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| [00:45:32] | GreyFoxx: | aoeu: it will chop it into seperate files based on when shows start and end;'[]\] |
| [00:48:07] | ** iamlindoro feels like he missed something and trouts his monitor. ** | |
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| [00:49:23] | Hoochster: | anyone know how if and how the myth orphan script works with the Storage directories, I see you can do a --dir=directories, but how do you specify multiple directories? with a space between or a comma? |
| [00:50:28] | Aval0n: | GreyFoxx: is it normal for all my HD channels to be greyed out on program guide when it's recording something? |
| [00:50:32] | Aval0n: | even the channel it's recording on |
| [00:50:49] | iamlindoro: | Hoochster: if you want to run it w/ your storage dirs, you run it without the --dir argument altogether |
| [00:51:05] | iamlindoro: | Hoochster: If you want to run it across all your storage groups, that is |
| [00:51:38] | Hoochster: | prob just need to edit something in the script but when I did that it said ERROR: no directory found or specified |
| [00:51:49] | Hoochster: | and yes I ran it on the server with sql and the master be |
| [00:51:51] | Hoochster: | heh |
| [00:51:59] | iamlindoro: | Hoochster: Are you using it with .21 or greater? |
| [00:52:05] | Hoochster: | 21 yes |
| [00:52:24] | iamlindoro: | Hmm, interesting-- yeah, I don't need to specify when I run it on the whole group |
| [00:52:28] | iamlindoro: | IIRC |
| [00:52:36] | Hoochster: | k thanks for the input will keep looking at it |
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| [01:39:12] | TelnetManta: | can anyone point me towards some instructions for setting an environmental variable with my myth startup script? Here recently for some reason when my system starts the backend throws an error about the HOME var and exits. I can run it after login and it starts fine. |
| [01:39:24] | TelnetManta: | So I think its being set to late. |
| [01:39:26] | Cackette: | Does the music visualizer work? |
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| [01:44:50] | Yahooadam: | in mythweb, when im in mythvideo, i click the "IMDB" button – and /var/log/apache2/error.log says "sh: -M: not found" |
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| [01:45:41] | Cackette: | weird, Yahooadam, my IMDB link works |
| [01:46:29] | Yahooadam: | should i have something set for "web_video_imdb_path" |
| [01:48:45] | Cackette: | no clue |
| [01:49:38] | Yahooadam: | http://ipaddr/mythweb/settings/video |
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| [02:00:26] | TelnetManta: | can anyone help with my env var issue? |
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| [02:18:57] | squish102: | has any1 seen a problem that when i fast forward, it suddently skips to the end |
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| [02:19:09] | squish102: | i think there is bad data about the recording |
| [02:19:24] | squish102: | because it also says the 1 hour recording is 1hour 56 minutes |
| [02:19:48] | squish102: | can i clear some data from somewhere and it will update with the right information? |
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| [03:22:24] | aoeu: | is there no reason a pentium 3 450 can't handle mythtv with 5 hardware encoding capture cards? |
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| [03:22:29] | aoeu: | just as a backend |
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| [03:23:36] | JohnMahowald: | aoeu: Depends on what other nifty stuff it does, like commercial flagging |
| [03:24:27] | aoeu: | if i don't use it? |
| [03:24:37] | zubwolf: | hi there, i'd like to use mythv with iptv, my provider streams upd/multicast streams, does this work at the moment with mythtv? |
| [03:24:46] | aoeu: | i mean each card only uses 128KB/sec io when recording at 1mbit |
| [03:25:11] | aoeu: | and the ide controller can handle 14MB/sec write |
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| [03:47:10] | SLUG_: | guys which is the best os for a mythtv |
| [03:47:44] | Khonshu: | there's alot of opinions there... I use Ubuntu |
| [03:48:00] | Khonshu: | use what you know, would be my only recomendation |
| [03:48:09] | Khonshu: | if you know SuSE, use it |
| [03:48:10] | SLUG_: | I like Suse but my card can not installed |
| [03:48:30] | Khonshu: | yea, I find SuSE problematic |
| [03:48:35] | mikeones: | and if you want to run svn, use an up-to-date distro |
| [03:48:40] | Khonshu: | I like Debian and derivitives |
| [03:49:53] | SLUG_: | i was told that redhat (fedora) |
| [03:50:18] | SLUG_: | how do i know if that distro supports my card |
| [03:50:43] | Khonshu: | each distro tends to have a hardware support database, Ubuntu does, many do. |
| [03:51:12] | Khonshu: | but if it's supported by Linux proper, it tends to be supported in any distro current. |
| [03:51:31] | SLUG_: | ohh |
| [03:51:32] | SLUG_: | ok |
| [03:52:11] | SLUG_: | i might try fedora |
| [03:52:48] | Khonshu: | I've heard good things about Fedora, in alot of ways, MythTV on Fedora has seemingly alot of support too. |
| [03:52:59] | Khonshu: | I left the Redhat camp along time ago |
| [03:53:11] | Khonshu: | I think my last Redhad installed distro was 7.2 or 7 something... |
| [03:53:36] | Khonshu: | I would say Fedora would be ok. Do you have familiarity with it already? |
| [03:53:45] | Khonshu: | or have a reason for it over another distro. |
| [03:53:48] | zubwolf: | hi there, i'd like to use mythv with iptv, my provider streams upd/multicast streams, does this work at the moment with mythtv? |
| [03:53:58] | Khonshu: | I must say, Ubuntu is uber easy. |
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| [04:08:39] | SLUG_: | No i use Suse , but i am newbe to linux.. |
| [04:12:33] | SlicerDicer: | xris: are you familar with Intel CPU's? |
| [04:15:11] | adante: | GreyFoxx: hey, did you end up getting those videos up? |
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| [04:47:54] | xris: | SlicerDicer: intel cpu's what? |
| [04:48:18] | ** xris points out that "'s" is possessive, not plural ** | |
| [04:48:38] | xris: | anyway, some, definitely less than kormoc |
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| [04:55:36] | SlicerDicer: | xris: just going to ask if you think the conroe celery is decent for mythbox |
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| [05:04:52] | hads: | Those questions don't have a straight answer. |
| [05:06:23] | SlicerDicer: | bbl got to yank the psu outa this box |
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| [06:10:43] | ffish: | so now I'm just trying to get SD working again on my mythbox after a detour through firewiretown ... my PVR500 (which used to work) just gives blocky/static-y video, but ok sound |
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| [06:41:59] | justinh: | is it Friday yet? ;) |
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| [06:52:45] | justinh: | ebay dickheads asking if collection is possible. you'd think that if it was possible I'd have said so on the auction. tardicles |
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| [08:51:58] | MilkBoy: | crap.. after upgrading to 0.21, mythtv does everything it should except creating the recording files |
| [08:57:59] | justinh: | everything it should do except work. I love that |
| [08:58:25] | Tanthrix: | Hey, you should appreciate the optimism! That's better than "Myth is a piece of shit and isn't doing anything!" |
| [08:58:32] | justinh: | stop mythbackend, go into mythtv-setup & verify everything looks sane |
| [08:58:36] | MilkBoy: | =D |
| [08:58:51] | MilkBoy: | ya.. jsut did, and now the whole backend froze |
| [08:59:02] | MilkBoy: | oh well.. |
| [08:59:49] | MilkBoy: | guess I'll have to get over there some time and reset the box |
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| [09:15:37] | justinh: | oyay another software guy is leaving |
| [09:15:46] | justinh: | and then there were 7 |
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| [09:42:10] | directhex|bsp: | justinh, as long as you get 1/7 of his pay as a pay rise |
| [09:45:55] | justinh: | hahahahahaha. ahahahahahaha. ahahahahahahahahaha you're funny directhex|bsp |
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| [09:56:55] | jduggan: | lol |
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| [10:25:58] | Hoxzer: | debian multimedia works logically: version of mythtv in testing: 0.20.2 version of mythtv in stable: 0.21 |
| [10:27:40] | justinh: | stables are for horses |
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| [10:46:40] | justinh: | rofl... "The list is kept just to get the juices flowing on the types of plugins that have been done in the past". get the juices flowing baby |
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| [11:10:01] | DGnome: | Heh, trunk transport editor works kindof crappy with DVB-C :) |
| [11:10:14] | DGnome: | It will not allow me to enter the correct symbolrate |
| [11:10:44] | DGnome: | I enter 6875000 and it substitutes the value with 3333000 |
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| [11:15:47] | DGnome: | After modifying the symbolrate in the DB, the scanner seems to find something but nothing goes in to the database :D |
| [11:16:20] | DGnome: | This is propably why someone said to not use trunk atm. :) |
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| [13:06:10] | mzb_d800: | hi all |
| [13:06:12] | mzb_d800: | I'm trying to diagnose "Unexpected response to MYTH_PROTO_VERSION" errors |
| [13:06:42] | mzb_d800: | so I've checked version numbers (as a start) and been confused by: |
| [13:06:52] | mzb_d800: | MythTV Version : Unknown |
| [13:07:00] | mzb_d800: | which sounds a bit odd |
| [13:07:20] | mzb_d800: | apart from a complete rebuild, how can I diagnose this? |
| [13:08:00] | mzb_d800: | only one machine (so far) gives the Unknown error |
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| [13:09:12] | directhex|bsp: | is that machine a svn build? |
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| [13:09:39] | mzb_d800: | they all are (from an rsynced svn dir) |
| [13:10:06] | mzb_d800: | mythtv-0.21-fixes |
| [13:10:17] | mzb_d800: | Library API : 0.21.20080304–1 |
| [13:10:38] | mzb_d800: | other machine(s) report: MythTV Version : 16495 |
| [13:12:19] | mzb_d800: | google tends to suggest an svn update might be in order |
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| [13:14:02] | mzb_d800: | (rsync is from fresh svn co ... so "virgin" + identical from each machine's perspective) |
| [13:14:19] | mzb_d800: | I can see I'm going to have to automate this sometime ;) |
| [13:15:47] | mzb_d800: | Unfortuantely, WAF is going to go <0 before I can get this fixed ... oh well ... has to be a balance, I guess ;) |
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| [13:29:34] | wayne_: | hi all, can i have some help please, i cant receive itv1,channel 4 transmitted from the winterhill transmitter in the uk, i know my antenna/ card are fine they work well in MS, can anybody give me some ideas, hell ive even just rung itv and ofcom |
