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| [00:00:21] | fryfrog: | well, if they are ulta sonic, then they make noise to change channels |
| [00:00:35] | fryfrog: | i thought they were piezio, ir or something but *powered* by the click |
| [00:00:41] | fryfrog: | or not IR for sure, maybe RF |
| [00:01:35] | justinh: | naw they def. ultrasound |
| [00:01:54] | justinh: | jangling of keys by the TV usually works as well,seee |
| [00:02:01] | justinh: | no coding or anything |
| [00:04:35] | fryfrog: | ah |
| [00:06:08] | justinh: | you basically get 'next channel'.. and that;s it |
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| [00:34:43] | justinh: | least it'd make lirc a whole load easier – one button to configgle! |
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| [01:19:47] | ajh: | Is there sound support in the theme engine? |
| [01:20:09] | ajh: | The silence in the menus is creepy. |
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| [01:24:07] | Anduin: | ajh: not yet |
| [01:24:55] | ajh: | okey |
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| [01:32:09] | ajh: | how would I mark a front end as SD only? |
| [01:32:25] | ajh: | either it doesn't have the horsepower or the bandwidth |
| [01:32:37] | justinh: | you can't |
| [01:33:47] | ajh: | so you can't do favourites per-frontend? |
| [01:34:21] | ajh: | are there plans to add more multiuser friendly features? Things like user classes and recording permissions? |
| [01:34:24] | justinh: | nope |
| [01:34:28] | justinh: | and nope |
| [01:34:52] | justinh: | there was a multiuser SoC project but that was such a blinding success it erm.... oh wait.. it phailed big style |
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| [01:51:39] | cafuego: | Silence is to be treasured, not creepy <heh> |
| [01:58:09] | ajh: | yay, with the right tweaking the T42 does HD fine, yay. :) |
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| [02:11:56] | Josh: | Does anyone have a suggestion for raid type with 3 80GB drives? |
| [02:12:35] | Aval0n-: | d |
| [02:14:23] | iamlindoro: | I say raid the eloctronics store for bigger drives |
| [02:15:17] | Josh: | iamlindoro, agreed |
| [02:16:14] | iamlindoro: | Anyway, I'm partial to 5 and 6, but w/ 3 drives only 5 is an option |
| [02:17:41] | iamlindoro: | (of those two, that is) |
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| [02:18:09] | milesd: | Hi, everybody. I'm running a hauppage pvr-150. I have lirc and the lirc_mceusb2 modules installed and when I cat /dev/lirc0 and press buttons on the remote, I see garbage come out |
| [02:18:20] | milesd: | but I installed /usr/share/lirc/remotes/hauppauge/lircd.conf.hauppauge to /etc/lirc/lircd.conf, restarted lircd and irw still gives no output when I press the buttons |
| [02:18:28] | milesd: | ...anybody have an idea about what might be going wrong in between /dev/lirc0 and irw? |
| [02:19:51] | iamlindoro: | mostly the fact that that lircd.conf isn't for the mceusb remote |
| [02:20:16] | iamlindoro: | it's for the hauppauge remote, which the mceusb remote is not |
| [02:21:16] | iamlindoro: | ls /usr/share/lirc/remotes/ and if you can't determine which directory holds the right one, you have to go use WinMCE ;) |
| [02:21:48] | milesd: | ooh... ok |
| [02:22:04] | otwin: | milesd: what distro? |
| [02:22:12] | milesd: | otwin, debian testing |
| [02:23:03] | Aval0n-: | damn thing |
| [02:23:05] | Aval0n-: | time out already |
| [02:23:07] | Aval0n-: | frickin ghost |
| [02:23:07] | otwin: | milesd: try a 'dkpg-reconfigure lirc' – under ubuntu you can choose your remote and get a proper lircd.conf |
| [02:23:15] | iamlindoro: | No |
| [02:23:19] | iamlindoro: | Do *not* do that |
| [02:23:34] | milesd: | otwin, yeah, that's just about the correct kernel module |
| [02:23:43] | milesd: | otwin, I'm reasonably sure I did that step right |
| [02:23:44] | iamlindoro: | just copy the correct lircd.conf, which is obvious when you look at the output of the ls command I gave you |
| [02:23:58] | iamlindoro: | keeping in mind that your remote is called "mceusb" *coughcough* |
| [02:24:10] | Josh: | milesd, If you get fed up, do not hesitate to go out and get an MCE remote – I got one with my toshiba laptop, and it was easily twice as good as the hauppage |
| [02:24:24] | iamlindoro: | For Christ's sake |
| [02:24:25] | milesd: | iamlindoro, huh, it's not called hauppage? |
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| [02:24:33] | iamlindoro: | He *has* an mce remote |
| [02:24:40] | iamlindoro: | milesd: no. |
| [02:25:01] | ** milesd tries the mceusb one ** | |
| [02:25:15] | iamlindoro: | the hauppauge remote is a small grey remote that does not gome with the MCE editions... the remote w/ the windows button in the middle is the mceusb remote |
| [02:25:16] | milesd: | W00T! |
| [02:25:24] | milesd: | iamlindoro, worked like a charm, thanks for your help :) |
| [02:25:26] | Josh: | iamlindoro, sorry, wasn't trying to appear like an idiot – but for the record, why's he using the hauppage lirc.conf? |
| [02:25:27] | iamlindoro: | np |
| [02:25:35] | otwin: | iamlindoro: i configured a mce remote today (from appletv remote to mce) and those steps made it work – but you can of course manualy copy the lircd.conf |
| [02:25:39] | milesd: | Josh, turns out that was the problem :) |
| [02:25:44] | Josh: | meh *hides* |
| [02:26:00] | iamlindoro: | otwin: Not in debian they don't... debian != ubuntu |
| [02:27:02] | otwin: | iamlindoro: ok, i see – luckily there was somebody who knows better :) |
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| [02:28:10] | milesd: | iamlindoro, so does this just mean that the hauppage cards aren't shipping with hauppage remotes anymore? |
| [02:28:32] | iamlindoro: | milesd: no, it means that MCE editions ship with mceusb remotes... as one might expect |
| [02:28:46] | ** milesd looks up MCE ** | |
| [02:28:46] | iamlindoro: | and that non-mce editions ship with... you guessed it... hauppauge remotes |
| [02:29:17] | milesd: | oooh, ok |
| [02:29:26] | milesd: | that's starting to make sense |
| [02:29:31] | iamlindoro: | pvr-150 MCE package = *mce*usb remote... pvr-150 package = hauppauge remotes |
| [02:31:32] | milesd: | well, now I've got my TV card working and my remote working... or at least reporting sensible-looking things in irw |
| [02:31:40] | milesd: | on to apt-get install mythtv |
| [02:31:44] | milesd: | wish me luck |
| [02:33:27] | ** otwin is very happy with mythtv on appletv – works perfectly, at least for SD ** | |
| [02:34:14] | milesd: | otwin, out of curiosity, why did you decide to replace the apple software? |
| [02:36:11] | otwin: | milesd: why would I run it? in europe its nothing more than a standard media client, as itunes doesnt give tv shows here |
| [02:36:15] | Josh: | I need to buy an ATSC tuner |
| [02:36:37] | otwin: | milesd: besides i don't like the apple hw / itunes bundling |
| [02:37:17] | otwin: | milesd: and i got it from the US – here it's double the price |
| [02:37:51] | otwin: | milesd: it was the best solution to replace my epia frontend |
| [02:37:58] | milesd: | otwin, ah, I see |
| [02:38:20] | milesd: | otwin, your English is quite good, am I to assume you're from England? |
| [02:39:58] | ** Josh waits for 'cp -a' ** | |
| [02:41:01] | otwin: | milesd: no from tiny luxembourg, we speak better french and german – you just have to speak fr and ge here |
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| [02:49:15] | milesd: | otwin, cool. I've always envied people who learn lots of languages from birth... it gets *lots* harder as you get older |
| [02:54:52] | J-e-f-f-A: | otwin: It doesn't do HD yet? |
| [02:58:02] | Eemak: | milesd: use google translator:) |
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| [03:01:59] | PatrickDK: | google translator does a horrid job |
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| [03:09:58] | armbar: | hello |
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| [03:11:41] | darthanubis: | does anyone stream videos via mythweb across the internet here? |
| [03:12:12] | darthanubis: | and does ffmpeg transcode the whole video so that you can watch it from start to finish? |
| [03:12:48] | darthanubis: | If you pause the stream, does ffmpeg stop transcoding the rest, leaving you dead mid stream? |
| [03:13:33] | armbar: | darthanubis: not untill you leave the page |
| [03:14:01] | darthanubis: | well I don't leave the page caause I know that would kill it |
| [03:14:37] | darthanubis: | I just half hour into a hr show, only to have to start from the begining |
| [03:14:59] | darthanubis: | you'd think if it already transcoded the first half hour it'd start from there |
| [03:16:17] | armbar: | I notice when watching the show and the progess bar starts at the far left, stranfe things happen |
| [03:17:00] | darthanubis: | so ffmpeg has started, now I guess I just wait again until it finishes the wholse show |
| [03:17:15] | armbar: | of course you can only view up to the point of where ffmpeg has transcoded to |
| [03:17:30] | darthanubis: | because playing the "stream" get to the part ffmpeg has yet to transcode, then it stops |
| [03:17:38] | darthanubis: | right |
| [03:18:03] | darthanubis: | but ffmpeg seems to get tired of transcoding and just says %$#&^ it |
| [03:19:39] | darthanubis: | ahh ha |
| [03:20:33] | armbar: | I cannot figure out why mythtranscode is running but there are no jobs in the queue |
| [03:20:33] | darthanubis: | nvrmind:( |
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| [03:22:52] | ** armbar wonders if my issue is because of ffmpeg[3538]: segfault at aabf203f rip 2ba7867375c2 rsp 7fff27332790 error 6 ** | |
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| [03:44:00] | darthanubis: | so which is used mythexport or nuvexport? |
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| [03:45:50] | PatrickDK: | heh, need to add some kind of flag thing to mythvideo :) |
| [03:45:57] | PatrickDK: | I should patch that in sometime |
| [03:46:27] | keith4__: | i just changed from an LVM to three different folders in the default storage group... now the backend status in mythweb shows 0 disk space total. what gives? |
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| [03:48:00] | keith4__: | hmmm, it seems that it forgot the directories I added |
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| [03:56:24] | keith4__: | how do you delete a directory from a storage group, properly? the only way i've found to do it is to set it to the same name as an already-existing directory in the list, and then it disappears |
| [03:57:44] | darthanubis: | so which is used mythexport or nuvexport? |
| [03:57:51] | darthanubis: | or are they one and the same |
| [03:58:15] | armbar: | mythexport is not nuvexport |
| [03:58:21] | darthanubis: | on the nuvexport site, the script at the bottom leads to a page that calls the script mythexport |
| [03:58:43] | darthanubis: | http://tacomafia.net:8080/blog/2006/mythexport/ |
| [04:00:56] | iamlindoro: | That's just a script to call nuvexport |
| [04:01:12] | iamlindoro: | he named his script mythexport, he might just as well have named it giraffe |
| [04:02:58] | darthanubis: | it kinda matters if there is a real mythexport which would be confused with his script |
| [04:03:22] | iamlindoro: | only if you have fewer than two brain cells to rub together |
| [04:03:30] | armbar: | ha |
| [04:03:37] | PatrickDK: | heh? I don't even have one |
| [04:03:42] | PatrickDK: | kind of drunk |
| [04:03:49] | iamlindoro: | One is less than two ;) |
| [04:03:57] | darthanubis: | what an assinie statement |
| [04:03:58] | iamlindoro: | as is < 1 ;) |
| [04:04:15] | iamlindoro: | coming from a fellow who can't spell asinine, it doesn't mean much |
| [04:04:29] | darthanubis: | typo jackassss |
| [04:05:01] | iamlindoro: | yes, you are a typo jackass |
| [04:05:09] | iamlindoro: | but I'm sure you're lots of other interesting types of jackass, too |
| [04:05:14] | darthanubis: | no thats your whore of a mother |
| [04:05:25] | iamlindoro: | Riiiiiight |
| [04:05:34] | darthanubis: | stop trying so hard to be a freeper |
| [04:06:09] | darthanubis: | if you did not have anything smart to say you could have keep jerking |
