Beirdobot, irc.freenode.net

Wednesday, October 24th, 2007, 00:00 UTC

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eugo:

i starting saving up for hardware =]

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yoh:

hello, anyone ever tried using a Pinnacle DC30Plus?

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Der_Thomas:

[miles]: I can't find exactly what I'm looking for, but I think that this will help

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Der_Thomas:

http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-10.html#ss10.4

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xris:

Cyberai: check your username case, make sure your acct is active (log into the sd website)

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[miles]:

ok thank you Der_Thomas

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Der_Thomas:

[miles]: you have to go to utilities->setup->TVsettings->Playback on the 1st page you'll see something there for filters. You'll want to use the custom string to define your filters

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Der_Thomas:

there is a page (in the wiki) I think that goes into this in detail, but I can't find it right now

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[miles]:

I guess I can't just use the same string from kaffine no?

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[miles]:

it's like perfect the quality

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Cyberai:

xris, jusrt did, everything looks fine

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Der_Thomas:

[miles]: I just started playing with this myself, but I think you are right

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Der_Thomas:

*ANYONE* here know anything about playback filters?

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[miles]:

lol

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Der_Thomas:

I tried INVERT that you can use to reverse the video so you can make sure that your filters are working and it doesn't work...

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_mre|666:

god, i had this perfect

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_mre|666:

go and change something, and it screws up my entire schedule

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_mre|666:

ugh

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eugo:

what VIA motherboard has HDTV decoding?

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eric:

can someone tell me what mythzoneminder is

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_mre|666:

no idea

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eric:

i get an error will compilling it

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Der_Thomas:

eric: no ider

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Der_Thomas:

eugo, no idea

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_mre|666:

anybody got any good howtos on PVR-x50 remote controlls, using lircd?

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eric:

i disabled it in the plugins configue

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_mre|666:

this remote just refuses to recognize in myth

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eric:

now i can compile fine

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_mre|666:

and i'm getting sick of using a keyboard for everything

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_mre|666:

maybe a wireless keyboard would be better

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xris:

Cyberai: odd. you can always log into SD and change your password (even to the same thing) and it'll resync with TMS, but if you see your lineups at SD, all of that stuff is working fine. Just double check that your username is all lowercase (like it shows at SD) and retype your password

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Der_Thomas:

_mre|666 do "lsmod | grep lirc"

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_mre|666:

doesn't work

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_mre|666:

did it

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_mre|666:

got the right lircd.conf loaded

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_mre|666:

on boot

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eric:

from the mythtv wiki ZoneMinder is a Linux video camera security and surveillance solution

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** SarahEmm has a duplicate issue... myth is refusing to ever record an episode of House, because it says it was previously recorded on 2007-09–29. If I look in previous recordings though, there's nothing on that date. any ideas? **

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eric:

i will leave it disabled then

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_mre|666:

let me try soemthing else

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Der_Thomas:

_mre|666: what happens if you do 'irw'

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Cyberai:

xris, I just deleted my video sources and re-added them. I can retrieve the lineups, but when I go to set up my inputs I keep getting that 401.

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xris:

Cyberai: still sounds like a typo in mythtv-setup

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xris:

or wait.. you can download the lineups into mythtv?

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Cyberai:

yeah, I can get it to see that I have an analog and a digital lineup

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Cyberai:

I can go to video sources and hit "Retrieve Lineups" for a source and it grabs it

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Luke4:

http://pastebin.ca/747401 How can I change the

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Luke4:

http://pastebin.ca/747401 How can I change the "XVideo Adaptor Name" to something else?

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_mre|666:

i think this remote is bad

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SarahEmm:

C:Ear

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SarahEmm:

oops

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Der_Thomas:

_mre|666: why do you think that? it is hard to help you with out some information

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Luke4:

Ohh, nevermind. Got it myself.

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Der_Thomas:

Anyone know how to add video in from my PVR-150 s-video input?

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williammanda:

when the master backend gets restarted....the slave backend doesn't reconnect automatically...how can I change that?

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williammanda:

I have to manually restart the slave backend

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mikeones:

a ssh script?

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williammanda:

the slave used to look for the master to restart

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williammanda:

is that standard now for the slave to be restarted?

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Cyberai:

xris – I just noticed that if I go back into video sources, the lineup is gone, even though I get it, it won't "stick"?

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Luke4:

Is there a mythtv client designed for a regular desktop? Something like winmyth for linux? I've got mythfrontend running, but the interface isn't ideal for a desktop (moving the window around and such)

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Der_Thomas:

Luke4: I have no idea what winmyth is like, but what makes it better then mythfronend?

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Luke4:

I have a backend hidden in a closet, and I want to use my everyday TV as a frontend. But I can't reall have it open as a seperate window playing video or tv, while browsing the web or something. I'm wondering if there's a player that'll allow me to resize the window, move it around, etc.

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Luke4:

http://winmyth.sourceforge.net/winmyth-sc2.jpg

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GreyFoxx:

Luke4: You can tell mythfrontend to run with a Window border for moving around, and you can tell it the size to be in the screen

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GreyFoxx:

IT's just not dynamically resizable

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Luke4:

Yeah, I've got it in window mode, but I don't think it's capable of running like any other X window

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GreyFoxx:

It can be minimized, and moved, just not dynamically resized

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Der_Thomas:

Luke4: what do you mean?

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Luke4:

The only way you can move it is by changing the x/y offset in the settings, right?

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GreyFoxx:

Luke4: No, I grab the titlebar and drag it

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SarahEmm:

no, in window mode it should act like any other window

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GreyFoxx:

There is awindow mode to draw the titlebar and border around it

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Luke4:

Huh, in window mode, I don't have a titlebar...

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SarahEmm:

your other windows have titlebars though Luke4?

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Der_Thomas:

you need to go to utilities->setup-> appearance the 2nd or 3rd screen will have a check box near the bottom that says Run in wondow

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Der_Thomas:

s/i/o/

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Luke4:

Yeah, all the other windows have titlebars. And I did set the Run in window checkbox. It's in a window right now, but it doesn't have borders of a titlebar

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Luke4:

ahh, found the problem

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GreyFoxx:

weird

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Der_Thomas:

what WM?

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Luke4:

I'l using compiz. When I switch to metacity, the titlebar pops up

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eugo:

is HDTV playback supported on any of the VIA systems?

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Der_Thomas:

I think that HDTV will work on ANYTHING if you have the right TV encoder to encode the video off of the mobo and the right video card that can decode the video off of the mobo too

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Der_Thomas:

but that is just me guess

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Der_Thomas:

I don't do hdtv yet

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Der_Thomas:

Anyone know why the INVERT filter does not work with XvMC?

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eugo:

it says on the via homepage that it sports a "MPEG-2 Accelerator", i guess if they don't specify it, it doesnt

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crazy_bus:

I just installed my first dvb-t pci card. But it seems I need to find out the channels for my area. (manilla, nsw, australia) is there any place to find them?

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Cyberai:

has anyone seen a situation where you can select a listings lineup in the video sources portion of mythtv-setup and hit "finish", then if you go back into the source setup the listing is gone?

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Cyberai:

its like it's not saving it

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Agrajag-:

crazy_bus: i have them in /usr/share/doc/dvb-utils/examples/scan/dvb-t/au-*

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crazy_bus:

for manilla?

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Agrajag-:

dunno, there's a au-MidNorthCoast

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crazy_bus:

100 signal,56 snr but it doesn't find any stations when using Midnorthcoast.

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Agrajag-:

i guess you could try www.dba.org.au – not sure if they have freqs though

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kormoc:

Cyberai, did you run mythfilldatabase?

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Cyberai:

no, I can't get to that point. I can't get a channel listing to stay put in video sources and I can't retreive listinsg in the input setup.

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Cyberai:

kormoc – no, I can't get to that point. I can't get a channel listing to stay put in video sources and I can't retreive listinsg in the input setup.

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leprechau:

anyone know if there is a way to do like a 'play all' in the media library videos

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leprechau:

or queue up more than one vid for consecutive play?

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mzb_d800:

crazy_bus: try a couple of things: increase your tuning timeouts, and|or manually specify transports to scan

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crazy_bus:

set it to the maximum timeout and it found nothing

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mzb_d800:

manually specify transports to scan then (fill in the details on the left side, at minimum)

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crazy_bus:

is there a guide on how to find out what to put there?

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mzb_d800:

got a STB?

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mzb_d800:

or google for australian digital TV

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venger:

does the builtin lirc support allow for controlling xine, etc or will i have to use irxevent ?

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kormoc:

you can use xine,etc's lirc support

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venger:

something has to send the ir codes to xine, would it be myth? right now i'm playing with xine and it isn't responding to ir commands. i did find a hauppauge based native lircrc file to use and that works find for myth

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venger:

i placed that file in ~/.mythtv/ and it has xine based entries

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kormoc:

xine can understand ~/.lircrc files

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kormoc:

the one in ~/.mythtv/lircrc is myth specific

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kormoc:

lirc would be sending the ir codes to xine

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kormoc:

myth is just a lirc client, like xine is

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Daviey:

Is there a reason ~/.mythtv/lircrc can be a symlink to ~/.lircrc and contain _both_ xine and mythtv entries?

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Daviey:

s/can/can't/

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kormoc:

can't think of any

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venger:

alright then ill splice it up, not sure why i'd find a "native" lircrc file to contain xine based commands, unless its for specifying an other than default loc and then having xine read only things it need like irexec does

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kormoc:

venger, the xine website covers that, http://www.xinehq.de/index.php/readme#2.4.4

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venger:

Daviey, excellent indirect suggestion. I symlinked and xine reads the relevant xine entries in ~/.mythtv/lircrc

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Daviey:

venger: woot

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adante:

howdy, i'm finding remote control via lirc in myth to be rather slow

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venger:

adante are mode2 and more so irw responsive?

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adante:

venger: not sure what mode2 is.. but irw is very responsive

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venger:

maybe tail the lircd log see if its complaining?

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adante:

hhm don't seem to have an lircd log, but will give that a go

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venger:

mode2, smode2, xmode2 – shows the pulse/space length of infrared signals <--from the man page, basically a step lower than lircd... a pre-requisite check before concentration on the lirc config

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venger:

mine is /var/log/lircd

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venger:

or if you are debian possibly /var/log/daemon.log

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adante:

venger: oh yep there it is, cheers

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adante:

hm there is a message that says you should specify a valid gap value

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venger:

adante if you can't use a preconfigured remote then i'd rerun irrecord and make sure it detects a gap

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venger:

a preconfigure lircd.conf specific to your remote already contributed i meant to say

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adante:

hmm yeah thats probably a good idea

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adante:

say is it normal for irw to only output stuff when you have a valid lircd.conf

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am_dragon:

Hey guys, I've got a couple questions.

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am_dragon:

I built a mythtv box this weekend, had almost everything working then I had a crash due to bad ram, ended up reloading.

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am_dragon:

now I have problems I didn't have before.

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adante:

i tried using the config from the lirc site (http://lirc.sourceforge.net/remotes/leadtek/Y0400052 <- this IS a lircd.conf right?) but got nowhere.. had to use this monstrosity instead http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies. . . . 066#r9872066

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am_dragon:

I have a panasonic ae-700 720p projector, X won't pick it up, defaults to 640x480.

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am_dragon:

I even saved the xorg.conf from the first install and that didn't solve the problem.

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yoh:

hello, anyone ever tried using a Pinnacle DC30Plus?

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yoh:

(with mythtv)

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am_dragon:

"var/log/xorg" says unable to validay mode, I have the modes for my projector (from the Wiki) in xorg.conf

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venger:

am_dragon, run something like X -configure > /tmp/X.log and see what it detects and how it does, also sometimes you may need to ignore edid i do believe

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am_dragon:

oh how do you ignore the edid?

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venger:

am_dragon, ask google i dont have to do it myself

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am_dragon:

useEDID

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am_dragon:

IgnoreEDID. :)

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am_dragon:

already did

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venger:

well adante what make/model is the remote

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am_dragon:

sweet, I'll go try that

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Der_Thomas:

anyone here use custom deinterlace filters?

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Der_Thomas:

I'm playing around with them and can't figure out what are the best filters to use for smooth and sharp playback

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adante:

venger: it's the Y0400052 i linked earlier (pretty sure of this, it is a leadtek remote and says y0400052 on it)

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adante:

hrm speaking of which i appear to have misplaced it

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venger:

its halfway between where you are and the other place you sit

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venger:

adante, http://www.koders.com/noncode/fidBC3860D389FE . . . C69F56E.aspx

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Sonicadvance1:

I seem to be having a problem with my pcHDTV HD-5500. The video quality is superb! but the audio has a very high pitched noise to it that I can't seem to fix. Is there any way that anyone knows to fix this?

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mikeones:

is there any way to increase the quaility in mythweb video playback if I have a larger upload pipe?

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bsdfox_:

it should play back at full quality already..

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bsdfox_:

at least mine does

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mikeones:

it looks lie 320x240 at 256k

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mikeones:

*like

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bsdfox_:

that sucks

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mikeones:

I guess yours is the same.

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Der_Thomas:

Everytime I start myth it resets the color, brightness, saturation etc on my PVR-150. I don't like these settings but I can't find where to change this

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Der_Thomas:

Anyone know where ot set the brightenss, etc globally?