| [13:36:09] | directhex|bsp: | wayne_, which channels exactly are you missing? |
| [13:36:30] | directhex|bsp: | ch4, ch4+1, e4, more4, itv1, itv2, itv3, and itv4? |
| [13:39:46] | wayne_: | yep those exactly |
| [13:41:42] | wayne_: | direxthex|bsp: can you help? |
| [13:42:59] | keith4: | seems suspicious that he was able to "guess" those |
| [13:43:01] | directhex|bsp: | wayne_, that's multiplex 2. it implies you have an issue getting that multiplex, but not the other 5 |
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| [13:43:47] | keith4: | is there documentation anywhere about how to transition an existing system to using storage groups? |
| [13:45:21] | GreyFoxx: | keith4: There is nothing you need to do really |
| [13:45:43] | GreyFoxx: | when you upgrade the initial storage group is setup |
| [13:45:59] | wayne_: | directhex|bsp: exactly i get all the channels but mux 2 |
| [13:46:04] | GreyFoxx: | you just need to add more in mythtv-setup if you are adding or locations |
| [13:46:19] | keith4: | ok, but I want to somehow ditch my LVM, go back to separate disks, without losing data (or metadata) |
| [13:46:50] | GreyFoxx: | keith4: Do you have space somewhere else you can move the files while you disassemble the lvm ? |
| [13:47:33] | keith4: | not, but there is enough free space on the LVM that I could shrink the filesystem, remove one drive, copy some data to it... rinse and repeat |
| [13:47:36] | keith4: | i guess |
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| [13:49:41] | wayne_: | directhex|bsp: can you help? |
| [13:50:04] | directhex|bsp: | wayne_, it works with windows, you say? |
| [13:50:42] | wayne_: | directhex|bsp: yep, so in my head that rules out bad card, dodgy cabling, etc |
| [13:51:02] | directhex|bsp: | wayne_, try a different card if you can anyway (e.g. borrow from a friend). might be a driver issue |
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| [13:51:14] | keith4: | GreyFoxx: it won't care which storage groups the files are in? |
| [13:52:17] | wayne_: | dont know anybody else with a dvb-t card, regarding drivers i am using the drivers from comprousa.com (yes it's a compro dvb-t200), is there any OSS available? |
| [13:52:45] | directhex|bsp: | closed-source dvb-t drivers for linux? O_o |
| [13:52:55] | keith4: | yuck |
| [13:54:02] | directhex|bsp: | saa7134. supported in all kernels since 2.6.17 |
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| [13:54:37] | dustybin: | drivers are essentially drivers for microchips |
| [13:54:40] | neztiti: | hi guys |
| [13:54:52] | wayne_: | i'll remove and try the saa7134 thanks |
| [13:55:14] | neztiti: | any one have remote.conf for twinhan remote? |
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| [13:57:47] | justinh: | what? using linux drivers from compro themselves? |
| [13:57:54] | justinh: | jesus no wonder it's not worky |
| [13:58:58] | justinh: | I could understand you using the firmware extracted from original compro drivers... |
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| [13:59:11] | justinh: | (if that's even necessary) |
| [14:00:49] | justinh: | interesting: http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/DVB-T_PCI_Cards |
| [14:01:01] | justinh: | "warning: problems with poor reception" |
| [14:01:51] | justinh: | "Power on via irda".. rofl |
| [14:03:00] | directhex|bsp: | justinh, that's a saa7134 problem in general. i had lots of BE crashes on old versions in poor reception on a technotrend. |
| [14:04:28] | justinh: | good ole philips shite |
| [14:04:57] | directhex|bsp: | at least it worked before cx88 did |
| [14:05:23] | justinh: | so it was first off the blocks – yay for that |
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| [14:07:27] | hti_pro: | any one using mythtv on ubuntu?? |
| [14:07:36] | justinh: | as if! |
| [14:07:38] | hti_pro: | with pata ide drives?? |
| [14:08:05] | justinh: | yup |
| [14:08:18] | justinh: | or 'parter' as the asshole managers here say |
| [14:08:40] | hti_pro: | any issues with dma??? specifically https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lin . . . /+bug/110636 |
| [14:08:48] | justinh: | nope |
| [14:09:08] | justinh: | but then I run a 2.6.15 kernel that came with dapper :P |
| [14:09:48] | hti_pro: | so dapper does not have the problem?? |
| [14:10:38] | hti_pro: | I can't figure out if this is something release specific, kernel specific, or driver specific. All i know is 30MB/sec throughput is quite unacceptable on a mythtv backend |
| [14:11:00] | justinh: | you kidding? |
| [14:11:04] | hti_pro: | no |
| [14:11:11] | hti_pro: | i wish i was |
| [14:11:14] | justinh: | 30MB sec is more than ample still |
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| [14:11:52] | hti_pro: | It is a master backend in combination with a slave backend. When I run frontend at the same time, you can forget about capturing |
| [14:12:12] | hti_pro: | The slaves stream and delete their recordings to the master, which is also the frontend |
| [14:12:19] | PatrickDK: | hmm, for a backend to record hdtv, and play it back, requires about 4MB/s |
| [14:12:27] | hti_pro: | I can't burn a cd or dvd without ending up with a coaster |
| [14:12:50] | justinh: | in the meantime use a kernel that doesn't suck ;) |
| [14:12:50] | hti_pro: | the hard drive usage stays pegged, and the system becomes unresponsive |
| [14:13:08] | justinh: | kernel/chipset/motherboard |
| [14:13:19] | hti_pro: | I have tried all kernels available to the gutsy release and all have the same prob |
| [14:14:08] | hti_pro: | not 100% sure on mobo, but Intel Corporation 82801BA IDE U100 Controller with 2.6.22-14-generic(currently) |
| [14:14:35] | hti_pro: | I heard that anything pre 2.6.19 is good, but I cannot get this through apt |
| [14:14:51] | hti_pro: | everytime I try to build a kernel, it doesnt work |
| [14:15:47] | hti_pro: | DMA is enabled but it is only udma2 and I would really like for udma4(max supported by drive) I have to wait like 30 seconds just to load the frontend |
| [14:16:11] | hti_pro: | If i run a calculator at the same time(just an example) add about another 15 secs |
| [14:16:26] | hti_pro: | *********sorry for flooding**************8 |
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| [14:19:04] | hti_pro: | I thought about switching to a 2.4 kernel, but I'm afraid things will break |
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| [14:20:33] | PatrickDK: | hti_pro, are you sure your motherboard is able to do udma4? and you have the correct cable to use it? |
| [14:21:19] | keith4: | hdparm can futz with dma settings |
| [14:21:33] | keith4: | hti_pro: sounds like it's time to split the back and frontend, though |
| [14:22:07] | hti_pro: | it is 80pin, I am not 100% sure about mobo, but it is a P4 1.7GHZ, I have not run into a P4 that couldn't |
| [14:22:23] | hti_pro: | hdparm -d gives ioctl error |
| [14:23:22] | hti_pro: | I had this setup on a celeron 1GHZ with less ram and much older hardware before migrating to this board/case and no probs whatsoever |
| [14:24:23] | hti_pro: | PatrickDK: is there any way to check board capabilities from within a running system |
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| [14:25:06] | directhex|bsp: | 2.4 kernels are history, and absolutely not supported by almost every modern distro |
| [14:25:07] | tcpsyn: | afternoon |
| [14:25:21] | tcpsyn: | directhex, but they're running in every production datacenter. |
| [14:25:33] | directhex|bsp: | tcpsyn, blame RHEL3 |
| [14:25:47] | directhex|bsp: | which is only 2.4 by name |
| [14:25:57] | directhex|bsp: | it's a 2.5 kernel really, but don't tell the Enterprise users that |
| [14:26:05] | tcpsyn: | I shalln't |
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| [14:26:18] | PatrickDK: | hti_pro, not that I know of, I have no issues running udma5 though, on every 2.6.x kernel I have tried |
| [14:26:25] | PatrickDK: | sounds like maybe your harddrive is broken? |
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| [14:27:04] | tcpsyn: | or your using a 40 pin IDE cable. |
| [14:27:07] | hti_pro: | PatrickDK: not in the least, I pulled it directly from the previous system, running udma4, and was reduced to udma2 upon insertion to new system |
| [14:27:25] | tcpsyn: | hti_pro, using a 40 or 80 pin ribbon? |
| [14:27:26] | hti_pro: | tcpsyn: it is most definitely an 80 pin ribbon |
| [14:27:32] | tcpsyn: | aye. |
| [14:27:51] | justinh: | maybe the cable/hdd is damaged :) |
| [14:28:04] | tcpsyn: | smart should be able to tell you |
| [14:28:10] | hti_pro: | smart???? |
| [14:28:56] | tcpsyn: | smartctl -i /dev/hda |
| [14:29:18] | tcpsyn: | http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/6983 |
| [14:29:31] | hti_pro: | damn, not installed, and I'm in the middle of upgrading to hardy beta. I'll give it a try when upgrade is complete |
| [14:30:16] | hti_pro: | says 8 minutes to go. |
| [14:32:15] | hti_pro: | know of anything that will pinpoint bottlenecks of this nature |
| [14:33:40] | PatrickDK: | upgrading to hardy is a big mistake |
| [14:33:51] | PatrickDK: | why take an ok system, and destroy it with beta stuff? |
| [14:33:59] | PatrickDK: | and expect it to work? |
| [14:33:59] | iamlindoro: | Exactly |
| [14:34:07] | directhex|bsp: | i run the hardy beta! |
| [14:34:10] | directhex|bsp: | there are some regressions |
| [14:34:15] | directhex|bsp: | some nice bits, but some regressions |
| [14:34:21] | PatrickDK: | directhex, but you aren't crying for help :) |
| [14:34:45] | hti_pro: | I am being very hopeful that the libata dma bug is fixed in this release, and with release date 2 weeks off, I figured it was worth a shot |
| [14:35:36] | hti_pro: | also I am on the verge of choosing another distro to base my mythtv network on |
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| [14:36:34] | hti_pro: | I haven't had this issue in pure debian, and no bugs seem to exist in other distros in this regard. All I can find is with kernel >2.6.19 + ubuntu + pata ide drives |
| [14:37:28] | PatrickDK: | dunno, I have 3 box's running ubuntu with 2.6.22–14 kernel, no issues |
| [14:37:36] | hti_pro: | anyone have a recommendation on distros, with minimal resource usage, and good myth perfomance. |
| [14:37:45] | directhex|bsp: | PatrickDK, yeah, but pata? retrotastic! |
| [14:37:58] | PatrickDK: | directhex, two of them are pata |
| [14:38:13] | tcpsyn: | I don't have a problem with the hardy beta |
| [14:38:20] | tcpsyn: | I wouldn't put it on my backend though |
| [14:38:47] | directhex|bsp: | nor i. that said, i would like some of the bugfixes in the hardy myth packages but not the packages in gutsy |
| [14:39:27] | PatrickDK: | I just check my motherboard |
| [14:39:34] | hti_pro: | if anyone is wondering this is the bug i believe i am dealing with is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lin . . . /+bug/110636 |
| [14:39:36] | PatrickDK: | I am running the same ide controller as hti_pro |