| [04:06:16] | iamlindoro: | PatrickDK: See what I'm always saying? This room loses fifty IQ points after dark |
| [04:06:33] | iamlindoro: | it's "kept" jerking, darling |
| [04:06:39] | PatrickDK: | na, I lost 50iq after the drinks I had |
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| [04:06:46] | darthanubis: | wooo spelling police |
| [04:06:58] | darthanubis: | you can catch typos at midnight |
| [04:07:03] | darthanubis: | your so 133t |
| [04:07:05] | darthanubis: | and cool |
| [04:07:14] | darthanubis: | and snarky |
| [04:07:36] | PatrickDK: | someones alittle of god power would be useful |
| [04:07:57] | PatrickDK: | guess we could ask the nsa to deal with him |
| [04:08:14] | darthanubis: | you a freeper too huh? |
| [04:08:21] | darthanubis: | geez |
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| [04:10:14] | iamlindoro: | cat /dev/xboxlive > #mythtv-users |
| [04:14:27] | iamlindoro: | mv darthanubis #ubuntu-mythtv |
| [04:14:32] | iamlindoro: | rm -rf #ubuntu-mythtv |
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| [04:20:16] | keith4__: | i don't remember the answer i got yesterday.... can I move crap between storage groups while the server is running? |
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| [04:23:28] | iamlindoro: | keith4__: As long as the files aren't being actively written, of course, it should be ok |
| [04:23:35] | iamlindoro: | or read, obviously |
| [04:23:57] | keith4__: | okay. so... oldest first. got it |
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| [05:01:48] | mlieber: | Hey .. does anyone know if its possible to send an ATSC signals from my STB so i can record them like OTR HD |
| [05:01:52] | mlieber: | or is that wishful thinking |
| [05:02:09] | PatrickDK: | OTR? |
| [05:02:31] | mlieber: | over the air |
| [05:02:46] | PatrickDK: | yes it is possible |
| [05:02:46] | PatrickDK: | oh, ota, no |
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| [05:02:55] | PatrickDK: | but it's possible for it to send atsc, on a few stb models |
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| [05:03:15] | PatrickDK: | and it's even rarer that your cable company is broadcasting those channels in atsc format |
| [05:03:25] | mlieber: | im just looking for some way to record and preserve content |
| [05:03:39] | mlieber: | why is it possible to record over the air HD |
| [05:03:43] | mlieber: | but not over cable ? |
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| [05:03:54] | mlieber: | is OTR lesser quality ? |
| [05:03:55] | PatrickDK: | cable is encrypted |
| [05:04:03] | PatrickDK: | cable isn't atsc, in the usa atleast |
| [05:04:08] | PatrickDK: | OTR? |
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| [05:04:39] | PatrickDK: | more than likely cable is worse quality |
| [05:04:59] | mlieber: | why is it so impossible then to record hd from cable |
| [05:05:05] | PatrickDK: | expecially comcast |
| [05:05:16] | PatrickDK: | I answered that 3 fucking times |
| [05:05:18] | PatrickDK: | night |
| [05:05:32] | mlieber: | encryption makes it a larger file ? |
| [05:05:40] | mlieber: | no ive decoded using a set top box |
| [05:06:15] | mlieber: | firewire ports on my STB = disabled |
| [05:09:31] | keith4__: | i record HD from cable |
| [05:09:36] | keith4__: | it is definitely not impossible |
| [05:10:02] | mlieber: | really ? |
| [05:10:08] | mlieber: | using firewire ? or what ? |
| [05:10:21] | keith4__: | using a pchdtv5500 |
| [05:10:27] | mlieber: | and does your compression lower the quality ? |
| [05:10:29] | keith4__: | best $129 i ever spent |
| [05:10:44] | keith4__: | 5G/hr |
| [05:10:48] | keith4__: | it's fantastic quality ;-) |
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| [05:11:26] | mlieber: | if thats my solution i wont hesitate to spend the money thank you ! |
| [05:11:45] | keith4__: | it won't work if your digital cable is encrypted, of course |
| [05:12:02] | keith4__: | start by getting a QAM tuner, and see if you can get any HD channels |
| [05:12:02] | mlieber: | oh crap |
| [05:12:15] | keith4__: | for example, an HDTV with a built-in tuner |
| [05:12:19] | mlieber: | What if i just want to take the content from my STB |
| [05:12:31] | mlieber: | that is already decrypted |
| [05:12:45] | keith4__: | well, then you're stuck with firewire, or ir blaster |
| [05:12:59] | keith4__: | ir blaster AND a digital/QAM tuner |
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| [05:14:07] | mlieber: | how many chans do you get where you are ? |
| [05:14:38] | keith4__: | what type of channels? |
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| [05:14:44] | keith4__: | i get all kinds of channels |
| [05:15:08] | mlieber: | i will try it out |
| [05:15:28] | mlieber: | so with the IR blaster thing .. my QAM would just stay tuned to chan 3 ? |
| [05:15:33] | keith4__: | there's a digital equivalent of every analog channel, plus a few digital channels that I don't have on analog, and about a dozen HD channels, unencrypted |
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| [05:16:04] | mlieber: | and I would IR blast the chan on the STB ? |
| [05:16:11] | keith4__: | yah |
| [05:16:19] | keith4__: | but, i hear mixed results with IR blaster |
| [05:16:27] | mlieber: | b/c of the delays ? |
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| [05:16:39] | keith4__: | not sure, I've never had to resort to it |
| [05:17:02] | mlieber: | do you have RS232 control ? |
| [05:17:08] | mlieber: | or just use separate remotes ? |
| [05:17:20] | mlieber: | oh nm ... all on the PC |
| [05:17:20] | keith4__: | eh? |
| [05:17:29] | mlieber: | haha disregard |
| [05:19:41] | mlieber: | thank you |
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| [05:26:05] | Aval0n: | hmm mythtv keeps cutting shows off by about 3 minute |
| [05:26:08] | Aval0n: | minutes* |
| [05:26:13] | Aval0n: | is there a way to adjust that? |
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| [05:40:34] | keith4__: | fix your clock |
| [05:40:56] | keith4__: | or, it might be a little game your cable company plays just to screw with tivos |
| [06:08:10] | darthanubis: | ffmpeg is not transcoding the whole hour show to stream via mythweb |
| [06:08:12] | Aval0n: | I don't think my clock is wrong |
| [06:09:24] | Aval0n: | clock is correct |
| [06:09:34] | Aval0n: | it clips off the end of every show early |
| [06:10:04] | Aval0n: | myth just uses the normal system time correct? |
| [06:10:13] | Aval0n: | aval0n@htpc:~$ date |
| [06:10:13] | Aval0n: | Fri Apr 18 23:09:03 MST 2008 |
| [06:17:06] | clever: | Aval0n: in the options you can have it record x seconds early/late |
| [06:17:20] | clever: | to catch the lag in your clock(or the channel) |
| [06:17:48] | clever: | the global padding can still get cut off if another show needs to record |
| [06:18:06] | clever: | yu can also pad a certain rule by x minutes(causes more conflicts) |
| [06:24:59] | Aval0n: | clever thanks |
| [06:25:06] | Aval0n: | it's odd though I never had this problem before |
| [06:25:15] | Aval0n: | till I updated to the 21-fixes branch |
| [06:25:23] | clever: | my shows on fri night are allmost allways ending 2mins late |
| [06:25:34] | Aval0n: | I'de rather late than early |
| [06:25:51] | clever: | that means the final 2mins are in the next recording:P |
| [06:26:00] | clever: | so if i delete the show after it i loose the ending |
| [06:26:18] | Aval0n: | eek |
| [06:26:42] | clever: | we need to allow overlaping recordings on the same channel |
| [06:26:55] | clever: | so it can record to 2 files at once |
| [06:27:09] | Aval0n: | that would be cool :) |
| [06:37:54] | FinnTux: | dvb-t and multirec. lucky me :) |
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| [06:41:38] | Mousey: | why do recordings JUST GO MISSING after being recorded?? wtf?! |
| [06:41:54] | ** Mousey is not at all understanding the changes in .21 ** | |
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| [06:49:23] | clever: | FinnTux: multirec cant overlap things on the same stream from what ive heard |
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| [06:49:33] | clever: | FinnTux: only different streams within the same multiplex |
| [06:53:10] | FinnTux: | clever, ah ok. well, let's say "dvb-t, 4 tuners and multirec, lucky me" then :) |
| [06:53:47] | FinnTux: | btw, I have extra 5 min on all my recordings |
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| [07:01:52] | clever: | lol |
| [07:02:10] | clever: | FinnTux: a single framegrabber and a single pvr150 here |
| [07:02:17] | clever: | and the modules for them conflict |
| [07:02:20] | clever: | so i cant run both at once |
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| [08:04:33] | rooaus: | clever: It can and does for me, I have (+5,+15) hard padding for all my rules, I believe the soft padding is dropped though. |
| [08:04:52] | clever: | yes the soft padding will be droped |
| [08:04:58] | clever: | and thats the problem |
| [08:05:06] | clever: | 2 shows back2back on the same channel |
| [08:05:23] | clever: | the softpading is lost and several minutes of one winds up in the others file |
| [08:05:43] | clever: | another option somewhere makes it avoid back2back things |
| [08:06:01] | clever: | but that doesnt fully fix it for once every few months type shows |
| [08:06:04] | clever: | which cant be moved |
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| [09:35:29] | Dibblah: | clever: Are you actually seeing that behavior? |
| [09:35:59] | Dibblah: | Because I don't think that's as-designed – Multirec should be able to write out from one recorder to two files – At least on DVB sources. |
| [09:36:32] | clever: | i dont have any dvb things |
| [09:36:42] | clever: | but from what ive heard it cant record the same stream to 2 files |
| [09:36:59] | clever: | the softpading of 2 shows(on the same stream) wont overlap |
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| [09:53:06] | SnouF: | \nick [mythtv-fr] SnouF |
| [09:53:09] | SnouF: | oups |
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| [09:58:18] | SnouF: | Y'a t-il des francophones du l'install party à la vilette présent ? |
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| [10:01:30] | cesman: | hello SnouF |
| [10:01:48] | SnouF: | Tu es à l'install party ? |
| [10:01:55] | cesman: | Yes |
| [10:02:13] | SnouF: | Y'a du monde ? |
| [10:02:24] | cesman: | now, that one I don't understand |
| [10:03:10] | justinh: | I think that means "is it for everybody?" |
| [10:03:26] | cesman: | in that case, yes |
| [10:03:37] | justinh: | everybody/anybody- can anybody go? I think... my French is very rusty |
| [10:03:46] | cesman: | better than mine ;) |
| [10:04:51] | SnouF: | They are a install party in Paris (france) |
| [10:07:09] | cesman: | http://knoppmyth.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=18074 |
| [10:07:14] | SnouF: | and they have given the address of that chat |
| [10:07:27] | SnouF: | Yes |
| [10:08:01] | SnouF: | its 12:00 in france ;) |
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| [10:36:49] | Dibblah: | clever: Once again, are you actually seeing this? |
| [10:36:55] | Dibblah: | Or is it just an expectation? |
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| [11:07:49] | xand: | how can I debug a problem whereby mythfrontend just exits a few seconds after selecting "Watch TV"? it shows hte channel information on a black background (I guess BBC3 is off air atm) and then dies... nothing on STDERR |
| [11:08:00] | xand: | I can watch recordings though |
| [11:09:05] | cesman: | xand: start w/ the backend log |
| [11:09:44] | cesman: | xand: perhaps 'mythfrontend -v all' as well |
| [11:10:36] | xand: | hmm, backend log has no errors... but restarting it fixed it :| |
| [11:10:51] | xand: | oh dear, pressing up key to change channel = crash |
| [11:11:00] | xand: | that seems to be the trigger |
| [11:15:43] | xand: | Segmentation fault |
| [11:15:44] | xand: | yay |
| [11:15:49] | xand: | on both frontends |
| [11:16:06] | xand: | mythfrontend[6092]: segfault at 00000000 eip b5b9d6b7 esp ac1d41a8 error 6 |
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| [11:19:24] | clever: | Dibblah: i havent seen it, but people in here have explained it like that before |
| [11:19:37] | clever: | get me a dvb card and i could try and proove it:P |