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Sedorox:

what would cause a frontend to have green and red strips on it.. I can hear audio.. but no video

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am_dragon:

wow

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am_dragon:

I'm trying to get x to set a resolution of 1280x720 still doesn't work

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am_dragon:

option "UseEDID" "FALSE" ignores edid but it still says in the log 1280x720 is not valid.

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Sonicadvance1:

I can't compile the driver for my pcHDTV HD-5500 D:

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am_dragon:

if I plug in a monitor it goes to 1280x720 no problem.

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Kazan:

isn't front end supposed to murder xscreensaver when it receives a lirc input... or does xss steel lirc input focus?

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am_dragon:

Sonicadvance1 – are you getting an error?

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Sonicadvance1:

missing include files for it. but they are ones that I'm not sure where to get

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Sonicadvance1:

error: linux/devfs_fs_kernel.h: No such file or directory

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Sonicadvance1:

error: linux/config.h: No such file or directory

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Der_Thomas:

Do you have your Kernel source installed?

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am_dragon:

what distro?

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Sonicadvance1:

Ubuntu 7.10

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am_dragon:

you will have to install the source from apt-get or synaptic

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am_dragon:

then you may also have to modify the path slightly for the kernel source.

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Sonicadvance1:

and what is the package called?

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Sonicadvance1:

:P

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Der_Thomas:

something like kernel source

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am_dragon:

seach for source it's under "linux 2.6...

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Der_Thomas:

run synaptic and search for it

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Sonicadvance1:

hm

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Sonicadvance1:

I see

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Sonicadvance1:

gonna take a minute to download it

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Der_Thomas:

yeah it is prob kind of big

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Sonicadvance1:

round 45MB

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Der_Thomas:

oh thats not bad

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Der_Thomas:

I would install linux-source and linux-kernel-devel

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Der_Thomas:

BTW

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Sonicadvance1:

o_o

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am_dragon:

linux-source

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am_dragon:

just a sec I'll look for you

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mistone:

I just upgraded from alpha to 7.10 on mythbuntu and now a bunch of stuff is broken

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Der_Thomas:

anyone here use a PVR-x50 or 500?

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mistone:

like I try to watch tv and it says that something is recording but not is recording

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mistone:

is there a way to delete the job queue ?

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mistone:

I want to watch house lol

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am_dragon:

linux-source-2.6.20 on my 7.10 box

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Sonicadvance1:

woo for no devfs_fs_kernel.h

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Der_Thomas:

yeah it is prob in linux-kernel-devel

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Sonicadvance1:

already installed it

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mistone:

ithe trying to watch tv but its not recording anything is a problem with the kernel

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mistone:

lol no way

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am_dragon:

the package is not looking at the right path.

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am_dragon:

I'm pretty sure

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Sonicadvance1:

I am using the search program to look for it

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am_dragon:

look in /usr/src

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Sonicadvance1:

well, there is that file but it is buried in there and empty

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Sonicadvance1:

/usr/src/modules/alsa-driver/include/linux/devfs_fs_kernel.h

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Sonicadvance1:

0 bytes

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Sonicadvance1:

:P

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djc__:

if I edit lircrc, do I need to restart myth?

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djc__:

Ok.. nvm.. what I was going to try is already in there

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am_dragon:

I've got a problem get my X to set 1280x720 for my projector.

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am_dragon:

anybody got any ideas on that on?

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** Sonicadvance1 shrugs **

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djc__:

Ive got lircd up, running irw and pressing remote buttons gets me output that makes sense (I press chup, i get output that says 'ChanUp pressed', etc)

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djc__:

ive got a .mythtv/lircrc that seems to make sense

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djc__:

but when I run mythfe none of the remote buttons have any effect

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djc__:

well. i havent checked *every* button.. but the logical ones (such as 'enter' or 'OK') to attempt to select 'Watch TV' definately dont work

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djc__:

ok, and ive just tried a smattering of buttons all over the remote, to no effect

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djc__:

anyone have any idea what might be wrong?

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djc__:

ive read the docs and the howtos, and followed the instructions.. it seems perhaps some important step is missing from them

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djc__:

ok, ive just noticed in the startup messages from the fw some errors regarding lircrc

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djc__:

but im using the stock example from lirc for the mceusb remote im using

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djc__:

err.. hrm..

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djc__:

nvm.. thats not right

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Sonicadvance1:

meh, what a waste of money I bought >_>

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djc__:

ah ha!

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djc__:

now it works

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** Sonicadvance1 chucks the $130 TV tuner >.> **

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am_dragon:

ok, I htought that tuner worked out of the box.

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Sonicadvance1:

That's what I thought

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Sonicadvance1:

That's the reason I bought it

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am_dragon:

well I read up on mine and I've got troubles too.

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am_dragon:

Kworld 115

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am_dragon:

ntsc side of the card isn't working correctly.

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Sonicadvance1:

Meh, if a TV tuner can't work better than an 18 year old TV, that's pretty horrible

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am_dragon:

you are on 7.10, what drivers do you need?

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Sonicadvance1:

The ones on the website it seems

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am_dragon:

you system didn't see the tuner? Is it in the dmesg?

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Sonicadvance1:

no no

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am_dragon:

ls /dev/video*

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Sonicadvance1:

It sees it fine

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Sonicadvance1:

the Video is fantastic

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Sonicadvance1:

the audio though

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Sonicadvance1:

The audio is HORRIBLE

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am_dragon:

oh, does the HD side work?

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** Sonicadvance1 shrugs **

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Sonicadvance1:

I don't have any HDTV channels

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am_dragon:

OK, I've got a similar problem, differnt card.

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Sonicadvance1:

Is it where the is High Pitched noise in the audio?

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am_dragon:

my audio on the ntsc side is highpitched and to fast.

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Sonicadvance1:

well, Mine isn't too fast

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am_dragon:

petty close.

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Sonicadvance1:

just high pitched

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Sonicadvance1:

gives me a headache

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am_dragon:

do "ls /dev/dsp*

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am_dragon:

no quote

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am_dragon:

ls /dev/dsp*

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Sonicadvance1:

returns dsp and dsp1

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Sonicadvance1:

dsp1 comes from the TV tuner

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am_dragon:

in the backend do you have it set to dsp1?

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Sonicadvance1:

yes

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am_dragon:

and did you try capping the audio at 32000

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Sonicadvance1:

tried all three and none

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am_dragon:

I'm starting to think this is an ubuntu problem.

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am_dragon:

I've got pretty much the same problem.

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Sonicadvance1:

I was going to try knoppmyth but it wasn't detecting my IDE drive so I gave up on it

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am_dragon:

have you tried TVtime?

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Sonicadvance1:

nope

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am_dragon:

sudo apt-get tvtime.

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am_dragon:

sudo apt-get install tvtime.

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am_dragon:

that is

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Sonicadvance1:

too late! D:

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Sonicadvance1:

already installed

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Sonicadvance1:

:P

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am_dragon:

I have to run it as sudo tvtime

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Sonicadvance1:

woo fuzz

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am_dragon:

all channels?

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Sonicadvance1:

yep :P

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am_dragon:

pink and green or like tv static?

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Sonicadvance1:

pink and green

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am_dragon:

I get the same thing.

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Sonicadvance1:

D:

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am_dragon:

anybody know a what X would consider a "valid mode" for my 720p projector?

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am_dragon:

the settings recommend on the myth wiki don't work.

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am_dragon:

I've tried using "UseEdid" "False"

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hendrixski:

help. I _can_ log into the mythconverg database (as root ... and all of the tables are set up) but somehow when I try to run mythtv everything blows up.

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hendrixski:

I tried again after deleting the .mythtv/mysql.txt file which has caused me headaches before, but no go. WTF? can somebody help?

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mzb_d800:

ensure the mythtv@yourhost has access to mythconverg

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am_dragon:

sonic are you trying to reinstall the alsa on your system?

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Sonicadvance1:

am_dragon, no

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am_dragon:

drivers?

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mzb_d800:

run mythfrontend from a console to see the reason why it's not woorking

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hendrixski:

mzb_d800, how do I do that?

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Sonicadvance1:

yes am_dragon, the drivers for the pcHDTV HD-5500

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am_dragon:

do you know what they are called?

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mzb_d800:

hendrixski: check the wiki re the issue: there are methods to fix listed

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Sonicadvance1:

no clue, they have the download on their site though

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hendrixski:

mzb_d800, I'm browsing through the wiki right now, can you link me to these methods?

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hendrixski:

mzb_d800, if you're talking about " mysql -u mythtv -pmythtv mythconverg " then, that works. yes

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hendrixski:

and that's mythtv@localhost, right?

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mzb_d800:

that would completely depend on *your* setup

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hendrixski:

so then if that works, why does it still take a crap all over my screen with SQL jiberish?

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mzb_d800:

not enough info

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mzb_d800:

is backend running?

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hendrixski:

mzb_d800, it's the default setup... I just apt-get installed it, and ran mythtv setup

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mzb_d800:

is backend running?

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hendrixski:

nope

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mzb_d800:

right, well the frontend is going to get really confused if it can't find it

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mzb_d800:

can you start the backend?

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hendrixski:

nope

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mzb_d800:

why

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hendrixski:

because when I run that it tells me: Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'localhost' (using password: YES)

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hendrixski:

which confuses _me_ because I can log into said database

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hendrixski:

as user mythtv... but the backend can't

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mzb_d800:

check the difference between /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt and /home/mythtv/.mythtv/mysql.txt

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** Sonicadvance1 eats layered cake **

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mzb_d800:

aw, not fair ;) ... might have to mow the lawn now so I've got an excuse to drink beer instead :)

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Sonicadvance1:

:P

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hendrixski:

mzb_d800, the diff is that one has commments the other doesn't... the username and password are the same

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hendrixski:

oh yeah, and .mythtv/mysql.txt defines DBType, the one int /etc/mythtv does not

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mzb_d800:

do you have any other backends | frontends ?

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hendrixski:

mzb_d800, ah... I changed the password in .mythtv/mysql.txt to mythtv instead of that Ubuntu-generated one... and ran mythbackend and it logs into the DB....

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hendrixski:

seriously, wtf

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mzb_d800:

sounds like you haven't followed the instructions

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hendrixski:

but now it's another error message : No setting found for this machine's BackendServerIP.

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hendrixski:

Please run setup on this machine and modify the first page

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hendrixski:

of the general settings.

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hendrixski:

I already ran mythtv-setup

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mzb_d800:

set the same password everywhere ... make your life simpler

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hendrixski:

mzb_d800, it seems that the instructions on mythtv.org and the actual Ubuntu-mythtv setup-up are a *little* out of synch

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mzb_d800:

I can't speak for the ubuntu instructions

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Sonicadvance1:

neither can I >_><_<

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mzb_d800:

although I do have one ubuntu machine with a combined frontend + slave backend, it's installed from svn ... so a different story altogether

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mzb_d800:

but I *would* say that you follow one *or* the other ... not both

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mzb_d800:

;)

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** hendrixski should have just installed from backend **

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hendrixski:

the Ubuntu package seems to do a lot of stuff for you that just screw things up

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am_dragon:

Ubuntu is differnt from most of what's on the wiki

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am_dragon:

more like moves things around.

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hendrixski:

am_dragon, I just found that out

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hendrixski:

:-(

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am_dragon:

if you know where to look it's all there.

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hendrixski:

And where should I know to look?

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am_dragon:

not that I don't have problems too.

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am_dragon:

ubuntuforums? sorry bad joke

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** hendrixski assumed this would be a decent place to look **

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am_dragon:

honestly I just set my mythbox up this weekend and mythbuntu and left everything pretty much at the default and it ran fine

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am_dragon:

except for no sound on the NTSC side of my tuner, and my Xserver won't go to 1280x720 unless I plug in a monitor to trick it.

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hendrixski:

yeah, I'm setting this up on feisty again.... the gutsy upgrade didn't go so well... so I'll have to wait for those mythbuntu tools

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am_dragon:

I did the upgrade from breezy to fiesty, that was an ugly mess.

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am_dragon:

I just reinstalled.

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am_dragon:

I don't think I'll try an upgrade again for a while.

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mzb_d800:

am_dragon: ignoreEDID ?

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hendrixski:

am_dragon, I hear ya... I did both the upgrade and the regular install of gutsy... same problem with my graphic card driver

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mzb_d800:

s/ Option "UseEdidDpi" "false"

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mzb_d800:

Option "ModeValidation" "NoMaxPClkCheck"

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am_dragon:

what's that 2nd one do?

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hendrixski:

ah... sweet... according to google the way to fix my second error message was to re-run mythtv-setup.... seems to be doing the trick. :-)

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hendrixski:

BOOYA! got it.

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hendrixski:

damn... that is just one royal pain in the butt... why on earth everything is shifted around like that makes no sense... just makes it harder to install

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mzb_d800:

hendrixski: funny, that's what the error msg told you to do in the first place ;P

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am_dragon:

everyother file in linux has a manpage but xorg.conf

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mzb_d800:

am_dragon: running wide LCD on nvidia?