| [14:39:47] | PatrickDK: | and my drives in ubuntu are running udma5 |
| [14:40:21] | tcpsyn: | hate to ask.. but did you hdparm it? |
| [14:40:57] | hti_pro: | then wtf. I know my drive is good, and the ribbon came from the previous system. I know the drive is only capable of udma4. But I am stuck at udma2 and any hdparm -x commands give error. |
| [14:41:45] | PatrickDK: | tcpsyn, did I? no |
| [14:41:48] | hti_pro: | I will run smartctl as soon as upgrade is complete, just to make sure |
| [14:42:12] | tcpsyn: | hdparm as well |
| [14:42:20] | PatrickDK: | hdparm -i /dev/sda |
| [14:42:21] | PatrickDK: | UDMA modes: udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 udma4 *udma5 |
| [14:42:24] | hti_pro: | PatrickDK: are you running the standard 2.6.22–14 kernel |
| [14:42:26] | tcpsyn: | aye. |
| [14:42:39] | PatrickDK: | hti_pro, the default one that got installed after upgrade to 7.10 |
| [14:43:02] | PatrickDK: | 2.6.22-14-generic |
| [14:43:22] | hti_pro: | same here |
| [14:43:32] | hti_pro: | what kind of drives are you using |
| [14:43:58] | PatrickDK: | and that *bug* you reported says right in it, it is a problem with feisty, not gusty, or anything else |
| [14:44:35] | PatrickDK: | both of mine are wd currently, on those box's |
| [14:45:18] | hti_pro: | but it has not been fixed yet .... Either way, this wont get fixed in feisty. Please test gutsy and report findings here if it is still a problem (also add a linux-source-2.6.22 target, but do not change the 2.6.20 one). ... that is direct quote. I don't remember where I found it but it is still an active bug and wont be fixed in gutsy either |
| [14:45:26] | hti_pro: | I have wd's also |
| [14:46:03] | hti_pro: | ok, I got different error this time when trying to hdparm -X udma4 |
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| [14:46:06] | PatrickDK: | well, if I have same drive as you, and same ide controller as you, and same kernel as you |
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| [14:46:13] | PatrickDK: | it's not the systems problem |
| [14:46:16] | PatrickDK: | but yours is broken |
| [14:46:24] | hti_pro: | thats what im thinking |
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| [14:46:29] | PatrickDK: | and I think I said that before you started saying anything |
| [14:47:26] | hti_pro: | just finished with upgrade, but pre-reboot hdparm is giving different output, so maybe progress??? I will also run smartctl to rule out hardware probs. |
| [14:48:23] | hti_pro: | I am hoping to god that it is not a bad drive, I am already working on no budget... |
| [14:49:27] | wayne_: | can sombody give me the rpm command to remove a rpm named "linux.rpm" |
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| [14:50:54] | alexvd_: | iamlindoro: I have a vacation home that I want to be able to acess my mythtv recordings from. The connection is fios to fios so 5gigs up. Would it be possible to setup a slave and rsync the recordings from the master at my primary home? |
| [14:58:01] | hti_pro: | tcpsyn: if i run smartctl -i /dev/sda will it tell me if there is an error, or just give me info about the drive |
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| [15:08:30] | hti_pro: | i lost everyone huh??????? |
| [15:10:01] | TelnetManta: | any of you guys good with Select statements? Have a question.. |
| [15:12:02] | iamlindoro__: | alexvd_, It's 5 Megabit upstream, not 5 gigabit-- even with 5 Mb/s upstream, it would be painfully slow to rsync your recordings, although still *technically* possible |
| [15:12:40] | alexvd_: | yes sorry typo, dealing with datacenter architectures right now. |
| [15:12:55] | alexvd_: | painfully as in hours or days? |
| [15:13:35] | iamlindoro__: | depends on how much you record, I suppose, and how much you keep in recordings-- I would say minimally hours, potentially days to give the safe answer |
| [15:13:53] | wayne_: | hmm, thats strange i have removed the closed source driver and now use saa7134 every time i scan i get a different number of channels, anybody got any ideas on this one? |
| [15:14:40] | directhex|bsp: | wayne_, reception issues? how many channels, roughly? |
| [15:15:14] | wayne_: | 18 then 34 then 40 !!! |
| [15:15:52] | wayne_: | i think my card i fucked or it's me!!! |
| [15:16:15] | iamlindoro__: | Almost always the latter |
| [15:16:24] | wayne_: | proberbly |
| [15:16:27] | wayne_: | sorry typo |
| [15:16:44] | wayne_: | 76 channels that time |
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| [15:17:23] | iamlindoro__: | wayne_, Sort of sounds like you didn't set it to delete existing transports when you scan, so it's just adding the channels over and over |
| [15:17:33] | iamlindoro__: | assuming you're scanning with myth, that is |
| [15:18:10] | wayne_: | i am using dvb-scan at the moment, just to check drivers, before i start mythtv |
| [15:20:43] | wayne_: | ok i figured it's a crap card can anyone recomend a good dvb-t card( pci / usb) |
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| [15:28:35] | wayne_: | can anybody recomend a usb dvb-t |
| [15:28:45] | directhex|bsp: | wayne_, 76 is the "right number", or thereabouts anyway |
| [15:29:08] | directhex|bsp: | wayne_, the wintv nova-t is a popular choice |
| [15:29:59] | wayne_: | can somebody gimme a price pound sterling |
| [15:30:02] | wayne_: | or euro |
| [15:30:06] | directhex|bsp: | about 20 quid |
| [15:30:48] | iamlindoro__: | Quid always sound like they should have tentacles and suckers to me |
| [15:33:10] | directhex|bsp: | http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=9833 |
| [15:33:15] | directhex|bsp: | iamlindoro__, quid pro quo? |
| [15:33:27] | iamlindoro__: | cogito ergo sum? |
| [15:33:34] | iamlindoro__: | veni vidi vici? |
| [15:35:20] | tcpsyn: | hti_pro, it'll give you information, there are other smart tools that will give a deeper level of info |
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| [15:36:48] | hti_pro: | I ran smartctl -a and it reported no errors, removed case and checked cable, it is 80-pin, also I cannot even turn dma off for the cdrom on the secondary channel also with 80 pin ribbon |
| [15:37:09] | wayne_: | directhex|bsp: cheers |
| [15:37:22] | hti_pro: | im about to give up on it though, I'll just deal with the poor performance i guess |
| [15:37:39] | wayne_: | whats mythtv like with multiple capture cards do they have to be all the same (brand,manufacture) |
| [15:37:48] | directhex|bsp: | wayne_, fine and no |
| [15:38:05] | hti_pro: | i have another issue that you guys might be able to help with though |
| [15:38:06] | directhex|bsp: | wayne_, within any mythtv network you can have any mix of cards in as many machines as you like |
| [15:38:18] | wayne_: | cool!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| [15:38:32] | iamlindoro__: | it's not EDO RAM after all |
| [15:39:14] | directhex|bsp: | iamlindoro__, 32-pin SIMMs for life! |
| [15:39:22] | iamlindoro__: | Hehe |
| [15:39:37] | hti_pro: | i have a hauppauge winttv pvr usb2 capture card. It works just fine with xawtv and tvtime. I set it up in mythtv-setup and find all the correct channels. When I check system status it says tuner is unavailable |
| [15:39:48] | iamlindoro__: | That said, I definitely did some non-standard shit with EDO RAM out of poverty/youth |
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| [15:40:46] | wayne_: | directhex|bsp: how is the card you recomended on drivers |
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| [15:41:10] | directhex|bsp: | wayne_, fine, on any vaguely modern distro. a bit broken on kernels older than 2.6.12 |
| [15:41:33] | wayne_: | cool, i will order one soon |
| [15:41:35] | iamlindoro__: | directhex|bsp, Now you have to determine whether Suse version anything counts ;) |
| [15:41:43] | wayne_: | haha |
| [15:42:01] | iamlindoro__: | (It doesn't) |
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| [15:43:08] | iamlindoro__: | Myth on SuSe is like sex with a wood chipper |
| [15:43:18] | wayne_: | i must be honest, iam thinking of changinf from suse i'm sick of fighting with it to get mp3, etc working with every new version |
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| [15:43:45] | directhex|bsp: | suse is a terrible choice for myth. nobody uses it, so there's no support |
| [15:43:58] | wayne_: | whats everybody here running |
| [15:43:59] | jams: | please once SuSe fixed their QT problem it's not that bad |
| [15:44:36] | hti_pro: | ok, maybe i have bigger probs now. Upgraded to hardy on one backend, now it wont talk to gutsy backend. Protocol version mismatch!!!!!! |
| [15:45:04] | iamlindoro__: | Gosh, and upgrading to Beta software sounded like such a good idea... |
| [15:45:30] | hti_pro: | im lovin the selection of new modules available to hardy. The list is like ten times longer. A lot of useful ones too. |
| [15:46:06] | mzb_d800: | hti_pro: all the instances of mythtv need to talk the same language (version) |
| [15:46:11] | wayne_: | i must admit the most anoying thing about suse is they make it hard to add mp3, etc, ok i understand the issue regarding the legality of the codecs, etc but whats wrong with a dialog box when you start-up / login asking you do you want to add the restricted stuff and then goes and does it !! |
| [15:46:25] | hti_pro: | No it just means that I have to upgrade the other backend as well. Bootup with hardy is much quicker. Mythtv load time is a little longer but menu navigation is actually real time. Before it was like a 5 second wait between keypresses |
| [15:46:49] | hti_pro: | can I get the latest mythtv with gutsy somehow??? |
| [15:46:52] | directhex|bsp: | hti_pro, mythtv does nto deal with proto mismatches, full stop |
| [15:46:54] | wayne_: | directhex|bsp: what you running myth on? |
| [15:47:00] | mzb_d800: | hti_pro: svn |
| [15:47:03] | directhex|bsp: | hti_pro, gutsy-backports repo has 0.21 |
| [15:47:13] | hti_pro: | is there howto on svn |
| [15:47:22] | directhex|bsp: | svn will cause you searing butthurt |
| [15:47:25] | mzb_d800: | google: mythtv svn |
| [15:47:37] | mzb_d800: | google: mythtv svn my butt hurts |
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| [15:47:41] | hti_pro: | maybe svn is more than i wanna bite off right now |
| [15:47:43] | directhex|bsp: | svn will cause you terrifying scorching searing butthurt |
| [15:47:49] | iamlindoro__: | go go gadget devlist |
| [15:47:52] | hti_pro: | I hate butthurt |
| [15:48:01] | directhex|bsp: | then use the gutsy-backports packages |
| [15:48:16] | directhex|bsp: | the versions aren't identical, but the proto is the same |
| [15:48:23] | mzb_d800: | then stick with the same distro (and version) on each machines |
| [15:48:27] | hti_pro: | backports??? will that revert my hardy mythtv to gutsy version |
| [15:48:46] | mzb_d800: | (guaranteed to reduce anal problems) |
| [15:49:14] | directhex|bsp: | hti_pro, erm... no |
| [15:49:22] | iamlindoro__: | hti_pro, Hope you don't think hardy magically has some newer version of Myth than Gutsy-backports does |
