:44] | fryfrog: | yeah, spose if you don't use "any channel" you'd really need that table too |
| [08:50:53] | fryfrog: | achew22: bzip2 it |
| [08:50:57] | fryfrog: | text compresses really well |
| [08:51:01] | achew22: | I'm done now |
| [08:51:21] | clever: | yeah bzip2 does alot better for text |
| [08:51:23] | fryfrog: | well, next time instead of mysqldump > file.sql, do mysqldump | bzip2 > file.sql.bz2 |
| [08:51:24] | clever: | and is alot slower |
| [08:51:39] | clever: | fryfrog: mythbackend should be patched for that:P |
| [08:51:42] | fryfrog: | you'll end up with like 5–10mb file instead of 300mb |
| [08:51:49] | clever: | ive seen it not do that before when updating the db |
| [08:51:51] | fryfrog: | the BE doesn't dump files? |
| [08:52:05] | fryfrog: | oh, it backs up the db when it upgrades? |
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| [08:52:09] | achew22: | now I have to deal with the fact that I think the cdrom drive is broken in this computer |
| [08:52:18] | clever: | fryfrog: yes i have several upgrade files laying arround |
| [08:52:23] | sid3windr: | with the fact that you think.. ;) |
| [08:52:25] | fryfrog: | humm, where does it put them? |
| [08:52:35] | achew22: | wow, I seriously woke up the channel... |
| [08:52:37] | clever: | 6 of them atm |
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| [08:52:46] | clever: | fryfrog: in my recording dir |
| [08:52:54] | fryfrog: | sql in their name? |
| [08:52:56] | clever: | i think ive also see traces of a storage group for them |
| [08:52:59] | clever: | yep |
| [08:53:04] | clever: | /media/mainlv/mythtv/mythconverg-1209–20080218191940.sql.bz2 /media/mainlv/mythtv/mythconverg-1212–20080307051409.sql.bz2 |
| [08:53:13] | clever: | database version number and exact date/time |
| [08:53:14] | fryfrog: | guess i don't have any |
| [08:53:29] | clever: | i also had problems with it failing |
| [08:53:33] | fryfrog: | are you -fixes or trunk? |
| [08:53:38] | clever: | trunk |
| [08:53:45] | clever: | i screwed the mythweather tables up(innodb) |
| [08:53:54] | fryfrog: | i wonder if it exists in -fixes |
| [08:53:57] | clever: | half the system claimed they existed and half refused to beleive that fact |
| [08:54:13] | clever: | so the dump of all tables would fail because one of the tables that exists didnt exist:P |
| [08:54:27] | fryfrog: | ah |
| [08:54:52] | clever: | the innodb data is stored seperately from the myisam data |
| [08:55:04] | clever: | so when i shuffled the mythconverg between a few systems |
| [08:55:06] | clever: | i broke all the innodb tables |
| [08:55:17] | fryfrog: | so what actually *is* the difference between innodb and myisam? |
| [08:55:35] | fryfrog: | i believe one is "old and busted" and one is "new hotness" no? |
| [08:55:41] | clever: | some special key stuff i think |
| [08:55:46] | clever: | which mythweather needed to function |
| [08:58:46] | clever: | and i cant even get it to function to begin with so i just dont use it |
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| [12:45:48] | sohocoke__: | yay, got the backend to work!! |
| [12:45:52] | sohocoke__: | i'm so excited |
| [12:48:07] | sid3windr: | and you just can't hide it |
| [12:53:34] | webvictim: | i'm about to lose control and i think i like it! |
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| [13:01:27] | sohocoke__: | so i think my next step should be to configure xmltv for uk |
| [13:01:56] | sohocoke__: | the wiki mentions tv_grab_uk_rt but there doesn't seem to be this script on my mythbuntu installation. where do i go? |
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| [13:17:22] | Dagmar: | Google. |
| [13:18:57] | sohocoke__: | dagmar, i make sure i google for straightforward answers before asking questions on irc. |
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| [13:20:46] | Dagmar: | So the phrase "xmltv" is entirely new to you? |
| [13:21:16] | Dagmar: | 'cuz I would have thought the fourth hit in Google for "tv_grab_uk_rt" would have been a pretty strong hint that it's part of the xmltv package |
| [13:21:36] | Dagmar: | Ya just gotta look closer at the results for something more than just a "download it here" link |
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| [13:33:56] | stu: | Hi, I get a segmentation fault when I quit live tv and the front end crashes – all I get in the logs is "segmentation fault" is there some way I can find out more info about this crash ? |
| [13:34:34] | stu: | the front end on this machine is crashing... the front end on the remote backend is working fine – so I suspect its something to do with this front end |
| [13:35:34] | stu: | it occurs straight after – 2008-07–10 14:31:36.838 DPMS Reactivated. |
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| [13:50:46] | RyeBrye: | I changed my backend IP... where do I change things so mythweb knows the new IP? is it in the db somewhere? (I'm getting the 'Unable to connect to the master backend at ...' message) |
| [13:52:09] | GreyFoxx: | run mythtv-setup |
| [13:52:15] | GreyFoxx: | General, first page I believe |
| [13:52:47] | RyeBrye: | ok. I can do that. I was wondering if there was something I could do via ssh though, 'cause I'm extremely lazy :) |
| [13:53:00] | RyeBrye: | but I guess that's not too hard |
| [13:54:23] | clever: | its also in the db in a few places |
| [13:54:47] | clever: | | value | data | hostname | |
| [13:54:58] | clever: | | BackendServerIP | 192.168.1.60 | theP4 | |
| [13:55:04] | clever: | | BackendServerPort | 6543 | theP4 | |
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| [13:55:19] | clever: | | MasterServerIP | 192.168.1.60 | NULL | |
| [13:55:25] | clever: | | MasterServerPort | 6543 | NULL | |
| [13:55:40] | clever: | (settings table) |
| [13:55:48] | RyeBrye: | cool, thanks |
| [13:56:20] | clever: | when finding the master it looks up MasterServerIP and MasterServerPort for its own hostname(which should allways fail) |
| [13:56:29] | clever: | then it falls back to the global setting under the NULL hostname |
| [13:56:54] | clever: | and for a server to become master the BackendServerIP for it must match the MasterServerIP |
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| [15:00:06] | hadees: | this thing is crazy, http://usb.brando.com.hk/prod_detail.php?prod_id=00561 |
| [15:00:31] | hadees: | i love the idea but who is going to pop in HDs like VHS tapes |
| [15:00:54] | sid3windr: | why not? :P |
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| [15:01:41] | hadees: | sid3windr, well generally i don't think hard drives were designed to be handled that way, they need some sort of case to protect them |
| [15:02:15] | sid3windr: | why is that? |
| [15:02:40] | sid3windr: | evidently you're not supposed to pour hot soup over them |
| [15:02:42] | sid3windr: | but otherwise? |
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| [15:19:24] | GreyFoxx: | As long as you don't drop the drive it would be fine |
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| [15:33:33] | sid3windr: | GreyFoxx: yes, but a case around it would not really help a lot there |
| [15:33:39] | sid3windr: | you're not supposed to drop that anyway ;) |
| [15:34:05] | wagnerrp: | but you CAN drop kick them |
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| [15:35:59] | kslater: | any suggestions for an inexpensive case that looks like it belongs next to an audio receiver? |
| [15:37:05] | wagnerrp: | check out the antec fusion and NSK (2460 i think) series |
| [15:40:16] | kslater: | not a bad choice but too much coin (I found NSK 2480) |
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| [15:46:08] | wagnerrp: | youre just not going to get a worthwhile HTPC case for much less than $100 |
| [15:46:19] | kslater: | yeah, seems that way |
| [15:46:27] | wagnerrp: | silverstone has a handful of models in that range |
| [15:46:34] | wagnerrp: | as well as the thermaltake bach line |
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| [15:47:59] | wagnerrp: | im just an antec pusher personally |
| [15:48:08] | kslater: | hehe |
| [15:48:22] | kslater: | I have a very nice antec PS that a buddy saved from the dumpster |
| [15:48:35] | kslater: | very quiet and well cooled |
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| [15:52:36] | selmanj: | what cases are good for frontends? |
| [15:52:55] | selmanj: | i have a huge urge to buy a mac mini, but it costs slightly more than my mythbackend did |
| [15:53:17] | iamlindoro_: | The mini *is* a fantastic frontend, you ouldn't regret it if you went that way |
| [15:53:22] | iamlindoro_: | er wouldn't |
| [15:56:51] | i_is_cat: | my music doesnt stream over the network do i have to do the nfs mount thing for it like i did with the videos? |
| [15:57:04] | iamlindoro_: | yes, myth only streams recordings/liveTV |
| [15:57:12] | i_is_cat: | thanks iamlindoro :) |
| [15:57:17] | iamlindoro_: | np |
| [15:57:46] | i_is_cat: | i need more tuner cards i only get like 60min a day to watch tv on this thing :S |