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mzb_d800:

google is a wonderful invention, when you learn how to use it ;)

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hendrixski:

mzb_d800, the error message was 5 BILLION pages of SQL jiberish... that didn't tell me dick

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mikeones:

am_dragon: my distro has a man page for xorg.conf

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Sonicadvance1:

wait a minute

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Sonicadvance1:

mode validation

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Sonicadvance1:

wtf does that do?

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Sonicadvance1:

I don't have that in my x.conf file

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Sonicadvance1:

um

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Sonicadvance1:

Xorg.conf*

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mzb_d800:

google!

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am_dragon:

mike – gentoo?

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hendrixski:

goodnight

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Sonicadvance1:

NO GOOGLE! D:

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mzb_d800:

I have a BenQ FP222W on nvidia

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hendrixski:

and thanks for helping me through my... ranting

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mikeones:

am_dragon: sidux

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Sonicadvance1:

I just wanna know what the variable does :P

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termitor:

hello , have this problem : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41897/ the result it's full of pixel color bazaar

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termitor:

gutsy and nvidia drivers

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mzb_d800:

I think it allows (me) to run at a large | unsupported resolution

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Sonicadvance1:

that's silly

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Sonicadvance1:

I'm running at 1680x1050

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mzb_d800:

but as I say, google it

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Sonicadvance1:

wtf is your resolution?

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mzb_d800:

"1680x1050"

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mzb_d800:

right, well don't take my word for it, I asked you not to

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mzb_d800:

I told you the two pieces of magic that made mine work (apart from the modeline)

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termitor:

mzb_d800: great 16:10 is for full geek like me !

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Sonicadvance1:

:P

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mzb_d800:

so take it or leave it ;P

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Sedorox:

I have a Acer 22" wide, running at 1680x1050, on a Nvidia 7900GS.. works fine

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Sonicadvance1:

Although, I modified my xorg file manually to set up my resolution

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Sedorox:

tho had some issues

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Sonicadvance1:

my 7900GS is better than yours Sedorox! D:<

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Sedorox:

lol

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mzb_d800:

the only other thing I did was change to DisplaySize for accurate DPI

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am_dragon:

Never heard of Sidux before ---debian based, I'd have half a clue how to use it.

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Sonicadvance1:

My Video card was stock overclocked

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Sonicadvance1:

woo XFX :D

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am_dragon:

I have a front projector that is 720p and a 109" screen

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Sonicadvance1:

hehe

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Sonicadvance1:

I want a 15" Laptop monitor with a 1920x1200 resolution

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mzb_d800:

I can see that my 35yo 59cm PAL TV is a long way behind the times ;)

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Sonicadvance1:

Dang, I thought my 18 yo TV was old

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termitor:

'NV17 Video Texture' is for 7600gs or it's bug ?

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mzb_d800:

(I have a spare, too;)

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mzb_d800:

the output to the 59cm is also cloned to a 20" CRT (fcc id = 1991;)

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Sonicadvance1:

I wonder if the reason why my TV tuner has the high pitched noise is because I'm using NTSC, not ATSC

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Sonicadvance1:

but, It's supposed to support NTSC >_>

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termitor:

nobody ?

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termitor:

my xv don't work why mythtv but mplayer and vlc working good

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** Sonicadvance1 stabs xv for termitor **

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am_dragon:

ok, gonna go try the new xorg.conf and I just installed the latest alsa too see if that fixed my audio problems.

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termitor:

Sonicadvance1: and my error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41897/

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termitor:

Sonicadvance1: my xvinfo http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41898/

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termitor:

hello ?

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termitor:

i'm lagging

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Sonicadvance1:

goo

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Sonicadvance1:

d

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termitor:

Sonicadvance1: so what is the problem ?

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Sonicadvance1:

I dunno, I wasn't really paying attention

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Sonicadvance1:

Sorta spacing off since no one knows how to fix my current problem :P

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am_dragon:

640x480

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venger:

termitor,i was having problems with xv on mplayer and xine tonight and had to bounce Xorg before it would ever work

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mzb_d800:

Sonicadvance1: checked interrupts? (long shot)

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termitor:

venger: mplayer xine work fine

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ShockValue:

i have a hd3000 and a 2.6.22 kernel.. im trying to find the right things to compile into the kernel, but most of the documentation is for 2.6.12 or less, and the options are quite different

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ShockValue:

anyone have a recent doc on what i would need someplace?

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termitor:

venger oki , gutsy too ?

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ShockValue:

xris: sounds familiar

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ShockValue:

im gonna try and get this hd3k card to work and see what channels i can get on it

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crazy_bus:

I did scan /usr/share/doc/dvb-utils/examples/scan/dvb-t/au-Brisbane . But I live far away from there. All of the scans failed. What should I do?

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mzb_d800:

crazy_bus: manually scan each transport for your area, like I told you previously

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mzb_d800:

if you have an STB you can probably read the transport frequencies off it ... alternatively, use google to find out what is being broadcast in your area

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mzb_d800:

ensure that you have a *good* (digital) aerial

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mzb_d800:

http://www.marcusbrutus.soho.on.net/blog/?p=79

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mzb_d800:

(gives me 99% on a bad day;)

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crazy_bus:

how do I manually scan each transport for your area? I found out what stations, but I don't know how to convert that to the program

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am_dragon:

ok I give up... maybe the 4th reload will work.

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am_dragon:

none of the x settings I've tried work for my projector.

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am_dragon:

if I plugin a monitor and restart x boom 1280x720 even if it's not a valid mode for the monitor.

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crazy_bus:

I read this. ABC VHF 8 191.625 MHz What would I do next?

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crazy_bus:

but this page says different http://www2b.abc.net.au/reception/frequencyfi . . . amp;presdir=

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lupin_sansei:

how can I add my own Shoutcast URL to mythstream?

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am_dragon:

later

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am_dragon:

quit

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crazy_bus:

I just tried w_scan But got the error ERROR: Sorry – i couldn't get any working frequency/transponder Nothing to scan!! What have I done wrong?

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crazy_bus:

mzb_d800: you got suggestions on how to use w_scan or use the numbers I found off google?

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mzb_d800:

go to the channel setup|scan page in mythtv-setup

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mzb_d800:

enter the transport frequency, etc (4 different settings?) on the left hand side

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mzb_d800:

(ie. change scan type from full scan to err.. transport scan (or similar))

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mzb_d800:

easiest to start with might be something like ABC

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crazy_bus:

I'm at the moment trying to get it working before I install mythtv

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mzb_d800:

I don't know how to scan a specific transport using command line

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mzb_d800:

check the docs

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crazy_bus:

what about kaffeine

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mzb_d800:

what about it? :)

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mzb_d800:

I don't use KDE as a general rule

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termitor:

for tnt full hd x264 what it the good chosse cpu and graphic card ?

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mzb_d800:

I've heard 3GHz min, but I wouldn't know

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crazy_bus:

it's installed by default. And I wanted to make sure it worked on that before I tried mythtv. It's got a channel editor. But lots of options like Audio PIDs which I don't know what to do with

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termitor:

tnt it french for dvb-t no in france have fullhd tnt x264 experentation , so what cpu en graphic card for it work good ?

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mzb_d800:

crazy_bus: I'd suggest you look at the docs for the command line tools (scan et al) [ensure dvb-utils installed?], docs for mythtv re dvb tuning, and docs for kaffeine

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mzb_d800:

that should be enough info to get used (at least) used to the idea ;)

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mzb_d800:

have another tuner (eg. STB) is handy for checking|debugging

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mzb_d800:

s/have/having

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crazy_bus:

I've tried to read all the scan docs. But I don't have another tuner

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mzb_d800:

then goo...gooo...gooogle ;) (sorry ... I've been there ... and still there in a lot of respects)

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mzb_d800:

eg. I can scan ABC & SBS, but can't tune to it (atm)

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mzb_d800:

lot's of silly mistakes along the way, I guess :)

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mzb_d800:

s/lot's/lots

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mzb_d800:

I'm also dealing with ancient hardware, and hacksawed equipment, which doesn't help

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crazy_bus:

this is also a quite old tuner. I got it because I thought it would work with linux better

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mzb_d800:

I ended up getting an external Kworld DVB-T usb2 tuner for $20 on eBay ;)

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mzb_d800:

few issues, but works

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crazy_bus:

I would have got a usb one, but was told that they cut out a lot

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mzb_d800:

had to cut a usb2 card in half to fit the SFF box, though ;)

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mzb_d800:

yeah, has various problems but seems ok as long as you don't "push it too hard"

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mzb_d800:

ie. change channels too fast on LiveTV

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mzb_d800:

recording is brilliant

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mzb_d800:

and for $20 I can't complain

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mzb_d800:

excellent result for the price ... means we can watch digital TV in the bedroom :)

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mzb_d800:

(live or otherwise)

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crazy_bus:

sounds great for the price

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mzb_d800:

I've now (at least) got the whole system to the stage where it's starting to affect the way I do things & organise my time

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crazy_bus:

I still can't find out how to change a au-Newcastle file for example. Even on google. What does T 219500000 7MHz 3/4 NONE QAM64 8k 1/16 NONE mean and how do I insert my own info there?

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mzb_d800:

eg. had a 2hr bath last night, while Numb3rs was recording

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mzb_d800:

transport,bandwidth, err ... forget the rest

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mzb_d800:

I'd suggest you try google for: frequency bandwidth QAM <your-area"

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mzb_d800:

eg: frequency MHz QAM Hobart ABC

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mzb_d800:

http://www.dtvforum.info/lofiversion/index.php/t52.html

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crazy_bus:

still can't find it. All I can find is this http://www.dtvforum.info/index.php?showtopic= . . . #entry818161 but their in a different format

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mzb_d800:

http://www.dba.org.au/index.asp?sectionID=120

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mzb_d800:

http://www.dba.org.au/index.asp?sectionID=133

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crazy_bus:

but how do I put those numbers into a file?

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mzb_d800:

work out what they mean

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mzb_d800:

then work out what *you* need to tune

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mzb_d800:

then add|substitute

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mzb_d800:

I can't believe that you're the first in your area

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mzb_d800:

try a few different things in google

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mzb_d800:

(and I mean put a good hour into it, not 5 mins)

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mzb_d800:

until you get the result you're looking for

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mzb_d800:

a hit in google might just be the start of a whole chain of info, so make sure you look at it ;)

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mzb_d800:

http://www.jaycarelectronics.com/images_uploaded/austtv.pdf

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mzb_d800:

you will have to translate all of that into what's available in your area

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mzb_d800:

I really hope you're using a *good* external aerial

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mzb_d800:

you probably also want to know if you're using UHF or VHF frequencies ... etc

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mzb_d800:

do some research, keep reading, and eventually you'll know enough to know that you need to know more ;)

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crazy_bus:

is configuring this involved in windows?

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mzb_d800:

(but you'll have a better idea on how to find it by that stage)

[06:57:10]

mzb_d800:

don't use M$, can't tell you

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mzb_d800:

anyway, have to heat up BBQ before woman gets knickers in twist

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mzb_d800:

have fun & good luck

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crazy_bus:

how good of an aerial do you need to detect even a fuzzy signal?

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crazy_bus:

bye

[06:58:07]

mzb_d800:

*good*

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mzb_d800:

saw my link?

[06:58:28]

mzb_d800:

(my wooden aerial)

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mzb_d800:

http://www.marcusbrutus.soho.on.net/blog/?p=79

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crazy_bus:

I just want to know if the card works. I might try your ariral later

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mzb_d800:

you're wasting your time on a pigtail

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mzb_d800:

no wonder you're having trouble scanning ;P

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crazy_bus:

pigtail?

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mzb_d800:

err

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mzb_d800:

stub antenna, I mean

[07:00:35]

mzb_d800:

(or rabbit ears)

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crazy_bus:

It's connected to the antenna on the roof

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mzb_d800:

should be enough, if it's a reasonable one

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mzb_d800:

(used to work for Jaycar, so I've got a fair idea of some the crap available)

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mzb_d800:

hence the reason I built my own ... great signal, wind proof and most importantly ... *BIRD PROOF* ;))

[07:02:20]

mzb_d800:

anyway, must go before she realises I'm running late

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Hoxzer:

What would be best way to setup correct colors for XV I have tried playing color bars but I wonder if there is a better way

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ikke:

&away

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tzanger:

select value,data from settings where value='DBSchemaVer';

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tzanger:

if that returns an empty set, is that a bad thing?

[10:46:06]

tzanger:

I think mysql just ate itself here

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directhex|work:

omnomnom

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tzanger:

haha

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tzanger:

wtf

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tzanger:

it was working fine for over a year

[10:49:20]

tzanger:

haven't changed anything, then it starts complaining about unable to run queries

[10:49:46]

tzanger:

a couple of the bigger tables were screwey, fixed them, now critical parts of the settings table went missing

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tzanger:

fucking mysql

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tzanger:

hasn't changed in the 10+ years since I first decided to drop it for anything non-critical

[10:53:28]

tzanger:

ok what the hell

[10:54:01]

tzanger:

select value,data,hostname from settings where value='BackendServerIP' and where value like '%BackendServerIP%' return two completely different results

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tzanger:

yet the only value shown is 'BackendServerIP'

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tzanger:

I get 1 result for value= and 4 results for value like

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adante:

any aussies around using shepherd

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mzb_d800:

adante: yes

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mzb_d800:

is there any way to save a manual zoom so that it's applied by default?

