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Tuesday, December 25th, 2007, 00:00 UTC

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BenB:

hi... my mythtv mythically stopped making any recordings or showing livetv...

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BenB:

the logs don't show anything. I have record, channel, file, general, important on verbose, but nothing.

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\matt\:

join the club =]

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BenB:

the logs says it tuned properly, opened the file, "StartedRecording", but then immediately afterwards "FinishedRecording". The file has zero length.

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BenB:

Matt: where's the club? I join!

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\matt\:

i can watch tv, but only in 2 minut increments ;\

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BenB:

doing a low-level recording and tuning with commandline tools works, and the EPG data is there.

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BenB:

matt: heh, I haven't had that one

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BenB:

anybody has any idea why mythtv would decide to "StartedRecording", "FinishedRecording"?

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BenB:

DVBChan(0): Tune(): Frequency tuning successful.

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BenB:

SetFlags(WaitingForSignal,) -> RunMainLoop,

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\matt\:

try freevo, that's what im about to do =P

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BenB:

ClearFlags(NeedToStartRecorder,) -> RunMainLoop,

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BenB:

matt: actually, I am writing my *own* system

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BenB:

matt: but in the meantime, I need to get mythtv working again

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BenB:

SetChannel() — end

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Jonny88:

If I want mythtv to upscale DVD to 720p on the fly from a standard DVD drive and shop brought DVD will a Nvidia 7200 and AMD LE-1620 suffice or will I get playback problems?

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BenB:

Jonny88: I don't think you'll have problems.

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fryfrog:

"upscale"?

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BenB:

Jonny88: I am running standard TV

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fryfrog:

as in, your display is 720p, X is setup with 1280x720 resoluiton?

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fryfrog:

i think even a p2 400 can do that :)

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BenB:

Jonny88: on a 1920x1080 display without problems

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Jonny88:

as in, I have a 720*1280 TV and I want myth to 'enhance' DVD to 720p quality

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Jonny88:

and a P2 400 takes about 10mins to boot ubuntu in my experiance

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\matt\:

are there any other help chans for mythtv?

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\matt\:

=

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code-r:

how do you upgrade alsa drivers?

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orkid:

it's christmas! it's time for TV! :D

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BenB:

code-r: either by upgrading your kernel (preferred) or by removing all alsa stuff from your kernel and using the distro on alsa-project.org

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code-r:

=) time toupdate kernel

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code-r:

=) hopefully it will fix my NOVA-S too :-S

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** code-r mad at the nova-s **

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iamlindoro:

code-r: What's wrong w/ your nova-s? I have one and haven't had any issues

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code-r:

iamlindoro: it worked great with kernel 2.6.18

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code-r:

iamlindoro: when i upgraded fedora core 6 to 2.6.22 it would not lock

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code-r:

sat 0, frequency = 12443 MHz V, symbolrate 20000000, vpid = 0x0000, apid = 0x0000

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code-r:

using '/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0' and '/dev/dvb/adapter0/demux0'

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code-r:

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code-r:

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iamlindoro:

Hmm... strange! I'm running it on 2.6.22

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code-r:

in kernel 2.6.18 i get signal > FF00

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code-r:

with 2.6.22 (v4l and stock drivers) i get the above..

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code-r:

i donno why

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code-r:

i dont even know who to ask :-S

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iamlindoro:

weird... well I would venture a guess that it's not necessarily the kernel itself, as I am okay with 2.6.22... but perhaps with different options

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iamlindoro:

That's with stock gutsy kernel FYI

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code-r:

iamlindoro: im not using any options in modprobe... its so wierd.. signal drops 50% on 6.22 !!! i donno why

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code-r:

iamlindoro: i put it in a new box with fedora 8 same problem

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code-r:

iamlindoro: an there never any one in v4l

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code-r:

dmesg -> http://pastebin.ca/831491

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code-r:

theres no firmware for these right...

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iamlindoro:

none that needs downloading, anyway

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code-r:

i wish i knew whats goign on.. with fedora 8 i cant downgrade

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code-r:

and i need to apply the DISEC patch for the v4l drivers

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\matt\:

mythtv doesnt work, get use to it, lol

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code-r:

????

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iamlindoro:

mythtv works perfectly for many people... I would be looking at myself were I in your position

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\matt\:

how is it i have recomended hardware, fresh-installed, got drivers working, and cant watch tv for more than 2 minuts

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BenB:

code-r: try linuxtv, but first try the newest kernel, maybe it's indeed a "regression" that would probably be fixed in 2.6.23

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iamlindoro:

\matt\ I don't know, but there'd be a lot more bitching if everyone had that experience... which they don't

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code-r:

i just upgraded to

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code-r:

Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.23.1–42.fc8 #1 SMP Tue Oct 30 13:55:12 EDT 2007 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux

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code-r:

[

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iamlindoro:

so don't blame mythtv just because you can't make it work

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BenB:

iamlindoro: ok, maybe you can helpme figure this out why mythtv just does not record, see above

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GreyFoxx:

\matt\: my first though is to check the output of the backend and frontend to see what if any errors they spit out

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BenB:

iamlindoro: I have tons of problems. in fact, it breaks down every week

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iamlindoro:

benb, I'll be happy to take a look once I'm off the phone

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code-r:

"cx8802: Unknown symbol cx88_reset

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code-r:

wierd...

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\matt\:

i get no errors

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\matt\:

period

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\matt\:

it exits

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BenB:

iamlindoro_: thanks

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\matt\:

dumps core

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\matt\:

that's all i get

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GreyFoxx:

\matt\: Ok, then use gdb to get a backtrace

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\matt\:

i'm not a developer

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GreyFoxx:

So ?

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\matt\:

i dont know wtf gdb is

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GreyFoxx:

You can still type a command or two

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BenB:

code-r: unknown symbol means one of 2 things: 1) required module not loaded 2) the module was compiled for a different kernel.

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code-r:

BenB: i just did a yum update kernel kerenl-devel

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GreyFoxx:

\matt\: try this. There is asection telling you how to get a useful backtrace

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code-r:

and that happend :-P

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GreyFoxx:

http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-22.html#ss22.2

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BenB:

GreyFoxx: gdb is too much for a non-dev – it includes recompile as debug

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code-r:

hmm.m..... odd

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GreyFoxx:

BenB: bullshit

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GreyFoxx:

you do NOT need to be a programmer to compile something yourself

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** BenB o0OOoOoo <-- bullshit **

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GreyFoxx:

And even that assumes that a binary package doesn;t have the debug symbols left in it

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code-r:

ok how do i swap to a new kernel?

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BenB:

code-r: depends on your distro, bootloader etc.

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code-r:

BenB: fedora 8 grub

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BenB:

code-r: I don't use yum, I just do co arch/i386/bnoot/bzImage /boot/kernel (adapt grup); make modules_install

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BenB:

cp, not co

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code-r:

lol

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BenB:

code-r: but you better look in the fedora docs or kernel compilation howto

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code-r:

BenB: dam last time i did a yum update... it did it auto lol

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code-r:

iamlindoro: do you have the nova-s or nova-s-plus

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\matt\:

so how do i gdb the frontend?

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iamlindoro:

code-r: The plus

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iamlindoro:

\matt\: gdb mythfrontend, then run

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\matt\:

heh, that's pretty funny

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iamlindoro:

nothing funny about it, that's how you do it

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iamlindoro:

like, literally the command lines

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\matt\:

care to try that on your system? =]

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code-r:

oddest thing...

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code-r:

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code-r:

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code-r:

alwasy starts at 6000 then goes down to 5600

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iamlindoro:

works fine

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\matt\:

GNU gdb 6.6-debian

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\matt\:

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\matt\:

GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are

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\matt\:

welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions.

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\matt\:

Type "show copying" to see the conditions.

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\matt\:

There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details.

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\matt\:

This GDB was configured as "i486-linux-gnu"...

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\matt\:

"/usr/bin/mythfrontend": not in executable format: File format not recognized

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\matt\:

(gdb)

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iamlindoro:

you probably have that linked to some script, for you it may be mythfrontend.real or something

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\matt\:

(no debugging symbols found)

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iamlindoro:

so read one of the compile from source howtos, compile from source, and see where you're at

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iamlindoro:

it's simple, especially if you are on any debian based distro

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iamlindoro:

apt-get build-dep mythtv

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code-r:

when did 2.6.18 come out?

