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| [00:01:14] | Toxicity999: | Well this post gives me a basic script... If I can just incorperate it in some way which it, for one, locks the tuner, and for two will return things as they were before it execued I could make this work just wine |
| [00:01:41] | Toxicity999: | Only issue... if I wanted to play on a remote box... it would be *really* a pain. |
| [00:01:55] | iamlindoro_: | RPGs only |
| [00:02:26] | iamlindoro_: | and even then.. yuck |
| [00:02:38] | Toxicity999: | I just tried it in mplayer, it works perfectly. |
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| [00:03:23] | Toxicity999: | myth seems to return to what it was doing when the script exits, so I don't need to worry about that so much. |
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| [00:03:52] | Toxicity999: | it's mainly a problem of to do this remotely I still need these commands issued locally... |
| [00:04:18] | Toxicity999: | any thoughts on that? |
| [00:04:56] | GreyFoxx: | I don't see how you are going to do it remotely |
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| [00:05:42] | lenbancaster: | 'evening all |
| [00:05:42] | Toxicity999: | Exactly, mmm. |
| [00:05:47] | Toxicity999: | Hey. |
| [00:06:31] | lenbancaster: | So... any body playing with Mythtv-Vid yet? |
| [00:06:47] | GreyFoxx: | That was merged into trunk back in August? |
| [00:06:50] | lenbancaster: | ...as in the OpenGL Video renderer |
| [00:07:01] | GreyFoxx: | there isn't much difference in the -vid branch and trunk now |
| [00:07:10] | lenbancaster: | sure |
| [00:07:38] | lenbancaster: | Keen to find out how well it handles framerate upscaling |
| [00:07:51] | lenbancaster: | e.g. 50Hz pal over 60Hz VGA |
| [00:08:42] | GreyFoxx: | I don't use the GL renderer as I find it uses more CPU onthan regular XV |
| [00:09:22] | lenbancaster: | yeah, that's what I'd read |
| [00:09:56] | lenbancaster: | I tried to give it a go to see how big a knock it had, but haven't had any success getting it working |
| [00:10:11] | lenbancaster: | "VideoOutputXv: Desired video renderer 'opengl' not available. |
| [00:10:11] | lenbancaster: | codec 'MPEG2' makes 'xv-blit,xshm,xlib,' available, using 'xv-blit' instead." |
| [00:10:59] | Toxicity999: | Jeez... there must be *some* way to wrangle these commands to be issued remotely to my server. Past the ivtv/v4lctl commands I need to access remote dev nodes directly too. |
| [00:12:13] | GreyFoxx: | Toxicity999: The bandwidth requirements to stream that raw YUV frames over the network are your problem |
| [00:12:21] | GreyFoxx: | and the latency you will get from it |
| [00:12:29] | Toxicity999: | ah, der. Didn't even think of that. |
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| [00:15:39] | directhex: | you mean people don't have ddr infiniband networks in their homes? |
| [00:15:41] | directhex: | cheapskates! |
| [00:18:46] | Toxicity999: | GreyFoxx new idea, I set up a daemon to on the fly encode the raw input (really lightly, just to get the size down instantly) then have it create a stream which I can play remotely with mplayer. |
| [00:19:29] | duerF: | bah, giving up for now |
| [00:19:34] | directhex: | you could encode it in rtjpeg, and wrap it up in a very simple container format |
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| [00:23:35] | Toxicity999: | directhex well it's not like for storage, I'm going to on the fly encode, so I can have an ear 0 latency stream for use with gaming consoles. |
| [00:23:43] | Toxicity999: | *a near |
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| [00:24:12] | directhex: | mmhmm |
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| [00:25:23] | Toxicity999: | It's turning out to be a pretty complex setup... but the rationale is pretty simple in concept. |
| [00:26:28] | Toxicity999: | Essentially I have a daemon on my desktop (myth server) which will pull from the direct access audio/video dev nodes, and on the fly do some very light encoding, so it can make it through my LAN. Then I can use mplayer on a remote system to play the stream, and there I have games. |
| [00:26:38] | Toxicity999: | BUT, how the tap-dancing-christ do I implement that. |
| [00:27:26] | i3ooi3oo: | is there a script that import the songs in the directory when using the music libarary tools |
| [00:27:42] | directhex: | maybe i'm missing the obvious, but how do you intend to actually control these games? or turn the console on or of, or change game? |
| [00:28:25] | Toxicity999: | directhex manually, it'll all be the same, just piped through my server for clean-ness and hacker points. |
| [00:29:24] | Toxicity999: | though if I REALLY want to, I can rig the PS2 to allow external tray and power commands via lan =P |
| [00:29:30] | Toxicity999: | but that's beside the point. |
| [00:30:20] | Toxicity999: | and I'm going to try to use mencoder for it's stream ability, but I have no fscking clue how to use it. |
| [00:31:57] | Toxicity999: | for example, anyone know how to get it to accept separate audio and video dev nodes for input? |
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| [00:39:57] | Toxicity999: | thinking about trying ffserver instead, hmm. |
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| [00:57:38] | mzb_d800: | i3ooi3oo: music tools on the setup page |
| [01:00:47] | iamlindoro: | Heh. This all sounds like an answer in search of a problem. |
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| [01:26:27] | Tanthrix: | Weird. I think my LCD's reflection off the opposing wall is causing my MCE USB IR reciever to think it's recieving something and blink |
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| [01:34:34] | iamlindoro: | It'll go off for just about anything... lots of normal lights even give off some infra-red... I've never noticed even a bit of interference |
| [01:34:45] | iamlindoro: | ie, it still works for me no matter what |
| [01:35:01] | Tanthrix: | Likewise. I think the sensor circuit is just a bit too dumb. |
| [01:35:51] | iamlindoro: | Yeah, if it bothers you you can cut off the visible LED with no problems |
| [01:36:07] | iamlindoro: | since it's only there as a "hint" that it's working anyway |
| [01:37:04] | Tanthrix: | Aye. |
| [01:37:54] | iamlindoro: | Could have been worse... could have been a *blue* LED. Whoever invented those should be sterilized. |
| [01:39:24] | iamlindoro: | Since I'm fairly certain if I slept in a lead, airproof, impermeable coffin, The blue LED on the one Windows Machine in my house would still prevent me from sleeping. I mean, does a power button REALLY need to be lit by a 50,000 watt blue LED powerful enough to knock a plane out of the sky? |
| [01:40:39] | iamlindoro: | interestingly enough, on a related note, I have two photographer-style lights facing upward cinema style around my screen... they give off enough IR that if I point my wii remote at them from far enough back, they can act as the IR bar. |
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| [01:42:03] | Toxicity999: | I'm driving myself completely crazy trying to figure it out. |
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| [02:05:09] | Toxicity999: | GreyFoxx Was it you that recommended trying some form of cheap framebuffer device for my task? Any specific thoughts on what to look for? |
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| [02:15:58] | Tanthrix: | Toxicity999: You're trying to setup a way to play your console games remotely, via linux? |
| [02:16:35] | Toxicity999: | heh, yes. not directly, just A/V |
| [02:16:54] | Tanthrix: | How will you manage the controls? |
| [02:17:04] | Toxicity999: | Like I said, not directly, just A/V |
| [02:17:29] | Tanthrix: | But how will you manage the controls? Or are you just wanting to watch someone else play for some reason? |
| [02:17:54] | Toxicity999: | No... It's my console, using it for controls, streaming the Audio and video to my TV through my Server. |
| [02:18:01] | Toxicity999: | For hack points and cleanness. |
| [02:18:09] | Tanthrix: | Oh, gotcha. |
| [02:18:34] | Tanthrix: | Anyway, I'm 99.9 percent sure what you want to do is impossible. |
| [02:18:50] | Tanthrix: | Latency is a bitch. |
| [02:19:53] | Tanthrix: | If I were you, and I *really* wanted some super cool setup, I'd use lirc and an ir blaster to do automatic input switching on the TV. |
| [02:21:02] | Tanthrix: | Even make a serial port controlled relay to turn your consoles on and off. |
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| [02:22:18] | Tanthrix: | In fact, that's the only setup I'd ever do for a situation like that. Otherwise you're basically voluntarily degrading your signal for no good reason at all. That is assuming you could get a setup that is lag free (enough not to be perceptable) in the first place, which I doubt is possible. |
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| [02:53:39] | mikeones: | hello |
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| [02:55:05] | mikeones: | I just 'svn up' yesterday on myhthplugins and mythtv. Now Some of my recorded shows do not show up in mythweb. I see this in he log |
| [02:55:17] | mikeones: | --generate-preview 0x0 --chanid 1023 --starttime 20071213195700 ' |
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| [02:55:42] | mikeones: | 2007-12–13 20:47:02.447 Preview Error: Encountered problems running 'mythbackend |
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| [03:15:45] | wasabi: | So, I was wondering: is there a tech much like DAAP for video that mythtv can consume? |
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| [03:33:57] | oobe: | wasabi, what is DAAP |
| [03:34:20] | wasabi: | apple's itunes stuff |
| [03:35:05] | oobe: | oh well mythtv has mythmusic |
| [03:35:46] | oobe: | do you want to plug in an ipod or somthing cause im sure its been done never looked into myself as i hate them |
| [03:35:53] | Agrajag-: | wasabi: there's a lot of video streaming protocols, any could be used in a way similar to daap |
| [03:36:03] | wasabi: | naw. just want something other than NFS to expose video/audio to myth |
| [03:36:05] | wasabi: | because NFS sucks ass |
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| [03:38:18] | oobe: | so you have another pc / mac on the network that shares media and want to use somthing else besides NFS |
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| [04:14:09] | tenchi21: | Hi |
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| [04:14:48] | tenchi21: | can someone help me with choosing hardware to be a mythtv box |
| [04:21:53] | tenchi21: | I want to record like 4 SD & 2 HD streams simultaneously on a backend |
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| [04:33:37] | darkizard: | i get this kenrel panic not sync? |
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| [04:38:26] | k-man: | hello |
| [04:38:38] | k-man: | whats the status with multirec? |
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| [04:55:00] | cesman: | tenchi21: the requires for a backend aren't that great |
| [04:55:07] | cesman: | tenchi21: provide more details... |
| [04:55:17] | cesman: | is that box going to act as a frontend as well? |
| [04:55:47] | cesman: | tenchi21: http://www.knoppmyth.net/phpBB2/index.php?c=5 |
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| [05:00:01] | tenchi21: | cesman, I plan to have a seperate machine for the front end but temp yes it would have a front end on that machine also |