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adante:

mzb_d800: not on a per channel basis i don't think

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mzb_d800:

no

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mzb_d800:

doesn't need to be per channel

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adante:

oh manual zoom, not sure sorry

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mzb_d800:

I only want "restored zoom" for the fill=none mode (on 4:3 shows, not wide)

[11:46:42]

adante:

mzb_d800: just trying to run mythfilldatabase on the output.xmltv, looks lik there's a lot of malformed recordsthere

[11:46:59]

adante:

just wondering if you had experienced the same

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mzb_d800:

malformed?

[11:47:29]

adante:

oh hm maybe not

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mzb_d800:

?

[11:47:53]

adante:

just some really wierd behaviour

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adante:

you know how 7 broadcasts like 4 channels

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adante:

i tried assigning themall the same xmltvid

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adante:

when i run shepherd then mythfill, throws a stack of errors

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adante:

just removed the ids anyway and seems tobe ok

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mzb_d800:

no, I can't help

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mzb_d800:

:)

[11:48:57]

mzb_d800:

Tasmania

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mzb_d800:

not to say my two heads couldn't eventually work it out ... just that we don't have that many channels ;)

[11:51:06]

adante:

lol okay

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mzb_d800:

I've been having different problems with shepherd

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mzb_d800:

the first showed up as wrong times, and turned out to be a php5 misconfig on one (out of two) machines

[11:52:27]

mzb_d800:

the second is to do with one tuner being analogue, and the other digital

[11:53:02]

mzb_d800:

and the third is that mythfilldatabase doesn't seem to be working for me atm, but tv_grab_au does ... slow problem to solve ;)

[11:53:35]

adante:

ouch, yeah sounds hairy

[11:54:03]

mzb_d800:

heh ... I'm into the "easy" part ;)

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mzb_d800:

made this setup out of scrap. Overclocked machines, cards hacksawed in half .... has been quite an adventure ;)

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adante:

hm cards hacksawed in half trumps just about everything i think

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adante:

are things really that desparate in tassie? :]

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mzb_d800:

I was too tight to pay $30+post for a half-height USB2 card, so I bought a full-height for 15 (delivered) and cut it ;)

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mzb_d800:

does the job

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mzb_d800:

overcurrent warnings on the missing ports, but who cares ;)

[11:58:01]

mzb_d800:

(like an amputee screaming about the pain in his fingers;)

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adante:

haha nice, gotta be game to cut a card in half

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mzb_d800:

looked like a high-rise version of a half-height card in the pictures ;)

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mzb_d800:

not much behind the top two ports apart from a couple of surface-mount resistors and "lay-back" tracks to the internal port

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mzb_d800:

so I took the chance it wouldn't aaffect overall performance

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mzb_d800:

no way I was going to spend >$20 for a card to plug the dvb tuner into

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mzb_d800:

the tuner only cost me $20 delivered ;)

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mzb_d800:

bugger

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mzb_d800:

out of drive space

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mzb_d800:

hmm ... perhaps I should delete Bathurst ;)

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Sonicadvance1:

mzb_d800, how would I check interrupts?

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mzb_d800:

cat /proc/interrupts

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mzb_d800:

no idea if it would work

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directhex|work:

dog > cat

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mzb_d800:

;)

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directhex|work:

ii dog 1.7–8 Enhanced replacement for cat

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mzb_d800:

lol

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directhex|work:

try "dog --oog someinputfile"

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mzb_d800:

I'm just trying to diagnose a whine when recording from external usb ... which I think *might* be related to an interrupt issue ... Your question came at about the same time, so I suggested it

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mzb_d800:

s/--oog/--woof

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directhex|work:

dog: unrecognized option `--woof'

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directhex|work:

jms@osc-bigmac:~$ echo "the cake is a lie" | dog --oog

[12:42:04]

directhex|work:

CAKE LIE

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Sonicadvance1:

weird

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Sonicadvance1:

interrupts confuse me

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Sonicadvance1:

:P

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mzb_d800:

forget everything you learned about ISA-base systems (if you're old enough to remember;)

[12:43:12]

Sonicadvance1:

ha

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Sonicadvance1:

I'm not

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mzb_d800:

PCI-based systems use shared interrupts

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Sonicadvance1:

22: 117 23490 IO-APIC-fasteoi cx88[0], cx88[0], cx88[0]

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mzb_d800:

but iirc, there are some drivers that don't share well

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mzb_d800:

s/drivers/devices

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mzb_d800:

(or both)

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** directhex|work interrupts mzb_d800 **

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Sonicadvance1:

hehe

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directhex|work:

OBJECTION!

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mzb_d800:

objection noted

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mzb_d800:

;)

[12:44:51]

mzb_d800:

that was the ultra-condensed version ... what did I say wrong?

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mzb_d800:

directhex|work: or was that an objection to "age"-ism ? ;P

[12:47:17]

directhex|work:

just a general shouting of OBJECTION!

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mzb_d800:

aha

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mzb_d800:

well said

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directhex|work:

http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=2267918

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mzb_d800:

ahh

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mzb_d800:

I see your happy pills are starting to work again :)

[12:49:12]

mzb_d800:

Changed the dose or the colour? :))

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jarle:

Is there a quick way to delete all recordings of a show?

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mzb_d800:

rm -rf /

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jarle:

mzb_d800: not ALL shows :)

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mzb_d800:

:)

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mzb_d800:

sorry, no, don't have a short answer, just a short time

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directhex|work:

with clever SQL!

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jarle:

mzb_d800: luckily you did not put "sudo" in front of that :)

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mzb_d800:

I don't think you'd have been online long enough to complain ;P

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mzb_d800:

time for quick "security patrol" before bed ... have fun all

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mzb_d800:

gnite

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rooaus:

nite

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dr_lulz:

jarle: no need for sudo when using a rootshell ;P

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SiD3WiNDR:

sudo make a sandwich

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Yahooadam:

hey, i remember somone here giving me the piece of code to get the ip address of a domain name

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directhex|work:

nslookup?

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Yahooadam:

like if i put in google.co.uk, i would like to get out 85.21.421.214 (for eg)

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Yahooadam:

(btw thats just a random ip i made up)

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Yahooadam:

uh that could be it directhex :)

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jarle:

Yahooadam: hehe .421. would never exist :)

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Yahooadam:

lol true

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directhex|work:

jarle, you never played Uplink? :o

[13:07:14]

jarle:

directhex: no, what is that?

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Yahooadam:

a game

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jarle:

directhex: the game where you pretend to be a hacker?

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Yahooadam:

sound right to me

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Yahooadam:

so anyway, do u know how to do it directhex ?

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Yahooadam:

if i do nslookup google.co.uk i get a whole load of stuff out

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Yahooadam:

i just want the ip addr

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Yahooadam:

if i do nslookup google.co.uk | grep Address: i only get a few results :p

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jarle:

directhex: hehe, I'm looking at uplink screenshots now... .421. would definately be part of an IP range in that game :)

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Yahooadam:

only pr0 networks have .421 ip addresses :p

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jarle:

Will IPV6 allow higher values than .255. ?

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Yahooadam:

i think so, i believe IPv6 is hex

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Yahooadam:

2001:0db8:0000:0000:0000:0000:1428:57ab

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Yahooadam:

is an example of an IPv6 addr

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jarle:

so maybe we all can get static IPs some time in the future...

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jarle:

I'm wondering if I should set commercial flagging to start at the time of the recording start, would be core 2 duo cpu be able to handle that (on two inputs)?

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Pryon:

of more concern would be disk contention (IMHO)

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Yahooadam:

also it probably commflags faster then realtime

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Pryon:

definitely

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Yahooadam:

so you would run out of program to commflag

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Yahooadam:

interesting idea for the dev's though

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Yahooadam:

while the frames are in memory, why not commflag them

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jarle:

Yahooadam: this is already included in mythtv...

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jarle:

Yahooadam: I was just afraid to turn it on because it sait it required a high powered CPU...

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Yahooadam:

what core2duo cpu is it ?

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Yahooadam:

directhex|work – do u know about the nslookup thing? i reallly need to know how to do it :)

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jarle:

Yahooadam: E6750 2.67 Ghz 1333Mhz...

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Yahooadam:

its probably good enough

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Yahooadam:

are these SD recordings or HD ?

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jarle:

Yahooadam: so far only SD...

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Yahooadam:

i suspect your fine

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Yahooadam:

my 4200+ transcodes and commflags faster then it records

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jarle:

Yahooadam: I was just thinking it would be nice to be able to skip commecials if I start watching a show before it was finished recording...

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jarle:

Yahooadam: how do you see/check that?

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Yahooadam:

if i look in mythweb, its finished transcoding and commflagging a program before the next is in the queue

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Yahooadam:

does mythrename.pl get the directory to rename in from mythtv

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Yahooadam:

or does it do it to the current directory

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tank-man:

run the script from any directory

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Yahooadam:

yeah but a made a copy of all my recordings, and i want to mythrename them

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Yahooadam:

i want to leave the originals untouched

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tank-man:

the script has a switch to just make sym links and rename those

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tank-man:

i think

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Andycasss:

I cannot install mythstream, the "qmake mythstream.pro" doesnt give any result and when i use make it complains about missing dirs and files...

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Andycasss:

I have done the prefix thing, installed the required packs

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Andycasss:

Anyone?

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Yahooadam:

hmmm deleting 500gb of tv takes a while

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Yahooadam:

is anyone able to help me with this nslookup thing

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Yahooadam:

i really need the code very soon

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jarle:

Yahooadam: isn't "nslookup vg.no" doing the trick?

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jarle:

Yahooadam: or you only need some help parsing the output for use in a script or something?

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opello:

or do you have 'host'

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Andycasss:

should "qmake mythstream.pro" give me some kind of feedback too or something? Cos it doesnt

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Andycasss:

And that would maybe explain the errors for make command

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Yahooadam:

jarle opello, i just need to get the IP of a Domain, however i do that, it really doesnt matter

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jarle:

opello: yeah, output from host is probably easier to use in a script..

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opello:

i think so

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Yahooadam:

aslong as i can put it into a bash variable ;)

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opello:

do you have `host`?

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jarle:

Yahooadam: what are you doing with the IP, when you get it?

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Yahooadam:

Usage: Host

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Yahooadam:

i guess so

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Yahooadam:

comparing it to another

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Yahooadam:

basic sudeo code, if my IP doesnt equal my dynamic IP, then update it

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fryfrog:

you use that weird dyn dns service, right?

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jarle:

Yahooadam: the use host, and then do some tricks with "awk" to get only the IP...

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jarle:

(I'm no awk guru...)

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opello:

$ host google.com | sed -nr 's/.*has address ([0–9.]+)$/\1/gp' | head -n 1

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jarle:

...or sed :)

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opello:

or use awk, whatever

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opello:

'{print $4}'

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Yahooadam:

thanks opello :)

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opello:

i thought the sed route gave me grep free :)

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Yahooadam:

it works

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Yahooadam:

so who cares :p

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opello:

well, now you depend on host, sed, and head

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opello:

so ... you might :)

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jarle:

opello: It is always interesting watching linux users trying to make an sed/awk expression as small ass possible :)

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jarle:

small as... :)

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opello:

heh

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opello:

i didn't think mine was extra verbose :) but i don't know if `host` is localized, so that could break

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jarle:

opello: but it will only report ONE IP I think, so one could search for a number in the from of an IP...

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opello:

host will also return all the round robins

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opello:

thus the head at the end, i wasn't sure how to do an exit in sed

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opello:

$ host google.com | sed -nr 's/.*has address ([0–9.]+)$/\1/gp;q'

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opello:

seems to work :)

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opello:

it also kicks out mx records

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Yahooadam:

well i assume all that is installed by default

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jarle:

opello: but they do not consist of only numbers..

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Yahooadam:

and its not like i mess with the machine that will run the script

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Yahooadam:

so meh :p

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opello:

jarle: but they *could*

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jarle:

opello: oki :)

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opello:

convention says no, but ... users don't always follow conventions :)

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jarle:

Yahooadam: opello will probably setup a site for bugreports, so the users of the script can post their bug reports :)

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opello:

lol

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jarle:

it is easier solving one bug at a time than to think of all eventualities :)

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Yahooadam:

lol

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tank-man:

only if you are human

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opello:

that's certainly true, but if you're parsing the output of a command that you can see all of the output of, there's no reason to make it unnecessarily vague :/

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opello:

just tried to make my suggestion as resistent to failure as possible :)

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jarle:

"It is only human to err, but for a total breakdown you need a computer" – famous words

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Yahooadam:

now to make that a cron job :)

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jarle:

Yahooadam: just put the script in /etc/cron.hourly/ if running once every hour is sufficient...

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jarle:

Yahooadam: or "man cron"

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Yahooadam:

want it to run even 5 minuites

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Yahooadam:

i could make it run every 5 seconds

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Yahooadam:

but its a bit pointless

[14:09:17]

Yahooadam:

because my script says – "is my current IP equal to the IP of the domain, if not, update it"

[14:09:24]

Yahooadam:

it should be quite friendly on their servers

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jarle:

then /etc/crontab is where you need to go...