| [11:19:50] | clever: | dvb-s or dvb-t would work |
| [11:20:10] | clever: | posibly dvb-c |
| [11:21:57] | xand: | hmm, recording still working fine, just not watching :S |
| [11:22:02] | xand: | (live) |
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| [11:28:44] | Dibblah: | clever: It was true before multirec, I don't believe it is true now. |
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| [11:56:53] | rooaus: | Dibblah: I believe that the scheduler drops the pre/post-roll (softpadding) instead of overlapping the recordings, I do recall some discussion about that being the designed behaviour but don't recall the reasoning. |
| [12:00:11] | rooaus: | I use hard padding all the time and overlapping recordings definitely work from the same tuner. I think pre/post-roll behaviour is as expected as it was not intended to add extra time to recordings but account for tuner startup delays etc. |
| [12:06:46] | justinh: | run that by me again.. multirec kinda works with non-dvb devices too?! |
| [12:11:31] | justinh: | and no I don't mean ZOMG in the stupid sense – I realise you can only record one channel at the same time with an analogue tuner – asking whether multiple files can be recorded for better show overlaps ;) |
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| [13:03:29] | kavorka^: | on rebooting my pc, mythbackend is crashing on startup...the log file says 'Unable to read configuration file mysql.txt', but this file is still there and is readable....can anyone help? |
| [13:04:41] | cesman: | still where? |
| [13:05:06] | Hoxzer: | Are you running mythbackend with same user as you try to open mysql.txt ? |
| [13:05:10] | cesman: | /etc/mythtv or ~/.mythtv? |
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| [13:06:14] | kavorka^: | Hoxzer: mythbackend runs as root *i think*...its been a while..how do i find out? |
| [13:06:33] | kavorka^: | cesman: ~/.mythtv |
| [13:06:44] | Hoxzer: | kavorka^: ps -A |
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| [13:07:05] | Hoxzer: | ps -U root | grep mythbackend |
| [13:07:53] | kavorka^: | problem is it isnt running.....so theres no process |
| [13:08:09] | Hoxzer: | How do you start mythbackend ? |
| [13:08:21] | kavorka^: | im pretty sure its running as root since it starts up as a default service in gentoo |
| [13:08:47] | Hoxzer: | Usually mythbackend is runs as user mythtv. |
| [13:09:05] | cesman: | kavorka^: if it is starting as root, perhaps that is the issue since it is in ~/.mythtv |
| [13:09:07] | kavorka^: | brb...let me check the gentoo mythtv doco...i followed that |
| [13:09:25] | cesman: | assuming, you aren't running mythtv as root ;) |
| [13:09:37] | kavorka^: | cesman: good point...let me check |
| [13:11:51] | kavorka^: | ok..its definitely running as root...and ive discovered a duplicate file in /root/.mythtv/mysql.txt with the correct settings |
| [13:11:59] | kavorka^: | so why isnt it reading it? |
| [13:12:04] | kavorka^: | it used to work |
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| [13:28:33] | juNgl3: | hi all |
| [13:29:15] | juNgl3: | echo "2006-11–14 12:31:00" >/proc/acpi/alarm |
| [13:29:25] | juNgl3: | i can wakeup my pc using echo "2006-11–14 12:31:00" >/proc/acpi/alarm |
| [13:29:54] | juNgl3: | has anyone manage to configure mythtv to wakeup using this method rather than nvram |
| [13:30:48] | cesman: | hello juNgl3 |
| [13:30:55] | juNgl3: | hi Cesman |
| [13:30:55] | cesman: | juNgl3: check the wiki |
| [13:31:06] | juNgl3: | i have |
| [13:31:17] | juNgl3: | talks more about using nvram |
| [13:31:35] | cesman: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/ACPI_Wakeup |
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| [13:33:06] | juNgl3: | thanks cesman will give it a go |
| [13:33:19] | cesman: | you're welcome |
| [13:40:44] | Dibblah: | justinh: That was my expectation. I don't see why dvb should have been a special case. |
| [13:45:40] | rooaus: | justinh: Sorry, I have been beating on a new motherboard.... no, multirec only works for dvb at this point in time AIUI. |
| [13:47:09] | rooaus: | From what I understand, clever was inferring that multirec does not overlap shows because pre/post-roll (soft padding) was being dropped by the scheduler as reported by some users. |
| [13:51:35] | rooaus: | Don't buy a Gigabyte GA-EP35C-DS3R motherboard if you want to run a SMP enabled kernel *and* use a usb mouse and keyboard. I am able to boot 1 > 10 times if I have the keyboard attached. Frustrating! |
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| [14:38:19] | asathoor: | can I safely remove LIRC – i don't have a remote... and Ubuntu gives an error on boot saying that LIRC isn't configuret |
| [14:40:03] | mjj29: | yes, and it's not a serious error |
| [14:40:16] | mjj29: | (it stops lirc working, but shouldn't affect anything else |
| [14:40:22] | asathoor: | thanx |
| [14:40:34] | mjj29: | let me know if it does though, since I'm the Debian maintainer, and they probably are just using our packages |
| [14:41:11] | asathoor: | ok, I use Ubuntu, so it's a Debian "brother" |
| [14:42:11] | asathoor: | i'll try – one moment |
| [14:43:51] | mjj29: | well, they are derived from us, so I'd say 'child' |
| [14:44:18] | asathoor: | :) |
| [14:44:30] | asathoor: | and work it does removing LIRC |
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| [14:44:43] | asathoor: | thanx |
| [14:44:45] | mjj29: | cool |
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| [14:44:46] | mjj29: | np |
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| [14:46:10] | SoulBlade: | any idea why mythtv .21 would not play audio on live tv, but mplayer /dev/video0 plays it just fine? |
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| [14:47:29] | Anduin: | SoulBlade: what does the frontend log say? |
| [14:47:43] | SoulBlade: | where might i find that |
| [14:48:11] | Anduin: | There is no standard location, maybe /var/log/myth |
| [14:48:37] | SoulBlade: | oh money |
| [14:48:44] | SoulBlade: | log files are key! thanks |
| [14:48:50] | SoulBlade: | unable to create AudioOutput |
| [14:48:57] | SoulBlade: | Alsa support not compiled in |
| [14:49:08] | SoulBlade: | guess that'll do it |
| [14:49:33] | SoulBlade: | hopefully i can get a package/lib to fix this? |
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| [14:51:06] | HeMan: | Hi! Is there any audio filters that could be used when playing videos? |
| [14:51:49] | SoulBlade: | my audio was working fine in .20 |
| [14:54:43] | Anduin: | SoulBlade: look at the configure output, you are probably missing an ALSA dev package |
| [14:55:58] | SoulBlade: | mythfrontend --configure ? |
| [14:56:13] | SoulBlade: | or will i have to build from source |
| [14:56:23] | SoulBlade: | i just grabbed the binaries through synaptics |
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| [14:57:52] | Anduin: | SoulBlade: It seems unlikely that anyone who would bother to package MythTV would leave ALSA out, but yes I assumed you were building from source (where configure is a script to configure the build) |
| [14:58:19] | SoulBlade: | hmm |
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| [14:59:46] | SoulBlade: | well lets see if an update works.. |
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| [15:04:55] | neztiti: | GreyFoxx: hi man |
| [15:06:28] | SoulBlade: | darn an update didn't work – how can i see what mplayer is using for my audio output – maybe i can tell the frontend to use that |
| [15:06:48] | neztiti: | how i can search with sat ? not one transponder |
| [15:07:23] | SoulBlade: | haha funny... AO: [alsa] ... |
| [15:07:26] | neztiti: | i have to remark NIT? |
| [15:07:27] | SoulBlade: | damnit myth |
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| [15:15:19] | Aval0n: | anyone have issues with not being able to enable things with mythplugins |
| [15:15:43] | Aval0n: | every other time in my hundreds of compiles of source... including other 21-fixes branches --enable-aac worked |
| [15:15:50] | Aval0n: | now it simply ignores it and it's still disabled |
| [15:16:32] | justinh: | wrong libs maybe – possible they changed |
| [15:16:39] | Aval0n: | hmm |
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| [15:26:13] | sphing: | is there a wiki page or something similar tracking the new hauppauge device and myth support? |
| [15:26:31] | GreyFoxx: | nope |
| [15:27:01] | Aval0n: | hey greyfoxx: if my recordings have all started to be cut off early, what would you suggest I look at? my system clock appears to be correct |
| [15:27:05] | sphing: | ok thanks |
| [15:27:10] | Aval0n: | I _just_ updated to todays 21-fixes branch |
| [15:27:19] | Aval0n: | hoping that would help something |
| [15:27:29] | Aval0n: | just never used to do this |
| [15:27:58] | GreyFoxx: | Aval0n: Check your backend logs, see what the clock time was when it finished. If it finished at the right time according to your clock, and your clock is correct then your source could be off |
| [15:28:12] | GreyFoxx: | I have several channels that start/end a few minutes off all the time |
| [15:28:37] | GreyFoxx: | mostly affects my daughters stuff since she watches those channels |
| [15:28:46] | Aval0n: | ahh |
| [15:28:59] | Aval0n: | can you set a rule to records a few minutes longer on those channels? |
| [15:29:17] | GreyFoxx: | you set it per recording or use a global one that applies to all |
| [15:29:27] | GreyFoxx: | I have her recordings starting 3 minutes early |
| [15:29:27] | Aval0n: | ahh ok |
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| [15:29:40] | Aval0n: | excellent |
| [15:29:46] | Aval0n: | and that's under recording options |
| [15:29:46] | Aval0n: | ? |
| [15:29:57] | GreyFoxx: | I do it all with mythweb |
| [15:30:01] | Aval0n: | ahh ok |
| [15:30:04] | Aval0n: | excellent |
| [15:30:05] | Aval0n: | thank you |
| [15:30:05] | GreyFoxx: | I rarely use the program guide |
| [15:30:20] | ** GreyFoxx goes back to house cleaning ** | |
| [15:30:55] | justinh: | I didn't tend to use the programme guide – til I made it not suck :) |
| [15:31:16] | justinh: | http://homepage.ntlworld.com/justin.hornsby2/ . . . asswide1.png |
| [15:31:35] | Aval0n: | ;) |
| [15:31:39] | Aval0n: | nooo |
| [15:31:43] | Aval0n: | you leaked the link |
| [15:31:44] | Aval0n: | :P |
| [15:31:51] | Aval0n: | now noobs are gonna d/l and want support |
| [15:31:52] | Aval0n: | hehehe |
| [15:31:53] | justinh: | google can find em anyway |
| [15:32:15] | justinh: | sod it – if peeps want support they better learn how to whistle |
| [15:33:26] | Aval0n: | justinh: what do you like better for videos |
| [15:33:31] | Aval0n: | list view or browse |
| [15:33:37] | justinh: | neither |
| [15:33:41] | Aval0n: | oh? |
| [15:33:50] | justinh: | gallery or bust |
| [15:33:59] | Aval0n: | http://homepage.ntlworld.com/justin.hornsby2/ . . . asswide9.png |
| [15:34:02] | Aval0n: | that's gallery? |
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| [15:34:18] | elg: | any problem with 64 bits? |
| [15:34:32] | Aval0n: | elg: what?! |
| [15:34:35] | justinh: | yeah that's gallery |
| [15:34:38] | Aval0n: | ahh ok |
| [15:34:55] | Aval0n: | ok I'm off |
| [15:34:57] | elg: | Aval0n: if I run myth in a 64-bit os will I have trouble? |
| [15:34:58] | Aval0n: | see you guys later |
| [15:35:05] | Aval0n: | elg: ahh ok |
| [15:35:11] | Aval0n: | peace |
| [15:35:32] | Anduin: | elg: no |
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| [15:52:59] | SoulBlade: | can someone help me with this weird alsa issue? http://pastebin.org/30767 http://pastebin.org/30768 – i have 0.21.0+fixes16838–0ubuntu3 installed |
| [15:53:08] | SoulBlade: | for libmyth-0.21–0 |
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| [16:17:37] | edward4: | I am thinking of purchasing this card: http://www.buy.com/prod/visiontek-tv-wonder-h . . . 728816.html, but I am not sure if it is the same as this listing on mythtv.org: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/ATI_HDTV_Wonder |
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| [16:33:29] | justinh: | if it's not the same name chances are it's not the same thing. duh |
| [16:34:34] | Khonshu2: | it could be the same chipset, it could work with the same driver, gotta have the attitude? is why I don't mess around on here, always a bunch of bad attitudes... duh! |