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| [05:01:36] | cesman: | tenchi21: you'll want a motherboard w/ 4 PCI slots |
| [05:02:06] | cesman: | I'd say 2 PVR-500s and 2 pcHDTV 5500 |
| [05:02:34] | cesman: | I suppose you can also settle for 2 for 3 PCI slots and get 1 hdHomeRun |
| [05:03:11] | tenchi21: | currently i have a pvr-150 & atsc110 that i have in a dell demension 2400 (2.6ghz w/ 1gb ram) |
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| [05:05:31] | tenchi21: | as my first mythtv box and so far i can't get any signals in properly i think it might be my antenna though |
| [05:05:42] | cesman: | tenchi21: w/ a geforce 5200 w/ 128 megs O'RAM and XvMC enabled that system should hanle HD w/o issue |
| [05:05:50] | cesman: | antenneaweb.org |
| [05:06:22] | cesman: | http://www.antennaweb.org/aw/welcome.aspx |
| [05:06:24] | cesman: | rather... |
| [05:06:38] | tenchi21: | yeah i don't really understand the chart colors |
| [05:06:39] | cesman: | may sure it is pointed in the right direction if need be... |
| [05:06:48] | tenchi21: | i get most of the colors in my area listed |
| [05:07:19] | tenchi21: | on my ota box i get a signal strength of 98% |
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| [05:07:52] | tenchi21: | but on mythtv i get like 3 channels and most of them overlap between other channels |
| [05:08:05] | tenchi21: | like 3 & 4 seem to merge |
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| [06:01:16] | wasabi: | So... I found this: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/UPnP |
| [06:01:25] | wasabi: | Seems to indicate myth supports upnp. Cool. I have no idea where the interface is! |
| [06:01:47] | wasabi: | oh i see, it can't. |
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| [06:55:44] | kavorka^: | what signal strength do you guys get with your dvb-t cards on average? ie when you press F7 |
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| [06:58:14] | oobe: | kavorka^, i get around 40 – 60 % reception in mythtv |
| [06:58:23] | oobe: | just using rabit ears |
| [06:58:51] | oobe: | had trouble with one channel for a while but now everything is perfect |
| [06:59:17] | oobe: | i dont know about F7 never used it what program were you refereing to |
| [06:59:20] | kavorka^: | hmmm i cant get above 54% for all channels and i have a new aerial and cabling etc....ive got one channel dropping out and its driving me nuts |
| [06:59:50] | kavorka^: | oobe: you know when you change channels in myth in briefly flashes the signal strength |
| [06:59:58] | kavorka^: | in=it |
| [06:59:59] | oobe: | yeah |
| [07:00:09] | kavorka^: | F7 brings that up |
| [07:00:11] | oobe: | i just checked out F& |
| [07:00:14] | oobe: | F7 |
| [07:00:39] | oobe: | did it to many times and crashed FE and BE :P |
| [07:00:47] | oobe: | but i know what you mean now |
| [07:01:06] | kavorka^: | ive never had problems in the past so i dont know whats an acceptable value as i never much attention to it |
| [07:01:23] | kavorka^: | yeah i had to upgrade my kernel becuase my FE was freezing too when i ran F7 |
| [07:01:44] | oobe: | i have had perfect reception when it said 0% on my trouble channel |
| [07:02:07] | oobe: | then lots of artifacts at around 20 – 60 % |
| [07:02:11] | kavorka^: | and u have a dvb card not analog? |
| [07:02:18] | oobe: | dvb-t |
| [07:02:42] | oobe: | for some reason what fixed it is pulling the antenna out of the RF half way |
| [07:02:49] | kavorka^: | so frustrating..and its my fav channels thats dropping out too |
| [07:02:56] | oobe: | so it still fits but just almost loose |
| [07:03:05] | kavorka^: | hmm looks like i need to climb up onto the roof again :( |
| [07:03:14] | oobe: | no i mean |
| [07:03:23] | oobe: | the the input of the tuner |
| [07:03:45] | oobe: | im just using rabbit ears by the im in australia using FTA only |
| [07:03:53] | kavorka^: | thats strange...sounds like u need a new connector |
| [07:03:58] | oobe: | just so you know what this advice is based on |
| [07:04:02] | kavorka^: | yeah im in melbourne....sbs is dropping out |
| [07:04:21] | oobe: | i had nothing but probs with channel 9 |
| [07:04:30] | oobe: | sd or hd hd was worse |
| [07:04:42] | oobe: | but both really bad |
| [07:04:48] | kavorka^: | with channel 9 i had to add 166khz to the frequency in transport editor |
| [07:05:12] | kavorka^: | same with sbs..i had to add 166k |
| [07:05:22] | oobe: | im in sydney so we are in different ranges |
| [07:05:37] | oobe: | but i found a post suggesting somthing similar |
| [07:05:53] | kavorka^: | what card do u have? |
| [07:05:54] | oobe: | and it worked but with only small improvement |
| [07:06:04] | oobe: | dvico dual 4 |
| [07:06:14] | kavorka^: | yeah ive got the dvico dual 2 |
| [07:06:21] | oobe: | ok nice |
| [07:06:32] | kavorka^: | u have to apply a patch to get it working yeah? |
| [07:06:43] | oobe: | well i dont have a fualty connector |
| [07:07:07] | oobe: | yeah but the newest v4l-dvb now supports it |
| [07:07:22] | kavorka^: | im suprised you can pick up fta with rabbit ears |
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| [07:07:41] | oobe: | not only pick it up but like i said its almost perfect |
| [07:07:49] | kavorka^: | wow |
| [07:07:58] | kavorka^: | u must be in a good area |
| [07:08:10] | oobe: | before i got channel 9 working perfect every other channel was already perfect |
| [07:08:27] | oobe: | i blame channel 9 |
| [07:09:01] | kavorka^: | have u checked the dba website for towers in your area? |
| [07:09:20] | kavorka^: | maybe channel 9 has annother freq in syd u can use |
| [07:09:31] | oobe: | yeah i can get a choice 2 they use the same frquency |
| [07:09:38] | kavorka^: | ok |
| [07:09:47] | oobe: | it was very frustrating |
| [07:09:49] | kavorka^: | so your using stock kernel 2.6.23? |
| [07:09:57] | oobe: | yeah |
| [07:10:02] | oobe: | vanilla |
| [07:10:12] | kavorka^: | same here |
| [07:10:25] | oobe: | and dvb-v4l tip |
| [07:10:36] | kavorka^: | i went from 2.6.19 to 23 hoping there was an improvement but same results |
| [07:10:53] | kavorka^: | tip? |
| [07:11:08] | oobe: | tip is what they call the latest tree |
| [07:11:20] | oobe: | dont know what it stands for |
| [07:11:43] | kavorka^: | ok |
| [07:11:44] | oobe: | dont know what modules ur card uses either i know there different |
| [07:11:58] | oobe: | but im pretty sure none of that will help |
| [07:12:11] | oobe: | sounds like u need to boost ur feqeuncy |
| [07:12:25] | kavorka^: | mt352 and zl10353 (ie zarlink) |
| [07:12:37] | kavorka^: | ie similar to dd4 |
| [07:12:57] | oobe: | my friend bought a nice antenna for $40 with a signal booster |
| [07:13:03] | kavorka^: | yeah ive been tearing my hair out...ill get the aerial checked out |
| [07:13:06] | Dibblah: | tip doesn't stand for anything. |
| [07:13:14] | Dibblah: | It's just the "tip" :) |
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| [07:13:20] | kavorka^: | well mine aerial is barely 2 years old and cost me $300 |
| [07:13:24] | oobe: | he couldnt get channel nine either and he lived near me |
| [07:13:26] | Dibblah: | ie point of pointyness. |
| [07:14:02] | oobe: | Dibblah, thanks for that |
| [07:14:26] | oobe: | i like what wine and gnu stand for |
| [07:14:50] | Dibblah: | Truth, Freedom and the non-American way? |
| [07:15:07] | oobe: | GNU not unix |
| [07:15:19] | oobe: | wine is not an emulator |
| [07:15:30] | kavorka^: | classic |
| [07:15:48] | oobe: | yeah |
| [07:15:48] | Dibblah: | Actually, I know that :) |
| [07:15:49] | kavorka^: | oobe: what distro u using? |
| [07:15:58] | oobe: | ubuntu |
| [07:16:56] | oobe: | but i dont think that matters cause i experimented with loads of different distros and drivers software changes before and was able to reproduce the same errors |
| [07:17:11] | kavorka^: | true...after all they use the same kernel |
| [07:17:25] | oobe: | yeah |
| [07:17:46] | oobe: | i use ubuntu cause i like it |
| [07:17:59] | kavorka^: | i hear alot of good things about it |
| [07:18:13] | oobe: | i would hate to be stuck with an os cause its the only one that worked with my tuner |
| [07:18:29] | oobe: | yeah i like it |
| [07:18:47] | kavorka^: | i'd use it to but i prefer kde to gnome |
| [07:18:54] | kavorka^: | too* |
| [07:19:22] | oobe: | i use kubuntu actually |
| [07:19:27] | oobe: | it has kde |
| [07:19:37] | oobe: | its called kde for that reason |
| [07:20:00] | kavorka^: | yep...should give it a go one day |
| [07:20:10] | oobe: | thats the only thing i dont like about ubuntu is that they rename the OS for having a different dekstop |
| [07:20:16] | oobe: | i used to be a slacker |
| [07:20:25] | oobe: | and i used many desktops |
| [07:20:26] | anykey_: | "DVB: TDA10023: tda10023_readreg: readreg error (ret == -121)" <- someone seen such messages? |
| [07:20:51] | oobe: | where is this from ? |
| [07:21:03] | kavorka^: | im on gentoo....actually been using same desktop since 2003...and i cant be bother switching |
| [07:21:43] | oobe: | is dd2 in the kernel ? |
| [07:21:54] | oobe: | dvico dual 2 |
| [07:22:35] | oobe: | just curious |
| [07:22:49] | kavorka^: | yeah it is...and have to use a firmware patch to get the usb tuner working |
| [07:23:06] | kavorka^: | dont know how mature the dd2 driver is though |
| [07:23:07] | anykey_: | oobe: dmesg |
| [07:23:18] | oobe: | you mean adding au firmware to /lib/firmware? |
| [07:23:58] | oobe: | anykey_, are you having problem or just curious |
| [07:24:16] | anykey_: | oobe: yes, the channel scanner locks up |
| [07:24:33] | anykey_: | though it works outside of myth |
| [07:25:04] | kavorka^: | oobe: yeah gentoo has a dvb blackbird firmware package which i install and then it works off the bat |
| [07:25:58] | oobe: | ok |
| [07:26:19] | oobe: | anykey_, what tuner do you use |
| [07:27:07] | anykey_: | oobe: a KNC1 compatible one (Satelco EasyWatch) |
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| [07:28:49] | anykey_: | oobe: I can use czap & dvbstream to record something that is encrypted |
| [07:29:37] | oobe: | are u using a cam emu or somthing like that |
| [07:30:02] | anykey_: | no, a CI, a CAM and a smartcard |
| [07:30:19] | oobe: | i dont really know about non free tv but that could be causing probs if your were which ur not |
| [07:30:22] | anykey_: | the CAM is an original conax |
| [07:31:27] | Dibblah: | Have you tried removing the CAM for the duration of the scan? |
| [07:32:08] | Dibblah: | It makes no real difference to have it available at that point. |
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| [07:32:32] | Dibblah: | And there have been some rumors that some cards perform worse with the CAM in the stream. |
| [07:33:17] | anykey_: | not yet, but is it any different if myth scans instead of 'dvbscan'? |
| [07:33:23] | anykey_: | because it works using the command line tools |
| [07:35:50] | oobe: | kavorka^, im watching nieghbours and it appears tragedy has struck ramsey st |
| [07:37:48] | pat_: | people still watch that? |
| [07:37:58] | pat_: | I used to watch it 20 years ago |
| [07:38:13] | oobe: | lol it has changed a lot |
| [07:38:24] | oobe: | i dont watch it just messing round with myth |
| [07:38:47] | pat_: | pretty much 20 years since scott and charlene got married on it |
| [07:38:52] | oobe: | didnt think many peeps where would know what i was talking about |
| [07:39:01] | oobe: | yeah your right |
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| [07:39:08] | oobe: | i was like 8 years old |
| [07:39:13] | oobe: | and i remember that |
| [07:39:38] | oobe: | nothing but up hill for jason donavon ever since |