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iamlindoro:

then build the svn source according to README

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iamlindoro:

\matt\ if you think that mythtv is such a difficult disaster, then it may just not be for you

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\matt\:

you may be right =\

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fryfrog:

never hurts to try out other things

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iamlindoro:

k, then I won't waste any more breath trying to troubleshoot

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\matt\:

i've been trying for a week, if i hasnt happened yet, i guess it's just not going to

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code-r:

for v4l dvb amek isntall will overwrite the stock drivers right?

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GreyFoxx:

\matt\: You can always try running the frontend with -v all

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aarcane:

Hi, I have a small issue. mythtv causes X to use 100% CPU whenever it's rendering any input elements or text elements

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GreyFoxx:

see what gets logged just before the crash

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\matt\:

did that, got no errors

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\matt\:

wanna see?

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GreyFoxx:

It's not just about errors

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\matt\:

i take that back

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aarcane:

what should I do to fix it?

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\matt\:

it had some stuff about audio

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\matt\:

but people on google said that was normal

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GreyFoxx:

\matt\: Knowing some of what happened right before will give someone a place to start looking

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GreyFoxx:

Put as much detail as you can into a bug ticket , and your log, info about the hardware/distro/mythversion etc

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GreyFoxx:

http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/

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iamlindoro:

if it's the usual audio codec blah blah, it may well be normal... but until you show *someone* the logs, not a lot anyone can do to help you. And the surly comments probably don't incline anyone to either

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GreyFoxx:

aarcane: Using the OpenGL Painter or the QT Painter?

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\matt\:

007-12–24 18:40:41.892 AO: audio waiting for space on soundcard: have 3392 need 6144

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\matt\:

2007-12–24 18:40:41.894 AFD: video timecode 29750724 29750724 330563 330649

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\matt\:

2007-12–24 18:40:41.894 AFD: audio timecode 29758445 29758445 330649 330673

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\matt\:

2007-12–24 18:40:41.894 AO: _AddSamples bytes=4608, used=30721, free=737279, timecode=330649

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BenB:

iamlindoro_: can you take a look at my problem description above? it boils down to: all there, tuning works, EPG data there, but any recording/livetv stops immediately.

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GreyFoxx:

Not in here

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aarcane:

GreyFoxx, using either. it happens less when using the OpenGL painter.

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GreyFoxx:

weird, I've seen a similar problem a long long time ago with certain nvidia drivers and openGL painting

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GreyFoxx:

but nothing recent

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iamlindoro:

Benb, was just looking... so it creates the file, but it's of 0 length, or no file created at all?

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GreyFoxx:

and it always stopped when changing to the QT painter

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aarcane:

GreyFoxx, got any information on a fix ?

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BenB:

iamlindoro: 0 length files

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alexvd_:

\matt\: what are your tuners?

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\matt\:

happaugue pvr 150

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iamlindoro:

Benb, what result do you get in watching TV with other applications?

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alexvd_:

how are they connected cable or directv external box

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GreyFoxx:

aarcane: With the problem I had seen in the past the users changed nvidia driver versions and the problem went away

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\matt\:

which is why i'm annohed

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\matt\:

*annoied

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\matt\:

from the wall to the card

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BenB:

iamlindoro: I'm not using any other apps, but I tune using tzap and record via cat dvr0 > file.mpg and watch via xine file.mpg, and that works fine

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\matt\:

no box in between

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GreyFoxx:

aarcane: You using compiz ?

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aarcane:

GreyFoxx, I've already changed nvidia driver versions from a dated version to a current version from the nvidia website, it hasn't fixed it/

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iamlindoro:

Benb, and that's with .20.2 or SVN?

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BenB:

.20.x

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alexvd_:

you verified the right frequency your using cable hrc not broadcast

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aarcane:

GreyFoxx, nope, just a default debian etch install with debian-multimedia repo and nvidia.org nvidia drivers

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iamlindoro:

where x =?

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\matt\:

alexvd_, talking to me?

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alexvd_:

\matt\:yes

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GreyFoxx:

aarcane: Just as a test

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\matt\:

alexvd_, yes, i selected us-cable

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BenB:

iamlindoro: 0.20.20060828–3

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GreyFoxx:

try adding these two lines to your xorg.conf and restart X

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GreyFoxx:

Option "RenderAccel" "Off"

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GreyFoxx:

Option "AllowGLXWithComposite" "Off"

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\matt\:

in the initial setup

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GreyFoxx:

in the device section definding your card

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iamlindoro:

Benb, whoah, why such an old version?

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alexvd_:

\matt\: what happens when you do a test recording

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BenB:

iamlindoro: probably that's the newest in the suse repo

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aarcane:

GreyFoxx, I'll try it out, I'm not home now. any other advice ?

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alexvd_:

\matt\: from commandline

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BenB:

iamlindoro: but it worked fine until recently...

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\matt\:

it's the front end that's the problem

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iamlindoro:

BenB: Ouch, if that's the case, yuck...

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BenB:

iamlindoro: I don't know what changed...

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\matt\:

i'm pretty sure the back end is fine

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iamlindoro:

Benb, have you run mysqlcheck on your db?

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\matt\:

my last install it recorded a bunch of programs with out fail

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BenB:

no

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GreyFoxx:

aarcane: no, but I've had the same problem as you vefore adding the RenderAccel stuff. I've had it in my config for so many years I had forgotten about it

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alexvd_:

\matt\ well can you see the recordings from mythweb

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iamlindoro:

BenB: Let's start with that

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\matt\:

no, i've re-installed

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BenB:

Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost'

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aarcane:

GreyFoxx, alright, thanks :) I'll be back in a few hours once I get home and test it~

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alexvd_:

\matt\: oh so this in an all in one box backend and frontend on same machine

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** BenB tries to get around that **

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iamlindoro:

BenB: You run it like any mysql connection, mysqlcheck -uwhatever -pwhatever mythconverg

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\matt\:

yes

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\matt\:

trying to set up media center in the living room, lol

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alexvd_:

\matt\: did you change the default recording directory or anything like that.

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iamlindoro:

BenB: After that, let's try cat'ing to a file in your recordings directory to check permissions... what user does mythbackend run as for you?

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GreyFoxx:

\matt\: Your not running out of diskspace maybe ?

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BenB:

iamlindoro: well, given that it can create 0 length files, I'd assume permissions to that are OK.... not sure about permissions to /dev/dvb/*

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\matt\:

no, but i did go to the /var/lib/mythtv and remove audio, video, and pictures, then linked them to folders in hdb

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iamlindoro:

BenB: Yeah, I would assume as well, but I just want to cover my bases

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\matt\:

which has 40 gigs free

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\matt\:

my system hd has 12 gigs free

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iamlindoro:

BenB: When you do the cat, make sure you are doing it as the user running mythbackend

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BenB:

iamlindoro: yes, understood

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iamlindoro:

BenB: Presuming that works, I'd go back into mythtv-setup, remove your capture cards, recreate them, and point them at the recordings directory all over again and see if that helps

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BenB:

iamlindoro: I have a guess... when I try to use the commandline tzap, it says the resource is busy... I don't think there are recordings running... what is mythtv doing there? I saw a new "EIT data" stuff that was new to me, maybe it's falling over its own feet, trying to access the device at the same time?

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BenB:

(i should have "use card only when needed enabled")

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iamlindoro:

BenB: I suppose it's possible, it's been a while since I ran with that version but there's a tickbox in there somewhere to free up the card when not using it... we definitely want that checked

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BenB:

yes, and I think I do... that's why I am wondering why it card is busy

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iamlindoro:

And, if you want to test that hypothesis, you could always temporarily turn off using EIT data

[01:02:38]

BenB:

ah, right, it's a per channel setting, I remember

[01:02:56]

iamlindoro:

also, let's just check to be sure that your mythbackend user is a member of group video

[01:03:13]

BenB:

it is

[01:03:53]

BenB:

mythplayer:x:1001:100:MythTV frontend:/home/mythplayer:/bin/bash

[01:03:53]

BenB:

mythbackend:x:1002:2:MythTV Server:/home/mythbackend:/bin/bash

[01:04:08]

BenB:

video:x:33:ben,mythbackend,mythplayer

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iamlindoro:

looks ok

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BenB:

I wonder why ps axu reports "1002" for mythbackend, but "ben" for my bash – why can't it look up the user name?