| [15:49:34] | mzb_d800: | no, he means a backport from hardy to gutsy for you gutsy machines |
| [15:49:42] | directhex|bsp: | sigh |
| [15:49:43] | hti_pro: | ok |
| [15:49:48] | directhex|bsp: | how long does ticking a box take? |
| [15:49:54] | mzb_d800: | tock |
| [15:49:57] | iamlindoro__: | depends on the ticker |
| [15:50:01] | hti_pro: | sorry not too familiar with backports and the like |
| [15:50:13] | directhex|bsp: | system, administration, software sources. updates tab. |
| [15:50:14] | hti_pro: | do I set that in update-manager???? |
| [15:50:18] | wayne_: | directhex|bsp: what you running myth on? |
| [15:50:32] | directhex|bsp: | wayne_, me? ubuntu on all my machines. |
| [15:50:34] | iamlindoro__: | Why so many question marks all the time? What'd the ? ever do to you? |
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| [15:50:43] | hti_pro: | sorry |
| [15:51:04] | hti_pro: | it signifies that im a bit confused sometimes it happens often |
| [15:51:18] | wayne_: | directhex|bsp: whats ubuntu like never tried it? |
| [15:51:40] | directhex|bsp: | wayne_, brown. well, orange on newer releases |
| [15:51:45] | mzb_d800: | hti_pro: dm, pommies don't like too many question(mark)s at once ;P (jk, before I get shot;) |
| [15:52:05] | directhex|bsp: | mzb_d800, and we like semicolons; they're sources of great power. |
| [15:52:08] | hti_pro: | im not a complete newb, really, sorry if i sound like one |
| [15:52:16] | mzb_d800: | ;) |
| [15:52:16] | wayne_: | hmmmm |
| [15:52:18] | hti_pro: | understood |
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| [15:52:53] | mzb_d800: | wayne_: ubuntu is good for customers :) |
| [15:52:55] | directhex|bsp: | wayne_, you know the thing you asked? "<wayne_> i must admit the most anoying thing about suse is they make it hard to add mp3, etc, ok i understand the issue regarding the legality of the codecs, etc but whats wrong with a dialog box when you start-up / login asking you do you want to add the restricted stuff and then goes and does it !!"? it's an ubuntu package called ubuntu-restricted-extras. that one package pulls in all the qu |
| [15:52:55] | directhex|bsp: | estionable stuff, other than dvd playback |
| [15:53:06] | hti_pro: | will the backports give me access to the myth plugins available in hardy |
| [15:53:08] | directhex|bsp: | and that's easily solved with 1 quick trip to the ubuntu wiki |
| [15:53:14] | directhex|bsp: | hti_pro, yes |
| [15:54:11] | wayne_: | directhex|bsp: how easy is it to dvd support |
| [15:54:18] | mzb_d800: | I'd guess that there's no guarantee that there's going to be a version+proto match, though (at any particular time) |
| [15:54:31] | mzb_d800: | (*GUESS*) |
| [15:54:58] | directhex|bsp: | wayne_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu#h . . . a38a00d70e9f |
| [15:55:01] | mzb_d800: | (assuming backports are always slower to release) |
| [15:55:08] | hti_pro: | my esc key doesnt work now |
| [15:55:13] | hti_pro: | :( |
| [15:55:44] | directhex|bsp: | mzb_d800, hardy will release with 0.21-fixes; gutsy-backports has 0.21 with a couple of cherry picked fixes. same proto, more or less same version |
| [15:56:21] | mzb_d800: | hmmm ... no guarantees in other words ... but *should* work (in theory?) |
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| [15:57:48] | hti_pro: | are gutsy-backports considered stable??? |
| [15:58:00] | hti_pro: | damnit the qustion marks again |
| [15:58:05] | mzb_d800: | compared to what? ;) |
| [15:58:09] | hti_pro: | im tryin, its habit |
| [15:58:12] | directhex|bsp: | define "stable" |
| [15:58:13] | mzb_d800: | (oops ... semicolons too!) |
| [15:58:21] | wayne_: | directhex|bsp: i'm sold got kubuntu-7.10 dvd downloading now, cheers |
| [15:58:43] | directhex|bsp: | "stable" in the linux sense of the word means "does not change", not "does not crash", though you can see how one derives from the other |
| [15:58:44] | hti_pro: | i guess as opposed to beta or unstable |
| [15:58:52] | directhex|bsp: | in that sense, no, backports are NOT "stable", as they change |
| [15:58:54] | mzb_d800: | kubuntu != ubuntu (but ymmv) |
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| [15:59:14] | directhex|bsp: | but they *ARE* tested to ensure they're not gonna horribly fail to work, and ARE bugfixed as needed |
| [15:59:18] | hti_pro: | oh i see, I was ignorant to the definition |
| [15:59:20] | directhex|bsp: | mzb_d800, same everything-except-UI |
| [15:59:35] | mzb_d800: | KDE != gnome |
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| [15:59:41] | directhex|bsp: | kubuntu si ubuntu with kubuntu-desktop instead of ubuntu-desktop as a gui metapackage |
| [16:00:02] | directhex|bsp: | one can convert one into the other with ease, if push comes to shove |
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| [16:00:16] | mzb_d800: | or do both, but that's not the point |
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| [16:00:31] | mzb_d800: | and a complete over-simplification |
| [16:00:54] | mzb_d800: | the two desktop managers have completely different subsystems |
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| [16:01:05] | mzb_d800: | (apart from look and feel) |
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| [16:02:04] | directhex|bsp: | and, to further complicate matters, there are others |
| [16:02:10] | directhex|bsp: | such as xubuntu, which uses xfce4 |
| [16:02:13] | mzb_d800: | absolutely |
| [16:02:29] | directhex|bsp: | and mythbuntu, which comes with myth (which uses lots of kdeish libraries) and xfce4 |
| [16:03:04] | mzb_d800: | xfce4, or at least the [x]ubuntu release, relies on gnome anyway ... so that's not a *real* alternative |
| [16:03:08] | hti_pro: | If I'm runnin a mythfrontend and wanna reduce resource usage in regards to desktop, can I get rid of the window manager all together and start a raw X server running mythfrontend and only mythfrontend |
| [16:03:18] | directhex|bsp: | mzb_d800, relies on gtk, not gnome |
| [16:03:22] | i3ooi3oo: | directhex Ubuntu uses gnome and kubuntu uses KDE |
| [16:03:26] | mzb_d800: | has gnome deps |
| [16:03:28] | directhex|bsp: | hti_pro, yes and no |
| [16:04:00] | hti_pro: | directhex|bsp: explain, please |
| [16:04:01] | directhex|bsp: | hti_pro, you CAN, but it'll break focus in anything that changes focus |
| [16:04:14] | directhex|bsp: | e.g. if you use mythvideo, and use mplayer to play videos, focus breaks |
| [16:04:22] | hti_pro: | I see |
| [16:04:34] | hti_pro: | what is a good very minimal window manager |
| [16:04:51] | mzb_d800: | (ie. 90% gnome with different look and feel ... a bit of a bastardisation of the *true* xfce4 from my perspective) |
| [16:05:39] | mzb_d800: | hti_pro: fvwm, ratpoison ... as many arguments at that end of the spectrum as at the upper end ;) |
| [16:06:20] | hti_pro: | basically i can use any wm right, myth doesnt rely on a specific one? |
| [16:06:55] | mzb_d800: | hti_pro: fwiw, I run one of my FE's w/o a window manager at all _because_it_uses_lirc_*only*_ |
| [16:07:30] | hti_pro: | so if i run w/o wm i just need to restrict any playback to using Internal player right? |
| [16:07:36] | mzb_d800: | (although I have fvwm commented in xinitrc jic it's needed |
| [16:07:48] | mzb_d800: | hti_pro: no |
| [16:08:20] | mzb_d800: | it's about input (control) and focus |
| [16:09:00] | hti_pro: | ok, so if i only use lirc, then all is good and no wm is needed regardless of what app actually does playbac, eg. mplayer |
| [16:09:02] | mzb_d800: | lirc doesn't suffer from that issue as it sends controls directly to apps, regardless of focus |
| [16:09:20] | hti_pro: | ok |
| [16:09:22] | wayne_: | directhex|bsp: was there anypitfalls for you when you installed / configured mythtv? |
| [16:09:29] | hti_pro: | that is perfect |
| [16:09:43] | hti_pro: | exactly what i am looking for, a true set top box |
| [16:09:53] | hti_pro: | there i go flooding again |
| [16:10:14] | mzb_d800: | although there *can* be issues with error boxes within apps like xine (ie: if file is suddenly unavailable during playback, etc) |
| [16:10:28] | mzb_d800: | ie: in *normal* use ... lirc alone is good |
| [16:10:44] | mzb_d800: | (ps: with above issue, running wm doesn't help anyway;)) |
| [16:11:25] | mzb_d800: | but "exit" and "replay" fixes it ... so not a big issue in my book |
| [16:11:51] | hti_pro: | is there an issue with esc key in myth 0.21 or just my config |
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| [16:12:19] | mzb_d800: | don't use a keyboard :)) ... can't tell you |
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| [16:13:12] | mzb_d800: | (machines are mounted under the floor) |
| [16:13:44] | wayne_: | directhex|bsp: any pitfalls installing mythtv on ubuntu |
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| [16:14:58] | hti_pro: | mzb_d800: nice, wish I could mount under my floor. Is it an open space or completely enclosed in the floor |
| [16:16:41] | mzb_d800: | in .au (esp .tas.au) "under floor" means "under floorboards" ... which also means that underneath those there's *some* space and a lot of dirt |
| [16:17:37] | mzb_d800: | for bedroom, it's a GX150 SFF tucked between boards and support |
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| [16:18:08] | mzb_d800: | for lounge it's a custom mount with an ancient case and an overclocked slot1 |
| [16:18:32] | mzb_d800: | .... at least it was until I blew it up testing some bits last week :( |
| [16:18:48] | mzb_d800: | got the au$34 (delivered) replacement today |
| [16:19:05] | mzb_d800: | (a GX150 with full-height CD) |
| [16:19:32] | hti_pro: | do you have any issues with dirt gettin in the case |
| [16:19:35] | mzb_d800: | planning to put it "upstairs" in the "HIFI" shelf this time ;) |
| [16:19:38] | hti_pro: | or is it fanless |
| [16:19:41] | mzb_d800: | issues? |
| [16:19:42] | mzb_d800: | heh |
| [16:19:46] | mzb_d800: | *cough* |
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| [16:20:04] | mzb_d800: | no ... it gets dirty ... that's not an issue ;) |
| [16:20:27] | mzb_d800: | actually ... spider webs are more frequent than dirt |
| [16:20:45] | hti_pro: | i am a home tech. integrator, and i am looking into mythtv as a distributed pvr for my customers. |
| [16:20:58] | mzb_d800: | hmmm |
| [16:21:01] | hti_pro: | just curious on setups |
| [16:22:00] | mzb_d800: | talk to Steve Ellis: http://www.openmedia.co.nz/openmedia/ |
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| [16:22:18] | mzb_d800: | (hopefully I've remembered his name+url correctly) |
| [16:23:16] | mzb_d800: | err.. |
| [16:24:10] | mzb_d800: | yeah, I think I've got that right ... |
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| [16:25:07] | hti_pro: | appreciate it |
| [16:25:11] | mzb_d800: | if you look through the programme for LCA2008 you should even be able to find a video of his talk about the subject |
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| [16:25:47] | hti_pro: | LCA2008? |
| [16:25:57] | mzb_d800: | linuxconf.au |
| [16:26:45] | mzb_d800: | linux.conf.au |
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| [16:27:25] | hti_pro: | alright |
