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| [00:00:50] | EnderTheThird: | jduggan: I think that's just for the MySQL DB, not for the user it creates outside of the DB |
| [00:02:02] | cipher_nemo_: | EnderTheThird: what distro do you use? In ubuntu it creates a mythtv group, not a user. It might be different in other distros I assume |
| [00:02:12] | EnderTheThird: | Mythbuntu 7.10 |
| [00:02:28] | cipher_nemo_: | should be a group then |
| [00:04:02] | EnderTheThird: | Hmmm, thanks, but I'll need to check it out later. Gotta work on a presentation now. Thanks for the help everyone. |
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| [00:05:11] | stevenm: | Hello. Upgraded to 0.20.2 and now frontend cannot see backend. IP addresses are set to 192.168.x.x (not 127.0.0.1). Are there some sort of new security features in the new version? Maybe it is binding to the wrong interface? |
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| [00:07:14] | stevenm: | Actually, mythbackend isn't accepting connections at all! Cannot nc to port 6543 on either IP address. Anyone know why it may be> |
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| [00:18:11] | jbird_: | stevenm: firewall? |
| [00:19:02] | cipher_nemo: | When running my backend, its log tells me I never can connect to the MySQL database:QMYSQL3: Unable to connect |
| [00:19:02] | cipher_nemo: | Database error was: |
| [00:19:02] | cipher_nemo: | Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'localhost' (using password: YES) |
| [00:19:02] | cipher_nemo: | Any Ideas? I even went so far as to attempt granting privs with mysql command: grant all privileges on mythconverg.* to mythtv@"localhost" identified by 'mypassword'; |
| [00:20:06] | stevenm: | jbird_, nah.. looks like a deadlock on mythbackend. mysql related. strace reports mutex weirdness |
| [00:20:20] | stevenm: | restarting mysql and mythbackend fixes it.. just really WEIRD |
| [00:20:53] | stevenm: | now new problem- won't see ivtv. YAY! |
| [00:23:09] | adante: | cipher_nemo: um, can you connect using the mysql command line client? |
| [00:25:18] | cipher_nemo: | adante: yup, sure can... with MySQL user root. mythconverg exists, and my current linux user is in the mythtv user group. All of the MythTV config files are set to use mysql user "root" and its password. |
| [00:27:02] | adante: | cipher_nemo: right, can you use the mysql command line client to access mythconverg as user mythtv? |
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| [00:27:25] | adante: | cipher_nemo: right, can you use the mysql command line client to access mythconverg as user mythtv? |
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| [00:28:54] | cipher_nemo: | adante: thx for repeating it :-) Internet issues tonight with an intercom messing with my connection. I can access mysql command line with my current user (not mythtv). The install for ubuntu creates a mythtv user group, but it doesn't look like I have a mythtv user per say unless ubuntu is hiding it from me. |
| [00:29:22] | clever_: | cipher_nemo: grep myth /etc/passwd /etc/group* |
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| [00:30:05] | adante: | cipher_nemo: hm, the unix user accounts are different from the mysql user accounts |
| [00:30:27] | adante: | cipher_nemo: as any user, you should be able to mysql -umythtv -p<password> mythconverg; |
| [00:30:45] | adante: | try that and see if it spits back an error |
| [00:31:03] | cipher_nemo: | ok, will try it... |
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| [00:31:17] | clever_: | (if you dont give a -u to mysql it will default to your current username) |
| [00:31:24] | clever_: | (or the one set in the config) |
| [00:31:40] | mzb: | cipher_nemo: I think you will find that ubuntu will add your normal user to the mythtv group |
| [00:31:48] | cipher_nemo: | it did |
| [00:32:32] | mzb: | you need to ensure that the ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt file *and* the /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt have the same password |
| [00:32:36] | clever_: | mzb: when i installed the package it did nearly everything(made mysqldb and made a mysql.txt with the randomized pw) |
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| [00:33:46] | cipher_nemo: | adante: it looks like only a MySQL user "root" has access to any database. There is no MySQL user mythtv. |
| [00:34:24] | clever_: | select User from mysql.user; |
| [00:34:31] | clever_: | (list all usernames in mysql) |
| [00:35:00] | adante: | okay, well looks like clever_ knows what he is doing so i will hand you off to him :] (i am going to hunt for a pie, I will be back in 15m) |
| [00:35:39] | cipher_nemo: | adante: thx |
| [00:36:06] | cipher_nemo: | clever: mythtv, root, root, debian-sys-maint, mythtv, root reported for that command |
| [00:36:21] | clever_: | cipher_nemo: so mythtv is valid within mysql |
| [00:36:42] | clever_: | select User,Host from user where User='mythtv'; |
| [00:37:00] | clever_: | all names in mysql are limited to a certin host and that should return all mythtv entrys |
| [00:38:17] | cipher_nemo: | clever: ERROR 1146 (42S02): Table 'mythconverg.user' doesn't exist |
| [00:38:25] | clever_: | oops |
| [00:38:30] | clever_: | select User,Host from mysql.user where User='mythtv'; |
| [00:39:22] | cipher_nemo: | mythtv, %; mythtv, localhost |
| [00:39:51] | cipher_nemo: | (user, host) |
| [00:39:53] | clever_: | yep exactly the same as on my end |
| [00:39:56] | clever_: | locate mysql.txt|xargs grep DBPassword |
| [00:40:01] | clever_: | (in the shell not mysql) |
| [00:40:13] | clever_: | that will return all passwords set in mysql.txt(which myth uses) |
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| [00:40:23] | clever_: | try each with mysql -u myth -p |
| [00:41:12] | cipher_nemo: | interesting... the one in .mythtv/mysql.txt is right, but the one in /usr/share/mythtv/mysql.txt is empty |
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| [00:41:30] | cipher_nemo: | shouldn't the user home directory one overwrite others? |
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| [00:41:46] | clever_: | not shure but if you make them all corect it wont matter which overrides which |
| [00:41:54] | cipher_nemo: | true :-) |
| [00:42:16] | cipher_nemo: | even more interesting... the mysql.txt file in /usr/share/mythtv is blank! |
| [00:42:25] | cipher_nemo: | empty file |
| [00:42:30] | clever_: | deleting it should be safe |
| [00:42:36] | clever_: | 1 less thing for it to wrongly use |
| [00:42:37] | cipher_nemo: | sounds good to me |
| [00:42:59] | clever_: | its empty so your not realy going to damage anything |
| [00:43:09] | cipher_nemo: | yup, I removed it now |
| [00:43:20] | cipher_nemo: | trying again after clearing backend log |
| [00:44:52] | cipher_nemo: | ack, I did a backend restart (sudo /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend restart) after clearing the log, and same error in mythbackend.log... |
| [00:45:02] | cipher_nemo: | QMYSQL3: Unable to connect |
| [00:45:02] | cipher_nemo: | Database error was: |
| [00:45:02] | cipher_nemo: | Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'localhost' (using password: YES) |
| [00:45:18] | clever_: | is the password from mysql.txt actualy valid? |
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| [00:45:38] | cipher_nemo: | I remember it is, but I will double check none-the-less |
| [00:46:47] | aschmack: | hi, im trying to build a mythtv setup for the whole house but some of the QAM stations I want to be able to record are encrypted so I was hoping to keep a cable box, but i ran into the problem of not being able to get the HD stream(analog or not) from the cable box to the backend. are there any solutions for this problem? |
| [00:47:56] | cipher_nemo: | clever: ack, the .mythtv/mysql.txt file doesn't exist. Is the "." a link of some sort? When I deleted the other blank file, this one that isn't blank disappeared. Odd. |
| [00:48:20] | clever_: | cipher_nemo: .mythtv/ is a hidden folder(any file starting with . is hidden) |
| [00:48:26] | clever_: | and it exists within your HOME dir |
| [00:48:39] | cipher_nemo: | aschmack: are you using an HD TV tuner card in your MythTV PC backend? |
| [00:49:03] | aschmack: | we were planning on getting the HDhomerun and a PVR-500 |
| [00:49:07] | Mayber: | so if I have a DVB-S card, and get one of those WinTV PVR-350 things with the hardware mpeg2 decoder, I can pipe the stream from the DVB-S card to the PVR card to handle the mpeg-2 decoding? |
| [00:49:44] | cipher_nemo: | clever: whew* |
| [00:49:56] | cipher_nemo: | clever: it was just a typo :-) ... the password is right |
| [00:50:04] | clever_: | cipher_nemo: ah:) |
| [00:50:15] | cipher_nemo: | clever: so the password is right, what can I try next? |
| [00:50:27] | aschmack: | cipher_nemo, but we havent purchased anything yet so it doesnt really matter |
| [00:50:49] | clever_: | cipher_nemo: are all the mysql.txt's valid? |
| [00:50:58] | clever_: | cipher_nemo: and what username is mythbackend running as? |
| [00:51:16] | clever_: | cipher_nemo: ~ is the home dir your logged in as not the one myth runs on |
| [00:51:22] | cipher_nemo: | aschmack: if you use an HD TV tuner card with inputs other than just coaxial cable, you can take that into MythTV |
| [00:51:54] | aschmack: | yeah but i havent found anything with component/hdmi/dvi/vga input |
| [00:52:36] | cipher_nemo: | clever: they are (only one now), except for a mysql.txt.dist which I assume is an original one created by the installer |
| [00:52:52] | clever_: | cipher_nemo: yeah it would ignore mysql.txt.dist |
| [00:53:08] | clever_: | cipher_nemo: run ps aux|grep myth |
| [00:53:20] | clever_: | cipher_nemo: what username is it running as?(root,yours,mythtv)? |
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| [00:54:19] | cipher_nemo: | aschmack: that's all I see too from Hauppauge... the composite and s-video in only :-( |
| [00:54:33] | aschmack: | awe |
| [00:55:14] | cipher_nemo: | clever: it's running on my linux user name |
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| [00:55:31] | aschmack: | hm |
| [00:55:38] | clever_: | cipher_nemo: if you have one in home it needs to be in that usernames home dir |
| [00:55:39] | aschmack: | turns out i might already own a solution |
| [00:55:44] | aschmack: | just have to find it |
| [00:56:03] | cipher_nemo: | aschmack: if you could find a card with inputs for HDMI, DVI, display port, etc, you'd be set |
| [00:56:21] | clever_: | cipher_nemo: for example if its running as xyz it needs to be in xyz's home dir(or one of the global places) |
| [00:56:34] | clever_: | (and xyz needs to be able to read mysql.txt) |
| [00:57:32] | cipher_nemo: | here's the results I get (I semi-understand). The user is "donald" (setting this up as a Christmas gift for my father): |
| [00:57:33] | cipher_nemo: | donald 9582 0.0 0.1 3488 1360 pts/0 S+ 19:44 0:00 nano /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log |
| [00:57:33] | cipher_nemo: | donald 9603 0.0 0.0 2972 748 pts/1 R+ 19:54 0:00 grep myt |
| [00:58:16] | clever_: | dont see myth actualy running at all there(it probly shut itself off when it failed to connect) |
| [00:58:29] | cipher_nemo: | very possibly |
| [00:58:41] | cipher_nemo: | since the front end doesn't see a backend |
| [00:58:51] | clever_: | put a copy of /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend on pastebin.ca |
| [00:59:00] | cipher_nemo: | will do |
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| [01:02:10] | aschmack: | heh ads pyro av link: Component Video |
| [01:02:11] | aschmack: | The Red, Green and Blue component video jacks allow for input/ouput of video |
| [01:02:11] | aschmack: | from a component source. You can also connect a composite synch cable to the |
| [01:02:11] | aschmack: | RCA Video input to allow for composite synch. |
| [01:02:32] | aschmack: | has firewire output |
| [01:02:46] | iamlindoro: | There are *NO* cards with HDMI, DVI, or Component in that are supported in linux |
| [01:03:02] | iamlindoro: | There is currently no means of capturing raw HD video with myth |
| [01:03:25] | clever_: | cipher_nemo: looks like mythbackend runs as mythtv(so you may want mysql.txt at /home/mythtv/.mythtv/mysql.txt) |
| [01:03:37] | cipher_nemo: | hence why it would only be possible if you took it over as an input (which is downgrading it to analog) |
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| [01:03:56] | cipher_nemo: | clever: and I have it there too |
| [01:04:00] | iamlindoro: | by raw i mean uncompressed, btw |
| [01:04:06] | clever_: | cipher_nemo: and is it owned by mythtv? |
| [01:04:26] | iamlindoro: | you can get Mpeg-2 via QAM or ATSC if it's unencrypted, or x.264 in Europe. |
| [01:04:36] | portahex: | and firewire from an STB |
| [01:04:39] | portahex: | in some cases |
| [01:04:43] | iamlindoro: | affirm |
| [01:04:52] | iamlindoro: | but what you are talking about, aschmack, is not possible |
| [01:05:03] | iamlindoro: | you will not be able to capture any HDMI, DVI, or component |
| [01:05:08] | iamlindoro: | sorry |
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| [01:05:26] | stevenm: | Which version of ivtv does mythtv 0.20.2 want? |
| [01:05:29] | aschmack: | with the pyro av link you mean? |
| [01:05:36] | iamlindoro: | With *any* device |
| [01:06:05] | aschmack: | why would this not work |
| [01:06:11] | iamlindoro: | Even if you go buy the world's most expensive HDMI fellate-while-you-wait device, you will be unable to get HD via anything but firewire off the STB, QAM, or OTA |
| [01:06:31] | aschmack: | it goes component from cable box -> av link thing -> dv stream -> computer |
| [01:06:40] | cipher_nemo: | clever: it is owned by the current linux user |
| [01:06:45] | portahex: | aschmack, are you volunteering to write a driver then? |
| [01:06:52] | aschmack: | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_Firewire |
| [01:07:05] | aschmack: | or |
| [01:07:05] | aschmack: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/FireWire |
| [01:07:06] | clever_: | cipher_nemo: so mythbackend may lack acess to read it(sudo chown mythtv /home/mythtv/.mythtv/mysql.txt) |
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| [01:07:29] | iamlindoro: | Hey, buy what you want, man. wtf do I know, I've only been using myth for years |
| [01:08:11] | iamlindoro: | ps, DV = 720x480 |
| [01:09:01] | cipher_nemo: | clever: will have to leave since dinner is here. Yup, it is owned by the user, and if for someone reason it wasn't, it is owned now after I ran your command. Still unable to get mythtv access to mysql |
| [01:09:10] | portahex: | Capture Resolution: |
| [01:09:10] | portahex: | NTSC:720 x 480 @30 frames per second; |
| [01:09:23] | portahex: | sniff sniff, does anyone smell SD? |
| [01:09:30] | ** iamlindoro raises his hand. ** | |
| [01:09:37] | clever_: | cipher_nemo: you could manualy run mythbackend first(sudo -i -u mythtv mythbackend) |
| [01:11:14] | cipher_nemo: | clever: to start or restart the backend, I've been using sudo /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend [restart|start|stop] |
| [01:11:28] | clever_: | cipher_nemo: yeah and something special thats doing may be messing things up |
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| [01:11:45] | clever_: | cipher_nemo: testing it thru a normal startup will show where the problem may be |
| [01:12:13] | cipher_nemo: | clever: sudo: no passwd entry for mythbackend! |
| [01:12:30] | clever_: | cipher_nemo: yeah hmmmm |
| [01:12:50] | clever_: | cipher_nemo: ahh |
| [01:12:52] | cipher_nemo: | clever: that's just mythbackend |
| [01:12:59] | clever_: | cipher_nemo: sudo -i -u mythtv |
| [01:13:00] | cipher_nemo: | clever: for both, it's -sh: Can't open mythbackend |
| [01:13:11] | clever_: | cipher_nemo: then after you give it your pw run mythbackend |
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| [01:13:57] | cipher_nemo: | the -i -u just gives me a $ prompt |
| [01:14:12] | clever_: | cipher_nemo: yeah mythtv isnt setup to be logged into but the $ shell will work |
| [01:14:19] | a1fa: | later |
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| [01:15:19] | cipher_nemo: | clever: anyway, I can't wait much longer since my dinner is here. I'll check back later. Thanks for all of the help, clever! |
| [01:15:23] | clever_: | k |
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| [01:28:44] | stiev3: | I've been searching around, and it appears that my cable company will give me a motorola brand STB with working firewire upon request. would myth be able to tune through that firewire connection? |
| [01:29:07] | xris: | stiev3: that's what I recommended you look into... |
| [01:29:12] | xris: | and yes, mythtv can handle it just fine |
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| [01:33:19] | scrubb2000: | mythtv-setup failed. help! |
| [01:33:33] | kdubya: | YOU failed |
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| [01:34:32] | stiev3: | xris, cool thanks for that, going to try to score a couple of these stb's tomorrow. |
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| [01:38:00] | xris: | stiev3: if you're (very) lucky, you'll get more than broadcast channels.. but at the bare minimum, you should get the same channels you would over QAM |
| [01:38:26] | xris: | scrubb2000: it's generally helpful if you provide a little more info |
| [01:38:41] | scrubb2000: | Well, I'm not sure what failed. |
| [01:38:52] | scrubb2000: | It asks to shut down the mythtvbackend, so I give it the OK. |
| [01:39:15] | scrubb2000: | Then a console window comes up and a bunch of text streams through it, then it exits. |
| [01:39:18] | kdubya: | stiev3, i had to wait a week to get my box with firewire |
| [01:39:40] | kdubya: | i dont think they have many of them |
| [01:40:00] | scrubb2000: | Then a screen comes up and asks for the language, then some info about the database, saying it couldn't connect. |
| [01:40:24] | kdubya: | is mysql running? |
| [01:41:03] | scrubb2000: | mysqld and mysqld_safe are in the task list...so yes? |
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| [01:41:50] | kdubya: | how did you set your system up |
| [01:42:01] | kdubya: | packages, dedicated distro... |
| [01:42:19] | scrubb2000: | it's kubuntu gutsy...I installed myth frontend from adept |
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| [01:43:13] | kdubya: | and you set up a database for myth? |
| [01:43:36] | scrubb2000: | I did what adept told me to do. |
| [01:43:49] | xris: | scrubb2000: usually it tells you that you should — I don't think it will ever try to shut down the backend itself |
| [01:43:51] | stiev3: | I have a local store and a couple of unfortunate people I can hassle into giving them up I think. Although I have no experience with this sort of exchange. Should be fun. |
| [01:44:07] | scrubb2000: | It added me to the mythtv group and restarted my session, but I don't know if I explicitly created one. |
| [01:44:14] | scrubb2000: | I'm not familiar with mysql at all. |
| [01:44:52] | kdubya: | stiev3, you just ask them for the box with firewire and they give you one and if they dont have it they call you when they get it |
| [01:44:59] | kdubya: | nothing really to hassle about either they got it or they dont |
| [01:45:02] | xris: | stiev3: generally you just walk in and make the exchange.. just make sure that the boxes you get have firewire ports on them — people at the branch offices don't tend to know the difference between the boxes, or even what firewire is. |
| [01:45:27] | kdubya: | they knew in austin |
| [01:45:31] | kdubya: | must be a lot of htpc people here |
| [01:45:39] | kdubya: | even though the firewire here is useless |
| [01:46:00] | scrubb2000: | Is there some way to check if the database is set up? |
| [01:46:05] | xris: | kdubya: it's also been over a year since I did my firewire setup.. people may have learned since then |
| [01:46:24] | xris: | scrubb2000: database is probably set up, but if you used the ubuntu packages, they probably set a random password for mythtv. |
| [01:46:43] | xris: | it prints out during the mythtv install, but you may not have seen it if you used a gui installer. look in /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt |
| [01:46:44] | scrubb2000: | They did. And I have it written down. |
| [01:47:00] | xris: | you should be able to plug that into mythtv-setup, then |
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| [01:47:53] | scrubb2000: | that's the gui screen with the blueish colors? |
| [01:48:04] | xris: | yeah |
| [01:48:20] | stevenm: | Hello. Mythweb is causing php to segfault on me. Is this normal? |
| [01:48:47] | scrubb2000: | what about the other fields? (hostname, database, user) |
| [01:49:12] | scrubb2000: | I'm running this all from my desktop PC, no remote anything. |
| [01:49:14] | BULLE: | scrubb2000: yes of course that is normal, that is the way mythweb is supposed to operate! |
| [01:49:20] | BULLE: | oh, wrong user, damn |
| [01:49:22] | BULLE: | sorry |
| [01:49:23] | kdubya: | just put localhost in for the hostname |
| [01:49:23] | xris: | hostname is probably safe to put in localhost.. the other two are "mythtv" |
| [01:49:27] | scrubb2000: | np |
| [01:49:33] | xris: | er, database is "mythconverg" |
| [01:49:42] | kdubya: | and the database name should be in that same mysql.txt |
| [01:49:44] | BULLE: | stevenm: so are you using svn snapshots etc or 0.20.2 ? |
| [01:50:05] | BULLE: | anyway, php segfaulting sounds like a borken php install to me |
| [01:50:21] | ** xris wonders who BULLE is talking to ** | |
| [01:50:35] | xris: | oh, wait, now I see stevenm's question |
| [01:50:50] | ** xris curses spreadsheets for clouding the brain ** | |
| [01:50:59] | stevenm: | BULLE, using 0.20.2. Did the exact same thing last time (0.20 or something?) but then I reinstalled mythweb and PHP due to upgrade and it's back to doing it! |
| [01:51:37] | scrubb2000: | xris: what does mythtv-setup.real do? |
| [01:51:51] | xris: | scrubb2000: not a clue — that's not something normally part of mythtv |
| [01:51:58] | BULLE: | stevenm: sounds like a php install issue to me |
| [01:52:07] | BULLE: | stevenm: the php runtime shouldnt just segfault |
| [01:52:12] | stevenm: | BULLE, on gentoo, just reinstalled. |
| [01:52:16] | scrubb2000: | Oh, wait. That's the X process I think. |
| [01:52:24] | scrubb2000: | or something like that... |
| [01:52:29] | stevenm: | BULLE, that's exactly what I said last time, on #php! |
| [01:52:45] | stevenm: | BULLE, I think we tracked it back to a 'no such file or directory' error or something |
| [01:53:01] | scrubb2000: | xris: I'm concerned about the console window that comes up before the gui when I run mythtv-setup. |
| [01:53:27] | stevenm: | BULLE, somewhere in zend_objects.c |
| [01:53:50] | xris: | scrubb2000: you're not running it from within a console? |
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| [01:54:16] | scrubb2000: | I start it from a console, but it pops up another one. A bunch of text flurries through it, then the gui comes up. |
| [01:54:17] | xris: | it's probably just configured by the distro to auto-run it in a console |
| [01:54:24] | xris: | weird |
| [01:54:47] | scrubb2000: | Is there some way to pause what it's doing so I can see what the text is saying? |
| [01:55:11] | xris: | scroll lock might work |
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| [02:03:00] | scrubb2000: | xris: that was weird. |
| [02:03:21] | scrubb2000: | I managed to copy the output from that console window, but it buggered mythtv and disabled my keyboard. |
| [02:04:25] | scrubb2000: | xris: here's the output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45871/ |
| [02:05:35] | xris: | scrubb2000: looks like whatever tried to set up mythtv failed to add the user/password |
| [02:06:05] | scrubb2000: | xris: can I fix that manually? |
| [02:06:19] | xris: | if you can get into mysql as root, sure |
| [02:06:25] | xris: | mysql -u root -p mythtconverg |
| [02:06:28] | xris: | then type in your password |
| [02:06:44] | xris: | then: GRANT ALL ON mythconverg.* to mythtv@'localhost' identified by 'mythtv'; |
| [02:06:51] | xris: | then fix mysql.txt so that the password is "mythtv" |
| [02:07:02] | scrubb2000: | it says unknown database 'mythconverg' |
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| [02:10:00] | xris: | sounds like the setup script didn't get any of it's stuff done. |
| [02:10:05] | scrubb2000: | *sigh* |
| [02:10:11] | xris: | if you want the easy route, remove mythtv, and reinstall mythtv |
| [02:10:29] | xris: | this happens sometimes if mysql and mythtv are installed at the same time — mythtv goes in before mysql is running, and so the scripts can't create the db, etc. |
| [02:10:42] | scrubb2000: | I wouldn't mind learning what's going on and fixing it, if you don't mind helping me. |
| [02:11:03] | xris: | find a file called mc.sql |
| [02:11:08] | scrubb2000: | k |
