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| [00:00:07] | directhex: | the download site was atikehack.foo.bar |
| [00:00:15] | BULLE: | ye |
| [00:01:19] | my2keh: | uhh huh |
| [00:01:30] | my2keh: | damn mythtv password heh |
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| [00:04:07] | BULLE: | my2keh: any idea how they gained access to your mythbox ? |
| [00:04:19] | BULLE: | my2keh: if so, i would say, whipe it clean, reinstall, fix the issue |
| [00:04:21] | BULLE: | my2keh: be happy |
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| [00:04:34] | my2keh: | yeah, I will whipe it clean |
| [00:04:36] | my2keh: | just not right now |
| [00:04:38] | mzb: | googling for atikehack shows similar tools |
| [00:05:03] | mzb: | suck, hack, brute |
| [00:05:35] | mzb: | a luser gone to the dark side? :) |
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| [00:06:48] | xamindar: | directhex, huh? |
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| [00:06:58] | xamindar: | directhex, i didn't way anything |
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| [00:07:10] | directhex: | sorry, that was for xanderp, who disappeared |
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| [00:31:28] | djbeenie: | can someone help me find what LIRC I have? I bought a WinTV PVR 150. |
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| [00:36:41] | AL13N: | i can't get my lirc to work with mythtv (it works for xine) even though i have .mythtv/lircrc configured . also playing a movie lists no movies found, even though i configured the pathname |
| [00:36:46] | AL13N: | what am i doing wrong? |
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| [00:39:42] | AL13N: | and is it possible to have another box with tuner to start a mythbackend too, and combine it into that one frontend? |
| [00:40:29] | directhex: | AL13N, yes, it's called a slave backend |
| [00:40:48] | Tanthrix: | Hrm. Just got a hard lockup on my myth system. |
| [00:40:55] | directhex: | AL13N, it's specifically supported by myth |
| [00:41:01] | directhex: | Tanthrix, what ethernet controller? |
| [00:41:30] | AL13N: | cool |
| [00:42:14] | AL13N: | so i can record 2 different channels at the same time, or watch one and record from another |
| [00:42:23] | Tanthrix: | directhex: RTL8139 card I stuck in, I think. (The onboard one was some new fangled one that was causing my relatively consistent lockups) |
| [00:43:13] | fryfrog: | AL13N: sure, *or* if you wanted, you could put 4 tuners in *one* backend |
| [00:43:14] | directhex: | AL13N, indeed. or put the multiple tuners in 1 box. whatever's easiest for you |
| [00:43:16] | Tanthrix: | This is the first lockup I've ever had, excusing the initial ones 6 months ago that I had during setup. |
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| [00:43:34] | AL13N: | interesting |
| [00:43:45] | directhex: | Tanthrix, the "new fangled" one. syskonnect yukon 2 (sky2.ko)? |
| [00:44:09] | fryfrog: | you are really only limited by hard drive bandwidth, pci bus bandwidth and/or network bandwidth to how many tuners you stick in one box :) |
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| [00:44:41] | AL13N: | any ideas why mythmovie doesn't find any files? |
| [00:44:56] | AL13N: | path seems ok, and i configured to show unknown filetypes as well |
| [00:45:11] | fryfrog: | er, how do you get to mythmovie? |
| [00:45:25] | Tanthrix: | directhex: No, Realtek RTL8211BL |
| [00:45:32] | fryfrog: | do you need to *not* use mythvideo? |
| [00:45:59] | fryfrog: | and wtf is mythmovie? |
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| [00:52:07] | djbeenie: | can someone help me find what LIRC I have? I bought a WinTV PVR 150. I have tried mceusb and mceusb2 |
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| [01:02:41] | AL13N: | fryfrog: maybe it's called something else: it's when i (in the frontend) choose "play movie" |
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| [01:03:02] | a1fa: | has anyone come up with the way to bring netflix instant movies to mythtv? |
| [01:03:15] | iamlindoro: | No, it's all DRM'd |
| [01:03:24] | iamlindoro: | You can't even make them work on a mac, let alone linux |
| [01:03:27] | fryfrog: | i suspect netflix would send a C & D shortly after |
| [01:03:36] | a1fa: | its a flash player |
| [01:03:38] | a1fa: | isnt it? |
| [01:04:06] | AL13N: | in the settings it has a path which is default /share/Movies or something |
| [01:04:11] | iamlindoro: | Not per my understanding... There was a fairly good discussion of it at daringfireball.net a few weeks ago |
| [01:05:11] | a1fa: | i am also tempted to buy apple-tv and load mythtv on it |
| [01:05:35] | iamlindoro: | Will play like a dog if you do... slooooow system |
| [01:05:42] | directhex: | low spec, no optical drive |
| [01:05:47] | directhex: | mac mini is another matter |
| [01:06:15] | a1fa: | oh |
| [01:06:26] | a1fa: | its some activex crap |
| [01:06:30] | a1fa: | what will play slow? |
| [01:06:40] | a1fa: | i want mythtv-frontend on it |
| [01:06:40] | iamlindoro: | Anything you play on an appletv |
| [01:06:42] | a1fa: | nothing else |
| [01:06:50] | iamlindoro: | too slow, it's like a 266 mhx proc |
| [01:06:58] | directhex: | iamlindoro, erm, no, it's not |
| [01:07:03] | directhex: | it's a ~1ghz pentium-m |
| [01:07:14] | iamlindoro: | ah well, still too slow |
| [01:07:18] | a1fa: | lol |
| [01:07:20] | a1fa: | u are crazy |
| [01:07:40] | a1fa: | its fast enough |
| [01:07:50] | directhex: | a1fa, for SD, probably |
| [01:08:01] | directhex: | a1fa, the lack of optical drive is a real downer for me, though |
| [01:08:38] | directhex: | 256mb ram isn't much though. not for a decent myth theme |
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| [01:08:52] | iamlindoro: | Ah, it's 1 Ghz, but it's underclocked |
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| [01:11:24] | iamlindoro: | Who knows to what, though |
| [01:11:50] | xanderp: | I need to manually remove an entry from my 'recorded programs' that won't delete, help please! |
| [01:12:08] | AL13N: | can anyone give me a searchstring for lirc in the mailinglist, i did configure it, until the logs didn't complain about it anymore... |
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| [01:13:16] | iamlindoro: | xanderp, does the file still exist? |
| [01:13:42] | xanderp: | looks like it. I see the filename that mythweb lists in the tv recordings directory. |
| [01:14:07] | AL13N: | does mythtv uses lircd or the character file directly? |
| [01:14:21] | iamlindoro: | OK, and you have tried to delete it through mythweb and mythfrontend? |
| [01:14:33] | xanderp: | yes, both ways.. no luck |
| [01:14:43] | iamlindoro: | What's in the log when you try? |
| [01:15:42] | xanderp: | ERROR retrieving program info when trying to delete program for chanid 1062 recorded at Sun Feb 7 01:28:15 2106. Recording will NOT be deleted. |
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| [01:16:15] | AL13N: | I REALLY need help about lirc, i mean: the whole mailinglist is filled with people trying to get lirc to work!!! but mine already works with xine and irexec and i have already configured it in ~/.mythtv/lircrc |
| [01:16:25] | xanderp: | which does not line up with the program info listed in mythfrontend... the date/time is wrong |
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| [01:16:52] | iamlindoro: | xanderp, have you run mysqlcheck against your db? |
| [01:16:55] | xanderp: | lemme try again to make sure I'm looking at the correct log entry |
| [01:17:06] | iamlindoro: | that is, stop mythbackend and run |
| [01:17:17] | iamlindoro: | mysqlcheck -umythtv -p mythconverg |
| [01:17:57] | xanderp: | no i haven't. I can't do that right now as I'm recording a show. |
| [01:18:16] | iamlindoro: | Whelp, then there's not much we can do until you are able to work on the system |
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| [01:19:15] | xanderp: | I canceled the recording... It will probably be repeated. Will try the database check |
| [01:19:28] | iamlindoro: | ok |
| [01:19:46] | iamlindoro: | make sure to stop mythbackend |
| [01:20:48] | AL13N: | is there any way i can get more info on lirc output? |
| [01:20:55] | xanderp: | getting 'you forgot to give the arguments' |
| [01:21:44] | iamlindoro: | mysqlcheck -r mythconverg |
| [01:22:00] | BULLE: | AL13N: what do you mean with "lirc output" ? |
| [01:22:12] | BULLE: | AL13N: lirc outputs whatever you config it to outpu in the lircrc |
| [01:22:23] | BULLE: | AL13N: to the program / programs you tell it to output to |
| [01:22:35] | iamlindoro: | or even mysqlcheck -r -umythtv -p mythconverg |
| [01:23:33] | godzirra: | So there's nothing that suggests new shows you might like on MythTV? (similar to Tivo's suggestions?) |
| [01:23:45] | AL13N: | BULLE: i mean, lirc from mythfrontend is not working and i see no logs, or even no indication that .mythtv/lircrc is being used |
| [01:24:00] | AL13N: | documentation is even wrong in any case |
| [01:24:16] | a1fa: | trick or treat |
| [01:24:20] | BULLE: | AL13N: what do you mean with documentation is even wrong in any case ? |
| [01:24:22] | AL13N: | some list that it should be at ~/.lircrc and some that it should be at ~/.mythtv/lircrc ... |
| [01:24:32] | a1fa: | we jus thad some trick or treaters |
| [01:24:32] | a1fa: | :P |
| [01:24:40] | AL13N: | i mean, if it used irxevent, it should be at ~/.lircrc |
| [01:24:53] | AL13N: | or am i wrong? |
| [01:25:25] | BULLE: | AL13N: depends on where irxevent checks for the lircrc i think |
| [01:25:35] | AL13N: | does mythfrontend chroot itself or drop privileges to another user? |
| [01:25:36] | BULLE: | simple strace of irxevent should tell you |
| [01:25:47] | BULLE: | AL13N: that is distribution dependent |
| [01:26:03] | AL13N: | BULLE: i'm starting it manually |
| [01:26:17] | AL13N: | thus, no |
| [01:26:17] | BULLE: | AL13N: shouldnt change user then i would think, but im not sure |
| [01:26:46] | AL13N: | BULLE: how do i get mythfrontend to execute a strace irxevent instead of irxevent? |
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| [01:26:51] | BULLE: | just start mythfrontend and use lsof to see what program actualy grabs the lirc device ? |
| [01:27:04] | AL13N: | cause man page of irxevent says it's at ~/.lircrc |
| [01:27:11] | AL13N: | hmm |
| [01:27:11] | BULLE: | AL13N: you dont need to run mythfrontend to run strace irxevent |
| [01:27:19] | xanderp: | i can't get into my mysqlcheck... tried mythtv and root, getting access denied |
| [01:27:37] | xanderp: | i also can't su to mythtv, and can't ssh in as mythtv |
| [01:27:40] | BULLE: | AL13N: strace is just running irxevent, and will dump all system calls the program does |
| [01:27:57] | BULLE: | xanderp: check logs, there should be log entries about failed logins |
| [01:28:05] | AL13N: | BULLE: i mean, if irxevent is useing ~/.lircrc maybe mythtv is giving options to irxevent |
| [01:28:30] | xanderp: | apparently my backend doesn't have a mythtv user? when I do users it only lists root... odd, I would have been certain that it did... |
| [01:28:46] | BULLE: | xanderp: that is distribution dependent afaik |
| [01:28:56] | BULLE: | xanderp: i think my mythbackend runs as root, and i use fedora |
| [01:29:51] | xanderp: | this on is fc6 |
| [01:30:01] | AL13N: | BULLE: well lsof shows that lircd is using /dev/lirc/0 and /dev/lircd as well |
| [01:32:43] | AL13N: | when xine is ran, it isn't listed either |
| [01:33:03] | AL13N: | which makes sense since it's connecting to lircd socket |
| [01:33:11] | AL13N: | same as irxevent |
| [01:33:22] | BULLE: | to be honest i dont know what to tell you |
| [01:33:26] | BULLE: | i never used irxevent myself |
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| [01:33:32] | AL13N: | me neither |
| [01:33:39] | BULLE: | i just tossed the .lircrc file there, and mythv worked out of the box |
| [01:33:44] | BULLE: | no need for irxevent or similar stuff |
| [01:33:45] | AL13N: | but mythtv uses it internally |
| [01:33:56] | AL13N: | where did you put? |
| [01:33:57] | AL13N: | it? |
| [01:34:11] | AL13N: | ~/.lircrc or ~/.mythtv/lircrc |
| [01:34:12] | AL13N: | ? |
| [01:34:29] | BULLE: | he, seems i have both apparently =D |
| [01:34:45] | BULLE: | and both are identical |
| [01:34:51] | BULLE: | one is just a hardlink to the other |
| [01:35:02] | AL13N: | hmm |
| [01:35:05] | BULLE: | so i guess i just gave up and hardlinked them, so they will be identical |
| [01:35:11] | ** AL13N sighs ** | |
| [01:35:19] | BULLE: | just hardlink! |
| [01:35:20] | AL13N: | thanks for the help |
| [01:35:52] | BULLE: | ha, i lied |
| [01:35:55] | BULLE: | its even worse =D |
| [01:36:34] | BULLE: | my ~/.lircrc is a softlink to ~/.mplayer/lircrc that is a softlink to ~/.mythtv/lircrc |
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| [01:36:58] | xanderp: | damn... mysql user/pass is not a system account, just a mysql account, I got it to do mysqlcheck -r, everything lists OK |
| [01:37:14] | BULLE: | xanderp: yes, mysql has its own user setup, it doesnt rely on pam |
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| [01:37:27] | BULLE: | xanderp: so there is no simple 1:1 mapping between unix users and mysql users |
| [01:37:33] | xanderp: | I ran the mysqlcheck and it looks clean. |
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| [01:38:32] | iamlindoro: | Hmm, have you changed your channel names or numbers since you recorded? |
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| [01:39:05] | xanderp: | don't think so. it says this: GetRecordBasename found no entry |
| [01:39:05] | xanderp: | 2007-10–31 21:38:09.866 ERROR retrieving program info when trying to delete program for chanid 1062 recorded at Sun Feb 7 01:28:15 2106. Recording will NOT be deleted. |
| [01:40:58] | iamlindoro: | do a mysql -u mythtv -p mythconverg |
| [01:41:02] | iamlindoro: | and try this: |
| [01:41:56] | iamlindoro: | SELECT basename FROM recorded WHERE chanid = '1062' ; |
| [01:42:07] | iamlindoro: | and pastebin the output |
| [01:42:55] | iamlindoro: | Xander, you are running only a single myth system, right? Not trying to delete from a remote frontend? |
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| [01:43:21] | xanderp: | http://pastebin.com/m56e09991 |
| [01:43:47] | xanderp: | it is a separate frontend yes, but I delete from it all the time... just this one show is having problems. |
| [01:44:12] | xanderp: | the .avi is the show i'm trying to remove |
| [01:44:31] | iamlindoro: | Your problem isn't the frontend, it's the recording... the time/date are somehow bad |
| [01:45:04] | iamlindoro: | Errrrrm, did you actually record this in 2002?? |
| [01:45:30] | xand: | O.O |
| [01:45:39] | xanderp: | and that file does exist. it was imported. I use 2002 to import shows so that i don't conflict with current recordings. |
| [01:45:49] | iamlindoro: | Well that's why |
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| [01:46:23] | iamlindoro: | myth is confused by the date... the GetRecordBasename is getting hung up on a date it doesn't consider "good." |
| [01:47:02] | iamlindoro: | At least, that's what others with similar problems seem to conclude |
| [01:47:16] | jandshog: | hello, i'm having problems delete shows from frontend. I delete and confirm deletion, than moments later the program reappears on the list. |
| [01:48:06] | xanderp: | odd... I imported all of the enterprise episodes and watched and deleted them one at a time. this is the only one that is left and won't delete |
| [01:48:20] | ZoneClone: | does anyone know what could cause wavy lines like this: http://tinyurl.com/2bndz6 (4MB MPEG). Definitely happens during record, not playback. I upgraded from 0.18 to 0.20.2 and it was working fine for a while. The only problem with the upgrade other than this is that the card isn't tuned to the right channel on startup, I have to use ptune.pl to tune it on reboot. |
| [01:48:35] | ZoneClone: | PVR-350 BTW |
| [01:49:00] | iamlindoro: | Xander, take a look at this... looks like you are in for some manual db editing: http://www.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/ . . . /173084.html |
| [01:50:10] | djbeenie: | can someone help me find what LIRC I have? I bought a WinTV PVR 150. I have tried mceusb and mceusb2 |
| [01:50:22] | xanderp: | thanks for the link |
| [01:51:17] | iamlindoro: | djbeenie, those are correct if you have the pvr-150 mce... is yours the remote directly out of the card? |
| [01:51:27] | iamlindoro: | or the grey USB receiver? |
| [01:51:53] | djbeenie: | iamlindoro: its usb |
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| [01:52:07] | iamlindoro: | Grey with two ir blaster ports? that's mceusb2 |
| [01:52:43] | djbeenie: | iamlindoro: its black usb reciever..with an optional IR blaster comming from the mini reciever |
| [01:52:58] | djbeenie: | im sorry yes two ir blaster ports |
| [01:53:10] | iamlindoro: | Black in front, grey body though, right? |
| [01:53:19] | iamlindoro: | Says SMK on the bottom |
| [01:53:54] | djbeenie: | actually its black |
| [01:54:09] | djbeenie: | it says TSES-IR01 |
| [01:54:17] | iamlindoro: | ah, well, dunno about that one, but if you got the PVR-150 MCE, LIRC module is mceusb2 |
| [01:54:22] | iamlindoro: | did you buy this second hand, or new? |
| [01:54:37] | djbeenie: | it came with my MCE 150 |
| [01:55:11] | djbeenie: | on the box it shows the black and grey box your talking about |
| [01:55:48] | djbeenie: | ok so its the mceusb2... i got the module to load... but its not talking when I use the irw command |
| [01:55:57] | iamlindoro: | Hmm... well, may be a new model I don't know about... What does lsusb say about the device? |
| [01:56:12] | iamlindoro: | Have you set up your lircd.conf properly? |
| [01:56:20] | iamlindoro: | 'cause you won't get anything from irw until you do |
| [01:56:33] | djbeenie: | oh ok |
| [01:56:41] | iamlindoro: | try mode2 and press some button |
| [01:56:45] | djbeenie: | im not sure about lircd.conf |
| [01:56:51] | iamlindoro: | that will confirm the remote/receiver are working |
| [01:57:00] | djbeenie: | type mode2? |
| [01:57:01] | iamlindoro: | if they are, your problem is lircd.conf |
| [01:57:08] | iamlindoro: | yes |
| [01:57:19] | djbeenie: | oh wow its going nuts |
| [01:57:24] | iamlindoro: | Then it's fine |
| [01:57:31] | iamlindoro: | fix your lircd.conf |
| [01:57:36] | iamlindoro: | and irw will work |
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| [01:59:27] | djbeenie: | is that /etc/lircd.conf ? |
| [01:59:35] | iamlindoro: | depends on your distro, but probably |
| [01:59:48] | iamlindoro: | I assume you are reading a howto, that ought to guide you through it |
| [02:00:01] | djbeenie: | is there a template i can copy down for my remote? |
| [02:00:10] | djbeenie: | yeah i am |
| [02:00:32] | iamlindoro: | OK, so that should have a link to one that will work for your remote, otherwise you can find one at lirc.org |
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| [02:01:44] | jeffery: | where does myth-setup store the config on the file system? |
| [02:01:53] | iamlindoro: | in the database |
| [02:02:25] | djbeenie: | i used this template: http://lirc.cvs.sourceforge.net/*checkout*/li . . . revision=1.4 |
| [02:02:41] | djbeenie: | restarted lircd..im still not getting anything from irw |
| [02:03:17] | iamlindoro: | Well you have a receiver I've never heard of, you may need to record your own |
| [02:03:19] | directhex: | jeffery, mythtv has 1 config file – mysql.txt – which specifies where the mysql server is & how to get at the tasty juicy tables inside. every other config detail is in the db |
| [02:03:20] | xanderp: | downloading mysqlgui the command line is good for some things, but I like gui's for editing sql tables!!! |
| [02:03:57] | jeffery: | directhex, thanks.. I thought it had some config file in /etc |
| [02:04:48] | jeffery: | directhex, I presume there is no command line tools (without X server) to work with mythtv-setup |
| [02:04:58] | djbeenie: | i ran this: irrecord --device=/dev/lirc0 /etc/lircd.conf |
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| [02:05:13] | djbeenie: | getting this: irrecord: could not get file information for /dev/lirc0 |
| [02:05:33] | djbeenie: | verified that /dev/lirc0 is there |
| [02:06:28] | iamlindoro: | use lircd |
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| [02:07:11] | johndbritton: | every couple days or so my recordings volume has some problems, the mount point shows ?--------- ?----------- ---------------------- /var/mythtv/recordings and I can fix it by umount ing it and then running xfs_repair.. any ideas |
| [02:07:21] | johndbritton: | its an lvm mount |
| [02:08:18] | directhex: | jeffery, you presume correctly |
| [02:08:28] | djbeenie: | dang im close: irrecord: file "/etc/lircd.conf" does not contain valid data |
| [02:08:43] | iamlindoro: | record to another file, then copy over |
| [02:08:52] | iamlindoro: | lircd.conf.2 |
| [02:09:05] | iamlindoro: | then cp /etc/lircd.conf.2 /etc/lircd.conf after you record |
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| [02:09:27] | iamlindoro: | or, alternately, delete lircd.conf first and re-run the command you just did |
| [02:09:43] | siXy: | johndbritton: i would not reccomend running xfs ontop of linux lvm |
| [02:10:07] | johndbritton: | siXy: why not, and if not what do you recommend |
| [02:10:28] | siXy: | johndbritton: well i avoid linux lvm like the plague |
| [02:11:01] | johndbritton: | i have 5 hard drives in this box, and i want to use them all... is there a better way? |
| [02:11:24] | directhex: | xvm! |
| [02:11:34] | directhex: | knock-down price for you, guv'nor! |
| [02:12:04] | siXy: | johndbritton: RAID 5 would be a nice option if you can live with the capacity loss |
| [02:12:33] | johndbritton: | the drives are not identical though... ive got a 160GB 300GB 80GB and 2 40GB |
| [02:12:38] | directhex: | xvm! |
| [02:12:45] | johndbritton: | googling |
| [02:13:17] | mzb: | # lvdisplay -C | wc -l |
| [02:13:17] | mzb: | 72 |
| [02:13:57] | djbeenie: | iamlindoro: gosh..it went through the wizard, but then it pops up with this at the end.. irrecord: error reading from /dev/lircd |
| [02:13:59] | siXy: | directhex: isnt xvm a sun VM thingy? |
| [02:14:20] | johndbritton: | mzb: 2? |
| [02:14:23] | mzb: | if you don't like being able to change partition sizes, make snapshots, etc while the system is running, then lvm isn't for you |
| [02:14:24] | ** xand wonders why mplayer doesn't like channel 5's sound :S ** | |
| [02:14:35] | mzb: | 2? |
| [02:14:37] | directhex: | siXy, xvm is sgi's xfs-targeted volume manager for use on altixes |
| [02:15:07] | directhex: | might be a little bit not-free-in-the-slightest |
| [02:15:16] | siXy: | directhex: ooh that sounds interesting... i wonder if i can get it up and running on my rhel 5 test box |
| [02:15:19] | iamlindoro: | djbeenie, perhaps sudo your irrecord, if you're not already root? |
| [02:15:29] | johndbritton: | mzb: i ran tath command and got 2, isn't that what you wnated |
| [02:15:58] | mzb: | no, just attempting to show that lvm has it's uses ... and I use it everywhere |
| [02:16:00] | djbeenie: | iamlindoro: im already root |
| [02:16:04] | mzb: | (almost;) |
| [02:16:18] | johndbritton: | i was under the impression (as per the myth wiki) that lvm was a good thing to use |
| [02:16:22] | iamlindoro: | Ah, then I've got nothing for you... you got to name all the buttons and press them, without issue? |
| [02:16:32] | mzb: | it is |
| [02:16:49] | siXy: | ah the non-freeness might hurt some |
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| [02:17:22] | mzb: | it's used by default in Debian lenny installer, so that sounds like fud |
| [02:17:30] | djbeenie: | iamlindoro: no it got to the point where it wants me to press buttons..then it says press enter to start..i hit enter and then throws that error |
| [02:17:32] | johndbritton: | mzb: any idea about this problem then? i suspect that one of the HDs may be failing or that mythtv is writing some weird stuff and causing problems... do you know of any way to diagnose such a problem |
| [02:17:49] | siXy: | mzb: lvm is great when it works as its supposed to |
| [02:17:50] | mzb: | hang on, Ill read back |
| [02:17:58] | johndbritton: | thx |
| [02:18:43] | iamlindoro: | Ah, hmmm... well, I have nothing further then... you're awfully close if irw works... that means that lirc is def. working... you didn't leave mode2 or anything else that might be occupying the lirc device running, did you? |
| [02:18:49] | iamlindoro: | er if mode2 |