| [16:27:54] | mzb_d800: | http://mirror.linux.org.au/pub/linux.conf.au/ . . . mel8-054.ogg |
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| [16:30:23] | mzb_d800: | have fun with it ... time for me to crash |
| [16:30:26] | mzb_d800: | gnite all |
| [16:30:41] | mzb_d800: | http://linux.conf.au/programme/presentations |
| [16:30:54] | mzb_d800: | (search for Ellis) |
| [16:32:02] | hti_pro: | thanks and have a good one |
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| [16:54:44] | hti_pro: | anyone use the mythzoneminder plugin |
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| [17:06:59] | hti_pro: | hey guys help please, I upgraded to myth 0.21 on one of my backends and my watch tv option disappeared |
| [17:11:11] | hti_pro: | my bad, it migrated to the TV Setup menu, what gives? |
| [17:11:56] | JohnMahowald: | What else did you migrate to 0.21, the frontends? |
| [17:11:56] | iamlindoro__: | What gives is you changed the menu mode from Default to DVR or Classic in Appearance |
| [17:12:22] | tcpsyn: | that's weird |
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| [17:14:23] | hti_pro: | ok, that makes sense |
| [17:14:34] | hti_pro: | i did mess with that, didn't think it would change that much |
| [17:14:50] | hti_pro: | yes frontend migrated to 0.21 |
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| [17:16:06] | iamlindoro__: | Don't change settings if you don't know what they do, this is how things break |
| [17:16:31] | hti_pro: | too right |
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| [17:19:57] | FinnTux: | anyone having problems with mythvideo? my frontend crashes if I install it |
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| [17:20:29] | FinnTux: | crashes when trying to watch livetv or recordings |
| [17:20:39] | FinnTux: | even entering setup takes fe down |
| [17:21:11] | justinh: | hahahaha all the dodgy dbox2 boxes in the UK have been crippled. serves them tea leaves right! |
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| [17:22:14] | hti_pro: | I am having an issue with my slave backend. It is spitting out logs a hundred lines a minute saying that it cannot access database. It is trying to use localhost and the database is on the master backend. I ran mythtv-setup but i cannot find the setting for master backend database. |
| [17:22:37] | justinh: | hti_pro: there's only supposed to be one database |
| [17:22:48] | justinh: | hti_pro: the idea is that you point all boxes at the database |
| [17:22:59] | hti_pro: | right, where do i set the database settings on the slave backend |
| [17:23:02] | justinh: | and then you point slave backends at the master backend IP address |
| [17:23:11] | hti_pro: | mythtv-setup doesnt give the option anymore |
| [17:23:25] | justinh: | ahh it's that autodiscovery stuff |
| [17:23:34] | justinh: | time to do some reading for you then :) |
| [17:23:40] | hti_pro: | how do i turn that crap off |
| [17:23:43] | justinh: | er.. time for you to do some reading I mean :) |
| [17:24:01] | hti_pro: | :( oh, alright |
| [17:24:24] | justinh: | http://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-9.html#ss9.3 will probably help |
| [17:25:06] | hti_pro: | j/k, is this something that changed from 0.20 to 0.21 |
| [17:25:10] | justinh: | hmm that doesn't appear to have changed since the last time I saw it |
| [17:25:27] | hti_pro: | i know autodiscovery was an option in 0.20 but i had options in mythtv-setup to set manually |
| [17:25:31] | justinh: | hti_pro: make the the master backend isn't bound to 127.0.0.1 |
| [17:26:01] | hti_pro: | i can still watch tv and recordings onthe slave backend/fe but its spitting out these errors |
| [17:26:05] | justinh: | on the master backend, both IP addresses should point to that machine's LAN IP address – i.e. master backend IP address & the other IP address |
| [17:26:18] | hti_pro: | i'll check |
| [17:26:31] | justinh: | on the slave backend all you should need to do is tell it where the database lives AFAIK |
| [17:26:45] | justinh: | it finds out where the master backend is from the database IIRC |
| [17:26:53] | tcpsyn: | anyone know of a retail kinda remote console for PC's? |
| [17:26:58] | hti_pro: | i don't have to give it the credentials |
| [17:27:05] | tcpsyn: | like an ilo card that can power off/on a box remotely? |
| [17:27:18] | justinh: | hti_pro: find mysql.txt & rename or delete it |
| [17:27:59] | justinh: | tcpsyn: AFAIK no such things exist in the retail sector – you're limited to 'pro' stuff |
| [17:27:59] | hti_pro: | when you said both ips, you meant master backend ip and local backend ip – on the master right |
| [17:28:05] | justinh: | hti_pro: yes |
| [17:28:23] | hti_pro: | got it it was the mysql.txt |
| [17:28:27] | justinh: | I've only ever set up a slave backend once so my memory is a bit fuzzy :) |
| [17:28:32] | tcpsyn: | justinh, bummer, it'd be cool if you could remotely control like a UPS to power on/off a box |
| [17:28:36] | hti_pro: | it must have been replaced when i upgraded |
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| [17:28:51] | hti_pro: | tcpsyn: get a lan capable ups |
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| [17:28:53] | hti_pro: | and you can |
| [17:28:57] | justinh: | tcpsyn: oh there are things you can do but way more involved than a simple single box |
| [17:29:22] | tcpsyn: | yeah, I want to be able to youknow... watch the post and stuff remotely, like a serial connection. |
| [17:29:44] | tcpsyn: | because my mythbox is down right now, and I have no idea why. |
| [17:29:48] | justinh: | I still haven't got around to buying a UPS |
| [17:29:50] | tcpsyn: | And that really leaves me a lack of things to do at work. |
| [17:30:05] | hti_pro: | well you can get a ip kvm |
| [17:30:06] | justinh: | don't really need one in the UK as badly as other parts of the world – power is pretty reliable |
| [17:30:06] | tcpsyn: | justinh, I got a cheap one on ebay... lasts about 10 minutes, just incase I blow a fuse. |
| [17:30:23] | tcpsyn: | hti_pro, yeah, but that doesn't help if the machine is powered down |
| [17:30:43] | hti_pro: | ip kvm would send screen regardless of machine state |
| [17:30:56] | hti_pro: | and give you control from poweron |
| [17:31:08] | tcpsyn: | That may be the way to go then. |
| [17:31:11] | tcpsyn: | Thanks |
| [17:31:12] | justinh: | there are all sorts of things you can do. I've heard you can get something like an NSLU & jig it up with USB remote control goodies |
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| [17:32:03] | justinh: | in light of how blasted unreliable standalone PVRs available to us in the UK are, I think even a backend falling over once a month is good going ;) |
| [17:32:24] | justinh: | not that mine does :D |
| [17:32:59] | iamlindoro__: | justinh, And of course, the solution to crashy backends is getting monit to start them again, not solving the crashes themselves... |
| [17:34:11] | justinh: | of course :-\ |
| [17:34:39] | hti_pro: | tcpsyn: if you have a real server you can usually get remote management cards for them, but may be little less functionality prebiso |
| [17:34:45] | hti_pro: | ..pre-bios |
| [17:35:59] | justinh: | the way I look at it is... it's only television ffs :) |
| [17:36:45] | justinh: | even my wife acknowledges that when myth acts up – it's yet to screw up so badly we lose all of our recordings – she's heard about that Sky Plus system ;) |
| [17:37:08] | justinh: | basically not much short of a HDD failure will kiss all the recordings goodbye |
| [17:37:59] | justinh: | all this on a backend running on a Via chipset motherboard too. I know there's a feeling that via are the spawn of satan when it comes to chipsets but I've yet to run into trouble |
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| [17:38:37] | justinh: | speaking of the spawn of satan.. wonder how much my epia is up to now |
| [17:38:52] | Ojg: | lo all |
| [17:39:18] | justinh: | lo |
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| [17:41:45] | tcpsyn: | hti_pro, yeah, I'm familiar with the remote card management route... I was just asking if anyone knew of a PC based one. |
| [17:42:27] | hti_pro: | tcpsyn: i understand, prob is if the system crashes, software kvm is not gonna do much good |
| [17:43:10] | keith4: | there are network-attached "power strips" |
| [17:43:16] | keith4: | I have one... it's crappy, but it was cheap |
| [17:43:20] | keith4: | the nice ones are expensive |
| [17:43:43] | tcpsyn: | that sounds like a good idea. |
| [17:44:08] | keith4: | like these: http://www.cyberpowersystems.com/products/net . . . /csw8ru.html http://www.digital-loggers.com/lpc.html http://www.dataprobe.com/products/power/index.html |
| [17:44:31] | keith4: | I got one of these on ebay [ http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS7139308230.html ] it's pretty ghetto, but it works |
| [17:44:46] | tcpsyn: | nice |
| [17:44:50] | tcpsyn: | yeah, that's what I was looking for |
| [17:44:51] | tcpsyn: | thanks |
| [17:45:38] | hti_pro: | tcpsyn: only prob with those is you can't do a graceful reboot, but then again you should only have to in the event of a crash. The price would be similar to a ups though, and ups would give added benefit |
| [17:45:56] | tcpsyn: | right. |
| [17:46:06] | tcpsyn: | Well I have a UPS already |
| [17:46:10] | tcpsyn: | eh. |
| [17:46:14] | tcpsyn: | not sure how that would work though |
| [17:46:16] | justinh: | and if the box is crashing wouldn't it be much better to spend time finding out why? ;) |
| [17:46:35] | tcpsyn: | justinh, it doesn't generally crash. I just noticed today it's down. |
| [17:46:45] | tcpsyn: | And I want to turn the thing back on, or at least see why it's down. |
| [17:46:48] | tcpsyn: | but I can't, obviously |
| [17:46:50] | hti_pro: | now i'm happier than a snake in a rats nest. Upgrading to 0.21 solved a prob with my usb2 pvr card being unavailable for what seems to be no good reason |
| [17:47:23] | tcpsyn: | everything seems like no good reason, until you learn what the reason is, I suppose. |
| [17:47:34] | Dagmar: | Give it a day or two |
| [17:47:48] | hti_pro: | yep a lan power strip would be the best answer, just make sure you set your bios to power on after power failure |
| [17:47:49] | Dagmar: | That bug is in the driver. Changing MythTV versions isn't likely to affect it. |
| [17:48:05] | hti_pro: | there was nothing in the logs |
| [17:48:32] | hti_pro: | as far as the log was concerned i just canceled watching tv as soon as i opened it |
| [17:49:00] | hti_pro: | the driver was fine, xawtv and tvtime worked flawlessly, upgrading to 0.21 did the trick |
| [17:49:10] | Dagmar: | BTW, "power up after reboot" == "kill filesystem during fsck when UPS is exhausted and power comes back on for just a moment" |
| [17:49:10] | keith4: | tcpsyn: the real solution is to find out why it's crashing, as people have suggested |
| [17:49:15] | hti_pro: | definitely not a driver issue |