| [07:39:39] | ** pat_ continues drinking and waiting for people to arrive at his 31st birthday party ** | |
| [07:40:20] | pat_: | since I advertised a start in 50 minutes I'm not really expecting anyone for a while |
| [07:40:21] | ** oobe does nothing cause hes 28 and doesnt drink and its not his bday ** | |
| [07:40:43] | oobe: | everyone tries to be late |
| [07:40:49] | oobe: | happy bday btw |
| [07:42:55] | kavorka^: | oobe: lol |
| [07:43:19] | kavorka^: | i can honestly say ive never watched an episode |
| [07:43:29] | oobe: | really |
| [07:43:42] | oobe: | oh your favourate channel is sbs |
| [07:43:48] | oobe: | good for you |
| [07:44:05] | kavorka^: | yep...just never got into it...french porn on sbs anyday for me :P |
| [07:46:32] | kavorka^: | btw, whats SNR as opposed to signal strength? |
| [07:47:02] | oobe: | dont know maybe noise reduction? |
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| [07:47:43] | Dibblah: | "Strength" is the magnitude of the carrier (sometimes) |
| [07:47:45] | oobe: | Signal-to-Noise Ratio # SNR is an engineering term for the power ratio between a signal (meaningful information) and background noise. The higher the ratio, the better the image. |
| [07:48:13] | oobe: | google define: snr |
| [07:48:15] | Dibblah: | SNR is the 'quality' of the signal. |
| [07:48:27] | kavorka^: | ok thanks guys |
| [07:48:46] | oobe: | dibblah knows i was just clutching at straws |
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| [07:49:02] | Dibblah: | A good example of both is an antenna amplifier. It increases signal strength, but DECREASES SNR. |
| [07:49:20] | Dibblah: | So in some cases, will make reception worse. |
| [07:49:43] | oobe: | kavorka^, i would really consider getting somthing like my friend got cause he couldnt get channel 9 with his set top box or his tuner |
| [07:50:03] | oobe: | how i fixed my prob was a fluke |
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| [07:50:49] | Dibblah: | Huh? You had high voltages on your antenna? |
| [07:50:52] | Dibblah: | ;) |
| [07:51:23] | kavorka^: | oobe: go the signal booster you reckon? how much do they cost and do they actually work? |
| [07:52:38] | kavorka^: | from memory i used to have signal strengths in the 65% range now im on 54–57%...when it goes under 55 thats when it cuts out |
| [07:52:57] | oobe: | well first he got somthing that didnt work and he took it back now he has somthing different i really didnt get all the info if you want i can ask him |
| [07:53:02] | kavorka^: | but the weird thing is that the usb tuner is fine with sbs whereas the onboard one is cactus |
| [07:53:06] | Dibblah: | Signal strength really doesn't matter. |
| [07:53:19] | Dibblah: | SNR doesn't really matter. |
| [07:53:25] | kavorka^: | Dibblah: so what matters? |
| [07:53:31] | Dibblah: | UNC. |
| [07:53:38] | oobe: | good moral fibre |
| [07:53:38] | Dibblah: | In szap / etc. |
| [07:53:50] | Dibblah: | UNCorrectable blocks. |
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| [07:54:20] | oobe: | its a dvb-t card by the way |
| [07:54:29] | oobe: | so s-zap wont work |
| [07:54:35] | kavorka^: | is there a utility i can use that will give me signal strength/quality whatever u call it in user friendly output? |
| [07:54:36] | Dibblah: | ber is also a good measure. |
| [07:54:42] | Dibblah: | tzap. |
| [07:55:03] | Dibblah: | But it's not all that 'user friendly' :) |
| [07:55:06] | kavorka^: | but tzap needs an input file...cant i make it scan the whole spectrum and give me a summary? |
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| [07:55:38] | Dibblah: | No, that'll be dvbscan. |
| [07:55:47] | Dibblah: | But I don't know if that works on ATSC. |
| [07:55:55] | kavorka^: | is dvbscan what mythtv uses? |
| [07:55:59] | Dibblah: | No. |
| [07:56:06] | Dibblah: | It uses it's internal scanner. |
| [07:56:18] | kavorka^: | ok letme check it out..brb |
| [07:57:17] | kavorka^: | looks like dvbscan needs initial tuning data as well |
| [07:58:18] | kavorka^: | what are mplayer and kaffeine based on? their scanning utilities i mean |
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| [08:00:26] | oobe: | signal amplififer antenna is what my friend uses he just rang he got it from dick smith |
| [08:00:58] | kavorka^: | oobe: thanks...ill write that down |
| [08:01:06] | oobe: | kaffiene uses the same TS lists as dvb scan |
| [08:01:19] | oobe: | dont know what its based on |
| [08:02:07] | kavorka^: | thats ok...it doesnt matter anyway...ill concentrate on fixing the aerial then |
| [08:02:09] | oobe: | Dibblah, what is ber? |
| [08:02:20] | Dibblah: | Block Error Rate. |
| [08:02:50] | oobe: | are you familiar with tzap and scan kavorka^ |
| [08:02:51] | Dibblah: | ie the number of blocks that had to be thrown away. |
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| [08:03:05] | kavorka^: | tzap yes...scan no |
| [08:03:45] | oobe: | ur in melb right? |
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| [08:04:05] | oobe: | locate au-Melbourne |
| [08:04:26] | kavorka^: | yep |
| [08:04:45] | kavorka^: | and feed it into tzap? |
| [08:04:52] | oobe: | then "scan /path/to/au-Melbourne > channels.conf" |
| [08:05:08] | oobe: | that will make you a fresh channels conf |
| [08:05:15] | kavorka^: | what package is scan part of? |
| [08:05:35] | oobe: | ubuntu calls it dvb-utils |
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| [08:06:02] | kavorka^: | ta, brb...pizza has arrived :P |
| [08:06:03] | oobe: | but i will check the tar ball name its on linuxtv.org |
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| [08:07:27] | oobe: | kavorka^, you will want to " emerge linuxtv-dvb-apps" |
| [08:07:33] | oobe: | if you havent already |
| [08:07:34] | kavorka^: | hmm i have that |
| [08:07:39] | oobe: | good |
| [08:07:46] | kavorka^: | bash: scan: command not found |
| [08:08:10] | kavorka^: | nevermind ill work it out later...brb 20 min |
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| [08:08:36] | oobe: | try to dload the tar ball and compile i found scan and tzap somtimes helped me get channel 9 back |
| [08:08:43] | oobe: | http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/LinuxTV_dvb-apps |
| [08:10:42] | tenchi21: | can someone help me with choosing an antenna http://img264.imageshack.us/my.php?image=antennawebch9.png |
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| [08:12:52] | oobe: | get the one in the middle |
| [08:18:47] | tenchi21: | can you explain a bit more |
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| [08:31:01] | tenchi21: | oobe, what do you mean by middle one |
| [08:31:42] | oobe: | sorry i was trying to be ambiguous |
| [08:31:57] | tenchi21: | ah |
| [08:32:02] | tenchi21: | ok |
| [08:33:35] | oobe: | i really dont expect you to find many useful responses with your question thats all |
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| [08:33:57] | oobe: | you probably need to do a bit of research and ask somthing more specific |
| [08:34:06] | oobe: | i cant help cause im from australia |
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| [09:00:58] | tenchi21: | well i have an antenna but i don't think its good enough |
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| [10:09:03] | Daviey: | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfWAjpRQZEI <- it's a start! |
| [10:09:54] | justinh: | oh no. not the attempt at using clutter for mythfrontend |
| [10:10:16] | justinh: | no? even more pointless, the BBC iPlayer |
| [10:11:11] | justinh: | 'using mythtv'. ROFLMAO. 'using a browser' |
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| [10:14:06] | Daviey: | justinh: still, it's a bloody fast effort.. only been out ~24hrs |
| [10:14:36] | justinh: | yeah but it should work in any linux browser |
| [10:14:40] | justinh: | no big deal there |
| [10:15:45] | Daviey: | true, but the parsing of iplayer website, integrating it into the menu – still nice |
| [10:15:49] | justinh: | us Virgin cable customers already have a superb video on demand service – sure it doesn't have everything on there but the quality's really good and there's no juggling around with browsers |
| [10:16:01] | Daviey: | really?! |
| [10:16:07] | Daviey: | I'm a vm cable customer |
| [10:16:09] | justinh: | really |
| [10:16:22] | Daviey: | Ah, cable tv – not cable bb |
| [10:16:36] | justinh: | I'm not easily impressed as you know, but I find it impressive that it actually _works_ |
| [10:16:54] | justinh: | and it won't eat into your download quota most importantly |
| [10:17:00] | Daviey: | wow, thats the nearest i've ever heard you say to "good effort" |
| [10:17:01] | siXy: | justinh: thats not the crappy lobster thing is it? |
| [10:17:05] | justinh: | UK broadband just ain't suited to VoD IPTV |
| [10:17:12] | justinh: | siXy: nope |
| [10:17:27] | Daviey: | oh dear, justinh is trying to kick up an argument from >6months ago |
| [10:17:38] | Daviey: | remember everybody ended in tears |
| [10:17:49] | justinh: | it's not. not even a little bit |
| [10:18:15] | justinh: | none of the service providers allow for it – other than companies angling to deliver their own :P |
| [10:18:21] | Daviey: | 'works for me' |
| [10:18:28] | justinh: | I don't mean it won't work |
| [10:18:41] | justinh: | I mean most T&Cs are too tight in terms of download quotas etc |
| [10:19:01] | Daviey: | 20Mb connection means ~10mins for a 1hr episode "buffering" :) |
| [10:19:31] | justinh: | til you hit the 'uh oh you downloaded too much too quick already, here's a cap for you' part |
| [10:19:41] | justinh: | =D |
| [10:19:58] | siXy: | and it doenst look like it will be any time in the near future – adsl2+ is too dependant on distance and line quality, and decent fibre connections aren't even on the horizon |
| [10:20:14] | justinh: | don't worry though, I expect they'll come up with a pricing structure to cater to iPLayer users soon |
| [10:22:30] | Daviey: | I would fully understand if apple wanted to sue the BBC.. I mean, they are using apples marketing to their advantage |
| [10:22:41] | Daviey: | not that i agree apple owns "i" |
| [10:22:53] | justinh: | don't feel like I should apologise for being a skeptic |
| [10:23:23] | justinh: | besides, if you want all your favourite shows at your fingertips in your livingroom, shouldn't you already be using mythtv? :P |
| [10:23:23] | Daviey: | But it's like using a flipped R and claiming it's not ripped from toys r us |
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| [10:24:45] | Daviey: | justinh: If they pulled their finger out and got the timing similar for here and the US sure.. But the US want Dr Who and we want heroes etc |
| [10:25:27] | justinh: | if you saw the first few episodes of heroes S2 you'd not be saying that |
| [10:25:57] | justinh: | in any case, that being the case – timing all askew, just do the unmentionable |
| [10:26:14] | Daviey: | justinh: I've watched all of S2 – and it was poop, even the producer appologised |
| [10:26:58] | justinh: | more like "the networks got in touch to say ratings are down" |
| [10:26:58] | Daviey: | justinh: Have you watched Dexter? |
| [10:27:12] | justinh: | Dexter's Laboratory? |
| [10:27:35] | justinh: | havnae heard of it if you mean something else |
| [10:28:17] | justinh: | anyway I have umpteen episodes of godknows what to watch when I'm off next week |
| [10:28:25] | justinh: | recorded content! |
| [10:28:54] | RaYmAn-Bx: | Dexter is quite interesting, although somewhat messed up (not Dexter's Laboratory) |