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| [15:59:25] | sid3windr: | iamlindoro_: on that subject, did I read correctly that there were going to be some changes in terms of streaming music/video files? |
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| [15:59:44] | iamlindoro_: | sid3windr: It's been talked about, but nothing implemented (or started AFAIK) |
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| [16:00:05] | sid3windr: | aha |
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| [16:02:31] | achew22: | does the sleep timer in myth work? |
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| [16:05:10] | i_is_cat: | my recordings seem to be recording 5min early and stopping 5min late would that have to do with the time set on the pc itself? |
| [16:05:25] | i_is_cat: | stopping 5min early i mean it starts and stops early |
| [16:05:46] | iamlindoro_: | yes, myth controls recordings by the date/time set on the backend |
| [16:05:56] | iamlindoro_: | so if that's off by five, so will your recodings be |
| [16:05:58] | iamlindoro_: | er recordings |
| [16:06:22] | i_is_cat: | ok ty :) |
| [16:06:36] | iamlindoro_: | sure |
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| [16:06:53] | PatrickDK: | I hate all the tv channels that have their time off :( |
| [16:08:41] | MartinCleaver: | SHADOW__X: how do you test the analog tuner on your HVR-1800? |
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| [16:35:54] | Dishivlatavish: | Hi. Using Knoppmyth R5F27. Just compiled mythtv 0.21 fixes from svn and now mythweb doesn't work (database error) |
| [16:36:40] | iamlindoro_: | Did you also install/compile your plugins from source? |
| [16:36:44] | Dishivlatavish: | yeah |
| [16:36:52] | iamlindoro_: | and did you follow the mythweb readme? |
| [16:36:52] | Dishivlatavish: | plugins and themes |
| [16:37:01] | iamlindoro_: | (ie make install does not install mythweb) |
| [16:37:02] | xris: | Dishivlatavish: what db error? |
| [16:37:26] | Dishivlatavish: | xris: it says "Database Setup Error The database environment variables are not correctly set in the webserver conf or .htaccess file. Please read through the comments included in the file and set up the db_* environment variable" |
| [16:37:47] | Dishivlatavish: | I manually copied mythweb directory to /usr/share/mythtv and changed permissions... |
| [16:37:59] | Dishivlatavish: | I had .htaccess setup before |
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| [16:38:15] | xris: | Dishivlatavish: so you upgraded from .20 to .21? |
| [16:38:19] | Dishivlatavish: | yep |
| [16:38:21] | iamlindoro_: | read the mythweb readme, this is covered there |
| [16:38:23] | xris: | did you read the mythweb INSTALL file? |
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| [16:38:33] | xris: | mythweb setup has changed quite a bit between .20 and .21 |
| [16:39:02] | Dishivlatavish: | yes. it said config mythweb.conf.apache |
| [16:39:19] | xris: | and kill .htaccess |
| [16:39:30] | Dishivlatavish: | xris: how do I do that? |
| [16:39:32] | xris: | also says to *install* the conf file into your apache config |
| [16:39:42] | xris: | kill == remove == delete |
| [16:39:47] | Dishivlatavish: | so I just copy it to /etc/apache2? |
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| [16:40:09] | Dishivlatavish: | it's been a while since I fiddled with my mythbox. Where's the .htaccess file again? |
| [16:41:38] | GreyFoxx: | It's in the mythwebconfig file you include in your apache config |
| [16:41:46] | GreyFoxx: | It's not done as a seperate file anymore |
| [16:41:59] | Dishivlatavish: | ok. How do I kill the old htaccess config? |
| [16:42:05] | GreyFoxx: | rm .htaccess |
| [16:42:07] | GreyFoxx: | ? |
| [16:42:08] | xris: | Dishivlatavish: read the INSTALL file. it should give you enough info about how to install the conf file |
| [16:42:11] | GreyFoxx: | Backup first :) |
| [16:42:12] | Dishivlatavish: | k |
| [16:42:22] | xris: | Dishivlatavish: .htaccess lives in the mythweb directory next to mythweb.php |
| [16:42:44] | Dishivlatavish: | well it's not there in the new mythweb |
| [16:42:59] | GreyFoxx: | read the INSTALL file :) |
| [16:43:04] | Dishivlatavish: | k |
| [16:43:29] | xris: | Dishivlatavish: no, it's not. I just assumed you'd copied it over since you talked about it earlier |
| [16:44:04] | Dishivlatavish: | erp. I didn't. I just replaced the old mythweb with the new one. |
| [16:44:20] | Dishivlatavish: | reading the INSTALL doc... |
| [16:44:32] | xris: | Dishivlatavish: that's fine. now read INSTALL for how to configure it and install the conf file into apache |
| [16:44:36] | Dishivlatavish: | k |
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| [16:48:51] | cesman: | xris: thanks |
| [16:48:56] | xris: | ? |
| [16:48:57] | Dishivlatavish: | I modified the file and copied it over to /etc/apache2/conf.d/mythweb.conf and restarted apache, but now I get 500 error |
| [16:48:59] | cesman: | Dishivlatavish: you left the channel too fast |
| [16:49:09] | Dishivlatavish: | hey CESMAN! |
| [16:49:15] | xris: | Dishivlatavish: and what error shows up in your server logs? |
| [16:49:19] | Dishivlatavish: | hang on... |
| [16:49:21] | ** cesman has to go... ** | |
| [16:49:34] | cesman: | Dishivlatavish: backup and auto upgrade |
| [16:49:58] | Dishivlatavish: | cesman: too much work man!I'll rebuild a new HD-PVR in a couple of months anyways... |
| [16:50:37] | Dishivlatavish: | apache error.log says [Thu Jul 10 11:48:21 2008] [error] [client 192.168.1.10] (2)No such file or directory: Could not open password file: /var/www/htdigest, referer: http://mythtv/ |
| [16:51:00] | Dishivlatavish: | there is no /var/www/htdigest... |
| [16:52:16] | Dishivlatavish: | xris: I'm reading htdigest manpage. Should I call the command?" |
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| [16:54:25] | xris: | sounds like you left auth turned on |
| [16:54:30] | xris: | or turned it on |
| [16:54:30] | Dishivlatavish: | yeah |
| [16:54:45] | xris: | you just need to create an htdigest file and point your mythweb conf to it |
| [16:55:02] | Dishivlatavish: | k |
| [16:55:38] | Dishivlatavish: | xris:what's a "realm" in htdigest? |
| [16:58:39] | Dishivlatavish: | well I turned it off for now, and it works :), but I do still have htaccess setup for the apache server itself... |
| [16:59:08] | Dishivlatavish: | correction: No authentication |
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| [17:01:36] | Dishivlatavish: | anywho. It works for now, so thanks for all the help :) |
| [17:03:31] | Dishivlatavish: | hey, where'd mythweather go? |
| [17:05:26] | iamlindoro_: | Still the same place it always has been-- but, as always, like mythvideo and music, it has to be configured on a frontend first before it will work in mythweb |
| [17:06:01] | iamlindoro_: | and wince mythweather on .21 is a total rewrite, your old settings won't work |
| [17:06:03] | iamlindoro_: | er since |
| [17:06:04] | Dishivlatavish: | gotcha. Doing that now... |
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| [17:12:07] | MartinCleaver: | which is the channel to ask q about testing the analog receiver in my HVR-1800? |
| [17:12:47] | iamlindoro_: | analog tuners are handled in #v4l |
| [17:12:56] | iamlindoro_: | and use the word "tuner" instad |
| [17:13:00] | iamlindoro_: | er instead |
| [17:13:04] | iamlindoro_: | so that they don't thi k you're silly |
| [17:13:07] | MartinCleaver: | cool. ta :) |
| [17:13:58] | Dishivlatavish: | hey what happened to the cool doppler map thingie in mythweather? Was it taken out of 0.21??? |
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| [17:14:38] | iamlindoro_: | Mythweather pulls from entirely different sources now because it had to be reimplemented |
| [17:14:53] | speedsix_: | Hi all |
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| [17:16:00] | speedsix_: | is there a list anywhere of which revisions the database schema versions changed? |
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| [17:21:12] | joomla_user: | good day |
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| [17:21:42] | iamlindoro_: | no, chess isn't ready yet |
| [17:21:44] | joomla_user: | can someone help me with mythtv |
| [17:21:56] | iamlindoro_: | nor can you install MePo |
| [17:22:15] | joomla_user: | how about virtual fishing game for mythtv |
| [17:22:22] | iamlindoro_: | nope |
| [17:23:11] | iamlindoro_: | I thought all you swedes were too busy having sex with each other to waste time trolling IRC |
| [17:23:15] | sid3windr: | how about frets on fire in mythtv! |
| [17:23:42] | joomla_user: | i am at work |
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| [17:24:00] | iamlindoro_: | Well, wouldn't want to do any work there |
| [17:24:45] | joomla_user: | boss has gone home, and i finished already . just that you get payed by hour not by work |
| [17:25:00] | iamlindoro_: | fair enough |