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| [17:49:32] | keith4: | or get a real server, with a LOM/BMC or IPMI interface |
| [17:49:47] | hti_pro: | Dagmar: it isn't the greatest solution |
| [17:50:08] | hti_pro: | keith4: yeah if you can get that stuff to work in linux |
| [17:50:19] | Dagmar: | Better to use a UPS that can hold off on applying power to the equipment until it's 50% charged again |
| [17:50:32] | keith4: | hti_pro: IBM and Dell IPMI stuff works great |
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| [17:50:39] | hti_pro: | I have a dellpoweredge 6450 and linux support is really crappy unless you are using redhat el, but newer models are much better |
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| [17:50:45] | Dagmar: | I'm not kidding when I say that a powerfail during the mounting-everything-and-fsck'ing-it phase is generally fatal to filesystems |
| [17:50:59] | hti_pro: | please direct me to info on dell ipmi |
| [17:51:03] | hti_pro: | pleeeeeeeaaaaase |
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| [17:51:14] | keith4: | hti_pro: I use ipmitool over the network, the kernel support for local machine ipmi is shaky |
| [17:51:35] | keith4: | hti_pro: ok, let me find the bookmark |
| [17:51:37] | hti_pro: | is that on red hat el, suse or other *nix |
| [17:51:43] | keith4: | debian |
| [17:51:50] | hti_pro: | thank you so much. I have been fighting with that for 6 months |
| [17:51:55] | hti_pro: | that is perfect |
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| [17:52:34] | keith4: | hti_pro: www.dell.com/downloads/global/power/ps4q04-20040204-Murphy.pdf |
| [17:53:06] | hti_pro: | what series is your server |
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| [18:29:03] | hti_pro: | whats a good setup for external drives in a mythtv setup, ie. link type |
| [18:30:24] | natoka: | external drive? |
| [18:30:59] | hti_pro: | would firewire be fast enough |
| [18:32:02] | hti_pro: | I have a server that runs sca scsi drives, they aren't cheap and it only supports 137GB drives. I want more storage and am looking for some type of fairly cheap raid 5 setup. It is a server so there is no room for internal drives except the 4 scsi bays |
| [18:33:14] | natoka: | hti_pro: probably you will be best off with some eSATA and some eSATA to SATA multiplexer then |
| [18:33:43] | natoka: | hti_pro: i mean you will get the most out of it |
| [18:33:57] | natoka: | hti_pro: for the cash you have to invest |
| [18:34:00] | hti_pro: | what does a eSATA controller cost |
| [18:34:11] | Saviq: | like $10 or so |
| [18:34:20] | natoka: | ^^ |
| [18:34:36] | natoka: | but it must be capable of port multiplexing |
| [18:34:51] | Saviq: | ah then it's prolly more than that |
| [18:34:53] | natoka: | so you need something like a sil 3132 as chipset |
| [18:35:47] | hti_pro: | alright sata drives are pretty cheap right now aren't they |
| [18:36:12] | natoka: | in $ i actually don't know how much that will be, but in euro such a controller costs around 20 euro |
| [18:36:13] | keith4: | yes |
| [18:36:26] | natoka: | yeah they are |
| [18:36:27] | keith4: | you can get a seagate 500G sata drive for about $105 |
| [18:36:31] | keith4: | 5 year warranty |
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| [18:36:43] | natoka: | and the port multiplexer should be around 40–50 euros ... |
| [18:38:51] | hti_pro: | does eSATA support hot swap |
| [18:39:01] | hti_pro: | and does linux have necessary tools to manage this |
| [18:39:20] | natoka: | depends on the port multiplexer chipset you choose |
| [18:42:06] | natoka: | e.g. dawicontrol offers the dc-6510 pm – but that's a SATA to SATA multiplexer |
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| [18:43:54] | XLV: | hti_pro, get a common case, a pci-e or pci card esata card that supports multiplexing, that multiplexing addin board, there are ways to start the atx psu of the secondary case where all sata hdds will be either automatically, with a 12v relay, or manually |
| [18:43:55] | natoka: | just look at the chipsets and see if they are supported or not ... |
| [18:44:43] | XLV: | i once had such a setup ( back in the days of at psus ) to run some hdds, cdr, cdrws in a secondary full at case |
| [18:44:50] | natoka: | ^^ you have to be careful about the chipsets on the multiplexing card though |
| [18:45:08] | hti_pro: | ok, I've seen that done before |
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| [18:45:51] | hti_pro: | turning on psu isnt a problem at all, its easily wired to a switch, nothing special is really necessary |
| [18:45:53] | natoka: | should be fairly simple and you should be able to attach up to 5 drives per eSATA port ... |
| [18:46:27] | hti_pro: | I don't know about running the coil of a relay from any power coming out of a computer though. |
| [18:46:38] | hti_pro: | i think thats just askin for trouble |
| [18:47:15] | hti_pro: | will this multiplexer reduce bandwidth to the hdds?? |
| [18:49:11] | hti_pro: | i'm looking to capture video directly to the hds, I just want to make sure this is not gonna create a bottleneck |
| [18:49:11] | XLV: | hti_pro, all hdds in one multiplexer will share the bw of the one sata port its connected to, i guess some additional overhead should exist, to what extend i dont know, but since sata is at 150MB/s or 300MB/s for sata2, and hdds peak at 80–90MB/s at best, and in a video server the goal isnt hdd bandwidth, but capacity, you shouldnt have a problem from that |
| [18:49:37] | hti_pro: | ok |
| [18:51:26] | hti_pro: | do they have 64 bit 66 MhZ pci esata controllers, or is this standard pci speeds these days |
| [18:51:45] | XLV: | pci, pci-x and pci express |
| [18:52:11] | natoka: | pci-x can go up to 133Mhz is alsways 64bit ... |
| [18:52:26] | hti_pro: | I have pci 33 MHZ 32 bit, pci 64bit 33 MHZ and pci 64bit 66 MHZ |
| [18:52:30] | natoka: | though pci-x has got it downsides too |
| [18:52:33] | hti_pro: | i don't have the option of pcix |
| [18:52:40] | natoka: | depends on the mainbaord |
| [18:52:57] | hti_pro: | its a dell poweredge 6450 so its a pretty specialized board |
| [18:53:29] | natoka: | pci 64bit is pcix (it's simply just a different name) |
| [18:53:34] | hti_pro: | I would like to use its max potential which would be the pci 64-bit 66 MHZ |
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| [18:53:52] | hti_pro: | it looks like a standard pci slot and will support 32bit cards as well |
| [18:53:55] | natoka: | you'll have to be careful though |
| [18:54:25] | XLV: | well, pci-x allows for even higher freq (133Mhz or even more ) than pci 64bit 66mhz but its backwards compatible |
| [18:54:31] | natoka: | because not all cards might work in your dell's pcix port (since it's DELL TM) |
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| [18:57:01] | hti_pro: | is it truly pci-x, pci-x have different connectors than standard pci right?? |
| [18:57:36] | natoka: | pci-x is 64 bit therefore the card is longer |
| [18:57:44] | justinh: | hti_pro: all the testing I've done at work on a port multiplier based on a silicon image chipset has produced pretty much the full bandwidth of the sata bus – obviously not to all disks at the same time but speeds in excess of 100MB/sec are certainly possible – and this was with a pci-e controller |
| [18:57:46] | natoka: | i mean the connector is longer |
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| [18:59:21] | justinh: | sadly not many port multiplier aware sata controllers are doing the rounds compared to regular ones – had to buy the controller from a specialist in the end |
| [18:59:22] | sid3windr: | XLV: seagate 7200.11 500G disks peak at 115MB/sec |
| [18:59:26] | hti_pro: | is there somekind of external esata raid controller, so that the single esata port only really sees the traffic of a single logical raid drive, and not all physical volumes of the raid |
| [18:59:31] | sid3windr: | on a simple intel nonraid onbaord controller :) |
| [18:59:53] | justinh: | no real point in raid for tv recordings & media though IMHO |
| [19:00:00] | hti_pro: | maybe this could eliminate the multiplexer |
| [19:00:23] | justinh: | AFAIK port multiplier controllers that do raid are available now |
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| [19:00:39] | hti_pro: | ok |
| [19:00:40] | justinh: | as far as which ones are used in which enclosures I can't say |
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| [19:01:21] | hti_pro: | I am looking to store my 70G+ media collection on the drive as well as the recordings, if I lost all that data due to an hd death, I would be devastated |
| [19:01:48] | natoka: | you can use raid |
| [19:01:52] | justinh: | 70GB – as much as that eh ;) |
| [19:02:01] | hti_pro: | probably more |
| [19:02:07] | natoka: | and normally the multiplexer will allow hotplugging |
| [19:02:20] | justinh: | the price of HDDs these days it'd probably be dirt cheap to just mirror it all |
| [19:02:29] | natoka: | and if it's below 1TB you can by a usb disk to backup to ... |
| [19:02:34] | hti_pro: | ok, I have around 40G of music, and at least 30G of video |
| [19:02:56] | justinh: | natoka: 1TB USB disks are doing the rounds for not much more than internal 1TB disks now |
| [19:02:58] | hti_pro: | I have been told that mirroring actually reduces speeds |
| [19:02:58] | natoka: | and backups TM are still a good idea |
| [19:03:28] | natoka: | justinh: yeah, you're right |
| [19:03:29] | justinh: | it can do, due to additional overheads but in real terms it's not much |
| [19:04:07] | justinh: | in any case even HD media isn't going to be anywhere near SATA bus capacity :P |
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| [19:04:44] | natoka: | hti_pro: depends but normally should be neglectible |
| [19:05:11] | natoka: | hti_pro: and if you're so concerned about speed there are other raid levels besides raid1 |
| [19:05:26] | natoka: | e.g raid1+0 ... |
| [19:06:07] | justinh: | I have a 500GB external firewire disk I back up media I want to keep onto |
| [19:06:07] | hti_pro: | 1+0 requires at least 4 disks though right??? trying to keep cost down at the same time |
| [19:06:07] | natoka: | though you'll need at least 4 disks to do that right ... |
| [19:07:04] | natoka: | and you loose half of it to the mirroring of course :) |
| [19:07:21] | tcpsyn: | it's just tv, I just run single disks |
| [19:07:29] | tcpsyn: | if it dies.. crap.. but not the end of the world |
| [19:07:31] | natoka: | raid5 is therefore much more cost effective |
| [19:07:56] | AndyCap: | raid5 is crap. the people here advocating storage groups have a point. :) |
| [19:08:26] | ** natoka looks suspiciously at tcpsyn (definitely not a couch potatoe) ** | |
| [19:08:45] | justinh: | raid5 is nice if you a spare hdd you can just slap in there right away, and have time to wait for the array to repair itself |
| [19:08:57] | tcpsyn: | nah man, if it dies, that sucks, but you can always torrent the missing shows to recover. |
| [19:09:15] | tcpsyn: | I'd rather save raid for what it's for.. important stuff. |
| [19:09:23] | hti_pro: | if you used torrent in the first place |
