Beirdobot, irc.freenode.net

Friday, October 19th, 2007, 00:00 UTC

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SarahEmm:

anyway.. bbiab :)\

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mzb_d800:

ramp up the debug and wait for a "Help, my BE is dead!" ;)

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docjay:

well, theres no audio...I'm stuck

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mzb_d800:

alsamixer + test audio ?

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Pitchin_uk:

Evening. I'm running suse 10.3 and i'm trying to get the xmltv working for the UK but can't seem to find the rpm or source – any ideas?

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leprechau:

so is there a free guide provider anymore?

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mzb_d800:

leprechau: country?

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leprechau:

usa

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mzb_d800:

can't help you, I'm .au

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mzb_d800:

although I do recall some discussion about us$20/yr

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leprechau:

yeah i think i just found that on the wiki

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leprechau:

schedulesdirect.org

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mzb_d800:

that sounds like the one

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mzb_d800:

I've got a recording which I've cut and transcoded, but I wan't to cut more (didn't check it first!;)

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mzb_d800:

If I cut again, do I have to transcode all over again, or is there a quick(er) way?

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mzb_d800:

(without leaving cut points in)

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mzb_d800:

I guess lossless transcode is what I'm after?

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docjay:

does anyone know if I'll be able to use and HDMI cable from my soundcard for video to my TV (the TV does have HDMI), but I'm not getting any audio...if I get this: http://www.cablesnmor.com/index.asp?PageActio . . . p;ProdID=300 can I use the rca cables to get audio while I use the HDMI input? would that output sound?

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docjay:

does anyone know if I'll be able to use and HDMI cable from my soundcard for video to my TV (the TV does have HDMI), but I'm not getting any audio...if I get this: http://www.cablesnmor.com/index.asp?PageActio . . . p;ProdID=300 can I use the rca cables to get audio while I use the HDMI input? would that output sound?

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docjay:

anyone know what I can't play recorded programs from IE7?

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tomb0y:

u need a dvi -> hdmi , or vga, or svideo for your video signal, and then 1/8" headphone jack to rca (red/white) for audio, unless your equipment supports digital audio out/optics etc

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docjay:

gotcha – thank tomb0y

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SarahEmm:

hihi

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docjay:

anyone know what I can't play recorded programs from IE7?

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bobc:

I've got a Mythtv box in which the backend won't come up after a power outage. The backend says that there's no setting's found for the machine's BackendServerIP.

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bobc:

when I run mythbackend -v all I see that it is using hostname 'my-unique-identifier-goes-here' instead of the correct hostname

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bobc:

the box returns the correct hostname using the hostname command however

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bobc:

I'm confused

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bobc:

any ideas?

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GreyFoxx:

You need to edit your mysql.txt

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GreyFoxx:

you appear to have uncommented the LocalHostName value without actually filling one in

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GreyFoxx:

(you likely have 2 o them on your system and a diferent once is used during bootup)

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bobc:

you mean I uncommented the LocalHostName value in the hosts file?

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GreyFoxx:

in "mysql.txt"

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GreyFoxx:

the file myth uses to get the database connection parameters

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mzb_d800:

I've changed my High Quality profile so that I can do the lossless (re)encoding I mentioned above ^^

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bobc:

I see the identifier there

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mzb_d800:

but this setup seems less than ideal

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bobc:

and for some reason it is uncommented

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bobc:

don't know how that happened. thanks GreyFoxx!

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GreyFoxx:

np:)

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mzb_d800:

isn't there a "nice" way to re-encode a recording that has already been transcoded? (ie. just perform more cuts?)

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GreyFoxx:

I don't think there is

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GreyFoxx:

only for mpeg2->mpeg2 stuff

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mzb_d800:

so my changing my high quality profile to be lossless, and then doing a 2nd transcode at highQ won't work?

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mzb_d800:

(it's > 50% now;)

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GreyFoxx:

I'd be happily suprised if it did

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GreyFoxx:

how long has it been running ?

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mzb_d800:

couple of minutes

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GreyFoxx:

As far as I knew the lossless stuff applied to mpeg2 video only

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mzb_d800:

120fps

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GreyFoxx:

but if it works then cool

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mzb_d800:

hmm

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mzb_d800:

seems like a bit of a hack

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mzb_d800:

the program in question was (I think) mediumQ (which I've got set to mpeg4 2200)

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mzb_d800:

seems to have worked

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mzb_d800:

1.3GB -> 922.7 MB

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mzb_d800:

no longer has a cut list. Let's see if it's watchable ;)

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GreyFoxx:

hehe

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mzb_d800:

looks fine

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mzb_d800:

but all sounds too easy ;)

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GreyFoxx:

cool :)

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mzb_d800:

tbh, I think I had medium and high profiles set to the same

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mzb_d800:

so it's no real loss

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mzb_d800:

seek table seems ok

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mzb_d800:

and no ads :)

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mzb_d800:

well I'm confused ... but I guess I can live with the result

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mzb_d800:

:)

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SarahEmm:

speaking of which, how do you do cuts like that?

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mzb_d800:

cuts like what?

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jblack:

WHOAH

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jblack:

mythtv 5204 2.0 16.6 1918436 86088 ? Ssl Oct10 249:08 /usr/bin/mythbackend --daemon --logfile /var/log/mythtv/mythba

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jblack:

That's a pretty big vsz

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mzb_d800:

SarahEmm: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Removing_Commercials&nbs p;??

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dinosaurmail:

i am have trouble

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dinosaurmail:

anyone have that problem?

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dinosaurmail:

hello

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SarahEmm:

thanks mzb_d800

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mzb_d800:

yes, I often have problems understanding

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jblack:

Is it normal for mythbackend to need 1.8 gigs of memory?

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dinosaurmail:

my ivtv card is outputting in b/w. any thoughts why?

