| Sunday, December 16th, 2007, 00:01 UTC | ||
| [00:01:45] | hachi: | like they were saying, it could be related to tickless... check your cpufreq stuff in /sys and make sure it's on 'performance' and not something like 'ondemand' |
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| [00:02:08] | hachi: | er, not tickless |
| [00:02:16] | hachi: | variable cpu speed... or maybe tickless |
| [00:02:20] | hachi: | or both |
| [00:02:25] | hachi: | cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor |
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| [00:06:06] | xand: | tickles :> |
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| [00:16:14] | hachi: | directhex: there are bug reports marked as 'wontfix' in the xorg bugzilla saying that this is a problem with the nv driver |
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| [00:20:51] | psofa: | damn myth |
| [00:21:00] | psofa: | the dvb-s channel went down |
| [00:21:08] | psofa: | and my recording stopped prematurelly |
| [00:21:19] | psofa: | although the channel went up in like 2 mins |
| [00:21:24] | ** psofa kicks his box ** | |
| [00:21:59] | psofa: | anyone knows of some setting to prevent this thing? |
| [00:22:03] | squish102: | using nuvexport what is a decent video bitrate when taking SD content to Xvid? (default to 768?) |
| [00:22:27] | psofa: | like when sth bad happens try indefinitely to retune to channel |
| [00:23:13] | anykey_: | psofa: well, the scheduler will search for another showing of the same show later on... |
| [00:23:50] | psofa: | yeah it would be beneficial if i wasnt watching the recording 15mins after start :) |
| [00:24:03] | psofa: | im already waiting for the next slot in 40mins |
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| [00:24:16] | anykey_: | Well, why would a dvb-s channel go down anyway? |
| [00:24:30] | psofa: | it must be my dish |
| [00:24:39] | psofa: | im borderline in range |
| [00:24:39] | DapOrp: | low flying UFO. |
| [00:24:56] | psofa: | so some times it will stop tuning for like 1–2 mins |
| [00:25:00] | psofa: | and then come back fine |
| [00:25:05] | anykey_: | get a bigger dish then ;) |
| [00:25:44] | psofa: | if i install it the same way as my current id be a danger to the neighborhood |
| [00:25:50] | psofa: | :) |
| [00:25:56] | anykey_: | hehehe |
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| [00:32:48] | Toxicity999: | Skimmed the console, when the video randomly speeds up, I get a shit ton of audio buffer complaints, "NVP::AddAudioData():p1: Audio buffer overflow, audio data lost!" |
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| [00:34:05] | kavorka^: | does anyone know what it means if i have a high signal but low snr for a particular channel? |
| [00:34:25] | anykey_: | kavorka^: do you use an amp? |
| [00:34:47] | kavorka^: | no i dont |
| [00:35:03] | anykey_: | hm, i'm out of ideas then |
| [00:35:10] | anykey_: | it usually means that your signal is too strong |
| [00:35:19] | anykey_: | at least I think so |
| [00:36:01] | kavorka^: | actually let me rephrase....my signal is about 54% and snr is 97–100% for all channels but 1. on the problem channel snr = 87% which causes it to break up |
| [00:36:18] | kavorka^: | but on the second tuner (usb) snr = 92% and it seems to be ok |
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| [00:36:33] | tcpsyn: | gents. |
| [00:36:35] | tcpsyn: | and ladies |
| [00:36:37] | tcpsyn: | evening. |
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| [00:37:07] | kavorka^: | does low snr mean there's interference? |
| [00:37:27] | anykey_: | yes, I think so. Usually it means to much "noise" on the signal |
| [00:37:50] | anykey_: | maybe something in your computer is interfering with it? I assume you have an internal and external (usb) tuner? |
| [00:38:33] | kavorka^: | yeah onboard pci tuner and the 2nd is a usb tuner....its the onboard tuner thats problematic....it used to work fine a month back |
| [00:38:53] | anykey_: | did you change anything? ;) |
| [00:39:23] | kavorka^: | anykey_: i think u could be on to something...ive just checked the cabling on the roof to the antenna and straightened out any kinks etc...no difference |
| [00:39:35] | kavorka^: | no apart from uprading myth |
| [00:40:06] | kavorka^: | it might be worth to try a difference pci slot |
| [00:41:22] | kavorka^: | status SCVYL | signal 54% | snr 92% | ber 0 | unc 0 | FE_HAS_LOCK – thats what femon tells me about that channel, do u think the signal is too low? |
| [00:41:35] | anykey_: | well, ber and unc are 0 |
| [00:41:39] | anykey_: | so you should be ok |
| [00:41:58] | kavorka^: | whereas on the other tuner snr varies between 0%-33%-88% |
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| [00:48:23] | hachi: | is opengl rendering better than qt? |
| [00:48:54] | DapOrp: | it pretty much all sucks. |
| [00:49:00] | DapOrp: | look for the telepathy plugin. |
| [00:49:06] | DapOrp: | beams it right into your brain. |
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| [00:49:48] | kavorka^: | hachi: you talking about menu effects? |
| [00:50:43] | hachi: | I dunno, there was some option |
| [00:50:49] | hachi: | I'm still getting my xserver going again |
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| [00:52:04] | kavorka^: | yeah all opengl it does is make the menu transitions look slicker..so i'd say yes. i had to go back to qt as there is some bug that makes my menu browsing really slow |
| [00:52:22] | kavorka^: | it comes and goes |
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| [01:09:17] | black_Nightmare_: | hey |
| [01:09:32] | black_Nightmare_: | anyone here heard of Y2K or Codegen sold psu? |
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| [01:12:20] | hachi: | aaaaaaaaaa, I've got a bunch of overrides and crap in my upcoming recordings list how |
| [01:12:31] | hachi: | how do I the general concept of 'record this show' ? |
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| [01:12:39] | hachi: | er |
| [01:12:47] | hachi: | don't record this show anymore, even though I said to |
| [01:13:53] | hachi: | ahh, there we go... find one without an override and tell it to 'don't record this show' again |
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| [01:17:29] | antiPosix: | hi |
| [01:19:56] | hachi: | ooof, tuning settings for mpeg4 |
| [01:20:15] | hachi: | anyone got input on this subject? |
| [01:20:38] | hachi: | 2200 scaled for capture size, 720x480... with the interlaced dct and motion estimator |
| [01:20:48] | hachi: | on a 2GHz processor, it's running out of cpu time |
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| [02:02:30] | directhex: | hachi, buy a pvr150, if you need to capture analog low-def. it'll leave your cpu alone, but get the best picture quality you're likely to get given your signal source |
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| [02:04:12] | hachi: | I see no reason when I should be switching to digital soon |
| [02:04:31] | hachi: | I switched to rtjpeg, it'll work fine |
| [02:04:37] | hachi: | I've got 1.3TB free right now |
| [02:05:30] | ** clever drools ** | |
| [02:09:34] | cccp: | morgen! |
| [02:12:03] | hachi: | sitting at the main menu, mythfrontend is taking up 30% of my 2GHz cpu |
| [02:12:08] | hachi: | this seems a little... wasteful |
| [02:14:01] | directhex: | gl or qt painter? |
| [02:14:52] | hachi: | gl |
| [02:15:16] | rooaus: | hachi: GANT or MeoPo? |
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| [02:16:03] | directhex: | themes with animation will consume cpu time when idle. is your direct rendering definitely working? |
| [02:16:19] | hachi: | GANT |
| [02:16:30] | hachi: | heck if I know |
| [02:16:35] | hachi: | but there's no animation visible |
| [02:17:10] | directhex: | try running "glxinfo | grep direct" in a console in your X session |
| [02:17:11] | hachi: | it was actually consuming 0% until it started recording something, but it's just sitting at the main menu |
| [02:18:47] | hachi: | direct rendering: Yes |
| [02:18:56] | rooaus: | hachi: The mythtv logo has an alpha pulse effect iirc, it fades in and out. |
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| [02:19:26] | hachi: | blah |
| [02:20:03] | maelstrom: | i seem to be having a problem pulling down listings information ... it is connecting to SchedulesDirect as far as I can tell but everything is "Channel ##"... can anyone help me ? |
| [02:20:46] | hachi: | indeed, I see the animation now |
| [02:21:04] | hachi: | that seems like such a waste for a subtle animation that I couldn't even see till I was looking for it |
| [02:25:44] | clever: | directhex: i find my fe uses cpu when paused in video |
| [02:25:48] | rooaus: | hachi: When recording it should be mythbackend that chews up CPU cycles not the frontend. It is the backend that does the RTJpeg encoding from the framegrabber. |
| [02:26:00] | clever: | directhex: if plan to pause long term i bookmark and exit out |
| [02:26:17] | hachi: | yeah, I was just talking about the behavior I observed |
| [02:26:24] | hachi: | at least, as I percieved it |
| [02:29:53] | hachi: | I'll just get a faster computer for the recording side of things :\ |
| [02:30:15] | hachi: | does mythtv thread the recording at all? |
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| [02:48:37] | Jason23: | Hi |
| [02:49:13] | Jason23: | I'm have some trouble with myth and I can't find any help on it when searching the web |
| [02:50:43] | Jason23: | All myth apps get to the 3rd line "New DB Connection" and stop |
| [02:52:00] | bsdfox: | check mysql.txt |
| [02:53:07] | Jason23: | It was working yesterday, however I upgraded ubuntu to 7.10 |
| [02:53:23] | Jason23: | Do I need to change the DBType? |
| [02:54:27] | bsdfox: | doubt it |
| [02:54:38] | bsdfox: | see if you can manually connect to the mysql server |
| [02:54:52] | bsdfox: | mysql -u USERNAME -H HOSTNAME -p |
| [02:55:01] | Jason23: | Yeah that work fine |
| [02:56:25] | Jason23: | Sorry, figure out the problem hostname |
| [02:56:40] | clever: | how much work would it be to build a .deb from mythtv svn? |
| [02:57:03] | bsdfox: | clever: if you know how to make a .deb it should be straight forward |
| [02:57:14] | clever: | havent made one in the past |
| [02:57:33] | clever: | and id think it would help to have those scripts into svn so others could benefit from it |
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| [02:59:27] | Jason23: | QUIT |
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| [03:01:44] | bsdfox: | clever: not everyone runs debian :P |
| [03:01:47] | bsdfox: | or ubuntu |
| [03:01:50] | clever: | yeah |
| [03:01:54] | clever: | but it will help those who do |
| [03:02:07] | clever: | and a rpm helper along side would catch the redhat/fedora users |
| [03:02:36] | bsdfox: | lame |
| [03:03:04] | clever: | its mainly because lib's mth needs are showing as unneeded in apt |
| [03:03:17] | clever: | if it was a proper .deb installed apt would know they are needed |
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| [03:40:54] | edge: | my mythbox keeps giving me a error in the log saying that VIDEOCGMBUF is getting a invaild arguement and wont start live tv, i decided to try mythdora and im not sure its gonna workout well |
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| [04:10:25] | cesman: | edge: have you google'd that error? |