| [19:09:38] | hti_pro: | well that gets into whats important and to who |
| [19:09:42] | tcpsyn: | indeed. |
| [19:09:53] | AndyCap: | justinh: theoretcially. :) if it was true people wouldn't be pushing raid6 |
| [19:10:04] | hti_pro: | what is raid6?? |
| [19:10:15] | AndyCap: | hti_pro: moar fail. |
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| [19:11:08] | natoka: | raid6 – 2 parity sums – capacity of N*disksize means N+2 disks |
| [19:11:37] | XLV: | hti_pro, twice the parity info, it can sustain the loss of 2 hdds before array is lost |
| [19:11:45] | natoka: | meaning a max of 2 disks can fail concurrently without creating a loss of data |
| [19:11:59] | hti_pro: | i see |
| [19:12:21] | natoka: | so you again need at least 4 disks to kick off such an array |
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| [19:26:46] | Ojg: | im trying to config my remote and can't get mplayers pause function to work anyone know if there is a bug in the latest version ? |
| [19:29:51] | justinh: | mplayer -input cmdlist ... will list all the lirc command options |
| [19:30:44] | Ojg: | iknow but when i try to use the pause command it doesnt work :S think i found a another way though |
| [19:31:49] | justinh: | the problem is with your .lircrc file in that case |
| [19:32:15] | justinh: | program = mplayer config = pause button = Pause (or whatever) |
| [19:33:08] | Ojg: | begin |
| [19:33:11] | Ojg: | prog = mplayer |
| [19:33:12] | Ojg: | button = pause |
| [19:33:14] | Ojg: | config = pause |
| [19:33:17] | Ojg: | end |
| [19:33:40] | justinh: | is this in .lircrc within your home directory? |
| [19:33:47] | Ojg: | yes |
| [19:33:52] | justinh: | and is the button name actually 'pause' ? |
| [19:33:56] | Ojg: | yes |
| [19:34:04] | justinh: | not Pause |
| [19:34:07] | justinh: | not PAUSE |
| [19:34:07] | Ojg: | pause 0x0077 |
| [19:34:20] | justinh: | dunno then |
| [19:34:22] | iamlindoro__: | Well it's not mplayer-- I run mplayer and update it weekly, pause works fine. |
| [19:35:00] | justinh: | there's only one reason folks still use mplayer for videos. muh muh muh MUH MKV :( |
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| [19:35:07] | Ojg: | hehe |
| [19:35:14] | iamlindoro__: | YARRRRRRRRR |
| [19:35:18] | ajh: | Would anyone here be booting their fe off a usb stick? |
| [19:35:31] | justinh: | ajh: why? when there's netbooting? :D |
| [19:35:49] | ajh: | justin, mostly so if the be dies I don't need to go find a chair to fix it. :) |
| [19:35:57] | justinh: | < 40 secs from powered down to fully on :) |
| [19:36:12] | Ojg: | its quite odd because i get the same problem if i move the pause function to another button that works with something else |
| [19:36:20] | ajh: | hmm, I should consider doing that then once the be machine is stable. |
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| [19:36:54] | justinh: | Ojg: maybe try renaming the pause button in lircd.conf then – remember of course to change mythtv's lircrc file :) |
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| [19:37:05] | ajh: | having a fe on a stick I could just give to guests would be nice though. |
| [19:37:21] | justinh: | ajh: linux isn't all that portable |
| [19:37:39] | justinh: | certainly not when it comes to lirc configs, xorg etc |
| [19:38:34] | Ojg: | aye, hehe bah to lazy to change them i i just symb linked both .lircrc and mythtv |
| [19:38:42] | Ojg: | -i |
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| [19:39:09] | justinh: | me – just don't use mplayer anymore. haven't for years. but then I'm not even a tiny fan of fansubbed anime |
| [19:39:20] | ajh: | almost done my setup, I'd be nearly done but I sent the Diseqc switch back before learning it could also be tone controlled so I have to wait for it to be shipped back :( |
| [19:39:31] | justinh: | or leet 'hd rips' come to think of it :) |
| [19:40:49] | hti_pro: | is there really a reason to use mplayer, doesnt mythtv's internal player handle everything |
| [19:42:04] | Ojg: | nope didnt help .. |
| [19:42:16] | iamlindoro__: | If you don't have enough oomph in your box, mplayer can play some things smoother than internal, and like justinh said, various MKV features that matter to pirates/anime fans |
| [19:42:35] | iamlindoro__: | That said, thsoe MKV features have all recently been added to ffmpeg, so the door will open on that next myth ffmpeg sync |
| [19:42:45] | directhex: | a sync! a sync! |
| [19:43:39] | Ojg: | ^^^ |
| [19:43:58] | iamlindoro__: | It would pay to wait another few months on another sync IMO |
| [19:44:37] | directhex: | svn myth needs weekly ffmpeg syncs |
| [19:44:41] | hti_pro: | MKV? |
| [19:44:44] | directhex: | to help keep things interesting! |
| [19:44:45] | iamlindoro__: | considering the massive amounts of work being done on HD Audio formats as a part of ffmpeg's GSOC right now |
| [19:45:02] | iamlindoro__: | directhex, I think janneg does them weeklyish on his own codebase |
| [19:45:32] | directhex: | i need to pack another box |
| [19:46:25] | hti_pro: | what is MKV> |
| [19:46:32] | hti_pro: | >=? |
| [19:46:40] | GreyFoxx: | hti_pro: Matroska container |
| [19:46:41] | iamlindoro__: | google knows |
| [19:46:46] | directhex: | matroska. a container. |
| [19:46:55] | GreyFoxx: | like wmv/avi. Just container formats containing the actually data streams |
| [19:47:01] | iamlindoro__: | Didn't you say you were a Home Theatre integrator?? |
| [19:47:15] | iamlindoro__: | Must not do a lot with digital formats, then... |
| [19:47:19] | hti_pro: | yeah, |
| [19:47:23] | hti_pro: | not the specifics |
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| [19:48:06] | hti_pro: | and thats Home Technology Integrator. Not specific to home theater. Distributed audio/video, security, lighting automation |
| [19:48:09] | hti_pro: | etc... |
| [19:48:48] | GreyFoxx: | Lighting and drawing the blinds over the windows is on my list for after the dvd changer integration |
| [19:49:31] | hti_pro: | have you seen the windows with the blinds built in, not really for home theater, but cool as hell |
| [19:49:43] | directhex: | yes |
| [19:49:44] | directhex: | they suck |
| [19:49:52] | directhex: | one blind breaks due to sod's law, and you're fucked |
| [19:49:56] | GreyFoxx: | yeah I've seen then. But this window is pretty small so I wont replace it :) |
| [19:50:18] | GreyFoxx: | I'll build something rs-232 controlled to pull the blind if need be heh |
| [19:50:32] | hti_pro: | hey thats job security |
| [19:50:34] | directhex: | rs232? |
| [19:50:36] | directhex: | http! |
| [19:50:59] | hti_pro: | rs-232, is gettin old, i would go with http |
| [19:51:02] | directhex: | control via web interface or SOAP! |
| [19:51:06] | directhex: | or IPMI! |
| [19:51:06] | GreyFoxx: | pfft |
| [19:51:22] | iamlindoro__: | Jesus listen to all this |
| [19:51:34] | iamlindoro__: | give someone some CAT-5 and everything looks like a network port |
| [19:51:40] | GreyFoxx: | rs-232 is the transmision method. I'm not adding IP modules to a bread board and servo |
| [19:51:55] | directhex: | iamlindoro__, it IS all networking! buahahahaha! |
| [19:52:04] | GreyFoxx: | but making a web interface to trigger the thing is trivial :) |
| [19:52:04] | directhex: | GreyFoxx, wuss |
| [19:52:51] | hti_pro: | its pretty simple these days, and IP modules are getting pretty cheap |
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| [19:53:39] | hti_pro: | you really wanna get down and dirty make it DH-485 |
| [19:54:12] | directhex: | intel atom and embedded java. that's the ticket! |
| [19:54:15] | hti_pro: | multidrop, connect all your blinds in one loop, a LITTLE more expensive though |
| [19:54:37] | iamlindoro__: | This is where obesity comes from |
| [19:54:51] | hti_pro: | lmao |
| [19:55:02] | directhex: | iamlindoro__, well, make the exercise bike HTTP-enabled, and make it only trigger the blinds after 2 miles of cycling! |
| [19:55:20] | directhex: | or a wifi-enabled pedometer! |
| [19:55:23] | iamlindoro__: | directhex, 2 minutes??? |
| [19:55:27] | hti_pro: | now when is myth gonna integrate controls |
| [19:55:35] | hti_pro: | for external devices |
| [19:55:45] | directhex: | MythSlacker? |
| [19:55:50] | hti_pro: | there is an X10 module isnt there |
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| [19:57:13] | tcpsyn: | x10 module for what |
| [19:57:45] | iamlindoro__: | For everything! For your penis pump, for blinds, for everything that could require the slightest bit of physical exertion! |
| [19:57:49] | iamlindoro__: | Wheeeeeee! |
| [19:58:10] | tcpsyn: | I x10 all my lights |
| [19:58:18] | tcpsyn: | because I have complete rooms with no lights cut in |
| [19:58:21] | ** iamlindoro__ installs mythconveyorbelt to move the morbidly obese from their beds to in front of the Teeveeeeeeeeee ** | |
| [19:58:47] | ** directhex wants to move to light-over-ethernet, to get rid of messy light fittings ** | |
| [19:59:12] | hti_pro: | er... X10 plugin |
| [20:00:07] | iamlindoro__: | I will make a standing offer to anyone who wants to automate their entire home and have myth do it all for them. I will come to your house and punch you in the face. Hard. |
| [20:00:37] | tcpsyn: | That's not nice |
| [20:00:45] | iamlindoro__: | and yet it's deserved. |
| [20:00:58] | iamlindoro__: | Inquire within. |
| [20:01:09] | tcpsyn: | heh |
| [20:01:13] | keith4: | can MythTV turn on my coffee maker in the morning? |
| [20:01:13] | tcpsyn: | light dimming would be cool |
| [20:01:20] | tcpsyn: | quickly annoying, but a cool novelty |
| [20:01:25] | keith4: | makes about as much sense as checking the weather using Myth |
| [20:01:33] | tcpsyn: | I check the weather using myth |
| [20:01:37] | ** iamlindoro__ uses a window and HIS LEGS for that ** | |
| [20:01:39] | tcpsyn: | and manage my netflix queue |
| [20:01:46] | hti_pro: | with X10 just about anything, eg. switching... is possible |
| [20:01:48] | keith4: | i could never get the netflix crap to work |
| [20:01:54] | tcpsyn: | it works |
| [20:02:34] | hti_pro: | hey some people make great money off of lazy people |
| [20:02:43] | hti_pro: | its a very profitable business |
| [20:02:43] | iamlindoro__: | yourself included |
| [20:02:44] | keith4: | i haven't tried the netflix integration in a good year or so |
| [20:02:45] | tcpsyn: | I rebuilt the db and "forgot" to set up mythflix though because the woman was starting to have a say with what went in the queue. |
| [20:02:50] | hti_pro: | your damned right |
| [20:03:14] | iamlindoro__: | Sounds like the same people who were *cough* "Web designers" in the 90s |
| [20:03:15] | justinh: | arghhh! not brokeback mountain AGAIN! |
| [20:03:30] | hti_pro: | a friend of mine made $150,000 profit off of automating a PENTHOUSE APARTMENT. |
| [20:03:45] | tcpsyn: | Blood Diamond is the best flick I've seen in a while |
| [20:03:47] | justinh: | fools. money. parted. etc |
| [20:03:55] | iamlindoro__: | ^^^^ Yes. |
| [20:03:57] | tcpsyn: | Everything else I've seen in the last 3 months kinda sucked. |