| [02:11:13] | xris: | you'll probably need to run updatedb and then use locate |
| [02:11:29] | xris: | then: mysql -u root -p < /path/to/mc.sql |
| [02:11:45] | scrubb2000: | how do I use updatedb? |
| [02:11:49] | xris: | sudo updatedb |
| [02:11:53] | xris: | then let it run |
| [02:11:53] | scrubb2000: | and locate? (sorry) |
| [02:11:57] | xris: | then locate mc.sql |
| [02:12:26] | xris: | the mc.sql file has all of the create/grant stuff built in so you won't need to do anything other than fixing mysql.txt when it's imported. |
| [02:12:56] | scrubb2000: | Ok, ran the mc.sql script. |
| [02:13:15] | xris: | fix the password in mysql.txt |
| [02:13:18] | xris: | and then run mythtv-setup again |
| [02:14:14] | scrubb2000: | which password should it be? The random one from before? |
| [02:16:14] | xris: | hopefully just "mythtv" |
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| [02:17:50] | JohnQ: | Oh Comcast, why must you suck so incredibly hard? |
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| [02:33:31] | jedix: | um |
| [02:33:53] | jedix: | I'm having an issue getting programs to be scheduled to record at the same time on two tuners |
| [02:34:11] | jedix: | is there some sort of scheduling box I need to check to allow this to happen? |
| [02:34:28] | mchou: | gah, cheap ass desk lamp |
| [02:35:14] | mchou: | jedix: why do you explain which programs and which channels..... |
| [02:35:33] | mchou: | s/do/dont |
| [02:36:57] | jedix: | okay |
| [02:37:16] | jedix: | both inputs are the same |
| [02:37:34] | jedix: | as in, they both have the same programming |
| [02:37:39] | mchou: | I dont understand wht these days it's not more economical to use solid state fluorescent ballast rather than a cheap ass transformer...... |
| [02:38:21] | mchou: | jedix: dude, just answer the question. What's the name of the program and what channel? |
| [02:38:30] | mchou: | programs* |
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| [02:38:33] | jedix: | I'm trying to record, lets say.. house at 9:00 on 801 and ncis at 8:00 on 801 |
| [02:38:50] | jedix: | ncis is scheduled to record 3 min past.. |
| [02:38:56] | jedix: | house starts a few min before |
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| [02:38:59] | jedix: | so it's a conflict |
| [02:39:02] | mchou: | ok, now we are getting somewhere |
| [02:39:13] | jedix: | it also happens if it's different channels though |
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| [02:39:35] | mchou: | jedix: you could have saved a lot of typing and blather earlier |
| [02:39:45] | jedix: | huh? |
| [02:39:47] | jedix: | blather? |
| [02:40:19] | jedix: | I also record numbers (on 817) and ghost whispers (on 806) |
| [02:40:30] | mchou: | jedix: http://www.answers.com/blather&r=67 |
| [02:40:31] | jedix: | the same thing.. overlap by a few min |
| [02:41:01] | scrubb2000: | mythfrontend is saying "mythtv is already using all available inputs for the channel you selected" but I haven't selected any channels. |
| [02:41:31] | jedix: | mchou: what have I said that doesn't make sense? |
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| [02:42:00] | mchou: | iirc myth is smart enough about consecutive programming.....and wouldnt mark them as conflicts. |
| [02:42:11] | JohnQP: | Gah. Every time I talk to Comcast, I hate them more. If only there was a viable alternative. :-( |
| [02:42:11] | mchou: | but my memory on this isnt clear |
| [02:42:13] | jedix: | it is marking them as conflicts |
| [02:42:53] | mchou: | jedix: then your settings must be screwed up. |
| [02:42:55] | jedix: | and states that "the following recording will be recorded instead" in the reasons |
| [02:43:03] | jedix: | mchou: yes |
| [02:43:07] | jedix: | and where would this setting be? |
| [02:43:22] | mchou: | under recording options |
| [02:43:30] | mchou: | cut the time overlap off |
| [02:43:40] | mchou: | there is no need for 3 minutes |
| [02:43:46] | jedix: | sigh |
| [02:43:52] | jedix: | even on different channels? |
| [02:44:02] | jedix: | it's only using one device |
| [02:44:20] | mchou: | dude. which part of the explanation dont you grok? |
| [02:44:50] | jedix: | I need a 3 minute overlap |
| [02:44:55] | mchou: | you overlap by 3 minutes, why shouldnt myth mark it as a conflict? |
| [02:45:27] | jedix: | because I have two cards that have the same set of channels |
| [02:45:34] | jedix: | and it is only going to be using one |
| [02:46:12] | xris: | jedix: did you maybe force the recording rule to only record on a specific tuner? |
| [02:46:17] | xris: | and does myth know about the second tuner? |
| [02:46:40] | jedix: | xris: it lists both tuners in the system status |
| [02:46:48] | jedix: | and I haven't forced any recordings ot a tuner |
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| [02:47:12] | JohnQP: | I did? |
| [02:47:17] | JohnQP is now known as JohnQ | |
| [02:47:19] | JohnQ: | Oh |
| [02:47:25] | mchou: | JohnQ: lol |
| [02:47:44] | mchou: | JohnQ: make up your mind who you wanna be |
| [02:47:52] | xris: | jedix: does other stuff record on the second tuner? |
| [02:47:54] | mzb: | how does mytharchive determine audio sync when multiplexing? |
| [02:48:04] | jedix: | xris: not that I can see |
| [02:48:22] | xris: | jedix: make sure that it's actually connected to the listings source (mythtv-setup) |
| [02:48:28] | mchou: | jedix: well, something isnt right with Denmark |
| [02:48:30] | mzb: | I've been recording mpeg2 off dvb, and from observation, audio seems ~ -250ms out |
| [02:49:00] | scrubb2000: | xris: myth seems to be working now, but frontend couldn't open my card to do a channel scan. |
| [02:49:18] | mchou: | mzb: that might not be a myth issue at all |
| [02:49:18] | GreyFoxx: | scrubb2000: You mean mythtv-setup ? |
| [02:49:28] | jedix: | xris: i have both tuners connected to two listing sources, both using the same SD account |
| [02:49:31] | mzb: | so I've used avidemux to correct the offset, and put it back into videos ... when the dvd is created, the audio is out of sync |
| [02:49:42] | GreyFoxx: | scrubb2000: Is the backend running and already has hold of the tuner ? |
| [02:49:43] | jedix: | xris: is this correct? |
| [02:50:14] | xris: | jedix: probably better to connect them to the same listings source if it's the same data |
| [02:50:24] | jedix: | okay |
| [02:50:27] | jedix: | wilco |
| [02:50:38] | xris: | scrubb2000: do the channel scan from within mythtv-setup |
| [02:50:56] | xris: | and make sure that the user mythtbackend runs as has access to the card (which is why many people run the backend as root) |
| [02:51:54] | mzb: | mchou: initially, no ... but mytharchive reintroduces an audio sync problem |
| [02:52:37] | JohnQ: | Are there any *good* solutions to getting HDTV without a STB? The resistance from comcast to my using mythtv is incredible. |
| [02:52:44] | mchou: | mzb: cant help you w/ that. I don't use myth archive |
| [02:53:01] | mchou: | JohnQ: wtf should comcast care about mythtv? |
| [02:53:15] | mchou: | mchou: I have comcast and I use myth |
| [02:53:17] | GreyFoxx: | JohnQ: QAM with a dvb card IF they have it on the wire unencrypted, OTA if it's available in your area, and firewire of a STB are your only real options |
| [02:53:18] | mzb: | I'm trying to get to the stage where I can get reliable output so I can fix a few things in mytharchive |
| [02:53:20] | Tanthrix: | JohnQ: These are your only options http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Recording_Digital_Cable |
| [02:54:24] | mchou: | JohnQ: comcast doesnt even know what myth is (nor should they have to), of course you're encountering resistance since they dont know wtf you're talking about |
| [02:54:26] | JohnQ: | GreyFoxx: Yah, I've been looking into these. |
| [02:54:45] | JohnQ: | mchou: they want to give me a "cablecard" I call that resistance. |
| [02:54:54] | mchou: | JohnQ: lol |
| [02:55:09] | mchou: | JohnQ: be happy that they want to give you a cablecard. |
| [02:55:25] | mchou: | plenty cablecos wont even give those. |
| [02:55:44] | JohnQ: | Theyre just doing everything in their power to piss me off. |
| [02:55:50] | mzb: | mchou: so what DO you use? |
| [02:56:11] | mchou: | mzb: strictly watch and delete kind of guy :) |
| [02:56:17] | mzb: | uhuh |
| [02:56:42] | mchou: | JohnQ: just be thankful you arent a satellite customer :) |
| [02:56:59] | JohnQ: | mchou: if they sucked less than comcast, I would be. |
| [02:57:00] | mchou: | JohnQ: then you'd really be up the creek |
| [02:57:55] | mchou: | JohnQ: Why dont you explain what channels you wish to record with mythtv, right here |
| [02:58:07] | mchou: | so we can understand your dilemma |
| [02:58:36] | JohnQ: | I want to record the discovery channel on my mythtv in HD without a STB. thats pretty much it. |
| [02:58:52] | mchou: | JohnQ: and where do you live? |
| [02:59:04] | JohnQ: | Mountain View, Ca |
| [02:59:12] | aschmack: | does the ati all in wonder work with mythtv |
| [02:59:16] | mchou: | wow, that's close :) |
| [02:59:17] | GreyFoxx: | JohnQ: firewire out of a STB is not an option I assume ? |
| [02:59:57] | aschmack: | hey johnq same problem high-5 |
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| [03:00:10] | mchou: | JohnQ: 1. you need to find out if comcast bcast DiscHD in the clear in Mtn. View |
| [03:00:12] | JohnQ: | GreyFoxx: I understood that comcast was only required to provide thr FTA channels via firewire? |
| [03:00:28] | JohnQ: | aschmack: Crazy isnt it? |
| [03:00:31] | mchou: | JohnQ: if they dont, you're pretty much screwed. |
| [03:00:34] | aschmack: | aye |
| [03:00:48] | GreyFoxx: | JohnQ: that doesn't mean that every region ONLY does the minimum :) |
| [03:00:49] | mchou: | JohnQ: In San Jose DiscoveryHD is in the clear :) |
| [03:01:00] | aschmack: | im looking for cheap 1080i component input to solve my problem |
| [03:01:01] | mchou: | JohnQ: so ask a friend in San Jose |
| [03:01:13] | JohnQ: | mchou: to do what? |
| [03:01:22] | mchou: | to record DiscoveryHD |
| [03:01:25] | JohnQ: | hah |
| [03:01:50] | JohnQ: | if that was an option id just <redacted due to channel rules>.. and watch it on mythvideo. |
| [03:01:52] | mchou: | JohnQ: I see nothing funny in that suggestion |
| [03:02:44] | aschmack: | download it? who cares hes already paying for it |
| [03:02:45] | mchou: | asking a friend to record is not against the law or channel rules last time I checked |
| [03:03:01] | Kernel: | anyone know of any howto's on optimizing mythtv? i remember one but cant seem to find it... |
| [03:03:04] | JohnQ: | mchou: indeed. Its just a huge pain |
| [03:03:21] | Kernel: | stuff like mysql tweaks and things like this |
| [03:03:30] | mchou: | JohnQ: you havent even yet done due diligence..... |
| [03:03:50] | JohnQ: | I wonder if there is a "what's clear and what's not" list by city comewhere. |
| [03:03:52] | mchou: | JohnQ: like I said earlier: 1. you need to find out if comcast bcast DiscHD in the clear in Mtn. View |
| [03:04:04] | mchou: | JohnQ: avsforum.com |
| [03:04:11] | JohnQ: | mchou: from what I have found.. the chances of that re very small. |
| [03:04:13] | GreyFoxx: | JohnQ: avsforum has some |
| [03:04:38] | mchou: | JohnQ: have to wde thru a bunch of posts, but it's pretty definitive |
| [03:04:44] | mchou: | wade* |
| [03:05:17] | JohnQ: | I'll try that. |
| [03:05:24] | mchou: | JohnQ: the real easy way to find out is using a STB whter any channel is in the clear |
| [03:05:31] | mchou: | whether* |
| [03:05:42] | JohnQ: | I have no STB |
| [03:05:55] | mchou: | go over to a friend's place who has a STB |
| [03:06:01] | mchou: | JohnQ: lol |
| [03:06:18] | mchou: | JohnQ: you must be a real loner. Maybe a serial killer :) |
| [03:06:30] | JohnQ: | ... pardon? |
| [03:06:53] | JohnQ: | because I don't have a STB? |
| [03:07:11] | mchou: | JohnQ: no, because you dont understand concept of "friend" |
| [03:07:24] | JohnQ: | o_O |
| [03:07:29] | Tanthrix: | JohnQ: mchou is a troll. Don't waste your breath. |
| [03:07:40] | JohnQ: | k |
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| [03:08:06] | mzb: | problem is probably related to pre-existing temp files, retrying |
| [03:08:41] | Tanthrix: | JohnQ: Unfortunately, he is right though. It's difficult to determine if a channel is in the clear without trying it out on an STB in your area. That is, unless you're lucky enough to find someone online is in your area and has already tried it. |
| [03:08:45] | mchou: | Tanthrix: fuck off. I'm not trolling. |
| [03:09:05] | aschmack: | JohnQ, http://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/lineupui . . . stcode=94039 |
| [03:09:18] | xris: | mchou: perhaps you should just tone down your sense of humor, then.. some of your jokes don't come off as such in type. |
| [03:09:26] | JohnQ: | Tanthrix: Ya, I'll ask some guys tomorrow. I just hate the "IF"s involved... IF it is in the clear |
| [03:09:39] | JohnQ: | IF it is unencrypted over firewire... |
| [03:09:40] | Tanthrix: | JohnQ: It's kind of a sucky situation, no matter which way you look at it. I had most of my channels in the clear for about 6 months, then they started encrypting random ones here and there. |
| [03:09:45] | JohnQ: | IF if if... |
| [03:10:01] | JohnQ: | Ya exactly. |
| [03:10:13] | mchou: | xris: if tantrix has a problem with my humor, he should not confuse it with trolling |
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| [03:11:42] | Tanthrix: | JohnQ: That's why I just gave up and do only OTA HD now. I was geting tired of the whole unreliability of the situation. If Comcast wants my money for HD service, they're going to need to give me some assurances first. |
| [03:12:39] | JohnQ: | Tanthrix: Yeah, I am sort of leaning that way myself now... if for no other reason than "stability" and "sanity" :-) |
| [03:12:54] | mchou: | JohnQ: you want to record HD (for all premium channels that you subscribe to ) get a HDTivo |
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| [03:13:11] | JohnQ: | mchou: I want no premium channels. |
| [03:13:39] | mchou: | DiscoveryHD is a premium channel if it's not in the clear :) |
| [03:14:02] | mchou: | by premium I dont just mean HBO, SHO, and the like |
| [03:14:15] | ** JohnQ smiles and nods. ** | |
| [03:14:42] | Tanthrix: | JohnQ: Short of a consumer revolt that leads to new laws enforcing compatibility, I think the best we'll be able to hope for is a PVR card that can record 1080i/720p in via component with a built in hardware encoder, which we could easily pair with a STB that we control via an IR blaster or firewire |
| [03:14:48] | xris: | mchou: he's not the only one |
| [03:14:57] | Tanthrix: | JohnQ: Unfortunately, no such thing exists yet. |
| [03:15:12] | mchou: | xris: no, Tanthrix is the only one who HAS called me a troll |
| [03:15:35] | mchou: | xris: and never made mention of humor or anything else |
| [03:15:36] | Tanthrix: | JohnQ: And even that would still require the damned set top boxes. |
| [03:15:38] | xris: | mchou: in the last few minutes, maybe... but there's a fairly large contingent of people here who share the opinion. |
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| [03:15:53] | xris: | I'm the one who suggested that maybe it's just your sense of humor that no one else here seems to get. |
| [03:15:59] | JohnQ: | Tanthrix: when using a STB over firewire, can you control the channels over firewire too or only with an IR blaster |
| [03:16:26] | Tanthrix: | JohnQ: Firewire works for quite a few boxes |
| [03:16:29] | mchou: | xris: no, Tantrix is the only one who has called me a troll in this channel |
| [03:16:41] | JohnQ: | Hmm |
| [03:16:44] | JohnQ: | Interesting. |
| [03:16:45] | mchou: | xris: when I'm clearly not trolling |
| [03:17:56] | JohnQ: | aschmack: thanks.. I think that link is actually a lot of help! |
| [03:19:21] | mchou: | xris: never has Tanthrix even provide evidence of me trolling. He just comes out of the blue and calls me a troll |
| [03:19:30] | mchou: | provided* |
| [03:20:18] | mchou: | xris: and you'd note what I said to JohnQ was postfixed by smiley |
| [03:20:29] | xris: | mchou: it's probably best that you stop trying to defend yourself lest the defenses start getting annoying to people, too. |
| [03:20:33] | mchou: | (19:06:18) mchou: JohnQ: you must be a real loner. Maybe a serial killer :) |
| [03:20:44] | mzb: | nope ... same problem |
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| [03:21:37] | mchou: | xris: and why shouldnt I defend myself against unwarranted attacks? |
| [03:21:52] | ** Tanthrix laughs at the irony of it all ** | |
| [03:22:05] | JohnQ: | Looks like DSCHD is not clear in my area. |
| [03:22:11] | mchou: | Tanthrix: keep laughing |
| [03:22:24] | Tanthrix: | JohnQ: That sucks, sorry to hear that. |
| [03:23:00] | ksool: | After a reboot (on Debian Etch), I've started getting segfaults at the load of every myth program. Strace doesn't show any errors, but the last line looks like this: mmap2(NULL, 622592, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xb526a000 |
| [03:23:25] | xris: | mchou: because you've been about a thread away from being kickbanned from this channel for at least a year... obviously there's something about the way you come off that rubs people the wrong way. I'm just trying to suggest a few things that might help you come off as less obnoxious to other users. |
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| [03:25:02] | mchou: | xris: dude, who's doing the unwarranted attacks within the last 10 minutes or so? |
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| [03:25:34] | xris: | mchou: trust me, that wasn't an attack, it was a statement of fact. I'm probably the only op who hasn't seriously considered it. |
| [03:25:53] | mchou: | xris: I wasnt referring to you |
| [03:26:05] | mchou: | xris: and I'm being serious |
| [03:26:28] | mzb: | mchou: if you mind your manners and pull your head in you probably won't get "unwarranted attacks" |
| [03:26:31] | xris: | anyway, probably best to drop the whole thing (from all sides, including Tanthrix) and get back to helping users. |
| [03:26:37] | mchou: | if you can tell me how I was trolling I'll be happy to be banned |
| [03:26:47] | mchou: | I'm absolutely serious |
| [03:27:21] | mchou: | xris: I was helping JohnQ until Tanthrix came p with his BS out of nowhere |
| [03:27:27] | mchou: | came up* |
| [03:27:49] | mchou: | xris: you're more than welcome to read thru the scrollback. |
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| [03:28:46] | xris: | mchou: like I said, just drop it for now... no friends are being won on either side, and the continued arguing just makes you look worse (even if there was no fault to begin with) |
| [03:29:35] | mchou: | It aint about winning friends in this case. It's about false accusations and justice. |
| [03:29:49] | ksool: | Segfaults? |
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| [03:32:35] | mchou: | xris: no fault to begin with?? How about Tantrix repeatly calling me troll even when there's been NO evidence of it? |
| [03:32:57] | xris: | mchou: he's not the only one who feels that way.. even I do at times, including now. |
| [03:33:21] | ** xris goes away to watch some (myth)tv ** | |
| [03:38:16] | godzirra: | Anyone know where to get a cheap tv-out video card from? |
| [03:38:35] | godzirra: | PCI or PCIe |
| [03:38:44] | mzb: | ebay |
| [03:40:28] | godzirra: | Bleh. |
| [03:40:52] | Tanthrix: | godzirra: Newegg.com is decent. You can get a 7300 that can do everything (composite/s-video, component, etc..) for around $35 |
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| [03:41:24] | godzirra: | Hmm, thats not bad. I'll check there. Thanks., |
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| [03:43:11] | Tanthrix: | godzirra: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814127273 <--That's what I use. (I do 1080P out with a dvi->hdmi adapter) |
| [03:43:30] | Tanthrix: | It's fanless, cheap, and does everything. What more could you ask for? ;) |
| [03:46:26] | godzirra: | One to fall off a truck into my lap? :) |
| [03:46:37] | Tanthrix: | Hehe |
| [03:46:40] | godzirra: | Thats pretty nice though. |
| [03:47:04] | godzirra: | I think for now I'm going to pick up one locally... This is all for my wife mostly, and I need to make sure she's going to use it, or that I can return it. ;) |
| [03:47:06] | Tanthrix: | Hrm. It doesn't have the HD dongle in the picture anymore, which is slightly worrisome. |
| [03:47:09] | godzirra: | She's debating getting rid of tivo. |
| [03:47:12] | godzirra: | I dont have HD anyways. |
| [03:47:42] | godzirra: | This ios the one I'm probably going to pick up to use for now: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/Searc . . . p;CatId=1558 |
| [03:47:49] | Tanthrix: | Well, it's actually more than HD – it's a little break out box that often has composite / s-video, and component |
| [03:47:55] | godzirra: | Ahh ok. |
| [03:48:34] | Tanthrix: | I'd advise you to get one that has one, for the sake of future proofing. |
| [03:48:55] | Tanthrix: | Assuming you can find one that does have one for the same price |
| [03:49:22] | godzirra: | Has one what, exactly? |
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| [03:49:31] | godzirra: | The one I'm looking at does DVI and S-Video... is that enough? |
| [03:49:40] | Tanthrix: | Support for component output, with the dongle box, just in case you need it some day. |
| [03:49:47] | godzirra: | Ahh |
| [03:50:02] | Tanthrix: | One sec, I'll show you what I'm blathering on about |
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| [03:52:23] | Tanthrix: | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125073 |
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| [03:53:16] | Tanthrix: | Take a look at the pictures, one shows one of the break out boxes that I'm referring to. It gives you the support to do s-video/composite (one of the two, or both) and component HD |
| [03:53:18] | godzirra: | Huh, does it just attach to teh svideo adapter on the card? |
| [03:53:29] | Tanthrix: | It's technically not s-video, just looks similar to it |
| [03:54:38] | mzb: | lol ... disable avsync in mytharchive and I get no dvd structure! ... great! :) |
| [03:54:48] | Tanthrix: | It's not a huge deal if you're sure you'll never end up doing HD (or even a EDTV CRT,) but I just think that for the same price it's best to get the most options for your buck |
| [03:55:17] | godzirra: | Right, but how does the box hook to your card. |
| [03:55:24] | godzirra: | All the card ytou showed me has is svga, dvi and svideo |
| [03:56:31] | Tanthrix: | What you think is s-video is not actually s-video. It's a similiar looking plug that you plug the break out box into, which you then plug your s-video or whatever into. |
| [03:57:21] | godzirra: | Most of my questions were directed towards this: Can you get a break out box for any svideo enabled card? |
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| [03:57:28] | godzirra: | OR does it have to be on that specifically ships with the card? |
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| [03:58:08] | Tanthrix: | godzirra: For standard s-video out, no. The card needs to specifically support it. There may be however some backwards compatible plugs that support both s-video and a break out box. |
| [03:58:24] | godzirra: | Hmm, ok. |
| [03:58:30] | Tanthrix: | I'm pretty sure I've seen them before, though all of mine are proprietary and require the box to do any tv-out. |
| [03:59:15] | godzirra: | Gotcha. |
| [03:59:28] | godzirra: | I'll probably pick up the one locally to see if my wife likes it still, then order the other. |
| [03:59:50] | Tanthrix: | Never a bad idea. |
| [04:00:15] | Tanthrix: | Newegg is kind of annoying – they don't actually list what ports are provided on the break out boxes and such, so it can be a bit confusing |
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| [04:05:13] | godzirra: | Heh. Nice. |
| [04:05:18] | godzirra: | I guess they figure a picture is good enough. |
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| [04:07:24] | Mayber: | help! my mythtv apparently is trying to delete files but it has the wrong path. how do I fix it? |
| [04:08:09] | Mayber: | in the setup deal I told it to save in my /home/username dir. but then the backend spits out all these errors saying it can't delete them cause it's looking at /path/to/whatever/ not the one I set.. |
| [04:08:22] | Mayber: | that's why I keep running out of HD space apparently. |
| [04:08:30] | godzirra: | Try looking in mythsetup and making sure the place to save is right there. |
| [04:08:37] | godzirra: | (I'm new to myth, so I dunno if thats right, but maybe?) |
| [04:08:59] | Mayber: | see that's what I thought too, but the only dirs listed in there are correct, and not the ones that the error message contains. |
| [04:09:35] | godzirra: | Hrm. |
| [04:09:40] | godzirra: | I'm not sure to be honest. |
| [04:09:57] | godzirra: | I assume you only have one myth install running? and you've tried restarting your backend? |
