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| [00:01:08] | directhex: | OBJECTION! |
| [00:01:37] | Frosty-: | changign to 2.6.24.3 didnt fix nova-t 500 problems :( |
| [00:01:43] | Frosty-: | ordering 2x nova-t now |
| [00:03:23] | iamlindoro__: | directhex: ? |
| [00:04:44] | directhex: | this evidence clearly contradicts that statement, your honor! |
| [00:06:13] | NightMonkey: | Hrm, new mythweb is trying to create .png thumbnails, but only creates 0-byte files in {root}/data/cache. Anyone seen/solved this? |
| [00:06:24] | NightMonkey: | (0.21) |
| [00:06:46] | xris: | NightMonkey: do you have full-size thumbnails in your recordings directory? |
| [00:07:04] | NightMonkey: | xris: Let me check. |
| [00:07:32] | NightMonkey: | xris: Looks like it, based on size. Should I zap 'em? |
| [00:08:16] | xris: | if they exist, it's good |
| [00:08:25] | xris: | next thing to check.. mythweb/backend on same host? |
| [00:10:35] | NightMonkey: | Ah, sorry, jumped ahead and zapped recordings .pngs and {mythweb}/data/cache. Now it's regenerating them, but still getting 0-byte files in {mythweb}/data/cache, but ok in recordings. |
| [00:10:44] | NightMonkey: | xris: Yes, running on same host. |
| [00:11:07] | xris: | blow away the zero-byte ones? |
| [00:11:12] | xris: | is selinux turned on? |
| [00:12:14] | NightMonkey: | xris: I did – I zapped .png files from recordings and cache. No selinux here. |
| [00:12:50] | NightMonkey: | xris: Does mythweb use ImageMagick to make the cache files? |
| [00:12:55] | xris: | no |
| [00:12:57] | xris: | the backend |
| [00:13:10] | iamlindoro__: | xris: has the mythfilldatabase option to force download of "x" days been removed? |
| [00:13:13] | xris: | there's an xml query method that has the backend spit back a resized image |
| [00:13:22] | xris: | iamlindoro_: no clue |
| [00:13:40] | NightMonkey: | xris: Hmm. Odd. |
| [00:14:13] | NightMonkey: | xris: Do I need to allow something in myth proper to allow it to spit out resized images? |
| [00:14:31] | xris: | NightMonkey: I'm not intimately familiar with the xml query method, and still need to do work stuff.. the next step is to see if you can access the xml method manually in the browser |
| [00:14:35] | NightMonkey: | xris: Thumbnails within mythfrontend show up fine. |
| [00:14:38] | xris: | to see if it's a mythweb problem or a backend problem |
| [00:14:46] | xris: | yeah, completely different system |
| [00:14:59] | NightMonkey: | xris: OK, I'll try that route. Thanks. |
| [00:16:14] | NightMonkey: | xris: Ah ha! The cache file is only getting filenames with internal Myth recording ID, but I've renamed my files using mythlink. |
| [00:16:30] | NightMonkey: | (cache directory, rather) |
| [00:16:41] | xris: | that shouldn't matter, I don't think |
| [00:16:49] | xris: | have you restarted your backend sinc renaming thigns? |
| [00:17:06] | NightMonkey: | xris: Yep. I just upgraded. |
| [00:17:21] | NightMonkey: | From 0.20.2 to 0.21. |
| [00:17:38] | xris: | odd |
| [00:18:36] | NightMonkey: | xris: Let me try to see if Apache is complaining about missing images in "Recorded programs"... |
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| [00:18:59] | xris: | doubtful, if the files are zero bytes |
| [00:19:01] | monkeyBox: | Help! I just upgraded a bunch of mythtv packages on my ubuntu (mythbuntu) box, and when I rebooted I started having a lot of trouble watching HD (using QAM). I can watch normal SD tv just fine, but w/ HD it's just really, really slow, and I can hear my hard drive working hard. What could be the cause of this? |
| [00:19:07] | NightMonkey: | xris: Nope – you're right. |
| [00:20:35] | sphery: | monkeyBox: Did the upgrade include an upgrade to MythTV 0.21? |
| [00:21:21] | sphery: | monkeyBox: If so, you need to set up your playback profiles appropriately. They're under TV Settings|Playback. |
| [00:22:06] | monkeyBox: | sphery, yeah, it's using 0.21.20080304–1 |
| [00:22:47] | monkeyBox: | sphery, do you know what specific settings I should be looking for? |
| [00:22:50] | sphery: | playback profiles are hardware/system specific, so start there. Check, also, http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ for more on them. |
| [00:24:30] | monkeyBox: | sphery, phew! thanks.. I just set it to "high quality" and it's working great :-) |
| [00:24:36] | monkeyBox: | got scared there for a sec :-p |
| [00:24:54] | xris: | NightMonkey: here is the URL format: http://mythtv:6544/Myth/GetPreviewImage?ChanI . . . mp;Width=100 |
| [00:25:02] | NightMonkey: | xris: I lied. :) It is now making cache files with "renamed" filenames (I have a lot of recordings). I see the "Generating preview" messages in the backend log. |
| [00:25:05] | xris: | you'll need to change the chanid and date format stuff to fit your file |
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| [00:25:29] | sphery: | monkeyBox: the funny thing is that it's probably taking less resources for high quality because your system can't do the OpenGL rendering, so it falls back to something like before. |
| [00:25:33] | NightMonkey: | xris: OK, I'll check that out. |
| [00:26:01] | xris: | NightMonkey: keep in mind that the time is the *real* time the program started (pre-roll/start early), not the start of the show itself |
| [00:26:30] | NightMonkey: | xris: Thanks. |
| [00:26:58] | sphery: | monkeyBox: You probably want Slim, but as long as the end result is the same... |
| [00:31:56] | NightMonkey: | xris: That works, when sent the proper request. |
| [00:32:25] | xris: | NightMonkey: so you get an image? |
| [00:32:38] | xris: | check your php settings to make sure that php has its remote-url settings set properly |
| [00:32:52] | xris: | probably the allow_urlfopen option |
| [00:32:54] | NightMonkey: | xris: Yes. Oh, ho, wait a sec. I think I hosed myself on this. url_fopen.... |
| [00:32:57] | NightMonkey: | Heh |
| [00:33:16] | NightMonkey: | jinx |
| [00:36:44] | NightMonkey: | xris: Yep. I thought that by adding "allow_url_fopen" in .htaccess, that would override the setting in php.ini. I guess not. Now it works. |
| [00:36:59] | xris: | you shouldn't need htaccess for mythweb |
| [00:37:21] | xris: | all of those settings should be defined in the apache config. |
| [00:37:56] | NightMonkey: | xris: I was trying to be sneaky, and changed the mythweb_conf.apache to .htaccess (getting rid of the <directory> tags in the file). |
| [00:38:59] | NightMonkey: | xris: I wanted to have all mythweb files just "fly in formation" inside the DocumentRoot (so I don't have to worry about upgrades needing apache conf changes). That was my mistake. :) |
| [00:39:46] | xris: | there are settings in there that don't work in htaccess |
| [00:40:04] | NightMonkey: | xris: I guess I found that out the hard way. :) |
| [00:40:10] | xris: | esp. not without tweaks to the apache config for allowoverride stuff |
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| [00:42:12] | NightMonkey: | xris: And, lo and behold, now the flash player works. Awesome! |
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| [00:43:27] | NightMonkey: | xris: I love what you've done with mythweb. It just rocks. |
| [00:45:24] | NightMonkey: | xris: Ah, and the "Queue a job" section is great, especially since I've made a custom job to repopulate samba shares (via symlinks). Nice! |
| [00:45:25] | xris: | :) |
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| [01:23:31] | darkwizzard: | anyway to remove the shadows on a nvidia graphic 5200 card |
| [01:25:42] | fryfrog: | brighter lights? |
| [01:26:36] | DustyBin: | darkwizzard: close the curtains |
| [01:26:53] | DustyBin: | darkwizzard: are you using s-video |
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| [01:29:03] | purserj: | quick question re mythweb, is it possible to stick the mythweb.conf stuff into a virtual host entry? |
| [01:31:18] | DustyBin: | purserj: did you read the instructions? |
| [01:31:53] | DustyBin: | /etc/apache2/conf.d/mythweb.conf |
| [01:32:01] | DustyBin: | thats where its meant to go ^^^ |
| [01:32:05] | darkwizzard: | dustybin no vga |
| [01:32:21] | darkwizzard: | it only on white |
| [01:32:33] | darkwizzard: | it looks like out of phaze |
| [01:32:53] | DustyBin: | darkwizzard: is your graphics sending out the same native res as your display |
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| [01:33:15] | darkwizzard: | should |
| [01:33:20] | DustyBin: | should or is? |
| [01:33:27] | DustyBin: | should doesnt compute |
| [01:33:29] | darkwizzard: | how can u tell |
| [01:33:43] | DustyBin: | are you using a nvidia? |
| [01:34:00] | darkwizzard: | yes |
| [01:34:30] | DustyBin: | there is a tool called xrandr, i think that can output what resolution |
| [01:34:41] | DustyBin: | also look in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| [01:34:47] | DustyBin: | what have you got shit set to? |
| [01:34:55] | DustyBin: | also, what desktop / windows manager you using? |
| [01:35:15] | darkwizzard: | fce |
| [01:35:22] | DustyBin: | xfce? |
| [01:35:52] | DustyBin: | look in your settings menu, desktop resolution settings, should tell you there |
| [01:36:59] | darkwizzard: | well this what pops up |
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| [01:37:24] | darkwizzard: | 0 1280 x 1024 ( 339mm x 271mm ) *50 55 |
| [01:37:35] | DustyBin: | ok |
| [01:37:43] | DustyBin: | what is the native resolution of your display? |
| [01:37:47] | darkwizzard: | Current rotation – normal |
| [01:37:47] | darkwizzard: | Current reflection – none |
| [01:37:47] | darkwizzard: | Rotations possible – normal left inverted right |
| [01:37:47] | darkwizzard: | Reflections possible – none |
| [01:38:05] | darkwizzard: | on my monitor |
| [01:38:17] | DustyBin: | are you using mythtv on your monitor? |
| [01:38:22] | darkwizzard: | yes |
| [01:38:22] | directhex: | 17" tft? |
| [01:38:29] | darkwizzard: | no 101 |
| [01:39:04] | directhex: | 101? |
| [01:39:14] | darkwizzard: | 101' |
| [01:39:16] | darkwizzard: | " |
| [01:39:37] | directhex: | 101", as in 2.5 metres? |
| [01:39:44] | darkwizzard: | yes |
| [01:39:53] | directhex: | as in "pretty much the biggest tv on the market, costing six figures"? |
| [01:39:59] | DustyBin: | LOL |
| [01:40:23] | darkwizzard: | yeap |
| [01:40:30] | DustyBin: | directhex: look in your manual, find out what the native res is |
| [01:40:36] | DustyBin: | darkwizzard i mean |
| [01:40:46] | directhex: | not 1280x1024 |
| [01:40:51] | darkwizzard: | 1024x784 |
| [01:41:03] | directhex: | i can't find anyone who makes a 101" tv |
| [01:41:15] | darkwizzard: | benq |
| [01:41:17] | directhex: | sharp make a 108", for $70,000 |
| [01:41:27] | DustyBin: | your first mission is to get your gfx card to output that same res |
| [01:42:04] | DustyBin: | otherwise your 101" is scaling the image down to its native res, what could be causing quality issues |
| [01:42:23] | directhex: | DustyBin, we're flying blind until he stops talking out of his posterior r.e. screen. benq don't make anything larger than 24" |
| [01:42:34] | Frosty-: | DustyBin, upgraded to 2.6.24.3 and its done it twice within 2 hours |
| [01:42:46] | DustyBin: | Frosty-: jeeze |
| [01:42:49] | Frosty-: | ordered 2x nova-t, arrive weds :) |
| [01:43:01] | DustyBin: | Frosty-: im about to try this: http://www.linuxtv.org/pipermail/linux-dvb/20 . . . /024094.html |
| [01:43:26] | Frosty-: | I can't seem to get it to take the option |
| [01:43:39] | DustyBin: | Frosty-: it has to be done in the grub menu.lst |
| [01:43:49] | DustyBin: | /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-8-generic root=LABEL=/ ro quiet splash |
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| [01:43:50] | DustyBin: | usbcore.autosuspend=-1 |
| [01:43:53] | Frosty-: | only if it is compiled in |
| [01:43:59] | DustyBin: | mine is |
| [01:44:08] | DustyBin: | server:~# lsmod |grep usbcore |
| [01:44:09] | DustyBin: | usbcore 125512 10 snd_usb_audio,snd_usb_lib,dvb_usb_dib0700,dvb_usb,pwc,usbhid,ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd |
| [01:44:20] | DustyBin: | so should yours |
| [01:44:23] | Frosty-: | yeah |
| [01:44:25] | Frosty-: | so perform step 3a |
| [01:44:32] | Frosty-: | ie. not 3b |
| [01:44:55] | DustyBin: | oh yes |
| [01:44:56] | Frosty-: | I get this in dmesg when the card dies, "mt2060 I2C write failed" |
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| [01:45:25] | DustyBin: | Frosty-: i also read that the problem could be because EIT is turned on, lots of people find the card a lot more stable with EIT turned off |
| [01:45:59] | penney: | does anyone know how to flat out disable the automatic Consecutive playback feature in mythvideo? |
| [01:46:04] | Frosty-: | yeah directhex recommended EIT off as well |
| [01:46:21] | DustyBin: | Frosty-: ive read it in lots of forums, messages |
| [01:46:36] | DustyBin: | Frosty-: that means one need to setup a UK grabber of some kind |
| [01:46:41] | Frosty-: | although the idea of essay/reviews for descriptions is worth replacing the card |
| [01:46:54] | Frosty-: | RadioTimes ship half the magazine with each entry |
| [01:47:08] | DustyBin: | at least you get movie ratings too |
| [01:47:20] | DustyBin: | and it goes further ahead rather than 8 EIT days |
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| [01:47:29] | Frosty-: | this is true |
| [01:47:44] | DustyBin: | Frosty-: does that mean, you must use EIT to first find your channels, THEN turn it off? |
| [01:47:57] | directhex: | EIT does not find channels |
| [01:48:04] | DustyBin: | oh |
| [01:48:21] | Frosty-: | tbh I don't know, when I first setup I tried radiotimes, then it wanted me to match feed results to channel numbers, after 5 minutes I gave up |
| [01:48:21] | ** iamlindoro__ gives directhex a valium and points at the clock ** | |
| [01:48:36] | directhex: | iamlindoro_, it's not quite bedtime yet. thinkin' about it though |
| [01:48:40] | iamlindoro__: | Heh |
| [01:49:08] | DustyBin: | Frosty-: http://pdr.cx/projects/tv_grab_uk_pdr/howto/ <-- maybe this? |
| [01:49:20] | directhex: | i got superm1 to stick cdev's ps3/mythvideo/upnp patch into the ubuntu packages \o/ |
| [01:49:33] | DustyBin: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Uk_xmltv |
| [01:49:41] | darkwizzard: | dustybin am i looking for native res supported? |
| [01:49:57] | DustyBin: | darkwizzard: there is only 1 native res |
| [01:50:14] | directhex: | darkwizzard, perhaps you could work out what screen you have, first? |
| [01:50:45] | iamlindoro__: | directhex: Am thinking of finishing my work getting myth to use the HD audio formats and making a patch available-- probably won't be in myth trunk until ffmpeg gets the support, though :( |
| [01:50:58] | darkwizzard: | it a dlp projector made by benq |
| [01:51:33] | directhex: | model? |
| [01:51:41] | Frosty-: | DustyBin, thanks bookmarked, I'll try in the morning. Gonna break my jaw is I yawn anymore, nn |
| [01:52:04] | DustyBin: | nn |
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| [01:52:24] | darkwizzard: | pb8220 |
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| [01:53:48] | directhex: | 1024x768 |
| [01:54:19] | directhex: | 4:3, SD |
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| [01:54:57] | darkwizzard: | that will fix it |
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| [01:55:15] | directhex: | check your deinterlacing settings, and ensure you use a decent vga cable |
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| [01:55:20] | xris: | purserj: if you know enough to set up virtual hosts, you should be able to figure out how to make those commands go into a vhost entry.. BUT... you shouldn't have to. it's controlled via a directory, so it'll apply to all hosts, including virtual hosts. |
| [01:55:59] | darkwizzard: | directhex were do i check deinterlacing settings in myth or in x.conf |
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| [01:56:37] | directhex: | darkwizzard, first, make sure it's running at the right res. by the look of the manual, the stupid thing has a native of 1024x768, but a valid timing mode for 1280x1024 |
| [01:56:43] | directhex: | which is obscene and wrong |
| [01:57:15] | darkwizzard: | yeah |
| [01:57:34] | darkwizzard: | so i have it now at 1024x768 |
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| [01:57:50] | darkwizzard: | but screen bounces |
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| [01:58:07] | RyeBrye: | Anyone here running the backend on OS X? |
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| [01:58:15] | directhex: | define "bounces". that definitely sounds like an interlacer issue |
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| [01:58:26] | ** RyeBrye wonders if he could set up a slave backend on his old, unused G4 tower, and have it do commflag & transcode jobs for him ** | |
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| [01:58:35] | darkwizzard: | soon as boot it wigs up and down |
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| [01:58:42] | darkwizzard: | very small amount |
| [01:58:51] | darkwizzard: | nd very fast |
| [01:59:14] | RyeBrye: | like... 60 times per second? |
| [01:59:23] | darkwizzard: | yes |
| [01:59:31] | RyeBrye: | yeah, that's a deinterlacer issue |
| [01:59:41] | directhex: | if it's at boot, that sounds like a timing issue. what refresh rate are you using? |
| [01:59:51] | darkwizzard: | but does it in menu |
| [01:59:53] | RyeBrye: | Oh, it's at boot? |
| [01:59:54] | darkwizzard: | 60hz |
| [01:59:56] | directhex: | the projector supports 85hz |
| [01:59:59] | RyeBrye: | or at "boot" of MythtTV |
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| [02:01:03] | darkwizzard: | in myth welcome |
| [02:01:25] | RyeBrye: | the text and crap that shows up when you boot your machine is fine though? |
| [02:01:48] | purserj: | xris: yar figured it out, however I want to restrict this to a single subdomain. I host a lot of test stuff on my home web server so keeping it seperate is a "Good Thing(tm)" |
| [02:02:09] | RyeBrye: | only one IP on your home webserver? |
| [02:02:19] | darkwizzard: | yeah but wigs out |
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| [02:02:46] | darkwizzard: | still has shadows |
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| [02:04:02] | directhex: | right, bedtime. nighty night iamlindoro__ |
| [02:04:09] | iamlindoro__: | night |
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| [02:11:04] | DustyBin: | on mythtv .20 i could select the radio times grabber from the menu but now there is only a american grabber or EIT |
| [02:11:49] | DustyBin: | should i select 'no grabber' ? |
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| [02:12:11] | DustyBin: | "The first, probably the most popular is to allow mythtv-setup to run the grabber configuration script from the 'Video Source Setup' page. Please note that running the grabber config script from here requires the user to switch focus back to the terminal session mythtv-setup was started from." |