| [10:29:09] | justinh: | Dexter's Lab ftw! |
| [10:29:31] | justinh: | those kind of cartoons are wasted on kids imho |
| [10:29:38] | Daviey: | not seen D' Lab in yonks |
| [10:30:04] | justinh: | nor have I since we went back to pauperTV |
| [10:30:05] | directhex|work: | justinh, you're correct. CN's cartoons are full of subversive adult humour |
| [10:30:18] | Daviey: | but Dexter is pretty good, certainly worth watching – although <3 mins you'' realise it's not family friendly |
| [10:30:30] | directhex|work: | the powerpuff girls had a great reference to testicles in one ep. can't go wrong with balls |
| [10:30:48] | justinh: | it'd almost be worth paying £5 a month just for sartoon network IF you didn't have to take all the other chuffing shite |
| [10:31:53] | justinh: | UKTVgodnonotanotherfeckingchannel-plus10 etc |
| [10:31:56] | directhex|work: | justinh, i'd pay for a CN subscription. i was sad when they yanked it from TUTV |
| [10:33:37] | justinh: | actually as things are we can't move channels we're not subscribed to out of the lineup, or even to the bottom anymore. bastard Virgin |
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| [10:35:05] | siXy: | lmao @ pauperTV |
| [10:35:17] | justinh: | councilTV == Sly (with all the channels) |
| [10:35:51] | siXy: | yeah i always wonder how the jobless afford sky |
| [10:36:04] | justinh: | sofa & fridge in the garden next to the burntout car blocking the front path, but 52" HDTV in the lounge |
| [10:36:20] | directhex|work: | siXy, by buying white lightning instead of strongbow |
| [10:36:46] | justinh: | free drugs for the jobless, and let natural selection do the rest |
| [10:36:56] | siXy: | hehehe xD |
| [10:37:20] | justinh: | oops I say 'jobless' I meant those on unemployment benefit |
| [10:37:28] | siXy: | everyone in my office just stared at me – they are all wondering what i'm up to now |
| [10:37:42] | anykey_: | Are there any plans to make the mythgallery view similar to mythvideo? (remove the menu on the left side)? |
| [10:38:26] | justinh: | like what – make the menu a popup thing & it'll be obvious what's going on? that sounds ridiculous :P |
| [10:38:58] | anykey_: | ;) |
| [10:39:05] | justinh: | seriously though sounds like a great idea. where's the patch? |
| [10:39:16] | justinh: | and how many themes will it break? |
| [10:39:25] | justinh: | all of them. oh. |
| [10:39:32] | siXy: | ah you will have to redo all your themes justinh :) |
| [10:39:44] | justinh: | or just delete gallery-ui.xml |
| [10:40:13] | justinh: | thank f. the clutter thing isn't gonna happen. Eeew |
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| [10:42:37] | justinh: | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mt_7eiZaBRM |
| [10:43:30] | directhex|work: | yay for alternative frontends |
| [10:43:36] | directhex|work: | boo for crippling slowness |
| [10:43:59] | justinh: | boo for nicking projectgrayhem watermarks too :P |
| [10:44:11] | directhex|work: | a least it manages to do *gasp* menu transitions that aren't wank |
| [10:45:04] | directhex|work: | it's on a kde desktop, so probably Qt based. i wonder whether any of it could be folded back into myth |
| [10:45:08] | justinh: | I still can't believe mythtv is accused of 'looking out of date' just because things don't fly around the screen in some arse fashion |
| [10:45:39] | siXy: | my arse doesnt fly around the screen thankyou v much |
| [10:45:50] | justinh: | that said, if the blimmin iPoo nano (3rd gen) can have such a blingy UI, it's a shame |
| [10:46:11] | directhex|work: | moving elements are easier for the eye to track |
| [10:46:19] | directhex|work: | that's not news |
| [10:47:22] | directhex|work: | apple have spent an awful lot of money on UI research, and their entire UI these days is based on movement. maybe they have a point? |
| [10:50:58] | Daviey: | yeah, to be fair tho – mythfrontend UI hasn't had any major changes since 0.17.. it has been neglected somewhat |
| [10:51:04] | directhex|work: | things don't randomly appear or disappear, they come from somewhere and go to somewhere. nice & conceptually easy |
| [10:51:27] | directhex|work: | Daviey, taken a look at the code? it's neglected because of fear that going near it will give herpes |
| [10:51:46] | Daviey: | colour me unsuprised |
| [10:52:31] | justinh: | speaking of neglect – if anybody feels like helping me kick the lame themes in trunk (blootube etc) up the back end, feel free. they're falling behind |
| [10:53:34] | justinh: | only talking about keeping them up to date with changes in trunk's UI code, not revamping graphics |
| [10:53:38] | directhex|work: | you gonna svn rm iulius while you're at it? |
| [10:53:55] | justinh: | no |
| [10:54:07] | justinh: | nor G.A.N.T |
| [10:54:18] | directhex|work: | it's G.A.N.T. |
| [10:54:23] | justinh: | no it isn't |
| [10:54:25] | directhex|work: | if it were G.A.N.T, it'd work on windows |
| [10:54:29] | Daviey: | GANT needs to go foe sure |
| [10:54:29] | justinh: | it's G.A.N.T |
| [10:54:47] | directhex|work: | who made it windows friendly? :o |
| [10:54:52] | justinh: | Daviey: talk to Chutt about that. I'm not going near it |
| [10:55:10] | anykey_: | gant's not that bad at all, I think |
| [10:55:14] | ** directhex|work proposes leafers-wide as the new default ** | |
| [10:55:30] | siXy: | how about mepo-wide? |
| [10:55:36] | justinh: | how about not mepo-wide? |
| [10:55:40] | Daviey: | bah, i'd pay someone with svn privs to rm G.A.N.T |
| [10:55:42] | siXy: | ;) |
| [10:55:57] | justinh: | mepo-wide features a mascot from a windows pvr skin |
| [10:55:59] | justinh: | ffs |
| [10:56:34] | siXy: | but hes so cute! |
| [10:56:48] | siXy: | (yeah ok, im just winding you up) |
| [10:57:01] | directhex|work: | cute has a high WAF |
| [10:57:02] | justinh: | wouldn't tire of beating the sod to death with a tyre iron kinda cute? |
| [10:57:50] | justinh: | I might've just used mepo-wide & given up on theming if I liked the colour scheme |
| [10:58:18] | justinh: | sometimes I wish I did like its colour scheme |
| [10:58:52] | siXy: | i do like its colour scheme – but its the music player that clinches in in favour of glass-wide |
| [10:59:14] | Daviey: | mepo, not being 'free' atm is a problem tho |
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| [10:59:48] | justinh: | you 'free'-o-philes |
| [10:59:54] | justinh: | free as in beer ftw |
| [11:00:28] | Daviey: | justinh: whilst i agree for my personal use, it's a PITA trying to get it in use mainstream |
| [11:00:40] | justinh: | why's mainstream so important? |
| [11:00:45] | Daviey: | esp, as the author cba to reply to my email :| |
| [11:00:59] | justinh: | ah world domination ubuntuites :) |
| [11:01:20] | Daviey: | justinh: mainstream is importiant to me, for a certain distribution |
| [11:01:23] | justinh: | FWIW I wouldn't bat an eyelid if people stopped packaging my crap |
| [11:01:41] | justinh: | infact I'd probably prefer it |
| [11:02:17] | Daviey: | y? |
| [11:02:30] | justinh: | control |
| [11:02:39] | siXy: | directhex|work: got a SS of leafers-wide? |
| [11:03:43] | justinh: | got a sickbag ready? |
| [11:04:08] | justinh: | actually the site's down |
| [11:04:18] | Daviey: | I've got a urinal handy, (bag with sponge) |
| [11:04:45] | justinh: | siXy: used to live at http://cscl.alasu.edu/MYTHTV/ |
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| [11:05:08] | siXy: | justinh: yeah i tired that but its dead |
| [11:05:16] | justinh: | GOOD |
| [11:05:29] | siXy: | heh :) i take it you don't like it |
| [11:05:59] | justinh: | there's stuff I don't like, and then there's stuff that should never even have seen the light of day |
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| [11:06:34] | justinh: | I don't like G.A.N.T or mythcenter (etc) but that doesn't mean I'd want them erased from existence |
| [11:07:52] | justinh: | can't say the same for my own output though |
| [11:13:25] | justinh: | come to think of it I used to have a screenshot of leafers-wide at home. I distinctly remember deleting it |
| [11:15:57] | siXy: | yeah there was a linky o your site that was dead also |
| [11:17:52] | justinh: | nothing is forever, ever |
| [11:18:12] | siXy: | esp on your site :D |
| [11:18:19] | justinh: | yeah |
| [11:18:48] | Daviey: | justinh: _all_ of your themes are better than G.A.N.T |
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| [11:19:02] | justinh: | no they're not |
| [11:19:03] | justinh: | none are |
| [11:19:04] | Daviey: | I really hate G.A.N.T incase anybody guessed |
| [11:19:16] | justinh: | blootube sucks dogs off |
| [11:19:27] | Daviey: | i like blootube-wide |
| [11:19:34] | justinh: | blootube-wide looks like it was drawn by a 5 year old retard |
| [11:20:17] | justinh: | ffs the 'home' icon is from a certain font on a certain OS |
| [11:20:19] | Daviey: | seems appopriate to the mental age of the author then :D |
| [11:20:32] | Floppe: | well that 5 year old retard can do better then me =P |
| [11:21:02] | justinh: | and don't anybody get the wrong impression here. I'm NOT fishing for compliments. I can't fecking stand to look at it |
| [11:23:22] | Daviey: | blootube isn't one of the greats, but blootube-wide i like |
| [11:23:43] | Daviey: | shame it requires 1Gb of ram to use tho :) |
| [11:23:58] | justinh: | you mustn't have seen many of the watermarks then, that's all I can say |
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| [12:35:28] | toad_: | ugh, has it finished? |
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| [12:35:38] | toad_: | i think so... |
| [12:35:45] | toad_: | apologies for saying it three times |
| [12:35:48] | toad_: | how do i get the backend to transcode at a priority less than 7? "CPU usage" doesn't seem to make any difference, and if I set the command to "nice -n 15 mythtranscode" then it doesn't transcode at all |
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| [13:08:56] | justinh: | I think I'll just make glass-wide GPL & adapt it to work with svn & to hell with the others |
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| [13:11:36] | justinh: | not a happy bunny. The R.I. xmas lectures aren't going to record. And why because? ducking bastard soaps |
| [13:12:45] | anykey_: | When I enable 'unencrypted channels only', does it skip channels that are encrypted but can be decrypted by the CAM? |
| [13:14:30] | justinh: | probably |
| [13:14:41] | anykey_: | seems to do so yes |
| [13:14:48] | justinh: | hehehe Eastenders isn't going to record. WAF--- but I can live with that |
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| [13:18:09] | BULLE: | justinh: i tend to claim its divine intervention when stuff doesnt get recorded |
| [13:24:31] | justinh: | mythtaste (tm) |
| [13:31:31] | justinh: | hmmm glass-wide doesn't look so bad with the background of blootube-wide |
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| [13:52:05] | anykey_: | Is there a way to 'force' an EIT scan? |
| [13:56:09] | justinh: | nope. you get what you get |
| [13:56:09] | anykey_: | hm, seems myth didn't scan all the channels for EIT, at least I only have 227 events for 300 channels |
| [13:56:09] | anykey_: | (3 channels with +5 days guide data, rest empty) |
| [13:56:09] | justinh: | how many of those channels have 'useonairguide' set hmm? |
| [13:56:09] | anykey_: | all of them |
| [13:56:09] | anykey_: | but I have to be a bit more patient I think, they're filling up now |
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| [13:58:21] | justinh: | patience? in a user of mythtv? now you're having a laugh :P |
