Beirdobot, irc.freenode.net

Thursday, December 20th, 2007, 00:00 UTC

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clever:

random pixels on the right/bottom edge?

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Iolaus:

iamlindoro: I added in your blur and NR and it's a bit better

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robbins61:

anyone familiar with pulseaudio?

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Iolaus:

iamlindoro: when experimenting with software scaler make sure to add the scale option to your filter chain. It appears without that the swscaler only performs a color space conversion and doesn't actually do any scaling

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Iolaus:

in fact, I think before even OpenGL was only scaling to 854x480 so I think the rest was being done by my video card (which would probably explain why it looked so crappy)

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mzb:

robbins61: vaguely ,,, gave up on it after a while

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robbins61:

mzb, i'm just trying to assign volume up/down to my media buttons on my laptop

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mzb:

nothing to do with pulseaudio

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clever:

robbins61: does the 'xev' program even hear those buttons?

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bsdfox_:

hehe forgot to compile lvm2.. compiling stuff on a p2–450 sucks

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robbins61:

what is xev?

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clever:

robbins61: a X debug helper

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robbins61:

oh, no i dea

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robbins61:

idea

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mzb:

robbins61: google/linux for "multimedia keys howto"

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clever:

robbins61: it will pretty much print out EVERY X event it gets(keys and mouse)

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robbins61:

i mean, i have an Xmodmap setup that worked well before i switched over to fedora 8

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robbins61:

i have the keys functional, i just need to assign them to pulse

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clever:

robbins61: you could turn the up/down buttons into [ and ] which myth uses for volume in most windows

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clever:

robbins61: then it would just change the volume thru mythtv

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robbins61:

i use this laptop for more than just myth, is the thing

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clever:

ah

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clever:

find a cli prog to do it then

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mzb:

robbins61: nothing to do with pulseaudio

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** clever finds an example **

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robbins61:

mzb, what?

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clever:

i8kbuttons -u "aumix -v +10" .....

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mzb:

multimedia keys are nothing to do with pulseaudio

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clever:

that prog is meant to be used for the keys on a dell

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clever:

robbins61: you could tie your volume up in gnome to run aumix -v +10

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robbins61:

mzb, i know it doesn't...you odn't understand what i'm asking

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robbins61:

in kmix, you could click the command you wanted, in my case, volume up...then i'd push the volume up button

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robbins61:

and it would assign that key to volume up

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robbins61:

that's all i'm wondering, i know the keys work

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mzb:

there should be a "Keyboard shortcuts" or similar in your system->preferences

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clever:

yeah ive seen that in gnome

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robbins61:

i'm in KDE

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clever:

but i dont think it can be used to run just any prog

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clever:

i used gconf-editor to link key comboes to programs

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mzb:

robbins61: shame :) ... oh well, back to google like I suggested before

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robbins61:

alright, perhaps i'll just ditch pulse and go back to arts and kmix

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mzb:

arrgghhh!

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mzb:

I give up

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clever:

at?

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mzb:

repeating myself

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clever:

lol

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mzb:

on that note, time to look for something that makes me look busy ... woman on the prowl

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Hilikus:

how do i import icons into mythtv? i have a dir with .gifs with the icons already

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mzb:

I assume you mean channel icons: have a look at the channel table in the db, there's a field that is used for the full path to each icon

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clever:

and there should be an xml file linking channels to icons that mythfilldb can use

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Hilikus:

does it import the gifs to the db somehow or i need to have them in a special dir in my machine?

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Egghead:

i keep hanging on bttv: using 8 buffers, during boot up, in think its the onboard sound card, alc861vd chipset, if i disable it in bios everything works fine, any ideas?

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Hilikus:

i need to know the format of the icons xml file

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Hilikus:

ok, i fgound it

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Davo_Dinkum:

Just pointing out a small typo on: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/DViCO_Fu . . . Installation

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Davo_Dinkum:

"Press it again and it sould kill the process." should, not 'sould'

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Hilikus:

mkiconmap.pl doesnt like canadian postal codes, what should i use?

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Der_Thomas:

Hi, just wondering if anyone knows why Mythweb does not show any weather info? Is it due to the Myth weather re-vamp?

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javatexan:

is there an easy way in perl to prepare a filename for bash...backslash the spaces....etc

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Der_Thomas:

s/ /\/ /

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Der_Thomas:

I think that will change the spaces to \space

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Der_Thomas:

actually: s/ /\\ /

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Der_Thomas:

it is s/text to replace/text that replaces/ and you have to esc the \ with a \

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clever:

javatexan: just a " on either side normaly does it for you

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clever:

javatexan: like "some spaces in the filename"

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javatexan:

k..thanks

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clever:

only thing to realy be carefull about is if it has a " in it

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clever:

or ends with a \

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clever:

may wind up like "name to " mess things up\"

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bsdfox_:

ick.. do I NEED ivtv package?

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bsdfox_:

I have auto module loading on and lsmod shows cx2341x 11588 1 ivtv and v4l2_common 16800 3 ivtv,cx2341x,videodev etc

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GreyFoxx:

It';s now part of the kernel, previously it wasn't

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bsdfox_:

problem is I don't have any /dev/video* devices

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bsdfox_:

:\

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iamlindoro:

wtf was that hit-and-run "Oh I noticed a typo in the wiki???" It's a fucking *wiki*... FIX IT!

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manwich:

Hi, I'm considering working on a MythTV project, however I'm still a bit confused about it. I've been reading a lot about HDCP and other various DRM and encryption problems, and I have a few questions about this. I'm a comcast customer, and I was wondering, is it even possible to get a fully functional HD setup with Comcast and MythTV? First of all, I read a post in 2004 that firewire access would be required in April. Is this

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manwich:

the case and is this the only way to get HD from comcast? Can you do without the box, and can you control the box through firewire? These are probably stupid questions but I can't seem to find straightforward answers in the documentation.

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BULLE_:

manwich: i wouldnt call them stupid at all

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BULLE_:

manwich: anyway, i live in europe, so i dont have any idea what the answer is

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BULLE_:

manwich: here they all use dvb, so its standardized hardware, and its a bit fiddly, but you can get hd out from most cable/satellite/terrestial companies

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manwich:

BULLE_: Ahh, ok, thanks anyway

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BULLE_:

manwich: but questions about stb, firewire and myth, do pop up now and then, so you are not alone in asking

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BULLE_:

manwich: googled and looked at the myth wiki ?

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manwich:

BULLE: yea, I've found a lot of posts about it and whatnot, but none which answer my sorta basic questions. I checked the official MythTV docs, but not the wiki

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manwich:

BULLE_: I'll try searching that for some help

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manwich:

BULLE_: doh, here's a firewire cablebox compatibility list, but the results seem varied. Some problems premium channels such as HBO which I would need to get working, and 5c encryption, which I haven't figured out yet.

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manwich:

BULLE_: One guy says they refused to give him a firewire box O_o. Only one person says he has everything working but he says he has quality issues!

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GreyFoxx:

manwich: in the use the situation is basically that if you have cable/asettop box they are required to provide you one if you request it. If they refuse you can complain to the FCC

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GreyFoxx:

they are obligated to let you access all of the local HDTV stations via firewire without encryption

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GreyFoxx:

but nothing more

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GreyFoxx:

So it comes down to if they follow the rules

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bsdfox_:

uh, my devices should be /dev/video[0–2] right?

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manwich:

GreyFoxx: so premium channels are unlikely to be provided? just local?

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GreyFoxx:

manwich: pretty much

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BULLE_:

he, is it true that some poor sod actualy comes home to you and install the darn set top box ?

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GreyFoxx:

manwich: they are not obligated to do more than the local ones

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BULLE_:

atleast thats the impression i get from reading on the wiki

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GreyFoxx:

manwich: If you are lucky you can get more, but it's a roll of the dice

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manwich:

GreyFoxx: Ugh, i suspected as much >.<. This whole media encryption craze is extremely depressing

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GreyFoxx:

depending on where you arfe you might get some HDTV freely over the air

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** GreyFoxx hugs his cableco for making everything available **

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** BULLE_ hughs europe for making everything available **

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manwich:

BULLE: yea, around here they send technicians out for basic tasks

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BULLE_:

manwich: jikes, that doesnt happen here

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BULLE_:

i guess you might pay shitloads of cash for it if you realy want it

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BULLE_:

and they will then basicly just refer you to some local tv/electronics store

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manwich:

GreyFoxx: Out of curiosity which company are you using?

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GreyFoxx:

EAstlink (Not in the US)

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manwich:

GreyFoxx: :-/

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GreyFoxx:

manwich: They are quite enlightened when it comes to this stuff

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manwich:

GreyFoxx: I can't watch the dvd I bought without paying to decrypt it, I can't use the HDTV service I'm paying for without paying for their box to decrypt it, I can't play a game I've payed for without installing intrusive copy protection software, and Comcast won't even let me use the internet connectiong I pay for to seed a torrent without sending forged RST packets to close my outgoing connections.

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manwich:

WTF has gotten into people lately

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GreyFoxx:

hehe yeah

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manwich:

I've been thinking about switching to a net neutral internet provider, but I may need to move out of the country to get a sane cable TV company, rofl

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GreyFoxx:

hehe

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GreyFoxx:

We're even allowed to rip our mp3's ;)

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manwich:

damn!

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manwich:

Well, thanks for the help, I may try out MythTV as an experiment someday, but I think I'll put it off for now.

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manwich:

Maybe when I move haha

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dserban:

He should move to Canada...

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dserban:

Well, meh that may not be a good idea soon 'nuff

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bsdfox_:

exportfs: Warning: /home/store does not support NFS export.

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bsdfox_:

wtf? you can't export XFS filesystems?

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BULLE_:

bsdfox_: you surely can

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bsdfox_:

it works fine when it's ext3 :P /home/store 192.168.0.0/24(async,no_root_squash,no_subtree_check,rw)

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BULLE_:

bsdfox_: but atleast in the past, it has been, a not very good thing to do, it made many kernels unstable, and crashy etc

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BULLE_:

bsdfox_: perhaps they disabled it in your kernel or something ? or some of the export flags are not supported on xfs ?

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bsdfox_:

that's lame

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GreyFoxx:

there is no kernel option I know off to stop that

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GreyFoxx:

all of my filesystems are xfs and I have tons of nfs exports/moujnts in my network

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GreyFoxx:

and have for several years

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BULLE_:

yes, you should be able to export xfs filesystems

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Toxicity999:

okay, I have myth running from a statx call via rc.local, I have made sure to have lirc started damned early on, S runlevel. but when it starts X and myth at rc.local, and it loads, no Remote input accepted... killing X and reissuing startx, it's all fine... any thoughts?

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bsdfox_:

GreyFoxx: do you use "delete files slowly"? seems like it sucks to me

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clever:

GreyFoxx: can you do uid maping with the nfs-kernel-server?

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clever:

Toxicity999: you could add a line to rc.local to start lirc again to be shure

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Toxicity999:

right but that's messy.

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Toxicity999:

think I nailed it, my x11-common S level moved on me.

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clever:

my snmpd binds to a vpn interface

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clever:

which doesnt exist at snmp start time

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clever:

so i have a /etc/init.d/snmpd start in my rc.local

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clever:

after creating the vpn

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blizzow:

My recordings are not showing up in the select a recording to watch menut. Although, when I go to the /var/lib/mythtv/recordings directory, it looks as though the recordings are there. Also, is there a way to play a .nuv file without the myth frontend?

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defaultro:

hi folks, I need some help regarding iso and hddvd format. I burned an .iso file that use evo container. http://www.nopaste.com/p/a0BqSLBR8

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defaultro:

I have other .ts files that I would like to make the same format shown. How do I do it?

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defaultro:

do i just mkisofs it?

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clever:

blizzow: hit m in the recording list and try changing to the all programs or livetv filters

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clever:

blizzow: you can also play most files by using the 'mythtv' program as a player

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anenigma:

i've heard writes suffer under software raid5. i'm thinking of setting up a 3-tuner system, with 2 tuners able to do hidef and the last only doing standard. is software raid5 still a viable option for recording all 3 at once, or will i need more i/o bandwidth?