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| [04:26:10] | maelstrom: | i seem to be having a problem pulling down listings information ... it is connecting to SchedulesDirect as far as I can tell but everything is "Channel ##"... can anyone help me ? |
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| [04:49:27] | kylel: | have any of you setup mythtv to transcode to divx for streaming via divx webplayer? |
| [04:49:49] | kylel: | or more correctly to my question, do any of you know if its possible? |
| [04:50:26] | kylel: | I seen a link transcoding to flv with ffmpeg. ffmpeg (I believe) will also output divx, however I'm a little unsure of the web player aspect of it |
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| [05:16:07] | leprasmurf: | Hello all, Does anyone have a decent way to extract VBI from MPEG and to use them after encoding to Xvid? |
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| [05:20:17] | code-rr: | Hi, when i upgrade to kernel 2.6.22 from 2.6.18 my DVB card (NOVA-S based on blackbird i beleave) will no longer lock. any ideas why |
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| [05:26:45] | Kernel: | hmm comcast seems to have changed and/or dropped a few channels from there normal cable...is SD gonna fix it so the channels are correct? |
| [05:29:32] | Kernel: | i checked there forum and it said to ask in the mythtv forum..which i saw not additional post |
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| [05:58:13] | echosyp: | how do i find out what channel frequency table my provider uses |
| [05:58:46] | J-e-f-f-A: | echosyp: Where are you located? |
| [05:59:07] | echosyp: | lubbock tx |
| [05:59:33] | mchou: | J-e-f-f-A-2: hey, what version of KDE are you using on the system we talked about yesterday? |
| [05:59:46] | mchou: | echosyp: who is cableco? |
| [05:59:52] | echosyp: | SuddenLink |
| [06:00:04] | mchou: | echosyp: hmm, never heard of them |
| [06:00:09] | J-e-f-f-A: | mchou: Umm... I dunno, let me check... |
| [06:00:14] | echosyp: | used to be Cox |
| [06:00:25] | mchou: | echosyp: ok, that's helpful |
| [06:00:52] | J-e-f-f-A: | mchou: 3.5.8–1.fc6 Fedora |
| [06:01:21] | mchou: | J-e-f-f-A-2: in konsole, do "kdeconfig --version" |
| [06:01:32] | mchou: | need to know all details :) |
| [06:01:44] | echosyp: | ? |
| [06:02:04] | mchou: | echosyp: no, last comment was for J-e-f-f-A-2 |
| [06:02:58] | echosyp: | im wondering why im not picking up any channels when i scan |
| [06:03:00] | J-e-f-f-A: | echosyp: Just set it to US Cable and scan for channels... You should get any open analog channels fine. |
| [06:03:10] | echosyp: | will try |
| [06:03:22] | mchou: | echosyp: in any case it should be too hard to find out, you only have 3 choices in US |
| [06:03:26] | J-e-f-f-A: | echosyp: If you set it to 'US Bcast", you'll only get channels 2–13. |
| [06:03:44] | mchou: | echosyp: cable-std, cable-hrc, and cable-irc :) |
| [06:03:51] | justdave: | hmm, so I changed the hostname of my box (I know, stupid thing to do, but it had a stupid name that it shipped with because it had Ubuntu already pre-installed on it, and I finally got around to giving it a real one) |
| [06:04:00] | echosyp: | which one is it? |
| [06:04:03] | justdave: | I remapped the settings in the settings table in the database from the old name to the new one |
| [06:04:06] | J-e-f-f-A: | mchou: Umm... kdeconfig --version says "bash: kdeconfig: command not found" ... strange.. |
| [06:04:13] | echosyp: | iv tried a few of them with similar results |
| [06:04:15] | justdave: | but it still can't find my tuner card... |
| [06:04:25] | mchou: | J-e-f-f-A-2: maybe it's kde-config :) |
| [06:04:25] | justdave: | the status page shows it's at the old hostname and not connected |
| [06:05:01] | mchou: | justdave: whre did you get a system with ubuntu pre-installed? |
| [06:05:07] | mchou: | where* |
| [06:05:28] | justdave: | I ran mythtv-setup and readded the tuner card, and it shows up in mythtv-setup now, but it still doesn't show up in mythfrontend |
| [06:05:56] | justdave: | mchou: from a custom-build shop a year or so ago that I don't think is in business anymore |
| [06:06:15] | J-e-f-f-A: | mchou: Yeah, much better.... Qt: 3.38 KDE: 3.5.8–1.fc6 Fedora kde-config: 1.0 |
| [06:07:11] | echosyp: | yeah, i just tried us-cable-hrc, -irc, and bcast, none picked up more channels than the other |
| [06:07:23] | mchou: | justdave: that's cause you probably have multiple myth/mysql.txt files lying around on your system |
| [06:07:29] | J-e-f-f-A: | echosyp: Do you have 'digital' cable? |
| [06:07:30] | mchou: | J-e-f-f-A-2: ok, thx |
| [06:07:32] | echosyp: | yes |
| [06:07:44] | echosyp: | i have an HD dvr in the other room |
| [06:07:51] | justdave: | mysql.txt points at localhost |
| [06:07:53] | justdave: | and did before |
| [06:07:55] | J-e-f-f-A: | echosyp: That's way, then... There are probably very few analog channels. |
| [06:08:02] | justdave: | the localhost name shouldn't have changed. :) |
| [06:08:03] | echosyp: | but this line isn't plugged into it |
| [06:08:20] | echosyp: | the tv, when plugged into the outlet picks up alot of channels |
| [06:08:27] | echosyp: | 2–64 ish |
| [06:08:28] | mchou: | justdave: no, but where is the master backend and mysql running? |
| [06:08:34] | justdave: | mchou: on the same box |
| [06:08:42] | J-e-f-f-A: | echosyp: You may need a signal amplifier then. What's your tuner card? |
| [06:08:50] | echosyp: | pvrusb2 |
| [06:08:53] | justdave: | this is the master backend that I'm messing with |
| [06:09:15] | mchou: | justdave: "cat /etc/hosts" |
| [06:09:40] | echosyp: | there is a 3-way splitter on the only line into the apt, only two connected, living room and the cable run to my room |
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| [06:09:54] | justdave: | that has the old hostname on 127.0.1.1 and localhost on 127.0.0.1 |
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| [06:09:56] | mchou: | echosyp: there's the problem right there |
| [06:10:00] | J-e-f-f-A: | echosyp: Did you try using the tv on the same cable that's going to your tuner card? You may have a bad cable. |
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| [06:10:25] | echosyp: | no, tv is hard to move |
| [06:10:29] | echosyp: | 42" |
| [06:10:57] | mchou: | echosyp: pvr x50's are very sensitive to signal quality and splitters certainly dont help |
| [06:10:57] | justdave: | just fixed that, and restarted the back end, and that didn't help |
| [06:11:07] | justdave: | backend status still shows the encoders at the old hostname and not connected |
| [06:11:48] | mchou: | justdave: this is simple, just hack the db |
| [06:12:01] | justdave: | obviously :) But what to hack in there? |
| [06:12:10] | mchou: | mysql -u root mythconverg |
| [06:12:16] | justdave: | yeah, I'm there already |
| [06:12:17] | J-e-f-f-A: | echosyp: The 1st thing I'd try is to replace the 3-way splitter you've got with a decent quality 2-way splitter. |
| [06:12:33] | justdave: | I already did update settings set hostname='newname' where hostname='oldname' |
| [06:12:36] | echosyp: | k |
| [06:12:48] | J-e-f-f-A: | echosyp: (should give you about 20% stronger signal) |
| [06:13:17] | J-e-f-f-A: | echosyp: How long is the cable to your room vs the cable to the TV in the living room? |
| [06:14:18] | echosyp: | 3' to tv like 60' to my room |
| [06:14:20] | echosyp: | heh |
| [06:14:21] | echosyp: | :( |
| [06:14:48] | echosyp: | i made the cables myself, tested them, so i know they work |
| [06:14:50] | J-e-f-f-A: | echosyp: That's another major factor. I'll bet it's not RG6 cable to your room either... |
| [06:14:57] | echosyp: | yes it is |
| [06:15:05] | J-e-f-f-A: | echosyp: Ok, well, that's a plus. |
| [06:15:36] | echosyp: | i just made an antenna out of a piece of copper |
| [06:15:38] | J-e-f-f-A: | echosyp: Well, you should see better performance with just a good 2-way splitter, and if that's not enough, you'll need an inline amp. |
| [06:15:40] | mchou: | justdave: the table you want to change is "capturecard" |
| [06:15:43] | echosyp: | and picked up like 20 more channels |
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| [06:15:49] | mchou: | justdave: simple to figure out |
| [06:15:55] | echosyp: | how much do those cost? |
| [06:15:57] | mchou: | echosyp: lol |
| [06:15:58] | justdave: | mchou: yep, that's it, I see 'em :) |
| [06:15:58] | code-rr: | any one here have audio sync problems with the FLV viewer? |
| [06:17:07] | justdave: | yay, it's all working now. :) |
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| [06:17:24] | justdave: | actually found that myself just a few seconds before you said it in here |
| [06:17:29] | justdave: | so many tables in that database :) |
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| [06:17:59] | justdave: | would be nice if mysql had something like "list all the tables that have a column named 'hostname'" :) |
| [06:18:04] | echosyp: | would the cable modem F with this at all? |
| [06:18:11] | echosyp: | F*** |
| [06:18:32] | J-e-f-f-A: | echosyp: Depends where you buy them from... from Radio Shack they're about $37 (ick) Number: 15–1170 |
| [06:18:55] | mchou: | echosyp: cable modem shouldnt screw thing up too badly |
| [06:19:06] | mchou: | splitters and bad cables do |
| [06:19:35] | J-e-f-f-A: | echosyp: Where's the cable modem in respect to the splitter and your computer... |
| [06:19:38] | mchou: | echosyp: both of which I suspect you have right now |
| [06:20:12] | justdave: | Just upgraded this box from Edgy to Gutsy |
| [06:20:17] | J-e-f-f-A: | justdave: Hummm... on the Tandem computers I work with, the sql catalog is itself a sql table. So I could just do a select on that... But not sure if the same is true for MySQL... |
| [06:20:29] | mchou: | the cable modem is generally "before" any splitters to give the modem the best signal |
| [06:20:30] | echosyp: | cable modem and tv are plugged into the splitter |
| [06:20:37] | justdave: | yeah, Oracle is like that, too. MySQL isn't. :) |
| [06:20:38] | echosyp: | wait |
| [06:20:52] | J-e-f-f-A: | mchou: he said he made the cable himself out of RG6, so I'm leaning towards the splitter... |
| [06:20:55] | echosyp: | i only remember seeing two things plugged into the 3-way |
| [06:21:10] | echosyp: | means there might be another splitter i didn't realize |
| [06:21:11] | echosyp: | brb |
| [06:21:16] | J-e-f-f-A: | echosyp: You said it was a 2-way splitter though... |
| [06:21:21] | echosyp: | 3-way |
| [06:21:27] | echosyp: | but i just had a realization |
| [06:21:32] | echosyp: | brb, gonna check on it |
| [06:21:32] | mchou: | J-e-f-f-A-2: unless echosyp is a cable tech I'd be weary of any cables he made himself |
| [06:21:40] | justdave: | very pleased to discover that Gutsy had out-of-the-box support for my video card, my capture card, and the remote-control sensor |
| [06:21:41] | echosyp: | i can make cables fine |
| [06:21:45] | J-e-f-f-A: | echosyp: er... Yeah – 3-way, with just 2 things plugged in. |
| [06:21:53] | justdave: | didn't have to go recompiling kernel modules like I used to have to do on kernel upgrades |
| [06:21:55] | echosyp: | let me double check |
| [06:23:25] | mchou: | echosyp: I wouldn't trust any cables you made. |
| [06:23:35] | J-e-f-f-A: | echosyp: Basically, What you want in that case is a high-quality 3-way splitter that's good up to 2GHz (for the cable modem and digital cable to work best), And off of that, go to your room, the tv, and the cable modem. |