| [02:19:14] | mzb: | how have you built your volumes? |
| [02:19:37] | mzb: | using multiple disks, I suggest you use lvm on md |
| [02:19:51] | siXy: | but linux lvm is based on an old version of hp-ux lvm, which is kinda flaky. linux lvm has imrpoved in recent years, but i still do not trust it |
| [02:20:06] | johndbritton: | mzb: what do you mean on md? |
| [02:20:19] | mzb: | software raid of some flavour |
| [02:20:27] | bsdfox: | linux lvm is very robust siXy |
| [02:20:42] | mzb: | using the raid functions in lvm can be unreliable depending on how you implement it |
| [02:20:43] | bsdfox: | I've used it for the last couple years on several machines with no issue |
| [02:20:44] | johndbritton: | mzb: no raid... just a partition on each disk |
| [02:20:52] | bsdfox: | I use mdadm raid |
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| [02:20:56] | bsdfox: | w/ lvm2 on top |
| [02:21:08] | mzb: | johndbritton: ok, first suggestion |
| [02:21:25] | mzb: | copy data off the flaky partition |
| [02:21:31] | mzb: | and then zero it |
| [02:21:51] | mzb: | ie. dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/mapper/flaky-partition |
| [02:21:54] | johndbritton: | i don't really mind losing the data... its a fresh os install and its just the past week of video |
| [02:22:01] | mzb: | then remake the fs |
| [02:22:05] | siXy: | bsdfox: i guess it probably depends on your yardstick. I use AIX a lot at work, which has one of, if not the best LVM implentations around. its far more powerful and stable than linux lvm, so by comparison linux lvm has always seemed pretty rubbish to me |
| [02:22:11] | johndbritton: | mzb: i dont know which partition is flaking out |
| [02:22:26] | johndbritton: | mzb: that is where i could use some help |
| [02:23:02] | mzb: | well, you've just said the dir under ../recordings/ gives problems and that you've been using xfs-repair |
| [02:23:05] | bsdfox: | siXy: I'm not sure how you can call it unstable or less powerful :P |
| [02:23:11] | mzb: | so you *must* know which one it is! |
| [02:23:13] | ** bsdfox hasn't used aix in years ** | |
| [02:23:22] | siXy: | bsdfox: probably because you're not familiar with aix :) |
| [02:23:44] | johndbritton: | mzb: that is where my lvm is mounted... that is the one xfs logical volume spanning multiple physical volumes |
| [02:23:45] | bsdfox: | I've been a freebsd and solaris user for over a decade though |
| [02:24:00] | mzb: | grr |
| [02:24:27] | johndbritton: | mzb: ive only got one logical volume, i may have misunderstoood |
| [02:24:31] | mzb: | you said you had one partition on each disk ... but now you say you're spanning |
| [02:24:51] | johndbritton: | mzb: new to the terminology, let me try again |
| [02:24:54] | mzb: | right ... what are you using to span? LVM |
| [02:25:00] | mzb: | please do |
| [02:25:00] | siXy: | in aix you basically never need to reboot. ever. you can add, remove, move around and paint pictures of fish on disks in aix lvm and it will happily sit there and work. doing the same in linux requires reboots, which means downtime. also every now and then linux lvm seems to have issues, especially when combined with xfs |
| [02:25:12] | johndbritton: | ive got 5 disks, each with a partion on it |
| [02:25:22] | johndbritton: | i used pvcreate on each of the partitions |
| [02:25:25] | mzb: | siXy: that is not correct |
| [02:25:37] | johndbritton: | and then created one logical volume called data-video |
| [02:25:43] | bsdfox: | eh |
| [02:25:45] | johndbritton: | and i used all the physical volumes |
| [02:25:50] | bsdfox: | I never reboot linux machines :P |
| [02:25:55] | siXy: | mzb: its true. i was lieing about painting pictures of fish. |
| [02:26:00] | mzb: | :) |
| [02:26:02] | bsdfox: | only for a new kernel |
| [02:26:03] | mzb: | heh |
| [02:26:18] | mzb: | sounds like you've not been playing with LVM for a while |
| [02:26:33] | ** bsdfox agrees ** | |
| [02:26:36] | johndbritton: | ive set it up once before... and had no problems |
| [02:26:38] | bsdfox: | I use xfs w/ lvm |
| [02:26:58] | mzb: | johndbritton: I assume you're using LVM striping? |
| [02:26:58] | siXy: | its true, i've not used it in a while. |
| [02:27:05] | johndbritton: | do you want me to pastebin some output from lvm? |
| [02:27:06] | ** bsdfox is working on mdadm raid1 w/ iscsi targets running xen domUs ** | |
| [02:27:12] | mzb: | no |
| [02:27:17] | siXy: | and i hear theres lvm2 now, which iv'e not played with at all |
| [02:27:24] | johndbritton: | mzb: i dont know what lvm striping is |
| [02:27:27] | bsdfox: | lvm2 has been around for years |
| [02:27:30] | mzb: | siXY: lol |
| [02:28:00] | ** siXy still regards 2.6 kernels as recent ** | |
| [02:28:22] | bsdfox: | ...? |
| [02:28:24] | mzb: | johndbritton: how did you create your volume group? You seem to have achieved a spanning VG of some sort but without any knowledge of what you've done ... the setup tools must be too powerful ;P |
| [02:28:44] | johndbritton: | http://pastebin.com/d40cd35eb output from pvdisplay |
| [02:28:50] | mzb: | hmm |
| [02:29:23] | johndbritton: | http://pastebin.com/md2341e8 output from lvdisplay |
| [02:29:40] | mzb: | vgdisplay please |
| [02:30:12] | johndbritton: | http://pastebin.com/m217f6a3b vgdisplay |
| [02:30:12] | mzb: | dm |
| [02:31:20] | johndbritton: | oops, this is lvdisplay http://pastebin.com/m436d9f75 |
| [02:31:43] | siXy: | bsdfox/mzb: either of you use linux lvm2 in a mission critical server? |
| [02:31:59] | iamlindoro: | Anyone running a userjob to load commercials as cutpoints and do lossless Mpeg-2 transcode? |
| [02:32:03] | bsdfox: | I don't run linux on mission critical servers |
| [02:32:10] | bsdfox: | solaris or freebsd please :D |
| [02:32:27] | bsdfox: | iamlindoro: I do |
| [02:32:45] | iamlindoro: | bsdfox, any chance you'd be willing to share it with me? I have been struggling with it a bit and would like to see how you do so |
| [02:32:54] | bsdfox: | well, not lossless mpeg-2, but I run userjobs to remove commercials then transcode |
| [02:33:06] | mzb: | siXy: only my own ... ie. not mission critical, no ... but I too use xen on my server and have done for a few years |
| [02:33:10] | bsdfox: | iamlindoro: just a sec I gotta remove some passwords |
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| [02:33:17] | iamlindoro: | absolutely, thanks |
| [02:33:22] | mzb: | johndbritton: stop spanning with LVM |
| [02:33:41] | mzb: | use md raid0 for that, and build a PV out of md0 |
| [02:33:57] | bsdfox: | that's what I do johndbritton, works great |
| [02:34:07] | bsdfox: | it's what I do on my mythbackend actually :P |
| [02:34:23] | siXy: | building a new server in a few days, and given that im going to have a week longer than i thought to build it i might give lvm a prod and see how it does. be great if it can keep up with aix's lvm |
| [02:34:25] | johndbritton: | great, ill try that... do you have any linkage |
| [02:35:12] | mzb: | siXY: as I said, Debian lenny (netinst) ... err .. .hang on ... I think it might have been etch (4.0r1) netinst |
| [02:35:30] | mzb: | has lvm setup by default ... give that a quick go if you like the short version ;) |
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| [02:35:58] | mzb: | johndbritton: www.google.com "howto software raid" |
| [02:36:06] | bsdfox: | iamlindoro: remove commercials after being flagged: http://rafb.net/p/goHSHl96.html |
| [02:36:20] | johndbritton: | should i stick with xfs mzb and bsdfox, or other recommendation |
| [02:36:26] | mzb: | when you've created an "md0" device just treat it as a single disk |
| [02:36:30] | mzb: | stick with xfs |
| [02:36:49] | siXy: | generally i prefer not using automated tools, as it makes it harder to fix if i dont know what was actually done. but yeah, thanks |
| [02:36:52] | bsdfox: | iamlindoro: transcode after commercials removed (uses mythtranscode settings) http://rafb.net/p/ZWrJo358.html |
| [02:36:54] | mzb: | unless you want to resize (downsize) your partition at some stage |
| [02:36:59] | johndbritton: | thanks, you've been a great help |
| [02:37:15] | mzb: | my pleasure ... have fun |
| [02:37:18] | bsdfox: | I run gentoo siXy |
| [02:37:26] | iamlindoro: | bsdfox, thanks... actually, if I can get it working, the first script should be more than enough, I use another script to do my transcoding... thanks very much! |
| [02:37:30] | johndbritton: | mzb: i only want it to get bigger, no need to shrink |
| [02:37:34] | bsdfox: | iamlindoro: np |
| [02:37:49] | mzb: | ok, xfs will be fine then (and with fast deletes) |
| [02:38:18] | johndbritton: | mzb: thats what i have read |
| [02:39:54] | bsdfox: | siXy: if you're gonna raid, I'd recommend using mdadm raid instead of the striping built into lvm2 just cause I haven't tested it ever |
| [02:39:56] | mzb: | oops, 335 tabs in firefox ... getting sloppy ;) |
| [02:40:16] | bsdfox: | mzb: don't suppose you're any good at initrd hacking? |
| [02:40:22] | mzb: | heh |
| [02:40:30] | mzb: | google "RamdiskRescue" |
| [02:40:41] | johndbritton: | now that i am switching to md raid0, what is the benefit over lvm... just for my own knowledge |
| [02:40:53] | mzb: | stability? |
| [02:41:13] | siXy: | bsdfox: its going to be hardware raid, which is just easier all round |
| [02:41:14] | mzb: | you still use LVM |
| [02:41:19] | bsdfox: | I want to add iscsi target support to xen initrd |
| [02:41:31] | mzb: | but on top of md (raid0) |
| [02:42:03] | mzb: | bsdfox: using initramfs-tools? |
| [02:42:22] | johndbritton: | ok then i guess the more correct question would be what makes md better than lvm striping? |
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| [02:43:01] | mzb: | stability? :)) |
| [02:43:27] | mzb: | just use the strengths of each, and what they're good at |
| [02:44:18] | mzb: | ie. md is good at raid, lvm is good at partitioning |
| [02:44:18] | johndbritton: | so if this is a problem with one of my harddisks, will md fix it? i would presume not, but then again im unsure... the real goal i have here is diagnosing the problem, what do you think about checking the drives? they seem to be detected correctly and working (most of the time) |
| [02:44:58] | mzb: | not necessarily, but it removes a lot of variables, and iirc the md code does a better job of fixing errors |
| [02:45:08] | johndbritton: | i see |
| [02:45:13] | mzb: | note that a lot of the guys here use raid5 for that reason |
| [02:45:24] | mzb: | s/fixing/handling |
| [02:45:31] | johndbritton: | ill continue reading this howto... id love raid5 but dont i need identical disks? |
| [02:46:15] | mzb: | note that you can build raid volumes from partitions (incuding LVM ones) |
| [02:46:33] | mzb: | ie. disks don't need to be identical |
| [02:47:02] | johndbritton: | hmm, ive got some reading to do |
| [02:47:02] | mzb: | (the members of the volume might need to be though;) |
| [02:47:45] | johndbritton: | yeah, and i wouldnt want to put more than one partition off a given disk in the raid array... because the backup could be stored on the same disk (parity bit or whatever) |
| [02:47:48] | mzb: | just separate device (md) from partition (lvm) and it becomes simple |
| [02:48:09] | mzb: | bsdfox: /etc/initramfs-tools/modules |
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| [02:48:26] | johndbritton: | mzb: for you! confusing to me though |
| [02:49:05] | mzb: | read through it a few times, make some mistakes ... just keep the concepts clear in your mind and the rest will fall into place with reading+practice |
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| [03:03:19] | iamlindoro: | bsdfox, got your script running ok without complaint... it runs through and cuts out 100 or so meg of... well, I don't know what, but it wasn't the commercial flags... any ideas? Seen anything like this when you run it? |
| [03:03:58] | Aval0n: | anyone here using a logitech harmony on their mythtv boxen? |
| [03:11:56] | siXy: | Aval0n: I do |
| [03:12:43] | Aval0n: | ahh |
| [03:12:46] | Aval0n: | cool |
| [03:12:50] | Aval0n: | how did you config it? |
| [03:12:55] | Aval0n: | I'm emulating and RC6 |
| [03:13:03] | Aval0n: | but it's not quite as snappy as I would like it to be |
| [03:13:09] | Aval0n: | even turning the delays to 0 |
| [03:13:25] | kormoc: | how do you know it's the remote and not the frontend itself? |
| [03:13:37] | Aval0n: | because I have a real rc6 remote and it's perfect. |
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| [03:15:05] | siXy: | I use it with an mce-usb reciver so i emulate an mce-usb remote |
| [03:17:34] | siXy: | Aval0n: yeah the harmony seems to be slow using mce-usb too, but a large part of that is that lirc itself is slow |
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| [03:19:44] | Aval0n: | hmm |
| [03:19:47] | eric: | im running ubuntu 7.10.. i've verified that my tv tuner card works (i can watch tv fine in tvtime).. i installed mythtv via the mythbuntu control centre.. went through the configuration.. i can connect to the database just fine.. the problem that i am having is when i try to go to the mythtv frontend and then select "watch tv".. i hear audio from my cable comming in, but then instead of any video being displayed, i just get the mythb |
| [03:20:07] | Aval0n: | but when using the real rc6 with the mceusb2 it's extremely snappy |
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| [03:20:14] | Aval0n: | but the remote itself has a bit of a delay |
| [03:20:26] | Aval0n: | when you hit the button you can see the delay before the blue light on it comes on |
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| [03:20:37] | Aval0n: | but i've turned all the delays to 0 in the logitech software |
| [03:20:46] | Aval0n: | it helped a bit but not near as good as the real rc6 |
| [03:20:49] | Aval0n: | ahh well |
| [03:20:58] | siXy: | Aval0n: mine doesnt do that |
| [03:21:13] | Aval0n: | doesn't do what |
| [03:21:16] | Aval0n: | the delay? |
| [03:21:32] | siXy: | yeah the delay |
| [03:21:38] | Aval0n: | it's barely noticeable when looking for the light but it's there |
| [03:21:40] | Aval0n: | what model is yours? |
| [03:21:46] | Aval0n: | i have the 520 |
| [03:22:06] | siXy: | me too |
| [03:22:17] | Aval0n: | how did you config the logitech |
| [03:22:20] | siXy: | oh wait might be the 525 actually |
| [03:22:23] | Aval0n: | you emulating another remote? |
| [03:22:30] | Aval0n: | didn't think they had a 525' |
| [03:22:39] | Aval0n: | it went from 520 to 550 i belive |
| [03:22:57] | siXy: | http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/remotes/uni . . . amp;cl=gb,en |
| [03:23:01] | siXy: | says 525 there |
| [03:23:12] | Aval0n: | ahh |
| [03:23:15] | Aval0n: | cool |
| [03:23:19] | Aval0n: | never seen it before |
| [03:23:36] | Aval0n: | what's there difference I wonder |
| [03:24:05] | siXy: | yeah i just loaded up the crappy windos config thingy and programmed in mce-usb settings (which were actually one of the many presets) tweaked a little and that was it |
| [03:24:13] | gizmobay: | eric, what does he backend and frontend log say? |
| [03:24:17] | ** siXy does not know ** | |
| [03:25:15] | Aval0n: | windows thingy? |
| [03:25:22] | Aval0n: | you made it a windows mce remote ? |
| [03:25:51] | siXy: | yeah |
| [03:26:32] | eric: | gizmo: where might those log files be? |
| [03:27:34] | Aval0n: | ahh ok |
| [03:27:35] | Aval0n: | cool |
| [03:27:43] | gizmobay: | /var/log/mythtv |
| [03:28:01] | gizmobay: | or you can just start the backend and frontend from a terminal |
| [03:28:09] | siXy: | but i had a spare mce reciever lying around, and i didnt want to mess with serial or tunercard ir recievers, due to the problem of being inherantly lazy |
| [03:28:14] | gizmobay: | and it'll scroll in the terminal |
| [03:28:26] | Aval0n: | I hear ya |
| [03:28:28] | Aval0n: | i use the mceusb2 |
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| [03:32:30] | eric: | got it.. in mythfrontend.log VideoOutputXv: XvMCTex: Init Failed.. VideoOutputXv: XVideo Adaptor Name: 'Xgl Generic Texture Video'.. mythfrontend.real: Fatal IO error: client killed |
| [03:34:07] | eric: | any ideas? |
| [03:34:30] | gizmobay: | what card are you using |
| [03:35:10] | siXy: | eric: turing off XvMC might be a good plan |
| [03:35:26] | gizmobay: | yeah I was just thinking that |
| [03:35:34] | eric: | wintv haugpague 350 |
| [03:36:03] | gizmobay: | change xvmc |
| [03:36:08] | eric: | how would i go about disabling xvmc? |
| [03:36:38] | siXy: | eric: setings > tv > playback |
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| [03:38:04] | gizmobay: | change the preferred MPEG encoder |
| [03:38:10] | gizmobay: | to standard |
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| [03:41:02] | MitoTranin: | anyone here good with serial recievers? |
| [03:41:19] | gizmobay: | ir? |
| [03:41:26] | MitoTranin: | sorry, yeah, ir |
| [03:41:38] | MitoTranin: | specifically this one: http://irblaster.info/receiver.html |
| [03:41:40] | gizmobay: | I have a usb |
| [03:42:10] | MitoTranin: | I can't even get irw or mode2 to show any response |
| [03:42:20] | MitoTranin: | I'm starting to wonder if my serial port is bad |
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| [03:45:17] | gizmobay: | did you set uart to none? Mito |
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| [03:45:52] | MitoTranin: | yes, in /etc/serial.conf and /var/lib/setserial/autoserial.conf |
| [03:46:23] | MitoTranin: | also to note: I'm not sure if it's serial 0 or serial 1, so I've tried both |
| [03:46:33] | MitoTranin: | right now have both set to uart none |
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| [03:47:00] | MitoTranin: | and I've toggled back and forth, with reboots between in the /etc/modprobe.d/lirc as to which one is set to lirc_serial |
| [03:48:01] | gizmobay: | as root #setserial -g /dev/ttyS* |
| [03:49:08] | MitoTranin: | # setserial -g /dev/ttyS1 |
| [03:49:08] | MitoTranin: | /dev/ttyS1, UART: unknown, Port: 0x02f8, IRQ: 3 |
| [03:49:55] | gizmobay: | do the ttyS* |
| [03:50:05] | MitoTranin: | oh, sorry |
| [03:50:21] | johndbritton: | how do i gracefully bring down the mythtv-backend |
| [03:50:25] | MitoTranin: | ok, done |
| [03:50:38] | MitoTranin: | same output, but for each of the diffferent irq's and I/O's |
| [03:50:40] | gizmobay: | all unknown? |
| [03:50:47] | MitoTranin: | yes |
| [03:51:10] | MitoTranin: | johndbritton: was it started by a service? |
| [03:51:34] | MitoTranin: | /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend stop |
| [03:51:36] | MitoTranin: | should work |
| [03:51:52] | johndbritton: | yes i start it /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend start ... if i just use stop, is that graceful, what happens if it is in the middle of a recording |
| [03:52:11] | MitoTranin: | the recording is truncated where it is |
| [03:52:11] | gizmobay: | mito, what do you have in your modprobe.comf |
| [03:52:21] | MitoTranin: | then if you start it again, it resumes recording where it left off |
| [03:52:26] | MitoTranin: | sometimes same file, sometimes new file |
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| [03:53:10] | MitoTranin: | /etc/modules has: |
| [03:53:11] | MitoTranin: | fuse |
| [03:53:11] | MitoTranin: | lp |
| [03:53:30] | MitoTranin: | /etc/modprobe.d/lirc has: |
| [03:53:38] | MitoTranin: | options lirc_serial irq=3 io=0x2f8 |
| [03:54:09] | MitoTranin: | and there's a handful of other files in /etc/modprobe.d/ too if you want those... |
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| [03:55:46] | gizmobay: | should also have |
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| [03:56:34] | gizmobay: | instal lirc_serial setserial /dev/ttyS0 uart none; /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install lirc_serial |
| [03:56:58] | gizmobay: | first word should be install |
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| [03:57:47] | MitoTranin: | is that typed, or in the /etc/modprobe.d/lirc file? |
| [03:58:04] | MitoTranin: | and are you sure that's the right syntax for ubuntu? |
| [03:58:09] | MitoTranin: | (just making sure) |
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| [03:58:21] | gizmobay: | I'm using Fedora |
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| [03:59:05] | MitoTranin: | k |
| [03:59:05] | gizmobay: | that's what I added to get my IR blaster to work |
| [03:59:32] | gizmobay: | I'm sure it's the same steps for the receiver |
| [04:00:22] | Staticwave_Ace: | anyone know why mythtv (0.20.2_p14680) would be missing channels when scanning an hdhomerun, that the hdhomerun shows? |
| [04:00:58] | Staticwave_Ace: | (using a scan view hdhomerun_config) |
| [04:01:15] | MitoTranin: | well I have the uart none in my setserial config |
| [04:01:19] | MitoTranin: | isn't that about the same? |
| [04:02:04] | gizmobay: | probably |
| [04:02:19] | gizmobay: | I just know the way I do it works |
| [04:02:32] | MitoTranin: | touché |
| [04:02:51] | gizmobay: | I also have alias char-major-61–1 lirc_serial in my modprobe |
| [04:03:49] | MitoTranin: | any good ideas on how to test if my serial port actually works? |
| [04:04:02] | Staticwave_Ace: | oscilloscope |
| [04:04:07] | MitoTranin: | this system only has 1 serial port, and it's a header on the motherboard |
| [04:04:25] | MitoTranin: | so I am using a dongle-cable to put it to an expansion slot |
| [04:04:31] | MitoTranin: | oscilloscope? |
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| [04:05:31] | Staticwave_Ace: | MitoTranin: it measures and displays electrical waveforms |
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| [04:06:15] | MitoTranin: | ok... but that doesn't tell me that my serial port is actually functional, it would just tell me that it carries an electrical current |
| [04:06:23] | Staticwave_Ace: | not quite |
| [04:06:42] | Staticwave_Ace: | if you sent a repeating signal out of the serial port, you can see if it actually gets sent or not |
| [04:07:55] | gizmobay: | did you try options lirc_serial irq=4 io=0x3f8 |
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| [04:08:29] | MitoTranin: | gizmobay: yes, I tried that one first |
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| [04:08:48] | MitoTranin: | Staticwave_Ace: sounds cool... but I don't have one... |
| [04:08:59] | Staticwave_Ace: | heh, unfortunate |
| [04:09:05] | tcpsyn: | Anyone have any luck with HD recordings on the PS3 with the myth upnp server? |
| [04:10:10] | gizmobay: | you can get a o-scope at walmart |
| [04:10:14] | gizmobay: | just kidding |
| [04:10:16] | Staticwave_Ace: | hehe |
| [04:10:24] | Staticwave_Ace: | if you could I would've bought one long long ago |
| [04:10:46] | gizmobay: | yeah them puppies ain't cheap |
| [04:11:02] | Staticwave_Ace: | $30 if you're lucky |
| [04:11:16] | gizmobay: | 30 bucks for an o-scope???? |
| [04:11:22] | gizmobay: | ebay? |
| [04:11:36] | Staticwave_Ace: | anyone here using an hdhomerun? I've trying to config mine, but mythtv misses channels while hdhomerun_config's scan finds them (they do existZ) |
| [04:11:46] | Staticwave_Ace: | gizmobay: university auction |
| [04:11:53] | gizmobay: | ahh |
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| [04:14:14] | bonk: | any help configuring xorg.conf for svideo out to tv from a radeon mobility 7500 |
| [04:14:20] | bonk: | ? |
| [04:14:41] | bonk: | i get video to the tv, it's just fuzzy |
| [04:19:18] | tcpsyn: | lossless transcoding is supposed to transcode mpeg2-ts to mpeg2-ps ... right? |
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| [04:26:47] | tcpsyn: | when I start a transcode... nothing happens |
| [04:27:00] | tcpsyn: | I don't see mythtranscode running |
| [04:27:18] | tcpsyn: | weird |
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| [04:31:38] | levander: | Some of these video cards have S-Video/HDTV out ports. I thought you could just use a DVI out as an HDTV out? What's the advantage of having a dedicated S-Video/HDTV out port? |
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| [04:33:27] | tcpsyn: | maybe sound over hdmi |
| [04:33:36] | tcpsyn: | dvi doesn't support audio |
| [04:34:35] | tcpsyn: | the advantage to svideo, is it's cheaper than hdmi :) |
| [04:35:04] | levander: | I wonder if sound over hdmi really works when it's coming out of a video card? |
| [04:35:34] | levander: | The video card doesn't have any sound processing in it or anything. I guess it's possible it passes audio through somehow though. |
| [04:35:38] | tcpsyn: | I have no idea. |
| [04:35:56] | kormoc: | HDMI is required if you need HDCP |
| [04:35:59] | tcpsyn: | if it did, that would rock. |
| [04:36:05] | tcpsyn: | what's hdcp? |