| [20:04:21] | hti_pro: | he did one job that year and had a 10 month vacation |
| [20:05:50] | hti_pro: | if it wasn't such good money, id be a lazy people |
| [20:05:59] | justinh: | oh yeah. I forgot. fools, money, parted. and on the other end.. no. conscience |
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| [20:06:44] | hti_pro: | they must not be too foolish, they gotta come up with the money somehow |
| [20:06:58] | iamlindoro__: | Yup, definitely no rich fools out there. |
| [20:07:09] | justinh: | wouldn't count on that |
| [20:07:13] | justinh: | inheritance |
| [20:07:17] | iamlindoro__: | </facetious> |
| [20:07:28] | hti_pro: | that is not what im sayin, but not completely foolish |
| [20:07:53] | justinh: | www.wesawyoucoming.com |
| [20:08:11] | iamlindoro__: | Reality Television. Lotteries. Lawsuit winners. Etc. Etc. |
| [20:08:26] | hti_pro: | hey their gonna throw their money at someone to do it, why not me. I wanna be the one throwin the money someday |
| [20:08:41] | iamlindoro__: | Hell, spending $150,000+ on lazy fuck home automation is a qualifier for idiocy in and of itself. |
| [20:08:58] | justinh: | I have a theory that the rich don't stay rich by throwing cash around like it's going out of fashion ;) |
| [20:09:20] | directhex: | wasn't there a story of some lottery winners who blew the lot & want a govt bailout? |
| [20:09:30] | hti_pro: | too true, well its been fun, but i gotta go get my unemployment check. :) |
| [20:09:31] | hti_pro: | j/k |
| [20:10:08] | hti_pro: | for real though i got sh$^ to do, so i'll holla at ya guys later |
| [20:10:17] | hti_pro: | no hard feelings among the tension!! |
| [20:10:36] | hti_pro: | i hope |
| [20:11:06] | directhex: | eek, a penis! |
| [20:11:22] | hti_pro: | now im scared |
| [20:11:55] | justinh: | so anyway – home automation installer == nice work if you can get it. always said that |
| [20:12:09] | tcpsyn: | huge money |
| [20:12:30] | justinh: | commission from the likes of crestron et al too ? |
| [20:12:50] | iamlindoro__: | justinh, Same kids who were charging $100/hour for "web design" when I was in college for their Frontpage masterpiece, methinks |
| [20:13:13] | justinh: | shy boys get nowt, I always say |
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| [21:04:25] | rushfan: | Any HDHomeRun users here who know which input is Tuner 0 and which is Tuner1? |
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| [21:21:26] | stalks: | Hi, I am trying to watch a movie which has previously been comm flagged but incorrectly. It seems it doesnt matter if I disable auto skipping in setup -> playback or I choose to disable it from the OSD it is still skipping, any ideas? |
| [21:24:54] | Dagmar: | Delete the commercial flagging cuts |
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| [21:25:51] | Dagmar: | Hit 'e' for the cutlist editor while playing. Change cutlist however you like, press 'e' again. |
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| [21:35:00] | neztiti: | hi guys- anyone here have twinhan card??? |
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| [21:52:33] | FinnTux: | my frontend breaks between 16934 and 16935. if I install mythvideo frontend will crash when entering live-tv |
| [21:52:37] | FinnTux: | or recordings screen |
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| [21:56:24] | EvilGuru: | Does this seem like reasonable quality from a PVR-150: http://www.witherden.org/~freddie/pvr150.jpg Or should I look into fine-tuning |
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| [21:57:23] | directhex: | EvilGuru, why are you using a pvr-150 for terrestrial? |
| [21:57:47] | FinnTux: | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/commits/327805 <- finnish translation updated |
| [21:57:50] | EvilGuru: | directhex: I have that and a Nova-T and sometimes I want to watch more than one thing at once |
| [21:58:04] | EvilGuru: | well, watch one and record another would be a more accurate description |
| [21:58:09] | directhex: | EvilGuru, what res is capture set to? |
| [21:58:25] | EvilGuru: | 720x576 I believe |
| [21:58:55] | EvilGuru: | So hopefully it is not being scaled at all |
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| [22:16:35] | FunkyELF: | hey guys, I get this error when trying to go to mythweb/mythweb.php.... |
| [22:16:59] | xris: | FunkyELF: you shouldn't need to use that URL |
| [22:17:30] | FunkyELF: | xris, if I don't then I get forbidden |
| [22:17:31] | FunkyELF: | Database Setup Error The database environment variables are not correctly set in the webserver conf or .htaccess file. Please read through the comments included in the file and set up the db_* environment variables correctly. Some possible solutions are to make sure that mod_env is enabled in httpd.conf, as well as having followed the instructions in the README and INSTALL files. |
| [22:17:43] | xris: | FunkyELF: and I'd recommend following that advice |
| [22:17:55] | xris: | (then again, I wrote those files, and the error message) |
| [22:18:05] | FunkyELF: | without the mythweb.php I get You don't have permission to access /mythweb/ on this server. |
| [22:18:28] | FunkyELF: | xris, well...I don't know where my distro put those files |
| [22:19:08] | FunkyELF: | xris, or even what they're called. It says "webserver conf"....what is the actual file name, that way maybe I can use slocate and find it |
| [22:19:34] | xris: | FunkyELF: what distro? |
| [22:19:46] | xris: | dpkg and rpm both have functions to list all of the files installed in a package |
| [22:19:57] | FunkyELF: | gentoo |
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| [22:34:50] | xris: | FunkyELF: can't help you much there... |
| [22:35:15] | xris: | if you're running gentoo, you should be good enough with things to install from scratch, though.. mythweb is pretty much "drop in, touch config file, go" |
| [22:35:35] | EvilGuru: | Installing from scratch is easy |
| [22:35:42] | EvilGuru: | I did it in 5–10min on a Debian system |
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| [23:16:57] | stardotst: | who |
| [23:18:39] | mkrufky: | in hebrew, who == he |
| [23:18:41] | mkrufky: | he == she |
| [23:18:51] | mkrufky: | languageisms |
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| [23:27:28] | aschmack: | is there a command to get the current version of mythtv installed |
| [23:27:39] | iamlindoro: | mythbackend --version |
| [23:27:45] | iamlindoro: | shockingly enough |
| [23:28:33] | aschmack: | no need to be a dick about it |
| [23:29:43] | iamlindoro: | oh geez, if you can't handle a little sarcasm, you're in the wrooooong room |
| [23:30:30] | aschmack: | im always serious when it comes to mythtv |
| [23:30:33] | aschmack: | :| |
| [23:30:37] | aschmack: | see serious face |
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| [23:34:53] | stardotst: | I have some channel/epg confusion – as a result of a couple of attempts at getting my grabber working properly – can someone assist me please? |
| [23:35:58] | J-e-f-f-A: | hey iamlindoro ... How's it going... I made a foobar tonight – bought an AMD 64 x2 4800+ AM2 processor at Micro Center to upgrade a 'test' system that I have... (Semperon 3000), but I get home and I got it mixed up with another system — it's actually a S754 Athon XP Mobile 2800+ Oops!, well I've got a pretty quick cpu for my next build... ;-) |
| [23:37:08] | iamlindoro: | J-e-f-f-A: Ah good ol' Microcenter... The Memorial Drive Microcenter was suuuuper close to my old Davis Square apt. |
| [23:37:15] | iamlindoro: | Nice, though |
| [23:37:22] | iamlindoro: | anyway, I'm going running, more later ;) |
| [23:38:12] | aschmack: | one runs mythbuntu and the other runs ubuntu. i've had the mythbuntu server up for a while and recently updated it with the update manager. now on the other machine i just installed mythtv. on the mythbuntu server i have some 2008 version and on the new machine i have a 2007 version even the sources.list's on both machines are the same. i even added the mythbuntu repo to the new machine back they still arent the same vers |
| [23:38:12] | aschmack: | ion. help? |
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| [23:39:30] | stardotst: | {new to irc so dives in recklessly anyway} On my frontend I find that it knows about some upcoming programming and I can schedule it but when in the tv viewer no information available |
| [23:40:06] | neztiti: | mkrufky:booker toov |
| [23:40:41] | olds: | tv viewer? |
| [23:41:16] | mkrufky: | neztiti: ya know... i should know what that measn but i forgot..... . "good evening" ? |
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| [23:42:26] | neztiti: | hhhhhhhhh no adon |
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| [23:43:32] | neztiti: | mkrufky:its goodmoorning |
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| [23:45:14] | mkrufky: | neztiti: ah, i was close :-P |
| [23:45:41] | neztiti: | mkrufky:ok go to the room there |
| [23:46:03] | neztiti: | i invited you to room |
| [23:47:17] | neztiti: | mkrufky: one quistion please |
| [23:47:20] | mkrufky: | huh? |
| [23:47:29] | ** mkrufky confused ** | |
| [23:47:46] | mkrufky: | oh, i think i understand |
| [23:48:07] | mkrufky: | u tried to use irc commands to invite me to a room, but since you are an unregistered user, you're not cool enough to send me a private message |
| [23:48:56] | neztiti: | mkrufky: i cant ask here man :-* |
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| [23:50:29] | neztiti: | mkrufky: ok n/p man |
| [23:51:25] | mkrufky: | ? |
| [23:51:35] | mkrufky: | neztiti: if your not a registered user, you cant pm me |
| [23:51:44] | mkrufky: | ie: if you priv message me, i wont see it |
| [23:51:53] | neztiti: | mkrufky: i mean if u r busy no problem |
| [23:51:59] | ** mkrufky always busy ** | |
| [23:52:29] | mkrufky: | anyway, i am not going to pull teeth ... .if you have a question, ask it. if not, then ok |
| [23:52:36] | neztiti: | where to register u mean? |
| [23:52:41] | mkrufky: | nickserv |
| [23:53:02] | mkrufky: | if you have a question for me ask me now or forever hold your peace — i am leaving the office in a few minutes |
| [23:53:26] | neztiti: | but not allowed for me to ask here about sasc-ng |
| [23:53:33] | neztiti: | yes or not??? |
| [23:53:39] | mkrufky: | just as well, i know nothing about the topic |
| [23:54:03] | mkrufky: | but you're right — i think they dont want people talking about that here |
| [23:54:12] | mkrufky: | and doesnt matter anyway, since i dont use it or know anything about it |
| [23:54:49] | neztiti: | ok happy to meet u man |
| [23:55:08] | mkrufky: | :-) |
| [23:55:10] | mkrufky: | good luck |
| [23:55:18] | neztiti: | 4 u too |
| [23:56:35] | neztiti: | can you help me how to register on the nickserv ??? |
| [23:57:46] | mkrufky: | /msg nickserv help |
| [23:57:49] | mkrufky: | do that ^^ |
| [23:58:06] | ** J-e-f-f-A Humm... My Asus Pundit has an open Mini-PCI slot... <going searching for a myth-friendly mini-pci hardware encoder, if one exists... ;-) > ** | |
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