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GreyFoxx:

unless you are using a slow pc or slow drives you will be fine

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fryfrog:

anenigma: HD is only like 2mb/sec, SD is way less than that.

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fryfrog:

anenigma: even a single hard drive can keep up with 2–3 streams.

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Toxicity999:

What does lirc need to be started before to properly work with things... I have it starting before X and then obviously myth as well... but it still doesn't work at boot, restarting X kicks it though.

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fryfrog:

but for comparison, I have done 4 SD streams to software raid5, 4 drives in a 1600+

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fryfrog:

also have done 4 HD streams to 5 drives on a 3000+

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fryfrog:

and now do 2 SD and 1 HD to 8 drives on a dual xeon 2.4ghz

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tank-man:

you guys like tv too much if you are using raid5 :)

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loops:

ironic event of the day.. my myth setup just crashed while watching Myth Busters....

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fryfrog:

tank-man: my raid5 is only a small portion of what i store :)

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fryfrog:

it is very nice to be able to suffer a drive failure w/o data loss.

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fryfrog:

and survive i have, 2 of them.

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iamlindoro:

hmm, in SVN Playback profiles, how does one go about activating the lanzcos swscaler?

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iamlindoro:

tried putting it into the filter string, but that doesn't appear to be it, or I have the wrong name for it

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iamlindoro:

hmm, looks as though need to be compiled with --enable-swscaler.... anyone have any idea about the correct syntax after that?

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iamlindoro:

Hmm, fails to compile with --enable-swscaler, so I guess that's off the table... Anyone have *any* experience changing the swscaler?

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\matt\:

my lirc works with mythtv but not with mplayer, if i set the -lircrc flag mplayer wont open

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\matt\:

what do i need to put in the mplayer conf?

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\matt\:

http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/LIRC <- did not work for me

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\matt\:

the bind's are correct, i just get no response from mplayer ;[

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\matt\:

n/m ln ~/.mythtv/lircrc ~/.lircrc

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\matt\:

;[

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dman:

hrm what HD tuner card should i buy for best mythtv support?

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\matt\:

is it possible to reset mythtv keyboard bindings to default?

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DapOrp:

\matt\: if you find a way please let me know.

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\matt\:

will do

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\matt\:

you would think there would be a button =[

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DapOrp:

yeah, or something..

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DapOrp:

i'd also like to find a command to pass to the backend to make it automatically expire and delete all recordings at once.

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DapOrp:

rather than 1 at a time as needed.

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DapOrp:

drives me nuts.

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\matt\:

my deltete button doesnt work ;[

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\matt\:

*delete

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\matt\:

it's set to D

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\matt\:

yet when i hit D it just jumps to the main menu

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\matt\:

lol

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tank-man:

DapOrp, from the frontend, tag/highlight all the shows with "/" then press "m" then playlist options, delete

[05:44:32]

tank-man:

you can also probably do it with some mysql commands

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DapOrp:

anything I can do remotely or from the commandline? so it can just do that on a regular basis in the middle of the night or something?

[05:45:10]

mzb:

yay ... DV1000T paid for! :) (should be a step up;)

[05:45:46]

tank-man:

why not just let them autoexpire and delete themselves, why do you want to do it?

[05:46:01]

DapOrp:

i just want it to expire faster I guess.

[05:46:14]

DapOrp:

when it's deleting stuff it can occasionally cause the video to skip.

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DapOrp:

so i'd rather it just trash everything at once in the middle of the night or something when I'm not watching it, so when I am, it's not doing that.

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tank-man:

this is with hd content?

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DapOrp:

no this is SD. DVB-S

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DapOrp:

Software Mpeg-2 decoding.

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DapOrp:

i need every cpu cycle I can get. :)

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hachi:

hey, I'm having serious timezone issues between my frontend and backend

[06:05:14]

hachi:

it's recording the right shows, but then in the 'watch recordings' screen it shows entirely different times

[06:05:51]

hachi:

the current show that it's recording isn't highlighted in orange to tell me that it's recording it, it thinks it finished recording it hours ago even though the backend is recording it right now

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hachi:

anyone know how you're supposed to fix these things?

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jhulst:

hachi: Do you have your timezones configured correctly?

[06:11:27]

hachi:

I don't really know... I've got the timezone set on the frontend and the backend that does the recording

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jhulst:

what is the output of 'date' at the command line?

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hachi:

the master backend happens to live in UTC, the other two are set to PDT

[06:12:19]

hachi:

but I shouldn't have to set the timezone of the machine, since the time on the machine is always in UTC

[06:13:22]

jhulst:

do the machines know that the date is UTC? Sometimes they may think the system time is local

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hachi:

they do

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hachi:

here, pastbinning

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jhulst:

Your backend is in a different timezone than you?

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hachi:

well, the hardware is in my closet, but it has the system timezone set to UTC

[06:15:50]

hachi:

http://pastebin.ca/824873

[06:16:34]

hachi:

sudo date on the master backend shows UTC as well

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jhulst:

hachi: So the backend records at the correct time?

[06:22:20]

hachi:

yup

[06:22:35]

hachi:

and the backend that is doing the recording, is running on the same box as the frontend

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jhulst:

and the frontend is at the wrong time

[06:23:19]

hachi:

yeah

[06:23:26]

hachi:

like... it's 10:30 pm right now

[06:24:09]

hachi:

and in the 'watch programs' menu it shows the show that the backend is recording right now... as starting at 2pm... so 8 hours earlier

[06:24:36]

hachi:

which would seem to indicate that it's subtracting an extra 8 hours (my UTC offset) from the times on the programs

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jhulst:

are they run as different users?

[06:24:48]

hachi:

nope

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jhulst:

well, I guess I don't have anything then. I would try setting everything to UTC, remove all timezones completely

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hachi:

it's kinda weird that it doesn't show up bright orange saying it's being recorded

[06:29:26]

hachi:

is that a time bug, or is that because the master backend and the recording backend are different machines?

[06:29:48]

jhulst:

I would think it's a time bug

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jhulst:

I'm not sure though

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jhulst:

hachi: maybe try this? Whenever you change the timezone, run mythtv-setup, delete your channel data, configure it again, and run mythfilldatabase.

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hachi:

yeah, that's what I did

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Solv:

when I first installed knoppmyth it asked for the city code for mythweather which i didn't have...i just found the code in the accid file in /usr/share/mythtv/mythweather...but I can't find the script that ran to let me input the code, can someone tell me what it is?

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hachi:

I would like to start X at system startup... I seem to recall that this is in the FAQ, but it doesn't actually answer the question

[07:57:13]

hachi:

anyone know how?

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cecil:

hachi: having X start on boot can be done in multiple ways depending on your distro and your window manager or desktop

[08:00:09]

cecil:

hachi: greater details for a better answer

[08:01:15]

hachi:

debian/whatver... testing/unstable/experimental hybrid

[08:01:26]

hachi:

openbox probably, unless that turns out to have problems

[08:01:45]

hachi:

on x86

[08:03:34]

cecil:

http://mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Frontend_Auto_Login

[08:04:07]

hachi:

oh, mingetty can do it.. nifty

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hachi:

and now... is there a way to disable that animation on the main menu?

[08:14:17]

hachi:

oh weird, today it's not taking up a ton of cpu time to draw it

[08:14:20]

hachi:

nevermind

[08:14:45]

clever:

pick a theme that lacks animation maybe

[08:16:44]

\matt\:

is this correct:

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\matt\:

update keybindings set keylist=(select keylist from keybindings where hostname='OLDHOSTNAME') where hostname='mycurrenthostname'

[08:17:22]

\matt\:

i'm trying to figure out a way to reset my keybindings to default

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\matt\:

i believe all the enteries with the hostname value of 'OLDHOSTNAME' are the origonal settings

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Dibblah:

\matt\: That's an annoying to type nick ;)

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\matt\:

lol

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\matt\:

sry

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Dibblah:

\matt\: Just delete the keylist for that host.

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hachi:

I'm the sort of person that would blow away rows to solve that

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\matt\:

it will reset itself?

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Dibblah:

... It'll get recreated.

[08:19:16]

hachi:

Dibblah: are you selling meat pies?

[08:19:43]

Dibblah:

You can actually remove all rows in settings which don't relate to backends and it'll reset to complete defaults.

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xMattx:

wtf

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Dibblah:

hachi: Not at this current moment ;)

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\matt\:

you were right, they did get re-created

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\matt\:

thanks bro =]

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\matt\:

the delete key still does not work =\

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\matt\:

or D key should i say

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\matt\:

it just jumps to the main menu

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clever:

damnit

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Tanthrix:

Whoa. My TV like crashed.

[08:36:47]

clever:

the core dumps are taking over

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clever:

400mb core dumps

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clever:

one after another

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\matt\:

happened to me the other day

[08:37:39]

clever:

mythshutdown core dumps

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clever:

they suddendly got larger per dump

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clever:

was many 20–40mb dumps

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clever:

now i got a 400mb dump from hell:P

[08:38:36]

Tanthrix:

That was disturbing. The set was displaying nothing but random dots, and would not turn off or respond in any way.

[08:38:47]

Tanthrix:

Had to pull the plug, though that seemed to fix it.

[08:38:55]

Tanthrix:

Just what I want to see from a $1500 TV.

[08:39:15]

clever:

lol

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\matt\:

wtf, how do you delete a recording?

[08:40:48]

\matt\:

from with in mythtv

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clever:

\matt\: hit the right arrow in the recording list

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\matt\:

did that

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\matt\:

then hit D?

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clever:

no then you get a meny

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\matt\:

oh

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\matt\:

whoops

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clever:

up/down to pick delete and enter:P

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\matt\:

ah

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\matt\:

nice =]

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\matt\:

i wish the epg would toggle

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clever:

and you can do many other things

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\matt\:

instead of having to hit an escape button

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\matt\:

any way to set that up with a script or somethin?

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clever:

do delete things automaticaly?

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\matt\:

nah

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\matt\:

toggle epg with one button

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clever:

toggle epg?

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\matt\:

the program guide

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\matt\:

so like if i press m to show the program guide

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\matt\:

press m to close it again

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clever:

from where?

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\matt\:

from in live tv

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clever:

ah

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clever:

i rarely use livetv

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\matt\:

know what i mean?

[08:44:49]

\matt\:

like you can mute/unmute with one button ;\

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clever:

when i hit m i get a small menu

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\matt\:

oh

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clever:

one of the options is to open the guide

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clever:

escape gets out

[08:45:16]

clever:

m on a channel changes to it

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\matt\:

i have the pvr 150 remote, i have an ( i ) button

[08:45:21]

\matt\:

and a guide button

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clever:

ah

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clever:

you may need to go into the key editor under setup

[08:45:52]

clever:

its made by one of the plugins(mythcontrols)

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\matt\:

yes, but that still doesnt toggle

[08:46:24]

clever:

you probly also have an exit button

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\matt\:

yeah

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\matt\:

but two buttons is harder than just using one

[08:46:53]

\matt\:

kinda the way you can mute and unmute with one button

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clever:

which you could bind to escape or backspace

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clever:

not shure how to make it toggle

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\matt\:

when googleing for help on setting up the lircrc bindings i saw some that executed scripts

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\matt\:

would it be possible to execute a script then send the key?

[08:55:08]

clever:

yeah its somewhat simple to send a key

[08:55:20]

clever:

but how does it know wether to send menu or exit?

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\matt\:

just a file somewhere

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\matt\:

with 1 or 0

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\matt\:

or somethin

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\matt\:

or file exists or not

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clever:

and what if myth crashes while in the guide

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clever:

next time you hit the key it sends exit and leaves livetv:O

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\matt\:

word

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\matt\:

add a startup script befor myth to remove the file?

[08:57:35]

clever:

or query the frontend and do the right thing

[08:57:39]

\matt\:

yeah

[08:57:42]

\matt\:

is that possible?