| [04:36:25] | kormoc: | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDCP |
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| [04:36:56] | kormoc: | least, for a lot of tv's, they require HDMI rather then support HDCP over DVI |
| [04:37:02] | siXy: | levander: there are motherboards with HDMI out that pass sound over HDMI. as far as i am aware no seperate video cards support audio passthrough over hdmi |
| [04:37:11] | tcpsyn: | oh grhist. |
| [04:37:14] | tcpsyn: | christ |
| [04:38:11] | siXy: | kormoc: and doesnt hdmi 1.3 have extra encryption support over hdmi 1 or dvi? |
| [04:38:46] | kormoc: | I think so, aye |
| [04:39:05] | levander: | siXy: I'm actually buying a video card for an older machine, AGP 4/8x video card I need. That machine will not do HDTV. But, I've got another Athlon XP1700+ machine sitting here. Next time I upgrade my main machine, that XP1700 will be free, and it can do HDTV. I'm trying to get a good AGP 4x/8x card for when I move it to that XP1700+ machine. A good card that can do HDTV. |
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| [04:39:24] | levander: | I just use old machines for mythtv, don't buy new ones. |
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| [04:40:24] | siXy: | levander: well the fastest AGP card i know of is the radeon x1950 pro AGP. but ati linux drivers are not the best |
| [04:41:09] | levander: | Yeah, definitely wanna nVidia. I'm sitting here with a 9700 Pro that just will not get X-Windows going with the fglrx driver. It's why I'm looking for a new card. |
| [04:41:30] | L0ng0n3: | Is there a good analog / digital card? or is it best to seperate them |
| [04:41:32] | L0ng0n3: | > |
| [04:41:33] | L0ng0n3: | ? |
| [04:42:27] | L0ng0n3: | I want to build a PVR like yesterday but what stops me are the cards. I want the best |
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| [04:42:37] | L0ng0n3: | anyone? |
| [04:42:57] | kormoc: | if you're in the US and you have HD cable, firewire is the way to go |
| [04:43:00] | kormoc: | skip the card entirely |
| [04:43:30] | siXy: | L0ng0n3: waiting more than 30 seconds for an answer before getting impatient is a good way to get more help. |
| [04:43:32] | L0ng0n3: | I have HD but only though basic cable |
| [04:43:48] | opello: | pchd5500? |
| [04:44:12] | opello: | if it's unencrypted |
| [04:44:20] | L0ng0n3: | my 2 HDTV TV's pull tons of channels. |
| [04:44:36] | kormoc: | I'm not aware of Comcast giving out HD channels with basic cable |
| [04:44:37] | L0ng0n3: | 5500 is digital? |
| [04:44:38] | ** kormoc shrugs ** | |
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| [04:45:27] | siXy: | levander: i think theres a GF 7800 GS for agp bus |
| [04:45:49] | L0ng0n3: | comcast has to provide local HD channels wih there service.. |
| [04:46:12] | kormoc: | Only if it's a HD subscription I believe |
| [04:46:19] | siXy: | that has HDMI output, but i don't know about HDCP support |
| [04:46:29] | L0ng0n3: | but for some reason my tv's get payperview channels and everything.. i knwo it was weid but hey i get them |
| [04:46:50] | tcpsyn: | damn |
| [04:46:54] | tcpsyn: | I'm not so lucky |
| [04:46:54] | L0ng0n3: | i know |
| [04:47:05] | tcpsyn: | I just get network broadcast with basic cable |
| [04:47:17] | tcpsyn: | I'm using charter |
| [04:47:25] | L0ng0n3: | i just want to build a pvr that will be able to record and play anolog and digital channels |
| [04:47:28] | levander: | All the cards on Newegg that have HDMI are PCI Express. |
| [04:47:32] | tcpsyn: | and I get their ppv previews. |
| [04:47:44] | L0ng0n3: | nice |
| [04:47:59] | L0ng0n3: | is there a all in one card out there |
| [04:48:01] | L0ng0n3: | ? |
| [04:48:02] | tcpsyn: | L0ng0n3, I use a pchdtv and a pvr-150 |
| [04:48:04] | siXy: | levander: google for geforce 7800 gs agp |
| [04:48:26] | L0ng0n3: | is the playback good |
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| [04:48:38] | tcpsyn: | yeah. |
| [04:48:38] | L0ng0n3: | how is the quality? |
| [04:48:51] | kormoc: | HD capture cards are 'perfect' |
| [04:48:54] | tcpsyn: | Yep. |
| [04:49:00] | kormoc: | HD is broadcast as mpeg-2 |
| [04:49:07] | kormoc: | HD cards just copy the stream to the drive |
| [04:49:08] | tcpsyn: | the analog one is different on different channels. |
| [04:49:19] | tcpsyn: | but the hd card is perfect |
| [04:49:28] | tcpsyn: | huge files, but perfect. |
| [04:49:39] | buzzed: | getting svideo out to tv but it is fuzzy and help? |
| [04:49:52] | kormoc: | and to get them smaller requires a lot of cpu, fyi |
| [04:50:07] | tcpsyn: | yea. I just deal with it. |
| [04:50:09] | siXy: | ok it looks like only 8xxx nvidia cards have HDCP support |
| [04:50:10] | tcpsyn: | space is cheap |
| [04:50:10] | L0ng0n3: | I want to be able to watch and record 2 anolog or 2 digital channels in anytime!!! |
| [04:50:31] | kormoc: | in anytime? is that related to realtime? |
| [04:50:51] | siXy: | so the radeon x1950 pro agp might be the only agp card with hdcp out there... |
| [04:50:55] | buzzed: | so if i get svideo out... is my problem mainly with the xorg.conf? |
| [04:50:55] | tcpsyn: | l0ng0n3, I think it's possible with the pchdtv, but I've never read anything positive about doing it that way. |
| [04:51:11] | kormoc: | get a pvr 500 and two digital cards |
| [04:51:32] | tcpsyn: | buzzed, does it output better over a different connection? |
| [04:51:34] | L0ng0n3: | tcpsyn: What is your setup |
| [04:52:04] | buzzed: | tcpsyn: only using svideo |
| [04:52:05] | kormoc: | the issue is most (all?) digital cards have a bttv chip for analog, and that's cpu hungry and low quality |
| [04:52:34] | tcpsyn: | l0ng0n3, I use one pchdtv and one pvr-150, and I set the call signs for the digital channels and the analog channels to be the same, then I set the prefered input to digital on those channels. |
| [04:53:46] | tcpsyn: | that way if the pchdtv is in use on FOX and I want to record something on NBC, it'll still record in analog. |
| [04:54:18] | tcpsyn: | but if at all possible, it'll capture stuff with the hd flag with the pchdtv. |
| [04:54:19] | L0ng0n3: | so to record or watch 2 anolog and 2 digital what do you think the best card s to get are? |
| [04:54:27] | L0ng0n3: | I want to purchas them tonight... |
| [04:54:31] | tcpsyn: | kormoc told you. |
| [04:54:44] | tcpsyn: | the pvr-500 for analog |
| [04:54:57] | L0ng0n3: | ok cook |
| [04:54:59] | L0ng0n3: | cool |
| [04:55:00] | tcpsyn: | and the only digital card I have experience with is the pchdtv |
| [04:55:11] | tcpsyn: | 1 pvr-500 and 2 pchdtvs |
| [04:55:20] | tcpsyn: | will get you 2 analog and 2 digital. |
| [04:55:27] | buzzed: | is Option "TVOutFormat" important? |
| [04:55:32] | kormoc: | and a good spliter/cable booster |
| [04:55:35] | siXy: | buzzed: yes |
| [04:55:40] | kormoc: | buzzed, it can be, depending on your setup |
| [04:55:46] | tcpsyn: | if you're using twinview. |
| [04:55:49] | tcpsyn: | right. |
| [04:55:50] | tcpsyn: | er. |
| [04:55:57] | L0ng0n3: | I looking forward in getting this thing running |
| [04:56:07] | tcpsyn: | good luck. |
| [04:56:13] | tcpsyn: | it'll be fun at least. |
| [04:56:16] | iamlindoro: | Or get an HDHomerun which will do 2 digital for you and probably be cheaper than 2 HD5000s |
| [04:56:17] | L0ng0n3: | ya ill need it for sure |
| [04:56:21] | siXy: | should be either "svideo" or "composite" or "component" |
| [04:57:19] | siXy: | ... assuming you are using one of the above types of tv output of course |
| [04:57:55] | L0ng0n3: | I am going to build this from scratch so i will be ordering everything.. |
| [04:58:19] | tcpsyn: | Now... I just ran mythtranscode from the command line. |
| [04:58:23] | tcpsyn: | and it made a new file... |
| [04:58:29] | tcpsyn: | but gave it a .tmp extension. |
| [04:58:49] | tcpsyn: | does mythtranscode call anything after it's done that renames the file? |
| [04:58:58] | tcpsyn: | or is that just what it does if you don't give an output filename. |
| [05:00:02] | L0ng0n3: | anoyone have a good case they are using.. This will be going into my very nice theater and will be in site.... |
| [05:00:30] | johndbritton: | antec sonata II |
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| [05:00:53] | iamlindoro: | Have used Antec Fusion and Zalman HD 160, both are HTPC, both have VFDs and IR sensors, both look fantastic |
| [05:00:59] | johndbritton: | quiet, has drive rails, and lots of room... i also like that it has filters on the air intake, so the inside stays very clean |
| [05:01:06] | siXy: | L0ng0n3: when asking about cases, its useful to give an idea of budget. there are a lot of nice cases but some are very expensive |
| [05:01:30] | L0ng0n3: | good call |
| [05:02:16] | L0ng0n3: | money isngt realy a issue but I want to put it were it matters.. $100 to $200 is ok with me |
| [05:02:40] | L0ng0n3: | all you guys thus far have been a great help |
| [05:03:12] | iamlindoro: | Can get most of the nice HTPC cases for about that... Both that I mentioned are in that range, and can be made to work with Myth (VFDs and IR Sensors) |
| [05:03:53] | siXy: | L0ng0n3: in that case have a look at http://www.silverstonetek.com/ http://www.ahanix.com/products/mce/ http://www.origenae.com/en/products_htpc.htm |
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| [05:06:11] | bonk: | any place where people post xorg.conf's? |
| [05:06:57] | siXy: | bonk: rafb.net |
| [05:07:01] | kormoc: | http://www.google.com |
| [05:07:42] | L0ng0n3: | thank you .. wow those are nice |
| [05:07:49] | L0ng0n3: | MCE 701 that is a nice box |
| [05:09:52] | L0ng0n3: | anyone know were the best place to purchas everything @ one place... |
| [05:10:11] | kormoc: | newegg is great |
| [05:10:11] | iamlindoro: | where are you? |
| [05:10:14] | iamlindoro: | yup |
| [05:10:26] | kormoc: | he's in Washington, USA if his hostmask is correct |
| [05:10:32] | kormoc: | or perhaps DC |
| [05:10:36] | iamlindoro: | Yeah, newegg for sure then |
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| [05:11:09] | tcpsyn: | anyone have any idea when I start a transcode.. why it doesn't do anything? |
| [05:11:13] | L0ng0n3: | yep WA |
| [05:11:19] | tcpsyn: | yet if I run mythtranscode from the cli, it works fine? |
| [05:12:01] | L0ng0n3: | anyone else use a diffrent company other then newegg? |
| [05:12:08] | tcpsyn: | no |
| [05:12:22] | L0ng0n3: | newegg is awesome but just looking at the options |
| [05:12:29] | tcpsyn: | zipzoomfly |
| [05:12:31] | L0ng0n3: | newegg thas it |
| [05:12:38] | L0ng0n3: | ? |
| [05:12:43] | tcpsyn: | www.zipzoomfly.com |
| [05:12:45] | kormoc: | I like directron, but it's unlikely to have everything you want |
| [05:12:51] | bonk: | basically doing something like this http://rafb.net/p/ZxH7kH95.html |
| [05:13:50] | L0ng0n3: | kormoc: why would you say tha |
| [05:13:51] | L0ng0n3: | that |
| [05:13:56] | tcpsyn: | bonk, I'm not familiar with ati |
| [05:14:21] | kormoc: | L0ng0n3, they typically have a more random bunch of parts. They'd have some of what you want, but not all of it |
| [05:14:50] | L0ng0n3: | got ya |
| [05:15:13] | bonk: | tcpsyn: does it matter at this point? if i am getting the video out... |
| [05:15:37] | bonk: | which driver i am using |
| [05:15:57] | kormoc: | Sure it does |
| [05:16:08] | bonk: | is it just refresh rates and xorg.conf stuff? |
| [05:16:09] | kormoc: | all those options are driver (and driver version) dependant |
| [05:16:14] | L0ng0n3: | what about video out?? any dvi cars or do i have to stick with DVI or coponant |
| [05:16:32] | kormoc: | also can be down to the specific tv-out chip that's on your card |
| [05:16:47] | kormoc: | L0ng0n3, huh? |
| [05:17:00] | L0ng0n3: | video card? |
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| [05:17:10] | kormoc: | Nvidia is the most recommended |
| [05:17:37] | L0ng0n3: | do they make a HDMI? |
| [05:17:46] | kormoc: | Yes |
| [05:17:57] | L0ng0n3: | ill google it |
| [05:18:01] | L0ng0n3: | sweet |
| [05:18:05] | kormoc: | Newegg's power search is quite easy for that too |
| [05:18:18] | L0ng0n3: | nice.. newegg is awesome |
| [05:19:02] | L0ng0n3: | are all you guys runnning mythtv??? |
| [05:19:12] | iamlindoro: | Probably |
| [05:19:14] | siXy: | nah we all use windows mce |
| [05:19:18] | iamlindoro: | heh |
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| [05:19:29] | kormoc: | I use a tin can and some blue berries |
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| [05:19:51] | L0ng0n3: | anyone running any windows bast software?? I dont know linux at all' |
| [05:20:07] | kormoc: | L0ng0n3, they really wouldn't be here if they did |
| [05:20:13] | ** iamlindoro scratches his head in confusion. ** | |
| [05:20:26] | siXy: | bast? |
| [05:20:29] | L0ng0n3: | I kow what you mezn but that isnt compleatly true/ |
| [05:20:38] | Alowishus: | ok I just reduced my cable lineup from extended to basic... I went ahead and removed the channels in SchedulesDirect... will Myth figure out that it should remove those from my lineup on the next filldatabase, or will I just wind up missing guide data? |
| [05:20:45] | ** iamlindoro bastes a turkey, does that count? ** | |
| [05:20:50] | L0ng0n3: | based |
| [05:20:53] | L0ng0n3: | sorry |
| [05:20:55] | L0ng0n3: | lol |
| [05:20:56] | L0ng0n3: | lol |
| [05:20:59] | kormoc: | Alowishus, mythfilldatabase --refresh-all |
| [05:21:08] | kormoc: | iirc that will 'fix' it for ya |
| [05:21:15] | siXy: | L0ng0n3: my laptop is windows vista for work reasons. that any use? |
| [05:21:25] | Alowishus: | kormoc: will try right now... |
| [05:21:48] | L0ng0n3: | no lol |
| [05:21:56] | siXy: | L0ng0n3: if you download fedora and follow jared's excellent guide it should be pretty easy. |
| [05:22:36] | siXy: | ubuntu is supposed to be easy too, but i have an inbuilt aversion to ubuntu |
| [05:22:49] | L0ng0n3: | isnt there a all in one install package?? |
| [05:23:22] | siXy: | L0ng0n3: yes, that doesnt mean that running the install is all you have to do |
| [05:23:26] | xris: | 2.5 months of schedules direct... |
| [05:23:29] | xris: | scary |
| [05:23:48] | L0ng0n3: | i know sixy.. thanks bro. |
| [05:23:49] | iamlindoro: | l0ng0n3, mythtv ties together many pieces of software, including some of its own... you will understand your system very well once you ahve your box set up |
| [05:24:17] | siXy: | xris: thats a LOT of schedule.. since turing to the darkside of EIT i have to live with 7 days at a time :( |
| [05:24:31] | kormoc: | L0ng0n3, knoppmyth, mythdora, etc |
| [05:24:52] | siXy: | oh yeah there are those... i forget about them |
| [05:24:56] | xris: | siXy: not worth $20? |
| [05:25:12] | siXy: | xris: incorrect country |
| [05:25:16] | xris: | oh |
| [05:25:21] | xris: | that'd definitely make a difference |
| [05:25:25] | siXy: | :) |
| [05:25:37] | kormoc: | siXy, you could move for your schedules... :P |
| [05:25:52] | L0ng0n3: | ooo i like what it offers but it somewhat scars me to F with it and spend tons of time.. thats why im here talking to you gents.. all you guys are grea |
| [05:25:55] | siXy: | kormoc: yeah but the commute would be hellish |
| [05:26:00] | xris: | we'll be looking at EU/UK listings eventually |
| [05:26:10] | xris: | problem is that we don't know how many users would actually pay. |
| [05:26:20] | iamlindoro: | l0ng0n3, it's the tweaking that makes it FUN! |
| [05:26:27] | iamlindoro: | oh, and sometimes I watch TV with it too hahaha |
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| [05:26:38] | siXy: | xris: in the UK there is radio times which can be parsed with xmltv scrapers |
| [05:26:40] | Alowishus: | kormoc: hm no... the --refresh-all still left all the channels as available to the tuners, just without guide data |
| [05:26:54] | xris: | siXy: TMS offers UK data, too. |
| [05:26:55] | iamlindoro: | alowishus, you can just delete the channel;s with mythweb |
| [05:27:08] | siXy: | but its not sufficently better than eit to be worth the faff |
| [05:27:16] | siXy: | hmm... not come across tms |
| [05:27:20] | kormoc: | Alowishus, sad, in mysql you can just truncate channel and then it should be good |
| [05:27:22] | L0ng0n3: | you know i dont mind that but im not sue the wife wil be patient with it.. she loves her TV |
| [05:27:27] | Alowishus: | iamlindoro: ok... yeah I did that before to clear out some bogus QAM channels... |
| [05:27:29] | iamlindoro: | Channel editor in settings, first check box on the left, check all the ones you want to delete, and press update |
| [05:28:07] | Alowishus: | kormoc: zuh? truncate? you mean basically just remove the rows... same thing I'd be doing thru mythweb per iamlindoro's suggestion? |
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| [05:28:56] | kormoc: | well, TRUNCATE is a mysql keyword to just empty the table. same result, less manual work |
| [05:31:18] | Alowishus: | kormoc: wait so truncate basically empties the channel table entirely... and then mythfilldb would put it back per what's in SD? |
| [05:31:26] | kormoc: | yup |
| [05:31:37] | Alowishus: | that sounds like fun |
| [05:31:39] | Alowishus: | let's try |
| [05:32:35] | Alowishus: | wait though... I carefully went through and detected and pruned a bunch of QAM stuff... I don't want to have to do that again |
| [05:32:50] | kormoc: | yeah, that would kill that |
| [05:33:08] | Alowishus: | ok I'll just pick and choose thru mythweb... :D |
| [05:33:56] | tcpsyn: | damn. |
| [05:34:20] | tcpsyn: | I transcoded it up, now the ps3 just says "the data is corrupt" rather than "unsupported data" |
| [05:34:23] | tcpsyn: | lame. |
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| [06:00:14] | buzzed: | any good options for down loading tv shows into mythtv? |
| [06:01:38] | kormoc: | mythvideo |
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| [06:10:46] | tcpsyn: | Nice... |
| [06:10:56] | tcpsyn: | VLC can change the container so it plays back on the ps3 |
| [06:11:10] | tcpsyn: | if I could use vlc to do the transcode instead of mythtranscode... |
| [06:11:14] | tcpsyn: | life would be good |
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| [06:54:23] | jeffery: | anyone know why I am getting "modprobe: FATAL: Error inserting cx88_dvb" in my start-up log |
| [06:55:04] | kormoc: | Cause modprobe is having a fatal error inserting cx88_dvb |
| [06:55:30] | jeffery: | kormoc, I understand that part.. but why |
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| [06:55:54] | cesman: | jeffery: what distro are you using? |
| [06:56:03] | jeffery: | openSUSE 10.3 |
| [06:56:22] | cesman: | do you have a tuner that uses that module? |
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| [06:56:43] | cesman: | BTW:does dmesg give you more info? |
| [06:57:41] | jeffery: | cesman, yes I believe so: http://crickey.fernandez.net.au/distroinfo.php |
| [07:03:02] | jeffery: | cesman, http://pastebin.com/m6ed5355b log from dmesg |
| [07:04:04] | jeffery: | and this is the lspci: http://pastebin.com/d725f0e35 |
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| [07:08:03] | cesman: | jeffery: sorry, nothing sticks out |
| [07:12:07] | jeffery: | ok |
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| [08:06:58] | cbrunner: | hey anyone around? |
| [08:07:03] | cbrunner: | I am having the strangest issue |
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| [08:08:42] | ServerSage: | cbrunner: Just ask your question and then linger. |
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| [08:11:44] | cbrunner: | sorry |
| [08:12:02] | cbrunner: | ok well, I am trying to get Xorg to put out in 1280x720 |
| [08:12:10] | cbrunner: | using the nvidia driver |
| [08:12:18] | cbrunner: | and what is really weird in my Xorg |
| [08:12:30] | cbrunner: | is it validates a 1280x720 mode |
| [08:12:40] | cbrunner: | but then says no 1280x720 modes valid |
| [08:12:48] | cbrunner: | it makes no sense |
| [08:13:26] | ServerSage: | cbrunner: Chances are you don't have a modeline for 1280x720 for your display. |
| [08:13:41] | cbrunner: | no, ive tried every mode line |
| [08:13:51] | cbrunner: | ive tried them, its doing something really weird |
| [08:13:58] | cbrunner: | im not even trying custom modelines right now |
| [08:14:03] | cbrunner: | because it validates a modeline |
| [08:14:09] | cbrunner: | I had to set logverbose to 6 |
| [08:14:11] | cbrunner: | to see it |
| [08:14:12] | cbrunner: | but it is |
| [08:14:17] | ServerSage: | cbrunner: I doubt you have tried "every" modeline. There are an infinite number of them. |
| [08:14:19] | cbrunner: | can you look at my pastebin? |
| [08:14:25] | cbrunner: | ok well I have tried a lot |
| [08:14:39] | cbrunner: | and I have tried custom mode lines for what res/refresh/pixel clock I need |
| [08:14:43] | ServerSage: | cbrunner: Nope, because you haven't given me a link. |
| [08:15:26] | cbrunner: | im making it right now |
| [08:15:27] | cbrunner: | sorry |
| [08:15:40] | cbrunner: | http://pastebin.com/m7e7882c3 |
| [08:15:42] | cbrunner: | there it is |
| [08:15:46] | cbrunner: | look at what happens |
| [08:15:59] | cbrunner: | at line 686 |
| [08:16:57] | ServerSage: | cbrunner: That just says the card supports 1280x720. Not the display. |
| [08:17:01] | cbrunner: | but then at line 2793 |
| [08:17:21] | cbrunner: | are you sure? |
| [08:17:36] | ServerSage: | cbrunner: Nope, I make stuff up all the time. :) |
| [08:17:38] | cbrunner: | I think that is for the display |
| [08:17:45] | ServerSage: | cbrunner: Take a look at 2760 – 2780. |
| [08:17:53] | ServerSage: | cbrunner: Those are the modes that it thinks your TV can use. |
| [08:18:30] | cbrunner: | I know that, thats what it ends up |
| [08:18:34] | cbrunner: | thinking are valid modes |
| [08:18:42] | cbrunner: | but it validated that other mode |
| [08:18:51] | cbrunner: | it said the pixel rate, and refresh and rez |
| [08:18:53] | cbrunner: | were validated |
| [08:19:00] | cbrunner: | and if you look at the EDID information it gets |
| [08:19:02] | ServerSage: | cbrunner: You are confused. The validated modes are what your video card support. |
| [08:19:05] | cbrunner: | one sec, let me fine the line |
| [08:19:33] | cbrunner: | line 547 |
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| [08:19:46] | cbrunner: | thats the EDID info |
| [08:19:53] | cbrunner: | for the display it is getting |
| [08:20:47] | cbrunner: | and as you can see |
| [08:20:50] | cbrunner: | it matches exactly |
| [08:20:53] | cbrunner: | the mode I pointed out |
| [08:20:59] | cbrunner: | at line 686 |
| [08:21:13] | cbrunner: | so why is that mode not showing up in the mode pool? |
| [08:21:37] | ServerSage: | cbrunner: Try telling the nvidia drive to not do a modevalidation, or to ignore edid info. |
| [08:21:49] | cbrunner: | tried it |
| [08:21:51] | cbrunner: | many times |
| [08:22:01] | cbrunner: | tried turning off every possible check |
| [08:22:14] | ServerSage: | cbrunner: Have you tried 1080p since your TV supports it? |
| [08:22:26] | cbrunner: | the only resolution |
| [08:22:33] | cbrunner: | that it will show up |
| [08:22:39] | cbrunner: | are the ones in that mode pool you can see |
| [08:22:44] | cbrunner: | the highest is 1024x768 |
| [08:23:02] | ServerSage: | Feel free to put a complete sentence in a single post. :) I don't like reading a sentence over 4 posts. |
| [08:23:15] | cbrunner: | sorry... |
| [08:24:06] | cbrunner: | im just at my wits end, ive been digging and digging to finally find out that it is getting my EDID info fine, finding a mode the card supports that the monitor supports, validating it... and then just not adding it to the mode pool... so I cant possibly select it... and ive tried turning off the mode validation checks. |
| [08:24:09] | ServerSage: | cbrunner: Did you try the nvidia built in modes? |
| [08:24:23] | cbrunner: | what do you mean? |
| [08:24:50] | ServerSage: | cbrunner: In the screen section, try putting "Modes "1280x720_60" |
| [08:24:56] | ServerSage: | Oops, too many " in there. :) |
| [08:25:16] | ServerSage: | cbrunner: I think that is a built in supported mode by the nvidia card. Might kick it into submission. |
| [08:25:38] | ServerSage: | cbrunner: Actually, can you pastebin your xorg.conf? |
| [08:26:12] | cbrunner: | yea |
| [08:26:22] | cbrunner: | I was just using the default xorg.conf there from ubuntu |
| [08:26:32] | cbrunner: | which is basically nothing with a Mode nvidia-autoselect-mode |
| [08:26:46] | cbrunner: | or nvidia-auto-select, I mean |
| [08:27:05] | cbrunner: | im gonna try this xorg: |
| [08:27:36] | ServerSage: | cbrunner: Using a default non-modified xorg.conf probably isn't going to work. :) |
| [08:27:48] | cbrunner: | http://pastebin.com/m1ecbb008 |