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mzb_d800:

I seem to recall a comment in the wiki about greyscale output problems

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mzb_d800:

(ie. solving them)

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dinosaurmail:

hunting the wiki again right now

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dinosaurmail:

mzb i found what i think you were referring to, and it unfortunately doesnt apply to me

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mzb_d800:

ah, sorry then, I can't help

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mzb_d800:

wow 2.6GB down to 236MB for a 1hr show... nice

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clever:

mzb_d800: what did you do?:D

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mzb_d800:

set my LQ profile to mpeg4 @1800, edited prog (I have pre 5mins +post 15mins), then transcoded to LQ

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clever:

ahh

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mzb_d800:

it was only "Scrubs" so I'm not interested in quality ;)

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clever:

i get 1gig/hour at mpeg4

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clever:

but its still painfull

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mzb_d800:

but tbh, I can't see a problem with it

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mzb_d800:

(the viewed image)

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clever:

i'll have to try turning my lw profile down more

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mzb_d800:

just did a 2nd show => 204MB

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clever:

2200 is my current quality

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clever:

now its 1800 2 15 3\

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mzb_d800:

I also have it resized to 480x480

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mzb_d800:

and have HQ + 4MV enabled

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clever:

i'll try those 2 also

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mzb_d800:

the SBE that does commflagging and transcoding does _nothing_else_ (virtual machine)

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clever:

i checked an option so jobs dont have to run on the same system as the recording

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mzb_d800:

and I've set the other BE's so they are unlikely to ever do jobs

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clever:

and shut comflaging off on the master(harms the cpu power durring frame grabbing)

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clever:

all fe's also run a slave backend(to flag/transcode)

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mzb_d800:

2000 MHz (Sempron 3400+) beats 800/866 Mhz any day ;)

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clever:

1.6ghz on my master

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clever:

2.9ghz on the winblows which isnt used by myth at all yet

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mzb_d800:

my MBE (inc. FE) is 804 ;P

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mzb_d800:

(overclocked P3–650)

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clever:

lol

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mzb_d800:

complete hack job ... couple of the memory slots are corroded, but managed to fix 1 with a few pieces of tin(?) sheet carefully bent into the outer edge of the socket ;)

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clever:

lol

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clever:

the isa slots in 1 system are damaged

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mzb_d800:

cpu fan is hacked off something else, and permanently wired in to psu

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clever:

same pin in each

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clever:

lol

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mzb_d800:

other FE is a sff gx150, and I didn't want to spend au$30 for a low profile usb2 card (for the dvb tuner)

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mzb_d800:

so I just got a cheap via usb2 card and cut it in half with a hacksaw

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mzb_d800:

;)

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clever:

about all ive spent on mythtv is the ir blaster

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clever:

and the 1 payment to schedules direct

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mzb_d800:

works well ... although the missing ports report over current ;)

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mzb_d800:

nice

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RyeBrye:

Anyone know why Myth would start recording, then stop recording immediately on 2 shows, and then record a show that had a lower priority?

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RyeBrye:

I have my logs dumping to my database, and I can give someone access to my mythweb if you want to see what's up with my logs

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abarbaccia:

hey all

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abarbaccia:

anybody have the uPNP server working within MythTV?

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rcohen:

i'm using a plextor convertx device and i'm getting a massive delay for live tv recordings

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rcohen:

7 seconds or more

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mzb_d800:

how can I have channels available for recording, but not watching?

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Agrajag-:

rcohen: is there a problem?

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SarahEmm:

rcohen: 7 seconds doens't sound unreasonable...

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rcohen:

agrajag-: it makes it annoying to match live tv because changing channels is incredibly slow

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rcohen:

s/match/watch/

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rcohen:

is this normal? does everyone just accept it?

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Agrajag-:

most people don't use mythtv for live tv + channel surfing

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abarbaccia:

rcohen – how are you changing channels?

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rcohen:

from the cable box

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rcohen:

haven't received my serial connector yet

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rcohen:

so it's not the issue mentioned in the FAQ about opening a new file

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Newbuntu2:

hello

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quantum:

ahh just installed mythtv-suite but it added a user mythv to run mythbackend, now I can't add a mythtv user myself, anybody know how to solve this? can I somehow rename the user that it autocreated or somethign?

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RyeBrye:

why do you want to readd a user that already exists?

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RyeBrye:

changing the password I would assume would suffice

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RyeBrye:

as root passwd mythtv

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quantum:

well it is only an account to run the backend it doesn't add a shell, and /home/mythtv etc

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quantum:

has something like mythtv:x:498:497:mythtvbacken user:/var/lib/mythtv:/sbin/nologin

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anxt:

solved my problem with reaing and garbled picture. this is what helped. i changed myth to record at 720*480 instead of 480*480. 720*480 is the cards default i guess. don't know why this is a problem now and didn't used to be but i thought i would share it here for those who find it on google :)

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anxt:

donc cet est ca

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anxt:

so my myth is pimped out again

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Dr_willis:

"Pimp out My PVR"

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Dr_willis:

:)

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anxt:

i need lcd now

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anxt:

and HD tuners

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anxt:

i don't know how to do HD tuners in my area though

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anxt:

maybe satellite

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anxt:

and the front end of my borhters is humped

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anxt:

but liek i care

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anxt:

he is not i

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banyan:

My recordings aren't scheduled for some reason...

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banyan:

I was getting card failures so I deleted all my cards, recreated them and reassigned the sources to them, but now myth says I haven't scheduled any recordings. um, wha?

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anxt:

that is cause the flames suck

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anxt:

:)

[05:07:26]

docjay:

anyone know what I can't play recorded programs from IE7?

[05:07:39]

docjay:

anyone know what I can't play recorded programs from IE7 through mythweb?

[05:07:47]

quantum:

does it support the file format

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anxt:

i wonder if you got mpg2 codec

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RyeBrye:

can you play them in another browser?

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anxt:

if you are using hauppauge pvr you will need a dvd codec

[05:08:25]

docjay:

its a hdhr

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anxt:

well mpeg2 anyway

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anxt:

can you download the program and open it with virutaldub or something?

[05:08:58]

anxt:

well you should know what is the format

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anxt:

i dunno vista, but xp won't play a mpeg2 from a install of retail

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anxt:

install windvd or powerdvd or something and it will after that

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docjay:

firefox says the 'protocol' myth isn't associated with anything'

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anxt:

or possibly one of those codec packs, but i am not sure how legal they are

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anxt:

ahh your linmks are myth:// ?