[08:57:46]

clever:

checking

[09:01:22]

clever:

found out why im getting weird erorrs

[09:01:38]

clever:

alot of my connection errors have been the connection closing AFTER it connected

[09:01:45]

clever:

making it seem like its a remote problem

[09:01:55]

clever:

yet it even happened with a LAN ip which isnt in use

[09:02:06]

clever:

no way i can get a syn+ack from a empty ip

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\matt\:

anythin?

[09:08:10]

clever:

i suspect its my new antivirys

[09:08:27]

clever:

which somehow knew of the connection error when mirc itself didnt

[09:09:13]

clever:

and it was getting in the way of finding a diff error when trying to control my frontend for a test

[09:10:27]

clever:

under general settings in mtyh

[09:10:30]

clever:

(frontend)

[09:10:35]

clever:

enable remote control of the fe

[09:11:38]

clever:

then you can telnet into the frontend on port 6546

[09:12:18]

clever:

from there you can simulate any key entry and trigger jump points(jumping from livetv to livetvinguide restarts the recording and wont work)

[09:12:29]

clever:

and 'query location' shows these 2 things

[09:12:35]

clever:

: query location

[09:12:35]

clever:

. # Playback LiveTV 00:00:07 of 00:00:25 1x 1028 2007-12–20T05:00:00 228

[09:12:43]

clever:

: query location

[09:12:43]

clever:

. # GuideGrid

[09:12:51]

clever:

depending on which one your in

[09:13:08]

clever:

with a bit of scripting you can send a few keys depending on where you are

[09:13:14]

clever:

and run it with irexec

[09:13:44]

clever:

posibly even have the normal guide open if you hit guide outside of livetv(from any menu) so it acts like a jump point

[09:14:29]

clever:

^query location

[09:14:30]

clever:

mythtv: MainMenu

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\matt\:

nice

[09:14:44]

clever:

^query location

[09:14:44]

clever:

mythtv: MainMenu

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clever:

^query location

[09:14:59]

clever:

mythtv: Setup

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\matt\:

where did you get that from?

[09:15:14]

clever:

it cant tell menu's appart but it can tell special stuff from menus

[09:15:19]

clever:

the bit over irc?

[09:15:59]

clever:

^query location

[09:15:59]

clever:

mythtv: videogallery

[09:16:43]

\matt\:

can you tell if you're in live tv?

[09:17:00]

clever:

yep

[09:17:11]

clever:

^jump livetv

[09:17:14]

clever:

mythtv: OK

[09:17:22]

clever:

^query location

[09:17:23]

clever:

mythtv: Playback LiveTV 00:00:00 of 00:00:07 1x 1028 2007-12–20T05:00:00 24

[09:17:33]

clever:

clearly says its in livetv

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\matt\:

nice

[09:17:39]

clever:

on channel 28

[09:17:49]

clever:

^query recording 1028 2007-12–20T05:00:00

[09:17:50]

clever:

mythtv: ERROR: Unable to retrieve recordings list.

[09:17:55]

\matt\:

i'm going to have to play with this after work ;]

[09:18:03]

clever:

^key escape

[09:18:04]

clever:

mythtv: OK

[09:18:11]

clever:

back to main menu:)

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\matt\:

where do you enable it?

[09:28:24]

\matt\:

i cant find it in the front end or back =\

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hachi:

I am... having a very difficult time finding the skip-commercial key

[09:38:11]

hachi:

I can't even find the main keymap page on the wiki :\

[09:38:31]

justinh:

Z iirc

[09:38:46]

hachi:

sweet, that's perfect

[09:39:03]

\matt\:

http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-11.html#ss11.1

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clever:

\matt\: in general frontend setup i beleive

[09:42:56]

clever:

hachi: Z is in the keys.txt that i have

[09:42:59]

justinh:

in the general section iirc

[09:42:59]

clever:

along with MANY others

[09:43:16]

justinh:

jees you guys should spend more time exploring the menus

[09:43:30]

clever:

thats what i did on the 2nd day i think:P

[09:43:36]

clever:

EVERY single corner of every menu

[09:43:41]

justinh:

or is it just theme designers who do that? :P

[09:43:47]

clever:

some i found by mistake

[09:44:02]

clever:

i hit right arrow once too many in the recording list and found a new menu:P

[09:44:05]

justinh:

a couple of things have been moved in trunk, to more logical places

[09:44:15]

clever:

home/end for com skiping i also found by mistake i think

[09:44:36]

clever:

im using the internal video player for mythvideo at

[09:44:38]

clever:

m

[09:44:46]

clever:

and i appear to be getting overscan effects

[09:44:49]

\matt\:

i found it but am getting connection refused still ;[

[09:44:53]

justinh:

me too now I have a cpu which can cope

[09:44:55]

clever:

subtitles near the edge of the screen are being cut off

[09:45:05]

justinh:

\matt\: it's not on port 22 btw

[09:45:05]

clever:

\matt\: you need to restart the frontend

[09:45:09]

\matt\:

i know

[09:45:11]

\matt\:

oh ok

[09:45:35]

clever:

justinh: yet how can i get overscan on a lcd panel in a laptop?

[09:45:53]

justinh:

dunno. shouldn't overscan

[09:45:55]

\matt\:

thanks alot man, i have alot to play with now =]

[09:46:07]

\matt\:

goodnight all ;]

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clever:

yeah thats why im confused:P

[09:47:16]

justinh:

if a clip doesn't have a primary English audio track I don't watch it, simple as that. call me uncultured if you want

[09:47:56]

clever:

its hard to notice the overscaning enless theres stuff near the edges

[09:48:30]

justinh:

maybe try putting a slight negative overscan amount on tv playback settings :)

[09:48:52]

clever:

another thing to mention

[09:48:56]

clever:

4:3 video

[09:49:10]

clever:

1440x900 screen

[09:49:29]

clever:

diff ratio

[09:49:45]

clever:

it could be trying to make it as wide as the screen while keeping the ratio

[09:49:51]

clever:

pushing the top/bottom off

[09:50:07]

clever:

and then for some reason cliping the left/right back to normal width

[09:50:26]

justinh:

that'd do it

[09:50:38]

clever:

i'll find a widescreen avi to test

[09:50:44]

clever:

it would get stretched less

[09:52:04]

** clever wonders where all his widescreen crap went... **

[09:52:30]

clever:

not having mplayer makes it hard to even view much

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clever:

and my mythtranscode's are still segfaulting

[09:54:35]

clever:

f it

[09:54:39]

clever:

i'll just install mplayer

[09:54:57]

clever:

i think your theme is missing a box in the filetype editor of mythvideo also:P

[09:55:20]

clever:

i cant see/edit the command for file types

[09:56:12]

justinh:

pity

[09:57:16]

clever:

i'll just manualy use 'mythtv' as a player

[09:58:30]

clever:

Error: File exists but is not readable by MythTV!

[09:58:33]

clever:

i'll fix you!

[09:59:26]

clever:

sats something.con in the corner of the video

[09:59:58]

clever:

in mplayer it says something.coM

[10:00:10]

clever:

the m is getting cut off(on the side not top)

[10:01:02]

clever:

getting some black bars at the top/bottom(not exactly the same ratio)

[10:01:08]

clever:

and the left/right are slightly cut off

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\matt\:

couldnt help but play around

[10:09:13]

\matt\:

printf %b "query location\nexit\n" |nc localhost 6006| egrep -o "MainMenu|GuideGrid|LiveTV"

[10:09:17]

\matt\:

that's what i came up with

[10:09:21]

\matt\:

thanks alot man =]

[10:09:59]

Dibblah:

printf? egrep? You really like making the machine _work_... ;)

[10:10:20]

Dibblah:

echo and grep would be perfectly OK ;)

[10:10:28]

\matt\:

echo didnt like my -n

[10:10:34]

\matt\:

ack \n

[10:10:42]

\matt\:

oops echo -e?

[10:10:50]

Dibblah:

Yup.

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\matt\:

how would i do it with grep?

[10:11:14]

Dibblah:

grep -E / egrep are synonymous.

[10:11:54]

\matt\:

echo -e didnt work

[10:12:03]

Dibblah:

Or just do the whole thing in Perl for an exercise on overkill.

[10:13:23]

clever:

also

[10:13:30]

\matt\:

sorry i'm a nub ;\

[10:13:35]

\matt\:

what do you want from me ;\

[10:13:38]

clever:

bash redirection can take a tcp socket directly

[10:13:48]

\matt\:

oh yeah

[10:13:53]

clever:

something like echo .. > /dev/tcp/ip/port

[10:13:56]

\matt\:

it's like /dev/ip or somethin

[10:14:04]

clever:

and 'exec' can change the default for the whole prog

[10:14:08]

\matt\:

yeah somethin like that

[10:14:18]

\matt\:

???

[10:14:29]

clever:

exec > /dev/tcp/ip/port 0>&1

[10:14:39]

clever:

something like that may tie stdin/out to the socket

[10:14:47]

clever:

then plain echo and read

[10:15:00]

clever:

ive seen an irc client purely in bash

[10:15:05]

clever:

you cant say its limited:P

[10:15:09]

\matt\:

lol

[10:15:16]

\matt\:

but i can just as easily use my one line =x

[10:15:31]

clever:

lines mean nothing

[10:15:34]

\matt\:

the machine does nothing else, it can spare a lil cpu time

[10:15:39]

clever:

add a ; and lines are useless

[10:16:28]

clever:

exec > /dev/tcp/ip/port;echo query location;read something;echo key ...;echo exit

[10:16:35]

clever:

theres half your script

[10:16:53]

clever:

without the need to reconnect after you grep and make up your mind on what to do

[10:17:09]

\matt\:

word

[10:17:26]

clever:

its nowhere near runable but its 1 line!

[10:17:34]

\matt\:

i know

[10:17:45]

\matt\:

how do i set a var from read? $_ ?

[10:17:54]

clever:

i think read does the seting for you

[10:17:59]

clever:

check its part in 'man bash'

[10:18:01]

clever:

or ask #bash

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\matt\:

word

[10:18:18]

\matt\:

imma go to bed, i'm up way to late, you've been really helpful man =]

[10:19:26]

clever:

6am here:P

[10:19:39]

clever:

and i just hit a wrong button in my anti virus

[10:19:44]

clever:

NUKE ALL TCP CONNECTIONS!

[10:20:10]

clever:

and half the winblows programs i run suck cpu like nothing when reconnecting

[10:20:32]

\matt\:

exec > /dev/tcp/ip/port;echo query location; should work on it's own no?

[10:20:39]

\matt\:

ip and port being se

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\matt\:

t

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clever:

yeah i think so

[10:21:09]

clever:

if /dev/tcp is even right

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\matt\:

http://thesmithfam.org/blog/2006/05/23/bash-s . . . th-devtcp-2/

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clever:

/dev/tcp/host/port

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\matt\:

looks to be

[10:21:53]

clever:

If host is a valid hostname or Internet address, and port is a

[10:21:56]

clever:

...

[10:22:07]

clever:

i just did /tcp<enter> in 'man bash'

[10:22:37]

clever:

NOTE: Bash, as packaged for Debian, does not support using the /dev/tcp and /dev/udp files.

[10:22:49]

\matt\:

;[

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\matt\:

nc it is

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\matt\:

works on a mac though ;\

[10:23:20]

clever:

you can probly still link nc to the current stdout

[10:23:32]

clever:

also i think shell redirection even affects bash functions

[10:23:36]

clever:

function name()...

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clever:

name | nc

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clever:

with a bit to copy stdout to stdin

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\matt\:

that's above my head

[10:24:12]

\matt\:

again, i'm a nub

[10:24:21]

clever:

#bash

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clever:

they live to help noobs:P

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\matt\:

lol

[10:24:33]

\matt\:

perhaps because this isnt efnet

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\matt\:

it's really bed time

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\matt\:

it's 5:30 and i need to be at work at 11

[10:25:05]

clever:

its 6:24 am here

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[10:25:13]

clever:

and dads alarm clock is going off

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matt|zzzz:

lawl

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clever:

wtf

[10:25:45]

clever:

my highlight keeps going off

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clever:

yet it isnt loging anything

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andy151:

can anyone tell me if it will be OK for me to upgrade from 0.20 to 0.21 (when it's out) as opposed to going through 0.20.1 and 0.20.2?