| [04:10:22] | Mayber: | yeah, i re-start it everytime after finishing mythtv-setup |
| [04:10:40] | godzirra: | Yeah.. i've got nothing then. :/ |
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| [04:11:31] | Tanthrix: | Mayber: Did you try and move your recording path? |
| [04:11:45] | Mayber: | how do I do that? |
| [04:11:54] | levander: | The Hauppage WinTV PVR 500 doesn't have and IR receiver integrated does it? |
| [04:12:07] | Tanthrix: | Mayber: What I meant, was did moving your recording path, then manually moving the files, result in this program you're having? |
| [04:12:10] | Mayber: | if that's not the same as the storage directories, no. |
| [04:12:43] | Mayber: | no, because the files it's trying to delete do exist in my /home/user dir. |
| [04:13:08] | Mayber: | but whatever is telling it to delete them is using the wrong path. |
| [04:13:26] | Tanthrix: | Let me rephrase: when did this start happening? |
| [04:13:41] | Mayber: | apparently from the start, as I've run out of HD space twice now. |
| [04:14:57] | Tanthrix: | Well, as far as I know, you can't change where currently recorded programs are without modifying the database. You can only change where new ones will record to. (This may be totally incorrect! Anyknow know for sure?) |
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| [04:15:10] | Hilikus: | does mythfrontend use gtk? |
| [04:15:13] | Hilikus: | or qt? |
| [04:16:54] | levander: | qt, version 3 |
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| [04:17:50] | Mersault|Laptop: | Where are all the locations that mythbuntu stores the mythconverg database password? |
| [04:18:04] | Hilikus: | i switched from gnome to fluxbox and now my program descriptions look really small, i THINK it might be something related to qt themes, does anyone notice this in fluxbox? |
| [04:18:07] | levander: | /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt ? |
| [04:18:23] | clever: | Mersault|Laptop: several diff locations but all in the file mysql.txt(run locate mysql.txt to find them all) |
| [04:18:55] | Mersault|Laptop: | damnit, no locatedb yet |
| [04:19:24] | clever: | then try find(or update the locate db) |
| [04:19:47] | clever: | find / -name mysql.txt 2>/dev/null or sudo updatedb |
| [04:19:51] | Mersault|Laptop: | i found it |
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| [04:20:06] | Mersault|Laptop: | *sigh* shouldn't stuff like this be in one location, and one location only? |
| [04:20:23] | clever: | it looks in a few places |
| [04:20:33] | EnderTheThird: | Any of you guys ever set up a Logitech Harmony remote for Myth before? |
| [04:20:34] | clever: | the one in home i think overrides the mising stuff from the others |
| [04:20:47] | Mersault|Laptop: | problem is, I changed the password so that I could easily setup the frontends... |
| [04:21:00] | clever: | ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt |
| [04:21:01] | EnderTheThird: | I'm not sure how to list MythTV in the Logitech config nor how to list the remote in the .lircrc |
| [04:21:03] | Mersault|Laptop: | and now i've spent 20 minutes trying to find all the instances of the old password on the backend... |
| [04:21:18] | clever: | Mersault|Laptop: find and update all mysql.txt's |
| [04:21:31] | Mersault|Laptop: | I have, and it's working... |
| [04:21:43] | clever: | you could also have each host with its own pw(more complex) |
| [04:21:52] | clever: | mysql can easily do it |
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| [04:29:26] | stevenm: | Hello. I've got mythweb segfaulting PHP. Has this happened to anyone? |
| [04:29:45] | Mersault|Laptop: | alright, now it's complaining that there's no IP address for the master backend... on the master backend, and when there certainly is... |
| [04:30:59] | clever: | Mersault|Laptop: check that the mysql host is right |
| [04:31:06] | clever: | along with the database its set to use |
| [04:31:17] | Mayber: | what causes a WriteAudio: Buffer Underrun ? |
| [04:31:18] | clever: | and posibly the hostname of the master backend |
| [04:31:38] | ksool: | stevenm, I've started getting setfaults with every myth app, am working on it now. |
| [04:32:42] | stevenm: | ksool, Weird. THis is particularly mythweb, and it is php that is segfaulting |
| [04:32:58] | Mersault|Laptop: | I just re-ran mythtv-setup on the backend |
| [04:32:58] | clever: | cacti(php based) crashed halfway thru install a few years ago causing apache(with mod_php) to segfaukt |
| [04:32:59] | bsdfox_: | where do I set the partition that livetv is recorded to? I created another lv for it |
| [04:33:04] | Mersault|Laptop: | and I'm still having problems |
| [04:33:11] | ksool: | stevenm, :/ must not be related. |
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| [04:33:32] | stevenm: | ksool, worst thing is.. I already had this issue the last time I installed the bugger |
| [04:33:35] | Mersault|Laptop: | I have both the local backend and the master backend IP's to be the public IP, (the backend is only a backend, no frontend) |
| [04:34:06] | ksool: | stevenm, have you done a strace? |
| [04:34:07] | clever: | restart mythbackend |
| [04:34:14] | clever: | check backend logs |
| [04:34:22] | Mersault|Laptop: | clever: me? |
| [04:34:28] | clever: | Mersault|Laptop: yes |
| [04:34:35] | stevenm: | ksool, got an old backtrace sitting around from last time. "no such file or directory" from zend_objects |
| [04:34:36] | Mersault|Laptop: | clever: I have, it wont start. complains about the backendserverip |
| [04:34:39] | clever: | . |
| [04:34:48] | clever: | Mersault|Laptop: hold on whiile i fix mu font |
| [04:34:51] | Mersault|Laptop: | I can telnet to localhost on 3306, or the public IP on 3306 |
| [04:34:53] | clever: | cant read it from this distance |
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| [04:35:45] | clever: | much better |
| [04:36:21] | clever: | Mersault|Laptop: do you know how to use the mysql client? |
| [04:36:35] | Mersault|Laptop: | sorta |
| [04:36:58] | ** clever finds the query ** | |
| [04:37:05] | ksool: | stevenm, ehh I know nothing about zend or anything. sorry |
| [04:37:17] | stevenm: | ksool, s'ok |
| [04:37:23] | clever: | Mersault|Laptop: select * from settings where value like 'masterserverip'; |
| [04:37:34] | Mersault|Laptop: | alright, let's try this from scratch... in mythtv-setup, under general, assuming this is a master backend with no frontend, should I have the public IP in both backend fields? |
| [04:37:39] | clever: | Mersault|Laptop: it should return just the public up(under NULL) |
| [04:37:59] | clever: | Mersault|Laptop: one field is the ip for itself and the other is the global master ip |
| [04:38:25] | clever: | and you need the self ip set for a backend and the masterip set for anything to work |
| [04:38:26] | Mersault|Laptop: | that returns 192.168.1.40, my master servers public IP |
| [04:38:56] | clever: | select * from settings where value like 'backendserverip'; |
| [04:39:06] | clever: | that should show the ip of each backend(and its hostname) |
| [04:39:15] | Mersault|Laptop: | hmm... I have two values there |
| [04:39:23] | Mersault|Laptop: | 127.0.0.1 under OLDHOSTNAME |
| [04:39:28] | clever: | i see 4(1 per hostname) |
| [04:39:29] | Mersault|Laptop: | and 192.168.1.40 on mythbackend |
| [04:39:43] | clever: | and if you change your hostname youll need to change alot in mysql |
| [04:40:08] | Mersault|Laptop: | I have my LAN setup with static IP's and locally resolvable hostnames |
| [04:40:13] | clever: | all settings are stored under the hostname of the box |
| [04:40:18] | Mersault|Laptop: | so 'mythbackend' will resolve correctly |
| [04:40:26] | clever: | most of myth cant actualy resolve dns names |
| [04:40:56] | clever: | and the ip for self and master must match for the box to think of itself as a master |
| [04:41:53] | bsdfox_: | hmm, anyone know how to setup a livetv storage group or set the ringbuffer to another partition? |
| [04:42:12] | bsdfox_: | I am on .20.2 so storage group support isn't included yet |
| [04:42:26] | bsdfox_: | I see forum posts from 2005 with people talking about doing it |
| [04:42:32] | clever: | ive only seen the option in storage groups |
| [04:42:57] | Mersault|Laptop: | clever: I'm running mythtv-setup on the backend, and in 'general' both of the IP fields are the same, and they're the public IP of the machine |
| [04:42:59] | clever: | . |
| [04:43:21] | clever: | Mersault|Laptop: is mythtv-setup using the same mysql.txt as mythbackend? |
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| [04:45:49] | Mersault|Laptop: | I certainly hope so. I've changed every instance of mysql.txt on the system to point to the same machine and use the same password |
| [04:46:13] | clever: | and what is the exact error your getting? |
| [04:47:17] | Mersault|Laptop: | No setting found for this machine's BackendServerIP. |
| [04:47:17] | Mersault|Laptop: | Please run setup on this machine and modify the first page |
| [04:47:19] | Mersault|Laptop: | of the general settings. |
| [04:47:53] | Mersault|Laptop: | I just finished setting that! |
| [04:48:07] | Mersault|Laptop: | brb, switching to workstation |
| [04:48:07] | clever: | lol |
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| [04:50:01] | Mersault: | alright, back |
| [04:50:13] | clever: | wb |
| [04:50:19] | Mersault: | back |
| [04:50:24] | clever: | wb |
| [04:50:51] | Mersault|Laptop: | wtf... I can't see the text in my other client... |
| [04:50:56] | stevenm: | Has anyone else gotten mythweb to crash PHP? |
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| [04:51:13] | clever: | Mersault|Laptop: more problems to fix:P |
| [04:51:23] | Mersault|Laptop: | it never ends... |
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| [04:51:34] | Mersault|Laptop: | lets see if I can see this... |
| [04:51:39] | Mersault: | huzzah! |
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| [04:51:57] | Mersault: | alright, now I can use a real keyboard... |
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| [04:52:13] | clever: | and im stuck on a french keyboard:P |
| [04:52:29] | Mersault: | that is highly unfortunate |
| [04:52:39] | Mersault: | but, back to my woes with mythbackend |
| [04:52:52] | Mersault: | root@mythbackend:~# hostname |
| [04:52:53] | Mersault: | mythbackend |
| [04:53:11] | Mersault: | that suggests that my machines hostname is mythbackend. I know, I'm creative. |
| [04:53:16] | clever: | the hostname is also shown in bash's prompt |
| [04:53:36] | Mersault: | precisely. ample evidence to suggest that mythbackend is on crack |
| [04:53:39] | clever: | what username are you running mythbackend/mythtv-setup under? |
| [04:54:16] | Mersault: | honestly, I'm not sure. it run it from the startup script |
| [04:54:35] | clever: | ahh |
| [04:54:51] | clever: | your also starting mythtv-setup thru the script? |
| [04:55:24] | Mersault: | aha, interesting... /etc/default/mythtv-backend lets me pick the user. |
| [04:55:33] | Mersault: | I shall choose to run mythbackend as the mythtv user |
| [04:55:33] | clever: | yeah |
| [04:55:45] | clever: | thats what the default is on most boxes |
| [04:55:53] | clever: | and what i run it as on nearly all my boxes |
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| [04:56:14] | clever: | try also running mythv-setup under that name |
| [04:56:21] | clever: | sudo -u mythtv -H mythtv-setup |
| [04:56:27] | clever: | (if you dont want to login as mythtv) |
| [04:57:19] | clever: | you may need to give mythtv access to the X server though(several ways) |
| [04:57:54] | Mersault: | indeed I do |
| [04:58:25] | clever: | you can either xhost +localhost |
| [04:58:38] | clever: | which gives every username on localhost access(could be unsafe if you share the box) |
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| [04:58:47] | Mersault: | naw, logged out and back in as mythtv |
| [04:58:49] | clever: | or you can copy the cookies over to mythtv's private cookie file |
| [04:59:05] | clever: | or do that and mythtv will be given the cookies automaticaly by gdm:P |
| [04:59:58] | Mersault: | interesting... in mythtv-setup it says Local Backend (my-unique-identifier-goes-here) |
| [05:01:00] | clever: | ahhh |
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| [05:01:15] | clever: | mythbackend sometimes trys to ask you for setup to put into mysql.txt |
| [05:01:26] | clever: | and if you arent connected right it defaults to a default for everything |
| [05:01:40] | clever: | and the default for the uniq hostname is dumb(kills things) |
| [05:01:58] | clever: | remove the line with my-unique-identifier-goes-here from mysql.txt manualy |
| [05:02:31] | clever: | (the uniq hostname is if your system hostname isnt static) |
| [05:02:33] | Mersault: | commented out... |
| [05:02:34] | adante: | is it safe for me to delete from jobqueue where type = 2; if i want to delete queued up commercial flagging jobs? |
| [05:03:18] | Mersault: | aha! it looks like it might have worked |
| [05:03:29] | Mersault: | You probably should modify the Master Server |
| [05:03:29] | Mersault: | settings in the setup program and set the |
| [05:03:29] | Mersault: | proper IP address. |
| [05:03:40] | Mersault: | but at least it's running... |
| [05:03:59] | clever: | Mersault: yeah you may need to redo some settings in mythtv-setup now that the hostname 'changed' |
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| [05:04:27] | clever: | adante: about the only harm you may get is loosing errored/done jobs and there status(and maybe the jobs wont stop on there own) |
| [05:04:42] | adante: | cheers clever |
| [05:05:32] | clever: | :D |
| [05:05:40] | Mersault: | do I need this line DBType=QMYSQL3? |
| [05:05:58] | Mersault: | if not, then I should be able to just remove this mysql.txt and symlink to the one /etc |
| [05:06:05] | Mersault: | and then all of this can just go away |
| [05:06:38] | clever: | yeah the dbtype is needed |
| [05:06:51] | clever: | its needed in all mysql.txt's |
| [05:07:00] | clever: | and you could just remove all but the /etc |
| [05:07:14] | clever: | it searches several of them |
| [05:08:13] | clever: | first something/share/mythtv/ then something/etc/mythtv/ |
| [05:08:19] | clever: | it also seems to check the current dir |
| [05:08:27] | Mersault: | alright, there is only one mysql.txt on my system now... the rest are all symlinks |
| [05:08:34] | clever: | i know it also checks ~/.mythtv/ but i dont see the code for it |
| [05:09:17] | Mersault: | now for the all important reboot test |
| [05:09:30] | Mersault: | need to make sure this thing works after a power failure |
| [05:09:37] | clever: | yeah |
| [05:09:50] | clever: | mostly i just hope for the best and avoid rebooting at all costs:P |
| [05:10:04] | Mersault: | the system disk died in this machine earlier this weekend while I was out of town... came home to find my room mate with the shakes from withdrawl |
| [05:10:07] | clever: | 200 day uptime on 1 box |
| [05:10:17] | clever: | lol |
| [05:10:42] | clever: | i was gone this weekend for several days |
| [05:10:45] | clever: | but no1 was home |
| [05:10:54] | clever: | i kept a close eye on things thru mythweb and ssh |
| [05:11:03] | clever: | the drive is nearly overflowing |
| [05:11:13] | clever: | 5 hours free atm |
| [05:11:14] | bsdfox_: | my home fileserver had 750 day uptime ~2003–2005 |
| [05:11:30] | clever: | my redhat9 is the highest right now |
| [05:11:38] | clever: | it lasted thru a power outage that even killed my laptop |
| [05:11:45] | clever: | but the redhat9 is on a ups |
| [05:11:56] | clever: | and the laptop has a old batery and was at 100% cpu load 24/7 |
| [05:12:01] | Mersault: | I've been dong too many things to my network as of late, my uptime is only a few days on any one box... |
| [05:12:07] | clever: | and the ups is on a pair of 12v baterys |
| [05:12:31] | clever: | i avoid rebooting at all costs |
| [05:12:47] | clever: | one of my myth frontends also has an irc client on it |
| [05:12:55] | Mersault: | say, another annoying thing.... how do I get mythfrontend to not complain about 'searching for backend'? |
| [05:12:58] | clever: | and its on a tv stand(with wheels) |
| [05:13:13] | clever: | i made a ups for it just so i could move it between rooms without shutdown:P |
| [05:13:18] | Mersault: | I'm using svn builds... |
| [05:13:28] | clever: | keep the master up at all times |
| [05:13:41] | Mersault: | now, it always is |
| [05:13:52] | clever: | i stuck a inverter and 12v batery on the tv stand and hooked up a 12v suply to charge it |
| [05:14:07] | clever: | but in the middle of the night a few hours latter the low batery alarm started to sound |
| [05:14:17] | clever: | current wasnt matches up right to keep it charged |
| [05:14:31] | bsdfox_: | is it easy to import data from .20.2 to svn? and is svn relatively usable? |
| [05:14:55] | Mersault: | bsdfox_: I'd been using svn happily for several months... and then my system disk died. |
| [05:15:26] | clever: | im running 14799 of svn |
| [05:15:48] | clever: | and if you upgrade the binarys they update the mysql on there own(but you have no downgrade option other then backup often) |
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| [05:15:50] | bsdfox_: | Installed versions: 0.20.2_p14814(01:00:00 AM 11/16/2007) |
| [05:15:59] | clever: | and you cant mix myth versions |
| [05:16:11] | bsdfox_: | is svn .21? |
| [05:16:22] | Mersault: | 14623 |
| [05:16:29] | clever: | about the only risk of upgrading(other then its own problems) is you may not be able to go back enless you backed up |
| [05:16:41] | bsdfox_: | so I'm running a newer version than both of you right now? |
| [05:16:42] | clever: | and you need to upgrade everything at once |
| [05:17:01] | clever: | Source code version : 14799M |
| [05:17:05] | clever: | Library API version : 0.21.20071104–1 |
| [05:17:13] | clever: | Network Protocol Version: 36 |
| [05:17:27] | clever: | looks like mine is from arround nov 4th |
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| [05:18:37] | bsdfox_: | hmm |
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| [05:27:50] | clever: | bbl |
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| [06:01:44] | Mersault: | is there an argument or switch I can pass to mythfrontend to make it stop trying to automatically search for my backend? I have the mysql.txt file correct, I don't need it trying to find the backend on it's own. |
| [06:03:41] | Sedorox: | normally the frontend doesn't search for the backend.. it reads it out of mysql.txt |
| [06:04:56] | Mersault: | In the SVN version there appears to be some sort of automated search functionality |
| [06:05:39] | Mersault: | Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to work right on my network, and it doesn't matter because if I click to bypass it, it works anyway. The only problem is I have to get off the couch and hit enter on the keyboard to make it go away |
| [06:06:27] | Anduin: | Mersault: -d (I think) |
| [06:06:57] | jhulst: | What's a good processor for an HD frontend, I'm looking at AMD dual core, any thoughts? |
| [06:07:04] | Mayber: | is there anything I can do to drop the CPU load on a machine that's running as both the backend and front end ? |
| [06:09:01] | Sedorox: | ahh ok, not using svn |
| [06:11:49] | xris: | jhulst: anything 2ghz and above should be fine |
| [06:12:02] | xris: | Mayber: where is the load coming from? |
| [06:12:16] | xris: | Mayber: (encode/decode/IO/???) |
| [06:16:07] | Mayber: | i have no idea, but from what i've found, that must be what's causing my audio buffer underruns. |
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| [06:20:16] | Mayber: | actually no, that doesn't even make sense. |
| [06:20:37] | Mayber: | top contradicts that almost entirely. |
| [06:20:50] | Mayber: | the only thing that does seem to fit is the fact that it's used almost all of the RAM. |
| [06:23:33] | Floppe: | Mersault: I'm using SVN and it seems like it doesn't work with localhost as IP for the be/fe (mythtv-setup), cause then the selection screen popups. |
| [06:24:09] | Mersault: | Floppe: Weird thing is, I'm not using a backend/frontend. I have one machine for each role |
| [06:24:29] | Floppe: | oh. that works fine for me |
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| [06:29:40] | Mersault: | and adding -d didn't seem to help |
| [06:30:35] | Mersault: | maybe it's time to call it a night and tackle the rest of this in the morning... |
| [06:30:37] | Anduin: | Mersault: mythfrontend -d should disable auto-discovery (forget which revision exactly) |
| [06:31:22] | Anduin: | (it expects a working mysql.txt then) |
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| [07:09:02] | ebil: | I'm having some trouble with mythtv and an nvidia graphics card. basically, whenever I'm watching live-tv or a recorded show, i get a blue bar around the left and top edges of the screen |
| [07:09:41] | ebil: | going to check now whether or not that's visible on vga as well as svideo... but anyone have any ideas what it might be? |
| [07:10:16] | ebil: | also, if I play back shows that were previously recorded (before this new box was built) that blue border is not present |
| [07:14:26] | xris: | axscode: yes, it does |
| [07:14:58] | xris: | ebil: that's the color that X uses for overlay.. think of it sort of like how a green/blue screen works for filming video |
| [07:15:30] | ebil: | yeah, that's what I thought, but why is it showing up? |
| [07:15:46] | ebil: | (was gonna say it's like when I drag a mplayer screen over to my second monitor, it shows up blue) |
| [07:15:46] | xris: | ebil: tv-out drivers sometimes show the edge of the region |
| [07:15:54] | xris: | hang on, I'm looking for the command I use to set that color to black |
| [07:16:21] | ebil: | oh cool!, I'm just worried because it almost looks as though it's actually recording it... |
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| [07:16:35] | ebil: | (the older recorded shows don't have that border at all) |
| [07:17:24] | xris: | xvattr -a XV_COLORKEY -v 0 |
| [07:17:38] | xris: | ebil: sort of depends on the resolution during playback |
| [07:17:46] | xris: | anyway, run that command. it sets the color to black instead of blue |
| [07:18:08] | xris: | you'll need to run it at each login, so put it in your session if you want it to stick. |
| [07:18:36] | xris: | just beware that it will make other apps work funny, so it's not advisable to use black if you use the machine for much other than mythtv |
| [07:19:12] | ebil: | wow... |
| [07:19:18] | ebil: | it just turned the entire screen blue :-P |
| [07:19:25] | ebil: | I think my overlay might be on the wrong window? |
| [07:19:29] | ebil: | I dunno... |
| [07:19:32] | xris: | could be |
| [07:19:39] | xris: | I've never tried it with dual monitors |
| [07:19:48] | ebil: | I haven't had an nvidia card since the TNT2 Ultra :-P |
| [07:20:07] | ebil: | I don't have dual monitors, only svideo is connected, but it's not the 'first' monitor in the chain iirc :( |
| [07:21:35] | xris: | odd. if you only have one, you should only have one |
| [07:21:42] | xris: | if you know what I mean |
| [07:21:49] | xris: | the vid card should disable the vga/dvi ports |
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| [07:24:05] | eeble|work: | bah, had to switch to the laptop |
| [07:25:47] | eeble|work: | xris: well, still working on it, I tried setting up overscan, but that didn't work either |
| [07:27:33] | xris: | a lot of that is pretty easy to do with the nvidia control panel |
| [07:27:47] | eeble|work: | ok, cool, I'll try that out too |
| [07:29:29] | xris: | you can use it to get at the settings to drop in your xorg.conf (or have it do that for you), or you can just set it to run with -l (ell) when your session starts |
| [07:33:20] | eeble|work: | hmmm |
| [07:33:37] | eeble|work: | well none of those settings seemed to fix my issue... I dunno, the image seems... skewed |
| [07:33:51] | eeble|work: | (rotated clockwise about 5 degrees) |
| [07:34:04] | eeble|work: | no idea how to fix that, but I bet that is part of the problem |
| [07:37:02] | xris: | that's not really possible to fix, I think.. more than likely a glitch in the TV or video card |
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| [07:40:06] | eeble|work: | I think it's the TV |
| [07:40:08] | eeble|work: | oh well |
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| [07:46:03] | xris: | time for sleep |
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| [08:11:03] | daMaestro: | i've got a pvr-150 and a 30 minute show takes up ~1.1GB.. so i'd like to reduce the amount of space used |
| [08:11:22] | JohnQ: | get bigger disk. |
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| [08:12:01] | daMaestro: | well.. what i'd really like to do is just have it compress all my video |
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| [08:12:38] | JohnQ: | I'm only half kitdding. You can make it transcode everything to mpeg4 to save space... but in practice... it is a *lot* less of a pain to get jet a bigger disk. |