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| [17:26:28] | iamlindoro_: | I say find some buxom svenska flicka and bend her over the copy machine, I'm sure I've heard that's what you guys are all about |
| [17:26:50] | joomla_user: | you heard it right |
| [17:27:25] | devsforev: | Good afternoon everyone. Just recently, I noticed that MythMusic refuses to play any music for me. I hit play and the progress bar doesn't even move. I have my sound configured the same as the wiki sugguests under "Configuring Digital Sound with AC3 and SPDIF." Any thoughts? |
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| [17:28:54] | ** iamlindoro_ pats himself on the back for knowing the words "svenska flicka" ** | |
| [17:29:20] | joomla_user: | did you try playing in mplayer separate from myth |
| [17:30:14] | joomla_user: | or alternativly you could get an mp3 – player and listen to the music |
| [17:30:45] | joomla_user: | amlindoro_ svensk flicka |
| [17:30:53] | devsforev: | joomla_user: it works in mplayer just fine. |
| [17:31:19] | joomla_user: | do you pratice any kind of voodoo ? |
| [17:31:34] | devsforev: | not currently, no. should i start? |
| [17:31:50] | iamlindoro_: | This is going to require a chicken, I just know it |
| [17:31:58] | EvilGuru: | joomla_user: Twice daily; and my MythTV set-up has never been better |
| [17:32:25] | devsforev: | haha |
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| [17:46:26] | SHADOW__X: | hello everyone |
| [17:46:51] | joomla_user: | welcome |
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| [18:34:29] | sohocoke: | trying to get xmltv configured and it appears 'mythfilldatabase --manual' keeps hanging with message 'Connected to database 'mythconverg' at host: localhost'. what can I check for more leads? |
| [18:35:03] | clever: | sohocoke: -v database |
| [18:35:21] | sohocoke: | as options to mythfilldatabase? |
| [18:36:21] | sohocoke: | ah. it's stuck on an update.. |
| [18:37:11] | iamlindoro_: | how long have you bothered waiting? It can be many minutes with some updates/grabbers |
| [18:37:26] | sohocoke: | i think at least 10. |
| [18:37:39] | iamlindoro_: | keep waiting |
| [18:37:48] | sohocoke: | right. would around 3 hours be sufficient? |
| [18:37:54] | iamlindoro_: | more than :) |
| [18:37:55] | sohocoke: | (celeron 433. i know, don't ask) |
| [18:39:49] | sohocoke: | would be nice to at least monitor some mysql activity if i knew how |
| [18:40:24] | stuarta: | start with top |
| [18:40:26] | iamlindoro_: | just run "top" |
| [18:40:28] | iamlindoro_: | heh |
| [18:40:33] | stuarta: | SNAP |
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| [19:10:03] | sid3windr: | mm, nice, I just noticed mythtv can autoconfigure backend when you start the frontend for the first time :) |
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| [19:57:21] | SHADOW__X: | hey iamlindoro_ hows it goin heh |
| [20:00:32] | olejl: | Somebody willing to give me a hand with lirc? I'm struggeling... |
| [20:00:52] | SHADOW__X: | what remote olejl |
| [20:01:06] | olejl: | Zalman |
| [20:01:38] | olejl: | It is an Zalman HD160XT built in uirt receiver |
| [20:01:42] | SHADOW__X: | hmm |
| [20:01:48] | iamlindoro_: | The Zalman remote doesn't work with lirc |
| [20:02:01] | iamlindoro_: | rather, the receiver doesn't, the remote is just an MCEUSB |
| [20:02:32] | SHADOW__X: | how do you like the display on that btw |
| [20:02:38] | olejl: | That is probably why I'm struggeling then... |
| [20:02:40] | iamlindoro_: | The company that makes that IT receiver forked their own versions of lirc and lcdproc and changed the names |
| [20:02:44] | iamlindoro_: | er IR |
| [20:03:02] | Dagmar: | They did what now? |
| [20:03:05] | Dagmar: | LIRC is GPL |
| [20:03:14] | SHADOW__X: | iamlindoro_ no wanna say hi i wasnt even gonna ask you a question |
| [20:03:21] | iamlindoro_: | yup, doesn't stop them from doing either thing |
| [20:03:26] | iamlindoro_: | forking or changing the names |
| [20:03:30] | Dagmar: | They're shipping source, right? |
| [20:03:33] | olejl: | The display is OK, but at the moment I have no real use for it... |
| [20:04:00] | iamlindoro_: | yes, but it's based on old LCDProc and LIRC |
| [20:04:10] | Dagmar: | OKay that's fine then |
| [20:04:20] | SHADOW__X: | hmm olejl i would display temps on that screen maybe a recording indicator orr a preview of whats recording |
| [20:04:21] | iamlindoro_: | It's also a pain in the arse because to get it working in 64 bit is a HUGE disaster |
| [20:04:22] | sid3windr: | is it a known issue if you feed mythtv-setup an (apparently?) invalid channels.conf it segfaults? |
| [20:04:25] | Dagmar: | Most companies would try to act like the damn thing is suddenly their trade secret |
| [20:04:30] | iamlindoro_: | http://www.irtrans.de/en/download/linux.php |
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| [20:04:41] | Dagmar: | Props to them for being responsible about it |
| [20:05:01] | iamlindoro_: | That's the forked stuff for the Zalman, it's a mess and god help you if you want it to coexist with regular lirc |
| [20:05:10] | Dagmar: | I'm about to launch a whirlwind on the people who make the biometric readers we're using at work |
| [20:05:12] | sid3windr: | or: isn't channels.conf generated by scandvb? my setup thing won't parse any it created :/ |
| [20:05:14] | iamlindoro_: | (although it *is* possible) |
| [20:05:38] | Dagmar: | They ARE running Linux, and the company isn't distributing source, or even _mentioning_ that they're running Linux |
| [20:05:42] | iamlindoro_: | sid3windr: I would do everything in my power to avoid importing channels.conf, it seems to only work a minority of the time |
| [20:05:45] | Dagmar: | F**king chinamen |
| [20:05:47] | iamlindoro_: | SHADOW__X: sorry, hello there |
| [20:05:58] | sid3windr: | iamlindoro_: well apparently scanning didn't really work so I'm trying the other way around :/ |
| [20:06:22] | olejl: | When i run: /usr/sbin/lircd -n -H uirt2 -d /dev/ttyUSB0 -o /dev/lircd and then start irw, I get: lircd-0.8.4-CVS[18794]: uirt2: timeout reading byte 3 when pressing a button on the remote |
| [20:06:29] | iamlindoro_: | scan -U /path/to/channeltuningfile > channels.conf should work, sid3windr |
| [20:06:33] | olejl: | But nothing is showing under irw |
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| [20:06:45] | iamlindoro_: | olejl: As I said, LIRC will *not* work with your zalman |
| [20:06:49] | iamlindoro_: | so stop trying |
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| [20:06:58] | iamlindoro_: | I even linked you to the correct tools |
| [20:07:46] | olejl: | Yes thank you. I looked into this tool before. Maybe I will try igain... |
| [20:07:52] | sid3windr: | iamlindoro_: "parsing failed" followed by segmentation fault :( |
| [20:08:01] | sid3windr: | meh. :) |
| [20:08:17] | iamlindoro_: | sid3windr: sounds like your tuning file is wrong, what are you trying to scan? |
| [20:08:18] | iamlindoro_: | and are you using a provided one, or one of your own? |
| [20:08:36] | sid3windr: | both one I downloaded and one created with w_scan |
| [20:08:43] | sid3windr: | which approximately contain the same data |
| [20:08:47] | iamlindoro_: | for what service? |
| [20:08:50] | sid3windr: | w_scan put a lot of AUTO while the other is more detailed |
| [20:08:52] | sid3windr: | belgian dvb-t |
| [20:08:53] | iamlindoro_: | and w/ what tuner |
| [20:09:47] | iamlindoro_: | What's wrong with the provided ones from dvb-utils for belgium? |
| [20:10:08] | iamlindoro_: | ie "/usr/share/doc/dvb-utils/examples/scan/dvb-t/be-*" |
| [20:10:11] | stuarta: | have you tried the channel scanner? |
| [20:10:18] | sid3windr: | iamlindoro_: apart from that there aren't any? |
| [20:10:28] | iamlindoro_: | sid3windr: incorrect, there are two |
| [20:10:33] | sid3windr: | not in my package |
| [20:10:36] | iamlindoro_: | be-St_Pieters_Leeuw be-Tournai |
| [20:10:44] | iamlindoro_: | then your package is too old :) |
| [20:10:46] | sid3windr: | well, both too far away from here |
| [20:10:52] | sid3windr: | I'm 1km from an antenna |
| [20:11:02] | sid3windr: | but I don't see how this can be a problem |
| [20:11:08] | sid3windr: | scanning finds the channels |
| [20:11:09] | stuarta: | sid3windr: have you tried mythtv's builtin channel scanner? |
| [20:11:13] | iamlindoro_: | AFAIK all belgian DVB-T signals have identical frequecies to one of those two |
| [20:11:23] | iamlindoro_: | and listen to stuarta, the Myth scanner is the best option by far |
| [20:11:27] | sid3windr: | stuarta: yes, that's how I did it at first, all my channels are there |
| [20:11:31] | sid3windr: | yet it cannot tune to any of them |
| [20:11:39] | sid3windr: | (through mythtv) |
| [20:11:50] | iamlindoro_: | wonder if Belgium is one of the "broken NIT" countries |
| [20:11:51] | sid3windr: | so I thought hm, something awry, let's try channels.conf way |
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| [20:12:34] | sid3windr: | anyway |
| [20:12:49] | sid3windr: | http://paste-it.net/public/db0348e/ is what I'm getting |