| [13:58:28] | anykey_: | hehehe |
| [13:58:58] | siXy: | i might try the neon background with glass when i get home |
| [13:59:02] | Floppe: | it took me several days to get complete EIT |
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| [14:27:25] | justinh: | hmmm something went wrong transcoding a Michel Gondry White Stripes video. Meg & Jack look like frickin lego |
| [14:28:02] | siXy: | how much like lego? |
| [14:28:14] | justinh: | loads like lego |
| [14:28:22] | siXy: | there was a fantastic mony python holy grail section in lego that looked amazing |
| [14:28:23] | justinh: | oh wait. they ARE lego. :D |
| [14:29:12] | siXy: | :D |
| [14:29:15] | justinh: | I'll get me coat. it wasn't the White Stripes after all |
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| [14:30:41] | justinh: | oh wait yes it was. duh. damnit I need to finish work for the year |
| [14:30:55] | pat_: | oh well, that's a 31st birthday party done |
| [14:31:06] | pat_: | not quite drunk as a lord |
| [14:31:10] | pat_: | but near enough |
| [14:31:21] | justinh: | is it considered rude not to sign a leaving card for somebody you'r not sad to see leave? |
| [14:31:45] | pat_: | justinh: did you and your missus have a nice time with the wine I gave you money to buy? |
| [14:32:03] | justinh: | aye thanks. that was ages ago |
| [14:32:20] | pat_: | justinh: just write "best wishes" and leave it at that |
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| [14:32:36] | justinh: | bit late for that now :) |
| [14:32:48] | pat_: | that's what I do |
| [14:33:01] | pat_: | nobody ever reads those cards in the future anyway |
| [14:33:08] | pat_: | they're too glad to be leaving |
| [14:33:21] | justinh: | decided to stop being fake at work :) |
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| [14:34:10] | justinh: | heh last one I signed was "you lucky bastard. when can I join you?" |
| [14:34:16] | pat_: | ever heard of "tiger" beer? |
| [14:34:33] | jduggan: | hah |
| [14:34:36] | justinh: | yeah. essential accompaniment to a curry night out |
| [14:34:43] | jduggan: | the dude that owns L1 NUX number plate |
| [14:34:45] | jduggan: | is in our datacenter |
| [14:34:47] | jduggan: | right now |
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| [14:35:17] | pat_: | hmm, a 6-pack of it in the esky after everyone left |
| [14:35:27] | justinh: | the BOFH would suggest a lift power failure |
| [14:35:55] | justinh: | or at leasta halon gas release & the doors inexplicably blocked with filing cabinets |
| [14:45:01] | pat_: | oh well, one down, 5 to go |
| [14:49:54] | ** justinh wonders what Bruce Springsteens 'girl in the summer clothes' would sound like at 45RPM ** | |
| [14:50:11] | pat_: | scratchy at a guess |
| [14:50:40] | justinh: | sounds like it's being played at 33 when it should be 45 :P |
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| [14:53:04] | elkin: | hi, I have been building SVN based RPMs for opensuse for a few days an have noticed, that using mythweb (browsing to show all recordings) the mythbackend gets stuck generating thumbnails and after a while starts using 100% CPU. Ony restarting the backend fixes the problem. does someone have the same problem or even a solution? |
| [14:53:06] | Code-rr: | Can some one please direct me to an FFMPEG script to do MPEG to XVID? |
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| [14:53:32] | nwidger: | will the in-depth scan in mythgames still work in the roms are zipped? |
| [14:53:35] | elkin: | Code-rr: search on google for pdatranscode.pl |
| [14:53:55] | justinh: | ffmpeg -i $somefile -acodec mp3 -b $bitrate -vcodec xvid -b $bitrate – just a guess |
| [14:54:18] | Code-rr: | elkin: figures when i was tryin go to a PDA XVID i got a script to do a 2 pass xvid.. now when im looking for a 2 pass xvid i get a pda script...... im so lucky :-P |
| [14:54:25] | Code-rr: | elkin: much appreciated |
| [14:55:06] | justinh: | hmm another thing on a remote outpost of the interwebs |
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| [14:55:19] | elkin: | Code-rr: I use it as a userjob to transcode to my t-mobile mda |
| [14:55:45] | Code-rr: | elkin: yeh i am trying to get my HTC to play but the audio is out of sync.. and its not the movie.... |
| [14:56:03] | justinh: | jesus who was the wizard who put advice in the wiki page to force the user job script into the database manually? |
| [14:56:32] | Code-rr: | lOl i noticed that too.. |
| [14:56:37] | justinh: | BAD user! |
| [14:56:55] | Code-rr: | "# manual SQL queries(from Jeff V) |
| [14:56:58] | elkin: | I have had a lot of luck and using tcpmp |
| [14:56:59] | pat_: | tiger beer got better after the first one |
| [14:57:02] | GreyFoxx: | nwid: Yes, assuming youhave the romdb data imported into your database |
| [14:57:05] | pat_: | suddenly |
| [14:57:19] | justinh: | christ somebody removed my edit where I said it wasn't necessarily a good idea |
| [14:57:20] | GreyFoxx: | the indepth one calculates crc's (and looks in zip files) and tries to match them to romdb info |
| [14:57:20] | Code-rr: | elkin: thats the only thing that will play it... |
| [14:57:24] | justinh: | rucking fetard |
| [14:57:27] | GreyFoxx: | the regular scan just pops filenames in there |
| [14:57:27] | Code-rr: | elkin: but the adio is off... |
| [14:57:43] | GreyFoxx: | so indepth will take longer to complete depending on number of games |
| [14:57:45] | elkin: | Code-rr: do you have all current codex? |
| [14:58:07] | Code-rr: | elkin: yeh i think its just the slow processor of the htc.. |
| [14:58:32] | Code-rr: | anyway any one know wher ei cna find a 2 pass xvid example with ffmpeg |
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| [14:59:04] | justinh: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Ipod_export – just edit the thing to make it 2 pass |
| [14:59:33] | Code-rr: | i wanted something more high quality then ipod :-P its for DVD Player |
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| [14:59:44] | justinh: | just read the damn code |
| [14:59:50] | Code-rr: | reading reading.. |
| [15:00:02] | Code-rr: | "$bitrate = '96'; |
| [15:00:10] | Code-rr: | whats a good bitrate anyway |
| [15:01:19] | justinh: | for sdtv xvid about 700kbits |
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| [15:01:38] | Code-rr: | what about for audio |
| [15:01:47] | elkin: | Code-rr: it depends on the resolution of the file |
| [15:01:49] | justinh: | 128k is alright |
| [15:02:10] | Code-rr: | so this look ok then |
| [15:02:10] | Code-rr: | nice -n19 ffmpeg -i "$1" -vcodec xvid -b 300 -qmin 3 -qmax 5 -bufsize 4096 -g 300 -acodec aac -ab 128 -s 700 '$2' |
| [15:02:21] | Code-rr: | dam wat was the code to sync the audio |
| [15:02:24] | ** Code-rr searchs man ** | |
| [15:02:42] | ** Code-rr finds -async 1 ** | |
| [15:02:52] | justinh: | never seen any audio sync problems with my script |
| [15:03:14] | Code-rr: | justinh: im using a DVB stream so its not always perfect :-S |
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| [15:03:20] | justinh: | so am I |
| [15:04:24] | justinh: | look at nuvexport too |
| [15:04:56] | Code-rr: | does nuvexport do dvb mpeg streams? or just the nuv format |
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| [15:07:30] | Code-rr: | whats the res of ntcs again? |
| [15:08:11] | ddavies: | Hi! I'd like to install just the database and the schedules direct downloading program parts of myth on ubuntu. What are the minimum set of packages to download? Thanks! |
| [15:09:22] | ddavies: | er, s/download/install/ |
| [15:09:50] | siXy: | the database is just mysql |
| [15:10:14] | siXy: | for the rest, download the source, and (try to) compile the bits you want |
| [15:10:15] | ddavies: | siXy, yeah but I need the schema |
| [15:10:27] | siXy: | ddavies: ah thats in the source. |
| [15:10:45] | ddavies: | siXy: no ubuntu package I can apt-get? |
| [15:11:03] | siXy: | not if you don't actually want to install mythtv, no |
| [15:11:22] | Code-rr: | does DVB interlace? |
| [15:11:31] | ddavies: | siXy: thanks, I think I'll just install everything then, it's not such a big deal. |
| [15:11:36] | anykey_: | ddavies: what do you want to do when it's finished? |
| [15:11:56] | siXy: | Code-rr: depends how it is broadcast. but yes, usually |
| [15:12:08] | ddavies: | anykey_: I have a python program that emails me to remind me/my family to remind about favorite shows. |
| [15:12:13] | elkin: | resolutions: http://www.strata.com/support/3dmanual/ch13/ch13_7.html |
| [15:12:27] | ddavies: | anykey_: but you quickly realize you want a DB |
| [15:12:45] | Code-rr: | my DVB recording is 528x480, |
| [15:12:58] | Code-rr: | should i resize it to 648 x 486 |
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| [15:13:23] | elkin: | no, to the size of your display on the htc |
| [15:13:33] | justinh: | htc? |
| [15:13:49] | Code-rr: | elkin: i mean a TV |
| [15:13:54] | Code-rr: | SDTV |
| [15:14:06] | anykey_: | ddavies: well, the SD grabber is available outside of mythtv too, I think |
| [15:14:09] | elkin: | mine is 320x240 |
| [15:14:16] | justinh: | just plop it out at 320x240 xvid |
| [15:14:25] | Code-rr: | justinh: for TV? |
| [15:14:26] | justinh: | it's xvid. it'll look shit no matter what |
| [15:14:40] | elkin: | justin is right |
| [15:14:56] | ddavies: | anykey_: Yeah, I've got that. I could write a cron script to automate that, but I know Myth has already done it so I may as well use that. |
| [15:15:03] | elkin: | xvid is nice on a smartphone |
| [15:15:24] | Code-rr: | i just wanna burn 10 episodes onn a dvd.. instead of r3 |
| [15:15:27] | elkin: | if you are watching on a tv why not leave it as DVB |
| [15:15:44] | justinh: | I've seen 5-pass xvid & it's still block in places, especially landscape/sky/water shots |
| [15:15:54] | Code-rr: | elkin: i need to move it... |
| [15:16:00] | Code-rr: | Input #0, mpegts, from '1626_20071126000000.mpg': |
| [15:16:00] | Code-rr: | Duration: 00:29:56.1, start: 16062.917256, bitrate: 2384 kb/s |
| [15:16:00] | Code-rr: | Stream #0.0[0x1922]: Video: mpeg2video, yuv420p, 528x480, 4191 kb/s, 29.97 fps(r) |
| [15:16:00] | Code-rr: | Stream #0.1[0x1923]: Audio: mp2, 48000 Hz, stereo, 192 kb/s |
| [15:16:00] | Code-rr: | Incorrect frame size |
| [15:16:02] | Code-rr: | grrrrr |
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| [15:16:08] | justinh: | awww god bless the file squirrels |
| [15:16:24] | vr00m: | does anyone know if myth's upnp support is compatible with the new xbox360 update? |
| [15:16:40] | GreyFoxx: | It's not yet |
| [15:16:48] | GreyFoxx: | assuming you mean vidoe playback |
| [15:16:51] | vr00m: | yessir |
| [15:16:59] | vr00m: | possibly in the future? |
| [15:17:05] | GreyFoxx: | I powered on my xbox for the first time in months just to test it :) |
| [15:17:10] | justinh: | is upnp ever gonna just work on everything? |
| [15:17:25] | vr00m: | maybe someday, thats what the u says anyway |
| [15:17:40] | GreyFoxx: | I'm hopping to get the video stuff running. Especially now that it plays divx/xvid content |
| [15:17:47] | justinh: | don't mean in mythtv – I mean anything can follow the spec to the letter & still not work with anything else |
| [15:17:47] | vr00m: | so if i point the 360 at my masterbackend, it will just be all brokedick and not work? |
| [15:18:05] | Code-rr: | ok whats wrong with this :-S |
| [15:18:05] | Code-rr: | ffmpeg -i "$1" -vcodec xvid -b 300 -qmin 3 -qmax 5 -bufsize 4096 -g 300 -acodec aac -ab 128 -s 700 -async 50 -aspect 4:3 -s 640:480 '$2' |