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Yahooadam:

while allowing me to run it very frequently

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Andycasss:

I cannot install mythstream, the "qmake mythstream.pro" doesnt give any result and when i use make it complains about missing dirs and files...

[14:09:38]

Yahooadam:

yeah, crontab -e ftw :)

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Andycasss:

I have done the prefix thing, installed the required packs

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Andycasss:

None of you have ever installed mythstream? :(

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tank-man:

nope

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tank-man:

did you look at the readme?

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Yahooadam:

righty ho

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Yahooadam:

all done :)

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Andycasss:

Tank man, yes i have checked readme and install instructions...

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Andycasss:

I have no idea if the qmake command actually works, and dont know how to check it

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rooaus:

Andycasss: qmake wont output anything by default, but it should generate the "Makefile".

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Yahooadam:

laters all, thanks for your help :)

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Andycasss:

It does create some make files.. So i guess it works..

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Andycasss:

So i guess that worked..

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tank-man:

whats the output from "make" ?

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tank-man:

paste it somewhere

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Andycasss:

Give me a minute

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Andycasss:

here: http://pastebin.ca/747978

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Andycasss:

bah, I posted wrong log, ill edit it

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Andycasss:

ok, here – http://pastebin.ca/747981

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rooaus:

how have you installed myth? from packages or source?

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tank-man:

Andycasss, do you also have the sources for mythtv?

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Andycasss:

from packages

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Andycasss:

I belive i dont..

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tank-man:

i think you might need them

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tank-man:

is there a package for mythstream?

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Andycasss:

Where should i put it

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rooaus:

did you install the -dev packages as well, probably something like libmyth-dev or similar

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Andycasss:

Yes, i installed them

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Andycasss:

Where should i place the source? Or should i recompile or something?

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rooaus:

Andycasss: The dev headers need to match the installed version of mythtv. What distro you using?

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Andycasss:

ubuntu 7.10

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rooaus:

and did you install from the standard repo or do the mythbuntu thing?

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Andycasss:

standard repo

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Th3On3:

hello

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Th3On3:

what open source projects to build a media support with flv encoding capabilities ?

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Th3On3:

media server*

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rooaus:

Andycasss: what is the output of "dpkg --get-selections | grep myth"

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Andycasss:

sec, ill pastebin it

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Andycasss:

http://pastebin.ca/747996

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rooaus:

ah, no "libmyth-dev". This package includes the stuff needed to build myth related apps. try "sudo apt-get install libmyth-dev"

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Andycasss:

oops :), ill install it

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Andycasss:

installed.

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rooaus:

it isn't installed by default as you only need it for compiling and not for the precompiled package.

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Andycasss:

It seems to have done its magic, the make command doesnt give me errors anymore, but there are some texts like: http://pastebin.ca/748005

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Andycasss:

Is this normal?

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tank-man:

normal

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Andycasss:

:)

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tank-man:

unless you see an "ERROR" near the last few lines

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tank-man:

warnings are ok

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Andycasss:

Its still compiling.. :P

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rooaus:

goodluck, time for sleep here.

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tank-man:

sleep well

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Andycasss:

Thank you rooaus and bye

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rooaus:

cheers

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johnadsfsdfdf:

does anyone have experience with svideo on an ati radeon 9200se

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mkrufky:

johnadsfsdfdf: i dont have experience, but i heard that it doesnt play nice unless you're using fglrx... HOWEVER:

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mkrufky:

i have a radeon 9100IGP, and if you boot with vga NEVER connected, and only connected to svideo, then the open source ati / radeon drivers work with all the display on svideo, and i thing vga is turned off

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mkrufky:

(i never tried fglrx)

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johnadsfsdfdf:

mkrufky: i setup the machine, but with vga, then i power down, plug in svideo and it doesnt boot

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johnadsfsdfdf:

to a gui

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mkrufky:

hmm, worked for me

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johnadsfsdfdf:

did you setup the machine on svideo?

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mkrufky:

you might have to put some options in xorg.conf

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mkrufky:

and no, i set it up using vga

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johnadsfsdfdf:

yeah, its been so long since i fiddled with svideo

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johnadsfsdfdf:

i mean xorg

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mkrufky:

i think i was using the "radeon" driver ... NOT the ati driver

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mkrufky:

(or vice versa, i dont recall)

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johnadsfsdfdf:

hmm

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mkrufky:

and the system is powered down @ home, so i cant check from here

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johnadsfsdfdf:

i cant remember which im using, but ill try the other

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johnadsfsdfdf:

did you get opengl working on svideo?

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mkrufky:

opengl doesnt work, period.

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mkrufky:

but this was with older drivers

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mkrufky:

maybe support has since been added, i dunno

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johnadsfsdfdf:

hmm, i managed to get opengl working on vga with the open source drivers

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mkrufky:

that particular machine is my devbox — i dont care about 3d / mpeg decoding acceleration on that box

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johnadsfsdfdf:

i think im using the radeon driver

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johnadsfsdfdf:

i see, yeah im trying to use it as my myth media center

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johnadsfsdfdf:

but i cant connect it to anything but my 17" crt

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johnadsfsdfdf:

thanks for the hlep though

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mkrufky:

i actually just stuck with ati / radeon on that machine so that the onboard video would play nice with the AGP card so that i can use 3 monitors & shared videoram

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mkrufky:

i highly recommend nvidia cards for mythtv playback machines

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mkrufky:

er, "frontend" machines, that is

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Timelord_:

Hi. I have a Nova-TD stick which I can get working ok using cat > file. In MythTv i can scan for channels, but i can't watch live TV as it says the tuner is unavailable. Any ideas??

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Ryushin:

So I saw some stuff in the developer list saying there was a fmpeg sync. Does this mean the latest svn has multithreaded playback now?

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janneg:

Ryushin: no, the patch is not applied

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Ryushin:

Bummer.

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ben2:

hi, my mythtv frontend connects to the database but cant connect to the backend, it has no firewall

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ben2:

does anyone have any idea why

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termitor:

where find xvmc for nvidia ?

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iamlindoro:

termitor, http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/XvMC

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iamlindoro:

ben2, anyone here would probably need more diagnostic information, ie frontend and backend logs

[17:26:28]

ben2:

mythtv: Could not connect to socket

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ben2:

mythtv: connection refused

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iamlindoro:

ben2, is this something that previously worked and spontaneously stopped, or a new install?

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iamlindoro:

ps, that is not the diagnostic information I am looking for... you need to pastebin the output of both the frontend and backend logs for the whole session to see if anything is suspect

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ben2:

its a new install, but it has been working

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ben2:

http://pastebin.com/m4b415331

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ben2:

here is the log

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ben2:

backend works fine

[17:28:48]

ben2:

mysql works fine

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ben2:

well actually im not sure about backend working fine

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iamlindoro:

It's trying to connect to your backend at localhost

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ben2:

yes

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iamlindoro:

Are both on same machine?

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ben2:

yes

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ben2:

it will be the slave backend when im finshed

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iamlindoro:

ps aux |grep mythbackend

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ben2:

but for now i just want it all on one

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ben2:

because i dont want my database / main backend messed up

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iamlindoro:

Also, how did you install these? Any chance one is from source and the other is from packages?

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iamlindoro:

backend/frontend, that is

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iamlindoro:

also, distro and myth version, pls

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ben2:

it was a apt-get install

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iamlindoro:

both back and frontend? You didn't install eitehr from source?

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ben2:

on ubuntu 7.10

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iamlindoro:

did you ps aux |grep mythbackend?

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ben2:

yes

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iamlindoro:

and?

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ben2:

seems fine

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iamlindoro:

then killall mythbackend then start it again mythbackend -d and post output from start to when you try to connect

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ben2:

ok

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iamlindoro:

Also, pastebin your ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt (edit out your password, of course)

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ben2:

ok

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ben2:

i normally do /etc/init.d/mthtv-backend start

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ben2:

ect

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ben2:

so how do i do -d

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iamlindoro:

open a terminal

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iamlindoro:

mythbackend -d

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ben2:

http://pastebin.com/d149e5b96

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ben2:

it just says command not found

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iamlindoro:

erm, that's strange... should be in your path, unless 7.10 changes something anew... which is possible... you can try a locate mythbackend and see if you can find it... I presume it would be in /usr/bin for you

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iamlindoro:

you can also try /usr/bin/mythbackend -d

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siXy:

ben2: are you root?

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ben2:

ill try that

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ben2:

umm sudo

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iamlindoro:

sixy: I don't know for sure, but thought the ubuntu packages allowed the myth user to run mythbackend

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ben2:

what iamlindoro worke

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syle2:

people stil use mythtv if so for what?

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ben2:

tv

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syle2:

i haven;t seen a thing change in last 3 years

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ben2:

dvds

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iamlindoro:

trollllll

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siXy:

iamlindoro: no idea bout that. but normally if stuff isnt in path when you expect it to be, its because your particular distro has decided that only root should have that in path

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syle2:

yeah i use to like the dvd stuff, but now with fta receivers my mythbox sits there doing nothing

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iamlindoro:

heh, probably... I dunno what they did with the gutsy packages, but I'm sure we'll learn in the coming months :)

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ben2:

hmmm, the frontend is saying cant connect to master backend now

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ben2:

since i started that mythbackend -d

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iamlindoro:

pastebin it

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iamlindoro:

sounds like you may have made a mistake in step 1 of mythtv-setup

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iamlindoro:

that is, pastebin the mythbackend -d output

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ben2:

http://pastebin.com/m6b6bf84c

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siXy:

ben2: become root and try again.

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ben2:

k

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ben2:

http://pastebin.com/m7a533bac

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siXy:

that looks better. can you connect now?

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iamlindoro:

just for fun, now that you have mythbackend -d running, do a mythfrontend

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iamlindoro:

ha

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ben2:

yer i did that

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iamlindoro:

any luck?

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ben2:

yer it connects now

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ben2:

but watch tv isnt working

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iamlindoro:

What does the terminal say when you try?

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siXy:

well maybe you havent set up any tuner cards?

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ben2:

i have

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iamlindoro:

What about your recording dir?

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iamlindoro:

Does it exist/have proper permisssions?

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iamlindoro:

just try to watch TV and post the terminal output

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siXy:

iamlindoro: paste the output when you try to watch

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ben2:

http://pastebin.com/m4d0d8bd2

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ben2:

ok

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siXy:

uh ben2 eve. and

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ben2:

http://pastebin.com/m4d0d8bd2

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siXy:

"TV: Attempting to change from None to None"

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iamlindoro:

None to none... haven't seen that but I'd assume your Tuners are screwy

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siXy:

that looks like a tunercard setup issue to me

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ben2:

2007-10–24 18:52:25.444 Connecting to backend server: 192.168.0.13:6543 (try 1 of 5)

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ben2:

whats that about

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siXy:

what tuner(s) are you using

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siXy:

ben2: that means exactly what it says.

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ben2:

im using, wait for it

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ben2:

nova-td stick

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ben2:

but it does work

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siXy:

oh :) i know virtually nothing about usb tuners

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iamlindoro:

What did you set it up as in mythtv-setup? What type of card, etc.

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iamlindoro:

Did you associate a listings source, scan for channels, etc? Did you set up a recordings directory w/ proper permissions?

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ben2:

scan for channels got all the correct channels

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ben2:

its a dVB DTV capture card (v3.x0

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iamlindoro:

Sounds right so far

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iamlindoro:

and your recordings directory?

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iamlindoro:

Does it exist/have proper permissions?

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ben2:

/var/lib/mythtv/recordings

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siXy:

if hes running as root that shouldnt be the issue

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iamlindoro:

true... although it still needs to *exist* :)

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ben2:

it does

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ben2:

and its 777

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[miles]:

evening

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ben2:

775 actually

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siXy:

iamlindoro: true :) although most installs create it automagically now i think. (well fedora one does anyway)

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ben2:

yer the ubuntu ones did also

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iamlindoro:

Whelp, I guess you could kill mythbackend, delete all capture cards and sources and start from scratch

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ben2:

done that many many many times

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siXy:

ben2: whats the starting channel set to in mythtv-setup

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iamlindoro:

and then sudo /usr/bin/mythbackend -d and see what happens

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ben2:

1

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iamlindoro:

Does 1 exist?

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ben2:

channel 1 yes

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siXy:

also run mythtv-setup as root now, and check tuner cards are still there

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iamlindoro:

ben2, you couldn't even connect to the backend bfore, so what you did before is sorta irrelevant

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ben2:

err i could try deleted and readding with -d

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[miles]:

guys I've got latest mythtv installed, with a dvb-s (Sky Star 2)... the sat dish has 3 x LNB's on a switch... I've imported all the channels, however seems when using the frontend and I change from one lnb to other, it does not change... anyone experienced this please?

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ben2:

errr, that was because i wasn't root

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ben2:

which was a bit dumb

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siXy:

[miles]: how is the mythbox connected to the switch?

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iamlindoro:

bn2, and make sure to kill mythbackend before sudo'ing mythtv-setup

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ben2:

i have been doing that

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[miles]:

siXy, I mean an LNB switch, on the dish

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iamlindoro:

OK, well all the same, I would, as sixy suggested, do all the steps from scratch as root just to be sure

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iamlindoro:

meaning, remove your capture cards while running mythtv-setup as root, set up from scratch, run mythbackend as root, and then see whre we're at

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siXy:

[miles]: ah.. does sheduling recordings on different lnb's work? is it just livetv that fails?