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| [16:35:19] | justinh: | whether or not it has the same chipset was not the question |
| [16:35:26] | Khonshu2: | I know man |
| [16:35:42] | Khonshu2: | I just see no reason for the bad attitudes that abound on here |
| [16:35:51] | Khonshu2: | you answered his question |
| [16:35:53] | Khonshu2: | that's true |
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| [16:36:32] | justinh: | that ATI card is on the unsupported list here: http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/ATSC_PCI_Cards |
| [16:36:43] | Khonshu2: | that's cool, and a cool link to send to him |
| [16:36:47] | Khonshu2: | that'd been helpful |
| [16:36:47] | justinh: | so my guess would be that isn't a card to buy to use with linux |
| [16:37:08] | Khonshu2: | but I see alot of that "duh" sh*t, alot of sarcasm, and bad attitudes |
| [16:37:17] | Khonshu2: | all the stuff that turns people off to OSS |
| [16:37:23] | Khonshu2: | I wanna see OSS more adopted |
| [16:37:25] | Khonshu2: | more accepted |
| [16:37:35] | hume: | hi... I just installed a DVB card in the same machine that has a Hauppauge PVR-350 analogue card – and when i got the DVB card to work, the Hauppauge disappeard. Anybody knows if these conflict in any way? Or how to get the Hauppauge back up? |
| [16:37:40] | justinh: | there's a _slim_ chance it might work with drivers from linuxtv.org's mercurial repository |
| [16:37:45] | Khonshu2: | and bad attitudes, and sarcasm about answering ?'s don't do that |
| [16:37:55] | Khonshu2: | I'd say your right |
| [16:38:13] | justinh: | Khonshu2: I don't care if linux becomes more widely adopted or not if I'm honest. I'm not one of those noob huggers |
| [16:38:53] | Khonshu2: | well, the more accepted it is, the more good developers may come to it, the more companies will support development on OSS or with OSS tools. |
| [16:39:06] | Khonshu2: | noob hugger, that's a cool expression though |
| [16:39:23] | Khonshu2: | this is a -users channel though |
| [16:39:26] | justinh: | the way ubuntu bigwigs go on makes me feel sick |
| [16:39:34] | Khonshu2: | really? |
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| [16:39:54] | justinh: | oh I'm sorry you can't be bothered to find out for yourself. here's everything on a plate |
| [16:40:03] | Khonshu2: | Ubuntu is getting acceptance and $ and tearing down walls with the big business of computers. |
| [16:40:11] | Khonshu2: | I feel you there |
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| [16:40:14] | justinh: | saints, all of em. must be tiring |
| [16:40:16] | Khonshu2: | but a link is simple |
| [16:40:20] | Khonshu2: | lol |
| [16:40:42] | Khonshu2: | I used to want a hacker os, when I was a kid. now I want what works, and works well. |
| [16:40:53] | Khonshu2: | which is why I use OSS now, not because of the novelty |
| [16:40:57] | Khonshu2: | because of the control |
| [16:41:06] | justinh: | so let's just reiterate what I've said. that particular card is listed as unsupported but there's a tiny outside chance there's driver support in the bleeding edge modules from linuxtv.org |
| [16:41:15] | Khonshu2: | I'm not running Linux to be cool, or elite, that's all bullshit |
| [16:41:23] | Khonshu2: | what works, and works well, that matters |
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| [16:41:44] | Khonshu2: | Myth does that, Linux does that, etc. I don't have to burn bridges with people so they think I'm cool though. |
| [16:41:56] | Khonshu2: | I'd like to see Linus's joke, world domination |
| [16:42:05] | Khonshu2: | and it has to be pleaseant to be that |
| [16:42:13] | Khonshu2: | the attitude around it does |
| [16:42:33] | Khonshu2: | Ubuntu guys have upset Solaris's dominance in it's market, by working with Sun, that's cool. |
| [16:42:36] | justinh: | if there were stable capture card drivers for windows, and a halfway decent PVR app that actually did what it says on the tin without needing oodles of CPU – no doubt I wouldn't be using mythtv- though maybe since I like having a diskless frontend... |
| [16:43:10] | Khonshu2: | I like the control of Myth, the flexibility of Linux, etc. I hate Winblows. |
| [16:43:34] | justinh: | things've changed a lot in the few years I've been using Linux so maybe there's hope. it'd just be nice if the overall level of clue was higher |
| [16:43:39] | hume: | anyone knows if there generally can be conflicts between a Hauppauge PCR-350 and a DVB-C card? |
| [16:43:45] | Khonshu2: | I could be sold on Mac OS for a Media Center though, actually this is what I'd recomend for noobs, stay away from the intracacy's of Linux. |
| [16:44:01] | justinh: | linux is way easier than it used to be |
| [16:44:08] | Khonshu2: | yea, used to, people in Linux were in the know |
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| [16:44:14] | Khonshu2: | I been on linux since 96 |
| [16:44:19] | Khonshu2: | but I wanna see adoptance |
| [16:44:25] | Khonshu2: | I dont' wanna be on BSD |
| [16:44:29] | justinh: | don't wanna make it too easy – sheesh imagine the idiocy level then! ;) |
| [16:44:38] | Khonshu2: | with little support, because of little adoption |
| [16:45:09] | Khonshu2: | I'm not interested in Lindows or whatever, I get that man. I just hate the bad attitudes, the geek nature on here sometimes. |
| [16:45:22] | justinh: | you get what you pay for |
| [16:45:26] | Khonshu2: | free |
| [16:45:50] | Khonshu2: | but the real developers, the real producers, tend to be nicer it seems. |
| [16:45:56] | justinh: | if you think my attitude is bad.. |
| [16:45:59] | justinh: | jesus |
| [16:46:02] | Khonshu2: | it's not so bad |
| [16:46:04] | Khonshu2: | whatever |
| [16:46:07] | Khonshu2: | but duh |
| [16:46:08] | Khonshu2: | duh |
| [16:46:09] | Khonshu2: | bye |
| [16:46:40] | Khonshu2: | you've asked ? |
| [16:46:59] | Khonshu2: | and if you did, you should get the same sarcasm |
| [16:47:16] | Khonshu2: | I know this stuff pretty good, been running Myth for 3 years + |
| [16:47:23] | Khonshu2: | but I had to ask a ? the other day |
| [16:47:30] | Khonshu2: | about IR blasting not working with a new MCE remote |
| [16:47:34] | Khonshu2: | and I found disdain here |
| [16:47:37] | justinh: | I'm all for stuff becoming easier in computing but hopefully not at the expense of making more users who don't give anything back because they don't want to learn anything new |
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| [16:47:46] | Khonshu2: | and wonderful help in the right direction in the LinuxMCE circles |
| [16:47:51] | sshirley: | hi everyone |
| [16:48:02] | Khonshu2: | and that good attitude has pulled my support in thier direction |
| [16:48:05] | Khonshu2: | hello |
| [16:48:24] | justinh: | nobody will care Khonshu2. there's no popularity contest or mythtv quest for world domination |
| [16:48:34] | Khonshu2: | and that matters, when you loose interest by potential developers because of attitudes |
| [16:48:40] | Khonshu2: | well, if you loose help to other circles |
| [16:48:41] | Khonshu2: | that hurts you |
| [16:48:44] | Khonshu2: | more programers |
| [16:48:47] | Khonshu2: | more code |
| [16:48:49] | Khonshu2: | simple math |
| [16:48:59] | Khonshu2: | better attitudes, better people |
| [16:49:01] | justinh: | seriously nobody really cares all that much |
| [16:49:05] | Khonshu2: | more anyhow |
| [16:49:15] | Khonshu2: | nobody cares about better code or more developers? |
| [16:49:21] | Khonshu2: | ok, I am in the wrong circle then |
| [16:49:24] | sshirley: | I have a question about the newest version of Myth. The new version has the recording groups thingy (default, livetv, etc). The older version didnt. In the older version, the livetv shows didn't show up in the recordings list, just what you specifically scheduled for recording. in the new version EVRYTHING shows up. How can I get the old behavior back? |
| [16:49:24] | justinh: | nobody cares if people go to other things |
| [16:49:41] | Khonshu2: | I'm gonna go get involved somewhere where they care about advancing they code |
| [16:50:18] | XPertKnobTwiddlr: | hey — dont judge based on 1 guys opinion |
| [16:50:24] | Khonshu2: | yea, I know that |
| [16:50:29] | XPertKnobTwiddlr: | :-) |
| [16:50:32] | Khonshu2: | too, I'm trying to prove a point |
| [16:50:33] | justinh: | where did I say nobody wants to see myth advance? All I said was people round here couldn't care if you go off & use something else |
| [16:50:34] | Khonshu2: | and loosing |
| [16:50:35] | Khonshu2: | lol |
| [16:51:04] | Khonshu2: | or program for something else, how many potential developers, potential helpers do you loose |
| [16:51:06] | Khonshu2: | whatever |
| [16:51:22] | sshirley: | Also, has anybody else had the experience with the new version that when you exit out of livetv mode, mythtv crashes? |
| [16:51:27] | justinh: | look at all the "bah mythtv sucks, I'm gonna use something else if you don't help me!" emails on the mailing lists. the words 'better off without' springs to mind |
| [16:51:45] | Khonshu2: | yea, that's fine with help |
| [16:51:50] | Khonshu2: | I'm not asking anyone to help me |
| [16:51:52] | Khonshu2: | I'll find my way |
| [16:52:21] | Khonshu2: | but I don't think that just because someone asks a question we have to become assholes... a little direction will keep people using, and some of those users will become contributors. |
| [16:52:42] | sshirley: | Bueller? Anyone? |
| [16:52:53] | sshirley: | :-) |
| [16:53:01] | justinh: | sshirley: don't use livetv but never saw that |
| [16:53:05] | Khonshu2: | sshirley: I've not seen this crashing issue. |
| [16:53:06] | sshirley: | The livetv thing is really annoying |
| [16:53:08] | justinh: | sounds like a bug report waiting to happen |
| [16:53:33] | sshirley: | you don't use livetv? maybe i'm using the wrong terminology. i mean watching tv on the myth box |
| [16:53:44] | justinh: | I don't watch TV on my myth box |
| [16:53:50] | justinh: | I watch recordings :) |
| [16:53:56] | Khonshu2: | and you could change the viewing of LiveTV programs in recorded shows in 20.2, I'd say there's a setting for it. |
| [16:54:03] | justinh: | everything is stuff I recorded earlier |
| [16:54:06] | sshirley: | I've reported it many times via apport. but i should go onto the site and do it |
| [16:54:23] | sshirley: | justinh: gotcha. recording doesn't even work really well |
| [16:54:58] | justinh: | apport? mythtv bug reports should come in to mythtv, to properly stand a chance of being looked at IMHO |
| [16:56:24] | sshirley: | ok |
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| [16:56:40] | justinh: | but then again a bug report without debug info is about as much use as a chocolate fire guard |
| [16:57:46] | justinh: | and to get debuggig symbols you really need to compile it with debugging enabled – and not many packages come with that option |
| [17:00:34] | sshirley: | Any ideas on the recording thing? why livetv stuff is showing up? |
| [17:00:47] | justinh: | erm.. prolly because it's set to show livetv by default |
| [17:01:59] | justinh: | previous versions would _only_ show live tv recordings by default. scheduled recordings would be conspicuous by their absence |
| [17:02:18] | sshirley: | I believe I set it otherwise. But where is that? |
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| [17:03:00] | EvilGuru: | :( Seems as if none of my two TVs support s-video (over SCART) |
| [17:03:56] | justinh: | sshirley: utils/setup > settings > TV > playback. fifth page of 9 |
| [17:04:17] | justinh: | "show 'livetv' recordings when using 'all programmes' filter" badabing |
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| [17:06:35] | sshirley: | Yeah. It's disabled. Meaning that LiveTV programs shouldn't show up at all. But they are. |
| [17:07:06] | sshirley: | That's why I'm confused. |
| [17:07:09] | sshirley: | :-) |
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| [17:08:47] | justinh: | well in that case I'd have to ask which filter you're using in 'watch recordings' then |
| [17:10:22] | sshirley: | Screen? :-) |
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| [17:12:08] | justinh: | eh? |
| [17:12:28] | justinh: | press M while on the watch recordings screen |