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docjay:

http://mythbox/mythweb/tv/recorded

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anxt:

well there yah go

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anxt:

maybe at "mythbox" to hosts?

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anxt:

can you ping mythbox?

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anxt:

i think it is found at

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anxt:

windows\system32=drivers\etc\hosts

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anxt:

windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts

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anxt:

something like that

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banyan:

weird — nothing I schedule gets scheduled.

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docjay:

yeah, the website works, but when I click on the recorded program, it never plays

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anxt:

docjay: my suggestion i think had nothing to do with your problem

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anxt:

docjay: what if you save program as

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anxt:

docjay: what if you "save program as"

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anxt:

perhaps even rename it an avi

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anxt:

i think wmp will look at all avis and try and determin codec

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anxt:

i _think_

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docjay:

I can never download it...it just never finds the file

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banyan:

hmm, a table is crashed in mysql.

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anxt:

docjay: deos apache have permission ot server the file?

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anxt:

maybe try and put a text file in the directory and see if you can open it

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CCB0x45:

hey

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CCB0x45:

I just bought the parts to build a myth tv box

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CCB0x45:

should I start with mythbuntu or knoppix myth?

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CCB0x45:

whats up

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CCB0x45:

anyone around?

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banyan:

I don't know either one but I do use fedora with myth and it's OK.

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banyan:

I also learned that mythtv won't schedule recordings if one of the recordings tables is crashed.

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banyan:

and if weird stuff is going on to check the backend log.

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CCB0x45:

aight

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CCB0x45:

I think ill try ubuntu

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CCB0x45:

since the new one just came out

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banyan:

Oh! Does anyone know which table contains the key mappings?

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banyan:

and, does anyone have theirs set up so that the forward arrow goes forward 30 seconds (rather than seeking forward), backward goes back 5 seconds (rather than seeking backward), and generally behaves the way the frontend did, say, two years ago?

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xris:

CCB0x45: best recommendation is to stick with the distro you're most familiar with.

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CCB0x45:

haha yea

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CCB0x45:

I havnt used any of them in a while

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CCB0x45:

if there isnt any clear winner in terms of support

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CCB0x45:

and being up to date

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CCB0x45:

I guess ill just go with ubuntu

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CCB0x45:

Ive been using a mac for a while

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CCB0x45:

so its been a couple years since I used a distro

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heanol:

is there any cpu that can play 1080p xvid/wmv/x264 videos now?

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Tanthrix:

heanol: Yes and no.

[08:09:52]

Tanthrix:

heanol: MPEG2 1080p is no problem for a Core 2 Duo, nor is xvid, WMV might be tricky, and x264 is extremely unlikely to work, but only until some mutlithreaded decoders come out

[08:10:35]

heanol:

hmm.. ok

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Tanthrix:

heanol: I have a E4400 which does 720p x264 pretty reliability without any issues, but 1080p maxes out one of my cores. I suspect that it will work though once some multithreaded linux decoders come out

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heanol:

just thinking about what CPU to buy for my new htpc

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clever:

my system cant even handle 720p h264

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clever:

but i can encode to mpeg4 in real time(damn frame grabber)

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Tanthrix:

heanol: I'd say grab a Core 2 Duo and just hope it works for 1080p x264 stuff someday with better decoders. Not a lot of 1080p x264 material out there anyway, partly because of how intensive it is to decode.

[08:13:26]

Tanthrix:

Or something equivilent to a C2D.

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heanol:

yeah, trying to decide if to get an amd x2 or c2d

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heanol:

what uses less power?

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Tanthrix:

Not sure.

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reclusivemonke2:

heanol: Tom's Hardware has some pretty good guides with regard to benchmarks and comparisons of processors

[08:14:43]

Tanthrix:

I'm an intel man now myself, after using AMD for many years.

[08:16:17]

Tanthrix:

And now that they bought ATI I definately don't want anything to do with them ;)

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heanol:

core2duo turned me around from amd to intel too

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heanol:

though i've had nothing but trouble with my intel-chipset motherboard

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Tanthrix:

Part of the reason I switched to intel was to use intel motherboards with intel chipsets, which I thought might be slightly more stability oriented rather than performance oriented compared to all the AMD boards out there with their huge variety of mysterious chipsets

[08:19:38]

Tanthrix:

You'd think that a chipset and board designed by the same company that created the processor would, in theory, be more likely to be stable and without problems than other random brands.

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heanol:

exactly

[08:19:51]

heanol:

but i've had just the opposite experience

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Tanthrix:

But, ultimately, I think that it's all luck of the draw.

[08:20:14]

heanol:

i have two boxes, c2d e660 + intel 975x mobo and amd64 x2 3600+ with nforce chipset mobo

[08:20:25]

heanol:

the amd works much better

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Tanthrix:

In windows or linux?

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heanol:

linux

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heanol:

windows doesn't matter :)

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Tanthrix:

Well, that is a different matter entirely.

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Tanthrix:

Especially since linux, being free, tends to attract tinkers and other sorts who like working on cheaper or older hardware.

[08:21:37]

heanol:

yrp

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heanol:

yep

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Tanthrix:

Even that being so, I've had a huge load of problems on my nforce 650i+C2D.

[08:22:25]

Tanthrix:

Seriously pain in the ass want to kill everything multi-day long problems.

[08:23:08]

Tanthrix:

Eventually got them all sorted, but it definately wasn't a fun experience. The lesson to be learned? Don't install linux on hardware that is less than 1.5 years old ;)

[08:23:34]

heanol:

hehe, yes.

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heanol:

the e6750 looks promising

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heanol:

hm

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Esine:

hi. I'm using the MythTV svn from yesterday. When I start mythfrontend I'm prompted with a screen to select the default MythTV Backend. The backend is running and it's on the same computer as the frontend, however there's only choice Do not connect to a backend. It doesn't seem to detect my backend.