[11:23:50]

hexxington:

andy151, it'll be fine, eventually. but 0.20.1 doesn't exist, and 0.20.2 is a vital update to 0.20 for anyone in yankland

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doc__:

hi there

[11:24:24]

andy151:

ah, I'm in the UK which is why I didn't bother. It was basically the SchedulesDirect thing iirc?

[11:24:38]

Tanthrix:

andy151: I suspect it would be perfectly fine. Just make a db backup before doing so. Should always do that before doing any upgrades, or even major hardware changes. Then if you have to, you can very easily revert everything.

[11:25:10]

andy151:

thanks. I mysqldump religeously :)

[11:25:17]

Tanthrix:

Good man! ;)

[11:26:02]

andy151:

btw, I saw on a post on MythTV Users mailing list someone saying that "now the release date for 0.21 has been sort of agreed..." maybe I missed something but I didn't think it was set as anything other than "when it's done". Have a missed an announcement?

[11:27:23]

hexxington:

no, i think there's just a general feel of what'd be nice to include in 0.21, and what won't make the cut

[11:27:35]

justinh:

there's been no official date set but AFAIK is looking like feb/march

[11:28:01]

andy151:

aha, thanks guys. I'm just curious, I don't want to appear like I'm hassling for it :)

[11:28:23]

andy151:

I figured any official announcement would go on the website anyway

[11:28:31]

justinh:

doesn't matter how much you hassle :P

[11:28:46]

justinh:

nothing speeds up 'when it's ready'

[11:28:59]

andy151:

lol :) That's what I keep telling my boss too :P

[11:29:58]

justinh:

a manager where I used to work tried to get us to cut short vital tests in production. whooo dear.

[11:30:00]

hexxington:

justinh, lies! duke nukem forever had a trailer released yesterday, after only 10.5 years

[11:30:42]

justinh:

lol

[11:30:44]

andy151:

lol, I knew someone would mention DNF when talking deadlines :P

[11:30:51]

Tanthrix:

In the realm of unlikely anouncements, I'm much more excited about Peter Jackson finally settling all that legal junk with New Line to do The Hobbit

[11:31:01]

andy151:

did you see it? It looked less complete than the trailer they released in 2001 :|

[11:31:09]

justinh:

I lost interest in DN3D after a relative borrowed my CD & never gave it back

[11:31:17]

andy151:

yes, The Hobbit was good news. 2 years to wait thought :\

[11:31:22]

hexxington:

andy151, less like a mockup though. looks a lot like doom 3 graphics though :/

[11:31:37]

andy151:

absolutely, we were discussing that it looks like the D3 engine

[11:31:55]

andy151:

I'm still not gonna hold my breath :)

[11:32:02]

hexxington:

i think it's UE3, but something about the bump mapping says id tech 4

[11:32:57]

hexxington:

no, wait

[11:33:00]

hexxington:

"Broussard has stated several times that the only parts of the Unreal engine that are still part of their code base are UnrealScript, the networking code, and the UnrealEd. Everything else (except the current physics engine) has been written from scratch by 3D Realms. "

[11:33:01]

andy151:

I'll have to look again but I felt the lighting in dark areas and the smoke effect looked ID engine to me. Byt the time it's out, it'll be running on something totally different anyway :)

[11:33:20]

andy151:

interesting

[11:33:28]

justinh:

blimey. get out more :P

[11:33:43]

andy151:

lol, prolly should :\

[11:35:13]

hexxington:

justinh, it's fucking cold outside, whereas gaming increases the nice toasty heat generated by gaming machines

[11:35:31]

justinh:

I think I can safely rest in the knowledge that no hardware I've got will be able to run a newly released game

[11:35:41]

andy151:

yeah, you can turn the central heating off if you have quad SLI :)

[11:35:55]

hexxington:

justdave, well, Crysis doesn't run smooth even with £1000 of graphics cards

[11:36:36]

andy151:

hexxington, is that game worth getting? Not seen any reviews for it, I ended up picking up CoD4

[11:37:15]

justinh:

ah bum my car is all frosty again

[11:37:19]

hexxington:

andy151, haven't bought a pc game for ages. i'm waiting for linux po^W^W um... nevermind

[11:37:30]

hexxington:

i certainly never typed that

[11:37:44]

andy151:

;)

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CaptObviousman:

it could happen

[12:03:50]

** CaptObviousman wrong-windows **

[12:10:11]

** clever slaps Captain_Murdoch **

[12:10:13]

clever:

oops:P

[12:10:21]

** clever slaps CaptObviousman **

[12:14:29]

** CaptObviousman eyes **

[12:19:10]

clever:

this is odd

[12:19:22]

clever:

statd hangs at startup throwing udp packets at portmap

[12:19:25]

clever:

and portmap doesnt react

[12:22:50]

clever:

damn defaults

[12:22:55]

clever:

needed a entry in hosts.allow

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** clever throws it at other hosts to see if it fixes nfs problems all round **

[12:25:27]

clever:

nope

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clever:

false alarm:P

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clever:

still broke

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justdave:

so I upgraded my mythtv setup from Ubuntu Edgy to Ubuntu Gutsy this last weekend...

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justdave:

the last few days, every morning my wife hollers that the sound isn't working.

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justdave:

a cold reboot usually fixes it, a warm one doesn't.

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justdave:

thing is, the sound works fine in anything other than watchtv

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justdave:

it's like the sound from the tuner is what's dying, which seems strange

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CIDR:

Would a video card other than a intel x3000 help me watch 1080p x264? It's on a 1.86 core 2 duo.

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justinh:

CIDR: no h264 acceleration in linux, so er.. no

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jarle:

justdave: no sound working, or only not in myth?

[14:33:56]

justdave:

jarle: yeah, only not in myth.

[14:34:18]

justdave:

and only in the watch TV section. If I go into watch videos it works

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jarle:

justdave: Maybe problems with you TV card then?

[14:35:38]

justdave:

yeah, just seems strange it would start right when I upgraded the system

[14:35:41]

justdave:

been fine for a year :)

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jarle:

justdave: any errors in /var/log/messages or dmesg?

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jarle:

justdave: as you say a warm reboot does not solve the problem I would suggest it is a hardware problem...

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justinh:

my backend has been pretty much fine since I installed it. not a single upgrade since

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justdave:

2007-12–20 07:00:01.624 TVRec(2): Enabling Full LiveTV UI.

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justdave:

[mpeg @ 0xb74038b0]Parser not found for Codec Id: 94210 !

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justdave:

hmm, get that even after the reboot that fixed it in the log though, so that's a red herring

[14:41:32]

justdave:

yeah, sounds plausible. only happens when it sits overnight though. wonder if some cron job is triggering it or something

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justdave:

oh, that was the backend log I was looking at.

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justdave:

frontend log is showing a bunch of this:

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justdave:

2007-12–20 07:06:23.412 AudioOutput Error: WARNING: something is currently using: /dev/dsp, retrying.

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justdave:

2007-12–20 07:06:23.412 NVP: Disabling Audio, reason is: WARNING: something is currently using: /dev/dsp, retrying.

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justdave:

so something's happening overnight that's locking /dev/dsp in a way that mplayer doesn't care about (since MythVideo still works) and GNOME dosn't care about (since the sound effects in Nautilus still work)

[14:44:36]

justdave:

but MythTV does

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justinh:

bah this is just dumb. got ntp from the same sources yet my nfsroot machine is 4s behind the nfs server

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justdave:

if it's a cron job, anacron might be firing it at boot which explains why it fails on a warm reboot and the cold reboot might have just been getting lucky (or having waited long enough for whatever job to finish so anacron didn't fire it again next time)

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justdave:

ok, got some good leads anyhow. I'll figure it out eventually. :) got errands to run now

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jarle:

justdave: hang on a bit...

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justdave:

oh, I have a cron job that runs mplayer on stuff in the videos directory to generate thumbnails, maybe it's locking something up

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jarle:

justdave: there is a command to check which program is hogging a device....

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justdave:

lsof would tell that wouldn't it?

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jarle:

justdave: maybe "lsof /dev/dsp" is what I'm thinking of..

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jarle:

give that a try when audio is not working..

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CIDR:

Anyone know when the multithread patch will go into mythtv?

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clever:

CIDR: what does it multithread?

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CIDR:

decoding

[15:10:54]

clever:

ah

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clever:

semi usefull here

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clever:

my only dual core is 1.8ghz each

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CIDR:

Yeah

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CIDR:

that's what I have

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clever:

which is plenty for 264 at high res

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clever:

in 1 core

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CIDR:

And it'll do 720p x264, but not 1080p

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clever:

not shrue if i have any 1080

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** clever looks **

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clever:

i think the gurren lagn i got was 264 atleast

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fryfrog:

what 1080p x264 have you got/found?

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fryfrog:

i'd not mind testing that on my 4600+ X2

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fryfrog:

would it matter that... my output/tv is only 720p?

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CIDR:

I have a 1080p t.v.

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clever:

dont even see it on my main volume

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CIDR:

But I can't get 1080 x264 to play reasonably

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fryfrog:

ah

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clever:

i dont keep most 264 files

[15:13:28]

clever:

since bearly anything can play the f*cking things

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CIDR:

I do, it's the way to go

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fryfrog:

since switching to mplayer, i've been quite happy with x264

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CIDR:

look AWESOME

[15:14:18]

CIDR:

well I just tried mplayer

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CIDR:

buy only with 720p works great

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fryfrog:

been thinking of re-encoding dvds with it

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CIDR:

about to try 1080p

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CIDR:

if I can figure out how to exit it

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fryfrog:

what were you playing 1080p with before?

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fryfrog:

CIDR: you'll need to setup some keys in your .lircrc

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CIDR:

yeah

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clever:

found some

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clever:

1280x720_h264_Vorbis

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CIDR:

that's not 1080p

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CIDR:

1080ps is 1920X1080

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clever:

thats still pretty high up there

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CIDR:

hmmm

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clever:

ok it looks like 720p:P

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CIDR:

mplayer likes my 1080p

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CIDR:

SWEET

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CIDR:

well my problems are solved

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** clever throws my mplayer 1.6ghz single core at it **

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CIDR:

it's on the verge though

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CIDR:

uses 95% cpu

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CIDR:

on one of my cores

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clever:

frames allready lost sync

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clever:

and audio stuttering

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clever:

frame droping will just make it worse

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CIDR:

everything good here

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CIDR:

buy multithreaded would help so much

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** clever mounts the fs to the dual core and gives it a spin **

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CIDR:

oh now it's bad

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CIDR:

damn

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jarle:

does mythtv keep track of which recordings have been viewed and not? I would like to have recordings that I have already seen be deleted before shows I have not yet had the time to watch... Is this possible?

[15:18:23]

clever:

yeah takes a few seconds to fully kick in

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clever:

jarle: you can mark recordings as watched

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fryfrog:

jarle: there is a "watched" list in svn trunk

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fryfrog:

i *believe* there is a way to tell it to delete those first

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fryfrog:

but the other way is decent too.

[15:19:13]

clever:

jarle: hit the right arrow in the recording list

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fryfrog:

it can delete based on a combination of age and priority

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fryfrog:

ie, it nukes old, low priority shows first

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CIDR:

need to get multi threading to work

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jarle:

clever: I have to mark a show as watched manually for each show?

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clever:

it can automaticaly mark as watched if you exit near the end

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fryfrog:

yeah, i don't think the feature is *quite* finished

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fryfrog:

oh, does it?

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clever:

but i havent used that

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fryfrog:

i only ever see the 3 option dialog?

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clever:

and thats off by default

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fryfrog:

delete, keep and...

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fryfrog:

ahh

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clever:

go thru every option page:P

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fryfrog:

humm, maybe i do see a "mark as read"

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clever:

read carefully

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fryfrog:

great, <3 all 100 of them :p

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AndyCap:

you probably want Auto Expire watched programs before unwatched is selected

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jarle:

fryfrog: yeah, I have set it up to delete based on age and priority, if I could only give watched shows a lower priority I would be happy...

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jarle:

AndyCap: I'll have to check if this is available in stable release...