| [17:13:22] | sshirley: | Wait.....I think it's fixed. The setting 'save current setting..." saves the livetv setting when you've watched livetv and then of course will switch the that when viewing recordings |
| [17:13:28] | sshirley: | It's on 'Default' |
| [17:14:29] | sshirley: | On the watch recordings sacreen, what's 'Watch List'? |
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| [17:15:48] | justinh: | it's the list of stuff you've yet to watch |
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| [17:16:14] | justinh: | more accurately it's a list of recordings which do not have the 'watched' flag set |
| [17:16:33] | sshirley: | as opposed to all programs which will keep the shows that you've recorded AND already watched? |
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| [17:27:58] | sshirley: | ANyone here? |
| [17:28:06] | sshirley: | I have some serious question about recording HD |
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| [17:29:30] | sshirley: | I just got a great new HDTV. For the moment I only have SD cable. When I get HD service, I guess I will need to record HD content via a set-top box, right? If so, I need to fight with the cable company (Cox) to enable the firewire port. But in order to be able to watch tv PLUS record another channel, I guess I need two stb's, right? |
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| [17:33:59] | elg: | can I configure twinview/X/xinerama in such a way that the mouse and keyboard stay on the monitor, myth works happily on the TV (controlled by lirc), there's no spillover between them, and 3d acceleration on the monitor, xv on the tv? |
| [17:34:57] | elg: | an ideal situation would be two x sessions, :0 and :1. then I could get mouse/keyboard input with ctrl-alt-fX |
| [17:35:11] | elg: | would xv still work with myth on :1? |
| [17:35:38] | elg: | and would myth and the monitor both be able to work simultaneously that way? maybe not |
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| [17:58:51] | Khonshu2: | yea, there's several ways to dual head with Myth. I'd say that the seperate X sessions would be nice. I had Xinerama set up once, and that worked well. |
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| [18:04:47] | SoulBlade: | can i do a guide update from within the frontend? i know the guide data for the show im watching is incorrect |
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| [18:10:49] | Hoxzer: | ANybody has idea why does mythfrontend segfault when mythplugins is installed. AFAIK it crashes whenever entering somewhere in menu that req db. For example watch recordings or settings |
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| [18:13:07] | Asa_A: | does anyone here have any experience with mythtv with PulseAudio? I followed the instructions here (http://ubuntulinuxtipstricks.blogspot.com/200 . . . hardy.html), but my frontend still doesn't get any sound. |
| [18:13:07] | Hoxzer: | -v all doesn't show anythign interesting |
| [18:13:32] | elg: | Khonshu2: thanks |
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| [18:14:01] | Hoxzer: | http://pastebin.com/m55e29314 heres -v all output |
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| [18:15:25] | Hoxzer: | http://pastebin.com/mad0fa2f heres mythbackend log |
| [18:15:38] | Hoxzer: | so segfault doesn't happen when mythplugins isn't installed |
| [18:15:55] | Hoxzer: | That segfault was caused by going to "watch TV" |
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| [18:17:07] | Hoxzer: | This has really confused me. Really dunno why did it start doing this :// |
| [18:17:15] | Hoxzer: | s/start/started |
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| [18:40:06] | Hoxzer: | Ok, So Have to post about this to the mailing list :/ Really wierd |
| [18:40:25] | Hoxzer: | Make a proper backtrace of one segfault |
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| [19:04:50] | neztiti: | guys how i can scan on sat not on 1 transponder??? |
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| [19:42:46] | Hoxzer: | hmmm, "No symbol table info available." Does that mean backtrace aint working ? |
| [19:43:59] | GreyFoxx: | It means your app wasn't compiled with --compile-type=debug |
| [19:44:12] | GreyFoxx: | so debugging symbols were stripped out when it was installed |
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| [19:45:16] | keith4__: | does it matter where preview pngs live? i moved some of them to a different directory, in the Default storage group, and they don't show up in mythweb anymore |
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| [19:45:44] | Led-Hed: | did MythDVD and MythVideo get merged together? |
| [19:45:53] | stuarta: | yup |
| [19:46:51] | Led-Hed: | ok, when I try to Rip a DVD, the transcoder bombs because it cant access the log in /var/lib/mythdvd/temp/mtd.log |
| [19:47:11] | Led-Hed: | is there a way to point it to another log file? |
| [19:47:17] | Hoxzer: | GreyFoxx: >_< |
| [19:47:23] | stuarta: | dunno, not looked |
| [19:47:29] | Hoxzer: | :( but it was. This is so wrong |
| [19:47:40] | Hoxzer: | --enable-dvb --disable-audio-arts --disable-firewire --disable-hdhomerun --prefix=/usr --compile-type=debug |
| [19:47:45] | keith4__: | a hack would be to just create that log file |
| [19:48:07] | Hoxzer: | GreyFoxx: I am using 0.21 fixes if that explaisn anything... |
| [19:49:19] | Hoxzer: | http://pastebin.com/m4e770a67 here is the backtrace |
| [19:51:54] | Hoxzer: | :\ I wonder if that i sbecause some libs arent compiled with debug support |
| [19:53:02] | fatejudger: | Hi, I'm having trouble receiving channels outside of the 2–13 range. I've tried setting the frequency table to us-bcast, us-cable, us-cable-hrc, and us-cable-irc to no avail. I know that my card works fine as the channels come in when using Media Center. Does anyone have any suggestions? |
| [19:53:15] | ** Hoxzer is sensing mysterious I haven't done enough RTFM'ng feeling ** | |
| [19:53:44] | Led-Hed: | fatejudger, have you run mythfilldatabase? |
| [19:53:56] | fatejudger: | Led-Hed, yes, it prompts me to run it after every backend change |
| [19:54:17] | Led-Hed: | fatejudger, and the Guide Data is correct for your source? |
| [19:54:42] | fatejudger: | Led-Hed, I haven't subscribed to the guide yet |
| [19:54:59] | fatejudger: | Led-Hed, I wasn't sure I wanted to until I knew for sure it'd work |
| [19:55:17] | Led-Hed: | fatejudger, does your guide data show more than 13 channels? |
| [19:55:31] | Led-Hed: | in the program guide? |
| [19:55:51] | PatrickDK: | subscribe to it? it's free for 2 weeks |
| [19:55:55] | fatejudger: | Led-Hed, yeah, if I scan it using us-cable it "says" that it has found all those channels |
| [19:56:06] | Led-Hed: | ahh |
| [19:56:22] | fatejudger: | Led-Hed, however, when I try to tune to them, it's all static |
| [19:56:28] | Led-Hed: | what Capture card? |
| [19:56:33] | fatejudger: | Led-Hed, PVR-350 |
| [19:56:45] | Led-Hed: | humm, I have the same card |
| [19:57:07] | PatrickDK: | fatejudger, what is your cable connected to? |
| [19:57:12] | PatrickDK: | cable company or tv antenna? |
| [19:57:19] | fatejudger: | PatrickDK, USC cable |
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| [19:57:31] | fatejudger: | PatrickDK, I live in university housing |
| [19:57:49] | PatrickDK: | normal tv works on it? |
| [19:57:56] | fatejudger: | normal tv? |
| [19:58:06] | fatejudger: | you mean if I connect up a regular tv, will it work? |
| [19:58:10] | PatrickDK: | yes |
| [19:58:13] | fatejudger: | yeah, it does |
| [19:58:21] | fatejudger: | and so does Media Center on this computer |
| [19:58:23] | PatrickDK: | sounds like a listing issue to me |
| [19:58:29] | fatejudger: | listing issue? |
| [19:58:38] | Led-Hed: | guide data |
| [19:58:44] | fatejudger: | you mean I NEED the guide data? |
| [19:58:49] | PatrickDK: | no |
| [19:59:08] | PatrickDK: | but turning on the option to display empty channels would help maybe |
| [19:59:22] | fatejudger: | empty channels? |
| [19:59:33] | fatejudger: | it scans and adds all of the channels |
| [19:59:43] | fatejudger: | it's simply a problem of actually viewing them |
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| [19:59:56] | PatrickDK: | ya, but when you view you guide channel, dis it list them all? |
| [20:00:13] | fatejudger: | my guide channel? |
| [20:00:25] | PatrickDK: | fuck it, I give up :) |
| [20:00:34] | fatejudger: | oh, cmon man |
| [20:00:47] | fatejudger: | I'm sick and tired of using Windows for this reason |
| [20:00:54] | PatrickDK: | I can't think for you |
| [20:00:58] | PatrickDK: | you have to actually think |
| [20:01:33] | fatejudger: | if I could figure this out myself, I wouldn't be in here in the first place |
| [20:01:41] | Led-Hed: | fatejudger, when you are watching LiveTV, press the "M" key and choose Program Guide |
| [20:01:52] | fatejudger: | Led-Hed, thank you |
| [20:02:42] | fatejudger: | yeah, all the channels are listed |
| [20:02:54] | Led-Hed: | fatejudger, above 13 |
| [20:02:59] | fatejudger: | yes, above 13 |
| [20:03:06] | fatejudger: | I'm looking in the 40s right now |
| [20:03:24] | Led-Hed: | so where are you getting the data from? DataDriect? |
| [20:03:36] | fatejudger: | like I said, I haven't subscribed to any guide |
| [20:03:57] | Led-Hed: | so there are channels but no program info |
| [20:04:01] | fatejudger: | correct |
| [20:04:11] | fatejudger: | it goes all the way up to 115 |
| [20:04:17] | fatejudger: | but I know I don't get channels in that range |
| [20:04:40] | Led-Hed: | hold on |
| [20:04:49] | fatejudger: | it's pretty accurate up to the 100s |
| [20:05:43] | Led-Hed: | fatejudger, SchedulesDirect.com has a 7 day free trial. Sign up for it and see if that helps you |
| [20:05:53] | fatejudger: | okay, I'll try that |
| [20:07:29] | Led-Hed: | ok now for my question. |
| [20:07:31] | Led-Hed: | :) |
| [20:08:25] | Led-Hed: | when I try to Rip a DVD, it just sits there saying "Waiting for DVD" and mythfrontend.log has hundreds of these: |
| [20:08:26] | Led-Hed: | libdvdread: CHECK_VALUE failed in ifo_read.c:1415 |
| [20:09:19] | Led-Hed: | is this a buf in the dvd read lib? |
| [20:10:06] | Led-Hed: | apt-get says I already have the latest version of libdvdread3 |
| [20:21:29] | fatejudger: | hmm, it doesn't seem to have done anything but provide guide data |
| [20:22:09] | Led-Hed: | fatejudger, delete your source and capture card and try again |
| [20:22:17] | fatejudger: | alright |
| [20:22:56] | natoka: | fatejudger: you can always use other channel scan tools like w_scan and the like to create a channels.conf and import that into mythtv |
| [20:23:10] | natoka: | fatejudger: though it should not be necessary anymore |
| [20:23:19] | fatejudger: | okay, I'll keep that in mind |
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| [20:26:54] | fatejudger: | I told mythtv to fetch the channels using the guide data this time |
| [20:27:00] | fatejudger: | rather than doing a manual scan |
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| [20:31:07] | Led-Hed: | fatejudger, any lock with higher channels? |
| [20:32:09] | fatejudger: | mythfilldatabase is still running |
| [20:32:15] | Led-Hed: | ahh |
| [20:32:15] | fatejudger: | it's about to finish |
| [20:33:05] | fatejudger: | damnit, nothing |
| [20:33:19] | Led-Hed: | nothing where? the EPG |
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| [20:33:26] | fatejudger: | no, the EPG works |
| [20:33:36] | fatejudger: | I still get static on all channels >13 |
| [20:33:37] | Led-Hed: | there is channel info |
| [20:33:42] | fatejudger: | yeah |
| [20:33:45] | Led-Hed: | humm |
| [20:34:15] | Led-Hed: | but channels > 13 work fine on MCE |
| [20:34:20] | fatejudger: | yeah, they do |
| [20:34:46] | Led-Hed: | did you set the tunner0 to Your Cable source in MythSetup? |
| [20:36:11] | fatejudger: | I believe so |
| [20:36:18] | fatejudger: | yeah, the video source |
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| [20:36:48] | Led-Hed: | strange |
| [20:37:07] | fatejudger: | should I try a different frequency table? |
| [20:37:12] | fatejudger: | right now it's set to default |
| [20:37:20] | Led-Hed: | worth a shot |
| [20:37:44] | ** Led-Hed doesn't even remember where to set that. LOL ** | |
| [20:38:20] | fatejudger: | it's under the video source |