| [20:12:54] | sid3windr: | any pointers on fixing it? |
| [20:13:06] | sid3windr: | (though segfaulting on supposedly broken channels.conf is bad) |
| [20:13:21] | iamlindoro_: | backtrace and submit as a bug if it bothers you |
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| [20:14:17] | SHADOW__X: | is there a way to have mythweb display temps ? |
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| [20:14:35] | iamlindoro_: | yes, use a miscellaneous status script, check the contrib directory for scripts and install info |
| [20:14:42] | clever: | i think the backend status page(on port 6544) can do that if you have the right packages |
| [20:14:44] | iamlindoro_: | I assume you mean temps on your PC |
| [20:14:46] | clever: | and mythweb can show that page |
| [20:15:14] | iamlindoro_: | you don't need extra packages, just need to set a status script that works properly in mythtv-setup, and the scripts and info are in contrib |
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| [20:15:17] | sohocoke: | eh, still not getting how xmltv channel setup is done. is there somewhere i can pick up a complete xmltv configuration for uk freeview? |
| [20:15:57] | iamlindoro_: | no, you can't download "pre-made" XMLtv setups, you just need to configure your own script |
| [20:16:00] | SHADOW__X: | so iamlindoro_ it can be simple then |
| [20:16:09] | iamlindoro_: | yes, like I said, check contrib in the source |
| [20:16:09] | sid3windr: | iamlindoro_: I might :] |
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| [20:16:26] | sid3windr: | but anyone have any pointers on the pasted errors from my backend? |
| [20:16:47] | iamlindoro_: | sounds like your provider is advertising incorrect values which myth chokes on |
| [20:16:53] | iamlindoro_: | ie symbol rate 0 |
| [20:17:08] | sohocoke: | iamlindoro: is there a base config script somewhere? the one in http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Uk_xmltv is not working for me.. perhaps i don't have the right pre-conditions setup |
| [20:17:54] | iamlindoro_: | sohocoke: in general you configure your script with name_of_grabber --configure |
| [20:18:35] | iamlindoro_: | but xml grabbers aren't under the umbrella of myth, so you'd need to find a channel or forum for your particular script |
| [20:18:53] | sid3windr: | iamlindoro_: this is after a complete reinstall, card used to be in another box, with mythtv, with dvb-t, same multiplexes and all, and it worked :/ |
| [20:18:57] | sohocoke: | yeah i did that step. but it appears i need to assign channel numbers to all channels and i just couldn't do it manually |
| [20:19:30] | iamlindoro_: | sohocoke: again, seek help at a forum or channel dedicated to xmltv or your grabber, probably #xmltv |
| [20:20:13] | iamlindoro_: | sid3windr: There is no way I am going to be able to predict what you have changed between the boxes, I am telling you what myth doesn't like, I'm not responsible for what you've done before now |
| [20:21:13] | sid3windr: | yup |
| [20:21:15] | sid3windr: | okay :) |
| [20:22:17] | iamlindoro_: | If you have the transponder info, you can always do the tuned scan and give it the tp frequency, signal rate, etc., by hand |
| [20:22:19] | iamlindoro_: | in mythtv |
| [20:22:22] | sid3windr: | iamlindoro_: just 1 q, what country do I have to choose for the scan? |
| [20:22:27] | iamlindoro_: | and it will scan each transport and find all the channels |
| [20:22:28] | sid3windr: | or: why do I have to choose a country, at all |
| [20:22:46] | iamlindoro_: | sid3windr: because frequencies vary wildly by country |
| [20:22:58] | sid3windr: | ... but there's only like 5 countries listed :< |
| [20:23:20] | sid3windr: | I chose germany because it's closest. I'll fiddle some more without bugging you :) |
| [20:23:22] | iamlindoro_: | and usually one of the options works for other placs in that region (eg, us-cable works for canada) |
| [20:23:41] | iamlindoro_: | I still suggest you do what I said above |
| [20:23:57] | iamlindoro_: | find the transponder info for your area, including FEC and SR, and use the "tuned scan" in mythtv |
| [20:24:13] | iamlindoro_: | where you give it that info, then you scan existing transponders, and it will find all your channels with correct SR |
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| [20:25:17] | sid3windr: | okido |
| [20:26:41] | hadees: | i remember someone saying they were working on a native iphone client, anything come of that? |
| [20:27:34] | iamlindoro_: | People's ambitions are usually alrger than their abilities... he's probably one of the same guys who is "sure we can reduce LiveTV delay to 0" |
| [20:27:53] | clever: | iamlindoro_: i know of a way to do that:P |
| [20:28:01] | clever: | if you hack the drivers up right |
| [20:28:04] | iamlindoro_: | by not watching it in mythtv |
| [20:28:12] | clever: | you could framegrab the video right into the video card |
| [20:28:13] | iamlindoro_: | and even THEN there's no such thing as 0 delay |
| [20:28:18] | clever: | like a frame grabber was meant to be used |
| [20:28:25] | clever: | WHILE hardware encoding it to mpeg |
| [20:29:00] | clever: | the only major task is finding a card which can framegrab and mpeg2 encode at the same time |
| [20:29:04] | iamlindoro_: | clever: Until you submit a patch that allows delay-less liveTV for all, you're just one of the aforementioned dumbasses |
| [20:29:04] | clever: | with the same tuner |
| [20:29:24] | clever: | i have no idea how the internals of the pvr150 work so i cant patch it |
| [20:29:30] | iamlindoro_: | but if you want to tyr, the HVR-1800 will allow frame grab and encode simultaneously |
| [20:29:31] | clever: | and even if i did, half the work would be kernel side |
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| [20:29:45] | iamlindoro_: | there you go, partner, there's your next project |
| [20:29:49] | clever: | lol |
| [20:30:02] | clever: | i know some kernel programing |
| [20:30:03] | iamlindoro_: | but as always, you attempt to draw the conversation away from the actual POINT, sooooo |
| [20:30:12] | clever: | but the hard part is finding the data sheets to properly interface with the crap |
| [20:30:18] | iamlindoro_: | like I said, shitwits and their big myth plans |
| [20:30:37] | ** sid3windr entered a transport and chose "full scan of existing transport" to have mythtv-setup segfault again \o/ ** | |
| [20:30:38] | clever: | lol |
| [20:30:54] | iamlindoro_: | sid3windr: Multi-core system? |
| [20:30:57] | sid3windr: | yes |
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| [20:31:22] | sid3windr: | known problems? |
| [20:31:27] | clever: | iamlindoro_: that card is useless to me, no pcie slots |
| [20:31:38] | iamlindoro_: | IIRC there are some channel scan issues on multicore systems that cause segfaults, there's a workaround, just use a single processor at that time-- can't recall the command line, though |
| [20:31:48] | sid3windr: | hm |
| [20:31:53] | sid3windr: | you mean at boot time? |
| [20:32:01] | stuarta: | no |
| [20:32:03] | iamlindoro_: | no, I mean when running mythtv-setup |
| [20:32:05] | sid3windr: | ah |
| [20:32:05] | clever: | theres a thing thru /proc to limit a process to certain cores |
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| [20:32:17] | clever: | task manager has similar stuff in xp |
| [20:32:19] | iamlindoro_: | bah, someone mentioned it yesterday |
| [20:32:22] | stuarta: | it might be on the wiki somewhere |
| [20:32:37] | iamlindoro_: | gonna pull it from the logs |
| [20:32:53] | iamlindoro_: | unless someone beats me to it, which is fine |
| [20:33:12] | iamlindoro_: | taskset -c 0 mythtv-setup |
| [20:33:32] | clever: | ooo a new manpage to read! |
| [20:33:38] | sid3windr: | thanks iamlindoro_ |
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| [20:33:45] | iamlindoro_: | np, but no promises anyway :) |
| [20:34:23] | ** sid3windr fetches schedutils |-) ** | |
| [20:34:30] | stuarta: | heh |
| [20:34:42] | iamlindoro_: | that may or may not allow you to successfully import a channels.conf, btw, but try the myth scan thing first |
| [20:35:07] | sid3windr: | yeah, no segfault |
| [20:35:08] | clever: | from a glance at the manpage id think 'taskset -c 1 mythtv-setup' would be better |
| [20:35:12] | stuarta: | channels.conf is an evil last resort |
| [20:35:17] | clever: | but if im wrong youll just force it to the 2nd core |
| [20:36:15] | stuarta: | the point is to limit it to 1 core |
| [20:36:21] | iamlindoro_: | There's no reason whatsoever to do that |
| [20:36:27] | stuarta: | so that the threads won't step on each other |
| [20:36:29] | iamlindoro_: | ^^ yes, what stuarta sait |
| [20:36:32] | iamlindoro_: | said |
| [20:36:34] | clever: | stuarta: yep but a mask of 0 doesnt say what core to limit it to |
| [20:36:42] | stuarta: | who cares |
| [20:36:42] | clever: | theres no bits on(to mark the cores) |
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| [20:37:42] | majnoon: | hi i was wondering if anyone has a sample lirc config file for mythtv i can work from |