[09:53:19]

Esine:

When I get to the frontend and click Watch TV it works just fine and doesn't complain anything

[09:53:30]

Esine:

so.. is that a known problem with the latest SVN or what?

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clever:

Esine: i get that problem if i have 2 frontends running on the same box

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mzb_d800:

Esine: I am(attempting) change over to svn from yesterday too

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mzb_d800:

I've noticed that when the backend is not running

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mzb_d800:

did you remember to set the PIN ?

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Esine:

mzb_d800, on mythtv setup? I set it to 0000. Do I need to set it in frontend settings too?

[10:50:25]

Esine:

anyway I downgraded to older version now..

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mzb_d800:

well, you need it somewhere, right? or it won't login!

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GreyFoxx:

You can also skip that altogether with mythfrontend -d

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GreyFoxx:

most people who fail to find the backend during autodiscovery have a network card that is not passing the multicast traffic. It might enabled by ifconfig but somecards/drivers are just broken

[11:00:12]

directhex|work:

all this new-fangled technology. what's wrong with just single-machine & fbdev?

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Esine:

oh it could've been that then greed_

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Esine:

GreyFoxx sorry

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clever:

mzb_d800: the frotnend will ask for the pin when you pick a backend

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mzb_d800:

yep, but the backend won't start if you don't set the pin

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mzb_d800:

(first)

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clever:

my backend started without a pin just fine

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mzb_d800:

hence, it won't be in the list when you start the frontend

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mzb_d800:

mine didn't

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mzb_d800:

(iirc)

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clever:

which then causes problems because i didnt know what the pin was when it started asking:P

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mzb_d800:

> 1hr ;)

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mzb_d800:

I also seem to recall that the PIN *must* be set ... and I had problems at first because I ignored that ;)

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tank-man:

my setup is from 1 year ago and i never set a pin

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juski:

wow. well worth coming back for

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quicksilver:

:) @ juski

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quicksilver:

always good value

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mzb_d800:

tank-man: we're talking about recent(?) svn

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mzb_d800:

it seems that each backend needs a pin assigned

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mzb_d800:

(won't start without being set)

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joyzlin:

hi there. Anyone knows the current status of MythTV SVN regarding MPEG4-AVC? I tried recent mythtv-multirec on a freshly added HD channel on Astra 1E and got just nothing (I admit I didn't enable full logging)

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mzb_d800:

and each frontend needs the pin for the backend it needs to connect to

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joyzlin:

do I need say the latest ffmpeg patch, or perhaps the commercial decoder that can be hacked into mythtv?

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joyzlin:

or is the stock myth OK and I've run into different problem?

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directhex|work:

joyzlin, h264 should play VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY slowly right now

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directhex|work:

joyzlin, another ffmpeg sync is required to add multithreaded decoding (current mythtv ffmpeg is ~r8000, threaded h264 decoding is ~r10000

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joyzlin:

directhex|work, I got poor Sempron 3100+ – I guess I shouldn't even try recording the full HD now?

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directhex|work:

joyzlin, honestly? no, not with ffmpeg doing the decoding

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directhex|work:

joyzlin, if you want to do some testing, there are files on http://x264.nl/h.264.samples/ which are captures from broadcast h264 hd channels

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tank-man:

is mythtranscode able to make mpeg4-avc files?

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directhex|work:

joyzlin, try playing them

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directhex|work:

tank-man, h264? dunno

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joyzlin:

directhex|work, is even the recording supposed to fail?

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joyzlin:

directhex|work, it created 0 bytes long file

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directhex|work:

joyzlin, no, that shouldn't happen unless there's something funny going on (e.g. it's transmitted with dvb-s2

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joyzlin:

directhex|work: though interesting is that sasc (normally taking 6% for decoding SD) went up to some 31% and stayed there – so it was decoding the HD C*worx all the time

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joyzlin:

but it wasn't saving anyting to disk

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joyzlin:

anything

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directhex|work:

joyzlin, oh, you're using a softcam. all bets are off as to what/why is broken then

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directhex|work:

joyzlin, it's also far from supported in here

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joyzlin:

i'd like to note that I own the decoding card. I just use softcam to put it into pc

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directhex|work:

not, strictly speaking, relevant to the discussion

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joyzlin:

anyway this is dvb-s and was reported to work correctly by other SkyStar2 owners using AltDVD (Windows soft)

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joyzlin:

AltDVB, sorry

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directhex|work:

for all i know, it could be your CAM emulator choking on the stream, but it would be fine with a hardware CAM

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joyzlin:

ok I take that.

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joyzlin:

anyway, could the poor sempron handle saving the stream (not talking about playing it back – I could use another frontend with dual 4800+)

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joyzlin:

and is current mythtv-multirec ready for such hd streaming?

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joyzlin:

i am asking because afaik other FTA HD tests on Astra 19.2 and 23.5 moved to DVB-S2 or use such high FEC that SS2 can't handle them

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directhex|work:

in theory, the CPU shouldn't matter, it's all disk i?o based

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directhex|work:

which is what DMA is for

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joyzlin:

directhex|work: in theory, yes. OK, I just wanted to hear whether upgrading the ffmpeg or something is required for recording. Seems like it's not which is good. Thanks.

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directhex|work:

joyzlin, ffmpeg is not used in any way, shape or form for recording

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joyzlin:

directhex|work, I understand. Just wanted to be sure before digging deeper.

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Kazan:

dammit mkrufky isn't here!

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Kazan:

on of the heads of my pvr-500 is going bad

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Kazan:

one*

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sam_:

hi

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sam_:

keen to find out status on the mythtv-multi-rec branch..

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GreyFoxx:

works very well for me

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Kazan:

GreyFoxx: you use pvr-500s?

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** Kazan needs diagnostics... i think the first head of mine is in the process of breaking down **

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GreyFoxx:

2 pvr 250's, dvb and firewire

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Kazan:

dammit

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Kazan:

on the first head of my pvr-500 i'm getting... tearing

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Kazan:

like a vhs that's out of tracking

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GreyFoxx:

Only 1 of the 2 on that card???