| [20:38:27] | fatejudger: | or you can change it when scanning channels |
| [20:38:40] | ** Led-Hed never scanns channels ** | |
| [20:38:55] | Led-Hed: | I just use the SchedulesDirect data |
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| [20:39:08] | fatejudger: | yeah, then you'd see it next to schedulesdirect config dialog |
| [20:39:56] | fatejudger: | aahhhh!!! |
| [20:39:56] | Led-Hed: | honestly MythTV has gotten so much easier to setup that I've forgotten a lot |
| [20:39:57] | fatejudger: | it works! |
| [20:40:01] | Led-Hed: | great |
| [20:40:09] | Led-Hed: | what Freq? |
| [20:40:20] | fatejudger: | cable |
| [20:40:22] | fatejudger: | us-cable |
| [20:40:27] | Led-Hed: | ahh |
| [20:40:31] | fatejudger: | it didn't work without the EPG data |
| [20:40:33] | Led-Hed: | I should have thought about that |
| [20:40:41] | fatejudger: | thanks a lot man |
| [20:40:49] | Led-Hed: | no problem |
| [20:41:00] | Led-Hed: | Glad to have another Myth Convert |
| [20:41:16] | fatejudger: | heh |
| [20:41:26] | fatejudger: | so why didn't it work without the guide data? |
| [20:41:49] | Led-Hed: | Not sure. |
| [20:42:02] | Led-Hed: | Maybe it needed the guide data to build the channel list |
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| [20:49:48] | fatejudger: | is it possible to resize the mythtv window or is it set at fullscreen? |
| [20:50:01] | fatejudger: | it looks like there's an option in the frontend, but it doesn't seem to do anything |
| [20:56:09] | Anduin: | fatejudger: fixed size at start but can be anything |
| [20:56:48] | fatejudger: | Anduin, it doesn't seem to allow adjustments |
| [20:56:50] | Led-Hed: | fatejudger, there should be a toggle to run MythTV in a Window. |
| [20:56:57] | fatejudger: | Led-Hed, yeah, I saw that |
| [20:57:12] | Anduin: | fatejudger: You cannot change the size once started |
| [20:57:13] | fatejudger: | Led-Hed, I checked it, restarted myth, and nothing changed |
| [20:57:14] | Led-Hed: | fatejudger, do you want it in a Window or FullScreen |
| [20:57:35] | fatejudger: | Led-Hed, I'd prefer to toggle between the two, but if I had to choose I'd rather have it windowed |
| [20:58:30] | Led-Hed: | fatejudger, I only run mine in FullScreen, never tried to run it in a Window. So I don't think I'd be much help to you. |
| [20:58:53] | Led-Hed: | When making UI changes you have to restart the frontend |
| [20:59:11] | fatejudger: | I saw that, but it didn't help |
| [20:59:37] | Led-Hed: | there is also an option to set the GUI size |
| [21:00:23] | keith4__: | can anyone recommend a USB IR receiver for use with lirc? |
| [21:00:47] | Anduin: | keith4 |
| [21:00:57] | Led-Hed: | keith4, there is a homebrew USB Lirc receiver. |
| [21:01:00] | Anduin: | keith4__: if you like the MCE remote, they are not bad |
| [21:01:10] | fatejudger: | Led-Hed, does your hauppage remote work properly with lirc? |
| [21:01:36] | Led-Hed: | fatejudger, I use the LIRC Serial Homebrew receiver with a Replay TV Remote |
| [21:01:49] | Led-Hed: | I like to mount my IR inside the Case |
| [21:02:07] | keith4__: | i already have plenty of remotes kicking around |
| [21:02:14] | Led-Hed: | fatejudger, but the Hauppague Remote did work the 1 time I tried it |
| [21:02:20] | keith4__: | i don't have any serial ports, though |
| [21:02:35] | Led-Hed: | keith4, not even a Com Header on the MoBo? |
| [21:02:39] | Led-Hed: | thats what I use |
| [21:02:44] | keith4__: | ah, good question |
| [21:02:50] | keith4__: | not sure |
| [21:03:11] | Led-Hed: | the Homebrew Serial is easy and cheap to build |
| [21:03:23] | Led-Hed: | RadioShack has all the parts you need. |
| [21:05:25] | Dagmar: | Just dont' bother us with a lot of questions about it after you've built it |
| [21:05:35] | Dagmar: | We have no control over what mistakes people make while soldering |
| [21:06:26] | Led-Hed: | dagar, well you really dont even have to solder but it does make for a cleaner device |
| [21:06:32] | Led-Hed: | oops. |
| [21:06:38] | Led-Hed: | that was for Dagmar |
| [21:07:18] | Led-Hed: | keith4, if you go the Homebrew route let me know I have a wiki with a parts list and some Pics |
| [21:07:42] | Led-Hed: | keith4__, ^^ |
| [21:10:30] | keith4__: | yah, i'd like to go homebrew |
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| [21:10:38] | keith4__: | the mobo does indeed have a serial header |
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| [21:11:15] | Led-Hed: | keith4__, http://wiki.ledhed.net/index.php/Category:LIRC |
| [21:11:22] | keith4__: | it looks like i could probably just cut a USB header and use that |
| [21:11:53] | Led-Hed: | the Lirc_Serial wont work over USB |
| [21:11:58] | Led-Hed: | ohh |
| [21:12:06] | Led-Hed: | you mean on the Mobo header |
| [21:12:27] | Bentley_: | hi all, can someone please tell me how i can force mythtv to re-create it's tables? I lost my db server, and just want the mythconverg tables to be recreated. Is there a .sql i can import? |
| [21:12:30] | keith4__: | yah |
| [21:12:35] | Led-Hed: | I use those old CD-Audio 3 pin connectors |
| [21:12:55] | keith4__: | yah, that'd probably work too. i have lots of random crap lying around, that won't be a problem |
| [21:13:20] | natoka: | Bentley_: there is the .sql script used to create them during initial setup – use that |
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| [21:13:25] | hobbynutte: | Bentley: locate mc.sql |
| [21:13:25] | keith4__: | i even have some perfboard kicking around here somewhere |
| [21:13:29] | Anduin: | Bentley_: mc.sql, then run mythtv-setup |
| [21:13:39] | juNgl3: | hi all |
| [21:13:53] | Bentley_: | thx all |
| [21:14:02] | juNgl3: | my mythguide is showing shows as 1 hour behind |
| [21:14:08] | juNgl3: | any idea on how to fix |
| [21:14:25] | Led-Hed: | juNgl3, NTP |
| [21:14:41] | juNgl3: | i turned of NTP |
| [21:14:43] | Anduin: | juNgl3: or run 'data' and make sure the timezone is what you think it is |
| [21:15:01] | Anduin: | er 'date' |
| [21:15:02] | Led-Hed: | Anduin, you mean date? |
| [21:15:11] | Anduin: | I have a typing bias |
| [21:15:11] | juNgl3: | yea the date is correct |
| [21:15:22] | juNgl3: | haha |
| [21:15:25] | Led-Hed: | juNgl3, what about the timezone |
| [21:15:32] | Led-Hed: | or Daylight Savings |
| [21:15:39] | juNgl3: | am using UTC |
| [21:15:56] | Led-Hed: | juNgl3, the date command also lets you set the time |
| [21:16:13] | natoka: | juNgl3: nevertheless you need to set your timezone properly |
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| [21:17:40] | juNgl3: | yea |
| [21:17:48] | juNgl3: | the date is correct |
| [21:18:03] | juNgl3: | Sat Apr 19 22:15:49 UTC 2008 |
| [21:18:14] | juNgl3: | this is what i get when i execute date |
| [21:19:10] | juNgl3: | it was working ok until i setup wakeup |
| [21:19:22] | keith4__: | that's not right |
| [21:19:42] | juNgl3: | what u mean |
| [21:19:56] | keith4__: | that's not what time it is |
| [21:19:57] | keith4__: | UTC |
| [21:20:01] | keith4__: | it's an hour off |
| [21:20:12] | juNgl3: | am in the uk |
| [21:20:20] | keith4__: | i don't care where you are |
| [21:20:25] | keith4__: | that's not what time it is |
| [21:20:30] | juNgl3: | oh |
| [21:20:39] | juNgl3: | utc should be 9 then? |
| [21:20:49] | keith4__: | http://www.worldtimeserver.com/current_time_in_UTC.aspx |
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| [21:21:03] | juNgl3: | i see |
| [21:21:10] | keith4__: | thus |
| [21:21:20] | keith4__: | <Led-Hed> juNgl3, NTP |
| [21:21:28] | Led-Hed: | :) |
| [21:21:37] | juNgl3: | wil enable ntp now |
| [21:21:49] | stuarta: | date -u |
| [21:21:50] | juNgl3: | i was told ntp wont work with wakeup |
| [21:22:00] | keith4__: | what is wakeup? |
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| [21:22:13] | juNgl3: | wakeup pc on scheduled recording |
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| [21:22:23] | keith4__: | WOL? |
| [21:22:27] | juNgl3: | no |
| [21:22:34] | juNgl3: | using RTC |
| [21:22:34] | keith4__: | oh, ACPI wake |
| [21:22:37] | juNgl3: | yea |
| [21:23:44] | juNgl3: | ok i have started ntp daemon |
| [21:23:52] | juNgl3: | any commands fter that? |
| [21:24:58] | keith4__: | date |
| [21:25:41] | juNgl3: | ok time now shows as 9:25 |
| [21:25:56] | juNgl3: | for utc |
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| [21:28:03] | Led-Hed: | If you type "UTC Time" or "PDT Time" into Google, it gives you the current time. Cool! |
| [21:28:13] | juNgl3: | yea it 9 |
| [21:28:21] | juNgl3: | i have changed time to BST |
| [21:28:41] | Led-Hed: | Backwards Savings Time |
| [21:28:47] | juNgl3: | LOL |
| [21:28:55] | Led-Hed: | 1 hour off off |
| [21:29:07] | juNgl3: | shows time as 10:28 |
| [21:29:16] | juNgl3: | mythguide still 9:28 |
| [21:29:27] | juNgl3: | off key |
| [21:29:28] | Led-Hed: | restart the backend |
| [21:29:42] | juNgl3: | ok |
| [21:29:57] | juNgl3: | better yet restarting whole pc |
| [21:30:12] | Led-Hed: | thats what I mean |
| [21:30:22] | juNgl3: | nice |
| [21:31:16] | Led-Hed: | juNgl3, you should really consider NTP, PC RTC's are really inaccurate. Your shows will start recording late or too early |
| [21:31:42] | juNgl3: | yea i have enble ntp |
| [21:31:44] | stuarta: | restarting the whole pc is for windows users and hardware upgrades |
| [21:31:56] | Led-Hed: | stuarta, or lazy people |
| [21:32:00] | juNgl3: | lol |
| [21:32:02] | stuarta: | meh |
| [21:32:09] | juNgl3: | system time shows the correct time |
| [21:32:18] | hobbynutte: | juNgl3: Led-Hed is right, yous hould consider setting up an ntpd which synchronises to a ntp server with atomic clock |
| [21:32:21] | juNgl3: | guide shows 1 hour behind |
| [21:32:22] | Led-Hed: | lazy people sum up Windows users pretty well dont you think |
| [21:32:32] | hobbynutte: | stuarta: and kernel upgrades =) |
| [21:32:37] | juNgl3: | i have setup ntpd |
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| [21:32:42] | stuarta: | that too |
| [21:33:06] | Led-Hed: | juNgl3, is NTP working properly? |
| [21:33:10] | juNgl3: | yea |
| [21:33:14] | Led-Hed: | force it to update |
| [21:33:22] | juNgl3: | how do i do that |
| [21:33:31] | Led-Hed: | I dont remember off the top of my head |
| [21:33:42] | Led-Hed: | thats what GUI's are for |
| [21:33:47] | juNgl3: | lol |
| [21:34:02] | stuarta: | ntpdate before starting ntpd |
| [21:35:14] | juNgl3: | ok |
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| [21:39:03] | juNgl3: | right |
| [21:39:11] | juNgl3: | i only had ntp installed |
| [21:39:18] | juNgl3: | have just installed ntpd |
| [21:40:08] | juNgl3: | 19 Apr 21:38:22 ntpdate[4158]: no servers can be used, exiting |
| [21:40:08] | juNgl3: | t |
| [21:40:15] | ** Led-Hed hands juNgl3 some Windex and Paper towels so that he can read better ** | |
| [21:40:23] | juNgl3: | lol |
| [21:40:28] | hobbynutte: | juNgl3: read about ntpd |
| [21:40:33] | hobbynutte: | how to setup etc |
| [21:40:36] | Led-Hed: | juNgl3, you need to specify servers |
| [21:40:41] | hobbynutte: | you dont need ntpdate than anymore |
| [21:40:51] | hobbynutte: | man ntpd |
| [21:40:59] | hobbynutte: | man ntp.conf =) |
| [21:41:00] | ** Led-Hed will BRB ** | |
| [21:41:00] | juNgl3: | btw am runing debian |
| [21:41:12] | juNgl3: | ntp was working fine |
| [21:41:12] | hobbynutte: | than look in your distros wiki :) |
| [21:41:25] | Led-Hed: | juNgl3, do you have X installed on that box? |
| [21:41:43] | juNgl3: | do i still need ntpd then] |
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| [21:42:07] | Led-Hed: | juNgl3, you can do everything you need from within the clock setting in X |
| [21:42:42] | juNgl3: | yea thats what i did |
| [21:42:45] | hobbynutte: | juNgl3: ntpd is a good thing to have on an mythbox, cause it synchronises often to an time server, it even know how much the drift of your clock is |
| [21:42:55] | juNgl3: | ahh |
| [21:43:06] | hobbynutte: | and all other machiones in your lan can synchroinise to it |
| [21:43:18] | hobbynutte: | with ntpdate mymythbox.fu |
| [21:43:27] | Led-Hed: | juNgl3, you may be able to sync it to your firewall, many Firewall/routers can now act as NTP servers |
| [21:43:29] | hobbynutte: | so every front and backend has same time |
| [21:45:00] | juNgl3: | appears debian uses ntp |