| [08:12:52] | JohnQ: | jet = get :-) |
| [08:13:48] | daMaestro: | well.. i have ~250GB i can allocate (using lvm) .. but the quality is not good enough to waste ~1GB/0.5hour |
| [08:13:49] | JohnQ: | mpeg4 ends up reducing the size by about half.. |
| [08:14:37] | JohnQ: | a little more than half, depending on how you configure the transcoding options |
| [08:15:10] | daMaestro: | we'll.. i've added some nuvexport jobs and enabled them by default... and i suppose just to record i need to waste the ~2GB/hour but i'd like mythtv to dump the "expensive" bits and update the database with the Xvid data (file location, etc) |
| [08:15:57] | poptix: | for short term storage mpeg-2 is better |
| [08:16:09] | poptix: | for long term, figure out something to transcode it for you |
| [08:16:17] | daMaestro: | which is fine.. iirc that is what the pvr-150 dumps |
| [08:16:18] | JohnQ: | transcoding should replace the original with the compressed version after it is finished. |
| [08:16:32] | poptix: | use the mythvideo plugin to play the mpeg4 transcodes with mplayer or something. |
| [08:16:40] | daMaestro: | JohnQ, ah.. i hadn't seen that reflected in mythweb |
| [08:17:08] | JohnQ: | I see. .. Did you make a user job to transcode or are you using the built in transcode job? |
| [08:17:34] | daMaestro: | nuvexport-xvid --nice 19 --input="%FILE%" |
| [08:17:49] | JohnQ: | No I mean... where did you enter that? |
| [08:18:15] | daMaestro: | touched up /etc/nuvexportrc some; yes.. i've made a user job |
| [08:18:20] | JohnQ: | Ah. |
| [08:18:23] | JohnQ: | Thats the problem |
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| [08:19:40] | JohnQ: | I used the regular transcode job, and it does replace the old with the new... never tried it with an external job. Do you really need xvid for some reason? If you can, use the built in mpeg4 transcoder. |
| [08:20:25] | daMaestro: | i really don't care what format it's stored it (as long as it's mpeg4 and space saving) |
| [08:20:39] | JohnQ: | Yeah, then use the built in transcoders. |
| [08:21:11] | poptix: | i wish mythtv could act as a MCE extender =/ |
| [08:21:25] | JohnQ: | poptix: I am *so* glad it doesnt. |
| [08:22:17] | poptix: | JohnQ: i've got access (via lan) to my neighbors vista box with 5TB of HD content recorded via MCE |
| [08:22:45] | poptix: | tried using smb/cifs + mplayer, but mplayer doesn't play dvr-ms very well |
| [08:23:16] | axscode: | any LIVE CD you know that is 64MB below thats developed for MythTV? |
| [08:23:21] | JohnQ: | I applaud your motives.. but really? mythtv + microsoft = Ugh. |
| [08:23:22] | ebil: | daMaestro, JohnQ knows what he's talking about. 500gb drives are only about $99 these days, it's much easier just to get a bigger drive and let the pvr-150 do what it was meant to do |
| [08:23:45] | ebil: | whoops, a little late hitting enter there... |
| [08:23:50] | daMaestro: | it's not just storage.. it's also i want to deinterlace and actually be able to stream over wifi |
| [08:24:04] | poptix: | mpeg2 can be streamed over wifi |
| [08:24:08] | poptix: | upgrade your wifi =P |
| [08:24:14] | ebil: | daMaestro, what made you pick the pvr-150 then? |
| [08:24:26] | poptix: | 802.11g will do it easily. |
| [08:24:32] | daMaestro: | it was the least expensive card ;-) |
| [08:24:32] | daMaestro: | lol |
| [08:24:37] | JohnQ: | daMaestro: You seem to feel strongly about it.. just use the built in transcoders, and it should work like you want. |
| [08:24:52] | daMaestro: | JohnQ, i assume that i need to build some "profile" to transcode to? |
| [08:25:00] | daMaestro: | JohnQ, this would be what i've never figured out |
| [08:25:10] | ebil: | daMaestro, less expensive than a used ati tv-wonder? or an old bt card? in any case. I have a pvr-150 and it streams quite well over wifi |
| [08:25:13] | daMaestro: | ebil, poptix i'm also doing a nuvexport for my neo1973 |
| [08:25:45] | JohnQ: | Is been a while since I set it up, but yeah... there is a place where you set up a default transcoder for mpeg-2 videos. |
| [08:25:52] | JohnQ: | thats whats confusing.. |
| [08:26:13] | JohnQ: | You tell it that the default for mpeg-2 is to convert to mpeg4. A bit counterintuitive. |
| [08:27:03] | daMaestro: | ok, where is this setting? i can assume this also works with the pvr-150? |
| [08:27:09] | JohnQ: | I'd be willing to hint through my menus to find it for you, but my friends would be grumpy if I interrupted their cash-cab :-) |
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| [08:27:17] | JohnQ: | Yep.. Worked with mine. |
| [08:27:37] | daMaestro: | so.. just run mythtv-setup? |
| [08:27:40] | JohnQ: | (well... pvr-500... but the card is not involved with the transcoding.. ) |
| [08:28:07] | JohnQ: | I dont recall if it was in mythtv-setup or the regular UI... probably mythtv-setup |
| [08:29:29] | mzb_d800: | it's in the frontend |
| [08:29:29] | JohnQ: | I'm sure if you mentioned it.. I would recall, but I dont remember off the top of my head right now. Sorry |
| [08:30:00] | mzb_d800: | recording profiles iirc |
| [08:30:06] | JohnQ: | that sounds right |
| [08:30:50] | mzb_d800: | I've changed mine s that high=lossless, and medium is 2700 (??? not sure about that one) |
| [08:30:55] | mzb_d800: | s/s/so |
| [08:31:20] | JohnQ: | I just used the defaults, and was happy with it. |
| [08:31:31] | mzb_d800: | I get mpeg2 direct from external dvb-t tuners, so my life is a little easier in some respects |
| [08:32:01] | mzb_d800: | I use high in case I need to re-edit a transcoded video |
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| [08:34:09] | JohnQP: | Hmm Network hiccough there. |
| [08:35:00] | mzb_d800: | I use high in case I need to re-edit a transcoded video |
| [08:35:15] | JohnQP: | Ah. Never had to do that |
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| [08:43:11] | daMaestro: | anyone have issues with the frontend and nvidia + compiz? |
| [08:43:26] | daMaestro: | if i turn off compiz everything works fine, otherwise.. the video is just garbled |
| [08:45:04] | poptix: | using opengl to render mythfrontend? |
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| [08:45:37] | daMaestro: | i don't know |
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| [08:46:20] | daMaestro: | no, qt.. so i should switch it to gl? |
| [08:46:33] | JohnQP: | Isnt compiz a window manager? |
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| [08:48:37] | daMaestro: | yes |
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| [08:49:09] | daMaestro: | well... switching to opengl doesn't fix it |
| [08:49:24] | JohnQP: | I must be missing something... why not just use twm or something simple? |
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| [08:49:43] | JohnQP: | Its not like you really need to interact with the window manager of a myth machine.. |
| [08:52:36] | poptix: | well, i assumed he wasn't that stupid |
| [08:52:44] | poptix: | and he's actually just watching videos on his desktop |
| [08:53:31] | JohnQP: | with mythfrontend? hmm |
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| [08:58:30] | daMaestro: | yes, i just stuck my tuner into my main dev workstation |
| [08:58:38] | daMaestro: | i wanted to be able to tune live tv while working |
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| [09:00:52] | poptix: | daMaestro: use any of the various v4l tv tuners available |
| [09:01:37] | poptix: | pretty sure even mplayer will do v4l =P |
| [09:02:42] | daMaestro: | sure, but i need to be able to tune channels, etc and being able to pause and rewind, etc is very nice |
| [09:03:42] | mzb_d800: | turn off compiz? ;) |
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| [09:13:08] | daMaestro: | yeah, i do |
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| [09:27:31] | daMaestro: | hmm.. so what might cause preview thumbs in mythweb to just stop working? |
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| [09:29:49] | daMaestro: | hmm the pngs are in data/cache |
| [09:30:16] | daMaestro: | found it, sorry |
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| [09:48:45] | daMaestro: | hmm .. so is there any reason why mythweb doesn't set the correct content-type when trying to play video? |
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| [10:00:31] | daMaestro: | well.. thanks for much help.. i'm off to zZzZz |
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| [10:14:15] | rooaus: | #4222 sounds like it will be a popular enhancement. |
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| [11:05:30] | ** justinh sets up a new filter to ignore the thread on the -dev list about video sources. bah! ** | |
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| [11:06:48] | justinh: | and FFS people, svn.mythtv.org is not for discussion of tickets!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| [11:07:10] | justinh: | can you tell it's monday? |
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| [11:11:17] | jduggan: | yes |
| [11:11:18] | jduggan: | :) |
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| [12:37:32] | Tapout: | someone has the case of the monday's |
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| [12:47:11] | Dibblah: | justinh: Looks like my last minor nit with this board is fixed :) |
| [12:47:28] | Dibblah: | (The sync issue with xorg) |
| [12:47:56] | justinh: | with svn? I was following that thread intently |
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| [12:49:36] | Dibblah: | Nah – It's not a problem on the Myth side. |
| [12:49:52] | Dibblah: | It appears to be "fixed" with some C&P inside the driver. |
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| [13:08:17] | justinh: | can somebody tell me why some websites insist on 'closing' when they're being 'updated' ? |
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| [13:08:43] | justinh: | like, is it too much effort to have 2 sites, before bringing the new one up to replace it? |
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| [13:42:02] | DustyBin: | justinh: the problem is probably the database |
| [13:49:35] | justinh: | I realise that but even then there's nowt to stop them keeping the new site in the back room if it's done right |
| [13:51:25] | jduggan: | if its a big ecommerce site thats sql driven and possibly hundreds of tb big and requires some alterations, youve no choice |
| [13:51:36] | jduggan: | er, s/tb/gb/ |
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| [13:53:44] | justinh: | well, whatever. they've lost my business for good :) |
| [14:01:35] | Hoxzer: | :) Hmmm, I just got an idea |
| [14:01:50] | Hoxzer: | since alot of my movies are in the form of rar or two avi videos |
| [14:02:39] | Hoxzer: | I could add MythTV movie dir with scripts that are executed with sh. THose scripts would have real name of the movie (matches with imdb.pl) |
| [14:02:51] | Hoxzer: | then I would have second dir with the movies |
| [14:03:12] | Hoxzer: | the scripts in the MythTV movie dir would first check wether or not the movie is unpacked (from rar format) |
| [14:03:24] | Hoxzer: | and if not it would extract it |
| [14:03:55] | Hoxzer: | the if it two CD version it would start the player with playlist without having to swap avi's manually |
| [14:04:31] | Hoxzer: | then I would have script that would create scripts to MythTV movie dir out of the "movie archive" dir |
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| [14:05:21] | Hoxzer: | that could be put as hourly cron job :) |
| [14:05:58] | Hoxzer: | Yeah, I think I'm going to do that. :) Will have to post it somewhere also. |
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| [14:42:40] | Kyler: | I need to redo my MythTV system. My old 1.2TB array is always bursting at the seams and it takes forever to start playback of a program. (It usually fails and I have to try again.) |
| [14:43:23] | Kyler: | I just ordered a pcHDTVTM HDTV tuner. I'm thinking I'll replace my four PVR-250 cards if it works well. |
| [14:43:39] | Computer_Czar: | 1.2 TB ... nice .. what are you running? |
| [14:44:55] | Kyler: | I've got a mix of drives now. They were 400GB in RAID5 but I swapped in a 750 and eliminated the redundancy. |
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| [14:45:10] | Kyler: | I'm concerned about my settop boxes though – Mini-ITX systems. |
| [14:45:34] | Kyler: | It looks like they won't have the grunt for HDTV playback without hardware acceleration – and VIA doesn't provide it. |
| [14:45:34] | Computer_Czar: | RAID from motherboard? |
| [14:46:01] | Kyler: | No, software RAID. I cut it when I was having performance issues. |
| [14:46:11] | Kyler: | (It worked well for years though.) |
| [14:46:28] | Computer_Czar: | Wow ... yeah I could see that becoming a bottleneck |
| [14:47:09] | Computer_Czar: | I've got a couple of terabytes in a RAID 5 but running a NAS box |
| [14:47:12] | Kyler: | I'm thinking about using multiple (rackmounted) Mini-ITX systems for the backend. (The rack is in my wife's office and I'd like quiet low-power machines.) |
| [14:47:35] | Kyler: | I thought I'd also switch to 1TB drives. |
| [14:48:18] | Computer_Czar: | Price premium is still there ... |
| [14:48:21] | Kyler: | Multiple backends (or whatever that's called) will be new to me but it should eliminate some bottlenecks. |
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| [14:49:08] | Kyler: | It's the darned playback that's stumping me though. My father-in-law just got an HDTV LCD and is using it directly from cable here. I want that. But I don't want a noisy fan on my playback boxes. |
| [14:53:59] | Kyler: | The posts I'm finding all indicate that VIA hasn't provided sufficient support to use any of their systems for HDTV playback. I haven't found a solution though. |
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| [14:56:01] | ** justinh laughs. via. PAH! ** | |
| [14:56:22] | Kyler: | So what's the solution? |
| [14:56:28] | jduggan: | via barely plays SD, does it? :o |
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| [15:01:09] | Kyler: | It's been enough for me for years. |
| [15:01:55] | Kyler: | If not for Myth downloading a buttload of data from MySQL when I play a show I'd have no performance problems with my current system. |
| [15:02:30] | directhex|bsp: | mini-itx can do hd. epia can't |
| [15:02:42] | Kyler: | Core Duo? |
| [15:03:04] | Kyler: | I've been looking at higher-end Mini-ITX systems for some labs I run. |
| [15:03:45] | directhex|bsp: | yes, c2d. there are a few 17x17cm boards which take it |
| [15:03:56] | Kyler: | There was a time when I cared about S-video output but I'm ready to buy new LCD panels now. |
| [15:04:18] | Kyler: | What about fan noise on the C2D boards? |
| [15:04:37] | GreyFoxx: | Kyler: Might does not grab a lot of data from mysql during playback. And what it does grab it gets when playback starts, not throughout playback over and over |
| [15:04:43] | GreyFoxx: | myth even |
| [15:04:46] | Kyler: | I have a heat-pipe case for one of my VIA systems. Something similar? |
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| [15:05:41] | Kyler: | GreyFoxx: I recall that it's getting a bunch of video indexes – for jumping around in the stream. It only started recently (within last year or so). |
| [15:06:05] | GreyFoxx: | Kyler: It grabs the seektable, but that is not a lot of info, and again it only grabs it once at playback startup |
| [15:06:19] | GreyFoxx: | barest fraction of a second |
| [15:06:23] | directhex|bsp: | Kyler, there are multiple levels of thermal envelope for intel chips. 35w for the regular laptop ones, which is low enough it can idle without a heatsink fitted |
| [15:06:43] | Kyler: | Yes, the seektable. It takes so long on my system that it usually times out the first time and I have to ask for it again. |
| [15:07:27] | Kyler: | I've tried some basic MySQL tuning but it hasn't helped. |
| [15:08:23] | Kyler: | It might be related to new ivtv drivers. A year or so ago when I upgraded I had lots of problems when I was recording three or four programs. I upped a bunch of buffers. |
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| [15:09:07] | Kyler: | I pushed the buffers to the limit for my 1G(?) system. I might not have enough to run mysqld reasonably. |
| [15:09:52] | Kyler: | Perhaps my new HDTV tuner cards won't require so much buffer space. |
| [15:10:37] | GreyFoxx: | just tried it on one of my HD recordings. took 1.2 seconds to return the seektable with 4669 |
| [15:11:26] | Kyler: | That's a large fraction of a second but quite reasonable. Sounds like I need to start tuning (or add memory). |
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| [15:12:20] | GreyFoxx: | That's the longest I've ever seen one take |
| [15:14:13] | BULLE: | Kyler: you can get extreme passive cooling solutions for all core 2 duo chips, even the quad ones, with thermal design profile of 120watts, it just costs more money the more heat you want to transfer away |
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| [15:21:23] | justinh: | I'll be trying a zalman flower on my core2 duo mobile chip soon |
| [15:21:31] | justinh: | the 'soon' meaning it's not arrived yet |
| [15:21:40] | Kyler: | Any small cases for those? |
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| [15:22:05] | justinh: | for a zalman flower? lol |
| [15:22:14] | Kyler: | (The last bunch I got were the M200s. Those have very little room.) |
| [15:22:28] | justinh: | using a silverstone lc02 case |
| [15:23:18] | Kyler: | Looks good. Thanks for the tip. |
| [15:23:29] | Kyler: | I'd like to find some diskless box though. |
| [15:25:06] | justinh: | heh mine is diskless :P |
| [15:25:39] | justinh: | apart from the shitty looking cubit & a couple of other shitty ones there wasn't much doing in the way of nice small cases |
| [15:25:56] | justinh: | and there still isn't |
| [15:26:38] | Kyler: | I don't need pretty. It'll probably hang out of sight. |
| [15:28:32] | justinh: | I need pretty but I'm stuck with the silverstone |
| [15:28:34] | gbee: | justinh: how long does your diskless frontend take to boot? |
| [15:28:43] | justinh: | gbee: bout a minute |
| [15:28:55] | justinh: | tend to leave it on all the time these days |
| [15:28:56] | gbee: | not too bad then |
| [15:29:04] | Kyler: | same here and I haven't tweaked mine |
| [15:29:18] | justinh: | the new FE will be slacked I reckon |
| [15:29:34] | Kyler: | I'd love to get some LinuxBIOS MBs. |
| [15:29:47] | gbee: | justinh: aye, I do too, just on that odd occassion that you have to reboot you don't want it taking 10 minutes |
| [15:30:07] | justinh: | when I tried ubunut I oculdn't get it down below 60 secs |
| [15:30:11] | justinh: | eep hometime! |
| [15:30:13] | justinh: | brb |
| [15:31:24] | gbee: | probably won't go diskless, too messy but will probably go solid state. Probably CF as it's cheaper than SSD |
| [15:32:35] | BULLE: | Kyler: you can always look at mcubes cases, but they are pretty expensive |
| [15:32:38] | BULLE: | Kyler: but lovely |
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| [15:33:13] | BULLE: | Kyler: http://www.hifiatx.com/hfx.php?lang=EN |
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| [15:35:08] | Kyler: | BULLE: That's all Flash...looking... |
| [15:36:51] | Kyler: | HFX mini? |
| [15:37:01] | BULLE: | Kyler: what about it ? |
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| [16:19:17] | justinh: | gbee: look into DoM stuff. well worth it & space saving too |
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| [16:19:40] | code-r: | Hey, any one know what kinda IR is the HP ir's is it MCE? |
| [16:20:35] | gbee: | justinh: sorry, remind me what that was? |
| [16:21:03] | justinh: | gbee: disk on module. flash memory in a small package designed to plug right into an ide connector |
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| [16:21:27] | justinh: | cheaper than CF when you factor in the price of a reader |
| [16:22:13] | justinh: | anyway, tis time to take doggle for walkies |
| [16:22:24] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [16:22:27] | Beirdo: | mine |
| [16:22:34] | BULLE: | doggle! |
| [16:22:36] | Beirdo: | 's peacefully sleeping right now |
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| [16:23:03] | oobe: | does anyone here know how to optimize mythcommflag |
| [16:23:15] | code-r: | anye one nkow ? |
| [16:23:36] | oobe: | for Australian tv |
| [16:23:51] | gbee: | justinh: ahh, just have to find a supplier I guess, what sort of sizes are we talking about? |
| [16:24:14] | BULLE: | oobe: what do you mean with "optimize mythcommflag for australian tv" ? |
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| [16:25:06] | oobe: | im under the impression and i might be wrong that people in USA have commflag work perfectly |
| [16:25:36] | oobe: | as its designed by ppl in america or europe |
| [16:25:51] | GreyFoxx: | No, it's not perfect for anyone |
| [16:25:53] | oobe: | mine only works about 80% |
| [16:26:02] | GreyFoxx: | that sounds about right on average |
| [16:26:09] | oobe: | ok thats probably what i should of asked |
| [16:26:12] | gbee: | oobe: that's better than in the UK |
| [16:26:13] | GreyFoxx: | and it varies. Some shows/channels are better than others |
| [16:26:22] | GreyFoxx: | some shows are perfect, some not |
| [16:26:22] | BULLE: | oobe: i have never heard about anyone with a perfectly working mythcommflag that always flags commercials right |
| [16:26:25] | oobe: | some channels are really bad |
| [16:27:11] | BULLE: | oobe: simple solution would be for you to write some code in mythcommflag that uses all previously recorded episodes of the same show, as a template, for building a probabilistic model of commericals, and then apply that to any new recordings, that would work well, atleast here in sweden |
| [16:27:12] | gbee: | it can probably be tweaked further and commflagging profiles created for different countries, but it requires someone (well more than one) to take interest in the code |
| [16:27:48] | BULLE: | then just use that for some bayesian statistics or something like that |
| [16:27:50] | oobe: | the best setting i have found is non strict logo flag but one channel plays ads for itself before and after the rest of the ads and mythcomm detects them as the show |
| [16:29:01] | oobe: | a feature i would love to see is to specify different detection methods for different channels |
| [16:29:04] | gbee: | there are some obvious flaws in the existing flagger – e.g. it can falsely mark an advert of less than a minute in length or over 6 minutes (average ad breaks tend to be longer and shorter respectively) |
| [16:29:41] | BULLE: | oobe: nah, it should realy use all detection methods, but use different decision logic on top, depending on channel etc |
| [16:29:56] | oobe: | BULLE: in not a programmer but i would give that a try if its something i could learn |
| [16:29:57] | BULLE: | oobe: and, i think it works like that right now, its just, that there is realy only one decision logic implemenation |
| [16:30:14] | BULLE: | oobe: its not something you pick up that easily, otherwise i would have done it already =) |
| [16:31:19] | gbee: | another problem with the flagger here in the UK is that broadcasters tend to fade between the adverts and the programme, so you can't look for a scene change or blank frame |
| [16:31:29] | oobe: | i find that selecting all decection methods barely works for me |
| [16:32:08] | oobe: | but selecting logo detection is the most accurate |
| [16:32:12] | code-r: | what does "lircd: could not get file information for /dev/lirc |
| [16:32:13] | code-r: | mean |
| [16:32:37] | oobe: | yeah same blank frames dont work here either |
| [16:32:44] | hashbang: | code-r: sure it's not lircd ? |
| [16:33:33] | code-r: | hashbang: no im not usre.. |
| [16:33:52] | code-r: | used this line ot start it |
| [16:33:52] | code-r: | lircd /etc/lircd.conf -n & |
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| [16:34:50] | hashbang: | code-r: try something like lircd -H dev/input -d /dev/input/by-path/pci-*--event-ir |
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| [16:36:23] | oobe: | what sort of remote are you using? |
| [16:37:08] | code-r: | Driver `dev/input' not supported. |
| [16:37:08] | code-r: | Supported drivers: |
| [16:37:08] | code-r: | default |
| [16:37:26] | code-r: | oobe: it came with my HP i think its a MCE cause the Happauge cme with it |
| [16:37:28] | hashbang: | code-r: what distro? and where did you get the package from? |
| [16:37:30] | code-r: | oobe: its a USB |
| [16:37:31] | oobe: | try thus "cat /proc/bus/input/devices" |
| [16:37:38] | code-r: | fedora i compiled newest lirc |
| [16:37:52] | hashbang: | code-r: bad idea. google 'fedora mythology' and follow that. |
| [16:37:53] | code-r: | only keyboard and pc speakers |
| [16:38:10] | code-r: | lirc_dev: IR Remote Control driver registered, at major 61 |