| [08:27:59] | cbrunner: | oh believe me, ive tried plenty of other ones |
| [08:28:06] | cbrunner: | with plenty of different modelines ive created |
| [08:28:20] | cbrunner: | the crazy thing is the default xorg SHOULD work... because its finding the right mode, validating it |
| [08:28:27] | Tanthrix: | Who else here thinks Bee Movie is going to fail horrible due to overhyping? |
| [08:28:35] | cbrunner: | and somewhere nvidia is just like nope im not gonna use that... and nope im not gonna log why |
| [08:29:24] | ServerSage: | cbrunner: Yeah, thats probably not gonna work. :) |
| [08:29:31] | cbrunner: | why wont that work? |
| [08:30:02] | cbrunner: | and btw that conf I just showed you works perfectly on my friends who has the exact same tv and basically the exact same myth tv box |
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| [08:30:10] | cbrunner: | it makes no sense at all... |
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| [08:30:20] | ServerSage: | cbrunner: What version of the nvidia drivers does he have? |
| [08:30:32] | ServerSage: | cbrunner: Are you running the same version? Same distro? |
| [08:30:36] | ServerSage: | Same video card? |
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| [08:32:49] | cbrunner: | same version same distro yea |
| [08:33:05] | cbrunner: | its an onboard nvidia board on both different brand boards but same chipset |
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| [08:36:56] | ServerSage: | cbrunner: Well, something must be different. Trick is figuring out what. Are you sure your xorg.conf is identical to his? |
| [08:38:25] | cbrunner: | yea |
| [08:38:27] | cbrunner: | he sent it to me |
| [08:39:14] | cbrunner: | looks like a bug in the nvidia drivers |
| [08:39:27] | ServerSage: | cbrunner: Try a different version. |
| [08:39:42] | cbrunner: | yea ill probably do that tomorrow |
| [08:39:48] | cbrunner: | too much work for tonight |
| [08:39:58] | ServerSage: | cbrunner: What distro? |
| [08:40:02] | cbrunner: | ubuntu |
| [08:40:06] | cbrunner: | gutsy gibbon |
| [08:40:10] | justinh: | nvidia love changing xorg.conf syntax just for the hell of it |
| [08:40:13] | ServerSage: | cbrunner: apt-get makes it easy. |
| [08:40:23] | cbrunner: | to get a different version? |
| [08:40:26] | ServerSage: | justinh: True dat. |
| [08:40:49] | justinh: | unless you read their docs before installing/updating it's very easy to miss things |
| [08:41:53] | justinh: | they're as bad as Gentoo sometimes :P "oh yeah, we changed the syntax of the config file stuff. It was just _wrong_ before but now it's much more (ahem) logical" |
| [08:44:18] | ServerSage: | justinh: Can we say libexpat? :) |
| [08:45:57] | cbrunner: | trying turning off some more checks |
| [08:46:08] | cbrunner: | one more time... and rebooting... after this its bed |
| [08:46:20] | cbrunner: | nvidia should really be doing a better job on their drivers |
| [08:46:23] | ServerSage: | cbrunner: Bed? Sleep when you're dead. |
| [08:46:32] | cbrunner: | these are junk |
| [08:46:34] | cbrunner: | and I have work tomorrow |
| [08:46:38] | justinh: | I dunno about that, but I remember the joys of getting apache working again when they decided to use the 'proper' apache config scheme. That was a frustrating half day. PHP took some effort to get going aswell – turned out my random number generator wasn't quite random enough. "Need more atrophy". Funny but that wasn't a dependency of apache ;) |
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| [08:47:13] | ServerSage: | justinh: Aaah yes, the fun apache digest problem. |
| [08:47:23] | ServerSage: | justinh: It would hang and just sit there forever... |
| [08:47:28] | justinh: | nvidia should be doing a better job with their drivers? rofl. I think ATI should answer that criticism before nvidia. at least nvidia's drivers work for the most part |
| [08:48:02] | cbrunner: | OMG |
| [08:48:04] | cbrunner: | I may have done it |
| [08:48:30] | cbrunner: | yea AZTI is no better |
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| [08:49:12] | cbrunner: | hah! |
| [08:49:12] | cbrunner: | I did it |
| [08:49:18] | cbrunner: | their drivers are just buggy |
| [08:49:26] | ** justinh hands cbrunner a bowl of cherries ** | |
| [08:49:35] | cbrunner: | I cant believe I did it... I had been trying for honestly a week and a half |
| [08:49:38] | cbrunner: | wooohooo |
| [08:50:36] | justinh: | in this case I think 'their drivers are just buggy' means "they changed some variables' syntax & I didn't know til now" |
| [08:50:56] | justinh: | stuff rarely just starts working like that ;) |
| [08:51:03] | cbrunner: | haha omg |
| [08:51:07] | cbrunner: | it looks perfect, 720p |
| [08:51:11] | cbrunner: | full screen! |
| [08:51:19] | cbrunner: | no man, the drivers are buggy |
| [08:51:21] | ServerSage: | cbrunner: Are you a 13 year old girl? omg? sigh |
| [08:51:26] | tim9431: | this is more an lirc ? but i just upgraded frome fiesty to gutsy and i cant get lirc to work...juts sits there when i try to start it..should i just remove lirc and start over??? |
| [08:51:32] | cbrunner: | the comparisons that they are doing in the drivers are wrong |
| [08:51:50] | justinh: | I was like OMG! It works! w00t! then I danced with my little cute doggy for hours & hours & hours... |
| [08:52:29] | cbrunner: | they are comparing the EDID information against the modeline and the it says its too large, when it actually isnt and if you look at the numbers it is wrong |
| [08:52:30] | ** ServerSage hands justinh a cute little sweater for his purse puppy. ** | |
| [08:53:12] | ServerSage: | Isn't ATI supposed to be open sourcing the 2d portion of their drivers by the end of the year? |
| [08:53:19] | ServerSage: | By ATI I really mean AMD. |
| [08:53:54] | justinh: | our dog wanted to eat some shitty little purse dog that was dressed in a Santa costume last weekend. I should've let him |
| [08:55:25] | ServerSage: | One of our dogs likes to hump purse puppies. I think it has something to do with his bad hips, he can actually get on top of the small dogs... |
| [08:55:33] | ** justinh looks for his edible hat incase ATI ever do open source their drivers properly ** | |
| [08:56:30] | justinh: | I'm putting money on the fact they'll release some code, then never do anything with it – thereby forcing the community to sort out the whole mess, a lot like Via did with unichrome |
| [08:59:17] | cbrunner: | I am going to bed a happy man |
| [08:59:17] | cbrunner: | thanks for the help guys |
| [08:59:17] | cbrunner: | my myth tv box is finally in full screen 720p |
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| [09:12:01] | tim9431: | damn i think i have to redo everything again! |
| [09:12:36] | tim9431: | should have never clicked upgrade button when everything was working fine |
| [09:13:04] | ServerSage: | tim9431: You should never have to redo everything. |
| [09:14:24] | tim9431: | lirc took crap and i dont know how to get it working...only been playing w/ linux for a few months |
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| [09:16:32] | ServerSage: | tim9431: Then you should figure out why and learn something along the way. :) |
| [09:17:12] | tim9431: | im trying im just getting irritable:-p long nite |
| [09:17:39] | justinh: | lirc prolly needs to be recompiled after a 'press this button to upgradify everything, dummy' incident – esp. if the kernel was updated too |
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| [09:19:16] | tim9431: | it was i tried redoing it but it caused it to hang so i got rid of lirc completly and redid it...got the remote working again...now gotta get blaster working again |
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| [09:20:41] | justinh: | my production backend is still running Feisty. it works (tm) so I see no reason to upgrade _anything_ on it. I update mythtv occasionally but am still running 0.20-fixes |
| [09:21:11] | ServerSage: | justinh: I'm on Gentoo and update every day. And for some reason, I spent every day fixing things... |
| [09:21:33] | justinh: | lol |
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| [09:23:34] | justinh: | when I used gentoo I didn't update anything for months. lots of stuff got badly broken & would take days to fix because of their imfamous "We'll change the config stuff & only tell the user in all that scroilly text they tend to ignore – and unless they know about the emerge log viewer they'll only find oiut when stuff breaks. muhahahahaha!" |
| [09:24:19] | justinh: | in the end I just opted for a simpler life & installed ubunuts |
| [09:24:31] | AL13N: | i start mythtv just with 'startx /usr/bin/mythwelcome', and after a while, the TV is black, (i think my X is going into standby), how do i get out of it programmatorically? |
| [09:24:41] | ServerSage: | justinh: I like pain I guess. :-P |
| [09:24:46] | justinh: | I lost maybe 2.5% of performance or whatever but hey |
| [09:25:08] | justinh: | AL13N: sounds like you need to disable X screen blankyfying ;) |
| [09:25:50] | slaine_: | justinh, I'd something similar a few years back. Gentoo helped my aging PII-450Mhz box live well past it's EOL date on other distros |
| [09:26:28] | slaine_: | Tried to emerge in some new gnome stuff that wasn't released, b0rked the gcc setup and couldn't get it working again after that |
| [09:26:44] | slaine_: | Ended up sticking BeOS on it with a browser update and giving it away |
| [09:26:46] | justinh: | yeah when gcc breaks you're royally screwed |
| [09:27:21] | ** ServerSage hugs his gentoo systems. ** | |
| [09:27:50] | ServerSage: | They give me something to do, and get me away from the wife. |
| [09:28:07] | slaine_: | Giving it another shot after many years of absence on an olde Vaio 650MHz laptop as we type |
| [09:28:25] | slaine_: | Gonna compare it against Fedora 8 when it's out |
| [09:28:38] | justinh: | I tried fedora once. that was enough |
| [09:29:00] | ServerSage: | What a train wreck fedora has become. |
| [09:29:15] | justinh: | I'm not suggesting for one second that ubunuts is perfect but it's the least unfriendly to me ;) |
| [09:29:44] | ServerSage: | You can't go wrong with apt-get. |
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| [10:01:29] | AL13N: | justinh: any idea how? |
| [10:03:12] | justinh: | google knows |
| [10:03:32] | rooaus: | AL13N: "xset -dpms s off" in your .xinitrc |
| [10:03:51] | rooaus: | works for me |
| [10:03:54] | AL13N: | ah |
| [10:04:05] | AL13N: | so it's dpms that is responsible |
| [10:04:11] | AL13N: | i can disable it in x.org conf |
| [10:04:16] | AL13N: | i think |
| [10:04:18] | AL13N: | i hope |
| [10:04:21] | AL13N: | thanks for the help |
| [10:04:55] | rooaus: | That turns off dpms and screensaver from memory, could be either I guess. Give it a try. |
| [10:07:24] | ** rooaus shuts down laptop to install more ram :D ** | |
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| [11:31:09] | mr_claus: | hi, i'm looking for a new tv card and have seen that the pvr-350 is not recommended because there is no opengl support, which cards are the best ones if i purchase a new one today? |
| [11:36:24] | justinh: | still hauppauge pvr cards |
| [11:36:36] | justinh: | for tv output get a nvidia fx5200 or similar |
| [11:40:09] | mr_claus: | ok, so other cards with opengl support are not available yet? |
| [11:41:04] | justinh: | opengl in mythtv isn't a big deal right now |
| [11:41:19] | justinh: | might be in future, but really isn't at the moment |
| [11:42:02] | justinh: | FWIW though you'd be wasting your money buying a pvr350, since it only helps your CPU decode mpeg1 & mpeg2. divx/xvid/h264 etc will all use your cpu |
| [11:42:34] | jduggan: | heh roll on the days when hardware decoding of x264 comes to linux |
| [11:42:43] | justinh: | if you're planning to use a 200mhz cpu my advice would be to forget about it & use a modern computer instead |
| [11:42:55] | jduggan: | even 2ghz dualcore struggles using latest svn of mplayer/ffmpeg |
| [11:43:06] | jduggan: | with 1080p video |
| [11:43:07] | justinh: | jduggan: h264 HD maybe |
| [11:43:11] | justinh: | ;) |
| [11:43:21] | jduggan: | yea |
| [11:43:50] | justinh: | I thought it was all sorted now. somebody told me I'll prolly be fine with a core2 duo 1.8ghz like a mac mini, for HD in h.264 |
| [11:44:10] | justinh: | actually HDTV is really ever only going to be 1080i for the forseeable future anyway |
| [11:44:25] | jduggan: | to be honest my onboard intel graphics doesnt help |
| [11:44:39] | jduggan: | ive taken various 1080p samples and it gets by, but could be better |
| [11:44:41] | justinh: | mac mini has intel graphics onboard too |
| [11:44:45] | jduggan: | ah :) |
| [11:44:50] | jduggan: | there's a known bug using xv output |
| [11:44:53] | justinh: | how's it with 1080i? |
| [11:44:56] | jduggan: | which affects me |
| [11:45:08] | jduggan: | 1080i is ok actually |
| [11:45:19] | justinh: | cpu usage in the high 80s ? |
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| [11:45:46] | jduggan: | id say about 60% on both cores |
| [11:45:53] | mr_claus: | i would try to use the backend in a xen domU, which part of mythtv will decode the stream, the frontend or the backend? |
| [11:45:54] | justinh: | not bad :) |
| [11:46:08] | justinh: | mr_claus: you're kidding. that won't work well |
| [11:46:11] | Dibblah: | justinh: Not with current SVN (for h.264) |
| [11:46:33] | Dibblah: | The decoding thread is single threaded at the moment. |
| [11:46:34] | justinh: | frontend _always_ does the playback |
| [11:46:41] | justinh: | Dibblah: booooo! |
| [11:47:03] | Dibblah: | janneg has ported the required patchset. |
| [11:47:05] | justinh: | plenty time yet anyway. got til 2012 at least :D |
| [11:47:11] | Dibblah: | But... Not in SVN ;) |
| [11:47:24] | mr_claus: | justinh: i have read it should work with the backend, the frontend should run on a seperate hardware which will have enough performance to decode |
| [11:48:50] | Dibblah: | Involving Xen is a silly idea, if you'll pardon me saying :) |
| [11:48:57] | hashbang: | mr_claus: as you're in Europe, why not get a DVB-T rather than analogue card? |
| [11:49:31] | hashbang: | mr_claus: I run two Nova-Ts in my Celeron 1.7 Myth box |
| [11:49:46] | hashbang: | mr_claus: gonna try one + a dual-tuner Nova-T-500 |
| [11:50:00] | mr_claus: | hashbang: so you record digitital and you are able to play it on a non dvb-t device? |
| [11:50:12] | hashbang: | mr_claus: sure. DVB-T is just MPEG over radio. |
| [11:50:35] | hashbang: | mr_claus: the frontend just plays it on its normal X11 display |
| [11:50:55] | hashbang: | mr_claus: you can configure your VGA card to do composite/SVideo out |
| [11:51:04] | hashbang: | mr_claus: or you could build a VGA->RGB SCART cable |
| [11:51:20] | hashbang: | mr_claus: the latter will give much better picture quality |
| [11:51:41] | hashbang: | mr_claus: or, if your TV has VGA or HDMI input, of course... |
| [11:51:43] | mr_claus: | hashbang: i have to check out if there is a dvb-t signal on my cable tv |
| [11:52:08] | hashbang: | mr_claus: I thought DVB-T was everywhere in Germany already? |
| [11:52:26] | mr_claus: | hashbang: yes, should be, i never used it until now |
| [11:52:46] | hashbang: | mr_claus: or, if you've got cable, you could look into a DVB-C card |
| [11:53:06] | Dibblah: | ... Or possibly not, depending on your provider. |
| [11:53:07] | hashbang: | mr_claus: but you'd need to check a) your cableco uses DVB and b) you can find some way of doing any authentication they require |
| [11:56:24] | mr_claus: | hashbang: ok, dvb-t is available |
| [11:56:55] | mr_claus: | hashbang: so i would not need any performance on the backend because i stream only mpeg2 from the cable to my disks, right? |
| [11:57:12] | hashbang: | mr_claus: essentially, yes |
| [11:57:28] | hashbang: | mr_claus: the DVB-T card just picks a stream and dumps it via PCI |
| [11:57:40] | mr_claus: | hashbang: are there different cards to connect to cable or antenna to get dvb-t? |
| [11:57:50] | hashbang: | mr_claus: and, assuming you've got a good quality DVB-T signal, then you'll get a perfect digital recording. |
| [11:57:52] | justinh: | mr_claus: yes |
| [11:58:03] | Dibblah: | Again, not cable. |
| [11:58:17] | justinh: | digital cable needs a dvb-c card |
| [11:58:17] | Dibblah: | You will not get DVB-t over cable. |
| [11:58:23] | hashbang: | mr_claus: Hauppauge have a couple of DVB-T (Terrestrial Broadcast) cards |
| [11:58:34] | hashbang: | mr_claus: what justinh and Dibblah just said. |
| [11:58:55] | mr_claus: | Dibblah: why not? |
| [11:59:01] | hashbang: | DVB-S = satellite, DVB-T = terrestrial, DVB-C = cable, DVB-H = uh, 'Handy'? ;-) |
| [11:59:02] | justinh: | some new cards can do dvb-c and dvb-t as well as dvb-s but in all honesty I would avoid them |
| [11:59:47] | Dibblah: | Because your cable company won't waste a cable on an over-the-air format. |
| [11:59:51] | justinh: | 1) they don't yet have linux drivers and 2) you'll never be able to use more than one standard at a time. so all dvb-t or all dvb-c etc |
| [12:00:56] | Dibblah: | DVB-t == from an antenna pointing at your local (terrestrial) transmitter. |
| [12:01:29] | Dibblah: | It's simpler because the local programming is mostly not encrypted, therefore no legal hurdles to decrypt it. |
| [12:01:50] | mr_claus: | Dibblah: on the website of the cable company they explain that digital senders are used together with analog signals |
| [12:01:51] | Dibblah: | Whereas DVB-c is usually encrypted. |
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| [12:02:24] | Dibblah: | mr_claus: Yes... And those 'digital senders' are DVB-c. |
| [12:02:38] | mr_claus: | Dibblah: ok |
| [12:02:53] | mr_claus: | Dibblah: so i would need a dvb-c card |
| [12:03:10] | justinh: | :-O Leo Sayer just walked into the office! |
| [12:03:31] | Dibblah: | I would recommend DVB-t and an antenna, for the reasons above. |
| [12:03:41] | hashbang: | mr_claus: what Dibblah said. ;-) |
| [12:03:45] | Dibblah: | It's not just as simple as plugging in a DVB-c card. |
| [12:04:23] | mr_claus: | Dibblah: hmm, perhaps i should by a videorecorder :( |
| [12:04:23] | Dibblah: | (You'd need at a minimum a DVB-c card with CAM slot, a CAM and a subscription card permanently inserted into the CAM) |
| [12:04:53] | Dibblah: | That's all assuming CAMs for your provider are available. |
| [12:05:18] | mr_claus: | Dibblah: in germany we have digital signals which are free to use |
| [12:05:29] | mr_claus: | Dibblah: do i need a cam too for that channels |
| [12:05:34] | Dibblah: | (Which is not true for Videoguard (NDS), Nagra 2, ...) |
| [12:06:10] | Dibblah: | mr_claus: Like I said before a couple of times, that applies to DVB-t signals from an antenna. NOT to your cable company cable. |
| [12:06:45] | Dibblah: | Usually, cable companies are lazy / greedy and encrypt ALL channels on the cable. |
| [12:06:57] | mr_claus: | Dibblah: ok, so i would be able to start with a dvb-c card with using analog signals and later if i want to use a cam i can do that with the same card? |
| [12:07:04] | Dibblah: | No. |
| [12:07:20] | Dibblah: | DVB-c is all-digital in most cases. There's no way to do analog capture. |
| [12:07:22] | mr_claus: | like i said --> videorecorder :) |
| [12:07:49] | Dibblah: | The other way is the common way. Attach to the output of your set top box. |
| [12:07:51] | mr_claus: | at the moment i use cable with a ordinary tv without any set top box |
| [12:08:37] | Dibblah: | Okay. In which case, you could attach a hauppauge PVR150/500 to the cable and get the analog channels. |
| [12:09:52] | mr_claus: | Dibblah: does it makes sense to use a pvr350 because i have to encode the streams in mpeg2? |
| [12:10:01] | Dibblah: | No. |
| [12:10:20] | Dibblah: | The 150/250/500 are all essentially the same card. |
| [12:10:34] | mr_claus: | 350 is with hardware encoding |
| [12:10:40] | Dibblah: | The difference with the 350 is that it includes an mpeg _decoder_. |
| [12:11:23] | Dibblah: | All of the above series have a hardware mpeg2 encoder. |
| [12:11:53] | mr_claus: | ah, ok, i see, thx for that hint |
| [12:11:57] | Dibblah: | Specifically, the 350 has a composite / svideo output to connect to your TV. |
| [12:12:03] | Dibblah: | The others only have inputs. |
| [12:12:14] | mr_claus: | yes, i would not need the output on the backend |
| [12:12:15] | Dibblah: | ... I wouldn't recommend using the 350's output. |
| [12:12:45] | Dibblah: | Basically because it's not used by many people, hence not particularly well supported. |
| [12:12:45] | mr_claus: | yes, i have read it on the mythtv wiki thats it's not recommended, i will first start with building the backend |
| [12:13:10] | justinh: | how in the world do capture cards work in a virtual environment anyway?! |
| [12:13:18] | Dibblah: | Technically, it *should* be higher quality output, but that doesn't work in real life. |
| [12:13:32] | Dibblah: | justinh: Paravirtualisation / passthrough. |
| [12:13:39] | justinh: | bleh |
| [12:13:46] | justinh: | why virtualise it anyway? |
| [12:13:48] | Dibblah: | You pass the PCI device into the guest. |
| [12:14:04] | Dibblah: | ... Because you're a control freak, mainly. |
| [12:14:17] | justinh: | oh I forgot. it's teh latest buzz & every lamer & his cat is doing it now |
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| [12:14:30] | Dibblah: | It's not even full virtualisation. And it's dangerous for many, many devices. |
| [12:15:10] | Dibblah: | Technical reason is that most PCI devices have DMA controllers. This means that they're free to scribble over Dom0's memory. |
| [12:15:16] | mr_claus: | i have read that it worked with mythtv and the devices, i have to check out which devices should work without any problem |
| [12:15:33] | Dibblah: | Really. Don't bother. |
| [12:15:56] | justinh: | why would you even need to run mythbackend in a VM? |
| [12:16:14] | Dibblah: | ... Because you don't trust it. |
| [12:16:21] | justinh: | what?! |
| [12:16:27] | mr_claus: | it's really simple, i have not much room, i don't want to have a lot of machines because i want to consume power |
| [12:16:28] | Dibblah: | Yes. It's silly. |
| [12:16:48] | justinh: | mr_claus: you can run mythbackend & mythfrontend on the same machine |
| [12:17:04] | mr_claus: | i could but i don't want to do that |
| [12:17:10] | justinh: | even as the same user!!!!! |
| [12:17:10] | Dibblah: | You can even run the database on the same machine. |
| [12:17:15] | Dibblah: | And your mail server. |
| [12:17:16] | mr_claus: | backend == cellar, frontend == living room |
| [12:17:21] | Dibblah: | And your porn collection. |
| [12:17:32] | justinh: | mr_claus: virtualising it is going to be a nightmare |
| [12:17:50] | justinh: | I don't care who says it _can_ be done I agree with Dibblah in saying you really don't want to go there |
| [12:18:04] | Dibblah: | mr_claus: Seriously. Worst case – Install it in your Dom0. |
| [12:18:11] | mr_claus: | why not trying it first? |
| [12:18:16] | Dibblah: | But even then you may have 'issues'. |
| [12:18:49] | Dibblah: | (context switch latency on devices with small buffers such as capture cards is _not_ good) |
| [12:19:25] | Dibblah: | And before you say the 150 has up to a 16Mb buffer, it doesn't. |
| [12:19:34] | Dibblah: | That's in the driver, not the hardware. |
| [12:19:42] | mr_claus: | http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/CoolConfigu . . . 1d9e9a1c4d56 |
| [12:20:16] | mr_claus: | first i will try it and if it doesn't work i have all the time of the world to build it on a seperate machine |
| [12:20:19] | justinh: | virtualising silly stuff just because you can is stupid. nay, retarded |
| [12:20:53] | Dibblah: | mr_claus: As long as you do _nothing_ heavy in your Dom0, that _may_ be ok. |
| [12:21:53] | Dibblah: | Sticking to the well-trodden-path is usually easier ;) |
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| [12:21:58] | justinh: | oh God. why the hell is a listarea in the ui drawing the 'selected' item on top of an 'active' item? for fucks' sake! |
| [12:22:44] | Dibblah: | Time for the mythUI port ;) |
| [12:22:50] | directhex|work: | justinh, could be worse. try writing ncurses guis! |
| [12:23:12] | Dibblah: | Try writing a complex menu system in Kixstart. |
| [12:23:45] | Dibblah: | ... Arrays in a language with no arrays was particularly entertaining. |
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| [12:24:10] | directhex|work: | Dibblah, linked lists! |
| [12:24:33] | Dibblah: | Wouldn't really have worked for this application. |
| [12:25:56] | directhex|work: | double-linked lists! |