| [20:38:01] | iamlindoro_: | majnoon: read the wiki article on lirc, there are examples of button defs there |
| [20:38:39] | majnoon: | i thought some one may have a copy i can look through and modify |
| [20:39:18] | iamlindoro_: | majnoon: they will be totally different for everyone based on their remotes and button names, nobody else's is any good to you |
| [20:40:29] | majnoon: | eg can change names of buttons :) |
| [20:40:46] | majnoon: | it would be BIG help |
| [20:41:06] | iamlindoro_: | then google, tons of results for "mythtv lircrc" |
| [20:41:21] | iamlindoro_: | don't make someone go do it for you when you can google it fine yourself |
| [20:41:44] | majnoon: | that be sorta big help too :) ty |
| [20:42:26] | majnoon: | need to know WHAT to look for |
| [20:42:35] | majnoon: | ty iamlindoro |
| [20:42:42] | iamlindoro_: | you're welcome |
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| [20:45:48] | majnoon: | iamlindoro, for future ref http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Mythtv-lircrc-Dapper good start point |
| [20:46:00] | majnoon: | i'll bookmark it :) |
| [20:46:11] | iamlindoro_: | I didn't need to know where to find lircrcs, you did |
| [20:46:18] | sid3windr: | :P |
| [20:46:22] | iamlindoro_: | I *know* how to google "mythtv lircrc" |
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| [20:47:27] | majnoon: | it shows the "commands" in it i can figre out the key presses and etc :) |
| [20:47:51] | ShiftyPowers: | iamlindoro, how's the hd pvr coming along? |
| [20:47:54] | ShiftyPowers: | promising? |
| [20:48:22] | iamlindoro_: | ShiftyPowers: there was a lull in the last few weeks, but a lot of work done in the last few days. Yes, seems to be working well for most folks (although I haven't put it in to "production" yet) |
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| [20:48:36] | ShiftyPowers: | iamlindoro, nice |
| [20:48:42] | ShiftyPowers: | iamlindoro, i'm hoping to get it at some point |
| [20:48:47] | ShiftyPowers: | is it worth buying right now? |
| [20:49:02] | ShiftyPowers: | i'm moving into Comcast world after being OTA for some time |
| [20:49:18] | iamlindoro_: | I think so, I'm careful about what I put in to the system, but some people seem to be having great luck with it so far |
| [20:49:30] | iamlindoro_: | of course there are gotchas and caveats, but some people are using it as their primary tuner now |
| [20:49:34] | joshman09: | i'm setting up my first time of mythtv in ubuntu can anybody help? |
| [20:49:34] | ShiftyPowers: | an luck by using the instructions on the wiki? |
| [20:49:52] | ShiftyPowers: | and pardon my ignorance but it controls the STB via firewire or blaster? |
| [20:49:54] | iamlindoro_: | joshman09: you need to ask specific questions, nobody will volunteer to guide you through step by step |
| [20:50:20] | joshman09: | oh great!!! |
| [20:50:21] | iamlindoro_: | ShiftyPowers: Any way you want. If your STB has firewire, you could use that (although that has nothing to do with the HD-PVR) or you can use IR, whichever |
| [20:50:33] | ShiftyPowers: | ah of course |
| [20:50:37] | joshman09: | i think i install all the correct files |
| [20:50:43] | ShiftyPowers: | the hd pvr merely captures what's in the component inputs |
| [20:50:46] | iamlindoro_: | ShiftyPowers: Any luck what? I wrote the instructions in the wiki, so I'd say they're accurate :) |
| [20:51:12] | ShiftyPowers: | i meant to say people you've talk to are using the instructions in the wiki that you wrote right? |
| [20:51:23] | iamlindoro_: | yes, for those that need instructions, yes. |
| [20:52:22] | stuarta: | ffs. hit x to transcode rather than z to skip commercial |
| [20:53:15] | joshman09: | when i click on mythtv frontend for the first time, i get an error "No UPnP backend found" |
| [20:53:24] | joshman09: | so it takes me to database configuration |
| [20:53:57] | iamlindoro_: | joshman09: Have you run through all the steps of the mythtv-setup program, set up a tuner card, added a listings source, then started the backend? |
| [20:54:03] | joshman09: | and i put in the user and password and it gives me another error "cannot login to database" |
| [20:54:10] | iamlindoro_: | If those questions confuse you then you *really* need to find and read a mythtv howto |
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| [20:54:32] | iamlindoro_: | mythtv cannot be installed simply by running "apt-get install mythtv" (or whatever) |
| [20:54:40] | iamlindoro_: | at least, not if you expect it to work |
| [20:54:44] | joshman09: | can i follow the direction and reinstall it again? |
| [20:55:04] | iamlindoro_: | you can do anything you like, but I'd rather you answer the questions I asked you |
| [20:55:10] | iamlindoro_: | "joshman09: Have you run through all the steps of the mythtv-setup program, set up a tuner card, added a listings source, then started the backend?" |
| [20:55:50] | iamlindoro_: | ie have you opened a terminal, run "mythtv-setup," and successfully completed all steps in there before starting the backend, ALL before starting the frontend |
| [20:56:28] | sid3windr: | (and set up mysql to listen on !=127.0.0.1 and authorized the mythtv user for remote connections) |
| [20:56:50] | iamlindoro_: | sid3windr: no, he does not need to mess with SQL until he intends to add a second frontend |
| [20:57:12] | sid3windr: | dunno – my primary frontend is not on my backend ;) |
| [20:57:15] | iamlindoro_: | myth will happily work w/ 127.0.0.1 on a combined backend/frontend |
| [20:57:25] | iamlindoro_: | sid3windr: then don't confuse the newbies |
| [20:57:30] | sid3windr: | but yeah, the error he mentioned made me think it was on a different machine |
| [20:57:37] | sid3windr: | now I conclude it's just the wrong settings :) |
| [20:57:41] | sid3windr: | sorry ;) |
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| [20:58:55] | joshman09: | ian, i'm trying to find the link of the instruction i followed |
| [20:59:08] | iamlindoro_: | I'll tell ian when I see him |
| [20:59:31] | iamlindoro_: | tab-autocomplete is fun AND useful |
| [20:59:46] | mkrufky: | except for when we're talking to you, iamlindoro_ |
| [20:59:56] | iamlindoro_: | Hey, I get them all eventually |
| [21:00:06] | mkrufky: | ;-) |
| [21:00:31] | mkrufky: | so... im no mythtv expert, but i think i've been around the block.... |
| [21:00:40] | mkrufky: | now, i told you my master backend died |
| [21:00:48] | mkrufky: | i set up another one for the time being |
| [21:01:02] | mkrufky: | and my remote frontends are reporting that they cannot log into the database |
| [21:01:17] | mkrufky: | i already updated ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt and ~/.mythtv/config.xml |
| [21:01:31] | mkrufky: | and also added permissions to the user inside mysql to the appropriate hosts |
| [21:01:34] | iamlindoro_: | /etc/mysql/my.cnf? bind-address? |
| [21:01:37] | mkrufky: | what did i forget? |
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| [21:01:43] | ** mkrufky checkls ** | |
| [21:01:49] | iamlindoro_: | on the BE, that is |
| [21:02:08] | iamlindoro_: | and, of course, in mythtv-setup making sure the MB IP is a real IP |
| [21:02:13] | sid3windr: | meh – I said it too soon :P |
| [21:02:16] | iamlindoro_: | versus 127.0.0.1 |
| [21:02:18] | mkrufky: | ya i did that too |
| [21:02:40] | joshman09: | ian, i followed the installation instruction from http://parker1.co.uk/mythtv_ubuntu.php |
| [21:03:04] | mkrufky: | aha... the bind address inside /etc/mysql/my.cnf is still 127.0.0.1 |
| [21:03:05] | iamlindoro_: | where did that ian go, anyway? |
| [21:03:11] | mkrufky: | thats probably the problem... nice |
| [21:03:19] | iamlindoro_: | almost certainly |
| [21:03:21] | mkrufky: | thanks, iamlindoro — hopefully this will work when i get home |
| [21:03:23] | sphery: | kormoc: Last time we saw a spate of "no preview" tickets/threads/discussion, it turned out to be due to improper time zone configuration. Could also be storage group misconfiguration. |
| [21:03:30] | iamlindoro_: | mkrufky np |
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| [21:04:25] | iamlindoro_: | now I get whatver toy you next release for free |
| [21:04:33] | iamlindoro_: | Just so you know |
| [21:04:33] | kormoc: | sphery, Yeah, but has that ever manifested itself as only some of them didn't load? |
| [21:04:35] | mkrufky: | lol |
| [21:04:35] | sphery: | kormoc: It's possible that the reporter has multiple backend systems since we know he has multiple capture cards. If so, I'd guess something like the above is preventing preview generation on one system or the other. |
| [21:04:46] | kormoc: | yeah, gotcha |
| [21:05:02] | mkrufky: | iamlindoro it's a dvb-t stick — you dont want it |
| [21:05:08] | iamlindoro_: | damn |
| [21:05:12] | ** mkrufky wins ** | |
| [21:05:13] | iamlindoro_: | ok, next US eligible toy |
| [21:05:29] | joshman09: | is there a way to find out the user and password for the backend database? |