| [21:45:07] | juNgl3: | mythtv:~# ntpq -p |
| [21:45:07] | juNgl3: | remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset jitter |
| [21:45:07] | juNgl3: | ============================================================================== |
| [21:45:07] | juNgl3: | +time2.ethz.ch 192.53.103.108 2 u 30 64 77 71.965 -0.412 1.784 |
| [21:45:07] | juNgl3: | *ntp2.usv.ro .PPS. 1 u 27 64 77 109.868 1.187 2.191 |
| [21:45:07] | juNgl3: | -lorien.prato.li 193.204.114.233 2 u 23 64 57 93.198 -8.047 1.108 |
| [21:45:09] | juNgl3: | +ntp3.usv.ro .PPS. 1 u 21 64 77 108.839 -0.057 2.247 |
| [21:45:22] | hobbynutte: | aah |
| [21:45:55] | juNgl3: | system clock show the correct time |
| [21:45:58] | hobbynutte: | so ntp is working on the box |
| [21:46:02] | juNgl3: | yea |
| [21:46:23] | juNgl3: | its when i go into guide |
| [21:46:28] | hobbynutte: | so any time probs that may now occur are myth, php etc realted |
| [21:46:29] | natoka: | juNgl3: cat /etc/timezone |
| [21:47:04] | juNgl3: | Europe/London |
| [21:47:42] | natoka: | juNgl3: hwclock |
| [21:48:01] | juNgl3: | Sat 19 Apr 2008 22:47:52 UTC -0.801323 seconds |
| [21:48:08] | juNgl3: | hmm weird |
| [21:48:10] | juNgl3: | date |
| [21:48:18] | juNgl3: | Sat Apr 19 21:47:30 UTC 2008 |
| [21:48:37] | juNgl3: | even though i changed from UTC to BST |
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| [21:49:08] | iamlindoro_: | hwclock --systohc |
| [21:49:26] | natoka: | ^^ nope |
| [21:49:45] | juNgl3: | should i ?? |
| [21:49:48] | natoka: | that's not going to make things better |
| [21:49:55] | juNgl3: | yea |
| [21:50:00] | juNgl3: | the hwclock is fine |
| [21:50:04] | juNgl3: | shows correct time |
| [21:50:06] | natoka: | yep |
| [21:50:18] | iamlindoro_: | ---hwtosys then |
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| [21:50:25] | iamlindoro_: | er hctosys |
| [21:50:44] | natoka: | iamlindoro_: that's also not going to help |
| [21:50:50] | juNgl3: | trying this /usr/bin/tzselect |
| [21:50:57] | natoka: | iamlindoro_: learn reading hwclock's output ... |
| [21:51:07] | Led-Hed: | lol |
| [21:51:24] | iamlindoro_: | natoka: How do you figure? |
| [21:51:46] | iamlindoro_: | If the two are off, you can sync one to the other and they will match, the end |
| [21:52:10] | stuarta: | i believe the point is they are already more or less in sync |
| [21:52:22] | stuarta: | -0.801323 seconds |
| [21:52:25] | natoka: | ^^ ;) |
| [21:52:49] | hobbynutte: | as i said before its software related |
| [21:52:50] | natoka: | some people simply seem to ignore output and/or manuals |
| [21:53:13] | stuarta: | however iamlindoro_ isn't one of those fyi |
| [21:53:47] | juNgl3: | how can i change the timezone via cli |
| [21:53:58] | juNgl3: | it currently says UTC |
| [21:54:10] | hobbynutte: | rtf debian wiki =) |
| [21:54:20] | juNgl3: | lol i have |
| [21:54:31] | juNgl3: | thats what ur here for great minds |
| [21:54:37] | hobbynutte: | sry i dont run debian, but should be easy |
| [21:54:44] | stuarta: | tzselect |
| [21:54:48] | hobbynutte: | just couldnt resist =) |
| [21:54:53] | juNgl3: | yea i have |
| [21:55:15] | juNgl3: | it sets thee everything but doesnt modify the zone |
| [21:55:15] | natoka: | juNgl3: use tzconfig |
| [21:55:32] | natoka: | tzselect is only for printing available timezones |
| [21:55:34] | ** stuarta doesn't have a tzconfig ** | |
| [21:55:35] | juNgl3: | nice one sir |
| [21:55:54] | juNgl3: | mythtv:/home/mythtv# tzconfig |
| [21:55:54] | juNgl3: | Your current time zone is set to Unknown |
| [21:56:12] | keith4__: | iamlindoro_: don't confuse them with your logic mumbo-jumbo |
| [21:56:21] | hobbynutte: | tzselect ? |
| [21:56:26] | hobbynutte: | would be logical |
| [21:56:27] | hobbynutte: | lol |
| [21:57:34] | iamlindoro_: | keith4__: Well, in their defense I did gloss over the offset, wasn't paying much attention. |
| [21:57:53] | natoka: | juNgl3: grep UTC /etc/default/rcS |
| [21:58:03] | juNgl3: | LOL |
| [21:58:12] | juNgl3: | tzconfig is fine |
| [21:58:32] | juNgl3: | mythtv:/home/mythtv# date |
| [21:58:32] | juNgl3: | Sat Apr 19 22:57:01 BST 2008 |
| [21:58:41] | stuarta: | \o/ |
| [21:59:09] | natoka: | lol |
| [21:59:17] | juNgl3: | guide now shows correct time but the entries ara an hour behind |
| [21:59:36] | juNgl3: | i guess i need to repopulate the table |
| [21:59:59] | natoka: | interesting though, because /etc/localtime has been missing as it seems, although /etc/timezone was present |
| [21:59:59] | stuarta: | probably a good idea, especially if you use a grabber |
| [22:00:10] | juNgl3: | yea |
| [22:00:28] | natoka: | hmm, never seen that one before |
| [22:00:45] | natoka: | probably something setup related |
| [22:02:48] | juNgl3: | nice one guys thanks for your help |
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| [22:07:18] | rushfan: | To integrate my HD channels with my anlog cable channels, I remappred them to the analog channel #s and delete those analog channels. But I still have to switch to the HD tuner to view the channels... How do I make it so when Im channel browsing it goes through both the HD and Analog channels? |
| [22:09:23] | iamlindoro_: | rushfan: There's no way, currently. Closest thing is pulling up the program guide and scrolling through that. |
| [22:09:37] | rushfan: | iamlindoro_: oh ok then |
| [22:10:31] | iamlindoro_: | If memory serves there was a patch that allowed them to "sort of" exist side by side submitted recently (ie while pressing up and down each tuner had a different color), but I'm not sure how far it got |
| [22:10:48] | iamlindoro_: | that is, channels on a given tuner had a given color |
| [22:11:29] | iamlindoro_: | http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/4501 |
| [22:11:33] | iamlindoro_: | That was it |
| [22:13:49] | rushfan: | iamlindoro_: yeah I dont feel like messing up myhttv again |
| [22:13:53] | rushfan: | but thanks anyhow |
| [22:14:03] | rushfan: | ill just stick to pressing 3.1 |
| [22:14:19] | iamlindoro_: | Well, even if you applied the patch, you'd still have to patch the themes, so it's more work than it seems |
| [22:14:36] | rushfan: | yeah |
| [22:15:02] | rushfan: | Im sure these things will be added as HD becomes more popular with mythtv |
| [22:15:14] | rushfan: | I know a-lot of people her use mythtv for HDTV but I doubt the mainstream users are |
| [22:15:24] | iamlindoro_: | Well, It's not really anything to do with HD or SD |
| [22:15:35] | rushfan: | Well, its with the changing tuners, is it not? |
| [22:15:50] | iamlindoro_: | any # of tuners > 1 will behave identically, even if they're all SD |
| [22:15:58] | rushfan: | oh |
| [22:16:07] | rushfan: | Is there likely to be a fix so you can mix them all together seamlessly? |
| [22:16:25] | iamlindoro_: | Well, that's sort of what that patch *is* |
| [22:16:33] | rushfan: | At any raet, my biggest concern is getting a better CPU so I can properly deinterlace HD |
| [22:16:41] | rushfan: | s/raet/rate |
| [22:16:54] | iamlindoro_: | As I recall from the discussion when it was submitted, there are a number of reasons that it's going to take a lot of work |
| [22:17:02] | rushfan: | a 3.0ghz E8400 overclocked to 3.5 ghz should do :) |
| [22:22:41] | rushfan: | iamlindoro_: any easy way to find movies being shown w/o search for actual movie titles? |
| [22:22:54] | iamlindoro_: | yeah, use the canned searches in mythweb |
| [22:23:13] | iamlindoro_: | Mythweb->Searches->Movies |
| [22:23:29] | rushfan: | ill emerge mythweb then |
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| [22:37:07] | jamesd__: | rushfan, unless you are liquid cooled... the box may be too loud to keep in the same room as the TV. |
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| [22:40:04] | EvilGuru: | I was looking in the mythtv backend setup application and saw that some DVB cards can deal with multiple streams at once. Has anyone had any luck with this? |
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| [22:42:12] | xand: | EvilGuru: yep |
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| [22:42:21] | xand: | well, if you mean multiple channels |
| [22:42:40] | EvilGuru: | Yes (I presume both channels need to use the same multi-plexed stream) |
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| [22:42:54] | xand: | yes |
| [22:43:08] | xand: | works for me using nova-t cards |
| [22:44:40] | EvilGuru: | (I have a Nova-T card!). How many channels did you set to be able to record at once? |
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| [22:45:54] | xand: | by default it does 2, I haven't tried any more than that |
| [22:46:25] | xand: | my mythtv machine is currently misbehaving... mythtfrontend segfaults whenever i watch live tv, on any frontend machine :| |
| [22:46:46] | EvilGuru: | xand: Have you attached gdb to it? |
| [22:46:58] | EvilGuru: | That way you can get a backtrace and find out exactly where things are going wrong |
| [22:49:48] | xand: | I tried with strace but got bored... of course it's decided to work now |
| [22:50:02] | xand: | it seems to be when it starts on an off-air channel and I change channel |
| [23:05:25] | Dagmar: | Interesting |
| [23:10:07] | keith4__: | i bet i can harvest most of these lirc receiver components from a dead vcr |
| [23:10:35] | Dagmar: | Think carefully |
| [23:10:42] | Dagmar: | Is this worth your _time_? |
| [23:11:11] | Dagmar: | Thirty bucks will get you one pre-made from several different vendors, and that takes all of five minutes to deal with ordering |
| [23:11:40] | keith4__: | sure, but $30 will get me a case of good beer |
| [23:12:01] | keith4__: | or 2 cases of shitty beer |
| [23:12:36] | Dagmar: | Or an entire afternoon free |
| [23:13:21] | keith4__: | hmmm. true. who sells them pre-made? |
| [23:13:42] | Dagmar: | There's at least three places listed on the wiki |
| [23:13:58] | keith4__: | k |
| [23:14:09] | Dagmar: | If you look near the Homebrew LIRC hardware category you should be able to find where we've rounded them up and listed them |
| [23:14:37] | Dagmar: | "near" speaking in the sense of distance-as-mouse-clicks |
| [23:16:48] | keith4__: | yah... having some trouble finding this list |
| [23:17:04] | Dagmar: | 1 sec |
| [23:18:24] | Dagmar: | Someone moved the damn things *sigh* |
| [23:18:25] | Dagmar: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/IR_-_Ext . . . _IR_receiver |
| [23:18:38] | Dagmar: | There really should be a test to prove one understands how to _organize_ information before people move stuff around |
| [23:18:53] | Dagmar: | Right in the middle of that page under "Readybuild — Retail" are four entries |
| [23:19:10] | keith4__: | ah, that was about the *only* page I didn't check |
| [23:19:13] | Dagmar: | I ain't promotin' anything, but I've got the IguanaSoft one |
| [23:19:34] | keith4__: | come to think of it...I think my pchdtv5500 came with an ir receiver |
| [23:19:44] | Dagmar: | That'll almost certainly work |
| [23:20:19] | Dagmar: | It's gonna just be a matter of getting it connected to the PC |
| [23:22:00] | Dagmar: | Hah. The transciever I have has gone down in price since I bought it. |
| [23:22:57] | keith4__: | does the irblaster work in reverse? |
| [23:23:02] | Dagmar: | No |
| [23:23:08] | Dagmar: | "Blasters" only output IR |
| [23:23:10] | keith4__: | didn't think so |
| [23:24:00] | keith4__: | any reason not to use USB? |
| [23:24:04] | Dagmar: | nope. |
| [23:24:44] | Dagmar: | About the only even piddling reason would be that technically if you already have a serial port, thats _the majority_ of the hardware needed right there, so involving USB is just a bit of unneeded complexity in that case, but USB works fine |
| [23:24:49] | Dagmar: | It's just more expensive a solution |
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| [23:25:42] | Dagmar: | You can even use a serial reciever on a USB<->serial converter, but only after careful examination of the converter |
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| [23:26:06] | Dagmar: | *some* USB<->serial converters expect RS-232 and *only* RS-232-like communications |
| [23:26:26] | Dagmar: | Most serial IR recievers are just flipping one of the lines hi/low depending on what they're "seeing" |
| [23:26:49] | rushfan: | If you dont have a serial port like me, just get a Media Center remote that comes wiht a usb ir reciever |