| [06:23:43] | mchou: | especially if you got some cheap ass cable |
| [06:24:28] | J-e-f-f-A: | mchou: He did say it was RG6... Although I ran RG6-QS in my house... ;-) |
| [06:25:04] | mchou: | not all rg6 cables are created equal |
| [06:25:23] | mchou: | especially the rg6 from rat shack |
| [06:25:52] | J-e-f-f-A: | mchou: Yeah, I know what you mean. ... ;-) Mine wasn't from Rat Shack. ;-) |
| [06:26:08] | echosyp: | mchou, i don't get cheap shit, and i know my cables work |
| [06:26:31] | echosyp: | the cable guy connected the 3-way to the 2-way splitter |
| [06:26:36] | echosyp: | idk why |
| [06:26:40] | J-e-f-f-A: | mchou: I ran 5 RG6 from my attic where my Satellite switch is, to my basement where my myth system lives. It's about 65' per cable, and I get 92% signal strength... So not much loss there! |
| [06:26:43] | mchou: | echosyp: how would you know unless you had a network analyzer? |
| [06:26:44] | echosyp: | he prolly didn't see the 2-way splitter either |
| [06:26:59] | echosyp: | i have cable testers |
| [06:27:10] | mchou: | lol |
| [06:27:20] | echosyp: | i make coax cables all the time |
| [06:27:20] | mchou: | cable "testers" |
| [06:27:36] | J-e-f-f-A: | echosyp: So, did you disconnect the 2-way splitter and plug your cable directly into the 3rd port on the 3-way splitter? |
| [06:27:51] | echosyp: | not yet, i can't get the 2-way off |
| [06:27:56] | echosyp: | its tight as hell |
| [06:28:06] | J-e-f-f-A: | echosyp: Go find some pliars! |
| [06:28:12] | echosyp: | i don't have my tools on me, so when my roommate gets done jerking off i'll use his |
| [06:28:24] | J-e-f-f-A: | TMI! |
| [06:28:29] | mchou: | pliar??? |
| [06:28:30] | echosyp: | heh |
| [06:28:34] | mchou: | wtf! |
| [06:28:43] | J-e-f-f-A: | echosyp: And I said Pliars, not Tweezers! |
| [06:28:47] | mchou: | you dont use pliers on coax |
| [06:29:02] | J-e-f-f-A: | mchou: Well, you might to loosen F-connectors... ;-) |
| [06:29:13] | mchou: | you use a open ended wrench |
| [06:29:27] | echosyp: | you use whatever works |
| [06:29:29] | mchou: | right tools for the right job |
| [06:29:33] | J-e-f-f-A: | mchou: Yeah, that's preferred. |
| [06:31:08] | mchou: | sigh. KDE is teh suck |
| [06:31:32] | mchou: | so many frigging features left unfinished |
| [06:32:14] | mchou: | I though I was compiling incorrectly until I looked at the code |
| [06:32:20] | mchou: | lol |
| [06:32:42] | mchou: | all they had were placeholders for functions |
| [06:32:48] | mchou: | incredible |
| [06:36:27] | echosyp: | k, i disconnected the 2-way |
| [06:36:36] | echosyp: | cheap splitters |
| [06:36:40] | echosyp: | 5–1000mhz |
| [06:36:59] | J-e-f-f-A: | echosyp: So you should see many more channels now... Oh yeah, 1Ghz should be ok... |
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| [06:38:01] | echosyp_: | k, i disconnected the 2-way |
| [06:38:28] | echosyp_: | there is still 60' of cable between me and the splitter |
| [06:38:36] | mchou: | lol |
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| [06:38:54] | J-e-f-f-A: | echosyp_: Yeah, but you've eliminated alot of loss without the cascaded splitter... |
| [06:39:00] | echosyp: | yeah |
| [06:39:04] | echosyp: | still no more channels though |
| [06:39:24] | echosyp: | im wondering if my portable tv works, |
| [06:39:33] | echosyp: | it should pick up the channels no? |
| [06:39:39] | mchou: | dude, there is a very simple way t solve this problem |
| [06:39:45] | J-e-f-f-A: | echosyp: Humm... I would have expected to get a few more at least... |
| [06:40:00] | mchou: | go outside of you house where the cable comes in |
| [06:40:10] | mchou: | no splitters at ALL |
| [06:40:30] | echosyp: | i live in an apt, and those boxes are locked |
| [06:40:33] | mchou: | test it out with the usb pvr with a lappy |
| [06:41:04] | mchou: | lol |
| [06:41:07] | mchou: | an apt |
| [06:41:24] | mchou: | who knows how many splitters there are |
| [06:41:25] | echosyp: | if its a cable, i can replace it, im not passed admitting i may have made a bad cable |
| [06:41:30] | echosyp: | though, i find it unlikely |
| [06:41:39] | J-e-f-f-A: | echosyp: That's another issue... It's probably split 100x already... (yeah, like mchou said...) |
| [06:41:47] | echosyp: | no |
| [06:41:58] | echosyp: | the way the cables are run, it goes outside to the box |
| [06:42:00] | J-e-f-f-A: | echosyp: Do you have a multimeter? |
| [06:42:06] | echosyp: | i do, but at work |
| [06:42:27] | echosyp: | the cable guy even said i was getting an excellent signal |
| [06:42:34] | J-e-f-f-A: | ah. Well, you used a cable tester, right, so you know it's not a dead short. |
| [06:42:37] | mchou: | that's what they all say |
| [06:42:52] | echosyp: | yeah |
| [06:43:01] | echosyp: | i know the line coming into the apt is golden |
| [06:43:22] | echosyp: | the possibility that my cable is bad is higher |
| [06:43:28] | mchou: | echosyp: then if that's the case then you must have bad cables |
| [06:43:37] | J-e-f-f-A: | echosyp: I guess I'd google for your tuner and see if it's known for needing an amplifier... It may, since it's powered from USB an all... |
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| [06:43:50] | echosyp: | its not usb powered |
| [06:44:10] | J-e-f-f-A: | echosyp: So it's USB, but has it's own power supply too? |
| [06:44:16] | echosyp: | yea |
| [06:44:27] | echosyp: | 9v |
| [06:44:32] | tckyle: | is there anything available that will let you stream live TV using a mythtv install? i've heard of mythstreamtv which does only recorded tv. |
| [06:44:59] | J-e-f-f-A: | echosyp: Humm... Well, I'd check google anyways. It might be 'spotty' too depending on different components they're made from. |
| [06:45:17] | mchou: | tckyle: live tv is recorded TV |
| [06:45:31] | mchou: | as far as myth is concerned |
| [06:45:49] | echosyp: | well, myth should be concerned with picking up my channels! |
| [06:45:53] | J-e-f-f-A: | tckyle: Yeah, everything is recorded in Myth. Even LiveTV gets buffered to disk before it's decoded to your screen. |
| [06:45:55] | echosyp: | heh |
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| [06:46:02] | echosyp: | im gonna play around with it |
| [06:46:19] | tckyle: | mchou : maybe I wasn't clear enough. I want to be able to use my mythtv setup to stream a channel (ie. football game) over the internet to a place where cable TV is not available. |
| [06:46:51] | tckyle: | :\ |
| [06:47:13] | J-e-f-f-A: | echosyp: Try it in the living room with the 3' cable and see if you get everything. If you do, it's either a bad cable, or perhaps the cable length causes too much loss for the tuner to lock on – in which case you'd need an amp... |
| [06:47:57] | J-e-f-f-A: | tckyle: I've done that with baseball games for a friend using MythStreamTV. Simple really, just setup the program to record, and you can sream it 'live'... |
| [06:48:06] | tckyle: | Oh, Perfect. Thank you. |
| [06:48:29] | tckyle: | I guess i was misunderstanding what you guys were saying ;) |
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| [06:49:05] | J-e-f-f-A: | tckyle: Although I must admit I haven't had it setup for about 6 months now, since I moved to SVN — the new myth has Flash video streaming built-in if you have all the dependencies met... |
| [06:49:20] | mchou: | sigh..... |
| [06:49:30] | mchou: | flash is teh suck too |
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| [06:49:49] | tckyle: | which ver is that? 20.2? |
| [06:49:50] | mchou: | video in a DRM wrapper |
| [06:50:38] | J-e-f-f-A: | tckyle: Umm... I'm not sure if it's only in SVN, or if it's in 0.20.2 ... I've been running SVN for a while now. |
| [06:50:46] | tckyle: | Ok, thanks for the help |
| [06:52:17] | justdave: | heh, funny the topic comes up, I was just trying out MythBrowser and discovered it didn't use the Flash plugin |
| [06:52:38] | justdave: | the the trunk version does it now I take it :) |
| [06:52:42] | mchou: | justdave: be thankful for that |
| [06:52:42] | ** justdave is on 20.2 ** | |
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| [06:53:41] | justdave: | there's websites starting to stream tv shows on their sites... nice to watch them on the TV sometimes |
| [06:53:44] | J-e-f-f-A: | I actually prefer MythStreamTV myself... I think I'll hack up my mythweb pages to incorporate an 'instant' "Stream This Program" button... (The two or three pages of MythStreamTV's streaming config was a pain imho, although very flexible...) |
| [06:54:07] | justdave: | right now I quit out of MythFrontEnd and run Firefox to get to them |
| [06:54:21] | justdave: | (most of them will go fullscreen once you start them) |
| [06:55:09] | J-e-f-f-A: | justdave: Yeah, Fox was streaming 24 episodes. It was handy when my myth box crashed for no good reason, just before 24 started, and I didn't get to attempt to watch 24 until 40 mins later... When I discovered the issue. The sucky thing is that they didn't post the stream until the next day... |
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| [06:57:16] | ** justdave wonders if the MythDVD and MythGallery competing for disc insert events issue ever got resolved since the version I was running last... ** | |
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| [06:57:41] | justdave: | I'd put in a video DVD and MythGallery would open and browse the filesystem instead of it playing the DVD |
| [06:58:22] | justdave: | ended up uninstalling MythGallery to fix it |
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| [07:01:26] | echosyp: | yawn |
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| [08:42:17] | hachi: | blah, and my mythtv setup is chunky again |
| [08:45:49] | hachi: | when does 'mythcommflag' get called? |
| [08:46:08] | hachi: | can I run it on 'live tv' on accident? |
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| [09:41:23] | oobe: | hachi, no |
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| [10:10:46] | Patina: | How can two shows be conflicting when they are on the same channel and I have two tuners? |
| [10:11:18] | rooaus: | hard padding? |
| [10:12:51] | rooaus: | Do you mean they will record on different tuners or that myth is reporting a conflict and only one show will record? |
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| [10:16:57] | KjetilK: | I have discovered that I have two IR receivers in my box, one is supported by lirc_imon, the other is supported by lirc_pvr150 |
| [10:17:20] | KjetilK: | (the latter is a Hauppauge PVR-150) |
| [10:17:27] | Patina: | rooaus: Only one show will record. |
| [10:18:25] | KjetilK: | only the imon device was detected bu Mythbuntu and configured |
| [10:18:39] | rooaus: | Patina: I see what you mean then... :) |
| [10:19:01] | KjetilK: | I haven't got a remote for the imon, only for the pvr150 |
| [10:19:12] | Patina: | There seems to be an error in the program guide, one program is ending two minutes after the next one begins. |
| [10:20:03] | KjetilK: | and mode2 doesn't detect anything, so I figured I should get the pvr150 working in addition to the imon |
| [10:20:44] | KjetilK: | if I try to insert the lirc_pvr150 module, I get |
| [10:20:46] | KjetilK: | [184080.864195] kobject_add failed for i2c ir driver with -EEXIST, don't try to register things with the same name in the same directory. |
| [10:21:00] | KjetilK: | anyone know how to get around this? |
| [10:21:40] | rooaus: | Patina: Without looking into it further, I would "expect" myth to have moved the other recording onto the second tuner. Maybe it is a subtle bug that is prodded by the overlapping schedule data. |