| [12:26:23] | ** directhex|work is writing an ncurses gui in c# for .net right now ** | |
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| [13:51:50] | tcpsyn: | morning |
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| [14:00:17] | Hoxzer: | well, morning morning but is afternoon here |
| [14:00:32] | ** Hoxzer is trying to recover mythtv recording \ ** | |
| [14:00:51] | ** Hoxzer atm I'm using dd_rescue for image creation ** | |
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| [14:47:01] | godzirra: | So is there anything that suggests new shows you might like on MythTV? (similar to Tivo's suggestions?) |
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| [14:47:08] | GreyFoxx: | Nope |
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| [14:47:27] | GreyFoxx: | Everyonce in a while someone popups saying they want to work on that, but so far nothing as every been produced that I've seen |
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| [14:47:35] | godzirra: | Damn. |
| [14:48:25] | justinh: | people have big concerns about privacy |
| [14:48:33] | GreyFoxx: | yeah |
| [14:49:15] | godzirra: | over what shows they watch? |
| [14:49:36] | GreyFoxx: | yes |
| [14:49:54] | GreyFoxx: | A lot of people don'twant everyone to know they watch TheView :) |
| [14:49:56] | Andycasss: | When is the new mythtv coming out? I cannot wait for the iptv support |
| [14:49:58] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [14:50:23] | GreyFoxx: | Andycasss: There was support in 0.20* but it's improved in svn. There is no specific plan on whenthe next release will be |
| [14:50:38] | justinh: | anyway, with the suggestion stuff being OSS it could all too easily be hacked & spammed |
| [14:50:39] | GreyFoxx: | a lot more development has been going on in the last couple weeks so that pushes it out a bit |
| [14:50:55] | justinh: | resistance is futile :P |
| [14:51:01] | Andycasss: | The thing is, i have only 3 channels in air, but on iptv i have over 50 |
| [14:51:07] | godzirra: | Heh. |
| [14:51:10] | justinh: | bah to iptv |
| [14:51:12] | godzirra: | So make it optional? |
| [14:51:14] | GreyFoxx: | yeah, you could script something to pull recording history and have a webpage (or mythweb mod) to suggest stuff |
| [14:51:29] | godzirra: | I'd write it but unfortunately I don't know how to get a list of things to suggest. |
| [14:51:36] | justinh: | ask people! |
| [14:51:54] | godzirra: | Perhaps I should actually get mythtv running first :) |
| [14:52:01] | godzirra: | I've not managed to find a tv tuner card locally yet. |
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| [14:53:37] | godzirra: | I guess if I could make a central repository that people actually used, I could make a database where if you opt in your recording history gets uploaded, and anyone that has a recording history with X in it that likes Y will suggest Y to anyone else who has X? |
| [14:53:44] | godzirra: | That seems simply enough if I can get enough users to use it. |
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| [15:02:59] | tcpsyn: | Can I use replace mythtranscode with VLC? |
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| [15:11:58] | tcpsyn: | I'm trying to use vlc to change the container of my atsc recordings so they playback on my ps3... mythtranscode produces unusable files.. but If I use vlc, they work just fine. |
| [15:12:31] | tcpsyn: | So I guess I could set up a user job to run vlc.. but I'd rather find a cleaner way |
| [15:13:39] | tcpsyn: | Also I've noticed that they wont play back using myths upnp server |
| [15:13:45] | tcpsyn: | but If I use media tomb, they do |
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| [15:33:47] | BULLE: | tcpsyn: best bet i can come up with is to wait for the next release of mythtv realy |
| [15:33:52] | BULLE: | tcpsyn: and to log a bug report abuot the issue |
| [15:34:16] | AL13N: | if i try play movies, it says no movies found, do i need to execute something that would make an index or something? |
| [15:34:24] | AL13N: | BULLE: i got lircrc to work |
| [15:34:29] | BULLE: | AL13N: nice |
| [15:34:38] | BULLE: | AL13N: playing movies in mythvideo ? |
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| [15:35:15] | AL13N: | i had to start irxevent with daemon option together with mythwelcome in a script |
| [15:35:24] | AL13N: | BULLE: i donno how it is called |
| [15:35:32] | AL13N: | BULLE: i know that on mandriva it's a plugin |
| [15:35:45] | BULLE: | AL13N: do you choose watch video or watch recordings ? |
| [15:35:56] | AL13N: | i installed it and under "watch TV" there is something like "media" and "watch video" |
| [15:36:14] | BULLE: | hmm, under watch tv |
| [15:37:11] | AL13N: | i'm saying this all wrong |
| [15:37:13] | BULLE: | AL13N: well,if i choose watch TV i get kicked to livetv directly, no more menues |
| [15:37:17] | AL13N: | the whole thing is translated |
| [15:37:29] | AL13N: | but i did: watch recording and watch video |
| [15:37:35] | BULLE: | AL13N: anyway, lets assume that you are having problems with the mythvide plugin |
| [15:37:37] | AL13N: | but it says: no files found |
| [15:37:51] | BULLE: | watch recordings are for watching stuff you recorded with mythtv |
| [15:37:57] | AL13N: | indeed |
| [15:37:58] | BULLE: | watch videos are for stuff that you downloaded elsewhere |
| [15:38:04] | AL13N: | yes |
| [15:38:10] | AL13N: | i put an .mpg file all over the place |
| [15:38:14] | AL13N: | in all directories |
| [15:38:15] | BULLE: | in order to get watch videos to work, you need to configure it, tell it what directory to look in |
| [15:38:17] | AL13N: | just to test |
| [15:38:24] | AL13N: | indeed as i did |
| [15:38:31] | BULLE: | dunno then |
| [15:38:35] | AL13N: | wait |
| [15:38:38] | AL13N: | user rights |
| [15:38:39] | AL13N: | one moment |
| [15:38:45] | BULLE: | ye, that might very well be the case |
| [15:40:41] | bb_: | can anyone tell me if this remote is compatable with LIRC http://registration.hauppauge.com/webstore/ac . . . oduct=remote |
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| [15:42:45] | BULLE: | bb_: The new Hauppauge remote control can be used with any of the WinTV boards which currently support the existing remote control. |
| [15:42:51] | BULLE: | bb_: so just read the page you pasted the url to |
| [15:43:57] | AL13N: | BULLE: no, it wasn't that |
| [15:44:14] | AL13N: | i went into the db and saw that the directory name was correct |
| [15:44:18] | AL13N: | VideoLocation |
| [15:44:20] | AL13N: | no |
| [15:44:25] | AL13N: | VideoStartupDir |
| [15:44:35] | AL13N: | no files found |
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| [16:07:24] | djc__: | wheee.. recording 3 programs at once on a dual athlon 1900 system load between 1.5 and 2.. ;P |
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| [16:13:04] | iamlindoro: | djc, should be able to record lots and lots so long as yourcapture cards are doing the encoding for you |
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| [16:27:15] | iamlindoro: | Anyone know an alternative to MP4Box for creating an MP4 container from a .264 raw video? |
| [16:28:01] | BULLE: | iamlindoro: i bet ffmpeg can do it with the right flags |
| [16:29:30] | iamlindoro: | Hmmm, probably... Patch just came out for mencoder/ffmpeg to handle TrueHD/E-AC3 from Blu-ray Rips and I'm finally able to transcode them... Based my approach on someone elses script where they stitch it together with mp4box, but I bet you're right and there are probably other ways as well |
| [16:31:15] | dr_lulz: | iamlindoro: mencoder? |
| [16:31:26] | dr_lulz: | erm, nevermind |
| [16:31:28] | iamlindoro: | dr_lulz, yup |
| [16:31:49] | dr_lulz: | just noticed you already mentioned it ;) |
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| [16:32:31] | iamlindoro: | yeah, it's definitely handling the transcoding well, just the MP4 creation from the resulting .264 and .ac3 files... MP4Box core dumps... :( |
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| [16:33:11] | iamlindoro: | Still, if push came to shove, I could always dump those files back over to a windows box and use one of the tools there to put them in a container... Would rather just script it all on my Quad myth box, though. :) |
| [16:33:11] | djc__: | why would fedora package lirc without any of the modules it needs |
| [16:33:42] | djc__: | i know atrpms has them, but apparently not for the latest fedora kernel.. im just wondering why they arent included in fedora's rpm.. or where they officially come from.. |
| [16:33:47] | directhex|work: | because some of the modules have a retarded change-source-to-suit-hardware way of working |
| [16:34:03] | djc__: | would that include the mceusb2 ? |
| [16:34:09] | directhex|work: | no, it wouldn't |
| [16:34:09] | iamlindoro: | djc, if you're up for it, lirc isn't that painful to compile from source if you need to |
| [16:34:33] | djc__: | yeah.. i know.. id just like to stay as distro-true as possible |
| [16:34:57] | iamlindoro: | Well, if tppose you could make your own RPMs after the facthat's the issue, I su |
| [16:35:00] | djc__: | i dont mind compiling, but id still like to install via rp |
| [16:35:02] | djc__: | heh |
| [16:35:05] | iamlindoro: | whoah, that came out weird |
| [16:35:06] | djc__: | read my mind |
| [16:35:18] | iamlindoro: | stupid trackpad |
| [16:35:41] | djc__: | maybe if I can find srpms from axels repo I can rebuild with my kernel |
| [16:37:40] | djc__: | fedora EIGHT? |
| [16:37:56] | djc__: | i didnt realize there was an 8 |
| [16:38:00] | djc__: | wow |
| [16:38:19] | djc__: | oh.. there isnt.. yet |
| [16:48:12] | godzirra: | So out of curiousity, how many people -would- be interested in getting suggestions from their mythtv? |
| [16:48:54] | iamlindoro: | Not me... I have a hard enough time catching up on the TV I actually *want* to watch :) |
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| [16:49:33] | godzirra: | heh |
| [16:49:49] | iamlindoro: | Plus, the inherent awkwardness of explaining to my girlfriend why my myth system recorded "Back Door Beach Party 14" "by itself." |
| [16:49:51] | godzirra: | iamlindoro: so ignore the suggestions and let me use your recorded data to find out what other kinds of shows you like? |
| [16:49:54] | godzirra: | LMAO |
| [16:50:38] | iamlindoro: | I don't have any aversion to sharing my viewing, however, presuming it's all anonymized |
| [16:51:23] | iamlindoro: | In fact, it seems that would be a neat way to offer TMS some demographic/viewing data in exchange for a price break or something |
| [16:51:59] | godzirra: | Well, its not written at all yet. I plan on ahving it mostly anonymous. i.e. your viewing will be tied to -some- sort of unique identifier so that we can keep track of all the shows you view so we can recmomend to others who like some of the same shows as you |
| [16:52:03] | godzirra: | if that makes sense. |
| [16:52:50] | jams: | godzirra- you wouln't happen to me the person that just requested help with a plugin on the mailing list? |
| [16:53:06] | godzirra: | Nope. |
| [16:53:14] | iamlindoro: | I can definitely see *some* people enjoying it, though... I think the complaints you will run in to will be people who are averse to having their data tracked |
| [16:53:24] | godzirra: | jams: I've yet to get my mythtv running at all. i'm still trying to find a tv tnuer card. |
| [16:53:37] | godzirra: | iamlindoro: thats why it will be a plugin. i.e. optional... |
| [16:53:46] | godzirra: | mostly I'm trying to get my wife to move away from tivo, and thats a feature she uses a lot. ;) |
| [16:53:50] | godzirra: | and it cant be that hard to write it. |
| [16:53:59] | jams: | godzirra- you might be interested in http://www.templetons.com/brad/myth/tvwish.html |
| [16:55:01] | iamlindoro: | That's a neat little tool |
| [16:55:13] | godzirra: | Hmmm.. thats kind of neat. |
| [16:56:08] | iamlindoro: | I find that I do most of my adventurous TV watching during the summer... during the TV season, it's hard enough keeping up with recording things, cutting out commercials, transcoding to x264, and archiving in MythVideo... let alone watching the shows! |
| [16:56:20] | bb_: | BULLIE: the only reason im asking... I bought a Hauppauge PVR 150 and it came with a blackremote..its not working correctly with my LIRC |
| [16:56:41] | iamlindoro: | bb_, you were in last night, right? Your mode2 works, but not irw, right? |
| [16:57:00] | bb_: | iamlindoro: hey there! yeah thanks for your help last ight |
| [16:57:34] | iamlindoro: | no problem... I just feel like your problem is inches away from being solved... you might want to throw it out there again, since tthere is more activity today... May not need to solve it so drastically |
| [16:57:47] | iamlindoro: | Where you are is *generally* an lircd.conf problem |
| [16:57:47] | djc__: | apparently there are some sort of rpm macro definitions I need to use in order to rebuild atrpms srpms, and apparently how to do this is documented somewhere on the linux.redhat.rpm.atrpms.devel list, but I cant seem to find a decent way to search that list to find the info.. anyone have any experience with this? |
| [16:57:55] | djc__: | dang im verbose |
| [16:58:10] | godzirra: | I wish I cuold find a freaking pvr 150 locally. |
| [16:58:12] | ** godzirra sighs. ** | |
| [16:58:14] | iamlindoro: | but as I recall you can't get irrecord or the stock lircd.conf to work... throw it out there for these guys, they can possibly help |
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| [16:58:24] | iamlindoro: | godzirra, where are you? |
| [16:58:42] | godzirra: | iamlindoro: Raleigh, NC |
| [16:58:42] | bb_: | iamlindora: okay thanks again! :) |
| [16:58:53] | iamlindoro: | godzirra, no Best Buys? they usually stock them |
| [16:58:55] | djc__: | (trying to rebuild atrpms lirc to support my mceusb receiver) |
| [16:59:19] | iamlindoro: | What's your zip? |
| [16:59:56] | godzirra: | iamlindoro: Its not even on bestbuy's website... |
| [17:00:00] | godzirra: | iamlindoro: 27604 |
| [17:00:12] | djc__: | east coast |
| [17:00:25] | djc__: | virginia, or maybe s cal. |
| [17:00:28] | djc__: | er |
| [17:00:37] | iamlindoro: | godzirra, I just noticed that... that said, I saw one at my local BB a few weeks ago... perhaps worth looking? |
| [17:00:38] | djc__: | n carolina |
| [17:00:54] | godzirra: | Yeah, I can go check em out. |
| [17:00:54] | djc__: | <-- works at usps |
| [17:01:10] | godzirra: | djc__: Genius... I just said I lived in NC :) hehe |
| [17:01:15] | djc__: | oh, duh.. |
| [17:01:23] | ** godzirra chuckles. ** | |
| [17:01:25] | djc__: | i didn even see that part.. just the zip ;) |
| [17:01:39] | godzirra: | Yeah.. the website only has the usb2 version for 143 bucks =p |
| [17:01:49] | djc__: | like I said, |
| [17:01:50] | djc__: | <-- works at usps |
| [17:02:01] | djc__: | zipcodes are king |
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| [17:02:15] | iamlindoro: | Yeah, that sucks... Well, shortly it should be possible to use the HVR-1800, which will be sweeeeet |
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| [17:02:35] | dserban: | djc__, have you had disgruntled sensitivity training? |
| [17:02:35] | godzirra: | Well, I'm looking for something inexpensive for now, so I can see if I like it, and more importantly if my wife likes it. |
| [17:02:45] | godzirra: | Since my wife is the primary tv watcher in the house. |
| [17:03:00] | godzirra: | I'm trying to get her away from tivo, and she's willing to move fianlly since they broke our tivo in the last software update. |
| [17:03:10] | djc__: | heh.. dont worry, im thouroughly gruntled |
| [17:03:13] | djc__: | repeatedly |
| [17:03:16] | djc__: | every day |
| [17:03:20] | dserban: | heheh |
| [17:03:30] | djc__: | whatever that means |
| [17:03:39] | dserban: | You don't have to sniff envelopes for anthrax or anything do you? |
| [17:03:49] | djc__: | how can disgruntled have a meanding if gruntled doesnt? |
| [17:04:10] | godzirra: | heh. |
| [17:04:13] | djc__: | nah, i just get to watch our sorting machines shred them occasionally |
| [17:04:14] | iamlindoro: | Our office mailman walks around with his shirt untucked and it irritates the heck out of me for some reason... As someone who used to wear a uniform full time it bothers me to see someone disrespect theirs... know that's silly, but hey, what can ya do :) |
| [17:04:21] | dserban: | oooh! |
| [17:04:25] | dserban: | shredddd!!!! |
| [17:04:35] | dserban: | my favourite part of office work. |
| [17:04:48] | djc__: | you'd be surprised at some of the crap people try to mail as/in a letter |
| [17:04:58] | dserban: | heh... any dog poo? |
| [17:05:09] | djc__: | pencils, rulers, jewelry.. |
| [17:05:16] | iamlindoro: | I would guess you get the occasional reproductive fluid |
| [17:05:20] | djc__: | if it doesnt flex easily, dont put it in an envelope |
| [17:05:21] | djc__: | nah |
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| [17:05:29] | iamlindoro: | why that's my FIRST guess is beyond me, but I bet people mail that stuff |
| [17:05:49] | iamlindoro: | And, in fact, have heard of someone doing so :) |
| [17:06:11] | djc__: | letters have to run through mechanized belts around wheels about 15" in diameter |
| [17:06:34] | djc__: | put a pen in, and it either breaks or pops out of the envelope |
| [17:06:42] | djc__: | lots of companies like to do that.. |
| [17:07:21] | dserban: | pens? |
| [17:07:25] | dserban: | wth... |
| [17:07:33] | dserban: | i just send pocket change :) |
| [17:07:35] | djc__: | yeah.. pens with company name on them |
| [17:07:41] | djc__: | also bad |
| [17:07:44] | godzirra: | heh. |
| [17:07:53] | dserban: | though I'm in canada... so I'm sure we're not as sophisticated.. |
| [17:08:01] | djc__: | anything other than paper folded flat, dont send it as a letter.. |
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| [17:08:06] | djc__: | put it in a box |
| [17:09:09] | dserban: | no kiddin'... though ages ago (in the 80's) my mom would send cash all the time... when I was in camp... before debit cards became the "in" thing... |
| [17:09:23] | djc__: | here's something that might surprise you.. its possible to mail a letter without putting the streed address, city, or state on it, and have it still get where its going |
| [17:09:31] | dserban: | :o |
| [17:09:35] | dserban: | wth? how? |
| [17:09:47] | dserban: | just the name? |
| [17:09:56] | djc__: | yup |
| [17:09:57] | djc__: | and a barcode |
| [17:10:24] | djc__: | note that the barcode only codes numbers.. |
| [17:11:01] | djc__: | gimme a street address, and a person or company name that receives mail there, and I can give you the barcode to use |
| [17:11:23] | djc__: | :P |
| [17:11:44] | djc__: | ZIP+4 has become ZIP+4+2 |
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| [17:12:34] | djc__: | which, in a barcode, on an automation-compatible letter, will get it in the carriers delivery tray in their route order.. as long as it has *something* on it that they recognize as belonging to the address when they get there, they will usually deliver it anyway, even sans the address |
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| [17:14:35] | hadees: | can you get hdtv over firewire from a cable box? I know the FCC required Cable Companies to offer boxes with firewire but does that include HDTV? |
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| [17:19:46] | godzirra: | Darnit.. there has -got- to be someone in town that has a freaking pvr 150.;p |
| [17:20:02] | GreyFoxx: | hadees: Yes, assuming your cableco allows it through |
| [17:20:06] | iamlindoro: | hadees, depends on your cable company and what you're able to work out with them, but yes, I believe several of the folks here get their cable in the US over a firewire port, including HD |
| [17:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | That's how I record HD, firewire from a STB |
| [17:21:07] | iamlindoro: | godzirra, depending on how desperate you are to get started, you could easily get one overnighted from NewEgg or Fry's |
| [17:22:10] | godzirra: | I am... i just want instant gratification. I'm leaving at noon tomorrow to go to inlaws 4 hours away =p |
| [17:22:48] | iamlindoro: | ah |
| [17:24:12] | godzirra: | Whats the difference between MCE and non MCE? |
| [17:24:28] | iamlindoro: | MCE has RCA audio in and a USB IR receiver/transmitter |
| [17:24:47] | iamlindoro: | non-mce has 1/8th inch audio in, on-board IR receiver and no IR blaster |
| [17:24:56] | iamlindoro: | MCE is the way to go in my opinion |
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| [17:25:15] | godzirra: | Hrm. |
| [17:25:28] | godzirra: | The package from newegg says that it contains the 274 card and driver disk. |
| [17:25:31] | godzirra: | nothing else...? |
| [17:25:37] | godzirra: | (at least the cheapest one?) |
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| [17:27:25] | iamlindoro: | It may be that the OEM doesn't have a remote... I just don't know... the remote/IR blaster are worth it for sure, though |
| [17:27:53] | iamlindoro: | because you will just find yourself buyingt them later if you don't now, and the ones in the MCE package are probably the simplest to configure of almost all remotes |
| [17:27:58] | godzirra: | ok. |
| [17:28:24] | godzirra: | So I can go with the $54 version at newegg and just buy a remote seperately later? |
| [17:28:54] | iamlindoro: | You can buy *some* remote later... but getting the mceusb2 one that generally comes with it requires buying it with the PVR-150, or second hand |
| [17:29:02] | godzirra: | hmm, ok. |
| [17:29:21] | ** godzirra is still looking on newegg then ** | |
| [17:29:27] | godzirra: | none of them show a remote or say they come with a remote in the title. |
| [17:29:44] | iamlindoro: | The $90 one does |
| [17:29:55] | iamlindoro: | Not in the title, but in the package contents |
| [17:30:25] | djc__: | ok, couldnt figure out atrpms.. tried rebuilding the offical fedora lirc srpm.. but compile blows up, and all I did was add --with-driver=mceusb2 to the spec |
| [17:30:27] | djc__: | sigh |
| [17:30:50] | godzirra: | ok, to get the remote I've got to get the $70 one |
| [17:30:54] | godzirra: | thats not gtoo bad. |
| [17:31:19] | iamlindoro: | That's the non-MCE, that's a diff. remote and receiver, and no blaster |
| [17:31:56] | godzirra: | Ahh crap. |
| [17:32:20] | iamlindoro: | That's what's referred to as the "Hauppauge remote," so you get a small gray remote and a little IR dongle straight out of the card, versus the mceusb2 one, which is a USB device that includes both the receiver and IR blaster, and is faaaaar easier to configure |
| [17:32:44] | djc__: | unless of course you are using the most up-to-date fedora |
| [17:33:09] | djc__: | i cant seem to get the mceusb2 module for the latest kernel |
| [17:33:21] | godzirra: | and the IR blaster is the thingie that you use to change the cable boxes channels? |
| [17:33:42] | djc__: | actually, my mceusb2 came with two plug-in 'emitters' that could be used to cntrol something else |
| [17:33:47] | iamlindoro: | Heh, well unless that... but in Ubuntu Gutsy it's pretty much plug-and-apt-get-and-play ;) |
| [17:33:52] | iamlindoro: | godzirra, correct |
| [17:33:55] | godzirra: | Sweet. |
| [17:34:03] | godzirra: | i need to update my server to gutsy... |
| [17:34:05] | iamlindoro: | djc, those are ir blasters :) |
| [17:34:06] | godzirra: | bu I dont want to reinstall. Bleh. |
| [17:34:18] | godzirra: | djc__: thats how tivo works too. the emitters control the cable box. |
| [17:34:19] | djc__: | i think 'ir blaster' is a specific brand name for a particular ir emitter |
| [17:35:07] | djc__: | since these plug into the ms mce box, i suspect they are something different in name, even though equivalent in function |
| [17:35:15] | iamlindoro: | I believe it is colloquially used to refer to all/most IR emitters, like, for example, those hobby ones made at irblaster.info |
| [17:36:13] | djc__: | ah ok.. i thought it was a brand name for a particular emitter |
| [17:36:24] | djc__: | perhaps they were just the first, and theve been band-aid-ized |
| [17:36:43] | iamlindoro: | ah well, just semantics, anyway, whatever you want to call it, you get one with the mceusb2 package :) |
| [17:36:59] | djc__: | anyway... i guess im gonna have to go compile straight from source with no rpm packaging |
| [17:37:01] | iamlindoro: | and it's a snap to set up in gutsy, if that's what you plan to use |
| [17:37:27] | BULLE: | iamlindoro: have there been any kernel updates to gutsy since release ? |