| [23:27:12] | Dagmar: | BTW, it's worth mentioning that most laptop FIR ports (and desktop motherboards that have them) are not useable for this at all |
| [23:27:50] | Dagmar: | ...because the only interface you get to them from the "inside" of the machine is on the far side of the happy little packety protocol thingie they use |
| [23:28:13] | keith4__: | yah, i saw that |
| [23:28:23] | Dagmar: | Kinda like ther'es no way to use an ethernet card to turn a simple light off and on by connecting it to two of the wires on an RJ-45 plug |
| [23:28:38] | keith4__: | it seems that I'd have to pay for send and receive ability, although I only want to receive |
| [23:28:39] | Dagmar: | FIR is pretty fun for intra-laptop comms tho. Heh |
| [23:30:13] | Dagmar: | Check eBay |
| [23:30:34] | Dagmar: | There's someone who as of last year was making a point of *always* having 2–3 LIRC serial recievers for like $!2 |
| [23:30:45] | keith4__: | wow, the USB-UIRT is dirt cheap |
| [23:30:52] | Dagmar: | Yeah, most of them are very cheap |
| [23:30:53] | keith4__: | wait, no. just kidding |
| [23:31:03] | Dagmar: | Okay, for a USB homebrew device it's cheap |
| [23:31:04] | Dagmar: | Heh |
| [23:31:26] | Dagmar: | Damn all I see is the blaster on eBay right now |
| [23:31:29] | PatrickDK: | heh, I just went logitech dinovo instead |
| [23:31:50] | Dagmar: | IguanaSoft does have the schematics and pcboard layout available right there on their site tho |
| [23:32:04] | Dagmar: | ...and DigiKey is the bomb for online buying of fiddly electronic parts |
| [23:32:13] | PatrickDK: | mouser :) |
| [23:32:16] | keith4__: | hell, amazon has them |
| [23:33:09] | Dagmar: | dinovo is pretty but way too expensive for me |
| [23:33:20] | PatrickDK: | lucky I got mine for free |
| [23:33:32] | PatrickDK: | ceo wanted one, so they got two of them |
| [23:33:38] | keith4__: | i wonder if the IR receive from the pchdtv5500 would work plugged into the iguanasoft usb device |
| [23:33:52] | PatrickDK: | and well, they discided it chewed batteries too quick (ceo is too lazy to change them) |
| [23:33:55] | PatrickDK: | so they went back to wired |
| [23:34:08] | Dagmar: | keith: Huh? |
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| [23:34:51] | Dagmar: | The Iguanaworks units are pretty much just complete by themselves |
| [23:35:01] | keith4__: | yah, but they options |
| [23:35:05] | Dagmar: | There's nothing you can plug *into* their USB device |
| [23:35:19] | keith4__: | oh yes there is |
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| [23:35:29] | keith4__: | http://iguanaworks.net/product1.psp |
| [23:35:40] | Dagmar: | Oh you're talking about hte option bits |
| [23:35:51] | keith4__: | oh, maybe it's just for IR emitters |
| [23:36:03] | keith4__: | it's not clear, really |
| [23:36:25] | ** keith4__ goes to look for the pchdtv5500 box ** | |
| [23:36:43] | PatrickDK: | the plugs are for plugging in transmitters |
| [23:36:45] | PatrickDK: | not receivers |
| [23:36:54] | Dagmar: | And you shouldn't need them for recievers |
| [23:37:07] | ** J-e-f-f-A|wintel is in recovery 'hell'... My backend seems to have mostly commited suicide... My tuners wern't working properly so I re-booted, only to come to "Recovery Console" with a failed disk in my raid5... ** | |
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| [23:37:11] | Dagmar: | There's _very few_ things that use the third frequency that many recievers won't pick up |
| [23:37:20] | Dagmar: | ...and damn near none of them are IR hand-sized remotes |
| [23:37:37] | Dagmar: | There's a total of three that 99.999% of the IR stuff like this uses |
| [23:37:44] | Dagmar: | er three freqencies |
| [23:38:06] | ** J-e-f-f-A|wintel ... and I wasn't able to get the raid started, as it seems (somehow) the raid5 driver is missing from the kernel... (huh? Not sure how that's possible... it was RUNNING that kernel all along...) ** | |
| [23:38:28] | ** J-e-f-f-A|wintel --- Oh well, I'm migrating to a new box anyways, this just accelerates my migration plan... ** | |
| [23:38:42] | iamlindoro: | J-e-f-f-A|wintel: Perhaps the recovery mode boots a minimal kernel? |
| [23:39:07] | Dagmar: | I'd agree |
| [23:39:19] | J-e-f-f-A|wintel: | iamlindoro: Possible... but then again, I got it to boot up by commenting out the entries in the fstab, but the network and raid5 still aren't present... |
| [23:39:42] | Dagmar: | At the risk of being insulting, did you make sure the modules are actually loaded? |
| [23:39:49] | iamlindoro: | Meh, I just work here :) |
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| [23:40:22] | J-e-f-f-A|wintel: | Dagmar: Nope, not sure how to do that... I've been using Linux with myth for a few years now, but am still somewhat of a noob for the more technical stuff... |
| [23:40:28] | Dagmar: | I would imagine things inside an environment _named_ a "rescue environment" might not be quite so aggressive about autoprobing modules |
| [23:40:56] | Dagmar: | Use lsmod to see what's loaded, and then modprobe as necessary to load the modules needed to run the RAID |
| [23:41:48] | iamlindoro: | you probably want md_mod and raid456 IIRC |
| [23:41:50] | J-e-f-f-A|wintel: | Dagmar: just a handful of stuff... looks like sata/ata/scsi/ext3 and usb... not much... |
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| [23:42:17] | Dagmar: | Okay, so whatever modules you were using before, load 'em |
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| [23:42:36] | Dagmar: | I dunno if you were using md or lvm or what so I won't be any help witht hat |
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| [23:43:11] | J-e-f-f-A|wintel: | Dagmar: yeah, well, that's the problem, I don't know what the heck they were... It worked 'right out of the box' with FC6... ugh... I feel like a complete N00B again!!!!!!! |
| [23:43:35] | J-e-f-f-A|wintel: | Dagmar: Well, what I *could* do is put them in my new system, and fire up the raid... Then move the files over to my new raid... |
| [23:43:44] | J-e-f-f-A|wintel: | (ie: the disks) |
| [23:43:49] | Dagmar: | hahah |
| [23:43:50] | iamlindoro: | J-e-f-f-A|wintel: See my last-- not sure it what order they are, but I *believe* xor, md_mod and raid456 are the three you would need if you were using md |
| [23:43:58] | iamlindoro: | er in what order |
| [23:44:09] | Dagmar: | OKay, there is a degree to which I'm slightly jealous that you didn't have to deal with manually setting up the RAID array at all |
| [23:44:12] | iamlindoro: | If you were using lvm I've got no idea |
| [23:44:56] | Dagmar: | iamlindoro: I would hope that the moment he loads md and then attempts to mount one the kernel will be bright enough to modprobe the correct supporting modules |
| [23:45:08] | iamlindoro: | True that |
| [23:45:14] | J-e-f-f-A|wintel: | Dagmar: Well, that's not entirely true — I did setup the raid array "manually", if you can count just issuing mdadm commands... |
| [23:45:16] | Dagmar: | I'm thinking it just didn't try to init the array, so it wouldn't have botehred loading the modules, or that support is entirely missing from that kernel |
| [23:45:29] | Dagmar: | Okay, so we know you're using md then |
| [23:47:21] | Dagmar: | What I'd like to know tho is why IBM likes to make hardware that would survive the collapse of the building it's in |
| [23:48:31] | J-e-f-f-A|wintel: | Dagmar: Maybe to improve sales to thirld-world contries? ;-) |
| [23:48:42] | Dagmar: | That was rhetorical, actually. I'm dorking around inside this X41 I jsut got |
| [23:48:56] | Dagmar: | Now I see why it weighs a ton for what it is |
| [23:49:10] | Dagmar: | It's like the old selectics |
| [23:49:14] | Dagmar: | er selectric keyboards |
| [23:49:23] | Dagmar: | Metal, metal, and MORE metal inside. |
| [23:50:21] | Dagmar: | The thing has a 15" LCD display in it, but it weighs more than my 22" display, and it's power supply is external |
| [23:50:48] | keith4__: | i think i'll get that USB one |
| [23:50:58] | keith4__: | i'd like to keep my only serial port for controlling the TV ;-) |
| [23:51:22] | Dagmar: | You would think from looking at http://www.itreviews.co.uk/hardware/h266.htm that it doesn't weigh much |
| [23:51:51] | Dagmar: | At least if someone breaks in and steals this after I make it my firewall, they're not going to run away _quickly_ with it' |
| [23:52:04] | keith4__: | you're going to use a thinkpad for a firewall? |
| [23:52:16] | Dagmar: | Um I *could* but no |
| [23:52:25] | Dagmar: | The X41 is a kiosk-like unit |
| [23:52:31] | J-e-f-f-A|wintel: | iamlindoro: Well, so much for attempting modprobe(s)... No matter which ones I try, it says "FATAL: Module _____ not found." ... |
| [23:52:40] | keith4__: | oh |
| [23:52:48] | Dagmar: | I got it for $75, which is about $25 more than the current firewall I have is worth |
| [23:52:59] | iamlindoro: | ewwww |
| [23:53:07] | Dagmar: | Both the drives in the firewall are over 10 years old. |
| [23:53:11] | iamlindoro: | (to the no modules found bit) |
| [23:53:13] | keith4__: | drives? |
| [23:53:27] | keith4__: | CF, man |
| [23:53:48] | Dagmar: | So, I've pretty much blown out the MTBF on both of them by a factor of two, and they're still going and still passing tests. Heh |
| [23:54:07] | J-e-f-f-A|wintel: | iamlindoro: Yeah, so I guess I'll just try putting the drives in my new system, getting the raid started, then moving over my recordings and database... |
| [23:54:21] | iamlindoro: | J-e-f-f-A|wintel: Forced upgrades for the win! |
| [23:54:27] | Dagmar: | I don't just run an idiot box on my perimeter |
| [23:54:35] | Dagmar: | It needs disk for logging |
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| [23:55:20] | keith4__: | CF, man |
| [23:55:26] | Dagmar: | Transparent squid proxying requires a not insubstantial committment as well |
| [23:55:47] | Dagmar: | They don't make CF disks big enough for what I need at reasonable prices. |
| [23:56:02] | J-e-f-f-A|wintel: | iamlindoro: Yeah, my new system is slightly faster — going from an Athlon 64 x2 4600+ to a 4800+, but from DDR 400 to DDR2 800, and (eventually) a 6-disk raid5 (500GB drives, ~2.5TB), and mirrored OS disk... |
| [23:56:18] | keith4__: | ah, that's true |
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| [23:56:36] | iamlindoro: | J-e-f-f-A|wintel: Never a good feeling to have it rushed, definitely know how that is |
| [23:56:40] | Dagmar: | 4Gb to the squid cache would eat a whole flash drive |
| [23:56:59] | Dagmar: | ...and I wouldn't want to use a thumbdrive for squid cache, but I do intend to be using them for log backups after this |
| [23:57:04] | PatrickDK: | why are people attempting to use squid? |
| [23:57:11] | Dagmar: | ...and keys. No USB on the current firewall |
| [23:57:21] | J-e-f-f-A|wintel: | iamlindoro: On the positive side, this is like the 8th time I've installed Myth from scratch, so I'm getting pretty good at it... :-) |
| [23:57:52] | iamlindoro: | J-e-f-f-A|wintel: Heh, there's something to be said for that-- lord knows how *messy* my first Myth install was, thank god there's no more evidence of it any more |
| [23:57:59] | Dagmar: | PatrickDK: I use it because it gets around some stupid browser behaviours, but most importantly if I need to dork with traffic, I can poke at the config file a bit and do whatever with it |
| [23:58:25] | Dagmar: | ...and a cablemodem is fast, yes, but there's a notably brisker pace things load at when they're coming off a box in the same house as you. |
| [23:58:44] | J-e-f-f-A|wintel: | iamlindoro: hehe... mine too.... Was on my old Athlon XP 1800... ;-) FC2 ... 2 50GB drives... ;-) |
| [23:58:47] | PatrickDK: | heh, I put squid in the, root of all evil software category |
| [23:58:54] | keith4__: | Dagmar: any reason to get the 2 LED model instead of the 1 LED / 1 plug ? |
| [23:58:55] | Dagmar: | It's a bitch to set up, yeah |
| [23:58:57] | PatrickDK: | I have seen it slow down so many things |
| [23:59:07] | Dagmar: | keith: If you need to have a wider area of line of sight maybe |
| [23:59:22] | Dagmar: | PatrickDK: I also use it to filter out certain networks |
| [23:59:48] | Dagmar: | Like, if someone actually DID manage to infect something in my house, I would be able to see it in the squid logs |
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