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GreyFoxx:

ls -la

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GreyFoxx:

oops

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Kazan:

yeah only one of the two

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Kazan:

encoder1 = pvr-150, encoder2 = kworld atsc 110, encoder 3 = pvr-500 head0, encoder 4 = pvr-500 head1

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Kazan:

encoder3 is the one with problems

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Kazan:

all the others are fine

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tank-man:

i am jelous of your setup

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fryfrog:

if you swap your pvr500s, does the problem follow?

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Kazan:

what do you mean?

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fryfrog:

if you pull the pvr500 and put it in another box

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fryfrog:

does the problem appear on the other box?

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fryfrog:

ie, have you for *sure* tracked it down to the physical hardware?

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Kazan:

haven't tried

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Kazan:

this problem just started in this box in the last few weeks

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fryfrog:

it is a pita, but that is what i'd do to trouble shoot

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Kazan:

i would have to pull the board and stick it in one of my windows boxen

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tank-man:

try physically swaping in same box

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tank-man:

first maybe

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fryfrog:

i'm not sure if swapping positions will be enough to score it a new device

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fryfrog:

it *might*, but it might not

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tank-man:

i know , but maybe its that pci slot?

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Kazan:

both heads would be affected if it was

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fryfrog:

oh, i doubt that

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fryfrog:

i mean, that it is the pci slot that is

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Kazan:

well why don't i find out if i have an open pci slot to move it to

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fryfrog:

my guess would be a) interference (unlikely) or b) maybe a glitch/something on the onboard splitter?

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fryfrog:

heck, i guess something could be wrong with the tuner or mpeg2 encoder :/

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Kazan:

it just cropped up in the last few weeks

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fryfrog:

sorry, nothing comes to mind

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fryfrog:

i'd first move it to another box and see if the issue comes with it

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fryfrog:

windows would be fine

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fryfrog:

linux would be better so you could narrow down the culprit though

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Kazan:

true

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Kazan:

the windows box i would slap it in is a dual booter actually

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Kazan:

so i would just have to install firmware

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Kazan:

afk to pull hardware

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Floppe:

how does mythtv select which language to store from EIT?

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Kazan:

well i have the card pulled

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Kazan:

now to find a coax long enough to connect my other puter to the wall

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Kazan:

fryfrog: i gotta go out and buy a longer coax.... it'll take me a bit because i have to use the bus system here

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wireddd:

Kazan: I would hook you up with one, but I don't think you live anywhere near me

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j-rod:

anyone know of a reliable source of bttv-driven capture cards? (must be bttv, not cx88 or anything else)

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directhex|work:

...why?

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directhex|work:

"1998" is a good answer to the question

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j-rod:

haha

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j-rod:

hoping to be able to reproduce a bug

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j-rod:

http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0603.0/1597.html

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j-rod:

we have the misfortune of having a customer encountering that. :\

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janneg:

j-rod: maybe you should ask in #v4l?

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j-rod:

janneg: oh, duh, good call. I forget about #v4l...

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adante:

man

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adante:

when did the transcode system get so good?

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marenz:

i managed to get my mythtv up and runningwith my analog pvr 150 from hauppauge, only thing i don't understand is: when i do a channel scan in mythtv-setup all channels are found but are called sth like "E5" or "21" but they have the right frequencies, i also have generated a xmltv file via nxtvepg that holds the correct channel names + epg data ... can i combine both so that the properly found channels in mythtv are merged wit

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marenz:

if i import the epg-data from the xml file via mythfilldatabase the channelnames and data is correctly shown but the channel-frequencies aren't correct

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marenz:

^ before doing a channel-scan

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** Kazan waves to fryfrog **

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BULLE:

mmm, fried frog, with fries

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Kazan:

moved my pvr-500 into my main computer

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Kazan:

so i can test it under windows and linux

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Kazan:

one of it's two heads has been having problems

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Kazan:

now.. just to figure out which head i'm using in WinTV

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Kazan:

what's a good application to test pvr-500s under linux?

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beata:

is there any way to tell myth to keep x number of recordings for a particular show?

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Kazan:

yes

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opello:

Kazan: mplayer?

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Kazan:

it's trivially easy to set that in mythweb

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Kazan:

opello: kk

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Dibblah:

Or in the UI.

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opello:

/dev/v4l/video0 and /dev/v4l/video1 iirc

[18:01:48]

beata:

Kazan i dont see any options in the schedule setting, can u point me to the right spot

[18:01:52]

Kazan:

wee no mplayer installed

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Kazan:

beata: you in the UI or mythweb?

[18:02:21]

beata:

mythweb

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beata:

record new and expire old?

[18:02:31]

Kazan:

yes

[18:02:40]

Kazan:

and then right below that is the number to keep

[18:02:57]

beata:

thanks, totaly missed that at first glance

[18:03:12]

Kazan:

opello: if i just mplayer /dev/video0 will that be grapping an mpeg2 encoded stream?

[18:03:24]

opello:

yup

[18:03:27]

Kazan:

kk

[18:03:35]

Kazan:

gotta wait for yum to finish installing mplayer

[18:03:38]

** Kazan grumbles about prefering xine :D **

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opello:

you will probably need to tune it to a channel with that ivtv-tune perl script or something

[18:03:45]

opello:

heh then use xine :p

[18:03:50]

Kazan:

don't have it installed

[18:03:53]

Kazan:

and mplayer installs faster

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opello:

lol

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Kazan:

hmm... i don't have ivtv-tune installed apparently...

[18:04:43]

opello:

it should be in the contrib dir if nothing

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opello:

else

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Kazan:

i didn't have to compile ivtv

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Kazan:

i have a kernel >= 2.6.22

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BULLE:

it might very well be in a separate package

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Kazan:

yeah

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Kazan:

the drivers are included in the kernel now

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opello:

ahh

[18:07:43]

Kazan:

had to download the utils package and compile/install

[18:08:20]

Kazan:

odd i have no sound

[18:08:42]

Kazan:

it's mplayer's problem :P

[18:09:46]

Kazan:

well

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Kazan:

i now know it's not my card

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Kazan:

bcause it appears to be fine

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samIam122:

is there a way of modifying my myth-setup via the command line? I need to change the mythbackend IP but I only have shh access to my myth machine right now

[18:47:25]

samIam122:

ssh that is

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defaultro:

join #xine

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samIam122:

why would I join xine?