| [02:13:38] | DustyBin: | but now that doesnt exist! |
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| [02:19:12] | mythwoo_: | hello all |
| [02:19:31] | mythwoo_: | is anyone using a pcchdtv hd-3000 card in myth? |
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| [02:21:09] | mythwoo_: | I can't get the pchdtv card to tune channels in the setup program- I've tried 3 different antennas |
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| [02:22:44] | mythwoo_: | is anyone in here? |
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| [02:47:02] | darkwizzard: | well new problem |
| [02:47:03] | darkwizzard: | lol |
| [02:47:12] | darkwizzard: | lost my xserver |
| [02:47:17] | darkwizzard: | won't start |
| [02:47:27] | purserj: | hmm, anyone know if there is any effort afoot to bring mythnews to mythweb? |
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| [02:52:13] | fryfrog: | what, you mean like http://news.google.com |
| [02:54:25] | purserj: | no, like being able to manage feeds from mythweb as opposed to editing the raw xml |
| [02:56:18] | fryfrog: | OHHH! |
| [02:56:20] | fryfrog: | smart |
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| [03:07:46] | darkwizzard: | directhex u there |
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| [03:18:14] | xris: | purserj: no effort.. mainly because the author of mythweb uses, well, a web browser to read the news, rather than mythtv. |
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| [03:23:29] | purserj: | xris: hmm |
| [03:23:52] | ** xris finds it humorous to speak about himself in third person in IRC. :) ** | |
| [03:24:22] | purserj: | :P |
| [03:24:38] | purserj: | I was actually looking at using mythnews to manage pod/vodcast subscriptions |
| [03:25:47] | purserj: | and having spent half an hour this morning slotting all the Australian Broadcasting Corp pod/vodcasts into the xml file I figured mythweb would be handy for doing this sort of stuff |
| [03:28:58] | xris: | yeah, I wish someone would write a podcast downloader for mythtv... not that I'd use it, but it's a cool feature |
| [03:30:18] | purserj: | mythnews is pretty damn close |
| [03:30:29] | purserj: | it does the whole rss/pull down the file and play it bit now |
| [03:30:36] | purserj: | Just doesn't have anyway of storing it |
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| [03:31:20] | purserj: | just needs a little extending |
| [03:31:37] | purserj: | I'm going to be looking at it once I get this bloody site looking right |
| [03:32:05] | Gumby: | hello all. I am running ubuntu hardy with a nvidia video card using nvidia drivers from their website and a twinhan DVB card. Xorg is often using huge amounts of cpu cycles (80–90%). is this normal for this type of setup? |
| [03:33:08] | Gumby: | It wouldnt bother me but I am getting some slow down/speed up when watching livetv. (like in video games when the gpu cant keep up with the action) |
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| [03:42:05] | daMaestro: | so, what might cause a/v mis-sync on only one channel |
| [03:42:06] | daMaestro: | ? |
| [03:42:15] | daMaestro: | the skew has been between 2 and 2.5 seconds |
| [03:42:33] | daMaestro: | schedule data seems off by at least 5 minutes, too ... blah |
| [03:47:54] | jams: | GreyFoxx- you around? |
| [03:49:13] | jams: | Captain_Murdoch- you here? |
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| [03:52:55] | daMaestro: | wow, and it just shit out again :-/ |
| [03:53:09] | daMaestro: | (read: the skew changed again) |
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| [03:54:16] | daMaestro: | wow, no skew now |
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| [04:28:40] | psm321: | hi |
| [04:28:58] | psm321: | ineresting conundrum... mythfrontend won't let me delete a recording if it's file is empty |
| [04:29:19] | psm321: | (whereas it will for a missing file) |
| [04:37:01] | squidly: | w00t 0.21 has been released! |
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| [04:39:54] | Anduin: | ages ago |
| [04:40:33] | daMaestro: | psm321, oddly, i have the same issue |
| [04:40:52] | atomjack: | can anyone help me figure out why my backend keeps crashing with "terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::bad_alloc' ? |
| [04:41:17] | atomjack: | it happens randomly every 30 minutes or so |
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| [04:41:56] | anenigma_: | bad_alloc sounds like a memory allocation issue. my first guess is ram might be on the blink |
| [04:42:13] | atomjack: | ooof. ok |
| [04:42:44] | atomjack: | yeah sometimes it gives out of memory errors even though there's plenty of unused ram available (as seen when i run 'fre'e) |
| [04:45:20] | anenigma_: | i'd definately be testing the memory then. |
| [04:45:54] | Anduin: | actual bad memory throwing a bad_alloc would be nice, but is unrealistic |
| [04:46:27] | anenigma_: | "sounds like" :) i'm no memory expert, so i don't know exactly how it works |
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| [04:47:04] | Anduin: | atomjack: You should hook it up to a debugger and get a backtrace |
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| [04:47:31] | atomjack: | umm hook what up to a debugger? |
| [04:48:51] | Anduin: | atomjack: The backend |
| [04:49:24] | atomjack: | yeah thought so |
| [04:49:57] | atomjack: | um can you point me in the right direction to find instructions on how to do that? |
| [04:50:15] | atomjack: | or do i just use some command line options? |
| [04:51:31] | purserj: | atomjack: what distro? |
| [04:51:37] | psm321: | daMaestro: i actually figured it out... you only get that error if you tried to play it once in that "watch recordings" session... if you go into watch recordings and go straight to delete it'll work |
| [04:51:40] | atomjack: | fedora 8 |
| [04:52:03] | purserj: | hrmm I know the ubuntu livecd comes with a memory checker, not so sure about fedora |
| [04:52:19] | atomjack: | hmm ok, maybe i'll download that and give it a try |
| [04:52:25] | daMaestro: | umm |
| [04:52:31] | atomjack: | thanks |
| [04:52:31] | daMaestro: | atomjack, just install memtest |
| [04:52:32] | Anduin: | atomjack: simple instructions on generating a backtrace are in the main mythtv.org docs |
| [04:52:53] | atomjack: | oh cool ok |
| [04:53:01] | daMaestro: | atomjack, yum install memtest86+ |
| [04:53:13] | daMaestro: | atomjack, that will add an entry to grub so you can boot and run memtest |
| [04:53:13] | purserj: | or you could do that |
| [04:53:39] | atomjack: | oh ok cool |
| [04:53:39] | psm321: | id you get out of memory errors while there's free memory, i'd guess that would be the cause of the bad_alloc |
| [04:53:47] | psm321: | no idea what would cause that though |
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| [04:54:12] | daMaestro: | i'm using mythtv on f8 without issues |
| [04:54:23] | daMaestro: | but, i do have 2GB of ram |
| [04:54:51] | psm321: | bad memory tends to cause more random issues (though i suppose it could cause a bad_alloc too.. don't know enough about it) |
| [04:55:10] | atomjack: | i have 2gb of ram too |
| [04:55:16] | atomjack: | and it's been running fine for over a year |
| [04:55:32] | daMaestro: | atomjack, the last update from atrpms screwed up a couple things for me |
| [04:55:40] | atomjack: | well, more or less, none of these errors until just recently. i thoguht it might have to do with a bad drive in my raid 5 array (failed smart tests), but i replaced it and it still happens |
| [04:55:47] | daMaestro: | atomjack, i'm actually about to boot the new kernel (and thus restart mythbackend) |
| [04:55:53] | daMaestro: | hopefully that fixes any issues i've seen |
| [04:55:54] | atomjack: | yeah it seemed to coincide with an yum update |
| [04:56:09] | daMaestro: | i'm have a/v sync issues |
| [04:56:16] | ** daMaestro looks forward to rpmfusion having mythtv ** | |
| [04:56:34] | daMaestro: | brb |
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| [04:57:23] | atomjack: | hmm it doesn't look like installing memtest86+ made any changes to my grub.conf |
| [04:57:35] | atomjack: | crap |
| [04:58:25] | Anduin: | atomjack: There is usually a setup program to do that |
| [04:59:02] | atomjack: | oh wahttya know..memtest-setup |
| [04:59:07] | atomjack: | hmm |
| [04:59:41] | atomjack: | aha |
| [04:59:42] | atomjack: | there it is |
| [05:00:49] | atomjack: | thanks anduin |
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| [05:02:51] | floppyears: | hi guys |
| [05:03:08] | floppyears: | what format does mythtv record programs ? mp4 mpg2 ? |
| [05:03:41] | cesman: | hello floppyears |
| [05:03:48] | cesman: | that depends on your tuner |
| [05:03:51] | atomjack: | depends on the capture card i imagine but mostly mpeg2 |
| [05:04:14] | atomjack: | high def records in transport stream (.ts) which is just a special wrapper around mpeg-2 streams |
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| [05:18:03] | dirtsandwich: | I've got a few noobish questions that I was wondering if I could find some answers to... |
| [05:18:25] | dirtsandwich: | is anybody around? :) |
| [05:22:26] | cesman: | and your query is? |
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| [05:25:13] | dirtsandwich: | I've got Directv – building a myth box and I'm a bit confused by some of what I'm reading... |
| [05:25:21] | dirtsandwich: | oh this is HDTV btw |
| [05:25:43] | cesman: | ok |
| [05:26:35] | dirtsandwich: | so... what is the easiest way to get the HD signal to the myth box? My (maybe flawed) understanding is that cards like the pcHDTV cards work great with cable... not so much with satellite. |
| [05:26:54] | cesman: | at the moment, there is no way |
| [05:27:18] | dirtsandwich: | ok.... then what's the difference between DVB and ATSC? |
| [05:27:44] | cesman: | once Hauppauge releases thier PVR HD (I believe that is what is will be called) and the Linux support is there, then you'll be able to do HD w/ Directv |
| [05:27:45] | purserj: | DVB is the european digital standard |
| [05:27:50] | purserj: | ATSC is the US standard |
| [05:27:57] | purserj: | DVB is also much more sensible |
| [05:27:58] | dirtsandwich: | ohhhh |
| [05:28:19] | dirtsandwich: | well then that would make sense why we have atsc in the states... ;) |
| [05:28:24] | purserj: | yup |
| [05:28:56] | dirtsandwich: | any sort of dates with the hauppauge pvr hd? |
| [05:29:29] | purserj: | no idea sorry, I use a winfast in Australia |
| [05:29:35] | iamlindoro: | April/May, and it's HD-PVR |
| [05:30:07] | dirtsandwich: | oh that's not too bad. |
| [05:30:53] | iamlindoro: | Then waiting for linux support, then myth support |
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| [05:31:10] | iamlindoro: | and very likely compiling your own myth if you expect to have it work before September |
| [05:31:44] | dirtsandwich: | oh. lol |
| [05:33:47] | nuonguy: | iamlindoro: I don't understand that sentence |
| [05:33:58] | iamlindoro: | nuonguy: What's not to understand? |
| [05:34:38] | nuonguy: | are you saying that it takes a long time to compile? |
| [05:34:47] | cesman: | no |
| [05:34:53] | iamlindoro: | .21 was released, the HD-PVR doesn't even exist yet. Even if it *did* miraculously make the next myth release, that's going to be at least six months, necessitating that one compile between now and then |
| [05:35:04] | iamlindoro: | er be for |
| [05:35:04] | nuonguy: | ah |
| [05:35:33] | nuonguy: | couldn't dirtsandwich use the pctv wireless thing that was on woot yesterday? |
| [05:36:09] | iamlindoro: | nuonguy: There is *no* way to capture HD with DirectTV right now. At all. |
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| [05:36:38] | GreyFoxx: | Well.... there is, sorta, but it requires hardware modification :) |
| [05:37:02] | iamlindoro: | Corner cases aside!!!!! |
| [05:37:07] | iamlindoro: | GreyFoxx: et tu, brute?? |
| [05:37:18] | dirtsandwich: | is this the firewire mod? |
| [05:37:30] | dirtsandwich: | by the 169time guys |
| [05:37:41] | iamlindoro: | 169time is dead, not them |
| [05:37:58] | dirtsandwich: | oh really? ah. |
| [05:38:08] | iamlindoro: | and even if you *did* do that, no released version of myth can capture the data |
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| [05:40:34] | dirtsandwich: | wow thanks for mentioning that hd-pvr. Hopefully all will go smoothly so we can use it asap |
| [05:41:33] | iamlindoro: | It *will* get linux drivers, and probably quickly. I just try to remain cautious and realistic |
| [05:41:45] | dirtsandwich: | that's understandable |
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| [05:54:24] | RyeBrye: | Anyone had these errors when building before: "/usr/lib/gcc/i386-redhat-linux/4.1.2/../../../libGL.so: undefined reference to `_nv000044gl'" or "/usr/lib/nvidia/libGLcore.so.1: undefined reference to `_nv000042gl'" ? |
| [05:55:54] | cesman: | not I |
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| [06:15:43] | jarle: | RyeBrye: I seem to remember this as a bug where mythtv will not build on systems running legacy nvidia drivers... |
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| [06:23:37] | RyeBrye: | jarle – yeah. Strange. I'm not using the legacy driver, but had Livna drivers installed – I'm gutting those out and using the latest driver from Nvidia itself and seeing if that fixes it |
| [06:24:26] | t3fl0n: | hello, has anyone managed to get an fta box working with myth |
| [06:25:33] | RyeBrye: | Thank goodness for ccacche – that's all I can say... otherwise troubleshooting this "undefined symbol" crap would take me a lifetime |
| [06:30:15] | RyeBrye: | If I compile with the experimental OpenGL XvMC – I can configure that via my playback profiles, right? I'm not stuck using it all the time... correct? |
| [06:32:00] | RyeBrye: | knock on wood – using the nvidia-provided driver seems to be working for the compile... whereas the livna one did not |
| [06:32:30] | MonkeyPet: | what is libfreesurround used for? |
| [06:32:49] | RyeBrye: | my guess would be sound |
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| [07:00:05] | cbrunner: | hey, anyone around? |
| [07:00:30] | cbrunner: | since I upgraded to mythtv .21 I cant use my videos anymore |
| [07:00:38] | cbrunner: | like I cant select videos, or video manager |
| [07:00:41] | cbrunner: | or anything related to videos |
| [07:00:45] | cbrunner: | everything else works |
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| [07:11:31] | justdave_: | cbrunner: do you have MythVideo installed? |
| [07:11:47] | justdave_: | maybe that component got missed in the upgrade |
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| [07:21:33] | cbrunner: | justdave |
| [07:21:36] | cbrunner: | that was the problem |
| [07:21:45] | cbrunner: | it got screwed up in the upgrade |
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| [08:37:26] | nbags: | can anyone recommend a good remote for mythtv? |
| [08:38:56] | hads: | The MS MCE |
| [08:40:21] | ** purserj assumes we're talking a generic remote ** | |
| [08:41:15] | nbags: | well my avermedia usb dvb card has a remote but i have never got it to work. so i guess that means i should buy something. |
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| [08:41:27] | hnitsuj: | Microsoft MCE remotes are good apparently and they work in linux |
| [08:42:27] | ** purserj is happy with his winfast remote ** | |
| [08:42:43] | nbags: | hmmm ... damn microsoft |
| [08:42:50] | nbags: | i really don't want to give them my money |
| [08:42:59] | hnitsuj: | pffft |
| [08:43:06] | nbags: | pfffffffffffffft |
| [08:43:35] | hnitsuj: | nbags: MS don't actually _make_ the remote |
| [08:43:52] | hnitsuj: | you can get just about any MCE remote & it should work in linux anyway |
| [08:44:01] | hnitsuj: | doesn't have to be microsoft's |
| [08:44:05] | nbags: | i see |
| [08:44:19] | nbags: | so they all use the same driver on windows? |
| [08:45:30] | hnitsuj: | no idea but if you do some research on the mceusb & mceusb2 driver... |
| [08:45:49] | nbags: | ok. that sounds good. will check it out. |
| [08:46:28] | t3fl0n: | hello, what would be the best supported tv capture card and graphics card with tv out to get, also one that supports hdtv |
| [08:46:46] | hnitsuj: | nbags: this'll work in linux: http://www.hauppauge.co.uk/pages/products/data_mcremote.html |
| [08:47:02] | hnitsuj: | t3fl0n: whatever works in linux. don't buy ATI. DO NOT BUY ATI |
| [08:47:38] | t3fl0n: | haha, good point, i'm definitely going to get some type of nvidia, do u have any that u recommend |
| [08:47:44] | hnitsuj: | ATI's linux drivers are not fit for purpose yet |
| [08:48:38] | hnitsuj: | if you need HDMI, all you need is a card with DVI (use with a DVI-HDMI adapter) or HDMI output. Avoid their shared-memory hypercache bullshit, or whatever they call it |
| [08:50:27] | nbags: | there are $10 ones on ebay that look like they'll work. they don't come with drivers so they must be compatible. |
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| [08:51:26] | t3fl0n: | what about a tv capture card that supports hdtv |
| [08:52:23] | hnitsuj: | t3fl0n: only hd capture method is digital right now, so HDTV tuner cards like the pchd5500 – or over firewire from a suitably equipped cable STB |
| [08:52:41] | hnitsuj: | the first option is for HDTV through an antenna (OTA) |
| [08:53:50] | hnitsuj: | there's also a dual tuner network enabled HD tuner called the HDHomeRun – for OTA & QAM cable HDTV. Some HDTV tuner cards also work with cable QAM – but only what comes unencrippled |
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| [08:54:37] | t3fl0n: | so if i have this pchd5500 card and have an STB box, how would i integrate them together to where i would be able to record off the STB to my mythtv box and be able to control the STB through myth using a remote |
| [08:55:11] | hnitsuj: | no no no you can't capture HDTV from a STB with a tuner card, best you can do with a set top box is grab over firewire |
| [08:55:22] | purserj: | umm probably not unless the STB has a serial port/ethernet port and a public API |
| [08:56:01] | t3fl0n: | the tv capture card i was looking to get was the DVICO FusionHDTV5 RT Gold |
| [08:56:09] | hnitsuj: | 1) if the STB _has_ firewire and 2) if you have enough channels without 5C encryption on to make worthwhile. Some people only get what they could recieve over the air for free over their firewire connection |
| [08:56:15] | purserj: | they're not setup to control other devices |
| [08:56:44] | t3fl0n: | i'm actually looking to get an FTA box, do u know if it would be possible with one of those |