[01:04:56]

iamlindoro:

Anyway, what happened when you attempted the cat to the recording directory with user mythbackend?

[01:05:21]

BenB:

works fine, both echo foo > foo and cat foo in my store dir

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BenB:

(as su mythbackend)

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GreyFoxx:

Any xbox360 users here who use a upnp server to feed video to the console ?

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iamlindoro:

ok... well, my next step would be to remove the capture cards and re-add them, and also maybe temporarily try another recording directory to see if you can get it going

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iamlindoro:

And if *that* fails, well, then I would back up the db, zero it out, and see if it works with a fresh db... but that's getting ahead of ourselves

[01:07:42]

BenB:

iamlindoro: I'd prefer not to do that, as it's rather invasive/dangerous to config and time consuming (mythtv-setup is a GUI). but it may make sense, yes. I do have a new card, but it should appear the same to mythtv as the old, and the problem appeared with the old card as well (in fact I bought the new card because I suspected the card)

[01:08:07]

matt\:

should i try a fresh install again?

[01:08:09]

BenB:

(not to do that = remove and re-add card)

[01:08:23]

matt\:

or go to an earlier release?

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iamlindoro:

BenB: Well, it shouldn't be time-consuming at all... as long as you don't remove your lineups, then removing and readding your card should change nothing

[01:09:28]

iamlindoro:

BenB: But you need to decide how far you're willing to go to get it fixed... if you will go this far and no further, then I can't do much more to help you

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** BenB just tried to record via tzap and cat dvr0 > mymythtvstore/test as user mythbackend, and it works (file has content) **

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iamlindoro:

BenB: Also may want to upgrade your myth... .20.0 is wayyyyy old

[01:11:09]

iamlindoro:

and your problem might well be fixed simply by coming up to current version (.20.2)

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BenB:

iamlindoro: I know, but I need 1 day at least to fix any breakages every time I update. besides, that's the newest release.

[01:12:12]

BenB:

and in my experience, my problems are not fixed

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iamlindoro:

BenB: It's *not* the newest release... may be the newest package for suse, but .20.2 is the newest myth release

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BenB:

nod

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iamlindoro:

So you're running two packages old

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iamlindoro:

er two releases old

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BenB:

I understand, it's just that upgrading is in my experience 1–2 x 8 hours of work, and typically does not fix my problems, so I don't bother.

[01:13:38]

iamlindoro:

Well, not a lot I can do to fix three myth's ago, especially when you won't even delete and re-add your card

[01:13:44]

iamlindoro:

you're on your own

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BenB:

I'll try disabling EIT data and then re-adding the card via mythtv-setup

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iamlindoro:

BenB: Just one more minor thing... check your times

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iamlindoro:

hwclock and date

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iamlindoro:

and just make sure both are accurate and in sync

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psofa:

anyone having trouble with the osd ?fonts are too big and cant be held properly by the respective boxes.changing font sizes seems to have no effect

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psofa:

ive always had this prob

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The_Rebel:

*sigh* i still can't edit the transports in my "dvb transport editor"

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The_Rebel:

help meh plz!

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daMaestro:

how can i delete a user job that is not going to run (and should not)

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iamlindoro:

psofa: As I recall, some of the osd fonts disregard the font changes... I believe there is an osd.xml file in the osd directory that hardcodes the font sizes... try changing them there

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iamlindoro:

that is, in each respective osd's directory

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iamlindoro:

From looking at one right now, it appears all the font declarations are right there at the top

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psofa:

The_Rebel, ive found that the only sane way to deal with manual channel stuff is editing directly the db

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psofa:

iamlindoro, thanks

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The_Rebel:

psofa, what tables?

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psofa:

The_Rebel, dtv_multiplex or sth holds the transpoders

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The_Rebel:

ty,i'll check that out

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The_Rebel:

i know dtv_multiplex has some info on channels streams but not the actually transport settings that are stored..

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roothorick:

hello again everyone. My cable company gave me a SciAl Explorer 4250HDC. It has firewire. Chance of success?

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The_Rebel:

where is this "sth" table?

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psofa:

err

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psofa:

sth= something

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The_Rebel:

..

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psofa:

sorry i spend too much time on irc

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psofa:

ive fucked up my english

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psofa:

)

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daMaestro:

roothorick, to do what with it?

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iamlindoro:

roothorick: Really the box isn't what's going to determine anything... all depends on your cable company... and can only plug in and find out

[01:40:10]

iamlindoro:

daMaestro: I presume he wants to record via firewire

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The_Rebel:

alright then, i just flushed the db

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The_Rebel:

that'll fix its boat

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** The_Rebel high fives #mythtv-users **

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roothorick:

iamlindoro hit it on the head

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iamlindoro:

worst case you'll get nothing at all, moderately you'll get netowrk tv, and if you're extreeeeemely lucky ten you'll get it all

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roothorick:

next question

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roothorick:

even if nothing comes over the firewire, can I still control the cable box via firewire and capture using a traditional card?

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iamlindoro:

you can certainly capture using a traditional card, I don't think there is a firewire control for that box, though, will probably need an IR blaster

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roothorick:

wouldn't the generic SciAl Explorer control work?

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iamlindoro:

*possible*, but you should look at the source to know for sure

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roothorick:

the entire series is almost identical firmware-wise

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iamlindoro:

There's a 3250 control, but not one specifically for 4250

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iamlindoro:

may work, just can't know until you try

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roothorick:

TWC is phasing out the 3250s in favor of the cablecard-based 4250s in this area

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iamlindoro:

looking at the sa3250 script, there is mention of the 4250, so it may very well work

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iamlindoro:

errr, whoops

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iamlindoro:

fprintf(stderr, "Ignoring SA 4250HDC on node %d — "

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iamlindoro:

"sorry not supported yet\n", i);

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iamlindoro:

Not gonna work, looks like

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roothorick:

lol

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roothorick:

great

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roothorick:

probably means support is coming soon though

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iamlindoro:

Maybe... can probably still use an IR Blaster just fine though

[01:49:39]

iamlindoro:

and soon may be a relative term

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roothorick:

so even if I get firewire recording I'll need to set up an iR blaster

[01:50:07]

iamlindoro:

Looks like

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roothorick:

or use the VCR timer feature on the cable box, but that's cumbersome

[01:50:48]

iamlindoro:

That would be awful, and make live tv functionality impossible

[01:51:19]

roothorick:

well, it'd be limited but I'd still be able to pause live TV

[01:51:42]

iamlindoro:

But not change the channels

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roothorick:

I could change the channels using the cable box remote, but again, it would be cumbersome

[01:52:25]

roothorick:

now, opinion time: remote control or wireless keyboard?

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iamlindoro:

Yikes, I want no part in that

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The_Rebel:

roothorick

[01:53:06]

The_Rebel:

both

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roothorick:

hm, I just realized I'm going to need a soundcard with TOSlink in to integrate everything flawlessly with my speakers

[01:53:20]

roothorick:

hmmmmmm

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iamlindoro:

Remote if you want it to behave like a media ceter, and keyboard if you plan to surf, etc.

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BenB:

iamlindoro: turned out I needed to re-scan the channel list (DVB-T)

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roothorick:

screw it, let's get things working at all, then we'll worry about proper sound

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iamlindoro:

BenB: Great, glad it's fixed

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roothorick:

iamlindoro: I want the DVR functionality, plus be able to play videos out of a dedicated folder

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BenB:

based on a new scan using linuxtv's scan (old transponders were bad apparently)

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The_Rebel:

MCE remote + Adesso mini-multimedia kb with trackball = the ultimate setup for remote input

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BenB:

iamlindoro: me too :)

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roothorick:

that I shove stuff in over SSH or FTP from other machines

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The_Rebel:

and maybe a wireless gamepad for your roms

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BenB:

iamlindoro: thanks for assistance

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iamlindoro:

BenB: no prob

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iamlindoro:

roothorick: For that then a remote will do the job to begin with

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The_Rebel:

question here: how do i get mythtv to access my windows SMB shares?

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iamlindoro:

Just mount the shares to a directory on your myth box

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roothorick:

The_Rebel: my attitude is go the other way around. Install NFS for WinXP on everyone and dump videos into a folder on an NFS share

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The_Rebel:

well i want to share my media from my windows PC's to my Myth-box

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iamlindoro:

The_Rebel: and?