| [16:38:10] | code-r: | lirc_mceusb2: no version for "lirc_get_pdata" found: kernel tainted. |
| [16:38:10] | code-r: | lirc_mceusb2: Philips eHome USB IR Transciever and Microsoft MCE 2005 Remote Control driver for LIRC $Revision: 1.28 $ |
| [16:38:11] | hashbang: | code-r: fedora mythology + ATrpms JFWs. |
| [16:38:13] | code-r: | dmeg |
| [16:38:56] | oobe: | before you compile you need to select driver configuration / 0 other / 6 linux input layer |
| [16:39:27] | hashbang: | oobe: all done for you in the ATrpms packages. Most people really shouldn't have any need to compile anything these days. |
| [16:39:43] | oobe: | fair enough |
| [16:39:52] | oobe: | he said he compiled it thoughi thought |
| [16:40:01] | code-r: | hashbang: excapt it wants to upgrade my kernel |
| [16:40:19] | hashbang: | code-r: should work with the standard FC8 update kernel. |
| [16:40:28] | hashbang: | code-r: what's it trying to upgrade it to? |
| [16:40:39] | oobe: | iyou need to tell if to load devinput in hardware.conf not dev/input |
| [16:40:42] | code-r: | 22 |
| [16:40:51] | hashbang: | code-r: 22 what? |
| [16:41:04] | oobe: | woops |
| [16:41:05] | oobe: | DRIVER="dev/input" |
| [16:41:06] | hashbang: | code-r: latest FC8 update kernel is 2.6.23.1–49.fc8 |
| [16:41:10] | code-r: | 2.6.22 |
| [16:41:13] | oobe: | i was wrong |
| [16:41:21] | code-r: | im running FC6 and 2.16.18 |
| [16:41:38] | hashbang: | code-r: any particular reason for using FC6? |
| [16:41:43] | jduggan: | 2.16?, wow you're years ahead |
| [16:41:53] | hashbang: | jduggan: heh |
| [16:42:00] | oobe: | and an unstable branch :P |
| [16:44:08] | code-r: | hashbang: more support for crazy hardware hackdes :) |
| [16:44:13] | code-r: | 2.6.18 |
| [16:44:30] | Kyler: | I enabled logging of slow queries in MySQL again. The query times for recordedseek (before playback) is 9–15 seconds right now. |
| [16:44:54] | hashbang: | code-r: best thing, then, is probably to take the ATrpms src.rpm of lirc and build it on your system against the kernel you're running |
| [16:46:05] | Kyler: | Oops. It took 22 seconds for the last query and that caused playback to timeout and tell me that I "have finished watching" the program. |
| [16:46:08] | code-r: | hashbang: but shouldnt it be as simple as compiling lirc LoL |
| [16:46:26] | hashbang: | code-r: no, 'cos Axel's done all the hard work for you. |
| [16:46:27] | hashbang: | :-) |
| [16:46:36] | oobe: | its not really that hard |
| [16:46:49] | oobe: | i compile lirc |
| [16:46:52] | hashbang: | oobe: well, not hard, but tedious. Why bother re-inventing the wheel? |
| [16:47:02] | code-r: | hashbang: what if i want to (i learn more that way) |
| [16:47:12] | oobe: | yeah if i could apt-get a nice lirc i would |
| [16:47:18] | Kyler: | I have 2GB on this machine. Nothing else is running. There's no swapping. How do I make MySQL faster? |
| [16:47:29] | oobe: | my remote never works without cvs |
| [16:47:46] | code-r: | oobe: how can i chec if my remote is in fact a usb |
| [16:47:52] | code-r: | uhh mce |
| [16:47:56] | oobe: | code-r do you know if you remote is even supported? |
| [16:47:59] | hashbang: | code-r: have a poke around Axel's spec file, then, to see how he compiles it. |
| [16:48:16] | oobe: | lsusb | grep IR |
| [16:48:22] | oobe: | lsusb -v | grep IR |
| [16:48:34] | code-r: | problem is that it announces itself as |
| [16:48:34] | code-r: | Bus 001 Device 002: ID 1784:0006 |
| [16:48:35] | oobe: | that should work |
| [16:48:54] | code-r: | does the module create a device? |
| [16:49:20] | oobe: | yeah usually in /dev/input |
| [16:49:40] | Kyler: | Repeated (identical) queries from recordedseek return very quickly. It's just the first one that's a killer. |
| [16:49:45] | oobe: | i wrote a how to for my remote since they only wrote drivers for it a week ago |
| [16:49:54] | code-r: | ok.. its /dev/input/event2 |
| [16:50:04] | code-r: | do i pass that into lircd |
| [16:50:09] | oobe: | cat /proc/bus/input/device |
| [16:50:21] | oobe: | will make sure you have the right event |
| [16:50:25] | fysa: | kyler, are you using mysql5? |
| [16:50:35] | fysa: | you can enable query_cache if it's not |
| [16:50:36] | code-r: | hmmm |
| [16:50:39] | code-r: | N: Name="PC Speaker" |
| [16:50:42] | code-r: | guess not :-S |
| [16:50:50] | oobe: | there should be a few |
| [16:51:04] | code-r: | jsut one |
| [16:51:18] | oobe: | cat /proc/bus/input/devices |
| [16:51:20] | oobe: | sorry |
| [16:51:24] | oobe: | not cat /proc/bus/input/device |
| [16:51:32] | code-r: | yeh i know |
| [16:51:35] | code-r: | only pc speaker |
| [16:51:44] | code-r: | http://pastebin.com/m15d5a970 |
| [16:51:45] | oobe: | N: Name="IR-receiver inside an USB DVB receiver" |
| [16:51:47] | code-r: | thast me dmesg |
| [16:51:50] | oobe: | that is mine |
| [16:51:57] | code-r: | nop just pc speaker :-S |
| [16:52:04] | oobe: | dmesg | grep IR |
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| [16:52:21] | oobe: | is this a remote that came with ur tuner> |
| [16:52:22] | oobe: | ? |
| [16:52:28] | code-r: | oobe: its came with my computer |
| [16:52:36] | code-r: | the tuner that was inside was a 1600 happauge |
| [16:52:45] | code-r: | the remote has HP all over it but im assuming its rebagged |
| [16:52:48] | Kyler: | fysa: Yes, mysql 5.0.38–0ubuntu1. |
| [16:52:50] | oobe: | so u dont really know what it is |
| [16:52:58] | code-r: | no, i dont.. hence my original question |
| [16:53:06] | oobe: | does it have a small model number on it |
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| [16:53:38] | code-r: | tsgi-ir01 |
| [16:53:53] | oobe: | have you tried googling it |
| [16:54:01] | code-r: | yep |
| [16:55:21] | oobe: | i just did to looks like there is know support |
| [16:55:47] | code-r: | there is? |
| [16:56:47] | oobe: | sorry typo |
| [16:56:52] | oobe: | no suppory |
| [16:56:58] | code-r: | oh |
| [16:57:00] | oobe: | lol sorry |
| [16:57:03] | code-r: | =( booo |
| [16:57:14] | iamlindoro_: | Definitely no Support for the HVR-1600, either |
| [16:57:18] | oobe: | best thing you can do is buy another one |
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| [16:57:29] | code-r: | funny thig is when i run the modprobe lirc_usb2 the red lite on teh usb device goes on |
| [16:57:34] | code-r: | i know i got a pvr150 in there too.. |
| [16:57:37] | iamlindoro_: | That's just power |
| [16:57:46] | code-r: | iamlindoro: yeh but it is not on w/o the module loL |
| [16:57:53] | justinh: | gbee: I found a supplier in the UK for work. they were a bit expensive IIRC but places like overclockers, itxwarehouse etc do em cheaper |
| [16:58:10] | justinh: | last time I looked I think 1GB was about 15 squis |
| [16:58:49] | gbee: | ahh cool |
| [16:59:51] | justinh: | they're harder to find than CF cards but worth tracking down IMHO |
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| [17:00:31] | justinh: | gonna experiment with a spare DOM to hold a bootloader & mount / over NFS |
| [17:00:41] | code-r: | and i like the remote for the HP: and i dont have my happage remote her e:- |
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| [17:00:55] | justinh: | I only have small ones right now though. I think 64M is the biggest |
| [17:01:24] | justinh: | bah still no email from ebay seller. getting rather ragged off now |
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| [17:02:10] | oobe: | code-r: does irw work when you load the lirc_usb2 module |
| [17:02:35] | Kyler: | Ug. "The connection to the master backend server has gone away for some reason.. Is it running?" followed by an "OK" that I can't activate. Restart... |
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| [17:03:30] | Kyler: | This happens enough that I built a special remote control monitor that senses the power button being held and kills mythfrontend. |
| [17:03:41] | oobe: | code-r i found some expirmental dirvers for your tuner |
| [17:03:54] | oobe: | damn it he has gone |
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| [17:10:44] | Kyler: | Anyone, how big is your recordedseek table? Mine's 5548922 rows. |
| [17:10:57] | ** justinh can't remember how to find out ** | |
| [17:11:06] | Kyler: | select count(*) from recordedseek; |
| [17:11:29] | justinh: | 1559553 |
| [17:11:41] | justinh: | that's for 222 shows |
| [17:11:49] | fryfrog: | 906923 |
| [17:11:57] | Kyler: | Hmmm...that doesn't seem _too_ much smaller. (I'm still trying to determine why my queries are so slow.) |
| [17:12:08] | justinh: | Kyler: got binary logging turned on? |
| [17:12:14] | Kyler: | I only have 366 shows. |
| [17:12:17] | fryfrog: | you've done a mythoptimize? i doubt that helps that table though :/ |
| [17:12:20] | justinh: | I think that can affect speed |
| [17:12:50] | justinh: | a while ago I think I remember someone posting some optimised mysql settings for mythtv |
| [17:12:51] | Kyler: | Yes, I have binary logging on. I'd considered disabling it but I thought I determined it wasn't such a big win. I'll try it. |
| [17:13:07] | Kyler: | I found some optimizations but they haven't helped. |
| [17:13:35] | justinh: | did you restart the server afterwards? sorry for the dumb question btw |
| [17:14:15] | Kyler: | Yes. And I just disabled binary logging and...still slow – 14 seconds to start playback. |
| [17:14:33] | justinh: | Kyler: my box is sometimes slow to start playback too |
| [17:14:51] | Kyler: | Mine is always slow. It often times out (after 20 seconds). |
| [17:14:58] | Kyler: | It wasn't always like this. |
| [17:15:23] | justinh: | somebody (I think it was greyfoxx) discovered the frontend is scaling & caching fonts it doesn't necessarily need before starting playback. that's a factor too |
| [17:15:46] | Kyler: | It seems strongly coupled to the query from recordedseek. |
| [17:16:36] | justinh: | if you're commflagging & the commflagger is putting a load of erroneous jump points in the table, that could be a factor |
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| [17:17:11] | Kyler: | The last query returned 3520 rows. That's not high, right? |
| [17:17:23] | justinh: | Kyler: probably not for one show |
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| [17:19:12] | Kyler: | It looks like around 3600 for a half hour, 7100 for a full hour. That's consistent. |
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| [17:20:14] | Kyler: | Do I need to index recordedseek? |
| [17:20:58] | Kyler: | It looks like chanid, starttime and type are already primary keys. Bummer. |
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| [17:24:38] | Kyler: | Is there a way to tweak how many rows go into recordedseek? |
| [17:27:34] | Kyler: | Here's a thread about problems in recordedseek. http://www.mythtvtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php . . . p;highlight= |
| [17:29:57] | Kyler: | Is it likely that I have a problem that's keeping recordedseek from performing adequately? |
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| [17:35:25] | justinh: | Kyler: not much doing on those forums anymore. futile questions, mostly. real results come from the mailing lists if anything |
| [17:35:45] | justinh: | where the world comes to speak about mythtv, except those who hate forums :) |
| [17:38:19] | Kyler: | I'm bumbling around right now so the realtime feedback helps. |
| [17:38:41] | Kyler: | "mysqladmin status" returns "Uptime: 1437 Threads: 12 Questions: 8026 Slow queries: 92 Opens: 120 Flush tables: 1 Open tables: 105 Queries per second avg: 5.585" |
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| [17:50:41] | hasse: | hey, im trying to set up my remote control a hauppage pvr500 , but the irw command wont give any response ?? anyone |
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| [18:27:21] | Anduin: | hashbang: This is the USB kit or the one that plugs in to the 500? |
| [18:27:56] | hashbang: | Anduin: I suspect you mean hasse |
| [18:28:21] | Anduin: | I do, I apologize. |
| [18:29:07] | hashbang: | Anduin: s'ok! |
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| [18:30:47] | godzirra: | Howdy. |
| [18:30:55] | godzirra: | I got my linux box up and working with my new video card, but I can't get X to start now :/ |
| [18:31:00] | godzirra: | Even doing a dpkg-reconfigure didnt fix it. Blargh. |
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| [18:34:11] | bsdfox__: | check the xorg logs |
| [18:35:08] | godzirra: | It s ays "No matching device section for instance (BusID PCI:2:0:0) found" |
| [18:35:39] | seth|web: | that wouls be the problem |
| [18:35:45] | seth|web: | what kind of card? |
| [18:36:06] | seth|web: | AGP, PCI, PCIx |
| [18:36:36] | godzirra: | PCIx |
| [18:36:45] | godzirra: | It does that when I try nv or vesa for the driver. |
| [18:36:52] | seth|web: | what was it before? |
| [18:36:57] | iamlindoro_: | sudo nvidia-xconfig |
| [18:37:04] | godzirra: | It was onboard before. |
| [18:37:07] | seth|web: | yeah, that would do it |
| [18:37:22] | godzirra: | Ahh thanks. Let me add it and try that. |
| [18:37:26] | seth|web: | or change it to BusID PCI:1:0:0 |
| [18:37:44] | godzirra: | Heh. FAiled to load module nvidia ;p |
| [18:37:45] | bsdfox__: | or just remove the BusID line completely |
| [18:37:50] | bsdfox__: | it should auto detect |
| [18:37:50] | seth|web: | actually I think I commented out that line in mine |
| [18:37:56] | seth|web: | yeah |
| [18:37:59] | bsdfox__: | see now you know your problem :) |
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| [18:38:01] | godzirra: | I dont have anything that says PCI anything in my xorg.conf |
| [18:38:10] | godzirra: | Should I be using the nvidia module instead of nv? |
| [18:38:16] | seth|web: | yes |
| [18:38:16] | bsdfox__: | yes |
| [18:38:19] | iamlindoro_: | oh my yes |
| [18:38:21] | godzirra: | Heh. |
| [18:38:22] | godzirra: | ok. |
| [18:38:29] | godzirra: | Let me install it real quick. I just downloaded nvidias driver. |
| [18:40:28] | godzirra: | Hrm. What do I need to install to have the proper /lib/modules/<version>/source/include/linux/kernel.h? |
| [18:40:44] | seth|web: | what distro? |
| [18:40:45] | godzirra: | I thought it was linux-headers-2.6.20-16-generic |
| [18:40:46] | godzirra: | ubuntu |
| [18:41:02] | seth|web: | just do an sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx |
| [18:41:07] | seth|web: | should do it for you |
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| [18:41:51] | godzirra: | Woot. |
| [18:41:54] | godzirra: | Thjat did it. Thanks ;) |
| [18:42:01] | seth|web: | :) |
| [18:42:13] | godzirra: | Hrm. Now I just need to figure out how to get it on my tv ;) |
| [18:42:21] | godzirra: | Console shows up, just not X. |
| [18:42:34] | seth|web: | run nvidia settings |
| [18:42:40] | seth|web: | er rather nvidia-settings |
| [18:42:42] | ali1234: | hey you know, there's three version of nvidia-glx in ubuntu – you have to pick the right one |
| [18:42:42] | bsdfox__: | you need the kernel sources probably |
| [18:42:49] | godzirra: | in X? |
| [18:43:03] | godzirra: | Yeah, apparently. ;) |
| [18:44:43] | godzirra: | Hrm. TV-0 is greyed out. |
| [18:44:50] | godzirra: | well, not greyed out... it just has no options under it. |
| [18:45:03] | godzirra: | ahh there we go. |
| [18:49:12] | godzirra: | Ok.. having some issues still... lol |
| [18:50:10] | godzirra: | For some reason, my desktop is bigger than my screen. |
| [18:50:24] | iamlindoro_: | run at 720x480 and it won't be |
| [18:50:40] | justinh: | see the section in the wiki about overscan. it's all explained in there |
| [18:51:16] | godzirra: | Ok. |
| [18:51:28] | godzirra: | But should it be bigger on my lcd monitor and my tv? |
| [18:51:37] | godzirra: | the problem I'm having is on my lcd screen, I havent even gotten it on my tv yet. |
| [18:51:51] | godzirra: | Normally I dont run a windows manage,r I just run mythfrontend in my .xinitrc, but when I do that, it starts on my lcd, not my tv. |
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| [18:52:45] | godzirra: | Actually I cant even figure out ow to get it onto my tv... |
| [18:52:57] | godzirra: | My tv shows the ubuntu screen, and when I drop out of X, it shows the console I'm typing in. |
| [18:53:02] | iamlindoro_: | Then stop guessing and google for a howto |
| [18:54:13] | iamlindoro_: | Like something like "nvidia ubuntu tv-out"... Howtos are only 8 or so of the first 10 results |
| [18:54:45] | godzirra: | I'm already reading one. |
| [18:54:51] | bsdfox__: | lol |
| [18:54:54] | ali1234: | there's about 6 different ways to get tv-out on nvidia |
| [18:55:00] | Dr_willis: | godzirra, getting tv out tweaked just right can take some work. :) ive also noticed it depends on your exact nvidia card. |
| [18:55:06] | ali1234: | it depends what you actually want |
| [18:55:14] | Dr_willis: | I tend to set up a Wide Desktop for my Desktop/tv. |
| [18:55:19] | bsdfox__: | what card are you using godzirra |
| [18:55:35] | godzirra: | 7200 GS |
| [18:55:40] | bsdfox__: | nvtv might work for you if you can't get your xorg.conf setup right |
| [18:55:49] | godzirra: | I'm just trying to get it so I can use my desktop and my w ife can still play with my thtv on the tv. |
| [18:55:52] | bsdfox__: | that should work fine |
| [18:55:52] | godzirra: | I'm still reading. ;) |
| [18:56:28] | Dr_willis: | godzirra, thats what i do – i have mythtv on the tv. and my desktop on the pc monitor – HOWEVER to change channels and stuff i still have to mouse to the mythtv window and click it. :) |
| [18:56:29] | ali1234: | then firstly you should be using nvidia-glx-new |
| [18:56:44] | godzirra: | Ahh, hrm. |
| [18:56:46] | Dr_willis: | mythtv has a setting to 'stay/stick/start' on a specific screen |
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| [18:56:56] | godzirra: | Dr_willis: And there's no way aaround that? |
| [18:57:28] | ali1234: | you can use the DISPLAY environment variable to control which screen mythtv appears on |
| [18:57:45] | Dr_willis: | godzirra, unless you can figure a way to have 2 seperate inputs for X. and some how route them to the right priogram/desktop... |
| [18:58:08] | Dr_willis: | godzirra, you could run 2 X instances. But even then. I dont know how ya get keyboard One for X1. and Keybosard 2 for X2 |
| [18:58:29] | godzirra: | Eh. Thats ok. |
| [18:58:32] | godzirra: | I dont use my desktop that often. |
| [18:58:35] | godzirra: | I ssh in much more than anything else. |
| [18:59:14] | Dr_willis: | I got a wireless keyboard by the bed i use when im watching mythtv.. and a different one on the desk. :) i just have to rember to click mythtv first when i want to sit on the bed. |
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| [19:00:07] | godzirra: | ok, so sounds like what I want isn't g oing to work right... so no big deal. |
| [19:00:15] | godzirra: | Then I just want mythv to start on my tv when I start X. |
| [19:00:20] | godzirra: | Since I'm not going to have a windows manager in the background. |
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| [19:02:31] | Dr_willis: | why not.. :) |
| [19:02:51] | Dr_willis: | actually the Mythtv setting sets the intial screen/monitor. so no WM is needed. But its best to have a wm going |
| [19:03:01] | godzirra: | Why? |
| [19:03:05] | godzirra: | If I'm not really going to use it... |
| [19:03:09] | Dr_willis: | Just in case you need it. |
| [19:03:13] | godzirra: | Eh. |
| [19:03:25] | godzirra: | I have it connected to a monitor switch with a windows box, and have an ubuntu laptop. |
| [19:03:28] | godzirra: | I won't need it ;) |
| [19:03:31] | Dr_willis: | when mythtv plays a video mplayer makes a new window. it CAN get 'under' the mythtv window. |
| [19:03:38] | godzirra: | Huh. |
| [19:03:43] | godzirra: | Odd. |
| [19:04:00] | Dr_willis: | try it without a window manager then.. dont spend the extra 10 sec to install jwm, or openbox. see if i care. :) |
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| [19:04:32] | Dr_willis: | actually i use KDE. that way i can define the mythtv window to be no titlebar/ and other tweaks |
| [19:04:52] | Dr_willis: | mythbuntu uses fluxbox by default i think |
| [19:05:15] | ali1234: | xfce |
| [19:06:22] | godzirra: | Well damnit. I broke something apparently... I can't start X again =p |
| [19:06:34] | godzirra: | It tells me no matching devices for PCI:2:0:0 now. ;p |
| [19:07:27] | godzirra: | Who knew I'd have more trouble getting TV out working on X than setting up mythtv. ;p |
| [19:08:13] | ali1234: | everyone who has already done it |
| [19:08:22] | godzirra: | ;p |
| [19:08:33] | gbee: | you need a window manager for input focus reasons, you want control to switch between an external application and have the focus returned to mythfrontend when you are finished, otherwise you'll be in here complaining that mythfrontend is no longer responding to the mouse/keyboard/remote |
| [19:09:17] | godzirra: | ok/. |
| [19:09:32] | godzirra: | I changed to nvidia-glx-new like someone suggested, and now its telling me I have an api mismatch. |
| [19:09:40] | gbee: | frankly there is no good reason at all to run mythtv without a window manager, it's like painting go-faster stripes on your car – pointless |
| [19:10:11] | godzirra: | lol |
| [19:10:18] | Dr_willis: | gbee, i perfer spinnin hubcaps! |
| [19:10:21] | Dr_willis: | bye all... |
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| [19:10:26] | godzirra: | he.h |
| [19:10:28] | godzirra: | heh. |
| [19:10:36] | ali1234: | that's a known bug |
| [19:11:00] | godzirra: | Spinning hubcaps? |
| [19:11:11] | ali1234: | no the api mismatch thing |
| [19:11:15] | godzirra: | Ah. |
| [19:11:20] | godzirra: | I just downgraded to nvidia-glx and it worked. |
| [19:11:20] | ali1234: | it happens if you install glx-new over glx |
| [19:11:29] | ali1234: | yeah it will do but you'll have worse performance |
| [19:11:34] | godzirra: | bleh. My mousescrolling doesnt work =p |
| [19:11:43] | godzirra: | How bad? I'm not using it f or anything other than mythtv. |
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| [19:12:29] | ali1234: | not particularly bad. the newer driver seems easier to configure if i recall correctly |
| [19:12:51] | ali1234: | that is, the newer nvidia-settings that goes with it is easier to use |
| [19:13:06] | godzirra: | Eh. |
| [19:15:20] | xand: | weird, I played a mythtv recording in mplayer and it's playing some commentary instead of the "proper" audio :S |
| [19:15:27] | godzirra: | Odd. |
| [19:16:09] | dr_lulz: | xand: try pressing # |
| [19:16:12] | hashbang: | xand: probably alternate soundtracks, or mythtv captured an audio stream from a different channel |
| [19:16:17] | ** xand wonders which of the billion mplayer options chooses the track (and I didn't know you could get multiple tracks for the same TV program...) ** | |
| [19:16:17] | hashbang: | xand: using DVB? |
| [19:16:20] | xand: | yeah |
| [19:16:21] | dr_lulz: | does the recording play correctly in mythtv at all? |
| [19:16:31] | ali1234: | actually maybe the bug is fixed, and you just forgot to rmmod the nvidia kernel module before restarting X |
| [19:16:38] | xand: | # changes to the correct audio track :) |
| [19:16:42] | hashbang: | xand: I've seen that before and I had to hack on mythburndvd to do the right thing |
| [19:16:47] | dr_lulz: | xand: :) |
| [19:16:49] | hashbang: | xand: well, closest to right thing |
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| [19:16:50] | xand: | it's not a dvd |
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| [19:17:02] | xand: | I don't like using mythtv to play stuff |
| [19:17:10] | xand: | can't resize the window etc |
| [19:17:10] | hashbang: | xand: I sorted the separated audio streams by size and made the largest one the default |
| [19:17:21] | hashbang: | xand: sometimes that's wrong, but it's a fair rule of thumb |
| [19:17:26] | xand: | o.O |
| [19:17:30] | MaxeyPad_: | I'm looking for a hardware recipe guide for a mythtv box. I want to implement an HTPC case with it and have the ability to play back full quality blu-ray, hdtv, MKV and all other high def formats. I'm also planning on capturing HD signals from a satellite |
| [19:17:37] | xand: | well... I can't sort anything as it's just one .mpg file :) |
| [19:17:56] | hashbang: | xand: yeah, you need to de-mplex it, then put it back together again |
| [19:18:01] | MaxeyPad_: | I'm looking for a hardware recipe guide for a mythtv box. I want to implement an HTPC case with it and have the ability to play back full quality blu-ray, hdtv, MKV and all other high def formats. I'm also planning on capturing HD signals from a satellite. Does anyone know where I can find such a recipe for a hardware setup that will work extremely well. |
| [19:18:05] | iamlindoro: | xand -aid |
| [19:18:35] | godzirra: | Bleh. Still no tv out. |
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| [19:18:51] | godzirra: | If I use nvidia-settings to do tv out, it makes the desktop weird shaped and stuff, and I can't figure out how to get mythtv onto it. |
| [19:19:05] | hashbang: | MaxeyPad_: http://blogs.snapstream.com/2006/01/18/godzilla-pvr/ as a start |