| [08:57:00] | hnitsuj: | t3fl0n: no need to get an FTA box |
| [08:57:53] | t3fl0n: | well i was looking to possibly integrate an FTA box with myth |
| [08:57:57] | hnitsuj: | when I was talking about the STB before I'd forgotten you guys now have FTA boxes available – I was referring to the STBs from cable providers |
| [08:58:10] | hnitsuj: | t3fl0n: that's just it! you don't have to! |
| [08:58:26] | purserj: | t3fl0n: why would you if you've got a digital capable card? |
| [08:58:45] | purserj: | I run all my digital stuff directly from my PC Card |
| [08:59:11] | t3fl0n: | really, what kind of card do you have that supports that |
| [08:59:14] | hnitsuj: | digital tuners for HDTV avoid the need for a set top box for HD you get over the air and (in some cases) what you get unencrypted on digital cable |
| [09:00:04] | hnitsuj: | t3fl0n: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/ATSC |
| [09:01:08] | hnitsuj: | that page is heavy on jargon though.. :( |
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| [09:01:41] | hnitsuj: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Video_Ca . . . DTV.29_cards might be more suitable for a shopping list |
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| [09:05:09] | t3fl0n: | so i could just use one of those cards instead of an FTA box |
| [09:05:14] | hnitsuj: | yes |
| [09:06:17] | hnitsuj: | right, time to go to work |
| [09:06:51] | t3fl0n: | cool i'll definitely be getting one of those instead, just out of curiousity though, is it possible to integrate an FTA box with myth |
| [09:07:04] | purserj: | not really |
| [09:07:19] | purserj: | STB's aren't designed to be controlled by external devices without hacking around |
| [09:09:15] | t3fl0n: | i heard its possible with some type of infrared device, but i didn't get much details on it |
| [09:25:06] | hads: | Yes, an IR blaster. There's two included with the MS MCE remote. |
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| [09:48:33] | hnitsuj: | IR blasting is really only for jobs where it's worthwhile – e.g. to capture SDTV from pay digital tv sources like cable/satellite – or indeed for controlling other equipment – some people have mythtv set up to dim lights & control AV receivers for movie watching (not a bad idea at all) |
| [09:55:36] | AndyCap: | heh, is there some girder equivalent for linux? |
| [09:56:02] | AndyCap: | lirc + scripting? :) |
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| [10:06:24] | hnitsuj: | lirc + bash, or lirc + perl ... |
| [10:06:47] | hnitsuj: | there are even perl bindings for lirc IIRC |
| [10:08:17] | purserj: | hrmm |
| [10:08:53] | hads: | Or Python |
| [10:09:59] | hnitsuj: | yeah but... python doesn't really exist :) |
| [10:10:35] | hads: | ? |
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| [10:12:11] | Dibblah: | I cheat and just use irexec + bash. |
| [10:12:29] | purserj: | can you check from within say one plugin to see if another plugin has been installed? |
| [10:12:57] | Dibblah: | Shockingly, my reciever uses 50w when on. So that's turned off from my automation scripts. |
| [10:21:04] | clever: | i dont see where the hook would be to power off when done recording |
| [10:21:14] | clever: | cant think of any scripts that get ran when finished |
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| [10:22:15] | Freman: | can anyone think of why mythfrontend would use 40% cpu sitting on the main screen idle? |
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| [10:22:31] | hnitsuj: | Freman: yes, you're using G.A.N.T and the opengl painter |
| [10:22:35] | Freman: | on my other box it uses 3% sitting with a video preview running |
| [10:22:48] | Freman: | hnitsuj: I tried switching it back to qt it didn't make it nicer |
| [10:23:02] | hnitsuj: | Freman: you need to restart the frontend for that change to take hold |
| [10:23:07] | hads: | Oh, justinh |
| [10:23:08] | Freman: | oh ok :) |
| [10:23:29] | Freman: | strange my other box is running gant and opengl also, must be something new huh? |
| [10:23:32] | hads: | Now I understand the Python attitude :) |
| [10:24:03] | hnitsuj: | G.A.N.T has a big logo which has the 'alphapulse' attribute attached to it – it's redrawing that 60 times a second at different transparencies |
| [10:24:14] | Freman: | eww |
| [10:24:16] | Freman: | that can't be good |
| [10:24:25] | Freman: | how about I switch to MythCenter then :) |
| [10:24:29] | hnitsuj: | no comment |
| [10:25:54] | directhex|work: | hnitsuj here's a big fan of iulius. you should use that |
| [10:26:09] | Freman: | tah once again justinh :) you save me :) |
| [10:27:15] | Freman: | tisn't for me :) |
| [10:27:48] | hnitsuj: | not a huge fan of any theme if I'm 100% honest |
| [10:28:00] | Freman: | I can concur with that sentiment |
| [10:28:17] | Freman: | iulius will do – seems to scale well for wide screen |
| [10:28:19] | Dibblah: | clever: Ah, sorry – Not digibox. I mean amplifier / receiver. |
| [10:29:18] | hnitsuj: | it's just not worth doing a new theme right now |
| [10:29:29] | Freman: | big changes inbound? :) |
| [10:29:37] | clever: | Dibblah: ahhh the output end? |
| [10:29:51] | hnitsuj: | and after that, it's just not worth putting one out there for ignorant, lazy, illiterate IDIOTS to whine about |
| [10:30:07] | clever: | i then the tv&sterio off when leaving the room, but i need 2 remotes for that atm, ontop of the lirc remote |
| [10:30:18] | clever: | so thats 3 remotes i need to use daily |
| [10:30:25] | Dibblah: | hnitsuj: Oh noes! You've been outed on the ML! |
| [10:30:45] | hnitsuj: | Dibblah: yeah, but it was never meant to be an incognito nick ;) |
| [10:30:56] | ** Freman hugs hnitsuj ** | |
| [10:30:59] | Dibblah: | Bloody hard to type, though. |
| [10:31:03] | clever: | ive thought of using irexec&irsend so when i hit POWER on my lirc remote it causes the computer to blast POWER at the tv |
| [10:31:07] | Dibblah: | clever: I have one remote. |
| [10:31:15] | clever: | making the lirc remote act like a universal one |
| [10:31:16] | Dibblah: | Which blaster? |
| [10:31:21] | Freman: | I've made my own boot/shudown splashes and nice 'look at me as an x background while mythlads' image |
| [10:31:28] | clever: | ive got a pvr150 and a serial blaster |
| [10:31:31] | Freman: | that's as far as I'm willing to go tho :) |
| [10:31:39] | clever: | the serial one is in use for the digital tuner |
| [10:31:45] | directhex|work: | quick! change your name to whfgvau |
| [10:31:49] | Dibblah: | Be careful – You need some dead time between the reception of the code and transmitting the on signal. |
| [10:31:55] | directhex|work: | nobody'll ever crack THAT advanced cipher |
| [10:32:01] | clever: | and the pvr150 cant blast without a special patch, which breaks the serial blaster |
| [10:32:06] | Dibblah: | ROT13 is so 80s. |
| [10:32:15] | clever: | so i cant fire both blasters at once |
| [10:32:29] | clever: | without playing musical chairs with my kernel modules |
| [10:32:31] | directhex|work: | why is rot13 in the "bsdgames" package? |
| [10:32:35] | clever: | on every button press |
| [10:32:45] | clever: | which would also mean having to restart lircd&mythfrontend |
| [10:33:14] | Dibblah: | For me, I just use the mceusb2. |
| [10:33:17] | clever: | which just makes the whole thing useless |
| [10:33:37] | Dibblah: | Which means the system draws 3w or so when not in use. |
| [10:33:37] | clever: | ive tried many times to get the serial control of the dct2000 working |
| [10:33:39] | directhex|work: | oh, anyone on a debian-based package, install "sl". it's the greatest package known to man |
| [10:33:43] | clever: | so i dont need the serial ir blaster |
| [10:33:48] | Dibblah: | (It's in STR) |
| [10:34:14] | clever: | so far all ive managed to do is get the dct2000 to dump random binary data at me |
| [10:34:19] | clever: | with the odd string |
| [10:35:05] | Dibblah: | However, it's not all good news. http://pendor.org/power/3h_power.png |
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| [10:35:23] | Dibblah: | I'm still at a 400w power floor :( |
| [10:35:45] | directhex|work: | turn off your fridge! |
| [10:35:58] | Dibblah: | That's only about 50w. |
| [10:36:08] | hnitsuj: | hugging on IRC ain't gonna bring mythtvthemes.co.uk back whatever |
| [10:36:14] | Dibblah: | (80w, 40% duty cycle) |
| [10:36:16] | clever: | neat |
| [10:36:16] | clever: | how are you gathering that data? |
| [10:36:16] | clever: | i could probly hook a a->d converter to the lpt port and bitwack the data in |
| [10:36:32] | Dibblah: | clever: Really, you don't want to know. |
| [10:37:02] | Dibblah: | I have a current transformer mounted around the mains input to the fusebox. |
| [10:37:17] | Dibblah: | A voltage transformer in the fusebox. |
| [10:37:21] | clever: | lol |
| [10:37:27] | purserj: | anyone work on mythnews here? |
| [10:37:34] | Dibblah: | A couple of resistive voltage dividers. |
| [10:37:46] | clever: | Dibblah: a real simple&safe method i can think of |
| [10:37:50] | Dibblah: | Attached to a soundcard, with some self-written software. |
| [10:37:56] | clever: | stick a webcam infront of the power meter |
| [10:38:01] | clever: | and read the dials thru software |
| [10:38:08] | clever: | no fire hazard! |
| [10:38:38] | Dibblah: | clever: If you have a recent power meter: http://phk.freebsd.dk/Eldims/ |
| [10:39:14] | clever: | because of the location&snow for our garage meter they replaced it with some digital one |
| [10:39:18] | clever: | that can be read remotely |
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| [10:39:32] | clever: | and the spining dial is covered with a bit of plastic with a bar code |
| [10:40:09] | clever: | Dibblah: im guessing just from the pics, that the LED blinks every so many watts |
| [10:40:15] | Dibblah: | Yup. |
| [10:40:18] | clever: | and the device counts the rate and records it |
| [10:40:27] | Dibblah: | But you can read the text... |
| [10:40:48] | clever: | reading the lcd display would let it cover gaps when the software was down |
| [10:40:56] | clever: | the meter would keep counting for you |
| [10:41:07] | clever: | and you just use the diff |
| [10:41:17] | clever: | but reading the lcd is more work |
| [10:41:30] | Dibblah: | And not really Myth related ;) |
| [10:41:35] | clever: | half inch of snow on the camera and its dead |
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| [10:41:42] | Dibblah: | Further discussion in ##electronics ;) |
| [10:42:19] | directhex|work: | so where is 400W disappearing off to? |
| [10:42:33] | directhex|work: | that's with no lighting, and you don't use electricity for heat, right? |
| [10:42:34] | hnitsuj: | next door! |
| [10:43:25] | Dibblah: | directhex|work: Most of the consumption is the Myth server (150w or so) |
| [10:43:27] | directhex|work: | hnitsuj, nah, there's a squatter in the basement |
| [10:43:37] | hnitsuj: | the poles in the attic? |
| [10:43:37] | directhex|work: | Dibblah, that's an awful lot for idle |
| [10:43:46] | Dibblah: | (8 HDs are expensive) |
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| [10:43:56] | directhex|work: | hm, suppose so |
| [10:44:05] | directhex|work: | and the rest? |
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| [10:45:55] | hnitsuj: | woo I have 20 off DRL packages to hand solder, with ickle wires attached to an 0402 resistor pack. joy! |
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| [10:46:30] | hnitsuj: | SOT-553 – wonder how small they are |
| [10:46:40] | Dibblah: | Work PC / Home PC / pumps / boiler / UPS / various plug-in chargers. |
| [10:47:06] | hnitsuj: | unpluggify all those wall warts. bet they eat a couple of W each quiescent |
| [10:47:49] | Dibblah: | hnitsuj: .5mm pitch. |
| [10:47:51] | Dibblah: | Massive. |
| [10:48:14] | Dibblah: | An 0402 resistor network? Are you sure? |
| [10:48:25] | hnitsuj: | maybe it's 0603 then |
| [10:48:43] | Dibblah: | Possible. I've only really seen down to 1208. |
| [10:49:08] | hnitsuj: | it's the size of four 0402 resistors, approx |
| [10:49:14] | Dibblah: | http://pendor.org/shared/nastyrework.jpg |
| [10:49:18] | hnitsuj: | fun to hand solder, anyhoo |
| [10:49:27] | Dibblah: | Those are 1208 |
| [10:49:38] | hnitsuj: | aye. big fish |
| [10:49:58] | Dibblah: | Thought you weren't in production work? |
| [10:50:03] | hnitsuj: | I'm not |
| [10:50:12] | hnitsuj: | these are R&D mods |
| [10:51:11] | ** hnitsuj hopes they're not gonna specify 0204 packages any time soon ** | |
| [10:51:12] | Dibblah: | Air wiring? |
| [10:51:55] | hnitsuj: | Air wiring? |
| [10:52:13] | hnitsuj: | diddy ickle kynar wires |
| [10:53:12] | Dibblah: | 0201, you mean? |
| [10:54:47] | Dibblah: | Or 01005 is even sillier. |
| [10:59:11] | Dibblah: | " a 01005 resistor occupies a PCB area of 0.1467 mm2" |
| [11:01:58] | clever: | Dibblah: ive been thinking of having a single 12v instead of many seperate 12v suplys |
| [11:02:09] | clever: | it would probly save power |
| [11:02:19] | Dibblah: | Only a little. |
| [11:02:24] | clever: | ive allready got a large source of 12v(3 12v baterys on a UPS) |
| [11:02:36] | Dibblah: | That's not 12v. |
| [11:02:56] | clever: | the UPS had a pair of 6v's in series inside the box, dead |
| [11:03:08] | clever: | i wired 3 12v baterys in paralel to it |
| [11:03:27] | clever: | its 12v and 3x the normal current |
| [11:03:42] | clever: | but if i dont draw any more current, i get 3x the output time instead |
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| [11:24:17] | purserj: | \o/ |
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| [11:54:57] | Nasha: | Hey ppl, for some reason Australia isnt listed for a grabber in my mythtv-setup, anybody know how i can fix this? |
| [11:55:24] | hnitsuj: | bah el reg had a thingy about error messages but the comment period has ended. I wanted to add my 'device not rigel' message a sata controller firmware flasher gives |
| [11:55:40] | directhex|work: | Nasha, does your system have a tv_grab_ of some kind for australia? |
| [11:55:53] | directhex|work: | hnitsuj, thedailywtf.com |
| [11:56:01] | purserj: | Nasha: honestly, you might be better off using the existing EIT if you're using a digital card |
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| [11:56:41] | hnitsuj: | directhex|work: cheers! |
| [11:56:56] | hnitsuj: | Nasha: methinks you need to install xmltv ;) |
| [11:58:00] | Nasha: | purserj: But xmltv gives me a week in advance :) |
| [11:58:08] | directhex|work: | hnitsuj, there's no tv_grab_au of any kind as standard by the look of it |
| [11:58:10] | Nasha: | hnitsuj: Im sure i did during the install |
| [11:58:17] | anenigma_: | how odd. for some reason, myth isn't recording past the end of the show. i've got the "record before start of show" set to 600 seconds, and the "record past end of show" set to 600 as well. it does record 10mins before the show, but has never recorded the 10 minutes past the show. running 0.21, no obvious errors |
| [11:58:26] | directhex|work: | i certainly don't have one |
| [11:58:43] | purserj: | Nasha: so does most of the EIT data |
| [11:58:47] | hnitsuj: | Nasha: EIT gives you a week now AFAIK |
| [11:58:52] | Nasha: | I know where i can find the tv_grab_au, is there somewhere i can put it so mythtv recognises it? |
| [11:59:08] | Nasha: | I wasnt aware of that heheh |
| [11:59:25] | anenigma_: | Nasha: put it in /usr/bin/ and the tv_find_grabbers script should find it |
| [11:59:33] | directhex|work: | Nasha, in $PATH |
| [12:02:15] | Nasha: | tv_ind_grabbers doesnt find it :( |
| [12:02:27] | Nasha: | Maybe ill just go with EIT |
| [12:02:29] | DustyBin: | Frosty-: i think ive found a small fix what makes things a hell of a lot better for Nova-T 500 users |
| [12:02:39] | Frosty-: | do tell |
| [12:02:49] | DustyBin: | TURN OFF EIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 |
| [12:02:55] | Frosty-: | I'm reading that looong thread on linuxtv |
| [12:03:03] | DustyBin: | i turned off EIT, and recorded a shit load of stuff, using dual tuners overlapping |
| [12:03:12] | DustyBin: | its still recording now, no B |
| [12:03:17] | DustyBin: | everything recorderd perfectly |
| [12:03:20] | DustyBin: | and still is |
| [12:03:23] | Frosty-: | got radiotimes to work? |
| [12:03:42] | DustyBin: | nope not yet, its using the data already there, once that runs out ill have no program listings |
| [12:04:04] | Frosty-: | okay |
| [12:04:14] | hnitsuj: | such a pity I could never be arsed to finish that uk_rt config wizard eh |
| [12:04:38] | Frosty-: | I think today I'll go back to 2.6.22 as since the kernel upgrade it crashes much more often |
| [12:04:45] | Frosty-: | yes hnitsuj, a pity |
| [12:05:30] | anenigma_: | http://pastebin.com/m9af111d <-- those database settings look correct for recording 10mins before and 10 mins after, right? this has me really confused |
| [12:05:31] | DustyBin: | it looks like uk_rt is nothing to do with mythtv |
| [12:05:34] | DustyBin: | http://www.penguin-soft.com/penguin/man/1/tv_grab_uk_rt.html |
| [12:06:45] | Frosty-: | there is only about 90 channels, I'll dump the current list and do it manually |
| [12:06:58] | Frosty-: | go back to 2.6.22 first, been hell with .24 |
| [12:07:42] | hnitsuj: | wow. xmltv in "nothing to do with mythtv" shocker! |
| [12:07:50] | DustyBin: | Frosty-: it might have something to do with this too: options usbcore autosuspend=-1 |
| [12:08:38] | DustyBin: | hnitsuj: how can i get mythtv to detect that script if i put it in .21 manually? |
| [12:08:47] | Frosty-: | DustyBin: cat /sys/bus/usb/devices/*/power/autosuspend | sort | uniq |
| [12:08:51] | rooau1: | anenigma_: They look like soft padding values, if the scheduler can drop them to avoid a conflict it will. |
| [12:09:06] | DustyBin: | server:/home/dustybin# cat /sys/bus/usb/devices/*/power/autosuspend | sort | uniq |
| [12:09:09] | DustyBin: | 2 |
| [12:09:19] | Frosty-: | same as me, the autosuspend value doesn't take |
| [12:09:24] | Frosty-: | 2 is the default |
| [12:09:24] | DustyBin: | :( |
| [12:09:29] | DustyBin: | bastards |
| [12:09:38] | Frosty-: | ah! |
| [12:09:45] | Frosty-: | but on my current kernel I have -1 |
| [12:09:47] | Frosty-: | weird |
| [12:09:58] | DustyBin: | dammmmmmmmmmm that means it works on newer kernels only |
| [12:10:21] | Frosty-: | well not like it helped me though :) |
| [12:10:38] | DustyBin: | ive read stuff from different sources saying that the problem is down to how the kernel handles usb |
| [12:10:45] | DustyBin: | hmmmm |
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| [12:11:07] | DustyBin: | Frosty, in mythtv-setup, the place where you put in your nova-t cards |
| [12:11:36] | hnitsuj: | DustyBin: mythtv'll find it if it's installed correctly. it knows where to look |