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[miles]:

http://www.sat-sales.com/prodimages/dmsi_diseqc_4x1.jpg

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[miles]:

sort of like that

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ben2:

i did that iamlindoro but it just says stopping mythv- server

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ben2:

and the restarting mythtv server

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[miles]:

siXy, ain't tried recording... atm , only interested in live tv

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ben2:

*then

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[miles]:

I registered the fact I have the 3 x lnbs in the setup

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iamlindoro:

ben2, I don't know what you're trying to do, what command line are you running?

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siXy:

[miles]: try it – live tv can be a bit flaky and it could isolate the problem

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[miles]:

ok, siXy one sec

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[miles]:

btw, kaffeine has worked 100% for months... but I'd love to swap to myth

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ben2:

mythv-setup

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ben2:

brb just got dinner

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siXy:

ben2: run: "sudo su -" then "killall mythbackend; mythtv-setup"

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iamlindoro:

ben2, here's what I want you to do: sudo killall mythbackend, sudo mythtv-setup

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iamlindoro:

ha

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iamlindoro:

jinx

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siXy:

:D

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[miles]:

siXy, im try live tv and logging all ... then I'll try the record cos I have no idea how to do record yet

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[miles]:

seems it can't lock

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[miles]:

i've made so many alterations, I'm wondering if to drop the whole db , and start again from scratch

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gpd:

I'm getting screensaver blanking when running as mythtv user – any idea where to change?

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fryfrog:

xset s off && xset -dpms

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fryfrog:

i have that in my script that fires up mythfrontend

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stuarta:

set fire to the gnome screensaver

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gpd:

ok thanks – will look for the script

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iamlindoro:

gpd, what distro you on?

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gpd:

just upgraded to gutsy from feisty – before no sign of the problem

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iamlindoro:

In System Prferences ther is a Screen Saver app

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gpd:

so you suggest that i login as mythtv user?

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iamlindoro:

Thre's a check box on the bottom to deactivate the screen saver

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iamlindoro:

I suggest you log in as whoever you intend to run mythtv as

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gpd:

mythfrontend runs from gdm and mythtv user logs in

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iamlindoro:

there you go, as that user then

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gpd:

ok . will wander off and try to find the password

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_DustyBin:

if your running mythtv with lots of myth front ends in a house all running full HD video, would one need a 100/1000 network?

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iamlindoro:

Well, 100 probably

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_DustyBin:

most NICs are 10/100

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fryfrog:

HD is like 19mbit

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fryfrog:

max

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iamlindoro:

1000 not essntial, it's not THAT much bandwidth... but it helps

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_DustyBin:

i was wondering should i upgrade my LAN to 1000

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fryfrog:

so in *theory* you could get 4–5 HD streams over 100mbit switched

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_DustyBin:

how many on a 1000mbit ?

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fryfrog:

_DustyBin: all my systems had 10/100/1000 built in NIC, so "upgrade" for me was as simple as buying a switch.

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stuarta:

however gig cards aren't too expensive these days.

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fryfrog:

I only see about 300mbit from my 1000mbit network, so maybe 3x that many?

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iamlindoro:

Dusty.. lots...

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_DustyBin:

as im in the process of buying a dedicated linux firewall box, i may as well upgrade my LAN

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fryfrog:

It is possible you could get away with putting 1000mbit in the *server* and 100mbit in all the front ends.

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fryfrog:

_DustyBin: you mean like a linksys WRT54G for $50 running dd-wrt? :)

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_DustyBin:

fryfrog: no the firewall is similar to this, but with 3x NICs: http://www.yawarra.com.au/hw-alix.php im going to install pfsense onto a CF card

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_DustyBin:

this is the exact motherboard: http://www.pcengines.ch/alix2c3.htm

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_DustyBin:

im just waiting for boards to hit the UK

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fryfrog:

cute little guy

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_DustyBin:

aye yes

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_DustyBin:

i can install a mini wireless pci card onto it too

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gpd:

nope – can't find the mythtv password to login as that user at gdm :(

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bbeattie:

I can't find the thread that talks about the new "Connect to backend" screen and why it pops up when a backend is running, anyone have an url to the post?

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gpd:

fryfrog: which script do you edit for xset?

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fryfrog:

oh, er sorry

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fryfrog:

I wrote a short script that runs every 1 minute on my front end

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fryfrog:

it looks for "mythfrontend" and if it doesn't find it, it starts it

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fryfrog:

so... i put that in there

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gpd:

hmm

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fryfrog:

you could make a simple script like "mythfrontend.sh" and put "#!/bin/sh\n xset s off \n xset -dpms \n mythfrontend --your options"

[18:59:03]

fryfrog:

the "\n" would be new lines :)

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fryfrog:

there is surely some "gnome" way of doing it too

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gpd:

presumably you are not supposed to login as mythtv

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fryfrog:

i do

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fryfrog:

what would be wrong with that?

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gpd:

that user was created by dpkg and has no shell

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fryfrog:

you can do what ever you really want

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gpd:

i just can't find the password

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fryfrog:

so reset it

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gpd:

they how will it login automatically... ?

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fryfrog:

same way

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gpd:

not sure how it does that anyway...

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fryfrog:

gdm

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gpd:

ok – changed pw for mythtv user – but have no shell so when login on console get nothing, when login from gdm get mythtv and no way to start a terminal etc :(

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gpd:

ok – found it – magic sudo -H -s!

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Kazan:

is there a way to list active xwindows display numbers?

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stuarta:

xdpyinfo, xdriinfo

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AndyCap:

Kazan: ls /tmp/.X11-unix/ ?

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Kazan:

and how does that translate to a ":0.0"-like number?

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stuarta:

that's not extensive enough

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Kazan:

xpdyinfo requires you to know the display number

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stuarta:

AndyCap: i have 2 displays :0.0 & :0.1 but only 1 entry in /tmp/.X....

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Yahooadam:

are you doing spanning or seperate displays ?

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AndyCap:

stuarta: you only have one display

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stuarta:

Kazan: Screen0 = :0.0 Screen1 = :0.1

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AndyCap:

but it consists of two screens

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Kazan:

then why can't i connect to :0.0

[20:01:31]

Kazan:

i only have one x screen running

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Yahooadam:

you can do a "span" or dualview

[20:01:50]

Kazan:

i'm trying to run xscreensaver-command from a ssh console as root

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AndyCap:

Kazan: and it says?

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GreyFoxx:

And is X running as root or as a user ?

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Kazan:

user mythtv

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GreyFoxx:

That's why

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stuarta:

you won't have the xauth keys

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AndyCap:

Kazan: no cookie

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Kazan:

i exported display=

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GreyFoxx:

Switch to the user and run it or switch to the user, run xhost +127.0.0.1

[20:02:39]

GreyFoxx:

and you can run it as any user

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AndyCap:

Kazan: xauth.

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AndyCap:

suing to the user in question is probably easier when you're root

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Kazan:

i ran that command greyfoxx and got cannot connect to display :0.0

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GreyFoxx:

Kazan: You ran it as the mythtv user ?

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Kazan:

no

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GreyFoxx:

"Switch to the user, and run xhost +127.0.0.1"

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Kazan:

done

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GreyFoxx:

now try

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Kazan:

refused by server, no protocol specified

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AndyCap:

Kazan: DISPLAY=:1.0 su -c xterm mythtv

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AndyCap:

Kazan: sorry. :0.0

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AndyCap:

replace xterm with the command you want.

[20:05:15]

Kazan:

seems to have connected

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Kazan:

but xscreensaver command failed

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AndyCap:

Kazan: what did you run?

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Kazan:

"no response to command"

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Kazan:

DISPLAY=:0.0 su -c "/usr/bin/xscreensaver-command -deactivate" mythtv

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GreyFoxx:

can't say I've ever seen "xscreensaver-command" before

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Kazan:

it's trying to tell xss to shut off from the console

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AndyCap:

Kazan: well, looks ok. you are running xscreensaver right? and not gnome-screensaver or something?

[20:07:45]

Kazan:

so you can make a lircrc rule that matches all remotes all buttons to kill xss

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Kazan:

AndyCap: good point... it's KDE.. does KDE have it's own ss?

[20:08:01]

AndyCap:

and maybe it has a funky IPC of its own

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AndyCap:

Kazan: ps auxww|grep xscreensaver ? :)

[20:08:40]

Kazan:

it appears that kde has it's own screensaver program

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GreyFoxx:

heh first thing I do on my machines is disable all screenblanking and screensavers

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Kazan:

i want to have screensaver running

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GreyFoxx:

and on desktops I just add an xlock type icon to my taskbar

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Kazan:

i've had it disabled

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GreyFoxx:

I might feel differently if I was feeding a projector or larged plasma or something, but until then nah

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Kazan:

i could always make lirc simulate a mouse movement

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Kazan:

but that's not very preferable

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AndyCap:

Kazan: kde? maybe dcop can tell the screensaver to sod off

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AndyCap:

http://www.pro-linux.de/news/2002/5041.html maybe with a little digging

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Kazan:

ha i found the two processes to kill

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Kazan:

kdesktop_lock and kslideshow.kss

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AndyCap:

Kazan: isn't killing a little, well overboard, if you want it running..

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Kazan:

those only are running when the ss is running

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Kazan:

i'll wait two minutes for it to come back and see if they do

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Kazan:

screensaver came back

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Kazan:

so did those two processes

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Kazan:

that dcop command did nothing

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AndyCap:

Kazan: that's because it's for stopping the screensaver from coming on. but if you dig a little maybe you can find a dcop command for unlocking.

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Kazan:

got it :D

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Kazan:

dcop kdesktop KScreensaverIface quit

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Speedy2:

Hey all. I'm trying to setup my IR remote control. I'm using MythWeb to add in keys for commands. I want to jump to the main-menu's sub-items like "TV" or "Music" or "Gallery". Any way to do that?

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Speedy2:

I see options like "LiveTV" or "Gallery" but that doesn't jump to the sub-items

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AndyCap:

Speedy2: telnet control interace?

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AndyCap:

Speedy2: uhh, scratch that last remark

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am_dragon:

Hello, I have a kworld 115 and i've had trouble with the ntsc side under mythtv.

[20:22:05]

am_dragon:

The audio is highpitched. I played around with mplayer and have it working perfectly there.

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Kazan:

well the script works now

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Kazan:

lets see if lirc is triggering it

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iamlindoro:

take a look at the keys.txt file, I believe it will show you all the keyboard options you can map

[20:22:55]

am_dragon:

I just don't know how to translate the Mplayer setting to mythtv.

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Kazan:

you're using the analog part of a kworld 115?

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Kazan:

why?

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Kazan:

(i have a kworld 110)

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am_dragon:

cause it's there. I have 2 channels locally that are not Highdef.

[20:23:55]

am_dragon:

when they go highdef I won't need it.

[20:24:07]

am_dragon:

next year.

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Kazan:

why don't you have a decent analog tuner?

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Kazan:

is there a program that will watch lirc running... call out button presses and show which lines in lircrc were matched?

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iamlindoro:

irw

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iamlindoro:

ah, no lircrc usage, though

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iamlindoro:

my bad

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Kazan:

my script works from the console

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iamlindoro:

Naw, not that I am aware, only irw with the lircd.conf matching

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Kazan:

but... for some reason it's either not getting called by lirc, or not working when lirc calls

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Speedy2:

iamlindoro: If for some reason I want to do more than what keys allows, anyway possible?

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iamlindoro:

speedy2, not that I am aware

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iamlindoro:

Kazan, perhaps use irexec to call your script?

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iamlindoro:

or are you doing so already?

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Kazan:

i am

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Speedy2:

Damn.

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iamlindoro:

And (not pandering, just gotta ask) I presume you've updated both the ~/.lircrc and ~/.mythtv/lircrc

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Kazan:

begin \n prog = irexec \n remote = * \n button = * \n config = /usr/local/bin/lirc_kill_xss.sh \n end

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Speedy2:

I looked at keys.txt and it doens't let me call out the submenus

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Kazan:

./mythtv/lircrc is just a symlink to .lircrc

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iamlindoro:

yeah, looks like it should work just fine

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iamlindoro:

Mine does a similar thing, but works ok

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Kazan:

i think i know what is wrong

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Kazan:

su -c only works for root

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Kazan:

if i try to "su -c $command mythtv" it prompts for password

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Kazan:

even if i'm currently the mythtv user

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iamlindoro:

yeah, it would

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Kazan:

now it works

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Kazan:

the su -c is unnecessary

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iamlindoro:

why run the commands that way? If, as you say, you'er already mythtv, should work okay without, no?

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iamlindoro:

right

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Kazan:

i had it in there because i was running the commands as root

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Kazan:

for testing

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iamlindoro:

ah

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Kazan:

now lirc can kill my screensaver

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Kazan:

yay

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Speedy2:

Anyone else know any details about Myth and lirc?

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iamlindoro:

Speedy, for you to make it work, you'd probably have to rewrite some of the myth code

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Speedy2:

This is pretty ridiculous.