| [21:05:30] | sphery: | In other words, I need more info about his config to guess... :) I have his ticket marked Red (red = something wrong) in my mail client with the intent to request additional info, but I'll be busy for the next couple of weeks. |
| [21:05:33] | iamlindoro_: | Hauppauge 08 – Retro framegrabbers? |
| [21:05:36] | sphery: | kormoc: ^^^ |
| [21:05:37] | mkrufky: | now, is there something i can test from a command line to prove that mythfrontend on assassin will connect to mythbackend on outlands? |
| [21:05:45] | mkrufky: | (without a gui) |
| [21:05:51] | iamlindoro_: | yes, use the mysql client |
| [21:06:09] | joshman09: | how do i use mysql clinet? |
| [21:06:17] | ** mkrufky grins ** | |
| [21:06:18] | iamlindoro_: | joshman09: I am not speaking to you |
| [21:06:23] | mkrufky: | tell him anyway |
| [21:06:23] | joshman09: | oops |
| [21:06:35] | ** sid3windr sighs as he crashed his backend ;/ ** | |
| [21:06:36] | kormoc: | sphery, Heh, I've been attempting to keep mythweb tickets to a minimum these days :) |
| [21:06:45] | iamlindoro_: | mkrufky: mysql -uusername -p -h hostname/IP mythconverg ought to do something |
| [21:06:50] | mkrufky: | k |
| [21:06:58] | sphery: | kormoc: BTW, I'm pretty sure that all the transcoded recordings in NUV format on my systems have previews, even in MythWeb. I can try to regenerate some, now. |
| [21:07:22] | iamlindoro_: | eg mysql -umkrufky -pstrangelyattractedtoiamlindoro -h Iheartiamlindoro.mkrufky.org mythconverg |
| [21:07:35] | mkrufky: | success! |
| [21:07:42] | mkrufky: | umm |
| [21:07:45] | iamlindoro_: | haha |
| [21:07:51] | iamlindoro_: | I crack me up |
| [21:07:57] | mkrufky: | wishful thinking, eh? |
| [21:08:02] | iamlindoro_: | ewwwwwww |
| [21:08:03] | iamlindoro_: | hha |
| [21:08:07] | mkrufky: | ever since you saw my photo, you just cant get enough |
| [21:08:11] | iamlindoro_: | yeah baby |
| [21:08:19] | mkrufky: | :-* |
| [21:08:23] | iamlindoro_: | hahaha |
| [21:08:49] | kormoc: | mkrufky, telnet |
| [21:09:13] | mkrufky: | what about telnet, kormoc? |
| [21:09:23] | mkrufky: | telnet to 6543? that will tell me the server is listening |
| [21:09:37] | mkrufky: | i had a database problem, i think the mysql client proved that it will work once i get home |
| [21:10:02] | mkrufky: | (i think) |
| [21:10:21] | kormoc: | mkrufky, well, you asked bout mythbackend not mysql :P |
| [21:10:26] | mkrufky: | ah, true :-) |
| [21:10:32] | mkrufky: | well, thanks :-D |
| [21:10:33] | sphery: | mkrufky: I think he means start up mythfrontend with "Enable Network Remote Control interface" and telnet to 6546 (network control port) |
| [21:11:03] | mkrufky: | ah, well i am not in front of the machine — it's 34 miles away |
| [21:11:31] | sphery: | BTW, in case it's not enabled: mythfrontend -O NetworkControlEnabled=1 |
| [21:11:38] | mkrufky: | anyway... its time to shop for new backend server hardware |
| [21:11:46] | kormoc: | sphery, well, given he asked bout the FE to the BE, telnetting to 6543 from the FE box to the BE should be enough |
| [21:11:56] | mkrufky: | ok i will try it |
| [21:12:16] | iamlindoro_: | Welcome to #mythtv-users, Extreme Tedium edition! |
| [21:12:26] | kormoc: | unless I'm on crack, which has been rumored to be true in times past |
| [21:12:28] | mkrufky: | [mk@assassin ~]$ telnet outlands 6543 |
| [21:12:28] | mkrufky: | Trying 192.168.1.103... |
| [21:12:28] | mkrufky: | Connected to outlands. |
| [21:12:28] | mkrufky: | Escape character is '^]'. |
| [21:12:29] | sphery: | kormoc: I was thinking more of a systems test rather than a unit test (i.e. check that mythfrontend works--including all required direct DB access, etc.) |
| [21:12:31] | mkrufky: | grr, sorry |
| [21:12:43] | mkrufky: | so yeah it worked |
| [21:14:08] | joshman09: | where can i go in the mythtv to check my user and password? |
| [21:14:25] | joshman09: | i think it might be mismatch of user name and setup |
| [21:14:33] | mkrufky: | thats all in mysql, joshman09 |
| [21:14:38] | ** kormoc wonders if this is a good idea or not ** | |
| [21:14:44] | mkrufky: | you can specify the login inside ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt |
| [21:14:47] | iamlindoro_: | if you mean you want to check the DB password that Ubuntu set up for you, first off you should have been paying attention when installing packages, because it told you then |
| [21:14:59] | iamlindoro_: | secondly, cd ~/.mythtv |
| [21:15:01] | iamlindoro_: | cat mysql.txt |
| [21:15:12] | mkrufky: | lol, it also told you that it leaves no password by default, and that you're highly encouraged to create a password |
| [21:15:13] | kormoc: | So, given I added a rather solid rss and ical framework in mythweb, what pages would be good candidates for RSS/iCal/Both feeds? |
| [21:15:26] | iamlindoro_: | or, for the adventurous, cat ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt |
| [21:15:42] | iamlindoro_: | mkrufky: only for root, it auto-gens the mythtv one |
| [21:15:46] | iamlindoro_: | and presents the user with it |
| [21:15:58] | mkrufky: | oh, i didnt know that |
| [21:15:58] | iamlindoro_: | which ubuntu users prompts ignore |
| [21:15:58] | iamlindoro_: | er promptly |
| [21:16:46] | iamlindoro_: | because anything preceded by all capital letters that say "WRITE THIS DOWN" can't be that important |
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| [21:17:39] | jams: | maybe some people are "all capital letter blind" |
| [21:17:45] | iamlindoro_: | hehe |
| [21:17:49] | iamlindoro_: | I try to be in here |
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| [21:18:31] | jams: | man 5 oclock seems so far away |
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| [21:19:08] | jams: | my repaired ps3 arrived today and now I can finally play msg4 |
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| [21:19:45] | iamlindoro_: | jams: I've started it, only about an hour in-- it's so thick with narrative that I've got to really be in the mood |
| [21:20:38] | jams: | I picked up the game the day of the release. In order to play it required a firmware update. After the update the ps3 would no longer read ANY disks |
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| [21:26:32] | xand: | hm |
| [21:26:36] | xand: | 260 programmes, using -48886585176 B (271 hrs 31 mins) out of 140 GB (186 GB free). |
| [21:26:46] | xand: | look at all that space mythtv is saving me! |
| [21:26:57] | sphery: | xand: MythWeb? |
| [21:27:00] | xand: | yes |
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| [21:27:25] | Ace2016_--: | Hi all |
| [21:27:31] | xand: | uhoh! |
| [21:27:33] | Ace2016_--: | how much currnt can you put through a coaxial cable? |
| [21:27:41] | Ace2016_--: | is 1Amp at 12V ok? |
| [21:27:54] | xand: | what's that got to do with mythtv? |
| [21:27:58] | iamlindoro_: | do this as a test. Jam one end into an outlet, and lick the other end. Taste for voltage level. |
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| [21:28:46] | SHADOW__X: | hey mkrufky |
| [21:28:52] | hadees: | Ace2016_--, double it |
| [21:29:53] | Ace2016_--: | hadees: double it? |
| [21:30:07] | hadees: | exactly |
| [21:30:24] | Ace2016_--: | so it can take 2A at 12v? |
| [21:32:01] | mkrufky: | hey SHADOW__X |
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| [21:32:36] | SHADOW__X: | so did you get my slowmotion clip or no |
| [21:32:55] | SHADOW__X: | and i have not found that the current driver release supports the mpeg encoder yet |
| [21:32:57] | SHADOW__X: | or does it |
| [21:33:31] | mkrufky: | i pointed you to a tree that does have the encoder support |
| [21:33:45] | mkrufky: | if you have an mpeg clip, then you used the encoder to create it, duh |
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| [21:33:52] | mkrufky: | and no, i never received email from yuou |
| [21:34:13] | Ace2016_--: | ah found it, should have looked ip the specs for the lnb and not the coax |
| [21:34:21] | Ace2016_--: | 24v at 5A is ok so mine isfine |
| [21:34:24] | Ace2016_--: | is fine* |
| [21:34:36] | joshman09: | once again... how can i retrieve the user name and password so it will match with the setup |
| [21:35:12] | joshman09: | i wasnt paying attention to initial installation |
| [21:35:17] | Ace2016_--: | you think really really hard about what they are |
| [21:35:30] | joshman09: | lol |
| [21:35:33] | Ace2016_--: | try mythtv as username and password |
| [21:36:02] | Ribs: | joshman09, you can boot the OS into singe-user mode and reset your passwords from there |
| [21:36:12] | Ribs: | as long as you have local access to the machine, all is not lost :) |
| [21:36:48] | iamlindoro_: | no |
| [21:36:51] | iamlindoro_: | stop all that |
| [21:36:57] | iamlindoro_: | he does NOT need the linux password |
| [21:37:01] | Ace2016_--: | don't you need a root pw for that? |
| [21:37:05] | iamlindoro_: | no |
| [21:37:10] | iamlindoro_: | good lord |
| [21:37:22] | iamlindoro_: | joshman09: as you say, "once again..." I gave you the answer |