| [10:22:14] | Patina: | rooaus: Also my guess. |
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| [10:25:00] | Solv: | I'm trying to update mythtv on gentoo from svn...i get the following error: emake || diefunc "$FUNCNAME" "$LINENO" "$?" "emake failed"; |
| [10:27:21] | hachi: | I have to wonder what mythcommflag is running for then... it took bloody forever for it to finish |
| [10:27:50] | rooaus: | Patina: Probably worth a ticket... schedule data is out of the users control. |
| [10:29:22] | Patina: | rooaus: A ticket, as in bug report? |
| [10:29:57] | rooaus: | yeah, http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/wiki/TicketHowTo |
| [10:34:17] | Solv: | anyone care to check this out please? building from svn on gentoo: http://rafb.net/p/XC8bBg20.html |
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| [10:39:22] | Dibblah: | Patina: It's not exactly a bug. |
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| [10:39:33] | Dibblah: | It's just the way the scheduler works. |
| [10:39:46] | rooaus: | Solv: Possibly bad opengl headers, I had that prob on gentoo after the mythtv-vid merge. |
| [10:40:08] | jgoo: | hey everyone. hrm. I am trying to install myth-tv on a new system, actually, I am installing ubuntu first – but I think this problem might be something other myth-users face |
| [10:40:14] | jgoo: | I am installing to a disk-less system |
| [10:40:34] | rooaus: | Solv: But I was building myself. |
| [10:40:37] | rooaus: | bbl |
| [10:40:41] | jgoo: | I have one (temporary) optical drive attached, and I want to install to an external usb drive, but I have faced a few issues, the latest of which is: |
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| [10:40:49] | Dibblah: | There's an option – http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Scheduli . . . r_Priorities |
| [10:40:58] | Dibblah: | which might help somewhat. |
| [10:41:08] | jgoo: | the usb drive gets... either unmounted or unmapped, I am not sure, after the installation tries to partition it |
| [10:42:22] | Solv: | rooaus, i'm just gonna use it as an excuse to try mythbuntu =) |
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| [11:05:04] | maelstrom: | I'm having a problem with channels ... i am pulling down lineups okay but my channels are all named "Adding Channel ##" ... any way to fix that besides fixing all the names manually ? |
| [11:12:46] | oobe: | i get tha with my anologue channels this is not a problem for me as there arnt many channels |
| [11:13:13] | oobe: | AFAIK manually is your best or only option |
| [11:13:35] | oobe: | unless there is some wiz bang sql person here who can suggest somthing else |
| [11:17:53] | justinh: | mythweb is great for renaming channels :) |
| [11:21:07] | justinh: | but will it blend? :D |
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| [11:23:14] | hvesalai: | hello. I have a strange problem with DVD sound tracks. After I upgraded my myth version (with Ubuntu), I get the wrong sound tracks. For example, on some DVDs if I choose finnish, I get sweedish and sweedish gives danish. The mix is not the same on all DVDs... i.e. Finnish on an other DVD can give me Danish, etc |
| [11:23:36] | hvesalai: | All was working correctly before the new version |
| [11:23:47] | hvesalai: | Any ideas? |
| [11:25:27] | justinh: | I wouldn't have expected it to get worse with a newer version but hey ho |
| [11:26:14] | justinh: | well, so far WAF on the new frontend is ++++++ |
| [11:27:04] | justinh: | she's even noticed how much better the picture looks. no more noise on highly saturated colours |
| [11:28:13] | hvesalai: | hmm... I'd take the noisy colors any day for working audio track selection |
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| [11:28:51] | justinh: | are your language preference settings the same? |
| [11:29:13] | hvesalai: | yes... |
| [11:29:27] | justinh: | good for mythtv to help you learn another language :P |
| [11:29:36] | justinh: | even if it is random ;) |
| [11:29:37] | TRIUMF: | :)) |
| [11:29:38] | hvesalai: | and I'm not talking about the default selection. If I open the menu and choose a sound track called "Finnish" it gives something else |
| [11:29:41] | TRIUMF: | hello |
| [11:30:28] | hvesalai: | and so when there's more than one audio track I have to try out them all to find the one I want |
| [11:30:40] | TRIUMF: | i'm the new one with linux (using debian). Tried to install mythtv and i get this error |
| [11:30:42] | TRIUMF: | mythtv-status |
| [11:30:42] | TRIUMF: | Sorry, failed to fetch http://localhost:6544/xml. |
| [11:30:44] | hvesalai: | it seems the names of the audio tracks are not correct |
| [11:30:53] | justinh: | hvesalai: no idea what's wrong then. mythtv uses dvd playback libraries from outside so if they're wrong mythtv will be wrong too. do other software DVD players get it wrong as well? |
| [11:31:13] | hvesalai: | let me see |
| [11:32:10] | hvesalai: | let me try xine first |
| [11:32:12] | justinh: | hvesalai: AFAIK that's a common problem on linux anyway, partly due to DVD authors doing it wrong deliberately if I remember correctly (i.e. leaving the audio track selection to a menu interface on the disc) |
| [11:32:54] | hvesalai: | but it also is broken when I choose from the DVD menu |
| [11:33:02] | hvesalai: | and as I said, it all worked correctly before |
| [11:34:16] | hvesalai: | Totem get's it correctly |
| [11:35:44] | TRIUMF: | someone know is my problem connected with database or sth? |
| [11:37:05] | hvesalai: | xine works correctly |
| [11:38:25] | hvesalai: | and even mplayer works |
| [11:38:32] | hvesalai: | so the bug is only in myth |
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| [11:45:45] | Solv: | TRIUMF, if you are brand new to linux and want to use mythtv, I sugegst you try mythbuntu which is debian based, so you can use it like a debian system..but it will do all the hard work for you |
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| [11:52:48] | Dibblah: | justinh: When I switched frontends, it wasn't even noticed :( |
| [11:52:57] | Dibblah: | However, VGA out and all that. |
| [11:53:18] | Dibblah: | BTW, on the issue of heatsink space... |
| [11:53:26] | Dibblah: | What's the DVD drive in that box? |
| [11:53:44] | Dibblah: | Is it possible to replace it with a laptop form-factor DVD drive? |
| [11:54:05] | Dibblah: | They're getting reasonably cheap now, even for writers... |
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| [12:42:52] | justinh: | Dibblah: already is slimline. it's a matter of clearance between the board & the drive mounting plate |
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| [12:56:45] | hvesalai: | hmm... reading the code I'd say that my bug has been fixed (or at least worked on) in the trunk |
| [12:57:43] | hvesalai: | so next I guess I have to remove the mythtv that came with ubuntu and compile my own? |
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| [12:58:05] | hvesalai: | Sounds like something I'd rather not do |
| [12:59:47] | KjetilK: | I have found that my system has a lirc_pvr150 module, but I don't see that mentioned anywhere with the Hauppauge PVR-150, which I thought it was for, is it obsolete or something? |
| [13:06:47] | hvesalai: | what do you think? Which parts should I backup before trying to upgrade from a version of mythtv that came with ubuntu to a manually build version? |
| [13:09:20] | rooaus: | hvesalai: The DB is the most important, you might also copy the init.d scripts for mythbackend. |
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| [13:21:10] | hvesalai: | do I need to upgrade both mythfrontend and backend? My backend is the latest stable release |
| [13:21:35] | justinh: | KjetilK: that module is for lirc, linux infrared remote control. if you need the pvr150 remote to work you need that module |
| [13:22:07] | justinh: | all versions of mythtv parts should be the same version number, right down to the very last digit |
| [13:22:32] | justinh: | oh man. is it too early for vodka? |
| [13:23:01] | justinh: | my cunning plan to have so many shots then alternate soft drinks kinda failed last night |
| [13:23:19] | justinh: | on the plus side I only heard one christmas song :) |
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| [13:27:59] | KjetilK: | justinh: oh, right, that is for IR Blasting, right? |
| [13:28:12] | KjetilK: | so I shouldn't need it for just IR receiving? |
| [13:28:22] | justinh: | you will need it for receiving |
| [13:28:32] | KjetilK: | oh, ok |
| [13:29:02] | KjetilK: | I have two receivers in my box, which is an Antec Fusion v2 |
| [13:29:38] | KjetilK: | so, I have lirc_imon kinda working |
| [13:30:12] | KjetilK: | well, it is running, but mode2 doesn't report anything with any of the remotes I have in the house... :-( |
| [13:31:34] | KjetilK: | Since the imon didn't come with a remote, but the PVR-150 did, I figured I should be setting up both the devices, but so far, with little luch |
| [13:31:39] | KjetilK: | s/luch/luck/ |
| [13:36:36] | KjetilK: | I've been following this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_Lir . . . 78f0382038c9 |
| [13:37:03] | KjetilK: | to try to set up that second device, but just get lircd/etc/init.d/lirc: 147: -d: not found |
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| [13:40:20] | KjetilK: | The card seems to be detected ok: [ 31.766586] tveeprom 0–0050: has no radio, has IR receiver, has IR transmitter |
| [13:40:56] | KjetilK: | but when I modprobe lirc_pvr150, I get [ 1088.505011] lirc_pvr150: ivtv i2c driver #0: no devices found |
| [13:41:13] | ** KjetilK doesn't even know where to look... ** | |
| [13:54:26] | justinh: | KjetilK: if you're not gonna be using the pvr150 ir blaster or receiver dont worry about the pvr150 lirc module ;) |
| [14:04:29] | KjetilK: | justinh: yeah, it would be kinda nice to skip it, but since I didn't get any output from mode2 with the lirc_imon device, I figured I might need it... |
| [14:05:42] | KjetilK: | I've got the VFD, which is also driven by lirc_imon, I think, working |
| [14:06:39] | justinh: | check dmesg to see which device node the lirc module is associated with. sometimes automagical things don't work ;) |
| [14:07:06] | KjetilK: | yup |
| [14:07:09] | justinh: | usual suspect is /dev/lirc rather than /dev/lirc0 or vice-versa. or even /dev/lirc/0 |
| [14:07:30] | justinh: | I hate lirc |
| [14:07:36] | KjetilK: | hehe |
| [14:07:43] | KjetilK: | yeah, gotta live with it, though... :-) |
| [14:07:57] | justinh: | they seem to break irrecord quite often – i.e. every blimmin time I install it |
| [14:08:08] | KjetilK: | :-( |
| [14:08:14] | justinh: | got one remote it just won't learn at all |
| [14:08:27] | KjetilK: | [ 30.629950] /build/buildd/linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22–2.6.22/debian/build/build-generi c/media/lirc/lirc_imon/lirc_imon.c: imon_probe: Registered iMON plugin (minor:0) |
| [14:08:41] | KjetilK: | that minor:0 would indicate /dev/lirc0, right? |
| [14:08:52] | justinh: | I don't know |
| [14:08:57] | KjetilK: | ok |
| [14:09:03] | justinh: | ls /dev/ |grep lirc |
| [14:09:46] | KjetilK: | I have lirc0, lircd and lircd1 |
| [14:09:46] | justinh: | it might even have made the ir receiver an input device (i.e. not lirc). if it's not a homebrew serial port receiver I have no experience ;) |