| [12:11:36] | DustyBin: | there are some recording options, in that menu, ive also added a 100 millisecond delay for the tuning, it says this helps the nova-t cards especially |
| [12:11:57] | Frosty-: | yeah I put it to 250 |
| [12:12:02] | DustyBin: | hnitsuj: the only problem is, where do you install it? does it simply go in /usr/local/bin ? |
| [12:12:16] | anenigma_: | rooau1: yeah that's what i've been used to. but even if there is nothing after it, it doesn't record the 10 minutes after. the 10 minutes before is working correctly however. |
| [12:12:24] | DustyBin: | Frosty-: turn off EIT from the same menu and see what happens |
| [12:12:40] | DustyBin: | Frosty-: there is also a option to turn on the card on demand only |
| [12:12:41] | Frosty-: | how long you been up for now? |
| [12:12:47] | DustyBin: | havent tried that yet |
| [12:13:01] | DustyBin: | Frosty-: its been on for 10 hours |
| [12:13:06] | DustyBin: | recording solidly no problems |
| [12:13:34] | Frosty-: | no gaps in recording? |
| [12:13:38] | DustyBin: | Encoder 1 is local on server and is recording: 'This Morning' on ITV1. This recording will end at 12:30 PM. |
| [12:13:41] | DustyBin: | Encoder 2 is local on server and is recording: 'The Daily Politics' on BBC TWO. This recording will end at 12:30 PM. |
| [12:13:55] | Frosty-: | any multirec? |
| [12:14:12] | DustyBin: | i have 1 broken recording, thats my crontab restarting at 8:00am |
| [12:14:17] | DustyBin: | mythbackend |
| [12:15:00] | rooau1: | DustyBin: I have seen discussion about nova-t 500 and eit, I haven't followed it closely but believe that it has caused problems for others. |
| [12:15:18] | Frosty-: | is there any known problems with standard nova-t and eit? |
| [12:15:23] | DustyBin: | EIT keeps the Nova-T on all the time, meaning it has more chance of going wrong |
| [12:16:00] | DustyBin: | Frosty-: there are still problems even with EIT turned off, but its less frequent, some people say maybe once a month |
| [12:16:14] | Frosty-: | that would be acceptable |
| [12:16:20] | DustyBin: | so my mythbackend restart every morning at 8am should make it last even longer |
| [12:16:27] | Frosty-: | twice a day is excessive :) |
| [12:16:45] | DustyBin: | thats what i was getting with EIT turned on, lots of 'B' blank recordings |
| [12:17:12] | DustyBin: | theres no way it lasted this long with this amount of recordings, but ill let you know how it gets on |
| [12:17:13] | Frosty-: | you know you could grab my script and change the restatr interval to once a day instead, at least you wono't get a broken recording |
| [12:17:22] | Frosty-: | yeah please do thanks |
| [12:17:25] | DustyBin: | Frosty-: aye ok thanks |
| [12:17:40] | DustyBin: | my next mission is getting that rt grabber script to work |
| [12:17:45] | DustyBin: | (if it still works :-S ) |
| [12:18:24] | DustyBin: | once this runs out, im doomed |
| [12:18:26] | DustyBin: | Last mythfilldatabase run started on 2008-03–18 05:26 and ended on 2008-03–18 05:26. Successful. |
| [12:18:27] | Frosty-: | nag hnitsuj :P |
| [12:18:29] | DustyBin: | There's guide data until 2008-03–26 16:00 (8 days). |
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| [12:20:31] | hnitsuj: | Frosty-: like that gets anybody anywhere. ask my wife |
| [12:20:46] | ** Frosty- nags ** | |
| [12:20:58] | Frosty-: | oh ok, I get it |
| [12:21:00] | ** Frosty- offers sex ** | |
| [12:21:10] | Frosty-: | always works for my gf |
| [12:21:17] | hnitsuj: | jesus. hugs, now sex. NO! |
| [12:22:06] | hnitsuj: | www.noteventhebestblowjobintheworldwillbringbackmythtvthemes.co.uk |
| [12:22:17] | DustyBin: | ive placed the script here but mythtv doesnt detect it: |
| [12:22:20] | DustyBin: | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root staff 6677 2006-01–15 01:13 /usr/local/bin/tv_grab_uk_rt |
| [12:22:49] | hnitsuj: | RTFM on installing xmltv |
| [12:22:58] | DustyBin: | aye ok |
| [12:23:51] | DustyBin: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Uk_xmltv <-- this thinks the script is there already! |
| [12:25:38] | ** DustyBin gives hnitsuj my root + password so i can sit back and let him sort it out while i enjoy my cup o tea :P ** | |
| [12:25:57] | hnitsuj: | can you spell fuck off? |
| [12:26:03] | DustyBin: | :-P |
| [12:26:37] | Frosty-: | f-u-c-k o-f-f |
| [12:26:38] | Frosty-: | I can! |
| [12:26:43] | ** hnitsuj hands DustyBin a clue ** | |
| [12:26:44] | ** Frosty- claps ** | |
| [12:27:00] | Frosty-: | what was mythtvthemes |
| [12:27:06] | Frosty-: | I'm a noob |
| [12:27:18] | hnitsuj: | nothing much |
| [12:31:12] | Frosty-: | sunny up north hnitsuj? |
| [12:31:19] | Frosty-: | was thinking of riding to rochdale today :o |
| [12:34:04] | purserj: | hmm okay that's interesting, the mythnews root is hardcoded |
| [12:35:02] | ** mzb_d800 admires hnitsuj's perseverence ** | |
| [12:35:53] | Kazan|AFK: | anyone here in seattle? |
| [12:35:56] | mzb_d800: | purserj: I was going to ask in #lca re your experiences with playing comics, etc (et al) |
| [12:36:49] | mzb_d800: | I've had probs with skipping video+audio in the feeds (can't recall if it's mythnews or something else with similar functionality) |
| [12:37:31] | mzb_d800: | (but figured #lca was OT) |
| [12:38:21] | purserj: | mzb_d800: by playing comics do you mean podcasts? |
| [12:38:27] | mzb_d800: | err |
| [12:38:38] | mzb_d800: | perhaps I'd better check, hang on |
| [12:40:27] | purserj: | okay |
| [12:40:56] | mzb_d800: | Information Centre -> News Feeds -> You Tube Most Viewed – All Time -> Evolution of Dance |
| [12:41:23] | mzb_d800: | downloads media ... starts playing (14MB) |
| [12:41:33] | mzb_d800: | (sorry slow as hell) |
| [12:42:06] | mzb_d800: | [ ps. comics are another story, I think] |
| [12:42:14] | purserj: | ah okay |
| [12:42:32] | purserj: | with the youtube stuff I haven't noticed much skipping, downloads are slow as buggery |
| [12:42:43] | mzb_d800: | but then when it plays, I get jerky video, and skipping audio (if that makes any sense) |
| [12:43:04] | purserj: | yar, what's your processor doing at the time? |
| [12:43:11] | mzb_d800: | err. |
| [12:43:34] | mzb_d800: | currently 52% (while downloading) |
| [12:43:44] | purserj: | ah feck, my patch broke youtube downloads |
| [12:43:49] | mzb_d800: | 92% |
| [12:44:06] | mzb_d800: | playing |
| [12:44:14] | purserj: | that could be your problem |
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| [12:44:34] | purserj: | if it's maxing out the cpu then you're going to get that skipping problem |
| [12:44:40] | mzb_d800: | video appears fine |
| [12:44:56] | mzb_d800: | playback is %12 |
| [12:45:12] | mzb_d800: | but audio is constantly skipping |
| [12:45:35] | mzb_d800: | cpu usage is constant (12%) |
| [12:45:37] | purserj: | hmm haven't experienced that sorry. |
| [12:45:46] | purserj: | what are you using for your external player? |
| [12:46:06] | mzb_d800: | not sure |
| [12:46:16] | mzb_d800: | heaps of audio buffer overflow in logs |
| [12:46:21] | purserj: | what distro? |
| [12:46:31] | mzb_d800: | lenny |
| [12:47:27] | purserj: | lenny being the latest version of debian? |
| [12:47:33] | mzb_d800: | mx440 video with XvMC (working!) |
| [12:47:35] | mzb_d800: | err |
| [12:47:45] | mzb_d800: | it's *fairly* up to date |
| [12:47:50] | purserj: | hmm |
| [12:47:50] | mzb_d800: | *testing* |
| [12:48:11] | purserj: | you might find that your external player might not be as up to date as it could be |
| [12:48:51] | mzb_d800: | err... how do I determine if News Feeds is using an external player? |
| [12:49:03] | mzb_d800: | would it be better with internal? |
| [12:49:28] | mzb_d800: | ie: how do I diagnose +/- test? |
| [12:49:35] | purserj: | if you run mythfrontend from a command line prompt then you should be able to see what it's using to play a file |
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| [12:51:14] | mzb_d800: | ah |
| [12:51:39] | mzb_d800: | maybe it has something to do with my (restrictive) custom CPU profile? |
| [12:51:54] | mzb_d800: | (I only have one entry) |
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| [12:52:39] | mzb_d800: | I've set it up that way because none of the default profile work (well) |
| [12:52:52] | mzb_d800: | *profiles |
| [12:53:40] | mzb_d800: | but the end result is that I have a profile that tries opengl for anything with "rez" > 0x0 |
| [12:54:10] | mzb_d800: | works fine for all my mpeg2 stuff, and fallback is fine for everything else |
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| [12:54:36] | mzb_d800: | do you think this is the setting that is affecting the News Feed playback? |
| [12:55:03] | mzb_d800: | maybe if I downloaded a flash movie and fiddled I know more? |
| [12:56:02] | mzb_d800: | just doesn't seem right, with the CPU usage during (attempted) playback being so low (while the video seems acceptable for an ultra-compressed video) |
| [12:56:57] | mzb_d800: | doing mythfrontend from a commandline would be a challenge as this is a remote box (under-floor mount) |
| [12:57:33] | mzb_d800: | ie: technically possible but a lot of f0rking around |
| [12:57:49] | mzb_d800: | (and not enough beer for the job;) |
| [12:57:50] | purserj: | if your external player is a bit behind the times, it might not support .flv's properly |
| [12:57:54] | purserj: | hence the audio skipping |
| [12:58:18] | ** directhex|work has moar graphics than you ** | |
| [12:58:34] | mzb_d800: | right, so how do I determine if *that video type* is using an external player |
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| [12:59:06] | ** mzb_d800 congratulates directhex|work for his MHz ;) ** | |
| [13:00:27] | DustyBin: | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 6677 2008-03–18 12:58 /usr/bin/tv_grab_uk_rt |
| [13:00:28] | DustyBin: | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root staff 6677 2006-01–15 01:13 /usr/local/bin/tv_grab_uk_rt |
| [13:00:31] | purserj: | can't recall offhand sorry |
| [13:00:41] | DustyBin: | ^^^ mythtv doesnt detect that script in either place |
| [13:01:24] | directhex|work: | DustyBin, 0.21? |
| [13:01:45] | mzb_d800: | perhaps I need to *actually* associate a player with that mime type? |
| [13:01:57] | mzb_d800: | s/file type |
| [13:02:07] | DustyBin: | directhex|work: yes |
| [13:02:35] | mzb_d800: | if so, which player should I try (I assume extension is something like .flv) |
| [13:02:59] | mzb_d800: | (it's not set by default) |
| [13:03:40] | purserj: | what version of myth are you using? |
| [13:03:52] | DustyBin: | .21 fixes |
| [13:04:03] | mzb_d800: | ps: running mythfrontend from command line to look for errors sounds nonsensical. Shouldn't *all* errors go to log (when enabled) |
| [13:04:10] | mzb_d800: | purserj: 0.21 fixes |
| [13:04:46] | mzb_d800: | Library API : 0.21.20080304–1 |
| [13:04:49] | purserj: | re running from cmd line, it's the easiest way I've found of debugging, your experience may differ |
| [13:05:00] | purserj: | I'm knee deep in mythnews code at the moment let me check |
| [13:05:03] | mzb_d800: | yep, fair enough |
| [13:05:05] | mzb_d800: | ok |
| [13:05:07] | mzb_d800: | thx |
| [13:05:29] | Ojg: | anyone having sound problems with 0.21 ? |
| [13:05:45] | mzb_d800: | purserj: I have a little time to spare if you need a guinea pig |
| [13:05:47] | hnitsuj: | DustyBin: maybe the xmltv version isn't new enough. try one of their nightly tarballs |
| [13:06:05] | mzb_d800: | (but more later) |
| [13:06:15] | DustyBin: | hnitsuj: aye ok |
| [13:06:29] | purserj: | mzb_d800: just trying to fix a bug I created fiddling around trying to add permanent file retention to mythnews for podcasts/vodcasts |
| [13:06:35] | hnitsuj: | Frosty-: no idea what it's like in Rochdale. gloomy as usual near runcorn where I work |
| [13:07:05] | mzb_d800: | purserj: err ... you mean like pseudo-proxy? |
| [13:07:44] | mzb_d800: | (ie: test the same video [x] times without downloading it every time?) |
| [13:07:59] | mzb_d800: | s/proxy/cache |
| [13:08:21] | DustyBin: | hnitsuj: thanks, i forgot to do this: apt-get install xmltv xmltv-util |
| [13:08:33] | DustyBin: | i thought that script was standalone |
| [13:08:48] | purserj: | mzb_d800: more along the lines of turning mythnews into mythtv's podcast/vodcast app |
| [13:08:52] | hnitsuj: | thinking. the enemy of humanity strikes again |
| [13:09:28] | mzb_d800: | purserj: I must be too old to understand the podcast theory ;) |
| [13:09:55] | ** mzb_d800 thinks about doing research but decides it's too late in the day ** | |
| [13:11:11] | hnitsuj: | podcasts, like blogs only usually even more pointless |
| [13:11:18] | mzb_d800: | heh |
| [13:11:40] | purserj: | orrr timeshifted versions of radio programmes such as the ABC's current affairs and news programmes |
| [13:11:51] | mzb_d800: | I've listened to a couple, but as you say, I can't see the point (yet) |
| [13:12:04] | mzb_d800: | ah |
| [13:12:16] | mzb_d800: | well ... that's starting to make sense |
| [13:12:36] | hnitsuj: | funny, but there's this app which runs on linux – rumour has it, (wait for it).. it can RECORD TELEVISION & allow it to be played back later. I mean – the very idea! |
| [13:12:43] | purserj: | I don't listen to the "oh noes kittens!" type casts, they annoy the crap out of me |
| [13:13:00] | mzb_d800: | I'd have to get used to the idea (in a mythtv environment) for it to make a difference to my way of thinking, I guess |
| [13:13:17] | purserj: | hnitsuj: yeah good, how is it at handling non tv delivered media linked to a really simple syndication file? |
| [13:13:30] | purserj: | mzb_d800: to each their own :) |
| [13:13:32] | hnitsuj: | :-\ |
| [13:13:44] | purserj: | this is an itch I feel like scratching |
| [13:14:17] | mzb_d800: | purserj: I understand the concept ... and I can sort of see the application ... but I'd have to use it to have an opinion |
| [13:14:19] | hnitsuj: | done right it might be interesting, hell – even useful |
| [13:15:04] | purserj: | re mythnews' selecting which media player, I think it hands off to the main mythtv for that |
| [13:15:18] | mzb_d800: | but then, as I've said ... I really haven't played with podcasts much ... I guess if I did, then mythtv integration would be a fantastic feature |
| [13:15:54] | hnitsuj: | purserj: pretty sure mythnews could already do that – I tested trunk mythnews last year & had it downloading youtube crap & stuff |
| [13:15:54] | purserj: | yup |
| [13:16:10] | hnitsuj: | it's just the lack of adding feeds in the UI which is a pain |
| [13:16:13] | mzb_d800: | ok, thanks ... I'll have more of a play ... I'd like to get it sorted within 3 weeks ... so I'll investigate more thoroughly in time |
| [13:16:22] | purserj: | hnitsuj: it does, however it's only a temp file download, I'm changing it to store the files |
| [13:16:27] | hnitsuj: | ah |
| [13:17:04] | hnitsuj: | so it'll go off every now & then to grab the feeds so they're ready to use as & when you want |
| [13:17:09] | purserj: | I had thought about passing the vodcasts off to mythvideo and podcasts to mythmusic but there is no garauntee they'll be installed |
| [13:17:11] | hnitsuj: | big plus :) |
| [13:17:12] | mzb_d800: | hnitsuj: and my issue with the youtube crap (et al) is that the audio skips (as above) |
| [13:17:23] | purserj: | that's the general idea :) Right now they are download on demand |
| [13:17:23] | mzb_d800: | (youtube as test) |
| [13:17:57] | purserj: | and of course mythnews doesn't seem to allow you to change it's root directory unless you change the code |
| [13:18:03] | purserj: | So there is a bit of work to be done |
| [13:18:52] | mzb_d800: | sounds like a great idea |
| [13:19:31] | purserj: | right I've fixed the youtube download issue with the original patch, so I'll lob the new one up |
| [13:19:51] | mzb_d800: | what's the issue? |
| [13:20:46] | DustyBin: | ive never done a perl Makefile.PL before |
| [13:21:19] | purserj: | mzb_d800: it was pulling down the youtube files as getfile?fkdhfslhjfasdhfskj and so on |
| [13:21:28] | mzb_d800: | I can see I'm going to have to write a script called "update_my_mythtv-boxen_to_current_0.21-fixes.sh" ;) |
| [13:21:37] | purserj: | So what I've done is told it to pull down the file as Article_Title instead |
| [13:22:39] | mzb_d800: | purserj: I get the feeling that is not what my problem is (as video is playing) ... so I'm guessing this is an improvement to something you've already done? |
| [13:23:11] | purserj: | yar, I'm sorry but beyond the player not supporting .flv properly I couldn't tell you what your problem could be |
| [13:23:51] | mzb_d800: | ok ... thx for your help ... I'll investigate further |
| [13:26:24] | mzb_d800: | need to test my current upgrade first ... managed to seperate my (main) FE + tuners for a sum total of $16 ... now have 2x DVB tuners + drives in their own case. Just seeing if I can get WAF+++ before further experimentation (few jobs already in the queue but looking good so far;) |
| [13:27:05] | mzb_d800: | also have dual CPU mobo (only 1x 1GHz installed) on the way which may make a big difference |
| [13:27:29] | mzb_d800: | (cheap as hell ... couldn't help myself;) |
| [13:28:26] | mzb_d800: | also got VOIP on the boil ... so should be fun when g/f gets OSD "Man want's something" ;)) |
| [13:30:50] | mzb_d800: | purserj: just for clarification can you tell me if you have an external player defined for .flv? (I don't) |
| [13:35:02] | purserj: | mplayer is what I've got as the default for file types not recognised by the internal player |
| [13:37:04] | mzb_d800: | ah |
| [13:37:37] | mzb_d800: | I'll have to have look into that (mirror theory;) |
| [13:38:20] | purserj: | hmm, I've just noticed that the audio seems to be slipping on some .flv files |
| [13:39:31] | mzb_d800: | heh ... now at least I don't feel alone ;) |
| [13:40:05] | purserj: | so it's probably the way that mplayer handles .flv files |
| [13:40:15] | mzb_d800: | but still ..not certain about this "unrecognised file type -> mplayer" theory |
| [13:40:51] | mzb_d800: | if I knew how, I might be able to change it to something else ;) |
| [13:40:57] | purserj: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/MythVide . . . onfiguration |
| [13:41:08] | purserj: | from what I can tell, that's where it gets setup |
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| [13:44:03] | Thomas-: | anyone using MythStream (or another youtube/googlevideo plugin you can recommend?) |
| [13:44:23] | Justin__: | it seems im experiencing a bug that is 2 years old and supposed to be fixed. There are two channels I get a "RingBuf" error every time I try to tune them: "Invalid file (fd -1) when opening ....mpg" |
| [13:44:37] | Justin__: | yet i can tune the channel manuel and stream in vlc just fine |
| [13:44:41] | Justin__: | (hdhomerun) |
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| [13:46:02] | DustyBin: | what is ITV london called? |