| [15:18:13] | GreyFoxx: | wr00: Unfortunately even though it was MS's standard to start with they do not follow spec and it doesn't work with standard upnp servers |
| [15:18:25] | vr00m: | hah that figures |
| [15:18:30] | GreyFoxx: | so custom work arounds need to go in to response one way to xboxb360's and another to everything else |
| [15:18:46] | vr00m: | ive read some opensrc upnp servers work, i guess i could just run one of those point it at my recordings dir |
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| [15:19:11] | nwidger: | does anyone know if the mythtgame in-depth scan feature will work on zipped roms? |
| [15:19:21] | GreyFoxx: | What I need is a day or so off (with no wife and kid) to work on it :) |
| [15:19:31] | GreyFoxx: | nwidger: I answered you earlier |
| [15:19:35] | elkin: | ohh I do have another question: when I run my screen at 16:9 and watch tv and videos everything is OK, if I look at photos, the aspect ratio is broken... why? |
| [15:19:35] | justinh: | like unzipped roms take up that much room? |
| [15:19:44] | nwidger: | GreyFoxx: im sorry, i left the channel and didnt see it |
| [15:19:45] | GreyFoxx: | wn: Yes it will look in them too |
| [15:19:53] | nwidger: | GreyFoxx: any change you can paste it? |
| [15:19:56] | nwidger: | *chance |
| [15:19:57] | GreyFoxx: | but it's only useful if you have th eromdb data in your database |
| [15:20:11] | nwidger: | GreyFoxx: ah okay, thanks :) |
| [15:20:21] | nwidger: | GreyFoxx: i already have the database |
| [15:20:33] | GreyFoxx: | http://www.pastebin.ca/815973 |
| [15:21:03] | squish102: | i moved BE from one machine to another, one didnt have fqdn.. now old recordings dont play on upnp? |
| [15:21:32] | nwidger: | GreyFoxx: great thanks. :) also, how is everything organized after the scan? are games organized by genre or what? |
| [15:21:44] | justinh: | ugh. what is the guy making the pearody-osd thinking? a picture of a tv on the osd background? wth? |
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| [15:22:08] | GreyFoxx: | mythgame has sort by genre, year, favourties, etc |
| [15:22:11] | squish102: | new recordings work with upnp.. i did an update on 'recordings' to make them all the same as new machine (with no fqdn) and now no recordings will play |
| [15:22:31] | nwidger: | GreyFoxx: cool. thanks for answering my questions :) |
| [15:22:43] | GreyFoxx: | nwidger: np |
| [15:22:45] | squish102: | any way to trouble shoot this? |
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| [15:23:06] | justinh: | squish102: you did what? |
| [15:23:23] | justinh: | you changed the hostname in the recorded table? |
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| [15:23:42] | squish102: | only difference i could notice between working new recordings and old recordings was a diff in hostname in recordings table |
| [15:24:11] | squish102: | so i ran an update to make them all the new hostname, and now nothing plays :( |
| [15:24:13] | Code-rr: | any way of playing movies on the WII:-P |
| [15:24:16] | justinh: | so what's the machine's hostname and what's in the 'hostname' column? |
| [15:24:52] | squish102: | the olds were myth.homeip.net, the new machine i moved everything to was 'myth' |
| [15:24:56] | justinh: | if the hostnames don't agree it'll assume the files live on another backend |
| [15:25:26] | squish102: | move the BE from old machine to a newly configured machine, but i must have screwed up hostname setup |
| [15:25:34] | justinh: | yeah you really must've |
| [15:26:09] | squish102: | so the update was to recordigns to change hostname to 'myth' and i have no idea how that hosed everything |
| [15:26:16] | justinh: | no idea eh? |
| [15:26:32] | justinh: | pretty obvious I think |
| [15:26:36] | squish102: | it still works fine in mythfrontend... just not upnp |
| [15:27:31] | justinh: | not played with upnp in a long time |
| [15:27:31] | squish102: | i guess im going back to a backup (hope i made one recently) |
| [15:28:07] | justinh: | one thing I've seen in trunk recently is if the backend is bound to 127.0.0.1 it disabled the upnp server |
| [15:29:23] | squish102: | oh... i think im bound to the actual ip of itself |
| [15:30:00] | squish102: | i wonder if i change hostname to an ip address if it ill work... let me try screw my machine up even more |
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| [15:32:02] | fryfrog: | Can buttons on a remote overlap function between mplayer and myth? |
| [15:32:17] | fryfrog: | ie, lircrc has pause for both mplayer and mythtv on the same key? |
| [15:32:42] | siXy: | fryfrog: yes |
| [15:32:47] | Code-rr: | can DIVX dvd players play XVID |
| [15:33:11] | pat_: | my yum-cha one can |
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| [15:33:25] | siXy: | Code-rr: you mean stand alone ones? wouldn't count on it. software ones probably will, but don't rely upon it |
| [15:33:31] | pat_: | you'd have to try it on a player by player basis |
| [15:33:40] | vr00m: | yeah if they dont say they play xvid, dont count on it |
| [15:33:50] | pat_: | my yum-cha one can play xvid encoded nuv files |
| [15:33:53] | pat_: | yay for me |
| [15:33:58] | vr00m: | gold star! |
| [15:34:07] | Code-rr: | vr00m: can ffmpeg do divx, if so whats the codec :-s |
| [15:34:22] | pat_: | bed |
| [15:34:25] | pat_: | wife is naked |
| [15:34:27] | pat_: | gone |
| [15:34:49] | vr00m: | i always do xvid with ffmpeg, so i dunno, sorry, would have to consult the google |
| [15:35:10] | vr00m: | rub the google 3 times then ask it a question |
| [15:35:23] | ** Code-rr rubbing.. but it not poofing ** | |
| [15:35:34] | vr00m: | oh it'll poof if you keep rubbing it |
| [15:35:39] | vr00m: | mmmm yeah, thats it. right there |
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| [15:46:46] | Code-rr: | any one know what this means |
| [15:46:47] | Code-rr: | [mpeg4 @ 0x63d14a4]rc buffer underflow |
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| [16:36:30] | sphery: | xris: Glad the newer version is working for you. BTW, I've been meaning to mention that I had submitted a ticket under contrib that's probably more appropriately perl/nuvexport: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/3799 |
| [16:37:13] | sphery: | Unfortunately, I can't change it, so I'm mentioning it in case you want to change it so you'll see it when you're working on things. |
| [16:37:47] | xris: | thx, I'll fix it |
| [16:38:34] | sphery: | clever: ddrescue was going great. It recovered most of the data from 2 files (one 1.25GB one 600MB) then on the 3rd, it stopped after about 200MB. Turns out it worked the drive to its death. |
| [16:38:46] | sphery: | clever: Can't even open it with cfdisk, now. |
| [16:39:20] | sphery: | So, I still end up deleting most all of the shows from the areas with bad sectors. |
| [16:39:55] | sphery: | thanks, xris |
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| [17:54:41] | echoSMILE: | what kind of hardware I can use to connect sat receptor in my pc? |
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| [17:57:10] | portahex: | are your channels encrypted, or FTA? |
| [17:57:19] | fryfrog: | svideo, rca, dvb-s, etc, etc |
| [17:57:28] | fryfrog: | hard to tell only knowing "sat" |
| [17:58:02] | symf: | portahex yep, are encrypted |
| [17:58:25] | portahex: | does your prover permit use of a CAM, or are you locked into using their branded set-top box? |
| [17:58:33] | symf: | fryfrog well, that receptor use SCART interface |
| [17:58:45] | portahex: | (i don't know about portugese satellite) |
| [17:59:16] | symf: | me nether |
| [17:59:22] | symf: | :> |
| [17:59:31] | symf: | like |
| [17:59:50] | symf: | i want control channels with mythtv |
| [17:59:57] | symf: | receptor ---> pc ---> tv |
| [17:59:59] | symf: | understand? |
| [18:00:09] | portahex: | if they allow you to use a CAM, then buy a DVB-S card with a CI slot, and bypass your set-top box entirely |
| [18:00:19] | portahex: | if not, you need a hauppauge pvr150, and an IR blaster |
| [18:00:51] | symf: | i has one mini-itx pc |
| [18:00:57] | symf: | i want turn that my media center |
| [18:00:59] | symf: | :> |
| [18:01:09] | symf: | with linux sure |
| [18:01:54] | portahex: | well, what i said still applies |
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| [18:03:13] | ** portahex is in a pub, boozin' ** | |
| [18:03:26] | symf: | let me see that stuff |
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| [18:14:41] | symf: | portahex DVB-S card with a CI slot to read smartcard? |
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| [18:15:53] | portahex: | more or less. a CAM isn't actually a smartcard – it's a card reader, designed to deal with a specific encryption mechanism. for example, the polish sat monopoly polsat will sell a CAM, which slots into any CI-equipped device (dvb-s cards and set-top boxes alike), and you put your subscription card into the CAM |
| [18:17:25] | symf: | i see... some people here, use dreambox receptor with card sharing.. is that you say now |
| [18:17:58] | portahex: | dreamboxes are usually used for pirate or generally unapproved access to things. let me grab an example... |
| [18:20:12] | portahex: | http://www.superfi.co.uk/images/main/topuptvcam-550.JPG is a CAM. it's the same form-factor as PCMCIA. it plugs into a CI slot, and itself contains a slot for a subscription charge |
| [18:20:33] | portahex: | MANY satellite vendors do NOT approve of the use of a CAM, and specifically ban it in their terms & conditions |
| [18:20:42] | portahex: | but it's by a long way the best option if you can do it |
| [18:21:47] | symf: | well.. my pc don't has pcmcia interface |
| [18:21:49] | symf: | :> |
| [18:22:13] | iamlindoro_: | It doesn't go in a PCMCIA slot |
| [18:22:26] | iamlindoro_: | It goes in, as portahex told you, a CI slot on the DVB-S card |
| [18:22:32] | portahex: | it goes in a CI slot. it just shares a form factor |
| [18:22:58] | portahex: | my TV has a CI slot built in, for specifically this purpose |
| [18:23:54] | symf: | ohh i see now |
| [18:23:58] | symf: | like this -> http://www.twinhan.com/Images/products/1034.jpg |
| [18:24:40] | portahex: | yes, like that. dunno if that specific card works in linux, but that's the idea |
| [18:25:02] | symf: | yeah. first let me understand the scene |
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| [18:42:58] | symf: | portahex my pc has svideo, but isn't too bad to see tv/movies wiht some quality ? |
| [18:43:42] | portahex: | it's not ideal. is your tv a modern LCD job, or an old CRT? |
| [18:44:25] | symf: | old CRT :> |
| [18:44:52] | portahex: | then svideo's probably the best you'll manage |
| [18:45:12] | symf: | i will test with my laptop the quality |
| [18:49:25] | symf: | wait has RCA interface too. RCA or sVideo ? |
| [18:49:25] | symf: | http://www.minitechnet.de/jetway_j7f2_1.html |
| [18:49:25] | iamlindoro_: | S-video |
| [18:49:25] | symf: | i has that |
| [18:49:36] | iamlindoro_: | If you have a choice, use S-vid |
| [18:50:00] | symf: | ok. |
| [18:50:25] | iamlindoro_: | That is, unless you can use an actual digital input like DVI or VGA |
| [18:51:21] | symf: | connect VGA to tv? |
| [18:51:35] | iamlindoro_: | Only if you TV has inputs for it |
| [18:51:46] | symf: | let me check |
| [18:52:10] | iamlindoro_: | It probably doesn't if it's an old CRT |
| [18:52:17] | symf: | yeah |
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| [19:26:04] | Hoxzer: | where was the setting for subtitle auto enabling located ? |