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roothorick:

that's an interesting vibration...

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The_Rebel:

and thats it.. i guess, i've got a lot of experience with Samba so i prefer it

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The_Rebel:

never really used NFS before

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iamlindoro:

The_Rebel: so what's the problem with mounting the samba shares on your myth box?

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The_Rebel:

where do i have to mount them for myth to reconize it?

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roothorick:

The_Rebel: NFS is a lot easier to work with. Simpler protocol. It's slightly faster too

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iamlindoro:

depends on what you're sharing... if you're sharing videos, mount it somewhere under wherever you set myth's video directory to, and run a video scan

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BenB:

roothorick: if he knows and prefers SMB, that's the better choice for him.

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iamlindoro:

likewise with music and photos

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BenB:

The_Rebel: the directory is settable within mythtv (mythtv-setup, IIRC)

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iamlindoro:

negative, that's set from withinfrontend

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The_Rebel:

i see, i just started using mythtv last week and i've spent most of my time just getting my capture card working, so im a lil rusty around the edges..

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BenB:

or mythfrontend config

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hatlevip:

is there a filesize limit with smb?

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iamlindoro:

utilities/setup->Setup->Media Settings->Video Settings->General

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BenB:

The_Rebel: you want to make sure you can read/write files > 2 GB

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iamlindoro:

hatlevip: Not with recent samba builds (anything in the last few years)

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The_Rebel:

iamlindoro, they have to be bigger then 2GB?

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BenB:

The_Rebel: note that the dir for mythtv and mythvideo is different

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The_Rebel:

oh vm

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The_Rebel:

nvm

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iamlindoro:

nope, any size file is fine, including > 2 GB

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BenB:

The_Rebel: recordings / video files easily get over 2 GB.

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The_Rebel:

yeah i've noticed

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The_Rebel:

but they can be transcoded to a smaller file size, eh?

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The_Rebel:

with some quality loss

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iamlindoro:

Sure

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BenB:

The_Rebel: essentially, you just mount your samba share using smbmount or whatever in your Linux filesystem, then point mythtv to that linux dir. that should be it.

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hatlevip:

transcode just takes time

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iamlindoro:

I personally prefer higher quality and disk space is cheap... I seldom transcode much

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The_Rebel:

thanks for the info BenB and iamlindoro, i appreciate it

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hatlevip:

iamlindoro, i agree, other than to flash for the mythweb player

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iamlindoro:

hatlevip: although that's on the fly and you preserve the original recording, of course

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iamlindoro:

The_Rebel: no problem

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BenB:

I agree, but with HD, it starts to hurt (11GB and up for 2 hours)

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BenB:

(but I still want the original)

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iamlindoro:

BenB: Agreed, My HD stuff get's transcoded to 720p x.264/AAC

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hatlevip:

iamlindoro, we have it setup to go on every recording as a user job

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iamlindoro:

hatlevip: User job for what? In SVN mythweb player transcodes on demand, no job necessary

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hatlevip:

iamlindoro, but def preserves original

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The_Rebel:

one more question (and this has really been bugging me): when i go into the guide and select a show to watch i always get recording options

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The_Rebel:

i just want to watch tv damn it!

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iamlindoro:

The_Rebel: go to your tv playback options, there's a tickbox for something about browse live tv mode, that will be what you want

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The_Rebel:

thank you!

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hatlevip:

iamlindoro, i know, just added some extra code so if there is an flv mythweb uses that

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iamlindoro:

hatlevip: ok

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hatlevip:

iamlindoro, our backend is slow so does nothing but recording, commflagg and user jobs run on some beefier hardware here

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iamlindoro:

ah

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hatlevip:

iamlindoro, i think flash player is only in wythweb svn...

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hatlevip:

but i could be mistaken

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iamlindoro:

hatlevip: it is

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d00gster:

anyone getting 97w (FTA Galaxy5) on Mythtv?

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The_Rebel:

hmm psofa was right

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The_Rebel:

the transponders are in the multiplex table

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The_Rebel:

i just didn't give it a good go over

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psofa:

:)

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clever[rev]:

what kernel module is needed for a pvr150?

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iamlindoro:

ivtv

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clever[rev]:

yeah i got it loaded

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clever[rev]:

seems to be sucking cpu down just as allways:P

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clever[rev]:

Cpu(s): 5.7% us, 93.0% sy, 0.0% ni, 0.0% id, 0.0% wa, 0.0% hi, 1.2% si

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clever[rev]:

nearly all going towards [ivtv-enc-vbi]

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iamlindoro:

well, 5% is a bit much... ivtv people should be able to help you more though

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clever[rev]:

look at the sys%

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clever[rev]:

93% of the cpu time is spent in kernel space

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clever[rev]:

and [ivtv-enc-vbi] was eating 80% or mroe

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iamlindoro:

again, ivtv people are the ones to see about that, wouldn't know where to begin debugging it

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d00gster:

anyone getting 97w (FTA Galaxy5) on Mythtv?

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clever[rev]:

iamlindoro: and where would i fidn them?

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iamlindoro:

#ivtv

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iamlindoro:

it may be something like that

[03:54:06]

iamlindoro:

may be #ivtv-dev or whatever

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clever[rev]:

ah

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iamlindoro:

yep, that's the one :)

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iamlindoro:

be warned that sometimes it's a *very* long time before your question is answered... so be prepared to idle there for a few hours

[03:55:14]

iamlindoro:

or more

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clever[rev]:

i idle days:P

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iamlindoro:

good... you can also try their dev list to reach a wider audience... but it's Christmas, so may be a while getting it fixed

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clever[rev]:

and this card came from under the tree:P

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clever[rev]:

[17182191.968000] ivtv0: Cause: the application is not reading fast enough.

[04:09:31]

clever[rev]:

[17182192.160000] ivtv0: All encoder MPEG stream buffers are full. Dropping data.

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clever[rev]:

[17182192.168000] ivtv0: Cause: the application is not reading fast enough.

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clever[rev]:

iamlindoro: 'VBI Workaround ' from http://ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Troubleshooting feels like it may fix me

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clever[rev]:

that + reloading the ivtv module seems to have fixed it:)

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clever[rev]:

cpu usage is so damn low now!

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clever[rev]:

finaly figured out what the 1 by recordings is

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clever[rev]:

the card its using

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iamlindoro_:

yep

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iamlindoro_:

lad that sorted you out

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clever[rev]:

only noticed it changed because i now have 2 cards configured

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iamlindoro_:

er glad

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clever[rev]:

deleting the bttv from myth now

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clever[rev]:

its still using the serial ir blaster

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clever[rev]:

but that will work till i configure the ir in the card

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iamlindoro_:

Although if you give the input a name (which is optional) you can have a better tag... mine go "Master HD," "Master SD," "Master Sat," "Slave HD," And "Slave SD."

[04:31:33]

iamlindoro_:

rather than 1,2,3,4,5

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clever[rev]:

all i have right now is the bttv framegrabber and the pvr150

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iamlindoro_:

So then, rather than them being 1 and 2, you could call them "framegrabber" and "PVR-150"

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clever[rev]:

i could feed raw coax into the frame grabber to record 2 at once but it allready has trouble to begin with

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clever[rev]:

i'll just ignore the frame grabber for the moment

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iamlindoro_:

Just saying you can tag them with named rather than numbers if you like

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iamlindoro_:

er names

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clever[rev]:

yeah

[04:34:30]

clever[rev]:

2nd main problem i probly still have

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clever[rev]:

all myth progs randomly segfault near upnp

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clever[rev]:

most painfull with mythshutdown

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clever[rev]:

which runs every few mins

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clever[rev]:

and makes 400mb coredumps

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iamlindoro:

you might try running everything with -d

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clever[rev]:

-d?