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fryfrog:

jarle: Then the above might help :)

[15:22:22]

fryfrog:

no, afaik only svn trunk

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fryfrog:

which is still reasonably stable, for me

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fryfrog:

or you can just wait for next stable release :)

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jarle:

fryfrog: yeah, can't remember seeing this option in stable...

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jarle:

I'm just waiting for a quiet season to do the upgrade to svn, as I want to be able to spend a couple of hours getting my mythbox up'n running again if something goes wrong... my GF can't live without the mythbox :)

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clever:

CIDR: mplayer (using 1 core i think) can handle 720p h264

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clever:

CIDR: yet winblows and a 2.9ghz cant handle putty refreshing 1 line at the framerate mplayer had

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clever:

causing mirc to pingtimeout on 1 network!

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clever:

and lockup multiple times

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jarle:

clever: if you want mplayer to use threaded playback you'll have to use "-lavdopts threads=2" (iirc...)

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clever:

jarle: i dont think i even need it

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clever:

a single 1.8ghz core is somehow able to outdo a single 2.9ghz

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clever:

i blame the bloated winblows on the 2.9ghz!

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fryfrog:

ghz isn't what matters, to a large extent

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fryfrog:

processor architecture makes a big difference

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clever:

its allmost double the freq

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fryfrog:

the core2 duo cpus are clocked much lower than the old p4s

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clever:

enless the arch is half as good as the other it should atleast be somewhat faster

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fryfrog:

but they walk all over them like a clown on a box of cherries

[15:28:55]

fryfrog:

what is the 1.8 and what is the 2.9?

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clever:

the dual 1.8 is a core2 duo

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fryfrog:

and the 2.9?

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fryfrog:

old "p4"?

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clever:

winblows is giving me trouble even opening system properties:P

[15:30:12]

clever:

2.93 ghz celeron D

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fryfrog:

nfw

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fryfrog:

which means "no fucking wonder" :)

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clever:

lol

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jarle:

threaded playback in mythtv is enabled by default in svn now, there is no need to apply any special patches anymore?

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fryfrog:

the core2 is based on pentium m, which beats and rapes the P4 like a redheaded step child

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clever:

also my 1.6ghz(mildly slower then 1 core of the dual) is P4(Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1500MHz)

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fryfrog:

jarle: people keep mentioning the multi-threaded patch to me

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clever:

and it cant handle the 720p 264

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fryfrog:

I'm not surprised, that is a slow ass P4

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clever:

lol

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fryfrog:

I have a pair of Xeon 2.4 (P4s basically), they can just *barely* do regular HD

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clever:

so its not just me and my crappy framegrabber:P

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fryfrog:

i'm not sure what they'd do on x264

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clever:

my frame grabber takes 50–90% of my 1.6ghz Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1500MHz

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clever:

which actualy reads as 1513.731

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clever:

mhz

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fryfrog:

why not get some mpeg2 cards?

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clever:

no job:P

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fryfrog:

that'd do it :)

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clever:

but what happens in 5 days?:P

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jarle:

fryfrog: that's why I was a bit unsure... I was told a while ago that it was about to committed, but not sure..

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fryfrog:

you start having to sell your body to buy crack?

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clever:

i got the frame grabber for free from my uncle

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clever:

fryfrog: dec 25th...

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i3ooi3oo:

why have a tuner with out mpeg2 built in ?

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fryfrog:

they pay twice as much to hookers on xmas?

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fryfrog:

i3ooi3oo: they are cheap/free :)

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clever:

fryfrog: free card as a gift maybe:P

[15:34:06]

fryfrog:

ahhhH!

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clever:

i3ooi3oo: they where originaly designed to output RAW frames right into video ram like xvideo

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clever:

i3ooi3oo: so you get livetv without any cpu usage

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i3ooi3oo:

if you have a compusa around they are going out of buisness and have the hausppauge 1800 which is pcie

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clever:

canada:P

[15:35:03]

i3ooi3oo:

Florida so :P

[15:35:11]

clever:

search for *usa* in local area found no results.

[15:35:15]

i3ooi3oo:

high today 75

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fryfrog:

that work in linux?

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i3ooi3oo:

1800 does

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clever:

-7.8 outside here

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i3ooi3oo:

digital only thou

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clever:

C

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rhpot1991:

are they running discounts on the web, or just locally?

[15:35:59]

clever:

i suspect my digital channels are qam but 90% of the channels im paying for atm are analog

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i3ooi3oo:

in store only selling till the stock is gone

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clever:

enless i get a dvb-s and find good channels unencrypted in the sky a pure digital card is useless to me

[15:37:08]

i3ooi3oo:

warehouses emptied already

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i3ooi3oo:

you can get the hausppauge 150 on ebay for 30 or so at times

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clever:

thats half of my savings in paypal

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clever:

and what about shiping?:P

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i3ooi3oo:

ok steal stuff from family sell it on ebay the use the money for a mpeg2 card

[15:40:33]

i3ooi3oo:

simple

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clever:

lol

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fryfrog:

ahahha

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fryfrog:

I need to sell my unused cards :(

[15:41:11]

clever:

could just raid the piggy bank:P

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fryfrog:

I have an air2pc (hd atsc/qam) I don't use and a PVR250 too :(

[15:41:38]

i3ooi3oo:

what you want for the 250 ?

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fryfrog:

it can't be worth more than 30 bucks or so i imagine?

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clever:

'and what about shiping?:P

[15:42:54]

fryfrog:

i can't remember if it is an MCE or normal either, and I'd have to track down the remote/ir lead

[15:42:58]

mtnbkr:

anyone using mythweather? I have a strange issue where the time-delay weather map (showing clouds etc) works, but the other screens show variable names instead of the data for wind speed, temp etc. Check out these to see what I mean: http://www.revpol.com/files/mythweather1.png and http://www.revpol.com/files/mythweather2.png

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clever:

thats where most ebay stuff dings you

[15:43:00]

fryfrog:

shipping would be at cost

[15:43:06]

fryfrog:

i hate that

[15:43:18]

fryfrog:

UPS of one of those cards would probably be like $5 or less

[15:43:19]

i3ooi3oo:

i could use a 250

[15:44:05]

fryfrog:

send me an email at fryfrog@gmail.com to remind me, i'll see if i can locate all the important parts

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jarle:

mtnbkr: which version?

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mtnbkr:

hmm... Well, it is mini myth on a network booting, diskless mini-atx box. lemme check version...

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mtnbkr:

minimyth-0.20–24 is what my tftp server is serving up.

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andy151:

I think mythweather has been b0rked for some time, pending a rewrite i believe

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mtnbkr:

Ahhh Ok...

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mr_claus:

hi, my frontend does not show tv, other functions are working as expected, backend and frontend systems are seperated and the background role found channels while channel searching

[15:48:47]

mr_claus:

did i forget something to configure?

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mtnbkr:

I first thought it might be my rather restictive firewall blocking access to somewhere on some port that it needed to retrieve data, but that was notit. :)

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fryfrog:

mr_claus: "does not show tv" is rather a rather not-useful description. could you expand?

[15:51:43]

mr_claus:

fryfrog: i will try but it's simple, i switch on the frontend and choose TV, then i get only a blue screen

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fryfrog:

oic

[15:51:59]

fryfrog:

does it *record* shows okay?

[15:52:07]

fryfrog:

have you looked at the output from logs?

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** cecil_ thinks mr_claus should look at his logs... **

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mr_claus:

ok, one important error, no space left on device on the backend, there was a big mpg file in /var/lib/mythtv/recordings

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fryfrog:

might do it? :)

[15:58:00]

mr_claus:

so it seems the backend is still recording, but why?

[15:58:33]

fryfrog:

it records livetv, so perhaps when you went to watch... it never stopped, believing someone was still watching?

[16:01:35]

clever:

damnit

[16:01:39]

clever:

seek table f'ed up again

[16:01:44]

clever:

i hit seek forward

[16:01:47]

clever:

it goes backwards

[16:01:59]

mr_claus:

yes i see, but thats not a hint why i cannot see that tv on my frontend

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rhpot1991:

clever: there is a reverse buttons checkbox somehere

[16:02:32]

rhpot1991:

might have something to do with that?

[16:02:41]

clever:

rhpot1991: both left and right arrows seek backwards

[16:02:56]

rhpot1991:

you sure your lircrc is right?

[16:03:10]

clever:

rhpot1991: no receiver in the house:P

[16:03:16]

clever:

lirc no worky

[16:03:19]

rhpot1991:

heh, guess its not that

[16:03:24]

mr_claus:

fryfrog: perhaps that could be the problem? MPEGRec(/dev/video0) Error: Error getting codec params using old IVTV ioctl

[16:03:34]

rhpot1991:

mr_claus: thats normal

[16:03:55]

clever:

rhpot1991: ive allways controled myth from a keyboard(or telnet control from keyboard)

[16:04:34]

clever:

the recording is oddly short(44mins not 1h) and i cant seek thru the comercials near 41:xx

[16:04:41]

rhpot1991:

there was a command to rebuild the seek tables, but for the life of me I can't remember it

[16:05:12]

clever:

i rebuilt it

[16:05:12]

clever:

saved pos

[16:05:12]

clever:

and restarted playing

[16:05:12]

clever:

didnt fix it

[16:05:12]

clever:

mythcommflag --rebuild --file 1045_20071220055900.nuv

[16:05:19]

rhpot1991:

myth.rebuilddatabse.pl maybe?

[16:05:57]

clever:

no errors in log

[16:06:12]

rhpot1991:

I had the problem where I was trying to make cut points and had my seek tables all screwed up and it would randomly jump to certain points no matter where I was or what I tried to jump

[16:06:33]

clever:

i allready have trouble in cutlist editing

[16:06:52]

clever:

often if i try to seek backwards a short distance it goes forwards

[16:07:05]

rhpot1991:

I don't remember if I fixed it with mythcommflag or with myth.rebuilddatabase though

[16:07:05]

clever:

so its near imposible to find the exact frame the change happens on

[16:07:10]

clever:

because it wont even go the right direction

[16:07:24]

clever:

i need to go back much farther then i want

[16:07:29]

clever:

then forward again and not go past it

[16:07:36]

rhpot1991:

there is a --clearcutlist flag for commflag

[16:07:51]

clever:

cutload/autoskip are off

[16:07:57]

clever:

its manual seeking that has the problem

[16:08:24]

rhpot1991:

ya it sounds like the seektables, but that was so long ago I don't remember exactly what I did to fix it

[16:08:35]

clever:

just noticed something else thats odd

[16:08:42]

clever:

my mythvideo was overscaning earlier

[16:08:52]

clever:

and a website on a normal tv recording is also getting text cut off

[16:09:07]

clever:

sounds like your normal overscan problems right?

[16:09:52]

rhpot1991:

sounds like it

[16:09:57]

clever:

1 word says it isnt

[16:10:01]

clever:

laptop!

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mtnbkr:

lol... I guess if I did a little research I would have (almost) immediately found this: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/MythWeather

[16:12:13]

clever:

rhpot1991: manualy reading the seektable to check it over

[16:12:40]

CIDR:

Now to figure out if I can get mplayer to do multi threaded decoding

[16:13:02]

clever:

CIDR: [20 09:25:22] <jarle> clever: if you want mplayer to use threaded playback you'll have to use "-lavdopts threads=2" (iirc...)

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clever:

$duration(41:24) == 2484

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clever:

| 2483 | 392085765 | 7 |

[16:14:35]

clever:

| 2484 | 392181610 | 7 |

[16:14:35]

clever:

| 2485 | 392270011 | 7 |

[16:14:49]

clever:

i see useable looking data in the seektable in mysql

[16:15:14]

clever:

yet when i seek forward i go backwards

[16:15:38]

rhpot1991:

did you actually modify the recording file at any point?