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Kazan:

i think he mischanned

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samIam122:

was wondering :)

[18:56:14]

Kazan:

and yes there is

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Kazan:

if you know sql

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samIam122:

That I know :) Which table is it in?

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Kazan:

settings

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Kazan:

select * from `settings` where `value`='BackendServerIP';

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samIam122:

that was easy :)

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Kazan:

then update `settings` set data='newip' where `value`='BackendServerIP' and `hostname`='yourhostname';

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samIam122:

ah mythweb is working again :)

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samIam122:

thanks Kazan

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Kazan:

np

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samIam122:

Now to figure out why xbmcmythtv won't connect to my backend server

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Kazan:

wtf is xbmcmythtv?

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samIam122:

I don't know if that is what it's called but the script for Xbox media centre to interface with Mythtv

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Kazan:

ah

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Kazan:

well.. now i'm going to test missions for the Wing Commander Saga :D

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Kazan:

i'll be in chan if you need more help (<3 having three puters in front of me)

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samIam122:

he he, go enjoy

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defaultro:

hey folks, does ATI card work in linux and mythtv?

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Kazan:

yes

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Kazan:

just no mpeg2 accel

[19:17:39]

defaultro:

wow, that's great news

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defaultro:

even the newer ATI cards?

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Kazan:

yes

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Kazan:

the drivers don't have the required features

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Kazan:

the cards have them, but the drviers don't

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defaultro:

gotcha

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defaultro:

so need good cpu then

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defaultro:

what driver is needed to make it work in linux?

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Kazan:

the ati binary driver.......

[19:19:18]

Kazan:

....

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defaultro:

ok

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defaultro:

thanks

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defaultro:

that means, I should buy a powerful cpu to play hd files

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defaultro:

like what I currently have now

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defaultro:

i mean, my friend should buy a powerful cpu

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defaultro:

it's because he is an ATI fan :P

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Kazan:

i'm an ati fan as well

[19:25:28]

Kazan:

but i use nvidia for my mythbox

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defaultro:

:) why not ATI on myth

[19:25:37]

Kazan:

because the cpu isn't beefy enough for hd so i need the hardware assist

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defaultro:

my friend is asking

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defaultro:

he has tons of ATI cards

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Kazan:

ATI's linux drivers don't have mpeg2 hardware decoding support

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GreyFoxx:

defaultro: ATI isn't currently very well supported unde rLinux

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Kazan:

nVidia's do

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defaultro:

ok

[19:26:07]

Kazan:

(it's called xvmc)

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defaultro:

yep

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GreyFoxx:

they don/t have a history of regular updates, often hard or problematic to get working(with tv out)

[19:26:18]

Kazan:

in the future ATIs drivers may get them as ATI slowly opens the specs

[19:26:22]

defaultro:

what if he has powerful cpu, he should be fine correct

[19:26:28]

Kazan:

what is the cpu

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defaultro:

Pentiium 4

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defaultro:

i don't have all the details

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Kazan:

pentium 4s aren't powerful :P they suck :D

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defaultro:

:P

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Kazan:

those details are important

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defaultro:

yep

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defaultro:

maybe, I should tell him to buy similar as mine

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defaultro:

athlon 64 3000+

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defaultro:

that's old but still very good

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Kazan:

decoding 1920x1088 MPEG2 requires some power

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defaultro:

yes, i see it when I play it

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Kazan:

and if he ever wants to use it for hd dvds or blueray... zomg

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defaultro:

my cpu hits 37%

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Kazan:

my Athlon 64 x2 4200+, 2GB ram, RAdeon X1900XT has problems with x264... on windows

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defaultro:

i tried playing a real hddvd, my cpu went nuts

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defaultro:

oh

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defaultro:

i use mplayer to play 1080p files

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Kazan:

ewwww

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Kazan:

mplayer

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defaultro:

and works well

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** Kazan gags **

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defaultro:

here is one screenshot. Oh greyfoxx, finally got my crt projector

[19:29:05]

Kazan:

hddvd and bluray support three differen't codecs

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defaultro:

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/6469/300fr . . . pclipwq4.jpg

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Kazan:

x264 being one of them... hella compression... hella cpu usage

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defaultro:

that's mythtv calling mplayer to play 300 at 1080p

[19:29:49]

Kazan:

xbox frontend?

[19:29:57]

Kazan:

rip?

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defaultro:

here is another one, http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/930/sylaronheroesrq7.jpg Camera on top of the tubes :)

[19:30:03]

Kazan:

how did you get the data to your box

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defaultro:

that's an apple 1080p clip

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AndyCap:

what kind of projector?

[19:30:30]

defaultro:

then the latter is mythtv recording of Heroes

[19:30:37]

defaultro:

it's a Sony 1272q

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defaultro:

crt projector

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defaultro:

I just got it last sunday

[19:31:00]

defaultro:

drove 3 hours (172miles) south to get it :D

[19:31:18]

defaultro:

the last screenshot, you can see the 3 tubes :D

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reclusivemonke1:

is anyone else having trouble getting listings from XMLTV in the UK? I don't seem to be able to get a response from the radio times website

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AndyCap:

defaultro: hmm been thinking about pursuing that, have had a sucky lcd experience recently. :P

[19:31:31]

defaultro:

man, I love watching now

[19:31:43]

defaultro:

check out my complete thread at avsforum

[19:31:51]

defaultro:

those guy helped me a lot

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defaultro:

and I'm in business only for 3 days

[19:32:11]

defaultro:

this is my thread, http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php . . . 5&page=4

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defaultro:

that's page 4

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defaultro:

kazan, the theme is Projectgrayhem from our very own juski

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defaultro:

AndyCap, i got it for $125

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BULLE:

\o/ juski \o/

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defaultro:

I actually bought the first one 3 weeks ago for $50 but it was dead. The model was 1271q

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Kazan:

blootube is better

[19:34:11]

defaultro:

luckily, both were compatible

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AndyCap:

defaultro: oh, noo. :) carp I fear most of the crt's here either have a good home or are trashed.