| [17:37:29] | iamlindoro: | apt-get lirc pretty much does everything, now, including putting the correct lircd.conf in for you |
| [17:38:00] | iamlindoro: | Bulle, not that I *recall*, but I was running it pre-release and I believe there was one like one day before release |
| [17:38:22] | BULLE: | iamlindoro: okies, the kernel that came at release crashes my boxes in like 3 minutes, so gutsy isnt an option for me, yet |
| [17:38:30] | BULLE: | iamlindoro: guess that will be sorted out with the next kernel release |
| [17:38:42] | iamlindoro: | But I think it was just a patched version of the same kernel, IIRC |
| [17:38:59] | iamlindoro: | yeah, I would hope... any sense of what's causing that? |
| [17:39:15] | BULLE: | iamlindoro: no not realy, the box just reboots, no kernel panic, nothign in logs, no nothing |
| [17:39:26] | BULLE: | just bzzzzzzzzzzzzp |
| [17:39:34] | BULLE: | and im looking at the bios boot sequence |
| [17:39:53] | iamlindoro: | Weird... On one of my systems I had to pass a boot argument to get it to stop crashing on me |
| [17:40:03] | iamlindoro: | Can't recall what, though... irqsomething |
| [17:40:26] | BULLE: | iamlindoro: ye, guess i could dig around a bit and see what i can come up with, now i restorted to install a kernel from fesity |
| [17:40:31] | BULLE: | feisty |
| [17:40:34] | iamlindoro: | For me the symptom was it would just grind to a halt, though |
| [17:40:34] | djc__: | ok heres a dumb question,, is the mceusb2 kernel module compile from the lirc source itself? |
| [17:40:35] | BULLE: | and it works like a charm |
| [17:40:47] | BULLE: | djc__: think so yes |
| [17:40:49] | djc__: | it isnt something I have to rebuild in the kernel tree i hope |
| [17:41:00] | BULLE: | djc__: dunno, why not just use precompiled packages ? |
| [17:41:00] | iamlindoro: | djc, yeah, should be from lirc source |
| [17:41:17] | djc__: | ok, i get the same error compiling from source tarball as I did from the rh srpm enabling mceusb |
| [17:41:18] | djc__: | sigh |
| [17:41:33] | BULLE: | djc__: what linux distro ? |
| [17:41:37] | djc__: | fedora 7 |
| [17:41:46] | djc__: | lemme check something tho |
| [17:41:50] | BULLE: | im pretty darn sure f7 comes with lirc |
| [17:42:40] | djc__: | yeah, but the one it comes with doesnt have mceusb2 included |
| [17:42:51] | BULLE: | huh ? |
| [17:42:52] | djc__: | i tried using fedoras srpm for lirc and adding it, compile error |
| [17:42:53] | djc__: | http://pastebin.com/m47a19f91 |
| [17:43:01] | BULLE: | the fc6 lirc rpms has it |
| [17:43:12] | BULLE: | djc__: tried to just get lirc from say atrpms or livna ? |
| [17:43:31] | djc__: | yeah, the atrpms one worked with the *previous* kernel.. but they dont have modules for the updated one |
| [17:43:47] | BULLE: | ah, the kmdl packages havent been built yet |
| [17:43:50] | BULLE: | tey will come, soon |
| [17:44:11] | djc__: | and i tried recompiling from the atrpms srpm, but apparently theres some rpm macro defs that i cant find how to get/set |
| [17:45:36] | BULLE: | djc__: either just go back to the older knernel for now, and wait for kmdl packages to show up |
| [17:45:47] | iamlindoro: | djc, out of curiosity, what caused you to upgrade to such a bleeding edge kernel? |
| [17:46:04] | djc__: | standard fedora updates |
| [17:46:05] | BULLE: | iamlindoro: its no bleeding edge kernel, i guess its just the newest f7 kernel released |
| [17:46:11] | iamlindoro: | ah, ok |
| [17:46:17] | BULLE: | came one a few days ago |
| [17:46:19] | djc__: | yeah |
| [17:46:30] | djc__: | looks like oct 19th |
| [17:46:44] | iamlindoro: | I am neurotic about breaking my myth box, so I generally just close all the ports but relelvant myth ports and ssh, and turn off updates |
| [17:47:01] | djc__: | well, this isnt a production box, yet |
| [17:47:17] | djc__: | ive been building and rebuilding trying to fix other things |
| [17:47:29] | iamlindoro: | Guess the easiest thing to do in the short term is just roll back the kernel |
| [17:47:30] | djc__: | so I can get to where I can put one in the LR |
| [17:48:29] | djc__: | id like to use the release version of myth too, but that isnt an option either, as my patch for multiple udp multicast is against the recorder in the trunk |
| [17:48:31] | iamlindoro: | The greatest compliment I have for myth, if this makes any sense, is that I was able to build and configure a system in a sexy HTPC case, do all the setup, and drop it in the living room at my parents house, and haven't had to troubleshoot once |
| [17:48:46] | djc__: | http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/3873 |
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| [17:49:20] | djc__: | if it wasnt for the tuning over ip, I probably could have a release/stock box running already |
| [17:49:53] | djc__: | but a couple months ago the folks dropped the local monopoly-cable and went with a provider that uses fiber and ip tv |
| [17:50:01] | djc__: | which, is pretty cool in and of itself |
| [17:50:32] | djc__: | becuase with the fix i managed to find, i dont need to buy multiple phsyical tuners (or any) to be able to record/watch more than one show at once |
| [17:51:06] | BULLE: | djc__: thats just because your provider is nice |
| [17:51:25] | iamlindoro: | I wrote my folks an "easy button." I basically thought of every single case I could think of with lirc crashing, backend crashing, apache, etc., and scripted solutions to all of them, and linked it to the remote's power button... so I basically just told them, "If something stops working, press this button." It seems to be working so far. :) |
| [17:51:27] | BULLE: | djc__: nothing stops them from setting a limit of the number of streams you can request at the same time |
| [17:51:52] | djc__: | true.. but at least theres no psyical 'number of hardware items' limit |
| [17:52:01] | BULLE: | ye |
| [17:52:11] | djc__: | i dont need to use their box, or any capture card |
| [17:52:18] | djc__: | plug the ether right into the pc |
| [17:52:32] | BULLE: | i just use a dvb card to grab teh cable stuff |
| [17:52:45] | djc__: | how is dvb delivered, anyway? |
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| [17:52:51] | djc__: | coax, ether, or something else? |
| [17:53:02] | BULLE: | djc__: there are multiple standards |
| [17:53:03] | Dibblah: | Little envelopes, every month. |
| [17:53:07] | djc__: | heh |
| [17:53:21] | BULLE: | djc__: dvb-c for cable, dvb-t for over the air, dvb-s for satellite and dvb-ip for ip |
| [17:53:24] | AL13N: | when trying to play, what user needs access to the files? backend user? frontend user? nobody? |
| [17:53:27] | AL13N: | lol Dibblah |
| [17:53:32] | BULLE: | AL13N: frontend user |
| [17:53:43] | Dibblah: | AL13N: Depends. |
| [17:53:47] | djc__: | assuming front and back on same box |
| [17:53:49] | AL13N: | playing video |
| [17:53:50] | BULLE: | AL13N: if we are still talking about the mythvideo plugin |
| [17:53:58] | AL13N: | yes |
| [17:54:06] | AL13N: | cause it's started as root |
| [17:54:09] | djc__: | make them world-readable then who cares |
| [17:54:11] | Dibblah: | TV is different. |
| [17:54:11] | AL13N: | so, it should be covered |
| [17:54:52] | djc__: | anyway.. im bollixed as to why the fedora srpm doesnt like mceusb2 |
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| [17:55:12] | BULLE: | djc__: dunno realy to be honest |
| [17:55:36] | BULLE: | djc__: fedora is a us based project, so they have to comply with all the us laws, perhaps ms claims DMCA violations or something else |
| [17:55:38] | AL13N: | can i get verbose logging from there? |
| [17:55:44] | BULLE: | djc__: but im just guessing |
| [17:55:57] | djc__: | yeah but its not 'cant support', its a compile error |
| [17:56:00] | BULLE: | djc__: either enable repo that isnt based in the states, or use another distro |
| [17:56:15] | BULLE: | djc__: what compile error ? |
| [17:56:35] | Dibblah: | djc__: Pastebin it :) |
| [17:56:40] | djc__: | <djc__> http://pastebin.com/m47a19f91 |
| [17:56:44] | BULLE: | thanks |
| [17:56:48] | djc__: | i did, previously :) |
| [17:57:23] | djc__: | actually thats from my doing it from tarball.. _but_ its the same error I get from rpmbuild |
| [17:57:23] | Dibblah: | And the rest of it? |
| [17:57:47] | djc__: | uhmm.. i thought that was everythin.. |
| [17:57:50] | djc__: | lemme go grab it again |
| [17:58:58] | djc__: | http://pastebin.com/m7aeacb04 |
| [17:59:22] | AL13N: | i found that 'startx /usr/bin/mythfrontend --verbose 9 mythvideo' starts it, but the verbosity parameter is wrong: |
| [17:59:25] | djc__: | thats not the entire output from rpmbuild, but its more than before |
| [17:59:30] | tcpsyn: | I got vlc to fix my recordings so they work on the ps3.. |
| [17:59:32] | tcpsyn: | but.. |
| [17:59:33] | AL13N: | Unknown argument for -v/--verbose: 9 |
| [17:59:41] | tcpsyn: | the myth upnp server won't play them. |
| [17:59:41] | AL13N: | what do i need to supply there? |
| [17:59:44] | tcpsyn: | I have to use media tomb |
| [17:59:46] | tcpsyn: | why would that be? |
| [18:00:29] | Dibblah: | djc__: Looks like it may be your kernel version? |
| [18:00:47] | djc__: | yeah but the same rpm builds find if I do it without mceusb |
| [18:00:53] | djc__: | er s/find/fine |
| [18:00:54] | Dibblah: | ... Try pulling SVN of LIRC. |
| [18:01:15] | djc__: | lemme dblcheck without mceusb in the configure |
| [18:01:54] | djc__: | is it possible something just to di with mceusb2 breaks with the kern ver? |
| [18:02:13] | djc__: | yeah, its going fine now wo mceusb2 |
| [18:02:34] | djc__: | and finished.. |
| [18:03:48] | djc__: | ok.. checking out the trunk of lirc |
| [18:04:37] | djc__: | dang im hungry |
| [18:05:28] | AL13N: | anyone any idea what to give as parameter with --verbose ? |
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| [18:06:07] | Dibblah: | AL13N: What are you actually trying to do? |
| [18:06:22] | Dibblah: | -v all |
| [18:06:28] | Dibblah: | will give you everything. |
| [18:08:17] | tcpsyn: | vlc 1861_20071031205800.mpg :sout=file/ps://outfile.mpg vlc:quit |
| [18:08:23] | tcpsyn: | I want to take that line. |
| [18:08:32] | tcpsyn: | Except, keep the outfile.mpg the same line |
| [18:08:42] | tcpsyn: | and use it on every HD recording by default. |
| [18:08:47] | tcpsyn: | Should I use a user job for that? |
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| [18:10:47] | tcpsyn: | is there a variable I can pass to the transcoder command in mythtv-setup? |
| [18:10:53] | tcpsyn: | could I do like vlc 1861_20071031205800.mpg :sout=file/ps://outfile.mpg vlc:quit |
| [18:10:57] | tcpsyn: | er. sorry |
| [18:11:13] | tcpsyn: | could I do like vlc $RECORDING :sout=file/ps://$RECORDING vlc:quit |
| [18:11:20] | tcpsyn: | instead of mythtranscode? |
| [18:11:41] | iamlindoro: | just set up a user job and script what you want |
| [18:12:03] | iamlindoro: | write a script like above as: |
| [18:12:09] | iamlindoro: | #!/bin/sh |
| [18:12:20] | iamlindoro: | RECORDING=$1 |
| [18:12:36] | iamlindoro: | RECORDINGDIR=$2 |
| [18:12:46] | iamlindoro: | then your line above, except as: |
| [18:12:51] | tcpsyn: | yes, this is what I need. |
| [18:13:12] | AL13N: | Dibblah: thanks |
| [18:13:14] | tcpsyn: | except.. |
| [18:13:18] | iamlindoro: | vlc $RECORDINGDIR/$RECORDING :sout=file/ps://$RECORDINGDIR/$RECORDING vlc:quit |
| [18:13:25] | tcpsyn: | I don't think vlc will do it in place. |
| [18:13:42] | tcpsyn: | I'll have to make a tmp file, delete the original, and rename the temp file I think. |
| [18:13:45] | AL13N: | Dibblah: i'm trying to play an mpg movie in the /data/media/video directory |
| [18:13:49] | AL13N: | with mythtv |
| [18:14:02] | Dibblah: | mythtv <file> |
| [18:14:07] | AL13N: | so, that dir is set at VideoStartupDir |
| [18:14:17] | Dibblah: | It's not a full interface, but it'll probably do it. |
| [18:14:21] | AL13N: | with mythvideo plugin |
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| [18:14:37] | AL13N: | Dibblah: i see what you mean, but i'm trying to get to the full interface |
| [18:14:49] | AL13N: | the problem is, it always says no file found |
| [18:15:00] | AL13N: | while there are subdirs in it and other files, etc... |
| [18:15:38] | AL13N: | i've started mythvideo as above, and there are 4 options: the 3rd one is the gallery and the forth is a configuration thing or something |
| [18:15:56] | AL13N: | and if i select that, then mythfrontend starts to eat all CPU and get memory like crazy |
| [18:16:07] | AL13N: | like 1.4GB |
| [18:21:22] | iamlindoro: | anyway, tcpsyn, once you get your command line worked out, you'd set it up as a user job in myth as something like |
| [18:21:41] | iamlindoro: | myscript "%FILE%" "%DIR%" |
| [18:21:57] | iamlindoro: | and then tick the checkbox to allow User job 1 to run, or whatever |
| [18:23:08] | djc__: | uhm.. woah |
| [18:23:21] | djc__: | so I got the lirc trunk, ran autogen and configure, so far so good. |
| [18:23:33] | djc__: | i try 'make', and it immediately dies |
| [18:24:00] | djc__: | http://pastebin.com/m55f029d2 |
| [18:24:23] | djc__: | doesnt give an explanatory text at all.. just 'error 1' |
| [18:26:58] | Hoxzer: | Do mythtv recordings contain anything unique in them that I can try to grep when trying to do undelete ? |
| [18:27:16] | djc__: | UNdelete?! |
| [18:27:30] | djc__: | god luck |
| [18:28:00] | Hoxzer: | :( |
| [18:28:35] | iamlindoro: | Ah, undelete... |
| [18:28:41] | Hoxzer: | Just wanna one recording but because of ext3 filesystem it is ... almost impossible :p |
| [18:28:48] | djc__: | unless you lost something wort a *lot* of damn money, idont think its worth the time |
| [18:29:01] | ** iamlindoro fires up his copy of Myth under DOS 6.10, and enables EMM386 ** | |
| [18:29:08] | Hoxzer: | djc__: Naah, just my relatives tv-interview |
| [18:29:08] | djc__: | lol |
| [18:29:20] | djc__: | yeah, call the tv station.. |
| [18:29:28] | Hoxzer: | She got really angry when she heard that it was deleted :< |
| [18:29:47] | gizmobay: | djc_, this may solve your problem http://venky.ws/forums/viewtopic.php?t=164&am . . . 6f331d5d10c8 |
| [18:29:50] | iamlindoro: | *she* at least should have no problem getting a nice copy from the Tv station |
| [18:29:53] | djc__: | you'll spend less time working and earning the money to pay them whatever they want for a copy than you would grepping your hard drive unsuccesfully |
| [18:30:07] | djc__: | gizmobay, thank you, looking |
| [18:30:15] | iamlindoro: | since she was courteous enough to appear for them, I would think they would provide her a copy |
| [18:30:16] | Hoxzer: | djc__: :D ... it actually pretty funny my local tv station has this internet archive for TV-programs and they contain like 5 months of videos... |
| [18:30:27] | Hoxzer: | djc__: well, it was deleted one month before from there too :P |
| [18:30:48] | djc__: | they dont have a copy on tape? |
| [18:31:07] | Hoxzer: | ... eh I think THEY do but |
| [18:31:12] | djc__: | or dvd.. or something |
| [18:31:26] | Hoxzer: | the TV-station has a archive of its videos in the internet |
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| [18:31:37] | Hoxzer: | and they have shows there for 5months backwards |
| [18:31:44] | Hoxzer: | Couldn't find it there :\ |
| [18:32:00] | iamlindoro: | Will just have to contact them, probably |
| [18:32:02] | djc__: | trust me, no matter how much red tape you have to go through with them to get a copy from them, it will still be less time than you'd spend trying to undelete it from your hd |
| [18:32:06] | iamlindoro: | besides, how long ago did you delete it? |
| [18:32:38] | djc__: | gizmobay, uhm.. that doesnt seem to have anything to do with my error.. you sure thats what you mean to link to? |
| [18:35:10] | Hoxzer: | I think I found the string to use :P |
| [18:35:26] | Hoxzer: | Yes... they all seem to match to TV |
| [18:36:15] | djc__: | where exactly are you grepping, exactly? |
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| [18:36:59] | djc__: | you realize that the data for the file is likely to be all over the drive? and with the directory info gone, good luck finding them unless you either are one of the ext3 developers or sleep with one of them |
| [18:37:05] | Hoxzer: | djc__: I tested a number of Mythtv recordings with grep 'string' recording |
| [18:37:22] | djc__: | yeah but where are you gonna grep to find deleted ones? |
| [18:37:40] | djc__: | unless its just the sql db entry thats deleted and not the actual diskfile |
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| [18:37:42] | Hoxzer: | grep --binary-files=text -300 "TV" image_of_hdd > somefile.mpg |
| [18:37:46] | Hoxzer: | basically I'm using that |
| [18:37:52] | djc__: | uhm... |
| [18:38:07] | djc__: | yeah |
| [18:38:16] | djc__: | good luck with that |
| [18:38:30] | Hoxzer: | :P |
| [18:38:52] | djc__: | if that gets you the deleted file intact i'll mail you a sixpack |
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| [18:45:10] | AL13N: | the verbose logs only gives sql commands extra |
| [18:45:28] | iamlindoro: | al13n, what do you want to get out of the verbosity? |
| [18:45:46] | iamlindoro: | -v all is everything there is to see, you can't get more than that |
| [18:45:46] | AL13N: | some indication as to what path it was looking for |
| [18:45:51] | AL13N: | indeed |
| [18:45:59] | AL13N: | i'm going to run with strace now |
| [18:46:11] | AL13N: | and see if what directory really is used |
| [18:46:12] | AL13N: | IF |
| [18:46:20] | AL13N: | any is really used |
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| [18:49:51] | no_0ne: | i'm using a seperate frontend and backend – i'm getting about 70% io wait on backend – can someone please help me determine the cause? |
| [18:56:21] | tcpsyn: | nice. |
| [18:56:22] | tcpsyn: | it works. |
| [18:57:22] | djc__: | ok, i found the 'list of macros'.. now I just gotta figure out where to put them |
| [18:58:04] | AL13N: | strace shows nothing and there's no video path in there |
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| [18:59:18] | AL13N: | i'm concluding that the backend must do that |
| [18:59:29] | adante: | anybody here using transcode, what sort of speeds do you get |
| [19:03:27] | djc__: | omg |
| [19:03:59] | djc__: | i finally manage to get rpmbuild to be happy with the atrpms srpm.. and it proceeded.. until I get the SAME compile error i got from trying with fedoras, or with the lirc tarball |
| [19:04:17] | djc__: | /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/lirc-0.8.3/drivers/lirc_dev/lirc_dev.c: In function 'lirc_dev_init': |
| [19:04:17] | djc__: | /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/lirc-0.8.3/drivers/lirc_dev/lirc_dev.c:883: error: void value not ignored as it ought to be |
| [19:04:20] | djc__: | grrr |
| [19:04:49] | djc__: | the lirc trunk was just a mess.. all I want to do is get ANY version of lirc to work with mcrusb2 |
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| [19:16:20] | Kernel: | hello all im getting these errors when trying to watch tv http://pastebin.ca/757923 .....in mythtv all i see is a red and green screen(not snow...and it the colors dont move) |
| [19:16:29] | Kernel: | if i do mplayer /dev/video0 it plays fine. |
| [19:20:40] | AL13N: | Dibblah, iamlindoro, BULLE: MSqlQuery: SELECT data FROM settings WHERE value = 'VideoStartupDir' AND hostname = 'queen.hive.selfip.org' ; this is the last verbose thing, whereafter nothing happens |
| [19:20:49] | AL13N: | no strace seeing a read to that directory |
| [19:22:23] | AL13N: | i've been testing out the database values: from what was searched, all defaults were nonexistant |
| [19:22:31] | AL13N: | most were set to 1, unless VideoGalleryNoDB |
| [19:22:35] | AL13N: | that was 0 |
| [19:22:44] | AL13N: | should that be 1 ? |
| [19:22:57] | AL13N: | i don't get it |
| [19:23:01] | AL13N: | why doesn't it work? |
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| [19:30:50] | asfui: | hi, i've looked for some info on signal stregth for analogic TV on mailing list |
| [19:31:24] | AL13N: | can anyone run mythvideo plugin for me with --verbose all and go the the directory in question? |
| [19:31:31] | AL13N: | and pastebin the output? |
| [19:31:40] | AL13N: | so i can compare between working and not-working? |
| [19:31:50] | asfui: | when i scan for channel, i got only 6 channel instead of something like 20 |
| [19:31:56] | no_0ne: | i'm using a seperate frontend and backend – i'm getting about 70% io wait on backend – can someone please help me determine the cause? |
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| [19:33:05] | asfui: | i got only the channel with a clear signal, like there is a threshold for the analogic signal like for atsc |
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| [19:33:32] | kslater: | no_One: could it be that your drive in the backend is swamped? |
| [19:33:55] | asfui: | in effect i've tried to move up the ATSC threshold from 50% to 80, and then the scan return no result at all |
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| [19:34:17] | iamlindoro: | al13n, I am ssh'd to my mythbox at my house, let me try to do that for you |
| [19:34:25] | AL13N: | thanks |
| [19:34:37] | asfui: | i'm a bit confused, that parameter should't affect analogic transmison, is it right? |
| [19:34:58] | AL13N: | since i don't have a cable connector yet, all i can do with myth is playing my videos |
| [19:35:06] | AL13N: | but that seems unsuccessfull |
| [19:35:54] | djc__: | ok, ive got lirc running, i can see remote events with irw |
| [19:36:00] | djc__: | ive got lircrc in place |
| [19:36:15] | djc__: | but nothing happens when i press remote buttons |
| [19:36:21] | djc__: | other than the led on the receiving blinking |
| [19:37:01] | djc__: | how do I tell fe to read the remote, or tell wether its trying to |
| [19:37:42] | AL13N: | djc__: i had to run 'irxevent -d ~/.mythtv/lircrc' |
| [19:37:51] | djc__: | nothing in the startup messages says anything about lirc.. |
| [19:37:56] | djc__: | uhm |
| [19:37:57] | djc__: | er |
| [19:37:58] | djc__: | hrm |
| [19:38:24] | djc__: | i dont recall having to do that earlier. |
| [19:38:40] | djc__: | doesnt myth look at lirc directly? |
| [19:38:50] | iamlindoro: | al13n, stand by, having to juggle between hosts |
| [19:39:02] | AL13N: | no, irxevent actually translates the buttons to keypresses |
| [19:39:11] | AL13N: | as you can see in the lircrc file |
| [19:39:41] | AL13N: | djc__: you do what you want, but until i did that, my lirc buttons didn't work |
| [19:39:48] | AL13N: | i just got them working today |
| [19:40:57] | AL13N: | iamlindoro: thanks alot man |
| [19:41:08] | iamlindoro: | al13n, I've got about 50k of this, how far to you want me to pastebin? |
| [19:41:11] | AL13N: | iamlindoro: i'm having to do that as well |
| [19:41:19] | AL13N: | you had results? |
| [19:41:28] | AL13N: | hmm, you can't see that of course |
| [19:41:46] | djc__: | didnt help |
| [19:41:49] | AL13N: | you can put it, i don't have that much thing |
| [19:42:03] | iamlindoro: | ok, I'll post a few hundred lines and if you need more, you can let me knwo |
| [19:42:16] | AL13N: | k |
| [19:42:17] | AL13N: | thanks |
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| [19:43:34] | iamlindoro: | http://www.pastebin.ca/757956 |
| [19:43:38] | AL13N: | my last line is: 2007-11–01 20:09:54.310 MSqlQuery: SELECT data FROM settings WHERE value = 'VideoStartupDir' AND hostname = 'queen.hive.selfip.org' ; |
| [19:45:51] | iamlindoro: | Well, hopefully this gives you an assist |
| [19:47:18] | AL13N: | iamlindoro: is this mythvideo plugin as well? |
| [19:47:38] | iamlindoro: | Yes, mythvideo is installed... this is SVN, so some version variation may exist |
| [19:47:53] | AL13N: | iamlindoro: did you use mythvideo while logging it? |
| [19:48:05] | iamlindoro: | Nope, can't from here, just started up and pastebinned |
| [19:48:12] | AL13N: | ah, you don't have VNC |
| [19:48:15] | AL13N: | k |
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| [19:48:18] | iamlindoro: | not open to the outside world I don't |
| [19:48:20] | AL13N: | sorry then |
| [19:48:25] | AL13N: | lol |
| [19:48:30] | AL13N: | iamlindoro: i use VPN tunnels |
| [19:48:43] | iamlindoro: | I would too, just swapped routers and new one doesn't support |
| [19:48:51] | iamlindoro: | ah well |
| [19:48:56] | AL13N: | i just use OpenVPN |
| [19:49:10] | AL13N: | thanks for the help, but i fear that it won't really help me |
| [19:49:19] | kusznir: | hi all: I'm having trouble dealing with overscan on my plasma here, but the web postings I've found so far don't seem to be helpful. Specifically, the picture does show up fine, its just cut off some on all 4 sides. When I follow the instructions to generate a modeline, it turns out to be the same thing. |