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CIDR:

Thanks you

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clever:

it automaticaly transcoded when it was done recording

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clever:

but i havent done any manualy changes or cutlist editing

[16:16:10]

rhpot1991:

mtnbkr: mythweather works in mythbuntu/ubuntu repos, might want to ask where that came from and get it yourself

[16:16:11]

CIDR:

That looks to be for encoding

[16:16:19]

CIDR:

Maybe not

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mr_claus:

i found a hint, i can see the preview in my list of recordings

[16:17:47]

mr_claus:

but i cannot see the recording in full screen

[16:18:13]

clever:

rhpot1991: as soon as i get thru this comercial i'll see more info on my scaling problem

[16:18:44]

clever:

yep

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mtnbkr:

rhpot1991: thanks... I'll remember that. Right Now I am updating my tftp-booting diskless myth front ends. The weather thing has been on my mind for some time though nad if I can get it to work, I will take the time. Thanks

[16:18:51]

clever:

clearly overscaning type effect

[16:19:22]

clever:

my nvidia tvout underscans by default and i can see the entire website at the bottom(and some black under it)

[16:19:34]

clever:

the laptop(also nvidia but no tv) is cuting half the line off

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CIDR:

Even with lavdopts threads=2 it only appers to be using one thread

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clever:

if only i had a camera to take a screenshot...

[16:20:13]

CIDR:

Do I need to compile it a certain way?

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clever:

CIDR: ask #mplayer

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CIDR:

good plan

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CIDR:

thanks you

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mr_claus:

which software will be called if i try to watch a recording?

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clever:

mythtv uses an internal player

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jarle:

CIDR: you are using latest trunk version of mplayer?

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CIDR:

Not the latest trunk

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** Kritter has had audio sync issues with the internal player lately, and thus switched to vlc. **

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CIDR:

MPlayer SVN-r24130

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CIDR:

I see it spawning two threads

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mr_claus:

what means the error "X Error: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation) 11" in the frontend log?

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CIDR:

but one is at like 100% cpu the other is always at 0

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clever:

CIDR: try 10 threads

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clever:

see if they get spread out any more

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CIDR:

MAX IS 8

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CIDR:

I'll give it a try

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CIDR:

ermm stupid caps

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clever:

then do 8

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Dibblah:

CIDR: Some h.264 media is not multithreadable.

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clever:

mplayer by itself often spawns 2 procs(for -cache)

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Dibblah:

(Using current techniques)

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CIDR:

Nope, sure doesn't

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CIDR:

Dibblah maybe that's my issue

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jarle:

CIDR: how do you check how many threads it spawns?

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CIDR:

Looking at top

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clever:

top shows proc's not threads

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clever:

multiple threads can exist in a proc

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CIDR:

Then maybe I'm a moron, how should I be checking?

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clever:

a poor mans threading is to use procs though

[16:31:38]

clever:

hitting 1 in top switches it between a summary and showing seperate stats for each cpu

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CIDR:

It does spawn more procs with that option set

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clever:

Cpu(s): 1.6%us, 0.3%sy, 0.0%ni, 97.8%id, 0.1%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.2%si, 0.0%st

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clever:

Cpu0 : 1.5%us, 0.3%sy, 0.0%ni, 97.9%id, 0.1%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.2%si, 0.0%st

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clever:

Cpu1 : 1.7%us, 0.3%sy, 0.0%ni, 97.7%id, 0.1%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.2%si, 0.0%st

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clever:

with sumary and with each seperate

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CIDR:

when I set threads to 8, it launched 8 procs

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clever:

and only 1 was using cpu up?

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CIDR:

Yeah

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clever:

the fact it made 8 procs when said to do 8 threads means its using procs as threads

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CIDR:

that's what it seems

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clever:

and only 1 is using cpu sp the rest probly arent being given work by the corrent code

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CIDR:

Yeah

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CIDR:

No fun.

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clever:

fix the code:P

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CIDR:

I'm sure i'd just break it.

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clever:

you can allways fix it

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clever:

svn/cvs have ways of finding/undoing any local changes

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clever:

wtf

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clever:

the weird recording

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clever:

it appears to be 44mins long

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clever:

guide says its from 06:00 AM – 07:00 AM

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clever:

and it ends on time(end wasnt cut off)

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clever:

and it clearly starts at 5:59(status from the cable box)

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clever:

it clearly covers the whole show yet isnt long enough

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clever:

the seek problems could simply be causing it to appear short also

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clever:

mythweb says Length: 1 hr 2 mins

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clever:

i in mythfrontend says 44mins

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jarle:

Anybody else had problems with OSD fonts having letters on top of each-other (using mythtv in ubuntu gutsy) ?

[16:40:43]

clever:

ive also tracked down my problem of massive system cpu usage

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clever:

mythweb

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clever:

Cpu(s): 55.4% us, 39.2% sy, 0.0% ni, 0.5% id, 0.0% wa, 0.1% hi, 4.8% si

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clever:

when 'idle' its near 90% system

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clever:

until i restart the backend manualy

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mtnbkr:

rhpot1991: it shows in the minimyth changelog that he "Fixed MythWeather – Applied patch from Ubuntu.", but it is still not working... I'll sent the minimyth guy an email regarding this

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mtnbkr:

arg... I just downloaded and installed 0.20.2–32, the ubuntu fixes were applied yesterday, and the changelog show that it was added AFTER the 0.20.2–32 release. heh.. I'll see if it is avail for dl. cheers everyone!

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CIDR:

Another question, would I be benefitted at all from a better video card? or is it just that x264 is super CPU hungry?

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BULLE:

CIDR: yes and not

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CIDR:

So if I picked up a decent nvidia, it would help my playing of 1080p?

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BULLE:

CIDR: in theory, you would definitively benefitt a lot, by adding a brand new graphicscard from ati or nvidia, but, thats only valid in windows, as they only support video acceleration under windows

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BULLE:

CIDR: if you use windows yes, if linux no

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BULLE:

CIDR: what graphicscard have you got now ?

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CIDR:

A intel x3000

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CIDR:

i965 whatever you want to call it

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CIDR:

I use linux on the box.

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CIDR:

It's a core 2 duo 1.86

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CIDR:

and playback of 1080p is iffy

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BULLE:

CIDR: what version of myth ?

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CIDR:

I'm actually using mplayer as the player

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BULLE:

hmmm, dunno then

[16:55:52]

CIDR:

mythtv-0.20.2_p14814

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CIDR:

I tred with the internal player, but there was just no way

[16:56:12]

BULLE:

otherwise, new svn myth apparently have new ffmpeg version in it, and there are some patches to make use of dualcores

[16:56:27]

BULLE:

eg multithreaded playback in the internal player

[16:56:32]

BULLE:

perhaps that will be enough

[16:56:35]

BULLE:

perhaps not

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BULLE:

but my personal guess is that your best bet is to buy faster cpu

[16:57:04]

BULLE:

AND use multithreaded playback software

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justinh:

CIDR: even with the dev version of mplayer I think you need to use an option to make it make use of the other core

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BULLE:

h264 at 1080p is very cpu hungry

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CIDR:

justinh I have the flag set

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CIDR:

-lavdopts threads=2

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justinh:

ah

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CIDR:

it launches 2 pocs, but only uses 1

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hexxington:

you can only multithread h264 input which is encoded with slices

[16:58:10]

CIDR:

Yeah

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hexxington:

if the source file isn't sliced, then it can't be parallelised

[16:58:14]

CIDR:

That's what the issue must be

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justinh:

hexxington: so how much h264 is done in slices?

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hexxington:

justinh, i think broadcast stuff is. not sure about disc media

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Dibblah:

It all depends on the provider.

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BULLE:

surely you can write a multithreaded decoder of h264 even if its not encoded with slices, its just that its way harder i guess ?

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hexxington:

BULLE, if one frame depends on the next AND the previous, how do you split it and do it in parallel?

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BULLE:

hexxington: you just parallelize on a much lower level, eg inside the decoding of the frame

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hexxington:

BULLE, you suffer badly from context switching

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BULLE:

yeah

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BULLE:

would be fun to see how well it would perform on an amd phenom versus an intel core 2 duo

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BULLE:

due to the shared cache of the phenoms

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BULLE:

hmmm, perhaps you can reserve a bit of the cache on the core2duo to use as a shared buffer aswell, i dont know

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hexxington:

hm, interesting question. does better caching make up for the >33% slower float performance?

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BULLE:

yeah, would be fun to know how much that cache shared by all cores help out in situations like that

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CIDR:

Any recomendations for a remote

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CIDR:

?

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fryfrog:

I <3 the Logitech Harmony series of remotes

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CIDR:

I have a harmony

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CIDR:

I was wanting something with RF

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fryfrog:

there ya go

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fryfrog:

oh

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CIDR:

And I don't wanna drop like 300 on the RF harmony

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fryfrog:

doesn't someone make a remote like the harmony with both rf and ir?

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fryfrog:

oh, it is a harmony?

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CIDR:

Yeah

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fryfrog:

yeah, $300 for a remote is a little retarded :)

[17:15:08]

CIDR:

It's like 300 bucks though

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clever:

i have an ir remote here

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clever:

for an xray machine

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CIDR:

my ir is fine I guess

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CIDR:

I just need to dig up an ir receiver

[17:15:32]

clever:

i mean rf

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BULLE:

the mce ir is pretty nice, and well supported

[17:15:37]

clever:

rf remote

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CIDR:

I have a MCE ir

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clever:

charging dock on the xray machine

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clever:

its basicaly 2 transformer coils in seperate peices

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clever:

place the near eachother(even insulated) and you get power to charge

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fryfrog:

like a power toothbrush :0

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clever:

the remote is probly designed to be 100% sealee

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clever:

sealed

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clever:

so you can spill blood on it and wash it without getting it shorted out

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fryfrog:

i spill blood all the time, i can see how that'd be useful

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clever:

hospital use:P

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clever:

ive heard of storys of when the iv line riped

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clever:

while still attached at both ends

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clever:

all over the cat scan

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clever:

and the 'oh thats just deer blood'

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clever:

or pigs blood

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BULLE:

shouldnt matter realy

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BULLE:

its still blood

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clever:

but it has less human deseases

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BULLE:

clever: should still be cleaned and treated like human tissue

[17:20:41]

clever:

yea

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clever:

once dad sent a board back without properly labling it

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clever:

mass panic

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BULLE:

he

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BULLE:

dunno what you use to clean up blood on a catscan thingy

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BULLE:

i know what to use on "normal" surfaces

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fryfrog:

your tongue?

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clever:

mostly blood and contrast leaking into it

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BULLE:

but it contains iodine and other stuff that will stain most normal surfaces like crazy

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BULLE:

fryfrog: thats just the first step!

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clever:

but it has ruber seals on most of the joints near the patient area

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BULLE:

clever: ah, makese sense

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clever:

so you dont get any in the machine itself normaly

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clever:

if its sealed right you can use any old cleaner and not have it drip on the boards inside

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mr_claus:

how i can run the mpeg player on the console to test if it works like expected?

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cesman:

what is "mpeg player"?

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BULLE:

i bet its the internal player

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** clever goes to test a nfsroot usb stick **

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cesman:

mythtv /path/to/file.mpeg

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mr_claus:

and how the gui works if i want to see my live tv?

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** cesman is confused by mr_claus **

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mr_claus:

the integrated player show a blue screen to me and i have to find out why

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mr_claus:

perhaps it's a hardware problem with the graphic card, the frontend log shows "X Error: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation) 11" to me

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cesman:

have you not looked at your logs?

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floppyears:

xris: good work on the flash player the functionality and concept looks really cool

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Dibblah:

What graphics card?

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Dibblah:

mr_claus: ?

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BULLE:

floppyears: where can i look at xris creations ?

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mr_claus:

Dibblah: Trident Microsystems CyberBlade/i1

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cesman:

mr_claus: that isn't an old Virge chipset is it?

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Dibblah:

mr_claus: If you start mythtv as NO_XV=1 mythfrontend

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floppyears:

BULLE: it's in svn

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Dibblah:

does it display TV?

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floppyears:

BULLE: http://www.elkin.de/pivot/entry.php?id=73&w=elkin-wide#body

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mr_claus:

cesman: the board is the first epia, i know it's old and slow but the new one is not delivered

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mr_claus:

Dibblah: no, i can see the small preview if i take look to my recordings, but i didn't get any full screen or live tv

[17:34:15]

Dibblah:

mr_claus: When you start it as I said?