[19:34:32]

BULLE:

defaultro: some convergence issues on the picture ?

[19:34:38]

defaultro:

BULLE, yes

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defaultro:

i'm still learning it

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BULLE:

defaultro: how long does it take to get the picture perfect ? i assume it takes some time to fix it ?

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defaultro:

but for 3 days, you don't know what i went through

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defaultro:

:)

[19:35:16]

defaultro:

took me 3 days and I don't have any experience with CRT

[19:35:28]

defaultro:

read the thread i posted, you will see how I started

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defaultro:

:)

[19:35:42]

defaultro:

and the guy named Sonynut was phenomenal

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defaultro:

he told me that wires to remove, what cards to replace, etc

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defaultro:

tonight, we will be watching transformers although DVD only which is 480p but still looks good

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defaultro:

my wife bought it but i ripped it so that it is played by myth :)

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defaultro:

don't have a dvd drive on myth yet

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Kazan:

480p?

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Kazan:

don't you mean 480i

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defaultro:

480i

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defaultro:

you are correct

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Kazan:

ntsc :P

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BULLE:

defaultro: i guess a second hand crt still is the most affordable way to get a high quality projector, but it seems to be LOTS of fiddling around

[19:37:45]

defaultro:

i told my wife not to buy anymore because I am planning to buy an xbox hddvd drive

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BULLE:

guess i will just have to save upp enough dollars so i can buy one of those DILA projectors

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defaultro:

BULLE, yes, i stayed always at 4am for 3 days

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BULLE:

he, i wont buy either hddvd or blueray until either dualformat players become cheap, or one standard wins

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defaultro:

i don't know if what those CRT fanatics is telling the truth. They say that crt is the best color

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AndyCap:

Ah, reminds me. maybe my old workplace have given up their crt projector.

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Kazan:

i'm with BULLE

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defaultro:

AndyCap, go there and pick it up now before someone gets it

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AndyCap:

hello barco.. :P

[19:39:19]

defaultro:

yeah, i want barco too

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BULLE:

but barco went with dlp lately, right ? and perhaps dila ?

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defaultro:

but they are still making CRT from the last news i have seen

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defaultro:

their news started with like these ..."For video philes application, CRT has to stay and we have ....."

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AndyCap:

they still make em. but very few I think

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defaultro:

maybe

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AndyCap:

http://www.barco.com/corporate/en/products/product.asp?GenNr=440 don't dare to think what they cst

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AndyCap:

cost..

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defaultro:

so when they said, "videophiles", i assumed that it's for really high quality presentation

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AndyCap:

you can even do hd.

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AndyCap:

I think some weird visualisation etc.

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defaultro:

AndyCap, I'm doing HD now on my sony 1272

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defaultro:

that heroes is an hd recording

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AndyCap:

defaultro: how much bandwidth can it do?

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BULLE:

defaultro: from what i heard, their 3 dpl 1080p projectors are atleast as good as the crt projects

[19:41:51]

BULLE:

defaultro: but its also a matter of price

[19:41:56]

defaultro:

wow, that's a good news

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AndyCap:

I mean: Compatibility with workstations up to 3,200 by 2,560 pixels. this isn't cheap

[19:42:30]

defaultro:

Andy, I like that Barco model

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defaultro:

really sexy

[19:42:49]

defaultro:

it's got color corrected lens too

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AndyCap:

defaultro: heh, look at the "relevant markets"

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defaultro:

you can get them used at $2500

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AndyCap:

defaultro: that one? really?

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** AndyCap is willing to settle for a lot less projector than that one though **

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AndyCap:

not sure if barco makes the cine9 model

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justifier:

hello, anyone here able to help with a strange problem? on, BBC1, BBC2 and BBC3 it says that the signal is 41% and that it has partial lock but it wont lock on. It is fine locking on to other channels,

[19:45:50]

justifier:

any ideas?

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AndyCap:

uh-oh.. http://cgi.ebay.com/New-2001-Barco-Graphics-8 . . . cmdZViewItem

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AndyCap:

2500+600$ shipping.. hmm

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Nik_Doof:

can myth run inside Xen domU?

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defaultro:

AndyCap, sorry, I just got back

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defaultro:

AndyCap, find a crt locally

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defaultro:

I got mine at craigslist.org

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defaultro:

i was lucky

[20:22:22]

defaultro:

i just bought it for parts only

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Diabolic:

is the blootube-wide theme available thru any repository?

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AndyCap:

defaultro: that's nice in the us. craigslist here isn't very active

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defaultro:

ah

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defaultro:

where are you at?

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AndyCap:

.no

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AndyCap:

looked at the local classifieds online. didn't see anything worthwhile, probably have to ask around

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reclusivemonke1:

$eit

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Dibblah:

justifier: If you didn't get an answer, DVB-t in the UK has a habit of switching around channels.

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Dibblah:

Rescan...

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Dibblah:

Of course, the other option is that your antenna isn't good enough for that specific MUX...

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justifier:

Dibblah, i'm trying a scan now, its strange that its only BBC channels but it works okay on the other TV using the same arial

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Dibblah:

Depends on your area's geography / houses / distance from mast / ... which multiplexes are actually strongest.

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justifier:

yea, were i live (milton keynes) signals currently crap, there working on it, will have it all sorted by.......... 2011. great

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reclusivemonke1:

lol justifier that's when I get digital TV apparently

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justifier:

woot same time!!!

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reclusivemonke1:

I'm thinking of moving to a different postcode ;-)

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justifier:

heh

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Hoxzer:

:)

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Pitchin_uk:

Does anyone know where I can find the xmltv for the uk (i'm running suse 10.3)??

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t0ny-p40:

My mythtv computer is dead :(

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t0ny-p40:

It was working fine last night then this morning it was off, so I turned it on and jumped in the shower then when I got out it was off again and wont power on.

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t0ny-p40:

Does that sound like the power supply or something worse?