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| [13:46:27] | mzb_d800: | purserj: Default Video Player = Internal |
| [13:46:34] | mzb_d800: | I'll try mplayer |
| [13:46:40] | mzb_d800: | (for fun;) |
| [13:47:35] | purserj: | heh |
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| [13:49:07] | mzb_d800: | fyi: db value is VideoDefaultPlayer (at host) |
| [13:49:27] | purserj: | tah |
| [13:49:43] | mzb_d800: | will try: mplayer -fs -zoom -quiet -ao oss -vo xv %s |
| [13:49:51] | zukex: | hey, got a little hasty and bought a matrox g450 with 16mb..... would that affect playing HD content, or are the requirements more on the cpu and system ram? |
| [13:50:52] | mzb_d800: | confirmed setting change (performed with phpmyadmin) |
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| [13:52:02] | mzb_d800: | YouTube – "Evolution of Dance" downloading |
| [13:52:28] | mzb_d800: | tailing frontend log |
| [13:52:51] | mzb_d800: | MythNews: VideoURL http://youtube.com/get_video.php?video_id=dMH . . . g_5LuPCBieC- |
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| [13:53:07] | mzb_d800: | (caching is a top idea;) |
| [13:53:47] | mzb_d800: | cpu is %45 just for the "downloading media" dialog ... hmmph |
| [13:53:48] | purserj: | yar means you don't have to keep downloading the same clip over and over again |
| [13:53:55] | mzb_d800: | yep ;) |
| [13:54:12] | mzb_d800: | would make testing easier ;) |
| [13:54:50] | mzb_d800: | problem solved |
| [13:55:00] | mzb_d800: | thanks purserj :)) |
| [13:55:11] | jamesd: | squid is your freind though it will not cache youtube by default because of the arguments passed. |
| [13:55:55] | mzb_d800: | jamesd: I have a proxyserver (with squid) ... how can I get mythtv (or mythnews) to honour it? |
| [13:56:52] | jamesd: | no idea, i'm still a mythnewbie... perhasp setting http_proxy and ftp_proxy would help... i know some software automaticly use the proxy if configured |
| [13:57:23] | purserj: | mzb_d800: no worries |
| [13:57:45] | purserj: | mzb_d800: are you running from sources or pre-packaged? |
| [13:57:53] | mzb_d800: | source |
| [13:59:06] | mzb_d800: | jamesd: no ... I have proxy values set for wget and for apt |
| [13:59:34] | purserj: | patch is here if you want to play with it: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/4990 |
| [13:59:49] | mzb_d800: | (I have apt-cacher running in a vm on another machine, and a proxyserver as another vm) |
| [14:00:20] | mzb_d800: | purserj: for the caching I assume? |
| [14:01:33] | purserj: | mzb_d800: yup |
| [14:03:16] | mzb_d800: | ok, thanks ... I'll look into it (more mirror theory) ... sounds like a great idea ... got a party coming up and I know at least one visitor will love it (particular if I've pre-cached some examples) |
| [14:03:24] | mzb_d800: | (hence 3-week target) |
| [14:03:38] | purserj: | ah cool |
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| [14:04:13] | mzb_d800: | btw: 1st video played find, now having problems downloading others (ie: anything) ... probably not related |
| [14:05:12] | mzb_d800: | WAF was not positive ... she seems to have other ideas ... I'd better bring tonight's fun and games to a close |
| [14:05:19] | purserj: | cool, at least it worked for the first one |
| [14:05:48] | mzb_d800: | but at least we both know that the internal player is no good for mythnews (aka. YouTube) videos |
| [14:05:57] | mzb_d800: | yep ... thanks again |
| [14:06:12] | mzb_d800: | btw: I assume you went to lca? |
| [14:06:20] | mzb_d800: | coming to hbt? |
| [14:07:38] | purserj: | if I can get the money together, yeah |
| [14:07:54] | mzb_d800: | that'd be great :) |
| [14:08:16] | mzb_d800: | let me know if you need help (accom. etc.) |
| [14:08:59] | mzb_d800: | g/f might be able to get you discount (work), or we might have spare room (if in same place, etc) |
| [14:09:04] | purserj: | no worries, will know a bit more closer to the dates |
| [14:09:11] | mzb_d800: | YAY |
| [14:09:17] | mzb_d800: | 2nd test working |
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| [14:09:34] | purserj: | nice |
| [14:09:58] | DustyBin: | is this the UK grabber for BBC3 ? |
| [14:10:00] | DustyBin: | channel choice.bbc.co.uk |
| [14:10:13] | purserj: | anyhoo it's 1am so time for bed |
| [14:10:16] | purserj: | night all |
| [14:10:25] | mzb_d800: | ODD video ... but still , it works |
| [14:10:37] | mzb_d800: | yep, gnite purserj, me2 |
| [14:10:40] | mzb_d800: | gnite all |
| [14:11:54] | mzb_d800: | "Boston Dynamics Big Dog" ... I've obviously had too much to drink ;) |
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| [14:12:30] | mzb_d800: | (YouTube that is ... "Most Viewed Today") |
| [14:14:30] | directhex|work: | you picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue |
| [14:15:02] | mzb_d800: | lol |
| [14:15:11] | mzb_d800: | never tried it ;) |
| [14:15:19] | mzb_d800: | maybe I should start> |
| [14:15:21] | mzb_d800: | ? |
| [14:15:47] | mzb_d800: | just a mythtv+youtube test .... 2nd thing I found that worked |
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| [14:20:40] | mzb_d800: | makes me wonder why these things can't be played as they download, but I'm not fussy |
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| [14:25:00] | hnitsuj: | teh buffery, teh buffery! |
| [14:25:21] | directhex|work: | omgbufferlol |
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| [14:25:58] | hnitsuj: | MOAR_NO_YOUTUBE |
| [14:26:51] | mzb_d800: | dm ... just wanted it in case of unreasonable demands from sister-in-law |
| [14:26:58] | mzb_d800: | happy now |
| [14:27:20] | mzb_d800: | except must depart before WAF drops below 0 |
| [14:27:24] | mzb_d800: | thanks all |
| [14:27:27] | mzb_d800: | gnite |
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| [14:38:16] | DustyBin: | i knew how to do this once, how do you run mythtv-setup from another computer? i get this: mythtv-setup: cannot connect to X server |
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| [14:38:47] | DustyBin: | DISPLAY:0 <-- something like that |
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| [14:40:24] | directhex|work: | use "ssh -X" |
| [14:40:33] | directhex|work: | rather than "ssh" |
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| [14:41:48] | DustyBin: | DISPLAY=:0 mythtv-setup <-------------- thats it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| [14:42:37] | DustyBin: | i am invinsible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| [14:42:45] | ** DustyBin twists pen ** | |
| [14:45:04] | ** squidly watches a bunch on liquid nitrogen fall down and freaze him solid in less then a second ** | |
| [14:46:14] | directhex|work: | i make an excellent Boris |
| [14:47:27] | DustyBin: | now i can use mythtv grabber properly |
| [14:48:09] | squidly: | directhex|work: lol |
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| [14:53:41] | lanuser: | Is it possible to use the PS3 with Linux for a Myth backend/frontend combo? |
| [14:54:36] | directhex|work: | lanuser, yes, with a few caveats |
| [14:55:10] | lanuser: | directhex|work what are the caveats? |
| [14:55:37] | directhex|work: | lack of RAM. USB tuners only. lack of video drivers to make fullscreen video watchable. |
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| [14:56:37] | lanuser: | low RAM and USB tuners I could probably live with, but no fullscreen video would be a deal killer |
| [14:57:10] | directhex|work: | there was some work on optimizing myth to offload things via libspe2 |
| [14:57:24] | directhex|work: | and also work on hacking the hypervisor to provide a proper non-framebuffer video driver |
| [14:57:31] | directhex|work: | i don't know how far either effort went |
| [14:57:33] | hashbang: | anyone thought about a firmware replacement project for some of the media HDD caddies out there? |
| [14:57:48] | directhex|work: | in general, i'd attach a "sucks" label to ps3 linux |
| [14:57:59] | directhex|work: | hashbang, major job |
| [15:00:10] | iamlindoro_: | I think that myth on anything with the word "embedded" associated with it is bad news |
| [15:00:52] | directhex|work: | it's iamlindoro! |
| [15:01:13] | iamlindoro_: | try as I might to deny it |
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| [15:01:41] | iamlindoro_ is now known as orodnilmai | |
| [15:01:46] | orodnilmai: | wait, who? |
| [15:01:55] | directhex|work: | i have a new toy. http://www2.apebox.org/wordpress/wp-content/g . . . idia-001.jpg |
| [15:02:22] | orodnilmai: | Is this a guessing game? does it start with the digit "9"? |
| [15:02:47] | directhex|work: | it does not! think biggar! |
| [15:03:03] | orodnilmai: | Mobo? |
| [15:03:24] | directhex|work: | strictly speaking, no |
| [15:03:32] | hashbang: | directhex|work: I don't doubt it. :-) |
| [15:03:50] | hashbang: | directhex|work: some of them have USB, though, so could conceivably stream over wifi |
| [15:04:05] | orodnilmai: | directhex|work, I give up, tell me |
| [15:04:11] | directhex|work: | http://www.nvidia.com/object/tesla_gpu_server.html |
| [15:04:13] | hashbang: | directhex|work: and, of course, all the video output hardware is sane, hopefully, even if docs aren't available |
| [15:04:29] | orodnilmai: | Holacrap |
| [15:04:35] | orodnilmai is now known as iamlindoro_\ | |
| [15:04:38] | iamlindoro_\: | argh |
| [15:04:46] | iamlindoro_\ is now known as iamlindoro_ | |
| [15:05:17] | directhex|work: | a 1u graphics card! |
| [15:05:17] | iamlindoro_: | Oh that's right, you work in one o' them there supercomputing centers |
| [15:05:41] | directhex|work: | a 1u graphics card with no graphics outputs on it, so no quake for directhex|work :( |
| [15:05:41] | iamlindoro_: | That ought to juuuuust about get Crysis running |
| [15:06:54] | directhex|work: | am i a bad man for enjoying an elton john track? |
| [15:07:52] | iamlindoro_: | Not a bad man so much as an excellent woman |
| [15:08:15] | directhex|work: | XD |
| [15:08:26] | iamlindoro_: | I try to accentuate the positive |
| [15:08:33] | ** iamlindoro_ cracks open the 8 AM soda ** | |
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| [15:08:45] | directhex|work: | not beer o'clock over in yankland yet? |
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| [15:09:32] | iamlindoro_: | As amusing as the idea of being drunk before my coworkers even arrive is, not just yet-- besides, yesterday was St. Paddy's Day and I'm a good irish boy, so still recovering from that |
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| [15:10:33] | iamlindoro_: | I wonder if i can sneak watching the Daily Show in before the other shlubs arrive |
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| [15:11:01] | ** psymin received his pchdtv card ** | |
| [15:11:22] | iamlindoro_: | psymin, Good, it's a very nice card, and good to help companies that are so pro-linux, too |
| [15:11:29] | ** psymin nods. ** | |
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| [15:23:31] | DustyBin: | i am invinsible!!! |
| [15:23:33] | DustyBin: | 2008-03–18 15:21:47.269 Found 29 channels for source 1 which use grabber |
| [15:23:43] | mjj29: | anyone here using lirc with mythtv? |
| [15:23:49] | DustyBin: | me |
| [15:24:00] | mjj29: | ircat mythtv prints the correct events |
| [15:24:03] | iamlindoro_: | Nope, we all just plug in keyboards and Atari 2600 joysticks |
| [15:24:09] | DustyBin: | lol |
| [15:24:11] | mjj29: | but nothing happens in myth |
| [15:24:15] | DustyBin: | they are kind of stiff but do the job |
| [15:24:53] | mjj29: | any ideas of what to do next or what debug I can do? |
| [15:24:55] | directhex|work: | mjj29, is your lircrc in the right place? |
| [15:25:05] | mjj29: | it's definitely linked against liblirc_client |
| [15:25:43] | mjj29: | directhex|work: what's the correct place? it's in ~/.lircrc and ~/.mythtv/.lircrc |
| [15:25:54] | directhex|work: | ~/.mythtv/lircrc |
| [15:25:54] | mjj29: | or do I need ~/.mythtv/lircrc ? |
| [15:25:57] | mjj29: | aha |
| [15:26:35] | ** mjj29 restarts it ** | |
| [15:27:43] | mjj29: | win |
| [15:27:52] | mjj29: | except I have the volume controls the wrong way around |
| [15:27:59] | mjj29: | also, what's the correct mapping for channel up/down? |
| [15:28:11] | mjj29: | pgup/down skips forward/back |
| [15:28:25] | directhex|work: | you can change them to suit your whims |
| [15:28:38] | directhex|work: | easiest way is via mythweb |
| [15:30:05] | hashbang: | mjj29: I symlink one to the other and chuck all my lirc stuff in one file |
| [15:30:15] | mjj29: | hashbang: yeah, me to |
| [15:30:20] | mjj29: | just symlinked it to the wrong path |
| [15:31:28] | mjj29: | directhex|work: any way without mythweb? |
| [15:31:49] | iamlindoro_: | MythControls, but directhex|work is right, mythweb is faaaar simpler |
| [15:31:52] | directhex|work: | possibly. nothing i've used |
| [15:32:11] | mjj29: | what's the default for channel up/down? |
| [15:32:15] | iamlindoro_: | up/down |
| [15:32:33] | mjj29: | that just shows the channel, doesn't change it |
| [15:32:38] | iamlindoro_: | yup |
| [15:32:41] | iamlindoro_: | press OK |
| [15:32:50] | mjj29: | sure, is there no actual channel up/down then? |
| [15:33:03] | iamlindoro_: | You can set the setting for it to be, but you don't want that |
| [15:33:11] | iamlindoro_: | it'll be 5 seconds for every channel change |
| [15:33:20] | mjj29: | true |
| [15:33:36] | iamlindoro_: | anyway, all those settings are in TV Playback and General settings |
| [15:34:03] | mjj29: | right |
| [15:34:04] | iamlindoro_: | But browse mode is far better, you'll go insane if every up/down key changes the channels |
| [15:34:11] | mjj29: | fair enough |
| [15:34:54] | mjj29: | next is working out how to have mplayer not get two events every time I press a key |
| [15:35:05] | mjj29: | it's not useful for pause... |
| [15:35:16] | directhex|work: | the "repeat" line, iirc |
| [15:35:21] | iamlindoro_: | yup |
| [15:35:22] | mjj29: | directhex|work: no effect |
| [15:35:25] | mjj29: | \-: |
| [15:35:31] | mjj29: | irw shows only 1 event |
| [15:35:34] | mjj29: | ircat shows two |
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| [15:35:41] | mjj29: | and mplayer pause/unpauses |
| [15:35:49] | mjj29: | with any setting of repeat and delay \-: |
| [15:35:50] | iamlindoro_: | Then you're mapping the wrong key, likely |
| [15:36:04] | iamlindoro_: | config, rather |
| [15:36:39] | mjj29: | ? |
| [15:37:05] | iamlindoro_: | anyway, unless you have a compelling reason to use mplayer, you shouldn't... internal plays 905 of all things perfectly |
| [15:37:08] | iamlindoro_: | er 90% |
| [15:37:18] | mjj29: | iamlindoro_: it doesn't play all of the things I have |
| [15:37:23] | hnitsuj: | internal plays 100% of everything I have, perfectly |
| [15:37:27] | iamlindoro_: | such as? |
| [15:37:37] | hnitsuj: | mkv is for weevils |
| [15:37:45] | iamlindoro_: | and even that plays perfectly in .21 :) |
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| [15:38:18] | ** iamlindoro_ guesses whatever it is came in a series of numbered RARs ** | |
| [15:38:32] | mjj29: | (bear in mind this is 0.20) mkv, ogm, asf, mov, wmv, flv, |
| [15:38:44] | iamlindoro_: | upgrade to .21 |
| [15:38:54] | mjj29: | no debs yet \-: |
| [15:38:58] | directhex|work: | sure there are |
| [15:38:58] | iamlindoro_: | huh? |
| [15:39:01] | iamlindoro_: | yeshuh |
| [15:39:03] | directhex|work: | debs everywhere! |
| [15:39:16] | mjj29: | and please suggest a format other than mkv where I can have 3 audio tracks and 2 subtitle tracks and turn them on and off independently |
| [15:39:21] | mjj29: | oh? |
| [15:39:21] | iamlindoro_: | MP4 |
| [15:39:34] | directhex|work: | ogm |
| [15:39:36] | tank-man: | avi container can hold those too |
| [15:39:41] | iamlindoro_: | there, ya see? |
| [15:39:43] | directhex|work: | tank-man, not as per spec |
| [15:39:54] | ** hashbang was pleased to note that MythVideo played a couple of .avi.mp4s he downloaded from google video the other day ** | |
| [15:39:57] | tank-man: | i got some xvid i made with directors commentary |
| [15:39:58] | directhex|work: | tank-man, the avi spec only allows one audio and one video stream. anything else is a nonstandard hack |
| [15:40:10] | tank-man: | well, i made them with ffmpeg |
| [15:40:24] | mjj29: | where are 0.21 debs? |
| [15:40:35] | iamlindoro_: | in every repository from here to timbuktu |
| [15:40:36] | mjj29: | although, at the moment I'm using xbmc to play recorded media |
| [15:40:49] | mjj29: | 0.20.2.svn20080126–0.1 0 |
| [15:40:50] | mjj29: | 500 http://www.debian-multimedia.org lenny/main Packages |
| [15:40:52] | mjj29: | not that one (-: |
| [15:40:54] | tank-man: | with eng,spanish,ductch? subs |
| [15:41:02] | mjj29: | dutch |
| [15:41:21] | directhex|work: | bah, that bloody marillat |
| [15:41:23] | iamlindoro_: | Mythbuntu repos, Ubuntu backports, etc., etc. |
| [15:41:39] | directhex|work: | marillat's sid repo has 0.21 |
| [15:41:46] | iamlindoro_: | or you could get halfway fancy, suck it up and compile it yourself which even the braindead could do on debian |
| [15:41:58] | iamlindoro_: | build-dep FTW |
| [15:42:11] | directhex|work: | iamlindoro, grab the sid .dsc file, and dpkg-buildpackage it |
| [15:42:17] | iamlindoro_: | build-dep for any revision > 16590 = FAIL! |
| [15:42:20] | iamlindoro_: | hehe |
| [15:42:43] | iamlindoro_: | directhex|work, Preaching to the choir! |
| [15:42:53] | directhex|work: | http://debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/m/myth . . . 0.21-0.2.dsc |
| [15:43:18] | directhex|work: | dget -x http://debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/m/myth . . . 0.21-0.2.dsc && cd myth* && dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -rfakeroot |
| [15:43:28] | directhex|work: | fill in missing deps, re-run the buildpackage, install debs |
| [15:44:10] | psymin: | Hmm .. I wonder if its possible to buy ATI Remote Wonder devices anymore |
| [15:45:33] | iamlindoro_: | Maybe... but why? They're poorly supported and not that great remotewise |
| [15:46:00] | iamlindoro_: | Buy an MCE remote/receiver, a Snapstream Firefly, or build your own and use any remote |
| [15:46:52] | psymin: | Will they go through walls? |
| [15:46:59] | iamlindoro_: | the snapstream will |
| [15:47:03] | psymin: | ooo |
| [15:47:15] | iamlindoro_: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Snapstream_Firefly |
| [15:48:31] | psymin: | great thanks .. and since you seem to have vast knowledge .. can you recommend a mouse that has good wireless range? :) |
| [15:48:56] | mjj29: | aha, when I change it to sid from lenny, I get 0.21. Excellent |
| [15:49:00] | iamlindoro_: | TBH, I have one that gets about 15–20 feet but can't tell you for the life of me what the make is (am at work currently) |
| [15:49:21] | iamlindoro_: | My knowledge of that stuff is limited, I probably lucked out that I got one as decent as I did |