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iamlindoro:

I believe that turns off uPNP autodiscovery, might be worth a shot

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clever[rev]:

ah

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clever[rev]:

but id probly have to edit mythwelcome

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clever[rev]:

so it uses -d on mythshutdown

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iamlindoro:

well, not saying it will change anything, just worth experimenting with

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clever[rev]:

yeah

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iamlindoro:

looks like it may also be possible to run mythbackend with --no-upnp

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iamlindoro:

to turn off upnp altogether

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clever[rev]:

backend only segfaults sometimes

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clever[rev]:

mythshutdown is the core problem

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clever[rev]:

http://www.pastebin.ca/831065

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clever[rev]:

that links also to a 2nd bt from mythshutdown

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GreyFoxx:

: -d only skips the popup asking for you to pick a backend

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GreyFoxx:

the upnp code and autodiscovery is still running

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clever[rev]:

ive switched over to lirc_i2c

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clever[rev]:

was on lirc_serial

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clever[rev]:

irsend: command failed: SEND_ONCE DCT2000 2

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clever[rev]:

irsend: hardware does not support sending

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tcpsyn:

Anyone know why one minute I have a Video component to mythweb, and upon a refresh, I don't?

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cesman:

no videos in the db

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tcpsyn:

was mythvideo support removed from mythweb svn

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tcpsyn:

?

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clever[rev]:

i have 2 small dotted lines down the side of my image

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clever[rev]:

near the edge but not right at it

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GreyFoxx:

tcpsyn: It's working fine in mine

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joobie:

guys im trying to find a good USB dual DVB-T tuner.. have had a look at the wiki page and there's so many – hard to know which is the best of the bunch.. can anyone help pls?

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tcpsyn:

GreyFoxx, weird. I don't even get a Video link. I did earlier... then I fixed the symlinks to point to my videos, then the Videos link dissapeared and if I just go to mythweb.myserver.com/videos I get an unkown module error

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tcpsyn:

I'm able to stream recorded videos.

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tcpsyn:

I haven't been able to stream music or mythvideo though

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tcpsyn:

Is there a seperate log for mythweb, or is it just the mythbackend.log

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tcpsyn:

All I can see is myself connect as a client in mythweb in the backend log

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tcpsyn:

I can see the video code there

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rooaus:

joobie: Did you search the mythtv-users mailing list? I don't use USB (deliberately avoided it) but if you need USB there may be some recent info there.

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tcpsyn:

I found it

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tcpsyn:

It worked until I did an update on the videos dir

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tcpsyn:

then that update cleared out the videometadata table in my db

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tcpsyn:

without data in that table, the links don't even show

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tcpsyn:

I just added a fake title

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tcpsyn:

manually

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tcpsyn:

and now the links are back

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tcpsyn:

It's the scan collection link in the Videos section of mythweb that did it

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tcpsyn:

wiped the table

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tcpsyn:

I just did it again too.

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tcpsyn:

I hit scan collection, and then it wipes the table, and gives me a "An unknown module was specified" error, and removes the Video module entirely.

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tcpsyn:

as long as I go back and put something in the videometadata table, the link comes back

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tcpsyn:

Ah. I see now.

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tcpsyn:

The settings table had to be modified for my backend, it was flipping out because it was setup like the frontend.

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tcpsyn:

now it seems to be working, but that's an interesting bug

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joobie:

rooaus, yea i did

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joobie:

rooaus, i looked thoruhg nov and dec, no info in there

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joobie:

rooaus, i have to use USB because the system is a MacMini – no PCI or other card slots available

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joobie:

anyway i have to boot

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joobie:

speak later rooaus

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joobie:

merry xmas

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stiev3:

http://pastebin.ca/831658 I'm having trouble configuring this frontend. If anyone's bored I'd appreciate their opinion on this output. Essentially I get " NVP: Prebuffer wait timed out 10 times." forever with a black screen.

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stiev3:

Would any of the errors above that indicate what a solution may be?

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tcpsyn:

that's it?

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tcpsyn:

see anything in the backend log?

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stiev3:

Checking around more, sorry for the gimp attempt at a question. Just odd that I can run myth fine on the backend and a different frontend. Yet this one gives me issues. But that chunk of output doesnt say much I guess

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tcpsyn:

you trying to do live tv, recordings, or both

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stiev3:

tcpsyn: currently, just attempting to setup another frontend. I can access the program guide, havent tested watching a recording. But liveTV lingers forever.

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stiev3:

3 available pvr150's on the backend, none in use. Works flawlessly on other systems. Trying to get relevant information from my logs (bit cloudy on this process).

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tcpsyn:

stiev3, try watching a recording, just to see if it kicks back any useful info

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lwizardl:

Hi

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tcpsyn:

hi

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lwizardl:

can someone help me get my dvb-s card working I keep getting "Error parsing parameters"

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tcpsyn:

where do you get that

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lwizardl:

when i scan for channels

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tcpsyn:

what card

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lwizardl:

id comes up a conexant cx24123/cx24109

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stiev3:

tcpsyn: ok, just started a recording and was able to watch it just fine. I'm getting a specific error I think in my log when i go to watch livetv.: http://pastebin.ca/831678

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stiev3:

that codec error.

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tcpsyn:

yeah. .. do you get that on the backend log if you use one of your frontends that works?

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tcpsyn:

lwizardl, where are you?

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tcpsyn:

geographically

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lwizardl:

us

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tcpsyn:

I saw some guy in finland with that error scanning channels on google.. but he never posted what the issue was

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lwizardl:

well i'm in the main setup

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lwizardl:

general/capture cards/video sources/input connections/channel editor

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lwizardl:

with DVB what would the channel frequency be set for?

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stiev3:

tcpsyn: oops, yeah I get it on all of them working or not.

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tcpsyn:

lwizardl, what are you scanning... qam256?

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lwizardl:

tcpsyn, no i have a dish with multiple lnb's

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tcpsyn:

stiev3, so live tv doesn't work from any frontend? or you get the messge anyway, and it works fine.

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tcpsyn:

lwizardl, oh, yah, I have no idea :)

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tcpsyn:

http://linvdr.org/mailinglists/vdr/2002/10/msg00365.html

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lwizardl:

tcpsyn, i'm pointed at satellites listed on lyngsat

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tcpsyn:

I was looking at that thread

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tcpsyn:

I never used a satellite at all.

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stiev3:

on the working frontend, I get the error too, so I guess that's not it.

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tcpsyn:

aye.

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tcpsyn:

yeah, that's not it then

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tcpsyn:

RingBuf(/home/public/data/videos/tv_shows_1/1004_20071225023101.mpg) Error: Waited 16 seconds for data, aborting.

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tcpsyn:

maybe http://www.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-commit . . . /010185.html

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tcpsyn:

stiev3, Utilities / Setup -> Setup->TV Settings->Playback (Enable realtime priority threads)

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tcpsyn:

try turning that off

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stiev3:

done. no avail

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tcpsyn:

could be a bad drive..?

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stiev3:

I read that too. Would that be the case if I have it working with this backend on other systems?

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tcpsyn:

I don't understand, I thought this was just a frontend

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stiev3:

it is. My noob interpretation of those "bad drive" mailing list posts I read was – that it could be a bad harddisk on the backend?

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stiev3:

was saying, that the backend works elsewhere, wouldn't it fail with the other frontends if that were the case.

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tcpsyn:

I was thinking bad disk on the frontend

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tcpsyn:

but, it's probably not.

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lwizard1:

any dvb-s users?

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MilhousePunkRock:

Hello everyone and happy holidays!

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MilhousePunkRock:

Volume control does nothing (other than changing the volume bar) and muting the sound does not work either. My tuner card is a Hauppauge Nova-T 500, which does not have any audio cables routed to the sound card.

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[jasper]:

hej guys, when I try to play a .mkv file I get the error that it can't find the codec pack

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[jasper]:

I know .mkv playback isn't very smooth

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[jasper]:

but it should at least be able to open it right?

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[jasper]:

internal player using\

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tank-man:

why would .mkv be not smooth?

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[jasper]:

because the lpayer is messed up with mkv ?

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[jasper]:

2007-12–25 12:28:51.258 AFD Error: Could not find codec parameters. file was "/h ome/mythtv/videos/Series/Planet Earth/planet.earth.s01e01.720p.hdtv.x264-hv.mkv" .

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[jasper]:

2007-12–25 12:28:51.258 Couldn't open decoder for: /home/mythtv/videos/Series/Pl

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[jasper]:

getting that error

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[jasper]:

could not find codec parameters

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[jasper]:

while mplayer can find them? they both use ffmpeg right?