| [21:37:33] | Ace2016_--: | reinstall? |
| [21:37:35] | joshman09: | no i have user and password for ubuntu |
| [21:37:35] | iamlindoro_: | iamlindoro_: secondly, cd ~/.mythtv |
| [21:37:36] | iamlindoro_: | [2:15pm] iamlindoro_: cat mysql.txt |
| [21:37:47] | Ribs: | oh right |
| [21:37:54] | Ribs: | sorry, I jumped in half-way through |
| [21:38:02] | Ribs: | wasn't really paying attention :) |
| [21:38:02] | Ace2016_--: | what? thats it? its in a text file? |
| [21:38:18] | webvictim: | yes. |
| [21:38:18] | Ace2016_--: | whats the point of the username and password? |
| [21:38:19] | iamlindoro_: | Ace2016_--: it's in a text file on *your* system too-- myth pulls its mysql password from that file |
| [21:38:56] | Ace2016_--: | oh i see |
| [21:39:27] | SHADOW__X: | alright well mkrufky i can watch a channel in mythtv but its in slow motion ill record another one for ya |
| [21:39:29] | joshman09: | ian, what's first thing b4 secondly... |
| [21:39:39] | iamlindoro_: | My name is NOT iam |
| [21:39:42] | iamlindoro_: | er ian |
| [21:39:59] | joshman09: | short |
| [21:40:02] | mkrufky: | SHADOW__X: dont |
| [21:40:05] | joshman09: | for ianlindoro |
| [21:40:05] | Ace2016_--: | lindoro? |
| [21:40:11] | iamlindoro_: | "iamlindoro_: if you mean you want to check the DB password that Ubuntu set up for you, first off you should have been paying attention when installing packages, because it told you then" |
| [21:40:20] | SHADOW__X: | ok mkrufky what should i do then |
| [21:40:21] | mkrufky: | SHADOW__X: i only care about the file you get when you cat from video1 |
| [21:40:28] | SHADOW__X: | ok |
| [21:40:35] | iamlindoro_: | joshman09: it's *not* "ianlindoro" |
| [21:40:48] | iamlindoro_: | if you can't read one word, how can I trust you to read a sentence? |
| [21:40:56] | mkrufky: | tab autocompletion, man |
| [21:41:05] | Ace2016_--: | why not use autocomplete? |
| [21:41:18] | clever: | Ace2016_--: 3 keys to get your name:P |
| [21:42:04] | Ace2016_--: | well type a c tab, not hard, iamlindoro_ also has 3 |
| [21:42:16] | Ace2016_--: | so do you |
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| [21:42:47] | iamlindoro_: | I think he thought you said "why use" instead of "why not use" |
| [21:43:58] | dustybin: | did you know that binutils and gcc are the first most important bits on linux |
| [21:44:24] | iamlindoro_: | dustybin: did you know that every time you start a sentence with "did you know," we all already knew it? |
| [21:44:39] | joshman09: | well i got the user name and password |
| [21:44:50] | iamlindoro_: | and we all laugh because you *didn't* know it and just copy and pasted it from whatever howto you're reading? |
| [21:45:10] | joshman09: | but still get an error that says "cannot login into databse" |
| [21:45:11] | dustybin: | iamlindoro_: im installing LFS |
| [21:45:21] | iamlindoro_: | dustybin: yes, we've heard you say so about 50 times |
| [21:45:30] | ** dustybin hides ** | |
| [21:45:39] | joshman09: | and sends me out to database configuration 1/2 |
| [21:46:02] | iamlindoro_: | joshman09: I don't think Ubuntu then mythtv is for you, I strongly urge you to install with Mythbuntu instead |
| [21:46:07] | joshman09: | i'm trying to setup mythtv backend |
| [21:46:25] | joshman09: | how do i do that? |
| [21:46:34] | iamlindoro_: | download a mythbuntu install CD, install it |
| [21:46:38] | iamlindoro_: | www.mythbuntu.org |
| [21:46:44] | iamlindoro_: | and seek help from them in #ubuntu-mythtv |
| [21:47:06] | joshman09: | what's the difference between mythtv vs mythbuntu? |
| [21:47:25] | clever: | mythbuntu i beleive is just ubuntu with it set to install the mythtv packages by default |
| [21:47:32] | clever: | like kubuntu and edubuntun |
| [21:47:33] | iamlindoro_: | mythbuntu is geared to the very very beginner with mythtv |
| [21:47:34] | joshman09: | ic |
| [21:47:40] | joshman09: | thanks for all your help! |
| [21:47:42] | iamlindoro_: | and does most of it for you automatically |
| [21:47:43] | clever: | with a few extra things to make mythtv simpler to use |
| [21:51:54] | SHADOW__X: | mkrufky what where the 2 modules that you told me to reload previous i believe 23354 or something close |
| [21:52:31] | SHADOW__X: | 23885 and another |
| [21:52:44] | SHADOW__X: | nvm i found it 25840 |
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| [21:55:07] | joshman09: | mythbuntu is os version that includes ubuntu |
| [21:55:15] | joshman09: | i rather stick with mythtv |
| [21:55:26] | joshman09: | dont want to reinstall a new os agaign |
| [21:55:29] | joshman09: | again |
| [21:56:11] | iamlindoro_: | joshman09: I think that installing mythtv on to the OS appears to be beyond your level, no offense intended |
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| [21:56:31] | joshman09: | no offense taken |
| [21:56:35] | joshman09: | but i want to learn :) |
| [21:56:46] | iamlindoro_: | then you should start with the myth documenation and not blog posts |
| [21:57:00] | joshman09: | gotcha |
| [21:57:02] | iamlindoro_: | http://www.mythtv.org/modules.php?name=MythInstall |
| [21:57:24] | iamlindoro_: | read that until you understand *all* the concepts, only then will you be prepared to work on myth |
| [21:58:58] | iamlindoro_: | or, you can install mythbuntu which will take care of the DB stuff for you and add a lot of things to make it simpler for you, and seek help in #ubuntu-mythtv, where they are generally more patient with beginners |
| [21:59:20] | iamlindoro_: | actually, in either case, Mythbuntu or Ubuntu + Mythtv, you will probably find the most patient help in #ubuntu-mythtv |
| [21:59:21] | SHADOW__X: | mkrufky all i get is static |
| [22:00:01] | mkrufky: | SHADOW__X: once you're figured that out, then email me the info i would need to download the clip |
| [22:00:19] | mkrufky: | SHADOW__X: i helped you get it working the other day — just refer back to your notes |
| [22:00:49] | iamlindoro_: | Notes? Mwaaaaaahahaahahahah |
| [22:00:51] | iamlindoro_: | *tear* |
| [22:00:55] | iamlindoro_: | mkrufky you crack me up |
| [22:00:57] | SHADOW__X: | yeah i will try and get it that way again but since then i isntalled another tuner and it seemed to alter the 1800 |
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| [22:01:07] | mkrufky: | (it was built-in satire, iamlindoro_ ) |
| [22:01:11] | iamlindoro_: | haha |
| [22:01:21] | SHADOW__X: | iamlindoro_ i may not actually have a notebook but i do remember atleast something give me some credit |
| [22:01:34] | iamlindoro_: | mmhm |
| [22:01:34] | mkrufky: | and this channel is logged |
| [22:01:48] | iamlindoro_: | well, you helped him in #linuxtv but same difference :) |
| [22:01:48] | SHADOW__X: | very true |
| [22:01:59] | iamlindoro_: | it doesn't count as taking notes when a bot does it for you :) |
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| [22:09:06] | SHADOW__X: | so uh how do i look up the logs |
| [22:09:11] | ** SHADOW__X puts head down ** | |
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| [22:14:39] | Ace2016_--: | Hi again |
| [22:14:47] | Ace2016_--: | anyone use tiscali tv? |
| [22:16:30] | mkrufky: | SHADOW__X: mythlogbot takes the logs — if you google him you'll find the archives |
| [22:16:42] | mkrufky: | SHADOW__X: #linuxtv logs are mentioned in that channel topic |
| [22:17:39] | SHADOW__X: | yeah i found it |
| [22:17:46] | SHADOW__X: | its on the mythtv irc page |
| [22:18:34] | majnoon: | ok ALMOST there iamlindoro |
| [22:18:45] | mkrufky: | im signing off ... tty guys later |
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| [22:19:29] | majnoon: | just need to know the command to use to push the "enter" key so can map it to the remote :) |
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| [22:24:47] | monkeyBox: | Hello, I'm having a frustrating issue w/ my PVR-150. Every now and then, my shows won't record. When I go to "upcoming recordings", they're all red, a and it says "Recorder off line". What is causing this, and how can I prevent it from happening? |
| [22:25:26] | monkeyBox: | I've found that if I go into mythtv-setup and remove and re-add the input it works again.... But I'd rather not have to do this all the time. |
| [22:26:06] | Anduin: | monkeyBox: look at the backend log, see why the recorder failed |
| [22:27:06] | monkeyBox: | Anduin, I don't see any error messages in the backend log |
| [22:27:27] | monkeyBox: | just info msgs |
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| [22:29:54] | peoples_: | hey guys |
| [22:30:01] | monkeyBox: | in fact, I'm tailing the backend log, and I just set a current show to record from the program guide, and all I get is: " Reschedule requested for id 19. " |
| [22:30:21] | Anduin: | monkeyBox: look back to when it first failed |
| [22:30:23] | peoples_: | i'm running mythbuntu 8.04 and playing arround with dvb-s2 + mythtv |
| [22:30:45] | Anduin: | monkeyBox: also did you do anything like change your host name? |