| [15:51:11] | directhex|work: | ps3 bt remote! |
| [15:51:21] | directhex|work: | no walls will hold it back! |
| [15:51:33] | mjj29: | so, which formats should be supported in .21? mkv/ogm obviously |
| [15:51:40] | mjj29: | wmv/asf/mov? |
| [15:52:40] | directhex|work: | anything supported in recent ffmpeg |
| [15:52:49] | iamlindoro_: | basically anything that was supported by libavcodec/ffmpeg as of revision 10931 (4 months ago) |
| [15:53:09] | iamlindoro_: | MOV yes, WMV/ASF I think |
| [15:53:14] | directhex|work: | iamlindoro_, he mentioned containers. that'd be libavformat, no? ;) |
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| [15:53:29] | iamlindoro_: | but I think I have one WMV file and can't remember for the life of me what I have set to play it |
| [15:53:47] | iamlindoro_: | directhex|work, Covered my bases with the slash-ffmpeg ;) |
| [15:53:57] | iamlindoro_: | as I've learned to do around here |
| [15:54:08] | mjj29: | I'm aware these are all containers, I'm assuming they are the normal codec as well |
| [15:54:09] | directhex|work: | wmv plays fine with ffmpeg |
| [15:54:14] | hnitsuj: | psymin: will TV go through walls too? |
| [15:54:17] | directhex|work: | given i use totem's gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg for them |
| [15:54:28] | mjj29: | I'm looking at the mythvideo file associations dialog here |
| [15:54:32] | psymin: | hnitsuj: Yep, with 35' HDMI cable run |
| [15:54:34] | hnitsuj: | never seen the point in RF remotes |
| [15:54:37] | iamlindoro_: | "But iamlindoro, you can do xyz with some obscure hardware hack only available to the knights templar!" |
| [15:54:44] | mjj29: | hnitsuj: LoS is annoying |
| [15:55:05] | hnitsuj: | mjj29: not when you're sitting in front of the TV it ain't :P |
| [15:55:10] | directhex|work: | iamlindoro_, those damned illuminati changesets |
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| [15:55:25] | hnitsuj: | and before anybody even starts, no I don't use mythtv for anything but TV |
| [15:55:26] | mjj29: | hnitsuj: still is, my reciever's a little tempermental about getting it exactly right |
| [15:55:28] | iamlindoro_: | directhex|work, They probably all have HD-PVRs already... |
| [15:55:58] | directhex|work: | iamlindoro_, the illuminati have a cablecard-supported mythtv build! that's how insidious they are! |
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| [15:56:19] | mjj29: | COCK |
| [15:56:20] | mjj29: | 2008-03–18 15:55:58.127 ERROR: This version of MythTV requires MySQL 5.0 or later. You seem to be running MySQL version 4.1.11-Debian_4sarge7-log. |
| [15:56:24] | mjj29: | wtf |
| [15:56:24] | hnitsuj: | mjj29: ouchy. mine works from just about anywhere in the livingroom so long as the sun isn't blazing in through the windows (no danger of that very often in manchester) |
| [15:56:41] | directhex|work: | sarge? |
| [15:56:46] | hnitsuj: | mjj29: oh yeah you need mysql 5.0 or greater :D |
| [15:56:48] | directhex|work: | christ, someone loves their ancient system |
| [15:56:48] | iamlindoro_: | directhex|work, mythfrontend.cpp @@ 0,0 UseCableCard = True; |
| [15:57:22] | mjj29: | directhex|work: etch, but upgraded from sarge |
| [15:57:28] | directhex|work: | sarge becomes completely unsupported on the monday after next |
| [15:57:39] | directhex|work: | mjj29, i thought you were using lenny packages for myth |
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| [15:57:49] | mjj29: | directhex|work: yeah, but the db is on a different machine |
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| [15:58:00] | iamlindoro_: | debian sidlenarge |
| [15:58:11] | directhex|work: | iamlindoro, sounds painful |
| [15:58:24] | iamlindoro_: | I think it's swedish for "broken." |
| [15:58:33] | mjj29: | I don't have any mixed machines |
| [15:58:37] | mjj29: | but I do have a lot of machines |
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| [16:05:29] | DustyBin: | Films, Stinkers (2 Stars or less) LOL |
| [16:05:53] | mjj29: | well, it plays them |
| [16:06:23] | DustyBin: | when you select a film to record |
| [16:06:29] | DustyBin: | there is no way to go back to the list |
| [16:06:34] | DustyBin: | Back to the programme listing <--- only this option |
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| [16:07:06] | mjj29: | can't get the subs showing though |
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| [16:07:29] | iamlindoro_: | embedded sub support only went into ffmpeg like five seconds ago |
| [16:07:39] | mjj29: | iamlindoro_: now you tell me (-: |
| [16:07:43] | mjj29: | that's the whole point of mkv |
| [16:08:14] | iamlindoro_: | I'm pretty sure the whole point of MKV is it's the container of choice for filthy YARRRRRRRR! Pirates |
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| [16:09:32] | hnitsuj: | pieces of mkv me hearties! Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr |
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| [16:10:04] | mjj29: | hauling round subs as separate files is stupid. mkv puts it all in one file = win |
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| [16:10:35] | hnitsuj: | but aharrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr tis the pirates |
| [16:10:38] | mjj29: | oh, nice, dvd root menu option crashes mythtv |
| [16:10:43] | iamlindoro_: | mkvextract to a .srt = win + works |
| [16:11:01] | iamlindoro_: | sounds like the .debs in your repos are .21 and not .21-fixes |
| [16:11:16] | hnitsuj: | mjj29: since been fixed & your packages are too old. meh |
| [16:11:34] | mjj29: | iamlindoro_: srt = separate file = lose |
| [16:11:52] | hnitsuj: | mkv == downloaded file == naughty! |
| [16:12:01] | iamlindoro_: | because an extra file steals your sheep and fucks your wife? |
| [16:12:13] | iamlindoro_: | or vice versa? |
| [16:12:16] | mjj29: | hnitsuj: no, encoded from DVD, actually |
| [16:12:30] | hnitsuj: | yeah yeah that's what they all say ;) |
| [16:12:40] | mjj29: | (-: |
| [16:12:43] | mjj29: | actually these are |
| [16:12:49] | mjj29: | not, you know, _my_ dvds |
| [16:13:02] | iamlindoro_: | hnitsuj, My fave trick when I hear that is to start asking real specific questions re codecs and bitrates and watch the whole house of cards come down |
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| [16:13:48] | hnitsuj: | heh. right time to go & hand the piece of crap hire car back. Never gonna drive a Corsa again if I can possibly help it |
| [16:14:14] | iamlindoro_: | "They're my blu-ray rips!" Yeah? What'd you rip them with? Was it AACS or BD+? What's the codec and bitrate of the video stream? Is the audio MLP? TrueHD? E-AC3? |
| [16:14:30] | iamlindoro_: | If so which patch did you apply to mplayer to play the audio streams? |
| [16:14:34] | iamlindoro_: | = FAIL |
| [16:14:57] | directhex|work: | hnitsuj, corsas are very popular! |
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| [16:21:42] | DustyBin: | why doesnt mythweb channel editor reflect what is shown on the frontend? |
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| [16:21:57] | DustyBin: | i deleted some channels on mythweb but they still appear as blanks on the frontend? |
| [16:22:04] | iamlindoro_: | DustyBin, restart your backend and frontend |
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| [16:22:10] | DustyBin: | aye ok |
| [16:22:20] | hobbynutte: | hi |
| [16:22:26] | hobbynutte: | how i can change the timeformat of mythweb |
| [16:22:56] | hobbynutte: | i want 24h format, but it displays since last svn update only 12h format (using .21 fixes) |
| [16:23:13] | hobbynutte: | all frontends displaying right format |
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| [16:23:24] | hobbynutte: | thx 4 any hints |
| [16:23:28] | DustyBin: | iamlindoro_: perfek :D |
| [16:23:35] | iamlindoro_: | DustyBin, np ;) |
| [16:24:10] | DustyBin: | ive turned off EIT, now using a grabber for TV, my backend is set to restart once per morning 8am, hopefully i can now enjoy a more stable mythtv experience :D |
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| [16:29:24] | Fnc-1: | morning all, Im in the process of finishing up my raid machine, if i want to automatically say move my recordings from my backend to my raid say once a week or so, but still keep the shows in the database whats the best way to do this? mytharchive doesnt seem to do this.. unless im missing something? |
| [16:29:59] | Justin__: | is there something like test-mpeg2 for broadcast connections (vs p2p). I'm trying to scan for channels with 5C flag, but its useless when half the channels I know I receive are failing because i have a crappy p2p connection and need to use broadcast |
| [16:30:31] | iamlindoro_: | Justin__, channels don't have 5C, individual programs do |
| [16:30:38] | iamlindoro_: | and there's no way to scan for it |
| [16:31:19] | Justin__: | fair enough, but is there anything like test-mpeg2 but for broadcast? |
| [16:31:24] | iamlindoro_: | you sorta have ot feel it out and discover which channels are "mostly 5C'ed" and either not use them or delete them from the source |
| [16:31:40] | iamlindoro_: | Justin__, Nope, will need to use myth |
| [16:31:57] | Justin__: | ok, thanks |
| [16:32:05] | iamlindoro_: | easiest way not to have to restart the backend is to start a recording one channel at a time in mythweb, wait 20–30 seconds, and switch to recorded programs |
| [16:32:26] | iamlindoro_: | if the file is still 0 size, it's probably not gonna be a good channel. you can cancel the recording and move on the the next. |
| [16:32:36] | Justin__: | Fnc-1: you could set up a cronjob and leave symbolic links to the files on your raid |
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| [16:37:50] | Justin__: | iamlindoro_, I've just been dreading doing that by hand. I have like 400 channels. I found this script which works very nice and fast, but you need a good p2p connection since it uses test-mpeg2: http://www.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/ . . . /116745.html |
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| [16:39:08] | iamlindoro_: | I have the same number, but since I have practically no 5C I'm in good shape ;) |
| [16:39:56] | Justin__: | man, i hate comcast |
| [16:40:12] | directhex|work: | iamlindoro_ uses comcast iirc |
| [16:40:35] | iamlindoro_: | yep |
| [16:40:45] | Justin__: | really? what region? |
| [16:40:55] | directhex|work: | a better one than you! |
| [16:40:55] | iamlindoro_: | SF Bay Area |
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| [16:41:12] | iamlindoro_: | almost all the cities in the Bay have open firewire and probably 95% of the channels in the clear |
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| [16:41:39] | Justin__: | yeah im on the other coast |
| [16:42:03] | iamlindoro_: | But Commiecast is a franchise, and leaves a lot up to their headend engineers, too, so it's going to be different every single headend, let alone city |
| [16:42:17] | Justin__: | only about 50 of 450+ channels are clearqam, and all the premiums are 5c |
| [16:42:56] | Justin__: | and to think im in philadelphia, which is supposed to be their headquarters |
| [16:43:08] | iamlindoro_: | That's not *too* terrible, I think I get about 50–60 in QAM, and the only channel that's consistently 5C for me is HBO HD-- well, and CBS, but I get that via QAM so no big deal |
| [16:43:18] | iamlindoro_: | Denver is their HQ |
| [16:43:25] | iamlindoro_: | Denver is Cable Mecca |
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| [16:44:22] | iamlindoro_: | Though I beleive their corporate is in Philly |
| [16:44:47] | ** directhex|work throws a cheesesteak at iamlindoro_ ** | |
| [16:45:07] | ** iamlindoro_ 's flesh sizzles under molten cheese ** | |
| [16:45:17] | Justin__: | yeah they just built a 57-story HQ building in philly |
| [16:45:30] | Justin__: | just opened a month or so ago |
| [16:46:07] | Justin__: | tallest building in the city, and its a bloddy comcast landmark |
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| [16:48:00] | iamlindoro_: | Ah well, HD-PVRs all around this summer and everyone can get happy-happy longtime HD love on every channel |
| [16:48:22] | Justin__: | i cant get an hd-pvr |
| [16:48:29] | iamlindoro_: | Why? |
| [16:48:43] | Justin__: | my dad works for comcast, so its a comp account |
| [16:48:49] | iamlindoro_: | So? |
| [16:48:50] | Justin__: | and they only allow one pvr on comp accounts |
| [16:49:03] | iamlindoro_: | HD-PVR = Hauppauge Component HD capture device |
| [16:49:08] | Justin__: | ahh |
| [16:49:30] | iamlindoro_: | "Justin__> man, i hate comcast" |
| [16:49:32] | Justin__: | i probably wouldn't even be messing with mythtv if they just let me get a normal crappy dvr |
| [16:49:34] | iamlindoro_: | I'm tellin yer pappy |
| [16:49:50] | Justin__: | im pretty sure he shares the feeling |
| [16:49:55] | iamlindoro_: | Heh |
| [16:50:35] | Justin__: | well the hd-pvr is going to be what, $250+ |
| [16:50:44] | iamlindoro_: | =$250 |
| [16:50:58] | Justin__: | not to mention your going from digital->analog->digital |
| [16:51:01] | Justin__: | which i hate |
| [16:51:02] | hobbynutte: | the 12h format sucks major :( nobody knows how to set mythweb 24h format ? |
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| [16:51:29] | iamlindoro_: | The quality loss is totally insubstantial-- we've seems samples, the quality loss is minimal is not invisible |
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| [16:51:35] | iamlindoro_: | er we've seen |
| [16:51:45] | iamlindoro_: | minimal if not |
| [16:52:21] | Justin__: | well i couldn't be more nitpicky... just KNOWING there was an analog conversion in there will keep me up at night :) |
| [16:53:26] | iamlindoro_: | Then you should be more concerned about the shite codec and bitrates Comcast/US Cable uses |
| [16:53:40] | Justin__: | oh trust me i know |
| [16:53:54] | directhex|work: | who wants some h264? anyone? got a big heap o' spare h264 here |
| [16:54:10] | iamlindoro_: | directhex|work, Say, did you ever get my links to those samples, btw |
| [16:54:33] | directhex|work: | iamlindoro_, yes. significantly less cpu hungry than bbchd. go figure |
| [16:54:47] | iamlindoro_: | directhex|bsp, I figured, dd'ed from the front of the file so too much black |
| [16:54:48] | Justin__: | i once A/Bed harry potter on hd on demand vs hd dvd |
| [16:54:54] | directhex|work: | looks like PAFF or MBAFF or whatever it is eats processors |
| [16:54:58] | Justin__: | on demand is so pitiful |
| [16:55:08] | iamlindoro_: | when I get around to it I'll cut it from a motion scene closer to true 40 Mbit |
| [16:55:34] | directhex|work: | iamlindoro, even the spinning gears didn't seem to make much impact on the CPU |
| [16:55:48] | iamlindoro_: | directhex|bsp, Am curious about some of the fight scenes |
| [16:56:08] | iamlindoro_: | I don't think that topped out over 24–27 |
| [16:56:43] | Justin__: | i think i got around my crappy p2p connection by modifying this script to test each channel 3 times. since i have about a 33% success rate, it should be pretty close |
| [16:57:08] | directhex|work: | iamlindoro_, i really mean it barely phased the CPU at all 20–30% tops. |
| [16:57:13] | Justin__: | but so far, 100% of my channels over 300 are blocked |
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| [17:04:08] | Frosty-: | autoexpire will only begin to expire scheduled recordings when space has run out, or will it begin after x number of days anyway |
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| [17:04:46] | iamlindoro_: | directhex|work, I still think it had to do with the scene complexity-- But hey, i have no problem with it working well :) |
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| [17:07:59] | Frosty-: | wow scan is awesome, free next day delivery, even texts my mobile to let me know it was despatched |
| [17:08:43] | Frosty-: | if 2x nova-t demonstrate the same problems as the nova-t 500 im going to throw it out the window |
| [17:10:00] | ** psymin waits outside Frosty-'s window. ** | |
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| [17:14:55] | Aval0n: | arrg |
| [17:14:58] | Aval0n: | I don't get it |
| [17:15:09] | Aval0n: | i don't get icons for my scheduled programs in mythweb anymore |
| [17:15:12] | Aval0n: | and no flash player |
| [17:15:18] | Aval0n: | but they play on the frontend just fine |
| [17:15:25] | Aval0n: | anyone know what could caus that |
| [17:15:28] | Aval0n: | ? |
| [17:16:33] | xris: | icons for scheduled programs? |
| [17:16:43] | Aval0n: | i'm sorry |
| [17:16:45] | Aval0n: | recorded |
| [17:16:51] | xris: | flash player is off by default. you have to read the warning to turn it on (settings) |
| [17:16:56] | Aval0n: | it is on |
| [17:17:06] | Aval0n: | half the recordings.. the ones that show icons play with flash player |
| [17:17:10] | Aval0n: | the other half show no icon |
| [17:17:13] | Aval0n: | and no flash player |
| [17:17:32] | xris: | sounds like a corrupt/offline storage group or something like that |
| [17:18:44] | Aval0n: | hmm |
| [17:18:48] | Aval0n: | but they play in mythfrontend just fine |
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| [17:20:22] | Aval0n: | all my recordings are on the same drive |
| [17:20:42] | Aval0n: | BE,FE, and recordings all at the same |
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| [17:21:46] | Aval0n: | is there a way to do some sort of rescan with mythweb? |
| [17:22:10] | xris: | no, all of that info comes straight from the backend |
| [17:23:16] | Aval0n: | so why would have of my recordings get fubared |
| [17:23:36] | Aval0n: | this has happened ever since I ran svn after .20.2 |
| [17:23:42] | Aval0n: | running the fixes branch now |
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| [17:23:50] | Aval0n: | .21-fixes |
| [17:25:39] | psymin: | hopefully I'll have a snapstream firefly soon .. yay! |
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| [17:26:36] | Aval0n: | no ideas eh xris? |
| [17:27:28] | Frosty-: | digi-aerial guys ocming out tomorrow |
| [17:27:33] | Frosty-: | oo exciting |
| [17:28:12] | [g2]: | anyone have the IR Blaster part of the Hauppauge PVR-150 working ? |
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| [17:30:11] | xris: | psymin: the remote? |
| [17:30:25] | xris: | Aval0n: sorry. the only reason mythweb wouldn't have that info is if the backend isn't sending it. |
| [17:30:39] | Aval0n: | hmm |
| [17:30:52] | Aval0n: | no idea why the backened wouldn't send it eh? |
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| [17:31:21] | xris: | nope |
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| [17:35:37] | iamlindoro_: | GSoC may churn out some neat improvements with x264 and ffmpeg |
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| [17:37:08] | xris: | cool |