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| [19:28:21] | justinh: | tv playback settings I imagine, as with any of the playback settings |
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| [19:31:14] | Anduin: | justinh: You have something playing in the background (no I do not think you are an idiot)? |
| [19:31:26] | Hoxzer: | :( yeah, Didn't see it there |
| [19:31:38] | justinh: | Anduin: yes I do. I opted for 'yes, exit – continue playing' |
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| [19:32:31] | justinh: | is there a key to show it or something – or should it just appear normally? |
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| [19:33:34] | justinh: | this was built yesterday so AFAIK it should be ok |
| [19:34:13] | justinh: | no special build option to enable it? the only thing I can think of I might've missed |
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| [19:38:23] | Hoxzer: | I can't find it :\ .... humm |
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| [19:44:04] | justinh: | Hoxzer: I'm going to post a screenshot in a sec |
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| [19:46:42] | justinh: | http://www.mythtvthemes.co.uk/images/hoxzer.png – learn to use your eyes! |
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| [19:55:37] | phiwum: | Hey ho. I'm having trouble with my direcTV D12–300 tuner. Anyone got one of them? |
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| [19:56:42] | phiwum: | Or is anyone familiar with the directv3.pl script? |
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| [20:10:33] | hatlevip: | anyone have any experience setting up hdhomerun with qam? |
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| [20:27:58] | momelod: | greetings channel |
| [20:28:42] | momelod: | when im watching livetv on my mythbox, and i hit Esc my xserver crashes.. |
| [20:29:22] | momelod: | what could be causing that? |
| [20:31:03] | jams: | momelod- bum video drivers is one cause |
| [20:31:12] | jams: | but what does the frontend log say? |
| [20:31:20] | jams: | or the X log |
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| [20:33:36] | momelod: | im using the nvidia drivers, everything seems fine with it. I can watch tv and recordings using the driver.. just when i hit Esc i get the crash |
| [20:34:23] | momelod: | i dont have access to the logs atm, but i was hoping some1 could give me some ideas about what might cause this |
| [20:35:23] | justinh: | the logs are more than just there for completeness |
| [20:35:32] | iamlindoro_: | momelod, not a chance without logs |
| [20:35:46] | momelod: | k, ill go through them when i get home |
| [20:36:02] | jams: | last time i saw that it's because the opengl install was messed up. |
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| [20:46:12] | justinh: | hmm the miniplayer doesn't like transparency much |
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| [20:52:07] | HazzaUK: | Hello, does anyone know if it is possible to power a soundgraph imon from a 4 pin molex? |
| [20:52:56] | iamlindoro_: | HazzaUK, how is yours powered currently? |
| [20:53:22] | justinh: | shouldn't it be powered from USB anyway? |
| [20:53:46] | iamlindoro_: | That's what I was thinking... I've set one up but it's been forever.. I recalled it being USB powered |
| [20:53:51] | HazzaUK: | well, standard is to use the 5V and 5V standby straight from the power supply |
| [20:54:05] | HazzaUK: | the USB does not seem to power it |
| [20:54:18] | justinh: | what does the manual say? |
| [20:55:00] | HazzaUK: | I don't have a manual, it came with a case. But I'll search for one |
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| [20:55:18] | justinh: | at a guess I'd say that if you powered it from a HDD/floppy connector it wouldn't be able to turn the box on from the remote |
| [20:55:35] | HazzaUK: | not too worried about that |
| [20:55:42] | HazzaUK: | I'll have a go |
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| [20:56:13] | justinh: | http://www.soundgraph.com/Common/filedownLoad . . . flag=support maybe |
| [20:57:10] | fysa: | hazzauk, check your motherboard jumpers |
| [20:58:43] | justinh: | I've often considered putting a VFD in my case but it'd involve a pretty heavy mod – plus I'm not convinced it'll add much |
| [20:58:56] | HazzaUK: | ir included |
| [20:59:06] | HazzaUK: | I don't use the VFD |
| [20:59:43] | justinh: | my ir receiver is very inconspicuous :) |
| [20:59:46] | HazzaUK: | problem is that I have an external power supply |
| [20:59:55] | justinh: | ah |
| [21:00:13] | justinh: | an external brick supplying power to an internal converter? |
| [21:00:54] | HazzaUK: | no, all outside in to a din plug |
| [21:00:55] | justinh: | just looked at that manual – should cover what you need. I'm appalled you didn't get one with the case! |
| [21:01:21] | justinh: | you're kidding! be careful |
| [21:01:32] | HazzaUK: | :) |
| [21:01:40] | HazzaUK: | I'm always careful |
| [21:01:41] | justinh: | is that something you've done? |
| [21:01:57] | justinh: | just asking cos the current carrying limit of DIN plugs is pretty lame |
| [21:02:05] | justinh: | usually about 2A per pin |
| [21:02:54] | justinh: | I know this cos the company I work for ran into problems when the purchasing dept decided to switch connectors on us for cost savings |
| [21:03:00] | HazzaUK: | no, its a commell lv 677 |
| [21:03:13] | HazzaUK: | comes as standard |
| [21:03:26] | justinh: | uhh ok then, I suppose |
| [21:03:53] | justinh: | I'd go with tapping 5V from a disk power connector. that's the _red_ wire ;) |
| [21:04:40] | HazzaUK: | yep, I've tried. doesn't seem to work :( Just trying to find out what the standby connector is doing |
| [21:04:43] | iamlindoro_: | THAT'S what my iMon had... did exactly that, with a disk-power passthrough, and tapped off of that |
| [21:05:01] | HazzaUK: | excellent |
| [21:05:56] | HazzaUK: | iamlindoro_: so all works? what did you do with the standby (purple) |
| [21:06:16] | iamlindoro_: | HazzaUK, was built-in, I just used it as supplied |
| [21:06:24] | iamlindoro_: | This was on an Antec case |
| [21:06:31] | HazzaUK: | hmmm |
| [21:06:33] | justinh: | the standby power wire is probably still needed |
| [21:06:52] | justinh: | you could more than likely just hook that to the +5V wire & be ok |
| [21:07:03] | HazzaUK: | I hope so |
| [21:07:23] | squish102: | is there a script to validate the mysql info for mythtv? |
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| [21:07:31] | iamlindoro_: | mksyqlcheck |
| [21:07:35] | iamlindoro_: | er mysqlcheck |
| [21:07:36] | justinh: | +5VSB prolly powers the micro on the display, HazzaUK |
| [21:07:38] | HazzaUK: | iamlindoro_: can you see how yours is hooked up? |
| [21:07:45] | squish102: | thanks iamlindoro_ |
| [21:07:52] | iamlindoro_: | HazzaUK, It's my folk's box, I'm seldom over there |
| [21:08:01] | iamlindoro_: | Sorry :( |
| [21:08:01] | HazzaUK: | right, I'll get the solder out |
| [21:08:03] | HazzaUK: | :) |
| [21:08:09] | HazzaUK: | no prob |
| [21:08:14] | justinh: | HazzaUK: so I gather your board has the DIN socket on the board & there's no hint of an ATX connector anywhere |
| [21:08:15] | iamlindoro_: | I would be happy to were it on-hand, though |
| [21:08:59] | justinh: | I'm chomping at the bit to swap my e-pee-aye-ay board out this weekend. can't wait! |
| [21:09:30] | justinh: | let the sucker.. er I mean person who buys it on ebay have fun with it. |
| [21:09:53] | HazzaUK: | justinh: there is the grave of an ATX connector. Don't know whether it still has guts though |
| [21:10:02] | HazzaUK: | and dont want to touch it really |
| [21:10:11] | justinh: | nah I wouldnae |
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| [21:16:25] | Dibblah: | Bugger. Bought a 26" LCD for £40. |
| [21:16:32] | Dibblah: | ... Sold as "faulty". |
| [21:16:54] | Dibblah: | (Picture breaks up, then speakers whine). |
| [21:17:08] | Dibblah: | Thought – Great – Capacitors in the PSU busted. |
| [21:17:33] | justinh: | memory fault on the framestore |
| [21:17:36] | Dibblah: | Arrives, unpack, plug in and test. Symptoms as described. |
| [21:18:04] | Dibblah: | Change the input from SCART2 to _anything_ else, symptoms disappear. |
| [21:18:36] | Dibblah: | £200 of LCD for £40 with an absolutely minor fault :) |
| [21:18:56] | iamlindoro_: | Nice |
| [21:19:42] | Dibblah: | Odd fault, though. |
| [21:19:55] | Dibblah: | And odd res. 1366x768 or something like that. |
| [21:20:33] | justinh: | nighswan :) |
| [21:21:12] | portahex: | Dibblah, 99% of <37" lcd tvs are that res |
| [21:21:18] | iamlindoro_: | I had a Westinghouse that did that too, I believe |
| [21:22:41] | portahex: | Dibblah, grounding issues of some kind on scart2? |
| [21:23:02] | Dibblah: | Too violent for grounding. |
| [21:24:13] | portahex: | well, dump scart like the relic it is, and move to hdmi :) |
| [21:25:33] | Dibblah: | No HDMI input, which is confusing. |
| [21:25:37] | Dibblah: | Has DVI. |
| [21:25:46] | Dibblah: | But the manual shows a HDMI port. |
| [21:25:49] | iamlindoro_: | Just as good... better even :) |
| [21:26:00] | Dibblah: | Or, exactly the same. |
| [21:26:02] | portahex: | iamlindoro, not better |
| [21:26:05] | Dibblah: | Apart from Audio. |
| [21:26:08] | justinh: | who uses the built-in speakers on panels anyway? bet they're all tinny as f. |
| [21:26:10] | iamlindoro_: | better in my opinion |
| [21:26:26] | justinh: | no room for the built-in sub my telly has that's fer sure |
| [21:26:28] | portahex: | iamlindoro, your opinion is wrong |
| [21:26:53] | justinh: | DVI still supports HDCP, so the only thing to tell it apart from HDMI is the lack of audio |
| [21:27:02] | iamlindoro_: | partahex, don't be a jerk, HDMI is no better than DVI if you output your audio via optical anyway |
| [21:27:16] | iamlindoro_: | and save you a bit of cash on cables if you stick with DVI |
| [21:27:22] | justinh: | ? |
| [21:27:28] | justinh: | depends where you buy the cables :P |
| [21:27:30] | justinh: | innit |
| [21:28:05] | iamlindoro_: | Since my cable runs 30ish feet between the system and the projector, DVI was MUCH better (cheaper for identical quality) in my case |
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| [21:28:32] | justinh: | HDMI cables are silly cheap now if you know where to buy |
| [21:29:30] | justinh: | dvi plugs are more tricky to poke through holes though |
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| [21:30:00] | iamlindoro_: | Wasn't too terrible, but yes, they're a honkin' connector. |
| [21:32:55] | iamlindoro_: | Also not going to yank out when the dog decides to sniff at them |
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| [21:35:12] | black_Nightmare_: | hey |
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| [21:39:53] | justinh: | iamlindoro_: a small ground loop potential might put a stop to the sniffing :P |
| [21:40:00] | iamlindoro_: | And the dog |
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| [21:40:19] | iamlindoro_: | and the feedings and cleanings for that matter |
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| [21:51:21] | black_Nightmare_: | any of you know about these creative sb live cards with the front bay thinge? |
| [21:51:31] | portahex: | yes |
| [21:51:37] | justinh: | other than they're a waste of your hard-earned? |
| [21:51:55] | portahex: | the connector is proprietary, no you can't hack normal connectors onto one |
| [21:52:06] | justinh: | if you're serious about audio quality, don't waste cash on DSPs you'll never use |