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Pitchin_uk:

that doesn't sound good

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t0ny-p40:

Another thing I still get likes on the ethernet jack

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t0ny-p40:

but other then that it seems dead.

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alexp789:

hi all, I was wondering if anyone had had any luck stopping the USB disconnects with a Hauppauge Nova-T 500 PCI card?

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alexp789:

Any help would be much appreciated!

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reclusivemonke1:

Pitchin_uk: I think the RT site is dead ATM

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Pitchin_uk:

d'oh

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Pitchin_uk:

has it been down for long

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reclusivemonke1:

it was okay yesterday. It happens from time to time

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J-e-f-f-A:

alexp789: Nope — don't have one — Is it a known issue, or are you the only one having it?

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** J-e-f-f-A *gripe* — Dish has a free Stars weekend, but it's on the 'preview' channels, which don't have program data, either with SD, or on dish's site, which uses zap2it... Ugh... **

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cesman:

why not manual record, then later edit the metadata?

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J-e-f-f-A:

cesman: I need to know what is on first... I don't have a monitor hooked up to my receivers — they're all on Myth. Although I could use 'live tv' to do it, with the disk remote (slow...)

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J-e-f-f-A:

s/disk/dish/

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J-e-f-f-A:

cesman: Ok, I broke down and brought up the guide in 'livetv' on one of my recievers...

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cesman:

doesn't Stars list what is upcoming no thier website?

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robbins61:

there's a fight on showtime tomorrow night...you think if i call the cable company and get it turned on i can have it turned off sunday?

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** kormoc wonders why robbins61 would ask a bunch of strangers this question rather then the cable company, given the cable company is the only place that would know for sure **

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robbins61:

because i love speculation!

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kormoc:

I speculate it will give you cancer and eat your foot

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Newbuntu2:

hello!

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Newbuntu2:

anyone have experience with the PC TV PenDrive USB Hybrid Tuner

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J-e-f-f-A:

Newbuntu2: No, but if it's got the same chipset as the HVR-950, the driver for it will break the driver for all other tuners in the same box.

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robbins61:

yeah! there's no contractual obligation!

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kormoc:

robbins61, might want to find out if they prorate or not tho

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robbins61:

yeah, it's pro-rated he said

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robbins61:

so it shouldn't cost more than $1 or so for the weekend

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Pitchin_uk:

where can i get the uk xmltv stuff for suse 10.3

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Newbuntu2:

I dont know what the HVasR has, but this driver shows up as trident in windows, and gives me a blue screen of death whenever I turn it on...

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Der_Thomas:

hey, I just re-compiled myth 0.20.2 and now I don't have the 'edit keys' option in setup. Anyone know how to get this back?

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Captain_Murdoch:

Der_Thomas: that is the mythcontrols plugin, so you need that installed as well.

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Der_Thomas:

thanks captain

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t0ny-p40:

why would a psu give a motherboard enough power to light up the ethernet lights so the wol would work but not enought to power it on?

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Der_Thomas:

I don't think tha tI quite understand your q, but it probably takes MUCH more current to spin up HDs and fans etc...

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t0ny-p40:

It does not even try.

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t0ny-p40:

The fan is off on the psu

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Der_Thomas:

right, but are you talking about starting up the mobo?

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t0ny-p40:

There is one smaller capasitor in the psu thats starting to bulge but I don think that that would cause the problem.

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t0ny-p40:

Der_Thomas, Nothing at all happens when I hit the power button.

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t0ny-p40:

I was working last night, and today I woke up it was off, so I turned it back on it booted fine then I took and shower and got out it was off and wont turn on.

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mzb_d800:

t0ny-p40: unplug power and leave for 1 minute

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mzb_d800:

btw: a "bulging" cap is not good

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t0ny-p40:

I know

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t0ny-p40:

buts in the early stages.

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Der_Thomas:

probably a buldging cap means it is already blown

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t0ny-p40:

Barley noticeable.

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t0ny-p40:

its been unplugged for over an hour.

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Der_Thomas:

you are leaking current through it most likley

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Der_Thomas:

maybe this cap is part of the turn on circuit

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t0ny-p40:

I have no money for a new psu

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Der_Thomas:

I'd replace this ASAP you never know what else the death of a PSU will kill

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Der_Thomas:

you might already have killed your mobo etc

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t0ny-p40:

The ethernet is still lighting up and showing activity.

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t0ny-p40:

Like it always does when off.

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Der_Thomas:

well keep your fingers crossed!

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Der_Thomas:

I'd throw out that PSU now and don't try to turn it back on again

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mzb_d800:

is there a websvn browser for mythtv?

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djc_:

anyone know of any micro-atx board that has a recent nvidia onboard video that also has tv-out builtin?

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mzb_d800:

t0ny-p40: test with another psu before you create permanent damage to the rest of your gear (if you haven't already)

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mzb_d800:

if you're keen, I'd suggest carefully examining both sides of the mobo for burnt tracks

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mzb_d800:

anybody playing/played with the shoutcast patch recently?

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t0ny-p40:

I've done that

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t0ny-p40:

Nothing burnt

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mzb_d800:

looks like "delete editDialog;" ends up being inserted in PlaybackBoxMusic::showVolume rather than the end of PlaybackBoxMusic::showEditMetadataDialog

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t0ny-p40:

here is the web snv http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/

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t0ny-p40:

I wonder if I should use my credit card to buy a psu

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mzb_d800:

thanks, but that's just a wiki page describing the svn repo

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mzb_d800:

I was hoping to find a web interface to the repo

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mzb_d800:

(websvn)

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mzb_d800:

dm

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mzb_d800:

I think I've fixed it manually now anyway

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mzb_d800:

cross fingers!

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mzb_d800:

(I *want* shoutcast *badly*;))

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mzb_d800:

shoutcast patch is getting a bit old, so I hoped to find out why the patch inserts the "delete editDialog" in the wrong function

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mzb_d800:

but tbh, as long as it works I probably don't card *that* much ;)

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mzb_d800:

yay! a build!

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t0ny-p40:

I want this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817104953

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