| [22:30:57] | monkeyBox: | Anduin, nope, haven't changed anything. |
| [22:31:06] | monkeyBox: | this has happened twice in the last few das |
| [22:31:38] | peoples_: | now i've to compile and install a patched version of mythtv but im not sure , is it possible to install 2 different versions of mythtv side by side ? |
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| [22:31:49] | majnoon: | can anyone help ?? just need to know the command to use to push the "enter" key so can map it to the remote :) (lirc) |
| [22:32:39] | iamlindoro: | majnoon: this is not rocket Science, config = Enter |
| [22:32:58] | monkeyBox: | Anduin, at this point I'm concerned about exactly how mythtv decides a recorder is "off-line" ... |
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| [22:34:17] | majnoon: | ok sorry been up since 6 pm YESTERDAY :( |
| [22:36:15] | monkeyBox: | ok, I am seeing stuff in my kernel log about ivtv: ivtv0: Failed to initialize on minor 0 |
| [22:36:32] | Anduin: | monkeyBox: The log should say, there are several reasons |
| [22:36:40] | iamlindoro: | majnoon: The first thing I told you you should do is read the lirc wiki article-- which *specifically* links you to the keybindings and explains them, including Enter |
| [22:36:55] | iamlindoro: | majnoon: So forgive me if I'm frustrated since you refused to follow that advice |
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| [22:44:37] | jpabq: | Seagate has announced that they will start shipping 1.5TB drives next month. |
| [22:45:06] | iamlindoro: | yeah saw that... back to cycling out one by one I guess :) |
| [22:49:44] | SHADOW__X: | how do i make /dev/video0–2 stop from switching around |
| [22:50:12] | iamlindoro: | by using udev rules |
| [22:50:15] | iamlindoro: | search the wiki |
| [22:50:23] | SHADOW__X: | k |
| [22:50:57] | jpabq: | iamlindoro, I thought you agreed that doing it in modprobe.conf was easier? |
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| [22:55:26] | iamlindoro: | jpabq: not sure that works with the HVR-1800. SHADOW__X: You can try what jpabq is suggesting too, by adding video_nr=# to the module options for your tuner, that may or may not work |
| [22:56:12] | iamlindoro: | Reason I'm not sure is because the 1800 has two /dev/video nodes, but I guess it's worth a shot |
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| [22:57:25] | SHADOW__X: | hmm i will look into both but i think i am going to stick with udev and take a look at the conf iamlindoro |
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| [23:07:05] | dustybin: | when will microsoft stop making stuff what sucks? |
| [23:07:18] | dustybin: | when they start making vacuum cleaners :P |
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| [23:13:24] | SHADOW__X: | iamlindoro with this KERNEL=="video[0–9]*", SYSFS{name}=="cx88*", SYMLINK+="video-pcHDTV" |
| [23:13:24] | SHADOW__X: | KERNEL=="video[0–9]*", SYSFS{name}=="", SYMLINK+="video-PVR-USB2" |
| [23:13:42] | SHADOW__X: | would i adjust the end of the symlink to the video i want |
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| [23:13:49] | SHADOW__X: | or am i being dumb |
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| [23:14:45] | iamlindoro: | you adjust the symlink to be what you want the name in /dev to be (ie /dev/video-pcHDTV) but you need to make sure the unique attribute is correct for your card (ie SYSFS{name}== or whatever is unique |
| [23:15:28] | SHADOW__X: | ah ok |
| [23:15:30] | SHADOW__X: | thanks works |
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| [23:17:59] | SHADOW__X: | hey you ll be happy to know i was about to ask a stupid question but i stoped myself |
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| [23:18:22] | iamlindoro: | \o/ |
| [23:20:30] | SHADOW__X: | see i be learninz |
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| [23:26:53] | SHADOW__X: | can i use attr{dev} as a identifier as well |
| [23:27:12] | SHADOW__X: | isnt that how it is discovered during boot depending on where it is installed? |
| [23:33:24] | iamlindoro: | you can use any of the information, so long as it is unique |
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| [23:34:46] | panfist: | hello, i was wondering if anyone could please recommend a sound card with minimal hassle digital out. thank you |
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| [23:35:23] | darkdrgn2k3: | is there anyway to force "video/mpeg" mime type in a playlist |
| [23:36:23] | iamlindoro: | panfist: any supported card with digital out is going to be the exact same level of hassle, and linux supports almost any sound card you can buy in the stores |
| [23:37:21] | darkdrgn2k3: | panfist: disclaimer: you can get audio out going no problem.. proibably.. dont expect everythign else to work out of the box |
| [23:38:40] | panfist: | here's another question, it's more hardware specfic but maybe you guys can help: i am interested in an x-fi platinum because i found some new ones for about half off on ebay and i also do a fair bit of gaming in windows. i understand that x-fi drivers are immature at best, but this part worries me: it says that "spidf passthrough is not supported" in the current version. does that mean no digital out at all? |
| [23:38:54] | panfist: | im not quite sure exactly what " |
| [23:39:04] | iamlindoro: | Not a Myth question, check with your distro's channel |
| [23:39:24] | iamlindoro: | But yes, that means that you cannot pas AC3 or DTS through it for your receiver to decode right now |
| [23:39:27] | panfist: | well the question really is what exactly is spidf passthrough...im sorry im a home theater newbie |
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| [23:39:54] | panfist: | well that is really lame |
| [23:40:31] | EvilGuru: | panfist: Such is life :) |
| [23:40:45] | SHADOW__X: | iamlindoro i current have the udev rule as 60 should i set it lower |
| [23:40:58] | SHADOW__X: | i am on mythbuntu |
| [23:40:58] | iamlindoro: | SHADOW__X: probably fine |
| [23:41:12] | SHADOW__X: | it didnt work though i will try again |
| [23:41:16] | EvilGuru: | And that is why I love the internet; no matter how screwed up you think you are, there is always someone 10x as screwed up and proud of it |
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| [23:42:13] | panfist: | ok one more off-topic question and I promise I will be quiet: if passthrough is not supported, do you suppose the sound card can decode the ac3 or dts and pass 6 channels through the digital out, or would I be stuck with sending analog out via 3x 1/8" jacks |
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| [23:42:48] | iamlindoro: | uhhh... since it can't pass AC3 unmolested, what makes you think re-encoding it to AC3 is going to work? |
| [23:42:58] | iamlindoro: | AC3 == AC3 |
| [23:43:16] | panfist: | == ignorant |
| [23:43:23] | iamlindoro: | any coax and spdif don't have NEAR enough bandwidth for 6 Channel PCM |
| [23:43:34] | EvilGuru: | Need HDMI |
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| [23:44:24] | panfist: | is there a hardware solution that allows me to send video and audio via HDMI in linux? |
| [23:44:57] | selmanj: | just curious; anyone using hardware mpeg2 encoding with a pvr150? if so, do you generally leave it in mpeg2, or do you transcode it to mpeg4 after its done recording, or...? |
| [23:45:12] | selmanj: | i usually leave it but the massive usage of hd space is making me reconsider |
| [23:45:25] | iamlindoro: | selmanj: analog capture is bad enough without adding *another* transcode, losing even more quality. Most people leave it alone |
| [23:45:51] | iamlindoro: | panfist: There are some options for HDMI video + audio, but they are very very very beta |
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| [23:45:55] | stoneymonster: | before I sent mine to the puppy farm, I left in it mpeg2. disk space is cheap |
| [23:46:00] | selmanj: | fair enough, but i'm watching it on a shitty old SDTV so it's tempting |
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| [23:46:52] | panfist: | iamlindoro well hdmi really is more of a convenience than anything else, there's nothing wrong with using two cables |
| [23:47:01] | iamlindoro: | correct |
| [23:47:22] | iamlindoro: | no need to buy an X-fi, just buy some random chinese sound card with SPDIF out, it's likely to work perfectly |
| [23:47:38] | panfist: | the x-fi would be just for my gaming in windows |
| [23:47:50] | iamlindoro: | then buy two |
| [23:47:53] | panfist: | i guess, since it wont work in linux |
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| [23:53:51] | panfist: | think this one would be ok? it has a spidf connector on board http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829130001 |
| [23:55:07] | panfist: | hmmm it looks like i'm going to have to shell out at least $20 for something that doesn't have a lot of 1 star reviews |
| [23:56:47] | majnoon: | got MOST of it :) |
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