| [14:10:17] | KjetilK: | I read somewhere that it would live under /dev/lirc/0 on devfs |
| [14:10:27] | KjetilK: | so I made sure I wasn't using devfs |
| [14:10:44] | justinh: | it can live wherever you want it to if you configure everything properly |
| [14:11:12] | Jiten: | does anyone else have Antec Fusion v2 (silver) and a problem that pressing buttons on the remote eventually crashes the VFD and fills it with garbage, even if the system is shutdown? |
| [14:11:50] | KjetilK: | Jiten: I've just gotten a Antec Fusion v2, but I don't have the remote working :-) |
| [14:11:57] | justinh: | maybe try a newer version of lirc Jiten |
| [14:12:13] | Jiten: | I've got 2 remotes that do this. One that came with hauppauge Nova-T 500 and and another with TT-budget C-1500 |
| [14:12:21] | justinh: | that generally means build it yourself |
| [14:12:57] | Jiten: | justinh: I'm running a version of lirc from yesterday. |
| [14:13:14] | justinh: | ah |
| [14:13:22] | justinh: | then maybe try a 'stable' version |
| [14:13:26] | Jiten: | well, actually just the kernel module but ... :) |
| [14:13:32] | Jiten: | the one that came with ubuntu has the same problem |
| [14:13:48] | justinh: | check the lirc mailing list then |
| [14:13:52] | KjetilK: | uh-oh |
| [14:14:33] | Jiten: | it also doesn't work at all with the remote :) Anyway, I'll see if I can find anything on that from the mailing lists |
| [14:14:50] | justinh: | is mythtv really usable with a few lines of text on a VFD? I've often wondered what the point of a VFD is. If I want to find out where in the show I am I just press info :) still tempted though |
| [14:15:04] | sebrock: | what correlation does lirc and lcdproc have? |
| [14:15:29] | sebrock: | I found patches for the IMON LCD and it suggests that both the lirc and lcdproc should be patched? |
| [14:15:44] | justinh: | lcdproc is the daemon for putting stuff on the display isn't it? |
| [14:15:44] | Jiten: | the lirc_imon kernel module is the only module I found that allows for the use of the screen |
| [14:16:05] | Jiten: | the screen works, as long as I don't point the remote at it. |
| [14:16:26] | ** justinh whacks yet another "give your website a real talking character" email. bah! ** | |
| [14:17:08] | KjetilK: | Jiten: you haven't gotten any remote to work with the imon IR Receiver? |
| [14:17:08] | sebrock: | yes, but why should both be ptached? |
| [14:17:25] | Jiten: | justinh: spamassassin handles those nicely. Especially if you activate the remote tests. |
| [14:17:32] | justinh: | sebrock: because somebody found bugs in both? ;) |
| [14:17:33] | sebrock: | as in this: http://codeka.com/blogs/index.php?cat=30 |
| [14:17:54] | Jiten: | KjetilK: any attempt to irrecord from it currently just "finishes" even if I don't push any buttons. |
| [14:17:55] | sebrock: | reading the text and looking into the patch seems it has something to do with each other |
| [14:18:12] | KjetilK: | Jiten: ok, and nothing on mode2 either...? |
| [14:18:20] | justinh: | sebrock: lcdproc presumably needs to talk to the driver |
| [14:18:26] | Jiten: | oh, didn't try mode2, I'll need to try that. |
| [14:18:54] | KjetilK: | Jiten: I've been struggling to get a remote working with the imon for several days now |
| [14:19:26] | justinh: | lcdproc comes with some drivers built in AFAIK – for parallel port driven displays etc. must need an external driver to talk to usb displays & the like# |
| [14:19:30] | KjetilK: | Jiten: nothing works here either, but the lcdproc has so far worked ok |
| [14:20:22] | Jiten: | KjetilK: sounds similar. What remotes have you tried? |
| [14:21:28] | KjetilK: | Jiten: the one that came with a Hauppauge Pvr 150, one that belongs to the TV, one that belongs to an old stereo |
| [14:22:07] | KjetilK: | no remote was delivered with my Antec Fusion, was it one with yours? |
| [14:22:18] | Jiten: | no, I don't think it's supposed to come with one. |
| [14:22:22] | KjetilK: | right |
| [14:22:34] | Jiten: | the documentation does mention that it should support MCE-remotes |
| [14:22:43] | KjetilK: | oh, I didn't see that |
| [14:22:55] | Jiten: | no idea if my remotes use that protocol |
| [14:23:16] | KjetilK: | I was thinking perhaps it wasn't an IR receiver at all, just an interface for the volume knob... |
| [14:24:25] | KjetilK: | I have ir reciever for the PVR-150, but I can't get my new ubuntu box to detect it... |
| [14:24:52] | rooaus: | KjetilK: I built a Fusion case for something at work, I believe the remote that came with it was a mce based remote. I don't think it works with other remotes. |
| [14:25:08] | KjetilK: | rooaus: interesting |
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| [14:25:28] | KjetilK: | so, I should probably try to finish what I started, get the pvr150 to work... |
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| [14:27:10] | KjetilK: | some docs mention some udev stuff: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Volume_Knob_on_Antec_Fusion |
| [14:27:48] | KjetilK: | but I haven't figured out how to get that idVendor attribute for the pvr150, while it is trivial to get for the imon |
| [14:28:07] | KjetilK: | Anybody know how to find that? |
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| [14:30:40] | sebrock: | justinh: yeah, I just dont understand why? Its two different things is it not? |
| [14:30:49] | rooaus: | KjetilK: Actually looking at the Fusion specs again (to refresh mem) I think it is the VFD only and Volume knob. I think I got it confused with another IMon vfd/ir receiver I have worked with. |
| [14:31:19] | KjetilK: | rooaus: right, that would explain a few things for Jiten and me |
| [14:31:23] | Jiten: | rooaus: there are two versions of the Fusion. v2 has IR, v1 doesn't |
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| [14:31:29] | KjetilK: | thanks for clearing that up |
| [14:31:54] | sebrock: | KjetilK: do you use and externan reciever? |
| [14:33:32] | Jiten: | KjetilK: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php? . . . me=lirc-list |
| [14:33:38] | KjetilK: | sebrock: my pvr150 has a cable which contains a reciever, yes |
| [14:34:11] | sebrock: | which distro are you running? |
| [14:34:21] | sebrock: | so its the MS media remote? |
| [14:35:54] | KjetilK: | Jiten: ah, ok. I'll try the pad version of the config |
| [14:36:30] | KjetilK: | sebrock: hmmm, I don't know, actually, the PVR-150 seems to have been delivered with several different remotes over the years |
| [14:37:23] | justinh: | sebrock: it's a combination of 2 different things :) a lot like how X doesn't always have video card drivers built in I suppose |
| [14:39:27] | KjetilK: | BTW, anybody have experience with the Muthbuntu way of doing thing, I have a /etc/lirc/hardware.conf, where there is a line LIRCD_CONF="imon/lircd.conf.imon" |
| [14:39:45] | KjetilK: | but that file resides in /usr/share/lirc/remotes IIRC |
| [14:40:02] | KjetilK: | I wouldn't need to symlink the directory from /etc/lirc? |
| [14:41:31] | justinh: | I wouldn't do that |
| [14:41:55] | justinh: | I think the general idea is to copy config files from there into /etc/wherever |
| [14:41:57] | Jiten: | KjetilK: I think it loads it from where it is |
| [14:44:15] | KjetilK: | Jiten, justinh: ok |
| [14:44:30] | KjetilK: | well, didn't get anything with mode2 with -pad either |
| [14:45:03] | Jiten: | I don't think mode2 or irrecord care about the config |
| [14:45:23] | Jiten: | as they're tools for creating the config |
| [14:45:32] | sebrock: | I have one of them aswell, dont use it right now but I plan to. I got one of these bundled with my PVR-500 (which is 2x 150) |
| [14:45:34] | sebrock: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Image:Mce-hauppauge.jpg |
| [14:45:50] | KjetilK: | the funny thing, neither the User's Manual nor the feature list on the box of the case mentions a word about a IR reciever |
| [14:46:06] | sebrock: | and it workes out of the box with lirc_mceusb2 module |
| [14:46:43] | KjetilK: | sebrock: ah, interesting, that's not the one I have |
| [14:46:51] | Jiten: | KjetilK: does lsusb list something like: Bus 006 Device 002: ID 15c2:ffdc SoundGraph Inc. iMON PAD Remote Controller |
| [14:47:23] | Jiten: | if that ID is the same, your model should be the same as mine |
| [14:47:42] | KjetilK: | Jiten: yup, that's exactly what I have |
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| [14:48:07] | Jiten: | then it should have IR receiver |
| [14:48:18] | KjetilK: | sebrock: on http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/PVR150_Remote, it says "The pvr150 has been sold with 2 different types of remotes one grey and one silver so your lircd.conf will depend on which you have." |
| [14:48:48] | KjetilK: | sebrock: mine is greyer than the one you have, so that means I have the grey one |
| [14:48:58] | sebrock: | KjetilK: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/MCE_Remote |
| [14:49:03] | sebrock: | which one of them? |
| [14:49:40] | KjetilK: | sebrock: none of those |
| [14:50:07] | KjetilK: | I would suspect that then, I need the lirc_pvr150 module...? |
| [14:51:03] | KjetilK: | Jiten: yeah, I guess so... |
| [14:51:28] | justinh: | heh just seen the -dev list – there's a patch to move antennas now. |
| [14:51:35] | KjetilK: | sebrock: mine has a "Hauppauge" label, no "windows" label |
| [14:52:03] | Jiten: | I guess my remotes aren't MCE remotes. there was MCE RC6 marked as protocol somewhere and I think these had RC5. |
| [14:53:02] | sebrock: | KjetilK: ok, that would not matter I think, Its the same hardware. That little patch is customizable. |
| [14:53:15] | sebrock: | You should try lirc_mceusb2 anyway |
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| [14:54:08] | KjetilK: | Jiten: but with the message you linked to, it seems like we might as well give up on the imon receiver anyway, as it appeared to be a bad one... |
| [14:54:26] | thomas: | hi folks anybody knows what LMS in the LIve dvb watch means (what do that letters stand for ?) |
| [14:54:27] | KjetilK: | Jiten: do you have any other receivers in your system? |
| [14:54:49] | Jiten: | KjetilK: yes, I'm currently using the one in TT-budget C-1500 |
| [14:54:51] | directhex: | thomas, each letter means something different. the first one is Lock, i forget the rest |
| [14:54:58] | justinh: | thomas: Lock pMt and Sit IIRC |
| [14:55:01] | Jiten: | with the remote that came with the card |
| [14:55:21] | KjetilK: | Jiten: have you gotten both those devices configured side by side? |
| [14:55:34] | Jiten: | you mean running lirc for both at once? |
| [14:55:35] | KjetilK: | as in, two different /dev/lirc? |
| [14:55:41] | ** KjetilK nods ** | |
| [14:55:54] | Jiten: | the one integrated in the card doesn't create a lirc-device |
| [14:55:57] | justinh: | Lock means the tuner has a lock at the freq. it's tuned to. M means it's got the PMT for the transponder (a table containing info for the channels) and S means it's got the SIT (service information table) IIRC |
| [14:56:00] | Jiten: | it's handled by linux input layer |
| [14:56:15] | KjetilK: | Jiten: oh, really |
| [14:56:24] | ** KjetilK wonders if he has that too... ** | |
| [14:56:43] | Jiten: | however, I ended up running lirc on the input device since that seemed like the easiest way to get all keys working |
| [14:57:14] | KjetilK: | right |
| [14:57:28] | Jiten: | anyway, I haven't looked at how to configure lirc for two devices at once |