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iamlindoro:

Because I'm 99% certain, and any devs can correct me, that you'll only be able to bind keys from keys.txt

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Speedy2:

With all this flexibility this should be easier.

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iamlindoro:

Well, they can't exactly creat a kyboard command for every single feature of every single plugin of myth

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iamlindoro:

I'm sur you can make LiveTv work just fine with a button, though

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Speedy2:

iamlindoro: Well I don't want a keyfunction for every feature. Just want to access the "TV" menu so I can choose between LiveTV or recordings.

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iamlindoro:

Dunno what to tell you... fill out a feature request, I guess

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iamlindoro:

Or take a look at the source code and submit a patch, if you're able

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sebrock:

anyone experience that files created from a PVR-500 plays too fast outside MythTV? GUessing it has to do with some rate?

[20:38:59]

Speedy2:

hrm

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Speedy2:

http://www.myhdbox.com/mythtips/2006_04_01_archive.php

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iamlindoro:

sebrock, My experience has been that VLC will play MP2 recordings from PVR-150 too, but that mplayer plays them properly

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iamlindoro:

er from a PVR-150 too fast

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iamlindoro:

have you tried a different app?

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sebrock:

iamlindoro, nah I just got VLC on my mac, Quicktime wont even recognize the file :D

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iamlindoro:

sebrock, download mplayerosx2

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iamlindoro:

plays Myth recordings fine

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sebrock:

strange

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Speedy2:

How are Myth's "jumpoints" linked to actions in the UI?

[20:47:56]

iamlindoro:

Looks like you might want to tweak your audio recording rates in recording profiles, too, looks like that may have something to do with VLC's wonkiness

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Speedy2:

hrm

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Speedy2:

void InitJumpPoints(void)

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siXy:

Speedy2: iirc there is a way to do it. however its been a wile and i dont have my mythbox here right now

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Speedy2:

siXy: Any pointers?

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am_dragon:

sorry had to stop away.

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am_dragon:

so my ntsc tuner works in mplayer not in MythTV

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siXy:

Speedy2: not really i'm afraid – its been to long. you could try googling for premade lircrc files – the better ones may have it in

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am_dragon:

is there a way to take the Mplayer setting that work and somehow translate that to mythTV?

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Speedy2:

siXy: I'm using blueosd theme and my remote has buttons that map to menu-items there

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sebrock:

iamlindoro what do you mean by that?

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sebrock:

you think its due to audio rate?

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iamlindoro:

Hey, I am setting up my first slave backend (out of PCI slots on the first) and I want to use it as a tuner box, but record to the master backend... now, obviously, I can NFSmount the recordings directory on my master backend and record to that, but if the slave backend is off, will the master backend still attempt to stream from it, even though the recordings are local?

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iamlindoro:

sebrock, I see a few posts that seem to indicate that it is

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siXy:

Speedy2: uh? sorry i dont understand what you mean

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sebrock:

imlindoro, would you mind giving me some links?

[21:11:53]

iamlindoro:

http://readlist.com/lists/mythtv.org/mythtv-users/12/60875.html

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sebrock:

tnx

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sebrock:

thats exaclty what I have

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iamlindoro:

yeah, seemed about right

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sebrock:

but that post is not much of a clue, did it fix the problem or not?

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iamlindoro:

Anyone have multiple backends running, preferably where they all record to one central backend? My goal is to only turn on the slave backend "as needed" but have recordings available from the master at all times

[21:16:01]

sebrock:

and how would I know which speed I should use in audio?

[21:16:03]

iamlindoro:

Only one way to find out, sebrock...

[21:16:18]

iamlindoro:

try tweaking and record some TV, then try playing those files

[21:16:27]

iamlindoro:

It sounds like it will solve the problem, though

[21:16:48]

sebrock:

alright, gonna take forever :D

[21:16:51]

iamlindoro:

I think that changing from 48000Khz to 44100 is probably right

[21:16:58]

iamlindoro:

naw, just record something for a minute or two

[21:17:01]

sebrock:

maybe

[21:18:46]

iamlindoro:

Ah, well, found my own answer: http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-9.html appears to indicate that by not setting a storage group on the slave backend, it will record to the master... just in case someone searches the chat logs for an answer :)

[21:18:50]

sebrock:

I only get the option of 32000 and 48000 in recording profiles

[21:18:56]

iamlindoro:

Then try 32000

[21:19:10]

sebrock:

its was set to that

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iamlindoro:

Makes sense give 30–40% fast

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iamlindoro:

ah, well, then try the other!

[21:19:23]

sebrock:

what is "btaudio"

[21:19:41]

sebrock:

says btaudio may only allow 32000

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iamlindoro:

I believe that would be audio used with framegrabber cards

[21:20:11]

iamlindoro:

bt848, I think?

[21:20:33]

iamlindoro:

What card are you recording to?

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sebrock:

I'm using PVR-500

[21:21:25]

iamlindoro:

Then that's not btaudio

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Toxicity999:

Yea so my new trial-mythfrontend-box is going to be so insanely low-end. I just found a bunch of old hardwrae kicking around i'm throwing together

[21:22:59]

Toxicity999:

Pentium 3 Costa Rica, and an nVidia MX 420. Heh.

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am_dragon:

how do I tell MythTV to use v4l2, or does it already?

[21:28:00]

sebrock:

iamlindoro, didnt help

[21:28:11]

iamlindoro:

ah well

[21:28:15]

sebrock:

do you know how I can get in touch with this guy?

[21:28:23]

iamlindoro:

again, it will play ok if you just use mplayerosx2

[21:28:39]

iamlindoro:

Only if his e-mail is there...

[21:28:54]

sebrock:

yeah, I've set up mythweb to stream

[21:29:03]

sebrock:

but if its gonna be like this there is no point

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sebrock:

has to work on at least vlc

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iamlindoro:

you can stream just fine into mplayerosx2

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iamlindoro:

am_dragon, I believe it's transparent to mythtv... it just uses the device node created by v4l

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iamlindoro:

2

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iamlindoro:

but mythtv def. supports v4l2

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am_dragon:

it seem that the key to my card working in mpayer is the driver=v4l2 command

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sebrock:

iamlindoro, I will not always be on a mac :D

[21:31:54]

iamlindoro:

am_dragon, as in, you just want to pass that flag to mplayer in myth?

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am_dragon:

I guess.

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am_dragon:

I can get my ntsc tuner working in mplayer but not in mythTV

[21:33:01]

am_dragon:

it's a Kworld 115

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iamlindoro:

Utilities/Setup->Setup->Media Settings->Video Settings->Player Settings

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am_dragon:

saa7134

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iamlindoro:

ah, then you're not talking about video

[21:33:49]

iamlindoro:

you'r talking about making th internal player use it

[21:34:02]

iamlindoro:

anyway, no idea on that count, I'm afraid

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am_dragon:

It's a dual tuner card so would those settings affet the ATSC and the other media as well?

[21:36:06]

am_dragon:

hmm

[21:36:11]

iamlindoro:

One would assume... you need to figure out how to load the device itself with v4l2 instead of v4l, I expect

[21:36:19]

iamlindoro:

seperate from mythtv

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iamlindoro:

Perhaps this will get you started: http://linux.bytesex.org/v4l2/saa7134.html

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RichW:

I am trying to figure out MythMusic, Where do I put my music?

[21:37:17]

iamlindoro:

Wherever you set it up to go in mythfrontend

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iamlindoro:

Utilities/Setup->Setup->Media Settings->Music Settings->General, i believe

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RichW:

ahhh thank you!

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iamlindoro:

np

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RichW:

been pondering at that for 15 mins or so

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sebrock:

iamlindoro, I got a hold of the guy asking the questions

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sebrock:

his answer was that the ivtv driver cant decode closed captioning signals very good, so that puts bogus timing info in the mpeg2 file

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iamlindoro:

What'd he have to say?

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iamlindoro:

ahhh

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iamlindoro:

interesting

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sebrock:

solution: turn closed captioning off

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sebrock:

yes very

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iamlindoro:

any solution?

[21:54:56]

iamlindoro:

did it work?

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sebrock:

nah thats pretty much all

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sebrock:

well, closed captioning, where is that setting located? backend/frontend?

[21:55:23]

sebrock:

cant find it lol

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iamlindoro:

I don't really know, but I expect it would be turned off via ivtv

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sebrock:

thing is here in sweden we dont have that

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sebrock:

(closed captioning), instead it is hardcoded on the stream

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sebrock:

well, sometimes we have it aswell but I guess its a bigger thing in the US

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iamlindoro:

If it's in frontend (I don't have mine handy) It would be something like "Disable VBI"

[21:58:29]

iamlindoro:

looks like it's in mythtv-setup

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iamlindoro:

switch VBI to none

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iamlindoro:

Probably under Capture Cards

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iamlindoro:

Or possibly General

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sebrock:

wont that turn off TELETEXT aswell?

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iamlindoro:

I would assume

[22:02:14]

sebrock:

suppsoed to toggle it with "T"

[22:02:54]

iamlindoro:

I honestly don't know anything about Teletext... am in US... But I believe it uses VBI also

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sebrock:

I think so

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RichW:

nice log bot

[22:12:39]

Yahooadam:

how do i know if mythtranscode ran ...

[22:13:00]

Yahooadam:

its not in the list on mythweb, and my programs are 2GB/hr

[22:14:32]

bsdfox_:

Yahooadam: there is a row in the recorded table that is marked

[22:15:11]

Yahooadam:

btw, how do you tell FF to piss off – "This address uses a network port which is normally used for purposes other than Web browsing. Firefox has cancelled the request for your protection."

[22:16:19]

Yahooadam:

"Transcoded 0"

[22:16:22]

Yahooadam:

why on earth ....

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bsdfox_:

what the hell?

[22:16:44]

bsdfox_:

that's probably something distro-specific

[22:16:50]

bsdfox_:

I've never seen an error like that on gentoo

[22:17:02]

Yahooadam:

Windows here ....

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annulus_:

what port? chargen?

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Yahooadam:

port 87

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Yahooadam:

i just added "network.security.ports.banned.override" to about:config and put in 87

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Yahooadam:

and it works :)

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annulus_:

ah.

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Yahooadam:

anyway

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Yahooadam:

back to transcoding

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Yahooadam:

why isnt mythtv transcoding my recordings :confused:

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Yahooadam:

the recording schelue has "Auto Transcode" ticked

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iamlindoro:

I'd start mythbackend and mythfrontend from terminals so I could watch output, then manually start a transcode and see if it fails, and why

[22:24:30]

Yahooadam:

how do i start a transcode manually ?

[22:24:44]

iamlindoro:

Job Options in Watch recordings

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Yahooadam:

no mythfrontend here

[22:25:20]

Yahooadam:

i wonder if i can get a mythfrontend over a SSH tunnel ....

[22:25:24]

iamlindoro:

Select the recording in mythweb, then, and in the sub-screen, you can click a green box "begin Transcofing"

[22:25:51]

iamlindoro:

but you won't get command-line that way

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iamlindoro:

still, you can ssh in, start a mythbackend -d there, and kick off the transcode from mythweb

[22:26:43]

Yahooadam:

if i ssh in on one terminal to make a tunnel

[22:26:48]

Yahooadam:

then use another to start mythfrotnend

[22:26:50]

Yahooadam:

anyway

[22:26:57]

Yahooadam:

i can just look at the logs ....

[22:27:01]

iamlindoro:

yup

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Yahooadam:

how do u select a recording in mythweb ?

[22:27:30]

Yahooadam:

i went to "recorded Programmes"

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iamlindoro:

Recorded Programs

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iamlindoro:

Click the image

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Yahooadam:

but they all link to the mpg file ..

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Yahooadam:

link just has – "myth://192.168.1.11:6543/2081_20071024151700.mpg"

[22:27:53]

iamlindoro:

what version of myth? Clicking the thumbnail should give you a sub-screen

[22:28:07]

Yahooadam:

feisty proposed

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iamlindoro:

Whelp, dunno what you should do there... On my SVN (and on .20.2 boxs, so far as I know) you click the thumbnail image and get recording/job options

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Yahooadam:

Library API version : 0.20.20070821–1

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Yahooadam:

dunno how u find mythweb versions

[22:29:27]

Yahooadam:

im guessing its cos mythweb is out of date ...

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iamlindoro:

probably

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Yahooadam:

but its the latest version from the repositories

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iamlindoro:

Oh your own, I'm afraid...

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Yahooadam:

ok, ill take a look

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Yahooadam:

what ports does mythtv use ?

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Yahooadam:

by default

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iamlindoro:

6543, 6544

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Yahooadam:

kk thanks

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Yahooadam:

just waiting for my virtual machine to update ...

[22:36:00]

Yahooadam:

thank god for my rediculously fast internet connection :D

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Yahooadam:

downloading the full set of updates for ubuntu feisty (including proposed) took ~ 30 seconds lol

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Patina:

Yahooadam: http://home.vrweb.de/~mike-hammer/pics/FastDownload.jpg

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RichW:

I have been pressing the volume up and down buttons but they seem to have no effect on the volume

[23:02:11]

RichW:

also mute isnt working

[23:02:16]

RichW:

any ideas?