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| [19:19:29] | ali1234: | godzirra: use nvidia-settings to make a xorg.conf where tv-out is working but weird shaped, then modify the resulting xorg.conf with better resolutions |
| [19:19:30] | ** xand wonders why vlc defaults to the correct track but not mplayer ** | |
| [19:19:50] | xand: | oh well, nm... wonder if this is why I didn't get sound in some other recordings in mplayer |
| [19:19:56] | hashbang: | because mplayer was written on crack? ;-) |
| [19:20:09] | xand: | VLC on debian doesn't behave :( |
| [19:20:20] | ali1234: | godzirra: then to get mythtv on to it launch it like this: "DISPLAY=:0.1 myth-frontend" |
| [19:20:52] | xand: | it has issues with keys like f and spacebar when in non-fullscreen mode, i.e. they don't work |
| [19:21:08] | xand: | or they'll work once, after you switch to full screen and back |
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| [19:22:28] | godzirra: | Thanks. :) |
| [19:24:06] | iamlindoro: | MaxeyPad_: but if you're in the US you won't be capturing any HD off your satellite :) and will need patched mplayer to play Blu-ray or HD-DVD rip audio tracks... and won't be able to play any Blu-ray or HD-DVD straight off the disk. |
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| [19:26:18] | godzirra: | Ok, thanks for all the help... I've still got more questions (like how to switch to the tv desktop in xfce so I can change channels ;) |
| [19:26:28] | godzirra: | But I've got to run to look at digital cams before my wife kills me. |
| [19:26:29] | ** godzirra waves. ** | |
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| [19:41:05] | slmnhaq: | hi, i'm new to mythtv, just starting to go through the documentation and wanted to verify something |
| [19:42:03] | slmnhaq: | can i use one computer to record my programs and have it stream them over my home network so i can use another computer to view the program? |
| [19:42:13] | fryfrog: | yeah |
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| [19:42:23] | clever: | im doing that right now:) |
| [19:42:25] | fryfrog: | myth is split into two halves, the "backend" and "frontend" |
| [19:42:28] | slmnhaq: | correct me if i'm wrong, but is that what a 'frontend' computer is in mythtv parlance? |
| [19:42:42] | slmnhaq: | ok, that's all i wanted to verify... |
| [19:42:45] | follefuder: | yes |
| [19:42:47] | fryfrog: | you can run both on one system, 1 each on 2 systems or any other combination you like |
| [19:42:48] | slmnhaq: | thanks guys |
| [19:42:49] | slmnhaq: | ! |
| [19:42:55] | slmnhaq: | (and gals)! |
| [19:43:15] | clever: | the frontend plays recordings and controling most of it(i have the frontend on 4 systems) |
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| [19:43:24] | clever: | the backend records the shows(1 main one) |
| [19:43:29] | clever: | and he left |
| [19:43:44] | slmnhaq: | clever, thanks |
| [19:43:48] | clever: | . |
| [19:43:54] | clever: | :) |
| [19:43:59] | clever: | got the parts mixed up:S |
| [19:44:22] | slmnhaq: | clever, do you have a preference for which OS you use to install mythtv on? |
| [19:44:37] | justinh: | linux is the best OS to use with mythtv |
| [19:44:38] | clever: | all my myth boxes are ubuntu based |
| [19:44:43] | slmnhaq: | i was thinking of ubuntu (for front and backend) |
| [19:44:50] | slmnhaq: | ok |
| [19:44:57] | justinh: | slmnhaq: mythbuntu is reckoned to be nice |
| [19:45:19] | slmnhaq: | justinh, oh, i'll check mythbuntu out.. i wasn't familiar with that flavor |
| [19:45:53] | fryfrog: | I think I'd go with stock Ubuntu |
| [19:45:59] | ali1234: | dont do it |
| [19:46:05] | clever: | im using plain ubuntu with the svn version of myth but the install process is a bit complex |
| [19:46:08] | fryfrog: | unless you are totally unfamiliar with linux or setting systems up |
| [19:46:57] | slmnhaq: | i have a little bit of experience with compiling code (including kernels) to suit my needs so hopefully i'll figure it out over a few days |
| [19:46:59] | ali1234: | getting mythtv to work properly on ubuntu is extremely hard. use mythbuntu if you want it to take less than 2 months |
| [19:47:12] | slmnhaq: | ali1234, i see.. interesting |
| [19:47:17] | fryfrog: | you might start with ubuntu and installing by hand, and if it is to rough, switch to mythbuntu. you'll learn a lot more about how myth works (so you can fix the problems) if you let it do it for you. |
| [19:47:21] | clever: | ali1234: i found it easy(ive compiled stuff before) |
| [19:47:22] | ali1234: | you can get most things working in a couple of days |
| [19:47:45] | fryfrog: | it is about as hard as getting apache, php and mysql working happily together i think |
| [19:48:04] | fryfrog: | though if you have oddball tv tuner hardware, that can get awkward |
| [19:48:22] | clever: | fryfrog: i allready had php mysql and apache installed on half the boxes i added myth to:P |
| [19:48:33] | ali1234: | none of apache, php and mysql require restricted formats to work properly |
| [19:48:46] | clever: | and the packaged versions of them worked together instantly and seamlessly |
| [19:48:51] | fryfrog: | i didn't mean they were needed, just that installation is on the same skill level |
| [19:48:52] | ali1234: | yes |
| [19:49:05] | clever: | mysql is needed by myth |
| [19:49:06] | fryfrog: | that is true, the packages for mysql/php/apache work very well :) |
| [19:49:15] | clever: | perl/php/apache are needed for mythweb |
| [19:49:19] | fryfrog: | bah! |
| [19:49:26] | ali1234: | installing a lamp stack on ubuntu is as simple as installing three packages and it is done and working |
| [19:49:41] | fryfrog: | okay, i did not mean that php/mysql/apache was or was *not* needed, just that setting them all up together is on the same scale :p |
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| [19:50:02] | ali1234: | mythtv needs about 8 packages possibly, i never found them all... and half of them require manual config afterwards |
| [19:50:06] | fryfrog: | so unbuntu has apache, php and mysql working out of the box |
| [19:50:31] | fryfrog: | dep-build gets the reqs to compile, or you could always use ubuntu's myth packages |
| [19:50:38] | ali1234: | yeah, i did |
| [19:50:39] | fryfrog: | i dunno how recent they are though, lets see |
| [19:51:10] | clever: | ive got 3 build dir's(mythtv myththemes and mythplugins) which need to be built and installed seperately |
| [19:51:17] | fryfrog: | wow, 20.2 |
| [19:51:19] | ali1234: | they dont work very well. mythbuntu basically takes the ubuntu packages, and then "finishes" the installation for you, doing all the stuff that the packages dont do for you. like, add a mythtv user to mysql |
| [19:51:27] | clever: | and i threw together a simple bash script to do all 3 at once |
| [19:51:40] | fryfrog: | humm, ,i may have to try myth buntu some time :) |
| [19:51:45] | ali1234: | and install all the restricted formats you need to make transcoding work |
| [19:52:07] | ali1234: | and configure it so you can start myth on login, or not, as you see fit, from a config menu |
| [19:52:21] | ali1234: | and generally just tie up all the loose ends that you have to deal with yourself otherwise |
| [19:53:07] | ali1234: | also it uses xfce so you dont waste half your ram on gnome or kde |
| [19:53:36] | clever: | most of my myth boxes are kde or gnome in the bg |
| [19:53:45] | clever: | but the laptop has a bash script i made to use neither |
| [19:54:04] | clever: | it fires up X with metacity and mythwelcome and sets tvout on |
| [19:54:17] | ali1234: | and it has mplayer, xine, vlc and real player install by default... i could go on. sure you could install all this yourself... *if* you have 2 months to spare |
| [19:54:31] | clever: | lol |
| [19:54:38] | fryfrog: | 2 months is a bit overkill :p |
| [19:54:43] | clever: | i just install it myself when i find a need to |
| [19:54:51] | fryfrog: | course, for a first time install, sounds like a decent alternative |
| [19:54:53] | fryfrog: | got a url? |
| [19:55:13] | fryfrog: | and does it use the same mythtv as found in ubuntu? |
| [19:55:22] | fryfrog: | or does it have its own repos and svn branch or something? |
| [19:55:49] | ali1234: | jfgi, and by default it uses the same one, they are supposedly going to offer weekly trunk builds too |
| [19:55:55] | fryfrog: | neat |
| [19:56:03] | fryfrog: | jfgi? |
| [19:56:15] | clever: | . |
| [19:56:35] | ali1234: | *sigh* mythbuntu.org |
| [19:56:53] | fryfrog: | wow, i'd have never figured that out :) |
| [19:57:07] | fryfrog: | oh, jfgi must be "just fucking google it"? |
| [19:57:08] | clever: | lol |
| [19:57:45] | fryfrog: | i are has overabundance of teh smarts :) |
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| [19:59:23] | follefuder: | hi everyone! I've got a question about scheduling a show... |
| [19:59:48] | follefuder: | given the the situation that a show comes every day at 3pm and gets repeated a 3am the next day |
| [20:00:09] | follefuder: | But the repeated show is very often too late |
| [20:00:33] | clever: | similar problems here(subtitle/episode name missing) so myth doesnt know its a repeat |
| [20:00:50] | clever: | so it tryes to record every airing of it(including places that conflict) |
| [20:00:57] | MaxeyPad_: | iamlindoro: thanks for the comment earlier. Obviously my methods for watching these things will be ripped and using "less than legit" sources |
| [20:01:03] | follefuder: | if I have now another show at 3pm with a minor priority that isn't repeated the first show gets recorded in the morning |
| [20:01:34] | clever: | makes sense |
| [20:01:42] | follefuder: | I could now use the manual shedule to force myth to record the first one |
| [20:01:58] | clever: | recording just that timeslot would do i think |
| [20:02:24] | follefuder: | but in this case the show wouldn't get recorded at all it at 3pm I have a tuner failure... |
| [20:02:34] | justinh: | so don't have a tuner failure :) |
| [20:02:48] | follefuder: | hmmm... tell that my hardware ;) |
| [20:03:08] | follefuder: | I mean for example a myth-crash or something |
| [20:03:18] | justinh: | don't have them either |
| [20:03:25] | follefuder: | I do... |
| [20:04:31] | follefuder: | is there a way to tell myth to always record the first one unless there is no other show with higer priority but record the second if the first isn't recorded? |
| [20:04:33] | ** justinh sends follefuder some sympathy in a non-patronising manner ** | |
| [20:04:46] | follefuder: | thanks :) |
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| [20:05:41] | justinh: | follefuder: for things that I really must not miss I just 'record at any time on any channel'. it's less hassle to delete two recordings than get angry about missing one (say because the schedule ran 5 mins late) |
| [20:06:05] | justinh: | it's only TV, after all |
| [20:06:15] | gbee: | follefuder: haven't really read what you wrote, but think the setting in the recording priorities screen could be what you want |
| [20:06:23] | clever: | and before myth you may have missed all airings:P |
| [20:07:00] | clever: | but if the guide data is right myth will know what are repeats of something it has and not rerecord |
| [20:07:16] | clever: | and catch later airings if posible to avoid conflicts |
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| [20:07:28] | justinh: | my aerial connection has been dodgy lately since the cabling is a mess, so I've missed a couple of shows. luckily they're on channels where they get repeated a lot |
| [20:07:54] | justinh: | well, myth didn't _miss_ them, they just turned out a mess of 8x8 dayglo coloured blocks |
| [20:08:00] | clever: | twice while i was out for a few days myth recorded the wrong channel |
| [20:08:07] | clever: | like recording 2 instead of 20 |
| [20:08:18] | follefuder: | thats all true... I really don't want blame myth... Its one of th best pieces of code ever... Its rather the fault of the channel and my hardware an I was just wondering if there is a way to tell myth to manage that picky situation |
| [20:08:23] | justinh: | clever: you mean your IR blaster is lame? |
| [20:08:23] | clever: | and by the time i got home the daily repeats of the episode ended |
| [20:08:35] | clever: | justinh: yeah it drops a digit every now and then |
| [20:09:48] | clever: | the box can also be controled thru a serial port but id need the company to enable it first |
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| [20:12:04] | ** justinh hands clever a powerpc/mips debugger & jtag kit ** | |
| [20:12:29] | clever: | yeah my box has a bdm(deguging thingy) interface |
| [20:12:43] | clever: | but id need to pull covers off |
| [20:13:26] | portahex: | hakuna matata |
| [20:14:23] | flexy: | Hello, what's a good pci-e gpu card for mythtv, for me, who gets tv shows via dvb (ready mpeg2 files, mostly SD, but with pay/view card, HD also possibility which would be wise to think)? My friend is a windows freak with fingers on the pulse of HW development, he told me that nvidias 8500GT would be a card with all the features I might need (mpeg2 decoding, h264 decoding in gpu)... it seems that he was right, kind of. All those are |
| [20:14:26] | portahex: | what a wonderful phrase |
| [20:14:46] | portahex: | flexy, there is no gpu-based h264 decoding in linux |
| [20:14:55] | portahex: | flexy, so really, ANY nvidia card is a good bet |
| [20:15:07] | portahex: | flexy, my BE/FE has a geforce 7300le in it |
| [20:15:14] | justinh: | there's no gpu-based decoding of mpeg2 in linux either. they just _help_ |
| [20:15:38] | flexy: | portahex: I read (early this year postings) that even xvmc is not supported on 8xxx series, is that not a show stopper? |
| [20:15:45] | justinh: | hell even in windows, PureVideo (tm) can be troublesome |
| [20:16:05] | flexy: | ok |
| [20:16:13] | follefuder: | flexy: ther ist with Hauppauge's PVR-350... Althrough Myth is dropping support slowly... |
| [20:16:14] | justinh: | flexy: if you can possibly avoid it, don't rely on xvmc |
| [20:16:25] | justinh: | follefuder: only for standard def. tv |
| [20:16:33] | flexy: | follefuder: no can do with that, I need dvi or hdmi output |
| [20:16:40] | justinh: | and it's lame in so many ways. it can't even do ac3 audio |
| [20:17:01] | follefuder: | jep... thats why I don't use it any more... |
| [20:17:29] | follefuder: | but it was great on my first 500MHz 3 tuner Backend ;) |
| [20:17:38] | flexy: | justinh: ok, so it really does not matter which nvidia card to get? a card with more memory, does that make a difference in cpu usage? |
| [20:18:16] | justinh: | you can't really buy much under 256MB these days |
| [20:18:25] | flexy: | right |
| [20:18:38] | flexy: | but is there a reason to get one with 512MB instead? |
| [20:18:45] | portahex: | flexy, no |
| [20:18:53] | flexy: | ok |
| [20:18:54] | portahex: | flexy, it won't help one iota. that's all texture memory, for opengl |
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| [20:19:46] | flexy: | so, any card will do, even the cheapest card, without needing more cpu power? |
| [20:19:57] | follefuder: | btw... is there still the problem that OSD is just b/w with xvmc and nvidia other than series 4/5? haven't tried it for a long time. |
| [20:20:43] | flexy: | I have now 6200, with xvmc enabled, IIRC |
| [20:20:55] | flexy: | OSD is fine, but letme check |
| [20:21:22] | flexy: | std xvmc in use |
| [20:21:44] | follefuder: | myth version? |
| [20:22:16] | flexy: | 0.20.2 or what is it really. from debian.multimedia repository |
| [20:22:41] | follefuder: | so it seems it was an nvidia driver problem... |
| [20:23:15] | ** justinh installs minicom ** | |
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| [20:23:58] | flexy: | ok, this was news to me, that xvmc is not what you want/need |
| [20:24:10] | portahex: | justinh, i find putty is nice for serial port fiddling |
| [20:24:35] | portahex: | flexy, for h264 hd, you need a fat-ass cpu, and a patched mythtv |
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| [20:24:46] | justinh: | portahex: will putty run on a console? |
| [20:25:17] | jams: | nope |
| [20:25:28] | flexy: | portahex: but the gpu does not matter? |
| [20:26:15] | portahex: | justinh, erm... nearly? :) |
| [20:26:20] | portahex: | flexy, not a jot |
| [20:26:26] | bradd: | does the mythvideo internal player support xvmc? |
| [20:26:38] | follefuder: | yes |
| [20:26:41] | flexy: | and if I should not depend on xvmc, should I be using standard (ffmpeg library) or libmpeg2 as preferred mpeg2 decoder? all of my tv broadcastings are mpeg2... |
| [20:26:47] | justinh: | portahex: that's why I'm trying minicom ;) |
| [20:26:51] | bradd: | is there a trick to turn it on? |
| [20:26:53] | GreyFoxx: | bradd: The internal player is mythvideo is the same player as used for recordings, so yes if it's compiled with support |
| [20:27:00] | bradd: | hmm |
| [20:27:06] | GreyFoxx: | If it's enabled in your regular playback config it will be used IF the content is mpeg2 |
| [20:27:14] | bradd: | strange...when i play back recorded programs it seems ot use it..but not videos |
| [20:27:50] | follefuder: | bradd: are you sure they're mgep2? |
| [20:27:59] | justinh: | bradd: if Internal isn't the default player for mythvideo, then it'll use whatever the default player is |
| [20:28:01] | bradd: | ahh maybe not |
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| [20:29:50] | jduggan: | putty works fine on serial console |
| [20:29:54] | jduggan: | unless your OS is vista |
| [20:29:57] | jduggan: | is seems to have bugs |
| [20:30:01] | jduggan: | and crash putty quite often |
| [20:30:22] | jduggan: | never had issues with 2k3/xp etc though |
| [20:30:26] | jams: | justinh- with the settings and a shot of every menu item selected the total is 198 |
| [20:31:07] | portahex: | jduggan, but it needs X, is the point justinh made, i think |
| [20:31:15] | justinh: | jams: wow |
| [20:31:26] | justinh: | I hadn't gone mad after all then :) |
| [20:31:36] | flexy: | which one is preferred in myth for mpeg2 playback, standard or libmpeg2? Or does that matter really? |
| [20:31:59] | jduggan: | portahex: ah, *nix port of putty? |
| [20:32:01] | jduggan: | :) |
| [20:32:09] | justinh: | flexy: whichever you find works best for you, like it says in the help text |
| [20:32:15] | jams: | justinh- it really shows the number of watermarks i'm missing |
| [20:32:30] | flexy: | ok |
| [20:32:43] | jams: | which is good, cause that's what started this. |
| [20:32:59] | justinh: | jams: I have some missing too, but I decided to stop beating myself up over stuff like mythfm & mythrecipe |
| [20:33:41] | justinh: | I've got watermarks disabled on my frontend now. they just waste memory |
| [20:33:45] | jams: | heh i'm not concerned about those either. just looking places where current ones could be reused. |
| [20:33:53] | ** portahex writes a module called mythcommunication, for doing IM. and mythogonist, for downloading porn ** | |
| [20:34:15] | justinh: | portahex: wouldn't that be mythogonitht ? ;) |
| [20:34:24] | portahex: | justinh, yeth! |
| [20:34:58] | justinh: | you could code something up to make some lithp bindingth |
| [20:35:21] | flexy: | I've been using xvmc with kerneldeint, watching SD on 50" screen... is there a filter to soften the image? The big screen size brings all the jagged edges and suchs stuff so clearly visible in the SD material, that little softening would be great... |
| [20:35:57] | portahex: | justinh, thekthy! |
| [20:36:11] | justinh: | flexy: you can specify filters to use during playback |
| [20:36:41] | flexy: | justinh: yes, but I did not seem to find a softening filter in the mythtv sites docs |
| [20:37:34] | justinh: | from what I've seen there's scant info on them anyway |
| [20:38:11] | justinh: | hmm which card is encoder 2? hmmmmm |
| [20:38:24] | portahex: | justinh, the dvb-t card! |
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| [20:38:30] | portahex: | justinh, a nova-t! |
| [20:39:01] | justinh: | lr6650 actually, times 3 |
| [20:39:11] | justinh: | bollocks |
| [20:39:28] | justinh: | godknows what order udev enumerated them & which slot they live in |
| [20:42:48] | portahex: | time for more videogamezzz! |
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| [20:47:07] | flexy: | oh, it seems that xvmc/standard/libmpeg2 as mpeg2 decoder does not really make much difference in cpu usage... xvmc was 20–30%, the other two seems to be 25–35%... so you were right :) |
| [20:47:53] | flexy: | but if that is the case, is there reason to use the proprietary nvidia driver, instead of open source nv driver? |
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| [20:48:53] | follefuder: | can you use the opengl menu with the open source nv driver? |
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| [20:49:25] | flexy: | I have no idea? |
| [20:50:09] | follefuder: | no... theres no openGL with the open source driver |
| [20:50:51] | follefuder: | but at the beginning of next year I think the new openGL enabled open source nvidia driver should be finished |
| [20:51:07] | flexy: | great :) |
| [20:53:17] | bradd: | uggh..are there any known bugs in svn that would make mythfrontend/mythvideo crash when playing an avi file? |
| [20:53:37] | GreyFoxx: | I'm actually working on one now :) |
| [20:53:40] | bradd: | i have a few that just dont work with mythvideo |
| [20:53:42] | justinh: | jees I need to look at keys.txt |
| [20:53:44] | bradd: | mplayer seems fine |
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| [21:00:36] | gbee: | justinh: think this icon turned out pretty well – http://miffteevee.co.uk/imagebin/gallery.png |
| [21:01:20] | gbee: | although on second glance it could look like a screwed up carrier bag |
| [21:01:23] | follefuder: | nice! |
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| [21:02:42] | justinh: | damnit I'm gonna have to buy a 4 output amp |
| [21:02:56] | gbee: | can't get the carrier bag idea out of my head now, but no way I'm redoing them |
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| [21:04:40] | justinh: | gbee: at the risk of being smacked, what's the icon for? |
| [21:04:51] | gbee: | mythgallery |
| [21:05:05] | justinh: | no need to redraw em. just remove the handle :P |
| [21:06:04] | flexy: | I was thinking about the same thing :) |
| [21:06:06] | justinh: | ffs this tuner problem is becoming annoying. first, PiP wasn't worky cos I had xvmc enabled (wtf did I do that for?).. then finding out which tuner is which... |
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| [21:06:16] | justinh: | it _seems_ to be alright now |
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| [21:06:46] | justinh: | we lost emmerdull & (colonic) irrigation Street tonight :D |
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| [21:07:28] | bradd: | hmmm..how come when i go into optical disks menu, there is not a play dvd option? i just see archive files, import cd, eject media, and k9copy? didnt used to do this.. |
| [21:07:42] | justinh: | I'm going to junk these shitty UHF connectors I got from Tesco. need some old-fashioned solderable ones |
| [21:07:42] | bradd: | (there is a dvd in the drive) |
| [21:07:54] | justinh: | you can't get a decent connection with screw terminals ffs |
| [21:08:12] | Yahooadam: | how do you run multiple commands in "test -x" ? |
| [21:08:13] | justinh: | bradd: what? mythtv doesn't have a k9copy option |
| [21:08:25] | bradd: | hmmm |
| [21:08:28] | bradd: | mine apparently does |
| [21:08:38] | Yahooadam: | like test -x /home/mythtv/.mythtv || echo "some text" echo "some more text" |
| [21:08:38] | justinh: | where did you get it? |
| [21:08:49] | justinh: | Yahooadam: man test ? :P |
| [21:09:04] | flexy: | is blueray/the other hd option working in myth/linux? thinking that is there any reason to get a player for those? (windows is not an option :) |
| [21:09:17] | justinh: | flexy: nope |
| [21:09:21] | bradd: | this is a few thing ive just started to get since i downgraded from fedora 8 to mythdora 4.0 |
| [21:09:27] | bradd: | this is a new thing rathr |
| [21:09:36] | bradd: | fedora 8 sucks |
| [21:09:50] | justinh: | roflmao @ PiP in -fixes |
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| [21:10:06] | justinh: | there's 16:9 and there's a wide aspect PiP window.. |
| [21:10:08] | flexy: | justinh: shame. but on the other hand it's good. I'll save the money to something useful, perhaps flowers to wife :) |
| [21:10:16] | Yahooadam: | oh so it returns t/f justinh ... |
| [21:10:22] | Yahooadam: | what does || mean then ? |
| [21:10:36] | justinh: | Yahooadam: a double pipe? no idea |
| [21:10:48] | justinh: | but then at 3 years I'm still a noobiedoobie |
| [21:11:15] | flexy: | Yahooadam: in shell? execute command following, if previous failed, IIRC |
| [21:11:21] | follefuder: | its a longer pipe if the delay is to short with just one :P |
| [21:11:46] | sebo_: | Hello |
| [21:11:46] | Yahooadam: | ah, so if previous was false, then execute the following flexy? |