| [17:38:03] | iamlindoro_: | yeah, looks like finishing off one of the Hd audio formats is a qualification task that two people are tackling, and the other is one of the projects-- and the TS demuxer has had some serious improvements in the last few days allowing for proper parsing of BR material |
| [17:38:51] | iamlindoro_: | all in all, end of the summer might see honest-to-goodness playback/transcodability of the material. Would be great to not have to patch for it/be limited to two channels with certain formats |
| [17:39:55] | iamlindoro_: | also, someone is finishing off the TS muxer, so that could be neat |
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| [17:43:18] | Fnc-1: | speaking of x264, any thoughts on hardware to play it... i seem to have problems no matter what |
| [17:43:35] | iamlindoro_: | directhex|work, would you do the honors? |
| [17:43:46] | iamlindoro_: | or hnitsuj, I'm not picky |
| [17:44:17] | iamlindoro_: | ok, I'll do it |
| [17:44:18] | iamlindoro_: | ahem |
| [17:44:21] | iamlindoro_: | MOAR MHZ |
| [17:44:43] | iamlindoro_: | btw, x264 is an encoder, *h.264* is a codec |
| [17:45:16] | Fnc-1: | eh ya know what i ment ;) |
| [17:45:50] | Fnc-1: | so whats a good mhz? |
| [17:46:09] | Fnc-1: | is dual core good, does anything thead to 4 cores? |
| [17:46:12] | iamlindoro_: | For my money, a C2D E4500 @ 2.2 Ghz or better |
| [17:47:00] | iamlindoro_: | There is no need for four cores for *any* h.264 playback-- the highest bitrate available (40 Mbit) will easily play without maxing out 2 cores on that machine or better |
| [17:47:32] | Fnc-1: | i havent kept up with cpus in a great many years.. not sure what c2d actually is.. but i know my core 2 6600 2.4 is still way choppy |
| [17:47:45] | iamlindoro_: | Fnc-1, You are doing something very very wrong then :) |
| [17:48:15] | iamlindoro_: | mplayer -lavdopts threads=2:fast:skiploopfilter=all myfile.ext |
| [17:48:17] | iamlindoro_: | try that |
| [17:48:21] | Fnc-1: | so i would have thought, but i've tried everything i could think of... even a bunch of long ass lines like that one |
| [17:48:24] | Fnc-1: | one sec |
| [17:48:40] | iamlindoro_: | Fnc-1, I can play *anything* on my Q6600 |
| [17:48:54] | iamlindoro_: | including max spec bitrate h.264 at 1080p |
| [17:49:32] | iamlindoro_: | also, presumably you're using a proper GPU and driver |
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| [17:51:22] | Fnc-1: | what is a proper GPU? |
| [17:51:36] | iamlindoro_: | anything nVidia w/ proprietary drivers would be a good start |
| [17:52:02] | iamlindoro_: | NOT anything ATI |
| [17:52:02] | Fnc-1: | got a 7800 |
| [17:52:02] | iamlindoro_: | More than adequate |
| [17:52:26] | Fnc-1: | your right... |
| [17:52:27] | iamlindoro_: | That processor makes *mincemeat* out of any video I throw at it, including that which I ripped directly from Blu-ray and HD-DVD movies, without compalint |
| [17:52:31] | iamlindoro_: | complaint |
| [17:52:39] | Fnc-1: | even though the line you gave me looked familiar... |
| [17:52:50] | Fnc-1: | so far the file is playing quite well |
| [17:53:02] | Fnc-1: | thx |
| [17:53:04] | iamlindoro_: | Hey, I'm not making this stuff up after all ;) |
| [17:53:12] | iamlindoro_: | Fnc-1, for even more security, add -sws 0 |
| [17:53:15] | Fnc-1: | never said you werew |
| [17:53:21] | Fnc-1: | that ive seen also |
| [17:53:22] | iamlindoro_: | I know, just teasing |
| [17:54:22] | Fnc-1: | dont know what i messed up before.. but i was like damm.. what the hell does the file need to play |
| [17:54:40] | iamlindoro_: | Only the right options, your expensive shit is more than expensive enough ;) |
| [17:55:16] | Fnc-1: | like i said its my work machine.. it has more inportant tasks ;) |
| [17:55:38] | iamlindoro_: | like porn! |
| [17:55:41] | Fnc-1: | yeah for the longest time i was getting the Your sustem is too SLOW to play this.. i was like wtf |
| [17:56:02] | Fnc-1: | naw... just lots of cruching on files and stuff |
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| [17:57:57] | Fnc-1: | so what does the sws 0 do? |
| [17:58:59] | iamlindoro_: | sets the scaler to fast bilinear, which is the fastest |
| [17:59:36] | iamlindoro_: | in a perfect world you're playing the material at it's native resolution so you pick up a bit of speed that way |
| [17:59:52] | Fnc-1: | i see |
| [18:00:37] | iamlindoro_: | mythtv is getting dangerously close to being able to play most if not all of thsi stuff internally with a combination of the right patches and settings... I would expect that by .22, if the next ffmpeg sync happens at the right time, I can drop mplayer entirely |
| [18:02:45] | Fnc-1: | cool |
| [18:03:19] | Fnc-1: | you anygood with scripting? if i dump that in a file, and chmod it, how do i pass the file name i want to play |
| [18:03:35] | iamlindoro_: | %1 |
| [18:03:38] | iamlindoro_: | er $1 |
| [18:03:48] | iamlindoro_: | would be the first argument, $2 would be the second, etc. |
| [18:04:02] | iamlindoro_: | ie myscript.sh thisfile.avi |
| [18:04:23] | Fnc-1: | cool |
| [18:05:17] | Fnc-1: | #!/bin/bash |
| [18:05:27] | Fnc-1: | mplayer -lavdopts threads=2:fast:skiploopfilter=all -sws 0 $1 |
| [18:05:34] | Fnc-1: | thx for the help |
| [18:05:38] | iamlindoro_: | no problem |
| [18:07:11] | Fnc-1: | have you tried streaming any say hd/bluray rips.. im assuming there wont be any issues there |
| [18:08:00] | Fnc-1: | ..ie playing from a backend of fileserver |
| [18:08:01] | hnitsuj: | I tried steaming a rip once. it just fell apart |
| [18:08:41] | Fnc-1: | to a frontend on the local network |
| [18:08:47] | iamlindoro_: | Fnc-1, I stream all of mine from another machine-- assuming adequate network performance, no issues at all |
| [18:08:55] | Fnc-1: | cool |
| [18:09:03] | Fnc-1: | im just finishing up my raid box.. |
| [18:09:10] | Fnc-1: | waiting for a few more cables to show up |
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| [18:09:20] | hnitsuj: | directhex|work: it may very well be the case that corsas are very popular. it doesn't change the fact they're junk |
| [18:10:22] | hnitsuj: | squeaky interior, squeaky fan/blower thingy, crap stereo, piss-poor fuel economy, bugger all visibility for parking... |
| [18:11:05] | hnitsuj: | I like my windscreen to be clean, so I found out about the rubbish washer reservoir capacity too :) |
| [18:11:31] | hnitsuj: | also, no gas strut on the bonnet. unacceptable |
| [18:11:42] | hnitsuj: | comfy seats though, I'll give em that |
| [18:13:34] | jduggan_: | gas strut? |
| [18:13:39] | hnitsuj: | maybe I just expect more from a car which costs as much as it does new |
| [18:13:45] | iamlindoro_: | for midair refueling |
| [18:14:16] | hnitsuj: | jduggan_: yeah, a hydraulic doozy to keep the bonnet up, saving you the hassle of fiddling with a pissy little rod while holding up the bonnet |
| [18:14:19] | iamlindoro_: | My guess is that's a hydraulic hood opener-holder |
| [18:14:23] | iamlindoro_: | yesss |
| [18:14:29] | jduggan_: | ah |
| [18:14:32] | jduggan_: | yea |
| [18:14:39] | jduggan_: | my vectra has such a thing |
| [18:14:44] | jduggan_: | surprised corsa doesnt |
| [18:14:45] | hnitsuj: | prolly costs £5 |
| [18:14:47] | Anduin: | The ones that always fail so you get to improvise/use your head. |
| [18:14:54] | jduggan_: | lol Anduin |
| [18:15:09] | hnitsuj: | heh. never had that on my last car, but I can imagine it being bad |
| [18:15:30] | hnitsuj: | still, saves you the trouble of doing what you opened the bonnet to do in the 1st place eh ;) |
| [18:15:49] | Fnc-1: | as long as im thinking about hardware.. anyone have an idea what the best vidcard/price point is right now? |
| [18:16:28] | iamlindoro_: | for Myth purposes, probably a nvidia <= 7000 series |
| [18:16:49] | iamlindoro_: | 5200s are cheaaaaaap but on the chopping block, all my systems are 7000 series |
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| [18:17:36] | iamlindoro_: | And since the performance you will get in myth with a 5200 is the same as a 9600, might as well save a few bucks |
| [18:18:04] | Fnc-1: | i have 3 5200 right now |
| [18:18:15] | iamlindoro_: | Those'll be fine |
| [18:18:18] | Fnc-1: | should those be good enough to play hd/bluray stuff |
| [18:18:25] | iamlindoro_: | assuming not PCI bus, yes |
| [18:18:32] | Fnc-1: | agp i think |
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| [18:19:08] | iamlindoro_: | hmmmmm |
| [18:19:17] | iamlindoro_: | That may be too slow a bus, come to think of it |
| [18:19:40] | iamlindoro_: | But I'm not sure, have never used it |
| [18:19:47] | iamlindoro_: | well, not for myth/HD |
| [18:20:00] | Fnc-1: | it plays my hd recordings just find |
| [18:20:05] | Fnc-1: | er fine... |
| [18:20:17] | Fnc-1: | just havent tried any bluor hd rips yet |
| [18:20:24] | iamlindoro_: | Right, higher bandwidth |
| [18:20:45] | iamlindoro_: | anyway, just don't have a conclusive answer for you. PCIe is certainly enough, I can say that much |
| [18:21:13] | Fnc-1: | got cha |
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| [18:21:34] | Fnc-1: | been thinking about a new front end... so wanted to get some input |
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| [18:21:57] | iamlindoro_: | Well, if you're playing "real" Hd on it you will probably get a MoBo that doesn't support AGP anyway :) |
| [18:22:10] | Fnc-1: | yeah nowadays... |
| [18:22:20] | Fnc-1: | ;) |
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| [18:29:18] | Aval0n: | iamlindoro_: there? |
| [18:29:26] | iamlindoro_: | yep |
| [18:29:32] | Aval0n: | hey man |
| [18:29:37] | iamlindoro_: | hola |
| [18:29:55] | Aval0n: | i keep getting all sorts of recordings that have no icons.... and no flash player |
| [18:30:06] | Aval0n: | but they all show up and play in mythweb |
| [18:30:11] | iamlindoro_: | Yeah, I was reading when you talked to xris, but he really is the expert |
| [18:30:16] | Aval0n: | i thought before maybe it was just a fluke |
| [18:30:18] | Aval0n: | oh |
| [18:30:30] | iamlindoro_: | Knows vastly more than I do about it as it is his baby |
| [18:30:35] | Aval0n: | well he says it just takes what the backend reports |
| [18:30:43] | Aval0n: | so he says it's not even a function of mythweb |
| [18:30:53] | iamlindoro_: | My one guess would be a permissions issue wrt the mythweb data directories |
| [18:31:11] | Aval0n: | hmm |
| [18:31:26] | Aval0n: | it complains about that if it can't write though |
| [18:31:35] | Aval0n: | you wont even get a mythweb interface |
| [18:31:53] | iamlindoro_: | Not if the issue were with the cache dir |
| [18:32:34] | iamlindoro_: | I'd be interested in the contents and the filesizes of the mythweb/data/cache dir |
| [18:32:51] | Aval0n: | good idea |
| [18:32:53] | Aval0n: | let me look ;_) |
| [18:33:20] | Aval0n: | drwxr-xr-x 2 www-data www-data 20480 2008-03–18 11:32 cache |
| [18:33:24] | Aval0n: | looks good\ |
| [18:34:01] | iamlindoro_: | yep, looks normal |
| [18:34:04] | xris: | yeah, the flags like hd/watched/etc come straight from the backend, though |
| [18:34:14] | xris: | Aval0n: question.. are the flags gone, or just the images? |
| [18:34:21] | xris: | i.e. is there a broken image in the html? |
| [18:34:54] | Aval0n: | i opened it up and sent you a link in PM |
| [18:36:28] | Aval0n: | some of the recordins have the screencap, you click them and get the flash player no problem. Flash player will play it great |
| [18:36:34] | Aval0n: | so programs have the screencap but no flash player |
| [18:36:37] | Aval0n: | then some have neither |
| [18:36:52] | Aval0n: | although ALL the recordings with the missing screencap have no flash player |
| [18:37:03] | Aval0n: | and all of these recordings show and play fine in the FE |
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| [18:40:27] | Aval0n: | xris: are you gonna have a look at it? |
| [18:40:41] | Aval0n: | or were you just waiting for me to answer your question :P |
| [18:40:54] | Aval0n: | yes there are broken images |
| [18:40:58] | xris: | Aval0n: sorry, busy with work stuff |
| [18:41:03] | Aval0n: | black box with a small red X in upper left |
| [18:41:06] | Aval0n: | I completely understand |
| [18:41:10] | xris: | try to load JUST that image |
| [18:41:48] | Aval0n: | doesn't work |
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| [19:03:38] | jgb: | can mythtv show (from IMDB or someplace else) information on video files that wasn't ripped by mythtv? |
| [19:03:58] | iamlindoro_: | yup, myth can search IMDB for any file in MythVideo |
| [19:04:13] | iamlindoro_: | presuming the file is named the movie name, it's pretty successful, too |
| [19:04:27] | directhex: | it sucks for non-movies though |
| [19:04:52] | jgb: | like series? |
| [19:04:59] | iamlindoro_: | That's where my rageTV wrapper/length generator/thumbnail script comes in :) |
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| [19:05:19] | iamlindoro_: | For which I offer exactly no support, ever. |
| [19:05:48] | Fnc-1: | hmpf |
| [19:05:59] | jgb: | where do I get that? |
| [19:06:01] | Fnc-1: | where is this script? where does it pull infor from? |
| [19:06:05] | mkrufky: | is anybody working on altering the Sage HDTV media extender to interface with myth ? |
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| [19:07:16] | iamlindoro_: | http://www.mythtvtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7077 |
| [19:07:46] | iamlindoro_: | And seriously, ALL the support I will give is in that post. Do *not* ask me questions about it, I wrote it for me and make it available, but that's as far as it goes |
| [19:07:49] | jgb: | thanks |
| [19:08:27] | iamlindoro_: | Nor should you ask anyone else for help with it, lest I withdraw it and not share it any more. You are *on your own* if you intend to use it, so use your reading and problem solving skills! |
| [19:08:58] | mkrufky: | heh... ive been looking for something like that, iamlindoro ... i guess i know who NOT to ask about it |
| [19:09:15] | iamlindoro_: | mkrufky, Well... you I might help... if I got the right package in the mail |
| [19:09:15] | iamlindoro_: | ;) |
| [19:09:33] | mkrufky: | :-X3 |
| [19:10:10] | mkrufky: | im sure $249.99 could cause such a package to arrive |
| [19:10:19] | jgb: | hmmm, what do I do to get another x running, so I can run mythtv as well as xfce? |
| [19:10:20] | mkrufky: | ....but i couldnt say when |
| [19:10:26] | iamlindoro_: | You tell me the address and WHEN and you've got a deal |
| [19:10:50] | mkrufky: | i'll worry about getting one in my own livingroom, first ;-) |
| [19:10:57] | ** iamlindoro_ sends note to all DVR sites: CONFIRMED! HD-PVR $249.99! ** | |
| [19:11:00] | iamlindoro_: | ;) |
| [19:11:24] | mkrufky: | oh, gimme a break |
| [19:11:26] | iamlindoro_: | hahaa |
| [19:11:32] | mkrufky: | im a programmer, what do i know about retail? |
| [19:11:40] | mkrufky: | the price was only mentioned in the press release |
| [19:12:00] | iamlindoro_: | I'm sure there are any number of nuts who'd get off on the exact dollars and cents |
| [19:12:11] | mkrufky: | i made up the .99 |
| [19:12:16] | iamlindoro_: | Confirmed! HD-PVR product number is HDPVR12345!!! |
| [19:12:24] | Thomas-: | nice script iamlindoro_, I have something similar I wrote |
| [19:12:26] | mkrufky: | for all i know, maybe it's selling for 249.98 |
| [19:12:43] | mkrufky: | haha i know the product number, but that doesnt matter |
| [19:13:02] | iamlindoro_: | mkrufky, Yeah, but *some* freakshow out there would be all over it |
| [19:13:56] | mkrufky: | hehe |
| [19:14:13] | iamlindoro_: | OH, and one caveat to the script is that you must have a password for your SQL server and that can't be blank. If you don't have a password for your SQL server, PM me your address and I'll come over and bludgeon you to death with a hammer. |
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| [19:14:40] | Thomas-: | pfff |
| [19:15:21] | ** directhex is going to... eat a donut! and... do some washing up! ** | |
| [19:15:40] | iamlindoro_: | directhex, read a book! Talk to a member of the opposite sex! |
| [19:15:56] | iamlindoro_: | directhex, Still can't find the transcript of those credits, and spent a fair amount of energy looking for it, durnit |
| [19:16:04] | sentinel23: | anyone here on Shaw or a similar Canadian provider? |
| [19:18:38] | directhex: | iamlindoro, looks like MI2 to me. http://turnoffyourcomputer.ytmnd.com/ |
| [19:19:01] | iamlindoro_: | directhex, YAY! |
| [19:19:05] | iamlindoro_: | BEST EVAR! |
| [19:19:23] | iamlindoro_: | Run for president! |
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| [19:20:15] | directhex: | iamlindoro, sorry, it's beaten by http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AawQvD8L_h4&feature=related |
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| [19:20:45] | iamlindoro_: | WRONG, because NOTHING in MI3 beats anything in any previous MI |
| [19:21:07] | directhex: | MI4 is the offensive one. MI3 was good |
| [19:21:28] | iamlindoro_: | MI# < MI# – 1 |
| [19:21:35] | Aval0n: | mi4 was offensive? |
| [19:22:24] | directhex: | absolutely |
| [19:22:33] | directhex: | MI should not use the GRIME engine |
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| [19:22:35] | directhex: | it didn't work |
| [19:22:48] | ** iamlindoro_ looks at his Monkey Island formula and nods approvingly ** | |
| [19:23:16] | directhex: | iamlindoro_, you preferred 1 to 2, even though it's 2's credits you approve of? |
| [19:23:30] | iamlindoro_: | Affirmative, for the happy tween memories |
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| [19:25:30] | ** iamlindoro_ goes home sick ** | |
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| [19:26:37] | slotbumwaller: | building my first front/backend myth box and using a p1-ah2 case. Looking for good suggestions for a low profile pci HD tuner. Would do a Homerun, but no wires to the TV area. Thanks. |
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| [19:40:48] | iamlindoro__: | The HD 5500 is Low profile |
| [19:43:16] | slotbumwaller: | iamlindoro_ – Thanks. I looked at that. They're a bit pricey new. Hard to find used, so I was looking for other options. Thoughts? |
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| [19:44:09] | iamlindoro__: | Low profile is going to be pricier than other options, no two ways about it |
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| [19:44:24] | iamlindoro__: | You can have small, cheap, and good. Pick any two. |
| [19:44:40] | ** Frosty- strokes iamlindoro ** | |
| [19:44:55] | ** iamlindoro__ purrs contentedly ** | |
| [19:45:01] | BobSlob: | anyone here using a pvr150 with basic cable? |
| [19:45:20] | [g2]: | BobSlob: I've got a pvr150 |
| [19:45:30] | [g2]: | and a 500 |
| [19:45:30] | jduggan: | im using a pvr150 with UK cable |
| [19:45:32] | slotbumwaller: | hate being a grad student |