| [14:57:39] | Jiten: | That'd be necessary to get the volume-button to work though. |
| [14:57:43] | thomas: | justinh: thnx alot i got an LMs do you accidently if the s comes over the air or is it somehow stored in the db (dtv_multiplex) |
| [14:57:57] | KjetilK: | Jiten: I've been looking into that, but haven't gotten it working |
| [14:58:02] | justinh: | all the info tables come over the air |
| [14:58:10] | justinh: | they're part of the stream |
| [14:58:13] | Jiten: | KjetilK: you need to use the dev/input driver for lirc |
| [14:58:42] | KjetilK: | Jiten: a combination of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_Lir . . . 78f0382038c9 and http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Volume_Knob_on_Antec_Fusion might do it, I would guess |
| [14:58:47] | Jiten: | anyway, take a look at /dev/input and try each eventX device there with evtest |
| [14:59:12] | KjetilK: | Jiten: ah, OK, I was just about to do cat /dev/input/* |
| [14:59:14] | KjetilK: | :-) |
| [15:00:01] | Jiten: | that works too |
| [15:00:07] | Jiten: | evtest just looks nicer |
| [15:00:30] | KjetilK: | is that in the dvb-utils package? |
| [15:00:55] | Jiten: | yes |
| [15:02:21] | KjetilK: | hmmm, none of them seemed meaningful, only power buttons and mouse... |
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| [15:03:15] | Jiten: | ok, then your device is not there |
| [15:03:31] | Jiten: | you do have the kernel module loaded, right? |
| [15:03:40] | Jiten: | for the device that is |
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| [15:05:26] | KjetilK: | Jiten: well,l yeah, the problem is that I'm not sure about that... |
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| [15:07:53] | KjetilK: | Jiten: I see stuff like [ 31.766586] tveeprom 0–0050: has no radio, has IR receiver, has IR transmitter |
| [15:08:01] | thomas: | justinh: ok thats explaining alot, if i got LMs then my db setup is correct just the SIT provided by my provider is bogus then ? |
| [15:08:17] | KjetilK: | so, apparently, the kernel knows something about it... |
| [15:08:41] | KjetilK: | also, [ 31.766590] ivtv0: reopen i2c bus for IR-blaster support |
| [15:09:01] | Jiten: | KjetilK: you did you load firmware for it? |
| [15:09:31] | KjetilK: | Jiten: yup, I think so, but that is only relevant for the blaster support, isn't it? |
| [15:10:11] | Jiten: | no idea about that :) |
| [15:10:16] | KjetilK: | :-) |
| [15:10:45] | KjetilK: | If I can just get the receiver working, I can live with two (err, three) remotes for a while... |
| [15:11:40] | KjetilK: | When I did a modprobe lirc_pvr150, I get [ 1088.505011] lirc_pvr150: ivtv i2c driver #0: no devices found |
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| [15:15:09] | KjetilK: | sebrock: just tried lirc_mceusb2 too, but nothing happened... |
| [15:17:55] | sebrock: | sorry to hear that |
| [15:18:07] | sebrock: | is the USB even detected? |
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| [15:18:36] | KjetilK: | nope, but I don't think it is USB, since it is not connected to my USB bus... |
| [15:18:43] | sebrock: | ah right |
| [15:18:46] | sebrock: | its not? |
| [15:18:50] | KjetilK: | nope... |
| [15:19:02] | sebrock: | did not know they shipped non-usb stuff nowadays |
| [15:19:06] | KjetilK: | I think we probably have somewhat different cards... |
| [15:19:14] | sebrock: | you had a pvr-150? |
| [15:19:17] | KjetilK: | yeah... |
| [15:19:20] | ** KjetilK nods :-) ** | |
| [15:19:28] | sebrock: | mine pvr-500 is basically 2 of them in one card |
| [15:19:36] | sebrock: | anyway... |
| [15:19:45] | sebrock: | how is the thing connected then? |
| [15:19:58] | KjetilK: | it is just on the PCI bus, nothing more |
| [15:20:20] | sebrock: | hm... wait |
| [15:20:21] | KjetilK: | my imon device is USB, it is connected with a wire to the USB bus |
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| [15:20:37] | sebrock: | I'm talking about the IR reciever? you want to TV card to work? |
| [15:20:44] | sebrock: | sorry for not understanding this before |
| [15:21:07] | KjetilK: | oh, I'm working to get the IR receiver first... |
| [15:21:13] | sebrock: | right |
| [15:21:16] | KjetilK: | you have USB card? |
| [15:21:40] | sebrock: | the card should actually be suppored natively by kernel so that should be up and running once you pop it in |
| [15:22:03] | sebrock: | I got a PCI card but the IR reciever is USB connected |
| [15:23:52] | KjetilK: | Right |
| [15:23:59] | KjetilK: | is that the PVR-150MCE? |
| [15:24:57] | KjetilK: | I guess I should look inside to see if there are any connectors I've missed |
| [15:25:28] | sebrock: | Yeah do that |
| [15:25:52] | sebrock: | thats why you should lsusb and dmesg to see if its even recognized on you system |
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| [15:47:29] | black_Nightmare_: | hey |
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| [16:31:22] | thomas: | justinh: what is LAM in contrary to LMS ? |
| [16:33:13] | thomas: | anybody knows whats the difference between LAM and LMS in dvb livetv ? |
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| [16:51:20] | sebrock: | if all sound is output via SPDIF, then mute and volume wont work within MythTV . Instead I have to use the remote to the sound system. Is that normal? |
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| [16:51:42] | directhex: | sebrock, volume, yes. mute, dunno |
| [16:53:07] | ramza3_: | newb question; I should be able to setup mythtv for watching youtube video without too much hassle? Eg, would the mythbrowser work? |
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| [16:56:38] | sebrock: | if I could only manage to add an enitre album in mythmusic without having to look it up manually |
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| [17:05:29] | Mr_Grieves: | Has anyone managed to get the mythweb remote control in trunk working? Everytime I try to select my frontend it tells me that the frontend is not responding. |
| [17:06:51] | sebrock: | whenever lirc interprets a IR signal on my rig there is a lag in mythtv... this is very notable on audio... anyone have a clue what this is? |
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| [17:16:45] | reco1l: | hello room, does any1 in here use mythtv on a xbox, Im having a prob installing it |
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| [17:22:30] | tank-man: | reco1l, i use the python scripts with xbmc. xbmc boots faster than linux and i like that better |
| [17:23:28] | adante: | ironically i want to do the (sort of) reverse, xbmc on linux.. |
| [17:23:57] | ramza3_: | stupid question; I wouldn't need both a nvidia tv out card and a tv tuner card like a Hauppauge WinTV TV tuner card; if I just want to output online data to my tv? |
| [17:24:36] | reco1l: | i was just messing around with linux really, came accorss it and just wanted to try it out |
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| [17:26:09] | reco1l: | when i boot my xbox with Xebian, I can putty into it, the instructions say to login as root, and the password 'xbox' now i know this is proberly a stupid thing to ask but does that mean the username is 'root'? |
| [17:26:52] | tank-man: | yes |
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| [17:27:03] | tank-man: | add a user after loging in |
| [17:27:58] | reco1l: | problem is i have typed in 'root' then when asked for password i type'xbox' but i get access denied |
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| [17:28:30] | tank-man: | maybe the password is xebian |
| [17:28:57] | reco1l: | lol just tryed that it was |
| [17:28:58] | reco1l: | thx |
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| [17:32:37] | squish102: | any1 have a dlink dsm-320 media extender? i want to know what formats are supported with mythtv |
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| [17:32:53] | Andycasss: | Hmm, where does mythvideo get its mplayer input configuration?? |
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| [17:33:50] | Mr_Grieves: | Does any documentation exist for the remote module for mythweb? I'm obviously missing something, but I can't find any info on it. |
| [17:34:03] | Andycasss: | When i launch this in terminal: mplayer -joystick *dir/file* my joystick works as it should. When i try it with mplayer, only some buttons work. I have used the -joystick argument in player settings in mythvideo settings |
| [17:34:35] | GreyFoxx: | Mr_Grieves: You have to enable the telnet network controls in the frontend before you can use it from mythweb |
| [17:34:39] | GreyFoxx: | IT's a per frontend setting |
| [17:34:59] | Mr_Grieves: | GreyFoxx: Thanks :) I'll do that. |
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| [17:36:53] | Andycasss: | GreyFoxx: Do you know where mythvideo gets its mplayer input conf? |
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| [17:39:38] | GreyFoxx: | mythvideo has nothing to do with mplayers input config |
| [17:39:47] | GreyFoxx: | Mythvideo just calls mplayer using the commandline you specify |
| [17:39:54] | GreyFoxx: | mplayer loads it's own config |
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| [17:40:10] | GreyFoxx: | normally in .mplayer/ of the user launching it |
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| [17:48:11] | hadees: | So something happened to my database and I guess the settings table had some problems but I was able to fix it i think although now mythbackend "If you are sure this is a good mythtv database, verify that the settings table has the DBSchemaVer variable." |
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| [17:50:19] | Andycasss: | GreyFoxx: Can i specify the input.conf for mplayer? |
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| [17:50:44] | Andycasss: | GreyFoxx: Since there is no input.conf in my home dir, but there is one in /etc/mplayer/ |
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| [17:51:15] | Andycasss: | The weird thing is, when i launch it via terminal, the inputs are perfecto |
| [17:51:18] | tank-man: | try copying it to your home dir |
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| [18:00:54] | hadees: | okay so it seems my Settings table was totally borked. I was able to fix it by rerunning mysql but now it still doesn't find the DBSchemaVer variable, I checked it isn't there and mythbackend things my current version is blank. So I know for a fact i didn't upgrade but inorder to fix this problem I need to know how mythbackend formats for the DBSchemaVar and what are other variables it might create along with it. |
| [18:01:34] | hadees: | doh instead of rerunning mysql i meant rerunning mythtv-setup |
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| [18:24:33] | DustyBin: | Arsenal 1–0 Chelsea :D :D :D |
| [18:30:30] | hadees: | Ok so the whole thing also messed up the recordings so i already got rid of the files but now i want to remove the recordings from the database but i want to do it as if i was deleting them from the mythtv frontend, thus preserving the fact i already saw those episodes |
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| [18:52:47] | thomas: | bye folks thanks justinh for your help |
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| [19:08:44] | echoSMILE: | svideo on my tv |
| [19:08:47] | echoSMILE: | sucks :( |
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| [19:48:45] | greenail_: | hola |