| [21:12:15] | flexy: | Yahooadam: yep, something like that. && is the same, but with previous true |
| [21:12:20] | justinh: | well, I _think_ my tunerxo problem is fixed. but then again I thought that last night too |
| [21:12:32] | justinh: | it'll do for now |
| [21:12:52] | sebo_: | What is the best video acquisition card that can be used with MythTv? |
| [21:13:00] | justinh: | sebo_: best for _what_ ? |
| [21:13:08] | Yahooadam: | kk, thanks fexy |
| [21:13:49] | justinh: | !trout ebay-seller feckinginconsiderate |
| [21:13:49] | ** MythLogBot slaps ebay-seller with a feckinginconsiderate trout on behalf of justinh... ** | |
| [21:14:03] | sebo_: | recording satellite, video from a analog S-video |
| [21:14:31] | flexy: | Yahooadam: no prob |
| [21:14:58] | justinh: | you bid on an item. you win an item. you have a small problem with payment being delayed, you email them. four times you email them. then when you finally can pay them, you thank em for being patient & gently ask them to let you know if the item has been shipped. what do they do? fecking ignore ya, that's what. ignorant bastards |
| [21:15:51] | justinh: | sebo_: a dvb-s tuner card.. and to grab analogue s-video a Hauppauge pvr150 card |
| [21:15:52] | Yahooadam: | some n00b decided their script would test if the file exists, and exit if it doesnt |
| [21:15:57] | Yahooadam: | really bloody helpful that >_< |
| [21:16:50] | jams: | any java devs around here? |
| [21:17:12] | justinh: | well, no way am I leaving positive feedback about that seller. if I don't get my CPU this week I'm going to PayPap about it. mother loving ebay cra! |
| [21:17:12] | follefuder: | jams: yep |
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| [21:18:20] | bradd: | wtf...i dont get it. when i insert a dvd into the drive the mythdvd menu comes up. but once you exit out of it theres no way to play the dvd unless i open/close the drive again. and like i said theres no play dvd option under optical disks |
| [21:18:33] | sebo_: | justinh: Ok thanks. How's quality of image? Can MythTv have a little control on that? |
| [21:19:01] | jams: | follefuder- we have a client that just installed a new ssl certificate and now our java process fails when attempting to connect. |
| [21:19:18] | justinh: | sebo_: you can't change the quality of digital streams as they come in, so dvb-s will be nice |
| [21:19:24] | Yahooadam: | bradd, it should be on the menu ... somewhere :s |
| [21:19:27] | lucidblue: | hey all, what's the best way to add a drive to an existing system? just copy everything in the videos folder and create a new mount point? |
| [21:19:28] | justinh: | sebo_: analogue with a pvr150 is pretty good |
| [21:19:37] | jams: | any way that you know of to capture the error message and see what part of the chain is failing? |
| [21:19:53] | bradd: | its not...archive files, import cd, eject media, k9copy are the only options under optical disks |
| [21:20:20] | justinh: | how the feck? seller I'm calling rude has feedback for items sold in the last few days that weren't listed on that seller's account. I know this cos I've been checking every day. Fuck I've been had |
| [21:20:38] | Yahooadam: | dont u just love fleabay justinh |
| [21:20:39] | follefuder: | jams: not right now... probably with more information.... |
| [21:20:47] | Yahooadam: | also, what if it was a private auction justinh ? |
| [21:20:59] | sebo_: | justinh: what's the difference with the 350? |
| [21:21:03] | justinh: | Yahooadam: they weren't tho |
| [21:21:21] | justinh: | sebo_: it has a totally lame mpeg2 decoder on board. you don't want it, believe me |
| [21:21:41] | portahex: | what's with the recent plague of 350 users? >_< |
| [21:22:01] | kormoc: | plauge? |
| [21:22:03] | ** kormoc blinks ** | |
| [21:22:26] | lucidblue: | mine was free, I can't complain — but it's my first one, so I wouldn't know the difference anyway |
| [21:22:35] | sebo_: | justinh: ok. thanks for the advice.150 records in which format? |
| [21:22:49] | justinh: | sebo_: mpeg2 |
| [21:23:15] | justinh: | dvb-s is mpeg2, with the exception of HDTV which is h.264 and is a bitch to play on a PC |
| [21:23:38] | sebo_: | Is it easy to make it work on Linux? |
| [21:23:48] | justinh: | sebo_: dvb-s? yeah |
| [21:23:55] | sebo_: | and pvr? |
| [21:24:04] | justinh: | look at the linuxtv.org wiki before buying a dvb tuner though |
| [21:24:07] | justinh: | sebo_: yes |
| [21:24:08] | follefuder: | jams: what sort of connection? what application? |
| [21:24:27] | sebo_: | justinh: which dvb-s card would you recommend? |
| [21:24:38] | jams: | follefuder- mind a pm |
| [21:24:43] | justinh: | sebo_: I don't use one, so not in a position to recommend one |
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| [21:25:04] | follefuder: | jams: ok |
| [21:25:14] | sebo_: | <justinh> : ok |
| [21:25:26] | sebo_: | I'll look the web site |
| [21:25:39] | follefuder: | jams: sorry... I'm not a registered user... |
| [21:26:03] | cliche: | I use a technisat skystar 2 (dvb-s) which is great if that's any help |
| [21:26:09] | jams: | follefuder- /join #jams |
| [21:26:42] | cliche: | Incidentally does anyone know if they've developed drivers for any of the dual dvb-s cards yet? |
| [21:26:46] | sebo_: | cliche: thank! |
| [21:27:30] | Dibblah: | sebo_: I seriously recommend _not_ using any of the "really cheap" value cards. |
| [21:27:58] | sebo_: | Dibblah: So? which one would you recommend? |
| [21:27:59] | Dibblah: | SAA7148 (ISTR) is generally good – Since it's hard to fake a CAM with it. |
| [21:28:07] | cliche: | sebo_: np. Drivers are in kernel (or at least were for me using Ubuntu) so it really was a case of just inserting the thing |
| [21:28:08] | Dibblah: | Sky2 is also good. |
| [21:28:38] | sebo_: | Sky2 ? Is that a brand? |
| [21:29:03] | Dibblah: | "fake a CAM" in this instance meaning that the manufacturer doesn't have the option to bit-bang the CAM interface and pretend it _might_ function occasionally. |
| [21:29:07] | Dibblah: | Skystar 2. |
| [21:29:24] | sebo_: | ok I've found it. It's quite cheap |
| [21:30:02] | Dibblah: | The downside is the CI slot is an add-on, ISTR. |
| [21:30:51] | sebo_: | Dibblah: All well recognized with linux? |
| [21:31:03] | Dibblah: | Yes. |
| [21:31:07] | bradd: | i seemed to have fixed my issue by deleting the optical.xml file in .mythtv directory..fyi |
| [21:31:17] | bradd: | not sure where that came from in teh first place |
| [21:32:01] | sebo_: | SAA7148.. don't find anythig about it |
| [21:32:12] | bradd: | probably part of the mythdora default install |
| [21:32:46] | justinh: | bugger, time to RTFM on linuxish putty |
| [21:34:04] | justinh: | ah. there's no 'serial' connection type listed. wonder if ubuntu even makes the serial ports available to users |
| [21:35:21] | bradd: | im sure it does..are you using tip? |
| [21:35:37] | Yahooadam: | hmm ... how do you know where an application is saved? |
| [21:35:45] | justinh: | bradd: tip? |
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| [21:35:57] | Yahooadam: | like if you type mythtfrontend, how would you find out where mythtvfrontend is? |
| [21:36:25] | justinh: | Yahooadam: which |
| [21:36:32] | justinh: | Yahooadam: as in 'which mythfrontend' |
| [21:36:44] | Yahooadam: | cheers :) |
| [21:37:26] | bradd: | maybe modern OS's dont come with tip anymore. used to be the default serial comm app on most unix platforms |
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| [21:38:10] | dr_lulz: | i often use screen to talk to serial ports |
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| [21:38:31] | dr_lulz: | Yahooadam: your shell with look in the paths in your environtal var $PATH |
| [21:38:38] | dr_lulz: | usually /bin,/usr/bin etc |
| [21:38:40] | bradd: | i prefer tip or minicom |
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| [21:39:04] | Yahooadam: | justinh – you have to disable ubuntu's control over the serial ports |
| [21:39:21] | Yahooadam: | justinh – use setserial, but after that you have direct control over the serial ports |
| [21:40:01] | justinh: | what kind of retarded idea is that? |
| [21:40:45] | gbee: | justinh: most distros now do it automatically in the lircd startup scripts |
| [21:40:53] | portahex: | it's needed for lircing |
| [21:41:09] | justinh: | I don't have lirc on my backend :) |
| [21:41:31] | justinh: | and I didn't have to mess with setserial – just tested it with a loopback wire :) |
| [21:42:07] | Yahooadam: | depends what you want to do with the serial port |
| [21:42:21] | Yahooadam: | if you want direct control (like lirc demands) you have to disable OS control of the port |
| [21:42:32] | justinh: | only talk to my dvr |
| [21:42:36] | Yahooadam: | but if you just want to use the serial port, it should work fine out the box |
| [21:42:39] | flexy: | is there a reason why backend dies with too much "action", or is it because my current motherboard is PCI bandwidth limited? |
| [21:42:54] | Dibblah: | Yes and no. |
| [21:43:20] | Dibblah: | flexy: Run memtest. When that fails to show any problems, swear profusely. |
| [21:43:55] | Dibblah: | Run lm_sensors or similar, outputting to a log file with temperatures, to check for overheating. |
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| [21:44:14] | Dibblah: | Again, look up lexicon of foreign swearwords when that doesn't work. |
| [21:44:20] | Yahooadam: | not that memtest is definitive |
| [21:44:36] | justinh: | wtf? not getting any debug output from the dvr :- |
| [21:44:42] | sebo_: | Thank you all for your answers. Bye! |
| [21:44:44] | Dibblah: | Then replace part by part. |
| [21:45:11] | Dibblah: | You may have to start looking for made-up languages to swear in at this point. |
| [21:45:26] | justinh: | whee all worky |
| [21:45:34] | Dibblah: | dvr? |
| [21:45:42] | Yahooadam: | ugh |
| [21:45:44] | justinh: | I love knowing stuff the customers never get to find out about :) |
| [21:45:56] | justinh: | Dibblah: yeah a cctv dvr |
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| [21:46:13] | Yahooadam: | like what justinh ? |
| [21:46:31] | Dibblah: | justinh: Yeah, I've seen them on fleabay ;) |
| [21:47:28] | justinh: | http://www.dedicatedmicrosus.com/products/p_d4rs.asp |
| [21:48:20] | Dralid: | I have a regular PC that I'm considering transforming into a PVR using MythPC. I have cable television. I've read the MythTV documentation on the subject, but am finding it hard to digest. |
| [21:48:36] | justinh: | wtf is MythPC? |
| [21:48:48] | Dralid: | *MythTV |
| [21:48:51] | Dralid: | Sorry... |
| [21:49:01] | justinh: | Dralid: well, you're welcome to ask questions about stuff you've read that you didn't understand |
| [21:49:11] | Yahooadam: | kewl |
| [21:49:42] | Yahooadam: | Here at uni justinh, they have tuner cards that take in a full mux |
| [21:49:59] | Yahooadam: | they pump all of freview throughout Electronics and computer science |
| [21:50:13] | justinh: | Yahooadam: mythtv will be able to do that soon |
| [21:50:24] | justinh: | work with whole muxes |
| [21:50:45] | Yahooadam: | it doesnt sound amazingly hard |
| [21:50:58] | Yahooadam: | atm the tv tuner cuts out 1 channel, but you can bypass that in some cards and get the full mux |
| [21:51:08] | Dralid: | I need a TV Tuner card, of course. I read the phrase "reported to work" a few times in a few different places. Does that mean they work? or that after-slaving-over-them-for-months-tweaking-them they work? |
| [21:51:23] | Yahooadam: | depends on the card dralid |
| [21:51:24] | justinh: | Dralid: most tuners which work in linux should be a breeze in mythtv |
| [21:52:27] | Dralid: | Since I will be purchasing the card, is there a list of recommended cards somewhere that will reduce my hasle? |
| [21:52:45] | Yahooadam: | dralid, what country and what type of tv source? |
| [21:52:48] | justinh: | there are many tv tuner cards. there are few good ones |
| [21:52:53] | Yahooadam: | Like UK And DVB-T |
| [21:53:37] | Yahooadam: | sigh |
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| [21:53:52] | Yahooadam: | i spent the whole afternoon setting up rtorrent with rTWi and it doesnt bloody work |
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| [21:58:21] | Dralid: | USA. I could either do raw coaxial for basic cable, or composite from my cable box (but then I'd need an IR Blaster for fully automated control, right?) |
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| [21:58:40] | Yahooadam: | sounds about right ... |
| [21:58:56] | Yahooadam: | im not that wise on USA stuff, but i guess it depends if they use cablecard in your area |
| [22:00:27] | Savi1: | hi guys, does anyone have any idea of why my diseqc does not switch correctly? |
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| [22:01:04] | justinh: | Dralid: svideo is best for that |
| [22:01:26] | justinh: | Dralid: and FYI there's nothing worth having on FTA satellite in the US apparently |
| [22:01:50] | Dralid: | LOL, thanks. |
| [22:01:54] | justinh: | Yahooadam: and FYI multirec IS quite hard or it'd have been merged to trunk by now |
| [22:02:11] | justinh: | ;) |
| [22:03:55] | aschmack: | fta atsc might be worth your while though dralid |
| [22:04:34] | aschmack: | http://www.silicondust.com/wiki/hdhomerun/location_programs |
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| [22:06:34] | justinh: | so, seems firefox crashes the IP stack of my cctv dvr :( |
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| [22:07:45] | jb007-: | hey guys, what's up |
| [22:07:53] | jb007-: | i have a mythweb related question |
| [22:07:58] | Dralid: | Thanks, Aschmack, I had overlooked the upcoming digital TV change. |
| [22:08:44] | Yahooadam: | it cant be that hard if one guy in my uni managed to program it all by himself ;) |
| [22:08:45] | jb007-: | everything works with mythweb, but when i try to stream the recorded files (by clicking on the icon that produces the .asx files), i get an empty/zero byte asx file |
| [22:09:39] | jb007-: | can someone help me? |
| [22:09:55] | jb007-: | why are my .asx files zero byte (empty files) when they're created from mythweb? |
| [22:10:01] | jb007-: | i'm trying to stream recorded programs |
| [22:12:49] | jb007-: | anyone? |
| [22:13:40] | jb007-: | is anyone even around? |
| [22:13:47] | dr_lulz: | hrm, it works for me |
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| [22:14:03] | dr_lulz: | had a look at your webservers error log? |
| [22:14:06] | jb007-: | i wonder if it's a permissions issue of some sort |
| [22:14:12] | jb007-: | i don't see anything in the apache logs |
| [22:14:25] | jb007-: | i see up to here when i access toe "recordings" page |
| [22:15:06] | jb007-: | well, i just see a "GET" when i access the recording page |
| [22:15:17] | dr_lulz: | with 0b? |
| [22:15:58] | jb007-: | what you mean 0b? |
| [22:16:10] | dr_lulz: | 0 byte in apache log? |
| [22:16:14] | jb007-: | no no |
| [22:16:18] | jb007-: | you're confusing the whole thing |
| [22:16:27] | jb007-: | for apache, there is access_log and error_log |
| [22:16:44] | jb007-: | for the access_log, when I click on "Recorded Programs" in mythweb |
| [22:16:48] | jb007-: | i see activity |
| [22:17:09] | dr_lulz: | yeah |
| [22:17:17] | jb007-: | however, when i subsequently click on to get the asx stream for a particular recording, there is no activity (since it just exec a php script) |
| [22:17:38] | dr_lulz: | tehre should be "activity", cause a get request should be issued |
| [22:17:44] | jb007-: | when i click on it, instead of starting the asx file directly in a player, i say "save file as" |
| [22:18:24] | jb007-: | i save the 1115235626526.asx file (as an example) to my client side |
| [22:18:31] | jb007-: | and look at the contents of it |
| [22:18:36] | jb007-: | it should contain pointers |
| [22:18:40] | jb007-: | but it's an empty file instead |
| [22:18:53] | jb007-: | so do me a favor |
| [22:19:18] | jb007-: | click on the asx icon for one of the recordings, and instead of playing it, save it to your desktop and you should surely have a text/web file with info |
| [22:19:27] | jb007-: | (which isn't the case for me) |
| [22:19:54] | dr_lulz: | have you tried with another client? |
| [22:19:57] | dr_lulz: | i.e. curl or wget? |
| [22:20:27] | jb007-: | yeah, wget gets an empty 0 byte file as well |
| [22:20:44] | gbee: | http://miffteevee.co.uk/themes/metallurgy/metallurgy64.png _OR_ http://miffteevee.co.uk/imagebin/metallurgy_thinborder.png |
| [22:21:48] | jb007-: | nice theme gbee |
| [22:22:06] | jb007-: | dr_lulz: does your mythweb contain a pl/stream directory? |
| [22:22:08] | jb007-: | somewhere |
| [22:22:10] | jb007-: | can you check |
| [22:22:36] | dr_lulz: | no |
| [22:22:38] | dr_lulz: | and it doesnt have to |
| [22:22:43] | dr_lulz: | 141 RewriteRule ^(pl(/.*)?)$ mythweb.pl/$1 [QSA,L] |
| [22:22:54] | jb007-: | ok now for the rewrite rules |
| [22:23:02] | jb007-: | do i have to have an apache module |
| [22:23:03] | jb007-: | for it? |
| [22:23:10] | jb007-: | and if so, how can i check to see fi i have it or not |
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| [22:23:15] | dr_lulz: | mod_rewrite |
| [22:23:24] | gbee: | jb007-: thanks |
| [22:23:32] | dr_lulz: | idk, probably its needed fo running mythweb at all, but not sure |
| [22:23:43] | jb007-: | yeah, so i probably have it |
| [22:23:46] | jb007-: | but i just wanna be sure |
| [22:24:33] | jb007-: | so under mythweb/data i have cache and tv_icons, that's all |
| [22:24:47] | jb007-: | is that what you have |
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| [22:25:45] | black_Nightmare_: | hey |
| [22:25:59] | dr_lulz: | jb007-: is perl working properly? |
| [22:26:25] | dr_lulz: | are you absolutely sure there are no messsages in the error log? |
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| [22:28:09] | jb007-: | ok, iif i transcode it, i can see it in the web page itself |
| [22:28:16] | jb007-: | but that's probably flash |
| [22:28:22] | jb007-: | yes, no messages |
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| [22:31:09] | dr_lulz: | jb007-: hrm, i'm going to bed now, good luck fixing the problem – have a look at perl execution |
| [22:31:16] | dr_lulz: | and please tell me in case you found the problem |
| [22:32:34] | jb007-: | sure |
| [22:32:35] | jb007-: | will do |
| [22:32:38] | dr_lulz: | thanks |
| [22:32:40] | dr_lulz: | gnite |
| [22:32:43] | jb007-: | 'nite man |
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| [22:39:31] | levander: | Is there supposed to be an Overscan setting in nvidia-settings when I'm running 720p? I see it mentioned in the wiki that there won't be for 1080i, but it says nothing about 720p. |
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| [22:54:55] | BULLE: | levander: i dont think you get any overscan settings for 720p either |
| [22:56:26] | mzb_d800: | google gives me the impression that the M$ version of nvidia drivers+control can, but that linux version is missing underscan |
| [22:57:18] | levander: | BULLE: I'm trying to figure out what they're sayin about this on the mailing list. It kind of looks like they are saying to figure out a modeline that works. |
| [22:58:11] | mzb_d800: | get the videos right first, then adjust the gui to suit |
| [22:58:37] | mzb_d800: | shift +|- resize |
| [22:59:25] | levander: | mzb_d800: the video is right (at least it looks okay) |
| [22:59:39] | levander: | mzb_d800: hit 'shift +' where? |
| [22:59:54] | mzb_d800: | settings – appearance iirc |
| [23:00:19] | mzb_d800: | gui size, and gui offset |
| [23:01:07] | levander: | mzb_d800: Okay, the thing is, my whole X desktop is way off the sides of the screen, doing it that way inside MythTV, won't that just effect Myth, and not the rest of X? |
| [23:02:15] | mzb_d800: | you are saying that you have your X modes wrong? (ie. without Myth) |
| [23:02:36] | levander: | mzb_d800: yeah |
| [23:02:42] | levander: | mzb_d800: way off to side of screen |
| [23:02:47] | mzb_d800: | well fix that first |
| [23:02:49] | levander: | mzb_d800: way off both sides |
| [23:03:00] | levander: | mzb_d800: that's what i'm trying to figure out how to do |
| [23:03:12] | mzb_d800: | so it's nothing to do with myth? |
| [23:03:47] | levander: | mzb_d800: no, it has to do with the nvidia driver and tv out |
| [23:04:08] | mzb_d800: | which distro? what type of card? (version of the driver) .... etc |
| [23:04:57] | levander: | ubuntu, nvidia 6200, 100.14.19 |
| [23:05:36] | justinh: | hahaha finally got my cctv dvr viewable on my linux machine. such a shame I had to use ie6 under wine though :( |
| [23:05:36] | mzb_d800: | you'll find some excellent guides in the ubuntu wiki |
| [23:06:15] | justinh: | the catch phrase for mythtv-related stuff in the ubuntu wiki is "ubuntu community mythtv documentation" :) |
| [23:06:40] | mzb_d800: | no, I'm not talking about ubuntu+myth docs, but ubuntu+nvidia docs |
| [23:06:55] | justinh: | Ithink they link to them from the mythtv section IIRC |
| [23:07:02] | mzb_d800: | ok |
| [23:07:21] | levander: | well, it's more ubuntu+nvidia+tvout docs I'd need. I've never had this problem until started using TV out |
| [23:07:28] | justinh: | anyway that's kind of immaterial since you have no control over over/underscan on VGA or DVI out on nvidia cards |
| [23:07:55] | mzb_d800: | tv-out |
| [23:08:19] | justinh: | I saw 720p mentioned |
| [23:08:33] | justinh: | you're not gonna get 720p out of svideo or composite |
| [23:08:39] | mzb_d800: | yes, that confused me a little too |
| [23:08:43] | levander: | i'm getting it out of component |
| [23:08:57] | justinh: | levander: again, over/underscan settings won't affect it |
| [23:09:13] | levander: | justinh: so, where do I look to fix this? |
| [23:09:16] | justinh: | only svideo & composite since they're the only things that go through the TV encoder onboard AFAIK |
| [23:09:53] | levander: | justinh: only svideo & composite what? only those two are effected by overscan? |
| [23:09:58] | justinh: | if you really must insist on making the desktop fit the TV screen (which I wouldn't advise because TV is intended to be shown overscanned) then your only recourse is modelines |
| [23:10:14] | mzb_d800: | Option "TVOverscan" "0.8" |
| [23:10:36] | levander: | mzb_d800: Okay, cool. Now we're back into something I was looking into. |
| [23:10:38] | justinh: | in the nvidia driver, you can only control over/underscan of the svideo & composite outputs |
| [23:10:52] | justinh: | anything else needs modeline trickery |
| [23:11:22] | levander: | justinh: Oh wait, so TVOverScan won't work with component? |
| [23:11:31] | levander: | the TVOverScan option? |
| [23:11:40] | levander: | I'm getting lost because we're all talking at same time. |
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| [23:12:20] | mzb_d800: | http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x . . . pter-16.html |
| [23:12:20] | justinh: | just be forewarned that even if you do make the desktop fit the edges of your display, there's still a likelihood that TV will have artifacts at the edges, or black lines at the edges. that's because TVs overscan & people producing TV always assume they do |
| [23:12:42] | justinh: | levander: TVOverscan will only work with svideo & composite. I'm not saying it again |
| [23:12:57] | mzb_d800: | get the videos right first, then adjust the gui to suit |
| [23:12:58] | levander: | justinh: Fitting exactly I guess isn't important. But, I'm losing like 5% of my desktop off each side. |
| [23:13:06] | mzb_d800: | forget eveything else ;) |
| [23:13:08] | justinh: | levander: you're lucky it's only 5% |
| [23:13:20] | mzb_d800: | you use it for more than myth? shame ;) |
| [23:13:20] | levander: | justinh: I can't read some of the options in MythTV setup, because they're off the left side of the screen. |
| [23:13:40] | mzb_d800: | get the videos right first, then adjust the gui to suit !!!! |
| [23:13:43] | justinh: | so run it in a window |
| [23:13:51] | levander: | mzb_d800: I told you, the video looks okay. |
| [23:13:51] | justinh: | you can override stuff like this |
| [23:14:04] | justinh: | mythtv-setup -O geometry 800x600 |
| [23:14:10] | mzb_d800: | do you use this machine for more than myth? |
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| [23:14:47] | mzb_d800: | he doesn't want mythtv-setup, but the rest of your point is valid ;) |
| [23:15:12] | justinh: | ..."some of the options in MythTV setup" |
| [23:15:17] | levander: | mzb_d800: I don't know how much I'll use it for more than myth. I'm really just playing with it now, trying to get it to work good. It's still hooked up to my monitor (via component), I haven't hooked it up to my TV (via component) yet. And yes, I know. Hooking it up to my TV, I'll have to reconfigure monitor stuff. But, I just want to figure out how it all works first. |
| [23:16:08] | justinh: | and if some options are blatantly invisible in the setup menu screens I suspect there's more than 5% off the sides |