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| [19:49:28] | laga: | re |
| [19:49:52] | AL13N: | iamlindoro: would it be possible if you were at home later on, that you fire up mythvideo and got to the gallery and just capture the logs of that piece? |
| [19:49:54] | iamlindoro: | kusznir, you can just use the myth options to resize the UI down to your needed size |
| [19:50:08] | AL13N: | iamlindoro: VideoStartupDir should be in the logs |
| [19:50:10] | iamlindoro: | al13n, of course, that's no problem.. .I'll be a few hours yet though |
| [19:50:15] | AL13N: | np |
| [19:50:23] | AL13N: | i'm trying for a few days already |
| [19:50:33] | AL13N: | can you mail it to me? |
| [19:50:40] | iamlindoro: | sure |
| [19:50:42] | kusznir: | I think what I need to do is have a virtual resolution smaler than the actual one, but according to xorg.conf's man page, that's not valid (xorg will switch "physical resolutions" to ensure virtual >= physical) |
| [19:51:11] | kusznir: | I have problems when I run other apps (like xine). I don't have myth set to auto-start, either, so I need to use the menu bars, which are cut off. |
| [19:51:30] | kusznir: | (the machine is used for some starcraft gaming as well...not strictly myth related, I know.... |
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| [19:53:10] | iamlindoro: | kusznir, what video card and output? |
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| [19:54:04] | kusznir: | iamlindoro: nvidia GeForce 6500, 1920x1080 DVI native. Samsung Plasma, already did everything I can to get overscan turned off; no luck. |
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| [19:54:51] | iamlindoro: | Hmm... well, fixing in mythtv is fairly easy, but regarding other stuff, I'm afraid I can't help |
| [19:55:23] | kusznir: | I borrowed an ATI card, and found that running at 1776x1000 eliminated the overscan, but it appears it actually ran at the "native" resolution and just ran a "virtual" resolution smaller. When I try that with nvidia, it appears that its changing its signal output, and the plasma jsut says "searching for signal". |
| [19:56:46] | djc__: | im abut ready to scream. it doesnt help that I have to keep switching my keyboard between my workstation and the mythbox |
| [19:56:53] | iamlindoro: | kusznir, my personal experience with Samsungs has been that they are EXTREMELY stubborn about overscan |
| [19:57:10] | iamlindoro: | My folks have one and setting myth up on their box properly was a chore |
| [19:57:47] | iamlindoro: | But I just left overscan alone since it's myth-only |
| [19:58:01] | kusznir: | Yea...If I had bought it myself, it would have been returned well before now...seeing as how I inherited it, I'm stuck with it... |
| [19:58:07] | iamlindoro: | which model? |
| [19:58:36] | kusznir: | LN-S4095D |
| [19:58:51] | iamlindoro: | have you experimented with nvidia-config at all? |
| [19:59:15] | kusznir: | Yea. I didn't find any useful settings...it seems if I change anything, it stops working. |
| [19:59:32] | kusznir: | From what I can tell, the samsung requires exactly one signal format....no changes whatsoever. |
| [19:59:56] | iamlindoro: | I ran in to similar issues... hmmm, let's see |
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| [20:00:45] | iamlindoro: | wonder whether it would be worth playing with ignoreEDID |
| [20:00:48] | kusznir: | It semms like there should be a way to tell the X server to generate a signal for 1920x1080, but only draw on 1776x1000, centered. |
| [20:00:53] | kusznir: | I tried, it had no effect. |
| [20:01:15] | kusznir: | Tried setting ExactModeTimingsDVI |
| [20:01:28] | kusznir: | setting TVStandard HD1080p |
| [20:06:39] | djc__: | itd be nice if irxevent had some sort of debugging/logging capacity |
| [20:07:03] | djc__: | ive no idea wether its doing anything or not.. fe still dosnt respond to anything |
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| [20:07:47] | iamlindoro: | kusznir, the drastic approach I would take to solving it if nothing works is... |
| [20:08:17] | iamlindoro: | Get a small drive, install windows, and run powerstrip to generate modelines that will work properly... it'll let you cycle through all the possibilities until you find the right one |
| [20:08:28] | iamlindoro: | i hate that solution, but if all else fails... |
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| [20:09:37] | kusznir: | Is it possible to take a modeline from one resolution and "assign" it to another? |
| [20:09:49] | kusznir: | (to accompish the "smaller virtual resolution"? |
| [20:09:49] | iamlindoro: | Not sure I follow |
| [20:10:05] | iamlindoro: | Hmm, not that I am aware, but that's ignorance speaking and not a definitive answer :) |
| [20:10:16] | iamlindoro: | I don't believe so, though |
| [20:10:20] | kusznir: | So if I have a modeline that's for "1920x1080", and I say, here's a modeline for "1776x1000", and give it the exact same modeline, would that work? |
| [20:10:40] | kusznir: | Ok. I'll see what I can dig up. |
| [20:10:55] | iamlindoro: | Well, those are really just labels (1920x1080), etc in xorg.conf... you could call that resolution "bob" and it would work |
| [20:11:05] | iamlindoro: | so no, because the modeline is really what determines the res |
| [20:11:26] | iamlindoro: | Like I said, if it gets desperate, powerstrip will work well |
| [20:11:57] | kusznir: | Times like this I wish I had a Windows LiveCD :) |
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| [20:17:16] | djc__: | ok, i think i know what the prob is.. i compiled myth before lirc libraries were installed. so I think it got left out of myth.. duh |
| [20:18:41] | clever: | yeah the lirc dev files need to exist when myth is built |
| [20:19:01] | kormoc: | the lirc dev files do not need to exist |
| [20:19:08] | kormoc: | just the lirc headers |
| [20:19:20] | djc__: | eg "lirc-devel" :) |
| [20:19:20] | clever: | id call that the -dev part of lirc |
| [20:19:25] | djc__: | which I just installed |
| [20:19:30] | djc__: | and now I will recompile and try again |
| [20:19:47] | kormoc: | dev is the directory which holds the device files :P |
| [20:20:06] | djc__: | semantics |
| [20:20:07] | clever: | by dev i meant the devel part not the /dev/ part:P |
| [20:20:41] | kormoc: | not every distro has -devel / -dev packages, so it's an important distinction |
| [20:20:49] | clever: | and how to i mark a show to transcode x hours/days after it recorded |
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| [20:23:04] | aep: | hai |
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| [20:23:32] | aep: | i wonder how do you actualy set boolean settings in some settings screens |
| [20:23:43] | aep: | space and enter both go to the next screen |
| [20:23:45] | clever: | left/right arrows i think |
| [20:23:49] | aep: | nope |
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| [20:25:17] | aep: | oh wait. yes thats it. i just couldnt see the black arrow on dark blue background |
| [20:25:21] | aep: | thanks clever |
| [20:25:25] | clever: | lol |
| [20:25:29] | clever: | :) |
| [20:25:40] | aep: | so second question: any way to actually select music by album in the playlist? |
| [20:25:48] | aep: | it's kindof useless for mixed artist cds |
| [20:29:00] | iamlindoro: | aep, I don't believe so |
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| [20:29:29] | djc__: | hrm |
| [20:29:32] | djc__: | ok, it still doesnt work |
| [20:30:25] | djc__: | make with a make clean first... |
| [20:30:46] | garth: | are there any setup changes i need to make to MythTV for it to utilize a dual-core CPU optimally? |
| [20:31:01] | iamlindoro: | garth, I don't think much or any of myth is multithreaded |
| [20:31:14] | iamlindoro: | so I think pretty much compiling with enable-proc-opt will give you everything it can |
| [20:31:17] | djc__: | not even when recording from multiple capture cards? |
| [20:31:46] | aep: | owk thanks anyway |
| [20:31:55] | garth: | i thought i could designate commflag jobs to the 2nd cpu and such |
| [20:32:15] | iamlindoro: | os handles that, will spawn processes and manage across cores |
| [20:32:24] | garth: | ah i see |
| [20:32:24] | djc__: | ah |
| [20:32:30] | garth: | thats good enough for me! :) |
| [20:32:53] | djc__: | you know, apple needs to add two things to the 'iPod touch' to make it a killer device: |
| [20:33:12] | garth: | do you know if it will do the same for recording jobs? |
| [20:33:14] | iamlindoro: | on a related note, I am transcoding a blu-ray disc right now and mencoder is using 340% CPU on my Quad... that's good stuff! |
| [20:33:19] | djc__: | 1. a mic, preferrable located similarly to that on the iPphone |
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| [20:33:33] | djc__: | 2. a fully configurable SIP VoIP client |
| [20:34:07] | iamlindoro: | garth, what cards are you using? |
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| [20:34:28] | garth: | I have 1 pvr-150 and an HDHomerun (which has 2 tuners) |
| [20:34:38] | iamlindoro: | If they're hardware encoders, you're really not going to be using processor anyway, all the encoding is done on-board... bottleneck is writing to disk, and not even then |
| [20:34:46] | iamlindoro: | garth, perfect, you will never have a CPU issue |
| [20:34:54] | garth: | yeah i guess that makes sense |
| [20:35:17] | iamlindoro: | both devices are just dumping to disk |
| [20:35:27] | iamlindoro: | now, if they were framegrabbers, it's a different story, but not with those |
| [20:35:33] | garth: | cool |
| [20:35:44] | iamlindoro: | and I serrrrrrrriously doubt ivtv is being multithreaded to allow for ancient framegrabbers :) |
| [20:36:03] | garth: | i guess it wasn't so essential to upgrade to this X2 4200 but oh well, i got a deal on it |
| [20:36:26] | iamlindoro: | well, you're recording something from that HDHomerun, you'll need a processor to *play* it |
| [20:36:32] | iamlindoro: | And there the processor will help |
| [20:36:38] | garth: | i see |
| [20:37:14] | iamlindoro: | recording's easy, though |
| [20:37:52] | garth: | i suppose the dual core will help if/when I set this machine up as a dedicated back end, and build a few front end's around my house |
| [20:38:17] | iamlindoro: | garth, I personally get a lot of benefit from my quad because I run a ton of transcoding jobs |
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| [20:38:52] | garth: | yeah i havent done much transcoding, but its something im interested in |
| [20:38:54] | iamlindoro: | I archive all my tv watching in MythVideo so I have full seasons of things, so I lossless transcode the commercials and transcode to 720p x.264, then dump to MythVideo |
| [20:39:05] | iamlindoro: | er the commercials out |
| [20:39:12] | garth: | right i read you |
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| [20:39:35] | iamlindoro: | saves risking any legal issues by finding torrents |
| [20:39:53] | iamlindoro: | plus, you control the quality so you can keep it as nice as you have disk space for |
| [20:40:08] | garth: | what tuners do you use? |
| [20:40:24] | iamlindoro: | 2 x PVR-150, a Hd-5000 and a KWorld 115 |
| [20:40:43] | garth: | what's your HD source? |
| [20:40:49] | iamlindoro: | QAM Cable |
| [20:40:57] | garth: | same here |
| [20:41:18] | garth: | out of curiosity, how many unencrypted channels do you get? |
| [20:41:34] | djc__: | finally |
| [20:41:50] | iamlindoro: | Well I get a ton but most of them are crap/cable access so I just cut them down to network TV, and get the extended cable with the PVR-150s |
| [20:42:07] | garth: | yeah thats my story too |
| [20:42:38] | garth: | i had a helluva time getting my SchedulesDirect data properly correlated with my QAM channels though |
| [20:42:57] | garth: | I had to manually enter XMLTVIDs into the channels table |
| [20:43:04] | iamlindoro: | Mine worked pretty well, but I used to have issues and just got the Station IDs and put them in manually in mythweb |
| [20:44:02] | garth: | I think I want 1 more PVR-150 |
| [20:44:26] | garth: | that way i have redundancy on both standard and HD tuners |
| [20:44:27] | iamlindoro: | I have more tuners than I have TV i want to watch |
| [20:44:58] | garth: | well, my "vision" is to serve 3 or so front ends around my house eventually |
| [20:45:29] | garth: | i think 2 tuners each should avoid most conflicts |
| [20:45:37] | iamlindoro: | Mostly |
| [20:45:58] | garth: | then again, i hardly watch live TV anymore |
| [20:46:30] | iamlindoro: | not even worth it... I have become accustomed to starting every hourlong show at exactly 16 after the hour... that's the exact amount to avoid all commercials |
| [20:47:01] | garth: | ha! i'll keep an eye out for that |
| [20:47:21] | iamlindoro: | 8 mins of commercials for every half hour, generally |
| [20:47:34] | garth: | yeah thats about right |
| [20:48:13] | garth: | I've noticed that my commflagger sometimes misses the transitions, is that somewhat common? |
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| [20:49:24] | iamlindoro: | Yeah, it's sometimes hit or miss |
| [20:49:38] | iamlindoro: | but often works well on network TV for me |
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| [20:50:43] | garth: | ok thanks for all the info, i gotta run |
| [20:50:50] | iamlindoro: | seeya |
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| [20:52:20] | iamlindoro: | Anyone know if the eventual goal is to integrate commflagging into the "recording workflow," that is to say, pipe recordings through the commflagger as they are recorded? |
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| [20:52:55] | iamlindoro: | Although, I guess finding the watermark sorta requires the whole shebang |
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| [21:01:38] | ShockValue: | is there a way to get DirecTV High-Def into mythtv? looking around, it looks like their HD is the best bang for the buck in my area |
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| [21:03:16] | iamlindoro: | nope |
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| [21:03:41] | ShockValue: | blah |
| [21:03:47] | iamlindoro: | bummer, I know |
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| [21:03:55] | ShockValue: | im sick of fighting with comcast |
| [21:04:29] | ** mkrufky hates dvb-s ** | |
| [21:04:34] | mkrufky: | ...and s2 |
| [21:04:40] | iamlindoro: | The *one* thing you might look at, and keep in mind that I have NEVER heard of anyone buying one of these or making it work, or making it work with myth... |
| [21:04:42] | Dibblah: | I was about to say :) |
| [21:04:45] | mkrufky: | lets nuke all the dishes |
| [21:04:45] | iamlindoro: | is www.169time.com |
| [21:05:27] | Dibblah: | There was a small amount of mumbling about it, I believe. Nothing ever appeared. |
| [21:05:41] | Dibblah: | (For Myth) |
| [21:06:15] | iamlindoro: | Theoretically their go-between PC just outputs Firewire video that myth should be able to use, but that's all theoretical and I wouldn't sink a thousand or so bucks to find out |
| [21:06:47] | Dibblah: | ISTR channel changing being sticky. |
| [21:07:02] | no_0ne: | i'm using a seperate frontend and backend – i'm getting about 70% io wait on backend – can someone please help me determine the cause? |
| [21:07:28] | Dibblah: | no_0ne: What issues is it causing? |
| [21:07:42] | no_0ne: | choppy playback |
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| [21:08:00] | iamlindoro: | no_0ne, dma enabled? |
| [21:08:03] | iamlindoro: | on your drive? |
| [21:08:24] | no_0ne: | how can i tell if its enabled? |
| [21:08:46] | iamlindoro: | hdparm /dev/whatever |
| [21:09:13] | Dibblah: | Grr. |
| [21:09:36] | Dibblah: | That's one of the worst myths about the kernel I've seen. |
| [21:09:46] | Dibblah: | Most have DMA enabled by default. |
| [21:10:01] | no_0ne: | hdparm -v -T /dev/sda |
| [21:10:01] | no_0ne: | /dev/sda: |
| [21:10:01] | no_0ne: | IO_support = 0 (default 16-bit) |
| [21:10:01] | no_0ne: | readonly = 0 (off) |
| [21:10:01] | no_0ne: | readahead = 256 (on) |
| [21:10:02] | no_0ne: | geometry = 4865/255/63, sectors = 78156288, start = 0 |
| [21:10:04] | no_0ne: | Timing cached reads: 800 MB in 2.00 seconds = 399.31 MB/sec |
| [21:10:06] | no_0ne: | root@backend:~# hdparm -v /dev/sda |
| [21:10:14] | Dibblah: | If it's not, it's _usually_ a chipset bug. That can cause data corruption. |
| [21:10:20] | Dibblah: | no_0ne: Don't paste in channel. |
| [21:10:24] | Dibblah: | Use pastebin. |
| [21:10:38] | no_0ne: | ok – sorry |
| [21:10:42] | Dibblah: | DMA is always enabled for SATA. |
| [21:10:42] | iamlindoro: | dibblah, by all means, if you have the answers, you solve his problem |
| [21:11:03] | no_0ne: | i have a 40G ATA |
| [21:11:04] | Dibblah: | I'm not saying it's not his issue :) |
| [21:11:20] | no_0ne: | hdparm doesn't give DMA status |
| [21:11:27] | Dibblah: | But rushing to enable DMA is _not_ a good plan. |
| [21:11:52] | djc__: | http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/tips.php |
| [21:13:01] | iamlindoro: | Has always been one of the standard solutions when I've been around, but as I said, I'll defer if you want to help him and have a better idea |
| [21:13:24] | iamlindoro: | including, as posted, in Jared's guide |
| [21:13:36] | Dibblah: | "Note that Red Hat claims some chipset/drive combinations have DMA intentionally disabled, due to bugs in the chipset, the drive or the combination of the two. Use at your own risk." |
| [21:13:45] | Dibblah: | From the page you linked. |
| [21:13:51] | iamlindoro: | I didn't link it |
| [21:14:04] | Dibblah: | Sheesh. I need my eyes tested. ;) |
| [21:14:12] | Dibblah: | And my brain, it appears. Apologies. |
| [21:14:32] | no_0ne: | is 100MB Full enough for HD playback from BE to FE? |
| [21:14:36] | iamlindoro: | anyway, doesn't matter, I'm sure he wants to get it figured out and not see us act like babies, hahaha |
| [21:14:40] | djc__: | oh.. duh.. |
| [21:14:47] | djc__: | i was suggesting the suid root on fe;) |
| [21:14:52] | iamlindoro: | no_0ne, should be |
| [21:14:55] | djc__: | i didnt know it talked about dma |
| [21:14:58] | Dibblah: | no_0ne: Yes, in most cases. |
| [21:15:14] | Dibblah: | How are your FE / BE connected, how is the storage set up? |
| [21:15:18] | iamlindoro: | anyway, dibblah, you're right, I bet the backend log probably has something insightful to say anyway |
| [21:17:30] | no_0ne: | FE/BE are connected through 100MB FD switch |
| [21:17:39] | iamlindoro: | no_0ne, is your problem only with HD content, or with sd also? |
| [21:17:44] | Dibblah: | Storage on NFS between the two? |
| [21:17:45] | no_0ne: | SD also |
| [21:17:53] | no_0ne: | no NFS |
| [21:18:00] | iamlindoro: | just mythstream? |
| [21:18:03] | no_0ne: | yes |
| [21:18:18] | Dibblah: | How is your storage provided on the BE? |
| [21:18:25] | no_0ne: | no LVM |
| [21:18:33] | Dibblah: | ie is there a local HD in the BE. |
| [21:18:39] | no_0ne: | yes |
| [21:18:43] | no_0ne: | 40G ATA |
| [21:19:10] | Dibblah: | dmesg |grep DMA |
| [21:19:13] | Dibblah: | Pastebin... |
| [21:19:43] | Dibblah: | (This is the not rushing forward DMA option) :) |
| [21:20:02] | iamlindoro: | Hey, I didn't tell him to turn it on, I just asked him to check it |
| [21:20:22] | no_0ne: | no output |
| [21:20:51] | Dibblah: | Interesting. What's the motherboard in the BE? |
| [21:21:16] | Dibblah: | Oh, wait. Have a look and see what the output of dmesg on it's own is. |
| [21:21:32] | no_0ne: | it's a dell P4 3GHZ |
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| [21:21:54] | Dibblah: | What distribution? |
| [21:21:59] | Dibblah: | Of Linux? |
| [21:22:40] | Dibblah: | iamlindoro: I'm not trying to assign blame. Yet. ;) |
| [21:23:01] | iamlindoro: | Heh |
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| [21:23:15] | djc__: | hrm.. mythdvd sb included by default, shouldnt it? |
| [21:23:24] | iamlindoro: | It's not like I told him to sudo rm -rf /* |
| [21:23:25] | djc__: | do I need to configure a dvd drive to play dvd's? |
| [21:23:26] | iamlindoro: | hehe |
| [21:23:30] | djc__: | or... hrm |
| [21:23:35] | Dibblah: | mythdvd is no longer seperate. |
| [21:23:38] | iamlindoro: | djc, included by default in what? |
| [21:23:41] | Dibblah: | Part of mythvideo now. |
| [21:23:53] | iamlindoro: | djc, what issues are you seeing? |
| [21:24:09] | no_0ne: | Gutsy 7.10 — http://pastebin.com/d34f89268 |
| [21:24:12] | djc__: | well, i seem to remember 'optical drives' somewhere when I had this setup before |
| [21:24:16] | djc__: | its not there now |
| [21:24:19] | djc__: | did I miss something? |
| [21:24:32] | iamlindoro: | Should be in Media |
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| [21:24:50] | Dibblah: | I think that's the DVR menu layout. |
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| [21:25:02] | djc__: | dangit stupid kb |
| [21:25:10] | djc__: | no, its not there.. all ive got is 'watch recrdings' |
| [21:25:13] | Dibblah: | "theme" but not theme. |
| [21:25:20] | ShockValue: | hrmpg.. im still stuck trying to get the modules to build for this pchdtv3000. my kernel modules dont match up with teh documentation |
| [21:25:25] | no_0ne: | i think my dmesg is filled up with channel scanning output |
| [21:25:37] | iamlindoro: | djc, not even watch videos? |
| [21:25:45] | iamlindoro: | Sounds like mythplugins isn't installed |
| [21:25:57] | djc__: | ok, so its _not_ part of the base install, and is is seperate, ok |
| [21:26:05] | iamlindoro: | djc, did you install from source or packages? |
| [21:26:13] | djc__: | no, that answers my question |
| [21:26:16] | Dibblah: | no_0ne: That's one verbose driver. Reboot and see what the dmesg from boot looks like. |
| [21:26:25] | djc__: | ive got the plugins and making them now |
| [21:26:28] | iamlindoro: | there you go |
| [21:26:32] | iamlindoro: | that'll do it |
| [21:26:34] | djc__: | just for some reason i thought the dvd player was supposed to be part of the base |
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| [21:26:55] | Dibblah: | Actually, it is. Mostly ;) |
| [21:27:09] | Dibblah: | Just the UI code is not. |
| [21:27:30] | djc__: | well, i meant part of /mythtv/ as opposed to part of /mythplugins/ |
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| [21:27:35] | djc__: | but nbd |
| [21:28:12] | Balachmar: | Hi, my mythtv box isn't shutting down anymore, as it is supposed to do, anyone know how to fix this? |
| [21:28:15] | no_0ne: | Dibblah: Rebooting... |
| [21:28:24] | djc__: | oh.. playback got jerky on me.. was trying to figure out why.. could have something to do with the plugins compiling ;) |
| [21:28:33] | Dibblah: | Balachmar: What did you change? |
| [21:28:41] | Dibblah: | Or rather, what changed? |
| [21:28:45] | iamlindoro: | "nothing" |
| [21:28:46] | iamlindoro: | hehehe |
| [21:28:49] | Balachmar: | Dibblah: nothing... maybe the clock |
| [21:28:52] | iamlindoro: | yesssssss |
| [21:28:54] | iamlindoro: | called it |
| [21:28:55] | Balachmar: | :) |
| [21:29:06] | Dibblah: | What does it do instead? |
| [21:29:28] | iamlindoro: | balachmar, did you run/install updates? |
| [21:29:29] | Balachmar: | saying it will shut down in 10 seconds, but taunting me by not doing so! :) |
| [21:29:40] | Balachmar: | No I did not install any updates |
| [21:29:57] | Balachmar: | The only thing I can think of that has changed is the time |
| [21:30:11] | Dibblah: | What is saying it'll shutdown? Mythwelcome / mythshutdown? |
| [21:30:20] | Balachmar: | mythwelcome |
| [21:30:23] | Dibblah: | I think there's a mythshutdown... ;) |
| [21:30:33] | Dibblah: | Tried a reboot? ;) |
| [21:30:38] | iamlindoro: | Blachmar, any BIOS changes? |
| [21:30:48] | Balachmar: | no bios changes |
| [21:30:52] | Balachmar: | tried a reboot |
| [21:30:59] | Balachmar: | also tried the fix database thing |
| [21:31:15] | Dibblah: | Is this a combined frontend / backend? |
| [21:31:28] | Balachmar: | yes |
| [21:31:43] | iamlindoro: | Well, I suppose a clock change could *theoretically* have something to do with it, since mythwelcome uses times to shut down/turn on |
| [21:31:47] | Balachmar: | I tried the optimize_mythdb.pl |
| [21:31:53] | Dibblah: | Does it believe there is a recording in progress? |
| [21:31:56] | iamlindoro: | how do your hwclock and sysclock compare? |
| [21:32:00] | Balachmar: | no, it doesn't |
| [21:32:13] | Balachmar: | iamlindoro how can I check that? |
| [21:32:29] | iamlindoro: | uhhhhhh yes it does |
| [21:32:31] | no_0ne: | Dibblah: new DMESG – http://pastebin.com/d22592792 |