| [19:48:55] | dserban_: | Hello, I was following the debian install howto, and I'm on a tv, therefore it's hard to read stuff ;). I used fluxbox as the window manager, but I can't seem to find how to start any programs under fluxbox ... meh how do I run a program under fluxbox? |
| [19:49:08] | dserban_: | uhh that was meant for #fluxbox.. sry\ |
| [19:49:28] | greenail_: | anyone build mythtv on a ps3? |
| [19:49:37] | greenail_: | i'm having some odd linking errors |
| [19:50:24] | greenail_: | 7 of them related to ffmpeg |
| [19:50:40] | greenail_: | when it trys to build mythtv in the programs dir |
| [19:50:49] | greenail_: | this is mythtv-vid though... |
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| [20:00:42] | greenail_: | i'm following these instructions |
| [20:00:45] | greenail_: | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/275682 |
| [20:01:07] | greenail_: | --no-undefined as a LFLAG will help? |
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| [20:03:52] | dserban_: | anyone know how I use a larger set of fonts in debian? I've added the -dpi 75 option to the server start string in gdm.conf but it still seems to use small and unreadable fonts... any suggestions? |
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| [20:44:55] | gejr_: | this is kinda lirc-related, but i guess somebody here could be able to help me. Any good ideas how to make my remote type? i was thinking something like the typical cellphone approach with each number button capable of 3–4 characters |
| [20:45:39] | gejr_: | i've tried having 3 config-entries for a button, like Button = One ; config = Key a CurrentWindow; config = Key b CurrentWindow; |
| [20:45:50] | justinh: | gejr_: you can't do that with a simple lirc config AFAIK |
| [20:45:50] | gejr_: | but this just makes me able to type abcabcabc ;) |
| [20:46:38] | gejr_: | justinh: care to point me somewhere explaining how? I don't know what tool to use. I'm currently using irxevent and plain lircrc to control my ncmpc |
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| [20:46:49] | gejr_: | oh...sorry. i misread |
| [20:46:57] | gejr_: | i thought you said "you can" ;-) |
| [20:47:02] | gejr_: | heard what i wanted to i guess |
| [20:47:13] | justinh: | some parts of myth allow you to enter text that way |
| [20:48:23] | gejr_: | aye..but not ncmpc ;> |
| [20:49:59] | justinh: | sounds like ncmpc needs a patch |
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| [21:14:11] | KjetilK: | sebrock: if you're still here, I found that there is a difference between our cards, you have PVR-150MCE, I have the PVR-150, which is not the same |
| [21:14:27] | KjetilK: | mine doesn't have a USB connector |
| [21:14:35] | KjetilK: | so, I'm still stuck... :-( |
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| [21:37:02] | Led-Hed: | I'm gonna be upgrading the CPU in may backend. Main reason is Commercial Flagging hammers my P4 506 (2.66 No HT). I'l looking at a Pentium E2200 which is on par with a E6300. My question is: Is Commercial Flagging going to significantly benefit from increased L2 Cache? |
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| [21:48:05] | clever: | Led-Hed: i just tweaked a option and ran a mythbackend on all my frontends |
| [21:48:17] | clever: | Led-Hed: now i have 2–3 boxes flaging in paralel |
| [21:48:56] | Led-Hed: | clever, My frontends are too low powered to Comm Flagg |
| [21:49:07] | clever: | they can allways flag |
| [21:49:09] | clever: | even with 50mhz |
| [21:49:13] | clever: | it would just take longer |
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| [21:49:30] | Led-Hed: | EPIA 1ghz & Barton's Underclocked to 1.2ghz |
| [21:49:37] | clever: | but put all of them to work together and you may still get it done adt a noticable rate |
| [21:49:58] | clever: | my 2 main flaging boxes are 1ghz and 400mhz |
| [21:50:00] | Led-Hed: | clever, but if the frontends flag then they will kill playback |
| [21:50:17] | clever: | the flag is reniced to a low prio so it wont get in the way of playback |
| [21:50:55] | Led-Hed: | clever, still cant do it on the frontends now that I think of it. They netboot and cant run the backend |
| [21:51:14] | clever: | dont see why you cant run mythbackend also |
| [21:51:15] | Led-Hed: | all my frontends use Mini-Myth |
| [21:51:32] | Led-Hed: | mini-myth doesnt have backend |
| [21:51:33] | clever: | aslong as the binary is available to them |
| [21:51:44] | Led-Hed: | I could do that I suppose. |
| [21:52:03] | clever: | under mythtv-setup i beleive you can set jobs to run on any host instead of the one that recorded |
| [21:52:15] | clever: | then any box with mythbackend will accept free jobs |
| [21:52:51] | Led-Hed: | clever, Comm flagging hammers my backend, I cant imaging what it would do to the low powered frontends |
| [21:53:08] | clever: | only reason flaging harms my backend |
| [21:53:20] | clever: | is because i have a frame grabber that needs 50–90% of my cpu power |
| [21:53:33] | Led-Hed: | clever, I use 4 PVR-250's |
| [21:53:44] | Led-Hed: | they dont use much CPU |
| [21:53:44] | clever: | nice |
| [21:53:52] | Led-Hed: | thx |
| [21:54:01] | clever: | shouldnt have any trouble flaging |
| [21:54:18] | clever: | just that you may be recording so fast you cant keep up with the flaging |
| [21:54:34] | Led-Hed: | thats what I thought, but when ever Flagging is happening, all video from backend skips |
| [21:55:10] | Led-Hed: | maybe I should go Quad Core |
| [21:55:48] | clever: | all my systems are single core except the new laptop |
| [21:55:57] | Led-Hed: | same here |
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| [21:56:14] | Led-Hed: | frontends don't need much power. No HDTV |
| [21:56:24] | clever: | the new laptop is 1.8ghz dual core |
| [21:56:25] | clever: | its for dad to do his work on |
| [21:56:57] | clever: | ive managed to get a linux drive to boot in it thru the hdd bay |
| [21:57:11] | clever: | but havent built qt on there yet so myth isnt even ready yet |
| [21:58:33] | Led-Hed: | clever, if you ran Mini-Myth, then you could just netboot to MythTV and never tough the Host OS. :) |
| [21:58:41] | Led-Hed: | thats what I do on all my kids PC's |
| [21:59:04] | Led-Hed: | they just have a Boot Menu that says WinXP or MythTV |
| [21:59:04] | clever: | most of my frontends where allready installed with linux to begin with |
| [21:59:20] | clever: | and the xp i just stuck a dualboot to ubuntu to test dads games in wine |
| [21:59:51] | clever: | then i later converted it to a fe |
| [21:59:59] | Led-Hed: | ya but with Mini-Myth. All you have to do to setup a new frontend is add a reservation in your DHCP server. Takes 2 minutes to add a new frontend to the house. :) |
| [22:00:03] | clever: | and would mini-myth even work with trunk svn? |
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| [22:00:39] | Led-Hed: | clever, I doubt it |
| [22:00:46] | clever: | now you see another problem:P |
| [22:00:55] | Led-Hed: | why you need SVN? |
| [22:01:07] | clever: | new features |
| [22:01:19] | Led-Hed: | like? :) |
| [22:01:33] | clever: | mythweb can stream shows thru a flash player like youtube |
| [22:01:36] | Led-Hed: | Mini-Myth is upto SVN 14972 |
| [22:01:46] | Led-Hed: | clever, thats cool |
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| [22:01:59] | code-rr: | Any one here run Myth and DVB? |
| [22:02:03] | clever: | mythtv@media:~$ mythbackend --version |
| [22:02:03] | clever: | Source code version : 15166M |
| [22:02:03] | clever: | SVN branch : trunk |
| [22:02:03] | clever: | Library API version : 0.21.20071211–1 |
| [22:02:03] | clever: | Network Protocol Version: 36 |
| [22:02:06] | anykey_: | code-rr: here |
| [22:02:14] | Dibblah: | Don't paste in channel. |
| [22:02:15] | Dibblah: | :( |
| [22:02:20] | clever: | didnt meant to paste so much |
| [22:02:24] | clever: | but my mouse hates me |
| [22:02:27] | code-rr: | anykey_: do you ever get mpegs that are currupted? |
| [22:02:32] | anykey_: | code-rr: no |
| [22:02:55] | Kernel: | hmm comcast seems to have changed and/or dropped a few channels from there normal cable...any ideas to have mythtv display the channels right?.....the channels that where dropped are still shown(mtv is one) and the channels that switched are still in there old channel # |
| [22:02:56] | Dibblah: | code-rr: Which Myth version? |
| [22:03:02] | code-rr: | SVN |
| [22:03:14] | Dibblah: | Which DVB? |
| [22:03:33] | code-rr: | Library API version : 0.21.20071125–1 |
| [22:03:36] | code-rr: | DVB-S |
| [22:03:52] | Dibblah: | Signal strength issue? |
| [22:03:59] | code-rr: | Dibblah: well actualy hers the thing |
| [22:04:14] | code-rr: | Dibblah: im running a NOVA -s on kernel 2.6.18 and it locks.. ig et timeouts in my dmesg though |
| [22:04:22] | Dibblah: | (Some DVB-s cards are not anywhere near as sensitive as some STBs) |
| [22:04:35] | Dibblah: | Timeouts such as...? |
| [22:04:51] | Dibblah: | (Pastebin) |
| [22:05:21] | code-rr: | "cx88[0]/2: cx8802_timeout |
| [22:05:25] | code-rr: | just a flood of them |
| [22:05:43] | code-rr: | when i upgraded to kernel 2.6.22 the card will NOT lock any longer |
| [22:05:59] | code-rr: | status 01 or 03.. no lock :-S (even with dvb tools like szap) |
| [22:06:08] | code-rr: | i downgraded to 2.6.18 and it locks fine agian |
| [22:07:18] | code-rr: | when i try to stream a recording from MythWeb the audio gets reallyl out of sync |
| [22:07:35] | code-rr: | in mythback end i see mpeg errors like this: |
| [22:07:36] | code-rr: | http://pastebin.com/m502fa66e |
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| [22:08:55] | code-rr: | so any ideas? |
| [22:12:34] | code-rr: | :-S |
| [22:14:53] | code-rr: | =( |
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| [22:18:45] | arod: | I'm running a backend and trying to connect from a frontend on a different pc. console says "unable to connect to database". same error from frontend running on the backend pc if I change backend location from localhost to 192.168.0.4. any clue? |
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| [22:19:05] | code-rr: | so any one have any ideas? |
| [22:23:06] | BULLE: | drop a mail on the dvb user mailinglist ? |
| [22:23:49] | squish102: | any1 know how to try get the backend to display more information. i need to know what it is doing/not doing with upnp media center |
| [22:24:03] | code-rr: | squish102: yes you can set debugging flags |
| [22:24:26] | code-rr: | mythbackend -v help |
| [22:24:47] | squish102: | media extender works well with windows home server, but mythtv wont stream the same stuff |
| [22:25:27] | code-rr: | squish102: i think you want the upnp flag |
| [22:26:30] | GreyFoxx: | the verbose logs regarding upnp stuff are not very detailed unless you already understand the code |
| [22:26:42] | squish102: | oh that sucks :( |
| [22:26:59] | squish102: | it works for recordings, but not for videos |
| [22:27:09] | code-rr: | any one know why whe i try to ffmpeg some of my mpeg4 recordings i get audio sync issues |
| [22:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | does it show them to you but you can't play? Or it doesn't show them at all ? |
| [22:28:22] | squish102: | shows them, but reports that is doesnt support it |
| [22:28:27] | squish102: | it is a dlink dsm-320 |
| [22:28:38] | GreyFoxx: | Well, depending on the codec your player might not |
| [22:28:46] | GreyFoxx: | and the container type |