| [23:16:20] | levander: | justinh: yeah, it's bad. 5% is a guess |
| [23:16:31] | justinh: | xvidtune is usually worth a shot |
| [23:16:54] | justinh: | lets you adjust X settings. never found it worked for me but some do |
| [23:16:59] | mzb_d800: | xvidtune won't help with tv-out ... modelines make no difference |
| [23:17:00] | levander: | justinh: Running that mythtv-setup command sounds like too much a pain when I'm just sitting around watching TV and want to change something. Have to go find the keyboard... |
| [23:17:11] | justinh: | mzb_d800: it's not a 'tv out' as such though |
| [23:17:13] | levander: | mzb_d800: Modelines don't effect tv-out |
| [23:17:21] | levander: | justinh: why isn't it a tv out? |
| [23:17:25] | mzb_d800: | Utilities/Setup -> Setup -> Appearance -> Page 2 |
| [23:17:39] | justinh: | this is a supreme case of semantics at play ;) |
| [23:17:41] | levander: | mzb_d800: that last comment to you was a qustion, I forgot the ? on the end |
| [23:17:53] | justinh: | just because it's going to a TV doesn't mean the output is a 'tv out' |
| [23:18:01] | mzb_d800: | no, modelines do not work on tv-out |
| [23:18:05] | justinh: | what people usually mean by 'tv out' is svideo or composite |
| [23:18:09] | levander: | justinh: I'm using component, that's not tv-out? |
| [23:18:15] | mzb_d800: | ^^ what he said ;) |
| [23:18:17] | justinh: | it is and it isn't |
| [23:18:43] | levander: | Only composite and S-Video are TV-Out? |
| [23:18:45] | justinh: | put it this way, component isn't going through the card's tv encoder (AFAIK) |
| [23:18:47] | levander: | wtf |
| [23:19:25] | levander: | justinh: I will be going component when I put this in "production". How do I fix the size of the X destkop? |
| [23:19:27] | justinh: | I was specific before when I said TVOverScan only works for svideo & composite output |
| [23:19:45] | levander: | justinh: modelines? |
| [23:19:49] | justinh: | likewise, modelines will not affect svideo & composite output |
| [23:20:04] | levander: | justinh: But, they will effect component??! |
| [23:20:12] | mzb_d800: | marcus@loungetv:~$ grep "Assigned Display Devices" /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| [23:20:12] | mzb_d800: | (II) NVIDIA(0): Assigned Display Devices: CRT-0, TV-0 |
| [23:20:14] | justinh: | yes they should |
| [23:20:19] | levander: | beautiful |
| [23:20:23] | levander: | now i just need a modeline |
| [23:20:28] | levander: | what do I type in for the modelien? |
| [23:20:46] | justinh: | levander: first find a modeline database. the clue is the last 2 words of that sentence |
| [23:20:47] | mzb_d800: | use xvidtune ... like justinh said before |
| [23:21:08] | mzb_d800: | (once you've got it roughly right) |
| [23:21:08] | justinh: | it helps if you know the make/model of your TV – because then you might be able to find one just for your TV |
| [23:21:15] | levander: | mzb_d800: xvidtune isn't working on my component out, always says somethign about unsupported |
| [23:21:30] | justinh: | levander: like I said earlier it doesn't always work |
| [23:21:35] | mzb_d800: | hmm ... makes me think it *IS* encoded output |
| [23:21:51] | levander: | ah, so modelines are dependent upon the monitor! i was asking that the other day when people were throwing modelines at me |
| [23:22:04] | levander: | justinh: Wait, what doesn't always work? |
| [23:22:09] | mzb_d800: | either way ... also sounds like modelines will have no effect if you're unable to make adjustments with xvidtune |
| [23:22:15] | justinh: | xvidtune doesn't always work |
| [23:23:13] | justinh: | levander: what make/model is your TV? |
| [23:23:21] | mzb_d800: | levander: do the grep line above ^^^ |
| [23:23:42] | levander: | Here's my Xorg.0.log: |
| [23:23:42] | levander: | X Window System Version 1.3.0 |
| [23:23:42] | levander: | Release Date: 19 April 2007 |
| [23:23:42] | levander: | X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 1.3 |
| [23:23:47] | levander: | Build Operating System: Linux Ubuntu (xorg-server 2:1.3.0.0.dfsg-12ubuntu8) |
| [23:23:50] | levander: | Current Operating System: Linux bread 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Sun Oct 14 23:05:12 GMT 2007 i686 |
| [23:23:52] | levander: | Build Date: 29 September 2007 |
| [23:23:52] | justinh: | pastebin! |
| [23:23:53] | justinh: | pastebin! |
| [23:23:55] | levander: | Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org |
| [23:23:58] | levander: | to make sure that you have the latest version. |
| [23:24:02] | levander: | Module Loader present |
| [23:24:06] | levander: | Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, |
| [23:24:09] | levander: | (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, |
| [23:24:09] | levander: | (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. |
| [23:24:12] | levander: | (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Mon Nov 26 17:36:20 2007 |
| [23:24:15] | levander: | (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" |
| [23:24:20] | levander: | (==) ServerLayout "Default Layout" |
| [23:24:23] | levander: | (**) |-->Screen "Default Screen" (0) |
| [23:24:24] | mzb_d800: | levander: STOP |
| [23:24:26] | levander: | (**) | |-->Monitor "Television Monitor" |
| [23:24:30] | levander: | (**) | |-->Device "Television Device" |
| [23:24:33] | levander: | (**) |-->Input Device "Generic Keyboard" |
| [23:24:34] | levander: | (**) |-->Input Device "Configured Mouse" |
| [23:24:36] | ** justinh gives up ** | |
| [23:24:37] | levander: | (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic" does not exist. |
| [23:24:41] | levander: | Entry deleted from font path. |
| [23:24:43] | justinh: | g'night |
| [23:24:44] | levander: | (==) FontPath set to: |
| [23:24:47] | levander: | /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc, |
| [23:24:50] | levander: | /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled, |
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| [23:24:53] | levander: | /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled, |
| [23:24:54] | mzb_d800: | yep, time for something else |
| [23:24:56] | levander: | /usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1, |
| [23:25:00] | levander: | /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi, |
| [23:25:00] | levander: | /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi, |
| [23:25:06] | levander: | /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType |
| [23:25:09] | levander: | (==) RgbPath set to "/etc/X11/rgb" |
| [23:25:09] | levander: | (==) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib/xorg/modules" |
| [23:25:12] | levander: | (WW) Open ACPI failed (/var/run/acpid.socket) (No such file or directory) |
| [23:25:15] | levander: | (II) No APM support in BIOS or kernel |
| [23:25:19] | levander: | (II) Loader magic: 0x81ea440 |
| [23:25:22] | levander: | (II) Module ABI versions: |
| [23:25:25] | levander: | X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.3 |
| [23:25:28] | levander: | X.Org Video Driver: 1.2 |
| [23:25:31] | levander: | X.Org XInput driver : 0.7 |
| [23:25:36] | levander: | X.Org Server Extension : 0.3 |
| [23:25:39] | levander: | X.Org Font Renderer : 0.5 |
| [23:25:39] | levander: | (II) Loader running on linux |
| [23:25:42] | levander: | (II) LoadModule: "pcidata" |
| [23:25:42] | portahex: | cheers levander |
| [23:25:45] | levander: | (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libpcidata.so |
| [23:25:48] | levander: | (II) Module pcidata: vendor="X.Org Foundation" |
| [23:25:52] | levander: | compiled for 1.3.0, module version = 1.0.0 |
| [23:25:55] | levander: | ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 1.2 |
| [23:25:58] | levander: | (++) using VT number 8 |
| [23:26:01] | levander: | |
| [23:26:04] | levander: | (II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex) |
| [23:26:07] | portahex: | nothing makes me horny like 2500 line log files pasted in-channel |
| [23:26:07] | levander: | (II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 8086,7190 card 0000,0000 rev 03 class 06,00,00 hdr 00 |
| [23:26:10] | levander: | (II) PCI: 00:01:0: chip 8086,7191 card 0000,0000 rev 03 class 06,04,00 hdr 01 |
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| [23:26:13] | levander: | (II) PCI: 00:07:0: chip 8086,7110 card 0000,0000 rev 02 class 06,01,00 hdr 80 |
| [23:26:16] | levander: | (II) PCI: 00:07:1: chip 8086,7111 card 0000,0000 rev 01 class 01,01,80 hdr 00 |
| [23:26:20] | levander: | (II) PCI: 00:07:2: chip 8086,7112 card 0000,0000 rev 01 class 0c,03,00 hdr 00 |
| [23:26:23] | levander: | (II) PCI: 00:07:3: chip 8086,7113 card 0000,0000 rev 02 class 06,80,00 hdr 00 |
| [23:26:26] | levander: | (II) PCI: 00:0d:0: chip 3388,0021 card 0000,0000 rev 11 class 06,04,00 hdr 01 |
| [23:26:29] | levander: | (II) PCI: 00:0f:0: chip 1102,0002 card 1102,8027 rev 08 class 04,01,00 hdr 80 |
| [23:26:32] | levander: | (II) PCI: 00:0f:1: chip 1102,7002 card 1102,0020 rev 08 class 09,80,00 hdr 80 |
| [23:26:32] | portahex: | can someone just *tender loving* kick him please? |
| [23:26:36] | levander: | (II) PCI: 00:10:0: chip 1317,0985 card 1317,0574 rev 11 class 02,00,00 hdr 00 |
| [23:26:39] | levander: | (II) PCI: 01:00:0: chip 10de,0221 card 107d,2031 rev a1 class 03,00,00 hdr 00 |
| [23:26:39] | levander: | (II) PCI: 02:08:0: chip 4444,0016 card 0070,e807 rev 01 class 04,00,00 hdr 00 |
| [23:26:42] | levander: | (II) PCI: 02:09:0: chip 4444,0016 card 0070,e817 rev 01 class 04,00,00 hdr 00 |
| [23:26:45] | levander: | (II) PCI: End of PCI scan |
| [23:26:48] | levander: | (II) Host-to-PCI bridge: |
| [23:26:52] | levander: | (II) Bus 0: bridge is at (0:0:0), (0,0,2), BCTRL: 0x0008 (VGA_EN is set) |
| [23:26:55] | levander: | (II) Bus 0 I/O range: |
| [23:26:58] | levander: | [0] -1 0 0x00000000 – 0x0000ffff (0x10000) IX[B] |
| [23:26:59] | jk1joel: | so, http://pastebin.ca/ anyone? |
| [23:27:01] | levander: | (II) Bus 0 non-prefetchable memory range: |
| [23:27:06] | levander: | [0] -1 0 0x00000000 – 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B] |
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| [23:27:09] | levander: | (II) Bus 0 prefetchable memory range: |
| [23:27:09] | levander: | [0] -1 0 0x00000000 – 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B] |
| [23:27:12] | levander: | (II) PCI-to-PCI bridge: |
| [23:27:15] | levander: | (II) Bus 1: bridge is at (0:1:0), (0,1,1), BCTRL: 0x0088 (VGA_EN is set) |
| [23:27:18] | levander: | (II) Bus 1 I/O range: |
| [23:27:22] | levander: | [0] -1 0 0x0000c000 – 0x0000cfff (0x1000) IX[B] |
| [23:27:25] | levander: | (II) Bus 1 non-prefetchable memory range: |
| [23:27:28] | levander: | [0] -1 0 0xfa900000 – 0xfe9fffff (0x4100000) MX[B] |
| [23:27:30] | portahex: | justinh, he still has about 2 thousand lines to go |
| [23:27:31] | justinh: | mzb: I just checked & it seems component out modes are hard coded in the driver, so modelines prolly wont work |
| [23:27:32] | levander: | (II) Bus 1 prefetchable memory range: |
| [23:27:35] | RaYmAn-Bx: | levander: just /part or something |
| [23:27:36] | levander: | [0] -1 0 0xc2600000 – 0xe26fffff (0x20100000) MX[B] |
| [23:27:39] | levander: | (II) PCI-to-ISA bridge: |
| [23:27:39] | levander: | (II) Bus -1: bridge is at (0:7:0), (0,-1,-1), BCTRL: 0x0008 (VGA_EN is set) |
| [23:27:39] | justinh: | so that's me told! |
| [23:27:42] | levander: | (II) PCI-to-PCI bridge: |
| [23:27:45] | levander: | (II) Bus 2: bridge is at (0:13:0), (0,2,2), BCTRL: 0x0003 (VGA_EN is cleared) |
| [23:27:49] | levander: | (II) Bus 2 I/O range: |
| [23:27:52] | levander: | [0] -1 0 0x0000d000 – 0x0000dfff (0x1000) IX[B] |
| [23:27:55] | levander: | (II) Bus 2 non-prefetchable memory range: |
| [23:27:58] | levander: | [0] -1 0 0xfea00000 – 0xfeafffff (0x100000) MX[B] |
| [23:28:01] | levander: | (II) Bus 2 prefetchable memory range: |
| [23:28:06] | levander: | [0] -1 0 0xe2700000 – 0xf27fffff (0x10100000) MX[B] |
| [23:28:08] | justinh: | so if you got overscan on component, sucks for you! :D |
| [23:28:09] | levander: | (--) PCI:*(1:0:0) nVidia Corporation NV44A [GeForce 6200] rev 161, Mem @ 0xfd000000/24, 0xd0000000/28, 0xfc000000/24, BIOS @ 0xfe9e0000/17 |
| [23:28:09] | levander: | (--) PCI: (2:8:0) unknown vendor (0x4444) unknown chipset (0x0016) rev 1, Mem @ 0xec000000/26 |
| [23:28:12] | levander: | (--) PCI: (2:9:0) unknown vendor (0x4444) unknown chipset (0x0016) rev 1, Mem @ 0xe8000000/26 |
| [23:28:15] | levander: | (II) Addressable bus resource ranges are |
| [23:28:18] | levander: | [0] -1 0 0x00000000 – 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B] |
| [23:28:22] | levander: | [1] -1 0 0x00000000 – 0x0000ffff (0x10000) IX[B] |
| [23:28:25] | levander: | (II) OS-reported resource ranges: |
| [23:28:28] | levander: | [0] -1 0 0x00100000 – 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) |
| [23:28:31] | levander: | [1] -1 0 0x000f0000 – 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] |
| [23:28:36] | levander: | [2] -1 0 0x000c0000 – 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] |
| [23:28:39] | levander: | [3] -1 0 0x00000000 – 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] |
| [23:28:39] | levander: | [4] -1 0 0x0000ffff – 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] |
| [23:28:40] | justinh: | I'd rather he flood. at least it'd be over quick |
| [23:28:42] | levander: | [5] -1 0 0x00000000 – 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] |
| [23:28:45] | levander: | (II) PCI Memory resource overlap reduced 0xf4000000 from 0xf7ffffff to 0xf3ffffff |
| [23:28:46] | jk1joel: | really |
| [23:28:48] | levander: | (II) Active PCI resource ranges: |
| [23:28:52] | levander: | [0] -1 0 0xfebffc00 – 0xfebfffff (0x400) MX[B] |
| [23:28:55] | levander: | [1] -1 0 0xf4000000 – 0xf3ffffff (0x0) MX[B]O |
| [23:28:58] | portahex: | xchat's anti-flood protection, maybe? |
| [23:28:58] | levander: | [2] -1 0 0xe8000000 – 0xebffffff (0x4000000) MX[B](B) |
| [23:29:01] | levander: | [3] -1 0 0xec000000 – 0xefffffff (0x4000000) MX[B](B) |
| [23:29:05] | justinh: | they should ban it |
| [23:29:06] | levander: | [4] -1 0 0xfe9e0000 – 0xfe9fffff (0x20000) MX[B](B) |
| [23:29:07] | levander: | [5] -1 0 0xfc000000 – 0xfcffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B) |
| [23:29:09] | portahex: | know anyone who can kick him off freenode? |
| [23:29:10] | levander: | [6] -1 0 0xd0000000 – 0xdfffffff (0x10000000) MX[B](B) |
| [23:29:12] | justinh: | more annoying than floods |
| [23:29:13] | levander: | [7] -1 0 0xfd000000 – 0xfdffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B) |
| [23:29:16] | levander: | [8] -1 0 0x0000e800 – 0x0000e8ff (0x100) IX[B] |
| [23:29:19] | portahex: | my contact isn't being very awake right now |
| [23:29:19] | levander: | [9] -1 0 0x0000eff0 – 0x0000eff7 (0x8) IX[B] |
| [23:29:23] | levander: | [10] -1 0 0x0000ef80 – 0x0000ef9f (0x20) IX[B] |
| [23:29:26] | levander: | [11] -1 0 0x0000ef40 – 0x0000ef5f (0x20) IX[B] |
| [23:29:26] | justinh: | portahex: me, a while ago. I handed my badge back |
| [23:29:29] | levander: | [12] -1 0 0x0000ffa0 – 0x0000ffaf (0x10) IX[B] |
| [23:29:32] | levander: | (II) Active PCI resource ranges after removing overlaps: |
| [23:29:36] | levander: | [0] -1 0 0xfebffc00 – 0xfebfffff (0x400) MX[B] |
| [23:29:39] | levander: | [1] -1 0 0xf4000000 – 0xf3ffffff (0x0) MX[B]O |
| [23:29:39] | levander: | [2] -1 0 0xe8000000 – 0xebffffff (0x4000000) MX[B](B) |
| [23:29:42] | levander: | [3] -1 0 0xec000000 – 0xefffffff (0x4000000) MX[B](B) |
| [23:29:43] | justinh: | such responsibility needs a safe pair of hands, which I am not |
| [23:29:44] | jk1joel: | justinh: too much work? |
| [23:29:45] | levander: | [4] -1 0 0xfe9e0000 – 0xfe9fffff (0x20000) MX[B](B) |
| [23:29:49] | levander: | [5] -1 0 0xfc000000 – 0xfcffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B) |
| [23:29:52] | levander: | [6] -1 0 0xd0000000 – 0xdfffffff (0x10000000) MX[B](B) |
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| [23:29:56] | levander: | [7] -1 0 0xfd000000 – 0xfdffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B) |
| [23:29:59] | levander: | [8] -1 0 0x0000e800 – 0x0000e8ff (0x100) IX[B] |
| [23:30:02] | levander: | [9] -1 0 0x0000eff0 – 0x0000eff7 (0x8) IX[B] |
| [23:30:06] | levander: | [10] -1 0 0x0000ef80 – 0x0000ef9f (0x20) IX[B] |
| [23:30:09] | levander: | [11] -1 0 0x0000ef40 – 0x0000ef5f (0x20) IX[B] |
| [23:30:09] | levander: | [12] -1 0 0x0000ffa0 – 0x0000ffaf (0x10) IX[B] |
| [23:30:11] | justinh: | right I only came in to say I checked & found I was wrong, so I'm off |
| [23:30:12] | levander: | (II) OS-reported resource ranges after removing overlaps with PCI: |
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| [23:30:15] | levander: | [0] -1 0 0x00100000 – 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) |
| [23:30:18] | levander: | [1] -1 0 0x000f0000 – 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] |
| [23:30:22] | levander: | [2] -1 0 0x000c0000 – 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] |
| [23:30:25] | levander: | [3] -1 0 0x00000000 – 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] |
| [23:30:28] | levander: | [4] -1 0 0x0000ffff – 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] |
| [23:30:31] | levander: | [5] -1 0 0x00000000 – 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] |
| [23:30:36] | levander: | (II) All system resource ranges: |
| [23:30:39] | levander: | [0] -1 0 0x00100000 – 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) |
| [23:30:39] | levander: | [1] -1 0 0x000f0000 – 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] |
| [23:30:42] | levander: | [2] -1 0 0x000c0000 – 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] |
| [23:30:45] | levander: | [3] -1 0 0x00000000 – 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] |
| [23:30:48] | levander: | [4] -1 0 0xfebffc00 – 0xfebfffff (0x400) MX[B] |
| [23:30:52] | levander: | [5] -1 0 0xf4000000 – 0xf3ffffff (0x0) MX[B]O |
| [23:30:55] | levander: | [6] -1 0 0xe8000000 – 0xebffffff (0x4000000) MX[B](B) |
| [23:30:58] | DustyBin: | levander: stop spamming the channel you silly sod, use a paste board |
| [23:30:58] | levander: | [7] -1 0 0xec000000 – 0xefffffff (0x4000000) MX[B](B) |
| [23:31:01] | levander: | [8] -1 0 0xfe9e0000 – 0xfe9fffff (0x20000) MX[B](B) |
| [23:31:06] | levander: | [9] -1 0 0xfc000000 – 0xfcffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B) |
| [23:31:09] | levander: | [10] -1 0 0xd0000000 – 0xdfffffff (0x10000000) MX[B](B) |
| [23:31:09] | levander: | [11] -1 0 0xfd000000 – 0xfdffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B) |
| [23:31:12] | levander: | [12] -1 0 0x0000ffff – 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] |
| [23:31:17] | levander: | [13] -1 0 0x00000000 – 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] |
| [23:31:20] | levander: | [14] -1 0 0x0000e800 – 0x0000e8ff (0x100) IX[B] |
| [23:31:23] | levander: | [15] -1 0 0x0000eff0 – 0x0000eff7 (0x8) IX[B] |
| [23:31:27] | levander: | [16] -1 0 0x0000ef80 – 0x0000ef9f (0x20) IX[B] |
| [23:31:27] | bsdfox__: | lol |
| [23:31:30] | levander: | [17] -1 0 0x0000ef40 – 0x0000ef5f (0x20) IX[B] |
| [23:31:30] | levander: | [18] -1 0 0x0000ffa0 – 0x0000ffaf (0x10) IX[B] |
| [23:31:36] | levander: | (II) LoadModule: "extmod" |
| [23:31:39] | levander: | (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libextmod.so |
| [23:31:39] | levander: | (II) Module extmod: vendor="X.Org Foundation" |
| [23:31:42] | levander: | compiled for 1.3.0, module version = 1.0.0 |
| [23:31:45] | levander: | Module class: X.Org Server Extension |
| [23:31:49] | levander: | ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.3 |
| [23:31:52] | levander: | (II) Loading extension SHAPE |
| [23:31:55] | levander: | (II) Loading extension MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD |
| [23:31:58] | levander: | (II) Loading extension BIG-REQUESTS |
| [23:32:01] | levander: | (II) Loading extension SYNC |
| [23:32:06] | levander: | (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER |
| [23:32:09] | levander: | (II) Loading extension XC-MISC |
| [23:32:09] | levander: | (II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension |
| [23:32:12] | levander: | (II) Loading extension XFree86-Misc |
| [23:32:15] | levander: | (II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA |
| [23:32:18] | levander: | (II) Loading extension DPMS |
| [23:32:22] | levander: | (II) Loading extension TOG-CUP |
| [23:32:25] | levander: | (II) Loading extension Extended-Visual-Information |
| [23:32:28] | levander: | (II) Loading extension XVideo |
| [23:32:31] | levander: | (II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation |
| [23:32:36] | levander: | (II) Loading extension X-Resource |
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| [23:32:39] | levander: | (II) LoadModule: "dbe" |
| [23:32:39] | levander: | (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdbe.so |
| [23:32:42] | levander: | (II) Module dbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation" |
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| [23:32:54] | jk1joel: | thank you! |
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| [23:37:02] | dserban: | wow lol |
| [23:37:23] | cmoates: | glad I wasn't here for that in real time ;) |
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| [23:37:44] | bsdfox__: | what a noob |
| [23:39:08] | portahex: | took your *tender loving* time, kormoc! |
| [23:39:27] | kormoc: | portahex, heh, sorry, I wasn't paying too much attention |
| [23:39:40] | kormoc: | portahex, feel free to say my name in the future and I'll likely look over this way sooner |
| [23:40:02] | portahex: | so someone should add a !ops command to MythLogBot for these situations! |
| [23:40:22] | Lunar_Lamp: | I have a series of shows that I want to record, that are one twice per week. I have set up them to record, and they have worked previously, however, looking ahead in teh recording shcedule, from next week there is an error associated with each one: "Too many recordings of this program have already been recorded" |
| [23:40:30] | Lunar_Lamp: | How do I circumvent that? |
| [23:40:39] | cmoates: | it's in your storage options |
| [23:40:54] | portahex: | hm, watercooled motherboard from msi |
| [23:41:09] | Lunar_Lamp: | Is that configured in the frontend or backend cmoates? |
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| [23:41:13] | cmoates: | You probably have something in the rules right now, like, "Record up to 5 of this show" and "Don't record new ones if I already have enough" instead of "get rid of the oldest ones if there are new ones |
| [23:41:16] | cmoates: | It's in the scheduler |
| [23:41:23] | Lunar_Lamp: | Oh, ok |
| [23:41:26] | cmoates: | manage recordings, pick the recording, and look at the storage options |
| [23:42:46] | Lunar_Lamp: | OK, thanks cmoates |
| [23:42:55] | cmoates: | np |
| [23:43:25] | Lunar_Lamp: | (I seem to have a lot of recordings of similar rules |
| [23:43:29] | mzb_d800: | pointer: hydrogen looks cool |
| [23:43:55] | cmoates: | I think it might be the default behavior, Lunar_Lamp, I had that problem once upon a time |
| [23:43:59] | Lunar_Lamp: | So I think that might be causing part of the issues, but I don't have the options to configure the storage options via the web frontend, so I'll wait until tomorrow. |
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| [23:46:50] | mzb_d800: | s/pointer/portahex |
| [23:47:16] | mzb_d800: | but at au$350 just for the X38, I can't say I'm THAT interested ;) |
| [23:48:36] | Lunar_Lamp: | cmoates, I would hope it's not the default behaviour to be honest :-/ |
| [23:48:48] | cmoates: | Delete shows once you've watched them? :) |
| [23:49:20] | Lunar_Lamp: | cmoates, I could do that, but that requires effort etc ;-) |
| [23:49:21] | mzb_d800: | or transcode them |
| [23:49:23] | cmoates: | But yes, I prefer the "roll off the oldest to make room for the newest" behavior |
| [23:49:32] | mzb_d800: | (or both) |
| [23:49:38] | Lunar_Lamp: | Transcoding, i concede, i should be doing. |
| [23:49:51] | Lunar_Lamp: | I just somehow never got around to configuring it and space isn't an issue at the moment. |
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| [23:53:04] | Lunar_Lamp: | Still, at least having to play around with the mythtv box again means I finally got around to automating the backups of the database :-/ |
| [23:54:51] | mzb: | well, I've managed to get mytharchive (mythburn.py) to do partly what I want ... I can burn a dvd of a recording that hasn't been transcoded |
| [23:55:21] | mzb: | however, I've not been able to do transcoded recordings, or anything in the video dir |
| [23:55:55] | mzb: | ... without a) b0rk or b) audio sync issues |
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| [23:59:35] | mzb: | "mythtranscode --mpeg2" usually fails on the edited (mpeg2) videos |
| [23:59:51] | mzb: | (but editing is now redundant ... so not a big deal) |
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