| [19:45:34] | BobSlob: | you find the video quality horrid? |
| [19:45:53] | jduggan: | nope – pretty flawless |
| [19:45:58] | BobSlob: | like, hooking up the cable directly to the tv is 100x better |
| [19:46:03] | [g2]: | BobSlob: same here, but I've only used it a little |
| [19:46:10] | [g2]: | the pvr500 rocks too |
| [19:46:30] | ** [g2] wonders about your signal ** | |
| [19:46:46] | hnitsuj: | oh dear $deity. professor cyborg has been at it again |
| [19:46:50] | jduggan: | ive unnoticeable loss of quality by going via a pvr150 |
| [19:46:53] | iamlindoro__: | sucks is largely subjective, but any analog tuner is going to be shittier than plugging into your TV |
| [19:47:24] | [g2]: | BobSlob: NTSC ? PAL ? |
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| [19:47:24] | hnitsuj: | my pvr150 looked gash til I tweaked the recording profiles & kyboshed the temporal DNR |
| [19:47:34] | BobSlob: | [g2]: nstc |
| [19:47:47] | hnitsuj: | but then, I wasn't using its tuner. tv card tuners are shite |
| [19:48:26] | [g2]: | hnitsuj: is there some info about fine tuning somewhere on a handy URL ? |
| [19:48:45] | ** [g2] wonders if anyone is using the IR Blaster on the pvr150 ** | |
| [19:48:55] | [g2]: | that's what I'm trying to get fully working |
| [19:49:54] | iamlindoro__: | shoulda spent the extra $10 on the MCE ;) |
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| [19:50:09] | BobSlob: | i'm also gettin wavy lines, likes there interference somewhere... yet again, nothing when hooked directly to tv |
| [19:50:24] | iamlindoro__: | Not that the other is impossible, just really inferior |
| [19:50:37] | hnitsuj: | fine tuning? seldom the real problem. more that inside a PC is the last place anybody should put a sensitive piece of RF circuitry. more that cable providers don't seem to care much about the quality of analogue RF feeds. more that ground loops can cause untold RF nasties |
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| [19:51:05] | jgb: | where do I tell mythtv to "Search IMDB" after updating the imdb.pl script? |
| [19:51:08] | hnitsuj: | poor quality PC PSUs are a contributor too |
| [19:51:20] | hnitsuj: | jgb: same place as always. the video manager |
| [19:51:32] | iamlindoro__: | you probably ought to know one before fiddling with the other |
| [19:51:56] | iamlindoro__: | "Hey guys, I hacked the kitchen sink into the myth source code! How do I start the frontend?" |
| [19:52:18] | jgb: | lol |
| [19:52:43] | BobSlob: | is there pvr150 "settings" that i'm missing or something? |
| [19:52:54] | BobSlob: | or am i basically stuck? |
| [19:53:14] | jgb: | hnitsuj : the video manager shows a list of video files, and a SELECT: Edit option. where to from there? |
| [19:53:30] | hnitsuj: | edit? info more like |
| [19:53:32] | hnitsuj: | INFO key |
| [19:54:13] | jgb: | ah, do I have to do it manually for every file? |
| [19:54:35] | hnitsuj: | aye |
| [19:54:40] | hnitsuj: | lest you use a script |
| [19:54:51] | jgb: | ah, care to suggest one? |
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| [19:56:13] | iamlindoro__: | Maybe you should read the threads you get linked to ;) |
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| [19:56:47] | jgb: | will do, thought yours was for series etc. |
| [19:56:58] | iamlindoro__: | Read the *thread* |
| [19:57:08] | jgb: | kk |
| [20:04:24] | jgb: | iamlindoro: the link to your script lands me on an empty page |
| [20:05:12] | iamlindoro__: | Not from here. |
| [20:08:13] | jgb: | hmmm, I'm running FF 3 |
| [20:09:14] | iamlindoro__: | *beta* |
| [20:09:38] | jgb: | yep |
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| [20:09:41] | jgb: | :( |
| [20:09:56] | wild_oscar: | so, now on the right channel... |
| [20:09:58] | iamlindoro__: | http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.feedba . . . c5ee95683f09 |
| [20:10:09] | wild_oscar: | I had an issue with my pc that I just seem to have solved and is related to mythv |
| [20:10:32] | wild_oscar: | I had constant disk activity on my drive (hdd led blinking all the time) |
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| [20:10:49] | wild_oscar: | it stopped when I stopped mythtv backend, so I was wondering why this happened |
| [20:11:10] | iamlindoro__: | backend logs will tell you, if it is indeed a Myth issue |
| [20:11:20] | iamlindoro__: | my 1st guess would be you left live TV running |
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| [20:12:31] | wild_oscar: | I didn't even open mythtv |
| [20:12:41] | wild_oscar: | the blinking starts at boot up |
| [20:12:58] | iamlindoro__: | So did you check the backend logs yet? |
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| [20:13:15] | wild_oscar: | checking them |
| [20:13:15] | iamlindoro__: | If the backend is doing anything, it'll be there, and it'll be timestamped |
| [20:13:55] | wild_oscar: | yup |
| [20:14:00] | wild_oscar: | access denied to the database |
| [20:14:18] | iamlindoro__: | Then you don't have a working myth install at all |
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| [20:14:24] | wild_oscar: | so it must have started some days ago when ubuntu upgraded mysql |
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| [20:14:41] | wild_oscar: | I had, but haven't used it in a while |
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| [20:15:00] | iamlindoro__: | *don't* run updates on working myth machines and expect them to keep working unmolested, BTW |
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| [20:15:47] | iamlindoro__: | So fix your backend/DB access and your problem will likely right itself |
| [20:15:54] | PatrickDK: | hmm, molesting mythtv |
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| [20:16:24] | hnitsuj: | you know, people say mythtv's ui sucks... http://digital-lifestyles.info/copy_images/sky-plus-epg-lg.jpg |
| [20:16:43] | iamlindoro__: | Hey, has anyone thought of a Sky Skin for MythTV? |
| [20:16:54] | iamlindoro__: | heheh |
| [20:16:56] | PatrickDK: | heh? that is horrid |
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| [20:17:16] | iamlindoro__: | I know I'm going to hate someone when they call them skins. Call it a hunch. |
| [20:17:32] | hnitsuj: | call them what you like. I've done my time |
| [20:17:37] | PatrickDK: | call it clothing? |
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| [20:17:54] | hnitsuj: | that said, I'm doing some research now |
| [20:19:41] | wild_oscar: | thanks for the help, iamlindoro |
| [20:19:46] | hnitsuj: | good grief, is there not a single standalone PVR UI that doesn't suck goats? |
| [20:19:47] | iamlindoro__: | np |
| [20:21:09] | BobSlob: | anyone know a good mythtv theme site? |
| [20:21:28] | hnitsuj: | not one where they're all in one place, no |
| [20:21:47] | hnitsuj: | the wiki links to some non-core themes which are acceptable |
| [20:22:10] | BobSlob: | so you recommend what i'm doing now... google mythtv theme and go through it? =D |
| [20:22:26] | hnitsuj: | er.. which part of "THE WIKI" is hard to grasp? |
| [20:22:53] | BobSlob: | oh, i've been to the wiki |
| [20:23:04] | hnitsuj: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Category:Themes |
| [20:23:11] | hnitsuj: | that's your lot then |
| [20:23:22] | hnitsuj: | there are no others |
| [20:24:20] | hnitsuj: | and only about 75% of the user contributed themes linked to from that page still exist or will work with 0.21 |
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| [20:34:44] | joecurlee: | hello. I just installed a second hard drive in my computer. I want to set this up as the main drive which mythtv records to... where is this setting located? |
| [20:35:55] | iamlindoro__: | mythtv-setup, last step |
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| [20:40:38] | joecurlee: | cool thanks |
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| [20:49:32] | Aval0n: | iamlindoro_: hey you helped me fix this before... http://pastebin.org/24340 |
| [20:49:39] | Aval0n: | dunno why it happened again |
| [20:49:47] | Aval0n: | can you remind me what you had me do before? |
| [20:50:00] | iamlindoro__: | move the libav* stuff out of /usr/lib |
| [20:50:19] | iamlindoro__: | codec, util, format should be enough |
| [20:51:29] | Aval0n: | hmm |
| [20:51:32] | Aval0n: | that didn't work this time |
| [20:51:56] | Aval0n: | I did mkdir ~/libavbackup | mv /usr/lib/libav*.* ~/libavbackup |
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| [20:52:05] | Aval0n: | same error |
| [20:52:32] | iamlindoro__: | it's /usr/include |
| [20:52:50] | iamlindoro__: | but only move the three I told you to |
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| [20:54:17] | Aval0n: | okie |
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| [21:25:22] | neb_: | hmm, say you have a recording with subtitles and want to watch it in windows |
| [21:25:27] | neb_: | would mplayer do the trick? |
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| [21:30:26] | neb_: | or well, i'm struggling to understand why mplayer can display subs in windows |
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| [21:31:23] | BobSlob: | vert! |
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| [21:38:48] | antivert: | mythtv frontend and backend are locking up while scaling theme images.. any ideas? |
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| [21:40:48] | antivert: | hey bob :) |
| [21:40:48] | antivert: | I deleted your theme cache.. it might just be taking a longass time |
| [21:41:22] | purserj: | hmm |
| [21:41:35] | BobSlob: | it was flip-flopping between 97% and 11%... and has been on 11% for a few minutes now |
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| [21:49:10] | antivert: | newp, definitely locked up |
| [21:50:19] | Wonka: | uh-oh: http://www.digitimes.com/mobos/a20080318PD212.html |
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| [21:52:35] | ** purserj sighs, so I've got mythnews pulling down and storing files, however run into a new snag. If it plays an audio file you have no control ** | |
| [21:53:11] | purserj: | with a video file, you can do the usual – kill, pause, rewind and so on, but with audio control goes to mplayer but no window appears |
| [21:53:28] | mchou: | Wonka: that's interesting |
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| [21:54:24] | mchou: | Nvidia could kill off another competitor |
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| [22:05:54] | hnitsuj: | just realised tonight about something mythtv could really do with (added to my to-do list btw) – a channel editor that doesn't live in mythweb and is more comprehensive than the one available in live tv |
| [22:06:15] | xris: | hnitsuj: you mean like the one in mythtv-setup? |
| [22:06:29] | hnitsuj: | xris: kind of but nicer |
| [22:06:39] | xris: | that's just changing the interface |
| [22:06:51] | hnitsuj: | and making it available as a frontend gadget |
| [22:07:03] | ** neb_ wonders if anyone might be able to help with his sub query as its confusing him :) ** | |
| [22:07:20] | hnitsuj: | will come into its own if/when channel groups ever come about |
| [22:07:54] | xris: | hnitsuj: why would it go into the frontend? only time you should be changing channels is during setup. |
| [22:08:16] | xris: | channel groups/favorites are another matter, completely separate |
| [22:08:50] | hnitsuj: | it'd still be nice to be able to do it from the frontend IMHO. I'm not asking anybody else to do it :) |
| [22:09:49] | xris: | it just doesn't make sense from an organizational standpoint, though.. |
| [22:10:03] | xris: | aside from the fact that imho "setup" should be accessible from the frontend.. |
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| [22:10:23] | hnitsuj: | well, either that or make it possible to set/unset channels as favourites via a menu option in the guide |
| [22:11:07] | xris: | like I said.. channel editor and favorites editor are completely separate beasts.. or should be. |
| [22:11:52] | hnitsuj: | I'm not saying that exposing tuning/xmltvid info to a frontend based editor is a good idea though |
| [22:14:08] | hnitsuj: | maybe 'channel editor' was the wrong thing to call it.. channel _organiser_ ... |
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| [22:15:18] | hnitsuj: | discovered a raft of things 'wrong' with my xmltv grabber tonight. their categorisation sucks. e.g. 'The simple life' should not be termed a documentary series ;) |
| [22:17:12] | hnitsuj: | not saying it's certain I'd ever get around to making the organiser anyway. got plenty to try to accomplish before then |
| [22:17:12] | hobbynutte: | have made a diff for some missing german translations ( i translated all untrasleted i found in mythweb) for mythweb .21-fixes svn, but what to do now with diff? |
| [22:17:49] | xris: | hobbynutte: ticket |
| [22:17:56] | hnitsuj: | hobbynutte: go to svn.mythtv.org, set your email address as a preference on a page there & open a new ticket. attach your patch to the ticket |
| [22:18:07] | hobbynutte: | aah thanks you both :) |
| [22:18:30] | hnitsuj: | it'd help a lot if you do your best to set the correct fields too i.e. version, category (enhancement) ... |
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| [22:19:22] | hobbynutte: | yep i ll try to fill out everything right :) |
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| [22:19:29] | hobbynutte: | btw solved my 12hour prob :P |
| [22:20:06] | hobbynutte: | type: patch ? |
| [22:20:13] | hnitsuj: | yup |
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| [22:24:56] | hobbynutte: | http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/4996 |
| [22:25:04] | hobbynutte: | hope its ok :) |
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| [22:54:33] | grout: | When I click watch tv it blinks and nothing happends |
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| [22:55:01] | grout: | really not even sure where to begin to troubleshoot |
| [22:57:55] | iamlindoro__: | front and backend logs would be where to start |
| [22:58:28] | xris: | !seen justinh |
| [22:58:28] | MythLogBot: | justinh was last seen 19 days 6 hours 7 minutes 1 second ago |
| [22:58:43] | iamlindoro__: | !seen hnitsuj |
| [22:58:43] | MythLogBot: | hnitsuj was last seen 22 minutes 43 seconds ago |
| [22:58:46] | iamlindoro__: | ;) |
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| [23:08:26] | emacsen: | Is there a way to tell mythtv to compress or at least clean up its nuv files? |
| [23:09:02] | emacsen: | oh nevermind |
| [23:09:16] | emacsen: | I found the problem... there's an 81gb mpeg file here |
| [23:09:24] | emacsen: | how can I find out what owns it and delete it safely? |
| [23:11:56] | grout: | where are the front and backend logs? |
| [23:12:18] | jamesd: | that is your nextdoor neighbhor goat porn collection |
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| [23:15:53] | emacsen: | same host- good idea |
| [23:16:41] | emacsen: | zgrep 1091_20080318070001.mpg * in the logs doesn't show anything |
| [23:17:29] | emacsen: | ah, it appears to be "now" |
| [23:17:34] | emacsen: | as in it's recording now |
| [23:17:52] | gbee: | recording started at 7am on 18th March |
| [23:18:04] | gbee: | emacsen: runaway livetv? |
| [23:18:08] | emacsen: | ah, so somehow it began recording at 7 and hasn't stopped |
| [23:18:15] | emacsen: | so, how do I safely stop it? |
| [23:18:23] | emacsen: | "use the tv my son" |
| [23:18:28] | gbee: | restart the backend |
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| [23:18:39] | gbee: | it's a bug |
| [23:18:59] | gbee: | one which I thought we'd fixed months ago |
| [23:19:12] | GreyFoxx: | cant find it in watch recordings and issue a stop ? |
| [23:19:32] | emacsen: | it doesn't show up in the recordings |
| [23:19:32] | gbee: | GreyFoxx: no, it will be the livetv jumpto loop bug |
| [23:19:41] | antivert: | grout: /var/log/mythtv/ |
| [23:19:45] | antivert: | emacsen: ls -l <filename> will tell you who owns it |
| [23:19:45] | emacsen: | can I safely remove it? |
| [23:19:51] | gbee: | no normal recording can last more than 6 hours |
| [23:20:17] | emacsen: | it's 12 hours of the local weather channel |
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| [23:20:45] | gbee: | see #3618 |
| [23:21:36] | gbee: | I think we better look at Shane's patches with a thought of getting them into -fixes |
| [23:21:48] | gbee: | I'm just a little busy with qt4/mythui right now |
| [23:22:24] | emacsen: | that doesn't help me with the immediate issue |
| [23:22:27] | emacsen: | can I delete the file? |
| [23:22:42] | gbee: | emacsen: yeah |
| [23:22:49] | neb_: | gbee: sorry to be a pain in the ass, any ideas how i can proceed? :) |
| [23:22:56] | emacsen: | thx |
| [23:23:47] | gbee: | neb_: sorry no, Windows isn't my area of expertise |
| [23:24:16] | neb_: | hehe, same here |
| [23:24:19] | gbee: | does anyone here know of a Windows based media player which can handle DVB subtitles? |
| [23:24:36] | gbee: | neb_: which country? |
| [23:24:40] | neb_: | uk |
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| [23:25:06] | gbee: | right, definately DVB subtitles then |
| [23:25:10] | neb_: | well, i'd wipe this Q1 and put *anything* that plays dvb subs on it |
| [23:26:25] | gbee: | neb_: vlc linux can play them, so I guess the Windows version can too |
| [23:27:23] | ** neb_ runs away to try ** | |
| [23:27:27] | gbee: | http://www.videolan.org/vlc |
| [23:27:30] | AndyCap: | there's also mplayer for windows. |
| [23:27:46] | gbee: | under video=>subtitles |
| [23:27:52] | gbee: | select the english track |
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| [23:31:40] | neb_: | gbee: fantastic :D |
| [23:31:51] | neb_: | you've made my day |
| [23:32:05] | gbee: | well that's made mine :) |
| [23:33:22] | neb_: | AndyCap: mplayer couldn't do it btw |
| [23:33:47] | neb_: | or maybe it can, i just didn't poke enough – vlc is just *easy* tho |
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| [23:43:39] | neb_: | gbee: thanks again |
| [23:43:45] | ** neb_ wanders off to bed ** | |
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| [23:57:11] | waini: | hi |
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| [23:57:33] | waini: | is it possible to initate a eit-scan manually? |
| [23:58:58] | neb_: | how do you mean? |
| [23:59:02] | gbee: | waini: eit scanning runs all the time, so when would to need to start it manually? |
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| [23:59:48] | mikeones_: | anyone know if this is a mythtv issuse or ivtv? |
| [23:59:49] | mikeones_: | ivtv0: All encoder MPG stream buffers are full. Dropping data. |
| [23:59:50] | mikeones_: | ivtv0: Cause: the application is not reading fast enough. |
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