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| [21:32:50] | iamlindoro: | ie, mythshutdown --wakeuptime etc called from mythwelcome |
| [21:33:11] | Dibblah: | I think that was directed at me. |
| [21:33:12] | Balachmar: | how can I check the hwclock and sysclock? |
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| [21:33:31] | Dibblah: | time |
| [21:33:32] | iamlindoro: | output of hwclock and date, and how they compare... I'm not saying I can fix it, just throwing things out there |
| [21:33:34] | Dibblah: | and hwclock |
| [21:33:55] | Dibblah: | However, it doesn't shutdown through time / date. |
| [21:34:12] | Dibblah: | What does mythwelcome -v all |
| [21:34:14] | Dibblah: | show? |
| [21:34:14] | Balachmar: | date says something different than hwclock |
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| [21:34:32] | iamlindoro: | point taken |
| [21:34:45] | iamlindoro: | And I got my wires crossed above, need *my* eyes checked too :) |
| [21:35:02] | Dibblah: | It could validly, if "hardware clock is UTC" or something like that is set. |
| [21:35:08] | djc__: | sigh |
| [21:35:20] | Dibblah: | You *could* try hwclock --systohc |
| [21:35:23] | djc__: | fe was playing, plugins were compiling, and the whole box just froze up |
| [21:35:33] | djc__: | screen is locked, all the ssh sessions went poof |
| [21:35:35] | Dibblah: | You ran out of RAM,? |
| [21:35:54] | no_0ne: | Dibblah: there is DMA info in the DMESG. What does it mean? |
| [21:35:55] | Dibblah: | The OOM killer hits! The OOM killer hits! |
| [21:36:17] | djc__: | you think thats likely? will it be logged anywhere I can see it after I cycle the box? |
| [21:36:20] | Balachmar: | I am running mythwelcome -v all now |
| [21:36:39] | Balachmar: | and it reads the wakeup time succesfully |
| [21:36:54] | Balachmar: | but then it doesn't do anything |
| [21:37:01] | iamlindoro: | perhaps try mythshutdown with -v so we can see verbose output when it tries to shut you down |
| [21:37:01] | djc__: | iirc is got 512mb, plus some reasonable swap |
| [21:37:08] | Dibblah: | no_0ne: DMA is enabled. |
| [21:37:13] | djc__: | seems off that it would run out spontaneoushly like that |
| [21:37:25] | djc__: | er, odd even |
| [21:37:45] | Dibblah: | make -j 2 can take (worst case) about 512Mb on it's own. |
| [21:38:01] | Dibblah: | Other option is your CPU overheated. |
| [21:38:08] | Dibblah: | Or it just got bored. |
| [21:38:23] | Balachmar: | what debug level should I pick? for verbose? |
| [21:38:28] | Dibblah: | -v all |
| [21:38:42] | no_0ne: | what else would cause iowait to stay at 70–80% on the BE? |
| [21:38:49] | no_0ne: | is that normal? |
| [21:39:05] | Balachmar: | that just gives me the usage... |
| [21:39:17] | djc__: | wasnt using j2 |
| [21:39:23] | djc__: | but no idea how much ram was in use |
| [21:39:32] | kormoc: | no_0ne, too much IO being attempted at once tends to cause IO WAIT |
| [21:39:52] | Dibblah: | AFAIK, it could well just be commercial flagging, if you have that enabled. |
| [21:40:02] | iamlindoro: | balachmar, what do you have mythwelcome calling to do the shutdown? Mythshutdown? If so, try mythshutdown -v (or possibly -v all) and pipe output to a file so we can look at that |
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| [21:40:19] | djc__: | commercial flagging is likely to lock the machine up? |
| [21:40:32] | no_0ne: | flagging is not enabled by default, right? |
| [21:40:56] | djc__: | i think it is. |
| [21:41:20] | djc__: | hrm.. fe was playing a recording, it could well have been comflagging, it may have been recording, and I was compling plugins |
| [21:41:21] | no_0ne: | is my drive not fast enough? is it because of streaming? |
| [21:41:26] | Dibblah: | djc__: Sorry – That was directed at no_0ne |
| [21:41:55] | Balachmar: | If I do mythwelcome --setup it says in command to shutdown sudo poweroff |
| [21:41:55] | djc__: | also have 1t swap |
| [21:42:02] | djc__: | er |
| [21:42:02] | djc__: | 1g |
| [21:42:11] | Dibblah: | That's a little extreme. |
| [21:42:14] | djc__: | i'll leave a top running |
| [21:42:33] | Balachmar: | Maybe I should have mentioned that I am using nvram-wakeup? |
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| [21:42:36] | Dibblah: | It's unlikely to be memory exhaustion if there's swap. |
| [21:42:40] | djc__: | the 1G or the 1T? :P |
| [21:42:57] | djc__: | the 1G must be what fedora set by default.. real ram x 2, probably |
| [21:43:06] | djc__: | but ive got a 300G drive, so who cares |
| [21:43:27] | djc__: | and 1T.. yeah, I wish |
| [21:43:44] | iamlindoro: | 1T swap actually sounds AWFUL, doesn't it? :) |
| [21:43:54] | Balachmar: | you should want 1T for swapping... |
| [21:43:59] | Balachmar: | :) |
| [21:44:02] | iamlindoro: | although if it were RAM x 2 I wouldn't mind |
| [21:44:06] | djc__: | well if you have 512G of ram... |
| [21:44:07] | djc__: | heh |
| [21:44:13] | ** Balachmar agrees ** | |
| [21:44:37] | djc__: | i'll say this – id love to have a large enough disk where 1T of swap would be reasonable |
| [21:44:41] | Balachmar: | iamlindoro does it matter that I am using nvram-wakeup? |
| [21:45:02] | iamlindoro: | Balachmar, I honestly don't know, I don't use mythwelcome |
| [21:45:17] | iamlindoro: | It's suspicious that it was working and spontaneously stopped, I'll say that much |
| [21:45:37] | djc__: | well i think im gonna let the plugins compile, leave a top running, with the fe shutdown |
| [21:45:56] | djc__: | then if i come back later and its died, the last screen from top will still be on my workstation |
| [21:46:03] | djc__: | top running via ssh |
| [21:46:33] | djc__: | uhm.. oh.. |
| [21:46:45] | Balachmar: | it is a nvram-wakeup thingy |
| [21:46:47] | iamlindoro: | Anyone have a lot of experience with mp4box? |
| [21:47:25] | djc__: | ok, plugins done and installed.. that was fast |
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| [21:48:24] | djc__: | hrm.. ok, optical disks is thre now.. but going and selecting play dvd the screen blanks for a minute then it returns to the menu.. do I need decss? |
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| [21:49:05] | iamlindoro: | yes |
| [21:49:15] | iamlindoro: | if it's CSS'd, that is |
| [21:49:50] | djc__: | nod |
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| [21:50:26] | djc__: | ok, does decss need to be install beore i compile, or will it work adding it after |
| [21:51:10] | iamlindoro: | Should work after |
| [21:51:14] | djc__: | well here i go to find out |
| [21:52:20] | djc__: | yeah its good |
| [21:53:07] | djc__: | heh.. 'import dvd' |
| [21:55:33] | no_0ne: | how do i disable com flagging? |
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| [21:58:37] | Balachmar: | ok, just to let all you guys know |
| [21:59:00] | Balachmar: | it was indeed the asynchronisation between the hwclock and the sysclock |
| [21:59:21] | Balachmar: | that caused nvram-wakeup to fail, so hwclock -systohw worked! |
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| [21:59:33] | iamlindoro: | Glad you got it sorted |
| [21:59:38] | Balachmar: | Thanks for the help! Going off to sleep now... |
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| [22:01:46] | djc__: | where can one disable specific plugins |
| [22:01:52] | djc__: | or do i just need to uninstall them> |
| [22:02:41] | djc__: | ok.. gotta run |
| [22:02:42] | djc__: | ttyl |
| [22:03:48] | iamlindoro: | compile and disable, OR |
| [22:03:54] | iamlindoro: | just remove them from the xml menus |
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| [22:19:50] | no_0ne: | i just noticed my choppy frontend playback keeps logging NVP: prebuffering pause – any suggestions? |
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| [22:21:31] | djbeenie: | iamlindoro: woot I finaly got it to make dots when I run irrecord..but I get this error after I enter all of my buttons.. irrecord: could not find gap. |
| [22:21:49] | djbeenie: | irrecord: gap not found, can't continue |
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| [22:24:30] | johndbritton: | in my mythbackend log im getting this error: TFW, Error: safe_write(): File I/O errcnt: 1 ... the hd is full how can i figure out which directory is full so i can move it to a bigger volume |
| [22:24:40] | iamlindoro: | djbeenie, When you first started (first step) you pressed and held a random button, right? |
| [22:24:57] | djbeenie: | im sooooo close |
| [22:25:06] | djbeenie: | no i didnt |
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| [22:25:20] | iamlindoro: | That's what the instructions say to do, I believe |
| [22:25:29] | djbeenie: | k lemme try again |
| [22:25:36] | _mre|666: | anybody got any good urls on installing and configureing lircd? |
| [22:25:40] | _mre|666: | besides lirc.org |
| [22:25:41] | _mre|666: | heh |
| [22:25:45] | iamlindoro: | on what distro |
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| [22:25:56] | _mre|666: | got my mythtv box setup right, just doesn't liek the damn remote |
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| [22:26:08] | _mre|666: | i'm using Debian, running myth as a frontend |
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| [22:26:13] | feiner: | johndbritton: type "df -h" |
| [22:26:23] | iamlindoro: | djbeenie, I have also seen that on incompatible receiver/remote combos... you are still using the included mceusb remote, right? |
| [22:26:50] | djbeenie: | yeah sir.... mceusb2 drivers |
| [22:26:57] | iamlindoro: | and mceusb remote, right? |
| [22:27:03] | iamlindoro: | The one from the pvr-150 mce? |
| [22:27:21] | djbeenie: | yep yep |
| [22:27:38] | djbeenie: | but it does not look like the one listed on their site or the box |
| [22:27:51] | no_0ne: | could high iowait on BE be the reason for NVP prebuffering pause on FE – would either/both lead to choppy video? |
| [22:27:54] | iamlindoro: | weird... and you didn't ge some bizarro open-box, huh? |
| [22:27:56] | djbeenie: | the one on box is grey..mines black with RC6 on the back |
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| [22:28:20] | djbeenie: | nope the box was sealed..i bought it from microcenter |
| [22:29:04] | iamlindoro: | hrmmmm |
| [22:29:20] | BULLE: | rc6 is what the mceusb uses if my memory serves me right |
| [22:29:23] | BULLE: | so it sounds right |
| [22:29:43] | djbeenie: | i got this message this time.. RC-6 remote control found.... it wants me to continue |
| [22:30:01] | BULLE: | checked my remote, its a ms mce remote, but its rc-6 |
| [22:30:06] | BULLE: | i think all the mce remotes are rc6 |
| [22:30:32] | iamlindoro: | djbeenie, there you go |
| [22:30:37] | djbeenie: | iamlindoro: this message now No toggle bit mask found. But I know for sure that RC6 has a toggle bit! |
| [22:30:38] | iamlindoro: | you just failed to hold down the first time |
| [22:30:46] | johndbritton: | it was my mythbackend.log.x files, they are each about 3GB |
| [22:30:47] | iamlindoro: | blehhhhh |
| [22:30:54] | johndbritton: | all filled with the same error TFW, Error: safe_write(): File I/O errcnt: 1 |
| [22:30:59] | djbeenie: | what does that mean? |
| [22:31:58] | iamlindoro: | did it fail, or just give that and move on? |
| [22:32:17] | djbeenie: | woot I did it again..and now I get this Please enter the name for the next button (press <ENTER> to finish recording) |
| [22:32:28] | djbeenie: | what do I do now |
| [22:33:00] | feiner: | johndbritton: type "df -h" on the command line it will tell you how full your partitions are |
| [22:33:01] | djbeenie: | hell i dont know the names of these buttons lol |
| [22:33:26] | iamlindoro: | Name them yourself, it doesn't matter |
| [22:33:29] | iamlindoro: | Power, Play, etc |
| [22:33:32] | johndbritton: | feiner: yeah, thanks... i found the prb to be the log files were taking up every last bit of space |
| [22:33:38] | iamlindoro: | you will just use thsoe names when writing your lircrc |
| [22:33:39] | johndbritton: | how can i prevent that |
| [22:34:07] | feiner: | johndbritton: delete them, how many were there? |
| [22:34:23] | johndbritton: | just two, but they were 4GB each... from mythtv |
| [22:34:41] | feiner: | you can run a cron job to clean them up, not sure if theres a way in mythtv to delete them after so long but i think there is somewhere |
| [22:35:47] | feiner: | look under setup > general somewhere in there wherever the log thing is might have it |
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| [22:36:52] | feiner: | and thats only 8 gigs of space unless you record your shows at a lower resolution or delete them or move them right away it wont give you much room to record more either |
| [22:37:06] | djbeenie: | iamlindoro: god this is a pain in the you know what...haha .. im doing what it says.. Name the button, press enter..and hold the button..i get Sorry, something went wrong. |
| [22:37:09] | djbeenie: | try again |
| [22:37:22] | iamlindoro: | Yup, that's no good |
| [22:37:38] | iamlindoro: | I dunno, I'm thrown by the fact that you appear to have a diff. receiver and remote than usual |
| [22:37:49] | iamlindoro: | it might be worth heading back to microcenter to get the one that everyone has |
| [22:37:52] | djbeenie: | GAWD!! lol |
| [22:38:08] | djbeenie: | yeah i may have too |
| [22:39:26] | feiner: | djbeenie: your remote came with a hauppage? as far as i know they have changed remotes 3 or 4 times |
| [22:39:40] | djbeenie: | feiner: yes sir |
| [22:39:50] | djbeenie: | its the RC6 one |
| [22:39:58] | adante: | hi, i'm reading some guides which are saying not to use reiserfs as the fs for storing recordings due to random corruption, just wondering if this is still the case? (guides a bit dated) |
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| [22:40:52] | feiner: | yeah i dunno just what ive read different places has said they have changed them a few times so depending on which howto you followed it may have mentioned an incorrect driver for the one you have |
| [22:41:23] | djbeenie: | WOOOT I GOT IT TO WORK!!!! i found a script.. http://lirc.cvs.sourceforge.net/*checkout*/li . . . revision=1.4 |
| [22:41:30] | djbeenie: | HELL YEAH IRW is working |
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| [22:41:35] | johndbritton: | ive got mythtv setup do do commflagging, and after each recording it adds a job to the jobque, but it never actually does the flagging |
| [22:41:56] | djbeenie: | gezzus...that only took like 4 damn days to figure out haha |
| [22:42:09] | johndbritton: | djbeenie: congrats! |
| [22:42:09] | iamlindoro: | sweet, now all you need is lircrc and you're set... which distro you on again? |
| [22:42:21] | feiner: | johndbritton: you have to allow at least 1 job where it says simultaneous jobs allowed on this machine |
| [22:42:34] | johndbritton: | hmm, tahts a good place to look |
| [22:42:40] | johndbritton: | thanks ill check that out |
| [22:42:43] | djbeenie: | iamlindoro: gentoo.. whats lircrc do? |
| [22:42:51] | feiner: | otherwise itll never do the job |
| [22:42:56] | iamlindoro: | associates those buttons to commands... still won't do anything until you get one |
| [22:43:13] | iamlindoro: | follow your howto to see how to write one |
| [22:43:31] | djbeenie: | hmmm |
| [22:43:33] | johndbritton: | feiner: JobQueueMaxSimultaneousJobs 1 |
| [22:43:40] | feiner: | djbeenie: link to a howto for one from gentoo http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Setup_MythTV/Hau . . . ythtv_lircrc |
| [22:43:57] | feiner: | another related one http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Setup_LIRC_for_MythTV |
| [22:44:08] | djbeenie: | looking now :) |
| [22:44:30] | djbeenie: | ok since I have my remote setup... this should forward commands to my satelite box? |
| [22:44:46] | djbeenie: | or is this what im setting up now? |
| [22:46:17] | feiner: | djbeenie: not sure, depends what sat box you got, does it hook up to the computer? |
| [22:46:32] | iamlindoro: | No, you're setting up being able to press buttons and have various application, including myth, respond to them |
| [22:46:47] | feiner: | johndbritton: not to sure what to tell you, im not very experienced myself just helping others out with what i can |
| [22:46:48] | djbeenie: | feiner: nope.. i have a ir blaster that is connected with my reciever |
| [22:47:00] | djbeenie: | oh ok |
| [22:47:34] | feiner: | djbeenie: you'll have to find an id blaster tutorial, i haven't set one up so im not sure i'll be of much help |
| [22:47:37] | djc__: | lircd.conf tells lircd how to listen to ir, and maps remote ir codes to button names.. lircrc, tells mythtv what button names do what |
| [22:47:37] | feiner: | ir |
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| [22:48:00] | djc__: | i havent treaded into setting up transmitting ir codes to control something else |
| [22:48:22] | feiner: | yeah but lirc also controls ir blasters doesnt it? atleast i think it does |
| [22:48:29] | feiner: | jus tnot sure how to set it up |
| [22:48:33] | djc__: | dunno.. i wouldnt worry about that part yet |
| [22:48:42] | djbeenie: | my blaster is plugged into my reciever |
| [22:48:57] | iamlindoro: | yes, it does, but depends on your module |
| [22:49:08] | johndbritton: | feiner: thanks, ill keep trying |
| [22:49:09] | djc__: | yeah, i saw you have mceusb.. same as me.. ive got the transmitters, but dont need them for anything |
| [22:49:14] | iamlindoro: | djbeenie, *yours* will work, but you will need a script to control it and to add the remote you are trying to emulate to lircd.conf |
| [22:49:41] | feiner: | johndbritton: no problem, if i could tell you any more i would. |
| [22:50:18] | iamlindoro: | My channel change script |
| [22:50:20] | iamlindoro: | http://www.pastebin.ca/758135 |
| [22:50:32] | feiner: | johndbritton: oh wait, on the commercial flagging setup screen how do you have it set up to recognize commercials |
| [22:50:36] | djc__: | im debating – either go out buy a new (quiet) mainboard/cpu to migrate my mythbox into so I can put it in the br with my tv, or skip al that for now and go to a comedy club |
| [22:50:39] | iamlindoro: | note REMOTE_NAME=DCT2524 |
| [22:50:43] | johndbritton: | feiner: all |
| [22:50:48] | iamlindoro: | There is a remote in lircd.conf called DCT2524 |
| [22:51:02] | feiner: | djc__: comedy club |
| [22:51:17] | feiner: | can always do computer stuff late at night, haha |
| [22:51:36] | djc__: | yeah i was leaning that way anyway |
| [22:51:53] | djc__: | i dont tend to get out much.. thursdays is my only 'free' day, and not even every thursday at that |
| [22:52:05] | djc__: | ok, im off then |
| [22:52:26] | djbeenie: | iamlindoro: cool cool... i just want to beable to set up records...and have my box change the channell to the appropriate channell so it will record |
| [22:52:45] | iamlindoro: | Right, so you need to add definitions for your sat remote to lircd.conf |
| [22:52:53] | feiner: | johndbritton: ok, cant think of anything else again, if i come up with something while im in the shower ill tell ya if you're still around |
| [22:53:00] | iamlindoro: | then create that script and change the remote_name to whatever you called your sat remote in lircd.conf |
| [22:53:10] | johndbritton: | thakns, i appreciate it |
| [22:53:11] | iamlindoro: | then set it to external channel change script in mythtv |
| [22:53:43] | johndbritton: | does anyone have a good knowledge of how the jobqueue works? |
| [22:56:40] | djbeenie: | iamlindoro: ok lircrc is setup |
| [22:56:54] | iamlindoro: | OK, you should be all set to control your system |
| [22:57:09] | iamlindoro: | nwo you just need to get the stuff I mentioned set up if you want to send commands to your sat box |
| [22:58:25] | djbeenie: | iamlindoro: where does that script go? |
| [22:59:01] | iamlindoro: | anywhere you want, I put mine in /usr/sbin/change_chan.sh |
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| [22:59:34] | iamlindoro: | then, in mythtv-setup, on your capture card, you set your external channel change script to /usr/sbin/change_chan.sh |
| [22:59:49] | iamlindoro: | keep in mind you need to have your sat remotes definitions in lircd.conf or it won't work |
| [23:00:05] | djbeenie: | ahh really |
| [23:00:14] | djbeenie: | where do I find those? |
| [23:01:31] | djbeenie: | I have setup my remote, do I need to restart something to read my config> |
| [23:01:44] | iamlindoro: | probably not |
| [23:01:54] | djbeenie: | hmm not working |
| [23:01:54] | iamlindoro: | you could record your sat remote or try to find it at lirc.org |
| [23:02:03] | djbeenie: | ok |
| [23:02:03] | iamlindoro: | then sudo /etc/init.d/lircd restart |
| [23:02:06] | iamlindoro: | what's not working? |
| [23:02:20] | djbeenie: | i opened up mythfront end |
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| [23:02:27] | djbeenie: | and cant do anything with the remote |
| [23:02:51] | iamlindoro: | did you put lircrc as ~/.lircrc AND ~/.mythtv/lircrc? |
| [23:03:01] | iamlindoro: | (first one WITH preceding period, second one WITHOUT) |
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| [23:03:48] | djbeenie: | ok lemme do that |
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| [23:05:59] | Juergen34|: | someone a good tip how i could find out if a dvb-c channel is providing epg data ? tried tv_grab_dvb but saw nothing... I specialy looking for channels of germany (rtl2, tele5) |
| [23:08:44] | djbeenie: | iamlindoro: ok yeah i think my config is jacked.. lol when i press buttons its doing random things |
| [23:08:47] | Juergen34|: | On some channels mythtv has epg data on some not, so I wondering if there is simply no data, or if I made a mistake |
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| [23:14:11] | feiner: | djbeenie: depending what you named your buttons in irrecord you may have to change names in your lircrc files to match especially if you are just using ones that iamlindoro sent you |
| [23:14:33] | iamlindoro: | djbeenie ^^ exactly what he said |
| [23:14:45] | iamlindoro: | Print out your lircd.conf |
| [23:14:47] | iamlindoro: | and your lircrc |
| [23:14:52] | iamlindoro: | and cross-reference the names |
| [23:15:13] | djbeenie: | ahh *sigh* lawd what a pain in the arse. hahahaha thanks guys you have been a great help! |
| [23:15:24] | iamlindoro: | ok, goin' home, bye for now |
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| [23:15:32] | djbeenie: | later bro |
| [23:15:37] | feiner: | my shower didnt have any great revelations to my about johndbrittons problems though |
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| [23:18:57] | feiner: | djbeenie: if you cant figure out the lircrc thing give all three of them a paste somewhere and ill look see if i can figure anything out |
| [23:19:35] | djbeenie: | feiner: will do :) im using this site.. its pretty neat.. http://lircconfig.commandir.com |
| [23:20:23] | feiner: | yeah i saw that somewhere when i was looking stuff up before, didnt try it out yet though |
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| [23:26:06] | djbeenie: | feiner: what button is OSD lookup? |
| [23:26:11] | djbeenie: | is that normaly? |
| [23:31:52] | feiner: | not sure what button most people use |
| [23:32:57] | feiner: | all depends on personal prefference really, one that looks like some text or a menu so it infers that it brings up an osd to the users, or if its just gonna be you whatever button you prefer to use |
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| [23:35:10] | GreyFoxx: | M brings up the OSD menu, I (info) brings up the info osd. You can press I 3 times in arow to get 3 different levels of OSD info |
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| [23:36:49] | feiner: | oh, i thought he meant on the remote |
| [23:37:39] | djbeenie: | ahh |
| [23:37:40] | djbeenie: | ok |
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| [23:51:54] | johnsu01: | so, I'm setting up mythtv on a new debian testing system, and the whole machine hangs when I try to watch a recording. I think this is related to xv, because playing DVDs with the internal player did it too, but doesn't do it when I use xine. |
| [23:52:15] | johnsu01: | is there a way to tell the internal tv recording player to not use xv? |
| [23:52:56] | johnsu01: | or, alternatively, any idea how to improve my X configuration so that this doesn't happen? it happened with both the ati and radeon drivers, and both with framebuffer and without. |
| [23:54:07] | johnsu01: | it's a ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R100 QD [Radeon 7200] |
| [23:55:27] | johnsu01: | pretty annoying to debug, since every try means a full reboot ;) |
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