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BULLE:

no

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tank-man:

i havent made any mkv files before

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BULLE:

and i bet they dont include the same release of ffmpeg

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[jasper]:

so how can I get the internal player to play .mkv then?

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[jasper]:

hmm

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BULLE:

dont

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BULLE:

use mplayer

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[jasper]:

any way to update the realease used by mythtv?

[12:10:09]

BULLE:

no, not realy

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BULLE:

unless you want to start using svn code i guess

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[jasper]:

hmm that's evil

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BULLE:

yes

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BULLE:

so just use mplayer

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th1:

hi, I've installed mythtv 0.20 for ubuntu now I have installed the Streaming plugin and can listen to music channels with Shoutcast, is there anyway for me to record the music to a file?

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root_:

RE these log outputs: http://pastebin.ca/831678 .. My frontend gives me a black screen and prebuffering time outs forever. Just now discovered that once it starts showing timeouts, if I switch channels, it works. Any ideas?

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root_:

woops. forgot to configure irc

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stiev3:

anyway, this issue only occurs during liveTV watching, I'm able to watch and manage recordings without issue. LiveTV gives me prebuffer timeouts until I send a channel change.

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rudy_:

anyone here familiar with sasc-ng and NA dvb-s ?

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rudy_:

"N2Prov0106: missing MECM 01 key"

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code-r:

im having problem with the latest v4l dvb drivers. My NOVA-S-PLUS will no longer lock on.

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GreyFoxx:

rudy_: We don't support any softcam stuff nor discussion on it's use

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clever[rev]:

ive got a pvr-150 but cant seem to get the ir blaster to work

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clever[rev]:

havent tried the receiver yet

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code-r:

clever[rev]: last i used the ir blaster for my 150 had ot be patched with a special lirc

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clever[rev]:

ahh

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clever[rev]:

how about just mixing

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clever[rev]:

1 lircd for my serial ir blaster

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code-r:

clever[rev]: see http://www.blushingpenguin.com/mark/blog/?p=24

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clever[rev]:

and a 2nd to receive thru thr pvr-150

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code-r:

clever[rev]: irblaster != ir reciever

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clever[rev]:

the cable for the pvr-150 has both:P

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code-r:

clever[rev]: ir receiver works fine with stock drivers

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code-r:

clever[rev]: but it only works with happauge codes (needs firmware)

[16:08:02]

clever[rev]:

so now i just need to link the 2 lircd's into a single socket

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code-r:

clever[rev]: the BLASTER needs some special patches last time i looked (see above)

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code-r:

clever[rev]: why would u want to do that?

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clever[rev]:

i have a working blaster on the serial port

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code-r:

so, use it

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clever[rev]:

but i also want the receiver to work

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code-r:

receiver?

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code-r:

what receiver

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clever[rev]:

the ir receiver in the pvr 150 cord

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code-r:

ok

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code-r:

why

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code-r:

it sux :-P

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clever[rev]:

http://www.snapstream.com/images/store/PVR-150_IR_Blaster.jpg

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clever[rev]:

it clearly has 2 ends to it:P

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code-r:

yes

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code-r:

a blaster and a receiver

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clever[rev]:

and i dont have any other receiver to use

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code-r:

i though u had a serial

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clever[rev]:

the serial is blast only

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code-r:

oooooooooooo

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code-r:

-> http://www.blushingpenguin.com/mark/blog/?p=24

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code-r:

thats the stuff to get the pvr150 blaster working

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clever[rev]:

i can just use the serial blaster

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clever[rev]:

and a 2nd lircd for the pvr receiver

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clever[rev]:

but i dont know how to connect the 2 together so it functions on 1 socket

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code-r:

ok then this is beyond me...

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clever[rev]:

lol:)

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code-r:

i just want me dvb-s to lcok again!

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rushfan:

Anyone here have an HDHomeRun?

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BULLE:

nope

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d00gster:

guys, I got a nexus-s dvb card and when I do scanning It locks on the transponders and scanns the channels, when I run Mthtv, I get partial_lock message on my screen

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rushfan:

HDHOmeRun DTV tuner box doesnt show up in Card Type

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frahi:

Hi all, I have the following problem: When I try to view some channels, it displays 'no lock' and a black screen, followed by a message that this channel cannot be displayed

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frahi:

these channels work, when I use mencoder to record then

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frahi:

I think the following log entry is the problem: [mpegts @ 0xb73ea8b0]Parser not found for Codec Id: 94211 !

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frahi:

do I just need another decoder package?

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clever[rev]:

i have 2 inputs on my card going to the same channel set

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clever[rev]:

the tuner and the composite

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rushfan:

Hey, I have 3 TV tuners, one analog and two digital

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rushfan:

However, right now I can only watch stuff from the anlog tuner

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clever[rev]:

how would i setup the tuner to record the analog channels?

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jedix:

magic.

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jedix:

use magic

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rushfan:

like I set the digital one up, but when I flip through the channels in 'watch tv' only the analog ones are there

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rushfan:

Anyone know how I solve that one?

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Hilikus:

hey guys

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Hilikus:

when i use mytharchive, is there some kind of batch script that gets created with every necessary operation in it?

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drcphd:

A bluetooth dongle + PS3 remote shouldn't be a problem for myth?

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code-r:

any one here use nova-s-plus?

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Hilikus:

is there anything random (non-deterministic) in the mytharchive process?? everytime i run it it crashes but it crashes at different stages, first it was ffmpeg then it was mythreplex...

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Hilikus:

it sucks, it takes like 3 hours to crash!!

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Hilikus:

is there a way i can resume it?? or like manually skip some processes to skip the ones that worked??

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Hilikus:

oh btw, the first time it crashed processing the second video, the second time that SAME second video worked fine and it crashed processing the 5th video

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Hilikus:

i dont understand

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BULLE:

Hilikus: sounds a bit like you are having hardware problems

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BULLE:

Hilikus: what does the crash look like ?

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BULLE:

Hilikus: whats the logged error ?

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Hilikus:

the second time it was, buffer overrun when running mythreplex

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Hilikus:

the first time i didnt see

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BULLE:

hard to tell then

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BULLE:

i usualy have a pretty hard time with mytharchive aswell

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Hilikus:

do you know if there is any way to resume the process??

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BULLE:

but for me it just produces non working discs =)

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BULLE:

not that i know of

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Hilikus:

damn!!

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BULLE:

yeah, kind of sumarizes what i think aswell

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Hilikus:

there must be a manual way to do it, mythburn.pl just calls scripts

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BULLE:

sure you can do it all manualy, with the tools

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BULLE:

just dont ask me how

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Hilikus:

it would be nice if it created just 1 script with all the operations line by line and ran that, that way you could resume it by commenting out the lines that succeded

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Hilikus:

fix the specific problem and keep going

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Hilikus:

its killing me the fact that i have to rerun it, takes 8937493 hours and it crashes

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BULLE:

yeah

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Hilikus:

lets see what crashes this time

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Hilikus:

i cant use the tools myself, theres just too many parameters that i dont know

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Hilikus:

the whole resolution for NTSC, audio quality, etc etc

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BULLE:

its a bit tricky yes

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atiedemann:

hi, I've a ATI Radeon HD 2400, has someone use this card?

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hasse:

hello, im using the mythbuntu nightly builds, anyone know how to get myth plugins to work again, im getting *plugin was compiled agains libmyth version: 0.21.20071202–1, but the installed is 0.21.20071211–1 ??

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Daviey:

hasse: which mirror?

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Mobius_thought:

So what are you all using? I just installed MythDora.. looks pretty cool

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Savi1:

yes I'm using MythDora too, worked better than knoppmyth and mythbuntu

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Savi1:

but for my planned, full-blown setup

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Savi1:

it will definitely be something more custom

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hacosta_:

anyone using mythtv with coolsat as an input?

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darkfrog:

Hey guys, I'm trying to set key bindings for my ATI Remote Wonder II and most keys work, but in MythTV setting the keys for certain things doesn't work because it says it's an unknown key...how do I bind it to an actual key so myth will like it?

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darkfrog:

The remote wonder is USB RF and I thought it was using lirc, but it may be using the kernel module

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mzb:

darkfrog: probably evdev (like keyboard input)

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mzb:

most distros have tools for customising "keyboard shortcuts" (eg. multimedia keys)

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EnderTheThird:

Don't you hate it when you offer to fix a relative's dead computer and then just cringe at the sight of all the shitware on there?