| [22:28:55] | GreyFoxx: | the dsm320 wont do mkv files for example |
| [22:29:02] | squish102: | and copying the content onto windows home server plays them on the same device |
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| [22:29:52] | GreyFoxx: | depending on the upnp server some of them transcode on the fly to accomodate players that can't handle certain codecs |
| [22:29:53] | code-rr: | is it posible to convert a recorded file into liek XVID but keep it on "recorded" section? |
| [22:29:56] | squish102: | so i dont understand what mythtv is doing or maybe it is something home server is doing |
| [22:30:11] | GreyFoxx: | code-rr: Not right now, but Captian_Murdoch is working on that same kind of thing |
| [22:30:30] | GreyFoxx: | code-rr: Sorry I misread you |
| [22:30:46] | code-rr: | GreyFoxx: so you can? |
| [22:30:50] | GreyFoxx: | code-rr: Yes you can, but it requires you to do some manual steps |
| [22:31:00] | code-rr: | updating the databse, correct? |
| [22:31:04] | GreyFoxx: | If you want xvid/avi |
| [22:31:11] | ** code-rr listens ** | |
| [22:31:14] | squish102: | is there any configuration for the upnp stuff? |
| [22:31:15] | GreyFoxx: | if you are fine with mpeg4/nuv myth will do it automatically |
| [22:31:20] | GreyFoxx: | code-rr: Right |
| [22:31:29] | GreyFoxx: | if you update the databae and then just rebuild the seektable |
| [22:31:45] | GreyFoxx: | squish102: nope |
| [22:31:46] | code-rr: | GreyFoxx: how do you rebuild the seektable? |
| [22:32:01] | GreyFoxx: | mythcomflagg has a commandline for doing it |
| [22:32:09] | GreyFoxx: | can't remember it offhand |
| [22:32:25] | code-rr: | GreyFoxx: so i do it before commercial flagging? |
| [22:32:29] | GreyFoxx: | TYhere might be a menu option from the WAtch Recordings screen |
| [22:32:42] | squish102: | GreyFoxx, so your advice would be to give up on upnp, if it doesnt work out the box |
| [22:33:04] | GreyFoxx: | code-rr: No, the seektable is seperate and has nothing to do with comflags despite the program name :) |
| [22:33:30] | code-rr: | GreyFoxx: whats teh pourpose of the seektable. |
| [22:33:36] | GreyFoxx: | squish102: No, my advice is to do packet dumps between the player and windows, and another between the player and myth |
| [22:33:42] | GreyFoxx: | see what's different |
| [22:33:54] | BULLE: | sounds like the best plan indeed |
| [22:33:54] | GreyFoxx: | and ossibly patch myth to match the behaviour if it's different |
| [22:34:12] | squish102: | ok, will give it a go |
| [22:34:21] | GreyFoxx: | code-rr: For frame exact seeking, editting and such |
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| [22:35:12] | tom___: | I have mythtv installed under ubuntu, but i'm getting an error saying i don't have permission to mythconverg when i run mythbackend. Sure enough the database doesn't exist, but I can't find mythfilldb anywhere...can someone lend me a hand? |
| [22:35:39] | code-rr: | tom___: you need to create the database first.. fill doesnt acutaly create the databae |
| [22:35:50] | BULLE: | and that is all well documented in the howtos |
| [22:36:13] | tom___: | code-rr: so just create database mythconverg; and then run mythbackend? |
| [22:36:14] | code-rr: | in case you need spoon fed: http://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-6.html#ss6.2 |
| [22:36:33] | code-rr: | you have to feed it the database scheama |
| [22:36:41] | tom___: | code-rr: got it..thanks :-) |
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| [22:40:17] | code-rr: | what is mythwelcome for |
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| [22:52:49] | kury: | can someone help me setup my mythbox to automatically start the mythfront end using GDM/GNome? I have it so GDM automatically logs in the user & goes to the desktop but I can't get mythfrontend to run when they login |
| [22:52:59] | kury: | I have the .xsession file but.. it doesn't seem to do anything |
| [22:54:58] | iamlindoro: | kury, depending on your distro, you're looking for a item in your system preferences called "sessions." There is a startup items tab where you can put mythfrontend. |
| [22:56:28] | kury: | Gentoo is my distro.. |
| [22:56:57] | kury: | and by system preference I assume your talking about looking in the program menu items? |
| [22:57:19] | iamlindoro: | On Ubuntu it i System -> Preferences -> Sessions |
| [22:57:22] | iamlindoro: | er is |
| [22:58:18] | iamlindoro: | But the program run is, I believe, gnome-session-properties |
| [22:58:33] | iamlindoro: | which you ought to be able to invoke from a terminal |
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| [23:05:09] | kury: | ha......well that was easy....... I wonder why on the wiki they have you editing files if its a GUI setup.. :P |
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| [23:24:21] | kury: | When I start a video from MythVideo it starts the sound but no video (I think its showing up behind the myhfrontend) anyone know how to fix this. |
| [23:26:41] | Anduin: | kury: You have a window manager? |
| [23:27:30] | kury: | whatever gnomes default is.. (metacity I think) |
| [23:33:59] | kury: | I tried adding the -ontop parameter to the mplayer command but that didn't seem to fix it.. |
| [23:34:14] | Anduin: | kury: It is probably doing unfriendly things with the full-screen app launched. |
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| [23:36:16] | kury: | any ideas how I could fix it? |
| [23:36:55] | johndbritton: | kury: could you repeat the question... i missed it |
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| [23:37:45] | iamlindoro: | kury, how does the video play when you try to play it outside of mythfrontend |
| [23:37:50] | iamlindoro: | is the video present? |
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| [23:38:27] | kury: | hummm I stumbled across some of mythfronends output and it seems its a mplayer problem... its not playing any video for my files.. :( |
| [23:38:42] | kury: | it use to work fine playing it manually.. let me try again |
| [23:39:38] | kury: | humm OK.. its that "-vo xv" switch being passed to mplayer my video drivers don't support it aparently |
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| [23:41:19] | kury: | Cool.. I got it.. it was that -vo option being past by default.. |
| [23:41:29] | kury: | Thanks for the help guys/gals |
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| [23:44:41] | kury: | My remote works for the mythfront end but not in mplayer now.. do I need to make a seperate config file to translate my IR buttons into keyboard presses or is something else setup wrong? |
| [23:45:48] | iamlindoro: | mplayer gets its lirc infor from ~/.lircrc |
| [23:46:01] | iamlindoro: | so you need both ~/.mythtv/lircrc and ~/.lircrc |
| [23:46:12] | iamlindoro: | one preceded by the period, one without, and in different directories |
| [23:46:28] | iamlindoro: | and ~/.lircrc needs mplayer entries to work properly, of course |
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| [23:47:10] | iamlindoro: | most people create one lircrc file in one of the locations, containing keybindings for myth, xine, mplayer, and whatever else, and symlink one to the other. |
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| [23:48:52] | kury: | so is the lircd switching which config file it uses based on the active program? |
| [23:49:31] | iamlindoro: | no, the lircd doesn't deal with lircrc at all... the program (mythtv, mplayer, etc) reads the lircrc, not lircd |
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| [23:50:07] | kury: | Ahh... but their is a different config then for each LIRC equipt program? |
| [23:50:21] | iamlindoro: | corect |
| [23:50:23] | iamlindoro: | er correct |
| [23:50:27] | fysa: | unless you use irexec |
| [23:50:40] | fysa: | then you can keep them all in ~/.lircrc I think. |
| [23:51:54] | gbee: | Another update, new icons, alignment fixes etc: http://miffteevee.co.uk/themes/metallurgy.html |
| [23:52:25] | gbee: | keep the bug reports coming and I might just get it finished before Christmas |
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| [23:54:00] | Egghead: | is there a good site for video cards known to work well with mythtv and are fast enough for playback of HD? |
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| [23:54:12] | iamlindoro: | nvidia.com ;) |
| [23:54:20] | Egghead: | lol |
| [23:54:22] | J-e-f-f-A: | gbee: neat domain name... miffteevee... mythtv... cool. ;-) |
| [23:54:49] | iamlindoro: | anyway, the video card will only accelerate mpeg-2 playback for you, and even then, can only do so much... processor still comes into play in playing back HD |
| [23:55:46] | Egghead: | so u think a low cost pci-x16 nvidia card will doit fine? |
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| [23:56:00] | iamlindoro: | So if you are playing MPEG-2 HD, you want a P4 2.4 Ghz or So and a Nvidia 5200 or better (although better won't do you any good). For x.264 HD, you probably want a pretty decent C2Duo and again, a nVidia card |
| [23:56:03] | gbee: | Egghead: any recent (or not so recent) Nvidia card should be fine, most Intel and Ati chipsets will also be ok since the video card has nothing to do with video decoding |
| [23:56:17] | J-e-f-f-A: | Egghead: Just about any nvidia card will work with HD, especially with XVMC enabled. |
| [23:56:37] | Egghead: | :) |
| [23:56:42] | J-e-f-f-A: | Egghead: And like iamlindoro says – xvmc won' |
| [23:56:43] | Egghead: | thanks |
| [23:56:48] | MaverickTech: | I thought XvMC and HD together was not good ? |
| [23:57:01] | J-e-f-f-A: | Egghead: ... xvmc won't do you any good with h.264 atm... so you'll need a good processor |
| [23:57:03] | Egghead: | Xv isnt that unstable? |
| [23:57:16] | iamlindoro: | on the contrary, for lower power systems, XvMC is sometimes the only way to get consistent MPEG-@ Playback |
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| [23:57:24] | iamlindoro: | er MPEG-2 |
| [23:57:31] | J-e-f-f-A: | xvmc works only with mpeg2 (I think) , so it's only good for US hd that's mpeg2. |
| [23:57:35] | iamlindoro: | But it's best to avoid it if you have a decent system |
| [23:57:54] | Egghead: | will the pci x16 buy me anything? |
| [23:57:58] | iamlindoro: | not really |
| [23:57:58] | J-e-f-f-A: | Yeah, if you've got enough horsepower to do it in software, then go for it. |
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| [23:58:23] | iamlindoro: | basically with regards to video playback, a 5200 is as good as an 8800 in linux |
| [23:58:36] | iamlindoro: | so might as well put that money into a decent processor |
| [23:58:50] | J-e-f-f-A: | Egghead: Like iamlindoro says, not really-- but if that's what your motherboard has, then that's what you'll have to go with... ;-) |
| [23:58:56] | Egghead: | then maybe, Xv + reg pci is better then no Xv and pci x16? |
| [23:59:05] | kury: | iamlindoro, fysa: ok... I added mplayer options into my ~/.lircrc file.. and mplayer is configured with lirc... but nothing happens when I try & use mplayer with the remote still.. |
| [23:59:44] | J-e-f-f-A: | kury: When you start mplayer, what lirc file is it opening? |
| [23:59:45] | Egghead: | so far ive just tested out myth with old system, im trying to fig out best system to go buy |
| [23:59:49] | iamlindoro: | kury, proper permissions, and are you sure you used proper format for mplayer? I will pastebin my lircrc for you |
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