[23:02:29]

siXy:

RichW: are you using analogue or digital out?

[23:02:35]

RichW:

DVB-T

[23:02:43]

RichW:

so its digital tv

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siXy:

RichW: that doesn't answer the question however

[23:02:53]

Yahooadam:

lol patina :)

[23:03:18]

RichW:

hmm i'm using a tft display.. not DVI, just VGA

[23:03:22]

RichW:

is that what you wanted?

[23:03:29]

Yahooadam:

and yes, my penis must be huge, cos i think im on a 4gbit connection (atleast)

[23:03:36]

siXy:

no thats video :) im interested in audio

[23:03:41]

RichW:

ohh

[23:03:45]

RichW:

analog then

[23:03:53]

RichW:

its a intel hda

[23:04:00]

RichW:

connected out to analog

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Yahooadam:

can you test the sound with anything else ?

[23:04:15]

Yahooadam:

what distro ?

[23:04:16]

siXy:

ok. in the frontend settigs under general what mixer device is specified?

[23:04:21]

RichW:

Suse 10.3

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siXy:

Yahooadam: read his original question

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RichW:

/dev/mixer ?

[23:05:21]

RichW:

mixer controls: PCM

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Yahooadam:

i did siXy, he never specified

[23:05:52]

RichW:

I have option to change that to Master

[23:06:00]

Yahooadam:

or my IRC channel missed a line

[23:06:05]

siXy:

ok. can you try playing some audio from xmms or similar and adjust the mixer settings in your DE

[23:06:13]

Yahooadam:

client #

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siXy:

Yahooadam: the point is that his audio works, hes just having issues with his mixer.

[23:07:52]

Yahooadam:

unless this convo was started before he just joined ...

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Yahooadam:

in which case i may well have missed the beggining ;)

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RichW:

I changed it to master and its fine now

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RichW:

:)

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RichW:

seems it didnt like PCM

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siXy:

ah ok – that was easy :)

[23:11:08]

RichW:

I got a dual screen setup with mythtv on the other.. its pretty cool.

[23:12:48]

Yahooadam:

iamlindoro – it needs port 3306 for mysql aswell :)

[23:14:13]

Yahooadam:

also, trying to do it over the internet is quite slow :p

[23:15:04]

siXy:

Yahooadam: better to use mythweb with video streaming for that imo

[23:15:33]

Yahooadam:

i need to tell it to commflag

[23:16:26]

Yahooadam:

umm

[23:16:27]

Yahooadam:

transcode

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Yahooadam:

watch recordings is soooooo slow lol

[23:17:29]

Yahooadam:

what is it doing, sending the recordings with it

[23:18:03]

Yahooadam:

oh

[23:18:05]

Yahooadam:

hmm

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siXy:

nope. start with -v all and you will see why its so slow. its doing hundreds of small requests, that multiplied by the latency = a lot of time

[23:18:21]

Yahooadam:

its trying to connect to 192.168.1.11 = fail

[23:18:41]

siXy:

oh :D

[23:18:53]

Yahooadam:

is there a way to route 192.168.1.11 to 127.0.0.1

[23:19:00]

siXy:

well even if you get the right IP it will still be very slow of a WAN link

[23:19:26]

siXy:

hmm? why would you want to do that?

[23:19:55]

Yahooadam:

because im connecting over ssh, so the mythtv server should be on localhost, but because it gets teh IP from the settings, its wrong

[23:20:59]

siXy:

eh?

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Yahooadam:

lol

[23:21:25]

Yahooadam:

basically im faking a mythtv server on localhost

[23:21:56]

siXy:

why not just connect to the real server and save a lot of pain?

[23:23:32]

Yahooadam:

how would i bridge that over the internet ...

[23:23:34]

RichW:

i wonder how big of a pipe you would need to the net for mythtv.. must be at least 100mbit i bet.

[23:23:56]

RichW:

not sure about 10 up/down :)

[23:24:00]

Kazan:

what's the command to force mythfill to delete all data and completely reload

[23:24:11]

fryfrog:

--refresh-all

[23:24:16]

fryfrog:

and/or looking at --help output :)

[23:24:48]

Kazan:

because the MLS playoff match tommorow was rescheduled for a different time like... last week and my listings haven't updated

[23:25:06]

siXy:

RichW: nothing like that big

[23:25:15]

fryfrog:

the daily update of listings gets the current day and the last day

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siXy:

even HD is less than 20mbit

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Yahooadam:

bah

[23:25:31]

RichW:

Nice!

[23:25:32]

Yahooadam:

hosts file didnt work

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siXy:

Yahooadam: just point the FE to the external IP of your router and NAT it to the backend

[23:26:31]

Kazan:

not all routers allow that sixy

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siXy:

RichW: its the latency thats the problem more than the bandwidth, assuming you have a home connectionwith a fast upload

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Kazan:

infact no router i ever have owned allows that

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siXy:

Kazan: i've never owned one that didnt :)

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Yahooadam:

im pretty sure its not possible siXy

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Yahooadam:

oh maybe not then

[23:27:19]

Yahooadam:

siXy that wont work anyway

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Kazan:

linksys, d-link routers are what i've had

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siXy:

Yahooadam: why?

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Yahooadam:

because although that might connect it to the mysql database

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Kazan:

if you tried to point a computer on the internal network to the external ip to abuse the port forwarding they would just drop the packets

[23:27:48]

Yahooadam:

when mythfrontend looks for the backend it finds the ip from the database

[23:27:55]

Yahooadam:

and thats setup in mythtv-setup

[23:28:22]

Yahooadam:

but if i change that ip then all my frontends break

[23:29:13]

siXy:

on the remote FE alias "internal backend ip" "remote ip"

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siXy:

that should do it

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webustany:

hi there

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Yahooadam:

thats what im trying to do siXy >_<

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Yahooadam:

i have no idea _how_ to though :p

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webustany:

I installed mythtv yesterday on a fedora 8 from source, but I can't do recordings. Myth says it's recording when it shoulds, but it stores the files nowhere

[23:30:44]

webustany:

or maybe in /dev/null :)

[23:31:03]

Yahooadam:

did you setup the recording directory in mythtv-setup ?

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Yahooadam:

and can mythtv write to said directory

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webustany:

I think yes

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webustany:

mythtv run as me

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Yahooadam:

does the backend run as you though

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Yahooadam:

normally it runs as mythtv

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siXy:

Yahooadam: http://www.unix.org.ua/orelly/networking/tcpip/ch07_03.htm

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webustany:

[madcat@boiteux enregistrements]$ps aux | grep myth

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webustany:

madcat 9988 0.1 2.6 248504 13740 ? Ssl Oct24 1:49 mythbackend -d

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siXy:

static routing howto

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webustany:

Yahooadam: also, RecordFilePrefix is set to the right folder in the settings

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webustany:

I'm looking in the database

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Yahooadam:

not having luck there siXy – "SIOCADDRT: No such device"

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siXy:

hmm?? what command are you trying to run?

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Yahooadam:

sudo route add 192.168.1.11 127.0.0.1

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Yahooadam:

if i put the extra 1 at the end like i did, it throws up route --help (i assume that means syntax error)

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Yahooadam:

like they did #

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webustany:

Yahooadam: what are you trying to do ?

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Yahooadam:

route 192.168.1.11 to locahost

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Yahooadam:

so when i ping 192.168.1.11 it should ping localhost

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webustany:

Yahooadam: that's using /etc/hosts, not routes, or am I wrong ?

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siXy:

Yahooadam: i dont think you can route an ip > localhost

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webustany:

no, you can use /etc/hosts

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siXy:

you could route that ip > external ip of your mythbx however

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webustany:

to make an alias

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Yahooadam:

i tried hosts too

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Yahooadam:

i put an entry in hosts

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Yahooadam:

127.0.0.1 192.168.1.11

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Yahooadam:

and tried it the other way too

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Yahooadam:

(and restarted networking after each attempt)

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siXy:

webustany: that wont work

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webustany:

cause of the subnet ?

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siXy:

Yahooadam: how about using DNS address rather than IP for your backend + all frontends?

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siXy:

then it gets very easy

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siXy:

echo "127.0.0.1 mythbackend" >> /etc/hosts

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siXy:

otherwise, you are going to have to use my earlier suggestion, which was map the internal myth backend ip to the external network ip on the remote FE

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Kazan:

meng

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Kazan:

i may have to go in and correct the espn2 listings by hand

[23:45:35]

Kazan:

yup

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Kazan:

crap

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Kazan:

schedules direct has incorrect information

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webustany:

nobody has a clue for my recording problem ?

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siXy:

webustany: i'm guessing either permissions on the recording directory, or it doesnt exsist

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webustany:

well, it exists, and mythtv can write in it since it put a nfslock file...

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Kazan:

grrrr

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siXy:

Kazan: EIT has its plus points :)

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Yahooadam:

weird

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Yahooadam:

if i add 127.0.0.1 windows.com, windows.com gets redirected to 127.0.0.1

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Yahooadam:

but if i do 127.0.0.1 192.168.1.11, it doesnt get routed to 127.0.0.1

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siXy:

Yahooadam: you can alias a DNS name in hosts, but not an ip

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mzb_d800:

Yahooadam: your original aim was to find out why transcoding wasn't working, right? Haven't you lost sight of the problem? ;)

[23:48:14]

Yahooadam:

maybe al ittle

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Yahooadam:

but i cant do anything without this

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siXy:

mzb_d800: lol

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siXy:

webustany: start backend with -v all and you should find out when you try to record somehitng

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webustany:

ok, thanks

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mzb_d800:

seriously, you are getting so distracted

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mzb_d800:

why don't you rethink your method

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siXy:

anyways – i gotta go. bye!

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Yahooadam:

ive downloaded the latest mythweb from the website

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mzb_d800:

I started to read the log, but tbh it was too long and boring ;)

[23:49:52]

Yahooadam:

but that still gives the same problem

[23:49:55]

Yahooadam:

so i need a frontend

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mzb_d800:

why do you need a local frontend?

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Kazan:

sixy: you don't get EIT for analog channels

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Yahooadam:

so i can tell it to transcode a recording

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mzb_d800:

pfft

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Kazan:

and i don't even get EIT for my digital channels

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mzb_d800:

ssh -X myfrontend@home

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mzb_d800:

ssh mybackend@home

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mzb_d800:

wouldn't that be easier?

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mzb_d800:

then increase the verbosity of the backend (no need to run it in console) and restart it

[23:52:10]

mzb_d800:

tail the backend log in one session, and start the frontend in the other

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Yahooadam:

because that wouldnt start a transcode job ...

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Yahooadam:

all i want is to start a transcode

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mzb_d800:

are you listening?

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mzb_d800:

by starting a frontend from within the ssh session, it will open on your current desktop

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mzb_d800:

that is the simplest approach imo

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webustany:

2007-10–25 01:50:10.985 Started recording: 2 (France 2) "jeu oct 25 01:49:00 2007": channel 1002 on cardid 1, sourceid 1

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webustany:

2007-10–25 01:52:04.339 Finished recording 2 (France 2) "jeu oct 25 01:49:00 2007": channel 1002

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Yahooadam:

do you have any idea how slow transfering X over the internet is ?

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webustany:

no errors in between

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mzb_d800:

compress it

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Yahooadam:

i would be here for hours while the screen loaded

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webustany:

yes

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webustany:

ssh -X is very slow

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webustany:

nx is way faster

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mzb_d800:

and how long have you spent trying to do something that should have been done with a vpn? ;)

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mzb_d800:

you're not trying to watch video over it

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mzb_d800:

just navigate the frontend menus to start a job

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Yahooadam:

seriously, how hard is it to say, if ip address = 192.168.1.11 then ip address = 127.0.0.1

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Yahooadam:

i thought Linux was meant to be good at stuff like that

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mzb_d800:

now if I can do ssh -X over ~512Kb I'm sure your 4Mb connection would handle it

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Kazan:

um

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Kazan:

went you give an exact ip address it doesn't go to the hosts file

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Kazan:

why do you need to do this anyway

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Kazan:

why don't you freaking update the config

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Yahooadam:

cos that breaks all the frontends using mythtv ...

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Kazan:

fix them?

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Kazan:

update their configs

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johnadsfsdfdf:

ok ive got svideo out working on my ati radeon 9200se, but its only showing the first 800x600 of what's on the monitor... i got it using xrandr... tried setting the vga to 800x600 but when i do that i cant get xrandr to turn on svideo ... any ideas

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Kazan:

disable monitor usage

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mzb_d800:

anyway, I've given you 2 suggestions that would help, have fun

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johnadsfsdfdf:

Kazan: the only way i can get it to show is by runnning xrandr from within X... how can i set this up to be automatic?

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Kazan:

xorg.conf

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johnadsfsdfdf:

xorg.conf is a difficult beast to master, ive been fighting with it for a few days on this issue... any idea how i can find what needs to be set based off of the xrandr commands i run?

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Kazan:

google

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Kazan:

use only the svideo out

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Kazan:

ati xorg svideo out

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Kazan:

are you using the binary driver or the open source one?

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johnadsfsdfdf:

open source

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Kazan:

bad boy

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johnadsfsdfdf:

from what i read its better

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Kazan:

you read wrong

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