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mzb:

:)

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EnderTheThird:

I lost count of the amount of porn I've removed.

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mzb:

my new charging scheme seems to have halted that :)

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EnderTheThird:

Heh, I partially get my way because I'm dual-booting Ubuntu when I give it back to him. And Ubuntu is going to boot by default.

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EnderTheThird:

That way he can download all his music and porn without getting malware that will dick his computer over again.

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rushfan:

anyone here have an HDHomeRun?

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rushfan:

Im having some trouble

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EnderTheThird:

rushfan: i do

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rushfan:

EnderTheThird: mind helping me?

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rushfan:

I set mine up, and configured it, and it scanned the channels fine

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EnderTheThird:

rushfan: what's it doin?

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rushfan:

But I cant actually watch any. MythTV says its currently using all available inputs if I type in the channel name (say 3.1)

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rushfan:

which is ridiculous, because I have two tuners and Im not even recording

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rushfan:

I followed the guide that SiliconDust linked to

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EnderTheThird:

Hmmm, channels are showing up in guide and everything too though huh?

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rushfan:

Yes

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rushfan:

I tried turning the box on and off

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EnderTheThird:

restarting mythbackend? "sudo /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend restart"

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EnderTheThird:

I think that's the command. Might be some other "mythtv...." at the end though

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rushfan:

Yup I tried that

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rushfan:

/etc/init.d/mythbackend restart

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EnderTheThird:

What does mythweb say? does it show the tuner as available?

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rushfan:

Umm, how do I get to mythweb?

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rushfan:

Ive never used it. Not sure if I even have it installed :|

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EnderTheThird:

You on the BE now?

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rushfan:

Yes

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EnderTheThird:

localhost/mythweb in your browser

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rushfan:

My backend logs dont even show anything blatently wrong either

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rushfan:

EnderTheThird: page isnt valid :|

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EnderTheThird:

Very useful plugin, worth installing if you don't already have it. Much easier to set recordings via the mythweb interface than through the frontend interface (assuming you have M&KB hooked up)

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rushfan:

I will install it

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EnderTheThird:

Ok. If you go into info center on the frontend, what status does it give your tuners?

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rushfan:

Is says Tuner 1 is not recording, Tuner 2 is unavailable, Tuner 3 is unavailable, Tuner 4 is unavailable

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rushfan:

but I only have 3 tuners :|

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rushfan:

Well Tuners 3 and 4 are the two HDHomeRun tuners

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rushfan:

Does it make a difference that I used the wildcard "FFFFFFFF"?

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EnderTheThird:

It shoudn't, but it wouldn't hurt to specify

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rushfan:

So like, any idea?

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rushfan:

I could post in the mythtv talk forum, and later ask SiliconDust for help if I have no luck

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EnderTheThird:

Also, sometimes mythbackend starts up before your network is initialized (mine does it), so my HDHR tuners aren't recognized when it logs in. That's why I usually have to manually restart the backend to show the tuners

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rushfan:

I think Ill also try with my mythbuntu livecd

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rushfan:

I could try rebooting. Sometime my PVR-150 driver gets hung up

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rushfan:

that could be the issue :|

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EnderTheThird:

"sudo /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend restart" just for shits and giggles

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rushfan:

EnderTheThird: I already did that a bunch of times

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rushfan:

but for good measure

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iamlindoro:

Before you start posting anywhere (where you're bound to be stuck waiting for answers) you might also try removing the tuner cards and re-adding them

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rushfan:

still no luck

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EnderTheThird:

well your tuner 3 and 4 shouldn't be unavailable like that, heh

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rushfan:

iamlindoro: yeah maybe I should just start over

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iamlindoro:

At the very least it will sort out your tuner numbering by clearing the encoders out

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iamlindoro:

and as long as you don't delete your lineups, just the tuner cards, you won't even lose any recording rules or schedules

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rushfan:

hdhomerun device 101104DC found at 10.0.0.8 --> No problems there

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iamlindoro:

Ooooh, it's Doctor Who Christmas Special day...

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EnderTheThird:

haha

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rushfan:

Can you delete specific capture cards instead of all of them?

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iamlindoro:

nope, gotta do em all

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EnderTheThird:

(un)fortunately, I haven't had much trouble with my HDHR, so I'm not very helpful with troubleshooting. But like iamlindoro said, redoing the config wouldn't hurt

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iamlindoro:

but again, just don't delete your channel lineups and you won't lose anything so long as you recreate 'em properly

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rushfan:

Yeah Im supririsng this thing is giving me trouble liek this :|

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iamlindoro:

Weird for sure... Only reason I recommend it is I had a similar trouble when first bringing my slave backend online... I had "phantom" encoders" that myth thought was there but weren't... and I onl;y got it all working by clearing out the tuners cards

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iamlindoro:

er tuner cards

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fryfrog:

i've seen that, also it makes it so you don't have like tuner 1, 2, 5, 6 :p

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iamlindoro:

hehe

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EnderTheThird:

Anyone remember how to check HDDs for bad sectors via Linux/CLI? I dont' feel like searching all over for Samsung's software to do it

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iamlindoro:

actually right now I technically have tuners 1,3,4,5,6 instead of 1–5... but I can live with that since it doesn't actually try to use #2

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EnderTheThird:

My cousin's HDD is performing like crap and I'd like to see if it's fragmentation or shitty sectors slowing it down before I reload the same HDD

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rushfan:

So I dont need to rescan for channels?

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EnderTheThird:

Yeah, the numbering is weird like that sometimes. I think it keeps them in the MySQL db somewhere even after they're deleted unless you clear all, because I had it start at Tuner 5 when I backed up my DB and restored it with a new Mythbuntu install.

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iamlindoro:

rushfan: shouldn't... just attach the same lineups to the same inputs and it *should* come back up just as before

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iamlindoro:

YMMV

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rushfan:

alright, lets have a gander

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rushfan:

This is interesting

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EnderTheThird:

Anyone else finding themselves pouring through old recordings now with the WGA strike?

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rushfan:

EnderTheThird: I did an nmap on the device, and it came up as All 1711 scanned ports on 10.0.0.8 are closed

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rushfan:

Before it displayed the mac address and what not w/o complaining :|

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rushfan:

could be my routers fault maybe?

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hashbang:

2

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EnderTheThird:

Hmm, that's odd

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EnderTheThird:

Have you ever gotten it to work?

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iamlindoro:

EnderTheThird: Yup... sucks.. and come Jan 1 we are getting deluged with reality SHIT like American Gladiators and who wants to fellate a millionaire or whatever

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rushfan:

EnderTheThird: theres one green led on the front

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rushfan:

is that right?

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rushfan:

No, I just got it

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EnderTheThird:

"Who Wants to Fellate a Millionaire"..... I think you might be onto something there

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iamlindoro:

Hehehe

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rushfan:

EnderTheThird: now none of the tuners work

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rushfan:

I think mythtv has gone crazy

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iamlindoro:

Depends the millionaire

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rushfan:

EnderTheThird: how can I watch TV on the HDHomeRun with mplayer?

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EnderTheThird:

rushfan: Maybe plug your HDHR into a different port on your router.

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rushfan:

Cause my PVR-150 works fine w/ mplayer

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rushfan:

backend has just gone crazy

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EnderTheThird:

rushfan: never tried. You'd probably have to check SiliconDust's site for instructions.

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EnderTheThird:

rushfan: and if all else fails, you could backup the SQL db and reinstall. I've done that once and didn't have any trouble.

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rushfan:

EnderTheThird: Im going to try a restart cause I think a driver or somethign conked out somewhere

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rushfan:

EnderTheThird: how many LEDs should I see on the front of the HDHomeRun?

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rushfan:

Right now I see 1

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rushfan:

To the far left

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EnderTheThird:

1 what?

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rushfan:

1 green LED

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rushfan:

lit up on the front of the HDHomeRun

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EnderTheThird:

Oh, got ya.

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EnderTheThird:

There are 4 LEDs, I believe

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EnderTheThird:

Far left is power, then network, then tuner 1 and tuner 2

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rushfan:

4 LEDs? Shit

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rushfan:

Well no, I have two

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EnderTheThird:

But the last 3 are in one area and the power is in another

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rushfan:

Power and network

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rushfan:

Yeah, I have the power and network LEDs

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rushfan:

so all is good thereI guess

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rushfan:

reboot time

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EnderTheThird:

ok

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rushfan:

then mythbuntu live disc

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EnderTheThird:

Hmmm, just wish I knew why they were unavail when you can still ping/discover the damned thing.