| [21:52:33] | ** justinh hacked a digital in & out onto his SBLive! Value a good while back ** | |
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| [21:52:56] | justinh: | 2 IDE cables had to give the ultimate sacrifice for that mod |
| [21:53:04] | black_Nightmare_: | portahex....ah so not possible to just wire your own front bay thinge..have to use creative's or (if it didn't come with the card or something) just forgo it? |
| [21:53:21] | justinh: | you used to be able to get them separately IIRC |
| [21:53:24] | portahex: | correct |
| [21:53:29] | black_Nightmare_: | thanks |
| [21:53:33] | black_Nightmare_: | thats what I was just wondering about |
| [21:55:19] | justinh: | Hoxzer: so did you find the option eventually then? :P |
| [21:55:56] | black_Nightmare_: | justinh....yeah I don't even see what the Live cards wo/bay offer over an older sb16 at all but just had to ask out of curiousity about the header on card nevertheless |
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| [21:56:15] | black_Nightmare_: | south recycler has a good stack of them .. not sure if there's other creative models too...didn't quite dug into the bin to check |
| [21:56:40] | ** Dibblah hacked a digital video output onto his Sky box a few years ago. ** | |
| [21:56:55] | Dibblah: | (PDI output, essentially) |
| [21:56:59] | justinh: | actually I was amazed how good my new motherboard's onboard audio is. very very quiet compared to the eee-poo-aye-ay |
| [21:57:16] | justinh: | Dibblah: nice. into one of them fancy SDI cards? |
| [21:57:23] | Dibblah: | Recorded with a very nasty hack to a BT848 card. |
| [21:57:29] | Dibblah: | No. _P_DI. |
| [21:57:37] | Dibblah: | 8 bits + clock. |
| [21:57:39] | justinh: | parallel? |
| [21:57:41] | justinh: | oof |
| [21:57:49] | justinh: | you were fond of a treat |
| [21:58:13] | Dibblah: | Treat? |
| [21:58:17] | Dibblah: | Challenge :) |
| [21:58:25] | black_Nightmare_: | heh well only thing onboard I even have is two usb1.1 so ... well yeah my dependancy on a good audio card is....you get the picture |
| [21:58:29] | justinh: | uncompressed digital video onto the PCI bus.. woof |
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| [21:58:58] | Dibblah: | It seemed like a good idea at the time ;) |
| [21:59:09] | justinh: | for general TV we use analogue (or rather she does). for movies, DVD & good shows I turn the amp on & go digickle |
| [22:04:11] | black_Nightmare_: | hmm well sb Live's aside... |
| [22:04:30] | black_Nightmare_: | are 3com nic cards always good or there's certain ranges to look for ratherly? |
| [22:04:42] | portahex: | the old 905 is well regarded for 10/100 |
| [22:05:02] | black_Nightmare_: | I didn't bother looking at them but could recognize the pile by their green+yellow mixed colours pcb surface |
| [22:05:16] | black_Nightmare_: | (so don't know what series they might be) |
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| [22:05:41] | black_Nightmare_: | 905? hm |
| [22:05:53] | black_Nightmare_: | any second number or just that one alone? |
| [22:06:11] | iamlindoro_: | 3c905 |
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| [22:09:45] | black_Nightmare_: | anything in particular with the second 'c' in 3c905c? |
| [22:10:58] | portahex: | it's the final revision |
| [22:11:04] | portahex: | it's an antique, remembner |
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| [22:12:33] | black_Nightmare_: | heh yeah ok |
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| [22:16:46] | Dibblah: | With network cards, they're all pretty similar. |
| [22:16:48] | black_Nightmare_: | if I decide to pick up one anyhow I'll maybe move the old realtek one to shelf as a spare backup in case :) |
| [22:16:51] | Dibblah: | Apart from Realtek. |
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| [22:17:05] | Dibblah: | Which is a steaming pile of cheapness. |
| [22:17:07] | black_Nightmare_: | dibblah...yeah didn't certain realtek numbers have issues with linux and/or cpu load? |
| [22:17:37] | Dibblah: | Laughably, D-Link does a network card. Big D-Link logo on the chip. |
| [22:17:38] | black_Nightmare_: | at least if I recall right most of the 8xxx ones aren't bad nevertheless (I see a lot of 8139's useage too) |
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| [22:17:56] | Dibblah: | Really, though, it's a Realtek chip. |
| [22:18:06] | Dibblah: | ... They just branded it. |
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| [22:18:27] | ** Dibblah likes Marvel. ** | |
| [22:18:42] | black_Nightmare_: | me.....just a 8029(AS) for as long as I can even remember (its the only original card with the system thats still left in there...video and audio both got replaced quickly) |
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| [22:29:46] | dserban: | hmm is mythtv from debian-multimedia broken in sid? |
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| [23:19:27] | black_Nightmare_: | hmm... |
| [23:19:47] | black_Nightmare_: | just a dumb question anyhow but is there much effect from antenna length and whether its straight or not? |
| [23:20:21] | iamlindoro_: | Depends on what you're receiving with the antenna |
| [23:20:59] | black_Nightmare_: | tv channels ;) |
| [23:21:12] | iamlindoro_: | Radio, you can probably get away with a short, kinked up antenna... OTA TV, length and shape are intimately related to your TV signal |
| [23:21:27] | black_Nightmare_: | ah humm ok |
| [23:22:11] | iamlindoro_: | and length and shape also, of course, affect the directionality |
| [23:22:53] | black_Nightmare_: | hm guess I'll unplug the good booster [for this] and start trying various antennas mounted to piece of scrap wood and see if there's something workable that I'll like as well |
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| [23:23:28] | black_Nightmare_: | kinda want do a custom case and probably could be nice to have a concealled antenna for the times of wanting to use the tv tuner card |
| [23:23:31] | black_Nightmare_: | :p |
| [23:23:36] | iamlindoro_: | some people can get away with cheap Radio Shack antennas... my folks have a $300 12-foot Antenna in their attic from a Spanish Company |
| [23:24:34] | black_Nightmare_: | heh radioshack ones seem to fail a lot of the times in this area (then again its the well-hilly country, go figure) |
| [23:24:47] | black_Nightmare_: | don't have a clue why |
| [23:25:15] | iamlindoro_: | I think truly great antenna reception is an art |
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| [23:25:30] | black_Nightmare_: | heh well...you know what I would actually like? |
| [23:25:31] | iamlindoro_: | I did a lot of reading on it a few years ago when I set my folks up, but I can't even remember the antenna brand at this point |
| [23:26:06] | black_Nightmare_: | to know of a *good* circuit for a 20–30dBA booster for it seem that the one I got somehow keeps blowing out its power a bit too frequently |
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| [23:26:44] | black_Nightmare_: | at least the 15dBA one (which almost gets turned on all the times outside sunny days even if not quite always needed) seem to work nonstop so far |
| [23:27:14] | black_Nightmare_: | hm...afk for supper :/ |
| [23:30:07] | iamlindoro_: | http://www.hdtvantennalabs.com/ for good reviews if you're looking to spend more on your antenna than on your video card ;) |
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| [23:31:02] | justinh: | just get a better bit of metal. more gain at source is better than boosting |
| [23:31:21] | justinh: | amps don't just boost good signal ;) |
| [23:34:38] | black_Nightmare_: | back |
| [23:35:10] | black_Nightmare_: | iamlindoro...ha...the card is going to be only like $10-$20 :P |
| [23:35:21] | iamlindoro_: | My point |
| [23:35:35] | iamlindoro_: | put some money into it, cheapy! ;) |
| [23:37:57] | ** black_Nightmare_ pokes you anyhow ** | |
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| [23:41:14] | iamlindoro_: | Something like this should get you good signal if there's anything there to get: http://www.amazon.com/Antennas-Direct-91XG-Un . . . &sr=1-13 |
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| [23:42:00] | black_Nightmare_: | hehe....maybe a bit way too big but probably could try copy the same construction design in smaller scale |
| [23:42:26] | iamlindoro_: | Hoooooo boy here we go again |
| [23:43:01] | ** iamlindoro_ imagines black_nightmare_ cobbling a directional antenna together from old hangers and electrical tape ** | |
| [23:43:12] | justinh: | there's a reason antenna elements are certain dimensions |
| [23:43:24] | black_Nightmare_: | hangers? very funny :p |
| [23:43:30] | thomas_: | hi folks, i have a dvb-c card and trying to import channels.conf, but mythtv according to the database seems to do a unfortunately wrong channel search, leading to sometimes channels having lock or not after a new reimport. is there any workaround ? thnx |
| [23:43:31] | justinh: | dipole tuning/matching is one reason |
| [23:45:10] | justinh: | thomas_: you should really be scanning in mythtv-setup and if it's not working, report it as a bug |
| [23:46:37] | ** black_Nightmare_ throws duct tape at iamlindoro ** | |
| [23:46:39] | black_Nightmare_: | ;) |
| [23:46:57] | thomas_: | justinh: you mean full sand (tuned) ? |
| [23:47:22] | black_Nightmare_: | hm remind me I still need to figure about different modems yet as I need one in this thing :/ |
| [23:47:29] | thomas_: | justinh: brrb sand should be scan :) |
| [23:47:33] | justinh: | I mean a full scan yes |
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| [23:47:49] | squish102: | how good is mythtv if i had to take out the jumppoints table.. will it recover |
| [23:48:51] | iamlindoro_: | squish102, just back up your db first, then there's no harm in finding out |
| [23:49:05] | squish102: | im getting a problem like |
| [23:49:54] | squish102: | Duplicate entry 'Reload Theme-mythtv102' |
| [23:50:02] | squish102: | when trying to restore |
| [23:50:20] | thomas_: | justinh: but this one seems not to go above 3% done or do i just have to wait for hours :) |
| [23:50:24] | iamlindoro_: | Are you trying to restore to an empty db, or to an existing one? |
| [23:50:49] | squish102: | im following http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-23.html |
| [23:50:51] | squish102: | empty |
| [23:51:27] | squish102: | but i dumped database,replaced hostname and trying to import |
| [23:52:01] | squish102: | but i dumped database,replaced hostname, recreated database and trying to import |
| [23:52:15] | iamlindoro_: | well don't recreate db, just use the dump |
| [23:52:45] | squish102: | i think in the insert statement i have duplicates than now have the same hostname |
| [23:52:48] | iamlindoro_: | And your backend is stopped, right? |
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| [23:53:01] | squish102: | right |
| [23:53:25] | squish102: | but i messed up moving db from one machine to a new machine with the host name being slightly different |
| [23:54:13] | squish102: | man i have a mess on my hands |
| [23:54:14] | iamlindoro_: | I think the backup/restore info in the wiki is better and more up to date, btw, you might want to look at that instead |
| [23:55:25] | iamlindoro_: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Backup_your_database |
| [23:55:31] | squish102: | thanks |
| [23:55:46] | iamlindoro_: | I've used it verbatim many times without any problems... hopefully this helps a bit |
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