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mr_claus:

Dibblah: i test it at the moment, the system is slow :/

[17:36:36]

mr_claus:

Dibblah: it works, very slow but it works

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CIDR:

There we go

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Dibblah:

Okay. That means that video output works, but XV (Overlay) doesn't.

[17:38:08]

Dibblah:

Which drivers are you using for that video card?

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CIDR:

upgraded to the new version of mplayer and it seems to be working now

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mr_claus:

Dibblah: trident driver

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mr_claus:

Dibblah: it was selected by default

[17:40:13]

Dibblah:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xse . . . t/+bug/20584

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justinh:

server 127.127.1.0

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justinh:

server ntp2a.mcc.ac.uk

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justinh:

server ntp2b.mcc.ac.uk

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justinh:

hahaha oops

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mr_claus:

Dibblah: seems that 16bit depth solve the problem, thx for your help

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** justinh appeals to the world to stop using epia boards **

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Dibblah:

justinh: Don't do that.

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justinh:

oh yeah I need to sell my old junk :)

[17:44:27]

mr_claus:

Dibblah: if its not working i will wait until the new board arrive

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Dibblah:

You're hurting my head.

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Dibblah:

127.127.1.0?

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Dibblah:

And what's wrong with pool.ntp.org?

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justinh:

dunno it was just in my ntp.conf

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Dibblah:

Ick.

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justinh:

default dapper

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CIDR:

got a quad core 2.4 on the way

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justinh:

if mplayer won't attempt to use a 2nd core on the files you're trying, what use is 4 cores?

[17:48:56]

justinh:

heh. "installation was quiet easy". better than loud easy any day

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Dibblah:

That all depends. :)

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CIDR:

justinh nah

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CIDR:

it's a quad 2.66

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CIDR:

instead of a dual 1.86

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CIDR:

got it on the cheap

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CIDR:

Not sure if I should use it in my front end of backend

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justinh:

that elkin-wide used to be ok. what's happened to it?

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Massif:

Can someone help me with a kde startup script?

[17:52:04]

justinh:

is this #kde ?

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** BULLE just went with a 3ghz dualcore instead of a quadcore **

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Massif:

well it's mythtv related

[17:52:33]

CIDR:

I have a quad 2.66 and a dual 1.86, dunno which one I'm going to use where

[17:52:45]

Massif:

I'm trying to autostart mythtv and then shutdown the computer when mythtv exits

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Dibblah:

Massif: Why not just suspend?

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Massif:

can any user suspend?

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javatexan:

help!!! ;)

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javatexan:

my backend keeps crashing

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** BULLE points javatexan in that direction ----> **

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javatexan:

lol thanks BULLE

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BULLE:

javatexan: and the logs say what ?

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javatexan:

log? which one

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BULLE:

yeah, wich one, thats the tricky part

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Massif:

javatexan: usually /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log

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iamlindoro__:

hmmm, backend is crashing, wonder which log... ;)

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BULLE:

iamlindoro__: indeed, very tricky question!

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iamlindoro__:

;)

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javatexan:

i meant more where did it live.... find on / takes a while... LMAO

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javatexan:

okay...it logs me in as an admin why would I get :Unable to open lockfile! the directory and that file are writeable by this user.

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Massif:

are you running mythtv as root?

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javatexan:

backend made that file.....so why would it not have rights to it

[18:02:12]

javatexan:

no...but the user is an admin

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javatexan:

okay..thats weird...lock file is 777

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javatexan:

LMAO...now what

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javatexan:

yeah...its up again...but for how long.

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BULLE:

so check the logs, why it crashed ............... .. .. .. .. . . . . . . . . . .

[18:05:00]

javatexan:

i am actually not sure who mythtv logs in as. Its just a mythbunu install with the ubuntu desktop added

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cesman:

javatexan: open an xterm and type who

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javatexan:

its the one I thought it was: used whoami

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javatexan:

so the user is admin and mythtv

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iamlindoro__:

javatexan, nobody here can help you if we never see logs and all we get is commentary on what you think is up

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javatexan:

sorry

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javatexan:

it was failing because it could not open the lock file...it seems to be happy now

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iamlindoro__:

Oh, btw, I asked this last night but I don't think anyone knew... how does one specify the swscaler in SVN? I tried a number of things in the filter options of playback profiles, but if it's done from there, then I don't know the syntax

[18:27:49]

mr_claus:

Dibblah: with 800x600x16bit it works, if the stream stop a short while after every 2–3 seconds the machine is to slow right?

[18:28:49]

Dibblah:

I have no idea. But as justinh said, kissing lepers is more constructive than trying to use an EPIA.

[18:29:04]

mchou:

lol

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Dibblah:

iamlindoro__: There is no swscaler support in Myth.

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iamlindoro__:

Dibblah, there certainly is

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Dibblah:

There certainly is not. ;)

[18:30:04]

iamlindoro__:

That /libs/libswscale isn't there for decoration

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Dibblah:

Really? Where's it linked from?

[18:30:48]

Dibblah:

To clarify, there *is* a software scaler.

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Dibblah:

But... It is impossibly slow *and* nasty quality.

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Dibblah:

It's what you get when you use NO_XV=1

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mr_claus:

Dibblah: no, i didn't use no_xv=1 with the new resolution

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Dibblah:

(That directory AFAIK was pulled in from a ffmpeg sync)

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mr_claus:

Dibblah: 16 bit color depth with 800x600 works without NO_XV=1

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Dibblah:

I'd be glad to be proved wrong, of course.

[18:32:21]

Andycasss:

How to fix hostname in myth? When i changed it, it couldnt connect to backend

[18:32:21]

iamlindoro__:

Dibblah, In particular I am referring to http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/2287, and per discussions here yesterday, Mythtv-vid is now merged

[18:32:23]

Dibblah:

mr_claus: I guessed that. Seperate discussion ...

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iamlindoro__:

First line under section marked "Filters"

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iamlindoro__:

re lanczos scaling

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Dibblah:

iamlindoro__: Right... Okay...

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iamlindoro__:

And, according to my understanding of conversations here yesterday, Lanczos is a high quality software scaler

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Dibblah:

And the reasons that ticket are not closed...?

[18:34:02]

Dibblah:

is not closed...

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Andycasss:

anyone? How to change hostname in myth?

[18:34:49]

Anduin:

Andycasss: instructions are in the main mythtv.org docs

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Dibblah:

Would be because it's not merged into trunk in it's entirety.

[18:36:38]

iamlindoro__:

Is that to say that that *particular* functionality has not been merged? I only ask because what I heard yesterday seemed to indicate that it had been

[18:37:20]

Dibblah:

AFAIK, no it is not merged.

[18:37:34]

Dibblah:

You can select currently OpenGL or XV.

[18:38:02]

Dibblah:

Who was saying it had been merged?

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iamlindoro__:

Not going to throw anyone else under the bus, let's just assume I misunderstood and leave it at that

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Dibblah:

iamlindoro__: Yeah, just tested. swscale isn't even compiled.

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iamlindoro__:

Ah well. Eventually I suppose.

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Dibblah:

It was pulled in with r14800

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Dibblah:

janneg would know more, though ;)

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Andycasss:

i keep getting "access denied when trying to connect" when i try to "$ mysqldump -u mythtv -pmythtv mythconverg -c > mythtv_backup.sql"

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Dibblah:

(About libswscale that was pulled in with the ffmpeg sync @ r14800)

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Andycasss:

the pass is my mythtv pass, ofcourse

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Andycasss:

Ive tried the same with root – still the same

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Dibblah:

specifically, it's not currently used?

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Dibblah:

Andycasss: -umythtv

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Dibblah:

No space.

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Andycasss:

oh, thanks

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Dibblah:

iamlindoro__: "import of libswscale (unused atm)"

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Dibblah:

Knew it was documented somewhere.

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iamlindoro__:

Dibblah, that's a commit log from two ffmpeg syncs ago, didn't mean it hadn't been used *since* then

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Dibblah:

iamlindoro__: Okay. However, it is.

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iamlindoro__:

fair enough

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Dibblah:

iamlindoro__: I'm not _completely_ convinced that it won't be used with NO_XV=1

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Dibblah:

If you've done the configure magic.

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CIDR:

Will myth grab video covers from imdb?

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iamlindoro__:

yes

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CIDR:

Whenever I ente the imdb number for a video, it says there's a cover file, but it doesn't exsist of display

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iamlindoro__:

Then you probably haven't set up properly, and it's probably trying to write the covers to a directory that doesn't exist or to which you have no permissions

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CIDR:

Thanks

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CIDR:

checking it up

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CIDR:

out

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muxx:

hi guys. when I try to run myth.find_orphans.pl, I get an error

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muxx:

DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Table 'mythconverg.storagegroup' doesn't exist at ./myth.find_orphans.pl line 251

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lizaoreo:

Hey guys, is there a way to remove a plugin (such as mythflix) without removing mythtv? I tried just removing the package from the fedora 8 package manager, but it tries to remove mythtv as a dependency.

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iamlindoro__:

lizaoreo, you can just edit it out of the xml

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lizaoreo:

Oh, works for me, but how would I edit it out?

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Dibblah:

or remove it from /usr/lib/mythtv/plugins

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Dibblah:

... Which is slightly more correct.

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CIDR:

Got it, thanks.

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Dibblah:

But... If your package manager is saying that Myth depends on the plugins, it's broken.

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Andycass1:

how to kill backend?

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Dibblah:

killall mythbackend

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rhpot1991:

no

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rhpot1991:

sudo /etc/init.d/mythbackend stop

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Andycass1:

its not getting launched from init.d

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rhpot1991:

ok then what Dibblah said

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Dibblah:

rhpot1991: That depends on the distribution and the user configuration. ;)

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** rhpot1991 apologizes to Dibblah **

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Dibblah:

No need – Was just clarifying.

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rhpot1991:

I like to assume everyone does everything the exact way I do :)

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MythbuntuGuest81:

Anyone in here use the AverMedia A180? I'm having trouble setting it up.

[19:19:13]

The_Rebel:

hey there

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MythbuntuGuest81:

hey Rebel

[19:19:26]

The_Rebel:

i got a bit of a problem with my Mythtv setup..

[19:19:41]

The_Rebel:

well its more of a software module problem

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MythbuntuGuest81:

me too :D

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iamlindoro__:

MythbuntuGuest81, I have before, did you follow all the instructions on the wiki?

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The_Rebel:

but i can't use myth because of it

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The_Rebel:

has anyone ever heard of the isl6421 dynamic current limit with NOVA-S cards?

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MythbuntuGuest81:

iamlindoro – Not sure. I assumed Mythbuntu preinstalled everything I needed for the Card

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iamlindoro__:

http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/AVerTV_HD_A180

[19:20:40]

MythbuntuGuest81:

It appears s-video and composite are working just not the tuner function of the card.

[19:20:48]

The_Rebel:

im trying to enable the patch so i can actually power a 4X1 Disecq switch

[19:21:04]

The_Rebel:

but i dont know where to pass on the modprob options

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directhex:

The_Rebel, i've heard of low current problems with some dvb-s cards, but no details

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iamlindoro__:

MythbuntuGuest81, You probably need to a) download and isntall the proper firmware where your distro keeps it (probably /lib/firmware) and b) modprobe saa7134-dvb

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iamlindoro__:

Follow that wiki link

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MythbuntuGuest81:

iamlindoro_ I already did the suggestiosn on that page

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iamlindoro__:

You downloaded the firmware and installed it in /lib/firmware, AND modprobed saa7134-dvb?

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MythbuntuGuest81:

WHen I'm in Mythbuntu's setup I get "Failed to open the Card" when I attempt to Scan for Channels

[19:25:57]

iamlindoro__:

did you set it up as the proper card type?

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lizaoreo:

Dibblah: or remove it from /usr/lib/mythtv/plugins

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MythbuntuGuest81:

how can I tell if it's the proper card type?

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lizaoreo:

If I were to do this, would I need to rerun the myth backend setup?