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rushfan:

Well, mythtv has just gone crazy in general

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rushfan:

how can I wipe out the mysql database?

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EnderTheThird:

You want to wipe it out?!?!

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EnderTheThird:

It can't be regenerated, you'll lose your recordings (or at least any info about them).

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EnderTheThird:

The mpg files will still be there, but they'll just be numbered files

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rushfan:

EnderTheThird: yes Im going t owipe it for sure

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rushfan:

I just renamed all my recordings anyhow

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EnderTheThird:

Got ya

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EnderTheThird:

http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Backup_your_database That's for backing up

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rushfan:

I guess Il backup in case, but I think its better to start w/ a fresh database

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EnderTheThird:

probably similar for removing. just "remove mythconverg" or something similar once you're in mysql

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EnderTheThird:

http://www.pantz.org/software/mysql/mysqlcommands.html

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EnderTheThird:

drop database mythconverg

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EnderTheThird:

That should do it once you're in mysql

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rushfan:

Yeah, got it

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rushfan:

thanks

[22:45:35]

anykey_:

Anyone seen all characters being squares in mythtv-setup?

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anykey_:

like this: http://www1.coe.neu.edu/~dlippman/mythtv-setup.JPG

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EnderTheThird:

rushfan: you using Mythbuntu?

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EnderTheThird:

anykey_: nope. that's a first for me. ???

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rushfan:

No, Gentoo

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EnderTheThird:

rushfan: Ah. Cause I do highly recommend Mythbuntu, especially for Myth-only machines (non-desktop use). It's ridiculously easy to use.

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rushfan:

Yeah but this is a desktop

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EnderTheThird:

Or if you use it with a desktiop, the mythbuntu-control-centre is great too. but if you use Gentoo for desktop, it's probably not worth the switch, heh

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EnderTheThird:

Oh how I hate myself for listening to Christmas music right now.

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fryfrog:

"drop"

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fryfrog:

if you are talking mysqladmin

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EnderTheThird:

fryfog, welcome! lol

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rushfan:

man this HVR-1600 on windows is a massive PITA

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rushfan:

Im doing it for my brother

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Toxicity999:

Anyone else experiencing random points in playback when the audio drops out and the video plays fast? Trunk as well.

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doc__:

hi there

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EnderTheThird:

yo

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rushfan:

EnderTheThird: my theory is the HDHomeRun ahde to have worked w/ mythtv at some point if it was able to scan all the channels

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rushfan:

something must've happened before I could view any though

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roothorick:

how much RAM should a MythTV machine have?

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BULLE:

roothorick: 512 i would say

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BULLE:

roothorick: you might get awaywith less if you streamline the setup

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BULLE:

but 512 and you are definitively safe

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BULLE:

imho

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roothorick:

so I can probably get away with 256?

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BULLE:

hmmmm, i dont have my myth machine running now

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roothorick:

I just discovered that the spare machine I was going to install Myth on has at least one bad stick of RAM

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roothorick:

possibly two

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BULLE:

well, just pull the bad stick then, and see how it works

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BULLE:

i mean, with just X and mythfrontend running, and no windowmanager or desktop crap running, X doesnt take that much ram

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roothorick:

and if it's both suspects, then I'm stuck with 256MB unless I feel like forking out $$$$ for DDR1

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BULLE:

and then its mysql and the backend

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BULLE:

im just talking out of my ass, but hey, 256mb might just work

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roothorick:

5% into testing the 512MB stick, and no errors, looks promising

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roothorick:

I'm ticked though, because I have to start my Gentoo install all over now because of that bad RAM

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Beirdo:

that's what backups are for

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roothorick:

if this stick checks out, it's guaranteed at least 768MB

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roothorick:

Beirdo: you generally don't make backups when you're in the middle of installing an OS

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Beirdo:

heh, true that

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Beirdo:

I guess we learn to run memtest on RAM before trusting it? :)

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roothorick:

true

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roothorick:

I'm running memtest now

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Beirdo:

not that I bother usually myself

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roothorick:

heh

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roothorick:

and my network is in the "backups? You think we can AFFORD backups?" camp

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roothorick:

right now

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hacosta__:

anyone knows if mythtv works fine with coolsat?

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Beirdo:

heh

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roothorick:

this machine has been a real project

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roothorick:

I'm working with plenty of flaky hardware

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Beirdo:

there are DVD-R based backup solutions that could well save yer butt later though

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Beirdo:

not to mention tape :)

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roothorick:

tape is way too damn expensive

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roothorick:

and I'm not shelling out for DVD-Rs every month

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Beirdo:

heh

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Beirdo:

I have been backing up to DDS3 for years now

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rushfan:

EnderTheThird: if it can scan QAM channels do that mean I have them?

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roothorick:

I actually looked into tape solutions

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roothorick:

the drives are way out of my league

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Beirdo:

I want to upgrade to DLT sometime

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rushfan:

my damn HVR-1600 on the windows PC wont play QAM channels either. wtf

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roothorick:

half my network is worth the price of a single tape drive

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fryfrog:

Beirdo: you get a good deal on the drive someplace?

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Beirdo:

on DDS3, fryfrog? The drives are cheap

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fryfrog:

ah

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Beirdo:

on DLT... I'm waiting still.

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fryfrog:

capacity?

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rushfan:

backend sohuld b estopped when running mythtv-setup, right?

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Beirdo:

12G native, I think. 24G compressed.

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Beirdo:

I'd have to go check, but that's what runs in my memory

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fryfrog:

oh, so i guess you only archive really important stuff

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fryfrog:

i use teh poor mans backup

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fryfrog:

raid1 for system, important stuff also goes to raid5 array :p

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Beirdo:

using amanda to spread the backups around, you get full and incrementals mixed on a tape

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fryfrog:

i occasionally burn stuff off to DVD

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Beirdo:

and I compress with gzip before writing to tape

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roothorick:

...hey

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roothorick:

hell, I could afford a DDS3 drive

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Beirdo:

yeah, if you are careful with how you backup, DDS2 is better than squat

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Beirdo:

er DDS3

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Beirdo:

DDS2 is way too small for most :)

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rushfan:

Hey, if I have an ATSC tuner and an NTSC tuner

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rushfan:

What do I select for TV Format in general setup?

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iamlindoro_:

presuming you want to use the ATSC functionality, DVB type

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iamlindoro_:

probably

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rushfan:

DVB type?

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iamlindoro_:

oh, excuse me

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rushfan:

Yeah I want to use both functionalities

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iamlindoro_:

sorry, was thinking card type

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iamlindoro_:

is it coming in OTA or QAM?

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rushfan:

Oh, no card type is HDHomeRun

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rushfan:

QAM

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** rushfan smacks damn HVR-1600 **

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iamlindoro_:

US-Cable, presuming US

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rushfan:

QAM is proving to be nothing but a PITA

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rushfan:

:|

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iamlindoro_:

QAM is good stuff assuming you get good signal

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rushfan:

iamlindoro_: Im just having problems setting it up

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rushfan:

I have an HDHomeRun and an HVR-1600

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rushfan:

neither of them are working very good

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rushfan:

my signal strenght is like 85%

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iamlindoro_:

yeah, if you're QAM in the US, then you will *probably* with a few exceptions set it to us-cable and QAM-256

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rushfan:

Ok, I'll see if that option is there

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rushfan:

iamlindoro_: and for the record even though Hauppage only officials supports windows their cards are god awful to use on windows

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rushfan:

Like the software/drivers they give you are horrendouis

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iamlindoro_:

I'm aware ;)

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rushfan:

But right now Im working with the HDHomerun on mythtv

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rushfan:

iamlindoro_: I dont even know how to bloody get QAM to work. Or anything for that matter

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iamlindoro_:

Heh, well rather soon now we ought to have decent hvr-1600 support in linux, so... :)

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rushfan:

yeah but my bro uses windows

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rushfan:

I might just tell him to return the blooody card its so awful

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rushfan:

Or pirate sagetv :|

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rushfan:

CAuse gb-pvr is complete crap too

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