[19:26:28]

MythbuntuGuest81:

i believe it detected it as type 75 which is the right one for the A180

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iamlindoro__:

By setting it up as the card type mentioned on the wiki?

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iamlindoro__:

Read section "Adding Tuner to MythTV"

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MythbuntuGuest81:

firmware directory contains dvb-fe-nxt2004.fw

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MythbuntuGuest81:

so I'd assume the firmware is there

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iamlindoro__:

do you have a /dev/dvb?

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MythbuntuGuest81:

yep. Only thing in there is adapter0

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iamlindoro__:

fine

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iamlindoro__:

so did you set it up as the correct card type, again?

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MythbuntuGuest81:

looks to be from dmesg

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iamlindoro__:

no

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iamlindoro__:

ARGH

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MythbuntuGuest81:

you mean in mythtv?

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iamlindoro__:

I quote myself:

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iamlindoro__:

Read section "Adding Tuner to MythTV"

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MythbuntuGuest81:

yeah that's done

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iamlindoro__:

And you added it as *DVB* type, yes?

[19:30:36]

MythbuntuGuest81:

I selected DVB DTV capture card (v3.x).

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iamlindoro__:

not v4l?

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CIDR:

Anyone mess with a hdmi output card?

[19:30:52]

MythbuntuGuest81:

not v4l

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iamlindoro__:

What is your capture source, QAM, OTA, etc

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MythbuntuGuest81:

OTA

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iamlindoro__:

Did you set the correct modulation type and frequency table before attempting to scan?

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MythbuntuGuest81:

^^ Bingo

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MythbuntuGuest81:

How do I do that?

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iamlindoro__:

It's on the channel scan page, before you start the scan

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iamlindoro__:

8VSB, Us bcast

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MythbuntuGuest81:

Thank you iamlindoro, I really appreciate it.

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iamlindoro__:

Did it work?

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iamlindoro__:

no problem

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MythbuntuGuest81:

Scanning channels now :D

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iamlindoro__:

good

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iamlindoro__:

ok, good luck

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MythbuntuGuest81:

I thougth that section was just for EPG. Don't subscribe to one yet

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MythbuntuGuest81:

Which is what confused me

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Andycass1:

I changed my hostname, now im stuck with this command: mysql -u mythtv -pmythtv mythconverg < mythtv_restore.sql, it tells me that "theres duplicate entry at cpu++-andycas-desktop for key 1"

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Andycass1:

:(

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cccp:

/win 20

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Dibblah:

CIDR: HDMI is just DVI in a more compact connector.

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Dibblah:

With some audio fuzz that doesn't actually work under any driver set I've seen.

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Andycass1:

whats wrong in here: "cat mythtv_backup.sql | sed s/\'frontend1\'/\'kidsroom\'/g >> mythtv_restore.sql" When i "grep kidsroom mythtv_restore.sql" i get no output???

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Dibblah:

Andycass1: Without really looking, your quoting.

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Dibblah:

sed -e "s/search/replace/"

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Dibblah:

sorry – That probably won't work.

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Andycass1:

Why not?

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Dibblah:

sed -e "s/search/replace/g"

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Dibblah:

The lines are _long_ in a mysql dump ;)

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Andycass1:

ok.. do i need to use \ after the hostname? (kidsroom\)

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dserban:

Can someone clarify a thing or two for me? I've looked through the wiki, while very helpful, I cannot find a definite explanation on how myth can work with a remote back end. So... Here's my question, if I have multiple front ends, and multiple backends... each back end having one or more capture cards, can all of the front ends access those back end boards? (ie. watch tv from one back end with frontend 1 and frontend 2 wa

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dserban:

tch tv from the same back end, tuner 2?... I'm unclear how the video data works... does it get streamed to the front ends? or are shows "downloaded" then viewed?

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Dibblah:

I hace no idea.

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Dibblah:

have, even.

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Andycass1:

I did the same sed -e "s/search/replace/g" before, but without the "\", it corrupted the db

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Dibblah:

dserban: Streamed.

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dserban:

Dibblah, ahh cool mpeg-2 native? or..?

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Dibblah:

Andycass1: Why are you doing that anyway?

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Dibblah:

dserban: Whatever format your recording is in.

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Andycass1:

Dibblah: because my hostname changed

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Dibblah:

Andycass1: I'm fairly sure that's documented somewhere.

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dserban:

I see. Cool, so I must have some fairly hefty available network bandwidth.... gigabit cards?... or would you say that a wireless b/g connection would suffice?

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dserban:

(hate to rip out walls heh)

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Dibblah:

Maybe in... The documentation...?

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Dibblah:

Wireless G would work.

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Andycass1:

it is, i followed the guide but its not working

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dserban:

nice nice...

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Andycass1:

the same long sed line i gave before, was from guide

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Dibblah:

If you don't have anyone else around your house.

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dserban:

so i can hide are the nasty guts under the stairs... and just put a front end at every tv?

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Dibblah:

No mobile phones, no microwaves... ;)

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dserban:

\o/ hah!

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Dibblah:

_most_ of the time, wireless should work.

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Dibblah:

Easiest way to find out is to try it.

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dserban:

I wonder... what's a good cheap front end that's powerful enough for those needs? aye I'll give it a shot tonight see what comes of it...

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dserban:

I have a repeater, the signal is quite strong... everywhere in the house and a couple of high-gain antennas

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Dibblah:

EPIAs are popular. A really bad choice, but popular.

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dserban:

yeah... is there an itx form factor board that'll be more responsive?

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Dibblah:

Just about anything in the current generation is going to be easily acceptable.

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dserban:

or... I could just try to find a decent case and try to fit a matx board in there

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dserban:

Dibblah, you're talking epia?

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Dibblah:

I'm using a core2 mobile motherboard.

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dserban:

oh? matx or itx?

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Dibblah:

I would seriously recommend steering away from EPIA.

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Dibblah:

mini-atx, I think.

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dserban:

yeah i've never been interested in it... all the reports are bad performance-wise

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Dibblah:

Whatever has space for 2 PCI / 2 PCIe.

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Dibblah:

You can get a reasonably cheap low-end core2 from ebay – People love upgrading dem laptops! :)

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dserban:

yep mini... those are a dime a dozen... last question... other than silverstone... can someone recommend a case that's small, but can take a full-size dvd drive and have a built-in ir receiver?

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justinh:

I wouldn't recommend you buy a silverstone. I have an lc02 & it has FA airflow

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justinh:

talking about cases with inbuilt IR windows, there aren't many suitable for only a frontend and which aren't butt ugly

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dserban:

justinh, that's too bad... yeah I just googled for one... can't find $__T

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Cyberai:

I just upgraded to the apt bleeding (0.21) version and now my frontend is giving me that message about the backend using protocol 31 when it wants 36. How do I force my backend to upgrade?

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CIDR:

Hmm keyboard control of mplayer isn't working, any ideas?

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Dibblah:

Cyberai: ... Run the same upgrade on the backend machine?

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Cyberai:

well, I think that's part of it. I have a 'sandbox" system with mythtv on it. But the box I upgraded is it's own backend. It keeps trying to set itself to the sandbox machine, and I can't change it in the frontend. It gives me database errors when I try.

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Cyberai:

I dont want to upgrade the sandbox

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Dibblah:

Yeah, and people in #mythtv are all just bored too.

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Dibblah:

Noone is currently sifting through tickets, etc ;)

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CIDR:

Anyone know why my keyboard won't control mplayer in myth?

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fryfrog:

focus?

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fryfrog:

are you using a wm?

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CIDR:

Yes.

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CIDR:

EvilWM

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CIDR:

A really really lightweight wm

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hashbang:

heya there

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hashbang:

anyone know stuff about mytharchive/mythtranscode

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hashbang:

?

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Dibblah:

hashbang: Stupid question. Ask the real one.

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hashbang:

heh – ok

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hashbang:

I had a slightly damaged recording that mythtranscode failed on when trying to use the cutlist

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hashbang:

I told mytharchive to re-encode, but the resulting DVD title was very jerky – like the fields were the wrong way round or something

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hashbang:

mytharchive 0.20.2 fixes 14921

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hashbang:

ditto for mythtv-frontend

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Dibblah:

Playing the DVD in what?

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hashbang:

a proper DVD player

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Dibblah:

Try it in the Myth box and see what happens.

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hashbang:

if I don't re-encode, all is well

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hashbang:

but, of course, on this specific one, not re-encoding causes the damage to crash mythtranscode on the commercial cutting

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CIDR:

I can't get myth to launch on bootup for the life of me.

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CIDR:

Keep messing with my xsession and stuff, but it doesn't seem to matter

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hashbang:

Dibblah: FYI, playing the DVD using MythTV's internal DVD player works fine

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sinthetek:

is there any way to implement lirc modes with mythtv to help mitigate it's "grabby" behavior?

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AndyCap:

via vesa mount pc. seems to be way underpowered though. http://www.via.com.tw/en/products/embedded/vm7700/

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CIDR:

Anyway to keep mythmusic playing while browsing other menues?

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GreyFoxx:

Only in svn trunk

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GreyFoxx:

When you exit mythmusic in SVN it asks if you want the music to keep playing

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jams:

heh that should be the only feature listed in the next release notes. AFter all thats the only thing people seem to care about.

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GreyFoxx:

heh

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CIDR:

Ah, awesome

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GreyFoxx:

http://www.miffteevee.co.uk/imagebin/mythmusic_miniplayer2.png

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GreyFoxx:

At the bottom is the miniplayer

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CIDR:

I'll check it out

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CIDR:

literally check out the snv

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CIDR:

ermm svn, just the most recent revision?

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GreyFoxx:

It's been in there for a week or so

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GreyFoxx:

I run the multirec branch which is about a week behind trunk

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CIDR:

Hmm, alright

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CIDR:

I was just checking out what was in my package manager but I'll probably have to use svn

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CIDR:

mythtv-0.21_pre15014 probably not recent enough?

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jams:

hopefully motivation to finish this diskless stuff comes back in the next few days. With a 4 day weekend i could get a lot done.

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GreyFoxx:

hehe I'm hoping to get stuff done over the next week since I'm on vacation

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jams:

i suppose if it doesn't then I will spend time playing FF 12

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GreyFoxx:

though most of the daytime hours will be family occupied

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iamlindoro__:

I think the miniplayer went in in 15091

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CIDR:

Thanks

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GreyFoxx:

want to get some stuff done before 0.21 freeze

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jams:

anything big or just applying my sig usvr1 patch =)

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GreyFoxx:

that among a couple others :)

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directhex:

GreyFoxx, was it you who was looking at xbox 360 upnp?

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GreyFoxx:

poking at it the other day yeah

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GreyFoxx:

now that it can play xvid/divx

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directhex:

did you make any progress? it seems bizarre to me that every upnp client i see is fine, including windows media player, but not the 360

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GreyFoxx:

It takes some reverse engineering

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GreyFoxx:

the 360 doesn't use standard methods of browsing content

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javatexan:

do all my videos have to be in a single folder for mythtv video?

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GreyFoxx:

but the recent update seems to be closer to standard

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GreyFoxx:

javatexan: no, I have all mine in subdirectories

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directhex:

javatexan, not at all

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GreyFoxx:

directhex: a lot of apps have special modes for dealing with 360's

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javatexan:

cool...I was worried about having 100 or so in there

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Anduin:

javatexan: You can also separate multiple roots with a : in the settings page

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GreyFoxx:

javatexan: I have 2400 in various subdirs

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CIDR:

Sweet, i didn't know that

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directhex:

GreyFoxx, typical. MS write a standard, and fail miserably to implement it

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GreyFoxx:

directhex: yeah

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javatexan:

wow...mind if i browse?

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javatexan:

;)

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GreyFoxx:

directhex: but I'm hoping to make progress on that this weekend after Ifinish xmas shopping Saturday :)

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directhex:

GreyFoxx, at least the intel upnp tools make reverse engineering a little more friendly

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GreyFoxx:

javatexan: never :)

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javatexan:

ill just hook my fe to your be...no wait...thats sounds bad...I am not harassing you....LMAO

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javatexan:

i guess in theory with VPN that would be doable

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